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Tampa City Council
Thursday, August 20, 2009
9:00 a.m.

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8/20/09 09:03:53 .
8/20/09 09:03:56 >> TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW
8/20/09 09:03:57 COME TO ORDER.
8/20/09 09:04:00 AT THIS TIME THE CHAIR WILL
8/20/09 09:04:03 YIELD TO THE HONORABLE GWEN
8/20/09 09:04:04 MILLER.
8/20/09 09:04:05 >> GOOD MORNING.
8/20/09 09:04:08 TAMPA IT'S BEEN SAID LAST NIGHT
8/20/09 09:04:09 ABOUT THE HARDEST THING THAT
8/20/09 09:04:12 HAPPENED TO A POLICE
8/20/09 09:04:12 OFFICER.
8/20/09 09:04:15 HE WAS A 30 YEARS OLD COP NAMED
8/20/09 09:04:15 MICHAEL ROBINS.
8/20/09 09:04:18 HE'LL BE REMEMBERED AS AN
8/20/09 09:04:19 OUTSTANDING HUSBAND, FATHER,
8/20/09 09:04:19 OFFICER.
8/20/09 09:04:22 HE BEGAN HIS CAREER WITH THE
8/20/09 09:04:23 TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT IN
8/20/09 09:04:23 1998.
8/20/09 09:04:26 HE SERVED IN PATROL UNTIL 2005
8/20/09 09:04:29 WHEN HE BECAME A
8/20/09 09:04:30 K-9 OFFICER.
8/20/09 09:04:31 HE SERVED ONE YIELD AS A FIELD
8/20/09 09:04:32 TRAINING OFFICER THEN WAS
8/20/09 09:04:35 PROMOTED TO THE RANGE OF
8/20/09 09:04:36 CORPORAL JULY 12, 2009.
8/20/09 09:04:38 HE WAS HONORED FOR A
8/20/09 09:04:40 LIFE SAVING AWARD IN 2005.
8/20/09 09:04:42 DURING HIS 11-YEAR CAREER
8/20/09 09:04:45 SERVICE HE WAS AWARDED DOZENS
8/20/09 09:04:47 OF LETTERS OF APPRECIATION FROM
8/20/09 09:04:47 CITIZENS, POLICE OFFICERS AND
8/20/09 09:04:48 OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES
8/20/09 09:04:50 AND HE'LL BE REALLY MISSED TO
8/20/09 09:04:51 THIS CITY AND THE POLICE
8/20/09 09:04:53 DEPARTMENT AND EVERYBODY IN THE
8/20/09 09:04:53 COMMUNITY.
8/20/09 09:04:56 LET'S BOW OUR HEADS FOR
8/20/09 09:04:56 A
8/20/09 09:04:59 MOMENT OF SILENCE PLEASE.
8/20/09 09:05:07 AMEN.
8/20/09 09:05:07 >> AMEN.
8/20/09 09:05:08 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:05:09 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:05:10 >> AGAIN OUR PRAYERS AND
8/20/09 09:05:12 CONDOLENCES GO OUT TO THE
8/20/09 09:05:15 FAMILY AND ALSO TO ALL OF
8/20/09 09:05:16 THOSE
8/20/09 09:05:19 COLLEAGUES WHO WORK WITH HIM
8/20/09 09:05:21 PGH
8/20/09 09:05:24 >>> LET ME JUST IT'S DUES MR.
8/20/09 09:05:27 BOB HUNTER BEFORE WE HAVE THE
8/20/09 09:05:27 AGENDA REVIEW.
8/20/09 09:05:29 WELCOME BACK MR. HUNTER PGH
8/20/09 09:05:32 >> MR. CHAIRMAN,
8/20/09 09:05:34 CITY
8/20/09 09:05:34 COUNCILMEN.
8/20/09 09:05:36 I WANT TO SAY HOPEFULLY WE'LL
8/20/09 09:05:37 AGREE ON EVERYTHING BUT I KNOW
8/20/09 09:05:38 WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE ON
8/20/09 09:05:40 EVERYTHING BUT IT'S A PLEASURE
8/20/09 09:05:41 TO COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
8/20/09 09:05:44 SOMETIMES WHEN THE STAFF OF THE
8/20/09 09:05:47 PLANNING COMMISSION COMES
8/20/09 09:05:50 BEFORE OTHER BODIES IT'S
8/20/09 09:05:51 SOMETIMES CONTENTIOUS AND I
8/20/09 09:05:52 APPRECIATE THE POSITIVE WORKING
8/20/09 09:05:54 RELATIONSHIP OUR STAFF AND THE
8/20/09 09:05:56 PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE HAD
8/20/09 09:05:56 WITH YOU.
8/20/09 09:05:58 MR. CHAIRMAN I AGAIN APPRECIATE
8/20/09 09:06:00 THE COUPLE OF MOMENTS I ASKED
8/20/09 09:06:00 FOR.
8/20/09 09:06:02 JUST BACKGROUND, THIS DEALS
8/20/09 09:06:04 WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION
8/20/09 09:06:05 AND OUR BUDGET AND THAT FOR THE
8/20/09 09:06:08 PAST TWO YEARS OUR
8/20/09 09:06:09 BUDGET WAS
8/20/09 09:06:12 CUT 15 PERCENT AND WE
8/20/09 09:06:13 LOST
8/20/09 09:06:13 SEVEN POSITIONS.
8/20/09 09:06:15 NEXT YEAR IT'S CUT 20 PERCENT
8/20/09 09:06:18 STARTING OCTOBER 1st AND WE'RE
8/20/09 09:06:19 LOSING EIGHT ADDITIONAL
8/20/09 09:06:20 POSITIONS AND THE FOLLOWING
8/20/09 09:06:22 YEAR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR
8/20/09 09:06:23 RECOMMENDED THE PLANNING
8/20/09 09:06:26 COMMISSION'S BUDGET BE REDUCED
8/20/09 09:06:29 AN ADDITIONAL 15 PERCENT WHICH
8/20/09 09:06:31 WILL PROBABLY INCLUDE SEVEN
8/20/09 09:06:33 MORE POSITIONS, THAT'S AN
8/20/09 09:06:34 ESSENTIAL REDUCTION.
8/20/09 09:06:35 WE'RE NOT AGREEING TO IT BUT I
8/20/09 09:06:37 WANT TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT IT.
8/20/09 09:06:38 THAT'S CAUSED REORGANIZE SAYING
8/20/09 09:06:38 WITHIN THE PLANNING COMMISSION
8/20/09 09:06:41 AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
8/20/09 09:06:42 I WANT TO INTRODUCE STEVE
8/20/09 09:06:43 GRIFFIN WHO WILL BE IN CHARGE
8/20/09 09:06:46 OF THE TAMPA TEAM THAT WILL BE
8/20/09 09:06:49 PROVIDING THE SUPPORT TO
8/20/09 09:06:50 YOU.
8/20/09 09:06:50 AS SOME BACKGROUND STEVE HAS
8/20/09 09:06:52 BEEN WITH THE PLANNING
8/20/09 09:06:53 COMMISSION AND FUNCTION WELL
8/20/09 09:06:53 OVER 19 YEARS.
8/20/09 09:06:56 HE HAS A BACKGROUND, A BACHELOR
8/20/09 09:06:58 OF ARCHITECTURE, A DESIGN
8/20/09 09:07:00 BACKGROUND AND I'M PLEASED TO
8/20/09 09:07:01 INTRODUCE STEVE TO SAY A FEW
8/20/09 09:07:02 WORDS TO YOU AND LET YOU KNOW
8/20/09 09:07:04 HE'S HERE AND WE'RE HERE TO
8/20/09 09:07:06 HELP YOU ON EVERY ONE OF THE
8/20/09 09:07:08 ISSUES AS IT RELATES TO THE
8/20/09 09:07:11 PLAN AND THE CONDUCT OF THE
8/20/09 09:07:12 PLANNING PROGRAM.
8/20/09 09:07:12 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:07:15 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL
8/20/09 09:07:15 MEMBERS.
8/20/09 09:07:16 STEVE GRIFFIN, PLANNING
8/20/09 09:07:16 COMMISSION.
8/20/09 09:07:17 IT'S GOING TO BE A PLEASURE
8/20/09 09:07:20 WORKING WITH THE CITY AND CITY
8/20/09 09:07:20 COUNCIL.
8/20/09 09:07:23 I HAVE WORKED WITH A COUPLE OF
8/20/09 09:07:25 COUNCIL MEMBERS IN MY PAST
8/20/09 09:07:27 DUTIES WITH HILLSBORO COUNTY.
8/20/09 09:07:29 I HOPE TO BRING THAT SPIRIT OF
8/20/09 09:07:30 COOPERATION BETWEEN THE
8/20/09 09:07:33 PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE
8/20/09 09:07:35 CITY OF TAMPA IN FULFILLING
8/20/09 09:07:36 YOUR LONG TERM VISION AND GOALS
8/20/09 09:07:37 FOR THE PLANNING OF THE CITY AS
8/20/09 09:07:40 YOU GO FORWARD IN THE 21st
8/20/09 09:07:42 CENTURY SO I'M HERE TO WORK IN
8/20/09 09:07:43 A SPIRIT OF COOPERATION WITH
8/20/09 09:07:46 THE CITY STAFF TO MAKE SURE
8/20/09 09:07:48 YOUR VISION AND GOALS ARE
8/20/09 09:07:50 IMPROVED AND THE CITY OF TAMPA
8/20/09 09:07:53 MOVES FORWARD IN THE
8/20/09 09:07:55 FUTURE AND
8/20/09 09:07:56 I'M WILLING TO SACRIFICE AND
8/20/09 09:07:58 BRING TO YOU ALL OF MY
8/20/09 09:08:00 EXPERIENCE WITH THE COUNTY TO
8/20/09 09:08:01 MAKE SURE YOUR VISION AND
8/20/09 09:08:02 PRIORITIES ARE PUT IN PLACE FOR
8/20/09 09:08:03 THE CITY OF TAMPA.
8/20/09 09:08:06 THANK YOU FOR THIS HONOR.
8/20/09 09:08:08 >> YES?
8/20/09 09:08:11 >> WE WANT TO WELCOME YOU
8/20/09 09:08:11 AND
8/20/09 09:08:13 WE ARE VERY PLEASED THAT WE
8/20/09 09:08:15 HAVE I THINK THE BEST
8/20/09 09:08:17 CONFERENCE PLAN THE CITY HAS
8/20/09 09:08:17 ADOPTED.
8/20/09 09:08:18 WE'LL BE WORKING VERY CLOSELY
8/20/09 09:08:21 WITH OUR STAFF TO MAKE SURE IT
8/20/09 09:08:21 GETS IMPLEMENTED AND THE FACT
8/20/09 09:08:24 YOU HAVE A DESIGN BACKGROUND IS
8/20/09 09:08:27 PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT TO US IN
8/20/09 09:08:29 THE CITY BECAUSE WE HAVE GOALS
8/20/09 09:08:32 FOR MAKING OUR CITY AN EVEN
8/20/09 09:08:33 MORE ATTRACTIVE AND LIVABLE
8/20/09 09:08:34 PLACE SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO
8/20/09 09:08:37 WORKING WITH YOU.
8/20/09 09:08:39 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:08:39 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:08:41 >> STEVE, WELCOME ABOARD AND
8/20/09 09:08:43 WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU AND THE
8/20/09 09:08:45 PROFESSIONALISM THAT YOU BRING.
8/20/09 09:08:48 I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A
8/20/09 09:08:49 SHOUT
8/20/09 09:08:52 OUT AND, IN THANKS TO
8/20/09 09:08:52 TERRY AND
8/20/09 09:08:54 MICHELLE WOULD HAVE DONE A YEO-
8/20/09 09:08:56 MAN'S JOB THE LAST SEVERAL
8/20/09 09:08:57 YEARS IN HELPING US GET THROUGH
8/20/09 09:08:59 THE UPDATE AS WELL AS MANY
8/20/09 09:09:00 OTHER CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE
8/20/09 09:09:02 HAD AND YOU DID A GREAT JOB AND
8/20/09 09:09:04 WE'LL MISS THEM AND WE WELCOME
8/20/09 09:09:07 YOU PGH
8/20/09 09:09:08 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:09:11 >> THANK YOU
8/20/09 09:09:11 VERY MUCH.
8/20/09 09:09:14 THANK YOU, STEVE.
8/20/09 09:09:15 THE AGENDA REVIEW.
8/20/09 09:09:16 >> GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIRMAN
8/20/09 09:09:18 AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY
8/20/09 09:09:18 COUNCIL.
8/20/09 09:09:20 BEFORE YOU WE HAVE THIS MORNING
8/20/09 09:09:23 THE ADDENDUM TO
8/20/09 09:09:23 THE AGENDA.
8/20/09 09:09:25 THE FIRST ITEM TO DISCUSS IS
8/20/09 09:09:28 ITEM 85, YOU RECEIVED A
8/20/09 09:09:31 MEMORANDUM FROM ASSIST ANT CITY
8/20/09 09:09:33 ATTORNEY BASKEY REQUESTING THAT
8/20/09 09:09:33 ORDINANCE BE SUBSTITUTED SO THE
8/20/09 09:09:36 REQUEST WOULD BE
8/20/09 09:09:37 TO SUBSTITUTE
8/20/09 09:09:38 ORDINANCE 85.
8/20/09 09:09:41 ITEM 94 ON
8/20/09 09:09:44 THE AGENDA, IS THE
8/20/09 09:09:47 REQUEST BY ASSIST
8/20/09 09:09:48 ANT ATTORNEY
8/20/09 09:09:49 CALAVARAS BUT THAT CAN'T BE
8/20/09 09:09:51 TAKEN UP UNTIL AFTER 9:30
8/20/09 09:09:53 BECAUSE THAT'S SET FOR A PUBLIC
8/20/09 09:09:54 HEARING AT THAT TIME.
8/20/09 09:09:55 LIKEWISE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL
8/20/09 09:09:56 THERE'S A QUESTION AS TO
8/20/09 09:09:57 WHETHER 93 CAN GO FORWARD.
8/20/09 09:09:59 IT CAN GO FORWARD?
8/20/09 09:09:59 OKAY.
8/20/09 09:10:01 THERE WAS AN ISSUE AS TO
8/20/09 09:10:01 WHETHER THE PAYMENT FOR THE
8/20/09 09:10:03 PUBLICATION HAD BEEN RECEIVED.
8/20/09 09:10:06 I HAVE BEEN INFORMED IT HAS SO
8/20/09 09:10:07 93 CAN GO FORWARD.
8/20/09 09:10:10 GOING TO THE STAFF REPORT,
8/20/09 09:10:11 ITEM
8/20/09 09:10:14 104 WAS AN ITEM THAT IS
8/20/09 09:10:16 COUNSEL
8/20/09 09:10:17 MEMBER MUL-HERN'S REQUEST AND I
8/20/09 09:10:18 BELIEVE SHE HAD A MEETING WITH
8/20/09 09:10:21 THE CHIEF
8/20/09 09:10:24 OF STAFF
8/20/09 09:10:25 AND MR.
8/20/09 09:10:26 STEEL YESTERDAY.
8/20/09 09:10:28 THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THE
8/20/09 09:10:30 COUNCIL WANTS TO HEAR THAT
8/20/09 09:10:30 TODAY.
8/20/09 09:10:33 >> IT'S ITEM 104.
8/20/09 09:10:34 I HAD ASKED FOR A REPORT, WE
8/20/09 09:10:37 HAD ASKED FOR A REPORT I'M
8/20/09 09:10:40 SORRY, FROM
8/20/09 09:10:43 THE
8/20/09 09:10:46 ADMINISTRATION
8/20/09 09:10:49 ON EMPLOYMENT CONTRACTING AND
8/20/09 09:10:49 LAYOFFS.
8/20/09 09:10:51 I MET WITH DARRYL SMIT AND
8/20/09 09:10:53 GREGORY SPILL MAN AND THEY GAVE
8/20/09 09:10:56 ME A REPORT WHICH I JUST WANTED
8/20/09 09:10:58 TO HEAR FROM COUNCIL MOSTLY
8/20/09 09:11:00 BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH OF OUR
8/20/09 09:11:03 AGENDA TODAY, WHETHER WE WANT
8/20/09 09:11:06 TO ALSO HAVE THE
8/20/09 09:11:06 ORAL REPORT
8/20/09 09:11:09 FROM DARRYL SMIT TODAY OR IF
8/20/09 09:11:12 COUNCIL WOULD
8/20/09 09:11:13 BE SATISFIED WITH
8/20/09 09:11:14 RECEIVING AND FILING AND THEN
8/20/09 09:11:16 AT A LATER MEETING WE COULD
8/20/09 09:11:19 FOLLOW UP IF WE WANT TO
8/20/09 09:11:19 HAVE
8/20/09 09:11:20 FURTHER DISCUSSION OR
8/20/09 09:11:23 PRESENTATION FROM THEM ON THIS.
8/20/09 09:11:26 AND I'M NOT SURE
8/20/09 09:11:27 IF ANYONE ELSE
8/20/09 09:11:27 --SCOTT I THOUGHT MAYBE HE'D
8/20/09 09:11:30 TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT
8/20/09 09:11:31 AND --
8/20/09 09:11:32 >> YES, MR. SMIT DID.
8/20/09 09:11:34 HE AND I HAD A DISCUSSION AND I
8/20/09 09:11:36 TOLD HIM SINCE IT WAS YOUR ITEM
8/20/09 09:11:37 HE SHOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION
8/20/09 09:11:40 WITH YOU AND HOWEVER YOU WAN TO
8/20/09 09:11:41 PROCEED I'M COMFORT ABLE WITH
8/20/09 09:11:41 THAT.
8/20/09 09:11:43 >> I'D LIKE TO ASK WE JUST
8/20/09 09:11:44 RECEIVE THE WRITTEN REPORT
8/20/09 09:11:46 TODAY IF THAT'S OKAY.
8/20/09 09:11:48 >> AND WAIVE THE APPEARANCE --
8/20/09 09:11:49 >> YES.
8/20/09 09:11:49 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:11:52 WE CAN TAKE THE OTHER PART
8/20/09 09:11:55 OF
8/20/09 09:11:57 THE MOTION.
8/20/09 09:11:58 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:12:00 ITEM 106 IS A MEMORANDUM
8/20/09 09:12:01 REQUESTING A SUBS TUITION OF
8/20/09 09:12:03 THE RESOLUTION, AN AGREEMENT TO
8/20/09 09:12:06 CHANGE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF
8/20/09 09:12:07 THE AGREEMENT.
8/20/09 09:12:08 A REMINDER, COUNSEL, THAT IS
8/20/09 09:12:10 SOMETHING THAT JUST NEEDS TO BE
8/20/09 09:12:11 MOVED BY COUNCIL.
8/20/09 09:12:12 NO STAFF WILL BE PRESENT FOR
8/20/09 09:12:13 THAT UNLESS YOU REQUEST IT BUT
8/20/09 09:12:16 AS OF NOW NO
8/20/09 09:12:19 STAFF
8/20/09 09:12:21 IS PRESENT
8/20/09 09:12:24 IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING NO STAFF
8/20/09 09:12:27 NEED BE PRESENT.
8/20/09 09:12:30 ITEM 107
8/20/09 09:12:31 IS A IS THE ITEM
8/20/09 09:12:32 REGARDING THE CLOSED CAPTIONING
8/20/09 09:12:35 OF THE COUNCIL
8/20/09 09:12:35 MEETING.
8/20/09 09:12:37 YOU HAVE RECEIVED A MEMORANDUM
8/20/09 09:12:38 FROM MISS SCHNEIDER SAYING
8/20/09 09:12:40 SHE'S WORKING ON IT AND WILL BE
8/20/09 09:12:42 FOLLOWING IT UP IN ABOUT AN
8/20/09 09:12:42 MONTH'S TIME.
8/20/09 09:12:44 THE QUESTION COUNCIL IS, WOULD
8/20/09 09:12:46 YOU, BECAUSE OF THE AGENDA,
8/20/09 09:12:47 JUST WISH TO RECEIVE AND FILE
8/20/09 09:12:50 THAT AND REQUEST A FOLLOW UP
8/20/09 09:12:50 LATER ON OR ELSE SHE'LL GIVE
8/20/09 09:12:52 YOU A FOLLOW UP OR DO YOU WANT
8/20/09 09:12:55 TO HAVE THE APPEARANCE?
8/20/09 09:12:57 PRESENTLY ITS THEIR, IT'S THEIR
8/20/09 09:12:59 INTENTION UNLESS YOU WANT TO
8/20/09 09:13:00 JUST RECEIVE AND FILE IT.
8/20/09 09:13:02 >> JUST RECEIVE AND FILE IT AND
8/20/09 09:13:02 I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE
8/20/09 09:13:03 AND FILE IT.
8/20/09 09:13:06 >> I WOULD LIKE TO
8/20/09 09:13:08 HAVE HER
8/20/09 09:13:09 APPEAR AT OUR, UNDERSTAFF
8/20/09 09:13:12 REPORTS IN A
8/20/09 09:13:13 MONTH AND TELL US HOW THINGS
8/20/09 09:13:15 ARE GOING TO IMPROVE.
8/20/09 09:13:17 I'D SAY SEPTEMBER 20 --
8/20/09 09:13:19 >> YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO,
8/20/09 09:13:21 UNTIL SEPTEMBER BECAUSE IT'S ON
8/20/09 09:13:21 THE AGENDA TODAY.
8/20/09 09:13:24 >> SO CONTINUE IT TO
8/20/09 09:13:25 SEPTEMBER
8/20/09 09:13:26 17th, UNDERSTAFF REPORT, TO
8/20/09 09:13:28 APPEAR AND TELL US HOW WE'RE
8/20/09 09:13:29 GOING TO IMPROVE THE
8/20/09 09:13:29 CAPTIONING.
8/20/09 09:13:29 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 09:13:30 >> THAT WILL BE PARTS OF THAT
8/20/09 09:13:33 MOTION THEN
8/20/09 09:13:34 AS WELL.
8/20/09 09:13:34 SO WHEN THAT ITEM COMES UP --
8/20/09 09:13:37 COMES UP IT WILL BE MOVED AS
8/20/09 09:13:37 CONTINUED.
8/20/09 09:13:39 I BELIEVE AND LET ME JUST
8/20/09 09:13:41 SPEAK, I KNOW IN A MEETING WE
8/20/09 09:13:44 HAD AN AGENDA REVIEW,
8/20/09 09:13:46 MY
8/20/09 09:13:47 UNDERSTANDING THAT PRETTY MUCH
8/20/09 09:13:50 THAT IT'S A LEARNING CURVE
8/20/09 09:13:52 AND
8/20/09 09:13:52 THE SAME THING HAPPENED BEFORE
8/20/09 09:13:54 WITH THE PERSON WE HAD BEFORE
8/20/09 09:13:56 THIS PERSON, THAT THERE IS A
8/20/09 09:13:59 LEARNING CURVE, THEY HAVE TO GO
8/20/09 09:13:59 THROUGH, UNTIL IT'S CORRECTED
8/20/09 09:14:01 SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON
8/20/09 09:14:03 THE RECORD AS WELL SO YOU'RE
8/20/09 09:14:05 AWARE OF THAT.
8/20/09 09:14:08 >> I ALSO POINT
8/20/09 09:14:08 OUT IT'S
8/20/09 09:14:10 CAPTION COLORADO AND I'M SURE
8/20/09 09:14:13 WE MUST HAVE A GROUP IN FLORIDA
8/20/09 09:14:15 MUCH CLOSER TO HOME WHERE
8/20/09 09:14:17 THEY'D BE MORE FAMILIAR WITH
8/20/09 09:14:19 STREETS AND PRONUNCIATIONS THAT
8/20/09 09:14:19 ARE HERE.
8/20/09 09:14:21 THIS IS LIKE WHEN THE VISIT
8/20/09 09:14:22 FLORIDA PEOPLE HAD THEIR CALLS
8/20/09 09:14:25 ANSWERED IN THE MIDDLE MID-
8/20/09 09:14:25 WEST.
8/20/09 09:14:26 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 09:14:27 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 09:14:28 >> COUNCIL, CONTINUING JUST AS
8/20/09 09:14:30 A POINT OF INFORMATION, IT
8/20/09 09:14:33 CANNOT BE TAKEN UP UNTIL THIS
8/20/09 09:14:36 AFTERNOON, BUT ITEM
8/20/09 09:14:37 109,
8/20/09 09:14:38 REGARDING A PUBLIC HEARING ON
8/20/09 09:14:41 THE PETITION FOR TAMPA THEY'LL
8/20/09 09:14:43 BE REQUESTING A CONTINUE WANES
8/20/09 09:14:43 FOR THAT ITEM AND THEY'RE
8/20/09 09:14:45 REQUESTING SEPTEMBER 17th AT
8/20/09 09:14:45 1:30.
8/20/09 09:14:48 THAT WILL HAVE TO BE TAKEN UP
8/20/09 09:14:51 THEN AND FOR
8/20/09 09:14:51 INFORMATIONAL
8/20/09 09:14:54 PURPOSES WITH REGARD TO V09338
8/20/09 09:14:57 ITEM
8/20/09 09:15:00 113 YOU RECEIVED A REQUEST
8/20/09 09:15:01 FROM JEAN GRIMES AND YOU HAVE
8/20/09 09:15:03 ALSO RECEIVED THIS MORNING A
8/20/09 09:15:05 MEMORANDUM FROM YOUR CITY
8/20/09 09:15:07 ATTORNEY CHIP FLETCHER,
8/20/09 09:15:09 RECOMMENDING A 2-WEEK CONTINUE
8/20/09 09:15:10 WANES SO MY SUGGESTION IS
8/20/09 09:15:11 OBVIOUSLY BOTH CAN'T BE TAKEN
8/20/09 09:15:14 UP AT THAT TIME BUT THAT'S JUST
8/20/09 09:15:15 FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.
8/20/09 09:15:16 OTHER THAN THAT MR. CHAIRMAN OR
8/20/09 09:15:17 MEMBERS OF COUNCIL I'M NOT
8/20/09 09:15:19 AWARE OF ANY OTHER ADDITIONS OR
8/20/09 09:15:22 CHANGES TO
8/20/09 09:15:25 THE AGENDA.
8/20/09 09:15:28 >>
8/20/09 09:15:31 ITEM
8/20/09 09:15:33 33, MR --
8/20/09 09:15:35 >> ITEM 33?
8/20/09 09:15:36 >> YES, ITEM 33.
8/20/09 09:15:39 >> ALL RIGHT PGH
8/20/09 09:15:42 >> A
8/20/09 09:15:45 SALES
8/20/09 09:15:48 TAX QUESTION.
8/20/09 09:15:50 QUESTION THEY, REQUEST THEY BE
8/20/09 09:15:52 LUMPED INTO THE DEFERRED ITEMS
8/20/09 09:15:55 FOR NOW.
8/20/09 09:15:57 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 09:16:00 >>
8/20/09 09:16:01 YES.
8/20/09 09:16:03 >> ITEM 20, EVIDENTLY THIS WENT
8/20/09 09:16:06 OUT IN 07, AND WE'RE IN 09 AND
8/20/09 09:16:09 I GUESS THIS IS AN
8/20/09 09:16:12 AUTOMATIC
8/20/09 09:16:14 RENEWAL FOR 227,000, $227,000 I
8/20/09 09:16:16 BELIEVE TO CUT GRASS AND I WAN
8/20/09 09:16:16 MORE INFORMATION.
8/20/09 09:16:17 I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE
8/20/09 09:16:20 RENEWING A CONTRACT THAT WENT
8/20/09 09:16:20 OUT IN '07.
8/20/09 09:16:23 THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOKING
8/20/09 09:16:24 FOR WORK OUT THERE AND WE
8/20/09 09:16:27 PROBABLY CAN
8/20/09 09:16:28 GET A BETTER BID.
8/20/09 09:16:29 WE SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THAT,
8/20/09 09:16:32 I KNOW THIS IS UP IN OCTOBER
8/20/09 09:16:33 AND THERE'S PROBABLY NOT ENOUGH
8/20/09 09:16:36 TIME AND WE MAY HAVE TO,
8/20/09 09:16:36 IT
8/20/09 09:16:39 PROBABLY COULD
8/20/09 09:16:41 BE EXTENDED FOR
8/20/09 09:16:42 SOMETIME UNTIL WE GET MORE BIDS
8/20/09 09:16:42 PGH
8/20/09 09:16:44 >> THE QUESTION MR. CHAIRMAN IS
8/20/09 09:16:47 DO YOU WANT TO HOLD THAT
8/20/09 09:16:47 FOR
8/20/09 09:16:48 STAFF REPORTS AND MAYBE THE
8/20/09 09:16:49 QUESTIONS CAN BE ANSWERED
8/20/09 09:16:52 BETWEEN NOW AND THEN OR YOU CAN
8/20/09 09:16:55 HAVE STAFF APPEAR OR ASK THEM
8/20/09 09:16:55 TO BE CONTINUED.
8/20/09 09:16:57 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIME
8/20/09 09:16:59 ISSUE IS BUT IF YOU'RE --
8/20/09 09:17:01 >> I DON'T THINK I NEED ANY
8/20/09 09:17:01 ANSWERS.
8/20/09 09:17:04 THE FACT IT WENT OUT IN '07 AND
8/20/09 09:17:07 WE'RE IN '09, ALMOST THESE
8/20/09 09:17:08 YEARS LATER AND WE'RE GOING TO
8/20/09 09:17:10 HAVE THE SAME BID, THINGS
8/20/09 09:17:11 CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.
8/20/09 09:17:12 >> THERE MAYBE ISSUES AS TO
8/20/09 09:17:14 COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS IN
8/20/09 09:17:15 THE CONTRACT THAT STAFF MAY BE
8/20/09 09:17:16 ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT MAY
8/20/09 09:17:18 ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS SO IF YOU
8/20/09 09:17:19 WISH TO ASK, IT TO BE
8/20/09 09:17:21 CONTINUED, WE CAN DO THAT OR
8/20/09 09:17:22 HOLD THE ITEMS.
8/20/09 09:17:23 >> YES I'D RATHER HAVE IT
8/20/09 09:17:25 CONTINUED AND I'LL MEET WITH I
8/20/09 09:17:28 GUESS MR. SPEAR MAN, HIS OFFICE
8/20/09 09:17:28 --
8/20/09 09:17:29 >> ARE YOU REQUESTING IT UNTIL
8/20/09 09:17:31 THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING?
8/20/09 09:17:31 >> YES.
8/20/09 09:17:32 >> WHAT DATE IS THAT?
8/20/09 09:17:34 >> UNLESS WE CAN GET TO IT
8/20/09 09:17:35 TODAY PGH
8/20/09 09:17:38 >> IF YOU WANT THEM TO APPEAR
8/20/09 09:17:39 TODAY, THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE --
8/20/09 09:17:41 WE CAN PULL IT TODAY.
8/20/09 09:17:43 >> NO I DON'T WANT TO HEAR HIM
8/20/09 09:17:45 UP HERE AND SAY IT NEEDS TO BE
8/20/09 09:17:45 DONE TODAY.
8/20/09 09:17:47 THEY SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF
8/20/09 09:17:48 THAT SOMETIME AGO.
8/20/09 09:17:50 >> SEPTEMBER 3, WE HAVE IT FOR
8/20/09 09:17:51 SEPTEMBER 3rd.
8/20/09 09:17:52 DID YOU WANT IT UNDER
8/20/09 09:17:54 UNFINISHED BUSINESS THEN FOR
8/20/09 09:17:55 SEPTEMBER 3rd PGH
8/20/09 09:17:56 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8/20/09 09:17:58 >> THE MOTION IS CONTINUING
8/20/09 09:18:00 ITEM 20 TO SEPTEMBER 3rd.
8/20/09 09:18:00 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 09:18:01 >> THE OTHER ITEM I DID NOT
8/20/09 09:18:03 READ THE WHOLE AGENDA.
8/20/09 09:18:04 THERE'S A LOT IN THERE.
8/20/09 09:18:06 I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON A
8/20/09 09:18:09 LOT OF THEM ESPECIALLY THE
8/20/09 09:18:09 AFFORDABLE HOME.
8/20/09 09:18:11 I'M NOT AGAINST AFFORDABLE
8/20/09 09:18:14 HOMES BUT THEY
8/20/09 09:18:16 DON'T ANSWER ALL
8/20/09 09:18:18 OF THE QUESTIONS ARE WE GOING
8/20/09 09:18:19 TO KNOCK DOWN WHAT'S THERE?
8/20/09 09:18:21 ARE WE GOING TO BUY THE LAND?
8/20/09 09:18:24 THERE ARE A LOT OF
8/20/09 09:18:25 QUESTIONS TO
8/20/09 09:18:25 BE ASKED.
8/20/09 09:18:28 >> ITEM 40, 41, 42, 43, 44,
8/20/09 09:18:29 45,
8/20/09 09:18:32 48, I WANT
8/20/09 09:18:36 TO HIGHLIGHT.
8/20/09 09:18:38 JUST HIGHLIGHT BECAUSE THOSE
8/20/09 09:18:39 ARE VERY IMPORTANT ITEM WHERE
8/20/09 09:18:42 WE ARE DEALING WITH
8/20/09 09:18:43 A LOT OF
8/20/09 09:18:46 THE NONPROFITS IN
8/20/09 09:18:48 TERMS OF
8/20/09 09:18:51 HOUSING THEN 67 THROUGH
8/20/09 09:18:52 70.
8/20/09 09:18:55 THOSE ARE
8/20/09 09:18:56 THE NEIGHBORHOOD
8/20/09 09:18:56 STABILIZATION PROGRAMS WHICH
8/20/09 09:18:59 ADDRESSES FOR CLOSURE, MONEY
8/20/09 09:19:00 BEING USED TO HELP
8/20/09 09:19:02 NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEN I WANT
8/20/09 09:19:04 TO SPEAK TO ITEM 72 WHICH IS
8/20/09 09:19:06 40th STREET SO THOSE I WAN TO
8/20/09 09:19:07 HIGHLIGHT WHEN WE COME TO
8/20/09 09:19:07 THOSE.
8/20/09 09:19:08 >> WHAT WERE THE NUMBERS AGAIN,
8/20/09 09:19:11 THE LAST FOUR YOU SAID?
8/20/09 09:19:14 >> 67 THROUGH
8/20/09 09:19:14 70 ARE NSP'S,
8/20/09 09:19:17 STABILIZATION PROGRAM WHERE
8/20/09 09:19:18 DEALING WITH FORECLOSE SHOWERS
8/20/09 09:19:20 AND THEN ITEM 72 IS 40th STREET
8/20/09 09:19:23 AND THE OTHER ITEMS, 40,
8/20/09 09:19:24 41,
8/20/09 09:19:26 42, 43, 44, 45, 48, ALL OF
8/20/09 09:19:28 THOSE DEALING WITH THE
8/20/09 09:19:29 NONPROFITS, DEALING WITH HOMES
8/20/09 09:19:31 AND YOU KNOW BUILDING NEW
8/20/09 09:19:34 HOUSES AND
8/20/09 09:19:36 AFFORDABLE HOUSING
8/20/09 09:19:36 ISSUES.
8/20/09 09:19:39 IN MY
8/20/09 09:19:41 OPINION (INAUDIBLE).
8/20/09 09:19:41 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 09:19:42 ANY OTHER --ANYTHING ELSE?
8/20/09 09:19:45 MOTION TO APPROVE
8/20/09 09:19:48 THE AGENDA AS
8/20/09 09:19:50 MODIFIED.
8/20/09 09:19:51 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 09:19:53 >> MOVED BY COUNCILWOMAN LINDA
8/20/09 09:19:54 SAUL-SENA.
8/20/09 09:19:57 >> ALL IN FAVOR
8/20/09 09:20:00 AYE.
8/20/09 09:20:03 >> AYE.
8/20/09 09:20:04 >> OPPOSES?
8/20/09 09:20:04 >> NO.
8/20/09 09:20:07 >> 33 WE'LL CONTINUE.
8/20/09 09:20:10 >> 20 IS CONTINUED.
8/20/09 09:20:13 >> YES PGH
8/20/09 09:20:14 >> YES.
8/20/09 09:20:15 >> THAT'S COUNCILMAN JOSEPH
8/20/09 09:20:15 CAETANO.
8/20/09 09:20:15 >> YES.
8/20/09 09:20:18 >> AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN THE
8/20/09 09:20:19 FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
8/20/09 09:20:21 WE HAVE SET ASIDE 30 MINUTES TO
8/20/09 09:20:23 HEAR FROM THOSE WHO WISH TO
8/20/09 09:20:25 ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL TODAY.
8/20/09 09:20:26 PREFERENCE IS GIVEN TO THOSE
8/20/09 09:20:29 ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FIRST SO IF
8/20/09 09:20:31 YOU'RE HERE, THE ITEMS ON THE
8/20/09 09:20:32 AGENDA YOU MAY LINE UP AT THIS
8/20/09 09:20:33 TIME AND COME FORWARD.
8/20/09 09:20:34 YOU MAY SPEAK TO COUNCIL
8/20/09 09:20:37 RELATIVE TO ITEMS ON
8/20/09 09:20:39 THE
8/20/09 09:20:39 AGENDA.
8/20/09 09:20:42 ANYONE HERE WANT TO
8/20/09 09:20:43 SPEAK TO
8/20/09 09:20:45 COUNCIL?
8/20/09 09:20:48 ANYONE ELSE, IF YOU WOULD
8/20/09 09:20:48 LINE
8/20/09 09:20:50 UP PLEASE.
8/20/09 09:20:51 OKAY.
8/20/09 09:20:53 >> GOOD MORNING.
8/20/09 09:20:54 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 09:20:56 >> MY NAME IS ALLEN COSTANTINI,
8/20/09 09:20:59 I LIVE AT 1511 NORTH 20th
8/20/09 09:20:59 AVENUE.
8/20/09 09:21:01 I'M HERE TO ADDRESS NOT AN ITEM
8/20/09 09:21:03 ON THE AGENDA BUT ONE ON THE
8/20/09 09:21:06 AGENDA FOUR WEEKS AGO AND
8/20/09 09:21:07 I
8/20/09 09:21:08 SPOKE, IT'S ABOUT THE TILLER
8/20/09 09:21:11 SYSTEM AT THE GARDEN CENTER AND
8/20/09 09:21:12 OTHER CONCERNS I HAVE.
8/20/09 09:21:13 I THOUGHT I MADE VERY GOOD
8/20/09 09:21:14 POINTS DURING THE PUBLIC
8/20/09 09:21:15 SESSION.
8/20/09 09:21:16 I WAS TOLD I MIGHT WANT TO COME
8/20/09 09:21:19 BACK BECAUSE THE CITY WAS
8/20/09 09:21:20 GIVING THEIR REPORT.
8/20/09 09:21:22 I CAME BACK AND WAITED FOR AN
8/20/09 09:21:24 HOUR AND IT'S A TIME SPECIFIC
8/20/09 09:21:26 THING WHEN IT STARTS BUT
8/20/09 09:21:28 ANYWAYS, I CAME BACK AND THEN I
8/20/09 09:21:29 GUESS THERE'S A PUBLIC COMMENT
8/20/09 09:21:32 DURING THE CITY REPORTS SO I
8/20/09 09:21:34 WASN'T ABLE TO REBUT ANYTHING
8/20/09 09:21:35 THAT DAVID VAUGHAN HAD SAID BUT
8/20/09 09:21:38 I'M HERE TO DO THAT NOW SO
8/20/09 09:21:40 HOPEFULLY MY THREE MINUTES CAN
8/20/09 09:21:41 START NOW.
8/20/09 09:21:42 THE FIRST THING IS DAVID
8/20/09 09:21:45 VAUGHAN QUESTIONED MY
8/20/09 09:21:45 QUALIFICATIONS.
8/20/09 09:21:47 I LIVED IN SUMMIT HEIGHTS SINCE
8/20/09 09:21:47 1991.
8/20/09 09:21:49 I HAVE TWO DEGREES IN
8/20/09 09:21:50 ARCHITECTURE, I HAVE A
8/20/09 09:21:51 BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM THE
8/20/09 09:21:52 UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA AND
8/20/09 09:21:53 MASTERS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF
8/20/09 09:21:53 SOUTH FLORIDA.
8/20/09 09:21:56 I HAVE BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN THE
8/20/09 09:21:57 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, I
8/20/09 09:21:59 ACTUALLY WAS PART OF THE
8/20/09 09:22:00 ORIGINAL GROUP THAT INSERTED
8/20/09 09:22:03 ALL OF THE HOUSE IN
8/20/09 09:22:04 THE
8/20/09 09:22:05 NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALSO I HAVE
8/20/09 09:22:06 ALWAYS BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN
8/20/09 09:22:06 PRESERVATION.
8/20/09 09:22:10 I DO A LOT OF WORK BEFORE
8/20/09 09:22:10 THE
8/20/09 09:22:12 ARC IN HYDE PARK AND OTHER
8/20/09 09:22:12 AREAS.
8/20/09 09:22:15 DAVID VAUGHAN TALKED ABOUT HIS
8/20/09 09:22:15 QUALIFICATIONS.
8/20/09 09:22:17 FIRST OF ALL I REQUEST THAT, I
8/20/09 09:22:20 QUESTION THAT BECAUSE NOBODY
8/20/09 09:22:21 EVEN KNEW WHO HE WAS AND HE WAS
8/20/09 09:22:22 NOT ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THAT
8/20/09 09:22:24 PROJECT IN ANY
8/20/09 09:22:25 WAY WHATSOEVER AND HE TALKS
8/20/09 09:22:27 ABOUT HIS QUALIFICATIONS THAT
8/20/09 09:22:28 HE TOOK THE PRESERVATION OPTION
8/20/09 09:22:30 AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
8/20/09 09:22:33 I WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY
8/20/09 09:22:33 OF
8/20/09 09:22:33 FLORIDA.
8/20/09 09:22:33 THE PRESERVATION OPTION DOES
8/20/09 09:22:35 NOT MAKE ANY A PRESERVATION
8/20/09 09:22:36 ARCHITECT AND ALSO HE DID THAT
8/20/09 09:22:39 IN LIKE PROBABLY
8/20/09 09:22:42 THE 70s.
8/20/09 09:22:44 I STRONGLY URGE THE CITY TO GET
8/20/09 09:22:47 THE SERVICES
8/20/09 09:22:47 OF A PRESERVATION
8/20/09 09:22:50 ARCHITECT SUCH AS STEPHANIE
8/20/09 09:22:54 FARRELL, MARTHA SHERMAN,
8/20/09 09:22:55 LARRY
8/20/09 09:22:55 WALKER, VIVIAN LOWAGA.
8/20/09 09:22:56 THEY'RE ALL VERY ACTIVE AND
8/20/09 09:22:58 HAVE WORKED WITH THE CITY
8/20/09 09:23:00 BEFORE BUT THE CITY REFUSED.
8/20/09 09:23:01 DAVID VAUGHAN SAID THEY HAD
8/20/09 09:23:04 BEEN VERY ABLE TO WORK WITH
8/20/09 09:23:05 THE
8/20/09 09:23:08 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND
8/20/09 09:23:08 THEY WERE.
8/20/09 09:23:09 THERE'S ANOTHER ARCHITECT ON
8/20/09 09:23:10 THE COMMITTEE THAT ENDED UP
8/20/09 09:23:12 BACKING OUT JUST LIKE I DID
8/20/09 09:23:15 BECAUSE WE SORT OF THROUGH OUR
8/20/09 09:23:15 HANDS UP.
8/20/09 09:23:16 THE CITY TOLD US FROM DAY ONE
8/20/09 09:23:18 WHAT THEY WANTED AND THEY WOULD
8/20/09 09:23:20 SORT OF LISTEN TO US AND THEY
8/20/09 09:23:21 WOULD THROW US LITTLE BONES
8/20/09 09:23:22 EVERY NOW AND THEN BUT THEY HAD
8/20/09 09:23:25 AN AGENDA AND ONE OF
8/20/09 09:23:26 THEM WAS
8/20/09 09:23:28 THIS SYSTEM WHICH TO THIS DAY
8/20/09 09:23:29 WE CANNOT UNDERSTAND.
8/20/09 09:23:30 IT'S SO MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE
8/20/09 09:23:32 THAN A CONVENTIONAL SYSTEM.
8/20/09 09:23:35 MR. VAUGHAN USED FANCY
8/20/09 09:23:37 WORDS
8/20/09 09:23:39 LIKE D-X-SYSTEMS, SENSIBLE
8/20/09 09:23:39 HEAT, ALPHA, DELTA VALUES AND
8/20/09 09:23:41 ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
8/20/09 09:23:44 THE POINT IS
8/20/09 09:23:47 THAT THE HVAC
8/20/09 09:23:48 SYSTEM CONFORMS TO THE ENERGY
8/20/09 09:23:50 CODE AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE
8/20/09 09:23:52 BASED ON ACTUAL DESIGN VALUES,
8/20/09 09:23:55 NOT ARBITRARY VALSUANI GOT
8/20/09 09:23:56 AN E-
8/20/09 09:23:56 MAIL FROM MY ENGINEER THAT I
8/20/09 09:23:59 WORK WITH A LOT AND HE DID THE
8/20/09 09:24:01 SYSTEM FOR THE CHURCH RIGHT
8/20/09 09:24:04 DOWN THE STREET, THE METHODIST
8/20/09 09:24:05 CHURCH AT CENTRAL.
8/20/09 09:24:07 IT SAYS THE HVAC SYSTEMS AND
8/20/09 09:24:10 EQUIPMENT SHALL BE DESIGNED TO
8/20/09 09:24:11 PROVIDE NOT MORE THAN THE SPACE
8/20/09 09:24:13 AND SYSTEM LOADS CALCULATEND
8/20/09 09:24:17 ACCORDANCE WITH
8/20/09 09:24:20 SECTION
8/20/09 09:24:21 13-407.
8/20/09 09:24:21 A, B .1.
8/20/09 09:24:22 IN OTHER WORDS YOU CAN'T JUST
8/20/09 09:24:24 SAY OH WE'LL DESIGN IT AND PUT
8/20/09 09:24:27 IN A 30-TON AND MAKE IT WORK
8/20/09 09:24:30 PGH
8/20/09 09:24:31 >> (BUZZER).
8/20/09 09:24:32 >> I'M OUT OF TIME
8/20/09 09:24:32 UNFORTUNATELY.
8/20/09 09:24:35 >> I'M NOT HERE TO
8/20/09 09:24:36 DISPUTE OR
8/20/09 09:24:37 REDISTRIBUTOR ANYBODY'S
8/20/09 09:24:37 QUALIFICATION.
8/20/09 09:24:40 I'M SURE YOU HAVE EVERYTHING
8/20/09 09:24:42 YOU SAID OR MR. VAUGHAN'S
8/20/09 09:24:43 QUALIFICATIONS OR WHATEVER.
8/20/09 09:24:45 THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY AND I
8/20/09 09:24:46 SAID IT THAT DAY IS THAT MY GUT
8/20/09 09:24:49 FEELING FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF
8/20/09 09:24:51 COMMON SENSE, TELLS ME THAT
8/20/09 09:24:54 THERE IS SOMEWHERE IN THAT
8/20/09 09:24:54 CONTRACT, SOMEBODY BID A
8/20/09 09:24:56 CONTRACT THAT THEY CAN'T
8/20/09 09:24:57 PERFORM ON OR SOMEBODY TOOK
8/20/09 09:25:00 MORE OF AN APPLE THAT THEY
8/20/09 09:25:03 COULD CHEW ON AND SOMEWHERE IN
8/20/09 09:25:03 BETWEEN LIES THE TRUTH.
8/20/09 09:25:05 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TRUTH IS.
8/20/09 09:25:08 I DON'T HAVE TIME TO
8/20/09 09:25:10 INVESTIGATE EACH ISSUE THAT
8/20/09 09:25:12 THIS CITY HAS ON RECORD.
8/20/09 09:25:15 I DO SAY ONE THING, I AS
8/20/09 09:25:16 A
8/20/09 09:25:19 HUMAN BEING COULD HAVE NEVER
8/20/09 09:25:20 BROUGHT AS ANOTHER HUMAN BEING
8/20/09 09:25:23 DID HERE THAT DOES NOT HAVE THE
8/20/09 09:25:26 QUALIFICATIONS THAT YOU
8/20/09 09:25:27 HAVE OR
8/20/09 09:25:29 MR. VAUGHAN HAS, A DETAILED
8/20/09 09:25:32 ITEM ON CHILLERS, ON WHAT
8/20/09 09:25:33 A
8/20/09 09:25:35 19,000 IF I REMEMBER UNIT DOES
8/20/09 09:25:36 AND WHAT THE RATIO USE OF
8/20/09 09:25:38 ELECTRICITY OR THE RATIO IS OF
8/20/09 09:25:39 COOLING AND IF THERE'S FIVE
8/20/09 09:25:41 PEOPLE IN THERE VERSUS 250
8/20/09 09:25:44 PERSONS, IF I REMEMBER WHAT
8/20/09 09:25:44 I
8/20/09 09:25:46 READ, AND SINCE I READ A LOT OF
8/20/09 09:25:47 THINGS I MAY MAKE A LITTLE
8/20/09 09:25:49 ERROR BUT I'M NOT TALKING TO
8/20/09 09:25:51 YOU SO YOU WON'T HAVE A CHANCE
8/20/09 09:25:52 TO DISPUTE ANYTHING I SAY SO
8/20/09 09:25:53 I'M TALKING TO THE GENERAL
8/20/09 09:25:54 PUBLIC SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS
8/20/09 09:25:56 WHO IS RIGHT AND WHO IS WRONG?
8/20/09 09:25:58 I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT, PUBLIC.
8/20/09 09:26:00 I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE'S A
8/20/09 09:26:01 PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH AND WE
8/20/09 09:26:03 WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS,
8/20/09 09:26:06 WHETHER IT'S THE RIGHT
8/20/09 09:26:06 PROCESS
8/20/09 09:26:07 OR NOT, LEAVES TO BE DECIDED.
8/20/09 09:26:09 WHETHER IT'S THE RIGHT
8/20/09 09:26:12 ENGINEERING OR NOT IT'S UP TO
8/20/09 09:26:12 THAT DEPARTMENT, WHETHER --WE
8/20/09 09:26:14 HAVE A LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
8/20/09 09:26:15 IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO SUE
8/20/09 09:26:18 SOMEBODY, SUE
8/20/09 09:26:19 THE CITY.
8/20/09 09:26:21 IF SOMEBODY --THEN ALL OF IT
8/20/09 09:26:22 WOULD BE BROUGHT OUT.
8/20/09 09:26:24 I CAN ONLY SAY THIS.
8/20/09 09:26:27 WHAT IS BEFORE ME IS THE ONLY
8/20/09 09:26:30 THING I CAN ACT
8/20/09 09:26:31 ON, NOT
8/20/09 09:26:32 SOMEBODY'S QUALIFICATIONS OR 10
8/20/09 09:26:33 YEARS AGO OR WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE
8/20/09 09:26:35 DID OR I WAS A VETERAN OF THE
8/20/09 09:26:36 KOREAN WAR.
8/20/09 09:26:38 I CAN'T DO NONE OF THAT STUFF.
8/20/09 09:26:39 I CAN ONLY BASE IT ON THE FACTS
8/20/09 09:26:41 THAT ARE PRESENTED TO ME ON
8/20/09 09:26:43 BOTH SIDES.
8/20/09 09:26:45 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
8/20/09 09:26:47 >> MAY I
8/20/09 09:26:48 HAVE ONE MORE MINUTE.
8/20/09 09:26:50 I KNOW THERE'S SOMEBODY --
8/20/09 09:26:52 >> NO SIR WE CAN'T ENTERTAIN A
8/20/09 09:26:53 DEBATE ON PUBLIC COMMENT.
8/20/09 09:26:56 NO WE CAN'T
8/20/09 09:26:56 SIR.
8/20/09 09:26:56 NEXT SPEAKER.
8/20/09 09:26:59 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:27:05 >> GOOD
8/20/09 09:27:05 MORNING, CITY COUNCIL
8/20/09 09:27:07 MEMBERS
8/20/09 09:27:07 AND FELLOW CITIZENS.
8/20/09 09:27:08 I HAVE A QUESTION, I DON'T HAVE
8/20/09 09:27:11 A COPY OF THE AGENDA
8/20/09 09:27:12 BUT I WAS
8/20/09 09:27:13 TOLD THAT TODAY WOULD BE THE
8/20/09 09:27:16 DAY THAT YOU WOULD HAVE
8/20/09 09:27:19 INTERVIEWS FOR THOSE INTERESTED
8/20/09 09:27:21 IN BECOMING A MEMBER OF THE
8/20/09 09:27:22 BUSINESS ADVISORY COUNCIL, SO
8/20/09 09:27:24 IF THAT IS ON THE AGENDA NOW
8/20/09 09:27:27 I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT.
8/20/09 09:27:30 >>
8/20/09 09:27:32 ARE YOU THE ONLY PERSON THAT
8/20/09 09:27:32 SUBMITTED YOUR NAME?
8/20/09 09:27:34 >> I DON'T KNOW.
8/20/09 09:27:35 I RECEIVED AN E-MAIL THAT THIS
8/20/09 09:27:38 WOULD BE THE MORNING I WOULD
8/20/09 09:27:39 GET MY THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK
8/20/09 09:27:39 --
8/20/09 09:27:42 >> WELL IT'S ON THE AGENDA,
8/20/09 09:27:44 IT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR A
8/20/09 09:27:45 CERTAIN TIME --
8/20/09 09:27:48 >> I WILL WAIT UNTIL THAT TIME.
8/20/09 09:27:48 >> YES, MA'AM.
8/20/09 09:27:48 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:27:50 >> OR CAN YOU STOP BY THE
8/20/09 09:27:51 CLERK'S OFFICE AND THEY CAN
8/20/09 09:27:53 GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION AS
8/20/09 09:27:53 WELL.
8/20/09 09:27:54 >> SHOULD BE 10:30.
8/20/09 09:27:56 >> AND IT SHOULD BE 10:30.
8/20/09 09:27:59 IT SHOULD
8/20/09 09:27:59 BE 10:30.
8/20/09 09:28:02 YES, SIR.
8/20/09 09:28:03 >> GOOD MORNING.
8/20/09 09:28:05 >> I'M PAUL MORRISON THE REAL
8/20/09 09:28:06 ESTATE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE
8/20/09 09:28:08 UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AND
8/20/09 09:28:11 DISCUSSING ITEM
8/20/09 09:28:14 90, THE
8/20/09 09:28:16 ADOPTIONIST --
8/20/09 09:28:17 >> 10:30.
8/20/09 09:28:17 >> 9:30.
8/20/09 09:28:20 THAT COMES UP AT 9:30
8/20/09 09:28:21 FOR
8/20/09 09:28:24 PUBLIC HEARING.
8/20/09 09:28:25 >> NEXT SPEAKER.
8/20/09 09:28:26 ANYONE ELSE WANT TO ADDRESS
8/20/09 09:28:28 COUNCIL FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA
8/20/09 09:28:31 EXCEPT FOR
8/20/09 09:28:32 PUBLIC HEARING
8/20/09 09:28:34 ITEMS?
8/20/09 09:28:37 >>
8/20/09 09:28:40 I'M
8/20/09 09:28:43 CHARLES
8/20/09 09:28:45 MORALSKI, 6320
8/20/09 09:28:48 (INAUDIBLE) AVENUE,
8/20/09 09:28:51 NUMBER
8/20/09 09:28:57 E2009-8. IT'S A WRITTEN REPORT
8/20/09 09:28:59 PGH
8/20/09 09:29:01 >> IT'S ITEM 105, COUNCIL.
8/20/09 09:29:02 >> HERE IT IS.
8/20/09 09:29:05 >> MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL,
8/20/09 09:29:08 IN REGARDS TO THE CODES
8/20/09 09:29:11 ENFORCEMENT SECTION
8/20/09 09:29:13 27129,
8/20/09 09:29:16 VEHICLE PARKING, I HAVE
8/20/09 09:29:16 THE
8/20/09 09:29:19 PRIVILEGE OF
8/20/09 09:29:22 RECEIVING THE
8/20/09 09:29:24 COME
8/20/09 09:29:26 BACK ON MR. LATER, AND I HAD A
8/20/09 09:29:29 FEW COMMENTS TO
8/20/09 09:29:32 MAKE ABOUT IT.
8/20/09 09:29:44 AND
8/20/09 09:29:47 ,
8/20/09 09:29:50 AND ON JUNE 9, 2008 I
8/20/09 09:29:52 CALLED CODE ENFORCEMENT AND
8/20/09 09:29:55 TALKED TO A RECORDER.
8/20/09 09:29:56 I CAME HOME AND CODE
8/20/09 09:29:59 ENFORCEMENT, CALLED AND LEFT ME
8/20/09 09:30:00 A MESSAGE ON MY RECORDER.
8/20/09 09:30:03 I ANSWERED HIS CALL AND LEFT
8/20/09 09:30:04 A
8/20/09 09:30:07 MESSAGE ON
8/20/09 09:30:08 HIS RECORDER.
8/20/09 09:30:09 IT SEEMED LIKE ALL OUR
8/20/09 09:30:10 CORRESPONDENCE IS THROUGH A
8/20/09 09:30:12 RECORDER.
8/20/09 09:30:15 THERE HAS BEEN A TIME THAT
8/20/09 09:30:16 I
8/20/09 09:30:19 HAD TALKED TO MR. LATER AND I
8/20/09 09:30:22 TOLD HIM WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS
8/20/09 09:30:25 AND I
8/20/09 09:30:26 HAVE GIVEN HIM
8/20/09 09:30:29 PHOTOGRAPHS --MR. SLATER, AND
8/20/09 09:30:32 I HAVE GIVEN HIM PHOTOGRAPHS OF
8/20/09 09:30:33 THIS VESSEL.
8/20/09 09:30:34 JULY 28, 2008 I RECEIVED A
8/20/09 09:30:37 MESSAGE FROM CODE
8/20/09 09:30:37 ENFORCEMENT
8/20/09 09:30:41 FROM MR. A-MOS, SUPERVISOR CODE
8/20/09 09:30:44 ENFORCEMENT THAT
8/20/09 09:30:45 HE, THE
8/20/09 09:30:46 NEIGHBOR, IS ALLOWED TO PARK
8/20/09 09:30:48 HIS PONTOON BOAT AT ANY TIME
8/20/09 09:30:51 FOR 24 HOURS FOR PREPARATION
8/20/09 09:30:54 AND/OR IT NEEDS TO GET
8/20/09 09:30:57 THE
8/20/09 09:30:58 BOAT
8/20/09 09:30:58 READY.
8/20/09 09:30:59 IT'S MORE THAN 24 HOURS.
8/20/09 09:31:00 THE CONVERSATION ENDED WITH A
8/20/09 09:31:02 LACK OF RECORDING TIME.
8/20/09 09:31:05 THAT PREPARATION TIME
8/20/09 09:31:06 CONSISTS
8/20/09 09:31:09 OF TWO
8/20/09 09:31:11 TO FOUR DAYS AND DURING
8/20/09 09:31:14 THE PREPARATION TIME THE BOAT
8/20/09 09:31:17 JUST SITS THERE.
8/20/09 09:31:20 ON SATURDAY, AUGUST
8/20/09 09:31:20 24th, 2008,
8/20/09 09:31:22 HURRICANE FAYE AND THAT DAY THE
8/20/09 09:31:25 PONTOON WAS IN THE DRIVEWAY
8/20/09 09:31:26 AND
8/20/09 09:31:29 IT STAYED THERE
8/20/09 09:31:31 UNTIL MONDAY.
8/20/09 09:31:34 AUGUST 21, 2008, THE INSPECTOR
8/20/09 09:31:35 MADE AN INSPECTION.
8/20/09 09:31:37 I CALLED FOR THE OUTCOME.
8/20/09 09:31:40 THE OUTCOME MET
8/20/09 09:31:43 WITH
8/20/09 09:31:44 REGULATIONS COMPLIED.
8/20/09 09:31:46 EXTENSIVE CASE HISTORY
8/20/09 09:31:49 BEGINNING IN 1990,
8/20/09 09:31:52 PROPERTY
8/20/09 09:31:53 VIOLATIONS.
8/20/09 09:31:54 FEBRUARY 20, 2008, THE FIRST
8/20/09 09:31:57 COMPLAINT PLUS TWO
8/20/09 09:32:00 MORE SIMILAR
8/20/09 09:32:02 CASES, GENERALLY FOUND IN
8/20/09 09:32:04 COMPLIANCE IN A REASONABLE
8/20/09 09:32:05 PERIOD.
8/20/09 09:32:08 AFTER BEING NOTIFIED
8/20/09 09:32:10 OF
8/20/09 09:32:11 COMPLAINTS, THE PONTOON --
8/20/09 09:32:11 >> (BUZZER).
8/20/09 09:32:14 >> YOUR TIME IS UP.
8/20/09 09:32:15 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8/20/09 09:32:17 >> THIS IS PROOF OF EVERYTHING
8/20/09 09:32:18 AND I HAVE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS FOR
8/20/09 09:32:18 THE --
8/20/09 09:32:20 >> IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE THAT
8/20/09 09:32:21 WITH US AND RECEIVE IT IN A
8/20/09 09:32:24 FILE SO WE CAN REVIEW
8/20/09 09:32:25 IT.
8/20/09 09:32:27 THAT --
8/20/09 09:32:30 >>
8/20/09 09:32:33 YES,
8/20/09 09:32:34 YES.
8/20/09 09:32:36 >> ALL RIGHT.
8/20/09 09:32:39 >> WE'LL RECEIVE THAT.
8/20/09 09:32:40 OKAY.
8/20/09 09:32:43 ANYONE ELSE WISH TO
8/20/09 09:32:46 ADDRESS
8/20/09 09:32:46 COUNCIL?
8/20/09 09:32:46 ANYONE ELSE?
8/20/09 09:32:47 IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS COUNCIL
8/20/09 09:32:50 NOW IS THE TIME TO COME
8/20/09 09:32:52 FORWARD.
8/20/09 09:32:54 ANYONE ELSE?
8/20/09 09:32:54 YES.
8/20/09 09:32:57 >> I AM INK RAM SMIT
8/20/09 09:32:58 FROM
8/20/09 09:33:01 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS IN REGARD TO
8/20/09 09:33:04 THE ISSUE OF THE CENTER, TO
8/20/09 09:33:07 REBUT REGARDING
8/20/09 09:33:09 THE CHIMNEY
8/20/09 09:33:11 CAPS, THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE OF
8/20/09 09:33:14 THE CAP THIS IS
8/20/09 09:33:16 A PHOTO USED
8/20/09 09:33:17 THROUGHOUT EVERYTHING AND IT
8/20/09 09:33:18 CLEARLY SHOWS THE CHIMNEY CAP
8/20/09 09:33:21 HERE AND THIS IS THE ONE
8/20/09 09:33:23 THEY'RE PUTTING ON AND ALSO TO
8/20/09 09:33:26 REBUT THE
8/20/09 09:33:29 STATEMENT
8/20/09 09:33:30 REGARDING
8/20/09 09:33:30 THE FLASHING.
8/20/09 09:33:33 WITH THIS FLASHING
8/20/09 09:33:36 HERE WHICH
8/20/09 09:33:37 APPARENTLY WAS TESTIFIED AS
8/20/09 09:33:40 BEING IN THE GARDEN
8/20/09 09:33:42 CENTER
8/20/09 09:33:43 IMPROVEMENT.
8/20/09 09:33:46 THE STATEMENT WAS IT WAS A
8/20/09 09:33:46 PART
8/20/09 09:33:47 OF THE SPECIFICS, IT WAS
8/20/09 09:33:49 OMITTED AND THIS IS WHAT THEY
8/20/09 09:33:51 ARE ACTUALLY DOING WHICH WILL
8/20/09 09:33:51 ALLOW WATER --
8/20/09 09:33:53 >> MA'AM, SO YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH
8/20/09 09:33:55 REBUTTING WHAT WAS STATED
8/20/09 09:33:56 EARLIER ABOUT THE CHILLER
8/20/09 09:33:57 PLANT, DO I UNDERSTAND?
8/20/09 09:33:59 >> I'M NOT ADDRESSING THE
8/20/09 09:34:00 CHILLER AT ALL BUT SOME
8/20/09 09:34:00 STATEMENTS MADE BY THE
8/20/09 09:34:03 GENTLEMAN TWO WEEKS AGO
8/20/09 09:34:06 REGARDING THINGS THAT WERE,
8/20/09 09:34:09 THAT THERE WAS EVIDENCE OF,
8/20/09 09:34:11 SAID THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE OF
8/20/09 09:34:11 THE CHIMNEY CAP.
8/20/09 09:34:12 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:34:13 GO AHEAD, I'M SORRY.
8/20/09 09:34:16 >> AND THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR
8/20/09 09:34:16 THE FLASHING.
8/20/09 09:34:18 >> DID YOU FINISH?
8/20/09 09:34:18 >> YES.
8/20/09 09:34:21 >> OKAY PGH
8/20/09 09:34:24 >> THANK YOU
8/20/09 09:34:29 MR. CHAIRMAN.
8/20/09 09:34:32 THERE OBVIOUSLY,
8/20/09 09:34:33 THERE'S STILL
8/20/09 09:34:35 SOME --SOME LACK OF COMFORT BY
8/20/09 09:34:37 THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE
8/20/09 09:34:38 IMPROVEMENTS AND CHANGES BEING
8/20/09 09:34:40 MADE TO THE GARDEN CENTER AND I
8/20/09 09:34:42 ASKED MARTY SHELBY WHAT THE
8/20/09 09:34:43 OPTIONS ARE AS COUNCIL BECAUSE
8/20/09 09:34:45 IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE THING.
8/20/09 09:34:47 HE SAID WE COULD DO ONE OF TWO
8/20/09 09:34:47 THINGS.
8/20/09 09:34:48 A COUNCIL MEMBER COULD OFFER TO
8/20/09 09:34:50 BE, TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE
8/20/09 09:34:53 NEIGHBORS AND THE STAFF AND TO
8/20/09 09:34:54 TRY TO FACILITATE COMMUNICATION
8/20/09 09:34:56 AND GET THE STAFF TO COMMIT TO
8/20/09 09:34:59 WHAT THE NEIGHBORS WANT OR WE
8/20/09 09:35:01 COULD ASK MR. VAUGHAN TO COME
8/20/09 09:35:04 BACK AND AGAIN TO COUNCIL.
8/20/09 09:35:06 I WOULD BE WILLING TO HELP
8/20/09 09:35:09 FACILITATE A MEETING
8/20/09 09:35:10 AND THEN
8/20/09 09:35:12 IF THAT ISN'T SATISFYING TO ASK
8/20/09 09:35:15 MR. VAUGHAN TO COME BACK AND
8/20/09 09:35:15 ADDRESS THE DISCREPANCIES
8/20/09 09:35:16 BETWEEN THE STATEMENTS HE MADE
8/20/09 09:35:19 TO US AS COUNCIL
8/20/09 09:35:22 AND WHAT THE
8/20/09 09:35:22 NEIGHBORS PERCEIVE THIS --WHAT
8/20/09 09:35:25 THE NEEDS ARE SO I WOULD
8/20/09 09:35:27 VOLUNTEER TO DO THAT IF THAT IS
8/20/09 09:35:28 COUNSEL --
8/20/09 09:35:30 >> WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE?
8/20/09 09:35:33 >> THAT'S FINE
8/20/09 09:35:34 WITH ME.
8/20/09 09:35:34 >> MOTION?
8/20/09 09:35:35 >> WE DON'T NEED A MOTION
8/20/09 09:35:35 ACTUALLY.
8/20/09 09:35:38 IT COULD BE JUST A CONSENSUS IF
8/20/09 09:35:38 THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
8/20/09 09:35:39 >> ALL RIGHT.
8/20/09 09:35:40 >> I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT THEN
8/20/09 09:35:42 REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL.
8/20/09 09:35:43 HOPEFULLY THAT THEY WILL --
8/20/09 09:35:45 >> THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
8/20/09 09:35:47 >> ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS
8/20/09 09:35:50 COUNCIL?
8/20/09 09:35:50 OKAY.
8/20/09 09:35:53 NO ONE ELSE THEN
8/20/09 09:35:54 WE'LL MOVE TO
8/20/09 09:35:56 --ANY REQUEST FOR
8/20/09 09:35:57 RECONSIDERATION ON LEGISLATIVE
8/20/09 09:35:57 MATTERS?
8/20/09 09:36:00 ANYONE ISSUE TO ASK FOR A
8/20/09 09:36:03 RECONSIDERATION ON LEGISLATIVE
8/20/09 09:36:03 MATTERS?
8/20/09 09:36:06 WE'LL MOVE TO COMMITTEE REPORT,
8/20/09 09:36:09 PUBLIC SAFETY
8/20/09 09:36:10 COMMITTEE,
8/20/09 09:36:10 COUNCILMAN MILLER.
8/20/09 09:36:12 >> ITEMS ONE THROUGH SEVEN.
8/20/09 09:36:13 >> THE MOVE IS SECOND.
8/20/09 09:36:16 ALL IN FAVOR
8/20/09 09:36:17 AYE.
8/20/09 09:36:17 >> AYE.
8/20/09 09:36:17 >> OPPOSES?
8/20/09 09:36:20 PARKS RECOLLECTION CRAIG AND
8/20/09 09:36:20 CULTURAL COMMITTEE,.
8/20/09 09:36:23 >> I'D LIKE TO MOVE
8/20/09 09:36:26 RESOLUTION
8/20/09 09:36:27 EIGHT THROUGH 19.
8/20/09 09:36:30 >> MOVE AND SECOND, ALL IN
8/20/09 09:36:32 FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
8/20/09 09:36:32 >> AYE.
8/20/09 09:36:32 >> OPPOSES?
8/20/09 09:36:35 >> I
8/20/09 09:36:36 BELIEVE WE AGREED TO PULL
8/20/09 09:36:38 RESOLUTION 20 TO THE NEXT
8/20/09 09:36:40 COUNCIL MEETING AND ASK STAFF
8/20/09 09:36:42 TO COME --
8/20/09 09:36:45 >> YES AND THAT WAS A CHANGE TO
8/20/09 09:36:46 THE AGENDA.
8/20/09 09:36:49 ITEM 20 IS THE ONE WE PULLED
8/20/09 09:36:49 TO
8/20/09 09:36:52 CONTINUE FOR --
8/20/09 09:36:55 SO PUBLIC
8/20/09 09:36:58 WORKS, COUNCILMAN
8/20/09 09:36:59 MIRANDA.
8/20/09 09:37:02 >> ITEMS 21 THROUGH 34 AND I
8/20/09 09:37:04 UNDERSTAND THAT 33 IS A
8/20/09 09:37:05 REPLACEMENT WINDOW OR WINDOWS
8/20/09 09:37:06 FOR THE CITY.
