Tampa City Council
Thursday, September 24, 2009
5:30 pm
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09/24/09 17:30:48 .
09/24/09 17:30:48 [MUSIC].
09/24/09 17:33:16 .
09/24/09 17:33:19 >>> WE COME TO EVENING
09/24/09 17:33:20 AND WE'LL
09/24/09 17:33:20 HAVE ROLL-CALL.
09/24/09 17:33:20 [ROLL-CALL TAKEN].
09/24/09 17:33:25 .
09/24/09 17:33:28 >>> LET ME READ INTO THE
09/24/09 17:33:29 RECORD,
09/24/09 17:33:32 WE HAVE A MEMORANDUM
09/24/09 17:33:32 FROM
09/24/09 17:33:32 COUNCIL MULHERN.
09/24/09 17:33:34 I REGRET THAT I WILL --THAT I
09/24/09 17:33:37 AM UNABLE TO ATTEND THE EVENING
09/24/09 17:33:39 SESSION SEPTEMBER 24th, 2009, I
09/24/09 17:33:42 APPRECIATE THE MEMO BEING
09/24/09 17:33:45 READ
09/24/09 17:33:48 INTO THE
09/24/09 17:33:48 RECORD.
09/24/09 17:33:49 OKAY.
09/24/09 17:33:50 THIS IS FROM COUNCILWOMAN
09/24/09 17:33:51 MULHERN.
09/24/09 17:33:51 THANK YOU.
09/24/09 17:33:51 OKAY.
09/24/09 17:33:56 .
09/24/09 17:33:58 >> HE'S NOT HERE YET SO YOU
09/24/09 17:33:59 CAN'T DO THAT.
09/24/09 17:34:02 >> YEAH, HE'S NOT
09/24/09 17:34:04 HERE YET.
09/24/09 17:34:06 >> I MOVE NUMBER ONE BE TEN
09/24/09 17:34:07 MINUTES OR SO.
09/24/09 17:34:10 >> OKAY.
09/24/09 17:34:13 NUMBER ONE IS THE
09/24/09 17:34:14 RECOGNITION OF
09/24/09 17:34:17 THE BOY SCOUT TROOPS, AND SO
09/24/09 17:34:20 WE'RE GOING
09/24/09 17:34:23 TO HOLD THAT FOR
09/24/09 17:34:23 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09/24/09 17:34:26 >>> MR. CHAIRMAN.
09/24/09 17:34:27 >> I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
09/24/09 17:34:30 JUST WITH ITEMS NUMBER TWO AND
09/24/09 17:34:31 THREE, THOSE ARE CONSENT ITEMS
09/24/09 17:34:34 THAT HAVE BEEN PUT ON THE
09/24/09 17:34:37 EVENING AGENDA COUNCIL DIDN'T
09/24/09 17:34:39 HAVE A REGULAR MEETING THIS
09/24/09 17:34:39 WEEK.
09/24/09 17:34:41 WE'RE REQUESTING ACTION ON THESE
09/24/09 17:34:41 ITEMS.
09/24/09 17:34:44 I WOULD ASK THAT
09/24/09 17:34:45 YOU A LOU
09/24/09 17:34:48 PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE
09/24/09 17:34:49 VOTE ON
09/24/09 17:34:49 IT.
09/24/09 17:34:51 >> ANYONE HERE WISH TO ADDRESS
09/24/09 17:34:54 ITEM TWO AND
09/24/09 17:34:56 THREE ON OUR
09/24/09 17:34:56 AGENDA?
09/24/09 17:34:57 [VOICES IN RESPONSE].
09/24/09 17:34:59 >> ITEM 2, ITEM 2 IS THE
09/24/09 17:35:02 AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY
09/24/09 17:35:05 OF TAMPA
09/24/09 17:35:08 AND THE TAMPA THEATRE GRANTING
09/24/09 17:35:09 $2 MILLION.
09/24/09 17:35:12 ANYONE WHO WANTS TO
09/24/09 17:35:14 ADDRESS ON
09/24/09 17:35:15 THE ACQUISITION OF THE TAMPA
09/24/09 17:35:18 THEATRE LOBBY IS WHAT
09/24/09 17:35:19 IT IS FOR
09/24/09 17:35:20 $2 MILLION?
09/24/09 17:35:20 OKAY.
09/24/09 17:35:20 YES.
09/24/09 17:35:22 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09/24/09 17:35:23 I WANT TO RECOGNISE IN THE
09/24/09 17:35:24 AUDIENCE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO
09/24/09 17:35:27 HAVE WORKED FOR MANY, MANY, MANY
09/24/09 17:35:29 YEARS TO BE HERE TONIGHT WITH
09/24/09 17:35:31 THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE, FOR THE
09/24/09 17:35:34 THEATRE AND THE CITY TO
09/24/09 17:35:34 ACQUIRE
09/24/09 17:35:37 THE LOBBY, STORE FRONT, MARQUEE,
09/24/09 17:35:38 BLADE SIGN, AND FACADE.
09/24/09 17:35:41 WOULD EVERYBODY STAND TORE A
09/24/09 17:35:43 MOMENT, ALL THE HARD WORKING
09/24/09 17:35:44 STAFF AND BOARD MEMBERS.
09/24/09 17:35:45 PLEASE, YOU'VE SO MODEST THAT
09/24/09 17:35:48 YOU'VE WORKED SO SO HARD
09/24/09 17:35:48 FOR
09/24/09 17:35:49 MANY YEARS.
09/24/09 17:35:49 THANK YOU.
09/24/09 17:35:50 THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK
09/24/09 17:35:51 AND IT WILL BE MY PLEASURE TO
09/24/09 17:35:53 MOVE THIS RESOLUTION.
09/24/09 17:35:53 >> SECOND.
09/24/09 17:35:54 >> THANK YOU.
09/24/09 17:35:57 WE MOVE AND SECOND, ALL
09/24/09 17:36:00 IN
09/24/09 17:36:01 FAVOR, HOW ABOUT SAYINGAYE?
09/24/09 17:36:01 OKAY, OPPOSES?
09/24/09 17:36:02 THANK YOU.
09/24/09 17:36:02 [APPLAUSE].
09/24/09 17:36:10 .
09/24/09 17:36:11 >>> ITEM NUMBER THREE,
09/24/09 17:36:13 COUNCILMAN CAETANO YOU WANT TO
09/24/09 17:36:13 MOVE THAT ITEM?
09/24/09 17:36:16 IT IS APPROVING A RESOLUTION OF
09/24/09 17:36:19 AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF
09/24/09 17:36:21 TAMPA AND THE FINANCE OFFICERS
09/24/09 17:36:22 ASSOCIATION IN THE APARTMENT OF
09/24/09 17:36:22 $150,000.
09/24/09 17:36:24 >> SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09/24/09 17:36:25 >> SECOND.
09/24/09 17:36:27 >> MOVED AND SECOND.
09/24/09 17:36:30 ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
09/24/09 17:36:30 SAYING
09/24/09 17:36:30 AYE?
09/24/09 17:36:30 >> AYE.
09/24/09 17:36:31 >> OPPOSES?
09/24/09 17:36:33 >> YES.
09/24/09 17:36:35 >>> WE'VE BEEN BRIEFED BY THE
09/24/09 17:36:38 DEPARTMENTS ABOUT THE IDEA THAT
09/24/09 17:36:40 WE'LL BE ABLE TO OPERATE MORE
09/24/09 17:36:43 EFFICIENTLY BECAUSE OF THIS, AND
09/24/09 17:36:45 IT'S PRETTY EXCITING THAT WE
09/24/09 17:36:47 WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE ABLE TO
09/24/09 17:36:48 DEVELOP OR PURCHASE SOFTWARE
09/24/09 17:36:51 WITH THE ADVICE OF THE GFOA
09/24/09 17:36:52 PEOPLE THAT WOULD --THAT WILL
09/24/09 17:36:55 ULTIMATELY SAVE US A LOT OF
09/24/09 17:36:56 MONEY.
09/24/09 17:36:59 >> OKAY.
09/24/09 17:37:00 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09/24/09 17:37:03 >>> MOVE TO OPEN ITEM NUMBER 4.
09/24/09 17:37:05 >> 4 AND 5, I GUESS.
09/24/09 17:37:06 >> SECOND.
09/24/09 17:37:09 >> ALL IN FAVOR BY SAYING
09/24/09 17:37:14 AYE.
09/24/09 17:37:14 >> AYE.
09/24/09 17:37:14 >> OPPOSES?
09/24/09 17:37:15 OKAY.
09/24/09 17:37:15 ITEM 4.
09/24/09 17:37:18 >> THANK YOU,
09/24/09 17:37:21 MR. CHAIRMAN, GOOD
09/24/09 17:37:24 EVENING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL,
09/24/09 17:37:24 TONY
09/24/09 17:37:25 GARCIA, PLANNING COMMISSION
09/24/09 17:37:25 STAFF.
09/24/09 17:37:28 WE'LL PLANNING FOR THE
09/24/09 17:37:28 MARCH
09/24/09 17:37:31 CYCLE OF 2009, THE FIRST
09/24/09 17:37:34 ONE
09/24/09 17:37:36 IS
09/24/09 17:37:37 THE TRANSMITTAL HEARING.
09/24/09 17:37:39 BASICALLY RECOGNISE THE NEW PORT
09/24/09 17:37:43 MASTER PLAN WHICH WAS
09/24/09 17:37:43 ADOPTED
09/24/09 17:37:44 JULY 17th OF 2008.
09/24/09 17:37:46 LOGISTICALLY WE WERE NOT ABLE TO
09/24/09 17:37:49 GO
09/24/09 17:37:52 AHEAD AND RECOGNISE THAT VIA
09/24/09 17:37:55 POLICY DUE TO WE WERE
09/24/09 17:37:56 IN --
09/24/09 17:37:57 LOGISTICALLY DIDN'T WORK OUT.
09/24/09 17:37:58 SUBSEQUENTLY WHAT WE DID WE
09/24/09 17:37:59 REVIEWED THIS AFTER THE ADOPTION
09/24/09 17:38:02 BY THIS BODY OF THE
09/24/09 17:38:02 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND APPROVAL
09/24/09 17:38:03 OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SO AIM
09/24/09 17:38:06 GOING TO SHOW YOU A COUPLE
09/24/09 17:38:07 OF
09/24/09 17:38:08 SLIDES HERE ON THE ELMO.
09/24/09 17:38:10 TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE DID GO OVER.
09/24/09 17:38:11 THIS PORTION OVER HERE IS
09/24/09 17:38:14 BASICALLY SHOWING YOU WHAT
09/24/09 17:38:15 WE
09/24/09 17:38:16 DID REVIEW THE TAMPA PORT
09/24/09 17:38:18 AUTHORITY MASTER PLAN WHICH WAS
09/24/09 17:38:20 ADOPTED IN 2008 BY THE TAMPA
09/24/09 17:38:20 PORT AUTHORITY.
09/24/09 17:38:22 THE KEY AREAS ASSESSED DEALT IN
09/24/09 17:38:25 THE AREAS OF
09/24/09 17:38:28 LAND USE, ECONOMIC
09/24/09 17:38:29 DEVELOPMENT, INTERGOVERNMENTAL
09/24/09 17:38:32 COORDINATION, ENVIRONMENTAL AND
09/24/09 17:38:33 SAFETY.
09/24/09 17:38:35 THERE WERE A SERIES OF POLICY
09/24/09 17:38:38 CHANGES THAT WERE MADE IN THE
09/24/09 17:38:38 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
09/24/09 17:38:41 DEALING WITH THESE PARTICULAR
09/24/09 17:38:42 ITEMS OVER HERE.
09/24/09 17:38:45 WITH THE NEW
09/24/09 17:38:46 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
09/24/09 17:38:48 THERE WERE NEW POLICIES ADDED IN
09/24/09 17:38:51 THERE TO ENSURE THAT THE
09/24/09 17:38:51 TAMPA
09/24/09 17:38:54 PORT AUTHORITY'S MISSION FOR
09/24/09 17:38:57 THEIR MASTER PLAN IS
09/24/09 17:38:57 ACCOMPLISHED.
09/24/09 17:38:59 IN ADDITION TO PORT RELATED USES
09/24/09 17:39:00 THAT IMPORTANT TO THE ECONOMIC
09/24/09 17:39:01 DEVELOPMENT AND THE FUTURE AS
09/24/09 17:39:04 FAR AS JOB CREATIONS FOR THOSE
09/24/09 17:39:05 PEOPLE IN INDUSTRIAL AREAS THAT
09/24/09 17:39:06 ARE IMPORTANT TO THE CITY OF
09/24/09 17:39:09 TAMPA AND THE
09/24/09 17:39:10 CITY OF TAMPA
09/24/09 17:39:12 OF --FOR ITS FUTURE.
09/24/09 17:39:15 BASED ON THE FINDINGS THAT WE
09/24/09 17:39:16 HAD AND NUMEROUS DISCUSSIONS
09/24/09 17:39:18 THAT WE HAD WITH THE PORT
09/24/09 17:39:19 AUTHORITY, PLANNING COMMISSION
09/24/09 17:39:22 CAME UP WITH THESE POLICY
09/24/09 17:39:24 RECOMMENDATIONS WITH NEW
09/24/09 17:39:25 POLICIES, MODIFIED POLICIES,
09/24/09 17:39:27 RESULTING IN THIS RECOMMENDATION
09/24/09 17:39:28 HERE THIS EVENING.
09/24/09 17:39:31 WE FIND THIS
09/24/09 17:39:34 CONSISTENT WITH THE
09/24/09 17:39:36 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN .
09/24/09 17:39:39 >> ANYONE
09/24/09 17:39:42 FROM THE PUBLIC WISH
09/24/09 17:39:45 TO ...
09/24/09 17:39:48 >> ANDY GORED, CITY
09/24/09 17:39:49 LAND
09/24/09 17:39:49 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION
09/24/09 17:39:50 DIVISION.
09/24/09 17:39:50 ONE HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS.
09/24/09 17:39:51 IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WOULD
09/24/09 17:39:53 LIKE TO RECEIVE COMMENTS OF THE
09/24/09 17:39:55 DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITIES
09/24/09 17:39:56 AFFAIRS REVIEW OF THE PLAN
09/24/09 17:39:59 AMENDMENT THEY CAN DO SO BY
09/24/09 17:40:00 LETTING THE PLANNING COMMISSION
09/24/09 17:40:01 STAFF KNOW AFTER THE MEETING.
09/24/09 17:40:03 LEAVE THEIR NAME, PHONE NUMBER,
09/24/09 17:40:07 OR E-MAIL WE WE CAN MAKE SURE
09/24/09 17:40:07 WE
09/24/09 17:40:07 GET THOSE COMMENTS.
09/24/09 17:40:09 ALSO, THE CITY STAFF DID WORK
09/24/09 17:40:11 WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION
09/24/09 17:40:14 STAFF AND THE PORT IN
09/24/09 17:40:15 DEVELOPING
09/24/09 17:40:15 THESE POLICIES.
09/24/09 17:40:17 WE SUPPORT THE POLICY AND ARE
09/24/09 17:40:19 RECOMMENDING THAT YOU APPROVE
09/24/09 17:40:22 THEM TONIGHT AS WELL.
09/24/09 17:40:24 >> THIS PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE
09/24/09 17:40:25 WISH TO ADDRESS COUNCIL?
09/24/09 17:40:27 ANYONE WISH TO ADDRESS COUNCIL
09/24/09 17:40:30 ON THE
09/24/09 17:40:31 ITEM FOUR OF THE PLANNED
09/24/09 17:40:32 AMENDMENT?
09/24/09 17:40:35 >> SI ANY FIE BY SAYING AYE.
09/24/09 17:40:41 >> AYE.
09/24/09 17:40:42 >> MOVE TO SECOND.
09/24/09 17:40:44 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
09/24/09 17:40:44 >> AYE.
09/24/09 17:40:44 >> OPPOSES?
09/24/09 17:40:52 ITEM NUMBER 5.
09/24/09 17:40:58 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL, JAY
09/24/09 17:41:01 COLLINS,
09/24/09 17:41:03 PLANNING COMMISSION
09/24/09 17:41:03 STAFF.
09/24/09 17:41:06 ITEM NUMBER 5 IS
09/24/09 17:41:09 --MIGHT
09/24/09 17:41:10 HAVE
09/24/09 17:41:13 THAT UPSIDE DOWN,
09/24/09 17:41:13 OKAY.
09/24/09 17:41:16 50th STREET AND BUSCH BOULEVARD.
09/24/09 17:41:19 THIS IS AMENDMENT OF 3.5 ACRES
09/24/09 17:41:21 AFTER 17.2 ACRE PARENT PARCEL.
09/24/09 17:41:23 SET IN NORTHEAST CORNER.
09/24/09 17:41:24 THE REQUEST HAS BEEN INITIATED
09/24/09 17:41:25 TO RECOGNISE COMMERCIAL
09/24/09 17:41:27 DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS BEEN
09/24/09 17:41:30 ONGOING AT THE SITE SINCE 1973.
09/24/09 17:41:31 THE CURRENT CATEGORY WHICH IS
09/24/09 17:41:34 OUTLINED THERE IN PURPLE
09/24/09 17:41:35 FOR
09/24/09 17:41:37 YOU, THAT AREA, IS MEDIUM
09/24/09 17:41:39 DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
09/24/09 17:41:42 IT'S RESIDENTIAL 35 FROM
09/24/09 17:41:45 THE OLD
09/24/09 17:41:48 PLAN NOW MEDIUM
09/24/09 17:41:50 RESIDENTIAL.
09/24/09 17:41:51 GOT ANOTHER AREA FOR YOU HERE.
09/24/09 17:41:54 SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER
09/24/09 17:41:54 ON
09/24/09 17:41:55 THIS AREA.
09/24/09 17:41:56 IF YOU LOOK HERE ON THE BACK
09/24/09 17:41:58 PORTION OF THIS, THIS IS
09/24/09 17:42:00 ACTUALLY WE'RE LOOKING WEST
09/24/09 17:42:00 HERE.
09/24/09 17:42:02 BACK PORTION OF THIS ROAD RIGHT
09/24/09 17:42:03 HERE, WHICH THEN THE PLAN
09/24/09 17:42:04 AMENDMENT GOES INTO THE BACK
09/24/09 17:42:07 PART OF THE BUILDING RIGHT HERE,
09/24/09 17:42:10 THAT IS THE
09/24/09 17:42:12 MEDIUM RESIDENCE
09/24/09 17:42:12 RESIDENTIAL.
09/24/09 17:42:15 THE REST OF THIS SITE, IS
09/24/09 17:42:16 COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35 WHICH IS
09/24/09 17:42:19 A LAND USE CATEGORY THAT YOU
09/24/09 17:42:20 SEE
09/24/09 17:42:20 UP AND DOWN BUSCH BOULEVARD.
09/24/09 17:42:30 COUNCIL WILL RECOGNISE THIS
09/24/09 17:42:33 MAP OR AT LEAST PART
09/24/09 17:42:34 OF THIS
09/24/09 17:42:34 MAP.
09/24/09 17:42:35 THIS GOES ALONG WITH THE
09/24/09 17:42:36 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
09/24/09 17:42:37 THIS IS THE UNIVERSITY DISTRICT
09/24/09 17:42:39 WHERE IS WHERE THIS AMENDMENT IS
09/24/09 17:42:40 LOCATED.
09/24/09 17:42:42 SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT
09/24/09 17:42:45 EXIST IN THE UNIVERSITY
09/24/09 17:42:46 DISTRICT
09/24/09 17:42:48 INCLUDING IMPROVING MOBILITY,
09/24/09 17:42:49 ADIRECTING RESIDENTS FOR
09/24/09 17:42:50 DEVELOPMENT, CHANGING THE URBAN
09/24/09 17:42:53 FORM OF CORRIDORS AND
09/24/09 17:42:54 ACCOMMODATING THE INFLUX OF
09/24/09 17:42:55 DAILY COMMUTERS.
09/24/09 17:42:58 BUSCH BOULEVARD IS A
09/24/09 17:42:59 MIXED USE
09/24/09 17:42:59 CORRIDOR VILLAGE.
09/24/09 17:43:01 AS PART OF THE PLAN, IS TO LOOK
09/24/09 17:43:04 FOR AREAS IN THE CITY TO
09/24/09 17:43:05 ACCOMMODATE GROWTH AND POMLATION
09/24/09 17:43:08 AND EMPLOYMENT, MIXED
09/24/09 17:43:09 USE
09/24/09 17:43:09 CORRIDOR BEING ONE OF THOSE.
09/24/09 17:43:15 THIS IS A FUTURE LAND
09/24/09 17:43:16 USE
09/24/09 17:43:18 MAP AS IT IS TODAY.
09/24/09 17:43:21 YOU CAN SEE THE BACK PORTION OF
09/24/09 17:43:23 THIS SITE AT MEDIUM DENSITY
09/24/09 17:43:25 RESIDENTIAL OR WHAT WAS
09/24/09 17:43:25 RESIDENTIAL 35.
09/24/09 17:43:27 IN THE FRONT IS COMMUNITY MIXED
09/24/09 17:43:27 USE-35.
09/24/09 17:43:30 YOU CAN THEN SEE A VARIETY OF
09/24/09 17:43:33 DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AROUND THE
09/24/09 17:43:33 SITE.
09/24/09 17:43:35 THERE'S LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL,
09/24/09 17:43:37 THAT USED TO BE RESIDENTIAL 10.
09/24/09 17:43:38 PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY
09/24/09 17:43:39 DETACHED, THAT'S THE ORANGE
09/24/09 17:43:39 CATEGORY HERE.
09/24/09 17:43:42 AND WE ALSO SEE SOME LOW
09/24/09 17:43:43 MEDIUM
09/24/09 17:43:44 DES TENSE RESIDENTIAL,
09/24/09 17:43:47 RESIDENTIAL 20, TO THE
09/24/09 17:43:50 NORTH.
09/24/09 17:43:52 AND THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35
09/24/09 17:43:52 GOING ALONG BUSCH BOULEVARD.
09/24/09 17:43:55 TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
09/24/09 17:43:58 COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35, IT DO
09/24/09 17:44:00 MAKES AREAS THAT ARE SUITABLE
09/24/09 17:44:01 FOR GENERAL COMMERCIAL
09/24/09 17:44:02 MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND TO
09/24/09 17:44:03 ENCOURAGE A TRUE MIX OF USES.
09/24/09 17:44:06 THAT TRUE MIX OF USES COMES INTO
09/24/09 17:44:09 PLAY ALONG THIS MIXED
09/24/09 17:44:11 USE
09/24/09 17:44:11 COMMUNITY VILLAGE CORE DO.
09/24/09 17:44:13 THAT IS ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT TO
09/24/09 17:44:15 BE GUIDED BUT THE F.A.R.
09/24/09 17:44:16 SO WE
09/24/09 17:44:18 CAN HAVE A RESIDENTIAL
09/24/09 17:44:20 DEVELOPMENT HERE USING THE
09/24/09 17:44:20 F.A.R.
09/24/09 17:44:22 THAT IS OUR PRIMARY CHANGE THAT
09/24/09 17:44:23 WE'RE LOOKING AT: F.A.R.
09/24/09 17:44:26 FOR
09/24/09 17:44:28 COMMUNITY MIX USE-35 IS 2.5.
09/24/09 17:44:31 UNDER THE OLD PLAN
09/24/09 17:44:33 IT WAS 1.5.
09/24/09 17:44:36 MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL
09/24/09 17:44:37 OF
09/24/09 17:44:40 HAS AN
09/24/09 17:44:41 F.A.R.
09/24/09 17:44:41 OF 1.6.
09/24/09 17:44:44 THIS IS A 17.2 ACRE PARENT
09/24/09 17:44:47 PARCEL, VERY LARGE PIECE
09/24/09 17:44:48 OF
09/24/09 17:44:48 PROPERTY HERE ALONG BUSCH
09/24/09 17:44:48 BOULEVARD.
09/24/09 17:44:54 THIS IS A PROPOSED
09/24/09 17:44:55 FUTURE
09/24/09 17:44:58 LAND USE MAP SHOWING THE
09/24/09 17:45:01 COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35
09/24/09 17:45:03 ON THE
09/24/09 17:45:03 BACK PORTION.
09/24/09 17:45:04 CONSISTENCY WITH THE PLAN
09/24/09 17:45:07 DISCUSSED BRIEFLY ON THE
09/24/09 17:45:09 MIXED
09/24/09 17:45:10 USE CORRIDOR VILLAGES.
09/24/09 17:45:13 THESE ARE AREAS THAT ARE LOOK AT
09/24/09 17:45:14 A TRANSITION FROM ROAD CORRIDORS
09/24/09 17:45:16 WHERE INTENSIFICATION IS
09/24/09 17:45:17 POSSIBLE AND ENCOURAGED TO
09/24/09 17:45:20 CREATE NEW HOUSING AND JOB
09/24/09 17:45:23 OPPORTUNITIES PRIEL IMPROVING
09/24/09 17:45:25 THE PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT.
09/24/09 17:45:27 THAT LAST PART OF IT IS
09/24/09 17:45:27 IMPORTANT HERE.
09/24/09 17:45:30 THIS COUNCIL HAS SEEN TREMENDOUS
09/24/09 17:45:31 IMPROVEMENT ALONG BUSCH
09/24/09 17:45:31 BOULEVARD.
09/24/09 17:45:34 THE RESTRIPING OF BUSCH
09/24/09 17:45:37 BOULEVARD, THE CROSSWALK
09/24/09 17:45:38 IMPROVEMENT, THE SIGNALIZATION
09/24/09 17:45:38 IMPROVEMENT.
09/24/09 17:45:39 A LOT OF EFFORT, MONEY, AND TIME
09/24/09 17:45:41 HAS GONE INTO BUSCH BOULEVARD,
09/24/09 17:45:42 WHICH YOU CAN SEE NOW WITH SOME
09/24/09 17:45:45 OF THE TRANSITION OF
09/24/09 17:45:48 THE USES
09/24/09 17:45:49 GOING ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.
09/24/09 17:45:52 CORRIDOR
09/24/09 17:45:52 TRANSIT.
09/24/09 17:45:54 THIS GOES INTO THE CATEGORY
09/24/09 17:45:54 ITSELF.
09/24/09 17:45:55 THE LOCATION OF BUILDINGS AND
09/24/09 17:45:58 THEIR RELATION TO THE STREET AND
09/24/09 17:46:01 THE PUBLIC REALM AND EACH OTHER.
09/24/09 17:46:03 LOOKING AT A SAFE AND CONVENIENT
09/24/09 17:46:06 PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND
09/24/09 17:46:07 ROADS
09/24/09 17:46:08 DESIGNED FOR MOBILITY CHARGES.
09/24/09 17:46:11 THEY WILL ENCOURAGE DESIGN AND
09/24/09 17:46:13 DEVELOPMENT THAT PROMOTES THESE
09/24/09 17:46:13 OPPORTUNITIES.
09/24/09 17:46:14 THE CATEGORIES WITH ALL MIXED
09/24/09 17:46:17 USE CATEGORIES IS DOE FIND BY
09/24/09 17:46:20 FUNCTIONAL ROW THAT ALLOWS
09/24/09 17:46:21 A
09/24/09 17:46:22 MIXTURE OF USES.
