Tampa City Council
Thursday, March 11, 2010
5:01 p.m. Session
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17:02:57 >>THOMAS SCOTT: We will now come to order.
17:02:59 We will have roll call.
17:03:01 [roll call taken]
17:03:09 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Council, we have two memorandums from
17:03:12 -- one from councilman Dingfelder.
17:03:15 Chair Scott, I will be absent from the March 11, 2010
17:03:18 evening session of City Council meeting.
17:03:19 Thank you.
17:03:28 And then the second one is from Councilman Joseph
17:03:31 Please be advised I will not be able to attend the
17:03:36 evening City Council meeting March 11, 2010.
17:03:38 Thank you for the attention that matter.
17:03:41 Goes to the Clerk.
17:03:43 To be placed in the record.
17:03:50 The first order of business we need to hold a public
17:03:51 hearing for items 1 through 7.
17:03:52 >>GWEN MILLER: So moved.
17:03:53 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Second.
17:03:56 >>THOMAS SCOTT: All in favor signify by saying aye.
17:04:00 Item number 1 is the first adoption public hearing,
17:04:02 small scale plan amendment to the Tampa Comprehensive
17:04:12 Mr. Griffin.
17:04:13 >> Good evening, councilmembers.
17:04:15 Tonight you will be completing your transmittal public
17:04:18 hearing on the proposed plan amendments as part of the
17:04:21 August 2009 cycle of amendments.
17:04:23 Tonight is a continuation of the public hearing that
17:04:28 you held on February 25, 2010 in evening council will
17:04:32 hear presentations by staff on five plan amendments,
17:04:34 and then the council will take public comments on these
17:04:40 The applicant shall have a chance to rebut -- rebuttal
17:04:41 opportunity if needed.
17:04:43 At the conclusion of tonight's public hearing, the
17:04:49 council will take final action to transmit these plan
17:04:51 amendments to DCA for their consideration.
17:04:54 These amounts that you heard on February 25 and March
17:04:59 You will also make the adoption of the one small scale
17:05:01 plan amendment this evening.
17:05:04 State statute does provide the opportunity for
17:05:07 interested citizens to receive a courtesy information
17:05:10 statement regarding the DCA's notice of intent, the
17:05:12 notice of intent is the final action from the
17:05:15 Department of Community Affairs has after they review
17:05:19 their -- after a complete review of these plan
17:05:21 amendments proceeds through the process.
17:05:23 Any citizen wishing to receive this information
17:05:25 statement from the Department of Community Affairs
17:05:29 shall provide their name, address on the sign-in sheet
17:05:33 that is located in the lobby.
17:05:38 We will now present the small scale amendment 09-05.
17:05:40 >> Thank you, Mr. Griffin.
17:05:44 Good evening, Council, Jay Collins, Planning Commission
17:05:53 First you on tonight's agenda is Tampa Comprehensive
17:05:59 Plan pa 09-05 in the Rocky Point area the City of
17:06:07 This is a 4.4 acre of a 4.6-acre parent parcel at north
17:06:09 Rocky Point east.
17:06:12 A privately initiated amendment.
17:06:15 The only privately initiated amendment you will hear
17:06:17 The request has been initiated to recognize the
17:06:19 Commercial development that has been occurring at the
17:06:21 site since 1986.
17:06:26 The current category Residential-35 does not permit a
17:06:28 Commercial intensity found at the site.
17:06:31 You will notice that the site is outlined in purple
17:06:34 here, you will also notice the green line that is
17:06:36 running, that is the coastal high hazard area for the
17:06:37 City of Tampa.
17:06:40 This amendment is not located in the coastal high
17:06:45 hazard area for the City of Tampa.
17:06:54 Transportation and land use is linked in the City of
17:06:56 Tampa through the Growth Management strategy.
17:07:00 This is an excerpt from the vision map from the Tampa
17:07:01 Comprehensive Plan.
17:07:04 This is outlining the Westshore district.
17:07:05 Within that district there are notable opportunities
17:07:09 that include improving mobility, supporting business
17:07:12 and industrial development, as well as capitalizing on
17:07:16 regional assets.
17:07:18 Some of the assets you see here include the airport,
17:07:21 but more so for this particular amendment is the
17:07:22 Westshore business center.
17:07:25 There are three business centers in the City of Tampa,
17:07:28 the Westshore being one as well as the downtown where
17:07:31 we are here tonight and the University of South Florida
17:07:40 and its supported uses such as the hospital.
17:07:43 This is the current adopted land use for the area.
17:07:48 You will notice the outline of the site as -- excuse me
17:07:49 as Residential-35.
17:07:54 You will also notice Residential-35 to the north, Post
17:07:57 You will notice Community Mixed Use-35 to the South and
17:07:59 also to the west.
17:08:02 To the South of Courtney Campbell causeway, you will
17:08:06 notice Urban Mixed Use-60 as well as more Community
17:08:07 Mixed Use-35.
17:08:11 The unincorporated community of Dania shores exists
17:08:12 just across the water there.
17:08:20 It has a future land use designation of Residential-6.
17:08:28 This shows the proposed amendment showing the entire
17:08:35 parcel, the 4.4 acres of the 4.6-acre parcel, all of it
17:08:40 being community mixed use 35.
17:08:47 Business centers are identified as areas of major
17:08:49 economic activity.
17:08:51 And they are vital to the city's continued success.
17:08:55 They act as anchors within the central district, the
17:08:57 University district and the Westshore district.
17:08:59 These areas should ensure that spaces for economic
17:09:01 activities are not displayed for residential
17:09:04 development and that residential neighborhoods are not
17:09:09 destabilized by inappropriate Commercial encroachment.
17:09:11 The design and development within business centers
17:09:14 shall promote opportunities to improve mobility,
17:09:19 safety, encourage the construction of workforce house,
17:09:22 promote a mixture of uses and expansion of economic
17:09:28 This is seen in objective 14.2, as well as the policy
17:09:31 supported through a sense of play, mobility, economic
17:09:33 activity and such.
17:09:38 Also objective 18.6 and policy 18.6.1 which deals with
17:09:42 compatibility issues for Commercial neighborhoods.
17:09:45 Mixed use categories offer the many tools to realize
17:09:52 these communities that supports commerce of living with
17:09:54 policies that ensure their development is
17:09:59 The siting of buildings, transition and scales in a
17:10:00 suitable land use.
17:10:04 With that on January 11, Tampa Comprehensive Plan
17:10:08 CPA-0905, request from Residential-35 to Community
17:10:11 Mixed Use-35 was found consistent with the goals,
17:10:13 objectives and policies of the Tampa Comprehensive Plan
17:10:16 building our legacy a livable city.
17:10:19 I thank you for your time, and this concludes my
17:10:23 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Councilwoman Saul-Sena.
17:10:25 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you.
17:10:31 Currently there is no ability for pedestrian or
17:10:34 bicyclist to get around that area at all.
17:10:38 And in fact a pedestrian death that the portion of
17:10:41 Courtney Campbell, and we have been trying -- our
17:10:43 Courtney Campbell scenic corridor committee to make the
17:10:46 area safer for people who aren't in cars.
17:10:48 Currently if you want to go from one side of the street
17:10:51 to the other, you basically have to drive which is
17:10:59 So I want to be assured that what -- you spoke a lot
17:11:02 about this would be Transportation friendly that there
17:11:05 would be consideration given to pedestrian and bicycle
17:11:09 movement as well as just cars.
17:11:11 >> Yes, ma'am, the Tampa Comprehensive Plan does speak
17:11:14 to those exact things that you mentioned with mobility.
17:11:17 Of different sorts of options of uses out there.
17:11:21 We do hope that through a planning his or her rye John
17:11:24 of 2025 we will see increase mobility in this area.
17:11:26 >> I hope we don't have to wait until 2025.
17:11:28 I see a bunch of scouts in the audience.
17:11:31 They will be beyond college and hopefully want to move
17:11:34 back to a place that has different options for them.
17:11:36 I am just really concerned because that area right now
17:11:40 is so pedestrian hostile, and we just got to change it.
17:11:44 >> Yes, ma'am.
17:11:46 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Any other questions of Council.
17:11:47 A public hearing.
17:11:48 Anyone wish to address Council?
17:11:52 Anyone from the public wish to address Council on item
17:11:59 >> Good evening, Councilmembers.
17:12:04 Liz Abernathy represent the owner, the Wilson group.
17:12:07 I want to explain briefly the existing chase suites
17:12:10 hotel is constructed prior to the adoption of the comp
17:12:13 You saw this property a few years back through a PD
17:12:17 There was a group that wanted to come in, redevelop it
17:12:19 for condo high-rise.
17:12:22 They came in, did the rezoning for the condo high-rise.
17:12:26 That group has since gone away.
17:12:29 Current owner wanted to understand, you know, what
17:12:33 other options they might have.
17:12:41 When we explained to them that their future land use
17:12:44 RES-35 would not allow reconstruction of a hotel on
17:12:48 that site, in the event the hotel was destroyed they
17:12:49 could not rebuild that hotel.
17:12:51 The main purpose of this was to recognize that existing
17:12:54 land use, allow them that option to redevelop as a
17:12:58 This property is also governed by a DRI.
17:13:03 It is in the -- excuse me the Rocky Point harbor DRI.
17:13:05 So any development or redevelopment will be governed by
17:13:08 that development order.
17:13:12 So, if, for example, they wanted to increase intensity
17:13:15 on this site, they will have to go through that DRI
17:13:18 process to look at mitigation or through the new system
17:13:23 and potential for mobility fees in the future, there
17:13:26 may be the option to put mitigation toward pedestrian
17:13:30 and bicycle improvements as opposed to roadway
17:13:32 We are going to have those options hopefully in the
17:13:36 So if the property were developed, perhaps some of what
17:13:40 your concerns you have expressed would be addressed.
17:13:43 So I just want to explain that and if anybody had any
17:13:46 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Councilwoman Saul-Sena.
17:13:47 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you.
17:13:49 I know that the Westshore alliance is trying to get the
17:13:52 city to reinterpret how the fees can be spent so it
17:13:56 won't just be for roadways but for transit and
17:13:58 pedestrian or bicycle improvements.
17:13:59 That haven't been accomplished yet.
17:14:02 We are going to rely on the kindness of strangers.
17:14:04 If you can talk to your client and tell them if
17:14:07 somebody takes -- needs to take a bus to their site to
17:14:11 get to work, it is not safe right now to get there.
17:14:14 And they really need to work with the property owners
17:14:18 in front of them to create some safe connections for --
17:14:18 for pedestrians.
17:14:21 It is really -- it is not a good situation right now,
17:14:25 and until we -- we work our rules, which we are working
17:14:29 on, they need to kind of do this because it is the
17:14:32 right thing to do, not because the law requires it.
17:14:34 >> And right now there is no one ready to redevelop
17:14:37 this site.
17:14:41 It's -- the market is not here yet, and they do want to
17:14:43 at least go through this plan amendment, get the
17:14:49 community mixed use so it can be redeveloped as a hotel
17:14:54 or -- or go residential or go office, but any of those
17:14:56 options again they will have to mitigate and -- because
17:15:00 I don't expect it to happen any time soon, hopefully we
17:15:03 will have those mobility options in place when it is
17:15:06 time to develop and we can look at those and suggest
17:15:10 those alternatives to the next owner.
17:15:13 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Councilwoman Mulhern.
17:15:15 >>MARY MULHERN: Yes I don't know if this is for you or
17:15:19 planning or Growth Management people, but bet you can
17:15:20 answer it.
17:15:22 Run down the category of zoning that this future land
17:15:23 use would allow.
17:15:26 What kinds of -- you were just saying like a hotel --
17:15:27 >> Right.
17:15:29 Well right now.
17:15:31 >>MARY MULHERN: -- residential.
17:15:33 >> The zoning is PD and conceivable we could come in
17:15:37 and ask to go back to Euclidian district like cg, but
17:15:40 more likely it will stay a PD over time.
17:15:46 I mean, right now the PD that controls the property is
17:15:48 for 161 condo units.
17:15:50 So that --
17:15:51 >>MARY MULHERN: That will still be --
17:15:53 >> In place.
17:15:55 >>MARY MULHERN: -- if the land use --
17:15:57 >> Nothing can happen on this property other than
17:16:01 development of those 161 condos without it coming back
17:16:03 to you without an amendment --
17:16:05 >>MARY MULHERN: The hotel that is there, it is not
17:16:07 functioning right now?
17:16:09 >> It is operational, it is just older.
17:16:11 176 rooms.
17:16:15 >>MARY MULHERN: Do they rent jet skis from there?
17:16:17 >> I am not -- I don't know the answer to that.
17:16:20 >>MARY MULHERN: I have a friend who lives on pelican
17:16:23 island and she won't leave me alone what I can do about
17:16:26 the jet skis that go flying down their canal.
17:16:30 >> I do know there is another hotel adjacent to it --
17:16:33 >>MARY MULHERN: Somebody is renting them.
17:16:36 >> I don't had think the chase suites does but my
17:16:38 client is not here so I can't verify.
17:16:39 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.
17:16:40 >> Thank you.
17:16:47 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Anyone else from the public?
17:16:49 A motion -- a motion to close the public hearing.
17:16:54 We need to vote to transmit.
17:17:03 >> Somebody is coming up.
17:17:10 >>GWEN MILLER: Move to close.
17:17:11 >> Second.
17:17:14 >>THOMAS SCOTT: All in favor signify by saying aye.
17:17:15 Motion to transmit.
17:17:18 >> This is a small-scale plan amendment.
17:17:21 A first adoption -- first reading for the public
17:17:24 First adoption of public hearing.
17:17:28 >>GWEN MILLER: Mr. Chairman, ordinance for the Tampa
17:17:29 Comprehensive Plan land use map for the property
17:17:33 located in the general vicinity of 3075 North Rocky
17:17:37 Point Drive East from medium density Residential-35,
17:17:41 R-35 to Community Mixed Use-35, CMU-35, provides the
17:17:45 repeal of ordinance and conflicts and provides
17:17:48 severability, provides for effective date.
17:17:51 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Moved and seconded by Councilman
17:17:54 All those in favor.
17:17:57 >> Motions with Caetano and Dingfelder being absent.
17:18:02 The second reading.
17:18:07 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you, item 2.
17:18:13 Mr. Garcia.
17:18:16 >>TONY GARCIA: Mr. Chairman, members of Council, Tony
17:18:17 Garcia, Planning Commission staff.
17:18:20 The first of four that you will hear that will have to
17:18:23 be transmitted to various departments for state and
17:18:24 regional review.
17:18:26 What is going to be before you now -- this is going to
17:18:28 be kind of good because this concept is a very nice
17:18:31 thing for our future citizens back there, the future
17:18:33 voters sitting in the back of the room to look at.
17:18:36 A nice concept for them to look at since they will be a
17:18:39 big part of what we will be talking about right here.
17:18:42 What is before you right now is comp plan amendment
17:18:48 This is a series of objectives and policies with some
17:18:52 design principles and with some things I will be
17:18:58 talking about for the next five minutes or so.
17:19:01 Transit Oriented Development is neighborhood services
17:19:04 within easy walking district of a transit station,
17:19:07 fixed guideway transit that offers local travel
17:19:13 Just to name a couple of the features that you can get
17:19:17 from the benefits of transit oriented development.
17:19:20 It is more sustainable and efficient, provides a rich
17:19:24 mix of housing, jobs and shops, healthier lifestyle,
17:19:27 conserve open space in areas.
17:19:29 Transit Oriented Development also fits in very well
17:19:32 with what's being required in the new requirements of
17:19:33 state law.
17:19:37 I will let you all know as part of our process, we have
17:19:40 taken this already to DCA and met with officials at DCA
17:19:44 who were very supportive of the concept we will be
17:19:47 showing you this evening, and are actually looking
17:19:54 forward to getting all -- our objectives and policies.