8/20/09 09:37:08 THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE THERE
8/20/09 09:37:11 IS HOW IS THIS
8/20/09 09:37:14 GOING TO BE
8/20/09 09:37:16 COMPLETED WITH SCAFFOLDING, WE
8/20/09 09:37:17 CLOSE ONE FLOOR AT A TIME, DO
8/20/09 09:37:19 ONE SIDE OF A BUILDING AT THE
8/20/09 09:37:19 TIME?
8/20/09 09:37:22 I DON'T KNOW THAT AND I LIKE TO
8/20/09 09:37:25 HAVE A REPORT BACK BECAUSE
8/20/09 09:37:25 THIS
8/20/09 09:37:26 IS IMPORTANT, I DON'T WANT
8/20/09 09:37:28 PEOPLE MOVING ALL AROUND THIS
8/20/09 09:37:29 BUILDING NEEDLESSLY.
8/20/09 09:37:31 WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FIND OUR
8/20/09 09:37:34 WAY BACK SO IF THIS IS GOING TO
8/20/09 09:37:34 BE SCAFFOLDING AROUND THE
8/20/09 09:37:37 BUILDING IT WOULD BE LOGICAL AS
8/20/09 09:37:38 PART OF ONE FLOOR, COMPLETE
8/20/09 09:37:39 THAT FLOOR AND GO TO THE NEXT
8/20/09 09:37:42 FLOOR BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT'S A
8/20/09 09:37:43 FACT AND WHAT TYPE OF WINDOWS
8/20/09 09:37:46 WERE WE USING, WHAT TYPE OF
8/20/09 09:37:48 INSULATED, DOUBLE INSULATED, I
8/20/09 09:37:48 DON'T KNOW.
8/20/09 09:37:49 I'M NOT OPPOSED TO MOVING IT.
8/20/09 09:37:51 I JUST WANT THE ANSWERS TO
8/20/09 09:37:52 THOSE QUESTIONS PGH
8/20/09 09:37:55 >> THAT ITEM HAS
8/20/09 09:37:56 BEEN PULLED BY
8/20/09 09:37:59 COUNCILMAN DEAN'S STAFF TO
8/20/09 09:38:01 APPEAR --
8/20/09 09:38:02 >> I DIDN'T KNOW, THE
8/20/09 09:38:04 CONVERSATION WITH PEOPLE IN
8/20/09 09:38:04 HIGHER OFFICE.
8/20/09 09:38:05 >> HOPEFULLY THEY'LL COME.
8/20/09 09:38:08 DO WE HAVE A
8/20/09 09:38:11 SECOND ON THE
8/20/09 09:38:16 MOTION?
8/20/09 09:38:19 >> SECOND
8/20/09 09:38:19 .
8/20/09 09:38:20 >> YOU REQUESTED 33 AND THAT'S
8/20/09 09:38:23 THE SAME ONE HE'S SPEAKING OF.
8/20/09 09:38:25 >> 32 THEN SKIP 33.
8/20/09 09:38:27 >> OKAY, I UNDERSTAND.
8/20/09 09:38:28 MY MISTAKE.
8/20/09 09:38:28 >> 33.
8/20/09 09:38:29 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 09:38:32 MOVE TO SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR
8/20/09 09:38:32 AYE.
8/20/09 09:38:35 >>
8/20/09 09:38:36 AYE.
8/20/09 09:38:37 >> OPPOSES.
8/20/09 09:38:37 OKAY.
8/20/09 09:38:39 FINANCE COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN
8/20/09 09:38:39 MIR MIR.
8/20/09 09:38:42 >> I MOVE ITEMS 35 THROUGH 39
8/20/09 09:38:42 PGH
8/20/09 09:38:43 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 09:38:46 >> MOVE TO SECOND.
8/20/09 09:38:47 ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFICANT --
8/20/09 09:38:50 SIGNIFY BY SAYING
8/20/09 09:38:55 AYE.
8/20/09 09:38:56 >> OPPOSES.
8/20/09 09:38:59 >> COUNCIL MAN
8/20/09 09:39:06 CAETANO.
8/20/09 09:39:07 >> 71.
8/20/09 09:39:07 >> CORRECT.
8/20/09 09:39:10 >> I'LL SECOND THAT.
8/20/09 09:39:12 >> THAT WAS TOO MANY.
8/20/09 09:39:12 >> (SPEAKING OFF MIKE).
8/20/09 09:39:15 >> I WANT TO INCLUDE THOSE IN
8/20/09 09:39:18 THE MOTION I WANT TO CALL TO
8/20/09 09:39:21 THE ATTENTION THAT ITEMS, ITEM
8/20/09 09:39:23 40 AGAIN IS THE ADMINISTRATION,
8/20/09 09:39:24 THE CITY IS WORKING WITH
8/20/09 09:39:27 NONPROFIT IN TERMS
8/20/09 09:39:28 OF HOUSING
8/20/09 09:39:29 DEVELOPMENT, WHICH ARE GOOD
8/20/09 09:39:32 THINGS FOR THE CITY,
8/20/09 09:39:34 ITEM 40,
8/20/09 09:39:37 ITEM 41, ITEM 42,
8/20/09 09:39:38 ITEM 43, 44,
8/20/09 09:39:42 45, AND 45 BY THE WAY
8/20/09 09:39:45 IS THE
8/20/09 09:39:48 CDG AND ITEM
8/20/09 09:39:49 48.
8/20/09 09:39:52 ALL THOSE ITEMS AND THEN THE
8/20/09 09:39:54 OTHER ITEMS 67 THROUGH 70, IN
8/20/09 09:39:57 FACT
8/20/09 09:40:00 64, TOO.
8/20/09 09:40:03 THAT'S HUD, AND ITEMS
8/20/09 09:40:06 67, 68,
8/20/09 09:40:09 69, 70 AND 71, ALL
8/20/09 09:40:11 DEALING WITH
8/20/09 09:40:13 THE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION
8/20/09 09:40:15 PROGRAM WHEREFORE CLOSURE IS
8/20/09 09:40:16 TAKING PLACE IN NEIGHBORHOODS
8/20/09 09:40:18 SO THE OPPORTUNITY IS TO GO
8/20/09 09:40:20 AHEAD AND BUY THE FORECLOSED
8/20/09 09:40:22 HOUSES OR PROPERTIES AND TRY TO
8/20/09 09:40:22 GET THEM CLEANED UP AND
8/20/09 09:40:23 REDEVELOPED FOR THE AREAS.
8/20/09 09:40:25 I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE
8/20/09 09:40:28 MONEY THAT IS COMING
8/20/09 09:40:29 THROUGH
8/20/09 09:40:29 THE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION
8/20/09 09:40:31 PROGRAM PGH
8/20/09 09:40:33 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 09:40:36 >> ALL
8/20/09 09:40:36 RIGHT.
8/20/09 09:40:36 >> YES.
8/20/09 09:40:38 >> YOU SAW THE ARTICLE IN THE
8/20/09 09:40:41 PAPER THAT YOU HAD MADE A VERY
8/20/09 09:40:44 GOOD INQUIRY ABOUT THE,
8/20/09 09:40:45 WAS IT
8/20/09 09:40:47 THE VENDORS, I WAS LOOKING IT
8/20/09 09:40:50 DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT'S A
8/20/09 09:40:52 CONTRACT --
8/20/09 09:40:54 >> THAT'S THROUGH THE STATE AND
8/20/09 09:40:56 THE CITY ISN'T INVOLVED.
8/20/09 09:40:57 BELIEVE ME I WISH THE CITY WERE
8/20/09 09:40:58 INVOLVED PGH
8/20/09 09:41:00 >> IS THAT COMING TO COUNCIL
8/20/09 09:41:01 EVENTUALLY OR --
8/20/09 09:41:04 >> NOT AT ALL ON THAT PGH
8/20/09 09:41:05 >> NO.
8/20/09 09:41:05 THAT'S STATE.
8/20/09 09:41:07 >> SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT
8/20/09 09:41:07 PROGRAM.
8/20/09 09:41:08 >> I APPRECIATE YOUR DILIGENCE
8/20/09 09:41:10 IN LOOKING INTO THAT.
8/20/09 09:41:12 MOVE TO SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR
8/20/09 09:41:15 SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
8/20/09 09:41:16 >> AYE.
8/20/09 09:41:17 >> OPPOSES.
8/20/09 09:41:17 OKAY.
8/20/09 09:41:20 TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE
8/20/09 09:41:21 COUNCIL.
8/20/09 09:41:22 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:41:23 WE DID SO MANY ITEMS THIS
8/20/09 09:41:26 MORNING I DON'T KNOW IF ANY
8/20/09 09:41:27 OF
8/20/09 09:41:28 THESE WERE PULLED.
8/20/09 09:41:31 I'LL MOVE 72 THROUGH 80 AND
8/20/09 09:41:34 ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION ON 72 PGH
8/20/09 09:41:37 >> I WANT TO MENTION AND THIS
8/20/09 09:41:41 IS
8/20/09 09:41:44 40th STREET,
8/20/09 09:41:44 $4.2 MILLION.
8/20/09 09:41:47 THIS IS HILLSBORO TO HANNAH AND
8/20/09 09:41:49 THIS PROJECT WHEN I FIRST WAS
8/20/09 09:41:52 SELECTED, 40th STREET, IN 1996,
8/20/09 09:41:55 IT WAS $53 MILLION TO REDO
8/20/09 09:41:55 40th STREET.
8/20/09 09:41:58 TOTAL PRICE AS OF TODAY
8/20/09 09:42:00 WILL
8/20/09 09:42:02 RUN $106 MILLION, SHOWING YOU
8/20/09 09:42:05 HOW THINGS CHANGED FROM
8/20/09 09:42:06 1996 TO
8/20/09 09:42:07 2009.
8/20/09 09:42:10 >> BUT IT SURE LOOKS GOOD PGH
8/20/09 09:42:13 >> WELL, THE ISSUE IS, IF WE
8/20/09 09:42:15 HAD OF DONE IT BACK THEN WE
8/20/09 09:42:18 COULD HAVE SAVED A LOT OF MONEY
8/20/09 09:42:19 BUT NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.
8/20/09 09:42:20 LOOKS WELL, IT'S BEAUTIFUL,
8/20/09 09:42:22 GLAD THINGS ARE GETTING DONE SO
8/20/09 09:42:23 I JUST WANT TODAY HIGHLIGHT
8/20/09 09:42:24 THAT PGH
8/20/09 09:42:25 >> CHAIRMAN, NOT TO DISPUTE
8/20/09 09:42:27 ANYTHING YOU SAY, YOU'RE THE
8/20/09 09:42:28 LEADER
8/20/09 09:42:30 BUT LET ME SAY WHILE THE
8/20/09 09:42:32 PROBLEM, WHY IT TOOK SO LONG
8/20/09 09:42:35 YOU HAD EITHER TO BUY THE
8/20/09 09:42:36 PROPERTIES OR GO THROUGH
8/20/09 09:42:38 EMINENT DOMAIN AND IT WAS A LOT
8/20/09 09:42:39 EASIER TO DO.
8/20/09 09:42:40 THAT TOOK A SUBSTANTIAL PERIOD
8/20/09 09:42:42 OF TIME IN GETTING THOSE
8/20/09 09:42:44 PREPARATION AND I WAN THE
8/20/09 09:42:45 PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT
8/20/09 09:42:46 IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
8/20/09 09:42:48 GOVERNMENT JUST CAN'T DO, KNOCK
8/20/09 09:42:49 ON THE DOOR AND SAY YOU HAVE
8/20/09 09:42:50 GOT TO GET OUT BECAUSE I'M
8/20/09 09:42:53 ASKING YOU
8/20/09 09:42:56 TO LEAVE.
8/20/09 09:42:56 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 09:42:57 >> PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR --
8/20/09 09:42:58 >> ALL RIGHT.
8/20/09 09:43:00 I MOVE TO SECOND.
8/20/09 09:43:01 ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
8/20/09 09:43:01 >> AYE.
8/20/09 09:43:03 >> OPPOSES PGH
8/20/09 09:43:05 >> PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR 81 AND
8/20/09 09:43:05 82.
8/20/09 09:43:06 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 09:43:08 >> ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
8/20/09 09:43:10 SAYING AYE.
8/20/09 09:43:11 >> AYE.
8/20/09 09:43:12 >> OPPOSES PUBLIC HEARING ITEM
8/20/09 09:43:13 NEED TO OPEN --
8/20/09 09:43:14 >> SO MOVED.
8/20/09 09:43:15 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 09:43:17 >> ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
8/20/09 09:43:18 >> AYE.
8/20/09 09:43:21 >> LET ME MOVE ITEM 91 I
8/20/09 09:43:23 BELIEVE IT IS, MR. O'NEILL IS
8/20/09 09:43:24 HERE AND HE HAS ANOTHER MEETING
8/20/09 09:43:27 HE NEEDS TO ATTEND SO I NEED TO
8/20/09 09:43:29 MOVE UP ITEM 91.
8/20/09 09:43:32 YOU WAN TO
8/20/09 09:43:35 ADDRESS THAT
8/20/09 09:43:36 ITEM?
8/20/09 09:43:38 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:43:38 GOOD MORNING.
8/20/09 09:43:39 >> GOOD MORNING.
8/20/09 09:43:42 >> WE'RE THE CEO FOR HART, THE
8/20/09 09:43:45 CONTRACT FOR
8/20/09 09:43:45 THE STREETCAR.
8/20/09 09:43:47 THERE'S A LETTER THERE, DAVE
8/20/09 09:43:49 COULDN'T BE HERE AS SCHEDULED.
8/20/09 09:43:50 PERHAPS GOOD BUSINESS GOING FOR
8/20/09 09:43:53 DAVE AND WE'LL BE HAPPY ABOUT
8/20/09 09:43:54 THAT BUT HE APPRECIATES THE
8/20/09 09:43:55 OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COME
8/20/09 09:43:57 FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL
8/20/09 09:43:57 TODAY.
8/20/09 09:43:59 WHAT I WANT TODAY SHARE WITH
8/20/09 09:44:01 YOU WAS A HANDOUT RIGHT HERE.
8/20/09 09:44:02 WE HAVE CONDUCTED OVER THE
8/20/09 09:44:05 COURSE OF THE SUMMER, THE LAST
8/20/09 09:44:06 MONTH, SIX OUTREACH MEETINGS.
8/20/09 09:44:07 WE HAVE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT
8/20/09 09:44:10 ABOUT THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT
8/20/09 09:44:12 AND ALL OF THE COMMENTS HAVE
8/20/09 09:44:12 BEEN GOOD.
8/20/09 09:44:14 WHAT I WISH I COULD HAVE SHARED
8/20/09 09:44:16 IN THIS PACKET THERE'S A NICE
8/20/09 09:44:17 COUPLE FLOW CHARTS.
8/20/09 09:44:19 THIS IS THE DATA FROM '08.
8/20/09 09:44:21 I CAN TELL YOU FROM THE CURRENT
8/20/09 09:44:24 FISCAL YEAR '09, THE COFFS ARE
8/20/09 09:44:24 DOWN BY ALMOST 29 PERCENT.
8/20/09 09:44:26 WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SPEED UP
8/20/09 09:44:27 THE TRAINS A BIT ON SOME OF THE
8/20/09 09:44:29 DAYS WHEN WE OPERATE WITH MAYBE
8/20/09 09:44:33 A LITTLE LESS SERVICE, WE'RE
8/20/09 09:44:34 ACTUALLY OPERATING ON 15 TO 20
8/20/09 09:44:35 MINUTE HEAD WINDS INSTEAD OF 15
8/20/09 09:44:36 SO WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CUT
8/20/09 09:44:38 COSTS QUITE A BIT TO THE TUNE
8/20/09 09:44:40 OF A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
8/20/09 09:44:41 IN FACT WE HAVE DROWN DOWN, NOT
8/20/09 09:44:44 DRAWN DOWN FROM THE ENDOWMENT
8/20/09 09:44:44 THE FIRST NINE MONTHS SO WE'RE
8/20/09 09:44:46 DOING WELL SO I WANT TO SAY
8/20/09 09:44:48 RIDERSHIP IS UP BY SOME 45,000
8/20/09 09:44:49 TRIPS, REVENUES ARE UP AND
8/20/09 09:44:51 COSTS ARE DOWN SO THE STREETCAR
8/20/09 09:44:54 IS DOING EXTREMELY WELL
8/20/09 09:44:55 THIS
8/20/09 09:44:55 YEAR.
8/20/09 09:44:56 FARE BOX RECOVERY IS
8/20/09 09:44:57 APPROACHING 31 PERCENT OF
8/20/09 09:44:58 SERVICE WHICH PROBABLY WOULD BE
8/20/09 09:45:00 THE MOST PRODUCTIVE SERVICE IN
8/20/09 09:45:03 THE NETWORK SO WE'RE VERY PROUD
8/20/09 09:45:05 OF THAT AND IT CERTAINLY IS A
8/20/09 09:45:06 LITTLE TRAIN THAT COULD AND
8/20/09 09:45:08 IT'S DOING A VERY GOOD JOB SO
8/20/09 09:45:09 I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN
8/20/09 09:45:10 QUESTIONS I MAY HAVE FOR YOU
8/20/09 09:45:13 AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME
8/20/09 09:45:13 HERE TODAY.
8/20/09 09:45:15 >> I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT
8/20/09 09:45:17 YOU ON THE GREAT JOB YOU'RE
8/20/09 09:45:18 DOING FOR THE STREETCAR.
8/20/09 09:45:19 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:45:21 >> AND HART IS DOING AND
8/20/09 09:45:24 THRILLED TO HEAR THE GOOD NEWS
8/20/09 09:45:27 ABOUT THE FARE BOX AND I WANT
8/20/09 09:45:29 TO TRU-MPET THAT, WHAT DID YOU
8/20/09 09:45:31 JUST SAY, THAT THE STREETCAR
8/20/09 09:45:33 FARE RECOVERY IS BETTER THAN --
8/20/09 09:45:36 >> NOW UP TO ABOUT 31
8/20/09 09:45:36 PERCENT.
8/20/09 09:45:38 >> AND WHAT IS IT FOR THE BUS
8/20/09 09:45:40 SYSTEM I GUESS OR --
8/20/09 09:45:43 >> THE BUS SYSTEM IS
8/20/09 09:45:44 IN THE,
8/20/09 09:45:46 FROM 18 TO 22 PERCENT BUT 31
8/20/09 09:45:46 PERCENT IS DOING WELL.
8/20/09 09:45:48 >> PEOPLE NEED TO KEEP IT IN
8/20/09 09:45:51 MIND BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE TO
8/20/09 09:45:53 PICK ON OUR LITTLE STREETCAR
8/20/09 09:45:54 AND IT'S ACTUALLY DOING VERY
8/20/09 09:45:57 WELL, AS A PUBLIC
8/20/09 09:45:59 TRANSPORTATION OPTION, THAT
8/20/09 09:46:02 DOESN'T GO VERY FAR AND THE
8/20/09 09:46:04 CRITICISMS OF IT I THINK NEED
8/20/09 09:46:07 TO BE PUT INTO CONTEXT OF THE
8/20/09 09:46:10 FACT THAT IT DOES DO VERY
8/20/09 09:46:11 WELL
8/20/09 09:46:14 IN RECOVERING THE FARES, PUBLIC
8/20/09 09:46:16 TRANSPORTATION DOESN'T PAY YOUR
8/20/09 09:46:18 PAY FOR ITSELF IN FARES AND
8/20/09 09:46:19 EVEN BY THOSE STANDARDS IT'S
8/20/09 09:46:21 DOING WELL AND THANKS FOR YOUR
8/20/09 09:46:21 REPORT.
8/20/09 09:46:22 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:46:23 I WANT TO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING
8/20/09 09:46:27 YOU HAVE SAID AND YOU KNOW
8/20/09 09:46:27 THERE'S ALWAYS TWO SIDES TO AN
8/20/09 09:46:28 ISSUE, ONE SIDE IS WRONG, AND
8/20/09 09:46:30 ONE SIDE IS RIGHT.
8/20/09 09:46:31 THEN THE SIDE THAT'S WRONG IS
8/20/09 09:46:34 RIGHT AND THE SIDE THAT'S RIGHT
8/20/09 09:46:35 IS WRONG, MEANING THIS.
8/20/09 09:46:37 THAT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WITH
8/20/09 09:46:40 ALL OF THIS, A LOT OF PEOPLE
8/20/09 09:46:41 WERE AGAINST THE STREETCAR BUT
8/20/09 09:46:44 THEN AGAIN WE HAD A CONVENTION
8/20/09 09:46:46 CENTER WITHOUT A CONVENTION
8/20/09 09:46:46 HOTEL.
8/20/09 09:46:49 THERE WAS NO HARBOR
8/20/09 09:46:52 ISLAND,
8/20/09 09:46:54 THERE WAS NO CHANNEL DRIVE, IT
8/20/09 09:46:57 WAS LIKE YOU COME TO TAMPA AND
8/20/09 09:47:00 YOU GO BACK HOME AND THEY ASK
8/20/09 09:47:01 HOW WAS TAMPA, THEY SAID I
8/20/09 09:47:02 DON'T KNOW I HAD TO SLEEP DAY
8/20/09 09:47:02 AND NIGHT.
8/20/09 09:47:04 THERE WAS NOTHING TO DO.
8/20/09 09:47:06 THERE WASN'T ANYTHING TO DO SO
8/20/09 09:47:09 THE STREETCAR ADDED THE A-M-
8/20/09 09:47:11 BIENCE, THE CONVENTION HOTEL,
8/20/09 09:47:13 NOW THERE'S TWO OR THREE NOW,
8/20/09 09:47:14 THERE WAS ONLY ONE.
8/20/09 09:47:15 CHANNEL SIDE IS CERTAINLY
8/20/09 09:47:18 SOMETHING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE
8/20/09 09:47:21 GOING THERE AND
8/20/09 09:47:22 THERE'S NOW A
8/20/09 09:47:22 CIRCULAR AREA WHERE PEOPLE CAN
8/20/09 09:47:24 GO FROM THE CITY AND THROUGHOUT
8/20/09 09:47:27 CITY TO COME BACK AND GENERATE
8/20/09 09:47:29 REVENUES FOR BUSINESSES A LONG
8/20/09 09:47:31 NOT ONLY HERE BUT OTHER AREAS.
8/20/09 09:47:34 WE WERE A STOPPING POINT
8/20/09 09:47:35 FOR
8/20/09 09:47:36 ANOTHER CITY THAT HAS EARS, I'M
8/20/09 09:47:37 NOT GOING TO MENTION THAT CITY
8/20/09 09:47:39 BUT THAT WAS IT.
8/20/09 09:47:41 YOU WOULD GET YOUR PLANE, GO TO
8/20/09 09:47:43 THE GARDENS, YOU DRIVE TO THE
8/20/09 09:47:44 OTHER CITY AND THAT WAS IT SO
8/20/09 09:47:47 NOW WE HAVE A LOT MORE TO OFFER
8/20/09 09:47:48 AND IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE TAKEN
8/20/09 09:47:50 THE STEPS LIKE YOURSELF AND THE
8/20/09 09:47:52 OTHER PAST ADMINISTRATION AND
8/20/09 09:47:53 THIS ADMINISTRATION, TO MAKE
8/20/09 09:47:55 SURE THAT WHEN THE PEOPLE LEAVE
8/20/09 09:47:56 HERE THEY HAVE SOMETHING
8/20/09 09:47:59 POSITIVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
8/20/09 09:47:59 CITY.
8/20/09 09:48:02 THAT MEANS A LOT MORE THAN ANY
8/20/09 09:48:04 LOSS YOU CAN HAVE AND ANY OF
8/20/09 09:48:06 THE SYSTEMS THAT YOU HAVE
8/20/09 09:48:07 BECAUSE PEOPLE NOW CAN MOVE,
8/20/09 09:48:09 PEOPLE NOW CAN SEE SOMETHING
8/20/09 09:48:12 DIFFERENT AND IT'S BECOMING A
8/20/09 09:48:13 VERY VIE BRAN AREA AND I WAN TO
8/20/09 09:48:16 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8/20/09 09:48:18 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:48:20 >> I WISH TO ADDRESS COUNCIL, I
8/20/09 09:48:22 SPEAK ON THIS ITEM THE PUBLIC
8/20/09 09:48:24 HEARING ON ITEM 91.
8/20/09 09:48:27 >> I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THE
8/20/09 09:48:29 STREETCAR HAS HIRED SOMEBODY TO
8/20/09 09:48:29 SELL ADDITIONAL ADVERTISING SO
8/20/09 09:48:32 I WANT TO PUT IN A PLUG FOR THE
8/20/09 09:48:34 FACT THAT OUR STATIONS AND OUR
8/20/09 09:48:36 CARS THEMSELVES WILL HAVE
8/20/09 09:48:37 ADDITIONAL ADVERTISING
8/20/09 09:48:38 OPPORTUNITIES WHICH WILL
8/20/09 09:48:41 GENERATE REVENUE ALL TO
8/20/09 09:48:41 THE
8/20/09 09:48:41 GOOD.
8/20/09 09:48:44 I WANT
8/20/09 09:48:46 TO RECOLLECTION NICE
8/20/09 09:48:46 THAT.
8/20/09 09:48:49 IF ANYONE WANTS TO ADVERTISE
8/20/09 09:48:50 ON
8/20/09 09:48:51 THE STREETCARS --
8/20/09 09:48:52 >> AS LONG AS WE'RE TALKING
8/20/09 09:48:55 ABOUT THE STREETCAR I
8/20/09 09:48:55 WANTED TO
8/20/09 09:48:56 EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION TO THE
8/20/09 09:48:59 PORT WHO VOTED THE OTHER DAY
8/20/09 09:49:00 TO
8/20/09 09:49:01 CONTINUE WITH THEIR ASSIST AND
8/20/09 09:49:04 TO THE STREETCAR TO THE TUNE OF
8/20/09 09:49:06 I THINK $150,000 FOR THIS
8/20/09 09:49:09 COMING YEAR SO I THINK IT WAS A
8/20/09 09:49:12 GOOD VOTE ON THEIR PART, I
8/20/09 09:49:14 THINK THE STREETCAR IS A VERY
8/20/09 09:49:16 VALUABLE ADDITION TO EVERYTHING
8/20/09 09:49:17 THAT THE PORT HAS GOING ON BUT
8/20/09 09:49:19 I JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THE
8/20/09 09:49:22 MEMBERS OF THE PORT WHO VOTED
8/20/09 09:49:23 FOR THAT.
8/20/09 09:49:23 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:49:26 >> DO WE HAVE A VOTE ON THIS
8/20/09 09:49:29 WHILE IT'S
8/20/09 09:49:34 OPEN?
8/20/09 09:49:37 >> YES .
8/20/09 09:49:40 >> OKAY, MOTION BY COUNCIL
8/20/09 09:49:41 ON
8/20/09 09:49:44 THE CENTER,
8/20/09 09:49:46 SECOND BY
8/20/09 09:49:46 COUNCILWOMAN MUL-HERN.
8/20/09 09:49:48 >> MOTION TO CLOSE THAT.
8/20/09 09:49:51 >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
8/20/09 09:49:52 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 09:49:52 >> CLOSED.
8/20/09 09:49:55 >> THANK
8/20/09 09:49:56 YOU.
8/20/09 09:49:59 >>
8/20/09 09:50:02 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:50:41 (BRIEF PAUSE)
8/20/09 09:50:44 >> WE HAVE MAINTAINED CHANGES
8/20/09 09:50:44 TO THE PROGRAM.
8/20/09 09:50:47 WE HAVE MADE A CONCERTED EFFORT
8/20/09 09:50:50 TO EDUCATE, NOTIFY, THE
8/20/09 09:50:50 PROPERTY OWNERS.
8/20/09 09:50:51 WE SENT THEM INDIVIDUAL LETTERS
8/20/09 09:50:53 AND HELD A WORKSHOP ON AUGUST
8/20/09 09:50:56 11th AND WITH THAT I ASK
8/20/09 09:50:57 YOU,
8/20/09 09:50:57 THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION.
8/20/09 09:50:58 I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
8/20/09 09:51:01 >> I WANT
8/20/09 09:51:02 TO COMPLIMENT THE
8/20/09 09:51:03 WEST SHORE ALLIANCE FOR YOUR
8/20/09 09:51:04 LEADERSHIP IN THINKING OF AND
8/20/09 09:51:06 FUNDING AND NOW TRYING TO
8/20/09 09:51:07 IMPLEMENT A PEDESTRIAN PLAN.
8/20/09 09:51:09 THIS IS THE KIND OF THING WE
8/20/09 09:51:10 NEED TO DO COMMUNITY WIDE BUT
8/20/09 09:51:12 YOU ALL REALLY TOOK A
8/20/09 09:51:15 LEADERSHIP
8/20/09 09:51:15 ROLE.
8/20/09 09:51:17 IT'S A GREAT PLAN AND I WANT
8/20/09 09:51:19 THE CITY TO BE PARTNERS WITH
8/20/09 09:51:22 YOU IN
8/20/09 09:51:22 THE IMPLEMENTATION.
8/20/09 09:51:23 THE IDEA WEST SHORE EVOLVING
8/20/09 09:51:25 FROM AN OFFICE AREA TO A TRUE
8/20/09 09:51:27 COMMUNITY WITH HOUSING AND
8/20/09 09:51:30 RETAIL AND OFFICES AND BEING
8/20/09 09:51:33 PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY IS A
8/20/09 09:51:33 REAL,
8/20/09 09:51:34 AN ENORMOUS STEP AND YOU HAVE
8/20/09 09:51:36 BEEN LEADERS IN CREATING THAT
8/20/09 09:51:37 SO CONGRATULATIONS.
8/20/09 09:51:37 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:51:39 >> I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO USING
8/20/09 09:51:42 SOME SPECIAL ASSESSMENT FUNDS
8/20/09 09:51:44 FOR THAT.
8/20/09 09:51:47 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:51:47 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 09:51:50 >> MOVE
8/20/09 09:51:51 THE SECOND.
8/20/09 09:51:54 ALL IN FAVOR, BY COUNCILWOMAN
8/20/09 09:51:56 MILLER AND MULHERN.
8/20/09 09:51:58 SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
8/20/09 09:51:59 >> YES.
8/20/09 09:52:00 >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
8/20/09 09:52:02 >> AND WE HAVE TWO MORE OF
8/20/09 09:52:05 THOSE ITEM 89 AND 90.
8/20/09 09:52:06 MOTION TO --
8/20/09 09:52:08 >> SO MOVED.
8/20/09 09:52:09 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 09:52:12 >> SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
8/20/09 09:52:15 >>
8/20/09 09:52:16 AYE.
8/20/09 09:52:17 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 09:52:20 ITEM 89, ANYONE WISH TO ADDRESS
8/20/09 09:52:23 COUNCIL ON
8/20/09 09:52:26 ITEM 89?
8/20/09 09:52:26 NO ONE WISHES TO ADDRESS
8/20/09 09:52:26 COUNCIL.
8/20/09 09:52:28 MOTION TO CLOSE.
8/20/09 09:52:30 >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
8/20/09 09:52:32 >> WE NEED TO HAVE THE VOTE
8/20/09 09:52:34 DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING BEING
8/20/09 09:52:37 OPENED AND I JUST WANTED TO --
8/20/09 09:52:39 I DO WAN TO STEP IN FRONT OF
8/20/09 09:52:40 SOMEBODY IF THEY'RE GOING TO
8/20/09 09:52:40 SPEAK.
8/20/09 09:52:43 WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL ITEM,
8/20/09 09:52:44 ONE LETTER OF OBJECTION WHICH I
8/20/09 09:52:45 HAVE SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL
8/20/09 09:52:48 MEMBERS AND THE CITY CLERK AND
8/20/09 09:52:49 THE COUNCIL'S ATTORNEY JUST TO
8/20/09 09:52:52 ENTER IT
8/20/09 09:52:54 INTO THE RECORD.
8/20/09 09:52:56 IT'S DATED AUGUST 10th, FROM
8/20/09 09:52:56 MR. HANNAH.
8/20/09 09:52:59 I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S HERE TO
8/20/09 09:52:59 SPEAK.
8/20/09 09:53:00 IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT ANYBODY
8/20/09 09:53:00 IS.
8/20/09 09:53:02 BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
8/20/09 09:53:05 WAS IN THE RECORD PGH
8/20/09 09:53:08 >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
8/20/09 09:53:08 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 09:53:11 ANY QUESTION BY COUNCIL, THIS
8/20/09 09:53:14 IS ON
8/20/09 09:53:17 THE STORM WATER FEE.
8/20/09 09:53:20 >> YES?
8/20/09 09:53:23 >> CITY
8/20/09 09:53:23 WIDE?
8/20/09 09:53:26 >> CITY
8/20/09 09:53:28 WIDE.
8/20/09 09:53:31 >>
8/20/09 09:53:31 YES.
8/20/09 09:53:32 >> THANKS.
8/20/09 09:53:33 >> THAT MOTION?
8/20/09 09:53:35 MOVE TO SECOND.
8/20/09 09:53:38 ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
8/20/09 09:53:41 SAYING
8/20/09 09:53:42 AYE.
8/20/09 09:53:43 >> AYE.
8/20/09 09:53:45 >> ITEM 90, MOTION TO OPEN.
8/20/09 09:53:45 >> MOVE.
8/20/09 09:53:46 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 09:53:49 >> AYE.
8/20/09 09:53:52 >> AYE.
8/20/09 09:53:52 >> OPPOSE.
8/20/09 09:53:52 OKAY.
8/20/09 09:53:54 >> YOU WAN TO COME IN?
8/20/09 09:53:57 OKAY COME ON IN.
8/20/09 09:53:58 COME ON.
8/20/09 09:54:01 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL
8/20/09 09:54:01 MEMBERS.
8/20/09 09:54:03 MY NAME IS RICHARD DAVIS, I'M
8/20/09 09:54:05 HERE AS CHAIRMAN OF THE SPECIAL
8/20/09 09:54:06 SERVICES DISTRICT TAMPA
8/20/09 09:54:07 DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AND WE'RE
8/20/09 09:54:08 AGAIN BEFORE YOU AND
8/20/09 09:54:09 RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR
8/20/09 09:54:12 CONFIRMATION OF
8/20/09 09:54:13 THE ASSESSMENT.
8/20/09 09:54:14 WE AS ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE
8/20/09 09:54:17 ATTENTION WE RECEIVE FROM THE
8/20/09 09:54:19 CITY AND WE ALSO APPRECIATE
8/20/09 09:54:20 EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE TO
8/20/09 09:54:22 WORK CLOSELY WITH YOU ALL WITH
8/20/09 09:54:24 THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE.
8/20/09 09:54:25 WE DO HAVE FOLKS HERE THIS
8/20/09 09:54:26 MORNING TO RESPOND TO ANY
8/20/09 09:54:27 QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
8/20/09 09:54:28 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:54:30 THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
8/20/09 09:54:33 ANYONE WISH TO ADDRESS COUNCIL?
8/20/09 09:54:34 PUBLIC HEARING, ANYONE WISH TO
8/20/09 09:54:34 ADDRESS COUNCIL.
8/20/09 09:54:35 >> JUST THE ONE ITEM.
8/20/09 09:54:36 YOU DID RECEIVE A LETTER FROM
8/20/09 09:54:37 THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
8/20/09 09:54:38 I ASK YOU RECEIVE AND FILE THAT
8/20/09 09:54:39 ITEM.
8/20/09 09:54:41 >> OKAY PGH
8/20/09 09:54:43 >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
8/20/09 09:54:44 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 09:54:47 >> I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT
8/20/09 09:54:48 THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP ON THE
8/20/09 09:54:50 SPLENDID JOB DO YOU WITH MAKING
8/20/09 09:54:51 OUR DOWNTOWN SAFE, TELLING THE
8/20/09 09:54:54 WORLD ABOUT IT AND MAKING IT
8/20/09 09:54:56 MORE ATTRACTIVE.
8/20/09 09:54:59 >> THEN MOVE
8/20/09 09:55:01 TO SECOND.
8/20/09 09:55:03 ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING
8/20/09 09:55:03 AYE.
8/20/09 09:55:03 >> AYE.
8/20/09 09:55:04 >> OPPOSES.
8/20/09 09:55:06 >> MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC
8/20/09 09:55:07 HEARING.
8/20/09 09:55:08 >> ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
8/20/09 09:55:10 SAYING AYE.
8/20/09 09:55:11 >> AYE.
8/20/09 09:55:14 >> OPPOSES.
8/20/09 09:55:17 >>
8/20/09 09:55:20 OKAY.
8/20/09 09:55:23 ALL RIGHT.
8/20/09 09:55:25 >> THANKS.
8/20/09 09:55:27 >> WE CAN'T TAKE UP 93 UNTIL
8/20/09 09:55:30 10:00 O'CLOCK AND THAT'S ABOUT
8/20/09 09:55:31 SEVEN MINUTES.
8/20/09 09:55:31 >> 83.
8/20/09 09:55:34 >> COUNCIL WE'RE GOING BACK
8/20/09 09:55:35 TO
8/20/09 09:55:35 ITEM 83.
8/20/09 09:55:37 WE CAN'T TAKE UP 93 UNTIL 10:00
8/20/09 09:55:40 O'CLOCK SO WE'RE STILL
8/20/09 09:55:41 ON 9:30
8/20/09 09:55:41 ITEMS.
8/20/09 09:55:44 WELL THIS IS
8/20/09 09:55:44 SECOND READING.
8/20/09 09:55:46 OKAY.
8/20/09 09:55:46 THIS CONTINUES THE PUBLIC
8/20/09 09:55:46 HEARING.
8/20/09 09:55:48 >> YOU CAN MAKE THE MOTION TO
8/20/09 09:55:51 OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
8/20/09 09:55:53 >> I BELIEVE WE DID.
8/20/09 09:55:56 >> THEN IT'S JUST INQUIRING AS
8/20/09 09:55:56 TO WHETHER ANYBODY WISHES TO
8/20/09 09:55:58 SPEAK TO IT.
8/20/09 09:56:00 >> 83, ANYONE WISH TO ADDRESS
8/20/09 09:56:00 ITEM 83.
8/20/09 09:56:00 MOTION CLOSED.
8/20/09 09:56:02 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
8/20/09 09:56:05 >> ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
8/20/09 09:56:08 SAYING
8/20/09 09:56:12 AYE.
8/20/09 09:56:13 >> AYE.
8/20/09 09:56:14 >> COUNCILMAN?
8/20/09 09:56:17 >> SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
8/20/09 09:56:20 >>
8/20/09 09:56:22 CITY OF TAMPA CODE
8/20/09 09:56:24 ORDINANCES CHAPTER 3 ALCOHOL
8/20/09 09:56:27 AND BEVERAGES DEALING WITH
8/20/09 09:56:28 POSSESSION OR CONSUMPTION ON
8/20/09 09:56:31 PROPERTY OPERATED OR
8/20/09 09:56:33 SUPERVISED
8/20/09 09:56:35 BY THE PARKS AND RECOLLECTION
8/20/09 09:56:38 CRAIG DEPARTMENT
8/20/09 09:56:40 PROVIDING FOR
8/20/09 09:56:41 PROVIDING AN EFFECT DATE AND --
8/20/09 09:56:44 >> MOVE
8/20/09 09:56:47 TO
8/20/09 09:56:50 SECOND.
8/20/09 09:56:53 >> SECOND
8/20/09 09:56:57 (TALKING OFF
8/20/09 09:56:58 MICROPHONE)
8/20/09 09:57:01 >> I THOUGHT I DID.
8/20/09 09:57:04 >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8/20/09 09:57:07 >> ITEM 84, ITEM 84, ANYONE
8/20/09 09:57:10 WISH TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ON ITEM
8/20/09 09:57:11 84.
8/20/09 09:57:15 >> ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
8/20/09 09:57:15 SAYING AYE.
8/20/09 09:57:16 >> AYE.
8/20/09 09:57:17 >> COUNCILWOMAN MULHERN.
8/20/09 09:57:18 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 09:57:21 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE THE CITY OF
8/20/09 09:57:24 TAMPA FLORIDA AMENDING CODE OF
8/20/09 09:57:25 ORDINANCES CHAPTER 16, PARKS
8/20/09 09:57:26 AND RECOLLECTION CRAIG
8/20/09 09:57:28 APPEALING ARTICLE 1, IN GENERAL
8/20/09 09:57:30 IN ITS ENTIRETY CREATING
8/20/09 09:57:31 ARTICLE 1, GENERAL, ARTICLE 2,
8/20/09 09:57:34 TREE TRUST FUND IN THE ENTIRETY
8/20/09 09:57:35 AND CREATING ARTICLE 2 PERMITS
8/20/09 09:57:38 AND USE REGULATIONS, REPEALING
8/20/09 09:57:40 ARTICLE 3, LANDSCAPE AREA TRUST
8/20/09 09:57:40 FUND.
8/20/09 09:57:42 IN THE ENTIRETY CREATING
8/20/09 09:57:45 ARTICLE 3, FACILITIES AND
8/20/09 09:57:47 ACTIVITIES, REPEALING ARTICLE
8/20/09 09:57:49 4, BEN P DAVIS MUNICIPAL BEACH
8/20/09 09:57:50 IN ITS ENTIRETY.
8/20/09 09:57:53 ARTICLE 4,
8/20/09 09:57:55 CITY MARINAS,
8/20/09 09:57:59 JURISDICTIONAL WATERS AND
8/20/09 09:58:00 CREATING ARTICLE 5 AND TREE
8/20/09 09:58:03 TRUNK FUND, 6 AND WATER
8/20/09 09:58:03 TAXI
8/20/09 09:58:04 REGULATIONS IN ENTIRETY AND
8/20/09 09:58:06 CREATING ARTICLE 6 DEDICATING
8/20/09 09:58:07 PARKS AND REPEALING ARTICLE 7
8/20/09 09:58:10 DEDICATED PARKS IN THE ENTIRETY
8/20/09 09:58:11 CREATING ARTICLE 7, LANDSCAPE
8/20/09 09:58:12 AREA TRUST FUND CREATING
8/20/09 09:58:15 ARTICLE 8,
8/20/09 09:58:17 DEFINITIONS
8/20/09 09:58:18 PROVIDING FOR APPEALING
8/20/09 09:58:19 CONFLICTS PROVIDING AN
8/20/09 09:58:19 EFFECTIVE DATE.
8/20/09 09:58:22 >> MOVE TO SECOND
8/20/09 09:58:25 AND SECOND BY
8/20/09 09:58:25 COUNCIL.
8/20/09 09:58:28 RECORD YOUR VOTE.
8/20/09 09:58:35 MOTION
8/20/09 09:58:37 CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8/20/09 09:58:39 >> ITEM 85 I BELIEVE WE HAVE A
8/20/09 09:58:42 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE FOR THAT.
8/20/09 09:58:45 ITEM 85, ANYONE WISH TO ADDRESS
8/20/09 09:58:47 COUNCIL ON ITEM 85?
8/20/09 09:58:48 >> CLOSE.
8/20/09 09:58:50 >> ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
8/20/09 09:58:50 SAYING AYE.
8/20/09 09:58:50 >> AYE.
8/20/09 09:58:52 >> WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE
8/20/09 09:58:53 ORDINANCE.
8/20/09 09:58:54 >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
8/20/09 09:58:57 I VOTE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE FOR
8/20/09 09:59:00 ADOPTION ON SECOND READING,
8/20/09 09:59:00 THE
8/20/09 09:59:01 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
8/20/09 09:59:04 SECOND READING OF THE
8/20/09 09:59:06 CITY OF
8/20/09 09:59:06 TAMPA, FLORIDA, ADOPTING AND
8/20/09 09:59:09 ENACTING A NEW CHAPTER IN THE
8/20/09 09:59:11 CITY OF TAMPA CODE TO BE HERE
8/20/09 09:59:12 AFTER REFERENCED AND KNOWN AS
8/20/09 09:59:16 CHAPTER 28, SPECIAL
8/20/09 09:59:16 EVENTS
8/20/09 09:59:16 ESTABLISHING CRITERIA
8/20/09 09:59:18 PROCEDURES FOR SUBMIT AL REVIEW
8/20/09 09:59:19 OF APPROVAL FOR APPLICATION FOR
8/20/09 09:59:22 SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS ON THE
8/20/09 09:59:22 CITY PARKS AND SPECIAL EVENT ON
8/20/09 09:59:24 PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS AND
8/20/09 09:59:27 TEMPORARY CLOSINGS OF PUBLIC
8/20/09 09:59:29 RIGHT OF WAYS, IDENTIFYING AND
8/20/09 09:59:31 QUALIFYING THE ACTIVITY
8/20/09 09:59:32 ASSOCIATION WITHIN EXCEPT FROM
8/20/09 09:59:34 SPECIAL EVENTS PERMITSING
8/20/09 09:59:36 PROCESS, ESTABLISHING THE CITY
8/20/09 09:59:39 OF TAMPA SPECIAL
8/20/09 09:59:40 EVENT
8/20/09 09:59:40 WORKMANSHIP COMMITTEE WHICH
8/20/09 09:59:43 SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR REVIEW
8/20/09 09:59:44 AND APPROVAL OF, APPROVAL OR
8/20/09 09:59:46 DENIAL OF SPECIAL EVENTS
8/20/09 09:59:47 PERMITS, APPLICATION FOR CITY
8/20/09 09:59:50 COSPONSOR OF SPECIAL EVENTS
8/20/09 09:59:50 PURSUANT TO CRITERIA
8/20/09 09:59:51 ESTABLISHED HERE IN.
8/20/09 09:59:55 PROVIDING A PROCESS FOR
8/20/09 09:59:56 APPEAL
8/20/09 09:59:56 OF ADMINISTRATION,
8/20/09 09:59:57 DETERMINATION AND DENIAL OF A
8/20/09 10:00:00 SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT
8/20/09 10:00:02 PROVIDING
8/20/09 10:00:03 FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF FEES
8/20/09 10:00:05 BY CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION,
8/20/09 10:00:06 LEADING SPECIAL EVENT PROVISION
8/20/09 10:00:07 FROM CHAPTER 25 THE CITY OF
8/20/09 10:00:10 TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES
8/20/09 10:00:10 AMENDING AND UPDATING THE
8/20/09 10:00:13 PREFERENCE OF SPECIAL EVENTS
8/20/09 10:00:16 PROVISION AND
8/20/09 10:00:17 CHAPTER 27-145,
8/20/09 10:00:19 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
8/20/09 10:00:21 ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT WHERE
8/20/09 10:00:24 IN PROVIDING AN
8/20/09 10:00:27 EFFECTIVE DATE.
8/20/09 10:00:28 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 10:00:30 IF YOU COULD, I WAS OUT OF TOWN
8/20/09 10:00:33 ACTUALLY FOR THE
8/20/09 10:00:36 FIRST READING
8/20/09 10:00:36 ON THIS.
8/20/09 10:00:39 I MEAN IT LOOKS LIKE WE
8/20/09 10:00:40 HAVE
8/20/09 10:00:41 CHUCKED OUT 10 PAGES OF THE OLD
8/20/09 10:00:43 CODE AND THAT AND PUT IN 20
8/20/09 10:00:43 PAGES OF NEW CODE AND I'M SURE
8/20/09 10:00:46 YOU HAVE WORKED ON IT PROBABLY
8/20/09 10:00:48 THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
8/20/09 10:00:49 YOU AND I PROBABLY TALKED ABOUT
8/20/09 10:00:50 SOME OF THIS.
8/20/09 10:00:52 WHAT ARE THE BIG CHANGES HERE.
8/20/09 10:00:55 >> THE BIG CHANGES WITH 28 IS
8/20/09 10:00:56 REALLY OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS
8/20/09 10:00:58 WE PUTS UP PROCESSES INTO PLACE
8/20/09 10:00:59 AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE
8/20/09 10:01:02 CURRENTLY DOING IS THE WAY WE
8/20/09 10:01:04 HAVE NOW TAKEN IT OUT OF THE
8/20/09 10:01:06 TRANSPORTATION CODE, SET IT UP
8/20/09 10:01:08 AS A SEPARATE CODE AND NOW LINE
8/20/09 10:01:10 IT UP WITH 16.
8/20/09 10:01:12 THE ONLY MAJOR SIGNIFICANT
8/20/09 10:01:14 CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED
8/20/09 10:01:15 SINCE WE HAVE MET PROBABLY THE
8/20/09 10:01:17 LAST TWO OR THREE TIMES ON IT,
8/20/09 10:01:19 IS WE DID MOVE UP THE NUMBER OF
8/20/09 10:01:21 DAYS ON THE PERMITTING.
8/20/09 10:01:23 WE DID HAVE A 45 DAY, NOW IT'S
8/20/09 10:01:24 A 60-DAY PERMITTING SO THE
8/20/09 10:01:27 PLANNERS AND THE PROMOTERS AND
8/20/09 10:01:28 THE STAFF THAT ARE INVOLVED
8/20/09 10:01:31 HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO BE ABLE
8/20/09 10:01:32 TO LOOK AT CO--SPONSORSHIP
8/20/09 10:01:33 OPPORTUNITIES OR SERVICE THAT'S
8/20/09 10:01:36 ARE NEEDED FROM
8/20/09 10:01:38 THE CITY.
8/20/09 10:01:39 THOSE ARE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES.
8/20/09 10:01:41 AGAIN EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE
8/20/09 10:01:42 DOING WITH THE COSPONSORSHIP
8/20/09 10:01:45 COMMITTEE, EVERYTHING WE HAVE
8/20/09 10:01:46 BEEN OPERATING THE LAST TWO
8/20/09 10:01:49 YEARS, IT'S VERY CLEAR,
8/20/09 10:01:49 CUSTOMER FRIENDLY.
8/20/09 10:01:51 FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO
8/20/09 10:01:52 UNDERSTAND AND IT ALLIANCE WITH
8/20/09 10:01:54 ALL OF OUR PROCESSES AND
8/20/09 10:01:56 PROCEDURES AS WE'RE DOING IN
8/20/09 10:01:58 THE OPERATIONS AND SPECIAL
8/20/09 10:01:59 EVENTS.
8/20/09 10:02:00 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 10:02:01 >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
8/20/09 10:02:01 >> YES.
8/20/09 10:02:04 >> ANYONE FROM
8/20/09 10:02:04 THE PUBLIC WISH
8/20/09 10:02:07 TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, ANYONE
8/20/09 10:02:10 FROM
8/20/09 10:02:11 THE PUBLIC?
8/20/09 10:02:12 OKAY.
8/20/09 10:02:14 >> THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND.
8/20/09 10:02:15 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 10:02:16 >> THE SECOND.
8/20/09 10:02:17 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 10:02:17 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 10:02:19 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 10:02:22 RECORD YOUR VOTE.
8/20/09 10:02:28 >>
8/20/09 10:02:31 MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8/20/09 10:02:37 >> THE
8/20/09 10:02:39 FOLLOWING ITEMS THOSE
8/20/09 10:02:40 WHO SPEAK NOW HAVE TO BE SWORN
8/20/09 10:02:41 SO PLEASE STAND AND BE SWORN.
8/20/09 10:02:44 YOU'RE GOING TO
8/20/09 10:02:45 BE ADDRESSING
8/20/09 10:02:45 COUNCIL.
8/20/09 10:02:48 >> SO WOULD IT BE ITEMS 86, 27
8/20/09 10:02:49 AND 88?
8/20/09 10:02:50 >> YES.
8/20/09 10:02:53 >> OKAY ITEMS 86, 87 AND 88.
8/20/09 10:02:56 YOU'RE GOING TO BE TESTIFYING,
8/20/09 10:02:59 PLEASE BE SWORN.
8/20/09 10:03:08 >> MR. CHAIRMAN I BELIEVE
8/20/09 10:03:08 THERE
8/20/09 10:03:10 ARE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN
8/20/09 10:03:11 AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION
8/20/09 10:03:12 IN CITY COUNCIL'S OFFICE THAT
8/20/09 10:03:14 NEED TO BE RECEIVED AND FILED
8/20/09 10:03:16 INTO THE RECORD AT THIS TIME BY
8/20/09 10:03:16 MOTION.
8/20/09 10:03:17 >> SO MOVED.
8/20/09 10:03:20 >> ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
8/20/09 10:03:22 >> AYE.
8/20/09 10:03:24 >> ACCEPTED.
8/20/09 10:03:26 ITEM 86, ITEM 86 PGH
8/20/09 10:03:28 >> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL, ERIC
8/20/09 10:03:31 CONLY DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8/20/09 10:03:33 ITEMS 86 AND 88, CERTIFIED BY
8/20/09 10:03:33 THE ADMINISTRATOR, THEY HAVE
8/20/09 10:03:35 BEEN CERTIFIED AND DELIVERED TO
8/20/09 10:03:36 THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
8/20/09 10:03:38 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS ON
8/20/09 10:03:41 THE FIRST
8/20/09 10:03:41 ONE.
8/20/09 10:03:41 86.
8/20/09 10:03:44 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 10:03:47 >> YES,
8/20/09 10:03:53 WE
8/20/09 10:03:53 DO.
8/20/09 10:03:54 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 10:03:56 >> ITEM 86, DO YOU WISH TO
8/20/09 10:03:56 ADDRESS COUNCIL?
8/20/09 10:03:59 YOU MAY COME FORWARD AT THIS
8/20/09 10:04:02 TIME.
8/20/09 10:04:05 >> MY NAME IS
8/20/09 10:04:05 INGRID SUBMIT,
8/20/09 10:04:07 3605 NORTH MIAMI AVENUE AND YES
8/20/09 10:04:07 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
8/20/09 10:04:09 I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR
8/20/09 10:04:11 YOUR PATIENCE AND THE
8/20/09 10:04:12 PETITIONER FOR THEIR PATIENCE
8/20/09 10:04:13 WHILE WE WERE GETTING THE
8/20/09 10:04:16 WORDING WORKED OUT REGARDING
8/20/09 10:04:18 THE SINGLE SALE OF BEER AND
8/20/09 10:04:20 WINE SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
8/20/09 10:04:22 PATIENCE AND ASSIST AND WITH
8/20/09 10:04:23 THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THIS.
8/20/09 10:04:24 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 10:04:28 >> OKAY PGH
8/20/09 10:04:28 >> ANYONE ELSE?
8/20/09 10:04:28 MOTION TO CLOSE.
8/20/09 10:04:30 >> SO MOVED.
8/20/09 10:04:33 >> ALL IN FAVOR
8/20/09 10:04:33 AYE.
8/20/09 10:04:33 >> AYE.
8/20/09 10:04:34 >> COUNCILWOMAN MILLER.
8/20/09 10:04:34 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 10:04:37 I MOVE TO ADOPT THE FOLLOWING
8/20/09 10:04:38 ON SECOND READING.
8/20/09 10:04:39 IN ORDER TO APPROVE A SPECIAL
8/20/09 10:04:42 USE PERMIT
8/20/09 10:04:44 FOR ALCOHOLIC
8/20/09 10:04:45 BEVERAGES, SALES, AND BEEF
8/20/09 10:04:47 SLANGS WITH ALCOHOL MORE THAN 1
8/20/09 10:04:49 PERCENT BY WEIGHT OR NOT MORE
8/20/09 10:04:50 THAN 14 PERCENT BY WEIGHT OR
8/20/09 10:04:53 WINE REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC
8/20/09 10:04:54 CONTENT BEER AND WINE AND
8/20/09 10:04:57 SEALED CONTAINERS FOR
8/20/09 10:04:59 CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY
8/20/09 10:05:02 AND FROM A CERTAIN TRACT OF
8/20/09 10:05:03 LAND AT 7706, 7708 NORTH
8/20/09 10:05:05 FLORIDA AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
8/20/09 10:05:07 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
8/20/09 10:05:10 SECTION 2 HERE
8/20/09 10:05:10 OF, APPROVING
8/20/09 10:05:13 AND SET FORTH HERE IN REPEAL OF
8/20/09 10:05:14 ALL ORDINANCE AND CONFLICT ON
8/20/09 10:05:15 THE EFFECTIVE DATE.
8/20/09 10:05:15 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 10:05:17 >> I JUST WANTED TO ASK LEGAL
8/20/09 10:05:18 TO HOLD ONTO THE WORDING THAT
8/20/09 10:05:19 WE WORKED OUT BECAUSE WE WANT
8/20/09 10:05:21 TO BE ABLE TO USE IT IN THE
8/20/09 10:05:24 FUTURE AND NOT HAVE TO
8/20/09 10:05:25 RECREATE
8/20/09 10:05:26 IT EACH TIME.
8/20/09 10:05:28 >> I HOPE THAT HOLDS TRUE FOR
8/20/09 10:05:29 EVERYONE, NOT ONLY FOR THIS
8/20/09 10:05:30 CASE.
8/20/09 10:05:33 I'M GOING TO REMEMBER IT.
8/20/09 10:05:36 >>
8/20/09 10:05:39 MOVE AND SECOND.
8/20/09 10:05:42 RECORD YOUR VOTE PLEASE.
8/20/09 10:05:51 >> MOTION
8/20/09 10:05:51 CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8/20/09 10:05:54 >> ITEM 87, ANYONE WISH TO
8/20/09 10:05:56 ADDRESS COUNCIL?
8/20/09 10:05:58 ITEM 87.
8/20/09 10:06:01 >> GOOD MORNING,
8/20/09 10:06:02 COUNCIL.
8/20/09 10:06:03 I'M CONRAD SOLICE REPRESENTING
8/20/09 10:06:04 THE SCHOOL BOARD ON THE PROJECT
8/20/09 10:06:06 AND IT'S SIMPLY TO PUT A CANOPY
8/20/09 10:06:07 OVER THE SIDEWALK OFF THE
8/20/09 10:06:10 RUSSELL STREET WHERE THE
8/20/09 10:06:11 BUS
8/20/09 10:06:12 DROPS OFF ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
8/20/09 10:06:12 CHILDREN TO ANSWER ANY
8/20/09 10:06:14 QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
8/20/09 10:06:14 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 10:06:17 >> ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC.
8/20/09 10:06:17 >> SECOND?
8/20/09 10:06:18 >> ALL IN FAVOR?
8/20/09 10:06:21 SIGNIFY BY
8/20/09 10:06:24 SAYING AYE.
8/20/09 10:06:24 >> AYE.
8/20/09 10:06:25 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, WE --PEOPLE
8/20/09 10:06:27 SPEND A LOT OF TIME COMING DOWN
8/20/09 10:06:29 TO US FOR THIS PERMISSION AND I
8/20/09 10:06:31 JUST WONDER WHEN WE REVIEW THE
8/20/09 10:06:32 ORDINANCES IN THE FUTURE WE
8/20/09 10:06:35 MIGHT CONSIDER MAKING THIS AN
8/20/09 10:06:35 ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL.
8/20/09 10:06:38 IN MY YEARS ON COUNCIL WE HAVE
8/20/09 10:06:40 NEVER NOT APPROVED AN ONING.
8/20/09 10:06:42 WE LIKE ONINGS, IT'S REALLY HOT
8/20/09 10:06:42 HERE.
8/20/09 10:06:44 ONINGS ARE A GOOD THING AND
8/20/09 10:06:47 THIS GENTLEMAN WHO IS WITH
8/20/09 10:06:47 THE
8/20/09 10:06:48 SCHOOL DISTRICT, GOD KNOWS
8/20/09 10:06:51 THEY'RE UNDER EVEN
8/20/09 10:06:52 TOUGHER
8/20/09 10:06:52 FUNDING RESTRICTIONS THAN WE
8/20/09 10:06:56 ARE HAS SPENT ALL
8/20/09 10:06:56 MORNING
8/20/09 10:06:56 WAITING.
8/20/09 10:06:57 >> WE TRIED TO GO THAT ROUTE
8/20/09 10:06:58 AND WE ASKED THAT QUESTION AND
8/20/09 10:06:59 THEY LOOKED INTO IT AND SAID
8/20/09 10:07:01 THEY COULDN'T BUT IT WOULDN'T
8/20/09 10:07:04 BE, WE HAVE A NEW LEGAL TEAM,
8/20/09 10:07:06 MAYBE WE CAN ASK AGAIN.
8/20/09 10:07:07 >> IT SEEMS LIKE --
8/20/09 10:07:10 >> CAN WE BRING IT UP
8/20/09 10:07:11 UNDER NEW
8/20/09 10:07:12 BUSINESS.
8/20/09 10:07:13 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 10:07:13 >> YES.
8/20/09 10:07:15 >> I'D LIKE TO MOVE ORDINANCE
8/20/09 10:07:17 PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING
8/20/09 10:07:19 AND ADOPTION.
8/20/09 10:07:19 ORDINANCE AUTHORITYING THE
8/20/09 10:07:21 INSTALLATION AND MAINTENANCE OF
8/20/09 10:07:22 THOSE ONING OVER HANGS BY
8/20/09 10:07:23 HILLSBORO COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD
8/20/09 10:07:25 OVER PORTIONS OF RIGHT AWAY
8/20/09 10:07:27 KNOWN AS RUSSELL STREET MORE
8/20/09 10:07:29 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HERE IN,
8/20/09 10:07:31 SUBJECT TO CERTAIN TERMS AND
8/20/09 10:07:32 CONDITIONS --TERMS COVENANTS
8/20/09 10:07:35 CONDITIONS AND AGREEMENT MORE
8/20/09 10:07:36 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
8/20/09 10:07:37 PROVIDING THE EFFECTIVE DATE.
8/20/09 10:07:40 >> MOVE TO
8/20/09 10:07:40 SECOND.
8/20/09 10:07:44 RECORD YOUR VOTE.
8/20/09 10:07:47 >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
8/20/09 10:07:49 PGH
8/20/09 10:07:50 >> ITEM 88, ITEM 82.
8/20/09 10:07:53 ANYONE WHO WISH TO ADDRESS
8/20/09 10:07:56 COUNCIL ON ITEM
8/20/09 10:07:58 88?
8/20/09 10:08:00 >> WHAT IS THIS?
8/20/09 10:08:02 >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS
8/20/09 10:08:04 RUSSELL WITH PLANNING
8/20/09 10:08:07 INCORPORATED, 3816 WEST
8/20/09 10:08:08 LIONEL
8/20/09 10:08:09 AVENUE, TAMPA 33618 --
8/20/09 10:08:13 >> I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
8/20/09 10:08:16 >> THIS IS HERE FOR FIRST
8/20/09 10:08:17 READING.
8/20/09 10:08:19 >> I'M SORRY?
8/20/09 10:08:20 >> WALINGS WAS?
8/20/09 10:08:20 >> YES.
8/20/09 10:08:20 >> GOT IT.
8/20/09 10:08:23 >> I HAD
8/20/09 10:08:25 A QUESTION, WHAT TYPE
8/20/09 10:08:27 OF RESTAURANT IS IT?
8/20/09 10:08:30 IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A
8/20/09 10:08:31 JAPANESE
8/20/09 10:08:31 RESTAURANT.
8/20/09 10:08:31 >> STEAK HOUSE.
8/20/09 10:08:32 >> DO WE LIMIT THE HOURS OF
8/20/09 10:08:35 OPERATION AT ALL IN THE
8/20/09 10:08:36 ORDINANCE?
8/20/09 10:08:39 >> THAT'S A GOOD
8/20/09 10:08:39 QUESTION.
8/20/09 10:08:41 >> NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO.
8/20/09 10:08:42 >> BECAUSE COUNCIL AS YOU
8/20/09 10:08:45 RECALL THE CLOSER
8/20/09 10:08:47 WE GET TO,
8/20/09 10:08:49 THE FURTHER SOUTH WE GET ON
8/20/09 10:08:52 HOWARD, THE MORE
8/20/09 10:08:54 SENSITIVE
8/20/09 10:08:55 THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE.
8/20/09 10:08:58 I'M GLAD THIS IS AN R, CORRECT,
8/20/09 10:08:59 SO I'M GLAD IT'S ASSOCIATED
8/20/09 10:09:00 WITH A RESTAURANT BUT EVEN SO I
8/20/09 10:09:02 THINK WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO BE
8/20/09 10:09:04 CONSIST WENT WITH PUTTING
8/20/09 10:09:07 REASONABLE LIMITATIONS ON HOURS
8/20/09 10:09:10 OF OPERATION.
8/20/09 10:09:12 >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'LL
8/20/09 10:09:15 LIMIT THEIR HOURS FROM 10:00
8/20/09 10:09:15 A.M.
8/20/09 10:09:16 TO 11:00 P.M.
8/20/09 10:09:19 >> 11:00 P.M., SEVEN DAYS
8/20/09 10:09:21 A
8/20/09 10:09:22 WEEK.
8/20/09 10:09:22 >> YES.
8/20/09 10:09:25 >> WHEN ARE YOU
8/20/09 10:09:27 SUPPOSED TO
8/20/09 10:09:27 OPEN?
8/20/09 10:09:29 >> I COULD JUST FINISH --
8/20/09 10:09:30 >> I KNOW IT'S FROM SECOND
8/20/09 10:09:32 READING BUT I WASN'T HERE FIRST
8/20/09 10:09:32 READING.
8/20/09 10:09:35 >> GO
8/20/09 10:09:38 AHEAD, GO
8/20/09 10:09:39 AHEAD.
8/20/09 10:09:42 >> SEPTEMBER 1st IS THE
8/20/09 10:09:45 PROPOSED
8/20/09 10:09:45 OPENING DATE.
8/20/09 10:09:48 >> WHEN
8/20/09 10:09:51 IS OUR NEXT --
8/20/09 10:09:53 >> COULD WE DO IT AND BRING IT
8/20/09 10:09:54 BACK LATER TODAY?
8/20/09 10:09:57 >> WE COULD DO FIRST READING
8/20/09 10:10:00 RIGHT NOW AND
8/20/09 10:10:01 HAVE SECOND
8/20/09 10:10:02 READING --FIRST READING
8/20/09 10:10:02 ALREADY.
8/20/09 10:10:05 >> I KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING IN MY
8/20/09 10:10:06 OPINION, MAYBE COUNCIL DOESN'T
8/20/09 10:10:07 AGREE, I THINK WE HAVE BEEN
8/20/09 10:10:09 TRYING TO BE PRETTY CONSIST
8/20/09 10:10:10 WENT ON SOUTH HOWARD ESPECIALLY
8/20/09 10:10:12 THE FURTHER SOUTH WE GET WHEN
8/20/09 10:10:14 WE'RE APPROVING THE ZONINGS WE
8/20/09 10:10:17 AT LEAST INCLUDE SOME
8/20/09 10:10:19 HOURS OF
8/20/09 10:10:20 ON RACIAL.
8/20/09 10:10:21 JUST FOR CONSISTENCY, OTHERWISE
8/20/09 10:10:24 PEOPLE WILL ACCUSE US OF
8/20/09 10:10:27 BEING
8/20/09 10:10:27 ARBITRARY.
8/20/09 10:10:29 AND SO I CAN'T SUPPORT IT
8/20/09 10:10:31 UNLESS YOU KNOW WE AT LEAST PUT
8/20/09 10:10:33 AMID NIGHT LIMITATION ON IT.
8/20/09 10:10:35 I THINK WE COULD DO IT IF WE
8/20/09 10:10:37 JUST CAME BACK IN AN HOUR OR
8/20/09 10:10:39 TWO AND PUT IT, PUT AMID NIGHT
8/20/09 10:10:41 LIMITATION ON IT AND THEN COME
8/20/09 10:10:44 BACK FOR SECOND
8/20/09 10:10:45 READING ON
8/20/09 10:10:45 SEPTEMBER 3rd.
8/20/09 10:10:48 >> I'D LIKE TO
8/20/09 10:10:49 REMIND THE
8/20/09 10:10:52 COUNCIL THESE FOLLOW THE SAME
8/20/09 10:10:53 SPECIAL USE PROCESS.
8/20/09 10:10:54 WE KNOW LONGER PUT THE
8/20/09 10:10:55 CONDITIONS IN THE ORDINANCE BUT
8/20/09 10:10:57 A SITE PLAN AND I HAVE BEEN
8/20/09 10:10:58 ADVISED IT TAKES TWO WEEKS TO
8/20/09 10:11:00 HAVE THIS SITE PLAN CHANGED AND
8/20/09 10:11:01 CERTIFIED SO IT WOULD NEED TWO
8/20/09 10:11:04 WEEKS I HAVE BEEN ADVISED.
8/20/09 10:11:06 >> THEN WHY DIDN'T STAFF REMIND
8/20/09 10:11:07 COUNCIL THAT HAS BEEN OUR TREND
8/20/09 10:11:09 IS TO INCLUDE HOURS OF
8/20/09 10:11:12 OPERATION, THEN WE WOULDN'T BE
8/20/09 10:11:15 HERE
8/20/09 10:11:20 THIS MORNING?
8/20/09 10:11:23 >> WITH ALL DUE
8/20/09 10:11:24 RESPECT, THE
8/20/09 10:11:26 FIRST MOTION PASSED --WHEN DID
8/20/09 10:11:27 THE FIRST MOTION PASS.
8/20/09 10:11:30 >> 50 I'M SURE.
8/20/09 10:11:32 >> AND I BELIEVE --IT'S TOO
8/20/09 10:11:33 BAD YOU TWO WEREN'T HERE AND
8/20/09 10:11:35 YOU KNOW IF YOU WERE HERE YOU
8/20/09 10:11:36 WOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS.
8/20/09 10:11:38 I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DELAY
8/20/09 10:11:38 IT.
8/20/09 10:11:39 THESE PEOPLE ARE ON A SCHEDULE.
8/20/09 10:11:41 THEY'RE SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE
8/20/09 10:11:44 AND IF WE START MOVING THEM
8/20/09 10:11:46 BACK IT'S GOING TO HURT THEM.
8/20/09 10:11:47 WE NEED, AND THE SHOPPING
8/20/09 10:11:49 CENTER IS A BUSINESS DISTRICT.
8/20/09 10:11:51 I DON'T KNOW HOW CLOSE THE
8/20/09 10:11:53 HOMES ARE IN THERE AND THERE
8/20/09 10:11:55 WAS NOBODY HERE EVIDENTLY IT
8/20/09 10:11:56 WAS POSTED THAT THERE WAS GOING
8/20/09 10:11:58 TO BE A ZONING THERE AND I
8/20/09 10:12:01 THINK WE SHOULD VOTE
8/20/09 10:12:04 ON
8/20/09 10:12:05 IT
8/20/09 10:12:05 TODAY.
8/20/09 10:12:06 >> COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8/20/09 10:12:09 >> MY MIND IS THINKING OF WHAT
8/20/09 10:12:11 HAPPENED ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
8/20/09 10:12:14 THIS COUNCIL ON A 4-3 VOTE, I
8/20/09 10:12:17 REMEMBER
8/20/09 10:12:20 THE VOTE, 4-3, CHANGED
8/20/09 10:12:21 THAT RESTAURANTS COULD OPEN
8/20/09 10:12:23 UNTIL 3:00 O'CLOCK IN THE
8/20/09 10:12:24 MORNING AND SELL ALCOHOL UNTIL
8/20/09 10:12:26 3:00 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
8/20/09 10:12:28 JUST BECAUSE STATE LAW GAVE
8/20/09 10:12:30 THEM THAT RIGHT.
