TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
Thursday, May 19, 2011
9:00 a.m. Session
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09:04:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Tampa City Council is called to
09:04:25 The chair yield to Lisa Montelione.
09:04:31 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I would like to yield to recognize
09:04:38 Reverend Phyllis Hunt from the Metropolitan Community
09:04:40 Church of Tampa.
09:04:40 >> Would you give praise for the beauty of this day?
09:04:45 We lift up to you the members of our City Council who
09:04:48 bring their wisdom, their heart, their skill, to do
09:04:55 great work for our city.
09:04:58 May we be mindful, O God, of the privileges that we
09:05:01 have as we work towards those things which we need
09:05:12 whose lives have been disrupted by financial
09:05:14 situations, medical situations, unexpected tragedy.
09:05:22 May we be mindful of the beauty of our city.
09:05:28 And may we work through what is diversity that unite
09:05:35 We thank you, O God, for this privilege.
09:05:45 And we pray for our leaders, work with leaders around
09:05:49 the globe for justice and for piece.
09:05:57 For those in the community to be your hands and your
09:06:00 heart, for each of us to make a difference, as our
09:06:04 difference makes a difference in the world we touch.
09:06:06 In all that is sacred and holy, we ask this.
09:06:12 [ Pledge of Allegiance ]
09:06:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Roll call.
09:06:41 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
09:06:44 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Present.
09:06:45 >>FRANK REDDICK:
09:06:48 >>MIKE COHEN: Here.
09:06:49 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Here.
09:06:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Here.
09:06:53 Before we begin, we have some special guests this
09:06:55 morning from Randall middle school.
09:06:57 And I think you're so nice looking and so well dressed
09:07:02 and so well prepared that I think we are going to
09:07:05 introduce you.
09:07:09 Jepsen Clements, is he here?
09:07:14 You look good on television.
09:07:16 Kevin Winslow.
09:07:17 Nice looking young man.
09:07:19 Connor Harmon?
09:07:25 Looks like a short stop.
09:07:27 Dallas Strickland.
09:07:28 A model.
09:07:30 Julian gray.
09:07:34 Nice looking young man.
09:07:35 And they are here today to see how a field trip and how
09:07:40 government works.
09:07:40 Did I miss anyone other than the individual who brought
09:07:44 them, Elizabeth -- I hope I pronounce it right -- but I
09:07:49 don't think I will -- PERZOLISI.
09:07:58 I was close.
09:08:00 I'm sorry, I didn't have your name.
09:08:03 It's our pleasure meeting you.
09:08:05 Thank you for coming and at this time we go to the
09:08:11 ceremonial activity.
09:08:12 The chair yield to the honorable Frank Reddick.
09:08:28 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
09:08:33 Good morning, council.
09:08:34 It is an honor for me to stand here this morning to
09:08:36 present a commendation to two fine gentlemen who saved
09:08:41 the lives of a human being in East Tampa.
09:08:45 A fire broke out, as you can see, a fire broke out, and
09:08:55 these two young men were able to go in.
09:08:59 They tried with an ax, the break-ins, the house had
09:09:06 burglar bars and couldn't do it.
09:09:09 So they took special equipment for one of these
09:09:13 gentlemen to come through to save this home while it
09:09:17 was burning, on fire.
09:09:21 To this day the families of the person they rescued,
09:09:27 the one who is dear to the family, they have to be
09:09:31 thankful to these gentlemen.
09:09:32 I just want to take the opportunity to recognize them
09:09:35 and accommodate them for what they done to make sure
09:09:39 that this person was able to live for a long time, I
09:09:45 So I would like to present to corporal Eric Wilkinson,
09:10:04 for assess ting the rescue of a burning home, with
09:10:10 little consideration of your own safety and welfare for
09:10:12 April 19, 12011.
09:10:14 On behalf of City Council, we extend best wishes to you
09:10:19 for your commitment to make our community a better work
09:10:24 to work and play.
09:10:26 We thank you, sir, for what you have done.
09:10:31 [ Applause ]
09:10:40 >> Thank you very much.
09:10:41 I appreciate this.
09:10:42 We try to do a lot of hard work so it's nice to be
09:10:47 But I do guarantee that any other police officer in the
09:10:50 City of Tampa would have done the same thing.
09:10:52 But I do appreciate it.
09:10:54 And I would like to thank the chiefs.
09:10:58 Actually both sides.
09:11:01 A busy day to be here.
09:11:10 Anyway, I thank you very much.
09:11:12 I do appreciate it.
09:11:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: Also, we would like to present this
09:11:24 commendation to firefighter Jason LUNA, for the rescue
09:11:31 from this burning home with little consideration of
09:11:33 your life and well-being on April 21, 2011.
09:11:42 This commendation presented by the Tampa City Council.
09:11:46 [ Applause ]
09:11:48 >> Thank you very much.
09:11:50 I appreciate it.
09:11:55 It's humbling.
09:12:02 Thank you for everybody here.
09:12:04 I really appreciate it.
09:12:08 Thank you very much.
09:12:09 [ Applause ]
09:12:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Just let me say that we feel very
09:12:20 honored to have good people working in both the fire
09:12:22 department and the police department, men and women who
09:12:25 do this by training and by instinct without regard of
09:12:31 their life.
09:12:32 Thank you both very much for being here.
09:12:42 For the record, the fire department beat the veterans.
09:12:46 I hate to say this.
09:12:54 It will not happen this Sunday.
09:12:55 All right.
09:12:56 Next, Mr. Wit Ostrenko from the museum of science and
09:13:05 industry on the motion of Mr. Suarez and Mrs.
09:13:11 Montelione to be named Hispanic scientist of the year
09:13:16 >> Wit Ostrenko, MOSI, 23 and a half years.
09:13:26 This is our eleventh year.
09:13:27 And every time, we follow the wonderful men and women
09:13:33 of the fire department and police department.
09:13:35 It's very hard to sit here and just talk to you briefly
09:13:39 about what the science center does for our community.
09:13:43 We are sort of the beginning of the pipe lane for our
09:13:47 scientists and our technologists, our engineers, our
09:13:51 mathematicians, our medical doctors.
09:13:54 We get kids excited about the sciences at an early age.
09:14:00 There is a pipeline.
09:14:07 What we would like to do with the eight, nine,
09:14:10 ten-year-olds like the kids behind us.
09:14:12 They kind of have a dream of what they want to be.
09:14:16 And a scientist or physician, they can recall back to
09:14:18 the time that they were young, and they had a dream,
09:14:21 and that's what we are here to do is inspire those
09:14:23 young people to go on to college and major in the
09:14:30 But there's a group of people in our community that are
09:14:33 having a tough time even graduating from high school.
09:14:38 Hispanic kids drop out at a 30% rate, boys and girls.
09:14:42 And we take it as a challenge to do something about
09:14:47 And I would like to introduce you to our volunteer
09:14:53 chair of the national Hispanic scientist of the year,
09:14:58 Mr. Garcia, were a national firm, and we are glad to
09:15:04 have him in Tampa.
09:15:05 >> Thank you, wit.
09:15:08 First, thank you very much for having us here today.
09:15:10 I want to bring our founding sponsors of the event,
09:15:14 long before I joined MOSI on the board, and it would
09:15:20 not be a success like it is today, and I want to thank
09:15:23 you very much.
09:15:26 And I also want to give you a little update.
09:15:28 Last year we grew the event about 25%.
09:15:30 We had about 1200 students the year before and we
09:15:33 brought in about 1500 students so it is growing thanks
09:15:37 to the community for your support.
09:15:38 I know, chairman Miranda has been there many years.
09:15:45 I think he's been there to all of them if not most of
09:15:48 them, and I would like to invite you to attend.
09:15:51 It is for a great cause, a big problem in our
09:15:56 community, and we are just trying to help one child at
09:16:01 a time.
09:16:01 I know personally that mentoring can make a big
09:16:04 difference, because I was one of those percentages
09:16:09 talking about earlier and thank God I was able to cycle
09:16:12 through that and make some things happen for me and my
09:16:14 family and be productive.
09:16:16 >> The founding sponsor is Bright House.
09:16:30 >> Good morning, Mr. Chairman, members of City Council.
09:16:33 My name is Carlos Castilla of Bright House Networks,
09:16:40 and it's our honor to be sponsor for the eleventh year
09:16:44 in a row.
09:16:44 I hope you are able to join us at the event.
09:16:46 And go Bolts.
09:16:48 Thank you.
09:16:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Somehow the Suarezes, the Capins and
09:16:55 Mirandas can never be the scientist of the year.
09:16:57 I can't figure that out.
09:16:59 [ Laughter ]
09:17:02 >> Christian Samper, a very young guy, has a big job in
09:17:10 I was able to meet him, one of my trips lobbying in
09:17:15 Washington on my medical business.
09:17:16 He's very excited about mentoring young children, very
09:17:20 interested in Tampa, what the museum does in the event.
09:17:22 So I think he's going to be great for us.
09:17:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I know that due to the great draw
09:17:27 that this community has from all over the country, I
09:17:30 believe we have now one or two of these great
09:17:34 scientists living in Tampa.
09:17:35 >> Dr. Diaz, yes.
09:17:39 >> Thank you all three of you very much and thanks to
09:17:44 Bright House for being the lead sponsor.
09:17:46 All right.
09:17:46 Item number 3, Mrs. Montelione is going to make a
09:17:52 presentation to Alan Snel of the bicycle dealers
09:17:58 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
09:18:05 It is my privilege to present this commendation to Alan
09:18:09 Alan is the director of the southwest Florida
09:18:13 alliance -- southwest bike united dealers, often known
09:18:20 as SWFMD, and he founded the bicycle club.
09:18:28 This morning we had the bicycles to work day, and Alan
09:18:32 had the privilege of biking to work this morning, with
09:18:37 Mayor Buckhorn, and really, he has spearheaded, it's
09:18:43 really his work that has brought bicycling not only as
09:18:47 a recreational activity but as a method of commuting to
09:18:52 many who live here in Tampa.
09:18:55 So I would like to read this commendation into the
09:18:59 Tampa City Council commendation presented to Alan Snel,
09:19:03 the Tampa City Council recognizes your tireless work in
09:19:05 promoting bicycle safety and bicycling as a healthy
09:19:09 It is because of your work that bicycling is now
09:19:11 recognized as an alternative method of transportation
09:19:14 for so many in the City of Tampa.
09:19:16 In this month of May, national bike month, on this day,
09:19:20 Thursday, May 19, 2011 also known as national bike to
09:19:24 work day, it is with great pleasure that the Tampa City
09:19:26 Council presents to you this commendation.
09:19:33 [ Applause ]
09:19:41 >> It's kind of embarrassing for me to receive this
09:19:45 I might lose some of my street -- it's a humbling award
09:19:51 and I'm really honored.
09:19:53 As a lot of City Council members know, I talked with
09:19:57 personally on the campaign trail as well as numerous
09:20:00 times before the City Council in the past three to four
09:20:03 years, and I have to say that we do have this wonderful
09:20:07 burgeoning bicycle movement in Tampa, and really
09:20:09 there's multiple people.
09:20:12 Karen Krause of the Tampa downtown partnership put on
09:20:16 the mayor's ride and she's done some great work.
09:20:18 And we had two fellows who put on last night ride to
09:20:26 I would like to put a smiley face on the issue but when
09:20:29 people are getting killed on bicycles it's hard to do
09:20:31 that sometimes, and we have so many ghost bikes in the
09:20:33 Tampa area.
09:20:34 We have four that it was impossible to have a single
09:20:37 ride to include all the ghost bikes last night.
09:20:40 We had to have two separate bicycle rides.
09:20:42 And it's about transportation, about livability, and
09:20:45 also about public safety.
09:20:47 And I want to say that I have a sense of positive
09:20:54 feeling toward improving bicycling, because we have a
09:20:58 Councilwoman, Mary Mulhern, who got bicycling on the
09:21:01 agenda as part of the bicycle safety action plan within
09:21:04 the past year.
09:21:06 Councilwoman Capin showed up six weeks ago to a
09:21:10 restaurant bicycle tour in Seminole Heights and she
09:21:12 said something very profound, and that was, she told
09:21:15 all of the bicyclists, about one hundred bicyclists
09:21:18 gathered in a parking lot in a local restaurant, and
09:21:20 she said by just biking you are activists, and truer
09:21:25 words could not be told.
09:21:27 As council members, if you get behind bicycling, you
09:21:29 also will be activists as well.
09:21:32 I had a fantastic -- Harry Coe's mom on the campaign
09:21:41 I thought the best way to get to the Harry was through
09:21:43 his mom.
09:21:44 So hopefully that will pay off.
09:21:46 And I think the entire council has a lot of potential
09:21:52 to work with Mayor Buckhorn.
09:21:54 Just for you to know, assistant Chief Bennett was right
09:21:56 here, and he was, along with about a dozen other Tampa
09:21:59 police officers on the ride, and they unveiled a bike
09:22:06 share the road bicycle campaign this morning which is
09:22:09 We have a lot of partners and people are moving
09:22:11 bicycling up in Tampa from many different directions so
09:22:14 it's not just me.
09:22:16 But I really accept this really on behalf of all the
09:22:18 people working to improve bicycling in Tampa.
09:22:20 And I really appreciate it.
09:22:22 Thank you very much.
09:22:26 [ Applause ]
09:22:27 >>CHAIRMAN MIRANDA: (Off microphone)
09:22:45 >> Thank you very much.
09:22:45 I have been with the Florida orchestra for about a
09:22:47 little over three years now.
09:22:49 It's my first time coming to present to council.
09:22:51 I apologize for taking so long.
09:22:56 We are very grateful for the support of the council and
09:22:59 the City of Tampa.
09:23:03 And I want top take a moment to just talk about where
09:23:08 the orchestra is and some items we are working on.
09:23:11 I know councilman Cohen was recently at our parks
09:23:14 concert about two weeks ago, Curtis Hixon park.
09:23:21 And the Florida orchestra is becoming I think one of
09:23:25 the most vibrant orchestrating in the country.
09:23:28 We spent a lot of time in the last year asking
09:23:30 ourselves some really big questions, like why do we
09:23:33 And we exist for a variety of reasons.
09:23:37 We make great music.
09:23:39 We help people experience new emotions.
09:23:43 We bring cultures together.
09:23:45 We are a reason to recruit people into this community.
09:23:47 We play a number of roles.
09:23:50 But we only succeed in those missions to the extent
09:23:53 that our halls are full.
09:23:54 So we have been looking at what are the barriers to
09:23:58 attending concerts.
09:24:00 And after experimenting for about a year and a half, we
09:24:05 have decided that the primary barrier for people coming
09:24:09 to symphonies is price.
09:24:12 And if we look at what's happened to the price of the
09:24:17 arts, not just in symphony, opera, ballet, art museums,
09:24:23 the hearts in general over the last half century, the
09:24:25 cost of attending the arts has dwarfed the rate of
09:24:28 inflation and now lots of people just can't afford to
09:24:31 go to the symphony or attend arts activities anymore.
09:24:34 And so we have been experimenting with drastically
09:24:37 lower ticket prices, and we found that when we lowered
09:24:40 those prices, not by 10 or 5% but by 50%, that the
09:24:50 numbers of people coming drastically increased.
09:24:53 And not only did we start serving hugely more people,
09:24:56 but those people didn't look like our regular audience.
09:25:00 The people who started to come were less white than the
09:25:10 audience has been and much younger than our traditional
09:25:14 So a major initiative that we have announce just about
09:25:16 a month ago is a lowering of our ticket price across
09:25:22 the board, so that now all of our tickets to all
09:25:28 Florida orchestra subscription concerts are 15, 30 and
09:25:33 More than half the hall for all of our concerts is $30
09:25:36 or less.
09:25:38 We launched about a month ago, 12 weeks ago, and what
09:25:44 we have seen already is.
09:25:48 the number of people buying tickets has for next
09:25:51 season attracting about 21% ahead of last year.
09:25:55 And this was after last year when we were just
09:25:58 experimenting, we saw an 18.5% growth for the season
09:26:03 that's just wrapping up next week.
09:26:05 So the number of people that we are serving in this
09:26:10 community has grown drastically through this activity.
09:26:15 Also, we have looked at why have people -- what is the
09:26:20 reason that people stop attending? And we found the
09:26:23 main reason that people stop attending the orchestra is
09:26:25 that they don't feel comfortable driving at night
09:26:30 And so we have taken a coffee series concert which was
09:26:35 Thursday mornings.
09:26:36 We had six of those.
09:26:37 We added a concert last year.
09:26:40 Usually when you add a concert to the subscription
09:26:43 series you see a decrease in subscribership for at
09:26:46 least a year or two.
09:26:47 Some people say, I just don't want another concert.
09:26:50 We added a concert and saw 4% growth.
09:26:53 That's unheard of.
09:26:54 So this year we said, all right, let's take the coffee
09:26:57 series and introduce a new one in another city in,
09:27:01 And when we added that new free concert series of
09:27:06 Wednesday morning concerts, in fact, we blew away all
09:27:10 of our projections for how that would be received.
09:27:12 The next year we are going to take our next series.
09:27:21 So when we look at people stop coming, daytime, we have
09:27:24 been moving it to daytime more.
09:27:26 Then we know that the main reason that people don't
09:27:29 attend at all is because whatever they think symphony
09:27:32 is, they think I not for them, and so we have been
09:27:36 experimenting over the last few years with rock concert
09:27:43 format and have been highly successful with those and
09:27:45 will be launching a rock concert series.
09:27:48 And then we are going to launch a series of family
09:27:52 concert series.
09:27:54 People with children in the homes tend not to subscribe
09:28:00 to symphony but with a family series they will come to
09:28:03 So groups of people who don't trap additionally attend
09:28:08 symphonies, and hope we make sense for you.
09:28:13 And so far, those formats have all helped us draw many
09:28:19 more people and much more diverse array of our
09:28:26 Another big question we have been asking ourselves is
09:28:30 what does the Florida orchestra do best in the world?
09:28:35 And what we do best in the world, I think, is actually
09:28:39 not Beethoven's Ninth Symphony.
09:28:43 I think the Vienna Philharmonic performs it better than
09:28:47 we do.
09:28:47 I think what we do best in the world is bringing the
09:28:49 Tampa Bay area together as a single community.
09:28:55 At point during my tenure in town, I have been
09:28:58 disappointed when political, corporate, and community
09:29:02 leaders have talked divisively about Tampa, St. Pete,
09:29:07 the different towns in the area, when in fact we are
09:29:10 much more powerful as a single unit.
09:29:13 And I think about companies like Publix that serve it
09:29:16 is entire Tampa Bay area, does a great job.
09:29:19 I have never crossed the Howard Frankland to go to
09:29:23 I go to one by my house.
09:29:25 The Bolts do a great job of bringing people to Tampa.
09:29:28 But nobody ever goes to St. Petersburg to see the
09:29:32 It a one-way trip.
09:29:34 We have unlimited exchange for subscribers and we know
09:29:39 a third of our tickets -- we are taking thousands of
09:29:43 people across all the bridges in both directions all
09:29:45 the time.
09:29:46 A whistle ago, I developed a theory that are we do that
09:29:49 more than anybody else.
09:29:54 I have yet to see somebody raise their hand and say,
09:29:57 no, I think we do it more.
09:29:59 So I think in fact we do that more than anybody else.
09:30:02 And in the process, people see the bridges aren't that
09:30:06 Yes, the downtowns are nice.
09:30:08 The downtowns have good restaurants and nice halls.
09:30:10 And we help bring the community together as a single
09:30:15 We do in the process, in the specific night when we are
09:30:22 in Tampa, or in St. Petersburg, we are only serving
09:30:26 St. Petersburg or Clearwater, burr in aggregate we
09:30:28 serve everybody.
09:30:29 So now we are asking ourselves, what specific actions
09:30:33 can we take that serve everybody at the same time?
09:30:37 And we have just signed our first recording contract
09:30:43 with the largest distributor of classical music in the
09:30:46 When we record, the goal will be to be reviewed, to be
09:30:55 nominated for Grammys, when that happens we are not
09:30:58 representing a specific city, we are representing Tampa
09:31:01 Bay area and are able to serve this community better.
09:31:07 When we tour, we are not serving any one city, we are
09:31:12 serving the area.
09:31:21 This is my first time talking to you, covering a
09:31:24 variety of topics.
09:31:27 I'm happy to answer any questions because I haven't
09:31:31 spoken to you yet..
09:31:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
09:31:39 All right.
09:31:39 Before we go to the ceremonial activities that we had
09:31:43 today for those especially young individuals, they are
09:31:47 here this morning.
09:31:48 Item 1 through 4.
09:31:50 I need adoption for the minutes of the regular session.
09:31:53 I need a motion of May 5th, the year 2011.
09:31:57 A motion by Ms. Mulhern, seconded by Mr. Cohen.
09:32:01 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
09:32:05 Motion passes unanimously.
09:32:06 Before we go to approval of minute or any changes,
09:32:08 madam clerk, to the agenda be?
09:32:19 >> (microphone off)
09:32:25 We have a new business item.
09:32:26 We have a resolution approving the appointment of Myria
09:32:32 wavy to the equal business opportunity advisory
09:32:35 committee for a two-year term.
09:32:38 We have a resolution approving the appointment of Jason
09:32:42 Wilson to the Enterprise Zone Development Agency for a
09:32:48 four-year term.
09:32:49 We have a resolution approving Kevin Meniere as a
09:32:57 member of the Historic Preservation Commission for a
09:32:59 three-year term.
09:33:00 We have a resolution approving the appointment of
09:33:04 Charlotte Herzey as a member of the civil service board
09:33:09 to a three-year term, and confirming the appointment of
09:33:16 Louise E. Vieira as a member of the civil service board
09:33:22 for the unexpired term of Mike Suarez.
09:33:26 And, in addition to giving a three-year term,
09:33:33 additional three-year term ending June 8, 2014.
09:33:38 We have a new business item resolution establishing a
09:33:44 revised schedule of fees for the administrative SU-1
09:33:52 We also have a resolution setting a public hearing on
09:33:56 June 9th, 2011 at 5:01 and June 23rd, 2011 at
09:34:03 9:30 making revisions to chapter 27 related to college
09:34:12 youth in Ybor City.
09:34:12 We have a resolution setting a public hearing on June
09:34:15 9th at 5:01 p.m. and June 23rd, 2011 at
09:34:22 9:30 a.m., on an ordinance making revisions to chapter
09:34:27 27 relating to Michael brewery youth.
09:34:36 Then under item 31 there's a substitution to correct a
09:34:41 minor typographical error in the original submission.
