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Tampa City Council meeting
Thursday, May 18, 2006
9:00 AM Meeting

09:14:56 [Sounding gavel]
09:14:57 >>GWEN MILLER: Tampa City Council is called to order.
09:14:59 Before the chair yields to Mr. Harrison for our
09:15:01 invocation, I would just like to remind all the

09:15:04 citizens that we have lost a great officer, officer
09:15:07 O'Brien, who has been with the police department for
09:15:09 many years.
09:15:10 He was a fighter.
09:15:11 He struggled.
09:15:12 But we have lost him.
09:15:13 And I would like for us to just bow our heads for a
09:15:17 moment of silence, please.
09:15:21 (Moment of silence)
09:15:26 Amen.
09:15:29 And now I yield to Mr. Shawn Harrison.
09:15:34 >>SHAWN HARRISON: It was a shock to learn of TOBY's
09:15:39 passing so quickly.
09:15:40 We will keep his family in our prayers.
09:15:41 Thank you for mentioning that.
09:15:43 Madam Chair, it's my pleasure this morning to
09:15:45 introduce Betsy Steier, pastor at First Christian
09:15:49 Church of Tampa.
09:15:50 If we could all please stand for the invocation and
09:15:52 remain standing for the pledge of allegiance.
09:15:54 Thank you, Betsy.
09:15:57 >>> Pastor: Amazing and almighty God we give you

09:16:00 thanks for the gift of this day, a precious gift of
09:16:03 life which we so often take for granted.
09:16:05 We seek your presence here today as we gather.
09:16:08 We are grateful for the leaders who have been chosen,
09:16:12 and who have accepted this responsibility of guiding
09:16:15 our community.
09:16:16 We pray that you fill them with wisdom, with your
09:16:19 wisdom, that they may make the best decisions, even
09:16:22 when such decisions may be of a grand scale or a very
09:16:26 small scale that's all part of making this a better
09:16:30 place in which to live.
09:16:31 We pray that you give them courage, that they may do
09:16:35 what is right and fair and just, everyone when such
09:16:39 may not be popular.
09:16:41 We pray that you pour into them your compassion that
09:16:44 every decision may be made with the depth of caring
09:16:46 for the people who have been entrusted into their
09:16:49 leadership.
09:16:50 Thank you, God, for your presence that goes beyond
09:16:53 this meeting.
09:16:54 Take what happens here this day and each session and
09:16:57 magnify it for the good of this community, for its

09:17:01 people, and for your creation.
09:17:03 Bless the partnership that we each share as we strife
09:17:06 together to make this community a better place in
09:17:09 which to live.
09:17:10 All blessings, glory and honor be yours.
09:17:13 Amen.
09:17:16 (Pledge of Allegiance)
09:17:30 >>GWEN MILLER: Roll call.
09:17:33 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Here.
09:17:38 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Here.
09:17:38 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Here.
09:17:39 >>ROSE FERLITA: Here.
09:17:40 >>KEVIN WHITE: here.
09:17:41 >>GWEN MILLER: Here.
09:17:42 At this time I will yield to Ms. Rose Ferlita who will
09:17:46 present our Officer of the Month.
09:18:06 >>ROSE FERLITA: Good morning.
09:18:11 I certainly add my sentiment to Toby O'Brien's family
09:18:15 in particular, his mom who has been a friend of main
09:18:18 for along, long time, and our prayers and sympathy are
09:18:23 with the whole family.
09:18:24 Chief, thank you for being with me as we present a

09:18:27 commendation to MPO Michael DeMott.
09:18:32 Explain briefly how the selection process went so we
09:18:34 could honor Michael.
09:18:38 Chief?
09:18:44 >>> Chief: Thank you, council.
09:18:47 Mike, if your wife is here, if you want to bring her
09:18:50 up.
09:18:57 I see Mike and his wife have something in common.
09:18:59 We had a hard time getting him in to staff Tuesday to
09:19:04 give him his award.
09:19:05 It's my pleasure to introduce officer Mike DeMott, who
09:19:11 is our employee of the month for May 2006.
09:19:16 Mike is a pretty special individual, because if you
09:19:23 have ever been to the police department web site and
09:19:25 looked at the web site that we have, it's a pretty
09:19:28 accomplished web site that's very informative.
09:19:31 And Mike single-handedly put that together and
09:19:36 maintains it for the police department and has for
09:19:40 many years.
09:19:41 That web site gets about 60,000 hits a month on it,
09:19:48 and it's very well used, and the vast majority of the
09:19:53 police officers that come to the Tampa Police

09:19:55 Department for employment first visit that web site to
09:20:02 learn about the Tampa Police Department, and the
09:20:05 quality of officers that we receive is somewhat a
09:20:09 credit to Mike and his web site and what he's done
09:20:12 with that.
09:20:12 And we are very appreciative of that.
09:20:15 Also, Mike has been involved in the technical end of
09:20:20 the police business.
09:20:22 He's helped with reports, criminal sis reports, our
09:20:28 manuals, our mobile dispatch terminal sites for the
09:20:31 street officers.
09:20:32 He's now working on an access database for juveniles
09:20:38 on felony probation.
09:20:41 It will be accessible to all the police officers in
09:20:45 their cars.
09:20:45 I don't know if you have seen old movies of police
09:20:47 work but you have probably seen some lieutenant
09:20:50 putting pins on a map where crimes have occurred.
09:20:53 And actually, I used to put pins on a map.
09:20:57 So I am one of those old police movies.
09:21:00 But Mike has converted that to an electronic format.
09:21:05 He puts that information to the police officers on the

09:21:09 street.
09:21:10 Generally, not exactly in realtime, but the day after
09:21:14 those events occurred.
09:21:16 As you can well imagine, that has a tremendous effect
09:21:20 on the crime rate because in the past you had to see
09:21:30 three or four crimes occur before you start to see a
09:21:34 pattern and usually there was about a two-week delay
09:21:36 in actually getting that information through the
09:21:39 system, people had to read it and make notes and
09:21:43 things of that nature.
09:21:47 Due a large part to Mike's efforts, that now is next
09:21:51 day sitting in the patrol car, the officer knows he
09:21:53 had a crime in this area yesterday.
09:21:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Chief, do you help him with the
09:21:58 computer programming yourself?
09:22:02 >>CHIEF HOGUE: I was afraid you might ask that
09:22:04 question.
09:22:04 I do good to get the PowerPoint turned on.
09:22:11 Unfortunately I'm not that adept at the computer
09:22:13 business.
09:22:14 Fortunately I have people like Mike that are.
09:22:19 It works out pretty well.

09:22:20 Kind of a side issue that he does for the police
09:22:22 department that not many people know about but all the
09:22:25 graphic displays around the police department and on
09:22:28 all of our reports and things of that nature that we
09:22:31 put out, Mike is generally responsible for that.
09:22:39 For us to just basically turn the computer on and get
09:22:42 it running, he's like a genius to me that he knows all
09:22:45 these things to make it work and do things that I
09:22:47 haven't even included.
09:22:49 So for those reasons, we have selected Mike as our
09:22:53 officer of month.
09:22:54 And we are very proud of Mike and what he's done for
09:22:57 the police department.
09:22:58 (Applause).
09:23:06 >>ROSE FERLITA: Thank you very much, chief.
09:23:08 I think you dated yourself a little bit with the pins
09:23:11 and maps things, but that's okay.
09:23:13 Michael, congratulations.
09:23:15 On behalf of our chairman, and my colleagues, and all
09:23:18 the people in the city that we represent, it is my
09:23:20 pleasure as public safety chairman to read this to you
09:23:23 and present it to you.

09:23:24 Of course, as always, that goes behind all the
09:23:29 accomplishments, we appreciate what you do as well.
09:23:32 Thank you.
09:23:34 Tampa City Council commendation presented to officer
09:23:36 Michael DeMott, in recognition of his dedicated and
09:23:39 talented efforts, master police officer Michael DeMott
09:23:43 has been selected as the Officer of the Month for May
09:23:46 2006.
09:23:46 MPO DeMott's work with the TPD web site and the
09:23:50 department, Internet site has improved productivity
09:23:54 and communication between the entire department and
09:23:56 citizens of Tampa.
09:23:57 Nor the City Council and City of Tampa commend you,
09:23:59 and I personally want to thank you for everything you
09:24:01 do.
09:24:01 Thank you so very much.
09:24:05 (Applause).
09:24:07 Michael, as always, we have some corporate members
09:24:10 that want to say thank you in their own way so we'll
09:24:12 allow them to come up.
09:24:14 Then maybe you can come up and say a few things and
09:24:16 introduce your wife.

09:24:17 Okay?
09:24:23 >>> I represent Bill Currie Ford.
09:24:27 On behalf of Bill Currie Ford and its employees we
09:24:30 would like to present you this watch.
09:24:33 Congratulations.
09:24:42 >>> Good morning.
09:24:43 Congratulations.
09:24:43 Steve Stickley representing Stepp's towing service.
09:24:47 Mike, on behalf of Stepps towing service we would like
09:24:51 to present this statue to you for a job well done.
09:24:56 And we also have a gift certificate for lunch or
09:24:59 dinner to Lee Roy Selmon Expressway.
09:25:03 Thank you very much.
09:25:05 (Applause).
09:25:08 >>> Florida executive realty.
09:25:10 We have a $50 gift certificate so after the dinner you
09:25:15 can go to the movie theater.
09:25:20 (Applause).
09:25:24 >>> Hank mart, on behalf of first financial planning,
09:25:29 a gift certificate to enjoy, when you are not so busy
09:25:36 at work you need to relax a little bit.
09:25:38 Thanks for keeping our city safe.

09:25:40 (Applause).
09:25:46 >>> Representing Lowry Park Zoo, I want you to invite
09:25:51 you and the family to enjoy a day at the zoo on our
09:25:55 behalf.
09:25:56 Thanks a lot.
09:25:57 Congratulations.
09:25:57 (Applause).
09:26:05 >>> On behalf of the Florida Aquarium, thank you very
09:26:07 much for keeping the city safe.
09:26:08 We would like to present you with four tickets to come
09:26:10 down and see our new exhibit, Aquarimania.
09:26:19 >>> Good morning, officer.
09:26:20 You're the computer whiz, right?
09:26:23 It's good to see you.
09:26:24 I think it's a program the police office has, and the
09:26:29 graphics people enjoy them.
09:26:30 I go by there all the time and you have done a
09:26:33 terrific job.
09:26:34 On behalf of a variety of different folks, one of them
09:26:37 is list development and Bern's steakhouse, provide you
09:26:40 with a $100 gift certificate so you can enjoy yourself
09:26:43 at Bern's.

09:26:43 On behalf of the Hillsborough County towing
09:26:46 association we are providing with you a $50 gift
09:26:48 certificate to your choice of Carabbas or Outback
09:26:52 steakhouse.
09:26:52 On behalf of Po Boy's we are going to provide with you
09:26:55 a $50 gift certificate to enjoy lunch or dinner there.
09:26:58 And Bryn Allen studios, when you are not doing your
09:27:04 graphics, you can do some graphics there for you and
09:27:08 your family.
09:27:09 Congratulations for a job well done.
09:27:11 (Applause).
09:27:14 >>ROSE FERLITA: Thank you to all the corporate
09:27:15 participants that help us say thank you to their
09:27:17 officers.
09:27:26 I'll be in charge of collecting all your stuff and
09:27:28 putting them altogether.
09:27:31 >>> On behalf of the department I would just like to
09:27:33 thank everyone.
09:27:35 I actually didn't do it by myself.
09:27:39 There are people that came over today that are
09:27:44 responsible for anything I D. I'm a small part of it.
09:27:47 Thank you very much.

09:27:51 (Applause).
09:27:53 >>ROSE FERLITA: Thank you very much.
09:27:54 >>GWEN MILLER: At this time we need approval of the
09:28:12 agenda.
09:28:15 Mr. Shelby?
09:28:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Yes, Madam Chair.
09:28:18 Did you have a desire to move items on the agenda,
09:28:21 change the order of business just for today?
09:28:23 >>GWEN MILLER: Do you want to hold those or what?
09:28:48 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: (off microphone).
09:28:50 >>GWEN MILLER: We are going to move up our committee
09:28:57 reports and our second readings.
09:29:01 Public hearing for second reading, we are going to
09:29:03 move those up so the clerk can get things moving.
09:29:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Just temporarily.
09:29:12 I didn't get an answer still on number 9.
09:29:14 And also I wanted to make a quick comment on number 11
09:29:21 and 13.
09:29:23 I don't know what you want to do.
09:29:25 >>GWEN MILLER: Do it during committee reports?
09:29:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Yes.
09:29:29 >>GWEN MILLER: Any others? We need to approve the

09:29:32 agenda.
09:29:33 We have a motion and second to approve the agenda.
09:29:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Madam Chair, would you wish to then
09:29:38 have the citizen comment on the committee reports
09:29:40 section then also moved up?
09:29:43 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Yes.
09:29:43 >>GWEN MILLER: Okay.
09:29:45 We have our public speaking before we do our committee
09:29:47 reports and second hearings.
09:29:49 Okay.
09:29:52 We need to approve it.
09:29:53 >>MARY ALVAREZ: So moved.
09:29:56 >>GWEN MILLER: Motion and second.
09:29:57 (Motion carried).
09:29:58 At this time, would anyone in the public like to speak
09:30:00 on committee reports or reading for second reading?
09:30:06 You may come up and speak now.
09:30:09 Okay, just committee reports.
09:30:10 Okay.
09:30:11 Just committee reports.
09:30:14 >>HEATHER LAMBOY: Land development.
09:30:16 I would like to bring to council's attention items 29

09:30:18 and 30.
09:30:20 This is Z-06-94 and 95, a request for a temporary
09:30:28 one-day wet zoning. The police department had some
09:30:31 concerns regarding this wet zoning due to the lack of
09:30:33 officer coverage.
09:30:35 Negotiation was the petitioner occurred between Tampa
09:30:37 Police Department and petitioner.
09:30:42 And if you look at the Elmo, the petitioner has
09:30:46 reviewed the wet zoning area for the event.
09:30:50 We would like to withdraw the second day of the wet
09:30:53 zoning and thereby have sufficient coverage as
09:30:56 required by the police department.
09:30:58 Number 30 needs to be withdrawn.
09:31:00 And number 29 as amended.
09:31:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Point of clarification.
09:31:08 The first day is number 30.
09:31:10 That's May 20th.
09:31:11 >>HEATHER LAMBOY: Oh, I'm sorry.
09:31:14 Thank you for pointing that out.
09:31:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Yes.
09:31:17 We don't want to give them the wrong day.
09:31:19 >>> That's correct.

09:31:20 Item number 30 --
09:31:26 >>GWEN MILLER: Go over that again.
09:31:28 Which one do they want?
09:31:29 >>HEATHER LAMBOY: They want Saturday, which is I
09:31:31 believe May 20th.
09:31:33 >>GWEN MILLER: That one we will amend.
09:31:36 >>> Number 30 will be amended.
09:31:38 Number 29 is withdrawn.
09:31:46 If council has any questions.
09:31:48 >>GWEN MILLER: Would anyone else like to speak on
09:31:50 committee reports?
09:31:51 Okay.
09:31:51 We now go to our committee reports.
09:31:54 Public safety.
09:31:56 Ms. Rose Ferlita.
09:31:59 >>ROSE FERLITA: Sure.
09:32:05 Move resolutions 7 through 9, please.
09:32:08 >> Second.
09:32:08 (Motion carried).
09:32:11 >>GWEN MILLER: Parks and recreation.
09:32:16 Mr. Dingfelder?
09:32:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I said number 9.

09:32:23 I just need to get a little more information and delay
09:32:26 it until later in the meeting.
09:32:28 >> Ms. Ferlita, can you help him on number 9?
09:32:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Sure, she can.
09:32:36 >>GWEN MILLER: Could you explain that?
09:32:38 >>ROSE FERLITA: I think it's just a single source
09:32:40 process again.
09:32:45 I guess we can bring somebody back to respond.
09:32:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I sent over a question yesterday to
09:32:52 TPD.
09:32:54 >>ROSE FERLITA: I don't think the chief is here.
09:32:59 >>GWEN MILLER: We'll hold it and see if the chief is
09:33:01 still out there. Parks and recreation, Ms. Alvarez.
09:33:07 >>THE CLERK: You already approved the motion to
09:33:09 approve 7 through 8.
09:33:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'll tell you. What just leave it
09:33:12 alone.
09:33:13 If I have a big problem it with I'll ask for
09:33:14 reconsideration.
09:33:15 >>GWEN MILLER: All right.
09:33:17 Ms. Alvarez.
09:33:19 >>MARY ALVAREZ: I didn't think we voted on that, did

09:33:21 we?
09:33:22 >>GWEN MILLER: Yes, we did.
09:33:22 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Okay.
09:33:28 Ms. Saul-Sena -- no, who was it that wanted --
09:33:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 11 and 13.
09:33:34 Me again.
09:33:35 >>MARY ALVAREZ: You again.
09:33:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Trouble make theory I am.
09:33:40 No, this is a good thing.
09:33:42 I just wanted to commend the county and the county
09:33:46 commission.
09:33:48 It appears from the documentation that we have that
09:33:50 they are contributing $2 million to the Lowry Park Zoo
09:33:56 and $200 that you to the Florida Aquarium for capital
09:33:59 improvements.
09:34:00 And I just think that there's a lot written about
09:34:03 negative relations between the city and county.
09:34:05 But this is something that should be written about a
09:34:08 very positive thing between the city and the county.
09:34:10 That we are working together to make the museum, the
09:34:13 aquarium, you know, better places.
09:34:16 And we appreciate the county's efforts in that regard.

09:34:19 Thank you.
09:34:19 >>MARY ALVAREZ: I hope the media is listening.
09:34:25 >>KEVIN WHITE: Glad you mention that because the
09:34:27 positive things don't make the paper.
09:34:30 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Did you hear that?
09:34:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Don't shoot the messenger.
09:34:38 >>MARY ALVAREZ: I would like to move items 10 through
09:34:41 15.
09:34:43 >> Second.
09:34:43 (Motion carried).
09:34:44 >>GWEN MILLER: Public works, Mr. John Dingfelder.
09:34:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Move items 16 through 20.
09:34:52 >> Second.
09:34:53 (Motion carried).
09:34:55 >>GWEN MILLER: Finance Committee, Mr. Kevin White.
09:35:02 Ms. Saul-Sena?
09:35:04 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I just wanted to comment.
09:35:05 The numbers that I mentioned are about vehicle
09:35:08 purchases by the city.
09:35:09 And because of the cost of fuel, I inquired from the
09:35:16 individual who is responsible for purchasing if we had
09:35:18 considered the idea of purchasing some vehicles that

09:35:22 would be hybrid vehicles.
09:35:24 And they said they looked at it several years ago, it
09:35:27 didn't make sense.
09:35:28 But now that the cost of fuel is increasing, they said
09:35:30 they would take another look at that.
09:35:32 And I think that's to the good, because we have many
09:35:35 vehicles that cruise around the city that use a lot of
09:35:40 gas and the price going up.
09:35:41 And I think in the long-term it might be a worthy
09:35:44 investment.
09:35:46 So investigate the use of hybrid vehicles for some
09:35:48 city vehicles.
09:35:50 I wonder if anyone can comment on that.
09:35:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I think it's a great idea.
09:35:53 And when the economics changed the analysis changed.
09:35:56 But in this case, these are pickup trucks items, and
09:36:00 pickups that are hybrid, but we use a lot of smaller
09:36:04 vehicles that probably could be hybrid.
09:36:06 So I look forward to that.
09:36:09 Are you going to get a report from staff?
09:36:13 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I haven't asked for an official one
09:36:16 but there might be value to that.