09/24/09 17:46:24 THESE USES PROTECT ADJACENT
09/24/09 17:46:25 RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WITH
09/24/09 17:46:28 POLICIES TO ENSURE THEIR
09/24/09 17:46:30 DEVELOPMENT IS COMPLEMENTARY
09/24/09 17:46:31 THROUGH DECIDING OF BUILDINGS,
09/24/09 17:46:32 SCALES, AND LAND USE MIXES.
09/24/09 17:46:33 THERE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD HERE.
09/24/09 17:46:34 THERE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD JUST TO
09/24/09 17:46:37 THE NORTH OF T SO YOU LOOK
09/24/09 17:46:38 AT
09/24/09 17:46:41 ISSUES TO PROTECT THAT
09/24/09 17:46:41 NEIGHBORHOOD.
09/24/09 17:46:42 CONSISTENCY WITH NEIGHBORHOODS.
09/24/09 17:46:44 OBJECTIVE 22.2 LOOKS AT THE
09/24/09 17:46:46 CREATION AND GROWTH OF
09/24/09 17:46:47 NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESSES.
09/24/09 17:46:49 THIS IS A CORRIDOR THAT HAS A
09/24/09 17:46:52 MIXTURE OF USES,
09/24/09 17:46:55 BUSCH BOULEVARD
09/24/09 17:46:56 HAS GOT ALL.
09/24/09 17:46:56 YOU'VE GOT A WONDERFUL BUSINESS
09/24/09 17:46:59 THAT IS ARE UP AND DOWN THIS
09/24/09 17:47:01 FRONT MUCH THE LARGE OUTSTANDING
09/24/09 17:47:04 USES OF BUSCH GARDENS GOING DOWN
09/24/09 17:47:06 TO THE SMALL MOM AND POP
09/24/09 17:47:06 RESIDENTS WE SEE.
09/24/09 17:47:09 WITH THAT, ON AUGUST THE 10th,
09/24/09 17:47:12 2009, THIS YEAR,
09/24/09 17:47:13 THE PLANNING
09/24/09 17:47:14 COMMISSION FOUND P.A.
09/24/09 17:47:15 09-03
09/24/09 17:47:16 CONSISTENT IS THE GOALS
09/24/09 17:47:19 OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE
09/24/09 17:47:21 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
09/24/09 17:47:21 THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
09/24/09 17:47:24 >> COUNCIL?
09/24/09 17:47:27 >> I HAVE A
09/24/09 17:47:27 QUESTION.
09/24/09 17:47:30 I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT THE
09/24/09 17:47:30 CLASSIC INTERFACE WITHIN
09/24/09 17:47:32 RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, AND
09/24/09 17:47:33 IN THE OLDEN DAYS THERE USED TO
09/24/09 17:47:35 BE THIS WEST PROVISION THAT
09/24/09 17:47:38 ALLOWED YOU TO MAINTAIN THE
09/24/09 17:47:41 RESIDENTIAL ZONING WHILE, YOU
09/24/09 17:47:42 KNOW, ALLOWING PARK.
09/24/09 17:47:44 ANYWAY, BOTTOM LINE, IS THERE A
09/24/09 17:47:47 LESS INTENSE CATEGORY THAT
09/24/09 17:47:48 WOULD
09/24/09 17:47:50 BE A LESS ABRUPT TRANSITION INTO
09/24/09 17:47:53 THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH?
09/24/09 17:47:55 >> THE COMMUNITY MIX USE-35 FOR
09/24/09 17:47:58 THE CG THAT IS
09/24/09 17:48:00 ACTUALLY
09/24/09 17:48:02 OPERATING ON THE SITE IS THE
09/24/09 17:48:05 LEASE
09/24/09 17:48:08 ABRUPT CATEGORY
09/24/09 17:48:11 .
09/24/09 17:48:12 >> THAT'S IT.
09/24/09 17:48:13 >> YES, MA'AM.
09/24/09 17:48:14 >> NOTHING LESS.
09/24/09 17:48:14 >> NO, MA'AM.
09/24/09 17:48:17 >>
09/24/09 17:48:19 OKAY.
09/24/09 17:48:20 >> ANOTHER QUESTION.
09/24/09 17:48:20 >> OKAY.
09/24/09 17:48:23 >> RANDY
09/24/09 17:48:25 GORE, LAND DEVELOPMENT
09/24/09 17:48:25 COORDINATION.
09/24/09 17:48:28 THE CITY STAFF HAS NO
09/24/09 17:48:29 OBJECTION
09/24/09 17:48:30 TO THIS AMENDMENT.
09/24/09 17:48:32 >> ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH
09/24/09 17:48:33 TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ON ITEM FIVE.
09/24/09 17:48:35 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
09/24/09 17:48:35 >> SECOND.
09/24/09 17:48:38 >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY
09/24/09 17:48:38 AYE.
09/24/09 17:48:38 >> AYE.
09/24/09 17:48:39 >> OPPOSES?
09/24/09 17:48:39 OKAY.
09/24/09 17:48:49 .
09/24/09 17:48:52 >>> CHAIRMAN, MADAM, I MOVE
09/24/09 17:48:52 AN
09/24/09 17:48:54 ORDINANCE COMPANY FUTURE LAND
09/24/09 17:48:56 USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED
09/24/09 17:48:58 IN GENERAL VICINITY OF #350E
09/24/09 17:49:01 STREET AND BUSCH BOULEVARD FROM
09/24/09 17:49:04 MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL 35
09/24/09 17:49:05 TO
09/24/09 17:49:07 COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35 PROVIDING
09/24/09 17:49:10 FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
09/24/09 17:49:11 CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR
09/24/09 17:49:12 SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
09/24/09 17:49:13 EFFECTIVE DATE.
09/24/09 17:49:13 >> SECOND?
09/24/09 17:49:14 >> SECOND.
09/24/09 17:49:17 >> MOVED BY COUNCIL MIRANDA,
09/24/09 17:49:18 SECOND BY COUNCIL SAUL-SENA.
09/24/09 17:49:21 ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING
09/24/09 17:49:21 AYE.
09/24/09 17:49:22 >> AYE.
09/24/09 17:49:23 >> OPPOSES?
09/24/09 17:49:26 >> MOTION
09/24/09 17:49:27 CARRIES WITH MULHERN
09/24/09 17:49:27 BEING ABSENT.
09/24/09 17:49:27 SECOND READING COMING UP.
09/24/09 17:49:32 .
09/24/09 17:49:35 >>> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER TO
09/24/09 17:49:38 RECOGNISE THE BOY
09/24/09 17:49:40 SCOUT.
09/24/09 17:49:43 >> Mr. Dingfelder: SURE IT'S MY
09/24/09 17:49:43 HONOR AND PLEASURE.
09/24/09 17:49:45 IF YOU WANT TO BRING YOUR BOYS
09/24/09 17:49:48 DOWN FOR A SECOND AND BE
09/24/09 17:49:50 RECOGNISED WE'LL BE GLAD TO DO
09/24/09 17:49:50 THAT.
09/24/09 17:49:53 AND ANY OF THE SCOUT
09/24/09 17:49:58 LEADERS
09/24/09 17:49:58 WANT TO JOIN US.
09/24/09 17:50:00 MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU'LL HAVE TO
09/24/09 17:50:03 EXCUSE ME FOR BEING LATE BECAUSE
09/24/09 17:50:03 MY FATHER WAS TURNING 80 TODAY
09/24/09 17:50:06 AND SINCE I KNEW I WAS GOING
09/24/09 17:50:07 TO
09/24/09 17:50:10 BE HERE TONIGHT I WENT
09/24/09 17:50:12 OVER THIS
09/24/09 17:50:15 AFTERNOON AND
09/24/09 17:50:18 CELEBRATED WITH
09/24/09 17:50:19 HIM.
09/24/09 17:50:21 HE LOOKS ABOUT 60.
09/24/09 17:50:22 JUDGE ALTENBERND HAS BROUGHT TO
09/24/09 17:50:25 US HI REGULAR BOY SCOTT TROOP
09/24/09 17:50:26 45, CHRIST THE KING.
09/24/09 17:50:27 JUDGE, WANT TO INTRODUCE YOUR
09/24/09 17:50:28 GUYS AND TELL US WHAT YOU'RE
09/24/09 17:50:29 DOING HERE.
09/24/09 17:50:31 >> THESE GUYS, FIVE BOYS HERE
09/24/09 17:50:32 THIS EVENING.
09/24/09 17:50:35 WE HAVE PHILLIP SKATER,
09/24/09 17:50:37 AND
09/24/09 17:50:39 DAVID CALLAHAN, AND CHRIS
09/24/09 17:50:42 SUTTON, AND
09/24/09 17:50:45 LAST BUT NOT LEAST
09/24/09 17:50:46 YOU'RE HERE FOR COMMUNICATIONS,
09/24/09 17:50:49 CAN YOU TELL US YOUR NAME.
09/24/09 17:50:52 >>
09/24/09 17:50:53 KYLE.
09/24/09 17:50:54 >> AND THEY'RE WORKING IN
09/24/09 17:50:54 COMMUNITY.
09/24/09 17:50:56 AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THEY
09/24/09 17:50:58 NEED TO DO IS TO ATTEND A LOCAL
09/24/09 17:50:59 COMMUNITY MEETING AND THIS IS
09/24/09 17:51:00 THE MEETING THEY SELECTED TO
09/24/09 17:51:00 ATTEND.
09/24/09 17:51:02 SO WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THIS
09/24/09 17:51:04 MEETING AND BY THE WAY, IN ABOUT
09/24/09 17:51:07 TWO WEEKS WE CAN TAKE A
09/24/09 17:51:07 HIKE, WE
09/24/09 17:51:09 START IN YBOR CITY AND HIKE
09/24/09 17:51:12 THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN AND OVER
09/24/09 17:51:14 TO
09/24/09 17:51:16 UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AND AROUND.
09/24/09 17:51:19 THIS TIME WHEN WE GO BY THE
09/24/09 17:51:21 THEATRE I CAN ASK THEM WHO OWNS
09/24/09 17:51:22 THE SIGN OUT FRONT AND THEY CAN
09/24/09 17:51:24 ANSWER THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE
09/24/09 17:51:25 HERE THIS EVENING.
09/24/09 17:51:26 THANK YOU FOR HAVING PUBLIC
09/24/09 17:51:28 MEETING SO WE CAN COME TO THIS.
09/24/09 17:51:31 >> GOOD LOOK TON YOUR QUEST FOR
09/24/09 17:51:31 EAGLE, GENTLEMEN.
09/24/09 17:51:32 >> THANK YOU.
09/24/09 17:51:37 .
09/24/09 17:51:38 >>> MOVE TO ITEM 6, BEFORE WE DO
09/24/09 17:51:40 THAT I'VE BEEN INFORMED THAT WE
09/24/09 17:51:43 NEED TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
09/24/09 17:51:45 >> IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
09/24/09 17:51:47 IT IS A STAFF REPORT.
09/24/09 17:51:49 IT IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.
09/24/09 17:51:50 AND FOR THAT REASON IF THERE'S
09/24/09 17:51:52 ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO IT
09/24/09 17:51:53 THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY DO IT
09/24/09 17:51:55 BEFORE THE REPORT.
09/24/09 17:51:56 >> ANYONE WISH TO ADDRESS ITEM 6
09/24/09 17:51:59 YOU MAY COME FORWARD AT
09/24/09 17:52:00 THIS
09/24/09 17:52:00 TIME.
09/24/09 17:52:01 YES, YOU MAY COME FORWARD.
09/24/09 17:52:04 WANT TO TALK TO COUNCIL, YOU MAY
09/24/09 17:52:05 COME FORWARD.
09/24/09 17:52:06 >> OKAY.
09/24/09 17:52:07 I'VE MADE COPIES.
09/24/09 17:52:08 >> MA'AM, FIRST OFF, JUST HAND
09/24/09 17:52:11 IT TO HIM AND SPEAK ON THE
09/24/09 17:52:11 RECORD.
09/24/09 17:52:14 SPEAK INTO
09/24/09 17:52:16 THE MIKE.
09/24/09 17:52:17 STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
09/24/09 17:52:20 >> MY NAME
09/24/09 17:52:23 IS SELENA PATTERSON
09/24/09 17:52:29 AND I RESIDE IN
09/24/09 17:52:29 MALLBURY.
09/24/09 17:52:31 THE FIRST THING WE'D LIKE TO DO
09/24/09 17:52:33 THIS EVENING IS THANK YOU THE
09/24/09 17:52:36 COUNCIL FOR ALL THEIR EFFORTS
09/24/09 17:52:36 IN
09/24/09 17:52:37 ATTEMPTING TO RESOLVE THE
09/24/09 17:52:39 DILEMMA FOR THE CHANGE OF THIS
09/24/09 17:52:39 AREA QUESTIONED TONIGHT.
09/24/09 17:52:41 THE FIRST THING WE WANT TO BRING
09/24/09 17:52:44 UP IS THAT THE STUDY IS
09/24/09 17:52:45 INCORRECT AND NOT WHAT THE
09/24/09 17:52:46 COUNCIL REQUESTED.
09/24/09 17:52:48 IF YOU LOOK AT EXHIBIT 1, I'VE
09/24/09 17:52:50 HIGHLIGHT ADD COPY OF THE
09/24/09 17:52:50 MOTION.
09/24/09 17:52:52 HOWEVER, IF YOU ARE GOING TO
09/24/09 17:52:53 ACCEPT THIS STUDY WE ASK THAT
09/24/09 17:52:55 YOU NOT REAL ON HER STUDY
09/24/09 17:52:58 TONIGHT AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
09/24/09 17:53:00 THIS IS SOLELY HER
09/24/09 17:53:02 RECOMMENDATIONS, THIS HAS NOT
09/24/09 17:53:04 BEEN RULED OUT BY THE
09/24/09 17:53:05 HILLSBOROUGH COUNT COMMISSION.
09/24/09 17:53:07 A PUBLIC HEARING WAS SCHEDULE ON
09/24/09 17:53:08 MONDAY, AUGUST 10th.
09/24/09 17:53:11 LETTERS WERE MAILED OUT TO ALL
09/24/09 17:53:11 RESIDENTS INVOLVED WHICH
09/24/09 17:53:13 ACCORDING TO HER STUDY WHICH IS
09/24/09 17:53:16 OVER 3,000 PEOPLE NOT CALLING
09/24/09 17:53:17 IT
09/24/09 17:53:18 HOME, NOT INCLUDING BUSINESSES.
09/24/09 17:53:19 THE AMENDMENT WAS ARE DRAWN AND
09/24/09 17:53:22 LETTERS HAD TO BE SENT OUT TO
09/24/09 17:53:24 ALL THE RESIDENTS, NOTIFYING
09/24/09 17:53:24 THEM OF THE WITHDRAWAL.
09/24/09 17:53:26 I E-MAILED HER AND ASKED HER WHY
09/24/09 17:53:27 THIS OCCURRED AND HER RESPONSE
09/24/09 17:53:29 WAS THAT SHE HAD NOT BROUGHT IT
09/24/09 17:53:32 AND HAD GOT NEGLECTED TO BRING
09/24/09 17:53:34 IT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL PRIOR
09/24/09 17:53:36 BEFORE TAKING IT BEFORE
09/24/09 17:53:36 HILLSBOROUGH COUNCIL.
09/24/09 17:53:39 NOW, ONCE AGAIN, LETTERS HAD TO
09/24/09 17:53:40 BE SENT OUT TO ALL RESIDENTS
09/24/09 17:53:43 TALKING ABOUT THE DISMISSAL
09/24/09 17:53:45 OF
09/24/09 17:53:45 THEIR AMENDMENT.
09/24/09 17:53:48 I'M NOT A MATHEMATICIAN
09/24/09 17:53:49 BUT IT
09/24/09 17:53:52 COST OF THE TAXPAYERS
09/24/09 17:53:52 FOR THESE
09/24/09 17:53:55 ERRORS IS AN EXUBERANT COST TO
09/24/09 17:53:57 THE CITY ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING
09/24/09 17:53:58 HOW UNDERFUNDED THE PLANNING
09/24/09 17:53:59 COMMISSION'S BUDGET IS AT THIS
09/24/09 17:53:59 TIME.
09/24/09 17:54:01 WE ASK THAT YOU GO OUT AND TAKE
09/24/09 17:54:03 A LOOK AT AIR YEAH.
09/24/09 17:54:04 YOU KNOW HER
09/24/09 17:54:05 STUDY IS NOT MAPPED CORRECTLY.
09/24/09 17:54:08 EVEN AT THE EAST SIDE OF 50th
09/24/09 17:54:11 STREET OF HER STUDY AREA IT'S
09/24/09 17:54:12 PRO DOMINANTLY A MIXED USE-35.
09/24/09 17:54:15 THE FEW HOMES IN THE
09/24/09 17:54:16 AREA ARE
09/24/09 17:54:18 COMPLETED SURROUNDED BY MIXED
09/24/09 17:54:21 USE-35 AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL
09/24/09 17:54:22 USES.
09/24/09 17:54:25 IF THE STUDY IS
09/24/09 17:54:27 CORRECT, AND
09/24/09 17:54:27 ANOTHER STUDY WAS FOUND
09/24/09 17:54:28 CONSISTENT WITH THE
09/24/09 17:54:30 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MUST BE WRONG
09/24/09 17:54:31 BECAUSE IT COMPLETELY
09/24/09 17:54:32 CONTRADICTS THIS STUDY.
09/24/09 17:54:33 WHO IS RIGHT?
09/24/09 17:54:35 WE'D LIKE TO ASK THAT YOU AT
09/24/09 17:54:38 LEAST APPROVE THE AREA WEST OF
09/24/09 17:54:40 50th AND 10th AVENUE FOR
09/24/09 17:54:42 SEMI-MIXED USE-35 AT THIS TIME.
09/24/09 17:54:43 AS SAID BEFORE, THE PLANNING
09/24/09 17:54:45 COMMISSION IS UNDERFUNDED, THE
09/24/09 17:54:48 DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
09/24/09 17:54:50 WILL COME BACK ASKING FOR
09/24/09 17:54:51 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGE TO
09/24/09 17:54:52 ENABLE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF
09/24/09 17:54:53 THE PROPERTY AND WE BELIEVE IT'S
09/24/09 17:54:54 IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THIS
09/24/09 17:54:56 COUNCIL AND TO THE TAXPAYERS TO
09/24/09 17:54:58 GO FORWARD WITH THE MIXED USE
09/24/09 17:54:58 CHANGE.
09/24/09 17:55:04 THE MOTION READS,
09/24/09 17:55:05 TO
09/24/09 17:55:06 INCLUDE THE AREA OF PROPERTY
09/24/09 17:55:08 OWNED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD AS
09/24/09 17:55:11 WELL AS THE REST OF THE
09/24/09 17:55:12 RESIDENTIAL PARTY TO THE WEST
09/24/09 17:55:15 PARK
09/24/09 17:55:18 OF THE
09/24/09 17:55:20 NEXT PLAN AMENDMENT
09/24/09 17:55:20 CYCLE.
09/24/09 17:55:21 MISS SULFEEN REQUESTED THAT IT
09/24/09 17:55:23 WOULD BE TO THE WEST, THAT
09/24/09 17:55:25 INCLUDED THE ENTIRE BROWN AREA
09/24/09 17:55:25 OF THE MAP.
09/24/09 17:55:28 HOW
09/24/09 17:55:31 THE AREA WAS
09/24/09 17:55:32 SO BADLY
09/24/09 17:55:35 MISCONSTRUED IS
09/24/09 17:55:37 A MYSTERY.
09/24/09 17:55:40 THE QUESTION WAS 35 ACRES
09/24/09 17:55:42 .
09/24/09 17:55:44 THIS STUDY IS FOR 250 ACRES.
09/24/09 17:55:46 IF YOU GO TO HER ITEM 2,
09/24/09 17:55:48 QUESTION #2SHGS DOES THE AIR
09/24/09 17:55:51 PROVIDE A PLACE --I GUESS
09/24/09 17:55:54 I'M
09/24/09 17:55:55 OUT OF TIME.
09/24/09 17:55:55 >> YES.
09/24/09 17:55:55 NEXT SPEAKER.
09/24/09 17:55:57 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WONDERED
09/24/09 17:56:00 IF FOLKS KNOW THAT IF THEY
09/24/09 17:56:02 WANTED TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO
09/24/09 17:56:04 THIS WOMAN, THAT THEY SIGN A
09/24/09 17:56:07 FORM AND SHE GETS AN ADDITIONAL
09/24/09 17:56:07 MINUTE.
09/24/09 17:56:09 >> THERE'S A LOT TO COVER SO I'M
09/24/09 17:56:10 GOING TO LET THEM READ FOR ME.
09/24/09 17:56:13 >> IT'S NOT A PUBLIC
09/24/09 17:56:14 HEARING.
09/24/09 17:56:17 THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE
09/24/09 17:56:18 HAVE,
09/24/09 17:56:18 HERE.
09/24/09 17:56:19 SO.
09/24/09 17:56:19 [SEVERAL SPEAKERS AT ONCE].
09/24/09 17:56:22 >> MY NAME IS TRACY PIERCE, I
09/24/09 17:56:25 LIVE
09/24/09 17:56:27 AT 3706 EAST 10th AVENUE.
09/24/09 17:56:28 --4706 EAST 10th AVENUE.
09/24/09 17:56:30 I HOPE YOU GUYS RESEARCH IT
09/24/09 17:56:32 BEFORE YOU GO THROUGH WITH THIS.
09/24/09 17:56:34 BUT AS WAS STATED BEFORE,
09/24/09 17:56:35 MR. DINGFELDER SAID THE PLANNING
09/24/09 17:56:38 COMMISSION HAD DROPPED
09/24/09 17:56:39 THE BALL
09/24/09 17:56:42 ON THIS
09/24/09 17:56:42 BEFORE.
09/24/09 17:56:44 NOW, MISS OGILVY DIDN'T PICK THE
09/24/09 17:56:44 BAM UP.
09/24/09 17:56:46 IF I DID A JOB LIKE THIS I'D BE
09/24/09 17:56:47 FIRED.
09/24/09 17:56:49 IF SHE READ THE TRANSCRIPTS OF
09/24/09 17:56:52 THE MEETING OF WHICH YOU GUYS
09/24/09 17:56:52 REQUESTED, SHE COMPLETELY
09/24/09 17:56:54 DROPPED THE BALL, AND I HOPE
09/24/09 17:56:56 THAT SOMETHING IS DONE ABOUT
09/24/09 17:56:56 THIS TODAY.
09/24/09 17:56:58 WE NEED HELP, AND WE'RE GOING TO
09/24/09 17:57:00 BE BACK AGAIN AND WE'RE GOING TO
09/24/09 17:57:00 BE BACK AGAIN.
09/24/09 17:57:01 THE D.O.T.
09/24/09 17:57:03 IS GOING TO BE BACK
09/24/09 17:57:06 AGAIN BECAUSE THIS
09/24/09 17:57:07 WAS FOR AN
09/24/09 17:57:09 H-24 AND THEY SAID GIVE THEM
09/24/09 17:57:12 MIXED 35 AND INCLUDE THE REST OF
09/24/09 17:57:15 THE AREA FROM 50th STREET TO
09/24/09 17:57:16 THE
09/24/09 17:57:19 WEST IN THE BROWN AREA
09/24/09 17:57:20 ONLY.
09/24/09 17:57:21 AND BRING IT UP FOR PUBLIC
09/24/09 17:57:21 COMMENT.
09/24/09 17:57:23 WE WENT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
09/24/09 17:57:26 50th STREET, SHE PUT US IN
09/24/09 17:57:29 THE
09/24/09 17:57:30 OAK PARK ASSOCIATION BOUNDARIES.
09/24/09 17:57:31 WE DON'T HAVE ASSOCIATION ON THE
09/24/09 17:57:34 WEST SIDE OF 50th STREET.
09/24/09 17:57:35 IT'S TERRIBLE AREA.
09/24/09 17:57:36 VERIZON WENT THROUGH THERE THE
09/24/09 17:57:37 OTHER DAY AND CLOGGED ALL THE
09/24/09 17:57:39 DITCHES UP NOW THE WATER IS
09/24/09 17:57:40 COMPLETELY FILLED UP.
09/24/09 17:57:42 THE TRAILER PARK YOU'LL SEE IN
09/24/09 17:57:44 THERE HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN, IT'S
09/24/09 17:57:47 NOW, IT'S NOW NOTHING BUT A
09/24/09 17:57:47 CRACK HAVEN.
09/24/09 17:57:48 COPS THERE 24/7.
09/24/09 17:57:49 I LIVE RIGHT THERE ACROSS THE
09/24/09 17:57:51 STREET FROM IT AND IT'S JUST,
09/24/09 17:57:52 IT'S JUST BAD.
09/24/09 17:57:54 AND SO I REALLY AM UPSET ABOUT
09/24/09 17:57:56 THE STUDY, AND I HOPE THAT THE
09/24/09 17:57:59 TAXPAYERS SEE WHAT
09/24/09 17:58:01 A WASTE OF
09/24/09 17:58:04 MONEY THIS, THIS HAS
09/24/09 17:58:07 COST
09/24/09 17:58:09 US.
09/24/09 17:58:09 THANK YOU.
09/24/09 17:58:10 >> NEXT SPEAKER.
09/24/09 17:58:10 ANYONE ELSE?
09/24/09 17:58:15 .
09/24/09 17:58:18 >> MY NAME IS
09/24/09 17:58:20 HARRY PIERCE.
09/24/09 17:58:21 I LIVE 4842, EDMOND COURT,
09/24/09 17:58:21 DOVER, FLORIDA.
09/24/09 17:58:24 I OWN PROPERTY WITH MY BROTHER
09/24/09 17:58:27 AND MY SISTER ON
09/24/09 17:58:28 10th AVENUE.
09/24/09 17:58:29 THIS HAS COME BEFORE Y'ALL.
09/24/09 17:58:32 WE'RE TRYING TO GET A THING
09/24/09 17:58:33 FOR
09/24/09 17:58:36 PARKING RVs AND STUFF, I'M
09/24/09 17:58:36 SURE
09/24/09 17:58:37 Y'ALLS REMEMBER.
09/24/09 17:58:38 AND THESE STUDIES IS WRONG.
09/24/09 17:58:41 MY BROTHER AND SISTER, THEY'VE
09/24/09 17:58:42 SPENT MANY HOURS PUTTING THIS
09/24/09 17:58:42 TOGETHER.
09/24/09 17:58:43 THANK GOD FOR THEM BECAUSE I
09/24/09 17:58:46 DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME, AND
09/24/09 17:58:46 THEY
09/24/09 17:58:46 DID.
09/24/09 17:58:47 AND THEY RESEARCHED IT.
09/24/09 17:58:49 THE TRAFFIC, THEY EVEN GOT A
09/24/09 17:58:51 TRAFFIC STUDY THAT SHOWS THAT
09/24/09 17:58:53 THE TRAFFIC'S EVEN TOTALLY
09/24/09 17:58:53 WRONG.
