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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING
9 A.M. JUNE 30, 2005

[Sounding gavel]
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Meeting of the Tampa City Council is
called to order. Councilman Dingfelder will proceed with the
invocation.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: It is indeed my honor this morning to
introduce the Reverend Dr. Betsy Styer, the senior pastor at Hyde
Park Church, right across the bridge. She was ordained in 1981 in
Frankfort, Kentucky. She has two daughters, who are here with us
today.
Rise for the invocation, followed by the pledge of
allegiance.
>>REVEREND DR. BETSY STYER: Amazing, Almighty God, we give
you thanks for this day. We ask for your blessing at this
gathering this morning. We ask for your blessings for each of the
officials this morning who have been chosen to guide and to lead.
We ask that you grant them strength for the responsibilities ahead
of them. We pray that you give them wisdom to make decisions. We
give you thanks. We pray that you help us as partners turn
problems into possibilities and obstacles into opportunities.
(Roll call).
Dingfelder here, Saul-Sena here, Harrison here, Alvarez
here, Ferlita here, White here.
>> SHAWN HARRISON: At this time Gwen Miller will present a
commendation.
>> CHAIR GWEN MILLER: At this time I would like to present
a commendation to the MacDonald Training Center. Would the
representative please come forward?
Council members, it is my pleasure to introduce the
MacDonald Training Center, celebrating their 50th year. It is my
pleasure to welcome individuals from the MacDonald Training
Center, to receive this commendation from the City Council,
recognizing the center for 50 years of outstanding service to the
developmentally disabled.
I am honored to serve on the board of directors and have
seen firsthand the wonderful work they are doing. I would like to
stop and say I visited that center and saw the work that these
great men and women are doing at that training center. I would
like to invite you all to come out and see it. MacDonald Training
Center has been very successful in restoring to thousands of our
fellow citizens with disabilities the dignity and respect that
comes with being valued as contributing members of our community.
City Council is proud to make this commendation to MacDonald
Training Center, and we wish them many more successful years.
I would like to present this commendation from the Tampa
City Council to MacDonald Training Center:
"With congratulations for 50 years of outstanding service to
the developmentally disabled and their families.
"Founded on February 25th, 1955, the Center has evolved from
a campus-based organization to one that is a state and national
leader in the development of integral community-based services.
Staff, board members, parents and volunteers at MacDonald Training
Center are commended for providing high-quality communal living,
life enrichment, and service to over 500 individuals annually. We
salute the consumers of MacDonald Training Center for their
preservation and courage in pushing past their disabilities to
pursue the lives that they have chosen."
And it is signed by all the members of City Council. And I














give it to this fine young man here.
>> SPEAKER: We thank you for this wonderful award. We also
thank you, more than that, for the 50 years of cooperation that
the City of Tampa and MacDonald Training Center have experienced
that has made this such a success. And during that period of
time, we have served over 4,000 citizens of Hillsborough County
and the City of Tampa. So we look forward to another 50 years of
cooperation, success. And for everybody at MacDonald Training
Center, the board of directors, the people we're privileged to
serve, and for our staff, we thank you very much for this honor.
(APPLAUSE).
>>ROSE FERLITA: I wonder if you would come up. Madam
Chairman. While we are doing that, I have an announcement. We
were supposed to give out the police officer of the year award
today, and Corporal Larry McKinnon was going to be the one to be
honored. The corporal is out of town and cannot be present this
morning. Therefore, I would like to make a motion to change the
date of his commendation to Thursday, August 25.
[Motion Carried])
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: At this time we will have another
presentation, to Hartline. Linda Saul-Sena?
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Mr. Ray Miller, executive director of
heart, will present this.
>>RAY MILLER: Ray Miller, executive director of Hartline.
And it's my pleasure to be here this morning to recognize
Councilwoman Linda Saul-Sena.
It was my pleasure to meet with council member as part of
the interview process. I started my job in January, and I had the
pleasure of serving with Linda since that time. During that short
period of time I can tell you I was impleased with Linda's vision,
her commitment to the community and certainly her commitment to
transit. So on behalf of staff, members of the board, and
Hartline, we are here to present this very appropriate gift and
token of our appreciation.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you. It was very exciting seeing
the qualified candidates that came to the Hartline board for
selection, and in the selection of Raymond Miller we got a champ.
Hartline provides such a significant service to our community, and
I look forward to its stature in the community escalating under
your leadership, and getting additional resources so it can do the
job that we all know it really needs to do. And I want to thank
you for this award and to agreeing to be our executive director,
and I look forward to many good things in the coming months.
Thanks so much.
>> RAY MILLER: Thank you. One other thing. I would like
to thank the council for appointing John Dingfelder to fulfill
Linda's seat. He has attended a couple of meetings and has
already demonstrated his commitment to Hartline. Thank you very
much.
>>ROSE FERLITA: As soon as you sit down, John will ask her
what he has to do to get such a gift. The people from MacDonald
and Linda are all that are needed for the photo op.
>>SHAWN HARRISON: All right. Enough. Morris Massey, you
are signed up first.
>>MORRIS MASSEY: Morris Massey, legal department. I am
happy to. I would like to postpone hearing Number 77, a
resolution on public ordinance dealing with the abatement in the
Clear Zone and the APZ zone 1, MacDill Air Force Base, to council
after the July 4th holiday. We found a scrivener's error, so we
ask that you move the requested notice to another time.














>>SHAWN HARRISON: Next person is Jason Smith. I don't
recognize that name. I can't read it. All right. We will keep
going. Eric Cotton?
>> ERIC COTTON: Eric Cotton, land development. Request to
walk on WZ 05-04 for wet zoning Hillsborough Avenue for August
25th public hearing for City Council.
>>: So moved.
>>: All in favor say aye. Thank you, Eric.
>>SHAWN HARRISON: David Vaughan?
>> DAVID VAUGHAN: David Vaughan, contract administration.
I'm here on Agenda Item Number 23 which was to request someone to
come and talk about the status of the first floor of old city
hall. I guess I have two pieces of information for you and I
would be happy to entertain questions. The one is that the
relocation of the transportation/computer room, time-frame wise,
we're probably looking for six to nine months before that space
will be available. The move may actually start before the end of
the calendar year, but because it's an ongoing thing, things have
to be in place and can't be shut down.
Second piece of information, as you are aware, the City of
Tampa has been undertaking a municipal office study the past
several months. We are on the verge of receiving the next
deliverable from the consultant, which is to present to us a
number of options for where people ought to be and where space
ought to be used. So we are probably within 30 days of having
that information in hand. And with that, I would be happy to
entertain any specific questions that you have,
>>SHAWN HARRISON: My question was, when the first floor
becomes available, would we have the ability to put a snack bar in
down there, so that people who are coming to our meetings could
have a chance to go down, take a break, and refresh themselves?
And I don't -- I would like the administration to weigh in on that
possibility.
>>DAVID VAUGHAN: Certainly once we get the information next
month there will be more specific data. There are two sets of
issues associated with it. One are the physical constraints of
what you would put in and what the power requirements and whether
you are putting in something that would require a hood and access
issues, security. There are a number of physical issues that
would have to be addressed. Certainly it physically could be
done. Whether it would be cost effective and whether it would
work well would be something else.
The second set of issues is, while we don't have the next
report from a consultant, it is pretty clear that we don't have a
lot of office space currently. So the ability and where folks
ought to go is important.
>>SHAWN HARRISON: Thank you, David. And I don't really see
security as an issue, just speaking for myself. The county center
has a snack bar. They don't have a security issue down there as
far as I'm concerned. The ability of space for city employees,
that is an issue that we should all wrestle with. But this house,
this hall, belongs to everyone in the public, and if you are
coming into here, you are coming in probably because you are
meeting with a council member or legal or else you are coming to a
council meeting. And it would seem like we ought to first and
foremost be serving those who are coming into this building for
business. So I think it's important, and I know we really can't
do more than express our interest in it, but I think we should be
a little bit more open to the public, as opposed to just finding
space for city employees.














>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Mr. Dingfelder?
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Yes. As a quick follow-up. If you do
explore that, of course every one of those in the county
courthouse traditionally has been done by the Division of Blind
Services, so you might want to see if they have any suggestions.
>>DAVID VAUGHAN: We in fact had an operation like that in
TMOB on the third floor.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Thank you. Sal Territo?
>>SAL TERRITO: I'm here on Item Number 57 which is dealing
with a public hearing being set for issuance of bonds. Actually,
public hearing is for the public to have some input on issuance of
bonds for the University of Tampa. There are representatives here
this morning. I didn't know if you wanted to wait until you got
to that item or discuss it now, but they are available if you want
to discuss the item.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Quick question on 57. 57 appears to be
where we are sponsoring bonds for the University of Tampa because
they are going to build some dorms and they need some money, $25
million. Sal, I think the critical thing for us -- for you to
confirm for us and for the public to be aware of, is that this
doesn't cost the city anything, there is no risk to the city, and
that actually, I think you told me the city makes a little money
on this?
>>SAL TERRITO: Yes, there is a fee for doing this for them.
There is no risk to the city. The city's name goes on the bonds.
The city issues the bonds and lends the money to the University of
Tampa. The city bears no responsibility for paying the bonds
back. There will be a letter of credit which will be security for
that particular bond issue. It will give it an A rating or better
which is obviously a very good investment grade rating and the
city does not bear any risk on this particular issue. What is
coming up is for the public to have input on this issue. It is
not actually the issuance of the bonds on the 28th of July.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: So even if there was a complete default
on this, it would not hurt the city or the city's rating?
>>SAL TERRITO: It should not, because I think the people
buying the bonds are sophisticated; the issuers, the insurance
companies and so forth out there are sophisticated that deal with
this city and they know the city is not responsible for these
bonds.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: Mr. Dingfelder, this is called a conduit
bond, and we have done it for several nonprofits in the area,
Tampa Prep was one. It is something we can make a couple of
dollars on, so I think it is a good thing.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you. I know you are not here on
this item, but I bet you know the answer, sir. It is a question
before us. We are signing a contract with Wilson Miller of the
Channel District CRA plan. Do you know how long that contract
runs?
>>SAL TERRITO: I do not. Do you want them to wait for this
issue to come up, or is it all right for them to leave? Do you
have any questions on this matter? No questions? They can leave.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: All right. Lucinda Miller.
>>ROSE FERLITA: I would like to say hello to an old friend,
Mr. Hamilton. Nice to see you, sir.
>>CINDY MILLER: Good morning. I'm Cindy Miller, director
of housing and business development. I'm here on Item 21, which
is a request for city staff to appear regarding a Starbucks
project at 502 East Hillsborough Avenue. What I would also like
to mention for something that is on the calendar later on the














agenda is, for Item 4, there is a time certain at 10 a.m. which
the agenda just has a discussion regarding Historic Preservation
Commission and the Architectural Review Commission process which
was postponed from a June 2nd workshop.
I just want to clarify that item is a condensation of two
more specific motions. The first, regarding the HPC, Historic
Preservation Commission, was to discuss the revisions to the code
that are being contemplated for the Historic Preservation
Commission, and Kate O'Dowd, will be back to discuss that.
The second item for the Architectural Review Commission was
originally a motion to discuss or to do a presentation after an
agenda item dealing with fencing on Bayshore Boulevard. And it
was postponed to today's date. There are some items that may come
before you in the future for that particular item regarding the
ARC presentation, regarding fencing. I would request that council
move that to a date for a council session after August 11th, in
order that we have it in the proper sequence. So I would make
that request on that item when the appropriate time comes up. But
let me now go forward back to Item Number 21, which is the
presentation regarding Starbucks and the Architectural Review
Commission process.
Just some general comments with -- as you all know, I have
now been in this job six months as Director of Housing and
Business Development. I have had a great opportunity to both
travel further around our city and meet with a number of
neighborhood associations, representative of T.H.A.N., residents,
generally, representatives of historic districts, as well as other
parts of our city. And I know one thing that I knew before, just
confirmed it, and that's that neighborhood associations and
particularly the residents of Seminole Heights, have worked
extremely hard at really dedicating themselves to improving their
own homes to, improving their community, to be able to have their
historic district and their neighborhood be a shining example of
what we want our city to be. And I really congratulate them on
their past and encourage their future efforts.
One thing I think has gotten lost in discussion of this
particular item is that the folks that comprise the Architectural
Review Commission commission and boards of this city are also
residents of our city. They care, they work very hard on their
own volunteer time in order to fulfill the mission of their
respective boards.
I think sometimes the difficulty we have in communicating
effectively as city staff is that we do not often make it clear to
the public and the citizens of the neighborhoods as to what the
processes are that new developments are subjected to because of
the historic districts. For that I basically personally
apologize. I'm the director of the departments that need to be
able to communicate that effectively, and I really wish that we
had done that a little bit better over the past few weeks.
That's where I think -- first of all, unfortunately, as I
said, some of the recent discussions has caused us to forget that
the members of the ARC and RPC have worked so hard. They are
looking at Starbucks as an example of the baby finally getting
born. They have gone through severe labor and now the baby is
here. I don't want to necessarily speak for the ARC members, but
they look upon this as the responsibility to make sure that the
baby is healthy and stays that way.
So I will sort of get off the symbolism now, but I think
that what again I need to identify is that the processes and the
guidelines that have been adopted by this council, by the