09:36:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 90 days or something?
09:36:24 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Aren't hybrid more expensive than
09:36:26 regular cars?
09:36:27 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Yes. The point is at what point is
09:36:29 the cost savings worth the additional investment.
09:36:32 They also are cleaner burning.
09:36:41 A report in 90 days.
09:36:44 >>KEVIN WHITE: I would like to move items 21 through
09:36:46 28.
09:36:49 Withdrawing 29.
09:36:50 Approving 30.
09:36:53 >>MARY ALVAREZ: I will not be supporting 30.
09:36:56 >>GWEN MILLER: Okay.
09:36:58 We have a motion and second.
09:36:59 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Second.
09:37:01 >>GWEN MILLER: All in favor say Aye.
09:37:03 Opposed, Nay.
09:37:03 (Motion carried).
09:37:05 >>MARY ALVAREZ: No on number 30.
09:37:06 >>GWEN MILLER: Building and zoning, Linda Saul-Sena.
09:37:09 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I would like to move resolutions 31
09:37:12 through 35.

09:37:15 >> Second.
09:37:15 (Motion carried).
09:37:18 >>GWEN MILLER: Transportation, Shawn Harrison.
09:37:20 >>SHAWN HARRISON: I move items 36 through 40.
09:37:23 >>GWEN MILLER: We have a motion and second.
09:37:25 (Motion carried).
09:37:28 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Move new business items 41 through
09:37:36 looks like 50.
09:37:39 >> Second.
09:37:39 (Motion carried).
09:37:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: This is kind of neat.
09:37:46 I don't know if it happens every year or not.
09:37:48 But I see item 40 is a Shriners parade on July 4th
09:37:54 up Bayshore Boulevard that we are approving.
09:37:56 It's kind of nice.
09:37:57 I just wanted to let everybody be aware of that.
09:38:00 Take the family out.
09:38:01 >>GWEN MILLER: Are you going to participate?
09:38:04 >> I didn't see there was political participation.
09:38:06 >>GWEN MILLER: No, just get of in there.
09:38:09 >> Maybe with a little baby bicycle.
09:38:10 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Are the Shriners coming in, I think

09:38:15 there's going to be between 20 and 25,000.
09:38:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I think this is in conjunction with
09:38:22 it.
09:38:27 >>GWEN MILLER: Now we are going to go to our readings
09:38:30 for second reading, item 51 through 53.
09:38:36 We need to open.
09:38:39 >> So moved.
09:38:39 >> Second.
09:38:39 (Motion carried).
09:38:40 >>GWEN MILLER: Is there anyone in the public that
09:38:45 wants to speak on item 51?
09:38:47 >> Move to close.
09:38:49 >> Move to close.
09:38:49 >>GWEN MILLER: Anyone to speak on 51?
09:38:52 We have a motion and second to close.
09:38:53 (Motion carried).
09:38:56 >>KEVIN WHITE: Move to adopt the following ordinance
09:38:58 upon second reading, an ordinance vacating, closing,
09:39:00 discontinuing, abandoning a certain right-of-way a
09:39:05 portion of that alleyway lying between south Oregon
09:39:08 Avenue and South Dakota Avenue that runs from west
09:39:11 Cleveland Avenue to West Kennedy Boulevard in the plan

09:39:14 of west side park a subdivision in the City of Tampa,
09:39:18 Hillsborough County Florida providing petitioner to
09:39:21 dedicate a public transportation easement from a
09:39:24 portion of the remaining alleyway to Dakota Avenue the
09:39:28 same being more fully described in section 2 and 5
09:39:30 hereof providing an effective date.
09:39:31 >>GWEN MILLER: Motion and second.
09:39:33 Vote and record.
09:39:35 (Motion carried).
09:39:42 >>GWEN MILLER: Is there anyone in the public to speak
09:39:44 on item 52?
09:39:45 >> Move to close.
09:39:46 >> Second.
09:39:46 (Motion carried).
09:39:47 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Move to adopt the following ordinance
09:39:52 on second reading, an ordinance vacating, closing,
09:39:54 discontinuing, and abandoning a certain right-of-way a
09:39:58 portion of Aurora street and Maxwell Avenue generally
09:40:02 located between Maxwell Avenue and tangent Avenue, in
09:40:05 Finley and stillings subdivision, a subdivision
09:40:08 located in the City of Tampa, Hillsborough County
09:40:11 Florida the same being more fully described in section

09:40:13 2 hereof providing an effective date.
09:40:15 >> Motion and second.
09:40:16 Roll call vote.
09:40:17 Vote and record.
09:40:20 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
09:40:21 >>GWEN MILLER: Is there anyone in the public that
09:40:24 would like to speak on item 53?
09:40:26 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you.
09:40:27 We have discussed during the first hearing on this
09:40:31 substituting -- allowing some spaces to be waived in
09:40:35 order to have more ordinary spaces than compact spaces
09:40:40 and I want to be reassured by staff that that has been
09:40:42 done.
09:40:43 I thought that was really going to make people fly
09:40:45 through here.
09:40:46 >>HEATHER LAMBOY: Land development.
09:40:48 Yes, two spaces were waived.
09:40:49 You will see that reflected in the ordinance.
09:40:51 Furthermore the graphic was changed to have more
09:40:53 regular size parking spots.
09:40:57 Thank you very much.
09:41:04 >>GWEN MILLER: Mr. Harrison?

09:41:10 One more time.
09:41:11 Does anyone in the public want to speak on item 53?
09:41:15 Motion and second to close.
09:41:16 (Motion carried).
09:41:18 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Move to move the following ordinance
09:41:20 upon second reading, an ordinance approving a special
09:41:23 use permit S-2 approving an off-street commercial
09:41:26 parking lot in an RM-16 residential zoning district in
09:41:29 the general vicinity of 3814 Swann Avenue in the city
09:41:32 of Tampa, Florida and as more particularly described
09:41:34 in section 1 hereof waiving section 27-272 by allowing
09:41:38 parking area to extend closer than 100 feet from the
09:41:41 closest boundary of the commercial lot, waiving
09:41:43 section 27-242 by allowing a reduction in parking
09:41:46 spaces from 65 to 63, providing an effective date.
09:41:48 >>GWEN MILLER: I have a motion and second.
09:41:51 Vote and record.
09:42:05 >>THE CLERK: Reflecting unanimous with Dingfelder
09:42:09 present.
09:42:09 >>GWEN MILLER: He punched before he walked out.
09:42:12 Okay?
09:42:13 We go to our staff reports.

09:42:14 >>HEATHER LAMBOY: I come to City Council today
09:42:22 regarding two issues, two applications that need to be
09:42:24 amended.
09:42:25 The first application is regarding the Davis Island
09:42:29 Baptist church located at 5101 Bayshore Boulevard,
09:42:33 case V-06-25.
09:42:35 The petitioner would like to amend the application in
09:42:37 order to request a waiver and they are currently scald
09:42:43 for June 8.
09:42:44 In order to effect notice they would need to be
09:42:46 rescheduled to July 13.
09:42:48 >>: So moved.
09:42:48 >> Second.
09:42:49 (Motion carried).
09:42:55 >>> The second case was done last week, 610 east north
09:42:59 street.
09:43:02 North street and Seminole, Seminole Heights.
09:43:05 When the member of the public got up to object to the
09:43:08 continuance stating that she had not received notice,
09:43:11 the attorneys researched the issue and indeed she had
09:43:14 not received notice.
09:43:15 So, therefore, it was considered a misnotice by our

09:43:18 legal department.
09:43:20 As a result, the petitioner needs to renotice the
09:43:25 public hearing, and does not have enough time to do it
09:43:29 by June 8.
09:43:30 So staff is recommending July 13th simply because
09:43:33 on June 22nd the council is going to be
09:43:37 considering the height that is currently scald for
09:43:41 June 22nd.
09:43:42 Furthermore, there's going to be a text amendment
09:43:45 regarding what type of fence, there are going to be
09:43:49 several cases and it's going to be -- however, they
09:43:58 prefer the soonest hearing date possible.
09:44:01 It is up to the pleasure of the council as to whether
09:44:02 you want June 22nd or July 13.
09:44:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Question.
09:44:07 Did they identify just this one household that wasn't
09:44:12 noticed?
09:44:14 >>HEATHER LAMBOY: I have to defer to the attorney to
09:44:15 answer that question.
09:44:16 I don't know.
09:44:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Okay.
09:44:20 >>> Robert Williams, Fowler White for the petitioner

09:44:22 on this case.
09:44:23 Councilman, there were ten folks that were missed.
09:44:26 We came into this case very late and that's why it was
09:44:29 continued to begin with.
09:44:30 As soon as we saw there was a notice problem or even a
09:44:32 question, we researched it from top to bottom, and
09:44:36 there were actually ten folks.
09:44:38 There are 13 properties but ten people that were
09:44:40 missed.
09:44:41 Three of them owned by my client.
09:44:43 So they kind of didn't count in our minds.
09:44:46 >>: I appreciate your candor.
09:44:48 >>GWEN MILLER: What's the council's pleasure?
09:44:50 Ms. Saul-Sena?
09:44:52 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Heather, at this point does the
09:44:54 July date look like it's not an incredibly intense --
09:45:00 >>HEATHER LAMBOY: July is a regular meeting.
09:45:02 I would sigh that.
09:45:03 There are no big cases, no large amendments or
09:45:06 anything that are being considered.
09:45:07 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I prefer the July then because it
09:45:11 sounds like June is going to be pretty crazy.

09:45:13 >>GWEN MILLER: July 13th at 6 p.m.
09:45:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Second.
09:45:18 >>GWEN MILLER: Motion and second.
09:45:19 (Motion carried).
09:45:20 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Can we ask that be placed first on
09:45:25 the agenda?
09:45:25 Because lots of times I know a great number of people
09:45:28 show up, that way they can have their case heard and
09:45:30 make way for the other people.
09:45:33 >>HEATHER LAMBOY: Thank you.
09:45:34 >>GWEN MILLER: You're welcome.
09:45:35 Now we go to unfinished business item number 2.
09:45:56 >>ROLANDO SANTIAGO: C-06-02, item number 2 unfinished
09:46:03 business.
09:46:03 We have prepared a revised ordinance per your request.
09:46:06 There is however a slate variation.
09:46:08 Mr. Cook is going to be here this morning to present
09:46:10 to you effectively a concern that arose.
09:46:17 We were going to vacate the alley and reserve
09:46:20 transportation easement.
09:46:20 What is going to be presented to you this morning is a
09:46:22 slight variation of that.

09:46:23 Mr. Cook will explain why.
09:46:25 What we are going to ask that you do or consider is
09:46:28 rather than vacating the entire alley, just vacate a
09:46:31 portion of that alley, and then reserve the easement
09:46:34 over that portion.
09:46:37 Thus the remaining alley remains completely
09:46:39 unaffected.
09:46:40 Legally, it accomplishes both goals.
09:46:42 The vacation, and keeping the alley open.
09:46:45 Having said that, I will defer to Mr. Cook.
09:46:48 And I do have copies of the revised ordinance for you.
09:46:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Council, if I can.
09:46:53 It would be my recommendation if you are going to be
09:46:56 presenting in effect a new ordinance, you are going to
09:46:59 be taking testimony on that, I would ask that you
09:47:01 reopen the public hearing and take testimony and allow
09:47:06 anybody who wishes to speak to have the opportunity.
09:47:13 >> So moved.
09:47:13 >> Second.
09:47:13 >>GWEN MILLER: Motion and second to reopen the public
09:47:15 hearing.
09:47:16 (Motion carried).

09:47:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: And witnesses will have to be sworn,
09:47:20 please.
09:47:20 >>GWEN MILLER: Is there anyone in the public that's
09:47:22 going to speak on item number 2?
09:47:24 >>THE CLERK: Do you solemnly swear or affirm to tell
09:47:31 the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
09:47:35 >>JAMES COOK: Land Development Coordination.
09:47:38 As I recall last week, petitioner is requesting to
09:47:44 vacate the entire alley.
09:47:54 Staff is recommending to approve the alley with
09:47:57 regular utilities easements reserved.
09:48:01 However, my main concern with that is, the abutting
09:48:07 property owners, residential property owners would
09:48:11 have a liability on the part they own.
09:48:12 They would not be allowed to fence it because of the
09:48:14 remaining transportation easement although they would
09:48:16 be responsible for taxes, and anything that would
09:48:18 happen in that area.
09:48:21 So my suggestion would be to leave everything open as
09:48:23 an alley, except for the west 126 feet.
09:48:27 That would be vacated with the transportation
09:48:29 easement.

09:48:30 That way the petitioner can still use the west end and
09:48:33 still la like an alley all the way through it because
09:48:35 all they really want to do is combine the two parcels
09:48:37 at the west end.
09:48:39 And that's what's been done in the ordinance.
09:48:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: See what happens when you're not
09:48:44 here?
09:48:45 >>GWEN MILLER: So do you have a new ordinance? Does
09:48:50 anyone in the public want to speak on item number 2?
09:48:53 >>: Move to close.
09:48:54 >> Second.
09:48:54 (Motion carried)
09:49:03 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Give it to Mr. Dingfelder, the
09:49:05 troublemaker.
09:49:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Move to adopt the following
09:49:14 ordinance, an ordinance vacating, closing,
09:49:15 discontinuing, abandoning a portion of a certain
09:49:19 right-of-way part of the alley lying south of Marconi
09:49:23 street, north of Clark street, east of 26th
09:49:25 street, west of 28th street, in Vincent GUERRA, a
09:49:31 subdivision in the City of Tampa, Hillsborough County,
09:49:33 Florida, the same being more fully described in

09:49:35 section 2 hereof providing an effective date.
09:49:39 If it was French I would have done better.
09:49:44 >>GWEN MILLER: Item number 3 is a closed public
09:49:46 hearing.
09:49:47 Mr. Shelby, do you want to speak?
09:49:51 THE CLERK: You need to vote on your motion.
09:49:54 >>GWEN MILLER: We have a motion and second.
09:49:56 (Motion carried)
09:49:56 Mr. Smith, you want to speak?
09:49:59 >>DAVID SMITH: David Smith, city attorney. I did have
09:50:02 an opportunity to speak with Mr. Dingfelder earlier
09:50:04 but I didn't have a chance to speak with the rest of
09:50:06 you.
09:50:06 We reviewed section 1-20, and section 19-129 in the
09:50:11 appeal provisions.
09:50:13 And we don't think that the council unfortunately as
09:50:16 it's drafted has the ability to compromise a
09:50:20 demolition lien.
09:50:21 What we recommend do you if you are interested in
09:50:23 knowing more about that process is have anyone who is
09:50:25 part of that come down here and provide you an update
09:50:28 on how these things are handled and determined with

09:50:31 contractors to hire.
09:50:32 And also the applicant can certainly address that
09:50:35 issue with that department and get additional
09:50:38 information.
09:50:40 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Mr. Smith, we had the city attorney
09:50:46 here talking to us about this last week.
09:50:48 Why didn't he mention this?
09:50:53 >>> I did not see the tape but what he indicated to me
09:50:55 was he did say that.
09:50:58 >>MARY ALVAREZ: I don't think anybody remembered it.
09:51:01 >>> Well, I apologize if that were the case.
09:51:04 But what the ordinance contemplates, under subpart
09:51:16 D-4, if the amount charged is not the actual cost of
09:51:19 the work, or if it is erroneously entered.
09:51:24 And the reason that comes back to you is because this
09:51:27 council is the body which passes the resolution that
09:51:30 creates the lien.
09:51:31 So if that number is not the actual cost, or it's
09:51:34 erroneously entered, then there can be relief obtained
09:51:38 from this council.
09:51:39 But if it is in fact the actual cost which it's my
09:51:42 understanding it is and it wasn't erroneously entered

09:51:44 and the predicate facts to bring it before you don't
09:51:47 exist.
09:51:47 So you don't have that opportunity.
09:51:48 Of course you can amend the ordinance if you wish.
09:51:51 I caution or recommend you not do that.
09:51:53 I think you have enough to do to not get involved in
09:51:55 appeals of demolition liens. But basically, I think
09:51:59 it's outside the purview of the council at this
09:52:01 juncture.
09:52:04 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Mr. Martin sort of said that.
09:52:08 But he wasn't clear about that.
09:52:10 And maybe -- he probably doesn't know that we don't
09:52:15 have that.
09:52:18 I think even if -- that is real money that we paid,
09:52:24 the city paid.
09:52:24 It was legitimate.
09:52:26 And the message we are sending to the code enforcement
09:52:30 department is, you will go ahead and get this stuff
09:52:33 done but we are not going to support what you've done.
09:52:37 And we are going to allow folks to come in and
09:52:40 negotiate the cost of what that work was.
09:52:43 And I think that was the wrong message to send.