09/24/09 17:58:56 THEY DID A STUDY THAT WAS
09/24/09 17:58:56 ACCURATE AND CORRECT.
09/24/09 17:58:58 IT TOOK THEM A LONG TIME TO DO
09/24/09 17:59:01 IT BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON
09/24/09 17:59:02 THIS AND WAITING A LONG TIME.
09/24/09 17:59:04 CITY COUNCIL HAS SAID AT ONE
09/24/09 17:59:07 TIME THAT WE WERE
09/24/09 17:59:08 DONE UNJUST.
09/24/09 17:59:10 THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE
09/24/09 17:59:11 THE OTHER DAY.
09/24/09 17:59:12 THIS THING IS WRONG AGAIN.
09/24/09 17:59:14 IT GOES ACROSS 50th STREET.
09/24/09 17:59:16 THAT'S NOT WHAT Y'ALL ASKED TO
09/24/09 17:59:16 BE DONE.
09/24/09 17:59:18 IT'S NOWHERE EVEN CLOSE WHAT
09/24/09 17:59:19 Y'ALL ASKED.
09/24/09 17:59:21 AND WE'RE THE ONES THAT'S BITING
09/24/09 17:59:21 THE BULLET BECAUSE WE'RE
09/24/09 17:59:24 WONDERING WHAT TO DO WITH THIS
09/24/09 17:59:24 PROPERTY.
09/24/09 17:59:26 IF I HAD PEOPLE DOING STUFF LIKE
09/24/09 17:59:27 THIS IN MY OFFICE, I HONESTLY
09/24/09 17:59:29 CAN SAY THAT I DON'T THINK
09/24/09 17:59:32 THEY'D BE IN MY OFFICE
09/24/09 17:59:32 ANY MORE.
09/24/09 17:59:34 'CAUSE IT'S NOT RIGHT, AND
09/24/09 17:59:35 TIMES ARE HARD.
09/24/09 17:59:37 AND I TAKE --IF I GOT PEOPLE
09/24/09 17:59:38 DOING THIS IN MY OFFICE RIGHT
09/24/09 17:59:41 NOW, I'M KEEPING WHAT I
09/24/09 17:59:42 GOT
09/24/09 17:59:42 BUSY.
09/24/09 17:59:44 AND I HAVEN'T GOT TIME FOR
09/24/09 17:59:45 MISTAKES.
09/24/09 17:59:45 IT'S COSTLY.
09/24/09 17:59:48 IT'S COSTLY TO THE CITY.
09/24/09 17:59:51 IT'S COSTLY TO THE COUNTY.
09/24/09 17:59:52 THIS IS NOT RIGHT.
09/24/09 17:59:54 EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THIS HASN'T
09/24/09 17:59:56 BEEN WRITE ALL ALONG.
09/24/09 17:59:56 THERE'S PICTURES IN THERE,
09/24/09 17:59:57 TIPPING ONE WAY FROM THERE AND
09/24/09 18:00:01 YOU TURN AROUND AND TAKE IT
09/24/09 18:00:02 THE
09/24/09 18:00:03 OTHER WAY, IT'S TOTALLY
09/24/09 18:00:03 OPPOSITE.
09/24/09 18:00:06 THERE'S BUILDINGS PUT
09/24/09 18:00:08 RIGHT
09/24/09 18:00:09 ACROSS THE STREET.
09/24/09 18:00:09 IT'S RIDICULOUS.
09/24/09 18:00:12 IT'S NOT EVEN FAIR, IT'S NOT
09/24/09 18:00:15 EVEN FAIR TO
09/24/09 18:00:16 ACCEPT THIS STUDY.
09/24/09 18:00:16 THANK YOU.
09/24/09 18:00:16 >> OKAY.
09/24/09 18:00:32 .
09/24/09 18:00:35 >> I'M ROBERT
09/24/09 18:00:38 YOUNG
09/24/09 18:00:39 AT LIVE AT
09/24/09 18:00:39 4706, 10th AVENUE.
09/24/09 18:00:55 .
09/24/09 18:00:58 >> WE WANT TO BRING THE
09/24/09 18:01:00 TRAFFIC
09/24/09 18:01:01 STUDY WHICH IS EXHIBIT NUMBER 8
09/24/09 18:01:03 AND OVER 80 VEHICLES CAME DOWN
09/24/09 18:01:06 THIS STREET IN ONE HOUR, AND THE
09/24/09 18:01:09 AVERAGE SPEED WAS 38
09/24/09 18:01:10 MILES PER
09/24/09 18:01:10 HOUR.
09/24/09 18:01:11 AND THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY
09/24/09 18:01:14 REPRESENT THE QUIET
09/24/09 18:01:15 RESIDENTIAL
09/24/09 18:01:17 STREET THAT IS DESCRIBED AS.
09/24/09 18:01:19 AND I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS
09/24/09 18:01:20 PROCEDURE SINCE ITS INITIATION
09/24/09 18:01:23 AND I LOOKED THROUGH THE STUDY
09/24/09 18:01:26 ALSO AND I THINK THE STUDY
09/24/09 18:01:28 EXPANDS ITSELF, I DON'T THINK
09/24/09 18:01:30 CONCENTRATED ON THE ISSUE THAT
09/24/09 18:01:32 WAS PRESENTED, AND IT HAS
09/24/09 18:01:35 DISTORTED THE WHOLE PICTURE OF
09/24/09 18:01:38 WHAT WAS BEING ASKED
09/24/09 18:01:38 FOR.
09/24/09 18:01:39 THANK YOU.
09/24/09 18:01:41 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
09/24/09 18:01:44 OKAY, WE ARE --CAN I HEAR
09/24/09 18:01:48 FROM
09/24/09 18:01:48 THE STAFF, THE PLANNING
09/24/09 18:01:48 COMMISSION?
09/24/09 18:01:54 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MICHELLE
09/24/09 18:01:56 OGILVY PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
09/24/09 18:01:57 AND P.O.
09/24/09 18:01:57 STAFF.
09/24/09 18:01:58 I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO THE
09/24/09 18:02:00 COUNCIL BECAUSE WE HAD A LITTLE
09/24/09 18:02:02 PROBLEM IN OUR OFFICE TODAY WITH
09/24/09 18:02:05 THE ELECTRICITY, SO I DON'T HAVE
09/24/09 18:02:07 A COPY OF THE REPORT PRINTED
09/24/09 18:02:07 OUT.
09/24/09 18:02:09 HOWEVER, LET ME GIVE IT TO YOU
09/24/09 18:02:11 FROM MY MEMORY AND, OF COURSE,
09/24/09 18:02:14 FROM
09/24/09 18:02:16 SOME MAPS THAT I DO HAVE.
09/24/09 18:02:22 WHEN THE
09/24/09 18:02:25 PLANNING COMMISSION
09/24/09 18:02:26 STAFF RECEIVED YOUR REQUEST, AND
09/24/09 18:02:29 WE DID START THE BEGINNING OF
09/24/09 18:02:32 THIS REPORT STUDY IN MARCH
09/24/09 18:02:33 OF
09/24/09 18:02:35 THIS YEAR, THE ENTIRE CITY'S
09/24/09 18:02:38 TEAM AS
09/24/09 18:02:41 IT WAS AT DID LOOK
09/24/09 18:02:41 AT
09/24/09 18:02:41 RECORD.
09/24/09 18:02:43 THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION
09/24/09 18:02:44 AT THE TIME.
09/24/09 18:02:46 YOU COULD TELL THAT COUNCIL WAS
09/24/09 18:02:48 STRUGGLING WITH THIS, AND IT WAS
09/24/09 18:02:50 OUR SENSE THAT YOU WANTED TO
09/24/09 18:02:52 TAKE A BIG PICTURE LOOK AT THE
09/24/09 18:02:55 AREA, WHICH I
09/24/09 18:02:58 WILL NOW PUT UP
09/24/09 18:03:00 ON
09/24/09 18:03:01 THE SCREEN FROM THE AERIAL.
09/24/09 18:03:04 AS COUNCIL
09/24/09 18:03:07 IS AWARE, YOU
09/24/09 18:03:09 DO HAVE
09/24/09 18:03:12 A NEW COMPREHENSIVE
09/24/09 18:03:14 PLAN THAT
09/24/09 18:03:15 DOES GIVE POLICY ON HOW TO
09/24/09 18:03:18 APPROACH GROWTH AND CHANGE IN
09/24/09 18:03:19 OUR CITY.
09/24/09 18:03:21 AS WE RED THE RECORD AGAIN WE
09/24/09 18:03:22 PICKED OUT THE WORDS BEYOND THE
09/24/09 18:03:25 MOTION WHICH IS THE STUDY YOU
09/24/09 18:03:26 ARE LOOKING FOR, FOUR CORNERS,
09/24/09 18:03:29 THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR
09/24/09 18:03:30 A
09/24/09 18:03:31 WHOLISTIC APPROACH.
09/24/09 18:03:33 THIS STUDY AREA THAT WE OUTLINED
09/24/09 18:03:34 HAD ACTUALLY BEEN STUDIED DURING
09/24/09 18:03:37 THE PLAN UPDATE, AND SO WE
09/24/09 18:03:39 DID
09/24/09 18:03:40 PULL FROM THAT PLAN UPDATE
09/24/09 18:03:43 INFORMATION WHICH WAS FED INTO
09/24/09 18:03:45 FROM MANY SOURCES, BUT THE AREA
09/24/09 18:03:48 IS GENERALLY, AS IT SAYS IN
09/24/09 18:03:49 THE
09/24/09 18:03:51 REPORT, WE DID REFER TO IT AS
09/24/09 18:03:53 GENERALLY OAK PARK, WE DID NOT
09/24/09 18:03:55 SAY OAK PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
09/24/09 18:03:58 IT'S A SMALLER AREA.
09/24/09 18:04:00 THE 3,000 PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN
09/24/09 18:04:02 THE CENSUS TRACK WHICH IS MUCH
09/24/09 18:04:05 LARGER GOES DOWN TO --I'M SORRY
09/24/09 18:04:06 TO ADAM OLD DRIVE.
09/24/09 18:04:07 ONE-THIRD OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE
09/24/09 18:04:10 IN THE CENSUS TRACK DO LIVE IN
09/24/09 18:04:12 THE STUDY AREA THAT WE LOOKED
09/24/09 18:04:12 AT.
09/24/09 18:04:15 AND THE REASON
09/24/09 18:04:18 WE LOOKED AT
09/24/09 18:04:19 IT
09/24/09 18:04:21 IS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO KNOW IF
09/24/09 18:04:22 THERE WAS A SENSE OF
09/24/09 18:04:24 NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE AREA.
09/24/09 18:04:27 AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS --THE
09/24/09 18:04:29 AERIAL, THE MAP THAT IS HERE,
09/24/09 18:04:32 THE BROWN AREA IS
09/24/09 18:04:34 LOW --IS LOW
09/24/09 18:04:35 MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
09/24/09 18:04:38 BOTH AREAS OF BOTH SIDES OF
09/24/09 18:04:39 50th
09/24/09 18:04:40 STREET HAVE VERY SIMILAR
09/24/09 18:04:40 CIRCUMSTANCES.
09/24/09 18:04:43 THEY HAVE 50th STREET OF COURSE
09/24/09 18:04:45 GOING RIGHT THROUGH.
09/24/09 18:04:46 THEY HAVE INDUSTRIAL USES
09/24/09 18:04:47 WRAPPING THEM.
09/24/09 18:04:48 AND WE DID WANT TO SEE IF THERE
09/24/09 18:04:50 WAS A SENSE THAT BOTH SIDES,
09/24/09 18:04:51 WHILE WE WERE LOOKING AT JUST
09/24/09 18:04:52 NOT THE WEST SIDE OF 50th
09/24/09 18:04:54 STREET, BUT ALSO THE EAST SIDE,
09/24/09 18:04:57 IF THERE WAS ANY
09/24/09 18:05:00 NEED TO HAVE
09/24/09 18:05:05 ANY RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE
09/24/09 18:05:05 AREA.
09/24/09 18:05:10 EXCUSE ME.
09/24/09 18:05:13 I THOUGHT I HAD MY ...
09/24/09 18:05:13 I'LL GO
09/24/09 18:05:16 TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND
09/24/09 18:05:19 THE VISION MAP
09/24/09 18:05:22 FOR THAT, FOR
09/24/09 18:05:22 THE
09/24/09 18:05:22 CENTRAL AREA.
09/24/09 18:05:25 WHICH
09/24/09 18:05:27 I CAN'T FIND AT THIS
09/24/09 18:05:28 MOMENT.
09/24/09 18:05:31 AS THE CITY COUNCIL IS AWARE
09/24/09 18:05:32 AND
09/24/09 18:05:34 IS OUTLINED IN YOUR REPORT, THE
09/24/09 18:05:36 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NOW ASKS US
09/24/09 18:05:39 TO LOOK AT AREAS IN TWO WAYS.
09/24/09 18:05:41 ONE IS THE VISION FOR THE GROWTH
09/24/09 18:05:43 MANAGEMENT STRATEGY, WHICH SAYS
09/24/09 18:05:45 THAT WE WANT TO ACCOMMODATE
09/24/09 18:05:47 CHANGE WITHIN OUR BUSINESS
09/24/09 18:05:50 CENTERS SUCH AS DOWNTOWN TAMPA,
09/24/09 18:05:51 UNIVERSITY, WEST SHORE, THE
09/24/09 18:05:54 URBAN VILLAGES SUCH AS EAST
09/24/09 18:05:56 TAMPA, AND WE WANT TO DO AS JAY
09/24/09 18:05:59 FINISHED TELLING YOU ABOUT,
09/24/09 18:06:02 BUSCH BOULEVARD AND THE MIXED
09/24/09 18:06:03 USE CORRIDOR VILLAGES.
09/24/09 18:06:06 I'M
09/24/09 18:06:08 STILL TRYING TO FIND THAT
09/24/09 18:06:08 MAP.
09/24/09 18:06:11 WHAT WE HAVE IN TERMS
09/24/09 18:06:13 OF THIS
09/24/09 18:06:14 REQUEST IS THAT THE
09/24/09 18:06:15 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS
09/24/09 18:06:18 DESIGNATED THE AREAS THAT YOU
09/24/09 18:06:21 SEE IN BROWN AS STABLE
09/24/09 18:06:23 AREAS,
09/24/09 18:06:25 RESIDENTIAL AREAS, AND THAT 50th
09/24/09 18:06:27 STREET AND COLUMBUS DRIVE ARE
09/24/09 18:06:28 THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE
09/24/09 18:06:30 DESIGNATED WHERE WE WANT TO HAVE
09/24/09 18:06:32 CHANGES, WHERE WE WANT NEW JOBS
09/24/09 18:06:33 AND HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES.
09/24/09 18:06:37 WE WILL TAKE THESE
09/24/09 18:06:37 OPPORTUNITIES
09/24/09 18:06:38 TO CREATE AND IMPROVE
09/24/09 18:06:41 PEDESTRIAN --AND THE PEDESTRIAN
09/24/09 18:06:41 ENVIRONMENT.
09/24/09 18:06:44 BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSATION THAT
09/24/09 18:06:46 WENT ON WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
09/24/09 18:06:48 CALLED THE BROWN AREA, WE WANTED
09/24/09 18:06:51 TO TEST IT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT
09/24/09 18:06:54 WAS, INDEED, AN AREA OF
09/24/09 18:06:54 STABILITY.
09/24/09 18:06:56 SO WE ASKED THE QUESTIONS
09/24/09 18:06:58 OUTLINED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE
09/24/09 18:07:00 PLAN, DOES THE AREA PROVIDE FOR
09/24/09 18:07:01 ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY,
09/24/09 18:07:04 UNDERSTANDING THAT YOUR
09/24/09 18:07:05 HOME IS
09/24/09 18:07:06 ALSO AN ECONOMIC PLACE.
09/24/09 18:07:08 THE SENSE OF PLACE AS IT EXISTS,
09/24/09 18:07:10 IS IT ATTRACTIVE, IS THERE
09/24/09 18:07:12 CHOICES OF MOBILITY, IS THERE A
09/24/09 18:07:15 FEELING OF SAFETY, IS THERE A
09/24/09 18:07:16 MIX OF USES.
09/24/09 18:07:18 IS THERE ATTENTION OF HEALTHY
09/24/09 18:07:19 OPEN SPACES.
09/24/09 18:07:21 AS HAS BEEN OUTLINED TO YOU IN
09/24/09 18:07:24 OUR REPORT, WE STAND BY THAT
09/24/09 18:07:24 REPORT.
09/24/09 18:07:27 WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS AREA
09/24/09 18:07:30 DOES, INDEED, MEET ALL THOSE
09/24/09 18:07:31 REQUIREMENTS WITH THE ECONOMIC
09/24/09 18:07:32 OPPORTUNITIES BEING ALONG THE
09/24/09 18:07:36 CORRIDORS AS HAS BEEN FOR
09/24/09 18:07:37 SOME
09/24/09 18:07:39 TIME BEEN THE CITY'S DESIGNATED
09/24/09 18:07:39 AREA.
09/24/09 18:07:40 NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S
09/24/09 18:07:43 VERY INTERESTING
09/24/09 18:07:45 TO US AS WE DID
09/24/09 18:07:48 ANALYSE THIS STUDY AREA, WAS
09/24/09 18:07:49 THE
09/24/09 18:07:51 FACT THAT THERE HAD BEEN TWO
09/24/09 18:07:53 AMENDMENTS BROUGHT TO THE CITY
09/24/09 18:07:55 COUNCIL IN THE 50th STREET
09/24/09 18:07:58 CORRIDOR, KIND OF, SORT OF,
09/24/09 18:08:01 IN
09/24/09 18:08:04 THE LAST FOUR
09/24/09 18:08:04 YEARS.
09/24/09 18:08:06 THE OVERHEAD SHOWS THE F.D.O.T.
09/24/09 18:08:09 SITE IN YELLOW, AND THE PIERCE'S
09/24/09 18:08:11 PROPERTY IN RED.
09/24/09 18:08:14 I'LL START WITH THE
09/24/09 18:08:16 RED PIECE.
09/24/09 18:08:18 IN 2007, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE
09/24/09 18:08:19 PLANNING COMMISSION REQUESTED A
09/24/09 18:08:21 KEEFE FROM THE PIERCES ASKING
09/24/09 18:08:24 THAT THEY GET A HEAVY
09/24/09 18:08:24 COMMERCIAL
09/24/09 18:08:25 24 PLAN DESIGNATION.
09/24/09 18:08:27 AFTER MUCH CONVERSATION, THE
09/24/09 18:08:29 PLANNING COMMISSION BROUGHT TO
09/24/09 18:08:32 YOU A REQUEST --A
09/24/09 18:08:34 RECOMMENDATION OF INCONSISTENCY
09/24/09 18:08:36 WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
09/24/09 18:08:37 BASED ON THE INCOMPATIBILITY
09/24/09 18:08:40 OF --EXCUSE ME --THAT
09/24/09 18:08:43 LAND USE
09/24/09 18:08:44 WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
09/24/09 18:08:47 THE
09/24/09 18:08:49 YELLOW STAR IS THE 2007
09/24/09 18:08:52 REQUEST BY THE F.D.O.T.
09/24/09 18:08:54 WHO HAD
09/24/09 18:08:57 ACQUIRED THE OLD OAKS PARK
09/24/09 18:08:58 SCHOOL, AND CURIOUSLY ENOUGH, IT
09/24/09 18:09:00 IS ON 50th STREET, WHICH IS
09/24/09 18:09:03 WHERE WE WANT TO SEE
09/24/09 18:09:05 CHANGE, AND
09/24/09 18:09:07 THE NEW COLUMBUS CORRIDOR, WHICH
09/24/09 18:09:10 HAS
09/24/09 18:09:11 BEEN DESIGNATED FOR MIXED
09/24/09 18:09:12 USE.
09/24/09 18:09:13 SO THE TWO CORNERS OF THAT SITE
09/24/09 18:09:16 OR THE TWO
09/24/09 18:09:18 FACES OF THAT SITE
09/24/09 18:09:21 ARE, INDEED,
09/24/09 18:09:24 IN CONSISTENT
09/24/09 18:09:27 FORM
09/24/09 18:09:29 WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
09/24/09 18:09:31 PLAN AND WHAT HAS BEEN ADOPTED
09/24/09 18:09:33 FOR THE LONG RANGE GROWTH
09/24/09 18:09:33 STRATEGY.
09/24/09 18:09:35 THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE ROADWAYS
09/24/09 18:09:38 AND OVER TIME, 50th STREET
09/24/09 18:09:38 AND
09/24/09 18:09:42 COLUMBUS DRIVE HAVE BEEN
09/24/09 18:09:47 IMPROVED WITH SIDEWALKS AND
09/24/09 18:09:49 BICYCLE/PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES, AS
09/24/09 18:09:52 EXPECTED AND ENVISIONED FOR THIS
09/24/09 18:09:54 AREA.
09/24/09 18:09:57 WE ARE
09/24/09 18:10:00 --WE DID DISCUSS AS
09/24/09 18:10:01 STAFF THE IDEA THAT THIS IS --
09/24/09 18:10:04 AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO BE, YOU
09/24/09 18:10:07 KNOW, BROUGHT --BRINGING BACK
09/24/09 18:10:10 TO COUNCIL THE IDEA
09/24/09 18:10:11 THAT PLAN
09/24/09 18:10:13 AMENDMENT 0601 WAS BEING
09/24/09 18:10:16 RECONSIDERED AGAIN, HAVING BEEN
09/24/09 18:10:18 DENIED BY THE CITY COUNCIL BACK
09/24/09 18:10:19 IN 2007.
09/24/09 18:10:21 WE WANTED TO TAKE A HOLISTIC
09/24/09 18:10:24 APPROACH TO THE AREA AND SAY,
09/24/09 18:10:25 WE
09/24/09 18:10:27 DID TAKE A LOOK AT THE CONTEXT
09/24/09 18:10:30 OF THE AREA AND THERE HAVE BEEN
09/24/09 18:10:33 MANY CHANGES
09/24/09 18:10:35 TO THIS AREA SINCE
09/24/09 18:10:35 2007.
09/24/09 18:10:38 COLUMBUS DRIVE AND ITS ANY
09/24/09 18:10:39 ALIGNMENT IS NEW.
09/24/09 18:10:41 50th STREET HAS BEEN RESTRIPED
09/24/09 18:10:42 AND BROUGHT INTO A NEW PLACE.
09/24/09 18:10:44 AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE HAVE
09/24/09 18:10:47 BEEN CHANGES IN TERMS OF WHO
09/24/09 18:10:49 LIVES IN THAT AREA, AS WELL.
09/24/09 18:10:51 BUT THE CENSUS IS OLD, SO WE
09/24/09 18:10:54 COULDN'T REALLY GET THAT IN ANY
09/24/09 18:10:54 ORDER.
09/24/09 18:10:57 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I
09/24/09 18:10:57 COULD
09/24/09 18:10:59 NOT PRINT THIS MORNING AS WE
09/24/09 18:11:02 LOST POWER IN THE COUNTY CENTER
09/24/09 18:11:05 BUILDING WAS THE
09/24/09 18:11:06 PICTURE THAT IS
09/24/09 18:11:08 IN YOUR REPORT ON THE CHANGE
09/24/09 18:11:10 THAT TOOK PLACE ACROSS THE
09/24/09 18:11:12 STREET FROM THE PIERCES.
09/24/09 18:11:15 IT WAS A REZONING I BELIEVE IN
09/24/09 18:11:18 2006
09/24/09 18:11:19 THAT CHANGED A VERY
09/24/09 18:11:21 EXPANSIVE AREA, THEIR FRONT DOOR
09/24/09 18:11:23 AS IT WERE LOOKED INTO ANOTHER
09/24/09 18:11:24 NEIGHBOR'S HOME, AND BECAUSE
09/24/09 18:11:27 THAT AREA TO THE
09/24/09 18:11:30 SOUTH IS
09/24/09 18:11:33 PLANNED FOR COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY,
09/24/09 18:11:34 THAT CHANGED THE LANDSCAPE
09/24/09 18:11:34 TREMENDOUSLY.
09/24/09 18:11:37 AS I WOULD --AS WE HAD
09/24/09 18:11:39 DISCUSSION, WE DID BELIEVE THAT,
09/24/09 18:11:42 YOU KNOW, PERHAPS LOOKING BACK,
09/24/09 18:11:45 IT WAS NOT PRUDENT OF US
09/24/09 18:11:46 TO HAVE
09/24/09 18:11:49 BEEN SO CAVALIER IN SAYING C.I.
09/24/09 18:11:51 WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE
09/24/09 18:11:54 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IT
09/24/09 18:11:54 IS,
09/24/09 18:11:57 BUT IN HINDSIGHT, YOU KNOW.
09/24/09 18:11:58 THERE ARE MANY POLICIES IN
09/24/09 18:11:59 TODAY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT
09/24/09 18:12:02 REALLY DO ALLOW YOU TO HAVE SOME
09/24/09 18:12:05 PAUSE, AND WHEN YOU ARE
09/24/09 18:12:07 LOOKING
09/24/09 18:12:10 AT REZONING IN THE FUTURE
09/24/09 18:12:10 OR AT
09/24/09 18:12:10 THIS TIME.
09/24/09 18:12:13 BUT WE --AND WE DID RECOMMEND
09/24/09 18:12:16 TO COUNCIL THAT THE OPPORTUNITY
09/24/09 18:12:19 FOR SUCH CHANGES TO LOOK AT
09/24/09 18:12:20 HOW
09/24/09 18:12:21 CODE RELATES ON LOCAL STREETS
09/24/09 18:12:23 NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT VERY
09/24/09 18:12:26 CAREFULLY IN THE NEXT 18 MONTHS
09/24/09 18:12:29 AS THE
09/24/09 18:12:32 CITY UPDATES ITS
09/24/09 18:12:33 CODE.
09/24/09 18:12:36 BUT THE OVERALL QUESTION OF
09/24/09 18:12:37 IS
09/24/09 18:12:40 IT APPROPRIATE
09/24/09 18:12:41 TO CHANGE ALL THE
09/24/09 18:12:43 BROWN TO A CATEGORY THAT WOULD
09/24/09 18:12:46 ALLOW COMMERCIAL, WE DO NOT
09/24/09 18:12:49 BELIEVE IS APPROPRIATE
09/24/09 18:12:50 AT THIS
09/24/09 18:12:50 TIME.
09/24/09 18:12:53 AGAIN, YOU HAVE MANY DIFFERENT
09/24/09 18:12:55 THINGS TO BALANCE, BUT IF YOU
09/24/09 18:12:55 WILL RECALL IN THE LAST SIX
09/24/09 18:12:58 YEARS AS WE WENT THROUGH THE
09/24/09 18:13:01 PLANNING --THE UPDATE OF THE
09/24/09 18:13:02 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE MADE SOME
09/24/09 18:13:04 STRONG STATEMENTS IN THIS ROOM
09/24/09 18:13:05 AND ELSEWHERE TO OUR
09/24/09 18:13:07 NEIGHBORHOODS THAT CHANGE WOULD
09/24/09 18:13:09 TAKE PLACE IN THEIR PLACES AS
09/24/09 18:13:12 IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR IT TO
09/24/09 18:13:12 HAPPEN.