administration, by staff, and by the ARC, there are certain
guidelines that ARC must follow. There are certain deadlines,
there are certain requirements for submission. And I think
sometimes this can be very confusing to our general public as well
as to the businesses that are becoming established in our city.
One point I do want to make on this particular application
is that it has been a two-step process. The first step that was
before you back in April dealt with the rezoning of the specific
parcel of land, and so therefore, there was a process that the
rezoning had to go through from other city divisions as well as
before the ARC. I think a lot of folks basically felt that with a
rezoning, everything was done as to submittals to the
Architectural Review Commission, but it is a two-step process.
Now the applications going forward is actually the building plans
that are under review for the certificates of appropriateness.
I think what we usually are used to is looking at
modifications to an existing business where all the business that
it would be before the ARC for is a certificate. So I think it
has been a lengthier process than what we have been accustomed to.
At this point, the application for the Starbucks in Seminole
Heights is in the middle of the second stage. So it may or may
not come before council in the future. So from my standpoint, it
is not really appropriate to talk about what comes next
specifically in the Starbucks application. So what I am
submitting to council and what I have distributed to you today are
a number of items, both specific and generic to the process. The
first item is basically a schedule that is made available to the
public as to when various submittals are required, due dates for
those to go to the ARC, as well as when there are design review
meetings, so that staff and board members or commission members
can sit down with applicants to review the plans.
The other is a specific timeline up to this point for the
Starbucks application. So I have given you the application but
again feel it's good to talk about the future.
The other items are basically what I would call a quick
reference, but it's what we give to applicants so that they have
the general idea of what would be required as well as a broader,
lengthier discussion specifically of what the process is, so that
from that standpoint, you have more of the details as well as the
general process.
Let me basically close by emphasizing that city staff and
the administration are constantly looking at ways to improve
process. And that is certainly something that I'm committed to as
I work with my various divisions and boards and commissions that
are part of our jurisdiction.
We at staff also need to do a better job at communicating.
But I also want to emphasize that we want to improve process, and
we want to improve communication, but we want to make sure we do
it without jeopardizing quality. And that is also a key component
that I know we are all interested in.
Thank you, and I would be happy to answer any questions.
>>KEVIN WHITE: Thank you, Ms. Miller. I think you hit the
ball right on the head, that communication is the key, and it
seems like in every administration, every business, everybody
realizes that, but we fail to do it. The community in this
particular issue has made their position strong and clear. And
they have communicated to this council, as well as I'm sure to the
ARC, that this is what they want in their community. This is what
is needed. It will provide jobs, it will provide an anchor for
the neighborhood, and it will provide a nice-looking aesthetic














establishment, as opposed to what is currently on the location.
And I just think if we can communicate or disseminate this
information back to the community, they will be able to go forward
and move on in a positive direction, as far as making some of
these ARC meetings the same way that they came down here and
expressed their opinion in our city council meetings.
You are right. We must do a better job of communicating our
agenda and our meeting dates and scheduled times to our
constituents, so that their voices can continually be heard in not
only this board, but every board that represents the city, even
though it may be a volunteer status, but it is affecting each and
every neighborhood. Those board members need to know what the
neighborhood feels or want in their community. That's where I
think we actually dropped the ball a little bit in the
communication aspect, and we must do whatever we can to bridge
that divide and make this process a little less painstaking for
the constituents as well as elected and/or appointed officials who
serve on these boards.
But thank you for your efforts, and we need to continue to
improve upon this process.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: You want to speak for Mr. Harrison?
>>MARTIN SHELBY: Yes. I think I want to reiterate what
Ms. Miller said for the purposes of the process. Procedurally, I
would not have an issue with discussing the particular process.
But with regard to any specific comments as to any specific
project -- obviously particularly the Starbucks site is an
issue -- I would caution council against discussing anything
substantively relating to that application, because that is still
in process; and council, as you know, sits as a quasi-judicial
body. And right now what it is discussing is outside that
process. So I would caution council against making specific
comments about that particular project. Thank you.
>>SHAWN HARRISON: That is precisely the problem I wanted you
to come in here and talk about, Cynthia. You don't need to
apologize. It is what it is, and you are the department head, and
it wasn't created under your watch, and you are trying to make
things better, and we all applaud you for that.
In the last ten minutes we have heard the word "process"
used probably 30 or 40 times. That's the problem. The
neighborhood came before us, the applicant came before us,
whenever it was, a couple of months ago, and we gave this project
our blessing. And we said we approve. Neighborhood, you elected
us, we are here to represent you, and you are going to get your
Starbucks. And now what we are hearing is it's back in the
process, whatever that means, and that, in fact, it might come
back before us, for some reason. And I don't understand that.
I think that we all respect very much the volunteer efforts
of the ARC and the other boards. But it seems like the
neighborhood has spoken, the applicant has spoken, we have decided
as the representatives of the City of Tampa that this project will
be done, and it sounds to me like it's going back into this nether
world of process where we don't really know what might happen to
it. And that scares me. It's bureaucracy at its absolute worst.
How do we improve that?
The process seems to be, take control over everything that
we do anymore. And it's not the product. It's the process. And
as long as the process was followed, it's okay. I just don't
agree with that. And I don't want this neighborhood to lose this
amenity that they all came down here and spoke in force that they
wanted, because we are going back through some process and














ultimately it may come back here before us. And Starbucks may
just decide there are easier places to build. So ...
>>CINDY MILLER: Mr. Harrison, I fully understand your
concerns. I think my best response, again without going into the
specific application, is that when it comes to lessons learned, we
will need to come back to it, in the coming months, as my
department representative and for my divisions and for the
commission, to see if there are means by which we can make those
improvements. I do believe that the information I provided on the
timeline for the past steps of this particular application may
address some of the timing concerns that have arisen from the past
couple of months. And I think that that is probably the best
example that I can give you, that some of it is process, some of
it is communication of what needs to be submitted in order to that
have that process go forward in a smooth manner.
There are some issues that from a variety of sides and
positions need to be addressed more thoroughly and carefully to go
better, but we need to decide if it is process or if it is
something that we need to communicate more effectively and
thoroughly. We will certainly tighten it up and make it so that
any homeowner, anyone coming into the system, has a much easier
way of getting things accomplished in a quality manner and they
don't have to feel like they are jumping through hoops. That is
our commitment, to continue working on that.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Thank you, Ms. Miller.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: As I look through the timeline of this
particular project -- and, Mr. Shelby, I will not get into this
particular one; I agree with you -- but as I look at this, it
reminds me of what I think is part of the cumbersome part of this
process, and I will throw it out now so maybe we can think about
it later. When that came to us on April 14th, it came to us in
the status of the zoning process. Okay? Which it has to. We
can't delegate the zoning process to anybody else. So that's
wholly appropriate. First they have to go through the zoning,
then they get their certificates of appropriateness.
I think what made this extra cumbersome, and especially
frustrated them in the neighborhood, is that they apparently went
through one or two hearings in front of the ARC, speaking about
what the ARC's recommendation was going to be, to us, for the
rezoning. And what I would suggest is, I think that step is
superfluous. I think we can eliminate that step. I will tell you
why. When the Planning Commission comes to us with their
recommendation about rezonings, they don't take it to the Planning
Commission itself. It's just the Planning Commission staff
recommendation to us. Okay?
I think that we can probably eliminate a lot of those
earlier public hearings by just having Del and his staff review it
and give us their recommendations for the rezoning, and let the
ARC focus on the board. And I know they put in a tremendous
amount of time. I don't think the ARC needs to necessarily meet
on the recommendation of the rezoning. I think staff can do that
abundantly well. In this case it would have saved two months and
wouldn't have been any confusion for the neighborhood because the
neighborhood wouldn't have had to come down for those meetings and
come to our meetings, et cetera, et cetera. So I am hoping that
maybe that might be a little bit of the tightening of that
process.
The other thing I was going to say very generically is that,
and we had this the other day on the high-rise, which I won't get
into, but all the boards -- as you said earlier, we are just














trying to strike a balance between demanding -- as council we
demand that these projects are going to be the best projects they
can be for this city because they will be here long after we are
gone, people will be drinking Starbucks a long time. We want them
to be the best looking, best functioning. That is why we spent
time on this. Likewise, the BOCC and ARC.
But we have to strike that delicate balance to make sure we
don't chase away good projects. That's where we're at. It's
always a careful balancing act that I would caution the ARC
members to not lose sight of.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I believe that the degree to which we can
streamline this, it's all to the good. I thought Mr. Dingfelder's
suggestion was excellent, and I think that people who petition to
come before the ARC have a staff conference in advance. Maybe
what should happen is they need to have the conference and they
need to not come before the board until they really have their
plans worked out. I mean, we see it on council, where people come
up with PD requests and they haven't really figured it out yet.
They almost come before us to hear our feedback and then go back
and redesign it -- which, frankly, is a waste of everybody's time.
I would prefer that everybody wait to come to us until they
have their act together. I think that the staff of ARC is real
supportive in terms of explaining to folks what they need to have.
Maybe people realize they need to be good listeners and they have
their papers and application together before they come up and they
don't have to wait another month or two to go back and refiddle
with it before they come back and really have a completed
application. And I think that often is an issue.
But thank you for coming and talking about quality. I think
that that desire for our community to have quality, balanced with
not frustrating folks, is really the key.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Ms. Ferlita?
>>ROSE FERLITA: I think this council has been consistently
finding ways to make the process -- famous word, "process" -- more
efficient. And I think this council wants to get other processes
that are frustrating and aggravating to the constituents better.
Because of the fact that Cindy Miller is standing there, because
of the fact that we are talking about an issue that is going
through the process, you are unusually quiet, and rightly so. And
I think you are getting the message.
But from what I understand, Cindy, this is not the time for
you to weigh in on it. We appreciate that. Even if you don't
have a lot of comments, we understand why this is, and we look
forward to talking to you when you try to streamline this process.
Thank you.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Thank you. Now, Mr. Roland Santiago.
>>ROLAND SANTIAGO: Roland Santiago, Review. This is
substitute resolution. There was an incorrect account number. We
have adjusted that; therefore have modified the resolution to have
the correct account number.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Then, Mr. Santiago, you can answer my
question. No one gets away with 30 seconds.
>>ROLAND SANTIAGO: I was told I might get this question.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: How long is this contract for?
>>ROLAND SANTIAGO: I understand that this -- I didn't work
on this particular agreement, but I have been briefed on it. What
I understand is that it contains a provision that the term of the
agreement is as long as it takes to complete the project. The
expectation to complete it is approximately six to nine months.
The reason we build in that type of language that the agreement