09:34:47 This is a maintenance agreement with RD Channelside.
09:34:50 That item is also being pulled and will be heard in
09:34:55 conjunction with item 47 which is a closure public
09:34:59 hearing at 10:30.
09:35:02 Item 46 cannot be heard.
09:35:05 That's a petition of greater Mount Carmel AME church.
09:35:10 The petitioner misnoticed.
09:35:13 And it has been administratively rescheduled for July
09:35:17 14, 2011 at 10:30 a.m.
09:35:22 Item 48, that public hearing be removed from the agenda
09:35:31 because it has been converted to an SU-1.
09:35:37 Item 50, 1704, that's petition for 1704 North Howard
09:35:44 Avenue cannot be heard due to misnotice.
09:35:48 The public hearing has been administratively
09:35:50 rescheduled to June 23rd, 2011 at 10:30 a.m.
09:35:58 There is also one item to be walked in by chief
09:36:03 assistant city attorney Sal Territo that has been
09:36:06 approved by the chair.
09:36:10 >>SAL TERRITO: Legal department.
09:36:12 I have been asked to submit to you a resolution calling
09:36:14 for public hearing on June 2nd at 9:30 to address
09:36:17 the projects that will be funded by the one half cent
09:36:22 sales tax.
09:36:23 That comes up every five years.
09:36:25 This is a chance for the public to comment on it.
09:36:27 The actual hearing will be on the 23rd for you to a
09:36:29 professor address that issue.
09:36:31 But this is just calling for the public hearing.
09:36:33 The list will be supplied to you on the agenda for the
09:36:38 June 2nd City Council.
09:36:39 >>MARY MULHERN: I just had a question about that, Mr.
09:36:44 Is that on the addendum to the agenda?
09:36:48 >>SAL TERRITO: It was not.
09:36:49 I found out about it this morning.
09:36:51 >>MARY MULHERN: That's not in any of our backup.
09:36:54 Okay, thanks.
09:36:54 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Can I ask a question of the clerk
09:37:03 or our attorney?
09:37:03 It's unusual all of these new business walk-ons, and I
09:37:07 know that we vote on most of these.
09:37:13 Why are we just getting these to the agenda this
09:37:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Let me answer that, if I may, since
09:37:18 I put them on.
09:37:19 Certainly, the one that Mr. Territo brought up, we can
09:37:24 put it on for further discussion so that you know
09:37:26 what's coming.
09:37:27 That's number one.
09:37:28 The others, don't forget, the last meeting in June,
09:37:33 then you go in two weeks vacation.
09:37:35 So if we don't put these on the agenda, would you not
09:37:39 have a chance to hear them until more likely late July
09:37:44 or first of August.
09:37:45 We have to have some movement of liquidity so we can
09:37:49 put these things out and everyone is brought up to
09:37:52 That's why I put them up as I did.
09:37:59 With that, I need an approval of the agenda.
09:38:02 >> Move to approve the agenda including the item for
09:38:07 June 2nd that Mr. Territo has added, the addendum
09:38:14 for the agenda, and the agenda.
09:38:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Ms. Mulhern,
09:38:20 seconded by Mr. Suarez.
09:38:23 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
09:38:26 Opposed, nay.
09:38:29 Motion passes Nall unanimously.
09:38:30 We go to public comments for 30 minutes.
09:38:33 Anyone in the public who would like to speak.
09:38:35 First of all on items that are on the agenda that are
09:38:40 not set for public hearing.
09:38:41 Anyone that would like to speak to any item on the
09:38:44 agenda that is not set for public hearing.
09:38:47 Come forward, please.
09:38:47 >> Bonjour.
09:39:01 Buenos dais.
09:39:02 We are an international city.
09:39:05 My name is Marilyn Schmitt, grandmother at-large, and I
09:39:12 speak for probably 2500 great grandmas, okay?
09:39:18 And I'm talking generations.
09:39:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Young grandmothers.
09:39:24 Very young grandmothers.
09:39:25 >> Of course, Charlie.
09:39:31 I want to talk about something serious.
09:39:33 The financial condition of the city, that's serious.
09:39:39 Consent agenda 22 where Mr. Scott is coming back on the
09:39:45 Sports Authority?
09:39:46 You have a sitting member right now, Mr. Reddick.
09:39:49 Mr. Reddick knows my subject matter because he sat
09:39:53 through my last presentation.
09:39:56 I don't think you as a council fully understand the red
09:40:00 ink that is flowing at the Tampa Sports Authority.
09:40:04 That has gone on for far too long.
09:40:08 The golf course is not the end all and be all of why a
09:40:14 city exists.
09:40:15 It's not a real necessity.
09:40:19 We have other necessities.
09:40:22 Sewer, water, et cetera.
09:40:23 I know there has to be money subsidizing this from
09:40:27 other things over there.
09:40:29 The Sports Authority.
09:40:33 You have three golf courses.
09:40:35 One of them is really going red ink.
09:40:40 The point is, there comes a time when you have to say
09:40:45 to yourself, is this for the good of everyone
09:40:50 It isn't.
09:40:51 It really and truly -- I have watched it for a long
09:40:56 time and made visit over to the Sports Authority and
09:40:58 they don't want to move on it.
09:41:00 They pretend like it's some God somewhere that we can't
09:41:03 Yes, you can.
09:41:05 We need the money elsewhere.
09:41:08 You ask yourself, why is the city competing with
09:41:11 private industry?
09:41:13 There are a lot of golf courses.
09:41:15 Almost every subdivision that goes up now has its own
09:41:18 golf course.
09:41:19 Why would you want to leave your own subdivision to go
09:41:21 play golf?
09:41:22 You already have to pay for it.
09:41:24 So what you need to understand is you look at that,
09:41:26 and, Frank, you have the agenda from the Sports
09:41:32 I think it's time to cut bait.
09:41:36 We have already been fishing for years, and it hasn't
09:41:38 returned any kind of benefit in the plus column.
09:41:42 It drags everything else down.
09:41:45 You can turn these into -- cut down the maintenance.
09:41:51 You don't have fertilizer going into the river.
09:41:54 A lot of benefits to that.
09:41:59 Keep it the same.
09:42:00 Just call it a park.
09:42:03 Really and truly, the city can't afford them.
09:42:05 And that's what I'm most concerned about.
09:42:08 Thank you very much.
09:42:08 And by the way, this is a lovely-looking council.
09:42:19 And Charlie, I'm glad to see you back, and the
09:42:23 returning member also, and the new faces are just very
09:42:27 Thank you.
09:42:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Anyone else care to speak to any
09:42:32 item on the agenda not set for public hearing?
09:42:34 Would anyone like to speak to any item off the agenda?
09:42:38 >> Thank you, Mr. Chair.
09:42:42 Grandmother at-large, I would like to thank you for
09:42:45 your diligent eye on the finances.
09:42:49 I know I used to work for Hillsborough County, and so
09:42:53 you and I have a long history together, and I know that
09:42:56 you are very diligent keeping your eye out and speaking
09:42:58 on behalf of the citizens.
09:42:59 So thank you for the work that you do.
09:43:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
09:43:04 >> Ed Tillou.
09:43:12 I'm of in Sulphur Springs.
09:43:15 I actually -- something is trance evenings to item 10,
09:43:20 but I doubt I will get to that, because I came last
09:43:23 week, and turned out to be a workshop, a redevelopment
09:43:29 Of course, there was a lot to speak about that because
09:43:31 we still have the same old planning we have had for 30
09:43:34 or 40 years.
09:43:39 There's no mention with respect to Channelside or Ybor
09:43:41 City, of public transportation, interface was public
09:43:46 But what I came to speak about with that, that I will
09:43:50 now address very quickly, is one of the Hart bus
09:43:59 drivers told me this thing where people can pass
09:44:01 through the red light has been approved by the county,
09:44:03 and it being held up here in the City Council.
09:44:05 So that needs to get a green late to have something
09:44:07 done about it.
09:44:11 What's happening is that streets that have a lot of bus
09:44:15 service of being penalized at the expense of these -- I
09:44:18 call them automobile diarrhea sleuthways that sleuth
09:44:23 cars onto freeways and things like that, and these
09:44:27 streets get five or ten minutes.
09:44:29 That's again a county issue.
09:44:30 But as I say, the solution to it is being held up here.
09:44:35 That's what one of the Hart drivers said.
09:44:40 The long-run problem is that the gas prices have gotten
09:44:44 TBT has addressed that.
09:44:52 I have another copy of this issue but it in the bag
09:44:58 P-coil means that the gas will run out 25 to 35 years.
09:45:02 It's not going to run out tomorrow or the next day.
09:45:05 But the speculators have gotten in on it.
09:45:08 Oil is a commodity.
09:45:09 Actually, food is a commodity.
09:45:11 The price of food has been increasing lately.
09:45:15 And I'm not talking one or two items five or ten cents.
09:45:19 I'm talking 20 cents, some 30, 40 cents, and that is
09:45:24 not justified by what happened.
09:45:26 But the speculators are in on it.
09:45:28 The commodities market is going wild on oil.
09:45:31 And they were held in check to an extent by Byron
09:45:37 Dorgan, the senator from North Dakota, but I think he
09:45:44 got burned out the last time around, so expect big
09:45:47 price increases.
09:45:48 And wages have gone up by a factor of five during which
09:45:52 prices have gone up by a factor of ten.
09:45:55 So the American standard of living over the past 30 to
09:45:58 40 years has been in massive decline.
09:46:03 A movie to a certain extent that addresses that is
09:46:06 called Company Men.
09:46:07 It's out at Britton Plaza 8 right now at least for
09:46:11 another two days, maybe another week.
09:46:12 It's very rare among movies, because it's returned $4
09:46:17 million on a $15 million budget which is unheard of
09:46:21 So people need to go out and see that movie because it
09:46:23 addresses what's coming down.
09:46:28 Now, someone responsible about bicycles.
09:46:30 I was amazed the other day, I saw a bicycle doing the
09:46:34 right things, and probably the people on these rides do
09:46:37 the right things, but that's not most of the bicycles.
09:46:40 (Bell sounds)
09:46:43 I have another 30 seconds.
09:46:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
09:46:49 >> That's it?
09:46:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: That's it.
09:46:51 Next, please.
09:46:52 >> David Caton, the executive director of Florida
09:47:01 Family Association.
09:47:02 Can I hand this material out?
09:47:22 May I begin?
09:47:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: You can begin.
09:47:24 >> Florida Family Association hired a private
09:47:27 investigator to look into a Tampa Police Department
09:47:31 death case.
09:47:33 And the reason why we did this is we saw there was very
09:47:37 extraordinary circumstances surrounding this woman's
09:47:41 In summary -- and this is a lot of information for to
09:47:43 you look at -- but in summary, I would urge this
09:47:46 council to look at this material which we presented to
09:47:48 the mayor as well as the state attorney and look at the
09:47:52 seriousness of the omissions of the investigation that
09:47:55 occurred here.
09:47:57 In summary, our private investigator wrote, "There's a
09:48:02 glaring absence of suspicion from the police department
09:48:05 and the medical examiner that the decedent could have
09:48:08 possibly been a victim of an assault that eventually
09:48:10 caused her death. The absence of any suspicion that
09:48:16 the decedent may have been assaulted is difficult to
09:48:19 Now, this was an Israeli Palestinian born woman, her
09:48:23 name is Petina, she lived in a house with three other
09:48:28 Muslim families, she was divorced because she could not
09:48:30 have children, she was not allowed to leave the home,
09:48:33 she had a driver's license, she is not allowed to
09:48:37 We found all this information out from a private
09:48:40 She was also allegedly abused by her brother, and then
09:48:43 suspiciously one day she is alleged to have killed
09:48:46 herself by beating her head against a coffee table.
09:48:53 This is the situation that we thought was very
09:48:55 difficult to comprehend.
09:48:58 We contacted the paramedics who were there on the
09:49:03 They said it's not plausible that this woman killed
09:49:05 herself by hitting herself on the head.
09:49:08 We asked about the medical examiner as relates to her
09:49:13 theory that the lower ribs, the five lower ribs that
09:49:16 were broken were caused by CPR.
09:49:20 Lieutenant Ashley was in Tampa rescue safety said they
09:49:26 didn't perform CPR, and those ribs would not even have
09:49:29 come into play.
09:49:32 This information that we found also, one of comments
09:49:36 that lieutenant Ashley gave our private investigator
09:49:39 was, quote, an excuse, long hers not mine, but it
09:49:43 looked like somebody beat the crap out of her.
09:49:47 The medical examiner's report, the reports are very
09:49:52 There's a lot of inconsistencies there.
09:49:54 The dispatch report states a completely different
09:49:57 statement from the person calling us to why this person
09:50:02 was dead compared to what the actual G.O. report
09:50:08 I could go down a list of blood evidence, I could go
09:50:11 down a list of -- there's contradicting stories here.
09:50:15 The long and short of this is, this is -- there is
09:50:19 glaring problems with this case, and we urge this
09:50:22 council to call on Chief Castor and Mayor Buckhorn to
09:50:28 reopen this case, and for the dignity of this woman,
09:50:31 and equal protection of the law in the United States, a
09:50:40 proper investigation be made into the death of
09:50:43 Fetima Abdallah.
09:50:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
09:50:50 It's been the practice of every council that I know of
09:50:52 that once these things are -- investigations that we do
09:50:55 not get involved because the reasons that the courts
09:50:59 and the that come before us is for the benefit of both
09:51:04 So we hear you, but we do not get involved in these
09:51:09 Thank you very much, sir.
09:51:10 >> Thank you.
09:51:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Next, please.
09:51:13 >> Chip Thomas, Henry Avenue, City of Tampa, and I
09:51:21 economic development, the workshop next weekend,
09:51:23 economic development.
09:51:24 I want to throw out a couple of ideas today about that.
09:51:27 And maybe for the mid to long-term prospect, the most
09:51:31 important thing that you can do -- and it may not make
09:51:34 sense on the surface -- is to make Tampa an easy place
09:51:37 to live car-free.
09:51:38 And what does that have to do with economic
09:51:41 Well, every person who can live without a car, several
09:51:46 thousand dollars more every year that they didn't have
09:51:50 when they had to own a car.
09:51:52 And when you have 30, 40, 50% population that can live
09:51:57 car-free that can't help but make for a stronger local
09:52:00 The second part of this is, from aging boomers to young
09:52:05 urban professionals to working class and middle class
09:52:08 who are struggling with all kind of payment, the
09:52:10 financial burdens of the cars are really becoming a
09:52:14 And I think people are more and more going to be
09:52:16 looking for places where they can live car-free.
09:52:18 And I am not just talking about downtown.
09:52:20 I mean city limit, city-wide.
09:52:22 And so there's going to be not only desire, but a need
09:52:26 to have a car-free lifestyle.
09:52:30 And I think the places that accommodate this are really
09:52:36 going to thrive and prosper in the in the future and
09:52:38 the places that don't are really going to have
09:52:40 And this is going to require cooperation with Hart and
09:52:42 the county and mass transit, and the zip-car like
09:52:49 There's seven cities, I think, where the cities are
09:52:51 actually operating their own car sharing services.
09:52:54 You can tap into Buffalo and Burlington and Chicago and
09:52:57 see how they are dock.
09:52:58 The second thing is the local currency.
09:53:02 And you can check and see how that's working, but
09:53:07 basically you pay maybe $100 and you get $110 in Tampa
09:53:12 currency that you can only use in locally-owned
09:53:16 And this is a very good way of keeping money at home,
09:53:18 because every time you spend a dollar at a national
09:53:22 chain or franchise or big box retailer, 30, 40% of
09:53:27 that, I forget what that figure is, goes to corporate
09:53:30 headquarters to pay for executive salaries and
09:53:32 administrative costs and shareholder dividends.
09:53:34 So local currency, I think, we are going to see a lot
09:53:38 more of that in the future.
09:53:39 It's also a bit of a protection against what many think
09:53:41 is a very vulnerable U.S. currency.
09:53:45 For the midterm, there's a lot of talk about increasing
09:53:48 incentives and lowering taxes to attract businesses.
09:53:50 I think this is a dangerous path to go down.
09:53:53 When we start competing against the county, and
09:53:56 St. Pete and Pinellas County, it becomes a big limbo
09:54:00 contest, who can go the lowest for taxes and offer the
09:54:03 most breaks for new businesses.
09:54:05 What happened to this bay area being such a great place
09:54:07 to live?
09:54:09 Let's sell the city based on the quality of life that
09:54:12 we have here.
09:54:13 Sometimes you get what you pay for.
09:54:15 And I think that's the case with new businesses.
09:54:18 So don't get into this competition thing where we give
09:54:23 away everything.
09:54:25 And I think I'm out of time so I'll come back another
09:54:29 Thank you.
09:54:30 >> My name is Ingrid Smith.
09:54:38 I reside in the City of Tampa at 5605 -- and I realize
09:54:43 I may not be here so when the gardens issue come up but
09:54:49 I would like to thank you for supporting the process
09:54:52 and hope that will continue so we can have our gardens,
09:54:54 southeast Seminole Heights had a meeting this week and
09:54:57 they are looking forward to finally breaking ground on
09:55:00 There is a bias right now towards local sustainability,
09:55:04 trying to go car free.
09:55:11 I just want to thank you, and please continue
09:55:14 supporting it.
09:55:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
09:55:17 Would anyone else care to speak to any item on the
09:55:19 agenda not set for a public hearing? And that means on
09:55:23 the agenda.
09:55:25 I see none.
09:55:26 I need a request from anyone in the public who would
09:55:29 like to have a request of legislative matters of the
09:55:32 previous meeting.
09:55:34 I see none.
09:55:36 We go to committee reports, if I may.
09:55:39 Public Safety Committee, Mr. Frank Reddick.
09:55:42 >>FRANK REDDICK: Move items 5 through 9.
09:55:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a second by council member
09:56:01 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
09:56:04 Opposed, nay.
09:56:05 The Ayes have it unanimously.
09:56:07 Park, recreation, culture committee.
09:56:12 >>MARY MULHERN: I move items 10 through 12.
09:56:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Seconded by Ms. Capin.
09:56:23 All in favor?
09:56:24 The Ayes have it unanimously.
09:56:25 Public Works Committee, Mr. Suarez.
09:56:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I move agenda items 13 through 17.
09:56:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Seconded by the honorable Mr. Frank
09:56:38 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
09:56:41 Opposed, nay.
09:56:42 The Ayes have it unanimously.
09:56:49 Finance Committee, Mr. Harry Cohen.
09:56:50 >> Move 18 through 22.
09:56:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Seconded by Ms. Mulhern.
09:56:56 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
09:57:00 Opposed nay.
09:57:03 The Ayes have it unanimously.
09:57:05 Lisa Montelione.
09:57:06 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I love items 13 through, I believe,
09:57:16 Oh, I'm sorry that was public works.
09:57:23 I move items 23 through 36.
09:57:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Second by Mrs. Mulhern.
09:57:30 Oh, we are going to hold number 31, held for
09:57:36 presentation with item 47.
09:57:37 Thank you very much, sir.
09:57:39 All in favor of that motion Mrs. Montelione, second by
09:57:42 Mrs. Mulhern, please indicate by saying Aye.
09:57:45 Opposed, nay.
09:57:45 The Ayes have it unanimously.
09:57:49 Transportation committee, the honorable Yolie cap peen.
09:57:54 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you, chairman.
09:57:54 I move item 37 through 39.
09:57:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Second by Mr. Cohen.
09:57:59 All in favor of the motion, please indicate by saying
09:58:02 Opposed, nay.
09:58:03 The ayes have it unanimously.
09:58:06 All right.
09:58:06 Item number 40 is a quasi-judicial proceeding.
09:58:19 Clerk, will you swear them in, please?
09:58:22 (Oath administered by Clerk)
09:58:29 Any items on this item 40 that have had any
09:58:32 presentation to this council or to the clerk's office,
09:58:36 I need a motion to receive and file those items.
09:58:39 I have a motion by Mrs. Mulhern, seconded by Mr.
09:58:43 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
09:58:47 Opposed, nay.
09:58:49 Yes, sir?
09:58:49 >> Is it possible to make that applicable to all the
09:58:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I only opened 40.
09:58:54 When I open the others I will dot.
09:58:56 Thank you very much.
09:58:56 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land Development Coordination.
09:59:01 This item is a second reading on a rezoning that could
09:59:05 not be certified on May 5th.
09:59:09 The plans were submitted uncertified by the zoning
09:59:12 administrator and provided to the clerk.
09:59:13 So the case can move forward for second reading.
09:59:16 Thank you.
09:59:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Is petitioner here?
09:59:20 Is it ready for second hearing, you said?
09:59:23 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Yes, it is ready for second hearing.
09:59:27 I don't believe the petitioner is here this morning.
09:59:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: But it did pass the first time.
09:59:41 Anyone in the audience to speak for or against be? I
09:59:43 see no one.
09:59:44 Motion by Mr. Reddick, second by Mrs. Mulhern.
09:59:47 All in favor?
09:59:47 The Ayes have it unanimously. We go left to right this
09:59:50 Item number 40.
09:59:52 Mrs. Montelione.
09:59:53 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Item 40, an ordinance for second
09:59:57 reading and adoption, an ordinance rezoning property in
09:59:59 the general vicinity of 5109 and 5111 north has been
10:00:05 ban a Avenue in the city of Tampa, Florida and more
10:00:07 particularly described in section 1 from zoning
10:00:10 district classifications RS-50 residential
10:00:14 single-family to PD planned development, office,
10:00:16 medical and all commercial neighborhood uses with the
10:00:19 exception of restaurant and personal services,
10:00:22 providing an effective date.
10:00:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mrs. Montelione,
10:00:26 seconded by Mrs. Mulhern.
10:00:28 This is a presentation for second reading and adoption.
10:00:31 Roll call and vote.
10:00:42 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
10:00:44 >> Thank you.
10:00:46 Now we go to the 9:30 public hearings.
10:00:48 I need a motion to open 41.
10:00:50 And 41 through 42.
10:00:54 Let's open the rest of them that are set for public
10:00:56 Those that are also at 10:00, and there's some that are
10:01:00 set possibly as far back as 10:30 in the morning.
10:01:03 Need a motion to open the public hearings.
10:01:07 Also I have a motion to open by Mrs. Capin, seconded by
10:01:12 Mr. Reddick.
10:01:13 All in favor?
10:01:14 The Ayes have it unanimously.
10:01:15 I need a motion to receive and file all the documents
10:01:18 I have a motion made by Mr. Suarez to the clerk's
10:01:22 office, second by Mrs. Mulhern.
