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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
September 23, 2009
5:01 BUDGET WORKSHOP

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09/23/09 17:02:02 >> THIS
09/23/09 17:02:05 IS SECOND PUBLIC
09/23/09 17:02:06 HEARING
09/23/09 17:02:09 FOR THE IS
09/23/09 17:02:12 CITY OF
09/23/09 17:02:13 TAMPA.
09/23/09 17:02:15 THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE IS
09/23/09 17:02:17 5.7326 MILLS WHICH IS 12.26%
09/23/09 17:02:17 LESS.
09/23/09 17:02:19 PROPERTY TAX FUNDS ARE USED TO
09/23/09 17:02:22 SUPPORT GENERAL
09/23/09 17:02:24 FUND OPERATING
09/23/09 17:02:26 BUDGET OF THE CITY.
09/23/09 17:02:27 THIS FUND INCLUDES DEPARTMENTS
09/23/09 17:02:30 OF FIRE RESCUE,
09/23/09 17:02:31 POLICE, PUBLIC
09/23/09 17:02:34 PARKS AND RECREATION
09/23/09 17:02:36 AND PUBLIC
09/23/09 17:02:36 WORKS.
09/23/09 17:02:36 >> THANK YOU.
09/23/09 17:02:39 >> COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING
09/23/09 17:02:39 ITEMS.
09/23/09 17:02:42 IN FRONT OF YOU
09/23/09 17:02:44 ARE TWO ITEMS.
09/23/09 17:02:46 ONE 15 MEMORANDUM THAT YOU
09/23/09 17:02:47 RECEIVED FROM CHIEF ASSISTANT
09/23/09 17:02:48 CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING THE
09/23/09 17:02:49 DOCUMENTS YOU WILL BE
09/23/09 17:02:50 CONSIDERING TONIGHT.
09/23/09 17:02:53 I WILL DIRECT YOUR
09/23/09 17:02:54 ATTENTION TO
09/23/09 17:02:55 THE LAST TWO PAGES.
09/23/09 17:02:58 THEY ARE A RESOLUTION THAT
09/23/09 17:02:59 MAKE
09/23/09 17:03:02 CHANGES IN THE BUDGET AFTER AN
09/23/09 17:03:03 ADOPTION THAT ADDRESSES THAT
09/23/09 17:03:05 ISSUE YOU MADE A MOTION WITH,
09/23/09 17:03:07 THE MOVEMENT OF THE $2 MILLION.
09/23/09 17:03:09 IT IS SUGGESTED THAT BE TAKEN
09/23/09 17:03:12 UP AFTER YOU TAKE UP
09/23/09 17:03:13 OFFICIAL
09/23/09 17:03:14 ACTIONS OF ITEMS TWO, THREE AND
09/23/09 17:03:14 FOUR.
09/23/09 17:03:17 AT THAT TIME, YOU CAN THEN TAKE
09/23/09 17:03:20 UP THE MOVEMENT
09/23/09 17:03:22 OF THE MONEY
09/23/09 17:03:25 ONCE THE BUDGET HAS BEEN
09/23/09 17:03:25 ADOPTED.
09/23/09 17:03:27 MY RECOLLECTION IS COUNCIL HAS
09/23/09 17:03:29 ADDRESSED THOSE ISSUES IN A
09/23/09 17:03:30 SIMILAR MANNER PREVIOUSLY.
09/23/09 17:03:33 THE OTHER ITEM IS A DRAFT COPY
09/23/09 17:03:33 OF THE FIVE.
09/23/09 17:03:36 OPEN LETTER ON THE
09/23/09 17:03:36 2010 BUDGET
09/23/09 17:03:37 AND CITY PERSON COST.
09/23/09 17:03:39 THAT IS THE DRAFT COPY YOU HAVE
09/23/09 17:03:41 ON LETTER HEAD AND I BELIEVE
09/23/09 17:03:44 WHEN THAT ITEM IS TAKEN UP I
09/23/09 17:03:44 DO
09/23/09 17:03:46 HAVE THE ORIGINAL THAT CAN BE
09/23/09 17:03:47 PASSED AROUND FOR SIGNATURE
09/23/09 17:03:47 TONIGHT.
09/23/09 17:03:50 OTHER THAN THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN,
09/23/09 17:03:53 I BELIEVE THAT IS
09/23/09 17:03:55 ALL THAT I
09/23/09 17:03:55 HAVE.
09/23/09 17:03:58 THERE IS ONE MORE
09/23/09 17:03:58 ITEM.
09/23/09 17:03:59 AS YOU RECALL, AT THE BUDGET
09/23/09 17:04:02 WORKSHOP ON SEPTEMBER 3rd, THE
09/23/09 17:04:05 CHAIR MADE A
09/23/09 17:04:08 MOTION ADOPTED BY
09/23/09 17:04:08 COUNCIL REGARDING ATTACHING THE
09/23/09 17:04:11 BUDGET SUPPLE
09/23/09 17:04:15 SUPPLE MT.
09/23/09 17:04:15 COUNCIL, YOU HAVE THE ORDNANCE
09/23/09 17:04:18 AS
09/23/09 17:04:20 AMENDED SECOND READING WILL
09/23/09 17:04:23 SUPER SEED
09/23/09 17:04:28 THAT MOTION.
09/23/09 17:04:29 YOU WILL ADOPT THE BUDGET AS
09/23/09 17:04:29 RECOMMENDED.
09/23/09 17:04:32 TO
09/23/09 17:04:35 REFRESH YOUR RECOLLECTION,
09/23/09 17:04:37 AT THE NEXT READING YOU'LL HAVE
09/23/09 17:04:39 ADOPTION PUBLIC HEARING ON
09/23/09 17:04:40 AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER TWO.
09/23/09 17:04:42 WHICH ENSURE YOU'LL GET
09/23/09 17:04:43 INFORMATION CONCURRENT WITH THE
09/23/09 17:04:44 DELIVERY OF THE BUDGET EVERY
09/23/09 17:04:44 YEAR.
09/23/09 17:04:46 THUS, MAINTAINING STATUS QUO.
09/23/09 17:04:48 I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOU
09/23/09 17:04:48 ATTENTION.
09/23/09 17:04:51 >> THERE HAS BEEN
09/23/09 17:04:56 QUITE A BIT
09/23/09 17:04:56 OF DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY
09/23/09 17:04:59 ATTORNEY, MR. FLETCHER.
09/23/09 17:05:01 MR. FLETCHER DO YOU WANT TO
09/23/09 17:05:03 COME TO THE MIC AND SPEAK ON
09/23/09 17:05:03 RECORD.
09/23/09 17:05:05 I THINK WE NEED TO GET
09/23/09 17:05:06 EVERYTHING ON THE RECORD.
09/23/09 17:05:08 >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
09/23/09 17:05:11 AS YOU KNOW THE BUDGET WAS
09/23/09 17:05:14 TRANSMITTED IN A
09/23/09 17:05:14 DIFFERENT
09/23/09 17:05:14 FORMAT THIS YEAR.
09/23/09 17:05:17 THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS
09/23/09 17:05:20 RELATED TO WHICH FORMAT WAS
09/23/09 17:05:20 APPROPRIATE.
09/23/09 17:05:22 THE BUDGET TRANSMITTED TO YOU
09/23/09 17:05:24 IN AUGUST DOES MEET CHARTER
09/23/09 17:05:24 REQUIREMENTS.
09/23/09 17:05:25 THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE
09/23/09 17:05:25 CONSIDERING TODAY.
09/23/09 17:05:28 IT WAS DESIRE
09/23/09 17:05:29 OF COUNCIL TO
09/23/09 17:05:32 RECEIVE ALL THAT
09/23/09 17:05:32 ADDITIONAL
09/23/09 17:05:34 SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET INFORMATION
09/23/09 17:05:35 AND ORDNANCE UNDER
09/23/09 17:05:37 CONSIDERATION BY COUNCIL
09/23/09 17:05:39 SCHEDULED FOR SECOND HEARING
09/23/09 17:05:41 WILL ADDRESS THAT ISSUE TO
09/23/09 17:05:43 MAINTAIN STATUS QUO.
09/23/09 17:05:46 THAT WAS MY GOAL IN DRAFTING
09/23/09 17:05:46 THE RESOLUTION.
09/23/09 17:05:49 EXCUSE ME, ORDNANCE
09/23/09 17:05:50 FOR
09/23/09 17:05:51 ADOPTION OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET
09/23/09 17:05:51 TONIGHT.