remains in effect until the project is completed is to allow
flexibility for unforeseen delays and such.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: The reason I raise this question, council
members, is I have spoken to members of the Channel District.
They want this plan done yesterday. They are so eager to get it
done because we are about to realize some TIF moneys. They need
to know where are the sewer lines are going to go, when the
sidewalks are going to get built. So I am pleased to here that
the time frame is that tight. Thank you.
>>ROLAND SANTIAGO: On the second set of items, I am here on
Items 95 to 100. That is second resolutions setting a hearing to
adopt a non-ad valorem assessment for streetlights in a number of
particular subdivisions. We have revised the legal description.
I have prepared those. I have the substitute resolutions here. I
can hand you copies, and I ask that you substitute those
resolutions that have been presented to you.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Thank you. Okay. Ms. Helgo? ^ .
>> MS. HELGO ^ : Land development. Due to council's
requirements and need for vacation in July, I would like to walk
on cases for both the August 11th and August 25th agendas. For
August 11th, V 0551, Z 0598, Z 0599 Z 05100, and Z 05-102.
>>: So moved.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: All in favor of the motion say aye.
>>: Thank you. And for August 25th, the cases are V 0557,
Z 0595, Z 05103, Z 05106, and Z 05109.
>>: Moved.
>>: Second.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: We have a motion and second. All in
favor say aye.
[Motion Carried]
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: At this time I would like to recognize
Ms. Anne O'Hara. Would you please come forward?
>>ANNE O'HARA: Thank you. My name is Anne O'Hara, and I
live at 4601 West Hawthorne Road in Tampa. My topic is keeping
Conn Natatorium open at least one year. And I represent all of
these lovely people who are here, who have really a vested
interest in keeping it open.
According to the pool manager, approximately 100 of these
people use the pool every day. These include disabled children
and adults and every age and state of health in between. Many of
whose doctors have recommended that they swim, do exercises in an
indoor heated pool.
The city needs a covered, heated pool. Many seniors are on
no-sun medications. Conn is the only covered, heated pool in our
area. Even the Y is an outdoor pool.
Now, we understand that $570,000 worth of deferred
maintenance is needed at Conn Natatorium. The Boys and Girls Club
cannot afford this. If, however, council agrees to keep it open,
I'm sure that staff can renegotiate the lease with the Boys and
Girl Club. The city could get back their $570,000, with interest,
when the property is sold sometime down the road.
The Boys and Girls Club's big issue is the deferred
maintenance. In the meantime we pool users could pay a fee, hold
some fundraising events, and do whatever else we can to help
defray the costs, if necessary.
The city recently budgeted $400,000 to landscape Ballast
Point Park. It costs a little more than 1/8 of that to maintain
Conn for a year. Not much, when you consider the health benefits
to those who use it. The city can afford the $50,000 for the
year, we hope. Keeping Conn open for a year or more, or until














another facility is built, would contribute so much to the
mobility, health, and wellbeing of pool users -- adding to the
quality of life in the City of Tampa, rather than subtracting from
it by this untimely closure.
Thank you. And Karen Palus is here if you have any
questions.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Thank you, Anne.
Ms. Palus, did you have any -- I am sure you have been in
contact with the Boys and Girls Club on this issue. I know there
has been a lot of e-mails flying around on the issue.
>>KAREN PALUS: Yes, we have had several discussions back
and forth with the Boys and Girls Club. The information I shared
with council in previous meetings is still the same.
Unfortunately, there is a little more than half a million dollars
or more, depending on what you get into, for an older facility
like that. We won't know officially if it is a half million or
more.
It is in a condition that is unsafe. We have liners that
are cracked and peeling. It is a fiberglass liner, which the
fiberglass is becoming undone. It is becoming very hazard ous.
Needs filtration overhauled completely.
Unfortunately, Boys and Girls Club is in the position to
move forward with the sale of that building. So to expend those
dollars for a building we do not own makes it challenging for us.
We have organizations that need quite a bit of work as well, and
we are working to support those.
It is a very positive thing in the fact to have an indoor
facility, plus to have all those wonderful things she spoke about.
However, the condition of that facility is in need of a complete
overhaul or a new facility.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Karen, I apologize, I missed your last
presentation on this. But some of our pools are heated. Correct?
>>KAREN PALUS: Yes. Just about half of our pools at
different times of the season are heated and held up year-round.
Spicola Pool, Bobby Hicks, several our facilities out there. What
we did is we have relocated all of our programs that were housed
at Conn to two of our pools, Interbay and Bobby Hicks. So the
programmatic piece is still in place.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Obviously the sun is an issue that has
been raised, and I am sure very validly. Bobby Hicks is the one
at Robinson. Correct?
>>KAREN PALUS: Correct.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: What I was thinking about, though that
one is not heated, especially during the summer when it is intense
out there, there is no shade at Bobby Hicks, but you can swim
crossways at Bobby Hicks and get a good lap in. At least I can,
because I'm not a very good swimmer. But what I was thinking was
maybe we could put up some poles or some cloth, whatever, that
vinyl stuff, across the about 10, 20 yards, down at the far end,
that would create shade, you know, in Bobby Hicks, so at least
during the summertime that might be at least a shading option for
swimming.
Then in the wintertime, when they need the heated, then
maybe -- I don't know where the heated pool is. Is Interbay
heated? You can go to Interbay by Coleman and use the heated pool
there. Maybe y'all could look at the feasibility of any kind of
shading for the summer down at -- not the whole pool, obviously,
but down at the far end where it wouldn't interfere with anybody.
>>KAREN PALUS: There are several shade structures we can
look at. You do see at larger facilities, you see shade over














playground structures. Little League bleachers, those kinds of
things. Those typically run, depending on your span, run from
$50,000 to $100,000. It is something we could look into to see if
there is a way we could modify that area in that location.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: It seems to be a South Tampa focus, if
you want to get back with me. It's up to council.
>>ROSE FERLITA: She had talked with me, that she was going
to be working on it. I understand what Mr. Dingfelder is saying.
He's looking for something that is remedial. Because of cost, I
understand, but it's very bandaid-remedial. You referenced the
fact that we probably are not going to spend up from half a
million dollars to repair somebody else's facility that we don't
own. And that's fine.
But why don't we go to the reverse end and be very proactive
and spend money on a facility that we do have that would be
heated, secured, whatever? John's idea is fine, but it will
alleviate it just for the present time. I think we spend a lot of
money on a lot of things, and some of us think they are good
expenses, some of us think they're bad expenses. To me, because
this is therapeutic for senior citizens, and they don't come and
ask for ridiculous requests, we are at the height of the budget
season, funded or unfunded, and I think we should take those same
dollars we would have spent here, find something from the
administration, and do something to add another pool setting in
close proximity to where Ms. Harris is talking about.
Thank you for all the communication you have given me and
our colleagues. We understand this is an issue. You have senior
citizens -- not recreational, really -- because of arthritic
condition, on and on. Therapeutically, this is something the
senior-citizen component, particularly in this South Tampa area,
needs. Whatever we need to do to try to encourage more funds, me
particularly, since I live there, and having talked to her and
because Mr. Dingfelder is their representative, we need to do
something it is not fluff as far as I am concerned. It is
something that is needed medically for these senior citizens, as
opposed to what we fund for other things.
>>KAREN PALUS: We feel it is an important function to be
able to provide those services to those individuals. That is why
we work very diligently to make sure all those programmatic pieces
in place.
>>ROSE FERLITA: Let's not let this get lost in the shuffle.
Also what he was talking about on doing temporarily to create some
shade, a lot of individuals, particularly senior citizens, are on
some medications that I know that have a great deal of issue with
photosensitivity, and I'm not sure that this temporary, remedial,
whatever he was talking about to create some shade, is going to be
exactly what they need. So I am asking please see what can you
do, even if you have to cut someplace else. These people have
paid their dues. They need our assistance, and I think we should
be able to try to fund it.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Would they be able to still use the
facilities until something is found for them?
>>KAREN PALUS: Actually, based on the lease agreement, we
will be closed as of tomorrow. That facility is in a condition
that does not currently meet the Department of Health standards.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: They can't use it at all as of
tomorrow?
>>KAREN PALUS: Right. It is unsafe.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: How long will it take until another
place is concerned?














>>KAREN PALUS: Currently Bobby Hicks and Interbay, we will
look to see what we can do at those areas. But keeping up with
the filtration system at that facility as well as keeping up with
the shell of the pool is unsafe. We have been able to limp it by
as close as possible, working with the Boys and Girl Clubs, but
they are out of dollars to fund continued operational costs, as
well as do any kind of remedial repairs at that facility, because
it's a shell and the fiberglass is coming apart, which makes it a
very dangerous situation.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Will you stay in touch with
Ms. O'Hara, then, and let them know?
>>KAREN PALUS: Most definitely. We really appreciate her
interest.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Thank you. Is there anyone in the
audience that would like to ask for reconsideration? We will go
to our audience portion. Anyone in the audience that would like
to speak on any item that is on the agenda that is not set for
public hearing, you may come up now.
>>FROM THE FLOOR: That means you can speak to an issue if
you're not (inaudible) --
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Yes, ma'am, you can.
>>ELIZABETH GARCIA: Good morning. I am Elizabeth Garcia,
2615 North Dundee. I have been enjoying this facility along with
many others. We do appreciate what was stated today, and we do
appreciate your concerns as they have been addressed. I would
just like to raise one thought that could perhaps be pursued. I
am very familiar with the fact that Orlando, Clearwater, and other
Florida cities of some size have taken care to provide a very
large facility that is enclosed that can be used not only for the
therapeutic purposes that were discussed and the opportunities for
the physically disadvantaged, but they also provide places for
special training programs for young people, and adults for
specialty swimming. And, oftentimes, my understanding is that
these nice, covered facilities, which are the size of our Bobby
Hicks pool already existing, can be rented out for special
activities. And that gives an opportunity, perhaps, for the city
to recoup some of the expense of operations -- obviously, not of
all the construction.
But if we could consider getting a plan to properly enclose
Bobby Hicks, which already exists as a very good pool, and to also
look at the parking needs that would be required if it were made
available for competitions, I think that it would be very
beneficial to the city, not just to the south part of town, but to
the city overall, to have a facility that could also tie into some
of the major sports activities we would like to attract to our
area.
So I would suggest that if we give attention to whatever
improvements might be needed in the enclosing of Bobby Hicks pool,
it could be a great benefit to the City of Tampa. I leave that to
your consideration. Thank you.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Thank you. Next?
>>IRMA CELESTINE: Good morning. May peace be with all of
you. My name is Irma Celestine, I reside at 812 West Columbus
Drive, and I am speaking on Article 20. I was hoping -- I think
the name is Mahdi Mansour who represents -- I don't know if it is
he or she.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: He. He is not here.
>>IRMA CELESTINE: I apologize.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: That's okay.
>>IRMA CELESTINE: Yeah. I need serious help. I live at














812 West Columbus Drive. It has been about almost six months
since Stormwater came in and did some work in front of my house.
And apparently, the house has been falling apart, and I tried to
speak to several city agency as well as the repair is concerned,
because ever since they did the work, my house has been vibrating,
it's full of holes. Yeah, the whole ground is -- everything
inside of my house is constantly vibrating, whenever a large
vehicle passes by.
And I'm not getting any response from any of the city
agency. All they have done is given me the run-around. Not only
the run-around, I have been bullied, I have been harassed, because
I am persistent. It is like I am not supposed to ask or say
anything, because they, Stormwater, certainly have made a mistake,
and they refuse to take account -- responsibility for their
mistake. And as I said, I was hoping the man would have been
here.
We had other agency who came to find what was going on.
Stormwater apparently to me is hiding. I am very angry, and I do
need someone to take accountability of what's happening. Someone
needs to come out so I can show them the problem, because it's not
fair to me, because everybody who has a home, it's their soul.
That's the way I raise my kids.
My husband died for this country here during the war, and
I'm not going to allow to be treated any kind of way because right
now, I feel -- I feel real angry, because, as I said, I have been
trying to get someone to resolve the problem. They are just
ignoring me, and I am tired of being bullied, I ams tired of being
harassed. It is very unfortunate that we live in a time of fear
and confusion instead of alleviate the problems that we have at
home. It seems like nobody cares.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Mr. Harrison?
>>SHAWN HARRISON: Ma'am, this was item 20 on our agenda. I
don't know if you received it, but we all received a written
report rather than Mr. Mansour coming in and speaking to us.
>>IRMA CELESTINE: Okay.
>>SHAWN HARRISON: Essentially what they said is that they
went back and looked at it, that they think that they have done
everything that they can, and they suggested that if you feel like
you have some further issues, to contact the City of Tampa's
Claims Department, which is how things work. I am just passing
along -- that seems to be the response that we are going to get,
so I think that is probably your next step. We will provide a
copy of this to you if you don't have it already.
>>IRMA CELESTINE: No, sir. They had sent me to Claims
Department. What does Claims Department have to do where the work
that they have done? I would think that they would have come out
and -- listen, sir, this is the third time. They are going to
have to come back and resurface the area, because it is sinking
again. That is to show that the work that they had done was not
done properly. So I don't see what's the point of me going to
city claim. Claiming what? I am not looking for money. I am
looking for them to repair the road and alleviate the problem that
I have at my home. This is an unfinished business, sir.
And as I recall, you said in one of your meetings, sir,
Mr. Harrison, -- let me quote you, "The devil that you know is
better than the devil that you do not know."
>>SHAWN HARRISON: Not in this context.
>>IRMA CELESTINE: I am just quoting what you said. I am
dealing with the devil, refusing to take accountability of the
mistake that they have made.