10:01:25 All in favor?
10:01:26 Opposed nay?
10:01:29 The Ayes have it unanimously.
10:01:32 Quasi-judicial to be sworn for the remaining Democrats
10:01:35 on the agenda.
10:01:35 The clerk will swear you in.
10:01:36 (Oath administered by Clerk)
10:01:49 Item 41.
10:01:57 No one is here for 41?
10:02:00 >> Hugh Martinson for sacks and Gilmore representing
10:02:09 Tampa Housing Authority.
10:02:10 I thought Barbara Lynch might have been here to present
10:02:13 But this is on second reading.
10:02:14 We do appreciate council's consideration of this
10:02:18 It's a vacation of some old alleyway, rights-of-way
10:02:21 that need to be taken care of that would be
10:02:23 incorporated with the larger Encore development that's
10:02:25 going on.
10:02:26 Again, we appreciate council's consideration of this
10:02:29 and taking action on it.
10:02:30 Thank you.
10:02:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
10:02:33 Does anyone in the audience care to speak on item 41?
10:02:36 I see no one.
10:02:38 Need a motion to close.
10:02:39 Motion by Mrs. Capin, seconded by Mrs. Mulhern to
10:02:44 The Ayes have it unanimously.
10:02:45 Mr. Cohen?
10:02:49 >>MIKE COHEN: Move an ordinance vacating, closing,
10:02:50 discontinuing, and abandoning a certain right-of-way
10:02:54 all that alley lying south of India street north of
10:02:58 Cass Avenue, east of governor street and west of
10:03:00 Nebraska Avenue, in MUGGE's subdivision, a subdivision
10:03:04 in the City of Tampa, Hillsborough County Florida the
10:03:06 same being more fully described in section 2 hereof
10:03:08 subject to certain covenants, conditions and
10:03:10 restrictions as more particularly described herein,
10:03:13 providing an effective date.
10:03:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: That is Mr. Cohen's motion presented
10:03:17 for second reading and adoption.
10:03:19 Any further discussion by council members?
10:03:22 Vote and record.
10:03:24 I need a second.
10:03:25 Seconded by Mrs. Mulhern.
10:03:28 Motion by Mr. Cohen.
10:03:30 Vote and record.
10:03:30 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
10:03:45 >> Item number 42.
10:03:49 >>STEVE MICHELINI: This is a couple of alleys that are
10:04:00 unimproved that run through property owners property,
10:04:04 they are unimproved, and there's also a hiatus
10:04:07 associated with the alleys.
10:04:10 It's second reading and respectfully request your
10:04:12 continued support on this for approval.
10:04:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Would anyone in the audience care to
10:04:18 speak on this item number 42?
10:04:21 I see no one.
10:04:22 I need a motion to close.
10:04:26 Motion by Mr. Mulhern, second by Mrs. Mulhern.
10:04:31 Motion made by Mr. Cohen, I should say.
10:04:34 All in favor indicate by saying Aye.
10:04:35 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:04:39 Ms. Mulhern, would you take item 42?
10:04:42 >>MARY MULHERN: Move an ordinance presented for second
10:04:45 reading and adoption, vacating, closing, discontinuing,
10:04:47 abandoning a certain right-of-way alleyway and hiatus
10:04:51 lying south of Yukon street, north of arctic street,
10:04:54 west of Nebraska Avenue and east of Arden Avenue, in
10:04:57 map of subdivision at Sulphur Springs near Tampa,
10:05:00 Florida and Spring Hill subdivision, subdivisions in
10:05:03 the City of Tampa, Hillsborough County Florida the same
10:05:04 being more fully described in section 2 hereof subject
10:05:07 to certain covenants, conditions and restrictions as
10:05:09 more particularly described herein, providing an
10:05:11 effective date.
10:05:12 >> Second.
10:05:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: This is present for second reading
10:05:22 and adoption.
10:05:23 Anyone care to speak on this item again?
10:05:25 >> Good morning again.
10:05:33 Marilyn Smith.
10:05:34 I didn't get sworn in.
10:05:35 Do you need to swear me in?
10:05:40 (Oath administered by Clerk)
10:05:43 Yes, I do, and I always do.
10:05:45 Thank you.
10:05:46 I would like to talk on behalf of community gardens.
10:05:51 They are a very good thing.
10:05:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: This is not community gardens.
10:05:55 >> Oh, I'm sorry.
10:05:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: You can speak on the next one so you
10:05:59 are right on target.
10:06:00 >> 43.
10:06:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: No, 42.
10:06:07 I'm not 43, I'm 42.
10:06:09 >> Can I come back for 43?
10:06:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: You certainly can.
10:06:13 I have a motion made by Mrs. Mulhern for adoption on
10:06:17 the second reading.
10:06:18 Seconded by Mr. Cohen.
10:06:21 Vote and record.
10:06:21 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
10:06:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Item number 43.
10:06:40 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Zoning administrator for the city.
10:06:42 Jest so you know on the addendum for the agenda, the
10:06:45 Resolution for the community gardens is $200.
10:06:49 I believe you approved the addendum already.
10:06:51 This is the second reading for community gardens
10:06:52 present as a special use 1.
10:06:55 If there's any questions, I'm available.
10:06:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Any questions?
10:06:59 Mrs. Mulhern?
10:07:02 >>MARY MULHERN: (off microphone) this is the
10:07:05 Do we need to also read the item that was on the
10:07:12 Or we already approved that?
10:07:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: No, we have to read that as part of
10:07:16 the ordinance.
10:07:17 Anyone care to speak to number 43?
10:07:19 >> Thank you, chair.
10:07:27 Being sworn in, I will continue.
10:07:28 Community gardens.
10:07:31 They are a very big thing and we need to keep it
10:07:38 Take a hint from New York City.
10:07:40 They have done this in New York City and turned some
10:07:44 horrible sites into very productive -- and that's only
10:07:53 some of the benefits that come up to cleaning up the
10:07:56 They have parks in the middle of the cities much more
10:07:59 than they ever have before and now they have green
10:08:01 growing food-bearing plants.
10:08:04 What's wrong with that?
10:08:06 Let's just put that in there every chance we get.
10:08:08 Thank you.
10:08:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Next, please.
10:08:12 >> I'm kitty Wallace.
10:08:15 I live in the City of Tampa, 4902 Collins lane, and I'm
10:08:19 the community garden chairperson for the Tampa garden
10:08:22 And I have been actively involved with organizers from
10:08:25 the other gardens and developing a Hillsborough
10:08:29 community gardening network.
10:08:31 So far, it's up and running quite well, and we are
10:08:34 intending on staying right on top of support systems
10:08:38 such as the network that we formed.
10:08:40 We have a Facebook page and a Web site, and worry
10:08:43 following the American community gardening guidelines
10:08:47 as it relates to gardening guidelines for each
10:08:50 community garden.
10:08:52 Those are things that we take on as responsibilities
10:08:56 when we garden in a public place, that we will keep it
10:09:01 well organized, well maintained, and that there will be
10:09:05 no interruption of the other private owners, uses of
10:09:11 their property, that it will be a well-run endeavor.
10:09:15 And I just want to let you know that is up and running,
10:09:18 and we appreciate your support.
10:09:19 Thank you.
10:09:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
10:09:21 Anyone else in the audience care to speak?
10:09:26 On item 43 we need a motion to close.
10:09:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: So moved.
10:09:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mr. Suarez.
10:09:33 Second by Mrs. Mulhern.
10:09:34 All in favor of the motion indicate by saying Aye.
10:09:37 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:09:38 Ms. Mulhern works you kindly take number 43?
10:09:41 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
10:09:43 And I just want to thank all of the community gardeners
10:09:46 and land use and legal that steered this through.
10:09:52 And we are going to have to have a big garden party one
10:09:55 of these days to celebrate this.
10:10:02 Do I need to read it?
10:10:05 I move an ordinance being presented for second reading
10:10:07 and adoption, an ordinance of the city of Tampa,
10:10:10 Florida making comprehensive revisions to City of Tampa
10:10:12 code of ordinances chapter 27, zoning, relating to
10:10:15 community gardens, amending section 27-77 official
10:10:19 schedule of district regulations, amending section
10:10:22 27-177, historic district established, amending section
10:10:26 27-242, number of off-street parking spaces, amending
10:10:32 section 27-267, classes of special use permits, agent
10:10:36 or body responsible for each general procedure,
10:10:39 amending section 27-272, regular -- regulations
10:10:43 governing individual special uses, amending section
10:10:46 27-438, official schedule of permitted principal,
10:10:50 accessory and special uses, amending section 27-452,
10:10:55 official schedule of permitted principal, accessory and
10:10:58 speaks uses, amending section 27-545, definitions,
10:11:02 repealing all ordinances or parts of ordinances in
10:11:04 conflict therewith, providing for severability,
10:11:07 providing an effective date.
10:11:07 >> I have a motion on item 43 by Mrs. Mulhern, a second
10:11:12 by Mrs. Capin.
10:11:14 Vote and record.
10:11:16 For second reading.
10:11:17 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
10:11:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: We go now to the 10:00 public
10:11:31 These are also quasi-judicial.
10:11:33 Anyone in the audience who has come in late who would
10:11:35 like to speak on the remainder of these items, you are
10:11:38 going to be sworn in.
10:11:41 Item 44 is up as the historic preservation property tax
10:11:50 >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: Historic preservation, urban design
10:11:51 manager here on item number 44.
10:11:53 This is a property tax exemption for a historically
10:11:58 designated property in Ybor City, national and local
10:12:00 historic district.
10:12:03 Just a few photos.
10:12:08 This is the subject property located originally on the
10:12:11 corner of 12th street and 14th Avenue.
10:12:15 This property was relocated as a result of interstate
10:12:20 expansion by the FDOT which relocated to a city owned
10:12:24 lot, and then sold to a private individual.
10:12:28 This was originally a corner grocery store, very
10:12:31 characteristic type of building in use in the historic
10:12:35 It had been stuccoed over at some point in the past,
10:12:39 was originally built in 1908, and just see a peak
10:12:46 behind it.
10:12:47 There was a small brick warehouse as well.
10:12:48 This is a photo of the structure relocated.
10:12:51 The site on the corner of Columbus drive and 10th
10:12:57 You see the small warehouse also being relocated.
10:13:03 And then the parcels on the new site, at the receiving
10:13:06 site on the corner.
10:13:07 The modifications to this particular structure were
10:13:10 reviewed by the Barrio Latino commission.
10:13:13 The current owners wish to bring the building back to
10:13:16 its original appearance, remove the stucco, and
10:13:19 rehabilitate the interior.
10:13:21 You see that very extensive work going on at that
10:13:26 This is a photo of the project today.
10:13:28 You see that the entire siding of the building has been
10:13:33 replaced, the balcony has been reconstructed, the
10:13:36 storefront reestablished and the small warehouse
10:13:39 restored in the background.
10:13:42 This is a picture of the interior with the original
10:13:45 rafts relocate add long with the structure.
10:13:47 As I said, this was originally a grocery store.
10:13:51 And you see the post rehabilitation picture there with
10:13:56 bread rack still in place used as a shelf and offices
10:13:59 now occupy being the building as a use.
10:14:01 The balcony before and after the restoration.
10:14:10 Portion of the second-floor apartments prior to the
10:14:15 And then after the rehabilitation.
10:14:17 And just one last interior shot of the warehouse space
10:14:21 prior to the rehabilitation and after the
10:14:28 This property as I said was constructed in 1908 with
10:14:31 the warehouse structure constructed in 1938.
10:14:36 They are both listed on the national register of
10:14:40 historic places and on the local registry of historic
10:14:43 The application is consistent with the secretary of
10:14:45 interior standards for rehabilitation and does meet the
10:14:49 requirements of the department of state for the
10:14:51 historic property tax exemption.
10:14:53 And we are glad to support this particular application
10:14:57 for the exemption.
10:14:58 It is well deserved.
10:14:59 Thank you.
10:15:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Council members, any discussion?
10:15:03 >>MARY MULHERN: That's amazing you moved that huge
10:15:06 build being.
10:15:06 We could like move City Hall.
10:15:10 [ Laughter ]
10:15:11 My one question, you restored the facade with siding?
10:15:21 >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: Originally there was siding and at
10:15:22 some point most likely in the '40s or 50s an
10:15:27 individual exposed the stucco. That was always a sided
10:15:32 building, and unfortunately the stuccoing accelerates
10:15:36 the deterioration of the wood underneath.
10:15:38 >>MARY MULHERN: It's beautiful.
10:15:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Any questions by council members?
10:15:42 If I remember correctly not only was that what you said
10:15:46 a grocery store, on top there was apartments, and there
10:15:48 was a gentleman which means mustache in English, and
10:15:57 his sons and I grew up together so I remember that just
10:15:59 across the street from that building was the address of
10:16:02 former council member Eddie Caballero.
10:16:07 Ended up building across the street.
10:16:09 Thank you very much.
10:16:09 So much for history.
10:16:13 Mr. Reddick, please, item number 43.
10:16:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: Move an ordinance being present for
10:16:20 first reading.
10:16:21 An ordinance approving historic preservation of
10:16:24 approximate tax exemption application relative to the
10:16:26 restoration, renovation, and rehabilitation, property
10:16:30 owned by Peter Murphy and chase Clark locate at 1001
10:16:36 east Columbus drive and 2605 north 10th street
10:16:39 formerly 1021 14th Avenue, Tampa, Florida in the
10:16:44 Ybor City local historic district based upon certain
10:16:47 findings providing for notice to the property appraiser
10:16:50 of Hillsborough County providing for severability,
10:16:52 providing for repeal of all ordinances in conflict,
10:16:54 providing an effective date.
10:16:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mr. Reddick, second by, I
10:16:58 think, Mrs. Montelione -- you have to speak louder
10:17:04 because I'm getting deaf.
10:17:06 All in favor of the motion indicate by saying Aye.
10:17:08 Opposed, nay.
10:17:09 The Ayes have it unanimously.
10:17:11 >>THE CLERK: Second reading of the ordinance will be
10:17:13 held June 2nd at 9:30 a.m.
10:17:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I believe the next part of the
10:17:22 agenda is complete -- that part of the agenda is
10:17:25 We need item number 44.
10:17:28 That was 44?
10:17:30 I thought -- okay.
10:17:31 We go to item number 45.
10:17:33 That's the presentation on the update.
10:17:37 On revenues.
10:17:38 >> Good morning.
10:17:45 Sonya Little, the city's CFO.
10:17:49 I appreciate the opportunity to be here this morning.
10:17:50 And our staff in particular has done a very good job in
10:17:59 presenting and preparing for council to review the
10:18:02 six-month update on the city's revenues and
10:18:06 With that, I would like to turn it over to Mr. Ruggero
10:18:10 so he can walk you through our presentation today.
10:18:12 >> Thank you.
10:18:17 Good morning.
10:18:20 Finance department.
10:18:21 Thank you for taking the time today and taking time in
10:18:25 the previous days to hear us brief this item for you.
10:18:29 Do I have the PowerPoint up?
10:18:34 Thank you.
10:18:41 I want to give you an idea of what's forthcoming for
10:18:45 next year.
10:18:45 Part of it, of course, is explaining to you what we
10:18:48 think is going to happen for the remainder of this year
10:18:51 and bringing you up to date on what has happened so far
10:18:55 and we are scheduling as we speak almost some workshops
10:18:57 for the next month and in July.
10:18:59 We are meeting some challenges there associated with
10:19:01 scheduling, but I think we'll get there.
10:19:06 Plans the mayor plans to present his budget for the
10:19:09 next fiscal year at the end of next month, month after
10:19:14 that, July 28th.
10:19:15 Following that our typical state mandated public
10:19:17 hearings in early and late September.
10:19:19 Again those are tentative.
10:19:20 There's a couple of conditions that we and other local
10:19:23 governments have to meet.
10:19:28 If we could talk momentarily about the walk-on item
10:19:31 that we discussed a little earlier, the continuation of
10:19:33 the community investment tax.
10:19:35 Again, this was implemented in 1996 for a period
10:19:38 potentially of 30 years to be reviewed and approved
10:19:41 every five years.
10:19:43 We are on a tight time frame to accommodate the
10:19:46 It has to be to the Board of County Commissioners by
10:19:48 the end of next month.
10:19:49 That's our reason for requesting the public hearing,
10:19:52 the initial phase from the City Council's perspective
10:19:55 at the beginning of next month, and then sometime
10:19:59 toward the end of next month final action by City
10:20:01 Council after we have had a chance to get public input.
10:20:10 Moving along to the overview, we are going to get in
10:20:14 two primary parts, the general and utility tax fund,
10:20:17 and the enterprise funds.
10:20:19 Again, the general utility tax funds, pretty much most
10:20:22 of what the city does outside of those agencies that
10:20:25 are run like a business, which are the enterprise
10:20:27 funds, parking, solid waste, waste water, and water.
10:20:33 A short and very brief economic outlook as we look
10:20:36 ahead to preparing next year's budget.
10:20:38 This originates with the University of Central Florida.
10:20:40 I guess I have described it mostly as cautious
10:20:45 Very slight growth anticipated with anticipated
10:20:49 continuation of the relatively high unemployment rate,
10:20:52 and a relatively small annual average increase
10:20:56 anticipated for annual wages.
10:20:59 So perhaps something to ask, perhaps we bottomed out
10:21:03 and are on the road to a slight recovery, or at least
10:21:06 some of the breaks associated with the economic
10:21:08 downturn have been put on, but it is optimistic at the
10:21:12 very least, it's cautious optimism.
10:21:15 And we will speak a little more about that as we go
10:21:17 through the presentation.
10:21:20 Just to give you a bird's-eye view of our general fund
10:21:23 and just a minute tax fund revenues based on Wan we
10:21:25 project versus what we budgeted.
10:21:27 The good news is we are on target.
10:21:29 As you can see, very, very similar.
10:21:31 We think we are going to end this year pretty much how
10:21:33 we started from a revenue perspective.
10:21:36 That's the good news.
10:21:37 We have some less good news to share with you during
10:21:40 this presentation which we'll get into.
10:21:43 But I do want to highlight at least we are consistent
10:21:46 so far with what we thought would happen.
10:21:51 From an expenditure perspective, again we are doing
10:21:54 better than anticipated.
10:21:56 You can see from this slide about $5 million less than
10:21:58 the general fund and utility tax fund.
10:22:01 Than we anticipated.
10:22:02 That's primarily associated with almost $3 million
10:22:06 worth of savings in personnel, primarily associated
10:22:09 with vacancies.
10:22:11 Being very aggressive, and in reviewing any requests
10:22:14 for those relatively few vacant positions that exist
10:22:18 compared to how many have existed in the past.
10:22:21 Again, over the course of the last three or four years
10:22:23 we have eliminated almost 700 positions.
10:22:26 So those remaining vacancies get a very, very high
10:22:30 level of scrutiny before we are approving to fill them.
10:22:33 Thus the savings so far in the anticipate savings for
10:22:36 the rest of the year.
10:22:37 On that same note, being very aggressive in our
10:22:40 oversight and monitoring of operating expenses, you can
10:22:43 see from this slide about is .5 million we anticipate
10:22:47 saving through the rest of the year as a result of that
10:22:52 And not insignificant savings associated with utility
10:22:56 tax debt service.
10:23:02 We put this slide before council before, and I believe
10:23:04 we have spoken to the before.
10:23:05 First let me say, we are not recommending any increase
10:23:09 to the millage rate nor the part of any of our solution
10:23:12 scenarios as we prepare next year's budget.
10:23:16 But we do want to put the millage rate and the
10:23:20 associated property tax revenue in context for City
10:23:22 Council and for the viewing audience
10:23:25 The long and the short of it is, as property values
10:23:28 decrease -- and they are anticipated to decrease -- the
10:23:31 property tax revenue is going to decrease also if the
10:23:34 tax rate remains the same.
10:23:36 And this is primarily for illustration purposes.
10:23:40 There's a lot more that goes into identifying a millage
10:23:43 for fiscal year.
10:23:44 But as you can see here, keeping the millage rate the
10:23:46 same with our anticipated decline results in less
10:23:49 revenue, and you can see a little bit better the
10:23:52 conditions associated with increasing the property tax
10:24:03 Before we go to the next slide, I will endeavor to keep
10:24:05 this presentation as brief as possible but I'm here as
10:24:08 long as you will have me and I'm happy to answer
10:24:11 I want to talk a little about the fund balance and the
10:24:14 general fund and utility tax.
10:24:16 From a historical perspective, we are having a very
10:24:20 strong fund balance.
10:24:21 That's good news.
10:24:22 You can see we have had a slight -- a more than slight
10:24:25 decline going into this year as we used a significant
10:24:27 amount of $30 million to balance the current year
10:24:31 But you can see from an historical perspective we are
10:24:35 very, very strong.
10:24:36 You can also see there was a time when we were not
10:24:40 meeting our own policy of 20% fund balance.
10:24:44 And that's 20% of anticipated expenditures.
10:24:47 Our expenditures are approximately $400 million.
10:24:50 So we continue to be and we project will stay well in
10:24:54 excess of our fund balance through this year.
10:24:57 That's a nice solid foundation to address the
10:24:59 challenges we have this year is difficult and
10:25:03 impossible to sustain for the long-term as we address
10:25:06 challenges in fiscal year 12 and beyond.
10:25:12 A bird's-eye view of our general fund revenues, and
10:25:15 mostly, give you and the viewing audience who our heavy
10:25:20 hitters are in terms of funding sources.
10:25:22 In the upper right hand corner, property taxes.
10:25:24 This is our single largest revenue source that we rely
10:25:28 upon, and that's why property values and the tax rate
10:25:32 is so important from a funding perspective.
10:25:34 You can also see TECO franchise fees, a very large
10:25:38 component at the bottom of your screen.
10:25:41 In the upper right two very large components.
10:25:43 Again our use of fund balance of $30 million to balance
10:25:46 the budget, and our reliance upon a transfer from the
10:25:50 utility tax revenues.
10:25:51 Almost $37 million.
10:25:55 We take those revenues and break them down at a little
10:25:58 more detail for you here.
10:26:01 As we show what we budget in the current year, how the
10:26:04 performance has gone for the first six months and how
10:26:06 we anticipate the performance will be for the next six
10:26:09 months and of course at the bottom of your screen,
10:26:14 again from a revenue perspective, we think we are going
10:26:17 to do about $3 million better than anticipated.
10:26:21 That's good.