09:52:46 And I'm glad in fact we don't have the ability to
09:52:51 waiver on that.
09:52:53 >>GWEN MILLER: Mr. Dingfelder?
09:52:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Well, I'm a little torn on this.
09:52:56 Because I think at least three members of council
09:53:00 probably had some different feelings about this
09:53:03 particular instance.
09:53:05 In this particular instance I think the message to
09:53:08 code enforcement is to be reasonable, to communicate
09:53:10 better with folks and to use more common sense and be
09:53:16 more reasonable.
09:53:18 If they had sent this property off, it wouldn't have
09:53:21 been a health, safety, welfare issue.
09:53:23 They could have sent it off for another two or three
09:53:26 weeks until the gentleman closed on the property.
09:53:28 But they didn't.
09:53:29 So, therefore, they tore it down.
09:53:31 Now, putting all that aside, we now have sound wisdom
09:53:35 from our city attorney's office.
09:53:36 The assistant attorney did a good job last week.
09:53:40 I think basically the language in the current
09:53:42 ordinance is a little bit vague and a little ambiguous

09:53:45 and that's what we were trying to crawl into.
09:53:48 But our city attorney is now standing in front of us
09:53:51 and telling us it is not sound for us to go ahead and
09:53:54 split the baby, as we were trying to do last week, I
09:53:56 will defer to his wisdom, and I think since I made the
09:54:01 motion, I don't know procedurally, Mr. Shelby --
09:54:04 >>GWEN MILLER: We have some more speakers.
09:54:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Well, okay.
09:54:08 There was a motion pending.
09:54:09 It was a 3-1 motion.
09:54:12 So I think we need to know procedurally what to do
09:54:14 with that.
09:54:15 Because I'm willing to withdraw the motion if it's
09:54:18 procedurally --
09:54:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: You can revoke it.
09:54:21 You are not bound by your previous vote.
09:54:25 For the motion you might be.
09:54:28 >>ROSE FERLITA: Mr. Smith, I gladly adhere to your
09:54:31 advice in terms of not taking on any other situations
09:54:34 or jobs.
09:54:35 But I have to totally agree with Mr. Dingfelder.
09:54:38 I think this council -- and I can't speak for

09:54:39 everybody, but I get the sense that anytime we have
09:54:42 had an opportunity to look at additional revenue
09:54:44 because it's general fund, et cetera, or fines, we
09:54:49 always try to get them and reinvest them in code
09:54:54 enforcement so they have an opportunity to get more
09:54:56 staff, more equipment, et cetera.
09:54:57 And I think that is in the mind-set of this council.
09:55:00 Never would we want to set a precedent that sounds
09:55:03 like we want to negotiate with them in behalf of a
09:55:06 constituent when actually there were costs incurred
09:55:08 and we are going to lose the 3,000, $4,000.
09:55:11 But in this sense I agree with John.
09:55:13 And I don't remember the exact testimony or the exact
09:55:17 incident from last week.
09:55:18 But what made me pay attention was the fact that I
09:55:21 think that there was some miscommunication, there was
09:55:23 a gap.
09:55:24 It seems like they sensed Mr. Umansky with the
09:55:33 sentiment there wasn't an urgency so he had gotten a
09:55:35 price from another demolition contractor which was
09:55:37 less than what we were charged by another demolition
09:55:40 contractor, and I think the point was we were trying

09:55:42 to compromise simply because of the miscommunication,
09:55:45 not to send a message to code enforcement that we were
09:55:49 not supportive of them.
09:55:50 And I think, John, that was your reason for doing
09:55:52 this, never, ever, ever, Eight On Your Side want that
09:55:55 on record, would we look at situation where is we have
09:55:57 spent hard costs.
09:55:58 To me there's no negotiating factor there. If we
09:56:01 spent it we have to have somebody reimburse us.
09:56:03 But the communication was vague.
09:56:04 The time line was not acceptable.
09:56:07 And I think that's why we were going where we were
09:56:10 going.
09:56:10 But you have come in and saved that dilemma because
09:56:13 now we don't have to act on what we felt was con
09:56:16 Stroud or misconstrued last week.
09:56:18 Thanks to your legal advice.
09:56:19 I appreciate it.
09:56:20 >>DAVID SMITH: Thank you.
09:56:23 I'm sure the message has been received.
09:56:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I believe if the maker of the motion
09:56:28 and the seconder withdraws -- a new motion would be in

09:56:33 order.
09:56:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I will make a motion to withdraw
09:56:36 the motion.
09:56:36 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Yeah, I would withdraw my second.
09:56:39 But I just want to make it clear that we -- we as a
09:56:44 council -- do support code enforcement in what they
09:56:47 say, and like they said, and I reiterated that last
09:56:51 week, that there was a miscommunication.
09:56:54 There was a sense of urgency on the part of the code
09:56:56 enforcement to tear this building down, when it didn't
09:57:02 seem like they gave it enough time to -- that Mr.
09:57:07 Umansky buy the property, and it was within a matter
09:57:11 of weeks.
09:57:12 So I couldn't feel -- I didn't feel that there was
09:57:16 that sense of urgency as far as the code enforcement
09:57:19 was concerned.
09:57:20 But I just want to reiterate that we do support code
09:57:23 enforcement in everything we have done, and that we
09:57:27 would continue to do that.
09:57:28 But there has to be a little bit of compassion on both
09:57:31 sides of this issue.
09:57:33 So I appreciate your coming to us, Mr. Smith.

09:57:36 But I don't recall this being relayed to us last week.
09:57:42 Maybe it was legalese that was said.
09:57:44 I'm not a lawyer.
09:57:45 But I hear the message.
09:57:47 And I'm really terribly sorry for Mr. Umansky because
09:57:51 I believe that he was trying to do the right thing.
09:57:55 He did have his own estimate on this.
09:57:59 And it was like $6,000 more than what we had.
09:58:04 And the other thing I want to say is that maybe we
09:58:06 need to find people in the Tampa area, not go all over
09:58:12 creation to find somebody that's going to dump these
09:58:14 things and then go to north Pasco County to dump it.
09:58:18 You know, do it in our city.
09:58:20 That's what code enforcement is all about.
09:58:22 City.
09:58:24 So I'll concur with my colleagues on this, and we'll
09:58:29 just go ahead and withdraw the motion on that.
09:58:32 >>GWEN MILLER: Motion and second to withdraw the
09:58:34 motion.
09:58:34 All in favor of the motion say Aye.
09:58:36 >>ROSE FERLITA: Briefly, and Mary, we alt always want
09:58:41 to do things closest to home if we can.

09:58:44 If there's an asbestos issue -- but your point should
09:58:48 be well taken.
09:58:51 >>GWEN MILLER: Need a motion.
09:58:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'll move to deny the petition for
09:58:55 relief.
09:58:56 And I just wanted to say one other thing.
09:58:58 Mr. Smith, and this would be applied to anytime we are
09:59:03 looking at code issues.
09:59:06 When we got the packet, we didn't get the relevant
09:59:10 code provision.
09:59:11 And weighed to scramble and ask for a copy of it.
09:59:13 So it's not relevant today.
09:59:15 We have already dealt with the issue.
09:59:17 But just tell all your staff, when we are analyzing,
09:59:21 you know, and we are going to be trying to interpret
09:59:25 relevant code provision, make sure we get a copy.
09:59:27 But with that I'll go ahead and make my motion to
09:59:30 deny.
09:59:30 >>GWEN MILLER: We have a motion and second.
09:59:32 (Motion carried) okay.
09:59:35 Item number 4.
09:59:37 Mr. Roy LaMotte.

09:59:39 >>ROY LAMOTTE: I ask for an extension of tame and you
09:59:53 most graciously granted me that request.
09:59:55 And this was the study for the proposal of a traffic
09:59:58 signal to be located on Columbus Avenue at Albany.
10:00:05 I will submit a packet to Mr. Shelby and ask him to
10:00:08 pass it around to you.
10:00:18 I'm going to draw particular attention to two
10:00:20 graphics.
10:00:22 There's a great deal of statistical information that
10:00:24 was collected to make our analysis, to draw the con
10:00:28 clogs on whether a signal would be warranted here or
10:00:31 not.
10:00:32 And I am going to put the larger of the two graphics
10:00:34 on the Elmo.
10:00:39 Basically pointing out Albany at west Columbus,
10:00:45 suggesting -- the geometry is difficult to say the
10:00:49 least.
10:00:50 It's a five legged intersection.
10:00:53 But more importantly the traffic traveling on Columbus
10:00:55 is basically competing with any cross-traffic here.
10:00:58 In addition to that, we looked at the accident crashes
10:01:01 that took place out here.

10:01:03 And there were 36 incidents over three years.
10:01:08 And in studying the actual intersection we found out
10:01:15 the majority were due to cross movements, and we also
10:01:18 evaluated it for signal based on a signal analysis.
10:01:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: What do those squiglies mean?
10:01:26 >>> Basically the direction of traffic, coming in a
10:01:29 westbound direction and is hit by a through-traffic,
10:01:31 and the other incidents you see where you have
10:01:34 rear-end type collisions that are over on the
10:01:36 right-hand side, and on the left-hand side.
10:01:39 Basically what we do is when we look at these
10:01:43 collision diagrams we analyze it and find out what was
10:01:46 the reasonable cause?
10:01:47 An unexpected movement?
10:01:49 Or was it somebody that somebody couldn't avoid
10:01:51 another vehicle?
10:01:52 And in this case that's exactly what's happening.
10:01:55 We looked at it from a signal viewpoint and try to
10:02:00 say, if we signalize it could we put in phases here
10:02:04 and how great is that movement?
10:02:05 It comes down to about 20 vehicles in a peak hour and
10:02:09 going against thousands of vehicles in a true traffic.

10:02:12 Basically we do not put an exclusive turn lane in or
10:02:15 wide ten road unless we have in the vicinity of 90 to
10:02:17 1 loon to make the movement.
10:02:22 Did meet the crash warrant analysis.
10:02:25 But it didn't meet the interruption of continuous
10:02:27 traffic, or peak hour.
10:02:33 I want to really draw it to closure for you and try to
10:02:36 make it simple.
10:02:38 At this particular location, it would be adversely
10:02:41 impacted if we put the signal here.
10:02:43 But what can we do to it?
10:02:45 And that was what I asked my staff to do and we
10:02:47 actually looked at seven different alternatives, all
10:02:50 the way out to include -- and I knew that wasn't the
10:02:56 answer.
10:02:58 There's a smaller diagram explaining to you the
10:03:01 one-way Albany both from the north and from the south
10:03:04 and allowing these right turns.
10:03:06 That will eliminate the majority of crash incidents
10:03:11 that are taking place here.
10:03:12 And if we should consider a signal then perhaps the
10:03:15 location for signal will be more justified at Rome and

10:03:20 west Columbus.
10:03:21 Again we have a vertical curve here.
10:03:24 But at this point in time, I would like to make these
10:03:27 recommendations to you for short term improvement,
10:03:30 evaluate that, and see how it's working, and should it
10:03:33 be required in the future, then we consider the
10:03:36 signalizing of Rome.
10:03:40 And I will tell you I'm running analysis for the
10:03:43 signal, that if we do put one here, we would be
10:03:46 basically doubling the amount of delay for this
10:03:48 intersection.
10:03:50 It would go from some 14 hours a day to over 35 hours
10:03:53 a day.
10:03:55 So it would resolve the problem.
10:03:59 You have got the threw traffic all lining up behind
10:04:01 it.
10:04:13 >>SHAWN HARRISON: 35 hours a day?
10:04:15 >>> Well, for every cycle place that takes place,
10:04:17 that's how you get there.
10:04:21 It basically doubles the amount of delay.
10:04:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Reminds me of that joke about
10:04:27 lawyers' billing.

10:04:28 But anyway, the question I had, Madam Chair, if you do
10:04:32 those two one-ways, who does that impact?
10:04:37 Are those residences that back out into that street?
10:04:39 And does that direct them -- does that pre-clawed them
10:04:43 from going local on their own street?
10:04:46 >>> No, it basically transfers them to make a left
10:04:49 turn at Fremont or have to take right turns to go into
10:04:52 the neighborhood earlier.
10:04:53 It actually moves them further away from Howard which
10:04:56 can expedite.
10:05:02 >> Can you give me an example?
10:05:04 >>> And I'll refer to the Elmo.
10:05:07 This is coming across basically into the neighborhood
10:05:09 here that would be making a left turn at Albany, would
10:05:13 more than likely be making a left turn at freedom
10:05:15 Fremont Avenue.
10:05:16 >> That wasn't my question.
10:05:17 Go back to the page you had before that showed the one
10:05:20 way.
10:05:21 >>> Yes, sir, go ahead.
10:05:22 >> Okay.
10:05:22 If I live in that immediate block, those houses -- no.

10:05:28 Right there.
10:05:29 Are those like two houses right there?
10:05:38 >> If you one-way them out of their own driveway?
10:05:41 >>> Yes, that's correct.
10:05:44 >> So I think that's why we have to talk about it.
10:05:48 That's why I'm bringing it up.
10:05:51 What kind of impact is that?
10:05:54 Mary, I don't know. Kevin's district?
10:05:57 I'm sorry.
10:05:57 There's always that confusion.
10:06:00 My confusion.
10:06:05 >>KEVIN WHITE: I represent West Tampa.
10:06:08 But
10:06:16 I met my wife in this area.
10:06:24 Going north on Albany, and one way of Albany
10:06:28 northbound, one here at St. Joseph's, a grocery store
10:06:36 and everything else down here, corner market, just
10:06:39 south.
10:06:40 And a lot of the residents that go back south.
10:06:46 >> Was it your idea to do it for that one block
10:06:49 segment?
10:06:50 >> That's correct.

10:06:50 >> How do you feel about that, Mr. White?
10:06:52 >>KEVIN WHITE: I don't know how you really enforce
10:06:55 that right turn only.
10:06:57 And we have traffic enforcement and everything else.
10:07:01 People are so used to making that left turn.
10:07:06 You said there were 36 incidents out of three years,
10:07:08 an average of one a month.
10:07:12 >>ROY LAMOTTE: That's correct.
10:07:13 When you look at the severity rate of those
10:07:15 incidences, probably around 1, 1.4, it's stated in
10:07:19 here and really 4 is what we consider high.
10:07:21 So I'm not saying that an incident with a particular
10:07:25 element is not a strong problem.
10:07:26 But to the majority of traffic when you have millions
10:07:30 of vehicles going through an intersection, that's a
10:07:33 low volume.
10:07:35 >> And I think Ms. Alvarez brought this up originally.
10:07:40 I have known of several incidents that happened at
10:07:43 this intersection.
10:07:44 I just don't know one way and do not enters.
10:07:52 I think it's going to cause more confusion at this
10:07:54 point in time.

10:07:55 You know, I'm almost thinking that the last
10:08:00 alternative, and maybe keeping this on the radar
10:08:04 screen, and doing nothing may be the viable solution
10:08:07 here.
10:08:09 I didn't think a traffic signal was the viable option
10:08:13 here because you have one right here at Columbus,
10:08:19 already, and that would be too close in my estimation
10:08:22 in stopping the east-westbound traffic on Columbus.
10:08:32 But I don't know.
10:08:33 I just know that one waying is not going to be the way
10:08:37 to go.
10:08:39 >>ROY LAMOTTE: Again this is at your pleasure.
10:08:41 We only recommend.
10:08:43 Yes, councilman?
10:08:44 >>MARY ALVAREZ: I won't be supportive because it's
10:08:49 west on -- a block west at Howard Avenue.
10:08:55 And Howard Avenue goes northbound anyway.
10:08:58 >>ROY LAMOTTE: That's correct.
10:09:00 >>MARY ALVAREZ: So that wouldn't work in there.
10:09:02 And the reason this was brought up is because there
10:09:04 was a lot of reaction from the neighbors in that area
10:09:06 that they wanted something.

10:09:08 So I'm glad that you brought this up.
10:09:10 And please continue to monitor it.
10:09:12 But I don't believe that we need to do anything on
10:09:15 this at this point.
10:09:17 >>> Very well, ma'am.
10:09:17 >>GWEN MILLER: Thank you.
10:09:19 >>ROSE FERLITA: Mr. LaMotte, seems like sometimes,
10:09:24 complaints to a particular department are seasonal.
10:09:27 Sometimes it's all solid waste.
10:09:29 And Mr. McCary does a wonderful job with that.
10:09:35 It seems that lately, not all of but a lot of
10:09:40 interaction with constituents city-wide, which that's
10:09:42 the position I hold, are all about transportation.
10:09:46 I know -- I can't speak for the rest of the colleagues
10:09:51 up here but it appears to me that every time we turn
10:09:54 around, we are calling you to help us get some relief
10:09:57 for them.
10:09:57 I was just jotting down some recent incidences that
10:10:03 deal directly with them or you have dealt with them
10:10:05 yourself at our request.
10:10:06 South Seminole Heights had a problem.
10:10:08 They have complained about it.

10:10:09 Southeast Seminole Heights, you and I met if you
10:10:12 remember.
10:10:13 While we were there somebody asked you to go down the
10:10:15 street which you did, and I thought that was
10:10:17 incredible customer service.
10:10:19 And had another issue with some residents in Hyde
10:10:22 Park.
10:10:23 And I think you and I made an appointment to meet with
10:10:27 them.
10:10:28 I have another lady that has called and talked to me.
10:10:31 I don't know what that area is.
10:10:32 But Morrison Avenue on the other side of Dale Mabry.
10:10:35 This is the point I'm trying to make.
10:10:36 I know that budget time is coming, not soon enough
10:10:39 perhaps at this point.
10:10:40 But this is more directed at our listening audience
10:10:43 across the walkway than to you.
10:10:45 I don't know how you are handling all of this.
10:10:49 But if anybody else has as many concerns and problems
10:10:51 that you're trying to help resolve like you have with
10:10:54 my department lately with my office, you have my
10:10:57 honest respect.

10:10:58 I just think you're short on staff.
10:11:00 And rate now transportation seems to be the big issue.
10:11:02 I don't know what they can do as a remedy very quickly
10:11:06 to give you some more staff.
10:11:07 Because you can just do so much based on the concerns
10:11:11 and the requests for remedies versus the amount of
10:11:13 staff you have.
10:11:14 And I just don't think you have enough staff.
10:11:17 Where I am trying to go with this -- because sometimes
10:11:19 I'm not very clear about compliments -- I am very
10:11:21 grateful for what you are doing.
10:11:23 I think you are maximizing what you are able to do,
10:11:25 given what you have got, and I certainly will be
10:11:28 supportive of anything we can do as a council body to
10:11:31 get you some help come budget cycle.
10:11:35 But I wish there's some way or some opportunity that
10:11:37 some emergency remedies can be made so that you get
10:11:39 some relief sooner because you don't have enough staff
10:11:42 for all the complaints, just I'm giving to you.
10:11:46 So that was just something I wanted to put out there
10:11:48 and editorialize in your behalf.
10:11:50 I thank you for what you are doing and I'm very

10:11:52 impressed you haven't said no about trying to find
10:11:55 remedies.
10:11:56 Just today Mrs. Alvarez it.
10:11:58 Okay, this is not a solution based on some of my
10:12:00 colleagues opinions that are more familiar with their
10:12:02 districts than I am.
10:12:02 But at the same time you have done a lot of research.
10:12:04 This takes a lot of time.
10:12:05 And so the short and long is thank you and I hope we
10:12:08 can get you some help.
10:12:10 >>> Thank you, ma'am.
10:12:11 I have a great staff that works with me and will
10:12:12 continue to add to it as we have other opportunities.
10:12:15 >>GWEN MILLER: Thank you, Mr. LaMotte.
10:12:18 Item number 5.
10:12:19 Is there anyone in the administration to talk about
10:12:22 it?
10:12:23 Okay, Mr. Smith.
10:12:24 >>DAVID SMITH: Nobody here from administration.
10:12:28 But because the foreclosure policy is largely of our
10:12:31 making, I'm the designee.
10:12:34 Basically, let me tell you where we are in foreclosing

10:12:37 because we are foreclosing these leans.
10:12:42 We are commencing foreclosures in that area.
10:12:45 I think -- and you need to understand this process,
10:12:48 it's a little more difficult than it would seem.
10:12:50 One thing we don't want to do is foreclose the piece
10:12:53 of property, and being the owner of a property it's a
10:12:57 liability.
10:12:57 It's contaminated.
10:12:58 It's got significant problems.
10:13:00 They have become really difficult for to us cure as
10:13:02 well.
10:13:03 So we have to vet that through the real estate
10:13:04 department.
10:13:06 Out of about 30 recommended files for foreclosure on
10:13:10 code enforcement liens, I think we commenced six.
10:13:14 So we are enforcing code enforce.
10:13:17 When we enforce a code enforcement lien we include all
10:13:20 liens around the property so there are some demolition
10:13:23 liens included in those foreclosures.
10:13:25 So we are foreclosing some.
10:13:28 Part of the problem, though, is we have demolition
10:13:32 liens on some property which is homestead.

