April 1, 2007
Tampa City Council
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15:29:25 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: We're ready to begin. Good
15:29:26 afternoon, honorable council members. Congratulations.
15:29:30 Shirley Foxx, city clerk for the City of Tampa. We will now
15:29:35 conduct the election for the chairman and chairman pro tem
15:29:38 for the Tampa City Council. Here are the election
15:29:41 guidelines. The election of a chairman will be held first.
15:29:46 Nominations do not require a second. Please wait to be
15:29:50 recognized before nominating a candidate. I will open the
15:29:54 nominations and close them after all nominations have been
15:29:59 made. Votes will be counted by raising the hand. And
15:30:02 please raise them high. The vote will be taken in the order
15:30:06 of the nomination, beginning with the first name nominated.
15:30:11 The vote will cease as soon as there is a majority, which
15:30:14 requires four votes. Having said that, nominations are now
15:30:18 in order for chairman. Reverend Scott.
15:30:24 >>THOMAS SCOTT: First, I would like to -- it's my pleasure
15:30:27 to nominate --
15:30:31 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Gwen Miller is now nominated. Are
15:30:34 there any other nominations? Mr. Caetano?
15:30:37 >>JOSEPH CAETANO: I'd like to nominate Charlie Miranda.
15:30:41 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Are there any other nominations?
15:30:45 Yes, Miss Saul-Sena?
15:30:50 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I would like to nominate John
15:30:53 Dingfelder, and I'd like to say why. I have served on city
15:30:59 council with John Dingfelder for four years. I don't know
15:31:02 if you all know this, but he's a professional mediator.
15:31:05 This new council has the opportunity to be active and
15:31:08 stronger than any previous council. Twenty years ago, when
15:31:13 I was first serving on council, council pretty much acted as
15:31:20 a rubber stamp for the administration. They provided the
15:31:24 agenda, and Chairman Tom Van raced through it like an
15:31:29 locomotive. It's a new day. We've got bright, energetic
15:31:33 council members who want to create policy, who want to lead
15:31:38 Tampa to be the best kind of city we can be. I think that
15:31:40 to do this we need to work together cooperatively and we
15:31:44 need an active, strong voice to lead council. I've seen
15:31:47 John in action. He is caring of other people's opinions,
15:31:53 and he is a strong, clear voice. And that's why I'm
15:31:59 nominating him today.
15:32:00 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Thank you, Miss Saul-Sena. Are
15:32:01 there any other nominations? Nominations are closed on
15:32:07 Miller, Miranda and Dingfelder. Those in favor of council
15:32:15 woman Miller, please raise your hand high. Those in favor
15:32:27 of Charlie Miranda, please raise your hand high. Those in
15:32:35 favor of John Dingfelder, please raise your hand high. Not
15:32:44 seeing a majority, we will start again. Nominations are
15:32:50 open for chair. Are there any nominations? Mr. Caetano?
15:32:59 >>JOE CAETANO: I'd like to nominate Charlie Miranda.
15:33:03 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Miss Saul-Sena?
15:33:06 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I'd like to nominate John Dingfelder.
15:33:13 >> I'd like to nominate Gwen Miller.
15:33:16 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Reverend Scott?
15:33:18 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Gwen Miller.
15:33:19 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Okay. Those in favor of Charlie
15:33:22 Miranda, please raise your hand. Two. John Dingfelder,
15:33:30 please raise your hand. Three. And Miss Miller, please
15:33:36 raise your hand. Two. Not seeing a majority again, let's
15:33:44 start again. Are there any nominations -- yes? Take two
15:33:57 persons that had the two votes and everybody vote on them
15:33:59 and --
15:34:00 >> No. [Inaudible].
15:34:02 >> And then at that point you take Dingfelder and whoever
15:34:06 that person -- vote on those two. That way you have
15:34:09 eliminated these numbers. Otherwise we could be here all
15:34:12 day. [Inaudible].
15:34:16 >> Yes, ma'am? Miss Saul-Sena?
15:34:19 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Mr. Scott, Reverend Scott, eventually we
15:34:24 end up with somebody having four votes, and having been
15:34:29 through this last time, it only took us seven times to
15:34:32 finally arrive at a selection. I can say that it is a long
15:34:35 process, but council always ends up with a chairman.
15:34:41 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Nominations are open for chair.
15:34:47 Mr. Caetano?
15:34:48 >>JOE CAETANO: Charlie Miranda.
15:34:51 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Are there any other nominations?
15:34:53 Miss Saul-Sena?
15:34:54 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: John Dingfelder.
15:34:58 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Reverend Scott?
15:35:00 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Gwen Miller.
15:35:06 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Those in favor of Charlie Miranda,
15:35:08 please raise your hand. Two. John Dingfelder, please raise
15:35:14 your hand. Three. Miss Miller, please raise your hand.
15:35:20 Two. Not seeing a majority --
15:35:25 >> Maybe reverend Scott --
15:35:37 >> Reverend Scott, would you repeat what you said?
