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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
July 30, 2009
9:00 a.m. session

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7/30/09 09:07:11 >>
7/30/09 09:07:14 TAMPA CITY
7/30/09 09:07:17 COUNCIL NOW COMES
7/30/09 09:07:22 TO ORDER.
7/30/09 09:07:25 AT THIS TIME WE'LL
7/30/09 09:07:28 STAND
7/30/09 09:07:30 FOR
7/30/09 09:07:30 THE.
7/30/09 09:07:32 >> LET US PRAY AT THE BEGINNING
7/30/09 09:07:34 OF THIS NEW DAY, HEAR OUR
7/30/09 09:07:34 PRAYERS.
7/30/09 09:07:36 WE PRAY FOR THE NATIONS AND
7/30/09 09:07:39 PEOPLES OF THE EARTH IN
7/30/09 09:07:42 ANYPLACE ARE SUFFERING FROM THE
7/30/09 09:07:43 HORRORS OF WAR.
7/30/09 09:07:45 WE PRAY THAT YOU PROTECT OUR
7/30/09 09:07:45 MILITARY.
7/30/09 09:07:47 HELP THEM BE INSTRUMENTS OF
7/30/09 09:07:48 YOUR HEALING GRACE AND PEACE.
7/30/09 09:07:51 WHEN THEIR DUTIES ARE
7/30/09 09:07:52 COMPLETED, WE PRAY THAT YOU
7/30/09 09:07:55 RETURN THEM SAFELY TO THEIR
7/30/09 09:07:55 FAMILIES.
7/30/09 09:07:57 WE ASK FOR YOUR BLESSINGS TO BE
7/30/09 09:07:59 UPON MANY OF THE ORGANIZATIONS
7/30/09 09:08:02 THAT SERVE THE TAMPA COMMUNITY,
7/30/09 09:08:05 HOSPITALS, SCHOOLS, THE COURTS,
7/30/09 09:08:06 SOCIAL SERVICES, THE POLICE
7/30/09 09:08:08 DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT,
7/30/09 09:08:09 SANITATION DEPARTMENT, ALL
7/30/09 09:08:10 GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS OF
7/30/09 09:08:13 THIS FINE CITY THAT SERVE THEIR
7/30/09 09:08:14 FELLOW CITIZENS.
7/30/09 09:08:17 MAY THEY NOT LACK DEDICATED AND
7/30/09 09:08:20 CAPABLE WORKERS TO PERFORM
7/30/09 09:08:21 THEIR TASKS ADEQUATELY.
7/30/09 09:08:24 FOR ALL PROFESSIONS, TRADES AND
7/30/09 09:08:26 LABORS, WE GIVE YOU THANKS.
7/30/09 09:08:28 YOU TEACH US THAT ALL
7/30/09 09:08:29 GOVERNMENTS ARE ESTABLISHED BY
7/30/09 09:08:29 YOUR HAND.
7/30/09 09:08:30 WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING WE PRAY
7/30/09 09:08:32 THAT YOU WOULD GIVE OUR MAYOR
7/30/09 09:08:34 THE WILL AND GODLY WISDOM TO
7/30/09 09:08:36 USE HER OFFICE FOR THE CARE AND
7/30/09 09:08:38 GOVERNING OF THE CITY ACCORDING
7/30/09 09:08:41 TO YOUR WILL AND
7/30/09 09:08:42 NOT GAIN FOR
7/30/09 09:08:45 PAR TOOK PERSON
7/30/09 09:08:47 OR SELFISH
7/30/09 09:08:47 GROUPS.
7/30/09 09:08:49 INTEGRITY TO GOVERN THE AFFAIRS
7/30/09 09:08:51 OF THE TAMPA CITY UNDER
7/30/09 09:08:51 GUIDANCE.
7/30/09 09:08:53 MAY ALL THE CITIZENS SUPPORT
7/30/09 09:08:56 OUR GOVERNMENT WITH THEIR
7/30/09 09:08:56 PRAYERS.
7/30/09 09:08:58 FINALLY FOR THIS COUNCIL
7/30/09 09:09:00 AASSEMBLED HERE, WE ASK FOR
7/30/09 09:09:03 YOUR GOOD JUDGMENT TO BE UPON
7/30/09 09:09:03 THEM.
7/30/09 09:09:05 MAY THEY CONDUCT THEIR TASKS,
7/30/09 09:09:06 PLACE THE DESIRE IN THEIR
7/30/09 09:09:09 HEARTS THAT THEY ACCOMPLISHED
7/30/09 09:09:11 THEIR TASKS WISELY AS GOOD
7/30/09 09:09:12 STEWARDS OF THE POSITIONS THEY
7/30/09 09:09:13 HAVE BEEN ELECTED.
7/30/09 09:09:16 PROTECT THEM FROM THE SINS
7/30/09 09:09:17 OF
7/30/09 09:09:18 CORRUPTION AND AGREED SO THEY
7/30/09 09:09:21 MAY SERVE THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA
7/30/09 09:09:24 WITH HONOR AND MOST NOBLE
7/30/09 09:09:24 GOALS.
7/30/09 09:09:26 MAY THIS DAY BE COMPLETED IN
7/30/09 09:09:29 YOUR GLORY IN THE NAME
7/30/09 09:09:30 OF
7/30/09 09:09:33 JESUS, AAMEN.
7/30/09 09:09:36 >> I PLEDGE THE ALEDGEANCE
7/30/09 09:09:37 TO
7/30/09 09:09:38 THE FLAG.
7/30/09 09:09:40 FOR WHICH IT STANCE, ONE
7/30/09 09:09:43 NATION, UNDER GOD, FOR LIBERTY
7/30/09 09:09:46 AND
7/30/09 09:09:49 JUSTICE FOR
7/30/09 09:09:50 ALL.
7/30/09 09:09:53 >>
7/30/09 09:09:54 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:09:54 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:09:57 HE IS
7/30/09 09:10:00 HERE RELATIVE
7/30/09 09:10:03 TO
7/30/09 09:10:05 COUNCIL
7/30/09 09:10:05 MAN.
7/30/09 09:10:08 HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR
7/30/09 09:10:08 THE
7/30/09 09:10:09 CLERGY TODAY.
7/30/09 09:10:12 >> ROLL
7/30/09 09:10:12 CALL.
7/30/09 09:10:14 >> CAETANO.
7/30/09 09:10:17 >>
7/30/09 09:10:19 SAUL-SENA.
7/30/09 09:10:22 >> MULHERN,
7/30/09 09:10:25 JOHN DINGFELDER,
7/30/09 09:10:28 SCOTT.
7/30/09 09:10:28 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 09:10:29 WE .
7/30/09 09:10:31 >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN AND
7/30/09 09:10:33 MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
7/30/09 09:10:36 FIRST ITEM, ITEM NUMBER ONE IS
7/30/09 09:10:39 BEING REMOVED FROM
7/30/09 09:10:41 TODAY'S
7/30/09 09:10:41 AGENDA.
7/30/09 09:10:44 ITEM NUMBER 2 IS A --EXCUSE
7/30/09 09:10:44 ME.
7/30/09 09:10:46 ITEM NUMBER 29 IS A MEMORANDUM
7/30/09 09:10:48 RECEIVED BY ROBIN MCKINNEY
7/30/09 09:10:50 ADVISING OF A SUBSTITUTION OF
7/30/09 09:10:53 THE SIGNATURE PAGE OF THAT
7/30/09 09:10:53 AGREEMENT.
7/30/09 09:10:56 ITEM NUMBER 53 IS
7/30/09 09:10:58 A SUBSTITUTE
7/30/09 09:11:01 ORDINANCE BEING REQUESTED
7/30/09 09:11:03 FOR
7/30/09 09:11:05 THE RIGHT-OF-WAY REPLAT OF DO
7/30/09 09:11:05 PARK.
7/30/09 09:11:07 ITEM 55 IS A REQUEST BY GREGORY
7/30/09 09:11:10 REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE ON
7/30/09 09:11:11 THE
7/30/09 09:11:13 ITEMIZATION OF CONTRACT
7/30/09 09:11:13 OUTSOURCING.
7/30/09 09:11:15 THERE HAS BEEN A SUGGESTION,
7/30/09 09:11:17 MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, RATHER THAN
7/30/09 09:11:19 AUGUST 6th, THAT THAT BE
7/30/09 09:11:21 CONTINUED TO AUGUST 20th, IF IF
7/30/09 09:11:24 THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
7/30/09 09:11:27 >>> ITEM NUMBER 61 IS ALSO A
7/30/09 09:11:29 REQUEST BY MR. SPEARMAN TO
7/30/09 09:11:31 CONTINUE THAT DATE BEING
7/30/09 09:11:33 REQUESTED AS AUGUST 20th AS
7/30/09 09:11:33 WELL.
7/30/09 09:11:35 AND FINALLY ITEM NUMBER 62 IS
7/30/09 09:11:37 THE SCHEDULE OF FEES FOR THE
7/30/09 09:11:39 PARKS AND RECREATION
7/30/09 09:11:39 DEPARTMENT.
7/30/09 09:11:41 AND THAT IS SUGGESTED TO BE
7/30/09 09:11:43 HEARD ALONG WITH THE ITEMS THAT
7/30/09 09:11:46 ARE RELATED TO PARKS AND REC,
7/30/09 09:11:48 THE ORDINANCES BEING PRESENTED
7/30/09 09:11:50 FOR FIRST READINGS ITEMS 2, 3,
7/30/09 09:11:52 AND 4. THIS WOULD BE HEARD
7/30/09 09:11:54 AFTER ITEM 4. I DON'T KNOW OF
7/30/09 09:11:55 ANY OTHER CHANGES AND IT'S
7/30/09 09:11:57 SUBMITTED FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
7/30/09 09:12:00 >> I JUST WANTED TO INSURE THAT
7/30/09 09:12:03 THE WEST SHORE PRESENTATION IS
7/30/09 09:12:06 GOING TO COME UP UNDER --
7/30/09 09:12:07 >> IT'S UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
7/30/09 09:12:07 >> PERFECT.
7/30/09 09:12:10 >> WE CAN TAKE APPROPRIATE
7/30/09 09:12:12 ACTION ONCE THAT IS GIVEN.
7/30/09 09:12:15 >> IT'S UNDER STAFF REPORTS AT
7/30/09 09:12:15 10:30.
7/30/09 09:12:18 >> OH, I THOUGHT IT WAS UNDER
7/30/09 09:12:21 PUBLIC COMMENT AT
7/30/09 09:12:22 9:00.
7/30/09 09:12:23 >> NO.
7/30/09 09:12:23 IT'S NOT, NO.
7/30/09 09:12:23 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 09:12:26 >> IF I MAY INQUIRE OF
7/30/09 09:12:27 COUNCIL,
7/30/09 09:12:28 NORMALLY STAFF REPORTS ARE NOT
7/30/09 09:12:31 OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, FOR PUBLIC
7/30/09 09:12:31 COMMENT.
7/30/09 09:12:33 IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.
7/30/09 09:12:35 MY SUGGESTION IF ANYBODY WISHES
7/30/09 09:12:38 TO ADDRESS IT, THE APPROPRIATE
7/30/09 09:12:40 TIME TO DO THAT WOULD BE AT
7/30/09 09:12:41 PUBLIC COMMENT.
7/30/09 09:12:42 >> THEY CAN TALK ABOUT DOING
7/30/09 09:12:43 PUBLIC COMMENT.
7/30/09 09:12:46 >> WITH THE EXCEPTION
7/30/09 09:12:49 OF PUBLIC
7/30/09 09:12:49 HEARINGS.
7/30/09 09:12:49 >> RIGHT.
7/30/09 09:12:51 EXCEPT FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
7/30/09 09:12:51 YOU'RE RIGHT.
7/30/09 09:12:54 >> WOULD YOU LIKE A
7/30/09 09:12:55 MOTION.
7/30/09 09:12:58 >> MOTION TO CHANGE THE AGENDA.
7/30/09 09:13:01 IT WAS MOVED AND
7/30/09 09:13:01 SECONDED.
7/30/09 09:13:04 ALL IN FAVOR
7/30/09 09:13:07 SAY A.
7/30/09 09:13:10 AYE.
7/30/09 09:13:12 >> AYE.
7/30/09 09:13:15 >> THERE'S A COUPLE ITEMS ON
7/30/09 09:13:18 THERE THAT WAS INCLUDED
7/30/09 09:13:19 IN THE
7/30/09 09:13:19 CHANGE.
7/30/09 09:13:19 OKAY.
7/30/09 09:13:22 WE HAVE A LIST OF PEOPLE WHO
7/30/09 09:13:23 WISH TO SPEAK.
7/30/09 09:13:26 COUNCIL HAS SET ASIDE
7/30/09 09:13:26 ABOUT 20-
7/30/09 09:13:28 30 MINUTES FOR ITEMS FIRST ON
7/30/09 09:13:30 THE AGENDA FOR THOSE THAT WISH
7/30/09 09:13:32 TO ADDRESS ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
7/30/09 09:13:35 YOU MAY LINE UP AND COME AND
7/30/09 09:13:35 SPEAK.
7/30/09 09:13:36 GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR
7/30/09 09:13:39 ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA.
7/30/09 09:13:41 THOSE ARE GIVEN PREFERENCE
7/30/09 09:13:43 FIRST AND THEN SPEAKERS AFTER
7/30/09 09:13:46 THAT WITHIN THE 30-MINUTE
7/30/09 09:13:47 TIME
7/30/09 09:13:47 BLOCK.
7/30/09 09:13:49 YOU'RE GOING TO BE SPEAKING TO
7/30/09 09:13:51 COUNCIL, YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO
7/30/09 09:13:53 PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME,
7/30/09 09:13:56 YOU CAN LINE UP.
7/30/09 09:13:57 COME ON.
7/30/09 09:13:57 YES.
7/30/09 09:14:00 STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS
7/30/09 09:14:00 FOR
7/30/09 09:14:02 THE RECORD.
7/30/09 09:14:03 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
7/30/09 09:14:06 MY NAME IS JAMES LAKE.
7/30/09 09:14:09 MY RESIDENTIAL ADDRESS IS 4218
7/30/09 09:14:10 WEST SAN PEDRO.
7/30/09 09:14:13 I'M HERE AS A LAWYER FOR
7/30/09 09:14:15 THE
7/30/09 09:14:15 TAMPA TRIBUNE.
7/30/09 09:14:17 AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO
7/30/09 09:14:20 BRIEFLY COMMENT ON AGENDA
7/30/09 09:14:21 ITEM
7/30/09 09:14:24 58 WHICH WE UNDERSTAND CONSISTS
7/30/09 09:14:27 OF TWO OPTIONS THE COUNCIL WILL
7/30/09 09:14:28 CONSIDER WITH REGARD TO
7/30/09 09:14:31 SOLICITATION ON THE CITY'S
7/30/09 09:14:31 RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
7/30/09 09:14:34 WITH ME ARE TOMMY McCLOUD AND
7/30/09 09:14:37 GARY STEEL OF
7/30/09 09:14:38 THE TAMPA TRIBUNE
7/30/09 09:14:40 AND GARY CAMP WHO IS ONE OF THE
7/30/09 09:14:41 INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS THAT
7/30/09 09:14:44 SELLS THE TRIBUNE IN THE CITY
7/30/09 09:14:44 OF TAMPA.
7/30/09 09:14:45 I WANT TO THANK THE CITY
7/30/09 09:14:47 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR SHARING
7/30/09 09:14:49 WITH US THE TWO OPTIONS BEFORE
7/30/09 09:14:50 THE COUNCIL TODAY AND WE HAVE
7/30/09 09:14:52 BEEN REVIEWING THOSE OPTIONS
7/30/09 09:14:53 THIS WEEK.
7/30/09 09:14:55 AND OUR REVIEW IS ONGOING.
7/30/09 09:14:58 BUT OUR REACTION AT LEAST AT
7/30/09 09:14:59 THIS INITIAL STAGE IS OF THE
7/30/09 09:15:02 TWO, OPTION TWO IS MUCH
7/30/09 09:15:03 PREFERRED AND MUCH PREFERRABLE
7/30/09 09:15:04 TO OPTION ONE.
7/30/09 09:15:06 I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY SHARE
7/30/09 09:15:08 THE REASONS FOR THAT
7/30/09 09:15:08 OBSERVATION.
7/30/09 09:15:09 OPTION ONE LOOKS LIKE IT WILL
7/30/09 09:15:12 REQUIRE A LOT OF PAPERWORK BY
7/30/09 09:15:14 PERSONS WHO WISH TO DISTRIBUTE
7/30/09 09:15:15 INFORMATION AND A LOT OF
7/30/09 09:15:17 PAPERWORK BY THE POLICE
7/30/09 09:15:17 DEPARTMENT.
7/30/09 09:15:20 FOR EXAMPLE, BUSINESSES SUCH AS
7/30/09 09:15:22 MR. CAMP'S WHO SELLS NEWSPAPERS
7/30/09 09:15:24 ON ROADWAYS WOULD HAVE TO
7/30/09 09:15:25 PROVIDE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS
7/30/09 09:15:26 TO THE CITY.
7/30/09 09:15:28 THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE THE
7/30/09 09:15:31 LOCATIONS, THE DATES AND
7/30/09 09:15:33 HOURS
7/30/09 09:15:34 AND AN INDEMNIFICATION
7/30/09 09:15:36 AGREEMENT BY EACH SEW LIST
7/30/09 09:15:37 TORE.
7/30/09 09:15:40 OUR NEWSPAPER IS SOLD BY SUNDAY
7/30/09 09:15:41 BY INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS
7/30/09 09:15:43 THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
7/30/09 09:15:45 LOCATIONS CAN CHANGE.
7/30/09 09:15:46 IT'S DIFFICULT TO PREDICT FAR
7/30/09 09:15:47 IN ADVANCE WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT
7/30/09 09:15:49 WANT TO BUY THE PAPER.
7/30/09 09:15:51 THE PARTICULAR PEOPLE WHO SELL
7/30/09 09:15:53 THE PAPER, THE INDIVIDUALS WHO
7/30/09 09:15:56 ARE OUT THERE, THAT CHANGES ON
7/30/09 09:15:56 ANY GIVEN SUNDAY.
7/30/09 09:15:59 SO OPPOSITE ONE WILL REQUIRE A
7/30/09 09:16:00 LOT OF PAPERWORK THAT WOULD
7/30/09 09:16:03 ADDRESS EACH OF THOSE CHANGES.
7/30/09 09:16:04 AND BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO
7/30/09 09:16:06 REQUIRE A LOT OF PAPERWORK FROM
7/30/09 09:16:09 THE FOLKS THAT GO OUT AND
7/30/09 09:16:10 DISTRIBUTE THE NEWSPAPER, IT
7/30/09 09:16:12 WILL CREATE A LOT OF PAPERWORK
7/30/09 09:16:14 FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO
7/30/09 09:16:14 DEAL WITH.
7/30/09 09:16:15 THIS WOULD COME UNDER THE
7/30/09 09:16:16 PROPOSAL TO THE POLICE
7/30/09 09:16:16 DEPARTMENT.
7/30/09 09:16:19 WE SEE A LOT OF ADMINISTRATIVE
7/30/09 09:16:22 BURDEN, A LOT OF PAPERWORK ON
7/30/09 09:16:23 SOLICITORS AND THE POLICE
7/30/09 09:16:23 DEPARTMENT.
7/30/09 09:16:25 WE ALSO HAVE SOME FIRST
7/30/09 09:16:28 AMENDMENT CONCERNS ABOUT THE
7/30/09 09:16:30 INDEMNIFICATION REQUIREMENT IN
7/30/09 09:16:30 OPTION ONE.
7/30/09 09:16:31 IT BASICALLY SAYS THAT ONLY
7/30/09 09:16:34 PEOPLE THAT AGREE TO INDEMNIFY
7/30/09 09:16:37 THE CITY CAN ENGAGE IN
7/30/09 09:16:40 THIS
7/30/09 09:16:40 PROTECTED ACTIVITY.
7/30/09 09:16:42 COURTS HAVE STRUCK DOWN
7/30/09 09:16:44 INSTANCES THAT REQUIRE THOSE
7/30/09 09:16:44 REQUIREMENTS.
7/30/09 09:16:46 WE HAVE CONCERNS ON A PRACTICAL
7/30/09 09:16:48 LEVEL AND A LEGAL MATTER ABOUT
7/30/09 09:16:49 OPPOSITE ONE.
7/30/09 09:16:51 OPPOSITE TWO ON THE OTHER HAND
7/30/09 09:16:52 WOULDN'T CREATE ALL OF THAT
7/30/09 09:16:54 PAPERWORK AND IT DOESN'T RAISE
7/30/09 09:16:55 THE FIRST AMENDMENT CONCERN
7/30/09 09:16:57 THAT I MENTIONED.
7/30/09 09:16:59 IT WOULD IMPOSE AN AGE
7/30/09 09:17:00 REQUIREMENT, IT WOULD KEEP
7/30/09 09:17:02 SOLICITORS OUT OF MOVING
7/30/09 09:17:05 TRAFFIC, IT WOULD REQUIRE THE
7/30/09 09:17:08 SAFETY VESTS TO BE WORN,
7/30/09 09:17:09 AND IT
7/30/09 09:17:12 WOULD PROHIBIT THE USE OF
7/30/09 09:17:12 AMPLIFIED SOUND EQUIPMENT.
7/30/09 09:17:14 OPPOSITE TWO IS MORE THAN
7/30/09 09:17:15 ADEQUATE WITH THOSE PROVISIONS
7/30/09 09:17:18 TO ADDRESS ANY SAFETY CONCERNS
7/30/09 09:17:20 THAT COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE BUT IT
7/30/09 09:17:22 DOESN'T UNDULY BURDEN
7/30/09 09:17:25 SOLICITORS AND DOESN'T
7/30/09 09:17:27 RAISE
7/30/09 09:17:28 THE CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION
7/30/09 09:17:30 THAT I MENTIONED.
7/30/09 09:17:31 THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
7/30/09 09:17:34 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:17:35 NEXT SPEAKER.
7/30/09 09:17:36 >> GOOD MORNING.
7/30/09 09:17:39 MY NAME IS SONIA
7/30/09 09:17:39 LONG.
7/30/09 09:17:42 I'M A NATIVE TAMPA PERSON.
7/30/09 09:17:43 BEING A SINGLE MOTHER, COLLEGE
7/30/09 09:17:45 GRADUATE, WITH THE TIMES THAT
7/30/09 09:17:46 WE HAVE HAD, WE HAVE ALL
7/30/09 09:17:48 NOTICED THAT THE ECONOMY HAS
7/30/09 09:17:48 GONE BAD.
7/30/09 09:17:51 EVEN HAVING A COLLEGE DEGREE,
7/30/09 09:17:54 I'M A GRADUATE OF FLORIDA A&M
7/30/09 09:17:56 BUSINESS OF INDUSTRY.
7/30/09 09:17:59 AND I HAVE HAD TO FIND A
7/30/09 09:18:02 WAY TO
7/30/09 09:18:02 SUPPLEMENT MY EQUIPMENT.
7/30/09 09:18:04 IT IS SOMETHING THAT HELPS ME
7/30/09 09:18:06 BE ABLE TO MAKE IT THROUGH THE
7/30/09 09:18:09 MONTH, THROUGH THE WEEK, WHEN I
7/30/09 09:18:10 HAVE OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES.
7/30/09 09:18:12 I'VE HAD TO TAKE A CUT BACK IN
7/30/09 09:18:12 PAY.
7/30/09 09:18:14 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN
7/30/09 09:18:17 ABLE TO HELP ME PROVIDE FOR MY
7/30/09 09:18:18 FAMILY, MY THREE KIDS.
7/30/09 09:18:19 AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NOT
7/30/09 09:18:22 ONLY DOES IT HELP ME, BUT IT
7/30/09 09:18:23 ALSO HELPS OUR COMMUNITY.
7/30/09 09:18:25 IT HELPS OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE
7/30/09 09:18:26 NOT ABLE, WHO ARE NOT FORTUNATE
7/30/09 09:18:28 TO HAVE A JOB THAT I DO BE ABLE
7/30/09 09:18:31 TO CONTINUE ON AND MAKE IT
7/30/09 09:18:32 THROUGH THE WEEK.
7/30/09 09:18:33 IT'S VERY HARD.
7/30/09 09:18:36 OUR CUSTOMER BASE LOOKS FOR US
7/30/09 09:18:36 BEING OUT THERE.
7/30/09 09:18:37 IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS LEGAL.
7/30/09 09:18:39 IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS
7/30/09 09:18:41 FULFILLING AND IT IS SOMETHING
7/30/09 09:18:43 THAT WE DO NOT WANT YOU TO TAKE
7/30/09 09:18:43 AWAY FROM US.
7/30/09 09:18:45 WE UNDERSTAND THAT SAFETY IS A
7/30/09 09:18:47 CONCERN OF YOURS AS WELL AS
7/30/09 09:18:47 OURS.
7/30/09 09:18:48 AND WE'RE WILLING TO DO
7/30/09 09:18:49 WHATEVER IT TAKES TO PROVIDE
7/30/09 09:18:49 THAT.
7/30/09 09:18:51 BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW
7/30/09 09:18:54 THAT ME HAVING A COLLEGE DEGREE
7/30/09 09:18:55 AND HAVING TO TAKE A CUT BACK
7/30/09 09:18:56 AND DOING SOMETHING THAT I
7/30/09 09:18:57 NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD DO IS YOU
7/30/09 09:18:59 HAVE TO DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO
7/30/09 09:19:00 MAKE IT THROUGH.
7/30/09 09:19:02 I'M A SINGLE PARENT.
7/30/09 09:19:04 AND I PLEAD TO THE COUNCIL TO
7/30/09 09:19:07 PLEASE NOT TAKE THAT
7/30/09 09:19:08 FROM US.
7/30/09 09:19:11 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:19:12 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:19:15 >> MY NAME IS GEORGE I LIVE
7/30/09 09:19:16 AT
7/30/09 09:19:17 9240 IN TAMPA TERRACE.
7/30/09 09:19:20 I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I
7/30/09 09:19:23 SELL THE TIMES IN TAMPA, I HAVE
7/30/09 09:19:25 NOT DOING IT FOR TWO AND A HALF
7/30/09 09:19:25 YEARS.
7/30/09 09:19:27 IT HELPS ME PAY SOME OF MY
7/30/09 09:19:28 BILLS AND I RIDE A BICYCLE OUT
7/30/09 09:19:31 THERE EVERY SUNDAY
7/30/09 09:19:34 TO DO THIS.
7/30/09 09:19:37 AND I DON'T
7/30/09 09:19:38 BELIEVE --IF YOU
7/30/09 09:19:40 TAKE US OFF THE STREET, IT'S
7/30/09 09:19:41 NOT GOING TO HELP BECAUSE I'M
7/30/09 09:19:44 NOT GOING TO BE AABLE TO PAY MY
7/30/09 09:19:46 BILLS.
7/30/09 09:19:49 AND
7/30/09 09:19:50 THAT'S ALL.
7/30/09 09:19:51 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:19:53 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
7/30/09 09:19:55 MY NAME IS SHANNON.
7/30/09 09:19:57 I SELL THE SUNDAY PAPER.
7/30/09 09:20:00 EVERY SUNDAY I GET UP AT 5:30
7/30/09 09:20:02 TO SELL NEWSPAPERS.
7/30/09 09:20:04 WITH THE ECONOMY BAD, I DON'T
7/30/09 09:20:07 HAVE NOTHING ELSE FOR AN
7/30/09 09:20:07 INCOME.
7/30/09 09:20:10 I CAME FROM A JOB MAKING 30
7/30/09 09:20:11 TO
7/30/09 09:20:12 40,000 A YEAR.
7/30/09 09:20:14 NOW I'M SELLING NEWSPAPERS TO
7/30/09 09:20:16 PAY WHAT, ONE BILL OR TWO BILLS
7/30/09 09:20:17 A WEEK.
7/30/09 09:20:19 IF YOU TAKE THIS FROM ME,
7/30/09 09:20:20 YOU'RE JUST CUTTING MORE JOBS,
7/30/09 09:20:23 SO PLEASE
7/30/09 09:20:29 THINK
7/30/09 09:20:32 ABOUT IT
7/30/09 09:20:33 .
7/30/09 09:20:36 >> CHAIRMAN AND
7/30/09 09:20:38 DISTINGUISHED
7/30/09 09:20:41 COUNCIL PEOPLE, IF
7/30/09 09:20:42 I MAYO OWE I
7/30/09 09:20:45 HAVE SOME INFORMATION THAT I
7/30/09 09:20:48 WOULD
7/30/09 09:20:51 LIKE
7/30/09 09:20:54 TO SHARE
7/30/09 09:21:00 . MY
7/30/09 09:21:00 LAST
7/30/09 09:21:03 TIME HERE, THERE WERE QUESTIONS
7/30/09 09:21:05 ABOUT MY --DID I HAVE A PROPER
7/30/09 09:21:08 LICENSE WITH THE STATE
7/30/09 09:21:13 OF
7/30/09 09:21:13 FLORIDA.
7/30/09 09:21:16 UNFORTUNATELY ,
7/30/09 09:21:17 MY CERTIFICATION
7/30/09 09:21:20 AND QUALIFICATION IN THIS FIELD
7/30/09 09:21:20 --
7/30/09 09:21:22 >> I GUESS I NEED CLARITY ON
7/30/09 09:21:22 THIS.
7/30/09 09:21:24 I THINK THAT YOU HAVE AN
7/30/09 09:21:25 OPPORTUNITY ON THE
7/30/09 09:21:25 RECONSIDERATION.
7/30/09 09:21:28 ARE YOU ASKING FOR A
7/30/09 09:21:28 RECONSIDERATION?
7/30/09 09:21:29 >> NO, SIR.
7/30/09 09:21:32 I'M NOT ASKING FOR A
7/30/09 09:21:37 RECONSIDERATION.
7/30/09 09:21:40 MY COMPANY
7/30/09 09:21:42 WAS SLANDERED BY MR.
7/30/09 09:21:42 MIRANDA.
7/30/09 09:21:45 AND THIS IS THE ARENA THAT IT
7/30/09 09:21:45 TOOK PLACE.
7/30/09 09:21:47 I'M HERE IN THIS SAME ARENA TO
7/30/09 09:21:50 TELL YOU THAT I DO HAVE A
7/30/09 09:21:52 LICENSE, WHICH I JUST ISSUED TO
7/30/09 09:21:52 YOU.
7/30/09 09:21:55 NOW, I KNOW
7/30/09 09:21:58 THIS IS NOT A
7/30/09 09:21:59 REASON FOR DISPUTE AND YOU MADE
7/30/09 09:21:59 THAT CLEAR.
7/30/09 09:22:02 WE WILL GET TO THAT.
7/30/09 09:22:05 I WAS SLANDERED HERE, I'M BACK
7/30/09 09:22:07 HERE TO SAY HERE IS MY
7/30/09 09:22:10 CREDENTIAL, HERE
7/30/09 09:22:11 IS MY LICENSE.
7/30/09 09:22:12 YOU CAN'T DO A SPIN.
7/30/09 09:22:15 THERE IT IS FOR THE
7/30/09 09:22:18 CITY
7/30/09 09:22:18 COUNCIL'S REVIEW.
7/30/09 09:22:19 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:22:21 >> THE CHAIRMAN SAYS THAT MY
7/30/09 09:22:24 NAME WAS USED IN
7/30/09 09:22:27 A SLANDERRIST
7/30/09 09:22:29 REMARK.
7/30/09 09:22:30 DON'T LEAVE THE ROOM BECAUSE
7/30/09 09:22:31 I'M GOING TO TALK BACK.
7/30/09 09:22:33 I'M NOT GOING TO DEBATE YOU.
7/30/09 09:22:35 I CHECKED AND REVIEWED THE
7/30/09 09:22:36 RECORD YESTERDAY BASED ON THE
7/30/09 09:22:37 --I GUESS YOU WROTE THE
7/30/09 09:22:40 COMMENTS IN ONE OF THE LOCAL
7/30/09 09:22:40 NEWSPAPERS.
7/30/09 09:22:43 I CHECKED THE RECORDS.
7/30/09 09:22:44 UNFORTUNATELY WE CHANGED THE
7/30/09 09:22:47 INDIVIDUALS WHO DO THE
7/30/09 09:22:48 TRANSLATION FROM WHAT WE SPEAK
7/30/09 09:22:50 AND HOW IT'S DONE SOMEWHERE
7/30/09 09:22:53 ELSE AND IT'S IT DONE SOMEWHERE
7/30/09 09:22:54 IN NEBRASKA, IOWA OR SOMEBODY
7/30/09 09:22:56 BECAUSE THEY WERE THE LOWEST
7/30/09 09:22:56 BIDDERS.
7/30/09 09:22:59 I DO NOT FIND WHAT YOU SAY IS
7/30/09 09:23:00 ACCURATE.
7/30/09 09:23:02 I AM GOING TO OFFER YOU AN
7/30/09 09:23:03 OPPORTUNITY AND SEND YOU, SIR,
7/30/09 09:23:06 A COPY OF THE DISK OF WHAT I
7/30/09 09:23:08 RECALL THAT I SAID THAT A B
7/30/09 09:23:10 LICENSE IS ONE THING AND YOU
7/30/09 09:23:11 NEED ANOTHER LICENSE, AN A
7/30/09 09:23:12 LICENSE TO RUN A COMPANY.
7/30/09 09:23:14 WHAT MY VOTE WAS BASED ON --
7/30/09 09:23:16 AND LET ME MAKE THIS VERY
7/30/09 09:23:17 CLEAR, WAS THE SECOND PART THAT
7/30/09 09:23:20 YOU HAVE NEVER
7/30/09 09:23:23 ADDRESSED.
7/30/09 09:23:25 AND THAT RFP, IT STATED THAT
7/30/09 09:23:26 YOU NEEDED FIVE YEARS
7/30/09 09:23:29 EXPERIENCE IN THAT BUSINESS AND
7/30/09 09:23:32 THREE COMPANIES THAT YOU WORKED
7/30/09 09:23:33 AND DIDN'T WORK FOR DURING THAT
7/30/09 09:23:34 PERIOD OF TIME.
7/30/09 09:23:35 SO MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M NOT GOING
7/30/09 09:23:36 TO DEBATE.
7/30/09 09:23:39 I'M NOT GOING TO --I'M
7/30/09 09:23:42 NOT
7/30/09 09:23:42 GOING TO DEBATE.
7/30/09 09:23:44 I AM ENTITLED TO REVIEW WHAT I
7/30/09 09:23:46 SAID AND I'M GOING TO SEND HIM
7/30/09 09:23:48 A COURTESY, A DISK OF IT AND HE
7/30/09 09:23:50 CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS WITH
7/30/09 09:23:50 IT.
7/30/09 09:23:53 >> I HAVE THE TAPE WHERE YOU
7/30/09 09:23:56 CLEARLY SAID I --WE DON'T CARE
7/30/09 09:23:57 WHAT YOU'VE GOT.
7/30/09 09:23:59 IS THAT PART OF YOUR COMMENT?
7/30/09 09:24:02 WHO IS
7/30/09 09:24:02 WE.
7/30/09 09:24:05 YOU
7/30/09 09:24:08 SAID WE DON'T --
7/30/09 09:24:08 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 09:24:09 YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
7/30/09 09:24:11 THREE MINUTES AND HE WAS
7/30/09 09:24:12 RESPONDING BECAUSE YOU MADE
7/30/09 09:24:14 ALLEGATIONS SO HE WAS TRYING TO
7/30/09 09:24:15 CORRECT THE ALLEGATIONS.
7/30/09 09:24:16 WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST BECAUSE
7/30/09 09:24:18 THIS IS NOT ON THE AGENDA
7/30/09 09:24:20 TODAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR THREE
7/30/09 09:24:23 MINUTES AND WHATEVER MR.
7/30/09 09:24:24 MIRANDA HAS, HE CAN FORWARD IT
7/30/09 09:24:27 TO YOU AND YOU CAN FORWARD BACK
7/30/09 09:24:27 WHATEVER YOU HAVE.
7/30/09 09:24:29 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
7/30/09 09:24:30 >> NEXT SPEAKER.
7/30/09 09:24:33 >> MY NAME
7/30/09 09:24:34 IS SAMUEL ELLISSON
7/30/09 09:24:37 AND I WORK FOR THE TIMES
7/30/09 09:24:37 ON
7/30/09 09:24:37 SUNDAY.
7/30/09 09:24:39 IT'S GIVEN ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO
7/30/09 09:24:41 CHANGE MY LIFE AND TRY TO DO
7/30/09 09:24:43 THINGS THE RIGHT WAY INSTEAD OF
7/30/09 09:24:45 THE WRONG WAY AND STAY FOCUSED
7/30/09 09:24:46 ON STAYING OUT OF TROUBLE.
7/30/09 09:24:48 I HAVEN'T WORKED IN A LONG
7/30/09 09:24:48 TIME.
7/30/09 09:24:50 BUT I HAVE FUN OUT THERE WITH
7/30/09 09:24:53 THE CUSTOMERS AND, YOU KNOW, I
7/30/09 09:24:53 GET TREATED FAIRLY.
7/30/09 09:24:56 SO, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IN
7/30/09 09:24:58 DOING THINGS RIGHT NOW.
7/30/09 09:24:59 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:25:01 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
7/30/09 09:25:02 NEXT SPEAKER.
7/30/09 09:25:04 >> YES, SIR, THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:25:05 MY NAME IS CHARMS DUTY.
7/30/09 09:25:08 I'M WITH SAFETY
7/30/09 09:25:09 TIMES.
7/30/09 09:25:11 I LIVE AT 12005 PARK BOULEVARD.
7/30/09 09:25:14 I'M A BIT NERVOUS SPEAKING TO
7/30/09 09:25:14 YOU GENTLEMAN.
7/30/09 09:25:16 BASICALLY I WOULD LIKE TO TELL
7/30/09 09:25:18 YOU ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT WORK
7/30/09 09:25:18 FOR US.
7/30/09 09:25:20 I DELIVER NEWSPAPERS TO THE
7/30/09 09:25:20 CORNERS.
7/30/09 09:25:22 I MEET A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE.
7/30/09 09:25:25 NOT ONLY DO THIS --ARE
7/30/09 09:25:26 THEY
7/30/09 09:25:27 SAFE AND CONSCIENTIOUS, BUT I
7/30/09 09:25:30 BELIEVE THEY KEEP THEIR EYES
7/30/09 09:25:30 OPEN.
7/30/09 09:25:32 A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE CELL
7/30/09 09:25:32 PHONES.
7/30/09 09:25:35 I HAVE SEEN MANY OF THE PEOPLE
7/30/09 09:25:37 HELP DISTRESSED MOTORISTS, I
7/30/09 09:25:40 HAVE SEEN THEM CALL PEOPLE TO
7/30/09 09:25:41 HELP SAVE THEM.
7/30/09 09:25:44 I THINK THE PROS AND CONS
7/30/09 09:25:44 --
7/30/09 09:25:45 THE PROS OUTWEIGH ANY CONS.
7/30/09 09:25:47 I KNOW THEY ARE SAFE.
7/30/09 09:25:50 WE DO CHECK ON THEM CONSTANTLY.
7/30/09 09:25:51 WE BRING THEM WATER, WE MAKE
7/30/09 09:25:53 SURE THAT THEY'RE PLAYING BY
7/30/09 09:25:55 THE RULES TO THE BEST OF OUR
7/30/09 09:25:57 ABILITIES AND I JUST HOPE THAT
7/30/09 09:25:59 YOU KEEP THAT IN MIND, THAT
7/30/09 09:26:01 THEY ARE HARDWORKING PEOPLE.
7/30/09 09:26:04 A LOT OF THEM SHOW UP BRIGHT
7/30/09 09:26:08 AND EARLY, BUSHY EYED AND READY
7/30/09 09:26:10 TO ROCK 'N' ROLL.
7/30/09 09:26:11 I THOUGHT I HAD TO SAY
7/30/09 09:26:14 SOMETHING ON
7/30/09 09:26:14 THEIR BEHALF.
7/30/09 09:26:15 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:26:18 >> GOOD
7/30/09 09:26:20 MORNING, COUNCIL.
7/30/09 09:26:23 MY NAME
7/30/09 09:26:26 IS DAVE DRICOLL.
7/30/09 09:26:29 I PRESENTLY CONTRACT OUT
7/30/09 09:26:29 175
7/30/09 09:26:31 JOBS ON SUNDAY TO STREET
7/30/09 09:26:33 VENDING SALES IN THE
7/30/09 09:26:34 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AREA,
7/30/09 09:26:37 INCLUDING THE
7/30/09 09:26:39 CITY OF TAMPA.
7/30/09 09:26:42 BETWEEN THE TAMPA
7/30/09 09:26:45 TRIBUNE
7/30/09 09:26:46 AND
7/30/09 09:26:48 THE ST. PETERSBURG TIME, WE
7/30/09 09:26:50 HAVE 400 STREET VENDORS SELLING
7/30/09 09:26:51 NEWSPAPERS ON SUNDAY.
7/30/09 09:26:54 THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF LABOR
7/30/09 09:26:57 POOLS OPEN
7/30/09 09:26:59 FOR THESE PEOPLE TO
7/30/09 09:27:02 SUBSIDIZE THEIR INCOME OR IT'S
7/30/09 09:27:03 THEIR ONLY INCOME.
7/30/09 09:27:06 I HOPE COUNCIL LOOKS AT THAT.
7/30/09 09:27:08 WE DO TRANSPORTATION TO AND
7/30/09 09:27:10 FROM THE SITES FOR PEOPLE.
7/30/09 09:27:13 WE HAVE THEM IN LIGHT GREEN
7/30/09 09:27:16 SHIRTS AS YOU SEE IN THE ROOM
7/30/09 09:27:16 FOR SAFETY PURPOSES.
7/30/09 09:27:19 WE TAKE AS MANY SAFETY
7/30/09 09:27:20 PRECAUTIONS AS WE CAN.
7/30/09 09:27:22 OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, THERE
7/30/09 09:27:25 HAVE BEEN TWO INCIDENCES ON
7/30/09 09:27:27 STREET CORNERS OF A MINOR
7/30/09 09:27:29 INCIDENT OVER A 200-WEEK PERIOD
7/30/09 09:27:31 WHICH IS A PRETTY GOOD TRACK
7/30/09 09:27:33 RECORD AS FAR AS SAFETY GOES.
7/30/09 09:27:35 I HOPE THAT COUNCIL LOOKS AT
7/30/09 09:27:37 THE DESIRE OF THESE PEOPLE TO
7/30/09 09:27:38 ACTUALLY WORK AND EARN INCOME
7/30/09 09:27:40 FOR THEIR FAMILIES WHEN YOU GO
7/30/09 09:27:43 BACK AND LOOK AT
7/30/09 09:27:45 THE REVIEW.
7/30/09 09:27:47 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:27:48 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:27:49 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
7/30/09 09:27:52 MY NAME IS
7/30/09 09:27:53 DARREN DRISCOLL.
7/30/09 09:27:56 I'M THE OTHER HILLSBOROUGH
7/30/09 09:27:58 CONTRACTOR FOR THE ST.
7/30/09 09:27:59 PETERSBURG TIMES.
7/30/09 09:28:00 I'M GOING TO MAKE IT SHORT AND
7/30/09 09:28:03 SWEET AND TALK ABOUT THE
7/30/09 09:28:06 EFFECTS, THE REPERCUSSIONS THIS
7/30/09 09:28:08 COULD HAVE NOT ONLY ON ON THE
7/30/09 09:28:10 PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM BUT WE HAVE
7/30/09 09:28:12 OUR READERS THAT AMBULATE INTO
7/30/09 09:28:14 OUR VOTERS, WE HAVE THE
7/30/09 09:28:14 NEWSPAPER SERVERS.
7/30/09 09:28:16 WE HAVE BEEN IN THE NEWSPAPER
7/30/09 09:28:17 BUSINESS FOR 20-PLUS YEARS.
7/30/09 09:28:19 I HAVE BEEN AT THE CORPORATE
7/30/09 09:28:22 LEVEL, I WORKED IN THREE
7/30/09 09:28:24 DIFFERENT MAJOR CITIES FOR
7/30/09 09:28:25 THREE MAJOR PAPERS.
7/30/09 09:28:26 THERE'S NO JOB --I'M ALSO A
7/30/09 09:28:28 VOLUNTEER COACH AT THE CHURCH.
7/30/09 09:28:30 THERE'S NOT A MORE REWARDING
7/30/09 09:28:31 POSITION THAN THIS POSITION ON
7/30/09 09:28:32 SUNDAY NIGHT WHEN I GO HOME AND
7/30/09 09:28:34 I SEE THE FACES ON THE FAMILIES
7/30/09 09:28:36 THAT I HAVE HELPED.
7/30/09 09:28:39 I HAVE HELPED THEM GET FOOD, I
7/30/09 09:28:41 HAVE HELPED THEM PAY FOR
7/30/09 09:28:41 SHELTER.
7/30/09 09:28:44 I HAVE BECOME LIKE A MENTOR TO
7/30/09 09:28:46 A LOT OF MY PEOPLE.
7/30/09 09:28:49 I HAVE A 99 THE PERCENT,
7/30/09 09:28:49 I
7/30/09 09:28:52 BELIEVE I COVER THE
7/30/09 09:28:57 AREA WHERE
7/30/09 09:28:57 MR. CAETANO RESIDES.
7/30/09 09:28:59 I CAN'T IMAGINE GOING BACK TO
7/30/09 09:29:00 THEM AND EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT
7/30/09 09:29:02 YOU'RE OUT OF WORK THIS WEEK.
7/30/09 09:29:04 I CONSIDER THE REPERCUSSIONS
7/30/09 09:29:06 THAT THIS HAS ON EVERYBODY AS
7/30/09 09:29:07 WELL AS MYSELF AND I THANK YOU
7/30/09 09:29:08 FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
7/30/09 09:29:11 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:29:12 NEXT SPEAKER.
7/30/09 09:29:13 >> GOOD MORNING.
7/30/09 09:29:15 MY NAME IS JAMES ROSEN THAT YOU
7/30/09 09:29:16 WILL.
7/30/09 09:29:17 I'M CURRENTLY HOMELESS ON THE
7/30/09 09:29:20 STREETS
7/30/09 09:29:20 OF TAMPA.
7/30/09 09:29:23 UP TO FIVE MONTHS AGO, I HAD
7/30/09 09:29:26 GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT, I WAS
7/30/09 09:29:28 SELLING NEWSPAPERS TO
7/30/09 09:29:29 SUPPLEMENT INCOME.
7/30/09 09:29:31 WITH THE LOSS OF MY JOB, I HAVE
7/30/09 09:29:32 ONLY THIS TO DO.
7/30/09 09:29:34 I UNDERSTAND THAT SAFETY IS AN
7/30/09 09:29:35 ISSUE BUT IT NEEDS TO BE
7/30/09 09:29:38 ADDRESSED WITH THE PEOPLE
7/30/09 09:29:39 ON
7/30/09 09:29:40 THE STREETS.
7/30/09 09:29:43 BUT TO ELIMINATE A SOURCE
7/30/09 09:29:44 OF
7/30/09 09:29:47 INCOME THAT PEOPLE NEED LEAVE
7/30/09 09:29:50 NO OTHER DOORS
7/30/09 09:29:52 FOR SOME PEOPLE.
7/30/09 09:29:54 I JUST ASK THAT YOU CAREFULLY
7/30/09 09:29:57 LOOK AT THINGS AND, PLEASE,
7/30/09 09:29:57 RECONSIDER.
7/30/09 09:30:00 THANK
7/30/09 09:30:01 YOU.
7/30/09 09:30:03 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:30:05 >> I'M GEORGE HARRIS.
7/30/09 09:30:08 I SELL PAPERS FOR THE
7/30/09 09:30:12 ST. PETES
7/30/09 09:30:12 TIMES.
7/30/09 09:30:14 YOU TAKE FOOD FROM SOMETHING,
7/30/09 09:30:17 WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO
7/30/09 09:30:20 GET
7/30/09 09:30:21 IT
7/30/09 09:30:21 FROM?
7/30/09 09:30:21 COMMON SENSE.
7/30/09 09:30:24 PEOPLE GET HIT ON THE STREETS,
7/30/09 09:30:27 FIVE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HIT.
7/30/09 09:30:30 THREE OF THEM
7/30/09 09:30:31 DIED.
7/30/09 09:30:33 NOT SELLING NEWSPAPERS.
7/30/09 09:30:36 PEOPLE IN TAMPA DRIVE CRAZY
7/30/09 09:30:39 ANYWAY.
7/30/09 09:30:40 [LAUGHTER]
7/30/09 09:30:41 >>> WE HAVE COMMON SENSE.
7/30/09 09:30:44 WE'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO GET
7/30/09 09:30:47 HIT SELLING
7/30/09 09:30:48 PAPERS.
7/30/09 09:30:51 MOST OF THE --EVEN YOU ALL
7/30/09 09:30:54 KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT AND YOU
7/30/09 09:30:55 KNOW YOU'RE HONKING YOUR HORN
7/30/09 09:30:56 AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
7/30/09 09:30:59 BUT DON'T TAKE THAT AWAY
7/30/09 09:30:59 FROM
7/30/09 09:30:59 US.
7/30/09 09:31:03 WE'RE ALREADY IN
7/30/09 09:31:03 BAD SHAPE.
7/30/09 09:31:05 THE RICH PEOPLE ARE IN
7/30/09 09:31:07 RECESSION AND THE POOR PEOPLE
7/30/09 09:31:08 ARE IN DEPRESSION.
7/30/09 09:31:08 THAT'S THE TRUTH.
7/30/09 09:31:11 YOU GO HOME TO A
7/30/09 09:31:12 NICE HOUSE.
7/30/09 09:31:15 WE ARE TRYING TO SURVIVE THE
7/30/09 09:31:15 ROOM SOMEWHERE.
7/30/09 09:31:17 I DON'T HAVE A ROOM.
7/30/09 09:31:19 DON'T TAKE THAT FROM US.
7/30/09 09:31:21 HAVE A GOOD SPIRIT ABOUT IT.
7/30/09 09:31:24 THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME
7/30/09 09:31:24 SPEAK.
7/30/09 09:31:27 >>
7/30/09 09:31:28 THANK YOU, SIR.
7/30/09 09:31:30 >> GOOD MORNING.
7/30/09 09:31:33 MY NAME
7/30/09 09:31:35 IS WALTER CRUMBLY.
7/30/09 09:31:38 I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE
7/30/09 09:31:38 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
7/30/09 09:31:40 AND I GET BOTH PAPERS DELIVERED
7/30/09 09:31:41 TO MY HOUSE.
7/30/09 09:31:42 BUT I CAN APPRECIATE WHERE
7/30/09 09:31:44 THESE GUYS ARE COMING FROM.
7/30/09 09:31:45 BUT I CAME HERE THIS MORNING TO
7/30/09 09:31:46 THANK YOU FOR SOMETHING THAT
7/30/09 09:31:50 YOU DID A COUPLE MONTHS AGO
7/30/09 09:31:52 WHEN YOU PASSED THE RESIDENT
7/30/09 09:31:55 ONLY PARKING ORDINANCE IN
7/30/09 09:31:55 OUR
7/30/09 09:31:55 NEIGHBORHOOD.
7/30/09 09:31:58 AND I WANT TO TELL YOU IT HAS
7/30/09 09:31:58 REALLY DONE WELL.
7/30/09 09:32:01 IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE ENTIRE
7/30/09 09:32:03 NEIGHBORHOOD IS EMBRACED.
7/30/09 09:32:06 IT'S CHANGED
7/30/09 09:32:08 EVERYTHING OVER
7/30/09 09:32:08 THERE.
7/30/09 09:32:10 WE STILL HAVE A FEW THINGS TO
7/30/09 09:32:10 WORK OUT.
7/30/09 09:32:11 BUT BELIEVE ME, YOU FOLKS DID
7/30/09 09:32:13 THE RIGHT THING WHEN YOU PASSED
7/30/09 09:32:14 THAT ORDINANCE.
7/30/09 09:32:16 IT HAS REALLY HELPED US A LOT.
7/30/09 09:32:17 I JUST WANTED TO COME DOWN HERE
7/30/09 09:32:20 THIS MORNING AND TELL YOU THANK
7/30/09 09:32:20 YOU FOR IT.
7/30/09 09:32:21 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
7/30/09 09:32:24 >> THANK YOU
7/30/09 09:32:30 FOR
7/30/09 09:32:31 THANKING US.
7/30/09 09:32:32 >> GOOD MORNING.
7/30/09 09:32:35 MY NAME IS
7/30/09 09:32:36 ALAN DOBBS.
7/30/09 09:32:39 I LIVE IN SEMINAL HEIGHTS.
7/30/09 09:32:40 SORRY IF I'M OUT OF BREATH.
7/30/09 09:32:42 I WAS WATCHING THIS ON WEB CAST
7/30/09 09:32:45 AND I HEARD THE CITY COUNCIL
7/30/09 09:32:47 SAY THAT FOR STAFF REPORTS
7/30/09 09:32:49 THERE'S NOT PUBLIC COMMENTS SO
7/30/09 09:32:51 I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM
7/30/09 09:32:54 NUMBER 60, THE SEMINAL
7/30/09 09:32:56 HEIGHTS
7/30/09 09:32:58 GARDEN CENTER TOUR.
7/30/09 09:33:00 I ASSUME THE CITY COUNCIL GOT A
7/30/09 09:33:03 REPORT THAT WAS PREPARED BY THE
7/30/09 09:33:04 AIR CONDITIONING SUBCONTRACTOR
7/30/09 09:33:05 THAT BASICALLY SHOWS HOW THE
7/30/09 09:33:07 CITY COULD SAVE MORE THAN
7/30/09 09:33:10 $100,000 BY NOT USING
7/30/09 09:33:12 THE
7/30/09 09:33:12 SYSTEM.
7/30/09 09:33:15 I WORKED WITH --I'M
7/30/09 09:33:17 A
7/30/09 09:33:17 MECHANICAL ENGINEER.
7/30/09 09:33:20 I MET THE CHURCH ABOUT THREE OR
7/30/09 09:33:20 FOUR YEARS AGO.
7/30/09 09:33:22 I SENT THIS REPORT TO HIM AND
7/30/09 09:33:24 ALSO GOT THE IMAGE CALCULATIONS
7/30/09 09:33:26 FROM THE CITY, SENT THAT TO
7/30/09 09:33:26 HIM.
7/30/09 09:33:29 AND I HAVE A
7/30/09 09:33:31 COPY HIS E-MAIL
7/30/09 09:33:32 WHICH I CAN SUBMIT.
7/30/09 09:33:33 I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE
7/30/09 09:33:35 RIGHT PLACE TO DO IT.
7/30/09 09:33:37 HIS OPINION WAS THAT IT'S
7/30/09 09:33:37 GROSSLY OVERSIZED.
7/30/09 09:33:39 CONTINUES A QUESTION OF WHETHER
7/30/09 09:33:42 IT WILL WORK OR NOT, IT'S A
7/30/09 09:33:44 QUESTION IF IT'S THE MOST
7/30/09 09:33:46 ECONOMICAL SYSTEM FOR THE
7/30/09 09:33:49 GARDEN CENTER, WHICH
7/30/09 09:33:50 IT'S NOT.
7/30/09 09:33:50 APPARENTLY THE MECHANICAL
7/30/09 09:33:53 ENGINEER UNDER THE DIRECTION
7/30/09 09:33:55 OF
7/30/09 09:33:56 THE CITY SPECIFIED AND THAT'S
7/30/09 09:33:59 THE ONLY REASON IT'S BEING
7/30/09 09:33:59 USED.
7/30/09 09:34:02 SEVERAL RELATED ITEMS WITH THE
7/30/09 09:34:05 GARDEN CENTER ARE --
7/30/09 09:34:06 SINCE THIS
7/30/09 09:34:09 IS A
7/30/09 09:34:10 HISTORIC DISTRICT, IT
7/30/09 09:34:13 LOOKS LIKE THE CITY ARE NOT
7/30/09 09:34:16 GOING TO DO THE ROOF --
7/30/09 09:34:17 YOU'RE
7/30/09 09:34:19 SUPPOSED TO HAVE COPPER
7/30/09 09:34:20 FLASHING.
7/30/09 09:34:22 THE CHURCH WHEN IT DID THE
7/30/09 09:34:24 RENOVATION THREE OR FOUR YEARS
7/30/09 09:34:25 AGO, THEY WERE REQUIRED TO PUT
7/30/09 09:34:28 IN THIS COPPER STEP FLASHING.
7/30/09 09:34:30 WHEN I EXPRESSED MY CONCERNS HE
7/30/09 09:34:31 TOLD ME, WELL, WE DON'T KNOW IF
7/30/09 09:34:34 THE MONEY IS IN THE BUDGET FOR
7/30/09 09:34:34 THAT.
7/30/09 09:34:37 I LOOKED IN THE SPECIFICATIONS
7/30/09 09:34:39 FOR THE GARDEN CENTER AND I DID
7/30/09 09:34:42 NOT SEE COPPER FLASHING, I
7/30/09 09:34:43 SAW
7/30/09 09:34:43 ALUMINUM FLASHING.
7/30/09 09:34:44 AND THEN ALSO IN THE DRAWING
7/30/09 09:34:47 THAT I SAW, THE CITY IS GOING
7/30/09 09:34:49 TO BE REPLACING THE CHIMNEY CAP
7/30/09 09:34:52 WITH SOMETHING
7/30/09 09:34:53 THAT IS
7/30/09 09:34:53 INAPPROPRIATE.
7/30/09 09:34:55 WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE
7/30/09 09:34:56 WINDOWS AND OTHER THINGS.
7/30/09 09:34:59 WHAT I REALIZED IN TALKING TO
7/30/09 09:35:02 RON, THERE'S AN
7/30/09 09:35:03 INHERENT
7/30/09 09:35:04 CONFLICT OF INTEREST BETWEEN
7/30/09 09:35:07 THE ARC AND THE CITY OF TAMPA
7/30/09 09:35:08 DOING THIS PROJECT ON ITS OWN.
7/30/09 09:35:10 I FEEL FOR RON.
7/30/09 09:35:11 HE IS RELUCTANT TO MAKE ANY
7/30/09 09:35:14 WAVES BECAUSE HE WORKS FOR THE
7/30/09 09:35:15 CITY.
7/30/09 09:35:18 I MET WITH LINDA SAUL-SENA
7/30/09 09:35:20 EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS BECAUSE
7/30/09 09:35:23 THE CITY WAS NOT USING
7/30/09 09:35:24 A
7/30/09 09:35:24 PRESERVATION ARCHITECT.
7/30/09 09:35:25 NOW WE'RE SEEING ALL THESE
7/30/09 09:35:28 THINGS ON HOW THE CITY HAS --
7/30/09 09:35:30 IS NOT DOING THIS PROJECT
7/30/09 09:35:33 CORRECTLY IN SOME RESPECTS.
7/30/09 09:35:35 ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS THEY'RE
7/30/09 09:35:37 INSISTING ON USING HIGH IMPACT
7/30/09 09:35:39 WINDOWS ON THIS PROJECT.
7/30/09 09:35:42 IT'S A --IT CAN BE
7/30/09 09:35:43 A
7/30/09 09:35:43 HISTORICALLY APPROPRIATE WINDOW
7/30/09 09:35:45 BUT THEY'RE NOT USING THAT,
7/30/09 09:35:48 THEY'RE USING SOME OTHER
7/30/09 09:35:50 PRODUCT INSTEAD.
7/30/09 09:35:52 WE QUESTION WHY HIGH IMPACT AND
7/30/09 09:35:54 THE CITY SAID VANDALISM.
7/30/09 09:35:57 I HAVE LIVED IN SEMINAL HEIGHTS
7/30/09 09:35:58 SINCE '93.
7/30/09 09:36:01 THE CENTER HAS NEVER BEEN
7/30/09 09:36:01 VANDALIZED.
7/30/09 09:36:04 SURE IT PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM
7/30/09 09:36:05 BREAKING AND ENTERING, BUT YOU
7/30/09 09:36:08 BREAK A WINDOW AND IT'S
7/30/09 09:36:09 EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE TO GET
7/30/09 09:36:09 REPLACED.
7/30/09 09:36:11 >> THIS COMES UP AT 10:30.
7/30/09 09:36:14 I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT THE
7/30/09 09:36:14 PUBLIC CAN'T SPEAK.
7/30/09 09:36:16 >> I DON'T THINK YOU CAN SPEAK
7/30/09 09:36:19 ON THE STAFF ITEMS UNLESS
7/30/09 09:36:20 COUNCIL HAS A QUESTION OR
7/30/09 09:36:23 SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE
7/30/09 09:36:25 OTHERWISE THERE IS NOT PUBLIC
7/30/09 09:36:25 COUNCIL.
7/30/09 09:36:25 >> RIGHT.
7/30/09 09:36:26 THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
7/30/09 09:36:28 >> COULD YOU GIVE THAT TO OUR
7/30/09 09:36:29 ATTORNEY SO WE CAN ALL GET
7/30/09 09:36:31 COPIES OF IT.
7/30/09 09:36:31 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 09:36:32 I'LL GIVE YOU TWO THINGS, THE
7/30/09 09:36:35 REPORT THAT THE AIR
7/30/09 09:36:35 CONDITIONING SUBCONTRACTOR
7/30/09 09:36:38 PREPARED AND THE E-MAIL FROM
7/30/09 09:36:39 MY
7/30/09 09:36:39 MECHANICAL ENGINEER.
7/30/09 09:36:42 >> BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HANG
7/30/09 09:36:44 AROUND, COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY
7/30/09 09:36:45 WANT TO RAISE A QUESTION, THEY
7/30/09 09:36:47 DO HAVE A RIGHT TO ASK
7/30/09 09:36:48 QUESTIONS OF ANYBODY.
7/30/09 09:36:50 >> AND THAT'S AT 10:30.
7/30/09 09:36:51 >> YES, SIR.
7/30/09 09:36:51 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 09:36:51 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:36:52 >> THAT'S ALL.
7/30/09 09:36:54 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IF
7/30/09 09:36:55 HE WANTED TO BE AROUND, HE
7/30/09 09:36:58 WANTED TO BE AROUND AT 10:30
7/30/09 09:37:00 WHEN THERE WAS DISCUSSION SO
7/30/09 09:37:01 THERE COULD BE MORE DIALOGUE.
7/30/09 09:37:04 THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I
7/30/09 09:37:05 WANTED THE CHAIRMAN TO DO.
7/30/09 09:37:08 WE COULD BRING IT UP FIRST
7/30/09 09:37:08 ITEMS.
7/30/09 09:37:10 I WANTED TO ASK QUESTIONS
7/30/09 09:37:11 REGARDING CALCULATIONS, WHO IS
7/30/09 09:37:13 PERMITS, WHO IS NOT, WHO IS
7/30/09 09:37:14 LICENSED, WHO IS NOT LICENSED,
7/30/09 09:37:17 HOW THE BID PROCESS WENT.
7/30/09 09:37:18 I WANT A FULL BLOWN THING.
7/30/09 09:37:20 I DON'T LIKE TO RECEIVE COPY
7/30/09 09:37:22 FROM ONE AND THEN ANOTHER AND
7/30/09 09:37:24 THE ADMINISTRATION AND NO ONE
7/30/09 09:37:25 IS HERE TO DEBATE EACH OTHER
7/30/09 09:37:27 AND AT THE END OF THE DAY WHAT
7/30/09 09:37:28 ARE WE TALKING ABOUT.
7/30/09 09:37:31 I LIKE TO SEE EYE TO EYE, FACE-
7/30/09 09:37:31 TO-FACE CONTACT.
7/30/09 09:37:33 THAT'S WHAT I LIKE.
7/30/09 09:37:33 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 09:37:36 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:37:39 >> NEXT
7/30/09 09:37:40 SPEAKER.
7/30/09 09:37:42 >> GOOD MORNING.
7/30/09 09:37:44 I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM
7/30/09 09:37:47 4 OF THE SPECIAL
7/30/09 09:37:47 EVENTS.
7/30/09 09:37:50 WE ARE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION
7/30/09 09:37:52 THAT SUPPORTS THE MUSEUM AS
7/30/09 09:37:55 WELL AS PRESERVE AND PROMOTE
7/30/09 09:37:58 THE CULTURAL HERITAGE OF
7/30/09 09:38:00 EBOR
7/30/09 09:38:00 CITY.
7/30/09 09:38:03 OUR MAIN FUND RAISING EVENT HAS
7/30/09 09:38:05 BEEN IN EXISTENCE PHOTOGRAPH A
7/30/09 09:38:06 DECADE NOW.
7/30/09 09:38:07 IT HAS A LONG HISTORY.
7/30/09 09:38:10 IT IS A FAMILY-FRIENDLY
7/30/09 09:38:11 EVENT
7/30/09 09:38:14 WITH TRADITIONALLY AT LEAST
7/30/09 09:38:15 5,000 ATTENDEES.
7/30/09 09:38:17 I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IN
7/30/09 09:38:18 THESE TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES,
7/30/09 09:38:19 THESE SPECIAL EVENTS ARE THE
7/30/09 09:38:22 LIFE BLOOD OF
7/30/09 09:38:23 THE DISTRICT.
7/30/09 09:38:24 THE ORDINANCE UNDER
7/30/09 09:38:25 CONSIDERATION INCREASES OUR
7/30/09 09:38:28 COSTS FOR SECURITY
7/30/09 09:38:31 EMT, SOLID
7/30/09 09:38:33 WASTE RECEPTACLE AT LEAST FOUR
7/30/09 09:38:35 TIMES AND IN SOME CASES MORE
7/30/09 09:38:38 THAN WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN
7/30/09 09:38:38 THE
7/30/09 09:38:38 PAST.
7/30/09 09:38:40 THE PROBLEM IS FURTHER
7/30/09 09:38:43 EXACERBATED BY ALL OF THE OTHER
7/30/09 09:38:45 COUNTY AND STATE REGULATIONS AS
7/30/09 09:38:46 YOU KNOW.
7/30/09 09:38:48 NOW, THIS YEAR, FISCAL YEAR
7/30/09 09:38:50 2009, WE RECEIVED A FUNDING CUT
7/30/09 09:38:52 FROM THE CITY OF 20%.
7/30/09 09:38:54 WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THE CITY
7/30/09 09:38:57 IS CUTTING OUR FUNDING
7/30/09 09:38:58 ANOTHER
7/30/09 09:39:00 20% IN 2010 AND IT'S SORT OF
7/30/09 09:39:03 ALMOST EMINENT AT THAT WE WILL
7/30/09 09:39:05 BE CUT ANOTHER 20% IN 2011.
7/30/09 09:39:09 SO THESE KINDS
7/30/09 09:39:12 OF FUNDING CUTS
7/30/09 09:39:15 --ONE WAY THAT WE'RE HOPING TO
7/30/09 09:39:18 CREATE MORE FUNDS IS THROUGH
7/30/09 09:39:20 FUND RAISING EVENTS LIKE THE
7/30/09 09:39:20 FESTIVAL.
7/30/09 09:39:22 BUT THE EFFECTS OF THIS
7/30/09 09:39:24 ORDINANCE AND THIS ONE SIZE
7/30/09 09:39:27 FITS ALL APPROACH IS BURDENSOME
7/30/09 09:39:29 TO US.
7/30/09 09:39:32 AS AN EXAMPLE, CIGAR
7/30/09 09:39:33 HERITAGE
7/30/09 09:39:35 FESTIVAL ENCOMPASSES A ONE-
7/30/09 09:39:36 BLOCK AREA.
7/30/09 09:39:37 IT'S NOT SPREAD OUT ALL OVER.
7/30/09 09:39:39 IN THIS ONE-BLOCK AREA,
7/30/09 09:39:40 ASSUMING WE GROW THE EVENT AND
7/30/09 09:39:43 WE DO WELL AND MAYBE IT GOES
7/30/09 09:39:46 FROM 5,000 TO 7500, WE WILL
7/30/09 09:39:49 NEED 15 SECURITY
7/30/09 09:39:51 OFFICERS, 30
7/30/09 09:39:54 WASTE RECEPTACLES, EMS IN THE
7/30/09 09:39:57 AMOUNT OF 8 AND 36
7/30/09 09:39:59 PORE AT THAT
7/30/09 09:39:59 LAVS.
7/30/09 09:40:01 I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE WOULD PUT
7/30/09 09:40:03 ALL OF THAT IN AN AREA THAT IS
7/30/09 09:40:04 FENCED.
7/30/09 09:40:06 WHAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO IS
7/30/09 09:40:08 CONSIDER THE FINANCIAL IMPACT
7/30/09 09:40:10 ON THIS ORDINANCE ON SMALL
7/30/09 09:40:12 NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE
7/30/09 09:40:15 OUR SELF WHO HOST CULTURAL
7/30/09 09:40:18 EVENTS, WHO HELP THE
7/30/09 09:40:19 CITY BRING
7/30/09 09:40:21 TOURISM AND ALSO HELP US FILL
7/30/09 09:40:24 IN THE
7/30/09 09:40:26 SHORTFALLS OF FUNDINGS.
7/30/09 09:40:29 I IT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
7/30/09 09:40:30 FOR
7/30/09 09:40:33 YOUR
7/30/09 09:40:34 CONSIDERATION.
7/30/09 09:40:36 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:40:36 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:40:37 NEXT SPEAKER.
7/30/09 09:40:40 >> MY NAME IS KERRY
7/30/09 09:40:42 KEMP.
7/30/09 09:40:45 MY ADDRESS IS 8805 CHINA BED
7/30/09 09:40:45 DRIVE, FLORIDA.
7/30/09 09:40:47 I DON'T WANT TO BEAT A DEAD
7/30/09 09:40:49 HORSE AND TALK ABOUT HOW THIS
7/30/09 09:40:51 IS AFFECTING PEOPLE THAT DON'T
7/30/09 09:40:52 HAVE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S
7/30/09 09:40:53 UNDERSTOOD THAT IT AFFECTS
7/30/09 09:40:54 THOSE THAT DO HAVE.
7/30/09 09:40:58 NEWSPAPERS MAKE THEIR MONEY
7/30/09 09:40:59 FROM AD REVENUE.
7/30/09 09:41:02 SUNDAY PAPER SALES FOR THE
7/30/09 09:41:04 TRIBUNE IS ROUGHLY 8,000 TO
7/30/09 09:41:06 10,000 THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
7/30/09 09:41:08 IF YOU REMOVE THOSE REVENUE
7/30/09 09:41:10 FROMMED ADS, NOT ONLY ARE THE
7/30/09 09:41:11 PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING THAT I
7/30/09 09:41:14 NEED TO MAKE THIS MONEY ON
7/30/09 09:41:16 SUNDAY, YOU'RE GOING TO COST
7/30/09 09:41:19 JOBS IN THE TRIBUNE AND ST.
7/30/09 09:41:20 PETES TIMES ALSO.
7/30/09 09:41:22 IN LOSING THAT, THAT'S MORE
7/30/09 09:41:25 REVENUE THAN THE CITY AND
7/30/09 09:41:28 EVERYTHING IS AFFECTED.
7/30/09 09:41:30 I KNOW THAT CONCERNS FOR SOME
7/30/09 09:41:32 THAT DON'T HAVE BUT IT ALSO
7/30/09 09:41:34 AFFECTS THOSE THAT DO.
7/30/09 09:41:37 ALSO I WANT IT NOTED AS FAR AS
7/30/09 09:41:39 SAFETY GOES, THERE'S A PREMIUM
7/30/09 09:41:40 PAID FOR A WEEKLY BASIS FOR THE
7/30/09 09:41:43 GUYS ON THE CORNERS THEMSELVES.
7/30/09 09:41:46 SO IF THEY'RE INJURED, THERE'S
7/30/09 09:41:48 ACCIDENTAL MEMBER,
7/30/09 09:41:51 DISMEMBERMENT AND SO FAR, THE
7/30/09 09:41:53 GENTLEMAN WHO FELL WHEN HE WAS
7/30/09 09:41:55 WALKING ON THE MEDIAN, HE WENT
7/30/09 09:41:56 TO THE HOSPITAL AND THE
7/30/09 09:41:57 INSURANCE TOOK CARE OF THAT.
7/30/09 09:41:59 IF YOU GET HURT IT'S NOT LIKE
7/30/09 09:42:00 TOO BAD.
7/30/09 09:42:01 THERE IS COVERAGE THAT IS
7/30/09 09:42:03 PROVIDED AND IT'S PROVIDED FOR
7/30/09 09:42:04 THE ENTIRE WEEK.
7/30/09 09:42:06 I JUST HOPE YOU ALL WHEN YOU'RE
7/30/09 09:42:08 MAKING YOUR DECISIONS YOU'RE
7/30/09 09:42:09 LOOKING AT, WELL, WE WON'T TAKE
7/30/09 09:42:11 IT FROM THEM, BUT WE'LL TAKE
7/30/09 09:42:14 AWAY SOME OF THEIR SALES SO
7/30/09 09:42:15 THAT THEY WILL STOP SELLING.
7/30/09 09:42:16 IT'S GOING TO AFFECT MORE THAN
7/30/09 09:42:19 JUST THOSE ON THE
7/30/09 09:42:20 STREET.
7/30/09 09:42:23 ALSO, IF YOU COULD,
7/30/09 09:42:25 SOME OF
7/30/09 09:42:26 TAMPA POLICE FINEST SEE IF THEY
7/30/09 09:42:28 WANT THIS ITEM TO GO AWAY.
7/30/09 09:42:30 IT'S GOING TO CAUSE THEM A
7/30/09 09:42:32 WHOLE LOT MORE HEADACHE, I CAN
7/30/09 09:42:34 PROMISE YOU.
7/30/09 09:42:37 >> THANK
7/30/09 09:42:40 YOU,
7/30/09 09:42:40 SIR.
7/30/09 09:42:41 NEXT SPEAKER.
7/30/09 09:42:43 >> I WANTED TO SPEAK TO NUMBER
7/30/09 09:42:46 4 ITEM ON THE AGENDA, THE
7/30/09 09:42:46 SPECIAL EVENTS ORDINANCE.
7/30/09 09:42:47 I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND
7/30/09 09:42:50 EFFORT THAT THE CITY HAS
7/30/09 09:42:52 PUT
7/30/09 09:42:53 INTO THAT.
7/30/09 09:42:55 I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
7/30/09 09:42:56 IT'S BEEN OPERATING THAT WAY.
7/30/09 09:42:58 I THINK THERE'S SOME ISSUES AS
7/30/09 09:42:59 WE IMPLEMENT THIS OVER THE NEXT
7/30/09 09:43:02 YEAR THAT WE WILL HOPEFULLY GET
7/30/09 09:43:03 SUPPORT FROM COUNCIL ON THAT
7/30/09 09:43:04 IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME TO WORK
7/30/09 09:43:05 THROUGH ALL OF THIS.
7/30/09 09:43:07 WE HAVE CHARTS AND THINGS THAT
7/30/09 09:43:09 HAVE BEEN INFLUENCED AT THE
7/30/09 09:43:12 STATE LEVEL, LIKE THE
7/30/09 09:43:14 NUMBER OF
7/30/09 09:43:14 PORTA-POTTIES.
7/30/09 09:43:16 SOME OF THOSE THINGS DON'T MAKE
7/30/09 09:43:19 A LOT OF
7/30/09 09:43:20 SENSE.
7/30/09 09:43:21 THEY NEED INTERPRETATION.
7/30/09 09:43:23 I THINK MOST IMPORTANT THING
7/30/09 09:43:25 THAT I HAVE SEEN IN TERMS OF
7/30/09 09:43:26 NEGOTIATING WITH POLICE AND
7/30/09 09:43:27 EMERGENCY IS THAT THEY BE
7/30/09 09:43:29 ALLOWED TO LOOK AT DEPLOYMENT.