10:13:34 We cannot foreclose on homestead property.
10:13:37 It is a priority lien.
10:13:38 It's important that you know that.
10:13:43 It's a highly protected lien.
10:13:45 What happens frequently is we get paid.
10:13:49 Most of these liens do get paid.
10:13:51 And I have some examples for you.
10:13:53 And these are just demolition liens, what we call
10:13:56 special assessment liens.
10:13:57 I got this information from code enforcement.
10:13:59 October 2005 was over $29,000.
10:14:03 November 2005 was almost $21,000.
10:14:06 December 2005, 342,000.
10:14:10 January 2006, almost $30,000.
10:14:13 February 2006 was 8,000.
10:14:16 March was almost 22,000.
10:14:18 April was 15,000.
10:14:20 And May to date is 21,000.
10:14:24 The point is we tend to collect a lot of the
10:14:26 demolition liens because it is a priority lien.
10:14:29 Now sometimes if a property is being sold, we'll wait
10:14:32 until it's sold and get paid in conjunction with the

10:14:35 sale.
10:14:35 So we frequently do that.
10:14:37 But what I would recommend we do and my recommendation
10:14:40 to the administration is, if they are favorably
10:14:44 inclined to do, is we will look at those liens
10:14:47 outstanding because these are out of pocket costs for
10:14:49 the city.
10:14:50 Although it does a crew interest, by the way, the
10:14:52 prejudgment rate, and when we paid we get that.
10:14:57 So it's not a pot where we have a schedule of
10:15:00 compromise and coden formats liens.
10:15:02 These we get paid in full.
10:15:03 We get our answers and also get our attorney fees if
10:15:05 we have to foreclose.
10:15:07 But we will identify those outstanding for any period
10:15:09 of time beyond a reasonable wait, or be paid off, and
10:15:14 I think we will then make sure they are non-homestead.
10:15:17 We will do what we are doing with code enforcement and
10:15:19 that is make sure it goes through real estate so we
10:15:21 know if it's a piece of property where the city is not
10:15:24 inheriting a Luge liability for clean-up and asbestos
10:15:28 bound, God knows what, there's lots of things out

10:15:30 there. So I recommend we begin foreclosure on those
10:15:33 types of liens to the extent they are not otherwise
10:15:35 foreclosed or paid.
10:15:37 So it seems to be a sound policy and one that will
10:15:40 generate dollars for the city in a fairly quick order.
10:15:44 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Thank you, Mr. Smith.
10:15:46 As long as these are not sitting around gathering
10:15:50 dust, and we are actively reviewing each on an
10:15:52 individual case-by-case basis.
10:15:54 Several years ago, I asked whether or not you could
10:15:57 take the portfolio of code enforcement liens that the
10:16:01 city has, bundle them together and auction them off to
10:16:06 any extent to private investors who would pay the city
10:16:09 real dollars for this book of liens, and they would
10:16:14 then turn around and far close them themselves.
10:16:17 And we were told at that point that we couldn't do
10:16:19 that on code enforcement liens.
10:16:21 I wonder if that's the same for demolition liens as
10:16:23 well.
10:16:26 So I don't know if you have an answer to that right
10:16:28 now.
10:16:29 But --

10:16:31 >> >> I don't but I'll sure get you an answer.
10:16:33 >>GWEN MILLER: Any other questions by council members?
10:16:36 Thank you, Mr. Smith.
10:16:37 >>DAVID SMITH: Thank you.
10:16:38 >>GWEN MILLER: Is there anyone in the public that
10:16:41 would like to request reconsideration?
10:16:42 Anyone in the public that would like to request
10:16:44 reconsideration?
10:16:45 We will go to our audience portion.
10:16:47 Is there anyone in the audience to speak on item any
10:16:50 item on the agenda not set for public hearing, may
10:16:51 come up and speak.
10:16:55 >>MOSES KNOTT, JR.: I reside at 2902 East Ellicott
10:17:20 street, and I just thank God for his grace and his
10:17:24 mercy.
10:17:26 And that's all I got left.
10:17:27 And that's enough.
10:17:31 Ever since I made that resolution that I was going to
10:17:36 depend upon God's grace and mercy, I have been
10:17:40 blessed.
10:17:40 But this same thing you all just got talking about,
10:17:44 this code enforcement lien, you know, I been telling

10:17:47 people for years, I been coming to this podium before
10:17:50 you got here, and I come here when a lot of you --
10:17:54 I'll be here when a lot of you are going gone.
10:17:57 But down through the years, I told you all that taking
10:17:59 people's land, in the Bible it says a man's house is
10:18:03 his castle.
10:18:05 And people that own this property is poor peoples.
10:18:08 And this property is mostly wood frame building, it's
10:18:12 sitting on some land that the city wants for a
10:18:14 development.
10:18:16 And they used the code enforcement to run these
10:18:19 peoples out of there.
10:18:21 And they are looking at the people with the code
10:18:24 enforcement like they devils.
10:18:28 And the city people, you all, is God.
10:18:33 But I disagree with that.
10:18:35 I really disagree.
10:18:36 I'm a poor man day behind that same thing that
10:18:39 happened.
10:18:40 I mean this same exact thing that put me out of
10:18:43 business, coming in and put liens on me.
10:18:46 Just last week, I was listening to you all talking

10:18:48 about the signs on Dale Mabry.
10:18:51 It's a given thing in this part of town, with the code
10:18:55 enforcement, you know, different things.
10:18:57 But when you come into poor neighborhoods, our people,
10:19:03 all wave to do is pray, that God will protect us.
10:19:07 But people with the demolition lien on it, you say you
10:19:12 all going to have compassion, and you all shouldn't be
10:19:14 in a big hurry to come in and tear the property down.
10:19:21 It looks like sometimes you politicians don't have a
10:19:24 heart in your body.
10:19:25 That's why I tell people don't trust politicians.
10:19:28 Whenever you elect a politician, a politician is going
10:19:31 to say, I'm going to help everybody, except the poor
10:19:35 peoples.
10:19:35 When you get elected it's middle class and the rich.
10:19:38 But this code enforcement thing is no grace and mercy.
10:19:41 It's no grace and mercy no where.
10:19:44 I heard a lawyer say awhile ago that they are going to
10:19:46 foreclose on homestead property.
10:19:49 Years ago I was one of the executive members on code
10:19:52 enforcement, you know.
10:19:53 And we were like renegades, like robbing peoples.

10:20:00 All over town.
10:20:01 Won time meet us in the library, somebody called the
10:20:06 sheriff and said crooks up in there going against the
10:20:09 city.
10:20:09 But anyway, though, we fight, and at that time they
10:20:13 was taking homestead property.
10:20:16 I tell peoples, now please don't die and leave your
10:20:19 children no property.
10:20:22 We have had young people come in and screaming and
10:20:24 hollering about their mama died, they left the house,
10:20:27 and they got a sign out there, $-- fine out there, now
10:20:33 $500 a day.
10:20:34 The children come to us screaming and hollering, oh,
10:20:37 mama done died and left her property.
10:20:39 People, don't die and leave your children no property
10:20:43 because code enforcement is going to get it, put the
10:20:46 lien on there.
10:20:46 And when that lien going to stay there.
10:20:48 (Bell sounds).
10:20:49 >>GWEN MILLER: Thank you.
10:20:50 Would anyone else like to speak?
10:20:52 We go to item number 6.

10:20:53 Ordinance for first reading.
10:20:55 Mrs. Saul-Sena, would you read that, please?
10:20:57 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: What page is it?
10:21:04 >>GWEN MILLER: Page 3.
10:21:11 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I'd like to move the following
10:21:13 ordinance, an ordinance authorizing certain
10:21:16 encroachments, balconies, canopies and appurtenant
10:21:21 subsurface foundations over a portion of a public
10:21:24 right-of-way known as 15th street and 5th
10:21:26 Avenue generally located at the northwest intersection
10:21:31 of 15th street and 5th Avenue in the City of
10:21:33 Tampa, Hillsborough County as more particularly
10:21:36 described herein subject to certain terms, covenants
10:21:38 and conditions and agreements as more particularly
10:21:40 described herein, providing an effective date.
10:21:42 >> Second.
10:21:43 (Motion Carried).
10:21:43 >>SHAWN HARRISON: I think we are now up to our 10:00
10:21:47 public hearings.
10:21:48 Items 54 through 60.
10:21:58 If there's anyone in the public that intends on
10:22:00 speaking on items 54 through 60, if you could all

10:22:02 please stand and raise your right hand to be sworn.
10:22:09 >>THE CLERK: Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth,
10:22:13 the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
10:22:15 Thank you.
10:22:17 >>> I ask that all written communications relative to
10:22:19 today's hearing that have been available to the public
10:22:21 at council's office be received and filed into the
10:22:24 record at this time.
10:22:27 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Can we have a motion to that,
10:22:29 please?
10:22:30 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: So moved.
10:22:31 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Do we have a second to that?
10:22:34 All in favor signify by saying Aye.
10:22:36 Motion carries.
10:22:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Two things.
10:22:38 Number one, I ask if any member has had any ex parte
10:22:43 communications, verbal communication was any
10:22:45 representative or petitioner, or any members of the
10:22:47 public in connection with any of the petitions that
10:22:49 will be heard, the member should disclose the identity
10:22:51 of the person, group or entity with whom the verbal
10:22:55 communication occurred and the substance of that

10:22:57 verbal communication.
10:22:58 Finally, ladies and gentlemen, fur going to testify,
10:23:00 please when you state your name, reaffirm for the
10:23:03 record that you have been sworn.
10:23:04 I put a little sign to remind you.
10:23:06 Thank you.
10:23:10 >>HEATHER LAMBOY: Land development.
10:23:12 I have been sworn.
10:23:13 The subject property is located at 4033 north River
10:23:16 View Avenue.
10:23:17 If you look at the Elmo, the site is located along the
10:23:21 Hillsborough River, River View, near wad lawn.
10:23:25 To understand the context from a zoning perspective,
10:23:28 the properties to the south is multifamily residential
10:23:31 RM-24.
10:23:32 There are town homes across the street that is a PD
10:23:36 zoning.
10:23:36 There's a pocket of neighborhood commercial down the
10:23:38 street.
10:23:38 And the rest is residential single-family RS-50.
10:23:47 Reveals the subject site which is relatively large.
10:23:51 Partly there are two dwelling units on the site.

10:23:54 There's a house and a guest house.
10:23:57 These are the town homes.
10:23:58 The multifamily residential.
10:24:00 Single-family residential.
10:24:04 A view of the property across the street.
10:24:07 The existing residence.
10:24:11 A view of the multifamily residential to the south.
10:24:17 This is a picture taken from Woodlawn, single-family
10:24:20 residential that's been developed and redeveloped
10:24:22 along the river.
10:24:25 A view of the town homes across the street to the
10:24:27 west.
10:24:31 And homes across the street to the north.
10:24:36 And before I start with the listing of staff concerns,
10:24:41 I would like to illustrate to you the elevation.
10:24:46 This is the river elevation.
10:24:50 And this is the elevation along River View.
10:24:56 The elevation -- instead of concrete the petitioner is
10:25:03 proposing pavers along the entrance.
10:25:07 Proposing rezoning property to PD for 4 semi detached
10:25:11 single-family units.
10:25:12 The four units will be housed in two buildings

10:25:14 designed in a Mediterranean revival style.
10:25:17 Each unit will have a private courtyard with access to
10:25:19 a large common area that will be controlled by a
10:25:22 homeowners association.
10:25:25 The site planning has been addressed with reference to
10:25:28 the tree.
10:25:29 There's a large tree on-site.
10:25:30 I don't know if you recall.
10:25:39 Let me get back to it.
10:25:46 There's been a lot of discussion, a tree at the center
10:25:49 of the site.
10:25:50 And after several site visits by the staff and the
10:25:53 Parks and Recreation Department, it was determined
10:25:57 that that tree could come down, but there needs to be
10:26:02 substantial replacement on-site, and two other trees
10:26:05 need to be retained.
10:26:07 So the petitioner has had a lot of negotiation with
10:26:11 the Parks and Recreation Department and are here for
10:26:14 questions if necessary.
10:26:15 So there is still a technical objection from Parks and
10:26:19 Recreation Department, they hate to see any tree go,
10:26:22 but there has been a lot of negotiation with regard to

10:26:24 that.
10:26:25 Otherwise, for single-family attached or semi detached
10:26:29 dwelling units, the petitioner meets those standards,
10:26:32 and there are no other objections.
10:26:35 That concludes staff comments.
10:26:37 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Mrs. Saul-Sena.
10:26:38 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Does the submitted site plan show a
10:26:41 replacement, adequate replacement on-site?
10:26:45 >>HEATHER LAMBOY: The petitioner has to make one
10:26:47 correction to the tree table that he assured me that
10:26:50 he will do.
10:26:51 And we do have a confirmation from petitioner that the
10:26:56 caliper of at least ten inches or above for the
10:27:00 replacement trees on-site.
10:27:03 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: One other question.
10:27:07 Do we currently have any rules that talk about the
10:27:10 amount of impervious surface that's adjacent to the
10:27:15 river?
10:27:15 Do we have like a minimum, that 50% of the site be
10:27:22 pervious?
10:27:24 >>HEATHER LAMBOY: At this point, Mrs. Saul-Sena, don't
10:27:26 believe so.

10:27:26 I will double check because the hearing is going on
10:27:30 and report back to you.
10:27:31 >> On the rear portion of the property where it goes
10:27:33 down to the river, it appears from the picture that
10:27:35 there's a big long -- we are all very aware of how you
10:27:39 are not supposed to have water going to the river
10:27:42 because it has pesticides in the water.
10:27:45 Is there any kind of drainage or catchment or response
10:27:49 to making sure that water doesn't flow from this site
10:27:53 directly into the river?
10:27:55 >>> Well, I would imagine through the stormwater
10:27:57 review and construction services that would be
10:27:59 addressed, because everyone though there are some
10:28:02 standards with reference to that, and I will double
10:28:05 check the plan and report back to you.
10:28:07 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Any other questions for Heather?
10:28:10 Ms. Alvarez?
10:28:12 >>MARY ALVAREZ: This is at the very end of River View?
10:28:18 >>> That's correct, that portion.
10:28:21 >>MARY ALVAREZ: From what you are showing me here,
10:28:23 there doesn't seem to be anything else over there, no
10:28:25 residential units or anything other than what's across

10:28:29 the street, right?
10:28:31 >>> It is just the town homes that I showed to you
10:28:33 earlier.
10:28:34 >> How are they getting into this property?
10:28:37 >>> There is actually a drive up River View.
10:28:41 >> What?
10:28:41 >>> A drive off of River View.
10:28:43 >> Is there an easement that goes into that area?
10:28:45 Or is it a road?
10:28:47 >>> Well, River View continues to the southern edge of
10:28:49 this property.
10:28:51 So they are able to access it off of River View and
10:28:54 into the driveway.
10:28:57 >> So what's next?
10:28:58 What's next to this property on this side, the south
10:29:03 side?
10:29:03 >>> On the south side is a multifamily residential.
10:29:06 There's a large six-foot wooden fence that truncates
10:29:08 River View at that point.
10:29:11 Plus where that line is on the map that you're looking
10:29:13 at.
10:29:13 And then there is the multifamily residential.

10:29:16 So it's it pretty much stops right there.
10:29:19 >> So there is property, some residential, but not a
10:29:22 lot.
10:29:23 Just one house or something would you say?
10:29:26 >>> Well, the multifamily residential is like 200
10:29:29 units.
10:29:30 To the side there's about favor to seven town homes
10:29:34 across the street.
10:29:36 >> But what I'm talking about is on the south side of
10:29:39 it.
10:29:40 Do you want to repeat that again?
10:29:42 On the south side of it.
10:29:43 Not the --
10:29:45 >>> On the south side of the subject property itself?
10:29:48 >> Going towards the river.
10:29:53 >>> I guess I don't understand your question.
10:29:54 Sorry.
10:29:54 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Okay.
10:29:57 Here's the property.
10:30:03 Okay, I can see it here now.
10:30:14 >>> There's a guest house on the property itself.
10:30:16 The guest house you can't see because of the tree

10:30:18 cover.
10:30:18 >> I guess my question would be, how do these people
10:30:21 on the river get to this area?
10:30:26 Is there a road there?
10:30:27 Or do they have to go to this property?
10:30:33 >>> The people on the river access their property from
10:30:34 River View, south on Hillsborough or Martin Luther
10:30:40 King.
10:30:42 >> From Martin Luther King?
10:30:43 >>> I can't remember.
10:30:44 I went to the site in January.
10:30:50 >> I can't see a road in here or anything.
10:30:53 But nobody is going to this property, what I am trying
10:30:56 to say, the property in question?
10:30:59 >>> It's like a cul-de-sac.
10:31:01 There's very little activity down there.
10:31:04 There's an access to town homes across the street.
10:31:08 And then access to this property.
10:31:10 And that's it.
10:31:14 >> All right.
10:31:14 Thank you.
10:31:14 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Any other questions for Heather? So

10:31:18 is there still a staff objection or not?
10:31:21 >>> There is still the staff technical objection and
10:31:24 we do want to see the caliper and the tree table is
10:31:28 corrected.
10:31:29 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Thank you.
10:31:32 Is there a Planning Commission report on this?
10:31:39 >>> He's unable to be here today but Tony Garcia does
10:31:42 find it is consistent with the comprehensive plan.
10:31:44 The comprehensive plan designation is R-10.
10:31:48 And it is consistent with the designation.
10:31:54 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Thank you.
10:31:55 Petitioner.
10:32:05 >> Mary Daniels, Land Development Coordination.
10:32:07 I have been sworn.
10:32:08 With regards to the technical on the property there's
10:32:11 a grand tree and then there are two very large, over
10:32:15 26-inch protected trees.
10:32:18 We negotiated with the petitioner.
10:32:24 And decided we would place a technical objection on
10:32:26 the development, providing that all trees removed
10:32:31 on-site, we get full replacement value.
10:32:33 There's some trees on the rear of the property that

10:32:36 are very large that are being removed.
10:32:39 And some of them are in declining condition.
10:32:42 But in negotiation, we thought if we could get large
10:32:45 caliper trees to replace all the trees removed on-site
10:32:49 regardless of condition, that that would mitigate the
10:32:51 removal of the objection to the removal of the grand
10:32:55 tree.
10:33:01 >>SHAWN HARRISON: okay.
10:33:02 Thank you.
10:33:06 >>> Good morning, my name is Mark Bentley, 201 North
10:33:09 Franklin Street representing petitioners, Joseph and
10:33:12 Joe decapitano and the radiant group.
10:33:15 Before we get started I have a few exhibits.
10:33:18 If I could just leave the landscape plan, I think that
10:33:21 will resolve a lot of the issues.
10:33:24 Would you set up the easel?
10:34:49 What I have distributed is a composite exhibit with a
10:34:51 lot of elevations, and photographs and things of that
10:34:53 nature, that will answer a lot of the questions that
10:34:57 we already heard raised.
10:34:59 And secondarily a reduced version of the landscape
10:35:02 plan.

