Tampa City Council
Thursday, January 19, 2006
8:30 a.m. CRA session
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08:43:28 >>MARY ALVAREZ:
08:43:28 The Community Redevelopment Agency is now called to
08:43:31 Roll call please.
08:43:33 [Roll Call]
08:43:34 >>MARY ALVAREZ: This morning, we are going to hear
08:43:36 from Mike Chen.
08:43:41 >>> Good morning.
08:43:43 You have two items on your -- on your agenda this
08:43:47 morning for the CRA board meeting.
08:43:49 We'll start with the first.
08:43:51 It deals with the amendments proposed for the CRA plan
08:43:54 for the old Tampa police station site, sometimes
08:44:01 commonly referred to as Tampa Heights.
08:44:06 In looking through the existing CRA plan, it was kind
08:44:10 of another project that was associated with the
08:44:13 creation of CRA at the time.
08:44:15 And while CRA plans should be broad and generic, there
08:44:20 were a few items that kind of crept into the wording
08:44:23 of the plan that reflected the anticipated project.
08:44:27 So as we were doing the amendments, we first wanted to
08:44:32 make the wording broad and general that would
08:44:37 accommodate the new proposed project that's coming up,
08:44:40 but not be specific to that project, so that the city
08:44:46 would have flexibility even after setting the project
08:44:57 or still have a CRA plan that's broad and general that
08:44:59 we can manage and react to.
08:45:01 So with that, I would like to introduce a
08:45:04 representative from the proposed Tampa Heights project
08:45:07 development that will give you kind of a fresh update
08:45:11 on the status and concepts associated with that
08:45:24 >> I'm Meg Collins, the project manager.
08:45:30 I just want to take a few moments to give you an
08:45:32 introduction and catch you up to speed on the status
08:45:35 of this project.
08:45:51 As most of you are aware, I just wanted to briefly
08:45:53 point out the approximate boundaries of the project.
08:45:56 We are bound on the west side by North Boulevard, on
08:45:59 the north by Ross, on the east side by Tampa street,
08:46:03 and all the way down to the river.
08:46:06 And this graphic also shows the portion of the
08:46:08 riverwalk proposed to build.
08:46:14 I'm going to go through just a few conceptual
08:46:17 graphics, and keep in mind these are all conceptual in
08:46:20 We are not married to any architectural standards or
08:46:23 any of the site standards at this point.
08:46:26 As you can see from this graphic, we are proposing to
08:46:29 realign the streets through the project to take
08:46:32 advantage of the view corridors of downtown and of the
08:46:38 And also I wanted to point out that the streets are
08:46:40 also aligned with the -- this will replace the
08:46:51 somewhat defunct large defunctional street grid that
08:46:57 exists today.
08:46:58 A view of the project looking from the south to the
08:47:01 north, as you can see, we are proposing to build about
08:47:06 25 boat slips.
08:47:08 You will see the park on the right there, and a couple
08:47:12 of the historic buildings that we are proposing to
08:47:14 renovate, the Tampa armature works building which is
08:47:17 the old Tampa trolley barn, and the water works
08:47:21 building which is part of the park.
08:47:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I have a question.
08:47:32 On the slips, is that just going to be limited to your
08:47:41 Or is it going to be available to the general public?
08:47:45 >>> To be honest with you, we haven't really ironed
08:47:47 out those details at this time.
08:47:50 There are several options.
08:47:51 Obviously we have been talking to the City of Tampa
08:47:53 about further opportunities to do some joint projects
08:47:57 with the city.
08:47:58 But at this point the reason why we have 25 slips is
08:48:00 to keep us under the DRI threshold.
08:48:04 So we really have not ironed out the details of this.
08:48:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Because it appears that the
08:48:09 location of them seems to be branching off of areas
08:48:14 that perhaps are either adjacent to or actually part
08:48:19 of the city property.
08:48:24 >>> Actually the location of the slips has changed,
08:48:27 shifted to the west because of the depth of the river.
08:48:30 This is just a conceptual graphic.
08:48:32 >>MICHAEL CHEN: Yes, there are discussions that will
08:48:39 be made out as we discuss the development agreement on
08:48:46 But there is a discussion about the city perhaps
08:48:49 participating in the addition of some slips to their
08:48:55 current concept.
08:48:56 It is my understanding, although I have not seen the
08:48:59 graphic from the picture that you just had, but it is
08:49:02 my understanding that the proximity of the slips has
08:49:05 moved to the north and west that would be attached to
08:49:09 the developer's land as opposed to city land.