8/20/09 10:12:32 IT WAS DEBATE AND I WAS ON THE
8/20/09 10:12:34 LOOSING SIDE, IN FACT SOMETIMES
8/20/09 10:12:36 EVEN WHEN I WIN I THINK I'M ON
8/20/09 10:12:38 THE LOOSING SIDE.
8/20/09 10:12:40 I WAS ON THE 3-SIDE SO WHAT I'M
8/20/09 10:12:43 SAYING IS, WE CHANGED THAT
8/20/09 10:12:44 LAW
8/20/09 10:12:46 AND NOW WE COME BACK AND WE WAN
8/20/09 10:12:49 TO GO AT THE SAME LAW THAT
8/20/09 10:12:51 WE
8/20/09 10:12:52 CHANGED AND FOR WHATEVER REASON
8/20/09 10:12:54 CHANGE IT BACK TO WHAT IT WAS
8/20/09 10:12:56 BEFORE WE CHANGED THE LAW.
8/20/09 10:12:58 SO YOU'RE EITHER GOING TO STICK
8/20/09 10:13:01 WITH WHAT YOU HAD, WHICH WAS
8/20/09 10:13:02 WHEN A PETITIONER CAME UP AND
8/20/09 10:13:04 I'M NOT SPEAKING OF THIS CASE,
8/20/09 10:13:07 WE WOULD TRY TO IN A
8/20/09 10:13:08 VERY NICE
8/20/09 10:13:08 LEGAL MANNER, FIND OUT HOW
8/20/09 10:13:10 CLOSE THEY WERE TO A
8/20/09 10:13:12 NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT'S WHY
8/20/09 10:13:13 DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS HAD
8/20/09 10:13:15 DIFFERENT HOURS OF OPERATION
8/20/09 10:13:17 BECAUSE THE CLOSEST TO THE
8/20/09 10:13:19 NEIGHBORHOOD AND I UNDERSTAND
8/20/09 10:13:21 AND APPRECIATE WHAT MR.
8/20/09 10:13:23 DINGFELDER IS SAYING AND IF I
8/20/09 10:13:25 REMEMBER RIGHT HE WAS ALSO ONE
8/20/09 10:13:27 OF THE LOSING THREE SO WHAT I'M
8/20/09 10:13:30 SAYING WE CHANGED IT AND AT
8/20/09 10:13:32 THAT TIME I SAID WE MADE 2500
8/20/09 10:13:33 ADDITIONAL NEW BARS IN THE CITY
8/20/09 10:13:36 OF TAMPA BECAUSE I FIGURE
8/20/09 10:13:38 THAT'S HOW MANY HOURS WE HAD.
8/20/09 10:13:41 I'M NOT BLAMING ANYONE BUT I'M
8/20/09 10:13:44 SAYING IF WE CHANGE THE LAW,
8/20/09 10:13:46 WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING WHAT
8/20/09 10:13:46 HOURS OF OPERATION THEY HAVE
8/20/09 10:13:49 WHEN THE STATE ALLOWS THEM TO
8/20/09 10:13:50 STAY OPEN.
8/20/09 10:13:52 THE CITY NOW ALLOWS THEM TO
8/20/09 10:13:55 STAY OPEN AND AM I
8/20/09 10:13:56 FOR IT, NO,
8/20/09 10:14:00 BUT I LOST, BUT I REMEMBER
8/20/09 10:14:01 THAT
8/20/09 10:14:02 CONVERSATION VERY, VERY
8/20/09 10:14:02 DISTINCTLY.
8/20/09 10:14:05 IN FACT
8/20/09 10:14:08 I WAS
8/20/09 10:14:11 SITTING WHERE MR.
8/20/09 10:14:12 CAETANO IS SITTING, HE
8/20/09 10:14:13 REMEMBERED THAT.
8/20/09 10:14:14 >> I REMEMBERED, I WAS WATCHING
8/20/09 10:14:14 YOU.
8/20/09 10:14:15 >> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
8/20/09 10:14:17 WE CHANGED THE LAW AND NOW
8/20/09 10:14:19 WE'RE ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS
8/20/09 10:14:22 LIKE IF WE HADN'T CHANGED
8/20/09 10:14:23 THE
8/20/09 10:14:23 LAW.
8/20/09 10:14:25 SO I'M TOTALLY IN THIS ARRAY ON
8/20/09 10:14:27 HOW WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE THIS
8/20/09 10:14:30 --TOTALLY IN DISARRAY ON HOW
8/20/09 10:14:33 TO HANDLE THIS.
8/20/09 10:14:33 >> COUNCILWOMAN LINDA SAUL-
8/20/09 10:14:34 SENA.
8/20/09 10:14:35 >> I WAS NOT HERE AND FRANKLY I
8/20/09 10:14:37 KNOW THIS WILL BE A LOVELY
8/20/09 10:14:38 RESTAURANT AND I'M COMFORT ABLE
8/20/09 10:14:41 WITH THE FACT THAT IT
8/20/09 10:14:42 IS A
8/20/09 10:14:42 RESTAURANT.
8/20/09 10:14:43 THOSE DISCOUNTS WILL HAVE
8/20/09 10:14:45 CONSISTENTLY TRIED TO PROTECT
8/20/09 10:14:48 THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE VERY
8/20/09 10:14:49 CLOSE BY --WE HAVE TRIED TO
8/20/09 10:14:50 PRO TECH THE NEIGHBORHOODS
8/20/09 10:14:52 CLOSE BY THE RESTAURANTS AND
8/20/09 10:14:54 BARS ON HOWARD AND I WISH THAT
8/20/09 10:14:56 THE STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED, HAD
8/20/09 10:14:57 REMINDED US BUT THE TRUTH IS
8/20/09 10:15:00 THAT WE HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY
8/20/09 10:15:02 TRYING TO CREATE HOURS THAT ARE
8/20/09 10:15:05 PROTECTIVE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
8/20/09 10:15:08 AND IN THIS PARTICULAR SO-
8/20/09 10:15:08 HO
8/20/09 10:15:08 AREA.
8/20/09 10:15:09 >> FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT I
8/20/09 10:15:12 JUST FEEL I NEED TO
8/20/09 10:15:13 TALK ABOUT
8/20/09 10:15:14 THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE ABOUT
8/20/09 10:15:16 STAFF'S ROLE VERSUS YOUR ROLE.
8/20/09 10:15:19 STAFF'S ROLE IS TO ADVICE
8/20/09 10:15:22 APPLICANTS WHAT CODE SAID
8/20/09 10:15:23 OFFICIALLY, IT'S A SPECIAL USE
8/20/09 10:15:24 PERMIT, IT'S NOT A ZONING, WHAT
8/20/09 10:15:27 THE CODE PROVIDES AND WHAT THEY
8/20/09 10:15:28 NEED TO DO TO COMPLY.
8/20/09 10:15:29 THE PURPOSE IS TO ALLOW
8/20/09 10:15:31 TESTIMONY TO COME IN THE RECORD
8/20/09 10:15:32 AND FOR YOU TO HAVE THAT
8/20/09 10:15:33 OPPORTUNITY GIVEN THE SPECIFICS
8/20/09 10:15:36 OF ANY GIVEN BUSINESS TO IMPOSE
8/20/09 10:15:40 OR REQUEST THAT CONDITIONS ARE
8/20/09 10:15:40 IMPOSED.
8/20/09 10:15:43 I MEAN OTHER THAN STAFF SAYING,
8/20/09 10:15:46 OTHER CASE THIS IS OCCURRED,
8/20/09 10:15:47 STAFF CANNOT PLACE ANYBODY IN
8/20/09 10:15:49 THE POSITION OF HAVING THAT
8/20/09 10:15:49 IMPOSED UPON THEM WITHOUT
8/20/09 10:15:51 COMING TO YOU AND I THINK IT
8/20/09 10:15:54 WOULDN'T EVEN BE
8/20/09 10:15:55 APPROPRIATE
8/20/09 10:15:56 FOR STAFF TO ADVICE ANYBODY
8/20/09 10:15:59 RELATING TO HOURS OF OPERATION.
8/20/09 10:16:00 THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS
8/20/09 10:16:01 BEEN UNDER COUNCIL'S CONTROL.
8/20/09 10:16:03 >> WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO
8/20/09 10:16:04 ADVICE THE PETITIONERS, WE'RE
8/20/09 10:16:06 ASKING YOU TO REMIND COUNCIL OF
8/20/09 10:16:08 OUR PATTERNS OF APPROVAL.
8/20/09 10:16:09 AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE
8/20/09 10:16:10 SAYING, BUT THE QUESTION I HAVE
8/20/09 10:16:13 FOR YOU RIGHT NOW IS, IS THERE
8/20/09 10:16:16 ANYWAY TO ACCOMPLISH THIS
8/20/09 10:16:17 IN A
8/20/09 10:16:17 SHORTER TIME FRAME.
8/20/09 10:16:19 >> THERE ISN'T.
8/20/09 10:16:20 THERE IS NOT.
8/20/09 10:16:22 >> OUR CODE PROVIDES JUST LIKE
8/20/09 10:16:24 THE PROCESS, YOU CAN PROCESS TO
8/20/09 10:16:24 FIRST READING.
8/20/09 10:16:26 THERE HAS TO BE TWO WEEKS IN
8/20/09 10:16:28 BETWEEN SO YOU CAN HAVE SECOND
8/20/09 10:16:28 READING.
8/20/09 10:16:29 YOU NEED TO NOTICE IT AS A
8/20/09 10:16:32 SECOND READING WHICH IS PART OF
8/20/09 10:16:34 THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE TO GO BACK
8/20/09 10:16:35 THROUGH THE PROCESS.
8/20/09 10:16:37 THAT'S UNFORTUNATELY HOW THE
8/20/09 10:16:38 PROCESS WORKS AS YOU CAN HAVE
8/20/09 10:16:41 FIRST AND SECOND
8/20/09 10:16:41 READING.
8/20/09 10:16:42 THAT'S A STATUTORY PROVISION
8/20/09 10:16:43 BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO RENOTICE AT
8/20/09 10:16:45 SECOND READING WHICH WOULD THEN
8/20/09 10:16:48 BE REQUIRED TO HAVE
8/20/09 10:16:48 NOTIFICATION IN THE NEWSPAPER
8/20/09 10:16:49 --
8/20/09 10:16:51 >> EVEN THOUGH IT'S MORE
8/20/09 10:16:51 RESTRICTIVE.
8/20/09 10:16:53 >> YES BECAUSE OF THE WAY OUR
8/20/09 10:16:56 PROCESS WORKS, BECAUSE YOU HAVE
8/20/09 10:16:57 AN ORDINANCE THAT HAS TO BE
8/20/09 10:16:58 NOTICED BEFORE THE STATUTE AND
8/20/09 10:16:59 BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE PROCESS
8/20/09 10:17:01 IS WRITTEN IN YOUR CODE.
8/20/09 10:17:02 THERE IS NO OPPORTUNITY TO DO
8/20/09 10:17:05 IT WITHOUT GOING THROUGH
8/20/09 10:17:06 THAT
8/20/09 10:17:07 PROCESS.
8/20/09 10:17:09 SO, WHAT YOU CAN DO, YOU CAN
8/20/09 10:17:11 REVERT IT TO FIRST READING AND
8/20/09 10:17:14 GO AHEAD AND ASK THAT THE, IF
8/20/09 10:17:15 THE PETITIONER IS ACCESSIBLE
8/20/09 10:17:16 YOU CAN HAVE IT AS A CONDITION
8/20/09 10:17:18 ON THE SITE PLAN THEN COME BACK
8/20/09 10:17:21 IN TWO WEEKS ON SEPARATE --ON
8/20/09 10:17:22 SECOND READING.
8/20/09 10:17:23 THAT'S THE LEGAL WAY TO PROCESS
8/20/09 10:17:23 IT.
8/20/09 10:17:25 >> I REMEMBER US TALKING ABOUT
8/20/09 10:17:28 THIS ITEM WHEN IT CAME TO
8/20/09 10:17:30 US
8/20/09 10:17:33 TWO
8/20/09 10:17:36 WEEKS AGO.
8/20/09 10:17:36 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 10:17:39 >> WELL THANK YOU
8/20/09 10:17:40 FOR THE
8/20/09 10:17:40 DISCUSSION.
8/20/09 10:17:43 MR. CHAIRMAN I WAS OUT OF
8/20/09 10:17:43 TOWN
8/20/09 10:17:43 AT THIS.
8/20/09 10:17:44 YOU REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY
8/20/09 10:17:47 COUNCIL TALKING ABOUT HOURS
8/20/09 10:17:50 OF
8/20/09 10:17:52 OPERATION OR WHAT --
8/20/09 10:17:54 >> THERE WAS QUESTIONS ASKED
8/20/09 10:17:57 ABOUT THE PARTICULAR
8/20/09 10:17:58 --
8/20/09 10:17:59 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 10:17:59 >> YES, SIR.
8/20/09 10:18:02 >> IF I MAY AND I'LL REVERSE MY
8/20/09 10:18:04 COMMENT AFTER.
8/20/09 10:18:06 >> CERTAINLY.
8/20/09 10:18:06 >> CERTAINLY.
8/20/09 10:18:08 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER I
8/20/09 10:18:10 UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN AND THE
8/20/09 10:18:12 HOURS OF OPERATION QUESTION WAS
8/20/09 10:18:13 RAISED AT THE PREVIOUS HEARING.
8/20/09 10:18:14 AT THAT TIME THEY SAID IT WOULD
8/20/09 10:18:17 BE MIDNIGHT OR EARLIER.
8/20/09 10:18:18 THERE WAS NO REQUEST TO MAKE
8/20/09 10:18:20 THAT A CONDITION OF THIS PLAN.
8/20/09 10:18:22 WE WOULD HAVE HAPPILY INCLUDE
8/20/09 10:18:24 IT ON THE PLAN.
8/20/09 10:18:27 HOURS OF OPERATION
8/20/09 10:18:27 ARE NOT A
8/20/09 10:18:31 CRITERIA FOR SPECIAL USE
8/20/09 10:18:31 PERMIT
8/20/09 10:18:34 UNDER THE CODE AT THIS TIME.
8/20/09 10:18:37 OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW IT
8/20/09 10:18:37 WAS
8/20/09 10:18:38 DISCUSSED, IT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE
8/20/09 10:18:39 AN ISSUE AT THE PREVIOUS
8/20/09 10:18:39 HEARING.
8/20/09 10:18:42 THIS IS NOT A BAR, IT WILL
8/20/09 10:18:45 BE A
8/20/09 10:18:45 RESTAURANT.
8/20/09 10:18:46 THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO AN 11:00
8/20/09 10:18:47 P.M.
8/20/09 10:18:49 CLOSING TIME SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
8/20/09 10:18:50 THERE'S ALL COMMERCIAL FACING
8/20/09 10:18:52 THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY AND
8/20/09 10:18:55 SURROUNDING IT SO THERE IS YOU
8/20/09 10:18:55 KNOW --
8/20/09 10:18:58 >> I'M FAMILIAR WITH
8/20/09 10:18:59 THE
8/20/09 10:19:02 LOCATION AND I UNDERSTAND AGAIN
8/20/09 10:19:03 YOUR CONCERN.
8/20/09 10:19:05 A 2-WEEK DELAY WOULD BE
8/20/09 10:19:06 DETRIMENTAL TO THEIR
8/20/09 10:19:09 RESTAURANT, THEY'RE TRYING
8/20/09 10:19:10 TO
8/20/09 10:19:10 OPEN.
8/20/09 10:19:12 ON SEPTEMBER 1st OBVIOUSLY THEY
8/20/09 10:19:15 NEED TO TAKE THE APPROVAL HERE
8/20/09 10:19:18 AND GO THROUGH THE STATE
8/20/09 10:19:19 LICENSING PROCESS BUT THEY
8/20/09 10:19:21 CAN'T DO THAT UNTIL CITY
8/20/09 10:19:23 COUNCIL APPROVES IT AND WE GET
8/20/09 10:19:25 THE APPROVED RESOLUTION OR
8/20/09 10:19:28 ORDINANCE RATHER SO A 2-WEEK
8/20/09 10:19:31 DELAY HERE TRANSLATES TO A
8/20/09 10:19:31 2-
8/20/09 10:19:32 WEEK DELAY FOR THE RESTAURANT.
8/20/09 10:19:35 THEY WILL OPEN AND NOT BE ABLE
8/20/09 10:19:37 TO SELL BEER AND WINE AT THE
8/20/09 10:19:37 TIME.
8/20/09 10:19:39 I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO STATE THIS
8/20/09 10:19:40 IS FOR BEER AND WINE, THIS IS
8/20/09 10:19:43 NOT A FULL
8/20/09 10:19:43 LIQUOR LICENSE.
8/20/09 10:19:45 THAT BEING SAID THOUGH WE WOULD
8/20/09 10:19:48 LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD AT THIS
8/20/09 10:19:51 TIME IF COUNCIL FEELS
8/20/09 10:19:52 IT'S
8/20/09 10:19:52 APPROPRIATE.
8/20/09 10:19:55 >> OKAY,
8/20/09 10:19:58 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 10:19:59 >> COUNCILMAN?
8/20/09 10:20:00 >> I WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT
8/20/09 10:20:01 IT.
8/20/09 10:20:03 I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE'RE
8/20/09 10:20:04 CONSIST WENT AND THAT WE
8/20/09 10:20:07 CONSISTENTLY SEND A MESSAGE TO
8/20/09 10:20:10 FOLKS WHO WAN TO OPEN
8/20/09 10:20:11 ESPECIALLY THE FURTHER YOU GET
8/20/09 10:20:14 SOUTH ON HOWARD BECAUSE IT IS
8/20/09 10:20:14 A
8/20/09 10:20:16 MATTER AS MISS LINDA SAUL-SENA
8/20/09 10:20:17 SAID OF NEIGHBORHOOD PROTECTION
8/20/09 10:20:20 AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT
8/20/09 10:20:21 TO
8/20/09 10:20:23 THESE FOLKS, YOU KNOW,
8/20/09 10:20:25 APOLOGIES, I CAN'T SUPPORT IT.
8/20/09 10:20:26 OTHERWISE I'M SURE IT'S GOING
8/20/09 10:20:27 TO BE A GREAT RESTAURANT AND
8/20/09 10:20:29 I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO BE
8/20/09 10:20:31 GOOD NEIGHBORS, ETC., ETC., BUT
8/20/09 10:20:33 WE ALL KNOW THAT WHAT WE DO
8/20/09 10:20:35 HERE TODAY LASTS FOREVER.
8/20/09 10:20:38 SO IF WE'RE TALK BEING A
8/20/09 10:20:38 2-WEEK
8/20/09 10:20:39 DELAY VERSUS APPROVING
8/20/09 10:20:41 SOMETHING THAT LASTS FOREVER,
8/20/09 10:20:43 I'D ERR ON THE LONG TERM SIDE
8/20/09 10:20:46 PGH
8/20/09 10:20:48 >> COUNCILMAN?
8/20/09 10:20:49 CAETANO.
8/20/09 10:20:50 >> MR. ACCORDING FELTER YOU
8/20/09 10:20:51 SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE.
8/20/09 10:20:54 >> I WAS OUT OF TOWN --
8/20/09 10:20:55 >> MR. DINFELDER YOU SHOULD
8/20/09 10:20:55 HAVE BEEN HERE.
8/20/09 10:20:57 >> I WAS OUT OF TOWN.
8/20/09 10:20:58 >> I WAS OUT OF TOWN.
8/20/09 10:20:59 DON'T START WITH ME.
8/20/09 10:21:02 >> I'LL START
8/20/09 10:21:05 WITH YOU.
8/20/09 10:21:05 (GAVEL).
8/20/09 10:21:06 >> WE'LL STAND IN RECESS FOR
8/20/09 10:21:07 FIVE MINUTES.
8/20/09 10:21:08 FIVE MINUTE RECESS PGH
8/20/09 10:21:11 >> DON'T ATTACK ME
8/20/09 10:21:11 PERSONALLY.
8/20/09 10:21:14 THAT IS BALONEY.
8/20/09 10:21:17 >> DON'T TALK TO ME.
8/20/09 10:21:20 I DIDN'T
8/20/09 10:21:24 START IT.
8/20/09 10:21:27 >> DON'T YELL.
8/20/09 10:22:06 (RECESS)
8/20/09 10:32:04 >> IF WE CAN GET A CLERK BACK
8/20/09 10:32:08 IN WE'LL GET STARTED.
8/20/09 10:32:30 >> WE NEED THE CLERK IN AND
8/20/09 10:32:31 WE'LL GET STARTED.
8/20/09 10:32:34 >> WE NEED THE FULL COUNCIL.
8/20/09 10:32:36 >> YES.
8/20/09 10:33:04 >> I THOUGHT I WAS BACK
8/20/09 10:33:07 IN
8/20/09 10:33:08 MY
8/20/09 10:33:08 NEIGHBORHOOD.
8/20/09 10:33:11 >> (LAUGHTER)
8/20/09 10:33:29 >> TAMPA CITY COUNCIL NOW
8/20/09 10:33:31 COME
8/20/09 10:33:31 TO ORDER.
8/20/09 10:33:34 ROLE CALL.
8/20/09 10:33:42 (ROLL CALL).
8/20/09 10:33:45 >> LET ME EXTEND MY
8/20/09 10:33:45 APOLOGIES
8/20/09 10:33:46 TO THOSE THAT ARE HERE.
8/20/09 10:33:49 SECOND THING I
8/20/09 10:33:51 WOULD SAY TO
8/20/09 10:33:54 COUNCIL, REMIND US TO ALWAYS
8/20/09 10:33:56 RESPECT OTHER PERSON'S OPINIONS
8/20/09 10:33:57 AND VIEWS.
8/20/09 10:34:00 SECONDLY NEVER ATTACK A
8/20/09 10:34:01 PERSON
8/20/09 10:34:04 BASED ON
8/20/09 10:34:07 THEIR VIEWS
8/20/09 10:34:08 BEFORE I
8/20/09 10:34:10 LOSE CONTROL OF A MEETING I'LL
8/20/09 10:34:11 ADJOURN IT FIRST.
8/20/09 10:34:13 I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
8/20/09 10:34:15 WE MUST MAINTAIN ORDER AND BE
8/20/09 10:34:17 PROFESSIONAL AND WE MUST BE
8/20/09 10:34:19 CORDIAL AND RESPECT EACH
8/20/09 10:34:19 OTHER'S VIEWS.
8/20/09 10:34:21 WE MAY NOT LIKE THEM OR AGREE
8/20/09 10:34:23 WITH THEM BUT WE LIKE --
8/20/09 10:34:25 >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR APOLOGY.
8/20/09 10:34:27 DON'T LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN.
8/20/09 10:34:29 >> (LAUGHTER).
8/20/09 10:34:32 >>
8/20/09 10:34:34 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 10:34:37 OKAY .
8/20/09 10:34:38 >> I HAVE SPOKEN TO MY CLIENT
8/20/09 10:34:39 ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF
8/20/09 10:34:41 PUSHING THIS BACK TWO WEEKS AND
8/20/09 10:34:44 AS I SAID EARLIER I
8/20/09 10:34:45 APPRECIATE
8/20/09 10:34:46 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S
8/20/09 10:34:46 CONCERN.
8/20/09 10:34:47 WE DID BRING UP HOURS OF
8/20/09 10:34:49 OPERATION OR IT WAS BROUGHT UP
8/20/09 10:34:51 AT THE PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL
8/20/09 10:34:51 HEARING.
8/20/09 10:34:54 WE COMMITTED TO KNOW
8/20/09 10:34:55 LATER THAN
8/20/09 10:34:56 MIDNIGHT UPON YOU KNOW FURTHER
8/20/09 10:34:58 REFLECTION MY CLIENT SAID NO
8/20/09 10:34:59 LATER THAN 11.
8/20/09 10:35:02 THEY'RE WILLING TO LIVE
8/20/09 10:35:04 WITH
8/20/09 10:35:04 THAT.
8/20/09 10:35:07 AGAIN, THIS IS, IT'S NOT A
8/20/09 10:35:10 CRITERIA, PERHAPS IT SHOULD BE
8/20/09 10:35:11 FOR THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF
8/20/09 10:35:11 SPECIAL USE.
8/20/09 10:35:12 CURRENTLY IT IS NOT.
8/20/09 10:35:15 THE REQUEST WAS NOT MADE AT THE
8/20/09 10:35:18 PREVIOUS
8/20/09 10:35:18 COUNCIL HEARING.
8/20/09 10:35:21 WE MOVED FORWARD ON A 5-0 VOTE
8/20/09 10:35:23 OUT OF RESPECT FOR COUNCILMAN
8/20/09 10:35:26 DINGFELDER SO I'M SAYING
8/20/09 10:35:29 WITH
8/20/09 10:35:31 NO ON SIGNALS, STAFF SUPPORT SO
8/20/09 10:35:34 WE CAME TO THIS HEARING
8/20/09 10:35:36 OBVIOUSLY AND UNFORTUNATELY
8/20/09 10:35:39 THINKING WE'D BE MOVING
8/20/09 10:35:42 FORWARD
8/20/09 10:35:45 WITHOUT ANY ISSUES.
8/20/09 10:35:48 THE DELAY OF TWO WEEKS
8/20/09 10:35:48 WOULD BE
8/20/09 10:35:50 SUBSTANTIAL HARDSHIP TO MY
8/20/09 10:35:50 CLIENT.
8/20/09 10:35:53 THEY'RE PLANNING ON OPENING
8/20/09 10:35:54 SEPTEMBER 1st.
8/20/09 10:35:57 OF COURSE ALTHOUGH THIS IS A
8/20/09 10:35:58 RESTAURANT, THE BEER AND WINE
8/20/09 10:36:00 SALES WOULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL
8/20/09 10:36:02 REVENUE SOURCE FOR THEM AS PART
8/20/09 10:36:03 OF THE OPENING.
8/20/09 10:36:04 OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT A BAR, IT'S
8/20/09 10:36:07 NOT GOING TO BE THE MAJORITY OF
8/20/09 10:36:10 THEIR SALES, THEY'RE
8/20/09 10:36:11 A SMALL
8/20/09 10:36:11 BUSINESS.
8/20/09 10:36:13 THIS WOULD BE FINANCIALLY
8/20/09 10:36:15 HARMFUL TO THEM TO NOT BE ABLE
8/20/09 10:36:18 TO MOVE FORWARD SO WE WOULD
8/20/09 10:36:20 APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS
8/20/09 10:36:22 AGAIN I UNDERSTAND AND
8/20/09 10:36:24 RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN
8/20/09 10:36:24 DINGFELDER'S CONCERN IN THIS
8/20/09 10:36:27 CASE THOUGH I DON'T BELIEVE
8/20/09 10:36:29 IT'S WARRANTED IN THIS
8/20/09 10:36:31 PARTICULAR CASE THOUGH I
8/20/09 10:36:32 UNDERSTAND THE REQUEST FOR
8/20/09 10:36:33 CONSISTENCY SO THAT BEING SAID
8/20/09 10:36:34 WE WOULD LIKE YOUR VOTE TODAY
8/20/09 10:36:36 AND YOUR SUPPORT IF WE COULD
8/20/09 10:36:36 GET IT.
8/20/09 10:36:38 >> DID I ALSO UNDERSTAND YOU ON
8/20/09 10:36:40 YOUR OWN VOLUNTEER BASIS YOU
8/20/09 10:36:41 WOULD CLOSE AT MIDNIGHT.
8/20/09 10:36:42 >> 11:00 P.M.
8/20/09 10:36:44 >> 11:00 P.M.
8/20/09 10:36:44 YES, SIR.
8/20/09 10:36:45 >> ALL RIGHT.
8/20/09 10:36:48 >> I JUST WANTED
8/20/09 10:36:49 TO SAY THAT
8/20/09 10:36:51 IT'S ALL COMING BACK TO ME NOW
8/20/09 10:36:53 AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM
8/20/09 10:36:54 THE PUBLIC TO ALSO HEAR IF
8/20/09 10:36:57 THERE WAS
8/20/09 10:36:57 ANY OPPOSITION.
8/20/09 10:37:00 I DON'T
8/20/09 10:37:02 REMEMBER BUT
8/20/09 10:37:03 JOHN YOU'RE CORRECT AND
8/20/09 10:37:05 CHAIRMAN SCOTT IS RIGHT BECAUSE
8/20/09 10:37:08 WE DID DISCUSS IT AND WE DID
8/20/09 10:37:10 GET THAT COMMITMENT FROM THEM
8/20/09 10:37:13 AND WE
8/20/09 10:37:15 DIDN'T GET ANY
8/20/09 10:37:16 RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE NEITHER
8/20/09 10:37:17 OF YOU WERE HERE, THE USUAL
8/20/09 10:37:19 PEOPLE WHO ASK ABOUT YOU KNOW
8/20/09 10:37:20 MAKING SURE THAT
8/20/09 10:37:23 THAT IS
8/20/09 10:37:24 A WRITTEN COMMIT MEANT
8/20/09 10:37:27 AND NONE OF US THOUGHT TO DO
8/20/09 10:37:27 THAT.
8/20/09 10:37:29 BECAUSE OF THE FACT THERE WAS
8/20/09 10:37:30 NO OPPOSITION BUT I CAN
8/20/09 10:37:32 CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND YOU
8/20/09 10:37:35 WANTING TO DO THAT.
8/20/09 10:37:38 IT'S A DIFFICULT SPOT BECAUSE
8/20/09 10:37:41 WE DID AGREE TO THIS WITH THE
8/20/09 10:37:43 PETITIONER AND WE DID TRUST
8/20/09 10:37:46 THEM TO BE GOOD TO THEIR WORD
8/20/09 10:37:47 AND THE OTHER THING THAT I'M
8/20/09 10:37:50 GOING TO BRING THIS UP LATER
8/20/09 10:37:50 TO
8/20/09 10:37:53 DISCUSS, WHEN
8/20/09 10:37:55 IT COMES TO
8/20/09 10:37:57 RESTAURANTS AND ZONING WE USE
8/20/09 10:38:00 THIS TOOL OF OURS TO REALLY TRY
8/20/09 10:38:03 TO ENFORCE WHAT IS
8/20/09 10:38:04 PART OF
8/20/09 10:38:06 THEIR PERMIT WHICH IS THAT THEY
8/20/09 10:38:07 HAVE TO SELL, THEY HAVE TO BE
8/20/09 10:38:09 IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS, NOT
8/20/09 10:38:11 IN
8/20/09 10:38:13 THE BAR BUSINESS AND THAT'S THE
8/20/09 10:38:14 OTHER THING WE SORT OF THOUGHT,
8/20/09 10:38:17 THIS IS A JAPANESE STEAK HOUSE,
8/20/09 10:38:19 THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PLAN TO
8/20/09 10:38:20 BECOME A BAR AND I KNOW THERE'S
8/20/09 10:38:21 A LOT OF EVIDENCE THAT YOU
8/20/09 10:38:22 CAN'T ALWAYS ASSUME THAT WILL
8/20/09 10:38:26 HAPPEN SO I TOTALLY SEE YOUR
8/20/09 10:38:28 POINT AND I FEEL LIKE IF
8/20/09 10:38:31 THERE'S ANYWAY WE
8/20/09 10:38:32 COULD ASK THE
8/20/09 10:38:33 PETITIONER TO DELAY IT MIGHT
8/20/09 10:38:36 HELP BUT I NEED TO HEAR FROM
8/20/09 10:38:39 THE PUBLIC
8/20/09 10:38:40 FIRST.
8/20/09 10:38:43 >> THANK
8/20/09 10:38:46 YOU, SIR.
8/20/09 10:38:46 >>
8/20/09 10:38:48 >> FURTHER COMMENT?
8/20/09 10:38:51 >> WALTER CRU-M-BLY FROM THE
8/20/09 10:38:53 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
8/20/09 10:38:54 INVOLVED.
8/20/09 10:38:56 I WAS HERE TWO WEEKS AGO AND IT
8/20/09 10:38:58 WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AND AGAIN
8/20/09 10:38:58 I DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY ASK FOR
8/20/09 10:39:01 IT BUT I DID RAISE THE
8/20/09 10:39:02 HOURS
8/20/09 10:39:05 ISSUE AND THEY SAID 11 TO
8/20/09 10:39:05 12
8/20/09 10:39:08 AND THIS WAS
8/20/09 10:39:09 SATISFACTORY WITH
8/20/09 10:39:13 THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT
8/20/09 10:39:14 I
8/20/09 10:39:17 UNDERSTAND THE HARDSHIP PROBLEM
8/20/09 10:39:18 THEY FACE SO WE LEAVE IT IN
8/20/09 10:39:19 YOUR GOOD HANDS.
8/20/09 10:39:20 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 10:39:23 >> ANYONE ELSE
8/20/09 10:39:26 FOR
8/20/09 10:39:28 THE PUBLIC?
8/20/09 10:39:29 >>> I APOLOGIZE FOR MY LITTLE
8/20/09 10:39:31 ISSUE EARLIER BUT I SAID IT WAS
8/20/09 10:39:32 YOUR OBLIGATION TO BRING IT UP
8/20/09 10:39:34 BUT IT WASN'T.
8/20/09 10:39:34 IT'S NOT LEGAL'S OBLIGATION TO
8/20/09 10:39:36 BRING IT UP.
8/20/09 10:39:39 I WAS GENERALLY REFERRING TO
8/20/09 10:39:42 THE OTHER STAFF BUT ANY WAY,
8/20/09 10:39:42 MY
8/20/09 10:39:44 QUESTION REBECCA IS, AS RELATED
8/20/09 10:39:46 TO THE FACT THAT THESE FOLKS
8/20/09 10:39:49 HAVE OFFERED TO CLOSE AT 11,
8/20/09 10:39:51 THERE'S NO ENFORCE BUILT ON
8/20/09 10:39:54 THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE
8/20/09 10:39:57 SITE PLAN OR IN THE ORDINANCE,
8/20/09 10:39:57 CORRECT?
8/20/09 10:40:00 >> I WOULD SAY THERE'S LIMITED
8/20/09 10:40:00 ENFORCEMENT.
8/20/09 10:40:03 THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO YOU ON
8/20/09 10:40:03 THE RECORD.
8/20/09 10:40:04 THEY ARE UNDER OATH.
8/20/09 10:40:06 HOW FAR WE COULD TAKE IT IF
8/20/09 10:40:07 IT'S NOT ON THE SITE PLAN MAYBE
8/20/09 10:40:09 OPEN TO QUESTION.
8/20/09 10:40:10 >> THAT'S WHY WE --
8/20/09 10:40:11 >> THAT'S WHY YOU PUT THE
8/20/09 10:40:12 CONDITIONS ON THE SITE PLAN.
8/20/09 10:40:15 >> AND NUMBER TWO IS,
8/20/09 10:40:17 IN TERMS
8/20/09 10:40:19 OF TRANSFERRING, IF THEY GOT A
8/20/09 10:40:20 PROVED TODAY, MONTHS FROM
8/20/09 10:40:22 THOUSAND THEY CHANGED THEIR
8/20/09 10:40:23 CONCEPT, CHANGED OWNERS, THEY
8/20/09 10:40:25 HAVE A DIFFERENT TENANT, ETC.,
8/20/09 10:40:28 THERE IS NO ASSURANCES
8/20/09 10:40:31 PERIOD,
8/20/09 10:40:32 CORRECT?
8/20/09 10:40:32 >> YES.
8/20/09 10:40:33 THAT IS CORRECT.
8/20/09 10:40:35 >> THANKS.
8/20/09 10:40:36 >> COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8/20/09 10:40:37 >> I THINK WITH ALL OF THE
8/20/09 10:40:39 DISCUSSIONS GOING ON I'D LIKE
8/20/09 10:40:40 TO ASK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
8/20/09 10:40:42 SOMETHING I DON'T BELIEVE HAS
8/20/09 10:40:44 EVER BEEN DONE.
8/20/09 10:40:45 IF IN FACT THE PETITIONER
8/20/09 10:40:47 STATED ON THE RECORD, EVEN
8/20/09 10:40:50 THOUGH IT'S NOT ON THE RECORD
8/20/09 10:40:51 AS FAR AS THE ORDINANCE, BUT
8/20/09 10:40:54 THEY STATED ON THE RECORD LIKE
8/20/09 10:40:54 YOU SAID.
8/20/09 10:40:57 THERE'S SOMELY QUALITY TO THAT
8/20/09 10:41:00 WOULD IT BE --THERE'S SOME
8/20/09 10:41:02 LEGALITY IN THAT, WOULD THERE
8/20/09 10:41:03 BE SOME POSSIBILITY TO ALLOW
8/20/09 10:41:05 THIS TO GO THROUGH FOR A PERIOD
8/20/09 10:41:06 OF SAY 30 DAYS SAYING THEY HAVE
8/20/09 10:41:09 TO COME BACK TO AMEND THE
8/20/09 10:41:11 PROPOSAL TO THE REQUIRED HOURS
8/20/09 10:41:11 THEY HAVE STATED.
8/20/09 10:41:13 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S
8/20/09 10:41:13 POSSIBLE.
8/20/09 10:41:14 I'M JUST BRINGING IT UP.
8/20/09 10:41:16 >> NO YOU CANNOT REQUIRE THEM
8/20/09 10:41:18 TO COME BACK AND AMEND IT AND
8/20/09 10:41:19 IF THEY DID IT WOULD BE
8/20/09 10:41:21 CONSIDERED A NEW SITE AND A NEW
8/20/09 10:41:24 SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND THERE'D
8/20/09 10:41:26 BE A, ANY CHANGE OF CONDITIONS
8/20/09 10:41:28 WOULD BE A FULL CHANGE WITH A
8/20/09 10:41:29 FULL FEE REQUIRED.
8/20/09 10:41:32 >> EITHER WAY YOU GO YOU
8/20/09 10:41:35 DON'T
8/20/09 10:41:41 GO NOWHERE
8/20/09 10:41:41 .
8/20/09 10:41:44 >> ALL SIGNIFY BY
8/20/09 10:41:47 SAYING AYE.
8/20/09 10:41:47 >> AYE.
8/20/09 10:41:49 >> ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING
8/20/09 10:41:52 AND ADOPTION, SPECIAL PERMIT
8/20/09 10:41:55 FOR ALCOHOL BEVERAGE
8/20/09 10:41:55 SALES
8/20/09 10:41:56 SMALL VENUE AND LAWFUL SALE
8/20/09 10:41:57 WITH ALCOHOL MORE THAN 1
8/20/09 10:41:59 PERCENT BY WEIGHT AND NOT MORE
8/20/09 10:42:00 THAN 14 PERCENT BY WEIGHT AND
8/20/09 10:42:02 WINES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC
8/20/09 10:42:05 CONTENT BEER AND WINE 2C0PR
8/20/09 10:42:06 FOR
8/20/09 10:42:07 CONSUMPTION ON THE PREMISES
8/20/09 10:42:08 ONLY IN CONNECTION WITH A
8/20/09 10:42:10 RESTAURANT BUSINESS,
8/20/09 10:42:11 ESTABLISHMENT ON A CERTAIN PLOT
8/20/09 10:42:14 OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 533
8/20/09 10:42:17 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE, 4D
8/20/09 10:42:18 AND 4E,
8/20/09 10:42:19 TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE
8/20/09 10:42:20 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
8/20/09 10:42:22 SECTION 2 HERE OF APPROVING
8/20/09 10:42:23 WAVERS ASSET FORTH HERE IN,
8/20/09 10:42:25 PROVIDING APPEAL OF ALL
8/20/09 10:42:28 ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT
8/20/09 10:42:30 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
8/20/09 10:42:30 THE SECOND.
8/20/09 10:42:30 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 10:42:31 >> MOVE THE SECOND.
8/20/09 10:42:34 RECORD YOUR VOTE.
8/20/09 10:42:46 >> MOTION CARRIED
8/20/09 10:42:47 WITH
8/20/09 10:42:49 DINGFELDER AND (INAUDIBLE)
8/20/09 10:42:49 VOTING NO.
8/20/09 10:42:50 >> MR. CHAIRMAN.
8/20/09 10:42:51 >> YES, SIR.
8/20/09 10:42:52 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 10:42:52 >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
8/20/09 10:42:55 >> BEFORE YOU GO FORWARD I
8/20/09 10:42:56 HAD
8/20/09 10:42:57 AN OPPORTUNITY BRIEFLY TO TALK
8/20/09 10:42:59 WITH MISS KIRK ABOUT THIS ISSUE
8/20/09 10:43:01 AND MR. DINGFELDER RAISES AN
8/20/09 10:43:04 ISSUE AS TO WHAT CITY COUNCIL'S
8/20/09 10:43:07 POLICY NORMALLY
8/20/09 10:43:08 IS AND FRANKLY
8/20/09 10:43:09 NOT TO SPEAK FOR THE STAFF BUT
8/20/09 10:43:10 WHEN IT COMES TO INDIVIDUAL
8/20/09 10:43:12 POLICY DECISIONS IT WOULD BE
8/20/09 10:43:13 INAPPROPRIATE FOR MEMBERS OF
8/20/09 10:43:16 STAFF TO INFORM COUNCIL OF WHAT
8/20/09 10:43:18 COUNCIL NORMALLY DOES ON, WHAT
8/20/09 10:43:20 IT IMPOSES ON A CASE BY CASE
8/20/09 10:43:22 BASIS AND THE REASON I'M SAYING
8/20/09 10:43:24 THIS IF COUNCIL AS A POLICY
8/20/09 10:43:25 BELIEVES WHEN YOU GRANT
8/20/09 10:43:27 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SPECIAL USE
8/20/09 10:43:27 PERMITS TO RESTAURANTS, THAT
8/20/09 10:43:30 THEY SHOULD AS A MATTER OF
8/20/09 10:43:32 COURSE CLOSE AT MIDNIGHT LET'S
8/20/09 10:43:33 SAY, OR NO LATER THAN MIDNIGHT,
8/20/09 10:43:36 THEN WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IS YOU
8/20/09 10:43:37 HAVE APPLIED THAT RULE TO
8/20/09 10:43:39 EVERYBODY AND YOU COULD PERHAPS
8/20/09 10:43:42 DOWN THE ROAD, IF COUNCIL
8/20/09 10:43:45 WISHES, TO WAIVE
8/20/09 10:43:45 THAT UNDER
8/20/09 10:43:45 SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES WHICH
8/20/09 10:43:46 WOULD HAVE TO BE SET FORTH BUT
8/20/09 10:43:48 I'M SAYING THAT IS IF COUNCIL
8/20/09 10:43:51 WISHES TO HAVE
8/20/09 10:43:53 THIS POLICY PUT
8/20/09 10:43:55 INTO CONSISTENTLY APPLIED,
8/20/09 10:43:57 COUNCIL MAY WAN TO CONSIDER AND
8/20/09 10:43:58 UNDER STATE LAW YOU HAVE THE
8/20/09 10:44:00 RIGHT TO CONTROL HOURS OF
8/20/09 10:44:02 OPERATION WITH REGARD TO
8/20/09 10:44:04 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, AS A
8/20/09 10:44:05 GENERAL RULE APPLICABLE TO
8/20/09 10:44:06 ANYBODY WHO READS THE CODE FROM
8/20/09 10:44:08 THIS DATE FORWARD FROM THE DATE
8/20/09 10:44:09 OF ENACTMENT COUNCIL WILL PUT
8/20/09 10:44:11 PEOPLE ON NOTICE THAT IF YOU
8/20/09 10:44:13 HAVE AN R CLASSIFICATION THAT
8/20/09 10:44:16 YOU HAVE CERTAIN HOURS
8/20/09 10:44:18 OF ON
8/20/09 10:44:18 RACIAL.
8/20/09 10:44:21 JUST A
8/20/09 10:44:22 SUGGESTION.
8/20/09 10:44:26 I'M JUST
8/20/09 10:44:26 SAYING --
8/20/09 10:44:30 >> --YOU HAVE CERTAIN
8/20/09 10:44:31 HOURS OF
8/20/09 10:44:31 CONSIDERATION.
8/20/09 10:44:32 THAT WAS JUST A SUGGESTION.
8/20/09 10:44:35 >> I'M JUST SAYING.
8/20/09 10:44:37 >> YOU HAVE CERTAIN HOURS.
8/20/09 10:44:40 >> THE ISSUE WAS RAISED BY
8/20/09 10:44:41 THE
8/20/09 10:44:41 NEIGHBORHOOD.
8/20/09 10:44:44 THE ISSUE WAS RAISED TO THE
8/20/09 10:44:44 NEIGHBORHOOD APPARENTLY UNDER
8/20/09 10:44:46 WHAT HE SAID TODAY HE WAS UNDER
8/20/09 10:44:48 THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY
8/20/09 10:44:48 WOULD ENACT SOMETHING THAT
8/20/09 10:44:50 WOULD PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD
8/20/09 10:44:50 AND CLOSE THE RESTAURANT
8/20/09 10:44:53 SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
8/20/09 10:44:56 OF
8/20/09 10:44:59 11 TO
8/20/09 10:45:02 12:00 A.M.
8/20/09 10:45:04 HE WALKED AWAY THINKING THAT
8/20/09 10:45:05 WAS THE CASE.
8/20/09 10:45:05 OKAY.
8/20/09 10:45:05 HE CAME THE SECOND READING AND
8/20/09 10:45:06 FOUND OUT IT WASN'T THE CASE
8/20/09 10:45:06 BUT BECAUSE WE WERE TOO FAR
8/20/09 10:45:07 DOWN THE TRACT, THIS COUNCIL
8/20/09 10:45:08 APPROVED IT SO I THINK THAT IS
8/20/09 10:45:08 PART OF WHERE I WAS COMING FROM
8/20/09 10:45:09 BEFORE.
8/20/09 10:45:09 ALSO I'M PLEASED TO LEARN IT
8/20/09 10:45:10 WAS DISCUSSED AT FIRST READING
8/20/09 10:45:12 BUT AT THAT POINT IN TIME I
8/20/09 10:45:15 WOULD SAY THAT STAFF AND LEGAL
8/20/09 10:45:16 NEEDED TO REMIND THIS COUNCIL,
8/20/09 10:45:18 COUNCIL LOOK, IF YOU'RE
8/20/09 10:45:19 CONCERNED ABOUT 11 OR 12 THEN
8/20/09 10:45:21 YOU NEED TO PUT IN IN THE
8/20/09 10:45:24 ORDINANCE --ORDINANCE AND THE
8/20/09 10:45:26 SITE PLAN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT
8/20/09 10:45:27 ISSUE THAN WHAT YOU HAVE
8/20/09 10:45:28 RAISED.
8/20/09 10:45:28 >> LISTEN.
8/20/09 10:45:31 I DON'T WANT TO SPEND A LOT OF
8/20/09 10:45:33 TIME ON THIS.
8/20/09 10:45:37 WE NEED
8/20/09 10:45:37 AN AGENDA ITEM, MY
8/20/09 10:45:38 SUGGESTION IF YOU WANT TO
8/20/09 10:45:41 FURTHER DISCUSS IT PUT IT ON
8/20/09 10:45:41 THE AGENDA AND DISCUSS IT.
8/20/09 10:45:43 >> I CAN SAY IT USED TO BE THAT
8/20/09 10:45:46 WAY, WE WOULD HAVE THOSE WITH
8/20/09 10:45:48 THE 4COP COME UP THAT WERE
8/20/09 10:45:50 UNDER STATE LAW AND IT WAS
8/20/09 10:45:50 CHANGED BY US.
8/20/09 10:45:52 WE CHANGED IT SO NOW IT'S
8/20/09 10:45:53 HARDLY EVER DISCUSSED BECAUSE
8/20/09 10:45:55 WE CHANGED --NOW WE WAN TO
8/20/09 10:45:56 AMEND OUR OWN CHANGE IN THE
8/20/09 10:45:58 MIDDLE OF A CHANGE AND IT'S
8/20/09 10:45:59 VERY CONFUSING NOT ONLY TO US
8/20/09 10:46:00 BUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOOD
8/20/09 10:46:03 PEOPLE WHO ARE BRINGING
8/20/09 10:46:04 IT UP.
8/20/09 10:46:07 I CAN SAY THIS EVEN A MONTH
8/20/09 10:46:08 AND
8/20/09 10:46:09 A HALF OR TWO MONTHS AGO AND
8/20/09 10:46:10 IT'S SOMEWHERE IN LEGAL I SAID
8/20/09 10:46:14 WHY IS IT WHEN YOU ZONE
8/20/09 10:46:15 A
8/20/09 10:46:18 STRUCTURE OR COP LET'S
8/20/09 10:46:19 SAY OR
8/20/09 10:46:22 4COPR, AND
8/20/09 10:46:24 THAT STRUCTURE IS
8/20/09 10:46:24 FOREVER.
8/20/09 10:46:25 IT'S NOT TO THE PETITIONER,
8/20/09 10:46:28 IT'S NOT TO
8/20/09 10:46:30 THE BUILDING.
8/20/09 10:46:33 IT IS FOREVER SO IF THERE WAS A
8/20/09 10:46:34 WAY WE COULD GO TO THE
8/20/09 10:46:35 LEGISLATURE WITH AND I THINK
8/20/09 10:46:37 THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO GO, TO
8/20/09 10:46:40 GIVE CITIES LIKE THE CITY OF
8/20/09 10:46:43 TAMPA THE INDIVIDUAL
8/20/09 10:46:43 FREEDOM TO
8/20/09 10:46:45 SAY ONCE THAT INDIVIDUAL MOVES,
8/20/09 10:46:46 BEFORE HE OR SHE MOVES THEY
8/20/09 10:46:49 HAVE TO COME BACK AND GET
8/20/09 10:46:50 REAPPROVAL BECAUSE YOU DON'T
8/20/09 10:46:52 KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.
8/20/09 10:46:53 YOU JUST CAN'T CONTROL IT AND
8/20/09 10:46:55 EVERYTHING IS DONE IN GOOD
8/20/09 10:46:57 NATURE, TODAY YOU MIGHT HAVE
8/20/09 10:46:58 SOMETHING THAT IS IN GREAT
8/20/09 10:47:00 SURROUNDINGS, 10 YEARS FROM NOW
8/20/09 10:47:01 THE SURROUNDING AREA MAY CHANGE
8/20/09 10:47:03 AND THAT DOESN'T FIT THERE
8/20/09 10:47:04 ANYMORE.
8/20/09 10:47:05 SHOULD THEY LEAVE, NO, THEY HAD
8/20/09 10:47:07 IT AT THE RIGHT TIME AT THE
8/20/09 10:47:08 RIGHT PLACE BUT IF THEY CREATE
8/20/09 10:47:09 A NUISANCE THEN THERE'S A
8/20/09 10:47:11 DIFFERENT QUESTION AND THOSE
8/20/09 10:47:14 ARE THE THINGS THAT JUST KEEP
8/20/09 10:47:17 CONTINUING TO COME UP, WHY, WHY
8/20/09 10:47:18 NOT, WHY CAN WE NOT DO THIS AND
8/20/09 10:47:21 THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT
8/20/09 10:47:23 BOTHER ME.
8/20/09 10:47:24 >> COUNCILWOMAN LINDA SAUL-
8/20/09 10:47:24 SENA?
8/20/09 10:47:25 >> I AGREE WITH YOU.
8/20/09 10:47:26 I THINK WE SHOULD SET UP A
8/20/09 10:47:28 WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THAT.
8/20/09 10:47:29 I THINK WE SHOULD WORK THROUGH
8/20/09 10:47:31 THE LEGISLATION DELEGATION AND
8/20/09 10:47:32 ALSO THE OTHER, THE OVERALL
8/20/09 10:47:36 THING I'D LIKE TO DO, TIME
8/20/09 10:47:36 ON
8/20/09 10:47:37 THE WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS COUNCIL
8/20/09 10:47:38 CONTROLLED LIQUOR ZONING.
8/20/09 10:47:40 >> YES LET'S TAKE IT UP ON NEW
8/20/09 10:47:40 BUSINESS.
8/20/09 10:47:40 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 10:47:42 >> WANT TO DO THAT?
8/20/09 10:47:42 >> SURE.
8/20/09 10:47:44 >> AND ON THE NEW BUSINESS AT
8/20/09 10:47:45 SOME POINT YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK
8/20/09 10:47:48 AT IT AND SAY I
8/20/09 10:47:51 DON'T THINK,
8/20/09 10:47:54 I
8/20/09 10:47:56 DON'T THINK NO (INAUDIBLE)
8/20/09 10:47:59 BECAUSE LEGAL COMES IN
8/20/09 10:48:00 AND
8/20/09 10:48:02 ADDRESSES THAT I THINK WE'RE
8/20/09 10:48:06 THE ONLY CITY WITH HEARINGS
8/20/09 10:48:09 ON
8/20/09 10:48:14 THESE ISSUES .
8/20/09 10:48:17 >> WE BE HAPPY TO BRING IT BACK
8/20/09 10:48:18 TO YOU, TWO FULL HEARINGS
8/20/09 10:48:19 BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IS SOMEWHAT
8/20/09 10:48:21 UNUSUAL IN THE STATE.
8/20/09 10:48:22 MOST JURISDICTIONS HANDLE AT
8/20/09 10:48:24 LEAST SOME OF THESE
8/20/09 10:48:25 ADMINISTRATIVE BUT WE'D BE
8/20/09 10:48:28 HAPPY TO REPORT BACK TO YOU
8/20/09 10:48:31 WITH
8/20/09 10:48:37 MORE INFORMATION.
8/20/09 10:48:42 >> ITEM 93, 10:00 A.M.
8/20/09 10:48:43 PUBLIC HEARING.
8/20/09 10:48:43 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 10:48:46 >> ALL IN FAVOR
8/20/09 10:48:46 AYE.
8/20/09 10:48:50 >>
8/20/09 10:48:51 AYE.
8/20/09 10:48:51 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 10:48:54 ITEM 93
8/20/09 10:48:57 ITEM 93 IS THE
8/20/09 10:48:58 ASSESSMENT FOR
8/20/09 10:49:01 THE COLONIAL GRAND
8/20/09 10:49:03 AT HAMPTON
8/20/09 10:49:05 PRESERVES, I BELIEVE YOU CAN
8/20/09 10:49:06 OPEN IT.
8/20/09 10:49:07 ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS
8/20/09 10:49:08 COUNCIL, MOVE THE RESOLUTION
8/20/09 10:49:09 AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
8/20/09 10:49:11 >> ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH
8/20/09 10:49:13 TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ITEM 93?
8/20/09 10:49:15 >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
8/20/09 10:49:17 >> ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
8/20/09 10:49:20 SAYING
8/20/09 10:49:21 AYE.
8/20/09 10:49:21 >> AYE.
8/20/09 10:49:22 >> OPPOSES.
8/20/09 10:49:23 >> CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
8/20/09 10:49:26 >> ALL IN FAVOR
8/20/09 10:49:27 AYE.
8/20/09 10:49:28 >> AYE.
8/20/09 10:49:29 >> ITEM 94.
8/20/09 10:49:30 ITEM 94.
8/20/09 10:49:33 >> THEY HAVE BEEN OPEN BUT I
8/20/09 10:49:36 BELIEVE PER THE REQUEST
8/20/09 10:49:37 OF THE
8/20/09 10:49:38 ASSIST ANT CITY ATTORNEY IT'S
8/20/09 10:49:41 REQUESTED TO BE CONTINUED
8/20/09 10:49:44 TO
8/20/09 10:49:47 THE THIRD THIRD OF SEPTEMBER AT
8/20/09 10:49:50 10:00 A.M.
8/20/09 10:49:53 I BELIEVE
8/20/09 10:49:53 SECOND.
8/20/09 10:49:54 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 10:49:57 >> ALL IN FAVOR
8/20/09 10:49:59 AYE.
8/20/09 10:50:02 >>
8/20/09 10:50:04 AYE.
8/20/09 10:50:06 >> OPPOSES?
8/20/09 10:50:09 ITEM 95, CONTINUED
8/20/09 10:50:13 PUBLIC
8/20/09 10:50:14 HEARING .
8/20/09 10:50:15 >> ALL WITNESSES SHOULD HAVE
8/20/09 10:50:17 BEEN SWORN IN EARLIER.
8/20/09 10:50:18 ANYONE WHO HAS NOT BEEN SWORN?
8/20/09 10:50:22 >> 95 OR 96, ARE YOU GOING
8/20/09 10:50:23 TO
8/20/09 10:50:23 TESTIFY?
8/20/09 10:50:26 >> WE STATED EARLIER --
8/20/09 10:50:27 IF YOU
8/20/09 10:50:29 HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN PLEASE
8/20/09 10:50:33 STAND AT
8/20/09 10:50:39 THIS TIME
8/20/09 10:50:43 .
8/20/09 10:50:45 >> GOOD MORNING.
8/20/09 10:50:46 THE CASE BEFORE YOU, I JUST
8/20/09 10:50:48 HANDED OUT PACKAGES OF
8/20/09 10:50:48 INFORMATION.
8/20/09 10:50:49 THIS CASE WAS PREVIOUSLY HEARD
8/20/09 10:50:52 BY COUNCIL ON JULY 23rd AND
8/20/09 10:50:55 CONTINUED AT THE DIRECTION OF
8/20/09 10:50:56 COUNCIL TO FURTHER FOR THE
8/20/09 10:50:57 PETITION TO FURTHER EXAMINE THE
8/20/09 10:50:59 SIZE OF THE BUILDING, THE
8/20/09 10:51:01 ABILITY TO MEET THE REQUIRED
8/20/09 10:51:03 PARKING ON SITE AND ACCESS TO
8/20/09 10:51:04 THE SITE RELATED TO CIRCULATION
8/20/09 10:51:07 AND CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC IN
8/20/09 10:51:07 THE
8/20/09 10:51:08 NEIGHBORHOOD.
8/20/09 10:51:10 THE PETITIONER HAS RESPONDED.
8/20/09 10:51:11 THEY HAVE RESPONDED BY REDUCING
8/20/09 10:51:14 THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING BY
8/20/09 10:51:15 1423 SQUARE FEET WHICH IN TURN
8/20/09 10:51:17 REDUCED THE NUMBER OF PARKING
8/20/09 10:51:19 SPACES THAT WERE REQUIRED FROM
8/20/09 10:51:21 99 DOWN TO 90.
8/20/09 10:51:22 THERE IS STILL A WAVER BECAUSE
8/20/09 10:51:25 THEY CAN ONLY PROVIDE 78
8/20/09 10:51:27 SPACES
8/20/09 10:51:28 ON SITE.
8/20/09 10:51:30 THEY HAD 80 IN THE FIRST SITE
8/20/09 10:51:32 PLAN BUT THEY LOST TWO BY NOT
8/20/09 10:51:33 HAVING FULL ACCESS ON THE ALLEY
8/20/09 10:51:36 AND YOU'LL SEE I PROVIDED
8/20/09 10:51:37 A
8/20/09 10:51:40 SITE PLAN IN THE PACKAGE
8/20/09 10:51:40 AND
8/20/09 10:51:42 HIGHLIGHTED THOSE AREAS AND
8/20/09 10:51:45 ALSO THE SITE DATA TABLE SO
8/20/09 10:51:47 THERE IS A WAVER FROM 90 SPACES
8/20/09 10:51:50 TO 78 WHICH IS A 13.3
8/20/09 10:51:51 PERCENT
8/20/09 10:51:52 REDUCTION AND AT THIS TIME
8/20/09 10:51:54 THEY'RE ALSO UPPING THE NUMBER
8/20/09 10:51:57 OF COMPACT SPACES SO THEY'RE AT
8/20/09 10:51:58 67 PERCENT COMPACT SO THEY NEED
8/20/09 10:52:00 A WAVER TO BE ADDED FOR THAT
8/20/09 10:52:02 WHICH WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY ON THE
8/20/09 10:52:03 SITE PLAN.
8/20/09 10:52:04 IN RELATION TO LAND DEVELOPMENT
8/20/09 10:52:07 COORDINATION, WE HAD SOME
8/20/09 10:52:10 CONCERNS ABOUT THE CHANNEL OF
8/20/09 10:52:11 THE DRIVE ON MELVILLE TO AVOID
8/20/09 10:52:13 SOME CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC.
8/20/09 10:52:15 IT WAS PUT ONTO THE SITE PLAN
8/20/09 10:52:19 AS HIGHLIGHTED THERE ALSO
8/20/09 10:52:19 AND
8/20/09 10:52:20 THEN LASTLY, WAS THE ABILITY
8/20/09 10:52:22 THE SETBACK OF THE BUILDING.
8/20/09 10:52:23 WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS THEY
8/20/09 10:52:25 HAVE DIMENSIONS, THE NORTH TO
8/20/09 10:52:27 THE 170 FEET BUT IN THE SITE
8/20/09 10:52:30 DATA TABLE IT SHOWS 145 FEET SO
8/20/09 10:52:32 I WANTED THEM TO CLARIFY
8/20/09 10:52:33 WHETHER OR NOT IT'S BEING LEFT
8/20/09 10:52:36 AT 145 SO
8/20/09 10:52:39 THE BUILDING COULD,
8/20/09 10:52:39 IF DURING ENGINEERING THEY
8/20/09 10:52:41 FIGURED OUT SOMETHING NEEDED TO
8/20/09 10:52:42 BE MOVED.
8/20/09 10:52:44 LASTLY, IN YOUR PACKAGE, ARE
8/20/09 10:52:47 THE CURRENT OBJECTIONS OR
8/20/09 10:52:50 FINDINGS OF INCONSISTENCY FROM
8/20/09 10:52:50 TRANSPORTATION.
8/20/09 10:52:52 ONE IS FOR THE EXCESSIVE
8/20/09 10:52:53 REDUCTION IN REQUIRED PARKING
8/20/09 10:52:54 FOR MEDICAL OFFICE.
8/20/09 10:52:56 THE OTHER IS THE ACCESS TO A
8/20/09 10:52:59 LOCAL STREET AND ALSO ACCESS ON
8/20/09 10:52:59 THE ALLEY.
8/20/09 10:53:02 AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM IF
8/20/09 10:53:03 COUNCIL IS SO INCLINED TO
8/20/09 10:53:05 APPROVE THIS PLAN TODAY, THERE
8/20/09 10:53:06 ARE TWO REVISIONS THAT WOULD
8/20/09 10:53:08 NEED TO BE MADE IN BETWEEN
8/20/09 10:53:10 FIRST AND SECOND READING.
8/20/09 10:53:11 I CAN REA QUAINT YOU WITH THE
8/20/09 10:53:14 SITE IF YOU NEED TO.
8/20/09 10:53:15 IT'S ON SWAN AVENUE NEXT TO
8/20/09 10:53:16 TEMPLE DAVID I THINK YOU ARE
8/20/09 10:53:18 ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.
8/20/09 10:53:21 STAFF IS AVAILABLE
8/20/09 10:53:23 FOR ANY
8/20/09 10:53:23 QUESTIONS.
8/20/09 10:53:24 >> I'M REALLY OVERWHELMED WHEN
8/20/09 10:53:27 I LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN
8/20/09 10:53:29 AND SEE
8/20/09 10:53:32 THE NUMBER OF --IT LOOKS LIKE
8/20/09 10:53:34 THE VAST MAJORITY ARE FOR
8/20/09 10:53:34 EXACTS.
8/20/09 10:53:35 IS THERE ANYBODY FROM
8/20/09 10:53:36 TRANSPORTATION WHO CAN TELL ME
8/20/09 10:53:37 THE REALITY OF THE PERCENTAGE
8/20/09 10:53:40 OF CARS IN A PARKING LOT BEING
8/20/09 10:53:42 COMPACT BECAUSE JUST VISUALLY
8/20/09 10:53:44 GOING TO THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE OR
8/20/09 10:53:46 PU-BLI-X IT LOOKS LIKE HALF ARE
8/20/09 10:53:48 COMPACT AND THE HALF ARE
8/20/09 10:53:50 ENORMOUS SUV'S AND THIS COULD
8/20/09 10:53:53 BE A
8/20/09 10:53:57 BIG PROBLEM.
8/20/09 10:53:58 >> I'M NOT CLEAR ON THE
8/20/09 10:53:59 QUESTION.
8/20/09 10:54:00 >> WHAT PERCENTAGE OF REAL
8/20/09 10:54:03 CARS, IN A REAL PARKING LOT IN
8/20/09 10:54:04 SOUTH TAMPA ARE ACTUALLY
8/20/09 10:54:04 COMPACT.
8/20/09 10:54:06 >> I WOULD THINK MOST OF THEM
8/20/09 10:54:09 ARE, LESS THAN
8/20/09 10:54:11 THE MAJORITY
8/20/09 10:54:11 THAT'S REQUIRED.
8/20/09 10:54:14 THE MORE STANDARD PARKING
8/20/09 10:54:15 SPACES.
8/20/09 10:54:18 THIS IS ACTUALLY OVER
8/20/09 10:54:18 THE
8/20/09 10:54:21 LIMIT, 65 PERCENT AS ALLOWED
8/20/09 10:54:22 FOR COMPACT.
8/20/09 10:54:24 ACTUALLY 67 PERCENT BUT IN THAT
8/20/09 10:54:27 AREA IT'S USUALLY MORE STANDARD
8/20/09 10:54:27 PARKING SPACES.
8/20/09 10:54:30 >> SO TO BE CLEAR, WHAT IS THE
8/20/09 10:54:33 NORMAL PERCENTAGE OF STANDARD
8/20/09 10:54:34 PARKING SPACES?
8/20/09 10:54:37 >> IT'S LESS THAN --IT'S 65
8/20/09 10:54:40 PERCENT OR LESS FOR
8/20/09 10:54:44 COMPACT
8/20/09 10:54:44 SPACES.
8/20/09 10:54:47 >> SO WHAT PERCENTAGE
8/20/09 10:54:49 ARE
8/20/09 10:54:50 STANDARD.
8/20/09 10:54:51 >> 35 PERCENT.
8/20/09 10:54:53 >>
8/20/09 10:54:53 OKAY.
8/20/09 10:54:54 I'M TALKING ABOUT THE REALITY I
8/20/09 10:54:56 SEE IN PARKING LOTS AND I WOULD
8/20/09 10:54:59 SAY THAT AT LEAST HALF OF THE
8/20/09 10:55:02 CARS ARE
8/20/09 10:55:05 STANDARD OR MEGA-
8/20/09 10:55:05 STANDARD.
8/20/09 10:55:06 >> I'M NOT SEEING THAT.
8/20/09 10:55:07 >> THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL
8/20/09 10:55:07 DISCUSS LATER.
8/20/09 10:55:09 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 10:55:11 >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
8/20/09 10:55:14 >> ARE YOU
8/20/09 10:55:16 THE PETITIONER?
8/20/09 10:55:17 >> YES.
8/20/09 10:55:18 >> PETITIONER?
8/20/09 10:55:18 >> YES.
8/20/09 10:55:21 GOOD MORNING, I'M JOHN LAROCA,
8/20/09 10:55:24 AGENT FOR THE
8/20/09 10:55:25 PETITIONER.
8/20/09 10:55:28 AS A-B-BY INDICATED WE IN
8/20/09 10:55:29 RESPONSE TO THE QUESTIONS
8/20/09 10:55:31 RAISED AT THE LAST MEETING WE
8/20/09 10:55:34 MADE CHANGES TO
8/20/09 10:55:37 THE RE-
8/20/09 10:55:38 SUBMITTED SITE PLAN.
8/20/09 10:55:41 I WON'T REPEAT THE COMMENTARY
8/20/09 10:55:42 THAT WAS SAID, WE LOWERED
8/20/09 10:55:43 THOUGH THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING
8/20/09 10:55:45 AND ADDED AN ADDITIONAL ACCESS
8/20/09 10:55:46 POINT ON THE SIDE OF THE ALLEY.
8/20/09 10:55:49 PUT IN A TRAFFIC DIVERTER ON
8/20/09 10:55:51 MELVILLE WHERE THEY, WITH A
8/20/09 10:55:52 RAISED CURB AND LEFT TURN ONLY
8/20/09 10:55:55 AND WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO
8/20/09 10:55:56 ASSURE THE BUILDING WOULD BE
8/20/09 10:55:57 PUSHED UP TOWARDS SWAN.
8/20/09 10:56:00 WE KNOW THAT THE FOCUS OF THE
8/20/09 10:56:03 DISCUSSION AS RELATED TO
8/20/09 10:56:05 PARKING AND ACCESS, MIKE YATES
8/20/09 10:56:08 WITH LIN-X AND ASSOCIATES HAS
8/20/09 10:56:09 DONE A BRIEF SUMMARY REPORT IN
8/20/09 10:56:10 TERMS OF THE ADJUSTMENT MADE
8/20/09 10:56:13 WITH SLIGHT INCREASE IN
8/20/09 10:56:15 PARKING
8/20/09 10:56:16 RATIO FROM 5.2 PER THOUSAND AND
8/20/09 10:56:17 SORT OF A BACKGROUND HISTORY AS
8/20/09 10:56:20 TO WHY WE THINK THIS PARTICULAR
8/20/09 10:56:22 PROJECT BEING A CONTROLLED SITE
8/20/09 10:56:24 PLAN WITH LIMITED ACCESS AND
8/20/09 10:56:25 TYPICAL CONTROLS OF PARKING IN
8/20/09 10:56:27 THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHY WE
8/20/09 10:56:30 BELIEVE THIS PARKING RATIO WAS
8/20/09 10:56:30 IN THE PETITION.
8/20/09 10:56:31 AS I INDICATED IN THE LAST
8/20/09 10:56:32 MEETING WE HAVE HAD NUMEROUS
8/20/09 10:56:34 MEETINGS AT THE COMMUNITY IN
8/20/09 10:56:36 TERMS OF ATTEMPTING TO
8/20/09 10:56:38 UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS THAT
8/20/09 10:56:39 WERE RAISED IN THE LEADERSHIP
8/20/09 10:56:42 MEETINGS AND
8/20/09 10:56:45 THE
8/20/09 10:56:48 GROUP
8/20/09 10:56:51 MEETINGS
8/20/09 10:56:53 . THE PETITIONER APPLICANT IS
8/20/09 10:56:54 HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND
8/20/09 10:56:56 WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER
8/20/09 10:56:58 QUESTIONS COUNCIL MAY HAVE BUT
8/20/09 10:57:00 WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
8/20/09 10:57:03 CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF
8/20/09 10:57:06 THE PLAN
8/20/09 10:57:09 >> MICHAEL YATES, I HAVE A
8/20/09 10:57:12 LITTLE HANDOUT
8/20/09 10:57:18 FOR YOU
8/20/09 10:57:25 .
8/20/09 10:57:26 >> AT THE LAST COUNCIL HEARING
8/20/09 10:57:27 WE WERE ASKED ABOUT THE PARKING
8/20/09 10:57:30 RATE AND THE HISTORY OF
8/20/09 10:57:31 THE
8/20/09 10:57:32 PARKING RATE AND WHAT IT SHOULD
8/20/09 10:57:34 BE FOR MEDICAL OFFICE BASED ON
8/20/09 10:57:35 SOME HISTORY.
