TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
Thursday, September 22, 2011
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09:08:55 >> Good morning and welcome to Tampa City Council.
09:08:57 The Chair yields to Councilmember Reddick, who will
09:09:04 introduce our invocation.
09:09:07 >>FRANK REDDICK: Good morning.
09:09:07 Thank you, Madam Chair.
09:09:09 I'd like to acknowledge Dr. Tom Atchison, pastor of New Life
09:09:17 Thank you.
09:09:18 >> Please stand.
09:09:19 Heavenly Father, we thank you for your mercy and your
09:09:29 precious grace.
09:09:30 We ask that you give wisdom in these important matters
09:09:35 And as your creation, we want to protect and cultivate your
09:09:41 people to obtain the full potential to serve you.
09:09:45 We thank you for another day of opportunity, to serve you
09:09:50 and to be your servants.
09:09:52 In your precious name, Amen.
09:09:54 Could we say the Pledge of Allegiance.
09:09:59 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:10:16 >>MARY MULHERN: Roll call, please.
09:10:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
09:10:20 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Present.
09:10:21 >>FRANK REDDICK: Here.
09:10:22 >>MARY MULHERN: Here.
09:10:24 >>HARRY COHEN: Here.
09:10:25 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Here.
09:10:32 >>MARY MULHERN: I'd like a motion to adopt the minutes from
09:10:35 our last meeting.
09:10:36 >> So moved.
09:10:36 >> Second.
09:10:38 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?
09:10:39 Anyone opposed?
09:10:40 Council, I'd like to ask your support in making a couple of
09:10:51 We do have Councilmember Cohen has a proclamation to
09:10:57 present, which would be under, normally be under ceremonial
09:11:04 I'd like for him to be able to do that.
09:11:06 And then, have the approval of the agenda after that, at
09:11:12 which time I would like to move item one to, after approval
09:11:18 of the agenda and after public comments, because there are a
09:11:22 lot of people here today, I believe, to speak to item one.
09:11:27 So, and that would be their only opportunity.
09:11:29 So Council would agree to do that?
09:11:32 Thank you.
09:11:33 Councilmember Cohen?
09:11:50 >>HARRY COHEN: We have some guests with us today from the
09:11:54 Moffitt Cancer Center.
09:11:55 And I'm going to introduce one of them to speak to you in
09:11:58 just a moment.
09:11:59 But first, I want to announce that the month of
09:12:03 September 2011 has been declared national prostate cancer
09:12:07 awareness month.
09:12:08 Prostate cancer is the most frequently diagnosed cancer in
09:12:11 men, as well as the second leading cause of cancer death in
09:12:15 American men.
09:12:15 The Tampa City Council joins with Moffitt Cancer Center in
09:12:20 recognizing the months of 2011 as prostate cancer awareness
09:12:24 month, to enhance the understanding of this disease and
09:12:27 encourage participation in voluntary activity to support
09:12:30 education programs and the funding of research programs to
09:12:34 find a cure.
09:12:35 I'd like to present John DeMuro, vice-president of
09:12:38 government relations at the Moffitt Cancer Center.
09:12:41 >> Thank you, Councilmember.
09:12:42 I'm going to yield to Michael Latini.
09:12:46 >> Hello, Council.
09:12:47 I would like to thank you for this recognition of September
09:12:49 being prostate cancer awareness month.
09:12:53 I'm a USF senior, majoring in political science.
09:12:56 I'm serving Moffitt as an intern in our government relations
09:12:59 Next month, Moffitt will be celebrating its
09:13:02 25th anniversary.
09:13:04 In this time, Moffitt has provided care for thousands of
09:13:12 family members here in the Tampa area.
09:13:13 Moffitt has grown to be one of the top leading institutes in
09:13:17 the country.
09:13:18 We could not do that without the support of Tampa.
09:13:20 Now I'd like to introduce Dr. Brian Rivers, one of Moffitt's
09:13:25 lead researchers.
09:13:27 >> Good morning City Council, Madam Chair and City Council
09:13:30 Thank you for reading our proclamation and supporting our
09:13:34 efforts around prostate cancer awareness in Hillsborough
09:13:37 County and throughout the state of Florida.
09:13:38 On behalf of Moffitt Cancer Center, we appreciate you
09:13:42 helping us with efforts to increase effort, realizing this
09:13:46 is a disease when found early is 100% treatable.
09:13:49 We realize men are extending beyond the ten year survival
09:13:53 mark post treatment.
09:13:53 We thank you this morning for assisting with supporting our
09:13:56 effort in increasing awareness around prostate cancer.
09:13:59 I will introduce Jim Wallace, a very strong supporter of
09:14:04 Moffitt and awareness activities.
09:14:06 He's been out in the battlefield really reaching men,
09:14:10 increasing their awareness towards this disease.
09:14:12 Jim Wallace.
09:14:15 >> The City Council, I want to thank the members that are
09:14:19 present now and the past Councilmembers for their support as
09:14:25 to prostate cancer awareness.
09:14:28 And the party for all the health fairs that was put on as to
09:14:34 the examination of men and making men aware of their body.
09:14:39 We are still out there trying to make men aware that they
09:14:46 should get their body checked at least once a year.
09:14:51 And that if there's any problem, any family history, one way
09:14:59 or the other, they need to seriously look at it as to
09:15:05 staying healthy in that area.
09:15:07 Moffitt Cancer Center has been wonderful as to my working
09:15:13 with them as to cancer awareness.
09:15:16 And I'm going to continue to work with them as to the
09:15:21 awareness of prostate cancer, especially with men that is
09:15:26 hard, as you know, to get to the doctor to be examined for
09:15:30 So with that, I thank you very much.
09:15:36 >> Thank you very much.
09:15:38 [ Applause ]
09:15:52 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you for the research and education
09:15:54 work you're doing on this.
09:15:56 It's fantastic.
09:15:57 We will now move to the approval of the agenda.
09:16:11 >> Good morning, Councilmember.
09:16:13 To review the addendum to the agenda for September 22nd,
09:16:20 2011, at our 9:00 a.m. session, as far as the substitution
09:16:25 of item, agenda items, item number 57, we have a memorandum
09:16:32 from the legal department transmitting a substitute
09:16:35 resolution to include the standard release of easement
09:16:39 The title of the substitute resolution is reflected on the
09:16:44 On item number 116, we have a memorandum from the legal
09:16:50 department transmitting a substitute ordinance pertaining to
09:16:54 the posting of conditions of alcoholic beverage permit.
09:16:59 The title of the substitute ordinance is reflected on the
09:17:02 Under continuance or removal of items, item number 5, we
09:17:09 have a memorandum from Catherine Coyle, zoning
09:17:13 administrator, requesting a continuance to October 20th,
09:17:18 Item number 61, we have a memorandum from the legal
09:17:24 department requesting a continuance to October 6th, 2011.
09:17:30 Item number 117, we have a memorandum from the legal
09:17:37 department requesting a continuance to November 3rd, 2011.
09:17:41 Item number 118, we have a memorandum from Tonja Brickhouse,
09:17:51 director of solid waste and environmental program
09:17:54 management, requesting a continuance to October 6th, 2011.
09:17:58 Under item number 125, we have a memorandum from David
09:18:05 Vaughn, director of contract administration department,
09:18:08 requesting that the resolution be removed from the agenda.
09:18:11 Under item number 126, we have another memorandum from David
09:18:18 Vaughn requesting that that resolution be removed from the
09:18:22 Under special notes to the meeting or agenda, item number
09:18:29 121, we have a memorandum transmitting three ordinances for
09:18:36 Council's consideration.
09:18:37 Under items removed from the committee report or consent
09:18:44 agenda, item number 34, we have a verbal request of Chair
09:18:49 Pro Tem Mulhern to pull that item for discussion.
09:18:52 That's item number 34.
09:18:55 Item number 52, we have an e-mail from Chair Pro Tem Mulhern
09:19:02 requesting that this item be pulled for discussion and heard
09:19:06 with item number 34.
09:19:07 And now, we're requesting your approval of the agenda.
09:19:15 >> Move to approve.
09:19:16 >> Second.
09:19:18 >>MARY MULHERN: Council, I just want to make sure that
09:19:22 everyone is in agreement to all these changes, because a
09:19:28 number of these continuances were to items that were
09:19:36 motioned by Council, and so, if everyone is okay with that.
09:19:46 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I'd like to 116.
09:19:54 That -- please refresh me.
09:20:02 >>MARY MULHERN: That is the alcoholic beverages.
09:20:04 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I know what it is.
09:20:05 I'm asking --
09:20:06 >>MARY MULHERN: They have a substitute ordinance.
09:20:07 And if you're the maker of the motion, if you're comfortable
09:20:11 with that.
09:20:11 That's my question.
09:20:13 If everyone is comfortable with the changes, the
09:20:15 substitutions or continuances.
09:20:20 But that will come up under staff reports, so we can discuss
09:20:23 it at that point.
09:20:25 >>YVONNE CAPIN: All right.
09:20:27 >>MARY MULHERN: I just want to, just for staff sake say that
09:20:32 the two items that I pulled from the consent agenda can be
09:20:36 heard at the very end of the meeting, if Brad Baird and
09:20:39 Roger Strout could come over, because Roger will be here for
09:20:43 item 124, I believe, so, 34 and I believe it was 52, can be
09:20:49 heard at the end of the meeting.
09:20:54 All in favor of the agenda changes -- Councilmember Cohen?
09:20:58 >>HARRY COHEN: Was it seconded?
09:20:59 >>MARY MULHERN: Yes, we had a second.
09:21:00 We had a motion by Councilmember Reddick, seconded by
09:21:06 Councilmember Cohen.
09:21:07 All in favor, aye.
09:21:09 Anyone opposed?
09:21:12 Because, as we can all see, not only from the agenda, the
09:21:24 number of people in the audience and the very complex
09:21:29 changes to the agenda that we just went over, this is,
09:21:33 promises to be a long meeting, with a lot of discussion, a
09:21:37 lot of public comment.
09:21:38 And, which will necessitate a lot of discussion by Council.
09:21:45 So, I'd like to at this point, before we start, just bring
09:21:49 everyone's attention to some of our Council rules of
09:21:53 procedure, so that we can make sure that this meeting goes
09:21:58 as quickly as smoothly as possible.
09:22:00 So, under rule number 4 in our Council's rules of procedure,
09:22:08 it's our parliamentary policies, and I've never, since I've
09:22:13 been brief time as chair pro tem and conducting these
09:22:18 meetings, I haven't had to refer to these, but if I think
09:22:22 there are any days we need to stick to our rules, it's
09:22:25 So, rule 4-G, no Councilmember shall introduce a motion or
09:22:30 speak to a subject under discussion without recognition by
09:22:33 the Chair.
09:22:34 When more than one member requests recognition at the same
09:22:37 time, the order of speakers will be decided as fairly as
09:22:40 possible by the Chair.
09:22:41 So, I'm trying.
09:22:42 And I will try, as I always do, to recognize you.
09:22:46 But I'd like to ask that you reach out with your hand, if
09:22:50 you're not always doing that, because if I get a nod or a,
09:22:55 you know, sign language from you, I don't necessarily know.
09:22:59 I want to make sure that we all get to speak and we do the
09:23:02 order fairly.
09:23:03 So I'm just asking for that.
09:23:04 Then rule number H, Councilmembers, 4-H, refrain from
09:23:10 speaking more than twice on the same subjects at the same
09:23:13 meeting and should not be recognized by the Chair to speak
09:23:15 the second time if another member who has not spoken to the
09:23:18 question desires the floor.
09:23:19 And I think we generally do this, but it's just a reminder
09:23:24 that we want everybody to be able to speak before anyone
09:23:27 speaks again.
09:23:28 But I am going to hold it to two times today.
09:23:31 So, before you ask to speak, make sure that you have
09:23:37 everything that you want to say in mind, so you can do it at
09:23:40 that point.
09:23:41 And now, it is time for public comment.
09:23:47 Can we have a motion -- no, we don't need to open that.
09:23:52 Meeting is open.
09:23:53 Public comment, I'd like to ask the public, anyone who is
09:23:57 here to speak to raise your hand at this point and let me
09:24:01 also remind you that I believe what many people are here for
09:24:07 today, are two items.
09:24:11 The solicitation ordinance, which is near the end of our
09:24:15 agenda, and the discussion of Cuba, which is at the
09:24:21 But, your opportunity to speak on those items is right now.
09:24:25 So anyone who wishes to speak on those two items, it would
09:24:30 be very helpful if we could have you either stand up or at
09:24:33 least raise your hand.
09:24:35 So we know how many people wish to speak.
09:24:47 >>MARY MULHERN: The items are -- anything on the agenda,
09:24:51 anything you wish to speak to on the agenda, now is the time
09:24:55 to speak.
09:24:55 Unless it's a public hearing which are items -- where do our
09:25:05 public hearings start?
09:25:09 Unless you're here for anything after item number --
09:25:19 Mr. Shelby?
09:25:20 Maybe you could advise.
09:25:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Your items for public hearing are items 106
09:25:25 through 113.
09:25:26 Anything that is set for the consent docket or ceremonial,
09:25:31 or staff reports, the time to speak to that, as the Chair
09:25:34 has stated, is now, agenda public comments.
09:25:39 >>MARY MULHERN: Right.
09:25:39 I should've said that.
09:25:40 Anything on the agenda, or off the agenda that you wish to
09:25:44 speak to, is right now.
09:25:45 We are going to hear from, I hope to hear from the people
09:25:49 who are speaking on agenda items first.
09:25:51 So, can I see the show of hands again, now that we have
09:25:56 Our rules show we have 30 minutes per public comment.
09:26:08 And three minutes a person.
09:26:09 So, I think it might be -- counsel can advise if you'd like
09:26:18 to ask people to speak for two, or we could open the public
09:26:21 comment period for longer than 30 minutes.
09:26:25 I believe it will be -- if people are speaking three minutes
09:26:28 at a time, it will need to go longer.
09:26:30 So what's the pleasure of Council?
09:26:33 >> Move to extend the time for public comment.
09:26:36 >> To an hour?
09:26:39 >>LISA MONTELIONE: To however long it takes for everyone to
09:26:40 have three minutes.
09:26:42 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.
09:26:43 If it gets close to an hour, we may need to revisit that.
09:26:48 I'm also going to ask that people -- keep it as brief as you
09:26:52 can, and also, if you -- Councilmember Suarez?
09:26:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Ask we maybe set a time certain?
09:27:00 I think it will be easier to deal with that as opposed to,
09:27:03 you know, because we'll be here quite a long time, based on
09:27:07 the number of hands I just saw go up.
09:27:09 >>MARY MULHERN: Well, one hour would probably be 10:30.
09:27:12 The other question is, normally -- when we have
09:27:18 quasi-judicial proceedings, we have the speaker waiver form
09:27:22 That's not normally what we do during public comment.
09:27:25 Are those available?
09:27:28 We could use those if people would like to speak for other.
09:27:36 >> That would require a waiver of your rules.
09:27:39 >>MARY MULHERN: I'm just wondering if those forms are
09:27:41 available, if we should even do that.
09:27:45 >> They're in the hallway.
09:27:46 But normally those are not available for public comments,
09:27:48 because people could waive their time and allow people to
09:27:51 speak longer than three minutes.
09:27:54 Or however long you set.
09:27:56 >>MARY MULHERN: But they waive their three minutes and give
09:27:59 one minute, so that would shorten our public comment if
09:28:02 people wish to do that.
09:28:03 Would Council agree to do that?
09:28:07 If an individual would like to speak for people in the
09:28:10 audience, they could get the speaker waiver form to do that?
09:28:15 >> Especially if it's going to be the same issue for each
09:28:18 and every person that comes up, I think that's probably the
09:28:20 best way of handling it.
09:28:26 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilmember Reddick?
09:28:28 >>FRANK REDDICK: Yes, Madam Chair.
09:28:29 I'd just want some clarification.
09:28:31 If we have people here who want to speak, where we have a
09:28:33 public hearing at 9:30, and if they speak now, would it be
09:28:40 entitled to speak once that issue comes up at 9:30?
09:28:44 >>MARY MULHERN: If they're going to speak at 9:30, they
09:28:47 shouldn't speak now on that issue.
09:28:48 That should be the time to speak, if it's one of those items
09:28:51 public hearing, would be at the time on the public hearing.
09:28:55 >>FRANK REDDICK: Okay.
09:28:56 >>MARY MULHERN: And it probably won't happen at 9:30,
09:28:57 because it is 9:30.
09:29:00 >> Madam Chair, I would ask Council if they wish to utilize
09:29:04 speaker waiver form for agenda public comments, that being a
09:29:06 deviation of the rules, if you could do it by motion and
09:29:10 vote to waive the rules.
09:29:11 >> Can I have a motion to do that?
09:29:13 To waive the rules.
09:29:14 >> I so move.
09:29:15 >> Second.
09:29:16 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?
09:29:17 Anyone opposed?
09:29:20 There are other speaker waiver forms, our clerk is going to
09:29:24 put them at the podium?
09:29:29 >> Madam Chair, just a reminder please to the audience, that
09:29:32 speaker waiver forms should be completed in advance of you
09:29:36 coming up, having the signatures or the names legibly
09:29:40 printed of those people who are present who will be waiving
09:29:42 their time.
09:29:43 Please hand me those forms.
09:29:45 I will call the names of those people who are waiving their
09:29:48 time and if you can acknowledge by raising your hand and
09:29:50 then the amount of time will be computed and then you can
09:29:55 proceed, please.
09:29:56 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
09:29:57 Public comment?
09:30:00 Mr. Tillou?
09:30:03 >> Thank you.
09:30:03 You know me.
09:30:06 >> I have a lot of specialized knowledge I'm trying to bring
09:30:09 to the Council's attention.
09:30:10 I have four degrees going on to six.
09:30:12 That's the reason I'm down here going on to six.
09:30:16 But I do other things too.
09:30:17 That's where a lot of my inputs come from.
09:30:20 I have a master in public health.
09:30:22 You have this commemoration on prostate cancer.
09:30:25 The two key things on that are the communities that you have
09:30:28 a high occurrence of this are the ones that are alerted.
09:30:31 Even if you have to take money from the other communities
09:30:33 where you can cause problems with that, another thing too is
09:30:36 that tomato juice is supposed to reduce prostate cancer.
09:30:43 It's not an answer to it, but anyway.
09:30:45 What I mostly came to speak about is tangential to item 19,
09:30:50 that picks up on a workshop that I spoke at about the need
09:30:52 for more attention to history.
09:30:54 And in the paper, I noticed something that passed by
09:30:58 probably most people, but is a key and critical thing.
09:31:02 City of Tampa has come by something very wonderful.
09:31:04 Whoever is over the airport now deserves a lot of
09:31:11 But getting flights from Zurich.
09:31:13 People don't realize the importance of flights from Zurich.
09:31:18 Zurich is the money capital of Switzerland.
09:31:21 I used to belong to a blond.
09:31:24 I learned a lot about Switzerland.
09:31:28 Zurich is the money capital of Switzerland and roughly of
09:31:34 Europe as a whole.
09:31:36 There are things people have to realize, what's happened
09:31:39 over the last 30 years.