08:49:11 So access to those slips would be through there.
08:49:14 But it's also through a public corridor.
08:49:16 Because the concept has a wide band of public space
08:49:20 around most of the river's edge.
08:49:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: We are all reading about the
08:49:26 increasing shortage of slips that are available to the
08:49:28 general public to rent.
08:49:31 I mean, the general public shouldn't necessarily have
08:49:33 it for free, but -- so I think if we haven't already
08:49:39 negotiated that point, I think we need to give it
08:49:41 serious consideration as we go.
08:49:45 >>> It has not been finalized by certainly the mix of
08:49:47 public versus private slips has been in our discussion
08:49:53 and will continue to be through the drafting of the
08:49:53 development agreement.
08:49:53 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Please continue.
08:50:04 >>> Again just a couple of conceptual graphics that
08:50:07 really talk to the nature of the project, the
08:50:08 pedestrian friendliness, all of the streets have
08:50:11 on-street parking.
08:50:12 And as you can see just from the feel of the streets
08:50:15 in here, it is very urban in nature, fairly dense.
08:50:21 Again, another graphic, this one showing the river on
08:50:24 the right and the retail that we are proposing to
08:50:26 build along extension 7th Avenue on the left.
08:50:34 Here's an aerial of the conceptual site plan.
08:50:37 I just want to point out that everything that we are
08:50:39 talking about here today is just phase 1.
08:50:42 Phase 2 is really still conceptual in nature and will
08:50:45 be talked about at a later date.
08:50:47 And also phase 1 is also the -- everything to the east
08:50:51 of North Boulevard is what's included in the CRA.
08:50:58 As you know, we are also seeking to rezone the
08:51:01 property which will be discussed at a later date.
08:51:04 But just briefly, the proposed site program that we
08:51:09 are asking for is 160,000 square feet of office,
08:51:13 100,000 square feet of commercial, 1900 residential
08:51:17 units, and again the 25 boat slips.
08:51:19 This combination of uses here keeps us under the DRI
08:51:23 threshold, which as you know is something that we may
08:51:26 want to do.
08:51:27 I also want to point out that 10% of the housing units
08:51:29 will be set aside for affordable housing.
08:51:36 Again, the zoning application, the three regions that
08:51:39 we are proposing to rezone are based on underlook
08:51:42 lying land use.
08:51:43 And also the reason I wanted to mention this is
08:51:45 because the zones in the CRA are also based on the
08:51:47 same underlying land use areas.
08:51:55 As you can imagine, there's a slew of entitlements
08:51:59 that are required for this project.
08:52:00 The CRA amendment, this being one of them.
08:52:03 Our intent is to go ahead and take care of all these
08:52:06 entitlements roughly at the same time for efficiency
08:52:08 purposes, and just to expedite the process.
08:52:16 The CRA, this is a map of the CRA boundaries shown
08:52:19 here in blue, and the project boundary here shown
08:52:24 shaded in red.
08:52:24 And as you can see, the only part of the CRA that was
08:52:31 not part of the project is this one block here.
08:52:35 On the northeast side, which is a block, as you may
08:52:42 know, which has some really large and nice Victorian
08:52:46 homes, Fernandez and the garden home, and then also
08:52:51 Stetson university to the southeast.
08:52:53 And this is pretty much phase 1 of our project.
08:53:00 The CRA itself was initially established in March of
08:53:04 1999 when the city did a study and declared the area
08:53:08 was blighted.
08:53:10 The TIF was not passed until May of last year.
08:53:14 And here's just a couple of quotes from the CRA.
08:53:18 As you know, the purpose of a CRA is to make it more
08:53:23 conducive for redevelopment for the area.
08:53:27 And we'll get into some of the changes a little bit
08:53:30 later on.
08:53:34 Another thing we wanted to point out was that the
08:53:36 neighborhood itself came together just after the
08:53:38 establishment of the initial CRA to make their own
08:53:41 neighborhood concept plan.
08:53:43 And this was really the first of its kind in the city.
08:53:47 And Mary young-green is here from the neighborhood.
08:53:56 She was instrumental in getting this passed.
08:53:58 It was a three year plan adopted in '99 and adopted by
08:54:02 City Council in 2003.
08:54:03 We have had over a hundred public meetings and have
08:54:05 been working with them hand in hand to make sure that
08:54:08 our plan comports with theirs.