09/23/09 17:05:53 RESOLUTION FOR ADOPTION OF THE
09/23/09 17:05:56 CAPITAL PLAN THAT
09/23/09 17:05:57 IS BEFORE YOU
09/23/09 17:05:57 TONIGHT.
09/23/09 17:05:59 AND THE ORDNANCE THAT'S GOING
09/23/09 17:06:00 TO AMEND THE CITY CODE THAT YOU
09/23/09 17:06:03 HAVE UNDER CONSIDER
09/23/09 17:06:03 TO BE
09/23/09 17:06:05 CONSIDERED AT YOUR NEXT REGULAR
09/23/09 17:06:05 MEETING.
09/23/09 17:06:06 THOSE DOCUMENTS TOGETHER
09/23/09 17:06:08 PRESERVE THE PAST PRACTICE.
09/23/09 17:06:10 THAT'S THE GOAL OF WHAT WE
09/23/09 17:06:11 PRESENTED BEFORE YOU TODAY.
09/23/09 17:06:12 >> BASED ON THE MOTION,
09/23/09 17:06:14 EVERYTHING WILL BE THE SAME.
09/23/09 17:06:16 WE WERE ABLE TO MEET WITH
09/23/09 17:06:19 MR. FLETCHER AND MR. SHELBY ,
09/23/09 17:06:22 WHO HELPED GUIDE US
09/23/09 17:06:23 THROUGH THE
09/23/09 17:06:23 PROCESS.
09/23/09 17:06:25 I WANT TO ASSURE YOU, FROM MY
09/23/09 17:06:28 STANDPOINT, I'M PLEASED
09/23/09 17:06:29 WITHOUT
09/23/09 17:06:29 COMMENTS.
09/23/09 17:06:31 >> I TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT ON
09/23/09 17:06:31 THAT.
09/23/09 17:06:32 THANK YOU FOR LEADING ON THAT.
09/23/09 17:06:35 MY QUESTION, JUST BECAUSE
09/23/09 17:06:37 I
09/23/09 17:06:38 NEED TO HEAR IT REALLY CLEARLY
09/23/09 17:06:41 IS THAT WHEN
09/23/09 17:06:43 THE BUTT THAT WE
09/23/09 17:06:43 ADOPT TODAY INCLUDES THE BUDGET
09/23/09 17:06:46 SUPPLEMENT?
09/23/09 17:06:49 >>
09/23/09 17:06:52 NO, MA'AM.
09/23/09 17:06:52 THE PAST PRACTICE HAS BEEN THAT
09/23/09 17:06:55 THE ANNUAL
09/23/09 17:06:58 BUDGET AND IS SUPPL
09/23/09 17:06:59 . WERE TRANSMITTED TO COUNCIL.
09/23/09 17:07:02 WHAT WAS ADOPTED WAS THE
09/23/09 17:07:02 BUDGET
09/23/09 17:07:05 DOCUMENT WITH THE HIGH
09/23/09 17:07:06 LEVEL
09/23/09 17:07:06 LINE ITEMS.
09/23/09 17:07:07 BUDGET SUPPLEMENT WAS NOT
09/23/09 17:07:08 PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED BY COUNCIL.
09/23/09 17:07:11 WHAT WE HAVE
09/23/09 17:07:12 DONE IS ATTEMPTED
09/23/09 17:07:15 TO MAINTAIN THAT STATUS QUO.
09/23/09 17:07:17 THE ORDNANCE THAT IS ON SECOND
09/23/09 17:07:18 READING FOR YOUR NEXT REGULAR
09/23/09 17:07:21 MEETING WAS DRAFTED
09/23/09 17:07:22 TO MAKE
09/23/09 17:07:23 SURE YOU CONTINUED TO RECEIVE
09/23/09 17:07:24 SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET INFORMATION
09/23/09 17:07:27 AND THAT IT BE TRANSMITTED
09/23/09 17:07:28 WITH
09/23/09 17:07:28 THE ANNUAL BUDGET.
09/23/09 17:07:29 >> OKAY.
09/23/09 17:07:30 IT IS A LITTLE CONFUSING.
09/23/09 17:07:32 FORGIVE ME FOR BELABORING THIS.
09/23/09 17:07:35 I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT A
09/23/09 17:07:35 LOT.
09/23/09 17:07:38 I TALKED TO BOTH OF
09/23/09 17:07:39 YOU.
09/23/09 17:07:42 MR. SHELBY , THIS IS WHAT YOU
09/23/09 17:07:45 FEEL --WE TALKED --
09/23/09 17:07:46 YOU FEEL A
09/23/09 17:07:48 LITTLE SURPRISED BUT I THINK
09/23/09 17:07:51 MAYBE I JUST --
09/23/09 17:07:53 WE FOCUSED ON
09/23/09 17:07:53 THE ORDNANCE, WHICH WOULD
09/23/09 17:07:56 PRESERVE THE TRADITIONAL WAY
09/23/09 17:07:59 THAT THE BUDGET HAS BEEN
09/23/09 17:07:59 PRESENTED HERE.
09/23/09 17:08:01 I'M CONCERNED ABOUT TONIGHT
09/23/09 17:08:03 AND, PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME
09/23/09 17:08:06 AGAIN, HOW YOU EXPLAINED
09/23/09 17:08:09 THAT
09/23/09 17:08:09 TO ME.
09/23/09 17:08:10 >> WITHOUT GETTING INTO TOO
09/23/09 17:08:13 MUCH DETAIL , IT
09/23/09 17:08:14 IS REQUIRED AS
09/23/09 17:08:17 PART OF THE CHARTER
09/23/09 17:08:19 THAT THE
09/23/09 17:08:19 SALARY DETAIL BE PART OF THE
09/23/09 17:08:19 BUDGET.
09/23/09 17:08:22 THE
09/23/09 17:08:25 ADMINISTRATION AGREES THAT
09/23/09 17:08:27 IN ORDER TO HAVE THE SAME
09/23/09 17:08:28 AMOUNT OF MATERIAL COME BEFORE
09/23/09 17:08:31 COUNCIL AS HAS BEEN
09/23/09 17:08:34 PREVIOUS
09/23/09 17:08:36 IN
09/23/09 17:08:38 PAST YEARS AND PAST DECADES,
09/23/09 17:08:40 THAT IN ORDER --MY
09/23/09 17:08:43 UNDERSTANDING, IF I PUT WORDS
09/23/09 17:08:45 IN YOUR MOUTH, PLEASE CORRECT
09/23/09 17:08:45 ME.
09/23/09 17:08:48 IF YOU ADOPT
09/23/09 17:08:49 THE BUDGET
09/23/09 17:08:50 SUPPLEMENT AS YOU HAD
09/23/09 17:08:53 ORIGINALLY INTENDED IT WOULD
09/23/09 17:08:54 THEN REQUIRE A TREMENDOUS
09/23/09 17:08:56 AMOUNT OF BUDGET AMENDMENTS FOR
09/23/09 17:08:56 MINUTIA THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN
09/23/09 17:08:58 DONE IN THE PAST.
09/23/09 17:09:01 THIS IS A WAY TO ADDRESS
09/23/09 17:09:02 COUNCIL'S CONCERNS BUT STILL
09/23/09 17:09:03 REMEDY AND MAINTAIN THE STATUS
09/23/09 17:09:06 QUO, SO THAT WHICH HAS
09/23/09 17:09:09 BEEN
09/23/09 17:09:11 COMING TO YOU IN THE PAST, WILL
09/23/09 17:09:14 NOT INCREASE
09/23/09 17:09:17 NORWILL IT
09/23/09 17:09:18 OR
09/23/09 17:09:18 SHOULD IT DECREASE.
09/23/09 17:09:21 >>I'M TALKING ABOUT THE
09/23/09 17:09:21 PRESENT.
09/23/09 17:09:21 2010 BUDGET.
09/23/09 17:09:22 WHAT WE ARE DOING TONIGHT.
09/23/09 17:09:24 >> IT IS NOT NECESSARY FOR THE
09/23/09 17:09:26 LINE ITEM EXPENDITURES AND
09/23/09 17:09:29 REVENUES TO BE PART OF THE
09/23/09 17:09:31 BUDGET IN ORDER COMPLY WITH
09/23/09 17:09:32 STATE LAW OR THE CHARTER.
09/23/09 17:09:35 >> LET ME JUMP IN THERE.