17:19:56 What's really exciting about the Transit Oriented
17:19:58 Development and as it relates to the Federal Transit
17:20:03 Administration, the FTA and criteria being used for
17:20:05 consideration of the light rail line that is going
17:20:08 through the City of Tampa is that as you can see here,
17:20:12 land use as of the late part of July according to FTA
17:20:16 will be weighted much greater as far as the criteria
17:20:21 that FTA will be using to determining how to use these
17:20:24 funds Nationally for these types of developments.
17:20:29 With that being known, and with the high-speed rail at
17:20:32 that point in time being on the horizon for potential
17:20:34 funding for our area and the referendum coming up on
17:20:37 the horizon in November, the Planning Commission along
17:20:42 a bunch -- along with HART and long with --
17:20:44 organization created a joint land use working group,
17:20:47 the working group was formed as a collaborative effort
17:20:52 to create a grass-roots effort to get a lot of
17:20:54 different organizations together to really show ideas
17:20:58 and provide input on the concept and benefits of
17:21:08 transit oriented development for our area and region.
17:21:11 This is a short list -- actually a short list of many
17:21:14 of the stakeholders we had involved in this just to
17:21:15 show you a few names there.
17:21:17 Of course we had all the governments involved in our
17:21:18 meetings that we have had.
17:21:22 We had business interests.
17:21:25 We had the downtown partnership, the Westshore
17:21:27 We have had the department of Transportation.
17:21:31 So we have had a variety of different involvement from
17:21:33 a lot of different groups.
17:21:36 There also has been validation done by several
17:21:38 consultants that have been hired not only by the
17:21:41 Planning Commission but by the MPO and HART, validating
17:21:46 potential market identification or station
17:21:47 identification as you can see over here.
17:21:50 There was market analysis that was done on the
17:21:54 potential impacts that would affected as it relates to
17:21:57 economic development, potential station locations, and
17:22:01 interviews that were done with developers both locally
17:22:03 and other states.
17:22:07 We found out from them that they wanted to make sure
17:22:11 there was flexibility within the policies, it would can
17:22:13 market driven, and what is really impressive over here
17:22:16 is the likelihood of development in these prototype
17:22:26 % more likely to occur with transit versus 34 without
17:22:27 rail transit.
17:22:32 >> Would you -- don't say TODs or what it is --
17:22:35 >> It is a mouthful but I will say it, Transit Oriented
17:22:41 I would like to -- let's talk about the TODs.
17:22:43 I will go over the framework very quickly.
17:22:45 I am just going to basically give you the highlights of
17:22:51 The high intensity urban station is seven station --
17:22:54 very quickly I will relate -- the locations I am going
17:22:56 to tell you are not etched in stone.
17:23:00 It is just like in theory where they will fit in.
17:23:04 For sure it would be someplace downtown.
17:23:10 The urban area is near the location for the high-speed
17:23:13 rail and located where the primary central economic
17:23:15 exists downtown.
17:23:17 >>MARY MULHERN: At the train station?
17:23:21 >>TONY GARCIA: No, I think that is too far away.
17:23:25 I think that is too far.
17:23:28 High intensity urban station, only one of those and
17:23:32 most likely be located in the cd.
17:23:36 A good location of this would be like in the Westshore
17:23:40 district which is a high office, entertainment and job
17:23:43 As you can see this type of location would be in a
17:23:45 regional, shopping, office center and will consistent
17:23:48 in meeting the high density residential uses.
17:23:50 You will have a mix of office, retail residential,
17:23:56 Commercial, and entertainment similar to public uses.
17:23:57 Community centers.
17:24:00 A variety of community centers where you will have a
17:24:01 community center what we have here and also
17:24:03 neighborhood centers stationed.
17:24:04 So we have a variety of locations.
17:24:09 We have a lot of where we are looking at the rail lines
17:24:11 coming through according to what alternative analysis
17:24:15 is showing right now, goes through four CRA areas.
17:24:18 We are looking at west Tampa, we are looking at East
17:24:21 Tampa, downtown, which is a CRA, a piece of the channel
17:24:23 district which is a CRA.
17:24:28 A variety of CRA locations which actually these lines
17:24:32 can potentially go through.
17:24:35 Employment center stations which also -- not only be
17:24:40 Westshore but potentially be the USF area, which are
17:24:43 also big employment centers and parking lot special
17:24:46 I think obviously we can see something like this will
17:24:49 be in close proximity to the airport or at the airport
17:24:53 or maybe a major regional mall.
17:24:57 I am going to go over the three steps which really are
17:24:59 the meat of the policies that are before you this
17:25:03 Because really most of the discussion we had -- when
17:25:06 you see the packet in this plan amendment, you will see
17:25:10 that we will adopt -- we really got tons of feedback
17:25:14 from the entities that were stakeholders from FDOT,
17:25:16 from citizen neighborhood group, from the Westshore
17:25:20 alliance, from -- from all the different municipalities
17:25:23 especially -- I must say the City of Tampa staff has
17:25:26 been very wonderful in meeting with us on a variety of
17:25:31 times providing a lot of input, constructive input, and
17:25:34 I think they share our enthusiasms for what TOD is
17:25:36 going to bring to our community and to our region.
17:25:41 Anyway, let me go into real quickly the three steps.
17:25:44 The loading transit development overlay.
17:25:46 This is basically a floating overlay that will land
17:25:49 into an area once the station is identified generally.
17:25:51 This general location of about approximately half a
17:25:55 mile is going to be identified as an area of influence.
17:25:59 Once that area of influence is identified, this is
17:26:01 where TOD is going to be focused, Transit Oriented
17:26:03 Development is going to be focused.
17:26:06 The planned boundary also be determined -- what we will
17:26:08 take into account will be a circle to start off with,
17:26:11 but then mold into something that is much more specific
17:26:15 and we take into account the fiscal and environmental
17:26:17 community boundaries and all the existing environment
17:26:18 that surrounds it.
17:26:21 So a lot of conditions that are going to help form
17:26:24 exactly what -- how big this location is going to be or
17:26:27 how small it is going to be as far as what is going to
17:26:30 develop around these specific locations.
17:26:33 Once the location boundaries are determined, the
17:26:35 specific boundaries will be brought back to this body
17:26:38 and will be noted and adopted as far as specific
17:26:43 As you can see over here, when we complete and adopt
17:26:46 the stationary plan, the plans will be completed by the
17:26:47 entities involved.
17:26:49 It will be the city, the Planning Commission will have
17:26:52 probably the local transit agency involved in it.
17:26:55 I will have a couple of other entities that will be
17:26:58 determined by interlocal agreement as you will see
17:27:02 The plans can be funded by private as well as public.
17:27:05 Private-public partnerships are one of the best ways
17:27:07 for economic development to move forward in many of the
17:27:12 cities we review that have light rail currently or
17:27:16 fixed transit as most often referred to.
17:27:18 The City Council as I said before will review and
17:27:21 approve the plan in the area-wide rezoning that will
17:27:23 follow the actual establishment of the specific
17:27:27 These are just some of the components to deal with land
17:27:30 use, design, the actual overall policies and the
17:27:32 implementation strategies.
17:27:36 The design principles as they relate to land use speak
17:27:38 to the variety of housing and mix of uses, market
17:27:41 analysis that I talked to you about to validate the
17:27:43 economic validity of having something in that area and
17:27:47 the jobs it can potentially be created by that and
17:27:49 density and intensity that could be developed in those
17:27:52 areas whether it be more residential and whether that
17:27:53 be more Commercial.
17:27:55 Also connectivity which is very important.
17:27:57 It has got to be a walkable environment.
17:27:59 Got to be something that connects very well to the
17:28:02 arterial and collector roads to offer other types of
17:28:05 uses such as bus rapid transit, as well as pedestrian
17:28:08 and other options.
17:28:10 And, of course, community design.
17:28:12 We are going to want it to, of course, be attractive,
17:28:16 to have a nice streetscape, to provide public spaces
17:28:20 and programming.
17:28:22 So based on all the information that we have and a lot
17:28:25 of supported policies that we already have currently in
17:28:28 the plan, we are basically strengthening what we have
17:28:33 in the current plan and the typologies and only
17:28:35 scratched the surfaces on them and provides a
17:28:38 significant bolster what we currently from in the
17:28:39 comprehensive plan.
17:28:41 We are very excited about it and feel this is something
17:28:43 that will be transformational for our city and for our
17:28:46 region if we are able to move forward with this.
17:28:51 The Planning Commission staff finds this proposed
17:28:53 request consistent to the comprehensive plan.
17:28:54 Thank you.
17:28:57 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Councilwoman Mulhern and Councilwoman
17:29:02 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
17:29:06 Was Flynn Council involved in all the meetings you had?
17:29:11 >>TONY GARCIA: Well, we provided a workshop to you.
17:29:12 You have city staff here.
17:29:15 We had a workshop with you about a month ago.
17:29:18 >>MARY MULHERN: Right, kind of very broad.
17:29:21 >>TONY GARCIA: That has been open and we sent E-Mails
17:29:26 of anyone to be able to come to our workshops over the
17:29:27 last six months.
17:29:28 We did not have any Councilmembers personally attend
17:29:30 any of our meetings.
17:29:32 >>MARY MULHERN: I just wondered because this big
17:29:36 transmittal did come -- it came to us a while ago and I
17:29:38 didn't realize it because no one called me to offer to
17:29:43 talk about it, but I think that is unfortunate since
17:29:46 this is all policy we are talking about tonight that
17:29:51 none of us have been involved in -- in the very
17:29:54 specific things that are in here.
17:30:00 So I think I am totally in favor of the concept.
17:30:02 Totally, absolutely.
17:30:08 But what we are talking about here is some major, major
17:30:14 changes and I guess one of my questions is the other
17:30:16 cities that you looked at as models or you consulted
17:30:24 with, did they have floating --
17:30:26 >>TONY GARCIA: Yes, our floating concept -- the
17:30:27 floating concept we are talking about is something
17:30:30 actually kind of out of the box and something that has
17:30:33 really been embraced by all of the entities that I
17:30:35 talked to you about already that were on our land use
17:30:36 working group.
17:30:38 >>MARY MULHERN: You are saying it has been embraced
17:30:41 but has anybody employed it.
17:30:43 >>TONY GARCIA: Not in this matter.
17:30:44 >>MARY MULHERN: Before -- okay.
17:30:48 >>TONY GARCIA: We have spoken to DCA as I told you
17:30:51 before and as far as is it doable or -- something we
17:30:54 can bring and be implemented, no one that we talked to
17:30:58 so far, okay, in any of the reviewing agencies feel
17:31:02 this is not something that is -- that is not
17:31:07 To speak to that also, the administrator for the city
17:31:10 and Mr. Moreda and miss Miller has been involved
17:31:14 intimately throughout all these discussions, and I
17:31:18 think can attest to the support to what we have been
17:31:21 >>MARY MULHERN: But as you say it is out of the box.
17:31:24 And that was -- I want to see if other places have used
17:31:32 So that kind of raises some more questions for me.
17:31:37 We have floating land use categories and then -- that
17:31:40 half-mile circle kind of scares me too, because it is
17:31:43 really nice to see the pictures of cities that have
17:31:49 transit stations, but having lived in one for a long
17:31:54 time and also having traveled a lot, what you show as
17:31:58 surrounding the station is the street that those
17:32:00 stations are on.
17:32:01 >>TONY GARCIA: Right.
17:32:03 >>MARY MULHERN: As you go half a mile beyond those
17:32:06 streets, it is usually residential.
17:32:07 >>TONY GARCIA: Right.
17:32:10 >>MARY MULHERN: One, two, maybe three.
17:32:13 We have got some, you know, -- downtown is different,
17:32:15 but as you get out into the neighborhood.
17:32:18 So about half a mile, I just wondered --
17:32:19 >>TONY GARCIA: Half a mile is the standard that is
17:32:22 used because it is a walkable distance, all right.
17:32:25 Approximately 10 to 15 minutes predicated on, I guess,
17:32:26 how quick you are able to walk.
17:32:34 Now in addition to that, the urban principle,
17:32:37 principles as far as new town development, part of
17:32:39 smart book principles.
17:32:41 In addition to that, you are -- you are going to use a
17:32:44 half a mile that is basically going to be used as an
17:32:49 area of influence to basically analyze.
17:32:51 It is not going to initially be a half mile.
17:32:53 We will look a half mile out and say, is it -- is
17:32:56 development actually going to go out a half mile.
17:33:00 In some case it is may and in some cases may go out an
17:33:01 8th of a mile.
17:33:03 If you look at some of the planning -- as part of the
17:33:08 subsequent codified in some cities, the code in how it
17:33:09 is going to be written because we are not talking about
17:33:10 code yet.
17:33:12 Code will be written to reflect what the existing
17:33:16 environment is.
17:33:17 The development potential.
17:33:19 The existing environment.
17:33:23 There are seven station typologies and we say a
17:33:25 neighborhood station which will be sensitive to if you
17:33:27 have established residential neighborhood so -- mull
17:33:30 million I looked at some of those numbers and they were
17:33:38 worrisome already up to eight stories or something.
17:33:40 These questions are glancing through here the questions
17:33:41 I have.
17:33:45 So I think when -- you know when we are done with this
17:33:49 hearing, I am going to propose that we need some major
17:33:54 workshops with Council and the public to really look at
17:33:57 this before we are going to -- I am going to be ready
17:34:00 to adopt this.
17:34:04 I mean that -- not before we transmit it necessarily,
17:34:10 but when it comes back, I think this is -- this is
17:34:15 major stuff, especially when you are saying "floating."
17:34:17 Because we don't know what we are talking about.
17:34:21 We don't know where we are talking about.
17:34:23 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Councilwoman Saul-Sena.
17:34:27 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you.
17:34:31 This is second to the idea of form-based zoning, this
17:34:34 is, like, the most innovative thing we have done and I
17:34:37 am really excited about it and it isn't completely new,
17:34:41 because 10 years ago Bill Boothe at -- came us to with
17:34:44 this and $300 million in Federal monies that seemed
17:34:47 like it would be there for us to do a transit system
17:34:49 and developed an entire program about Transit Oriented
17:34:54 I actually raised private noun have a breakfast to
17:34:56 discuss it with the community and the public, so I
17:35:00 have to say I am happy that it is finally back here
17:35:01 before us.
17:35:03 >>TONY GARCIA: Miss Saul-Sena, I did the research on
17:35:04 that ten years ago.
17:35:06 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: You remember in our collective use.
17:35:10 >>TONY GARCIA: I worked on that.
17:35:12 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: The more public comment the better
17:35:15 but I move for public transmittal.
17:35:18 And the concept of splitting overlay district is like
17:35:18 land use Sci-Fi.
17:35:21 No, I think what you are talking about is customizing
17:35:27 the district parameters into very specific location.
17:35:28 I think that is what you are saying.
17:35:35 That it won't be amorphousing, it will be detailed and
17:35:38 customized from where the station locations end up.
17:35:38 >> Correct.
17:35:41 An entire process -- public hearing process and there
17:35:44 will be workshops and discussion --
17:35:46 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Perhaps you should use different
17:35:50 verbiage because perhaps saying "custom" is better than
17:35:52 "floating" or something like that.
17:35:54 I think that is what your intent is.
17:35:58 >>TONY GARCIA: The reason we are using "floating" in a
17:36:01 designation as far as the district because the stations
17:36:04 have not been established yet so you have to have it
17:36:05 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Right.
17:36:07 >>TONY GARCIA: Once the stations have been determined,
17:36:10 this area drops -- the area drops, and then starts to
17:36:13 take a life of its own, and then it changes from the
17:36:16 circle to something that is not going to be any greater
17:36:17 than that.
17:36:20 Will probably be much smaller than predicated in what
17:36:23 the existing conditions are going to be.