10:26:21 If you look a little further down, however, you will
10:26:26 see in parenthesis the $29,456,000.
10:26:31 That's the bad news.
10:26:32 Although we budgeted $33 million of fund balance to
10:26:35 balance the budget, we are still going to use, we
10:26:39 anticipate, almost $30 million.
10:26:41 So though we balanced the budget, we think it will
10:26:44 continue to be balanced in the current year, anytime
10:26:47 you have to use that significant amount of funding to
10:26:50 balance your budget is not a good thing, and as I said
10:26:54 it simply cannot be sustained in the long-term.
10:27:02 A couple of our relatively lesser revenues.
10:27:05 Some of them are indicative of the economy as a whole.
10:27:08 And the first one is building permit fees.
10:27:10 The good news, it continues to perform, and we think
10:27:14 will stay on track with what we anticipated.
10:27:17 It's been as high as over $7 million in the past, but
10:27:21 it has also come in less than anticipate in the past.
10:27:25 We view as relatively confident that it staying the
10:27:31 The payment in lieu of taxes and in payment in lieu of
10:27:35 franchise fees, not only is it a significant revenue
10:27:38 source for the general fund, but those are payments
10:27:41 made by our own departments, primarily the utilities
10:27:45 for services that the general government provides.
10:27:58 Occupational licenses, about $11 million, but it's
10:28:01 there to reiterate the fact that we closely -- we came
10:28:05 very close to losing about $3 million of that this year
10:28:09 due to legislative action.
10:28:12 At the last minute they put a grandfather clause in
10:28:14 there that hold us and other localities harmless but we
10:28:18 came very close to losing $3 million, and $3 million is
10:28:22 a significant burden to bear.
10:28:24 And you can see our relatively lesser revenues total,
10:28:28 almost $50 million.
10:28:37 Let me give you a couple of graphic representations to
10:28:39 give you a historic perspective and I think this
10:28:41 picture says it all on property taxes.
10:28:44 And we are not alone by any means.
10:28:46 We have had to bear a very large burden with our
10:28:49 property tax revenues declining associated with many,
10:28:53 many events, primarily recently the reduction in
10:28:57 property values.
10:28:58 But also result of legislative action back in 2008
10:29:03 wherein we were compelled to reduce our tax rate 10%.
10:29:08 And then the passage of amendment 1 in 2009 which
10:29:12 further impacted our property tax revenue.
10:29:15 So again, I just want to put it into context where now
10:29:19 at a level lower than we received in 2005.
10:29:22 And this again from the revenue source that we rely
10:29:28 most upon.
10:29:28 It's been a very difficult journey for us and many
10:29:32 other localities.
10:29:36 Here is another graphic depicting the potential revenue
10:29:39 that this city could have had, had those previous
10:29:42 events not occurred.
10:29:43 Again going from a high of 166 million to about 122
10:29:48 million this year, and we anticipate even less revenue
10:29:52 next year.
10:30:00 Turning to another revenues, the TECO franchise fee, it
10:30:05 appears to be stabilizing on an overall basis.
10:30:07 The bad news is it's not performing quite as well as we
10:30:10 anticipated this year.
10:30:12 You can see the red line is our projection and the
10:30:14 number boxed.
10:30:16 If it's red you will see throughout these graphs that
10:30:19 means it bad, green is good.
10:30:20 Primarily, it's not doing as well as we thought because
10:30:23 of a rebate given by TECO in November of last year.
10:30:29 It's unanticipated as we adopted the budget and having
10:30:32 an effect.
10:30:33 This is a franchise fee based on the users' bill.
10:30:36 Of course as the amount of the bill goes down the
10:30:38 amount of revenue associated with this fee goes down.
10:30:45 Sales tax again from a historical perspective.
10:30:48 You can see we have seen a significant, significant
10:30:50 decline in this very major revenue.
10:30:54 The relatively good news, I would say, is based on last
10:30:57 year's actuals.
10:30:58 We see a slight increase but again it is not performing
10:31:01 quite as well as we anticipated either.
10:31:04 Again from a historical perspective, a significant,
10:31:07 significant hit to our revenues.
10:31:16 As you can see, typically trends from sales taxes based
10:31:19 on economic sales activity, and it, too, has gone down
10:31:23 Perhaps it's reaching a stabilization point, but again
10:31:26 slightly underperforming compared to what we
10:31:33 The convention center is actually the other way.
10:31:37 This is one of our few bright points we have to offer
10:31:40 you, performing well in excess of what we thought, and
10:31:45 we expect this to continue into fiscal year 12
10:31:48 especially with the arrival of the Republican national
10:31:52 So what we are gaining this year, what we anticipate to
10:31:56 gain this year is basically carrying the burden of
10:31:58 those other major revenues you saw which are declining.
10:32:05 And again, building permit fees.
10:32:07 You can see in fiscal year '06 almost $7 million.
10:32:12 Previous to that it was over $7 million.
10:32:14 It looks like perhaps it has stabilized but not quite,
10:32:18 performing as we foresaw.
10:32:23 Turning to our general fund expenditures again, you see
10:32:25 the pie graph, again a bird's-eye view of where that
10:32:29 $371 million goes.
10:32:32 And you can see probably not a surprise to many, public
10:32:35 safety services form over half of those expenditures.
10:32:38 Parks and recreation again, another significant slice
10:32:42 of that pie, and public works are all tolled over 75%
10:32:47 of this $371 million to five departments.
10:32:53 So there's a relatively large burden associated with
10:32:58 very few departments.
10:33:00 We take those expenditure figures from the pie chart
10:33:03 and we break it down by category here.
10:33:05 You can see personnel operating in some of our grants
10:33:08 and transfer commitments.
10:33:10 Two main reasons to show you this slide, just to
10:33:13 reiterate the fact that when we are talking about the
10:33:15 general fund expenditures, you are overwhelmingly
10:33:18 talking about personal expenses, the costs of employing
10:33:23 Towards the bottom right of that slide you can see
10:33:25 again our expenses are coming in better than
10:33:28 That's going to help us as we address the challenges
10:33:30 this year.
10:33:31 Almost $4 million.
10:33:37 And here again, a little more detailed general fund
10:33:41 expenditures by the major departments you saw on that
10:33:43 pie chart.
10:33:43 Public safety.
10:33:44 Parks and rec.
10:33:46 Public works.
10:33:48 How they have done for the first six months and where
10:33:50 we think they are going to head for the next six
10:33:55 Turning from the general fund to the utility tax,
10:33:58 talking about the utility tax revenues.
10:34:00 Here you see the primary revenues associated with that
10:34:04 TECO utility tax, the communications services tax, the
10:34:08 water utility tax.
10:34:11 Again I will reiterate this at least once more during
10:34:13 this presentation.
10:34:14 You can see over $60 million of revenue received with
10:34:18 the majority of it going to the general fund.
10:34:23 The other thing I want to point out at the bottom right
10:34:26 the revenues for the utility tax in contrast to the
10:34:29 general fund revenues are not performing quite as well
10:34:31 as we thought to the tune before $3 million.
10:34:34 For the most part, it basically obviates any gain we
10:34:37 have seen in the general fund revenues.
10:34:39 So the general fund doing better, the utility tax fund
10:34:43 doing worse.
10:34:46 To give you a historical graphic on some of the major
10:34:51 utility tax revenues and how we anticipate they will
10:34:53 perform, in the utility tax compared to historical, on
10:34:59 the historical basis coming in very well but not quite
10:35:01 as well as we thought.
10:35:04 I hate to keep going the economic development out
10:35:07 there, but the economic environment, of course, drives
10:35:12 many of our revenue sources.
10:35:15 The primary culprit in our utility tax revenue
10:35:18 underperformance is communication -- services tax, and
10:35:22 this is just performing significantly less than we and
10:35:26 many, many other localities anticipated.
10:35:29 You can see to the tune of over $2 million.
10:35:32 That's a large hit.
10:35:33 And we don't project that to get any better in the next
10:35:36 fiscal year.
10:35:37 And you will see that when we start to get into more
10:35:39 detail at the workshops.
10:35:42 Significant hit.
10:35:45 On a slightly brighter note the water utility tax is
10:35:48 performing slightly better than anticipated and very
10:35:51 well based on history due in no small part to the rate
10:36:01 The utility tax refuse gnaws to the expenditures, again
10:36:04 these are the primary expenditures in this fund again
10:36:07 tailored towards more of the big ticket items, your
10:36:10 vehicles, your capital equipment, capital improvement
10:36:13 projects, and you can see a not insignificant amount of
10:36:17 debt service.
10:36:18 At the very bottom of that slide, again, I'll
10:36:21 reiterate, our overwhelming reliance on this revenue
10:36:25 source in the general fund.
10:36:27 Almost $37 million for operating expenditures
10:36:32 anticipated this year.
10:36:36 And trying to tie it all together, again a bird's-eye
10:36:39 view, revenues versus expenditures for both these
10:36:43 The bad news is we anticipate we are going to need
10:36:46 about $27 million of that fund balance.
10:36:49 It could be worse.
10:36:50 We budgeted 33.
10:36:52 So it's $5 million better.
10:36:54 But again when you are talking about taking such a
10:36:57 significant amount from this fund balance to balance
10:36:59 the budget, things can definitely improve.
10:37:06 Highlighting some of the costs.
10:37:09 These are your personnel costs, a very sensitive and
10:37:12 watched subject.
10:37:13 You can see the escalation over time.
10:37:15 Despite, again, reducing almost 700 positions over the
10:37:18 last three or four years.
10:37:21 We are recognizing some significant savings this year.
10:37:23 We think it's going to continue again, primarily
10:37:26 associated with vacancies.
10:37:32 On the other side you can see our overtime is
10:37:34 anticipated to increase beyond our budgeted level about
10:37:37 half a million dollars.
10:37:38 Primarily associated with the needs of the police
10:37:41 So overall our personnel costs are coming in under on
10:37:44 this particular line item, although it decreased
10:37:48 dramatically if you look at the history.
10:37:50 We anticipate it's going to bust the budget this year
10:37:53 and we'll have to bring to you an amendment.
10:37:58 Again over the last two years under $20 million worth
10:38:04 of increases, and you see the activity here in the
10:38:07 general employees pension, just a significant increase
10:38:11 over a very short period of time, very, very difficult
10:38:15 to absorb.
10:38:18 And the same in the fire and police pension,
10:38:23 statistically a greater jump in the amount of funding
10:38:26 that the city needs to contribute for these.
10:38:29 You see, the big hit in GE and backing up was last
10:38:33 year, and the big hit in the fire and police pension
10:38:35 was this year because they are based on two different
10:38:38 One fiscal year, one calendar.
10:38:41 So again over $20 million in increases.
10:38:45 And you can see the fire and police pension alone is
10:38:47 $20 million in total, just significant, significant
10:38:55 Moving onto the enterprise fund.
10:38:58 Enterprise departments ideally are operated like a
10:39:01 At the very least you want to break even.
10:39:04 And ideally you want to make a profit.
10:39:06 And you either reinvest that profit into the
10:39:08 organization through improvement assets and the like,
10:39:12 or you invest that profit, or you make use of that
10:39:14 profit, excuse me, by reducing the rates to the users.
10:39:19 I say that because we have two enterprise funds that
10:39:23 are not doing very well.
10:39:26 Here you see the pie chart again, the bird's-eye view
10:39:28 of the burden that they take up -- in the budget, a
10:39:34 little over $300 million for the four departments.
10:39:39 There's a lot going on in this slide.
10:39:41 So I'll try not to get too down into the weeds.
10:39:43 But the long and the short of it is, the last time the
10:39:47 parking fund made a profit from a business perspective,
10:39:52 it was a successful business, was in fiscal year 2006.
10:39:56 In fiscal year 2007 the expenses began exceeding the
10:39:59 revenues, and they have survived on their savings or
10:40:01 their fund balance since then.
10:40:05 We have a couple of events that have taken place in the
10:40:07 current year, amounting to a perfect storm for our
10:40:11 parking fund.
10:40:13 They have run out of their savings this year and the
10:40:15 general fund has to supplement them this year.
10:40:18 On top of that, for a period of time, their debt
10:40:21 service associated with the parking garages was
10:40:24 artificially lowered from the sale of the parking
10:40:28 garage to the Tampa General Hospital.
10:40:31 So we got a consistent multiyear break on our debt
10:40:35 service that went away this year.
10:40:38 Coincidentally it's about a $7 million debt service,
10:40:41 and that's about what we think that they are going to
10:40:44 have a shortfall this year, and next year, and unless
10:40:49 anything changes for the foreseeable future, and
10:40:51 actually longer than that, up to 2020 as you will see
10:40:54 from one of slides.
10:40:55 We have a very, very difficult challenge in the parking
10:40:58 Not making a profit.
10:40:59 They have run out of savings.
10:41:01 And they are on the general fund goal.
10:41:07 And you can see here again trying to tie it all
10:41:11 together, operating at a loss of $7 million, anticipate
10:41:14 a similar loss in '12 and beyond.
10:41:17 And just to put it into context, as we talk about
10:41:21 having to address a 25 to $30 million shortfall next
10:41:25 year, you can see that parking is contributing to that
10:41:28 shortfall a quarter to a third depending on where we
10:41:31 end up on the shortfall.
10:41:33 A very significant burden as we try to balance next
10:41:36 year's budget.
10:41:39 You see their fund balance or their savings forecast.
10:41:42 In this year, they ran out of money.
10:41:44 And you can see a drastic decline, they will continue
10:41:49 to need additional funding from another source in
10:41:52 the -- through the foreseeable future.
10:41:59 So in summary on the parking fund, we have a systemic
10:42:02 $7 million shortfall in 2020 and we call it systemic
10:42:05 because it's basically built in the absence of any
10:42:08 other changes.
10:42:09 Increasing debt service, continued increase in
10:42:11 expenditures, primarily associated again personnel, pay
10:42:16 raises, pension, things like that.
10:42:18 The general fund utility taxes provide a supplement in
10:42:22 the current year of 2 million.
10:42:23 It's going to skyrocket to over 7 million we think next
10:42:26 And again, to drive the point home, a program that
10:42:30 ideally should be run like a business is a general fund
10:42:34 agency now.
10:42:38 Moving on to another very, very good challenge, the
10:42:41 solid waste department and the solid waste fund.
10:42:44 Again a lot going on in this graph, but that from a
10:42:47 historical perspective, you can see the last time this
10:42:50 business made a profit was 2008.
10:42:52 They are surviving right now through a combination of
10:42:55 their revenues, which aren't enough, and their savings.
10:42:58 Again, their fund balance.
10:43:01 They have had to tap into their fund bam the last
10:43:03 couple of years and we foresee them having to do that
10:43:06 continuously if nothing changes until they run out of
10:43:13 Again tying it all together we think they are going to
10:43:20 operate at a $4 million loss.
10:43:21 Their fund balance is less than 16 million.
10:43:24 So, again, this cannot be sustained into the long-term
10:43:27 without some changes.
10:43:29 And we have a similar fund balance graph for you.
10:43:32 You can see that they become insolvent in 24 months or
10:43:38 Very, very significant challenge.
10:43:40 That brings all kinds of other effects to be the
10:43:42 general fund if they run out of money.
10:43:51 Moving onto our next enterprise fund, the wastewater
10:43:53 fund revenue.
10:43:55 Pardon me.
10:43:56 And expenses.
10:43:57 You can see here again a lot going on in this slide.
10:44:01 But they are doing better than anticipated.
10:44:03 A little bit of a bright spot in terms of their
10:44:06 revenues, and their expenditures are coming in less
10:44:08 than anticipated.
10:44:10 You can see their activity has been rather cyclical as
10:44:14 you would expect with the recent last couple of years
10:44:17 in the economic environment.
10:44:18 Again, this is a fund that ideally operates like a
10:44:21 business in terms of profit.
10:44:23 And you can see this year we anticipate them to do just
10:44:27 that, to increase their fund balance for their savings
10:44:30 a little over $3.5 million.
10:44:36 Not quite such a bright spot in the water fund.
10:44:39 It has some very, very big impacts associated with some
10:44:43 large, large projects.
10:44:44 I have a list of them here.
10:44:46 Bruce B. Downs.
10:44:46 Sulphur Springs.
10:44:47 You can see their revenues are not coming in quite as
10:44:51 well as we anticipated.
10:44:54 You can see historically, they have also pretty much
10:44:57 broken even or had to use some of their fund balance in
10:45:02 the past.
10:45:03 Unfortunately, we think this year they are going to
10:45:05 need to turn to their fund balance to the tune of
10:45:08 almost $14 million.
10:45:11 On the plus side, they have got a significant fund
10:45:13 balance of almost $60 million, and they have got very,
10:45:16 very deep pockets to draw from this, but they won't be
10:45:19 able to do it forever.
10:45:22 Just to recap both water and wastewater have had recent
10:45:25 rate increases of 12 and 14% respectively that are
10:45:29 going a long way towards helping their financial
10:45:36 That's the end of the formal presentation, council.
10:45:40 I can answer any questions for you.
10:45:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Any questions by council members at
10:45:43 this time?
10:45:45 Mr. Cohen?
10:45:46 >>MIKE COHEN: Just one question.
10:45:49 Taking all this together, taking into account the
10:45:54 dollars that we expect to be able to roll overdue to
10:45:58 this year's savings, and the ability to keep some of
10:46:03 our expenses down below what was projected, having what
10:46:07 you have just shown us, what has been your view, the
10:46:11 total deficit that the city is looking at in next
10:46:16 year's budget?
10:46:17 >> Thank you.
10:46:18 That's a good question.
10:46:19 It continues to be approximately 25 to $30 million
10:46:22 depending on our projection.
10:46:24 Ideally, our projections get better and better as we
10:46:27 make our way through this year.
10:46:29 A couple of the catalysts will be the estimated
10:46:31 property values which we'll get from the property
10:46:33 appraisers office very soon, likely at the end of this
10:46:37 But it's still about 25 to $30 million.
10:46:40 >> Mr. Chair, I am going to have two items to discuss
10:46:44 relative to scheduling budget workshops, and the
10:46:48 continuation of the citizens advisory committee to be
10:46:51 City Council on the budget and finance.
10:46:53 Would you like to talk about those now, or in new
10:46:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: If you may, just let me say we would
10:47:00 like to discuss those in new business and you can ask
10:47:02 the administration the questions you need now so we can
10:47:05 clear that and not create them together.
10:47:09 Anyone else?
10:47:10 I have some questions myself.
10:47:14 The parking fund, the water fund, when you look at the
10:47:17 enterprise fund the way you spoke, and I believe you.
10:47:21 Three quarters of the enterprise fund is underwater or
10:47:26 upside down.
10:47:26 The only one that's above water, if I remember, was
10:47:33 Solid waste had a problem.
10:47:37 Parking has a huge problem.
10:47:39 I don't like to go on reserves.
10:47:41 As you well know when we had our meeting reserves are
10:47:44 something that are necessary in case of disaster.
10:47:47 Not financial disaster but natural disasters.
10:47:50 When you look at the projected loss or needs of moneys
10:47:56 to balance a budget, I believe it's something in the
10:47:58 neighborhood of $27,385,000, if I remember the figure,
10:48:03 give or take a couple of dollars.
10:48:05 >> Yes, sir.
10:48:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'm most concerned when enterprise
10:48:10 funds start going south.
10:48:13 In other words, like the average checkbook of all of
10:48:17 And that bothers me because they were set up apart from
10:48:21 the general fund, not to be subsidized, and general
10:48:25 terms by the general public fund.
10:48:29 So when I look at those things I start to think, how do
10:48:32 you get them back and balanced?
10:48:34 Let talk about water.
10:48:37 If this city doesn't do anything, if this
10:48:39 administration doesn't do anything on water for future
10:48:43 use in the next ten years, more than likely 15 years,
10:48:48 we will be buying a lot more water.
10:48:49 We bought $43 million worth of water from outside
10:48:54 sources in the last ten years.
10:48:57 It's my sometimes the next five years you are going to
10:49:00 spend $35 million in buying that water.
10:49:04 In the next 10 you are going to spend 75 million buying
10:49:08 So what I am getting at, if you don't fix your problem
10:49:11 and hold, not only your financial problem but your
10:49:15 anticipation of what you are going to spend in giving
10:49:17 the good citizens of this city their needs -- and
10:49:20 that's one needs, without water, forget about the rest
10:49:22 of the system, forget about your Hartline, forget about
10:49:25 your transit, forget about anything building,
10:49:27 prosperity, jobs, you won't have any of it.
10:49:31 So what I'm saying, if this administration does not
10:49:35 focus, number one, on water, they won't do number two,
10:49:39 number three and number four, because without water you
10:49:41 can't survive.
10:49:42 You can't have prosperity.
10:49:44 You can't have been new jobs.
10:49:49 The plan of course has been relatively young, so I am
10:49:52 not asking for one today.
10:49:54 But I would like to see something that you good folks
10:49:58 are going do, or plan to do in the next three months to
10:50:02 see what's going to happen.
10:50:03 You cannot continue -- we cannot continue, including
10:50:06 myself and this council, to keep going on the basis
10:50:09 of -- we have deficit but we have reserves.
10:50:13 We have deficit, we have reserves.
10:50:16 The same thing that happened in parking, same thing
10:50:18 that happened in water, and the same thing that
10:50:20 happened in solid waste.
10:50:24 The reserves vanished.
10:50:26 And then you are left with what do I do now?
10:50:30 That's folks, that's what causes foreclosure in homes,
10:50:35 basically the same theory and different principals, of
10:50:39 So I would like to see your plan, your financial plan
10:50:40 for what this city is going to do in the next four
10:50:43 years to have a -- brought-forward position on how you
10:50:50 are going to solve your deficit.
10:50:52 If this year is 27.3385 million is anticipated, and I
10:50:58 believe your numbers are very, very accurate -- then
10:51:01 how are we going to solve 2012, 2013, 2014?
10:51:07 What plan do we have for the outlook for the future so
10:51:10 that the citizens of this city who are paying the tax,
10:51:14 and get the same goods and services or as close to
10:51:17 those goods and services that we said we were going to
10:51:20 give them.
10:51:20 And we have been doing a good job in goods and
10:51:24 When you look at one department alone, between two
10:51:29 departments, if you compare those two department
10:51:32 through the brought-in revenues from ad valorem tax, on
10:51:36 two departments alone, you are $87 million in the hole.
10:51:41 I think that's accurate.
10:51:43 Not that that needs a change.
10:51:45 I think we have to realize what do we do in the future?
10:51:48 Not with those two departments but with the whole
10:51:51 picture of the governing body.