09:31:40 I was never a fan of Bill Clinton.
09:31:43 But he called down fire in his own position.
09:31:47 He said the economics we have now goes back 30 years.
09:31:50 This has been 30 years in the making.
09:31:52 So, if the mayor wants to go up to New York, that's probably
09:31:55 another basket case, another economic basket case.
09:31:59 You want to put the money into Zurich.
09:32:01 You could get a lot of tourism coming here, money coming
09:32:04 into the community by, like on the aircraft, pirates of the
09:32:07 Caribbean on stranger tides, about the fountain of youth.
09:32:11 Because the fountain of youth really did exist.
09:32:14 It was in Safety Harbor.
09:32:15 There's a resort around it now.
09:32:17 You could enter into some sort of relationship to publicize
09:32:20 both of them at the same time.
09:32:22 On the airplanes, they could show that movie.
09:32:26 They could show Cocoon that also is based on that.
09:32:30 I wanted to transition from that to curb that's being put in
09:32:35 Sulphur Spring.
09:32:36 The problem with that, and it's probably been on the books
09:32:39 to do it for years, this is six or seven foot wide
09:32:44 sidewalks, and I think the sidewalks could be a foot or two
09:32:50 narrower to provide for bicycle lanes.
09:32:52 Someone came here, I don't know where they were talking
09:32:55 about, but they said Nebraska Avenue is fine.
09:32:57 No, Nebraska Avenue isn't fine for bicycles.
09:33:00 It's got about a foot.
09:33:01 Supposed to have three foot.
09:33:02 If you had to take a foot or two from the sidewalks to not
09:33:06 have bicycles on the sidewalks I think most pedestrians
09:33:08 would view that positively.
09:33:10 And then you need park tests with the stormwater management.
09:33:15 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
09:33:22 >> Good morning, Council.
09:33:23 My name is Diane Hart, 2912 north 26th street.
09:33:27 I just want to thank you all for allowing East Tampa
09:33:31 business and civic association another opportunity to help
09:33:36 residents in the East Tampa area and around the city.
09:33:39 We have been providing homeowner rehab for the last past
09:33:43 And I'm going to send to you all a waiting list of what it
09:33:47 looks like in our city for the several hundred people
09:33:50 throughout the City of Tampa it's raining on and some other
09:33:54 But I just want to say thank you very much for allowing
09:33:58 dollars to be spent in and around East Tampa and throughout
09:34:01 the city.
09:34:02 We're not just spending all our money in East Tampa.
09:34:05 However, we're concentrating on our seniors and the worst of
09:34:08 the worst houses that homeowners live in.
09:34:13 So again thank you very much for the opportunity to serve
09:34:15 our community in this capacity.
09:34:17 We're very excited about helping homeowners.
09:34:20 And we just want to ask you all to please, if there's ever
09:34:23 any money anywhere, please consider giving it to some
09:34:26 organization that can continue to help homeowners in their
09:34:29 quest to be able to live in their own houses.
09:34:32 Thank you very much.
09:34:33 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
09:34:38 >> Want to thank all the Councils who gave me the
09:34:45 opportunity to talk here.
09:34:46 I'm nervous.
09:34:48 I was born in Tampa.
09:34:52 >>MARY MULHERN: Can you give us your name please for the
09:34:55 >> Abelardo Arteago, but they call me Al.
09:35:03 I love Tampa.
09:35:04 That's where I was born.
09:35:06 And I'm concerned about the whole city.
09:35:11 The port authority, the economy the way it's coming.
09:35:17 And I think, I believe that it's time to we try to get
09:35:28 connection with other countries that I visit about few days
09:35:35 I was on the flight the 8th of September to go from Tampa to
09:35:42 That's history.
09:35:44 Never, it was that opportunity to the people who got family
09:35:52 there, there are thousands, to be able to just one, one
09:36:01 Not need to go to Miami.
09:36:03 And always.
09:36:05 So, I was very happy and I was hoping that this will
09:36:13 Not only continue, try to be involved and doing some kind of
09:36:21 business with Cuba.
09:36:23 Cuba needs it.
09:36:24 And we also needs it.
09:36:27 I think it's a lot, a lot of things that we can sell and
09:36:35 I just want to put one sample, a mango, a mango, the papaya,
09:36:42 a lot of mango, can be picked up in Cuba.
09:36:45 In about maybe a day or two, we be eating it over here in
09:36:52 And that will bring, for instance, in the field of
09:37:02 medicines, they need a lot of medicine for children's.
09:37:06 For people, and we probably could sell it to them.
09:37:12 So, believe me, I think we should start talking.
09:37:18 Sit down and talk and try to come to understand them and
09:37:28 they understand us.
09:37:30 So, I hope we see that coming soon.
09:37:35 Tampa needs it.
09:37:45 Thank you very much.
09:37:47 And I hope we all get together in something.
09:37:52 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
09:37:52 [ Applause ]
09:37:59 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay, after this, let's hold our applause.
09:38:05 >> Don't applause me, please.
09:38:07 That's really tough to match.
09:38:10 First of all, about Cuba.
09:38:12 My father was an architect.
09:38:15 Back in the '50s, late '40s, he designed and built the
09:38:19 Havana Rivera.
09:38:21 I heard so many stories about Cuba as I was growing up.
09:38:24 But unfortunately, I was never allowed to go.
09:38:27 I miss it.
09:38:29 I've got pictures of my father's architectural work, it's
09:38:34 It was a beautiful building back in the '50s.
09:38:36 Unfortunately, I don't think this subject should come up at
09:38:40 City Council, due to the fact that it was not a City Council
09:38:45 function or supported subject.
09:38:47 Beyond that, that's all I have to say on Cuba.
09:38:50 I would love to see it.
09:38:52 Second thing I'm very interested about, I've been trying to
09:38:57 locate public records through the City of Tampa for the
09:39:00 report on the Cuscaden pool in 2005.
09:39:06 Reason I'm looking for this report, it will show the
09:39:09 waterproofing material was requested and wanted by the
09:39:14 But it was not installed per administrative contract
09:39:23 This is what caused the entire pool to create the problem.
09:39:28 That we now have to spend another $1.5 million to repair
09:39:32 what we have spent $2.3 million on.
09:39:34 And someone needs to be held accountable.
09:39:37 Unfortunately, those documents are missing.
09:39:40 The last time I had missing documents was in code
09:39:43 enforcement under the previous director, when I found code
09:39:47 files destroyed, burned, torn up, to protect personal
09:39:52 friends and relatives.
09:39:54 The last thing I want to talk about is panhandling.
09:40:00 We have discussed this, we have looked at it inside and out,
09:40:05 up, down.
09:40:06 I mean, this is like the federal government that can't
09:40:09 decide on a budget.
09:40:10 Come on, people.
09:40:13 We need to make a move, one way or the other, make a vote,
09:40:17 make a move, and get it done.
09:40:19 Thank you.
09:40:23 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
09:40:28 >> Good morning, Council.
09:40:30 Jerry Frankhouser, T.H.A.N. president.
09:40:33 I'm here to talk about the panhandling solicitation issue.
09:40:36 In one of our meetings, at a previous meeting of T.H.A.N.,
09:40:45 we voted no total ban.
09:40:47 But we know you have problems, but really, really we would
09:40:50 like to have you do something.
09:40:53 I mean, we don't care what it is, just get the people off
09:40:55 the streets, because we're worried about the safety of the
09:40:58 people who are walking around the neighborhoods and the
09:41:01 neighbors who might run into them.
09:41:03 It's not a real good issue.
09:41:06 We would like you to take some kind of action on that, if
09:41:09 you would, please.
09:41:11 Thank you.
09:41:15 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
09:41:18 >> My name is John Dingler.
09:41:21 980 East Lake Avenue.
09:41:22 I was in here a few weeks ago and heard you guys push back a
09:41:26 little bit on some of the leadership in Ybor on, between
09:41:29 like the idea of, you know, beautification and sidewalks and
09:41:34 palm trees, versus like over, I think someone said like one
09:41:38 and a half jobs.
09:41:39 I really wanted to applaud you guys for, after you said
09:41:44 something about being philosophically consistent and
09:41:47 standing for people over this idea of something that's
09:41:50 beautiful or whatever.
09:41:51 It would be great to have more palm trees, but I really want
09:41:54 to applaud you for that.
09:41:55 I want to ask you to stay consistent in that way when we
09:41:59 talk about something like panhandling.
09:42:00 With these last two guys, I agree, something -- there needs
09:42:04 to be something done, like a decision made, but I really
09:42:06 want to urge you to decide on behalf of people.
09:42:08 When we have a city and a society that demonizes and
09:42:14 despises poor people.
09:42:15 I really want to ask you guys to be leaders.
09:42:19 The reason it's taken so long because I know it should be
09:42:23 We're trying to do this gymnastics to make this thing, just
09:42:27 so it's constitutional.
09:42:28 Go beyond just being constitutional.
09:42:32 Be ethical, stand strong.
09:42:35 Be on the side of people that have nobody else on their
09:42:39 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
09:42:43 >> Good morning, City Council, my name is Samuel L. Mobley.
09:42:48 I'm the president of Eastern Heights Neighborhood
09:42:50 Association and crime watch.
09:42:51 I'm here in response to item 5-Z-11-30.
09:43:00 >>MARY MULHERN: Sir, I believe that is a public hearing.
09:43:03 And you'll need to speak on it when it comes up.
09:43:06 >> Oh, okay.
09:43:07 My understanding was that anything on here you could talk
09:43:10 >>MARY MULHERN: What number is it on the agenda?
09:43:15 Yes, I think it will be later in the morning when we get to
09:43:23 >> Good morning, Council.
09:43:24 Jason Wilson, 2540 West Maryland Avenue.
09:43:27 I come to you this morning actually wearing two shorts
09:43:30 I'm supporting Alan Snell's proposal for the bicycle air
09:43:34 mobility network.
09:43:35 Not only am I wearing the shirt, I'm on the shirt.
09:43:38 I'll let smarter people talk about that.
09:43:40 I'm also here, I represent a community task force looking at
09:43:43 options to deal with homelessness and also create a
09:43:48 rescue -- arrest diversion proposal, specifically for
09:43:51 homeless individuals that might be charged with misdemeanor
09:43:54 crimes or if a street solicitation ordinance were to go into
09:43:57 effect, how we would deal both efficiently and
09:44:00 empathetically with people that violate that ordinance.
09:44:03 I presented last week on the beginnings of that task force.
09:44:06 I told you about how our community group, from our group of
09:44:09 concerned citizens to a group of stakeholders and providers
09:44:11 of the homeless community.
09:44:14 Law enforcement support and broader support throughout the
09:44:16 I just again want to thank the Council for taking such
09:44:20 deliberate and thoughtful action and considering how to not
09:44:23 only deal with the symptom, but also the underlying disease
09:44:26 as well.
09:44:27 Our task force comments specifically on the street.
09:44:30 Whether we are pro or against, because no matter whether
09:44:33 that passes or not, we still have an issue to deal with.
09:44:36 I want to update you again on that issue.
09:44:38 I told you last time we spoke that the biggest concern we
09:44:41 have is housing and beds.
09:44:43 We're continuing to look for housing and beds.
09:44:45 We have had a great amount of community outpouring of
09:44:47 different ideas and where we might find facility site at.
09:44:50 That continues to be our number one priority.
09:44:52 And I would call on Council to help us with that.
09:44:54 I would call on city staff to help us with that.
09:44:57 I'd call on the private community to help us with that.
09:45:00 Ideas where we might find a facility at.
09:45:02 In order to broaden our search for that and to collaborate
09:45:05 more closely with other stakeholders, we have also begun
09:45:09 meeting with the Hillsborough County Commission.
09:45:12 There's a mental health arrest diversion proposal project,
09:45:15 more limited in scope than our project, but very far along
09:45:18 and doing some very good things.
09:45:20 We are working with the housing subcommittee of that group
09:45:24 to seek a jointly a site and a facility.
09:45:26 So again I would just ask for help with that part.
09:45:29 That's where we're at right now.
09:45:30 We'll continue to come back and update the Council on this
09:45:34 Thank you again for your consideration.
09:45:39 >>MARY MULHERN: Dr. Wilson?
09:45:42 >> Yes, ma'am?
09:45:43 >>MARY MULHERN: I think we have some questions.
09:45:45 Councilwoman Capin?
09:45:46 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you for bringing that and thank you
09:45:48 for reminding us.
09:45:52 Stay tuned.
09:45:53 We have, I made a motion to have staff reports on properties
09:45:59 that the city owns and that we could maybe make a, do what
09:46:05 we did with the children's museum, which was a collaborative
09:46:07 with the county, the city and private investment.
09:46:12 And I will be putting on the overhead a property that I
09:46:16 thought might help.
09:46:19 >> Thank you for your leadership on that.
09:46:22 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Stay tuned.
09:46:23 Thank you.
09:46:26 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilwoman Capin, the staff report today,
09:46:29 what number is it?
09:46:31 Probably toward the end of the meeting.
09:46:32 Is that right?
09:46:34 So anyone who wants to talk about what the city and what
09:46:39 this fantastic task force is doing about finding places for
09:46:44 the people on the streets, the homeless people, that would
09:46:47 be toward the end of our meeting.
09:46:50 Thank you.
09:46:57 >> Good morning.
09:46:59 Thank you Madam Chair and Councilmembers.
09:47:01 My name is Jim Shirk.
09:47:03 I'm here initially to talk about the bicycle area mobility
09:47:08 network, which Alan is going to speak about.
09:47:11 The other thing I want to remind you of, is that for a lot
09:47:14 of the homeless or indigent community, the bicycle is the
09:47:21 engine of mobility.
09:47:23 One thing we need to do, we need to decriminalize people who
09:47:27 are ignorant about what they're supposed to do and how
09:47:30 they're supposed to do it.
09:47:31 If we could give the City of Tampa police form a one-page
09:47:35 bilingual card proper ways to ride a bicycle and what it
09:47:39 needs to be legal, I think it would go a long ways to
09:47:43 decriminalize and make it easier for people to ride safely
09:47:47 and ride in a law abiding manner.
09:47:49 If you look at statics, half of all bicycle crashes are
09:47:53 caused by lack of knowledge or lack of doing the right thing
09:47:57 by the bicycle rider.
09:47:58 This gives a tremendous burden on the innocent person who
09:48:01 actually hits the bicyclist.
09:48:03 And makes, that damages their life even though it might take
09:48:07 the life of the bicyclist.
09:48:08 So I'd like to encourage the City Council to support
09:48:12 programs to educate bicyclists through the police.
09:48:16 Thank you very much.
09:48:20 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
09:48:24 >> Good morning, Council.
09:48:24 Chairman Mulhern.
09:48:26 For the record, my name is Don Rode.
09:48:28 Office at 412 Madison street.
09:48:30 Here to speak on the solicitation issue.
09:48:33 And I won't take up but a moment or two of your time.
09:48:36 But, from my own personal standpoint, I hope that you'll
09:48:40 take some kind of action on both of the issues that have
09:48:42 been brought up by speakers before me.
09:48:44 One, what to do about people at these intersections
09:48:47 And then secondarily to that, and hopefully maybe at the
09:48:51 same time, do something in reference to the homeless
09:48:54 My experience goes back to 1969, selling newspapers on the
09:49:00 City of Tampa's streets.
09:49:02 That's how I made a little bit of money as an 11-year-old.
09:49:05 I don't see any 11-year-olds out there these days.
09:49:08 But I will tell you that it's still a way for people to make
09:49:11 money and it's part of freedom of the press.
09:49:14 I think it's important for newspapers to be broadly
09:49:17 dispersed in the community, as a way of keeping up with what
09:49:22 City Council does, what state legislatures do, what good and
09:49:26 bad governments do, and that's what the main function of
09:49:30 freedom of the press was supposed to serve.
09:49:32 I'd also ask that if you look into the issue of panhandling,
09:49:38 you'd see that most people that panhandle do not make a
09:49:42 consistent progressive living doing that.
09:49:46 They barely accomplish anything at all.
09:49:48 In the last year, I've mediated two cases that involved
09:49:52 property damage because of accidents on streets caused by
09:49:57 people receiving a donation in the median.
09:50:00 It's dangerous to do this.
09:50:02 There's no reason that you guys can't take some kind of
09:50:05 action like some of these prior speakers have said, stop
09:50:08 this now.
09:50:09 But simultaneously, please, do something about the homeless
09:50:13 issue that's aggressive, and that will make an immediate
09:50:16 impact, just like you'll make an immediate impact if you put
09:50:20 the panhandling, or excuse me, the solicitation ordinance
09:50:23 into effect.
09:50:24 Thank you.
09:50:25 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
09:50:31 >> Good morning, my name is Ed Cronyn.
09:50:34 I live in Virginia Park.
09:50:38 Not speaking on behalf of the neighborhood association, but,
09:50:41 I know this has been a long debated issue about the
09:50:44 panhandling ordinance and they've given a lot of thought and
09:50:47 Just thinking back and listening to those comments at the
09:50:50 last hearing, it's pretty obvious to me there are a few bad
09:50:55 apples out there who are causing problems.
09:50:57 There's no doubt about it, a few people are causing safety
09:51:00 problem, been a personal issue for some people that
09:51:02 encountered them.
09:51:03 But I think it's, it's a difference having a few anecdotes
09:51:07 and having a widespread safety problem that would then cause
09:51:10 you to have an ordinance which just says nobody can ask for
09:51:15 help in public.
09:51:17 Like I said the last time I was here, this practice used to
09:51:19 be known as asking for alms and giving alms.
09:51:25 It's a time-honored tradition, even pre-dates the press.
09:51:27 So, if we're talking about preserving historic institutions,
09:51:30 I think about that.
09:51:32 You're on the verge of outlawing something that's been
09:51:35 around as part of our society as a Christian society and
09:51:37 before that, a Jewish society, and also as part of Muslim
09:51:42 society, talking about outlawing that here in the City of
09:51:46 I just think, you're crossing a moral boundary here.
09:51:49 Outlawing institution that's been around for a long, long
09:51:53 time, a way for people to ask for and receive help from
09:51:56 folks in public.
09:51:57 At the last hearing also, there was quite a bit of debate
09:51:59 and discussion over saving one and a half taxpayer supported
09:52:03 What's going to happen to these folks?
09:52:05 This is their income.
09:52:07 This is a livelihood.
09:52:08 A lot of them do depend to tide themselves over between
09:52:12 I've talked to them.
09:52:13 I know them.
09:52:15 A few bad ones, but a lot really need this help.
09:52:18 If you're going to take away this form of income, what
09:52:20 you're doing is basically forcing them into a tax paying
09:52:23 institution, whether a jail or like St. Petersburg did.
09:52:26 And I don't think you've thought through the cost of this.
09:52:29 I know for the police, it's a very easy thing for them to go
09:52:32 out, much easier for them to sweep everybody up and not
09:52:35 worry about who needs the help or not.
09:52:38 It certainly helps folks out who think, an aesthetic problem
09:52:42 for the city.
09:52:43 But it gets back, is this a widespread safety issue to take
09:52:49 action to restrict free economic transactions in public
09:52:52 places that have been around for thousands of years.
09:52:54 It's not unique to Tampa or this time period.