09/23/09 17:09:36 WHAT THE SPECIFIC
09/23/09 17:09:37 APPROPRIATION, WHICH IS WHAT
09/23/09 17:09:38 THE LANGUAGE CHARTER USES OR
09/23/09 17:09:40 LINE ITEM THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT
09/23/09 17:09:43 THERE IS A LOT OF CASE LAW
09/23/09 17:09:44 ON.
09/23/09 17:09:46 THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THERE, THAT
09/23/09 17:09:49 TERM DOES NOT DENOTE ANY LEVEL
09/23/09 17:09:49 OF DETAIL.
09/23/09 17:09:52 THAT CAN BE $10
09/23/09 17:09:53 MILLION FOR A
09/23/09 17:09:54 CAPITAL PROJECT OR $1,000 FOR A
09/23/09 17:09:55 MOTOR POOL BUDGET.
09/23/09 17:09:58 IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW THE
09/23/09 17:09:59 BUDGET IS PUT TOGETHER.
09/23/09 17:10:02 WHAT IS IN THE
09/23/09 17:10:02 SUPPLEMENTAL
09/23/09 17:10:04 BUDGET IS A LEVEL OF DETAIL
09/23/09 17:10:07 WHICH NEVER
09/23/09 17:10:08 PREVIOUSLY
09/23/09 17:10:11 TRANSFERS WITHIN WHICH WE ARE
09/23/09 17:10:14 BROUGHT BACK TO
09/23/09 17:10:14 COUNCIL.
09/23/09 17:10:15 QUITE FRANKLY ARE DONE WITHIN
09/23/09 17:10:16 DEPARTMENTS.
09/23/09 17:10:17 THAT CLEARLY INDICATES A
09/23/09 17:10:19 PRACTICE OF NOT HAVING THAT
09/23/09 17:10:19 APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
09/23/09 17:10:20 IF COUNCIL HAD APPROVED THOSE
09/23/09 17:10:23 YOU COULDN'T NEED TO
09/23/09 17:10:25 BE COMING
09/23/09 17:10:26 BACK TO COUNCIL FOR MOVING
09/23/09 17:10:27 BETWEEN DIFFERENT POSTAGE.
09/23/09 17:10:28 NO ORGANIZATION OPERATES THAT
09/23/09 17:10:28 WAY.
09/23/09 17:10:31 YOU ALL CERTAINLY HAVE A
09/23/09 17:10:32 RIGHT
09/23/09 17:10:35 TO KNOW
09/23/09 17:10:38 HOW THAT'S SET UP
09/23/09 17:10:38 AND
09/23/09 17:10:38 DONE.
09/23/09 17:10:39 THAT'S APPROPRIATE THAT'S WHY
09/23/09 17:10:40 THE SUPPLEMENT HAS BEEN
09/23/09 17:10:40 PROVIDED.
09/23/09 17:10:43 >> MY PROBLEM IS I
09/23/09 17:10:43 HAVE A LOT
09/23/09 17:10:44 OF INFORMATION THAT, SINCE I
09/23/09 17:10:47 GOT THE BUDGET SUPPLEMENT
09/23/09 17:10:49 I
09/23/09 17:10:50 DIDN'T SEE IN THE BUDGET THAT I
09/23/09 17:10:53 HAVE QUESTIONS
09/23/09 17:10:59 ABOUT TONIGHT
09/23/09 17:11:11 --
09/23/09 17:11:14 I'M GOING TO HAVE
09/23/09 17:11:17 TO DEFER TO
09/23/09 17:11:17 CHAIRMAN SCOTT.
09/23/09 17:11:19 IT IS TOO LATE TO CHANGE THIS
09/23/09 17:11:19 TONIGHT.
09/23/09 17:11:22 I KNOW WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT.
09/23/09 17:11:23 I'M DONE.
09/23/09 17:11:25 THANK YOU.
09/23/09 17:11:28 >> COUNCIL, I WANT TO
09/23/09 17:11:28 ASSURE
09/23/09 17:11:30 YOU FROM MY STANDPOINT, THAT
09/23/09 17:11:32 YOU WILL GET TO SAME AMOUNT OF
09/23/09 17:11:35 DETAIL THAT WE GOT LAST
09/23/09 17:11:36 YEAR.
09/23/09 17:11:39 AND THAT WE ULTIMATELY GOT
09/23/09 17:11:40 THIS
09/23/09 17:11:40 YEAR.
09/23/09 17:11:43 THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
09/23/09 17:11:45 CHAPTER TWO INFORMATION THAT WE
09/23/09 17:11:46 WERE READING NEXT WEEK WILL
09/23/09 17:11:46 ASSURE THAT.
09/23/09 17:11:49 AS WE MOVE FORWARD ALL THE
09/23/09 17:11:51 INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN
09/23/09 17:11:54 IN THE
09/23/09 17:11:56 PAST WILL BE GIVEN FROM
09/23/09 17:11:57 THE ADMINISTRATION.
09/23/09 17:12:00 >>
09/23/09 17:12:00 OKAY.
09/23/09 17:12:01 THANK YOU.
09/23/09 17:12:04 SORRY TO BELABOR IT
09/23/09 17:12:07 BUT
09/23/09 17:12:08 IT IS
09/23/09 17:12:08 IMPORTANT.
09/23/09 17:12:11 >> YOU BELIEVE OUR COUNCIL HAS
09/23/09 17:12:13 MENTIONED THE ZACH STREET
09/23/09 17:12:13 TRANSFER.
09/23/09 17:12:16 COULD WE BRING THAT
09/23/09 17:12:18 UP NOW?
09/23/09 17:12:21 I WANT TO FILE A MOTION FOR
09/23/09 17:12:21 RECONSIDERATION?
09/23/09 17:12:23 OR SHOULD WE WAIT FOR PUBLIC
09/23/09 17:12:23 INPUT?
09/23/09 17:12:24 >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT --
09/23/09 17:12:27 THERE IS
09/23/09 17:12:30 A NUMBER OF ISSUES ONE
09/23/09 17:12:33 WE NEED TO
09/23/09 17:12:34 HEAR FROM THE
09/23/09 17:12:34 PUBLIC.
09/23/09 17:12:36 THE PUBLIC NEED TO UNDERSTAND
09/23/09 17:12:38 THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WANTS
09/23/09 17:12:40 COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER THE
09/23/09 17:12:43 DEMOTION MADE LAST
09/23/09 17:12:45 WEEK.
09/23/09 17:12:48 I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT
09/23/09 17:12:49 IS
09/23/09 17:12:50 BROUGHT UP AT THIS POINT.
09/23/09 17:12:52 THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT
09/23/09 17:12:53 IT SO THEY'LL KNOW WHAT TO
09/23/09 17:12:53 SPEAK TO.
09/23/09 17:12:56 I THINK THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE
09/23/09 17:12:59 THAT RIGHT TO
09/23/09 17:13:01 BE ABLE TO SPEAK
09/23/09 17:13:02 TO THE BUDGET.
09/23/09 17:13:04 SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT
09/23/09 17:13:07 ADMINISTRATION
09/23/09 17:13:10 IS REQUESTING
09/23/09 17:13:11 AND WHAT COUNCIL INTENDS TO DO.
09/23/09 17:13:13 I'M ASSUMING WHAT MR. CAETANO
09/23/09 17:13:16 IS ASK FOR A RECONSIDERATION ON
09/23/09 17:13:18 THE $2 MILLION THAT
09/23/09 17:13:19 RETRANSFERRED TO RECREATION
09/23/09 17:13:20 FROM THE ZACH STREET.
09/23/09 17:13:21 >> WE WILL.
09/23/09 17:13:24 BUT WE WON'T CARRY
09/23/09 17:13:27 THE
09/23/09 17:13:27 MOTION.
09/23/09 17:13:30 I JUST THINK WE CAN HOLD A
09/23/09 17:13:30 MOTION.
09/23/09 17:13:31 >> IF YOU WISH, THERE COULD BE
09/23/09 17:13:31 A MOTION.
09/23/09 17:13:33 IF THERE IS A SECOND COUNCIL
09/23/09 17:13:36 CAN DISCUS IT AND
09/23/09 17:13:37 OPEN IT TO A
09/23/09 17:13:38 PUBLIC HEARING OR COUNCIL CAN
09/23/09 17:13:41 JUST DEFER TAKING ANY
09/23/09 17:13:43 ACTION IF
09/23/09 17:13:45 THERE IS NO SECOND UNTIL THE
09/23/09 17:13:46 APPROPRIATE TIME.