10:51:53 And I think this is most interesting to the taxpayers.
10:51:57 You have an opportunity in bad times to set the
10:52:01 standard, not only for next year but for the whole city
10:52:06 in the future, and there's an old Spanish saying.
10:52:11 (Speaking Spanish)
10:52:12 And I'm sure you understand what I said.
10:52:15 Just like we understand what you said.
10:52:18 [ Laughter ]
10:52:18 It means out of something bad something good can always
10:52:23 come out if you work out for a solution.
10:52:27 So that's the challenge we have.
10:52:29 And of these challenges, all the time, this
10:52:31 administration, this council, could certainly come up
10:52:34 and shine, because they do the right thing.
10:52:37 And that's what I'm asking.
10:52:39 I'm not asking for an answer today.
10:52:40 As you know, these hearings will be more and more
10:52:42 often, and Mr. Cohen, the head of the Finance
10:52:48 Committee, he will certainly be working with you to
10:52:50 make sure that everything is done with anticipation.
10:52:54 When -- it easy to say I am going to privatize this,
10:52:58 privatize that.
10:53:00 I'm not into that, because I'm failing to do my own
10:53:03 How do I get the parking department back on the right
10:53:08 Necessarily, does it have -- doesn't have to be this
10:53:10 year but how do I solve that problem, that privatizing,
10:53:15 what happens?
10:53:15 You sell it.
10:53:17 You are happy for about two days.
10:53:19 And then the rates all go up for the next 20 years.
10:53:23 I'm not opposed to rates increases if it solves a
10:53:25 problem, and you work on it on a diligent basis, not
10:53:28 just to spearhead moneys and moneys and moneys.
10:53:31 So these are the things that we have to look at.
10:53:34 I'm not going to go to mistakes we made.
10:53:37 We have made many.
10:53:38 All of us have made mistakes on both sides of the
10:53:42 But then again, I make mistakes on my own outside of
10:53:45 But you have to rectify those mistakes.
10:53:47 And this is the burden that you have.
10:53:49 And your new leader in finance, I met with her, she's
10:53:54 very articulate, very smart, and very capable, and now
10:53:58 I offer you that opportunity to solve our problem.
10:54:02 These are the things that we are looking for in
10:54:05 And I will stop here and give to the Mrs. Montelione.
10:54:07 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
10:54:09 You brought up 2001 very salient issues.
10:54:11 You brought up more than two, actually, but the it
10:54:15 would be that I would like to address are water and
10:54:19 And as we have moved toward conservation measures
10:54:26 including water conservation, including the advancement
10:54:31 of alternative transportation measures, we have to
10:54:36 think as the chair suggests in a long-term view.
10:54:43 The parking, I believe it was the parking slide that
10:54:45 projected through the year 2020.
10:54:49 We are looking at transportation changes at the MPO in
10:54:55 the year 2035.
10:54:56 So there are certain measures that we are taking in
10:55:01 other areas of the city and in the county that are
10:55:06 going to be reflected in our revenues in other areas.
10:55:10 Parking revenue, the need for parking is going to
10:55:13 decrease as we promote the transportation plans of mass
10:55:19 transit alternatives, bicycling, pedestrian usage,
10:55:22 building all the units downtown, so it as people live
10:55:25 down here they can walk to work.
10:55:27 So we have to not look at the immediate fix.
10:55:32 What are we going to do now to turn this situation
10:55:34 around be? But how are we looking at changing for the
10:55:38 next 15, 20 years, when the initiatives that we are
10:55:43 starting today or that we started yesterday are going
10:55:47 to be reflected.
10:55:48 So I encourage you to really look at the long-term
10:55:54 picture and address those issues that we are promoting
10:55:58 in other areas and other agencies and other forums and
10:56:03 really take those into consideration when looking at
10:56:06 the budget going forward, not just this budget, but the
10:56:09 ones that we are following.
10:56:12 Thank you.
10:56:12 >> First I would like to thank Mrs. Little and Dennis
10:56:20 for your presentation.
10:56:22 Excellent as always.
10:56:23 I am going to reiterate what Chairman Miranda and
10:56:26 actually what Councilwoman Montelione has said.
10:56:29 We didn't get into this situation easily, but we got
10:56:34 into it quickly.
10:56:39 What has happened over the last three years kind of the
10:56:42 economic tragedy that we have had over the last three
10:56:45 years has really caused all governments and all
10:56:48 businesses to be in this situation.
10:56:51 There's no doubt that things that happened previously
10:56:55 we probably should have solved some problems prior to
10:56:57 this, prior to this point, and I reiterate what
10:57:03 Chairman Miranda said in terms of water and some of the
10:57:05 other resources.
10:57:06 We would like to try to make things work in a little
10:57:08 better basis.
10:57:10 And I know that you, after having talked to you
10:57:13 privately, are thinking outside of the box and thinking
10:57:16 innovatively, trying to solve these problems.
10:57:18 And we appreciate that.
10:57:19 It's not going to be easy.
10:57:21 There are going to be some hard decisions that we all
10:57:24 have to make but at least having good information and
10:57:26 good projected numbers as much as we can is going to
10:57:30 help us do that job.
10:57:31 And I just wanted to thank you and tell the public how
10:57:34 much we appreciate your help.
10:57:35 >>FRANK REDDICK: I promised you I would ask no
10:57:44 question today, but -- [ Laughter ]
10:57:48 >> Like hearing your voice.
10:57:50 >>FRANK REDDICK: Okay.
10:57:52 Let me ask a question.
10:57:53 I was just thinking.
10:57:54 And refresh my memory.
10:57:55 We currently have ten parking garages?
10:57:59 >> Say again, sir?
10:58:00 >>FRANK REDDICK: We currently have ten parking
10:58:03 >> Yes, sir.
10:58:04 >>FRANK REDDICK: Are all of them operating at a loss?
10:58:07 >> Based on the operating revenue versus expenditures,
10:58:10 eight of them operate at a loss.
10:58:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: So when, that is meaning that they
10:58:19 are operating for the general fund and not from their
10:58:23 >> Yes, a combination of both.
10:58:24 They are not self-sufficient, and they need a lot of
10:58:27 general fund money to maintain operations.
10:58:29 >>FRANK REDDICK: And I'm assuming that the next time
10:58:36 we hear you from, hear from somebody, the department,
10:58:38 that you will be presenting to us some type of
10:58:41 resolution of how you are going to resolve these
10:58:45 >> Yes, sir, you will see a number of options and
10:58:48 scenarios that we will discuss during the workshops.
10:58:51 >>FRANK REDDICK: One of them including whether to sell
10:58:55 all ten of these garages?
10:58:56 >> Selling of our asset is one of the options.
10:58:59 We will explore as part of our solution.
10:59:01 >>FRANK REDDICK: Okay, thank you.
10:59:09 >>YVONNE CAPIN: We discuss this a little bit yesterday
10:59:10 about our bond rating.
10:59:14 The city's rating.
10:59:16 And because they are going to look at not just what we
10:59:20 are doing this year and next year.
10:59:24 How far in the plan is it looked at?
10:59:27 In other words, when they are talking about the future
10:59:30 and how we have to plan for the future, is it not part
10:59:34 of what you do, to make sure that we look -- or when
10:59:42 they look at us, as a city, that they are looking at
10:59:45 our plans down the future, down the road?
10:59:51 >> Little: Yes, ma'am.
10:59:52 That is a very huge component of how we are evaluated.
10:59:57 They look very heavily on how we manage and plan for
11:00:01 the future, at least an immediate term basis and as far
11:00:08 out as two, three, up to five years.
11:00:10 >> Up to five years.
11:00:13 >> Well, they do look beyond that because of the nature
11:00:16 of our economy, they understand there is a lot of
11:00:18 volatility but they are looking really looking to see
11:00:20 that we have a very solid and attainable plan in the
11:00:25 immediate term, and that there is room for and
11:00:29 flexibility in moving out beyond the immediate term.
11:00:31 >> Thank you, Mrs. Little.
11:00:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you, Ms. Capin.
11:00:39 That's a very good point.
11:00:40 And I am just going through some numbers.
11:00:43 The numbers are not correct but I am going to use them.
11:00:45 Let's say you owe 10 million and your payment is a
11:00:49 million dollars a year.
11:00:50 On the debt service.
11:00:52 And the revenues are $900,000 a year.
11:00:57 Well, the rating agencies up wherever the Wall Street
11:01:01 area, they'll say, oh-oh, we have a problem.
11:01:04 So now instead of paying a million on the 10 million,
11:01:07 you are paying a million and a half on the 10 million
11:01:10 because they get nervous.
11:01:12 So what do we get in return?
11:01:14 You have the same outstanding debt.
11:01:19 Your increase and performance went out to pay your debt
11:01:22 and guess who gets stuck with the bill.
11:01:25 We do.
11:01:26 So it's better to face reality than the to let the bond
11:01:29 rating lower from, say, A-plus to A-minus and get your
11:01:33 interest going higher and the same amount owed.
11:01:39 I've always been a believer, if you can't afford it
11:01:41 don't buy it.
11:01:42 In my own household.
11:01:43 So I know government is a little different.
11:01:45 But I still believe that if you are going to tell the
11:01:48 public the fact, this is how you get out of it.
11:01:51 We can do this and have that and your responsibility is
11:01:53 going to be to bring it to us.
11:01:55 And I appreciate it very much.
11:01:56 Any other council members have any question at this
11:01:59 Thank you very much for coming.
11:02:01 It was very direct and very informative.
11:02:03 We really appreciate your attendance.
11:02:05 Thank you.
11:02:07 All right.
11:02:07 We go to item 46.
11:02:11 That was opened earlier.
11:02:12 Anyone in the audience care to speak on item 46 being
11:02:17 changed to July 14th, the year 2011 at 10:30 a.m.?
11:02:23 I see no one.
11:02:24 I need a motion to change this to be that date, to July
11:02:27 14. This I have a motion by Mr. Suarez, seconded by
11:02:31 miss Capin on a close vote with Mr. Cohen.
11:02:34 All in favor?
11:02:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: I have a question.
11:02:37 This is pertaining to the -- with the greatest outcome.
11:02:44 I just have a question if someone can explain.
11:02:48 Clarification about the misnotice.
11:02:50 >>BARBARA LYNCH: The applicant had to do mailings 30
11:02:59 days prior to the public hearing.
11:03:01 And they actually missed by a day.
11:03:04 >> They were notified of having to --
11:03:09 >>BARBARA LYNCH: Yes.
11:03:10 In fact I actually called them.
11:03:11 I work with these people quite closely.
11:03:13 And I am just thinking -- received a letter from us
11:03:19 telling him that he had to do his notice by a certain
11:03:22 >> July 14th, I know that they are in urgent need
11:03:28 of trying to get this going.
11:03:29 So it's July 14 is the earliest date?
11:03:32 >>BARBARA LYNCH: I talked to Mr. Day --
11:03:37 >> Jensen?
11:03:38 >> I have to look at the file.
11:03:39 But he indicated that that wouldn't be a bad day for
11:03:42 But if you want to go earlier, I have to take a look at
11:03:45 the calendar.
11:03:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right, thank you.
11:03:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Do I hold this be? Where do you
11:03:52 want me to do with it?
11:03:52 >>BARBARA LYNCH: Do you want me toll see if they can
11:03:55 do it earlier?
11:03:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: If I may before I go further I will
11:03:58 hold 46.
11:04:00 And then we'll go to 31 and 47.
11:04:05 Now, on 47 is open.
11:04:06 We opened that earlier.
11:04:07 So I guess we'll take -- which comes first, 31 or 47
11:04:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: You can take either one.
11:04:17 It council's pleasure.
11:04:18 You can take 31 if you wish.
11:04:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 47 is open.
11:04:28 We'll take 31.
11:04:35 That's under the committee of Lisa Montelione.
11:04:37 So we go to Yolie Capin, the vice chair of that
11:04:40 committee on item number 31.
11:04:45 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I move the item.
11:04:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: You move the less resolution of 31.
11:04:50 I have a motion by Mrs. Montelione to move the
11:04:52 resolution, second by Mr. Reddick.
11:04:54 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
11:04:57 The Ayes have it unanimously.
11:04:58 Now on 47.
11:04:59 This public hearing has been open.
11:05:04 47 is now open.
11:05:19 Did I have anyone come in late that's not been sworn to
11:05:24 47 and the rest of the public hearings.
11:05:27 (Oath administered by Clerk)
11:05:37 >>BARBARA LYNCH: Land Development Coordination.
11:05:42 C-11-08 is to vacate a portion of 1th street in
11:05:46 the Channel District and I have a map for the overhead.
11:05:53 The portion of 11th street that's to be vacated is
11:05:56 outlined in yellow.
11:06:02 This is a part of 1th street between Meridian and
11:06:09 12th street and Cumberland to Whiting Street.
11:06:13 I have some photos.
11:06:17 The first is a photo of 1th street looking south
11:06:20 on Whiting Street.
11:06:21 And as you can see, it's an improved street.
11:06:28 The next picture is a picture of 11 street lag north on
11:06:31 Cumberland Avenue.
11:06:35 The next photo is looking southwest of 11th street.
11:06:45 And the other side is vacant as well.
11:06:51 And the photo a continuation looking north of Whiting
11:06:56 Street and this is not to be vacate.
11:07:04 Staff has no objection to this request.
11:07:07 Easements have to be reserved for Verizon, TECO,
11:07:11 people's gas, stormwater, wastewater and water.
11:07:15 One note about the easements as shown on the ordinance.
11:07:19 It's overall the whole entire area.
11:07:21 But these will be subject to change at second reading
11:07:24 because they are trying to narrow them to specific
11:07:26 areas we are working on the legal description for those
11:07:35 And Mr. McDonaugh is here from the city to answer any
11:07:39 questions about the reason for the vacating, and the
11:07:39 developer of the abutting property is here as well.
11:07:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Okay.
11:07:45 >> Bob McDonaugh, City of Tampa economic development
11:07:57 We are working with the related group, and they are
11:07:59 proposing to build an apartment complex adjacent to
11:08:03 this street, the vacated street, and more importantly a
11:08:07 lineal park on this vacate right-of-way.
11:08:11 Interesting, for important parts of this, the property
11:08:17 would be vacated, they would develop a lineal park on
11:08:20 the northern three quarters of the property.
11:08:22 When the park is completed and they receive a CO on
11:08:26 their first building the property would be dedicate
11:08:28 back to the City of Tampa.
11:08:31 The park and the developer would be maintaining that
11:08:33 property for a period of at least 49 years.
11:08:37 One of the things or questions that have come up in the
11:08:39 past is, you know, we will have fee simple ownership in
11:08:46 that northern three quarters of 11th street.
11:08:49 We will also have pedestrian easements across the
11:08:51 property to the south.
11:08:52 And so the pedestrian network will not be disturbed in
11:08:55 the neighborhood.
11:08:56 And I think rather than me speak more, if you have
11:08:59 questions, I would be happy to answer them, but more
11:09:02 importantly there are several neighbors from the
11:09:04 neighborhood, made property owners, that would like to
11:09:07 express their opinion about this vacating.
11:09:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Okay.
11:09:15 Is the petitioner here?
11:09:18 >> Ron Weaver, 40 East Jackson Street, attorney for the
11:09:23 I would like to thank your staff for working with us,
11:09:27 Mr. Steve Patterson is here, Ronald Nelson,
11:09:33 engineering, and in this economy, this economy to
11:09:36 create an opportunity not only of course for tax base
11:09:39 and revival of Channelside but also that park which we
11:09:41 will be maintaining for 49 years.
11:09:45 358 feet long, more than a football field.
11:09:48 And it's 50 neat wide and it would be maintained for 49
11:09:53 years by the developer as part of the 360 unit of
11:09:56 apartments with prior approval by this council, about
11:09:59 five years ago, about four times as much development,
11:10:03 therefore we believe that our impacts are much less by
11:10:05 about five times less, and we will be contributing to
11:10:08 the Channelside recovery, including providing the park
11:10:11 which is longer than a football field, with respect to
11:10:14 our application.
11:10:16 For vacating.
11:10:17 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
11:10:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Anyone in the audience at this time
11:10:20 care to speak for or against this petition, please come
11:10:30 >> Good morning, chairman and fellow City Council
11:10:33 Good to see you again.
11:10:37 I'm a resident of towers of Channelside.
11:10:39 And I would like to identify -- would the residents of
11:10:43 the Towers please stand?
11:10:51 We do have the representation.
11:10:53 We do care.
11:10:53 And we would like to help you increase the revenue on
11:10:57 this parking garages, because 11th street is free
11:11:01 parking to so many people today.
11:11:05 So go to the employers or the employees parking there
11:11:09 and ask the employers to rent these spaces a month and
11:11:15 that will help your revenue.
11:11:18 Related to developer's request to replace 1th
11:11:21 street with a huge welcome to have that park there.
11:11:25 The tower residents who live at Cumberland and
11:11:31 1th street have seen -- 11th street have seen
11:11:36 horrible situation was the trash debris, party
11:11:39 revellers, you name it and it's there.
11:11:42 So the members of the council, please grant this
11:11:44 right-of-way application with the conditions made to
11:11:47 the related development.
11:11:49 Our first request to barricade 11th street as soon
11:11:53 as permissible.
11:11:54 Please put up no-parking signs on both sides of
11:11:58 Cumberland between this development and the towers,
11:12:02 because we don't want them to move off of 11th
11:12:05 street onto the street side now.
11:12:08 So if we could put up that.
11:12:10 And then where they do take over the 11th street,
11:12:14 put in zone signs so the people won't arbitrarily go
11:12:21 back and park there.
11:12:23 And to the relate development, we say welcome to
11:12:27 Channelside, and thank you.
11:12:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Anyone else?
11:12:31 >> Good morning, Mr. Chairman, council members.
11:12:39 My name is Tom Murang, resident of the Towers of
11:12:44 My unit overlooks 11th street.
11:12:46 I'm in favor of vacating the street and making it a
11:12:49 public park.
11:12:50 I think it will add to the appearance of the area.
11:12:54 It will also add an amenity for the citizens of
11:12:57 Channelside and I'm in totally in favor.
11:13:00 And I second Evelyn's assistance to the parking
11:13:02 problems with the deficit.
11:13:06 Thank you.
11:13:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
11:13:08 Next, please.
11:13:09 >> Marilyn Smith.
11:13:16 I don't live in the towers, but I do have to go to the
11:13:20 Port Authority quite frequently, and I Tampa, Florida
11:13:23 those roads.
11:13:24 And anything you can do to block off the unsightliness
11:13:28 that is occurring and bring revenue to the parking
11:13:31 garages around the Channelside would be good.
11:13:35 Mr. Weaver spoke about the recovery of the Channelside.
11:13:42 Nice to see somebody besides me admit there's a problem
11:13:45 down there.
11:13:46 It's not like everybody goes -- wasn't more than two
11:13:52 That's the reason why the parking revenue is down, too.
11:13:54 So I agree, the members are taking a very forward leap
11:14:00 positive of resident position, and I applaud that, the
11:14:07 We should have more neighbors like that.
11:14:08 Thank you.
11:14:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
11:14:11 Anyone else?
11:14:23 Anyone else in the audience care to speak on item
11:14:26 number 47?
11:14:29 Petitioner, would you like to come back up?
11:14:31 >> Ron Weaver: Yes, sir.
11:14:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Let me just say on this item, on
11:14:48 item 47, these are administrative reviews, and there's
11:14:51 really no notification given.
11:14:52 >> There has been public notice.
11:14:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I know that.
11:14:58 But come up, please.
11:15:01 >>JULIA COLE: City of Tampa legal department.
11:15:04 I notice some of the comments from one of the speakers
11:15:06 that there was a request to receive good neighbor
11:15:09 notice of the site plan review.
11:15:10 The site plan review in this instance is an
11:15:12 administrative review.
11:15:14 There is no notice.
11:15:15 The public hearing you have in front of you is on the
11:15:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I believe I have Mrs. Mulhern.
11:15:20 >>MARY MULHERN: Actually, Bob, I think maybe you can
11:15:23 help me with this, because I have your maps here and
11:15:29 I'm trying to piece together, because my only problem
11:15:34 with this is basically I don't like vacating streets,
11:15:39 especially in downtown.
11:15:44 And I would rather see us create green space out of the
11:15:52 land, the private land, as opposed to -- we need both
11:15:57 green space and parks in the Channel District, and we
11:16:01 need workable roads.
11:16:04 So what I'm trying to understand is because it does
11:16:10 dead-end there at Cumberland, right?
11:16:16 >> That's right.
11:16:17 >>MARY MULHERN: When the towers were built --
11:16:24 >> 11th street never went all the way to
11:16:27 Channelside Drive.
11:16:29 Here is a plat from the original plat.
11:16:30 I believe I provided you aerials.
11:16:36 Let me put something up on the Elmo.
11:16:37 You can see the plat.
11:16:43 This is 11th street that I am pointing to.
11:16:46 This is the area here where The Towers of Channelside
11:16:49 are currently.
11:16:52 11th street never went through.
11:16:54 There was some other side streets that Mr. Miranda
11:16:57 might remember a long time ago were vacated for Fogarty
11:17:01 Van Lines.
11:17:02 But 1th street, there was never a connection
11:17:04 between Channelside Drive and 11th.
11:17:07 That street never went through.
11:17:08 So there was not a disruption of the road grid because
11:17:12 there was not one that existed.
11:17:13 >>MARY MULHERN: In the past, it would have been nice
11:17:21 if we had actually expanded the grid and made it, you
11:17:25 know, I think it would have been better to allow
11:17:29 especially people who live there to get close to the
11:17:33 But since didn't happen, that's what I needed to know.
11:17:37 >> Bob McDonaugh: Yes, ma'am.
11:17:42 >>MARY MULHERN: Do you need these?
11:17:49 >> Any other questions, sir?
11:17:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I see none.
11:17:53 Anyone else who has not spoken would care to speak on
11:17:58 this item?
11:18:02 Okay, petitioner, I want you to have the last word.
11:18:07 I don't want the record to be imperfect.
11:18:17 Thank you very much.
11:18:17 I need a motion to close.
11:18:19 >> So moved.
11:18:20 >> Before we close, motion by Mr. Suarez, second by
11:18:24 Mrs. Mulhern.
11:18:24 >>JULIA COLE: Legal department.
11:18:27 I note one of the speakers did request that zoning
11:18:31 conditions be placed upon the approval of the vacation
11:18:34 I discussed that with the petitioner, and they have
11:18:36 indicated no objection to that.