8/20/09 10:57:38 WE DID
8/20/09 10:57:40 A LITTLE RESEARCH,
8/20/09 10:57:41 TALKED TO MIKE CALLOWAY TO
8/20/09 10:57:44 WHERE THE CITY CAME ONE
8/20/09 10:57:45 THE
8/20/09 10:57:46 ORIGINAL SIX PER THOUSAND WHICH
8/20/09 10:57:49 WAS BASE
8/20/09 10:57:51 ED ON A SURVEY THROUGHOUT THE
8/20/09 10:57:52 UNITED STATES IN 2008 WHICH
8/20/09 10:57:55 CAME OUT TO A PARKING RATE OF
8/20/09 10:57:57 5.6 PER THOUSAND.
8/20/09 10:57:59 COUNCIL AT THAT TIME AND
8/20/09 10:58:01 COUNCIL UPPED IT TO SIX AND
8/20/09 10:58:04 THAT'S WHERE THE 6 PER
8/20/09 10:58:07 THOUSAND
8/20/09 10:58:13 CAME FROM AND THERE WERE FOUR
8/20/09 10:58:15 MEDICAL BUILDINGS CONTAINED IN
8/20/09 10:58:17 THE IDD JOURNAL WHICH IS A
8/20/09 10:58:18 STANDARD PUBLICATION FOR
8/20/09 10:58:20 ENGINEERS AND THEY SAY 15
8/20/09 10:58:22 MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS
8/20/09 10:58:23 THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES
8/20/09 10:58:26 AND AS A RESULT OF THAT STUDY
8/20/09 10:58:29 THEY SAY JUST THE
8/20/09 10:58:30 PARKING
8/20/09 10:58:33 DEMAND AND AS A
8/20/09 10:58:34 RESULT THE 85th
8/20/09 10:58:37 PER TILE DEMAND
8/20/09 10:58:37 WAS 4.21 SPACES
8/20/09 10:58:38 PER THOUSAND AND THAT'S HOW
8/20/09 10:58:41 MANY ARE NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE
8/20/09 10:58:44 THE PARKING.
8/20/09 10:58:47 THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS 4.5
8/20/09 10:58:48 PER
8/20/09 10:58:51 THOUSAND, TO SUFFICIENTLY
8/20/09 10:58:54 COVER
8/20/09 10:58:55 THAT.
8/20/09 10:58:56 AND ALL THAT THEY HAVE STUDIED
8/20/09 10:58:58 ONLY TWO DEMAND GREATER THAN 5
8/20/09 10:58:58 PER THOUSAND.
8/20/09 10:59:01 WITH THIS DATA WE
8/20/09 10:59:02 FEEL THAT 5.2
8/20/09 10:59:04 THAT WE'RE REQUESTING SHOULD BE
8/20/09 10:59:07 MORE THAN SUFFICIENT TO
8/20/09 10:59:09 COVER
8/20/09 10:59:12 THE DEMAND FOR
8/20/09 10:59:18 THIS USE .
8/20/09 10:59:21 >> OKAY, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH
8/20/09 10:59:21 TAMPA?
8/20/09 10:59:21 >> YES.
8/20/09 10:59:22 >> YOU'RE UNDER OH.
8/20/09 10:59:23 YOU THINK THE NUMBER OF COMPACT
8/20/09 10:59:24 SPACES THAT YOU HAVE INDICATED
8/20/09 10:59:27 ON THIS REFLECTS THE TRUE MIX
8/20/09 10:59:28 OF COMPACT VERSUS STANDARD,
8/20/09 10:59:30 PEOPLE PARKED IN A PARKING LOT
8/20/09 10:59:31 IN SOUTH TAMPA?
8/20/09 10:59:34 >> I HAVE
8/20/09 10:59:38 NO IDEA.
8/20/09 10:59:40 >> WE HAVE NOT VALUE WHITE YOUR
8/20/09 10:59:40 WAITED IT.
8/20/09 10:59:41 I HAVE NEVER LOOKED AT IT.
8/20/09 10:59:43 I COULDN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION
8/20/09 10:59:44 UNDER OATH WITH ANY CERTAINTY.
8/20/09 10:59:46 >> THE VAST MAJORITY OF SPACES
8/20/09 10:59:48 YOU HAVE INDICATED ARE COMPACT.
8/20/09 10:59:51 I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S
8/20/09 10:59:54 REALISTIC AT ALL AND SINCE YOU
8/20/09 10:59:56 HAVE ASKED FOR A WAVER TO GO
8/20/09 10:59:58 BEYOND A TYPICAL NUMBER YOU
8/20/09 11:00:00 DIDN'T FEEL YOU NEEDED TO LOOK
8/20/09 11:00:00 AT THAT.
8/20/09 11:00:03 >> IT WAS OUR --AS FAR AS MY
8/20/09 11:00:04 DIRECTION, WAS THE SITE
8/20/09 11:00:07 EVALUATION OF THE PARKING RATE
8/20/09 11:00:09 AND WHETHER THERE ARE
8/20/09 11:00:10 SUFFICIENT SPACES.
8/20/09 11:00:13 >> DON'T YOU THINK COMPACT
8/20/09 11:00:15 VERSUS STANDARD IS PART OF
8/20/09 11:00:15 BEING REALISTIC.
8/20/09 11:00:17 >> I DID NOT LOOK --THE CODE
8/20/09 11:00:20 ALLOWS FOR UP TO 65
8/20/09 11:00:20 PERCENT.
8/20/09 11:00:24 BUT I MEAN WE DID NOT
8/20/09 11:00:24 DO A
8/20/09 11:00:25 STUDY OF SOUTH TAMPA.
8/20/09 11:00:28 I CAN'T TELL YOU THE
8/20/09 11:00:29 HISTORY OR
8/20/09 11:00:30 ANY PERCENTAGES WITH ANY --I
8/20/09 11:00:32 HAVE NEVER STUDIED IT OR LOOKED
8/20/09 11:00:33 AT IT.
8/20/09 11:00:33 >> MR. CHAIRMAN?
8/20/09 11:00:34 >> IF WE APPROVE IT AND THEY
8/20/09 11:00:36 BUILD IT AND IT'S A DISASTER DO
8/20/09 11:00:39 WE HAVE ANY ABILITY TO MAKE
8/20/09 11:00:42 THEM GO BACK AND
8/20/09 11:00:43 RESTRIPE?
8/20/09 11:00:44 >> LEGAL?
8/20/09 11:00:47 >> I WOULD THINK NOT.
8/20/09 11:00:50 THEY'RE REQUESTING A WAVER
8/20/09 11:00:50 AND
8/20/09 11:00:51 UPON GRANTING OF THE WAVER FOR
8/20/09 11:00:51 THAT --
8/20/09 11:00:53 >> I JUST HAVE TO SAY AND I'M
8/20/09 11:00:54 SAYING THIS AS A HEALTH CARE
8/20/09 11:00:55 CONSUMER.
8/20/09 11:00:57 I HAVE TWO KIDS AND I GO TO A
8/20/09 11:00:59 --I HAVE BEEN TO A LOT OF
8/20/09 11:01:00 DOCTORS, I DON'T THINK THAT
8/20/09 11:01:02 WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS
8/20/09 11:01:03 REALISTIC.
8/20/09 11:01:04 RATHER THAN VOTE AGAINST THIS
8/20/09 11:01:06 WHAT YOU'D LIKE YOU TO DO IS
8/20/09 11:01:07 TAKE A CONTINOUS FOR ANOTHER
8/20/09 11:01:08 TWO WEEKS OR WHATEVER, HOWEVER
8/20/09 11:01:11 LONG IT WOULD TAKE YOU TO GO
8/20/09 11:01:14 AND COUNT BECAUSE I'M THINKING
8/20/09 11:01:17 I'D RATHER HAVE FEWER SPACES
8/20/09 11:01:19 THAT ARE STANDARD SIZE BASED ON
8/20/09 11:01:20 THE REALITY AND I CAN SUGGEST A
8/20/09 11:01:21 SPECIFIC MEDICAL OFFICE PARKING
8/20/09 11:01:24 LOT TO LOOK IN BUT I THINK WHAT
8/20/09 11:01:25 YOU'RE PROPOSING IS NOT
8/20/09 11:01:26 REALISTIC AND IT WILL
8/20/09 11:01:27 INCONVENIENCE THE NEIGHBORS
8/20/09 11:01:28 BECAUSE THEY'LL BE PARKED ALL
8/20/09 11:01:29 OVER THE CITY STREETS BECAUSE
8/20/09 11:01:32 THEY WON'T FIT IN
8/20/09 11:01:32 THE
8/20/09 11:01:33 STRUCTURE.
8/20/09 11:01:35 >> I'LL LET MY CLIENT ADDRESS
8/20/09 11:01:37 THAT.
8/20/09 11:01:38 >> I HAVE BEEN SWORN N I'LL TRY
8/20/09 11:01:40 TO PUT THIS SITE PLAN UP AND
8/20/09 11:01:43 TRY TO
8/20/09 11:01:46 ANSWER
8/20/09 11:01:49 COUNCIL'S
8/20/09 11:01:53 QUESTIONS
8/20/09 11:01:58 BASICALLY THERE'S

8/20/09 11:07:54 >>> WHERE YOU HAVE THE LEFT
8/20/09 11:07:57 TURN ONLY INTO MELVILLE, I
8/20/09 11:08:00 COMPARE THAT TO THE EGRESS AT
8/20/09 11:08:03 HOME DEPOT ON
8/20/09 11:08:03 SPREWS.
8/20/09 11:08:04 THAT'S BEEN A FAILURE BECAUSE
8/20/09 11:08:06 IT'S NOT HIGH ENOUGH.
8/20/09 11:08:08 NOW THE CITY AS I UNDERSTAND IT
8/20/09 11:08:11 IS GOING TO WORK TO PUT
8/20/09 11:08:13 THOSE
8/20/09 11:08:15 PADDLES SO THAT CARS CAN'T GO
8/20/09 11:08:15 OVER IT.
8/20/09 11:08:18 I WOULD SUGGEST YOU DO THE
8/20/09 11:08:18 SAME.
8/20/09 11:08:21 >> I'M ALL FOR WORKING WITH
8/20/09 11:08:24 CITY STAFF AND MAKING SURE
8/20/09 11:08:26 EVERYTHING IS IN COMPLIANCE.
8/20/09 11:08:27 ONE THING.
8/20/09 11:08:30 NOT THAT I
8/20/09 11:08:31 NEED TO.
8/20/09 11:08:34 BUT I WENT ON BUSINESS HOURS
8/20/09 11:08:37 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 9-5:00
8/20/09 11:08:39 AND JUST LOOKED AT HOW BAD THE
8/20/09 11:08:42 TRAFFIC CONCERNS WERE ON THE
8/20/09 11:08:43 MELVILLE SITE.
8/20/09 11:08:45 EVERYBODY IS GONE.
8/20/09 11:08:47 THERE'S BARELY ANY TRAFFIC
8/20/09 11:08:47 RIGHT THERE.
8/20/09 11:08:50 I BROUGHT THE BUILDING DOWN
8/20/09 11:08:52 1,400 SQUARE FEET AND THAT
8/20/09 11:08:54 ALLEVIATES 9 PARKING SPOTS.
8/20/09 11:08:57 I ALSO LOOKED ON OFF
8/20/09 11:08:57 STREET
8/20/09 11:08:57 PARKING.
8/20/09 11:08:58 THERE'S NOBODY USING THE
8/20/09 11:08:58 STREET.
8/20/09 11:09:01 TWO OF THE DAYS THERE WERE TWO
8/20/09 11:09:03 CARS ON THE WHOLE FIRST TWO
8/20/09 11:09:03 BLOCKS.
8/20/09 11:09:04 I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT MYSELF.
8/20/09 11:09:05 I'VE BEEN OUT OF TOWN FOR THE
8/20/09 11:09:07 LAST WEEK AND A HALF.
8/20/09 11:09:10 I WAS GOING TO TAKE
8/20/09 11:09:13 SOME
8/20/09 11:09:16 PICTURES. .
8/20/09 11:09:17 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 11:09:20 >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WE
8/20/09 11:09:21 ARE A CITY.
8/20/09 11:09:24 WE DO HAVE THE SUBURBAN
8/20/09 11:09:26 PARKING
8/20/09 11:09:26 CODE.
8/20/09 11:09:28 AS HE STATED, HOPEFULLY WE'LL
8/20/09 11:09:30 HAVE SMALLER CARS AND LESS
8/20/09 11:09:33 PEOPLE DRIVING TOO, WHICH WOULD
8/20/09 11:09:33 BE GREAT.
8/20/09 11:09:36 I JUST THINK THAT WE
8/20/09 11:09:37 CAN'T --
8/20/09 11:09:40 WE TREAT THESE --THIS IS
8/20/09 11:09:41 A
8/20/09 11:09:43 COMMERCIAL AREA PERFECT FOR A
8/20/09 11:09:43 DOCTOR'S OFFICE.
8/20/09 11:09:45 THERE ARE LOTS OF THEM THERE.
8/20/09 11:09:48 IT SHOULDN'T
8/20/09 11:09:51 BE
8/20/09 11:09:57 A PROBLEM.
8/20/09 11:10:03 IF WE
8/20/09 11:10:06 WANT MORE DONE, WE WANT
8/20/09 11:10:06 TO PROGRESS.
8/20/09 11:10:08 WE HAVE TO BE MORE REASONABLE
8/20/09 11:10:11 ABOUT OUR
8/20/09 11:10:12 PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
8/20/09 11:10:13 I THINK PARKING FOR THIS
8/20/09 11:10:16 PROJECT SHOULD
8/20/09 11:10:23 BE FINE.
8/20/09 11:10:29 >> WE'LL GO WITH IT
8/20/09 11:10:30 AND
8/20/09 11:10:31 HOPEFULLY IT WILL WORK.
8/20/09 11:10:33 >> WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE
8/20/09 11:10:34 PUBLIC AT THIS TIME.
8/20/09 11:10:37 >> ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC
8/20/09 11:10:40 WISH
8/20/09 11:10:43 TO SPEAK?
8/20/09 11:10:46 >>
8/20/09 11:10:49 GOOD MORNING. I
8/20/09 11:10:51 APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING HERE
8/20/09 11:10:52 THE FIRST TIME AROUND.
8/20/09 11:10:55 A MEDICAL ISSUE CAME UP AND
8/20/09 11:10:56 PREVENTED ME BEING HERE.
8/20/09 11:10:59 BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING,
8/20/09 11:11:02 THE
8/20/09 11:11:03 NEIGHBORHOOD HAS MET WITH THEM
8/20/09 11:11:04 A NUMBER OF TIMES.
8/20/09 11:11:07 THEY HAVE MADE A LOT OF CHANGES
8/20/09 11:11:09 BEFORE THEY EVER EVEN PRESENTED
8/20/09 11:11:12 ANYTHING TO
8/20/09 11:11:13 THIS COUNCIL.
8/20/09 11:11:16 ONE OF OUR
8/20/09 11:11:17 BIG CONCERNS, OF
8/20/09 11:11:19 COURSE, HAS ALWAYS BEEN PARKING
8/20/09 11:11:22 AND ALSO THE
8/20/09 11:11:25 TRAFFIC GOING DOWN
8/20/09 11:11:25 MELVILLE.
8/20/09 11:11:26 THE CHANGES HERE SEEM TO
8/20/09 11:11:29 ADDRESS BOTH OF
8/20/09 11:11:29 THOSE.
8/20/09 11:11:32 I KNOW PARKING IS A BIG ISSUE,
8/20/09 11:11:34 BUT I'VE SEEN YOU FOLKS WAVE
8/20/09 11:11:37 PARKING FOR THE BARS AND FOR A
8/20/09 11:11:39 MEDICAL OFFICE IT WOULD SEEM
8/20/09 11:11:41 LIKE SAUCE FOR THE GOOSE IS
8/20/09 11:11:42 SAUCE FOR THE GOOSE.
8/20/09 11:11:45 WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA
8/20/09 11:11:46 FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
8/20/09 11:11:49 AS FAR AS THE PARKING ISSUES
8/20/09 11:11:52 ARE CONCERNED, KEEP IN
8/20/09 11:11:52 MIND
8/20/09 11:11:55 THAT'S
8/20/09 11:11:57 ALSO WITHIN THE RESIDENT
8/20/09 11:11:58 ONLY PARKING AFTER 6 P.M.
8/20/09 11:12:01 IF PEOPLE ARE PARKING ON
8/20/09 11:12:02 OUR
8/20/09 11:12:03 STREET, THEN OF COURSE, THEY'LL
8/20/09 11:12:06 GET A NOTE FROM THE CITY AND AN
8/20/09 11:12:08 OPPORTUNITY TO CONTRIBUTE TO
8/20/09 11:12:10 THE DEFICIT.
8/20/09 11:12:12 BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING AS IT'S
8/20/09 11:12:13 BEEN AMENDED NOW, THE
8/20/09 11:12:15 NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY MUCH IN
8/20/09 11:12:18 FAVOR OF THIS
8/20/09 11:12:19 PROJECT.
8/20/09 11:12:21 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 11:12:24 THANK
8/20/09 11:12:26 YOU.
8/20/09 11:12:26 ANY QUESTIONS?
8/20/09 11:12:28 >> NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
8/20/09 11:12:30 WE HAVE HAD SOME LIVELY
8/20/09 11:12:32 DISCUSSION ON THIS.
8/20/09 11:12:34 WE THINK THIS IS A UNIQUE
8/20/09 11:12:35 ENOUGH OF A PROJECT THAT THE
8/20/09 11:12:37 NUMBERS ARE SUFFICIENT.
8/20/09 11:12:37 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:12:38 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
8/20/09 11:12:39 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 11:12:42 >> BEFORE WE DO
8/20/09 11:12:44 THAT, IF I CAN
8/20/09 11:12:44 ASK.
8/20/09 11:12:46 DID YOU HAVE SOME
8/20/09 11:12:47 CLARIFICATIONS ON THE RECORD TO
8/20/09 11:12:50 BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD?
8/20/09 11:12:53 >> I THINK HE WANTED
8/20/09 11:12:54 TO SPEAK
8/20/09 11:12:55 TO THAT.
8/20/09 11:12:56 IT'S TO THE BUILDING AT 170.
8/20/09 11:12:59 IT SHOWED THE NORTHERN SETBACK
8/20/09 11:12:59 OF 145.
8/20/09 11:13:01 THEY DO WANT TO KEEP THE
8/20/09 11:13:03 BUILDING AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE.
8/20/09 11:13:05 I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT 20
8/20/09 11:13:06 FOOT WAS IN THERE FOR A
8/20/09 11:13:08 POSSIBLE FUTURE ENGINEERING
8/20/09 11:13:11 ISSUES THAT MIGHT HAVE THEM
8/20/09 11:13:12 SHIFTED, WHICH IS FINE.
8/20/09 11:13:15 WE DO RUN INTO THAT.
8/20/09 11:13:16 SOMETIMES WHEN IT'S SO CLOSE
8/20/09 11:13:18 AND THEY GO THROUGH PERMITTING,
8/20/09 11:13:19 THEY HAVE TO SHIFT THE BUILDING
8/20/09 11:13:21 A LITTLE BIT.
8/20/09 11:13:24 IF WE DON'T ALLOW A LITTLE
8/20/09 11:13:25 FLEXIBILITY, SOMETIMES THAT
8/20/09 11:13:25 BECOMES AN ISSUE.
8/20/09 11:13:28 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
8/20/09 11:13:29 WE'RE
8/20/09 11:13:30 CONSISTENT.
8/20/09 11:13:33 >> FOR
8/20/09 11:13:35 THE RECORD, WE WILL MAKE
8/20/09 11:13:37 THE PLAN CONSISTENT WITH THE
8/20/09 11:13:37 DATA TABLE.
8/20/09 11:13:38 THAT INDICATES 145 FEET.
8/20/09 11:13:40 THERE WAS CONCERN AT THE LAST
8/20/09 11:13:41 HEARING THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T
8/20/09 11:13:43 SET A LIMIT TO THE NORTHERN
8/20/09 11:13:45 PROPERTY LINE.
8/20/09 11:13:46 I BELIEVE THE FOOTPRINT IS
8/20/09 11:13:49 CORRECT WITH THE 170-FOOT
8/20/09 11:13:49 SETBACK.
8/20/09 11:13:50 BUT ABBI IS CORRECT.
8/20/09 11:13:53 WE MAY NEED AN
8/20/09 11:13:56 ADJUSTMENT IN
8/20/09 11:13:56 FINAL ENGINEERING.
8/20/09 11:13:58 UNLESS THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH
8/20/09 11:14:00 145 FOOT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT
8/20/09 11:14:00 CONSISTENT.
8/20/09 11:14:03 IT GIVES US A LITTLE LEEWAY.
8/20/09 11:14:05 >> IS THAT ACCEPTABLE?
8/20/09 11:14:05 >> YEAH.
8/20/09 11:14:08 I THINK THAT WOULD BE FINE.
8/20/09 11:14:08 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 11:14:09 >> ONE OTHER QUESTION.
8/20/09 11:14:12 YOU ALSO ADDED AN ADDITIONAL
8/20/09 11:14:13 WAIVER.
8/20/09 11:14:14 >> YES.
8/20/09 11:14:16 WITH COUNCIL'S MOTION, IF YOU
8/20/09 11:14:19 WOULD REFER THEN TO THE CHANGE
8/20/09 11:14:22 IN THE --ACTUALLY, WE DON'T
8/20/09 11:14:25 NEED ANYTHING ADDITIONAL.
8/20/09 11:14:27 IT CAN STAY THE WAY IT IS.
8/20/09 11:14:29 THE OTHER TWO WOULD BE THE
8/20/09 11:14:31 ADDITION OF THE WAIVER FOR THE
8/20/09 11:14:32 COMPACT AND ALSO THAT THEY
8/20/09 11:14:35 STILL NEED TO MENTION THE
8/20/09 11:14:36 ACTUAL SITE.
8/20/09 11:14:38 THOSE TWO MODIFICATIONS IF YOU
8/20/09 11:14:39 WOULD PLEASE.
8/20/09 11:14:40 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 11:14:42 MOTION TO CLOSE.
8/20/09 11:14:45 ALL
8/20/09 11:14:47 IN FAVOR.
8/20/09 11:14:49 AYE .
8/20/09 11:14:51 >>> LAST TIME I EXPRESSED
8/20/09 11:14:54 CONCERN
8/20/09 11:14:57 ABOUT THE
8/20/09 11:15:04 EGRESS.
8/20/09 11:15:07 THEY TRIED TO RELIEVE TOM
8/20/09 11:15:07 SOME
8/20/09 11:15:08 OF THE TRAFFIC.
8/20/09 11:15:10 THE FACT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE
8/20/09 11:15:12 DIRECTED AS IT LEAVES MELVILLE
8/20/09 11:15:14 AND THEY HAVE ADDED THAT ON THE
8/20/09 11:15:17 ALLEY SIDE ALLOWS ME TO SUPPORT
8/20/09 11:15:18 THE PROJECT.
8/20/09 11:15:19 I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT
8/20/09 11:15:22 YOU'RE GOING FORWARD WITH
8/20/09 11:15:27 THIS.
8/20/09 11:15:30 >> COUNCIL.
8/20/09 11:15:39 >> I MOVE IN
8/20/09 11:15:40 ORDINANCE BEING
8/20/09 11:15:43 PRESENTED FOR CONSIDERATION AND
8/20/09 11:15:45 INCLUDING THE --FIRST READING
8/20/09 11:15:47 CONSIDERATION INCLUDING THE
8/20/09 11:15:50 MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE STATED
8/20/09 11:15:53 ABOUT THE DISTANCE AND
8/20/09 11:15:56 THE
8/20/09 11:16:01 COMPACT SPACES.
8/20/09 11:16:04 ON ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
8/20/09 11:16:05 FOR FIRST READING FOR THE
8/20/09 11:16:07 GENERAL VICINITY OF 1919 SWAN
8/20/09 11:16:09 AVENUE AND 606 SOUTH MELVILLE
8/20/09 11:16:11 AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
8/20/09 11:16:13 FLORIDA, AND DESCRIBED IN
8/20/09 11:16:15 SECTION ONE FROM ZONING
8/20/09 11:16:17 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD
8/20/09 11:16:18 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND
8/20/09 11:16:21 MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED
8/20/09 11:16:24 DEVELOPMENT OFFICE
8/20/09 11:16:25 MEDICAL
8/20/09 11:16:25 PROVIDING.
8/20/09 11:16:28 >> ALL IN FAVOR
8/20/09 11:16:30 SAY AYE.
8/20/09 11:16:30 >> AYE.
8/20/09 11:16:33 >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8/20/09 11:16:34 SECOND READING WILL BE HELD
8/20/09 11:16:37 SEPTEMBER 3rd AT 9:30 A.M.
8/20/09 11:16:40 >>
8/20/09 11:16:43 ITEM 96.
8/20/09 11:16:49 >> GOOD
8/20/09 11:16:50 MORNING.
8/20/09 11:16:51 THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
8/20/09 11:16:53 TODAY I'M HERE FOR THE ADDRESS
8/20/09 11:16:56 OF 1811 WEST
8/20/09 11:16:56 HILLS AVENUE.
8/20/09 11:16:58 IF YOU LOOK ON THE EARL MOE, I
8/20/09 11:17:01 HAVE SOME
8/20/09 11:17:04 PHOTOS SHOWING
8/20/09 11:17:05 PRIOR
8/20/09 11:17:07 REHABILITATION AND AFTER
8/20/09 11:17:07 REHABILITATION.
8/20/09 11:17:09 THE STRUCTURE HAD INAPPROPRIATE
8/20/09 11:17:12 VINYL SIDING AND
8/20/09 11:17:13 SOME SHUTTERS
8/20/09 11:17:16 THAT WERE NOT PART OF
8/20/09 11:17:17 THE
8/20/09 11:17:17 FEATURES.
8/20/09 11:17:20 ON THE BOTTOM YOU HAVE
8/20/09 11:17:21 AFTER.
8/20/09 11:17:22 THERE WAS AN ADDITION THROUGH
8/20/09 11:17:25 THE CERTIFICATE OF
8/20/09 11:17:26 APPROPRIATENESS.
8/20/09 11:17:29 THIS IS A CLOSER
8/20/09 11:17:30 SHOT.
8/20/09 11:17:33 YOU CAN SEE
8/20/09 11:17:34 AFTER.
8/20/09 11:17:35 THROUGH THE PROCESS OF REMOVING
8/20/09 11:17:35 SOME OF THE THE INAPPROPRIATE
8/20/09 11:17:36 SIDING, THEY FOUND AN OPENING
8/20/09 11:17:38 HERE THAT SHOWED THE ORIGINAL
8/20/09 11:17:40 OPENING FROM THE FRONT PORCH.
8/20/09 11:17:42 THAT WAS REINSTALLED.
8/20/09 11:17:43 AS YOU MOVE AROUND THE
8/20/09 11:17:46 STRUCTURE TO THE
8/20/09 11:17:47 WEST
8/20/09 11:17:50 ELEVATION, THIS PORTION HERE
8/20/09 11:17:53 WAS THE ADDITION WHICH
8/20/09 11:17:53 WAS
8/20/09 11:17:55 APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION.
8/20/09 11:17:57 MOVING TO THE INTERIOR, A
8/20/09 11:18:00 COUPLE
8/20/09 11:18:02 MORE PHOTOS.
8/20/09 11:18:05 ON THE TOP THAT'S
8/20/09 11:18:08 PRIOR TO
8/20/09 11:18:08 REHABILITATION.
8/20/09 11:18:10 THE CASING WAS ORIGINAL AND
8/20/09 11:18:10 RETAINED.
8/20/09 11:18:13 ON THE LOWER PICTURES, YOU SEE
8/20/09 11:18:16 THE WAYNES COATING WAS
8/20/09 11:18:17 REINSTALLED.
8/20/09 11:18:20 YOU SEE THE WOOD FLOORINGS THAT
8/20/09 11:18:21 WERE REFINISHED.
8/20/09 11:18:24 LASTLY, JUST ONE
8/20/09 11:18:25 MORE SHOT.
8/20/09 11:18:26 LOOKING AT THE INTERIOR OF HOW
8/20/09 11:18:28 THE FLOOR WAS FLOATED HERE SOME
8/20/09 11:18:31 TIME IN THE
8/20/09 11:18:34 60s WITH
8/20/09 11:18:37 A SAMIC
8/20/09 11:18:37 TILE.
8/20/09 11:18:39 THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
8/20/09 11:18:42 SECRETARY STANDARDS
8/20/09 11:18:44 AND
8/20/09 11:18:44 REHABILITATION.
8/20/09 11:18:47 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:18:48 >> COUNCIL.
8/20/09 11:18:51 ANYONE WISH TO ADDRESS FROM THE
8/20/09 11:18:53 PUBLIC?
8/20/09 11:18:53 >> AYE.
8/20/09 11:18:55 >> THIS IS THE HIGH POINT OF
8/20/09 11:18:55 OUR MORNING.
8/20/09 11:18:57 IT'S SO EXCITING TO SEE PEOPLE
8/20/09 11:19:00 IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR MAKING
8/20/09 11:19:02 THESE INVESTMENTS AND IMPROVING
8/20/09 11:19:03 OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND BRINGING
8/20/09 11:19:04 BACK THE CHARACTER.
8/20/09 11:19:07 YOU AND YOUR STAFF ARE TO
8/20/09 11:19:07 BE
8/20/09 11:19:08 COMPLIMENTED.
8/20/09 11:19:09 WHENEVER YOU BRING IT TO US,
8/20/09 11:19:11 IT'S SUCH A JOY TO LOOK AT
8/20/09 11:19:12 WHAT'S BEING ACCOMPLISHED.
8/20/09 11:19:14 >> A LOT OF HARD WORK, BUT IT'S
8/20/09 11:19:17 WORKING WITH THE OWNERS AS
8/20/09 11:19:17 WELL.
8/20/09 11:19:18 THIS OWNER WAS ENJOYABLE TO
8/20/09 11:19:19 WORK WITH.
8/20/09 11:19:22 THEY HAD PRESERVATION IN MIND
8/20/09 11:19:25 FROM THE
8/20/09 11:19:25 ONSET.
8/20/09 11:19:28 >> I'D LIKE TO MOVE AN
8/20/09 11:19:31 ORDINANCE APPROVING A
8/20/09 11:19:33 PROPERTY
8/20/09 11:19:35 TAX EXEMPTION RELATIVE OF
8/20/09 11:19:38 CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED
8/20/09 11:19:39 BY TERRI
8/20/09 11:19:40 BRIGHTSMAN LOCATED AT WEST
8/20/09 11:19:43 HILLS AVENUE TAMPA,
8/20/09 11:19:44 FLORIDA.
8/20/09 11:19:45 BASED ON FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR
8/20/09 11:19:48 NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISE
8/20/09 11:19:51 SO, PROVIDING FOR SEVERAL
8/20/09 11:19:53 REPEAL OF ORDINANCES AND
8/20/09 11:19:55 CONFLICT PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
8/20/09 11:19:55 DATE.
8/20/09 11:19:58 >> SECOND BY COUNCILMAN.
8/20/09 11:20:01 ALL IN
8/20/09 11:20:01 FAVOR.
8/20/09 11:20:01 >> AYE.
8/20/09 11:20:04 >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8/20/09 11:20:06 SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE
8/20/09 11:20:09 WILL BE SEPTEMBER 3rd AT 9:30
8/20/09 11:20:09 A.M.
8/20/09 11:20:12 >>> WE MOVE TO THE
8/20/09 11:20:14 10:30 ITEMS.
8/20/09 11:20:17 THOSE ITEMS ARE BY
8/20/09 11:20:17 APPOINTMENTS.
8/20/09 11:20:19 WE'RE GOING TO ASK THE CLERK TO
8/20/09 11:20:22 COME FORWARD AT
8/20/09 11:20:23 THIS TIME.
8/20/09 11:20:26 >>> GOOD MORNING.
8/20/09 11:20:26 SANDY MARSHALL.
8/20/09 11:20:28 DEPUTY CITY CLERK.
8/20/09 11:20:31 I'M HERE TO ADDRESS ITEM 97 TO
8/20/09 11:20:32 THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW
8/20/09 11:20:32 COMMISSION.
8/20/09 11:20:33 WE HAVE THREE POSITIONS THAT
8/20/09 11:20:36 WILL BE EXPIRED ON
8/20/09 11:20:39 AUGUST
8/20/09 11:20:41 23rd.
8/20/09 11:20:44 REAPPOINTMENTS WOULD BE FOR A
8/20/09 11:20:45 3-YEAR TERM.
8/20/09 11:20:47 WE HAVE THREE APPLICATIONS.
8/20/09 11:20:48 THOSE ARE CURRENTLY FROM THE
8/20/09 11:20:50 CURRENT MEMBERS SERVING ON THE
8/20/09 11:20:52 THE BOARD WHICH ARE JULIE
8/20/09 11:20:55 BROWN, KAREN
8/20/09 11:20:58 DAVIS, AND
8/20/09 11:21:00 BETHIZEEN FELLED.
8/20/09 11:21:01 SHE PROVIDED A LETTER SAYING
8/20/09 11:21:04 SHE COULDN'T BE HERE ON THIS
8/20/09 11:21:04 DATE.
8/20/09 11:21:05 JULIE BROWN AND KAREN DAVIS ARE
8/20/09 11:21:07 IN THE AUDIENCE.
8/20/09 11:21:09 >> THOSE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE
8/20/09 11:21:10 THAT APPLIED?
8/20/09 11:21:11 >> THAT'S ALL THAT HAS APPLIED.
8/20/09 11:21:14 >> BUT THEY
8/20/09 11:21:15 ARE GREAT.
8/20/09 11:21:17 >> THEY JUST WANT TO STAND AND
8/20/09 11:21:17 BE RECOGNIZED.
8/20/09 11:21:20 THEY DON'T HAVE TO GIVE A
8/20/09 11:21:24 SPEECH.
8/20/09 11:21:24 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:21:27 >> I MOVE ALL
8/20/09 11:21:30 THREE.
8/20/09 11:21:33 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 11:21:39 >> ALL
8/20/09 11:21:42 IN
8/20/09 11:21:42 FAVOR.
8/20/09 11:21:43 >> AYE.
8/20/09 11:21:46 >> SANDY MARSHALL TO ADDRESS
8/20/09 11:21:49 NUMBER 98 ON
8/20/09 11:21:49 THE COMMISSION.
8/20/09 11:21:52 WE HAD RECEIVED ONE
8/20/09 11:21:52 APPLICATION
8/20/09 11:21:55 FOR THIS VACANCY
8/20/09 11:21:56 THAT EXPIRED
8/20/09 11:21:59 ON
8/20/09 11:22:00 JANUARY 31, 2009.
8/20/09 11:22:02 WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT THE
8/20/09 11:22:04 INDIVIDUAL IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO
8/20/09 11:22:04 BE APPOINTED.
8/20/09 11:22:07 WE WILL BE READVERTISING
8/20/09 11:22:08 THAT
8/20/09 11:22:08 POSITION.
8/20/09 11:22:09 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:22:12 I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF
8/20/09 11:22:14 APPLICANTS FOR OTHER OPENINGS.
8/20/09 11:22:17 I HOPE THAT IF THEY DON'T GET
8/20/09 11:22:20 SELECTED FOR
8/20/09 11:22:20 SOMETHING ELSE,
8/20/09 11:22:21 THEY WOULD BE NOTIFIED.
8/20/09 11:22:22 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:22:24 I'M NOT TRYING TO THROW A CURVE
8/20/09 11:22:27 BALL INTO THIS PROCESS, BUT
8/20/09 11:22:29 JUST FOR CLARITY, IS IT LEGAL
8/20/09 11:22:32 TO HAVE A CITY EMPLOYEE SIT
8/20/09 11:22:32 ON
8/20/09 11:22:32 ANOTHER BOARD?
8/20/09 11:22:35 >> THAT'S
8/20/09 11:22:37 COMING UP LATER ON
8/20/09 11:22:40 ITEM NUMBER
8/20/09 11:22:45 101.
8/20/09 11:22:45 >> OH.
8/20/09 11:22:45 OKAY.
8/20/09 11:22:48 >> SANDY MARSHALL.
8/20/09 11:22:50 NUMBER 99 PERTAINING TO THE
8/20/09 11:22:51 VACANCY ON THE CIVIL SERVICE
8/20/09 11:22:51 BOARD.
8/20/09 11:22:54 WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY
8/20/09 11:22:57 RESIGNATIONS, SO WE WILL BE
8/20/09 11:22:58 READVERTISING THAT POSITION.
8/20/09 11:23:01 >> WITH REGARD TO 98 AND 99, DO
8/20/09 11:23:04 YOU JUST WANT TO NOT TAKE ANY
8/20/09 11:23:07 ACTION
8/20/09 11:23:09 TODAY.
8/20/09 11:23:09 >> CORRECT.
8/20/09 11:23:12 ON ITEM NUMBER 100.
8/20/09 11:23:14 IT'S PERTAINING TO FOUR
8/20/09 11:23:17 VACANCIES ON THE ENTERPRISE
8/20/09 11:23:19 ZONE DUE TO RESIGNATION AND
8/20/09 11:23:20 TERMS EXPIRING.
8/20/09 11:23:22 AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE ONLY
8/20/09 11:23:23 RECEIVED ONE APPLICATION FROM
8/20/09 11:23:25 JAMES PAUL EXPRESSING AN
8/20/09 11:23:26 INTEREST IN BEING REAPPOINTED.
8/20/09 11:23:29 I
8/20/09 11:23:32 HAVE NOTIFIED
8/20/09 11:23:32 HIM.
8/20/09 11:23:35 IF YOU'D LIKE HIM TO
8/20/09 11:23:38 COME
8/20/09 11:23:38 FORWARD.
8/20/09 11:23:41 IF HE'S APPOINTED, YOU
8/20/09 11:23:43 NEED TO
8/20/09 11:23:43 DETERMINE WHICH POSITION HE
8/20/09 11:23:45 WILL BE APPOINTED TO.
8/20/09 11:23:48 >> DO YOU HAVE
8/20/09 11:23:49 A MINUTE?
8/20/09 11:23:51 >> MY NAME IS JAMES CULT.
8/20/09 11:23:52 I'M A GRADUATE STUDENT.
8/20/09 11:23:55 I HAVE MY MASTERS IN PUBLIC
8/20/09 11:23:55 ADMINISTRATION.
8/20/09 11:23:57 THEY HAD COME TO OUR
8/20/09 11:23:59 DEVELOPMENT CLASS AND ASKED US
8/20/09 11:24:00 TO DO SOME RESEARCH.
8/20/09 11:24:02 THEY TURNED AND ASKED ME TO
8/20/09 11:24:04 APPLY FOR THE BOARD TO DO
8/20/09 11:24:06 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RESEARCH
8/20/09 11:24:08 REVIEWING PREVIOUS TAX CREDITS
8/20/09 11:24:11 AS WELL AS DEVELOPING NEW TAX
8/20/09 11:24:12 CREDITS POSSIBLY.
8/20/09 11:24:13 BEING A MEMBER OF THE ZONE, I
8/20/09 11:24:16 CAN GO TO OTHER BOARDS AND GET
8/20/09 11:24:18 SOME CONSENSUS ON WHERE THEY
8/20/09 11:24:19 FEEL THEY ARE GOING AND THEIR
8/20/09 11:24:22 EFFECT ON THE COMMUNITY.
8/20/09 11:24:22 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 11:24:23 GREAT.
8/20/09 11:24:23 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:24:26 THANK YOU FOR
8/20/09 11:24:27 APPLYING.
8/20/09 11:24:28 WE NEED A MOTION.
8/20/09 11:24:31 >> AS TO
8/20/09 11:24:37 WHICH POSITION?
8/20/09 11:24:40 >> DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE?
8/20/09 11:24:41 >> NO REAL PREFERENCE.
8/20/09 11:24:42 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 11:24:44 >> WHY DON'T WE DO ONE OF THE
8/20/09 11:24:47 ONES THAT HAVE
8/20/09 11:24:50 ALREADY EXPIRED?
8/20/09 11:24:52 >> INCLUDE THAT IN THE MOTION?
8/20/09 11:24:55 >> IS THAT
8/20/09 11:24:58 YOUR MOTION?
8/20/09 11:24:59 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 11:25:02 >> ALL
8/20/09 11:25:03 IN FAVOR.
8/20/09 11:25:03 AYE.
8/20/09 11:25:07 >> SANDY
8/20/09 11:25:07 MARSHALL.
8/20/09 11:25:09 DEPUTY CITY CLERK ITEM NUMBER
8/20/09 11:25:10 101 PERTAINING TO THE POSITION
8/20/09 11:25:12 TO THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE
8/20/09 11:25:13 EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY
8/20/09 11:25:13 COUNCIL.
8/20/09 11:25:17 THIS IS A NEWLY
8/20/09 11:25:17 CREATED BOARD.
8/20/09 11:25:20 IT'S CONSISTING OF 16
8/20/09 11:25:21 MEMBERS.
8/20/09 11:25:22 7 ARE APPOINTED BY COUNCIL.
8/20/09 11:25:25 I HAVE
8/20/09 11:25:27 PREPARED BALLOTS.
8/20/09 11:25:28 THE FIRST PERSON TO BE
8/20/09 11:25:32 INTERVIEWED WOULD BE
8/20/09 11:25:32 FRANCIS
8/20/09 11:25:33 BROOKS.
8/20/09 11:25:36 >> DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS
8/20/09 11:25:36 THAT
8/20/09 11:25:37 ISSUE?
8/20/09 11:25:38 >> ONE OF THE APPLICANTS FOR
8/20/09 11:25:42 THIS POSITION IS A CITY
8/20/09 11:25:43 EMPLOYEE.
8/20/09 11:25:44 THERE'S NO PROHIBITION.
8/20/09 11:25:44 IT'S A POLICY MATTER.
8/20/09 11:25:46 IF YOU AS A BOARD WANT TO HAVE
8/20/09 11:25:48 A CITY EMPLOYEE ON ONE OF THESE
8/20/09 11:25:50 BOARDS, IT'S AN ADVISORY BOARD.
8/20/09 11:25:52 IT WILL BE GIVING ADVICE RATHER
8/20/09 11:25:54 THAN MAKING FINAL DECISIONS.
8/20/09 11:25:55 BUT THERE'S NOTHING ON THIS
8/20/09 11:25:58 ISSUE THAT'S A CALL BY THE
8/20/09 11:26:01 CITY
8/20/09 11:26:01 COUNCIL.
8/20/09 11:26:03 >> WITH REGARD TO THAT, I DON'T
8/20/09 11:26:06 HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE CITY
8/20/09 11:26:06 EMPLOYEE.
8/20/09 11:26:08 I DON'T KNOW HOW OTHER PEOPLE
8/20/09 11:26:08 FEEL.
8/20/09 11:26:11 WE HAVE SIX APPLICANTS, BUT WE
8/20/09 11:26:14 HAVE 7
8/20/09 11:26:14 POSITIONS?
8/20/09 11:26:16 I WASN'T CLEAR.
8/20/09 11:26:18 >> SANDY MARSHALL.
8/20/09 11:26:21 YOU CURRENTLY HAVE A BALLOT
8/20/09 11:26:22 BEFORE YOU.
8/20/09 11:26:25 WE ARE LOOKING AT FILLING
8/20/09 11:26:27 THE
8/20/09 11:26:27 AFRICAN-AMERICAN POSITION.
8/20/09 11:26:30 WE HAVE THE
8/20/09 11:26:33 ETHNIC MINORITY
8/20/09 11:26:33 NONSPECIFIC.
8/20/09 11:26:35 WE ALSO HAVE THE TWO AT LARGE
8/20/09 11:26:38 FROM THE WMBE COMMUNITY WHICH
8/20/09 11:26:40 THEY ALSO QUALIFY FOR.
8/20/09 11:26:43 THEN WE HAVE POSITION
8/20/09 11:26:43 FOR
8/20/09 11:26:46 CAUCASIAN MALE WHICH IS JOSHUA
8/20/09 11:26:46 HALL.
8/20/09 11:26:48 DEPENDING ON COUNCIL, WHOEVER
8/20/09 11:26:51 GETS THE MAJORITY VOTES WILL
8/20/09 11:26:52 BE
8/20/09 11:26:55 REMOVED FROM
8/20/09 11:26:58 THE
8/20/09 11:27:00 NEXT ELECTION.
8/20/09 11:27:01 >> I HAVE AN EXTRA BALLOT.
8/20/09 11:27:04 DO I GET TO VOTE
8/20/09 11:27:05 TWICE?
8/20/09 11:27:07 >> YOU WISH.
8/20/09 11:27:09 >> I HATE TO BRING THIS UP.
8/20/09 11:27:12 I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES ANY
8/20/09 11:27:14 DIFFERENCE.
8/20/09 11:27:16 DIDN'T WE JUST DECIDE TO DO
8/20/09 11:27:16 THESE CATEGORIES?
8/20/09 11:27:18 WE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT
8/20/09 11:27:18 THIS.
8/20/09 11:27:20 >> WE DID.
8/20/09 11:27:21 >> THAT WAS OUR VOTE?
8/20/09 11:27:21 >> YEAH.
8/20/09 11:27:24 >> SORRY
8/20/09 11:27:25 TO INTERRUPT.
8/20/09 11:27:27 ONE OTHER ISSUE IS THESE WILL
8/20/09 11:27:29 BE STAGGERED TERMS.
8/20/09 11:27:32 THERE WILL BE 6 PEOPLE.
8/20/09 11:27:33 THE SUGGESTION THAT HAS BEEN
8/20/09 11:27:36 MADE WAS THAT A 1-YEAR
8/20/09 11:27:39 TERM OF
8/20/09 11:27:40 AN 18-MONTH TERM.
8/20/09 11:27:43 YOU NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON
8/20/09 11:27:44 WHICH CATEGORIES WILL BE WHICH
8/20/09 11:27:46 OF THOSE STAGGERED TERMS TO
8/20/09 11:27:49 GIVE YOU SOME CONTINUITY SO
8/20/09 11:27:51 EVERYBODY WON'T BE LEAVING AT
8/20/09 11:27:54 THE SAME TIME.
8/20/09 11:27:57 >> THAT WAS
8/20/09 11:27:58 THE SUGGESTION.
8/20/09 11:28:01 1-YEAR TERM, 2-YEAR TERM,
8/20/09 11:28:02 18-
8/20/09 11:28:03 MONTH TERM.
8/20/09 11:28:04 IT'S YOUR CALL.
8/20/09 11:28:04 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 11:28:07 LET ME FIND OUT WHO
8/20/09 11:28:10 IS HERE.
8/20/09 11:28:13 FRANCIS
8/20/09 11:28:15 BROOKS.
8/20/09 11:28:18 BRIAN BUTLER.
8/20/09 11:28:18 ARLEN JACKSON.
8/20/09 11:28:20 >> SANDY MARSHALL.
8/20/09 11:28:23 ON MR. BUTLER, HE HAS
8/20/09 11:28:24 ADVISED
8/20/09 11:28:26 US THAT HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO
8/20/09 11:28:28 BE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY BECAUSE
8/20/09 11:28:30 HE'S WORKING ON A SUB
8/20/09 11:28:32 CONTRACTORRING PROJECT AT THE
8/20/09 11:28:34 AIR FORCE BASE WHICH WOULD TAKE
8/20/09 11:28:35 HIS PARTICIPATION THIS WEEK.
8/20/09 11:28:38 HE ALSO APOLOGIZED FOR THE
8/20/09 11:28:39 INCONVENIENCE AND WOULD LIKE TO
8/20/09 11:28:40 LET COUNCIL KNOW HE LOOKS
8/20/09 11:28:43 FORWARD TO BECOMING A MEMBER OF
8/20/09 11:28:46 THE EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY
8/20/09 11:28:46 ADVISORY COUNCIL.
8/20/09 11:28:49 >>
8/20/09 11:28:52 BOB SAMUEL.
8/20/09 11:28:54 MR. BROOKS, COME FORWARD.
8/20/09 11:28:56 TAKE A MINUTE AND SAY WHAT YOU
8/20/09 11:28:59 WANT
8/20/09 11:28:59 TO COUNCIL.
8/20/09 11:29:02 >>
8/20/09 11:29:02 GOOD MORNING.
8/20/09 11:29:06 MY NAME IS
8/20/09 11:29:07 FRANCIS BROOKS.
8/20/09 11:29:08 I AM HERE IN SUPPORT OF MY
8/20/09 11:29:10 APPLICATION TO GAIN APPOINTMENT
8/20/09 11:29:13 TO ONE OF THE VACANT POSITIONS
8/20/09 11:29:16 FOR THE EQUAL BUSINESS
8/20/09 11:29:16 ADVISORY
8/20/09 11:29:16 COUNCIL.
8/20/09 11:29:19 I'M A RESIDENT OF TAMPA FOR 23
8/20/09 11:29:19 YEARS.
8/20/09 11:29:22 FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS, I HAVE
8/20/09 11:29:24 RESIDED IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
8/20/09 11:29:27 I HAVE BEEN ACTIVE IN COMMUNITY
8/20/09 11:29:29 ORGANIZATIONS THERE.
8/20/09 11:29:30 FOR INSTANCE, SOUTHEAST
8/20/09 11:29:31 SEMINOLE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD
8/20/09 11:29:34 ASSOCIATION AND THE EAST
8/20/09 11:29:36 TAMPA
8/20/09 11:29:36 CRA.
8/20/09 11:29:39 I SERVED 15 YEARS WITH
8/20/09 11:29:41 GTE
8/20/09 11:29:43 VERIZON AS A BUSINESS ANALYST
8/20/09 11:29:45 AND A PROJECT MANAGER.
8/20/09 11:29:48 I CURRENTLY AM THE
8/20/09 11:29:50 MANAGING
8/20/09 11:29:52 MEMBER OF THE EAST TAMPA AREA.
8/20/09 11:29:54 WE PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION
8/20/09 11:29:57 SERVICES FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA,
8/20/09 11:29:59 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, THE
8/20/09 11:30:01 HILLSBOROUGH SCHOOL BOARD, THE
8/20/09 11:30:04 CITY OF ST. PETE, AND
8/20/09 11:30:06 ALSO
8/20/09 11:30:06 SARASOTA.
8/20/09 11:30:09 WE ARE ALSO
8/20/09 11:30:10 CERTIFIED WMBE.
8/20/09 11:30:12 I AM SEEKING ONE OF THE
8/20/09 11:30:13 POSITIONS JUST FROM BEING A
8/20/09 11:30:16 MEMBER OF THE DIFFERENT
8/20/09 11:30:17 ASSOCIATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.
8/20/09 11:30:20 I KNOW THAT WITH MY SKILLS AND
8/20/09 11:30:23 MY RESOURCES THAT I WOULD BE A
8/20/09 11:30:26 VALUABLE ASSET TO THE
8/20/09 11:30:26 COUNCIL.
8/20/09 11:30:29 I ALSO HAVE MY
8/20/09 11:30:30 OWN SELF-
8/20/09 11:30:32 RADIFICATION I RECEIVED.
8/20/09 11:30:32 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:30:35 >> THANK YOU
8/20/09 11:30:36 FOR YOUR PATIENCE
8/20/09 11:30:39 THIS MORNING.
8/20/09 11:30:39 >> INDEED.
8/20/09 11:30:42 >>
8/20/09 11:30:43 MR. JACKSON.
8/20/09 11:30:46 >> GOOD
8/20/09 11:30:47 MORNING.
8/20/09 11:30:48 MY NAME IS MR. JACKSON.
8/20/09 11:30:51 I'M THE OWNER OF THE
8/20/09 11:30:53 BUILDING
8/20/09 11:30:53 CONTRACTORS.
8/20/09 11:30:56 I AM HERE TO OFFER MY
8/20/09 11:30:59 SERVICES
8/20/09 11:31:01 AND VOLUNTEER TO HELP THE
8/20/09 11:31:02 COUNCIL CARRY OUT THEIR AGENDA
8/20/09 11:31:05 AND PLANS TO ENHANCE
8/20/09 11:31:06 THE EQUAL
8/20/09 11:31:09 OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITIZENS
8/20/09 11:31:10 OF TAMPA.
8/20/09 11:31:13 I STARTED AND WORKED
8/20/09 11:31:14 WITH THE
8/20/09 11:31:17 UNIVERSITY AREA HEALTH ADVISORY
8/20/09 11:31:18 COUNCIL.
8/20/09 11:31:21 I WAS CHAIR OF
8/20/09 11:31:24 THAT
8/20/09 11:31:25 ADVISORY
8/20/09 11:31:25 COUNCIL.
8/20/09 11:31:28 I'VE ALSO WORKED WITH THE
8/20/09 11:31:32 CHILDREN'S
8/20/09 11:31:33 BOARD AND HARRIET
8/20/09 11:31:35 SCOTT WITH POSITIVE SPIN IN THE
8/20/09 11:31:38 EFFORT TO HELP
8/20/09 11:31:39 FAMILIES BECOME
8/20/09 11:31:40 MORE SUSTAINABLE.
8/20/09 11:31:41 BEING A BUILDING CONTRACTOR,
8/20/09 11:31:44 I'M ALSO A CERTIFIED GREEN
8/20/09 11:31:44 BUILDER.
8/20/09 11:31:47 I HAVE ONE OF THOSE HARD
8/20/09 11:31:50 HATS
8/20/09 11:31:53 RIGHT THERE.
8/20/09 11:31:56 IN
8/20/09 11:31:59 SHORT, I AM HERE TO SERVE
8/20/09 11:32:02 THE CITIZENS OF
8/20/09 11:32:05 TAMPA AND SERVE
8/20/09 11:32:08 THE COUNCIL AND CARRY OUT
8/20/09 11:32:09 THE
8/20/09 11:32:11 PLANS THAT ARE GIVEN TO US AND
8/20/09 11:32:14 HANDLED TO THE BEST OF
8/20/09 11:32:16 OUR
8/20/09 11:32:16 ABILITIES.
8/20/09 11:32:18 THAT IS WHAT I'M HERE FOR.
8/20/09 11:32:21 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, AS THE
8/20/09 11:32:21 SELF-
8/20/09 11:32:23 PROCLAIMED SUPERVISOR OF CITY
8/20/09 11:32:24 COUNCIL, LET ME SAY THIS.
8/20/09 11:32:26 IN THE FIRST SECTION YOU HAVE
8/20/09 11:32:27 FIVE GOOD INDIVIDUALS AND YOU
8/20/09 11:32:28 CHOOSE ONE RIGHT?
8/20/09 11:32:31 IN THE SECOND PHASE, YOU HAVE
8/20/09 11:32:32 FIVE SAME INDIVIDUALS.
8/20/09 11:32:33 AND YOU CHOOSE ONE.
8/20/09 11:32:35 THEN YOU GO TO THE TWO AT
8/20/09 11:32:38 LARGE, YOU HAVE THE SAME FINE
8/20/09 11:32:40 FIVE INDIVIDUALS, AND YOU
8/20/09 11:32:41 CHOOSE TWO.
8/20/09 11:32:43 SO ARE WE SAYING THAT YOU CAN
8/20/09 11:32:46 ONLY VOTE FOR ONE ONE TIME,
8/20/09 11:32:47 NOT
8/20/09 11:32:47 TWICE.
8/20/09 11:32:47 RIGHT?
8/20/09 11:32:50 I WANT TO
8/20/09 11:32:52 CLEAR THIS.
8/20/09 11:32:53 >> SANDY MARSHALL.
8/20/09 11:32:56 ONCE THE VOTES ARE TALLIED,
8/20/09 11:32:57 WHOEVER RECEIVES THE MOST VOTES
8/20/09 11:32:59 WILL BE THE PERSON SELECTED.
8/20/09 11:33:00 THEN THAT PERSON'S NAME WOULD
8/20/09 11:33:03 BE REMOVED FROM THE SECOND
8/20/09 11:33:03 CATEGORY.
8/20/09 11:33:05 WHOEVER RECEIVES THE MOST
8/20/09 11:33:06 VOTES, THOSE WOULD BE REMOVED
8/20/09 11:33:09 FROM THE
8/20/09 11:33:10 THIRD CATEGORY.
8/20/09 11:33:13 PLEASE VOTE
8/20/09 11:33:15 FOR ONE.
8/20/09 11:33:18 >>
8/20/09 11:33:19 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:33:22 >> AS THE
8/20/09 11:33:25 ASSISTANT DEPUTY
8/20/09 11:33:27 SUPERVISER OF ELECTIONS, I
8/20/09 11:33:29 THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO HAND
8/20/09 11:33:31 IN HAND WHAT W WHAT SANDY SAID,
8/20/09 11:33:33 I KNOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE
8/20/09 11:33:35 LONGER, IS TO VOTE FOR THE
8/20/09 11:33:37 FIRST GROUP FIRST.
8/20/09 11:33:37 STRIKE THAT.
8/20/09 11:33:40 THEN WE'LL TURN IN THE
8/20/09 11:33:41 NEXT
8/20/09 11:33:41 ONE.
8/20/09 11:33:43 BECAUSE IT WILL GET MESSED UP
8/20/09 11:33:46 AND INFLUENCE OUR VOTES IN
8/20/09 11:33:48 TERMS OF HOW WE VOTE FOR THE
8/20/09 11:33:50 FIRST AND SECOND IF WE HAVE TO
8/20/09 11:33:53 TURN IT ALL IN AT ONCE.
8/20/09 11:33:56 THAT WOULD BE MY
8/20/09 11:33:56 SUGGESTION.
8/20/09 11:33:57 THAT WAY WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
8/20/09 11:33:58 >> WOULD YOU RECOMMEND PLACING
8/20/09 11:34:01 THE NAMES ON IT TO RETURN THEM
8/20/09 11:34:03 BACK TO THEM?
8/20/09 11:34:05 >> THAT'S WHAT I WOULD
8/20/09 11:34:05 RECOMMEND.
8/20/09 11:34:06 DO ONE AND RETURN THEM AFTER
8/20/09 11:34:08 THAT VOTE IS TAKEN SO YOU KNOW
8/20/09 11:34:10 WHO THE PERSON IS TO BE REMOVED
8/20/09 11:34:13 FROM THE
8/20/09 11:34:13 NEXT CATEGORY.
8/20/09 11:34:14 >> JUST MAKE SURE YOUR NAME IS
8/20/09 11:34:17 ON THE FRONT OF
8/20/09 11:34:18 THE BALLOTS.
8/20/09 11:34:21 >> ARE WE DONE WITH
8/20/09 11:34:24 THE
8/20/09 11:34:27 INTERVIEWS?
8/20/09 11:34:30 >> JOSHUA HALL
8/20/09 11:34:32 IS PRESENT TOO.
8/20/09 11:34:35 >> COME FORWARD.
8/20/09 11:34:37 >> YOU STAND ON A POST, SO YOU
8/20/09 11:34:40 MIGHT HAVE A SHOT AT
8/20/09 11:34:40 IT.
8/20/09 11:34:41 >> IF YOU LOSE THIS ONE, YOU'RE
8/20/09 11:34:42 IN REAL TROUBLE.
8/20/09 11:34:43 >> GOOD MORNING.
8/20/09 11:34:45 MY NAME IS JOSHUA HALL.
8/20/09 11:34:47 I WORK AT THE CITY OF TAMPA IN
8/20/09 11:34:50 THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT
8/20/09 11:34:50 UNDER TRANSPORTATION.
8/20/09 11:34:52 I THOUGHT THIS POSITION WOULD
8/20/09 11:34:54 BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ME
8/20/09 11:34:55 TO EXTEND MY SERVICE THROUGHOUT
8/20/09 11:34:57 THE COMMUNITY AND VOLUNTEER.
8/20/09 11:35:00 I'D LIKE TO ACQUIRE
8/20/09 11:35:01 THE
8/20/09 11:35:03 POSITION ON THE BOARD TO
8/20/09 11:35:04 INSTILL A VISION WITHIN THE
8/20/09 11:35:06 COMMUNITY BY IMPLEMENTING
8/20/09 11:35:08 BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES TO
8/20/09 11:35:10 PROMOTE ECONOMIC GROWTH.
8/20/09 11:35:13 I ATTEND POSTMASTERS TRYING TO
8/20/09 11:35:16 BEEF UP MY PUBLIC SPEAKING
8/20/09 11:35:17 SKILLS.
8/20/09 11:35:18 I DONATE BLOOD.
8/20/09 11:35:21 I TRY TO GET OUT INTO THE
8/20/09 11:35:22 COMMUNITY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
8/20/09 11:35:22 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:35:25 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:35:28 >> YOU HAD US
8/20/09 11:35:31 AT HELLO.
8/20/09 11:35:34 >> JUST VOTE FOR THE
8/20/09 11:35:36 FIRST
8/20/09 11:35:36 CATEGORY.
8/20/09 11:35:38 THEY WILL TALLY THEM.
8/20/09 11:35:41 THEN THEY WILL
8/20/09 11:35:45 REDISTRIBUTE
8/20/09 11:35:48 THEM.
8/20/09 11:35:57 >> THIS IS ONE VOTE
8/20/09 11:36:00 COUNCIL
8/20/09 11:36:03 CAN'T LOSE.
8/20/09 11:36:15 >> YOU
8/20/09 11:36:16 TELL US.
8/20/09 11:36:18 >> I SECOND THE FINE
8/20/09 11:36:20 RECOMMENDATION FOR MR. HALL.
8/20/09 11:36:21 >> MOVE TO SECOND.
8/20/09 11:36:23 ALL IN FAVOR.
8/20/09 11:36:24 >> AYE.
8/20/09 11:36:26 >> ALL RIGHT.
8/20/09 11:36:27 MR. HALL.
8/20/09 11:36:27 UNANIMOUS VOTE.
8/20/09 11:36:30 YOU MAY NEVER GET
8/20/09 11:36:31 THAT AGAIN.
8/20/09 11:36:34 >> DO YOU WISH TO PROCEED
8/20/09 11:36:37 ON TO
8/20/09 11:36:37 THE COMMISSION?
8/20/09 11:36:40 ON THE
8/20/09 11:36:42 HILLSBOROUGH PLANNING
8/20/09 11:36:42 COMMISSION.
8/20/09 11:36:43 THIS POSITION WE HAVE TWO
8/20/09 11:36:44 POSITIONS THAT WILL BE EXPIRING
8/20/09 11:36:46 ON SEPTEMBER 29th.
8/20/09 11:36:48 THE TERMS OF THE APPOINTMENTS
8/20/09 11:36:50 WOULD BE FOR FOUR YEARS.
8/20/09 11:36:51 WE HAVE RECEIVED FOUR
8/20/09 11:36:53 APPLICATIONS FOR THESE TWO
8/20/09 11:36:53 POSITIONS.
8/20/09 11:36:55 WE HAVE RECEIVED AN APPLICATION
8/20/09 11:36:58 FROM LAURA
8/20/09 11:37:00 BUFORD, STEWART
8/20/09 11:37:03 ROGERS, AND
8/20/09 11:37:04 MR. WOOD RIFF.
8/20/09 11:37:06 ALL HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED TO BE
8/20/09 11:37:06 PRESENT.
8/20/09 11:37:07 >> ALL RIGHT.
8/20/09 11:37:10 IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD AND
8/20/09 11:37:11 STATE YOUR NAME.
8/20/09 11:37:14 YOU HAVE
8/20/09 11:37:15 1 MINUTE.
8/20/09 11:37:18 >> THIS IS THE PLANNING
8/20/09 11:37:19 COMMISSION.
8/20/09 11:37:22 THERE'S TWO POSITIONS THAT ARE
8/20/09 11:37:23 UP.
8/20/09 11:37:25 WE HAVE FOUR APPLICANTS.
8/20/09 11:37:28 >> MY NAME IS
8/20/09 11:37:29 MR. WOOD RIFF.
8/20/09 11:37:32 I WAS GOING TO MAKE A
8/20/09 11:37:32 JOKE.
8/20/09 11:37:35 I SAY RARELY DOES A W
8/20/09 11:37:36 GO FIRST.
8/20/09 11:37:37 I'VE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY FOR
8/20/09 11:37:39 OVER 30 YEARS.
8/20/09 11:37:41 I'VE BEEN BLESSED TO HAVE DONE
8/20/09 11:37:42 PROJECTS THROUGHOUT
8/20/09 11:37:44 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND THE
8/20/09 11:37:44 CITY.
8/20/09 11:37:46 PART OF IT HAS INVOLVED THE
8/20/09 11:37:49 ISSUES IN TERMS OF GROWTH
8/20/09 11:37:50 AND
8/20/09 11:37:50 RECESSATION.
8/20/09 11:37:52 ADDITIONALLY, I'VE BEEN IMPLIED
8/20/09 11:37:55 SOME OF THE BELIEF THAT I HAVE
8/20/09 11:37:58 BEEN GIVEN SERVICE TO THE
8/20/09 11:37:58 COMMUNITY.
8/20/09 11:38:01 I'VE SERVED IN THE HEART LINE.
8/20/09 11:38:04 I'M EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF
8/20/09 11:38:07 THE
8/20/09 11:38:07 SERVICE.
8/20/09 11:38:10 I CURRENTLY SERVE IN THE
8/20/09 11:38:11 WCDC
8/20/09 11:38:11 BOARD.
8/20/09 11:38:12 I REALLY BELIEVE THAT I HAVE AN
8/20/09 11:38:14 OPPORTUNITY HERE THAT I MIGHT
8/20/09 11:38:16 BE ABLE TO USE SOME OF THAT
8/20/09 11:38:17 EXPERIENCE IN TERMS OF WHAT'S
8/20/09 11:38:19 GOING ON IN TERMS OF THE
8/20/09 11:38:19 FUTURE.
8/20/09 11:38:21 I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.
8/20/09 11:38:22 I APPRECIATE BEING HERE.
8/20/09 11:38:24 I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT I'M
8/20/09 11:38:27 ALLOWED TO DO THIS AND
8/20/09 11:38:28 HOPEFULLY YOU WILL GIVE ME THE
8/20/09 11:38:31 NOD AND TO CONTINUE TO SERVE MY
8/20/09 11:38:36 COMMUNITY.
8/20/09 11:38:36 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:38:36 >>
8/20/09 11:38:39 >>> GOOD MORNING.
8/20/09 11:38:42 MY NAME IS JILL BY FORD.
8/20/09 11:38:43 I'M ASKING TO RETAIN MY
8/20/09 11:38:45 POSITION ON THE PLANNING
8/20/09 11:38:45 POSITION.
8/20/09 11:38:47 I HAVE 18 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE
8/20/09 11:38:50 IN THE COMMUNITY AND CIVIC
8/20/09 11:38:53 SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS
8/20/09 11:38:54 OF
8/20/09 11:38:54 TAMPA.
8/20/09 11:38:57 I BELIEVE THAT WHEN I REVIEW A
8/20/09 11:38:58 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, I
8/20/09 11:39:01 NOT ONLY LOOK AT THE
8/20/09 11:39:02 CONSISTENCY OF THE LANGUAGE,
8/20/09 11:39:05 BUT THE CONSISTENCY OF THE
8/20/09 11:39:07 INTENT AND MAKE SURE IT APPLIES
8/20/09 11:39:10 TO OUR NEW PLAN, WHICH STRESSES
8/20/09 11:39:11 STAINABILITY AND LIVABILITY.
8/20/09 11:39:14 I HOPE THAT YOU WILL GIVE ME
8/20/09 11:39:15 YOUR VOTE TO RETAIN MY POSITION
8/20/09 11:39:18 ON THE PLANNING
8/20/09 11:39:20 COMMISSION.
8/20/09 11:39:20 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:39:21 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:39:24 >>
8/20/09 11:39:27 I'M STEWART ROGERS.
8/20/09 11:39:30 I HAVE 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE
8/20/09 11:39:32 IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT ARENA.
8/20/09 11:39:34 I HAVE HAD THIS EXPERIENCE IN
8/20/09 11:39:36 SEVERAL COUNTIES AROUND THE
8/20/09 11:39:36 AREA.
8/20/09 11:39:39 I HAD MY OWN PRACTICE FOR 15
8/20/09 11:39:42 YEARS IN HILLSBOROUGH AND
8/20/09 11:39:44 THE
8/20/09 11:39:45 SURROUNDING CITIES AND
8/20/09 11:39:45 COUNTIES.
8/20/09 11:39:45 I FOLLOWED THE PLAN AMENDMENTS
8/20/09 11:39:47 IN FIVE COUNTIES AND BEEN
8/20/09 11:39:49 INVOLVED IN TWO DIFFERENT
8/20/09 11:39:49 DRIs.
8/20/09 11:39:52 I BRING A PERSPECTIVE OF
8/20/09 11:39:53 HAVING
8/20/09 11:39:54 BEEN ON SEVERAL COMMITTEES IN
8/20/09 11:39:57 PASCO AND SEVERAL CITIES IN
8/20/09 11:39:59 PASCO HELPING TO DEVELOPMENT
8/20/09 11:40:02 REGULATIONS AND TO REVIEW
8/20/09 11:40:03 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LANGUAGE AND
8/20/09 11:40:04 THAT SORT OF THING.
8/20/09 11:40:07 ALSO ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE
8/20/09 11:40:09 WE
8/20/09 11:40:11 APPLY THOSE GLOBAL PLANNING
8/20/09 11:40:13 ISSUES TO INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS.
8/20/09 11:40:16 SOMETIMES WE LOOK AND SEE
8/20/09 11:40:17 THE
8/20/09 11:40:18 UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF
8/20/09 11:40:20 GREAT PLANNING GOALS THAT HAVE
8/20/09 11:40:22 DIFFICULTY BEING APPLIED ON THE
8/20/09 11:40:23 PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS.
8/20/09 11:40:25 I THINK MY 25 YEARS OF
8/20/09 11:40:27 EXPERIENCE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE
8/20/09 11:40:29 AISLE PROVIDES ME A GOOD
8/20/09 11:40:29 BACKGROUND.
8/20/09 11:40:31 I'M A CITY OF TAMPA RESIDENT.
8/20/09 11:40:34 I'M ACTIVE IN THE DOWNTOWN
8/20/09 11:40:37 PARTNERSHIP AND THE WISH
8/20/09 11:40:38 FOR
8/20/09 11:40:38 ALLIANCE.
8/20/09 11:40:41 I WOULD LOVE TO SERVE IN
8/20/09 11:40:44 THIS
8/20/09 11:40:46 CAPACITY.
8/20/09 11:40:46 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:40:48 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, THE
8/20/09 11:40:50 ANNOUNCEMENT PROVIDES FOR 3
8/20/09 11:40:50 MINUTES.
8/20/09 11:40:53 ARE YOU GOING TO HOLD ME TO A
8/20/09 11:40:53 MINUTE?
8/20/09 11:40:56 >> YES,
8/20/09 11:41:00 SIR.
8/20/09 11:41:03 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 11:41:06 >> GOOD MORNING
8/20/09 11:41:07 TO YOU.
8/20/09 11:41:09 I'M BRUCE CURRY.
8/20/09 11:41:12 I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO
8/20/09 11:41:15 REAPPOINT ME TO THE PLANNING
8/20/09 11:41:15 COMMISSION.