7/30/09 09:43:31 THAT DURING --LIKE, FOR
7/30/09 09:43:33 EXAMPLE, OUR DAYTIME EVENT IS A
7/30/09 09:43:35 FAMILY FRIENDLY EVENT.
7/30/09 09:43:36 THAT SHOULD BE A LOW
7/30/09 09:43:38 DEPLOYMENT, NOT BASED ON THE
7/30/09 09:43:40 PEAK OF THE EVENT.
7/30/09 09:43:42 THERE NEEDS TO BE RATIONALITY
7/30/09 09:43:43 AS WE GO FORWARD.
7/30/09 09:43:45 I THINK MY DISCUSSIONS WITH
7/30/09 09:43:47 CITY STAFF, PEOPLE REALIZE THAT
7/30/09 09:43:49 DEPLOYMENT IS THE KEY.
7/30/09 09:43:51 WE SHOULD DEPLOY AT THE PEAK
7/30/09 09:43:53 TIMES, THE PEAK LAW ENFORCEMENT
7/30/09 09:43:55 AND EMERGENCY SERVICES PEOPLE.
7/30/09 09:43:57 AND I THINK THAT WE ALL HAVE TO
7/30/09 09:43:58 BE REAL CAUTION ABOUT IT
7/30/09 09:44:00 LOADING UP BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR
7/30/09 09:44:01 SPECIAL EVENTS ARE REACHING THE
7/30/09 09:44:04 POINT WHERE THEY'RE NOT GOING
7/30/09 09:44:06 TO BE PROFITABLE ANY MORE OR
7/30/09 09:44:08 CONTRIBUTE TO THE
7/30/09 09:44:09 ORGANIZATIONS.
7/30/09 09:44:12 IT'S NEVER BECAUSE OF SPONSOR
7/30/09 09:44:13 SHIPS OR ATTENDANCE.
7/30/09 09:44:14 CITY CROSSES A MAJOR ISSUE.
7/30/09 09:44:16 WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.
7/30/09 09:44:18 I THINK THERE IS COMPETENT
7/30/09 09:44:19 STAFF IN THIS AREA BUT I THINK
7/30/09 09:44:21 WE NEED TO LOOK AT THESE
7/30/09 09:44:22 THINGS.
7/30/09 09:44:25 WE DON'T WANT TO PUT PEOPLE OUT
7/30/09 09:44:25 OF BUSINESS.
7/30/09 09:44:28 I THINK WE JUST NEED TO KEEP
7/30/09 09:44:30 DISCUSSING THINGS AND LOOKING
7/30/09 09:44:31 AT THEM.
7/30/09 09:44:32 CODIFYING THEM DOESN'T WORK OUT
7/30/09 09:44:34 ALL OF THE BUGS.
7/30/09 09:44:36 A LOT OF EFFORT HAS GONE INTO
7/30/09 09:44:36 THIS.
7/30/09 09:44:37 IT'S GOING TO TAKE A YEAR OR
7/30/09 09:44:41 TWO TO WORK OUT HOW IT GETS
7/30/09 09:44:41 IMPLEMENTED.
7/30/09 09:44:43 WE ARE UNDER TREMENDOUS
7/30/09 09:44:44 FINANCIAL PRESSURE RIGHT NOW,
7/30/09 09:44:45 AND I WANT YOU ALL TO
7/30/09 09:44:46 APPRECIATE AATE THAT FROM THE
7/30/09 09:44:48 STANDPOINT OF WORKING WITH THE
7/30/09 09:44:49 EVENTS DEPARTMENT.
7/30/09 09:44:52 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT
7/30/09 09:44:53 COMMENT.
7/30/09 09:44:54 IT'S ABOUT DEPLOYMENT SO WE CAN
7/30/09 09:44:57 DEPLOY THE PEAK RESOURCES AT
7/30/09 09:44:59 THE PEAK TIME.
7/30/09 09:45:00 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:45:00 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 09:45:03 THANK YOU VERY
7/30/09 09:45:03 MUCH.
7/30/09 09:45:04 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 09:45:06 THAT INCLUDES OUR PUBLIC
7/30/09 09:45:06 COMMENT TIME.
7/30/09 09:45:08 LET ME ENTER INTO THE RECORD
7/30/09 09:45:11 THIS MORNING A MEMORANDUM
7/30/09 09:45:12 FROM
7/30/09 09:45:12 JOHN DINGFELDER.
7/30/09 09:45:15 CHAIR SCOTT, I WILL BE OUT FROM
7/30/09 09:45:18 JULY
7/30/09 09:45:21 30th,
7/30/09 09:45:24 2009
7/30/09 09:45:24 MEETING.
7/30/09 09:45:25 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:45:27 IS ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO
7/30/09 09:45:30 ASK FOR A RECONSIDERATION
7/30/09 09:45:33 OF A
7/30/09 09:45:33 LEGISLATIVE MATTER?
7/30/09 09:45:35 RECONSIDERATION ON A
7/30/09 09:45:35 LEGISLATIVE MATTER.
7/30/09 09:45:35 OKAY.
7/30/09 09:45:38 THEN WE WILL MOVE TO
7/30/09 09:45:39 THE
7/30/09 09:45:39 ORDINANCE.
7/30/09 09:45:42 NUMBER 2, ITEM
7/30/09 09:45:42 NUMBER 2.
7/30/09 09:45:45 PRESENTED FOR THE FIRST
7/30/09 09:45:45 READING.
7/30/09 09:45:47 >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
7/30/09 09:45:48 PARKS AND RECREATIONS DIRECTOR.
7/30/09 09:45:51 I'M HERE ON ITEM 2, 3
7/30/09 09:45:52 AND 4.
7/30/09 09:45:53 I'LL ADDRESS 2 FIRST.
7/30/09 09:45:56 I JUST WANT TO FRAME THE NEXT
7/30/09 09:45:58 COUPLE OF ITEMS FOR EVERYONE.
7/30/09 09:45:59 THESE ORDINANCES WE HAVE BEEN
7/30/09 09:46:01 WORKING THROUGH WITH THE PARKS
7/30/09 09:46:02 AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND
7/30/09 09:46:03 MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS
7/30/09 09:46:05 THROUGHOUT THE CITY ON COMING
7/30/09 09:46:07 TOGETHER ALL 7 ORDINANCES THAT
7/30/09 09:46:09 REALLY GOVERN THE PARKS AND
7/30/09 09:46:11 RECREATION DEPARTMENT AS A
7/30/09 09:46:11 WHOLE.
7/30/09 09:46:13 SO WHILE YOU'RE SEEING THREE OF
7/30/09 09:46:15 THEM COME TOGETHER TODAY IS THE
7/30/09 09:46:16 FACT THAT THEY'RE INTERTWINED
7/30/09 09:46:19 AND AAS THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED
7/30/09 09:46:21 EARLIER, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS
7/30/09 09:46:23 OF CODIFYING WHAT WE'RE DOING
7/30/09 09:46:25 IN THE CURRENT OPERATIONS.
7/30/09 09:46:28 WE'RE PLEASED TO PRESENT THEM
7/30/09 09:46:29 TO YOU TODAY.
7/30/09 09:46:31 THIS HAS TRULY BEEN A TEAM
7/30/09 09:46:32 EFFORT ACROSS THE ENTIRE
7/30/09 09:46:33 SIGNATURE EORGANIZATION AND ALL
7/30/09 09:46:34 OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
7/30/09 09:46:36 I WANT TO MAKE A MENTION OF
7/30/09 09:46:38 THOSE FOLKS RIGHT NOW AND THANK
7/30/09 09:46:39 THEM.
7/30/09 09:46:40 FROM THE OPPOSITE NEIGHBORHOOD
7/30/09 09:46:41 AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS, OUR
7/30/09 09:46:44 TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR
7/30/09 09:46:46 RISK MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT,
7/30/09 09:46:48 FIRE DEPARTMENT, SOLID WASTE,
7/30/09 09:46:49 ECONOMIC AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT
7/30/09 09:46:50 DEPARTMENT, OUR LEGAL
7/30/09 09:46:51 DEPARTMENT AND OF COURSE MY
7/30/09 09:46:54 OWN, MY PARKS AND RECREATION.
7/30/09 09:46:56 THIS HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS
7/30/09 09:46:57 EFFORT TO PULL THE PIECES
7/30/09 09:46:59 TOGETHER AND THEY HAVE DONE A
7/30/09 09:46:59 FANTASTIC JOB.
7/30/09 09:47:01 AND I HOPE YOU'RE PLEASED WITH
7/30/09 09:47:02 9 THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE
7/30/09 09:47:03 PRESENTING THIS MORNING.
7/30/09 09:47:05 ITEM NUMBER 2 IS THE FIRST ITEM
7/30/09 09:47:08 AND I WILL SHARE REGARDING
7/30/09 09:47:10 CHAPTER 3, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
7/30/09 09:47:13 THE REVISIONS THAT ARE IN HERE
7/30/09 09:47:15 ARE SPECIFIC TO REALLY CLEANING
7/30/09 09:47:17 UP THE LANGUAGE SO IT MATCHES
7/30/09 09:47:19 FROM WHAT WAS THE OLD TERM OF
7/30/09 09:47:22 WET ZONING TO THE SPECIAL USE
7/30/09 09:47:22 PERMIT.
7/30/09 09:47:23 IT ALSO ACKNOWLEDGES THAT
7/30/09 09:47:26 ACTUALLY ON THE DEDICATED PARKS
7/30/09 09:47:28 LIST, THE PARK PLAZA IS THE
7/30/09 09:47:32 NAME BUT WE CALL IT
7/30/09 09:47:32 HIGHLY
7/30/09 09:47:34 GARDENS THESE DAYS.
7/30/09 09:47:36 WE RENAMED WHAT WAS THE
7/30/09 09:47:37 WATERFRONT PARK AREA.
7/30/09 09:47:38 IT SAID WATERFRONT IN THE
7/30/09 09:47:38 ORDINANCE.
7/30/09 09:47:40 WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THAT AS
7/30/09 09:47:42 CURTIS 6 AND WATER FRONT PARK.
7/30/09 09:47:45 WE DELETED ALL OF THE
7/30/09 09:47:47 OBSOLETE
7/30/09 09:47:47 PROVISIONS.
7/30/09 09:47:50 SO ONE ADDITION TO BRING TO
7/30/09 09:47:50 EVERYONE'S ATTENTION.
7/30/09 09:47:52 THERE WAS A REQUEST THAT CAME
7/30/09 09:47:55 OUT MANY, MANY MOONS AGO AND
7/30/09 09:47:57 THE CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE USING
7/30/09 09:47:58 THE GARDEN CENTER FOR THE
7/30/09 09:48:00 OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A SPECIAL
7/30/09 09:48:03 PROVISION TO ALLOW ALCOHOL
7/30/09 09:48:05 DURING THOSE EVENTS.
7/30/09 09:48:06 IF SOMEONE WAS HAVING A WEDDING
7/30/09 09:48:09 RECEPTION, THAT THEY COULD
7/30/09 09:48:12 POTENTIALLY USE
7/30/09 09:48:14 A LICENSED
7/30/09 09:48:15 CATERER AND HAVE ALCOHOL
7/30/09 09:48:17 THROUGH THAT CATERER ON THE
7/30/09 09:48:17 PROPERTIES.
7/30/09 09:48:18 WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE
7/30/09 09:48:20 PROPERTIES IN THE ORDINANCE AND
7/30/09 09:48:23 HAVE PRESENTED
7/30/09 09:48:26 THOSE FOR
7/30/09 09:48:27 REVISION.
7/30/09 09:48:27 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 09:48:28 ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
7/30/09 09:48:30 ARE YOU GOING TO ADDRESS THE
7/30/09 09:48:33 CONCERN ON ITEM 4? I THINK
7/30/09 09:48:36 WE
7/30/09 09:48:39 HEARD FROM EBOR
7/30/09 09:48:39 CITY.
7/30/09 09:48:43 DO YOU WANT TO
7/30/09 09:48:43 ADDRESS ITEM 4.
7/30/09 09:48:45 >> WHY DON'T WE TAKE ONE AT A
7/30/09 09:48:45 TIME.
7/30/09 09:48:48 >> DID WE WANT TO DO ONE AT A
7/30/09 09:48:48 TIME.
7/30/09 09:48:49 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 09:48:52 WE'RE ON ITEM 2 FOR JUST THE
7/30/09 09:48:53 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
7/30/09 09:48:53 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 09:48:54 ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM 2?
7/30/09 09:48:55 >> NO.
7/30/09 09:48:58 I JUST WANT TO MAKE A
7/30/09 09:48:58 STATEMENT.
7/30/09 09:49:01 >> YES.
7/30/09 09:49:01 >> COUNCILMAN CAETANO.
7/30/09 09:49:04 >> I SEE WE
7/30/09 09:49:07 DON'T HAVE A NEW
7/30/09 09:49:09 PARK FOR NEW TAMPA.
7/30/09 09:49:11 THERE WOULD BE NO ALCOHOL
7/30/09 09:49:11 THERE.
7/30/09 09:49:14 >> IT IS AN ATHLETIC FACILITY.
7/30/09 09:49:16 THAT IS WHY IT IS NOT LOCATED
7/30/09 09:49:16 IN THE FACILITY.
7/30/09 09:49:18 THESE ARE THE EVENT FACILITY.
7/30/09 09:49:20 >> ALL OF THE OTHERS THAT ARE
7/30/09 09:49:23 UNDER HERE ON ITEM B, THEY'RE
7/30/09 09:49:24 ALL ATHLETIC FACILITIES.
7/30/09 09:49:26 >> THE ONE THAT'S ARE ON THERE
7/30/09 09:49:28 ARE ALL OF OUR EVENTS
7/30/09 09:49:29 FACILITIES PRIMARILY WHERE MOST
7/30/09 09:49:31 OF THE EVENTS ARE HELD.
7/30/09 09:49:34 THEY'RE
7/30/09 09:49:36 NOT TYPICAL WITH --
7/30/09 09:49:39 HEINZ COMPLEX IS NOT
7/30/09 09:49:40 ON THERE.
7/30/09 09:49:43 ATHLETICS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT
7/30/09 09:49:45 TYPICALLY WE HAVE MIXED.
7/30/09 09:49:47 >> ARE WE GOING TO BE BUILDING
7/30/09 09:49:48 ANOTHER FACILITY SO PEOPLE IN
7/30/09 09:49:50 ANOTHER PART OF THE CITY CAN
7/30/09 09:49:52 HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY AS
7/30/09 09:49:53 OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
7/30/09 09:49:56 >> FOR AN EVENTS
7/30/09 09:49:57 FACILITY.
7/30/09 09:49:58 ARE WE CURRENTLY?
7/30/09 09:50:01 THERE IS NOTHING ON THE BOOKS
7/30/09 09:50:02 AT THE MOMENT.
7/30/09 09:50:04 OBVIOUSLY AS THINGS ARE
7/30/09 09:50:05 EXPECTED TO GROW, WE HAVE HAD
7/30/09 09:50:08 SOME ADDITIONAL PARKS ON THE
7/30/09 09:50:09 LISTINGS.
7/30/09 09:50:12 BUT RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOT
7/30/09 09:50:15 ANYTHING
7/30/09 09:50:19 CURRENTLY SLATED.
7/30/09 09:50:22 >> THERE ARE ONLY A FEW PARK
7/30/09 09:50:24 THAT'S ARE IN THE ALCOHOL ZONE.
7/30/09 09:50:25 ONE IS REGULAR ON PARK.
7/30/09 09:50:26 >> YES.
7/30/09 09:50:28 >> BECAUSE IT HAS NO ATHLETIC
7/30/09 09:50:29 FACILITIES TO SPEAK OF.
7/30/09 09:50:29 >> CORRECT.
7/30/09 09:50:32 >> I REMEMBER THAT MY
7/30/09 09:50:33 MOTHER
7/30/09 09:50:36 HAD HER SHOWER
7/30/09 09:50:39 THERE BACK WHEN
7/30/09 09:50:41 MOBY DICK WAS A MINUTE OWE HE
7/30/09 09:50:43 AND THE COST WAS $10.
7/30/09 09:50:45 IT WAS HARD TO FIND THE $10 AT
7/30/09 09:50:45 THE TIME.
7/30/09 09:50:48 I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE IN.
7/30/09 09:50:49 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
7/30/09 09:50:52 >> I WILL MOVE THE
7/30/09 09:50:52 ORDINANCE.
7/30/09 09:50:53 >> SECOND.
7/30/09 09:50:55 >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE INTO
7/30/09 09:50:56 THE ORDINANCE MAKING REVISIONS
7/30/09 09:50:58 TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES
7/30/09 09:51:01 CHAPTER 3 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES
7/30/09 09:51:03 AMENDING SECTION 3-41 DEALING
7/30/09 09:51:05 WITH POSSESSION OR CONSUMPTION
7/30/09 09:51:07 OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ON
7/30/09 09:51:08 PROPERTY OPERATED OR SUPERVISED
7/30/09 09:51:10 BY PARKS AND RECREATION
7/30/09 09:51:12 DEPARTMENT PROVIDING FOR APPEAL
7/30/09 09:51:15 OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT,
7/30/09 09:51:16 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
7/30/09 09:51:18 >> MOVER AND SECOND.
7/30/09 09:51:21 SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER
7/30/09 09:51:21 MIRANDA.
7/30/09 09:51:24 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
7/30/09 09:51:27 >> MOTION
7/30/09 09:51:29 CARRIED WITH
7/30/09 09:51:32 DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT
7/30/09 09:51:35 VOTE.
7/30/09 09:51:36 >> ITEM 3.
7/30/09 09:51:37 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 09:51:38 THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
7/30/09 09:51:40 ITEM 3 IS CHAPTER 16.
7/30/09 09:51:43 AGAIN WHAT WE HAVE
7/30/09 09:51:45 DONE IS
7/30/09 09:51:46 RESTRUCTURED 16.
7/30/09 09:51:48 PARKS AND RECREATION WERE TWO
7/30/09 09:51:49 SEPARATE DEPARTMENTS, WE HAD
7/30/09 09:51:50 TWO SEPARATE RULES AND
7/30/09 09:51:52 PROCEDURES OUT THERE IN OUR
7/30/09 09:51:53 FACILITIES.
7/30/09 09:51:54 WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE
7/30/09 09:51:56 OVERALL ORDINANCE, CLEANED ALL
7/30/09 09:51:57 OF THAT UP AND I WILL SHARE
7/30/09 09:52:00 WITH YOU THE SIGNIFICANT
7/30/09 09:52:00 REVISIONS.
7/30/09 09:52:02 THROUGH ARTICLE ONE, WE HAVE
7/30/09 09:52:03 ADDED DUTIES OF DIRECTOR AND
7/30/09 09:52:05 MATCHED THAT WITH THE TAMPA
7/30/09 09:52:07 POLICE DEPARTMENT SO THAT THE
7/30/09 09:52:07 INFORMATION WAS CONSISTENT.
7/30/09 09:52:10 WE HAVE ADDED OUR BACKGROUND
7/30/09 09:52:11 SCREENING REQUIREMENTS SO THEY
7/30/09 09:52:13 KNOW WHAT THOSE STREAMING
7/30/09 09:52:13 REQUIREMENTS WILL BE TO
7/30/09 09:52:15 PARTICIPATE ON THE PROPERTIES.
7/30/09 09:52:16 AND WE HAVE ELIMINATE WHAT HAD
7/30/09 09:52:18 WAS CURRENTLY IDENTIFIED AS THE
7/30/09 09:52:19 DIRECTOR RULES THAT I MENTIONED
7/30/09 09:52:22 FROM THE TWO SEPARATE
7/30/09 09:52:23 DEPARTMENTS.
7/30/09 09:52:25 UNDER ARTICLE 2, WE DEFINED OUR
7/30/09 09:52:26 MORE EFFICIENT PROCESS TO MAKE
7/30/09 09:52:29 IT MUCH EASIER FOR THE
7/30/09 09:52:30 COMMUNITY.
7/30/09 09:52:33 IT INCLUDES OUR SPECIAL EVENT
7/30/09 09:52:34 PROCESS EVENT FORESTS THAT ARE
7/30/09 09:52:37 LESS THAN 200 IN ATTENDANCE.
7/30/09 09:52:39 THAT WILL CORRELATE WITH THE
7/30/09 09:52:40 CHAPTER 28 ORDINANCE THAT WE
7/30/09 09:52:42 WILL BE PRESENTING.
7/30/09 09:52:45 IT INCLUDES CLEAN-UP OF ALL OF
7/30/09 09:52:47 THE MISCELLANEOUS PERMITS.
7/30/09 09:52:49 SO IT'S ALL CLEARLY LAID OUT.
7/30/09 09:52:51 PROVIDES A CONSISTENT PROCESS
7/30/09 09:52:53 AND APPEALS PROCESS AS WELL.
7/30/09 09:52:55 AND PROVIDES FOR A PERMIT USE
7/30/09 09:52:56 INSTEAD OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN
7/30/09 09:52:58 USING IN THE PAST AS A LEASE
7/30/09 09:52:58 AGREEMENT.
7/30/09 09:53:01 SO IT CLEANS UP THAT AND MAKES
7/30/09 09:53:02 IT CONSISTENT ACROSS OUR
7/30/09 09:53:02 ORGANIZATION.
7/30/09 09:53:04 AND WE HAVE ADDED ALL OF THE
7/30/09 09:53:06 REQUIRED LIABILITY FROM OUR
7/30/09 09:53:07 RISK MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.
7/30/09 09:53:08 THAT'S CLEARLY IDENTIFIED FOR
7/30/09 09:53:10 ANY OF OUR USERS.
7/30/09 09:53:12 UNDER ARTICLE 3, WE HAVE ADDED
7/30/09 09:53:15 FACILITIES AND ACTIVITIES AND
7/30/09 09:53:18 IT ESTABLISHES PROHIBITED AND
7/30/09 09:53:18 NONPROHIBITTED ACTIVITIES AND
7/30/09 09:53:21 THE AREAS THAT WE WOULD ALLOW
7/30/09 09:53:21 THEM.
7/30/09 09:53:22 PROVIDE THE LANGUAGE TO MATCH
7/30/09 09:53:24 WITH 3, ALLOWING ALCOHOL AT THE
7/30/09 09:53:27 TWO BUILDINGS ONLY, THE PILOT
7/30/09 09:53:28 PROGRAM, THE RENTAL PILOT
7/30/09 09:53:31 PROGRAM THAT I MENTIONED
7/30/09 09:53:31 EARLIER.
7/30/09 09:53:33 IT ADDS THE FISHING AND
7/30/09 09:53:34 CRABBING REGULATIONS UNDER
7/30/09 09:53:37 OFFENSES AND IT
7/30/09 09:53:40 REMOVES SITE
7/30/09 09:53:40 LISTINGS.
7/30/09 09:53:42 AND THE LAST ITEM IN THAT
7/30/09 09:53:45 PARTICULAR PIECE PROHIBITS
7/30/09 09:53:48 SMOKING
7/30/09 09:53:51 FOR USE ATHLETIC
7/30/09 09:53:53 ACTIVITIES.
7/30/09 09:53:55 SO THE ATHLETIC EVENTS WILL NOT
7/30/09 09:53:57 ALLOW SMOKING AT THOSE EVENTS.
7/30/09 09:53:59 THERE IS A DESIGNATED AREA THAT
7/30/09 09:54:01 WILL ALLOW THAT BUT ASIDE FROM
7/30/09 09:54:04 THE SPACE WHERE
7/30/09 09:54:07 THE YOUTH
7/30/09 09:54:09 ATHLETICS ARE PARTICIPATING.
7/30/09 09:54:12 WITH THE REGULATION OF OUR
7/30/09 09:54:15 SLIPS AND
7/30/09 09:54:15 MARINAS.
7/30/09 09:54:17 THAT IS MARRYING OURSELVES WITH
7/30/09 09:54:18 THE FLORIDA STATUTE SO WE'RE
7/30/09 09:54:20 NOT IN CONTRADICTION OF THAT.
7/30/09 09:54:21 WE FOLLOWED THROUGH AS WE HAD
7/30/09 09:54:24 TALKED TO COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY
7/30/09 09:54:24 ABOUT THAT.
7/30/09 09:54:27 WE MOVED THE
7/30/09 09:54:30 WATER
7/30/09 09:54:31 TAXI INTO
7/30/09 09:54:31 NUMBER 14.
7/30/09 09:54:33 THAT KEEPS IT IN THE PARKS AND
7/30/09 09:54:34 RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
7/30/09 09:54:37 NO CHANGES IN 4, WHICH IS TREE
7/30/09 09:54:37 TRUST FUNDS.
7/30/09 09:54:39 NO CHANGES --THERE IS ONE
7/30/09 09:54:42 MINOR CHANGES IN THE DEDICATED
7/30/09 09:54:42 PARKS.
7/30/09 09:54:45 THOSE ARE NOW
7/30/09 09:54:45 USF PARKS.
7/30/09 09:54:48 AND McDILL PARK ON THE
7/30/09 09:54:49 RIVER
7/30/09 09:54:49 WALK.
7/30/09 09:54:50 AND IN ARTICLE 8 UNDER
7/30/09 09:54:52 DEFINITIONS, WE HAVE ADDED ALL
7/30/09 09:54:53 THE NECESSARY DEFINITIONS.
7/30/09 09:54:54 SO IT'S CLEAR WHAT WE'RE SAYING
7/30/09 09:54:56 THOSE ITEMS ARE AND WHAT THEY
7/30/09 09:54:59 MEAN THROUGHOUT THE
7/30/09 09:54:59 ORDINANCE.
7/30/09 09:55:01 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 09:55:02 QUESTION, COUNCIL SAUL-SENA.
7/30/09 09:55:02 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 09:55:04 DID YOU SPEAK WITH PEOPLE THAT
7/30/09 09:55:05 WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THIS
7/30/09 09:55:08 BEFORE BRINGING THIS TO
7/30/09 09:55:09 US.
7/30/09 09:55:09 >> FOR CHAPTER 16.
7/30/09 09:55:10 >> YES.
7/30/09 09:55:11 >> THESE ARE THE RULES AND
7/30/09 09:55:14 PROCEDURES THAT ARE OUT THERE
7/30/09 09:55:14 NOW.
7/30/09 09:55:16 FOLKS THAT USE OUR FACILITIES,
7/30/09 09:55:17 WE HAVE LIST EASTBOUNDED TO
7/30/09 09:55:20 THOSE, LIKE THE FISHING
7/30/09 09:55:23 AND
7/30/09 09:55:26 CRABBING, TRYING TO ORGANIZE
7/30/09 09:55:27 THINGS BETTER.
7/30/09 09:55:29 SAME THING, TRYING TO PUT
7/30/09 09:55:31 EVERYTHING UNDER THE ONE
7/30/09 09:55:31 UMBRELLA.
7/30/09 09:55:32 RIGHT NOW IF YOU WERE TO BUILD
7/30/09 09:55:35 WITH A LEASE AGREEMENT, IF YOU
7/30/09 09:55:38 WERE IN A PARKS BUILDING, IT
7/30/09 09:55:38 WAS A PERMIT.
7/30/09 09:55:41 SO ALL OF THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE
7/30/09 09:55:42 CURRENTLY USING OUR FACILITIES
7/30/09 09:55:43 ARE FOLLOWING UNDER THIS
7/30/09 09:55:46 GUIDELINE AND
7/30/09 09:55:46 THIS CODIFIES
7/30/09 09:55:48 WHAT WE ARE DOING.
7/30/09 09:55:51 >> IF SOMEONE WANTED TO RUN A
7/30/09 09:55:53 SHELTER FOR A BIRTHDAY PARTY --
7/30/09 09:55:55 >> YES, THAT WAS OUR ULTIMATE
7/30/09 09:55:57 GOAL, TO PUT SOMETHING CUSTOMER
7/30/09 09:55:59 FRIENDLY FOR FOLKS SO IT WAS
7/30/09 09:55:59 EASY TO PULL THIS INFORMATION
7/30/09 09:56:01 UP INTO THE WEBSITE.
7/30/09 09:56:03 WE WILL EVENTUALLY BE ABLE TO
7/30/09 09:56:04 DO THIS ONLINE.
7/30/09 09:56:05 SO EVENTUALLY WE WILL BE ABLE
7/30/09 09:56:08 TO GO IN AND BOOK YOUR RENTALS
7/30/09 09:56:09 AND THINGS ONLINE.
7/30/09 09:56:10 NOT YET BUT SOON.
7/30/09 09:56:13 WE ARE WORKING WITH IT ON THAT
7/30/09 09:56:14 RIGHT NOW.
7/30/09 09:56:16 THAT'S PROBABLY A 12 TO 18-
7/30/09 09:56:17 MONTH WINDOW AWAY.
7/30/09 09:56:19 >> THE DEGREE THAT WE CAN BE
7/30/09 09:56:21 CUSTOMER FRIENDLY, THIS IS ALL
7/30/09 09:56:21 TO THE GOOD.
7/30/09 09:56:23 WHEN YOU BRING UP THE WATER
7/30/09 09:56:24 TAXI REGULATIONS TO HAVE A
7/30/09 09:56:27 MEETING WITH THE
7/30/09 09:56:28 IMPACTED
7/30/09 09:56:28 PEOPLE.
7/30/09 09:56:29 KAREN HAS A GOOD LIST OF PEOPLE
7/30/09 09:56:31 THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED PRIOR TO
7/30/09 09:56:33 BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL SO
7/30/09 09:56:34 EVERYBODY IS CLEAR ON WHAT IS
7/30/09 09:56:36 BEING PROPOSED AND YOU HAVE
7/30/09 09:56:37 CHANCE FOR DIALOGUE.
7/30/09 09:56:39 >> WE HAVE HAD MANY DISCUSSION
7/30/09 09:56:41 WITH CAPTAINS, WE HAVE TALKED
7/30/09 09:56:43 WITH THE BOAT OWNS AND SUCH.
7/30/09 09:56:44 SO WE HAVE BEEN PULLING ALL OF
7/30/09 09:56:46 THAT INFORMATION TO REALLY PUSH
7/30/09 09:56:50 THIS ORDINANCE TOGETHER
7/30/09 09:56:50 PROPERLY.
7/30/09 09:56:50 >> GREAT.
7/30/09 09:56:51 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:56:54 >> THANK YOU, MR.
7/30/09 09:56:54 CHAIRMAN.
7/30/09 09:56:56 I FULLY UNDERSTAND AND SUPPORT
7/30/09 09:56:58 WHAT MISS PAUL IS BRINGING HERE
7/30/09 09:57:00 IN ITEM NUMBER 3. I WOULD BE
7/30/09 09:57:03 REMISED HOWEVER TO SAY THAT
7/30/09 09:57:05 THROUGH THE YEARS WE HAVE
7/30/09 09:57:07 NEGLECTED PARTS OF THE WEST
7/30/09 09:57:10 SHORE MARINA --I MEAN THE
7/30/09 09:57:11 BAYSHORE MARINA.
7/30/09 09:57:13 AND THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE
7/30/09 09:57:15 ADDRESSED BY BOTH SIDES OF THIS
7/30/09 09:57:16 GOVERNMENT TO FIX THAT.
7/30/09 09:57:19 AND I HAVE A GREAT CONCERN
7/30/09 09:57:21 ABOUT WHAT YOU MENTIONED AT
7/30/09 09:57:21 RIVER WALK.
7/30/09 09:57:23 I WOULD CERTAINLY HOPE IF THOSE
7/30/09 09:57:24 --IF THE RIVER WALK IS GOING
7/30/09 09:57:27 TO HAVE
7/30/09 09:57:30 ANY TYPES OF SLIPS,
7/30/09 09:57:32 THAT THEY BE HELD FOR PUBLIC
7/30/09 09:57:32 USE.
7/30/09 09:57:35 ANYBODY CAN USE THEM.
7/30/09 09:57:36 BUT CERTAINLY WE HAD A WAITING
7/30/09 09:57:38 LIST --I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS
7/30/09 09:57:39 STILL ACTIVE.
7/30/09 09:57:39 >> YES, WE DO.
7/30/09 09:57:41 >> THAT'S ONE OF THE FEW
7/30/09 09:57:43 INDUSTRIES THAT TODAY UNDER BAD
7/30/09 09:57:45 ECONOMIC SITUATION STILL HAS A
7/30/09 09:57:47 LIST FOR SOMEONE WILLING TO PAY
7/30/09 09:57:47 TO GET IN.
7/30/09 09:57:49 WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE
7/30/09 09:57:50 FACILITIES FOR THEM TO GET
7/30/09 09:57:50 INTO.
7/30/09 09:57:52 SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE
7/30/09 09:57:53 THAT BEING WORKED ON.
7/30/09 09:57:56 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:57:57 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 09:57:57 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 09:58:00 >> LET ME
7/30/09 09:58:03 HAVE
7/30/09 09:58:04 THE ORDINANCE.
7/30/09 09:58:07 CHAIRMAN, I MOVE AN ORDINANCE
7/30/09 09:58:08 FOR FIRST RECONSIDERATION FOR
7/30/09 09:58:11 THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
7/30/09 09:58:13 CHAPTER 16 PARK AND
7/30/09 09:58:15 RECREATIONAL ARTICLE 1 OF THE
7/30/09 09:58:17 GENERAL FOR ITS ENTIRETY
7/30/09 09:58:20 CREATING ARTICLE 1 GENERAL
7/30/09 09:58:21 REPEATING ARTICLE 2, 3, TRUST
7/30/09 09:58:24 FUND IN ITS ENTIRETY, CREATING
7/30/09 09:58:26 ARTICLES 2, PERMITS FOR THE
7/30/09 09:58:28 REGULATION, REPEATING ARTICLES
7/30/09 09:58:30 3, LANDSCAPE FOR TRUST FUND IN
7/30/09 09:58:32 ITS ENTIRETY, CREATING ARTICLE
7/30/09 09:58:35 3, FACILITIES AND
7/30/09 09:58:36 ACTIVITIES,
7/30/09 09:58:38 REPELLING ARTICLES 4 IN ITS
7/30/09 09:58:39 ENTIRETY.
7/30/09 09:58:42 CREATING ARTICLE 4. CITY
7/30/09 09:58:45 MARINAS, MORNING FIELD AND
7/30/09 09:58:46 JUST
7/30/09 09:58:47 JURISDICTIONAL WATERS.
7/30/09 09:58:50 CITY BASE INCOMPETENTS AND ITS
7/30/09 09:58:50 ENTIRETY.
7/30/09 09:58:53 CREATING ARTICLE 5, TRUST FUND
7/30/09 09:58:55 REPEL ARTICLE 6, WATER TAXI
7/30/09 09:58:57 REGULATION IN ITS ENTIRETY,
7/30/09 09:59:00 CREATING ARTICLE 6, DEDICATING
7/30/09 09:59:02 PARKS, REPEATING ARTICLE 7. ANY
7/30/09 09:59:05 MORE ARTICLES, I'M GOING TO GO
7/30/09 09:59:05 CRAZY.
7/30/09 09:59:08 DEDICATING PARKS IN
7/30/09 09:59:09 ITS
7/30/09 09:59:09 ENTIRETY.
7/30/09 09:59:11 LANDSCAPE AREA TRUST FUND,
7/30/09 09:59:14 CREATING ARTICLE 8, DEFINITION
7/30/09 09:59:17 FOR SERVABILITY FOR REPEL OF
7/30/09 09:59:17 ALL CONFLICT.
7/30/09 09:59:20 >> MOVE AND SECONDED BY
7/30/09 09:59:21 COUNCIL
7/30/09 09:59:22 LINDA SAUL-SENA.
7/30/09 09:59:24 >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
7/30/09 09:59:26 >> AYE.
7/30/09 09:59:28 >> MOTION CARRIES WITH
7/30/09 09:59:29 DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT
7/30/09 09:59:29 VOTE.
7/30/09 09:59:31 THE READING WILL BE HELD AT
7/30/09 09:59:34 AUGUST THE 20th AT 9:30
7/30/09 09:59:34 A.M.
7/30/09 09:59:35 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 09:59:35 ITEM 4.
7/30/09 09:59:38 >> ITEM 4 IS THE LAST ORDINANCE
7/30/09 09:59:40 THAT WE HAVE TO PRESENT YOU
7/30/09 09:59:40 TODAY.
7/30/09 09:59:43 IT IS THE NEW ORDINANCE.
7/30/09 09:59:44 CHAPTER 28 FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.
7/30/09 09:59:47 THIS IS NEW AS FAR AS THE CODE
7/30/09 09:59:49 AND THINGS THAT WE'RE BRINGING
7/30/09 09:59:49 FORWARD.
7/30/09 09:59:52 IT HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY IN
7/30/09 09:59:53 CHAPTER 25 UNDER TRANSPORTATION
7/30/09 09:59:56 AND PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION.
7/30/09 09:59:59 [BRIEF
7/30/09 10:00:02 BREAK IN CAPTIONS]

7/30/09 10:02:04 "THIS BROADCAST REALTIME
7/30/09 10:02:07 CAPTIONED
7/30/09 10:02:08 BY BECKY LYON."
7/30/09 10:02:09 >> REALLY OUTLINES THAT.
7/30/09 10:02:11 THIS IS THE SPECIAL EVENT
7/30/09 10:02:13 COMMITTEE THAT'S BEEN IN
7/30/09 10:02:14 EXISTENCE AND WORKING VERY WELL
7/30/09 10:02:17 AND DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH
7/30/09 10:02:18 ALL OUR EVENTS.
7/30/09 10:02:19 OUR PERMIT APPLICATION
7/30/09 10:02:19 DEADLINES.
7/30/09 10:02:21 ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING
7/30/09 10:02:24 THINGS I THINK WITH
7/30/09 10:02:24 WORKING
7/30/09 10:02:25 WITH EVENTS THEY HAVE GOT TIME
7/30/09 10:02:27 TO PLAN AND WE HAVE GOT PLENTY
7/30/09 10:02:30 OF TIME TO HELP THEM WITH THE
7/30/09 10:02:31 CITY SERVICE AND PROCESSES THAT
7/30/09 10:02:34 ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH.
7/30/09 10:02:37 THE EVENT WILL HAVE A
7/30/09 10:02:38 60-DAY
7/30/09 10:02:38 PRIOR TO EVENT.
7/30/09 10:02:40 TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM AMPLE
7/30/09 10:02:42 TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY
7/30/09 10:02:44 HAVE GOT ALL THEIR ITEMS IN
7/30/09 10:02:47 PLACE AND GIVE THEM PLENTY OF
7/30/09 10:02:50 TIME FOR PROMOTIONAL ADVANCE AS
7/30/09 10:02:50 WELL.
7/30/09 10:02:50 CO-SPONSORSHIP APPLICATIONS
7/30/09 10:02:52 WILL NEED TO BE IN 90 DAYS
7/30/09 10:02:53 PRIOR TO THE EVENT.
7/30/09 10:02:55 AGAIN, THOSE GIVING THE CITY
7/30/09 10:02:56 SERVICES THE OPPORTUNITY TO
7/30/09 10:02:58 EVALUATE WHAT WE CAN ASSIST
7/30/09 10:02:59 THEM WITH AND CAN'T AND
7/30/09 10:03:01 ALLOWING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY
7/30/09 10:03:03 TO WORK THROUGH THOSE AREAS
7/30/09 10:03:04 THEY WILL NEED FURTHER
7/30/09 10:03:05 ASSISTANCE WITH AND ABILITY TO
7/30/09 10:03:07 ACCEPT THE APPLICATION FEE ONE
7/30/09 10:03:07 YEAR IN ADVANCE.
7/30/09 10:03:10 THAT WILL GIVE
7/30/09 10:03:12 FOLKS THAT WE
7/30/09 10:03:14 TALK THROUGH THE EVENTS ALL THE
7/30/09 10:03:14 TIME.
7/30/09 10:03:15 THE EARLIER YOU CAN GET ON THE
7/30/09 10:03:18 EVENT THE BETTER AND WE WILL
7/30/09 10:03:21 WORK THROUGH THE
7/30/09 10:03:22 PROCESSES WITH
7/30/09 10:03:22 THEM.
7/30/09 10:03:24 NO NEIGHBORHOOD NOTIFICATION
7/30/09 10:03:25 PROCESS WAS PREVIOUSLY IN PLAY
7/30/09 10:03:28 SO ESTABLISH PROVISIONS FOR
7/30/09 10:03:28 A
7/30/09 10:03:29 NEIGHBORHOOD NOTIFICATION,
7/30/09 10:03:32 PROVIDES PUBLIC NOTICE OF
7/30/09 10:03:35 EVENTS THAT WE SEE WITH
7/30/09 10:03:35 DIFFERENT EVENTS.
7/30/09 10:03:38 POSTED ON THE
7/30/09 10:03:39 CITY INTERNET
7/30/09 10:03:39 SITE.
7/30/09 10:03:42 NOTICE TO THE DOWNTOWN
7/30/09 10:03:44 PARTNERSHIP.
7/30/09 10:03:46 THEY ARE NOTED AND NOTING
7/30/09 10:03:48 WHAT'S NECESSARY AND NEEDED FOR
7/30/09 10:03:49 THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
7/30/09 10:03:52 I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A BIG
7/30/09 10:03:52 HELP.
7/30/09 10:03:53 LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW AND
7/30/09 10:03:56 REMIND THEM THAT THEY ARE
7/30/09 10:03:56 COMING.
7/30/09 10:03:57 INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS.
7/30/09 10:03:57 INSURANCE LIABILITY.
7/30/09 10:03:59 LIMITS HAVE BEEN AMENDED AND
7/30/09 10:04:00 REFLECTED WHICH SHOW THE
7/30/09 10:04:02 CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN CITY
7/30/09 10:04:02 WIDE.
7/30/09 10:04:03 RISK MANAGEMENT IS TELLING US
7/30/09 10:04:05 WE NEED TO HAVE AVAILABLE FOR
7/30/09 10:04:07 OUR PARTICIPANT AND, AGAIN, IT
7/30/09 10:04:09 GIVES THE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS
7/30/09 10:04:12 FOR EVENTS IN PARKS
7/30/09 10:04:14 UNDER THE
7/30/09 10:04:15 199 PARTICIPANT.
7/30/09 10:04:16 THOSE WITHIN THAT WINDOW WILL
7/30/09 10:04:18 FALL UNDER OUR REGULAR PARK
7/30/09 10:04:20 PERMIT PROCESS THAT WAS
7/30/09 10:04:21 APPROVED FOR FIRST READING IN
7/30/09 10:04:23 CHAPTER 16 AN THOSE THAT FALL
7/30/09 10:04:24 OVER THAT 200 WINDOW WILL FALL
7/30/09 10:04:26 INTO THE SPECIAL EVENT PIECE.
7/30/09 10:04:28 SO IT REALLY CLEARLY IDENTIFIES
7/30/09 10:04:28 THAT.
7/30/09 10:04:31 ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT CAME UP
7/30/09 10:04:32 EARLIER FROM THE CHAIRMAN WAS
7/30/09 10:04:35 THE ISSUE OF
7/30/09 10:04:37 THE RESTROOM
7/30/09 10:04:40 FACILITIES, THAT IS
7/30/09 10:04:41 THE STATE
7/30/09 10:04:43 REGULATOR REQUIREMENTS, NOT
7/30/09 10:04:44 SOMETHING WE WILL REGULATE.
7/30/09 10:04:47 THAT IS STATED IN THE
7/30/09 10:04:48 ORDINANCE
7/30/09 10:04:50 THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR
7/30/09 10:04:52 COMPLYING WITH ANY STATE LAW
7/30/09 10:04:52 AND SUCH.
7/30/09 10:04:53 SO THAT'S WHERE THAT PARTICULAR
7/30/09 10:04:54 PIECE COMES FROM.
7/30/09 10:04:57 >> SO THAT IS PART OF THE STATE
7/30/09 10:04:57 REQUIREMENT.
7/30/09 10:04:58 >> PRESENT STATE.
7/30/09 10:04:59 >> OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH THAT IF
7/30/09 10:05:00 SOMEONE CAME IN.
7/30/09 10:05:02 >> THAT IS NOT A CITY
7/30/09 10:05:03 OPPORTUNITY THAT WOULD BE
7/30/09 10:05:03 SOMETHING THEY WOULD HAVE TO
7/30/09 10:05:06 WORK OUT FOR THE
7/30/09 10:05:08 STATE
7/30/09 10:05:08 DEPARTMENT.
7/30/09 10:05:09 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 10:05:11 >> THAT'S A FAIRLY NEW
7/30/09 10:05:13 REGULATION OVER ABOUT THE LAST
7/30/09 10:05:16 SIX MONTHS THAT WE BECAME
7/30/09 10:05:16 AWARE
7/30/09 10:05:16 OF NOW.
7/30/09 10:05:19 >> THANK YOU FOR ALL THIS WORK
7/30/09 10:05:20 ON ALL OF THESE ORDINANCES.
7/30/09 10:05:22 I KNOW IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF
7/30/09 10:05:24 YEARS OF WORK BY YOU AND A LOT
7/30/09 10:05:27 OF OTHER PEOPLE AND A
7/30/09 10:05:28 WHOLE LOT
7/30/09 10:05:28 OF FOLKS.
7/30/09 10:05:30 AND I KNOW WE HAD --A COUPLE
7/30/09 10:05:32 YEARS WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT
7/30/09 10:05:35 ALL OF THIS AND I KNOW YOU
7/30/09 10:05:36 HAVE
7/30/09 10:05:38 LISTENED TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT
7/30/09 10:05:40 WHAT CHANGES THEY WANT.
7/30/09 10:05:43 MY FIRST QUESTION HAD TO
7/30/09 10:05:46 DO
7/30/09 10:05:47 WITH THAT PORTAL THING SINCE OF
7/30/09 10:05:47 IT BROUGHT UP.
7/30/09 10:05:50 SO THEY CAN GO TO THE STATE TO
7/30/09 10:05:53 APPEAL THAT IF
7/30/09 10:05:54 THEY NEED MORE
7/30/09 10:05:55 PORTALS THAN PEOPLE THAT ARE
7/30/09 10:05:58 SHOWING UP AT THE EVENT BUT IS
7/30/09 10:06:00 THAT SOMETHING THAT'S A NEW
7/30/09 10:06:00 STATE REQUIREMENT?
7/30/09 10:06:03 IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD
7/30/09 10:06:04 MAYBE LOBBY THEM TO --
7/30/09 10:06:06 >> I CAN LOOK INTO THAT
7/30/09 10:06:07 FURTHER, SURE.
7/30/09 10:06:10 >> SO WHO
7/30/09 10:06:12 WOULD DO THE
7/30/09 10:06:12 ENFORCEMENT?
7/30/09 10:06:13 >> THE STATE.
7/30/09 10:06:14 >> HEALTH DEPARTMENT?
7/30/09 10:06:17 >> I THINK IT IS THE HEALTH
7/30/09 10:06:17 DEPARTMENT SPECIFICALLY, YES.
7/30/09 10:06:18 >> THANKS.
7/30/09 10:06:19 THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT
7/30/09 10:06:22 WAS BROUGHT UP
7/30/09 10:06:24 BY MR. KEATING
7/30/09 10:06:26 ABOUT THE DEPLOYMENT AT PEAK
7/30/09 10:06:27 TIMES.
7/30/09 10:06:30 WHAT HE BROUGHT
7/30/09 10:06:30 UP, WHETHER
7/30/09 10:06:32 CODIFYING THIS, YOU ARE SAYING
7/30/09 10:06:34 THE STATE IS REQUIRING US TO DO
7/30/09 10:06:34 THAT.
7/30/09 10:06:36 BUT, FOR INSTANCE, IN THE
7/30/09 10:06:39 DEPLOYMENT DO WE REALLY HAVE TO
7/30/09 10:06:40 CODIFY THAT?
7/30/09 10:06:42 IS IT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE
7/30/09 10:06:45 WRITTEN IN THERE THE NUMBERS
7/30/09 10:06:48 OF
7/30/09 10:06:48 PEOPLE?
7/30/09 10:06:49 I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE IS
7/30/09 10:06:51 A WAY TO MAKE THAT MORE
7/30/09 10:06:51 FLEXIBLE?
7/30/09 10:06:54 >> THERE IS A
7/30/09 10:06:55 STATEMENT IN
7/30/09 10:06:56 THERE THAT DOES ALLOW
7/30/09 10:06:56 FLEXIBILITY.
7/30/09 10:06:58 YOU READ THROUGH THIS MATRIX IS
7/30/09 10:07:00 IN THERE BUT IT IS ALSO IN THE
7/30/09 10:07:00 ARTICLE IT STATES THAT
7/30/09 10:07:03 DEPENDING ON TYPE OF
7/30/09 10:07:07 EVENT
7/30/09 10:07:08 AND
7/30/09 10:07:08 SUCH.
7/30/09 10:07:09 THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN SHARE
7/30/09 10:07:11 WITH YOU THEIR THOUGHTS ON
7/30/09 10:07:11 THAT.
7/30/09 10:07:14 >> SO IT IS BY EVENT YOU MAKE
7/30/09 10:07:17 THOSE
7/30/09 10:07:17 DETERMINATIONS.
7/30/09 10:07:20 >> I COULD MAKE ONE
7/30/09 10:07:20 COMMENT.
7/30/09 10:07:21 CHIP FLETCHER, CITY ATTORNEY.
7/30/09 10:07:24 WE DO HAVE TO HAVE OBJECTIVE
7/30/09 10:07:26 STANDARDS STATED IN THE CODE.
7/30/09 10:07:28 WORKING VERY HARD AT DEVELOPING
7/30/09 10:07:29 A STANDARD.
7/30/09 10:07:32 WE CAN'T
7/30/09 10:07:33 HAVE A DISCRETIONARY
7/30/09 10:07:34 TYPE ABSENCE SOME FORMULA LIKE
7/30/09 10:07:37 WHAT WE HAVE IN THIS PROPOSED
7/30/09 10:07:38 ORDINANCE.
7/30/09 10:07:39 THE MAJOR WILL DESCRIBE WHAT
7/30/09 10:07:40 THEY DEVELOP BUT THAT'S KIND OF
7/30/09 10:07:41 A KEY ISSUE NOW UNDER THE
7/30/09 10:07:43 CURRENT CASE LAW THAT IT REALLY
7/30/09 10:07:46 DOES HAVE TO BE CLEARLY
7/30/09 10:07:46 OBJECTIVE STANDARD.
7/30/09 10:07:49 >> BUT THEN IS
7/30/09 10:07:49 THERE
7/30/09 10:07:50 OPPORTUNITY FOR ADJUSTING THAT?
7/30/09 10:07:53 >> THAT'S WHAT THE MAJOR WILL
7/30/09 10:07:56 TALK ABOUT.
7/30/09 10:07:57 >> GOOD MORNING, TAMPA POLICE
7/30/09 10:07:57 DIDN'T.
7/30/09 10:08:00 IF YOU REFER TO SECTION 28-27
7/30/09 10:08:02 OF THE PROPOSAL.
7/30/09 10:08:02 PAGE 16 ON MY SHEET.
7/30/09 10:08:05 I DON'T KNOW IF IT
7/30/09 10:08:08 CORRESPONDS
7/30/09 10:08:10 WITH YOUR PAGE NUMBERS.
7/30/09 10:08:11 EMERGENCY REQUIREMENTS
7/30/09 10:08:11 NOTWITHSTANDING THE
7/30/09 10:08:13 REQUIREMENTS OF THIS CHAPTER IT
7/30/09 10:08:14 IS TITLED.
7/30/09 10:08:14 SUBSECTION B STATES IN A
7/30/09 10:08:17 SPECIAL EVENT MAY BE ALLOWED TO
7/30/09 10:08:20 HAVE LESS SECURITY AND BASED ON
7/30/09 10:08:20 THE PERSONAL ATTENDANCE.
7/30/09 10:08:21 THAT MATRIX IS PRETTY MUCH A
7/30/09 10:08:23 GOIL ON THE BACK THAT IS JUST
7/30/09 10:08:25 AS MUCH FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
7/30/09 10:08:27 APPLYING FOR THE PERMIT AS IT
7/30/09 10:08:30 IS FOR THE POLICE
7/30/09 10:08:32 DEPARTMENT TO
7/30/09 10:08:32 USE.
7/30/09 10:08:33 MR. KEATING CITED A CASE.
7/30/09 10:08:36 AS WE SPEAK WE ARE TALKING AND
7/30/09 10:08:38 TABLING WITH THAT GROUP ABOUT
7/30/09 10:08:41 REDUCING SOME OF THE SECURITY
7/30/09 10:08:44 PERSONNEL DURING SOME OF THE
7/30/09 10:08:44 EVENT.
7/30/09 10:08:44 SO THERE IS FLEXIBILITY.
7/30/09 10:08:47 WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WORK
7/30/09 10:08:50 ESPECIALLY WITH AN EVENT WE ARE
7/30/09 10:08:51 FAMILIAR WITH WHICH OCCURS YEAR
7/30/09 10:08:52 AFTER YEAR.
7/30/09 10:08:53 WE WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM
7/30/09 10:08:55 SITTING DOWN WITH THEM AND THE
7/30/09 10:08:58 ORDINANCE ALLOWS US TO DO
7/30/09 10:08:58 SO.
7/30/09 10:09:00 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 10:09:03 AND ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT
7/30/09 10:09:04 THE
7/30/09 10:09:06 APPEAL PROCESS FOR I THINK CITY
7/30/09 10:09:06 PARTNERSHIP.
7/30/09 10:09:09 IS THAT WHAT --
7/30/09 10:09:09 >>
7/30/09 10:09:09 >> CO-SPONSORSHIP?
7/30/09 10:09:10 >> RIGHT.
7/30/09 10:09:13 >> WHAT IS
7/30/09 10:09:14 THAT APPEAL PROCESS?
7/30/09 10:09:17 >> THE CITY COME TO THE
7/30/09 10:09:18 SPECIAL
7/30/09 10:09:18 EVENTS DEPARTMENT.
7/30/09 10:09:19 >> YES.
7/30/09 10:09:22 >> IF THEY APPEAL THAT WHO --
7/30/09 10:09:25 >> IT GIVES YOU
7/30/09 10:09:29 THE
7/30/09 10:09:29 NEIGHBORHOOD ADMINISTRATOR.
7/30/09 10:09:30 SANTIAGO'S OFFICE.
7/30/09 10:09:31 >> SO THERE IS NO INDEPENDENT
7/30/09 10:09:34 PERSON WHO IS GOING
7/30/09 10:09:35 TO HEAR
7/30/09 10:09:35 THAT?
7/30/09 10:09:37 >> NOT --
7/30/09 10:09:38 >> I'M JUST CURIOUS.
7/30/09 10:09:41 I KNOW THIS
7/30/09 10:09:44 ISN'T A BIG PART
7/30/09 10:09:44 OF
7/30/09 10:09:47 OUR PROCESS BUT WITH
7/30/09 10:09:48 OUR
7/30/09 10:09:51 APPEALS FOR CONTRACT THAT KEEPS
7/30/09 10:09:54 COMING UP WHEN SOMEONE APPEALS
7/30/09 10:09:56 IT GOES TO GOES TO STAFF.
7/30/09 10:09:57 IT IS THE ACTUAL CITY STAFF
7/30/09 10:10:00 THAT GOES TO THE APPEAL AND I'M
7/30/09 10:10:02 JUST WONDERING DO THEY HAVE AN
7/30/09 10:10:03 OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO COUNSEL
7/30/09 10:10:06 IF THE APPEAL
7/30/09 10:10:07 IS NOT GRANTED?
7/30/09 10:10:10 >> IF I
7/30/09 10:10:11 CAN ADDRESS THAT.
7/30/09 10:10:14 NORMALLY NOW I
7/30/09 10:10:16 DON'T BELIEVE IT
7/30/09 10:10:19 DOES AND I CAN
7/30/09 10:10:20 BE CORRECTED.
7/30/09 10:10:23 THIS IS
7/30/09 10:10:27 DISCRETIONARY BY THE
7/30/09 10:10:28 CITY ADMINISTRATION AND IT
7/30/09 10:10:31 WOULD BE NOT APPROPRIATE
7/30/09 10:10:32 TO
7/30/09 10:10:33 SEND TO A HEARING OFFICE.
7/30/09 10:10:34 IF THERE IS ANYTHING THEY WISH
7/30/09 10:10:36 TO ADD BUT I THINK NORMALLY
7/30/09 10:10:37 THIS IS REALLY THE DISCRETION
7/30/09 10:10:40 OF THE CITY WHETHER TO INVEST
7/30/09 10:10:42 FUNDS OR WHETHER TO INVEST THE
7/30/09 10:10:45 SEAL OR GIVE THE PERIMETER OF
7/30/09 10:10:46 AN OFFICIAL FUNCTION.
7/30/09 10:10:48 >> LET ME ASK THIS, THEN, IN
7/30/09 10:10:49 RESPONSE TO THAT.
7/30/09 10:10:52 IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS AN
7/30/09 10:10:53 ADMINISTRATE OBVIOUS PROCESS
7/30/09 10:10:55 AND IS THERE --WHAT PROMPTS
7/30/09 10:10:57 THE NEED TO EVEN HAVE AN APPEAL
7/30/09 10:11:00 IF THIS IS THE DECISION
7/30/09 10:11:04 OF YOUR
7/30/09 10:11:06 DEPARTMENT?
7/30/09 10:11:08 >> WHAT I WILL SELL, IT IS AN
7/30/09 10:11:10 INTERNAL --WHAT I WOULD CALL
7/30/09 10:11:12 RATHER THAN AN APPEAL IS AN
7/30/09 10:11:15 INTERNAL REVIEW WITHIN THE
7/30/09 10:11:17 PARKS AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES
7/30/09 10:11:17 ADMINISTRATOR'S DEPARTMENT.
7/30/09 10:11:20 SO RATHER THAN TO CALL AN
7/30/09 10:11:23 APPEAL WHERE YOU THINK OF FOLKS
7/30/09 10:11:24 PUTTING ON EVIDENCE AND PUTTING
7/30/09 10:11:27 ON INFORMATION IT IS
7/30/09 10:11:27 REALLY
7/30/09 10:11:30 MORE OF IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO
7/30/09 10:11:33 ELEVATE IT TO
7/30/09 10:11:37 A MORE SENIOR
7/30/09 10:11:40 STAFF PERSON THEY CAN DO THAT.
7/30/09 10:11:41 >> I MISSPOKE.
7/30/09 10:11:43 >> I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY THERE
7/30/09 10:11:45 SEEMS TO BE A NEED FOR THAT OR
7/30/09 10:11:48 YOU'RE JUST BEING CAUTIOUS IF.
7/30/09 10:11:51 >> IT IS A CAUTIONARY THING.
7/30/09 10:11:54 IT IS A STANDARD SO THAT
7/30/09 10:11:57 FOLKS
7/30/09 10:11:59 KNOW THERE IS SOMETHING THAT
7/30/09 10:11:59 COMES THROUGH THE CO-
7/30/09 10:12:01 SPONSORSHIP, THERE IS AN
7/30/09 10:12:02 OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM.
7/30/09 10:12:03 >> WE TYPICALLY AS YOU ARE
7/30/09 10:12:06 AWARE WE HAVEN'T HAD MANY OF
7/30/09 10:12:07 THOSE ISSUES OF THINGS THAT
7/30/09 10:12:09 HAVE COME FORWARD BUT AGAIN WE
7/30/09 10:12:11 ARE MAKING SURE THAT THE PROPER
7/30/09 10:12:12 INFORMATION IS HERE.
7/30/09 10:12:13 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 10:12:15 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
7/30/09 10:12:17 MISS PAULS I'M SURE YOU AND
7/30/09 10:12:19 YOUR DEPARTMENT SPENT MANY
7/30/09 10:12:22 HOURS IN PUTTING THESE ITEMS
7/30/09 10:12:22 TOGETHER.
7/30/09 10:12:25 HAVE YOU MADE ANY CONCERTED
7/30/09 10:12:28 EFFORT TO REALIZE THE OTHER
7/30/09 10:12:29 ORDINANCES AROUND THIS AREA
7/30/09 10:12:32 THAT MIRROR WHAT YOU ARE
7/30/09 10:12:33 PRESENTING TODAY?
7/30/09 10:12:35 IN OTHER WORDS, OTHER CITIES
7/30/09 10:12:37 AND OTHER GOVERNMENTS?
7/30/09 10:12:39 HOW DO YOU FAIR?
7/30/09 10:12:41 >> ON THIS ORDINANCE WE HAVE
7/30/09 10:12:44 LOOKED AT CITY OF CHICAGO,
7/30/09 10:12:45 CITY
7/30/09 10:12:47 OF JACKSONVILLE, CITY OF ST.
7/30/09 10:12:47 PETE.
7/30/09 10:12:49 WE HAVE LOOKED JUST ABOUT ALL
7/30/09 10:12:52 OVER THE COUNTRY AND
7/30/09 10:12:54 JUSTIN
7/30/09 10:12:57 VASQUEZ HAS PULLED IT THROUGH
7/30/09 10:12:58 THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
7/30/09 10:13:01 WE STARTED THIS WITH CHICAGO'S
7/30/09 10:13:02 INFORMATION IN MIND AND WORKED
7/30/09 10:13:03 THROUGH THEIR INFORMATION AND
7/30/09 10:13:05 MAJORITY OF WHAT YOU SEE IS
7/30/09 10:13:05 THERE.
7/30/09 10:13:08 THERE ARE SOME THINGS FROM THE
7/30/09 10:13:10 CITY OF ORLANDO WE HAVE LEARNED
7/30/09 10:13:10 FROM.
7/30/09 10:13:11 THIS HAS BEEN A SEVEN-YEAR
7/30/09 10:13:11 PROCESS.
7/30/09 10:13:12 WE HAVE LEARNED FROM OTHER
7/30/09 10:13:14 CITIES THAT HAVE DONE OTHER
7/30/09 10:13:15 THINGS LET'S MAKE SURE WE HAVE
7/30/09 10:13:16 NOT PUT OURSELVES IN THAT
7/30/09 10:13:16 SITUATION.
7/30/09 10:13:18 SO THAT'S WHY IT HAS TAKEN A
7/30/09 10:13:19 LITTLE WHILE TO GET HERE BUT IT
7/30/09 10:13:20 IS FOR ALL THE GOOD REASONS.
7/30/09 10:13:21 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 10:13:23 I HEARD A RUMOR AND I FORGOT
7/30/09 10:13:25 THE AWARD BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR
7/30/09 10:13:27 DEPARTMENT, EVEN THOUGH THEY
7/30/09 10:13:30 WERE CUT ENORMOUSLY THROUGHOUT
7/30/09 10:13:36 THE LAST YEAR
7/30/09 10:13:38 YOU RECEIVE AN
7/30/09 10:13:38 AWARD.
7/30/09 10:13:41 >> WE ARE THE 2009 AGENCY
7/30/09 10:13:42 EXCELLENCE AWARD FOR THE
7/30/09 10:13:44 FLORIDA PARK ASSOCIATION AND WE
7/30/09 10:13:45 WILL BE RECEIVING THE AWARD AT
7/30/09 10:13:47 THE END OF THE MONTH IN AUGUST.
7/30/09 10:13:48 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 10:13:51 >>
7/30/09 10:13:53 CONGRATULATIONS.
7/30/09 10:13:53 [ APPLAUSE ]
7/30/09 10:13:54 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 10:13:57 ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IN COMING
7/30/09 10:13:59 UP WITH ORDINANCES IS TO CREATE
7/30/09 10:14:02 UNIFORMITY WHEN YOU KNOW THAT
7/30/09 10:14:04 AN OLD BOOK EVENT IS GOING TO
7/30/09 10:14:07 HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT VIBE THAN
7/30/09 10:14:12 A TEQUILA TASTING EVENT.
7/30/09 10:14:14 AND YOU KNOW THE ADDITIONAL
7/30/09 10:14:17 AMOUNT OF POLICE PRESENCE
7/30/09 10:14:18 OR
7/30/09 10:14:20 REST ROOMS YOU NEED FOR THE
7/30/09 10:14:22 TEQUILA IS DIFFERENT THAN THE
7/30/09 10:14:22 OLD BOOKS.
7/30/09 10:14:25 HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THAT
7/30/09 10:14:26 FLEXIBILITY USING YOUR SYSTEM
7/30/09 10:14:29 WITH THIS VARIETY OF EVENTS
7/30/09 10:14:31 TO
7/30/09 10:14:34 REQUIRE THE AMOUNT OF EXTRA
7/30/09 10:14:36 HELP SUPPORTIVE OF THAT
7/30/09 10:14:38 DISTINGUISHES THE DIFFERENT
7/30/09 10:14:38 EVENTS?
7/30/09 10:14:39 >> THAT'S A GOOD BIT OF HOW WE
7/30/09 10:14:41 HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS
7/30/09 10:14:42 TO ENSURE WE ARE DOING WHAT
7/30/09 10:14:44 LEGAL NEEDS US TO DO TO PROTECT
7/30/09 10:14:46 THE CITY AND FOACTS THAT ARE
7/30/09 10:14:47 UTILIZING OUR FACILITIES BUT
7/30/09 10:14:48 ALSO TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T SET
7/30/09 10:14:50 SOMETHING UP THAT'S GOING TO
7/30/09 10:14:52 LEAVE SOMEBODY OUT OR NOT ALLOW
7/30/09 10:14:54 THEM TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.
7/30/09 10:14:56 TAMPA IS ONE OF THE GREAT
7/30/09 10:14:57 CITIES THAT DOES A FANTASTIC
7/30/09 10:14:58 JOB WITH EVENTS.
7/30/09 10:15:01 WE SIT DOWN AND SPEND A
7/30/09 10:15:04 TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME WITH
7/30/09 10:15:07 OUR PROMOTORS GIVING
7/30/09 10:15:07 FEEDBACK,
7/30/09 10:15:08 IDEAS, SHARING IDEAS, SHARING
7/30/09 10:15:09 IDEAS FROM OTHER EVENTS THAT
7/30/09 10:15:11 HAVE OCCURRED IN HISTORY SO WE
7/30/09 10:15:12 ARE VERY FORTUNATE IN THAT
7/30/09 10:15:14 ASPECT AND I THINK OUR
7/30/09 10:15:14 PROMOTORS APPRECIATE THAT
7/30/09 10:15:16 ACTIVITY AND THEY CONTINUE TO
7/30/09 10:15:18 WORK WITH US IN THOSE REGARDS.
7/30/09 10:15:21 >> ONE THING THAT WAS
7/30/09 10:15:24 SURPRISING WENT YOU SURPRISING
7/30/09 10:15:27 --WHEN YOU SHARED IT WITH ME,
7/30/09 10:15:29 WAS THE AMOUNT SPENT.
7/30/09 10:15:30 I DIDN'T SEE ANY DETAILS BUT I
7/30/09 10:15:33 THINK IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY
7/30/09 10:15:34 VALUABLE FOR COUNCIL AND PUBLIC
7/30/09 10:15:36 AN NONPROFITS TO SEE HOW MUCH
7/30/09 10:15:39 WE CURRENTLY COMMIT BECAUSE IT
7/30/09 10:15:43 IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT.
7/30/09 10:15:46 IT IS SORT
7/30/09 10:15:47 OF SHOCKINGLY
7/30/09 10:15:47 SIGNIFICANT.
7/30/09 10:15:50 WE HAVE SO MANY VENUES SO
7/30/09 10:15:53 A
7/30/09 10:15:55 CALENDAR OF EVENTS.
7/30/09 10:15:56 FROM EBOR AND DOWNTOWN AND WHAT
7/30/09 10:15:59 WILL
7/30/09 10:16:01 BE OUR NEW PARK.
7/30/09 10:16:04 IT IS LIKE PUTTING ON
7/30/09 10:16:05 AN OPERA.
7/30/09 10:16:06 >> I THINK IT WOULD BE HELP
7/30/09 10:16:06 PRESIDENT-ELECT IF YOU COULD
7/30/09 10:16:09 COME BACK TO US WITH THAT KIND
7/30/09 10:16:12 OF INFORMATION BECAUSE WE
7/30/09 10:16:13 ALL
7/30/09 10:16:16 GET THE COMPLAINTS FROM WORTHY
7/30/09 10:16:18 CAUSES THAT WOULD LIKE SOME
7/30/09 10:16:19 MORE CITY HELP AND IT HELPS TO
7/30/09 10:16:21 HAVE THE BIG PICTURE OF ALL THE
7/30/09 10:16:21 THINGS WE ARE DOING.
7/30/09 10:16:24 AND THEN IF YOU CAN JUST
7/30/09 10:16:27 BRIEFLY SHARE HOW YOU DECIDE
7/30/09 10:16:30 WHERE THE CITY
7/30/09 10:16:32 SHOULD BE A CO-
7/30/09 10:16:32 SPONSOR.
7/30/09 10:16:34 >> I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT AN
7/30/09 10:16:35 BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK AND
7/30/09 10:16:37 BRING YOU THE BIG PICTURE ON
7/30/09 10:16:40 THE FINANCIAL PEACE THAT
7/30/09 10:16:41 SANTAGIO HAD DONE.
7/30/09 10:16:42 HAD DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THAT
7/30/09 10:16:44 WITH OUR OFFICE WITH SPECIAL
7/30/09 10:16:44 EVENTS.
7/30/09 10:16:45 WE CAN PULL THE INFORMATION
7/30/09 10:16:45 TOGETHER.
7/30/09 10:16:48 AS FAR AS HOW AND WHAT'S
7/30/09 10:16:48 DETERMINED FOR CO-SPONSORSHIP
7/30/09 10:16:50 WHAT WE HAD MADE A DECISION WAS
7/30/09 10:16:53 WHEN WE WERE DEALING WITH A LOT
7/30/09 10:16:55 OF THE BUDGET REDUCTIONS WAS
7/30/09 10:16:57 THOSE EVENTS WE TRADITIONALLY
7/30/09 10:16:59 HAVE ASSISTING WITH WE ARE
7/30/09 10:16:59 CONTINUING TO.
7/30/09 10:17:00 WE ARE EVALUATING THOSE
7/30/09 10:17:02 SERVICES TO SEE HOW AND TO WHAT
7/30/09 10:17:04 EXTEND WE CAN STILL DO THAT BUT
7/30/09 10:17:06 WE ARE STILL PROVIDING THOSE
7/30/09 10:17:06 SERVICES.
7/30/09 10:17:07 WE HAVE NOT BEEN TAKING ON
7/30/09 10:17:08 ANYTHING NEW IN THE LAST YEAR
7/30/09 10:17:10 AND A HALF AT THIS PARTICULAR
7/30/09 10:17:13 POINT IN TIME BUT THAT'S REALLY
7/30/09 10:17:14 WHERE WE ARE.
7/30/09 10:17:15 SO HERITAGE EVENTS, THINGS THAT
7/30/09 10:17:18 HAVE BEEN IN OUR CUE OR WE HAVE
7/30/09 10:17:20 ASSISTED FOR WHATEVER PURPOSES
7/30/09 10:17:21 AND REASONS THEY HAVE ESTABLISH
7/30/09 10:17:22 WE HAVE CONTINUED TO ASSIST
7/30/09 10:17:24 THOSE FOLKS AS BEST WE CAN AND
7/30/09 10:17:25 THEY HAVE BEEN GREAT TO WORK
7/30/09 10:17:26 WITH TOO BECAUSE THEY ARE
7/30/09 10:17:28 LOOKING FOR WAYS THAT WE CAN
7/30/09 10:17:31 HELP REDUCE THE COSTS AS WELL
7/30/09 10:17:34 AS THEIRS AND STILL PUT ON A
7/30/09 10:17:34 FANTASTIC EVENT.
7/30/09 10:17:34 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 10:17:37 >> YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
7/30/09 10:17:40 >> YOU WANT TO
7/30/09 10:17:41 READ THE
7/30/09 10:17:41 ORDINANCE?
7/30/09 10:17:41 >> SURE.
7/30/09 10:17:42 >> I THINK THIS IS EVEN LONGER
7/30/09 10:17:44 THAN THE LAST ONE.
7/30/09 10:17:45 THANK YOU, MR.CHAIRMAN.
7/30/09 10:17:47 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING
7/30/09 10:17:47 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
7/30/09 10:17:50 CONSIDERATION ORDINANCE OF THE
7/30/09 10:17:53 CITY OF TAM, FLORIDA,
7/30/09 10:17:53 ENACTING
7/30/09 10:17:56 A
7/30/09 10:17:59 NEW
7/30/09 10:18:00 CHAPTER OF TAMPA.
7/30/09 10:18:01 ESTABLISHING PROCEDURES AND
7/30/09 10:18:02 APPROVAL OF APPLICATION FOR A
7/30/09 10:18:05 SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT ON A CITY
7/30/09 10:18:08 PARK ON PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY AN
7/30/09 10:18:11 TEMPORARY CLOSURE OF PUBLIC
7/30/09 10:18:12 RIGHTS OF WAY IDENTIFYING
7/30/09 10:18:14 ACTIVITIES EXEMPT FROM THE
7/30/09 10:18:16 SPECIAL EVENT PERMITTING
7/30/09 10:18:16 PROCESS.
7/30/09 10:18:19 ESTABLISHING THE CITY OF TAMPA
7/30/09 10:18:20 SPECIAL EVENT CO-SPONSORSHIP
7/30/09 10:18:21 COMMITTEE WHICH SHOULD BE
7/30/09 10:18:24 RESPONSIBLE FOR APPROVAL OR
7/30/09 10:18:27 DENIAL
7/30/09 10:18:29 OF SPECIAL EVENT,
7/30/09 10:18:30 SPONSORSHIP, PROVIDING A
7/30/09 10:18:32 PROCESS FOR APPEAL OF
7/30/09 10:18:32 ADMINISTRATIVE DETERMINATIONS
7/30/09 10:18:34 AND DENIAL OF A SPECIAL EVENT
7/30/09 10:18:37 PERMIT PROVIDING FOR
7/30/09 10:18:38 THE
7/30/09 10:18:40 ESTABLISHMENT, DELETING SPECIAL
7/30/09 10:18:41 EVENT PROVISIONS FROM CHAPTER
7/30/09 10:18:44 25 OF THE
7/30/09 10:18:45 CITY TAMPA CODE.
7/30/09 10:18:47 UPDATING EVENTS TO SPECIAL
7/30/09 10:18:50 EVENTS PROVISIONS IN CHAPTER
7/30/09 10:18:51 27-
7/30/09 10:18:52 145 PROVIDING FOR APPEAL OF
7/30/09 10:18:54 ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HERE
7/30/09 10:18:57 WITH PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
7/30/09 10:18:57 DATE.
7/30/09 10:18:58 >> SECOND.
7/30/09 10:19:01 >> CHAIRMAN, I SECONDED
7/30/09 10:19:02 THAT
7/30/09 10:19:05 MOTION AND FOR
7/30/09 10:19:05 REASONS.
7/30/09 10:19:06 THIS GOVERNMENT OR NO
7/30/09 10:19:08 GOVERNMENT OF THIS GREAT
7/30/09 10:19:10 COUNTRY OF OURS IS VACCINATED
7/30/09 10:19:13 AGAINST WHAT
7/30/09 10:19:16 I
7/30/09 10:19:17 CALL EBT.
7/30/09 10:19:17 ECONOMIC BAD TIMES.
7/30/09 10:19:19 WE ARE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE
7/30/09 10:19:21 CAN AND TRYING TO GIVE THE
7/30/09 10:19:23 PUBLIC THE BEST WE CAN AND
7/30/09 10:19:26 THOSE THAT GO OUT AND
7/30/09 10:19:27 SUPPORT
7/30/09 10:19:29 THESE EVENTS ARE DOING A
7/30/09 10:19:30 WONDERFUL THING FOR THEIR
7/30/09 10:19:31 FAMILY AND EVENT SPONSORS AND
7/30/09 10:19:32 FOR THE CITY.