11:18:37 So I would ask to include as part of your motion the
11:18:40 inclusion of those conditions if council so chooses to
11:18:43 be placed in the vacation between first and second
11:18:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: We will do that after we close and
11:18:50 talk about it and make that motion at the proper time.
11:18:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: For clarification, other than the
11:18:58 good neighbor notice of the notification on the
11:19:03 Okay, thank you.
11:19:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I think we are all on the right page
11:19:06 I have a motion by Mr. Suarez, second by Mrs. Mulhern
11:19:09 to close.
11:19:10 All in favor?
11:19:11 The Ayes have it unanimously.
11:19:13 Mr. Suarez?
11:19:14 Would you like to come to this first reading?
11:19:17 >> Move an ordinance of the City of Tampa rescinding
11:19:22 repealing ordinance number 2008-160 which vacate,
11:19:28 closed discontinuing a certain right-of-way portion of
11:19:31 1th street south of Whiting Street, north of
11:19:35 Cumberland Avenue, west of Channelside Drive and east
11:19:37 of Meridian Avenue in interstate investment company's
11:19:41 platinum 4, a subdivision located in the City of Tampa,
11:19:44 Hillsborough County, Florida, subject to certain
11:19:46 covenants, conditions and restrictions providing for
11:19:49 repeal of all ordinances in conflict, providing for
11:19:53 severability, providing an effective date.
11:19:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mr. Suarez
11:19:58 incorporating the items that were brought up by City
11:20:04 Council attorney Marty and Mr. Cole, seconded by -- do
11:20:09 I have a second?
11:20:10 Second by Mrs. Capin.
11:20:12 Any further discussion by council members?
11:20:14 This is first reading.
11:20:15 All in favor of the motion indicate by saying Aye.
11:20:17 Opposed nay.
11:20:19 The Ayes have it unanimously.
11:20:21 Thank you very much for attending.
11:20:22 Second reading will be --
11:20:24 >>THE CLERK: June 2nd at 9:30 a.m.
11:20:27 >> On item 46 about the public hearing date --
11:20:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: We are going to go now to 46.
11:20:32 >> We could set it for 6-23.
11:20:34 It such short time.
11:20:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Reddick had the question.
11:20:42 He stepped out for a little bit.
11:20:44 We can address all of it at one time.
11:20:46 Thank you very much for attending.
11:20:47 Item 48.
11:20:53 It was open for public hearing earlier.
11:20:55 There's a request that said public hearing be removed
11:20:57 from the agenda.
11:20:59 On item 48.
11:21:00 This was set for a 2(COP-X) at 2302 west Columbus
11:21:07 drive, rescheduled from April 21st.
11:21:12 I'm getting a little concerned about the items that I
11:21:14 see being just handled under S-1.
11:21:18 This is being removed just for that reason from an S-2
11:21:22 to S-1.
11:21:23 That means it does not come before this body.
11:21:26 And when you are talking about 2(COP-X) what does that
11:21:33 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Land development.
11:21:34 This particular application, they opted to convert to
11:21:37 the special use 1 for a special restaurant beer and
11:21:40 wine sales, on-site consumption only.
11:21:43 Under the new rules they are considered a special
11:21:45 restaurant beer and wine.
11:21:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: But that means that they can sell
11:21:49 alcohol without selling anything?
11:21:52 >> No, they have to operate as a restaurant.
11:21:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: At 49-51?
11:21:59 >>CATHERINE COYLE: That's right.
11:22:00 So they have to report.
11:22:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: They have to report.
11:22:02 I'm sorry, Mrs. Capin.
11:22:06 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Ms. Coyle, 4(COP-X)?
11:22:09 >> 2(COP-X) is what they originally asked for.
11:22:14 >>YVONNE CAPIN: And the X, you still have to be a
11:22:16 >> No, that was the old classification.
11:22:19 Under the previous regulation.
11:22:21 This is just restricted to on-site consumption only, no
11:22:24 package sales.
11:22:25 They opted with the new recall to take the special
11:22:27 restaurant designation which does have them reporting.
11:22:32 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.
11:22:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: All right.
11:22:44 I think I am clear on item 48 now.
11:22:47 Ms. Mulhern.
11:22:47 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you, Mr. Chair, for bringing
11:22:50 that up.
11:22:51 Because it interesting considering we just changed the
11:22:56 process that someone was asking for, a bar license is
11:23:05 now asking for a restaurant license is basically what
11:23:07 it looks like.
11:23:08 So the changes that are administrative and they no
11:23:13 longer need to come to council, but they switched from
11:23:15 asking for -- is that essentially what's going on here,
11:23:19 2(COP-X) was for not a restaurant, it was just a bar?
11:23:24 Liquor license or beer and wine sales?
11:23:28 >>CATHERINE COYLE: The old classifications that we had
11:23:30 simply had to do with the level of alcohol sales.
11:23:34 2(COP-X) is simply beer and wine sales on premises
11:23:37 restricted for consumption only on premises.
11:23:41 The underlying use wasn't tied to the classification.
11:23:43 It is a restaurant.
11:23:44 It is currently a restaurant on-site.
11:23:46 They simply wanted to sell beer and wine.
11:23:48 They had asked for the X designation through the S-2.
11:23:51 They have now converted to a special restaurant
11:23:54 So they do have to report under the new rules.
11:23:57 We tied the new rules a little bit more closely with
11:23:59 the underlying use and alcohol sales.
11:24:01 >>MARY MULHERN: But originally they were asking for a
11:24:06 license that was not a restaurant, and now they are?
11:24:10 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Well, they are not asking for a
11:24:12 They are asking for a permit.
11:24:13 Just to clarify.
11:24:14 It's simply a land use permit.
11:24:16 Nothing to do with the license.
11:24:17 >>MARY MULHERN: Well, whatever you want to call it.
11:24:20 They were asking for a special use-2 permit for not for
11:24:27 a restaurant but basically for consumption on premises.
11:24:32 There's no food restrictions that would make it a bar.
11:24:36 >>CATHERINE COYLE: The underlying use in that
11:24:38 application was a restaurant.
11:24:40 >>MARY MULHERN: In laymen's terms.
11:24:41 >> The underlying use within the S-2 application was a
11:24:44 >>MARY MULHERN: Oh, it was?
11:24:46 >> It was.
11:24:46 It still is.
11:24:47 It's a Columbian restaurant.
11:24:51 >>MARY MULHERN: I thought it had an R if eights
11:24:55 >> There's no requirement you have to take the "R"
11:25:00 requirement under the old rules.
11:25:01 >> So the permit was not restricted to a restaurant.
11:25:04 That's what I am getting at.
11:25:09 >>CATHERINE COYLE: The use was restrict to a
11:25:10 restaurant, that's correct.
11:25:11 It just didn't have a reporting requirement.
11:25:13 >>MARY MULHERN: The only enforceable restriction is
11:25:20 the reporting requirement?
11:25:24 They were asking for a permit.
11:25:27 They would not have been required to sell 51% food,
11:25:33 Is that correct?
11:25:35 If it's (COP-X)?
11:25:38 >>CATHERINE COYLE: That is correct.
11:25:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mrs. Capin?
11:25:42 >>YVONNE CAPIN: That's exactly what I was going to
11:25:44 For 2(COP-X), would not, even though they were a
11:25:48 restaurant, did not require them to be a restaurant.
11:25:52 In order to sell.
11:25:54 And it has been changed now to SU-1.
11:25:58 And --
11:26:01 >> And it is restricted to a restaurant under the
11:26:06 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Under the new permitting.
11:26:07 So they did change it for that.
11:26:15 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Correct.
11:26:17 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Okay.
11:26:18 The X would have been no reporting.
11:26:20 Or no requirement for food.
11:26:23 Thank you.
11:26:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Let me make two observations here.
11:26:26 First of all, it wasn't the administration that did
11:26:29 It was us that did this.
11:26:30 Am I correct?
11:26:34 >>CATHERINE COYLE: That's correct.
11:26:35 City Council adopts.
11:26:36 >> Let me say another thing.
11:26:40 I believe this is on the corner of Howard and Columbus
11:26:43 drive, the southwest corner.
11:26:49 The great people run a great business.
11:26:52 But when you start giving out X's without an R, and a
11:26:56 location close to -- I am not going to mention any
11:26:59 names -- close to a bar who has create havoc in the
11:27:03 neighborhood, you are asking for more trouble than we
11:27:05 can handle.
11:27:06 I am going to tell you that rate now.
11:27:08 This neighborhood is the borderline which way it's
11:27:13 going to go.
11:27:14 And these are not going to help out long-term.
11:27:19 I'm not speaking for or against this petition.
11:27:21 I'm just telling you what we did in changing it.
11:27:25 S-2 to S-1 by giving up the agenda on alcohol beverage
11:27:29 We erred, in my opinion, and I will leave it at that.
11:27:34 >>CATHERINE COYLE: If I may, just to clarify for the
11:27:36 new council members who weren't here for the adoption
11:27:38 of that regulation, there is no more X or R in
11:27:43 The use itself is tied to the alcohol sales.
11:27:45 They did receive a special restaurant, special use
11:27:49 permit for alcohol sales which does have reporting
11:27:53 requirements for 51% of food sales.
11:27:56 I just wanted to clarify.
11:27:57 There is no more X or R in that type of classification.
11:28:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: What means is that it never comes
11:28:04 We gave up that right.
11:28:05 >> If they agree to conditions that council adopt in
11:28:11 the rules then they get the special use 1 permit.
11:28:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: On 47 there was an oversight and an
11:28:18 ordinance already here, and we need appeal ordinance
11:28:22 number 2008-160.
11:28:25 So do I have to open 47 again?
11:28:30 I don't believe I do because that's repealing something
11:28:33 that's on the books.
11:28:34 So I need a motion from council to repeal ordinance
11:28:40 number 2008-160.
11:28:44 If not we'll have two ordinances on the books on the
11:28:47 same item.
11:28:49 >>YVONNE CAPIN: So moved.
11:28:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Seconded by Mr. Reddick.
11:28:52 Any discussion by council members?
11:29:00 Asking for clarity, I want to make sure it in the
11:29:02 These all it is.
11:29:03 Motion by Mrs. Capin, second by Mr. Reddick.
11:29:06 All in favor of the motion indicate by saying Aye.
11:29:08 Opposed, nay.
11:29:10 The Ayes have it unanimously.
11:29:11 Thank you very much.
11:29:12 On item 48, this can be removed.
11:29:17 I understand -- I think we understand where we are at.
11:29:20 And I need a motion to remove it from the agenda.
11:29:26 >>MIKE SUAREZ: So moved.
11:29:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Seconded by Mr. Cohen.
11:29:30 All in favor?
11:29:32 The Ayes have it unanimously.
11:29:35 49 has been opened earlier.
11:29:39 We are now on item number 49.
11:30:03 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Land development.
11:30:07 V-11-151 located in unit B, 227, 2223 Westshore
11:30:15 Boulevard, International Plaza, along Bay Street, the
11:30:18 rear of the property.
11:30:23 They are asking for a 4(COP-X).
11:30:25 This is one of the last lingering pieces of the old
11:30:30 For beer, wine and liquor sales, on-site consumption
11:30:34 only, no package.
11:30:35 There is approximately 1517 square feet indoors and 904
11:30:40 square feet outdoors in the patio area.
11:30:43 This utilizes surface parking and garage parking for
11:30:45 the mall, approximately a little over 6,000 spaces.
11:30:50 You will note the two distance separations waivers,
11:30:53 1,000 feet to zero for other establishments selling
11:30:57 alcohol, and 1,000 feet, 420 feet for institutional
11:31:02 They are requesting the chapter 3 hours, Monday through
11:31:06 Saturday, 7 a.m. to 3 a.m. and on Sunday 11 a.m. to 3
11:31:11 They're there is one change you will note on the
11:31:13 revision sheet.
11:31:14 That can be made between first and second reading.
11:31:17 It's a modification requested to the site plan for
11:31:20 transportation simply adding the occupant load, and
11:31:24 parking table for the for life safety code.
11:31:29 I believe they are ready to submit that upon your
11:31:31 approval between first and second reading.
11:31:33 I noted the conditions for the special use criteria,
11:31:39 pages 2 through 5.
11:31:41 And with that I'm available for any questions.
11:31:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
11:31:47 Police department.
11:31:48 >> Officer Donald Miller, City of Tampa police
11:31:51 We have no objections.
11:31:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
11:31:53 Is petitioner here?
11:31:54 >> Good morning.
11:31:58 Anne Pollack, mechanic and Nuccio, 305 South Boulevard.
11:32:03 This is for a retail, tobacco, fine cigar business that
11:32:09 is coming in.
11:32:10 And looking to add the alcohol to their services.
11:32:15 And, again, like all businesses that are in
11:32:18 International Plaza, the landlord works very closely
11:32:22 with them to ensure that there are no problems, and if
11:32:27 they are they are taken care of immediately.
11:32:29 I'm here if you have any questions.
11:32:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
11:32:32 Would anyone in the audience care to speak on item 49
11:32:35 at this time for or against item 49?
11:32:38 I see no one.
11:32:39 I need a motion to close 49.
11:32:41 >>FRANK REDDICK: I have a question.
11:32:51 Ma'am, I just have some reservation about selling
11:32:59 alcohol at 3:00 on Sunday morning which leads into
11:33:02 Monday morning.
11:33:05 Does the place close at 3 a.m.?
11:33:06 >> It's my understanding that, in a, most of the
11:33:09 businesses at International Plaza do not close.
11:33:12 They vary slightly here and there.
11:33:14 Most of them do not close at 3.
11:33:17 It's earlier.
11:33:18 And for the most part they are following the hours of
11:33:22 the mall.
11:33:25 And which I think are much more limited on Sunday.
11:33:31 But because it has not been determined exactly when the
11:33:34 hours will be.
11:33:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: I'm sorry, I got distracted here.
11:33:44 My question really was whether the establishment closes
11:33:49 at 3 a.m., or are they still open?
11:33:53 You say most of the places are still open at
11:33:55 International Plaza at 3 a.m. or close before 3 a.m.?
11:33:58 >> Most of them close before 3.
11:34:00 >> So their hours of operation, the sale of alcohol to
11:34:07 3 a.m.?
11:34:08 >> That's what we are requesting.
11:34:09 At this point it is not exactly known what the exact
11:34:12 hours will be, though they generally follow the hours
11:34:16 that International Plaza has set for most of the
11:34:18 businesses that are in there.
11:34:20 And, again, the landlord, the mall itself, tries to,
11:34:27 you know, ensure that things are consistent throughout.
11:34:33 So I would not expect that they would be open to 3 a.m.
11:34:39 on Sunday morning.
11:34:41 But at this point we don't know the exact hours.
11:34:43 And so that's why this is what we are asking for.
11:34:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: I am familiar with that area.
11:34:52 Are they going to try to mirror what the bars along
11:34:56 that area are going to follow?
11:34:58 I'm not sure what the hours are for, let's say, Blue
11:35:02 >> That's what I would imagine, is what they will be
11:35:06 >> The folks that sell the cigars outside of Starbuck's
11:35:11 currently, are they part of that ownership or is that a
11:35:14 different group?
11:35:14 >> I don't know.
11:35:16 But it will be taking over where the Starbuck's was,
11:35:18 and really, their goal is to be a high-end business
11:35:24 where people who are cigar aficionados can store their
11:35:29 cigars there and, you know, I guess have a drink while
11:35:32 they have a smoke.
11:35:33 >> Thank you.
11:35:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Anyone else?
11:35:37 Let me make a statement.
11:35:38 Here again, it was never written into law, it was
11:35:44 council's rule at one time that we had -- and we
11:35:48 changed those.
11:35:49 We open them up to 3:00 in the morning.
11:35:51 We had a rules that we went by.
11:35:55 Some of us liked it.
11:35:56 Some of us didn't.
11:35:57 And that changed about a year and a half ago or
11:36:00 something like that are.
11:36:01 And I think it changed on a 4-3 vote as I recall.
11:36:06 I may be a vote or two shy.
11:36:08 And that's why now everything comes to us, because they
11:36:12 have the opportunity to do so.
11:36:14 And I am not talking about this petition.
11:36:15 Believe me, I'm not.
11:36:16 I'm talking in general.
11:36:18 That's why now when you come and see the agenda, all of
11:36:21 them say 3:00.
11:36:22 In the beginning they knew that even though Florida
11:36:25 statute it was a rule that we would look at and say,
11:36:28 okay, these are going to open to 10, 12, 1, depending
11:36:33 on how close you were to neighborhoods, so the dilemma
11:36:36 we did ourselves, and Mr. Shelby, you can address that
11:36:40 if you like.
11:36:41 Maybe I'm a little off base but I think that was the
11:36:44 general tone.
11:36:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: The hours of operation, Mr. Chairman,
11:36:50 are within your purview and that is set by code.
11:36:53 And if council as a public policy issue wishes to
11:36:55 address those issues, the way to address that is by
11:36:58 reviewing your code and making any changes that would
11:37:00 address your policy concerns.
11:37:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
11:37:04 Anyone else?
11:37:05 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mr. Chairman, I would like to look at
11:37:12 reviewing the policies for policy change, because I
11:37:16 just think establishing a business stay open till 3:00
11:37:20 in the morning, after 12, anyway, so if they are out
11:37:27 till 3:00 in the morning, Blue Martini closes at 12 or
11:37:31 1, and the people who still want to go out and smoke a
11:37:34 cigar go out and have more drinks, they can move on to
11:37:36 this facility.
11:37:37 And so I would hope we would take a look at this, the
11:37:45 hours of operation.
11:37:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Let me say this.
11:37:47 I think Mrs. Capin asked for an alcohol review coming
11:37:50 up workshop coming up in the next two or three weeks.
11:37:56 And we can address that at that time.
11:37:58 I appreciate the concern and your consideration very
11:38:01 Anyone else?
11:38:07 I'm here on item 49.
11:38:12 I need to close that.
11:38:13 >> Motion to close.
11:38:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mrs. Montelione, second by
11:38:17 Mr. Suarez to close.
11:38:19 All in favor?
11:38:20 >> I'm sorry, I didn't hear you say public hearing.
11:38:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I said it once.
11:38:26 But you are under the wire.
11:38:29 That's the second time.
11:38:29 Go on.
11:38:30 Speaking to the city attorney, he doesn't vote.
11:38:32 We do.
11:38:34 I saw all of that.
11:38:35 I knew you were going to come up and I love it.
11:38:38 [ Laughter ]
11:38:40 >> Marilyn Smith: I thought we had a clean air act.
11:38:45 I thought we weren't supposed to be smoking cigars out
11:38:48 What about that?
11:38:49 I got nothing against cigars.
11:38:51 But either we have a nonsmoking ordinance here.
11:38:58 Do you understand where I am going?
11:38:59 >> The reason I'm asking is because they already smoke
11:39:02 right outside of that, under that coffee shop.
11:39:05 And Starbuck's.
11:39:07 I mean, I have been up and down there many times for
11:39:09 lunch, and people are already smoking cigars out there.
11:39:12 So obviously that would have happened before I was on
11:39:15 So I'm not sure, if your question can be answered by --
11:39:20 if there is ordinance already for clean air in that
11:39:23 particular area.
11:39:23 >> Well, let me just put it this way.
11:39:27 Thank you for your interpretation, Mike.
11:39:34 When there are larger municipalities, metropolitan
11:39:37 area, seeking -- and if they are big enough they will
11:39:41 do it -- to stop any outdoor smoking.
11:39:43 You know, we are talking big cities that are doing it.
11:39:50 We are talking New York.
11:39:52 That's a big city
11:39:54 And these guys are kind of put their cigars out there,
11:39:59 and that's wonderful if that's what they want to do,
11:40:01 but smoking, and you walk through that smoke to get to
11:40:04 a dinner restaurant, it's not exactly clean air.
11:40:09 Thank you.
11:40:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
11:40:12 All right.
11:40:13 I have a motion on the floor.
11:40:16 Any further questioning before I move to close?
11:40:24 >>MARY MULHERN: Are we allowing the smoking outdoors?
11:40:27 This is a special use alcohol permit.
11:40:28 >> Anne Pollack.
11:40:34 I just want to state that they will be getting a
11:40:36 special bar permit through the state which allows for
11:40:39 stand-alone business like this to have smoking within
11:40:43 the business.
11:40:45 And, again, I keep emphasizing this about the landlord.
11:40:50 But the landlord of International Plaza is very strict
11:40:53 about keeping up the quality of what happens there.
11:40:57 And as part of the lease that they have with this
11:41:00 business, they have very strict requirements about
11:41:06 smoke that interferes with -- bothers pedestrians or
11:41:12 other people at the mall, and to be able to take care
11:41:15 of that immediately or risk losing their lease.
11:41:21 >>MARY MULHERN: What does that mean?
11:41:23 What is like Mrs. Smith's' recourse if she want to
11:41:27 question allowing smoking outside there?
11:41:30 >> Well, what I would recommend is her talking -- based
11:41:33 on my understanding of how the business is going to be
11:41:35 run, is to speak with somebody at the mall, and then
11:41:40 their plan is to immediately take care of that, for the
11:41:44 landlord to immediately deal with the tenant, if she
11:41:47 doesn't directly speak with the business owner
11:41:51 But that is their goal, because this is their first
11:41:53 sort of smoking business to come in, and they don't
11:41:56 want it to foul up what they already have there.
11:41:59 >>MARY MULHERN: Is there anything -- maybe this is for
11:42:04 our attorney.
11:42:05 Is there anything in our agreeing to this special use
11:42:11 permit that would further allow that?
11:42:16 Or --
11:42:19 >> Would you repeat the question, please?
11:42:20 >>MARY MULHERN: I want to know if we were to approve
11:42:23 this special use permit for alcohol, how does that
11:42:26 affect smoking there?
11:42:28 >>REBECCA KERT: What you are approving here is a
11:42:31 request for alcohol related to a retail tobacco shop.
11:42:38 What you are actually approving, though, is the
11:42:41 You are not approving the underlying tobacco shop which
11:42:43 is already a related use.
11:42:45 So any conditions you place has to be directly related
11:42:48 to any impact from the alcohol, not from the underlying
11:42:51 >>MARY MULHERN: And that isn't part of our purview
11:42:57 Did we approve the alcohol use?
11:42:59 We didn't do that -- I mean, I'm sorry, the tobacco
11:43:05 >> The tobacco use is an underlying legal use.
11:43:08 >>MARY MULHERN: The tobacco use is an underlying legal
11:43:11 use if we give them this?
11:43:13 Or they already have it?