17:36:26 Meetings with all the property owners that are around
17:36:29 there, all the development potentials.
17:36:32 And the FARs and the scales you are looking at and
17:36:33 stories that are there.
17:36:35 You have to understand those are maximums that are
17:36:38 Nothing that will develop to that.
17:36:39 >>MARY MULHERN: I know, Tony.
17:36:41 I know how it works.
17:36:41 >>TONY GARCIA: Okay.
17:36:43 >>MARY MULHERN: I understand that.
17:36:46 I have to be the devil's advocate here because this
17:36:50 hasn't been used as far as I know in other cities, or
17:36:54 you don't know where the track is going, where it is
17:36:57 planned to go, and, you know, I would even feel
17:37:01 differently if I hadn't been to a MPO meeting where
17:37:08 David told me and I had no ideas that at least three
17:37:11 different alignments that they are looking at for the
17:37:12 north-South line.
17:37:14 So we don't know if it is going to be going through,
17:37:17 you know, areas that are dense, areas where there is
17:37:21 nothing there, which may be fine there is half a mile
17:37:22 around it.
17:37:28 So my problem with this is that it is not -- I don't --
17:37:30 I haven't had enough time to look at it and really
17:37:35 understand what we are talking about, but also, that I
17:37:37 am not sure that this is the way that we should adopt
17:37:39 land use policy, you know.
17:37:44 The future -- the Future Land Use Map, and the -- these
17:37:46 categories are going to be floating.
17:37:49 And we have never even had this category before.
17:37:54 He thinks it is a fantastic category to have, but I
17:37:59 think it would make sense to change our land use plan
17:38:04 based on when we have more certainty about where the
17:38:07 lines are going to go.
17:38:08 >>TONY GARCIA: Correct.
17:38:12 That is what this is following.
17:38:17 >>MARY MULHERN: Your -- I am sorry.
17:38:20 I mean, we are going to have to -- you are asking us to
17:38:24 adopt this concept --
17:38:25 >>TONY GARCIA: Concept.
17:38:27 >>MARY MULHERN: Right, it is not a concept, it is --
17:38:33 it is a land use category.
17:38:37 A developer can come in and -- what stops a developer
17:38:40 from getting -- coming in and asking for zoning
17:38:44 somewhere where there actually will turn out not to be
17:38:46 a rail for one thing.
17:38:49 >>TONY GARCIA: That's not -- if you have an area that
17:38:52 is determined where you have a location determined,
17:38:55 that is the only place where this is going to drop.
17:38:57 It is not going to be something citywide.
17:39:00 It has got to be something that is going to drop.
17:39:02 Ground zero will be the station location.
17:39:03 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.
17:39:05 Well, I can't -- I don't know.
17:39:09 I am -- I don't want to necessarily stop the whole
17:39:16 process here and I won't be able to obviously but I
17:39:19 want to bring these issues up and -- I am going to need
17:39:21 -- we are going to need to have a lot more explanation
17:39:23 before this.
17:39:27 I am -- I am not comfortable with it.
17:39:29 >> In terms of a transmittal public hearing, this has
17:39:32 to go to the Department of Community Affairs to allow
17:39:34 them to review it and timeline.
17:39:36 When do you think this will be coming back for a first
17:39:40 >> Randy, Land Development cooperation.
17:39:44 To answer that question, it will probably be about 60
17:39:46 days probably.
17:39:49 They have an expedited review process so things move
17:39:50 much quicker.
17:39:53 >>MARY MULHERN: So we have time to have a workshop.
17:39:55 >> Yes, and I will say the city staff --
17:39:58 >>THOMAS SCOTT: But we had a workshop on this.
17:40:00 Isn't we have an hour workshop on this.
17:40:02 >>MARY MULHERN: A powerpoint presentation.
17:40:04 For me that is not a workshop.
17:40:06 >>THOMAS SCOTT: A dialogue where you had an
17:40:07 opportunity to raise questions, same presentation
17:40:09 pretty much.
17:40:10 But anyway --
17:40:12 >>MARY MULHERN: I don't remember the word "floating"
17:40:14 or half a mile, but --
17:40:17 >> If I may, the city staff has been working with the
17:40:19 Planning Commission staff throughout the entire
17:40:22 And one of the reasons why the package is so thick as
17:40:24 you can see, there has been a tremendous amount of
17:40:27 comments from various members throughout the process.
17:40:30 We had some of the same questions the Planning
17:40:32 Commission staff about how the floating overlay would
17:40:36 work and how -- what would happen in the interim.
17:40:41 We feel confident that if it meets the test of state
17:40:44 law in terms of being a valid land use tool, that we
17:40:46 think we can go along with it and support it.
17:40:49 We also work with the Planning Commission staff to make
17:40:52 sure that certain controls were placed in the policies,
17:40:56 that being that once the station is set, that all the
17:41:00 overlay district -- floating overlay does is set a
17:41:01 planning boundary.
17:41:06 At that point, once it gets set, a stationary plan must
17:41:08 be produced and City Council must approve that plan.
17:41:13 That is where the actual specific land use density and
17:41:20 intensities get set.
17:41:21 >>MARY MULHERN: Come and find this consistent.
17:41:25 This is the train leaving the station right now.
17:41:27 >> If they tell us it is consistent, we are going to be
17:41:28 producing the plan.
17:41:30 And we are going to determine what that -- what those
17:41:33 densities should be in that area and working with the
17:41:35 >>MARY MULHERN: Right.
17:41:38 >> They call for a community very much like what is
17:41:40 being done with the form-based code now.
17:41:43 So it will be -- it will be a -- a much more
17:41:47 city-driven initiative to set what happens around those
17:41:50 That is when you can determine whether it will be one
17:41:53 block, two blocks, four blocks from the station in
17:41:54 terms of the development pattern and what happens in
17:41:56 the rest of the area.
17:41:59 Also, in here, there is doctor when you factor -- the
17:42:01 question about --
17:42:03 >>MARY MULHERN: Right, but let me say this, I am not
17:42:05 comfortable with that at all -- that policy you are
17:42:07 saying right now.
17:42:09 That you can go to four blocks from a certain area.
17:42:12 That that's going to be discretionary.
17:42:15 Whoever sitting here may not be any of us or maybe just
17:42:18 me, the one that might not vote for this.
17:42:20 >> It will be City Council.
17:42:21 >>MARY MULHERN: Right.
17:42:23 >> Whatever City Council is setting which, again, is
17:42:25 past, present or future.
17:42:27 It is City Council acting on behalf the people and in
17:42:28 concert with the people.
17:42:29 >>MARY MULHERN: I know.
17:42:30 I know.
17:42:34 And there is a lot of issues on the ballot in November.
17:42:38 And one of them is about more public input in land use
17:42:43 So I think it is quite important that we don't just --
17:42:45 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Well, tonight is for transmittal and
17:42:48 it comes back in, what, 60 days.
17:42:50 >> Right, roughly 6 to days.
17:42:52 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Well, let's hear from the public and
17:42:52 then --
17:42:54 >>MARY MULHERN: Let me just ask one more question
17:42:55 about the schedule.
17:42:58 So 60 day -- say we get it back in 60 days and then
17:42:59 goes back to the Planning Commission?
17:43:02 >> No, comes back here for adoption.
17:43:04 >>MARY MULHERN: Back to us here to adopt?
17:43:05 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Public hearing.
17:43:09 Anyone wish to address Council on item 2?
17:43:11 Anyone wishing to speak on item 2.
17:43:12 >>GWEN MILLER: Move to close.
17:43:12 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Second.
17:43:16 >>THOMAS SCOTT: All those in favor signify by saying
17:43:18 A motion to transmit.
17:43:24 Do we have an ordinance.
17:43:27 >>GWEN MILLER: Move for transmittal.
17:43:29 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Second.
17:43:31 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Moved and seconded.
17:43:33 >> Motion carried with Dingfelder and Caetano being
17:43:36 absent --
17:43:43 >>THOMAS SCOTT: I don't think -- well, maybe if we can
17:43:49 have someone -- if we can have someone --
17:43:52 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Can you go get him.
17:43:57 >>THOMAS SCOTT: He is in the back.
17:44:00 Okay, item 3.
17:44:08 Maybe staff can come up now and begin that process.
17:44:08 >> Planning Commission staff.
17:44:13 This next agenda item is a plan amendment CPA-0909
17:44:17 pertaining to the Courtney Campbell Causeway scenic
17:44:21 A City of Tampa initiated text amendment.
17:44:23 It is a regular amendment requiring the Department of
17:44:26 Community Affairs review.
17:44:31 And -- and 2005, this body, the City Council, approved
17:44:35 a comprehensive plan amendment which included the
17:44:37 Courtney Campbell Causeway as a potential scenic
17:44:42 corridor at that time having statewide significance.
17:44:44 Subsequently, the Florida department of Transportation
17:44:47 did designate the Courtney Campbell as a scenic
17:44:50 highway, the 14th in the state and the first in
17:44:51 Hillsborough County.
17:44:54 In order to implement the State of Florida scenic
17:44:59 highway corridor management plan for the causeway,
17:45:02 objectives -- one objective and nine policies are
17:45:05 proposed to be incorporated into the comprehensive
17:45:11 And these policies, the objectives and policies relate
17:45:14 to and suggest to preserve and enhance for the City of
17:45:19 Tampa's residents, the National recreation scenic and
17:45:24 historic resources of the Courtney Campbell Causeway.
17:45:26 Again the purpose of this particular plan amendment
17:45:28 promotes public and private agencies to work together
17:45:31 to develop the recreational opportunities for citizens
17:45:35 of Florida, to support efforts to increase the
17:45:38 opportunity for residents and tourists, to have unique
17:45:44 outdoor experiences and promotes unique nature of the
17:45:44 Courtney Campbell Causeway.
17:45:47 This plan amendment was reviewed by the Planning
17:45:50 Commission on January 11.
17:45:56 And at that time, they found it was consistent with the
17:45:57 goals, objectives and policies of the comprehensive
17:46:01 plan to recognize and promote the city's assets, to
17:46:03 preserve an appropriate open space system for the
17:46:06 public's health, safety and welfare, and assure
17:46:09 retention of the aesthetic and environmental amenities
17:46:10 that the Courtney Campbell Causeway afforded.
17:46:13 The proposed plan amendment provides the opportunity to
17:46:16 foster and improve mobility and sustainability for the
17:46:17 community at large.
17:46:19 That concludes my presentation.
17:46:23 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Mr. Chairman.
17:46:27 I worked for five years from a group from Pinellas and
17:46:30 Hillsborough to get this designated as a scenic
17:46:33 I couldn't believe it took that long, but the state had
17:46:35 a form that was that thick and we did it.
17:46:37 This just recognizes it.
17:46:44 And it is a Pinellas, Hillsborough cooperative gesture
17:46:47 and working on getting a path some day all the way
17:46:51 So far we have FDOT they will build a 12-foot
17:46:56 multipurpose trail past Ben Davis beach and beyond.
17:46:58 The tough part is the bridge.
17:46:59 That will take longer.
17:47:00 I would like to move it if I can.
17:47:03 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Let's take public comment -- before we
17:47:05 do that let's go back to number 2.
17:47:09 A motion on the floor made by Councilwoman Miller and
17:47:12 seconded by Councilwoman Saul-Sena to transmit number
17:47:15 All in favor signify by saying aye.
17:47:18 >>MARY MULHERN: Nay.
17:47:22 >> Motion carried with Mulhern vote nothing and Caetano
17:47:25 and Dingfelder being absent.
17:47:27 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Item 3 we had the presentation.
17:47:29 Public comment at this time.
17:47:33 Anyone from the public wish to address Council?
17:47:33 Come forward.
17:47:35 >>GWEN MILLER: Move to close.
17:47:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Second.
17:47:40 >>THOMAS SCOTT: All in favor signify by saying aye.
17:47:42 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I would like to move to transmit
17:47:43 this --
17:47:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Second.
17:47:47 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: -- to DCA.
17:47:49 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Moved and seconded by Councilman
17:47:53 Those in favor signify by eyeing aye.
17:47:55 >> Motion carried with Caetano and Dingfelder being
17:48:02 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you.
17:48:05 >> Good evening, Council, Stephen Griffin, Planning
17:48:06 Commission staff.
17:48:08 This evening we will be presenting to you comprehensive
17:48:10 plan amendment 09-10.
17:48:12 This is the map amendment to your Future Land Use Map
17:48:16 for the central park area.
17:48:19 On January 11 the Planning Commission staff found this
17:48:21 request consistent with the Tampa Comprehensive Plan
17:48:26 for its consistency with that plan.
17:48:28 Our presentation this evening will be demonstrating why
17:48:31 the Planning Commission did find this plan amendment
17:48:33 consistent with the comprehensive plan.
17:48:38 This amendment is about the resurrection of the central
17:48:42 park area, and an ongoing planning effort by the City
17:48:45 of Tampa to rejuvenate the urban neighborhood with a
17:48:47 very rich and vibrant history.
17:48:51 Before you this evening on the slide here shows the
17:48:54 central park community redevelopment area.
17:48:57 As you know, the City of Tampa has made a commitment to
17:49:00 redevelopment of its urban neighborhoods.
17:49:03 Especially those that are in very close proximity to
17:49:04 the Central Business District.
17:49:09 The City of Tampa is actively pursuing the creation of
17:49:12 community redevelopment areas to facilitate
17:49:15 redevelopment that allows strategic investment made
17:49:20 through the utilization of the increment financing.
17:49:22 The central park community redevelopment area is
17:49:27 located in between two other CRAs, the downtown CRA
17:49:30 that lies to the South of this, this direction here.
17:49:34 And the Ybor City CRA that lies to the east of this
17:49:38 area over here.
17:49:41 The channel district's CRA also lies to the southeast
17:49:45 along with the East Tampa CRA that lies to the
17:49:49 northeast of this area.
17:49:56 The red star on this slide indicates the plan amendment
17:49:58 site and gives you perspective with regards to where it
17:50:00 is in the City of Tampa and the other map amendments
17:50:07 that are part of this plan amendment cycle.
17:50:15 The photograph that you see is an area known as "the
17:50:19 Historically known -- given the name because of the
17:50:20 condition of the land.
17:50:24 Around the late 1800s, the scrub began as a settlement
17:50:26 for the African-American lumber millworkers and it
17:50:29 became a vibrant African-American community with
17:50:34 businesses located along Central Avenue at its heart.
17:50:38 The area had its own newspaper, schools, churches,
17:50:42 social organizations and culture in photograph shows
17:50:45 the scrub looking north from Cass Street.
17:50:47 This is where the central park housing development is
17:50:53 located and now the site of the encore project, and I
17:50:54 will give you a view of that.
17:51:00 That is the old central park housing development.
17:51:03 It is cleared right now and that's where the encore
17:51:06 project will be located.
17:51:09 The scrub and the surrounding central park neighborhood
17:51:14 was a community where social institutions support could
17:51:19 be found for residents that often face discriminatory
17:51:22 practices throughout Tampa.
17:51:25 Central Avenue in many aspects was a product of its
17:51:27 A neighborhood that was developed as a result of
17:51:32 implied and imposed segregation which left the
17:51:34 African-American community in the position of
17:51:36 developing their own businesses and institutions.
17:51:41 Central Avenue served as economic, cultural and heart
17:51:43 of the African-American community.
17:51:45 African-Americans owned businesses there.
17:51:48 Such notables included the central life insurance
17:51:52 company located in the now building occupied by the
17:51:54 community center, the Florida Sentinel, as well as
17:51:59 countless restaurants, night clubs, shops.
17:52:06 Also there was the Apollo ballroom located formally at
17:52:10 central and Harrison and a famous stop along the
17:52:16 chitman circuit and made a name for itself being the
17:52:19 popular entertainment venue for some of the most
17:52:23 popular entertainers, James brown, Cab Calloway, Ray
17:52:31 Charles, Ella Fitzgerald, King and Adelaide.