7/30/09 10:19:34 YOU HAVE TO HAVE DIFFERENT
7/30/09 10:19:35 VENUES AT DIFFERENT TEAMS TO
7/30/09 10:19:38 MEET ALL THE NECESSARY THINGS
7/30/09 10:19:40 FOR THE CITIZENSHIPS.
7/30/09 10:19:43 BUT IT IS HARD, IT
7/30/09 10:19:45 IS DIFFICULT
7/30/09 10:19:46 TO DO THINGS RIGHT BUT AT THE
7/30/09 10:19:49 SAME TIME LIKE I SAID WE ARE
7/30/09 10:19:50 NOT VACCINATED AGAINST BAD
7/30/09 10:19:52 TIMES AND WE HAVE TO DO WHAT IS
7/30/09 10:19:55 NECESSARY TO KEEP THOSE VENUES
7/30/09 10:19:57 OPEN SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN
7/30/09 10:19:59 CONTINUE TO HAVE AN AVENUE OF
7/30/09 10:20:02 SOME FORM OF ENTERTAINMENT SO
7/30/09 10:20:05 THAT SOMETIMES ALL OF
7/30/09 10:20:06 US CAN'T
7/30/09 10:20:09 GO TO WHERE SOME GO BUT I LIKE
7/30/09 10:20:11 TO SEE THESE THINGS CONTINUE.
7/30/09 10:20:13 IN FACT THE FRIENDSHIP BRIDGE
7/30/09 10:20:15 IS ONE THING THAT WE MUST
7/30/09 10:20:16 CONTINUE TO HAVE AND MAYBE
7/30/09 10:20:18 LATER ON WE WILL DISCUSS THAT
7/30/09 10:20:19 ON A DIFFERENT DATE BUT I
7/30/09 10:20:20 APLAYED YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT
7/30/09 10:20:22 FOR DOING WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO
7/30/09 10:20:25 COME UP WITH A FAIRNESS
7/30/09 10:20:27 DOCUMENT THAT HAS MOVEMENT ONE
7/30/09 10:20:30 WAY OR THE OTHER TO MAKE
7/30/09 10:20:30 SURE
7/30/09 10:20:33 THAT THE AFFORDABILITY TO THESE
7/30/09 10:20:36 EVENTS WILL CONTINUE FOR MANY
7/30/09 10:20:37 YEARS TO COME.
7/30/09 10:20:38 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 10:20:40 >> LET ME JUST THANK YOU AND
7/30/09 10:20:43 YOUR STAFF AND
7/30/09 10:20:47 ALL INVOLVED.
7/30/09 10:20:48 MOVED SECOND.
7/30/09 10:20:51 ALL IN FAVOR
7/30/09 10:20:53 SAY AYE.
7/30/09 10:20:54 >> MOTION CARRIED.
7/30/09 10:20:56 SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE
7/30/09 10:20:58 WILL BE HELD AUGUST 20TH AT
7/30/09 10:20:59 9:30 A.M.
7/30/09 10:21:02 >> IF YOU JUST HOLD JUST FOR A
7/30/09 10:21:03 MOMENT BECAUSE I'VE GOT A
7/30/09 10:21:04 SUSPICION THAT 62 IS GOING TO
7/30/09 10:21:05 BE A LITTLE LONGER.
7/30/09 10:21:08 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GET
7/30/09 10:21:10 RID OF 5 AND DEAL WITH ALL THE
7/30/09 10:21:12 COMMITTEE REPORTS AND THEN COME
7/30/09 10:21:12 BACK IN 5 MINUTES.
7/30/09 10:21:15 I THINK WE CAN
7/30/09 10:21:18 DO
7/30/09 10:21:20 IS THAT.
7/30/09 10:21:22 >> MR.CHAIRMAN, WE HAD PEOPLE
7/30/09 10:21:23 INVOLVED IN SPECIAL EVENTS, I
7/30/09 10:21:25 WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE
7/30/09 10:21:26 ALL RECOGNIZED IF THEY WOULD
7/30/09 10:21:27 JUST STAND AN THOSE THAT ARE
7/30/09 10:21:29 WATCHING, THIS IS A HUGE
7/30/09 10:21:31 ACCOMPLISHMENT BRINGING ALL
7/30/09 10:21:32 THESE PIECES TOGETHER AND IT
7/30/09 10:21:35 HAS REALLY BEEN A TEAM EFFORT.
7/30/09 10:21:35 TOTALLY APPLAUD THEM.
7/30/09 10:21:36 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 10:21:39 IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND.
7/30/09 10:21:40 [ APPLAUSE ]
7/30/09 10:21:43 >> WOULD YOU
7/30/09 10:21:49 STAND UP, PLEASE.
7/30/09 10:21:53 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
7/30/09 10:21:56 ITEM 5
7/30/09 10:21:58 TO BE READ.
7/30/09 10:22:00 >> COUNCILWOMAN MILLER.
7/30/09 10:22:00 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 10:22:03 >> I MOVE AN
7/30/09 10:22:03 ORDINANCE.
7/30/09 10:22:04 >> SECOND.
7/30/09 10:22:07 >> ENCROACHMENT PROPOSED CANOY
7/30/09 10:22:10 OVERHANG BY THE COUNTY SCHOOL
7/30/09 10:22:13 BOARD OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND
7/30/09 10:22:15 MORE PARTICULAR HEREIN COVENANT
7/30/09 10:22:17 CONDITIONS AN AGREEMENTS AS
7/30/09 10:22:19 MORE PARTICULARS HEREIN PROVIDE
7/30/09 10:22:19 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
7/30/09 10:22:22 >> MOVE TO
7/30/09 10:22:27 SECOND.
7/30/09 10:22:27 SECONDED.
7/30/09 10:22:30 >> MOTION CARRIED
7/30/09 10:22:33 WITH MR.
7/30/09 10:22:34 FELDER BEING ABSENT OF THE
7/30/09 10:22:34 VOTE.
7/30/09 10:22:37 >> WE WILL MOVE TO OUR
7/30/09 10:22:40 COMMITTEE
7/30/09 10:22:43 REPORTS
7/30/09 10:22:45 REAL QUICKLY.
7/30/09 10:22:45 COUNCILWOMAN MILLER.
7/30/09 10:22:47 >> RESOLUTION 6 THROUGH 15.
7/30/09 10:22:50 >> I WANT TO RESPOND NUMBER 12
7/30/09 10:22:52 AND I SEE THE CHIEF IN ORDER.
7/30/09 10:22:53 I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BUT I
7/30/09 10:22:54 DO HAVE A CONCERN THAT THIS
7/30/09 10:22:57 PROJECT IS GOING TO COST THE
7/30/09 10:23:00 CITY 5 MILLION
7/30/09 10:23:01 OVER A FIVE-YEAR
7/30/09 10:23:01 PERIOD OF TIME.
7/30/09 10:23:04 THAT IS MATCHING MONEY FROM THE
7/30/09 10:23:04 FEDS.
7/30/09 10:23:05 HOWEVER, HIRING 36 FIREFIGHTERS
7/30/09 10:23:06 AND I HAVE BEEN INFORMED AND
7/30/09 10:23:08 TOLD AT THE END OF THE CONTRACT
7/30/09 10:23:09 IF THERE IS NO MONEY AVAILABLE
7/30/09 10:23:11 THAT THOSE PERSONS WOULD BE
7/30/09 10:23:13 NOTIFIED AND THEY WILL NOT BE
7/30/09 10:23:14 RETAINED IN THOSE POSITIONS.
7/30/09 10:23:16 I THINK THAT'S THE INFORMATION
7/30/09 10:23:17 THAT IS CORRECT.
7/30/09 10:23:19 IS THAT ACCURATE, CHIEF?
7/30/09 10:23:19 >> YES.
7/30/09 10:23:20 >> I JUST WANT US TO UNDERSTAND
7/30/09 10:23:23 I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT BUT --
7/30/09 10:23:25 YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THE MIC
7/30/09 10:23:26 ON THE RECORD?
7/30/09 10:23:28 I JUST WANT US TO UNDERSTAND
7/30/09 10:23:31 THAT WITH THIS GRANT, A GOOD
7/30/09 10:23:33 GRANT AND HIRES 36 FIREFIGHTERS
7/30/09 10:23:36 BUT IT REQUIRES THE CITY TO
7/30/09 10:23:37 MATCH THE DOLLARS OF 5 MILLION
7/30/09 10:23:38 OVER A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD OF TIME
7/30/09 10:23:41 AND IF THE CITY IS NOT IN A
7/30/09 10:23:44 POSITION
7/30/09 10:23:47 TO CONTINUE THAT IN
7/30/09 10:23:48 POSITION THOSE FIREFIGHTERS
7/30/09 10:23:51 HIRED TO SERVE
7/30/09 10:23:52 WOULD NOT
7/30/09 10:23:53 CONTINUE TO BE CONTRACTED?
7/30/09 10:23:56 >> IT IS
7/30/09 10:23:57 A MATCHING GRANT.
7/30/09 10:23:57 DECREASING SCALE DECREASING
7/30/09 10:23:59 DOWN TO THE FIFTH YEAR WHEN THE
7/30/09 10:24:02 CITY PICKS UP THE ENTIRE COST.
7/30/09 10:24:05 IT IS ABOUT A $4 MILLION AMOUNT
7/30/09 10:24:07 FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND
7/30/09 10:24:08 OVER 5 MILLION FROM THE CITY.
7/30/09 10:24:10 IT DOES ALLOW US TO IMMEDIATELY
7/30/09 10:24:13 HIRE 36
7/30/09 10:24:16 FIREFIGHTERS WHICH
7/30/09 10:24:16 ADDRESSES 710 AND STAFFING.
7/30/09 10:24:18 THE OTHER BENEFIT OF THIS IS WE
7/30/09 10:24:21 ARE COMMITTED TO HIRE AT LEAST
7/30/09 10:24:22 30% OF UNDER UTILIZED CLASSES
7/30/09 10:24:24 AND WE WILL HOLD THAT.
7/30/09 10:24:26 IN FACT, WE WILL EXCEED THAT
7/30/09 10:24:26 AMOUNT.
7/30/09 10:24:27 AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIND THE
7/30/09 10:24:29 FUNDS THROUGH THE NEXT FIVE
7/30/09 10:24:31 YEARS TO CONTINUE FUNDING THOSE
7/30/09 10:24:31 POSITIONS.
7/30/09 10:24:31 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 10:24:32 >> YES, SIR.
7/30/09 10:24:33 >> JUST ONE REMARK EVEN THOUGH
7/30/09 10:24:35 I AGREE WITH THE CHIEF, I AGREE
7/30/09 10:24:36 WITH WHAT YOU SAID.
7/30/09 10:24:39 I THINK THROUGH ATTRITION IN
7/30/09 10:24:42 FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WHO KNOWS
7/30/09 10:24:43 WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
7/30/09 10:24:45 >> I JUST WANT TO STATE IN
7/30/09 10:24:48 TERMS OF HARD ECONOMIC
7/30/09 10:24:49 TIMES.
7/30/09 10:24:49 MOVED.
7/30/09 10:24:50 SECONDED.
7/30/09 10:24:52 ALL MANY FAVOR?
7/30/09 10:24:53 >> AYE.
7/30/09 10:24:56 >> COMMITTEE PARK AND
7/30/09 10:24:57 RECREATION COUNCIL.
7/30/09 10:24:57 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 10:25:00 ON ITEM 20 WHICH IS
7/30/09 10:25:04 RELATED TO
7/30/09 10:25:06 THE GARDENS AND PARK I TOOK A
7/30/09 10:25:07 TOUR THE OTHER DAY AND IT IS
7/30/09 10:25:10 GOING TO BE SPECTACULAR
7/30/09 10:25:11 AND I
7/30/09 10:25:12 ENCOURAGE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS
7/30/09 10:25:15 TO SEE IT WITHIN ITS
7/30/09 10:25:16 RAW STATE.
7/30/09 10:25:19 IT SHOULD BE FINISHED WITHIN
7/30/09 10:25:22 SIX MONTHS.
7/30/09 10:25:22 VERY EXCITING.
7/30/09 10:25:24 >> I WANTED TO SEC WHAT YOU HAD
7/30/09 10:25:26 TO SAY AND SAY THAT I WENT ON A
7/30/09 10:25:30 TOUR A MONTH OR SO AGO
7/30/09 10:25:30 AND THIS
7/30/09 10:25:33 IS THE FIRST
7/30/09 10:25:35 TIME WHEN KYLE
7/30/09 10:25:35 GARDEN CAME UP.
7/30/09 10:25:37 I HAVEN'T PULLED IT TO ASK A
7/30/09 10:25:40 LOT OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE I
7/30/09 10:25:40 WAS
7/30/09 10:25:43 SO IMPRESSED AND JUST HAPPEN TO
7/30/09 10:25:46 SEE THE
7/30/09 10:25:48 INCREDIBLE JOB AND THE
7/30/09 10:25:49 CONTRACTOR --I CAN'T REMEMBER
7/30/09 10:25:52 THEIR NAME --WHO ARE WORKING
7/30/09 10:25:54 ON THE PARK ARE DOING TO
7/30/09 10:25:57 RESTORE AND KEEP THAT PARK IN
7/30/09 10:26:00 THE CONDITION THAT
7/30/09 10:26:01 WE CAN
7/30/09 10:26:02 HOPEFULLY EVENTUALLY RESTORE TO
7/30/09 10:26:05 ITS FORMER BEAUTY SO I'M REALLY
7/30/09 10:26:07 HAPPY ABOUT IT AND WANTED TO
7/30/09 10:26:10 THANK EVERYONE FOR
7/30/09 10:26:13 LISTENING TO
7/30/09 10:26:15 THE KYLEY SPORTERS.
7/30/09 10:26:18 >> ALL IN FAVOR
7/30/09 10:26:19 SAY AYE.
7/30/09 10:26:19 AYE.
7/30/09 10:26:21 >> I MOVE ITEMS 21 THROUGH 28.
7/30/09 10:26:22 >> SECOND.
7/30/09 10:26:24 >> MOVED AND SECOND.
7/30/09 10:26:27 ALL IN
7/30/09 10:26:30 FAVOR
7/30/09 10:26:31 SAY AYE.
7/30/09 10:26:31 FINANCE COMMITTEE.
7/30/09 10:26:31 THE MAYOR.
7/30/09 10:26:33 THEN WE NEED STAFF TO COME UP
7/30/09 10:26:36 AN ADDRESS THE
7/30/09 10:26:39 ISSUE ON
7/30/09 10:26:40 33.
7/30/09 10:26:43 >> NUMBER
7/30/09 10:26:43 29 THROUGH 34.
7/30/09 10:26:45 >> ITEM 29 IS SUBSTITUTION FOR
7/30/09 10:26:48 THE ADDENDUM THAT'S BEEN
7/30/09 10:26:48 APPROVED.
7/30/09 10:26:51 ITEM NUMBER 33 I DO HAVE
7/30/09 10:26:51 A
7/30/09 10:26:53 REQUEST BY STAFF TO DO A
7/30/09 10:26:54 CORRECTION THAT THE APPROVAL
7/30/09 10:26:57 FOR THE FIRST AM ENMENT OF THE
7/30/09 10:27:00 AGREEMENT AND WHEREAS
7/30/09 10:27:03 CLAUSE
7/30/09 10:27:05 WAS INADVERTENTLY MISSED.
7/30/09 10:27:07 >> THE PACKAGE YOU HAVE IS
7/30/09 10:27:07 COMPLETE.
7/30/09 10:27:08 THE RESOLUTION ITSELF LEFT OUT
7/30/09 10:27:10 THE WORD DEALING WITH THE 1st
7/30/09 10:27:13 AMENDMENT BUT YOU HAVE ALL THE
7/30/09 10:27:13 BACKUP MATERIAL.
7/30/09 10:27:15 IT WAS JUST A TYPO ON THE
7/30/09 10:27:16 RESOLUTION ITSELF.
7/30/09 10:27:19 >> THAT WILL CURE THAT.
7/30/09 10:27:19 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 10:27:22 SO DO I NEED TO DO THOSE
7/30/09 10:27:22 SEPARATELY?
7/30/09 10:27:23 >> NO.
7/30/09 10:27:26 >> I MOVE ITEM 29 WITH A
7/30/09 10:27:26 SUBSTITUTE.
7/30/09 10:27:28 >> AND 33 WITH A CORRECTION.
7/30/09 10:27:28 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 10:27:30 >> MOVED AND SECOND.
7/30/09 10:27:33 ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
7/30/09 10:27:36 SAYING
7/30/09 10:27:36 AYE.
7/30/09 10:27:37 >> AYE.
7/30/09 10:27:38 >> OPPOSERSES?
7/30/09 10:27:41 >> MR.CHAIRMAN I
7/30/09 10:27:44 WOULD LIKE
7/30/09 10:27:46 TO
7/30/09 10:27:47 MOVE APPROVAL OF --
7/30/09 10:27:48 >> YES?
7/30/09 10:27:51 >> I JUST WANT TO SPEAK ON MY
7/30/09 10:27:54 FEELINGS ON --I DON'T MIND
7/30/09 10:27:54 THE
7/30/09 10:27:57 CITY MAKING --IN FACT, I
7/30/09 10:28:00 ENCOURAGE APPROVING LOANS
7/30/09 10:28:03 TO
7/30/09 10:28:06 ANY 501 C3s.
7/30/09 10:28:08 IN PAST ADMINISTRATIONS I HAVE
7/30/09 10:28:10 BEEN AT I HAVE GOTTEN BURNED.
7/30/09 10:28:13 IF THESE LOANS COME BACK AND
7/30/09 10:28:15 THE CITY IS NOT RESPONSIBLE --
7/30/09 10:28:17 NOT THAT IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN
7/30/09 10:28:18 BUT IT COULD HAPPEN I WOULD
7/30/09 10:28:20 LIKE TO SEE THAT IN THE FUTURE
7/30/09 10:28:21 WHEN THESE ARRANGEMENTS ARE
7/30/09 10:28:24 MADE BETWEEN THE
7/30/09 10:28:25 CITY
7/30/09 10:28:26 ADMINISTRATION, THE 501C3.
7/30/09 10:28:28 IF IT IS LEGAL AND I'M SURE WE
7/30/09 10:28:31 HAVE GOT MORE
7/30/09 10:28:33 LAWYERS IN
7/30/09 10:28:34 ATTENDANCE THAN AT THE
7/30/09 10:28:35 COURTHOUSE THAT THE MEMBERS
7/30/09 10:28:37 WITH THEM, ANY ONE OF THEM THAT
7/30/09 10:28:38 IS ASKING FOR A LOAN FROM THE
7/30/09 10:28:41 CITY SIGN OFF AS RESPONSIBLE
7/30/09 10:28:43 PERSONAL GUARANTEES FOR THE
7/30/09 10:28:43 LOANS.
7/30/09 10:28:44 IN OTHER WORDS, THE LOAN GOES
7/30/09 10:28:46 BAD THEY DON'T COME AFTER THE
7/30/09 10:28:46 CITY.
7/30/09 10:28:49 THEY GOT TO GO AFTER THE PEOPLE
7/30/09 10:28:52 WHO
7/30/09 10:28:55 GOT THE MONEY.
7/30/09 10:28:58 >> APPROVAL OF ITEMS
7/30/09 10:29:01 35 TO 46.
7/30/09 10:29:01 >> SECOND.
7/30/09 10:29:04 >> MY LAST
7/30/09 10:29:06 ONE.
7/30/09 10:29:07 >> THANK YOU, MR.CHAIRMAN.
7/30/09 10:29:10 >> I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT
7/30/09 10:29:13 NUMBER 43 AND
7/30/09 10:29:16 THANK OUR GREEN
7/30/09 10:29:18 OFFICER MR. TOM SPELLING FOR
7/30/09 10:29:19 IMPLEMENTING THIS GREAT PROGRAM
7/30/09 10:29:22 WHICH IS THE GREEN BUSINESS
7/30/09 10:29:24 DESIGNATION PROGRAM WHICH
7/30/09 10:29:25 ALLOWS BUSINESSES TO APPLY TO
7/30/09 10:29:28 BE DESIGNATED BY THE CITY
7/30/09 10:29:29 AS
7/30/09 10:29:30 ACTUALLY BEING SUSTAINABLE.
7/30/09 10:29:31 GROWN BUSINESSES AND THEIR
7/30/09 10:29:32 PRACTICE.
7/30/09 10:29:35 AND I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT
7/30/09 10:29:38 A YEAR OR
7/30/09 10:29:40 SO AGO TWO YOUNG
7/30/09 10:29:42 BUSINESSMEN CAME TO ME AND TOLD
7/30/09 10:29:43 ME, SUGGESTED THIS WHOLE
7/30/09 10:29:45 PROGRAM AND THEY HAD IT ALL
7/30/09 10:29:48 WRITTEN UP AND THEY SPOKE WITH
7/30/09 10:29:49 MR. SNELLING AND HE INVITED
7/30/09 10:29:51 THEM TO BE ON THE GREEN
7/30/09 10:29:54 ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THOSE
7/30/09 10:29:57 TWO PEOPLE WERE JACK AND
7/30/09 10:29:58 TIM SO
7/30/09 10:29:59 I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR COMING
7/30/09 10:30:02 TO THE CITY AND
7/30/09 10:30:04 PROPOSING THIS.
7/30/09 10:30:04 THAT'S IT.
7/30/09 10:30:04 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 10:30:06 THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
7/30/09 10:30:09 IT IS SUCH AN INNOVATIVE
7/30/09 10:30:09 PROGRAM.
7/30/09 10:30:11 DOESN'T COST ANYTHING.
7/30/09 10:30:11 IT ENCOURAGES SUSTAINABLE
7/30/09 10:30:11 BEHAVIOR.
7/30/09 10:30:14 IT IS ALSO GOOD AND IT
7/30/09 10:30:17 IS A
7/30/09 10:30:20 GREAT PUBLIC PRIVATE
7/30/09 10:30:23 PARTNERSHIP OF AN EFFORT.
7/30/09 10:30:24 IT IS AN EXCELLENT PROGRAM.
7/30/09 10:30:27 I WANTED TO POINT OUT NUMBER
7/30/09 10:30:28 38.
7/30/09 10:30:31 WHEN THE DEPARTMENT OF
7/30/09 10:30:32 TRANSPORTATION MOVES A HOUSE WE
7/30/09 10:30:34 GET THE PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE
7/30/09 10:30:37 OF
7/30/09 10:30:40 THAT FOR OUR
7/30/09 10:30:47 REVOLVING
7/30/09 10:30:47 ACCOUNT.
7/30/09 10:30:50 IT T IS GREAT EVEN IN THESE BAD
7/30/09 10:30:53 TIMES WE ARE STILL MOVING
7/30/09 10:30:54 HISTORIC HOUSES AND MOVING THEM
7/30/09 10:30:55 AND GETTING THE MONEY.
7/30/09 10:30:58 >> ALL IN FAVOR
7/30/09 10:31:01 SAY AYE.
7/30/09 10:31:02 >> AYE.
7/30/09 10:31:03 >> OPPOSERS?
7/30/09 10:31:04 COUNCILWOMAN MILLER?
7/30/09 10:31:07 >> I MOVE RESOLUTION 47,
7/30/09 10:31:08 48,
7/30/09 10:31:08 49.
7/30/09 10:31:08 >> SECOND.
7/30/09 10:31:11 ALL IN FAVOR
7/30/09 10:31:13 SAY AYE?
7/30/09 10:31:13 >> AYE.
7/30/09 10:31:14 >> SET THE PUBLIC HEARING.
7/30/09 10:31:17 >> I MOVE 50 AND 51
7/30/09 10:31:19 TO BE SET,
7/30/09 10:31:22 MR. CHAIRMAN TO BE SET
7/30/09 10:31:24 WITH THE
7/30/09 10:31:24 CONSENT.
7/30/09 10:31:27 >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY
7/30/09 10:31:30 AYE.
7/30/09 10:31:32 >> AYE.
7/30/09 10:31:33 >> OPPOSED?
7/30/09 10:31:35 STAFF REPORT.
7/30/09 10:31:38 LET'S MOVE, GO BACK.
7/30/09 10:31:39 KAREN PALACE?
7/30/09 10:31:39 >> MR. CHAIRMAN?
7/30/09 10:31:40 >> YES.
7/30/09 10:31:43 WHAT ABOUT GOING TO 54?
7/30/09 10:31:45 >> WELL, LET ME --
7/30/09 10:31:45 ADMINISTRATION.
7/30/09 10:31:47 KAREN IS IN THE BUILDING AND I
7/30/09 10:31:49 SAID WE WOULD TAKE THAT RIGHT
7/30/09 10:31:52 UP TO GET HER
7/30/09 10:31:53 OUT OF HERE.
7/30/09 10:31:54 SHE IS HERE.
7/30/09 10:31:55 SHE IS NOT WE WILL MOVE ON AND
7/30/09 10:31:58 SHE WILL HAVE TO WAIT.
7/30/09 10:32:10 >>
7/30/09 10:32:13 I'M
7/30/09 10:32:15 HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 62
7/30/09 10:32:18 REGARDING A RESOLUTION THAT
7/30/09 10:32:19 WE
7/30/09 10:32:20 HAVE REQUESTED FOR REVIEW.
7/30/09 10:32:21 THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WITHIN
7/30/09 10:32:23 THE PARKS AN RECREATION
7/30/09 10:32:25 DEPARTMENT AGAIN AS I MENTIONED
7/30/09 10:32:25 EARLIER ABOUT REALLY
7/30/09 10:32:28 CONSOLIDATING ALL OF OUR
7/30/09 10:32:31 RESOLUTIONS, ALL
7/30/09 10:32:32 OF OUR
7/30/09 10:32:34 DIRECTOR FEES THAT HAVE BEEN
7/30/09 10:32:34 OUT THERE.
7/30/09 10:32:36 THERE ARE ABOUT 11 DIFFERENT
7/30/09 10:32:37 RESOLUTIONS AND EXECUTIVE
7/30/09 10:32:38 ORDERS AND THINGS OUT THERE FOR
7/30/09 10:32:39 PARKS AN RECK RAGE AS A WHOLE
7/30/09 10:32:41 SO THIS REALLY CLEANS THAT UP
7/30/09 10:32:42 MUCH THE OTHER PART OF WHAT WE
7/30/09 10:32:45 HAVE DONE IS GONE THROUGH AND
7/30/09 10:32:47 STANDARDIZED ALL OF OUR
7/30/09 10:32:50 FACILITIES BASE ON SQUARE
7/30/09 10:32:53 FOOTAGE AND NUMBER OF FOLKS.
7/30/09 10:32:54 WHAT ELEMENTS ARE AVAILABLE IN
7/30/09 10:32:56 THOSE FACILITIES AS WELL.
7/30/09 10:32:57 IT GOES THROUGH AND
7/30/09 10:33:00 STANDARDIZES ALL OF OUR
7/30/09 10:33:00 PROGRAMS.
7/30/09 10:33:00 FEES.
7/30/09 10:33:02 ESTABLISHES RANGES FOR OUR
7/30/09 10:33:02 PROGRAMS.
7/30/09 10:33:04 SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO KIND
7/30/09 10:33:07 OF MOVE UP AND
7/30/09 10:33:08 DOWN THE RANGE
7/30/09 10:33:09 BASED ON OUR MARKET AND WHAT'S
7/30/09 10:33:11 NECESSARY AS FAR AS ANY PROGRAM
7/30/09 10:33:13 EXPENSES OR ANYTHING
7/30/09 10:33:13 ADDITIONAL.
7/30/09 10:33:16 IT ALSO GOES
7/30/09 10:33:17 THROUGH OUR
7/30/09 10:33:19 AQUATICS PROGRAMMING, OUTLINES
7/30/09 10:33:22 THAT AND IT GOES THROUGH ALL OF
7/30/09 10:33:24 OUR VENDORS AND SUCH.
7/30/09 10:33:24 SO IT REALLY LINES OUT
7/30/09 10:33:27 EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IN PARKS
7/30/09 10:33:28 AN RECREATION CURRENTLY.
7/30/09 10:33:30 IDENTIFIES A FEE AND/OR A RANGE
7/30/09 10:33:31 OF FEES AND HAS BEEN
7/30/09 10:33:34 ESTABLISHED BASED ON BENCH
7/30/09 10:33:36 MARKING WITH OTHER
7/30/09 10:33:36 MUNICIPALITIES.
7/30/09 10:33:37 LOOKING AT WHAT WE ARE
7/30/09 10:33:39 CURRENTLY DOING AND OPERATING
7/30/09 10:33:40 WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE IN TRYING
7/30/09 10:33:42 TO ESTABLISH A FEE THAT'S
7/30/09 10:33:43 APPROPRIATE AN WE ARE STILL WAY
7/30/09 10:33:44 BELOW MARKET VALUE AND I'M
7/30/09 10:33:46 GOING TO HIT ON A COUPLE OF KEY
7/30/09 10:33:48 ITEMS THROUGHOUT THE RESOLUTION
7/30/09 10:33:50 THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT.
7/30/09 10:33:52 ONE OF WHICH IS OUR YOUTH
7/30/09 10:33:53 PROGRAM FEE.
7/30/09 10:33:55 WE CURRENTLY HAVE A YOUTH
7/30/09 10:33:57 PROGRAM FEE ON THE BOOKS FOR
7/30/09 10:33:59 AFTER SCHOOL WHICH IS A $25
7/30/09 10:33:59 FEE.
7/30/09 10:34:02 IT HAS BEEN
7/30/09 10:34:04 IN PLACE --IN 2000
7/30/09 10:34:05 WAS THE LAST MAJOR CHANGES THAT
7/30/09 10:34:07 CAME UP FROM PARKS AND REC.
7/30/09 10:34:09 IT HAD BEEN ON THE BOOKS
7/30/09 10:34:11 EARLIER THAN THAT IT JUST HAS
7/30/09 10:34:12 NEVER BEEN IMPLEMENTED.
7/30/09 10:34:13 WE HAVE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE IN
7/30/09 10:34:16 THE CITY OF TAMPA TO BE ABLE TO
7/30/09 10:34:17 FULLY SUBSIDIZE THE AFTER
7/30/09 10:34:18 SCHOOL PROGRAM.
7/30/09 10:34:19 UNFORTUNATELY WITH THE TIMES
7/30/09 10:34:21 THAT WE ARE IN AND CONTINUED
7/30/09 10:34:23 NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN
7/30/09 10:34:25 REDUCE OR BRING IN ADDITIONAL
7/30/09 10:34:26 REVENUES IT CAN REDUCE OUR
7/30/09 10:34:26 COST.
7/30/09 10:34:29 WE LOOK AT A STOP
7/30/09 10:34:31 GAP MEASURE
7/30/09 10:34:32 OF PUTTING THAT INTO PLACE.
7/30/09 10:34:35 IT WOULD BRING OUR AFTER SCHOOL
7/30/09 10:34:37 FEE TO $25 A WEEK VERSUS
7/30/09 10:34:40 ESSENTIALLY RIGHT NOW OUR AFTER
7/30/09 10:34:41 SCHOOL PROGRAM IS FREE.
7/30/09 10:34:42 EVERYONE PAYS AN ACTIVITY FEE
7/30/09 10:34:44 NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO IN THE
7/30/09 10:34:46 CITY AS FAR AS A $12 ACTIVITY
7/30/09 10:34:48 FEE AND ESSENTIALLY THERE IS NO
7/30/09 10:34:50 OTHER ADDITIONAL FEES FOR AFTER
7/30/09 10:34:51 SCHOOL UNLESS THEY ARE
7/30/09 10:34:54 PURCHASING A T-SHIRT OR DOING
7/30/09 10:34:55 SOME KIND OF SPECIAL EVENT.
7/30/09 10:34:56 THAT'S OUR CURRENT FEE
7/30/09 10:34:57 STRUCTURE FOR AFTER SCHOOL AND
7/30/09 10:35:00 THAT'S WHAT WE
7/30/09 10:35:01 WOULD BE
7/30/09 10:35:02 PRESENTLING.
7/30/09 10:35:03 ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF
7/30/09 10:35:04 THAT IS TO PROVIDE FOR A
7/30/09 10:35:04 SLIDING SCALE.
7/30/09 10:35:06 WE KNOW IT IS TOUGH TIMES OUT
7/30/09 10:35:07 THERE, A LOT OF FOLKS IN NEED
7/30/09 10:35:10 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE
7/30/09 10:35:13 ARE
7/30/09 10:35:15 NOTTURNING ANYONE AWAY.
7/30/09 10:35:18 THOAKS FOLKS
7/30/09 10:35:19 THOSE FOLKS IN
7/30/09 10:35:22 NEED WE HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH
7/30/09 10:35:25 OUR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, WE
7/30/09 10:35:27 HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING AN
7/30/09 10:35:28 APPROPRIATE SLIDING SCALE THAT
7/30/09 10:35:28 WORKS.
7/30/09 10:35:30 BE ABLE TO WORK WITH DIFFERENT
7/30/09 10:35:32 AGENCIES OUT THERE TO HELP US
7/30/09 10:35:34 PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT THEIR
7/30/09 10:35:37 CHILDREN NEED IN
7/30/09 10:35:39 AFTER SCHOOL.
7/30/09 10:35:40 IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR OUR ABILITY
7/30/09 10:35:42 TO MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE ALL OF
7/30/09 10:35:44 THE FOLKS THAT ARE THERE
7/30/09 10:35:45 ATTENDING THOSE PROGRAMS.
7/30/09 10:35:48 ONE OF THE PARTNERSHIPS WE ARE
7/30/09 10:35:49 LOOKING WITH, TALKING WITH
7/30/09 10:35:50 DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS TO BE
7/30/09 10:35:53 ABLE TO HELP WITH DIFFERENT
7/30/09 10:35:53 SOCIAL SERVICESES AND SUCH.
7/30/09 10:35:55 WE HAVE A STAKEHOLDER GROUP AN
7/30/09 10:35:56 A LOT OF DIFFERENT SOCIAL
7/30/09 10:35:58 SERVICESES THAT WE CAN CONNECT
7/30/09 10:35:58 OUR FOLKS WITH.
7/30/09 10:35:59 THOSE FOLKS THAT DO COME WE
7/30/09 10:36:02 WILL BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEIR
7/30/09 10:36:03 FAMILIES AND THEIR CHILDREN.
7/30/09 10:36:06 >> COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO
7/30/09 10:36:06 POINT OUT.
7/30/09 10:36:09 ONE WAS, AGAIN, THANK
7/30/09 10:36:11 YOU FOR
7/30/09 10:36:12 YOUR BRIEFING AND INFORMATION.
7/30/09 10:36:15 WE NOTE A LOT OF FEES ARE
7/30/09 10:36:16 BEING
7/30/09 10:36:17 RAISED IN PARTICULAR GIVEN THE
7/30/09 10:36:19 IMPACT OF THE ECONOMY.
7/30/09 10:36:21 BUT ALSO THIS GOES BACK AND I
7/30/09 10:36:24 RAISE THE ISSUE BEFORE OF THE
7/30/09 10:36:27 RAISING OF THE HOMESTEAD
7/30/09 10:36:28 EXEMPTIONS FROM 25,000 TO
7/30/09 10:36:31 50,000 WHICH HAS HAD AN IMPACT
7/30/09 10:36:33 ON THE STATE AS WELL AS
7/30/09 10:36:34 MUNICIPALITIES AND I RECOGNIZE
7/30/09 10:36:36 THAT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT TAXES,
7/30/09 10:36:37 FEES, WHATEVER.
7/30/09 10:36:39 ALL I KNOW IS IT IS MONEY
7/30/09 10:36:40 COMING OUT OF PEOPLE'S POCKETS.
7/30/09 10:36:41 IT IS THE SAME MONEY.
7/30/09 10:36:44 YOU CAN CALL
7/30/09 10:36:47 IT FEES, TAXES,
7/30/09 10:36:47 GIFTS.
7/30/09 10:36:48 IT IS DOLLARS COMING OUT OF
7/30/09 10:36:48 YOUR POCKET.
7/30/09 10:36:49 IT WILL BE INTERESTING IF
7/30/09 10:36:51 SOMEONE DID A STUDY TO LOOK AT
7/30/09 10:36:54 WHAT IS THE IMPACT?
7/30/09 10:36:57 WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE OF THE
7/30/09 10:36:58 HOMESTEAD BEING RAISED VERSUS
7/30/09 10:37:01 NOW ALL THE FEES THAT ARE BEING
7/30/09 10:37:03 RAISED OR IMPLEMENTED.
7/30/09 10:37:04 IS IT A REAL COST SAVING?
7/30/09 10:37:05 I DON'T KNOW.
7/30/09 10:37:07 BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE ARE
7/30/09 10:37:09 HAVING TO RAISE FEES NOW IN THE
7/30/09 10:37:12 HISTORY OF THIS COUNTY AND THIS
7/30/09 10:37:15 CITY THAT HAS NEVER
7/30/09 10:37:16 BEEN RAISED
7/30/09 10:37:16 BEFORE.
7/30/09 10:37:17 HOWEVER THAT HAS TO DO BECAUSE
7/30/09 10:37:20 YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IMPACT
7/30/09 10:37:22 AND SERVICES.
7/30/09 10:37:22 SERVICES TO CONSTITUENTS,
7/30/09 10:37:23 SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY AND
7/30/09 10:37:26 SO YOU CAN DO ONE OF TWO
7/30/09 10:37:26 THINGS.
7/30/09 10:37:28 EITHER YOU RAISE THE FEE OR
7/30/09 10:37:29 ELIMINATE THE FEES.
7/30/09 10:37:31 PLUS THE FACT GIVEN ALL THE
7/30/09 10:37:32 ELIMINATION WE HAVE A LOT OF
7/30/09 10:37:33 STAFF NOW HAVE MORE WORK.
7/30/09 10:37:35 I DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND
7/30/09 10:37:35 THAT.
7/30/09 10:37:38 WHICH ALSO SLOWS DOWN THE
7/30/09 10:37:38 PROCESS.
7/30/09 10:37:39 AS WELL BECAUSE NOW BECAUSE YOU
7/30/09 10:37:41 HAVE MORE WORK TO DO THAN YOU
7/30/09 10:37:42 DID BEFORE GIVEN THE FACT YOU
7/30/09 10:37:43 ARE CUTTING STAFF, LATION OFF
7/30/09 10:37:45 STAFF, CUTTING HERE AND DOING
7/30/09 10:37:46 THAT.
7/30/09 10:37:47 HOWEVER, WITH THIS BEING SAID,
7/30/09 10:37:50 I NEED YOU TO SAY CLEARLY ON
7/30/09 10:37:52 THE RECORD AGAIN THAT YOU HAVE
7/30/09 10:37:54 ESTABLISHED FEES WITH A SLIDING
7/30/09 10:37:57 SCALE AND THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE
7/30/09 10:37:59 AT POVERTY, BELOW POVERTY WOULD
7/30/09 10:37:59 NOT BE TURNED AWAY.
7/30/09 10:38:02 >> THAT IS OUR PLAN THAT HAS
7/30/09 10:38:04 ALWAYS BEEN OUR PLAN.
7/30/09 10:38:06 EVEN WITH THE $12 FEE WE HAVE
7/30/09 10:38:07 FOLKS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO
7/30/09 10:38:08 PLAY THAT.
7/30/09 10:38:09 WE HAVE WORK WITH A LOT OF
7/30/09 10:38:10 LOCAL AREA CHURCHES THAT HAVE
7/30/09 10:38:11 FUNDED WITH PEOPLE IN THE PAST.
7/30/09 10:38:12 WE HAVE WORKED WITH THIS
7/30/09 10:38:13 FAMILY.
7/30/09 10:38:15 WE HAVE NOT AS THE CITY OF
7/30/09 10:38:16 TAMPA TURNED ANYONE AWAY FOR
7/30/09 10:38:18 ANY SERVICES AND THINGS WE KNOW
7/30/09 10:38:19 THEY ARE IN NEED OF.
7/30/09 10:38:21 IF THEY BRING IT TO AUR
7/30/09 10:38:22 ATTENTION WE WILL WORK THROUGH
7/30/09 10:38:23 IT WITH THEM.
7/30/09 10:38:24 OUR FRIENDS AT TAMPA RECREATION
7/30/09 10:38:26 HAVE BEEN ON BOARD WITH US FOR
7/30/09 10:38:28 YEARS AND BEEN SUPPORTIVE IN
7/30/09 10:38:29 OUR SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAMS AND
7/30/09 10:38:29 STUFF.
7/30/09 10:38:31 BECAUSE OUR FEES HAVE BEEN SO
7/30/09 10:38:33 LOW WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD
7/30/09 10:38:35 ANYBODY THAT HAS BEEN NEEDED TO
7/30/09 10:38:38 UTILIZE THOSE TERMS IN THE
7/30/09 10:38:38 PAST.
7/30/09 10:38:39 NOW KNOWING THEY ARE STILL A
7/30/09 10:38:40 PARTNER WITH US, STILL WILLING
7/30/09 10:38:41 TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES THEY
7/30/09 10:38:43 ARE GOING TO WORK WITH US AS WE
7/30/09 10:38:45 INSTITUTE THESE ADDITIONAL FEES
7/30/09 10:38:45 AS WELL.
7/30/09 10:38:47 WE WILL BE WORKING WITH OTHER
7/30/09 10:38:49 PARTNERS I'VE TALKED TO A LOT
7/30/09 10:38:52 OF THE DIFFERENT
7/30/09 10:38:52 NEIGHBORHOOD
7/30/09 10:38:54 ASSOCIATIONS ESPECIALLY IN THE
7/30/09 10:38:57 EAST TAMPA AREA TO SEE
7/30/09 10:38:58 HOW THEY
7/30/09 10:39:01 MAY BE ABLE TO ENGAGE
7/30/09 10:39:01 AND
7/30/09 10:39:01 ASSIST.
7/30/09 10:39:04 THERE ARE LOTS
7/30/09 10:39:05 OF OTHERS
7/30/09 10:39:05 AGENCIES.
7/30/09 10:39:07 CHILDREN'S BOARD WE HAVE HAD
7/30/09 10:39:08 DISCUSSIONS WITH.
7/30/09 10:39:10 THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE
7/30/09 10:39:11 WILLING TO TALK AND MAKE SURE
7/30/09 10:39:13 WE DON'T TURN ANYONE AWAY.
7/30/09 10:39:15 >> THAT WAS THE KEY WITH BEING
7/30/09 10:39:16 ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM AND STILL
7/30/09 10:39:19 BEING ABLE TO HAVE THEM
7/30/09 10:39:20 IN THE
7/30/09 10:39:20 NEIGHBORHOOD.
7/30/09 10:39:22 THE OPTION WAS CLOSING DOWN
7/30/09 10:39:24 FACILITIES AND LAY PEOPLE OFF
7/30/09 10:39:27 THAT WERE PARTICIPATING IN THAT
7/30/09 10:39:27 ACTIVITY.
7/30/09 10:39:28 >> ONE MORE THING.
7/30/09 10:39:29 IN THIS ORDINANCE, I DON'T KNOW
7/30/09 10:39:31 IF COUNCIL IS AWARE OF THIS OR
7/30/09 10:39:34 NOT, BUT THERE IS A 5%
7/30/09 10:39:35 INCREASE
7/30/09 10:39:36 ANNUALLY GIVEN THE
7/30/09 10:39:37 ADMINISTRATION RAISING FEES BY
7/30/09 10:39:37 5%.
7/30/09 10:39:40 THE QUESTION I RAISED
7/30/09 10:39:42 WITH
7/30/09 10:39:43 COUNCIL IS THAT --COUNCIL TO
7/30/09 10:39:45 DECIDE WHETHER YOU WANT TO DO
7/30/09 10:39:45 THAT OR NOT.
7/30/09 10:39:46 WHAT YOU ARE DOING AT THIS
7/30/09 10:39:49 POINT YOU ARE SAYING TO
7/30/09 10:39:50 THE
7/30/09 10:39:51 ADMINISTRATION, YOU TAKE OUR
7/30/09 10:39:53 POWER AND YOU DECIDE WHETHER
7/30/09 10:39:55 YOU WILL RAISE THESE FEES
7/30/09 10:39:55 ANNUALLY BY 5%.
7/30/09 10:39:58 I JUST WANT TO CALL THAT TO OUR
7/30/09 10:40:01 ATTENTION IN
7/30/09 10:40:04 CASE YOU HAVE NOT
7/30/09 10:40:04 REVEALED THAT.
7/30/09 10:40:05 SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT WANT THOSE
7/30/09 10:40:06 ITEMS COMING BACK EVERY YEAR.
7/30/09 10:40:08 I JUST WANT TO CALL THAT TO OUR
7/30/09 10:40:10 ATTENTION THAT IS IN THE
7/30/09 10:40:10 ORDINANCE.
7/30/09 10:40:10 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 10:40:13 >> I'M GLAD YOU TOUCHED ON THAT
7/30/09 10:40:15 BECAUSE I'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL
7/30/09 10:40:18 CALLS ABOUT A
7/30/09 10:40:18 FAMILY PACKAGE.
7/30/09 10:40:19 IF THEY HAVE MORE THAN ONE
7/30/09 10:40:21 CHILD THEY WANT TO KNOW WOULD
7/30/09 10:40:23 THEY GET A DISCOUNT IN.
7/30/09 10:40:24 >> MULTIPLE COUNTY DISCOUNT?
7/30/09 10:40:25 >> THEY WERE CONCERNED BECAUSE
7/30/09 10:40:26 I KNOW SOME SINGLE PARENTS HAVE
7/30/09 10:40:27 MORE THAN ONE CHILD AND THAT'S
7/30/09 10:40:29 WHAT THEY ARE DOING AFTER
7/30/09 10:40:30 SCHOOL TO KEEP THE KIDS UNTIL
7/30/09 10:40:31 THEY GET HOME FROM WORK AND
7/30/09 10:40:33 THEN SAYING I CAN'T PAY FOR ALL
7/30/09 10:40:33 MY KIDS.
7/30/09 10:40:35 I'M GLAD YOU TOUCHED ON THAT.
7/30/09 10:40:38 SO THEY KNOW THEY CAN STILL
7/30/09 10:40:39 TAKE THEIR CHILDREN TO THE
7/30/09 10:40:40 AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM.
7/30/09 10:40:43 >> THOSE ARE THINGS WE DO
7/30/09 10:40:45 CURRENTLY AS WELL.
7/30/09 10:40:46 >> MR. CHAIRMAN?
7/30/09 10:40:47 >> ITEM 62 IS BEING PRESENTED
7/30/09 10:40:50 TO YOU AS
7/30/09 10:40:50 A RESOLUTION.
7/30/09 10:40:52 THE RESOLUTION TAKES EFFECT
7/30/09 10:40:52 IMMEDIATELY.
7/30/09 10:40:54 DOES NOT REQUIRE A MEETING, A
7/30/09 10:40:54 PUBLIC HEARING.
7/30/09 10:40:55 THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY ONCE A
7/30/09 10:40:58 MOTION IS MADE AND IT PASSES
7/30/09 10:41:00 THE RESOLUTION WILL TAKE
7/30/09 10:41:00 EFFECT.
7/30/09 10:41:02 SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR IT WILL
7/30/09 10:41:04 NOT BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON
7/30/09 10:41:04 THIS.
7/30/09 10:41:07 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 10:41:08 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
7/30/09 10:41:11 WITH REGARD TO THAT SECTION 4
7/30/09 10:41:14 THE
7/30/09 10:41:16 RESOLUTION I THINK MISS
7/30/09 10:41:19 PALACE MAY HAVE HAD SOMETHING
7/30/09 10:41:19 TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
7/30/09 10:41:22 IS THIS A
7/30/09 10:41:23 CHANGE IN POLICY?
7/30/09 10:41:25 DON'T THEY COME TO CITY
7/30/09 10:41:25 COUNCIL.
7/30/09 10:41:27 >> MAJOR CHANGES I HAVE ALWAYS
7/30/09 10:41:28 HAD AS THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR
7/30/09 10:41:30 THE ABILITY TO SET NEW FEES AN
7/30/09 10:41:32 THINGS AS THEY COME ON LINE.
7/30/09 10:41:34 SO AS FAR AS THAT PERCENTAGE
7/30/09 10:41:36 AND ABILITY TO GO UP, THE
7/30/09 10:41:37 STAY'S ABILITY TO GO UP TO, A
7/30/09 10:41:40 GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT WAS SET
7/30/09 10:41:42 WHEN WE REINSTITUTED THE
7/30/09 10:41:43 PRESCHOOL PROGRAM BACK AT KATE
7/30/09 10:41:44 JACKSON OF THAT LANGUAGE THAT
7/30/09 10:41:45 WAS ADDED IN THERE SO YOU
7/30/09 10:41:47 DIDN'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND YOU
7/30/09 10:41:48 COULD GO UP AND DOWN IF YOU
7/30/09 10:41:50 NEEDED TO WITHIN THE RANGE FOR
7/30/09 10:41:51 THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM.
7/30/09 10:41:53 I HAVE NOT RAISED THOSE FEES
7/30/09 10:41:54 SINCE WE INITIALLY SET THEM TWO
7/30/09 10:41:56 YEARS AGO SO IT REALLY DEPENDS
7/30/09 10:41:58 ON THE PROGRAM AND WHAT THE
7/30/09 10:41:58 NEEDS ARE.
7/30/09 10:41:59 IF THERE ARE MAJOR MATERIAL
7/30/09 10:42:01 FEES THAT GO UP OR SOMETHING
7/30/09 10:42:03 ALONG THAT LINE THEN WE WOULD
7/30/09 10:42:05 LOOK TO BUMP THOSE
7/30/09 10:42:05 APPROPRIATELY.
7/30/09 10:42:06 WE HAVE DONE MINIMAL INCREASES
7/30/09 10:42:08 TO OUR ART STUDIO OFFER THE
7/30/09 10:42:09 YEARS AND IS WITHIN THE RANGE
7/30/09 10:42:10 THAT THE FEE SCHEDULE HAS
7/30/09 10:42:11 ALLOWED FOR.
7/30/09 10:42:13 WE HAVE DONE THINGS IN OUR
7/30/09 10:42:14 AQUATIC PROGRAMS AND SUCH.
7/30/09 10:42:16 WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT AND
7/30/09 10:42:19 HAVE NOT COME BACK
7/30/09 10:42:20 HOLISTICALLY
7/30/09 10:42:23 TO THE GROUP SINCE
7/30/09 10:42:24 2000 WAS THE
7/30/09 10:42:26 TIME THE WHOLE PIECE CAME
7/30/09 10:42:26 FORWARD.
7/30/09 10:42:29 >> I AM NOT
7/30/09 10:42:34 COMFORTABLE WITH
7/30/09 10:42:36 THAT CLAUSE IN THERE.
7/30/09 10:42:38 I'M GOING TO BRING UP KATE
7/30/09 10:42:39 JACKSON JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE
7/30/09 10:42:41 SLIDING SCALE WHICH IS SO
7/30/09 10:42:43 WONDERFUL AND I'M GLAD WE ARE
7/30/09 10:42:44 DOING THAT.
7/30/09 10:42:45 BUT I DIDN'T RECALL --I
7/30/09 10:42:47 REMEMBER US CHANGING THE FEES
7/30/09 10:42:49 BUT IT DID COME TO US AT THAT
7/30/09 10:42:49 POINT.
7/30/09 10:42:51 SO I THINK THE LAST TIME WE
7/30/09 10:42:53 RAISED FEES FOR PROGRAMS CITY
7/30/09 10:42:54 COUNCIL DID HAVE TO APPROVE
7/30/09 10:42:56 THAT AND I THINK IT IS PRETTY
7/30/09 10:42:59 CLEAR FROM THE RESPONSE THAT WE
7/30/09 10:43:02 HAVE GOTTEN FROM
7/30/09 10:43:03 PEOPLE WHO ARE
7/30/09 10:43:05 VERY IN NEED OF THESE PROGRAMS
7/30/09 10:43:06 AND REALLY APPRECIATE THEM THAT
7/30/09 10:43:08 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK
7/30/09 10:43:09 THEY SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
7/30/09 10:43:10 TO KNOW ABOUT AND THAT COUNCIL
7/30/09 10:43:13 SHOULD BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON.
7/30/09 10:43:16 SO I'M WONDERING IF WE
7/30/09 10:43:18 COULD
7/30/09 10:43:19 JUST CHANGE THAT TO SAY --I
7/30/09 10:43:21 NEED ADVICE FROM LEGAL ABOUT
7/30/09 10:43:22 THIS BECAUSE I ALSO FEEL THAT
7/30/09 10:43:24 IF WE ALREADY DID THAT WITH
7/30/09 10:43:26 ANOTHER PROGRAM WITH THE
7/30/09 10:43:27 INDICATE JACKSON PROGRAM MAYBE
7/30/09 10:43:29 THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED
7/30/09 10:43:30 AND MAYBE WE COULD CHANGE THAT
7/30/09 10:43:34 SO THAT INCREASES
7/30/09 10:43:36 IN FEES WOULD
7/30/09 10:43:37 ALWAYS --PARKS PROGRAMMING
7/30/09 10:43:40 WOULD ALWAYS HAVE TO COME TO
7/30/09 10:43:40 COUNCIL.
7/30/09 10:43:43 >> DO YOU WANT
7/30/09 10:43:45 TO CHIME IN,
7/30/09 10:43:45 MR. FLETCHER?
7/30/09 10:43:48 IF
7/30/09 10:43:51 YOU WANT TO
7/30/09 10:43:52 AMEND THIS
7/30/09 10:43:53 COUNSEL CAN DO IS THAT.
7/30/09 10:43:54 >> SECTION 4. TYPICALLY WHEN
7/30/09 10:43:56 YOU HAVE A DELEGATION AND I
7/30/09 10:43:57 WOULD CALL THIS A DELL GADGETS
7/30/09 10:43:58 OF THIS TYPE OF AUTHORITY YOU
7/30/09 10:43:59 HAVE CRITERIA THAT ARE SET.
7/30/09 10:44:02 IN THIS CASE THERE ARE
7/30/09 10:44:03 TWO
7/30/09 10:44:03 CRITERIA.
7/30/09 10:44:06 ONE IS CAPPED AT 5% AND IT IS
7/30/09 10:44:09 ONLY AS PROGRAM COSTS GO
7/30/09 10:44:09 UP.
7/30/09 10:44:11 SO YOU COULD EITHER PUT
7/30/09 10:44:13 ADDITIONAL CAPS ON THERE OR
7/30/09 10:44:16 CRITERIA OR YOU COULD TAKE IT
7/30/09 10:44:17 OUT ALL TOGETHER IN WHICH CASE
7/30/09 10:44:19 ALL THOSE WOULD BE LOCKED IN
7/30/09 10:44:21 EVEN IN THE EVENT OF WHAT WAS
7/30/09 10:44:22 DESCRIBED EARLIER WHERE THE
7/30/09 10:44:24 DIRECT COSTS OF PROVIDING THE
7/30/09 10:44:25 SERVICE HAVE INCREASED.
7/30/09 10:44:26 SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF
7/30/09 10:44:27 DECISIONS YOU WOULD WANT TO
7/30/09 10:44:30 MAKE AS YOU ARE LOOKING AT THAT
7/30/09 10:44:32 TYPE OF AMENDMENT.
7/30/09 10:44:33 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 10:44:34 WELL, I THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE
7/30/09 10:44:36 TO PROPOSE AND SEE HOW COUNCIL
7/30/09 10:44:38 FEELS THAT WE JUST REMOVE THAT
7/30/09 10:44:41 BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING
7/30/09 10:44:44 ABOUT AN
7/30/09 10:44:44 ANNUAL INCREASE.
7/30/09 10:44:46 SO I DON'T SEE WHY WE NEED TO
7/30/09 10:44:47 HAVE AN INCREASE COULDN'T COME
7/30/09 10:44:49 BEFORE COUNCIL MUCH I WOULD
7/30/09 10:44:49 LIKE TO REMOVE THAT.
7/30/09 10:44:51 I STILL HAVE SOME OTHER
7/30/09 10:44:53 COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS BUT I'D
7/30/09 10:44:56 MAKE THAT MOTION
7/30/09 10:44:59 NOW IF COUNCIL
7/30/09 10:44:59 --
7/30/09 10:45:00 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 10:45:00 TWO THINGS.
7/30/09 10:45:03 I REALLY APPRECIATED THE LETTER
7/30/09 10:45:06 FROM THE VIRGINIA PARK
7/30/09 10:45:07 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
7/30/09 10:45:07 SUPPORTING THIS.
7/30/09 10:45:09 I JUST HEARD FROM A VARIETY OF
7/30/09 10:45:10 PEOPLE WHO ARE MUCH MORE
7/30/09 10:45:12 CONCERNED THAN THE SERVICES BE
7/30/09 10:45:13 PROVIDED THAN THAT WE COME UP
7/30/09 10:45:15 WITH THE SLIDING SCALE OF FEES.
7/30/09 10:45:17 I THINK IT IS VERY MODEST AND
7/30/09 10:45:19 TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE
7/30/09 10:45:21 SUGGESTION THAT WAS JUST MADE I
7/30/09 10:45:22 WON'T SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE I
7/30/09 10:45:25 THINK 5%, IT IS CAPPED
7/30/09 10:45:25 AT 5%.
7/30/09 10:45:27 5% IS A VERY MODEST AMOUNT AND
7/30/09 10:45:29 ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE ARE
7/30/09 10:45:31 IN THIS POSITION NOW OF TAKING
7/30/09 10:45:32 IT BASICALLY FROM VIRTUALLY
7/30/09 10:45:33 NOTHING TO SOMETHING IS THAT
7/30/09 10:45:35 FOR YEARS IT WASN'T ADDRESSED
7/30/09 10:45:37 AND I FEEL THAT JUST IS BASED
7/30/09 10:45:39 ON INCREASED COSTS AND THE 5%
7/30/09 10:45:41 IS A VERY MODEST AMOUNT FOR IT
7/30/09 10:45:42 TO GO UP.
7/30/09 10:45:44 SO I FEEL LIKE LET'S VOTE ON
7/30/09 10:45:45 THIS --I MEAN, I COULD
7/30/09 10:45:47 CERTAINLY LIVE WITH IT IF IT
7/30/09 10:45:47 DOESN'T COME UP.
7/30/09 10:45:51 I FEEL LIKE IF NOT PARKS GET SO
7/30/09 10:45:52 BUSY IN HANDLING THEIR PROGRAMS
7/30/09 10:45:55 IT MIGHT NOT COME BACK ON CITY
7/30/09 10:45:56 COUNCIL'S AGENDA FOR LET'S SAY
7/30/09 10:45:58 SEVERAL YEARS AND THEN WE END
7/30/09 10:46:00 UP LOOKING AT A 20% ADJUSTMENT
7/30/09 10:46:03 WHICH IS MUCH GREATER THAN 5%
7/30/09 10:46:03 EACH YEAR.
7/30/09 10:46:05 I FEEL LIKE WE CAN ALL DO
7/30/09 10:46:08 BETTER WITH MORE MODEST
7/30/09 10:46:08 INCREMENTS.
7/30/09 10:46:10 >> IT IS MODEST AND I AGREE
7/30/09 10:46:13 WITH THAT BUT I JUST FEEL
7/30/09 10:46:14 LIKE
7/30/09 10:46:16 THE --NUMBER 1, THE PRECEDENT,
7/30/09 10:46:18 I DON'T WANT TO SET THAT UP
7/30/09 10:46:20 BECAUSE WE GENERALLY ARE
7/30/09 10:46:21 APPROVING INCREASES IN FEES AND
7/30/09 10:46:23 I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC RELIES
7/30/09 10:46:25 ON US TO DO THAT.
7/30/09 10:46:27 AND I THINK THE OTHER THING IS
7/30/09 10:46:30 THAT IF THEY ARE GOING TO GO TO
7/30/09 10:46:32 THE TROUBLE OF INCREASING THE
7/30/09 10:46:36 FEES EVERY YEAR
7/30/09 10:46:36 WE ARE JUST
7/30/09 10:46:38 ASKING THEM TO PUT AN ITEM ON
7/30/09 10:46:41 THE AGENDA ONCE A
7/30/09 10:46:42 YEAR TO
7/30/09 10:46:43 APPROVE IT.
7/30/09 10:46:45 I DON'T SEE A HUGE NEED TO
7/30/09 10:46:48 RELINQUISH THIS SPOAMENT
7/30/09 10:46:49 THAT
7/30/09 10:46:50 WE GENERALLY HAVE.
7/30/09 10:46:53 SO I DON'T KNOW.
7/30/09 10:46:54 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 10:46:55 >> THE MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF
7/30/09 10:46:56 A SECONDER.
7/30/09 10:46:59 >> IT
7/30/09 10:47:01 WAS SECONDED.
7/30/09 10:47:01 >> HE SECONDED IT.
7/30/09 10:47:03 >> YES, I DID.
7/30/09 10:47:06 >> THE OTHER
7/30/09 10:47:07 ISSUE RAISED WITH
7/30/09 10:47:08 LEGAL --
7/30/09 10:47:10 >> MR. CHAIRMAN I SUPPORT THIS
7/30/09 10:47:13 REMOVING SECTION 4. MAYBE WE
7/30/09 10:47:15 CAN MODIFY IT THAT KAREN WOULD
7/30/09 10:47:17 COME BACK EVERY YEAR TO THIS
7/30/09 10:47:19 COUNCIL AND ASK FOR AN
7/30/09 10:47:19 INCREASE.
7/30/09 10:47:22 IF SHE WANTS TO PUT AN INCREASE
7/30/09 10:47:25 IN OR EITHER
7/30/09 10:47:26 WIPE IT OUT
7/30/09 10:47:26 COMPLETELY.
7/30/09 10:47:29 >> THE MOTION NOW IS TO REMOVE
7/30/09 10:47:29 IT?
7/30/09 10:47:31 >> I THINK IF WE REMOVE IT,
7/30/09 10:47:33 THEN IF SHE DID WANT TO
7/30/09 10:47:35 INCREASE THE FEES SHIELD HAVE
7/30/09 10:47:36 TO COME TO COUNCIL.
7/30/09 10:47:37 >> YOUR MOTION.
7/30/09 10:47:39 WHAT WAS YOUR MOTION?
7/30/09 10:47:41 >> MY MOTION WAS JUST TO REMOVE
7/30/09 10:47:44 IT BUT HE IS MAKING A
7/30/09 10:47:44 PROPOSAL
7/30/09 10:47:45 FOR AN AMENDMENT.
7/30/09 10:47:48 >> CAN WE HEAR FROM
7/30/09 10:47:51 LEGAL
7/30/09 10:47:52 ABOUT
7/30/09 10:47:52 THAT?
7/30/09 10:47:54 >> THE EFFECT OF REMOVING IT
7/30/09 10:47:55 WILL BE WHAT WAS SUGGESTED ANY
7/30/09 10:47:57 CHANGES WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK
7/30/09 10:47:58 TO COUNCIL.
7/30/09 10:47:59 CERTAINLY WE COULD PUT IN THE
7/30/09 10:48:02 LANGUAGE THAT WAS SUGGESTED.
7/30/09 10:48:05 THE EFFECT OF THE MOTION AS
7/30/09 10:48:08 PRESENTLY ON THE FLOOR
7/30/09 10:48:09 IS THE
7/30/09 10:48:09 SAME.
7/30/09 10:48:10 >> LET ME RAISE THAT.
7/30/09 10:48:12 >> YOU RAISED A QUESTION TOO.
7/30/09 10:48:14 IF WE SPEND 5% NOW AND IT COMES
7/30/09 10:48:15 BACK TO COUNCIL THE NEXT YEAR
7/30/09 10:48:18 IT CAN GO UP
7/30/09 10:48:20 HIGHER AND 5% IS A
7/30/09 10:48:21 MODEST PRICE AND I WOULDN'T
7/30/09 10:48:23 WANT TO COME BACK NEXT YEAR AND
7/30/09 10:48:26 IT GO UP TO 10% AND IT WILL BE
7/30/09 10:48:26 HARD ON THE PARENTS.
7/30/09 10:48:29 SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO
7/30/09 10:48:30 TAKE IT OUT.
7/30/09 10:48:31 LEAVE IT AS BASE 5% AND YEAR TO
7/30/09 10:48:34 YEAR IT WILL BE 5. WE CAN'T
7/30/09 10:48:35 MOVE IT UP.
7/30/09 10:48:38 >> IT IS STATED AS UP TO 5%
7/30/09 10:48:39 AND
7/30/09 10:48:40 AGAIN AS I REITERATED IT HAS
7/30/09 10:48:42 NOT BEEN A FEE WE HAVE BEEN
7/30/09 10:48:43 RUNNING OUT TO RAISE.
7/30/09 10:48:44 WE JUST RAISED THAT ONE TWO
7/30/09 10:48:47 YEARS AGO SIGNIFICANTLY FROM
7/30/09 10:48:50 WHERE
7/30/09 10:48:53 IT WAS BEFORE.
7/30/09 10:48:55 >> CAN THERE BE A STATEMENT
7/30/09 10:48:57 THAT EVERY TWO YEARS IT IS
7/30/09 10:48:59 REVIEWED BY COUNCIL OR EVERY
7/30/09 10:48:59 THREE YEARS.
7/30/09 10:49:02 IN ESSENCE WHAT YOU ARE DOING,
7/30/09 10:49:05 COUNCIL, YOU ARE GIVING YOUR
7/30/09 10:49:08 LEGISLATIVE POWER AWAY TO
7/30/09 10:49:08 HAVE
7/30/09 10:49:08 INPUT.
7/30/09 10:49:10 LISTEN, FOLKS, I LIKE TO BE
7/30/09 10:49:13 FAIR AND RAISE ISSUES SO WE ALL
7/30/09 10:49:16 UNDERSTAND
7/30/09 10:49:18 WHAT'S HAPPENING
7/30/09 10:49:18 HERE.
7/30/09 10:49:21 I'M AWARE YOU ARE GIVING AWAY
7/30/09 10:49:21 YOUR LEGISLATIVE ABILITY AND
7/30/09 10:49:24 POWER THAT ONCE YOU DO THAT YOU
7/30/09 10:49:27 HAVE NO MECHANISM IN PLACE TO
7/30/09 10:49:28 REGAIN IT AND I'M SIMPLY SAYING
7/30/09 10:49:30 MAYBE YOU MAY WANT TO REVIEW
7/30/09 10:49:32 THIS EVERY THREE YEARS, EVERY
7/30/09 10:49:33 FOUR YEARS OR SOMETHING TO THAT
7/30/09 10:49:36 NATURE THAT WAY IT GIVES YOU
7/30/09 10:49:39 THE INPUT FOR IT TO
7/30/09 10:49:40 COME BACK.
7/30/09 10:49:41 >> COUNCILWOMAN?
7/30/09 10:49:44 >> I THINK THAT BY DOING WHAT
7/30/09 10:49:45 I
7/30/09 10:49:47 HAD PROPOSED IT WILL
7/30/09 10:49:47 AUTOMATICALLY COME BACK.
7/30/09 10:49:49 >> I DON'T WANT IT TO COME BACK
7/30/09 10:49:50 EVERY YEAR, THOUGH.
7/30/09 10:49:52 >> WELL, THEY CANNOT RAISE THE
7/30/09 10:49:55 FEES WITHOUT COMING
7/30/09 10:49:58 BACK TO US.
7/30/09 10:50:01 I DON'T THINK
7/30/09 10:50:02 WE SHOULD BE
7/30/09 10:50:03 GIVING THIS AWAY AND I DO FEEL
7/30/09 10:50:05 VERY STRONGLY THAT WHAT WE DO
7/30/09 10:50:07 WE DON'T ALLOW PUBLIC FORUM
7/30/09 10:50:09 WHEN THERE IS A PROPOSED FEE
7/30/09 10:50:09 INCREASE.
7/30/09 10:50:11 IF IT DOESN'T COME TO COUNCIL
7/30/09 10:50:12 THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT THE
7/30/09 10:50:14 PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN
7/30/09 10:50:17 ON THIS AND THAT'S REALLY
7/30/09 10:50:18 MY
7/30/09 10:50:18 BIGGEST CONCERN.
7/30/09 10:50:20 >> YES?
7/30/09 10:50:22 >> THANK YOU, MR.CHAIRMAN.
7/30/09 10:50:24 I WAS OUTSIDE DISCUSSING CITY
7/30/09 10:50:25 BUSINESS BUT I INTENSELY FEEL
7/30/09 10:50:28 LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THIS
7/30/09 10:50:28 COUNCIL.
7/30/09 10:50:30 I BELIEVE THAT THERE SHOULD BE
7/30/09 10:50:31 A SEPARATION OF POWER JUST LIKE
7/30/09 10:50:33 THERE IS IN MOST GOVERNMENTS
7/30/09 10:50:35 AND IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF ME BUT
7/30/09 10:50:36 WHO IS GOING TO SIT HERE NEXT
7/30/09 10:50:39 AND WHO IS GOING TO SIT IN THE
7/30/09 10:50:41 NEXT BUILDING NEXT THAT DOESN'T
7/30/09 10:50:43 BOTH, ME OR CONCERN ME BUT IT
7/30/09 10:50:46 LEAVES A LITTLE APPREHENSION IN
7/30/09 10:50:48 ME THAT --ABOUT THE SEPARATION
7/30/09 10:50:50 OF POWERS BETWEEN THE
7/30/09 10:50:51 LEGISLATIVE AND ADMINISTRATIVE
7/30/09 10:50:53 AND I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THIS
7/30/09 10:50:55 IS SET BY RESOLUTION THAT IF
7/30/09 10:50:56 THE ADMINISTRATION IN THE YEARS
7/30/09 10:50:57 TO COME WHETHER IT IS NEXT YEAR
7/30/09 10:50:59 OR TWO YEARS FROM NOW, THE
7/30/09 10:51:01 RESOLUTION HAS GOT TO COME HERE
7/30/09 10:51:02 FOR APPROVAL.
7/30/09 10:51:04 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT
7/30/09 10:51:05 ADMINISTRATIVE POWERS SHOULD
7/30/09 10:51:07 JUST BE GIVEN TO ANY
7/30/09 10:51:09 ADMINISTRATOR TO DO SOMETHING,
7/30/09 10:51:12 BECAUSE THEN THE SILENT VOICE
7/30/09 10:51:15 OF THE PUBLIC REMAINS SILENT.
7/30/09 10:51:17 IT IS NEVER HEARD.
7/30/09 10:51:19 AND SOMETIMES IT IS THE BEST
7/30/09 10:51:19 THING.
7/30/09 10:51:20 NOT SOMETIMES, ALL THE TIME IS
7/30/09 10:51:22 THE BEST THING TO HAVE DIALOGUE
7/30/09 10:51:23 WHETHER I AGREE OR DISAGREE
7/30/09 10:51:26 WITH THEM BUT AT LEAST THE
7/30/09 10:51:29 PERIOD OF DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE
7/30/09 10:51:31 PERSON'S WE REPRESENT, THE
7/30/09 10:51:33 CITIZENS AND OURSELVES, IS
7/30/09 10:51:36 HEARD AND AIRED OUT IN
7/30/09 10:51:38 A
7/30/09 10:51:38 SETTING LIKE THIS.
7/30/09 10:51:38 I AGREE.
7/30/09 10:51:40 I DON'T THINK THE SECOND PART
7/30/09 10:51:43 OF THIS, IF I MAY CALL IT THE
7/30/09 10:51:46 SEC YEAR WHERE YOU WAIVE YOUR
7/30/09 10:51:47 RIGHT TO INCREASE FEES IS THE
7/30/09 10:51:48 BEST THING FOR GOVERNMENT.
7/30/09 10:52:03 >> THE MOTION IS TO MOVE IT AND
7/30/09 10:52:04 I'M LOOKING FOR A COMPROMISE
7/30/09 10:52:05 WHERE THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY
7/30/09 10:52:07 FOR IT TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL
7/30/09 10:52:07 PERIODICALLY.
7/30/09 10:52:10 I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT SHOULD
7/30/09 10:52:11 BE REMOVED FROM THERE I JUST
7/30/09 10:52:12 THINK THAT COUNCIL SHOULD BE
7/30/09 10:52:13 ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON IT AT LEAST
7/30/09 10:52:16 EVERY COUPLE
7/30/09 10:52:22 OF YEARS SOMEWHERE.
7/30/09 10:52:25 >> MR. FLETCHER?
7/30/09 10:52:26 >> BASED ON YOUR COMMENT IF I
7/30/09 10:52:27 COULD MAKE SOME SUGGESTIONS.
7/30/09 10:52:29 IF YOU WANT A MIDDLE GROUND.
7/30/09 10:52:30 ONE WOULD BE THAT YOU RECEIVE
7/30/09 10:52:33 NOTICE OF ANY CHANGE
7/30/09 10:52:38 IN THE
7/30/09 10:52:40 FEES.
7/30/09 10:52:43 A 5% ADJUSTMENT PERIOD NOT
7/30/09 10:52:45 ANNUALLY BUT JUST A 5%
7/30/09 10:52:45 ADJUSTMENT PERIOD.
7/30/09 10:52:47 I WOULD OFFER THOSE OPTIONS
7/30/09 10:52:50 LOOKING AT OTHER WAYS I'VE
7/30/09 10:52:52 SEEN
7/30/09 10:52:52 DELEGATIONS DRAFTED.
7/30/09 10:52:53 >> COUNCILWOMAN?
7/30/09 10:52:56 >> YES, I'M
7/30/09 10:52:57 JUST GOING TO
7/30/09 10:52:57 REITERATE.
7/30/09 10:53:00 I BELIEVE I MADE A MOTION
7/30/09 10:53:02 AND I
7/30/09 10:53:04 THINK IT WAS SECONDED AND I
7/30/09 10:53:05 AGREE --YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT
7/30/09 10:53:08 WITH MY MOTION AS OPPOSED TO
7/30/09 10:53:08 AMENDING IT?
7/30/09 10:53:10 >> I THINK I PUT AN AMENDMENT
7/30/09 10:53:13 ON IT THAT IT COME BACK TO
7/30/09 10:53:13 THIS
7/30/09 10:53:13 COUNCIL.
7/30/09 10:53:14 >> RIGHT.
7/30/09 10:53:16 BUT WHAT LEGAL TOLD US WAS IT
7/30/09 10:53:17 WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK SO BY
7/30/09 10:53:18 EFFECT BY TAKING IT OUT.
7/30/09 10:53:20 >> SO IT WOULD COME OUT ANYWAY.
7/30/09 10:53:23 >> BUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS I
7/30/09 10:53:26 THINK WE ARE MUDDYING THINGS UP
7/30/09 10:53:27 BY ADDING ALL THESE CLAUSES AND
7/30/09 10:53:30 I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO
7/30/09 10:53:31 DO
7/30/09 10:53:31 IT.
7/30/09 10:53:34 IF WE LEAVE THIS AS IT
7/30/09 10:53:35 IS IN
7/30/09 10:53:36 OUR CHARTER AND BY TRADITION
7/30/09 10:53:37 THAT RAISING FEES COMPANIES TO
7/30/09 10:53:39 COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL IN ORDER
7/30/09 10:53:41 TO ALLOW PUBLIC HEARINGS THEN I
7/30/09 10:53:44 FEEL LIKE I DON'T SEE THAT THAT
7/30/09 10:53:45 IS A HARDSHIP FOR THE
7/30/09 10:53:46 ADMINISTRATION, I THINK IT IS
7/30/09 10:53:49 JUST PART OF
7/30/09 10:53:51 OUR PROCESS.
7/30/09 10:53:53 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
7/30/09 10:53:54 IN FACT, THE ITEM 62 THAT WE
7/30/09 10:53:57 ARE DISCUSSING TODAY IS A
7/30/09 10:53:58 CLEAR
7/30/09 10:53:58 EXAMPLE.
7/30/09 10:54:00 IF IT WAS JUST 5% WE WOULDN'T
7/30/09 10:54:01 BE HERE.
7/30/09 10:54:04 IF WE HAD IN PLACE WHAT WE
7/30/09 10:54:05 HAVE
7/30/09 10:54:05 JUST SUGGESTED.