>>SPEAKER: I can't talk too loud.
My name is Max (name). Bobby Hicks Pool is not heated, and
we do need a heated pool. I have letters from doctors for my
wife; as you see over here, she has a walker. If you have
arthritis, you definitely need a heated pool. If you try to go
into an unheated pool, it hurts. So I appreciate the fact of what
you said here. I think it's the right thing to do. I think you
are on the right track, is to go to this other pool on Interbay.
They have a heated pool. If we could put a canopy over it
somewhere or another, then that would save the money. Restructure
the pool. Put the money there. Keep this other pool open maybe
another six months, a year, temporarily, to where we can go ahead
and use this facility until they can get this other one done. It
would be greatly appreciated.
I thank you for your time. I appreciate the fact you are
taking the time to do this and to help us, because we are senior
citizens and we do need help. And we appreciate your cooperation.
Thank you.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Sir, I want to clarify one thing. A
couple things. One, I learned to swim in the Conn Pool, and I
taught my children to swim in the Conn Pool. It was a good
facility. I will call the Boys and Girl Club director and see if
there's any chance they could give an extension on that, you know,
to keep it open a few more months until we could possibly put some
shade over the Interbay. But there's no promises, and we will
just try our best.
>>MAX: Well, we could go ahead and swim over there the best
we can, but I appreciate the opportunity. You are going to look
into it. That is my main agenda, that you are going to look into
it and try to help us. That's all we can ask you. Thank you very
much.
>>ROSE FERLITA: Madam Chairman, let me also put out the
caution on record, if we do have any associations where extension
director Karen Palus says that it is a public safety issue -- not
that it is not a good idea -- we will focus on trying to get
another one enclosed. We appreciate your comments to the people
up here.
>>MAX: Thank you for trying to get something done.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: They are going to work on it to make
sure you-all have somewhere to go. Thank you. Next?
>>MOSES KNOTT JR.: My name is Moses Knott Jr., 2902 East
Ellicott Street, where I operated a business for about 40 years
and just grandfathered in, thank you Jesus. Took a long time, but
God always comes to you by his children. But then I thank God for
his grace and his mercy.
Last week I had about 20 people tell me, thank God for his
grace and mercy. I told them it is good to have Jesus in you. It
is better to have him. Most people don't call on God until
something happens.
I want to speak on Article 20 and Article 23. Article 20,
the lady that just came up here, I met this lady a long time ago
when she first moved to Tampa. She lost her husband in the
military. And 4th of July, we celebrate a free country, and since
she lost her husband in the military, the lady suffer. A long
time ago when she first moved in this house right here, somebody
told her she needed building material. Somebody contacted me and
I went over there and helped her put up a fence and everything.
It's been a long time ago, but I also told her -- this morning
y'all mentioned the word about 20 times, "the process."
But I told her, the city got a process. When something














happen to you and you are a neighbor, they give you the
run-around. At the end, the process, they ain't going to do
nothing about it. So I see what y'all are talking about when you
talk about the process.
Another thing, this Article 23, about this building here,
you know, I been coming into this building for a long time, and
this building has come a long way. I was sitting there, no TV or
nothing. But this morning, y'all brought the guy in this morning
to see about getting a concession stand in here. But that wasn't
the straw that broke the camel's back. Last week y'all told
Mr. Shelby -- this is no everyday man. This man came out of the
big house. He had air-conditioning and all that.
>>SHAWN HARRISON: He can serve coffee in the snack bar.
>>MOSES KNOTT JR.: Then you got dancing out in the hallway.
Whee!
But back to the process again. Now, the process of a lady
coming in, building her house, you have to tell the neighbor "you
have to make it look good." I thought y'all would jump on this
man, grab him on the chest, hold him to the floor, we want this,
we want that, and we won't settle for nothing. It will be our way
or the highway. That's what y'all always say.
But I don't understand the way y'all do business, you know,
I just don't understand that. But I still say, make sure the
people downstairs move out of here. Through the years a lot of
people have moved out of city hall. Down through the years you
could come in and pay the water bill and everything else. But you
move everybody out to Ybor City. I am telling you, y'all ought to
give Mr. Shelby an office.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Shall we put Mr. Harrison in charge of
that?
>>MOSES KNOTT JR.: Put somebody.
Another thing that bothers me, y'all are so smart and then
let something like that go undone. (Buzzer sounded.)
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Is there anyone else in the audience
who would like to speak?
>>MARY ALVAREZ: You can have an office, Mr. Shelby, in
Mr. Knott's house. (Laughter).
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: At this time we will go to our
committee reports.
Public safety, Mr. John Dingfelder, vice chair. Will you do
those, please?
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Yes, Madam chair. Move Items 25 through
28.
(Motion made, seconded, carried.)
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Parks and Recreation, Mary Alvarez.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: Move Items 29-32.
(Motion made, seconded, carried.)
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Public Works, Mr. John Dingfelder.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Move Items 33 through 50.
(Motion made, seconded, carried.)
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Finance Committee, Mr. Kevin White.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Madam Chairman, if I could just defer to
the end of the meeting Number 55. They were bringing me down some
information on that.
>>KEVIN WHITE: I move 54 through 61.
(Motion made, seconded, carried.)
>>MARTIN SHELBY: Mr. White, I believe Number 59 has to have
the title. Resolution not allowed. Council's rules.
>>KEVIN WHITE: Move for second reading, resolution
replacing procedure for rules governing City Council, City of














Tampa, superseding all previous resolutions, providing an
effective date.
(Motion made, seconded, carried.)
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Building and Zoning Committee,
Ms. Linda Saul-Sena?
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thanks, Madam Chairman.
Before I read these, I just wanted to comment on Item 83,
Ms. Alvarez. I think that the facade improvement program in West
Tampa is some of the best-spent public money. Main Street is
looking excellent. The facades that have been improved are so
significantly better, and they really show the historic character
of West Tampa.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: Thank you, Ms. Saul-Sena. Also we might
look into doing some more facade improvements, especially on the
Kennedy Boulevard corridor. We would like to maybe do a -- we are
going to look into that and see if we can get some moneys in
there.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: There are certainly some "befores" that
could be improved.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Could become "afters."
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: The ones in West Tampa just look
terrific. I know you have been a leader in that.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: Thank you.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I would like to move Numbers 62,
substituting 64, through 84. Seconded.
(Motion made, seconded, carried.)
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you. Number 85, move an ordinance
amending 2005-112 to correct a scrivener's error, said error to be
an omission in the legal description in the development district
noticed throughout the proceedings for review and approval of the
district, the same being more fully described in the attachment
hereto, providing for severability, providing an effective date.
(Motion made, seconded, carried.)
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Number 86. You know, there are quite a
few ordinances, and I would be happy to read them all, but if you
want other council members...
Number 86, by substituting a corrected legal description for
an incorrect legal description that was supplied in error,
providing an effective date.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: I will read 87 for you. Move an
ordinance authorizing the installation and maintenance and
encouragement of balconies and canopies, public portion right of
way known as Kennedy Boulevard, State Road 60, east of Meridian
Avenue, west of Channelside Drive, more particularly described
here, providing an effective date, in accordance with agreements.
(Motion made, seconded, carried.)
>>MARY ALVAREZ: I will read 88. Move an ordinance
authorizing the installation and maintenance of decorative porch
overhang over a portion of the -- known as North Cypress Street
north Cypress and Gomez intersections in the City of Tampa, as
more particularly described herein, subject to certain terms,
agreements, covenants, as described herein, providing an effective
date.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Move to set appeal hearings on Number 89,
90, and 91.
(Motion made, seconded, carried.)
>>SHAWN HARRISON: Transportation. Move items 93 through
103, with a substitute on 96.
>>ROSE FERLITA: With substitutes on 95 through 96 through
100?














>>SHAWN HARRISON: The whole thing, all that.
(Motion made, seconded, carried.)
>>SHAWN HARRISON: Move the new business items 104 and 105.
(Motion made, seconded, carried.)
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: We are going to our audience for
second reading. Is there anyone in the audience that will speak
on items 5 through 10? Will you please stand and raise your right
hand? Move to open the public hearing?
(Motion made, seconded, carried.)
>>Mr. Shelby?
>>MARTIN SHELBY: Thank you, Madam Chair. I ask at this
time that all written communications relative to today's hearings
that have been available to the public at council's office be
received and filed into the record at this time.
(Motion made, seconded and carried.)
>>MARTIN SHELBY: Secondly, a reminder that if any council
member has had any verbal communications with any petitioner or
their representatives or any members of the public in connection
with any of the petitions that are going to be heard today, the
members should disclose the following information -- the identity
of the person, group, or entity with whom the verbal communication
occurred, and the substance of that verbal communication.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Thank you. Anyone in the public that
would like to speak to item 5?
SPEAKER 2: Move to close the public hearing.
(Motion made, seconded and carried.)
>>KEVIN WHITE: Move an ordinance vacating, closing,
discontinuing, and abandoning a certain right of way, all that
portion of Trask Street south of Melrose avenue, north of San
Raphael Street, west of Hesperides, and east of Westshore
Boulevard, map of Henderson Beach, City of Tampa, Hillsborough
County, Florida, the same more fully described in attachment
hereto, providing an effective date.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Voice vote.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Yes.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Yes.
>>SHAWN HARRISON: Yes.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Yes.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: Yes.
>>ROSE FERLITA: Yes
>>KEVIN WHITE: Yes.
[Motion Carried]
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Anyone in the public like to speak on
item 6?
(Motion carried to close public hearing.)
>>ROSE FERLITA: Ordinance vacating, closing, discontinuing,
and abandoning certain right of way or that alleyway north of
Jones Avenue, east of Albany Avenue, Evelyn City, a subdivision
located in the City of Tampa, Hillsborough County, the same more
fully described in section 2 hereof, providing an effective date.
(Motion and second, roll call vote.)
>>: On Item Number 6, Mr. Santiago is presenting a
substitute motion.
>>ROSE FERLITA: I will read the first reading.
>>ROLAND SANTIAGO: If you will allow me to clarify what is
going on on this particular matter. When this hearing came to you
a few weeks ago, there was a reduced area that was allowed for the
vacating. So the original ordinance you got was what was allowed
at first review. Based on council's review of reduced level,