17:52:34 Central park redevelopment plan was developed in 2006.
17:52:37 The purpose was to provide a strategy to eliminate the
17:52:40 conditions of blight, achieve an economically
17:52:45 sustainable level of redevelopment, and restore a safe
17:52:47 and pleasant living condition for the area residents,
17:52:50 visitors and the business community.
17:52:53 This plan focused on leveraging the positive impacts of
17:52:58 public sector initiatives done by the Tampa housing
17:53:00 authorities, improving the Transportation system,
17:53:04 replacing infrastructure, and improving the quality of
17:53:09 This plan was intended to facilitate the marketplace
17:53:12 for the area to have flexibility in responding to the
17:53:12 changing market conditions.
17:53:16 A major concept of this plan is to protect and improve
17:53:20 the community assets in this area while encouraging new
17:53:23 higher density mixed use, residential office, and
17:53:28 Commercial development.
17:53:32 The request is to change the Future Land Use Map on
17:53:35 about 41 aches in the central park community
17:53:36 redevelopment area.
17:53:39 This was initiated by the City of Tampa economic and
17:53:41 urban development department to recognize those
17:53:43 recommendations that came out of the central park
17:53:47 community redevelopment area plan and this plan again
17:53:51 is to enhance the land use classification for that area
17:53:53 setting the foundation for the plan to achieve the
17:53:56 objectives which will include attracting private sector
17:54:00 investments, encouraging new high-density mixed use
17:54:03 development, connecting this area to the larger urban
17:54:06 fabric, and improving the infrastructure, safety and
17:54:11 aesthetics of this area.
17:54:14 The effect of this plan amendment will provide a land
17:54:16 use classification that will set the framework to
17:54:21 respond to the conditions for redevelopment activity,
17:54:24 the Urban Mixed Use 60 classification is the
17:54:27 appropriate land use classification that will fast they
17:54:41 are type of redevelopment activity.
17:54:44 Got out of sequence here.
17:54:48 No worries.
17:54:51 The central park area, again, has a rich and vibrant
17:54:57 It's an area that has faced many challenges over the
17:55:02 It has a history of change in urban form, development
17:55:08 patterns, both economic and cultural and relates to the
17:55:10 realities of a separate and prosperous African-American
17:55:17 enclave which still evokes many emotions, inspirations
17:55:20 to the larger Tampa community.
17:55:25 Your comprehensive plan has some planning contexts that
17:55:27 we looked at.
17:55:33 The plan has five areas called "districts."
17:55:35 The central park area is one of those districts and
17:55:39 also speaks to a neighborhood that is the microcosm of
17:55:40 the larger community.
17:55:43 Your plan speaks to growing economic prosperity and
17:55:46 creating a vibrant downtown which is the primary
17:55:47 business center for this region.
17:55:49 With regard to the Growth Management strategy that
17:55:53 provides the insight to how Tampa is going to grow in
17:55:59 the future, the plan articulates its processes speaking
17:56:03 to urban villages, business centers and mixed use
17:56:04 corridor villages.
17:56:08 In the context of this plan amendment, strategy one
17:56:10 dealt with districts.
17:56:13 The central park is a district and is the hub for this
17:56:20 area's economic, governmental, and cultural center.
17:56:23 The map before you shows the central park district
17:56:26 outlined in the heavy dark green line.
17:56:34 This area here is the site of the plan amendment.
17:56:38 Central park district has various opportunities that
17:56:41 can be taken advantage of.
17:56:45 As far as improving the mobility, attracting private
17:56:47 investment, maintaining historical character of this
17:56:50 area, providing the needed infrastructure that will
17:56:52 foster redevelopment and maintaining stable
17:57:02 single-family neighborhoods that enhance the district.
17:57:07 The plan amendment promotes is neighborhood.
17:57:10 Again central park is an area that will receive growth
17:57:17 over the planning period of this comprehensive plan.
17:57:19 Employment by proactively directing growth into
17:57:22 suitable areas primarily central park.
17:57:26 This area is that one the city has deemed appropriate
17:57:29 through the infrastructure improvements and mixed use
17:57:33 Two more strategies that this plan amendment promotes
17:57:39 is maintaining a vibrant central downtown.
17:57:43 The ongoing development efforts in downtown Tampa do
17:57:46 provide opportunity for the central park areas to make
17:57:48 changes in this land use classification that will
17:57:52 foster redevelopment activity by being in close
17:57:53 proximity downtown.
17:57:58 Also, there is opportunity to provide for redevelopment
17:58:02 and revitalization activities that will foster economic
17:58:10 The aerial before you outlines here and shows the area
17:58:15 of the proposed plan amendment change.
17:58:20 This is your current Future Land Use Map outlined in
17:58:25 black showing what the current land use classifications
17:58:25 are for the area.
17:58:27 To the north you have the Residential-83.
17:58:31 In the center there is the Community Mixed Use-35, to
17:58:35 the west is the Central Business District.
17:58:38 And the east along Nebraska Avenue is the Regional
17:58:47 Mixed Use 100.
17:58:50 The map shows the land use change with this plan
17:58:53 Will go to Community Mixed Use-35 and to the west you
17:59:01 will have the Recreation Open Space several agencies
17:59:03 did review this plan amendment request including the
17:59:06 City of Tampa, the school board, environmental of
17:59:08 protection commission, the metropolitan planning
17:59:11 organization and the Hillsborough area regional transit
17:59:17 All of these agencies reviewed the request and found it
17:59:24 consistent and did not propose any objections or
17:59:25 significant comments to the request.
17:59:28 A couple of major planning issues that Planning
17:59:31 Commission looked at and analysis of this plan
17:59:35 amendment was the mobility and increasing choice of
17:59:38 mobility options that will foster mixed use
17:59:43 This plan amendment is bordered by Nebraska Avenue and
17:59:48 is one of the areas that the HART has chosen as a bus
17:59:51 rapid transit to increase mobility options for the
17:59:52 residents of this area.
17:59:55 It is also in the city's Transportation concurrency
17:59:57 exception area.
18:00:03 That area is to propose and accommodate traffic for
18:00:09 transit, bicycle, and pedestrian activities.
18:00:13 The Tampa area is in need of improvement necessary to
18:00:16 foster infill and redevelopment activities, and this
18:00:19 proposed map amendment will provide an appropriate land
18:00:21 use classification that will react to the market's
18:00:24 conditions for redevelopment that will bring the
18:00:28 development activity necessary for improved
18:00:35 Finally two goals that this plan amendment does promote
18:00:42 as part of your comprehensive plan, 15 speaks to
18:00:43 memorable places.
18:00:46 The central park area is again identified that has a
18:00:49 great opportunity to transform and create
18:00:52 Transportation corridors that will intensify and
18:00:56 provide mobility options.
18:01:01 Along with creating new housing and job opportunities.
18:01:03 Another goal is the mixed use corridor concept,
18:01:04 transforming places.
18:01:09 Again this plan amendment site is located along
18:01:13 Nebraska Avenue a designated mixed use corridor and the
18:01:15 map will provide for redevelopment activity that will
18:01:24 Therefore on January 11 the Planning Commission made a
18:01:27 recommendation to find a plan amendment request,
18:01:30 comprehensive plan amendment 0910 consistent with the
18:01:33 City of Tampa goals, objectives and policies of their
18:01:36 Tampa Comprehensive Plan building our legacy a livable
18:01:39 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Questions by Council?
18:01:44 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Well-done.
18:01:44 >> Thank you.
18:01:46 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Public comment.
18:01:55 Anyone from the public?
18:02:07 >> Good evening.
18:02:14 >>GWEN MILLER: Go ahead.
18:02:16 >> I am pastor Williams.
18:02:17 Scott street.
18:02:18 I am in the heart of central park.
18:02:26 And I got this here notification that -- that the
18:02:30 subject on the map, property contact for the
18:02:34 neighborhood association within 250 feet.
18:02:37 Able to understand what was going on about this, but I
18:02:40 am here to let you all know -- and I hope you give me
18:02:43 more than three minutes because it is going to take a
18:02:44 little time.
18:02:49 The church was erected there in 1902.
18:02:53 The City Council designated it as a historical
18:02:57 I went along with him because the idea they say they
18:03:01 were giving funds to build it up, fix it up, straighten
18:03:05 it up.
18:03:09 The project had been torn down since 2006.
18:03:12 Is that right?
18:03:15 Torn down in 2006?
18:03:19 Yeah, I think it was 2006, yeah.
18:03:26 And nobody had come to me questioning my livelihood.
18:03:27 Livelihood at the church.
18:03:30 Nobody had compensated me or came to me and said
18:03:34 Not one word.
18:03:35 I am on a property there.
18:03:38 This young lady, she's got property there.
18:03:46 Took her livelihood away from her.
18:03:48 At the GTE over there.
18:03:52 They gave GTE everything they wanted and some for what
18:03:53 they did.
18:03:57 Let me tell you this -- I see you y'all talking when I
18:03:59 am trying to explain something to you as if they are
18:04:00 ignoring me.
18:04:02 You see what I am talking about.
18:04:03 That's what it is all about.
18:04:10 Scott, you seem to be ignoring me.
18:04:14 I tell ya, the way you all treat us in central park.
18:04:17 Central park just as you said is called the scrub.
18:04:20 I lived in the scrub.
18:04:25 And when they came and housing, I lived in the housing
18:04:30 And that was a pretty decent neighborhood at that time
18:04:33 early, early years of it.
18:04:37 I can't -- I am the one that came here and told you
18:04:40 y'all needed money because it was a cesspool.
18:04:43 And by me coming here and saying you all needed the
18:04:48 money that put that section over there and a cesspool,
18:04:51 then y'all mistreated me.
18:04:52 I got this church here.
18:04:55 Church has been erected since 1902.
18:04:57 I am trying to keep it up.
18:04:59 You all designated.
18:05:03 You understand what I am saying, you all designated as
18:05:05 a historic landmark.
18:05:07 Nobody contacted me or put no plaque or anything up
18:05:11 The thing about it what you are harassing me about, you
18:05:13 put the fence right on the right-of-way where I
18:05:19 couldn't have a through street.
18:05:20 Had a service the other night.
18:05:24 I put 13 Klu Klux Klan cops came by there and told us
18:05:27 we -- told us we didn't have no business having that
18:05:33 outdoor -- nowhere from the -- y'all have destroyed my
18:05:38 Y'all have destroyed my members and seems like you are
18:05:40 all comfortable with that and sit up there and act like
18:05:42 you are comfortable with it.
18:05:44 I got a letter and I don't think you all wants this
18:05:46 letter to get to the public.
18:05:52 I will give it to every church -- y'all are mistreating
18:05:55 the church and I am not going to sit by and let you
18:05:59 mistreat me or nobody else, my members or nobody else.
18:06:02 I want Miss Ann to come up here and say what she got to
18:06:04 say since you all limited me to three minutes.
18:06:06 I told you that wasn't enough time, but I got
18:06:14 >> Good evening, my name is Angela Williams, and I have
18:06:18 a place of business at 22 South street.
18:06:21 I have notified your offices, Mr. Scott, miss Gwen
18:06:25 Miller, and I also spoke with Pam Iorio, and when they
18:06:29 tore down central park, it took my livelihood away from
18:06:33 me and I had a hard struggle to maintain the taxes on
18:06:37 And then they vandalized my building, and I had to work
18:06:39 two jobs to try to bring it back.
18:06:43 I had to recently sell some property in order to pay my
18:06:46 property taxes, and I had went all around trying to
18:06:49 find out if there was some type of grant that I could
18:06:53 receive to -- for a small business owner in order to
18:06:56 maintain, but it was nothing that I was able to
18:07:01 accomplish, and I called everybody that I could, and
18:07:05 miss Pam Iorio told me that what happened to me was not
18:07:10 voluntary, it was involuntary.
18:07:14 She told me to call Mr. Michael Hatcher and when I
18:07:16 spoke with Mr. Hatcher, Mr. Hatcher told me he was not
18:07:19 interested in it and whatever they put across street
18:07:22 from me, my place would be a sore thumb to the area.
18:07:26 But I lost everything I had behind that.
18:07:29 I just recently, as a matter of fact, February 25, sold
18:07:33 my property in order to pay my property taxes in order
18:07:34 to maintain.
18:07:36 So if there is anything that the city or Council they
18:07:42 can do something to help me, to conversate, I had a
18:07:45 very low offer, but I tried to accept, you know, just
18:07:48 so I won't lose anything.
18:07:49 Thank you all so very much.
18:07:52 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you.
18:07:54 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Hold up Mr. Williams, I will come back
18:07:55 to you.
18:07:57 Anyone else from the public?
18:08:01 Your three minutes is up, but let me just -- let me
18:08:02 just respond for a second.
18:08:05 First of all, City Council has no jurisdiction over the
18:08:06 central park.
18:08:08 That is under the housing authority.
18:08:16 Mr. Jerome Ryans in the housing authority oversees that
18:08:17 property that's there.
18:08:19 It is my understanding and I can only relate what I
18:08:21 have been told, my understanding that you were
18:08:24 approached by the housing authority, and that you
18:08:27 wanted to put your property in excess of over a million
18:08:31 plus dollars and they were not in position to offer
18:08:35 Probably beyond the market value of that property.
18:08:38 If that is the case, I suggest you -- that you go back
18:08:40 to the housing authority and have that discussion with
18:08:42 Mr. Ryan.
18:08:45 This Council has no authority over central park in
18:08:51 terms of the housing that was -- that was torn down and
18:08:53 what has been -- been erected there now.
18:08:56 That is totally -- the only thing that this Council has
18:08:59 in its purview was the TIF.
18:09:04 The county commission and this board created a CRA,
18:09:08 community redevelopment area and the TIF dollars in the
18:09:11 area that are used to help build the infrastructure
18:09:17 there in -- in central park now.
18:09:19 One of the big issues that I discussed when this was
18:09:22 going on was the existing businesses.
18:09:25 Unfortunately when the housing project was demolished
18:09:29 and torn down, your business because of those residents
18:09:33 moving out, than that will affect all of the businesses
18:09:35 that were in that area, your business and other
18:09:37 businesses suffered because of that.
18:09:41 Mr. Michael Hatcher is the manager for that CRA.
18:09:44 He is the purpose that you should -- you know you have
18:09:46 to discuss that with.
18:09:48 And at that point, it moves from there to I think the
18:09:50 mayor, is that right?
18:09:50 The mayor.
18:09:55 And then eventually comes back to City Council once --
18:09:58 if there is an offer made for your property, it then
18:10:01 comes back to City Council if the city was interested
18:10:06 in purchasing it, okay.
18:10:08 I would suggest that you go back to Mr. Hatcher and see
18:10:09 what opportunity.
18:10:12 I do know they set up the star program.
18:10:16 We awarded somebody today $50,000 grant somewhere -- I
18:10:16 can't remember.
18:10:18 So you can have a discussion about getting a grant in
18:10:22 terms of trying to improve your property and your
18:10:22 business there.
18:10:26 So I would suggest that to you.
18:10:29 Mr. Mark Huey, Mr. Michael hatcher who is the manager.
18:10:31 If you have any problems, call my office and we will
18:10:33 help guide you and get you in the right direction.
18:10:36 >> Let me make this comment because you say something
18:10:41 that is -- the school board had purchased the property.
18:10:44 If they would have had it appraised, they were purchase
18:10:47 -- I had a contract with them.
18:10:50 They told me they couldn't buy because the idea is to
18:10:54 designate a historical land ma mark.
18:10:58 Who designate a historical landmark, the City Council.
18:11:01 So that kept me from -- kept them from approaching it.
18:11:05 And I had other people that wanted to buy it too.
18:11:06 Not only the school board.