7/30/09 10:54:07 IT GOES TO WHOEVER HE OR SHE
7/30/09 10:54:09 WOULD BE AND IT WOULD BE
7/30/09 10:54:09 AUTOMATIC.
7/30/09 10:54:12 SO I THINK A GIVE AND TAKE AND
7/30/09 10:54:14 THE RIGHTS OF COUNCIL MEMBERS
7/30/09 10:54:17 TO VOTE WHETHER RIGHTLY OR
7/30/09 10:54:18 WRONGLY WILL CERTAINLY
7/30/09 10:54:18 DISAPPEAR.
7/30/09 10:54:19 THAT'S WHAT CONCERNS ME THE
7/30/09 10:54:21 MOST THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD NOT
7/30/09 10:54:24 HAVE A CHANCE TO SAY THEIR
7/30/09 10:54:26 PIECE OF MIND AS TO HOW THEY
7/30/09 10:54:28 FEEL AND HOW THEY WANT THESE
7/30/09 10:54:28 THINGS TO GO.
7/30/09 10:54:31 SO THEREFORE I'M GOING TO
7/30/09 10:54:37 SUPPORT THE MOTION BY THE TWO.
7/30/09 10:54:38 I THINK THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT
7/30/09 10:54:40 REGARDING THIS IF THEY WANT TO
7/30/09 10:54:41 RAISE IT, GOT TO COME BACK AND
7/30/09 10:54:43 I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
7/30/09 10:54:44 >> MR. CHAIRMAN?
7/30/09 10:54:44 >> YES.
7/30/09 10:54:45 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A
7/30/09 10:54:46 QUESTION OF LEGAL.
7/30/09 10:54:48 THIS IS A RESOLUTION AND IT IS
7/30/09 10:54:51 MY UNDERSTANDING THAT COUNCIL
7/30/09 10:54:53 CAN CHANGE RESOLUTIONS
7/30/09 10:54:54 RELATIVELY SIMPLY.
7/30/09 10:54:55 SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF TWO YEARS
7/30/09 10:54:57 DOWN THE LINE AFTER WE RECEIVE
7/30/09 10:55:00 NOTICE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION
7/30/09 10:55:02 IS INCREASING ITS FEES 5% EACH
7/30/09 10:55:04 YEAR IF COUNCIL WERE TO NOT BE
7/30/09 10:55:05 COMFORTABLE WITH THAT WE AS
7/30/09 10:55:07 CITY COUNCIL COULD MAKE A
7/30/09 10:55:08 RESOLUTION TO BRING THAT
7/30/09 10:55:09 DECISION MAKING BACK TO US.
7/30/09 10:55:11 IT ISN'T SOMETHING WE ARE
7/30/09 10:55:12 GIVING UP FOREVER, IT IS
7/30/09 10:55:13 SOMETHING WE ARE DELEGATING TO
7/30/09 10:55:15 THE ADMINISTRATION FOR AS LONG
7/30/09 10:55:18 AS WE FEEL LIKE,
7/30/09 10:55:18 CORRECT?
7/30/09 10:55:18 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
7/30/09 10:55:19 AND THE PURPOSE OF A NOTICE IF
7/30/09 10:55:21 WE WERE TO ADD A NOTICE
7/30/09 10:55:24 PROVISION WOULD BE TO
7/30/09 10:55:25 GIVE
7/30/09 10:55:26 COUNSEL THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE
7/30/09 10:55:29 ACTION TO CHANGE THE FEE OR
7/30/09 10:55:32 REDUCE IT OR
7/30/09 10:55:32 TAKE WHATEVER
7/30/09 10:55:34 LEGISLATIVE ACTION WAS
7/30/09 10:55:34 APPROPRIATE.
7/30/09 10:55:35 >> THANK YOU, MR. FLETCHER.
7/30/09 10:55:37 I THINK THAT GIVES US ENOUGH
7/30/09 10:55:38 ABILITY TO WEIGH IN AND PROTECT
7/30/09 10:55:41 THE PUBLIC AND I THINK 5% IS
7/30/09 10:55:41 ENOUGH.
7/30/09 10:55:43 >> JUST ONE SECOND.
7/30/09 10:55:45 BUT I THINK THOUGH, DOESN'T IT
7/30/09 10:55:47 TAKE A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE TO
7/30/09 10:55:48 OVERRIDE THAT?
7/30/09 10:55:51 >> OVERRIDE THE MAYOR IN CASE
7/30/09 10:55:52 OF VETO IN.
7/30/09 10:55:54 >> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF A
7/30/09 10:55:56 RESOLUTION WAS PASSED THAT HAD
7/30/09 10:55:58 AN ESCALATION CLAUSE IN IT, 5%
7/30/09 10:56:00 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND YOU
7/30/09 10:56:01 WANTED TO CHANGE THAT IT WOULD
7/30/09 10:56:03 TAKE AN ACT OF COUNCIL, IT
7/30/09 10:56:06 WOULD TAKE A RESOLUTION MOST
7/30/09 10:56:09 LIKELY THAT WOULD CHANGE THAT
7/30/09 10:56:10 PARTICULAR FEE OR THAT
7/30/09 10:56:11 PARTICULAR STANDARD THAT YOU
7/30/09 10:56:12 HAVE IN PLACE.
7/30/09 10:56:15 SO IT WOULD TAKE A
7/30/09 10:56:18 MAJORITY OF
7/30/09 10:56:23 FOUR.
7/30/09 10:56:23 >> FOUR?
7/30/09 10:56:26 >> FOUR.
7/30/09 10:56:29 >> IF I COULD JUST FOLLOW
7/30/09 10:56:30 UP ON
7/30/09 10:56:30 THAT.
7/30/09 10:56:32 OBVIOUSLY COUNCIL ALWAYS HAS
7/30/09 10:56:35 THE ABILITY BY
7/30/09 10:56:38 RESOLUTION
7/30/09 10:56:40 TO
7/30/09 10:56:43 REPEOPLE OR SUPERCEDE
7/30/09 10:56:44 THE
7/30/09 10:56:44 RESOLUTION.
7/30/09 10:56:45 THERE WOULD BE, AS IT WAS SAID,
7/30/09 10:56:47 NO ITEM ON THE AGENA UNLESS A
7/30/09 10:56:49 COUNCIL MEMBER IS SOMEHOW
7/30/09 10:56:50 NOTIFIED OF IT BECAUSE UNLESS
7/30/09 10:56:52 COUNCIL BY A SUBSEQUENT MOTION
7/30/09 10:56:54 ADDS WHAT MR. FLETCHER
7/30/09 10:56:55 SUGGESTED TO HAVE A REPORT,
7/30/09 10:56:58 COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THE FUTURE
7/30/09 10:56:59 AS MR. MIRANDA SAYS MAY NOT
7/30/09 10:57:01 HAVE NOTICE OF THAT OR RISE TO
7/30/09 10:57:02 THE LEVEL OF AN ISSUE THAT
7/30/09 10:57:03 WOULD CAUSE A COUNCIL MEMBER
7/30/09 10:57:05 THAT WOULD WANT TO BRING IT TO
7/30/09 10:57:08 THEIR BOARD TO GET THEIR FELLOW
7/30/09 10:57:09 MEMBERS TO PASS A RESOLUTION IN
7/30/09 10:57:12 SUPPORT OF
7/30/09 10:57:17 CHANGING THIS
7/30/09 10:57:20 RESOLUTION.
7/30/09 10:57:23 >>
7/30/09 10:57:24 AGAIN, WE ARE MUDDYING THE
7/30/09 10:57:24 WATER.
7/30/09 10:57:25 I DON'T SEE ANY PRESSING NEED
7/30/09 10:57:27 TO GIVE UP WHAT WE HAVE AS OF
7/30/09 10:57:30 TODAY WE HAVE MAJOR INCREASES
7/30/09 10:57:31 BEING PROPOSED AND THEY HAVE
7/30/09 10:57:33 BEEN CONSIDERED AND WE HAVE
7/30/09 10:57:35 DISCUSSED THEM AND WE HAVE GONE
7/30/09 10:57:35 THROUGH ALREALLY GOOD PROCESS
7/30/09 10:57:37 AND THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN ABLE TO
7/30/09 10:57:39 TALK TODAY SO I DON'T SEE ANY
7/30/09 10:57:40 REASON TO DO THAT.
7/30/09 10:57:43 I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP
7/30/09 10:57:43 MY
7/30/09 10:57:46 LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY HERE
7/30/09 10:57:49 AT
7/30/09 10:57:49 ALL.
7/30/09 10:57:50 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 10:57:52 >> IF I'M GOING TO ERR, I'M
7/30/09 10:57:54 GOING TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF THE
7/30/09 10:57:54 PUBLIC.
7/30/09 10:57:56 IF IT WASN'T FOR THE MEDIA
7/30/09 10:57:57 PUTTING THIS ON TELEVISION AND
7/30/09 10:58:00 NEWSPAPERS FOR THE LAST DAY
7/30/09 10:58:01 OR
7/30/09 10:58:03 TWO NO ONE WOULD HAVE KNOWN
7/30/09 10:58:04 ABOUT IT.
7/30/09 10:58:04 I'M AFRAID.
7/30/09 10:58:07 YOU CAN POST SIGNS ALL YOU WANT
7/30/09 10:58:09 AND PUT IT ON T.V.
7/30/09 10:58:10 BUT THAT'S NOT THE VAST
7/30/09 10:58:12 MAJORITY OF THE MEDIA THAT
7/30/09 10:58:12 PEOPLE WATCH.
7/30/09 10:58:14 SO WHAT I'M SAYING IF IT WASN'T
7/30/09 10:58:17 FOR THEM THE DEBATE TODAY WOULD
7/30/09 10:58:20 HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE
7/30/09 10:58:21 MINUTE AND
7/30/09 10:58:21 SMALLER.
7/30/09 10:58:22 IF I ERR I'M GOING TO TRY TO
7/30/09 10:58:24 ERR ON THE SIDE OF THE PUBLIC.
7/30/09 10:58:25 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
7/30/09 10:58:28 >> THE MOTION ON
7/30/09 10:58:30 THE FLOOR IS
7/30/09 10:58:32 WE REMOVE THIS PARTICULAR
7/30/09 10:58:32 CLAUSE GIVING THE
7/30/09 10:58:34 ADMINISTRATION THE AUTHORITY TO
7/30/09 10:58:36 RAISE THE RATE BY UP TO 5%.
7/30/09 10:58:39 THAT IS THE MOTION AND
7/30/09 10:58:40 SECONDED.
7/30/09 10:58:43 ALL IN FAVOR
7/30/09 10:58:46 SAY
7/30/09 10:58:49 AYE?
7/30/09 10:58:49 >> AYE.
7/30/09 10:58:50 >> OPPOSERS.
7/30/09 10:58:50 >>NAYE.
7/30/09 10:58:56 >> DEAN FELDER BEING ABSENT.
7/30/09 10:58:58 >> DECIDING VOTE.
7/30/09 10:58:59 >> I'M SORRY, MR. FLETCHER,
7/30/09 10:59:00 WHAT HAPPENS NOW?
7/30/09 10:59:03 WILL STAFF
7/30/09 10:59:05 BE ABLE TO PROPOSE
7/30/09 10:59:05 THAT THIS MORNING?
7/30/09 10:59:07 >> WE CAN DRAFT A NEW
7/30/09 10:59:08 RESOLUTION IF IT IS YOUR
7/30/09 10:59:10 PLEASURE BUT SINCE YOU ARE JUST
7/30/09 10:59:11 STRIKING SECTION 4 YOU CAN GO
7/30/09 10:59:13 AHEAD AN MOVE THAT RESOLUTION
7/30/09 10:59:16 NOTING THAT SECTION 4
7/30/09 10:59:17 HAS BEEN
7/30/09 10:59:19 STRICKEN BY MOTION OF COUNCIL.
7/30/09 10:59:20 >> SECOND.
7/30/09 10:59:23 MOVE RESOLUTION WITH THAT PIECE
7/30/09 10:59:24 BEING ELIMINATED.
7/30/09 10:59:24 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 10:59:26 >> WHEN I FIRST STARTED TALKING
7/30/09 10:59:28 I HAD SOMETHING ELSE I WANTED
7/30/09 10:59:30 TO SAY AND SO I JUST WANT TO
7/30/09 10:59:33 SAY THAT BEFORE WE VOTE
7/30/09 10:59:35 ON THE
7/30/09 10:59:35 RESOLUTION.
7/30/09 10:59:38 I WANT TO THANK YOU,
7/30/09 10:59:39 MISS
7/30/09 10:59:40 PALACE, FOR THE GREAT
7/30/09 10:59:41 EXPLANATION OF HOW YOU ARE
7/30/09 10:59:42 GOING TO ALLOW THE SLIDING
7/30/09 10:59:45 SCALE AND THE SENSITIVITY
7/30/09 10:59:49 TO
7/30/09 10:59:52 THE PEOPLE QHO HAVE ASKED FOR
7/30/09 10:59:53 THAT.
7/30/09 10:59:55 I WANT TO POINT OUT WHEN YOU
7/30/09 10:59:57 FIRST STARTED REVIEWING THIS
7/30/09 10:59:59 AND REALIZED OUR FEES HAVEN'T
7/30/09 11:00:00 BEEN RAISED FOR A VERY LONG
7/30/09 11:00:03 TIME AND NOT IN LINE WITH WHAT
7/30/09 11:00:04 OTHER PARKS DEPARTMENTS WERE
7/30/09 11:00:07 DOING AND THE OPTION WAS TO
7/30/09 11:00:08 EITHER ELIMINATE PROGRAMS OR
7/30/09 11:00:10 RAISE THE FEES, THE PUBLIC THAT
7/30/09 11:00:12 CAME IN WERE THE PEOPLE WHO
7/30/09 11:00:14 SAID PLEASE RAISE MY FEES
7/30/09 11:00:16 BECAUSE THIS PROGRAM IS REALLY
7/30/09 11:00:19 IMPORTANT TO ME AND I KNOW THAT
7/30/09 11:00:22 WE ARE NOT
7/30/09 11:00:23 PAYING WHAT ANYWHERE
7/30/09 11:00:24 NEAR WHAT THE MARKET RATE WAS.
7/30/09 11:00:26 THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT COULD
7/30/09 11:00:26 AFFORD IT.
7/30/09 11:00:28 THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE IN SOUTH
7/30/09 11:00:29 TAMPA.
7/30/09 11:00:29 THAT WAS KATE JACKSON.
7/30/09 11:00:31 NOW TODAY WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM
7/30/09 11:00:33 OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IN A MUCH
7/30/09 11:00:34 WORSE ECONOMIC CLIMATE SAYING
7/30/09 11:00:37 PLEASE DON'T RAISE THE FEES.
7/30/09 11:00:40 SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT
7/30/09 11:00:42 THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE THE
7/30/09 11:00:43 SLIDING SCALE.
7/30/09 11:00:45 THAT WAS MY ONE BIG QUESTION
7/30/09 11:00:46 ABOUT IT AND I THINK THAT I
7/30/09 11:00:48 JUST WANT TO BE VERY SUPPORTIVE
7/30/09 11:00:50 OF THE FACT THAT YOU ARE
7/30/09 11:00:52 RAISING THE FEES BECAUSE THEY
7/30/09 11:00:54 HAVE BEEN TOO LOW AND BECAUSE
7/30/09 11:00:56 WHAT WE HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE
7/30/09 11:00:58 USING THESE PROGRAMS IS THAT
7/30/09 11:01:00 THEY ARE FANTASTIC AND THAT
7/30/09 11:01:01 THEY ARE WILLING TO PAY MORE.
7/30/09 11:01:04 SO I THINK IT IS A REALLY
7/30/09 11:01:07 GOOD
7/30/09 11:01:07 THING.
7/30/09 11:01:08 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 11:01:10 >> I AGREE AND COME BACK TO US
7/30/09 11:01:12 NEXT YEAR AND THE NEXT YEAR IF
7/30/09 11:01:14 YOU NEED TO BECAUSE OF THE
7/30/09 11:01:16 PRICE OF PUTTING ON THESE
7/30/09 11:01:16 PROGRAMS INCREASING BECAUSE
7/30/09 11:01:18 WHAT WE ARE HEARING FROM OUR
7/30/09 11:01:21 COMMUNITY IS PEOPLE REALLY
7/30/09 11:01:23 APPRECIATE OUR RECREATION
7/30/09 11:01:23 DEPARTMENT PROGRAM THEY DON'T
7/30/09 11:01:26 WANT THE PROGRAMS TO GO AWAY.
7/30/09 11:01:29 >> MOTION ON THE FLOOR ALL IN
7/30/09 11:01:32 FAVOR SAY
7/30/09 11:01:36 AYE.
7/30/09 11:01:37 >> AYE.
7/30/09 11:01:37 >> OPPOSERS?
7/30/09 11:01:37 MOTION PASSES.
7/30/09 11:01:40 ITEM 54 IS
7/30/09 11:01:43 THE
7/30/09 11:01:45 RED SHORE
7/30/09 11:01:45 ALLOWANCE.
7/30/09 11:01:46 >> CHRIS WEBBERER.
7/30/09 11:01:48 THANK YOU FOR TAKING A COUPLE
7/30/09 11:01:49 MINUTES TODAY.
7/30/09 11:01:52 WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF
7/30/09 11:01:53 WHAT WE HAVE DONE.
7/30/09 11:01:56 WE DID SEVERAL MONTHS AGO MEET
7/30/09 11:01:57 WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS
7/30/09 11:01:58 REPRESENTATIVES AND DID GIVE US
7/30/09 11:01:58 SOME INPUT.
7/30/09 11:02:01 NOTHING THAT WOULD CHANGE THE
7/30/09 11:02:02 PLAN JUST SOME EXPLANATIONS.
7/30/09 11:02:04 WE NOW HAVE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE
7/30/09 11:02:06 STRUCTURE TO THE PLAN MUCH IT
7/30/09 11:02:08 IS UNDER OUR MASTER PLAN
7/30/09 11:02:09 COMMITTEE AND THEY WILL TAKE
7/30/09 11:02:12 THE PEDESTRIAN PLAN LOOK AT HOW
7/30/09 11:02:13 THEY INTEGRATE IT INTO THE
7/30/09 11:02:15 OVERLAY DISTRICT, WORK WITH THE
7/30/09 11:02:17 CITY, THINGS SUCH AS THAT.
7/30/09 11:02:19 WE ARE FURTHER DESIGNING THE
7/30/09 11:02:19 PRIORITIES.
7/30/09 11:02:20 WE HAVE ACTUALLY STARTED
7/30/09 11:02:23 WORKING SOME SPECIFIC PROJECTS
7/30/09 11:02:24 WITH THE CITY.
7/30/09 11:02:27 ON BOY SCOUT BOULEVARD AND
7/30/09 11:02:30 HOPEFULLY ON
7/30/09 11:02:32 HILLSBORO AVENUE.
7/30/09 11:02:32 WE RECEIVED APPROVAL.
7/30/09 11:02:34 CITY, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENTS
7/30/09 11:02:35 AND TRANSPORTATION HAVE BEEN
7/30/09 11:02:36 VERY HELPFUL AN SUPPORTIVE SO
7/30/09 11:02:39 WE ASK FOR YOUR
7/30/09 11:02:40 SUPPORT.
7/30/09 11:02:41 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 11:02:42 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 11:02:45 YOU ALL HAVE BEEN
7/30/09 11:02:45 EXTREMELY
7/30/09 11:02:46 INNOVATIVE AND FORWARD THINKING
7/30/09 11:02:48 TO INITIATE THIS PLAN AND I
7/30/09 11:02:49 WANT REASSURANCE YOU ARE
7/30/09 11:02:52 WORKING WITH SOME MEMBERS THAT
7/30/09 11:02:52 ARE DEVELOPING PROPERTIES
7/30/09 11:02:55 WITHIN WEST SHORE TO MAKE SURE
7/30/09 11:02:56 THEIR INTERNAL TRANSPORTATION
7/30/09 11:02:57 CONNECTIONS WHETHER THEY ARE
7/30/09 11:02:59 BIKE WAYS OR PEDESTRIAN
7/30/09 11:03:02 WALKWAYS WORK WITH THE
7/30/09 11:03:03 PARKING,
7/30/09 11:03:05 WORK WITH THE EXTERNAL
7/30/09 11:03:06 CONNECTIONS SO THAT WE CAN
7/30/09 11:03:08 REALLY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE NOT
7/30/09 11:03:11 NECESSARILY TO HAVE TO
7/30/09 11:03:11 DRIVE
7/30/09 11:03:12 EVERYWHERE WITHIN WEST SHORE.
7/30/09 11:03:14 >> THAT'S OUR HOPE.
7/30/09 11:03:16 OUR MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE IS
7/30/09 11:03:16 DOING THAT RIGHT NOW.
7/30/09 11:03:18 YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
7/30/09 11:03:19 WE PLAN ON WORKING WITH
7/30/09 11:03:21 EVERYBODY ESPECIALLY NEW
7/30/09 11:03:21 DEVELOPMENTS.
7/30/09 11:03:22 >> AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL COME
7/30/09 11:03:25 BACK TO THE CITY
7/30/09 11:03:26 SPECIFICALLY
7/30/09 11:03:28 WORKING WITH OUR TRANSPORTATION
7/30/09 11:03:31 DEPARTMENT
7/30/09 11:03:34 TO ENCOURAGE US TO.
7/30/09 11:03:37 WE HAVEN'T
7/30/09 11:03:40 DONE THAT
7/30/09 11:03:40 UP.
7/30/09 11:03:42 >> WEST SHORE IS NOT A GREAT
7/30/09 11:03:45 PLACE TO WALK RIGHT NOW.
7/30/09 11:03:45 >> THAT'S RIGHT.
7/30/09 11:03:47 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 11:03:50 >> I WANT TO THANK
7/30/09 11:03:50 THEM FOR
7/30/09 11:03:53 DOING A GREAT JOB
7/30/09 11:03:54 ON THE PLAN.
7/30/09 11:03:57 >> APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THEY
7/30/09 11:03:57 HAVE DONE.
7/30/09 11:03:58 THERE ARE REALLY THREE
7/30/09 11:04:01 NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE BEEN
7/30/09 11:04:04 WORKING WITH YOU PRIMARILY ON
7/30/09 11:04:05 WHAT WAS ALLUDED TO,
7/30/09 11:04:06 TRANSPORTATION AND SO FORTH.
7/30/09 11:04:08 BEFORE MY TERM IS UP I WOULD
7/30/09 11:04:09 REALLY LIKE TO SEE SOME WORK
7/30/09 11:04:12 DONE ON SOME OF THE DITCHES.
7/30/09 11:04:13 BIG DITCHES THAT YOU HAVE AND I
7/30/09 11:04:15 KNOW IT IS EXPENSIVE AND I KNOW
7/30/09 11:04:18 IT IS COSTLY AND I KNOW IT IS
7/30/09 11:04:20 TIME CONSUMING BUT WITHOUT THAT
7/30/09 11:04:23 THERE IS VERY LITTLE
7/30/09 11:04:23 TRANSPORTATION.
7/30/09 11:04:24 YOU CAN'T WALK IN A DITCH AND
7/30/09 11:04:27 YOU CAN'T PUT A FLOATING
7/30/09 11:04:30 SIDEWALK ON A DITCH SO THERE IS
7/30/09 11:04:31 ONLY ONE SOLUTION.
7/30/09 11:04:33 THAT IS TO TRY TO SOLVE THE
7/30/09 11:04:34 DITCH PROBLEM TO HAVE THE NEXT
7/30/09 11:04:37 STEP SO YOU CAN GO WALK ON THAT
7/30/09 11:04:37 NEXT STEP.
7/30/09 11:04:40 SO WE HAVE A CULMINATION
7/30/09 11:04:40 OF
7/30/09 11:04:43 THINGS THAT DON'T MUCH UP TOO
7/30/09 11:04:45 WELL AN I GAVE MY WORD THAT I
7/30/09 11:04:45 WAS GOING TO TRY.
7/30/09 11:04:48 SO WE ARE GOING TO
7/30/09 11:04:50 TRY TO START
7/30/09 11:04:50 TO TRY.
7/30/09 11:04:52 >> WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO A
7/30/09 11:04:54 LOT OF PEOPLE AND YOU HAVE
7/30/09 11:04:54 HELPED.
7/30/09 11:04:55 OBVIOUSLY THAT IS A MAJOR
7/30/09 11:04:57 PROBLEM WE HAVE HAD.
7/30/09 11:04:58 WE NEED TO START SOMEWHERE.
7/30/09 11:05:01 >> THANK
7/30/09 11:05:04 YOU VERY MUCH.
7/30/09 11:05:07 >> COUNCIL, IF I MAY JUST ADD
7/30/09 11:05:10 FOR DIRECTION IF YOU WISH
7/30/09 11:05:10 TO
7/30/09 11:05:11 RECEIVE AND FILE WHICH YOU DO
7/30/09 11:05:13 IF HE END OF THE DAY THIS HAS
7/30/09 11:05:15 NO LEGAL EFFECT.
7/30/09 11:05:18 IF YOU WISH TO DIRECT THE LAND
7/30/09 11:05:19 AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION TO
7/30/09 11:05:20 TAKE THIS PLAN AND BEGIN
7/30/09 11:05:22 AMENDING THE CODE TO IMPLEMENT
7/30/09 11:05:22 IT THAT WOULD BE A DIRECTION
7/30/09 11:05:26 YOU WOULD HAVE TO GIVE
7/30/09 11:05:26 TO THE
7/30/09 11:05:26 ADMINISTRATION.
7/30/09 11:05:29 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T
7/30/09 11:05:30 MIND
7/30/09 11:05:33 DOING THAT.
7/30/09 11:05:34 THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN
7/30/09 11:05:35 WORKING ON THE PLAN.
7/30/09 11:05:37 THEY KNOW THE AREA AN
7/30/09 11:05:37 UNDERSTAND THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS
7/30/09 11:05:39 BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE THEY
7/30/09 11:05:39 HAVE BEEN TO.
7/30/09 11:05:41 THEY HAVE MADE A CONCERTED
7/30/09 11:05:43 EFFORT NOT YESTERDAY BUT FOR
7/30/09 11:05:45 YEARS AND I KNOW SOMETIMES THE
7/30/09 11:05:47 MONEYS THEY COLLECT TO DO
7/30/09 11:05:48 TRANSPORTATION CAN'T BE USED
7/30/09 11:05:51 FOR A LOT OF OTHER THINGS
7/30/09 11:05:51 BUT
7/30/09 11:05:53 WE HAVE TOLIKE AND HELP THE
7/30/09 11:05:54 GUIDELINES TO HELP THE
7/30/09 11:05:55 NEIGHBORHOOD HELP THEMSELVES.
7/30/09 11:05:57 I DON'T THINK THEY ARE ASKING
7/30/09 11:05:57 FOR A HANDOUT.
7/30/09 11:05:59 THEY ARE ASKING FOR A PUSH IN
7/30/09 11:05:59 THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
7/30/09 11:06:00 AND THEY HAVE DONE THE HARD
7/30/09 11:06:03 WORK AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO
7/30/09 11:06:04 DO THE HARD WORK.
7/30/09 11:06:05 ALL THEY NEED IS THIS
7/30/09 11:06:06 GOVERNMENT TO GET BEHIND THEM
7/30/09 11:06:08 AND GIVE THEM A LITTLE TUG ONCE
7/30/09 11:06:09 IN A WHILE TO MAKE SURE THAT
7/30/09 11:06:11 THE THINGS THAT THEY WANT ARE
7/30/09 11:06:11 ACCOMPLISHED.
7/30/09 11:06:14 SO I MOVE THAT SECOND
7/30/09 11:06:17 PART OF
7/30/09 11:06:20 WHAT OUR CITY COUNCIL
7/30/09 11:06:21 ATTORNEY
7/30/09 11:06:22 JUST ALLUDED TO.
7/30/09 11:06:23 >> SECOND.
7/30/09 11:06:26 >> MOVED AND
7/30/09 11:06:26 SECOND.
7/30/09 11:06:28 ALL IN FAVOR?
7/30/09 11:06:28 >> AYE.
7/30/09 11:06:28 >> OPPOSERS?
7/30/09 11:06:30 >> THAT WILL HAVE TO COME BACK
7/30/09 11:06:33 TO YOU IN THE FUTURE
7/30/09 11:06:38 FOR
7/30/09 11:06:38 ADOPTION.
7/30/09 11:06:41 >> ITEM
7/30/09 11:06:41 55.
7/30/09 11:06:44 CONTINUED TO
7/30/09 11:06:49 AUGUST 20th.
7/30/09 11:06:52 ITEM 56.
7/30/09 11:06:54 ?OOL MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
7/30/09 11:06:54 >> SECOND.
7/30/09 11:06:58 ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING
7/30/09 11:06:58 AYE.
7/30/09 11:06:58 >> AYE.
7/30/09 11:06:59 >> ITEM 57.
7/30/09 11:07:02 >> ALSO
7/30/09 11:07:03 A WRITTEN REPORT.
7/30/09 11:07:05 IT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU.
7/30/09 11:07:05 >> MOTION.
7/30/09 11:07:08 RECEIVED AND FILE.
7/30/09 11:07:09 SAY AYE.
7/30/09 11:07:11 >> AYE.
7/30/09 11:07:14 >>
7/30/09 11:07:14 OPPOSERS?
7/30/09 11:07:17 ITEM
7/30/09 11:07:18 58.
7/30/09 11:07:19 MR. FLETCHER.
7/30/09 11:07:19 >> REBECCA.
7/30/09 11:07:22 >> YOU DON'T LOOK LIKE
7/30/09 11:07:23 MR.
7/30/09 11:07:23 FLETCHER.
7/30/09 11:07:24 >> THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
7/30/09 11:07:27 THE LAST TIME THIS CAME UP
7/30/09 11:07:27 THE
7/30/09 11:07:28 LEGAL DEPARTMENT WAS DIRECTED
7/30/09 11:07:31 TO COME UP WITH OPTIONS WHILE
7/30/09 11:07:32 PROVIDING SOME SAFETY
7/30/09 11:07:33 PRECAUTIONS.
7/30/09 11:07:35 WE PROVIDED YOU EARLIER IN THE
7/30/09 11:07:35 WEEK TWO OPTIONS.
7/30/09 11:07:38 THE OPTIONS ARE VERY SIMILAR
7/30/09 11:07:40 THEY BOTH PROHIBIT SOLICITING
7/30/09 11:07:41 EMPLOYMENT BUSINESS OR
7/30/09 11:07:42 CONTRIBUTIONS FROM ANY VEHICLES
7/30/09 11:07:45 IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY UNLESS YOU
7/30/09 11:07:46 MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA.
7/30/09 11:07:48 BOTH OPTIONS PROVIDE THE
7/30/09 11:07:49 FOLLOWING CRITERIA.
7/30/09 11:07:51 SOLLY'S TAKINGS IS PROHIBITED
7/30/09 11:07:51 EXCEPTION DURING DAYLIGHT
7/30/09 11:07:52 HOURS.
7/30/09 11:07:55 IT CAN ONLY BE TWO VEHICLES
7/30/09 11:08:01 THAT ARE LAWFULLY
7/30/09 11:08:01 STOPPED.
7/30/09 11:08:04 AMPLIFYING MACHINES
7/30/09 11:08:05 ARE
7/30/09 11:08:05 PROHIBITED.
7/30/09 11:08:08 MUST BE AT LEAST 18 YEARS
7/30/09 11:08:11 OLD
7/30/09 11:08:14 AND ALL SOLICITORS MUST
7/30/09 11:08:14 WEAR
7/30/09 11:08:16 ALL BRIGHT VESTS.
7/30/09 11:08:19 OPTION 1 AND OPTION 2
7/30/09 11:08:20 DIFFERENCE THE SOLICITOR MUST
7/30/09 11:08:21 PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE
7/30/09 11:08:23 POLICE DEPARTMENT 14 DAYS IN
7/30/09 11:08:24 ADVANCE INCLUDING THEIR NAME
7/30/09 11:08:28 AND ADDRESS AND HOURS AND
7/30/09 11:08:28 DATES
7/30/09 11:08:29 AND LOCATION AND LOCATION.
7/30/09 11:08:32 DURING PUBLIC COMMENT THERE
7/30/09 11:08:33 WAS
7/30/09 11:08:36 AN ISSUE RAISED ABOUT 1st
7/30/09 11:08:37 AMENDMENT ISSUES ABOUT THE
7/30/09 11:08:37 AGREEMENT.
7/30/09 11:08:40 THE COURTS HAVE NOT
7/30/09 11:08:41 BEEN
7/30/09 11:08:42 COMPLETELY CONSISTENT REGARDING
7/30/09 11:08:42 THE AGREEMENTS.
7/30/09 11:08:43 THAT BEING SAID IT IS VERY
7/30/09 11:08:46 CLEAR THAT COURTS HAVE BEEN
7/30/09 11:08:49 SKEPTICAL OF VERY BROAD
7/30/09 11:08:49 AGREEMENTS.
7/30/09 11:08:50 THIS PROVISION WAS EXPRESSLY
7/30/09 11:08:52 WRITTEN TO BE VERY NARROWLY
7/30/09 11:08:53 TAILORED SO THEY WERE ONLY
7/30/09 11:08:56 AGREEING TO HOLD THE CITY
7/30/09 11:08:59 HARMLESS AND INDEMNIFY THE CITY
7/30/09 11:09:01 FROM ANY DAMAGE CAUSED OR FOR
7/30/09 11:09:02 ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED OUT
7/30/09 11:09:03 THERE.
7/30/09 11:09:04 WE WOULD FOR THE HAVE BROUGHT
7/30/09 11:09:07 IT TO YOU IF WE DID NOT BRING
7/30/09 11:09:10 IT WAS LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE BUT
7/30/09 11:09:13 IT DOES PROVIDE SOMEONE TO
7/30/09 11:09:15 OPPORTUNITY TO CHALLENGE THE
7/30/09 11:09:15 OBLIGATION.
7/30/09 11:09:16 I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY COMMENTS.
7/30/09 11:09:20 >> AND WE ARE
7/30/09 11:09:23 LOOKING FOR
7/30/09 11:09:23 SOME
7/30/09 11:09:23 DIRECTION.
7/30/09 11:09:26 >> YOU DIDN'T SPEAK TO ITEM 2,
7/30/09 11:09:27 YOU SPOKE MORE TO ITEM 1.
7/30/09 11:09:29 >> THEY ARE COMPLETELY THE SAME
7/30/09 11:09:32 EXCEPT FOR OPTION 1 REQUIRES
7/30/09 11:09:32 THE SOLICITOR TO REPORT
7/30/09 11:09:34 INFORMATION TO THE POLICE
7/30/09 11:09:35 DEPARTMENT IN ADVANCE OF --
7/30/09 11:09:37 >> WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION
7/30/09 11:09:40 GIVEN THESE TWO
7/30/09 11:09:42 OPTIONS?
7/30/09 11:09:43 WHAT WOULD BE YOUR
7/30/09 11:09:45 RECOMMENDATION OUT OF THE TWO
7/30/09 11:09:45 ITEMS?
7/30/09 11:09:48 >> IT IS A
7/30/09 11:09:50 POLICY DECISION.
7/30/09 11:09:51 OPTION 2 HAS LESS LEGAL REST
7/30/09 11:09:53 THAN OPTION 1 DOES BECAUSE IT
7/30/09 11:09:56 DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY PRIOR
7/30/09 11:09:57 REPORTING ACTIVITY.
7/30/09 11:09:57 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 11:09:59 >> BUT IT DEPENDS ON THE WORTH
7/30/09 11:10:02 THAT YOU PUT ON KNOWING THAT
7/30/09 11:10:03 INFORMATION IN ADVANCE.
7/30/09 11:10:04 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 11:10:04 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 11:10:06 MR.CHAIRMAN BEFORE WE CONTINUE
7/30/09 11:10:07 WITH THE LEGAL DISCUSSION IF I
7/30/09 11:10:10 MAY GO A LITTLE BIT IN
7/30/09 11:10:10 HISTORY,
7/30/09 11:10:13 MANY YEARS AGO IT WAS ONLY
7/30/09 11:10:14 TWO
7/30/09 11:10:16 PRIMARY INDIVIDUALS WHO WOULD
7/30/09 11:10:19 DO THIS
7/30/09 11:10:20 TYPE OF SOLICITATION
7/30/09 11:10:22 AND OF THAT THE SHRINER'S AND
7/30/09 11:10:24 FIREFIGHTERS ON THE BOOT DRIVE.
7/30/09 11:10:25 AT THAT TIME --I DON'T KNOW IF
7/30/09 11:10:26 THIS IS LEGAL ANY MORE --THEY
7/30/09 11:10:28 HAD TO GET AN INSURANCE POLICY
7/30/09 11:10:30 TO COVER ANY LOSSES OR WHATEVER
7/30/09 11:10:33 AND THEY ALL OF A SUDDEN MORE
7/30/09 11:10:36 AND MORE
7/30/09 11:10:39 CAME ON WITHOUT ANY
7/30/09 11:10:40 NOTIFICATION TO THE GOVERNMENT,
7/30/09 11:10:42 CITY OF TAMPA AND THEY WOULD
7/30/09 11:10:44 JUST STAND OUT THERE AND SAY I
7/30/09 11:10:46 COLLECT MONEY FOR X, Y, Z IN
7/30/09 11:10:47 THE NEXT CORNER AND IT IS DONE
7/30/09 11:10:49 ALL OVER THE CITY.
7/30/09 11:10:52 I SECONDED THIS MOTION, BRING
7/30/09 11:10:53 IT TO THE FOREFRONT TO LET'S
7/30/09 11:10:54 FINALIZE WHATEVER WE ARE GOING
7/30/09 11:10:55 TO DO.
7/30/09 11:10:56 IT IS NOT FAIR TO CONTINUE
7/30/09 11:10:56 THESE THINGS.
7/30/09 11:10:58 THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON NOW FOR
7/30/09 11:11:00 OVER A YEAR, I BELIEVE.
7/30/09 11:11:01 ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
7/30/09 11:11:04 BUT I SEE PEOPLE
7/30/09 11:11:06 LIKE IN GANDY,
7/30/09 11:11:07 I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY REPRESENT
7/30/09 11:11:09 BUT IT IS UP TO THE PUBLIC TO
7/30/09 11:11:11 DETERMINE IN MY JUDGMENT IF
7/30/09 11:11:13 THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE
7/30/09 11:11:14 THERE, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, ARE
7/30/09 11:11:15 REALLY GIVING TO WHAT THEY SAY
7/30/09 11:11:17 THEY ARE GIVING TO AND THERE IS
7/30/09 11:11:19 NO WAY OF CHECKING THESE
7/30/09 11:11:19 THINGS.
7/30/09 11:11:21 CERTAINLY WHEN YOU HAD A SMALL
7/30/09 11:11:24 GROUP IT WAS
7/30/09 11:11:25 MUCH MORE
7/30/09 11:11:25 CONTROLLED.
7/30/09 11:11:28 NOW, IS DO AS YOU
7/30/09 11:11:28 PLEASE.
7/30/09 11:11:29 I CAN SAY THIS.
7/30/09 11:11:31 IN THE NEWSPAPER INDUSTRY THEY
7/30/09 11:11:33 ARE FACING AN ENORMOUS PROBLEM
7/30/09 11:11:36 AND THAT PROBLEM IS
7/30/09 11:11:37 CALLED THE
7/30/09 11:11:37 INTERNET.
7/30/09 11:11:40 LET ME JUST SAY THAT I DID NOT
7/30/09 11:11:42 INVENT THE INTERNET.
7/30/09 11:11:43 I'M NOT AL GORE.
7/30/09 11:11:45 BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN THE
7/30/09 11:11:46 INTERNET THE REVENUE THAT IS
7/30/09 11:11:48 COMING IN COMPARED TO THE
7/30/09 11:11:50 REVENUE THAT THEY USED TO
7/30/09 11:11:52 CREATE ARE NIL COMPARED TO WHAT
7/30/09 11:11:53 WAS THERE BEFORE.
7/30/09 11:11:55 TO ME IT IS UNAMERICAN NOT TO
7/30/09 11:11:56 READ A NEWSPAPER.
7/30/09 11:11:57 THAT'S JUST ME.
7/30/09 11:12:00 I BUY BOTH OF
7/30/09 11:12:00 THEM.
7/30/09 11:12:03 AND I AGREE AND DISAGREE EVERY
7/30/09 11:12:04 DAY.
7/30/09 11:12:04 YOU KNOW WHAT?
7/30/09 11:12:07 THEY AGREE
7/30/09 11:12:09 AND DISAGREE WITH
7/30/09 11:12:09 ME EVERY DAY.
7/30/09 11:12:12 WE HAVE
7/30/09 11:12:14 A GREAT COMPROMISE.
7/30/09 11:12:17 SOMEBODY BEING IN THE RIGHT-OF-
7/30/09 11:12:20 WAY IN MY
7/30/09 11:12:21 OPINION, IT IS 1
7/30/09 11:12:24 MILLIONth OF A DEGREE TO THE
7/30/09 11:12:25 DANGERS WE HAVE OF PEOPLE
7/30/09 11:12:27 EATING IN THEIR CAR DRIVING,
7/30/09 11:12:28 USING A CELL PHONE, TEXTING TO
7/30/09 11:12:28 SOMEBODY.
7/30/09 11:12:29 I GUARANTEE YOU --I'M NOT
7/30/09 11:12:32 ASKING FOR A STUDY BECAUSE THE
7/30/09 11:12:35 STUDY WOULD
7/30/09 11:12:38 COME OUT
7/30/09 11:12:40 100-DEGREE
7/30/09 11:12:41 100 DEGREES.
7/30/09 11:12:42 THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE GETTING
7/30/09 11:12:44 HURT AND LOSING THEIR LIFE
7/30/09 11:12:47 BECAUSE OF THE PLAIN TECH
7/30/09 11:12:48 KNOWLEDGE.
7/30/09 11:12:49 I WAS THINKING THE OTHER DAY ON
7/30/09 11:12:52 A CELL PHONE AND ON A
7/30/09 11:12:53 CABLE
7/30/09 11:12:56 THAN MY SALARY WAS
7/30/09 11:12:56 IN 1965.
7/30/09 11:12:58 WHEN YOU START THINKING THAT
7/30/09 11:13:01 WAY WE ARE
7/30/09 11:13:02 THE PROBLEM.
7/30/09 11:13:05 SO I'M SAYING THAT
7/30/09 11:13:07 --THERE HAS
7/30/09 11:13:09 GOT TO BE LEGALLY.
7/30/09 11:13:10 IS THERE ANY WAY WHERE WE CAN
7/30/09 11:13:13 CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE ARE
7/30/09 11:13:15 DOING AND YET CONTROL THE
7/30/09 11:13:16 SITUATION WHERE IT DOESN'T
7/30/09 11:13:17 BECOME ON EVERY CORNER IN THE
7/30/09 11:13:20 CITY YOU'VE GOT
7/30/09 11:13:26 SOMETHING
7/30/09 11:13:29 GOING
7/30/09 11:13:29 ON?
7/30/09 11:13:29 YOUR TURN.
7/30/09 11:13:30 >> REBECCA, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
7/30/09 11:13:32 WE DO BELIEVE THE TWO OPTIONS
7/30/09 11:13:35 WE HAVE BEFORE YOU LIMIT THE
7/30/09 11:13:36 RISK OF THE DANGER FROM THIS.
7/30/09 11:13:38 IF YOU WANT TO TAKE FURTHER
7/30/09 11:13:40 STEPS AND LIMIT IT TO ONLY
7/30/09 11:13:43 CERTAIN INTERSECTIONS BASED
7/30/09 11:13:43 UPON SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS THEN
7/30/09 11:13:46 WE WOULD NEED TO
7/30/09 11:13:47 GET ADDITIONAL
7/30/09 11:13:49 INFORMATION STUDIES TO COME
7/30/09 11:13:49 BACK.
7/30/09 11:13:50 YOU COULD DO THAT BUT COULDN'T
7/30/09 11:13:51 DO THAT TODAY YOU WOULD HAVE TO
7/30/09 11:13:53 HAVE INFORMATION TO BACK UP THE
7/30/09 11:13:56 LOCATIONS YOU ARE LIMITING IT
7/30/09 11:13:56 TO.
7/30/09 11:13:56 >> IF I MAY?
7/30/09 11:13:59 IT IS NOT ONLY THESE TWO
7/30/09 11:14:02 NEWSPAPERS I SEE OTHERS FROM --
7/30/09 11:14:05 I DON'T WANT TO
7/30/09 11:14:07 BE IN ANY WAY
7/30/09 11:14:08 STOPPING THE MEDIA FROM
7/30/09 11:14:11 REPORTING AND THAT'S ONE
7/30/09 11:14:12 OF MY
7/30/09 11:14:12 CONCERNS.
7/30/09 11:14:13 I CERTAINLY FEEL WE HAVE THE
7/30/09 11:14:16 RIGHT IN WHATEVER FORM THEY DO
7/30/09 11:14:19 TO DISTRIBUTE THEIR NEWS.
7/30/09 11:14:22 >> AND THAT'S WHAT
7/30/09 11:14:25 CONCERNS
7/30/09 11:14:25 ME
7/30/09 11:14:25 THE MOST.
7/30/09 11:14:27 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU.
7/30/09 11:14:29 LAST WEEK I WITNESSED SOMEBODY
7/30/09 11:14:31 SELLING THE ST. PETE TIMES ON
7/30/09 11:14:33 THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
7/30/09 11:14:35 YOU HAD A CHAIR ON THE SIDE OF
7/30/09 11:14:38 THE ROAD AND HE WAS SOUND
7/30/09 11:14:38 ASLEEP, OKAY.
7/30/09 11:14:40 HOLDING A NEWSPAPER IN HIS HAND
7/30/09 11:14:43 AND I DID BUY A NEWSPAPER FROM
7/30/09 11:14:46 ANOTHER GENTLEMAN THAT WAS
7/30/09 11:14:46 AWAKE.
7/30/09 11:14:49 NOW, I'VE GOT SOME VIDEO
7/30/09 11:14:50 DONE
7/30/09 11:14:52 BY ABC NEWS SHOWING SOLICITORS
7/30/09 11:14:55 IN THE ROAD WITH A VEST ON
7/30/09 11:14:58 WHILE THE TRAFFIC IS GOING BACK
7/30/09 11:14:58 AND FORTH.
7/30/09 11:15:01 NOW, IF WE ALLOW ITEM 2 HERE,
7/30/09 11:15:03 ITEM 3 IN OPTION NUMBER 2 THE
7/30/09 11:15:05 RIGHT TO BE OUT ON THE ROAD WE
7/30/09 11:15:06 ARE GOING TO HAVE A SEPARATE
7/30/09 11:15:08 BUZZER TO SAY THE LIGHT IS
7/30/09 11:15:11 GOING TO CHANGE GET OFF THE
7/30/09 11:15:12 ROAD.
7/30/09 11:15:15 THIS IS
7/30/09 11:15:16 TOO CONVOLUTED, THIS
7/30/09 11:15:19 WILL BE A MESS, PEOPLE WILL GET
7/30/09 11:15:19 HURT.
7/30/09 11:15:21 I'M NOT OPPOSED TO ADOPTING
7/30/09 11:15:22 SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE
7/30/09 11:15:25 SAFE FOR THE PEOPLE BUT WHEN I
7/30/09 11:15:25 SEE A GENTLEMAN SLEEPING ON THE
7/30/09 11:15:27 SIDE OF THE ROAD LIKE THIS
7/30/09 11:15:30 HOLDING A NEWSPAPER WE CAN'T
7/30/09 11:15:31 HAVE THAT.
7/30/09 11:15:32 LITTER THE ROADWAY.
7/30/09 11:15:34 IT IS FILLED WITH THOSE LITTLE
7/30/09 11:15:35 PLASTIC RIBBONS THAT TIE UP THE
7/30/09 11:15:36 NEWSPAPERS AND THEY ARE NOT
7/30/09 11:15:38 CLEANED UP.
7/30/09 11:15:40 IT IS A MESS.
7/30/09 11:15:42 AND ONCE IT STARTS TO BE
7/30/09 11:15:43 REMODELLED IT IS BEING
7/30/09 11:15:45 REMODELLED RIGHT NOW THEY DON'T
7/30/09 11:15:46 HAVE ANY PLACE TO BE STANDING.
7/30/09 11:15:49 SO SOMEONE DEFINITELY IS GOING
7/30/09 11:15:54 TO GET HURT.
7/30/09 11:15:57 >> I JUST WANTED TO ASK
7/30/09 11:15:59 IF THEY
7/30/09 11:16:01 ACTUALLY HAVE DELIVERY UP IN
7/30/09 11:16:02 NEW TAMPA BECAUSE THERE SEEMS
7/30/09 11:16:05 TO BE A
7/30/09 11:16:08 LOT
7/30/09 11:16:11 OF VENDORS HERE.
7/30/09 11:16:14 >> GET THE
7/30/09 11:16:14 TIMES.
7/30/09 11:16:16 >> I THINK ABC, YOUR T.V.
7/30/09 11:16:19 STATION, IS THE TRIBUNE
7/30/09 11:16:20 TOO.
7/30/09 11:16:21 >> NBC.
7/30/09 11:16:22 >> MY QUESTION IS.
7/30/09 11:16:25 >> FOR CHRISTMAS I'M GOING TO
7/30/09 11:16:26 BUY THE TRIBUNE.
7/30/09 11:16:28 >> THIS REQUEST WAS GENERATED
7/30/09 11:16:31 BY COUNCIL QUITE
7/30/09 11:16:34 AWHILE AGO,
7/30/09 11:16:34 RIGHT?
7/30/09 11:16:37 >> THIS WAS TO CREATE
7/30/09 11:16:38 NEW
7/30/09 11:16:39 ORDINANCES COMING FROM LEGAL.
7/30/09 11:16:41 WHAT PART OF THIS IS IF IT IS?
7/30/09 11:16:42 THAT'S MY QUESTION?
7/30/09 11:16:44 >> EXCUSE ME.
7/30/09 11:16:45 IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
7/30/09 11:16:47 JUST KIND OF THE CONTEXT AND
7/30/09 11:16:50 HISTORY OF THIS IS THAT THE
7/30/09 11:16:52 ISSUE OF SOLICITATION AND RIGHT-
7/30/09 11:16:55 OF-WAY WAS RAISED BY COUNCIL.
7/30/09 11:16:56 WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY ON THE
7/30/09 11:16:59 CITY CODE IS A PERMIT
7/30/09 11:17:00 SYSTEM
7/30/09 11:17:03 THAT FOLLOWS STATE LAW THAT
7/30/09 11:17:04 REQUIRES PERMITS FOR CERTAIN
7/30/09 11:17:06 TYPES OF GROUPS THEN REQUIRES
7/30/09 11:17:08 THAT THE NONPROFITS BE TREATED
7/30/09 11:17:08 DIFFERENTLY.
7/30/09 11:17:11 FEDERAL COURTS HAVE SAID YOU
7/30/09 11:17:12 CAN'T DO THAT.
7/30/09 11:17:13 YOU'VE GOT TO TREAT EVERYBODY
7/30/09 11:17:14 THE SAME.
7/30/09 11:17:17 YOU STILL HAVE THE STATE
7/30/09 11:17:20 STATUTE THAT REQUIRES THAT AND
7/30/09 11:17:22 THOSE TWO ARE IN CONFLICT.
7/30/09 11:17:24 THERE IS A QUESTION TO OUR
7/30/09 11:17:25 ABILITY TO ENFORCE OUR CURRENT
7/30/09 11:17:27 ORDINANCE SO FROM A LEGAL
7/30/09 11:17:28 PERSPECTIVE I THINK WE NEED TO
7/30/09 11:17:30 DO SOMETHING SO THAT WE HAVE
7/30/09 11:17:32 STANDARDS IN PLACE THAT WE CAN
7/30/09 11:17:35 CLEARLY ENFORCE WHATEVER THOSE
7/30/09 11:17:38 ARE THAT COUNCIL CHOOSES.
7/30/09 11:17:39 FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT THE
7/30/09 11:17:41 OPTIONS ARE A COMPLETE
7/30/09 11:17:43 PROHIBITION WHICH WHEN COUNCIL
7/30/09 11:17:44 DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE, COUNCIL
7/30/09 11:17:47 DID NOT DESIRE TO GO IN THAT
7/30/09 11:17:50 DIRECTION OR SOMETHING THAT HAD
7/30/09 11:17:51 CERTAIN SAFETY CRITERIA THAT IS
7/30/09 11:17:52 WHAT WE PRESENTED TO ALL OF YOU
7/30/09 11:17:55 TODAY AFTER WORKING WITH THE
7/30/09 11:17:56 POLICE DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC
7/30/09 11:17:57 WORKS SO THERE WOULD BE SOME
7/30/09 11:17:58 TYPE OF STANDARD IN PLACE THAT
7/30/09 11:18:01 COULD BE IN FORCE FOR OPERATION
7/30/09 11:18:02 IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
7/30/09 11:18:04 WE GAVE YOU TWO DIFFERENT
7/30/09 11:18:06 VERSIONS OF THAT.
7/30/09 11:18:07 ONE THAT REQUIRES ADVANCE
7/30/09 11:18:09 NOTICE, ONE THAT DOES NOT.
7/30/09 11:18:11 THE SAFETY STANDARDS ARE MORE
7/30/09 11:18:12 OR LESS THE SAME.
7/30/09 11:18:15 IN FACT THE SAFETY STANDARDS
7/30/09 11:18:17 ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.
7/30/09 11:18:20 IT WOULD GIVE THE
7/30/09 11:18:23 DEPARTMENT
7/30/09 11:18:26 WITH THAT
7/30/09 11:18:28 ADVANCE PROVISION.
7/30/09 11:18:31 TO BE AWARE OF IT OF CERTAIN
7/30/09 11:18:33 ACTIVITY.
7/30/09 11:18:34 SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT IS BEFORE
7/30/09 11:18:37 YOU TODAY.
7/30/09 11:18:38 JUST IN TERMS OF CONTEXT I WILL
7/30/09 11:18:39 MENTION ORIGINALLY WHAT WE WERE
7/30/09 11:18:41 ASKED TO DO WAS WORK WITH THE
7/30/09 11:18:44 COUNTY TO DEVELOP CONSISTENT
7/30/09 11:18:44 STANDARDS.
7/30/09 11:18:45 AND AT THAT TIME OUR
7/30/09 11:18:46 UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE
7/30/09 11:18:49 COUNTY WAS GOING TO
7/30/09 11:18:50 LOOK AT
7/30/09 11:18:51 THIS ISSUE TO DATE WE ARE NOT
7/30/09 11:18:54 CLEAR ON WHAT THEY
7/30/09 11:18:55 ARE DOING
7/30/09 11:18:55 THOUGH.
7/30/09 11:18:57 THEY HAVE COMPLETED THEIR
7/30/09 11:18:58 COMPLETE PROHIBITION OF
7/30/09 11:18:58 SOLICITATION IN THE RIGHT-OF-
7/30/09 11:18:59 WAY.
7/30/09 11:19:00 THERE IS NO NEED FOR YOU TO ACT
7/30/09 11:19:03 TODAY BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE
7/30/09 11:19:05 NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO HAVE A
7/30/09 11:19:07 CLEAR STANDARD FOR SAFETY IN
7/30/09 11:19:07 THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
7/30/09 11:19:07 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 11:19:10 THEN I'D LIKE TO ASK, BECAUSE
7/30/09 11:19:12 I'M NOT CLEAR, WE HAVE ALL
7/30/09 11:19:14 THESE PEOPLE WHO CAME HERE
7/30/09 11:19:17 TODAY TO DEFEND THEIR
7/30/09 11:19:20 LIVELIHOOD AND I'M NOT CLEAR ON
7/30/09 11:19:21 WHAT THEIR POSITION WOULD BE
7/30/09 11:19:23 WITH REGARD TO THE TWO OPTIONS
7/30/09 11:19:23 YOU HAVE.
7/30/09 11:19:26 SO I'D LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL
7/30/09 11:19:29 IF
7/30/09 11:19:30 WE COULD AALLOW SOME --
7/30/09 11:19:33 >> IF I MAY, MR.
7/30/09 11:19:33 CHAIRMAN.
7/30/09 11:19:36 >> MAYBE SOMEONE CAN EXPLAIN
7/30/09 11:19:37 TO
7/30/09 11:19:37 ME --
7/30/09 11:19:38 >> THEY PREFERRED NUMBER 2.
7/30/09 11:19:40 >> THEY ARE OKAY WITH NUMBER 2.
7/30/09 11:19:43 >> THE ATTORNEY FROM THE
7/30/09 11:19:44 TRIBUNE SAID THEY PREFER NUMBER
7/30/09 11:19:47 2. EITHER ONE IS OKAY BUT THEY
7/30/09 11:19:48 PREFER NUMBER 2.
7/30/09 11:19:49 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 11:19:52 CAN WE MODIFY NUMBER 2,
7/30/09 11:19:57 MR.
7/30/09 11:19:57 CHAIRMAN?
7/30/09 11:20:00 >>
7/30/09 11:20:08 >> MR. FLETCHER DO YOU WANT TO
7/30/09 11:20:09 ADD ANYTHING ELSE.
7/30/09 11:20:10 >> THE ONLY TWO OTHER THINGS I
7/30/09 11:20:11 WOULD MENTION WHAT WE GAVE TO
7/30/09 11:20:14 YOU TODAY IS OPTIONS
7/30/09 11:20:16 FOR YOUR
7/30/09 11:20:16 CONSIDERATION.
7/30/09 11:20:17 SHE HAS DONE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH
7/30/09 11:20:18 IN THIS AREA AND I HAVE
7/30/09 11:20:19 COMPLETE CONFIDENCE IN HER
7/30/09 11:20:21 RESEARCH AND ABILITY IN THIS
7/30/09 11:20:21 AREA.
7/30/09 11:20:24 WHICH IS WHY SHE
7/30/09 11:20:25 DID THIS
7/30/09 11:20:25 INITIAL PRESENTATION.
7/30/09 11:20:28 IN LOOKING AT THE VARIOUS
7/30/09 11:20:29 ORDINANCES AN DIFFERENT PLACES
7/30/09 11:20:32 AROUND THE STATE, I'LL
7/30/09 11:20:34 MENTION
7/30/09 11:20:35 IN RELATION TO THE QUESTION
7/30/09 11:20:38 ABOUT KIND OF THE CAPACITY OF
7/30/09 11:20:40 AN AREA TO HAVE SOLLY'S TAKINGS
7/30/09 11:20:42 THERE ARE SOME PLACES THAT HAVE
7/30/09 11:20:43 SEWED PROVISIONS RELATED TO
7/30/09 11:20:43 THAT.
7/30/09 11:20:45 WE COULD LOOK AT THOSE IN MORE
7/30/09 11:20:46 DETAIL AND GET BACK TO YOU.
7/30/09 11:20:47 THAT WASN'T REALLY OUR FOCUS
7/30/09 11:20:49 BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE SOME TYPE
7/30/09 11:20:50 OF TRAFFIC AND SAFETY ANALYSIS
7/30/09 11:20:53 TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS A
7/30/09 11:20:55 NEED FOR FURTHER REGULATION OF
7/30/09 11:20:56 THOSE AREAS.
7/30/09 11:20:59 >> I'M GOING TO GIVE UP THE
7/30/09 11:21:02 GAVEL AND MOVE THE OPTION 2 ON
7/30/09 11:21:03 THIS ORDINANCE.
7/30/09 11:21:04 >> SECOND.
7/30/09 11:21:07 >> I BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE WHO
7/30/09 11:21:10 ARE MAKING A LEGITIMATE SALARY
7/30/09 11:21:13 OR INCOME, LEGITIMATE SALARY
7/30/09 11:21:13 AND INCOME.
7/30/09 11:21:15 I SAID BEFORE THE ECONOMY WILL
7/30/09 11:21:16 GET WORSE AND YOU WILL FIND
7/30/09 11:21:19 MORE PEOPLE OUT TRYING TO
7/30/09 11:21:21 SUBSIDIZE OR HAVE AN INCOME FOR
7/30/09 11:21:21 THEIR FAMILIES.
7/30/09 11:21:24 THAT WAS STATED AS PEOPLE CAME
7/30/09 11:21:25 FORTH THIS MORNING SO WITH THAT
7/30/09 11:21:28 I'M GOING TO MOVE THE OPTION 2
7/30/09 11:21:28 OF THE ORDINANCE.
7/30/09 11:21:31 >> WE HAVE A MOTION, A
7/30/09 11:21:32 SECOND,
7/30/09 11:21:33 TO MOVE THE ITEM.
7/30/09 11:21:34 >> QUESTIONS.
7/30/09 11:21:35 >> I THINK THE APPROPRIATE
7/30/09 11:21:37 MOTION WOULD BE TO DIRECT LEGAL
7/30/09 11:21:40 TO TAKE OPTION 2 AND PUT IT IN
7/30/09 11:21:41 AN ORDINANCE FOR COUNCIL'S
7/30/09 11:21:43 CONSIDERATION AT A FUTURE DATE.
7/30/09 11:21:45 WE DIDN'T PRESENT IT AS AN
7/30/09 11:21:45 ORDINANCE.
7/30/09 11:21:45 >> YES.
7/30/09 11:21:47 THE MOTION WILL INCLUDE THAT,
7/30/09 11:21:47 YES.
7/30/09 11:21:50 THE MOTION WILL INCLUDE --
7/30/09 11:21:53 >> ON THE MOTION,
7/30/09 11:21:56 ITEM NUMBER 3
7/30/09 11:21:56 SAYS PERSONS MAY ENGAGE
7/30/09 11:21:58 SOLICITATION UP TO THE POINT
7/30/09 11:22:00 WHEN THE TRAFFIC STARTS MOVING.
7/30/09 11:22:01 SO IF YOU'VE GOT A GUY THAT'S
7/30/09 11:22:03 OUT IN FOUR OR FIVE LANES SO HE
7/30/09 11:22:05 IS GOING TO HAVE TO RUN TO GET
7/30/09 11:22:06 TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD BECAUSE
7/30/09 11:22:08 HE IS GOING TO GET HIT IF HE
7/30/09 11:22:10 STAYS OUT THERE, I THINK THAT
7/30/09 11:22:12 HAS TO BE MODIFIED TO SOME
7/30/09 11:22:12 DEGREE.
7/30/09 11:22:14 I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO IT
7/30/09 11:22:16 BUT MAYBE LEGAL CAN DO THAT BY
7/30/09 11:22:18 THE NEXT TIME IT COMES BACK TO
7/30/09 11:22:18 YOU.
7/30/09 11:22:21 >> LET LEGAL TAKE A LOOK
7/30/09 11:22:23 AT
7/30/09 11:22:23 THAT.
7/30/09 11:22:23 >> YOUR MOTION.
7/30/09 11:22:24 >> WE ASKED LOCAL TO TAKE A
7/30/09 11:22:25 LOOK AT IT.
7/30/09 11:22:27 THEY HAVE GOT TO BRING THE
7/30/09 11:22:28 ORDINANCE BACK SO THEY CAN TAKE
7/30/09 11:22:30 A LOOK AT IT.
7/30/09 11:22:33 >> I WILL SAY THE INTENT IS
7/30/09 11:22:34 THAT THE INDIVIDUAL SOLICITING
7/30/09 11:22:37 BE OUT OF THE ROADWAY PRIOR TO
7/30/09 11:22:38 THE VEHICLES MOVING SO IF WE
7/30/09 11:22:41 NEED TO MAKE THAT MORE CLEAR WE
7/30/09 11:22:44 WILL DO THAT.
7/30/09 11:22:44 >> YES.
7/30/09 11:22:44 MS. KERR?
7/30/09 11:22:47 >> I HOPE YOUR
7/30/09 11:22:48 FOOT GETS
7/30/09 11:22:49 BETTER.
7/30/09 11:22:49 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 11:22:52 >> NO MORE THAN 14 CALENDAR
7/30/09 11:22:55 DAYS SOMEONE HAS TO APPLY FOR A
7/30/09 11:22:55 TRIBUTE.
7/30/09 11:22:56 APPLYING FOR 25 PERMITS.
7/30/09 11:22:58 DO WE NEED THE NAMES OF THOSE
7/30/09 11:23:01 PEOPLE OR CAN THEY BE 25
7/30/09 11:23:01 PERMITS WITHOUT NAMES SH.
7/30/09 11:23:03 >> THE MOTION THAT IS CURRENTLY
7/30/09 11:23:06 ON THE FLOOR WAS FOR OPTION 2
7/30/09 11:23:09 WHICH DID NOT
7/30/09 11:23:12 REQUIRE THE PRIOR
7/30/09 11:23:12 NOTIFICATION.
7/30/09 11:23:13 >> EACH INDIVIDUAL SOLICITOR,
7/30/09 11:23:16 PERSON PLANNING ON
7/30/09 11:23:18 BEING OUTS
7/30/09 11:23:20 THERE SOLICITING WOULD PROVIDE
7/30/09 11:23:21 THE ADDRESS.
7/30/09 11:23:23 >> I UNDERSTAND.
7/30/09 11:23:25 THAT'S OPTION 1.
7/30/09 11:23:28 >> IS THAT COMPULSORY RIGHT
7/30/09 11:23:28 NOW?
7/30/09 11:23:30 WHERE DID YOU GET THIS FROM?
7/30/09 11:23:33 >> IT TRACKS LANGUAGE THAT'S
7/30/09 11:23:34 IN
7/30/09 11:23:34 THE STATUTE.
7/30/09 11:23:37 >> YOU NEED
7/30/09 11:23:40 THE ADDRESS.
7/30/09 11:23:41 THEY GET 25 PERMITS AND THEY
7/30/09 11:23:44 WOULD SIGN A PERMIT TO A
7/30/09 11:23:45 CERTAIN SPECIFIC PERSON.
7/30/09 11:23:47 >> THAT'S NOT WHAT IS --THAT'S
7/30/09 11:23:50 NOT WHAT IS IN OPTION 1 OR
7/30/09 11:23:51 2.
7/30/09 11:23:53 >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.
7/30/09 11:23:56 >> IF I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY THAT
7/30/09 11:23:58 IS POTENTIALLY SOMETHING WE
7/30/09 11:23:59 COULD DO.
7/30/09 11:24:00 I SHOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT I
7/30/09 11:24:02 DON'T THINK YOU CAN PICK AND
7/30/09 11:24:04 CHOOSE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE
7/30/09 11:24:05 GOING TO BE HOW MANY PERMITS.
7/30/09 11:24:08 >> IT
7/30/09 11:24:09 IS NOT DISCRETIONARY.
7/30/09 11:24:09 >> RIGHT.
7/30/09 11:24:11 THEY WOULD ASK HOW MANY THEY
7/30/09 11:24:11 WANT.
7/30/09 11:24:14 IF THEY WANT 50 OR 75 WE WOULD
7/30/09 11:24:16 ISSUE THEM 75 PERMITS BUT 14
7/30/09 11:24:18 DAYS IS NOT ENOUGH TIME.
7/30/09 11:24:19 A GUY MAY QUIT TODAY AND THEY
7/30/09 11:24:20 WANT TO REPLACE SOMEBODY ELSE
7/30/09 11:24:23 AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO
7/30/09 11:24:28 HAVE
7/30/09 11:24:28 ANYBODY THERE.
7/30/09 11:24:31 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T QUITE
7/30/09 11:24:33 UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE
7/30/09 11:24:34 CONVERSATIONS STATED HERE TODAY
7/30/09 11:24:36 BUT I CAN TELL YOU FROM ME,
7/30/09 11:24:38 FIRST OF ALL, WHO IS GOING TO
7/30/09 11:24:40 ENFORCE THIS.
7/30/09 11:24:43 LET
7/30/09 11:24:46 ME TURN AROUND.
7/30/09 11:24:49 >> THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO
7/30/09 11:24:49 THAT.
7/30/09 11:24:51 THEY ARE GOING TO A CALL AND
7/30/09 11:24:53 THEY ARE HAVING ENOUGH
7/30/09 11:24:56 PROBLEMS, ENOUGH ITEMS ON
7/30/09 11:24:57 THEIR
7/30/09 11:24:59 PLATE TO FULFILL THEIR DUTIES
7/30/09 11:25:01 AS AN OFFICER OF THE LAW.
7/30/09 11:25:03 I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED TO WRITE
7/30/09 11:25:04 AN ORDINANCE AGAINST THOSE
7/30/09 11:25:07 INDIVIDUALS THAT CUT THE GRASS
7/30/09 11:25:08 AND BLOW CLIPPINGS OFF TO THE
7/30/09 11:25:11 SIDE OF THE ROAD BUT THEN
7/30/09 11:25:11 I
7/30/09 11:25:14 TELL MYSELF, OKAY, I WRITE AN
7/30/09 11:25:14 ORDINANCE.
7/30/09 11:25:15 WHO IS GOING TO ENFORCE IT?
7/30/09 11:25:17 DO I THINK THE POLICE?
7/30/09 11:25:17 NO.
7/30/09 11:25:20 SO I'M TELLING MYSELF I WANT TO
7/30/09 11:25:23 WRITE IT BUT I'M RESTRAINING
7/30/09 11:25:25 MYSELF FROM WRITING EVEN THOUGH
7/30/09 11:25:27 I DON'T WANT TO WRITE IT.
7/30/09 11:25:29 I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO HAVE TO
7/30/09 11:25:30 HAVE 14 DAYS OF ME NOTIFYING
7/30/09 11:25:32 WHO IT IS AND WHO IS NOT.
7/30/09 11:25:35 I'M NOT AN EMPLOYMENT AGENCY.
7/30/09 11:25:38 I'M NOT HERE TO
7/30/09 11:25:40 CERTIFY TO
7/30/09 11:25:43 CHECK ON BACKGROUNDS, THAT'S
7/30/09 11:25:44 SOMEBODY ELSE'S RESPONSIBILITY.
7/30/09 11:25:45 WHAT I'M SAYING AND I
7/30/09 11:25:46 UNDERSTAND WHERE IT IS COMING
7/30/09 11:25:47 FROM AND I UNDERSTAND THAT
7/30/09 11:25:49 THERE IS A NEED FOR SOMETHING
7/30/09 11:25:52 TO BE DONE BUT AT TODAY'S VENUE
7/30/09 11:25:55 I CANNOT --I DON'T CARE WHAT
7/30/09 11:25:56 THE TIME DOES, I DON'T CARE
7/30/09 11:25:58 WHAT THE TRIBUNE DOES THAT'S
7/30/09 11:26:01 THEIR PROBLEM TO
7/30/09 11:26:04 DO
7/30/09 11:26:07 IT RIGHT.
7/30/09 11:26:07 NOT MINE.
7/30/09 11:26:10 I KNOW THERE WAS OTHER SMALL
7/30/09 11:26:10 ONES.
7/30/09 11:26:12 SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT'S
7/30/09 11:26:13 THEIR PROBLEM TO HANDLE THEIR
7/30/09 11:26:13 SITUATION.
7/30/09 11:26:15 IT WAS STATED EARLIER BY AN
7/30/09 11:26:16 INDIVIDUAL HERE AND A GENTLEMAN
7/30/09 11:26:19 CAME UP AND SAID SOMEONE
7/30/09 11:26:20 GOT
7/30/09 11:26:20 HIT.
7/30/09 11:26:21 ONE OF US.
7/30/09 11:26:22 THERE WAS NO --FROM WHAT I
7/30/09 11:26:24 REMEMBERED --THERE WAS NO COST
7/30/09 11:26:25 TO THE TAXPAYERS TO SEND THAT
7/30/09 11:26:26 INDIVIDUAL TO THE HOSPITAL
7/30/09 11:26:28 BECAUSE IT WAS COVERED BY THE
7/30/09 11:26:29 COMPANY INSURANCE.
7/30/09 11:26:32 I BELIEVE THAT'S
7/30/09 11:26:33 WHAT I HEARD.
7/30/09 11:26:34 WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED IF THAT
7/30/09 11:26:36 IS FINE AND WHEN I STATE IT ON
7/30/09 11:26:37 THE RECORD I BELIEVE IT?
7/30/09 11:26:40 SO WHAT I'M SAYING
7/30/09 11:26:43 IS
7/30/09 11:26:44 LET'S GET
7/30/09 11:26:46 PAST THIS AND CONTINUE TO SHARE
7/30/09 11:26:47 THE RESPONSIBILITY.
7/30/09 11:26:48 LET'S GIVE THE INDIVIDUALS THE
7/30/09 11:26:51 RIGHT TO CONTINUE TO MAKE SOME
7/30/09 11:26:51 FORM OF INCOME.
7/30/09 11:26:54 AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HARD
7/30/09 11:26:55 TIMES.
7/30/09 11:26:58 THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON
7/30/09 11:27:01 IN MIAMI
7/30/09 11:27:02 AND FORT LAUDERDALE.
7/30/09 11:27:02 FOR YEARS.
7/30/09 11:27:05 FOR 20 OR 30 YEARS THEY HAVE
7/30/09 11:27:06 BEEN DELIVERING OUT THERE.
7/30/09 11:27:08 I SAW THEM ALL THE TIME WHEN I
7/30/09 11:27:09 USED TO BE IN HORSE RACING AND
7/30/09 11:27:12 THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT TO ME
7/30/09 11:27:15 THEY DON'T HURT SOCIETY.
7/30/09 11:27:16 THAT'S HOW I FEEL.
7/30/09 11:27:19 >> WE HAVE A MOTION
7/30/09 11:27:22 ON THE
7/30/09 11:27:22 FLOOR.
7/30/09 11:27:23 NUMBER 2 ON THIS.
7/30/09 11:27:26 ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION
7/30/09 11:27:29 SAY
7/30/09 11:27:32 AYE.
7/30/09 11:27:32 >> AYE.
7/30/09 11:27:35 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 11:27:41 >> ITEM 59.
7/30/09 11:27:47 SNOOP ITEM 59 HAS TO
7/30/09 11:27:49 DO WITH
7/30/09 11:27:52 CODE ENFORCEMENT TO PROVIDE
7/30/09 11:27:54 A
7/30/09 11:27:57 REPORT
7/30/09 11:28:00 REGARDING THE
7/30/09 11:28:01 --
7/30/09 11:28:04 >> MR.
7/30/09 11:28:05 CHAIRMAN.
7/30/09 11:28:07 >> ITEM 59.
7/30/09 11:28:07 TRANSITIONED OVER.
7/30/09 11:28:10 WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING
7/30/09 11:28:12 ON
7/30/09 11:28:15 JUST AN UPDATE ON --I THINK WE
7/30/09 11:28:17 TALKED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT AN
7/30/09 11:28:17 ADMINISTRATIVE INSPECTION
7/30/09 11:28:20 WARRANT WHERE WE WOULD BE ABLE
7/30/09 11:28:23 TO GET ACCESS TO
7/30/09 11:28:24 VACANT
7/30/09 11:28:25 BUILDINGS, HISTORY BUILDINGS
7/30/09 11:28:28 FOR PURPOSES OF INSPECTING
7/30/09 11:28:28 THEIR CONDITIONS.
7/30/09 11:28:30 WE HAVE LOOK THOROUGHLY AT THAT
7/30/09 11:28:33 STATUTE AND WE DO HAVE A
7/30/09 11:28:37 PROCESS IN PLACE NOW AT THE
7/30/09 11:28:38 CIRCUIT COURT WHICH WORKS VERY
7/30/09 11:28:39 MUCH LIKE A SEARCH WARRANT
7/30/09 11:28:41 PROCESS WHERE WILL IS A SWORN
7/30/09 11:28:44 AFFIDAVIT, IT HAS TO MEET
7/30/09 11:28:47 CERTAIN
7/30/09 11:28:48 STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS
7/30/09 11:28:49 AND IF THE JUDGE BELIEVES THOSE
7/30/09 11:28:50 STANDARDS ARE MET, THE JUDGE
7/30/09 11:28:52 WILL ISSUE THE WARRANT AND THAT
7/30/09 11:28:55 ALLOWS TO GO
7/30/09 11:28:58 INTO
7/30/09 11:28:59 THE PROPERTY.