11:43:14 >> They already have the allowable -- they already have
11:43:17 the ability to have that use, whether or not you grant
11:43:19 So what is really here before you is alcohol, and any
11:43:23 conditions you apply need to be directly related to
11:43:30 Any provisions or provisions contained within the state
11:43:33 >>MARY MULHERN: So the current zoning is not -- the
11:43:40 current zoning already allows for tobacco use in.
11:43:44 >> Retail tobacco shop, yes.
11:43:46 And the use of the tobacco as far as the smoking is
11:43:48 what's regulated by state statute.
11:43:50 >>MARY MULHERN: Did we as a council approve that?
11:43:54 Tobacco use?
11:43:56 >>REBECCA KERT: No.
11:43:57 Are you asking about smoking or are you asking about
11:43:59 the retail tobacco?
11:44:02 >>MARY MULHERN: I'm talking --
11:44:03 >>REBECCA KERT: In your zoning code, whether or not
11:44:06 people are allowed to smoke is allowed under state or
11:44:09 not allowed under state law.
11:44:10 >>MARY MULHERN: Right.
11:44:11 But did we as a council approve that usage as tobacco
11:44:19 >>REBECCA KERT: I believe it's allowable under
11:44:21 whatever the zoning is, but I would have to have the
11:44:24 zoning administrator say what exactly is allowable and
11:44:27 how the underlying zoning came to be.
11:44:30 >>MARY MULHERN: How does that come to be.
11:44:32 You answered my question.
11:44:33 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Zoning administrator.
11:44:38 The International Plaza site is a PDA, planned
11:44:41 developmental tern tiff, a proved in 1995 by City
11:44:43 Council, with a broad range of uses from office,
11:44:47 restaurant, large, small shopping center.
11:44:49 Just as an aside, there is no use prohibited or
11:44:54 regulated for smoking or retail sales of tobacco.
11:44:59 It is just captured under retail sales within the
11:45:02 zoning code.
11:45:03 We have never actually regulated a separate tobacco,
11:45:08 smoking or sales use.
11:45:11 We have gasoline sales retail, convenience sales
11:45:14 retail, tobacco, grocery stores.
11:45:19 As you see tobacco is sold in those locations.
11:45:22 >>MARY MULHERN: So is there something we could do?
11:45:25 >>CATHERINE COYLE: I think that's something to research
11:45:27 legally because tobacco shops are licensed by the
11:45:29 state, and as Mrs. Kert mentioned, the clean air act is
11:45:34 a state law so we have to research whether or not we
11:45:36 can do that.
11:45:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Suarez and Mrs. Capin.
11:45:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: My question was answered, thank you.
11:45:44 >>YVONNE CAPIN: The state statute would be the first,
11:45:49 or -- we could not -- we could not change anything.
11:45:57 That's the state law or state statute.
11:46:01 In the city, that would proceed or be first place --
11:46:10 >>REBECCA KERT: Legal department.
11:46:12 At the current moment, the state law is the only law
11:46:16 where you can and cannot smoke.
11:46:19 If council wanted as a separate issue after this
11:46:21 hearing to la into to what extent we allow in that
11:46:27 area, I'm aware of what the statute is generally but
11:46:31 have not looked at to what is preempted in that area.
11:46:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Any further discussion?
11:46:35 I have a motion to close earlier.
11:46:39 I forgot who did the motion, but I think I remember
11:46:42 Mrs. Montelione, seconded by -- who was the second?
11:46:46 Mr. Suarez.
11:46:46 I want to give full credit.
11:46:48 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
11:46:50 Opposed, nay.
11:46:52 The Ayes have it unanimously.
11:46:57 One objection.
11:46:57 Passes 6-1.
11:46:59 Mr. Reddick, no.
11:47:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: That was a motion to close, sir.
11:47:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion to close.
11:47:05 >>FRANK REDDICK: Oh.
11:47:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Yes.
11:47:07 Mrs. Montelione.
11:47:08 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I move an ordinance approving a
11:47:12 special use permit for alcoholic beverage sales, small
11:47:15 venue making lawful the sale of beverages regardless of
11:47:18 alcoholic content beer wine and liquor 4(COP-X) for
11:47:22 consumption on premises only at or from that certain
11:47:26 lot plot or tract of land located at 2223 North
11:47:30 Westshore Boulevard, unit 227, Tampa City Council as
11:47:34 more particularly described in section 2 hereof
11:47:37 providing for repeal of all ordinances in conflict,
11:47:40 providing an effective date, noting the revisions
11:47:46 provided to us in the 11 -- V-11- 51 revision sheet.
11:47:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Second by Mr. Suarez.
11:47:56 This is a -- all in favor of the motion indicate by
11:48:00 saying Aye
11:48:03 This is second reading or first?
11:48:05 Opposed, nay.
11:48:08 Motion passes 6-1, Mr. Reddick nay.
11:48:10 >>THE CLERK: Second reading of the ordinance will be
11:48:13 held June 2nd at 9:30 a.m.
11:48:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: All right.
11:48:16 Item number 50 was also a misnotice.
11:48:19 When we go to this we will go to the on the misnotice
11:48:22 on 46.
11:48:23 Item 50h cannot be heard due to a misnotice, as I
11:48:26 was told.
11:48:28 And the land coordination development would like to set
11:48:32 it for June 23rd at 10:30 in the morning.
11:48:34 Am I correct?
11:48:38 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Yes, it has been set for June
11:48:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Anyone in the audience that would
11:48:44 like to speak on item number 50?
11:48:45 I need a motion to move this to June 23rd.
11:48:49 Already done?
11:48:50 All right.
11:48:50 It done.
11:48:51 Item 50 is taken off the agenda, brought back on the
11:48:55 We go to 46, I believe.
11:48:58 We can take care of that one.
11:49:00 We have one more after that.
11:49:04 >>BARBARA LYNCH: Land Development Coordination.
11:49:06 We could move that public hearing to 6-23.
11:49:09 However, that only gives the applicant like four days
11:49:12 to do the notice.
11:49:13 It would have to be done by 5-22 and that's yes went
11:49:16 within the 7-14 date.
11:49:18 But he could go to 6-23.
11:49:19 >>FRANK REDDICK: You say only how many days?
11:49:23 >> It would give him about four.
11:49:24 Their notice would have to be completed by 5-22 which
11:49:27 is next Tuesday.
11:49:28 >>FRANK REDDICK: If the applicant is willing to go
11:49:33 with the original date of the 14th.
11:49:34 >> Do you want to go with the 14th?
11:49:37 >> You already spoke with the applicant?
11:49:38 >> I didn't have a chance to.
11:49:40 I didn't call him.
11:49:41 We could go with 6-23 and it's just can he get it done?
11:49:47 It's just a short window of opportunity.
11:49:48 But if you want 6-23 we can go with it.
11:49:56 At 10:30 a.m.
11:49:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: All right.
11:49:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: If I can, just to bring to council's
11:50:01 attention with the statutory requirement of notice.
11:50:03 If he misses that date, he will miss the 23rd of
11:50:08 If he cannot get it out in those several days.
11:50:10 So it puts a strain under him if he should miss that
11:50:14 date, he would not be legally able to come back on June
11:50:17 23rd which would therefore require it to shall
11:50:19 reset and he would have to do another 30-day out.
11:50:22 So --
11:50:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: If he has to wait another 30 out
11:50:26 he's going to miss July 14th.
11:50:28 >>BARBARA LYNCH: Yes.
11:50:31 The 23rd they would have some time to have do the
11:50:34 >>FRANK REDDICK: Let's keep it the 14th.
11:50:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Anyone here in the public to object
11:50:43 to this being heard on the 14th?
11:50:44 I have a motion by Mr. Cohen, second by Mr. Reddick for
11:50:47 the 14th.
11:50:48 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
11:50:50 The ayes have it unanimously.
11:50:53 Item 51.
11:50:56 Item 51 was opened earlier.
11:50:58 >> Case V-11-188 at 18002 Howard parkway in the New
11:51:11 Tampa area.
11:51:14 On the west side of Bruce B. Downs.
11:51:15 It is the Muvico cineplex asking only for beer and wine
11:51:25 sales for consumption on premises.
11:51:31 There's one site plan modification that is needed.
11:51:35 The hours on Sunday.
11:51:36 They noted a 9:30 start time.
11:51:39 Code does require sales cannot start before 1 a.m. so
11:51:42 that does need to be changed between first and second
11:51:45 reading and I have spoken to the applicant about that.
11:51:47 There are two waivers on the first page for distance
11:51:49 separation criteria.
11:51:50 You will note that the residential units, you can see
11:51:57 them in the surrounding areas, the apartment complex.
11:52:01 There are also other alcoholic beverage establishments,
11:52:04 662 feet away which are all the way along Bruce B.
11:52:12 You will note on pages 2 through 5, the conditions for
11:52:15 the special use regulations for you to consider, and
11:52:19 with that only the one minor correction would be that
11:52:22 we had in a other objections.
11:52:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: That would be done between first and
11:52:26 second reading.
11:52:27 >> Officer Don Miller, City of Tampa police department.
11:52:32 We have no objections.
11:52:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Petitioner?
11:52:34 >> Grace Yang, Gray Robinson Law Firm, 201 North
11:52:39 Franklin Street, suite 2200, Tampa, Florida, have been
11:52:44 sworn, here on behalf of the applicant. As Ms. Coyle
11:52:46 mentioned this is for the Muvico movie theater beer and
11:52:50 wine for on-premise consumption only.
11:52:53 With me in the audience is John Andel, the regional
11:52:56 managing director for Muvico.
11:52:58 We are both here available to answer any questions.
11:52:59 I did send a letter to council members on May 16th
11:53:03 that I hope to give you some additional information and
11:53:06 details about this request.
11:53:08 If you have any questions about that, let me know.
11:53:11 I also did hear from Sarabella, the president of the
11:53:21 West Meadows Homeowners Association, and he did not
11:53:21 think his association had any concerns.
11:53:23 My understanding is that he is now an immediate past
11:53:26 president of the West Meadows homeowners association.
11:53:30 I did not hear anything more from the new president of
11:53:32 the homeowners association.
11:53:34 I am unaware of any other concerns at this time.
11:53:37 The employees have successfully completed their
11:53:41 responsible alcohol vendor training as of last month.
11:53:51 Petitioner requests approval.
11:53:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Is there anyone in the audience to
11:53:53 speak for or against this petition?
11:53:55 I need a motion to close.
11:53:56 >> I have one question for Ms. Coyle.
11:54:03 The hours of operation for the sale of the beer, wine,
11:54:08 and mentioned at the 2:30 a.m., that's going to have to
11:54:11 be changed, correct?
11:54:14 My question is that that's just essentially a range of
11:54:21 hours that they have to have, meaning 11 a.m. to
11:54:24 11 p.m. for this type of use, or because I find it
11:54:27 strange that you would be serving alcohol at 11 a.m. on
11:54:30 a Monday through Thursday, even actually on a Saturday
11:54:33 So what is the use of this in terms of the alcohol?
11:54:41 >>CATHERINE COYLE: We can discuss that further next
11:54:42 week during the workshop.
11:54:43 Chapter 3, alcoholic beverages, actually states the
11:54:46 allowable sales hours within the city limits.
11:54:49 And they are Monday through Saturday, 7 a.m. to 3 a.m.,
11:54:54 Sunday 1 a.m. to 3 a.m.
11:54:55 That is the uniform across the board allowable sales
11:54:58 hours within the city limits.
11:55:00 There are a couple of exceptions to that including
11:55:03 Tampa International Airport for the hangars, as well as
11:55:07 hotels, motels, retail establishments such as grocery
11:55:11 stores, convenience stores.
11:55:12 They are exempt from that requirement because they can
11:55:16 typically be a 24 hour sale for normal goods.
11:55:19 Alcohol sales in establishments do stop, they cease at
11:55:23 3 a.m.
11:55:24 >> The reason I was asking the question, of course,
11:55:30 Muvico movie theater is a little different than other
11:55:33 types of uses, especially with the number of children
11:55:35 that are there, and I have been to Muvico where they do
11:55:38 serve alcohol and not had any problems in terms of
11:55:41 seeing children drinking or anything, but at the same
11:55:42 time, I'm a little bit -- I would like to figure out
11:55:46 maybe in the workshop next week.
11:55:48 So thank you for answering my question.
11:55:50 I appreciate it.
11:55:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Let me ask a question, Cathy.
11:55:56 On the Muvico operation, is there a site plan for the
11:56:00 location and the hours and all that of operation and so
11:56:04 >> Yes.
11:56:05 The site plan --
11:56:06 >> Is it on the site plan, the hours?
11:56:08 >> Yes.
11:56:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: You said earlier they are going to
11:56:10 be amended between first and second reading?
11:56:12 Is that correct?
11:56:15 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Yes.
11:56:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
11:56:17 That will be corrected.
11:56:19 >>MARY MULHERN: Corrected to what?
11:56:22 Can you toll us what they will be?
11:56:24 >> Yes.
11:56:25 I did have conversations with Kathy, Curt, as well as
11:56:28 clients to confirm that before second reading we will
11:56:31 amend the site plan to note that on Sundays, no earlier
11:56:34 than an 11 a.m. start time.
11:56:36 And also just to clarify, that some of the hours on
11:56:41 weekdays, for example, the theater might be open for a
11:56:46 longer period of time than the actual hours of sale for
11:56:50 the alcohol.
11:56:50 So the concession area where the beer and wine will be
11:56:55 sold may close down by 11 p.m. on a Wednesday night,
11:56:58 for example.
11:56:59 But there might be a movie that's going to run and
11:57:02 conclude at midnight.
11:57:03 So if you look at the letter on May 16th, it
11:57:09 summarizes the hours of sale for the alcohol uses, the
11:57:13 alcohol, beer and wine use, but those are going to be a
11:57:17 little more restrictive than the overall theater hours.
11:57:20 The theater might not let out for a movie until past
11:57:24 midnight but the concession area are where beer and
11:57:28 wine is sold will shut down.
11:57:29 >>MARY MULHERN: What are the hours?
11:57:32 >> Grace Yang: Those hours are -- let me check
11:57:35 again -- Monday through Thursday, 10:30 a.m. to 11 p.m.
11:57:48 Fridays and Saturdays, 10:30 a.m. to 1:00 a.m.
11:57:51 And Sundays 11 a.m. to 11 p.m.
11:57:54 >>MARY MULHERN: I don't think I have -- I probably
11:58:01 have and not noticed it -- but at these theaters where
11:58:04 you can buy bare and wine, you can take that into the
11:58:07 theater with you?
11:58:10 >> Yes.
11:58:11 >>MARY MULHERN: To your seat?
11:58:12 >> Yes.
11:58:14 You would be banded.
11:58:16 You would have a special wristband.
11:58:18 There would be an ultraviolet stamp on your hands at
11:58:21 the age verification point.
11:58:23 And then the alcohol would be in specially marked cups.
11:58:26 >>MARY MULHERN: And the seating isn't restricted about
11:58:29 where adults with alcohol can sit, and where children
11:58:35 I never thought about this before so I'm asking these
11:58:38 >> Right.
11:58:41 There's been plans to restrict because you want to
11:58:42 allow, if there's guardians, parents, adults there with
11:58:48 minors, you want them to be able to sit together.
11:58:52 So there's no intention to separate so that there's an
11:58:55 alcohol consumption area inside a theater where another
11:59:01 area it's not.
11:59:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Ms. Capin and then Mr. Suarez.
11:59:06 >> She brought up a point.
11:59:12 I may be mistaken, but in Ybor City they do have
11:59:15 restriction in terms of 21 or older in certain
11:59:18 I am not sure about the alcohol sales, whether or not
11:59:20 it's similar to your plan, or if it is restricted to
11:59:23 those people who are 21 and older.
11:59:27 Have you all ever thought of that in terms of, you
11:59:29 know, being able to, in a dark that's right, being able
11:59:33 to hand alcohol to someone who is underage?
11:59:38 >> Well, it's definitely a concern.
11:59:40 And that's why there are going to be spot checks during
11:59:42 the showing of the movies, before, middle and end, so
11:59:45 that the people, the ushers who are inside the movie
11:59:49 theaters are going to be able to tell by how the cups
11:59:51 are marked whether it's an alcoholic beverage or not.
11:59:54 Whether there's beer and wine in there or whether it's
11:59:56 a soft drink, for example.
11:59:58 So we certainly hope that no one in any sort of a
12:00:03 business would purchase an alcohol and then hand it off
12:00:06 to somebody else.
12:00:08 The movie theater is going to do what county using the
12:00:10 ushers, using the supervision in the theaters during
12:00:13 the movie showing, before the movie showing as well to
12:00:17 make sure that it's not done.
12:00:19 But it is definitely an issue.
12:00:23 We certainly hope as with any other business that in a
12:00:26 one would purchase the alcohol and then hand it over to
12:00:28 a minor.
12:00:30 >> If I am at a restaurant with my children, people
12:00:34 know if I am handing a beer to my son, whereas in the
12:00:37 theater they are not going to know whether or not I am
12:00:39 handing it over to some other minor, and that's really
12:00:43 my biggest concern.
12:00:44 Because if it's not separated in some way because of
12:00:47 the nature of the business is different than other
12:00:49 businesses, you know, that may be something to look at.
12:00:53 And I'm glad that you are looking at other types of
12:00:58 And it does sound like a fairly good plan.
12:01:00 Are the ushers going to be also trained and
12:01:03 responsible, or going to be trained and responsible
12:01:09 >> Yes.
12:01:12 They were all trained, and completed a program
12:01:14 successfully last month.
12:01:16 And any new hires will go through the same type of
12:01:20 responsible alcohol vendor training.
12:01:21 >> Are the ushers required to be of drinking age?
12:01:25 >> I think they are 18 and over?
12:01:27 Is that correct?
12:01:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'm sorry, if you are going to speak
12:01:33 you have to speak to a mike.
12:01:35 But I have to hold this for a minute.
12:01:37 It's my fault.
12:01:37 We have gone over 12:00.
12:01:39 I need a motion super majority of 5-2 vote to pass this
12:01:42 so we can continue so the record will be indisputable.
12:01:45 >> So moved.
12:01:47 >> Motion by Mrs. Mulhern, second by Mr. Cohen.
12:01:49 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
12:01:52 The Ayes have it Nam.
12:01:54 >> Grace Yang: I do know the people who will be
12:01:57 serving the beer and wine at the concession area
12:02:01 outside, those individuals are 21 and over.
12:02:03 I do need some clarification from the client about
12:02:05 the --
12:02:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Come and speak to the mike.
12:02:09 >> Yes.
12:02:16 John Andel.
12:02:19 Muvico theaters.
12:02:20 >> Your address.
12:02:22 >> 8801 Hunters Lake Drive, Tampa, Florida 33647.
12:02:28 And we do have ushers who are minors who work there,
12:02:31 but as far as the alcohol checks and theater checks, we
12:02:35 were going to designate those positions specifically to
12:02:37 those 18 years and older.
12:02:40 And then, also, in Ybor City, we do the same thing.
12:02:45 We are not segregated in Ybor City right now.
12:02:48 People 6:00 take drinks into any auditorium now.
12:02:50 We are not segregating 21 and over.
12:02:53 >> You were clarifying that because I couldn't remember
12:02:55 if Muvico was the one.
12:02:58 I don't want to make a comment about a competitor if it
12:03:02 was not your theater so I wasn't sure if Muvico was
12:03:05 running Ybor City or not.
12:03:08 I appreciate that.
12:03:10 The clarification on that.
12:03:12 Thank you.
12:03:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Ms. Capin?
12:03:15 Anyone else?
12:03:15 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I just want to -- and I believe
12:03:21 Councilwoman Mulhern mentioned this, but I just want to
12:03:24 make sure that the hours of operation on the site plan
12:03:28 state now Monday through Saturday, 8 a.m. to 3 a.m., on
12:03:32 Sunday 9:30 a.m. to 3 a.m., and that bullet point in
12:03:39 the site data table will be changed to reflect the
12:03:42 proper hours and not just referenced in the letter.
12:03:46 So all of the hours, the Monday through Saturday,
12:03:49 8 a.m. to 3 a.m., is, I believe, the hours of operation
12:03:54 of this theater, not of the alcoholic beverage sales.
12:03:58 So we need to have -- and, you know, in order for it to
12:04:02 be enforceable it has to be on the site plan for the
12:04:05 alcoholic beverage sales.
12:04:07 So if we can have that on -- is that not correct?
12:04:12 >>CATHERINE COYLE: No, ma'am.
12:04:12 Land development.
12:04:13 The way that it works with alcohol, unless you are an
12:04:16 exempted use, as retail establishments, unless you are
12:04:20 an exempted use, the hours that are set for alcohol
12:04:22 sales, also, automatically become the hours of
12:04:27 What they are telling you, because movie theaters are
12:04:29 not an exempt use, if you set a restricted alcohol
12:04:32 sales hour as 11 p.m. or whatever was in the letter,
12:04:37 the theater must close at that time you can have in a
12:04:40 operations past that time.
12:04:42 She is asking for the broad range of the chapter 3
12:04:45 hours that are adopted in the code to cover the hours
12:04:48 of the theater as well.
12:04:49 >>MARY MULHERN: So you are asking to be open till
12:04:57 3 a.m.?
12:05:00 >> For certain nights for the movie theater, not for
12:05:03 the concession area where the beer and wine is going to
12:05:06 be sold.
12:05:07 But there are movies that are midnight showings of
12:05:11 movies, and if you have a midnight showing of a movie,
12:05:13 it might not finish until 2:00 or 2:15, and so the
12:05:18 movie theater does need to maintain the flexibility to
12:05:21 be able to keep its doors open for a broader period of
12:05:28 >>MARY MULHERN: I understand that.
12:05:29 I guess my problem is with our process.
12:05:32 Why can't we limit the hours of alcohol sales?
12:05:38 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Land development.
12:05:38 It is the way the code is drafted, and which is
12:05:40 something that we can certainly look at next week in
12:05:43 that workshop discussing the way chapter 3 is written.
12:05:45 It's been written that way for over a decade-plus.
12:05:48 It is simply that -- in past conversations, people have
12:05:53 come forward and asked council --
12:05:55 >>MARY MULHERN: We can amend that rule.
12:05:58 >> Like Denny's, for example, 24 hour diner, they do
12:06:02 not sell alcohol in the city limits because they stay
12:06:03 open 24 hours.