18:11:08 But you need to look into it.
18:11:10 And let me know, because I need to know something and I
18:11:11 need to know something quick.
18:11:15 My insurance on that building is almost $10,000 a year.
18:11:18 I am not able to pay it.
18:11:19 >> Okay.
18:11:21 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay, thank you.
18:11:23 >>MARY MULHERN: I just wanted to say to both of you,
18:11:27 to not just talk to Michael Hatcher, but go to the
18:11:29 central park CRA meetings.
18:11:31 I don't know if you -- there is a community Advisory
18:11:34 Committee, and you can go to that and talk to the
18:11:39 It might be helpful if you haven't done that already.
18:11:42 >> I have been to that -- we don't get no results --
18:11:43 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay.
18:11:45 >> That's why we are here.
18:11:46 >> Thank you.
18:11:47 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you very much.
18:11:48 Anyone else from the public?
18:11:50 Okay, motion to close.
18:11:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: So moved.
18:11:53 >>MARY MULHERN: Second.
18:11:57 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Favor signify by sighing aye.
18:11:57 A motion.
18:12:01 All in favor signify by saying eye, opposes.
18:12:03 >> Motion carries with Caetano and Dingfelder being
18:12:06 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Yes, go ahead.
18:12:08 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you Mr. Chairman, I just -- I
18:12:15 wanted to recognize troop 53 from South Tampa Boy
18:12:18 Scouts who meet at the Palma Ceia United Methodist
18:12:23 They are here tonight with scout leader Wayne Garcia.
18:12:25 And I think -- I don't know if he is trying to recruit
18:12:30 them to be political reporters or he may be just trying
18:12:33 to convince them not to go into government, but thanks
18:12:36 for coming tonight and sitting through this.
18:12:40 This is what we do, and congratulations.
18:12:46 I think do you deserve a badge or a medal or whatever
18:12:52 you got.
18:12:54 >>THOMAS SCOTT: You deserve something sitting through
18:12:55 all this.
18:13:02 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay, take up the last -- what I would
18:13:05 like to do is take up item 5 and move down to -- to the
18:13:09 public hearing for the CDBG.
18:13:14 If we can expedite item 5 if you can not take 20
18:13:17 minutes, he would appreciate that.
18:13:17 >> Planning Commission staff.
18:13:24 This next amendment 09-11 is a map amendment in South
18:13:30 It is a parcel of land approximately 40 acres in size.
18:13:33 It is the City of Tampa initiated amendment.
18:13:37 The request is to change the planned area which is
18:13:41 approximately 48 acres in size, and it is located South
18:13:45 of Interbay Boulevard, west of MacDill Avenue, east of
18:13:49 Holmes avenue, and north of west Napoleon,
18:13:52 approximately a quarter mile north of MacDill air force
18:13:56 This site was acquired by the City of Tampa with funds
18:13:59 from the Hillsborough County environmental land
18:14:03 acquisition and protection program, as well as the
18:14:06 Florida communities trust acquisition program.
18:14:11 And as a requirement of acquisition with this grant
18:14:15 money, the request was to change to the most restricted
18:14:19 land use category for the condition.
18:14:22 The request is to change the current designation of
18:14:25 Residential-6 and Residential-20 to recreation and open
18:14:28 So that is the primary purpose.
18:14:31 And it will reduce the development potential of that
18:14:35 site from maximum potential would be about 330
18:14:37 residential dwelling units and this will be removed.
18:14:41 The Planning Commission heard this on January 11.
18:14:46 And they -- the findings are with consistency with the
18:14:48 comprehensive plan in that this amendment will
18:14:51 strengthen Tampa's diverse neighborhood, maintain the
18:14:54 neighborhood's stability, recognizes and promotes city
18:14:58 assets, it preserves an appropriate open space system
18:15:02 for the public health, safety and welfare and
18:15:05 aesthetics and environmental amenities.
18:15:06 That concludes my presentation.
18:15:09 Tom Johnson with the City of Tampa is here in case you
18:15:11 have any questions regarding this particular site.
18:15:14 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Councilwoman -- anyone from the public
18:15:17 wish to address Council?
18:15:18 From the public?
18:15:20 All right, moved and seconded.
18:15:27 All in fire signify by saying aye.
18:15:30 >> Motion carried with Caetano and Dingfelder being
18:15:34 >>THOMAS SCOTT: It is my understanding on items 6 and
18:15:37 7 that we already heard and pretty much we need to see
18:15:40 if there is any additional public comment and move for
18:15:45 Item 6 and 7.
18:15:50 Anyone here to address Council on 6 -- 6 being file
18:15:53 number e 2010-47.
18:15:57 And 7 being file number pa 09-08.
18:15:58 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Mr. Chairman.
18:16:01 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Yes.
18:16:03 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Let's ask the people from Seminole
18:16:05 Heights who worked so hard on this to stand up and be
18:16:08 recognized because they put so many hours.
18:16:11 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Are they there.
18:16:12 >> Kathryn Coyle --
18:16:13 >> Two.
18:16:15 We had the lengthy public hearing.
18:16:22 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay.
18:16:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Move to close.
18:16:25 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Second.
18:16:28 >>THOMAS SCOTT: All in favor signify by saying aye.
18:16:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Move to transmit 6 and 7.
18:16:32 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Yes.
18:16:34 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I have to say it is to perfunctory
18:16:39 after years of meetings and hundreds of evening chewing
18:16:42 on this and tweaking it, it is finally there.
18:16:43 Just congratulations, everyone.
18:16:46 This will be completely transformative in our -- in our
18:16:51 redevelopment of these Commercial.
18:16:52 Thank you.
18:16:54 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Congratulations to Seminole height for
18:16:55 your hard work.
18:16:59 Moved by Councilman Miranda and seconded by
18:17:01 Councilwoman Mulhern.
18:17:02 Items 6 and 7.
18:17:03 Say aye.
18:17:07 >> Motion carried with Caetano and Dingfelder being
18:17:10 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay.
18:17:11 Item 8 is a public hearing.
18:17:12 A motion to open.
18:17:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: So moved.
18:17:15 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Second.
18:17:18 >>THOMAS SCOTT: All in favor signify by saying aye.
18:17:20 We have miss west.
18:17:20 Sharon west.
18:17:24 Whoever is going to make the presentation.
18:17:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Sharon, you changed a lot.
18:17:39 >> Good evening, Council, revenue and finance
18:17:44 A very brief presentation before Mr. Rotor will get up
18:17:47 here and address the Council.
18:17:50 Do I have that presentation on screen?
18:17:52 Thank you.
18:17:56 I wanted to go over the purpose of this meeting.
18:17:57 Just very briefly.
18:18:00 As you can see from your handout, the information
18:18:05 concerning the CDBG 36 entitlement, the emergency
18:18:08 shelter grant, the home investment partnerships, and
18:18:15 housing opportunities for persons with A.I.D.S. And
18:18:17 present the types of activities previously undertaken,
18:18:22 the anticipated level of funding, range of eligibility
18:18:25 activities and other requirements.
18:18:29 And importantly, obtain the views and comments of
18:18:31 citizens and any other persons who would like to be
18:18:35 heard regarding this issue.
18:18:37 Talking real quick about the funding you see before you
18:18:38 our current year amounts.
18:18:46 We anticipate the fiscal year '11 amount to be
18:18:47 relatively the same.
18:18:51 A quick review of the calendar, you see some of these
18:18:53 items have already taken place.
18:18:56 A technical assistance workshop and deadlines for both
18:19:01 CDBG and home have already passed and the next item is
18:19:02 tonight the public hearing.
18:19:05 Proposals and reviews and recommendations through may.
18:19:09 And additional public hearing in June.
18:19:14 City Council approval action plan and the fiscal year
18:19:18 beginning for 2011.
18:19:23 The RFP, request for proposal process has taken place
18:19:26 and advertised on the city's TV channel.
18:19:30 As I mentioned technical assistance workshop was held
18:19:35 and held and recorded and replayed on the city's TV.
18:19:39 Approximately 30 individuals participated in the work
18:19:42 shops, evaluations have always provided very valuable
18:19:48 feedback and deadlines we already referenced and
18:19:54 mid-March time frame and evaluations next month.
18:19:57 The public hearing tonight as I mentioned needs a
18:19:59 recommendation to forward it no later than the next
18:20:03 Initial responses and the second public hearing in
18:20:07 If you have any questions, ladies and gentlemen, I or
18:20:10 some of the many subject matter experts here can answer
18:20:17 If you do not, I will turn it over to Mr. Rotor.
18:20:23 >> Good evening, members of Council.
18:20:24 Frank rotor.
18:20:29 I live at 908 east Louisiana avenue.
18:20:31 The city developmental block grant Advisory Committee
18:20:35 was very busy this year, and we actually had ten
18:20:39 requests, a little bit more than we usually do and we
18:20:41 got carried away and excited about some of them.
18:20:44 The first someone a continuation last year dealt with
18:20:46 the homeless outreach, and what we are proposing that
18:20:50 the homeless coalition work with the neighborhood
18:20:55 community centers and University resource in west Tampa
18:20:59 to help develop them into basically kitchens for the
18:21:02 homeless, to be able to come in and to get meals, also
18:21:08 be allowed to get services, case management, health and
18:21:11 substance abuse treatment, education, vocational
18:21:14 training, job placement assistance, health services,
18:21:15 and also laundry facilities.
18:21:18 We feel this will be very, very useful for our homeless
18:21:22 population, and we are urging Council to go along with
18:21:22 us on that.
18:21:25 Our second request deals with the drainage ditches that
18:21:28 are located throughout the City of Tampa, and we really
18:21:29 had some concerns about that.
18:21:32 In fact our first thing was we wanted them all covered
18:21:35 over and we realized that was prohibitively expensive
18:21:37 and could not be accomplished.
18:21:41 However, we would like to see the drainage ditches get
18:21:41 cleaned out.
18:21:43 We found out that many of them are clogged.
18:21:46 They are not functioning the way they are supposed to,
18:21:49 and if we can have a citywide cleaning of the drainage
18:21:51 ditches we feel that would be very beneficial.
18:21:54 Our third request deals with traffic calming, and what
18:21:58 we are asking for that is, again, concern about our
18:22:04 reputation as far as pedestrian safety or lack of.
18:22:08 Support funding traffic calming measures which will
18:22:10 have a big impact on pedestrian safety.
18:22:15 Pedestrian activity is not a major factor in
18:22:17 determining if a site is eligible for traffic calming.
18:22:21 We believe that variables sidewalks and proximity to
18:22:24 parks schools and other community attractors will be
18:22:24 key ranking factors.
18:22:28 We believe this will be readily achieved by adapting a
18:22:32 similar mythology of what sites are necessary for
18:22:34 traffic calming in sidewalks.
18:22:35 And kind of move in that direction.
18:22:38 We also would like to have public works include newer
18:22:41 traffic calming technologies such as solar powered
18:22:45 speed displays because they can be very effective in
18:22:46 the neighborhoods that have them.
18:22:49 Number four, we realize there was not money for this;
18:22:51 however, we really believe this is very beneficial
18:22:53 community activity.
18:22:55 And this would be the potties in the park.
18:22:58 Basically in conjunction with the fire department and
18:23:00 the police department, we are asking for funding to
18:23:03 have two of these parks.
18:23:06 I talked to Shannon Edge earlier and no money available
18:23:08 in her apartment and looking for donation notice
18:23:11 community and looking for ways to have it because we
18:23:14 feel they are very beneficial activities.
18:23:17 Kids benefit from it, families benefit from it and a
18:23:20 unified force for all neighborhoods.
18:23:22 Number 5 is kind of a new one for us.
18:23:25 Basically we want to do some education about how code
18:23:27 enforcement works.
18:23:31 The department of code enforcement would like to work
18:23:34 with our public media, and to let our residents know
18:23:37 about code enforcement, how it works, what happens.
18:23:39 Very often the only time somebody knows about code
18:23:43 enforcement is when they are in violation and they
18:23:46 weren't aware that they were in violation until they
18:23:49 receive the notice and would like a public awareness
18:23:52 campaign so people will not end up going before code
18:23:53 enforcement for a problem.
18:23:56 Public information education can change the way code
18:23:57 enforcement operates.
18:24:00 Education can reduce the number of complaints, allowing
18:24:04 inspectors to be more proactive and reducing overall
18:24:06 costs and operating expenses.
18:24:11 We know that access to mass media is not cheap, but the
18:24:13 savings and the positive effects on public relations
18:24:15 could be great.
18:24:19 To go along with that, number 6, implementation of
18:24:20 foreclosed property registry.
18:24:23 Basically we are asking for a position to be funded to
18:24:26 manage the vacant properties of foreclosed homes.
18:24:29 Responsibilities, monitoring the overgrown conditions
18:24:33 of grass and weeds, protecting swimming pools, public
18:24:37 health hazards, dead landscaping, wear and tear and
18:24:40 vandalism that may occur as the houses are vacant.
18:24:42 Number 7 is connecting communities.
18:24:45 And at this time, I am going to ask Jennifer Willman to
18:24:46 come up here.
18:24:48 She has more experience of how to explain that whole
18:24:51 thing and I will turn it over to her.
18:24:53 >> Thank you, good evening, Jennifer willman, area 2
18:24:57 representative on the CDBG Advisory Committee.
18:25:04 Item 7 is a funding request that builds on the SDAT
18:25:08 grant, the sustainable design assessment team.
18:25:12 And if you recall it occurred a couple of years ago and
18:25:15 concluded recently, but was a partnership between the
18:25:17 urban charettes, the City of Tampa, the Planning
18:25:19 Commission and others, and the purpose was to connect
18:25:24 Tampa and to find new ways to empower the residents and
18:25:28 improve the planning process by engaging them and being
18:25:30 -- finding ways to have them be more actively involved
18:25:32 in improving their communities.
18:25:37 So this request is to do that in a way that is -- will
18:25:40 allow for group conversations, neighborhood
18:25:45 conversations to occur, and that is done a way of
18:25:48 workshops and using this technique called the world
18:25:52 And it is important for there to be an outside
18:25:55 facilitator to do these workshops because then the
18:26:02 communities know that it is not, you know, impartial in
18:26:06 any way, a very independent process that is theirs to
18:26:08 go through.
18:26:10 These workshops -- it is a cost associated with it
18:26:12 obviously because it is a trained professional
18:26:15 facilitator that will conduct them which is a critical
18:26:16 component to this.
18:26:19 A two-part workshop where the first part will to be let
18:26:21 the citizens -- the residents of either one
18:26:23 neighborhood or a group of neighborhoods come together
18:26:26 to identify what their needs are, what the issues or
18:26:29 concerns are at that community, what they want to work
18:26:35 on, and at the second workshop, there would be talk
18:26:38 about how to implement and create a road map to -- to
18:26:41 address those needs.
18:26:46 And so the -- so this -- this is a request to allow the
18:26:50 neighborhood to -- to create a void, to -- to improve
18:26:54 the neighborhood planning process and we hope that you
18:26:54 consider that.
18:27:00 Thank you.
18:27:01 >> Number 8, asking for the Hillsborough Avenue
18:27:07 Basically Hillsborough Avenue is a major corridor --
18:27:09 east-west corridor in the City of Tampa.
18:27:11 Many people drive through it to the Seminole hard rock
18:27:14 And Hillsborough Avenue is not very attractive,
18:27:17 particularly from Nebraska Avenue east.
18:27:22 What we are asking for CDBG dollars used to landscape
18:27:23 east Hillsborough Avenue in partnership with the
18:27:26 Florida department of Transportation and basically by
18:27:29 landscaping we feel this will further encourage
18:27:30 development of the businesses along Hillsborough Avenue
18:27:35 and severely neglected and overdue.
18:27:39 They did put in a -- concrete median that has no life
18:27:40 to it.