10:35:02 The full version is here.
10:35:03 We submit that to staff.
10:35:04 First I would like to express our appreciation on
10:35:10 behalf of our clients and our team here, which is Joe
10:35:14 Standick, decapitano, our architect Mike Hampton, for
10:35:20 the council's willingness to assist us through this
10:35:22 process.
10:35:23 It's been a long process and as a result of paid
10:35:26 dividends wave a very good project as a result of
10:35:28 input from not only council but from the neighborhood.
10:35:30 You might recall on March -- February 8, I was here on
10:35:35 an evening meeting, and there were 23 opponents.
10:35:38 And subsequently, we convened a meeting I think on
10:35:41 March 8th at the West Tampa convention center and
10:35:44 invited the neighborhood, and at that meeting we laid
10:35:49 all the cards on the table and received their input
10:35:51 and there's a lot of concern about the project prior
10:35:53 to the meeting because they felt it was a rental
10:35:55 project, things of that nature.
10:35:56 But actually there are four villa town homes and they
10:35:59 resemble two single-family homes.
10:36:05 Also, as Mary and Heather mentioned, subsequent to the

10:36:09 last meeting there was an opportunity to totally
10:36:10 redesign the project, which has taken us awhile to get
10:36:14 here, and what we have done is shifted buildings
10:36:16 around, in doing that, and also instead of having
10:36:19 concrete, got pervious pavers now and had a chance to
10:36:27 save protected trees.
10:36:30 And we agreed here again to, at mitigation, replace
10:36:34 the trees that are removed, substantial trees, in the
10:36:37 range of 10 to 12 inches and that's not a problem at
10:36:40 all.
10:36:45 So at this point we have absolutely no objections from
10:36:47 any agency with the exception of technical objections
10:36:50 because it is technically a grand tree located on the
10:36:53 property.
10:37:00 I'll just walk you through exhibits instead of going
10:37:02 through the Elmo here.
10:37:03 But if you look at exhibit A, as a result of our
10:37:05 efforts, we received -- and these were actual
10:37:11 opponents, and they voluntarily sent these letters in
10:37:15 or e-mailed to City Council.
10:37:17 And the one letter, I think, is really important,
10:37:21 speaks volumes.

10:37:22 This is a letter in exhibit A. The third letter is
10:37:25 from Gary band directed to City Council.
10:37:28 And Mr. Band lives immediately north of the subject
10:37:31 property, the adjacent neighbor.
10:37:34 And he called a few weeks ago and he volunteered to
10:37:36 send this letter in support.
10:37:37 And he says in part, I believe this project will be a
10:37:40 quality development and provide a benefit to the
10:37:42 community.
10:37:44 I urge City Council to grant the petitioner's request.
10:37:56 >> I'm looking did he site plan and there appears to
10:37:58 be a 25-inch oak on the property line between you and
10:38:00 Mr. Banks.
10:38:01 Is that oak being retained?
10:38:03 >>> It is.
10:38:03 It's one of the ones we shifted the building around.
10:38:06 Actually, I think 26 inches.
10:38:07 And that's being saved.
10:38:08 As a result of the redesign.
10:38:10 Also there was one on the south side, the 30 inches.
10:38:14 And that likewise is being saved.
10:38:16 And Mrs. Alvarez, to answer your question, River View

10:38:19 is a dedicated road and dead-ends in front of our
10:38:24 property actually.
10:38:25 South of Woodlawn.
10:38:27 To the south of an old apartment complex.
10:38:29 Density is approximately 24 units per acre.
10:38:31 They have no access to River View.
10:38:32 They go out to MLK.
10:38:36 When someone is leaving our property to go north,
10:38:38 actually they would leave our dead-end, hang a left on
10:38:42 Woodlawn and then go to Howard or what have you.
10:38:45 There would be no traffic going north on River View.
10:38:48 No reason to do that.
10:38:49 And while we are talking about traffic, these are town
10:38:52 home developments and they generate roughly 6 to 7
10:38:55 trips daily and there are six trips a.m. to p.m. peak,
10:39:01 so six cars.
10:39:02 We have two houses there already.
10:39:05 Their trip generation is ten per unit.
10:39:07 It's really not going to be a change.
10:39:09 Again they are going to go up to Woodlawn and hang a
10:39:12 left and get out of the project.
10:39:17 What I would like to do now is talk about the property

10:39:19 and some of the unique characteristics that justify
10:39:22 this project.
10:39:24 The sides of the property is almost 25,000 square feet
10:39:27 larger than any property in the vicinity.
10:39:29 It's the only property that dead-ends at River View
10:39:33 obviously.
10:39:33 And is the only property in the area with multifamily
10:39:36 on two sides.
10:39:37 If you look at exhibit D, that's an aerial photograph
10:39:44 they've on the Elmo here.
10:39:52 You can see the apartment complexion to the south.
10:40:01 This is the apartment complex located immediately to
10:40:04 the south at the dead-end.
10:40:05 >> Is that near the garden?
10:40:07 >>> You know, Mrs. Alvarez, I'm not positive.
10:40:11 I think you're right.
10:40:20 Then GOP to exhibit D, town homes to the west south of
10:40:24 Woodlawn.
10:40:24 And the density for that project is 111.2 units per
10:40:28 acre so -- 11.27 units.
10:40:33 We have Mr. Bang and Woodlawn, essentially.
10:40:37 And what I have given you is the site plan for that

10:40:39 town home project as exhibit E.
10:40:42 Another unique characteristic of the property, if you
10:40:45 go to exhibit F, is that this is the only property in
10:40:47 the area that has two land use designations.
10:40:52 One is residential 35.
10:40:53 Another one is residential 10.
10:40:55 And theoretically assuming you obtain proper zoning
10:40:58 could you have nine units on the property.
10:41:00 And we are proposing four that resemble two
10:41:02 single-family homes.
10:41:09 Exhibit G, I have highlighted multifamily which is in
10:41:12 close proximity to the subject property.
10:41:14 Here again is the townhouse project and the apartments
10:41:16 to the south.
10:41:26 Obviously we are on the Hillsborough River so we
10:41:27 designed the project to have two front yards which is
10:41:30 a real challenge to meet your design standards.
10:41:34 If you go to exhibit H, these are the renderings of
10:41:37 the project. I believe they were submitted to you.
10:41:47 They are just different perspectives from the River
10:41:49 View area.
10:41:50 They looked like two conventional single-family homes.

10:41:53 The price points of these units is approximately
10:41:54 $700,000 each. Ms. Saul-Sena was concerned about code
10:41:57 requirements for green space. Chapter 13 requires
10:42:07 open green space per townhouse unit, and that would be
10:42:13 approximately 4400 square feet that would be required.
10:42:23 Actually 3,000 square feet.
10:42:25 Oh, plus 350 for the utility use.
10:42:30 Our numbers, 4400.
10:42:32 On our site plan we have 11,600 square feet of open
10:42:36 space so we are more than double which the code
10:42:38 requires.
10:42:39 With respect to retention, obviously wave to treat
10:42:46 prior to discharge to the Hillsborough River.
10:42:47 If you look at the site plan as retention area and
10:42:49 that's where all the retention is going to be treated
10:42:51 in that area before it's discharged in the
10:42:53 Hillsborough River.
10:42:55 >> And everything will flow toward that?
10:42:57 >>> Yes, ma'am.
10:43:02 Moving right along.
10:43:04 If you go to exhibit K, here's the good shot of the
10:43:07 dead-end.

10:43:07 And our driveway, if you look at that photo, just on
10:43:12 the left side, essentially, like Heather indicated,
10:43:21 functions more as a cul-de-sac, private cul-de-sac.
10:43:31 We think from a land use standpoint it's a very
10:43:33 compatible use.
10:43:34 It's planning 101.
10:43:36 You have this massive multifamily project, 200 units
10:43:39 directly south of us.
10:43:40 And where that transition into the neighborhood.
10:43:43 And everything essentially south of Woodlawn is
10:43:51 multifamily.
10:43:51 So Mr. Bang is in support.
10:43:53 And a lot of people have really gotten on board.
10:43:55 Obviously when you go through this process you can't
10:43:57 pleas everybody.
10:43:58 And the reason we are here for a morning meeting is on
10:44:02 March 23rd, when we didn't have a quorum, Chairman
10:44:07 Miller asked twice at the hearing, is anybody in
10:44:10 opposition, and hearing none, she set it for a morning
10:44:13 meeting and that's why we are here.
10:44:14 Apparently a couple people showed up last week, I was
10:44:17 unaware of.

10:44:18 I want to make it clear to council we really reached
10:44:20 out and tried to communicate with these people.
10:44:23 We sent five letters and or notices, we had the public
10:44:25 meeting, I know these people did not attend.
10:44:28 So it's kind of news to us.
10:44:30 Other than that, most of the people have bought into
10:44:33 the project.
10:44:34 As I mention, here's a map.
10:44:41 These were opponents, all live on the river, as a
10:44:44 result of our efforts to redesign based on letters in
10:44:47 support to City Council, including Mr. Bang, Mr. Carry
10:44:52 and Mr. Consuega.
10:44:57 Another interesting side bar.
10:44:58 If you have been to River View, most of these lots
10:45:03 exceed 100 lineal feet.
10:45:05 So for-sale to buildable lots.
10:45:10 A lot of these are split.
10:45:12 So these have K have more intense development than
10:45:15 anything you are seeing out there right now.
10:45:18 That's essentially what's going on on River View, as a
10:45:20 result of the land values and the zoning that's
10:45:23 supplied to the property.

10:45:24 And if you have any specific questions concerning the
10:45:26 trees, a lot of you might know he's instrumental in
10:45:31 relocating the grand oaks at U. T. and the Hyde Park,
10:45:36 I think you all went through that exercise last year.
10:45:44 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Thanks to Ms. Saul-Sena we saved the
10:45:46 tree.
10:45:48 >> And Mr. Stanley.
10:45:50 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Yes.
10:45:53 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Any other questions for Mr. Bentley
10:45:55 at this time?
10:46:06 Is there anyone to speak on item 54?
10:46:09 Anyone?
10:46:09 We need a motion to close.
10:46:11 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Nobody wants to speak?
10:46:13 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Nobody is here.
10:46:14 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Would you like to ask a question of
10:46:16 staff?
10:46:19 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: No.
10:46:20 I'm just surprised because weighed several people last
10:46:23 week.
10:46:25 >>ROSE FERLITA: I think that goes to the credit of the
10:46:28 petitioner.

10:46:28 Obviously they have had a lot of discussions, and made
10:46:31 attempts to save a couple of the trees that perhaps
10:46:34 were in question last time.
10:46:35 So I think that's why we had no response to your
10:46:38 offer, Mr. Chairman.
10:46:42 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Mr. Bentley, did the petitioner say
10:46:45 that the technical problem that we were having with
10:46:51 the trees, is that going to be resolved?
10:46:54 >>> Yes.
10:46:54 What we have done is we agreed to more mitigation than
10:46:57 your code requires to replace the trees.
10:47:00 Even the one that is were not viable trees that were
10:47:02 going to be removed anyhow, we are going to replace
10:47:04 those with 10 to 20-inch caliper trees.
10:47:11 >> Is that all right with you Mrs. Lamboy?
10:47:15 Do you have any objection to being removed?
10:47:18 >>> Yes, objections are removed.
10:47:23 We wanted to make sure all your concerns were
10:47:25 addressed by Mr. Bentley.
10:47:27 And that construction services does their review
10:47:33 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Going from 23 to zero is quite an
10:47:41 accomplishment.

10:47:42 Need to close.
10:47:43 >> So moved.
10:47:44 >> Second.
10:47:44 (Motion carried).
10:47:44 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Mr. White had some comments.
10:47:47 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Mr. Bentley, I'm pleased to here
10:47:53 you are savoring the trees.
10:47:55 I thought the report from your tree expert was really
10:47:58 fascinating
10:48:10 Were it not for our staff saying they were willing to
10:48:12 recognize that it might not survive the construction
10:48:15 process.
10:48:16 I think it's so important in working with the spirit
10:48:19 of the city to be on the side of preservation.
10:48:26 Very concerned of the site plan that you submitted
10:48:28 that there won't be water flowing directly into the
10:48:33 Hillsborough River.
10:48:33 You identified in your speech that actually it will be
10:48:36 contained --
10:48:37 >>> It has to be treated before it's discharged.
10:48:40 >> Right.
10:48:40 And I want you, when the contractors are out there

10:48:44 moving dirt around, I want to make sure that's indeed
10:48:46 what happens.
10:48:47 Because it's a real problem in the Hillsborough River
10:48:49 and we don't want fertilizer.
10:48:52 >>> We understand.
10:48:52 Thank you.
10:48:53 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Okay.
10:48:54 Mrs. Alvarez?
10:48:55 >>MARY ALVAREZ: I just want to compliment you,
10:48:58 Mr. Bentley, for putting a great presentation
10:49:01 together.
10:49:02 It just goes to show how though you can be -- how
10:49:10 thorough you can especially when it comes to us.
10:49:13 I think it's going to be a great project for this
10:49:15 piece of land.
10:49:15 It would have been a concern had it been a little
10:49:18 further north on this area.
10:49:19 But where this is, and only two buildings, I think,
10:49:28 that it's going to be a beautiful project for the
10:49:29 neighborhood.
10:49:30 We have seen that neighborhood grow by leaps and
10:49:34 bounds.

10:49:34 And people are really protective of that neighborhood.
10:49:38 So I think what you have shown us here is something
10:49:41 that this neighborhood will be proud of.
10:49:46 >>MARK BENTLEY: Thank you very much.
10:49:47 >>ROSE FERLITA: I'm handing this to Mr. White to
10:49:49 expedite this because I think you have gotten your
10:49:52 share of compliments already.
10:49:54 (Laughter).
10:49:56 >>> It's so rare.
10:49:58 (Laughter).
10:49:59 >>ROSE FERLITA: I'll even say "second" before he
10:50:02 finishes reading.
10:50:03 >>KEVIN WHITE: Move an ordinance of property in the
10:50:06 general vicinity of 4033 north River View Avenue in
10:50:09 the city of Tampa, Florida from RS-50 single family to
10:50:13 PD single family, providing an effective date.
10:50:16 >>SHAWN HARRISON: We have a motion and second.
10:50:18 Any discussion of the moths motion?
10:50:20 (Motion carried).
10:50:22 >>MARK BENTLEY: Thank you very much.
10:50:23 We really appreciate it.
10:50:24 Would you receive and file the documents, please?

10:50:26 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Yes, we will do that at the end.
10:50:28 Item number 55.
10:50:50 >>HEATHER LAMBOY: Land development.
10:50:51 I have been sworn.
10:50:55 The subject part of the parking lot at the
10:50:58 intersection of Whiting and Morgan on the northeast
10:51:02 corner, the lot on Washington and adjacent to the
10:51:10 Marion street transit parkway.
10:51:13 The petitioner is proposing to rezone the property
10:51:15 located at 501, 507 Washington street and 102 north
10:51:21 Morgan street from CBD1 to CGD 2.
10:51:27 You can see, as you may recall in 2004, there was a
10:51:31 similar project on the adjacent block, which is this
10:51:37 project which was rezoned CBD2.
10:51:40 This is the subject property.
10:51:41 And you can see there are several pockets of "2" in
10:51:45 this area. This is in the subdistrict of the central
10:51:48 business district known as the east district.
10:51:53 It will have a maximum height and contain 51 stories.
10:51:57 39 stories will be dedicated to 172 residential
10:52:00 condominium units, nine upgrade, one level below
10:52:04 grade, parking, dedicated garage structure, and the

10:52:08 base of the building contain retail, residential,
10:52:10 lobby and service areas.
10:52:11 There will be approximately 15,000 square feet of
10:52:14 retail uses that will be housed at ground level.
10:52:17 And I would just like to commend the petitioner,
10:52:20 because there is 17% of open space on the ground
10:52:24 level, open to the sky.
10:52:27 Considering the size of our city blocks in Tampa, that
10:52:29 is a large amount of space, with very wide sidewalks,
10:52:34 a lot of open space, arcades.
10:52:36 I am certainly not going to get into the architecture.
10:52:39 I am not going to steal the petitioner's steam.
10:52:43 Petitioner has a presentation to make but code
10:52:45 requires only 10%, and 17% has been provided to the
10:52:48 city.
10:53:01 Petitioner addressed all concerns that staff had.
10:53:07 The petitioner did comply.
10:53:10 A note needed to be added to the site plan regarding
10:53:12 mitigation for movement.
10:53:15 Mitigation was agreed to by transportation, $40,000
10:53:19 and change.
10:53:20 I will go ahead and go over the Planning Commission

10:53:22 findings since Mr. Garcia is not here.
10:53:25 In short, the development is consistent with the
10:53:29 comprehensive plan.
10:53:32 And there are no objections from Mr. Garcia as well.
10:53:37 That is staff comments.
10:53:39 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Petitioner?
10:54:02 >>> It's the other David Smith, not the city attorney.
10:54:04 401 East Jackson Street 336 oh 02, planner, for the
10:54:10 petitioner, Tampa towers, LLC.
10:54:13 Staff has given a very good overview of where the
10:54:15 property is located.
10:54:17 It's the first project, I might note, on the Marion
10:54:20 street transitway providing for full opportunities for
10:54:22 multi-modal connectivity for a project of this size,
10:54:25 with the rest of downtown.
10:54:27 And in providing for opportunities in the street grid.
10:54:31 I think the salient elements on the project are, we
10:54:34 have 472 units, 15,000 square feet of retail space.
10:54:40 The pedestrian arcades allow for ground level provides
10:54:44 for tremendous circulation, pedestrian connectivity.
10:54:49 I will put a few on the Elmo but you do have these in
10:54:51 your packages, and I will also flip the board so it

10:54:57 can be seen.
10:55:18 What we have on this property is a great footprint.
10:55:21 And the footprint provides for 20 to 30 feet of
10:55:25 pedestrianways all around the building. What this
10:55:28 means is in addition to the open space to the sky,
10:55:30 there's an arcade type base that's all the way around
10:55:33 the property.
10:55:39 That's where the awnings are.
10:55:43 This Marion street elevation provides an opportunity
10:55:45 for to see how it's going to interface with bus
10:55:48 transitway.
10:55:48 It has multiple shop entrances, arcades, a lot of open
10:55:54 space, the palm trees are put in there so you can see
10:55:57 the facade.
10:55:59 We will be working with landscaping and Parks
10:56:01 Department relative to the pallet that the will be in
10:56:04 the streetscape.
10:56:05 This is the Whiting Street entrance which has a broad
10:56:08 canopy, a drop-off and unload, that is strictly for
10:56:12 visitors, and guests to come off and drop off people
10:56:18 in the shops.
10:56:19 As you come over Washington street, which is basically

10:56:21 the least traveled street, is for the Compaq tore.
10:56:29 That is not dissimilar with the SunTrust building than
10:56:34 on Washington.
10:56:35 When you come over to Tampa City Center, that's also
10:56:37 the dead-end street where they have the loading and
10:56:40 unloading as well.
10:56:41 When you come over Morgan street, Morgan street is
10:56:44 where we actually have our entranceways in an and out
10:56:48 of the parking garage.
10:56:49 There are dedicated floors for the retail visitors.
10:56:54 Then there's gated opportunities for the residents to
10:56:57 get up to the higher levels.
10:56:59 They also have separate exit ramps as well.
10:57:06 The staff has indicated that the open space -- and I
10:57:09 keep going back to that.
10:57:11 In addition to the open space, we have a site plan
10:57:13 that provides for all four corners for the opportunity
10:57:16 for public art.
10:57:19 When you look at the site plan, there are basically
10:57:21 these diamond precedents at all four corners that
10:57:27 provide an opportunity for there oh to be public art
10:57:30 or fountains.