09/24/09 18:13:13 WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTRE
09/24/09 18:13:16 TO SUPPORT CHANGE IN
09/24/09 18:13:17 THIS AREA.
09/24/09 18:13:20 WE DO HAVE INFRASTRUCTRE
09/24/09 18:13:22 PROGRAMMED IN THE EAST TAMPA
09/24/09 18:13:22 C.R.A.
09/24/09 18:13:24 OR URBAN VILLAGE, AND
09/24/09 18:13:25 EVERY TIME THAT A CHANGE TAKES
09/24/09 18:13:28 PLACE WITHIN THIS AREA, WE HAVE
09/24/09 18:13:31 TO THINK ABOUT THE BALANCE.
09/24/09 18:13:32 ARE WE BALANCING AND SAYING --
09/24/09 18:13:34 DOING WHAT WE SAY WE WANT TO SEE
09/24/09 18:13:37 HAPPEN IN OUR CITY, BIG PICTURE,
09/24/09 18:13:40 OR DO WE WANT TO
09/24/09 18:13:40 CONDUCT
09/24/09 18:13:43 BUSINESS IN ANOTHER WAY?
09/24/09 18:13:44 I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION OF
09/24/09 18:13:47 THE FAMILY THAT HAS COME
09/24/09 18:13:48 BEFORE
09/24/09 18:13:48 YOU.
09/24/09 18:13:49 THEY HAVE TRIED OVER THE YEARS
09/24/09 18:13:52 TO HAVE CHANGE
09/24/09 18:13:54 TAKE PLACE ON
09/24/09 18:13:54 THEIR PROPERTY.
09/24/09 18:13:56 THEY ARE SOME 1500 FEET, I
09/24/09 18:13:59 BELIEVE, TO THE WEST OF THE
09/24/09 18:14:02 CENTER LINE OF 50th STREET.
09/24/09 18:14:04 IT IS NOT THE PRACTICE OF THE,
09/24/09 18:14:07 OF THE CITY OR THE DIRECTION
09/24/09 18:14:08 OF
09/24/09 18:14:11 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT
09/24/09 18:14:14 THESE CHANGES TAKE PLACE FROM
09/24/09 18:14:16 RESIDENTIAL TO NONRESIDENTIAL
09/24/09 18:14:18 PLAN CATEGORY POTENTIAL WITHOUT
09/24/09 18:14:19 SOME OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES, WHICH
09/24/09 18:14:22 WE COULD NOT FIND AS WE STUDIED
09/24/09 18:14:23 THIS AREA.
09/24/09 18:14:26 THIS IS WHY WE
09/24/09 18:14:29 DID BRING TO YOU
09/24/09 18:14:29 THE STUDY.
09/24/09 18:14:32 IT WAS A MUCH BROADER
09/24/09 18:14:34 CONVERSATION TOOK PLACE IN THE
09/24/09 18:14:35 PLANNING COMMISSION AS WE WENT
09/24/09 18:14:38 TO --WE DID CALL IT
09/24/09 18:14:39 A PLAN
09/24/09 18:14:41 AMENDMENT AT ONE TIME; HOWEVER,
09/24/09 18:14:44 AS WE CONCLUDED OUR STUDY, IT
09/24/09 18:14:45 WAS THOUGHT THAT PERHAPS WE
09/24/09 18:14:47 NEEDED TO DO THIS, BRING IT,
09/24/09 18:14:49 BECAUSE IT A LOT CHEAPER THAN
09/24/09 18:14:51 RUNNING THE AD, WHICH IS ON THE
09/24/09 18:14:54 PUBLIC DIME, BY THE
09/24/09 18:14:56 WAY, FOR
09/24/09 18:14:59 THIS STUDY, VERSUS HAVING IT BE
09/24/09 18:15:02 PAID FOR BY A
09/24/09 18:15:04 PRIVATE
09/24/09 18:15:04 PETITIONER.
09/24/09 18:15:05 IT WAS THE DECISION OF THOSE
09/24/09 18:15:07 AMONG US ALL, WE ALL CAME
09/24/09 18:15:09 TOGETHER AND DECIDED, THAT IT
09/24/09 18:15:10 WOULD BE MORE PRUDENT FOR US TO
09/24/09 18:15:13 BRING IT BACK TO YOU AS A STUDY.
09/24/09 18:15:16 AND IF YOU WISH TO
09/24/09 18:15:16 CONTINUE
09/24/09 18:15:18 HAVING HEARD THE PROS AND CONS
09/24/09 18:15:21 OF THIS DISCUSSION, IF
09/24/09 18:15:23 YOU DID
09/24/09 18:15:24 NEED A PLAN AMENDMENT CHANGE, SO
09/24/09 18:15:26 BE IT, AND WE KNEW THAT THE
09/24/09 18:15:29 PUBLIC WOULD BE PAYING
09/24/09 18:15:30 FOR THIS
09/24/09 18:15:30 AMENDMENT.
09/24/09 18:15:31 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
09/24/09 18:15:34 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME,
09/24/09 18:15:36 CITY
09/24/09 18:15:36 COUNCIL.
09/24/09 18:15:37 >> THANK YOU.
09/24/09 18:15:37 ANY QUESTIONS?
09/24/09 18:15:39 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.
09/24/09 18:15:42 >> Mr. Dingfelder: THANK YOU,
09/24/09 18:15:42 MICHELLE.
09/24/09 18:15:45 FIRST I WANT TO SPEAK IN
09/24/09 18:15:45 YOUR
09/24/09 18:15:46 DEFENSE GENERALLY, AND I KNOW
09/24/09 18:15:48 ALL OF US THAT WORK WITH
09/24/09 18:15:51 MICHELLE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS
09/24/09 18:15:53 AND SHE'S GREAT PROFESSIONAL AND
09/24/09 18:15:56 A GOOD PLANNER AND
09/24/09 18:15:57 A GOOD
09/24/09 18:15:58 GOVERNMENT PUBLIC SERVANT.
09/24/09 18:16:01 AND SO I WANT
09/24/09 18:16:01 TO SAY THAT VERY
09/24/09 18:16:04 STRONGLY TO THE FOLKS WHO SORT
09/24/09 18:16:06 OF ATTACKED HER PERSONALLY.
09/24/09 18:16:08 I DON'T THINK THAT WAS DESERVED
09/24/09 18:16:11 OR IT WASN'T WELL TAKEN UP HERE.
09/24/09 18:16:14 WITH THAT SAID, I DID LOOK BACK
09/24/09 18:16:16 IN THE TRANSCRIPT THAT WAS
09/24/09 18:16:18 PROVIDED, AND I'M GOING TO TAKE
09/24/09 18:16:21 SOME BLAME FOR THIS BECAUSE AS I
09/24/09 18:16:22 READ MY OWN WORDS, WHICH IS
09/24/09 18:16:25 NEVER A
09/24/09 18:16:27 LOT OF FUN IN THE
09/24/09 18:16:29 TRANSCRIPT, I SEE WHAT HAPPENED
09/24/09 18:16:32 IS I STARTED OUT BY --MY
09/24/09 18:16:32 MOTION
09/24/09 18:16:34 OR MY CONVERSATION WITH TONY --
09/24/09 18:16:37 IS TONY
09/24/09 18:16:39 HERE?
09/24/09 18:16:40 WITH TONY THAT EVENING BY
09/24/09 18:16:43 SAYING,
09/24/09 18:16:46 I'M AT 18:12-17, AND I
09/24/09 18:16:49 SAID MY QUESTION, TONY
09/24/09 18:16:50 --WHAT
09/24/09 18:16:51 PAGE ARE YOU ON?
09/24/09 18:16:52 >> Mr. Dingfelder: WELL IF YOU
09/24/09 18:16:56 HAVE
09/24/09 18:16:57 THE TRANSCRIPT, THE NUMBER
09/24/09 18:16:57 IS 18:12:17.
09/24/09 18:17:00 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE
09/24/09 18:17:00 TRANSCRIPT.
09/24/09 18:17:03 AND I SAID MY QUESTION IS, TONY,
09/24/09 18:17:06 I SAID I KNOW
09/24/09 18:17:07 WE HAD CITY
09/24/09 18:17:08 COUNCIL INITIATED REZONINGS.
09/24/09 18:17:10 WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE SEVERAL
09/24/09 18:17:10 YEARS AGO.
09/24/09 18:17:13 AIM WONDERING, DO WE HAVE CITY
09/24/09 18:17:14 COUNCIL INITIATED PLAN
09/24/09 18:17:15 AMENDMENTS.
09/24/09 18:17:17 AND TONY, WHO HAS NOW WALKED IN
09/24/09 18:17:19 SAID YES, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO
09/24/09 18:17:20 INITIATE A PLAN AMENDMENT
09/24/09 18:17:20 REQUEST.
09/24/09 18:17:23 AND I SAID AND THEN THAT WAY
09/24/09 18:17:24 NOBODY PAYS A FEE.
09/24/09 18:17:25 BECAUSE WHAT I'M THINKING IS, A,
09/24/09 18:17:28 THERE'S NO YOU ARE JEBSY ON THE
09/24/09 18:17:29 PART OF THE SCHOOL BOARD, BLAH,
09/24/09 18:17:30 BLAH, BLAH.
09/24/09 18:17:33 THEN WE
09/24/09 18:17:35 WENT ON IN THIS
09/24/09 18:17:36 DISCUSSION, 18:14 CONDITION 09,
09/24/09 18:17:39 AND I LIKE THIS PART, SHE
09/24/09 18:17:41 SAID
09/24/09 18:17:42 MR. DINGFELDER I THINK YOU'RE
09/24/09 18:17:42 RIGHT.
09/24/09 18:17:43 [ LAUGHTER ].
09/24/09 18:17:44 >> Mr. Dingfelder: SHE SAID,
09/24/09 18:17:45 YOU'RE RIGHT IN REVISITING THE
09/24/09 18:17:46 LOTS RESIDENTIALLY BUT I DON'T
09/24/09 18:17:48 THINK IT'S FAIR TO HOLD UP THIS
09/24/09 18:17:49 PETITIONER, THAT WAS THE SCHOOL
09/24/09 18:17:50 BOARD THAT EVENING.
09/24/09 18:17:53 SO I CONCUR WITH
09/24/09 18:17:56 GOING
09/24/09 18:17:57 AHEAD
09/24/09 18:17:58 TONIGHT AND CONSIDERING CMU
09/24/09 18:18:01 356789 I
09/24/09 18:18:02 35.
09/24/09 18:18:04 I THINK AT THAT POINT IT WAS
09/24/09 18:18:07 CLEAR THAT TWO OF US WERE ALONG
09/24/09 18:18:09 THE LINES OF A PLAN AMENDMENT.
09/24/09 18:18:11 THEN MISS MULHERN ASKED A
09/24/09 18:18:13 QUESTION AND WE GOT SIDETRACKED
09/24/09 18:18:16 AND THE MOTION ITSELF, WHICH
09/24/09 18:18:19 IS
09/24/09 18:18:22 UP NOW ON PAGE 18:22:42,
09/24/09 18:18:23 SAYS,
09/24/09 18:18:25 MULHERN SAID SOMETHING, I SAID,
09/24/09 18:18:27 OH, SHE RECOGNISED, AND THEN I
09/24/09 18:18:29 SAID THANK YOU.
09/24/09 18:18:30 WITHOUT BELABORING THIS I WOULD
09/24/09 18:18:33 LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT
09/24/09 18:18:35 STAFF TO DO A CITY INITIATED
09/24/09 18:18:36 STUDY AND PLAN AMENDMENT
09/24/09 18:18:39 DEPENDING ON HOW THE STUDY COMES
09/24/09 18:18:40 OUT FOR THOSE THREE QUADRANTS,
09/24/09 18:18:42 THE SCHOOL BOARD PROPERTY AS
09/24/09 18:18:44 WELL AS THE REST OF THE
09/24/09 18:18:45 RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO THE
09/24/09 18:18:45 WEST.
09/24/09 18:18:48 AND THEN I THINK
09/24/09 18:18:49 THAT
09/24/09 18:18:50 MOTION MUST HAVE CARRIED.
09/24/09 18:18:52 I DO SEE WHERE THERE WAS A
09/24/09 18:18:53 LITTLE MORE CONFUSION THEN AS
09/24/09 18:18:55 OPPOSED TO JUST DOING THE PLAN
09/24/09 18:18:58 AMENDMENT, AND I SEE HOW YOU GOT
09/24/09 18:18:59 INTO DOING THE STUDY.
09/24/09 18:19:01 THE STUDY DID SEEM TO GET BIGGER
09/24/09 18:19:03 THAN WHAT I THINK THIS BODY
09/24/09 18:19:04 ANTICIPATED, WHICH WAS JUST THE
09/24/09 18:19:07 SCHOOL BOARD PROPERTY TO THE
09/24/09 18:19:07 WEST.
09/24/09 18:19:09 YOU GUYS ON YOUR OWN VOLITION
09/24/09 18:19:10 JUMPED OVER AND WENT TO THE EAST
09/24/09 18:19:13 AND FOR WHATEVER REASON.
09/24/09 18:19:15 SO I JUST WANTED TO READ THAT
09/24/09 18:19:16 JUST AS A LITTLE CLARIFICATION
09/24/09 18:19:17 BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY --I DON'T
09/24/09 18:19:19 KNOW WHAT THAT DATE WAS BUT IT'S
09/24/09 18:19:22 HARD FOR US TO REMEMBER WHAT
09/24/09 18:19:24 WE
09/24/09 18:19:27 DID YESTERDAY, NONETHELESS
09/24/09 18:19:28 A
09/24/09 18:19:28 WHILE BACK.
09/24/09 18:19:29 SO ...
09/24/09 18:19:29 WHAT WAS THAT.
09/24/09 18:19:30 APRIL OF '09.
09/24/09 18:19:36 WHERE DOES THAT
09/24/09 18:19:37 LEAVE US?
09/24/09 18:19:37 >> COUNCILWOMAN SAUL-SENA.
09/24/09 18:19:39 >> Ms. Saul-Sena: THANK YOU.
09/24/09 18:19:40 THE PURPOSE OF A STUDY LIKE THIS
09/24/09 18:19:43 IS TO TAKE A LOOK AT
09/24/09 18:19:44 WHAT'S
09/24/09 18:19:46 THERE, WHAT THE CHANGES ARE HAVE
09/24/09 18:19:49 BEEN, AND WHAT WE'VE PROJECTED
09/24/09 18:19:52 FOR
09/24/09 18:19:53 THE FUTURE WITH THE PREMISE
09/24/09 18:19:55 THAT YOU CAN PROTECT WHAT'S GOOD
09/24/09 18:19:58 AND HEALTHY OF WHAT'S THERE AND
09/24/09 18:20:01 TRY TO GET THE USES
09/24/09 18:20:02 THAT ARE NOT
09/24/09 18:20:05 WORKING TO SOMEHOW GET SOME MORE
09/24/09 18:20:07 JUICE, BE REVITALIZED AND
09/24/09 18:20:08 SOMETIMES WHAT IS REQUIRED IS
09/24/09 18:20:09 CLARIFYING, YOU KNOW, THE
09/24/09 18:20:11 COMMERCIAL STUFF WILL ALL BE
09/24/09 18:20:12 ORIENTED ON THE COMMERCIAL
09/24/09 18:20:13 CORRIDORS AND THE RESIDENTIAL
09/24/09 18:20:16 STUFF THAT'S IN THE
09/24/09 18:20:18 INTERIOR
09/24/09 18:20:19 WILL BE PROTECTED.
09/24/09 18:20:19 THAT'S SIMPLISTICALLY WHAT'S
09/24/09 18:20:21 BEEN SUGGESTED TO US AND IT'S
09/24/09 18:20:23 CLASSIC PLANNING THINKING AND IT
09/24/09 18:20:24 MAKES SENSE TO ME.
09/24/09 18:20:27 I THINK WE SHOULD
09/24/09 18:20:28 GO WITH THE
09/24/09 18:20:29 RECOMMENDATION MADE BY THE PRIOR
09/24/09 18:20:33 PLANNING --IF YOU TAKE THE
09/24/09 18:20:34 TIME
09/24/09 18:20:37 TO LOOK AT
09/24/09 18:20:38 MICHELLE'S REQUEST,
09/24/09 18:20:40 IT'S REVERY THOUGHTFULLY DOWN,
09/24/09 18:20:41 AN ANALYSIS ON A BLOCK BY BLOCK
09/24/09 18:20:43 BASIS OF THE LAND USES THAT ARE
09/24/09 18:20:46 ACTUALLY THERE AND WHAT SORT OF
09/24/09 18:20:49 SHAPE THEY'RE IN AND I THINK WE
09/24/09 18:20:51 SHOULD, WE SHOULD ACCEPT THE
09/24/09 18:20:52 RECOMMENDATION.
09/24/09 18:20:55 >> RECOMMENDATION IS
09/24/09 18:20:56 WHAT, LEAVE
09/24/09 18:20:57 IT ALONE?
09/24/09 18:20:59 >> YES.
09/24/09 18:21:00 >> STATUS QUO?
09/24/09 18:21:01 >> YES.
09/24/09 18:21:02 NOT GO IN AND SAY THE WHOLE AREA
09/24/09 18:21:03 IS GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL
09/24/09 18:21:04 BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT IS.
09/24/09 18:21:07 OKAY.
09/24/09 18:21:09 IF YOU NEED A MOTION, MY MOTION
09/24/09 18:21:12 IS TO ACCEPT THE STATUS --TO
09/24/09 18:21:15 ACCEPT
09/24/09 18:21:18 THE STUDY AND NOT MAKE
09/24/09 18:21:21 ANY CHANGES.
09/24/09 18:21:22 >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
09/24/09 18:21:28 THE --IN READING THROUGH
09/24/09 18:21:37 MS. PATTERSON'S RESPONSE TO
09/24/09 18:21:37 THE
09/24/09 18:21:38 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, IT
09/24/09 18:21:40 APPEARS THE FAMILY, AND AS I SAW
09/24/09 18:21:41 IT LOOKING AT THE TRANSCRIPT AND
09/24/09 18:21:44 FROM SOME OF OUR HISTORY ON
09/24/09 18:21:46 THIS, THEY'VE GOT ABOUT TWO
09/24/09 18:21:49 ACRES OVER THERE, AND WHAT SHE
09/24/09 18:21:52 STARTS OUT BY STAYING IS THAT
09/24/09 18:21:55 THEY'RE URGING US AT A
09/24/09 18:21:57 MINIMUM
09/24/09 18:21:59 TO GO TO CMU 24.
09/24/09 18:22:01 WHICH IS A MIXED USE.
09/24/09 18:22:04 AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS,
09/24/09 18:22:04 JUST
09/24/09 18:22:07 BASED UPON THAT REQUEST ALONE,
09/24/09 18:22:10 MICHELLE, CAN YOU TELL
09/24/09 18:22:10 THIS
09/24/09 18:22:11 COUNCIL, I THINK WE'RE ALWAYS
09/24/09 18:22:12 HERE TO BALANCE, THIS IS MORE
09/24/09 18:22:15 FOR THE BOY SCOUTS THAN
09/24/09 18:22:16 ANYBODY,
09/24/09 18:22:18 WE'RE HERE TO BALANCE THE
09/24/09 18:22:20 PRIVATE PROPERTY INTEREST OF THE
09/24/09 18:22:22 PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS, AS
09/24/09 18:22:23 COMPARED TO THE COMMUNITY'S
09/24/09 18:22:23 INTEREST.
09/24/09 18:22:25 AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S WHAT YOU DO
09/24/09 18:22:26 ON A DAY IN, AND DAY OUT BASIS.
09/24/09 18:22:28 THE QUESTION IS, IF THE REQUEST
09/24/09 18:22:31 IS CMU 24, WHAT DO THEY
09/24/09 18:22:34 HAVE
09/24/09 18:22:34 RIGHT NOW?
09/24/09 18:22:36 WHAT'S THEIR PLAN CATEGORY.
09/24/09 18:22:38 >> LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL,
09/24/09 18:22:41 RESIDENTIAL 20, AND
09/24/09 18:22:43 THERE IS NO
09/24/09 18:22:44 CMU 24.
09/24/09 18:22:47 I BELIEVE THEY'RE BLENDING THE
09/24/09 18:22:49 HEAVY COMMERCIAL 24, WHICH IS
09/24/09 18:22:52 WHAT WAS ASKED
09/24/09 18:22:55 OF THE CITY IN
09/24/09 18:22:58 2006, AND WE NOW HAVE THE
09/24/09 18:23:01 HEAVY
09/24/09 18:23:02 COMMERCIAL 24 IS NOW COMMUNITY
09/24/09 18:23:03 COMMERCIAL 35.
09/24/09 18:23:06 IT PERMITS --IT IS ORIENTED
09/24/09 18:23:07 TO
09/24/09 18:23:10 HAVING MUCH MORE MIXED USE, AS
09/24/09 18:23:13 MILL SALTINA ASKED IN
09/24/09 18:23:14 THE
09/24/09 18:23:16 PREVIOUS PLAN AMENDMENT HEARING,
09/24/09 18:23:17 IT IS PERMITTING STORAGE AND SO
09/24/09 18:23:20 ON AND YOU'RE GOING THROUGH YOUR
09/24/09 18:23:23 CODE AT THIS
09/24/09 18:23:26 POINT.
09/24/09 18:23:27 WHAT YOU GAVE F.D.O.T.
09/24/09 18:23:27 IS MIXED
09/24/09 18:23:30 USE-35, WHICH IS MIXED USES
09/24/09 18:23:31 UP
09/24/09 18:23:33 TO FLOOR AREA RATIO OF TWO.
09/24/09 18:23:36 IT ALLOWS YOU
09/24/09 18:23:38 TO DO RETAIL,
09/24/09 18:23:40 OFFICE, AND MIXED USES, AND
09/24/09 18:23:43 GENERAL COMMERCIAL, SUCH AS WHAT
09/24/09 18:23:46 YOU JUST DID
09/24/09 18:23:48 ON BUSCH BOULEVARD.
09/24/09 18:23:51 COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 IS
09/24/09 18:23:54 USUALLY FOUND ALONG HILLSBOROUGH
09/24/09 18:23:57 AVENUE, IT'S ALONG
09/24/09 18:23:58 BUTCH --NO,
09/24/09 18:23:59 NOT BUSCH.
09/24/09 18:24:01 HILLSBOROUGH I THINK AND PIECES
09/24/09 18:24:04 OF MARTIN LUTHER
09/24/09 18:24:05 KING FLORIDA
09/24/09 18:24:05 AVENUE.
09/24/09 18:24:07 THANK YOU, JAY.
09/24/09 18:24:08 ALREADY FORGOTTEN MY LAND USES.
09/24/09 18:24:10 BUT THAT'S THE IDEA IS TO KEEP
09/24/09 18:24:13 IT ALONG THE CORRIDORS.
09/24/09 18:24:15 IN FACT, IT IS THE PLAN WHEN YOU
09/24/09 18:24:18 READ THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
09/24/09 18:24:19 THE
09/24/09 18:24:21 PLAN CATEGORIES ARE ACTUALLY
09/24/09 18:24:23 DIRECTING DEVELOPMENT ALONG
09/24/09 18:24:23 CORRIDORS, NOT ON LOCAL STREETS.
09/24/09 18:24:27 >> WHAT WAS YOUR --WHAT
09/24/09 18:24:28 WAS
09/24/09 18:24:29 YOUR RECOMMENDATION OR PLANNING
09/24/09 18:24:31 COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION ON
09/24/09 18:24:34 THE SCHOOL BOARD PROPERTY?
09/24/09 18:24:37 >> THE
09/24/09 18:24:38 PLANNING COMMISSION
09/24/09 18:24:40 RECOMMENDED HEAVY COMMERCIAL 24.
09/24/09 18:24:42 AND THE CITY COUNCIL, AFTER
09/24/09 18:24:44 CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMUNITY,
09/24/09 18:24:45 WENT WITH THE CMU 35.
09/24/09 18:24:46 >> OKAY.
09/24/09 18:24:47 AND DO YOU --
09/24/09 18:24:49 >> THEY ELIMINATED HEAVY --THE
09/24/09 18:24:50 INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL USES OUT OF
09/24/09 18:24:52 THE MIX FOR THAT PROPERTY.
09/24/09 18:24:53 >> OKAY.
09/24/09 18:24:55 AND SO YOU DO OR DON'T --DIDN'T
09/24/09 18:24:58 HAVE ANY OBJECTION WITH THE CMU
09/24/09 18:25:00 35 FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD,
09/24/09 18:25:00 CORRECT?
09/24/09 18:25:02 >> THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
09/24/09 18:25:05 IT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE
09/24/09 18:25:06 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WANTS TO SEE.
09/24/09 18:25:09 MIXED USE ALONG OUR INTENSIVE
09/24/09 18:25:10 CORRIDORS THAT WE HAVE
09/24/09 18:25:11 DESIGNATED MIXED USE VILLAGES.
09/24/09 18:25:15 >> SO IT'S THE CC 35 THAT YOU
09/24/09 18:25:16 HAVE A PROBLEM WITH.
09/24/09 18:25:19 >> WELL, CERTAINLY ON
09/24/09 18:25:20 A LOCAL
09/24/09 18:25:23 STREET IN AN AREA THAT DOES HAVE
09/24/09 18:25:26 DITCHES, DOESN'T HAVE A
09/24/09 18:25:28 WHOLE
09/24/09 18:25:31 LOT OF INFRASTRUCTRE, DOES HAVE,
09/24/09 18:25:34 YOU KNOW, IT'S 1500 FEET OFF
09/24/09 18:25:34 OF
09/24/09 18:25:35 THE MAIN ROAD.
09/24/09 18:25:36 AND IT'S AN INTERESTING PLACE.
09/24/09 18:25:37 IT REALLY IS.
09/24/09 18:25:39 >> IF I COULD ASK ONE OTHER
09/24/09 18:25:40 QUESTION MR. CHAIRMAN BECAUSE
09/24/09 18:25:42 THERE IS SOME CONFUSION BECAUSE
09/24/09 18:25:44 SHE'S ASKED IN WRITING FOR CMU
09/24/09 18:25:47 24 BUT OUR STAFF SAYS THERE'S
09/24/09 18:25:47 NO
09/24/09 18:25:49 CMU 24 CATEGORY, CORRECT,
09/24/09 18:25:49 MICHELLE?
09/24/09 18:25:50 >> NO.
09/24/09 18:25:51 >> MS. PATTERSON.
09/24/09 18:25:54 >> I MAY HAVE.
09/24/09 18:25:55 >> COME UP.
09/24/09 18:25:55 SHE ASKED FOR --
09/24/09 18:25:59 >> I MAY HAVE WORDED
09/24/09 18:26:02 THAT
09/24/09 18:26:02 WRONG.
09/24/09 18:26:03 I MEANT MIXED USE-35.
09/24/09 18:26:05 WHICH IS WHAT YOU GAVE THE
09/24/09 18:26:05 D.O.T.
09/24/09 18:26:06 >> CMU 35.
09/24/09 18:26:06 >> CORRECT, CORRECT.