7/30/09 11:29:00 TYPICALLY, ABSENT
7/30/09 11:29:01 CIRCUMSTANCES, THE STATUTE
7/30/09 11:29:04 PROVIDES THAT THE ACCESS WILL
7/30/09 11:29:06 NOT ALLOW FORCED ENTRY INTO A
7/30/09 11:29:07 BUILDING SO IT ENCOURAGES
7/30/09 11:29:09 WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY
7/30/09 11:29:09 OWNER.
7/30/09 11:29:10 REQUIRES AT LEAST CONTACTING
7/30/09 11:29:13 THE PROPERTY OWNER INITIALLY TO
7/30/09 11:29:15 SEEK CONSENT AND THAT ABSENT
7/30/09 11:29:16 SOME CIRCUMSTANCE OR SOME OTHER
7/30/09 11:29:18 SPECIAL CONDITION WE WOULD NOT
7/30/09 11:29:19 HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO FORCE
7/30/09 11:29:21 THEIR WAY INTO THE BUILDING.
7/30/09 11:29:23 IT ALSO SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDES
7/30/09 11:29:26 TAKING ACTION IN THE BUILDING
7/30/09 11:29:27 SUCH AS PHYSICALLY FIXING THE
7/30/09 11:29:29 BUILDING, CHANGING THINGS IN
7/30/09 11:29:32 THE BUILDING OR TAKING OTHER
7/30/09 11:29:32 ACTION.
7/30/09 11:29:35 SO THAT KIND OF THE CONCEPT OF
7/30/09 11:29:36 GOING IN AND ABATING A PROBLEM
7/30/09 11:29:39 IN THE STRUCTURE WOULD NOT BE
7/30/09 11:29:40 PERMISSIBLE UNDER THAT STATUTE.
7/30/09 11:29:43 BUT WE CAN GO IN AN INSPECT,
7/30/09 11:29:44 GATHER THE INFORMATION
7/30/09 11:29:46 NECESSARY FOR AN ENFORCEMENT
7/30/09 11:29:47 ACTION THEN INITIATE AN
7/30/09 11:29:50 ENFORCEMENT ACTION BASED
7/30/09 11:29:51 ON
7/30/09 11:29:52 THAT INSPECTION.
7/30/09 11:29:52 >> YES?
7/30/09 11:29:55 >> HAVE WE --YOU'VE COMPLETED
7/30/09 11:29:56 YOUR RESEARCH ON THIS.
7/30/09 11:29:59 HAVE YES EVER USED THIS
7/30/09 11:29:59 ABILITY?
7/30/09 11:30:02 >> NOT TO DATE THAT
7/30/09 11:30:02 I'M AWARE
7/30/09 11:30:03 OF.
7/30/09 11:30:04 IT IS NOT WIDELY USED.
7/30/09 11:30:05 IT HAS BEEN AVAILABLE FOR SOME
7/30/09 11:30:08 TIME AND I BELIEVE WE USED IT
7/30/09 11:30:11 IN OTHER ABANDONED BUILDING
7/30/09 11:30:13 CONTEXT BUT NOT FOR HISTORIC
7/30/09 11:30:15 STRUCTURES THAT I'M AWARE OF.
7/30/09 11:30:17 >> MR. FLETCHER, LET ME BE
7/30/09 11:30:17 CANDID.
7/30/09 11:30:20 MY CONCERN IS THAT THE CITY HAS
7/30/09 11:30:23 BEEN TOOTHLESS IN
7/30/09 11:30:23 OUR
7/30/09 11:30:23 ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS.
7/30/09 11:30:26 WE GO OUT TO PEOPLE,
7/30/09 11:30:29 WE
7/30/09 11:30:30 FIND
7/30/09 11:30:31 THEM, WE WAG OUR FINGERS.
7/30/09 11:30:34 I REALLY WANT YOU TO COME BACK
7/30/09 11:30:37 TO US WITH METHODS THAT WILL BE
7/30/09 11:30:37 MORE EFFECTIVE.
7/30/09 11:30:39 I HAD HOPED THIS WOULD BE ONE.
7/30/09 11:30:41 IF THIS DOESN'T GIVE US THE
7/30/09 11:30:43 CLOUT WE NEED MAYBE YOU HAVE
7/30/09 11:30:43 SOMETHING TO SUGGEST.
7/30/09 11:30:45 >> WE DO HAVE AN ITEM PENDING
7/30/09 11:30:47 WITH YOU ALL THAT WE BELIEVE IS
7/30/09 11:30:48 THE NECK TOOL THAT YOU WOULD
7/30/09 11:30:50 LIKE TO USE IN THIS CONTEXT AND
7/30/09 11:30:53 THAT IS THE CIVIL CITATION
7/30/09 11:30:53 PROCESS.
7/30/09 11:30:53 >> GREAT.
7/30/09 11:30:54 >> THAT'S IN SEPTEMBER?
7/30/09 11:30:55 >> IT'S BEEN BEFORE YOU AND
7/30/09 11:30:58 CONTINUING QUITE A FEW TIMES
7/30/09 11:30:58 NOW BY COUNCIL.
7/30/09 11:30:59 >> RIGHT.
7/30/09 11:31:01 >> AND THAT HAS A METHOD WHERE
7/30/09 11:31:03 WE CAN ISSUE A CITATION.
7/30/09 11:31:06 IF IT IS NOT CURED AND HAS
7/30/09 11:31:09 CERTAIN AMOUNTS AND
7/30/09 11:31:09 OTHER
7/30/09 11:31:10 STRUCTURES INVOLVED IT CAN GO
7/30/09 11:31:12 BEFORE A JUDGE AND THE JUDGE
7/30/09 11:31:13 HAS JURISDICTION TO ENSURE THAT
7/30/09 11:31:16 THOSE CHANGES ARE MADE OR TAKE
7/30/09 11:31:17 OTHER JUDICIAL ACTION.
7/30/09 11:31:20 SO THAT WE BELIEVE IS
7/30/09 11:31:21 THE NEXT
7/30/09 11:31:23 STEP AND WE HAVE SOME INSTANCES
7/30/09 11:31:24 WHERE WE THINK USE OF THAT IS
7/30/09 11:31:26 APPROPRIATE AND WE ARE ACTUALLY
7/30/09 11:31:29 TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
7/30/09 11:31:34 A WAY TO
7/30/09 11:31:35 HAVE THAT AUTHORITY.
7/30/09 11:31:38 IF IT IS COMING BACK TO YOU AT
7/30/09 11:31:41 THE
7/30/09 11:31:42 COUNCIL MEETING.
7/30/09 11:31:43 AN EXTENSION.
7/30/09 11:31:44 DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT.
7/30/09 11:31:45 OTHER HISTORY STRUCTURES IN
7/30/09 11:31:47 ADDITION TO THOSE THINGS THAT
7/30/09 11:31:50 WOULD APPLY TO ANY VACANT
7/30/09 11:31:51 BUILDING.
7/30/09 11:31:54 >>
7/30/09 11:31:56 THAT'S EXCELLENT.
7/30/09 11:31:59 THANK
7/30/09 11:32:00 YOU.
7/30/09 11:32:01 >> ITEM 60.
7/30/09 11:32:04 THE ISSUE RAISED
7/30/09 11:32:07 BY SUSAN
7/30/09 11:32:07 LONG
7/30/09 11:32:08 REGARDING THE SEMINOLE HIGH
7/30/09 11:32:09 CENTER.
7/30/09 11:32:10 WE HAVE HAD SOME INFORMATION
7/30/09 11:32:10 ALREADY THIS MORNING.
7/30/09 11:32:11 >> GOOD MORNING.
7/30/09 11:32:12 THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY
7/30/09 11:32:14 TO SPEAK TO YOU.
7/30/09 11:32:16 >> EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF
7/30/09 11:32:17 I MAY.
7/30/09 11:32:20 I WAS PASSING UP TO THE COUNCIL
7/30/09 11:32:21 MEMBERS THIS POSTER.
7/30/09 11:32:24 THAT
7/30/09 11:32:27 WE
7/30/09 11:32:30 HAVE AN ARCT
7/30/09 11:32:37 --
7/30/09 11:32:37 ARCHITECTURAL.
7/30/09 11:32:40 >> DAVID
7/30/09 11:32:40 VAUGHN.
7/30/09 11:32:41 YOU HAVE INVITED ME, ASKED ME
7/30/09 11:32:43 TO COME HERE TODAY TO REPORT TO
7/30/09 11:32:46 YOU ON THE SYSTEM
7/30/09 11:32:48 FOR THE
7/30/09 11:32:48 SEMINOLE GARDENS CENTER.
7/30/09 11:32:50 BASED ON THE COMMENTS YOU HAVE
7/30/09 11:32:52 HEARD THIS MORNING RELATED TO
7/30/09 11:32:53 VARIOUS PRESERVATION ASPECTS OF
7/30/09 11:32:55 THIS PROJECT, I AM PREPARED TO
7/30/09 11:32:56 ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE DIRECTLY
7/30/09 11:32:59 AND I HOPE THAT I WILL HAVE AN
7/30/09 11:33:00 OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.
7/30/09 11:33:01 AND WE CAN LAY ALL OF THIS
7/30/09 11:33:02 STUFF ON THE TABLE AND DEAL
7/30/09 11:33:03 WITH IT THIS MORNING.
7/30/09 11:33:06 I WOULD LIKE FIRST, THOUGH, TO
7/30/09 11:33:09 DEAL SPECIFICALLY
7/30/09 11:33:10 WITH THE
7/30/09 11:33:11 SYSTEM.
7/30/09 11:33:13 I HAVE SOME THINGS TO SHARE
7/30/09 11:33:14 WITH YOU THEN TAKE QUESTIONS.
7/30/09 11:33:16 I WANT TO CUT TO THE CHASE
7/30/09 11:33:19 BECAUSE IT IS A FAIRLY SIMPLE
7/30/09 11:33:20 ARGUMENT AND DISCUSSION THIS
7/30/09 11:33:20 MORNING.
7/30/09 11:33:23 IT IS THAT THE HBHC
7/30/09 11:33:29 SYSTEM
7/30/09 11:33:32 FOR
7/30/09 11:33:35 THE SEMINOLE
7/30/09 11:33:37 GARDEN CENTER.
7/30/09 11:33:38 A VARIETY OF COOLING SYSTEMS
7/30/09 11:33:41 THAT WILL OCCUR IN THE CENTER.
7/30/09 11:33:44 THIS PROJECT HAS
7/30/09 11:33:44 BEEN BID,
7/30/09 11:33:46 AWARD, PERMITS EXPLAINED AND
7/30/09 11:33:47 CONSTRUCTION IS UNDERWAY AN
7/30/09 11:33:49 COMPLETION EXPECTED IN FEBRUARY
7/30/09 11:33:50 OF 2010.
7/30/09 11:33:53 IT IS A WONSERFUL PROJECT.
7/30/09 11:33:54 THE ENGINEER'S CALCULATIONS
7/30/09 11:33:56 WHICH UTILIZE CODE REQUIRED
7/30/09 11:33:59 MINIMUMS AND APPLY APPROPRIATE
7/30/09 11:34:01 BUSINESS LEADER MAXIMUM COOLING
7/30/09 11:34:02 LOAD OF 26 TONS.
7/30/09 11:34:03 THIS IS BASED ON AN OCCUPANT
7/30/09 11:34:06 LOAD FOR THE MECHANICAL CODE
7/30/09 11:34:09 THAT BASES THOSE CALCULATIONS
7/30/09 11:34:11 ON 210 PEOPLE.
7/30/09 11:34:12 THERE IS A DIFFERENT FORMULA
7/30/09 11:34:13 FOR HOW MANY FOLKS YOU CAN PUT
7/30/09 11:34:16 IN THE BUILDING SO WE WILL
7/30/09 11:34:17 SEE
7/30/09 11:34:19 ACTUAL MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY
7/30/09 11:34:21 CONTENT OF APPROXIMATELY 250
7/30/09 11:34:21 PEOPLE.
7/30/09 11:34:22 YOU PLUG THOSE NUMBERS INTO THE
7/30/09 11:34:24 CALCULATIONS AND YOU'RE DEALING
7/30/09 11:34:26 WITH 30 TONS OF AIR-
7/30/09 11:34:26 CONDITIONING.
7/30/09 11:34:28 YOU HAVE HEARD AND BEEN
7/30/09 11:34:29 PRESENTED MATERIAL THAT HAS
7/30/09 11:34:32 RANGED FROM 19 AND THEN 18
7/30/09 11:34:33 AND
7/30/09 11:34:34 THEN 15-TONS.
7/30/09 11:34:36 NO ONE HAS PRESENTED TO YOU
7/30/09 11:34:36 INFORMATION THAT SUBSTANTIATES
7/30/09 11:34:39 HOW THEY CAME UP WITH
7/30/09 11:34:40 THAT
7/30/09 11:34:40 NUMBER.
7/30/09 11:34:41 >> YOU RECEIVED INFORMATION
7/30/09 11:34:43 THIS MORNING THAT SUGGESTED AN
7/30/09 11:34:45 ENGINEER HAD REVIEWED OUR
7/30/09 11:34:47 ENGINEER'S CALCULATIONS AND HAS
7/30/09 11:34:48 AN OPINION THAT THE COOLING IS
7/30/09 11:34:48 TOO MUCH.
7/30/09 11:34:50 I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT
7/30/09 11:34:51 CORRESPONDENCE BUT I CAN TELL
7/30/09 11:34:53 YOU THAT THE ONLY THING THAT HE
7/30/09 11:34:55 HAS REVIEWED IF HE HAS REVIEWED
7/30/09 11:34:57 ANYTHING IS THE PROJECT
7/30/09 11:35:00 DOCUMENTS AND ENERGY
7/30/09 11:35:01 CALCULATIONS ON FILE.
7/30/09 11:35:03 NO ONE WHO HAS ASSERTED TO YOU
7/30/09 11:35:06 THAT WE HAVE TOO MUCH COOLING
7/30/09 11:35:09 HAS EXAMINED THE ENGINEER
7/30/09 11:35:12 OF
7/30/09 11:35:14 RECORDS, LOAD CALCULATION.
7/30/09 11:35:17 AGAIN THE ENGINEER IS PRESENT
7/30/09 11:35:18 HERE TODAY.
7/30/09 11:35:20 THERE IS A FENCE IN WHICH HIS
7/30/09 11:35:21 REAR IS IN A SLING.
7/30/09 11:35:22 HE IS STANDING BY THESE
7/30/09 11:35:23 CALCULATIONS.
7/30/09 11:35:24 WE BELIEVE THEY ARE RIGHT AND
7/30/09 11:35:25 THAT THEY ARE APPROPRIATE FOR
7/30/09 11:35:27 THIS CENTER AND THE WAY THAT IS
7/30/09 11:35:28 GOING TO BE USED.
7/30/09 11:35:30 >> MAXIMUM COOLING IS ONLY ONE
7/30/09 11:35:33 ASPECT OF THIS ISSUE THOUGH OR
7/30/09 11:35:36 THE SYSTEM
7/30/09 11:35:39 DESIGN.
7/30/09 11:35:42 UP TO THE MAXIMUM CONTENT OF
7/30/09 11:35:43 250 PEOPLE.
7/30/09 11:35:46 THE SYSTEM THAT PUT IN MUST
7/30/09 11:35:47 ADEQUATELY ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES
7/30/09 11:35:49 AND IN FACT THAT HAS BEEN ONE
7/30/09 11:35:51 OF THE DRIVING CRITERIA BEHIND
7/30/09 11:35:52 THE SYSTEM SELECTION FOR THIS
7/30/09 11:35:53 BUILDING.
7/30/09 11:35:54 CONTRARY TO WHAT YOU HEARD THIS
7/30/09 11:35:56 MORNING WE DID NOT DIRECT OUR
7/30/09 11:35:58 ENGINEER THAT HE HAD TO PROVIDE
7/30/09 11:35:58 THIS SYSTEM.
7/30/09 11:36:01 IT WAS THE RESULT OF OUR
7/30/09 11:36:03 DISCUSSIONS BOTH WITH THE
7/30/09 11:36:04 NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP WITH THE
7/30/09 11:36:05 PARKS DEPARTMENT ON HOW THIS
7/30/09 11:36:07 CENTER IS GOING TO BE USED IN
7/30/09 11:36:09 DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR ENGINEERS
7/30/09 11:36:11 ABOUT THE BEST WAY TO
7/30/09 11:36:11 ACCOMPLISH THAT.
7/30/09 11:36:13 THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE
7/30/09 11:36:15 BEEN PRESENTED ON AN ALTERNATE
7/30/09 11:36:18 SYSTEM REALLY DOESN'T SAY WHAT
7/30/09 11:36:18 IT IS.
7/30/09 11:36:21 IT APPEARS TO BE BASED ON
7/30/09 11:36:22 DX
7/30/09 11:36:22 TYPE EQUIPMENT.
7/30/09 11:36:24 BUT IT DOESN'T SAY HOW THEY ARE
7/30/09 11:36:25 GOING TO DO IT.
7/30/09 11:36:27 IT LITERALLY COULD BE ANYTHING
7/30/09 11:36:30 FROM A SINGLE DX UNIT TO A
7/30/09 11:36:33 NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL TYPE AIR
7/30/09 11:36:34 HANDLERS STUFFED UP IN THE
7/30/09 11:36:36 CEILING OF THE CENTER.
7/30/09 11:36:37 NEITHER ARE APPROPRIATE
7/30/09 11:36:40 SOLUTIONS FOR THIS PROJECT.
7/30/09 11:36:42 DX SYSTEMS ARE AN APPROPRIATE
7/30/09 11:36:43 BUDGET BASED SELECTION WHEN YOU
7/30/09 11:36:45 HAVE A FACILITY THAT IS GOING
7/30/09 11:36:48 TO HAVE A RELATIVELY CONSTANT
7/30/09 11:36:49 LOAD.
7/30/09 11:36:51 OUR OWN CITY EXPERIENCED WITH
7/30/09 11:36:53 FACILITIES THAT HAVE DX
7/30/09 11:36:55 EQUIPMENT THAT THEY ARE
7/30/09 11:36:55 PROBLEMATIC IN SYSTEMS WHERE
7/30/09 11:36:57 YOU HAVE A CHANGE IN THE LOAD.
7/30/09 11:36:59 IN PARTICULAR LOW LOAD
7/30/09 11:37:00 SITUATIONS CREATE POTENTIAL FOR
7/30/09 11:37:03 THE SYSTEM TO PROVIDE TOO MUCH
7/30/09 11:37:05 COOLING AND LOCK UP.
7/30/09 11:37:06 IN HIGH LOAD CONDITIONS
7/30/09 11:37:08 PARTICULARLY ON DAYS WHEN THE
7/30/09 11:37:10 OUTSIDE TEMPERATURE IS
7/30/09 11:37:12 RELATIVELY LOW DX SYSTEMS ARE
7/30/09 11:37:13 NOTORIOUSLY BAD FOR DEALING
7/30/09 11:37:15 WITH HUMIDITY CONDITIONS AND SO
7/30/09 11:37:17 YOU HAVE THE IRONY THAT THE
7/30/09 11:37:18 SUBSTITUTION OF THE SYSTEM THAT
7/30/09 11:37:21 HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO ADDRESS
7/30/09 11:37:21 THESE CONDITIONS WITH ANOTHER
7/30/09 11:37:24 SYSTEM IS ACTUALLY GOING TO
7/30/09 11:37:25 PRODUCE, HAS THE POTENTIAL TO
7/30/09 11:37:26 PRODUCE THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE
7/30/09 11:37:28 ASSERTED ARE GOING TO BE SEEN
7/30/09 11:37:30 WITH THIS ONE.
7/30/09 11:37:31 >> SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE
7/30/09 11:37:34 INDUSTRY RECOGNIZED OVER THE
7/30/09 11:37:35 LAST FEW YEARS THE PROBLEM WITH
7/30/09 11:37:37 DX SYSTEMS AND THE FACT THAT
7/30/09 11:37:39 THERE ARE CHILLERS OF THE SIZE
7/30/09 11:37:41 AVAILABLE FOR THIS PROJECT IS A
7/30/09 11:37:44 REACTION BY THE MARKET AND
7/30/09 11:37:46 VIRTUALLY EVERY MANUFACTURER OF
7/30/09 11:37:47 EQUIPMENT PROVIDES CHILLERS IN
7/30/09 11:37:48 THIS SIZE RANGE NOW BECAUSE OF
7/30/09 11:37:50 THE VERY PROBLEMS THAT I'VE
7/30/09 11:37:52 JUST TALKED TO YOU.
7/30/09 11:37:55 WE HAVE OLDER CITY FACILITIES
7/30/09 11:37:58 THAT HAVE DX EQUIPMENT THAT WE
7/30/09 11:37:59 HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH IF
7/30/09 11:38:00 THE LOAD CHANGES.
7/30/09 11:38:01 WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH
7/30/09 11:38:04 JUST IN TERMS OF MAINTAINING
7/30/09 11:38:07 THE RIGHT LOADS AND DEALING
7/30/09 11:38:08 WITH MOISTURE CONDITIONS.
7/30/09 11:38:11 WE HAVE
7/30/09 11:38:16 A WONDERFUL PROJECT.
7/30/09 11:38:19 I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY
7/30/09 11:38:20 QUESTIONS?
7/30/09 11:38:20 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 11:38:22 I'M JUST THINKING LIKE A
7/30/09 11:38:23 CRIMINALLOLOGIST AND THINKING
7/30/09 11:38:25 HOW DID THIS GET WHERE IT WAS
7/30/09 11:38:25 AT.
7/30/09 11:38:27 WHO DEPOSIT THIS TO WHERE THESE
7/30/09 11:38:28 NUMBERS CAME ABOUT?
7/30/09 11:38:30 IS THIS A CONTRACTOR WHO DIDN'T
7/30/09 11:38:30 GET A JOB?
7/30/09 11:38:32 IS THIS A CONTRACTOR WHO GOT
7/30/09 11:38:35 THE JOB, WHO DIDN'T BID IT
7/30/09 11:38:35 RIGHT?
7/30/09 11:38:37 I'M LOOKING FOR ANSWERS AS I
7/30/09 11:38:39 QUESTION MYSELF ABOUT THESE
7/30/09 11:38:39 ITEMS.
7/30/09 11:38:42 DO YOU HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF
7/30/09 11:38:44 ANY CONTRACTOR WHO MAY OR MAY
7/30/09 11:38:45 NOT BE QUALIFIED TO DO THIS?
7/30/09 11:38:47 >> YOU HEARD STATED HERE THIS
7/30/09 11:38:48 MORNING AND IT HAS BEEN
7/30/09 11:38:49 REPORTED IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT
7/30/09 11:38:52 THAT MATERIAL WAS PREPARED
7/30/09 11:38:52 BY
7/30/09 11:38:54 THE MECHANICAL SUBCONTRACTOR ON
7/30/09 11:38:54 THE SUBJECT.
7/30/09 11:38:55 THE DOCUMENT DOESN'T STATE
7/30/09 11:38:55 THAT.
7/30/09 11:38:58 I DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECT
7/30/09 11:38:59 KNOWLEDGE OF THAT.
7/30/09 11:39:02 BUT CERTAINLY IF THAT IS THE
7/30/09 11:39:03 CASE CONTRACTUALLY THAT CREATES
7/30/09 11:39:06 SOME DIFFICULTIES AS WELL.
7/30/09 11:39:08 DURING THE BID PHASE OF THIS
7/30/09 11:39:10 PROJECT WE GOT 18 BIDS.
7/30/09 11:39:13 WE HAD A PREBID MEETING.
7/30/09 11:39:15 DURING THE BID PHASE IT WAS
7/30/09 11:39:16 ATTENDED BY 49 PERSONS.
7/30/09 11:39:16 >> WOW.
7/30/09 11:39:19 >> AT NO TIME DURING THE BID
7/30/09 11:39:21 PHASE DID ANY BIDDERS, GENERAL
7/30/09 11:39:22 CONTRACTOR, SUBCONTRACTOR
7/30/09 11:39:25 EXPRESS ANY CONCERN WITH THE
7/30/09 11:39:27 DESIGNS OF THE SYSTEM.
7/30/09 11:39:29 AFTER THE OPENING OF THE BID WE
7/30/09 11:39:32 HAD A PREAWARD MEETING WITH
7/30/09 11:39:32 THE
7/30/09 11:39:32 GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
7/30/09 11:39:34 THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING WAS
7/30/09 11:39:35 BEFORE WE PULLED THE TRIGGER ON
7/30/09 11:39:37 THIS CONTRACT ARE YOU READY TO
7/30/09 11:39:38 GO FORWARD?
7/30/09 11:39:39 ARE YOU PREPARED TO CONSTRUCT
7/30/09 11:39:41 THIS PRODUCT IN THE WAY IT WAS
7/30/09 11:39:44 BID AND THE
7/30/09 11:39:46 ANSWER WAS
7/30/09 11:39:46 UNEQUIVOCALLY YES.
7/30/09 11:39:49 >> THANK YOU, MR. VAUGHN.
7/30/09 11:39:50 WE APPRECIATE THAT.
7/30/09 11:39:52 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME
7/30/09 11:39:54 OF THE PRESERVATION THINGS.
7/30/09 11:39:55 >> GO AHEAD.
7/30/09 11:39:58 >> AND WE CAN LIKEWISE I THINK
7/30/09 11:39:59 PUT THEM TO REST.
7/30/09 11:40:01 >> FIRST OF ALL, FROM THE
7/30/09 11:40:02 BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT THERE
7/30/09 11:40:05 HAS BEEN SOME CONCERN ABOUT MY
7/30/09 11:40:08 OFFICE'S ABILITY TO ADDRESS
7/30/09 11:40:09 PRESERVATION PROJECTS.
7/30/09 11:40:11 LET ME SHARE WITH YOU THAT THE
7/30/09 11:40:12 ARCHITECT FOR THIS PROJECT
7/30/09 11:40:15 JAMES JACKSON AND HIS STAFF
7/30/09 11:40:16 REPORT DIRECTLY TO ME.
7/30/09 11:40:18 MY MASTERS DEGREE FROM THE
7/30/09 11:40:21 UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA
7/30/09 11:40:23 IS IN
7/30/09 11:40:24 ARCHITECTURAL PRESERVATION.
7/30/09 11:40:27 I STUDIED UNDER BLAIR REEVES
7/30/09 11:40:30 WHO IS A PIONEER IN THE
7/30/09 11:40:32 AMERICAN PRESERVATION MOVEMENT.
7/30/09 11:40:35 I WORKED JOINTLY ONE ON ONE
7/30/09 11:40:36 ON
7/30/09 11:40:39 A
7/30/09 11:40:42 PROJECT WITH HERSCHELL
7/30/09 11:40:48 SHEPPARD.
7/30/09 11:40:50 IN THE TEN YEARS OF PRIVATE
7/30/09 11:40:51 PRACTICE BEFORE COMING TO THE
7/30/09 11:40:54 CITY I PARTICIPATED IN
7/30/09 11:40:55 PRESERVATION PROJECTS.
7/30/09 11:40:56 IN MY 22 YEARS WITH THE CITY
7/30/09 11:40:58 I'VE DONE A DOZEN OR MORE
7/30/09 11:40:59 PRESERVATION PROJECTS.
7/30/09 11:41:00 WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT.
7/30/09 11:41:03 I HOPE THIS PUTS IT TO
7/30/09 11:41:03 REST.
7/30/09 11:41:06 I HAVE NOT MET THE GENTLEMAN
7/30/09 11:41:07 WHO SPOKE TODAY AND GIVE HIM
7/30/09 11:41:09 THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT THAT
7/30/09 11:41:10 HE DID NOT REALIZE THIS
7/30/09 11:41:11 INFORMATION AND I HOPE THAT
7/30/09 11:41:14 THAT WILL PUT THAT TO
7/30/09 11:41:14 REST.
7/30/09 11:41:15 >> THE THREE THINGS
7/30/09 11:41:16 SPECIFICALLY THAT HE TALKED TO
7/30/09 11:41:19 YOU ABOUT, ONE WAS THE CHIMNEY
7/30/09 11:41:20 CAP.
7/30/09 11:41:22 THE CHIMNEY CAP SHOWN ON THE
7/30/09 11:41:24 DRAWING MATCHES THE CHIMNEY CAP
7/30/09 11:41:24 THAT'S THERE NOW.
7/30/09 11:41:26 IT IS THE ONLY INFORMATION WE
7/30/09 11:41:26 HAD.
7/30/09 11:41:27 IT WAS ON THE DRAWINGS WHEN IT
7/30/09 11:41:30 WAS PRESENTED TO THE ARC AND
7/30/09 11:41:32 THEY HAD NO COMMENT.
7/30/09 11:41:34 SINCE THE OPENING OF THE BID
7/30/09 11:41:36 THERE HAVE BEEN PHOTOGRAPHS
7/30/09 11:41:38 OBTAINED THAT SHOW A DIFFERENT
7/30/09 11:41:40 CONDITION THAT WILL BE CHEAPER
7/30/09 11:41:40 TO ACCOMPLISH.
7/30/09 11:41:43 WE HAVE NO PROBLEM DOING THAT.
7/30/09 11:41:46 SECOND ITEM HAD TO DO
7/30/09 11:41:46 WITH THE
7/30/09 11:41:47 WINDOWS.
7/30/09 11:41:47 THE WINDOW MANUFACTURER THAT
7/30/09 11:41:48 WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY
7/30/09 11:41:52 AND PRESENTED TO THE ARC WAS
7/30/09 11:41:54 NOT DICTATED BY EITHER THE ARC
7/30/09 11:41:57 OR COMMITTED TO BY THE CITY AS
7/30/09 11:41:58 THE REQUIRED MANUFACTURER OF
7/30/09 11:42:01 THE WINDOWS
7/30/09 11:42:03 FOR THIS PROJECT.
7/30/09 11:42:05 ON JULY 17th, 2008, MY STAFF
7/30/09 11:42:07 VISITED RON VILLA TO PRESENT TO
7/30/09 11:42:08 HIM INFORMATION THAT SHOWED
7/30/09 11:42:10 THAT THAT MANUFACTURER COULD
7/30/09 11:42:11 NOT PRODUCE THE PROFILE OF THE
7/30/09 11:42:14 WINDOWS THAT WERE NEEDED
7/30/09 11:42:16 FOR
7/30/09 11:42:17 THIS PROJECT.
7/30/09 11:42:19 HE GAVE US ANOTHER CONTACT OF
7/30/09 11:42:21 ANOTHER MANUFACTURER WHO COULD
7/30/09 11:42:23 AND IN FACT IS THE --ARE THE
7/30/09 11:42:25 WINDOWS THAT ARE GOING TO BE
7/30/09 11:42:27 USED ON THIS CENTER.
7/30/09 11:42:29 I WOULD SUGGEST ALSO THAT THE
7/30/09 11:42:31 FACT THAT THESE ARE IMPACT
7/30/09 11:42:32 RESISTANT WINDOWS ARE NOT
7/30/09 11:42:35 BECAUSE WE ARE AFRAID OF
7/30/09 11:42:35 VANDALISM.
7/30/09 11:42:36 THEY ARE BECAUSE CHAPTER 16 OF
7/30/09 11:42:39 THE BUILDING CODE REQUIRES
7/30/09 11:42:40 THAT
7/30/09 11:42:41 THIS FACILITY DEAL WITH WIND
7/30/09 11:42:44 BORN AIR DEBRIS THIS ONE OF
7/30/09 11:42:44 THREE WAYS.
7/30/09 11:42:46 EITHER WE NAIL UP PLYWOOD TO
7/30/09 11:42:48 THE WINDOWS EVERY TIME THERE IS
7/30/09 11:42:48 A STORM.
7/30/09 11:42:49 THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE.
7/30/09 11:42:50 WE PUT A HURRICANE SHUTTER ON
7/30/09 11:42:53 THE OUTSIDE OF THE
7/30/09 11:42:55 BUILDING
7/30/09 11:42:55 THAT COMPROMISES THE EXTERIOR
7/30/09 11:42:57 APPEARANCE OF THE BUILDING OR
7/30/09 11:42:59 WE MAKE THOSE WINDOWS IMPACT
7/30/09 11:42:59 RESISTANCE.
7/30/09 11:43:01 FURTHER, THE WINDOW THAT WAS
7/30/09 11:43:04 SHOWN AT THE
7/30/09 11:43:06 ARC HAD APPLIED
7/30/09 11:43:07 WHAT WE ARE USING IN THE
7/30/09 11:43:07 WINDOWS IN THIS.
7/30/09 11:43:09 WE ARE NOT MAKING A CHANGE, IF
7/30/09 11:43:11 ANYTHING WE HAVE COME UP WITH A
7/30/09 11:43:12 BETTER PRODUCT THAT BETTER
7/30/09 11:43:14 MATCHES THE ORIGINAL APPEARANCE
7/30/09 11:43:14 OF THE BUILDING.
7/30/09 11:43:16 FINALLY THE FLASHING ON THE
7/30/09 11:43:18 BUILDING, THE SPECIFICS SPEAK
7/30/09 11:43:19 TO ALUMINUM FLASHING THAT IS
7/30/09 11:43:22 RELATED TO THE WINDOWS.
7/30/09 11:43:24 THE WINDOWS ARE ALUMINUM.
7/30/09 11:43:26 YOU HAVE TO HAVE LIGHT METAL
7/30/09 11:43:27 FLASHING.
7/30/09 11:43:28 THE DRAWINGS SHOWN IN THE
7/30/09 11:43:29 CONDITION THAT THE INDIVIDUAL
7/30/09 11:43:32 WAS CONCERNED ABOUT SHOWS
7/30/09 11:43:35 COPPER FLASHING.
7/30/09 11:43:37 WE HAVE RECEIVED THAT AND IT
7/30/09 11:43:37 WILL BE PROVIDED.
7/30/09 11:43:38 WE HAVE A GREAT PROJECT.
7/30/09 11:43:40 THIS IS GOING TO BE A WONDERFUL
7/30/09 11:43:42 CENTER WHEN WE GET DOWN AND I
7/30/09 11:43:44 WILL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS
7/30/09 11:43:45 YOU HAD.
7/30/09 11:43:48 >> THANK
7/30/09 11:43:49 YOU SO MUCH.
7/30/09 11:43:52 >> THE GOOD NEWS IS THE
7/30/09 11:43:55 NEIGHBORHOOD CARES SO
7/30/09 11:43:58 PASSIONATEL ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
7/30/09 11:43:59 I CAN'T HONESTLY THINK OF
7/30/09 11:44:02 ANOTHER REC CENTER THAT
7/30/09 11:44:04 HAS
7/30/09 11:44:07 RECEIVED SUCH INTENSE
7/30/09 11:44:10 SCRUTINY
7/30/09 11:44:11 AND ADVOCACY.
7/30/09 11:44:12 THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF
7/30/09 11:44:13 CONVERSATION ABOUT EVERY ASPECT
7/30/09 11:44:16 OF IT BECAUSE WE ARE
7/30/09 11:44:19 BASICALLY
7/30/09 11:44:21 TRYING TO TAKE IT THERE.
7/30/09 11:44:22 I THINK THE PUBLIC ART THAT IS
7/30/09 11:44:25 PART OF IT WILL BE SPECTACULAR.
7/30/09 11:44:28 I THINK THAT THERE IS AND THE
7/30/09 11:44:29 GENTLEMAN RAISED A QUESTION
7/30/09 11:44:32 THAT I THINK IS A
7/30/09 11:44:33 VALID
7/30/09 11:44:34 QUESTION FOR THE CITY WHICH IS
7/30/09 11:44:36 THE FACT THAT IF WE DO THINGS
7/30/09 11:44:39 IN HOUSE AND
7/30/09 11:44:42 WE
7/30/09 11:44:42 HAVE OUR
7/30/09 11:44:43 ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW PEOPLE AN
7/30/09 11:44:45 LOOK AT HOW THEY ARE DOING AND
7/30/09 11:44:46 THEY MIGHT NOT FEEL AS
7/30/09 11:44:48 COMFORTABLE BEING CRITICAL OF
7/30/09 11:44:49 SOMETHING THAT IS A CITY EFFORT
7/30/09 11:44:52 AND I THINK THAT WE
7/30/09 11:44:54 DO NEED TO
7/30/09 11:44:57 LOOK AT SOME WAY TO SORT OF
7/30/09 11:44:57 LET
7/30/09 11:45:00 THEM FEEL THAT
7/30/09 11:45:02 THEY CAN BE
7/30/09 11:45:03 APPROPRIATELY SCRUTINIZING OF A
7/30/09 11:45:04 PROJECT EVEN THOUGH IT IS A
7/30/09 11:45:06 CITY PROJECT BECAUSE THERE WAS
7/30/09 11:45:07 AN E-MAIL I GOT AND THE BEST
7/30/09 11:45:10 LINE IS THAT WE HAVE TO BE
7/30/09 11:45:12 CREDIBLE IN OURSELF IF WE MAKE
7/30/09 11:45:13 OTHER PEOPLE FOLLOW OUR RULES
7/30/09 11:45:15 WE CERTAINLY HAVE TO FOLLOW OUR
7/30/09 11:45:15 RULES.
7/30/09 11:45:16 I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE AFTER
7/30/09 11:45:18 YOUR COMING HERE AND TALKING TO
7/30/09 11:45:20 US THAT WE ARE INDEED FOLLOWING
7/30/09 11:45:23 OUR OWN HIGH
7/30/09 11:45:28 EXPECTATIONS FOR
7/30/09 11:45:28 THAT.
7/30/09 11:45:29 >> I WOULD LOVE TO RESPOND TO
7/30/09 11:45:32 THAT NOT ONLY
7/30/09 11:45:35 IN
7/30/09 11:45:36 CERTAIN AREAS
7/30/09 11:45:38 BUT IN ALL OUR PROJECTS.
7/30/09 11:45:41 WE FILE FOR AND HAVE PERMITS AS
7/30/09 11:45:43 IF WE WERE A PRIVATE ENTITY.
7/30/09 11:45:45 MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IS THAT
7/30/09 11:45:47 RATHER THAN A SITUATION THAT,
7/30/09 11:45:49 OH, IT IS THE CITY, IT IS OKAY,
7/30/09 11:45:50 WE GET LOOKED AT CLOSER BECAUSE
7/30/09 11:45:53 THEY ARE AFRAID OF BEING
7/30/09 11:45:59 ACCUSED OF THAT.
7/30/09 11:46:10 >> THANK YOU, MR. VAUGHN.
7/30/09 11:46:13 >> WE ARE NOW GOING TO GO BACK
7/30/09 11:46:14 TO ITEM 52 AND 53.
7/30/09 11:46:16 IS THERE ANYONE THAT IS GOING
7/30/09 11:46:17 TO SPEAK ON ITEM 52 OR 53 WOULD
7/30/09 11:46:19 YOU PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR
7/30/09 11:46:22 RIGHT HANDS
7/30/09 11:46:25 TO
7/30/09 11:46:28 BE SWORN IN.
7/30/09 11:46:37 >>
7/30/09 11:46:38 ITEM 52.
7/30/09 11:46:39 >> GOOD MORNING.
7/30/09 11:46:39 THIS REQUIRES CERTIFICATION OF
7/30/09 11:46:41 THE PLANS BY THE ZONING
7/30/09 11:46:43 ADMINISTRATOR BASED ON THE
7/30/09 11:46:45 COMMENTS THAT WERE BASED ON THE
7/30/09 11:46:48 MOTION MADE AT THE LAST READING
7/30/09 11:46:49 PUBLIC HEARING.
7/30/09 11:46:52 THE PLANS HAVE
7/30/09 11:46:54 BEEN CERTIFIED
7/30/09 11:46:54 BY THAT.
7/30/09 11:46:57 >> ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO
7/30/09 11:47:00 SPEAK ON ITEM
7/30/09 11:47:03 NUMBER 52?
7/30/09 11:47:06 >> SUSAN
7/30/09 11:47:07 LONG.
7/30/09 11:47:08 921 EAST BROAD STREET.
7/30/09 11:47:09 WE ASKED THAT NO SINGLES AND NO
7/30/09 11:47:11 COURTS OF BEER BE SOLD THEN WE
7/30/09 11:47:13 WENT ON AND SAID NO INDIVIDUAL,
7/30/09 11:47:16 WHAT DO THEY CALL WINE COOLERS.
7/30/09 11:47:18 SINCE WE HAD NEVER DONE A WINE
7/30/09 11:47:20 THING BEFORE, THE SUGGESTION
7/30/09 11:47:23 WAS MADE I BELIEVE THAT THEY
7/30/09 11:47:25 RESTRICT WINE TO 12-OUNCES OR
7/30/09 11:47:26 LESS.
7/30/09 11:47:27 IT'S BEEN WRITTEN FOR
7/30/09 11:47:29 EVERYTHING, BEER COMES IN
7/30/09 11:47:31 SINGLE BEER COME IN
7/30/09 11:47:34 SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER HANDS THAN
7/30/09 11:47:35 12-OUNCES.
7/30/09 11:47:38 THEY ARE 16-OUNCE CANS AND WE
7/30/09 11:47:39 ASKED NO QUARTS.
7/30/09 11:47:41 WHAT'S BEEN WRITTEN UP IS ON
7/30/09 11:47:43 THE WINE WAS FOR EVERYTHING.
7/30/09 11:47:44 NO SINGLES, NO QUARTS FOR BEERS
7/30/09 11:47:48 AND HOWEVER YOU WANT TO WRITE
7/30/09 11:47:51 UP
7/30/09 11:47:53 THE WINE.
7/30/09 11:47:54 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 11:47:57 >> MY NAME
7/30/09 11:47:58 IS INGRID SMITH,
7/30/09 11:47:59 5605 NORTH AVENUE.
7/30/09 11:48:00 I HAVE BEEN SWORN, YES.
7/30/09 11:48:03 I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE SAME
7/30/09 11:48:04 ISSUE AS WELL.
7/30/09 11:48:07 DURING THE DISCUSSION THE 12-
7/30/09 11:48:10 OUNCES WAS FOR THE INDIVIDUAL
7/30/09 11:48:13 SALES OF
7/30/09 11:48:15 WINE COOLERS.
7/30/09 11:48:16 AND NO SINGLE BEER, SINGLE SALE
7/30/09 11:48:19 OF BEER REGARDLESS OF THE SIZE.
7/30/09 11:48:22 WHEN IT WENT INTO THE MOTION IT
7/30/09 11:48:24 CAME IN AND THE WORD AND WAS
7/30/09 11:48:27 USED NO SINGLE SALE OF BEER AND
7/30/09 11:48:28 WINE LESS THAN 12-OUNCES.
7/30/09 11:48:31 I'M JUST ASKING THAT
7/30/09 11:48:32 THAT BE
7/30/09 11:48:33 AMENDED TO --THAT THE SALE OF
7/30/09 11:48:36 BEER AND WINE WILL NOT BE SOLD
7/30/09 11:48:38 IN SINGLES AND THAT THE SALE OF
7/30/09 11:48:41 WINE WILL NOT BE SOLD IN LESS
7/30/09 11:48:44 THAN
7/30/09 11:48:45 12-OUNCE PACKAGES.
7/30/09 11:48:47 I WOULD ASK FOR AN UPDATE ON
7/30/09 11:48:48 THE COMMUNICATION SYSTEM BUT
7/30/09 11:48:49 DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE TRACKED
7/30/09 11:48:51 ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
7/30/09 11:48:52 I HAVE A COPY.
7/30/09 11:48:55 >> WILL YOU
7/30/09 11:48:59 COME BACK, PLEASE.
7/30/09 11:49:02 >> DOES THAT
7/30/09 11:49:04 STATE IN HERE IT
7/30/09 11:49:05 WILL BE SINGLES.
7/30/09 11:49:07 >> NO THE MOTION COMES ACROSS,
7/30/09 11:49:08 IN ADDITION TO MUSIC AND SUCH
7/30/09 11:49:10 IT WAS A PLAN WHERE NO SALES OF
7/30/09 11:49:13 BEER ABS WINE IN PACKAGES OF
7/30/09 11:49:15 12-
7/30/09 11:49:17 OUNCES, LESS THAN 12-OUNCES.
7/30/09 11:49:18 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 11:49:19 NO REFLECTION ON WHOEVER DID
7/30/09 11:49:21 THE TRANSCRIPTION BUT THE
7/30/09 11:49:23 INTENT IF NOT THE ARTICULATE
7/30/09 11:49:24 WAS WHAT THESE LADIES STATED.
7/30/09 11:49:26 SO WOULD THE APPROPRIATE THING
7/30/09 11:49:28 IF WE WANTED TO DO WHAT WE
7/30/09 11:49:30 WANTED TO DO TO GO BACK TO
7/30/09 11:49:33 LEGAL, TO BE REWRITTEN AND COME
7/30/09 11:49:35 BACK TO US.
7/30/09 11:49:36 >> YOU WOULD CONTINUE THE
7/30/09 11:49:39 SECOND READING OUT UNTIL I
7/30/09 11:49:42 GUESS THE
7/30/09 11:49:44 NEXT HEARING IS
7/30/09 11:49:45 AUGUST 20th.
7/30/09 11:49:48 >> WE DON'T NEED TO CONTINUE IT
7/30/09 11:49:49 THAT LONG.
7/30/09 11:49:51 >> IT WOULD BE AUGUST 6.
7/30/09 11:49:52 >> WHY?
7/30/09 11:49:53 WHY WOULD WE HAVE TO CONTINUE
7/30/09 11:49:54 IT THAT FAR?
7/30/09 11:49:55 >> THE CODE REQUIRES AMENDED
7/30/09 11:49:57 PLANS TO BE IN AT LEAST SEVEN
7/30/09 11:49:59 DAYS PRIOR TO THE HEARING.
7/30/09 11:50:00 >> THIS ISN'T AN AMENDED PLAN.
7/30/09 11:50:02 THIS IS LEGAL NOT DOING WHAT WE
7/30/09 11:50:03 HAD INTENDED.
7/30/09 11:50:04 >> NAY IS INCORRECT.
7/30/09 11:50:05 UNDER YOUR NEW PROCESS THAT'S
7/30/09 11:50:06 BEEN IN PLACE FOR SIX MONTHS TO
7/30/09 11:50:07 A YEAR NOW THEY MAKE THOSE
7/30/09 11:50:08 CHANGES ON A SITE PLAN.
7/30/09 11:50:10 IT IS NOT IN THE ORDINANCE.
7/30/09 11:50:12 >> SO IT WOULD IN FACT HAVE TO
7/30/09 11:50:15 BE CONTINUED FOR TWO WEEKS TO
7/30/09 11:50:17 ALLOW THE PETITIONER TO
7/30/09 11:50:18 RESUBMIT.
7/30/09 11:50:21 >> TWO
7/30/09 11:50:24 WEEKS WOULD
7/30/09 11:50:25 BE --
7/30/09 11:50:26 >> REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
7/30/09 11:50:29 >> SO THE APPROPRIATE THING IF
7/30/09 11:50:30 WE WANTED TO REFLECT WHAT WE
7/30/09 11:50:31 HAD PROMISED THE COMMUNITY
7/30/09 11:50:33 WOULD BE JUST TO CONTINUE THIS
7/30/09 11:50:35 TO AUGUST 20TH AND INSTRUCT.
7/30/09 11:50:38 >> THE PETITIONER TO MAKE THE
7/30/09 11:50:38 CHANGES.
7/30/09 11:50:39 >> THE PETITIONER TO MAKE THOSE
7/30/09 11:50:39 CHANGES.
7/30/09 11:50:41 >> I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU HEAR
7/30/09 11:50:42 FROM THE PETITIONER.
7/30/09 11:50:42 >> CERTAINLY.
7/30/09 11:50:43 >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
7/30/09 11:50:44 I DON'T KNOW HOW WINE COMES, I
7/30/09 11:50:46 DON'T KNOW IF IT COMES IN 12-
7/30/09 11:50:47 OUNCES OR FIVE OUNCES OR 19-
7/30/09 11:50:49 OUNCES OR I DON'T KNOW HOW BEER
7/30/09 11:50:52 COMES BECAUSE I DON'T BUY
7/30/09 11:50:53 ANY
7/30/09 11:50:54 OF THAT.
7/30/09 11:50:56 BUT I'M GETTING CONCERNED ABOUT
7/30/09 11:50:57 DIFFERENT PEOPLE DOING
7/30/09 11:51:00 DIFFERENT THINGS AND THAT'S US.
7/30/09 11:51:03 WHEN THE PUBLIC COMES
7/30/09 11:51:04 BACK,
7/30/09 11:51:06 WHEN A WALGREN'S COMES IN, WAL-
7/30/09 11:51:08 MART COMES IN, K-MART COMES IN,
7/30/09 11:51:11 SWEET BAY COMES IN, GUESS WHAT?
7/30/09 11:51:12 WE THE SAME SEVEN NEVER TELL
7/30/09 11:51:14 THEM YOU CAN'T SELL ANYTHING
7/30/09 11:51:15 BUT SINGLES.
7/30/09 11:51:18 YOU CAN'T SELL A SINGLE OVER
7/30/09 11:51:18 THERE.
7/30/09 11:51:21 SO WE ARE HAVING
7/30/09 11:51:24 IN MY
7/30/09 11:51:25 ESTIMATATION A DISPARITY
7/30/09 11:51:26 BETWEEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE A LOT
7/30/09 11:51:28 OF MONEY AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE
7/30/09 11:51:29 NO MONEY.
7/30/09 11:51:32 AND ALL THESE THAT I NAMED, ALL
7/30/09 11:51:34 OF THEM ARE NEIGHBORHOODS.
7/30/09 11:51:35 THE PUBLICS ARE NEIGHBORHOODS,
7/30/09 11:51:37 SWEET BAY IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
7/30/09 11:51:40 THE QUICK CHECKS
7/30/09 11:51:43 ARE IN
7/30/09 11:51:44 NEIGHBORHOODS.
7/30/09 11:51:45 THEY ARE ALL IN THE
7/30/09 11:51:45 NEIGHBORHOOD.
7/30/09 11:51:46 WE DON'T GO AFTER THEM.
7/30/09 11:51:48 WE SIT BACK AND LET THEM DO
7/30/09 11:51:48 WHAT THEY WANT.
7/30/09 11:51:51 SO WE MUST HAVE A
7/30/09 11:51:51 STANDARD
7/30/09 11:51:54 SOMEWHERE HERE WHERE WE CAN SAY
7/30/09 11:51:57 ONE FOR ALL AND ALL
7/30/09 11:51:57 FOR ONE.
7/30/09 11:51:58 BUT THAT'S THOUGHT BEING DONE.
7/30/09 11:52:01 SO I'M TRYING TO SET A STANDARD
7/30/09 11:52:04 SO THAT NO ONE
7/30/09 11:52:05 THAT COMES HERE
7/30/09 11:52:07 GETS HAMMERED AND SOMEBODY ELSE
7/30/09 11:52:10 SAYS YOU'RE A BIG GUY, YOU'VE
7/30/09 11:52:12 GOT ALL THOSE GOING INTO IT.
7/30/09 11:52:13 THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE AND I
7/30/09 11:52:15 DON'T SEE ANYTHING COMING FROM
7/30/09 11:52:16 US.
7/30/09 11:52:16 >> IS THE PETITIONER HERE?
7/30/09 11:52:18 WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP?
7/30/09 11:52:21 >> AND THEN I'D LIKE TO ASK A
7/30/09 11:52:24 QUESTION
7/30/09 11:52:27 OF THE
7/30/09 11:52:29 NEIGHBOR.
7/30/09 11:52:32 >> GOOD
7/30/09 11:52:33 MORNING.
7/30/09 11:52:36 MY NAME IS
7/30/09 11:52:39 EDUARDO.
7/30/09 11:52:42 I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF
7/30/09 11:52:46 A FOOD
7/30/09 11:52:46 STORE.
7/30/09 11:52:49 THIS IS BASICALLY A GROCERY
7/30/09 11:52:51 STORE, A MEAT MARKET.
7/30/09 11:52:54 THIS IS A PLACE
7/30/09 11:52:57 THAT
7/30/09 11:53:00 HAD ZONING
7/30/09 11:53:01 BEFORE.
7/30/09 11:53:04 THE ZONING WAS REVOKED JUST
7/30/09 11:53:05 BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS OWNER AND
7/30/09 11:53:08 THE PROPERTY OWNER DID
7/30/09 11:53:11 NOT
7/30/09 11:53:11 REQUEST AN EXTENSION.
7/30/09 11:53:13 THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN FOR MORE
7/30/09 11:53:16 THAN 15 YEARS THE SALE OF BEER
7/30/09 11:53:19 AND WINE AT
7/30/09 11:53:25 THAT PARTICULAR
7/30/09 11:53:28 PLACE
7/30/09 11:53:31 UNDER A 285F
7/30/09 11:53:33 LICENSE.
7/30/09 11:53:34 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 11:53:37 >> AT THE END OF THE OUR LAST
7/30/09 11:53:40 MEETING WHEN YOU HEARD
7/30/09 11:53:41 WHAT WE
7/30/09 11:53:44 SAID OUR INTEREST WAS IN
7/30/09 11:53:47 RESTRICTING INDIVIDUAL SALES OF
7/30/09 11:53:47 BEER AND WINE.
7/30/09 11:53:50 DID YOU
7/30/09 11:53:53 AGREE TO
7/30/09 11:53:54 THAT?
7/30/09 11:53:57 >> THE CONDITIONS THAT
7/30/09 11:54:00 WERE
7/30/09 11:54:03 ADOPTED THAT DAY A SITE
7/30/09 11:54:03 PLAN.
7/30/09 11:54:06 WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT
7/30/09 11:54:08 THE CITY
7/30/09 11:54:10 COUNCIL LETTER OF JUNE 29th
7/30/09 11:54:10 SAID.
7/30/09 11:54:13 >> THANK YOU
7/30/09 11:54:14 VERY MUCH.
7/30/09 11:54:15 >> MADAM CHAIRMAN, CAN I ASK A
7/30/09 11:54:17 QUESTION OF SOMEONE THAT SPOKE
7/30/09 11:54:18 PREVIOUSLY.
7/30/09 11:54:21 THE LADY WITH THE
7/30/09 11:54:21 GREEN SCARF.
7/30/09 11:54:24 I'M SORRY, I FORGOT
7/30/09 11:54:25 YOUR NAME.
7/30/09 11:54:28 >> WHY DID YOU AT THE LAST
7/30/09 11:54:31 MEETING REQUEST THAT WE FOCUS
7/30/09 11:54:33 ON INDIVIDUAL SALES.
7/30/09 11:54:36 NOT ALLOWING INDIVIDUAL SALES.
7/30/09 11:54:39 >> RECENTLY
7/30/09 11:54:41 WE HAVE --SEMINOLE
7/30/09 11:54:44 HEIGHTS HAS BEEN WATCHING THE
7/30/09 11:54:47 DEVELOPMENT OF OUR DISTRICT.
7/30/09 11:54:49 HOWARD AVENUE WAS NOT A GREAT
7/30/09 11:54:50 PLACE TO START A RESTAURANT
7/30/09 11:54:52 BECAUSE OF THE ZONING, NOTHING
7/30/09 11:54:55 WOULD EVER HAPPEN.
7/30/09 11:54:57 AFTER LEARNING THOSE
7/30/09 11:55:00 EXPERIENCES WE HAVE NOW
7/30/09 11:55:03 RECENTLY BEEN WATCHING
7/30/09 11:55:04 THE
7/30/09 11:55:05 DEVELOPMENT IN SEMINOLE
7/30/09 11:55:05 HEIGHTS.
7/30/09 11:55:06 PUBLIC DOESN'T HAVE SINGLE
7/30/09 11:55:06 SALES.
7/30/09 11:55:08 RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A MAJOR
7/30/09 11:55:11 CHANGE THAT IS IN THE AREA.
7/30/09 11:55:13 THEY WILL BE COMING INTO THE
7/30/09 11:55:14 AREA.
7/30/09 11:55:15 THEY WILL BE MAKING AN ATTEMPT
7/30/09 11:55:16 TO.
7/30/09 11:55:17 THEY WILL BE MAKING THE SAME
7/30/09 11:55:20 REQUEST OF
7/30/09 11:55:21 THEM AS WELL.
7/30/09 11:55:23 THERE ARE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE
7/30/09 11:55:24 SINGLE SALES.
7/30/09 11:55:26 THAT WAS DONE AWHILE AGO BEFORE
7/30/09 11:55:28 WE STARTED KEEPING AN EYE ON
7/30/09 11:55:28 IT.
7/30/09 11:55:30 NOW AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE BEEN A
7/30/09 11:55:33 LOT MORE ACTIVE IN WATCHING THE
7/30/09 11:55:35 WET ZONING AND THE 3:00 A.M.
7/30/09 11:55:38 AND THE CUTOFFS AT MIDNIGHT
7/30/09 11:55:40 AND
7/30/09 11:55:40 1:00 A.M.
7/30/09 11:55:41 >> JUST BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN
7/30/09 11:55:42 DONE A CERTAIN WAY BEFORE
7/30/09 11:55:45 DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO
7/30/09 11:55:46 CONTINUE ON THAT TREND.
7/30/09 11:55:48 I WAS COMING HOME ON THE BUS
7/30/09 11:55:51 THE OTHER DAY AND THERE WAS A
7/30/09 11:55:53 GENTLEMAN AT THE BUS STOP WITH
7/30/09 11:55:56 ONE OF THE LARGE BOTTLES OF
7/30/09 11:55:58 WINE PASSED OUT THERE.
7/30/09 11:55:58 THE LARGE ONE.
7/30/09 11:56:01 PASSED OUT RIGHT THERE AT
7/30/09 11:56:02 THE
7/30/09 11:56:02 BUS STOP.
7/30/09 11:56:05 >> THEY TURN UP IN THE
7/30/09 11:56:05 ALLEYWAYS.
7/30/09 11:56:07 THE BUSINESSES DON'T QLEEN THEM
7/30/09 11:56:07 UP.
7/30/09 11:56:09 YES, THEY WALK OUT WITH THE
7/30/09 11:56:10 PAPER BAGS BUT VERY SHORTLY
7/30/09 11:56:13 THEREAFTER THEY TURN
7/30/09 11:56:15 UP IN THE
7/30/09 11:56:15 ALLEYWAYS.
7/30/09 11:56:18 EMPTY OF BEER BUT REFILLED
7/30/09 11:56:19 WITH
7/30/09 11:56:20 OTHER LIQUID CONTENTS.
7/30/09 11:56:23 SO IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO SELL
7/30/09 11:56:23 THEM.
7/30/09 11:56:26 IT DOESN'T HELP THE
7/30/09 11:56:27 NEIGHBORHOOD AND I UNDERSTAND
7/30/09 11:56:28 THE CONCERN THAT THIS MAY
7/30/09 11:56:31 APPEAR TO BE A SMALL
7/30/09 11:56:31 BUSINESS.
7/30/09 11:56:33 WE HAVEN'T HAD A MAJOR CHAIN IN
7/30/09 11:56:35 SOME OF THE HEIGHTS BUT IT WILL
7/30/09 11:56:38 BE ADDRESSED IN SEPTEMBER
7/30/09 11:56:42 WHEN
7/30/09 11:56:44 THERE IS MEETING WITH THE
7/30/09 11:56:44 NEIGHBORHOOD.
7/30/09 11:56:45 THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN NOTIFIED
7/30/09 11:56:48 WE HAVE SOME CONCERNS
7/30/09 11:56:53 ABOUT
7/30/09 11:56:54 SINGLE SALES.
7/30/09 11:56:55 >> ANYTHING FOR COUNCIL
7/30/09 11:56:55 MEMBERS?
7/30/09 11:56:58 >> THANK YOU MUCH THE
7/30/09 11:56:59 PETITIONER HAS GRACIOUSLY
7/30/09 11:57:01 AGREED TO THE CONCERNS AND I
7/30/09 11:57:04 THINK IT WAS JUST NOT WRITTEN
7/30/09 11:57:05 THE WAY IT WAS INTENDED BY
7/30/09 11:57:07 COUNCIL SO I WOULD LIKE TO
7/30/09 11:57:10 CONTINUE TO CONTINUE THIS
7/30/09 11:57:10 TO
7/30/09 11:57:12 THE AUGUST 20E MEETING TO ALLOW
7/30/09 11:57:14 THE PETITIONER TO MAKE A CHANGE
7/30/09 11:57:17 ON HIS SITE PLAN
7/30/09 11:57:20 TO REFLECT THE
7/30/09 11:57:22 PROHIBITION AGAINST INDIVIDUAL
7/30/09 11:57:22 SALES.
7/30/09 11:57:24 WINE 12-OUNCES OR LESS AND IN
7/30/09 11:57:26 BEER SINGLES AN QUARTZ.
7/30/09 11:57:27 THAT'S MY MOTION.
7/30/09 11:57:29 >> I'LL SECOND THAT.
7/30/09 11:57:32 AND I AGREE
7/30/09 11:57:32 WITH YOU.
7/30/09 11:57:34 THE TRANSCRIPTS THAT WE ARE
7/30/09 11:57:37 GETTING TODAY ARE
7/30/09 11:57:40 IN MY OPINION
7/30/09 11:57:40 TERRIBLY INCORRECT.
7/30/09 11:57:43 SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY
7/30/09 11:57:44 USE ARE MISSPELLED.
7/30/09 11:57:45 MOST CAN'T MAKE TEXT OF IT.
7/30/09 11:57:47 WE CHANGE FROM THE INDIVIDUALS
7/30/09 11:57:49 WHO HAD IT TO --I DON'T KNOW
7/30/09 11:57:49 WHO THEY ARE.
7/30/09 11:57:52 TO ANOTHER COMPANY THAT WAS A
7/30/09 11:57:52 LOW BID.
7/30/09 11:57:53 THAT'S FINE.
7/30/09 11:57:54 BUT THE PRODUCT THAT WE ARE
7/30/09 11:57:56 GETTING AN I'LL PROVE IT TO
7/30/09 11:57:58 ANYBODY IS FAR INFERIOR FROM
7/30/09 11:58:00 WHAT WE HAD IT FOR.
7/30/09 11:58:01 I THOUGHT OF CHECKING YESTERDAY
7/30/09 11:58:04 ON SOMETHING AND I COULDN'T
7/30/09 11:58:04 FOLLOW THE DIALOGUE.
7/30/09 11:58:07 HALF OF THE CONVERSATIONS WERE
7/30/09 11:58:08 MISSING.
7/30/09 11:58:09 THEY ARE NOT ACCURATE.
7/30/09 11:58:12 AND IT BOTHERS ME THAT A CITY
7/30/09 11:58:14 OF THIS SIZE WILL HAVE A RECORD
7/30/09 11:58:16 TO FALL ON THAT IS ACCURATE
7/30/09 11:58:19 OTHER THAN THE ONES THAT
7/30/09 11:58:19 ARE
7/30/09 11:58:20 TELEVISED.
7/30/09 11:58:21 SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE.
7/30/09 11:58:22 THEY HAVE EITHER GOT TO GET
7/30/09 11:58:24 BETTER OR WE GOT TO GET BETTER
7/30/09 11:58:26 AND FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO DO IT
7/30/09 11:58:27 AT A BETTER PRICE RIGHT.
7/30/09 11:58:29 I DON'T CARE IF IT COSTS A
7/30/09 11:58:31 COUPLE OF DOLLARS MORE BECAUSE
7/30/09 11:58:33 THESE ARE INSTITUTIONAL RECORDS
7/30/09 11:58:35 THAT SHOULD BE KEPT VERY, VERY
7/30/09 11:58:38 CAREFULLY AND VERY WELL
7/30/09 11:58:38 MAINTAINED.
7/30/09 11:58:41 AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE
7/30/09 11:58:43 THEY ARE
7/30/09 11:58:44 NOT.
7/30/09 11:58:44 >> YES.
7/30/09 11:58:45 >> I DIDN'T HEAR APPARENTLY THE
7/30/09 11:58:47 RECORD ON THIS, THE TRANSCRIPT
7/30/09 11:58:49 WASN'T CORRECT AND SO THIS
7/30/09 11:58:50 DIDN'T GET WRITTEN CORRECTLY,
7/30/09 11:58:53 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO
7/30/09 11:58:54 JUST AGREE
7/30/09 11:58:55 WITH MR. MIRANDA AND SAY WE
7/30/09 11:58:57 NEED TO LOOK INTO THIS BECAUSE
7/30/09 11:58:58 IT IS --READING THOSE IT
7/30/09 11:59:01 SOUNDS LIKE IT IS ENGLISH AS A
7/30/09 11:59:03 SECOND LANGUAGE WHOEVER IS
7/30/09 11:59:04 TRANSCRIBING THEM AND THE OTHER
7/30/09 11:59:08 --IF IT IS NOT BEING
7/30/09 11:59:08 DONE IN
7/30/09 11:59:09 THIS BUILDING BY SOMEONE IN THE
7/30/09 11:59:11 ROOM OR IN THE BUILDING OR AT
7/30/09 11:59:14 LEAST SOMEONE LOCALRY IT
7/30/09 11:59:17 DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT
7/30/09 11:59:20 SOMEBODY IN ANOTHER STATE WOULD
7/30/09 11:59:23 HAVE ANY IDEA OF STREETS
7/30/09 11:59:24 AND
7/30/09 11:59:27 INDIVIDUALS AND LOCAL
7/30/09 11:59:29 ISSUES.
7/30/09 11:59:31 INTO WHEN WE HAD A DISCUSSION,
7/30/09 11:59:32 WE HAVE THIS BEFORE US WE NEED
7/30/09 11:59:33 TO MOVE THE MOTION TO CONTINUE
7/30/09 11:59:36 THE ITEM TO AUGUST THE 20TH
7/30/09 11:59:37 TO
7/30/09 11:59:38 MAKE THE CORRECTIONS.
7/30/09 11:59:38 MOVED AND SECONDED.
7/30/09 11:59:40 >> I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THE
7/30/09 11:59:41 PETITIONER WISHES TO ADDRESS
7/30/09 11:59:42 THAT MOTION.
7/30/09 11:59:45 DO YOU HAVE ANY LAST WORDS TO
7/30/09 11:59:48 SAY BEFORE --IS IT
7/30/09 11:59:49 YOUR
7/30/09 11:59:51 AGREEMENT THEN, SIR, TO HAVE
7/30/09 11:59:52 THIS CONTINUED TO HAVE THESE
7/30/09 11:59:55 ITEMS ADDRESSED THAT
7/30/09 11:59:56 HAVE BEEN
7/30/09 11:59:56 EXPRESSED?
7/30/09 11:59:57 >> YES.
7/30/09 12:00:00 I ACCEPT THAT WE CAN
7/30/09 12:00:01 CONTINUE
7/30/09 12:00:01 CONTINUE THIS.
7/30/09 12:00:03 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
7/30/09 12:00:06 >> THE MOTION TO AUGUST 22.
7/30/09 12:00:07 SIGNIFY BY AYE.
7/30/09 12:00:08 >> AYE.
7/30/09 12:00:08 >> OPPOSERS.
7/30/09 12:00:10 >> A TIME THEN?
7/30/09 12:00:13 >> 9:30 P.M.
7/30/09 12:00:13 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 12:00:16 AND APOLOGIZE GOT KIND OF LATE
7/30/09 12:00:17 TODAY BUT ITEM 53.
7/30/09 12:00:20 THEY ARE HERE ON
7/30/09 12:00:23 THIS
7/30/09 12:00:28 ITEM.
7/30/09 12:00:28 PUBLIC HEARING.
7/30/09 12:00:31 (CHANGING CAPTIONERS

7/30/09 13:33:57 >>> ALL
7/30/09 13:34:02 RIGHT.
7/30/09 13:34:03 WE CAN TAKE UP
7/30/09 13:34:06 THE 1:30 ITEMS.
7/30/09 13:34:08 ITEM 63.
7/30/09 13:34:08 ITEM 63
7/30/09 13:34:11 IS THE CONTINUED PUBLIC
7/30/09 13:34:12 HEARING STKPHRFPLT DID THE 1:30
7/30/09 13:34:12 ITEMS.
7/30/09 13:34:13 ITEM 63.
7/30/09 13:34:13 ITEM 63 IS THE CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING STKPHRFPLT DID YOU WANT TO SWEAR
7/30/09 13:34:16 IN THE WITNESSES FOR
7/30/09 13:34:17 THIS AFTERNOON'S HEARING?
7/30/09 13:34:18 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 13:34:19 ANYONE THAT'S GOING
7/30/09 13:34:22 TO BE SPEAKING TO COUNCIL,
7/30/09 13:34:24 PLEASE STAND AND BE SWORN AT
7/30/09 13:34:24 THIS TIME.
7/30/09 13:34:25 IF YOU'RE GOING TO
7/30/09 13:34:28 BE SPEAK TO COUNCIL, PLEASE
7/30/09 13:34:31 STAND TO
7/30/09 13:34:34 BE SWORN.
7/30/09 13:34:40 >> I
7/30/09 13:34:42 WOULD ASK THAT WRITTEN
7/30/09 13:34:44 COMMUNICATIONS WHICH HAVE BEEN
7/30/09 13:34:47 ABLE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION
7/30/09 13:34:48 BE
7/30/09 13:34:49 RECEIVED AND FILED.
7/30/09 13:34:52 >> MOVE TO
7/30/09 13:34:53 BE RECEIVED AND
7/30/09 13:34:53 FILED.
7/30/09 13:34:56 >> ALL IN
7/30/09 13:35:00 FAVOR?
7/30/09 13:35:07 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
7/30/09 13:35:09 THIS IS A
7/30/09 13:35:12 PETITION OF 282 FOR THE
7/30/09 13:35:15 PROPERTY
7/30/09 13:35:17 LOCATED --THIS IS COMMERCIAL
7/30/09 13:35:17 GENERAL.
7/30/09 13:35:20 THE REQUEST IS FOR A
7/30/09 13:35:23 SEALED PX
7/30/09 13:35:25 AND WOULD ALLOW THE
7/30/09 13:35:28 SALE OF BEVERAGES FOR CON
7/30/09 13:35:28 SUPBLGS ON PREMISES ONLY.
7/30/09 13:35:29 THIS
7/30/09 13:35:32 IS A
7/30/09 13:35:38 ONE-STORY BUILD ING
7/30/09 13:35:38 ING THE
7/30/09 13:35:41 TOTAL AREA IS 3,834 SQUARE
7/30/09 13:35:42 FEET,
7/30/09 13:35:45 WHICH INCLUDES A 171 SQUARE
7/30/09 13:35:46 FOOT
7/30/09 13:35:49 COVERED ENTRANCE AREA AND 747
7/30/09 13:35:52 SQUARE FEET
7/30/09 13:35:58 OUTDOOR SEATING.
7/30/09 13:36:01 THIS IS
7/30/09 13:36:07 AN AERIAL ON THE
7/30/09 13:36:10 SITE
7/30/09 13:36:14 OF
7/30/09 13:36:14 KENNEDY.
7/30/09 13:36:16 PICTURES OF THE SITE,
7/30/09 13:36:19 THIS IS THE
7/30/09 13:36:21 VIEW ON THE SITE ON
7/30/09 13:36:21 KENNEDY.
7/30/09 13:36:23 THIS IS THE EAST.
7/30/09 13:36:23 THAT'S THE
7/30/09 13:36:26 EASTERN VIEW OF
7/30/09 13:36:27 THE
7/30/09 13:36:27 SITE.
7/30/09 13:36:28 THIS IS THE WESTERN VIEW
7/30/09 13:36:31 AND THIS IS
7/30/09 13:36:31 THE NORTH.
7/30/09 13:36:34 THIS IS
7/30/09 13:36:36 THE ALLEY LOCATED NORTH OF THE
7/30/09 13:36:39 SITE AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED
7/30/09 13:36:40 ENTRANCE TO THE SITE OFF OF THE
7/30/09 13:36:43 ALLEY AND THEY WILL RETURN INTO
7/30/09 13:36:46 THE SITE, HEADING SOUTH.
7/30/09 13:36:47 THIS
7/30/09 13:36:50 IS THE EASTERN SIDE OF
7/30/09 13:36:52 THE SITE
7/30/09 13:36:55 AND WILL DIRECT
7/30/09 13:36:58 TRAFFIC
7/30/09 13:36:59 OUT ON
7/30/09 13:37:01 TO KENNEDY.
7/30/09 13:37:04 WE FIND THE REQUEST
7/30/09 13:37:10 INCONSISTENT WITH THE
7/30/09 13:37:11 TAMPA
7/30/09 13:37:12 REGULATIONS.
7/30/09 13:37:13 THE FIRST THREE
7/30/09 13:37:14 COMMENTS ARE RELATED TO NOTES
7/30/09 13:37:16 AND REVISIONS TO THE SITE PLAN.
7/30/09 13:37:19 THE FIRST IS THE LOCATION
7/30/09 13:37:22 OF THE
7/30/09 13:37:24 FUNDING USED FOR THE SITE.
7/30/09 13:37:24 THEY
7/30/09 13:37:27 WILL HAVE TO BE DEPICTED ON THE
7/30/09 13:37:33 SITE PLAN.
7/30/09 13:37:38 THE SERVICE WILL NOT
7/30/09 13:37:41 ALLOW
7/30/09 13:37:44 VEHICLES TO CONSTRUCT
7/30/09 13:37:46 TO
7/30/09 13:37:49 THE CITY OF TAMPA
7/30/09 13:37:50 RIGHT AWAY.
7/30/09 13:37:53 THE LAST TWO
7/30/09 13:37:54 INCONSISTENCIES
7/30/09 13:37:54 WILL REMAIN.
7/30/09 13:37:55 ONCE THE REQUEST
7/30/09 13:37:58 FOR THE REDUCTION IN THE
7/30/09 13:37:59 AMOUNT
7/30/09 13:38:02 OF REQUIRED PARKING SPACES,
7/30/09 13:38:04 TRANSPORTATION FINDS THIS TO BE
7/30/09 13:38:05 ACCESSIVE.
7/30/09 13:38:06 THE CODE REQUIRES
7/30/09 13:38:08 INGRESS AND DIGRESS PARKING
7/30/09 13:38:09 LOTS.
7/30/09 13:38:12 THEY ARE LIMITED
7/30/09 13:38:13 TO
7/30/09 13:38:15 COLLECTOR STREETS.
7/30/09 13:38:16 THIS
7/30/09 13:38:17 CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
7/30/09 13:38:17 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 13:38:19 ON THE SITE
7/30/09 13:38:22 PLAN, IT SAYS THAT ACCORDING TO
7/30/09 13:38:25 THE PARKING
7/30/09 13:38:27 CALCULATIONS, 182
7/30/09 13:38:29 PEOPLE CAN USE THIS FACILITY.
7/30/09 13:38:30 >> YES.
7/30/09 13:38:30 >> SO
7/30/09 13:38:33 182 PEOPLE CAN USE IT AND
7/30/09 13:38:36 THE PARKING
7/30/09 13:38:37 PROVIDED IS 18.
7/30/09 13:38:38 >> YES.
7/30/09 13:38:40 AND THE PETITION HAS
7/30/09 13:38:43 REQUESTED A WAIVER, NUMBER
7/30/09 13:38:44 3, TO
7/30/09 13:38:47 REDUCE THE PARKING
7/30/09 13:38:47 SPACES,
7/30/09 13:38:50 REQUIRED FROM 46 TO 18 AND THEY
7/30/09 13:38:53 CAN GO INTO THE TPWRAEPLTS THEY
7/30/09 13:38:56 HAVE MADE --AGREEMENTS THEY
7/30/09 13:38:57 HAVE MADE.
7/30/09 13:39:00 >> ALL
7/30/09 13:39:02 RIGHT.