08:54:12 This graphic here shows the actual plan that I just
08:54:15 talked about, in our redevelopment area here in red.
08:54:26 Just a summary of the changes that you are going to
08:54:27 see that we are proposing to make to the CRA.
08:54:32 I want to acknowledge the consistency between our plan
08:54:34 and the neighborhood plan.
08:54:38 There was also some very specific information about
08:54:43 pipe sizes and other infrastructure that's no longer
08:54:47 valid, so we removed that language.
08:54:49 And just some outdated information about the Tampa
08:54:53 Police Department which no longer exists there
08:54:57 And also each region of the CRA we are proposing to
08:55:00 make various changes to depending on the highest and
08:55:05 best use of that particular region.
08:55:10 We'll come back to this a little bit later.
08:55:14 Again the development schedule, I know that everyone
08:55:21 is very eager to get this riverwalk started, and we
08:55:24 are proposing to begin construction on the sea wall
08:55:28 portion of that just as soon as we can get the permit,
08:55:31 and then we will just roll right into site
08:55:35 development, and then later the vertical builders who
08:55:39 will come in and build the actual buildings.
08:55:44 Just a couple of notes about historic preservation.
08:55:46 Again, there's two prominent historic buildings
08:55:50 We have hired Stephani Ferrell, a renowned historic
08:55:54 architect, to take a look at these two buildings and
08:55:57 to come up for a plan for adoptive reuse. This was
08:56:01 the old TECO trolley barn which is now an industrial
08:56:05 park in the process of being cleaned up.
08:56:07 And the water works building which I think is a city
08:56:10 building that's currently vacant.
08:56:16 Just briefly, the riverwalk, we are proposing to build
08:56:19 a little over a mile of the riverwalk, which is
08:56:22 actually two-thirds of the total existing riverwalk to
08:56:25 be built.
08:56:27 It goes from North Boulevard bridge all the way down
08:56:29 to Cass Street.
08:56:30 So it's a very large portion of the riverwalk.
08:56:38 The park here that you can see down on the
08:56:41 southeastern corner is approximately a 3-acre park.
08:56:44 It got some very nice amenities, it has a natural
08:56:46 spring, and we are proposing to enhance that spring
08:56:51 and bring this park back to life.
08:56:53 Of course bringing the riverwalk through it.
08:56:55 This is a plan that the city actually looked at back
08:56:58 in 2004 and hired Hardeman Landscape Architects, and
08:57:05 we have also retained them to continue to redesign the
08:57:08 plan to incorporate the riverwalk and a few other key
08:57:12 features that we would like to see.
08:57:15 So that is the overview.
08:57:18 And I would be glad to answer any questions.
08:57:20 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Questions, Mr. Dingfelder.
08:57:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I defer to Ms. Saul-Sena.
08:57:25 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I have been working with the Tampa
08:57:27 Heights neighborhood for years prior to them getting
08:57:29 the plan to the Planning Commission, and you all
08:57:32 coming along, and this project is so attractive, and
08:57:36 would create such a positive transformation on our
08:57:40 part of the river that had been just sort of the
08:57:43 sleepy industrial brownfield.
08:57:45 It is so exciting.
08:57:46 And I look forward to the different components come
08:57:50 It's really an exciting plan.
08:57:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A couple of questions.
08:57:56 When I saw the quick sketch of the riverwalk that
08:58:00 you're building, are there any gaps, are there any
08:58:04 bridges that you are not able to do in this section
08:58:06 that you're committed to?
08:58:09 >>> No, there's a couple of bridges that we need to be
08:58:12 creative about how to get over or under these bridges.
08:58:16 But, no, it's a continuous piece.
08:58:19 >> So your engineers have resolved those conflicts?
08:58:22 >>> Yes.
08:58:25 They're working on it.
08:58:26 >> And the second question as related to the water
08:58:29 works building, and Michael, this might be more a
08:58:31 question for you, is it still a city building, number
08:58:36 Number 2, I thought I had heard a discussion awhile
08:58:39 back that it would retain or remain in some sort of
08:58:43 community role, in some type of community center or
08:58:48 something for the entire area.
08:58:50 Was that just gossip?
08:58:52 >>MICHAEL CHEN: No, actually, there's a fair amount of
08:58:55 truth to the rumors that you have heard.
08:58:58 First of all, the building is in the park, and it is
08:59:01 part of a park land.
08:59:04 We're making sure to confirm whether that building is
08:59:07 actually designated as part of the park or not.