09:52:56 And I think you're on the verge of crossing a threshold that
09:53:01 really shouldn't be going.
09:53:02 Just be compassionate.
09:53:04 Recognize they do need help and do need assistance.
09:53:08 Please be compassionate.
09:53:09 If you're going to pass an ordinance, at least wait to
09:53:12 enforce it until there's something else in place to catch
09:53:15 them as a safety net.
09:53:17 Thank you for your consideration.
09:53:19 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
09:53:37 >> We have a speaker waiver form is David Drewer, okay,
09:53:45 thank you.
09:53:46 And Patrick, I can't pronounce --
09:53:50 Are you Patrick?
09:53:51 Thank you.
09:53:52 Two additional minutes, please.
09:53:55 >> My name is Tom Atchison, 1611 East Bougainvillea Avenue.
09:54:00 I'm the pastor of New Life Church and founder of New
09:54:02 Beginnings of Tampa emergency shelter and transitional
09:54:06 housing for those with addiction problems.
09:54:08 I applaud the work that Dr. Wilson has done to create a
09:54:12 one-stop coordinate services to help the homeless and the
09:54:17 This City Council has been very sensitive to the needs of
09:54:21 the homeless, while also having today make some very hard
09:54:26 decisions when it comes to the safety and the welfare of its
09:54:30 I'm here today to ask you to consider some other resources
09:54:36 that can be tapped into to help this homeless situation.
09:54:39 I keep referring to this resource as the sleeping giant.
09:54:46 During tragedies such as hurricanes and tornadoes, it's the
09:54:51 communities and the churches that rally together to make a
09:54:55 difference in people's lives.
09:54:58 The greatest resource are the people.
09:55:00 There are several churches, synagogues, mosques that are
09:55:05 behind the scenes that are doing great work to help the
09:55:08 disenfranchised citizens of Tampa.
09:55:11 However, the great work that they do would even be more
09:55:14 effective if the efforts were coordinated for better public
09:55:19 What they do would just, if they just had just a little help
09:55:25 from the city financially, and also in coordinating their
09:55:29 services, could really increase the great work and take what
09:55:33 they do as a small part of helping the homeless, and
09:55:37 multiply it many times over to become this great giant that
09:55:41 could serve the homeless in such a great way.
09:55:44 We think of the many faith-based organizations in the city,
09:55:49 and you add to them all the members of those organizations,
09:55:53 you're looking at a substantial number of citizens.
09:55:57 I believe that if given direction and encouragement by this
09:56:01 Council to form a faith-based coalition.
09:56:09 This would be a separate arm of the city.
09:56:12 The homeless coalition does a great work to coordinate
09:56:15 services primarily that are grant driven and secular
09:56:19 Although there are faith-based organizations that are
09:56:23 members of the homeless coalition, such as New Beginnings,
09:56:26 the majority of the faith-based organizations are not a
09:56:30 part, nor ever will be a part of the homeless coalition.
09:56:33 Their needs, their motives are on a totally different page.
09:56:38 Some examples of how some of the faith-based organizations
09:56:42 can make a great difference is, I get between five to ten
09:56:47 calls a day from women with children.
09:56:50 And usually the conversation starts out, is there any place
09:56:54 for me to go?
09:56:55 I'm being evicted, my husband lost his job, and you know, or
09:56:59 he's been arrested, multiple things.
09:57:02 Left me.
09:57:02 And my response out of my mouth, I just hate it when I get
09:57:06 that call, I cringe, because I have to say, I'm sorry, I
09:57:10 can't help you.
09:57:12 Women and children just do not have any place in Tampa.
09:57:16 The few places that do take women and children are not
09:57:19 emergency shelters.
09:57:20 They're longer term.
09:57:22 I got on the phone, I called 211.
09:57:24 I called every organization I could.
09:57:26 I finally called Fox 13 News.
09:57:28 And I said, we need some help here.
09:57:32 Here's another woman, a woman came in my office with three
09:57:35 Instead of being able to tell her no on the phone, I had to
09:57:38 look across at her at the three kids and her and say I'm
09:57:41 She says, but I'm going to be on the street tomorrow.
09:57:43 Isn't there something I can do?
09:57:45 And Fox News came out and did a story on it the other day.
09:57:49 And out of that story, I've had three calls already in the
09:57:52 last couple days from churches who have people in their
09:57:56 church who are willing to step up to the plate and take
09:57:59 those families in, help them, coordinate them, help them
09:58:02 request the day care, so she can go out and get a job.
09:58:06 And here's something that with all the services we have in
09:58:08 Tampa, we can't do at this present time.
09:58:12 But if we wake up the sleeping giant, if we coordinate the
09:58:15 services of the various faith organizations, we can do it.
09:58:19 Dental truck, Mission Tampa, many of you might not know.
09:58:24 I'm on the board of directors for Mission Tampa out of
09:58:27 Seminole Heights Baptist Church.
09:58:29 Now, they coordinate with several other churches and have
09:58:32 formed a dental clinic that goes out once a month, not only
09:58:36 to the homeless on the street, but to churches to help serve
09:58:38 the neighborhood doing dental services that's already being
09:58:42 done without one dime out of the city budget.
09:58:44 Yet, most people have never even heard of that work being
09:58:50 It's one of those silent things.
09:58:51 For the last 13 years, New Beginnings and several other
09:58:56 organizations have been on the streets of Tampa, feeding the
09:59:00 homeless for over 13 years.
09:59:02 And we really don't consider the feeding, we consider it an
09:59:06 And what we do -- is that my three minutes?
09:59:10 >>MARY MULHERN: You got 30 seconds left.
09:59:12 >> And we coordinate services there.
09:59:14 We're a mini one-stop already.
09:59:16 And all we're asking from the city is just a little bit of
09:59:21 help with some recognition, some coordination and forming a
09:59:26 group of, a group that can be a faith-based specific
09:59:31 organization to be able to help coordinate all these
09:59:34 services and wake up this sleeping giant and put to work
09:59:37 something that isn't going to cost the city a whole lot of
09:59:40 money, but can be very effective.
09:59:41 Thank you.
09:59:42 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
09:59:44 >> I have a question.
09:59:49 >>MARY MULHERN: It's fine.
09:59:50 I was reminded that we have a rule about not having dialogue
09:59:52 with our speakers.
09:59:54 But, I don't know if you can be here later, but if you could
09:59:59 be here later -- you're not going to get to talk then
10:00:03 I don't have a problem.
10:00:04 Ask him one question, do it quickly.
10:00:09 Thank you.
10:00:16 >> Good morning City Council.
10:00:17 My name is Frank Morris and I'm with New Beginnings too.
10:00:22 I'm glad New Beginnings took me in.
10:00:26 Because I'm a product of your homeless.
10:00:28 I was born and raised here in Tampa.
10:00:30 I've seen Tampa go from a little city to a big city now.
10:00:33 I'm a seven time loser in prison.
10:00:37 I just got out March 4th.
10:00:39 If it wasn't for New Beginnings taking me in, I'd still be a
10:00:43 product of your homelessness.
10:00:44 I think City of Tampa needs to do something about it with
10:00:47 these type of programs that Pastor Tom Atchison is running
10:00:50 for the homeless.
10:00:52 It's a good program.
10:00:53 And we need it here.
10:00:55 [lost audio]
10:01:09 >> People need to wake up to it.
10:01:11 City Council members need to wake up to it.
10:01:13 And this problem is not going to go away.
10:01:16 And the people, the homeless people need help.
10:01:19 Just like me.
10:01:20 And most of them really, a number are drug addicts.
10:01:27 You have drug addicts that need help, they need help.
10:01:30 And we need a faith-based program and a drug program.
10:01:35 And that's what New Beginnings run.
10:01:37 And we need this help from the City of Tampa.
10:01:40 Thank you very much.
10:01:41 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
10:01:47 >> Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.
10:01:48 My name is Justin Frasier.
10:01:50 I am a husband and a father.
10:01:52 I'm here speaking on the solicitation.
10:01:54 I sell refreshments mostly to military.
10:01:58 [lost audio] take my income away.
10:02:12 We will be homeless within a matter of a week.
10:02:15 And like these gentlemen are saying, there is nowhere for us
10:02:18 to go.
10:02:18 If you take my children away from me, which is exactly what
10:02:23 will happen, my life will fall apart.
10:02:26 I wouldn't even be out there in the green light.
10:02:33 I walk out during red lights.
10:02:35 I walk it.
10:02:36 I get off.
10:02:36 I don't want to be out there during moving traffic.
10:02:39 Just because someone gets pulled over for drinking and
10:02:41 driving, you don't say anybody can't drive.
10:02:43 You put rules.
10:02:45 Make it to where no one can be out here during green lights.
10:02:48 But don't take away our only source of income.
10:02:51 Because when you take these incomes away, what jobs are you
10:02:55 going to give us?
10:02:56 Nobody's hiring.
10:02:58 Everybody I know that is hiring, is firing the next day
10:03:02 because the work goes away.
10:03:03 I was laid off 11 months ago.
10:03:05 For the last nine months, I've sold these refreshments.
10:03:11 I speak on behalf of everyone who didn't show up.
10:03:15 Please, don't take our income away.
10:03:18 Thank you.
10:03:20 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
10:03:28 >> Dear City Council, my name is Marvin Atkins.
10:03:32 And I sell fresh-cut flowers on the street corners for my
10:03:39 I have an occupational license and I pay state sales taxes
10:03:49 and I pay federal income tax.
10:03:51 I am supporting the community and I hope that the community
10:03:54 would support me by allowing me to keep my livelihood
10:04:00 selling flowers on the street corners.
10:04:02 I pay rent and I am not homeless.
10:04:06 If I am disallowed to sell flowers as I am now, and have
10:04:11 been doing the past two years, I will become homeless and
10:04:17 Jobs are hard to find and I've been able to work
10:04:22 The economy is not doing so well.
10:04:25 This allows me to have employment with the unemployment
10:04:31 situation like it is today.
10:04:32 I sell lots of flowers and roses.
10:04:35 And many people tell me that they appreciate me being out
10:04:42 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
10:04:49 >> Good morning.
10:04:51 Bill Nelligar, 511 North Franklin.
10:04:53 We're a new business, a new restaurant that's opening up.
10:04:57 A year ago when we selected Tampa, we fell in love with the
10:05:00 We fell in love with the friendliness and the family type
10:05:04 If we had to make that same decision today, we would have
10:05:07 elected to move to a different city.
10:05:09 I'd like to, as uncomfortable as it is, explain to you the
10:05:12 reasons why.
10:05:13 We cannot run a restaurant, we cannot attract element crowd,
10:05:18 we cannot get the SkyPoint people to come down because it's
10:05:22 deemed unsafe, dangerous and vulgar.
10:05:25 By vulgar, we're talking about public urination in our
10:05:28 doorway at 1:00 when our dining room is full of guests.
10:05:32 All the way to public masturbation, which is uncomfortable
10:05:35 for me to say, but more uncomfortable for our guests to
10:05:38 And the fact that last night, we had to lock our door three
10:05:42 We locked our door three times for our safety and for our
10:05:46 guests' safety.
10:05:47 These are people that are falling under the ordinance that
10:05:51 you're going to pass, or vote on for -- I'm sorry, I'm
10:05:56 losing my train of thought here.
10:05:58 But for the panhandling.
10:05:59 I'm very compassionate.
10:06:01 A year ago I thought that the homeless was a nefarious
10:06:06 My view has changed.
10:06:08 I wanted to feed these people, but I think the problem is,
10:06:11 we're compassionately looking at one situation, and enabling
10:06:15 And what we're enabling is an environment on Franklin
10:06:20 We're talking three minute walk from here, where it's not
10:06:23 It's posted on the internet not to go down there, it's the
10:06:26 seedy unsafe area.
10:06:28 We have invested a large amount of money to try to help
10:06:32 revitalize that area.
10:06:33 And we need assistance.
10:06:35 We can't operate calling the police department.
10:06:37 We can't burden the police department with these types of
10:06:41 A week ago, I met with Councilman Reddick -- sorry, and
10:06:45 explained to him the situation that happened the night
10:06:47 And that situation was, we had a switchblade pulled on us.
10:06:51 A 12-inch switchblade because they were demanding that we
10:06:54 give them food.
10:06:55 You have to do something.
10:06:57 You have to step up and protect these merchants, or they're
10:07:00 going to close.
10:07:00 You don't have a downtown nightlife.
10:07:02 The reason you don't have one is because we don't have a
10:07:05 safe environment.
10:07:06 It is not family friendly.
10:07:07 And we would really like to see something done that's
10:07:11 compassionate for those that truly are down on their luck,
10:07:14 but that stops the people that really don't want help and
10:07:19 that's a lifestyle that they've chosen.
10:07:21 And if that would include -- we would like to invite the
10:07:24 Council down, come down and spend four or five hours just
10:07:28 observing what happens as soon as you leave the city.
10:07:32 At 4:30, the population descends on Franklin.
10:07:37 The police aren't empowered to help us.
10:07:40 What option do we have other than to close our businesses?
10:07:42 And I just can't stand by and see that happen.
10:07:46 We would have to lay off 15 of our employees because we
10:07:50 can't pay them if you can't make it safe for residents to
10:07:54 come down and enjoy it.
10:07:56 We're talking a two-block walk that they won't make.
10:07:59 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
10:08:00 >> Thank you.
10:08:07 >> Madam Councilwoman, City Council, my name is Johanna
10:08:13 I'm with God Works, Inc.
10:08:15 That is a ministry that housed, transitional houses for sex
10:08:22 We are in Thonotosassa.
10:08:24 As you can see, I have compassion for people that nobody
10:08:29 My calls come from the correctionals.
10:08:33 Begging me to house people that nobody wants.
10:08:37 I'm here for an unusual reason.
10:08:41 I'm here for asking you to reconsider your ordinance about
10:08:47 feeding the homeless.
10:08:48 You see, my ministry is a very small ministry.
10:08:53 I founded it in 2007.
10:08:56 Part of what we do is go down and feed the homeless.
10:08:59 It opens my men's hearts and makes them see.
10:09:05 See, I am one of the fortunate people that I go home every
10:09:09 I have food on my table.
10:09:10 And so do the men.
10:09:12 And they get to see that.
10:09:14 The people that we serve, they have no home.
10:09:18 They have no food on their table.
10:09:20 And they're able to look in peoples eyes and see that they
10:09:26 are homeless.
10:09:28 Like they would be if they didn't have that.
10:09:30 Being, having a home any more, it's not a right.
10:09:35 It's a privilege.
10:09:37 That man on the street could be my father.
10:09:40 Could be my mother.
10:09:41 Could be my brother, my sister, my son.
10:09:43 And all these people that are saying do something about the
10:09:47 homeless, could they look that person in the eye and see
10:09:52 their brother, their sister, their mother, their father?
10:09:55 Can you see your family member with compassion?
10:10:05 We have to help these people.
10:10:06 Homelessness is not what it used to be.
10:10:08 There are people out there with degrees, master's degrees,
10:10:13 lots of degrees.
10:10:14 They don't have a home.
10:10:17 And we're telling them get off my parking lot.
10:10:19 Get out of my shade.
10:10:22 Please, let's reconsider this.
10:10:27 They could be our family members.
10:10:30 I serve with Pastor Tom and many churches.
10:10:35 We cook the food in our homes.
10:10:37 And we bring it out to them, in coolers to keep it hot, so
10:10:43 they can have a decent meal once a week, if possible, in the
10:10:49 And now you're telling us we can't do that.
10:10:53 Have compassion, please.
10:10:57 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
10:11:02 >> Good morning, Madam Chair, councilmembers.
10:11:05 My name is Reverend Gregory Lockett.
10:11:09 I'm a homeless advocate.
10:11:11 In 2005, I got really upset with the city of St. Petersburg.
10:11:17 I organized 151 homeless people and took over a piece of
10:11:22 property and started tent city.
10:11:25 I did that for a reason, to open their eyes to a flat tire,
10:11:31 a car on a chassis that they continually refusing to look
10:11:35 What came out of it wasn't what I expected, but it came,
10:11:39 something came out pretty good of it.
10:11:41 I'm here today to bring to your attention, since 2001, where
10:11:47 all this coalition and stuff started coming up and
10:11:49 everyone's talking about these one stops and all of this,
10:11:52 and you got faith-based organization, even probably you,
10:11:56 your own church or if you do go to church, be asking you to
10:11:59 help out in crisis, when the monies that you have thrown to
10:12:03 these individuals that is so tied up with grants, so tied up
10:12:09 with restrictions, can't even go out there and help one
10:12:12 person and have to say no.
10:12:14 The doors open.
10:12:15 Some of these small groups and organizations, even mosques
10:12:19 and synagogues, and a lot of government eyes, who break the
10:12:23 Because I will take a homeless person in to my home.
10:12:27 I supposed to be licensed.
10:12:28 I will try and direct a family to somewhere to help.
10:12:32 How many -- ask yourself and in your heart, how many times
10:12:35 have your pastor or your religious leader, when a crisis
10:12:39 came up, asked you for help?
10:12:40 Stop throwing away the money.
10:12:42 For years and years, we have been saying this.
10:12:45 The solution to the homeless situation is the homeless.
10:12:50 And the faith-based organizations.
10:12:51 We don't tie our hands.
10:12:54 We live by a spirit that sets us free to do that.
10:12:57 We don't have to sit down and spend millions of dollars to
10:13:01 get a definition for homelessness.
10:13:03 One word.
10:13:03 How silly is that?
10:13:05 I ask you right now, I'm asking you in the name of my Lord,
10:13:11 and I'm pleading the blood on this, that you all go home and
10:13:14 you pray and you look at the faith-based organizations, the
10:13:17 small ones, that's out there that's actually doing
10:13:22 Doors are open 24/7.
10:13:23 We need a faith-based coalition here, we need the city to
10:13:29 get a leads on, so you can stop wasting the money.
10:13:34 That's what you're doing, you're wasting money over and over
10:13:37 again, when you can use that money to solve the problems
10:13:39 with the bicycle, solve the problems with the panhandling.
10:13:43 We can solve those problems by helping these people and
10:13:45 directing them at addressing the barriers, not giving them
10:13:49 crumb and say come back in 90 days.
10:13:51 I ask you right now, in the name of our Lord, you go home,
10:13:55 you pray.
10:13:56 If you are believers, you pick up whatever book you read, I
10:14:00 guarantee you, submit to the bureaucratic system, you define
10:14:06 the real system of the holy spirit.
10:14:08 Thank you.
10:14:10 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
10:14:11 >> Good morning, my name is Diana MacLean with the
10:14:14 Muscular Dystrophy Association.
10:14:16 First, I just want to say thank you to the Council for your
10:14:20 time and your consideration on this matter.
10:14:22 I know that you've spent a lot of hours thinking about it
10:14:25 and trying to reach a compromise and a solution.
10:14:29 The funds raised by our trained public safety professionals
10:14:34 help us fund our clinics, our local clinics at St. Joe's and
10:14:39 St. Anthony's.
10:14:39 It helps MDA fund a summer camp for 6 to 17-year-olds right
10:14:43 here in Brandon.
10:14:44 It's also funding ALS research study at USF.