10:57:33 I'll some this elevation that enough your package.
10:57:37 This particular corner is replicated at all four to
10:57:40 provide for nice continuity all the way around the
10:57:44 site.
10:57:54 If you will indulge me I have a quick video to show
10:57:58 the concept.
10:58:48 These are parking lots right now.
10:58:50 Very shortly you will see the building come out of the
10:58:52 ground.
10:58:52 Construction will not be near as quick as the video.
10:58:55 It will come up in just a second.
10:58:58 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Are those two-way streets in there?
10:59:05 >>> Yes, ma'am.
10:59:05 Except for the Marion.
10:59:07 Marion is a one-way transit but it has two-way access
10:59:10 after certain hours.
10:59:18 This gives you context as to where the property is
10:59:21 relative to downtown in relationship to the
10:59:23 Channelside area.
10:59:29 It will give you a perspective of what the people will
10:59:32 be looking at as far as visual, as this -- come

10:59:38 through their units, looking out to the south.
10:59:53 The property has outstanding views to the south.
10:59:59 And this is a mock-up model of the transitway and the
11:00:05 air okayed effect along the pedestrian corridors.
11:00:09 While this is playing, Mrs. Saul-Sena, you asked, 20
11:00:12 to 30 feet of pedestrian walkways around the whole
11:00:14 base of the property.
11:00:16 And 17% open space.
11:00:23 That concludes the video.
11:00:26 Again, I think this is a very pedestrian-friendly
11:00:30 project, well located as far as multi-modal
11:00:34 opportunities, provides an opportunity in the
11:00:36 centerpiece.
11:00:36 We think the architecture on the property is very
11:00:40 outstanding for the area.
11:00:41 And when built we think it will be a significant
11:00:44 building.
11:00:45 I'll answer any questions.
11:00:46 We do have the development team here.
11:01:00 Transportation study was provided to the city as a
11:01:04 review.
11:01:05 Also due to the downtown DRI we had a proportionate

11:01:08 fair share calculation, because we are slightly over,
11:01:12 would be 150,000 square feet of office equivalent that
11:01:14 triggers a portion of shared contribution based upon a
11:01:17 study.
11:01:18 And that's where the $48,000 in additional mitigation
11:01:21 came from.
11:01:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: So if we could look at -- is there
11:01:29 a picture or drawing that can show the traffic flow?
11:01:32 The reason I have some concern, as you get closer to
11:01:36 the ice palace area, you get into more congestion and
11:01:43 that sort of thing.
11:01:44 I just want to make sure we are not exacerbating the
11:01:47 congestion there, or the congestion that the folks on
11:01:50 Harbor Island suffer from.
11:01:55 >>> Yes, sir.
11:01:56 This is Washington street.
11:01:58 Whiting Street.
11:01:59 Morgan.
11:02:00 And Marion transitway.
11:02:08 These are the in and outs for the property.
11:02:12 Keeping it in perspective, yes, there will be
11:02:14 additional traffic coming to this site.

11:02:17 But as a downtown building what we are anticipating is
11:02:20 that these properties are going to be occupied
11:02:22 principally by people or a large number of people that
11:02:25 will be working downtown, and will have an opportunity
11:02:28 through the Marion street connection to use the
11:02:31 connector, or walk to the office buildings, so as far
11:02:36 as volume of traffic, we actually have a relatively
11:02:41 low volume of traffic anticipated from the 472 units.
11:02:45 15 that you square feet of retail is going to be
11:02:48 either restaurant type of uses or support type uses
11:02:51 for the people that are living in the facility.
11:02:54 But also be used by folks that are going to the Ice
11:02:58 Palace.
11:02:58 I do not think this is going to exacerbate any type of
11:03:01 transportation issue for the Harbor Island folks,
11:03:03 because we are coming in Morgan.
11:03:06 Morgan, when it runs right down to the Ice Palace, is
11:03:10 a directed shot, not a typically path that the people
11:03:16 on Harbor Island take.
11:03:17 They are looking for direct access to the bridges,
11:03:19 more so than Morgan.
11:03:21 Morgan is an Ice Palace location street.

11:03:24 Most of the time it doesn't have a lot of volume, in
11:03:27 the mornings for people coming to work, parking in the
11:03:29 vacant lots, to the south.
11:03:32 Though we believe that -- I believe transportation
11:03:35 staff would agree that the movements that are failing
11:03:40 are very minor as far as turning movements and the
11:03:42 capacity in the p.m. peak hour is an acceptable level
11:03:46 of service.
11:03:46 >> The other question I have, some of the other
11:03:49 developers, high-rise developers downtown in the last
11:03:53 year or two, have voluntarily contributed either like
11:03:56 to the Riverwalk, or to the two-waying of some of the
11:04:00 downtown streets, just on a voluntary basis.
11:04:04 Has that subject come up with your clients?
11:04:07 >>> Nothing has been suggested or asked.
11:04:09 So we haven't discussed it because the question hasn't
11:04:12 been raised.
11:04:15 Hopefully the $48,000 in additional mitigation that
11:04:18 was provided would assist in that.
11:04:22 A lot of the projects coming downtown, we were like
11:04:27 trips in the p.m. peak over the equivalent office
11:04:31 building side.

11:04:32 So we could have down scaled the building slightly and
11:04:34 come under that.
11:04:35 Rather than do that we figured we would contribute a
11:04:39 proportionate fair share.
11:04:40 >> The constraints on that money would probably be
11:04:43 they have to go to build capacity or something like
11:04:45 that.
11:04:45 >>> Well, it's improvements -- either improvements in
11:04:48 the downtown area related to circulation or gateway
11:04:51 improvements, and there's no real earmark other than
11:04:54 it has to be in the downtown area for the downtown
11:04:56 DRI.
11:04:58 Melanie may be able to comment on that.
11:05:01 But it wasn't a question before us so that's the only
11:05:04 reason I don't have an answer for you.
11:05:08 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Any other questions of petitioner?
11:05:12 Thank you, Mr. Smith.
11:05:12 Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak
11:05:14 on item number 55?
11:05:16 We have a question.
11:05:16 Mrs. Saul-Sena.
11:05:17 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I want to ask Mr. Wilson a question

11:05:21 if he's in the audience.
11:05:22 I saw a report from staff that the petitioner agreed
11:05:24 to meet our design standards.
11:05:27 Will you be weighing in at 30, 60, 90, and will
11:05:31 parking westbound screened?
11:05:32 >>WILSON STAIR: City urban design manager.
11:05:35 I have not been sworn in.
11:05:37 Sorry.
11:05:44 (Oath administered by Clerk)
11:05:45 I do.
11:05:45 Yes, to answer your question.
11:05:49 We will be reviewing the 30, 60 and 90.
11:05:53 And they have been extremely cooperative in the design
11:05:55 end.
11:05:58 I just see good things with this building.
11:06:00 I think it's going to give us a signature building
11:06:02 downtown.
11:06:03 And look forward to working with them.
11:06:05 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you.
11:06:07 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Thank you.
11:06:09 Mr. Dingfelder?
11:06:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Mr. Daignault, the question came

11:06:14 up, if they have to make this $44,000 proportion
11:06:22 contribution, what type of constraints are there in
11:06:23 regard to using that money?
11:06:25 And could it be used for the two-weighing projects,
11:06:30 the two-way projects that we are doing?
11:06:33 >>> Melanie Calloway, transportation.
11:06:36 I was sworn.
11:06:38 When they calculated their mitigation it was around
11:06:44 the intersection to which they studied.
11:06:49 The two-waying of streets is not a capacity
11:06:53 improvement, nor is it anything outlined in the study.
11:07:03 We are kind of trying to use it in another capacity to
11:07:06 improve our roadways downtown.
11:07:08 But we haven't had a definite answer of what we are
11:07:12 going to do with the mitigation we have been asking
11:07:15 for.
11:07:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Do you have any expectations of
11:07:20 what that money would be used for?
11:07:22 >>> We are hoping it would be for an improvement
11:07:25 project that we feel might be needed.
11:07:27 But it's very preliminary and I'm not really even
11:07:32 sure.

11:07:34 But as far as I know, it wouldn't go from the two
11:07:39 way-ing of the streets.
11:07:41 That's all I know.
11:07:43 >>> Ron Weaver, legal counsel for the project.
11:07:47 There are there's $48,000, sideways is number one
11:07:53 according to your DRI 2004 version.
11:07:55 This is page 6 of your downtown DRI.
11:07:57 The first is driveways. The second is rate and left
11:08:01 turn lanes leading to deceleration or excelers,
11:08:05 traffic control measures, fourth, curb cuts and drive
11:08:08 ways.
11:08:08 Fifth, median cuts and closing the driveways.
11:08:11 Sixth, improvements to public roads immediately
11:08:13 adjacent to or near the site of the proposed
11:08:16 development.
11:08:17 Seventh, improvements to the gateways which mate
11:08:21 include your Riverwalk, if your staff looks at it that
11:08:23 way, into the DRI.
11:08:25 If the study indicates that improvements are necessary
11:08:28 as a result of a new development.
11:08:29 Number 7 is a wide-open gateway provision.
11:08:35 In your downtown DRI.

11:08:37 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Thank you.
11:08:39 Would anyone else like to speak on the project?
11:08:41 >>KEVIN WHITE: Move to close.
11:08:42 >> Second.
11:08:42 (Motion carried).
11:08:43 >>SHAWN HARRISON: give this one to Mrs. Ferlita.
11:08:49 >>ROSE FERLITA: Mr. Smith, you made a good
11:08:52 presentation and incredible thing on the screen.
11:08:54 My question unrelated to, this did you get your car
11:08:57 fixed yesterday?
11:08:58 An ordinance rezoning property in the general vicinity
11:09:00 of 501-507 east Washington street and 102 north Morgan
11:09:06 street in the city of Tampa, Florida from zoning
11:09:09 district CBD-1 central business district parking lot
11:09:12 to CBD-2, central business district mixed use retail
11:09:16 residential, providing an effective date.
11:09:18 >>SHAWN HARRISON: We have a motion and second.
11:09:20 Discussion on the motion?
11:09:22 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Quick comment.
11:09:23 It's a beautiful building.
11:09:24 This is going to be quite a transformation from a
11:09:27 surface parking lot to a stunning tower.

11:09:29 So congratulations.
11:09:31 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Motion and second.
11:09:32 [Motion Carried Unanimously]
11:09:37 Thank you all.
11:09:42 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I would like to request that the
11:09:44 legal department take a look at how the transportation
11:09:48 dollars can be spent to see if we could expand the
11:09:53 definition to include pedestrian improvements and the
11:09:56 Riverwalk.
11:09:57 Because I think both of these transportation
11:10:00 improvements will encourage pedestrian activity which
11:10:07 will lessen the effects on the streets.
11:10:09 And I would like to ask for a report back in 30 days
11:10:12 from legal about the possibility of expanding our
11:10:15 definition to include pedestrian improvements in the
11:10:18 Riverwalk.
11:10:19 >> Second.
11:10:20 >> Motion and second.
11:10:21 (Motion carried)
11:10:27 Item 56.
11:10:27 >>HEATHER LAMBOY: Land development.
11:10:29 I have been sworn.

11:10:30 This item was recently heard for your consideration at
11:10:33 the end of April.
11:10:34 And it's coming back to address some elevations that
11:10:39 the council has an elevation.
11:10:41 And elevation drawings provided by the petitioner.
11:10:47 There was an objection from stormwater simply because
11:10:50 I had not received comments back from stormwater that
11:10:52 everything was okay.
11:10:53 The stormwater objection goes away.
11:10:55 This involves the property on south O'Brien street.
11:10:59 You will recall the area illustrating south O'Brien
11:11:02 street, MacDill Air Force Base, and Port Tampa city.
11:11:11 And as an example, the existing units on south
11:11:19 O'Brien, much of it has been redeveloped by the
11:11:21 petitioner.
11:11:37 >>> I would defer to the council for review of the
11:11:40 elevation.
11:11:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Is petitioner here?
11:11:51 >>> 7303 north Nebraska Avenue.
11:11:53 And I have been sworn.
11:11:55 The petitioner basically took into advisement what the
11:11:58 council members suggestions were at the last meeting.

11:12:02 But they also talked to the neighborhood association,
11:12:08 and also the existing neighborhood residents, and also
11:12:12 future residents.
11:12:13 And the concern of what those garages need.
11:12:19 I know council members weren't advocating garages.
11:12:21 But speaking with again the civil association and also
11:12:25 existing neighborhood residents all allocating
11:12:30 garages.
11:12:31 So the petitioner revised the site plans to include
11:12:34 garages.
11:12:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Who did you speak to in the
11:12:39 association?
11:12:41 >>> Jean -- Jill Buford.
11:12:43 And I attended several of their meetings.
11:12:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Okay.
11:12:52 I guess you have to be careful what you ask for.
11:12:55 The original drawing -- do you have any of those
11:12:58 drawings?
11:12:59 >>> Yes, I do.
11:13:00 >> Would you put up the original drawings?
11:13:12 The original drawing you showed as relatively nice in
11:13:19 a bungalow style, at least a decent attempt at a

11:13:25 bungalow look.
11:13:26 And the only suggestion I had was to allow, since it's
11:13:32 a PD, to allow you to continue to T rev out to the
11:13:36 side and put a portico share out there, a fancy
11:13:39 carport.
11:13:41 >>> Right.
11:13:41 >> Now, if you could put up your four proposed
11:13:44 ideas -- okay, that's number 1.
11:14:20 Okay, that's not as bad.
11:14:26 The third one is a garage with a front door.
11:14:28 And then the fourth one is a garage with a front door.
11:14:33 >> We are also doing the same one here.
11:14:37 >>> I don't have the elevation on that one.
11:14:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Heather, you had a picture that
11:14:43 showed a house up the street.
11:14:47 >>HEATHER LAMBOY: The bungalow.
11:14:54 >> But it showed a single car garage like set lower, I
11:14:57 guess.
11:15:10 >> Is from any reason you couldn't do the portico
11:15:13 share idea?
11:15:13 It's done all over town.
11:15:15 >>> Like I said, speaking with the petitioner, and

11:15:17 speaking with the existing neighborhood residents,
11:15:20 when you get to a certain price point, and in this
11:15:24 particular area where the demand is high, people
11:15:27 expect certain things.
11:15:29 And one of those things are a garage.
11:15:30 >> Did you all build this house that's on the screen?
11:15:35 >>> No, we did not.
11:15:37 >> I mean something like this I think is a reasonable
11:15:39 compromise.
11:15:39 You get a single garage, a nice drive way, get a good
11:15:43 look and you don't have a house that's overwhelmed
11:15:45 with a garage.
11:15:45 >>MARY ALVAREZ: And you get a porch.
11:15:50 A.
11:15:51 >>> I see what you're saying.
11:15:53 More of a porch?
11:15:55 >>MARY ALVAREZ: More porch.
11:15:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I think us what -- think because
11:16:00 the garage is set lower it doesn't overwhelm the house
11:16:02 as much.
11:16:04 It's frankly knowing the elevations in that area.
11:16:10 This house is up the street.

11:16:11 So they have the same elevation issues that you have
11:16:14 got.
11:16:26 >>> Isn't that similar to this, that house that you're
11:16:28 speaking of?
11:16:29 >>MARY ALVAREZ: except it doesn't have a porch.
11:16:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Can you show us at the same time,
11:16:36 or side by side, or up and down?
11:16:39 Maybe not.
11:16:40 >>> No, I can't.
11:16:42 It would be more or less the same.
11:16:51 Even though it's raised, it's about 11 feet up.
11:16:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I guess that's the best in, my
11:16:59 opinion.
11:16:59 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Any other questions?
11:17:01 Mrs. Saul-Sena?
11:17:02 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: This is a question for staff.
11:17:06 Are we, because this request is for a PD, do we have
11:17:12 the ability to direct the petitioner toward a
11:17:17 particular style?
11:17:18 >>HEATHER LAMBOY: Land development.
11:17:20 Even though it's silent on particular styles, it does
11:17:24 say in the PD standards that it must be compatible

11:17:27 with the neighborhood, and so in that sense there is
11:17:31 rationale in the code for council to do that.
11:17:34 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you.
11:17:35 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Ms. Lamboy, this street, how high --
11:17:44 well, let me ask you this way.
11:17:46 Are these streets, do they flood?
11:17:49 >>HEATHER LAMBOY: Yes.
11:17:50 There is a definite problem.
11:17:51 And that is why you see this type of construction.
11:17:56 >> So if you do these houses slab on grade, is that
11:17:59 how you say it, slab on grade?
11:18:01 Wouldn't they be prone to flooding?
11:18:03 >>> Yes, that is correct.
11:18:05 They will have to be elevated, at least 18 inches
11:18:08 above grade, if not higher, to address the flooding
11:18:10 concern.
11:18:11 And the elevation that Mr. Valars provided is slightly
11:18:19 inaccurate.
11:18:20 So that looks like it's more than 18 inches, right?
11:18:23 It's like a 24-inch?
11:18:25 >>> That is correct.
11:18:25 It's based opt on the actual elevation of the house.