09/24/09 18:26:08 >> AND YOU'D LIKE US TO --
09/24/09 18:26:08 >> ABSOLUTELY.
09/24/09 18:26:10 >> GO FORWARD WITH IN THE
09/24/09 18:26:13 APPROPRIATE FASHION.
09/24/09 18:26:13 >> ABSOLUTELY.
09/24/09 18:26:14 >> AND MS. OGILVY, COME BACK UP
09/24/09 18:26:16 SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
09/24/09 18:26:19 YOU DON'T HAVE AN
09/24/09 18:26:22 OBJECTION WITH
09/24/09 18:26:23 CMU 35?
09/24/09 18:26:23 COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35?
09/24/09 18:26:26 >> FOR THE --I BELIEVE THAT
09/24/09 18:26:28 WOULD BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE
09/24/09 18:26:28 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
09/24/09 18:26:29 >> WELL IT SOUNDS LIKE.
09/24/09 18:26:29 >> INDUSTRIAL. >> NO.
09/24/09 18:26:34 IT'S RETAIL, IT'S A PLAN
09/24/09 18:26:37 CATEGORY THAT DOES BELONG ON A
09/24/09 18:26:39 CORRIDOR, NOT ON A LOCAL STREET.
09/24/09 18:26:42 IF I CAN BREAK
09/24/09 18:26:44 IT DOWN THAT --
09/24/09 18:26:46 >> WHAT I'M SAYING, I'M
09/24/09 18:26:46 CONFUSED.
09/24/09 18:26:48 SHE'S CLARIFYING AND SAY THEY
09/24/09 18:26:50 WOULD LIKE THE CMU 35 ON THEIR
09/24/09 18:26:50 PARCEL.
09/24/09 18:26:53 DID YOU SAY YOU WOULD OKAY OR
09/24/09 18:26:54 IT'S INCONSISTENT OR CONSISTENT.
09/24/09 18:26:55 >> IN --
09/24/09 18:26:56 >> WITH THEIR PROPERTY.
09/24/09 18:26:59 >> I BELIEVE THAT THE LOCATION
09/24/09 18:27:02 ON THIS SITE, GIVEN THE STUDY,
09/24/09 18:27:04 IT WOULD BE INCONSISTENT WITH
09/24/09 18:27:07 YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO
09/24/09 18:27:10 CONSIDER CMU 35 ON 10th
09/24/09 18:27:10 AVENUE.
09/24/09 18:27:13 >> SO YOU JUST THINK THE ONLY
09/24/09 18:27:14 THINGS THAT NEEDS TO STAY THERE
09/24/09 18:27:14 --
09/24/09 18:27:15 A. RESIDENTIAL .
09/24/09 18:27:16 >> LOW RESIDENTIAL.
09/24/09 18:27:19 >> I THINK THAT AT THIS TIME,
09/24/09 18:27:21 GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW, IT IS
09/24/09 18:27:21 CORRECT.
09/24/09 18:27:33 .
09/24/09 18:27:36 >> OKAY, MOTION
09/24/09 18:27:39 ON THE FLOOR.
09/24/09 18:27:40 WHO MADE THE MOTION?
09/24/09 18:27:41 [SOMEONE TALKING AWAY FROM
09/24/09 18:27:41 MIKE].
09/24/09 18:27:49 .
09/24/09 18:27:51 >> MOVE TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC
09/24/09 18:27:52 HEARING AND ACCEPT.
09/24/09 18:27:53 >> IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.
09/24/09 18:27:54 >> IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.
09/24/09 18:27:57 >> IT IS NOT A
09/24/09 18:27:59 PUBLIC HEARING.
09/24/09 18:28:01 >> IF YOU WISH TO RECEIVE --
09/24/09 18:28:03 >> NO, LET ME SEE.
09/24/09 18:28:04 I CAN'T RECEIVE THE PHOTOS.
09/24/09 18:28:05 >> YOU CAN.
09/24/09 18:28:06 >> AS PART OF THIS DISCUSSION.
09/24/09 18:28:08 >> IF IT'S PART OF THE MOTION.
09/24/09 18:28:11 .
09/24/09 18:28:13 >> I'LL TAKE THE PHOTOGRAPHS.
09/24/09 18:28:13 >> THANK YOU.
09/24/09 18:28:16 .
09/24/09 18:28:17 [SOMEONE SPEAKING AWAY FROM
09/24/09 18:28:18 MIKE].
09/24/09 18:28:19 >> IF WE CAN SEE THEM BEFORE WE
09/24/09 18:28:19 VOTE.
09/24/09 18:28:24 .
09/24/09 18:28:27 >> THE MOTION WAS MADE
09/24/09 18:28:30 BY
09/24/09 18:28:34 COUNCILWOMAN SAUL-SENA AND
09/24/09 18:28:34 IT
09/24/09 18:28:37 WAS SECONDED
09/24/09 18:28:40 BY COUNSELMAN
09/24/09 18:28:40 MIRANDA.
09/24/09 18:28:50 .
09/24/09 18:28:51 >> MR. CHAIRMAN.
09/24/09 18:28:52 >> YES.
09/24/09 18:28:54 >> I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE THE
09/24/09 18:28:57 LADY WHO GAVE US THESE PHOTOS TO
09/24/09 18:28:59 EXPLAIN WHY SHE GAVE THEM TO US.
09/24/09 18:29:00 WHAT THE IMAGES ARE.
09/24/09 18:29:03 WE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF
09/24/09 18:29:03 TREES.
09/24/09 18:29:04 I WAS JUST WASN'T CLEARING ON --
09/24/09 18:29:06 >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
09/24/09 18:29:09 >> THE PURPOSE OF
09/24/09 18:29:11 THE TREES IS
09/24/09 18:29:13 TREE CANOPY, THAT SHOWS A NICE
09/24/09 18:29:14 NEIGHBORHOOD.
09/24/09 18:29:15 THESE TREES HAVE BEEN THERE
09/24/09 18:29:17 SINCE THEIR EARLY 20s AND
09/24/09 18:29:20 THEY'RE FALLING DOWN, NOT BEING
09/24/09 18:29:22 MAINTAINED BY THE CITY.
09/24/09 18:29:23 YOU'LL SEE A PICTURE, THE
09/24/09 18:29:25 TRAILER PARK WITH ALL THE BROKEN
09/24/09 18:29:28 WINDOWS IS RIGHT HERE HAT THE
09/24/09 18:29:29 CORNER OF 42nd AND 10th AVENUE.
09/24/09 18:29:31 10th AVENUE CORRIDOR HAS A TOTAL
09/24/09 18:29:34 OF 80 CARS THAT WENT
09/24/09 18:29:35 THROUGH IN
09/24/09 18:29:36 TWO HOURS.
09/24/09 18:29:37 IT'S VERY HEAVY COMMERCIAL.
09/24/09 18:29:40 THE ROAD RANGERS ARE AT THE END
09/24/09 18:29:40 OF THE STREET.
09/24/09 18:29:41 THEY'RE SEMI-TRACTOR-TRAILERS
09/24/09 18:29:43 AND IF YOU LOOK UNDER HER LOCAL
09/24/09 18:29:45 STUDY SHE SAID 10th AVENUE IS A
09/24/09 18:29:47 LOW INTENSITY TRAVEL AREA AND
09/24/09 18:29:49 IT'S NOT ACCORDING TO THE
09/24/09 18:29:51 TRAFFIC STUDY.
09/24/09 18:29:52 THERE'S HEAVY TRACK TRAFFIC THAT
09/24/09 18:29:53 GOES THERE UP AND DOWN.
09/24/09 18:29:56 IT'S HARD TO BUILD A HOUSE
09/24/09 18:29:57 THERE
09/24/09 18:29:59 RESIDENTIALLY ON OUR PROPERTY
09/24/09 18:29:59 BECAUSE I ...
09/24/09 18:30:01 NOBODY WANTS TO
09/24/09 18:30:02 BUILD A HOUSE WHERE THERE'S 80
09/24/09 18:30:05 CARS THAT GO IN FRONT OF
09/24/09 18:30:06 IT IN
09/24/09 18:30:08 TWO HOURS WITH
09/24/09 18:30:08 SEMI-TRACTOR-TRAILERS.
09/24/09 18:30:09 >> MR. CHAIRMAN.
09/24/09 18:30:10 >> YES.
09/24/09 18:30:13 >> I HAPPEN TO DRIVE BY
09/24/09 18:30:13 THIS
09/24/09 18:30:16 AREA RIGHT BEFORE WE HAD THE BIG
09/24/09 18:30:17 TRASH PICK-UP THERE AND I
09/24/09 18:30:18 HONESTLY THINK THERE IS A
09/24/09 18:30:19 RESIDENTIAL AREA.
09/24/09 18:30:21 >> CAN I MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT,
09/24/09 18:30:21 PLEASE?
09/24/09 18:30:23 THERE'S A PICTURE OF A BLUE
09/24/09 18:30:26 HOUSE IN THERE WHERE SHE HAS IT
09/24/09 18:30:26 IN RESIDENTIAL.
09/24/09 18:30:27 IT'S NOT.
09/24/09 18:30:27 IT'S HEAVY COMMERCIAL.
09/24/09 18:30:29 IN ADDITION, IT'S TWO BLOCKS
09/24/09 18:30:31 FROM A STRIP CLUB WHERE CHILDREN
09/24/09 18:30:32 WALK RIGHT BY TO GO TO SCHOOL,
09/24/09 18:30:34 WHERE THEY CAN'T GO TO SCHOOL
09/24/09 18:30:35 BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE BUSSED
09/24/09 18:30:37 BECAUSE IT'S TOO BUSY TO WORK
09/24/09 18:30:40 THEY HAVE TO GO OBJECT
09/24/09 18:30:41 THE OTHER
09/24/09 18:30:41 SIDE OF I-4.
09/24/09 18:30:43 THE CHURCH SHE HAS IN THERE IS
09/24/09 18:30:44 IN HEAVY COMMERCIAL.
09/24/09 18:30:46 A LOT OF THE STUDY SHE'S GOT IS
09/24/09 18:30:47 NOT RIGHT.
09/24/09 18:30:47 IT'S IN THE WRONG SPOT.
09/24/09 18:30:49 I GUESS THAT'S MY POINT.
09/24/09 18:30:52 I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO EXPLAIN
09/24/09 18:30:52 IT.
09/24/09 18:30:53 BUT IF HER STUDY WAS CORRECT,
09/24/09 18:30:54 THEN YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.
09/24/09 18:30:56 BUT IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT
09/24/09 18:30:58 THE ROUTE, THE BLUE HOUSE, THAT
09/24/09 18:31:00 HOUSE IS ALREADY IN COMMERCIAL.
09/24/09 18:31:03 IT'S NOT IN A RESIDENTIAL
09/24/09 18:31:03 ZONE.
09/24/09 18:31:04 >> OKAY.
09/24/09 18:31:04 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09/24/09 18:31:05 >> YES, SIR.
09/24/09 18:31:08 >> MISS OGILVY IF
09/24/09 18:31:11 YOU DON'T MIND
09/24/09 18:31:14 FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES.
09/24/09 18:31:15 THIS PARCEL THAT IS IN QUESTION.
09/24/09 18:31:17 THERE WAS A PLAN AMENDMENT THAT
09/24/09 18:31:17 WAS FILED.
09/24/09 18:31:18 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
09/24/09 18:31:19 >> BY THE LAND OWNER.
09/24/09 18:31:19 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
09/24/09 18:31:21 >> BUT IT CAME BEFORE CITY
09/24/09 18:31:23 COUNCIL.
09/24/09 18:31:24 >> IT DID.
09/24/09 18:31:26 >> AND FOR WHAT DESIGNATION?
09/24/09 18:31:27 >> HEAVY COMMERCIAL 24.
09/24/09 18:31:30 >> HEAVY
09/24/09 18:31:30 COMMERCIAL 24.
09/24/09 18:31:31 AND THAT WAS DENIED.
09/24/09 18:31:33 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
09/24/09 18:31:33 >> AS INCONSISTENT.
09/24/09 18:31:34 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
09/24/09 18:31:37 >> AND NOW SHE'S ASKING FOR A
09/24/09 18:31:38 DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATION, IT
09/24/09 18:31:39 APPEARS.
09/24/09 18:31:42 >> THAT'S WHAT I
09/24/09 18:31:42 --
09/24/09 18:31:43 MR. DINGFELDER ASKED THAT
09/24/09 18:31:43 QUESTION.
09/24/09 18:31:45 >> IF THAT IS THE QUESTION WHAT
09/24/09 18:31:46 IS THEIR OPTION.
09/24/09 18:31:49 >> THEY MAY FILE A
09/24/09 18:31:49 PLAN
09/24/09 18:31:51 AMENDMENT, BUT I AM JUST LETTING
09/24/09 18:31:54 YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DID
09/24/09 18:31:57 LOOK AT THAT DURING
09/24/09 18:32:00 THE STUDY,
09/24/09 18:32:02 AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES
09/24/09 18:32:04 DIRECT US PROBABLY TO FIND THIS
09/24/09 18:32:05 TO BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE
09/24/09 18:32:06 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
09/24/09 18:32:08 >> SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THEN,
09/24/09 18:32:08 IS THEY DO HAVE THE
09/24/09 18:32:09 OPPORTUNITY --
09/24/09 18:32:09 >> THEY DO.
09/24/09 18:32:11 >> --TO REQUEST, AND YOU ARE
09/24/09 18:32:13 TELLING THEM THAT --TELLING THE
09/24/09 18:32:14 COUNCIL THAT BASED ON YOUR
09/24/09 18:32:16 STUDY, IT IS MOST LIKELY A
09/24/09 18:32:17 RECOMMENDATION WILL BE WHEN IT
09/24/09 18:32:18 COMES BEFORE THE COUNCIL THAT IT
09/24/09 18:32:21 WILL BE INCONSISTENT.
09/24/09 18:32:22 >> PROBABLY.
09/24/09 18:32:23 >> THANK YOU.
09/24/09 18:32:26 >> QUESTION ON THE MOTION.
09/24/09 18:32:28 >> MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
09/24/09 18:32:31 THAT MOTION ON THE FLOOR MOVED
09/24/09 18:32:34 AND SECONDED ALL IN FAVOR
09/24/09 18:32:37 SIGNIFY BY SAY AYE.
09/24/09 18:32:38 >> AYE.
09/24/09 18:32:41 >> OPPOSE BY SAYING
09/24/09 18:32:43 NAY.
09/24/09 18:32:44 THE MOTION FELL.
09/24/09 18:32:47 >> THE MOTION --
09/24/09 18:32:50 >> 3-2.
09/24/09 18:32:51 >> FAILED WITH DINGFELDER AND
09/24/09 18:32:52 CAETANO VOTING NO.
09/24/09 18:32:57 AND MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT
09/24/09 18:32:59 VOTE.
09/24/09 18:33:00 >> CAN WE VOTE AGAIN?
09/24/09 18:33:03 >>
09/24/09 18:33:06 YOU CAN IF YOU
09/24/09 18:33:06 MOVE
09/24/09 18:33:09 UNANIMOUSLY TO WAIVE RULE 4 C.
09/24/09 18:33:10 >> MOVE TO RULE.
09/24/09 18:33:12 >> THERE SEEM TO BE A LOT OF
09/24/09 18:33:13 ABSENT QUESTIONS.
09/24/09 18:33:14 I DON'T CARE TO VOTE ON THIS
09/24/09 18:33:15 TONIGHT.
09/24/09 18:33:16 I MEAN, WE ALREADY VOTED ON IT
09/24/09 18:33:18 THAT'S WHY I VOTED NO.
09/24/09 18:33:21 BECAUSE I THINK
09/24/09 18:33:21 THERE'S BEEN
09/24/09 18:33:22 SOME MISJUSTICE HERE.
09/24/09 18:33:24 I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THIS FIELD.
09/24/09 18:33:25 I DON'T KNOW MR. DINGFELDER
09/24/09 18:33:28 KNOWS MORE THAN I DO.
09/24/09 18:33:30 BEEN HERE LONGER.
09/24/09 18:33:32 BUT PEOPLE ARE VERY UNHAPPY.
09/24/09 18:33:36 WE DON'T WANT UNHAPPY PEOPLE
09/24/09 18:33:36 COMING BEFORE US.
09/24/09 18:33:39 >> WELL, THAT'S
09/24/09 18:33:40 --THAT HAPPENS
09/24/09 18:33:41 ALL THE TIME.
09/24/09 18:33:41 [ LAUGHTER ].
09/24/09 18:33:43 >> I REALIZE EVERY TIME WE,
09/24/09 18:33:46 EVERY TIME WE MEET PEOPLE LEAVE
09/24/09 18:33:46 UNHAPPY.
09/24/09 18:33:49 BUT LET ME JUST SAY THAT
09/24/09 18:33:51 THE --
09/24/09 18:33:52 WELL, SO WE REQUEST THE PLANNING
09/24/09 18:33:53 COMMISSION TO IF OUT AND DO THE
09/24/09 18:33:56 STUDY SO THE OPTION IS TO
09/24/09 18:33:58 RECEIVE THE STUDY OR NOT AND
09/24/09 18:33:59 THEIR RECOMMENDATION, EITHER
09/24/09 18:34:00 WHAT I'M HEARING, MI SHEM
09/24/09 18:34:03 SAYING, EVEN IF THEY GO AND FILE
09/24/09 18:34:05 A FILE AMENDMENT IT'S GOING TO
09/24/09 18:34:07 BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE USE.
09/24/09 18:34:08 SO I MEAN, WE --
09/24/09 18:34:11 >> AND THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC
09/24/09 18:34:12 HEARING, IT'S A STUDY.
09/24/09 18:34:13 YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON IT.
09/24/09 18:34:15 YOU CAN'T KEEP CARRYING IT BACK.
09/24/09 18:34:16 >> SO LET ME JUST SAY TONIGHT
09/24/09 18:34:19 WHAT WE DID IS REALLY GIVE YOU
09/24/09 18:34:22 AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE
09/24/09 18:34:23 --
09/24/09 18:34:26 IT'S A STAFF REPORT, AND THE
09/24/09 18:34:27 PUBLIC DOES NOT SPEAK BEFORE A
09/24/09 18:34:29 STAFF REPORT SO WE ALLOWED YOU
09/24/09 18:34:31 TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL TO BRING
09/24/09 18:34:32 YOUR CONCERNS.
09/24/09 18:34:33 I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE CLEAR
09/24/09 18:34:34 ON THAT.
09/24/09 18:34:36 IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, IT'S
09/24/09 18:34:37 STAFF REPORT.
09/24/09 18:34:39 >> THERE'S NO PLAN AMENDMENT
09/24/09 18:34:40 BEFORE COUNCIL, NO ACTION BEFORE
09/24/09 18:34:42 COUNCIL, AND COUNCIL JUST AS
09/24/09 18:34:45 MATTER OF PUBLIC POLICY, IT
09/24/09 18:34:47 WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR THIS
09/24/09 18:34:48 COUNCIL TO MAKE A CITY INITIATED
09/24/09 18:34:50 PLAN AMENDMENT TO TAKE ACTION ON
09/24/09 18:34:53 THIS WITH REGARD TO THIS
09/24/09 18:34:54 PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY.
09/24/09 18:34:55 BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENED IS THEY
09/24/09 18:34:55 HAD --
09/24/09 18:34:56 >> MY MOTION WAS THE FIRST TIME.
09/24/09 18:34:59 >> IF IT WAS --I BELIEVE IF I
09/24/09 18:35:00 UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY, THEY WERE
09/24/09 18:35:02 TO DO THE STUDY AND IF IT WAS
09/24/09 18:35:05 A --DID YOU ASK FOR A
09/24/09 18:35:07 CMU 35
09/24/09 18:35:08 PLAN AMENDMENT MR. DINGFELDER.
09/24/09 18:35:09 >> I DID.
09/24/09 18:35:11 BY THE TIME I GOT TO THE MOTION
09/24/09 18:35:13 IT GOT TWEAKED INTO A SMALL
09/24/09 18:35:16 STUDY, OKAY, OF JUST THE AREA TO
09/24/09 18:35:19 THE WEST OF WHAT'S THE NORTH
09/24/09 18:35:20 SOUTH ROAD THERE?
09/24/09 18:35:20 50th.
09/24/09 18:35:21 >> 50th STREET.
09/24/09 18:35:22 >> ALL RIGHT.
09/24/09 18:35:24 OKAY, AND IT GOT ELONGATED INTO
09/24/09 18:35:25 MUCH BIGGER THAN THAT WHICH
09/24/09 18:35:26 FRANKLY I THINK JADED THE
09/24/09 18:35:28 RESULTS BECAUSE THEN THEY TOOK
09/24/09 18:35:29 IN THE WHOLE RESIDENTIAL STUFF
09/24/09 18:35:30 GOING ON TO THE EAST OF 50th
09/24/09 18:35:32 STREET, AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS
09/24/09 18:35:32 FAIR.
09/24/09 18:35:33 AND THAT'S WHY I VOTED NO.
09/24/09 18:35:36 I DON'T THINK THE STATUS QUO IS
09/24/09 18:35:38 APPROPRIATE OR FAIR TO THIS
09/24/09 18:35:39 FAMILY THAT JUST HAS TWO ACRES
09/24/09 18:35:41 WAY OUT ON THE EDGE OF THIS
09/24/09 18:35:43 ENTIRE CITY AREA.
09/24/09 18:35:45 >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS, MICHELLE
09/24/09 18:35:46 CORRECT ME HERE, IS ONCE YOU
09/24/09 18:35:48 START LOOKING AT THE WEST YOU
09/24/09 18:35:51 HAVE TO LOOK AT EAST SIDE TO
09/24/09 18:35:51 SEE
09/24/09 18:35:52 WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
09/24/09 18:35:53 THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
09/24/09 18:35:54 IS THAT ACCURATE?
09/24/09 18:35:56 >> WE WANTED TO BE --TO HAVE
09/24/09 18:35:58 SOME BALANCE.
09/24/09 18:35:58 >> OKAY.
09/24/09 18:36:00 >> AND THAT'S WHY WE WENT TO THE
09/24/09 18:36:02 EAST BECAUSE IF IT'S FAIR ON
09/24/09 18:36:03 THIS SIDE, IT'S FAIR ON THAT
09/24/09 18:36:04 SIDE.
09/24/09 18:36:07 BUT I JUST --
09/24/09 18:36:09 IF I MAY,
09/24/09 18:36:09 MR. CHAIRMAN.
09/24/09 18:36:12 MR.
09/24/09 18:36:15 DINGFELDER, AS COUNCIL, YOU
09/24/09 18:36:16 ARE COUNCIL.
09/24/09 18:36:19 HOWEVER, THE --BOTH PARTS OF
09/24/09 18:36:22 50th STREET DO HAVE
09/24/09 18:36:23 SOME VERY
09/24/09 18:36:25 SOLID SINGLE FAMILY COMPONENTS
09/24/09 18:36:27 TO THEM, AND AGAIN, WE'RE
09/24/09 18:36:29 BRINGING TO YOU YOUR
09/24/09 18:36:30 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ANALYSIS
09/24/09 18:36:33 WHICH IS WE WANT TO BE PRUDENT
09/24/09 18:36:36 IN HOW WE LOOK AT
09/24/09 18:36:39 OUR SINGLE
09/24/09 18:36:39 FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
09/24/09 18:36:41 >> YES.
09/24/09 18:36:43 RULE 4 C, MR. CHAIRMAN, IS YOUR
09/24/09 18:36:46 NEWLY AMENDED 4 C WIE READS AS
09/24/09 18:36:46 FOLLOWS.
09/24/09 18:36:49 IF A MOTION IT APPROVE, DENY, OR
09/24/09 18:36:51 CONTINUE AN ORDINANCE OR A
09/24/09 18:36:52 RESOLUTION FAILS TO RECEIVE AT
09/24/09 18:36:55 LEAST FOUR VOTES EITHER IN
09/24/09 18:36:55 SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION IT SHALL
09/24/09 18:36:57 BE BROUGHT BACK BEFORE THE
09/24/09 18:36:59 COUNCIL AT THE NEXT REGULAR
09/24/09 18:37:01 COUNCIL MEETING AS UNFINISHED
09/24/09 18:37:01 BUSINESS.
09/24/09 18:37:03 THIS IS NEITHER AN ORDINANCE OR
09/24/09 18:37:04 RESOLUTION, THEREFORE UNDER
09/24/09 18:37:06 ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER ON A VOTE
09/24/09 18:37:08 THAT WAS WHAT I BELIEVE, SIR.
09/24/09 18:37:10 >> CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT YOUR VOTE
09/24/09 18:37:10 WAS.
09/24/09 18:37:12 >> 3-2.
09/24/09 18:37:15 >> ON A
09/24/09 18:37:16 3-2, TO.
09/24/09 18:37:18 >> ACCEPT THE PLAN --OPEN THE
09/24/09 18:37:18 PLANNING COMMISSION.
09/24/09 18:37:21 >> THIS IS NOT
09/24/09 18:37:22 AUTOMATICALLY CONTINUED.
09/24/09 18:37:23 AND THE MOTION UNDER ROBERTS
09/24/09 18:37:26 RULES FAILING TO GET A VOTE
09/24/09 18:37:26 OF
09/24/09 18:37:28 FOUR WOULD FAIL.
09/24/09 18:37:31 >> CAN WE BRING IT BACK
09/24/09 18:37:32 UP TO
09/24/09 18:37:34 BECAUSE MIRANDA IS HERE.
09/24/09 18:37:36 THIS IS A DISCUSSION, AND NOT A
09/24/09 18:37:38 LIKE YOU SAY A PUBLIC HEARING ON
09/24/09 18:37:38 IT.
09/24/09 18:37:41 SHOULD WE HAVE VOTED ON IT
09/24/09 18:37:41 ANYWAY?
09/24/09 18:37:43 WE SHOULD HAVE LISTENED TO WHAT
09/24/09 18:37:44 THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN
09/24/09 18:37:45 GIVEN US.
09/24/09 18:37:48 >> THIS WAS STAFF REPORT.
09/24/09 18:37:49 ULTIMATELY COUNCIL COULD HAVE
09/24/09 18:37:50 DIRECTED WHATEVER APPROPRIATE
09/24/09 18:37:52 ACTION IT WISHED TO BASED ON THE
09/24/09 18:37:52 STAFF REPORT.
09/24/09 18:37:53 WHEN YOU RECEIVE A REPORT, THE
09/24/09 18:37:54 ACTION IS TO RECEIVE AND FILE
09/24/09 18:37:56 AND MY RECOMMENDATION IF YOU
09/24/09 18:37:59 WANT TO TAKE ANY FUTURE TACKS
09/24/09 18:38:02 PUT IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
09/24/09 18:38:04 >> CAN WE MAKE ANOTHER MOTION TO
09/24/09 18:38:05 RECEIVE AND FILE IT?
09/24/09 18:38:06 >> YES.
09/24/09 18:38:09 >> I MAKE THE MOTION TO RECEIVE
09/24/09 18:38:12 AND FILE
09/24/09 18:38:17 IT THE REPORT FROM THE
09/24/09 18:38:17 PLANNING COMMISSION.