7/30/09 13:39:05 >> PETITION?
7/30/09 13:39:08 >>
7/30/09 13:39:11 ALL
7/30/09 13:39:14 RIGHT.
7/30/09 13:39:41 >> REPRESENTING THE
7/30/09 13:39:41 APPLICANT.
7/30/09 13:39:41 WITH ME
7/30/09 13:39:44 TODAY IS MY CLIENT AS
7/30/09 13:39:47 WELL AS THE
7/30/09 13:39:47 TRANSPORTATION
7/30/09 13:39:47 ENGINEER.
7/30/09 13:39:49 AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE
7/30/09 13:39:52 SEEKING A 4 COP LICENSE
7/30/09 13:39:53 TO
7/30/09 13:39:56 OPERATE A SPORTS TAVERN ON
7/30/09 13:39:56 THE
7/30/09 13:39:59 NORTH EAST
7/30/09 13:40:02 CORNER OF ARAWANA AND
7/30/09 13:40:03 KENNEDY.
7/30/09 13:40:04 MY CLIENT'S INTENT IS
7/30/09 13:40:07 TO REUSE THE
7/30/09 13:40:08 EXISTING BUILDING
7/30/09 13:40:09 BY MAKING SUBSTANTIAL UPGRADES
7/30/09 13:40:12 TO THE
7/30/09 13:40:12 BUILDING.
7/30/09 13:40:13 WE'LL SHARE
7/30/09 13:40:14 THAT WITH YOU IN A COUPLE OF
7/30/09 13:40:15 MINUTES.
7/30/09 13:40:16 WE'RE LOOKING TO
7/30/09 13:40:19 CONTINUE
7/30/09 13:40:21 THE KENNEDY
7/30/09 13:40:21 REVITALIZATION.
7/30/09 13:40:22 IT'S IMPORTANT
7/30/09 13:40:25 TO NOTE THE OUTSET IS
7/30/09 13:40:26 PERMITTED
7/30/09 13:40:27 WITHIN THE CATEGORY AS MANY
7/30/09 13:40:30 OTHERS THAT ARE MORE INTENSIVE
7/30/09 13:40:33 THAN WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY.
7/30/09 13:40:36 WE'RE HERE FOR CONSIDERATION OF
7/30/09 13:40:37 THE USE PERMIT ONLY.
7/30/09 13:40:38 WE
7/30/09 13:40:40 CONTINUED THIS HEARING ONCE
7/30/09 13:40:43 WITHOUT PRESENTING A CASE OR
7/30/09 13:40:43 ARGUMENT.
7/30/09 13:40:45 WE WANTED TO BE SURE
7/30/09 13:40:47 TO MEET WITH NEIGHBORS AND HAVE
7/30/09 13:40:48 THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THEIR
7/30/09 13:40:50 CONCERNS AND OTHER ISSUES
7/30/09 13:40:50 RAISED.
7/30/09 13:40:53 WE HAVE MET A TOTAL OF
7/30/09 13:40:54 3 TIMES.
7/30/09 13:40:57 THE FIRST TIME ONLY
7/30/09 13:40:59 MR. BRIGGS DID ATTEND.
7/30/09 13:40:59 THE
7/30/09 13:41:01 SECOND TIME, THREE PEOPLE
7/30/09 13:41:02 ATTENDED.
7/30/09 13:41:04 THE THIRD TIME WE MET
7/30/09 13:41:06 THIS MORNING AND 4 PEOPLE
7/30/09 13:41:06 ATTENDED.
7/30/09 13:41:09 THE PURPOSE OF THIS
7/30/09 13:41:12 MORNING'S MEETING WAS TO
7/30/09 13:41:13 SHARE
7/30/09 13:41:15 THE PRESENTATION WITH THE
7/30/09 13:41:15 HOMEOWNERS AND FURTHER
7/30/09 13:41:16 DISCUSSIONS.
7/30/09 13:41:17 I BELIEVE YOU'LL
7/30/09 13:41:19 HEAR OPPOSITION TODAY AND I ALSO
7/30/09 13:41:22 BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE AN
7/30/09 13:41:24 AGREEMENT ON CONDITIONS THAT
7/30/09 13:41:27 CONTAIN CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS OF
7/30/09 13:41:29 THE APPLICANT, SHOULD THIS
7/30/09 13:41:32 COUNCIL DECIDE TO
7/30/09 13:41:34 APPROVE THE
7/30/09 13:41:35 CONDITION.
7/30/09 13:41:36 I THINK IF THE
7/30/09 13:41:39 COUNCIL WERE INCLINED
7/30/09 13:41:41 TO --
7/30/09 13:41:44 INCLINED TO AGREE, THEN THEY
7/30/09 13:41:46 WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF.
7/30/09 13:41:48 THERE'S A COUPLE OF HANDOUTS I
7/30/09 13:41:50 WANT TO GIVE YOU AT THE OUTSET.
7/30/09 13:41:53 YOU'LL BE ABLE TO REVIEW THEM.
7/30/09 13:41:56 MIKE?
7/30/09 13:41:59 TWO
7/30/09 13:42:02 SETS
7/30/09 13:42:05 OF DOCUMENTS.
7/30/09 13:42:08 THE
7/30/09 13:42:11 FIRST IS ENTITLED WET
7/30/09 13:42:11 ZONE
7/30/09 13:42:14 APPROVALS AND VICINITY
7/30/09 13:42:17 OF 2617
7/30/09 13:42:18 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
7/30/09 13:42:19 I'LL
7/30/09 13:42:22 WAIT UNTIL YOU
7/30/09 13:42:25 RECEIVE THOSE.
7/30/09 13:42:43 IF YOU LOOK
7/30/09 13:42:46 AT THE
7/30/09 13:42:47 FIRST PAGE --
7/30/09 13:42:50 SECOND PAGE OF
7/30/09 13:42:52 THAT PARTICULAR
7/30/09 13:42:55 DOCUMENT, YOU'LL NOTE
7/30/09 13:42:57 THAT THE
7/30/09 13:42:59 CENTER PAGE, THERE'S A MARKING
7/30/09 13:42:59 IN BLUE.
7/30/09 13:43:00 THAT'S THE SITE.
7/30/09 13:43:02 IT'S DIFFICULT
7/30/09 13:43:03 TO DISCERN.
7/30/09 13:43:04 THE PURPOSE IS TO
7/30/09 13:43:07 SHOW YOU ON THE FIRST
7/30/09 13:43:09 TAB, THE
7/30/09 13:43:12 NUMBER OF WET
7/30/09 13:43:12 ZONING APPROVALS.
7/30/09 13:43:15 WE
7/30/09 13:43:18 HAVE
7/30/09 13:43:19 BEEN 27.
7/30/09 13:43:21 WE HAVE LIQUOR
7/30/09 13:43:22 STORES, ABC LIQUOR.
7/30/09 13:43:24 WE HAVE THE
7/30/09 13:43:26 KENNEDY, 4 COP.
7/30/09 13:43:28 THEN WE HAVE
7/30/09 13:43:29 CONVENIENT STORES INDICATED
7/30/09 13:43:30 THERE AS WELL.
7/30/09 13:43:32 THE SECOND
7/30/09 13:43:34 DOCUMENT CONTAINS THE MAJORITY
7/30/09 13:43:36 OF THE PRESENTATION, WHICH WE'LL
7/30/09 13:43:37 REVIEW.
7/30/09 13:43:39 THAT DOCUMENT INCLUDES
7/30/09 13:43:40 MANY ITEMS AND I WANT TO GO
7/30/09 13:43:41 THROUGH THEM QUICKLY.
7/30/09 13:43:43 ONE IS A
7/30/09 13:43:46 SITE PLAN TO REVIEW IN DETAIL.
7/30/09 13:43:49 TWO
7/30/09 13:43:52 IS RENDERINGS OF THE
7/30/09 13:43:55 PROPOSED USE OF THE
7/30/09 13:43:55 BUILDING.
7/30/09 13:43:57 THERE WILL BE SUBSTANTIAL REUSE
7/30/09 13:43:59 OF THE BUILDING AND INVESTMENT
7/30/09 13:44:00 IN THAT.
7/30/09 13:44:03 THREE IS THE
7/30/09 13:44:04 BUSINESS
7/30/09 13:44:07 PLAN FOR ON THE LINE
7/30/09 13:44:10 SPORTS
7/30/09 13:44:13 TAVERN.
7/30/09 13:44:34 WE HAVE A
7/30/09 13:44:36 LETTER OF
7/30/09 13:44:38 SUPPORT WHICH IS LOCATED TO THE
7/30/09 13:44:41 WEST ON KENNEDY.
7/30/09 13:44:44 TAB 6, WE HAVE
7/30/09 13:44:47 ANOTHER
7/30/09 13:44:50 LETTER DEALING WITH
7/30/09 13:44:56 NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS AND
7/30/09 13:44:56 HE
7/30/09 13:44:58 ADDRESSES THOSE THERE.
7/30/09 13:44:58 THE
7/30/09 13:44:59 IMPORTANT PART OF THE LETTER IS
7/30/09 13:45:01 THAT MY CLIENT HAS OFFERED TO --
7/30/09 13:45:04 CLIENT HAS
7/30/09 13:45:06 OFFERED TO PUT UP A
7/30/09 13:45:09 FENCE ON THEIR PROPERTY
7/30/09 13:45:09 TO
7/30/09 13:45:10 SCREEN THEIR PROPERTY FROM THE
7/30/09 13:45:11 USE.
7/30/09 13:45:14 THERE IS A CHAIN LENGTH
7/30/09 13:45:17 FENCE ALONG THE PROPERTIES.
7/30/09 13:45:19 HEADING EASTBOUND ALONG THE
7/30/09 13:45:20 ALLEY AND MY CLIENT IS WILLING
7/30/09 13:45:23 TO PUT AN ESCROW TO HAVE THE
7/30/09 13:45:25 FENCES INSTALLED.
7/30/09 13:45:26 HE'S GOING TO
7/30/09 13:45:28 DO THAT.
7/30/09 13:45:30 UNDER TAB 7, THERE'S
7/30/09 13:45:32 PARKING AGREEMENTS.
7/30/09 13:45:34 THERE WAS A
7/30/09 13:45:37 VERY WAIVER SOUGHT FOR PARKING.
7/30/09 13:45:39 RIGHT TPHOURBGS WE HAVE 18 --
7/30/09 13:45:42 RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE
7/30/09 13:45:44 18 SPACES.
7/30/09 13:45:47 IF YOU'LL NOTE, THE DEPARTMENTS
7/30/09 13:45:49 COMMENTED, THE ONLY DEPARTMENT
7/30/09 13:45:50 HAVING OBJECTION IS
7/30/09 13:45:52 TRANSPORTATION, WHICH WE WORK
7/30/09 13:45:53 CLOSELY WITH TRANSPORTATION.
7/30/09 13:45:55 THERE'S TWO AGREEMENTS IN THE
7/30/09 13:45:57 BACK UP UNDER TAB 7. FIRST ONE
7/30/09 13:46:00 IS AN AGREEMENT TO
7/30/09 13:46:03 UTILIZE ALL
7/30/09 13:46:05 DONALDSON'S 22 SPACES TO THE
7/30/09 13:46:07 WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
7/30/09 13:46:10 THE SECOND AGREEMENT IS TO
7/30/09 13:46:12 UTILIZE AN ADDITIONAL O 10
7/30/09 13:46:15 PARKING SPACES ON THE SUN
7/30/09 13:46:15 CODE
7/30/09 13:46:18 PAINT CENTERS, TWO PROPERTIES TO
7/30/09 13:46:21 THE EAST.
7/30/09 13:46:23 THAT COMBINED WITH
7/30/09 13:46:26 THE ON SITE PARKING RESULTS IN
7/30/09 13:46:28 50 PARKING SPACES AND THE CODE
7/30/09 13:46:29 REQUIREMENT IS 48.
7/30/09 13:46:30 WE BELIEVE
7/30/09 13:46:32 THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL FACTOR THAT
7/30/09 13:46:34 SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN YOUR
7/30/09 13:46:36 REVIEW OF THIS PETITION.
7/30/09 13:46:39 THANK
7/30/09 13:46:42 YOU.
7/30/09 13:46:48 >> GOOD
7/30/09 13:46:51 AFTERNOON.
7/30/09 13:46:51 JUST TO
7/30/09 13:46:53 GIVE YOU BACKGROUND ABOUT
7/30/09 13:46:55 MYSELF, I AM I SPORTS ATTORNEY
7/30/09 13:46:58 IN TOWN AND REPRESENT ABOUT
7/30/09 13:46:59 40
7/30/09 13:47:00 PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL PLAYERS
7/30/09 13:47:02 AND I WAS AN ATTORNEY BEFORE
7/30/09 13:47:03 THAT FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS.
7/30/09 13:47:05 I
7/30/09 13:47:08 FORMED
7/30/09 13:47:11 TEN VENTURE HOLDINGS FOR
7/30/09 13:47:13 A SPORTS TAVERN.
7/30/09 13:47:14 IF APPROVED, I
7/30/09 13:47:17 WOULD FORM ON THE LINE SPORTS
7/30/09 13:47:19 TAVERN LLC.
7/30/09 13:47:22 I VISITED NUMEROUS
7/30/09 13:47:25 CITIES AND I'VE THOUGHT TAMPA
7/30/09 13:47:26 WAS LACKING IN THIS AREA.
7/30/09 13:47:28 WITH
7/30/09 13:47:31 ALL DUE RESPECT TO
7/30/09 13:47:35 THE PRESS
7/30/09 13:47:37 BOX, THIS PROJECT WILL BE A
7/30/09 13:47:39 DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE FOR SPORTS
7/30/09 13:47:41 FANS AND THE TAMPA BAY MARKET IN
7/30/09 13:47:41 GENERAL.
7/30/09 13:47:43 THIS IS A GREAT SPORTS
7/30/09 13:47:46 CITY AND I THOUGHT I COULD HELP
7/30/09 13:47:48 CELEBRATE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE
7/30/09 13:47:49 A GREAT SPORTS TOWN.
7/30/09 13:47:49 I THOUGHT
7/30/09 13:47:50 WE WERE LACKING IN THIS AREA.
7/30/09 13:47:53 WE WERE GOING TO DESIGN A VERY
7/30/09 13:47:55 SPECIFIC MENU WHICH WILL APPEAL
7/30/09 13:47:57 TO EVERYONE THAT LOVES GREAT
7/30/09 13:47:57 FOOD.
7/30/09 13:47:59 IT WILL BE SOMETHING
7/30/09 13:48:01 SPORTS FANS HAVE NEVER
7/30/09 13:48:02 EXPERIENCED IN THIS TOWN.
7/30/09 13:48:03 WE'LL
7/30/09 13:48:06 HAVE FLAT SCREENS THROUGHOUT AND
7/30/09 13:48:07 A COMFORTABLE ATMOSPHERE.
7/30/09 13:48:08 WE
7/30/09 13:48:10 HAVE THE HARD WORK AHEAD OF US.
7/30/09 13:48:13 WHEN WE STARTED THE PROJECT,
7/30/09 13:48:16 WHAT WE
7/30/09 13:48:18 DID WAS WE DEVELOPED AN
7/30/09 13:48:19 ORIGINAL SITE PLAN WITH THE
7/30/09 13:48:21 LAYOUT TO BE BEST FOR US.
7/30/09 13:48:21 WE
7/30/09 13:48:24 HAD OUTSIDE
7/30/09 13:48:26 COOLERS AND STORAGE
7/30/09 13:48:29 AND TRAFFIC FLOW
7/30/09 13:48:30 OFF OF KENNEDY.
7/30/09 13:48:33 WE HAD A DUMPSTER
7/30/09 13:48:34 AT 90 DEGREES
7/30/09 13:48:37 FROM THE BUILDING AND 20 SPACES
7/30/09 13:48:39 OVER THE PROPERTY SITUATED IN
7/30/09 13:48:39 DIFFERENT RESPECTS.
7/30/09 13:48:41 WE HAD A
7/30/09 13:48:44 BIG PATIO AREA WITH NOT MUCH
7/30/09 13:48:47 GREEN SPACE AND COMPLETELY OPEN.
7/30/09 13:48:49 AS WE BEGAN TO MEET WITH STAFF
7/30/09 13:48:51 AND MEET WITH SOME OF THE
7/30/09 13:48:52 NEIGHBORHOODS, WE BEGAN TO SEE
7/30/09 13:48:53 THAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE
7/30/09 13:48:55 CONCESSIONS TO MAKE THIS WORK
7/30/09 13:48:56 FOR EVERYONE.
7/30/09 13:48:57 WE CONTINUED OUR
7/30/09 13:48:59 HEARING RECENTLY OVER THE LAST
7/30/09 13:49:02 MONTH AND A HALF AND MET
7/30/09 13:49:02 WITH
7/30/09 13:49:05 THE NEIGHBORS AND WE MET WITH
7/30/09 13:49:06 SURROUNDING BUSINESS OWNERS.
7/30/09 13:49:09 SOME OF THE STUFF WE DID, WE
7/30/09 13:49:11 CHANGED THE INGRESS AND EGRESS
7/30/09 13:49:13 PATTERN, WHICH WAS A BIG THING
7/30/09 13:49:15 FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD
7/30/09 13:49:16 ASSOCIATION.
7/30/09 13:49:17 WHAT WE'LL DO NOW
7/30/09 13:49:20 IS WE WILL INGRESS INTO THE
7/30/09 13:49:22 ALLEY AND EGRESS OUT ON TO
7/30/09 13:49:23 KENNEDY.
7/30/09 13:49:25 ONE OF THE BIG THINGS
7/30/09 13:49:27 THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WAS
7/30/09 13:49:28 PEOPLE LEAVING THE PROPERTY AND
7/30/09 13:49:29 TURNING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
7/30/09 13:49:32 SO WHAT WE DID WAS CHANGED THAT
7/30/09 13:49:34 AROUND SO PEOPLE WOULD ACCESS
7/30/09 13:49:36 THE PROPERTY AND EXIT ON
7/30/09 13:49:36 KENNEDY.
7/30/09 13:49:39 >> COULD WE GO TO
7/30/09 13:49:42 THE OVERHEAD,
7/30/09 13:49:44 PLEASE?
7/30/09 13:49:45 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 13:49:48 >>
7/30/09 13:49:50 ACCESS VIA THE ALLEY AND
7/30/09 13:49:53 THEN EXIT THE PROPERTY ON TO
7/30/09 13:49:54 KENNEDY.
7/30/09 13:49:55 WHEN PEOPLE EXIT ON TO
7/30/09 13:49:58 KEN DID I RECOLLECT
7/30/09 13:50:00 NEDY --
7/30/09 13:50:02 KENNEDY, THEY WOULD
7/30/09 13:50:05 BE ACCESSING A MAJOR WAY.
7/30/09 13:50:06 THE
7/30/09 13:50:08 SECOND THING WAS WE TOTALLY
7/30/09 13:50:09 ENCLOSED THE BACK OF THE
7/30/09 13:50:10 BUILDING.
7/30/09 13:50:12 WE HAVE ADDED ON
7/30/09 13:50:15 FOOTPRINT TO ENCLOSE THE COOLER
7/30/09 13:50:17 ITSELF AS WELL AS THE STORAGE
7/30/09 13:50:17 AREA.
7/30/09 13:50:18 THERE WAS ANOTHER BIG
7/30/09 13:50:21 THING WE NEEDED TO DO FROM
7/30/09 13:50:23 A
7/30/09 13:50:24 NOISE REDUCTION STANDPOINT.
7/30/09 13:50:24 SO
7/30/09 13:50:26 THAT WAS SOMETHING IS THAT WE
7/30/09 13:50:28 DECIDED TO DO.
7/30/09 13:50:28 IT'S ENCLOSING
7/30/09 13:50:31 INSIDE OF THE --
7/30/09 13:50:32 ENCLOSING THE
7/30/09 13:50:34 INSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
7/30/09 13:50:38 EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENSEN
7/30/09 13:50:39 SIDE
7/30/09 13:50:40 --HAPPENS INSIDE OF THE
7/30/09 13:50:43 BUILDING WILL BE DONE INSIDE OF
7/30/09 13:50:44 THE BUILDING.
7/30/09 13:50:45 WE MOVED TO
7/30/09 13:50:48 DUMPSTER SO SANITATION
7/30/09 13:50:49 COULD GET
7/30/09 13:50:52 IN APPROPRIATELY AND REMOVE THE
7/30/09 13:50:52 GARBAGE.
7/30/09 13:50:54 WE GOT A PARKING
7/30/09 13:50:57 AGREEMENT, WHICH WAS TOUGH
7/30/09 13:50:58 TO DO
7/30/09 13:50:59 IN THAT AREA.
7/30/09 13:51:02 WE PROVIDED FOR
7/30/09 13:51:03 32 ADDITIONAL SPACES.
7/30/09 13:51:05 IT WAS 46
7/30/09 13:51:08 SPACES ORIGINALLY AND WE FELT
7/30/09 13:51:11 THE 32 SPACES WOULD HELP WITH
7/30/09 13:51:12 THE PARKING WAIVER.
7/30/09 13:51:13 WE PROVIDED
7/30/09 13:51:16 SUBSTANTIAL GREEN SPACE OVER BY
7/30/09 13:51:19 THE
7/30/09 13:51:21 PATIO AND SHRUNK THE PATIO
7/30/09 13:51:22 DOWN.
7/30/09 13:51:24 IT WAS TO GIVE IT A GOT
7/30/09 13:51:25 FEEL.
7/30/09 13:51:26 THAT'S SOMETHING WE DID.
7/30/09 13:51:27 WE
7/30/09 13:51:30 OFFERED TO PUT UP A FENCE ON
7/30/09 13:51:31 THE
7/30/09 13:51:33 RESIDENT'S PROPERTY SHAOELD FROM
7/30/09 13:51:35 ANY LIGHTS, NOSE, ANYTHING OF
7/30/09 13:51:36 THAT ANY HER.
7/30/09 13:51:37 WE WORKED --
7/30/09 13:51:37 NATURE.
7/30/09 13:51:40 WE WORKED EXTENSIVELY
7/30/09 13:51:42 WITH A NOISE REDUCTION PLAN AND
7/30/09 13:51:44 PRESENTED IT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD
7/30/09 13:51:47 ASSOCIATION AND ENCLOSED THE
7/30/09 13:51:47 PATIO ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY.
7/30/09 13:51:48 WE
7/30/09 13:51:51 HAVE A FULL WALL IN THE BACK OF
7/30/09 13:51:52 THE PATIO ITSELF, WHICH WILL
7/30/09 13:51:54 TAKE DOWN A LOT OF NOISE ON THE
7/30/09 13:51:54 BACKSIDE.
7/30/09 13:51:57 WE HAVE A THREE
7/30/09 13:52:00 QUARTER WALL AND WE HAVE A HALF
7/30/09 13:52:03 WALL TO KEEP IT OPEN TOWARDS
7/30/09 13:52:04 KENNEDY ITSELF.
7/30/09 13:52:04 SO THAT WOULD
7/30/09 13:52:07 BE THE FULL WALL THERE.
7/30/09 13:52:07 THAT'S
7/30/09 13:52:10 ACTUALLY THE BACK OF THE
7/30/09 13:52:10 PROPERTY ITSELF.
7/30/09 13:52:11 THEN YOU CAN
7/30/09 13:52:13 SEE THE THREE-QUARTER WALL ON
7/30/09 13:52:15 THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING
7/30/09 13:52:18 THAT WILL
7/30/09 13:52:19 BE FACING ARIWANA.
7/30/09 13:52:22 THE HALF WOULD BE ON THE FRONT.
7/30/09 13:52:24 SECURITY PERSONNEL WAS A BIG
7/30/09 13:52:24 CONCERN.
7/30/09 13:52:25 WE WILL ADDRESS THIS
7/30/09 13:52:28 LATER BUT WHAT WE TRIED TO DO
7/30/09 13:52:30 WAS TRIED TO PUT CONDITIONS IN.
7/30/09 13:52:33 IF THE CITY DOES IN FACT
7/30/09 13:52:36 APPROVE
7/30/09 13:52:39 THIS LICENSE, WE'RE WILLING TO
7/30/09 13:52:41 CERTAINLY CONCEDE TO AND THERE'S
7/30/09 13:52:43 SOME PRETTY EXTENSIVE THINGS
7/30/09 13:52:46 ABOUT SECURITY PERSONNEL AND
7/30/09 13:52:49 PARKING AND THAT NATURE.
7/30/09 13:52:50 WE
7/30/09 13:52:51 WILL HAVE COMMUNICATION WITH THE
7/30/09 13:52:54 NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF ON A YEARLY
7/30/09 13:52:56 BASIS AND GET FEEDBACK FROM
7/30/09 13:52:56 THEM.
7/30/09 13:52:58 AS EARLY AS THIS MORNING,
7/30/09 13:53:00 WE MET WITH THEM FOR THE THIRD
7/30/09 13:53:03 TIME AND CAME UP WITH A
7/30/09 13:53:06 CONDITION
7/30/09 13:53:08 FOR THE COPX LICENSE
7/30/09 13:53:10 WE'RE SEEKING TO ADDRESS ANY
7/30/09 13:53:12 CONCERNS THAT COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE
7/30/09 13:53:14 WITH THE APPLICATION.
7/30/09 13:53:14 WE HAVE
7/30/09 13:53:17 TRIED TO GO TO GREAT LENGTHS
7/30/09 13:53:19 WITH MEETING WITH NEIGHBORS AND
7/30/09 13:53:21 SENT THE RENDERINGS TO BUSINESS
7/30/09 13:53:22 OWNERS.
7/30/09 13:53:24 WE HAD A PETITION
7/30/09 13:53:27 CIRCULATING SIGNED BY 16 PEOPLE
7/30/09 13:53:30 ON A THREE-BLOCK RADIUS ON
7/30/09 13:53:34 THE
7/30/09 13:53:34 PROJECT.
7/30/09 13:53:36 THESE ARE IN YOUR
7/30/09 13:53:37 PACKET ITSELF.
7/30/09 13:53:39 THAT WILL BE THE
7/30/09 13:53:41 FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
7/30/09 13:53:41 AS YOU
7/30/09 13:53:44 CAN SEE, IF YOU WOULD REMOVE
7/30/09 13:53:47 THAT REAL QUICK, THAT'S THE HALF
7/30/09 13:53:49 WALL AND YOU'LL SEE THE FULL
7/30/09 13:53:51 WALL IN THE BACK.
7/30/09 13:53:51 THAT'S WHERE
7/30/09 13:53:54 IT WOULD BE CLOSEST TO THE
7/30/09 13:53:54 RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
7/30/09 13:53:55 THIS
7/30/09 13:53:58 IS THE SIDE VIEW OF THE
7/30/09 13:53:58 PATIO.
7/30/09 13:54:01 IT WOULD BE THE
7/30/09 13:54:03 VIEW FROM
7/30/09 13:54:03 DONALDSON.
7/30/09 13:54:04 THAT WOULD BILLION
7/30/09 13:54:05 THE PATIO ITSELF.
7/30/09 13:54:06 THIS IS THE
7/30/09 13:54:09 EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, WHICH
7/30/09 13:54:10 IS THE PARKING LOT.
7/30/09 13:54:11 THERE'S NO
7/30/09 13:54:14 ENTRANCES AND EXITS AT ALL
7/30/09 13:54:15 EXCEPT THROUGH THE FRONT.
7/30/09 13:54:18 THAT'S AN EMERGENCY EXIT THAT'S
7/30/09 13:54:18 THERE.
7/30/09 13:54:19 WE WOULD PROPOSE TO PUT
7/30/09 13:54:23 THAT ON SPORTS TAVERN ITSELF.
7/30/09 13:54:23 THAT'S THE BACK.
7/30/09 13:54:26 THAT'S THE
7/30/09 13:54:29 ENCLOSURE WE'RE PROPOSING TO
7/30/09 13:54:31 ENCLOSE THE COOLER AND THE
7/30/09 13:54:32 STORAGE FACILITY.
7/30/09 13:54:33 WE'LL HAVE
7/30/09 13:54:34 THE SINGLE DOOR THERE.
7/30/09 13:54:35 THIS IS
7/30/09 13:54:38 AN INSIDE RENDERING OF
7/30/09 13:54:39 THE
7/30/09 13:54:40 PROPOSED SITE.
7/30/09 13:54:41 WE'RE WORKING
7/30/09 13:54:44 WITH THE INTERIOR DESIGN
7/30/09 13:54:45 FIRM TO
7/30/09 13:54:48 BUILD OUT THE SPACE, WHICH LOOKS
7/30/09 13:54:51 VERY SIMILAR
7/30/09 13:54:53 TO THIS.
7/30/09 13:54:56 SO
7/30/09 13:54:59 COUNCIL KNOWS,
7/30/09 13:55:02 THESE ARE THE
7/30/09 13:55:04 LOCATIONS OF THE PEOPLE THAT
7/30/09 13:55:07 SIGN THE PETITION IN SUPPORT OF
7/30/09 13:55:07 THE PROJECT.
7/30/09 13:55:09 THEY ARE ALL
7/30/09 13:55:12 WITHIN A THREE-BLOCK RADIUS.
7/30/09 13:55:13 YOU CAN SEE THE PARKING
7/30/09 13:55:15 AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE HAD
7/30/09 13:55:18 WITHIN A BLOCK OF THE SITE AND
7/30/09 13:55:20 THEN THE 16 PEOPLE THAT HAVE
7/30/09 13:55:21 SIGNED THE PETITION IN SUPPORT
7/30/09 13:55:24 AND MR. ANDERSON CAN
7/30/09 13:55:25 SPEAK MORE
7/30/09 13:55:25 ABOUT THAT.
7/30/09 13:55:26 THAT'S IT.
7/30/09 13:55:26 IF YOU . THANK
7/30/09 13:55:29 YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
7/30/09 13:55:30 TIME.
7/30/09 13:55:30 >> GOOD
7/30/09 13:55:31 AFTERNOON.
7/30/09 13:55:33 I AM MIKE
7/30/09 13:55:33 RAZOR.
7/30/09 13:55:36 I AM A REGISTERED
7/30/09 13:55:37 PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER.
7/30/09 13:55:37 I'VE
7/30/09 13:55:39 BEEN SWORN.
7/30/09 13:55:42 I AM JUST UP HERE
7/30/09 13:55:45 TO BRIEFLY DISCUSS ONE OF THE
7/30/09 13:55:47 TPHAEURB'S CONCERN --NEIGHBOR'S
7/30/09 13:55:48 CONCERNS.
7/30/09 13:55:49 THAT WAS REGARDING
7/30/09 13:55:52 CUT THROUGH THROUGH THE
7/30/09 13:55:53 NEIGHBORHOOD IMMEDIATELY NORTH
7/30/09 13:55:54 OF THE SITE.
7/30/09 13:55:56 THE USE IS A
7/30/09 13:55:58 DESTINATION USE.
7/30/09 13:55:59 CUSTOMERS WILL
7/30/09 13:56:02 ACCESS THE SITE
7/30/09 13:56:03 RATHER THAN
7/30/09 13:56:04 CUTTING THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD.
7/30/09 13:56:07 IN REGARD TO THE PARKING LOT,
7/30/09 13:56:10 YOU HAVE HEARD TESTIMONY THAT WE
7/30/09 13:56:12 HAD CHANGED THE PATTERN WITHIN
7/30/09 13:56:15 THE PARKING LOT.
7/30/09 13:56:16 I THINK THAT'S
7/30/09 13:56:19 VERY IMPORTANT IN THAT WE'RE
7/30/09 13:56:21 FORCING VEHICLES TO LEAVE THE
7/30/09 13:56:24 SITE ON TO KENNEDY
7/30/09 13:56:24 BOULEVARD AND
7/30/09 13:56:27 IT'S MY EXPERIENCE THAT ONCE THE
7/30/09 13:56:30 MOTORIST ON ARE THE
7/30/09 13:56:31 MAJOR ROAD
7/30/09 13:56:34 NETWORK, THEY TEND TO STAY THERE
7/30/09 13:56:36 UNLESS MAJOR CONGESTION.
7/30/09 13:56:36 THAT
7/30/09 13:56:39 SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.
7/30/09 13:56:39 AGAIN,
7/30/09 13:56:41 THE VALLEY OPERATION WOULD OCCUR
7/30/09 13:56:44 WITHIN THAT PARKING LOT AS WELL.
7/30/09 13:56:46 EVERYONE THAT IS USING THE SITE
7/30/09 13:56:49 WOULD ACCESS THE SITE VIA IS
7/30/09 13:56:51 SIDE STREET AND LEAVE KENNEDY
7/30/09 13:56:51 BOULEVARD.
7/30/09 13:56:52 I WOULD BE HAPPEN
7/30/09 13:56:54 Y TO
7/30/09 13:56:56 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF THEY
7/30/09 13:56:56 COME UP.
7/30/09 13:56:59 >> JUST A WRAP UP, I
7/30/09 13:57:00 WANTED TO
7/30/09 13:57:03 --I GUESS THE OVERHEAD IS
7/30/09 13:57:03 NOT
7/30/09 13:57:05 WORKING --POINT OUT THAT WE
7/30/09 13:57:07 HAVE CONDITIONS WE'RE PREPARED
7/30/09 13:57:08 TO PLACE ON THE SITE PLAN
7/30/09 13:57:10 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING
7/30/09 13:57:13 IF THE COUNCIL SUPPORTS THE
7/30/09 13:57:14 PETITION.
7/30/09 13:57:17 THESE CONDITIONS WERE
7/30/09 13:57:20 ARRIVED AT A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS
7/30/09 13:57:22 WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
7/30/09 13:57:23 LET ME READ
7/30/09 13:57:25 THEM QUICKLY FOR YOU.
7/30/09 13:57:27 ONE IS
7/30/09 13:57:29 CONCERNING THE SECURITY.
7/30/09 13:57:29 ON
7/30/09 13:57:32 DAYS IN WHICH THE
7/30/09 13:57:34 BUSINESSES IS
7/30/09 13:57:36 SEPARATING, SECURITY PERSONNEL
7/30/09 13:57:37 SHALL MONITOR BUILDING AND
7/30/09 13:57:40 PROPERTY AREA BEGINNING AT 9:00
7/30/09 13:57:40 P.M.
7/30/09 13:57:42 AND CONCLUDING NO LESS THAN
7/30/09 13:57:45 30 MINUTES AFTER THE END OF
7/30/09 13:57:48 BUSINESS OPERATING HOURS.
7/30/09 13:57:52 SECURITY LIGHTING SO IT'S
7/30/09 13:57:53 REASONABLE LIT DURING THE NIGHT
7/30/09 13:57:53 HOURS.
7/30/09 13:57:55 THREE, THIS IS VERY
7/30/09 13:57:58 IMPORTANT, THERE WERE CONCERNS
7/30/09 13:57:59 ABOUT PARKING ON THEIR
7/30/09 13:58:01 PROPERTIES OR IN FRONT OF THEIR
7/30/09 13:58:03 PROPERTIES FOR THIS USE.
7/30/09 13:58:03 MY
7/30/09 13:58:06 CLIENTS AGREED TO
7/30/09 13:58:09 PROVIDE FREE
7/30/09 13:58:10 VALET SERVICE DURING BUSINESS
7/30/09 13:58:12 OPERATING HOURS.
7/30/09 13:58:13 THE SIGN ACT
7/30/09 13:58:15 WILL BE USED TO CORRECT
7/30/09 13:58:18 CUSTOMERS TO THE SITE AND
7/30/09 13:58:18 SHALL
7/30/09 13:58:20 BE LOCATED FACING KENNEDY
7/30/09 13:58:20 BOULEVARD.
7/30/09 13:58:23 THE OPERATION OF THE
7/30/09 13:58:26 VALET SERVICE IS P DROP OFF AND
7/30/09 13:58:29 PICK UP WILL BE ON PRIVATE
7/30/09 13:58:30 PROPERTY ONLY.
7/30/09 13:58:32 THEY WILL NOT
7/30/09 13:58:34 OBSTRUCT ANY CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY.
7/30/09 13:58:37 THEY WERE ADD BY YOUR STAFF,
7/30/09 13:58:40 THOSE LAST TWO SENTENCES AND I
7/30/09 13:58:43 INCLUDED THEM IN THESE
7/30/09 13:58:43 CONDITIONS.
7/30/09 13:58:46 NO RIGHT TURN SIGN
7/30/09 13:58:48 SHALL BE PLACED AT THE NORTH
7/30/09 13:58:49 EAST CORNER OF THE SUBJECT
7/30/09 13:58:49 PROPERTY.
7/30/09 13:58:51 IF YOU RECALL, ACCESS
7/30/09 13:58:54 TO THE PROPERTY IS BY WAY OF
7/30/09 13:58:54 THE
7/30/09 13:58:57 ALLEY, BEHIND THE SITE
7/30/09 13:58:58 TO THE
7/30/09 13:59:00 NORTH, PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED
7/30/09 13:59:03 ABOUT SOMEONE REVERSING THE
7/30/09 13:59:04 PARKING SPACE AND HEADING NORTH,
7/30/09 13:59:07 WHICH IS DIFFICULT
7/30/09 13:59:10 SINCE IT'S
7/30/09 13:59:12 DIAGONAL PARKING.
7/30/09 13:59:15 BUT WE AGREED
7/30/09 13:59:17 TO PLACE A NO-TURN SIGN.
7/30/09 13:59:18 IT
7/30/09 13:59:21 WILL BE LOCATED IN THIS AREA
7/30/09 13:59:21 HERE.
7/30/09 13:59:24 (CAPTIONER IS MAKING
7/30/09 13:59:25 TRANSITION)


7/30/09 14:00:54 >>> CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT
7/30/09 14:00:54 THE
7/30/09 14:00:55 BUSINESS IS NOW?
7/30/09 14:00:58 >> IT WAS AN AFTER HOURS
7/30/09 14:00:59 PEDIATRIC CARE FACILITY, ONE TO
7/30/09 14:01:01 HAVE HIGHEST USE FACILITIES FOR
7/30/09 14:01:04 CG THAT THERE
7/30/09 14:01:04 IS.
7/30/09 14:01:05 >> I'VE BEEN THERE.
7/30/09 14:01:08 AND ALSO I WAS WONDERING IF THE
7/30/09 14:01:10 FOOTPRINT, IS THAT FOR THE
7/30/09 14:01:13 PROPERTY OR
7/30/09 14:01:13 THE BUILDING?
7/30/09 14:01:16 >> NO, THE FOOT
7/30/09 14:01:19 FOOT FOOTPRINT
7/30/09 14:01:22 IS FOR THE BUILDING ITS WHERE
7/30/09 14:01:25 IT WOULD BE SERVED.
7/30/09 14:01:25 >> THANKS.
7/30/09 14:01:25 >> SURE.
7/30/09 14:01:28 >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR
7/30/09 14:01:28 YOUR
7/30/09 14:01:29 TRANSPORTATION PERSON.
7/30/09 14:01:30 AND IT IS ABOUT THE FACT THAT
7/30/09 14:01:33 YOU ARE ASKING FOR
7/30/09 14:01:36 AN X
7/30/09 14:01:37 WHICH I
7/30/09 14:01:39 THINK BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN BE
7/30/09 14:01:40 STANDING UP MORE ALLOWS MORE
7/30/09 14:01:42 PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING AND THEN
7/30/09 14:01:43 ALLOWS MORE CARS TO BE THERE.
7/30/09 14:01:45 WHAT I HAVE HEARD IS THIS IS
7/30/09 14:01:48 GOING TO BE REALLY
7/30/09 14:01:48 LOVELY AND
7/30/09 14:01:51 POP ALREADY LAR AND ATTRACT
7/30/09 14:01:51 MORE PEOPLE.
7/30/09 14:01:54 I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER YOU ARE
7/30/09 14:01:54 UNDER OATH.
7/30/09 14:01:55 >> FAIR ENOUGH.
7/30/09 14:01:56 >> DO YOU THINK THE PARKING
7/30/09 14:01:58 SPACES YOU ARE PROVIDING ARE
7/30/09 14:02:00 GOING TO ADEQUATELY SERVE YOUR
7/30/09 14:02:00 CUSTOMERS?
7/30/09 14:02:03 >> MY ROLE IN THE PROJECT
7/30/09 14:02:05 WASN'T SPECIFIC TO PARKING
7/30/09 14:02:06 HOWEVER, MY UNDERSTANDING OF
7/30/09 14:02:07 THE OPERATING PLAN IS THAT THE
7/30/09 14:02:10 FOLKS WILL BE PROVIDED THE FREE
7/30/09 14:02:12 VALET SERVICE WHICH BASED ON MY
7/30/09 14:02:14 UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THAT IS
7/30/09 14:02:15 GOING TO OPERATE WILL
7/30/09 14:02:17 ADEQUATELY PROVIDE FOR PATRONS
7/30/09 14:02:18 AT THE SITE.
7/30/09 14:02:19 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 14:02:21 >> THROUGH THE VALLEY SERVICE.
7/30/09 14:02:23 >> --VALET SERVICE.
7/30/09 14:02:25 >> SO MAYBE THE QUESTION IS
7/30/09 14:02:25 BACK TO THE PETITIONER.
7/30/09 14:02:28 ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE THE VALET
7/30/09 14:02:29 SERVICE BE ABLE TO USE
7/30/09 14:02:31 ADDITIONAL PARKING TO THE 40
7/30/09 14:02:32 SOME ODD SPACES YOU HAVE
7/30/09 14:02:35 IDENTIFIED TO US TO
7/30/09 14:02:35 ACCOMMODATE
7/30/09 14:02:38 ALL THE POPULAR PEOPLE WHO ARE
7/30/09 14:02:38 COMING.
7/30/09 14:02:39 >> THAT'S RIGHT.
7/30/09 14:02:40 BASICALLY WE HAVE THE 18 SPOTS
7/30/09 14:02:43 ON SITE WHICH WE WILL NOT
7/30/09 14:02:45 USE
7/30/09 14:02:46 AS VALET.
7/30/09 14:02:48 THE SPITE WILL BE VALET ONLY
7/30/09 14:02:50 WHICH MEANS WE WILL FORCE VALET
7/30/09 14:02:51 SOMETHING THE NEIGHBOURHOOD
7/30/09 14:02:52 WANTED US TO DO.
7/30/09 14:02:55 THAT IS 22 SPOTS HE HAS.
7/30/09 14:02:57 SUN COAT HAS 10 SPOTS AVAILABLE
7/30/09 14:02:59 FOR VALET OR PARKING ITSELF
7/30/09 14:03:01 THAT GIVES US 50 SPACES.
7/30/09 14:03:04 I DON'T KNOW PERSONALLY FROM A
7/30/09 14:03:05 PARKING STAND POINT, WE JUST
7/30/09 14:03:08 WENT BY THE NUMBERS THE
7/30/09 14:03:09 TRANSPORTATION STAFF I THOUGHT
7/30/09 14:03:09 --
7/30/09 14:03:11 >> YES, MA'AM I UNDERSTAND.
7/30/09 14:03:14 >> WHAT WE REQUIRE IS
7/30/09 14:03:15 ONE SPACE
7/30/09 14:03:17 FOR EVERY FOUR CHAIRS.
7/30/09 14:03:20 WHICH ASSUMES THE
7/30/09 14:03:20 PEOPLE ARE
7/30/09 14:03:22 REALLY SUSTAIN BRING MINDED AND
7/30/09 14:03:25 DRIVE FOUR TO
7/30/09 14:03:26 A CAR.
7/30/09 14:03:28 THE REALLY OUT OF FOUR CHAIRS
7/30/09 14:03:29 YOU WILL GET THREE CARS.
7/30/09 14:03:31 THEREFORE WHAT WE REQUIRE IS AN
7/30/09 14:03:33 UNDER ESTIMATE OF WHAT YOU
7/30/09 14:03:34 REALLY NEED.
7/30/09 14:03:36 EVEN WHAT YOU REALLY NEED Y'ALL
7/30/09 14:03:37 ARE PROVIDING LESS THAN THAT.
7/30/09 14:03:40 THAT IS MY CONCERN.
7/30/09 14:03:41 >> MY ANTICIPATION IS ONCE
7/30/09 14:03:44 PEOPLE SEE WHAT THE PROJECT
7/30/09 14:03:44 IS
7/30/09 14:03:45 SPECIFICALLY LIKE ROSE
7/30/09 14:03:46 RADIOLOGY RIGHT NEXT DOOR,
7/30/09 14:03:48 THERE IS OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS
7/30/09 14:03:51 THAT WE WORKED WITH THAT WERE
7/30/09 14:03:52 HESITANT TO ENTER IN UNTIL THEY
7/30/09 14:03:54 SAW WHAT WE WERE DOING.
7/30/09 14:03:55 ONCE THEY SEE WHAT THE PROJECT
7/30/09 14:03:57 IS, SEE IT IS UPSCALE, IT IS
7/30/09 14:04:00 GOING TO BE A POSITIVE THING
7/30/09 14:04:01 FOR KENNEDY BOULEVARD CORRIDOR,
7/30/09 14:04:02 THEY WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
7/30/09 14:04:02 US.
7/30/09 14:04:04 IF WE NEED ADDITIONAL SPOTS WE
7/30/09 14:04:07 WILL GO TO IT AND GET MORE
7/30/09 14:04:07 SPOTS.
7/30/09 14:04:10 WE TRY TO EXCEED
7/30/09 14:04:10 FROM A
7/30/09 14:04:12 MITIGATION STAND POINT WHAT WE
7/30/09 14:04:13 ARE REQUIRED TO DO.
7/30/09 14:04:16 >> YOU HAVE A LET'S SEE HOW
7/30/09 14:04:17 THIS THING EVOLVES THING.
7/30/09 14:04:20 ONE OPTION AVAILABLE TO YOU
7/30/09 14:04:20 AS
7/30/09 14:04:22 PETITION INNER OF COUNCIL
7/30/09 14:04:25 SKEPTICAL OF APROJECT IS
7/30/09 14:04:26 ASK
7/30/09 14:04:27 FOR ADDITIONAL APPROVAL THAT
7/30/09 14:04:29 SAYS LET'S COME BACK IN A YEAR
7/30/09 14:04:32 AND SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE
7/30/09 14:04:33 HAPPY ABOUT THIS.
7/30/09 14:04:36 I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT
7/30/09 14:04:39 OUT
7/30/09 14:04:39 THERE.
7/30/09 14:04:41 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 14:04:41 ANYTHING ELSE?
7/30/09 14:04:43 >> ANYONE MAY COME FORWARD AT
7/30/09 14:04:43 THIS TIME.
7/30/09 14:04:46 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO
7/30/09 14:04:48 ADDRESS COUNCIL COME FORWARD,
7/30/09 14:04:49 STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
7/30/09 14:04:52 >> MY NAME IS
7/30/09 14:04:53 JOHN BRIGS.
7/30/09 14:04:55 I REPRESENT A STREET HOMEOWNERS
7/30/09 14:04:56 AGAINST THIS ADDITION.
7/30/09 14:04:58 THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.
7/30/09 14:04:59 WE ARE NOT SO FANCY.
7/30/09 14:05:01 WE LIVE IN THE AREA.
7/30/09 14:05:04 WE ARE NOT HAPPY
7/30/09 14:05:05 WITH THE
7/30/09 14:05:06 PROPOSED BAR THAT THEY ARE
7/30/09 14:05:09 TRYING TO ADD TO OUR
7/30/09 14:05:09 NEIGHBOURHOOD.
7/30/09 14:05:11 YOU GUYS HAVE ALL, COUNCIL
7/30/09 14:05:13 MEMBERS, I BELIEVE RECEIVED
7/30/09 14:05:15 THIS PACKET THAT I BRING TO YOU
7/30/09 14:05:16 ON MONDAY MORNING.
7/30/09 14:05:17 THIS IS SUBSTANTIAL IN ITSELF.
7/30/09 14:05:20 THIS IS NOT A FANCY SLIDE
7/30/09 14:05:21 SHOW.
7/30/09 14:05:24 THIS IS
7/30/09 14:05:26 JUST ME, AS HE DID
7/30/09 14:05:28 POINT OUT THERE WERE ONLY A FEW
7/30/09 14:05:29 PEOPLE AT THE MEETING.
7/30/09 14:05:32 BUT THEY GAVE ME THEIR
7/30/09 14:05:32 PROXY.
7/30/09 14:05:33 I SPEAK FOR 40 PLUS PEOPLE.
7/30/09 14:05:35 THE ROOM IS FULL REALLY NOT
7/30/09 14:05:37 JUST ME AND MY FEW CLOSE
7/30/09 14:05:37 NEIGHBORS.
7/30/09 14:05:40 NONE OF US ARE VERY HAPPY
7/30/09 14:05:40 WITH
7/30/09 14:05:40 THIS.
7/30/09 14:05:42 YES WE HAVE MET WITH THEM THEY
7/30/09 14:05:44 HAVE DONE A LOT TOWARDS WORKING
7/30/09 14:05:47 TOWARDS WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER
7/30/09 14:05:48 ACCEPTABLE, BARRING ANY OTHER
7/30/09 14:05:51 TERM IF THE COUNCIL SEES FIT
7/30/09 14:05:52 TOT ORS THIS DOWN OUR THROATS
7/30/09 14:05:54 THEN YES, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO
7/30/09 14:05:56 WORK WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY
7/30/09 14:05:56 HAVE WON.
7/30/09 14:05:58 WE HAVE DONE OUR DUTY TO OUR
7/30/09 14:06:00 FAMILIES AND CHILDREN AND TRIED
7/30/09 14:06:03 TO KEEP IT OUT
7/30/09 14:06:04 OF OUR
7/30/09 14:06:04 NEIGHBOURHOOD.
7/30/09 14:06:07 THERE ARE 40 SIGNATURES
7/30/09 14:06:07 AND 48
7/30/09 14:06:07 CHILDREN.
7/30/09 14:06:10 I HAVE SIX
7/30/09 14:06:11 MYSELF.
7/30/09 14:06:14 THE PETITION FOR
7/30/09 14:06:15 THIS PROPOSED
7/30/09 14:06:15 CHANGE.
7/30/09 14:06:15 >> SIR.
7/30/09 14:06:17 >> 23 DOWN TO A FIVE.
7/30/09 14:06:20 THREE OF THEM SERVING IN THE
7/30/09 14:06:22 MILITARY JUST LIKE THEIR DADDY.
7/30/09 14:06:25 THEY ALL LIVE
7/30/09 14:06:26 WELL BEYOND THESE
7/30/09 14:06:27 16 PROPOSED LIVE WAY THE HELL
7/30/09 14:06:29 OUT OF THIS AREA.
7/30/09 14:06:31 WE LIVE ON A STREET.
7/30/09 14:06:32 WE ARE THERE.
7/30/09 14:06:34 WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR YEARS
7/30/09 14:06:37 TO CLEAN UP THE A
7/30/09 14:06:39 STREET AREA.
7/30/09 14:06:41 WE HAVE GOT THE QUOTE NIGHT
7/30/09 14:06:41 PEOPLE CONTAINED.
7/30/09 14:06:43 WE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.
7/30/09 14:06:45 I REALIZE THEY ARE COMING
7/30/09 14:06:47 AROUND, NOT COMING DIRECTLY
7/30/09 14:06:47 INTO OUR NEIGHBOURHOODS.
7/30/09 14:06:49 I USED TO DRINK.
7/30/09 14:06:51 WHEN I DRANK, IF I WAS GETTING
7/30/09 14:06:54 IN MY VEHICLE, I AM NOT GOING
7/30/09 14:06:54 ON KENNEDY.
7/30/09 14:06:56 I WILL BACK UP, TURN AROUND,
7/30/09 14:06:58 BONK INTO CARS AND GET THE HELL
7/30/09 14:07:00 AWAY FROM WHERE I THINK THE
7/30/09 14:07:00 POLICE ARE.
7/30/09 14:07:03 THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE
7/30/09 14:07:04 WILL DO.
7/30/09 14:07:05 WE HAVE PEOPLE ZIPPING DOWN A
7/30/09 14:07:08 STREET THE GET TO THE
7/30/09 14:07:10 BYPASS
7/30/09 14:07:10 FOR KENNEDY.
7/30/09 14:07:11 WE DO NOT WANT ALCOHOL ADDED TO
7/30/09 14:07:13 THE SITUATION AND MORE TRAFFIC.
7/30/09 14:07:15 SEVERAL PEOPLE TAKE A STREET AS
7/30/09 14:07:15 A BYPASS.
7/30/09 14:07:18 IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE LIKE BUT
7/30/09 14:07:18 IT HAPPENS.
7/30/09 14:07:20 WE ARE OPPOSED TO THIS.
7/30/09 14:07:23 WE HAVE SEVERAL,
7/30/09 14:07:24 SEVERAL PEOPLE
7/30/09 14:07:26 THAT I --THE PEOPLE ON THIS
7/30/09 14:07:29 LIST SOME OF THEM LIKE MYSELF
7/30/09 14:07:30 OWN SIX OR EIGHT, 10 HOUSES IN
7/30/09 14:07:31 THE AREA.
7/30/09 14:07:34 THERE IS A LOT OF SUBSTANTIAL
7/30/09 14:07:35 WEIGHT IN HOMEOWNER SHIP IN
7/30/09 14:07:35 THIS PETITION.
7/30/09 14:07:37 THIS IS NOT SOMETHING LIGHT.
7/30/09 14:07:38 MAYBE ONE OTHER PERSON WHO
7/30/09 14:07:40 WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING
7/30/09 14:07:42 THAT IS PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE.
7/30/09 14:07:43 ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
7/30/09 14:07:44 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 14:07:45 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 14:07:47 >> WHERE DO YOU LIVE?
7/30/09 14:07:49 >> DIRECTLY BEHIND THE
7/30/09 14:07:49 ESTABLISHMENT.
7/30/09 14:07:51 I LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND --I AM
7/30/09 14:07:53 A LEFT OVER --MY FAMILY IS A
7/30/09 14:07:56 LEFT OVER AS WELL
7/30/09 14:07:57 AS MR. SAP
7/30/09 14:07:59 HERE FROM RENEE IF YOU ARE
7/30/09 14:08:00 FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
7/30/09 14:08:03 WE HAD QUITE AN ISSUE FOR YEAR
7/30/09 14:08:03 S WITH THAT.
7/30/09 14:08:03 >> SWIMMING POOL.
7/30/09 14:08:06 >> THAT WAS DIRECTLY
7/30/09 14:08:07 BEHIND MY
7/30/09 14:08:07 PROPERTY.
7/30/09 14:08:10 I LIVE 37 FEET FROM
7/30/09 14:08:11 THE
7/30/09 14:08:11 PROPOSED ESTABLISHMENT.
7/30/09 14:08:13 MR. SAP LIVES 21 OR 22 AND
7/30/09 14:08:14 ANOTHER PERSON WHO IS NOT HERE
7/30/09 14:08:18 TODAY BUT IS ON THIS
7/30/09 14:08:18 PETITION,
7/30/09 14:08:19 OWNS THAT WHOLE TWO STORY UNIT
7/30/09 14:08:21 AND HE IS OPPOSED TO IT.
7/30/09 14:08:23 EVERYBODY AND NANCY HENDERSON
7/30/09 14:08:25 WAS AT THE MEETING THIS
7/30/09 14:08:27 MORNING, SHE IS ON THE OTHER
7/30/09 14:08:29 SIDE AND OPPOSED TO IT.
7/30/09 14:08:30 EVERYONE UP AND DOWN THE STREET
7/30/09 14:08:32 WE DO NOT WANT IT.
7/30/09 14:08:34 WE DON'T WANT IT THEY SHOULDN'T
7/30/09 14:08:34 BE THERE.
7/30/09 14:08:36 I DON'T CARE HOW PRETTY YOU
7/30/09 14:08:37 WANT TO MAKE TAMPA.
7/30/09 14:08:38 HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE IT
7/30/09 14:08:41 ON YOUR STREET AT THE END OF
7/30/09 14:08:43 YOUR BLOCK, YOU WOULD BE UP
7/30/09 14:08:44 HERE JUST LIKE ME SAYING WHAT
7/30/09 14:08:45 THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING.
7/30/09 14:08:46 WE HAVE KIDS HERE.
7/30/09 14:08:49 IF THEY WANT IT DOWN IN SEW
7/30/09 14:08:51 HOE, PUT IT THERE.
7/30/09 14:08:52 SPEAKING WITH HIM HE DOESN'T
7/30/09 14:08:55 WANT IT HERE
7/30/09 14:08:55 EITHER.
7/30/09 14:08:57 EVERY BODY WANTS TO DRINK AND
7/30/09 14:08:59 CAB IN AND HAVE A GOOD TIME AND
7/30/09 14:08:59 CAB OUT.
7/30/09 14:09:01 WE JUST DON'T WANT IT ON OUR
7/30/09 14:09:02 BLOCK PEOPLE.
7/30/09 14:09:04 ALL RIGHT.
7/30/09 14:09:07 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 14:09:10 >> THANK
7/30/09 14:09:10 YOU.
7/30/09 14:09:13 >> I
7/30/09 14:09:14 AM WALTER CRUMBLY.
7/30/09 14:09:16 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
7/30/09 14:09:19 AND AS YOU KNOW,
7/30/09 14:09:21 I AM THE
7/30/09 14:09:23 PRESIDENT OF COURIER CITY
7/30/09 14:09:23 HOMEOWNERS GROUP.
7/30/09 14:09:26 I AM HERE BECAUSE WE GOT A
7/30/09 14:09:26 PERIPHERAL NOTICE.
7/30/09 14:09:29 THEY DON'T HAVE A HOMEOWNERS
7/30/09 14:09:29 ASSOCIATION.
7/30/09 14:09:31 I WAS THE ONE THAT GOT THE
7/30/09 14:09:31 NOTICE.
7/30/09 14:09:33 I THOUGHT I WOULD TALK WITH
7/30/09 14:09:35 JOHN BRIGS SEVERAL TIMES AND I
7/30/09 14:09:38 WOULD COME DOWN AND SHARE SOME
7/30/09 14:09:39 OF MY EXPERIENCES.
7/30/09 14:09:42 CITY CODE PROVIDES A THOUSAND
7/30/09 14:09:44 FOOT SEPARATION BETWEEN
7/30/09 14:09:46 RESIDENCES, OTHER ALCOHOL
7/30/09 14:09:50 BUSINESSES, AND THAT'S THERE
7/30/09 14:09:51 FOR A REASON.
7/30/09 14:09:51 OBVIOUSLY.
7/30/09 14:09:53 WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO 22 FEET,
7/30/09 14:09:56 MAN, IT IS IN
7/30/09 14:09:57 YOUR FACE.
7/30/09 14:09:59 I DON'T CARE HOW HIGH THEY
7/30/09 14:10:02 BUILD THAT WALL, I
7/30/09 14:10:04 AM TELLING
7/30/09 14:10:06 YOU, 800 FEET FROM MY BACKYARD,
7/30/09 14:10:08 I GO OUT THERE ON SUNDAY
7/30/09 14:10:10 AFTERNOON AND THE GAMES ARE
7/30/09 14:10:12 PLAYING AND PEOPLE ARE HOWLING
7/30/09 14:10:14 AND SINGING AND IT IS JUST LIKE
7/30/09 14:10:16 IT IS IN MY BACKYARD.
7/30/09 14:10:18 SO I AM TELLING YOU WALLS
7/30/09 14:10:19 AREN'T GOING TO CUT IT.
7/30/09 14:10:22 YOU GO OUT THERE AND
7/30/09 14:10:25 LOOK AT
7/30/09 14:10:25 THE THEATRE.
7/30/09 14:10:27 ALSO, THEIR NEIGHBOURHOOD IS
7/30/09 14:10:27 NOT BLESSED.
7/30/09 14:10:28 AS YOU WERE KIND ENOUGH TO GIVE
7/30/09 14:10:30 US WITH A RESIDENT ONLY PARKING
7/30/09 14:10:32 THING SO SOME BODY TURNS IN,
7/30/09 14:10:34 THERE IS A LINE AT THE VALET
7/30/09 14:10:36 PLACE, THEY JUST GO AROUND THE
7/30/09 14:10:38 CORNER AND PARK IN FRONT OF
7/30/09 14:10:41 JOHN'S HOUSE AND EVERYBODY
7/30/09 14:10:41 ELSE'S HOUSE.
7/30/09 14:10:43 EVEN IF THEY DON'T, THEY WILL
7/30/09 14:10:46 BE CUTTING UP AND DOWN
7/30/09 14:10:47 THE
7/30/09 14:10:50 ALLIES BECAUSE THE PARKING
7/30/09 14:10:52 AREAS ARE ON THE ALLEYS, SO YOU
7/30/09 14:10:55 ARE GOING TO GET A LOT OF ALLEY
7/30/09 14:10:58 TRAFFIC GOING UP
7/30/09 14:10:59 AND DOWN
7/30/09 14:11:00 BEHIND RESIDENCE.
7/30/09 14:11:03 KEEP IN MIND WHEN YOU
7/30/09 14:11:03 START
7/30/09 14:11:04 SERVING LIQUOR ESPECIALLY, BUT
7/30/09 14:11:06 WINE AND BEER TO SOME EXTENT,
7/30/09 14:11:09 YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE PARKING
7/30/09 14:11:12 ISSUES, NOISE
7/30/09 14:11:14 ISSUES, TRAFFIC
7/30/09 14:11:15 ISSUES, AND VANDALISM.
7/30/09 14:11:17 EVERYBODY WE FOUND WHEN THEY
7/30/09 14:11:20 LEFT THE BARS BEFORE WE HAD
7/30/09 14:11:20 RESIDENT ONLY PARKING, WOULD
7/30/09 14:11:23 WALK THROUGH
7/30/09 14:11:24 OUR NEIGHBOURHOOD,
7/30/09 14:11:26 LITERALLY, DESTROYING IT WITH
7/30/09 14:11:29 DRINK CUPS AND BEER BOTTLES
7/30/09 14:11:29 AND
7/30/09 14:11:32 PLATES AND
7/30/09 14:11:33 HALF EATEN FOOD AND
7/30/09 14:11:36 GARMENTS AND ANYTHING ELSE
7/30/09 14:11:37 YOU
7/30/09 14:11:39 CAN THINK OF.
7/30/09 14:11:42 JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE ONE PLACE
7/30/09 14:11:45 OR TWO PLACES OR FOUR
7/30/09 14:11:45 PLACES
7/30/09 14:11:48 THAT SERVE LIQUOR, DOESN'T MEAN
7/30/09 14:11:49 MORE IS BETTER.
7/30/09 14:11:51 YOU KNOW, GO BACK TO THAT
7/30/09 14:11:52 THOUSAND FOOT RULE.
7/30/09 14:11:54 THERE IS A REASON FOR THAT,
7/30/09 14:11:56 OBVIOUSLY, WHEN YOU ALL WROTE
7/30/09 14:11:58 THE CODE, TO KIND OF SPREAD THE
7/30/09 14:11:59 WEALTH AROUND A LITTLE BIT
7/30/09 14:12:02 INSTEAD OF HAVING IT LIKE WE'VE
7/30/09 14:12:04 GOT IN SOHO JAMMED INTO A THREE
7/30/09 14:12:07 BLOCK AREA.
7/30/09 14:12:10 SO THINK
7/30/09 14:12:10 ABOUT THAT.
7/30/09 14:12:11 ABSOLUTELY, IF YOU JUST GOT TO
7/30/09 14:12:14 GIVE THIS GUY A LICENSE,
7/30/09 14:12:15 THEN
7/30/09 14:12:18 MAY I SUGGEST YOU CONSIDER
7/30/09 14:12:20 A
7/30/09 14:12:22 LIMITATION ON HOURS.
7/30/09 14:12:25 SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY
7/30/09 14:12:25 NIGHT,
7/30/09 14:12:27 STOP SERVING AT 11:00 P.M., FRY
7/30/09 14:12:29 DAY AND SATURDAY GO TO 1:00
7/30/09 14:12:29 A.M.
7/30/09 14:12:31 BUT --FRIDAY AND SATURDAY GO
7/30/09 14:12:32 TO 1:00 A.M.
7/30/09 14:12:33 BUT NONE OF THIS 3:00 A.M.
7/30/09 14:12:34 IN THE MORNING STUFF BECAUSE IT
7/30/09 14:12:36 WILL BE FOUR IN THE MORNING
7/30/09 14:12:39 BEFORE THEY ARE OUT
7/30/09 14:12:39 OF THE
7/30/09 14:12:40 NEIGHBOURHOOD THANK YOU VERY
7/30/09 14:12:43 MUCH I LOOK FORWARD
7/30/09 14:12:45 TO YOUR
7/30/09 14:12:45 DECISION.
7/30/09 14:12:47 >> HI I AM KENNY ANDERSON I
7/30/09 14:12:49 ALSO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBOURHOOD.
7/30/09 14:12:50 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
7/30/09 14:12:54 MY ADDRESS IS
7/30/09 14:12:56 --SORRY.
7/30/09 14:12:56 OVERHEAD?
7/30/09 14:12:59 MY ADDRESS IS 2705
7/30/09 14:13:00 NORTH B
7/30/09 14:13:03 STREET WHICH IS MAPPED
7/30/09 14:13:05 OUT
7/30/09 14:13:05 RIGHT HERE.
7/30/09 14:13:07 IN RELATION TO THE AS THE CROW
7/30/09 14:13:10 FLIES LESS THAN A TENTH OF A
7/30/09 14:13:12 MILE WALKING ABOUT TWO BLOCKS.
7/30/09 14:13:15 I AM HERE
7/30/09 14:13:16 SUPPORTING THE
7/30/09 14:13:17 RESTAURANT.
7/30/09 14:13:19 I AM ACTUALLY EXCITED.
7/30/09 14:13:20 MY WIFE IS EXCITED WITH MY KIDS
7/30/09 14:13:22 WE ARE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO IN
7/30/09 14:13:24 THE AFTERNOON WALK UP AND GET
7/30/09 14:13:27 SOME CHICKEN FINGERS AND WATCH
7/30/09 14:13:28 A SPORTING EVENT.
7/30/09 14:13:31 AS FAR AS THE
7/30/09 14:13:32 PETITION IS
7/30/09 14:13:34 CONCERNED I KNOW MR. BRIGS
7/30/09 14:13:36 SUGGESTED IT MAY HAVE BEEN
7/30/09 14:13:37 SELECTIVE PETITIONING.
7/30/09 14:13:39 I HAVE WALKED UP EVERY SINGLE
7/30/09 14:13:42 STREET, I HAD
7/30/09 14:13:45 TWO NOs.
7/30/09 14:13:47 EVERYBODY ELSE WHO ANSWERED
7/30/09 14:13:48 THEIR DOOR WAS EXCITED.
7/30/09 14:13:50 I HOPE ALL THE CONCERNS OF THE
7/30/09 14:13:52 COUNCIL AND TRAFFIC HAVE BEEN
7/30/09 14:13:55 ADDRESSED BY MR. ABBOT AND
7/30/09 14:13:55 I
7/30/09 14:13:58 LOOK FORWARD TO BEING
7/30/09 14:14:02 IN THIS
7/30/09 14:14:02 NEIGHBOURHOOD.
7/30/09 14:14:05 MUCH BETTER
7/30/09 14:14:07 THAN A MASSAGE BAR
7/30/09 14:14:10 OR STRIP
7/30/09 14:14:10 CLUB.
7/30/09 14:14:11 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 14:14:13 >> ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC?
7/30/09 14:14:15 ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC?
7/30/09 14:14:17 DOES THE ATTORNEY WANT TO
7/30/09 14:14:17 SPEAK?
7/30/09 14:14:20 >> COULD YOU TAKE THE PICTURES
7/30/09 14:14:20 DOWN?
7/30/09 14:14:23 >> I CAN'T
7/30/09 14:14:24 ...
7/30/09 14:14:24 >> SORRY.
7/30/09 14:14:27 >> REBECCA,
7/30/09 14:14:30 LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
7/30/09 14:14:33 AS MR. MARCHETTI WE
7/30/09 14:14:34 HAVE AN
7/30/09 14:14:35 OBJECTION TO CONDITION EIGHT
7/30/09 14:14:37 REQUIRING THE OWNER OPERATOR
7/30/09 14:14:40 SUBMIT THEIR CONTACT
7/30/09 14:14:45 INFORMATION TO THE OWNERS
7/30/09 14:14:45 ASSOCIATION.
7/30/09 14:14:47 WE DON'T USE A SPECIAL PROCESS
7/30/09 14:14:50 THE DEAL WITH THIRD PARTY
7/30/09 14:14:50 AGREEMENTS.
7/30/09 14:14:53 THAT IS NOT
7/30/09 14:14:53 APPROPRIATE.
7/30/09 14:14:55 MISS COLE HAD A STATEMENT TO
7/30/09 14:14:57 MAKE AND BEFORE WE GET TO
7/30/09 14:15:00 REBUTTAL YOU HAVE NOT HEARD
7/30/09 14:15:01 FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT YET.
7/30/09 14:15:02 >> IN LISTENING TO THE
7/30/09 14:15:04 CONVERSATION, ON ONE OF THE
7/30/09 14:15:06 ISSUES RELATES TO THE PARKING
7/30/09 14:15:07 WAIVER REQUESTED.
7/30/09 14:15:09 JUST SO I CAN MAKE CLEAR
7/30/09 14:15:11 LEGALLY WHERE YOU HAVE TO DEAL
7/30/09 14:15:13 --HOW YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH
7/30/09 14:15:13 THE PARKING WAIVER.
7/30/09 14:15:16 THERE IS A
7/30/09 14:15:17 WAIVER REQUEST FROM
7/30/09 14:15:20 48 SPACES TO 18 SPACES
7/30/09 14:15:21 AND THE
7/30/09 14:15:22 PETITIONER INDICATED THEY HAVE
7/30/09 14:15:24 AGREEMENT FOR PURPOSES OF VALET
7/30/09 14:15:25 PARKING AND OTHER OFF SITE
7/30/09 14:15:28 PARKING TO BRING HIS TOTALS IN
7/30/09 14:15:30 THEORY UP TO 50 PARKING SPACES.
7/30/09 14:15:33 THE WAY YOUR CODE READS AND
7/30/09 14:15:36 WHAT THE REQUIREMENT IS TO HAVE
7/30/09 14:15:37 YOUR PARKING SPACES ON SITE.
7/30/09 14:15:40 AND I BELIEVE IT IS
7/30/09 14:15:41 REQUIRED 48
7/30/09 14:15:41 PARKING SPACES.
7/30/09 14:15:44 IN THIS CASE, THERE IS A
7/30/09 14:15:46 REQUEST TO ALLOW TO USE OFF
7/30/09 14:15:48 SITE PARKING SPACES TO MITIGATE
7/30/09 14:15:49 THAT WAIVER.
7/30/09 14:15:51 THE WAIVER IS STILL IN PLACE,
7/30/09 14:15:53 YOU HAVE TO REQUEST THAT LEVEL
7/30/09 14:15:54 OF A WAIVER.
7/30/09 14:15:56 ALL THESE OFF SITE SPACES WOULD
7/30/09 14:15:57 DO IS MITIGATE THAT
7/30/09 14:15:57 REQUIREMENT.
7/30/09 14:15:59 THERE IS NO SPECIFIC NOTE THAT
7/30/09 14:16:01 I HAVE, ON YOUR SITE PLAN ABOUT
7/30/09 14:16:03 THAT, IF THAT IS SOMETHING YOU
7/30/09 14:16:05 WANT TO CONSIDER, WE CAN THINK
7/30/09 14:16:07 THROUGH WHETHER OR NOT SOME
7/30/09 14:16:09 KIND OF OBLIGATION FROM OFF
7/30/09 14:16:10 SITE PARKING COULD BE USED BUT
7/30/09 14:16:12 THE REQUIREMENT IS AND THE
7/30/09 14:16:14 WAIVER REQUESTED IS FOR NUMBER
7/30/09 14:16:16 OF SPACES TO BE ON SITE.
7/30/09 14:16:17 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 14:16:17 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 14:16:20 THANK YOU
7/30/09 14:16:23 VERY
7/30/09 14:16:23 MUCH.
7/30/09 14:16:23 OFFICER.
7/30/09 14:16:26 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
7/30/09 14:16:28 YES, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT
7/30/09 14:16:29 HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS
7/30/09 14:16:29 ZONING.
7/30/09 14:16:32 I KNOW THERE WERE ISSUE S
7/30/09 14:16:32 WITH
7/30/09 14:16:33 NEIGHBOURHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
7/30/09 14:16:36 I AM SURE YOU ARE GETTING
7/30/09 14:16:36 AN
7/30/09 14:16:39 EARFUL ON THAT BUT WE ARE NO
7/30/09 14:16:39 OBJECTIONS.
7/30/09 14:16:39 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 14:16:42 >> YOU HAVE
7/30/09 14:16:42 FIVE MINUTES
7/30/09 14:16:43 REBUTTAL.
7/30/09 14:16:44 >> YES, THANK YOU.
7/30/09 14:16:46 LET ME HAVE MY HAND OUT
7/30/09 14:16:49 DOCUMENT I GUESS WE CAN ADDRESS
7/30/09 14:16:49 THIS IMMEDIATELY.
7/30/09 14:16:52 MY CLIENT IS PREPARED TO
7/30/09 14:16:52 MAKE A
7/30/09 14:16:54 VERY SUBSTANTIAL INVEST IN THE
7/30/09 14:16:54 THIS PROPERTY.
7/30/09 14:16:56 I POINT THIS OUT CLEARLY
7/30/09 14:16:59 BECAUSE WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO
7/30/09 14:17:02 RECEIVE IN A SECOND FROM HIM IS
7/30/09 14:17:05 A LISTING OF FROM TAMPA POLICE
7/30/09 14:17:08 REPORT, THE POLICE ACTIVITY
7/30/09 14:17:11 JUST AT ONE ADDRESS AND THAT
7/30/09 14:17:12 IS
7/30/09 14:17:13 IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF THE
7/30/09 14:17:14 SUBJECT PROPERTY.
7/30/09 14:17:17 IF I CAN HAVE
7/30/09 14:17:20 THE OVERHEAD
7/30/09 14:17:21 AGAIN.
7/30/09 14:17:23 THERE IS A APARTMENT COMPLEX OR
7/30/09 14:17:26 BUILDING RIGHT
7/30/09 14:17:27 HERE.
7/30/09 14:17:28 AND THIS ADDRESS, 2512 NORTH A,
7/30/09 14:17:30 YOU CAN SEE THE AMOUNT OF
7/30/09 14:17:33 ACTIVITY JUST AT THAT
7/30/09 14:17:33 ONE
7/30/09 14:17:33 STREET ADDRESS.
7/30/09 14:17:36 I THINK IT IS
7/30/09 14:17:37 A LITTLE
7/30/09 14:17:39 DISCONCERNING TO US THAT AN
7/30/09 14:17:41 ISSUE BE BROUGHT UP BY MR.
7/30/09 14:17:43 CRUMBLY BY THE WAY HE HAS NOT
7/30/09 14:17:46 ATTENDED ANY NEIGHBOURHOOD
7/30/09 14:17:46 MEETINGS, NOT COMMUNICATED WITH
7/30/09 14:17:50 MY OFFICE TO MY KNOWLEDGE,
7/30/09 14:17:51 OKAY, HE IS LISTED GENERALIZED
7/30/09 14:17:52 STATEMENTS ABOUT NOISE AND
7/30/09 14:17:55 SAFETY AND OTHER ISSUES THAT HE
7/30/09 14:17:56 MAY WELL HAVE HAD IN HIS
7/30/09 14:17:59 NEIGHBOURHOOD BUT
7/30/09 14:18:00 OUR
7/30/09 14:18:00 CONDITIONOUR PROPOSED BUSINESS
7/30/09 14:18:02 PLAN HERE, WE DON'T BELIEVE IS
7/30/09 14:18:05 GOING TO RESULT IN
7/30/09 14:18:07 THESE
7/30/09 14:18:07 ISSUES.