09/23/09 17:13:46 IF COUNCIL WISHES TO HAVE THAT
09/23/09 17:13:49 ON THE TABLE MY SUGGESTION IS
09/23/09 17:13:52 TO EITHER DO
09/23/09 17:13:54 A MOTION TO
09/23/09 17:13:54 CONSIDER.
09/23/09 17:13:55 FRANKLY, IF COUNCIL WISHES TO
09/23/09 17:13:58 MAKE ANY CHANGES TO
09/23/09 17:13:59 THE BUDGET
09/23/09 17:14:00 THEY CAN MAKE CHANGES.
09/23/09 17:14:03 EFFECT WOULD BE TO SUPER
09/23/09 17:14:06 SEED
09/23/09 17:14:09 COUNCIL'S PREVIOUS ACTION
09/23/09 17:14:10 REGARDLESS IF IT IS AN
09/23/09 17:14:10 APPROPRIATE MOTION TO
09/23/09 17:14:10 RECONSIDER.
09/23/09 17:14:14 COUNCIL CAN WAIT TO ON IT
09/23/09 17:14:16 TO
09/23/09 17:14:18 THE PUBLIC AND WAIT TO HEAR
09/23/09 17:14:20 WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY.
09/23/09 17:14:21 YOU CANNOT TAKE IT UP TO MOVE
09/23/09 17:14:23 MONEY UNTIL YOU HAVE A BUDGET
09/23/09 17:14:23 ADOPTED TO MOVE IT TO.
09/23/09 17:14:26 >>
09/23/09 17:14:29 I THINK
09/23/09 17:14:31 IT IS IMPORTANT FOR
09/23/09 17:14:34 THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND
09/23/09 17:14:35 THAT
09/23/09 17:14:38 THE
09/23/09 17:14:39 ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO
09/23/09 17:14:39 OFFER COMPROMISE.
09/23/09 17:14:40 LET ME DO THIS.
09/23/09 17:14:42 LET ME JUST HAVE MRS.WISE COME
09/23/09 17:14:45 AND
09/23/09 17:14:46 MAKE A PRESENTATION.
09/23/09 17:14:49 FROM THERE WE'LL MOVE TO
09/23/09 17:14:51 PUBLIC
09/23/09 17:14:51 COMMENT.
09/23/09 17:14:53 HOPEFULLY YOU CAN LEND SOME
09/23/09 17:14:54 CLARITY ON THE DIRECTION OF THE
09/23/09 17:14:54 ADMINISTRATION.
09/23/09 17:14:55 >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
09/23/09 17:14:58 I DO NOT HAVE A POWER POINT
09/23/09 17:15:01 BEFORE YOU
09/23/09 17:15:01 TODAY.
09/23/09 17:15:04 WE HAVE HAD VARIOUS
09/23/09 17:15:06 PRESENTATIONS ON THEBUDGET.
09/23/09 17:15:07 WE HAD OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING
09/23/09 17:15:07 SEPTEMBER 9th.
09/23/09 17:15:09 I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE
09/23/09 17:15:12 INPUT AND THE WORK YOU
09/23/09 17:15:12 HAVE
09/23/09 17:15:12 DONE ON THE BUDGET.
09/23/09 17:15:15 SPECIAL THANKS TO MY STAFF.
09/23/09 17:15:17 THE THEME OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET
09/23/09 17:15:18 IS SENSIBLE SOLUTIONS.
09/23/09 17:15:21 IT REFLECT OURS COMMITMENT TO
09/23/09 17:15:21 SOLVING ECONOMIC CHALLENGES
09/23/09 17:15:24 WHILE ALLOWING OUR CITY
09/23/09 17:15:25 TO MOVE
09/23/09 17:15:25 FORWARD.
09/23/09 17:15:28 AS MENTIONED THE BUDGET IS
09/23/09 17:15:29 $754 MILLION.
09/23/09 17:15:32 WHICH IS
09/23/09 17:15:34 A 8% DECREASE FROM
09/23/09 17:15:34 LAST YEAR.
09/23/09 17:15:35 TAX OPERATING FUNDS, ENTERPRISE
09/23/09 17:15:36 FUND, INTERNAL SERVICE, OTHER
09/23/09 17:15:38 FUNDS AND BOND LOAN FUNDS.
09/23/09 17:15:41 I WANT TO
09/23/09 17:15:44 REITERATE THAT THE
09/23/09 17:15:45 MILLAGE RATE WILL REMAIN THE
09/23/09 17:15:46 SAME AT 5.7326 MILLS.
09/23/09 17:15:49 THIS IS 12.6%
09/23/09 17:15:51 LOWER THAN THE
09/23/09 17:15:52 ROLL BACK RATE OF 6.5609 MILLS.
09/23/09 17:15:54 WE ARE MAINTAINING THE MILLAGE
09/23/09 17:15:57 RATE AT THE
09/23/09 17:15:58 CURRENT LEVEL.
09/23/09 17:16:01 FOR A HOME OF $139,000 WITH THE
09/23/09 17:16:04 $50,000 HOMESTEAD
09/23/09 17:16:06 EXCEPTION IN
09/23/09 17:16:07 THE CITY, THEY'LL PAY A TOTAL
09/23/09 17:16:10 MILLAGE OF 21.575 MILLS OF
09/23/09 17:16:12 WHICH 27% OF THAT ENTIRE
09/23/09 17:16:14 PROPERTY TAX BILL WILL BE PAID
09/23/09 17:16:17 TO THE
09/23/09 17:16:18 CITY OF TAMPA.
09/23/09 17:16:21 YOU HAVE
09/23/09 17:16:24 FOUR
09/23/09 17:16:25 ITEMS BEFORE YOU
09/23/09 17:16:27 FOR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT.
09/23/09 17:16:29 AFTER BUDGET ADOPTED A
09/23/09 17:16:29 DISCUSSION ON THE ZACH STREET
09/23/09 17:16:30 MATTER.
09/23/09 17:16:33 I RESPECT MY
09/23/09 17:16:33 REQUEST APPROVAL
09/23/09 17:16:34 FOR THE CITY BUDGET TONIGHT.
09/23/09 17:16:37 WE HAVE THE 87.3 MILLION
09/23/09 17:16:39 BUDGET
09/23/09 17:16:42 WHICH IS IS DOWN
09/23/09 17:16:44 FROM LAST
09/23/09 17:16:47 YEAR'S $169 MILLION.
09/23/09 17:16:48 EMPHASIS CONTINUES ON INVESTING
09/23/09 17:16:51 IN NEIGHBORHOODS PORTION WHICH
09/23/09 17:16:52 HAS INCREASED 230% SINCE FISCAL
09/23/09 17:16:54 YEAR '03 AND INCREASED 17%
09/23/09 17:16:55 SINCE LAST YEAR TOUCHING
09/23/09 17:16:58 PROJECTS THROUGHOUT OUR
09/23/09 17:17:01 CITY.
09/23/09 17:17:04 WITH THAT I
09/23/09 17:17:07 WILL ANSWER
09/23/09 17:17:09 ANY
09/23/09 17:17:12 QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
09/23/09 17:17:12 THANK YOU, BONNIE.
09/23/09 17:17:13 I'M STILL GOING THROUGH THE
09/23/09 17:17:14 BUDGET SUPPLEMENT.
09/23/09 17:17:16 IT IS INTERESTING WHAT WE HEARD
09/23/09 17:17:19 EVEN WITH THE BUDGET
09/23/09 17:17:22 SUPPLEMENT, WHICH WE DIDN'T
09/23/09 17:17:23 HAVE AT FIRST THE FIGURES IN
09/23/09 17:17:25 THERE AREN'T --WE ARE NOT
09/23/09 17:17:28 GOING TO
09/23/09 17:17:31 HEAR HOW THOSE
09/23/09 17:17:34 GET
09/23/09 17:17:35 BROKEN UP IN THE LONG RUN.
09/23/09 17:17:36 THAT'S MY QUESTION CENTERED
09/23/09 17:17:36 AROUND.
09/23/09 17:17:38 I ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS AT
09/23/09 17:17:41 THE FIRST
09/23/09 17:17:43 PUBLIC HEARING.
09/23/09 17:17:46 SORRY I HAVE TO ASK A FOLLOW
09/23/09 17:17:48 UP.