8/20/09 11:41:17 I'VE HAD A GOOD DEAL TO SAY,
8/20/09 11:41:18 BUT I HAVE BEEN CUT DOWN.
8/20/09 11:41:21 I HAVE BEEN THE CHAIRMAN OF THE
8/20/09 11:41:21 ADJUSTMENT BOARD.
8/20/09 11:41:22 I'VE BEEN THE THE CHAIRMAN OF
8/20/09 11:41:24 THE APPEALS BOARD.
8/20/09 11:41:26 I HAVE PRACTICED LAW IN THE
8/20/09 11:41:29 AREA OF REAL ESTATE AND
8/20/09 11:41:29 TRANSPORTATION AND IMPORTANT
8/20/09 11:41:31 AREAS FOR THE PLANNING
8/20/09 11:41:33 COMMISSION FOR 37 YEARS.
8/20/09 11:41:35 I'VE BEEN A TRAFFIC COURT
8/20/09 11:41:37 MAGISTRATE IN THIS COUNTY FOR
8/20/09 11:41:38 16 YEARS.
8/20/09 11:41:39 THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT IS
8/20/09 11:41:41 BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO LEARN HOW
8/20/09 11:41:42 TO QUESTION WITHOUT GIVING
8/20/09 11:41:43 OFFENSE.
8/20/09 11:41:45 YOU HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO SORT
8/20/09 11:41:48 OUT SOME OF THE
8/20/09 11:41:50 ANSWERS.
8/20/09 11:41:53 YOU HAVE TO LEARN
8/20/09 11:41:56 PATIENCE AND
8/20/09 11:41:56 TEMPERAMENT.
8/20/09 11:41:57 SOMETIMES IT CAN BE BORING AND
8/20/09 11:41:59 YOU SUSPECT THAT SOME OF THE
8/20/09 11:42:02 THINGS THAT ARE SAID ARE NOT
8/20/09 11:42:03 THE TRUTH.
8/20/09 11:42:06 I THINK WHAT IS
8/20/09 11:42:09 MOST PERSUASIVE
8/20/09 11:42:13 IS THIS.
8/20/09 11:42:16 IN RESPECT FOR YOUR PRESENT
8/20/09 11:42:18 APPOINTMENT THAT I'M COMPLETING
8/20/09 11:42:20 AND IN COMMITMENT TO THE
8/20/09 11:42:21 PLANNING COMMISSION I HAVE NOT
8/20/09 11:42:24 MISSED A SINGLE MEETING FOR
8/20/09 11:42:25 FOUR YEARS.
8/20/09 11:42:27 IN THOSE FOUR YEARS, I HAVE
8/20/09 11:42:29 BEEN THE CHAIRMAN AS SOME
8/20/09 11:42:31 EVIDENCE OF WHAT THE COMMISSION
8/20/09 11:42:31 SAYS.
8/20/09 11:42:34 >>
8/20/09 11:42:34 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:42:36 >> I'VE SERVED WITH BRUCE IN
8/20/09 11:42:37 THE PAST.
8/20/09 11:42:38 REGARDLESS OF HOW THE VOTE
8/20/09 11:42:40 COMES OUT, I WANTED TO THANK
8/20/09 11:42:43 HIM FOR 8 YEARS OF SERVICE ON
8/20/09 11:42:44 THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
8/20/09 11:42:46 SO THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:42:47 >> YES, SIR.
8/20/09 11:42:50 >>
8/20/09 11:42:50 MR. CHAIRMAN.
8/20/09 11:42:53 IT'S OBVIOUS WE'RE ONLY GOING
8/20/09 11:42:53 TO CHOOSE TWO.
8/20/09 11:42:54 THIS IS TOUGH.
8/20/09 11:42:57 I ENCOURAGE YOU,
8/20/09 11:42:59 WE HAVE
8/20/09 11:43:00 OPENINGS IN OTHER BOARDS.
8/20/09 11:43:03 IF YOU DON'T MAKE THIS,
8/20/09 11:43:04 PLEASE
8/20/09 11:43:07 CONSIDER SERVICE ON ANOTHER
8/20/09 11:43:08 CITY BOARD.
8/20/09 11:43:11 >> I GOT THREE BALLOTS THIS
8/20/09 11:43:14 TIME.
8/20/09 11:43:17 >> JOHN, YOU'RE THE
8/20/09 11:43:19 LUCKY ONE.
8/20/09 11:43:22 >>
8/20/09 11:43:25 PICK TWO.
8/20/09 11:43:31 >>
8/20/09 11:43:34 DO
8/20/09 11:43:37 NOT FOLD.
8/20/09 11:43:39 >> SANDY MARSHALL.
8/20/09 11:43:42 WITH REGARD TO THE FIRST
8/20/09 11:43:43 TALLY
8/20/09 11:43:46 OF THE
8/20/09 11:43:48 VOTES, AN THE AFRICAN-
8/20/09 11:43:50 AMERICAN COT GAY, FRANCIS
8/20/09 11:43:53 BROOKS RECEIVED 5, AND SAMUEL
8/20/09 11:43:56 RECEIVED
8/20/09 11:43:58 2. THE NEXT VOTE YOU
8/20/09 11:44:01 WILL NEED TO
8/20/09 11:44:01 REMOVE FRANCIS.
8/20/09 11:44:04 >> YOU WANT A
8/20/09 11:44:05 MOTION?
8/20/09 11:44:07 >> NO.
8/20/09 11:44:10 NEVER
8/20/09 11:44:12 MIND.
8/20/09 11:44:15 >> CONGRATULATIONS.
8/20/09 11:45:30 >> WHAT
8/20/09 11:45:31 ELSE.
8/20/09 11:45:34 >> THE OTHER ITEM
8/20/09 11:45:35 WE HAVE ON
8/20/09 11:45:38 THE PLANNING COMMISSION
8/20/09 11:45:39 IS ITEM
8/20/09 11:45:42 103 FOR CHANGE OF
8/20/09 11:45:42 THE
8/20/09 11:45:42 PRESERVATION.
8/20/09 11:45:45 WE HAVE ONE POSITION EXPIRING
8/20/09 11:45:47 THAT REQUIRES AN ARCHAEOLOGIST.
8/20/09 11:45:49 WE RECEIVED ONE APPLICATION
8/20/09 11:45:50 FROM THE CURRENT PERSON SERVING
8/20/09 11:45:51 THAT POSITION.
8/20/09 11:45:53 THAT'S THE ONLY APPLICATION WE
8/20/09 11:45:53 RECEIVED.
8/20/09 11:45:56 >>
8/20/09 11:45:59 SO MOVE.
8/20/09 11:45:59 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 11:46:02 REAPPOINT THE PERSON FOR THE
8/20/09 11:46:04 HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
8/20/09 11:46:04 >> AYE.
8/20/09 11:46:07 >>
8/20/09 11:46:09 >> SHE'S IN THE BACK.
8/20/09 11:46:12 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
8/20/09 11:46:14 >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO STAND UP
8/20/09 11:46:17 OR GIVE US YOUR
8/20/09 11:46:17 NAME?
8/20/09 11:46:20 >>
8/20/09 11:46:22 I'M SORRY.
8/20/09 11:46:26 >> MY NAME IS
8/20/09 11:46:27 SHANNON DIAGA.
8/20/09 11:46:30 AND I'M
8/20/09 11:46:33 JUST SEEKING RENEWAL.
8/20/09 11:46:33 WHICH YOU JUST APPROVED.
8/20/09 11:46:33 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:46:36 >> YOU LOOK
8/20/09 11:46:37 SO YOUNG.
8/20/09 11:46:39 >> SHE'S THE THE VICE PRESIDENT
8/20/09 11:46:42 OF THE CENTRAL GOVERNMENT COAST
8/20/09 11:46:42 ARCHAEOLOGIST SOCIETY.
8/20/09 11:46:46 I CAN
8/20/09 11:46:52 DIG IT.
8/20/09 11:46:54 >> SANDY MARSHALL.
8/20/09 11:46:57 THE RESULTS OF THE VOTE FOR THE
8/20/09 11:46:59 PLANNING COMMISSION.
8/20/09 11:47:01 LAURA RECEIVED 6 VOTES.
8/20/09 11:47:04 BRUCE CURRY RECEIVED 5. AND
8/20/09 11:47:04 MR.
8/20/09 11:47:07 WOOD RIFF RECEIVED 3.
8/20/09 11:47:09 LAURA AND
8/20/09 11:47:12 MR. CURRY ARE
8/20/09 11:47:13 YOUR
8/20/09 11:47:13 APPOINTMENTS.
8/20/09 11:47:16 >>
8/20/09 11:47:19 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:47:28 >> WE
8/20/09 11:47:31 HAVE ONE MORE
8/20/09 11:47:32 VOTE.
8/20/09 11:47:35 CAN WE TAKE UP
8/20/09 11:47:41 ITEM 105.
8/20/09 11:47:52 >> 104.
8/20/09 11:47:55 I DIDN'T MAKE THE MOTION THIS
8/20/09 11:47:55 MORNING.
8/20/09 11:47:55 SECOND.
8/20/09 11:47:56 MOVE THE SECOND.
8/20/09 11:47:59 ALL
8/20/09 11:48:02 IN
8/20/09 11:48:03 FAVOR.
8/20/09 11:48:03 AYE.
8/20/09 11:48:03 ITEM 105.
8/20/09 11:48:03 SECOND.
8/20/09 11:48:04 MOVE TO SECOND.
8/20/09 11:48:07 ALL
8/20/09 11:48:09 IN FAVOR.
8/20/09 11:48:12 AYE.
8/20/09 11:48:12 ITEM 106.
8/20/09 11:48:15 MOVE TO CONTINUE TO OCTOBER
8/20/09 11:48:16 1,
8/20/09 11:48:17 2009.
8/20/09 11:48:17 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 11:48:20 >> ALL
8/20/09 11:48:20 IN FAVOR.
8/20/09 11:48:21 AYE.
8/20/09 11:48:24 >> ITEM 106
8/20/09 11:48:25 IS CONTINUED.
8/20/09 11:48:25 ITEM 107.
8/20/09 11:48:26 >> I BELIEVE THAT WAS CONTINUED
8/20/09 11:48:29 BY MOTION DURING THE APPROVAL
8/20/09 11:48:32 OF SEPTEMBER 17th.
8/20/09 11:48:35 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D ALSO
8/20/09 11:48:38 LIKE
8/20/09 11:48:41 TO ASK.
8/20/09 11:48:44 IF CABLE
8/20/09 11:48:46 EXPLORED THE OPTION OF
8/20/09 11:48:49 A LOCAL COMPANY TO PROVIDE
8/20/09 11:48:51 THE
8/20/09 11:48:51 SERVICE.
8/20/09 11:48:54 >> THIS COMPANY I BELIEVE IN
8/20/09 11:48:55 COLORADO GOT THE BID.
8/20/09 11:48:57 I THINK THE DIFFERENCE WAS
8/20/09 11:48:59 ABOUT $6,000 AT THE RATE THAT
8/20/09 11:48:59 THEY CHARGE.
8/20/09 11:49:02 I READ SOME OF
8/20/09 11:49:03 THE SCRIPTS.
8/20/09 11:49:05 MY NAME WAS MENTIONED A COUPLE
8/20/09 11:49:05 TIMES.
8/20/09 11:49:07 I FOUND IT VERY HARD TO FOLLOW.
8/20/09 11:49:10 IT WAS MISSING GAPS AND
8/20/09 11:49:12 MISSPELLED NAMES AND STREETS.
8/20/09 11:49:13 I THINK CABLE HAS TAKEN THIS
8/20/09 11:49:16 AND HAS CALLED THAT COMPANY AND
8/20/09 11:49:18 DISCUSSED IT WITH THEM AND IS
8/20/09 11:49:20 GIVING THEM 30 DAYS.
8/20/09 11:49:21 THEY WILL REVIEW THEIR SCRIPTS
8/20/09 11:49:24 FROM OUR MEETINGS UP TO THAT
8/20/09 11:49:26 TIME.
8/20/09 11:49:29 ODDLY TO SAY, THE COMPANY WE
8/20/09 11:49:31 HAD GOT TWO AWARDS NATIONWIDE
8/20/09 11:49:33 AND A SILVER AWARD NATIONWIDE
8/20/09 11:49:35 AFTER WE WENT FOR THE LOW BID.
8/20/09 11:49:38 BUT I UNDERSTAND THE
8/20/09 11:49:40 BIDDING
8/20/09 11:49:40 PROCESS.
8/20/09 11:49:41 I HOPE THAT CABLE IS GOING TO
8/20/09 11:49:44 COME BACK TO US IN
8/20/09 11:49:44 30 DAYS.
8/20/09 11:49:45 IF NOT THEY ARE GOING TO
8/20/09 11:49:46 TERMINATE THE CONTRACT.
8/20/09 11:49:48 >> CAN WE ADD THAT TO THE
8/20/09 11:49:48 REQUEST.
8/20/09 11:49:51 >>
8/20/09 11:49:54 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:49:57 >> ARE YOU
8/20/09 11:49:59 GOING TO LEAVE IT?
8/20/09 11:50:02 >> WE HAVEN'T
8/20/09 11:50:05 DONE IT
8/20/09 11:50:05 YET.
8/20/09 11:50:06 >> SANDY MARSHALL.
8/20/09 11:50:09 THE RESULTS OF THE BALLOT FOR
8/20/09 11:50:10 THE SECOND POSITION.
8/20/09 11:50:13 THE ETHNIC
8/20/09 11:50:14 MINORITY
8/20/09 11:50:14 NONSPECIFIC.
8/20/09 11:50:17 THEY ARE MAN JACKSON RECEIVED 5
8/20/09 11:50:18 VOTES.
8/20/09 11:50:20 ROBERT SAMUELS RECEIVED 2. WE
8/20/09 11:50:22 WILL NEED TO REMOVE THOSE NAMES
8/20/09 11:50:25 FROM THE
8/20/09 11:50:28 THIRD CATEGORY.
8/20/09 11:50:34 >> CONGRATULATIONS.
8/20/09 11:50:40 >> WHILE THAT IS BEING
8/20/09 11:50:43 DISTRIBUTED FOR YOUR
8/20/09 11:50:46 LAST VOTE,
8/20/09 11:50:52 ITEM 108.
8/20/09 11:50:53 >> YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU A
8/20/09 11:50:56 RESOLUTION OF PROVING A FEE
8/20/09 11:50:57 FOR
8/20/09 11:51:00 A SENATE BILL 360 CERTIFICATION
8/20/09 11:51:00 LETTER.
8/20/09 11:51:02 BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, SOME OF
8/20/09 11:51:05 YOU MAY HAVE HEARD
8/20/09 11:51:05 THAT THERE'S
8/20/09 11:51:08 SOME RECENT ACTION RELATING TO
8/20/09 11:51:11 GROSS MANAGEMENT IN THE STATE
8/20/09 11:51:13 OF FLORIDA KNOWN AS SENATE BILL
8/20/09 11:51:14 360.
8/20/09 11:51:15 THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS IN THE
8/20/09 11:51:18 PROCESS OF ANALYZING THE BILL.
8/20/09 11:51:21 IT'S EXTENSIVE AND
8/20/09 11:51:24 HAS A LOT
8/20/09 11:51:26 OF
8/20/09 11:51:26 COMPONENTS.
8/20/09 11:51:28 WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY
8/20/09 11:51:31 RELATES TO A BILL IN
8/20/09 11:51:32 WHICH
8/20/09 11:51:33 AUTOMATIC EXTENSIONS ARE TO BE
8/20/09 11:51:36 GRANTED UPON THE REQUEST OF
8/20/09 11:51:37 PROPERTY OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS
8/20/09 11:51:40 FOR ALL DEVELOPMENT PERMITS AND
8/20/09 11:51:42 BUILDING PERMITS WITHIN ALL
8/20/09 11:51:45 JURY DICTIONS UNTIL THE STATE
8/20/09 11:51:46 OF FLORIDA.
8/20/09 11:51:49 THOSE EXTENSIONS ARE AUTOMATIC
8/20/09 11:51:52 FOR FLORIDA STATUTE.
8/20/09 11:51:54 HOWEVER, MANY PEOPLE ASKING FOR
8/20/09 11:51:55 THESE PERMIT EXTENSIONS ARE
8/20/09 11:51:58 ASKING FOR SOME KIND OF
8/20/09 11:51:58 WRITTEN
8/20/09 11:51:59 CONFIRMATION.
8/20/09 11:52:00 THERE'S NO OBLIGATION UNDER
8/20/09 11:52:03 SENATE BILL 360 THAT WE PROVIDE
8/20/09 11:52:05 WRITTEN CONFIRMATION OF THE
8/20/09 11:52:07 EXTENSIONS WHEN THEY ARE ASKED
8/20/09 11:52:07 FOR.
8/20/09 11:52:09 WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS IF
8/20/09 11:52:11 THERE'S A REQUEST FOR AN
8/20/09 11:52:13 EXTENSION PURSUANT TO 360 THAT
8/20/09 11:52:16 A PROPERTY OWNER WOULD LIKE TO
8/20/09 11:52:18 RECEIVE A CERTIFICATION THAT WE
8/20/09 11:52:20 CHARGE A FEE FOR THAT.
8/20/09 11:52:23 THE FEE WHICH IS BEING SET
8/20/09 11:52:24 IS
8/20/09 11:52:24 $50.
8/20/09 11:52:25 I'M GOING TO ASK THEM TO GET UP
8/20/09 11:52:28 AND CONFIRM THAT'S AN ADEQUATE
8/20/09 11:52:30 FEE FOR THE PURPOSE OF
8/20/09 11:52:31 PROCESSING THE WRITTEN
8/20/09 11:52:34 RESPONSES TO SUCH
8/20/09 11:52:37 REQUESTS.
8/20/09 11:52:40 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:52:45 >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
8/20/09 11:52:47 PROCESS IS THAT'S GOING TO GO
8/20/09 11:52:48 WITH THE FEE.
8/20/09 11:52:49 WHAT'S THE CRITERIA?
8/20/09 11:52:52 WHAT ARE
8/20/09 11:52:53 THE RAMIFICATIONS?
8/20/09 11:52:55 YOU GUYS HAVEN'T FINISHED
8/20/09 11:52:56 ANALYZING IT.
8/20/09 11:52:57 THEREFORE, YOU HAVEN'T BRIEFED
8/20/09 11:52:57 US.
8/20/09 11:52:58 >> THAT IS TRUE.
8/20/09 11:53:00 I THINK AS WE WERE GOING
8/20/09 11:53:01 THROUGH THE PROCESS OF
8/20/09 11:53:03 ANALYZING THE BILL, WE HAD
8/20/09 11:53:06 LETTERS COMING IN ASKING FOR
8/20/09 11:53:07 WRITTEN CONFIRMATION.
8/20/09 11:53:08 IT WASN'T OUR INTENT.
8/20/09 11:53:11 BOATS THE SAME TIME, WE DIDN'T
8/20/09 11:53:13 WANT TO BE LEFT BEHIND ON THIS
8/20/09 11:53:14 ISSUE.
8/20/09 11:53:16 I CAN GO INTO MORE DETAIL AS IT
8/20/09 11:53:19 RELATES TO THE QUESTION, BUT
8/20/09 11:53:22 UNDER THE
8/20/09 11:53:25 NEW PROVISION, LOCAL
8/20/09 11:53:27 GOVERNMENT ORDERS IN TERMS OF
8/20/09 11:53:30 ZONING APPROVALS
8/20/09 11:53:31 ARE INCLUSIVE
8/20/09 11:53:34 OF SUBDIVISION APPROVALS.
8/20/09 11:53:36 ALL OF THOSE APPROVALS ARE
8/20/09 11:53:36 CONSIDERED DEVELOPMENT ORDERS
8/20/09 11:53:39 AS WELL AS BUILDING PERMITS
8/20/09 11:53:42 PURSUANT TO THE
8/20/09 11:53:43 FLORIDA BILL.
8/20/09 11:53:44 IF YOU MAKE A REQUEST PRIOR TO
8/20/09 11:53:47 THE END OF
8/20/09 11:53:50 THIS YEAR, PER
8/20/09 11:53:52 STATUTE, THAT EXTENSION MUST BE
8/20/09 11:53:53 AUTOMATICALLY GRANTED FOR A
8/20/09 11:53:55 PERIOD OF TWO YEARS.
8/20/09 11:53:58 THERE IS NO ABILITY TO
8/20/09 11:53:59 NOT
8/20/09 11:53:59 APPROVE IT.
8/20/09 11:54:02 YOU'RE JUST IN A POSITION
8/20/09 11:54:03 OF WE
8/20/09 11:54:06 NEED TO BE SUPPLIED WITH THE
8/20/09 11:54:08 ACTUAL PERMIT NUMBER AND THERE
8/20/09 11:54:11 ARE NO CURRENT ENFORCEMENT CODE
8/20/09 11:54:14 ACTIONS ON THAT PROPERTY
8/20/09 11:54:15 AND
8/20/09 11:54:15 THAT THEY YOU'LL NEED TO KEEP
8/20/09 11:54:17 THE PROPERTY IN GOOD REPAIR.
8/20/09 11:54:19 THAT'S MORE OF AN ISSUE WITH
8/20/09 11:54:21 BUILDING PERMITS IN YOU'RE IN
8/20/09 11:54:22 THE MIDDLE OF CONSTRUCTING OR
8/20/09 11:54:25 YOU HAVE A CLEARED
8/20/09 11:54:25 LAND.
8/20/09 11:54:27 THOSE CONDITIONS ARE MET AS A
8/20/09 11:54:28 MATTER OF COURSE.
8/20/09 11:54:31 THEY ARE
8/20/09 11:54:32 AUTOMATICALLY ENTITLED
8/20/09 11:54:35 PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF
8/20/09 11:54:35 THE EXTENSION.
8/20/09 11:54:37 MANY ESSENCE, THE OPPORTUNITY
8/20/09 11:54:39 TO REALLY INVESTIGATE AND
8/20/09 11:54:41 DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S GOOD OR
8/20/09 11:54:44 BAD HAS BEEN CONSUMED INTO THE
8/20/09 11:54:44 SENATE BILL.
8/20/09 11:54:46 I WILL TELL YOU, THERE'S SOME
8/20/09 11:54:48 ISSUES WITH THAT.
8/20/09 11:54:51 THERE'S SOME LITIGATION
8/20/09 11:54:51 OUTSTANDING.
8/20/09 11:54:54 THAT BILL IS
8/20/09 11:54:55 OUT THERE.
8/20/09 11:54:56 WE NEED TO BE RESPONSIVE TO IT.
8/20/09 11:54:58 WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU, IS
8/20/09 11:55:00 JUST A MATTER OF COURSE IF
8/20/09 11:55:01 SOMEONE WANTS TO HAVE A
8/20/09 11:55:03 RESPONSE TO THAT TO SO IF WE'RE
8/20/09 11:55:05 TAKING TIME, IT'S SOMETHING WE
8/20/09 11:55:08 SHOULD RECEIVE SOME
8/20/09 11:55:09 KIND OF
8/20/09 11:55:09 RENUMERATION FOR.
8/20/09 11:55:12 I THINK THAT THE PRICE CAME
8/20/09 11:55:15 FROM
8/20/09 11:55:18 OUR ZONING
8/20/09 11:55:20 DRAFTS.
8/20/09 11:55:22 I THINK WHEN I HAVE ANALYZED
8/20/09 11:55:24 WHEN A LOT OF LOCAL
8/20/09 11:55:26 JURISDICTIONS HAVE DONE, THEY
8/20/09 11:55:27 HAVE TAKEN EXISTING PROCESSES
8/20/09 11:55:30 AND KIND OF USED
8/20/09 11:55:33 THAT AS
8/20/09 11:55:34 THEIR
8/20/09 11:55:35 MODEL.
8/20/09 11:55:36 >> CINDY MILLER.
8/20/09 11:55:39 I WILL LET KATHY RESPOND AS
8/20/09 11:55:40 TO
8/20/09 11:55:41 LAND DEVELOPMENTS, BUT I CAME
8/20/09 11:55:42 UP WITH THE $50.
8/20/09 11:55:45 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE
8/20/09 11:55:46 SOME COMPENSATION.
8/20/09 11:55:49 BUT WE DON'T WANT
8/20/09 11:55:52 TO BE OVERLY
8/20/09 11:55:52 COMPENSATED.
8/20/09 11:55:54 THAT DOES COVER THE COST.
8/20/09 11:55:57 IT WON'T ADDRESS IF YOU NEED A
8/20/09 11:56:00 TRUE OPINION, BUT WE
8/20/09 11:56:02 FELT $50
8/20/09 11:56:04 TO SUBMIT A LETTER TO MY OFFICE
8/20/09 11:56:06 WOULD BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH A
8/20/09 11:56:07 PROCESS.
8/20/09 11:56:08 WE BELIEVE IT COVERS SOME OF
8/20/09 11:56:11 THE COST, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO
8/20/09 11:56:14 GENERATE
8/20/09 11:56:18 A PROFIT.
8/20/09 11:56:19 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 11:56:21 WITH THE EXPLANATION OF THE
8/20/09 11:56:23 LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND
8/20/09 11:56:26 DISCUSSIONS WITH MISS MILLER,
8/20/09 11:56:29 THE $50
8/20/09 11:56:31 SEEMED REASONABLE.
8/20/09 11:56:32 ANYTHING FURTHER BEYOND JUST
8/20/09 11:56:34 THE RESPONSE THAT YOU ARE
8/20/09 11:56:37 EXTENDED BASED ON THIS CRITERIA
8/20/09 11:56:39 WOULD KICK IT INTO A
8/20/09 11:56:41 DETERMINATION LETTER WHICH IS
8/20/09 11:56:42 MORE EXPENSIVE.
8/20/09 11:56:45 BUT THE $50
8/20/09 11:56:46 WOULD SUFFICE.
8/20/09 11:56:49 >> I JUST THOUGHT PERHAPS WE
8/20/09 11:56:52 SHOULD SAY THAT PEOPLE AREN'T
8/20/09 11:56:55 HAPPY WITH THIS AND THEY
8/20/09 11:56:58 EXPRESSED CONCERNS TO THEIR
8/20/09 11:56:58 LEGISLATORS.
8/20/09 11:57:00 >> WE NEED A MOTION FOR THE
8/20/09 11:57:00 RESOLUTION.
8/20/09 11:57:02 >> SO MOVED.
8/20/09 11:57:03 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 11:57:06 >> ALL
8/20/09 11:57:08 IN FAVOR.
8/20/09 11:57:11 AYE.
8/20/09 11:57:12 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 11:57:15 LAST VOTE.
8/20/09 11:57:18 LET'S DO
8/20/09 11:57:21 THE TALLY
8/20/09 11:57:33 .
8/20/09 11:57:36 >> I HAVE TWO BOARDS THAT
8/20/09 11:57:36 WERE
8/20/09 11:57:39 PUT
8/20/09 11:57:42 TOGETHER BY MR. FORLITA.
8/20/09 11:57:42 THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL.
8/20/09 11:57:46 THEY SHOW THE HISTORY OF THE
8/20/09 11:57:46 MACARONI FACTORY.
8/20/09 11:57:50 I'D LIKE TO
8/20/09 11:57:56 SHOW THEM.
8/20/09 11:58:05 >> HE HAS BEEN VERY GENEROUS
8/20/09 11:58:05 IN
8/20/09 11:58:06 OFFERING HIS PROFESSIONAL
8/20/09 11:58:09 SERVICES AND GETTING OTHER
8/20/09 11:58:12 PROFESSIONALS AND ENGINEERS TO
8/20/09 11:58:15 LOOK AT THE ISSUES ABOUT THE
8/20/09 11:58:16 MACARONI FACTORY, WHICH IS
8/20/09 11:58:18 CURRENTLY ROOFLESS AND
8/20/09 11:58:21 ENDANGERED
8/20/09 11:58:22 IN YBOR.
8/20/09 11:58:25 DENNIS FER THAN DO SAID HE
8/20/09 11:58:26 COULD PRESENT A REPORT AT OUR
8/20/09 11:58:29 FIRST MEETING
8/20/09 11:58:35 IN SEPTEMBER.
8/20/09 11:58:36 I WOULD LIKE TO SCHEDULE A
8/20/09 11:58:37 BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE
8/20/09 11:58:39 CURRENT SITUATION WITH THE
8/20/09 11:58:41 MACARONI FACTORY AT OUR FIRST
8/20/09 11:58:44 MEETING UNDER
8/20/09 11:58:47 STAFF REPORTS.
8/20/09 11:58:49 >> I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
8/20/09 11:58:49 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 11:58:52 >> ALL
8/20/09 11:58:55 IN FAVOR.
8/20/09 11:58:56 >> WAIT.
8/20/09 11:58:56 QUICK QUESTION.
8/20/09 11:58:58 IS THAT OWNED BY A NONPROFIT?
8/20/09 11:58:59 >> NO.
8/20/09 11:59:01 IT'S OWNED BY A FOR PROFIT WHO
8/20/09 11:59:04 HAD ASKED FOR DEMOLITION THERE
8/20/09 11:59:04 NOW.
8/20/09 11:59:06 THEY ARE TALKING TO SOME FOLKS
8/20/09 11:59:07 IN THE COMMUNITY.
8/20/09 11:59:10 I WANT DENNIS TO BRING THAT ALL
8/20/09 11:59:10 UP.
8/20/09 11:59:13 >> I WAS WONDERING, IF THE
8/20/09 11:59:15 INTERSTATE FUND MIGHT BE OF
8/20/09 11:59:15 ASSISTANCE.
8/20/09 11:59:16 >> IT WILL BE IF SOMEBODY WOULD
8/20/09 11:59:18 ASK FOR IT.
8/20/09 11:59:18 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 11:59:21 >> IF I MAY,
8/20/09 11:59:22 CHIP FLETCHER.
8/20/09 11:59:24 I WOULD ASK THAT WE HAVE THE
8/20/09 11:59:26 OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WHETHER
8/20/09 11:59:28 THERE ARE ANY APPROVALS THAT
8/20/09 11:59:31 HAVE BEEN REQUESTED THAT
8/20/09 11:59:31 CITY
8/20/09 11:59:33 COUNCIL HAS JURISDICTION OVER.
8/20/09 11:59:36 WE WOULD HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT
8/20/09 11:59:38 SOMETHING COMING TO YOU THAT
8/20/09 11:59:40 MAY CONSTITUTE PREJUDGING OR
8/20/09 11:59:42 OTHERWISE INTERFERING WITH THE
8/20/09 11:59:43 FURTHER ACTION YOU MAY HAVE.
8/20/09 11:59:47 WITH THAT, I JUST WANTED TO
8/20/09 11:59:48 MAKE THAT CLEAR.
8/20/09 11:59:51 THAT APPEAL COULD COME TO CITY
8/20/09 11:59:52 COUNCIL.
8/20/09 11:59:53 WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL PHOTO TO
8/20/09 11:59:56 CREATE A RECORD THAT WOULD BE
8/20/09 11:59:59 PROBLEMATIC IN THE EVENT THAT A
8/20/09 12:00:01 DEMOLITION WAS SOUGHT AND WAS
8/20/09 12:00:03 DENIED AND CAME TO COUNCIL ON
8/20/09 12:00:03 APPEAL.
8/20/09 12:00:06 >> THIS SHOULD BE HIGHLY
8/20/09 12:00:06 SUNSHINY.
8/20/09 12:00:07 IT WOULD BE PUBLIC INFORMATION
8/20/09 12:00:09 THAT OUR OWN STAFF WOULD BE
8/20/09 12:00:11 SHARING WITH US.
8/20/09 12:00:12 >> YES.
8/20/09 12:00:13 THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT'S A
8/20/09 12:00:15 PROCESS THAT AFFECTS AN
8/20/09 12:00:17 INDIVIDUAL'S PROPERTY RIGHTS.
8/20/09 12:00:19 WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT
8/20/09 12:00:21 CREATING ANY LIABILITIES FOR
8/20/09 12:00:23 THE CITY IN THE CHANCE THEY
8/20/09 12:00:26 WOULD DENY THE PERMIT FOR
8/20/09 12:00:26 DEMOLITION.
8/20/09 12:00:28 >> SO THE MOTION WOULD INCLUDE
8/20/09 12:00:28 THAT?
8/20/09 12:00:31 THAT'S WHAT
8/20/09 12:00:34 YOU'RE STATING?
8/20/09 12:00:36 OKAY.
8/20/09 12:00:39 ALL
8/20/09 12:00:41 IN FAVOR.
8/20/09 12:00:42 AYE.
8/20/09 12:00:45 STILL WAITING ON
8/20/09 12:00:45 THE TALLY.
8/20/09 12:00:46 >> SANDY MARSHALL.
8/20/09 12:00:48 THE RESULTS OF THE LAST BALLOT
8/20/09 12:00:51 FOR THE TWO AT LARGE POSITIONS.
8/20/09 12:00:54 MR. SAMUELS RECEIVED 7
8/20/09 12:00:54 VOTES.
8/20/09 12:00:56 TIM RECEIVED 5. AND MR. BUTLER
8/20/09 12:00:59 RECEIVED
8/20/09 12:01:00 2.
8/20/09 12:01:04 >> MR. JACKSON ALREADY
8/20/09 12:01:06 GOT ONE.
8/20/09 12:01:07 >> COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO
8/20/09 12:01:09 DETERMINE WHAT THE TERMS ARE.
8/20/09 12:01:10 I WILL BE READVERTISING FOR THE
8/20/09 12:01:14 POSITIONS THAT HAVE NOT
8/20/09 12:01:14 BEEN
8/20/09 12:01:14 FILLED.
8/20/09 12:01:17 >>
8/20/09 12:01:18 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 12:01:21 >>
8/20/09 12:01:24 THANK
8/20/09 12:01:26 YOU.
8/20/09 12:01:28 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 12:01:29 REAL QUICK.
8/20/09 12:01:31 KUDOS TO SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
8/20/09 12:01:33 THEY RECEIVED THIS OLD HOUSE
8/20/09 12:01:34 MAGAZINE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THE
8/20/09 12:01:37 BEST PLACE FOR SOUTHERN LIVING.
8/20/09 12:01:40 I'D LIKE TO GIVE THEM
8/20/09 12:01:43 AN
8/20/09 12:01:45 ACCOMMODATION.
8/20/09 12:01:45 >> MOTION.
8/20/09 12:01:45 SECOND.
8/20/09 12:01:47 >> LASTLY, I'D LIKE TO SET A
8/20/09 12:01:49 WORKSHOP FOR DISCUSSING OUR
8/20/09 12:01:51 LIQUOR RULES AND SOME OF THE
8/20/09 12:01:53 OTHER ISSUES ON OCTOBER 22
8/20/09 12:01:56 *PBDZ 2nd
8/20/09 12:01:58 AT 10:00.
8/20/09 12:02:00 WE ONLY HAVE ONE THING ON THE
8/20/09 12:02:01 AGENDA RIGHT NOW.
8/20/09 12:02:03 >> MOVE AND SECOND.
8/20/09 12:02:06 ALL
8/20/09 12:02:08 IN FAVOR.
8/20/09 12:02:08 AYE.
8/20/09 12:02:11 >> LET'S PICK
8/20/09 12:02:14 UP NEW ITEMS
8/20/09 12:02:17 RIGHT
8/20/09 12:02:20 AFTER
8/20/09 12:02:22 LUNCH.
8/20/09 12:02:22 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 12:02:24 >> IT'S $1 MILLION TO BE SPENT
8/20/09 12:02:26 ON NEW WINDOWS FOR THIS
8/20/09 12:02:27 BUILDING WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE
8/20/09 12:02:29 THEY ARE ALL LEAKING.
8/20/09 12:02:31 THE QUESTION I ASKED HIM WAS
8/20/09 12:02:34 CAN WE DO WHAT WE DO AT THE
8/20/09 12:02:35 MUSEUM WHICH IS BUY THEM
8/20/09 12:02:38 OURSELVES AND SAVE THE
8/20/09 12:02:39 SALES
8/20/09 12:02:39 TAX.
8/20/09 12:02:41 I TALKED TO THEM AND THEY SAID
8/20/09 12:02:43 IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE SINCE
8/20/09 12:02:44 THEY ARE CUSTOM WINDOWS, WE
8/20/09 12:02:47 DON'T WANT TO BE THE DIRECT
8/20/09 12:02:47 PURCHASER.
8/20/09 12:02:49 WE WANT THE VENDOR TO BE THE
8/20/09 12:02:52 PURCHASER SO THEY WILL HAVE TO
8/20/09 12:02:54 WARRANT AND SERVICE THEM IN
8/20/09 12:02:55 ADDITION TO THEIR INSTALLATION.
8/20/09 12:02:58 THAT WAS AN ADEQUATE
8/20/09 12:03:00 EXPLANATION FOR ME.
8/20/09 12:03:03 IN THIS CASE, WE'LL JUST
8/20/09 12:03:05 PAY
8/20/09 12:03:05 THE SALES TAX AND GET THE
8/20/09 12:03:05 WARRANTEE.
8/20/09 12:03:08 CHARLEY HAD A QUESTION ON
8/20/09 12:03:11 THAT
8/20/09 12:03:11 ONE.
8/20/09 12:03:12 >> I MOVE ITEM 33.
8/20/09 12:03:15 >> I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT
8/20/09 12:03:15 UP.
8/20/09 12:03:17 IT BRINGS UP THE QUESTION FOR
8/20/09 12:03:20 ME, ARE
8/20/09 12:03:21 THESE HISTORICALLY
8/20/09 12:03:24 APPROPRIATE WITHIN THE
8/20/09 12:03:24 REQUIREMENTS?
8/20/09 12:03:26 >> THEY ARE.
8/20/09 12:03:28 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 12:03:31 WITH
8/20/09 12:03:34 THAT
8/20/09 12:03:35 THEN, SECOND.
8/20/09 12:03:36 ALL IN FAVOR.
8/20/09 12:03:36 AYE.
8/20/09 12:03:39 WE STAND IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30.
8/20/09 12:03:40 WE WILL CONTINUE NEW BUSINESS
8/20/09 12:03:43 AT THAT TIME.

8/20/09 13:33:20 CALL.
8/20/09 13:33:21 CITY COUNCIL WILL COME TO
8/20/09 13:33:21 ORDER.
8/20/09 13:33:22 WE'LL NOW HAVE ROLE CALL.
8/20/09 13:33:24 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 13:33:26 WE'LL PICK UP ON OUR 130 ITEMS.
8/20/09 13:33:29 WE COMPLETED
8/20/09 13:33:32 OUR MORNING
8/20/09 13:33:38 AGENDA.
8/20/09 13:33:50 WE'LL DEAL WITH
8/20/09 13:33:51 CONTINUANCE
8/20/09 13:33:51 FIRST.
8/20/09 13:33:54 ITEM 10 #
8/20/09 13:33:56 IS A CONTINUANCE.
8/20/09 13:33:58 >> PROFESSING CONTINUANCE TO
8/20/09 13:34:00 SEPTEMBER 17TH AT 1:30 IN THE
8/20/09 13:34:00 AFTERNOON.
8/20/09 13:34:02 IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WISH TO
8/20/09 13:34:02 ADD?
8/20/09 13:34:02 >> NO.
8/20/09 13:34:04 >> IS THERE --
8/20/09 13:34:07 >> AND ONE NEEDS TO SPEAK FOR
8/20/09 13:34:10 THIS
8/20/09 13:34:13 ITEM.
8/20/09 13:34:16 WE
8/20/09 13:34:19 PROBABLY NEED
8/20/09 13:34:22 SEPTEMBER 17TH
8/20/09 13:34:23 AT 12:30.
8/20/09 13:34:23 2009.
8/20/09 13:34:26 ITEM IN LIEU BY COUNCILMAN
8/20/09 13:34:28 MILLER, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
8/20/09 13:34:28 MILLER.
8/20/09 13:34:31 ALL IN FAVOR CONSIDER BY
8/20/09 13:34:33 SAYING
8/20/09 13:34:33 AYE.
8/20/09 13:34:33 >> PROPOSALS.
8/20/09 13:34:33 OKAY.
8/20/09 13:34:36 I BELIEVE THE OTHERTY
8/20/09 13:34:40 TESTIMONY
8/20/09 13:34:41 THAT IS NUMBER 113.
8/20/09 13:34:43 IS THERE ANY OTHER ITEM THAT IS
8/20/09 13:34:46 CONCERNS A CONTINUE
8/20/09 13:34:47 CONTINUANCE
8/20/09 13:34:47 THIS AFTERNOON?
8/20/09 13:34:48 >> I THINK THAT IS THE ONLY ONE
8/20/09 13:34:50 THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF
8/20/09 13:34:53 CONTINUANCE
8/20/09 13:34:56 THAT WE
8/20/09 13:35:02 HAVE.
8/20/09 13:35:05 >> YOU RECEIVED THE MEMORANDUM
8/20/09 13:35:07 FROM MR. FLECHE BORE IS
8/20/09 13:35:07 PRESENT.
8/20/09 13:35:07 >> RIGHT.
8/20/09 13:35:09 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, ON THIS ITEM
8/20/09 13:35:11 113 WE HAVE BEEN IN DIALOGUE
8/20/09 13:35:12 WITH THE PETITIONER.
8/20/09 13:35:14 AS I INDICATED IN MY MEMO, WE
8/20/09 13:35:17 HAVE SOME LEGAL ISSUES STILL
8/20/09 13:35:17 OUTSTANDING.
8/20/09 13:35:18 I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE GOING
8/20/09 13:35:20 TO AGREE TO A CONTINUANCE TO
8/20/09 13:35:21 REALLY --MY UNDERSTANDING, AS
8/20/09 13:35:23 SOON AS WE CAN GET IT
8/20/09 13:35:23 RESCHEDULED.
8/20/09 13:35:25 I BELIEVE WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS
8/20/09 13:35:27 OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING,
8/20/09 13:35:27 PLEASE.
8/20/09 13:35:30 >> YOUR MOVE?
8/20/09 13:35:31 >> SECOND?
8/20/09 13:35:34 >> ALL IN FAVOR SECOND BY
8/20/09 13:35:35 SAYING AYE.
8/20/09 13:35:35 >> PROPOSALS.
8/20/09 13:35:35 WEAR?
8/20/09 13:35:37 --SWEAR IN ALL THE WITNESSES.
8/20/09 13:35:38 >> FOR THIS AFTERNOON.
8/20/09 13:35:39 >> ALL WITNESSES.
8/20/09 13:35:40 THAT IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING
8/20/09 13:35:40 THIS AFTERNOON.
8/20/09 13:35:42 IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE TALKING,
8/20/09 13:35:45 SPEAKING, GIVE IT TO THEM.
8/20/09 13:35:47 >> DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR
8/20/09 13:35:48 AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE
8/20/09 13:35:50 WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT
8/20/09 13:35:50 THE TRUTH?
8/20/09 13:35:51 >> I DO.
8/20/09 13:35:54 >>
8/20/09 13:35:57 AND THANK
8/20/09 13:36:03 YOU.
8/20/09 13:36:06 WE REPRESENT THE PETITIONER
8/20/09 13:36:06 IN
8/20/09 13:36:07 THIS MATTER.
8/20/09 13:36:07 WE, AT THIS STAGE, HAVE NO
8/20/09 13:36:10 OBJECTION TO THE
8/20/09 13:36:12 TWO-WEEK
8/20/09 13:36:12 CONTINUANCE.
8/20/09 13:36:15 HOWEVER, YANG WHO IS
8/20/09 13:36:15 HERE THIS
8/20/09 13:36:18 MORNING HAS RAISED AN ISSUE
8/20/09 13:36:19 ON
8/20/09 13:36:19 NOTICE.
8/20/09 13:36:21 I HAVE ADD VISES --ADVISED
8/20/09 13:36:21 HER.
8/20/09 13:36:23 WE ARE REQUESTING A TWO-WEEK
8/20/09 13:36:23 CONTINUANCE.
8/20/09 13:36:24 SHE IS TRYING TO CONTACT HER
8/20/09 13:36:25 CLIENT RIGHT NOW TO DETERMINE
8/20/09 13:36:27 WLRNT THEY ARE WILLING TO WAIVE
8/20/09 13:36:29 THE 30-DAY NOTICE AND GO WITH
8/20/09 13:36:30 THE TWO-WEEK NOTICE.
8/20/09 13:36:32 SO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN
8/20/09 13:36:35 POSTPONE THIS FOR ANOTHER
8/20/09 13:36:35 FEW
8/20/09 13:36:37 MINUTES UNTIL I HEAR BACK FROM
8/20/09 13:36:37 HER.
8/20/09 13:36:38 >> SURE, I WOULD HOLD IT.
8/20/09 13:36:40 >> ANOTHER THING I WOULD LIKE
8/20/09 13:36:42 TO DO IS ENTER INTO THE RECORD
8/20/09 13:36:43 THE SEVERAL LETTERS OF SUPPORT
8/20/09 13:36:44 WE DO HAVE.
8/20/09 13:36:46 WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO DO
8/20/09 13:36:47 THAT NOW?
8/20/09 13:36:48 AND I HAVE PACKAGES FOR ALL OF
8/20/09 13:36:50 YOU AND I WOULD LIKE TO PUT ONE
8/20/09 13:36:53 INTO THE
8/20/09 13:36:55 RECORD.
8/20/09 13:36:55 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 13:36:58 GO
8/20/09 13:37:04 AHEAD.
8/20/09 13:37:06 AND JUST VERY QUICKLY.
8/20/09 13:37:08 THEY ARE FROM THE BEST GROUP.
8/20/09 13:37:09 THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC
8/20/09 13:37:12 ASSOCIATION, THE M AT THAT PA
8/20/09 13:37:14 HEIGHTS PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.
8/20/09 13:37:16 THE STEWARDSHIP TEAM INC.
8/20/09 13:37:19 AND ASSISTANT PRINCIPLE AT LAKE
8/20/09 13:37:19 HIGH SCHOOL.
8/20/09 13:37:22 >> AND SUPPORT?
8/20/09 13:37:24 >> I'M NOT SURE IF THERE IS
8/20/09 13:37:27 ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION OR
8/20/09 13:37:27 NOT.
8/20/09 13:37:28 >> AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8/20/09 13:37:30 >> AND CHAIRMAN, I --I LOOK AT
8/20/09 13:37:33 BODY LANGUAGE MORE THAN
8/20/09 13:37:34 WHAT
8/20/09 13:37:34 PEOPLE SAY.
8/20/09 13:37:35 THEY WERE SPEAKING TO EACH
8/20/09 13:37:37 OTHER, THEY WERE LOOKING AROUND
8/20/09 13:37:40 SAYING WHO WAS ASKING FOR THE
8/20/09 13:37:40 CONTINUANCE?
8/20/09 13:37:40 IS IT THE PETITIONER OR IS IT
8/20/09 13:37:41 THE CITY?
8/20/09 13:37:43 >> THE CITY.
8/20/09 13:37:46 >>
8/20/09 13:37:47 THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
8/20/09 13:37:49 OUR OFFICE, PLEASE, IT'S
8/20/09 13:37:51 APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A
8/20/09 13:37:51 CONTINUANCE.
8/20/09 13:37:54 >>
8/20/09 13:37:56 IT'S A CITY.
8/20/09 13:37:56 --
8/20/09 13:37:58 >> HOW MANY ISSUES ARE THERE
8/20/09 13:37:59 THAT ARE BEING WORKED ON.
8/20/09 13:38:02 IS IT ONE OR 100?
8/20/09 13:38:05 >> I AM AWARE OF AT LEAST ONE.
8/20/09 13:38:07 AND THERE MAY BE MORE.
8/20/09 13:38:10 AND I HAVE A PARTICULAR
8/20/09 13:38:12 ISSUE
8/20/09 13:38:12 ON ENFORCEMENT --
8/20/09 13:38:15 >> ELECTED OFFICIAL AT LEAST
8/20/09 13:38:16 ONCE.
8/20/09 13:38:19 IT
8/20/09 13:38:21 WOULD BE 1,000.
8/20/09 13:38:22 AND WE DID SPEND A GOOD PORTION
8/20/09 13:38:24 OF THE TIME WORKING ON
8/20/09 13:38:27 OUTSTANDING ISSUES
8/20/09 13:38:30 WITH
8/20/09 13:38:32 TREMENDOUS PROGRESS.
8/20/09 13:38:34 DO YOU HAVE THIS ISSUE WITH HOW
8/20/09 13:38:35 WE'RE GOING TO DO ENFORCEMENT?
8/20/09 13:38:38 >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
8/20/09 13:38:38 >> TWO THINGS.
8/20/09 13:38:41 THIS IS FOR
8/20/09 13:38:43 OUR ATTORNEY, MR.
8/20/09 13:38:43 FLETCHER.
8/20/09 13:38:46 YOU KNOW HOW OFTENTIMES BETWEEN
8/20/09 13:38:48 FIRST AND SECOND READING THERE
8/20/09 13:38:49 ARE THINGS THAT ARE HAMMERED
8/20/09 13:38:49 OUT.
8/20/09 13:38:52 IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL
8/20/09 13:38:54 COULD HAMMER OUT BETWEEN FIRST
8/20/09 13:38:55 AND SECOND READINGS?
8/20/09 13:38:57 THE OTHER ONE IS FROM MR.
8/20/09 13:38:57 GRIMES.
8/20/09 13:38:59 YOU ARE ONE OF THE MOST
8/20/09 13:39:00 COMPLETELY ME PAIRED ATTORNEYS,
8/20/09 13:39:01 THOROUGH AND COMPLETE.
8/20/09 13:39:03 AND YOU COME TO US WITH ALL
8/20/09 13:39:04 THESE SUPPORT LETTERS, AND I AM
8/20/09 13:39:07 SURE YOU HAVE A
8/20/09 13:39:08 FABULOUS
8/20/09 13:39:09 PRESENTATION THAT YOU ASK FOR
8/20/09 13:39:11 TEN MORE MINUTES BEYOND THE 20
8/20/09 13:39:11 MINUTES.
8/20/09 13:39:13 I REALLY HOPE YOU WON'T REALLY
8/20/09 13:39:14 NEED THAT WHEN THE DAY COMES.
8/20/09 13:39:17 >> I HOPE YOU
8/20/09 13:39:20 ARE
8/20/09 13:39:20 RIGHT.
8/20/09 13:39:21 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 13:39:21 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 13:39:23 >> WE CAN WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT
8/20/09 13:39:26 HEARING
8/20/09 13:39:29 TO DETERMINE
8/20/09 13:39:32 THAT.
8/20/09 13:39:33 SHE WASN'T ABLE TO REACH HER
8/20/09 13:39:33 CLIENT YET.
8/20/09 13:39:35 YOU CAN WAIT JUST A LITTLE BIT
8/20/09 13:39:35 LONGER.
8/20/09 13:39:38 >>
8/20/09 13:39:41 SURE, THANK
8/20/09 13:39:44 YOU.
8/20/09 13:39:47 WAS THAT THE ITEM
8/20/09 13:39:48 110?
8/20/09 13:39:51 >>
8/20/09 13:39:53 110.
8/20/09 13:39:53 THAT'S CORRECT.
8/20/09 13:39:56 ITEM
8/20/09 13:40:02 110.
8/20/09 13:40:05 IS
8/20/09 13:40:05 THAT?
8/20/09 13:40:06 OH, OKAY.
8/20/09 13:40:09 >> DID HE NEED TO
8/20/09 13:40:12 SPEAK
8/20/09 13:40:13 BEFORE
8/20/09 13:40:13 ME?
8/20/09 13:40:14 THANK YOU COUNCIL.
8/20/09 13:40:17 THESE ARE THE BUSINESSES WHO
8/20/09 13:40:20 FILED SOME REPORTS
8/20/09 13:40:21 LATE.
8/20/09 13:40:23 FOR THE DECEMBER, 2008 CYCLE.
8/20/09 13:40:25 WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE INITIAL
8/20/09 13:40:25 LIST.
8/20/09 13:40:28 WE HAD SEVERAL LOCATIONS ON
8/20/09 13:40:28 THAT.
8/20/09 13:40:30 WE HAVE NARROWED IT DOWN TO, AS
8/20/09 13:40:32 YOU CAN SEE, ON THE AGENDA A
8/20/09 13:40:34 THROUGH P. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO
8/20/09 13:40:35 DO FIRST, I'M GOING TO TAKE
8/20/09 13:40:37 THESE IN DIFFERENT SECTIONS.
8/20/09 13:40:40 LETTER D, E, K, L, AND
8/20/09 13:40:41 M. THAT
8/20/09 13:40:44 IS ISLAND CAREER RESTAURANT,
8/20/09 13:40:47 LATIN CAFE, SOHO SUSHI AND
8/20/09 13:40:48 ROYAL PALACE ACTUALLY NEED TO
8/20/09 13:40:49 BE REMOVED FROM THE LIST.
8/20/09 13:40:51 >> COULD YOU GIVE US THAT
8/20/09 13:40:51 AGAIN, PLEASE?
8/20/09 13:40:54 >> IT'S LETTER D, E, K, L,
8/20/09 13:40:56 M.
8/20/09 13:40:56 >> EASY.
8/20/09 13:40:56 EASY.
8/20/09 13:40:59 >> D E E,
8/20/09 13:41:01 K, L, M, THOSE
8/20/09 13:41:04 ACTUALLY CAN BE REMOVED
8/20/09 13:41:06 FROM
8/20/09 13:41:06 THE LIST.
8/20/09 13:41:08 AND ALL RIGHT, IF YOU WANT TO
8/20/09 13:41:10 MAKE SEPARATE MOTIONS FOR THESE
8/20/09 13:41:11 YOU CERTAINLY CAN OR WE CAN
8/20/09 13:41:13 HANDLE THEM ON THE END.
8/20/09 13:41:15 I WOULD RECOMMEND SEPARATE
8/20/09 13:41:15 MOTIONS.
8/20/09 13:41:16 >> MOTIONS TO REMOVE THOSE ON
8/20/09 13:41:17 THE LIST, PLEASE.
8/20/09 13:41:19 >> MOTION TO REMOVE.
8/20/09 13:41:20 D. IF I UNDERSTOOD RIGHT.
8/20/09 13:41:23 DID D, E, K, L, M, BUT THE
8/20/09 13:41:26 MOTION HAS TO HAVE A
8/20/09 13:41:27 REASON.
8/20/09 13:41:27 WHY?
8/20/09 13:41:27 >> OH.
8/20/09 13:41:29 THOSE IN PARTICULAR --THERE
8/20/09 13:41:30 WERE NEW TENANTS THAT CAME IN,
8/20/09 13:41:32 AND TWO OF THEM, AND IT WAS
8/20/09 13:41:34 JUST A PROCESSING ERROR IN THE
8/20/09 13:41:36 DATABASE THAT WE HAVE.
8/20/09 13:41:39 K, L, AND M. AND
8/20/09 13:41:40 ACTUALLY IT'S
8/20/09 13:41:41 A PERMANANT ISSUE.
8/20/09 13:41:43 THE BUSINESS TAX SYSTEM DIDN'T
8/20/09 13:41:43 CORRESPOND.
8/20/09 13:41:45 AS YOU KNOW, AS YOU HAD
8/20/09 13:41:46 PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE WITH OUR
8/20/09 13:41:46 SYSTEM.
8/20/09 13:41:48 THEY ARE ALL DIFFERENT AND THEY
8/20/09 13:41:49 DON'T TALK TO ONE ANOTHER.
8/20/09 13:41:52 SO THEY WERE ERRORS
8/20/09 13:41:55 IN THE
8/20/09 13:41:59 REPORT.
8/20/09 13:42:00 SECOND BY AYE.
8/20/09 13:42:03 >> SIEGED BY COUNCILMAN
8/20/09 13:42:04 MOORE.
8/20/09 13:42:07 >> THANK
8/20/09 13:42:10 YOU.
8/20/09 13:42:12 LETTER F. AND G. AND AS WELL AS
8/20/09 13:42:14 LETTER O. AND ITALIAN
8/20/09 13:42:14 CHOPHOUSE.
8/20/09 13:42:17 AND THEY HAVE ALL COME
8/20/09 13:42:18 INTO
8/20/09 13:42:18 COMPLIANCE.
8/20/09 13:42:20 THEY ARE RECOMMENDING NO
8/20/09 13:42:20 SUSPENSION.
8/20/09 13:42:22 IT IS UP TO COUNCIL MEMBER IF
8/20/09 13:42:23 YOU WOULD LIKE TO SUSPEND GIVEN
8/20/09 13:42:24 THAT THEY WERE LATE.
8/20/09 13:42:26 THEY HAVE FILED PAPERWORK AND
8/20/09 13:42:27 PAID THE FEE.
8/20/09 13:42:28 WE ARE RECOMMENDING THOSE
8/20/09 13:42:29 SUSPENSIONS.
8/20/09 13:42:31 >> CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, BASED ON
8/20/09 13:42:32 THE FACTS THAT WE HAVE HEARD.
8/20/09 13:42:34 I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE F,
8/20/09 13:42:35 GRKSZ, AND O.
8/20/09 13:42:37 >> MOVE TO SECOND.
8/20/09 13:42:40 BY COUNCILMAN DEAN ALL IN
8/20/09 13:42:41 FAVOR.
8/20/09 13:42:42 >> AYE.
8/20/09 13:42:42 >> OPPOSES?
8/20/09 13:42:45 >> LETTERS B AND C. COMFORT IN
8/20/09 13:42:46 --AND BILLIARDS.
8/20/09 13:42:47 THEY HAVE COMPLIED.
8/20/09 13:42:48 THEY HAVE FILED THE PAPERWORK
8/20/09 13:42:50 AND PAID THE FEES.
8/20/09 13:42:52 HOWEVER, THEY DO I HAVE HAS TRY
8/20/09 13:42:53 --HISTORY OF CONSISTENTLY
8/20/09 13:42:55 BEING LATE AND FILING PAPER
8/20/09 13:42:55 LATE.
8/20/09 13:42:57 HOWEVER, WE ARE RECOMMENDING NO
8/20/09 13:42:58 SUSPENSION FOR THEM.
8/20/09 13:42:59 I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT ON THE
8/20/09 13:43:01 RECORD THAT THEY DO HAVE A LONG
8/20/09 13:43:04 HISTORY IN THE PAST OF
8/20/09 13:43:06 VERY
8/20/09 13:43:07 OFTEN FILING LATE AND NOT
8/20/09 13:43:09 COMPLYING WITH THE CODE.
8/20/09 13:43:11 HOWEVER, THIS CYCLE, THEY DID
8/20/09 13:43:11 COME INTO COMPLIANCE.
8/20/09 13:43:14 I JUST WANTED IT ON THE RECORD
8/20/09 13:43:16 THAT THEY --WE'RE AWARE OF
8/20/09 13:43:17 THIS SITUATION BASICALLY.
8/20/09 13:43:19 AND WE WOULD HOPE THAT THEY
8/20/09 13:43:20 WOULD CONTINUE TO COMPLY WITH
8/20/09 13:43:21 CODE ON TIME.
8/20/09 13:43:23 BUT WE ARE RECOMMENDING NO
8/20/09 13:43:24 SUSPENSION AT THIS TIME.
8/20/09 13:43:25 >> WELL, LET ME ASK THE
8/20/09 13:43:25 QUESTION.
8/20/09 13:43:27 DO THEY HAVE A HISTORY OF THIS?
8/20/09 13:43:28 YOU WANT IT ON THE RECORD.
8/20/09 13:43:30 IT'S BEEN ON THE RECORD BEFORE.
8/20/09 13:43:31 >> IT HAS BEEN.
8/20/09 13:43:32 >> RIGHT.
8/20/09 13:43:34 >> SO NOW YOU'RE TELLING US YOU
8/20/09 13:43:37 HOPE THAT THEY WILL COMPLY NEXT
8/20/09 13:43:39 TIME WHICH IS NEXT YEAR; RIGHT?
8/20/09 13:43:41 >> WE ARE ACTUALLY IN A CYCLE
8/20/09 13:43:43 RIGHT NOW.
8/20/09 13:43:43 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 13:43:46 >> SO PUT IT ON THE
8/20/09 13:43:47 RECORD HAS
8/20/09 13:43:48 --JUST SIMPLY JUST ON THE
8/20/09 13:43:52 RECORD THAT THEY
8/20/09 13:43:54 HAVE A
8/20/09 13:43:54 HISTORY?
8/20/09 13:43:55 WE ARE RECOMMENDING NO
8/20/09 13:43:58 SUSPENSION AT THIS
8/20/09 13:43:59 TIME.
8/20/09 13:44:01 >> SOME ISSUES.
8/20/09 13:44:02 >> AND IN THE DEPARTMENT.
8/20/09 13:44:03 I THINK WE'RE IN THE PROCESS
8/20/09 13:44:04 RIGHT NOW WHERE STAFF IS
8/20/09 13:44:06 LETTING ME KNOW WHICH ONES THEY
8/20/09 13:44:08 RECOMMEND THAT YOU REMOVE FROM
8/20/09 13:44:09 THE AGENDA TODAY AND NOT HOLD
8/20/09 13:44:10 PUBLIC HEARINGS ON.
8/20/09 13:44:11 I WANT TO BE CAUTIOUS THAT WE
8/20/09 13:44:14 ARE NOT STARTING TO HOLD
8/20/09 13:44:15 MULTIPLE PUBLIC HEARINGS WITH
8/20/09 13:44:18 EVIDENCE COMING IN AT THIS
8/20/09 13:44:20 TIME, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED
8/20/09 13:44:20 REMOVAL.
8/20/09 13:44:21 IT SHOULD EITHER BE REMOVED.
8/20/09 13:44:23 IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE FURTHER
8/20/09 13:44:25 DISCUSSION ON IT THEN WE NEED
8/20/09 13:44:26 TO OPEN UP THE INDIVIDUAL
8/20/09 13:44:27 PUBLIC HEARINGS UNTIL THEY HAVE
8/20/09 13:44:28 AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND.
8/20/09 13:44:29 >> ARE THEY HERE?
8/20/09 13:44:31 >> I'M NOT SURE.
8/20/09 13:44:31 >> MR. CHAIRMAN?
8/20/09 13:44:34 >> ARE
8/20/09 13:44:35 THEY HERE?
8/20/09 13:44:36 >> YES.
8/20/09 13:44:39 >> I WOULD MOVE TO
8/20/09 13:44:45 TAKE STAFF'S
8/20/09 13:44:46 RECOMMENDATION.
8/20/09 13:44:46 >> THAT'S FINE.
8/20/09 13:44:48 >> ALL RIGHT.
8/20/09 13:44:49 MOTION ALL IN FAVOR.
8/20/09 13:44:52 THINK ABOUT SAYING
8/20/09 13:44:52 AYE.
8/20/09 13:44:53 >> MOTION.
8/20/09 13:44:53 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 13:44:56 >> THE NEXT ONE LETTER A CAFE
8/20/09 13:44:57 LYNN IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE.
8/20/09 13:45:00 THEY DID FILE THE PAPERWORK.
8/20/09 13:45:01 HOWEVER, THEY HAVE NOT PAID THE
8/20/09 13:45:01 FEE.
8/20/09 13:45:03 SO THEY HAVE NOT ACTUALLY COME
8/20/09 13:45:04 INTO COMPLIANCE.
8/20/09 13:45:07 SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING
8/20/09 13:45:10 A 30-DAY
8/20/09 13:45:13 SUSPENSION.
8/20/09 13:45:14 >> EXCUSE ME.
8/20/09 13:45:16 >> HOW, I BELIEVE YOU'LL HANDLE
8/20/09 13:45:17 THE REMAINDERS OF THESE AS YOU
8/20/09 13:45:19 HAVE IN THE PAST TO HOLD AN
8/20/09 13:45:20 INDIVIDUAL PUBLIC HEARING ON
8/20/09 13:45:20 EACH OF THEM.
8/20/09 13:45:22 STAFF WILL MAKE THEIR
8/20/09 13:45:23 PRESENTATION AND THE APPLICANT
8/20/09 13:45:24 WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
8/20/09 13:45:24 RESPOND.
8/20/09 13:45:26 I JUST WANT TO REMIND CITY
8/20/09 13:45:28 COUNCIL THAT IF IT IS A FIRST
8/20/09 13:45:31 VIOLATION, YOU WILL HAVE THE
8/20/09 13:45:32 OPPORTUNITY TO DO TWO STEPS.
8/20/09 13:45:33 FIRST, YOU NEED TO DECIDE
8/20/09 13:45:35 WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE IN
8/20/09 13:45:35 VIOLATION.
8/20/09 13:45:37 IF YOU FIND THAT THEY ARE IN
8/20/09 13:45:38 VIOLATION, YOU HAVE THE
8/20/09 13:45:40 OPPORTUNITY TO SUSPEND THEIR
8/20/09 13:45:42 COMOLLIC --ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
8/20/09 13:45:43 PERMIT FROM ZERO TO A MAXIMUM
8/20/09 13:45:44 OF 30 DAYS.
8/20/09 13:45:45 NO MORE THAN 30 DAYS.
8/20/09 13:45:47 AND IN MAKING THE DETERMINATION
8/20/09 13:45:48 IF YOU FIND THEM IN VIOLATION
8/20/09 13:45:51 OF HOW LONG TO SUSPEND THE
8/20/09 13:45:52 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE PERMIT FOR
8/20/09 13:45:53 IT WHICH MAY BE ZERO, YOU
8/20/09 13:45:55 DETERMINE THE GRAVITY OF THE
8/20/09 13:45:57 VIOLATION, ANY ACTIONS TAKEN BY
8/20/09 13:45:59 THE VIOLATER TO CORRECT THE
8/20/09 13:46:01 VIOLATION, AND ANY PREVIOUS
8/20/09 13:46:04 VIOLATIONS COMMITTED BY
8/20/09 13:46:06 THE
8/20/09 13:46:06 VIOLATER.
8/20/09 13:46:07 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 13:46:07 OKAY.
8/20/09 13:46:10 ARE
8/20/09 13:46:12 WE READY?
8/20/09 13:46:12 STAFF?
8/20/09 13:46:14 THE OPERATOR OF CAFE LYNN WAS
8/20/09 13:46:17 JUST
8/20/09 13:46:18 SPEAKING WITH ME.
8/20/09 13:46:19 THEY FILED --ACCORDING TO OUR
8/20/09 13:46:22 RECORDS, THEY FILED
8/20/09 13:46:24 THEIR
8/20/09 13:46:25 REPORT ON FEBRUARY 26, 2009.
8/20/09 13:46:28 WHICH IS WITHIN THE
8/20/09 13:46:30 LATE
8/20/09 13:46:30 PERIOD.
8/20/09 13:46:31 IT'S DUE JANUARY 31ST.
8/20/09 13:46:32 ONCE AN OPERATOR DOESN'T FILE
8/20/09 13:46:33 ON TIME WITHIN THAT PERIOD, WE
8/20/09 13:46:35 THEN FOLLOW UP WITH A SECOND
8/20/09 13:46:36 NOTICE TO THEM SAYING YOU HAVE
8/20/09 13:46:38 AN ADDITIONAL 30 DAYS TO FILE.
8/20/09 13:46:41 AND THERE IS A FEE
8/20/09 13:46:42 ASSOCIATED
8/20/09 13:46:42 WITH THAT.
8/20/09 13:46:44 SH --SHE DID FILE WITHIN THAT
8/20/09 13:46:47 PERIOD BUT DID NOT PAY THE
8/20/09 13:46:47 ADMINISTRATIVE FEE.
8/20/09 13:46:49 SO THAT IS WHY THEY ARE STILL
8/20/09 13:46:49 ON THE LIST.
8/20/09 13:46:51 AT THIS POINT, WE ARE
8/20/09 13:46:52 RECOMMENDING THE SUSPENSION?
8/20/09 13:46:55 >> HOW MUCH IS THE FEE?
8/20/09 13:46:56 >> IT'S A $500 FEE.
8/20/09 13:46:58 >> THEY PAY THAT?
8/20/09 13:46:58 >> YES.
8/20/09 13:47:00 NO, THEY --
8/20/09 13:47:00 >> I'M SORRY.
8/20/09 13:47:02 I THOUGHT YOU SAID DO THEY PAY
8/20/09 13:47:02 THAT?
8/20/09 13:47:03 THEY HAVE NOT PAID THAT.
8/20/09 13:47:05 >> THEY HAVE NOT PAID THAT.
8/20/09 13:47:06 THEY FILED BUT THEY HAVEN'T
8/20/09 13:47:07 PAID IT.
8/20/09 13:47:08 >> THEY DID FILE.
8/20/09 13:47:10 THEY HAVE NOT PAIDED.
8/20/09 13:47:11 >> CHAIRMAN, I --
8/20/09 13:47:13 >> AND YOUR EVIDENCE NOW?
8/20/09 13:47:16 >> YES, THAT USED TO BE, AND WE
8/20/09 13:47:17 USED TO SEND NOTICES.
8/20/09 13:47:19 THEN WE STOPPED SENDING
8/20/09 13:47:19 NOTICES.
8/20/09 13:47:21 >> THERE WAS ONE CYCLE WHERE WE
8/20/09 13:47:23 DID NOT SEND NOTICES BECAUSE
8/20/09 13:47:26 IT'S NOT OBLIGATED BY CODE.
8/20/09 13:47:26 WE REINSTITUTED NOTICE.
8/20/09 13:47:29 IT'S NOT A FORMAL LETTER IN AN
8/20/09 13:47:30 ENVELOPE.
8/20/09 13:47:32 IT'S A POSTCARD THAT IS ABOUT
8/20/09 13:47:32 8.5 BY 5.5.
8/20/09 13:47:34 IT'S COLOR XIZED SO THAT YOU
8/20/09 13:47:35 CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT TO DO.
8/20/09 13:47:37 AND ON THE POSTCARD, WE GIVE
8/20/09 13:47:39 YOU, I THINK, FIVE OR SIX
8/20/09 13:47:41 DIFFERENT OPTIONS ON HOW TO
8/20/09 13:47:41 FILE.
8/20/09 13:47:41 EITHER ELECTRONICALLY.
8/20/09 13:47:43 I CAME FORWARD TO YOU IN THE
8/20/09 13:47:46 LAST SICK O D CYCLE AND TALKED
8/20/09 13:47:47 ABOUT PEOPLE TRYING TO E-MAIL
8/20/09 13:47:50 REPORTS AND HAND THEM IN AND
8/20/09 13:47:51 MAIL THEM IN.
8/20/09 13:47:53 AND WE GIVE YOU ALL THE
8/20/09 13:47:53 OPTIONS.
8/20/09 13:47:54 >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
8/20/09 13:47:56 THAT YOU ARE GIVING THEM
8/20/09 13:47:56 NOTICE.
8/20/09 13:47:57 >> WE DID.
8/20/09 13:47:58 WE SENT POSTCARDS.
8/20/09 13:47:59 AND ACTUALLY WE HAD THE BEST
8/20/09 13:48:01 COMPLIANCE IN THIS CYCLE WITH
8/20/09 13:48:04 POSTCARDS BETTER THAN ANY OTHER
8/20/09 13:48:07 CYCLE
8/20/09 13:48:09 WITH LETTERS.