7/30/09 14:18:08 THE SEPARATION ISSUE, YOU'VE
7/30/09 14:18:11 DEALT WITH THAT ISSUE ON EVERY
7/30/09 14:18:13 SINGLE --HAVE DEALT WITH IT
7/30/09 14:18:16 EVERY SINGLE --
7/30/09 14:18:19 IT BEING
7/30/09 14:18:20 PERMITTED ON --I DON'T KNOW
7/30/09 14:18:22 HOW YOU WOULD NOT DEAL WITH IT.
7/30/09 14:18:24 I UNDERSTAND THIS IS CASE BY
7/30/09 14:18:26 CASE BASIS BUT THE PACKET SHOWS
7/30/09 14:18:28 THE AMOUNT OF PERMITS APPROVED
7/30/09 14:18:30 WITHIN A SHORT DISTANCE OF THIS
7/30/09 14:18:31 SITE AND THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE
7/30/09 14:18:34 HAD TO DEAL WITH THOSE
7/30/09 14:18:34 ISSUES
7/30/09 14:18:34 REGARDING SEPARATION
7/30/09 14:18:37 REQUIREMENTS IN THE
7/30/09 14:18:38 PAST ON
7/30/09 14:18:39 OTHER PROJECTS.
7/30/09 14:18:41 THE --MR. BRIGS, YOU KNOW, HE
7/30/09 14:18:42 HAS BEEN WONDERFUL TO DEAL
7/30/09 14:18:42 WITH.
7/30/09 14:18:45 WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OH
7/30/09 14:18:46 PINION ON THIS PROJECT BUT WHEN
7/30/09 14:18:48 HE TALKS ABOUT WANTING TO CLEAN
7/30/09 14:18:50 UP A STREET AREA, I DON'T KNOW
7/30/09 14:18:52 HOW YOU DO THAT WITHOUT
7/30/09 14:18:53 ALLOWING BUSINESS OWNERS TO
7/30/09 14:18:56 COME IN AND INVEST IN
7/30/09 14:18:57 THAT
7/30/09 14:18:57 AREA.
7/30/09 14:19:00 THE GRAPHICS THAT I SHOWED
7/30/09 14:19:01 YOU
7/30/09 14:19:03 BEFORE, CLEARLY ILLUSTRATE TO
7/30/09 14:19:04 YOU A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT
7/30/09 14:19:04 WILL BE MADE.
7/30/09 14:19:06 MY CLIENT IS NOT GOING TO START
7/30/09 14:19:08 THE BUSINESS TO FAIL.
7/30/09 14:19:09 WE HAVE CLEARLY TOLD THE
7/30/09 14:19:11 NEIGHBORS WE ARE AGREEING TO
7/30/09 14:19:13 ALL THE CONDITIONS WE HAVE SET
7/30/09 14:19:14 OUT BEFORE YOU TODAY AND ARE
7/30/09 14:19:15 DOING THAT IN THE SPIRIT OF NOT
7/30/09 14:19:18 FAILING BUT
7/30/09 14:19:20 BEING SUCCESSFUL
7/30/09 14:19:20 HERE.
7/30/09 14:19:22 THE VALET SERVICES IS A VERY
7/30/09 14:19:23 EXPENSIVE SERVICE.
7/30/09 14:19:24 HE COULD EASILY HAVE SAID HERE
7/30/09 14:19:25 IS THE PARKING SPACE.
7/30/09 14:19:26 THEY ARE OFF SITE.
7/30/09 14:19:27 WE WILL DRIVE THERE.
7/30/09 14:19:29 HE IS TRYING TO CONTROL THE
7/30/09 14:19:32 TRAFFIC, CONTROL FLOW ON AND
7/30/09 14:19:35 OFF THE SITE AND THEREFORE NOT
7/30/09 14:19:37 THE PREFERRED OPTION FOR
7/30/09 14:19:39 INGRESS, THE PREFERRED INGRESS
7/30/09 14:19:42 IS KENNEDY HE AGREED TO
7/30/09 14:19:43 REVERSE
7/30/09 14:19:44 PARKING STANDARDS AND COME IN
7/30/09 14:19:47 HERE AND EXIT
7/30/09 14:19:48 ON KENNEDY.
7/30/09 14:19:50 MISS COLE MENTIONED THE PARKING
7/30/09 14:19:51 WAIVER, MY CLIENT IS TOTALLY
7/30/09 14:19:53 COMFORTABLE, IF YOU WANT TO
7/30/09 14:19:54 CREATE A CONDITION SAYING
7/30/09 14:19:57 WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF THE
7/30/09 14:19:58 SUBJECT PROPERTY, HE HAS TO
7/30/09 14:20:01 MAINTAIN THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF
7/30/09 14:20:01 CODE REQUIRED PARKING SPACES.
7/30/09 14:20:04 HE IS VERY COMFORTABLE WITH
7/30/09 14:20:04 THAT.
7/30/09 14:20:06 HIS OPINION IS, ONCE HE STARTS
7/30/09 14:20:08 HIS OPERATION, THE SURROUNDING
7/30/09 14:20:10 PROPERTY OWNERS ARE GOING TO
7/30/09 14:20:13 EMBRACE IT AS BEING GOOD FOR
7/30/09 14:20:15 THE NEIGHBOURHOOD AND THEREFORE
7/30/09 14:20:17 ALLOW ADDITIONAL PARKING ON
7/30/09 14:20:17 PROPERTIES NEARBY.
7/30/09 14:20:19 I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY IT.
7/30/09 14:20:20 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 14:20:23 >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION
7/30/09 14:20:24 HERE.
7/30/09 14:20:24 >> SURE.
7/30/09 14:20:25 >> YES, YOU MADE A STATEMENT
7/30/09 14:20:27 THAT YOU HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS
7/30/09 14:20:29 WITH THE NEIGHBOURHOOD.
7/30/09 14:20:32 NOW A GENTLEMAN CAME UP AND
7/30/09 14:20:34 SAID HE REPRESENTED 40 OF THE
7/30/09 14:20:34 PEOPLE.
7/30/09 14:20:35 ARE THESE THE SAME NEIGHBORS?
7/30/09 14:20:38 >> YEAH, THE INTERESTING THING
7/30/09 14:20:40 IS THE MEETINGS WE HAVE HAD MR.
7/30/09 14:20:41 BRIGS SHOWED UP AT ONE THEN WE
7/30/09 14:20:43 HAD THREE AND THEN FOUR.
7/30/09 14:20:45 I HAVE NOT SEEN --I MEAN THE
7/30/09 14:20:46 NEIGHBORS THAT HE IS REFERRING
7/30/09 14:20:48 TO, I AM SURE IT IS AN ACCURATE
7/30/09 14:20:50 PETITION THEY HAVE NOT COME TO
7/30/09 14:20:52 OUR MEETINGS.
7/30/09 14:20:53 SO FOR EXAMPLE, MR. CRUMBLY
7/30/09 14:20:55 HASN'T COME TO ANY MEETINGS SO
7/30/09 14:20:57 WE COULDN'T EXPLAIN THE PROJECT
7/30/09 14:20:57 TO HIM.
7/30/09 14:20:59 WE HAVE A PETITION WITH 16
7/30/09 14:21:01 PEOPLE IN SUPPORT OF THE
7/30/09 14:21:02 PETITION AND MR. ANDERSON WAS
7/30/09 14:21:04 WELL VERSED IN TERMS OF THOSE
7/30/09 14:21:04 PEOPLE.
7/30/09 14:21:07 >> WELL, ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE ON
7/30/09 14:21:08 THAT PETITION, THE 16 NEIGHBORS
7/30/09 14:21:10 ON THAT PETITION, ARE THEY THE
7/30/09 14:21:13 SAME NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE WITHIN
7/30/09 14:21:16 I GUESS MR. BRIGS
7/30/09 14:21:16 NEIGHBOURHOOD?
7/30/09 14:21:17 >> WELL,.
7/30/09 14:21:18 >> SAME NEIGHBOURHOOD, YES.
7/30/09 14:21:20 >> ON THE OVERHEAD YOU CAN SEE
7/30/09 14:21:23 THE RED DOTS THERE.
7/30/09 14:21:25 THE NEIGHBOURHOOD.
7/30/09 14:21:28 HERE IS
7/30/09 14:21:29 A STREET.
7/30/09 14:21:31 YOU CAN SEE THE PEOPLE WHO CAME
7/30/09 14:21:34 OUT WITH
7/30/09 14:21:34 THE SUPPORT.
7/30/09 14:21:36 MR. BRIGS FILED THE PETITION
7/30/09 14:21:38 THIS ISN'T A POPULARITY
7/30/09 14:21:38 CONTEST.
7/30/09 14:21:40 WE ARE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT
7/30/09 14:21:40 THING HERE.
7/30/09 14:21:42 >> WELL, THE QUESTION IS WHEN
7/30/09 14:21:44 SOMEONE SAYS TO ME, THE
7/30/09 14:21:46 NEIGHBORS SUPPORT THIS, ANOTHER
7/30/09 14:21:48 SAYS NEIGHBORS DON'T SUPPORT I
7/30/09 14:21:49 AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO
7/30/09 14:21:51 SUPPORTS AND WHO DOESN'T.
7/30/09 14:21:54 YOU GOT
7/30/09 14:21:55 TWO DIFFERENT
7/30/09 14:21:55 STATEMENTS.
7/30/09 14:21:56 THAT IS PART OF THE RECORD.
7/30/09 14:21:59 I AM A LITTLE CONFUSE WHO HAD
7/30/09 14:21:59 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
7/30/09 14:22:02 YOU HAVE A LIST, YOU HAVE 16
7/30/09 14:22:03 HE
7/30/09 14:22:04 SAID HE HAD 40.
7/30/09 14:22:05 I AM JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT
7/30/09 14:22:07 WHERE THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE IN
7/30/09 14:22:10 SUPPORT AND THE NEIGHBORS
7/30/09 14:22:10 OPPOSED.
7/30/09 14:22:11 NEIGHBORS IN SUPPORT, ARE THEY
7/30/09 14:22:13 LIVING BEHIND THE FACILITY?
7/30/09 14:22:15 OR THE PROPOSED SITE?
7/30/09 14:22:17 OR DO THEY LIVE FIVE BLOCKS
7/30/09 14:22:17 AWAY?
7/30/09 14:22:20 YOU GOT TO LOOK AT IT, KEEP IT
7/30/09 14:22:21 ALL WITHIN CONTEXT.
7/30/09 14:22:24 >> YEAH, WELL,
7/30/09 14:22:24 AGAIN.
7/30/09 14:22:27 >> YOU WHAT YOU HAVE
7/30/09 14:22:28 YOU MARKED
7/30/09 14:22:31 ON YOUR SITE ARE 16 THAT
7/30/09 14:22:31 SUPPORT.
7/30/09 14:22:31 >> CORRECT.
7/30/09 14:22:34 >> AND WE ALSO HAVE PROPERTY
7/30/09 14:22:36 OWNERS IN SUPPORT AS WELL
7/30/09 14:22:38 EMBRACING KENNEDY AND MAKING
7/30/09 14:22:41 IMPROVEMENTS ON
7/30/09 14:22:42 KENNEDY.
7/30/09 14:22:45 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 14:22:45 MR. MARCHETTI.
7/30/09 14:22:48 I AM THE PERSON WHO 20
7/30/09 14:22:51 SOMETHING YEARS AGO SAID LET'S
7/30/09 14:22:51 IMPROVE KENNEDY.
7/30/09 14:22:53 I AM ALL FOR IMPROVING KENNEDY
7/30/09 14:22:54 AND HAVING ACTIVE NEW USES.
7/30/09 14:22:57 YOU ARE ASKING FOR AN X. WHEN
7/30/09 14:22:58 YOU GAVE US THIS BOOKLET AND
7/30/09 14:23:01 GAVE US A
7/30/09 14:23:03 SERIES, ONE THROUGH
7/30/09 14:23:06 10 OF OTHER
7/30/09 14:23:06 ZONING APPROVALS,
7/30/09 14:23:08 AS I PER RUSED THE LIST, NOT
7/30/09 14:23:10 ONE IS AN X. SOME ARE
7/30/09 14:23:13 CONVENIENCE STORES, A NUMBER
7/30/09 14:23:13 ARE RESTAURANTS.
7/30/09 14:23:15 THERE IS ONE LIQUOR STORE,
7/30/09 14:23:18 ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT AN X, ABC
7/30/09 14:23:20 LIQUOR WHICH HAS BEEN THERE
7/30/09 14:23:21 SINCE GOD MADE DIRT BUT THE
7/30/09 14:23:23 OTHERS ARE ALL RESTAURANTS.
7/30/09 14:23:25 FUR HERE ASKING FOR A
7/30/09 14:23:27 RESTAURANT WITHOUT AN X WITH
7/30/09 14:23:30 RESTAURANT LIKE HOURS AND
7/30/09 14:23:31 RESTAURANT LIKE DEMANDS, I
7/30/09 14:23:34 WOULD VIEW THIS IN
7/30/09 14:23:35 A DIFFERENT
7/30/09 14:23:35 LIGHT.
7/30/09 14:23:38 I THINK THAT IT IS
7/30/09 14:23:38 A VERY
7/30/09 14:23:40 DIFFERENT REQUEST ASKING FOR AN
7/30/09 14:23:42 X AND ASKING FOR A BAR AS
7/30/09 14:23:44 OPPOSED TO ASKING FOR A
7/30/09 14:23:44 RESTAURANT.
7/30/09 14:23:46 AND I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO BE
7/30/09 14:23:48 TURNED DOWN SO WHAT I MIGHT
7/30/09 14:23:50 SUGGEST IS THAT YOU RETHINK
7/30/09 14:23:52 THIS, AND COME BACK TO US WITH
7/30/09 14:23:55 A REQUEST FOR A
7/30/09 14:23:55 RESTAURANT.
7/30/09 14:23:55 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 14:23:57 I WILL CERTAINLY ASK MY CLIENT.
7/30/09 14:24:00 I DO WANT TO POINT OUT
7/30/09 14:24:00 IN MY
7/30/09 14:24:03 BOOKLET HERE, THE KENNEDY,
7/30/09 14:24:06 LOCATED I BELIEVE IT'S ONE
7/30/09 14:24:09 BLOCK TO THE EAST, IS FOUR COP
7/30/09 14:24:11 WHICH ALLOWS FOR PACKAGE SALES
7/30/09 14:24:13 AS WELL WHICH WE ARE NOT
7/30/09 14:24:14 SEEKING THAT.
7/30/09 14:24:15 THIS IS ALL CON SUPPOSITION ON
7/30/09 14:24:18 PREMISES ONLY BUT I
7/30/09 14:24:19 WILL
7/30/09 14:24:19 DISCUSS WITH THE CLIENT.
7/30/09 14:24:22 >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
7/30/09 14:24:25 BY
7/30/09 14:24:25 COUNCIL?
7/30/09 14:24:25 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 14:24:28 THANK YOU SIR.
7/30/09 14:24:29 ANYTHING ELSE?
7/30/09 14:24:29 MOTION.
7/30/09 14:24:32 >> I HAVE A QUESTION
7/30/09 14:24:33 FOR STAFF.
7/30/09 14:24:35 LAND DEVELOPMENT, IF YOU LOOK
7/30/09 14:24:38 AT WHAT IS ON THE OVERHEAD
7/30/09 14:24:41 RIGHT NOW, THE RED DOTS,
7/30/09 14:24:41 WOULD
7/30/09 14:24:44 YOU ESTIMATE THAT ANY OF THOSE
7/30/09 14:24:47 ARE WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET
7/30/09 14:24:48 OF
7/30/09 14:24:48 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY?
7/30/09 14:24:51 >> YES, AND
7/30/09 14:24:54 I
7/30/09 14:24:56 ACTUALLY HAVE THE
7/30/09 14:24:56 OTHER MAP.
7/30/09 14:24:57 HOLD ON A SECOND.
7/30/09 14:25:00 JUST TO GIVE YOU A
7/30/09 14:25:00 BETTER IDEA.
7/30/09 14:25:01 THIS IS ALL WITHIN.
7/30/09 14:25:04 >> THAT'S
7/30/09 14:25:07 A THOUSAND FEET.
7/30/09 14:25:07 >> YEP.
7/30/09 14:25:09 >> NOW I NEED TO SEE THE OTHER
7/30/09 14:25:09 ONE.
7/30/09 14:25:11 CAN YOU PUT THEM SIDE BY SIDE?
7/30/09 14:25:12 THAT MIGHT HELP.
7/30/09 14:25:15 >> SO ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THIS
7/30/09 14:25:18 NORTH B, THIS IS NORTH B
7/30/09 14:25:18 STREET.
7/30/09 14:25:19 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 14:25:19 NORTH B.
7/30/09 14:25:21 >> A, NORTH B AND THEN LOOKING
7/30/09 14:25:22 AT THIS ONE.
7/30/09 14:25:24 THIS IS NORTH B SO SOME OF
7/30/09 14:25:27 THESE DO FALL WITHIN
7/30/09 14:25:29 THAT
7/30/09 14:25:29 RADIUS.
7/30/09 14:25:31 ONCE YOU GET TO THERE YOU ARE
7/30/09 14:25:32 JUST OUTSIDE THE RADIUS.
7/30/09 14:25:33 >> THIS IS JUST --
7/30/09 14:25:37 >> A LARGER
7/30/09 14:25:39 MAP.
7/30/09 14:25:40 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 14:25:43 >> THIS IS NORTH B,
7/30/09 14:25:43 THIS JUST
7/30/09 14:25:43 THERE.
7/30/09 14:25:44 SORRY.
7/30/09 14:25:44 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 14:25:47 >> JUST
7/30/09 14:25:48 NEAR THE BORDER.
7/30/09 14:25:50 SO YES ALL OF THESE THAT ARE
7/30/09 14:25:52 SHOWN ARE IN THAT.
7/30/09 14:25:52 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 14:25:55 THE APARTMENT HAS
7/30/09 14:25:57 PROBLEMS.
7/30/09 14:26:00 >> YES,
7/30/09 14:26:00 SIR.
7/30/09 14:26:03 >> CAN I HAVE MR.
7/30/09 14:26:05 ABBOT JUST
7/30/09 14:26:08 ADDRESS THE
7/30/09 14:26:08 RESTAURANT USE
7/30/09 14:26:08 ISSUE.
7/30/09 14:26:10 >> WE THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT THAT.
7/30/09 14:26:13 I TALKED TO NUMEROUS PEOPLE
7/30/09 14:26:14 THAT OWNED SPORTS TAVERNS BOTH
7/30/09 14:26:16 IN THE CITY AND OUTSIDE THE
7/30/09 14:26:17 CITY ABOUT THAT THE R VERSUS
7/30/09 14:26:20 THE X. I THINK THAT PROBABLY MY
7/30/09 14:26:21 SIMPLEST RESPONSE TO THAT IS
7/30/09 14:26:23 WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH A
7/30/09 14:26:25 RESTAURANT VERSUS A SPORTS
7/30/09 14:26:26 TAVERN, SOME TIMES PEOPLE COME
7/30/09 14:26:28 TO A SPORTS TAVERN JUST TO HAVE
7/30/09 14:26:30 A BEER OR HAVE A DRINK.
7/30/09 14:26:32 SPORTS EVENTS THAT HAPPEN ALL
7/30/09 14:26:34 OVER THE COUNTRY AT ALL
7/30/09 14:26:34 DIFFERENT HOURS.
7/30/09 14:26:37 SO WHEN WE STOP SERVING FOOD
7/30/09 14:26:38 AT
7/30/09 14:26:39 MIDNIGHT, LET'S SAY AND THERE
7/30/09 14:26:41 IS STILL THOSE THINGS GOING ON,
7/30/09 14:26:43 IT WILL DE FACTO MAKE US CLOSE
7/30/09 14:26:46 AT A PARTICULAR TIME BECAUSE OF
7/30/09 14:26:46 THAT.
7/30/09 14:26:48 AND THAT IS SOMETHING YOU KNOW,
7/30/09 14:26:51 THAT WE WANTED TO TRY TO
7/30/09 14:26:53 PREVENT AGAINST HAVING THAT 51
7/30/09 14:26:54 PERCENT BECAUSE SOME TIMES
7/30/09 14:26:55 PEOPLE WANT TO COME AND JUST
7/30/09 14:26:58 WATCH THE GAME AND HAVE A BEER
7/30/09 14:26:59 OR A PITCHER OR WHATEVER THE
7/30/09 14:27:01 CASE MIGHT B. THAT IS WHY WE
7/30/09 14:27:03 DECIDED NOT TO DO THAT.
7/30/09 14:27:04 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 14:27:07 >> I WOULD LIKE TO
7/30/09 14:27:09 MOVE THE
7/30/09 14:27:10 CLOSE THIS.
7/30/09 14:27:11 >> MOVE SECOND.
7/30/09 14:27:14 ALL IN FAVOUR SAY AYE.
7/30/09 14:27:14 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 14:27:17 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FOR
7/30/09 14:27:18 DISAPPROVAL BASED ON THE
7/30/09 14:27:21 COMMENTS FROM OUR
7/30/09 14:27:22 TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT ABOUT
7/30/09 14:27:24 THE INADD QUASI OF PARKING BUT
7/30/09 14:27:26 ALSO BASED ON THE PROXIMITY OF
7/30/09 14:27:28 THIS TO RESIDENTIAL USES.
7/30/09 14:27:30 WE HAVE PORTIONS OF OUR MAYOR
7/30/09 14:27:31 COMMERCIAL STREETS THAT --
7/30/09 14:27:33 MAJOR COMMERCIAL STREETS THAT
7/30/09 14:27:36 ARE CLOSER AND FARTHER FROM
7/30/09 14:27:37 RESIDENTIAL USES BUT THERE IS
7/30/09 14:27:40 AN EXISTING HEALTHY
7/30/09 14:27:40 NEIGHBOURHOOD LOCATED
7/30/09 14:27:43 IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS
7/30/09 14:27:46 PROPOSED USE WHICH IS GOING TO
7/30/09 14:27:48 RUN LATE, AND GOING TO HAVE A
7/30/09 14:27:51 NEGATIVE IMPACT ON
7/30/09 14:27:54 THE ADJACENT
7/30/09 14:27:55 NEIGHBOURHOOD.
7/30/09 14:27:58 THEY ASKED FOR A WAIVER AND
7/30/09 14:28:01 THEY DIDN'T
7/30/09 14:28:01 PROVIDE COMPELLING
7/30/09 14:28:03 STANDARDS OF A WAIVER.
7/30/09 14:28:06 I MOVE FOR DISAPPROVAL.
7/30/09 14:28:09 >>>I WILL SECOND
7/30/09 14:28:11 THAT WITH
7/30/09 14:28:11 FURTHER COMMENTS.
7/30/09 14:28:14 I THINK AS SEVERAL PEOPLE SAID
7/30/09 14:28:16 THE DISTANCE SEPARATION IS
7/30/09 14:28:19 THERE FOR A REASON AND YOU
7/30/09 14:28:19 ARE
7/30/09 14:28:21 REQUESTING A WAIVER FROM THIS
7/30/09 14:28:24 BODY WHICH
7/30/09 14:28:27 IS AN EXCEPTION.
7/30/09 14:28:30 AND WE HAVE A LOT OF
7/30/09 14:28:30 EVIDENCE
7/30/09 14:28:31 FROM DIFFERENT NEIGHBOURHOODS
7/30/09 14:28:34 IN TAMPA, OF A LOT OF REGRET
7/30/09 14:28:37 WHEN THEY REMOVED DISTANCE STEP
7/30/09 14:28:40 VISIONS FOR INSTANCE
7/30/09 14:28:40 IN IBOR
7/30/09 14:28:42 CITY WHERE ALL THE BUSINESSES I
7/30/09 14:28:44 WOULD GUESS REALLY REGRET THAT
7/30/09 14:28:47 THEY DIDN'T
7/30/09 14:28:48 KEEP DISTANCE
7/30/09 14:28:48 SEPARATION.
7/30/09 14:28:51 AND IN SOHO WHERE MR. CRUMBLY
7/30/09 14:28:54 IS A GOOD WITNESS I THINK
7/30/09 14:28:57 BECAUSE HE'S LIVED THROUGH
7/30/09 14:28:58 THIS
7/30/09 14:28:58 PROCESS.
7/30/09 14:28:59 WHERE THERE I THINK HAVE BEEN
7/30/09 14:29:00 TOO MANY WAIVERS GIVEN.
7/30/09 14:29:03 I THINK I CAN SAY THAT BECAUSE
7/30/09 14:29:04 I WASN'T HERE FOR MOST OF THEM.
7/30/09 14:29:07 IT IS MY NEIGHBOURHOOD
7/30/09 14:29:09 SO I
7/30/09 14:29:09 KNOW.
7/30/09 14:29:10 AND THERE IS A COUPLE OTHER
7/30/09 14:29:12 THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WITH
7/30/09 14:29:13 REGARD TO THIS.
7/30/09 14:29:16 THE ARGUMENT THERE ARE
7/30/09 14:29:18 SO MANY
7/30/09 14:29:20 OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS THAT DO
7/30/09 14:29:22 HAVE WEB ZONINGS, TO ME IS AN
7/30/09 14:29:23 ARGUMENT AGAINST GIVING YOU
7/30/09 14:29:26 THIS WAIVER BECAUSE THERE ARE
7/30/09 14:29:29 ALL THOSE OTHER BUSINESSES IN
7/30/09 14:29:32 THAT PROXIMITY TO
7/30/09 14:29:35 YOU, AND THE
7/30/09 14:29:37 FACT IS IT IS MORE AGAINST
7/30/09 14:29:40 ALLOWING A WAIVER TO ALLOW
7/30/09 14:29:41 OTTER'S TAB ESTABLISHMENT,
7/30/09 14:29:44 ANOTHER BAR IN THE
7/30/09 14:29:45 NEIGHBO . I
7/30/09 14:29:48 FEEL THE SAME ABOUT THE TAMPA
7/30/09 14:29:49 POLICE DEPARTMENT REPORT.
7/30/09 14:29:51 NEIGHBORS WERE ARGUING THEY
7/30/09 14:29:52 HAVE LIVED THERE A LONG TIME
7/30/09 14:29:54 AND ARE TRYING TO CREATE A
7/30/09 14:29:56 SAFER MORE FAMILY ORIENTED
7/30/09 14:29:56 NEIGHBOURHOOD.
7/30/09 14:29:57 IF WE HAVE THIS ONE ADDRESS
7/30/09 14:30:00 WHERE THERE IS STILL A LOT OF
7/30/09 14:30:03 PROBLEMS THAT IS
7/30/09 14:30:05 NOT A
7/30/09 14:30:06 JUSTIFICATION FOR ANOTHER BAR
7/30/09 14:30:09 WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT, WHO KNOWS
7/30/09 14:30:12 BUT I WOULD TEND TO THINK
7/30/09 14:30:14 A BAR
7/30/09 14:30:15 MIGHT HAVE MORE CALLS TO THE
7/30/09 14:30:18 POLICE THAN A PEDIATRIC
7/30/09 14:30:18 HOSPICE.
7/30/09 14:30:21 SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
7/30/09 14:30:24 THAT ALL THAT IS IN THE RECORD.
7/30/09 14:30:25 I LOVE BASEBALL, I DON'T DRINK
7/30/09 14:30:27 ANY MORE SO I DON'T HANG OUT AT
7/30/09 14:30:30 SPORTS BARS, IT IS YOU KNOW,
7/30/09 14:30:33 LOOKS LIKE A VERY --A GREAT
7/30/09 14:30:34 ESTABLISHMENT BUT YOU ARE JUST
7/30/09 14:30:36 WAY TOO CLOSE TO ALL THOSE
7/30/09 14:30:39 HOUSES AND I DON'T
7/30/09 14:30:40 THINK IT
7/30/09 14:30:43 WOULD BE FOR ANYONE A
7/30/09 14:30:43 GREAT
7/30/09 14:30:46 SOLUTION TO HAVE ANOTHER BAR
7/30/09 14:30:48 IN
7/30/09 14:30:50 THE NEIGHBOURHOOD.
7/30/09 14:30:53 >> CITY COUNCIL CAUSE
7/30/09 14:30:54 YOU TO
7/30/09 14:30:54 STOP DRINKING?
7/30/09 14:30:56 >> NO, IT MIGHT CAUSE ME TO
7/30/09 14:30:56 START DRINKING.
7/30/09 14:30:58 >>>I WILL TO AGREE WITH YOU.
7/30/09 14:31:01 >>>I WILL MAY
7/30/09 14:31:02 START MYSELF.
7/30/09 14:31:03 [ LAUGHTER ]
7/30/09 14:31:05 >> WELL, HOPEFULLY I WON'T GET
7/30/09 14:31:07 ARRESTED SO I WON'T HAVE TO GO
7/30/09 14:31:10 HAVE A BEER AT THE WHITE
7/30/09 14:31:12 HOUSE
7/30/09 14:31:14 . [ LAUGHTER ]
7/30/09 14:31:18 >> CITY COUNCIL DRIVES
7/30/09 14:31:19 YOU TO
7/30/09 14:31:19 DRINK.
7/30/09 14:31:19 OKAY.
7/30/09 14:31:19 ALL RIGHT.
7/30/09 14:31:20 >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
7/30/09 14:31:23 I WOULD LIKE TO SPECIFICALLY
7/30/09 14:31:24 READ SOME FINDINGS AND FACTS
7/30/09 14:31:27 FROM OUR STAFF INTO
7/30/09 14:31:30 THE RECORD.
7/30/09 14:31:33 THE DRC COMMITTEE SUGGESTED
7/30/09 14:31:34 THIS WAS INCONSISTENT BECAUSE
7/30/09 14:31:35 OF THE FOLLOWING REASONS I
7/30/09 14:31:38 AGREE AND WANT TO READ THIS
7/30/09 14:31:41 INTO RECORD.
7/30/09 14:31:42 SECTION 27-269 GENERAL
7/30/09 14:31:43 STANDARDS.
7/30/09 14:31:44 USEFUL ENSURE PUBLIC HEALTH
7/30/09 14:31:47 SAFETY AND GENERAL WELL TEAR OF
7/30/09 14:31:49 LOCATED PROPOSED AND DEVELOPED,
7/30/09 14:31:52 OPERATED ACCORDING TO THE
7/30/09 14:31:52 PLAN
7/30/09 14:31:52 SUBMITTED.
7/30/09 14:31:54 WE HEARD SPECIFIC TESTIMONY
7/30/09 14:31:56 THAT WOULDN'T BE ACCOMPLISHED.
7/30/09 14:31:59 NUMBER 3 COMPATIBLE WITH IS
7/30/09 14:32:02 YOUR HONOUR ROUNDING
7/30/09 14:32:04 PROPERTY
7/30/09 14:32:04 OR NECESSITY.
7/30/09 14:32:04 NOT.
7/30/09 14:32:06 WILL NOT ESTABLISH A PRECEDENT
7/30/09 14:32:07 OR INCOMPATIBLE USE IN THE
7/30/09 14:32:08 AREA.
7/30/09 14:32:09 THIS IS THE MOST INTENSIVE
7/30/09 14:32:12 REQUEST WE HAVE RECEIVED USING
7/30/09 14:32:12 THOSE I MOVE.
7/30/09 14:32:15 >> MOTION MADE FOR
7/30/09 14:32:16 DENIAL.
7/30/09 14:32:19 BY OUR COUNCILMEMBER SECOND
7/30/09 14:32:20 BY
7/30/09 14:32:20 COUNCILMEMBER MULHERN.
7/30/09 14:32:23 ALL IN MOTION
7/30/09 14:32:26 SAY
7/30/09 14:32:27 AYE.
7/30/09 14:32:27 OPPOSERS.
7/30/09 14:32:30 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH
7/30/09 14:32:33 DINGFELDER BEING
7/30/09 14:32:34 ABSENT.
7/30/09 14:32:34 >> ITEM 64.
7/30/09 14:32:36 >> MOVE TO OPEN.
7/30/09 14:32:36 >> SECOND.
7/30/09 14:32:39 >> ALL IN FAVOUR
7/30/09 14:32:45 SAY
7/30/09 14:32:45 AYE.
7/30/09 14:32:48 >> AYE
7/30/09 14:33:20 >>> I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
7/30/09 14:33:24 NEXT ITEM ON
7/30/09 14:33:27 THE
7/30/09 14:33:28 AGENDA.
7/30/09 14:33:30 PETITION VO 9-346.
7/30/09 14:33:33 CURRENT ZONING IS COMMERCIAL
7/30/09 14:33:33 GENERAL.
7/30/09 14:33:36 REQUEST IS FOR
7/30/09 14:33:37 A 2-COP-R
7/30/09 14:33:41 ALLOWING FOR ALCOHOLIC
7/30/09 14:33:43 BEVERAGES FOR CONSUMPTION ON
7/30/09 14:33:46 PREMISES ONLY THE PROPOSED
7/30/09 14:33:46 RESTAURANT CONTAINS 5,000
7/30/09 14:33:49 SQUARE FEET TOTAL
7/30/09 14:33:52 AREA IS 3,615
7/30/09 14:33:52 WARE FEET.
7/30/09 14:33:54 REQUIRED PARKING 83 SPACES, 86
7/30/09 14:33:57 SPACES
7/30/09 14:34:00 WILL
7/30/09 14:34:05 BE PROVIDED.
7/30/09 14:34:08 AND I HAVE AN AIL OF THE SITE.
7/30/09 14:34:10 --AIR YELL OF THE THE SITE
7/30/09 14:34:13 WHICH IS LOCATED
7/30/09 14:34:16 HERE
7/30/09 14:34:18 ON
7/30/09 14:34:20 HOWARD, HORATIO IS JUST NORTH,
7/30/09 14:34:23 LEON TO THE SOUTH, MOODY
7/30/09 14:34:26 TO
7/30/09 14:34:30 THE
7/30/09 14:34:30 WEST.
7/30/09 14:34:33 >> THIS IS A HAVE YOU
7/30/09 14:34:34 OF THE
7/30/09 14:34:35 SITE LOOKING NORTH.
7/30/09 14:34:38 THIS IS THE NORTH END
7/30/09 14:34:39 OF THE
7/30/09 14:34:42 SITE ON HOUR
7/30/09 14:34:43 RATIO.
7/30/09 14:34:46 THIS IS THE WEST END OF
7/30/09 14:34:49 THE
7/30/09 14:34:55 SITE ON MOODY.
7/30/09 14:35:04 >> SOLID WASTE
7/30/09 14:35:06 FINDS THIS
7/30/09 14:35:06 INCONSISTENT.
7/30/09 14:35:09 IT IS IN RELATION TO THE
7/30/09 14:35:11 REQUEST OF THE RIGHT AWAY.
7/30/09 14:35:14 NO OBJECTIONS ON
7/30/09 14:35:15 CITY COUNCIL'S
7/30/09 14:35:15 APPROVAL.
7/30/09 14:35:16 THIS CONCLUDE'S STAFF'S
7/30/09 14:35:16 PRESENTATION.
7/30/09 14:35:19 I AM AVAILABLE FOR
7/30/09 14:35:21 QUESTIONS.
7/30/09 14:35:22 >> ANY QUESTIONS.
7/30/09 14:35:25 >> DID I HEAR
7/30/09 14:35:25 YOU CORRECTLY?
7/30/09 14:35:28 ONE DEPARTMENT HAS AN
7/30/09 14:35:30 OBJECTION, THE OTHER DEPARTMENT
7/30/09 14:35:31 DOES NOT.
7/30/09 14:35:32 >> NO, SOLID WASTE PASSED THE
7/30/09 14:35:35 OBJECTION AND IT IS IN RELATION
7/30/09 14:35:37 TO --I WAS JUST EXPLAINING
7/30/09 14:35:39 THE OBJECTION RELATING TO THEIR
7/30/09 14:35:40 MANOEUVRING INTO THE RIGHT-OF-
7/30/09 14:35:43 WAY AND THEY DID REQUEST A
7/30/09 14:35:45 WAIVER FOR IT.
7/30/09 14:35:45 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 14:35:48 >> THEY OBJECT TO
7/30/09 14:35:49 IT BUT
7/30/09 14:35:51 COUNCIL SAW FIT TO BE GRANTED,
7/30/09 14:35:52 THEY ARE OKAY WITH IT.
7/30/09 14:35:54 >> YES, SIR.
7/30/09 14:35:55 >> I THINK THIS IS GOING --I
7/30/09 14:35:58 DON'T KNOW IF IT IS GOING IN
7/30/09 14:36:00 THE SAME SPACE BUT THAT IS
7/30/09 14:36:01 WHERE THE GROCERY STORE WAS.
7/30/09 14:36:03 >> YOU DID SAY THAT.
7/30/09 14:36:03 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 14:36:06 WHAT THE OBJECTION ABOUT THE
7/30/09 14:36:07 MANOEUVRING, IS THAT --IS
7/30/09 14:36:08 THIS
7/30/09 14:36:10 --IS THIS GARBAGE IN A
7/30/09 14:36:12 DIFFERENT PLACE THAN THE OTHER
7/30/09 14:36:14 ESTABLISHMENTS LIKE THEY HAVE
7/30/09 14:36:14 HAD IT?
7/30/09 14:36:16 I MEAN, SEEMS LIKE YOU JUST --
7/30/09 14:36:17 THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT
7/30/09 14:36:19 BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE PROPERTY
7/30/09 14:36:19 IS.
7/30/09 14:36:21 >> YES.
7/30/09 14:36:23 IT IS PROPOSED THE COLLECTION
7/30/09 14:36:26 ALONG THE WEST
7/30/09 14:36:29 OF
7/30/09 14:36:31 THE SITE.
7/30/09 14:36:34 >> THIS WILL BE THE
7/30/09 14:36:36 LOCATION OF
7/30/09 14:36:38 THE SOLID WASTE.
7/30/09 14:36:38 >> MOODY.
7/30/09 14:36:39 >> AND THAT ALLEY.
7/30/09 14:36:41 >> YES, RIGHT THERE.
7/30/09 14:36:43 >> BUT MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT
7/30/09 14:36:45 NOT WHERE ALL THE WASTE
7/30/09 14:36:48 COLLECTION IS WHERE THAT PLAZA
7/30/09 14:36:48 IS?
7/30/09 14:36:51 >> I AM NOT SURE WHERE IT
7/30/09 14:36:51 WAS
7/30/09 14:36:53 FOR THE GROCERY STORE.
7/30/09 14:36:55 THERE YOU GO.
7/30/09 14:36:56 >> YEAH, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE
7/30/09 14:36:58 --WHAT IS THEIR OTHER OPTION
7/30/09 14:37:00 IF THEY WERE NOT GOING TO PUT
7/30/09 14:37:03 IT BEHIND THIS BUILDING?
7/30/09 14:37:06 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
7/30/09 14:37:07 PREVIOUSLY THE SOLID WASTE
7/30/09 14:37:08 WASN'T AT THE SAME AREA.
7/30/09 14:37:11 IT IS JUST POLICY THAT WE
7/30/09 14:37:12 OBJECT TO A WAIVER WHENEVER OUR
7/30/09 14:37:15 SERVICE FIELD HAS TO BACK INTO
7/30/09 14:37:16 A RIGHT-OF-WAY.
7/30/09 14:37:19 WE WILL LEAVE IT UP TO
7/30/09 14:37:19 COUNCIL.
7/30/09 14:37:19 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 14:37:22 >> FOR APPROVAL OF THIS
7/30/09 14:37:23 GROUP.
7/30/09 14:37:25 >> OFFICER MILLER.
7/30/09 14:37:27 >> OFFICER DON MILLER CITY OF
7/30/09 14:37:28 TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
7/30/09 14:37:31 WE HAVE NO OBJECTION
7/30/09 14:37:32 TO THIS.
7/30/09 14:37:35 >> PROPER HEARING ANYONE WISH
7/30/09 14:37:38 TO ADDRESS --WELL, PETITION
7/30/09 14:37:41 INNER, YOU WANT TO COME
7/30/09 14:37:41 ON.
7/30/09 14:37:44 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
7/30/09 14:37:47 3816 WEST LINE BAR
7/30/09 14:37:50 AVENUE
7/30/09 14:37:50 TAMPA
7/30/09 14:37:50 33624.
7/30/09 14:37:53 AS WAS SAID THIS IS
7/30/09 14:37:54 A REQUEST
7/30/09 14:37:57 FOR A TWO COP
7/30/09 14:38:03 O
7/30/09 14:38:06 WEB
7/30/09 14:38:06 ZONING.
7/30/09 14:38:07 THIS WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE
7/30/09 14:38:08 EXCEPTION OF SOLID WASTE WHICH
7/30/09 14:38:10 IS MORE OF A TECHNICAL
7/30/09 14:38:12 OBJECTION THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
7/30/09 14:38:14 SHOPPING CENTER HAS BEEN THERE
7/30/09 14:38:14 FOR AWHILE.
7/30/09 14:38:16 AND A JAPANESE RESTAURANT WOULD
7/30/09 14:38:19 BE ONE OF THE OBVIOUSLY
7/30/09 14:38:19 MOST
7/30/09 14:38:21 RECENT USERS OF THAT.
7/30/09 14:38:22 THERE IS REALLY NOTHING I HAVE
7/30/09 14:38:24 TO ADD ON THAT.
7/30/09 14:38:26 I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
7/30/09 14:38:29 QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
7/30/09 14:38:31 >> THANK YOU SIR.
7/30/09 14:38:33 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 14:38:36 >> YOU ALL HAVE THE SAME TIE.
7/30/09 14:38:39 >> TWO FOR ONE.
7/30/09 14:38:39 >> PUBLIC HEARING.
7/30/09 14:38:41 ANYONE WISH TO ADDRESS COUNCIL
7/30/09 14:38:44 MAY COME FORWARD AT
7/30/09 14:38:45 THIS TIME.
7/30/09 14:38:46 PUBLIC HEARING.
7/30/09 14:38:49 >> GOOD AFTERNOON
7/30/09 14:38:51 GENTLEMENT.
7/30/09 14:38:52 I AM WALTER CRUMBLY.
7/30/09 14:38:54 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
7/30/09 14:38:55 PRESIDENT OF CURRY CITIGROUP.
7/30/09 14:38:57 I HAVE NOT MET WITH THESE
7/30/09 14:38:59 PEOPLE AND NO BODY IN MY GROUP
7/30/09 14:39:00 HAS MET WITH THESE PEOPLE.
7/30/09 14:39:03 WE ARE GOING BY WHAT THE NAME
7/30/09 14:39:05 SAYS, WHEN WE MET THE OTHER
7/30/09 14:39:06 NIGHT AND SAID WHAT ARE WE
7/30/09 14:39:08 GOING TO DO WITH THIS THING.
7/30/09 14:39:09 AND IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING
7/30/09 14:39:12 THEY WANT TO SERVE WINE AND
7/30/09 14:39:15 BEER ON THE PREMISES AND THEY
7/30/09 14:39:17 ARE GOING TO SERVE SUSHI AND
7/30/09 14:39:19 APPARENTLY WE GOT A LOT OF
7/30/09 14:39:20 SUSHI LOVERS IN MY
7/30/09 14:39:21 NEIGHBOURHOOD BECAUSE THEY
7/30/09 14:39:24 THOUGHT THAT WAS A
7/30/09 14:39:26 PRETTY GOOD
7/30/09 14:39:26 IDEA.
7/30/09 14:39:27 OVERWHELMING SUPPORT BUT WITHIN
7/30/09 14:39:28 SOME LIMITATIONS OF YOU KNOW,
7/30/09 14:39:31 CLOSE DOWN AT A REASONABLE
7/30/09 14:39:34 HOUR, WE WOULD GO ALONG WITH
7/30/09 14:39:34 IT.
7/30/09 14:39:37 IT HAS PARKING, IT'S NOT A
7/30/09 14:39:38 MAC
7/30/09 14:39:39 DENTON'S THING THEY ARE NOT
7/30/09 14:39:42 GOING TO HAVE LIVE MUSIC AND
7/30/09 14:39:43 LOTS OF PEOPLE RUNNING AROUND.
7/30/09 14:39:45 SOMETHING HAS TO GO THERE, WE
7/30/09 14:39:48 FELT LIKE THAT WAS
7/30/09 14:39:51 A GOOD DEAL.
7/30/09 14:39:51 QUESTIONS?
7/30/09 14:39:52 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
7/30/09 14:39:55 >> DO YOU EAT SUSHI
7/30/09 14:39:56 MR.
7/30/09 14:39:56 CRUMBLY?
7/30/09 14:39:58 >> NOT ON YOUR LIFE.
7/30/09 14:40:00 I HAD IT ONE TIME 40 YEARS AGO
7/30/09 14:40:02 IN OAK THAT WITH A, TOOK ME
7/30/09 14:40:05 FOUR DAYS TO
7/30/09 14:40:08 GET
7/30/09 14:40:09 OVER IT.
7/30/09 14:40:09 [ LAUGHTER ]
7/30/09 14:40:12 >> ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC
7/30/09 14:40:14 WANT TO PETITION IT?
7/30/09 14:40:15 REBUTTAL?
7/30/09 14:40:17 ANY FACTS YOU WANT TO ADD?
7/30/09 14:40:20 >> NO, I AM REALLY NOT MUCH OF
7/30/09 14:40:21 A SUSHI FAN MYSELF.
7/30/09 14:40:23 MY FISH HAVE TO BE DEAD AND
7/30/09 14:40:26 COOKED BUT THE HOURS
7/30/09 14:40:27 OF
7/30/09 14:40:29 OPERATION WILL LIKELY BE AROUND
7/30/09 14:40:32 MIDNIGHT WE WILL BE
7/30/09 14:40:32 CLOSING,
7/30/09 14:40:33 LATEST, POSSIBLY EARLIER.
7/30/09 14:40:36 I JUST SPOKE TO THE OPERATORS,
7/30/09 14:40:39 THEY ARE STILL WORKING
7/30/09 14:40:39 ON THAT.
7/30/09 14:40:42 BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS IS JUST YOU
7/30/09 14:40:44 KNOW, ANOTHER RESTAURANT, IT IS
7/30/09 14:40:45 NOTHING UNUSUAL.
7/30/09 14:40:45 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 14:40:46 ALL RIGHT.
7/30/09 14:40:46 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 14:40:48 >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION, THE
7/30/09 14:40:50 PARKING THAT IS IN THE BACK,
7/30/09 14:40:53 ACCORDING TO THIS PLAN, IS
7/30/09 14:40:53 THAT
7/30/09 14:40:53 YOURS ALSO?
7/30/09 14:40:56 >> IT IS --THE PARKING
7/30/09 14:40:57 IN THE
7/30/09 14:40:58 REAR IS NOT --I DON'T KNOW
7/30/09 14:41:01 THAT IT IS PARTICULARLY
7/30/09 14:41:03 ASSIGNED TO ANY SPACE WITHIN
7/30/09 14:41:03 THE PARKING CENTER.
7/30/09 14:41:05 IT IS USABLE BY ANY AND ALL
7/30/09 14:41:06 PATRONS OF THE CENTER.
7/30/09 14:41:09 >> COME DOWN
7/30/09 14:41:11 ALONG THE SIDE?
7/30/09 14:41:12 >>>I WILL I'M SORRY.
7/30/09 14:41:14 >> THE PARKING IS IN THE BACK
7/30/09 14:41:15 SO THEY CAN COME ALONG HERE I
7/30/09 14:41:17 THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO AROUND.
7/30/09 14:41:19 >> AS FAR AS I KNOW, YES.
7/30/09 14:41:20 >> OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
7/30/09 14:41:22 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
7/30/09 14:41:22 >> SECOND.
7/30/09 14:41:25 >> MOVE AND SECOND ALL
7/30/09 14:41:28 IN
7/30/09 14:41:31 FAVOUR SAFE.
7/30/09 14:41:33 >> CLOSE.
7/30/09 14:41:34 >> ORDINANCE.
7/30/09 14:41:35 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 14:41:37 SO ...
7/30/09 14:41:40 >>
7/30/09 14:41:43 THEY'RE PREPARED.
7/30/09 14:42:00 >> CAETANO.
7/30/09 14:42:01 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 14:42:02 MR. CHAIRMAN, APPROVING A
7/30/09 14:42:05 SPECIAL USE PERMIT
7/30/09 14:42:06 S-2
7/30/09 14:42:07 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALEMAKING
7/30/09 14:42:09 LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES OF
7/30/09 14:42:11 ALCOHOL CONTAINING MORE THAN 1
7/30/09 14:42:12 PERCENT BY WEIGHT AND NOT MORE
7/30/09 14:42:15 THAN 14 PERCENT BY WEIGHT AND
7/30/09 14:42:18 WINES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC
7/30/09 14:42:20 CONCEPT, BEER AND WINE FOR
7/30/09 14:42:21 CONSUMPTION ON THE PREMISES
7/30/09 14:42:23 ONLY IN CONNECTION WITH THE
7/30/09 14:42:25 RESTAURANT BUSINESS A TRACK OF
7/30/09 14:42:28 LAND LOCATED 533
7/30/09 14:42:29 SOUTH HOWARD
7/30/09 14:42:31 AVENUE, 4-D AND 4-E TAMPA
7/30/09 14:42:33 FLORIDA AS DESCRIBED IN SECTION
7/30/09 14:42:35 TWO HERE OF APPROVING WAIVERS
7/30/09 14:42:38 SET FORTH HERE IN AND
7/30/09 14:42:38 PROVIDING
7/30/09 14:42:40 REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANTS
7/30/09 14:42:42 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
7/30/09 14:42:46 >> MOVE AND SECOND
7/30/09 14:42:47 BY COUNCIL
7/30/09 14:42:48 MIRANDA.
7/30/09 14:42:50 ALL IN FAVOUR SAY AYE.
7/30/09 14:42:51 >> AEY.
7/30/09 14:42:53 >> MOTION CLOSED WITH
7/30/09 14:42:55 DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AND
7/30/09 14:42:57 SAUL-SENA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
7/30/09 14:43:00 SECOND READING WILL BE
7/30/09 14:43:00 HELD
7/30/09 14:43:01 AUGUST 20th, 9:30:00 A.M.
7/30/09 14:43:03 >> OKAY THANK YOU.
7/30/09 14:43:06 >> WE WILL TAKE UP OUR
7/30/09 14:43:07 LAST
7/30/09 14:43:07 ITEM TON AGENDA.
7/30/09 14:43:07 NEW BUSINESS.
7/30/09 14:43:10 DO THAT
7/30/09 14:43:12 AFTER THE WORKSHOP.
7/30/09 14:43:15 ITEM 65 WHICH IS A
7/30/09 14:43:20 WORKSHOP ON
7/30/09 14:43:23 THE
7/30/09 14:43:29 WMB SLEE
7/30/09 14:43:32 ORDINANTS.
7/30/09 14:43:36 OKAY.
7/30/09 14:43:45 >>> OKAY
7/30/09 14:43:47 DID I LOSE HIM?
7/30/09 14:43:48 >> HE'S UP.
7/30/09 14:43:51 >> HE WANTS TO GO
7/30/09 14:43:52 GET SOMEONE
7/30/09 14:43:55 FROM [ VOICE IN THE
7/30/09 14:43:57 BACKGROUND
7/30/09 14:43:58 ]
7/30/09 14:43:58 >> YEAH.
7/30/09 14:43:59 >> MR. CHAIRMAN HE IS ON HIS
7/30/09 14:44:02 WAY IN, I HAVE A
7/30/09 14:44:04 PIECE OF
7/30/09 14:44:04 NONNEWS.
7/30/09 14:44:06 I ASKED IF YOU WANTED A
7/30/09 14:44:07 COMMENDATION BECAUSE HE LEFT HE
7/30/09 14:44:09 SAID NO BECAUSE HE IS MODEST
7/30/09 14:44:12 FELLOW BUT I DON'T KNOW IF HE
7/30/09 14:44:14 IS NO LONGER WORKING FOR IS IT
7/30/09 14:44:15 I. 23 YEARS.
7/30/09 14:44:17 >> DID HE RETIRE?
7/30/09 14:44:18 >> NO, HIS POSITION WAS
7/30/09 14:44:20 ELIMINATED AND HE HAS BEEN OUR
7/30/09 14:44:22 URBAN DESIGN GUY SINCE FOREVER
7/30/09 14:44:24 AND I THINK IT CREATES A BIG
7/30/09 14:44:25 VOID.
7/30/09 14:44:27 I AM REALLY SORRY HE IS GONE.
7/30/09 14:44:27 REALLY SORRY.
7/30/09 14:44:30 HE ASKED NOT TO BE RECOGNIZED
7/30/09 14:44:31 WITH A COMMENDATION.
7/30/09 14:44:33 BUT HE SAID HE ALWAYS LOVED
7/30/09 14:44:34 WORKING WITH CITY COUNCIL.
7/30/09 14:44:36 >> WE ARE GOING TO MISS HIM.
7/30/09 14:44:39 >> WELL, IT DOES GIVE
7/30/09 14:44:42 YOU
7/30/09 14:44:43 PAUSE.
7/30/09 14:44:46 >> WELL, ELIMINATED.
7/30/09 14:44:48 >> SO WHEN THEY SAY SOMETHING
7/30/09 14:44:50 IS COMING TO US AT 30, 60 AND
7/30/09 14:44:53 90 PERCENT OF PLANS AND SOME
7/30/09 14:44:54 BODY FROM URBAN DESIGN IS
7/30/09 14:44:57 LOOKING AT IT, WE HAVE
7/30/09 14:45:00 TO
7/30/09 14:45:01 ASK
7/30/09 14:45:02 OURSELVES WHO.
7/30/09 14:45:02 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 14:45:03 YOU READY?
7/30/09 14:45:03 >> YES, SIR.
7/30/09 14:45:06 >> OKAY WE LOST YOU FOR
7/30/09 14:45:07 A
7/30/09 14:45:07 MINUTE THERE.
7/30/09 14:45:09 YOU READY TO ADD YOUR HONOUR
7/30/09 14:45:09 AND LEAVE.
7/30/09 14:45:12 >> --READY TO ADJOURNMENT AND
7/30/09 14:45:12 LEAVE.
7/30/09 14:45:15 >> I THOUGHT WE WERE WAITING ON
7/30/09 14:45:15 ANOTHER PERSON.
7/30/09 14:45:17 GREGORY HEART MANAGER FOR SMALL
7/30/09 14:45:20 BUSINESS AND MINORITY BUSINESS
7/30/09 14:45:20 DEVELOPMENT.
7/30/09 14:45:23 I AM VERY PLEASED TO PRESENT TO
7/30/09 14:45:26 YOUR OUR FIRST 12 MONTH
7/30/09 14:45:26 PROGRAM
7/30/09 14:45:29 REPORT UNDER THE NEW EQUAL
7/30/09 14:45:29 BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY ORDINANTS.
7/30/09 14:45:32 I HAVE A POWER
7/30/09 14:45:33 POINT
7/30/09 14:45:36 PRESENTATION FOR
7/30/09 14:45:42 THAT PURPOSE.
7/30/09 14:45:45 ORDINANTS 2008
7/30/09 14:45:48 --89
7/30/09 14:45:49 REQUIRES
7/30/09 14:45:49 DEREAL LOPPING REPORTS.
7/30/09 14:45:52 DELINEATION OF
7/30/09 14:45:52 SMALL BUSINESS
7/30/09 14:45:53 ENTERPRISES AND WOMEN PLY NORTY
7/30/09 14:45:56 BUSINESS I WANTER PRIZES WMBE
7/30/09 14:45:59 ON BASIS OF TOTAL
7/30/09 14:46:00 --
7/30/09 14:46:01 ENTERPRISES WMBE ON BASIS OF
7/30/09 14:46:03 TOTAL DOLLARS AWARDED AND
7/30/09 14:46:03 PAYMENTS.
7/30/09 14:46:06 THE PURPOSE IS TO
7/30/09 14:46:09 REPORT
7/30/09 14:46:13 SLBE
7/30/09 14:46:16 AND WMB E UTAHLEIZATION
7/30/09 14:46:17 FOR THE
7/30/09 14:46:18 2008 FISCAL YEAR.
7/30/09 14:46:20 I DO WANT THE PROVIDE AN
7/30/09 14:46:21 OVERVIEW ESPECIALLY FOR OUR
7/30/09 14:46:25 PUBLIC AUDIENCE TO
7/30/09 14:46:26 ADDRESS
7/30/09 14:46:28 BACKGROUND INFORMATION,
7/30/09 14:46:31 TERMINOLOGY,
7/30/09 14:46:33 AND DATA
7/30/09 14:46:33 METHODOLOGY.
7/30/09 14:46:33 BEGINNING BACKGROUND
7/30/09 14:46:34 INFORMATION, RECONSEQUENT U.S.
7/30/09 14:46:37 SUPREME COURT AND
7/30/09 14:46:38 LOWER COURT
7/30/09 14:46:40 RULINGS BROUGHT STRICT
7/30/09 14:46:41 GUIDELINES LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
7/30/09 14:46:43 MUST APPLY TO INCREASE
7/30/09 14:46:46 PARTICIPATION OF WOMEN
7/30/09 14:46:46 AND
7/30/09 14:46:49 MINORITY BUSINESSES, WMBEs.
7/30/09 14:46:51 CURRENT JUDICIAL STANDARDS
7/30/09 14:46:52 PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE PACK WILL
7/30/09 14:46:55 BASIS MUST BE ESTABLISHED TO
7/30/09 14:46:58 PROMOTE INCREASED BUSINESS
7/30/09 14:46:58 WITH
7/30/09 14:46:59 WMBEs.
7/30/09 14:47:01 THE COURTS SAY A DISPARITY
7/30/09 14:47:04 STUDY IS METHOD USED
7/30/09 14:47:06 TO
7/30/09 14:47:06 ESTABLISH MANUFACTURED
7/30/09 14:47:06 EVIDENCE.
7/30/09 14:47:09 CITY OF TAMPA CONDUCTED THEIR
7/30/09 14:47:12 DISPARITY STUDY COMPLETED IN
7/30/09 14:47:12 2007.
7/30/09 14:47:14 THE RESULT OFFS THAT STUDY
7/30/09 14:47:17 INDICATED THAT NO
7/30/09 14:47:19 DISPARITY IN
7/30/09 14:47:19 SUBCONTRACTING EXISTED, THERE
7/30/09 14:47:21 WAS DISPARITY AT THE PRIME
7/30/09 14:47:24 CONTRACT LEVEL WITH A VALUE OF
7/30/09 14:47:27 $500,000 OR
7/30/09 14:47:30 LESS CONTRACTS, AND
7/30/09 14:47:32 WE HAD NO LEGAL BASIS FOR CON
7/30/09 14:47:35 SINEWING A RACE AND
7/30/09 14:47:37 GENDER
7/30/09 14:47:37 CONSCIOUS GOAL PROGRAM.
7/30/09 14:47:40 WATCH COMPLETING THE
7/30/09 14:47:41 DISPARITY
7/30/09 14:47:43 STUDY, AND BECOMING EQUIPPED
7/30/09 14:47:45 WITH KNOWLEDGE OF NEW JUDICIAL
7/30/09 14:47:48 GUIDELINES WE DID CRAFT EQUAL
7/30/09 14:47:51 BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY
7/30/09 14:47:51 PROGRAM
7/30/09 14:47:54 ORDINANTS, 2008-89, THAT
7/30/09 14:47:57 ORDINANCE WAS ENACTED
7/30/09 14:47:58 JULY 2008
7/30/09 14:48:00 AND ESSENTIALLY ESTABLISHED
7/30/09 14:48:03 INITIATIVES TO PROMOTE
7/30/09 14:48:04 EQUAL
7/30/09 14:48:04 OPPORTUNITY.
7/30/09 14:48:07 THAT FIRST PROGRAM IS SLB
7/30/09 14:48:07 PARTICIPATION.
7/30/09 14:48:10 THAT IS OUR PRIMARY OPERATING
7/30/09 14:48:12 PROGRAM IT IS A RACE AND
7/30/09 14:48:14 JEEPEDDER NEUTRAL PROGRAM AND
7/30/09 14:48:17 SERVES AS AN INCUBATOR FOR
7/30/09 14:48:17 OUR
7/30/09 14:48:19 WMBEs IN TERMS OF BECOMING
7/30/09 14:48:20 CERTIFIED AND PARTICIPATING
7/30/09 14:48:23 THROUGH THAT PRIMARY
7/30/09 14:48:23 PROGRAM.
7/30/09 14:48:26 THE WMBE PARTICIPATION IS A
7/30/09 14:48:28 RACE AND GENDER CONSCIOUS
7/30/09 14:48:31 APPROACH AND IT IS
7/30/09 14:48:33 CURRENTLY
7/30/09 14:48:33 NOT MANDATED.
7/30/09 14:48:36 IN THE USE OF RACE AND GENDER
7/30/09 14:48:39 CONTRACT GOALS, MUST BE
7/30/09 14:48:39 BASED
7/30/09 14:48:40 ON MULTIPLE YEAR STATISTICAL
7/30/09 14:48:43 EVIDENCE AND LEGAL BASIS.
7/30/09 14:48:46 THAT
7/30/09 14:48:48 IS WMBE PROGRAM.
7/30/09 14:48:49 COMMON TERMINOLOGY USED
7/30/09 14:48:52 THROUGHOUT THIS REPORT AND OUR
7/30/09 14:48:55 PROGRAM, ARE AS
7/30/09 14:48:55 FOLLOWS,
7/30/09 14:48:56 AVAILABILITY, AVAILABILITY
7/30/09 14:48:57 DEFINED AS COMPANIES EXPRESSING
7/30/09 14:48:58 INTEREST IN DOING BUSINESS WITH
7/30/09 14:49:01 THE CITY OF TAMPA.
7/30/09 14:49:03 CUTIZATION AS I DISCUSS THIS
7/30/09 14:49:05 REPORT MEANS ACTUAL PAYMENTS
7/30/09 14:49:08 MADE TO
7/30/09 14:49:10 VENDORS AND
7/30/09 14:49:10 SUBCONTRACTORS.
7/30/09 14:49:13 CAPACITY MEANS THE
7/30/09 14:49:14 COMPANY HAS
7/30/09 14:49:15 THE CREDENTIALS TO PERFORM
7/30/09 14:49:18 CONTRACT SERVICES
7/30/09 14:49:21 FOR
7/30/09 14:49:23 THE CITY.
7/30/09 14:49:26 RACE AND GENDER
7/30/09 14:49:27 NEUTRAL
7/30/09 14:49:29 PROGRAMS, SLBE ARE BASED ON
7/30/09 14:49:32 BUSINESS SIZE
7/30/09 14:49:35 AND REVENUES.
7/30/09 14:49:38 THE TERM DERELICT
7/30/09 14:49:38 TAILOR
7/30/09 14:49:40 PROGRAMS, WMBE REFERS TO RACE
7/30/09 14:49:42 AND GENDER CORRECTIVE ACTION TO
7/30/09 14:49:45 ADDRESS DISPARITY AND DIVERSITY
7/30/09 14:49:46 MANAGEMENT INFORMATION YOU HAVE
7/30/09 14:49:47 HEARD A LOT ABOUT AND PUBLIC
7/30/09 14:49:50 WILL CONTINUE TO HEAR THAT.
7/30/09 14:49:50 THAT IS DMI.
7/30/09 14:49:53 THAT IS OUR CITY WIDE PROCESS
7/30/09 14:49:56 TO COLLECT,
7/30/09 14:49:59 TRACK
7/30/09 14:50:00 AND ANALYZE
7/30/09 14:50:02 UTILIZATION AND ABILITY.
7/30/09 14:50:03 DMI METHODOLOGY I JUST
7/30/09 14:50:06 MENTIONED CREATED NEW BUSINESS
7/30/09 14:50:07 PROCESS FOR DATA COLLECTION,
7/30/09 14:50:08 AUTOMATION AND REPORTING.
7/30/09 14:50:10 THE REPORTS THAT I AM
7/30/09 14:50:13 PRESENTING ARE FOR CONTRACTS
7/30/09 14:50:16 AWARDED IN 2008 FISCAL
7/30/09 14:50:18 YEAR,
7/30/09 14:50:20 AND CUTELIZATION DOLLARS
7/30/09 14:50:23 REPRESENT
7/30/09 14:50:26 --UTILIZATION DOLLARS
7/30/09 14:50:27 REPRESENT 2008 FISCAL YEAR.
7/30/09 14:50:30 THE DMI DATA ELEMENTS INCLUDE
7/30/09 14:50:33 ALL COMPETITIVELY BID PRO
7/30/09 14:50:36 CUREMENT SEPARATED INTO
7/30/09 14:50:36 FOUR
7/30/09 14:50:39 MAJOR UTILIZATION AREAS, THE
7/30/09 14:50:42 FIRST BEING SLBE
7/30/09 14:50:43 PRIME, SLBE
7/30/09 14:50:46 SUBCONTRACT ACTIVITY, WMBE
7/30/09 14:50:49 PRIME AND
7/30/09 14:50:52 WMBE
7/30/09 14:50:56 SUBCONTRACT
7/30/09 14:50:56 ACTIVITY.
7/30/09 14:50:59 EACH
7/30/09 14:51:02 OF THE UTILIZATION AREAS
7/30/09 14:51:03 I
7/30/09 14:51:05 MENTIONED INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION,
7/30/09 14:51:08 CONSTRUCTION RELATED SERVICES,
7/30/09 14:51:08 PROFESSIONAL SERVICES,
7/30/09 14:51:11 NONPROFESSIONAL
7/30/09 14:51:13 SERVICES AND
7/30/09 14:51:13 GOODS.
7/30/09 14:51:16 CONTRACT DATA I WILL
7/30/09 14:51:17 BE
7/30/09 14:51:18 PRESENTING IS SEPARATED BY TWO
7/30/09 14:51:21 CATEGORIES, THE
7/30/09 14:51:22 FIRST BEING
7/30/09 14:51:25 CONTRACTS $500,000 BELOW AND
7/30/09 14:51:26 WITHIN THAT CONTRACTS 25,000
7/30/09 14:51:27 DOLLARS AND BELOW.
7/30/09 14:51:30 AND IT MIGHT HELP
7/30/09 14:51:31 TO MENTION
7/30/09 14:51:34 THAT 98 PERCENT OF THE
7/30/09 14:51:34 CITY OF
7/30/09 14:51:37 TAMPA CONTRACTS FALL
7/30/09 14:51:38 UNDER THAT
7/30/09 14:51:41 $500,000 THRESHOLD AND
7/30/09 14:51:41 OF THOSE
7/30/09 14:51:44 CONTRACTS, 87 PERCENT OF THE
7/30/09 14:51:47 500,000 BELOW ARE LESS
7/30/09 14:51:48 THAN
7/30/09 14:51:51 25,000 DOLLARS
7/30/09 14:51:54 IN SIZE.
7/30/09 14:51:56 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS
7/30/09 14:51:59 PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW
7/30/09 14:51:59 OF OUR
7/30/09 14:52:02 SLBE PROGRAM AND WMBE
7/30/09 14:52:02 ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS AND
7/30/09 14:52:05 THEN WE WILL GET INTO
7/30/09 14:52:06 SOME OF
7/30/09 14:52:06 THE DATA.
7/30/09 14:52:09 AS IT RELATES TO
7/30/09 14:52:12 THESE TWO
7/30/09 14:52:12 CERTIFICATIONS.
7/30/09 14:52:14 THE SLBE PROGRAM, ELIGIBILITY
7/30/09 14:52:16 REQUIREMENTS, THIS IS RACE AND
7/30/09 14:52:18 GENDER NEUTRAL INITIATIVE, OUR
7/30/09 14:52:19 PRIMARY INITIATIVE AND BUSINESS
7/30/09 14:52:22 MUST BE IN TAMPA'S
7/30/09 14:52:24 SLBE MARKET
7/30/09 14:52:24 AREA.
7/30/09 14:52:27 THAT MARKET AREA IS COMPRISED
7/30/09 14:52:28 OF HILLSBOROUGH, PINELLAS,
7/30/09 14:52:30 POLK, PASCAL AND MANATEE
7/30/09 14:52:30 COUNTIES.
7/30/09 14:52:32 THE BUSINESS OWNER MUST BE A
7/30/09 14:52:33 PERMANENT RESIDENT OF THE STATE
7/30/09 14:52:35 OF FLORIDA, THE BUSINESS MUST
7/30/09 14:52:38 HAVE 25 OR LESS FULL TIME
7/30/09 14:52:40 EMPLOYEES, AND THE AVERAGE
7/30/09 14:52:43 ANNUAL GROSS RECEIPTS OVER
7/30/09 14:52:44 THREE YEARS CANNOT EXCEED $2
7/30/09 14:52:46 MILLION FOR THAT BUSINESS.
7/30/09 14:52:48 ONE OF THE MAJOR ATTRIBUTES OR
7/30/09 14:52:51 TOOLS OF OUR SLBE PROGRAM IS
7/30/09 14:52:54 THE SHELTERED MARKET
7/30/09 14:52:55 SOLICITATION OPPORTUNITIES,
7/30/09 14:52:57 THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE PRIME
7/30/09 14:53:00 CONTRACTS THAT ARE VALUED AT
7/30/09 14:53:03 $200,000 OR LESS AND WHEN WE
7/30/09 14:53:06 HAVE A MINIMUM OF
7/30/09 14:53:06 THREE SLBEs
7/30/09 14:53:08 WE SHELTER THAT PRO CUREMENT
7/30/09 14:53:11 AND ALLOW THOSE FIRMS TO
7/30/09 14:53:14 COMPETE WITHIN
7/30/09 14:53:15 THEIR PEER
7/30/09 14:53:16 GROUP.
7/30/09 14:53:19 THE AWARD IS STILL LOWEST
7/30/09 14:53:21 AND
7/30/09 14:53:24 MOST
7/30/09 14:53:25 RESPONSIVE BID.
7/30/09 14:53:26 NOW HAVING BEEN GIVEN
7/30/09 14:53:28 ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS FOR
7/30/09 14:53:30 SLBE PROGRAM I WILL ADDRESS ALL
7/30/09 14:53:33 INDUSTRIES COMBINED UNDER
7/30/09 14:53:33 THE
7/30/09 14:53:35 SLBE PRIME UTILIZATION
7/30/09 14:53:35 CATEGORY.
7/30/09 14:53:38 KEEPING IN MIND
7/30/09 14:53:39 THAT SLBE
7/30/09 14:53:42 PROGRAM IS AN INCUE BAY TORE SO
7/30/09 14:53:45 I WILL PRESENT THE EXTENT
7/30/09 14:53:45 TO
7/30/09 14:53:48 WHICH OUR WMBEs ARE INCLUDED
7/30/09 14:53:50 AND PARTICIPATING AS AND UNDER
7/30/09 14:53:51 THE SLBE PROGRAM.
7/30/09 14:53:55 80 PERCENT OF OUR
7/30/09 14:53:56 SLBEs ARE
7/30/09 14:53:57 WNBE CERTIFIED.
7/30/09 14:54:00 LOOKING AT THE
7/30/09 14:54:03 PIE CHART, WMBEs
7/30/09 14:54:06 PARTICIPATING AS SLBEs RECEIVED
7/30/09 14:54:09 66 PERCENT OR $2.2 MILLION OF
7/30/09 14:54:12 ALL
7/30/09 14:54:15 SLBE PRIME CONTRACTS.
7/30/09 14:54:18 IN THE
7/30/09 14:54:20 CONTEXT OF SUBCONTRACTS,
7/30/09 14:54:23 UNDER THE SLBE
7/30/09 14:54:26 PROGRAM,
7/30/09 14:54:26 ALL
7/30/09 14:54:29 INDUSTRIES ARE
7/30/09 14:54:31 WMBEs CERTIFIED
7/30/09 14:54:33 SLBEs REPRESENTED 81 PERCENT OR
7/30/09 14:54:36 $579,000 OF
7/30/09 14:54:42 ALL
7/30/09 14:54:45 SLBE
7/30/09 14:54:48 SUBCONTRACT PAYMENTS.
7/30/09 14:54:49 NOW I MIGHT TALK ABOUT
7/30/09 14:54:50 ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS AND
7/30/09 14:54:53 THEN ADDRESS
7/30/09 14:54:54 SAME DATA.
7/30/09 14:54:56 FOR WNBE THE COMPANY MUST BE 51
7/30/09 14:54:59 PERCENT WOMEN OR MINORITY OWNED
7/30/09 14:55:02 AND OPERATED, THE COMPANY MUST
7/30/09 14:55:05 BE FLORIDA FILED,
7/30/09 14:55:07 WE LOOK AT 10
7/30/09 14:55:09 ETHNIC CLASSIFICATIONS AND
7/30/09 14:55:12 GENDER, AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE
7/30/09 14:55:15 NO LEGAL BASIS FOR
7/30/09 14:55:17 WMBE GOAL
7/30/09 14:55:17 PROGRAM.
7/30/09 14:55:20 TO FULLY IMPLEMENT THE
7/30/09 14:55:21 WMBE
7/30/09 14:55:24 GOAL PROGRAM, REQUIRES AN
7/30/09 14:55:26 AVAILABILITY AND UTILIZATION
7/30/09 14:55:28 ANALYSIS, THREE TO FIVE YEARS
7/30/09 14:55:30 OF DATA, DOCUMENTED DISPARITY
7/30/09 14:55:33 IS REQUIRED FOR A
7/30/09 14:55:34 LEGAL BASIS.
7/30/09 14:55:36 IT REQUIRES STRICT SCRUTINY AND
7/30/09 14:55:39 NARROW TAILORING TO HAVE
7/30/09 14:55:40 PROGRAM WHEN IMPLEMENTATION IS
7/30/09 14:55:43 JUSTIFIED UNDER THE
7/30/09 14:55:46 THE LEGAL
7/30/09 14:55:46 BASIS.
7/30/09 14:55:49 NOW, IN TERMS
7/30/09 14:55:51 OF THE WMBE FOR
7/30/09 14:55:53 ALL COMBINED INDUSTRY
7/30/09 14:55:56 CATEGORIES, $500,000 OR
7/30/09 14:55:57 LESS,
7/30/09 14:55:58 OUR WMBEs RECEIVED 14 PERCENT
7/30/09 14:56:01 FOR THREE .1 MILLION DOLLARS
7/30/09 14:56:04 OF ALL --THREE
7/30/09 14:56:09 .1 $3.1
7/30/09 14:56:12 MILLION OF PRIME PAYMENTS.
7/30/09 14:56:15 IN THAT CATEGORY,
7/30/09 14:56:18 OUR WMBEs
7/30/09 14:56:21 RECEIVED
7/30/09 14:56:24 9.6
7/30/09 14:56:29 PERCENT OR 520,000
7/30/09 14:56:31 PRIME PAYMENTS OF $20,000 OR
7/30/09 14:56:31 LESS.
7/30/09 14:56:33 TAKING THAT ANALYSIS IN THE
7/30/09 14:56:35 SUBCONTRACT ACTIVITY, ALL
7/30/09 14:56:38 INDUSTRIES COMBINED,
7/30/09 14:56:41 ARE
7/30/09 14:56:42 WMBE
7/30/09 14:56:43 SUBCONTRACT UTILIZATION,
7/30/09 14:56:46 REVEALED THAT 33 PERCENT OF --
7/30/09 14:56:48 OR $8.7 MILLION OF ALL
7/30/09 14:56:51 SUBCONTRACT PAYMENTS WENT
7/30/09 14:56:54 TO
7/30/09 14:56:56 OUR WMBEs.