18:27:42 It is kind of boring, ugly.
18:27:46 Number 9 is our anti-littering initiative.
18:27:48 We are pleased to say this has been going on very well.
18:27:50 We have worked very closely with clean city division
18:27:55 and Jim Pickney and we are asking again for $35,000 for
18:27:57 another 50 trash containers.
18:27:58 Previously four years ago when we started this
18:28:01 initiative, no traffic containers anywhere in the City
18:28:03 of Tampa and now we have lots of them in many of the
18:28:04 major streets.
18:28:06 So we are seeing, you know, the positive effects on
18:28:11 So we are asking again for another 50 trash cans.
18:28:15 Cost of $700 per receptacle.
18:28:19 And have them placed strategically throughout the city.
18:28:21 The last request has to deal with the citywide
18:28:23 recycling campaign and neighborhood and community
18:28:25 relations is working very closely to get this
18:28:28 information out with solid waste.
18:28:30 We are asking to continue that campaign.
18:28:33 Also to have neighborhood and community relations to
18:28:36 continue working with the school system to encourage
18:28:46 them to re155,000 trays and recycling newspapers.
18:28:49 We have gone a long way going from nowhere to where
18:28:51 they are now but room to go.
18:28:54 Our committee met four times during the course of the
18:28:58 year and the list before you -- number one have a
18:29:01 homeless -- last one which is the recycling initiative.
18:29:04 So that's it for that and we are not going to go to
18:29:05 area requests.
18:29:10 First one is area one.
18:29:14 Area two.
18:29:18 >> Good evening, again, Jennifer Wellman.
18:29:21 I first wanted to add two new requests that came --
18:29:25 came to me from the historic Ybor neighborhood civic
18:29:28 association and I would like for these to be added to
18:29:30 the request package.
18:29:33 And these are the thing that had been requested last
18:29:36 year that were not funded.
18:29:38 Number one is financial support for retail business
18:29:42 incubator project in Ybor City to help small home-based
18:29:45 businesses to expand into a brick and mortar
18:29:50 Incubator will provide low rent and on-site spaces with
18:29:53 technical assistance, the second request that is new is
18:29:57 curbing and sidewalks on third avenue between 22nd
18:29:59 street and 12th street.
18:30:03 And just to recap what is in the package from -- these
18:30:06 are all located within Palmetto beach.
18:30:11 Number -- the first item is the seawall from McKay bay.
18:30:16 The -- the seawall is in great disrepair -- disrepair.
18:30:20 Design work has been done.
18:30:24 There is studying for the design work and that has been
18:30:26 done but construction funds from needed.
18:30:29 So we are requesting this once again.
18:30:32 It has been requested for several years now, and we
18:30:34 would hope that community development block grant
18:30:37 dollars could help fund the seawall which goes along
18:30:41 Bermuda boulevard and along Desoto park.
18:30:44 If the seawall fails, that means the boulevard will
18:30:47 crumble into the water, and rather than deal with that,
18:30:50 it would be easier to fix the seawall that is there
18:30:54 Number two, our sidewalks on 26th street.
18:30:57 Gaps between Clark and long street and this is an
18:31:02 important area because it connects us to the Ikea
18:31:05 store, Desoto elementary school is there and bus route
18:31:07 46 run along 26th street.
18:31:11 Number three, our trash receptacles on Bermuda
18:31:17 boulevard which is our water front from Lindsey street.
18:31:20 Number four, we are asking for funding to improve
18:31:23 building facades along our main street, which is 22nd
18:31:29 Number 5 is a request again for funding to have a
18:31:32 community plan and form-based code and design
18:31:37 The last -- last year I requested this and was told
18:31:40 that -- that they would -- it is prioritized and based
18:31:44 on need and I feel that our neighborhood is in great
18:31:46 need of this because we are almost ready to be
18:31:51 designated a historic district and I feel like we are
18:31:55 you know, with need to plan to know when rezonings come
18:31:57 up how do we deal with it.
18:31:59 Number 6 is noise control.
18:32:06 Somehow a program to impose stricter standards for cars
18:32:07 driving on our street.
18:32:12 Number 7 is adult literacy and English clashes held in
18:32:15 Palmetto beach neighborhood and number 8 requesting
18:32:17 gateways for our neighborhood which is on -- the
18:32:23 gateway to be on Adamo Drive on 21st, 22nd street and
18:32:27 I notice that this spending package was not part of the
18:32:30 agenda package online, and I thought it should be, so I
18:32:33 wanted to request that it at least be posted somewhere
18:32:34 on the city's web site.
18:32:39 Thank you.
18:32:42 >> Area 33 I would like to request southeast Seminole
18:32:47 One simple request that deals with present Bill we have
18:32:49 called the capital loan center.
18:32:51 The capital loan center is very, very small that can
18:32:53 accommodate 20, 25 people.
18:32:58 It has been there since the early 40s.
18:33:01 Severely lacking in needs not only for neighborhood
18:33:04 association but the City of Tampa parks department that
18:33:08 operates a program there after school.
18:33:10 When the green planning initiative and it was selected
18:33:14 as the first recipient, everything has been done and it
18:33:15 is looking great.
18:33:17 The land was put aside for a separate building to be
18:33:19 built there for a neighborhood civic center.
18:33:22 We asked for this request the last five years and we
18:33:24 are hoping this is the year we can get it.
18:33:28 Anybody else from area 3.
18:33:32 Area 4.
18:33:36 Area 5.
18:33:40 >> Members of Council, Wesley Wisenberger representing
18:33:45 district 5.
18:33:47 Proposals in there, but two more I would like to add to
18:33:49 it if you don't mind.
18:33:54 One is the park that is on Armenia.
18:33:56 No facilities for any use.
18:33:58 People who are elderly are in that area.
18:34:01 Any time they need to use that park to walk their dog,
18:34:06 do any exercise or any potties or anything there, they
18:34:10 have to bring in the portable potties for that.
18:34:14 Really useless for an older person to be walking from
18:34:19 our area to the park and not to be able to enjoy it
18:34:21 without some comfort facilities there.
18:34:24 If there is any funding anywheres or planning for the
18:34:29 future, I wish that area would be noted.
18:34:33 The second thing is --
18:34:36 >>MARY MULHERN: What park, Armenia and what.
18:34:38 >> Armenia, Delia Park.
18:34:40 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay, --
18:34:41 >> A beautiful area.
18:34:43 >>MARY MULHERN: I know what it is.
18:34:44 >> There are some people -- there are some beautiful
18:34:47 homes around there that are enjoying that park.
18:34:49 We are not.
18:34:50 We have an older population.
18:34:53 We have a lot of people who like to do walking and
18:34:56 exercise, but they can not, you know, hobble back
18:34:59 quickly to their homes.
18:35:01 And I am speaking of myself.
18:35:03 Time marches on.
18:35:04 This white hair --
18:35:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mature, not old.
18:35:09 >> Yeah, he stand corrected sir.
18:35:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I want to make sure I am in your
18:35:13 same class.
18:35:16 >> The second point is that that area is very close to
18:35:19 As you can see, there is a lot of traffic there, a lot
18:35:23 of traffic accidents, but we do have quite a few tipsy
18:35:27 people and obnoxious people who break glasses, throw
18:35:28 bottles and so forth.
18:35:31 A lot of broken glass in that area.
18:35:35 I ask that the street cleaners come into that area more
18:35:40 There are many accidents which the towing companies do
18:35:42 not sweep up after the accident.
18:35:44 And four or five days later there is a lot of broken
18:35:49 glass in many areas, and this has gone on for a long
18:35:51 period of time.
18:35:54 I strongly urge the police department or whoever would
18:35:59 be in charge of that to enforce that issue.
18:36:01 When there is an accident, the tow truck operator is
18:36:04 required to sweep it up.
18:36:08 All the residents and the traffic goes through there.
18:36:10 Everything is crushed and crushed and crushed until
18:36:16 finally it is -- that should have been swept up after
18:36:16 an accident.
18:36:18 The street cleaners can help take care of the broken
18:36:21 glass that is in the area which is very dangerous.
18:36:27 Thank you very much for your time.
18:36:32 >> area 6.
18:36:37 Area 7.
18:36:43 >> Good evening, I am Tonya Thomas, representing area
18:36:47 The Sulphur Springs area.
18:36:52 We are in need of bus -- bus shelters -- I am sorry bus
18:36:56 shelters and -- and trash cans for our area.
18:37:03 What is happening is with -- with weather like this and
18:37:10 in the heat as well, our residents are having problems
18:37:15 with people that is waiting for the bus, that is bus 9,
18:37:18 HARTline bus 9 that runs through the Sulphur Springs
18:37:22 What they are doing is finding shelter in any way
18:37:25 possible meet on our porches and so forth.
18:37:30 So they bring their food and their trash and there are
18:37:33 no garbage cans and so forth and they leave their
18:37:37 I understand when people are waiting on the bus, when
18:37:42 they are coming home, we find people on our porches.
18:37:47 So we appreciate that you consider shelter and some
18:37:49 trash cans for our area.
18:37:52 Thank you very much.
18:37:55 >> Area 8.
18:37:59 Area 9.
18:38:00 Thank you, members of Council.
18:38:02 That concludes our presentation.
18:38:04 >>GWEN MILLER: Councilwoman Saul-Sena.
18:38:06 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you.
18:38:09 Mr. Rotor, that has gotten better and better and
18:38:14 Every year the group requests are -- are more
18:38:18 compelling, and it is evident how closely all the
18:38:22 neighborhoods are working cooperatively to identify the
18:38:24 things that will really benefit the city as a whole,
18:38:28 and he really think that you all are -- deserve huge
18:38:30 appreciation for the work that you do.
18:38:33 I just wish we could print some money, because all of
18:38:37 these are really important things in our community, and
18:38:40 we need to be able to fund them, and every year the
18:38:42 Federal Government gives us less money and every year
18:38:44 we have more issues.
18:38:47 And just think you have done great work here.
18:38:48 >> Thank you.
18:38:50 Because we really have worked together.
18:38:52 We no longer look at what the neighborhood wants, we
18:38:56 think of how it impacts neighborhoods citywide.
18:38:57 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: It is evident.
18:39:00 And I would love to see -- I am -- I am so glad that
18:39:03 Council has this opportunity to hear from you.
18:39:07 Personally thing is a tremendous -- it is tremendous
18:39:10 information for us as we start our look at the next
18:39:13 year's budget, because it gives us the most direct
18:39:15 conversation with the variety of neighborhoods about
18:39:17 what your concerns are.
18:39:19 >> You are welcome to attend our meetings any time.
18:39:22 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I would love the executive summary
18:39:22 he we get here.
18:39:24 Thank you.
18:39:25 Mr. Rotor --
18:39:28 >>MARY MULHERN: Mr. Rotor, wait, I had a couple of
18:39:32 So actually -- these are all of the requests you have
18:39:34 gotten, what we are getting tonight?
18:39:35 >> Correct.
18:39:37 >> You are not meeting -- your next meeting, you are
18:39:39 going to review them and --
18:39:42 >> Our next meeting we will go over the initial request
18:39:45 -- the initial responses and talk about that and get
18:39:49 basically ready for our June appearance before Council.
18:39:50 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.
18:39:54 That's when -- when is the money actually divvied up?
18:39:56 >> That is not divvied up until summer.
18:39:58 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.
18:40:02 I am just wondering because there is -- there is some
18:40:05 needs I am thinking of that -- that haven't been part
18:40:10 of your process since I have been here, but -- that
18:40:13 could very well be considered.
18:40:16 At least -- it looks like they are expect the same
18:40:19 amount this year and hopefully they will get what they
18:40:23 got last year, but we have learned from citizens all
18:40:29 over the city but mostly in West Tampa and East Tampa
18:40:32 that the park fees that have gone up have forced all
18:40:35 those kids out of all the programs.
18:40:38 And I am trying to find places to find some money.
18:40:42 So this was one of the things I thought about, so I am
18:40:45 wondering if we could talk about that or -- can I come
18:40:46 to your next meeting.
18:40:48 When is your next meeting?
18:40:53 >> Definitely.
18:40:56 >>MARY MULHERN: Is it on here?
18:40:58 June 10.
18:40:59 >> June 10, a Thursday night.
18:41:01 Might have Council that night --
18:41:03 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay, well, maybe I will visit you
18:41:07 >> Feel free to E-Mail me.
18:41:10 The E-Mail ask on area 3 and I will be more than
18:41:12 welcome to take it because one of the things we
18:41:15 discussed last meeting, and it was last minute when we
18:41:17 heard that and didn't know where to go with it at that
18:41:21 point, but that definitely was a concern for us as
18:41:23 >>MARY MULHERN: My other question and I don't know who
18:41:25 this is for, maybe Dennis since he is the only staff
18:41:28 person here, but some things like money for trash cans,
18:41:33 I mean we do have solid waste and clean cities division
18:41:36 and, you know, it seems like some of these might be
18:41:40 essential services that might not have to come out of
18:41:41 community development.
18:41:43 >> Yes, ma'am, we can look at those as part of the
18:41:45 overall prioritization.
18:41:47 >>MARY MULHERN: That kind of jump out at me.
18:41:49 The other thing, the bus shelters.
18:41:52 Is that a city -- is that a HART --
18:41:55 >>GWEN MILLER: You need to check with HARTline.
18:41:57 >>MARY MULHERN: We need to get with HART and see if we
18:41:58 can do that.
18:42:01 Get them to provide you the shelter.
18:42:03 >> We just like to stir the pot and get the interest up
18:42:05 and have people talk about it.
18:42:07 Sometimes we don't know exactly where to go.
18:42:11 >>MARY MULHERN: It will be worth talking to them
18:42:13 because they are doing an advertising program on their
18:42:15 shelters and maybe want to put one there for the
18:42:19 >>GWEN MILLER: Mr. Miranda.
18:42:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
18:42:23 I appreciate you and everything that the CDBG committee
18:42:25 has done, and like you said earlier, things have
18:42:27 changed a lot for your membership and yourself.
18:42:31 It used to be district something didn't like what the
18:42:33 other district other one was doing and came before
18:42:36 Council and we got very little done, and throughout the
18:42:40 years, it certainly has gotten better.
18:42:43 Understand the gentleman who was here earlier, Wes, the
18:42:46 mature individual.
18:42:50 That area there that we are talking about, I can't tell
18:42:53 you how many calls we made to move semis and trucks
18:42:58 with flat tires that were there a week, two weeks.
18:43:01 But we are coming along little by little, and I think
18:43:02 the area is getting better.
18:43:04 >> Thank you.
18:43:09 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay.
18:43:14 >> Council, block 4 also and Vice-chair of the CDBG
18:43:18 I noticed that we all saw that everything here cost
18:43:22 And -- and I hope we can find the money to fund -- I
18:43:25 mean all these requests are very worthwhile, but one on
18:43:28 here that actually doesn't cost money, and that's the
18:43:30 traffic calming.
18:43:32 That is the idea that you can have traffic calming
18:43:37 based upon criteria other than just the cars on the
18:43:39 And this is something that we have been trying to push
18:43:41 for a couple of years now.
18:43:43 Traffic calm something one of the biggest complaints in
18:43:43 the City of Tampa.
18:43:48 People want to be able to walk safely, and they can't
18:43:50 because sidewalks in proximity to schools and parks are
18:43:53 not taken into consideration when they determine where
18:43:55 a traffic calming goes.
18:43:57 This one is free.
18:43:59 You can find out why the Transportation department
18:44:03 refuses to use some sort of objective grading scale
18:44:06 like proximity to parks, proximity to -- or
18:44:09 availability of sidewalks when they are determining
18:44:12 whether or not traffic calming belongs in a certain
18:44:15 So that's -- that's my little pitch for that one
18:44:17 citywide request, and it's free.
18:44:20 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Councilwoman Saul-Sena.