11:18:33 >> Well, the pictures that he showed doesn't look like
11:18:37 they are elevated.
11:18:38 >>> No. The diagrams I showed you on the elevations
11:18:40 are not but on the site plans they do show the
11:18:42 elevations.
11:18:46 >>MARY ALVAREZ: They do?
11:18:47 I'll have to look at that.
11:18:49 >>SHAWN HARRISON: I think part of the problem you're
11:18:51 hearing is that these are not very helpful to us.
11:18:54 And in fact probably cause more concern than they do
11:18:57 anything else.
11:18:58 Because there is no detail.
11:19:02 And if you were to come back with something that did
11:19:04 show a little bit better idea with more detail --
11:19:10 >>> Elevations?
11:19:11 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Yes.
11:19:12 Of what it is you are proposing to build I think the
11:19:14 comfort level would be a lot greater amongst the South
11:19:16 Tampa representatives.
11:19:19 Particularly the one in whose district this is.
11:19:24 So just a suggestion. Anyway, let's continue.
11:19:29 Mrs. Saul-Sena.

11:19:29 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Another staff question.
11:19:31 I'm looking at their site plans and there are a lot of
11:19:34 what appeared at the palm trees that are being
11:19:38 installed by the petitioner.
11:19:40 And it's my understanding that you are working towards
11:19:44 meeting our minimum requirement in terms of trees,
11:19:47 that palms don't cut it, that it has to be a shade
11:19:50 tree.
11:19:51 Is that correct?
11:19:52 >>HEATHER LAMBOY: Council member Saul-Sena, that is
11:19:54 correct.
11:19:55 The construction services division will have a review
11:19:58 of the landscape.
11:19:59 Again, I believe comments are that shade trees will
11:20:04 have to be installed.
11:20:06 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I'm just concerned about let's say
11:20:08 council today, without discussing it, approved this
11:20:10 site plan, where it talks about all these palms, and
11:20:13 according to our rules don't really count, and don't
11:20:15 have the kind of trees that do count, isn't it silly
11:20:20 of us to approve something that's patently not within
11:20:22 our boundaries?

11:20:24 I think we have to indicate we approve what's on it,
11:20:28 and therefore it's incorrect.
11:20:30 And, I mean, it's not what we want.
11:20:36 We want standards that reflect what we all think the
11:20:39 petitioner is supposed to do.
11:20:40 Because don't we need to continue this so the
11:20:43 petitioner can go back and make some specific
11:20:47 corrections on their site plan to indicate shade
11:20:49 trees, that indicate elevations of houses that are not
11:20:54 on grade, and indicate perhaps the models that council
11:21:00 is wishing to build that would be compatible with the
11:21:03 existing neighborhood?
11:21:04 >>HEATHER LAMBOY: If I may respond to that. The palm
11:21:06 trees illustrated on the site plan are existing palm
11:21:09 trees.
11:21:09 The tree table that you see that's listed above the
11:21:13 palm trees illustrate the types of trees that are
11:21:15 going to have to be planted, oak trees, which are
11:21:19 shade trees.
11:21:20 So that has been addressed, in addition to all the
11:21:24 other requirements that will have to be met at
11:21:27 building permit regarding open space and so on.

11:21:29 And with reference to accepting -- there is a
11:21:34 potential possibility here, if we want to resolve this
11:21:37 today, I can attach the photograph that Mr. Dingfelder
11:21:42 referred to, to the site plan, as the construction
11:21:44 which they have -- the elevation, essentially, in
11:21:47 which they have to comply with.
11:21:49 And the bungalow with the conditions stated below that
11:21:54 they must meet the elevation as required in Port
11:21:58 Tampa.
11:21:59 If that's something that we want to consider, that's
11:22:02 an option.
11:22:03 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you.
11:22:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Final question.
11:22:09 Just so we are all clear.
11:22:12 And put this elevation on the screen.
11:22:17 What the site plan is showing is it's showing out of
11:22:21 these five homes, it's showing four of them with
11:22:23 double garages.
11:22:50 I think what Mrs. Saul-Sena was saying and I can
11:22:52 agree, I can agree with the single-car garage and that
11:22:55 would require revision in the site plan, site plan
11:22:58 showing double car garages.

11:22:59 I don't think double car garages that take over the
11:23:02 entire side of an otherwise bungalo-ish house is
11:23:08 consistent and compatible with the neighborhood for
11:23:10 this PD.
11:23:11 So if we go with the single-car garages on this one
11:23:14 and we write on there right this second that this
11:23:17 would be approved with this PD, just that one site
11:23:23 plan, then you can flip it left or right, then I can
11:23:31 live with that and I can vote today.
11:23:34 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Petitioner, are you all right with
11:23:36 that?
11:23:37 >>> Yes, I am.
11:23:37 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Any questions of the petitioner?
11:23:39 Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak
11:23:41 on this item?
11:23:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: One other question, I'm sorry.
11:23:46 How deep is the porch?
11:23:47 >>> I believe it's five or six.
11:23:49 >> Can you go with a minimum of six?
11:23:52 >>> Yes.
11:23:54 >> Motion to close.
11:23:56 >> So moved.

11:23:56 >> Second.
11:23:56 (Motion carried).
11:23:57 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Move an ordinance rezoning property in
11:24:05 the general vicinity of 7706, 7708, 7707, 7709, 7711
11:24:13 south O'Brien street in the city of Tampa, Florida and
11:24:15 more particularly described in section 1 from zoning
11:24:18 district classifications IG industrial general to PD
11:24:21 single family, providing an effective date.
11:24:25 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Motion and second.
11:24:27 Discussion on the motion?
11:24:29 (Motion Carried)
11:24:32 Thank you.
11:24:34 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Item number 57.
11:24:35 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Move to open.
11:24:37 >> Second.
11:24:37 (Motion carried).
11:24:38 >>JAMES COOK: Land Development Coordination.
11:24:52 I have been sworn.
11:24:53 Petitioner is requesting to vacate the west ten feet
11:24:56 of Church street on a line between Dale Mabry and
11:24:56 Grady Avenue and Paxton to Pearl Avenue. Petitioner's
11:24:56 property is shaded in red.

11:25:11 If this looks familiar, two years ago council approved
11:25:14 this portion of Church between Pearl and Rogers.
11:25:22 This shot of church Avenue looking north from Pearl.
11:25:25 Petitioner's property on the left side of the
11:25:27 photograph.
11:25:35 This is on the right-hand side of the photograph.
11:25:40 This is church Avenue continuing south across Pearl.
11:25:43 This is a segment that was vacated two years ago.
11:25:47 On the right-hand side of the photograph.
11:25:51 This is church Avenue north across Paxton.
11:25:55 This is actually on the 20-foot drainage easement.
11:26:04 This is a shot of petitioner's property on the west
11:26:07 lying south of Paxton.
11:26:10 And this is a shot of petitioner's property on the
11:26:13 west line north of Pearl.
11:26:14 Staff has no objections as long as the drainage and
11:26:17 utilities easements are preserved.
11:26:18 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I think looking at the aerial.
11:26:28 >> This is the location of Home Depot, south Dale
11:26:32 Mabry.
11:26:34 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Is there anyone in the public that
11:26:37 would like to speak on item number 57?

11:26:39 >>KEVIN WHITE: Move to close.
11:26:42 >> Second.
11:26:42 (Motion carried).
11:26:43 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Do we have a hearing or do we need
11:26:50 to send this to legal?
11:26:51 Mr. Santiago?
11:26:52 >>ROSE FERLITA: Move to send to legal for preparation.
11:26:55 >>ROLANDO SANTIAGO: If you can make a motion that the
11:26:57 city attorney's office make prepare the ordinance.
11:27:00 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Mrs. Ferlita just did that.
11:27:02 (Motion carried).
11:27:03 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Move to open up number 58.
11:27:08 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Move to open 58 and second.
11:27:12 (Motion carried).
11:27:13 Item 58 is now open.
11:27:26 >>ROLANDO SANTIAGO: To establishment the easton park
11:27:31 development district.
11:27:32 Petitioner is here to make a presentation on their
11:27:33 request.
11:27:34 You received -- should have received an ordinance.
11:27:37 Sandy, do you have an ordinance?
11:27:40 I'm here to answer any questions regarding the process

11:27:44 and Ms. James is here to talk to you about the CBD.
11:27:50 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Petitioner?
11:27:51 >>> Judy James, 225 south Boulevard, I was sworn.
11:27:55 This is a petition to establish the eastern park CDD,
11:27:58 343 acres off of Morris Bridge Road, part of the
11:28:02 original K-bar ranch.
11:28:03 It's very similar to the K-bar ranch CBD established
11:28:07 by the City Council last fall.
11:28:10 It's for 600 lots.
11:28:12 It will be public street, mixture of lot sizes, 50s,
11:28:18 60s, 70s. We do have a list of the infrastructure
11:28:21 improvements attached to the resolution as exhibit
11:28:24 F-2, and how it will be structurally paid for and who
11:28:29 will be maintaining it and the CBD will be responsible
11:28:31 for most of the infrastructure.
11:28:33 I will be happy to answer any questions.
11:28:36 I have Tim here with me, Bill MUSETTA, and Mike
11:28:42 Holmes.
11:28:42 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Questions?
11:28:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Ms. James, will you put exhibit F
11:28:49 on the screen?
11:28:50 I was looking at this yesterday.

11:28:55 That's the one.
11:28:56 Slide it up a little, if you can.
11:29:01 There you go.
11:29:04 Am I the only one that can't read that?
11:29:07 My eyes are going, I guess.
11:29:15 My question, there are a couple of questions.
11:29:17 One question, Mr. Harrison, since this is his neck of
11:29:22 the woods.
11:29:24 Shawn, you are consistently advocating for parks up
11:29:28 with your way and that sort of thing.
11:29:30 And I'm just wondering, and Ms. James, you can chamber
11:29:38 in, or anybody else who is knowledgeable on this
11:29:40 issue, isn't there an opportunity for the CBD to
11:29:43 contribute to the local or regional parks?
11:29:48 Out of these equations?
11:29:49 I don't necessarily see it.
11:29:51 It says recreational facilities, zero for the village,
11:29:54 and 200,000 for the master.
11:29:57 I have a feeling those are probably some small
11:29:59 internal little pocket parks or something like that.
11:30:06 I'm just wondering.
11:30:07 It looks like there's a $20 million total here.

11:30:10 And there might be a nice opportunity for these new
11:30:13 residents to contribute toward the regional efforts.
11:30:18 >> I think at this point in time you are talking more
11:30:20 of a zoning type issue rather than a CBD. The CBD
11:30:24 is -- the purpose is to fund the infra structure for
11:30:28 the subdivision and for the maintenance of it but it's
11:30:31 not for an allocation to off-site parks and
11:30:34 recreation.
11:30:35 >>: Not necessarily tree in your own documents.
11:30:40 Your own documents that I read last nature indicate
11:30:43 that the infrastructure can be internal or external to
11:30:45 the project as long as there's a nexus between them.
11:30:50 And I think that's probably pursuant to state statute.
11:30:53 So I don't know.
11:30:58 I'm relatively new to this whole New Tampa issue, and
11:31:02 all these types of related issues.
11:31:04 But are these new 3, 400 homes going to be
11:31:10 contributing, you know, to the regional park efforts?
11:31:16 >>> Let me just say for the record this is also part
11:31:18 of the K-bar ranch zoning that came through this
11:31:20 council.
11:31:20 There's a major corridor going through the area, and

11:31:24 all sorts of conservation areas, and we are providing
11:31:27 as part of the project and the CBD will be funding it,
11:31:32 the life Wilde life corridor and the amenity trails
11:31:35 along the corridors so we are contributing.
11:31:37 >> You're talking about the four legged critters but
11:31:39 I'm talking about the little two legged critters.
11:31:42 >>> Part of that corridor, there will be a recreation
11:31:45 area associated with the corridor that's accessible.
11:31:49 >>SHAWN HARRISON: What he's talking about are our
11:31:51 parks.
11:31:53 The K-bar development agreement requires them to
11:31:57 donate X number of acres for a park.
11:32:00 In addition to that, we have the option of buying
11:32:02 additional acreage for a park.
11:32:05 We, the administration, in negotiation was the K-bar
11:32:09 developers now, to get that done.
11:32:12 And I think I feel pretty confident that we will do
11:32:16 that. The great thing about a CBD is that they will
11:32:20 have the option.
11:32:21 This Board of Directors of the CBD will have the
11:32:25 ability in the future, if they decide that they need
11:32:27 additional park space up there, to purchase it, to

11:32:30 maintain it, to do the things like that.
11:32:33 Once they get on the ground, and they determine that
11:32:35 there is that need, then they can do that once they
11:32:40 are there.
11:32:40 I would say that it would not be standard for us to
11:32:44 try to get some sort of contribution up front from the
11:32:48 CBD that doesn't yet exist.
11:32:49 Especially when we are already negotiating with these
11:32:53 folks to give souse additional land and do some things
11:32:55 out there.
11:32:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: So the development order doesn't
11:32:59 speak to the contribution -- to a contribution
11:33:01 external to the project for this type of park and
11:33:05 recreation?
11:33:07 >>SHAWN HARRISON: In a.
11:33:08 And in fact full recall a couple years ago I pushed
11:33:10 the idea of a parks and recreation fee and this is
11:33:14 exactly what we could be doing if we do have that
11:33:17 impact fee, but we don't.
11:33:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: That's part of the problem, the
11:33:20 administration didn't want to support a park impact
11:33:22 fee so we don't have that.

11:33:24 And then when don't have it being contributed -- I
11:33:28 through way think would be a reasonable structure
11:33:33 through the CBD.
11:33:34 I think it's a missed opportunity.
11:33:36 The other question I have for you, Ms. James, the
11:33:39 contingency, professional services and fees and
11:33:42 contingency add up to, oh, $3.5 million for these
11:33:49 future residents who aren't here voting on this.
11:33:52 So we have to look out for them.
11:33:54 So it's 3.5 million out of 20 million.
11:33:57 What is that consisting?
11:33:59 >>> The professional fees are the engineering fees,
11:34:03 the fees with the city, and SWFWMD, those are the
11:34:08 issues, the professional fees that are involved. The
11:34:10 contingency fee is a construction contingency fee,
11:34:12 basically about -- if my numbers are correct,
11:34:16 contingency on construction.
11:34:20 >>: So professional services and fees is almost $2
11:34:22 million.
11:34:25 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Thank you.
11:34:29 Any other questions?
11:34:30 Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak

11:34:32 on item number 58?
11:34:34 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Move to close.
11:34:36 >> Second.
11:34:36 (Motion carried).
11:34:37 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Mr. Dingfelder, if you're not
11:34:47 comfortable reading that I will send it back.
11:34:49 Mr. White.
11:34:50 >>KEVIN WHITE: Move an ordinance of the city of Tampa,
11:34:52 Florida establishing the easton park community
11:34:56 development district for the purpose of managing and
11:34:58 delivering basic community infra structure
11:35:01 improvements within a parcel of land generally located
11:35:03 off Morris Bridge Road approximately one mail south of
11:35:06 the Pasco and Hillsborough County line comprising
11:35:10 343.71 acres more or less entirely within the
11:35:14 boundaries of the City of Tampa, Hillsborough County
11:35:16 Florida the same being more particularly described in
11:35:19 section 2 hereof pursuant to chapter 190, Florida
11:35:22 statutes, providing for severability, providing an
11:35:23 effective date.
11:35:23 >>SHAWN HARRISON: We have a motion and a second.
11:35:26 Any discussion on the motion?

11:35:27 Mr. Dingfelder?
11:35:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'm not going to support the
11:35:30 motion.
11:35:31 For the reasons that I already stated.
11:35:33 I think that it's a missed opportunity here.
11:35:37 I think if we are not going to have a park and
11:35:39 recreation impact fee, then I think that we -- that
11:35:46 these new projects that are creating stress,
11:35:47 additional stress, with what few projects we have up
11:35:53 there, should pay their fair share and should pay
11:35:55 their way.
11:35:56 And I think that frankly the 3 or 400 families that
11:36:01 would be moving here some day would probably
11:36:02 appreciate it as they add their little two legged
11:36:06 critters to their family.
11:36:07 So I won't support it.
11:36:11 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Let me just say is what we are doing
11:36:13 here is creating a community development district.
11:36:14 We are not adding additional homes or land to the
11:36:18 city.
11:36:19 So in actuality, the board of supervisors of this CBD
11:36:24 will have the ability to say, we need at park out

11:36:26 here, let's build it ourselves, and the vehicle for
11:36:30 them to do that is through the assessments that they
11:36:33 can impose.
11:36:34 So the CDB process has worked well in New Tampa and I
11:36:38 would encourage my colleagues to support it.
11:36:41 >> We have a motion and second.
11:36:42 All in favor signify by saying Aye.
11:36:45 Opposed?
11:36:46 Motion carries.
11:36:47 Thank you very much.
11:36:50 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Move to open 59.
11:36:52 >> Motion and second to open 59.
11:36:54 (Motion carried).
11:36:58 >>> I'm with the City of Tampa land development.
11:37:01 I have an accent.
11:37:02 I'm sorry.
11:37:05 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Go slow, please.
11:37:06 >>> Okay.
11:37:06 I'm here to present the case WZ 06-55 for the wet
11:37:11 zoning extension of the wet zoning at the location of
11:37:17 2307 South Dale Mabry Highway.
11:37:19 The position is a one-year extension with zoning which

11:37:23 was number 2000-7.
11:37:35 The alcoholic beverage wet zoning expires in February
11:37:41 of this year.
11:37:41 The city code ordinance, section 390, allows City
11:37:48 Council, with City Council objection.
11:37:59 Extension, the land development, don't have an
11:38:03 objection to the application of the department, but
11:38:09 I'll answer any questions that you have on it.
11:38:11 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Mr. Dingfelder?
11:38:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I see the application speaks to the
11:38:20 Bamba flute which is a nice little restaurant within
11:38:24 that strip center.
11:38:25 And I don't have any problem with that.
11:38:26 But the map that's on the back of the package shows
11:38:30 the entire strip center.
11:38:32 So what are we wet zoning?
11:38:34 Are we just wet zoning the restaurant portion?
11:38:38 >>> Just the portion of it.
11:38:39 >> Okay.
11:38:41 So this aerial is perhaps overencompassing?
11:38:46 >>> Yes.
11:38:47 >>: So all we are doing is just the couple hundred

11:38:49 square feet of that particular little restaurant.
11:39:01 >>: Officer Norris, City of Tampa police department, I
11:39:04 have been sworn.
11:39:05 TPD has no objection to this.
11:39:08 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Thank you.
11:39:09 Petitioner.
11:39:14 >>: Tom Maxie, Inglehart hammer.
11:39:21 I have been sworn.
11:39:23 They suffered a fair about a year and a half ago.
11:39:27 And just recently received their certificate of
11:39:33 occupancy for the shell of the building, the bamboo
11:39:36 flute has also decided to relocate somewhere else.
11:39:40 The applicant, the owner of the property has secured
11:39:42 another tenant, an Italian restaurant.
11:39:46 And they are actually just finishing up their plans
11:39:49 and submitting for their finish out of the building,
11:39:52 or finish out of their space.
11:39:54 And wish to reopen the center.
11:39:58 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: My concerns are that plant high
11:40:01 school is right across the street.
11:40:03 And I just wondered what the hours would be, and how

11:40:11 they are going to safeguard against noontime plant.
11:40:18 >>> Well, again, when the boom boo flat was there, I
11:40:22 believe they were open for lunch during lunch time
11:40:27 hours.
11:40:29 >> Do you have hours for this?
11:40:31 >> I will have to talk with him.
11:40:37 Lunch and dinner.
11:40:40 Hours of operation.
11:40:41 Probably 11 a.m. to 11 p.m.
11:40:47 >>REBECCA KERT: Legal department.
11:40:50 I wanted to clarify this is not a new approval.
11:40:52 This is authorizing extension of time for them to
11:40:56 remain dry.
11:40:57 So it would be granting up to an additional year for
11:40:59 them to again be using the wet zoning.
11:41:03 So it's not an opportunity to add additional
11:41:05 conditions that are not already in the original wet
11:41:08 zoning.
11:41:09 Thank you.
11:41:09 >>ROSE FERLITA: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
11:41:11 Obviously this is based on restaurant sales, food
11:41:14 sales, because it's a 2(COP-R).