09/24/09 18:38:19 >> I'M GOING TO BE SENDING IT
09/24/09 18:38:19 OVER TO CHARLIE.
09/24/09 18:38:21 >> THE MOTION IS PRETTY MUCH IS
09/24/09 18:38:24 TO
09/24/09 18:38:27 JUST TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE
09/24/09 18:38:27 REPORT.
09/24/09 18:38:28 >> THAT'S RIGHT.
09/24/09 18:38:31 >> AND THAT WAS MADE
09/24/09 18:38:32 BY MILLER
09/24/09 18:38:33 AND SECONDED BY MIRANDA.
09/24/09 18:38:34 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
09/24/09 18:38:36 >> AYE.
09/24/09 18:38:37 >> AND OPPOSE IT.
09/24/09 18:38:38 >> NAY.
09/24/09 18:38:40 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH
09/24/09 18:38:43 DINGFELDER VOTING NO,
09/24/09 18:38:46 AND
09/24/09 18:38:48 MULHERN BEING ABSENT.
09/24/09 18:38:49 >> MOTION RECEIVED AND FILED.
09/24/09 18:38:49 THANK YOU.
09/24/09 18:38:52 >>> WE NEED TO
09/24/09 18:38:52 CLEAN UP HERE SO
09/24/09 18:38:54 THE STAFF CAN --WE HAVE TO
09/24/09 18:38:56 CLEAN UP QUITE A FEW THINGS.
09/24/09 18:38:59 I KNOW 7 THROUGH 7 HAS BEEN
09/24/09 18:39:00 CONTINUED TO NOVEMBER 20th.
09/24/09 18:39:01 WALK US THROUGH THAT AND GET
09/24/09 18:39:01 GOING.
09/24/09 18:39:02 >> BEFORE YOU START, AIM GOING
09/24/09 18:39:04 TO OPEN ALL THE PUBLIC HEARING
09/24/09 18:39:06 WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE FOR 7
09/24/09 18:39:07 THROUGH 12.
09/24/09 18:39:07 >> SECOND.
09/24/09 18:39:09 >> MOTION TO OPEN ALL IN FAVOR
09/24/09 18:39:13 SIGNIFY BY SAYING
09/24/09 18:39:16 AYE.
09/24/09 18:39:16 >> AYE.
09/24/09 18:39:16 >> OPPOSES?
09/24/09 18:39:17 OKAY.
09/24/09 18:39:18 SKW .
09/24/09 18:39:21 >> I BELIEVE YOU JUST HABDLESS
09/24/09 18:39:22 ITEMS 7 THROUGH IS.
09/24/09 18:39:23 YOU OPENED EVERYTHING.
09/24/09 18:39:24 >> JUST OPENED THEM SO THEY CAN
09/24/09 18:39:25 BE CONTINUED.
09/24/09 18:39:25 >> OKAY.
09/24/09 18:39:27 >> WAS THAT THE INTENTION?
09/24/09 18:39:30 I BELIEVE MS. COLE HAD
09/24/09 18:39:31 SUGGESTED --
09/24/09 18:39:33 >> YES, I BELIEVE IT IS A
09/24/09 18:39:33 CONTINUANCE.
09/24/09 18:39:34 >> MOTION ON THOSE ITEMS.
09/24/09 18:39:37 >> A DATE AND TIME, PLEASE.
09/24/09 18:39:40 >> NOVEMBER THE 12th.
09/24/09 18:39:43 >> VOTED TO CONTINUE.
09/24/09 18:39:45 [PEOPLE SPEAKING AT ONCE].
09/24/09 18:39:47 >> THEY'RE ALL THE SAME.
09/24/09 18:39:48 ALL NOVEMBER 12th.
09/24/09 18:39:51 >> YOU CAN MAKE THAT 5:30
09/24/09 18:39:53 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE SCHEDULE
09/24/09 18:39:53 TIME IS.
09/24/09 18:39:55 >> I BELIEVE WE MOVE 2 THROUGH
09/24/09 18:39:58 12
09/24/09 18:40:01 TO NOVEMBER THE 12th.
09/24/09 18:40:03 >> MOVED AND SECONDED, ALL IN
09/24/09 18:40:06 FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
09/24/09 18:40:09 SAYING
09/24/09 18:40:12 AYE.
09/24/09 18:40:12 >> AYE.
09/24/09 18:40:13 >> OPPOSES?
09/24/09 18:40:13 OKAY.
09/24/09 18:40:13 ITEM 13.
09/24/09 18:40:16 I BELIEVE WE HAVE A WITHDRAWING
09/24/09 18:40:17 THIS PETITION, IS THAT RIGHT?
09/24/09 18:40:18 ITEM 13?
09/24/09 18:40:21 >> MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
09/24/09 18:40:22 >> SECOND.
09/24/09 18:40:25 >> SO ITEM 13,
09/24/09 18:40:25 TO WITHDRAW.
09/24/09 18:40:27 ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING
09/24/09 18:40:27 AYE.
09/24/09 18:40:29 >> AYE.
09/24/09 18:40:30 >> OPPOSES?
09/24/09 18:40:32 >> OKAY.
09/24/09 18:40:32 ITEM 15.
09/24/09 18:40:33 >> YES, I BELIEVE MR. GRANDOFF
09/24/09 18:40:34 IS HERE.
09/24/09 18:40:36 >> FIRST IS ITEM 146789.
09/24/09 18:40:36 >> YES.
09/24/09 18:40:38 >> WE RECEIVED A LETTER THIS
09/24/09 18:40:41 MORNING FROM MR. MARK SULLIVAN,
09/24/09 18:40:42 AGENT FOR THE PETITIONER'S
09/24/09 18:40:44 REPRESENTATIVE, HE IS HERE THIS
09/24/09 18:40:45 EVENING.
09/24/09 18:40:47 THEY ARE REQUESTING A
09/24/09 18:40:50 CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 22nd
09/24/09 18:40:51 AT 6
09/24/09 18:40:52 P.M.
09/24/09 18:40:52 >> OKAY.
09/24/09 18:40:52 PETITIONER?
09/24/09 18:40:55 YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM 14
09/24/09 18:40:56 ON
09/24/09 18:40:57 THE CONTINUANCE?
09/24/09 18:41:00 >> MOVE TO CONTINUE TO OCTOBER
09/24/09 18:41:01 22nd AT 6 P.M.
09/24/09 18:41:04 >> SECOND.
09/24/09 18:41:06 >> MOVED AND SECONDED.
09/24/09 18:41:07 ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING
09/24/09 18:41:08 AYE.
09/24/09 18:41:09 >> AYE.
09/24/09 18:41:09 >> OPPOSES?
09/24/09 18:41:10 >> OKAY.
09/24/09 18:41:11 AND ITEM 15.
09/24/09 18:41:12 >> MOVE TO OPEN.
09/24/09 18:41:13 >> SECOND.
09/24/09 18:41:15 >> ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
09/24/09 18:41:16 SAYING AYE.
09/24/09 18:41:17 >> AYE.
09/24/09 18:41:17 >> MR. GRANDOFF.
09/24/09 18:41:20 >> I'M NOT SURE WHAT --
09/24/09 18:41:23 >> CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEAR.
09/24/09 18:41:26 >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS
09/24/09 18:41:28 JOHN
09/24/09 18:41:30 GRANDOFF, MY ADDRESS IS SUITE
09/24/09 18:41:31 2300 BANK OF AMERICA PLAZA.
09/24/09 18:41:33 WE'RE ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE
09/24/09 18:41:36 AND WE ARE AVAILABLE WHENEVER
09/24/09 18:41:37 IT'S CONVENIENT FOR MS. FEELY.
09/24/09 18:41:39 WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW
09/24/09 18:41:42 OUR SITE PLAN.
09/24/09 18:41:42 SO WHATEVER YOUR PLEASURE IS.
09/24/09 18:41:44 >> IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT
09/24/09 18:41:46 THEY ARE GOING TO CONVERT OR
09/24/09 18:41:48 AMEND THIS APPLICATION TO A PD
09/24/09 18:41:49 APPLICATION IN WHICH CASE WE
09/24/09 18:41:50 WOULD REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF 630
09/24/09 18:41:53 DAYS SO IT WOULD BE MOST
09/24/09 18:41:54 LIKELY
09/24/09 18:41:55 JANUARY 14th, 2010, AT 6 P.M.
09/24/09 18:41:58 >> THAT'S MORE THAN 60 DAYS.
09/24/09 18:42:01 >> BUT CODE REQUIRES 30 DAYS FOR
09/24/09 18:42:04 REVIEW, AND THEN 30
09/24/09 18:42:05 DAYS DRC
09/24/09 18:42:08 MEETING, AND THEN 30 DAYS
09/24/09 18:42:08 NOTICE.
09/24/09 18:42:11 THE WAY THE CODE IS STRUCTURED
09/24/09 18:42:13 IT'S 90-DAY PROCESS.
09/24/09 18:42:14 >> ANYONE WANT TO ADDRESS
09/24/09 18:42:15 COUNCIL ON THIS CONTINUED TO
09/24/09 18:42:16 JANUARY 14th?
09/24/09 18:42:19 >> JANUARY 10th.
09/24/09 18:42:22 >> JANUARY THE
09/24/09 18:42:22 10th.
09/24/09 18:42:22 2010.
09/24/09 18:42:23 AT 6 P.M.
09/24/09 18:42:24 >> I THINK I'M GOLFING THAT DAY.
09/24/09 18:42:27 >>
09/24/09 18:42:29 .
09/24/09 18:42:30 [ LAUGHTER ].
09/24/09 18:42:32 >> MOVED CONTINUED TO JANUARY
09/24/09 18:42:33 10th AT 6 P.M.
09/24/09 18:42:34 >> JUST A REMINDER, JUST SO THAT
09/24/09 18:42:36 PEOPLE REALIZE, IT IS A JANUARY
09/24/09 18:42:37 DATE.
09/24/09 18:42:38 BUT AS PART OF THE PROCESS, IT
09/24/09 18:42:40 WILL BE RENOTICED BECAUSE IT
09/24/09 18:42:40 WILL SHALL PD.
09/24/09 18:42:42 >> IT WILL BE A DIFFERENT
09/24/09 18:42:43 APPLICATION.
09/24/09 18:42:45 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
09/24/09 18:42:45 >> OKAY.
09/24/09 18:42:48 SO MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN MILLER
09/24/09 18:42:49 SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN
09/24/09 18:42:49 SAUL-SENA.
09/24/09 18:42:52 ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING
09/24/09 18:42:53 AYE.
09/24/09 18:42:54 >> AYE.
09/24/09 18:42:54 >> OPPOSES?
09/24/09 18:42:55 OKAY.
09/24/09 18:42:57 ITEM 16.
09/24/09 18:43:00 >> COUNCIL, ITEMS NUMBER 16
09/24/09 18:43:00 AND
09/24/09 18:43:02 17 WERE BOTH MISNOTICED FOR THIS
09/24/09 18:43:02 EVENING.
09/24/09 18:43:04 I ASK THAT THEY BE RESET THIS
09/24/09 18:43:07 EVENING
09/24/09 18:43:10 FOR NOVEMBER 12th AT 6
09/24/09 18:43:10 P.M.
09/24/09 18:43:13 >> MOVE TO RESET ITEMS 16 AND
09/24/09 18:43:13 17.
09/24/09 18:43:16 >> AND ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC
09/24/09 18:43:19 WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS
09/24/09 18:43:19 CONTINUANCE?
09/24/09 18:43:22 MOVED AND SECOND, MOVED BY
09/24/09 18:43:24 COUNCILWOMAN MILLER AND SECONDED
09/24/09 18:43:26 BY MIRANDA.
09/24/09 18:43:28 THIS IS ITEMS 16 AND 17.
09/24/09 18:43:31 SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
09/24/09 18:43:32 >> AYE.
09/24/09 18:43:34 THOSE WEREN'T OPENED BECAUSE
09/24/09 18:43:34 THEY WERE MISOPENED.
09/24/09 18:43:37 >> THAT WILL LEAVE 18, 19, 20,
09/24/09 18:43:38 AND 21 ON YOUR AGENDA THIS
09/24/09 18:43:41 EVENING AND THEY ARE READY
09/24/09 18:43:42 TO
09/24/09 18:43:42 MOVE FORWARD.
09/24/09 18:43:44 >> ALL RIGHT.
09/24/09 18:43:47 >> MOTION TO OPEN 18 TO 21.
09/24/09 18:43:50 >> ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
09/24/09 18:43:53 SAYING
09/24/09 18:43:55 AYE.
09/24/09 18:43:56 >> AYE.
09/24/09 18:43:57 >> ANYBODY ELSE?
09/24/09 18:43:57 OKAY.
09/24/09 18:43:58 >> DO YOU WANT TO SWEAR IN THE
09/24/09 18:43:59 WITNESSES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09/24/09 18:44:01 >> IT'S GOING TO BE ADDRESSING
09/24/09 18:44:02 COUNCIL THIS EVENING.
09/24/09 18:44:03 PLEASE PREPARE TO BE SWORN.
09/24/09 18:44:14 .
09/24/09 18:44:14 [SWEARING IN].
09/24/09 18:44:17 .
09/24/09 18:44:20 >> GO
09/24/09 18:44:21 AHEAD.
09/24/09 18:44:21 >> THANK YOU.
09/24/09 18:44:23 COUNCIL, PLEASE, IF THERE I
09/24/09 18:44:24 BELIEVE IS WRITTEN MATERIAL
09/24/09 18:44:27 WHICH HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE FOR
09/24/09 18:44:28 PUBLIC INSPECTION IN CITY
09/24/09 18:44:29 COUNCIL'S OFFICE I WOULD ASK
09/24/09 18:44:32 THAT BE RECEIVED AND FILED IN
09/24/09 18:44:35 THE RECORD.
09/24/09 18:44:38 >> MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILED.
09/24/09 18:44:39 >> SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
09/24/09 18:44:39 >> AYE.
09/24/09 18:44:41 >> PLEASE DISCLOSE WITH HOW MANY
09/24/09 18:44:42 COMMUNICATION OCCURRED AND THE
09/24/09 18:44:44 SUBSTANCE OF THAT COMMUNICATION
09/24/09 18:44:45 PRIOR TO TAKING ACTION AND
09/24/09 18:44:47 LASTLY LADIES ON GENTLEMEN I'M
09/24/09 18:44:48 PUTTING UP A SIGN TO REMIND YOU
09/24/09 18:44:50 THAT YOU HAVE IN FACT BEEN
09/24/09 18:44:50 SWORN.
09/24/09 18:44:53 IF YOU HAVE NOT AND THERE'S
09/24/09 18:44:54 ALSO
09/24/09 18:44:56 A SIGN-IN SHEET OUTSIDE TO
09/24/09 18:44:59 CONFIRM THAT,
09/24/09 18:44:59 TOO.
09/24/09 18:45:00 >> THANK YOU.
09/24/09 18:45:01 >> OKAY.
09/24/09 18:45:03 >> COUNCIL, THE FIRST CASE
09/24/09 18:45:06 BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS
09/24/09 18:45:06 D09-31.
09/24/09 18:45:07 LOCATED AT 117 SOUTH WILLOW
09/24/09 18:45:07 AVENUE.
09/24/09 18:45:11 IT IS THE REQUEST THIS
09/24/09 18:45:13 EVENING
09/24/09 18:45:16 OF FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
09/24/09 18:45:18 FOR PD BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL
09/24/09 18:45:18 OFFICE.
09/24/09 18:45:19 THIS CASE WAS PREVIOUSLY REZONED
09/24/09 18:45:22 BACK IN 2005 TAS YOU CAN SEE ON
09/24/09 18:45:25 PAGE ONE OF THE STAFF REPORT
09/24/09 18:45:27 UNDER Z 05-72.
09/24/09 18:45:29 THOSE WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED
09/24/09 18:45:31 WAIVERS LISTED THERE.
09/24/09 18:45:34 ONE WAS TO REDUCE THE
09/24/09 18:45:34 VEHICLE
09/24/09 18:45:37 USE AREA BUFFER FROM
09/24/09 18:45:39 8 FOOT TO 5
09/24/09 18:45:40 FEET.
09/24/09 18:45:43 THERE ARE TWO ANY WAIVERS BEING
09/24/09 18:45:44 REQUESTED THIS EITHER.
09/24/09 18:45:46 ONE IS 27-130 WAIVER WHICH IS A
09/24/09 18:45:49 USE TO USE BUFFER, FROM 15
09/24/09 18:45:49 FEET
09/24/09 18:45:52 WITH A 6 FOOT MACEONRY WALL TO
09/24/09 18:45:55 4.5 FEET WITH A 6 FOOT
09/24/09 18:45:55 FENCE.
09/24/09 18:45:58 AND THEN THERE IS A
09/24/09 18:46:01 REQUEST FOR
09/24/09 18:46:02 A CHILD WASTE BUFFER.
09/24/09 18:46:04 >>> THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS PD TO
09/24/09 18:46:05 PD BUT IT IS TO REMOVE A
09/24/09 18:46:06 CONDITION THAT WAS ON THE PLAN
09/24/09 18:46:08 THE PREVIOUS PLAN WHICH WAS A
09/24/09 18:46:09 CROSS ACCESS BETWEEN THIS
09/24/09 18:46:11 PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY TO THE
09/24/09 18:46:11 NORTH.
09/24/09 18:46:14 I'M GOING TO SHOW
09/24/09 18:46:17 YOU THAT IN MY
09/24/09 18:46:18 PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
09/24/09 18:46:21 STAFF DID FIND THIS
09/24/09 18:46:24 CONSISTENT
09/24/09 18:46:26 WITH CITY OF TAMPA LAND
09/24/09 18:46:26 DEVELOPMENT.
09/24/09 18:46:35 THE PROPERTY SHOWN
09/24/09 18:46:37 HERE IN
09/24/09 18:46:39 GREEN WILLOW AVENUE TO THE EAST
09/24/09 18:46:43 CLEVELAND TO
09/24/09 18:46:44 THE SOUTH, THE
09/24/09 18:46:46 CROSSTOWN TO THE WEST SHOW YOU
09/24/09 18:46:47 AN AERIAL.
09/24/09 18:46:49 THE PD FROM 2005 HAS BEEN
09/24/09 18:46:50 CONSTRUCTED ON THE SITE.
09/24/09 18:46:52 IT IS OPERATING, IT IS A
09/24/09 18:46:53 BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
09/24/09 18:46:56 YOU CAN SEE THERE ON
09/24/09 18:46:56 THE SIDE.
09/24/09 18:47:00 CLEVELAND TO
09/24/09 18:47:02 THE SOUTH AGAIN.
09/24/09 18:47:03 WILLOW TO THE EAST.
09/24/09 18:47:07 THE SHOT OF THE BUILDING.
09/24/09 18:47:10 THIS IS THE PARKING AREA IN
09/24/09 18:47:10 THE
09/24/09 18:47:11 BACK.
09/24/09 18:47:14 THIS IS THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY
09/24/09 18:47:17 TO THE NORTH AND THIS IS
09/24/09 18:47:18 THE
09/24/09 18:47:20 AREA THAT THIS PD IS FOCUSSING
09/24/09 18:47:22 ON AND YOU CAN SEE THAT SOME
09/24/09 18:47:24 PICKET FENCING HAS BEEN PLACED
09/24/09 18:47:25 IN THERE.
09/24/09 18:47:27 THIS WAS ACROSS THE ACCESS IN
09/24/09 18:47:29 BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES.
09/24/09 18:47:32 THIS IS THE
09/24/09 18:47:33 PROPERTY FURTHER TO
09/24/09 18:47:33 THE NORTH.
09/24/09 18:47:36 THIS IS A LAW OFFICE ACROSS THE
09/24/09 18:47:39 STREET ON OTHER SIDE OF
09/24/09 18:47:39 WILLOW.
09/24/09 18:47:41 THIS IS MOVING UP WILLOW NORTH.
09/24/09 18:47:44 YOU CAN SEE IT'S RIGHT NEAR THE
09/24/09 18:47:47 CROSSTOWN, THE RAMP TO
09/24/09 18:47:50 THE
09/24/09 18:47:51 CROSSTOWN AND LOOKING TOWARD
09/24/09 18:47:52 DOWNTOWN.
09/24/09 18:47:54 THEY SAID THIS IS A PD REQUEST.
09/24/09 18:47:57 THIS IS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE
09/24/09 18:47:58 TO
09/24/09 18:47:59 BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
09/24/09 18:48:00 WE HAVE THE PRIOR SITE PLAN, IT
09/24/09 18:48:01 LOOKS JUST LIKE THE SITE PLAN
09/24/09 18:48:04 TORD AND THIS IS TO REMOVE THAT
09/24/09 18:48:05 ACCESS THAT WAS SHARED BETWEEN
09/24/09 18:48:08 THE
09/24/09 18:48:11 NORTH PROPERTY
09/24/09 18:48:14 AND THE SOUTH
09/24/09 18:48:15 PROPERTY.
09/24/09 18:48:18 STAFF AVAILABLE FOR ANY
09/24/09 18:48:18 QUESTIONS.
09/24/09 18:48:22 >> THE PLANNING
09/24/09 18:48:23 COMMISSION?
09/24/09 18:48:25 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN:
09/24/09 18:48:27 MS. FEELY DID A GOOD JOB OF
09/24/09 18:48:29 GIVING YOU HISTORY ON THE SITE.
09/24/09 18:48:31 BASICALLY CAME IN TO STF FOR PD
09/24/09 18:48:32 IN 2005.
09/24/09 18:48:33 YOU ACTUALLY CONTINUED IT TO SEE
09/24/09 18:48:34 IF THE APPLICANT CAN COME BACK
09/24/09 18:48:37 WITH LITTLE BIT BETTER DESIGN
09/24/09 18:48:38 FOR THE STRUCTURE WHICH THEY DID
09/24/09 18:48:39 AND SUBSEQUENTLY WAS APPROVED BY
09/24/09 18:48:40 THIS BODY.
09/24/09 18:48:43 AS YOU CAN SEE, THE FUTURE LANE
09/24/09 18:48:46 USE MAP HAS THE LAND
09/24/09 18:48:46 USE
09/24/09 18:48:49 DESIGNATION, 35, AND THEN HEAVY
09/24/09 18:48:52 COMMERCIAL 24 TO THE USE,
09/24/09 18:48:53 URBAN
09/24/09 18:48:54 ON THE BOULEVARD, AS MISS FEELY
09/24/09 18:48:55 DESCRIBED TO YOU.
09/24/09 18:48:58 THIS IS AN OFFICE AND HAS
09/24/09 18:48:59 TRANSITIONED INTO AN OFFICE
09/24/09 18:49:01 DISTRICT ESPECIALLY ALONG WILLOW
09/24/09 18:49:03 WHICH IS A CONNECTOR ROAD THIS
09/24/09 18:49:04 PARTICULAR SEGMENT WHICH ALLOWS
09/24/09 18:49:04 THESE USES.
09/24/09 18:49:08 CLEVELAND IS A ONE WAY
09/24/09 18:49:09 GOING
09/24/09 18:49:12 WEST, ENTIRELY TRAFFIC SO
09/24/09 18:49:14 CONDUCIVE FOR OFFICE TYPE USE
09/24/09 18:49:17 VERSUS THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER
09/24/09 18:49:18 OF THE PAST.
09/24/09 18:49:21 WE FOUND NO OBJECTIONS AND
09/24/09 18:49:24 IS
09/24/09 18:49:25 CONSISTENT WITH USE.
09/24/09 18:49:26 >> PETITIONER.
09/24/09 18:49:29 MS. GRINDS, LET ME TO SAY,
09/24/09 18:49:30 EXTEND TO YOU OUR CONDOLENCES
09/24/09 18:49:31 AND PRAYERS THROUGH A DIFFICULT
09/24/09 18:49:34 TIME AND LOSS OF
09/24/09 18:49:35 YOUR MOTHER.
09/24/09 18:49:36 >> THANK YOU.
09/24/09 18:49:36 APPRECIATE IT.
09/24/09 18:49:40 >> YOU HAVE OUR PRAYERS AND
09/24/09 18:49:41 SUPPORT.
09/24/09 18:49:43 STATE YOUR NAMED AND AND
09/24/09 18:49:43 ADDRESS.
09/24/09 18:49:46 >> GEENA GRIMES WITH THE LAW
09/24/09 18:49:49 FORM, 101 EAST KENNEDY
09/24/09 18:49:50 BOULEVARD.
09/24/09 18:49:51 AND I REPRESENT PALI PROPERTIES
09/24/09 18:49:53 LLC WHICH IS THE OWNER OF THIS
09/24/09 18:49:54 PROPERTY.
09/24/09 18:49:56 THE MANAGING MEMBER IS CHRIS TOE
09/24/09 18:49:56 FOOR LE GORY.
09/24/09 18:49:58 HE'S IN THE OFFICE WITH ME THIS
09/24/09 18:49:58 EVENING.
09/24/09 18:50:00 HIS LAW OFFICE IS LOCATED ON THE
09/24/09 18:50:02 BUILDING ON THIS SITE, AND I
09/24/09 18:50:03 THINK MS. FEELY GAVE YOU A VERY
09/24/09 18:50:04 ACCURATE DESCRIPTION OF THE
09/24/09 18:50:06 HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY AND I
09/24/09 18:50:08 JUST WANTED TO PUT UP HERE THAT
09/24/09 18:50:11 THE SITE PLAN FROM --THAT 2005
09/24/09 18:50:14 ZONING AND AS CAN YOU SEE, THERE
09/24/09 18:50:15 WASN'T A REQUIREMENT FOR PAVED
09/24/09 18:50:17 CROSS ACCESS, AND THE REASON
09/24/09 18:50:18 THAT REQUIREMENT WAS ON THERE
09/24/09 18:50:20 WAS NOT AS A RESULT OF THE
09/24/09 18:50:22 COUNCIL DISCUSSION OR A COUNCIL
09/24/09 18:50:23 IMPOSED CONDITION.
09/24/09 18:50:26 IT WAS BECAUSE OF AN AGREEMENT
09/24/09 18:50:28 BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS
09/24/09 18:50:31 THAT MR. LEGORY AGREED TO
09/24/09 18:50:33 PROVIDE THE PAVED CROSS ACCESS.
09/24/09 18:50:35 AS WITH A LOT OF THINGS,
09/24/09 18:50:36 SOMETIMES NO GOOD DEED GOES
09/24/09 18:50:38 UNPUNISHED BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED
09/24/09 18:50:39 WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS ULTIMATELY
09/24/09 18:50:43 DEVELOPED WAS, AND THAT
09/24/09 18:50:44 IS THE
09/24/09 18:50:45 PICTURE OF THE AREA, THAT'S THE
09/24/09 18:50:46 CROSS ACCESS AREA AND THIS IS
09/24/09 18:50:49 THE BETTER PICTURE WHERE I CAN
09/24/09 18:50:50 DESCRIBE TO YOU EXACTLY WHAT
09/24/09 18:50:51 ENDED UP HAPPENING.