09/23/09 17:17:51 I UNDERSTAND THAT
09/23/09 17:17:54 THERE IS
09/23/09 17:17:54 APPROXIMATELY $3.3 MILLION
09/23/09 17:17:57 BUTTED
09/23/09 17:18:00 $3.3 MILLION BUDGETED
09/23/09 17:18:05 OR LONGEVITY.
09/23/09 17:18:08 YOU TOLD ME WE'LL
09/23/09 17:18:11 RETAIN THOSE.
09/23/09 17:18:11 EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE WOULD BE
09/23/09 17:18:14 NO
09/23/09 17:18:17 OTHER RAISES IN THIS
09/23/09 17:18:17 FISCAL
09/23/09 17:18:17 YEAR.
09/23/09 17:18:18 >> RIGHT.
09/23/09 17:18:21 I TRIED
09/23/09 17:18:22 TO CONTACT ALL THE
09/23/09 17:18:24 COUNCIL MEMBERS, TOO, TO SEE IF
09/23/09 17:18:26 YOU HAD ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
09/23/09 17:18:29 THIS BUDGET IS BASED ON NO
09/23/09 17:18:31 COST
09/23/09 17:18:34 OF LIVING RAISES AND NO STAFF
09/23/09 17:18:36 OR MERIT INCREASES.
09/23/09 17:18:37 THE LONGEVITY PAY, LONGEVITY
09/23/09 17:18:40 AWARD
09/23/09 17:18:42 CONTINUES FOR EMPLOYEES
09/23/09 17:18:45 BUT HAS BEEN ELIMINATED FOR ALL
09/23/09 17:18:51 MANAGERS AND ABOVE.
09/23/09 17:18:59 >> DOES $3.3 MILLION INCLUDE
09/23/09 17:19:02 UNION LONGEVITY PAY
09/23/09 17:19:04 .
09/23/09 17:19:05 >> YES, BUT THE MANAGERS DID
09/23/09 17:19:08 NOT GET THE
09/23/09 17:19:09 LONGEVITY PAY.
09/23/09 17:19:12 >> THE OTHER QUESTION
09/23/09 17:19:15 IS;
09/23/09 17:19:17 ARE
09/23/09 17:19:20 THOSE STANDARD
09/23/09 17:19:20 ACROSS THE
09/23/09 17:19:23 BOARD, NO DISCRETION
09/23/09 17:19:25 ABOUT THE
09/23/09 17:19:26 PERCENTAGE OR IS THERE
09/23/09 17:19:27 DISCRETION BY DEPARTMENT HEADS?
09/23/09 17:19:27 MANAGERS?
09/23/09 17:19:28 OR THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT WHO
09/23/09 17:19:30 WILL GET THOSE AND HOW MUCH
09/23/09 17:19:32 THOSE WILL BE?
09/23/09 17:19:32 >> NO THE LONGEVITY PAY IS
09/23/09 17:19:36 STRICTLY A
09/23/09 17:19:38 MATTER OF HOW MANY
09/23/09 17:19:40 YEARS OF SERVICE SOMEBODY HAS.
09/23/09 17:19:42 SO, THERE ARE INCREMENTS.
09/23/09 17:19:44 THERE IS NO DISCRETION.
09/23/09 17:19:45 IT IS A STANDARD AMOUNT.
09/23/09 17:19:47 IF SOMEBODY WAS HERE TEN YEARS
09/23/09 17:19:50 IN PARKS AND FIVE YEARS IN
09/23/09 17:19:53 POLICE IT DOES NOT
09/23/09 17:19:56 MATTER.
09/23/09 17:19:56 >> I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
09/23/09 17:19:59 I THINK WE ALL
09/23/09 17:20:03 ARE.
09/23/09 17:20:06 IN THE NONDEPARTMENTAL
09/23/09 17:20:15 EXPENSES, $
09/23/09 17:20:33 2.7 MILLION --THERE
09/23/09 17:20:34 IS JUST A
09/23/09 17:20:37 LINE ITEM
09/23/09 17:20:40 IN
09/23/09 17:20:43 THE BUDGET
09/23/09 17:20:43 SUPPLEMENT ON PAGE 27 TOWARD
09/23/09 17:20:44 BOTTOM.
09/23/09 17:20:47 IT SAYS CONTENT
09/23/09 17:20:49 CONTINGENCY.
09/23/09 17:20:52 IT LOOKS LIKE
09/23/09 17:20:54 LAST YEAR IT WAS
09/23/09 17:20:56 BUDGETED CLOSE TO A MILLION.
09/23/09 17:20:59 BUT WE'VE USED ALMOST
09/23/09 17:21:03 TWO
09/23/09 17:21:03 MILLION.
09/23/09 17:21:03 I'LL CURIOUS ABOUT IT BECAUSE
09/23/09 17:21:06 WHEN YOU SHOWED THE
09/23/09 17:21:11 2007 AND
09/23/09 17:21:13 2008 EXPENSE REPORT THERE WAS
09/23/09 17:21:15 NOTHING BUDGETED FOR
09/23/09 17:21:15 CONTINGENCY.
09/23/09 17:21:16 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
09/23/09 17:21:16 CONTINGENCY?
09/23/09 17:21:16 WHY IS IT NEW?
09/23/09 17:21:18 WHY IS IT GOING UP?
09/23/09 17:21:19 >> IT IS NOT NEW.
09/23/09 17:21:21 WE BUDGETED FOR IT LAST YEAR.
09/23/09 17:21:23 IT IS SOMETHING WE'D LIKE TO
09/23/09 17:21:26 INCREASE OVER TIME AND GET TO
09/23/09 17:21:27 A
09/23/09 17:21:29 PERCENTAGE, MAYBE A ONE PERCENT
09/23/09 17:21:30 OF OUR EXPENDITURES AREA.
09/23/09 17:21:31 WHAT IS CONTINGENCY FOR?
09/23/09 17:21:34 I DON'T THINK I DID IT IN
09/23/09 17:21:34 THE
09/23/09 17:21:36 FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
09/23/09 17:21:37 IT IS FOR THINGS THAT HAPPEN
09/23/09 17:21:40 THROUGHOUT THE YEAR SUCH AS
09/23/09 17:21:43 FUEL GOING UP TO
09/23/09 17:21:44 $4.
09/23/09 17:21:46 SOMETHING REAL THAT HAPPEN HAD
09/23/09 17:21:48 THE COST US MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
09/23/09 17:21:48 EXTRA.
09/23/09 17:21:50 IT IS FOR ELECTRIC INCREASING
09/23/09 17:21:52 AND THINGS WE HAVE NOT
09/23/09 17:21:52 BUDGETED.
09/23/09 17:21:54 IN THIS ECONOMY I'M MOST
09/23/09 17:21:57 CONCERNED AND THE REASON WE
09/23/09 17:21:58 INCREASED IT FROM LAST YEAR IS
09/23/09 17:22:00 I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE REVENUE
09/23/09 17:22:03 AND EXPENSE SIDE MOVING MORE
09/23/09 17:22:05 THAN WHAT WE BUDGETED AND
09/23/09 17:22:05 ANTICIPATED.
09/23/09 17:22:08 >> THIS IS NOT
09/23/09 17:22:09 DEPARTMENTAL.
09/23/09 17:22:11 THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS DO WE
09/23/09 17:22:11 HAVE CONTINGENCIES?
09/23/09 17:22:12 >> NO.
09/23/09 17:22:13 THIS IS CITY-WIDE-KIND OF
09/23/09 17:22:13 THING.
09/23/09 17:22:14 WHEN POLICE NEEDED MORE MONEY
09/23/09 17:22:17 FOR FUEL FOR THAT PURPOSE
09/23/09 17:22:19 THAT'S WHERE WE GOT IT FROM.
09/23/09 17:22:22 PUBLIC WORKS NEEDS
09/23/09 17:22:22 MORE MONEY
09/23/09 17:22:25 FOR UTILITIES THAT'S WHERE
09/23/09 17:22:27 IT
09/23/09 17:22:27 COMES FROM.
09/23/09 17:22:27 >> RIGHT.
09/23/09 17:22:29 IT IS IN THIS GENERAL FUND,
09/23/09 17:22:30 THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE AND
09/23/09 17:22:33 HAVE BEEN PLANNING TO DO WITH
09/23/09 17:22:35 IT AND PROBABLY HAVE BEEN
09/23/09 17:22:36 DOING.
09/23/09 17:22:37 BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANY
09/23/09 17:22:39 --THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR
09/23/09 17:22:39 THAT.