8/20/09 13:48:12 THE POSTCARD HAS
8/20/09 13:48:15 ACTUALLY
8/20/09 13:48:15 WORKED.
8/20/09 13:48:18 >>
8/20/09 13:48:24 PETITIONER?
8/20/09 13:48:27 STATE YOUR
8/20/09 13:48:28 NAME FOR THE RECORD,
8/20/09 13:48:28 PLEASE.
8/20/09 13:48:29 >> LEE.
8/20/09 13:48:32 >> I OWN THE
8/20/09 13:48:32 COFFEE --
8/20/09 13:48:32 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 13:48:35 ANYTHING YOU WANT
8/20/09 13:48:36 TO SAY.
8/20/09 13:48:37 IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD
8/20/09 13:48:39 LIKE TO SAY TO COUNCIL.
8/20/09 13:48:42 STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED
8/20/09 13:48:42 SUSPENSION?
8/20/09 13:48:45 >> I WAS
8/20/09 13:48:47 SUPPOSED TO FILE THE
8/20/09 13:48:50 HALF QUARTER FOR THE --BUT MY
8/20/09 13:48:51 CBA LATE.
8/20/09 13:48:54 I KNOW THAT --IT'S
8/20/09 13:48:55 NOT LATE
8/20/09 13:48:57 FAR, BUT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO
8/20/09 13:48:57 THAT.
8/20/09 13:48:58 AND THEN WE FILE LATE.
8/20/09 13:49:01 SO, CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE ME A
8/20/09 13:49:03 CHANCE, YOU KNOW, WHAT I HAVE
8/20/09 13:49:03 TO DO?
8/20/09 13:49:06 THIS TIME NOT LATE.
8/20/09 13:49:08 ONLY LAST YEAR THIS LATE.
8/20/09 13:49:10 >> SO THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME
8/20/09 13:49:11 BEING LATE?
8/20/09 13:49:11 >> YES.
8/20/09 13:49:13 >> FIRST TIME?
8/20/09 13:49:15 >> THE LAST YEAR --THE END OF
8/20/09 13:49:18 THE YEAR, WE FILE, BUT WE FILE
8/20/09 13:49:18 LATE.
8/20/09 13:49:21 AND THE CPA, YOU KNOW, I
8/20/09 13:49:21 --I
8/20/09 13:49:24 DON'T KNOW WHAT TO
8/20/09 13:49:24 DO.
8/20/09 13:49:25 >> CHAIRMAN.
8/20/09 13:49:25 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 13:49:28 NEVER GET A CPA
8/20/09 13:49:29 NAME LATE.
8/20/09 13:49:31 GET ONE NAME EARLY.
8/20/09 13:49:32 >> THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT
8/20/09 13:49:34 THE END OF THE YEAR, BUT, YOU
8/20/09 13:49:38 KNOW, I
8/20/09 13:49:40 HAVE THAT ONE.
8/20/09 13:49:40 YES.
8/20/09 13:49:41 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE THE
8/20/09 13:49:44 ONLY THING THAT IS STILL OUT OF
8/20/09 13:49:44 REBECCA'S DEPARTMENT.
8/20/09 13:49:45 I BELIEVE THE ONLY THING THAT
8/20/09 13:49:47 IS STILL OUT OF COMPLIANCE IS
8/20/09 13:49:48 THE $500 FEE.
8/20/09 13:49:50 YOU DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
8/20/09 13:49:51 CONTINUE THIS TO ALLOW HER TO
8/20/09 13:49:53 PAY THAT FEE AND THEN IT WOULD
8/20/09 13:49:54 BE, YOU WOULD CONTINUE THIS TO
8/20/09 13:49:57 A DATE CERTAIN, AND YOU COULD
8/20/09 13:49:59 DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE
8/20/09 13:50:01 WAS A VIOLATION OR YOU CAN FIND
8/20/09 13:50:03 A VIOLATION NOW AND PUT IT OFF
8/20/09 13:50:03 HER SENTENCING.
8/20/09 13:50:04 YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
8/20/09 13:50:06 CONTINUE THIS TO ALLOW HER TO
8/20/09 13:50:06 PAY THE FEE.
8/20/09 13:50:08 IF AT THE --THE FEE CANNOT BE
8/20/09 13:50:10 WAIVED SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO
8/20/09 13:50:11 BE PAID?
8/20/09 13:50:13 >> ARE YOU PREPARED TO PAY THE
8/20/09 13:50:14 FEE?
8/20/09 13:50:15 >> DID YOU BRING --DID YOU
8/20/09 13:50:18 BRING
8/20/09 13:50:20 A CHECK?
8/20/09 13:50:23 >>
8/20/09 13:50:24 YES.
8/20/09 13:50:25 I REALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE
8/20/09 13:50:27 ANYBODY GETTING SUSPENDED
8/20/09 13:50:30 BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO
8/20/09 13:50:31 HURT
8/20/09 13:50:31 BUSINESS.
8/20/09 13:50:32 >> YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT --YOU
8/20/09 13:50:34 UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CLIENT IS
8/20/09 13:50:34 TELLING YOU?
8/20/09 13:50:36 YOU HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY TODAY
8/20/09 13:50:39 OR DO YOU WANT A FIVE-DAY, TEN-
8/20/09 13:50:39 DAY EXTENSION?
8/20/09 13:50:39 >> YES.
8/20/09 13:50:41 CAN YOU GIVE ME A WEEK OR SO?
8/20/09 13:50:44 I GIVE YOU THE CHECK BUT GIVE
8/20/09 13:50:45 ME --
8/20/09 13:50:47 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I --I
8/20/09 13:50:50 CERTAINLY FEEL SYMPATHETIC TO
8/20/09 13:50:52 THIS SITUATION HERE, AND I LIKE
8/20/09 13:50:55 TO OFFER TEN DAYS WITHOUT
8/20/09 13:50:56 SUSPENSION, AND IF NOT PAID
8/20/09 13:50:58 WITHIN TEN DAYS IN THIS
8/20/09 13:51:00 SUSPENSION, IT TAKES AFFECT.
8/20/09 13:51:01 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
8/20/09 13:51:02 >> I APPRECIATE IT.
8/20/09 13:51:03 >> YOU HAVE TEN DAYS, YOU
8/20/09 13:51:05 UNDERSTAND, TO BRING IN THE
8/20/09 13:51:06 CHECK, FILE YOUR FEES.
8/20/09 13:51:09 YOU HAVE TEN
8/20/09 13:51:10 DAYS.
8/20/09 13:51:11 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 13:51:12 >>> THAT'S RIGHT, CITY COUNCIL
8/20/09 13:51:14 I DID NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND THE
8/20/09 13:51:14 MOTION.
8/20/09 13:51:17 >> THE MOTION MADE IS TEN DAYS
8/20/09 13:51:17 --
8/20/09 13:51:19 >> AND THERE IS THE 20TH.
8/20/09 13:51:22 SHE'S GOT TO THE
8/20/09 13:51:22 30TH.
8/20/09 13:51:23 TEN DAYS.
8/20/09 13:51:26 >> YOU
8/20/09 13:51:27 WITHHOLD SUSPENSION FOR
8/20/09 13:51:28 TEN DAYS.
8/20/09 13:51:29 >> AND YOU TAKE APPROPRIATELY.
8/20/09 13:51:31 >> WHAT YOU TYPICALLY HAVE DONE
8/20/09 13:51:34 TO CITY COUNCIL IS YOU
8/20/09 13:51:35 CONTINUE
8/20/09 13:51:36 THIS HEARING TO A DATE CERTAIN.
8/20/09 13:51:37 IF THEY HAVE NOT PAID BY THAT
8/20/09 13:51:41 DAY, YOU ARE BACK
8/20/09 13:51:42 WHERE THEY
8/20/09 13:51:43 ARE TODAY WITH AN OPPORTUNITY
8/20/09 13:51:44 TO FILE --
8/20/09 13:51:46 >> UNLESS SHE'S GOING TO GET 14
8/20/09 13:51:46 DAYS.
8/20/09 13:51:47 WE'LL GIVE YOU UNTIL THE NEXT
8/20/09 13:51:49 MEETING WHICH IS TWO WEEKS FROM
8/20/09 13:51:49 NOW.
8/20/09 13:51:51 SO SHE JUST GAINED FOUR DAYS.
8/20/09 13:51:52 >> AND IF YOU COULD JUST GET
8/20/09 13:51:54 THE DATE CERTAIN INTO THE
8/20/09 13:51:54 RECORD.
8/20/09 13:51:55 >> WELL, NOW, THE DATE CERTAIN
8/20/09 13:51:57 OF THE RECORD IS THE DAY OF THE
8/20/09 13:51:58 NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
8/20/09 13:51:59 YOU DO THAT, NOT ME.
8/20/09 13:52:00 >> WELL, SEPTEMBER --
8/20/09 13:52:02 >> THE IT WOULD BE SEPTEMBER
8/20/09 13:52:05 3RD AND IT SHOULD
8/20/09 13:52:09 BE PERHAPS AT
8/20/09 13:52:11 10:00 ANAL IN THE MORNING.
8/20/09 13:52:12 YOU DO NOT PRESENTLY HAVE
8/20/09 13:52:13 ANYTHING SCHEDULED FOR THE
8/20/09 13:52:15 AFTERNOON AND NOTHING FOR THE
8/20/09 13:52:15 NIGHT.
8/20/09 13:52:17 IF YOU DO SCHEDULE FOR 1:30 IT
8/20/09 13:52:19 WOULD BE THE ONLY THING ON THE
8/20/09 13:52:19 AGENDA.
8/20/09 13:52:21 >> COULD YOU JUST GIVE IT TO
8/20/09 13:52:21 THEM?
8/20/09 13:52:22 >> THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR
8/20/09 13:52:24 COUNCIL IS IF SHE DOES PAY AND
8/20/09 13:52:26 SHE IS IN COMPLIANCE, WOULD YOU
8/20/09 13:52:27 WAIVE HER AEXPERIENCE ON THAT
8/20/09 13:52:29 DATE AND JUST HAVE STAFF MAKE
8/20/09 13:52:30 THE REPRESENTATION OR DO YOU
8/20/09 13:52:33 WANT HER
8/20/09 13:52:36 TO
8/20/09 13:52:39 APPEAR?
8/20/09 13:52:40 >> THAT WOULD NOT BE MY CALL.
8/20/09 13:52:41 THAT IS A LEGAL ISSUE.
8/20/09 13:52:42 WE HAVE ON THE LINE TOLD PEOPLE
8/20/09 13:52:44 THEY NEED TO BE HERE TO
8/20/09 13:52:44 REPRESENT THEMSELVES.
8/20/09 13:52:46 >> WHAT LEGAL IS SAYING --WHAT
8/20/09 13:52:49 HE IS SAYING TO US IS THAT WE
8/20/09 13:52:49 GENERALLY TYPICALLY DISCONTINUE
8/20/09 13:52:50 AND ALLOW THEM TO CORRECT THEM
8/20/09 13:52:53 AND COME BACK TO THIS PROCESS
8/20/09 13:52:53 IN HEARING.
8/20/09 13:52:54 SO E THAT'S FINE.
8/20/09 13:52:56 SO THE MOTION IS TO CONTINUE TO
8/20/09 13:52:57 SEPTEMBER 3RD AT 10:00 A.M., I
8/20/09 13:52:58 THINK IT IS.
8/20/09 13:52:58 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 13:53:02 >> AND ALL THE PAYMENTS
8/20/09 13:53:05 SAYING
8/20/09 13:53:07 AYE.
8/20/09 13:53:07 >> OPPOSES?
8/20/09 13:53:08 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 13:53:10 >> THANK YOU, FROM DEVELOPMENT.
8/20/09 13:53:11 AND THE NEXT FOUR ITEMS --
8/20/09 13:53:12 THERE'S ONLY FOUR LEFT.
8/20/09 13:53:14 EACH ONE OF THESE WE WILL BE
8/20/09 13:53:16 RECOMMENDING SUSPENSION, AND
8/20/09 13:53:17 THE REASON BEING STARTING WITH
8/20/09 13:53:18 LETTER H, THE HARBOR CLUB IS
8/20/09 13:53:20 THEY HAVE NOT FILED THE
8/20/09 13:53:22 PAPERWORK NOR HAVE THEY PAID
8/20/09 13:53:22 THE FEE.
8/20/09 13:53:24 SO THERE HAS BEEN NO FILING.
8/20/09 13:53:25 WE ARE UNAWARE OF THEIR SALES
8/20/09 13:53:27 AND WHAT OCCURRED IN THAT
8/20/09 13:53:27 CYCLE.
8/20/09 13:53:28 >> ARE THEY HERE?
8/20/09 13:53:31 >> SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING A
8/20/09 13:53:31 30-
8/20/09 13:53:33 DAY SUSPENSION.
8/20/09 13:53:34 >> HARBOR CLUB?
8/20/09 13:53:37 AND ANY ONE OF YOU REPRESENTING
8/20/09 13:53:42 THE HARBOR CLUB?
8/20/09 13:53:44 >> LET ME ASK ONE QUESTION IF I
8/20/09 13:53:45 MAY.
8/20/09 13:53:47 I AM LOOKING AT THE ADDRESS OR
8/20/09 13:53:50 THE NEXT
8/20/09 13:53:50 ONE.
8/20/09 13:53:50 DOGWOOD CAFE.
8/20/09 13:53:51 3611.
8/20/09 13:53:54 AND THAT IS A SHOPPING CENTER
8/20/09 13:53:56 WHERE YOU GOT THE WENDY'S IN
8/20/09 13:53:58 ONE CORNER AND THE DOGWOOD CAFE
8/20/09 13:54:00 IS ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTH END
8/20/09 13:54:01 OF THE SHOPPING CENTER WHICH
8/20/09 13:54:03 FACES --ARE WE SPENDING --
8/20/09 13:54:04 SENDING THIS TO THE SHOPPING
8/20/09 13:54:07 CENTER OR IS THIS THE ADDRESS
8/20/09 13:54:09 OF DOGWOOD ITSELF?
8/20/09 13:54:10 DOGWOOD FACES HIENZ.
8/20/09 13:54:13 >> THEY ARE UNIT
8/20/09 13:54:16 NUMBER 400
8/20/09 13:54:17 --
8/20/09 13:54:17 42.
8/20/09 13:54:20 >> AND WE SENT THE NOTICES
8/20/09 13:54:21 OF
8/20/09 13:54:21 THE VACATION.
8/20/09 13:54:24 AND IT GOES
8/20/09 13:54:27 ON MULTIPLE
8/20/09 13:54:33 PARTIES.
8/20/09 13:54:39 >>
8/20/09 13:54:41 AND --
8/20/09 13:54:44 >>
8/20/09 13:54:47 AND THEY HAVEN'T --THEY ARE
8/20/09 13:54:48 NOT HERE TODAY.
8/20/09 13:54:51 >> AND LET ME ASK ONE OTHER
8/20/09 13:54:51 QUESTION.
8/20/09 13:54:53 >> DOES ANYONE CHECK TO SEE IF
8/20/09 13:54:56 THESE PLACES ARE
8/20/09 13:54:59 STILL
8/20/09 13:54:59 IN
8/20/09 13:54:59 OPERATION?
8/20/09 13:55:01 >> TYPICALLY I BELIEVE THERE IS
8/20/09 13:55:02 AN INSPECTION THROUGH THIS
8/20/09 13:55:02 PROCESS AS WELL.
8/20/09 13:55:04 I CAN'T TELL YOU FOR CERTAIN
8/20/09 13:55:07 THAT THESE PLACES ARE IN
8/20/09 13:55:07 OPERATION.
8/20/09 13:55:07 >> ALL RIGHT.
8/20/09 13:55:10 I WILL WRITE THEM AND LET YOU
8/20/09 13:55:11 KNOW.
8/20/09 13:55:11 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 13:55:11 >> LEGAL --
8/20/09 13:55:14 >> THAT WAS IN FACT
8/20/09 13:55:17 A
8/20/09 13:55:17 SUFFICIENT MOTION.
8/20/09 13:55:20 >> AND NOVEMBER
8/20/09 13:55:23 SECOND IN
8/20/09 13:55:29 FAVOR.
8/20/09 13:55:29 SAYING AYE.
8/20/09 13:55:32 >> THANK YOU,
8/20/09 13:55:33 CATHRYN.
8/20/09 13:55:36 FROM DEVELOPMENT.
8/20/09 13:55:36 ITEM J. AND OREGAMI.
8/20/09 13:55:38 THEY ALSO HAVE NOT FILED THE
8/20/09 13:55:40 PAPERWORK, NOR HAVE THEY PAID
8/20/09 13:55:40 THE FEE.
8/20/09 13:55:43 WE ARE RECOMMENDING A 30-DAY
8/20/09 13:55:44 SUSPENSION.
8/20/09 13:55:46 >> PETITION, ARE YOU HERE?
8/20/09 13:55:47 >> SIR?
8/20/09 13:55:50 >> COME ON TOWN --
8/20/09 13:55:53 COME ON
8/20/09 13:55:53 DOWN.
8/20/09 13:55:53 >> HI.
8/20/09 13:55:56 >> MY NAME ISES WITH LEE --
8/20/09 13:55:57 WESLEY CHOO.
8/20/09 13:55:58 I'M HERE WITH MY MOTHER.
8/20/09 13:56:00 AND SHE SPOKE TO HER COUNCIL,
8/20/09 13:56:03 AND SHE SAID THAT SHE FAXED
8/20/09 13:56:06 OVER
8/20/09 13:56:08 THE REPORT JANUARY 29TH.
8/20/09 13:56:10 AND I GUESS THERE'S NO --SHE
8/20/09 13:56:13 WROTE A LETTER
8/20/09 13:56:14 FOR US.
8/20/09 13:56:14 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 13:56:17 >> AND YOU
8/20/09 13:56:23 FAXED OVER
8/20/09 13:56:23 JANUARY
8/20/09 13:56:23 29TH.
8/20/09 13:56:26 DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF
8/20/09 13:56:30 THAT FAX?
8/20/09 13:56:33 >>
8/20/09 13:56:37 ATTACHED.
8/20/09 13:56:40 >> THE
8/20/09 13:56:46 REPORT.
8/20/09 13:56:49 WE JUST
8/20/09 13:56:51 NEED TO VERIFY.
8/20/09 13:56:53 >> IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I CAN
8/20/09 13:56:55 NOVEMBER LAST TWO AND I CAN
8/20/09 13:56:58 REVIEW
8/20/09 13:57:00 THAT.
8/20/09 13:57:00 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 13:57:03 THAT'S
8/20/09 13:57:04 FINE.
8/20/09 13:57:07 IF I MAY, I'M GOING BACK TO
8/20/09 13:57:07 DOGWOOD CAFE.
8/20/09 13:57:08 IF I MAY QUESTION THE CLERK
8/20/09 13:57:10 JUST TO BE SURE THAT I DID HAVE
8/20/09 13:57:12 THAT ONE, THAT COUNCIL DID
8/20/09 13:57:13 MOTION TO NOT REMOVE IT.
8/20/09 13:57:15 >> WHEN YOU FIRST MENTIONED IT,
8/20/09 13:57:16 IT WASN'T ON THE LIST.
8/20/09 13:57:16 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 13:57:18 WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING
8/20/09 13:57:19 SUSPENSION.
8/20/09 13:57:19 THEY HAVE COMPLIED.
8/20/09 13:57:22 IF THAT COULD BE REMOVED.
8/20/09 13:57:23 >> AND AYE.
8/20/09 13:57:23 >> AYE.
8/20/09 13:57:25 >> THAT IS ONE YOU ASKED ABOUT.
8/20/09 13:57:28 >> MOVED
8/20/09 13:57:32 OR REMOVED.
8/20/09 13:57:32 SECOND.
8/20/09 13:57:33 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 13:57:35 THE NEXT ONE AND --
8/20/09 13:57:36 >> I'M SORRY.
8/20/09 13:57:39 >> ALL IN FAIR
8/20/09 13:57:42 SAY AYE.
8/20/09 13:57:44 >> AYE.
8/20/09 13:57:46 3838 WEST NEAP TUNE STREET.
8/20/09 13:57:49 AS WELL ON THE REPORT THEY
8/20/09 13:57:50 HAVE
8/20/09 13:57:53 NOT FILED OR RECOMMENDING
8/20/09 13:57:56 A 30-
8/20/09 13:57:56 DAY SUSPENSION.
8/20/09 13:57:59 RIB SHACK
8/20/09 13:58:02 NOT
8/20/09 13:58:04 HERE.
8/20/09 13:58:05 >> 30 DAYS.
8/20/09 13:58:05 AND CORRECTIVE ACTION.
8/20/09 13:58:08 AND THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT
8/20/09 13:58:11 HERE OFFERING TESTIMONY TODAY.
8/20/09 13:58:11 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 13:58:14 >> AND BY
8/20/09 13:58:17 COUNCILMAN
8/20/09 13:58:20 SAY
8/20/09 13:58:24 AYE.
8/20/09 13:58:24 30 DAYS.
8/20/09 13:58:27 ITEM
8/20/09 13:58:30 P
8/20/09 13:58:31 1320 TO.
8/20/09 13:58:34 AND RECOMMENDING A
8/20/09 13:58:39 30-DAY
8/20/09 13:58:39 SUSPENSION.
8/20/09 13:58:42 >>
8/20/09 13:58:49 MOTION?
8/20/09 13:58:50 AND
8/20/09 13:58:53 >>
8/20/09 13:58:56 AND BUSINESS
8/20/09 13:59:00 SUSPENSION.
8/20/09 13:59:00 SECTION.
8/20/09 13:59:01 >> YEAH, I SECOND IT.
8/20/09 13:59:04 >> ALL IF IN
8/20/09 13:59:07 FAVOR
8/20/09 13:59:08 SAY PI.
8/20/09 13:59:11 >> THAT'S
8/20/09 13:59:12 REALLY GOOD.
8/20/09 13:59:15 >> WE'RE BACK TO THE COPY
8/20/09 13:59:16 WITH
8/20/09 13:59:16 113.
8/20/09 13:59:19 >> MAYBE WE CAN GET
8/20/09 13:59:22 IT
8/20/09 13:59:25 GOING.
8/20/09 13:59:28 >> ON
8/20/09 13:59:31 311 SOUTH
8/20/09 13:59:32 HOWARD.
8/20/09 13:59:32 YOU REQUEST.
8/20/09 13:59:35 WE'RE BACK TO J. THAT IS THE
8/20/09 13:59:35 ONE --
8/20/09 13:59:37 >> I DIDN'T GET THE PAPERWORK.
8/20/09 13:59:37 I'M SORRY.
8/20/09 13:59:39 IS IT WITH THE CLERK?
8/20/09 13:59:40 >> THEY'RE MAKING COPIES.
8/20/09 13:59:43 >> OH, THEY ARE MAKING COPIES.
8/20/09 13:59:44 I WILL GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT
8/20/09 13:59:45 THAT.
8/20/09 13:59:48 >> BUT THE ISSUE
8/20/09 13:59:49 IS THE FACTS.
8/20/09 13:59:50 I GUESS Y'ALL CAN COAT --I
8/20/09 13:59:52 GUESS Y'ALL CAN GET THE COPY OF
8/20/09 13:59:52 THE FACTS.
8/20/09 13:59:55 >> ACCORDING TO OUR
8/20/09 13:59:56 RECORDS,
8/20/09 13:59:58 THE STAFF MEMBER DID NOT --WE
8/20/09 14:00:02 --WE DIDN'T GET IT
8/20/09 14:00:05 IN
8/20/09 14:00:08 OUR
8/20/09 14:00:17 OFFICE.
8/20/09 14:00:27 MRS. GRIMES?
8/20/09 14:00:30 WILL --ARE YOU READY
8/20/09 14:00:36 WITH YOUR
8/20/09 14:00:36 CASE?
8/20/09 14:00:38 AND IT APPEARS THAT THE NOTARY
8/20/09 14:00:41 STAMP IS DATED JANUARY 28TH,
8/20/09 14:00:44 2009 WHICH IS PRIOR TO THE
8/20/09 14:00:44 FILING DATE.
8/20/09 14:00:46 THERE IS NO DIRECT PROOF THAT
8/20/09 14:00:49 WITH A FAX COVER SHEET OR THE
8/20/09 14:00:52 FAX
8/20/09 14:00:55 IMPRINT
8/20/09 14:00:57 ON IT.
8/20/09 14:00:59 IF I ACTUALLY HAD THIS IN THE
8/20/09 14:01:01 OFFICE, I WOULD ACCEPT IT GIVEN
8/20/09 14:01:01 THE NOTARY DATE.
8/20/09 14:01:03 I WOULD GIVE THEM THE BENEFIT
8/20/09 14:01:03 OF THE DOUBT.
8/20/09 14:01:05 THEY DON'T HAVE A HISTORY OF
8/20/09 14:01:06 LATE FILINGS TO ANY GREAT
8/20/09 14:01:08 EXTENT IN THE PAST, SO I
8/20/09 14:01:11 PROBABLY WOULDN'T
8/20/09 14:01:12 GRANT THAT.
8/20/09 14:01:12 I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND
8/20/09 14:01:13 SUSPENSION AT THIS POINT IN
8/20/09 14:01:13 TIME.
8/20/09 14:01:16 >> SO THEY HAVE TO PAY A FEE?
8/20/09 14:01:17 SO I WOULD ASK THEM TO BE
8/20/09 14:01:20 REMOVED FROM
8/20/09 14:01:21 THE LIST.
8/20/09 14:01:22 >> MOTION?
8/20/09 14:01:25 >> TO
8/20/09 14:01:28 REMOVE ITEM
8/20/09 14:01:31 J. ALL IN
8/20/09 14:01:34 FAVOR
8/20/09 14:01:35 SAY AYE.
8/20/09 14:01:36 >> AND MAYBE TO MAKE THIS MORE
8/20/09 14:01:37 EFFICIENT THAT STAFF CAN COME
8/20/09 14:01:40 UP WHEN WE HAVE THIS ITEM WITH
8/20/09 14:01:41 A LIST OF CATEGORIES PAID.
8/20/09 14:01:43 >> I AGREE WITH YOU.
8/20/09 14:01:44 >> FOR NEXT QUARTER.
8/20/09 14:01:47 WE'LL
8/20/09 14:01:50 GET IT
8/20/09 14:01:51 TOGETHER.
8/20/09 14:01:54 SO, ARE WE THROUGH
8/20/09 14:01:57 WITH THAT
8/20/09 14:02:01 NOW?
8/20/09 14:02:02 GRIMES IS COMING UP.
8/20/09 14:02:05 I WILL SAY
8/20/09 14:02:08 THE SYSTEM IS GOTTEN
8/20/09 14:02:09 A LOT BETTER THAN IT WAS A FEW
8/20/09 14:02:11 YEARS AGO BUT I THINK WE'RE
8/20/09 14:02:12 MAKING GOOD IMPROVEMENTS.
8/20/09 14:02:13 >> I WOULD SAY SO.
8/20/09 14:02:16 YOU
8/20/09 14:02:18 HAVE THE TOOLS NOW TO
8/20/09 14:02:19 CONTROL THESE ISSUES.
8/20/09 14:02:22 >> BACK TO NUMBER 113 MR.
8/20/09 14:02:26 CHAIRMAN.
8/20/09 14:02:29 >> YES,
8/20/09 14:02:31 MR. GRIMES.
8/20/09 14:02:31 THEY WERE WILLING TO GO THROUGH
8/20/09 14:02:33 THE SEPTEMBER SOTH HEARING.
8/20/09 14:02:35 HOWEVER, YOU ONLY HAVE CRAs
8/20/09 14:02:36 SCHEDULED FOR THAT MORNING.
8/20/09 14:02:38 DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO
8/20/09 14:02:39 SCHEDULE IT THAT WEEK OR IF YOU
8/20/09 14:02:41 WANTED TO POSTPONE IT TO THE
8/20/09 14:02:44 FOLLOWING
8/20/09 14:02:46 WEEK.
8/20/09 14:02:47 TO THE 17TH.
8/20/09 14:02:48 I THINK WE SHOULD POSTPONE IT
8/20/09 14:02:49 TO REGULAR COUNCIL MEETINGS.
8/20/09 14:02:52 >> I AGREE
8/20/09 14:02:53 WITH THAT.
8/20/09 14:02:56 >>
8/20/09 14:02:59 AT
8/20/09 14:03:02 9:30.
8/20/09 14:03:05 >> WE HAVE --
8/20/09 14:03:10 AAN APPEAL
8/20/09 14:03:10 HEARING.
8/20/09 14:03:11 YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ THEM
8/20/09 14:03:12 ALL.
8/20/09 14:03:12 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 14:03:12 >> THAT'S FINE.
8/20/09 14:03:14 >> NUMBER ONE.
8/20/09 14:03:16 >> THIS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL THE
8/20/09 14:03:17 17TH AT 1:30.
8/20/09 14:03:19 >> BE THE FIRST ONE ON.
8/20/09 14:03:20 >> CITY COUNCIL, BEFORE YOU
8/20/09 14:03:22 TAKE THAT VOTE, I WOULD LIKE TO
8/20/09 14:03:24 HAVE MISS YANG STATE ON THE
8/20/09 14:03:26 RECORD THAT THEY ARE WAIVING
8/20/09 14:03:26 ANY NOTICE.
8/20/09 14:03:29 >>> GOOD AFTERNOON,
8/20/09 14:03:30 COUNCIL.
8/20/09 14:03:32 AND HERE REPRESENTING THE
8/20/09 14:03:32 UNIVERSITY.
8/20/09 14:03:35 I HAVE SPOKEN WITH IN-HOUSE
8/20/09 14:03:38 COUNCIL AND THE DEAN OF THE
8/20/09 14:03:38 SCHOOL.
8/20/09 14:03:38 THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT THEY
8/20/09 14:03:40 WILL WAIVE THE NOTICE PROVIDED
8/20/09 14:03:43 THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS
8/20/09 14:03:44 HEARING
8/20/09 14:03:45 RESCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 17TH.
8/20/09 14:03:45 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 14:03:48 >> AND IF WE CAN ALSO, MRS.
8/20/09 14:03:49 GRIMES, DO YOU HAVE ANY
8/20/09 14:03:51 OBJECTION TO THIS CONTINUANCE
8/20/09 14:03:53 ON THE 17 PGHT.
8/20/09 14:03:56 >> AND CAN I ASK
8/20/09 14:03:56 ONE QUESTION?
8/20/09 14:03:58 WAS HE THE ONLY PERSON THAT
8/20/09 14:04:01 NEEDED TO
8/20/09 14:04:03 BE NOTICED?
8/20/09 14:04:05 THAT'S IT.
8/20/09 14:04:07 THIS IS NOT 200 ISSUES.
8/20/09 14:04:09 AND YOU HAVE WORKED THEM DOWN
8/20/09 14:04:09 TO HOW MANY?
8/20/09 14:04:10 >> AS FAR AS I KNOW THERE IS
8/20/09 14:04:14 ONE ISSUE THAT'S BEEN ARCTIC
8/20/09 14:04:20 HATED TO
8/20/09 14:04:21 US.
8/20/09 14:04:24 I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE ARE
8/20/09 14:04:25 ANY
8/20/09 14:04:26 OTHER ISSUES AT THIS POINT.
8/20/09 14:04:28 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 14:04:29 >> THE MOTION REMOVES IN
8/20/09 14:04:29 SECOND.
8/20/09 14:04:32 AND ALL IN FAVOR,
8/20/09 14:04:35 SAY AYE.
8/20/09 14:04:37 >> AYE.
8/20/09 14:04:37 OKAY.
8/20/09 14:04:39 WE MOVE TO ITEM 111.
8/20/09 14:04:42 >>
8/20/09 14:04:45 MOVE TO
8/20/09 14:04:48 OPEN.
8/20/09 14:04:48 SAY AYE.
8/20/09 14:04:51 >>
8/20/09 14:04:58 OPPOSED?
8/20/09 14:05:19 FOOD
8/20/09 14:05:21 AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN.
8/20/09 14:05:22 COUNCILMEMBER.
8/20/09 14:05:23 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, AND I
8/20/09 14:05:23 HAVE BEEN SWORN.
8/20/09 14:05:25 AND THE NEXT ITEM ON THIS
8/20/09 14:05:28 AFTERNOON'S AGENDA IS
8/20/09 14:05:29 PETITION
8/20/09 14:05:29 NUMBER V09, 344.
8/20/09 14:05:32 IT'S FOR THE PROPERLY TOAKT --
8/20/09 14:05:34 PROPERTY LOCATED AT --THE
8/20/09 14:05:35 PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED
8/20/09 14:05:36 COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
8/20/09 14:05:38 THE PROPOSED SPECIAL USE IS FOR
8/20/09 14:05:40 ALCOHOLIC --ALCOHOLIC BEV RANL
8/20/09 14:05:42 SALES, SMALL VENUE, TO APS.
8/20/09 14:05:44 THIS ALLOWS FOR SALE OF ALCOHOL
8/20/09 14:05:47 BEV RANLS IN PACKAGE FORM ONLY
8/20/09 14:05:48 FOR CONSUMPTION OF PREMISES IN
8/20/09 14:05:50 CONJUNCTION WITH RETAIL,
8/20/09 14:05:50 CONVENIENCE GOOD STORE.
8/20/09 14:05:52 AND THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE
8/20/09 14:05:55 COMMERCIAL STRIP CENTER
8/20/09 14:05:55 WHICH
8/20/09 14:05:57 CONTAINS APPROXIMATELY 29,280
8/20/09 14:05:58 SQUARE FEET.
8/20/09 14:06:00 WITH THE BUILDING HEIGHT OF 16
8/20/09 14:06:00 FEET.
8/20/09 14:06:03 THE TOTAL AREA UNDER THIS
8/20/09 14:06:04 REQUEST IS 5,642 SQUARE FEET.
8/20/09 14:06:06 A TOTAL OF 29 PARKING SPACES
8/20/09 14:06:07 ARE REQUIRED.
8/20/09 14:06:10 AND 29 PARKING SPACES
8/20/09 14:06:15 ARE BEING
8/20/09 14:06:15 PROVIDED.
8/20/09 14:06:18 AND THIS IS AN AIRLINE
8/20/09 14:06:21 OF THE
8/20/09 14:06:23 SITE.
8/20/09 14:06:26 LOCATED HERE TO THE EAST
8/20/09 14:06:29 OF THE
8/20/09 14:06:29 SITE.
8/20/09 14:06:32 SOME PICTURES
8/20/09 14:06:35 OF THE
8/20/09 14:06:41 SITE.
8/20/09 14:06:45 THIS IS JUST EAST.
8/20/09 14:06:48 AND
8/20/09 14:06:51 THIS IS
8/20/09 14:06:52 NORTH.
8/20/09 14:06:54 THE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE HAS
8/20/09 14:06:55 REVIEWED THE PETITION AND FINDS
8/20/09 14:06:56 THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH
8/20/09 14:06:58 THE APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA
8/20/09 14:07:00 LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
8/20/09 14:07:01 HOWEVER, IF THE REQUEST AT
8/20/09 14:07:02 MODIFICATIONS ARE MADE BETWEEN
8/20/09 14:07:03 FIRST AND SECOND READINGS,
8/20/09 14:07:07 STAFF WILL FIND
8/20/09 14:07:08 THE REQUEST
8/20/09 14:07:08 CONSISTENT.
8/20/09 14:07:09 LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION
8/20/09 14:07:11 HAS A FINDING OF INCONSISTENT.
8/20/09 14:07:13 WE'RE ASKING THAT THREE WAIVERS
8/20/09 14:07:14 BE ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN.
8/20/09 14:07:17 THAT THE FIRST THREE LISTED IN
8/20/09 14:07:17 THE STAFF REPORT.
8/20/09 14:07:19 I WOULD LIKE TO READ THOSE
8/20/09 14:07:22 WAIVERS TO BE ADDED ON
8/20/09 14:07:23 TO THE
8/20/09 14:07:23 PLAN.
8/20/09 14:07:24 SECTION 27 --272.
8/20/09 14:07:27 TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED MINIMAL
8/20/09 14:07:30 DISTANT SEPARATION FROM 1,000
8/20/09 14:07:31 FEET TO 93 FEET.
8/20/09 14:07:32 FOR OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS
8/20/09 14:07:33 SELLING ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
8/20/09 14:07:36 THE OTHER ONE IS SECTION 27 --
8/20/09 14:07:38 272 TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED
8/20/09 14:07:39 MINIMUM DISTANCE SEPARATION
8/20/09 14:07:42 FROM 1,000 FEET TO 65 FEET
8/20/09 14:07:43 FOR
8/20/09 14:07:43 RESIDENTIAL USES.
8/20/09 14:07:45 AND THE LAST WAIVER IS SECTION
8/20/09 14:07:47 27 --272 TO REDUCE THE
8/20/09 14:07:49 REQUIRED MINIMUM DISTANCE
8/20/09 14:07:52 SEPARATION FROM 1,000 FEET TO
8/20/09 14:07:54 927 FEET.
8/20/09 14:07:54 FOR INSTITUTIONAL USES.
8/20/09 14:07:57 AND THERE WAS THE FINDING OF
8/20/09 14:07:58 INCONSISTENT SIGH ALSO FROM
8/20/09 14:07:58 SOLID WASTE.
8/20/09 14:08:00 AND IT WAS ACTUALLY RELATED TO
8/20/09 14:08:03 THE WAIVER THAT WAS LISTED IS
8/20/09 14:08:05 TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED OFFER
8/20/09 14:08:08 FROM 15 FEET TO FOUR FEET.
8/20/09 14:08:10 SOLID WAIST RECOGNIZES THE
8/20/09 14:08:11 REQUESTED FOR THE WAIVER AND
8/20/09 14:08:14 HAS NO OBJECTION UPON
8/20/09 14:08:15 COUNCIL'S
8/20/09 14:08:15 APPROVAL.
8/20/09 14:08:16 THAT CONCLUDES STAFF
8/20/09 14:08:16 PRESENTATION.
8/20/09 14:08:19 I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY
8/20/09 14:08:23 QUESTIONS.
8/20/09 14:08:26 >> ANY
8/20/09 14:08:27 QUESTIONS?
8/20/09 14:08:27 OFFICER MILLER?
8/20/09 14:08:29 GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL --
8/20/09 14:08:30 MILLER, CITY OF TAMPA POLICE
8/20/09 14:08:31 DEPARTMENT, I HAVE BEEN WORN.
8/20/09 14:08:32 AND --SWORN.
8/20/09 14:08:35 NO OBJECTIONS
8/20/09 14:08:38 ON
8/20/09 14:08:40 THIS REQUEST.
8/20/09 14:08:41 PETITION SENATOR
8/20/09 14:08:43 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
8/20/09 14:08:46 >> AND I'M ASKING THE CITY IF
8/20/09 14:08:48 COUNCIL FOR THE APPROVAL.
8/20/09 14:08:51 WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEM IN
8/20/09 14:08:54 THE PAST REGARDING ANY VIOLENCE
8/20/09 14:08:54 OR ANYTHING.
8/20/09 14:08:57 ANYBODY DRINKING IN FRONT OF
8/20/09 14:09:00 THE BUILDING OR ANYBODY --
8/20/09 14:09:01 NEIGHBORS BREAKING IN OR
8/20/09 14:09:02 ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
8/20/09 14:09:04 AND WE ARE MOVING FROM 2,000
8/20/09 14:09:05 SQUARE FEET EXPANDING THE
8/20/09 14:09:08 BUSINESS, TO, YOU KNOW, 6,000
8/20/09 14:09:09 SQUARE FEET ALMOST.
8/20/09 14:09:11 AND THE CUSTOMERS KEEP ASKING
8/20/09 14:09:13 US FOR US TO MOVE.
8/20/09 14:09:16 AND SO WE'RE ASKING FOR
8/20/09 14:09:17 YOUR
8/20/09 14:09:18 APPROVAL, PLEASE.
8/20/09 14:09:20 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY
8/20/09 14:09:20 QUESTIONS.
8/20/09 14:09:23 >> ANY QUESTION BY
8/20/09 14:09:23 COUNCIL?
8/20/09 14:09:25 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO
8/20/09 14:09:25 ADDRESS COUNCIL?
8/20/09 14:09:27 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC?
8/20/09 14:09:29 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC.
8/20/09 14:09:30 >> WHERE IS YOUR --WE'RE AT
8/20/09 14:09:31 YOUR STORE RIGHT NOW.
8/20/09 14:09:32 >> I UNDERSTAND.
8/20/09 14:09:34 >> OH, WE'RE IN THE SAME PLAZA.
8/20/09 14:09:36 >> JUST TWO DOORS DOWN.
8/20/09 14:09:39 >>
8/20/09 14:09:41 SOUNDS GOOD.
8/20/09 14:09:44 THANK
8/20/09 14:09:47 YOU.
8/20/09 14:09:47 SAY AYE.
8/20/09 14:09:50 >>
8/20/09 14:09:56 >> THANK.
8/20/09 14:09:57 YOU
8/20/09 14:09:59 >> THANK YOU, I WOULD LIKE TO
8/20/09 14:10:02 MOVE AN ORDNANCE TO A SPECIAL
8/20/09 14:10:04 USE PERMIT S2 FOR ALCOHOLIC
8/20/09 14:10:05 BEVERAGE SALE, SMALL VENUE AND
8/20/09 14:10:07 MAKING THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
8/20/09 14:10:09 CONTAINING ALCOHOL MORE THAN 1%
8/20/09 14:10:11 BY WEIGHT AND NOT MORE THAN 14%
8/20/09 14:10:11 BY WEIGHT.
8/20/09 14:10:12 AND REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC
8/20/09 14:10:15 CONTENT, BEER AND WINE, TO APS,
8/20/09 14:10:16 CONCEALED CONTAINERS FOR
8/20/09 14:10:19 CONSUMPTION OFF PREMISES ONLY
8/20/09 14:10:20 OUT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN TRACK
8/20/09 14:10:23 OF LAND LOCATED AT 441 EAST
8/20/09 14:10:25 BUSH BOULEVARD, TAMPA, PLAY
8/20/09 14:10:25 FLAY.
8/20/09 14:10:28 AS MORE PARTICULARLY
8/20/09 14:10:28 DESCRIBED
8/20/09 14:10:30 APPROVING WAIVERS, AND HEREIN
8/20/09 14:10:32 PROVIDING FOR APPEAL OF ALL
8/20/09 14:10:33 ORDNANCES IN CONFLICT,
8/20/09 14:10:37 PROVIDING AN
8/20/09 14:10:37 EFFECTIVE DATE.
8/20/09 14:10:40 >> AND ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
8/20/09 14:10:41 >> OPPOSES
8/20/09 14:10:42 >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8/20/09 14:10:45 SECOND READING OF THE ORDNANCE
8/20/09 14:10:47 WILL BE HELD SEPTEMBER 3RD,
8/20/09 14:10:48 9:30 A.M
8/20/09 14:10:50 >>> EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIRMAN.
8/20/09 14:10:50 I APOLOGIZE.
8/20/09 14:10:52 IF WE COULD ALSO ADD THE
8/20/09 14:10:54 WAIVERS LISTED --WAIVERS 1, 2,
8/20/09 14:10:56 3 LISTED ON THE STAFF REPORT.
8/20/09 14:10:59 >> AND INCLUDING THE
8/20/09 14:11:02 THREE
8/20/09 14:11:05 WAIVERS
8/20/09 14:11:08 LISTED
8/20/09 14:11:10 INCLUDED ON ITEM
8/20/09 14:11:10 111.
8/20/09 14:11:13 ALL IN
8/20/09 14:11:16 FAVOR SAY
8/20/09 14:11:22 AYE.
8/20/09 14:11:31 OPPOSES?
8/20/09 14:11:34 ITEM 112.
8/20/09 14:11:35 >> ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
8/20/09 14:11:35 >> OPPOSES?
8/20/09 14:11:36 >> LAND DEVELOPMENT
8/20/09 14:11:38 COORDINATION, AND I HAVE BEEN
8/20/09 14:11:38 SWORN.
8/20/09 14:11:41 THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS
8/20/09 14:11:44 PETITION NUMBER V09327.
8/20/09 14:11:46 THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 402.
8/20/09 14:11:49 THE PROPERTY
8/20/09 14:11:50 IS FROM THE
8/20/09 14:11:51 COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
8/20/09 14:11:52 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES.
8/20/09 14:11:54 SMALL VENUE FOR A COPR.
8/20/09 14:11:56 IT ALLOWS FOR THE SALE OF
8/20/09 14:11:57 BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF
8/20/09 14:11:58 ALCOHOLIC CONTENT FOR
8/20/09 14:12:00 CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND IN
8/20/09 14:12:02 CONJUNCTION WITH THE RESTAURANT
8/20/09 14:12:02 USE.
8/20/09 14:12:04 THE SITE CONTAINS 8,000 SQUARE
8/20/09 14:12:04 FEET.
8/20/09 14:12:05 THE TOTAL AREA UNDER THIS
8/20/09 14:12:08 REQUEST IS 4,117
8/20/09 14:12:10 SQUARE FEET.
8/20/09 14:12:11 THIS REQUEST USES 837 SQUARE
8/20/09 14:12:14 FEET OF INDOOR COVERED SEATING
8/20/09 14:12:17 AND 3,149 SQUARE FEET OF
8/20/09 14:12:17 OUTDOOR AREA.
8/20/09 14:12:19 PARKING REQUIRED IS 13 SPACES
8/20/09 14:12:22 AND 10
8/20/09 14:12:23 ARE BEING PROVIDED.
8/20/09 14:12:27 >> AND THIS IS AN AIRLINE
8/20/09 14:12:32 OF THE
8/20/09 14:12:34 SITE?
8/20/09 14:12:36 BORDERED TO THE WEST.
8/20/09 14:12:37 FLAT IS JUST NORTH OF THE
8/20/09 14:12:37 SOUTH.
8/20/09 14:12:40 AND THE RATIO IS SOUTH
8/20/09 14:12:43 OF
8/20/09 14:12:46 THE
8/20/09 14:12:49 SITE.
8/20/09 14:12:50 THESE ARE PICTURES OF THE SITE.
8/20/09 14:12:53 LOOKING SOUTH
8/20/09 14:12:56 OF THE
8/20/09 14:12:57 SITE THE
8/20/09 14:12:58 ENTRANCE TO THE SITE WHICH IS
8/20/09 14:12:59 EAST OF THE SITE.
8/20/09 14:13:02 AND THAT IS THE VIEW WEST
8/20/09 14:13:04 OF
8/20/09 14:13:05 THE SITE.
8/20/09 14:13:06 THE DEVELOPMENT WITH YOUR
8/20/09 14:13:07 COMMITTEE HAS REVIEWED THE
8/20/09 14:13:08 PETITION AND SOLED --SOLID
8/20/09 14:13:10 WASTE PLANS TO REQUEST
8/20/09 14:13:10 INCONSISTENT WITH THE
8/20/09 14:13:13 APPLICABLE CITY OF TAM AT THAT
8/20/09 14:13:15 --TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT
8/20/09 14:13:15 REGULATIONS.
8/20/09 14:13:17 SOLID WASTE, FINDING OF INCON
8/20/09 14:13:20 SIS SENT --INCONSISTENT IS DUE
8/20/09 14:13:21 TO THE WAIVER.
8/20/09 14:13:22 SERVICE DUE TO MANEUVER IN THE
8/20/09 14:13:24 RIGHT OF WAY AFTER THE
8/20/09 14:13:25 CONNECTION PROCESS.
8/20/09 14:13:26 SOLID WASTE RECOGNIZES THAT
8/20/09 14:13:28 REQUEST AND HAS NO OBJECTION
8/20/09 14:13:29 UPON CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
8/20/09 14:13:30 THAT CONCLUDES THAT
8/20/09 14:13:30 PRESENTATION.
8/20/09 14:13:33 I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE
8/20/09 14:13:35 ANY
8/20/09 14:13:35 QUESTIONS.
8/20/09 14:13:38 >> I KNOW I DON'T HAVE
8/20/09 14:13:40 MR.
8/20/09 14:13:40 MIRANDA'S MEMORY, BUT WHEN WAS
8/20/09 14:13:42 THE LAST TIME WE HEARD THIS
8/20/09 14:13:45 PETITION, AND WHAT WAS
8/20/09 14:13:47 THE
8/20/09 14:13:51 BOARD'S
8/20/09 14:13:51 ACTION?
8/20/09 14:13:52 AND THE PETITION --
8/20/09 14:13:55 >> AND I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT
8/20/09 14:13:56 DATE THAT THE FIRST PETITION
8/20/09 14:13:57 WAS APPLIED FOR.
8/20/09 14:13:59 IT WAS DRAWN IN JANUARY OF '09.
8/20/09 14:14:01 AND ACTION NOT TAKING A
8/20/09 14:14:02 PETITION TO WITHDRAW THE
8/20/09 14:14:03 POSITION.
8/20/09 14:14:06 >> WAS IT ANY DIFFERENT THAN IT
8/20/09 14:14:07 WAS TODAY?
8/20/09 14:14:09 >> AND WHAT IS THIS?
8/20/09 14:14:11 >> THIS IS FOR A COPR.
8/20/09 14:14:12 >> RIGHT.
8/20/09 14:14:14 >> AND DOES THIS ONE INCLUDE
8/20/09 14:14:17 ANY HOURS OF
8/20/09 14:14:17 OPERATION
8/20/09 14:14:18 LIMITATIONS?
8/20/09 14:14:21 >> I BELIEVE ON
8/20/09 14:14:27 THE
8/20/09 14:14:30 SITE PLAN
8/20/09 14:14:36 THANK
8/20/09 14:14:42 YOU.
8/20/09 14:14:48 >> HAVE
8/20/09 14:14:48 BEEN SWORN.
8/20/09 14:14:51 THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ON
8/20/09 14:14:51 THIS PARTICULAR COMMISSION.
8/20/09 14:14:52 --PETITION.
8/20/09 14:14:53 I THINK HE WAS HERE TODAY TO
8/20/09 14:14:54 SPEAK ON IT.
8/20/09 14:14:57 YOU DID HAVE THIS
8/20/09 14:14:57 ONE BEFORE
8/20/09 14:14:58 YOU.
8/20/09 14:14:59 AND THERE WERE SOME TIME
8/20/09 14:15:00 CONSTRAINT PROBLEMS LAST TIME.
8/20/09 14:15:02 I'LL BRING THAT TO YOUR
8/20/09 14:15:02 ATTENTION.
8/20/09 14:15:03 BUT OTHER THAN AT THAT, THE
8/20/09 14:15:05 CITY OF TAMPA HAS NO OBJECTION.
8/20/09 14:15:07 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
8/20/09 14:15:08 >> PETITIONER?
8/20/09 14:15:10 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL TOM
8/20/09 14:15:12 MY --TOMMY OR ADVERTISE.
8/20/09 14:15:12 2208.
8/20/09 14:15:14 I AM THE COOWNER OF THE
8/20/09 14:15:15 PROPERTY SEEKING THE REZONING.
8/20/09 14:15:18 THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY IS ZONED
8/20/09 14:15:20 2 COP WITH NO RESTRICTIONS AT
8/20/09 14:15:20 THIS TIME.
8/20/09 14:15:21 I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
8/20/09 14:15:22 QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE
8/20/09 14:15:23 PETITION.
8/20/09 14:15:26 BUT I WOULD LIKE
8/20/09 14:15:27 TO FIRST
8/20/09 14:15:29 INTRODUCE THE NEW CARETAKERS OF
8/20/09 14:15:30 THE PROPERTY AND HAVE THEM
8/20/09 14:15:32 EXPLAIN WHAT THEIR CONCEPT OF
8/20/09 14:15:35 VISION OF THIS PROPERTY WILL BE
8/20/09 14:15:41 UNDER THEIR
8/20/09 14:15:43 CARE.
8/20/09 14:15:45 THANK YOU FOR HEARING US.
8/20/09 14:15:48 THIS IS MY WIFE, DEE DEE.
8/20/09 14:15:51 I'VE BEEN ENGAGED
8/20/09 14:15:52 FOR PROBABLY
8/20/09 14:15:53 ABOUT THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
8/20/09 14:15:54 NOT SPECIFIC TO THIS WET
8/20/09 14:15:56 ZONING, BUT MORE SPECIFIC TO
8/20/09 14:15:58 THE BUSINESS PROPOSAL, THE PLAN
8/20/09 14:16:01 WE SPENT COUNTLESS
8/20/09 14:16:03 HOURS GOING
8/20/09 14:16:05 OVER THE VISION OF WHAT WE
8/20/09 14:16:06 WANTED TO DO THERE.
8/20/09 14:16:09 AND TOMMY
8/20/09 14:16:12 WAS VERY CONCERNED
8/20/09 14:16:14 AND LAST TIME THAT IT WAS
8/20/09 14:16:15 BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL.
8/20/09 14:16:17 I WASN'T REALLY PRIVY TO ALL
8/20/09 14:16:17 THAT.
8/20/09 14:16:19 HI TO GO BACK AND STUDY THE
8/20/09 14:16:22 ARCHIVES AND READ THE MINUTES
8/20/09 14:16:25 OF THE
8/20/09 14:16:26 HEARING.
8/20/09 14:16:27 BUT MY CONCERNS HAVE ALWAYS BB
8/20/09 14:16:29 --AND I AM TALKING TO YOU IN
8/20/09 14:16:30 THE SAME WAY, IN THE SAME
8/20/09 14:16:33 MANNER THAT I TALKED TO TOMMY
8/20/09 14:16:34 OVER THIS ENTIRE LENGTH OF
8/20/09 14:16:34 TIME.
8/20/09 14:16:36 WE HAVE SPENT JUST ABSOLUTELY
8/20/09 14:16:38 COUNTLESS HOURS WE HAVE SPENT
8/20/09 14:16:40 SOME NIGHTS UNTIL 1:00 OR 2:00
8/20/09 14:16:42 IN THE MORNING JUST DISCUSSING
8/20/09 14:16:45 THE BUSINESS ITSELF, NOT
8/20/09 14:16:48 THE
8/20/09 14:16:49 WET ZONING.
8/20/09 14:16:50 I BELIEVE, AND I THINK TOMMY
8/20/09 14:16:53 BELIEVES AS WELL THIS IS A TWO-
8/20/09 14:16:55 WAY STREET ALLIANCE.
8/20/09 14:16:57 THIS IS TOMMY BRINGING MYSELF
8/20/09 14:17:00 AND MY WIFE INTO PLAY AND IN
8/20/09 14:17:00 AN
8/20/09 14:17:02 ESTABLISHMENT THAT HAS NOT
8/20/09 14:17:05 ACTED AS PERHAPS
8/20/09 14:17:08 IN THE PAST
8/20/09 14:17:09 AS
8/20/09 14:17:11 A VERY LEGITIMATE RESTAURANT.
8/20/09 14:17:12 THAT IS SOMETHING WE THINK WE
8/20/09 14:17:13 CAN PROVIDE FOR THAT LOCATION.
8/20/09 14:17:14 SOME OF YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR
8/20/09 14:17:16 AND I HAVE ALWAYS USED THE
8/20/09 14:17:16 ANALOGY.
8/20/09 14:17:19 I DON'T PAT MYSELF ON THE BACK.
8/20/09 14:17:22 WE HAVE BEEN IN TAMPA
8/20/09 14:17:22 SINCE
8/20/09 14:17:22 1955.
8/20/09 14:17:25 AND SINCE 1959 ON DAVIS ISLAND.
8/20/09 14:17:27 AND I THINK WE HAVE GOT A GREAT
8/20/09 14:17:27 TRACK RECORD.
8/20/09 14:17:30 AND THAT TRACK RECORD COMES
8/20/09 14:17:32 FROM THE EFFORTS THAT WE PUT
8/20/09 14:17:33 OUT DURING THAT TIME.
8/20/09 14:17:34 WE HAVE ALWAYS WORKED VERY
8/20/09 14:17:37 HARD, BOTH MY WIFE,
8/20/09 14:17:42 AND I. AND
8/20/09 14:17:45 I HAVE PERSONALLY
8/20/09 14:17:47 GONE OVER
8/20/09 14:17:48 THIS WHAT I AM GOING TO STAY
8/20/09 14:17:49 FOR YOU TODAY.
8/20/09 14:17:51 I SAY QUITE SIMPLY AND IT
8/20/09 14:17:54 REALLY COMES DOWN TO THE BOTTOM
8/20/09 14:17:55 LINE.
8/20/09 14:17:58 AND OUR INTENTIONS ARE IS TO
8/20/09 14:18:00 MAKE THAT LOCATION AN END
8/20/09 14:18:02 DESTINATION WHERE PEOPLE OF ALL
8/20/09 14:18:04 AGES CAN COME TO THAT AND FEEL
8/20/09 14:18:07 COMFORTABLE COMING
8/20/09 14:18:07 TO THAT.
8/20/09 14:18:08 THEY WANT TO COME THERE FOR THE
8/20/09 14:18:09 FOOD, NOT JUST THE ALCOHOL.
8/20/09 14:18:11 NERD YOU FIRST THOUGHT WHEN YOU
8/20/09 14:18:13 COME THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO
8/20/09 14:18:14 CRAVE THE FOOD.
8/20/09 14:18:17 IF YOU HAVE A DRINK WITH IT,
8/20/09 14:18:21 SO
8/20/09 14:18:22 BE IT.
8/20/09 14:18:23 AND WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE
8/20/09 14:18:26 SAME THEME IN
8/20/09 14:18:28 A MEXICAN THEME.
8/20/09 14:18:29 AND FESTIVENESS TO THAT THEME.
8/20/09 14:18:31 WE HAVE BROUGHT IN THE RIGHT
8/20/09 14:18:32 PEOPLE TO HELP US DO THAT TO
8/20/09 14:18:35 SUPPORT US WITH THE MENU
8/20/09 14:18:36 CREATION.
8/20/09 14:18:39 AND THE IMPROVEMENTS
8/20/09 14:18:42 ON THE
8/20/09 14:18:47 PROPERTY.
8/20/09 14:18:48 QUITE HONESTLY.
8/20/09 14:18:49 I CONSIDER THIS TO BE A
8/20/09 14:18:50 COMBINATION OF THAT EFFORT THAT
8/20/09 14:18:53 WE PUT FORWARD FOR THE LAST SIX
8/20/09 14:18:53 MONTHS.
8/20/09 14:18:54 AND GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY, IF
8/20/09 14:18:56 YOU GRANT US THIS REQUEST
8/20/09 14:18:59 TODAY, WE'RE READY TO MAKE
8/20/09 14:19:00 THAT
8/20/09 14:19:01 A BETTER SIGHT FIRST THING IN
8/20/09 14:19:02 THE MORNING.
8/20/09 14:19:03 I HAD MY PRESSURE WASHER IN THE
8/20/09 14:19:05 BACK OF MY TRUCK READY TO GO.
8/20/09 14:19:08 SO WE HAVE PEOPLE IN LINE READY
8/20/09 14:19:08 TO GO.
8/20/09 14:19:10 WE HAVE OUR CONTRACTORS AND
8/20/09 14:19:11 EVERYTHING ELSE READY TO GO.
8/20/09 14:19:13 THAT IS WHERE I AM BASICALLY
8/20/09 14:19:14 AT.
8/20/09 14:19:15 I FEEL THAT MORE SO THAN
8/20/09 14:19:16 ANYBODY, I THINK IF WE'RE GOING
8/20/09 14:19:20 TO BE A CARETAKER FOR A
8/20/09 14:19:20 ZONING
8/20/09 14:19:22 --SOB ZONING BEING ATTACHED TO
8/20/09 14:19:24 A PIECE OF PROPERTY, NOT TO THE
8/20/09 14:19:24 INDIVIDUAL.
8/20/09 14:19:27 AND I WENT BEFORE THE
8/20/09 14:19:28 NEIGHBORHOOD COMMITTEE, THE
8/20/09 14:19:29 ASSOCIATION, AND THAT WAS THE
8/20/09 14:19:30 FIRST THING I TOLD THEM.
8/20/09 14:19:31 I SAID I UNDERSTAND YOUR
8/20/09 14:19:34 CONCERNS BECAUSE IF YOU CAME IN
8/20/09 14:19:36 MY BACKYARD AND YOU HAD A
8/20/09 14:19:37 PROPOSAL, I WOULD WANT TO HEAR
8/20/09 14:19:38 YOU OUT.
8/20/09 14:19:39 AND I WOULD WANT TO HAVE SOME
8/20/09 14:19:40 ASSURANCES AS WELL THAT YOU
8/20/09 14:19:43 WERE GOING TO BE A
8/20/09 14:19:45 GOOD
8/20/09 14:19:45 CARETAKER.
8/20/09 14:19:46 THEN UNFORCHTLY, WITH ZONING
8/20/09 14:19:48 MATTERS, THERE IS NO ASSURANCE.
8/20/09 14:19:49 I TOLD THEM I CANNOT GUARANTEE
8/20/09 14:19:51 YOU THAT I WOULD BE HERE A YEAR
8/20/09 14:19:54 FROM NOW, I WOULD BE HERE
8/20/09 14:19:57 FIVE
8/20/09 14:19:59 YEARS FROM NOW.
8/20/09 14:20:01 AND I IS SAID UNDER THE
8/20/09 14:20:03 CIRCUMSTANCES IN GIVEN WHAT THE
8/20/09 14:20:05 PROPERTY, HOW IT'S BEEN
8/20/09 14:20:06 OPERATED IN THE PAST VERSES THE
8/20/09 14:20:09 WAY IT'S GOING TO BE OPERATED
8/20/09 14:20:10 IN THE FUTURE.
8/20/09 14:20:13 AND AT LEAST I AM IN
8/20/09 14:20:13 FRONT OF
8/20/09 14:20:14 YOU AND I CAN GIVE YOU
8/20/09 14:20:15 ASSURANCES THAT I AM GOING TO
8/20/09 14:20:18 RUN IT AS AN
8/20/09 14:20:19 ADULT-FRIENDLY
8/20/09 14:20:19 BUSINESS.
8/20/09 14:20:22 I AM
8/20/09 14:20:25 55 YEARS OLD.
8/20/09 14:20:28 I HAVE A FAMILY AND THREE GREAT
8/20/09 14:20:28 KIDS AND A WIFE.
8/20/09 14:20:29 THAT IS HOW WE ARE GOING TO RUN
8/20/09 14:20:31 IT AS A FAMILY BUSINESS.
8/20/09 14:20:32 THAT IS OUR INTENTION.
8/20/09 14:20:34 I DON'TEN TOLERATE THINGS LIKE
8/20/09 14:20:34 THAT.
8/20/09 14:20:35 HUMAN NATURE IS HUMAN NATURE.
8/20/09 14:20:37 THAT IS WHAT THE DISTRICT IS.
8/20/09 14:20:39 IT NEEDS GOOD CARETAKERS AND
8/20/09 14:20:40 GOOD LEADERS DOWN THERE.
8/20/09 14:20:43 MY WIFE AND I CAN PROVIDE THAT
8/20/09 14:20:45 FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
8/20/09 14:20:48 WE WOULD BE
8/20/09 14:20:49 A GREAT E DIECIOUS
8/20/09 14:20:52 TO THE --EDITION TO THE
8/20/09 14:20:52 NEIGHBORHOOD.
8/20/09 14:20:52 >> YOU MOVED.
8/20/09 14:20:55 >> WE WERE A COUPLE OF TIMES.
8/20/09 14:20:57 >> WE OWN THAT BUILDING.
8/20/09 14:20:57 >> THAT'S RIGHT.
8/20/09 14:20:59 YOU SHOULD HAVE NEVER SOLD IT
8/20/09 14:21:00 TO PAY MONEY.
8/20/09 14:21:01 >> AND FOR ANOTHER TIME I'LL
8/20/09 14:21:04 TELL YOU THAT STORY.
8/20/09 14:21:05 THAT DIDN'T COME OUT REAL WELL
8/20/09 14:21:06 FOR ME.
8/20/09 14:21:07 >> AND THEN YOU MOVED TO WHERE
8/20/09 14:21:09 YOU ARE AT NOW LOCATED AT A
8/20/09 14:21:10 PLATT OR --
8/20/09 14:21:12 >> UM, OUR MOST RECENT THAT WE
8/20/09 14:21:15 SOLD LAST FEBRUARY WAS
8/20/09 14:21:15 201
8/20/09 14:21:15 PLATTE.
8/20/09 14:21:16 IT IS ADJACENT TO THE BAY
8/20/09 14:21:19 SHORE, TO THE PUBLIX PROPERTY.
8/20/09 14:21:20 >> YOU'VE ALWAYS HAD A GOOD
8/20/09 14:21:21 TRACK RECORD.
8/20/09 14:21:24 >>
8/20/09 14:21:27 I
8/20/09 14:21:29 APPRECIATE THAT.
8/20/09 14:21:29 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 14:21:31 YOU ARE GOOD PEOPLE.
8/20/09 14:21:34 AND YOU RUPP GREAT
8/20/09 14:21:36 ESTABLISHMENTS AND YOUR FAMILY
8/20/09 14:21:37 --
8/20/09 14:21:40 >> AND THE CONCERN I
8/20/09 14:21:40 HAVE.
8/20/09 14:21:43 EVEN THIS MORNING JUST AS HOURS
8/20/09 14:21:44 OF OPERATION AND I'M GLAD THAT
8/20/09 14:21:47 IT'S NOW --WE'RE LOOKING AT AN
8/20/09 14:21:47 --
8/20/09 14:21:50 >> SO THERE
8/20/09 14:21:53 IS SOME
8/20/09 14:22:00 LIMITATIONS.
8/20/09 14:22:03 WE HAVE LETTERS
8/20/09 14:22:06 IN
8/20/09 14:22:06 THE FALL.
8/20/09 14:22:08 AND HER NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION
8/20/09 14:22:10 HAS SOME CONCERNS VOTED WITH
8/20/09 14:22:11 OPPOSITION.
8/20/09 14:22:12 I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO HEAR
8/20/09 14:22:14 FROM WALTER AND SEE WHAT THEY
8/20/09 14:22:14 HAVE TO SAY.
8/20/09 14:22:15 BUT BEFORE WE DO, HAVE Y'ALL
8/20/09 14:22:17 GIVEN ANY THOUGHT TO THAT.
8/20/09 14:22:18 BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAY, YOU AND I
8/20/09 14:22:21 AREN'T GOING TO BE HERE AT A
8/20/09 14:22:22 CERTAIN POINT IN TIME.
8/20/09 14:22:24 >> THAT'S RIGHT.
8/20/09 14:22:25 >> AND NO MATTER HOW GREAT YOU
8/20/09 14:22:28 ARE, THE NEXT FOLKS WHO HAVE
8/20/09 14:22:31 THAT LOCATION WILL HAVE YOU
8/20/09 14:22:32 WHATEVER WE PUT IT ON TODAY.
8/20/09 14:22:33 AS SOMEBODY WHO CARES ABOUT
8/20/09 14:22:35 TAMPA IN THE FUTURE, DO YOU
8/20/09 14:22:36 HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT
8/20/09 14:22:38 TIME CON FLAINT --CONSTRAINTS
8/20/09 14:22:41 WE COULD
8/20/09 14:22:44 PUT ON
8/20/09 14:22:44 IT?
8/20/09 14:22:46 >> I KNOW THAT AGAIN, I'M GOING
8/20/09 14:22:47 TO PUT IT ON THE TABLE.
8/20/09 14:22:49 I'M GOING TO BE VERY
8/20/09 14:22:49 TRANSPARENT.
8/20/09 14:22:52 TOMMY AND I HAVE TALKED
8/20/09 14:22:55 ABOUT
8/20/09 14:22:56 THAT.
8/20/09 14:22:57 I ST'S AWARE --I DON'T THINK
8/20/09 14:22:59 HE'S GOING TO BE WILLING TO DO
8/20/09 14:22:59 THAT.
8/20/09 14:23:01 I'M GOING TO LET HIM ELABORATE.
8/20/09 14:23:03 THAT IS A PROPERTY OWNER IS A
8/20/09 14:23:04 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SCENARIO
8/20/09 14:23:04 FROM MINE.
8/20/09 14:23:07 AS FAR AS WHAT I SEE IN THE
8/20/09 14:23:09 NEIGHBORHOOD IS I SEE THAT
8/20/09 14:23:11 THERE --AND I HAVE BEEN OVER
8/20/09 14:23:11 THERE.
8/20/09 14:23:13 I'VE BEEN ON THE WEEKENDS.
8/20/09 14:23:14 I'VE BEEN MONDAY, TUESDAY
8/20/09 14:23:14 NIGHT.
8/20/09 14:23:15 I HAVE DRIVEN THROUGH THERE AT
8/20/09 14:23:16 3:00 IN THE MORNING.
8/20/09 14:23:19 AND JUST AS PART OF MY BUSINESS
8/20/09 14:23:19 FORMAL.
8/20/09 14:23:22 AND WHAT I SEE IS A CAPTIVE
8/20/09 14:23:22 AUDIENCE.
8/20/09 14:23:24 AND I ALSO SEE CERTAIN
8/20/09 14:23:27 BUSINESSES HELD HOSTAGE BY THAT
8/20/09 14:23:27 CAPTIVE AUDIENCE.
8/20/09 14:23:29 AND NERD, AT CERTAIN TIMES
8/20/09 14:23:31 DURING THURSDAY, FRIDAY,
8/20/09 14:23:33 SATURDAY NIGHT, YOU BASICALLY
8/20/09 14:23:35 GOT A CROWD THAT IS DOWN THERE.
8/20/09 14:23:37 AND IT'S KIND OF EXCLUSIONARY
8/20/09 14:23:39 TO OTHER PEOPLE THAT MIGHT WANT
8/20/09 14:23:40 TO ENTER THERE.
8/20/09 14:23:41 WE'RE HOPING ALSO THAT PEOPLE
8/20/09 14:23:43 BEFORE THOSE HOURS --I MEAN,
8/20/09 14:23:45 IT WOULD BE LIKE A CHANGING OF
8/20/09 14:23:47 THE GUARDS THAT PEOPLE WOULD
8/20/09 14:23:49 WANT TO COME THERE FOR DINNER.
8/20/09 14:23:49 THEY MIGHT NOT STAY THERE AND
8/20/09 14:23:53 BE PART OF THE SCENE AT
8/20/09 14:23:53 11:00
8/20/09 14:23:54 AT NIGHT.
8/20/09 14:23:55 BUT WHEN YOU ARE IN ROAM, YOU
8/20/09 14:23:57 DO AS ROMANS DO, AND THAT IS
8/20/09 14:24:00 THE CROWD THAT IS DOWN
8/20/09 14:24:00 THERE.
8/20/09 14:24:02 AND AGAIN, I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, I
8/20/09 14:24:05 --YOU KNOW, I CAN'T --AND I
8/20/09 14:24:05 WON'T.
8/20/09 14:24:06 I'M NOT GOING TO STAND UP HERE
8/20/09 14:24:08 AND ASURE YOU THAT PEOPLE WON'T
8/20/09 14:24:08 DRINK TOO MUCH.
8/20/09 14:24:11 THEY WON'T DO CERTAIN THINGS
8/20/09 14:24:12 THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING.