09/24/09 18:50:54 THIS WAS THE ACCESS DRIVE TO, TO
09/24/09 18:50:56 THE --IT'S ACTUALLY A DUPLEX TO
09/24/09 18:50:57 THE NORTH AND WHAT HAPPENED
09/24/09 18:51:00 INSTEAD OF PEOPLE PARKING BACK
09/24/09 18:51:01 HERE, IS THEY WERE ANGLED
09/24/09 18:51:04 PARKING AND AS A RESULT WERE --
09/24/09 18:51:06 AT SOME TIME EXTENDING INTO
09/24/09 18:51:08 MR. LEGORY'S PARKING AREA HERE
09/24/09 18:51:11 WHICH WOULD BE THIS AREA RIGHT
09/24/09 18:51:12 HERE.
09/24/09 18:51:13 AND THERE WERE A COUPLE OF
09/24/09 18:51:15 INSTANCES WHERE THEY ACTUALLY
09/24/09 18:51:16 PARKED ON HIS PROPERTY, AN R V
09/24/09 18:51:19 THAT IT HE ASKED IT
09/24/09 18:51:21 BE REMOVED.
09/24/09 18:51:22 IT WAS REMOVED TEMPORARILY AND
09/24/09 18:51:23 BROUGHT BACK.
09/24/09 18:51:24 THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFLICTS
09/24/09 18:51:27 WITH THE
09/24/09 18:51:30 PARKING SO MR. LEGORY
09/24/09 18:51:31 INSTALLED THIS PICKET FENCE.
09/24/09 18:51:33 AND AS A RESULT HE WAS CITED BY
09/24/09 18:51:35 CODE ENFORCEMENT AND ONE OF THE
09/24/09 18:51:38 SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEM WAS, OF
09/24/09 18:51:40 COURSE, TO REQUEST REMOVAL OF
09/24/09 18:51:43 THE COUNCIL --OF THE CONDITION
09/24/09 18:51:45 ON THE SITE PLANS.
09/24/09 18:51:48 THE VOLUNTARY CONDITIONS FOR THE
09/24/09 18:51:49 PAVED CROSS ACCESS.
09/24/09 18:51:50 I KNOW THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY
09/24/09 18:51:53 WONDERING WHAT'S THE POSITION
09/24/09 18:51:55 OF
09/24/09 18:51:56 THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER AND
09/24/09 18:51:57 AS LATE AS THIS AFTERNOON WE
09/24/09 18:51:59 WERE ABLE TO RESOLVE THE ISSUES
09/24/09 18:52:01 WITH THE AIR JAYSANT PROPERTY
09/24/09 18:52:04 OWNER AND
09/24/09 18:52:05 WE HAVE FOR SUBMISSION
09/24/09 18:52:08 FOR THE RECORD AS NO OBJECTION
09/24/09 18:52:10 FROM HER.
09/24/09 18:52:12 SHE BASICALLY STATES THAT IT'S
09/24/09 18:52:15 TO ADVISE YOU THAT SHE
09/24/09 18:52:16 HAS
09/24/09 18:52:19 RESOLVED THE DISPUTE WITH
09/24/09 18:52:23 PALI.
09/24/09 18:52:25 THEY NO LONGER HAVE AN
09/24/09 18:52:26 OBJECTION.
09/24/09 18:52:27 NO LONGER INTERESTED IN HAVING
09/24/09 18:52:28 PALI PAVE THE ACCESS DRIVE.
09/24/09 18:52:31 AT ONE POINT THAT WAS A DISPUTE.
09/24/09 18:52:34 SINCE THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF
09/24/09 18:52:38 THAT
09/24/09 18:52:39 CONDITION WAS TO ACCOMMODATE THE
09/24/09 18:52:41 PROPERTY OWNER SINCE SHE NO
09/24/09 18:52:43 LONGER OBJECTS AND THE STAFF HAS
09/24/09 18:52:46 NO OBJECTIONS AND THEY'RE
09/24/09 18:52:47 FINDING IT CONSISTENT WITH LAND
09/24/09 18:52:49 DEVELOPMENT PLAN WE ARE ASKING
09/24/09 18:52:50 YOU FOR APPROVAL.
09/24/09 18:52:53 >> ANYONE FROM
09/24/09 18:52:55 THE PUBLIC WITH
09/24/09 18:52:56 QUESTIONS?
09/24/09 18:52:56 >> COUNCIL?
09/24/09 18:52:57 ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING
09/24/09 18:52:58 AYE.
09/24/09 18:52:58 >> AYE.
09/24/09 18:53:01 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MOVE
09/24/09 18:53:03 IN ORDER TO RESOENG PROPERTY THE
09/24/09 18:53:06 VICINITY OF 117 SOUTH WILLOW
09/24/09 18:53:09 AVENUE IN THE
09/24/09 18:53:11 CITY OF TAMPA
09/24/09 18:53:14 FLORIDA, AND PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT
09/24/09 18:53:16 TO PD BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL
09/24/09 18:53:17 OFFICE PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
09/24/09 18:53:18 DATE.
09/24/09 18:53:19 >> MOVED AND SECOND.
09/24/09 18:53:20 ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING
09/24/09 18:53:20 AYE.
09/24/09 18:53:21 AYE.
09/24/09 18:53:24 .
09/24/09 18:53:27 >>> MOTION CARRIED WITH MULHERN
09/24/09 18:53:28 BEING ABSENT.
09/24/09 18:53:28 SECOND READING ON OCTOBER 15th
09/24/09 18:53:29 AT 9:30 A.M..
09/24/09 18:53:35 .
09/24/09 18:53:36 >>> ITEM 19.
09/24/09 18:53:57 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL, SEAN
09/24/09 18:54:00 DOCK MANITOBA, DEVELOPMENT
09/24/09 18:54:02 COORDINATION, I'VE BEEN SWORN.
09/24/09 18:54:05 THE NEXT ITEM IS ZEE 09-19 FOR
09/24/09 18:54:08 THE PROPERTY AT 4205 AND
09/24/09 18:54:08 4215
09/24/09 18:54:09 NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE.
09/24/09 18:54:11 REZONE FROM PD PLAN DEVELOPED TO
09/24/09 18:54:14 PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO
09/24/09 18:54:16 ALLOW FOR
09/24/09 18:54:17 A RESTAURANT RETAIL SALES.
09/24/09 18:54:19 CONVENIENCE GOODS USES ON SIDE.
09/24/09 18:54:21 THIS REQUEST IS TO EXPAND THE
09/24/09 18:54:23 CURRENT RESTAURANT WHICH EXISTS
09/24/09 18:54:25 ON SITE.
09/24/09 18:54:27 THE SITE WAS APPROVED IN 1996
09/24/09 18:54:29 FOR BOTH THE RESTAURANT AND
09/24/09 18:54:30 RETAIL SALE USES.
09/24/09 18:54:32 THE PD REQUEST INCLUDES AN
09/24/09 18:54:35 INCREASE OF 963 SQUARE FEET OF
09/24/09 18:54:38 RESTAURANT WHICH EXCEEDS THE 5%
09/24/09 18:54:41 WHICH WOULD BE ALLOWED
09/24/09 18:54:43 ADMINISTRATIVELY THROUGH A
09/24/09 18:54:43 REVIEW.
09/24/09 18:54:45 THE PROPERTY CONTAINS 24,782
09/24/09 18:54:45 SQUARE FEET.
09/24/09 18:54:48 THE REQUIRED PARKING IS 28
09/24/09 18:54:51 SPACES AND 21 SPACES
09/24/09 18:54:53 ARE
09/24/09 18:54:54 PROVIDED.
09/24/09 18:54:57 AND THIS IS A
09/24/09 18:54:59 ZONING ATLAS OF
09/24/09 18:55:00 THE AREA.
09/24/09 18:55:01 BOREDED WITH ARMENIA TO THE
09/24/09 18:55:03 WEST, KENTUCKY NORTH OF THE
09/24/09 18:55:06 SITE, HOWARD AVENUE IS ALONG
09/24/09 18:55:07 THE
09/24/09 18:55:08 EAST, THERE'S CG ZONING
09/24/09 18:55:10 PREDOMINANTLY ALONG ARMENIA WITH
09/24/09 18:55:13 A COUPLE
09/24/09 18:55:14 OF PD ZONINGS AND
09/24/09 18:55:17 RESIDENTIAL, AND SINGLE FAMILY
09/24/09 18:55:20 TO THE EAST OF THE
09/24/09 18:55:21 SITE.
09/24/09 18:55:22 AND THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE
09/24/09 18:55:23 SITE.
09/24/09 18:55:25 AND COUNCIL, THIS IS THE
09/24/09 18:55:26 EXISTING RETAIL STORE.
09/24/09 18:55:29 THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT
09/24/09 18:55:30 WAS TO EXPAND THIS RESTAURANT
09/24/09 18:55:33 USE WHICH
09/24/09 18:55:36 IS ACTUALLY JUST THIS
09/24/09 18:55:36 PORTION HERE.
09/24/09 18:55:39 EVERYTHING ELSE, THE USE WILL
09/24/09 18:55:40 REMAIN THE SAME.
09/24/09 18:55:43 AND
09/24/09 18:55:46 I HAVE PICTURES OF THE SITE.
09/24/09 18:55:49 THE RESTAURANT, THIS
09/24/09 18:55:53 IS THE SITE
09/24/09 18:55:54 ON ARMENIA.
09/24/09 18:55:55 ANOTHER VIEW.
09/24/09 18:55:57 THIS IS THE RETAIL THAT'S ON
09/24/09 18:56:00 ARMENIA, THAT'S
09/24/09 18:56:01 THE NORTH SIDE
09/24/09 18:56:01 OF THE SITE.
09/24/09 18:56:03 THIS IS THE EAST SIDE OF THE
09/24/09 18:56:06 SITE WHICH IS
09/24/09 18:56:07 THE PARKING FOR
09/24/09 18:56:08 BOTH USES.
09/24/09 18:56:11 THIS IS NORTHWEST
09/24/09 18:56:14 OF THE SITE ON
09/24/09 18:56:14 ARMENIA.
09/24/09 18:56:17 SOUTHWEST OF THE SITE ON
09/24/09 18:56:18 ARMENIA.
09/24/09 18:56:19 SOUTH OF THE SITE.
09/24/09 18:56:22 AND THIS IS EAST
09/24/09 18:56:25 OF THE
09/24/09 18:56:26 SITE ON
09/24/09 18:56:27 ST. ISABELLE.
09/24/09 18:56:29 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
09/24/09 18:56:31 HAS REVIEWED THE PETITION AND
09/24/09 18:56:34 FINDS IT CONSISTENT WITH
09/24/09 18:56:34 LAND
09/24/09 18:56:35 DEVELOPMENT CODE, HOWEVER
09/24/09 18:56:38 MODIFICATIONS ARE MADE BETWEEN
09/24/09 18:56:40 FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.
09/24/09 18:56:41 STAFF WILL FIND IT CONSISTENT.
09/24/09 18:56:44 COUNCIL I HANDED OUT
09/24/09 18:56:45 A SHEET
09/24/09 18:56:47 ENTIELGDED Z09-19 SITE REVISION
09/24/09 18:56:47 SHEET.
09/24/09 18:56:50 THIS HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE
09/24/09 18:56:50 PETITIONER.
09/24/09 18:56:51 IN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
09/24/09 18:56:53 READINGS TO MAKE THE CHANGES IF
09/24/09 18:56:54 IT IS APPROVED.
09/24/09 18:56:55 THESE ARE THE ONLY CHANGES
09/24/09 18:56:57 REQUESTED BY STAFF.
09/24/09 18:57:00 IF THESE CHANGES
09/24/09 18:57:01 ARE MADE, IT
09/24/09 18:57:02 WOULD BE CONSISTENT.
09/24/09 18:57:03 THAT CONCLUDES THAT
09/24/09 18:57:03 PRESENTATION.
09/24/09 18:57:06 I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY
09/24/09 18:57:07 QUESTIONS.
09/24/09 18:57:10 >> MR.
09/24/09 18:57:11 GARCIA.
09/24/09 18:57:12 THE PLANNING COMMISSION?
09/24/09 18:57:15 >> THANK YOU, I'VE
09/24/09 18:57:16 BEEN SWORN
09/24/09 18:57:16 IN.
09/24/09 18:57:17 TONY GARCIA.
09/24/09 18:57:18 WHEN THE SITE CAME IN IT CAME IN
09/24/09 18:57:21 FOR THE ONE PIECE
09/24/09 18:57:22 BUT ACTUALLY
09/24/09 18:57:23 IT'S BOTH PIECES WHAT WOULD BE
09/24/09 18:57:25 INCLUDED IS THIS PIECE AND THIS
09/24/09 18:57:28 PIECE TO THE REAR SO I APOLOGIZE
09/24/09 18:57:31 FOR THE DELETED AREA FOR YOU TO
09/24/09 18:57:32 TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION OVER
09/24/09 18:57:32 HERE.
09/24/09 18:57:34 BUT BASICALLY IN A NUTSHELL THEY
09/24/09 18:57:36 HAD TO GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE THE
09/24/09 18:57:38 GROCERY STORE WHICH IS BASICALLY
09/24/09 18:57:39 FRONTING ARMENIA AVENUE AND THE
09/24/09 18:57:41 COURSE THE LITTLE RESTAURANT TO
09/24/09 18:57:44 THE REAR WHICH IS THE SUBJECT
09/24/09 18:57:44 OF
09/24/09 18:57:46 THE REQUEST THIS EVENING.
09/24/09 18:57:47 THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN
09/24/09 18:57:48 COOPERATIVE WITH STAFF AS FAR AS
09/24/09 18:57:51 COMING BACK SEVERAL TIMES AND
09/24/09 18:57:52 TRYING TO WORK OUT THE
09/24/09 18:57:53 FUNCTIONALITY OF THE PARKING ON
09/24/09 18:57:54 SITE AND THEY'VE WORKED VERY
09/24/09 18:57:58 HARD IN TRYING TO
09/24/09 18:57:58 ACCOMMODATE
09/24/09 18:57:59 THE REQUEST OF CITY STAFF.
09/24/09 18:58:02 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND
09/24/09 18:58:05 THE PROPOSED
09/24/09 18:58:06 REQUEST CONSISTENT
09/24/09 18:58:07 WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
09/24/09 18:58:09 MR. MIRANDA, DO YOU REMEMBER
09/24/09 18:58:10 WHAT THE ORIGINAL SITE WAS.
09/24/09 18:58:13 >> YES, I CAN TELL YOU
09/24/09 18:58:14 WHAT WAS
09/24/09 18:58:14 TURNED DOWN.
09/24/09 18:58:16 YEARS AGO IT WAS TURNED DOWN.
09/24/09 18:58:17 THEY WANTED TO HAVE A
09/24/09 18:58:18 TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM THERE WITH
09/24/09 18:58:20 BUSES GOING TO MIAMI.
09/24/09 18:58:20 DO YOU REMEMBER THAT?
09/24/09 18:58:22 >> YES, I DO.
09/24/09 18:58:25 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09/24/09 18:58:26 [ LAUGHTER ].
09/24/09 18:58:28 >> BUT THE TAQUERIA MI MEXICO
09/24/09 18:58:29 WAS THE ORIGINAL HOME OF THE
09/24/09 18:58:30 WEST TAMPA SAN WITCH SHOP.
09/24/09 18:58:32 >> I WANTED YOU TO SAY THAT SO I
09/24/09 18:58:33 WOULDN'T GET ALL THE CREDIT.
09/24/09 18:58:34 [ LAUGHTER ].
09/24/09 18:58:39 .
09/24/09 18:58:40 >> OKAY.
09/24/09 18:58:40 PETITIONER?
09/24/09 18:58:43 >>
09/24/09 18:58:46 GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS
09/24/09 18:58:47 MAGGIE LIFTIE.
09/24/09 18:58:49 I LIVE AT 2605 DURAN TRAILS,
09/24/09 18:58:51 DOVER FLORIDA, AND I WOULD LIKE
09/24/09 18:58:52 TO RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU
09/24/09 18:58:55 APPROVE AND WE CAN MOVE ON WITH
09/24/09 18:58:55 THIS PROJECT.
09/24/09 18:58:56 THANK YOU.
09/24/09 18:58:59 >> ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH
09/24/09 18:59:01 TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ON THE
09/24/09 18:59:02 PROJECT?
09/24/09 18:59:04 >> CLOSED.
09/24/09 18:59:04 >> SECOND.
09/24/09 18:59:05 >> THIRD.
09/24/09 18:59:06 >> OKAY.
09/24/09 18:59:07 MOVE TO SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR
09/24/09 18:59:10 SIGNIFY FWI SAYING AYE.
09/24/09 18:59:13 >>
09/24/09 18:59:14 AYE.
09/24/09 18:59:15 >> SO OPPOSES?
09/24/09 18:59:16 >> OKAY.
09/24/09 18:59:19 >> 4205
09/24/09 18:59:22 AND 42015 IN THE CITY
09/24/09 18:59:23 OF
09/24/09 18:59:25 TAMPA FLA, PD PLANNED
09/24/09 18:59:27 DEVELOPMENT RESTAURANT RETAIL
09/24/09 18:59:30 SALES CONVENIENCE GOODS TO
09/24/09 18:59:31 PD
09/24/09 18:59:32 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESTAURANT
09/24/09 18:59:34 RETAIL SALES PROVIDED AN
09/24/09 18:59:35 EFFECTIVE DATE AND ADD ALL OF
09/24/09 18:59:38 THE ADDITIONS THAT YOU
09/24/09 18:59:44 HAVE PUT
09/24/09 18:59:45 ON HERE.
09/24/09 18:59:46 Z09-19.
09/24/09 18:59:48 >> ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
09/24/09 18:59:49 SAYING AYE.
09/24/09 18:59:50 >> AYE.
09/24/09 18:59:52 >> MOTIONS CARRIED SECOND
09/24/09 18:59:55 READING WILL BE ON OCTOBER 15th
09/24/09 18:59:55 AT 9:30 A.M.
09/24/09 18:59:56 >> ITEM 230.
09/24/09 18:59:59 20.
09/24/09 19:00:01 >> CAME ONE.
09/24/09 19:00:02 >> IT'S THE SAME ONE.
09/24/09 19:00:05 >>
09/24/09 19:00:11 SAME ONE, BUT A DIFFERENT --
09/24/09 19:00:14 >> DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND
09/24/09 19:00:16 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
09/24/09 19:00:19 THE NEXT ITEM ON THE PETITION IS
09/24/09 19:00:22 ZOO 09-329 FOR THE
09/24/09 19:00:22 PROPERTY
09/24/09 19:00:25 LOCATED AT 4205
09/24/09 19:00:26 AND 4215 NORTH
09/24/09 19:00:27 ARMENIA AVENUE.
09/24/09 19:00:28 IT'S PD.
09/24/09 19:00:30 REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE FOR
09/24/09 19:00:32 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL
09/24/09 19:00:35 VENUE, 2 COPR WHICH WOULD ALLOW
09/24/09 19:00:37 FOR SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES
09/24/09 19:00:38 FOR CONSUMPTION ON THE PREMISES
09/24/09 19:00:42 ONLY IN CONJUNCTION
09/24/09 19:00:43 WITH THE
09/24/09 19:00:44 RESTAURANT LOCATION.
09/24/09 19:00:47 THIS IS THE RERESTAURANT
09/24/09 19:00:50 LOCATION AS WAS PREVIOUSLY
09/24/09 19:00:51 HEARD.
09/24/09 19:00:52 THERE ARE 29 PARKING SPACES
09/24/09 19:00:55 LOCATED ON SITE WHILE 28 ARE
09/24/09 19:00:58 REQUIRED.
09/24/09 19:01:00 A WAIVER HAS BEING REQUESTED FOR
09/24/09 19:01:01 THE DEFICIENCY.
09/24/09 19:01:04 I HAVE AN AERIAL OF THE SITE.
09/24/09 19:01:05 AND THIS IS THE RESTAURANT
09/24/09 19:01:06 LOCATED IN BLUE THAT THE REQUEST
09/24/09 19:01:09 IS FOR
09/24/09 19:01:11 TONIGHT FOR THEIR ALCOHOL
09/24/09 19:01:12 SALES.
09/24/09 19:01:15 AND THEN THE PICTURES
09/24/09 19:01:18 OF THE
09/24/09 19:01:19 SITE, I HAVE THOSE.
09/24/09 19:01:22 SORRY
09/24/09 19:01:23 .
09/24/09 19:01:26 THAT'S THE
09/24/09 19:01:28 SITE THERE.
09/24/09 19:01:29 ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SITE.
09/24/09 19:01:32 AND THIS IS NEXT TO
09/24/09 19:01:35 IT AND THIS
09/24/09 19:01:36 IS THE PARKING.
09/24/09 19:01:42 THE DEVELOPMENT
09/24/09 19:01:42 REVIEW COMMITTEE
09/24/09 19:01:46 HAS REVIEWED THE
09/24/09 19:01:47 PETITION AND
09/24/09 19:01:49 FINDS IT INCONSISTENT WITH THE
09/24/09 19:01:50 REGULATIONS HOWEVER THE
09/24/09 19:01:52 REQUESTED MODIFICATIONS ARE MADE
09/24/09 19:01:53 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
09/24/09 19:01:54 READINGS STAFF WILL FIND THE
09/24/09 19:01:55 REQUEST CONSISTENT.
09/24/09 19:01:58 I HAVE ALSO HANDED
09/24/09 19:02:01 OUT
09/24/09 19:02:02 A SHEET
09/24/09 19:02:03 ENTITLED Z 09-329.
09/24/09 19:02:04 THE PETITIONER HAS AGREED TO
09/24/09 19:02:06 MAKE THE CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST
09/24/09 19:02:08 AND SECOND READING AND THIS
09/24/09 19:02:08 CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.
09/24/09 19:02:11 I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU
09/24/09 19:02:14 HAVE
09/24/09 19:02:17 ANY
09/24/09 19:02:18 QUESTIONS.
09/24/09 19:02:19 >> OFFICER MILLER.
09/24/09 19:02:22 >> CITY OF TAMPA POLICE
09/24/09 19:02:26 DEPARTMENT HAS NO OBJECTIONS.
09/24/09 19:02:27 >> PETITIONER?
09/24/09 19:02:30 >>
09/24/09 19:02:32 MAGGIE LIFTIE, 2605, DURAN
09/24/09 19:02:34 TRAIL, DOVER, FLORIDA, AND I
09/24/09 19:02:37 HAVE BEEN SWORN, AND I PLEAD
09/24/09 19:02:38 OF
09/24/09 19:02:39 YOU TO PLEASE APPROVE THIS.
09/24/09 19:02:40 THANK YOU.
09/24/09 19:02:43 >> ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH
09/24/09 19:02:43 TO ADDRESS COUNCIL?
09/24/09 19:02:44 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC.
09/24/09 19:02:45 MOVED.
09/24/09 19:02:46 >> SECOND.
09/24/09 19:02:49 >> SIGNIFY
09/24/09 19:02:51 BY SAYING AYE.
09/24/09 19:02:51 >> AYE.
09/24/09 19:02:52 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09/24/09 19:02:55 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AN
09/24/09 19:02:56 ORDINANCE APPROVE A SPECIAL USE
09/24/09 19:03:00 PERMIT S 2
09/24/09 19:03:02 FOR ALCOHOLIC
09/24/09 19:03:04 BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE, 1%
09/24/09 19:03:07 BY WAIT NOT MORE THAN 15% BY
09/24/09 19:03:10 WEIGHT AND WINES REGARDLESS
09/24/09 19:03:11 OF
09/24/09 19:03:13 ALCOHOLIC CONTENT 2 COPR FOR
09/24/09 19:03:14 CONSUMPTION ON THE PREMISES ONLY
09/24/09 19:03:16 IN CONNECTION WITH A RESTAURANT
09/24/09 19:03:17 BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENT ON THAT
09/24/09 19:03:20 CERTAIN LOT, PLOT, OR TRACT
09/24/09 19:03:21 OF
09/24/09 19:03:24 LAND LOCATED AT 4205 AND
09/24/09 19:03:26 4215
09/24/09 19:03:28 NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE IN FLORIDA.
09/24/09 19:03:30 PROVIDING FOR APPEAL OF ALL
09/24/09 19:03:33 ORDINANCES AND PROVIDING A
09/24/09 19:03:36 EFFECTIVE DATE AND INCLUDING
09/24/09 19:03:36 Z
09/24/09 19:03:39 09-329 THE SITE PLAN REVISIONS
09/24/09 19:03:41 SHEET AGREED TO BY THE
09/24/09 19:03:41 PETITIONER.
09/24/09 19:03:44 >> MOVE AND SECOND
09/24/09 19:03:45 AND SECONDED
09/24/09 19:03:47 BY COUNSELMAN DING FLDER.
09/24/09 19:03:50 ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
09/24/09 19:03:51 SAYING
09/24/09 19:03:51 AYE.
09/24/09 19:03:52 >> AYE.
09/24/09 19:03:52 >> OPPOSES?
09/24/09 19:03:54 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH MULHERN
09/24/09 19:03:57 BEING AND SEPTEMBER, SECOND
09/24/09 19:04:00 READING AND
09/24/09 19:04:03 ADOPTION
09/24/09 19:04:04 WILL BE
09/24/09 19:04:07 OCTOBER
09/24/09 19:04:07 15th.
09/24/09 19:04:08 >>> NEXT ITEM IS ITEM 21.
09/24/09 19:04:17 .
09/24/09 19:04:19 >> COUNCIL ABBEY, FIELD
09/24/09 19:04:20 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
09/24/09 19:04:23 FINAL ITEM BEFORE YOU
09/24/09 19:04:23 IS LOCATED
09/24/09 19:04:26 AT 3822 AND
09/24/09 19:04:28 3824 SOUTH HIMES
09/24/09 19:04:29 AVENUE.
09/24/09 19:04:30 >> BRITON PLAZA.
09/24/09 19:04:30 >>.
09/24/09 19:04:33 >> RIGHT BEHIND
09/24/09 19:04:34 BRITON PLAZA.
09/24/09 19:04:37 >> TO GIVE EVERYBODY A FRAME OF
09/24/09 19:04:37 REFERENCE.
09/24/09 19:04:40 >> THE REQUEST IS FROM CG TO PD
09/24/09 19:04:41 FOR COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES ON
09/24/09 19:04:43 LOT A AND B AND SINGLE FAMILY
09/24/09 19:04:45 RESIDENTIAL USE ON LOT B.
09/24/09 19:04:47 THERE ARE SEVERAL WAIVERS
09/24/09 19:04:48 ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST.
09/24/09 19:04:51 THE FIRST IS TO REDUCE THE
09/24/09 19:04:52 REQUIRED VEHICLE USE AREA GREEN
09/24/09 19:04:55 SPACE ALONG RAMBLE AVENUE
09/24/09 19:04:56 FROM 8
09/24/09 19:05:00 FEET TO ZERO FEET TO BE
09/24/09 19:05:00 PRIOR TO
09/24/09 19:05:00 PERMITTING.
09/24/09 19:05:02 27242 TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF
09/24/09 19:05:05 REQUIRED PARKING SPACES FROM 8
09/24/09 19:05:06 TO 3.
09/24/09 19:05:07 27246 TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL
09/24/09 19:05:10 TRAFFIC TO
09/24/09 19:05:11 ACCESS A LOCAL
09/24/09 19:05:12 STREET, RANDALL AVENUE.