10:14:48 To find a cure for these diseases.
10:14:51 On top of the countless medical services that we offer our,
10:14:56 over 300 local families.
10:14:58 This money stays here local in the community.
10:15:00 And MDA couldn't offer these services without these funds
10:15:04 that are safety professionals lays on the streets.
10:15:09 Again, I just want to say thank you for your consideration
10:15:11 and your time on this matter.
10:15:13 And we hope a compromise can be reached.
10:15:18 >> Thank you very much.
10:15:21 >> Thank you.
10:15:23 Jim Lake, 4218 West San Pedro, as a lawyer for "The Tampa
10:15:28 Just want to make two points regarding the street
10:15:30 solicitation ordinances, item 121.
10:15:33 If those are to be enacted, we urge two changes between
10:15:36 first and second reading.
10:15:37 First, the proposed safety rules appear to contain a
10:15:43 typographical error.
10:15:46 Sub-paragraph eight of those rules says when traffic is
10:15:48 allowed to move, no person shall be standing either on a
10:15:52 median or at least two feet outside of the road.
10:15:56 Our understanding is intent was actually to mirror Pasco
10:15:59 County's ordinance on this area, which says, the person
10:16:02 shall be standing either on a median or two feet outside of
10:16:05 the road.
10:16:06 So, simple change there of the word "the" rather than the
10:16:12 word "no" would make this consistent with Pasco's.
10:16:16 Second, with regard to the proposed ban on solicitation at
10:16:20 certain intersections, an issue that I guess came up since
10:16:23 the last meeting, we submitted that ban makes sense on high
10:16:27 traffic days, when FDOT data shows a lot of cars are out,
10:16:32 accidents occur.
10:16:33 But we don't think that has been shown to make sense on
10:16:36 Sundays, when the information you have from the Florida
10:16:40 department of transportation shows there are far fewer
10:16:43 accidents and far fewer cars on the road.
10:16:46 The case hasn't been made for seven day a week ban at those
10:16:51 And more at that particular language in these ordinances is
10:16:55 written, that would apply only to newspaper vendors and not
10:16:58 to other people.
10:16:58 So we don't think that was the intent either.
10:17:00 And so, we'd recommend that that aspect of both ordinances,
10:17:06 paragraph ten in the Sunday rules and 11 in the newspaper
10:17:09 rules, say no solicitation, no solicitation shall occur
10:17:14 Monday through Saturday.
10:17:15 At the ten intersections that have the highest number of
10:17:19 With those changes, I think Council would be able to
10:17:22 accomplish what has been discussed, the goals that have been
10:17:25 articulated and address the concerns that have been raised
10:17:28 about street solicitation.
10:17:29 Thank you.
10:17:35 >> Good morning, Council.
10:17:37 My name is Don Barco.
10:17:38 13101 Burns Lake Drive.
10:17:41 I'm here today to speak to the issue of Councilwoman
10:17:46 Mulhern's desire for the Council to send a letter to the
10:17:49 people of Cuba.
10:17:50 I wholeheartedly am behind this.
10:17:56 I think it's something that we need to do.
10:17:58 This is the 21st century.
10:18:01 We're not living in 1960.
10:18:03 Councilmember Suarez --
10:18:07 >> Excuse me, Chair.
10:18:09 If you could direct the speaker to speak to us as a Council.
10:18:13 And not as individuals.
10:18:15 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
10:18:15 >> I'm sorry.
10:18:17 >>MARY MULHERN: Yes.
10:18:18 And everyone, this is an opportunity to speak to Council,
10:18:20 not to single out anybody.
10:18:22 >> I apologize.
10:18:23 >>MARY MULHERN: Although if you just want to say thank you
10:18:25 to any of us, that's fine.
10:18:26 [ Laughter ]
10:18:29 >> Ahead of time, also, thank you.
10:18:32 I think in doing this, that the Council would be
10:18:38 representing all of the people of Tampa.
10:18:41 It's an important thing that we have already made the
10:18:45 reconnection with flights.
10:18:47 It's an important thing for the citizens of Tampa Bay, we
10:18:53 have heard person after person come up and speak about the
10:18:57 hard times that we're going through economically.
10:18:59 And as we're doing this, it's been said that we shouldn't
10:19:05 have government to government business.
10:19:08 But right now, as we speak, there's ports in Mobile and New
10:19:13 Orleans and Jacksonville that's doing business with Cuba
10:19:16 through their ports, while our port stands idly by and let's
10:19:24 this business pass us by.
10:19:25 This community needs this money.
10:19:27 It's been illustrated by person after person coming up
10:19:30 saying how bad things are here.
10:19:32 By us doing business with the Cubans, it's going to create
10:19:39 jobs, and I think it's disingenuous for us not to open our
10:19:46 hearts and go and talk with these people and get started on
10:19:49 what we should be doing.
10:19:50 You all are here to lead.
10:19:51 Please do it.
10:19:52 Thank you.
10:19:53 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
10:19:57 >> My name is Terry Watson.
10:19:59 I live 718 South Willow Avenue.
10:20:01 Mr. Barco just took about half of what I wanted to say, but
10:20:05 I'll go ahead.
10:20:06 I'm not up here because, unlike Al, who spoke earlier, I'm
10:20:12 not Cuban.
10:20:13 I don't have Cuban blood in my veins.
10:20:16 But, I am here because I'm a citizen of Tampa and I'm
10:20:19 interested in the welfare of the city and the jobs in the
10:20:23 We have heard a constant theme today.
10:20:26 Whether it's talking about the panhandling or talked about
10:20:29 The issue is jobs and economic welfare of Tampa.
10:20:33 Right now, as Mr. Barco stated, there are ports doing
10:20:41 business with Cuba while we stand here.
10:20:43 There are tourists from Europe who are on the beaches, who
10:20:47 are in Havana at this very moment.
10:20:50 There are students from almost every state except Florida,
10:20:53 who are beginning exchanges, going down and doing projects
10:20:57 in Cuba.
10:20:58 We all know the direction this is going.
10:21:03 This isn't a debate about whether Batista or Castro was the
10:21:10 bad guy 50 years ago.
10:21:11 We know where this is going.
10:21:13 The real issue is, is Tampa going to sit passively on the
10:21:21 sidelines and let Birmingham and Jacksonville and all other
10:21:24 places go ahead of the line or is Tampa going to be active,
10:21:29 are we going to take an active role and get the benefits as
10:21:35 the laws change, so that we can improve our economy?
10:21:39 And I ask the City Council to go beyond what Councilmember
10:21:45 Mulhern is planning to do and take an active leadership and
10:21:50 make this happen, put us in a leadership role as the changes
10:21:54 occur in our relationship with Cuba.
10:21:58 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
10:22:03 >> Good morning, City Council.
10:22:04 My name is Lance Ponton.
10:22:07 I'm here to address the letter that was going to be sent to
10:22:13 I just want to thank City Council Mulhern for taking the
10:22:18 effort to tie our two communities together.
10:22:23 And as you know, we have 67,000 Cuban-Americans here in
10:22:27 I'd like to see everything possible done to tie Cuba back to
10:22:32 And see more jobs come into Tampa.
10:22:37 The port and through our airlines.
10:22:41 And I thank City Council Mulhern for making all the effort
10:22:46 that she's done.
10:22:47 Thank you very much.
10:22:51 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
10:22:55 >> Good morning, Council.
10:22:56 Victor DiMaio.
10:22:58 I want to say that I'm proud and honored to be part of the
10:23:03 historical first delegation that traveled directly from
10:23:06 Tampa to Havana in 50 years.
10:23:09 My grandparents on my mother's side were born and raised in
10:23:11 Belgas and Santiago de las vegas.
10:23:17 They left Cuba, like many other Cubans, for the privilege of
10:23:18 working 16 hours a day 7 days a week in Tampa's bustling
10:23:21 cigar industry in Ybor City.
10:23:25 When the government changed 50 years ago and the people
10:23:27 cheered for the deposed brutal dictator, we all cheered as
10:23:32 I went to my grandparents' homeland to see and experience
10:23:35 and hear for myself Cuba.
10:23:38 I didn't want to take The Tampa Tribune's or St. Pete Times
10:23:43 editorials that the Cuban embargo must go or accept the
10:23:47 50-year-old exiled community propaganda that the embargo
10:23:51 must stay.
10:23:52 I saw for myself a bustling and prosperous and very happy
10:23:56 I saw tremendous opportunities for our culturally linked two
10:24:01 And I experienced very much a bit of sadness because my own
10:24:05 country is needlessly punishing these people because of the
10:24:09 ignorance of a dying 50-year-old dream.
10:24:12 We trade and travel openly with Communist China and
10:24:17 Communist Vietnam.
10:24:18 We need to drop this stupid embargo and you the Tampa City
10:24:23 Council have the freedom to make a statement that you want
10:24:28 things to change for our people and our cities and our
10:24:32 I am here today because of Al Fox and the courage of himself
10:24:36 and the alliance for responsible Cuban policy.
10:24:38 And his local board members, David Straz, Jr. and John
10:24:43 The alliance moved from Washington, D.C. to Tampa a few
10:24:46 years ago to focus attention on this issue.
10:24:49 No organization knows more about this issue than the
10:24:52 We all should embrace the alliance's knowledge and
10:24:56 experience and move forward.
10:24:58 My late father, my mother and my grandparents all changed
10:25:01 their minds about Cuba and myself as well.
10:25:04 It's time that Tampa changed its mind about Cuba too.
10:25:07 Other cities, counties and states have long ago done what
10:25:11 you are hopefully going to do today.
10:25:13 And that is open trade, travel, and cultural exchange with
10:25:20 It's time -- it's easy to cower behind the 50-year-old
10:25:24 exiled community dying dream about Cuba.
10:25:27 It's hard to make the right decision.
10:25:29 I'm holding you all personally accountable to do the right
10:25:31 thing today.
10:25:32 Thank you very much.
10:25:33 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
10:25:39 >> Good morning, Councilmembers.
10:25:43 My name is Sylvia Alvarez.
10:25:45 I'm a lifelong resident of Tampa.
10:25:48 I was born in Havana.
10:25:50 But I'm going to be translating today for Vicente Amor, who
10:25:54 has a travel agency here in Tampa, and he said he didn't
10:25:59 want to put you through the torture of listening to his
10:26:09 >> [speaking Spanish]
10:26:25 >> What he's wanting to do, he's wanting to invite the City
10:26:28 of Tampa, the City Council to go and visit and have -- and
10:26:34 form your own opinions as to this problem that has been
10:26:39 plaguing all of us for so long.
10:26:43 >> [speaking Spanish]
10:26:56 >> Always when the subject of Cuba comes up, it's about
10:27:00 whether you are for Castro or against Castro.
10:27:04 >> [speaking Spanish]
10:27:16 >> The subject today is not so much about Cuban-American,
10:27:21 but it's more about what is good for the City of Tampa.
10:27:25 >> [speaking Spanish]
10:27:34 >> It's for the jobs in Tampa, the families in Tampa and the
10:27:38 rights of Americans.
10:27:41 >> [speaking Spanish]
10:27:57 >> Right now, there's a company in Miami that is the one who
10:28:02 is running the charters from Miami as well as the ones out
10:28:05 of Tampa.
10:28:05 And he has not been able to work with the group in Miami.
10:28:11 >> [speaking Spanish]
10:28:20 >> At this point, five people came from Miami to Tampa and
10:28:23 they're the ones who are running the operation.
10:28:26 >> [speaking Spanish]
10:28:32 >> That's the profit that could be coming to his company as
10:28:34 well as jobs to the people of Tampa.
10:28:38 >> [speaking Spanish]
10:28:49 >>MARY MULHERN: I'd like to give them another minute or
10:28:52 another two minutes since she's translating.
10:28:56 >> He says it's time now to get beyond about what is good
10:29:00 for the discussion between Cuban-Americans and do what's
10:29:04 right for Tampa, with jobs and the economy and moving
10:29:08 forward with this issue.
10:29:11 >> [speaking Spanish]
10:29:15 >> He said thank you for the extension of time, but this is
10:29:18 what he wanted to say.
10:29:19 However, I would like to add something.
10:29:21 My father --
10:29:23 [ Laughter ]
10:29:24 >> I'm Cuban, what can I say?
10:29:27 >>MARY MULHERN: You can have your own three minutes.
10:29:29 >> I really don't need all that much time.
10:29:31 But, I'm not going to try to repeat what so many of the
10:29:36 other eloquent speakers that have come before me have said.
10:29:39 My father was Al Arteago, one of the first speakers this
10:29:44 morning, and I'm very proud of him for this battle that he's
10:29:47 had for his life and I'm very happy that he was able to be
10:29:50 on that first flight out of Tampa.
10:29:52 It made a huge difference in his life, and in being able to
10:29:58 see one of his goals accomplished.
10:30:00 But I just want to say this to all of you.
10:30:02 If you've never had a mango from Cuba.
10:30:05 [ Laughter ]
10:30:06 >> You've never had a mango.
10:30:09 [ Applause ]
10:30:14 >>MARY MULHERN: Next?
10:30:16 We were going to cut off public comment at 10:31.
10:30:21 That's when we started.
10:30:23 Just, if you wish to speak, please, if you are able to stand
10:30:26 up now, so we know who.
10:30:29 >> Good morning, Madam Chair.
10:30:30 John Grandoff, Suite 3700, Bank of America Plaza.
10:30:34 I commend Chairman -- Chairwoman's Mulhern's efforts to
10:30:39 author and send the letter to Cuba.
10:30:41 I'd like to provide a few perspectives on my reasoning for
10:30:46 You need look no further than the great seal of our city.
10:30:52 The boat mascot, which was owned and operated by probably
10:30:57 our greatest founding father of the city, Henry Plant, to
10:31:00 trade between Tampa and Cuba.
10:31:02 It's on our seal.
10:31:03 The Tampa Bay Hotel housed soldiers before they left for the
10:31:09 Spanish-American war.
10:31:10 A gentleman named Cuevado, who operated a Cuban airline
10:31:15 before the embargo, took upon himself to establish a park in
10:31:19 Ybor City and convey title to the park as the Jose Marti
10:31:21 park to the Cuban government.
10:31:26 Cuban government owns that park.
10:31:27 You search the title records, they own the property and it's
10:31:31 exempt from taxation because it's sovereign.
10:31:35 Jose Marti appeared in Tampa shortly before he was
10:31:39 assassinated, the liberator of the Cuban people.
10:31:42 We have hundreds of Cuban friends across all generations we
10:31:46 have met through family gatherings, through business,
10:31:49 through other social events.
10:31:50 I think it's high time we established that contact.
10:31:57 I'm not making a political speech.
10:31:59 I'm basically saying as a neighbor to a neighboring country,
10:32:02 it's a nice effort, especially with the rich tradition we
10:32:05 have with Cuba.
10:32:06 I would also suggest that you augment Ms. Mulhern's efforts
10:32:11 by adopting a resolution urging the mayor to likewise send a
10:32:14 letter on behalf of the city as well.
10:32:17 And I think that would be a nice gesture and certainly well
10:32:20 received by the Cuban community and by our neighbor to the
10:32:24 Thank you for your time.
10:32:27 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
10:32:33 >> Good morning Council.
10:32:35 My name is Lewis Chatwith.
10:32:36 And I wish I had an address to give you like a lot of these
10:32:39 good people have.
10:32:40 I am a panhandler, not by trade, but by necessity.
10:32:44 People have this misguided belief that we're out there
10:32:50 getting rich.
10:32:51 I stood out there for eight hours yesterday.
10:32:54 Made three dollars.
10:32:55 That was a bad day.
10:32:57 I've had good days.
10:32:58 But as my only source of support.
10:33:02 Without an ID, you cannot get a job.
10:33:06 Without a residence, you cannot get an ID.
10:33:09 You get those little unity card.
10:33:12 Nobody accepts it.
10:33:13 It's worthless.
10:33:15 Without a home, you are so limited.
10:33:19 Bed spaces are limited.
10:33:21 Even at some of these shelters, they're not considered a
10:33:24 legal residence.
10:33:25 On Sundays, I don't believe Sunday is any safer than any
10:33:34 other day.
10:33:34 If it's safe on Sunday, why is it not safe Monday through
10:33:40 Thank you.
10:33:42 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
10:33:43 That concludes our public comments.
10:33:52 We will move to item one.
10:33:57 Which is, I'm going to read the title of the agenda item.
10:34:07 To keep myself on task here.
10:34:11 I'm going to give a brief update regarding my recent trip to
10:34:18 As I was early, in the early hours this morning writing some
10:34:25 notes for my update, which I guess it's kind of, I thought
10:34:30 it would be a debriefing for Council.
10:34:31 I realized that this Council hasn't been present during the
10:34:41 last three or four years when this City Council has many
10:34:45 times taken action passing resolutions, a lot has happened
10:34:52 by the former City Council on the issue of the economic
10:34:58 benefit that trade with Cuba will bring.
10:35:01 So, I have a lot to say, but I need to start with, before my
10:35:12 trip two weeks ago to Cuba.
10:35:14 I'm going to start with a time line.
10:35:16 And this time line, everything on this time line has to do
10:35:20 with City Council, including myself, what we have done
10:35:25 relating to this.
10:35:26 May 7th, 2009.
10:35:30 Resolution passed by City Council in support of Tampa
10:35:34 International Airport becoming an authorized port of entry
10:35:37 and exit for direct flights to Cuba.
10:35:39 The Tampa, Greater Tampa Chamber of Commerce led this
10:35:44 That was May of 2009.
10:35:46 May 29th, 2009, Tampa Bay World Affairs Council had a Cuba
10:35:51 panel discussion that was a luncheon where there were more
10:35:57 than a hundred people, business leaders, people interested
10:36:00 in doing trade with Cuba and academics and I believe our
10:36:06 port director was there, Richard Wanio, to speak on the
10:36:13 legal trade we can do now and how to expand that.
10:36:16 June 2009, I went to Cuba -- no, I went to Washington along
10:36:22 with Al Fox, the executive director of the alliance for
10:36:28 responsible Cuba policy, to meet with the Ambassador Bolanos
10:36:30 in Washington.
10:36:33 We do have an ambassador to Cuba.
10:36:37 We don't have an embassy.
10:36:38 We have a, what we call a special -- an interest section,
10:36:46 and an office in Washington, where the ambassador from Cuba
10:36:51 cannot travel more than, I believe, 60 miles from there.
10:36:55 July -- June 27th, 2009.
10:37:00 There was a seminar on U.S.-Cuba relations with national,
10:37:05 political and economic experts.
10:37:06 That was at the Italian Club.
10:37:09 And I believe there were 200 people probably.
10:37:13 Many of the people here, again, that was organized by the
10:37:16 alliance for responsible Cuba policy.
10:37:19 And the, we had phone call report from, I believe from the
10:37:27 ambassador in Washington, who couldn't travel here.
10:37:30 We also had phone conference at that seminar with Bill
10:37:37 Delahunt, congressman from Massachusetts who has been
10:37:42 pushing for normalizing relations and for Americans to be
10:37:46 able to travel to Cuba.
10:37:47 July, 2009, I can't remember the date, I traveled to Cuba
10:37:52 for the first time.
10:37:53 And at that time, I did meet with President Alarcon.