09/23/09 17:22:42 I GUESS MY
09/23/09 17:22:45 QUESTION IS --I
09/23/09 17:22:48 WANT TO KNOW IF THAT
09/23/09 17:22:51 CONTINGENCY --I WANT TO MAKE
09/23/09 17:22:54 SURE THAT'S NOT USED
09/23/09 17:22:57 FOR
09/23/09 17:22:58 RAISES, OR ANYTHING ADDITIONAL,
09/23/09 17:23:01 BECAUSE OF THE
09/23/09 17:23:04 LAYOFFS WE HAVE HAD, AND THE
09/23/09 17:23:05 FACT THAT WE ARE ASKING
09/23/09 17:23:07 EVERYONE TO FORGO THEIR RAISES,
09/23/09 17:23:10 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE ISN'T
09/23/09 17:23:13 MONEY IN HERE THAT
09/23/09 17:23:16 COULD BE
09/23/09 17:23:16 USED FOR
09/23/09 17:23:16 THAT.
09/23/09 17:23:18 >> WHEN WE USE CONTINGENCY FOR
09/23/09 17:23:21 ANY PURPOSE
09/23/09 17:23:23 IT COMES BEFORE
09/23/09 17:23:23 COUNCIL.
09/23/09 17:23:26 YOU'LL SEE IT FROM THE FROM
09/23/09 17:23:26 CATEGORY.
09/23/09 17:23:27 IT WILL SAY FROM CONTINGENCY.
09/23/09 17:23:28 THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE'D JUST
09/23/09 17:23:29 TAKE FROM.
09/23/09 17:23:32 THIS IS SOMETHING
09/23/09 17:23:33 THAT WOULD
09/23/09 17:23:34 COME BEFORE YOU AT A FUTURE
09/23/09 17:23:35 DATE.
09/23/09 17:23:36 >>I'M STILL ON THE SAME PAGE.
09/23/09 17:23:39 AT THE TOP OF THE
09/23/09 17:23:41 PAGE --THIS
09/23/09 17:23:44 IS ANOTHER ONE WHERE
09/23/09 17:23:46 I DIDN'T
09/23/09 17:23:46 UNDERSTAND.
09/23/09 17:23:49 THIS IS GOING BACK
09/23/09 17:23:50 TO THE '09
09/23/09 17:23:50 BUDGET.
09/23/09 17:23:53 I THINK
09/23/09 17:23:54 IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE
09/23/09 17:23:57 IT IS IN THE BUDGET
09/23/09 17:23:58 SUPPLEMENT.
09/23/09 17:23:59 THERE IS NO LINE ITEM FOR
09/23/09 17:24:00 FISCAL YEAR TEN.
09/23/09 17:24:03 IT IS
09/23/09 17:24:06 THE
09/23/09 17:24:08 FIRST THING ON THERE.
09/23/09 17:24:09 IT IS PAY ADJUSTMENTS.
09/23/09 17:24:12 IT IS
09/23/09 17:24:14 $6.433912 MILLION.
09/23/09 17:24:14 WHICH, THAT'S WHAT WE APPROVED
09/23/09 17:24:16 A YEAR-AGO .
09/23/09 17:24:19 >> AND REASON IT IS NOT --
09/23/09 17:24:19 IT
09/23/09 17:24:22 IS NOT IN TEN BECAUSE IN
09/23/09 17:24:24 FISCAL
09/23/09 17:24:27 YEAR TEN WE HAVE NO
09/23/09 17:24:28 PAY RAISES
09/23/09 17:24:28 BUDGETED.
09/23/09 17:24:31 IN FISCAL YEAR
09/23/09 17:24:32 2009 THAT WAS
09/23/09 17:24:34 FOR THE CONTRACTS THAT ARE
09/23/09 17:24:35 BEING NEGOTIATED AT THAT TIME.
09/23/09 17:24:36 >> WHERE IN THE BUDGET
09/23/09 17:24:39 SUPPLEMENT DO I
09/23/09 17:24:40 FIND THE
09/23/09 17:24:43 BREAKDOWN OF WHERE THE PAY
09/23/09 17:24:43 INCREASES WENT?
09/23/09 17:24:46 >> IT IS NOT BROKEN
09/23/09 17:24:48 DOWN.
09/23/09 17:24:51 IT WAS FOR A FIRE, I BELIEVE
09/23/09 17:24:52 AND MAYBE EVEN USED LAST YEAR
09/23/09 17:24:54 BECAUSE WE WERE NEGOTIATING
09/23/09 17:24:54 CONTRACTS.
09/23/09 17:24:56 POLICE WE KNEW SO THAT WAS
09/23/09 17:24:59 BUILT INTO THEIR
09/23/09 17:24:59 SALARY
09/23/09 17:25:00 NUMBERS.
09/23/09 17:25:02 A YEAR-AGO WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT
09/23/09 17:25:02 THE OTHERS WOULD BE.
09/23/09 17:25:05 IT IS NOT BROKEN
09/23/09 17:25:06 DOWN.
09/23/09 17:25:08 LIKE MENTIONED, IT IS NOT IN
09/23/09 17:25:10 THE FISCAL YEAR TEN BUDGET
09/23/09 17:25:11 BECAUSE THERE ARE NO PAY RAISES
09/23/09 17:25:14 IN THE FISCAL YEAR TEN BUDGET.
09/23/09 17:25:16 >> THAT ONE ALL POLICE AND FIRE
09/23/09 17:25:16 WAS IT?
09/23/09 17:25:18 DON'T WE BUDGET FOR THAT FOR
09/23/09 17:25:19 THAT WITHIN THEIR DEPARTMENT.
09/23/09 17:25:20 >> FOR POLICE IT WAS BECAUSE
09/23/09 17:25:23 THEY WERE IN THE LAST
09/23/09 17:25:25 YEAR OF
09/23/09 17:25:27 THEIR CONTRACTS BUT THE OTHERS
09/23/09 17:25:27 WERE NOT.
09/23/09 17:25:30 >> SO LAST YEAR TWO OTHER
09/23/09 17:25:33 UNIONS WERE NOT --
09/23/09 17:25:36 THEY DIDN'T
09/23/09 17:25:36 HAVE BUDGET ITEMS FOR PAY ADJUS
09/23/09 17:25:39 . S
09/23/09 17:25:42 --ADJUSTMENTS.
09/23/09 17:25:45 >> WE WERE NEGOTIATE
09/23/09 17:25:45 ING WITH
09/23/09 17:25:46 FIRE AT THAT TIME.
09/23/09 17:25:49 >> WHY WOULD YOU NEED A
09/23/09 17:25:49 PAY
09/23/09 17:25:52 ADJUSTMENT IN THE
09/23/09 17:25:55 NONDEPARTMENTAL ACCOUNT IF
09/23/09 17:26:00 YOU
09/23/09 17:26:00 ALREADY BUDGETED FOR WHAT THE
09/23/09 17:26:01 CONTRACT WILL REQUIRE?
09/23/09 17:26:04 >> TIM FLETCHER CITY
09/23/09 17:26:04 ATTORNEY.
09/23/09 17:26:05 LAST YEAR WHEN YOU ADOPTED
09/23/09 17:26:08 BUDGET WE WERE IN PASS
09/23/09 17:26:08 PROCEEDING WITH THE
09/23/09 17:26:08 FIREFIGHTERS UNION.
09/23/09 17:26:09 IT WAS NOT DETERMINE FIRE
09/23/09 17:26:12 DEPARTMENT THERE WAS GOING TO
09/23/09 17:26:12 BE PAY INCREASE.
09/23/09 17:26:14 IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN
09/23/09 17:26:15 APPROPRIATE TO BUDGET WITHIN
09/23/09 17:26:18 THOSE
09/23/09 17:26:19 DEPARTMENTS.
09/23/09 17:26:21 COUNCIL HAD THE IMPASSE HEARING
09/23/09 17:26:24 LAST YEAR AND APPROVED ELEMENTS
09/23/09 17:26:25 OF THEIR CONTRACT.
09/23/09 17:26:28 SO, THERE WAS A LINE ITEM
09/23/09 17:26:30 THAT
09/23/09 17:26:33 HAD
09/23/09 17:26:36 DOLLARS
09/23/09 17:26:39 IN RESERVE FOR
09/23/09 17:26:40 WHATEVER COUNCIL'S DECISION WAS
09/23/09 17:26:40 THERE.
09/23/09 17:26:41 THAT'S THE PROCEDURAL POSTURE
09/23/09 17:26:41 WE WERE IN.