there was a revised legal description, hence we had to present
this ordinance new. First reading occurred.
This being a substantive change, we ask that you, rather
than do second reading, do first reading today and second reading
when you return from summer break. Thank you.
>>ROSE FERLITA: Move an ordinance vacating, closing,
discontinuing, and abandoning a portion of a certain right of way,
portion of certain alleyway lying south of Waters Avenue, north of
Jones Avenue, east of Albany Avenue, west of Fremont Avenue in
Evelyn City, a subdivision located in the City of Tampa,
Hillsborough County, Florida, the same being more fully described
in section 2 hereof, providing an effective date.
[Motion Carried].
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Anyone in the public who would like to
speak on item 7? Motion and second to close. All in favor say
aye?
[Motion Carried].
>>MARY ALVAREZ: I move to adopt the following ordinance
upon second reading: An ordinance by the City of Tampa naming a
certain previously unnamed street in the City of Tampa, generally
known as the Platt-Azeele Street connector, herein further
described, to be hereafter known as Park City Way, providing an
effective date.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: We have a motion and second. Roll
call vote?
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: A question. I wasn't here for the first
reading. Where is this?
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you. I asked that question last
time, because I said what is park city? It's right near the
bookstore, that little triangle. The reason it is named that is
because it is the name of the little subdivision.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: There is some portion of that that never
got named?
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Somebody wants to build on it, and they
need a street address so they can satisfy the post office.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Why not Saul-Sena Way?
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Well ... Mr. Cook?
>>JAMES COOK: James Cook, land development coordination.
This issue came up last week. This is Platt, Armenia, Azeele,
Tampania. For many years this has been known as the Platt-Azeele
connector or Platt-Azeele cutoff. Land Development proposed is
right here. They are actually facing that unnamed street, and for
911 purposes we requested that that be off that street.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: What is the Park City subdivision?
>>JOHN COOK: The entire subdivision, the platted
subdivision in that name.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Okay.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Okay? Voice vote.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Yes.
>>SHAWN HARRISON: Yes.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Yes.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: Yes.
>>ROSE FERLITA: Yes.
>>KEVIN WHITE: Yes.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Harrison absent.
Anyone in the public wishing to speak on item 8?
[Motion Carried].
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Move an ordinance authorizing the
installation and maintenance of an encroachment (balconies and
canopies) by Key Developers Group, LLC, over a portion of the














right of way known as Whiting Street, Washington street and
Channelside Drive, as more particularly described herein, subject
to certain terms, provisions and agreements, as more particularly
described herein, providing an effective date.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Yes.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Yes.
>>SHAWN HARRISON: (Absent.)
>>MARY ALVAREZ: Yes.
>>ROSE FERLITA: Yes.
>>KEVIN WHITE: Yes.
(Motion carried with Harrison being absent).
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Anyone to speak on item 9? Motion to
close.
[Motion Carried].
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Move to adopt the following ordinance
upon second reading. Ordinance authorizing installation and
maintenance of an encroachment over a portion of the public arrive
known as north 19th Street, generally located near the
intersection with 5th avenue, as more particularly described
herein, subject to certain terms, covenants, conditions and
agreements, as more particularly described herein, providing an
effective date.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Yes.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Yes.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Yes.
>>ROSE FERLITA: Yes.
>>KEVIN WHITE: Yes.
[Motion Carried] with Harrison being absent.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Anyone in the public want to speak on
item 10?
[Motion Carried].
>>: Move to adopt the following ordinance upon second
reading. Move ordinance repealing Number 2004-166, an ordinance
making lawful the sale of beverages containing alcohol of more
than 1% by weight and not more than 14% by weight and wines
regardless of alcoholic content, beer and wine, 2-COP-R for
consumption on premises, only in connection with a restaurant
business establishment on that certain lot, plot, or tract of land
located at 17515 Bruce P. Downs Boulevard, Tampa, Florida, as more
particularly described in section 3 hereof, waiving certain
restrictions as to distance based upon certain findings; providing
for repeal of all ordinances in conflict, providing an effective
date.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Yes.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Yes.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: Yes.
>>ROSE FERLITA: Yes.
>>KEVIN WHITE: Yes.
[Motion Carried].
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Go back to item 4. This will be a
workshop. Will this be continued or what?
>>: I understood that there may have been a request for
continuance but I have not received anything on that on item 4.
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: Cathleen O'Dowd, Legal Department. With
regard to item 4, it was my understanding with Ms. Miller,
regarding the ARC portion of the discussion, it be continued until
August 11th. But we are prepared this morning to provide you with
a copy of the proposed revisions to the Historic Preservation
Commission's portion of the ordinance, Chapter 27, and discuss
those at whatever lengths you would like me to.














>>ROSE FERLITA: Madam Chairman, I think that was my
understanding, too, in terms of Mrs. Miller's presentation. What
about if you gave us that information, and looked at it and took
it up at a future time? Is that okay with you? Then when we do
the other portion that Ms. Miller wants to do, it was my
understanding that she would have preferred we do this at the same
time.
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: No. Actually we would like to present
the ordinance today and either ask for your direction to send it
to the Planning Commission so that we can proceed with adoption,
or provide it to you, give you a brief overview, and if you want,
give you additional time --
>>ROSE FERLITA: If that's the case, there's a lot of data
there. Wouldn't it be better if we took it and looked at it and
then discussed it?
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: Council's preference.
>>ROSE FERLITA: We would be better prepared. We don't do
it often, and we want to do it right. I think if we look at it at
our leisure, we could make more notes.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I was going to say it is a lot to look
at. In my opinion, I don't see why, when we do things like this,
we have to send it to the Planning Commission. Frankly, it is our
own historic preservation stuff. But as Mr. Dingfelder said, our
state law says we must send it to them. It takes longer, because
after we send it to them, we have our public hearings. It takes
longer.
Frankly, we have been working on this for like five years,
so I don't think another month will kill us. We will look at it
and we will hear from our constituents. And I frankly plan an
opportunity for the community to come, and also invite all the
neighborhood organizations to take a look at it and provide
feedback, because this is a big deal.
>>ROSE FERLITA: So today is too premature to look at it and
bring it back.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: I am just curious why Ms. Miller asked for
that continuance. Do you know?
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: It is my understanding that an appeal
hearing has been scheduled on August 11th for council's
consideration, and it deals with the issue that we were going to
workshop today. So we would ask that council delay its discussion
on that topic until after the appeal hearing has been concluded by
council.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: Okay.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: The other thing that I would like to
suggest is that members of council avail themselves of staff in
terms of going over this, because honest and truly, we have been
working on this for five years, and it's complicated, and it's got
a lot of moving parts, and a lot of the changes that are proposed
here have come from members of the public and also from board
members and also from council over the years are, so it represents
I think a streamlining, clarifying, and improvement. So I am
asking Ms. O'Dowd to meet with council and staff to go over what
the changes are. Also it would be very helpful to provide some
sort of executive summary of some of the changes.
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: Actually, that has been provided. There
is a summary of the proposed changes. If I may, I won't get into
the details but this has been workshopped with Historic
Preservation on many occasions, most recently on June 14th, and
interested parties in the public, those that are involved in
preservation groups, have been invited to attend and give














comments.
So what you have before you is actually a document that has
received feedback from those groups and the commission and has
included their comments. So I am hoping from here forward,
whatever revisions will be minor. Because it has been
workshopped, has been out there for quite a while. It has been a
four-year project, actually before I came on board with the city.
I will be available to discuss it with council, as well as
Dennis Fernandez, the counsel for the Historic Preservation
Commission.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: Being that Ms. O'Dowd and Mr. Fernandez and
Mr. Avila are here and they are ready to do some kind of a
presentation, I think it would be helpful to us if she would just
go through the summary of it for us so that way, when we look into
the ordinance, we know exactly what she's talking about. So I
think maybe if you can give us like a 10 or 15-minute
presentation, maybe less? Whatever it takes for you -- without us
having to make any judgments or anything else other than to listen
to you, and any comments. Of course we are free to make comments,
but I think that would help.
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: I think I could keep it to under 5
minutes.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: That would be good.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: You have a question before she starts?
She might answer your question, Mr. Dingfelder.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: I do have a quick question and this
might be for Dennis. I want to make sure that since the city is
doing such a good job of putting things online now, our entire
agenda package, this entire book is online, that we make sure we
notify people who are watching and who are interested in historic
preservation, where they can find this, both of these documents,
the proposed ordinance change as well as the summary. It's an
8-page summary, Kate. We may need a summary of the summary --
anyway, where we can find these online.
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: They are online at the historic
preservation link under Tampagov.net, so they can be reviewed by
the public (TampaGOV.net.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'm game for a five-minute presentation.
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: One of the attempts was to create a
chapter for Historic Preservation, including Historic
Preservation's portion, Barrio Latino Commission. When Cindy came
on board as Director of Business and Housing Development, we had a
discussion about that and decided that there were no advantages we
could identify to creating a separate chapter for Historic
Preservation. So once it was decided to keep it in Chapter 27,
the revisions were much easier.
What you have before you is those changes to just the
Historic Preservation Commission. Previously, there were only two
sections in Chapter 27 that dealt with the HPC -- section 27-230,
which created the commission, and 27-231, which established all
other regulations that were under the authority of the Historic
Preservation Commission. And it was somewhat difficult to read
that latter section, because it was so long. It wasn't divided up
by subject matter.
So for an attorney like me, when I first came onboard,
reading it, it was difficult to understand. I think the public
had some difficulty with it. So we tried to break it up, and
break up the sections by subject matter.
In the first, in the ordinance on Page 2 where we talk about
in section 27-230, still the creation of the Historic Preservation














Commission, one of the main changes here is to reduce the
membership from 9 to 7. We are going to be recommending this also
for the Architectural Review Commission and the Barrio Latino
Commission so that all the members have the same membership.
Under the guidelines we are required to have commissions
based on five members at a minimum, so we will be exceeding that.
The background for membership remains the same. It's just a
reduction in the number. Also it's because of council's
difficulty to fit nine people in this setting.
The term of eligibility. The terms are a maximum of two
consecutive terms, each term for three years. And that really is
the major changes in that section.
With regard to minutes, meetings, everything else has
remained the same there. And we've clarified that Historic
Preservation Commission members are subject to the city's local
code of ethics as are other appointed officials.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: This doesn't really -- I'm sorry, I need
to ask you. Who selects the members? Is that staying the same?
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: Yes. Four members. What we're
proposing is four members would be selected by the Mayor and
submitted to the council for approval. One less for each. And
each authority would appoint an alternate member. That is what we
are adding is alternate members. They don't currently have those.
What I have done, what was section 27-231, has been broken out
from section 27-231.1 to.13 and that is how we separated out the
different areas of regulation by the HPC, so it is easier to find
in the code and understand.
The powers and duties of the HPC, they start on Page 4 of
the ordinance. Those have not changed. We have not added powers
and duties. We have just clarified what they were. For instance,
the HPC has the power to recommend guidelines for adoption.
Currently it recommends the HPC adopts these guidelines. That is
not correct, because it is a legislative function for council to
do, not for the commission to do. So we are clarifying those
types of discrepancies.
Then on Page 5 of the ordinance we identify the duties of
the administrator and staff. Those are actually currently in the
code, shown as HPC duties and that's just for clarification.
Section 27-231.2 deals with proposed additions to the
National Register of historic places. Revisions there were just
in keeping with the National Registration Process, and we are not
changing that at all. Basically the HPC has the ability to
comment on any additions to the National Register.
Page 6, local designation of landmarks, landmark sites,
conservation districts, and historic districts -- that remains the
same as is currently in the code. The code right now deals with
the process in reverse chronological order. It starts at the end
of the process and then you read back to the beginning, so we have
turned it around so that an applicant actually understands what
the first step is and what every step thereafter is. But
substantively we have not made any changes here.
Going on to Page 8 of the ordinance, criteria to qualify as
a landmark. That criteria has not changed. It is what exists
under the National Registration criteria. So there have not been
any substantive changes there either.
Page 9, the landmark site. There will be a presumption that
when a landmark structure comes before the HPC for consideration
of landmarking, then on to City Council for that status to be
assigned, that that also include the parcel or property upon which
the structure sits. And then, the applicant or property owner, if