18:44:22 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you, Mr. Baron.
18:44:25 We have a great person who does sidewalk planning, Jim
18:44:28 What you are talk is a policy that comes from the head
18:44:30 of Transportation and I think you are completely
18:44:33 The pedestrian activities haven't been linked to
18:44:36 traffic calming, and as Councilmembers, we can make a
18:44:39 request -- and I will do that right now -- in 30 days
18:44:42 to have a person from Transportation come and tell us
18:44:48 how they can link the -- an analysis of traffic calming
18:44:50 to pedestrian vulnerability --
18:44:52 >> Or activity.
18:44:52 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Activity.
18:44:54 That is a better word choice.
18:44:55 Because I think that is something they can definitely
18:44:58 We can't make them do it, but we can request that they
18:44:59 >> Thank you.
18:45:00 I appreciate that.
18:45:03 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: A motion.
18:45:04 >>MARY MULHERN: I think they do do that.
18:45:06 I am pretty sure they do -- they do that with
18:45:09 They have a ranking but don't deal with traffic
18:45:11 Yeah, but they are great about that.
18:45:14 And one of the things I am glad you brought this up,
18:45:17 because I met with them about a specific sidewalk that
18:45:21 was really needed near a school, and it actually has
18:45:23 been put in, but it just occurred to me that that
18:45:28 should be top of the ranking for both traffic calming
18:45:32 and sidewalks, closest to schools, you know.
18:45:35 It is pretty much a no brainier, but I don't know if
18:45:36 that is the policy now.
18:45:40 So I will second your motion.
18:45:42 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Mr. Miranda seconded the motion.
18:45:45 Moved by Councilwoman Saul-Sena and seconded by
18:45:46 Councilman Miranda.
18:45:50 All in favor signify by saying aye.
18:45:52 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: To appear and report on that.
18:45:53 >> Under staff report.
18:45:54 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Under staff report.
18:45:57 >>THOMAS SCOTT: I guess my only question is -- I was
18:45:59 under the impression that all of these items were first
18:46:02 presented to the administration for review.
18:46:04 That has not happened?
18:46:08 >>MARY MULHERN: He snuck that in.
18:46:13 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: This is a policy -- I would say --
18:46:15 >>GWEN MILLER: A wish list.
18:46:17 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Actually make it for the first
18:46:18 Council meeting in may.
18:46:20 That gives them plenty of time.
18:46:20 Thank you.
18:46:23 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay.
18:46:26 >>GWEN MILLER: Move to open items 9 and 10.
18:46:29 >> Do we need to close this public hearing, with a
18:46:31 >>GWEN MILLER: Close.
18:46:32 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Second.
18:46:35 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Those in favor signify by saying aye.
18:46:38 Moved and seconded.
18:46:41 All in favor signify by saying aye.
18:46:47 >> Mr. Chairman --
18:46:52 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Swear the witnesses in.
18:46:55 Folks, we are still in -- just one second, one second,
18:46:59 let's -- let's make sure -- as you exit, please hold
18:47:00 your conversation down, please.
18:47:05 Council is still in session.
18:47:09 If you are going to be speaking in front of Council,
18:47:13 can you stand at this point and be sworn.
18:47:17 [oath administered by Clerk]
18:47:20 >> Mr. Chairman, I believe there are some items that
18:47:23 need to be received and filed prior to action that have
18:47:25 been available for public inspection in City Council's
18:47:27 >>GWEN MILLER: So moved.
18:47:29 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Moved and seconded.
18:47:31 Those in favor signify by aye.
18:47:34 >> A brief reminder if there is ex parte communication
18:47:37 that a Councilmember should disclose those prior to a
18:47:41 Thank you.
18:47:43 >> Land Development Coordination.
18:47:50 Petition to rezone z10-04, the property is 212 South
18:47:54 Armenia Avenue, requesting from RM-24 residential
18:47:58 multifamily to PD planned development to allow for
18:48:03 shop, retail sales, retail cigar shops, daycare,
18:48:04 business and professional office.
18:48:13 With that Planning Commission will come forth.
18:48:15 >>TONY GARCIA: Thank you, Tony Garcia, Planning
18:48:16 Commission staff.
18:48:21 I have been sworn.
18:48:24 This particular site lies within -- on your Vision
18:48:26 Planning map in the central planning district which is
18:48:28 one of the three districts in the City of Tampa that
18:48:31 has been targeted to move growth into as far as
18:48:35 redevelopment opportunities and job creation.
18:48:40 As we zoom in a little bit more, we can see generally
18:48:45 that this project is located within the boundaries of
18:48:46 the neighborhood association boundaries.
18:48:49 This project is located South of Kennedy Boulevard,
18:48:54 South of Cleveland Street and north of Platt.
18:48:57 Predominant land use categories in these areas are
18:48:59 several, Residential-35.
18:49:00 This dark brown color is Residential-20.
18:49:03 This is Urban Mixed Use 60 which is one of our highest
18:49:08 categories and one that we designate primarily for main
18:49:14 corridors and arterials like Adamo Drive.
18:49:20 The pink color, which is pretty predominant along the
18:49:24 corridors of Howard avenue and Armenia which are
18:49:29 business corridors, business use 35 which allows for a
18:49:31 variety of nonresidential uses, office uses, office
18:49:37 professional uses and up to general Commercial uses.
18:49:46 Let me go ahead and show you the aerials.
18:49:48 Here the location of this site.
18:49:50 There are several -- there is a little bit of mix on
18:49:53 this block, but most of the uses around here are low
18:49:57 density professional office uses or neighborhood
18:50:00 Commercial uses in is actually a little bit of a dated
18:50:03 aerial, because as you know the Publix is over here
18:50:07 which is just north of apartments which are to the
18:50:08 South over here.
18:50:11 Just to the outside on the edge of the SOHO district
18:50:15 but we have a variety of general Commercial uses.
18:50:18 The request is consistent with many of the policies and
18:50:19 comprehensive plan that offer opportunities for
18:50:23 redevelopment and infill in this particular district.
18:50:24 Planning Commission staff found the proposed request
18:50:33 consistent with the comprehensive plan.
18:50:37 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Any questions.
18:50:39 Any questions for Mr. Garcia.
18:50:47 If not, okay.
18:50:49 >> Tawanda Anthony.
18:50:51 A petition to waive this which includes a parking
18:50:55 waiver and a buffer waiver.
18:51:03 I will now show the zoning atlas.
18:51:07 Here is the property in the hatched area bordered by
18:51:11 Armenia to the west, Platt to the South, -- to the east
18:51:12 and Cleveland to the north.
18:51:16 You can see it surrounded by residential to the north
18:51:23 and to the South and CG uses including the book store
18:51:30 and shopping plaza.
18:51:46 Here is the aerial of the site.
18:51:50 This is the east side site and this is the parking in
18:51:51 the rear.
18:51:57 And this is a better view of the parking in the rear.
18:52:01 This is a view of north are of the site, and you can
18:52:04 see this forming residential.
18:52:09 This is west of the site, and it is multifamily.
18:52:13 This is additional multifamily east of the site.
18:52:15 And this is South of the site, and this is an office
18:52:25 Here is a view looking north, and this is the area that
18:52:28 provides access to the parking in the rear.
18:52:32 And this is a view one block South and this is the
18:52:43 The petitioner is proposing to rezone from RM-24 the PD
18:52:47 to allow for catering, business, office, retail sales,
18:52:55 retail cigar shop and day care, the PD setback 25.1.
18:52:57 The rear is 58 feet.
18:53:01 The left side yard is 15 feet and South side yard is
18:53:05 6'3" inches, the requirement of parking spaces is seven
18:53:09 spaces and five spaces are being provided.
18:53:11 Including one ADA space.
18:53:17 Photos have been submitted for elevation.
18:53:22 The department finds it consistent with the City of
18:53:24 Tampa Land Development Code; however, if the applicant
18:53:28 revises the plan before first and second reading, then
18:53:31 the department will find the plan consistent with
18:53:36 exception of Transportation are there is an outstanding
18:53:41 objection due to the reduced parking spaces.
18:53:44 The staff findings, Land Development Coordination found
18:53:51 the plan consistent with minor site plans and
18:53:55 petitioner has agreed to provide between first and
18:53:57 second reading.
18:54:01 Transportation found it consistent as well and required
18:54:03 a sidewalk and petitioner will provide a sidewalk and
18:54:06 in addition have an outstanding objection to the
18:54:10 reduced parking spaces.
18:54:13 Also, I have rescission sheets to submit for the
18:54:29 That concludes my presentation, Council.
18:54:31 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Councilwoman Saul-Sena.
18:54:33 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you, I have a question.
18:54:35 The petitioner has requested a variety of uses, one of
18:54:37 which is day care.
18:54:39 I am familiar with this setting, and I am familiar with
18:54:44 this site, and I don't see how that would be possible
18:54:47 to provide this -- you know the open space you need and
18:54:48 everything for day care.
18:54:51 >> They would have to go through the permitting process
18:54:54 and provide the loading air why in the front and
18:54:56 provide the playground area.
18:54:57 It may be feasible but would be determined at the time
18:55:00 -- when they go to pull the permit for the site and
18:55:03 bring it up to standards to meet the -- the
18:55:06 requirements for the daycare, and transportation, we
18:55:09 will address more in terms of the parking and how they
18:55:10 will have to structure that.
18:55:11 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you.
18:55:14 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Councilmember Miranda.
18:55:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
18:55:19 We are discussing both 9 and 10.
18:55:20 >> They are separate.
18:55:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Well --
18:55:23 >>THOMAS SCOTT: They are tied together though.
18:55:26 They might be separate but --
18:55:28 >> The rezoning has to be approved prior to the --
18:55:31 >> If the rezoning is not approved obviously -- but the
18:55:34 thing is, they are separate -- they are separate
18:55:35 subjects --
18:55:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I know they are separate, but I may
18:55:40 vote against one and for the other one.
18:55:41 >> That may very well be.
18:55:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: No, that's going to be.
18:55:53 >> Good evening, Council, Kathryn Coyle, Land
18:55:55 I was going to read through the alcohol petition for
18:55:56 you which is the next case.
18:55:59 My advice would be to keep them separate at this point.
18:56:00 You are reviewing a planned development rezoning
18:56:02 fortuitous listed on the plan.
18:56:07 I would consider just that with the waivers listed and
18:56:09 then get to the alcohol and we can talk about any
18:56:11 issues that came up in the PD when we get to the
18:56:14 alcohol but keep them separate at this point.
18:56:15 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Any other questions?
18:56:30 >> Hi, my name is Ali Alchikh, the owner.
18:56:31 I am not the business operator.
18:56:33 I just own the property and I am only talking about the
18:56:38 waivers and the change of use to Commercial property.
18:56:42 Basically, what we have done when we got this property
18:56:45 was -- it was not in very good shape.
18:56:47 It had not been fixed or redone on the inside and
18:56:49 outside for so many years.
18:56:50 It was rented as a house.
18:56:52 The condition of it was very bad.
18:56:54 We put a lot of money into it to bring it up to
18:56:56 standards to what the neighborhood is like.
18:56:59 We paved the whole area around the property, including
18:57:03 the parking lot, so we made it look much nicer.
18:57:07 It wouldn't be feasible to have this property as
18:57:09 residential because it doesn't stand up as residential
18:57:15 property to the value of what was spent on it, plus the
18:57:18 property, as was mentioned, most of the buildings
18:57:21 around it are either multiresidential or -- he mean
18:57:27 like apartment complexes, duplexes, and so forth and
18:57:30 some office use, professional use, or day care.
18:57:34 And basically we see that it does -- will help in the
18:57:40 area for the property to have a look and the only way
18:57:43 to sustain that is set it up in a way that will help
18:57:45 the neighborhood and keep the use within the standards
18:57:50 of that neighborhood.
18:57:52 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Any questions of Council?
18:57:55 Anything else you wish to add, sir?
18:57:55 >> No.
18:57:58 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Hear from the public -- yes, miss
18:58:06 >>MARY MULHERN: I wanted to ask a question of staff.
18:58:11 I am just looking at the site, and there is not any
18:58:13 pervious surface there at all.
18:58:16 I don't know if you come in with a PD, if you have to
18:58:17 provide anything.
18:58:21 I mean it looks like that is the way it is right now.
18:58:23 >> They do have to provide the green spacing.
18:58:29 They are required 660 square feet and provided 688
18:58:31 square feet.
18:58:32 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.
18:58:34 Maybe -- where is this on that.
18:58:35 >> This is front yard.
18:58:37 >>MARY MULHERN: Because right now it looks like it is
18:58:38 all brick.
18:58:42 You will be putting in landscape there?
18:58:45 >> Landscape around the property.
18:58:47 There is landscape right now around the property
18:58:49 throughout, all the sides and the front.
18:58:54 I mean if -- any changes that is required, we will be
18:58:54 willing to change.
18:58:58 We don't have any objection to any of the requirements.
18:59:00 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay were there is some -- just a
18:59:03 couple of trees up against the front, but -- you know
18:59:07 >> There is a landscape island.
18:59:09 >>MARY MULHERN: Maybe -- I can't see it on these
18:59:12 Where is that?
18:59:16 It doesn't show on the overhead either, but this may be
18:59:17 an old picture.
18:59:20 >> Here is a picture that shows the landscape island.
18:59:25 >>MARY MULHERN: That's on the side.
18:59:25 >> Yes.
18:59:39 >> That is also considered green space.
18:59:44 If I may add landscaping on both sides of the property.
18:59:45 On the north side the complex is shared with the
18:59:49 complex next -- I believe two apartment rentals, half
18:59:53 of that landscape is for -- we know that because we had
18:59:56 an issue of them cutting their grass on that side
18:59:58 before and they said they only have the half property
19:00:00 and we told them that's fine.
19:00:02 There is landscaping on the side the building, on the
19:00:05 South side, plus that area in the middle there where
19:00:06 there are the flowers.
19:00:08 On the back of the property there are some trees that
19:00:11 were just cut down right now because of the season.
19:00:14 Not completely but like trimmed down around the front
19:00:16 of the property.
19:00:19 There were hardly any when the property was taken.
19:00:23 Just basically dirt and wild grass, if you might -- if
19:00:29 you may say.
19:00:33 >> TaWanda Anthony, Land Development.
19:00:35 Council, I would like to point out quickly for all the
19:00:38 uses, they are able to meet the requirement with the
19:00:41 exception of the cigar shop which is requiring the two
19:00:45 additional spaces.
19:00:50 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you.
19:00:51 >> I don't know if I can say something regarding that
19:00:53 I know how the operation is.
19:00:58 Basically you will never find more than three to four
19:01:01 cars in that parking area and the place has been there
19:01:04 for a while, but they don't cater basically to the
19:01:09 The main retail cigar shop in the area is by channel
19:01:12 This one is more for somebody who would come in, sit
19:01:15 down and smoke a cigar then people buying cigars in
19:01:17 bull tock take outside.
19:01:20 So basically the space inside doesn't give them that
19:01:22 much of a chance to have so many people parking outside
19:01:25 at any given time.
19:01:26 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you.
19:01:27 We will hear from the public.
19:01:30 Anyone who wishes to speak, please come forward at this
19:01:34 time, please.
19:01:36 >> Good evening, Council.
19:01:41 Walter Crumbly, the President of the homeowners
19:01:46 It is interesting to come down here and hear what the
19:01:49 man has to say because we never heard a peep out of him
19:01:51 about what he had planned from this.
19:01:56 We have always perhaps mistakenly assumed he was
19:02:00 operating a legitimate business and we find out now
19:02:03 that this business has been going on for about two
19:02:08 years was improperly zoned for that business.
19:02:14 This is the mistake we won't allow again, believe me.
19:02:16 We will check out everybody now.
19:02:20 Anyway, there are is primarily a residential area.