10:38:01 He not only attended a brief, a reception briefly that our
10:38:05 group hosted at the hotel, he also met with me and some
10:38:11 other business leaders for a lunch that lasted three and a
10:38:14 half hours, where we talked about trade opportunities.
10:38:18 May 27th, 2010.
10:38:22 City Council workshop to discuss opportunities for Tampa to
10:38:25 prosper economically from reestablishing a relationship with
10:38:29 June 2010.
10:38:31 Mayor Iorio wrote to President Obama, encouraging the
10:38:34 allowance of Tampa International Airport becoming an
10:38:36 authorized port of entry and exit for direct flights to
10:38:40 June 17th, 2010, letter from City Council to President Obama
10:38:44 encouraging the allowance of Tampa International Airport
10:38:48 becoming an authorized port of entry and exit for direct
10:38:51 flights to Cuba.
10:38:52 September 20th, 2010, community political leaders met on
10:38:57 strengthening ties to Cuba.
10:38:59 February 17th, 2011, letter from City Council to the
10:39:05 Congressional delegation and senators, advising of Council's
10:39:09 continued support of direct flights from Tampa International
10:39:12 Airport to Cuba.
10:39:14 March 17, 2011, resolution passed by City Council, that was
10:39:19 our Council, this Council sitting here, expressing support
10:39:22 for the state legislature's removal of restrictions placed
10:39:26 upon Florida's public state colleges and universities
10:39:30 preventing cultural and educational exchanges involving
10:39:33 travel to Cuba.
10:39:34 September 2011, I went to Cuba to meet up with that first
10:39:42 flight, which this City Council and our mayor had been
10:39:48 supporting for over two years, who had been talking to our
10:39:52 And our government allowed that.
10:39:55 Now, I'm going to have another time line where I talk about
10:39:58 what's been happening in Washington.
10:40:01 But this is what's happened in Tampa.
10:40:03 So you know, that wasn't -- I didn't have the time to put
10:40:07 this in this perspective for this Council the first time two
10:40:12 weeks ago when I asked for a letter, a courtesy letter to
10:40:16 the people of Cuba and the president of Cuba celebrating our
10:40:21 first trip.
10:40:22 And I think this would have helped, but I didn't have the
10:40:24 time to do that.
10:40:25 Here's my report.
10:40:29 I'll pass this out to Council.
10:40:35 And there are copies available for anyone else who would
10:40:39 like one.
10:40:39 These are basic travel facts about Cuba.
10:40:49 2009, President Obama removes restrictions for
10:40:53 Cuban-Americans to travel to Cuba.
10:40:55 March 2011, President Obama announces eight new airports
10:41:01 were given permission to schedule charter flights to Cuba.
10:41:04 Eight new airports, Tampa was included in that, but we were,
10:41:09 we were only one of eight airports who got permission to do
10:41:12 Cuban-Americans can go as often as they'd like to visit
10:41:19 family and friends on the island.
10:41:21 I think I already read that.
10:41:26 That's saying that these Cuban-Americans can now travel as
10:41:33 often as they like.
10:41:34 Americans can travel under licenses.
10:41:37 I just want to point out that I cut and pasted this bullet
10:41:43 point this morning from Fox News.
10:41:45 Americans can travel on their license.
10:41:48 Certain categories of people can visit, such as government
10:41:51 officials, journalists and full time professionals attending
10:41:55 conferences or doing research.
10:41:57 Tour groups also can receive licenses for people to people
10:42:01 or purposeful travel, including religious or educational
10:42:05 After -- this is very important.
10:42:14 The Cuban government gave us the landing rights to allow
10:42:21 that first flight that we celebrated a couple weeks ago, and
10:42:25 the continued direct charter flights from Tampa to Havana.
10:42:30 If the Cuban government hadn't given that to us, we would
10:42:35 not be able to fly there.
10:42:36 So, every trip between the U.S. and Cuba has to be approved,
10:42:45 not only by Washington, but also by Cuba.
10:42:51 And our flights, I understand, were approved when there was
10:42:56 a visit of our airport director and prominent citizen and
10:43:08 philanthropist David Straz visited the embassy in Washington
10:43:11 and he spoke -- he's an ambassador to Liberia, Mr.~Straz,
10:43:17 David Straz, he spoke, ambassador to ambassador, asking for
10:43:22 us to be able to land in Cuba.
10:43:24 And the answer he got was yes, of course.
10:43:31 No one's ever asked that before from Tampa.
10:43:36 What happened on our trip?
10:43:41 I had a very brief trip because of our Council meeting.
10:43:44 And so I couldn't go on -- I couldn't go to the party at the
10:43:47 And I couldn't go on the flight, and so, when everybody else
10:43:52 landed in Cuba on that Thursday, we were still here till
10:43:57 10:00 at night.
10:43:58 [ Laughter ]
10:43:59 >>MARY MULHERN: Talking about not such exciting things.
10:44:01 We were talking about wet zonings and parking.
10:44:06 So, I left the next morning and flew and met the delegates.
10:44:17 I had to go through Miami, which we can talk about another
10:44:20 So I had dinner that we hosted for Cuban travel officials,
10:44:25 which by the way, the president, who is invited, President
10:44:32 Alarcon wasn't able to attend because he was meeting with
10:44:39 So Tampa got bumped by China.
10:44:41 But there was discussion with his second in command, Miguel
10:44:48 Alvarez the next day.
10:44:51 But that night at the dinner, we had very important
10:44:54 discussion with Xael Charters, the company from Miami who is
10:45:01 providing the planes.
10:45:03 One of the charter companies.
10:45:04 There are two charter companies.
10:45:06 And with the Havana tours and the Cuban, I can't remember
10:45:13 the name of it, but the people in charge of tourism for
10:45:17 And these discussions were about how Tampa's new charter
10:45:23 flights could be successful.
10:45:24 While TIA and the first flights to be scheduled after U.S.
10:45:29 approval was one of the first flights -- I can't read my own
10:45:35 Oh, all other, we were one of the first, as I said earlier,
10:45:41 all other U.S. international airports have been given
10:45:43 permission from the U.S. government, to fly to Cuba and New
10:45:48 So basically, if you're an international airport who has the
10:45:51 customs and immigration capacity to handle flights, you can
10:45:57 So, Tampa is not just competing with Miami, Orlando, the
10:46:03 other seven or eight flights that can now go to Havana.
10:46:08 We have to compete with anybody who wants to start direct
10:46:12 flights to Cuba.
10:46:13 The key for our flights to succeed is for our elected
10:46:19 officials, and business leaders to work together, to unify,
10:46:25 to work together, to make Tampa the gateway to Cuba for
10:46:28 Cuban Americans and for the international travelers who can
10:46:34 Cuba will allow direct flights from American city to
10:46:37 compete, but the number of travelers on Tampa's flights will
10:46:40 determine whether we can sustain regular service.
10:46:42 So basically, the Communists are going to let the free
10:46:46 market determine which airports can sustain these flights.
10:46:49 So if we want ours, our airport to be that gateway, we have
10:46:54 to work as a community.
10:46:56 All of us together, to make sure that we can get those, make
10:47:01 those flights succeed and so people aren't going to choose
10:47:04 to continue to fly through Miami or to go to Orlando, or if
10:47:08 they're coming from Europe, that they'll go to another
10:47:11 airport, they can go to New York, they can go to Washington,
10:47:15 They can go to Baltimore.
10:47:18 We want to be that hub we have to work at it.
10:47:20 As long as travel restrictions on Americans are on place,
10:47:26 there will not be enough passengers to sustain all of these
10:47:28 flights from all these airports.
10:47:30 So we will be competing for the flights.
10:47:33 For Tampa to be one of the routes to survive, we'll have to
10:47:37 attract enough Cuban-Americans and enough international
10:47:40 passengers to use Tampa as their departure airport.
10:47:46 These are simple bullet points of what I feel from my trip
10:47:52 and discussions and especially from hearing from the public
10:47:55 today, who were unified, who wanted to go even further than
10:48:00 what I had asked Council to support a couple weeks ago.
10:48:03 So I think the unity we see.
10:48:05 It's there.
10:48:06 But here are some things we need to do.
10:48:10 We have to have a concerted and unified marketing effort.
10:48:13 Oh, I have to announce big news.
10:48:16 The Tampa chamber of commerce, I got a text message, just,
10:48:23 this morning voted to send their executive director to meet
10:48:27 with Cuban people, I believe he's probably -- I didn't get
10:48:32 the details.
10:48:32 He's probably going to have to, or will go to Washington
10:48:35 first, but he will be planning a trip to Cuba to represent
10:48:39 the greater Tampa chamber of commerce and our intent to take
10:48:45 advantage --
10:48:45 [ Applause ]
10:48:47 >> -- of these new opportunities.
10:48:51 My second bullet point.
10:48:53 A relationship with the Cuban aviation and tourism officials
10:48:57 who oversee Cuba's tourism and can schedule international
10:49:01 tours through Tampa is paramount.
10:49:04 As we started those discussion a couple weeks ago in Cuba,
10:49:07 we have to continue that and to talk to them, we have to
10:49:10 And we now have the ability to do that as elected officials,
10:49:16 as people to people.
10:49:18 There are many, many opportunities for our leaders to go to
10:49:20 Cuba and to talk to them.
10:49:22 Third bullet point -- that was it.
10:49:27 We need to travel to Cuba.
10:49:28 My fourth bullet point is that City Council should recognize
10:49:34 our historic first flight in 51 years by voting to send the
10:49:38 attached letter to Cuba.
10:49:40 I'm going to pass it out to my colleagues if I can find it.
10:49:45 It is essentially the same letter, same content as what I
10:49:53 had asked to take with me the night before I left, with just
10:49:59 the basics of saying I'm bringing this letter to just say
10:50:04 that Tampa City Council has voted to send these greetings.
10:50:10 So, I will ask you to vote on that when I'm done with my
10:50:15 But I just want you to know that it's essentially the same
10:50:18 thing, and, except I was advised by David Straz that I
10:50:24 shouldn't say Dear President, Dear Mr. President or Dear
10:50:29 I should say Dear Excellency.
10:50:35 So I'm taking his protocol advice here.
10:50:38 I don't think we could have a better advisor.
10:50:42 In closing, I just want to say, you do business with the
10:50:45 people you know and trust.
10:50:47 That is why I am working to build a relationship between the
10:50:53 City of Tampa, our airport, our port, our agricultural and
10:50:58 business community and the people of Cuba.
10:51:00 This is one thing that I didn't include in here, but it's
10:51:05 included in my Op-Ed piece, which I'm also going to pass out
10:51:10 from two years ago when I originally went, one of the things
10:51:13 and we heard a lot about it from the public today, is that
10:51:16 we have been able to do agricultural and other exports to
10:51:21 Cuba legally for several years.
10:51:24 Tampa's port, unfortunately, account for less than, around
10:51:33 two percent of the $360 million of revenue that the ports
10:51:42 and -- I'm sorry, that the exports from the U.S. bring in.
10:51:46 We are way behind.
10:51:47 The people that are ahead of us are New Orleans and Houston.
10:51:51 Way, way ahead of us.
10:51:53 So, we're not doing this business we can do now legally.
10:51:57 And that's another thing that I think that this, I myself
10:52:02 and this Council and the community needs to really push for.
10:52:05 So, we have got the chamber going to Cuba next, we need the
10:52:09 port to go there and work with them.
10:52:12 And the Aviation Authority.
10:52:18 And I realize now too that I left the very, very important
10:52:24 person out of this discussion about our first flight, and
10:52:28 that was a new aviation director, Joseph Lopano.
10:52:32 Someone mentioned him.
10:52:33 But he was in on the meeting too, where we got our, asked to
10:52:37 receive those landing rights.
10:52:39 In Havana.
10:52:40 He has been just an incredible, after all these years and
10:52:46 years of so many people in our community working for all of
10:52:49 this, he jumped right in, being not from Tampa, he jumped
10:52:55 right in and got, really, really helped to get us this
10:53:01 So I have to give him credit.
10:53:03 So, if Tampa doesn't work diligently to expand our dialogue
10:53:07 with Cuba, we are going to be left out in the cold.
10:53:11 When the cold war finally ends.
10:53:15 And that's -- this is why we need to be friends with them.
10:53:21 We need to show our friendship, because if we don't, the
10:53:26 embargo is going to end no matter what happens.
10:53:31 Everyone knows it's going to end sometime in the near
10:53:34 If other cities, other ports, other airports, other mayors,
10:53:39 other City Councils, other chambers of commerce, economic
10:53:45 development groups, governors, have that relationship, and
10:53:50 many of them do, we are already behind.
10:53:53 And so, we need to get together now and go for this.
10:53:58 I know that the governor -- that's another airport that
10:54:02 we're way behind, could be way behind is Atlanta.
10:54:05 The governor of Georgia recently went to Cuba, and, for his
10:54:11 state increased their possibilities for exporting
10:54:16 agricultural goods to Cuba.
10:54:18 So, I would like to pass the gavel to finance chair Harry
10:54:31 Cohen, ask Council -- hopefully you've had a chance to
10:54:40 speed read the letter.
10:54:41 Ask you to sign this and I would like to recognize that my
10:54:45 wording -- I don't know if I kept a copy information myself.
10:54:47 My wording in this letter says that we -- does not say that
10:54:55 Tampa City Council is sending its greetings.
10:54:58 It says that Tampa City Council has voted to send greetings.
10:55:03 So if you support this letter, it will be by a vote of
10:55:09 If Councilmember Suarez does not wish to support it, it is
10:55:15 not suggested that he would.
10:55:17 His name will not be on this letterhead.
10:55:19 The letterhead will come from City Council, but not
10:55:22 including everyone's name.
10:55:26 >> Do we have a motion?
10:55:28 >>MARY MULHERN: So that is my motion.
10:55:29 I'd like to ask Council to vote to send the letter draft
10:55:34 that I just gave you to President Alarcon.
10:55:46 Because it couldn't be hand carried, it will have to go to
10:55:49 Washington and be sent in the diplomatic pouch with the
10:55:56 >> We have a motion on the floor, do we have a second?
10:55:59 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I have a second for discussion.
10:56:01 >> We have a second.
10:56:01 We have a motion by Councilmember Mulhern, seconded by
10:56:06 Councilwoman Capin.
10:56:09 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Councilwoman Mulhern, please read the
10:56:12 So that everyone is aware of what we are.
10:56:17 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
10:56:17 That's a very good suggestion.
10:56:18 September 23rd, 2011, The Honorable Ricardo Alarcon,
10:56:25 president of the national assembly of Cuba, Havana, Cuba,
10:56:30 Dear Excellency.
10:56:31 The Tampa City Council has voted to send greetings to you
10:56:34 and to the people of Cuba in recognition of the historic
10:56:37 resumption of the first commercial flights between Tampa and
10:56:40 Havana in 51 years.
10:56:42 While a Tampa City Council meeting prevented me from flying
10:56:45 on the September 8th, 2011 charter flight, I traveled
10:56:49 through Miami to Tampa -- to Havana -- got to fix that --
10:56:54 the next day to join the group of local officials and
10:56:57 business people who are on that first flight.
10:57:00 As you may recall on my first trip to Cuba two years ago, we
10:57:04 discussed economic opportunities for Tampa in the area of
10:57:07 trade with and travel to Cuba.
10:57:09 Much has changed since that date.
10:57:12 With the U.S. allowance of commercial flights from ten
10:57:15 additional U.S. airports and allowance for Cuban-Americans
10:57:19 to travel to Cuba.
10:57:20 The first departure from Tampa International Airport was a
10:57:28 celebrated occasion here.
10:57:30 The history of Cuba cannot be written without the mention of
10:57:33 The history of Tampa cannot be written without many chapters
10:57:34 on Cuba and the Cuban people.
10:57:36 Our city seal, which heads this letter, depicts the mascot,
10:57:40 one of the steamships that brought so many of Tampa's first
10:57:43 Cuban immigrants and the cigar industry to Tampa and
10:57:47 literally put us on the map.
10:57:49 Tampa's official city seal was adopted in 1888, by motion of
10:57:55 our predecessor serving on Tampa City Council, the son of
10:58:01 Vincente Martinez-Ybor, founder of Tampa's most famous cigar
10:58:06 factory and namesake of our historic neighborhood Ybor City.
10:58:11 I regret that our schedules did not allow us to meet on this
10:58:17 trip, but look forward to meeting with you again in the near
10:58:20 Respectfully yours, Mary Mulhern, Chair Pro Tem, Tampa City
10:58:25 >> Is there any discussion?
10:58:31 Councilman Reddick?
10:58:35 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
10:58:36 Here's my concerns.
10:58:41 First, I think official letter going to the Cuban government
10:58:49 should've come from the mayor of this city.
10:58:50 That's number one.
10:58:52 I think in that capacity, we're going to do this, should
10:59:01 come directly from the mayor's office.
10:59:03 I don't know what's the mayor's position.
10:59:05 I haven't heard him speak publicly about it.
10:59:09 And I don't see his chief of staff or nobody here to speak
10:59:13 in that respect.
10:59:14 Secondly, when I look at this letter, a portion of this
10:59:17 letter reflect not coming from City Council, it's more a
10:59:24 personal letter coming from chair pro tem.
10:59:27 And I think if some language was taken out and redefine it
10:59:34 more in a form of the Council versus, when you personalize
10:59:41 it, it more comes from the chair pro tem instead of the
10:59:45 And that's why I have a problem with that part of it.
10:59:48 So the third part, let me ask, I don't know if anybody can
10:59:55 answer this question.
10:59:56 I'd like to know how many municipalities or cities in this
11:00:04 country have submitted a letter to Cuban government
11:00:12 outlining their concerns about establishing a form of
11:00:18 communications with them.
11:00:22 If I can get that answer from someone, I don't know pro
11:00:30 Chairman you have it, I don't know if someone from the
11:00:33 audience can speak to that.
11:00:35 >>MARY MULHERN: I believe, if anybody knows the answer to
11:00:37 that, it would be Al Fox, who is here.
11:00:40 If he'd like to.
11:00:43 >>FRANK REDDICK: If he's here, he can speak.
11:00:45 >>MARY MULHERN: If you'd like to speak.
11:00:51 >>MARY MULHERN: You have to speak to give us an answer.
11:00:54 >> The answer is hundreds.
11:00:56 Houston, Dallas, New Orleans, Mobile, Boise, Idaho.
11:01:06 Chicago, hundreds, hundreds.
11:01:09 I mean, where you had a senator or a governor or mayor or
11:01:14 City Council group, county commissioners, Fulton County,
11:01:20 They've all communicated with the Cuban government.
11:01:25 And I understand that when you say the Cuban government, it
11:01:28 looks like the City Council is negotiating something with
11:01:30 the Cuban government.
11:01:31 That's just not the facts.
11:01:33 The facts are, the answer is literally hundreds of
11:01:35 municipalities across this country have communicated with
11:01:42 the Cuban government.
11:01:44 All the latter.
11:01:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
11:01:47 I have no problem supporting the intent, what we're trying
11:01:51 to do here.
11:01:52 But I think the language has to be re-done.