08:59:10 But it will influence how we have to deal between the
08:59:13 city and the developer on the use of that building.
08:59:17 It's not totally vacant.
08:59:19 I understand that there is a city broadcast facility
08:59:21 that is operating within there.
08:59:24 But in terms of its role within the developer's plan,
08:59:27 it's an absolutely critical piece.
08:59:30 In terms of creating a public environment and some
08:59:34 energy along the park and riverwalk segments of their
08:59:38 So it's very important that we figure out how to work
08:59:40 together to where -- in fact I'm hearing things like
08:59:44 restaurants and that type of thing, for adaptive reuse
08:59:51 We have to make sure and how we do that in an
08:59:53 appropriate fashion.
08:59:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: And who would fund those
08:59:58 Would that be the developer per se?
09:00:00 Would that be the CRA?
09:00:05 The various options that are available.
09:00:07 >>MICHAEL CHEN: At this time, the initial proposal was
09:00:09 for the developer to buy that parcel to take ownership
09:00:14 of that building.
09:00:16 The broadcast facility would be leased back to the
09:00:18 city, and then within the context and cost of the
09:00:22 developer's project, all that adaptive reuse would be
09:00:26 taken care of in that budget.
09:00:27 If indeed it's determined that this is park land, or
09:00:32 park building, we'll have to explore an alternative
09:00:35 because we wouldn't be able to convey it to the
09:00:37 developer without a referendum.
09:00:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Just one or two more questions.
09:00:42 Ma'am, you mentioned affordable housing.
09:00:45 There's always this back and forth between what's
09:00:49 affordable and what's attainable.
09:00:52 Is it attainable housing?
09:00:53 Is it low-income affordable housing?
09:00:56 >>> The way that we are defining affordable housing is
09:01:00 anyone will meet the who makes between 80% to 120% of
09:01:07 area mean income which is a fairly industry standard
09:01:12 for affordable housing in general.
09:01:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Michael, how would that relate to
09:01:17 those two words, affordable versus attainable?
09:01:19 >>MICHAEL CHEN: I think the concept would be closely
09:01:22 related to the affordable housing terminology rather
09:01:25 than the broader and say undefined attainable.
09:01:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Then finally, you threw up a quick
09:01:36 slide that talked about entitlements, and then
09:01:41 mentions zoning, and that sort of thing.
09:01:43 And I was just curious about the word entitlements.
09:01:48 There's nothing in the agreements that entitle this
09:01:52 developer to any particular zoning or anything else,
09:01:55 >>MICHAEL CHEN: I think the entitlements are referring
09:01:58 to the various legal processes within the city that
09:02:01 will give them entitlement to build the project, not
09:02:04 that they are entitled to the -- to approvals, but
09:02:09 rather once the approvals are done, then they'll have
09:02:11 entitlement to construct.
09:02:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Thanks for the clarification.
09:02:14 Thank you, Madam Chair.
09:02:15 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Just one question on my part.
09:02:18 When you talk about affordable housing, are we talking
09:02:21 about single-family type homes?
09:02:23 Or are we talking about condos or town homes, things
09:02:27 like that?
09:02:28 >>> Right now everything that we are proposing to
09:02:29 build would be a town home or a condominium.
09:02:31 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Thank you.
09:02:35 I think it's a great project.
09:02:37 I can't wait for to the get off the ground.
09:02:39 It's going to revitalize that area something like
09:02:46 nobody has seen in a long, long time.
09:02:48 And it's a long time in coming.
09:02:50 So I'm glad that Mr. Bishop and his partners have
09:02:56 taken this role to help revitalize this area.
09:02:59 And I want to thank you all for bringing this
09:03:03 presentation to us this morning.
09:03:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Just one more question.
09:03:08 What is the buildout projected, assuming we still have
09:03:11 a viable building economy?
09:03:14 You know, and assuming that you all get your green
09:03:18 lights on the various things you need to do this.
09:03:21 What would your buildouts be for these units?
09:03:25 >>> In terms of time line?
09:03:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Yes.
09:03:27 >>> We're showing a ten-year complete buildout.
09:03:30 But we feel that's very conservative.
09:03:35 Even in a slowing housing market, we feel that that
09:03:38 would be conservative. But that's what we're showing
09:03:40 for these purposes.
09:03:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Thank you.
09:03:42 >>MARY ALVAREZ: We have a resolution.
09:03:47 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: So moved.
09:03:51 >> Second.