7/30/09 14:56:58 NOW WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS
7/30/09 14:57:02 ILLUSTRATE WITH THESE
7/30/09 14:57:03 CHARTS, A
7/30/09 14:57:06 BIRD'S EYE ANALYSIS
7/30/09 14:57:07 OF TARGET
7/30/09 14:57:08 PARTICIPATION AND THE POINT I
7/30/09 14:57:11 WANT TO MAKE BY SHOWING THIS
7/30/09 14:57:14 BIRD'S EYE VIEW IS IF YOU
7/30/09 14:57:14 ARE
7/30/09 14:57:17 LOOKING SOLELY AT WHERE WE MET
7/30/09 14:57:19 TARGETS IN THE VARIOUS INDUSTRY
7/30/09 14:57:21 CATEGORIES BASED ON ETHNICITY,
7/30/09 14:57:24 ONE MIGHT ASSUME THAT WE ARE
7/30/09 14:57:27 DOING WELL IN SOME AREAS AND
7/30/09 14:57:29 PERHAPS QUESTIONABLE IN OTHERS.
7/30/09 14:57:32 AND THAT IS NOT
7/30/09 14:57:36 NECESSARILY THE
7/30/09 14:57:38 INTERPRETATION THAT THIS CHART
7/30/09 14:57:38 NORINFORMATION REVEALS.
7/30/09 14:57:40 YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF THIS IS
7/30/09 14:57:43 ONE YEAR OF DATA, THERE ARE
7/30/09 14:57:44 ONLY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF
7/30/09 14:57:47 CONTRACT THAT IS ARE AWARDED
7/30/09 14:57:47 DURING THE YEAR.
7/30/09 14:57:49 AND WITH THOSE CONTRACTS
7/30/09 14:57:52 AWARDS, THERE IS ONLY A CERTAIN
7/30/09 14:57:54 PERCENT OF PAYMENTS MADE.
7/30/09 14:57:56 AND ALSO, THE AVAILABILITY
7/30/09 14:57:58 AFFIRMS IN THE VARIOUS
7/30/09 14:57:59 CATEGORIES AND DISCIPLINES
7/30/09 14:58:02 WHICH THOSE CONTRACTS THAT WERE
7/30/09 14:58:02 AWARDED REQUIRED.
7/30/09 14:58:05 TO MY POINT,
7/30/09 14:58:07 TON NEXT CHART,
7/30/09 14:58:10 CONVERTING THAT BIRD'S
7/30/09 14:58:11 EYE VIEW
7/30/09 14:58:14 OF CHECKS INTO THE
7/30/09 14:58:15 STATISTICS
7/30/09 14:58:16 BASED ON PERCENTAGES, ONE CAN
7/30/09 14:58:18 SEE FOR EXAMPLE UNDER THE
7/30/09 14:58:21 INDUSTRY CATEGORY OF
7/30/09 14:58:24 CONSTRUCTION, AFRICAN AMERICAN
7/30/09 14:58:25 BUSINESSES OUR AVAILABILITY
7/30/09 14:58:28 PERCENTAGE TARGET WAS EIGHT
7/30/09 14:58:32 .8
7/30/09 14:58:35 PERCENT --
7/30/09 14:58:38 8.8
7/30/09 14:58:41 PERCENT AND
7/30/09 14:58:44 EIGHTH SEVENTH PERCENT
7/30/09 14:58:47 BUT IT
7/30/09 14:58:53 ..7 PERCENT IT
7/30/09 14:58:54 SAID TARGET NOT
7/30/09 14:58:55 MET WHICH WAS NOT CORRECT.
7/30/09 14:58:58 WE ARE TRAINING
7/30/09 14:59:01 TOWARDS THE
7/30/09 14:59:02 ESTABLISHED AVAILABILITY
7/30/09 14:59:02 TARGET.
7/30/09 14:59:05 THAT LAST WAS FOR
7/30/09 14:59:05 CONTRACTS,
7/30/09 14:59:06 $500,000 UNDER.
7/30/09 14:59:08 NOW TAKING THE SAME BIRD'S EYE
7/30/09 14:59:11 VIEW OF CONTRACTS IN
7/30/09 14:59:11 THE
7/30/09 14:59:12 CATEGORY OF 25,000 DOLLARS OR
7/30/09 14:59:14 LESS, YOU LOOK AT THE AREAS
7/30/09 14:59:16 WHERE FROM A BIRD'S EYE VIEW
7/30/09 14:59:19 THERE HAS BEEN TARGETS
7/30/09 14:59:20 MET AND
7/30/09 14:59:23 IN A BROAD SENSE TARGETS NOT
7/30/09 14:59:25 MET BUT THEN LOOKING AT THE
7/30/09 14:59:28 STATISTICS, YOU GET A BETTER
7/30/09 14:59:30 AND MORE DETAILED STORY OF
7/30/09 14:59:33 WHERE WE ARE TRADING
7/30/09 14:59:34 TOWARDS
7/30/09 14:59:36 ACHIEVEMENT OF THE TARGET
7/30/09 14:59:36 PARTICIPATION LEVELS.
7/30/09 14:59:39 NOW IN SOME OF THESE
7/30/09 14:59:41 CATEGORIES, COLUMNS WHERE YOU
7/30/09 14:59:43 SEE ZEROS, THAT SIMPLY MEANS
7/30/09 14:59:45 THAT PAYMENTS WERE NOT MADE
7/30/09 14:59:47 DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME.
7/30/09 14:59:50 WITHOUT DEVILING INTO A LOT OF
7/30/09 14:59:52 THE DETAIL, I CAN SAY FOR
7/30/09 14:59:53 EXAMPLE IN CONSTRUCTION, WHILE
7/30/09 14:59:56 WE MAY NOT
7/30/09 14:59:59 BE REFLECTING A
7/30/09 15:00:02 PERCENTAGE OF DOLLARS MET IN
7/30/09 15:00:05 THE CATEGORY OF AFRICAN
7/30/09 15:00:05 AMERICANS OR HISPANIC
7/30/09 15:00:08 AMERICANS, I KNOW FOR
7/30/09 15:00:09 INSTANCE
7/30/09 15:00:10 THAT THERE A CON FACT OR
7/30/09 15:00:12 CONTRACTS AWARDED BUT NO
7/30/09 15:00:13 PAYMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE TOWARD
7/30/09 15:00:13 THAT CONTRACT.
7/30/09 15:00:16 SO IT IS NOT GOING TO
7/30/09 15:00:19 SHOW YOU
7/30/09 15:00:22 WHERE PAYMENTS HAVE NOT
7/30/09 15:00:22 YET
7/30/09 15:00:22 BEEN MADE.
7/30/09 15:00:25 THIS IS ALL ABOUT WHO IS
7/30/09 15:00:27 PARTICIPATING AND WHO IS
7/30/09 15:00:30 ACTUALLY RECEIVING
7/30/09 15:00:33 DOLLARS IN
7/30/09 15:00:33 THEIR POCKET.
7/30/09 15:00:36 NOW, TAKING THE BIRD'S EYE
7/30/09 15:00:37 VIEW
7/30/09 15:00:40 OF WNBE PARTICIPATION AT
7/30/09 15:00:40 THE
7/30/09 15:00:43 SUBCONTRACT LEVEL,
7/30/09 15:00:43 INDUSTRY
7/30/09 15:00:45 CATEGORY, AGAIN, THE CHECKS
7/30/09 15:00:47 INDICATING WHERE WE ARE MEETING
7/30/09 15:00:49 OUR TARGETS OR TRENDING TOWARDS
7/30/09 15:00:51 MEETING THOSE TARGETS, WHERE WE
7/30/09 15:00:52 HAVE THE Xs.
7/30/09 15:00:55 YOU WILL RECALL I MENTIONED 33
7/30/09 15:00:56 PERCENT OF ALL SUBCONTRACT
7/30/09 15:00:59 PAYMENTS HAVE GONE
7/30/09 15:01:04 TOWARDS OUR
7/30/09 15:01:04 WMBES.
7/30/09 15:01:06 REFLECTING AGAIN WHERE WE ARE
7/30/09 15:01:07 TRENDING AFTER ONE YEAR GIVEN A
7/30/09 15:01:10 SET NUMBER OF
7/30/09 15:01:10 CONTRACTS, LEVEL
7/30/09 15:01:13 PARTICIPATION BY INDUSTRY
7/30/09 15:01:15 AND
7/30/09 15:01:18 ETHNICITY
7/30/09 15:01:19 AND GENDER.
7/30/09 15:01:22 TO SUMMARIZE THOSE CHARTS THAT
7/30/09 15:01:25 I JUST PRESENTED, THE
7/30/09 15:01:26 KEY TO
7/30/09 15:01:29 UTILIZATION RESULTS ARE
7/30/09 15:01:29 AS
7/30/09 15:01:32 FOLLOWS, CONTRACTS
7/30/09 15:01:33 UNDER
7/30/09 15:01:36 $500,000, TARGET IN
7/30/09 15:01:36 CONSTRUCTION RELATED SERVICES,
7/30/09 15:01:39 NONPROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND
7/30/09 15:01:39 GOODS.
7/30/09 15:01:42 FOR CONTRACTS UNDER THE 25,000
7/30/09 15:01:43 DOLLARS THRESHOLD, HISPANIC
7/30/09 15:01:46 AMERICANS MET THE
7/30/09 15:01:48 TARGETS IN
7/30/09 15:01:49 GOODS, CAUCASIAN FEMALES MET
7/30/09 15:01:52 THE TARGET IN
7/30/09 15:01:55 CONSTRUCTION
7/30/09 15:01:56 RELATED SERVICES.
7/30/09 15:01:58 REGARDING ALL SUBCONTRACT
7/30/09 15:01:59 ACTIVITY AND PAYMENTS THAT HAVE
7/30/09 15:02:02 BEEN MADE, ASIAN AMERICANS AND
7/30/09 15:02:03 CAUCASIAN FEMALES MET THAT
7/30/09 15:02:06 TARGET IN CONSTRUCTION, AFRICAN
7/30/09 15:02:08 AMERICAN, HISPANIC AMERICANS
7/30/09 15:02:11 AND CAUCASIAN FEMALES MET THE
7/30/09 15:02:13 TARGET IN NONPROFESSIONAL
7/30/09 15:02:14 SERVICES, AND HISPANIC
7/30/09 15:02:17 AMERICANS ARE MEETING THE
7/30/09 15:02:20 TARGET
7/30/09 15:02:22 IN GOODS.
7/30/09 15:02:25 THIS FLOW CHART DOES A
7/30/09 15:02:26 PRETTY
7/30/09 15:02:29 GOOD JOB
7/30/09 15:02:30 SUMMARIZING AND
7/30/09 15:02:32 CAPTURING THE PROCESS THAT I
7/30/09 15:02:34 HAVE JUST REVIEWED WITH YOU.
7/30/09 15:02:37 THE FLOW CHART SHOWS THE
7/30/09 15:02:39 PROCESS AND EVENTS THAT
7/30/09 15:02:41 DETERMINE IF PROGRAM POLICY
7/30/09 15:02:44 SHOULD BE ADJUSTED OR
7/30/09 15:02:45 INCLUDE
7/30/09 15:02:45 ADDITIONAL REMEDIES AND
7/30/09 15:02:46 ACTIONS.
7/30/09 15:02:49 THE CHART'S FIRST BOX
7/30/09 15:02:52 REPRESENTS ALL 10 ETHNIC
7/30/09 15:02:54 AND
7/30/09 15:02:57 GENDER AVAILABILITY
7/30/09 15:02:59 AND
7/30/09 15:02:59 UTILIZATION.
7/30/09 15:03:02 AFRICAN
7/30/09 15:03:04 AMERICANS, CAUCASIAN
7/30/09 15:03:05 MALES, CAUCASIAN FEY MALES.
7/30/09 15:03:08 THIS IS COLLECTED
7/30/09 15:03:09 THROUGH OUR
7/30/09 15:03:09 DMI SYSTEM.
7/30/09 15:03:11 AFTER DAY AT THAT HAS BEEN
7/30/09 15:03:14 COLLECTED REPORTS ARE CREATED
7/30/09 15:03:16 THROUGH THE DMI AUTOMATED
7/30/09 15:03:19 SYSTEM TO ANALYZE THE DISPARITY
7/30/09 15:03:22 EXISTS BETWEEN THE VARIOUS
7/30/09 15:03:25 ETHNIC AND GENDER GROUPS BY
7/30/09 15:03:25 INDUSTRY CLASSIFICATION.
7/30/09 15:03:27 IF NO DISPARITY IS FOUND, AS
7/30/09 15:03:29 REPRESENTATIVE IN THE TOP SET
7/30/09 15:03:32 OF BOXES, TO THE RIGHT,
7/30/09 15:03:35 THE
7/30/09 15:03:37 CITY MUST CONTINUE THE SLBE
7/30/09 15:03:39 PROGRAM AT ALL LEVELS.
7/30/09 15:03:41 IF DISPARITY IS FOUND, AS
7/30/09 15:03:44 INDICATED BY THE
7/30/09 15:03:45 LOWER RIGHT
7/30/09 15:03:48 HAND BOX, A LEGAL REVIEW IS
7/30/09 15:03:50 REQUIRED AND ANY POLICY CHANGES
7/30/09 15:03:53 MUST BE ADDRESSED TO THE
7/30/09 15:03:56 SPECIFIC AREAS ONLY
7/30/09 15:03:56 WHERE
7/30/09 15:03:58 DISPARITY EXISTED AND LEGAL
7/30/09 15:04:01 BASIS BY WHICH THE FINDINGS
7/30/09 15:04:03 ARE
7/30/09 15:04:05 ESTABLISHED IS CONFIRMED.
7/30/09 15:04:08 NEW POLICIES MUST BE SPECIFIC
7/30/09 15:04:11 TO
7/30/09 15:04:13 THESE FINDINGS, IE, IN THE
7/30/09 15:04:15 RIGHT HAND LOWER BOX, NARROW
7/30/09 15:04:18 TAILORING OF ANY ADDITIONAL
7/30/09 15:04:20 POLICY OR INITIATIVES.
7/30/09 15:04:23 SO WHAT CAN BE CONCLUDED AFTER
7/30/09 15:04:26 YEAR ONE OF
7/30/09 15:04:29 IMPLEMENTATIONING
7/30/09 15:04:32 NEW
7/30/09 15:04:33 ORDINANCE GUIDELINES.
7/30/09 15:04:36 WE IMPLEMENTED THE NEW PROCESS.
7/30/09 15:04:39 AUTOMATED PROCESS TO TRACK AND
7/30/09 15:04:41 ANALYZE DATA, WITH JUDICIAL
7/30/09 15:04:42 GUIDELINES WE ARE GIVEN.
7/30/09 15:04:44 WE DOCUMENTED ONE YEAR OF DATA
7/30/09 15:04:46 WITH THE FIVE INDUSTRY
7/30/09 15:04:46 CATEGORIES.
7/30/09 15:04:49 WE NOW HAVE ONE YEAR OF
7/30/09 15:04:50 WMBE
7/30/09 15:04:52 DATA WHICH IS INSUFFICIENT AT
7/30/09 15:04:54 THIS TIME FOR POLICY CHANGES
7/30/09 15:04:57 AND WILL CONTINUE TO
7/30/09 15:04:58 OVER THE
7/30/09 15:05:01 NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS
7/30/09 15:05:04 AND
7/30/09 15:05:07 UPCOMING YEAR, COLLECT DATA
7/30/09 15:05:08 AND
7/30/09 15:05:10 WHEN POLICY CHANGES REQUIRE
7/30/09 15:05:11 MULTIPLE YEARS OF DATA.
7/30/09 15:05:13 WE ARE IN THE PROCESS NOW OF
7/30/09 15:05:16 BIDING BY THE GUIDELINES, ABLE
7/30/09 15:05:18 TO COLLECT MULTIPLE YEARS OF
7/30/09 15:05:21 DATA, WE WILL DOCUMENT
7/30/09 15:05:21 WHETHER
7/30/09 15:05:22 DISPARITY EXISTS OR DOESN'T AND
7/30/09 15:05:25 IF SO IT WILL NEED TO BE
7/30/09 15:05:28 REPORTED ON A LEGAL BASIS TO
7/30/09 15:05:29 ENACT ANY ADDITIONAL REMEDIES.
7/30/09 15:05:31 WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?
7/30/09 15:05:34 THE NEXT UPDATE IS A SEMI
7/30/09 15:05:35 ANNUAL REPORT IN MARCH OF 2010.
7/30/09 15:05:38 WE WILL THEN HAVE THE 2009
7/30/09 15:05:41 FISCAL YEAR ANNUAL REPORT DATA,
7/30/09 15:05:43 WE WILL ALSO HAVE OF COURSE THE
7/30/09 15:05:47 2008 FISCAL YEAR DATA,
7/30/09 15:05:48 COMBINED
7/30/09 15:05:50 WITH 2009 DATA FOR CUMULATIVE
7/30/09 15:05:50 TWO YEAR REPORT.
7/30/09 15:05:53 WE ARE VERY MUCH ON OUR WAY TO
7/30/09 15:05:54 THE BEST PRACTICE OF THREE TO
7/30/09 15:05:57 FIVE YEARS OF DATA COLLECTION
7/30/09 15:06:00 UNDER THE LEGAL
7/30/09 15:06:02 GUIDELINES AND
7/30/09 15:06:02 STANDARDS.
7/30/09 15:06:05 IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS I WILL
7/30/09 15:06:05 BE
7/30/09 15:06:08 HAPPY TO
7/30/09 15:06:09 RESPOND.
7/30/09 15:06:11 >> YEAH, LET ME JUST SAY THANK
7/30/09 15:06:13 YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.
7/30/09 15:06:15 AND YOU KEEP STRESSING THE IDEA
7/30/09 15:06:16 OF THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
7/30/09 15:06:19 I WANT TO SAY TO COUNCIL I HOPE
7/30/09 15:06:20 WE DON'T WAIT FIVE YEARS, I
7/30/09 15:06:23 HOPE WE LOOK AT IT IN THREE
7/30/09 15:06:26 YEARS BECAUSE AXE WALLTY FROM A
7/30/09 15:06:27 LEGAL STAND POINT YOU CAN'T
7/30/09 15:06:30 MAKE POLICY CHANGES UP TILL YOU
7/30/09 15:06:31 HAVE UPDATE DATA.
7/30/09 15:06:33 DATA REQUIRES AT LEAST THREE
7/30/09 15:06:33 YEARS.
7/30/09 15:06:36 YOU NEED TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT
7/30/09 15:06:39 YOUR DATA, NUMBER 1. NUMBER 2,
7/30/09 15:06:42 THIS IS A GOOD
7/30/09 15:06:42 START OF
7/30/09 15:06:43 TRACKING INFORMATION.
7/30/09 15:06:44 IT IS A GOOD START.
7/30/09 15:06:47 WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE
7/30/09 15:06:47 STATISTICS.
7/30/09 15:06:50 STAFF MIGHT SAY OH, THIS
7/30/09 15:06:50 IS
7/30/09 15:06:53 GREAT, MY READ ON THIS MAY BE
7/30/09 15:06:53 A
7/30/09 15:06:54 LITTLE DIFFERENT.
7/30/09 15:06:56 FOR INSTANCE I WOULD SAY UNDER
7/30/09 15:06:58 PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, IT IS
7/30/09 15:06:58 NOT GOOD.
7/30/09 15:07:00 IT IS NOT GOOD ON PROFESSIONAL
7/30/09 15:07:02 SERVICES BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK
7/30/09 15:07:05 AT IT, AFRICAN
7/30/09 15:07:05 AMERICANS DID
7/30/09 15:07:05 ZERO.
7/30/09 15:07:06 OKAY.
7/30/09 15:07:07 AND THEN YOU GO AND LOOK AT THE
7/30/09 15:07:10 CHART, YOU LOOK AT WHAT
7/30/09 15:07:12 WAS THE
7/30/09 15:07:15 TARGET
7/30/09 15:07:16 AVAILABILITY PLUS
7/30/09 15:07:20 UTILIZATION, LOOK
7/30/09 15:07:23 AT AFRICAN
7/30/09 15:07:23 AMERICANS.
7/30/09 15:07:26 AVAILABILITY WAS 9.4 BUT IT WAS
7/30/09 15:07:26 ZERO.
7/30/09 15:07:27 PEOPLE GOT BUSINESS BUT WE
7/30/09 15:07:30 HAVEN'T PAID THEM OUT YET, WE
7/30/09 15:07:32 CAN ONLY DO WHAT IS BEFORE US.
7/30/09 15:07:35 THAT WILL BE REFLECTED MARCH
7/30/09 15:07:35 2010.
7/30/09 15:07:38 BUT ON THE CAUCASIAN
7/30/09 15:07:40 MALE THE
7/30/09 15:07:42 AVAILABILITY WAS 40.7 PERCENT
7/30/09 15:07:44 BUT THEY GOT NINE 8.1 PERCENT
7/30/09 15:07:45 OF THE BUSINESS.
7/30/09 15:07:48 >> THE CAUCASIAN MALES ARE
7/30/09 15:07:49 DOING VERY WELL.
7/30/09 15:07:50 >> MY WON'T IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT
7/30/09 15:07:52 THE DATA, YOU KNOW AND I HEAR
7/30/09 15:07:54 WHAT THE STAFF IS SAYING, I AM
7/30/09 15:07:56 SAYING THAT IS WHY YOU CAN'T
7/30/09 15:07:57 WAIT THE FIVE YEARS YOU GOT TO
7/30/09 15:08:00 --YOU CAN'T MAKE THOSE CHANGES
7/30/09 15:08:02 I UNDERSTAND THAT FROM A LEGAL
7/30/09 15:08:02 STAND POINT.
7/30/09 15:08:04 YOU GOT TO HAVE AT LEAST THREE
7/30/09 15:08:05 YEARS OF DATA.
7/30/09 15:08:07 WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT WHILE YOU
7/30/09 15:08:09 MAY BE MEETING SOME TARGET
7/30/09 15:08:11 AREAS, IN OTHERS YOU ARE NOT
7/30/09 15:08:12 MEETING TARGET AREAS BASED ON
7/30/09 15:08:13 WHAT I HAVE BEFORE ME.
7/30/09 15:08:16 WHAT I HAVE AGAIN IS
7/30/09 15:08:16 PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
7/30/09 15:08:19 THE OTHER I WILL POINT OUT IN
7/30/09 15:08:21 TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION, WHAT
7/30/09 15:08:24 KIND OF PARTICIPATION HAVE YOU
7/30/09 15:08:25 GOTTEN ABOVE $500,000.
7/30/09 15:08:25 OKAY.
7/30/09 15:08:28 THAT IS THE OTHER ISSUE
7/30/09 15:08:29 THAT IS
7/30/09 15:08:29 OUT THERE.
7/30/09 15:08:30 OKAY.
7/30/09 15:08:32 THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I RAISE
7/30/09 15:08:34 WHAT IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS HAS
7/30/09 15:08:37 BEEN USED OUTSIDE
7/30/09 15:08:37 OF
7/30/09 15:08:38 CONSTRUCTION SERVICES TO
7/30/09 15:08:40 INCLUDE SMALL AND MINORITY
7/30/09 15:08:40 BUSINESS.
7/30/09 15:08:41 YOU UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION?
7/30/09 15:08:42 >> YES, SIR.
7/30/09 15:08:44 >> SEE THOSE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
7/30/09 15:08:45 THE OTHER THING IS SHELTER
7/30/09 15:08:46 MARKET.
7/30/09 15:08:47 I DON'T SEE --THAT IS THE
7/30/09 15:08:49 BOND WAIVING PIECE ON THE
7/30/09 15:08:50 SHELTER MARKETING AND FROM WHAT
7/30/09 15:08:53 I CAN SEE NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE
7/30/09 15:08:54 IN REGARDS TO IM34RE
7/30/09 15:08:55 ARGUMENTATION OF THAT.
7/30/09 15:08:57 I GUESS THE QUESTION --
7/30/09 15:08:57 IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT.
7/30/09 15:08:59 I GUESS QUESTION IS, IS THAT
7/30/09 15:09:01 PROCESS IN PLACE UNDER THE
7/30/09 15:09:03 SHELTER MARKET, THE BOND
7/30/09 15:09:03 WAIVING PROVISION.
7/30/09 15:09:06 I COULD GO ON DOWN THE LIST OF
7/30/09 15:09:08 ITEMS OF QUESTIONS I HAVE
7/30/09 15:09:11 BECAUSE THE ONLY COVERING
7/30/09 15:09:12 IN
7/30/09 15:09:12 TWO CATEGORIES.
7/30/09 15:09:15 $500,000 OR LESS, 25,000
7/30/09 15:09:15 DOLLARS OR LESS.
7/30/09 15:09:16 OKAY.
7/30/09 15:09:17 WELL, SO YOU HAVE TO REALLY
7/30/09 15:09:20 LOOK AT THE OVERALL PICTURE
7/30/09 15:09:23 IN
7/30/09 15:09:23 TERMS OF PARTICIPATION, IN
7/30/09 15:09:26 ORDER TO REALLY GET A FULL
7/30/09 15:09:28 PICTURE BECAUSE YOU ONLY
7/30/09 15:09:28 ADDRESS TWO AREAS.
7/30/09 15:09:30 I WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE
7/30/09 15:09:32 RECORD BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT
7/30/09 15:09:34 FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
7/30/09 15:09:35 IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS OR
7/30/09 15:09:37 STRATEGIES THAT YOU ARE GOING
7/30/09 15:09:39 THE USE, EVEN WHAT HAPPEN WITH
7/30/09 15:09:40 THOSE TO IMPROVE THE 25,000
7/30/09 15:09:41 DOLLARS OR UNDER.
7/30/09 15:09:43 YOU GOT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF
7/30/09 15:09:43 STRATEGY.
7/30/09 15:09:45 YOU GOT TO PUT SOMETHING IN
7/30/09 15:09:46 PLACE TO HELP SOME OF THESE
7/30/09 15:09:48 BUSINESSES WHO ARE NOT DOING
7/30/09 15:09:48 WELL.
7/30/09 15:09:50 SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE DATA, AND
7/30/09 15:09:51 I REALLY SIT DOWN AND READ
7/30/09 15:09:53 THROUGH THAT AND TRY TO GET AN
7/30/09 15:09:54 UNDERSTANDING OF THAT NOW, IT
7/30/09 15:09:55 IS A GOOD START, DON'T GET ME
7/30/09 15:09:59 WRONG, IT IS A GOOD START,
7/30/09 15:09:59 GOOD
7/30/09 15:10:01 INFORMATION, MY ISSUE IS ALWAYS
7/30/09 15:10:03 THAT EVERY BUSINESS IN THE CITY
7/30/09 15:10:04 OF TAMPA, OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO
7/30/09 15:10:07 DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.
7/30/09 15:10:07 OKAY.
7/30/09 15:10:10 NO MATTER WHO IT IS BLACK,
7/30/09 15:10:11 WHITE, HISPANIC, ASIAN, THEY
7/30/09 15:10:13 NEED TO BE AFFORDED THE SAME
7/30/09 15:10:16 OPPORTUNITY TO DO
7/30/09 15:10:17 BUSINESS 13
7/30/09 15:10:18 AND DO WELL WITH THE CITY.
7/30/09 15:10:21 SO THAT IS MY INPUT
7/30/09 15:10:23 FROM THAT.
7/30/09 15:10:24 COUNCIL WOMAN MULHERN.
7/30/09 15:10:26 >> ARE YOU SURE YOU ARE DONE?
7/30/09 15:10:28 >> I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP ALL
7/30/09 15:10:29 THE TIME.
7/30/09 15:10:31 >> I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
7/30/09 15:10:34 THEY ARE ALONG THE SAME LINES
7/30/09 15:10:34 AS YOURS.
7/30/09 15:10:36 I WILL TRY NOT TO TAKE TOO MUCH
7/30/09 15:10:36 TIME UP.
7/30/09 15:10:38 A LOT OF MY --WHAT I WOULD
7/30/09 15:10:41 REALLY LIKE TO DO IS
7/30/09 15:10:44 WORK
7/30/09 15:10:46 WITH
7/30/09 15:10:48 YOU AND --ON THE LOCAL
7/30/09 15:10:50 BUSINESS RESEARCH WE WANT TO
7/30/09 15:10:50 DO.
7/30/09 15:10:53 OUR INITIAL REPORT WE
7/30/09 15:10:56 GOT FROM
7/30/09 15:10:58 MR. SPEAR MAN DIDN'T SEEM TO
7/30/09 15:11:00 JIVE WITH THIS AT ALL.
7/30/09 15:11:02 IT SEEMS LIKE THIS WOULD BE
7/30/09 15:11:03 MORE OF A --IT IS MORE IN
7/30/09 15:11:06 YOUR AREA TO LOOK AT THAT
7/30/09 15:11:09 IN
7/30/09 15:11:12 THE FUTURE.
7/30/09 15:11:13 BECAUSE MY QUESTIONS HAVE TO DO
7/30/09 15:11:15 WITH THE SAME THINGS CHAIRMAN
7/30/09 15:11:16 SCOTT WAS ASKING ABOUT WHAT
7/30/09 15:11:18 ABILITY ALL THE OTHER
7/30/09 15:11:21 CATEGORIES AS FAR AS THE
7/30/09 15:11:21 AMOUNT
7/30/09 15:11:24 OF THE CON FACT, AND SOME OTHER
7/30/09 15:11:24 THINGS.
7/30/09 15:11:26 SO I HAVE COME QUESTIONS I
7/30/09 15:11:28 DON'T NECESSARILY EXPECT YOU TO
7/30/09 15:11:30 HAVE THE ANSWERS RIGHT NOW, BUT
7/30/09 15:11:32 IF WE COULD GET THEM.
7/30/09 15:11:35 ONE ABOUT THE
7/30/09 15:11:36 SLBEs.
7/30/09 15:11:37 THE SHELTERED MARKETS ARE --
7/30/09 15:11:40 THEY HAVE TO HAVE
7/30/09 15:11:40 AN AVERAGE
7/30/09 15:11:42 INCOME OF $200,000 OR LESS AND
7/30/09 15:11:45 I WAS WONDERING WHY YOU
7/30/09 15:11:47 HAD
7/30/09 15:11:49 THAT 200,000 NUMBER BECAUSE I
7/30/09 15:11:52 THINK I SAW IN THE BACK
7/30/09 15:11:55 HERE ON
7/30/09 15:12:00 THE STATE LEVEL I LOST THE PAGE
7/30/09 15:12:02 BUT HOW DO YOU ARRIVE AT THAT
7/30/09 15:12:03 200,000.
7/30/09 15:12:04 >> THERE ARE A COUPLE OF
7/30/09 15:12:06 REASONS THE PRIMARY REASON HAS
7/30/09 15:12:09 TO DO WITH THE STATE STATUTE
7/30/09 15:12:09 WHICH ALLOWS US TO WAIVE BONDS
7/30/09 15:12:12 IF THE VALUE OF THE CONTRACT IS
7/30/09 15:12:15 $200,000 OR LESS.
7/30/09 15:12:15 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 15:12:15 OKAY.
7/30/09 15:12:18 >> WHICH THE COUNTY HAS BEEN,
7/30/09 15:12:19 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY DOES DO
7/30/09 15:12:22 THAT, BY THE WAY.
7/30/09 15:12:23 IT GOT APPROVAL THROUGH THE
7/30/09 15:12:23 STATE TO THE THAT.
7/30/09 15:12:25 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY
7/30/09 15:12:27 POSITION IS BUT COUNTY DOES
7/30/09 15:12:27 THAT.
7/30/09 15:12:29 >> SECONDLY JUST FOR
7/30/09 15:12:30 INFORMATION,.
7/30/09 15:12:32 >> ARE WE DOING.
7/30/09 15:12:34 >> $500,000 HAPPENS TO FALL
7/30/09 15:12:37 WITHIN THAT RANGE GIVEN THE
7/30/09 15:12:40 CAPACITY THAT
7/30/09 15:12:43 OUR SMALL FIRMS
7/30/09 15:12:46 HAVE TO PERFORM
7/30/09 15:12:46 ON PRIME
7/30/09 15:12:49 CONTRACTS AT
7/30/09 15:12:50 THAT LEVEL.
7/30/09 15:12:52 >> BUT IF THAT IS THE NUMBER
7/30/09 15:12:54 YOU ARE WORKING WITH, THEN
7/30/09 15:12:57 PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING MORE THAN
7/30/09 15:12:59 THAT AREN'T GOING TO TRY TO BE
7/30/09 15:13:00 PART OF IT.
7/30/09 15:13:01 >> AND THEY ARE IN LINE.
7/30/09 15:13:03 >> I DON'T FIT IN THAT
7/30/09 15:13:04 CATEGORY.
7/30/09 15:13:04 I WON'T BOTHER.
7/30/09 15:13:07 >> WELL, YOU HAVE TO DRAW
7/30/09 15:13:08 A
7/30/09 15:13:08 BASELINE SOMEWHERE.
7/30/09 15:13:10 THEY ARE IN LINE --THERE IN
7/30/09 15:13:13 LIES THE NATURE OF THE SMALL,
7/30/09 15:13:14 LOCAL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE
7/30/09 15:13:17 PROGRAM AND THE EFFORT WE MAKE
7/30/09 15:13:19 TO ENSURE THAT THE SMALL
7/30/09 15:13:21 BUSINESSES HAVE ACCESS AND A
7/30/09 15:13:23 DECENT OPPORTUNITY TO
7/30/09 15:13:23 PARTICIPATE.
7/30/09 15:13:24 >> RIGHT.
7/30/09 15:13:27 I THINK IT IS
7/30/09 15:13:28 IMPORTANT, BUT I
7/30/09 15:13:30 ALSO THINK IF --WHICH I THINK
7/30/09 15:13:33 IF AT LEAST IS THIS COUNCIL'S
7/30/09 15:13:36 ULTIMATE GOAL TO HAVE MORE
7/30/09 15:13:37 WOMEN IN MINORITY PARTICIPATION
7/30/09 15:13:37 THAT
7/30/09 15:13:41 --AND THIS IS PART OF WHY I
7/30/09 15:13:41 AM
7/30/09 15:13:43 SO INTERESTED IN LOCAL BUSINESS
7/30/09 15:13:45 PREFERENCES BECAUSE YES, YOU
7/30/09 15:13:47 SAY THAT THESE HELP WITH BEING
7/30/09 15:13:48 AN INCUBATOR FOR SMALL
7/30/09 15:13:50 BUSINESS, BUT THEN A LOT OF
7/30/09 15:13:52 TIMES THE BUSINESSES GET TO THE
7/30/09 15:13:53 POINT WHERE YOU KNOW FOR
7/30/09 15:13:54 INSTANCE THEY ARE MAKING MORE
7/30/09 15:13:55 THAN $2 MILLION A YEAR.
7/30/09 15:13:57 THAT WAS THE QUESTION I HAD
7/30/09 15:14:00 BECAUSE IN THE STATES,
7/30/09 15:14:01 LAW,
7/30/09 15:14:03 DEFINITION IT LOOKED LIKE YOU
7/30/09 15:14:06 COULD HAVE A WORK NET WORTH OF
7/30/09 15:14:09 $5 MILLION WE ARE SAYING
7/30/09 15:14:09 YOU
7/30/09 15:14:12 CAN ONLY HAVE --YOU KNOW IT
7/30/09 15:14:14 IS CUT OFF AT $2 MILLION.
7/30/09 15:14:14 >> RIGHT.
7/30/09 15:14:17 >> THERE ARE SOME PROGRAMS
7/30/09 15:14:19 PARTICULARLY AT THE FEDERAL
7/30/09 15:14:22 LEVEL WHERE THEY
7/30/09 15:14:23 INCLUDE A
7/30/09 15:14:25 REQUIREMENT THAT NET WORTH BE
7/30/09 15:14:28 EVALUATED AND THEY HAVE CAPS
7/30/09 15:14:29 BOTH BASED ON THE OWNERS NET
7/30/09 15:14:33 WORTH AS WELL ADDS THE
7/30/09 15:14:34 GROSS
7/30/09 15:14:36 RECEIPTS THAT THE BUSINESS
7/30/09 15:14:37 EARNS.
7/30/09 15:14:39 OURS IS $2 MILLION GROSS
7/30/09 15:14:40 REVENUE CAP AND ANOTHER FACTOR
7/30/09 15:14:41 JUST TO MENTION IS THE LAST
7/30/09 15:14:43 TIME WE DID SOME RESEARCH, IN
7/30/09 15:14:46 THE STATE
7/30/09 15:14:48 OF FLORIDA, THE
7/30/09 15:14:49 PREDOMINANT SMALL BUSINESSES
7/30/09 15:14:52 HAD GROSS SALES OF UNDER $2
7/30/09 15:14:52 MILLION.
7/30/09 15:14:55 NOW THAT IS A MOVING TARGET.
7/30/09 15:14:56 >> YEAH.
7/30/09 15:14:56 >> BUT.
7/30/09 15:14:57 >> I GUESS --
7/30/09 15:14:59 >> THIS HAS BAN HOT OF THOUGHT
7/30/09 15:15:02 AND RATIONAL THAT HAS GONE INTO
7/30/09 15:15:02 THE REQUIREMENTS.
7/30/09 15:15:04 THEY ARE NOT ARBITRARY.
7/30/09 15:15:06 >>>I WILL DIDN'T THINK THEY
7/30/09 15:15:06 WERE.
7/30/09 15:15:09 I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE
7/30/09 15:15:10 OUT
7/30/09 15:15:11 THE REASONING.
7/30/09 15:15:13 WHAT PERCENTAGE OF CITY
7/30/09 15:15:15 CONTRACTS, OVERALL, ALL ARE
7/30/09 15:15:18 CONTRACTS, WOULD
7/30/09 15:15:20 BE UNDER
7/30/09 15:15:23 $200,000 IF YOU TOTALED
7/30/09 15:15:25 UP ALL
7/30/09 15:15:25 THE CONTRACTS.
7/30/09 15:15:28 >> YOU MEAN NUMBERS
7/30/09 15:15:31 OR
7/30/09 15:15:32 DOLLARS?
7/30/09 15:15:34 >> $200,000, THE CONTRACTS SAY
7/30/09 15:15:36 FOR ONE YEAR THAT END UP BEING
7/30/09 15:15:39 COVERED UNDER THAT SHELTERED
7/30/09 15:15:42 MARKET, IF YOU
7/30/09 15:15:44 LOOKED AT THAT,
7/30/09 15:15:46 HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO THE
7/30/09 15:15:48 TOE FALL YOU ADDED ALL THOSE
7/30/09 15:15:49 CONTRACTS TOGETHER, HOW DOES
7/30/09 15:15:52 THAT COMPARE TO CONTRACTS
7/30/09 15:15:53 THAT
7/30/09 15:15:54 ARE MORE THAN 200,000?
7/30/09 15:15:55 YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
7/30/09 15:15:58 >> WE HAVE THAT DATA AND CAN
7/30/09 15:15:58 PROVIDE IT.
7/30/09 15:16:00 >> YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEW
7/30/09 15:16:00 THAT.
7/30/09 15:16:01 THAT IS PART OF IT TOO.
7/30/09 15:16:02 WE ARE --SEE THAT.
7/30/09 15:16:04 THAT IS PART OF IT TOO.
7/30/09 15:16:06 WE ARE TRYING TO HELP SMALL AND
7/30/09 15:16:08 LOCAL BUSINESSES AND WOMEN AND
7/30/09 15:16:10 MINORITY BUSINESSES BUT IF WE
7/30/09 15:16:13 ARE MAKING A CATEGORY
7/30/09 15:16:14 WE CAN
7/30/09 15:16:16 HELP THEM IN SO SMALL IT IS
7/30/09 15:16:16 HARD TO MEASURE THAT.
7/30/09 15:16:19 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.
7/30/09 15:16:21 >> AND THE OTHER QUESTION, THIS
7/30/09 15:16:23 IS ALONG THE SAME LINES, WHAT
7/30/09 15:16:27 PERCENTAGE OF THE
7/30/09 15:16:29 TOTAL
7/30/09 15:16:32 CONTRACT DOLLARS ARE
7/30/09 15:16:38 GIVEN TO
7/30/09 15:16:44 IS THAT THE SAME, I THINK I AM
7/30/09 15:16:46 JUST WORDING THAT DIFFERENTLY.
7/30/09 15:16:49 I WANTED YOU TO INCLUDE THE NON-
7/30/09 15:16:49 SHELTERED MARKETS.
7/30/09 15:16:52 I THINK THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE
7/30/09 15:16:54 SAME QUESTION THERE.
7/30/09 15:16:54 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 15:16:57 >> DON'T WORRY
7/30/09 15:16:58 ABOUT THAT.
7/30/09 15:16:59 THEN WMBE, THIS IS A SIMILAR
7/30/09 15:17:01 QUESTION TOO BUT DO YOU HAVE
7/30/09 15:17:04 THESE FIVE INDUSTRY CATEGORIES
7/30/09 15:17:07 AND I WAS WONDERING WITH
7/30/09 15:17:13 ALL
7/30/09 15:17:15 OF
7/30/09 15:17:17 OUR CONTRACTS HOW --WHAT
7/30/09 15:17:19 PERCENTAGE OR DOLLAR AMOUNTS
7/30/09 15:17:22 ARE IN THOSE
7/30/09 15:17:22 INDUSTRY
7/30/09 15:17:25 CATEGORYWHAT PERCENTAGE ARE
7/30/09 15:17:25 NOT.
7/30/09 15:17:28 SO WE COULD SORT OF --THAT
7/30/09 15:17:29 WAS PROBABLY ANOTHER ONE.
7/30/09 15:17:31 >> WE HAVE ALL THAT DETAIL.
7/30/09 15:17:33 DIDN'T WANT TO INUNDATE YOU
7/30/09 15:17:36 WITH ALL OF
7/30/09 15:17:38 IT.
7/30/09 15:17:39 >> YEAH.
7/30/09 15:17:40 OKAY THEN THIS IS MY QUESTION.
7/30/09 15:17:42 I HOPE THAT YOU CAN HELP US AS
7/30/09 15:17:45 WE LOOK AT POSSIBILITY
7/30/09 15:17:47 OF LOCAL
7/30/09 15:17:47 BUSINESS PREFERENCES BECAUSE
7/30/09 15:17:50 WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR CONTRACTS,
7/30/09 15:17:53 IT SEEMS LIKE I GET A DIFFERENT
7/30/09 15:17:56 STORY FROM YOU THAN WE
7/30/09 15:17:57 GET FROM
7/30/09 15:17:58 MR. SPEARMAN.
7/30/09 15:18:00 SO PURCHASING DOLLARS, IT IS
7/30/09 15:18:03 NOT INCLUDED IN THIS BECAUSE
7/30/09 15:18:05 YOU HAVE SPECIFIC CONTRACTS YOU
7/30/09 15:18:06 ARE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT?
7/30/09 15:18:08 >> LET'S SEE IF I CAN ANSWER
7/30/09 15:18:08 THAT.
7/30/09 15:18:11 IT IS INCLUDED BUT IN TERMS OF
7/30/09 15:18:13 FIRST OF ALL LET ME PREFERENCE
7/30/09 15:18:15 MY COMMENTS WITH AS THE SMALL
7/30/09 15:18:17 BUSINESS MINORITY BUSINESS
7/30/09 15:18:19 MANAGER, IMPLEMENTING THESE
7/30/09 15:18:22 PROGRAMS, FROM A PROFESSIONAL
7/30/09 15:18:25 STAND POINT, THE LOCAL
7/30/09 15:18:28 PREFERENCE DISCUSSION AND
7/30/09 15:18:29 THE
7/30/09 15:18:32 ISSUES WITHIN
7/30/09 15:18:38 THAT DISCUSSION
7/30/09 15:18:40 BECAUSE WE ARE UNDER --WE
7/30/09 15:18:41 HAVE DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES FOR
7/30/09 15:18:42 THE MOST PART.
7/30/09 15:18:44 BUT THE ANSWER YOUR QUESTION,
7/30/09 15:18:46 THAT INFORMATION IS INCLUDED IN
7/30/09 15:18:48 MY DATA, HOWEVER, KEEP IN MIND,
7/30/09 15:18:51 IN TERMS OF ANY KIND
7/30/09 15:18:52 OF
7/30/09 15:18:54 ANALYSIS OF UTILIZATION AND
7/30/09 15:18:57 AVAILABILITY, IT IS BASED ONLY
7/30/09 15:18:59 ON CONTRACTS AWARDED DURING
7/30/09 15:19:00 THAT PERIOD OF REPORT TIME, IN
7/30/09 15:19:03 THIS CASE A YEAR, AND
7/30/09 15:19:04 ONLY THE
7/30/09 15:19:06 PAYMENTS SO WHEN I AM
7/30/09 15:19:07 DISCUSSING DOLLARS THAT WENT
7/30/09 15:19:10 INTO THE POCKETS OF OUR
7/30/09 15:19:12 WNBES
7/30/09 15:19:15 AND SOBE, I AM SPEAKING OF
7/30/09 15:19:15 PAYMENTS ACTUALLY MADE, NOT
7/30/09 15:19:18 WHAT IS TO COME NEXT YEAR AS
7/30/09 15:19:21 THE PROJECT CONTINUES TO
7/30/09 15:19:23 BE
7/30/09 15:19:23 EXECUTED.
7/30/09 15:19:25 MR. SPEARMAN'S DATA,
7/30/09 15:19:26 PURCHASING'S DATA IS ALSO
7/30/09 15:19:28 ACCURATE BUT I AM TAKING A
7/30/09 15:19:31 SUBSET OF THAT DATA AND
7/30/09 15:19:33 DOING
7/30/09 15:19:33 MY EVALUATION.
7/30/09 15:19:33 ANALYSIS.
7/30/09 15:19:34 LET ME ALSO SAY, AND I AM NOT
7/30/09 15:19:36 GOING TO GET INTO IT TOO MUCH
7/30/09 15:19:39 BECAUSE IT IS FOR
7/30/09 15:19:42 THE LOCAL
7/30/09 15:19:42 PREFERENCE DISCUSSION, 75
7/30/09 15:19:45 PERCENT OF ALL OF
7/30/09 15:19:47 THE CONTRACTS
7/30/09 15:19:49 AWARDED WENT TO BUSINESSES
7/30/09 15:19:52 LOCATED IN
7/30/09 15:19:53 OUR SLBE MARKET
7/30/09 15:19:53 AREA.
7/30/09 15:19:56 THAT IS
7/30/09 15:19:59 WITHOUT
7/30/09 15:20:00 REGARD TO SIZE.
7/30/09 15:20:03 >> TO BUSINESSES WITHIN THE
7/30/09 15:20:03 AREA.
7/30/09 15:20:04 >> PASCAL, MANATEE.
7/30/09 15:20:07 >> 75 PERCENT OF THE CONTRACTS
7/30/09 15:20:10 WERE AWARDED
7/30/09 15:20:10 TO SLBEs?
7/30/09 15:20:13 >> NO, 75 PERCENT OF ALL
7/30/09 15:20:15 CONTRACTS AWARDED WERE WITHIN
7/30/09 15:20:17 THE SLBE MARKET AREA.
7/30/09 15:20:18 >> MARKET AREA.
7/30/09 15:20:18 RIGHT PGH
7/30/09 15:20:21 >> THEN OF THAT NUMBER, THE
7/30/09 15:20:24 PERCENT
7/30/09 15:20:25 AND NUMBER OF THOSE
7/30/09 15:20:28 PRIME CONTRACTORS WHO WERE
7/30/09 15:20:29 SLBE
7/30/09 15:20:29 CERTIFIED.
7/30/09 15:20:32 SAME NUMBERS WE ARE USING BUT
7/30/09 15:20:33 WE ARE EVALUATING AT LEAST I AM
7/30/09 15:20:36 IN THE CONTEXT OF OUR PROGRAM
7/30/09 15:20:37 IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
7/30/09 15:20:38 >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.
7/30/09 15:20:41 I AM TRYING TO GIVE
7/30/09 15:20:43 YOU MORE
7/30/09 15:20:43 WORK.
7/30/09 15:20:44 >>> SO THAT RAISES THE QUESTION
7/30/09 15:20:47 FOR ME
7/30/09 15:20:50 AND THANK
7/30/09 15:20:52 YOU YOU
7/30/09 15:20:52 ANSWERED THOSE DEFINITION
7/30/09 15:20:55 QUESTIONS I HAD AND THE
7/30/09 15:20:57 DEFINITIONS ARE DIFFERENT.
7/30/09 15:21:00 WHAT YOU ARE USING ARE NOT
7/30/09 15:21:01 WHAT
7/30/09 15:21:01 HE GAVE US.
7/30/09 15:21:04 SO THAT IS WHAT I AM
7/30/09 15:21:05 TRYING TO
7/30/09 15:21:05 FIGURE OUT.
7/30/09 15:21:07 WHERE IS THIS DISPARITY.
7/30/09 15:21:10 HE SAID AS LONG AS
7/30/09 15:21:15 A BUSINESS
7/30/09 15:21:17 HAD AN OFFICE WITHIN THE MARKET
7/30/09 15:21:20 AREA THEN IT WAS A LOCAL
7/30/09 15:21:20 BUSINESS.
7/30/09 15:21:21 YOUR DEFINITION SEEMS TO BE
7/30/09 15:21:23 MUCH MORE --IS IT BECAUSE HE
7/30/09 15:21:26 WAS TALKING ABOUT
7/30/09 15:21:29 THE LOCAL
7/30/09 15:21:29 BUSINESS DEFINITION?
7/30/09 15:21:31 HE USES A DIFFERENT DEFINITION.
7/30/09 15:21:32 YOURS IS VERY GOOD.
7/30/09 15:21:34 IT DOES MAKE IT LOCAL.
7/30/09 15:21:36 >> HIS IS ALSO A TRUE STATEMENT
7/30/09 15:21:38 IF I UNDERSTAND IT, ANY
7/30/09 15:21:41 BUSINESS LOCATED WITHIN THE
7/30/09 15:21:43 SLB
7/30/09 15:21:46 MARKET AREA, IS IN
7/30/09 15:21:48 FACT, LOCAL.
7/30/09 15:21:49 >> RIGHT WHAT HE STAID WAS AS
7/30/09 15:21:51 LONG --SAID WAS AS LONG AS
7/30/09 15:21:53 THEY HAD AN OFFICE HERE, IT HAD
7/30/09 15:21:55 NOTHING TO DO, THE OWNERSHIP
7/30/09 15:21:56 REQUIREMENT WASN'T THERE,
7/30/09 15:21:59 RESIDENCY OF THE OWNER
7/30/09 15:21:59 REQUIREMENT WASN'T THERE.
7/30/09 15:22:01 I WOULD JUST LIKE TO FIGURE
7/30/09 15:22:02 THAT OUT.
7/30/09 15:22:03 >> IF I COULD PUT IT TO REST.
7/30/09 15:22:06 >> CAN I JUST MAKE A
7/30/09 15:22:07 SUGGESTION.
7/30/09 15:22:09 FIRST OF ALL, WE ARE HAVING
7/30/09 15:22:11 NEXT THURSDAY AT 6:00 P.M.
7/30/09 15:22:13 A WORKSHOP ON THE LOCAL THING.
7/30/09 15:22:15 IF I SPENT AN HOUR TALKING TO
7/30/09 15:22:16 YOU IT WAS THE MOST CONFUSING
7/30/09 15:22:19 THING AND BY THE END OF IT I
7/30/09 15:22:20 BEGAN TO GET SOME CLARITY.
7/30/09 15:22:22 WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS EXACTLY
7/30/09 15:22:25 WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO
7/30/09 15:22:26 MISS
7/30/09 15:22:27 MULHERN AND MR. SCOTT, GET THE
7/30/09 15:22:30 TWO THINGS SIDE BY SIDE.
7/30/09 15:22:32 ONE IS A SUBSET OF ANOTHER HERE
7/30/09 15:22:34 AND SET ASIDES ARE SHELTERS ARE
7/30/09 15:22:38 PART OF GETTING AT WHAT WITH
7/30/09 15:22:38 RETRYING TO DO.
7/30/09 15:22:41 WE --YOU HAVE
7/30/09 15:22:42 YOUR LEGAL
7/30/09 15:22:43 CONSTRAINTS, MR. SPEARMAN HAS
7/30/09 15:22:44 HIS.
7/30/09 15:22:46 WE ARE TRYING TO GET TOTE GOOD
7/30/09 15:22:47 OF THE COMMUNITY.
7/30/09 15:22:49 WE NEED BOTH OF YOU IN THE SAME
7/30/09 15:22:51 PLACE WITH BOTH OF YOUR TWO
7/30/09 15:22:51 PROGRAMS.
7/30/09 15:22:53 WE NEED TO ASK QUESTIONS OF
7/30/09 15:22:55 BOTH OF YOU AT THE SAME TIME.
7/30/09 15:22:56 >> I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT IS
7/30/09 15:22:59 GOING TO WORK OR NOT BECAUSE
7/30/09 15:23:00 YOU ARE TALKING AGAIN TWO DITCH
7/30/09 15:23:02 RENT PROGRAMS WITH TWO
7/30/09 15:23:03 DIFFERENT LOCAL REQUIREMENTS.
7/30/09 15:23:03 THAT IS ISSUE.
7/30/09 15:23:05 YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
7/30/09 15:23:08 WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT
7/30/09 15:23:10 LOCAL PREFERENCE WHAT HE IS
7/30/09 15:23:12 TALKING ABOUT SLBE, THE
7/30/09 15:23:13 BOUNDARIES ARE DIFFERENT.
7/30/09 15:23:15 YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT CITY OF
7/30/09 15:23:17 TAMPA WHERE THEY ARE TALKING
7/30/09 15:23:20 ABOUT POLK COUNTY AND
7/30/09 15:23:20 THESE
7/30/09 15:23:22 OTHER COUNTIES, PASCO, RIGHT.
7/30/09 15:23:23 PINELLAS.
7/30/09 15:23:26 >> SO IF I
7/30/09 15:23:28 MIGHT MAKE ONE
7/30/09 15:23:29 STATEMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP
7/30/09 15:23:32 THE TWO
7/30/09 15:23:33 ISSUES SEPARATE.
7/30/09 15:23:35 SMALL LOCAL IN THE CONTEXT OF
7/30/09 15:23:38 OUR PROGRAM, SMALL IS BASED ON
7/30/09 15:23:41 BUSINESS SIZE AND
7/30/09 15:23:46 GROSS
7/30/09 15:23:46 RECEIPTS.
7/30/09 15:23:46 >> RIGHT.
7/30/09 15:23:49 I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT.
7/30/09 15:23:52 I THINK FOR ME, THE DATA, YOUR
7/30/09 15:23:54 DATA IS MUCH MORE DETAILED AND
7/30/09 15:23:56 MUCH STRONGER THAN WHAT WE GOT
7/30/09 15:23:57 TON LOCAL THING.
7/30/09 15:23:59 IT JUST SEEMS LOGICAL.
7/30/09 15:24:01 ALSO MR. FLETCHER AND I HAVE
7/30/09 15:24:04 DISCUSSED THIS AND HE DID
7/30/09 15:24:04 FEEL
7/30/09 15:24:07 THERE WAS, YOU KNOW,
7/30/09 15:24:08 AS WE
7/30/09 15:24:09 DISCUSSED THIS, THERE IS SOME
7/30/09 15:24:09 POSSIBILITY THIS COULD BECOME
7/30/09 15:24:11 PART OF --IF WE ARE GOING TO
7/30/09 15:24:13 LOOK AT A LOCAL BUSINESS
7/30/09 15:24:14 PREFERENCE IT COULD BE
7/30/09 15:24:15 SOMETHING BLENDED IN WITH THE
7/30/09 15:24:18 SMALL AND LOCAL BUSINESS
7/30/09 15:24:19 PREFERENCE ORDINANTS.
7/30/09 15:24:20 MR. IN WHICHER, ISN'T THAT ONE
7/30/09 15:24:22 OF THE POSESMENTS YOU TOLD ME?
7/30/09 15:24:23 THE REASON I AM ASKING THESE
7/30/09 15:24:26 QUESTIONS IS BECAUSE TODAY,
7/30/09 15:24:29 THIS MORNING, THE TRIBUNE HAD
7/30/09 15:24:30 THIS EDITORIAL WITH THESE
7/30/09 15:24:31 STATISTICS AND THESE CLAIMI
7/30/09 15:24:34 JUST DIDN'T THINK THEY WERE
7/30/09 15:24:34 RIGHT.
7/30/09 15:24:37 >> WELCOME TO THE WORLD
7/30/09 15:24:38 OF
7/30/09 15:24:38 POLITICS.
7/30/09 15:24:38 >> RIGHT.
7/30/09 15:24:40 I KNOW BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE
7/30/09 15:24:41 TALKING ABOUT THIS.
7/30/09 15:24:44 >> IF YOU GOING TO BE IN
7/30/09 15:24:46 POLITICS YOU GOING TOb GET
7/30/09 15:24:47 AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.
7/30/09 15:24:48 MAY NOT BE ACCURATE.
7/30/09 15:24:51 >>>I WILL KNOW BUT THEY ARE
7/30/09 15:24:52 SAYING THEY ARE DRUMMING UP
7/30/09 15:24:54 DON'T DO THIS LOCAL BUSINESS
7/30/09 15:24:55 STUFF WHICH I THINK ARE NOT THE
7/30/09 15:24:57 KIND OF ANSWERS WE HAVE BEEN
7/30/09 15:24:57 HEARING HERE.
7/30/09 15:24:59 >> FOR KNOW ANSWER YOUR
7/30/09 15:24:59 QUESTION.
7/30/09 15:25:01 IF I REFER YOU BACK TO THE
7/30/09 15:25:03 POLICY OPTIONS FOR COUNCIL TO
7/30/09 15:25:06 CONSIDER, THERE ARE A VARIETY
7/30/09 15:25:07 OF BAYS OF DENINING LOCAL.
7/30/09 15:25:09 I OUTLINED SOME OF THEM THERE.
7/30/09 15:25:12 ONE OF THEM WOULD BE
7/30/09 15:25:15 USING
7/30/09 15:25:18 THIS
7/30/09 15:25:21 CONCEPT OF DOMICILED BUSINESS
7/30/09 15:25:21 IN SOBE PROGRAM.
7/30/09 15:25:23 THERE IS A VARIETY OF THEM LAID
7/30/09 15:25:24 OUT.
7/30/09 15:25:26 >>>I WILL NEED TO REVIEW THAT.
7/30/09 15:25:28 >> MR. HART, I WOULD SUGGEST
7/30/09 15:25:29 THAT YOU GET BACK WITH US ON
7/30/09 15:25:31 SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE
7/30/09 15:25:31 RAISED.
7/30/09 15:25:33 I GUESS YOU HEARD SOME OF MY
7/30/09 15:25:33 QUESTIONS.
7/30/09 15:25:33 >> YES, SIR.
7/30/09 15:25:36 >> SOME OF THE
7/30/09 15:25:37 QUESTIONS BY
7/30/09 15:25:39 COUNCIL MULHERN AND I RACE THE
7/30/09 15:25:40 QUESTION ABOUT WHAT
7/30/09 15:25:42 PARTICIPATION HAVE YOU GOTTEN
7/30/09 15:25:44 ABOVE THE $500,000 BECAUSE THAT
7/30/09 15:25:45 IS NOT HERE.
7/30/09 15:25:47 WHAT IS THE PROCESS, HAVE YOU
7/30/09 15:25:50 USED OUTSIDE OF
7/30/09 15:25:50 CONSTRUCTION
7/30/09 15:25:53 SERVICES TO INCLUDE SMALL AND
7/30/09 15:25:54 MINORITY BUSINESSES.
7/30/09 15:25:55 THE BOND WAIVERRING PIECE,
7/30/09 15:25:58 SHELTER MARKET HAS NOT
7/30/09 15:26:01 ADDRESSED,
7/30/09 15:26:01 CONTRACTS UNDER
7/30/09 15:26:04 25,000 DOLLARS, IT DOES NOT
7/30/09 15:26:07 LOOK THAT GOOD FROM MY
7/30/09 15:26:08 STAND
7/30/09 15:26:09 POINT, WHAT IMPLEMENTATION
7/30/09 15:26:12 STRATEGIES ARE YOU LOOKING AT
7/30/09 15:26:15 IMPROVING, 25,000
7/30/09 15:26:16 DOLLARS
7/30/09 15:26:16 THRESHOLD BELOW.
7/30/09 15:26:19 AND THIS DATA ONLY
7/30/09 15:26:20 CAPTURE THE
7/30/09 15:26:22 $500,000, 25,000 DOLLARS OR
7/30/09 15:26:22 LESS.
7/30/09 15:26:24 SO I THINK YOU GOT A LOT OF
7/30/09 15:26:26 GOOD INFORMATION HERE, A LOT OF
7/30/09 15:26:28 GOOD DATA, APPRECIATE THAT VERY
7/30/09 15:26:30 MUCH BUT MORE QUESTIONS THAN I
7/30/09 15:26:32 THINK I HAVE RELATIVE TO WHAT
7/30/09 15:26:33 WE ARE GOING.
7/30/09 15:26:34 AGAIN, WE CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING
7/30/09 15:26:36 RIGHT NOW UNTIL YOU HAVE
7/30/09 15:26:37 SUFFICIENT DATA.
7/30/09 15:26:38 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
7/30/09 15:26:40 ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD IN
7/30/09 15:26:40 CLOSING?
7/30/09 15:26:43 >> THANK YOU WE HAVE A LOT
7/30/09 15:26:44 OF
7/30/09 15:26:45 THAT INFORMATION.
7/30/09 15:26:46 I APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS THAT
7/30/09 15:26:49 YOU HAVE AND WOULD LIKE
7/30/09 15:26:51 US TO
7/30/09 15:26:51 RESPOND TO.
7/30/09 15:26:54 ALSO I CERTAINLY DO
7/30/09 15:26:56 NOT WANT TO
7/30/09 15:26:57 IMPLY THAT AFTER ONE YEAR THAT
7/30/09 15:27:00 I AM OR THE CITY IS WHERE
7/30/09 15:27:00 WE
7/30/09 15:27:01 WANT TO BE.
7/30/09 15:27:04 OUR TARGET IS TO CONTINUE
7/30/09 15:27:05 TO
7/30/09 15:27:05 IMPROVE.
7/30/09 15:27:07 ONE YEAR IS ONE YEAR AND WE ARE
7/30/09 15:27:08 HEADING THAT WAY.
7/30/09 15:27:09 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 15:27:10 >> THANK YOU SIR.
7/30/09 15:27:11 THANK YOU COUNCIL.
7/30/09 15:27:12 >>>I WILL KNOW IT IS A LOT OF
7/30/09 15:27:14 WORK AND IT IS GREAT COMPARED
7/30/09 15:27:15 TO WHAT WE WERE --
7/30/09 15:27:16 >> IT WAS A START PGH
7/30/09 15:27:17 >> IT'S A START PGH
7/30/09 15:27:18 >> IT IS.
7/30/09 15:27:20 THANK YOU.
7/30/09 15:27:21 >> A COUPLE YEAR UHS THAT WERE
7/30/09 15:27:22 RAISED THIS MORNING THAT IS ON
7/30/09 15:27:25 YOUR LOCAL PREFERENCE ON NEXT
7/30/09 15:27:27 --SCHEDULE FOR NEXT THURSDAY,
7/30/09 15:27:29 I WILL NOT BE HERE, OKAY.
7/30/09 15:27:30 I WILL BE HERE IN THE MORNING
7/30/09 15:27:32 BUT I HAVE TO LEAVE THAT
7/30/09 15:27:33 AFTERNOON.
7/30/09 15:27:33 SORRY ABOUT THAT.
7/30/09 15:27:35 I THINK WE WILL HAVE TWO PEOPLE
7/30/09 15:27:36 OUT AGAIN NEXT WEEK.
7/30/09 15:27:38 >> WE SHOULD CONTINUE THAT.
7/30/09 15:27:40 >> I THINK WE MAY WANT TO
7/30/09 15:27:42 CONTINUE THAT SO WE CAN HAVE
7/30/09 15:27:43 FULL COUNCIL.
7/30/09 15:27:45 MY ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT I ASKED
7/30/09 15:27:48 MY AID TO LOOK AT OUR
7/30/09 15:27:49 CALENDARTHEY ARE BOOKED SOLID
7/30/09 15:27:52 FOR THE MONTH OF AUGUST
7/30/09 15:27:53 AND
7/30/09 15:27:53 SEPTEMBER.
7/30/09 15:27:54 AND THEN NEXT DEVELOPMENT DAY
7/30/09 15:27:55 IS 22 ND.
7/30/09 15:27:58 I AM OUT OF TOWN FOR SOME
7/30/09 15:28:00 REASON ON THE 22 ND P. AFTER
7/30/09 15:28:03 THAT NOVEMBER 12th IN TERMS OF
7/30/09 15:28:03 WORKSHOP DAYS.
7/30/09 15:28:06 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE
7/30/09 15:28:06 A
7/30/09 15:28:07 SUGGESTION.
7/30/09 15:28:07 >> NOVEMBER.
7/30/09 15:28:09 >> YOU COMFORTABLE WITH
7/30/09 15:28:09 NOVEMBER?
7/30/09 15:28:12 >> THE LAST THURSDAY IN
7/30/09 15:28:12 OCTOBER, EVIDENTLY CABLE WILL
7/30/09 15:28:15 BE DOING SOME WORK ON THIS
7/30/09 15:28:15 ROOM.
7/30/09 15:28:16 IT DOESN'T MEAN WE COULDN'T
7/30/09 15:28:17 MEET IN ANOTHER ROOM.
7/30/09 15:28:20 I MEAN WE COULD HAVE A WORKSHOP
7/30/09 15:28:20 PHYSICALLY IN ANOTHER ROOM.
7/30/09 15:28:22 I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE
7/30/09 15:28:23 SHOULD LOOK INTO.
7/30/09 15:28:26 >> WELL, I DON'T RECOMMEND THAT
7/30/09 15:28:28 BECAUSE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC.
7/30/09 15:28:31 >> THERE CAN BE
7/30/09 15:28:32 ANOTHER ROOM
7/30/09 15:28:32 TELEVISED.
7/30/09 15:28:33 >>>I WILL HAVE BEEN TOLD IN THE
7/30/09 15:28:36 PAST IT IS VERY DIFFICULT
7/30/09 15:28:36 TO
7/30/09 15:28:37 DO.
7/30/09 15:28:37 BUT.
7/30/09 15:28:38 >> WELL, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO
7/30/09 15:28:41 DO BUT WE HAVE DONE THAT
7/30/09 15:28:42 IN THE
7/30/09 15:28:42 PAST.
7/30/09 15:28:44 >> WELL, COUNCIL MULHERN.
7/30/09 15:28:45 >> IT IS NOT TIME SENSITIVE AND
7/30/09 15:28:47 GIVES US MORE TIME.
7/30/09 15:28:49 >> YOU MAKE A MOTION.
7/30/09 15:28:52 >> YEAH, I THINK THAT IS OKAY.
7/30/09 15:28:52 NOVEMBER 12th.
7/30/09 15:28:54 >> SECOND TO THAT MOTION.
7/30/09 15:28:54 >> SECOND.
7/30/09 15:28:57 >> MOVE TO SECOND
7/30/09 15:28:58 THAT.
7/30/09 15:29:01 WE CONTINUE OUR PREFERENCE
7/30/09 15:29:04 WORKSHOP TO NOVEMBER
7/30/09 15:29:05 12th.
7/30/09 15:29:06 >> NOVEMBER 12th, M CHAIRMAN IS
7/30/09 15:29:09 ONE OF THOSE DAYS YOU FLIT CRA
7/30/09 15:29:12 WITH THE
7/30/09 15:29:13 WORKSHOP.
7/30/09 15:29:14 9:00 A.M.
7/30/09 15:29:16 CRA, 11:00 A.M.
7/30/09 15:29:16 WORKSHOP.
7/30/09 15:29:19 >> 11:00 A.M.
7/30/09 15:29:19 THEN?
7/30/09 15:29:19 >>> YES.
7/30/09 15:29:22 IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE CRA
7/30/09 15:29:23 AT
7/30/09 15:29:23 9:00 A.M.?
7/30/09 15:29:25 >> YES, AND YOU HAVE SCHEDULED
7/30/09 15:29:28 THE WORKSHOP TO BEGIN AT 11:00
7/30/09 15:29:29 A.M.
7/30/09 15:29:30 PRESENTATION OF OFFICERS OF THE
7/30/09 15:29:30 MONTH.
7/30/09 15:29:33 IF YOU SET IT AS 11:00 A.M.
7/30/09 15:29:35 >> SETH IT AT 10:30 A.M.
7/30/09 15:29:37 >> MOVE AND SECOND ALL IN
7/30/09 15:29:40 FAVOUR SIGNIFICANT ANY FIE
7/30/09 15:29:40 SAYING AYE.
7/30/09 15:29:41 >> AYE.
7/30/09 15:29:41 >> ANY NEW BUSINESS.
7/30/09 15:29:43 >>>I WILL A COUPLE THINGS SINCE
7/30/09 15:29:46 WE ARE
7/30/09 15:29:49 STILL ON TV.
7/30/09 15:29:50 SHOOT WHERE IS IT?
7/30/09 15:29:53 THE UNIVERSITY OF
7/30/09 15:29:56 SOUTH FLORIDA
7/30/09 15:29:59 IS HAVING A RENEWABLE
7/30/09 15:29:59 TECHNOLOGY
7/30/09 15:30:02 --THEY ARE HAVING A
7/30/09 15:30:03 BIG
7/30/09 15:30:03 CONFERENCE.
7/30/09 15:30:04 ONE THING THEY ARE DOING IS A
7/30/09 15:30:06 TOUR OF SOLAR HOMES.
7/30/09 15:30:09 AND THE WOMAN WHO IS DOING THE
7/30/09 15:30:11 TOUR IS HAVING TROUBLE LOCATING
7/30/09 15:30:12 VERY MANY SOLAR HOMES.
7/30/09 15:30:15 SHE WANTS TO DO IT IN
7/30/09 15:30:16 PROXIMITY
7/30/09 15:30:16 TO USF.
7/30/09 15:30:18 SHE WANTS TO FIND THEM IN TAMPA
7/30/09 15:30:20 OR AT LEAST HILLSBOROUGH
7/30/09 15:30:20 COUNTY.
7/30/09 15:30:23 SO I JUST WANTED ANYBODY
7/30/09 15:30:23 WHO
7/30/09 15:30:26 KNEW OF --OKAY SO IF
7/30/09 15:30:27 YOU KNOW
7/30/09 15:30:29 OF ANY YOU CAN LET ME KNOW AND
7/30/09 15:30:31 I WILL JUST LET HER KNOW.
7/30/09 15:30:31 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 15:30:33 >> ANYONE WHO HAPPENS TO BE
7/30/09 15:30:35 WATCHING AND KNOWS ABOUT SOME
7/30/09 15:30:37 SOLAR HOMES SHE HAS ONLY FOUND
7/30/09 15:30:37 SIX.
7/30/09 15:30:39 I KNOW THERE ARE MORE THAN SIX
7/30/09 15:30:40 HOUSES WITH SOLAR PANELS.
7/30/09 15:30:41 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 15:30:42 >> THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO
7/30/09 15:30:44 DO WAS TRY TO PUT ON OUR
7/30/09 15:30:47 CALENDAR WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT
7/30/09 15:30:50 ABOUT TODAY
7/30/09 15:30:52 DISCUSSING THE
7/30/09 15:30:52 TRANSCRIPT PROBLEM.
7/30/09 15:30:53 AND.
7/30/09 15:30:55 >> WHY DON'T WE ASK A REPORT
7/30/09 15:30:55 BACK.
7/30/09 15:30:56 >>>I WILL PORT FROM.
7/30/09 15:30:57 >> CABLE?
7/30/09 15:31:00 >> IS THAT FROM THE CLERK?
7/30/09 15:31:00 >> CABLE?
7/30/09 15:31:01 >> CABLE.
7/30/09 15:31:03 >> FROM CABLE IN TWO WEEKS
7/30/09 15:31:05 ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO SOLVE
7/30/09 15:31:08 THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A
7/30/09 15:31:10 LOT OF
7/30/09 15:31:10 ILLEGIBLE.
7/30/09 15:31:13 >> AUGUST 6th OR 20th.
7/30/09 15:31:15 >> LET'S DO IT THE 20th.
7/30/09 15:31:17 >> THE 20th.
7/30/09 15:31:20 >> MARY WILL BE HERE ON THE
7/30/09 15:31:20 SIXTH.
7/30/09 15:31:22 WE HAVE CRA THAT MORNING AT
7/30/09 15:31:23 9:00 A.M., THAT WILL TAKE ABOUT
7/30/09 15:31:26 AN HOUR OR
7/30/09 15:31:27 SO.
7/30/09 15:31:28 LET'S DO IT PGH
7/30/09 15:31:30 >> THE REQUEST IS INFORMATION
7/30/09 15:31:32 ABOUT THE TRANSCRIPTION
7/30/09 15:31:32 PROCESS?
7/30/09 15:31:34 >> AND SUGGESTIONS ON HOW IT
7/30/09 15:31:35 CAN BE IMPROVED.
7/30/09 15:31:37 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 15:31:37 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 15:31:40 >> INCLUDING WHO IS DOING THIS
7/30/09 15:31:42 FROM WHAT I HAVE HEARD FROM
7/30/09 15:31:44 COUNCIL, IT USED TO BE BETTER.
7/30/09 15:31:46 IT HASN'T BEEN GREAT SINCE I'VE
7/30/09 15:31:46 BEEN HERE.
7/30/09 15:31:49 >> YOU WOULD
7/30/09 15:31:50 LIKE BACKGROUND
7/30/09 15:31:50 INFORMATION.
7/30/09 15:31:51 >> AND SUGGESTIONS HOW TO
7/30/09 15:31:52 IMPROVE IT.
7/30/09 15:31:53 >> MOVE AND SECOND.
7/30/09 15:31:55 >> APPEAR IN PERSON.
7/30/09 15:31:57 >> SECOND ALL IN FAVOUR
7/30/09 15:32:00 SIGNIFICANT ANY FIE SAYING AYE.
7/30/09 15:32:01 >> ANYTHING ELSE?
7/30/09 15:32:02 RECEIVING FILE.
7/30/09 15:32:03 >> SECOND.
7/30/09 15:32:05 >> ALL IN FAVOUR SIGNIFICANT
7/30/09 15:32:08 ANY FIE SAYING AYE.
7/30/09 15:32:09 >> JUST WITH REGARD TO THE
7/30/09 15:32:10 WORKSHOP REGARDING LOCAL
7/30/09 15:32:12 PREFERENCE, THAT MOTION
7/30/09 15:32:14 INCLUDED THE CANCELLATION OF
7/30/09 15:32:16 THE EVENING SESSION OF AUGUST
7/30/09 15:32:16 6th.
7/30/09 15:32:16 >> YES.
7/30/09 15:32:18 >> THANK YOU.
7/30/09 15:32:21 >> WILL YOU CONTACT THEM
7/30/09 15:32:23 MISS
7/30/09 15:32:23 MULHERN.
7/30/09 15:32:25 >> YES.
7/30/09 15:32:25 >> YES.
7/30/09 15:32:28 WE ARE MOVING IT OUT FROM NEXT
7/30/09 15:32:28 WEEK.
7/30/09 15:32:29 YEAH.
7/30/09 15:32:31 >> FROM THE SIXTH TO NOVEMBER.
7/30/09 15:32:32 >> NOVEMBER 10th?
7/30/09 15:32:34 >> 12th IN THE MORNING.
7/30/09 15:32:37 >> 10:30
7/30/09 15:32:37 A.M.
7/30/09 15:32:38 >> OKAY.
7/30/09 15:32:39 >> OKAY NOTHING ELSE?
7/30/09 15:32:41 THEN WE STAND ADJOURNED.
7/30/09 15:32:41 OKAY.
7/30/09 15:32:44 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC
7/30/09 15:32:45 WISH TO
7/30/09 15:32:46 ADDRESS COUNCIL?
7/30/09 15:32:46 [ LAUGHTER ]
7/30/09 15:32:48 >> ALL RIGHT WE ADJOURNMENT
7/30/09 15:32:54 --
7/30/09 15:32:57 WE ADJOURNMENT




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