11:02:00 And I can accept saying on behalf of Tampa City Council, but
11:02:06 I think Tampa City Council voted to send greetings on behalf
11:02:11 of Tampa City Council, then you're doing it more in the
11:02:15 formality of a business letter from the Council, versus a
11:02:18 personal letter because, none of us -- I haven't gone to
11:02:22 I haven't met with anyone there.
11:02:27 So it seemed more personal when you talk about, you talk
11:02:32 about economics, but what I'm speaking of, we are saying on
11:02:36 behalf of this Council, we send greetings on this historic
11:02:40 And I can support that.
11:02:41 And support this intent with the change of the language.
11:02:46 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
11:02:49 Councilmember Reddick.
11:02:49 I think that's a really good point.
11:02:51 That's actually the language I changed because I didn't
11:02:53 think I had unanimous support.
11:02:55 So, I think the reason I changed the language was because
11:03:03 this is now the third time we have had discussion about this
11:03:09 letter, which I had hoped would be, already be filed away in
11:03:14 the archives.
11:03:15 In Tampa and in Havana.
11:03:18 But, if this allows us to send a letter that is from the
11:03:25 Councilmembers, who support it, those who vote for it, and
11:03:30 if we say, you know, I really did this in deference to
11:03:36 Councilmember Suarez, who has made very clear that he wasn't
11:03:40 comfortable with this.
11:03:41 So, my suggestion is that we vote on it and if we get a
11:03:50 unanimous vote, we could then change the language.
11:03:55 I think we might find that out from our discussion here,
11:03:58 whether we'll have unity or not.
11:04:02 >> Councilwoman Montelione would like to speak.
11:04:06 I also can make the suggestion that we're going to be here a
11:04:09 long time today.
11:04:10 So we can always have something done with the language and
11:04:13 brought back into the meeting a little bit later on.
11:04:17 Councilwoman Montelione.
11:04:20 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, Councilman Cohen.
11:04:22 And I too support sending correspondence to the Cuban
11:04:28 And, but I do share Councilman's Reddick's concerns about
11:04:34 the person in which this letter is written.
11:04:38 And really, I meanwhile I've been he sitting here and
11:04:43 reading this and taking that into account, I made two
11:04:47 changes that I think, and I'll give you those changes and
11:04:52 I'll tell the public what those changes are.
11:04:53 And I think it would just transform the letter into
11:04:56 something that possibly we could all support.
11:04:58 And that is the, let's see.
11:05:05 It's the second sentence in the first paragraph.
11:05:08 And removing the portion where it says about preventing you
11:05:14 from flying on September 8th because of the Council meeting.
11:05:17 So, we would keep the first sentence, the Tampa City Council
11:05:21 has voted to send greetings to you and the people of Cuba in
11:05:24 recognition of the historic resurface of the first
11:05:26 commercial flights between Tampa and Havana in 51 years.
11:05:31 And that would be the entire first paragraph.
11:05:33 And then in the second paragraph, again, removing the first
11:05:39 sentence, which recalls your first trip.
11:05:43 So that would again take out the personal nature of the
11:05:47 But leaving the second sentence, much has changed recently
11:05:53 with the U.S. allowance of commercial flights.
11:05:55 So just removing the personal reference.
11:05:57 Leaving the last, the third paragraph exactly as it is.
11:06:02 I think that is a very nice sentiment to have.
11:06:08 And in that last sentence, last paragraph, again, removing
11:06:14 the personal nature of the letter.
11:06:17 It would be we look forward to expanding the number and
11:06:21 frequency of flights and the opportunity to see additional
11:06:26 opportunities, or additional trade -- opportunities for
11:06:31 additional contact or something of that nature in the last
11:06:35 But I think that just removes all the personal nature of the
11:06:40 >>MARY MULHERN: That's fine with me.
11:06:41 Can you repeat -- you were adding a new, a new -- what was
11:06:48 that last?
11:06:49 Didn't you just add something new?
11:06:51 That isn't in my draft?
11:06:54 I'll write it down.
11:06:56 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I changed, I took out much has changed --
11:07:00 >>MARY MULHERN: No, I got that.
11:07:01 The last thing.
11:07:04 >>LISA MONTELIONE: The closing.
11:07:05 If I were writing it, I would say we look forward to
11:07:09 expanding the number and frequency of flights.
11:07:14 And I'm, really, because I'm composing this here on the fly.
11:07:19 Somehow saying, looking forward to seeing additional
11:07:24 opportunities in the future.
11:07:25 Not defining what those opportunities would be, because.
11:07:34 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.
11:07:35 That is fine with me.
11:07:37 So I think what we have so far, we'll hear from anyone else
11:07:43 that wants to speak.
11:07:45 >> Is there anyone else?
11:07:46 Councilwoman Capin?
11:07:49 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yes, I also agree that if we are going to
11:07:55 send the letter, then it has to be from us.
11:07:57 And of course signed, if it is voted to go ahead and pass
11:08:03 this through.
11:08:04 I have no problem with that I want to remind Council when we
11:08:07 said this should come from the mayor, we are an independent
11:08:11 and separate part of the Tampa government.
11:08:14 So that would, we can make a resolution, but the mayor is
11:08:22 administrative, we are legislative.
11:08:24 The other thing I'd like to say is that I heard our port
11:08:30 director speak the other day, Mr. Wanio.
11:08:35 We are 380 nautical miles from the port of Havana.
11:08:41 We are the closest port in the state of Florida.
11:08:45 In nautical miles.
11:08:47 And he has, at that lunch, he has already, he has had
11:08:55 And he said he personally spent personal money to bring
11:09:02 university professors from Havana to Tampa at that luncheon.
11:09:06 So that is a dialogue that's already happening.
11:09:09 The other thing I want to point out that many people don't
11:09:11 know, when you talk about Houston and you talk about all
11:09:14 these other ports and all these other cities, the City of
11:09:17 Tampa, the historic Cuban club that is in Ybor City, through
11:09:22 those doors, every, since that Cuban club has been there,
11:09:26 every president of Cuba has walked through those doors,
11:09:29 including Fidel Castro.
11:09:31 That is the connection that Tampa has to Cuba.
11:09:37 That is a sign from the economic impact that this city can
11:09:47 have, that the trade with Cuba.
11:09:51 My husband is from Europe.
11:09:52 We travel many times there.
11:09:54 For years, for 40 years, I have been seeing travel posters
11:10:03 to Cuba, and they catch my attention way back.
11:10:07 People have been going to Cuba, we're the only ones.
11:10:11 The rest of the world has, is there.
11:10:14 My husband has a saying, he is from Spain.
11:10:19 And Spain has been building hotels in Cuba.
11:10:25 The golf courses that are going up will be managed by a
11:10:30 Spanish conglomerate.
11:10:32 And we smile and he looked at me and he says, Cuba's being
11:10:39 recolonized one hotel at a time.
11:10:41 [ Laughter ]
11:10:46 >>YVONNE CAPIN: If we do this as a "we" letter of, you know,
11:10:54 welcoming this first flight 51 years, I would very gladly
11:10:59 endorse and vote for it.
11:11:01 Thank you.
11:11:06 >> Councilman Suarez?
11:11:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'm not going to have a discussion.
11:11:11 I'm just going to make a statement.
11:11:13 First of all, I want to apologize to my colleagues for
11:11:16 belaboring the point that I made twice.
11:11:18 Again, it had nothing to do with flights.
11:11:21 Had nothing to do with trade.
11:11:22 It had nothing to do with Cuba per se.
11:11:25 And I know it's hard for people to believe because I've been
11:11:28 characterized in certain areas as if I'm against trade with
11:11:31 Cuba, against the Cuban people.
11:11:34 Against anything that has to do with changing our trade
11:11:39 That is not the point I was making.
11:11:41 Still not the point I'm making.
11:11:43 We have a government, federal government that makes foreign
11:11:49 They do have in place an embargo, which has opened up quite
11:11:53 a bit over the last 25 years.
11:11:55 As I had mentioned the last time, the last meeting, last
11:11:59 week, I was on one of the first committees greater Tampa
11:12:03 chamber of commerce talking about how we could trade with
11:12:07 Whenever the federal government had changed their policy.
11:12:10 It's changed significantly since 1990, when I was first on
11:12:14 that board.
11:12:14 And again, my point is only about government to government
11:12:21 Councilwoman Capin made a comment right now about we are an
11:12:24 independent body.
11:12:25 And we do, we can send these letters to anyone.
11:12:28 The charter does say that the mayor does speak for the city.
11:12:31 He's our spokesman according to the charter.
11:12:41 I don't believe that we should make government to government
11:12:44 communications from this Council, to governments that do not
11:12:48 have normalized relations with the U.S. government.
11:12:51 That's all I'm saying.
11:12:52 And again, it can mean any government.
11:12:54 Whether it's the Palestinian authority, Syrian government,
11:12:58 whatever it is.
11:12:59 I think that our jobs concern more about what we are going
11:13:03 to deliver services and less about this particular issue.
11:13:07 And again, I applaud everyone that wants to open up trade
11:13:11 with Cuba and open up communication with Cuba.
11:13:15 I think we should talk to our state and federal government,
11:13:17 if we believe that.
11:13:18 I really believe that.
11:13:19 And I think that the time line that Councilwoman Mulhern
11:13:24 brought out, I'm not sure, and I may be wrong about this,
11:13:27 but I thought that we had never sent a letter to the
11:13:30 government of Cuba during all that time.
11:13:32 I think we're these were all communications to our own
11:13:37 government or to the state government.
11:13:39 Again, that's the only point I was trying to make.
11:13:42 I still make that point.
11:13:43 And I think we should go on.
11:13:44 We have a lot of stuff on our agenda.
11:13:46 Thank you.
11:13:52 >> First of all, I agree with Councilman Reddick's comments.
11:13:57 I think that with the changes that he suggested and
11:14:01 Councilwoman Montelione suggested, that I could be in
11:14:05 support of the letter.
11:14:07 I think it's clear that reasonable people can disagree on
11:14:13 the meaning of these types of correspondence.
11:14:17 In my own case, I sat aside myself that I thinks it's
11:14:20 appropriate for us to send it.
11:14:22 And I, if we can get a copy of it, we can go ahead and move
11:14:27 the item.
11:14:28 What is the pleasure of the maker of the motion?
11:14:32 Do we need to get it typed up and brought back to us, or can
11:14:36 we do it the way it is?
11:14:39 >>MARY MULHERN: The one thing we have to, the one question
11:14:43 is just the first sentence.
11:14:45 If you want the letter to say on behalf of Tampa City
11:14:50 Council, or if you want the letter to say as I had written
11:14:54 it, the Tampa City Council has voted.
11:14:56 So that's up to Council.
11:14:59 >> I think since words matter here, it might be good to get
11:15:03 a clean draft to vote on just so everyone can look at it.
11:15:07 >> I think in answer to the, to Councilwoman Mulhern's
11:15:14 question, is that it would be, I would say it would be we
11:15:18 Because we are going to take a vote to send the letter.
11:15:23 And whether it passes by unanimously or by a majority of
11:15:27 Council, it says that we voted to send the greetings.
11:15:33 >>MARY MULHERN: Here is what I would like to do as maker of
11:15:38 the motion.
11:15:38 I accept the changes recommended, I'll read the letter
11:15:44 again, very quickly.
11:15:45 And I'd like to vote on it.
11:15:46 And then anything that needs to be, you know, if there's
11:15:52 something we missed, it will be fixed.
11:15:54 Normally when we send these letters, we make the intent --
11:16:03 >> Well, you'll read it.
11:16:05 >>MARY MULHERN: I'll read it.
11:16:05 So I'd like to vote now.
11:16:07 >> So go ahead and read it.
11:16:09 >>MARY MULHERN: Dear Excellency, the Tampa City Council has
11:16:11 voted to send greetings to you and to the people of Cuba in
11:16:14 recognition of the historic resumption of the first
11:16:16 commercial flights between Tampa and Havana in 51 years.
11:16:20 Much has changed recently.
11:16:24 With the U.S. allowance of commercial flights from ten
11:16:26 additional U.S. airports and allowance of Cuban-Americans to
11:16:29 travel to Cuba, the first departure from Tampa International
11:16:33 Airport was a celebrated occasion here.
11:16:36 The history of Cuba cannot be written without the mention of
11:16:39 The history of Tampa cannot be written without many chapters
11:16:42 on Cuba and the Cuban people.
11:16:44 Our city seal, which heads this letter, depicts the mascot,
11:16:46 one of the steamships that brought so many of Tampa's first
11:16:49 Cuban immigrants in the cigar industry to Tampa and
11:16:51 literally put us on the map.
11:16:53 Tampa's official city seal was adopted in 1888 by motion of
11:16:57 a predecessor serving on Tampa City Council, the son of
11:17:00 Vincente Martinez Ybor, founder of Tampa's most famous cigar
11:17:06 factory and namesake of our historic neighborhood Ybor City.
11:17:08 Now I can't read Lisa Montelione's.
11:17:13 I see.
11:17:14 We look forward to expanding the number and frequency of
11:17:20 flights and the opportunity -- and the additional
11:17:28 opportunities for travel between Tampa and Havana?
11:17:36 >> For cooperation between our communities.
11:17:40 >> I'm sorry.
11:17:43 >>MARY MULHERN: Let's write it right now.
11:17:44 The opportunity --
11:17:47 >> Additional opportunities that will present themselves
11:17:56 when the time is right?
11:17:58 >> Future opportunities.
11:18:02 >> There we go.
11:18:02 Well done, ladies.
11:18:04 Mull respectfully yours, Mary Mulhern, chair pro tem, Tampa
11:18:13 City Council.
11:18:14 >> Okay.
11:18:15 We have a motion on the floor.
11:18:18 It's already been seconded by Councilwoman Capin.
11:18:20 All in favor?
11:18:25 >> Motion carried with Suarez voting no.
11:18:29 >>MARY MULHERN: I just want to say one more thing.
11:18:31 Thank you, Council, so much for coming together on this.
11:18:35 And I will be writing my own letter.
11:18:39 [ Laughter ]
11:18:41 >>MARY MULHERN: But I didn't even have time to write before
11:18:43 I went.
11:18:43 So I'll be writing my own letter and thank you for your
11:18:50 This is the best Cuba discussion we have had at Council.
11:19:01 [ Applause ]
11:19:18 >>YVONNE CAPIN: All of this discussion just brought to light
11:19:21 a cultural asset that we have in Tampa.
11:19:24 And that is that heritage, that historic heritage.
11:19:28 So thank you, Council, for that.
11:19:32 >>MARY MULHERN: And now, is Alan Snell here to give us his
11:19:59 >> Good morning, folks.
11:20:00 I want to thank Councilwoman Capin for putting this item on
11:20:04 the agenda.
11:20:05 I am here representing SWFBUD, Southwest Florida Bicycle
11:20:11 United Dealers.
11:20:12 And I am here to give you a ten minute presentation about
11:20:15 the BAM network project that we have working with the MPO on
11:20:22 and hopefully the city and Hillsborough County as well.
11:20:26 >> BAM, is that action?
11:20:28 Is the A for action?
11:20:29 Because you changed your name.
11:20:30 >> BAM is simply the name of this trail project.
11:20:34 >>MARY MULHERN: Is it an acronym?
11:20:39 >> BAM is bicycle area mobility network.
11:20:43 >> Okay, thank you.
11:20:43 >> Bicycling has come a far way in the last few years.
11:20:46 I remember standing there on those lines three and four
11:20:52 years ago getting a chance to adjust the City Council about
11:20:55 bicycling in the City of Tampa.
11:20:56 And now things have come far away, we have a city
11:21:01 transportation director that is aware of the bicycle need.
11:21:05 And I'm happy to say that by attending many of the political
11:21:10 campaigns that led up to the City Council elections, that
11:21:13 the City Council members have identified bicycling as a key
11:21:17 public policy issue.
11:21:18 SWFBUD is working with the MPO and we have proposed a
11:21:28 regional trail system that consists of three regional
11:21:33 And we have nicknamed it the BAM.
11:21:36 The bicycle area mobility network.
11:21:38 The BAM very simply is a combination of the Tampa, the Tampa
11:21:47 canal, the Tampa canal trail that leads from New Tampa, down
11:21:53 along the bypass canal trail down to state road 60.
11:21:56 You folks should have maps about this.
11:21:58 And also this was really described in a really well-done
11:22:04 story by Mitch Perry in Creative Loafing just two weeks ago.
11:22:08 So we have the Tampa bypass canal trail.
11:22:11 Coming from New Tampa, down along the bypass canal trail to
11:22:15 state road 60.
11:22:16 We also have the south coast green way coming up from just
11:22:20 south of Ruskin, leading north to state road 60.
11:22:23 And both trails would be feeding into the Selmon expressway
11:22:28 green way.
11:22:29 Which actually has been discussed at the MPO level in the
11:22:33 last year, so, in fact, the MPO hired a company to have an
11:22:38 open house about the Selmon green way about a year or two
11:22:43 So these are three regional trails that SWFBUD is simply
11:22:47 asking that the City of Tampa and Hillsborough County
11:22:52 partner to create a super highway system for bicycles and
11:22:55 other users.
11:22:57 Where now they could come from New Tampa or Ruskin into the
11:23:00 City of Tampa.
11:23:01 When I attended an MPO hearing about a month ago, concerning
11:23:07 transportation enhancements and TIF issues.
11:23:10 What was fascinating was that there were people coming to
11:23:13 support the Selmon Expressway greenway who I was not even
11:23:17 aware of.
11:23:18 So, this issue has traction.
11:23:23 I really want to emphasize that the, it's become a popular
11:23:29 Creative Loafing, like I mentioned, did a front page cover
11:23:33 story about this issue.
11:23:35 And that story is in your packet.
11:23:37 So I won't summarize that.
11:23:39 I do want to say that this issue will be getting more
11:23:46 traction at the bicycle bash festival on November 6th.
11:23:51 And I do want to invite all of you folks to be there.
11:23:55 SWFBUD is giving a SWFBUDDY award to Councilwoman Capin for
11:24:01 her support of bicycling.
11:24:04 Councilwoman Mulhern was lucky enough to win a SWFBUDDY last
11:24:07 year, it's quite a coveted award.
11:24:13 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Maybe I can get one next year.
11:24:16 >>MARY MULHERN: She'll have a SWFBUDDY and the other
11:24:18 Councilmembers got Loafies.
11:24:23 >> I'm sure those will be going on your political resumes.
11:24:26 >>YVONNE CAPIN: You are absolutely correct.
11:24:27 That's going to be the first item.
11:24:29 >> I did submit a quick PowerPoint that I was wondering, if
11:24:32 it's available to show you, just a couple minutes, just some
11:24:35 of the scenes along the Tampa bypass canal trail.
11:24:39 I guess it's up there right now.
11:24:41 Is there a pointer?
11:24:50 >>MARY MULHERN: You need help?
11:24:50 TV people.
11:24:57 >> What you're looking at is the, the Tampa bypass canal
11:25:02 trail section of the BAM network, which leads from New Tampa
11:25:05 and what's great about the bypass canal trail is that it
11:25:09 links other facilities along the way.
11:25:13 And it intersects -- thank you.
11:25:15 It intersects with roads that have bike lanes.