15:35:41 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Yeah. Madam Clerk, my suggestion was we
15:35:45 have two persons nominated with two votes. We should take
15:35:49 those nominations and everybody vote on those persons,
15:35:52 whoever get the most vote, then we come back and nominate
15:35:55 that person with Dingfelder.
15:35:57 >> For a runoff?
15:35:58 >> Yes.
15:36:00 >> Madam chairman, I'd like to hear from David Smith, who's
15:36:04 aware of -- who's our -- or Mr. Shelby, who's our council
15:36:08 attorney. Is this -- what is the appropriate thing in terms
15:36:11 of legality of this? I'm not comfortable with this.
15:36:23 >>DAVID SMITH: Good morning, members of council. This is
15:36:26 your organizational meeting, you can do whatever you want.
15:36:34 >> I think that's the first and only time you guys have ever
15:36:37 told us that.
15:36:40 >> Excuse me. Did he say good morning?
15:36:49 >> The two individual council members receiving two votes
15:36:56 include Charlie Miranda and Gwen Miller.
15:36:58 >> Madam clerk?
15:36:59 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Yes.
15:37:00 >> I would say just as a point of order, we probably
15:37:05 should -- if we're going to change our procedure, we
15:37:08 probably should vote on changing the procedure. Mr. Shelby?
15:37:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Yes, sir.
15:37:17 >> We're going to change our procedure, we probably should
15:37:20 vote on changing the procedure.
15:37:21 >> Council, in all candor, I have not been privy to this
15:37:25 process. This has been the purview of the city clerk. This
15:37:28 has been done by council in the past. Tampa has particular
15:37:31 customs. However, however the city council wishes to
15:37:35 address this issue, I suggest that you just do it in an
15:37:38 orderly, fair fashion. My suggestion, again, would be to
15:37:41 follow the standard rules of procedure, Roberts rules of
15:37:45 procedure, which usually default to, and however you wish to
15:37:48 proceed, it is your organizational meeting.
15:37:52 >> I'll second Reverend Scott's motion, if Reverend Scott
15:37:55 made the motion, to change the procedure as he described.
15:38:01 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: We're voting on two individuals.
15:38:03 Those in favor of Charlie Miranda, please raise your hand.
15:38:08 >> This is for a runoff. We need to vote on --
15:38:12 >> A vote on --
15:38:14 >> On the process.
15:38:15 >> Okay.
15:38:16 >> So Reverend Scott made the motion that we change the
15:38:22 >> And I seconded.
15:38:23 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Okay. All in favor? Okay.
15:38:27 Unanimous. Any opposed? Okay. It's unanimous. Getting
15:38:33 back to the vote of the two individuals that received two
15:38:38 votes. Those in favor of Charlie Miranda, please raise your
15:38:42 hand. Three. Those in favor of Gwen Miller, please raise
15:38:48 your hand. Four. Okay. So it's between Miss Miller and
15:38:58 Mr. Dingfelder. This is for the chairmanship. Those in
15:39:07 favor of John Dingfelder, please raise your hand. Those in
15:39:15 favor of Gwen Miller, please raise your hand.
15:39:21 Congratulations, Miss Miller.
15:39:32 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Miller, would you like to say a few
15:39:37 >>GWEN MILLER: Thank you. First I would like to
15:39:40 congratulate our new members, I haven't had time to do that
15:39:43 and I'd like to welcome back the ones that have already been
15:39:45 serving with me. It's a pleasure to be nominated again.
15:39:48 That means a vote of confidence that the last three years as
15:39:51 chair I did a very good job. We worked very well together.
15:39:54 We worked with the neighborhoods. We had many problems to
15:39:57 solve, and we did them, and we worked together. Everybody
15:40:00 had integrity and professional, and just a hardworking
15:40:04 council, and I know this is going to be a better year
15:40:07 because we have new members who are energetic, ready to work
15:40:11 and I'm ready to work with them. And I know we're going to
15:40:14 have a great time because we have fun on the council. We
15:40:16 don't just be there working hard, we do things that make us
15:40:19 happy, and we have -- like Miss Saul-Sena said, make it
15:40:24 green, we have a green topic, we're going to be smiling and
15:40:27 happy and we're going to solve the problems of Tampa that
15:40:29 make Tampa the best city we ever had. We always say Tampa's
15:40:34 the best place in work and play and that's what we're going
15:40:38 to do for the City of Tampa.
15:40:44 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Thank you, Chairman Miller.
15:40:47 Nominations are now in order for chairman pro tem. Are
15:40:51 there any nominations? Mr. Miranda?
15:40:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I nominate Joe Caetano.
15:41:01 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Mr. Caetano is now nominated. Are
15:41:03 there any other nominations? Miss Saul-Sena?
15:41:06 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I would like to nominate John
15:41:09 Dingfelder. I think we need a chairman pro tem with
15:41:12 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Are there any other --
15:41:14 >>GWEN MILLER: I nominate Charlie Miranda.
15:41:20 >> Excuse me. Charlie Miranda respectfully requests that
15:41:25 his name be withdrawn.
15:41:29 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Are there any other nominations?