11:41:16 The reason you are asking is to give the owner ample
11:41:19 opportunity.
11:41:20 And that location was already wet zoned.
11:41:22 So offering you an extension.
11:41:24 I have no problem with that.
11:41:25 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Is there anyone in the public who
11:41:27 would like to speak on this item?
11:41:29 Motion to close and second.
11:41:30 (Motion carried)
11:41:33 Do we have an ordinance?
11:41:35 >>THE CLERK: I have not received a reso.
11:41:39 >>ROSE FERLITA: Ask legal to prepare.
11:41:48 >>ROSE FERLITA: Move a resolution for the
11:42:07 discontinuance of sale of alcoholic beverages at or
11:42:11 from that lot plot or tract of land at 2307 south Dale
11:42:14 Mabry highway, Tampa, Florida as more particularly
11:42:16 described in section 2 hereof providing an effective
11:42:18 date.
11:42:23 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I wanted staff to make sure what we
11:42:25 are talking about is just this particular piece of the
11:42:28 entire building.
11:42:31 I also wanted to share with council members that he

11:42:33 received a letter from Frank Melon, the spokesperson
11:42:38 for the Palma Ceia West Association, and they are not
11:42:42 enthused about this.
11:42:44 >>SHAWN HARRISON: All right.
11:42:46 We have a motion and second.
11:42:47 All in favor signify by saying Aye.
11:42:49 Opposed?
11:42:50 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Nay.
11:42:50 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Saul-Sena, no.
11:42:53 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Move to open number 60.
11:42:56 >> Second.
11:42:56 (Motion carried).
11:42:56 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Number 60 is open.
11:43:03 >>> Land development.
11:43:04 I have been another, WZ 06-57.
11:43:08 Petitioner is requesting 2(COP-R) in conjunction with
11:43:12 a restaurant, relocation at 19010 Bruce B. Downs,
11:43:19 Pizza Hut of America incorporated.
11:43:21 You can see there is property within 1,000 feet.
11:43:25 There are actually six of them.
11:43:27 Section 370-A-6, for City Council to waive the
11:43:37 distance separation between the wet zoning

11:43:38 establishment.
11:43:42 And also a residential property within the 1,000 feet,
11:43:51 also section 378-A-6 makes the provision for the City
11:43:55 Council for the wet zone establishment and the
11:44:00 residential property.
11:44:02 There are no institutional uses within 1,000 feet. So
11:44:07 there are no objections from land development office.
11:44:09 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Thank you.
11:44:17 TPD.
11:44:24 >>> Police department: We have no objections.
11:44:27 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Thank you.
11:44:28 Petitioner?
11:44:33 >>> I'm Colleen Fitzgerald with the gray Robinson law
11:44:36 firm, 201 North Franklin Street.
11:44:38 We represent Pizza Hut of America.
11:44:44 I will show you the drawing here.
11:44:49 Pizza Hut has a long standing restaurant located at
11:44:56 19010 Bruce B. Downs Boulevard.
11:44:59 We are here today on a petition for that restaurant
11:45:01 for a 2(COP-R) zoning classification so Pizza Hut can
11:45:06 serve beer and wine on premises only.
11:45:09 There's no objections to this zoning from the staff

11:45:11 report or the police report or any individuals.
11:45:14 There's no institutional uses within a thousand feet
11:45:16 of the restaurant.
11:45:18 There are other establishments within this
11:45:21 self-contained shopping center that you can see here
11:45:23 that already have this wet zoning classification
11:45:26 including a Publix, an Italian restaurant, a Chinese
11:45:30 restaurant, and a package sale, package liquor sale
11:45:34 store. The sale of beer and wine on Pizza Hut
11:45:37 premises would be incidental to the restaurant,
11:45:40 there's no carryout, it's not going to be a package
11:45:44 situation.
11:45:44 And we ask the council approve the petition as
11:45:48 submitted and as requested.
11:45:49 If you have any questions I would be glad to answer
11:45:52 them for you.
11:45:53 >> What would Pizza Hut be without a 2(COP) beer and
11:45:58 wine?
11:46:00 >> Pizza without beer.
11:46:01 >>MARY ALVAREZ: A Pizza Hut without crust.
11:46:07 (Laughter).
11:46:07 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Is there anyone in the public that

11:46:09 would like to speak on this item?
11:46:12 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Move to close.
11:46:13 >> Second.
11:46:13 >>SHAWN HARRISON: All in favor of closure signify by
11:46:16 saying Aye.
11:46:16 (Motion carried).
11:46:19 >>> And may I have the documents received and filed?
11:46:22 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Sure.
11:46:25 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Move an ordinance allowing the sale of
11:46:28 beverages containing alcohol more than 1% by weight
11:46:30 not more than 14% weight beer and wine 2(COP-R) for
11:46:36 couples in premises only in connection with a
11:46:38 restaurant business establishment at or from that
11:46:40 certain lot, plot or tract of land located at 19010
11:46:45 Bruce B. Downs Boulevard, Tampa, Florida as more
11:46:49 particularly described in section 2 hereof waiving
11:46:51 certain restrictions as to distance based upon certain
11:46:53 findings, providing for repeal of all ordinances in
11:46:56 conflict, providing an effective date.
11:46:58 >>SHAWN HARRISON: We have a motion and second.
11:46:59 Discussion on the motion?
11:47:02 [Motion Carried Unanimously]

11:47:04 Thank you.
11:47:04 >>MARY ALVAREZ: We're done.
11:47:06 >>SHAWN HARRISON: All right.
11:47:08 >> Move to receive and fail all documents.
11:47:11 >> Second.
11:47:11 (Motion carried).
11:47:12 >>SHAWN HARRISON: New business or information reports
11:47:14 from council members?
11:47:16 I'll start with you, Mr. White.
11:47:17 >>KEVIN WHITE: Nothing, Mr. Chairman.
11:47:19 >>ROSE FERLITA: Mr. Harrison, very quickly for those
11:47:22 view hoarse want to know a little about the
11:47:25 information for the services for officer O'Brien.
11:47:28 Nine to ten a.m. tomorrow morning there will be a
11:47:30 private viewing, for family members so no one can
11:47:33 attend that.
11:47:33 From ten to noon, there will be a public viewing.
11:47:36 And then promptly at unanimous there will be funeral
11:47:38 services.
11:47:39 At one p.m. the police honor ceremony will follow that
11:47:42 funeral service.
11:47:43 It would be held at Blanton Curry funeral home, 605

11:47:48 South MacDill Avenue.
11:47:50 We should put that out for they're for our listeners.
11:47:53 Again sympathy and prayers to his mom Bonnie and the
11:48:01 family.
11:48:02 And I think a couple of weeks ago I was asked or
11:48:05 offered to meet with Wayne Boynton, who is the auditor
11:48:08 that looked at the false alarm process.
11:48:13 And if you remember, colleagues, those of us who have
11:48:15 been here a little longer we looked at that and the
11:48:18 off-duty stuff at length.
11:48:20 And from what Wayne showed me, I was satisfied and
11:48:23 don't have a great deal to report except the fact that
11:48:25 the amount of collected funds has increased probably
11:48:27 due to the fact that we are using a collection agency.
11:48:31 The hardship that we have had in terms of not being
11:48:35 able to curtail the false alarms is because I guess
11:48:38 from a legal standpoint Wayne did some research, and
11:48:41 he could not find any community or municipality that
11:48:44 was cutting services off when we had false alarms.
11:48:48 Mr. Shelby, I think you and I talked about that when
11:48:52 you first came on board.
11:48:53 I think we have the opportunity to do that.

11:48:55 But then again in F something happens that we don't
11:48:59 respond to somebody who had ten or twelve false alarms
11:49:02 and there's something that really has happened, then I
11:49:04 would suspect the city would put themselves in a
11:49:06 jeopardized state.
11:49:07 So that's not an option that they want to exercise.
11:49:10 So collection agency is improved, the amount of
11:49:14 dollars from false alarms, didn't want to weigh in on
11:49:17 that option.
11:49:17 And the third thing he recommended was TPD will make
11:49:21 an effort to offer our community at different
11:49:24 locations to be announced an educational process.
11:49:27 So that people can understand if they have a system
11:49:29 that's faulty, they need to improve from the
11:49:32 standpoint of false alarms mission to the fact that if
11:49:36 it is not in good shape, it may not trigger an alarm
11:49:39 and maybe there will be a burglary and there will be
11:49:42 more opportunity to apprehend the burglar.
11:49:45 As well sometimes people set up these alarms
11:49:48 themselves, and a lot of the viewing public does not
11:49:51 understand that they are supposed to register their
11:49:54 systems.

11:49:55 Most of the big companies, I understand, will do that
11:49:58 for you, so that there is a call in to TPD, they will
11:50:01 know who to call, what system to contact, et cetera,
11:50:03 et cetera.
11:50:04 So I think maybe an educational process, if our
11:50:08 community responds to that, will be the best way to
11:50:10 curtail some of these false alarms, so that our police
11:50:13 officers, men and women, can be responding to real
11:50:16 calls, instead of false alarm calls.
11:50:18 So I think that will take care of the report that I
11:50:23 was going to submit to you.
11:50:24 Sandy, if you want this as a copy.
11:50:27 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
11:50:28 That's all I have.
11:50:32 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Nothing.
11:50:32 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Briefly, last Thursday, I
11:50:35 believe -- I was able to convince my colleagues for $6
11:50:46 million to redo the roof and air conditioning of the
11:50:49 convention center.
11:50:50 I was very pleased we got enough votes to do that.
11:50:52 Now it's just up to the county commission.
11:50:55 As we pointed out as a board if you look at bed tax

11:50:58 dollars the convention center is the absolute most
11:51:01 logical place for bed tax dollars to go, because it
11:51:04 brings in the tourists.
11:51:08 That was a very successful meeting.
11:51:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A couple of things.
11:51:18 To make up for Mary.
11:51:20 I want to remained anybody that's watching is that the
11:51:23 city is still on water conservation program and I
11:51:26 think it's really important.
11:51:27 Because we have had a little bit of rain, but it
11:51:29 doesn't matter.
11:51:30 The river is not back up to speed.
11:51:31 So we are just watering one day per week.
11:51:34 And if you have any questions on that call the water
11:51:36 department or check on the city's web site and bounce
11:51:41 to the water department and see what the restrictions
11:51:43 are.
11:51:43 Number two, speaking of water conservation, it's my
11:51:48 understanding that there's a device that helps you,
11:51:52 like if you turn on your shower, at least at my house,
11:51:55 I have to wait for a little while to get hot water.
11:51:58 I understand there's a device out there that assists

11:52:01 your plumbing system to somehow eat up -- heat up the
11:52:06 water and get to your shower faster.
11:52:08 >>KEVIN WHITE: A circulation pump.
11:52:12 >> I would like a report from the water department and
11:52:14 the possibility that maybe we could offer some type of
11:52:16 rebate plan like we do with toilets and stuff like
11:52:19 that, you know, to conserve water.
11:52:22 Maybe we can look into this.
11:52:26 So give the water department maybe 60 days to look
11:52:30 into that possibility.
11:52:32 >> Second.
11:52:32 >>KEVIN WHITE: I always wondered how you got hot water
11:52:35 immediately when you were in a hotel on the 38th
11:52:38 floor and the minute you turned on your water.
11:52:41 And that's what they have, a continuous recirculation
11:52:44 pump going throughout the entire property that keeps
11:52:47 hot tap water going through the entire --
11:52:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I feel really guilty when the water
11:52:54 is running but you don't want to get into a cold
11:52:56 shower. Anyway, 60 days.
11:52:58 I make a motion.
11:52:59 >> Second.

11:52:59 (Motion carried).
11:53:01 >>MARY ALVAREZ: By that time we'll be in return season
11:53:05 and everybody will be forgetting about water
11:53:08 conservation again.
11:53:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I mean, they wouldn't be able to do
11:53:12 it real fast, I don't think.
11:53:13 You would have to install in the your home.
11:53:15 We have to have a program.
11:53:17 Another thing that's come to my attention, folks in
11:53:20 the business, and construction community, have
11:53:22 complained that our permitting process and our
11:53:25 inspection process has slowed down.
11:53:27 And I think we probably all heard that a little bit
11:53:29 anecdotally.
11:53:30 So with council's indulgence, I'll go ahead and
11:53:33 organize kind of an informal meeting that would
11:53:36 include the building and development community,
11:53:39 perhaps neighborhood representatives, T.H.A.N., and
11:53:42 also staff, and just to kind of brainstorm a little
11:53:45 bit on this, and see what we can do, and I'll
11:53:48 volunteer to put that together with council's
11:53:50 approval.

11:53:53 >> Motion and second.
11:53:54 (Motion carried).
11:53:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'll get back with you on that.
11:53:58 A commendation.
11:54:00 We are really proud of how different students who have
11:54:04 been appointed by the black history, the City of Tampa
11:54:06 black history committee scholarship, and I'll give the
11:54:10 clerk the names after the meeting just to save time.
11:54:14 Then I would like to go ahead and give a commendation
11:54:16 to all of them at a date in the future.
11:54:21 History scholarships recipients for this year.
11:54:23 >>: Second.
11:54:26 (Motion Carried).
11:54:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Finally, I would like to get a
11:54:29 report.
11:54:29 We all read in the paper this morning, the county
11:54:31 commission approved $4,000 for school impact fee.
11:54:34 I'm not really sure exactly how that relates to the
11:54:36 city.
11:54:38 I would like to get a report back from staff in two
11:54:41 weeks on how that relates to the city, and also if we
11:54:46 have any flexibility on that, what their

11:54:49 recommendation is to the city.
11:54:51 Do we follow suit with our own $4,000?
11:54:55 Is that necessary?
11:54:56 Do we have -- maybe we have a lower school impact fee?
11:54:59 Maybe we have a higher one.
11:55:01 Maybe we don't have one.
11:55:02 Right now, I don't know that we have one.
11:55:07 >>ROSE FERLITA: I don't know.
11:55:08 Especially in the incorporated area.
11:55:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A report back from staff in two
11:55:20 weeks with at least a preliminary recommendation on
11:55:23 what the city should do about that issue.
11:55:25 Because I think it is an important issue to fund
11:55:27 schools no matter where you are talking about.
11:55:31 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Mr. Dingfelder, getting a report
11:55:34 back will be fine but if you are requesting a
11:55:37 recommendation I doubt whether administration will be
11:55:40 able to do that in two weeks.
11:55:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: How about a preliminary
11:55:43 recommendation on where we go?
11:55:46 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Just a report.
11:55:48 We can ask for a written recommendation later.

11:55:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Or they can give a recommendation
11:55:52 at their discretion.
11:55:54 Yale limit it to report.
11:55:55 That's fine.
11:55:55 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Motion and second.
11:55:57 (Motion carried).
11:55:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: That's it.
11:55:59 Thank you.
11:56:00 >>MARY ALVAREZ: And this has been something that's
11:56:02 been on my mind.
11:56:03 Because we are continually approving condo projects,
11:56:07 and we just did one today, tall, and wave so many
11:56:12 going on that it's coming, and I'm really concerned,
11:56:15 we continued talking about water conservation.
11:56:18 And yet we are approving all these projects.
11:56:21 And all we sea on our reports is that it has an X for
11:56:25 water and says it's okay.
11:56:27 I'm really concerned about that.
11:56:29 Because if we are conserving water, and we are down to
11:56:32 one time a week, where is the water coming from for
11:56:35 all these projects we are putting in?
11:56:38 So I would really like to here a report, maybe in

11:56:42 about a month or so, right before we go on vacation,
11:56:45 to give us a report on how they come up with capacity
11:56:50 for all these projects that we are approving.
11:56:55 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Second.
11:56:56 >>MARY ALVAREZ: I'm really concerned about it.
11:56:58 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Addressing the lopping-term needs?
11:57:00 >>MARY ALVAREZ: Yes.
11:57:01 >>SHAWN HARRISON: We have a motion and second.
11:57:02 Do you have an actual date?
11:57:04 >>MARY ALVAREZ: I guess June 22nd would be fine.
11:57:07 Right before we leave for our vacation.
11:57:09 >>SHAWN HARRISON: All in favor signify by saying Aye.
11:57:12 (Motion carried)
11:57:14 And if nothing else, county commission this week
11:57:18 passed the affordable housing task force
11:57:20 recommendations.
11:57:21 They have actually created a new department and funded
11:57:25 that.
11:57:25 And I would like the administration to come in two
11:57:29 weeks and just talk about what our plan is for if we
11:57:35 have any plan yet for trying to address the affordable
11:57:38 housing needs in the City of Tampa, because I would

11:57:41 guess that the vast majority of those needs rate now
11:57:43 are in the city limits and not in the unincorporated
11:57:46 county.
11:57:47 Two weeks just for some thoughts from the
11:57:49 administration.
11:57:51 >>: Second.
11:57:51 (Motion carried).
11:57:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Next week, council, you will be
11:57:56 voting on the enterprise zone development agency board
11:57:58 candidates.
11:58:00 In anticipation of that I am going to just pass out a
11:58:03 sample ballot of wall be receiving next week and also
11:58:05 your previous vote that to refresh your recollection.
11:58:09 You will notice that they are listed in alphabetical
11:58:12 order as opposed to the previous vote tally, which was
11:58:15 listed in vote order.
11:58:21 >>SHAWN HARRISON: Thank you.
11:58:22 Anything else to come before council?
11:58:26 Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak
11:58:29 on any item?
11:58:30 No?
11:58:31 All right.

11:58:34 We stand adjourned.
12:08:43 (City Council meeting adjourned)