11:25:21 So, SWFBUD supports the entire inventory of bicycle
11:25:26 We're not saying it's trails over roads or bike lanes over
11:25:30 It's simply, this is a major tool in your toolbox to get
11:25:34 bicyclists around in a safe manner.
11:25:36 We met SWFWMD, the water district, late last year.
11:25:52 And that's Colleen Kruk along with a Hillsborough County
11:25:57 staffer, and they're on board.
11:26:01 And this is the bypass canal trail that you can take right
11:26:05 But as you can see, you need a mountain bike.
11:26:07 You have wonderful access there.
11:26:10 We're asking that simply a pavement be placed down so that
11:26:18 bike commuters can use it.
11:26:21 Right now, you do need what we call an offroad bicycle to
11:26:25 accommodate it.
11:26:28 We also, there's 0 openings that can get through.
11:26:32 That's a good opening.
11:26:34 And there's other problems where we need better access on
11:26:37 what is a current public access trail right now.
11:26:40 There are bridges.
11:26:43 And I'm happy to say that the MPO board has approved a study
11:26:49 looking at the crossings.
11:26:51 So the MPO board is in the pipeline on this and moving this
11:26:55 project along.
11:26:56 And in many towns, bike trails go underneath bridge also.
11:27:01 Again -- bridges.
11:27:05 Again, it's wonderful, not only practical, it's
11:27:10 aesthetically pleasing.
11:27:12 A great bicycle experience, again, going under the bridges
11:27:17 and getting around the fences.
11:27:20 And like I said, this particular section is 17 miles from
11:27:24 New Tampa.
11:27:25 Which is City of Tampa, down along the bypass canal trail.
11:27:30 It's a great aesthetic experience.
11:27:34 The nice thing is that you actually have a prototype of what
11:27:37 we're looking for.
11:27:38 And two bicyclists who went with me on a field trip few
11:27:43 months ago, we visited the bypass canal trail south of I-4.
11:27:48 And there's a small segment that's actually paved.
11:27:51 So this is the difference.
11:27:53 But then you go back to the grass.
11:27:57 It's a lot more, it's a lot more difficult to negotiate.
11:28:01 The grass is high and it's not really practical for bike
11:28:07 And access again is an issue.
11:28:08 But, you have the patriot type.
11:28:11 There's about a half mile of pavement.
11:28:13 And again, you have to go underneath bridges and plow
11:28:16 through the grass along the bypass canal trail.
11:28:19 But again, it's, in some cases, you have barb wire actually
11:28:24 going across an opening, which is not too good.
11:28:27 He here we are coming to the end.
11:28:29 And it leads actually right to state road 60.
11:28:33 Bicycling has come of age.
11:28:35 We have seen a lot of improvements.
11:28:36 There are 12 stores in SWFBUD.
11:28:38 And bicycling is business.
11:28:44 I know you folks ran on campaigns of trying to get more
11:28:47 businesses and small businesses to come to Tampa and another
11:28:50 Another bicycle store opened in Seminole Heights and they
11:28:53 join SWFBUD.
11:28:54 I know the bicycle store opened just outside of the city
11:28:58 borders in the Citrus Park area.
11:29:00 So, people are putting their money and their wallets behind
11:29:07 And that to me trumps politics and everything.
11:29:11 People are willing to economically commit themselves to
11:29:16 improving bicycling in the Tampa Bay area.
11:29:19 Again, I want to invite all you folks to the bicycle bash
11:29:24 For the folks who are a little unclear about bicycling, and
11:29:28 I want you, not asking you to necessarily just believe in
11:29:32 bicycling and get behind it right now.
11:29:34 What I am asking you is to just put a moratorium on your
11:29:38 thoughts about bicycling and come to the bicycle bash
11:29:42 And talk to the people there because what you'll see is that
11:29:45 these are folks who are not even the super roadies.
11:29:50 And they're not necessarily even the guys on bicycles who
11:29:53 Jim shirk talked about in terms of being educated.
11:29:56 They're really every day people who want to ride a bike.
11:29:59 Like I said, people are putting their dollars and cents
11:30:03 behind this area.
11:30:04 It's just good public policy.
11:30:06 Again, I want to thank the Council and Councilwoman Capin
11:30:10 for this opportunity very much.
11:30:13 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilman Cohen had a question.
11:30:18 >> Just a comment.
11:30:19 You asked us to suspend our feelings about bicycling.
11:30:22 [ Laughter ]
11:30:25 >>HARRY COHEN: You know, in all honesty, I'd a love to ride
11:30:29 a bike.
11:30:30 The reason I don't is because I'm afraid to.
11:30:33 I represent South Tampa.
11:30:34 We know what the statistics are about people being killed
11:30:41 when they're out riding a bike.
11:30:43 And for someone like me, I would ride a bike if I could
11:30:50 motivate myself a little more.
11:30:52 But also, if I felt there was some place safe I could go,
11:30:55 just like the trail that you showed us today.
11:30:59 So, you know, we all voted for this in the MPO.
11:31:03 And I know I'm thoroughly in support of it.
11:31:06 And the whole concept.
11:31:08 I think it would be wonderful for our community to make it
11:31:10 safer for a bicyclists.
11:31:13 >> Well, the wonderful thing about this is that it links the
11:31:16 entire county and city together.
11:31:17 So you have people in Ruskin who have a vested interest in
11:31:20 seeing the Selmon expressway green way bill, because
11:31:25 eventually they can get to downtown.
11:31:27 It makes everyone in the county invested in more than just
11:31:30 their immediate neighborhood.
11:31:33 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilwoman Capin?
11:31:34 >>YVONNE CAPIN: It is an excellent, excellent program that
11:31:38 you all have put together.
11:31:39 And I want to share that I rode my bicycle to school for
11:31:47 seven years.
11:31:48 First grade through seventh grade.
11:31:50 I visited, when I last visited Key West, we got around on
11:31:57 We did not have a car.
11:31:59 We rode our bicycles.
11:32:01 So, it is second nature to me to get on a bicycle, since I
11:32:08 did that.
11:32:08 I also want to point out, this is, besides what you're
11:32:12 presenting here, it came to my attention, I saw this on the
11:32:16 news, that bike share or bike rental is coming to New York
11:32:21 City, as early as spring of 2012.
11:32:26 And Chicago is implementing a huge, I think two or three
11:32:32 thousand bike rentals in their downtown.
11:32:34 So, it is all coming to fruition and thank you for leading
11:32:41 the way.
11:32:42 >> Thank you, the bike sharing programs are sweeping the
11:32:45 You'll probably be seeing it coming to Tampa Bay as well.
11:32:49 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilmember Suarez?
11:32:52 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Alan, thanks nor coming.
11:32:54 I think we talked privately and you know, you've seen us at
11:32:57 the MPO.
11:32:58 We're various much in agreement and trying to make
11:33:00 transportation intermodal and not just about automobiles or
11:33:05 even buses or streetcars.
11:33:08 But I am going to make a promise.
11:33:09 I'm going to go out and ride my bike more often.
11:33:12 The second promise, and I hope Mr. Cohen will be in
11:33:16 I'm never going to wear bicycle pants.
11:33:18 [ Laughter ]
11:33:20 >>MIKE SUAREZ: But I will try and get out there more often.
11:33:23 You've been forewarned.
11:33:25 >> We appreciate that, Mike.
11:33:27 One of the things, the things about bicycle garb is that the
11:33:31 majority of people actually don't wear Lycra.
11:33:34 That's a beautiful thing when you come to the bicycle bash.
11:33:38 >>MIKE SUAREZ: We appreciate the fact you took pictures of
11:33:40 Jason Wilson.
11:33:42 He was not wearing Lycra.
11:33:43 Secondly, I don't know how Ms. Capin can get a low fee and a
11:33:48 SWFBUD, I'm not sure how that works.
11:33:50 You know, you've confused many people with the SWFBUD versus
11:33:58 People are saying what are they doing with the water
11:34:00 management district?
11:34:01 No, it's a different organization.
11:34:02 >> The funny think about the bypass canal, that is the water
11:34:06 district land and they have right-of-way.
11:34:08 What is great about this particular project, Portland,
11:34:11 Oregon, which is considered the preeminent leader in bicycle
11:34:14 infrastructure, they have built 300 miles of trails and bike
11:34:18 lanes for the cost of one highway mile.
11:34:21 This is a good investment and it's a good bang for your
11:34:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: That's why we think it is a good investment.
11:34:30 We appreciate the time and effort you put into it.
11:34:33 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilwoman Capin?
11:34:35 >>YVONNE CAPIN: You can tell how the high value that the
11:34:38 SWFBUD award has.
11:34:39 When my fellow Councilmembers have done nothing but lobby
11:34:43 for --
11:34:47 [ Laughter ]
11:34:48 >>YVONNE CAPIN: That competition is going to be fierce, I
11:34:51 can tell you.
11:34:52 Thank you very much.
11:34:52 >> For Councilwoman Mulhern, we are happy to extend the BAM
11:34:56 to Cuba as well, if that will help with funding.
11:34:58 [ Laughter ]
11:35:01 >>MARY MULHERN: One thing I didn't see was a lot of bikes in
11:35:05 But there probably are.
11:35:07 Just didn't notice them.
11:35:08 Councilwoman Montelione?
11:35:11 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Alan, you've been working so hard at this
11:35:13 for so many years.
11:35:14 Thanks for what you're doing.
11:35:16 And I know that you have come to livable roadways committee
11:35:20 And I encourage you to keep coming to livable roadways,
11:35:24 because as we move through some of the infrastructure
11:35:27 projects that maybe will get funded in the near future, at
11:35:31 the MPO, we can make those suggestions due to livable
11:35:38 roadways committee to the greater MPO board.
11:35:41 So that we encourage the bicycle sharrows or paths, or you
11:35:48 know, whatever we can do to make sure that bicyclists are
11:35:51 recognized with our transportation projects.
11:35:55 >> I thank the Council's support.
11:35:57 This an existing time.
11:36:00 Very compelling time for this issue.
11:36:02 Thanks for your support.
11:36:03 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you, Alan, for your one-man bicycle
11:36:08 advocacy that is has spread to, you now have all of us
11:36:12 wanting your little SWFBUDDY.
11:36:14 Can I ask, was I the inaugural one?
11:36:18 Who were the other people who got years before?
11:36:21 >> Well, I can tell you that Commissioner Mark Sharp
11:36:24 received one two years ago.
11:36:26 And city of St. Pete Mayor Rick Baker also received one two
11:36:33 years ago.
11:36:33 This year, we have some really terrific people.
11:36:36 St. Pete Councilwoman Lesley Curran will get one because she
11:36:41 actually had a very serious bike accident.
11:36:44 And we admire the fact she got back on her bike and was
11:36:48 continuing biking.
11:36:49 She was in ICU and had a very serious injury.
11:36:53 We are giving a buddy to a biker that started a wellness
11:36:59 And Rays' manager Joe Maddon, who is a very big bicyclist.
11:37:04 We give these to folks who are outside the bicycle industry
11:37:07 who stand up and do good things to make our Tampa Bay
11:37:10 community more bicycle friendly.
11:37:13 >>MARY MULHERN: It's great.
11:37:14 Thank you for everything you do.
11:37:16 I have to say both Councilman Cohen and Capin's comments, my
11:37:24 son, my husband is trying to Mike my son ride his bicycle to
11:37:29 school and I won't let him do that.
11:37:31 And our, our bad record of safety for bicycles in this city
11:37:40 is such a huge problem.
11:37:43 And I think it's the number one priority, obviously, for
11:37:46 everyone on Council and for the former Council and MPO
11:37:50 members who worked really hard on it.
11:37:52 I just want to say that, you know, I worked with Mark Sharp
11:37:56 on this years, couple years ago when I was on the livable
11:38:02 roadways committee, Linda Saul-Sena has been promoting it
11:38:06 for a really long time.
11:38:08 But we do have cooperation across municipal governments to
11:38:10 work on it.
11:38:11 And the Planning Commission with our comprehensive plan that
11:38:15 we adopted last year, also we adopted not only multimodal
11:38:21 transportation and bicycle safety, but safety.
11:38:26 And I pushed to make safety the tag that we're using,
11:38:31 because it is important for all the other great reasons, but
11:38:35 for us as a community, there couldn't be anything more
11:38:40 >> We have seen our community come together, which has been
11:38:42 really redeeming for me.
11:38:46 Police are on board.
11:38:47 You have seen their share the road three on their decals, on
11:38:51 their cruisers.
11:38:52 So Tampa police have bought into it.
11:38:54 Like you mentioned, we have a Tampa director here, Jean
11:39:00 Has to be interdisciplinary.
11:39:02 So it's good to see.
11:39:05 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
11:39:06 Are there any requests from the public for reconsideration
11:39:13 of legislative matters?
11:39:14 I just want to bring up to Council that we have 20 minutes.
11:39:25 And I think today, we're going to follow our usual rules and
11:39:30 break for lunch at noon.
11:39:33 See I think we will probably get through our consent agenda
11:39:38 and not much more.
11:39:39 So if you're here, might as well -- cool your heels for 20
11:39:44 minutes, but we're probably going to get to the things
11:39:47 you're here for after lunch.
11:39:49 >> Madam Chair, will we resume at 1:30?
11:39:53 >> Yes.
11:39:54 >> I think there are some people here that was for 9:30
11:39:56 public hearing.
11:39:58 >>MARY MULHERN: We have to get to those?
11:40:01 Item 3, ordinances being presented for first reading
11:40:07 consideration Councilman Suarez, could you read that?
11:40:14 >> I move an ordinance for first reading, an ordinance of
11:40:16 the City of Tampa, Florida amending Tampa code sections
11:40:20 3-40, 3-41, and 16-46, to provide for a specified civil
11:40:25 infraction penalty in lieu of the general penalty provision
11:40:29 of Tampa code section 1-6, for certain offenses relating to
11:40:32 possession or consumption of alcoholic beverages on public
11:40:37 property, amending Tampa code section 23.5-5, to include
11:40:42 code sections 3-40, 3-41, and 1-46, among the existing code
11:40:48 sections the violation of which shall be a class one civil
11:40:53 infraction, authorizing community service hours as an
11:40:56 alternative penalty for a class I civil infraction and
11:41:01 providing an effective date.
11:41:01 >> So moved.
11:41:02 >> Motion made by Councilman Suarez, seconded by Council
11:41:08 All in favor?
11:41:10 Anyone opposed is had.
11:41:12 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Miranda being absent.
11:41:14 Second reading will be held October 6 at 9:30 a.m.
11:41:18 >>MARY MULHERN: Item number 4, Councilmember Capin, could
11:41:20 you read that?
11:41:22 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yes, Chairwoman.
11:41:23 Chair Mulhern.
11:41:24 I'm sorry.
11:41:25 Ordinance being presented for first reading and adoption, an
11:41:29 ordinance of the City of Tampa, Florida making revisions to
11:41:31 the City of Tampa code of ordinances chapter 22, streets and
11:41:35 sidewalks, amending section 22-235, installation and
11:41:40 dimension requirements; repealing all ordinances or parts of
11:41:42 ordinances in conflict therewith, providing for
11:41:45 severability, providing an effective date.
11:41:49 >> Second.
11:41:51 >> Motion made by Councilwoman Capin, seconded by Councilman
11:41:55 All in favor?
11:41:56 Anyone opposed?
11:41:59 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Miranda being absent.
11:42:01 Second reading of the ordinance will be held October the
11:42:04 6th at 9:30 a.m.
11:42:07 >> Item number 5 I believe we, do we need to continue that?
11:42:12 We did that.
11:42:16 We'll move on to our committee reports.
11:42:18 Public safety committee, Councilman Reddick.
11:42:23 >> Thank you, Madam Chair.
11:42:24 Move items 6 through 17.
11:42:28 >> Second.
11:42:29 >> Motion made by Councilman Reddick, seconded by Councilman
11:42:33 All in favor?
11:42:37 >>MARY MULHERN: Parks and recreation, vice chair, Lisa
11:42:43 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I move items 18 through 25.
11:42:46 >> Second.
11:42:47 >> All in favor -- motion made by Montelione, seconded by
11:42:51 Councilwoman Capin.
11:42:52 All in favor, aye.
11:42:53 Anyone opposed?
11:42:57 Public works committee.
11:42:59 Councilman Suarez?
11:43:00 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I move items 26 through 33, and items 35
11:43:06 through 44.
11:43:08 >> Second.
11:43:10 >>MARY MULHERN: Motion made by Councilman Suarez, seconded
11:43:13 by Councilman Cohen.
11:43:15 All in favor?
11:43:17 Finance committee, Councilman Cohen.
11:43:20 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you, Madam Chair.
11:43:21 I move items had 45 through 52.
11:43:25 >> 51.
11:43:26 >>MARY MULHERN: I believe I had asked to pull 52 for staff
11:43:30 >>HARRY COHEN: Excuse me, with the exception of number 52.
11:43:32 >> Second.
11:43:33 >> Motion made by Councilman Cohen irks seconded by
11:43:35 Councilwoman Capin.
11:43:36 All in favor?
11:43:37 Anyone opposed?
11:43:39 Buildings, zoning and preservation committee, Councilwoman
11:43:45 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, Madam Chair.
11:43:46 Before I move these items, I want to bring to everyone's
11:43:49 attention, many of these items fall under the CDBG community
11:43:53 block grant program when we talk about taking care of those
11:43:56 less fortunate, when we talk about how we are appropriating
11:44:00 funds in order to serve those who are in need, these are
11:44:04 many of the items being moved here right now that further
11:44:11 There is everything from social services provided for
11:44:13 HIV/AIDS for rehabbing houses, for disadvantaged, computer
11:44:18 education, so it runs the gamut.
11:44:21 Drug abuse.
11:44:21 All kinds of things here.
11:44:23 So with that, with the exception of item 61, which has been
11:44:27 continued, I move items 53 through 102.
11:44:32 >> Second.
11:44:33 >> Motion made by Councilman Montelione.
11:44:36 Seconded by Councilwoman Capin.
11:44:38 All in favor?
11:44:41 Anyone opposed?
11:44:47 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilwoman moan, which one was continued?
11:44:50 >> 61.
11:44:52 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
11:44:53 That was through?
11:45:08 >> 102.
11:45:09 >>MARY MULHERN: 102.
11:45:10 All right.
11:45:10 We're moving right along.
11:45:12 Transportation committee, Councilwoman Capin.
11:45:20 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you, Madam Chair.
11:45:21 I move items 103 through 105.
11:45:26 >> Second.
11:45:27 >> Motion made by Councilwoman Capin, second by Councilman
11:45:31 All in favor?
11:45:32 Anyone opposed?
11:45:34 Okay, we'll move to our 9:30 public hearings.
11:45:39 I want to see which of these is that we have -- Councilman
11:45:52 Reddick, you mentioned the public was here.
11:45:54 Which item was it?
11:45:59 >>FRANK REDDICK: 111.
11:46:00 Mull we have 15 minutes.
11:46:08 So we can either -- Council can either, if you want to start
11:46:11 with that one, I don't know if that's going to be enough
11:46:14 time to even get to that one.
11:46:16 What's Council's pleasure?
11:46:19 If you think that we can finish.
11:46:31 >> Council, may I make a recommendation?