8/20/09 14:24:15 BUT I AM TELLING YOU THAT AS A
8/20/09 14:24:16 BUSINESS OWNER, THAT I WON'T
8/20/09 14:24:18 TOLERATE IT IN MY BUSINESS
8/20/09 14:24:19 BECAUSE I JUST WON'T.
8/20/09 14:24:21 IT'S PART OF MY --IT'S JUST
8/20/09 14:24:22 PART OF ME.
8/20/09 14:24:23 WE'RE FOOD PEOPLE.
8/20/09 14:24:25 WE'RE NOT ALCOHOL PEOPLE.
8/20/09 14:24:28 AND AS FAR AS THE TIME
8/20/09 14:24:31 CONSTRAINTS,
8/20/09 14:24:32 I'M DEALING WITH
8/20/09 14:24:33 ANOTHER ISSUE ON THAT.
8/20/09 14:24:34 UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T BE
8/20/09 14:24:35 FLEXIBLE ON THAT BECAUSE OF THE
8/20/09 14:24:36 VALUATION OF THE PROPERTY.
8/20/09 14:24:38 >> LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
8/20/09 14:24:38 >> SURE.
8/20/09 14:24:40 >> BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE
8/20/09 14:24:42 PROPERTY --WHAT ARE THE HOURS
8/20/09 14:24:45 YOU ARE GOING
8/20/09 14:24:48 TO BE
8/20/09 14:24:49 OPERATING.
8/20/09 14:24:51 FEW DHUR NEEDS FOR FUTURE
8/20/09 14:24:54 BUSINESSES
8/20/09 14:24:57 ON THAT
8/20/09 14:25:02 PROPERTY.
8/20/09 14:25:03 I HONESTLY HAVEN'T GIVEN IT A
8/20/09 14:25:06 WHOLE
8/20/09 14:25:10 LOT OF
8/20/09 14:25:11 PART.
8/20/09 14:25:13 THE HOURS THAT ARE THERE THAT
8/20/09 14:25:14 ARE ALREADY UNDERWAY.
8/20/09 14:25:15 THE THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AND
8/20/09 14:25:15 SATURDAY NIGHTS.
8/20/09 14:25:16 THOSE ARE THE HOURS.
8/20/09 14:25:18 THOSE ARE THE LONG HOURS.
8/20/09 14:25:20 THAT IS WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN THE
8/20/09 14:25:21 NEIGHBORHOOD.
8/20/09 14:25:22 OUR INTENTIONS ARE TO OPEN AT
8/20/09 14:25:22 3:00.
8/20/09 14:25:26 ON THE OTHER
8/20/09 14:25:28 HAND, WE WOULD
8/20/09 14:25:30 ALSO LIKE TO SERVE A BRUNCH ON
8/20/09 14:25:30 SUNDAY.
8/20/09 14:25:31 WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO
8/20/09 14:25:33 WALK OVER THERE AND FEEL
8/20/09 14:25:34 COMFORTABLE ABOUT WALKING TO
8/20/09 14:25:34 THE RESTAURANT.
8/20/09 14:25:37 WE WANT THEM TO EAT THERE.
8/20/09 14:25:38 THAT IS OUR INTENTION.
8/20/09 14:25:39 IT'S NOT A PLACE WHERE YOU GO
8/20/09 14:25:41 AND SAY LET'S GO GET A DRINK,
8/20/09 14:25:43 AND BY THE WAY, I'M HUNGRY.
8/20/09 14:25:45 WHAT DO YOU HAVE ON THE MENU?
8/20/09 14:25:46 >> WE'RE ALWAYS PROBABLY GOOD
8/20/09 14:25:47 ON THE SUNDAY BRUNCH.
8/20/09 14:25:48 >> I'M SURE YOU WOULD BE.
8/20/09 14:25:51 I'M SURE YOU
8/20/09 14:25:54 WOULD BE.
8/20/09 14:25:55 MY QUESTION JOHNNY ASKED YOU
8/20/09 14:25:57 ABOUT THE HOURS.
8/20/09 14:25:57 I DON'T THINK --
8/20/09 14:26:01 >> YOU'RE ASKING FOR
8/20/09 14:26:01 FOUR.
8/20/09 14:26:03 NOT TWO COPR.
8/20/09 14:26:04 4 COPR.
8/20/09 14:26:06 I WOULD THINK THAT IF YOU ARE A
8/20/09 14:26:08 FOOD PERSON, BEER AND WINE IS
8/20/09 14:26:10 USUALLY WHAT GOES WITH THE
8/20/09 14:26:10 FOOD.
8/20/09 14:26:12 IT REALLY SEEMS LIKE FOOD
8/20/09 14:26:15 COMPARED TO, YOU KNOW, FULL
8/20/09 14:26:16 ALCOHOL LICENSE.
8/20/09 14:26:19 SO I WONDERED ABOUT
8/20/09 14:26:20 THAT.
8/20/09 14:26:21 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 14:26:24 >> WELL, MY VIEW ON IT IS THAT
8/20/09 14:26:26 GIVEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
8/20/09 14:26:30 GIVEN WHAT I CONSIDER WOULD
8/20/09 14:26:32 BE
8/20/09 14:26:33 COMPETITION ON THE ALCOHOL SIDE
8/20/09 14:26:35 OF IT AND LENDING CREDIBILITY
8/20/09 14:26:36 TO MY BUSINESS.
8/20/09 14:26:39 I THINK THIS MIGHT BE JUST MY
8/20/09 14:26:39 THINKING.
8/20/09 14:26:41 AND AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO
8/20/09 14:26:41 CONVINCE YOU.
8/20/09 14:26:43 I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT MY
8/20/09 14:26:43 THOUGHT IS.
8/20/09 14:26:45 WHEN I LOOK AT A MEXICAN
8/20/09 14:26:48 RESTAURANT, AND I LOOK AT A
8/20/09 14:26:48 MARGARITA.
8/20/09 14:26:51 MARGARITA SEEMS TO BE MORE
8/20/09 14:26:54 SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE DRINK AND
8/20/09 14:26:56 MORE ATTACHED OF A FESTIVE
8/20/09 14:26:58 DRINK TO THE FOOD THAN IT DOES
8/20/09 14:26:59 --AND I'M SMILING BECAUSE I
8/20/09 14:27:01 HOPE YOU HAVE HAD A MARGARITA.
8/20/09 14:27:03 I DON'T DRINK THEM, BUT DEE DEE
8/20/09 14:27:04 LOVES THEM WITHOUT SALT.
8/20/09 14:27:06 IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE
8/20/09 14:27:08 GOING TO --AND MOST OFTEN, I
8/20/09 14:27:10 DON'T SEE SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW,
8/20/09 14:27:12 JUST ONE AFTER THE OTHER
8/20/09 14:27:12 MARGARITA.
8/20/09 14:27:14 THEY GENERALLY DO IT AS PART OF
8/20/09 14:27:15 A FESTIVE SPIRIT.
8/20/09 14:27:17 AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE KIND OF
8/20/09 14:27:18 LOOKING FOR.
8/20/09 14:27:21 >> WELL, I FOE A LOT ABOUT
8/20/09 14:27:21 MARGARITAS.
8/20/09 14:27:22 >> YOU'RE MILING --SMILING.
8/20/09 14:27:24 >> BUT I DON'T DRINK THEM
8/20/09 14:27:24 ANYMORE.
8/20/09 14:27:26 NOT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
8/20/09 14:27:29 AND THEY DO GO REALLY WELL WITH
8/20/09 14:27:29 MEXICAN FOOD.
8/20/09 14:27:32 THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU WERE
8/20/09 14:27:34 DOING THIS, SAY, ON PLATT
8/20/09 14:27:35 STREET WHERE YOUR FORMER
8/20/09 14:27:36 RESTAURANT IS, IT WOULD MAKE A
8/20/09 14:27:37 LOT OF SENSE.
8/20/09 14:27:39 THE PROBLEM IS IN THIS SETTING
8/20/09 14:27:42 WHERE THERE IS SO MUCH OF THAT,
8/20/09 14:27:43 AND WHERE WE CAN'T --I DON'T
8/20/09 14:27:46 THINK WE CAN WRITE MARGARITA,
8/20/09 14:27:49 TEQUILA, BUT ONLY
8/20/09 14:27:50 IN MARGARITAS
8/20/09 14:27:53 INTO THE --INTO A SPECIAL USE
8/20/09 14:27:54 PERMIT FOR ALCOHOL.
8/20/09 14:27:56 SO I JUST HAVE TO SAY BECAUSE
8/20/09 14:27:57 THAT IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
8/20/09 14:27:58 I DO LIVE THERE.
8/20/09 14:28:00 I HAVEN'T LIVED THERE THAT
8/20/09 14:28:01 LONG.
8/20/09 14:28:03 BUT THE WHOLE CHARACTER OF THE
8/20/09 14:28:04 NEIGHBORHOOD HAS CHANGED FROM
8/20/09 14:28:07 BEING RESTAURANT ROAD TO
8/20/09 14:28:08 BEING
8/20/09 14:28:08 BARROW.
8/20/09 14:28:08 BAR SCENE.
8/20/09 14:28:10 >> THAT IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO
8/20/09 14:28:11 CHANGE THOUGH.
8/20/09 14:28:11 >> RIGHT.
8/20/09 14:28:13 BUT YOU'RE EITHER --IF YOU'RE
8/20/09 14:28:15 NICHE IS TO BE FOR FAMILIES
8/20/09 14:28:18 LIKE ME WHO WANT TO GO
8/20/09 14:28:19 TO GET
8/20/09 14:28:22 TACOS OR GET MEXICAN FOOD, THEN
8/20/09 14:28:25 YOUR COMPETITION IS REALLY LIKE
8/20/09 14:28:28 CHIHUAHUA'S OR CHIPOTLE.
8/20/09 14:28:28 I DON'T KNOW.
8/20/09 14:28:29 DO THEY HAVE BEER?
8/20/09 14:28:30 THEY MIGHT HAVE BEER.
8/20/09 14:28:33 I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THAT.
8/20/09 14:28:34 CHIHUAHUA'S, I THINK --THEY
8/20/09 14:28:35 ARE DOWN ON McVILLE.
8/20/09 14:28:37 THEY JUST HAVE BEER AND WINE OR
8/20/09 14:28:38 MAYBE JUST BEER.
8/20/09 14:28:41 SO I THINK --I MEAN, TO ME, AS
8/20/09 14:28:42 A POTENTIAL CUSTOMER, I AM
8/20/09 14:28:45 LIKELY TO GO THERE
8/20/09 14:28:46 WITH MY
8/20/09 14:28:48 FAMILY WELL BEFORE 11:00 AT
8/20/09 14:28:51 NIGHT, YOU KNOW SH,
8/20/09 14:28:52 PROBABLY
8/20/09 14:28:52 DINNERTIME, LUNCHTIME.
8/20/09 14:28:54 AND YOU --I THINK THAT YOU
8/20/09 14:28:55 WOULD DO A GOOD BUSINESS THERE
8/20/09 14:28:57 BECAUSE WE ARE --WE DON'T HAVE
8/20/09 14:28:59 --WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, OLD
8/20/09 14:29:00 MEETING HOUSE ANYMORE.
8/20/09 14:29:03 WE DON'T HAVE THE TACORIA WHICH
8/20/09 14:29:04 DID REALLY GOOD BUSINESS WHICH
8/20/09 14:29:06 IS BEER AND WINE, I THINK.
8/20/09 14:29:08 SO I DON'T SEE IT, FOR YOU, AS
8/20/09 14:29:11 A BUSINESS
8/20/09 14:29:14 PERSON,
8/20/09 14:29:16 I THINK YOU
8/20/09 14:29:16 --
8/20/09 14:29:18 >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
8/20/09 14:29:19 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 14:29:19 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 14:29:23 >> I WOULD LIKE
8/20/09 14:29:26 TO
8/20/09 14:29:26 --
8/20/09 14:29:29 >> A LETTER THAT
8/20/09 14:29:32 WAS WRITTEN BY
8/20/09 14:29:36 ?
8/20/09 14:29:40 >> THE
8/20/09 14:29:46 TREASURER.
8/20/09 14:29:49 I WOULD LIKE
8/20/09 14:29:52 TO SAY THAT UP
8/20/09 14:29:53 UNTIL LITERALLY UNTIL 11:30
8/20/09 14:29:55 THIS MORNING I WAS COLLECTING
8/20/09 14:29:56 PETITIONS FROM NEIGHBORS.
8/20/09 14:29:57 WE WALKED DOOR TO DOOR.
8/20/09 14:29:59 AND I DID A MAP FOR YOU.
8/20/09 14:30:01 FOR EVERYBODY I WENT TO.
8/20/09 14:30:02 IT'S ALL DATED --AND I DON'T
8/20/09 14:30:05 THINK IT'S DATED, BUT IT'S ALL
8/20/09 14:30:07 THE ADDRESSES PROVIDED.
8/20/09 14:30:10 WE ALSO --WE ALSO EXTENDED
8/20/09 14:30:13 OURSELVES,
8/20/09 14:30:14 MADE OURSELVES
8/20/09 14:30:16 AVAILABLE TO THE COURIER STI.
8/20/09 14:30:17 THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
8/20/09 14:30:19 WE DID IT ON TWO DIFFERENT
8/20/09 14:30:19 OCCASIONS.
8/20/09 14:30:22 AND
8/20/09 14:30:25 WE WENT BEFORE THEM ABOUT
8/20/09 14:30:28 FOUR WEEKS
8/20/09 14:30:30 AGO.
8/20/09 14:30:32 AND THEY LEFT WITH THE
8/20/09 14:30:32 MAJORITY.
8/20/09 14:30:34 I THINK GENA ELUDES TO IT.
8/20/09 14:30:37 THERE WAS
8/20/09 14:30:40 A
8/20/09 14:30:41 5-1. APPROVAL RATE.
8/20/09 14:30:41 AMONG THE ASSOCIATION.
8/20/09 14:30:43 AND THEY BID US A GOOD EVENING
8/20/09 14:30:45 AND WISHED US WELL.
8/20/09 14:30:47 AND I'M AWARE, AND I HAVE
8/20/09 14:30:47 SPOKEN.
8/20/09 14:30:48 I KNOW THAT HE'S GOING TO COME
8/20/09 14:30:50 UP AND SPEAK ON OPPOSITION TO
8/20/09 14:30:50 IT TODAY.
8/20/09 14:30:51 HE DID SHARE THAT COMMITTEE.
8/20/09 14:30:54 AND I FOUND OUT ABOUT
8/20/09 14:30:57 THAT ON
8/20/09 14:31:00 MONDAY.
8/20/09 14:31:01 AND WE HAVE GREAT CONVERSATION.
8/20/09 14:31:04 AND
8/20/09 14:31:07 I RESPECT
8/20/09 14:31:08 HIM.
8/20/09 14:31:11 AND TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUE ON
8/20/09 14:31:11 HAND.
8/20/09 14:31:13 AND WHEN WE LEFT THAT MEETING,
8/20/09 14:31:14 WE THOUGHT HONESTLY --WE
8/20/09 14:31:15 WALKED OUT OF THERE.
8/20/09 14:31:18 AND WE WALKED OUT OF HERE.
8/20/09 14:31:19 WE ARE PLEASED.
8/20/09 14:31:21 THAT'S A NATURAL THING TO BE.
8/20/09 14:31:23 AND HI TO FIND OUT ABOUT IT
8/20/09 14:31:25 BASICALLY IN A ROUND ABOUT
8/20/09 14:31:26 WAYMENT AND I WISH I HAD THE
8/20/09 14:31:27 OPPORTUNITY.
8/20/09 14:31:29 I DID SPEAK WITH HIM THE NIGHT
8/20/09 14:31:30 THAT I LEARNED ABOUT IT.
8/20/09 14:31:32 AND LIKE I SAID, I HAVE
8/20/09 14:31:33 ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AGAINST HIM.
8/20/09 14:31:35 EVERYBODY IS ENTITLED TO THEIR
8/20/09 14:31:35 OPINION.
8/20/09 14:31:36 WE JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE HAD A
8/20/09 14:31:37 DIFFERENT ONE AT THIS POINT.
8/20/09 14:31:39 BUT I DID WANT TO BRING THAT TO
8/20/09 14:31:41 YOUR ATTENTION IN THE FACT THAT
8/20/09 14:31:43 I THINK THAT WE DID A LOT OF
8/20/09 14:31:43 HOMEWORK.
8/20/09 14:31:45 AND WE TALKED TO PEOPLE ALL
8/20/09 14:31:46 THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
8/20/09 14:31:47 PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE AS WELL AS
8/20/09 14:31:50 RESIDENTIAL PEOPLE IN THE
8/20/09 14:31:50 NEIGHBORHOOD.
8/20/09 14:31:50 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 14:31:51 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 14:31:51 >> ALL RIGHT.
8/20/09 14:31:53 >> AND ANYONE WISH TO ADDRESS
8/20/09 14:31:54 COUNCILMAN COME FORWARD AT THIS
8/20/09 14:31:55 TIME?
8/20/09 14:31:58 IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS
8/20/09 14:32:01 COUNCIL,
8/20/09 14:32:04 COME
8/20/09 14:32:07 FORWARD.
8/20/09 14:32:18 SOMEBODY COME.
8/20/09 14:32:19 GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
8/20/09 14:32:22 MY NAME IS
8/20/09 14:32:25 WALTER --
8/20/09 14:32:25 >> 503.
8/20/09 14:32:27 AND YOU SEE ME UP HERE IN A
8/20/09 14:32:29 DIFFERENT SETTING BEFORE.
8/20/09 14:32:30 AND I WAS PRESENT AT THE
8/20/09 14:32:33 MEETING WHERE THE ASSOCIATION
8/20/09 14:32:33 TOOK THE VOTE.
8/20/09 14:32:36 THEY WERE EIGHT PAID MEMBERS
8/20/09 14:32:36 THERE.
8/20/09 14:32:37 FIVE VOTED IN FAVOR.
8/20/09 14:32:40 THREE OF
8/20/09 14:32:42 US VOTED AGAINST.
8/20/09 14:32:44 THE MORE I THOUGHT ABOUT IT
8/20/09 14:32:46 AFTER THAT MEETING, I REALIZED
8/20/09 14:32:49 THAT I AM VERY
8/20/09 14:32:51 OPPOSED TO THIS
8/20/09 14:32:54 SHE SAID I WOULD NOT BE
8/20/09 14:32:56 HERE TO
8/20/09 14:32:57 PRESENT THE ASSOCIATION THAT I
8/20/09 14:32:59 AS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT LIVE IN
8/20/09 14:33:01 THE NEIGHBORHOOD FELT SO
8/20/09 14:33:02 STRONGLY AGAINST IT.
8/20/09 14:33:05 SO THAT IS WHY I AM
8/20/09 14:33:05 HERE TODAY.
8/20/09 14:33:07 AND WHAT THE GAISM PLAN IS.
8/20/09 14:33:09 I DON'T KNOW WHAT GENA WROTE
8/20/09 14:33:10 YOU, BUT BASICALLY THERE WERE
8/20/09 14:33:12 ABOUT EIGHT PAID MEMBERS THE
8/20/09 14:33:13 ASSOCIATION THERE.
8/20/09 14:33:16 AND THAT WAS THE VOTE AS
8/20/09 14:33:17 I
8/20/09 14:33:17 RECALL IT.
8/20/09 14:33:18 >> YOU OUGHT TO REALLY
8/20/09 14:33:21 RECOGNIZE THIS THING BECAUSE ON
8/20/09 14:33:24 DECEMBER 18TH OF 2009,
8/20/09 14:33:24 WE STOOD
8/20/09 14:33:27 HERE AND WENT THROUGH ALL THIS
8/20/09 14:33:27 AGAIN.
8/20/09 14:33:30 AND AT THAT TIME, YOU WANTED
8/20/09 14:33:33 TO
8/20/09 14:33:36 IMPOSE HOURLY
8/20/09 14:33:37 RESTRICTIONS.
8/20/09 14:33:40 AND YOU SAW FIT --
8/20/09 14:33:40 OUR
8/20/09 14:33:43 PETITIONER SAW FIT INSTEAD TO
8/20/09 14:33:45 WITHDRAW THE POSITION WHICH
8/20/09 14:33:46 THEY ARE ENTITLED TO DO.
8/20/09 14:33:48 I JUST GET TIRED OF COMING DOWN
8/20/09 14:33:51 HERE ON THE SAME THING OVER AND
8/20/09 14:33:52 OVER AGAIN.
8/20/09 14:33:55 INCIDENTALLY I
8/20/09 14:33:58 HAVE SOME
8/20/09 14:34:04 PETITIONS.
8/20/09 14:34:08 I HAVE TALKED CONSIDERABLY
8/20/09 14:34:09 ABOUT THIS.
8/20/09 14:34:12 AND WE ARE VERY CONCERNED WITH
8/20/09 14:34:13 THE GENERAL DIRECTION THAT WET
8/20/09 14:34:16 ZONING IS TAKING
8/20/09 14:34:18 IN THIS
8/20/09 14:34:18 NEIGHBORHOOD.
8/20/09 14:34:19 AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT
8/20/09 14:34:20 PETITION, YOU WILL SEE WITHIN
8/20/09 14:34:22 THREE BLOCKS THERE ARE 12 OR 13
8/20/09 14:34:24 IS PLACES THAT ALREADY SERVE
8/20/09 14:34:26 ALCOHOL IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER
8/20/09 14:34:29 INCLUDING THE
8/20/09 14:34:32 PRESENT ZONING
8/20/09 14:34:32 SITE.
8/20/09 14:34:33 HE IS A FINE GENTLEMEN.
8/20/09 14:34:35 I HAVE EATEN IN HIS RESTAURANT
8/20/09 14:34:36 MANY TIMES.
8/20/09 14:34:37 AND WHEN WE TALKED THE OTHER
8/20/09 14:34:39 NIGHT, I SAID YOU KNOW IF YOU
8/20/09 14:34:41 ARE THERE RUNNING IT, THAT'S
8/20/09 14:34:41 GREAT.
8/20/09 14:34:42 BUT WHAT ASSURANCE DO YOU HAVE
8/20/09 14:34:43 THAT YOU'LL BE THERE A YEAR
8/20/09 14:34:44 FROM NOW?
8/20/09 14:34:47 I GOT NO ANSWER
8/20/09 14:34:47 WHATSOEVER ON
8/20/09 14:34:47 THAT.
8/20/09 14:34:50 SO AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IT
8/20/09 14:34:53 LOOKS LIKE MAYBE HE'S JUST
8/20/09 14:34:53 A
8/20/09 14:34:54 FRONT MAN.
8/20/09 14:34:57 WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT
8/20/09 14:34:58 IS
8/20/09 14:35:01 THE LONG-TERM AFFECT OF THIS
8/20/09 14:35:04 KIND OF ZONING IN
8/20/09 14:35:04 THAT
8/20/09 14:35:06 NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THE ZONING
8/20/09 14:35:09 GOES WITH THE
8/20/09 14:35:11 PROPERTY.
8/20/09 14:35:12 AND THEREFORE THE MORE OF THESE
8/20/09 14:35:15 THAT YOU GRANT, YOU'VE GOT IT
8/20/09 14:35:16 CONSOLIDATED, IT'S TURNING INTO
8/20/09 14:35:18 ANOTHER CITY WITHOUT THE
8/20/09 14:35:19 INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT IT.
8/20/09 14:35:21 MR. OR ADVERTISE ALREADY
8/20/09 14:35:23 OPERATES THE CHIEF ACROSS THE
8/20/09 14:35:25 STREET, THE KENNEDY ON KENNEDY
8/20/09 14:35:28 BOULEVARD, AND HIDE
8/20/09 14:35:28 PARK CAFE.
8/20/09 14:35:30 I DON'T SEE WHY HE CAN'T GET
8/20/09 14:35:32 ALONG WITH THE TWO COPR THAT HE
8/20/09 14:35:35 HAS AT THE PRESENT
8/20/09 14:35:35 TIME.
8/20/09 14:35:38 ONE OF THE THINGS I POINTED OUT
8/20/09 14:35:39 TO YOU A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO
8/20/09 14:35:42 WHEN I WAS HERE IS IN
8/20/09 14:35:43 THIS CITY
8/20/09 14:35:46 CODE, YOU HAVE DISTANCING
8/20/09 14:35:52 REQUIREMENTS FOR DISTANCES FROM
8/20/09 14:35:55 RESIDENTS AND OTHERS.
8/20/09 14:35:58 AND THEY ARE IN THE CODE FOR
8/20/09 14:35:58 A
8/20/09 14:35:58 REASON.
8/20/09 14:36:00 AND I JUST ASK THAT YOU
8/20/09 14:36:03 CONSIDER THAT AS WELL AS THE
8/20/09 14:36:05 OTHER PROVUGSES OF THE CODE
8/20/09 14:36:08 ABOUT THE AFFECT ON THE
8/20/09 14:36:08 NEIGHBORHOOD.
8/20/09 14:36:10 AND THE A--ADVERSE AFFECTS AND
8/20/09 14:36:12 WLRNT WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE
8/20/09 14:36:14 MITT GAILTED, --MITIGATED, THE
8/20/09 14:36:17 NUMBER OF NEIGHBORS
8/20/09 14:36:18 THEY
8/20/09 14:36:19 REQUESTED AND YOU SHOULD
8/20/09 14:36:22 CAREFULLY CONSIDER
8/20/09 14:36:25 THOSE
8/20/09 14:36:25 MATTERS.
8/20/09 14:36:27 NEXT SPEAKER.
8/20/09 14:36:30 MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER SCOTT.
8/20/09 14:36:33 I LIVE ADD
8/20/09 14:36:36 1121 ABBEY
8/20/09 14:36:38 WAY.
8/20/09 14:36:41 I KNOW THAT WE HAVE
8/20/09 14:36:42 BEEN
8/20/09 14:36:43 ENGAGED IN THE PAST EIGHT
8/20/09 14:36:45 MONTHS SINCE THE TACORIA CLOSED
8/20/09 14:36:47 DUE TO POOR ECONOMIC
8/20/09 14:36:47 CONDITIONS.
8/20/09 14:36:50 WITH LITERALLY DOZENS
8/20/09 14:36:56 OF
8/20/09 14:36:57 PEOPLE
8/20/09 14:36:59 THAT WANT TO MOVE IN AND WORK
8/20/09 14:37:00 THAT SITE.
8/20/09 14:37:01 WITHOUT ANY DOUBT, MARK IS BY
8/20/09 14:37:04 FAR THE BEST CANDIDATE TO BE IN
8/20/09 14:37:07 THAT PLACE IN THE --TO REOPEN
8/20/09 14:37:07 IT.
8/20/09 14:37:09 I HAVE KNOWN MARK FROM EATING
8/20/09 14:37:10 IN HIS PLACES.
8/20/09 14:37:12 I KNEW HIM WHEN HE HAD HIS
8/20/09 14:37:14 PLACE ON PLATT STREET BECAUSE
8/20/09 14:37:15 WE OWNED PROPERTY NEXT TO HIM.
8/20/09 14:37:17 SO WE KNOW WHAT KIND OF AN
8/20/09 14:37:18 OPERATOR HE IS.
8/20/09 14:37:20 WE KNOW HOW CLEAN HE KEEPS HIS
8/20/09 14:37:21 PLACE.
8/20/09 14:37:22 WE KNOW HIS BUSINESS
8/20/09 14:37:23 PRINCIPLES.
8/20/09 14:37:25 HE IS, IN MY EYES, A LEADER OF
8/20/09 14:37:26 THE INDUSTRY.
8/20/09 14:37:27 NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
8/20/09 14:37:28 AND PROBABLY THE HARDEST-
8/20/09 14:37:31 WORKING GUY I'VE EVER MET.
8/20/09 14:37:33 I FULLY SUPPORT HIM IN MAKING
8/20/09 14:37:33 IT.
8/20/09 14:37:34 HE CAN MAKE IT THERE.
8/20/09 14:37:36 HE'LL BE THERE A YEAR FROM
8/20/09 14:37:36 THERE.
8/20/09 14:37:38 HE'LL BE THERE TEN YEARS FROM
8/20/09 14:37:41 NOW
8/20/09 14:37:44 GIVEN THE
8/20/09 14:37:45 OPPORTUNITY.
8/20/09 14:37:46 THE RIGHT OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE
8/20/09 14:37:47 IT WORK.
8/20/09 14:37:48 I AM ASKING THAT YOU GIVE THAT
8/20/09 14:37:49 TO HIM.
8/20/09 14:37:51 >> CAN I ASK MR. SCOTT A
8/20/09 14:37:51 QUESTION.
8/20/09 14:37:51 >> CHRIS?
8/20/09 14:37:54 >> CAN I ASK
8/20/09 14:37:57 YOU A
8/20/09 14:37:58 QUESTION.
8/20/09 14:38:01 YOU ARE ONE OF THE PROPERTY
8/20/09 14:38:01 OWNERS.
8/20/09 14:38:04 AND YOU HEARD ME EARLIER ASKED
8/20/09 14:38:07 ABOUT
8/20/09 14:38:10 HOURS OF
8/20/09 14:38:13 OPERATION.
8/20/09 14:38:15 I DON'T THINK THIS COUNCIL BY
8/20/09 14:38:18 ANY MEANS IS PICKING
8/20/09 14:38:19 ON THESE.
8/20/09 14:38:20 YOU HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT UP AND
8/20/09 14:38:21 DOWN THE STREET.
8/20/09 14:38:23 NOT TO DENY WET ZONINGS BUT
8/20/09 14:38:24 JUST TO TRY AND HAVE SOME
8/20/09 14:38:26 REASONABLE HOURS OF OPERATION.
8/20/09 14:38:27 WE ALL KNOW THAT THURSDAY,
8/20/09 14:38:29 FRIDAY, SATURDAY IS THE LATE OR
8/20/09 14:38:30 TIME IN THE EVENING, AND THINGS
8/20/09 14:38:32 SHOULD GO ON A LITTLE LATER.
8/20/09 14:38:34 BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT IS
8/20/09 14:38:37 UNLIMITED UNTIL 3:00 IN THE
8/20/09 14:38:40 MORNING 7
8/20/09 14:38:42 DAYS A WEEK.
8/20/09 14:38:45 YOU AND I ARE ABOUT THE SAME
8/20/09 14:38:46 AGE.
8/20/09 14:38:47 YOU SHOULD RECOGNIZE THERE ARE
8/20/09 14:38:48 NEIGHBORS BUDDING UP TO ALL
8/20/09 14:38:49 THESE RESTAURANTS THAT WOULD
8/20/09 14:38:51 LIKE A MORE PEACE AND QUIET
8/20/09 14:38:52 WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY.
8/20/09 14:38:54 SO AS THE PROPERTY OWNER, AND
8/20/09 14:38:56 YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THIS
8/20/09 14:38:56 RIGHT NOW.
8/20/09 14:38:58 YOU CAN GO BACK AND CONVENE
8/20/09 14:39:00 WITH DOMMY OR WHOEVER WITH MARK
8/20/09 14:39:01 AND DEE DEE.
8/20/09 14:39:02 YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST ASK YOU
8/20/09 14:39:04 TO TRY AND COME BACK TO THIS
8/20/09 14:39:05 PORT IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES
8/20/09 14:39:07 WHEN WE ARE DONE HERING FROM
8/20/09 14:39:09 EVERYBODY AND SEE IF THERE ARE
8/20/09 14:39:11 HOURS OF OPERATION WE ARE ALL
8/20/09 14:39:12 IN WITH.
8/20/09 14:39:14 >> I THINK TOMMY WILL AGREASE
8/20/09 14:39:14 THAT RIGHT NOW.
8/20/09 14:39:16 >> I DIDN'T WANT TO CUT OFF THE
8/20/09 14:39:19 REST OF THE SPEAKERS, SO I GOT
8/20/09 14:39:19 TOMMY.
8/20/09 14:39:20 TOMMY CAN COME BACK.
8/20/09 14:39:23 YOU CAN COME BACK AND
8/20/09 14:39:27 REBUTTAL
8/20/09 14:39:30 OR
8/20/09 14:39:33 WHATEVER.
8/20/09 14:39:36 >> THE BOARD OF
8/20/09 14:39:37 DIRECTORS AND
8/20/09 14:39:39 BAYSHORE GARDENS IS OPPOSED
8/20/09 14:39:39 FROM THAT.
8/20/09 14:39:40 AIM NOT SHEER.
8/20/09 14:39:42 --I AM HERE AS A CITIZEN OF
8/20/09 14:39:43 TAMPA.
8/20/09 14:39:46 I WAS INVOLVED IN THE
8/20/09 14:39:48 IMPLEMENTATION OF THE
8/20/09 14:39:49 GUIDELINES IN 1997.
8/20/09 14:39:50 I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE AN
8/20/09 14:39:52 OVERALL PROBLEM WITH LACK OF
8/20/09 14:39:55 ENFORCEMENT OF THE
8/20/09 14:39:57 SOH HADO
8/20/09 14:39:57 GUIDELINES.
8/20/09 14:39:59 AND SPEAK TO THE GUIDELINES.
8/20/09 14:40:02 THERE'S NEVER ANYONE HERE FROM
8/20/09 14:40:03 THE CITY STAFF TO SPEAK TO.
8/20/09 14:40:06 IN
8/20/09 14:40:08 FACT, I CALLED.
8/20/09 14:40:09 HIS NAME IS MR. CALLAHAN.
8/20/09 14:40:11 SKIED IF HE WAS GOING TO BE
8/20/09 14:40:11 HERE.
8/20/09 14:40:14 I ASKED HIM WHOAFS ENFORCER OF
8/20/09 14:40:14 THE SOHO GUIDELINES.
8/20/09 14:40:15 HE DIDN'T KNOW.
8/20/09 14:40:18 THIS IS NOT A
8/20/09 14:40:24 HEARING ABOUT
8/20/09 14:40:25 THE
8/20/09 14:40:27 I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL
8/20/09 14:40:28 SECTION 27.
8/20/09 14:40:29 58.
8/20/09 14:40:30 THE INTENT OF DECLARATION OF
8/20/09 14:40:30 PUBLIC POLICY.
8/20/09 14:40:33 IT SAYS THAT THE PURPOSE OF AN
8/20/09 14:40:36 OVERLAY
8/20/09 14:40:39 DISTRICT IS TO
8/20/09 14:40:41 ALLOW TO
8/20/09 14:40:42 A DISTINCT GENTLEMEN GRAPHIC
8/20/09 14:40:42 AREA.
8/20/09 14:40:44 TO A UNIQUE SITUATION OF
8/20/09 14:40:45 PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES
8/20/09 14:40:47 RESULTING FROM HISTORIC
8/20/09 14:40:47 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
8/20/09 14:40:50 EXISTING CONDITIONS IN THE
8/20/09 14:40:53 DEVELOPMENT ARE SUCH WITH
8/20/09 14:40:55 THE
8/20/09 14:40:55 UNDERLYING REGULATION.
8/20/09 14:40:57 WITHOUT CAUSING SUBSTANTIAL
8/20/09 14:40:59 HARDSHIP TO THE PUBLIC GOOD.
8/20/09 14:41:00 >> AND TO PRESERVE ORIGINAL
8/20/09 14:41:01 PRECEDENT PATTERNS OF
8/20/09 14:41:03 DEVELOPMENT AND AREAS WHERE THE
8/20/09 14:41:06 UNDERLYING ZONING REGULATION
8/20/09 14:41:08 COULD POTENTIALLY DISRUPT THE
8/20/09 14:41:11 EXISTING DESIRE SCALE,
8/20/09 14:41:13 FACIAL
8/20/09 14:41:16 PATTERN, AND THE RESIDENT IS
8/20/09 14:41:18 INTENDED TO STABILIZE AND YOU
8/20/09 14:41:20 IMPROVE PROPERTY VALUES AND
8/20/09 14:41:20 FOSTER CIVIC PRIDE.
8/20/09 14:41:23 WE ARE NOT FOSTERING CIVIC
8/20/09 14:41:24 PRIDE ALONG HOWARD AVENUE AT
8/20/09 14:41:24 THIS MOMENT.
8/20/09 14:41:26 WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING SAY
8/20/09 14:41:27 DRUNKEN STREET PARTY.
8/20/09 14:41:28 WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A BUILDING
8/20/09 14:41:31 THAT HAS 8,000 SQUARE
8/20/09 14:41:33 FEET
8/20/09 14:41:34 OUTSIDE --3,000 OUTSIDE AND
8/20/09 14:41:36 800 SQUARE FEET INSIDE, WE ARE
8/20/09 14:41:37 JUST ADDING TO THE PROBLEM THAT
8/20/09 14:41:40 WE ALREADY HAVE ON SOUTH HOWARD
8/20/09 14:41:42 AVENUE.
8/20/09 14:41:45 I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE
8/20/09 14:41:48 COME UP AND STR SOME
8/20/09 14:41:49 TYPE OF
8/20/09 14:41:49 ENFORCEMENT.
8/20/09 14:41:52 I WOULD ASK HOW WE ENFORCE THE
8/20/09 14:41:52 SOHO GUIDELINES.
8/20/09 14:41:54 I HAVE HAVE BEEN BRINGING THAT
8/20/09 14:41:55 FOR YOU FOR TEN YEARS.
8/20/09 14:41:58 I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY MORE
8/20/09 14:41:58 ZONING ALCOHOL PERMITS,
8/20/09 14:41:59 BUILDING OR ANYTHING UNTIL WE
8/20/09 14:42:01 HAVE A WAY TO REVIEW THIS AND
8/20/09 14:42:04 ENFORCE
8/20/09 14:42:07 IMMATERIAL
8/20/09 14:42:10 IN
8/20/09 14:42:11 THE THE
8/20/09 14:42:12 BUSINESSES THAT HAVE ALCOHOL
8/20/09 14:42:15 PERMITS TO DETERMINE WHETHER
8/20/09 14:42:18 THEY MEET THE 50% RULE.
8/20/09 14:42:19 THERE SEEMS TO BE NO WAY IF WE
8/20/09 14:42:20 BELIEVE THEY ARE NOT MEETING
8/20/09 14:42:22 THE 50% RULE THAT THE CITY HAS
8/20/09 14:42:25 A WAY OF
8/20/09 14:42:28 DEALING WITH THIS.
8/20/09 14:42:29 I DON'T BELIEVE SELF-REPORTING,
8/20/09 14:42:30 IF THERE SAY PROBLEM, THERE'S
8/20/09 14:42:32 ANY WAY FOR US TO ADDRESS US AS
8/20/09 14:42:34 LONG AS THE PERSON TAKES THEIR
8/20/09 14:42:35 FORM AND PAYS THE MONEY,
8/20/09 14:42:38 THERE'S NO WAY TO DEAL WITH A
8/20/09 14:42:41 POTENTIAL LACK
8/20/09 14:42:44 OF DOING
8/20/09 14:42:48 THAT.
8/20/09 14:42:51 THE EXISTING ONES THAT ARE IN
8/20/09 14:42:52 PLACE ARE BEING ADHERED TO.
8/20/09 14:42:54 I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO ADD
8/20/09 14:42:57 WHAT'S GOING ON ON SOUTH
8/20/09 14:42:58 HOWARD
8/20/09 14:42:58 AVENUE.
8/20/09 14:43:00 I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE
8/20/09 14:43:00 DENY THAT REQUEST.
8/20/09 14:43:03 >> THANK.
8/20/09 14:43:06 YOU NEXT
8/20/09 14:43:12 SPEAKER?
8/20/09 14:43:18 >> I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
8/20/09 14:43:19 I'M NOT SURE THERE'S MUCH MORE
8/20/09 14:43:22 OTHER THAN WHAT SHE HAD TO
8/20/09 14:43:23 SAY.
8/20/09 14:43:26 BUT WHAT I HAVE
8/20/09 14:43:27 HERE.
8/20/09 14:43:31 IT'S THE HOURS OF
8/20/09 14:43:32 RESTAURANT
8/20/09 14:43:32 RIGHT NOW.
8/20/09 14:43:33 TO KIND OF TAKE A LOOK THROUGH
8/20/09 14:43:36 IT AND SEE IT ON THE WEEKENDS
8/20/09 14:43:38 WHICH I AM DESCRIBING AS
8/20/09 14:43:39 FRIDAY, SATURDAY EVENING THE
8/20/09 14:43:43 MAJORITY
8/20/09 14:43:46 OF THESE REST
8/20/09 14:43:46 RAWFNTS
8/20/09 14:43:46 CLOSE AT 11:00 OR 123-BG.
8/20/09 14:43:48 THE ONES THAT CLOSE AT 3:00 OR
8/20/09 14:43:52 LATER, AROUND 3:00 ARE IF ONES
8/20/09 14:43:53 THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTINGS.
8/20/09 14:43:54 AND THOSE ARE PRIMARILY THE
8/20/09 14:43:57 ONES THAT
8/20/09 14:44:00 ARE THE
8/20/09 14:44:03 BARS.
8/20/09 14:44:06 MY POINT HERE IS
8/20/09 14:44:07 IF WE WANT TO
8/20/09 14:44:09 GRANT ANOTHER LIQUOR LICENSE.
8/20/09 14:44:10 IT'S OBVIOUS THAT ANYTHING
8/20/09 14:44:13 AFTER WHAT 12:00 IS REALLY NOT
8/20/09 14:44:15 RESTAURANT.
8/20/09 14:44:16 IT'S A BAR.
8/20/09 14:44:19 AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THE
8/20/09 14:44:19 INTENTIONS ARE GOOD.
8/20/09 14:44:22 IT'S JUST THAT WE
8/20/09 14:44:24 HAVE NO
8/20/09 14:44:25 ASSURANCE THAT HE DOES THE
8/20/09 14:44:26 SALES, THEN WE ARE STUCK WITH A
8/20/09 14:44:28 PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS FULLY
8/20/09 14:44:29 ZONED.
8/20/09 14:44:32 AND THAT HAS HAPPENED TO US
8/20/09 14:44:34 IN
8/20/09 14:44:35 THE PAST.
8/20/09 14:44:37 I BELIEVE IT'S CALLED THE SOHO
8/20/09 14:44:40 AT
8/20/09 14:44:42 THAT VERN NOW.
8/20/09 14:44:45 THE RESTAURANT PERSON CAME
8/20/09 14:44:47 BEFORE THE NEIGHBORHOOD
8/20/09 14:44:48 ASSOCIATION.
8/20/09 14:44:49 WE ALL SUPPORTED THAT.
8/20/09 14:44:49 THAT RESTAURANT DIDN'T LAST
8/20/09 14:44:51 VERY LONG AT ALL.
8/20/09 14:44:53 WHAT WENT IN ITS PLACE IS A
8/20/09 14:44:53 BAR.
8/20/09 14:44:56 SO NOW THAT IS WHAT WE
8/20/09 14:45:00 ARE FACED
8/20/09 14:45:01 WITH.
8/20/09 14:45:04 SO, I'M ASKING IF YOU
8/20/09 14:45:07 GO
8/20/09 14:45:07 AHEAD
8/20/09 14:45:10 AND APPROVE THE ALCOHOL PERMIT
8/20/09 14:45:11 THAT WE SET SOME KIND OF
8/20/09 14:45:14 RESTRICTION ON THE
8/20/09 14:45:14 HOURS.
8/20/09 14:45:16 OTHERWISE I AM IN FAVOR OF
8/20/09 14:45:19 DENYING IT
8/20/09 14:45:22 COMPLETELY.
8/20/09 14:45:25 >> THANK
8/20/09 14:45:25 YOU.
8/20/09 14:45:28 >> OWSH --OUR NEXT
8/20/09 14:45:29 305 SOUTH
8/20/09 14:45:30 MELVILLE.
8/20/09 14:45:33 AT THE CORNER OF PLATT.
8/20/09 14:45:34 EVERY WEEKEND I AM REMINDED
8/20/09 14:45:35 WITH THE BARS BECAUSE TRAFFIC
8/20/09 14:45:38 UP AND DOWN PLAT STREET FROM
8/20/09 14:45:41 THE RACK, HIGH
8/20/09 14:45:42 CART CAFE.
8/20/09 14:45:42 CONSTANTLY.
8/20/09 14:45:45 I CAN TELL YOU WHEN IT IS
8/20/09 14:45:49 3:00
8/20/09 14:45:52 MONDAY
8/20/09 14:45:55 MORNING.
8/20/09 14:45:57 >> ANYONE ELSE?
8/20/09 14:45:58 >> APPLICANT.
8/20/09 14:46:00 >> YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
8/20/09 14:46:01 >> ALL RIGHT.
8/20/09 14:46:02 I WOULD AGREE WITH A LOT OF
8/20/09 14:46:05 WHAT IS SAID HERE TODAY WITH
8/20/09 14:46:05 THE OPPOSITION.
8/20/09 14:46:08 AND HOWEVER, I THINK THAT
8/20/09 14:46:10 THAT
8/20/09 14:46:11 THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY --
8/20/09 14:46:14 >> IT'S ALREADY
8/20/09 14:46:15 WET ZONED.
8/20/09 14:46:15 3:00.
8/20/09 14:46:18 7 DAYS A
8/20/09 14:46:18 WEEK.
8/20/09 14:46:19 PACKAGED BEER AND LIME.
8/20/09 14:46:20 IT CAN BE A 7/11.
8/20/09 14:46:22 IT CAN BE A BEER BARN.
8/20/09 14:46:24 IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A
8/20/09 14:46:24 RESTAURANT.
8/20/09 14:46:26 THE REASON WHY WE WITHDREW OUR
8/20/09 14:46:27 POSITION LAST TIME IS BECAUSE
8/20/09 14:46:29 WHEN I WENT HOME AND RAN THE
8/20/09 14:46:31 NUMBERS ON THE RESTRICTED HOURS
8/20/09 14:46:33 I WAS GIVEN, WE COULDN'T MAKE
8/20/09 14:46:34 IT.
8/20/09 14:46:35 I WOULD BE KIDDING YOU IF I
8/20/09 14:46:38 SAID I COULD MAKE IT UNDER
8/20/09 14:46:39 RESTRICTED HOURS.
8/20/09 14:46:42 AS A PROPERTY OWNER HI TO
8/20/09 14:46:43 REVALUE MY BUSINESS AND
8/20/09 14:46:43 PROPERTY.
8/20/09 14:46:45 I WENT TO AN ACCOUNT NT AND
8/20/09 14:46:46 THEY SAID IF YOU TAKE A
8/20/09 14:46:47 RESTRICTED ZONING YOU'RE GOING
8/20/09 14:46:49 TO DEVALUE WHAT YOU PAY FOR
8/20/09 14:46:50 THAT PROPERTY.
8/20/09 14:46:51 UNFORTUNATELY, WE PAY TOP
8/20/09 14:46:51 DOLLAR.
8/20/09 14:46:52 WE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN
8/20/09 14:46:54 LOOKING OUT FOR THE PROPERTY
8/20/09 14:46:55 AND WHAT IT STANDS FOR IN
8/20/09 14:46:55 VALUE.
8/20/09 14:46:57 WE THEN WENT BACK TO THE
8/20/09 14:46:59 NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE HAD MANY AS
8/20/09 14:47:02 MARK SAID, MANY NEIGHBORHOOD
8/20/09 14:47:02 DISCUSSIONS.
8/20/09 14:47:03 THE NEIGHBORS WERE DISAPPOINTED
8/20/09 14:47:04 THAT THEIR VOTE IN DECEMBER
8/20/09 14:47:05 DIDN'T COUNT.
8/20/09 14:47:06 WE SHOWED UP WITH OVER 200
8/20/09 14:47:08 PETITIONS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD
8/20/09 14:47:09 SAYING IN FAVOR.
8/20/09 14:47:11 AND WALTER SAT UP HERE AND SAID
8/20/09 14:47:13 HOW HE WAS IN FAVOR OF THAT
8/20/09 14:47:13 PETITION.
8/20/09 14:47:15 SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CHANGED
8/20/09 14:47:15 SINCE THEN.
8/20/09 14:47:18 AND I AM HAPPY TO DISCUSS THAT.
8/20/09 14:47:19 AS MARK ELUDED TO WE FOUND OUT
8/20/09 14:47:21 ON MONDAY NIGHT AT 10:00 THAT
8/20/09 14:47:22 WALTER WAS DESCRENDING AGAINST
8/20/09 14:47:23 US.
8/20/09 14:47:24 SO WE ARE HERE TO WORK WITH THE
8/20/09 14:47:25 NEIGHBORHOOD.
8/20/09 14:47:28 THIS IS THE BEST OPTION FOR THE
8/20/09 14:47:28 NEIGHBORS.
8/20/09 14:47:30 THEY WANT A MEXICAN RESTAURANT.
8/20/09 14:47:32 THEY WANT MARK AND DEE DEE TO
8/20/09 14:47:33 BE THE OPERATORS OF THAT
8/20/09 14:47:34 RESTAURANT.
8/20/09 14:47:35 THEY WANT IT UNTIL 3:00 IN THE
8/20/09 14:47:37 MORNING 7 DAYS A WEEK.
8/20/09 14:47:38 THEY RESPECT THAT THEY'RE GOING
8/20/09 14:47:40 TO CLOSE EARLY.
8/20/09 14:47:43 AND NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
8/20/09 14:47:46 THAT
8/20/09 14:47:49 3:00 LICENSE.
8/20/09 14:47:49 IF COUNCIL IS ONLY GOING TO
8/20/09 14:47:50 LISTEN TO THE THREE PERSONS IN
8/20/09 14:47:51 OPPOSITION, THEN I REQUEST THE
8/20/09 14:47:52 PETITIONER TO ASK COUNCIL TO
8/20/09 14:47:54 LET US HAVE AN EVENING VOTE
8/20/09 14:47:55 WHERE WE CAN GET EVERYBODY IN
8/20/09 14:47:56 THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN HERE TO
8/20/09 14:47:57 VOICE THEIR OPINION FOR WHO
8/20/09 14:47:59 WANTS TO HAVE THIS IN THEIR
8/20/09 14:47:59 NEIGHBORHOOD.
8/20/09 14:48:01 SO I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO
8/20/09 14:48:04 ONLY LISTEN TO WHAT IS HERE
8/20/09 14:48:05 WHEN YOU HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD
8/20/09 14:48:06 ASSOCIATION WHO SAID THEY WERE
8/20/09 14:48:10 IN FAIR
8/20/09 14:48:11 OF THAT.
8/20/09 14:48:12 >> YIRS.
8/20/09 14:48:12 --JERS.
8/20/09 14:48:13 --YES, SIR.
8/20/09 14:48:13 >> I DIDN'T FINISH.
8/20/09 14:48:14 I WANT HIM TO FINISH.
8/20/09 14:48:15 >> I WAS LOOKING FOR YOUR
8/20/09 14:48:15 TANGS.
8/20/09 14:48:16 >> HE WAS CALLED.
8/20/09 14:48:20 >>
8/20/09 14:48:23 WELL,
8/20/09 14:48:24 I THOUGHT
8/20/09 14:48:25 >> I APOLOGIZE.
8/20/09 14:48:28 >> AND THE FACT THAT HE IS A
8/20/09 14:48:29 FRONTMAN IS THE FURTHERREST
8/20/09 14:48:30 THING FROM THE TRUTH.
8/20/09 14:48:32 I HAVE THE ABILITY RIGHT NOW TO
8/20/09 14:48:33 RENT IT TO ANY PERSON THAT I
8/20/09 14:48:34 CHOOSE.
8/20/09 14:48:36 WE ARE CHOOSING TO RENT IT
8/20/09 14:48:37 BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THEY ARE
8/20/09 14:48:38 BETTER FIT FOR THE
8/20/09 14:48:39 NEIGHBORHOOD.
8/20/09 14:48:41 WE NEED RESTAURANTS IN THE
8/20/09 14:48:41 NEIGHBORHOOD.
8/20/09 14:48:44 AND AS A PROPERTY
8/20/09 14:48:46 OWNER I
8/20/09 14:48:47 CANNOT RESTRICT --AS A HIGHER
8/20/09 14:48:51 ZONING THAT I PAY
8/20/09 14:48:53 TOP DOLLAR
8/20/09 14:48:53 FOR.
8/20/09 14:48:56 THE PRODUCT IS BETTER
8/20/09 14:48:58 THAN
8/20/09 14:48:59 ANYBODY ELSE'S.
8/20/09 14:49:02 >> I'M
8/20/09 14:49:04 FINISHED.
8/20/09 14:49:05 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 14:49:06 THE ONE THING WE WERE HANDED A
8/20/09 14:49:08 PETITION BY SOMEBODY THAT CHOSE
8/20/09 14:49:11 19 FOLKS
8/20/09 14:49:12 IN OPPOSITION.
8/20/09 14:49:13 NOT THREE.
8/20/09 14:49:14 A PETITION SUPPORTERS.
8/20/09 14:49:17 I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THESE
8/20/09 14:49:17 ARE.
8/20/09 14:49:20 IT LOOKS ABOUT
8/20/09 14:49:22 15 OR 20.
8/20/09 14:49:23 THE NUMBER ONE.
8/20/09 14:49:23 NUMBER TWO.
8/20/09 14:49:25 HAVE YOU --HAVE YOU HAD A
8/20/09 14:49:27 CHANCE TO LOOK AT CLOSING
8/20/09 14:49:27 TIMES?
8/20/09 14:49:29 >> AND I SAW IT THROUGH THERE.
8/20/09 14:49:30 SOME ARE ACCURATE.
8/20/09 14:49:31 SOME ARE INACCURATE.
8/20/09 14:49:32 I WOULD SAY THAT SOME OF THOSE
8/20/09 14:49:33 --
8/20/09 14:49:33 >> YOU'RE ANSWERING A QUESTION
8/20/09 14:49:35 I DID NT ASK YET.
8/20/09 14:49:37 >> GO AHEAD.
8/20/09 14:49:37 I'M SORRY.
8/20/09 14:49:40 >> AND THE BOTTOM
8/20/09 14:49:42 LINE IS THAT
8/20/09 14:49:43 YES, YOU HAVE COMPETITION IN
8/20/09 14:49:46 THE FORM OF Mc
8/20/09 14:49:48 DENTON'S OR
8/20/09 14:49:50 DUBLIN --
8/20/09 14:49:51 >> YES, SIR.
8/20/09 14:49:54 >> AND SO YOUR PLACE IS ALREADY
8/20/09 14:49:55 OPEN UNTIL 2 THE.
8/20/09 14:49:57 AND DUBLIN IS OPEN UNTIL 3:00.
8/20/09 14:49:58 THOSE THINGS WERE GRANDFATHERED
8/20/09 14:49:59 IN YEARS AND YEARS AGO LONG
8/20/09 14:50:02 BEFORE I WAS HERE.
8/20/09 14:50:04 AND UP THE STREET THE RACK AND
8/20/09 14:50:07 THE HIGH
8/20/09 14:50:08 PARKA FAYE.
8/20/09 14:50:10 AND THAT IS AIR DIFFERENT
8/20/09 14:50:10 ANIMAL.
8/20/09 14:50:12 NOW UP AND DOWN HOWARD YOU DO
8/20/09 14:50:13 HAVE RESTAURANTS.
8/20/09 14:50:16 AND I ASSUME THIS IS GOING TO
8/20/09 14:50:19 BE
8/20/09 14:50:21 A RESTAURANT.
8/20/09 14:50:21 BURNS.
8/20/09 14:50:22 AND THE --
8/20/09 14:50:23 >> THE LIME IS STILL IN
8/20/09 14:50:25 BUSINESS TWO YEARS LATER.
8/20/09 14:50:27 OKAY, EVEN THOUGH THEY SAID THE
8/20/09 14:50:28 SAME THING.
8/20/09 14:50:28 THEY SAID WE CAN'T MAKE IT
8/20/09 14:50:30 UNLESS WE GET BETTER HOURS.
8/20/09 14:50:32 WE GAVE THEM REASONABLE HOURS
8/20/09 14:50:32 UNTIL MIDNIGHT.
8/20/09 14:50:35 AND THEY ARE STILL
8/20/09 14:50:38 IN
8/20/09 14:50:42 BUSINESS.
8/20/09 14:50:43 AND DAILEY'DS.
8/20/09 14:50:44 AND 717.
8/20/09 14:50:46 THE O SAY SIS.
8/20/09 14:50:47 THEY ALL CLOSE AROUND MIDNIGHT
8/20/09 14:50:50 OR
8/20/09 14:50:53 SOMETHING LIKE
8/20/09 14:50:53 THAT.
8/20/09 14:50:57 WE HAD A
8/20/09 14:50:57 PROBLEM.
8/20/09 14:50:58 MY QUESTION TO YOU HAVE YOU HAD
8/20/09 14:51:01 A CHANCE TO
8/20/09 14:51:04 LOOK AT
8/20/09 14:51:08 THESE.
8/20/09 14:51:09 AN AGREEMENT THAT THERE IS A
8/20/09 14:51:10 SUCCESSFUL RESTAURANT THAT
8/20/09 14:51:12 CLOSE AT MIDNIGHT.
8/20/09 14:51:14 I WILL NOT DIVULGE THE
8/20/09 14:51:15 INFORMATION.
8/20/09 14:51:15 THEY ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL.
8/20/09 14:51:17 >> HOW MANY YEARS HAS BELLA'S
8/20/09 14:51:18 BEEN IN BUSINESS?
8/20/09 14:51:19 >> THERE ARE A FEW.
8/20/09 14:51:20 BUT IF YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER
8/20/09 14:51:22 THE QUESTION, I WILL ANSWER IT
8/20/09 14:51:22 FOR YOU.
8/20/09 14:51:24 >> I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON OUR
8/20/09 14:51:24 DEFINITION OF SUCCESS.
8/20/09 14:51:26 >> WHEN YOU ARE LOSING MONEY, I
8/20/09 14:51:27 DON'T THINK THAT IS SUCCESSFUL
8/20/09 14:51:30 TO KEEP YOUR
8/20/09 14:51:32 DOORS OPEN.
8/20/09 14:51:33 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 14:51:34 I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.
8/20/09 14:51:35 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 14:51:38 >> RIGHT NOW THE
8/20/09 14:51:39 PROPERTY IS
8/20/09 14:51:39 ZONED.
8/20/09 14:51:41 IT'S A RESTAURANT WITH PACKAGED
8/20/09 14:51:41 SALES.
8/20/09 14:51:41 IS THAT RIGHT?
8/20/09 14:51:43 >> IT IS A RESTAURANT.
8/20/09 14:51:45 IT IS A 2 COP.
8/20/09 14:51:46 WE HAVE BEEN KEEPING THE ZONING
8/20/09 14:51:47 ALIVE.
8/20/09 14:51:50 BUT WE CLOSED
8/20/09 14:51:51 BACK IN JANUARY.
8/20/09 14:51:55 YOU COULD HAVE A
8/20/09 14:51:58 RESTAURANT
8/20/09 14:52:01 RIGHT
8/20/09 14:52:02 NOW.
8/20/09 14:52:03 NO ONE WANTS TO RENT --
8/20/09 14:52:04 >> I HEARD YOU.
8/20/09 14:52:06 I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM WHAT
8/20/09 14:52:09 THE
8/20/09 14:52:12 CURRENT
8/20/09 14:52:13 ZONING IS.
8/20/09 14:52:14 >> CURRENTLY.
8/20/09 14:52:17 >> ANY OTHER QUESTION?
8/20/09 14:52:17 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 14:52:17 >> SECOND.
8/20/09 14:52:21 >>
8/20/09 14:52:24 ALL IN
8/20/09 14:52:24 FAVOR.
8/20/09 14:52:26 COULD I ASK A QUESTION FROM MY
8/20/09 14:52:27 FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS BECAUSE I
8/20/09 14:52:29 WAS NOT HERE.
8/20/09 14:52:32 GLEN, YOU AND CHARLIE
8/20/09 14:52:34 AND LINDA
8/20/09 14:52:34 WERE.
8/20/09 14:52:35 DISWL I --
8/20/09 14:52:38 >> I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR
8/20/09 14:52:39 YOUR
8/20/09 14:52:39 EXPERIENCE --
8/20/09 14:52:42 >> AND I CAN SPEAK
8/20/09 14:52:43 TO YOU.
8/20/09 14:52:45 >> BECAUSE THAT IS SORT OF --
8/20/09 14:52:46 WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
8/20/09 14:52:48 THEY WERE A LITTLE BIT ON THE
8/20/09 14:52:49 TIPPING POINT HERE.
8/20/09 14:52:51 YOU KNOW, I DRIVE BY Mc
8/20/09 14:52:52 DENTON'S LATE IN THE EVENING.
8/20/09 14:52:55 AND I SEE A LOT OF THINGS OUT
8/20/09 14:52:56 OF CONTROL.
8/20/09 14:52:59 BUT WE CAN'T ADDRESS THAT
8/20/09 14:53:00 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALREADY
8/20/09 14:53:02 OUT OF THE BARN.
8/20/09 14:53:04 AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS
8/20/09 14:53:05 UP AND DOWN THOSE STREETS, AND
8/20/09 14:53:07 IT FLOWS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
8/20/09 14:53:08 AND IT'S NOT --
8/20/09 14:53:11 >> AND I THINK WE
8/20/09 14:53:13 HAVE SCHISM
8/20/09 14:53:15 ISSUES WHERE ALL OF A SUDDEN
8/20/09 14:53:16 EVERYBODY SAID THIS SAY GREAT
8/20/09 14:53:17 IDEA.
8/20/09 14:53:20 WE NEED TO MAKE IT TH
8/20/09 14:53:24 THE
8/20/09 14:53:27 ENTERTAINMENT EXHIBIT.
8/20/09 14:53:27 YOU KNOW WHAT?
8/20/09 14:53:28 >> AND OKAY.
8/20/09 14:53:32 >> SAY WHAT YOU WANT AND I'LL
8/20/09 14:53:33 DISAGREE WITH IT.
8/20/09 14:53:35 AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT GENERAL
8/20/09 14:53:37 POLICY MATTERS AS RELATED TO
8/20/09 14:53:37 OUR EXPERIENCE.
8/20/09 14:53:40 >> AND OBVIOUSLY
8/20/09 14:53:42 YOUR ELECTED
8/20/09 14:53:43 OFFICIALS.
8/20/09 14:53:45 AND THE ONLY THING I DO WANT TO
8/20/09 14:53:46 REMIND COUNCIL IS YOUR BASIS
8/20/09 14:53:49 FOR DENIAL IS BASED UPON
8/20/09 14:53:51 EVIDENCE THAT YOU TESTIFY OF
8/20/09 14:53:52 YOURSELF RATHER THAN EVIDENCE
8/20/09 14:53:54 THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU AT
8/20/09 14:53:54 THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
8/20/09 14:53:56 THEN IT IS UNLIKELY THAT A
8/20/09 14:53:57 COURT IS GOING TO HOLD THAT.
8/20/09 14:53:59 YOU NEED TO BASE YOUR --I
8/20/09 14:54:01 GUESS I NEED TO REMIND YOU THAT
8/20/09 14:54:04 I NEED TO BASE YOUR APPROVAL
8/20/09 14:54:06 OR
8/20/09 14:54:08 YOUR DENIAL BASED UPON EVIDENCE
8/20/09 14:54:11 TO YOU AT
8/20/09 14:54:12 THE HEARING RATHER
8/20/09 14:54:13 THAN EVIDENCE PRESENTED.
8/20/09 14:54:14 >> THAT'S MY ONLY POINT.
8/20/09 14:54:15 >> AND I WOULD SUGGEST PERHAPS
8/20/09 14:54:16 BECAUSE MARTY'S HAD US REOPEN
8/20/09 14:54:18 THE PUBLIC HEARING IN THIS
8/20/09 14:54:18 REGARD.
8/20/09 14:54:20 IS TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WITH
8/20/09 14:54:23 THE PUBLIC HEARING
8/20/09 14:54:29 STILL
8/20/09 14:54:32 OPEN
8/20/09 14:54:35 AND E THEN MR.
8/20/09 14:54:36 OR ADVERTISE
8/20/09 14:54:36 COULD REBUT.
8/20/09 14:54:37 >> IF I COULD ADDRESS THAT.
8/20/09 14:54:40 >>
8/20/09 14:54:42 WAIT.
8/20/09 14:54:45 >> YES,
8/20/09 14:54:47 SIR.
8/20/09 14:54:49 I BELIEVE HE SHOULD BE ENTITLED
8/20/09 14:54:50 TO LISTEN TO THE THREE COUNCIL
8/20/09 14:54:51 MEMBERS I MENTIONED.
8/20/09 14:54:52 >> IN MY OPINION I AM NOT
8/20/09 14:54:55 RELATING THE CITY TO THE SEW
8/20/09 14:54:57 HO
8/20/09 14:54:59 DISTRICT OR RELATING TO
8/20/09 14:55:00 CHANNELSIDE OR RELATING THE
8/20/09 14:55:01 CITY TO BAYWALK.
8/20/09 14:55:02 WE ALL HAVE EXPERIENCED THE
8/20/09 14:55:05 SAME PROBLEMS
8/20/09 14:55:08 OF DIFFERENT
8/20/09 14:55:09 SORTS.
8/20/09 14:55:10 IF YOU GO CHECK THE RECORD WHEN
8/20/09 14:55:12 THE CITY WAS THE ONLY LIFE THAT
8/20/09 14:55:14 WAS --THE ONLY LIFE WAS TUMBLE
8/20/09 14:55:18 WEEDS AND CRIME WAS AN
8/20/09 14:55:19 EXTREMELY HIGH.
8/20/09 14:55:22 AND PROPERTY VALUES WERE
8/20/09 14:55:24 EXTREMELY LOW.
8/20/09 14:55:25 THE ARTISTS WERE THE FIRST ONES
8/20/09 14:55:28 TO
8/20/09 14:55:31 BRING
8/20/09 14:55:34 BACK.
8/20/09 14:55:37 THEY HAD THE NEXT PROPERTY DID
8/20/09 14:55:38 THE SAME THING AND THE NEXT ONE
8/20/09 14:55:41 AND
8/20/09 14:55:44 THE NEXT ONE.
8/20/09 14:55:45 IT IS CHANGING AGAIN.
8/20/09 14:55:47 IF MY MIND SERVES ME CORRECT,
8/20/09 14:55:50 CHARLIE MY RAN --MIRANDA NEVER
8/20/09 14:55:53 VOTED FOR ANYTHING
8/20/09 14:55:55 OUTSIDE
8/20/09 14:55:58 SEVENTH
8/20/09 14:56:00 AVENUE.
8/20/09 14:56:01 I LOST A LOT OF MY FRIENDS FOR
8/20/09 14:56:01 THAT.
8/20/09 14:56:03 ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS GOT
8/20/09 14:56:04 BLAMED SAYING I HAD CONTROL
8/20/09 14:56:06 OVER ME AND HE GOT BLAMED BY
8/20/09 14:56:08 HIS FRIENDS IN THE FISH
8/20/09 14:56:08 BUSINESS.
8/20/09 14:56:10 AND THEY NEVER BOUGHT FISH FROM
8/20/09 14:56:10 HIM AGAIN.
8/20/09 14:56:11 IT WASN'T HIM.
8/20/09 14:56:12 IT WAS MY VOTE.
8/20/09 14:56:12 MY RIGHT.
8/20/09 14:56:15 AND I DON'T GO AROUND
8/20/09 14:56:16 ASKING
8/20/09 14:56:16 QUESTIONS.
8/20/09 14:56:17 I SHOULD VOTE.
8/20/09 14:56:20 SO I THE VOTE
8/20/09 14:56:23 FOR
8/20/09 14:56:26 SOME
8/20/09 14:56:30 RESTAURANTS
8/20/09 14:56:32 OUTSIDE OF THE MAIN
8/20/09 14:56:33 CORRIDOR.
8/20/09 14:56:33 EVERYTHING IS RELEVANT.
8/20/09 14:56:35 AND AT THE SAME TIME, NONE OF
8/20/09 14:56:36 IT MATTERS BECAUSE EVERYTHING
8/20/09 14:56:38 IS IN A DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD
8/20/09 14:56:40 IN A DIFFERENT SETTING.
8/20/09 14:56:42 I COULD ALSO SAY WE ALSO
8/20/09 14:56:43 CHANGED THE LAW.
8/20/09 14:56:45 IT USED TO BE EVERY
8/20/09 14:56:47 NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE
8/20/09 14:56:48 PROXIMITY OF HOUSES AND
8/20/09 14:56:49 CONSTRUCTION AND RESTAURANTS
8/20/09 14:56:51 AND BARS, WE USED TO SAY HEY,
8/20/09 14:56:53 YOU CLOSE AT 10:30 OR 11:00 OR
8/20/09 14:56:54 12:00.
8/20/09 14:56:57 THEN WE CHANGED THAT ABOUT A
8/20/09 14:56:58 YEAR AGO.
8/20/09 14:56:59 THIS IS WHAT IS BRING ON THIS
8/20/09 14:57:02 STRESS TO THIS
8/20/09 14:57:03 GOVERNMENT
8/20/09 14:57:03 TODAY.
8/20/09 14:57:04 SO ON OCTOBER 17TH OR WHATEVER
8/20/09 14:57:06 THE DATE WAS, WE'RE HAVING AN
8/20/09 14:57:09 ALCOHOL BEVERAGE --I BELIEVE
8/20/09 14:57:10 --I SECONDED IT.
8/20/09 14:57:13 BECAUSE THESE THINGS HAVE TO
8/20/09 14:57:15 BE
8/20/09 14:57:17 IRONED OUT.
8/20/09 14:57:20 AND
8/20/09 14:57:23 YOU'RE GOING TO IT'S NOT
8/20/09 14:57:23 ABOUT CUTTING HEADS.
8/20/09 14:57:26 IT'S ABOUT IS IT RIGHT OR IS IT
8/20/09 14:57:26 WRONG?
8/20/09 14:57:29 AND I HAVE EATEN MANY TIMES.
8/20/09 14:57:32 HOWEVER, THAT BEING
8/20/09 14:57:33 SAID THIS
8/20/09 14:57:35 NOT ABOUT CAPABILITIES OR HIS
8/20/09 14:57:38 FAME FOR HIS FOOD
8/20/09 14:57:38 OR ANYTHING
8/20/09 14:57:39 ELSE.
8/20/09 14:57:40 THIS IS ABOUT A ZONING ON A
8/20/09 14:57:42 BUILDING THAT I MENTIONED
8/20/09 14:57:45 EARLIER TODAY, AND I MENTIONED
8/20/09 14:57:48 IT MONTHS AGO THAT WE SHOULD
8/20/09 14:57:49 CHANGE --ASK THE LEGISLATURE
8/20/09 14:57:51 TO CHANGE THAT SO WHEN THE
8/20/09 14:57:54 BUILDING CLOSES --CLOSES THAT
8/20/09 14:57:54 RISES UP.
8/20/09 14:57:56 SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT
8/20/09 14:57:57 UNDER CONSTANT PRESSURE OF
8/20/09 14:57:58 WHAT'S COMING IN NEXT.
8/20/09 14:57:59 THAT WE BROUGHT UP.