09/23/09 17:26:44 >> IT HELPS BUT THAT'S NOT
09/23/09 17:26:45 WHERE ALL THE $6 MILLION WENT.
09/23/09 17:26:48 PEOPLE GOT A LOT
09/23/09 17:26:49 OF RAISES THAT
09/23/09 17:26:52 WERE NOT
09/23/09 17:26:54 IN THE FIRE
09/23/09 17:26:54 DEPARTMENT.
09/23/09 17:26:57 THERE WERE BIG RAISES IN
09/23/09 17:27:00 2009.
09/23/09 17:27:01 >> EVERYTHING EXCEPT POLICE.
09/23/09 17:27:03 >> WE DON'T HAVE THE BREAKDOWN.
09/23/09 17:27:06 WE DON'T KNOW WHERE
09/23/09 17:27:07 IT WENT.
09/23/09 17:27:08 WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT
09/23/09 17:27:10 THE CONTRACT AND ABOUT THIS
09/23/09 17:27:12 BUDGET TONIGHT AND WE DON'T
09/23/09 17:27:15 KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED THE
09/23/09 17:27:15 PAST.
09/23/09 17:27:15 WE JUST KNOW --I KNOW WE
09/23/09 17:27:16 APPROVED IT.
09/23/09 17:27:18 WE CAN'T GO BACK AND LOOK AT
09/23/09 17:27:18 IT.
09/23/09 17:27:21 BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR
09/23/09 17:27:24 PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THERE WERE
09/23/09 17:27:27 SOME VERY, VERY BIG PAY
09/23/09 17:27:27 RAISES
09/23/09 17:27:30 THIS YEAR
09/23/09 17:27:30 IN 2009.
09/23/09 17:27:32 WE DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW, I
09/23/09 17:27:35 DON'T KNOW --I MEAN
09/23/09 17:27:36 WE CAN GO
09/23/09 17:27:37 THROUGH THE SUPPLEMENT AND FIND
09/23/09 17:27:38 INDIVIDUAL RAISES.
09/23/09 17:27:40 IT IS A DIFFICULT THING TO DO.
09/23/09 17:27:43 I DON'T
09/23/09 17:27:45 THINK I'D EVER BE ABLE
09/23/09 17:27:49 TO GET TO THAT
09/23/09 17:27:49 NUMBER.
09/23/09 17:27:52 I
09/23/09 17:27:54 JUST WANT PEOPLE TO
09/23/09 17:27:57 UNDERSTAND THE PUBLIC TO
09/23/09 17:28:00 UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCIL HAS
09/23/09 17:28:02 BEEN PRESENTED WITH THIS AND
09/23/09 17:28:05 APPROVED IT BECAUSE OF THE
09/23/09 17:28:07 SYSTEM THERE WERE BIG RAISE
09/23/09 17:28:08 LAST YEAR.
09/23/09 17:28:11 THAT'S WHY I'M
09/23/09 17:28:12 BEING SO PICKY
09/23/09 17:28:15 ABOUT THE THINGS I'M
09/23/09 17:28:16 FINDING
09/23/09 17:28:17 IN THE SUPPLEMENT BECAUSE I
09/23/09 17:28:20 WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NOT
09/23/09 17:28:22 MONEY THAT CAN BE USED FOR THAT
09/23/09 17:28:24 THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE ARE ASKING
09/23/09 17:28:27 EVERYONE NOT TO
09/23/09 17:28:29 GET ANY KIND OF
09/23/09 17:28:29 RAISE.
09/23/09 17:28:32 I WANT IT TO BE
09/23/09 17:28:36 FAIR.
09/23/09 17:28:37 THE OTHER THING, THIS IS NOT
09/23/09 17:28:40 QUESTION FOR
09/23/09 17:28:49 YOU --
09/23/09 17:28:52 WAIT I
09/23/09 17:28:54 DIDN'T FINISH THE QUESTION
09/23/09 17:28:54 ABOUT THE $6 MILLION.
09/23/09 17:28:56 2007 AND '08 WHERE'S THE MONEY
09/23/09 17:28:59 THAT WAS BUDGETED FOR
09/23/09 17:29:00 THAT IN
09/23/09 17:29:00 THOSE YEARS?
09/23/09 17:29:02 >> WE HAD MOVED IT THOSE ITEMS
09/23/09 17:29:05 WENT TO
09/23/09 17:29:05 CITY COUNCIL.
09/23/09 17:29:08 WE MOVED IT OUT OF
09/23/09 17:29:08 THE
09/23/09 17:29:10 CONTINGENCY AND IT GOT USED.
09/23/09 17:29:13 >> ON ALL THE
09/23/09 17:29:16 OTHER
09/23/09 17:29:18 PAGES, I
09/23/09 17:29:20 GUESS THERE ARE SOME BLANK
09/23/09 17:29:20 SPOTS.
09/23/09 17:29:23 IT SEEMS THE ACTUALS --BUT
09/23/09 17:29:26 THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU DIDN'T
09/23/09 17:29:27 HAVE PAY ADJUSTMENTS.
09/23/09 17:29:29 HOW DO WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE?
09/23/09 17:29:32 >> HR.^ SENT TO YOU A SUMMARY
09/23/09 17:29:35 OF WHAT THE PAY
09/23/09 17:29:36 RAISES HAVE
09/23/09 17:29:36 BEEN FOR SEVERAL YEARS ON A
09/23/09 17:29:37 PERCENTAGE BASIS.
09/23/09 17:29:40 WE CAN GET A COPY
09/23/09 17:29:42 OF THAT TO
09/23/09 17:29:42 YOU.
09/23/09 17:29:45 IT SHOED COST --SHOWED COST
09/23/09 17:29:47 OF
09/23/09 17:29:50 LIVING INCREASES
09/23/09 17:29:53 AND AVERAGE
09/23/09 17:29:54 MERIT INCREASES ON A PERCENTAGE
09/23/09 17:29:54 BASIS.
09/23/09 17:29:57 >> IS THAT
09/23/09 17:30:01 THE AMOUNT HOW MUCH
09/23/09 17:30:04 WE SPENT THEN
09/23/09 17:30:07 SO FAR? $
09/23/09 17:30:11 6,433,912.
09/23/09 17:30:14 IS THAT WHAT HAS
09/23/09 17:30:16 BEEN SPENT ON
09/23/09 17:30:18 SALARY PAY ADJUSTMENTS?
09/23/09 17:30:20 I'M JUST ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT
09/23/09 17:30:22 WE APPROVED LAST YEAR.
09/23/09 17:30:23 >> YES.
09/23/09 17:30:26 >> THAT'S ALL
09/23/09 17:30:28 BEEN SPENT?
09/23/09 17:30:31 >> IT PROBABLY HASN'T ALL BEEN
09/23/09 17:30:31 SPENT YET.
09/23/09 17:30:34 WE EXPECT TO SPENT ABOUT
09/23/09 17:30:35 $5.6 MILLION.
09/23/09 17:30:35 WE'LL HAVE A BETTER FEEL FOR
09/23/09 17:30:37 THAT AS WE GET CLOSER.
09/23/09 17:30:39 ANYTHING WE DON'T SPEND, AS A
09/23/09 17:30:42 REMINDER AND I THINK I
09/23/09 17:30:45 TALKED
09/23/09 17:30:48 ABOUT OUR FUND BALANCES AND
09/23/09 17:30:48 HOW
09/23/09 17:30:51 WE ADDED TO FUND BALANCE THIS
09/23/09 17:30:53 YEAR, ELIMINATING POSITIONS,
09/23/09 17:30:54 VACANT FIELD POSITIONS AND
09/23/09 17:30:57 VEHICLES
09/23/09 17:31:00 ALL THOSE MONIES
09/23/09 17:31:00 FALL
09/23/09 17:31:00 TO FUND BALANCE.
09/23/09 17:31:03 IT IS THE MONIES WE USED TO
09/23/09 17:31:05 BALANCE THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL
09/23/09 17:31:05 YEAR TEN.
09/23/09 17:31:08 ALL THE COST-SAVING ITEMS THAT
09/23/09 17:31:09 WE DID IS HOW WE USED
09/23/09 17:31:12 $31 MILLION TO BALANCE
09/23/09 17:31:15 THE
09/23/09 17:31:15 BUDGET.
09/23/09 17:31:17 >> SOME OF THE MONEY IN THE PAY
09/23/09 17:31:19 ADJUSTMENTS COULD BE ANYWHERE
09/23/09 17:31:19 NOW?