15:41:34 We will close on Joseph Caetano and John Dingfelder. Those
15:41:40 in favor of Joseph Caetano, please raise your hand. Three.
15:41:49 John Dingfelder, please raise your hand. Four.
15:42:02 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Mr. Dingfelder. Mr. Chairman pro
15:42:10 tem, would you like to say a few words?
15:42:14 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Thank you, Madam Clerk. It has been a
15:42:17 wonderful honor and privilege to serve you for the past four
15:42:19 years and it will be a wonderful honor and privilege to
15:42:22 serve as chairman pro tem under our fine chair, Glen Miller,
15:42:25 and I look forward to it. Thank you.
15:42:27 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Thank you very much. I would like
15:42:28 to say congratulations, and I look forward to working with
15:42:31 all of you. I would like to turn the meeting over to our
15:42:35 newly-elected chair.
15:42:38 >>GWEN MILLER: Thank you, Madam Chair. The business we
15:42:43 have today is MPO -- okay. Roll call. Thank you.
15:42:48 [ROLL CALL].
15:43:01 >>GWEN MILLER: We have some business to take care of
15:43:04 because MPO has lost some members and they need to have a
15:43:08 special meeting to finalize their chairmanship so we need to
15:43:12 elect someone or appoint someone to be on that committee,
15:43:14 and I would like to make an appointment for Mr. Reverend
15:43:19 Scott. He's been on there and I think he would continue to
15:43:22 do a good job.
15:43:25 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Madam Chairman, I had made a motion on
15:43:27 Thursday that all of the incoming council members receive a
15:43:30 list of all the -- all the organizations and boards that
15:43:34 council members get appointed to, and that at this time,
15:43:37 that be given to us to write down our first, second and
15:43:41 third choices, and that the city -- and that then you as
15:43:46 chairman make the selection. The MPO needs three
15:43:50 appointments by -- by the 9:00 Tuesday morning meeting.
15:43:55 It's critical, but we all were supposed to receive these
15:43:58 sheets. Remember, we discussed that --
15:44:00 >>GWEN MILLER: The clerk did run those sheets off and they
15:44:03 were in your mailbox, so if you had been in the city office,
15:44:06 you could have gotten them at your mailbox. She put them in
15:44:09 the mailbox.
15:44:10 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: No. We were supposed to receive them
15:44:13 >>GWEN MILLER: Miss Saul-Sena, she put them in the mailbox,
15:44:15 and if you did not get to your mailbox, you do not have it.
15:44:19 But we're not worried about the other committee. You will
15:44:21 have your assignments when you get the sheet and fill them
15:44:25 out. Today we're only considering MPO. That's all the
15:44:28 clerks asked us to do today is MPO and that's all we're
15:44:32 going to take care of today is MPO. Okay. Mr. Dingfelder?
15:44:40 >> I just wanted to say as a new council member I did
15:44:45 receive it by E-mail the list of committees and I have it
15:44:48 right here in my purse.
15:44:50 >> So everybody else should have theirs.
15:44:52 >> Mine was E mailed to me.
15:44:53 >> And I don't have a purse.
15:44:59 >>GWEN MILLER: Do your wife have -- got it in her purse,
15:45:03 Mr. Miranda? Okay. So we're going to need three, and I
15:45:14 expressed my concerns for Reverend Scott because he has
15:45:17 served on there for a long time and I know he would continue
15:45:19 to do a good job so I would like to appoint Reverend Scott
15:45:22 on that committee. And Mr. Dingfelder --
15:45:25 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: Okay. I already have the honor of
15:45:27 serving on the MPO as Hart's representative, so you don't
15:45:31 have to worry about me.
15:45:32 >> And I would like, Mr. Caetano, would you like to serve on
15:45:35 that committee? MPO. You'll get your chance.
15:45:40 >>JOE CAETANO: Yes, I would.
15:45:42 >>GWEN MILLER: Thank you. Anyone else?
15:45:45 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Madam Chairman, I've served on the MPO
15:45:48 continuously for 20 years, I'm the longest, not the oldest,
15:45:54 but in terms of continuity and depth of experience, I would
15:45:57 very much appreciate your appointment to being able to
15:45:59 continue to serve on that.
15:46:02 >>GWEN MILLER: Anyone else?
15:46:05 >>MARY MULHERN: I would like to ask for an appointment to
15:46:08 that committee if there is an opening. That's one of my
15:46:10 biggest priorities, and I would love to have the opportunity
15:46:13 to serve on the MPO.
15:46:16 >>GWEN MILLER: Okay. We're going to have -- we have to
15:46:20 appoint two. So the chairman has appointed two, Reverend
15:46:25 Scott and Mr. Caetano. So we need to vote on those two. So
15:46:34 you want me to --
15:46:35 >> You have the right --
15:46:40 >>GWEN MILLER: So it would be Miss Mary -- Reverend Scott
15:46:43 and Mr. Caetano.
15:46:45 >> Thank you.
15:46:49 >>GWEN MILLER: Clerk, is there any other business to come
15:46:52 before council? If there's none, we'll stand adjourned.
(The meeting was adjourned at 3:47 p.m.)