12:06:04 I know in the past, though, there have been issues
12:06:09 concerning --
12:06:10 >>MARY MULHERN: Before we change the most recent
12:06:15 changes, when we set limitations on hours, hours of
12:06:20 operation for the entire business, so this de they did
12:06:22 have to close at a certain hour?
12:06:27 >>CATHERINE COYLE: That's correct.
12:06:27 The hours of sales that you set for special restaurants
12:06:30 in the previously -- most recently adopted amendment,
12:06:34 special restaurants have to close at 11 p.m.
12:06:37 Sunday through Wednesday.
12:06:38 The business shuts down at 11 p.m.
12:06:41 Not just alcohol sales.
12:06:43 The business closes.
12:06:46 That's how the alcohol regulation of chapter 3 is
12:06:49 It's purely for enforcement.
12:06:51 That's why just as an example, TPD knows if a business
12:06:55 stops selling at 3 a.m., the business closes at 3 a.m.
12:06:59 Unless it's a convenience store or grocery store or
12:07:02 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.
12:07:06 This doesn't relate --
12:07:09 >>CATHERINE COYLE: They are code-drafted exceptions.
12:07:12 >>MARY MULHERN: Another thing we are going to have to
12:07:14 deal with at our workshop, I think.
12:07:16 So hopefully we'll keep that in mind.
12:07:18 That's another discussion we should be having at the
12:07:22 alcoholic beverage workshop.
12:07:24 Thank you.
12:07:24 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I'm sorry for the confusion.
12:07:29 Does that preclude us from requesting the hours of
12:07:32 alcohol sales be stated on the site plan?
12:07:37 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Whatever you tie for alcohol sales
12:07:39 plans the business shuts its doors at the exact same
12:07:43 >> So the answer is yes.
12:07:45 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Yes.
12:07:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: All right.
12:07:52 Any further discussion?
12:07:56 Need a motion to close.
12:07:59 Anyone in the audience care to speak on this subject
12:08:01 I have a motion to close by Mr. Suarez, second by Ms.
12:08:06 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
12:08:08 Opposed, nay.
12:08:09 What's the pleasure of council?
12:08:27 I'm not in no rush.
12:08:28 >>MARY MULHERN: Since we seem to have in a rush to go
12:08:34 to lunch, I guess, let me ask, miss Yang, some more
12:08:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Well, we have to open the meeting.
12:08:43 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.
12:08:44 Move to reopen.
12:08:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A motion to reopen by Mrs. Mulhern.
12:08:47 >>MARY MULHERN: I'll make it quick.
12:08:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Second by Mrs. Montelione.
12:08:52 All in favor?
12:08:53 The Ayes have it unanimously.
12:08:54 >>MARY MULHERN: Miss Yang, if you have a midnight
12:08:58 movie, what nights do you do that on?
12:09:01 >> Oh, well, they have a midnight showing of priorities
12:09:05 of the Caribbean tonight, for example.
12:09:08 >>MARY MULHERN: It's like if it's only on weekends?
12:09:13 >> I think a lot of that is driven by particular movie
12:09:17 I know in the past -- priorities of the Caribbean, they
12:09:20 have a midnight showing tonight.
12:09:21 That's going to run -- okay, it just depends on when
12:09:25 the movie runs out.
12:09:26 >> Right.
12:09:28 I think twilight, vampire movie, they have midnight
12:09:31 It just depends on the particular movie.
12:09:33 Not all movies would have a midnight show.
12:09:35 >>MARY MULHERN: So we can't tie the use to anything
12:09:39 like that.
12:09:42 Thank you.
12:09:43 Move to close.
12:09:43 >> Second.
12:09:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Anyone else?
12:09:47 I have a motion to close by Mrs. Mulhern, second by Mr.
12:09:52 Discussion by council members?
12:09:53 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
12:09:56 Opposed, nay.
12:09:57 The Ayes have it unanimously.
12:09:58 >>MARY MULHERN: I move to adopt this ordinance.
12:10:12 And understanding that the hours are problematic.
12:10:21 However, I trust that a movie theater is not going to
12:10:25 be -- not going to be selling alcohol at 3 a.m. to
12:10:37 So I move the ordinance.
12:10:51 Not more than 14% by weight and wines regardless of
12:10:54 alcoholic content beer and wine for consumption at that
12:11:02 certain lot, plot or tract of land located at 18002
12:11:08 highwoods preserve parkway, Tampa, Florida more
12:11:11 particularly described in section 2 hereof providing
12:11:13 for repeal of all ordinances in conflict and the
12:11:37 opening hours agreed to.
12:11:38 >>MIKE SUAREZ: And that it would be put onto the site
12:11:41 plan for approval between first and second reading.
12:11:44 I'm sorry, between -- approval.
12:11:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mrs. Mulhern.
12:11:50 Do I have a second?
12:11:51 Second by Mr. Suarez.
12:11:52 Any further discussion by council members?
12:11:54 All in favor of the motion, please indicate by saying
12:11:57 Opposed, nay.
12:12:00 Motion passes 5-2.
12:12:12 4 to 3. With Montlione, Miranda and Reddick voting no.
12:12:14 We go now to information reports by council members.
12:12:16 >> Could I request that I go last?
12:12:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: All right.
12:12:31 I will honor that.
12:12:33 So we'll go to Mr. Cohen.
12:12:35 >> Thank you, Mr. Chair.
12:12:37 Two items both related to the discussion we had this
12:12:48 The first to schedule budget workshops, one in June and
12:12:53 one in the month of July.
12:12:54 I spent some time looking at the calendar yesterday,
12:12:57 and I would like to propose to council that we schedule
12:13:01 those workshops both directly following the CRA
12:13:06 meetings that are already scheduled for the month of
12:13:08 June and July, which would be Thursday, June 9th,
12:13:12 and Thursday, July 21st.
12:13:16 We will all be here.
12:13:17 And if there's going to be some issues regarding the
12:13:20 availability of the chamber.
12:13:21 So this seems lake a good way of making sure that we
12:13:24 are all here in the chamber is available to us.
12:13:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mr. Cohen, second
12:13:31 by Mrs. Mulhern, for those two days for budget workshop
12:13:36 All in favor signify by saying Aye.
12:13:39 Opposed, nay.
12:13:39 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Suarez voting no.
12:13:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Next item.
12:13:49 >>MIKE COHEN: The second item is related to the City
12:13:51 Council citizens advisory Budget and Finance Committee.
12:13:54 I know that when Councilwoman Mulhern was the chair of
12:13:58 the Finance Committee, this was a committee that I
12:14:03 believe was initiated by her where each City Council
12:14:06 member would appoint someone to serve on this
12:14:10 committee, to scrutinize the budget, to scrutinize the
12:14:14 city's finances and come up with recommendations to
12:14:17 this body regarding ways that we might deal with some
12:14:21 of the challenges that were presented to us this
12:14:26 I know that a previous council already appointed
12:14:29 members to that committee for the coming year.
12:14:33 I was going to inquire as to what council's pleasure is
12:14:36 really regarding three options.
12:14:38 One is whether or not to continue with the committee.
12:14:43 And the second is if we are going to continue, to leave
12:14:47 the committee as constituted or to allow for
12:14:50 reappointment by the new council.
12:15:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I think it's been beneficial to hear
12:15:08 what they have to say in the past, and that started way
12:15:11 back in the 80s, and it was reinstituted again.
12:15:15 I agree that each council member should have the right
12:15:18 to appoint whoever they chose to -- or choose to have
12:15:22 appointed to that committee.
12:15:25 There are new members here.
12:15:26 They should have the right to express their feeling to
12:15:28 a point.
12:15:29 So I agree with that philosophy.
12:15:32 Not that the other people have not done their due
12:15:35 diligence and jobs.
12:15:37 And more likely some of the same ones that get
12:15:40 So I leave that open to the council members who came
12:15:43 Ms. Mulhern.
12:15:44 >>MARY MULHERN: Thanks, Mr. Cohen.
12:15:48 And I did -- I think I made the motion and the
12:15:52 suggestion and put together the idea that we would --
12:15:57 each council person appoint someone.
12:15:59 But council voted to do that.
12:16:03 I initiated it but it was by a vote of former council
12:16:06 that far we did that and I think it has been helpful.
12:16:09 And I don't want to speak for anyone, but I believe
12:16:11 that the budget department actually -- a lot of it was
12:16:18 beneficial to them to have some input from people and I
12:16:22 agree with Mr. Miranda, that we should continue the way
12:16:25 we did appoint them was that each council person
12:16:28 appointed someone and found an individual to represent
12:16:34 So one of the things that if we do that, I think if we
12:16:45 agree that we want to continue this, that we provided
12:16:48 the names for the resolution to appoint people.
12:16:53 So people have an idea if they would want to do that so
12:16:59 the committee can get started.
12:17:00 >> I would make a motion that we reformulate and task
12:17:12 each council member to appoint a member, and that at
12:17:15 our next regularly scheduled meeting every council mesh
12:17:19 will submit that name.
12:17:20 >>SAL TERRITO: Legal department.
12:17:23 A lot of those members have already been chosen by
12:17:25 members of council who are no longer on council.
12:17:27 How do you want to address that?
12:17:29 Do you want those people to continue?
12:17:31 Do you want to ask them to step aside?
12:17:32 That's another issue that has to be addressed.
12:17:34 Those people that were already appointed by some
12:17:37 council members that are no longer here.
12:17:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: That's what we are discussing,
12:17:41 whether new council members should have the right to
12:17:43 appoint who they choose.
12:17:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: What I would do is part of that
12:17:57 resolution would be to repeal the previous -- the
12:18:04 previous resolution.
12:18:04 >>FRANK REDDICK: Is it possible to get a list of
12:18:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Suarez and Mrs. Capin.
12:18:14 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Territo, usually on our boards and
12:18:20 commissions there is a set term.
12:18:24 >>SAL TERRITO: There is a one-year term.
12:18:25 About every year it was done again.
12:18:27 The only reason it's an issue now is because it was
12:18:29 done prior to the election.
12:18:30 So those members, there's nothing to say they have to
12:18:33 continue in office.
12:18:34 >> How long prior to the election was it?
12:18:37 Has it been six months?
12:18:39 >>SAL TERRITO: I don't remember.
12:18:39 >> Well, that's fine.
12:18:42 We can probably craft the resolution to make it more
12:18:46 amenable to the way that we get elected.
12:18:50 Thank you.
12:18:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Ms. Capin?
12:18:53 >>YVONNE CAPIN: It was in January, some of them.
12:18:58 There were vacancies.
12:19:00 We are pointing them for a year.
12:19:02 But there is no -- we can do this again, correct?
12:19:08 I just want to make sure.
12:19:10 >>MARY MULHERN: Since you brought that up, I think it
12:19:15 would make sense to do it kind of concurrent with our
12:19:19 So to expire March 31st.
12:19:29 So that the next council will --
12:19:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Any further discussion of that?
12:19:36 Mr. Cohen?
12:19:38 Any other things?
12:19:44 >>THE CLERK: The motion was not vote on.
12:19:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I didn't know which option you want.
12:19:48 First of all, do you want to continue it?
12:19:49 That's one.
12:19:50 And --
12:19:54 >>MIKE COHEN: I move that we formulate the committee
12:19:56 that we ask each council member to appoint a new
12:20:00 member, and that the term expire on March 3 st,
12:20:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: If there are any changes that means
12:20:07 the council will have to remove whoever was there and
12:20:12 the ones they appointed as someone new.
12:20:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: We would have to craft that carefully
12:20:16 because norm there has to be a basis for it unless you
12:20:21 appoint at the pleasure --
12:20:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: That's exactly way was saying.
12:20:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: At the council member whose appointee
12:20:27 you are.
12:20:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Right.
12:20:30 Any further discussion?
12:20:31 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying
12:20:33 Opposed, nay.
12:20:34 The Ayes have it unanimously.
12:20:35 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
12:20:39 A few items.
12:20:40 First, I would like to -- I have a motion to ask
12:20:44 attorney Martin Shelby to prepare a resolution for
12:20:47 placement on the June 2nd agenda declaring the
12:20:51 month of June as hurricane awareness month.
12:20:55 This is at the request of the Tampa Bay Regional
12:20:58 Planning Council who does our disaster preparedness,
12:21:04 and they have asked us to do that.
12:21:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mrs. Mulhern, seconded by
12:21:09 Mr. Suarez.
12:21:10 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
12:21:12 Opposed, nay.
12:21:13 The ayes have it unanimously.
12:21:14 >>MARY MULHERN: Secondly, I would like to put on our
12:21:18 September -- motion to place on our September 15th
12:21:24 workshop agenda historic preservation workshop that
12:21:31 will be organized by Dennis Fernandez, our historic
12:21:37 preservation department, and to discuss the city's
12:21:42 historic preservation status.
12:21:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mrs. Mulhern,
12:21:47 seconded by Mr. Cohen.
12:21:50 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
12:21:54 Yes, sir?
12:21:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Could you state a time for the
12:21:58 You have one workshop set for 9 a.m., the WMBE program
12:22:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: That's fine.
12:22:06 We can have two.
12:22:06 >> I am going to propose a third.
12:22:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Listen, we can stay till 1:00
12:22:14 without eating.
12:22:15 We can handle three or four.
12:22:16 >>MARY MULHERN: Is that passed?
12:22:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Yes.
12:22:24 >>MARY MULHERN: Third, I was asked by one of our city
12:22:28 attorneys, assistant city attorney Jan McLean who
12:22:30 handles all of our kilowatt issues to put on our agenda
12:22:40 for a workshop -- our workshop this month a
12:22:52 presentation the estuary program on May 26th during
12:22:59 our workshop meeting, and I think at 10:30 regarding
12:23:03 the legislation and available alternatives to local
12:23:06 governments including impending deadlines with regard
12:23:12 to sales of fertilizer restrictions, and the reason for
12:23:20 this is because in the session, the house bill 7217
12:23:27 placed a restriction on local governments enacting
12:23:32 restrictions on sales of fertilizer, and the estuary
12:23:36 program has been working on this regionally, and
12:23:42 Pinellas County passed -- has already passed a
12:23:45 restriction and some of the other counties and
12:23:47 municipalities are working on it.
12:23:49 But basically, we have only until July 1st if we
12:23:53 decide that we want to restrict fertilizer, which
12:24:00 affects the water quality in the bay, and which is a
12:24:03 big problem for us, and this is one of the things we
12:24:06 might be able to do.
12:24:07 So I would like to ask that the estuary program be able
12:24:12 to make a presentation of that workshop on May 26th
12:24:17 simply because if we were -- didn't want to take -- did
12:24:21 want to take any action we would have to do it the next
12:24:24 month to have any effect.
12:24:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mrs. Mulhern, seconded by
12:24:28 Mrs. Capin on a close vote with Mrs. Montelione.
12:24:31 All in favor indicate by saying Aye.
12:24:33 The Ayes have it.
12:24:34 >>MARY MULHERN: That's it for me.
12:24:36 Thank you.
12:24:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Reddick?
12:24:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: I only have one, and that is
12:24:41 requesting accommodation for greater Bethel missionary
12:24:46 Baptist church who will receive a historical mark May
12:24:54 22nd, the church from 1893, and designated on their
12:25:06 234 all in favor?
12:25:09 Motion carried unanimously.
12:25:10 Mrs. Capin.
12:25:11 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Under file E-2 oh 001-8, CH 27, chapter
12:25:18 27, which was in the evening session of the 14th
12:25:22 for the workshop May 26th, I would like to amend as
12:25:28 follows, that the council schedule a workshop, did
12:25:31 schedule a workshop on May 26th to discuss possible
12:25:34 solutions, and I would like to amend it to also include
12:25:40 Russell pick cola, City of Tampa fire marshal, to
12:25:43 provide input on said workshop.
12:25:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: This is invitation to an individual
12:25:48 on the scheduled workshop, made by Mrs. Capin, seconded
12:25:51 by Mrs. Mulhern.
12:25:52 Further discussion of that motion?
12:25:54 All in favor indicate by saying Aye.
12:25:57 Opposed, nay.
12:25:58 The ayes have it unanimously.
12:26:00 >>YVONNE CAPIN: And secondly, I would like to make a
12:26:03 motion to present a commendation to Middleton Magnet
12:26:07 high schools, robotic program, and coach Hans Wolf to
12:26:11 honor their recent success of the 2011 championship
12:26:16 earning $120,000 in scholarship money.
12:26:19 And I'm waiting for a response if they could come in
12:26:25 two weeks to receive that.
12:26:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mrs. Capin,
12:26:28 second by Mrs. Mulhern.
12:26:30 Discussion by council?
12:26:32 All in favor?
12:26:33 The Ayes have it unanimously.
12:26:35 Anything else?
12:26:36 Mr. Suarez?
12:26:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: No new business.
12:26:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Good man.
12:26:39 Mrs. Montelione.
12:26:40 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
12:26:42 I would like -- I have several motions.
12:26:46 Again we are going to have to get out the calendars.
12:26:48 The first motion is to add to the June 16th
12:26:54 workshop date of changes to chapter 19 of the City of
12:27:01 Tampa code, structural standards.
12:27:04 These were outlined in the memorandum received from
12:27:08 city attorney Shimberg on May 18th.
12:27:12 I believe the two or three issues that will be given is
12:27:17 orders filling out the specific violation, cure of
12:27:21 notices, opportunity to appeal code enforcement,
12:27:24 special magistrate decisions, the new billing
12:27:26 procedures, and the hazardous tree code standards.
12:27:34 Those are the items for discussion to be added on June
12:27:37 16th and that should only take about 15 minutes.
12:27:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I will hold to you 15 minutes.
12:27:46 >> No, hold him to 15 minutes.
12:27:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Second by Mrs. Cohen.
12:27:53 All in favor are? Motion passes unanimously.
12:27:57 >>LISA MONTELIONE: The second motion is to change one
12:27:59 of the policies on the consent agenda.
12:28:00 I would like to make a motion to have any items
12:28:02 requesting approval of contracts in excess of $1
12:28:05 million be placed on the regular agenda instead of the
12:28:08 consent agenda.
12:28:09 And the reason that I am proposing this change is as we
12:28:13 heard this morning from our revenue and finance
12:28:15 department, our decisions as we make them regularly
12:28:23 will have great impact on our budget, and I believe
12:28:26 that -- today we saw two or three resolutions for on
12:28:31 the consent agenda, one in excess of $4 million, one in
12:28:35 excess of 1.6 million and the other at $994,000 that we
12:28:40 approved on consent.
12:28:41 And I believe of that not only for ourselves but for
12:28:44 the taxpayers and citizens we represent that they
12:28:49 should be looked at during regular agenda rather than
12:28:53 pass on consent.
12:28:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mrs. Montelione, seconded
12:28:57 by Mr. Reddick.
12:28:59 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying
12:29:01 Opposed, nay.
12:29:02 Ayes have it unanimously.
12:29:04 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thirdly is something that I just
12:29:08 want to point to, we approved a resolution item number
12:29:13 10 regarding the acceptance of artifact from the World
12:29:15 Trade Center, and having had family in that building on
12:29:21 9/11, they thankfully did get out in time, but it's
12:29:27 very emotional and I am going to tear up here, but it's
12:29:30 a very emotional motion that we had this morning.
12:29:33 It was on consent.
12:29:34 I didn't have a chance to speak to it.
12:29:36 But I hope that the artifacts we are entrusted with are
12:29:41 respectfully displayed and preserved by our Parks
12:29:45 Department as I'm sure they will do a fabulous job with
12:29:48 So I just wanted to make mention of that and call
12:29:51 attention to it.
12:29:52 Fourthly, workshops.
12:29:56 Again September 15th.
12:30:00 I talked to revenue and finance about this workshop, as
12:30:03 it plays into their purview.
12:30:06 That we hold a workshop on efficiency measures at
12:30:09 10:30 a.m., September 15th, to discuss issues
12:30:12 including but not limited to office space and energy
12:30:16 improvements, and that we invite several people not
12:30:20 limited to Ray Herbert, facility department director,
12:30:27 and Randy Artswell and Randy Klindworth from
12:30:30 Hillsborough County who is the current energy manager
12:30:32 from Hillsborough County.
12:30:32 >> I have a motion by Mrs. Montelione.
12:30:38 Mrs. Mulhern has the floor.
12:30:39 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
12:30:40 I would like to just ask that you invite Thom Snelling
12:30:43 who is our -- has been our one person in green
12:30:50 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Yes, absolutely.
12:30:55 And again revenue and finance are also requested to be
12:30:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A motion by Mrs. Montelione, second
12:31:01 by Mrs. Mulhern.
12:31:03 Further discussion by council members?
12:31:04 All in favor please indicate by saying Aye.
12:31:07 The Ayes are getting slower and slower.
12:31:12 Motion passes unanimously.
12:31:14 >> Thank you, council members.
12:31:16 And fifth, on my list is a motion to call a special
12:31:20 session of council on Tuesday, June 14th at 2:00
12:31:24 canceling the meeting of the Community Redevelopment
12:31:26 Agency for the purpose of rescheduling the land
12:31:30 development workshop which is originally scheduled for
12:31:33 9:30 a.m. on June 16th.
12:31:36 The reason for that is Cathy Coyle will be not
12:31:39 available on June 16th to hold that workshop.
12:31:42 We had previously agreed to have that workshop on the
12:31:44 Land Development Code prior to our moving forward with
12:31:48 changes to the code, and chair Reddick has graciously
12:31:52 accepted the cancellation of the CRA meeting that day.
12:31:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A motion by Mrs. Montelione,
12:32:00 seconded by Mr. Suarez.
12:32:02 Any further discussion by council members?
12:32:04 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
12:32:07 Opposed nay.
12:32:09 Motion passes unanimously.
12:32:10 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Lastly, I would like to, in honor
12:32:15 of our lightning that is doing so well, they are going
12:32:23 to lead us to the Stanley Cup.
12:32:25 And I say go Bolts.
12:32:26 >> Mr. Chairman, you already have a blue beard.
12:32:32 You need to put it on.
12:32:35 [ Laughter ]
12:32:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Any on the questions to come before
12:32:44 City Council?
12:32:45 I need to receive and file any other documents that
12:32:48 might have come in, slipped through the crack before
12:32:50 this body, the clerk's office.
12:32:52 Need a motion to that effect.
12:32:54 I have a motion by Mrs. Capin, second by Mrs.
12:32:58 All in favor of the motion indicate by saying Aye.
12:33:00 Opposed, nay.
12:33:01 The Ayes have it unanimously.
12:33:03 Any further business to come before this council?
12:33:05 Anyone in the audience care to speak to this council?
12:33:07 I see none.
12:33:09 We stand adjourned.
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