19:02:23 People trying to get into this property off of Armenia
19:02:26 is kind of like trying to make a u-turn at the
19:02:28 Indianapolis 500.
19:02:33 Armenia is one way, and it is high speed, and for
19:02:39 people to try to turn into that driveway is suicide.
19:02:42 The only other way to get in is through the alley and
19:02:46 back which is -- you have town house there is with the
19:02:49 front doors and dust and everything every time you have
19:02:52 somebody drive up and down that alley.
19:02:57 So, you know, from a parking standpoint and a traffic
19:02:59 standpoint, I don't care what Transportation says.
19:03:00 They are nuts.
19:03:03 This is not something that will fly well.
19:03:07 Secondly, I don't want to hear anybody whine about all
19:03:09 the money you spent and all the money you are going to
19:03:12 spend, because there is a Supreme Court case right on
19:03:18 point that says you can not consider economic benefit
19:03:22 or cost to the petitioner in changing the zoning.
19:03:26 They should considered this before they ever undertook
19:03:28 this program.
19:03:33 On January 26, the neighborhood association that met
19:03:40 considered what we knew was coming up, and unanimously
19:03:44 voted to be against rezoning this property to PD.
19:03:47 And that's our position, and we are going to stick by
19:03:53 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you.
19:03:56 Next speaker.
19:03:58 >> Good evening, mark Stevenson.
19:04:01 I am the President of the Moody city homes HOA
19:04:04 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: The what?
19:04:07 >> The Moody city homes, townhouses or condos directly
19:04:10 across the street -- across the alley.
19:04:12 It is not even a street.
19:04:15 We object as a group, as association to this on several
19:04:16 different levels.
19:04:21 I mean, obviously to describe that as an alley is -- is
19:04:24 generous but runs between the two facilities.
19:04:28 You can see from the air yam photos, it really doesn't
19:04:30 give you a sense, but basically it is three steps
19:04:33 across the alley from the driveway of two of our
19:04:38 buildings, which is four two-car garages into the
19:04:40 parking lot of the current cigar shop.
19:04:42 There are a lot more residence there is.
19:04:44 A few people who seem to be living there on the
19:04:47 There is a four-plex right down the street.
19:04:49 A heavily residential area.
19:04:53 Completely unlike two blocks over on South Howard and
19:04:58 There are no other businesses of that kind.
19:05:01 It is sandwiched in between a book store, independent
19:05:04 book store, and daycare center on the other side
19:05:08 I am saying this particularly with an eye to the next
19:05:11 petition, because they are asking eventually for the 2
19:05:15 It is obvious they don't intend to open a day-care
19:05:17 center or an office complex.
19:05:19 They are angling for some kind of a retail drinking
19:05:24 There are plenty of those in our area.
19:05:25 There is a few too many.
19:05:27 Parking restrictions are even getting worse.
19:05:33 We successfully gotten the city to put "no parking"
19:05:38 signs in the works for moody, South moody, from 213,
19:05:45 214, 211 and 212 all the way to Platt.
19:05:48 No way any police can support any kind of reasonable
19:05:49 activity in that location.
19:05:50 I would appreciate you voting against it.
19:05:52 Do you have any questions I can answer for you about
19:05:54 the area or the building?
19:05:57 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Can I ask -- you are the President
19:05:59 of this --
19:06:02 >> Yeah, the HOA.
19:06:04 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: How many people live there?
19:06:07 >> Three buildings in total, nine units in total.
19:06:08 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Some of the units, their primary
19:06:10 access it from the alley?
19:06:13 >> Yeah, two buildings that face that alley.
19:06:15 And there are four driveways.
19:06:18 With two-car garages.
19:06:23 So there are four residents that is their primary
19:06:26 Basically their only parking and only access to their
19:06:27 home is through that.
19:06:28 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you very much.
19:06:30 Anyone else from the public?
19:06:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: May I ask the city one question.
19:06:39 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Let's let him --
19:06:41 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: The city first so --
19:06:44 >>MARY MULHERN: Yeah, then the speaker.
19:06:45 >> Good evening, Council.
19:06:48 Linda crumbly, and I have been sworn.
19:06:51 I am asking you to really look at this in a very open
19:06:56 There is a Montessori school.
19:06:59 We have children in that neighborhood.
19:07:01 They are 125 feet from that building.
19:07:04 We do not need another establishment to bring out
19:07:09 liquor or beer or wine or any of that.
19:07:13 And smoking, especially, to have that type of
19:07:17 environment where children can see it.
19:07:20 We need to protect our community.
19:07:23 The more -- I can't impress upon you how much we want
19:07:28 this to be a good, quality community that we live in.
19:07:31 We have done -- we have made great strides in trying to
19:07:34 clean up this neighborhood, and we ask that you please
19:07:36 deny this petition.
19:07:39 For our children and for our families and for the
19:07:43 growth of our community, thank you.
19:07:45 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Councilman Miranda.
19:07:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
19:07:49 This case is very puzzling.
19:07:52 Are there any licenses that anybody got to start a
19:07:54 business or they did it without any permits or any
19:07:55 licenses or nothing?
19:07:59 I don't know.
19:08:04 >> Do you want to address it, Miss Cole, otherwise I
19:08:07 >>JULIA COLE: Julia Cole, Legal Department.
19:08:09 I would urge you to stick on the question of whether or
19:08:11 not this is an appropriate rezoning.
19:08:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I am not asking -- what I am asking
19:08:14 is nothing to do with zoning.
19:08:15 I understand that.
19:08:20 I want to know the city faulted in any way so I can
19:08:21 correct that or try to correct that.
19:08:24 Now if we want to close our eye and keep walking like
19:08:28 we are in a little closet, that's fine.
19:08:31 >> If I may, I don't mean to jump up.
19:08:33 Kathryn Coyle, Land Development.
19:08:37 This site is under violation from code enforcement for
19:08:39 the change of use and they are here before to you try
19:08:40 to make it legal.
19:08:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: They did have licenses before?
19:08:47 >>JULIA COLE: Appears they might be under a code
19:08:50 enforcement -- there is a possibility -- I want to
19:08:52 remind Council that we ought to look at this on the
19:08:53 land use question.
19:08:53 Thank you.
19:08:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
19:09:01 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Any other questions of Council.
19:09:08 >> Regarding the licenses, I know they have cigar shop
19:09:12 license that was issued by the tobacco, alcohol and
19:09:14 firearms department, when that was opened.
19:09:16 They didn't open the case without license.
19:09:20 They had even occupational license, they had -- the
19:09:23 license that was required to operate a cigar shop.
19:09:26 They never sold alcoholic beverages of any type there.
19:09:29 They have just been operating a cigar shop and I know
19:09:32 that basically to them, everybody is talking about the
19:09:33 bar or a lounge.
19:09:37 Basically put the use -- change the use to Commercial
19:09:40 was to encompass everything because basically the
19:09:42 tenants right now might be here this year.
19:09:44 They might not be here next year.
19:09:48 And we didn't want to get stuck with one kind of
19:09:52 At the same time, this is never going be too bar where
19:09:54 people are going to come and drink and leave.
19:09:59 Again, business -- most of their clients are business
19:10:01 people, lawyers, doctors that come in to have a cigar.
19:10:04 Children being exposed to smoking.
19:10:07 The property has an apartment complex between the
19:10:12 school and the shop to where there is no -- there are
19:10:14 no children that come into that area coming out of the
19:10:17 day care, because the -- the way the cars go out of
19:10:20 that school is toward Cleveland, because the alleyway
19:10:22 is one way it is supposed to be.
19:10:26 So I never seen one of the parents drive their car
19:10:28 across the back of the cigar shop.
19:10:30 At the same time, they can not see cigars and
19:10:34 cigarettes being smoked there because usually the smoke
19:10:35 something within the premise.
19:10:38 Not nobody sitting in alleyway smoking cigars.
19:10:41 They have no reason to do that.
19:10:43 Very comfortable seating inside.
19:10:44 Couches, armchairs.
19:10:48 The place is done in a very nonCommercial setting.
19:10:52 Basically looks like a house.
19:10:53 The inside is like a house.
19:10:55 Couches, armchairs.
19:10:59 Couple of high-top tables with chairs on them.
19:11:04 So it is not a Commercial type per se.
19:11:06 The house looks like a house, the inside looks like a
19:11:11 A lot of people have brought up the idea of -- people
19:11:14 that are the customers of that place right now that
19:11:16 there is no place in the summer or in their own season
19:11:18 to be sitting inside smoking.
19:11:19 They have to sit outside.
19:11:26 So the exposure to cigarettes or cigars from the school
19:11:28 is impossible.
19:11:29 Nobody sits outside in the back.
19:11:32 They usually sit Armenia in the front if they are going
19:11:37 to smoke on the chairs outside and as mentioned was
19:11:38 very high.
19:11:40 Cars passing through, I don't think anybody would be
19:11:44 offended by cigars being smoked out there and very
19:11:45 irregular to happen.
19:11:48 It happens usually inside the cigar shop.
19:11:50 Very adequate ventilation for the smoking, so unless
19:11:53 somebody is wanting to smoke, they don't go inside the
19:11:57 place and nobody else is exposed to that.
19:11:58 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay.
19:12:01 Any questions?
19:12:02 Thank you very much, sir.
19:12:05 Any other questions from Council?
19:12:06 Motion to close.
19:12:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: So moved.
19:12:10 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Second.
19:12:13 >> Council, if I may, just to direct your attention to
19:12:15 the staff report.
19:12:20 If you look at the staff report, the staff has specific
19:12:26 findings of fact beginning on page 3, under new --
19:12:30 under number 2, and what that is in effect where you
19:12:35 see the -- like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, et cetera, those are the
19:12:43 criteria for PD site plan zoning district under 27-321.
19:12:48 And obviously those are in italics what the staff's
19:12:49 findings is.
19:12:51 Obviously it is the City Council's determination of
19:12:54 what those findings are based on the evidence that you
19:12:58 have heard, and then use that criteria to determine
19:13:00 whether or not to approve this PD.
19:13:02 So I just wanted to bring those to your attention
19:13:06 because that is the criteria under 27-321.
19:13:09 And again it -- though the recommendation -- the
19:13:12 findings of the staff are in italics, it is ultimately
19:13:14 up to the City Council.
19:13:15 >>THOMAS SCOTT: A motion on the floor to close.
19:13:18 All those in favor signify by saying aye.
19:13:24 What is the pleasure of Council?
19:13:25 What is the pleasure of Council?
19:13:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Chairman, I am going to move
19:13:30 for denial on the 27-321.
19:13:36 I don't think it meets the criteria to continue this
19:13:42 hearing for zoning change from RM-24 to PD under
19:13:47 section page 3, section 2, 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5, those
19:13:50 criteria are not met and therefore I move for denial.
19:13:54 >>THOMAS SCOTT: It has been moved by Councilman
19:13:58 Miranda, seconded by Councilwoman Saul-Sena for denial.
19:14:00 All those in favor signify by saying aye.
19:14:08 >>MARY MULHERN: I am voting aye, but I wanted to point
19:14:12 out some other findings of fact.
19:14:14 Number 5, reducing Transportation needs.
19:14:19 They are asking for parking waivers, which I think that
19:14:21 is not going to be an option because of the
19:14:23 Transportation objections.
19:14:29 That is not going to work.
19:14:30 Number 6, compatibility.
19:14:34 This isn't compatible with the surrounding -- mostly
19:14:41 residential and small business and number 7, promotes
19:14:45 more desirable living and working environments than
19:14:46 would be possible.
19:14:47 I think obviously there are other possibilities that
19:14:50 would be better uses, and I would suggest it would make
19:14:53 a very nice little coffee shop where people after they
19:14:58 buy their books at Inkwood could go in and have a cup
19:15:00 of coffee.
19:15:03 >> Motion carried with Caetano and Dingfelder being
19:15:05 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Motion to deny.
19:15:12 >> I will look at the next item.
19:15:14 >> Catherine Coyle, Land Development.
19:15:16 The next item is not able to apply.
19:15:19 If the property is zoned residential, an alcohol
19:15:22 application cannot be made to the city.
19:15:25 So the application actually should be withdrawn or not
19:15:29 Not denied.
19:15:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Move not to accept item number 10
19:15:35 as an agenda item.
19:15:36 >> Second.
19:15:37 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Moved and seconded.
19:15:40 >> What was that motion.
19:15:42 >> Involved have it deemed withdrawn.
19:15:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Moved to have it deemed withdrawn
19:15:46 inappropriate for the zoning of the property.
19:15:48 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Moved and seconded.
19:15:50 Seconded by Councilwoman Miller.
19:15:51 Signify by saying aye.
19:15:59 >> Motion carried with Caetano and Dingfelder absent.
19:16:01 >>THOMAS SCOTT: New business, Commissioner Saul-Sena.
19:16:04 >> I would like to make a motion for the founder
19:16:07 defendant pregnancy and bipolar alliance of Tampa bay.
19:16:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Second.
19:16:11 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Their 25th anniversary and he is
19:16:14 available to receive this commendation at 9:00 on March
19:16:19 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Moved and seconded.
19:16:21 All in favor signify by saying aye.
19:16:25 That -- anyone else have any new business item.
19:16:29 I have a couple of items here under new business
19:16:32 requested by Tampa bay for letter of support for the
19:16:37 Tampa City Council for the 2014 NFL Super Bowl bid.
19:16:38 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Second.
19:16:40 >>GWEN MILLER: A motion and a second.
19:16:43 All in favor of the motion signify saying aye.
19:16:44 Opposed nay.
19:16:46 The other is presentation at the City Council to the
19:16:52 Moffitt cancer center foundation.
19:16:53 >>GWEN MILLER: A second.
19:16:56 Motion and a second, all in favor say aye.
19:16:57 Opposed nay.
19:17:01 >>THOMAS SCOTT: The last I request is on our next
19:17:03 regular meeting.
19:17:05 Is that pretty busy agenda?
19:17:07 I wanted to make a motion for ten-minute staff report
19:17:13 to make a presentation about my trip to Haiti.
19:17:15 >> At the next regular meeting?
19:17:16 >>THOMAS SCOTT: yeah.
19:17:19 >> Which would be April 1st.
19:17:21 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Is that a busy meeting?
19:17:23 >> Mr. Chairman I don't know whether or not -- accept
19:17:26 for the fact that you will have second reading and
19:17:30 adoption public hearings on two items, one involving
19:17:33 the Gulfview estates request and the other involving
19:17:38 the communications tower on Henderson boulevard.
19:17:42 So other than that, that's -- I would say -- and that
19:17:45 is scheduled for -- that is scheduled for 9:30 in the
19:17:48 Obviously, you know, there is nothing scheduled for the
19:17:52 afternoon -- or yes -- is there anything scheduled --
19:17:54 >> Clerk's office.
19:17:57 No nothing for the afternoon; however, there are six
19:18:01 staff reports and unfinished business.
19:18:04 >> It is Council's discretion.
19:18:10 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Yeah, let's do that.
19:18:12 >>MARY MULHERN: At the beginning of the staff reports
19:18:14 which I would -- I don't know -- they are not time
19:18:15 certain are they?
19:18:17 >> The staff reports --
19:18:18 >>MARY MULHERN: 10:30, okay.
19:18:20 At 10:30.
19:18:21 >>THOMAS SCOTT: At 10:30.
19:18:22 My motion.
19:18:23 >>GWEN MILLER: A motion and a second.
19:18:25 All in favor of the motion say aye.
19:18:27 Opposed, nay.
19:18:28 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay.
19:18:31 >>GWEN MILLER: Move to receive and --
19:18:31 >>MARY MULHERN: Second.
19:18:34 >>THOMAS SCOTT: All those in favor.
19:18:37 Any other business to come before Council.
19:18:38 We stand adjourned.
19:18:39 Any public comment.
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