8/20/09 14:58:01 WHETHER IT HAPPENS OR NOT, EVEN
8/20/09 14:58:03 IF WE PASS IT, IS UP TO THE
8/20/09 14:58:04 LEGISLATURE TO MAKE AN
8/20/09 14:58:05 EXCEPTION FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA
8/20/09 14:58:08 WHICH IS NOT
8/20/09 14:58:11 VERY EASILY
8/20/09 14:58:17 DONE.
8/20/09 14:58:19 I'M EASE EXPRESSING ALL OF THE
8/20/09 14:58:20 THINGS I HEARD.
8/20/09 14:58:22 IT PUTS ONE NEIGHBOR LIVING
8/20/09 14:58:23 NEXT TO ANOTHER NEIGHBOR LIVING
8/20/09 14:58:25 ON THE SAME STREET RIGHT NO
8/20/09 14:58:26 EACH OTHER.
8/20/09 14:58:27 THIS IS WHEY DON'T WANT TO SEE.
8/20/09 14:58:29 BUT I AM HERE TAKING TESTIMONY
8/20/09 14:58:30 OF WHAT THE PRESENTATIONS ARE
8/20/09 14:58:31 AND THE VOTE COMES LATER.
8/20/09 14:58:32 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 14:58:33 >> YES, SIR.
8/20/09 14:58:34 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO
8/20/09 14:58:37 ADDRESS THE CONCERNS AND ALSO
8/20/09 14:58:39 TO ADD ON TO WHAT --
8/20/09 14:58:41 >> IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, WHAT
8/20/09 14:58:44 YOU DO HAVE BEFORE YOU ARE THE
8/20/09 14:58:44 GENERAL STANDARDS.
8/20/09 14:58:47 AND I'LL REFER YOU TO PAGE
8/20/09 14:58:50 THREE UNDER SECTION 27,
8/20/09 14:58:51 269.
8/20/09 14:58:52 AND IT SAYS THAT THE FOLLOWING
8/20/09 14:58:54 GENERAL STANDARDS SHALL BE MET
8/20/09 14:58:56 BY ALL APPLICANTS FOR SPECIAL
8/20/09 14:58:57 USE PERMITS.
8/20/09 14:58:59 IT LISTS THE CRY TIER YARKS
8/20/09 14:58:59 FIVE OF THEM.
8/20/09 14:59:01 AND YOU HAVE HEARD TESTIMONY
8/20/09 14:59:01 TODAY.
8/20/09 14:59:02 YOU COULD WEIGH THE TESTIMONY,
8/20/09 14:59:04 AND MY SUGGESTION IS YOU APPLY
8/20/09 14:59:05 THOSE STANDARDS AGAINST WHAT
8/20/09 14:59:06 YOU HEARD AND MAKE A
8/20/09 14:59:08 DETERMINATION WHEN YOU MAKE
8/20/09 14:59:08 YOUR MOTION.
8/20/09 14:59:11 COUNCIL, YOU HAVE ALSO GIVEN
8/20/09 14:59:15 THE OPPORTUNITY SET FORTH TO
8/20/09 14:59:16 HAVE CERTAIN PROTECTIONS
8/20/09 14:59:18 WRITTEN INTO THE CODE.
8/20/09 14:59:18 CERTAIN BUFFERS.
8/20/09 14:59:20 IN ORDER FOR THIS PETITIONER
8/20/09 14:59:22 AND OTHER PETITIONERS TO COME
8/20/09 14:59:24 BEFORE YOU TO HAVE THEIR
8/20/09 14:59:27 BUSINESS, THEY ASK FOR SPECIFIC
8/20/09 14:59:27 WAIVERS.
8/20/09 14:59:28 THAT IS A PRIVILEGE GRANTED TO
8/20/09 14:59:31 THEM BY THE CITY COUNCIL BASED
8/20/09 14:59:32 ON THE TESTIMONY OF WHETHER OR
8/20/09 14:59:35 NOT IT MEETS THE GENERAL
8/20/09 14:59:35 STANDARDS.
8/20/09 14:59:36 SO MY SUGGESTION IS TO TAKE THE
8/20/09 14:59:38 INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE
8/20/09 14:59:40 BEFORE YOU AND APPLY IT AND
8/20/09 14:59:43 COME TO THE DETERMINATION BASED
8/20/09 14:59:46 ON THE SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN
8/20/09 14:59:48 THIS CASE.
8/20/09 14:59:49 >> COUNCILMAN --COUNCILWOMAN
8/20/09 14:59:49 MOORE.
8/20/09 14:59:51 >> BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE HEARD,
8/20/09 14:59:54 WE'LL DISCUSS ON A
8/20/09 14:59:56 DIFFERENT
8/20/09 14:59:56 DAY.
8/20/09 14:59:57 >>> PLEASE STAND BY FOR A
8/20/09 14:59:58 CHANGE IN CAPTIONERS.

8/20/09 15:01:33 >>> NOW WE ARE
8/20/09 15:01:34 TALKING ABOUT
8/20/09 15:01:36 SOHO WHICH IS SOME OF THE
8/20/09 15:01:38 NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THE HIGHEST
8/20/09 15:01:39 PROPERTY TAXES IN THE CITY AND
8/20/09 15:01:42 WE HAVE A BAR SCENE DEVELOPING
8/20/09 15:01:43 THAT CERTAINLY ISN'T GOING TO
8/20/09 15:01:45 HELP THE PROPERTY VALUE.
8/20/09 15:01:47 WE HAVE HEARD FROM ALL OF THE
8/20/09 15:01:50 NEIGHBORS THAT THIS IS NOT
8/20/09 15:01:52 THE
8/20/09 15:01:54 KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY
8/20/09 15:01:56 BUILDING THAT THEY ARE LOOKING
8/20/09 15:01:59 FOR, SO I DON'T KNOW, DID
8/20/09 15:02:01 SOMEONE START MAKING THAT?
8/20/09 15:02:03 >> WE HAVEN'T CLOSED THE PUBLIC
8/20/09 15:02:03 HEARING?
8/20/09 15:02:05 >> NO, A MOTION ON THE FLOOR
8/20/09 15:02:08 WAS MADE TO CLOSE
8/20/09 15:02:11 AND, UM,
8/20/09 15:02:14 COUNCILMAN JODY DINGFELDER HAD
8/20/09 15:02:14 A QUESTION.
8/20/09 15:02:17 >> SORRY, I WALKED OUT
8/20/09 15:02:19 FOR A
8/20/09 15:02:19 MINUTE.
8/20/09 15:02:22 >> SINCE WE HAVE TESTIFIED A
8/20/09 15:02:25 LITTLE BIT, MR. ORTIZ MAY
8/20/09 15:02:26 HAVE
8/20/09 15:02:28 THE OPPORTUNITY, I'M JUST
8/20/09 15:02:30 SAYING MAKE SURE THAT THE
8/20/09 15:02:31 RECORD IS PURE.
8/20/09 15:02:34 >> THE ISSUE IS THAT WE HAVE
8/20/09 15:02:35 A
8/20/09 15:02:36 DISCUSSION AMONG OURSELVES.
8/20/09 15:02:38 WE HAVE NOT GONE BACK TO THE
8/20/09 15:02:38 FLOOR.
8/20/09 15:02:40 EVERY TIME WE HAVE A
8/20/09 15:02:43 DISCUSSION, WE NEED TO GO BACK
8/20/09 15:02:45 TO THE FLOOR AND OPEN IT.
8/20/09 15:02:48 I HAVE A PROBLEM
8/20/09 15:02:49 WITH THAT
8/20/09 15:02:51 BECAUSE ONCE WE HAVE A
8/20/09 15:02:52 DISCUSSION AND WE DON'T INVOLVE
8/20/09 15:02:55 THE PUBLIC, WE DON'T HAVE TO
8/20/09 15:02:58 COME BACK AND RE-CAN'T WHAT WE
8/20/09 15:03:00 HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING.
8/20/09 15:03:01 WE NEED TO SETTLE THAT.
8/20/09 15:03:04 >> EXCUSE ME, I WALKED OUT AND
8/20/09 15:03:06 DIDN'T REALIZE THE PUBLIC
8/20/09 15:03:07 HEARING WASN'T CLOSE, SO I'M
8/20/09 15:03:10 READY TO VOTE
8/20/09 15:03:12 ON THAT ONE.
8/20/09 15:03:15 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I DO AGREE
8/20/09 15:03:18 THAT YOU WANT TO GET ALL OF
8/20/09 15:03:20 OUR
8/20/09 15:03:21 QUESTIONS ANSWERED BEFORE WE
8/20/09 15:03:24 CLOSE THE HEARINGS AND TO
8/20/09 15:03:25 GIVE
8/20/09 15:03:28 THE PETITIONNER THE LAST
8/20/09 15:03:29 WORD.
8/20/09 15:03:31 ONCE COUNCIL STARTS DEVILING
8/20/09 15:03:33 INTO AREAS THAT --DELVING INTO
8/20/09 15:03:36 AREAS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE
8/20/09 15:03:37 RELEVANT, OR TESTIFY TO WHAT
8/20/09 15:03:40 MAY NOT BE A CONCERN,
8/20/09 15:03:42 OR
8/20/09 15:03:43 ADDITION EVIDENCE THAT MIGHT
8/20/09 15:03:46 HAVE BEEN FROM
8/20/09 15:03:47 A PERSONAL
8/20/09 15:03:49 EXPERIENCE, THAT RAISES
8/20/09 15:03:49 CONCERNS.
8/20/09 15:03:51 IT IS ALWAYS IN THE BEST
8/20/09 15:03:53 INTEREST FROM A LEGAL
8/20/09 15:03:56 STANDPOINT TO REOPEN THE
8/20/09 15:03:57 FLOOR.
8/20/09 15:04:00 THAT BEING SAID, I UNDERSTAND
8/20/09 15:04:03 THAT MR. OTIZ IS
8/20/09 15:04:04 REQUESTING A
8/20/09 15:04:04 CONTINUANCE.
8/20/09 15:04:05 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
8/20/09 15:04:08 >> BEFORE HE DOES, I WANT
8/20/09 15:04:09 HIM
8/20/09 15:04:11 TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
8/20/09 15:04:12 RESPOND TO ANYTHING WE HAVE
8/20/09 15:04:14 SAID SO THAT ISSUE WILL BE
8/20/09 15:04:14 CLEAR.
8/20/09 15:04:17 >> THAT WILL
8/20/09 15:04:19 BE FINE.
8/20/09 15:04:21 >> MR. CHAIRMAN I WAS THE ONE
8/20/09 15:04:24 TO OPEN THE PANDORA'S BOX,
8/20/09 15:04:25 AND
8/20/09 15:04:27 I THINK HE SHOULD BE THE ONE TO
8/20/09 15:04:28 HAVE THE LAST WORD.
8/20/09 15:04:31 >> AT SOME POINT,
8/20/09 15:04:32 MR. SHELBY,
8/20/09 15:04:35 WE WILL NEVER GET OUT OF ANY OF
8/20/09 15:04:37 THESE MEETINGS AND WE START
8/20/09 15:04:39 TALKING ABOUT THE PERSONAL
8/20/09 15:04:39 THINGS.
8/20/09 15:04:42 YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT, EVEN
8/20/09 15:04:44 WITH THE SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE,
8/20/09 15:04:46 OUR EXPERIENCE IS A PART OF
8/20/09 15:04:46 THAT.
8/20/09 15:04:48 WE MAY NOT GET SPECIFIC.
8/20/09 15:04:50 YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND 30 YEARS.
8/20/09 15:04:53 I HAVE BEEN
8/20/09 15:04:54 AROUND 12.
8/20/09 15:04:57 LINDA HAS BEEN AROUND 12.
8/20/09 15:04:59 YOU ARE USING THE BEST PRACTICE
8/20/09 15:05:01 BASED ON THE VIEWS SINCE YOU
8/20/09 15:05:01 HAVE BEEN HERE.
8/20/09 15:05:04 YOU CAN'T SAY THAT I CAN'T USE
8/20/09 15:05:04 MY EXPERIENCE.
8/20/09 15:05:06 I FIND THAT DIFFICULT.
8/20/09 15:05:09 WE WILL HAVE IN THESE MEETINGS
8/20/09 15:05:09 FOREVER.
8/20/09 15:05:10 >> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE
8/20/09 15:05:10 SAYING.
8/20/09 15:05:13 >> I AM SAYING THAT ONCE
8/20/09 15:05:13 WE
8/20/09 15:05:16 START DELIBERATING AND WE DON'T
8/20/09 15:05:19 TAKE ANYMORE PUBLIC TESTIMONY,
8/20/09 15:05:21 WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO TAKE IT
8/20/09 15:05:24 BACK UP FOR THE PETITIONER
8/20/09 15:05:24 TO
8/20/09 15:05:25 HAVE THE LAST WORD.
8/20/09 15:05:28 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE LAST
8/20/09 15:05:31 WORD BECAUSE WE GET TO
8/20/09 15:05:31 VOTE.
8/20/09 15:05:32 60 SECONDS.
8/20/09 15:05:33 >> WITH REGARD TO THE CITY, I
8/20/09 15:05:36 HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 15
8/20/09 15:05:36 YEARS.
8/20/09 15:05:38 I HAVE WATCH THE CITY IMPLODE.
8/20/09 15:05:41 I HAVE HAD THE CHANCE TO BE
8/20/09 15:05:44 IN
8/20/09 15:05:45 THE EBOR CITY.
8/20/09 15:05:46 MY PARTNER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY
8/20/09 15:05:49 TO GO THERE, BUT THANK GOODNESS
8/20/09 15:05:50 HE DIDN'T GO THERE.
8/20/09 15:05:51 THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE
8/20/09 15:05:53 BUSINESSES AND THE COMMUNITY
8/20/09 15:05:54 DID NOT WORK TOGETHER.
8/20/09 15:05:57 WE HAD A PARKING PROBLEM.
8/20/09 15:06:00 WE GOT TOGETHER AND WE SOLVED
8/20/09 15:06:03 IT WITH THE HELP OF
8/20/09 15:06:03 COUNCIL.
8/20/09 15:06:04 YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
8/20/09 15:06:06 IT SHOULDN'T BE A NEIGHBOR
8/20/09 15:06:08 VERSUS A GNASH.
8/20/09 15:06:09 THE COMMUNITY SHOULD COME
8/20/09 15:06:12 TOGETHER AS ONE AND WE ARE
8/20/09 15:06:13 NOT
8/20/09 15:06:13 DOING IT.
8/20/09 15:06:16 I SIT IN
8/20/09 15:06:19 THESE
8/20/09 15:06:20 MEETINGS
8/20/09 15:06:20 CONTINUOUSLY.
8/20/09 15:06:23 IT'S GOING TO
8/20/09 15:06:23 CONTINUE TO
8/20/09 15:06:23 HAPPEN.
8/20/09 15:06:26 IT'S ONE OF THE BEST PLACES TO
8/20/09 15:06:29 LIVE WHERE THE PROPERTY VALUES
8/20/09 15:06:29 ARE THE HIGHEST.
8/20/09 15:06:32 ARE WE GOING
8/20/09 15:06:33 TO SQUANDER THAT
8/20/09 15:06:36 OPPORTUNITY OR MAKE IT THE
8/20/09 15:06:36 BEST?
8/20/09 15:06:39 I ASK FOR
8/20/09 15:06:44 A CONTINUANCE FOR
8/20/09 15:06:47 WHATEVER DATE THE AVAILABLE.
8/20/09 15:06:50 >> MAY I INQUIRE ON THE
8/20/09 15:06:51 PURPOSE
8/20/09 15:06:52 OF THE CONTINUANCE?
8/20/09 15:06:55 >> I WANT TO
8/20/09 15:06:57 SEEK LEGAL COUNCIL
8/20/09 15:07:00 AND SEEK INFORMATION FROM THE
8/20/09 15:07:00 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
8/20/09 15:07:03 >> I MAY WITHDRAW IT AND NEVER
8/20/09 15:07:03 COME BACK.
8/20/09 15:07:05 >> WELL, THE QUESTION IS THAT
8/20/09 15:07:07 YOU ARE QUESTIONING AND I THINK
8/20/09 15:07:09 LEGAL MAY WANT TO SPEAK TO
8/20/09 15:07:09 THAT.
8/20/09 15:07:12 I GUESS IT'S A PRIVILEGE
8/20/09 15:07:13 AND
8/20/09 15:07:16 NOT A RIGHT, DO YOU WANT TO
8/20/09 15:07:17 SPEAK TO THE HEAR SOMETHING.
8/20/09 15:07:19 >> TODAY WAS HIS SCHEDULE.
8/20/09 15:07:22 TODAY WAS THE
8/20/09 15:07:25 TIME TO SHOW THE
8/20/09 15:07:25 EVIDENCE.
8/20/09 15:07:28 HE IS REQUESTING
8/20/09 15:07:30 TO SPEAK WITH
8/20/09 15:07:31 LEGAL COUNCIL.
8/20/09 15:07:34 IT IS
8/20/09 15:07:40 IN YOUR DECISION WHAT YOU
8/20/09 15:07:41 WANT TO DO.
8/20/09 15:07:43 >> IF I HAD HEARD SOMETHING
8/20/09 15:07:45 ALONG THE LINES THAT I WANT TO
8/20/09 15:07:47 GET TOGETHER WITH THE FOLKS WHO
8/20/09 15:07:50 ARE OPPOSED TO IT TO FIND SOME
8/20/09 15:07:52 REASONABLE HOURS THAT WELCOMED
8/20/09 15:07:54 COMPROMISE ON, THEN YEAH, THAT
8/20/09 15:07:54 WOULD BE GREAT.
8/20/09 15:07:57 JUST TO SIT HERE AND SAY I NEED
8/20/09 15:07:58 LEGAL COUNCIL.
8/20/09 15:08:00 WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT?
8/20/09 15:08:02 THIS THING'S BEEN PENDING FOR A
8/20/09 15:08:04 LONG TIME AND I'M SURE YOU HAVE
8/20/09 15:08:06 PLENTY OF LEGAL COUNCIL THAT
8/20/09 15:08:08 YOU USE FOR EVERY ASPECT OF
8/20/09 15:08:09 YOUR BUSINESS.
8/20/09 15:08:10 THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A GOOD
8/20/09 15:08:12 THING AND THE OTHER THING IS
8/20/09 15:08:15 THAT I NEED TO GATHER UP ALL OF
8/20/09 15:08:17 THE FORCES ON MY SIDE, I MEAN,
8/20/09 15:08:20 IS THAT WHAT WE WANT,
8/20/09 15:08:21 MR.
8/20/09 15:08:23 CHAIRMAN SO EVERYONE CAN GATHER
8/20/09 15:08:25 UP THEIR FORCES AND HE CAN
8/20/09 15:08:27 GATHER UP HIS FORCES AND WE'LL
8/20/09 15:08:30 BE HERE FOR WHO KNOWS HOW
8/20/09 15:08:31 LONG.
8/20/09 15:08:32 >> SIR.
8/20/09 15:08:32 SIR.
8/20/09 15:08:34 >> YOUR TURN IS UP.
8/20/09 15:08:37 >> THIS IS COUNCIL DELIBERATION
8/20/09 15:08:37 NOW.
8/20/09 15:08:40 >> CAN I MOVE
8/20/09 15:08:42 TO CLOSE THE
8/20/09 15:08:42 PUBLIC HEARING?
8/20/09 15:08:44 >> CONTINUE IT WHILE IT'S OPEN?
8/20/09 15:08:45 >> YEAH.
8/20/09 15:08:48 >> I MOVE TO DENY
8/20/09 15:08:49 THE
8/20/09 15:08:51 CONTINUANCE THIS HAS ALREADY
8/20/09 15:08:52 BEEN DEJA VU.
8/20/09 15:08:54 I THINK YOU REMOVED YOUR
8/20/09 15:08:56 PETITION I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS
8/20/09 15:08:57 AFTER THE FIRST READING.
8/20/09 15:08:58 >> NO.
8/20/09 15:08:59 >> THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR
8/20/09 15:09:02 QUITE SOME TIME AND YOU CAME
8/20/09 15:09:05 BACK, BUT YOU WERE REQUESTING
8/20/09 15:09:07 EXACTLY THE SAME ZONING.
8/20/09 15:09:10 >> I PAID THE FEES.
8/20/09 15:09:13 I DID NOT UTILIZE, I
8/20/09 15:09:14 PAID $2000
8/20/09 15:09:14 TWICE.
8/20/09 15:09:17 >> RIGHT, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT
8/20/09 15:09:17 THAT.
8/20/09 15:09:19 WASN'T IT A DIFFERENT ZONING
8/20/09 15:09:20 THE LAST TIME?
8/20/09 15:09:21 >> YES.
8/20/09 15:09:24 >> WHAT WAS
8/20/09 15:09:27 IT?
8/20/09 15:09:27 >> FOR COPX.
8/20/09 15:09:30 >> I DON'T KNOW.
8/20/09 15:09:33 WHAT IS THE
8/20/09 15:09:35 REQUIREMENT TO
8/20/09 15:09:36 ALLOW THE CONTINUANCE.
8/20/09 15:09:39 >> IT'S
8/20/09 15:09:42 JUST OUR
8/20/09 15:09:42 DISCRETION.
8/20/09 15:09:44 >> I DON'T BELIEVE IT WILL
8/20/09 15:09:47 SERVE YOU OR THE COMMUNITY TO
8/20/09 15:09:49 HAVE A CONTINUANCE.
8/20/09 15:09:51 YOU HAVE HEARD FROM US, WE HAVE
8/20/09 15:09:53 HEARD FROM YOU.
8/20/09 15:09:54 >> COUNCIL.
8/20/09 15:09:55 I SHOULD ALSO JUST POINT OUT
8/20/09 15:09:57 FOR THE RECORD, SUCH AS IT IS,
8/20/09 15:09:59 THAT THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY
8/20/09 15:10:01 TO HAVE A FULL COUNCIL HERE
8/20/09 15:10:01 TODAY.
8/20/09 15:10:02 YOU HAVE ALL SEVEN MEMBERS.
8/20/09 15:10:05 YOU HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
8/20/09 15:10:08 HEAR THAT HEARING, EACH OAF YOU
8/20/09 15:10:09 IN ITS INTIRETY.
8/20/09 15:10:10 YOU D ENTIRETY.
8/20/09 15:10:12 YOU MAY NOT IN THE FUTURE HAVE
8/20/09 15:10:13 THAT OPPORTUNITY JUST SO YOU
8/20/09 15:10:15 KNOW AND SO IT'S CLEAR.
8/20/09 15:10:18 >> I WILL SECOND
8/20/09 15:10:20 THIS MOTION TO
8/20/09 15:10:23 DENY
8/20/09 15:10:26 THE CONTINUE
8/20/09 15:10:26 YANGS.
8/20/09 15:10:28 >> THERE WAS NO MOTION.
8/20/09 15:10:30 >> YES, THERE WAS.
8/20/09 15:10:31 I MADE THE MOTION TO CLOSE.
8/20/09 15:10:34 >> THE MOTION ON THE
8/20/09 15:10:37 FLOOR, THE
8/20/09 15:10:40 ORIGINALS MOTION ON THE
8/20/09 15:10:41 FLOOR
8/20/09 15:10:44 WAS TO CLOSE AND THEN WE JUST
8/20/09 15:10:46 MADE ANOTHER MOTION.
8/20/09 15:10:49 HE REQUESTED A
8/20/09 15:10:51 CONTINUANCE AND
8/20/09 15:10:54 AT THAT POINT,
8/20/09 15:10:57 THERE WAS
8/20/09 15:10:59 A
8/20/09 15:10:59 MOTION TO.
8/20/09 15:11:03 >> UNDER THE RULES OF
8/20/09 15:11:03 MIRANDA,
8/20/09 15:11:06 NOT ROBERTS, YOU HAVE TO GIVE
8/20/09 15:11:09 THE FIRST MOTION FIRST.
8/20/09 15:11:12 THAT'S THE ONE THAT
8/20/09 15:11:13 LINDA SAUL-
8/20/09 15:11:13 SENA MADE.
8/20/09 15:11:16 IF THE FIRST ONE PASSES, YOU
8/20/09 15:11:17 HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING ELSE.
8/20/09 15:11:20 THAT'S THE ONLY ADVICE I CAN
8/20/09 15:11:20 GIVE US.
8/20/09 15:11:23 I THINK WE ARE TREADING IN DEEP
8/20/09 15:11:23 WATER.
8/20/09 15:11:26 ONLY OUR
8/20/09 15:11:28 FEET ARE WET, BUT WE
8/20/09 15:11:31 ARE GOING TO DROWN PRETTY SOON.
8/20/09 15:11:33 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, WHAT HE SAID.
8/20/09 15:11:36 >> WE KNEAD TO DEAL WITH THE
8/20/09 15:11:37 ORIGINAL MOTION.
8/20/09 15:11:40 >> ON
8/20/09 15:11:41 THAT MOTION.
8/20/09 15:11:44 MR. ORTIZ WHEN WE CLOSE THE
8/20/09 15:11:47 MOTION, THERE'S NO OTHER
8/20/09 15:11:50 OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE US
8/20/09 15:11:51 HOURS OF
8/20/09 15:11:51 ORGANIZATION.
8/20/09 15:11:54 AS FAR AS I'M CONFUSED,
8/20/09 15:11:56 I
8/20/09 15:11:57 COULDN'T DO THAT.
8/20/09 15:11:59 >> MOTION, ALL IN FAVOR TO
8/20/09 15:12:02 CLOSE THE
8/20/09 15:12:05 PUBLIC HEARING
8/20/09 15:12:07 SAY
8/20/09 15:12:07 AYE.
8/20/09 15:12:08 >> AYE.
8/20/09 15:12:11 >> I MOVE TO DENY THE REQUEST.
8/20/09 15:12:13 >> NO, IT'S DENYING THE
8/20/09 15:12:15 PETITION AT THIS POINT.
8/20/09 15:12:18 >> SO WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC
8/20/09 15:12:18 HEARING.
8/20/09 15:12:21 THERE IS NO
8/20/09 15:12:23 REQUEST FOR
8/20/09 15:12:23 CONTINUANCE.
8/20/09 15:12:26 >> IT WAS DENIED
8/20/09 15:12:26 SO THAT RATHER
8/20/09 15:12:29 THAT BE CONTINUE IT, IT
8/20/09 15:12:30 WAS
8/20/09 15:12:31 DENIED THE OPPORTUNITY.
8/20/09 15:12:34 >> SO THE QUESTION IS, NOW WHAT
8/20/09 15:12:36 IS THE PLEDGE OF COUNCIL?
8/20/09 15:12:37 >> MR. CHAIRMAN.
8/20/09 15:12:40 I'M GOING TO MOVE TO
8/20/09 15:12:41 DENY THE,
8/20/09 15:12:44 UM, I
8/20/09 15:12:45 HAVE RECEIVED
8/20/09 15:12:47 CORRESPONDENCE FROM VARIOUS
8/20/09 15:12:50 CITIZENS, IT'S ALL IN THE
8/20/09 15:12:52 RECORD INCLUDING NEIGHBORHOOD
8/20/09 15:12:54 PRESIDENT NICK PALIA, TESTIMONY
8/20/09 15:12:56 THAT CAME IN FRONT OF US, KAREN
8/20/09 15:12:59 CRAWFORD AND THE
8/20/09 15:13:00 OTHER
8/20/09 15:13:00 GENTLEMAN.
8/20/09 15:13:03 UM, ALL THESE DOCUMENTS SPEAK
8/20/09 15:13:06 FOR THEMSELVES.
8/20/09 15:13:07 ROBERT SPODEN TESTIFY, WELL,
8/20/09 15:13:10 SPEAKS TO IN HIS E-MAIL SAYING
8/20/09 15:13:12 THAT LATE NIGHT PROBLEMS WILL
8/20/09 15:13:13 JUST GET WORSE.
8/20/09 15:13:16 I STRONGLY OPPOSE GETTING ANY
8/20/09 15:13:19 MORE FULL LIQUOR LICENSE,
8/20/09 15:13:21 THERE
8/20/09 15:13:23 ARE PETITIONS TALKING ABOUT
8/20/09 15:13:26 THERE ARE ALREADY NUMEROUS
8/20/09 15:13:29 ESTABLISHMENTS
8/20/09 15:13:31 SERVING
8/20/09 15:13:32 ALCOHOLIC BEVAGES.
8/20/09 15:13:34 --BEVERAGES.
8/20/09 15:13:37 WITHIN ONE
8/20/09 15:13:40 BLOCK THERE ARE --[
8/20/09 15:13:46 LISTING SEVERAL BUSINESSES ]
8/20/09 15:13:46 I
8/20/09 15:13:49 DON'T BELIEVE THE TESTIMONY IN
8/20/09 15:13:52 FRONT OF
8/20/09 15:13:54 US GENERATES THE
8/20/09 15:13:57 WAIVER WITH THE
8/20/09 15:14:03 MINIMUM
8/20/09 15:14:03 SEPARATION.
8/20/09 15:14:06 WITH THE RESIDENTIAL
8/20/09 15:14:08 AREAS AND
8/20/09 15:14:09 THE OTHER BUSINESSES.
8/20/09 15:14:12 I THINK THAT HOWARD AVENUE IS
8/20/09 15:14:15 ALREADY A PROBLEM AND BY
8/20/09 15:14:18 ALLOWING A 4 COPR AT
8/20/09 15:14:20 THIS
8/20/09 15:14:22 LOCATION WITH UNLIMITED, WITH
8/20/09 15:14:23 UNLIMITED, UM, HOURS OF
8/20/09 15:14:26 OPERATION, I THINK WE ARE JUST
8/20/09 15:14:29 GOING TO BE EX-AS PER
8/20/09 15:14:30 RATING
8/20/09 15:14:31 THE PROBLEM.
8/20/09 15:14:34 I DON'T THINK THEY MEET
8/20/09 15:14:35 THE
8/20/09 15:14:38 STANDARDS WHICH ARE
8/20/09 15:14:39 GENERAL
8/20/09 15:14:41 STANDARDS RELATING TO THE COME
8/20/09 15:14:42 PAT ABILITY.
8/20/09 15:14:45 I THINK THE USE WOULD
8/20/09 15:14:47 ESTABLISH
8/20/09 15:14:47 ADDITIONAL PRECEDENCE.
8/20/09 15:14:50 THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH
8/20/09 15:14:51 MCDENTONS.
8/20/09 15:14:54 EVERYBODY POINTS TO MCDENTONS
8/20/09 15:14:56 AND THEY WANT TO BE LIKE THEM.
8/20/09 15:14:59 THAT'S MY MOTION TO DE
8/20/09 15:15:00 ANY.
8/20/09 15:15:02 >> THANK YOU --DENY.
8/20/09 15:15:03 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 15:15:05 >> I WANTED TO SECOND THAT
8/20/09 15:15:08 THESE ARE WONDERFUL RESTAURANT
8/20/09 15:15:08 TOURS.
8/20/09 15:15:11 THEY
8/20/09 15:15:13 ARE GREAT ENTREPRENEURS.
8/20/09 15:15:14 I KNOW THAT YOUR RESTAURANT
8/20/09 15:15:17 WOULD BE HUGELY
8/20/09 15:15:18 SUCCESSFUL
8/20/09 15:15:21 WHEREVER YOU
8/20/09 15:15:22 PUT IT.
8/20/09 15:15:24 DON'T GET DISCOURAGED BY THIS,
8/20/09 15:15:27 BUT SEVEN PARKING SPACES IS NOT
8/20/09 15:15:28 GOING TO BE SO GOOD.
8/20/09 15:15:30 I THINK I AM LOOKING AT THIS
8/20/09 15:15:33 THE WAY I AM SPOALZED TO AS A
8/20/09 15:15:39 COUNCIL PERSON AND I THINK
8/20/09 15:15:41 ANOTHER LATE NIGHT LIQUOR
8/20/09 15:15:44 ZONING IS NOT WHAT WE
8/20/09 15:15:47 SHOULD BE
8/20/09 15:15:47 DOING.
8/20/09 15:15:50 >> THE MOTION
8/20/09 15:15:51 ON THE FLOOR.
8/20/09 15:15:54 ALL IN FAVOR FOR THE MOTION ON
8/20/09 15:15:57 THE FLOOR TO DENY
8/20/09 15:16:00 LET ME
8/20/09 15:16:03 KNOW
8/20/09 15:16:06 BY SAYING AYE.
8/20/09 15:16:08 >> IT'S UNANIMOUS.
8/20/09 15:16:11 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 15:16:23 [
8/20/09 15:16:25 INDESCERNIBLE ]
8/20/09 15:16:28 >> ALL
8/20/09 15:16:31 IN
8/20/09 15:16:33 FAVOR SIGNIFY.
8/20/09 15:16:36 AYE.
8/20/09 15:16:51 >>> THE NEXT ITEM
8/20/09 15:16:52 ON THE
8/20/09 15:16:55 PETITION IS FOR THE
8/20/09 15:16:55 PROPERTY
8/20/09 15:16:57 LOCATED AT 223 SOUTH 12th
8/20/09 15:16:57 STREET.
8/20/09 15:17:00 THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE
8/20/09 15:17:03 PROPERTY IS CD 1,
8/20/09 15:17:06 AT FOR
8/20/09 15:17:07 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES WHICH
8/20/09 15:17:10 ALLOWS FOR THE SALE OF
8/20/09 15:17:13 BEVERAGES REGARDLESS TO THE
8/20/09 15:17:15 ALCOHOL CONTENT TO BE CONSUMED
8/20/09 15:17:18 ON THE PROPERTY ONLY.
8/20/09 15:17:21 THE REQUEST IS FOR
8/20/09 15:17:23 9700 SQUARE
8/20/09 15:17:23 FEET.
8/20/09 15:17:25 THERE ARE 24 PARKS SPICES
8/20/09 15:17:27 REQUIRED WHILE ONLY THREE
8/20/09 15:17:30 SPACES ARE PROVIDED ON SITE.
8/20/09 15:17:33 AND I
8/20/09 15:17:35 HAVE AN AERIAL OF THE
8/20/09 15:17:36 SITE.
8/20/09 15:17:39 AND THIS IS THE SITE
8/20/09 15:17:39 LOCATED
8/20/09 15:17:42 HERE ON
8/20/09 15:17:44 12th STREET.
8/20/09 15:17:46 BORDERS WITH CUMBERLAND TO THE
8/20/09 15:17:46 SOUTH.
8/20/09 15:17:48 11th IS ALONG THE WEST.
8/20/09 15:17:51 >> CAN YOU HOLD RIGHT THERE AND
8/20/09 15:17:54 JUST POINT OUT WHAT RESIDENTIAL
8/20/09 15:17:57 IS NEARBY AND WHAT RESIDENTIAL
8/20/09 15:17:58 WE HAVE APPROVED NEARBY?
8/20/09 15:18:01 >> THIS IS JUST SOUTH OF THE
8/20/09 15:18:04 SITE.
8/20/09 15:18:06 NOW THIS AERIAL DOESN'T SHOW
8/20/09 15:18:06 IT.
8/20/09 15:18:07 THAT'S PART OF THE REPORT THAT
8/20/09 15:18:09 I WAS GOING TO GO THROUGH.
8/20/09 15:18:11 >> OKAY, AS LONG AS YOU ARE
8/20/09 15:18:14 GETTING THERE, THANK YOU.
8/20/09 15:18:17 >> THIS
8/20/09 15:18:20 IS THE SITE
8/20/09 15:18:21 ON 12th
8/20/09 15:18:21 STREET.
8/20/09 15:18:23 THIS IS THE WEST SIDE OF THE
8/20/09 15:18:24 SITE.
8/20/09 15:18:27 THAT'S JUST WEST OF THE SITE.
8/20/09 15:18:30 THIS IS THE
8/20/09 15:18:33 NORTH SIDE OF THE
8/20/09 15:18:34 SITE LOOKING SOUTH.
8/20/09 15:18:37 THIS IS THE NORTH OF THE SITE.
8/20/09 15:18:40 AND THAT'S THE VIEW
8/20/09 15:18:40 LOOKING
8/20/09 15:18:43 NORTH ON 12th STREET.
8/20/09 15:18:52 THE DEVELOPMENTAL COMMITTEE HAS
8/20/09 15:18:55 REVIEWED
8/20/09 15:18:57 THE PETITION AND --I
8/20/09 15:19:00 WOULD LIKE TO
8/20/09 15:19:02 GO OVER THE
8/20/09 15:19:02 INCONSISTENCIES.
8/20/09 15:19:05 THE FIRST IS IN THE
8/20/09 15:19:06 SITE DATA
8/20/09 15:19:09 SECTION, WE
8/20/09 15:19:12 ARE ASKING THE
8/20/09 15:19:14 PARKING GARAGE ACROSS FROM
8/20/09 15:19:17 12th STREET TO BE REMOVED
8/20/09 15:19:18 SINCE
8/20/09 15:19:20 THE PARKING EXHIBIT HAS NOT
8/20/09 15:19:22 BEEN SUBMIT TED.
8/20/09 15:19:24 ALSO, IT INDICATES THAT THERE
8/20/09 15:19:27 ARE NO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES
8/20/09 15:19:30 WITHIN 1200 FEET OF THE SITE.
8/20/09 15:19:32 WE HAVE CONCERNS WITH THAT.
8/20/09 15:19:35 WE USED THE CITY'S MAP
8/20/09 15:19:35 INFO
8/20/09 15:19:38 SYSTEM AND THE TOWER'S CHANNEL
8/20/09 15:19:41 SIDE IS WITHIN 700
8/20/09 15:19:44 FEET SOUTH
8/20/09 15:19:45 OF THE SITE.
8/20/09 15:19:47 VICTORY LOSS IS APPROXIMATELY
8/20/09 15:19:49 330 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY.
8/20/09 15:19:52 WE ARE ASKING THE PETITIONNER
8/20/09 15:19:54 TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL WAIVER TO
8/20/09 15:19:57 THE PLAN WHICH WOULD BE SECTION
8/20/09 15:20:00 27-272 TO REDUCE
8/20/09 15:20:03 THE MINIMUM
8/20/09 15:20:05 DISTANCE FROM 1000 FEET TO
8/20/09 15:20:05 ZERO.
8/20/09 15:20:07 >> THIS IS THE POINT OF ORDER
8/20/09 15:20:09 BEFORE WE GET MUCH INTO IT.
8/20/09 15:20:12 IF THEY DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS
8/20/09 15:20:14 RESIDENTIAL WITHIN 73 FEET, DID
8/20/09 15:20:16 THEY NOTICE THE PROPERTY OWNERS
8/20/09 15:20:19 IN THE TOWERS AT
8/20/09 15:20:20 CHANNEL SIDE?
8/20/09 15:20:23 >> I CAN CHECK THE LIST
8/20/09 15:20:24 OF THE
8/20/09 15:20:27 NOTIFIED OWNERS, BUT THEY WOULD
8/20/09 15:20:29 HAVE HAD TO NOTIFY THEM.
8/20/09 15:20:30 >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
8/20/09 15:20:33 >> I THINK IT'S A
8/20/09 15:20:35 HUGE
8/20/09 15:20:35 QUESTION.
8/20/09 15:20:38 WE CAN'T GO ON WITH THE HEARING
8/20/09 15:20:38 OF.
8/20/09 15:20:40 >> CURRENTLY IT'S 250 FEET.
8/20/09 15:20:41 THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL
8/20/09 15:20:42 REQUIREMENT FOR THE NOTICE EVEN
8/20/09 15:20:45 IF THE WAIVERS GO OUT TO 1000
8/20/09 15:20:45 FEET.
8/20/09 15:20:46 IT'S THE SAME FOR ALL.
8/20/09 15:20:49 >> I GUESS WE NEED TO HEAR FROM
8/20/09 15:20:52 THE PETITIONNER AND MAKE SURE
8/20/09 15:20:54 THEY WERE AWARE TO NOTIFY ALL
8/20/09 15:20:56 OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE
8/20/09 15:20:58 TOWER AND THEY DID.
8/20/09 15:21:01 JUST CONFIRM IT SO WE CAN
8/20/09 15:21:03 CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD.
8/20/09 15:21:05 >> GOOD AFTERNOON MR. CHAIRMAN.
8/20/09 15:21:08 MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
8/20/09 15:21:11 MY
8/20/09 15:21:13 NAME IS MARK --I HAVE BEEN
8/20/09 15:21:13 SWRN.
8/20/09 15:21:15 WE NEATSED 110 OWNERS IN THE
8/20/09 15:21:16 TOUR INCLUDING MYSELF.
8/20/09 15:21:17 [ LAUGHTER ]
8/20/09 15:21:18 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 15:21:19 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 15:21:21 WE CAN GET INTO IT LATER ON.
8/20/09 15:21:21 >> THANK YOU.
8/20/09 15:21:24 >> DID YOU OPEN YOUR OWN
8/20/09 15:21:24 NOTICE?
8/20/09 15:21:27 >> MY
8/20/09 15:21:29 WIFE DID.
8/20/09 15:21:32 >> AND ALSO SOLID WASTE HAD A
8/20/09 15:21:34 FINDING OF INCONSISTENT.
8/20/09 15:21:37 IT'S REGARDING NOTE NUMBER 12
8/20/09 15:21:40 ON THE SITE PLAN WHICH IS NOT
8/20/09 15:21:41 ACCEPTABLE ON THE REVIEW
8/20/09 15:21:44 PROCESS IN THE WASTE.
8/20/09 15:21:45 WE ARE NOTIFYING NUMBER 12 ON
8/20/09 15:21:45 THE PLAN.
8/20/09 15:21:48 WE ARE ASKING THAT
8/20/09 15:21:50 SOLID WASTE
8/20/09 15:21:53 SERVICE WOULD
8/20/09 15:21:54 BE CURB SIDE.
8/20/09 15:21:57 THE CHECKS WILL BE
8/20/09 15:21:58 ON 12th
8/20/09 15:21:58 STREET.
8/20/09 15:22:00 WE ARE ASKING THAT IT IS
8/20/09 15:22:03 COLLECTED BY ROLL OUT, CART OR
8/20/09 15:22:06 DUMPSTER TO
8/20/09 15:22:09 BE DETERMINED.
8/20/09 15:22:12 THE REFUSE WILL BE STORED IN
8/20/09 15:22:14 THE BUILDING ON NON-COLLECTION
8/20/09 15:22:14 DAYS.
8/20/09 15:22:17 AND WE ARE
8/20/09 15:22:20 ASKING
8/20/09 15:22:22 THAT THE
8/20/09 15:22:26 CONTAINER BE AVAILABLE FOR
8/20/09 15:22:26 THE
8/20/09 15:22:28 CARTS PROVIDED FOR THE REFUSE
8/20/09 15:22:30 CARTS OR THE ROLL OUT DUMPSTERS
8/20/09 15:22:33 AND THE NEXT
8/20/09 15:22:35 SIGNING OF
8/20/09 15:22:38 INCONSISTENCY IS FROM
8/20/09 15:22:39 TRANSPORTATION.
8/20/09 15:22:42 THEY FOUND AN INCONSISTENCY IN
8/20/09 15:22:45 THE REDUCTION IN
8/20/09 15:22:46 THE PARKING.
8/20/09 15:22:49 THE NEXT IS THE TECHNICAL
8/20/09 15:22:49 STANDARDS.
8/20/09 15:22:51 THE CODE OF THE DRIVEWAY IS A
8/20/09 15:22:54 MINIMUM OF 2 FEET FROM THE
8/20/09 15:22:55 PROPERTY LINE SEPARATING ONE
8/20/09 15:22:57 PARCEL FROM ANOTHER.
8/20/09 15:22:58 THE DRIVEWAY NEEDS TO BE MOVED
8/20/09 15:23:00 10 FEET TO THE EAST OF ITS
8/20/09 15:23:01 CURRENT LOCATION AND THE LAST
8/20/09 15:23:03 ONE IS A WAIVER TO BE PLACED ON
8/20/09 15:23:06 THE SITE PLAN REQUESTING THAT
8/20/09 15:23:09 WE REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PARK
8/20/09 15:23:11 SPACES FROM 24 TO THREE AND
8/20/09 15:23:13 THAT CONCLUDES THE
8/20/09 15:23:14 PRESENTATION, I'M AVAILABLE IF
8/20/09 15:23:17 YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
8/20/09 15:23:20 >> YEAH, UM,
8/20/09 15:23:21 I'M IN AMAZEMENT
8/20/09 15:23:24 THAT THIS REQUEST IS FOR
8/20/09 15:23:25 9400
8/20/09 15:23:28 SQUARE FEET OF BAR I
8/20/09 15:23:30 GUESS FOR
8/20/09 15:23:33 COPX AND WE ONLY REQUIRE 24
8/20/09 15:23:34 SPACES?
8/20/09 15:23:35 HOW IS THAT?
8/20/09 15:23:37 HOW DOES THAT WORK OUT?
8/20/09 15:23:40 >> YES, BASED UPON
8/20/09 15:23:40 THE
8/20/09 15:23:43 OCCUPANCY FOR THE USE ON THE
8/20/09 15:23:45 SITE AND 1700 SQUARE FEET OF
8/20/09 15:23:48 THAT
8/20/09 15:23:51 IS PATIO, PROPOSED
8/20/09 15:23:51 PATIO.
8/20/09 15:23:52 >> RIGHT.
8/20/09 15:23:55 >> TRANSPORTATION, I'M SORRY.
8/20/09 15:24:01 >> IS
8/20/09 15:24:04 THIS JUST A UNIQUE
8/20/09 15:24:05 CHANNEL SIDE REQUIREMENT?
8/20/09 15:24:07 OR IS THAT THE SAME FOR
8/20/09 15:24:10 ANYWHERE IN THE
8/20/09 15:24:12 CITY?
8/20/09 15:24:15 >>
8/20/09 15:24:17 NO, IT'S EITHER TWO PER
8/20/09 15:24:17 SEAT.
8/20/09 15:24:20 >> IF YOU HAVE A
8/20/09 15:24:21 HUGE SPACE,
8/20/09 15:24:22 BUT YOU CLAIM YOU ARE ONLY
8/20/09 15:24:24 GOING TO HAVE A HANDFUL OF
8/20/09 15:24:26 SEATS, THEN THAT'S HOW YOU GET
8/20/09 15:24:28 TO THAT NUMBER?
8/20/09 15:24:30 >> YES.
8/20/09 15:24:30 >> OKAY.
8/20/09 15:24:33 THANK YOU.
8/20/09 15:24:36 >>
8/20/09 15:24:42 OFFER MILLER?
8/20/09 15:24:45 >> I HAVE BEEN SWORN AND THE
8/20/09 15:24:46 MIS-DEPARTMENT HAS NO OBJECTION
8/20/09 15:24:49 TO THE SPECIAL USE
8/20/09 15:24:50 OF THIS
8/20/09 15:24:53 PERMIT.
8/20/09 15:25:36 CHAIRMAN?
8/20/09 15:25:39 >> I BELIEVE YOU ARE SHORT ONE.
8/20/09 15:25:41 >> I CAN SHARE.
8/20/09 15:25:44 >> THERE IS AN EXTRA COPY.
8/20/09 15:25:47 I WILL GIVE MY COPY
8/20/09 15:25:50 TO
8/20/09 15:25:51 THE
8/20/09 15:25:51 CLERK.
8/20/09 15:25:53 >> MAY I PROCEED, MR. CHAIRMAN?
8/20/09 15:25:54 >> YES WITH, YOU MAY.
8/20/09 15:25:57 >> ONCE AGAIN,
8/20/09 15:25:59 I REPRESENT
8/20/09 15:26:02 BUCKMAN, THE OWNER OF
8/20/09 15:26:04 THE
8/20/09 15:26:04 PROPERTY.
8/20/09 15:26:05 HE IS PROPOSING THE RESTAURANT.
8/20/09 15:26:07 RIGHT UP FRONT, I WANT TO NOTE
8/20/09 15:26:10 THAT THE TOURS OF CHANNEL SIDE
8/20/09 15:26:13 IS NOT RESIDENTIALLY
8/20/09 15:26:16 ZONED IT'S
8/20/09 15:26:19 ZONED CD 1, ACTUALLY, THERE ARE
8/20/09 15:26:21 ONLY FIVE USES PERMITTED.
8/20/09 15:26:24 THERE ARE FOUR OR FIVE WET
8/20/09 15:26:24 USES
8/20/09 15:26:27 IN THE AREA OF CHANNEL SIDE.
8/20/09 15:26:29 IT'S MIXED USE.
8/20/09 15:26:32 NOBODY
8/20/09 15:26:33 IS OBJECTING.
8/20/09 15:26:35 THE TOWERS, OBVIOUSLY AS I
8/20/09 15:26:37 MENTIONED BEFORE, WE SENT THEM
8/20/09 15:26:37 A NOTICE.
8/20/09 15:26:41 WHAT I HAVE HERE, IS
8/20/09 15:26:42 LASHUAN
8/20/09 15:26:44 DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF
8/20/09 15:26:44 COVERING THE AREA.
8/20/09 15:26:47 I WANT TO GO OVER A COUPLE OF
8/20/09 15:26:50 THINGS
8/20/09 15:26:53 WITH YOU, PLEASE.
8/20/09 15:26:53 THIS IS.
8/20/09 15:26:56 THIS IS
8/20/09 15:26:59 AN OLD AERIAL, THE SAME
8/20/09 15:27:02 THAT THAT SHAWN USED.
8/20/09 15:27:05 COUNCIL VACATED THE AREA
8/20/09 15:27:06 TO
8/20/09 15:27:07 ACCOMMODATE THE CHUCK TOWERS.
8/20/09 15:27:10 YOU CAN SEE THE AREA
8/20/09 15:27:11 IN YELLOW.
8/20/09 15:27:13 ENTIRELY FOR COP.
8/20/09 15:27:16 THERE'S A WET ZONE DIRECTLY
8/20/09 15:27:17 ACROSS THE STREET.
8/20/09 15:27:20 THERE IS NO
8/20/09 15:27:21 PRECEDENCE SET,
8/20/09 15:27:21 OBVIOUSLY.
8/20/09 15:27:24 MOST OF THOSE ARE THE SHOPS
8/20/09 15:27:24 OF
8/20/09 15:27:26 CHANNEL SIDE I THINK ROUGHLY 15
8/20/09 15:27:29 AND THE AMBULANCE IN THE
8/20/09 15:27:31 CHANNEL OF --BALANCE IN THE
8/20/09 15:27:32 CHANNEL.
8/20/09 15:27:34 THEY SERVE LIQUOR AND BEER AND
8/20/09 15:27:36 WINE AS WELL.
8/20/09 15:27:37 THIS ISSUE ABOUT PARKING CAME
8/20/09 15:27:39 UP AND WHAT IS KIND OF
8/20/09 15:27:42 INTERESTING IS THAT THIS IS A
8/20/09 15:27:44 DISTRICT AND THIS COUNCIL SET
8/20/09 15:27:47 FORTH IN THE
8/20/09 15:27:49 COMPREHENSIVE
8/20/09 15:27:52 PLAN IS THAT ONE OF THE USES
8/20/09 15:27:52 IS
8/20/09 15:27:54 TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT AND
8/20/09 15:27:58 THE REDEVELOPMENT AND THE
8/20/09 15:28:00 AREAS
8/20/09 15:28:03 THAT MAINTAIN
8/20/09 15:28:04 THE HISTORY'S
8/20/09 15:28:04 AREA.
8/20/09 15:28:06 IN THEORY, THAT SOUNDS VERY
8/20/09 15:28:07 GOOD, BUT WHEN YOU PUT THE
8/20/09 15:28:10 RUBBER TO THE ROAD AND APPLY
8/20/09 15:28:12 THE CODE TO THE GENERAL TAMPA
8/20/09 15:28:14 AREA AND YOU TRY TO IMPOSE
8/20/09 15:28:16 THOSE ON THE SMALL BUILDINGS IN
8/20/09 15:28:18 THE HEART OF THE REDEVELOPMENT
8/20/09 15:28:20 AREA, IT DOESN'T WORK.
8/20/09 15:28:22 WHAT YOU HAVE IS YOU WANT TO
8/20/09 15:28:24 MAINTAIN THE OLD BUILDINGS AND
8/20/09 15:28:26 ON THE OTHER HAND, FOR EXAMPLE,
8/20/09 15:28:27 OURS HAS 8 SPACES.
8/20/09 15:28:30 ALL OF THE
8/20/09 15:28:33 PROPERTIES HAVE
8/20/09 15:28:34 NON-
8/20/09 15:28:35 CONFIRMING ITEMS.
8/20/09 15:28:38 WHETHER IT'S SET BACK OR OTHER
8/20/09 15:28:38 THINGS.
8/20/09 15:28:40 THE CITY CODE SAYS WE ARE
8/20/09 15:28:41 REQUIRED 24 SPACES.
8/20/09 15:28:44 AFTER THE CODE, WE HAVE
8/20/09 15:28:46 88
8/20/09 15:28:49 COMPLIANT WE HAVE 3. LOOK
8/20/09 15:28:50 AT
8/20/09 15:28:53 THE CENTRAL --WHERE DO
8/20/09 15:28:54 THEY
8/20/09 15:28:55 PARK?
8/20/09 15:28:55 IN THE GARAGE.
8/20/09 15:28:57 IF YOU LOOK IN THE AREA, YOU
8/20/09 15:28:59 CAN SEE THAT THE PORT AUTHORITY
8/20/09 15:29:01 GARAGE IS DIRECTLY ACROSS IF
8/20/09 15:29:01 STREET.
8/20/09 15:29:04 IF YOU ARE TRYING TO IMPOSE THE
8/20/09 15:29:06 PARKING REQUIREMENTS, YOU MIGHT
8/20/09 15:29:08 AS WELL KNOCK DOWN ALL OF THE
8/20/09 15:29:10 BUILDINGS, IT'S NOT GOING TO
8/20/09 15:29:10 HAPPEN.
8/20/09 15:29:13 I TRIED TO
8/20/09 15:29:14 GET INTO AN
8/20/09 15:29:16 AGREEMENT WITH THE PORT
8/20/09 15:29:17 AUTHORITY, BUT THEY SAID WE
8/20/09 15:29:18 DON'T DO THAT.
8/20/09 15:29:21 ALL WE HAVE IS THE PARKING
8/20/09 15:29:22 ACROSS THE STREET WHICH MAKES
8/20/09 15:29:25 SENSE AND I THINK THAT IS THE
8/20/09 15:29:25 INTENTION.
8/20/09 15:29:28 SO, IN ANY EVENT, UM, YEAH, ONE
8/20/09 15:29:30 OTHER POINT, TOO I WANT TO MAKE
8/20/09 15:29:33 IS HERE AGAIN, THE SET BACKS IN
8/20/09 15:29:36 CHANNEL SIDE ARE
8/20/09 15:29:38 FIE FEET FRONT
8/20/09 15:29:40 AND ZERO ON THE SIDES OKAY?
8/20/09 15:29:43 SOL THEY ARE
8/20/09 15:29:44 SUGGESTING THE
8/20/09 15:29:46 ZERO LOT LINES AND ON THE OTHER
8/20/09 15:29:48 HAND, THE CITY TRIES TO IMPOSE
8/20/09 15:29:50 THE AREAS FOR THE SOLID WASTE
8/20/09 15:29:53 AND THE PARK AND ALL
8/20/09 15:29:54 OF THAT.
8/20/09 15:29:56 IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO
8/20/09 15:29:56 COMPLY.
8/20/09 15:29:59 WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT
8/20/09 15:30:00 IN A
8/20/09 15:30:01 SECOND.
8/20/09 15:30:03 THE FIRST WAIVER RAISED BY
8/20/09 15:30:05 STAFF IS THE SEPARATION
8/20/09 15:30:07 REQUIREMENT BETWEEN THE SUGGEST
8/20/09 15:30:09 PROPERTY AND RESIDENTIAL
8/20/09 15:30:09 PROPERTY.
8/20/09 15:30:12 HERE AGAIN, THE CD 1 HAS 90
8/20/09 15:30:18 DIFFERENT USES.
8/20/09 15:30:20 INDUSTRIAL, CONVENIENT STORE,
8/20/09 15:30:22 CREAM TORE RUM, YOU NAME IT.
8/20/09 15:30:25 ONLY FIVE IS FOR
8/20/09 15:30:25 RESIDENTIAL.
8/20/09 15:30:28 WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I DON'T
8/20/09 15:30:31 THINK IT'S RESIDENTIALLY OWNED
8/20/09 15:30:33 PROPERTIES AND AS I MENTIONED
8/20/09 15:30:35 BEFORE, THE TOWERS IS A MIXED
8/20/09 15:30:36 USE DEVELOPMENT.
8/20/09 15:30:38 IT HAS SOME OF OUR
8/20/09 15:30:38 DEVELOPMENTS.
8/20/09 15:30:40 NIGHTCLUB, AS I MENTIONED
8/20/09 15:30:40 BEFORE.
8/20/09 15:30:43 SO, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE,
8/20/09 15:30:44 IT'S
8/20/09 15:30:46 NOT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AND
8/20/09 15:30:49 FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE DON'T
8/20/09 15:30:51 NEED A WAIVER, BUT IF THAT'S AN
8/20/09 15:30:54 ISSUE, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM
8/20/09 15:30:57 PUTTING THAT ON IF A
8/20/09 15:30:57 WAIVER IS
8/20/09 15:31:01 REQUESTED.
8/20/09 15:31:07 THE PROPERTY IS IN
8/20/09 15:31:08 THE OFFICE
8/20/09 15:31:09 WAREHOUSE WHERE STARSHIP IS
8/20/09 15:31:11 RUNNING FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER
8/20/09 15:31:13 AT THIS TIME YOU CAN SEE THE
8/20/09 15:31:16 TOWERS IN THE BACKGROUND.
8/20/09 15:31:19 THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING TO
8/20/09 15:31:20 THE
8/20/09 15:31:21 NORTH ON 12th STREET AND YOU
8/20/09 15:31:24 CAN SEE EVERYBODY IS PARKING ON
8/20/09 15:31:25 THE STREET, OKAY?
8/20/09 15:31:29 AND I COULD SHOW YOU
8/20/09 15:31:29 SOME
8/20/09 15:31:29 PICTURES.
8/20/09 15:31:32 I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS
8/20/09 15:31:32 OF
8/20/09 15:31:35 THE SOLID WASTE CONTAINERS.
8/20/09 15:31:36 IT'S OKAY WITH THE GOVERNMENT
8/20/09 15:31:39 TO PUT IT IN THE RIGHT AWAY
8/20/09 15:31:39 AND
8/20/09 15:31:41 THE PORT AUTHORITY DIRECTLY TO
8/20/09 15:31:43 THE SOUTH, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH,
8/20/09 15:31:46 THEY HAVE THEIR DUMPSTER
8/20/09 15:31:47 ON
8/20/09 15:31:48 12th AVENUE.
8/20/09 15:31:51 WE WANT TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY
8/20/09 15:31:53 CODES TO THE EXTENT WE CAN.
8/20/09 15:31:56 >>> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
8/20/09 15:31:58 THIS
8/20/09 15:31:58 DRIVEWAY REQUIREMENT.
8/20/09 15:32:01 HERE AGAIN, THIS IS A CITY
8/20/09 15:32:01 WIDE
8/20/09 15:32:01 REQUIREMENT.
8/20/09 15:32:03 WE HAVE A DRIVE WAY I WILL SHOW
8/20/09 15:32:05 YOU IN A SECOND.
8/20/09 15:32:07 THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT ABOUT
8/20/09 15:32:09 60 YEARS AGO AND I DON'T KNOW
8/20/09 15:32:12 IF IN 1946 COUNCILMAN PI
8/20/09 15:32:13 RAP DA
8/20/09 15:32:16 WAS OLD ENOUGH TO HAVE A
8/20/09 15:32:18 DRINK
8/20/09 15:32:19 WITH TEDDY ROOSEVELT, BUT IT
8/20/09 15:32:21 WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT HE
8/20/09 15:32:23 WAS ABOUT 30 AND HAD A FULL
8/20/09 15:32:24 HEAD OF HAIR.
8/20/09 15:32:27 IN ANY EVENT, I WILL PRESS ON
8/20/09 15:32:27 HERE.
8/20/09 15:32:29 >> DO YOU WANT A VOTE TODAY ON
8/20/09 15:32:29 THIS?
8/20/09 15:32:30 [ LAUGHTER ]
8/20/09 15:32:33 >> YOU
8/20/09 15:32:36 BROUGHT IT UP.
8/20/09 15:32:39 SO THIS
8/20/09 15:32:42 IS ONE OF THE HANG UPS
8/20/09 15:32:44 HERE, THIS IS CUMBERLAND
8/20/09 15:32:45 LOOKING NORTH.
8/20/09 15:32:46 THIS IS BEHIND THE BUILDING.
8/20/09 15:32:48 YOU CAN SEE, IT'S NON-
8/20/09 15:32:51 CONFIRMING, BUT YOU CAN FIT TEN
8/20/09 15:32:53 CARS IN THERE NO SWEAT.
8/20/09 15:32:53 HERE'S THE PROBLEM.
8/20/09 15:32:56 YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY LINE
8/20/09 15:32:59 WHERE THE TELEPHONE POLE IS
8/20/09 15:32:59 LOCATED.
8/20/09 15:33:00 THAT'S THE NEXT PROPERTY OVER.
8/20/09 15:33:03 THERE'S THE TREES ON OUR
8/20/09 15:33:05 PROPERTY AND THEIRS.
8/20/09 15:33:07 THE ISSUE NOW IS THAT WE DON'T
8/20/09 15:33:09 COME PLY WITH CODE BECAUSE THIS
8/20/09 15:33:12 DRIVEWAY IS TWO FEET OVER THE
8/20/09 15:33:13 FLAIR.
8/20/09 15:33:15 NOT THE DRIVEWAY, THE FLAIR IS
8/20/09 15:33:18 TWO FEET OVER ON
8/20/09 15:33:19 THE ADJACENT
8/20/09 15:33:19 PROPERTY.
8/20/09 15:33:22 IT DOESN'T MEET
8/20/09 15:33:23 THE TECHNICAL
8/20/09 15:33:24 REQUIREMENTS.
8/20/09 15:33:26 I HAVE GIVEN YOU SOME CODE
8/20/09 15:33:28 PROVISIONS AND I AM
8/20/09 15:33:29 PARAPHRASING.
8/20/09 15:33:31 THERE'S REALLY A SAFETY ISSUE
8/20/09 15:33:34 THAT WOULD BE ADHERED TO AND
8/20/09 15:33:35 I
8/20/09 15:33:38 WILL GIVE YOU A COPY
8/20/09 15:33:38 OF THE
8/20/09 15:33:38 CRITERIA.
8/20/09 15:33:41 I COULD GO TO THE
8/20/09 15:33:44 TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND
8/20/09 15:33:47 IT'S PRACTICAL AND YOU
8/20/09 15:33:50 CAN'T
8/20/09 15:33:52 REASONABLELY USE YOUR PROPERTY.
8/20/09 15:33:55 IS THAT TWO FOOT FLAIR GOING TO
8/20/09 15:33:56 CAUSE A SAFETY PROBLEM?
8/20/09 15:33:58 AND YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY
8/20/09 15:34:00 NEXT DOOR IS ABOUT TWO ACRES
8/20/09 15:34:03 AND THEY HAVE
8/20/09 15:34:05 HUNDREDS OF
8/20/09 15:34:07 LINEAL FEET ON CUMBERLAND AND
8/20/09 15:34:09 THE OTHER STREET TO PUT THEIR
8/20/09 15:34:09 DRIVEWAY.
8/20/09 15:34:12 ALSO, LOOK AT THIS, THE CITY'S
8/20/09 15:34:14 TECHNICAL STAND DAREDS SAY THAT
8/20/09 15:34:16 A DRIVEWAY HAS TO BE AT LEAST
8/20/09 15:34:19 25 FEET FROM ANOTHER DRIVE WAY.
8/20/09 15:34:22 SO, ASSUMING WE GOT THE WAIVE,
8/20/09 15:34:23 THE DRIVEWAY NEXT DOOR WOULD
8/20/09 15:34:26 HAVE TO BE 15 FEET
8/20/09 15:34:28 AWAY FROM
8/20/09 15:34:29 ITS OWN FLAIR.
8/20/09 15:34:32 IT'S NOT LIKE WE ARE IMPENDING
8/20/09 15:34:34 THE DRIVEWAY.
8/20/09 15:34:35 REALIST CALI, THEY ARE NOT
8/20/09 15:34:38 GOING TO PUT ANOTHER DRIVE WAY
8/20/09 15:34:38 THERE.
8/20/09 15:34:40 HERE AGAIN, THIS IS THE FLAIR
8/20/09 15:34:43 AT ISSUE AND THIS IS CUMBERLAND
8/20/09 15:34:46 AND LOOKING NORTH
8/20/09 15:34:49 ON MERIDIAN.
8/20/09 15:34:52 THE PROPERTY LOCATED TO
8/20/09 15:34:53 THE
8/20/09 15:34:56 WEST, I MENTIONED IS ABOUT TWO
8/20/09 15:34:56 ACRES.
8/20/09 15:35:00 SO I THINK
8/20/09 15:35:02 I COVERED PARKING
8/20/09 15:35:04 AND THIS TECHNICAL STANDARD
8/20/09 15:35:06 WHICH AGAIN THE CODE PROVISIONS
8/20/09 15:35:09 ARE PRETTY CLEAR, YOU HAVE TO
8/20/09 15:35:12 ABILITY TO WAIVE AND THE ISSUE
8/20/09 15:35:13 OF SOLID WASTE IS PRETTY
8/20/09 15:35:13 DIFFICULT.
8/20/09 15:35:16 I HAVE A LOT OF THE PICTURES
8/20/09 15:35:18 AND IF YOU GO OUT THERE, THE
8/20/09 15:35:20 LAY OF THE LAND AND THE DUMP
8/20/09 15:35:23 TEARS AND THE --DUMPSTERS
8/20/09 15:35:23 AND
8/20/09 15:35:26 THE CONTAINERS ARE IN THE RIGHT
8/20/09 15:35:26 OF WAY.
8/20/09 15:35:27 HERE'S WHAT THE CITY IS
8/20/09 15:35:29 SUGGESTING AND WE WILL GO WITH
8/20/09 15:35:31 THE FLOW HERE, IS THAT THEY
8/20/09 15:35:34 WANT US TO HAVE PICK UP
8/20/09 15:35:35 ON 12th
8/20/09 15:35:36 STREET AND INSIDE THIS BUILDING
8/20/09 15:35:39 WHICH IS ROUGHLY THE SIZE OF
8/20/09 15:35:40 THE CONVENIENCE STORE.
8/20/09 15:35:42 THIS ISN'T A BIG PROPOSAL HERE,
8/20/09 15:35:44 IT'S VERY SMALL.
8/20/09 15:35:47 THEY WANT US TO PUT THE
8/20/09 15:35:48 DUMPSTER CONTAINERS ON WHEELS
8/20/09 15:35:51 OR THE OTHERS IN THE BUILDING,
8/20/09 15:35:51 OKAY?
8/20/09 15:35:54 ON ANY SIDE OF 12th
8/20/09 15:35:55 STREET.
8/20/09 15:35:57 WE'LL GO ALONG WITH THAT.
8/20/09 15:35:58 THEIR OBJECTION IS THAT THEY
8/20/09 15:36:01 WAIT A MINUTED SPECIFICALLY --
8/20/09 15:36:03 THEY WANTED SPECIFICALLY THESE
8/20/09 15:36:05 CONTAINERS OR I GUESS YOU CALL
8/20/09 15:36:08 THEM DUMPSTERS ON
8/20/09 15:36:08 WHEELS
8/20/09 15:36:11 LOCATED ON 12th STREET.
8/20/09 15:36:14 IN OUR COMPROMISE, WE WILL WORK
8/20/09 15:36:15 WITH YOU, BUT IT'S ALL
8/20/09 15:36:17 PREMATURE IN THE ZONING STAGE
8/20/09 15:36:20 TO E THINKER PUT OUR CON TAPERS
8/20/09 15:36:23 ON 12th OR CAKE BEER
8/20/09 15:36:24 LAND, THE
8/20/09 15:36:26 BOTTOM --CUMBERLAND.
8/20/09 15:36:28 THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY ARE
8/20/09 15:36:31 GOING TO PICK THEM UP
8/20/09 15:36:33 ON 12th.
8/20/09 15:36:36 I'M ASKING COUNCIL TO GIVE
8/20/09 15:36:41 US
8/20/09 15:36:44 SOME FLEXIBILITY ABOUT PUTTING
8/20/09 15:36:45 THEM ON 12*9.
8/20/09 15:36:48 WOMEN GO ALONG WITH THE --
8/20/09 15:36:50 WE'LL GO ALONG WITH THE STAFF
8/20/09 15:36:51 RECOMMENDATION ON THAT.
8/20/09 15:36:53 SO, THE LONG AND THE SHORT OF
8/20/09 15:36:56 IT IS THAT IF
8/20/09 15:36:59 YOU ARE
8/20/09 15:37:02 ENCOURAGING THIS SITE TO
8/20/09 15:37:02 MAKE
8/20/09 15:37:06 SURE THE REGULATIONS GO FOR
8/20/09 15:37:06 THE
8/20/09 15:37:09 ENTIRE CITY, YOU CAN'T DO
8/20/09 15:37:10 THAT.
8/20/09 15:37:11 IT'S PRETTY CLEAR.
8/20/09 15:37:12 I THINK ULTIMATELY, THE CITY
8/20/09 15:37:14 HAS TO COME UP WITH STANDARDS
8/20/09 15:37:16 THAT RELATE TO THE
8/20/09 15:37:19 REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS SO I AM
8/20/09 15:37:21 STANDING UP HERE BEGGING THE
8/20/09 15:37:24 CITY COUNCIL TO GIVE ME FOUR OR
8/20/09 15:37:25 FIVE WAIVERS.
8/20/09 15:37:26 IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE NOT ONLY
8/20/09 15:37:29 WITH OUR PROPERTY, YOU CAN'T DO
8/20/09 15:37:30 THESE THINGS.
8/20/09 15:37:32 I GUESS IT'S INTERESTING.
8/20/09 15:37:35 LET'S ASSUME THAT CHANNEL SIDE
8/20/09 15:37:37 IS RESIDENTIALLY SONDE, THEY
8/20/09 15:37:40 ARE ALL --ZONED, THEY ARE
8/20/09 15:37:40 ALL
8/20/09 15:37:40 NONCONFORMING.
8/20/09 15:37:43 DO YOU SEE WHAT I AM SAYING?
8/20/09 15:37:45 I AM JUST COMING BEFORE YOU TO
8/20/09 15:37:47 GET A FOUR COP.
8/20/09 15:37:48 THAT'S IT, BUT WE HAVE TO COME
8/20/09 15:37:51 PLY WITH ALL OF OF
8/20/09 15:37:54 THE NEW
8/20/09 15:37:54 STANDARDS.
8/20/09 15:37:56 I HAVE PUSHED THE ENVELOPE AND
8/20/09 15:37:58 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I
8/20/09 15:38:01 WILL ANSWER
8/20/09 15:38:01 THEM.
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