09:03:51 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Mr. Chen, would you read the
09:03:56 Or would you prefer not to?
09:03:59 >>MICHAEL CHEN: I'll be happy to read the resolution
09:04:01 for you if you like.
09:04:02 Or however you prefer to handle it.
09:04:03 >>MARY ALVAREZ: I would like for Mr. White to read it
09:04:06 since it's his area.
09:04:07 >>KEVIN WHITE: Move a resolution of Community
09:04:10 Redevelopment Agency of the city of Tampa, Florida
09:04:12 relating to community redevelopment in old Tampa
09:04:13 Police Department site, community redevelopment area,
09:04:16 accepting a second amendment to the community
09:04:18 redevelopment plan, old Tampa Police Department site,
09:04:21 community redevelopment area, submitted by the City of
09:04:23 Tampa administration, directing the secretary of the
09:04:26 Community Redevelopment Agency of the City of Tampa to
09:04:28 move forward, a copy of said amendment to Hillsborough
09:04:31 County, city-county Planning Commission, directing the
09:04:34 secretary of said agency to submit a written report on
09:04:37 said amendment to each taxing authority, pursuant to
09:04:40 section 163.361, Florida statutes, 2005, providing an
09:04:45 effective date.
09:04:45 >>MARY ALVAREZ: We have a motion and a second.
09:04:49 Any questions on the motion?
09:04:52 Please indicate by saying Aye.
09:04:55 Any nos?
09:04:56 Motion passes.
09:04:57 Very good.
09:04:58 Thank you.
09:04:59 Okay, Mr. Chen, you're on again.
09:05:00 >>MICHAEL CHEN: Item 2 on your agenda is dealing with
09:05:06 pre-suit designation for property acquisition into the
09:05:11 Tampa Heights area.
09:05:12 And David Smith is here to brief you on that segment.
09:05:16 >>DAVID SMITH: Good morning, members.
09:05:20 This has a slightly different cast to it than we
09:05:24 described or discussed during my meetings with you in
09:05:27 So I would like to clarify that.
09:05:28 I apologize that we did not have that opportunity to
09:05:31 discuss what I am about to describe to you.
09:05:34 What you're going to be asked to do today is slightly
09:05:37 less than you may have anticipated.
09:05:39 We are really only authorizing pre-suit negotiations
09:05:42 today, in order to literally take the actions you need
09:05:47 to take -- the cell phone in my pocket seems to want
09:05:52 my attention.
09:05:52 >>MARY ALVAREZ: That's $5.
09:05:59 >>DAVID SMITH: What we are going to have to do in
09:06:00 order to actually move forward with imminent domain is
09:06:04 have a hearing after a 30-day public notice.
09:06:06 So you are not literally taking action to require or
09:06:10 to allow or authorize eminent domain today.
09:06:14 What you will be doing as a CRA is authorizing
09:06:18 pre-suit negotiations by the developer to talk with
09:06:22 the property owners in the area, to attempt to acquire
09:06:26 the property pursuant to negotiations.
09:06:28 If those negotiations are not successful -- and I
09:06:31 believe we have a 75-day period in the resolution --
09:06:34 then and only then will eminent domain be considered.
09:06:40 Now, what we will probably recommend to you, however,
09:06:43 is that we come back to you prior to the expiration of
09:06:47 75 days with a stand-by authorization, but certainly
09:06:49 not today.
09:06:50 So literally today, all that is being decided is a
09:06:54 resolution to allow the developer to engage in
09:06:57 pre-suit negotiations, to attempt to acquire the
09:06:59 parcels of property that are missing.
09:07:01 The properties that are missing, I think have been
09:07:04 presented to you, and as you know, I think I told you
09:07:07 there were 17 parcels, 14 were vacant lots.
09:07:09 There's actually 15 parcels now.
09:07:12 I believe 13 of which are vacant lots.
09:07:14 The other three properties, the improvements we have
09:07:17 described, actually they were very accurately depicted
09:07:19 in the paper this morning.
09:07:21 Rather than spending too much of your time, I know you
09:07:24 have an extremely busy morning this morning, and the
09:07:27 issue today is a lot lower level than what we
09:07:31 I will be happy to answer any questions I can give you
09:07:34 in elaboration and a lot of other information that I
09:07:37 sent to you in writing.
09:07:38 Since that does not really seem to be hardly necessary
09:07:40 for the action you're taking, I'll dispense and answer
09:07:46 >>SHAWN HARRISON: I move the resolution authorizing
09:07:48 them to do what they have already been doing.