they would like to reduce the landmarking to just the structure of
the building, there is that option to have that discussion at the
commission, but it is on the applicant or the property owners. It
is their burden to show that the site, the property, the whole
area upon which the landmark sits, should not be included in the
landmark designation.
Also, on Page 9, we deal with economic hardship criteria.
This comes into play when City Council is being asked to consider
a recommendation from the HPC to initiate a landmark status and
the property owner may initiate an application to show that
landmarking the property, landmarking the structure, would create
an economic hardship for that property owner. And this would
essentially delay the landmarking property. It would allow that
petition to go back to the HPC to see whether or not that economic
hardship is created. This sets out what the application consists
of and what the criteria would be as applied by the HPC in making
that determination of economic hardship.
If, in fact, that hardship is established, then the HPC has
the option to not proceed with the landmark designation, and that
will stop the process at that point in time. Any questions on
that?
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Questions from council members?
>>MARY ALVAREZ: Just one thing. Does this pertain to the
cigar factories that are in question at this point? You know,
some of the cigar factories don't want to be designated.
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: I don't know exactly where that
application is in the process. But at this point, the current
code criteria would apply to that application. This would apply
once it's enacted, and then, depending on where that application
is in process it's possible that this would apply. There is
currently, though, the ability to file an application upon
economic hardship. That currently exists, it is just slightly
different.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: So you are amending that section a little
bit?
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: Yes. Some of the criteria has been
amended. It was in keeping with comments from people at the
historic preservation who had researched this, from other
jurisdictions, recognizing what is appropriate to apply for these
types of applications.
>>MARTIN SHELBY: If I may make a recommendation to council,
and I will take an opportunity to review this, the executive
summary is an excellent place to begin but I think Councilwoman
Alvarez raises an appropriate issue. Each council member has
their own experience with different projects, different issues.
And what the council might want to do when they look at it, is,
the best way to see how this applies is through practical
applications.
So based on your own experience, on issues that have come
up, if it's not decipherable, for instance, with regard to the
cigar factories, or the park, how would this new ordinance change
that? And see to your satisfaction does it address those issues
that need to be addressed? So that would be a good way to take a
look at this, practically.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Thank you. Okay. At this time, is it
continuing, the debate?
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: I had not completed my summary.
Ms. Alvarez looked like she had a question. I will continue on.
I apologize.
On Page 12 of the ordinance, there was a section on














emergency actions to protect buildings, sites and structures,
meeting the criteria for designation when there has been a permit
for demolition. This currently exists in the code. What we have
done is clarified when staff will be required to review those
demolitions and when the HPC will be required to review
applications. It permits applications for 50 years structures and
others, those are potentially eligible no landmark designation and
that is what triggers a review by staff.
There is a quick turnaround time by staff for review, five
days possible notification, that there has been an application for
demolition. Those that staff determines are possibly eligible or
are eligible for landmark designation are then reviewed by the
full commission. If staff determines that they are not eligible
for landmark demolition, they allow the demolition permit to
proceed. They don't hold it up.
Then we've just got a section on, it's on Page 14 of the
ordinance, applications to review designations of contributing
status. This deals when we establish historic districts. We
identify those structures that are considered contributing to the
district. And there are times when that status changes, such as
when a building is relocated. Upon relocation, it automatically
loses that contributing status designation, but they can reapply
for it when it's on the new site and we show it meets the criteria
for new status. So those are applications that may be filed with
the HPC.
We have created a new section that starts on Page 15 of the
ordinance that deals with notice requirements. In keeping with
council's direction to have uniform notice procedures for
different types of applications, we have pretty much mimicked the
language that currently exists in Chapter 27 for rezoning
petitions. The only difference is a 15-day notice period. Staff
was supportive of that. They felt they could meet their review
requirements even within a 15-day notice period. So that will be
the only area that is different from how we are dealing with
notice on other applications.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: You think 15 days is enough?
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: That's not really my call. Staff felt
it was adequate. Commission felt strongly about it.
I was recommending uniformity. I was overruled. But it's
not really a legal issue. Its was more, can you get the job you
need in that time period and is it adequate for the public? When
other members of the public were present at the meeting of the
HPC, they didn't express concern that it would not be adequate
notice.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: Does Burt Harris have anything to do with
this, the Burt Harris Act?
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: We looked at the Burt Harris Act in
dealing with different types of regulations established by local
government. I think every government lawyer keeps that in the
back of their mind when they're developing regulations. There is
not anything in here that gives me pause for concern that would
trigger a cause of action under Burt Harris. Just from what we've
written. That is, of course, a very case-specific issue. It
could possibly apply in the application of this ordinance to a
specific set of facts. But this ordinance itself doesn't give me
that type of concern at this point.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: Okay.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Just a clarification on that. Anytime
we're designating historic properties, because we're talking about
private properties, and especially as related again to the cigar














factories, there's always the potential for takings, a takings
action or a takings concern, under the constitution. I mean, I
think that's just a given.
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: That's an argument that can be made.
There's case law out there that supports that, for public purpose.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Absolutely.
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: Am I concerned that this ordinance could
create that cause of action? No. Could an argument be made?
Certainly, as you pointed out for a specific set of facts.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: That's a clarification I wanted to be
made.
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: Thank you, Mr. Dingfelder.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: There could be a takings case based upon
what we do, under this. Or any zoning or anything, for that
matter. But these are I think also very vulnerable to that sort
of thing.
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: On Page 17 of the ordinance, we have
created a section dealing with appeals from decisions of the HPC.
And that just talks about -- there are very few provisions in the
commission that are final and subject to appeal to this City
Council. Most of the HPC's authority is limited to making
recommendations to this council and thus, those recommendations
are not appealable, because you would be seeing those decisions in
any of them.
On Page 18, we have design --
>>MARY ALVAREZ: Wait. Why cannot they be appealed to the
City Council some? Tell me again?
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: Because they would be recommendations to
council, it would be awkward for City Council to both look at the
HPC recommendation and have an appeal of that decision. Because
it's not a final decision, there's no -- normally, only final
decisions and boards are appealable to another body. The HPC
makes recommendations and you ultimately get to make that
decision.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: Okay. Got you. Thank you.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: What are the circumstances -- what are
the exceptions?
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: The decisions on the contributing status
of homes, of properties. Those are usually final unless appealed
to council. I don't know that a decision like that has ever been
appealed to City Council.
And on Page 18 of the ordinance we have a section on design
guidelines. The HPC has always had the authority to develop
design guidelines for the historic districts and conservation
districts. But we didn't have a section of the code that actually
set out that how that happened. So we have created that section.
The iintent is for the design guidelines to be proposed at the
same time that the new historic district is proposed for
designation so that property owners who are going to be included
in that proposed historic district would know the level of
regulation that would attach.
And this also allows the HPC to periodically review existing
design guidelines and make recommendations for change. And, of
course, any design guidelines that are developed or revised, there
would be an opportunity for feedback from either the Architectural
Review Commission or the Barrio Latino Commission, since those are
the two commissions that would be implementing the design
guidelines. Those are all done at noticed public hearings.
The opportunity to be heard for the public to participate
exists all along. So when these guidelines come to council for














adoption, that would not be the first time the public would hear
about it. They would be involved in the process all along.
Then there's the section also on Page 18, the HPC usually
develops a one, two, and three-year work plan, identifying what
projects they wants to work on in the next one to three years.
This establishes the priorities of how we develop that work plan
and of which properties would receive a greater priority than
others. And again, that was the section -- the HPC always had the
authority to do that. We just didn't have a section of the code
that established how it was done, and it was policy to a certain
degree, so we are codifying existing policy.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Quick question on that. I would like to
talk with you about this, because I think there are times when
people come to council with concerns, and I think that it would be
appropriate for council to have the ability to bring something up
before the HPC.
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: Certainly. This doesn't limit it to
private property owners. Anybody can make a recommendation to the
HPC for inclusion on the work plan. Definitely.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Okay.
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: On Page 19, we've got a section on
demolition by neglect. This is something the HPC felt strongly
about. Essentially any buildings that are recommended for
designation by the HPC for landmark status or any buildings that
are on the work plan, there will be an affirmative duty on the
property owner to maintain that property from demolition, or from
decay that would then result in possible demolition. And it talks
about -- it goes into what areas are important for maintenance
purposes.
And then the final section on Page 20 of the ordinance, we
are adding and amending definitions that are specific to the
Historic Preservation Commission's work. And these definitions
were developed both with historic preservation staff and zoning
staff so staff is in agreement with this. Many of the definitions
came from the National Register criteria sore consist went with
definitions that are used throughout the United States.
And that concludes my presentation.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: I was curious. In a couple of different
sections, especially as related to maintenance and demolition by
neglect, I didn't see an enforcement or penalties provision. Is
there one here?
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: This is remaining in Chapter 27. So
enforcement would be as is applicable to other provisions of
Chapter 27 and that is through the Code Enforcement Board.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Well, especially as related to this
demolition by neglect, I am just wondering if there shouldn't be
some unique provisions here, because I don't know how you would --
how do you enthat? For example, making sure that the flooring and
floor supports are maintained? If that is interior to the
building, how do you even know? You know, Code Enforcement can't
see it. I mean... .
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: Well, that is something that I will take
back to staff and we will continue to discuss that because there
has been discussion object the level of enforcement and how this
is relevant.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'm not sure I agree with it, but I am
saying if we go to the trouble of putting this a provision like
this, maybe it needs some unique sister enforcement provisions to
go with it.
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: We can continue to look at that section.














Thank you.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Any other questions from council
members?
Ms. O'Dowd, how many weeks do you need for continuance?
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: With regard to the ARC portion the ARC
hearing is scheduled for August 11th. Ms. Miller was requesting a
date of August 11th. I don't know what your calendar looks like
for August 11th or thereafter. There is an Architectural Review
Commission's decision that has been appealed, and last week City
Council scheduled the appeal or public hearing for August 11th.
And that hearing touches on the issue that we were going to
workshop today with the ARC. So we were asking that that portion
of today's workshop be continued until after the appeal.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: This is a question for council members.
Should we take this up on the 25th? Or on September 1st we have
an opportunity to schedule -- what are we calling them these days,
Mr. Shelby -- workshops? Yes.
Do you-all think that this would be better to schedule for a
1:30 workshop, this and the ARC thing? Perhaps that would give
us -- give the public a time when they know they could come and
would allow us to speak more, with more time. So I think perhaps
September 1st at 1:30 would be a better time to schedule this,
even though that puts everything back.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Would that be okay, Ms. O'Doud?
>>CATHLEEN O'DOWD: Yes.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Move to schedule both these items for
September 1st at 1:30.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: I have a question. What does that mean
on our calendar it says "unknown" --
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: "Pending calendar"?
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Okay. But we have a regular meeting on
the 1st?
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Yes. We have a motion and second.
All in favor say aye?
[Motion Carried]. Thank you.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: We are going into public hearings.
Does anyone in the audience wish to speak on items 11 through 18?
Would you please stand and raise your right hand?
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Excuse me. Do we have -- (inaudible)
(sworn.)
>>MARTIN SHELBY: When you state your name, please reaffirm
the fact that you have been sworn. Thank you.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Item 11.
>>JULIA ^ : Good morning, council. Julia ^ , Legal
Department.
The appellant in this matter has failed to properly notice
the appeal. I have spoken with the appellant. He understands
that he failed to properly notify. I understand he was not going
to be here. He also understands that this would cause this appeal
to be dismissed with prejudice. He is not in the audience,
anyway. I would ask council to dismiss this item with prejudice,
since it failed to be properly noticed.
[Motion Carried].
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Item Number 12, would like to be
continued to July 28th. Anyone here to speak on item 12?
Ms. Ferlita?
>>ROSE FERLITA: I know it is going to be continued, but I
need to recuse myself and read this into the record anyway.
(Reading ) "I, Rose Ferlita, disclose that on June 30, 2005,
Major King (?) Came before my agency with business associate Della














Curry, legislative aid. Based on that I recuse from voting."
[Motion Carried].
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: We have a motion and second for 10:00
on July 28.
[Motion Carried]. With Ferlita abstaining.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Item 13, continue public hearing.
Staff?
>>JAMES COOK: James Cook, Land Coordination. I have been
sworn in. Petitioner is petitioning to vacate, close,
discontinue, and abandon in a line between Maxwell Avenue and
Jackson Street. This is a small sliver where Maxwell runs into
it. This is Washington on the north, Jackson on the front. This
is the proposed Meridian project on the east. This is a shot of
Maxwell looking north from Washington towards Jackson. This is a
shots of Maxwell looking south from Jackson. Maxwell is only the
piece from here to the fence, with Jackson over here, they kind of
merge together.
This is another shot of Maxwell looking south from Jackson
street. And this is the portion of Maxwell approaching Meridian.
This is a shot of Washington looking west from Nebraska.
I'm told now that this piece is also being punched through to
Meridian avenue by the project. And that's a shot of Maxwell
Avenue looking south from Washington.
Petitioner has agreed to all conditions, so staff has no
objections.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I have a question of petitioner. Which
is, first of all, I have lived here my whole life and I have never
heard of Maxwell. I just wondered, is this through the Expressway
Authority? That's for petitioner.
>>TED TAUB: Good morning, Madam Chairman, members of the
council. My name is Ted Taub with Shumaker, Loop and Kendrick,
401 East Kennedy Boulevard, Tampa, I have been sworn.
The petitioner, Mr. Castellano, has owned this business for
many, many years. The genesis of this request was that some of
his customers were using some of that parking on what was not
known to be even city right of way. Everybody thought Maxwell
street or Maxwell Avenue had been abandoned God knows how many
years ago. And so in order to alleviate the problem of his
customers not getting tickets from the City of Tampa, it was
determined that the best thing to do was to ask for vacation.
We have been through -- we appreciate all the continuances
that have been done for the reason of trying to work out as many
things as possible. We were at the DOT out at McKinley on Monday.
They provided a letter from Rick Vickers to council. It's in the
file. So we agree with the recommendations and ask for your
approval.
>>ROLAND SANTIAGO: No, ma'am, I don't have anything to add.
I have received a report. Just got the report a couple days ago.
Based on council's preference, I would be glad to prepare an
ordinance and present it after the break.
>>ROSE FERLITA: I was just looking at the literature, and I
see the one objection from FDOT was removed. Is that correct,
Mr. Taub?
>>TED TAUB: There is a letter over Mr. Vickers --
>>ROSE FERLITA: You don't even need to bother doing that.
I see FDOT eliminated their objection.
>>TED TAUB: Yes, ma'am.
>>ROSE FERLITA: That means I would be happy to send it to
Legal.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Do we have a motion to close?