11:46:32 With 15 minutes, or 14 minutes remaining, and Council
11:46:36 agreeing to break at noon, perhaps you can go through each
11:46:41 one and just see how many people wish to speak on each
11:46:43 particular one, if there's one that doesn't require many
11:46:46 speakers, you could probably accomplish several of those
11:46:49 before a break.
11:46:50 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
11:46:51 Tem number 106?
11:46:55 Is there anyone here to speak on item 106?
11:47:00 >> You need to open public hearings.
11:47:02 >> Move to open the public hearings.
11:47:03 >> Second.
11:47:04 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor.
11:47:05 Anyone opposed?
11:47:06 , yes, Mr. Shelby.
11:47:09 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I ask that all written communication which
11:47:10 has been available for public inspection in City Council's
11:47:13 offers be severed and filed prior to taking any action by
11:47:16 motion, please.
11:47:17 >> So moved.
11:47:18 >> Second.
11:47:20 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor.
11:47:21 >> Secondly, a reminder, Council, if you've had any ex parte
11:47:26 communications with anybody related to any hearings this
11:47:28 afternoon, please before taking action, disclose with whom
11:47:31 that communication occurred and when that occurred and
11:47:35 substance of that communication.
11:47:36 Finally, there's a sign-up sheet outside if you are going to
11:47:39 be speaking, please make sure your name is on the sign-in
11:47:43 Again this is quasi-judicial.
11:47:45 I ask the witnesses be sworn.
11:47:47 >> Anyone who wishes to speak on any of these public
11:47:49 hearings today, please rise and be sworn in.
11:47:53 [Oath administered by Clerk]
11:48:07 >>MARY MULHERN: 106, anyone wish to speak on 106?
11:48:15 >> Move to close public hearing.
11:48:17 >> Second.
11:48:17 >> All in favor?
11:48:19 Councilman Reddick, could you read that?
11:48:25 >>FRANK REDDICK: Ordinance being presented for second
11:48:26 reading, ordinance by City of Tampa renaming and designated
11:48:32 several private streets within the City of Tampa within the
11:48:34 University of Tampa campus, lying north of West Kennedy
11:48:36 Boulevard, east of North Boulevard, west of Hillsborough
11:48:40 river and south of West Cass Street in the City of Tampa,
11:48:43 Florida, herein further mentioned and described.
11:48:47 Providing for repeal of all ordinances in conflicts,
11:48:48 providing for severability, providing an effective date.
11:48:51 >> Second.
11:48:54 >>MARY MULHERN: Motion made by Councilman Reddick, seconded
11:48:57 in a close caller by Councilman Suarez.
11:48:59 Can we vote and record?
11:49:04 Vote and record please.
11:49:14 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Miranda being absent.
11:49:18 >>MARY MULHERN: Item number 107.
11:49:22 >> Good morning, Council, an yea Feeley, Land Development
11:49:24 Coordination, items 107, 109, 110, 111 and 112 all required
11:49:30 certified site plans, both have been certified and provided
11:49:33 to the clerk.
11:49:34 I do have copies if you wanted to see those.
11:49:36 Thank you.
11:49:37 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
11:49:37 Item 107.
11:49:39 >> Anyone from the public who wishes to speak?
11:49:41 We have a motion to close?
11:49:44 >> Move to close.
11:49:45 >> Second.
11:49:47 >> All in favor?
11:49:48 Councilman Cohen, could you read 107124.
11:49:51 >>HARRY COHEN: I move an ordinance being presented for
11:49:53 second reading consideration, an ordinance rezoning property
11:49:56 in the general vicinity of 212 south Armenia avenue, in the
11:50:00 City of Tampa, Florida, and more particularly described in
11:50:02 section 1, from zoning district classification, RM-24,
11:50:07 residential multifamily to PD planned development, catering
11:50:11 shop, retail business professional offers, cigar shop,
11:50:15 providing an effective date.
11:50:15 >> Second.
11:50:17 >>MARY MULHERN: Motion made by Councilman Cohen, seconded by
11:50:21 Councilman Suarez.
11:50:22 Please vote and record.
11:50:25 >> Motion carried with Miranda being absent.
11:50:37 >>MARY MULHERN: Item 108.
11:50:39 Is there anyone from the public who wishes to speak on item
11:50:44 Seeing no one.
11:50:47 >> Motion to close.
11:50:47 >> Second.
11:50:48 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?
11:50:49 Councilman Montelione, could you read 108 please.
11:50:56 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I present an ordinance being presented
11:50:57 for second reading and adoption, an ordinance vacating,
11:51:00 closing, discontinuing and abandoning certain rights-of-way
11:51:03 portions of Gilchrist Avenue, Newport Avenue, Edison Avenue
11:51:07 and alleyway located north of West Kennedy Boulevard, west
11:51:11 of North Boulevard, south of vacated North B Street and east
11:51:14 of the CSX railroad right-of-way in Collins addition to West
11:51:17 Tampa Subdivision, a subdivision in the City of Tampa,
11:51:20 Hillsborough County, Florida, the same being more fully
11:51:24 described in Section 2 hereof, subject to certain easements,
11:51:24 covenants, conditions and restrictions as more particularly
11:51:26 described herein, providing an effective date.
11:51:28 >> Second.
11:51:30 >> Motion made by Councilwoman Montelione, seconded by
11:51:33 Councilman Suarez.
11:51:35 Please vote and record.
11:51:42 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Miranda being absent.
11:51:46 >>MARY MULHERN: Item number 110.
11:51:50 >> 109.
11:51:51 >>MARY MULHERN: 109.
11:51:52 Is there anyone from the public who wishes to speak on item
11:51:56 number 109?
11:51:57 Seeing no one.
11:51:59 >> Move to close.
11:52:01 >> Second.
11:52:03 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?
11:52:04 Councilman Suarez, could you read 109 please?
11:52:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I move an ordinance for second reading and
11:52:13 adoption, ordinance rezoning property in the general
11:52:15 vicinity of 401 West Kennedy Boulevard in the City of Tampa,
11:52:18 Florida, and more particularly described in section 1, from
11:52:21 zoning district classification PD-A, planned development
11:52:25 alternative, CG, commercial general, CI, commercial
11:52:30 intensive and RM-24 residential multifamily to PD-A, planned
11:52:36 development alternative college university private,
11:52:38 providing an effective date.
11:52:39 >> Second.
11:52:40 >> Motion made by Councilman Suarez, seconded by
11:52:43 Councilwoman Capin.
11:52:44 Please vote and record.
11:52:53 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Miranda being absent.
11:52:55 >>MARY MULHERN: Item number 110.
11:53:01 Is there anyone from the public who wishes to speak?
11:53:08 >> Todd Seemy, 2706 north, Tampa, Florida, just wanted to
11:53:13 say thank you to staff.
11:53:14 Thank you for John Barrios at CFC.
11:53:18 On behalf of the New Hope Missionary Baptist church, we are
11:53:20 grateful for the city working with us and moving us along
11:53:24 quickly once we're able to overcome any questions.
11:53:27 Thank you.
11:53:29 >> Is there anyone else who wishes to speak on this item?
11:53:33 >> Motion to close.
11:53:34 >> Second.
11:53:35 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?
11:53:38 Councilwoman Capin, could you read 110, please?
11:53:41 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you Madam Chair.
11:53:43 An ordinance being presented for second reading and
11:53:45 adoption, an ordinance approving a special use experiment, S
11:53:48 12 approving a place of religious assembly and day care in
11:53:51 an RS-50 residential single-family zoning district in the
11:53:56 general vicinity of 3005, 3007, and 3009 East Ellicott
11:54:04 street and 3008, 3012, 3014 and 3016 east Louisiana street
11:54:11 in the City of Tampa, Florida, and as more particularly
11:54:15 described in section one hereof, providing an effective
11:54:19 >> Second.
11:54:20 >> Motion made by Councilwoman Capin, seconded by Councilman
11:54:26 Please vote and record.
11:54:34 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Miranda being absent.
11:54:38 >>MARY MULHERN: Item number 111, I believe we had public
11:54:43 here to speak on this.
11:54:45 We only have five minutes, so I'm going to suggest, I'm
11:54:48 sorry to ask you this, but if you could come back at 1:30.
11:54:54 And -- if Council would agree, we'll just hear items 112 and
11:55:09 >> Madam Chair, may I make a suggestion?
11:55:13 Do we know how many people are here to speak on that item?
11:55:19 >>MARY MULHERN: If you would -- raise your hand so we know.
11:55:21 Anyone here to speak on 111?
11:55:25 I don't think we can do it before noon.
11:55:32 That's why I wanted to hear them first.
11:55:34 So, we're going to move to item 112.
11:55:41 Is there anyone here who wishes to speak on item 112?
11:55:46 Councilwoman Capin?
11:55:47 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I wanted to try to make a suggestion.
11:55:49 There were so many hands up, if they wanted to put their
11:55:54 minutes together to where one or two people could speak.
11:55:57 We won't make it.
11:56:00 All right.
11:56:00 That was my suggestion.
11:56:02 >>MARY MULHERN: I don't think we can do it.
11:56:04 I want to give them a chance to speak.
11:56:07 Council Reddick?
11:56:10 >>FRANK REDDICK: As dare -- is there any urgent matter that
11:56:14 allowing us to having to stop at 12:00 and not extend it to
11:56:22 >>MARY MULHERN: I think we discussed it at the beginning of
11:56:24 the meeting, didn't we?
11:56:26 And agreed -- no?
11:56:28 I'm sorry.
11:56:29 I thought we had.
11:56:33 It's the pleasure of Council, but I really felt, I think I
11:56:36 talked about the other rules.
11:56:38 But this one in particular, this is a long day, and I think
11:56:42 that for the benefit of giving our best to the public, we
11:56:49 should really take that break.
11:56:50 I think there are Council people who have to leave for
11:56:53 lunch, so, sorry to say, I think we should break at
11:57:01 12:00 and come back at 1:30.
11:57:04 Councilwoman Montelione?
11:57:06 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I think this is where Councilman Reddick
11:57:08 was going.
11:57:09 If we can sus pend the rules and go to 12:30, we could
11:57:12 perhaps leer the item, hear all the speakers and then they
11:57:15 can go.
11:57:16 I mean, we'll still take the break.
11:57:18 We'll just take it a little bit later to allow for all of
11:57:21 the people who have been here.
11:57:24 >> I can stay 15 more minutes.
11:57:27 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I cannot.
11:57:28 This is the third board meeting I missed because of
11:57:32 So I will have to leave.
11:57:35 >>MARY MULHERN: Let me just say, for the public on this
11:57:39 item, and for -- that would mean we would have, probably
11:57:47 have one less Council person here to hear the case.
11:57:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: How many will be able to come back at 1:30?
11:57:55 If we're going to do that.
11:57:56 Because they was here since this morning.
11:57:59 And we was scheduled at 30.
11:58:02 So to their families, how many can come back at 1:30?
11:58:06 Mull all right.
11:58:12 So, what's the pleasure of Councilman?
11:58:16 >> I move to suspend the rules until 12:30.
11:58:20 >> I'll second that.
11:58:22 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?
11:58:24 I'm sorry.
11:58:27 We are going to go back to the item before yours.
11:58:30 We are going to go back to item 111.
11:58:37 >> Is the petitioner here?
11:58:39 >>MARY MULHERN: Is the petitioner here for item 111?
11:58:52 >> My name is Thomas C hills, 5005 north 20th street Tampa,
11:58:59 We petitioned to change from a RS-50 to a PD.
11:59:03 Basically this is the zoning matter.
11:59:07 And that's basically what it is.
11:59:10 I would like to hear the opposition first, please.
11:59:14 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
11:59:15 Anyone who wishes to speak on this, please come forward now.
11:59:18 And you can either stand up or there's room in the front few
11:59:24 rows to sit if you can't stand.
11:59:26 Thank you.
11:59:30 Go ahead.
11:59:32 >> Samuel Kinsey, 4610 Ashland Drive, Tampa, Florida.
11:59:37 For many years, the area now known as East Tampa was
11:59:41 neglected, and there were practically little to no rules.
11:59:47 Much of this time that that area was unincorporated.
11:59:51 So there were very few rules and the rules that did exist
11:59:55 oftentimes were unenforced or ignored.
11:59:58 And so, East Tampa has become an area that is slum and
12:00:03 And that is documented in a preexisting condition study that
12:00:07 was done in 2003.
12:00:09 As a result of that, that area has become a Community
12:00:11 Redevelopment Area.
12:00:12 I was the first chair person of the Community Redevelopment
12:00:16 Area of East Tampa.
12:00:18 And we had a charge to eliminate many of the conditions that
12:00:23 existed, that made that area slum and blighted.
12:00:28 I was pro development.
12:00:31 And I still am pro development.
12:00:33 But sometimes development and quality of life and public
12:00:40 safety conflict.
12:00:41 And in this particular instance, such a conflict exists.
12:00:45 When this particular structure was built, it's on a lot
12:00:51 that's 50 by 100.
12:00:52 And it's on the corner of 22nd, 42nd street and
12:01:01 The setback on Osborne is approximately one car length.
12:01:07 On the 42nd street side of the building, the setback is
12:01:13 about one and a half feet.
12:01:16 From the street.
12:01:18 And in prior years, that building has been hit by cars.
12:01:23 That intersection is narrow and it has a lot of pedestrian
12:01:30 and car traffic.
12:01:32 And it's just down the street from Williams Park.
12:01:38 Williams Park is on the corner of 43rd street and Osborne.
12:01:42 You know Williams Park.
12:01:43 The swimming pool.
12:01:44 And a lot of children walk through that intersection.
12:01:47 Going to that park.
12:01:48 They also walk through there going to school.
12:01:52 And so it's a very narrow intersection.
12:01:55 It's currently surrounded by residential properties.
12:01:59 And so if they wanted -- if they were to put that store
12:02:06 today, you would not allow that to happen because it
12:02:09 wouldn't comply with the current code.
12:02:10 So right now, that area also has a lot of loitering in the
12:02:15 And it's very narrow, so we're asking that we not allow them
12:02:20 to expand.
12:02:20 We would not even allow it to be there if they were coming
12:02:23 today to build that building.
12:02:24 So, we're asking you to consider that it's a residential
12:02:28 area, a lot of people there and it's a quality of life there
12:02:32 for the people that live in that community.
12:02:34 So we are asking you to please deny this rezoning.
12:02:38 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
12:02:39 >> Question.
12:02:41 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilman Reddick.
12:02:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: Because of the time, I wanted to ask quite
12:02:47 a few questions.
12:02:48 But I'm just going to ask a couple.
12:02:51 How long have you lived in that area?
12:02:53 >> I have lived in that area since 1964.
12:02:55 >>FRANK REDDICK: Since 1964.
12:02:57 Mr. Kennedy, you walk the neighborhood every day.
12:03:01 >> Every day.
12:03:03 >>FRANK REDDICK: You walk by that facility every day?
12:03:06 >> Every day.
12:03:07 >>FRANK REDDICK: You have seen different things around that
12:03:11 facility every day?
12:03:12 >> Every day.
12:03:13 >>FRANK REDDICK: And now, with due respect to the Planning
12:03:17 Commission, they recommend that this, they spot the creation
12:03:24 of growth of neighborhood businesses that enhance vitality
12:03:28 and quality of life in their community.
12:03:30 The quality of life in this community will not be enhanced,
12:03:35 do you believe or not?
12:03:37 >> No, this building would not enhance the quality of life
12:03:39 for the people of that area.
12:03:41 And in fact, again, if they were coming before this
12:03:44 commission today, before this Council today asking to
12:03:47 approve that building to be there, it wouldn't be code.
12:03:50 It's a 50 feet lot by 100 feet.
12:03:53 And the building sits one and a half feet from 42nd
12:03:58 The building and the street literally run together.
12:04:01 And in prior years, cars have literally hit that building.
12:04:05 And it's a zigzag area there and it's real narrow.
12:04:08 We have both pedestrians, in fact, it's so bad that the
12:04:11 residents have argued with the city for years.
12:04:13 We finally did get them to put some speed bumps in there
12:04:17 because of the traffic and the safety issue.
12:04:19 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
12:04:25 >> Good afternoon City Council men.
12:04:28 Once again my name is Samuel L. Moody Senior.
12:04:38 My concern here is, this particular building at 4020 East
12:04:45 Osborne Avenue, I oppose rezoning for three reasons.
12:04:50 Excuse me.
12:04:51 Number one is that it's no parking area.
12:04:55 The cars park in streets.
12:04:59 There's a lot of loud music that irritates our senior
12:05:04 citizens, which they call in about it on several occasions.
12:05:08 Number three, there seems to be activity of drug dealing,
12:05:15 that seem to be.
12:05:17 Also, we had a meeting on Thursday at Williams Park, the
12:05:23 police department was there with the meeting.
12:05:26 And some of the citizens complain about the noise there.
12:05:29 At that particular store.
12:05:32 Now, the police officer say he would go down and talk to the
12:05:37 He called me the next day and said he did.
12:05:39 And we are constantly calling in about this particular
12:05:45 store, the loud music, the gathering of cars parked in the
12:05:50 So, we are definitely opposing this rezoning.
12:05:54 Thank you.
12:05:56 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
12:06:01 >> Council, I'm Reverend Eddie Nunn Senior.
12:06:06 And I'm opposing the rezoning of that area.
12:06:09 I've been living there for 40 years.
12:06:12 One block.
12:06:14 And it's ridiculous to the music and the cursing and what
12:06:18 have you, and look like that's a congregating place.
12:06:23 And 7:00 in the morning, they're on the corner four and five
12:06:28 and six deep.
12:06:29 And we would not like to see anything else there, or added
12:06:35 >> Reverend Nunn?
12:06:37 >> Yes, sir.
12:06:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: If I may, Madam Chair.
12:06:41 >>MARY MULHERN: Yes, I'm sorry.
12:06:43 Councilman Reddick.
12:06:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: You have lived in that neighborhood for
12:06:47 many, many years?
12:06:48 >> And run a business.
12:06:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: And run a business there.
12:06:51 And you're highly respected in this community.
12:06:53 You see the one, right in front of your area in which you
12:06:59 live adjacent from this facility, there are speed bumps out
12:07:03 there on your street, is that correct?
12:07:05 >> That's correct.
12:07:06 >>FRANK REDDICK: And do you recall why, you were the ones
12:07:11 who actually sent in for those speed bumps.
12:07:15 >> Absolutely.
12:07:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: Do you recall the reason why?
12:07:17 >> Because the speeding traffic up and down Osborne avenue,
12:07:21 and really those speed bumps now don't do very much good
12:07:27 because they run 50, 60 miles over them and jump them.
12:07:31 >>FRANK REDDICK: And looking at the Osborne is a street
12:07:38 that's not wide?
12:07:40 >> No.
12:07:42 >>FRANK REDDICK: It's very narrow.
12:07:43 And if we had increased traffic, what do you expect to
12:07:48 What are your concerns with increased traffic?
12:07:51 >> It would be very dangerous, from what stands at now.
12:07:55 Traffic would be increased.
12:07:59 It would be absolutely ridiculous.
12:08:00 Even on that corner, as you were saying, you can't turn on