09/24/09 19:05:14 27324, 1 D 1 TO ALLOW THE
09/24/09 19:05:16 REDUCTION OF THE SOLID WASTE
09/24/09 19:05:19 BUFFER ON THE EAST SIDE OF
09/24/09 19:05:19 LOT
09/24/09 19:05:19 5.
09/24/09 19:05:22 TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED 15th FOOT
09/24/09 19:05:25 BUFFER WITH A
09/24/09 19:05:28 6 FOOT
09/24/09 19:05:28 MASONRY
09/24/09 19:05:30 WALL WITH A PVC FENCE.
09/24/09 19:05:32 I'M GOING TO TALK OFF THE CUFF
09/24/09 19:05:33 AND EXPLAIN WHAT'S GOING ON ON
09/24/09 19:05:36 THIS PROPERTY AS I GIVE
09/24/09 19:05:38 YOU THE
09/24/09 19:05:38 PRESENTATION.
09/24/09 19:05:41 THIS IS THE PROPERTY ON
09/24/09 19:05:42 SOUTH
09/24/09 19:05:42 HIMES.
09/24/09 19:05:43 YOU'LL SEE IT HERE.
09/24/09 19:05:45 TRADITIONAL AS YOU KNOW, IT
09/24/09 19:05:48 REQUIRES 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
09/24/09 19:05:50 SO THIS SA NONCONFORMING.
09/24/09 19:05:53 THESE TWO LOTS ARE
09/24/09 19:05:54 NONCONFORMING.
09/24/09 19:05:55 THEY WERE BROUGHT TOGETHER
09/24/09 19:05:56 THROUGH A ZONING COVENANT.
09/24/09 19:05:57 WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO
09/24/09 19:06:00 THROUGH THE PD IS RETAIN THE
09/24/09 19:06:01 COMMERCIAL GENERAL ENTITLEMENTS
09/24/09 19:06:03 BUT TO ACTUALLY SEPARATE THE
09/24/09 19:06:04 LOTS SO THEY CAN FUNCTION
09/24/09 19:06:05 INDEPENDENTLY.
09/24/09 19:06:06 AND THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE THE PD
09/24/09 19:06:09 WITH A SHEET A AND A SHEET B OR
09/24/09 19:06:10 ONE FOR THE PARCEL TO THE NORTH
09/24/09 19:06:13 AND ONE FOR THE PARCEL TO
09/24/09 19:06:14 THE
09/24/09 19:06:14 SOUTH.
09/24/09 19:06:17 YOU CAN SEE BRITON PLAZA TO THE
09/24/09 19:06:19 WEST, THERE'S A POT-BELLIED
09/24/09 19:06:21 FAMILY RESTAURANT TO THE SOUTH,
09/24/09 19:06:23 CROSS COUNSEL EXPRESSWAY OVER TO
09/24/09 19:06:26 THE EAST --CROSSTOWN
09/24/09 19:06:27 EXPRESSWAY
09/24/09 19:06:30 OVER TO
09/24/09 19:06:31 THE EAST.
09/24/09 19:06:34 I'LL SHOW YOU EVERYTHING
09/24/09 19:06:37 SURROUNDING, IT'S
09/24/09 19:06:39 PRO DOMINANTLY
09/24/09 19:06:40 COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
09/24/09 19:06:41 THEN YOU HAVE EAR CG WHERE BRIT
09/24/09 19:06:44 OPPOSES PLAZA IS, TO
09/24/09 19:06:46 THE SOUTH,
09/24/09 19:06:49 SOME DRIPPINGS OF
09/24/09 19:06:52 CG, AND RS-50
09/24/09 19:06:54 AND RS-60.
09/24/09 19:06:56 SO R 0 R ONE ALLOW EUCLID.
09/24/09 19:07:00 THIS IS THE NORTHERN PART
09/24/09 19:07:03 OF THE
09/24/09 19:07:04 PD.
09/24/09 19:07:04 IT HAS BEEN RENOVATED.
09/24/09 19:07:06 THIS IS THE SOUTHERN PIECE WHICH
09/24/09 19:07:09 HAS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND A
09/24/09 19:07:11 COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT SO
09/24/09 19:07:11 IT'S NONCONFORMING.
09/24/09 19:07:13 IT WILL CONTINUE THAT WAY UNDER
09/24/09 19:07:16 THE PD OR
09/24/09 19:07:19 POTENTIALLY BE
09/24/09 19:07:21 CONVERTED FOR CG USES.
09/24/09 19:07:22 POT-BELLY RETS RESTAURANT.
09/24/09 19:07:25 THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON HIMES
09/24/09 19:07:27 TOWARD THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
09/24/09 19:07:29 THIS IS THE HOUSE IMMEDIATELY TO
09/24/09 19:07:29 THE EAST.
09/24/09 19:07:33 YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE BIT
09/24/09 19:07:33 OF
09/24/09 19:07:34 PVC FENCE THERE.
09/24/09 19:07:37 THIS IS AT THE --WHEN YOU --
09/24/09 19:07:38 RAND L AVENUE IS SHORT.
09/24/09 19:07:40 WHEN YOU GO ON TO RANDALL, THIS
09/24/09 19:07:43 IS THE HOUSE AT THE END
09/24/09 19:07:45 OF THE
09/24/09 19:07:46 STREET THAT FACES YOU.
09/24/09 19:07:49 AND THIS IS THE NORTH SIDE OF
09/24/09 19:07:52 RANDALL AND HIMES SO YOU CAN
09/24/09 19:07:53 SEE
09/24/09 19:07:53 COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES.
09/24/09 19:07:56 THIS IS FACING
09/24/09 19:07:57 HIMES.
09/24/09 19:08:00 THIS IS THE SAME STRUCKURE
09/24/09 19:08:01 ON
09/24/09 19:08:02 THE RANDALL PORTION.
09/24/09 19:08:05 AND THIS IS THE BACK OF BRITON
09/24/09 19:08:06 PLAZA WHICH INTERFACE WITHSTAND
09/24/09 19:08:07 THIS.
09/24/09 19:08:08 STAFF HAD TECHNICAL ISSUES.
09/24/09 19:08:11 YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT
09/24/09 19:08:12 ABOUT THE WAY THAT THE DRIVEWAY
09/24/09 19:08:15 FOR THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THIS
09/24/09 19:08:17 SITE WAS CONFIGURED ON THE SITE
09/24/09 19:08:18 PLAN YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU.
09/24/09 19:08:21 WE'VE MET WITH THE PETITIONER
09/24/09 19:08:24 SEVERAL TIMES UP UNTIL
09/24/09 19:08:25 THE
09/24/09 19:08:28 HEARING AND WE HAVE REWORKED,
09/24/09 19:08:29 WE
09/24/09 19:08:30 HAVE REWORKED WHAT WAS CONTAINED
09/24/09 19:08:33 IN YOUR STAFF REPORT TO HAVE A
09/24/09 19:08:36 HAMMER HEAD WITH
09/24/09 19:08:37 TWO PARKING
09/24/09 19:08:38 SPACES AND ADEQUATE BACKOUT FOR
09/24/09 19:08:39 THOSE SPACES.
09/24/09 19:08:41 IN THE STAFF REPORT AND ON THE
09/24/09 19:08:43 REVISION SHEET I GIVE YOU SHOULD
09/24/09 19:08:45 COUNCIL BE INCLINED TO APPROVE
09/24/09 19:08:47 THIS THIS EVENING IT DOES REEEFR
09/24/09 19:08:50 TO THE REDESIGN OF THE
09/24/09 19:08:52 PARKING
09/24/09 19:08:53 AREA WITH THE INSTALLATION OF
09/24/09 19:08:54 THE SIDEWALK.
09/24/09 19:08:55 GIVEN THE TIME LINE WE DIDN'T
09/24/09 19:08:56 HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO PUT THIS IN
09/24/09 19:08:58 AND PROPERLY PROCESS IT PRIOR TO
09/24/09 19:08:59 THE HEARING SO WE WENT AHEAD AND
09/24/09 19:09:00 DISCUSSED IT, MADE SURE
09/24/09 19:09:02 EVERYTHING FUNCTIONED AND THIS
09/24/09 19:09:05 IS WHAT WE WILL RECOMMEND
09/24/09 19:09:06 IN
09/24/09 19:09:09 ADDITION TO A NUMBER OF COUPLE
09/24/09 19:09:09 OTHER REVISIONS.
09/24/09 19:09:11 I HAVE SENT THIS REVISION SHEET
09/24/09 19:09:14 WITH THE ATTACHED REDESIGN TO
09/24/09 19:09:15 THE PETITIONER'S REPRESENTATIVE,
09/24/09 19:09:17 MR. GARDNER, AND HE HAS SEEN IT
09/24/09 19:09:19 AND REVIEWED, I BELIEVE HE IS
09/24/09 19:09:22 AGREEABLE TO ALL ITEMS ON,
09/24/09 19:09:23 ON
09/24/09 19:09:23 THAT REVIEW SHEET.
09/24/09 19:09:25 THAT BEING SAID, I BELIEVE THAT
09/24/09 19:09:28 THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF
09/24/09 19:09:29 EVERYTHING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
09/24/09 19:09:31 TRANSPORTATION, WHICH FINDS THE
09/24/09 19:09:32 REDUCTION OF THE PARKING TO BE
09/24/09 19:09:36 EXCESSIVE AS IT IS 88%
09/24/09 19:09:39 OF THE
09/24/09 19:09:39 REQUIRED PARKING.
09/24/09 19:09:41 >> COUNCILWOMAN SAUL-SENA.
09/24/09 19:09:42 >>.
09/24/09 19:09:43 >> Ms. Saul-Sena: AND MAYBE THIS
09/24/09 19:09:44 IS A QUESTION WHEN THE
09/24/09 19:09:45 PETITIONER COMES UP MUCH THE
09/24/09 19:09:46 PEOPLE WHO LIVES IN THE SINGLE
09/24/09 19:09:49 FAMILY HOME THAT IS GOING
09/24/09 19:09:50 TO BE
09/24/09 19:09:52 ZONED COMMERCIAL, DOES HE
09/24/09 19:09:53 UNDERSTAND THAT THE ZONING IS
09/24/09 19:09:56 NOT SUPPORT --THAT THERE'S A
09/24/09 19:09:56 DISCONNECT BETWEEN WHAT THEIR
09/24/09 19:09:59 USE IS AND WHAT THIR ZONING WILL
09/24/09 19:10:00 BE.
09/24/09 19:10:01 >> WELL, ACTUALLY IT'S ZONED
09/24/09 19:10:04 COMMERCIAL GENERAL RIGHT
09/24/09 19:10:05 NOW SO
09/24/09 19:10:06 THEY'RE NONCONFORMING WITH THEIR
09/24/09 19:10:08 SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE RIGHT NOW.
09/24/09 19:10:10 WITH THIS PD THEY'RE GOING TO
09/24/09 19:10:12 INVEST THEIR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE
09/24/09 19:10:15 BY ALLOWING THAT A USE ON THE
09/24/09 19:10:16 PD.
09/24/09 19:10:18 >> I'M GOING TO PASS THE
09/24/09 19:10:21 REVISION
09/24/09 19:10:24 SHEET OUT WHILE
09/24/09 19:10:25 MR. GARCIA SPEAKS.
09/24/09 19:10:26 >> MR. GARCIA.
09/24/09 19:10:29 >> TONY GARCIA, PLANNING
09/24/09 19:10:31 COMMISSION STAFF, I HAVE BEEN
09/24/09 19:10:32 SWORN.
09/24/09 19:10:34 I'D LIKE TO GO OFF OF WHAT
09/24/09 19:10:35 MS. FEELY STATED TO YOU AND
09/24/09 19:10:37 SUPPORT THE LAST COUPLE OF
09/24/09 19:10:39 STATEMENT SHE MADE.
09/24/09 19:10:42 AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS
09/24/09 19:10:43 IS
09/24/09 19:10:44 COMMUNITY MIX USE-35 WHICH
09/24/09 19:10:45 ALOUDZ NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL
09/24/09 19:10:47 USES RESIDENTIAL OFFICE USES AND
09/24/09 19:10:49 YOU AS YOU CAN SEE IT EXTENDS
09/24/09 19:10:51 ALL THE WAY ACTUALLY INTO THIS
09/24/09 19:10:52 STREET OF SOUTH RANDALL.
09/24/09 19:10:54 IF YOU LOOK WITH YOUR ZONING MAP
09/24/09 19:10:56 YOU'LL NOTICE AS WELL AS THIS
09/24/09 19:10:57 ALREADY HAVING AN EXISTING
09/24/09 19:10:59 ZONING OF CG AND NOW GOING TO PD
09/24/09 19:11:02 AS YOU GO TO THE EAST AND
09/24/09 19:11:03 LOOK
09/24/09 19:11:06 AT ZONING CATEGORIES, THESE
09/24/09 19:11:08 PARCELS TO THE EAST HAD ZONING
09/24/09 19:11:09 WITH RESIDENTIAL OFFICE.
09/24/09 19:11:12 IT'S GOING TO BE A LOWERING
09/24/09 19:11:13 INTENSITY WITH THE TWO PARSELESS
09/24/09 19:11:16 ON THE SITE TO MAKE THEM MORE
09/24/09 19:11:17 FUNCTIONALLY CORRECT AND IN
09/24/09 19:11:20 COMPLIANCE WITH A COMPREHENSIVE
09/24/09 19:11:21 PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
09/24/09 19:11:24 AS FAR AS THE
09/24/09 19:11:26 CONTEXT OF THE
09/24/09 19:11:27 AREAS IN PROXIMITY TO THE
09/24/09 19:11:29 PARKWAY, BRITON PLAZA TO THE
09/24/09 19:11:31 LEFT, HOME OF THE OLD PUB WHICH
09/24/09 19:11:34 I'M SURE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TO ONE
09/24/09 19:11:37 OR TWO TIMES, AND ALSO HOME TO
09/24/09 19:11:40 THE BRITON PLAZA THEATRE
09/24/09 19:11:40 WHICH
09/24/09 19:11:41 THANKFULLY HAS REOPENED
09/24/09 19:11:42 RECENTLY.
09/24/09 19:11:43 BEEN AROUND FOR PAST 45 YEARS,
09/24/09 19:11:44 PROBABLY, AT LEAST.
09/24/09 19:11:47 SO THERE'S A LOT OF
09/24/09 19:11:48 FOND
09/24/09 19:11:51 MEMORIES WITH
09/24/09 19:11:54 THE BRITON PLAZA
09/24/09 19:11:54 THEATRE IS CONCERNED.
09/24/09 19:11:59 >> PETITIONER.
09/24/09 19:12:10 TRUETT GARDNER, ABBEY AND TONY
09/24/09 19:12:12 HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB.
09/24/09 19:12:15 THIS IS A MAJOR
09/24/09 19:12:16 CLEANUP EFFORT.
09/24/09 19:12:19 20 YEARS AGO, THIS PROPERTY WAS
09/24/09 19:12:21 SUBDIVIDED, JUST TO SHOW YOU
09/24/09 19:12:25 WHAT IT
09/24/09 19:12:27 LOOKED LIKE ORIGINALLY
09/24/09 19:12:28 ON A PLAT.
09/24/09 19:12:31 IT IS ONE EVER THE
09/24/09 19:12:32 ODDEST SHAPED
09/24/09 19:12:34 LOTS YOU'VE EVER SEEN.
09/24/09 19:12:36 THAT WAS SPLIT INTO THREE.
09/24/09 19:12:39 ON THE SOUTH END IS
09/24/09 19:12:42 WHERE POPPA
09/24/09 19:12:43 IS CURRENTLY IS.
09/24/09 19:12:46 IN THE MIDDLE IS THE RESIDENCE,
09/24/09 19:12:49 AND THEN LOT A
09/24/09 19:12:52 IS WHERE THE
09/24/09 19:12:52 INSURANCE OFFICE IS.
09/24/09 19:12:54 AND AS ABBEY SAID IT DOES NOT
09/24/09 19:12:55 CONFIRM SIZE-WISE AND THIS IS AN
09/24/09 19:12:58 EFFORT TO DO THE PD TO CORRECT
09/24/09 19:13:01 IT ALL AS AN INTERIM BANDAID
09/24/09 19:13:02 SOLUTION.
09/24/09 19:13:03 WE DID A ZONING COVENANT MERGING
09/24/09 19:13:05 THE TWO SITES TOGETHER SO THE
09/24/09 19:13:06 OWNER OF LOT A COULD GO AHEAD
09/24/09 19:13:08 AND DO THE RESTORATION WORK FOR
09/24/09 19:13:09 THE INSURANCE OFFICE SO THIS IS
09/24/09 19:13:12 THE EFFORT TO BREAK THOSE TWO
09/24/09 19:13:13 APART JUST SO LEGALLY IN THE
09/24/09 19:13:14 FUTURE THEY CAN TRANSFER OF LOTS
09/24/09 19:13:17 IF ONE PERSON WERE TO GET INTO
09/24/09 19:13:19 ZONING TROUBLE IT WON'T INFLICT
09/24/09 19:13:21 ON THE OTHER PERSON.
09/24/09 19:13:24 AND SINCE TONY HAS BEEN
09/24/09 19:13:25 TALKING
09/24/09 19:13:26 TRIVIA, WHERE'S THE MODEL
09/24/09 19:13:27 TRAINS.
09/24/09 19:13:30 >> THAT'S MY QUESTION.
09/24/09 19:13:31 THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE.
09/24/09 19:13:32 THE OLD CHESTER HIGHWAY TRAIN
09/24/09 19:13:33 STORE IS RIGHT THERE.
09/24/09 19:13:35 >> BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.
09/24/09 19:13:35 EXACTLY.
09/24/09 19:13:37 >> THAT WAS JUST PROPERTY SOLD
09/24/09 19:13:37 SIX MONTHS AGO.
09/24/09 19:13:40 >> I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
09/24/09 19:13:43 AND ACTUALLY YOU'LL BE
09/24/09 19:13:45 SEEING
09/24/09 19:13:46 THEM IN THE NEXT WHILE.
09/24/09 19:13:47 BUT THAT'S THE GENERAL REQUEST.
09/24/09 19:13:49 BASICALLY IT SERVES TWO
09/24/09 19:13:51 FUNCTIONS, ONE TO MAKE THE TWO
09/24/09 19:13:53 LOTS INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER,
09/24/09 19:13:56 SECOND WHICH IS ACTUALLY LINDA'S
09/24/09 19:13:57 QUESTION, IS AT PRESENT THE
09/24/09 19:14:00 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WOULD
09/24/09 19:14:02 BE
09/24/09 19:14:03 A SPECIAL USE UNDER CG AND GO
09/24/09 19:14:06 AHEAD AND VEST THEM THROUGH THE
09/24/09 19:14:07 PD PROCESS.
09/24/09 19:14:10 AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST
09/24/09 19:14:11 WE HAVE
09/24/09 19:14:14 ACTUALLY PRETTY AMAZING BEING IN
09/24/09 19:14:17 SOUTH TAMPA PRETTY
09/24/09 19:14:17 DENSE AREA.
09/24/09 19:14:19 ONLY 11 SEPARATE PROPERTY
09/24/09 19:14:20 PARCELS AND RECEIVED LETTERS OF
09/24/09 19:14:22 SUPPORT BACK FROM FOUR OF THE
09/24/09 19:14:22 11.
09/24/09 19:14:24 SO I HAVE THOSE TO TURN IN.
09/24/09 19:14:25 >> MR. SHELBY.
09/24/09 19:14:26 >> Mr. Shelby: JUST A QUESTION
09/24/09 19:14:29 WHEN MR. GARDNER GETS BACK TO
09/24/09 19:14:30 THE MICROPHONE.
09/24/09 19:14:31 MS. FEELY MADE REFERENCE TO THE
09/24/09 19:14:32 REVISION SHEET.
09/24/09 19:14:34 DO YOU AGREE TO THE REVISIONS
09/24/09 19:14:35 AND MAKE THOSE BETWEEN FIRST AND
09/24/09 19:14:36 SECOND READINGS.
09/24/09 19:14:37 >> THOSE ARE FINE.
09/24/09 19:14:40 THE ONLY THING I REQUEST IS
09/24/09 19:14:40 WITH
09/24/09 19:14:42 THE CHANGE IN THE DRIVEWAY, WE
09/24/09 19:14:43 JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME TO
09/24/09 19:14:44 MAKE THAT CHANGE AHEAD OF TIME
09/24/09 19:14:46 BUT WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO
09/24/09 19:14:48 MAKE THAT BETWEEN FIRST AND
09/24/09 19:14:50 SECOND READING.
09/24/09 19:14:51 >> Mr. Shelby: THANK YOU.
09/24/09 19:14:54 >> ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC
09/24/09 19:14:55 WANT
09/24/09 19:14:56 TO SPEAK ON THIS?
09/24/09 19:14:57 MOVE.
09/24/09 19:14:58 >> ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION
09/24/09 19:14:59 SAY AYE.
09/24/09 19:15:00 >> AYE.
09/24/09 19:15:00 >> OPPOSE SAY NAY.
09/24/09 19:15:04 >>
09/24/09 19:15:06 CAN YOU READ THAT?
09/24/09 19:15:07 >> SURE.
09/24/09 19:15:10 MOVE AN ORDINANCE REPRESENTING
09/24/09 19:15:13 THE PROPERTY OF 3822 AND 3824
09/24/09 19:15:16 SOUTH HIMES AVENUE IN THE TAMPA
09/24/09 19:15:19 FLORIDA FROM CG TO PD PLANNED
09/24/09 19:15:20 DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL GENERAL
09/24/09 19:15:23 USES, LOT A AND B SINGLE FAMILY
09/24/09 19:15:26 RESIDENTIAL, LOT B PROVIDING AN
09/24/09 19:15:26 EFFECTIVE DATE.
09/24/09 19:15:28 >> MOTION IS SECONDED ALL IN
09/24/09 19:15:31 FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY
09/24/09 19:15:31 AYE.
09/24/09 19:15:32 >> AYE.
09/24/09 19:15:32 >> OPPOSE NAY?
09/24/09 19:15:34 >> MOTION CARRIED, SECOND
09/24/09 19:15:35 READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON
09/24/09 19:15:36 OCTOBER THE 15th AT 9:30 A.M.
09/24/09 19:15:38 >> MOVED TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
09/24/09 19:15:39 >> SECOND.
09/24/09 19:15:41 >> ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION
09/24/09 19:15:42 SAY AYE.
09/24/09 19:15:44 >> AYE.
09/24/09 19:15:45 >> OPPOSED?
09/24/09 19:15:46 >> THANK YOU.
09/24/09 19:15:48 >> Ms. Saul-Sena: A QUICK ITEM
09/24/09 19:15:49 OF NEW BUSINESS.
09/24/09 19:15:50 I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST UNDER
09/24/09 19:15:53 STAFF REPORTS FOR THE SECOND
09/24/09 19:15:56 MEETING IN OCTOBER A REPORT ON
09/24/09 19:15:58 THE RULES GOVERNING PARKING LOT
09/24/09 19:15:59 DOWNTOWN, WHETHER THEY HAVE TO
09/24/09 19:16:01 BE PAVED, WHAT THE TIME FRAME IS
09/24/09 19:16:03 THAT THEY HAVE TO BE PAVED, AND
09/24/09 19:16:06 IF WE ARE IN FACT ENFORCING OUR
09/24/09 19:16:06 RULES.
09/24/09 19:16:09 SO THAT WOULD BE A STAFF REPORT
09/24/09 19:16:12 TO APPEAR AND REPORT FROM
09/24/09 19:16:13 STAFF
09/24/09 19:16:15 THE SECOND MEETING IN OCTOBER.
09/24/09 19:16:17 >> MOVED AND SECOND.
09/24/09 19:16:19 ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING
09/24/09 19:16:22 AYE.
09/24/09 19:16:23 >> AYE.
09/24/09 19:16:23 >> OPPOSES?
09/24/09 19:16:25 >> OKAY.
09/24/09 19:16:27 >> Mr. Dingfelder: I THINK A
09/24/09 19:16:30 WEEK AGO I DID A
09/24/09 19:16:30 MOTION ABOUT
09/24/09 19:16:32 THE HIGH SPEED RAIL AND THE
09/24/09 19:16:34 COUNCIL WOULD SUPPORT THE HIGH
09/24/09 19:16:35 SPEED RAIL INITIATIVE AS IT GOES
09/24/09 19:16:36 TO WASHINGTON AND WE'RE GOING TO
09/24/09 19:16:38 BE ASKING FOR A LOT OF MONEY TO
09/24/09 19:16:39 DO THAT.
09/24/09 19:16:41 MR. SHELBY HAS DONE A LOT OF
09/24/09 19:16:43 WORK AND HAS COME BACK ON A
09/24/09 19:16:46 RESOLUTION THAT HE'S PASSED OUT
09/24/09 19:16:46 TO YOU.
09/24/09 19:16:48 IT'S SELF EXPLANATORY AND I
09/24/09 19:16:49 WOULD MOVE THE RESOLUTION AND
09/24/09 19:16:51 ASK MR. CHAIRMAN TO SIGN IT AND
09/24/09 19:16:52 GET IT GOING.
09/24/09 19:16:53 >> SECOND.
09/24/09 19:16:54 >> MOVED AND --YES, SIR.
09/24/09 19:16:57 >> IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST
09/24/09 19:16:58 FOR CLARIFICATION SAKE,
09/24/09 19:16:59 MR. DINGFELDER'S MOTION WAS A
09/24/09 19:17:01 LETTER, AND THE PROCESS OF ME
09/24/09 19:17:04 GATHERING INFORMATION AND
09/24/09 19:17:05 I
09/24/09 19:17:07 THANK HIM FOR IT, PROVIDING ME
09/24/09 19:17:08 INFORMATION.
09/24/09 19:17:09 IN THE COURSE PERHAPS A
09/24/09 19:17:10 RESOLUTION MIGHT BE MORE
09/24/09 19:17:12 EFFECTIVE AND I MADE THAT
09/24/09 19:17:15 SUGGESTION AND MR. DINGFELDER
09/24/09 19:17:16 THEN IN EFFECT IS SUB
09/24/09 19:17:18 SUPERSEDING OR AMENDING THIS TO
09/24/09 19:17:19 ALLOW THIS RESOLUTION TO SOLVE
09/24/09 19:17:23 THAT PROBLEM.
09/24/09 19:17:26 >> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
09/24/09 19:17:27 ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING
09/24/09 19:17:28 AYE.
09/24/09 19:17:28 >> AYE.
09/24/09 19:17:29 >> OPPOSES?
09/24/09 19:17:30 >> THANK YOU.
09/24/09 19:17:34 >> ANY OTHER BUSINESS NEED TO
09/24/09 19:17:35 COME BEFORE US?
09/24/09 19:17:36 >> WE STAND ADJOURNED.
09/24/09 19:17:37 THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09/24/09 19:17:38 HAD A GOOD DAY TODAY.
09/24/09 19:17:39 .
09/24/09 19:17:40 [MEETING ADJOURNED].
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