(Motion made, seconded and carried.)
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: We need a motion to send it to --
>>ROSE FERLITA: I would be happy to do that. Go ahead,
Linda.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you. Mr. Taub, it is a pleasure to
see you. It's been a while, and I will move to send this to
legal.
(Motion made, seconded and carried.)
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Item 14 is a continuation.
>>TED TAUB: Thank you very much.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: You are welcome.
>>JAMES COOK: James Cook, Land Coordination. I have been
sworn in. We are requesting that 14 and 15 be open together,
since they are related.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Both of them are continued. We need
to open them.
>>JAMES COOK: This is a joint petition between the City of
Tampa and FDOT. We are requesting to vacate a north-south alley
between Lamar Avenue lying south of Oak Avenue with portions of
Campbell street which is an alleyway, Ross avenue, and park
avenue. This is the north-south Alley. It lies between Oak and
7th Avenue, East Central. DOT owns property on both sides. This
is a shot of the alley looking south from Oak Avenue towards 7th
Avenue. This is a shot of the alley looking north from Oak. This
is the block that contains the alley. This is the block that
actually runs from south to north this is the block north of that
block that shows the alley does continue north across Oak Avenue.
This is a shot of FDOT property across 7th Avenue from the
alleyway. And these are portions of the streets.
Once again, FDOT owns all the property shading in red. This
is Frances avenue, Campbell street, which is really an alleyway.
Park avenue and Ross avenue. This is the interstate to the east.
That is a shot of Frances avenue looking east towards 275. That's
a shot of Frances dead-ending into the interstate. This is
actually the piece we're vacating or ask that it be vacated. This
is a shot of Frances looking west from the interstate towards
grove street. This is from the FDOT property that abuts Frances
on the north side. This is a shot of FDOT process abutting
property from the south south. Some more, FDOT property from the
south side.
A couple more photos. Another shot of FDOT property running
from Frances on the south. Unimproved Grove Street runs through
here. We are not asking to vacate that. This is a shot of
Campbell street looking east from 275 to Grove Street. A shot of
Campbell street dead-ending into the interstate. This is a shot
of Campbell looking west from the interstate towards Grove. This
is a shot of Grove street which is unimproved looking north from
Campbell street towards Frances avenue. This is a shot of Grove
Street looking south from Frances towards Campbell. This is Park
Avenue looking east towards the interstate. And this is Park as
it dead-ends into the interstate. And this is Park looking west
from the interstate towards central. And this is some of the
property abutting FDOT from Park on the north side. And this is
FDOT property abutting Park on the south side. This is another
shot of FDOT property abutting Park on the south side. This is
another shot of FDOT property abutting Park on the south side.
A few more. This is a shot of Ross looking east towards the
interstate. This is Ross as it dead-ends into the interstate.
This is Ross looking west towards Lamar avenue. And this is a
shot of FDOT property abutting Ross on the south side. And this














is the shot of FDOT property abutting Ross on the north side.
This is in conjunction where the Tampa Heights greenway project.
And Denise Layne is here representing FDOT to speak on this
matter. Two houses in those pictures have been approved by ARC to
be removed and relocated.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: That was my question.
>>ROSE FERLITA: Mr. Cook, thank you for your thoroughness.
I think you must have stayed at this location overnight to take
all of those pictures!
>>DENISE LAYNE: Denise Layne, consultant for the
transportation department. I have been sworn in. The two
vacatings we have been talking about are part of a long-awaited
plan that the Department of Transportation has been working with
in conjunction with the City of Tampa as it relates to Tampa
Heights greenway. If you recall, in early 1990s, the Department
of Transportation came to grips with the fact that they did not
have the funds to fill the ultimate downtown interchange. As a
result, we are constructing what you see now as the interim. As
part of the ultimate, the Tampa Heights community was going to
have an adjacent greenway. And since we were not building the
ultimate, we were not required to do that. However, the
Department of Transportation felt that since they had made a
commitment to the community, they went ahead and requested early
acquisition funds to start acquiring property for the ultimate
downtown interchange and used -- set $2 million aside of state
money to acquire the property, working with the community to
identify property immediately adjacent to the interstate that
would then create a buffer area that would then allow for a
greenway.
So we have at this point purchased the land, spent the $2
million purchasing property. We have completed the design, and we
are ready to begin construction the end of July, actually, this
July. And everything should be completed by March 2006 when the
downtown interchange is constructed, when it is completed also.
So it is finally coming about. The work that's included that
we'll be doing out there as part of the whole greenway is
demolition work.
We will be pulling out the streets, if you approve the
vacating. We will be bringing in dirt, abraiding the arbitration
putting in landscapings to a tune of 1.5 million dollars. At that
point in time, the vacating, if you approve it today -- for
instance, if you go to the Elmo -- the part we are talking about
on Campbell here and also on Park, this area here gives you about
a 300-foot-long area that is the size of a football field,
basically for the community.
The Parks Department will finance putting in the trail, and
that has to be funded. But in the meant, even before the trail is
put in, there will be a landscaped, attractive area that, the
community can recreate in and use for community facilities. So
the City of Tampa, we already have an agreement, the City of Tampa
Parks Department will be maintaining the area after we put in the
irrigation and landscaping. So the vacating today, if approved,
will help bring all of this together and provide a nicer area for
the community. Thank you.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: You always come through. This is one
project that I know Tampa Heights is really looking forward to,
and they deserve this, because of all the trepidations they have
gone through with the interstate going through and all. This is
one wonderful plan. And I am sure you thought of it.
>>DENISE LAYNE: Oh, I don't know about that. It has been














in the works for a very, very long time back with the preservation
board and the community itself. I think I just helped facilitate
it.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: Well, I am really pleased with the plan. I
am pleased that FDOT has come through again with especially in a
historic district like this. So I personally want to thank you
and, of course, FDOT.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you. I echo what Ms. Alvarez
said. It is so much more thoughtful a buffer than we have ever
had in the past and it will be an advantage to the neighborhood.
I think Martha Sherman and Stephanie Farrell initially developed
this when the interstate widening seemed far in the future. It
was at least ten years ago and it's nice to see it come to
fruition. Thank you.
>>ROSE FERLITA: This might be a good time to send a message
back to Ken Hartman. We all went to his retirement luncheon last
week; and if you can convey to him again the council's thanks for
all the years he put in working with the city in terms of FDOT.
>>DENISE LAYNE: Absolutely. But he's got another good guy
coming right behind him.
>>ROSE FERLITA: I understand. But send our regard for his
efforts.
>>ROLAND SANTIAGO: I am here for 511, 512. I have prepared
the ordinances pursuant to the reports I received. I have
witnessed these folks negotiating this, working very hard, I echo
their sentiments. This has been an intense project. Both
ordinance are here and I give it to the clerk and distribute
copies to yourselves.
>>Move to close public hearing.
[Motion Carried].
>>MARY ALVAREZ: Move an ordinance vacating, closing,
discontinuing, and abandoning north of 7th Avenue, east of Central
Ave., and west of I-275, Oak Ridge Subdivision, a subdivision
located in City of Tampa, Hillsborough County, Florida, the same
same in section 2 hereof, providing an effective date.
[Motion Carried].
>>KEVIN WHITE: Move an ordinance vacating, closing,
discontinuing, and abandoning all portions of rose avenue, Park
Avenue, Campbell street, lying north and south of Amelia avenue,
Palm Avenue, Central Avenue, in Fleharty subdivision, a
subdivision located in City of Tampa, Hillsborough County,
Florida, providing an effective date.
[Motion Carried].
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Need to open item 16.
[Motion Carried].
>>RON IBARRA : Good morning. Ron Ibarra ^ with
Historic Preservation. I am here for item 16 and 17. And I have
been sworn. Motion to open 16 and 17.
[Motion Carried].
>>RON IBARRA: I have two packets to submit and file. Item
16, this property is a contributing -- this house is a
contributing structure located in Ybor City historic district.
The building was moved in 2002 from 2001 east 15th avenue to 2702
east 15th avenue. This property qualifies because it is listed on
the National Register of Historic Places.
Briefly I want to go through some photos. This is photo of
the exterior of front elevation before the move. This is after
the move.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Would you do that again?
>>ROSE FERLITA: The reason she wanted to see it again is














those trees are not there anymore.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: It looks so much better.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: That's like my old house I used to live
when I was a kid.
>>RON IBARRA: Going to the interior.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: My kitchen didn't look like that.
>>RON IBARRA: And then after. And those two photos, last
two, interior condition before the move, and then after
rehabilitation.
>>: Wow, look at those floors.
>>RON IBARRA: This application is consistent with the
Secretary of Interior's standards for rehabilitation and standard
guidelines for rehabilitation buildings. It meets the criteria
established by Department of State. The improvements equal or
exceed $10,000, and this project is consistent with historic
property tax exemption ordinance as submitted. And that
concludes.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Do 17 too.
>>RON IBARRA: This also is a contributing fracture located
in Ybor City historic district. These buildings were placed side
by side. This building was moved in 2002 from 1915 East 15th
avenue to 1704 East 15th avenue. Going through the photos
briefly, this is a duplex. And the remainder of the duplex at
that location. Some interior photos again showing the walls, the
window surrounds, and a little bit of the flooring.
And the last series of photos, this is the kitchen showing
the deteriorated state. And then the kitchen as it exists now.
If you notice, that's the Cuban tile that was retained. It was
refinished and retained, and that is the same flooring in the
Italian club. This project also meets the Secretary of Interior's
standards for rehabilitation and reviewing the project, it meets
the criteria of the Department of State as well and staff
recommends that this project is consistent with the City of Tampa
historic property tax exemption ordinance as submitted. And that
concludes the presentation.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Anyone in the audience wish to speak
on items 16 or 17?
[Motion Carried].
[Motion Carried].
>>ROSE FERLITA: Move an ordinance approving historic
preservation property tax exemption application relative to the
restoration, rehabilitation for certain property owned by the
Florida Department of Transportation located at 1702 East 15th
avenue Tampa, Florida in the Ybor City historic district based on
certain findings, provided for notice of the property appraisal
for Hillsborough County, providing for severability, providing an
effective date.
[Motion Carried] close public hearing.
>>SHAWN HARRISON: Move an ordinance approving historic
preservation property tax exemption application relative to
restoration, rehabilitation of certain property owned by Florida
Department of Transportation, located at 1704 East 15th avenue
Tampa, Florida, in the Ybor City historic district, based upon
certain findings, providing for notice of the property appraiser
of Hillsborough County, providing for severability, providing for
all conflicts, providing an effective date.
[Motion Carried].
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Open number 18.
[Motion Carried].
>>HEATHER LAMBOY ^ : Thank you. Heather Lamboy ^ , Land