09:07:51 >> Second.
09:07:51 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Any other questions?
09:07:54 Mr. Dingfelder, did you have a question?
09:07:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: No.
09:07:57 We didn't get a copy of the resolution.
09:07:59 >>MARY ALVAREZ: It should be in this.
09:08:01 >>DAVID SMITH: Actually, we do have a corrected
09:08:05 I would like to file that with the clerk.
09:08:07 The change in the resolution from what you received in
09:08:09 your packet is in the fourth to the last whereas
09:08:11 clause, says within 75 days from the date hereof.
09:08:15 So that is the time period by which the developer has
09:08:17 to attempt to acquire the property prior to eminent
09:08:21 domain action.
09:08:22 If I could, I would like to file that with you.
09:08:24 I have a copy for the clerk and for each of you.
09:08:34 (Off microphone)
09:08:36 It is a City Council resolution.
09:08:41 I think what you need to do is City Council will take
09:08:44 that action as it shows up appropriately on your
09:08:47 But since John didn't have a copy of the resolution, I
09:08:51 wanted to make sure he has one.
09:08:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I didn't see that any City Council
09:08:58 member had a copy of the resolution.
09:08:59 But I guess what I'm confused about is the -- Sal just
09:09:03 handed me this resolution, the last whereas paragraph,
09:09:08 says whereas the City of Tampa is hereby authorized to
09:09:12 exercise its power of eminent domain to acquire the
09:09:16 additional property, by initiating condemnation
09:09:18 proceedings under chapter 72-74, from the developer,
09:09:22 funds equal to the good faith estimate which the city
09:09:24 will be required to submit to the registry of the
09:09:27 court in order to acquire title to said property.
09:09:31 >>DAVID SMITH: That will have to be stricken.
09:09:32 Basically whether what transpired, there is
09:09:35 empowerment in the bylaws for the CRA that we were
09:09:37 unaware of.
09:09:37 Your bylaws require a 30-day notice.
09:09:40 As a consequence of that we have to follow your
09:09:43 Really all you are doing today, this resolution that
09:09:45 you have in front of you will not be submitted to
09:09:47 council today, and council will not take action on it
09:09:50 because it is premature.
09:09:52 So all you are doing today is pass ago resolution, as
09:09:55 Mr. Harrison appropriately indicated, that authorizes
09:09:58 developer to begin pre-suit negotiations.
09:10:00 What this really does is puts the community on notice
09:10:03 that the CRA and ultimately the council will be
09:10:07 considering the possibility of bringing an eminent
09:10:09 domain action.
09:10:11 So it's appropriate for him to enter into those
09:10:14 negotiations in earnest.
09:10:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: We always want to dot our Is and
09:10:22 cross our Ts.
09:10:23 Are you suggesting we modify this last paragraph,
09:10:25 because this paragraph is specifically authorizing
09:10:29 power of eminent domain?
09:10:31 >>DAVID SMITH: I think your resolution -- if I
09:10:33 understood Mr. Harrison's motion really to be an oral
09:10:37 resolution as opposed to this particular resolution,
09:10:39 which was prepared for council.
09:10:40 But it is premature for council to act.
09:10:43 He can either modify his resolution to delete from
09:10:47 that prepared resolution any reference to the current
09:10:50 authorization of eminent domain, or we can simply
09:10:53 leave it as a verbal resolution that we will then
09:10:55 craft for you to sign.
09:10:57 It will be the same exact as your motion.
09:11:00 Limited activity at this juncture.
09:11:05 >>SAL TERRITO: that you continue this for 30 days,
09:11:09 because the pre-suit negotiations, they are doing the
09:11:11 pre-suit negotiations.
09:11:13 They don't Ned our authorization to do that.
09:11:15 If we simply continue this hearing to give it time for
09:11:17 the notice to go out.
09:11:18 >>DAVID SMITH: That's probably a sounder
09:11:22 >>SAL TERRITO: Come back in 30 days and hear this.
09:11:29 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Move to continue for 30 days.
09:11:33 >> Second.
09:11:33 >>MARY ALVAREZ: We have a motion and second to
09:11:36 continue for 30 days.
09:11:37 All in favor?
09:11:39 Any Nays?
09:11:40 Motion passes.
09:11:41 It's continued.
09:11:42 Thank you.
09:11:43 Anything else to come before this agency?
09:11:46 We are now adjourned.