Development, I was previously sworn.
The subject site is located at the south of the University
of Tampa, southwest corner of Hyde Park Avenue and State Road 60,
which is also known as Kennedy Boulevard.
As you may recall, last year, this council approved a
student housing building at the site. The petitioner discovered
that in order to comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act,
some of the units needed to be altered and the building design was
affected. Those alterations qualified as a substantial change and
qualified to be reviewed by this body.
The changes were a substantial reduction of the west setback
from 6 feet 1 inch to 4 feet. And the floor area increased from
52,000 square feet to 60,000 square feet. It is important to
note -- and this is the rendering of the property -- that the
existing grand tree on the site will be preserved and will remain
untouched. I have no further comments.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Petitioner?
>>ANDREA ZELMAN: Andrea Zelman, Fowler White, 501 East
Kennedy. As Heather explained, she already explained the reasons
we needed these changes. Again it is just a slight change to the
recent setback, increase in square footage. There is also a note
added to the site plan about the TECO transformer date that has to
be kept open. The project is already under construction, and we
very much appreciate the fact that staff and council has expedited
this hearing so we can move forward. The changes were made
because it has to be so narrow to protect the tree which needs
additional support, which made the rooms smaller, which did not
comply with ADA and Fair Housing Act. So they had to make
changes.
I have one of the members of the development group here. We
would be glad to answer any questions. Thank you for moving this
along so quickly.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you, Ms. Zelman. I think council
is so much happier with this, an extra two feet on the side is not
an issue. Looking at this rendering and the building next to it,
it is interesting how things are drawn, looks like this building
is a lot shorter than the building immediately to the east, but I
believe they are about the same height. I was wondering if you
know.
>>HEATHER LAMBOY: I am looking at the architect.
>>ROSE FERLITA: I think it is the way it is projected.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I was just wondering.
>>ERIC CARER ^ : I am Eric Carer ^ , from Tampa, Florida.
I don't think your Elmo is right. Because if you look at the
picture, it actually looks taller than it does in the Elmo.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: My question is just how tall is the
building across the street?
>>ERIC CARER: Our building is taller than the building
across the street. Thank you.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I thought so. It is a much bigger
building. Thank you.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Anyone wish to speak on item 18? We
have a motion to close.
[Motion Carried].
>>MARY ALVAREZ: I think we ought to give Ms. Saul-Sena a
round of applause for doing her job on this building. If it
wasn't for her, we would have taken that tree out of there --
>>ROSE FERLITA: Listen, she already got a commendation.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: No, I think because of her, the design was
improved tremendously, and I applaud her for that.














>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: And it is the best fencing around that
protected treatment.
>>ROSE FERLITA: In lieu of the fact we don't have a trophy
to give, maybe you would like to read this. Because we don't have
anything to give you.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Move an ordinance rezoning property in
the general vicinity of 404 West Kennedy Boulevard, City of Tampa,
more particularly described in Section 1, rezoning from PD student
housing dormitory to PD student housing dormitory, providing an
effective date.
[Motion Carried].
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Item 19. Who is going to help me out
on this.
>>ROSE FERLITA: Memo for attorney to appear and provide.
>>: I believe there was a memo requesting this item be
delayed.
>>MARTIN SHELBY: Requesting July 28th.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: We need a motion. That motion is
seconded. All in favor.
[Motion Carried].
[Motion Carried].
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Number 22. Ms. Saul-Sena?
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you. We received a written memo
with the dates of the public conversations about those three
sites. I was really pleased. One is at the convention center.
The next is at the Art Museum. The public is welcome to attend.
And my assumption is that the public input will be considered in
the point of decision-making and I think that that's very
appropriate.
When we were doing the SOM plan, maybe 300 people showed up
for some of the public conversations that led to the SOM plan and
I thought that our local community should have the input about
where these community amenities go. And I think that the Art
Museum is really important, and I encourage people to come, and I
encourage the administration to consider the public input when
they -- and the Art Museum board to consider the public input when
they determine where the Art Museum will be placed.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Thank you. Item 24, we need a vote.
Do we need all council members present to for that one?
Item 24, we are just going to vote. All in favor say aye.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Excuse me, are we voting in affirmative
or deny?
>>MARTIN SHELBY: If we could, just have it clear, this item
was closed as a first public hearing. The motion was to deny. So
if you are in favor of denial, you vote yea. If you don't want to
deny it, you vote nay.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Those in favor of denying vote yea.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Yea.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: All in favor not to deny, vote no.
>>ROSE FERLITA: I am really confused.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: What's confusing?
>>ROSE FERLITA: The motion is to deny?
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: If you want to deny, you say yes.
>>ROSE FERLITA: I do. Yes.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: If you do not want to deny, you say
no. Those in favor to deny, vote yes.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Yes.
>>ROSE FERLITA: Yes.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Those opposed to denial, vote no.
>>KEVIN WHITE: No.














>>SHAWN HARRISON: No.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: No.
>>ROSE FERLITA: I'm not going to miss anymore. It's too
confusing.
>>MARTIN SHELBY: Now what you have is a motion or you have
no action, but you have a first reading if council wishes to go
forward. What has to happen now is, a motion to bring back --
well, what has to happen is someone has to make a motion to
approve it and before you vote, it should be read.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Okay. We need you.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: Do I have it? Okay. I have it.
>>SHAWN HARRISON: Move an ordinance providing rezoning for
north 27th Street in Tampa, Florida and more particularly RS 60
residential single family to RS 50, residential single family,
providing an effective date, 9207 north 27th Street.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: We have a motion and second. All in
favor?
We go to information from council members.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I like would recognize Rebecca Hynes.
She is a senior at rose college, will be a senior in urban
studies. This will probably be her last day as intern, and I want
to recognize her . Thank you.
>>SHAWN HARRISON: Apparently earlier, Madam Chair, I skipped
Number 92 on the agenda, so I will do it now. Move 92.
[Motion Carried].
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Anything else?
>>SHAWN HARRISON: No, ma'am.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: Just a couple of things. This Saturday at
10:30, 11:00, there will be the renaming of the Villa Brothers
Park on what used to be West Pine and Armenia Avenue, and
everybody is invited to attend.
Also, the city apartments with the Westshore Alliance for
the Single Bob Spark Plug Project ^ -- if you haven't seen them,
they are tremendous, beautiful. One is on the corner of Columbus
Drive and Himes. Take a look at it. It is the city skyline. The
other one is on the Tampa Bay Boulevard and Himes, and that looks
like a treasure chest. It's beautiful.
And yesterday, when I went by there, they were working on
the one on MLK and Himes, and they were just painting that. But
the Westshore Alliance has taken this project with the help of Ron
Roltella, and he has gotten corporate sponsors to do these boxes
that are on city property. There are 17 boxes in the Westshore
area that they're going to be working on. So I think it's a
really good thing and I want to congratulate Ron Rotella for
taking the lead on that.
Also, this week for the month of July, City of Tampa Parks
and Recreation Month here in downtown at Lykes Park, beginning at
11:30 a.m. I think that's a good thing, so that's all I've got.
>>ROSE FERLITA: I lost what I had to say.
>>KEVIN WHITE: I would just like to see that Mr. Dingfelder
got his information on Number 55, so I can move on to my committee
after that hiatus.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Yes, 55 was legal fees that we got from
Richard Szabo on McKay Bay, $136,000. I just have to review some
of his bills. It appears that he sort of is a pass-through for an
outfit in Washington, D.C. called Casey Associates that is a
consultants that appears we paid approximately $3,000 per month
perhaps for their services. So I'm going to go ahead and move
this for approval.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Mr. White, that's his committee.














>>JOHN DINGFELDER: I will go ahead and second your motion
to approve it. But I have strong questions about it. This is
payment of old bills, mainly, but as we progress, I think
Mr. Smith and I are going to have some conversations about this
bill. Especially this consultant because it is very sketchy in
regard to this pass-through.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you. I want to thank you,
Mr. Dingfelder, for looking into that. And if you have anything
to share with us after you converse with Mr. Smith, I would be
very interested to hear.
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: Thank you,.
>>KEVIN WHITE: I would like to move 50 and 55 on the
agenda. Second.
[Motion Carried]
>>KEVIN WHITE: Other than that, I don't have any other
information other than to wish our citizens a very happy, safe,
wonderful 4th of July.
>>ROSE FERLITA: I found it. I want to make a comment about
that signal box project. I congratulate Mr. Rotella, I think, but
I will have to see if he is in violation of a sign committee he
sits on so we will talk about the details, he and I. Just
kidding.
Anyway, this is an early reminder. But because of the fact
that we are talking about code enforcements in the neighborhoods,
et cetera. I don't know what emphasis this has had with the
public, summer heat, July 2122, 23, put on by the Code Enforcement
with the Department of Public Works, Parks and Rereaction, Solid
Waste, Clean Neighborhoods, et cetera, et cetera.
Anyway, they were having clean sweep of neighborhoods from
North Rome to North Himes to Columbus Drive to south boundary at
I-275 checking on egregious violations. But at the same time
there will be educational displays that people can benefit from.
Homeowners can put their items on curbside and they are asking for
volunteers, and I think we need to bring this up again next week
after the holiday. Then the following week. Okay, not the
following either. Will we be back by July 20th? That's when we
will be remember. I think it is exemplary of what the
administration has been talking about. Not just this department's
job or this one. We have a whole slew of different departments to
do this. They are going to catch Code Enforcement people that are
violators and also clean up the neighborhoods at no charge. I
will try to bring that up when we resume. Thank you.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Anything else?
>>ROSE FERLITA: That's it.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: I forgot. I had something else. I don't
know whether you-all had seen it, but there was an article that
came in through the Internet where it's called "Two Grants Dry Up,
At-Risk Youth Might Lose." It's based on the nonprofit
organizations in East Tampa where the grants from the neighborhood
department they funded the youth movement known as YO and the
other is grant from financial service company CapitalOne that
supported the afterschool learning program in the East Tampa
Learning Center.
To me I think that's a travesty when you have at-risk youths
and you have a labor department that are drying up grants to help
these children. I don't know what we can do about it, but I
certainly want to take a stand here and say this is not the thing
to do. Because you've got kids that are at risk, and they start
at quite an early age. And when you take away funding for a
program that is absolutely needed, it is incomprehensible to me














that something like that could really happen. So I don't know
what we can do about it by I certainly would like to like to ask
the administration to look night to see if we can't do some
funding for them.
Especially, one of these is Coney Coey ^ . You know how
hard she works in her area and for grants that she's worked so
hard for. To dry up is not a good thing. So I would like to make
a motion to have the administration to look into seeing if we can
do some funding for them.
(Seconded, carried.)
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: I don't have anything to add but I wish
everybody a happy holiday.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Yes.
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: I have one thing, I have a student
from the University of South Florida who has been working for East
Tampa. Her name is Amanda Costantino, and she wanted to come
before council September 8th to update us on East Tampa.
(Motion made, second, carried.)
>>KEVIN WHITE: A two-hour presentation? (Laughter).
>>ROSE FERLITA: Right, and she's going to moderate.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: On item 17.
>>THE CLERK: We have a memo by Susan Johnson requesting 30
days. We have a motion and second to rescind. Move to receive
and file all documents.
Move it be continued for 30 days? To 25th of August? Just
a resolution.
>>We have a motion and second. All in favor say aye.
>>THE CLERK: I also have an ordinance presented for first
reading on a closure petition that was approved by council on May
19 for a property that's located at the intersection of Jamaica
avenue and Pine Street. The motion for preparation of the
ordinance was unanimous and it needs to be based on first reading.
(So moved.)
>>MARY ALVAREZ: Move an ordinance vacating, closing,
discontinuing, and abandoning certain right of way, all that
portion of alleyway lying east of the intersection of Jamaica
avenue and Pine Street in the map of MacFarlane Park in the City
of Tampa, Florida, Hillsborough County, Florida, the same more
fully described in Section 2 hereof, providing an effective date.
[Motion Carried]
>>THE CLERK: Motion then to receive and file all the items.
[Motion Carried].
>>CHAIR GWEN MILLER: Anything else coming before council?
We will go to our audience portion. You may come up and
speak.
(Ended at 11:39 a.m.)