09/23/09 17:31:20 >> ANYTHING THAT GETS LEFT OVER
09/23/09 17:31:22 WILL FALL TO FUND BALANCE AT
09/23/09 17:31:23 FISCAL YEAR END.
09/23/09 17:31:25 >> SO WHERE DO WE SEE WHAT WAS
09/23/09 17:31:27 LEFT OVER FROM THE PAY
09/23/09 17:31:27 ADJUSTMENTS?
09/23/09 17:31:29 >> IT IS NOT LEFT OVER YET.
09/23/09 17:31:31 IT WILL BE BECOMING BEFORE YOU.
09/23/09 17:31:32 IT IS PART OF A RESOLUTION THAT
09/23/09 17:31:35 COMES BEFORE YOU AT THE
09/23/09 17:31:38 FIRST
09/23/09 17:31:38 OF THE YEAR TO MOVE THE MONIES
09/23/09 17:31:42 OVER.
09/23/09 17:31:53 THIS QUESTION MIGHT BE FOR
09/23/09 17:31:53 HUMAN RESOURCES.
09/23/09 17:31:56 OF THE
09/23/09 17:31:59 PAY
09/23/09 17:32:01 RAISES PEOPLE
09/23/09 17:32:03 RECEIVED DID THEY ALREADY TAKE
09/23/09 17:32:03 AFFECT?
09/23/09 17:32:05 OR WILL THEY TAKE AFFECT FISCAL
09/23/09 17:32:05 NEXT YEAR.
09/23/09 17:32:07 IF YOU CAN MOVE THE FUND
09/23/09 17:32:09 BALANCE OVER IS IT POSSIBLE
09/23/09 17:32:12 SOME OF THE RAISES
09/23/09 17:32:15 WILL BE
09/23/09 17:32:17 EFFECTIVE AFTER THIS FISCAL
09/23/09 17:32:18 YEAR IS OVER?
09/23/09 17:32:18 >> .
09/23/09 17:32:21 >> PEOPLE FOR FISCAL YEAR TEN
09/23/09 17:32:23 WILL NOT GET RAISES.
09/23/09 17:32:26 IF THEIR REVIEW IS LATE.
09/23/09 17:32:28 SAY SOMEONE STARTED AT THE CITY
09/23/09 17:32:30 SEPTEMBER 1st THIS FISCAL YEAR
09/23/09 17:32:32 AND WE DO A REVIEW AND THEY
09/23/09 17:32:35 WOULD HAVE GOTTEN A
09/23/09 17:32:35 RAISE IT IS
09/23/09 17:32:37 POSSIBLE TO DO RETROACTIVE BACK
09/23/09 17:32:39 TO 9/1 OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.
09/23/09 17:32:41 NOBODY IS BUDGETED TO GET A
09/23/09 17:32:44 RAISE IN FISCAL YEAR TEN.
09/23/09 17:32:44 >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.
09/23/09 17:32:47 WHAT IS
09/23/09 17:32:48 GETTING A RAISE?
09/23/09 17:32:51 YOU ARE TOLD WHEN YOU SIGN YOUR
09/23/09 17:32:54 PAPERS
09/23/09 17:32:56 IN HUMAN RESOURCES
09/23/09 17:32:59 DEPARTMENT OR YOU GET YOUR FIRST
09/23/09 17:33:03 PAYCHECK?
09/23/09 17:33:06 >> IF I MAY TO CLARIFY ON
09/23/09 17:33:07 THIS.
09/23/09 17:33:09 WHAT YOU ARE HITTING ON IS WHAT
09/23/09 17:33:11 YOU WOULD CALL A QUIRK IN THE
09/23/09 17:33:11 CHARTER.
09/23/09 17:33:13 IN THE ANNUAL BUDGET THE
09/23/09 17:33:15 SALARIES IN THE VARIOUS GROUPS
09/23/09 17:33:17 ARE TO BE TRANSMITTED TO
09/23/09 17:33:18 COUNCIL.
09/23/09 17:33:21 BUT CHARTER RESERVES
09/23/09 17:33:21 FOR THE
09/23/09 17:33:22 MAYOR, THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE
09/23/09 17:33:23 INCREASE AND RAISES.
09/23/09 17:33:25 THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE THIS KIND
09/23/09 17:33:28 OF A PROCESS WHERE YOU
09/23/09 17:33:31 HAVE
09/23/09 17:33:31 GOT
09/23/09 17:33:32 ONE LINE ITEM.
09/23/09 17:33:33 IT NEEDS TO BE APPROPRIATED
09/23/09 17:33:33 SOME PLACE.
09/23/09 17:33:36 THEN IT IS TO BE DEVELOPED
09/23/09 17:33:38 DURING THE YEAR IF RAISES ARE
09/23/09 17:33:38 TO BE PROVIDED.
09/23/09 17:33:41 THE FACT YOU ALL DON'T HAVE
09/23/09 17:33:41 A
09/23/09 17:33:44 LINE ITEM FOR RAISES INDICATES
09/23/09 17:33:46 THERE WON'T BE.
09/23/09 17:33:46 FOR INSTANCE, THE CONTINGENCY
09/23/09 17:33:49 RESERVE YOU HAD
09/23/09 17:33:50 IDENTIFIED IN
09/23/09 17:33:52 THE SUPPLEMENT IS BROKEN OUT IN
09/23/09 17:33:54 THE NONDEPARTMENTAL ON THE
09/23/09 17:33:57 LARGE BUDGET, THE ANNUAL
09/23/09 17:34:00 BUDGET
09/23/09 17:34:00 YOU ARE ADOPTING.
09/23/09 17:34:02 IT DOES CARRY THROUGH.
09/23/09 17:34:04 >> THIS ISN'T CONTINGENCY IT IS
09/23/09 17:34:05 PAY ADJUSTMENTS.
09/23/09 17:34:05 I FINE IT CURIOUS.
09/23/09 17:34:07 I THINK YOU NEED TO PROVIDE
09/23/09 17:34:10 WHAT WAS PROJECTED AND WHAT
09/23/09 17:34:10 WAS
09/23/09 17:34:12 ACTUALLY SPENT IN 2007 AND
09/23/09 17:34:12 2008.
09/23/09 17:34:15 I KNOW WE
09/23/09 17:34:17 CAN SEE FISCAL YEAR
09/23/09 17:34:19 TEN YOU ARE NOT RECOMMENDING
09/23/09 17:34:19 ANY.
09/23/09 17:34:20 ALL WE KNOW IS WHAT WE BUDGETED
09/23/09 17:34:21 LAST YEAR.
09/23/09 17:34:24 I DON'T THINK THAT'S
09/23/09 17:34:24 ENOUGH.
09/23/09 17:34:26 AS THE LOT OF MONEY.
09/23/09 17:34:27 IT ALL HAS GONE TO RAISES AND
09/23/09 17:34:30 SENIOR LEVEL
09/23/09 17:34:33 PEOPLE BECAUSE IT
09/23/09 17:34:33 IS MOSTLY ASSIGNED BY THE
09/23/09 17:34:36 MAYOR.
09/23/09 17:34:37 I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT.
09/23/09 17:34:39 >> THIS IS NOT JUST TO SENIOR
09/23/09 17:34:39 LEVEL PEOPLE.
09/23/09 17:34:41 THIS IS FOR THE WHOLE CITY IS
09/23/09 17:34:43 WHERE THE PAY RAISES ARE.
09/23/09 17:34:45 I DON'T WANT ANYONE LEAVING
09/23/09 17:34:47 HERE THINKING THIS IS FOR A
09/23/09 17:34:49 SPECIFIC CLASS OF PEOPLE.
09/23/09 17:34:50 >> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
09/23/09 17:34:53 >> THIS IS FOR EVERYBODY
09/23/09 17:34:54 EXCEPT
09/23/09 17:34:55 FOR POLICE IN THAT CATEGORY.
09/23/09 17:34:56 >> FIRE AND POLICE?
09/23/09 17:34:57 >> EXCEPT FOR POLICE.
09/23/09 17:35:00 >> WHAT I
09/23/09 17:35:01 SAID IS UNDER THE
09/23/09 17:35:03 CHATTER IS THE MAYOR, THE
09/23/09 17:35:05 EXECUTIVE BRANCH DOES THE
09/23/09 17:35:06 RAISES FOR THE WHOLE CITY.
09/23/09 17:35:09 >> THAT'S ALL
09/23/09 17:35:12 IN THERE?
09/23/09 17:35:12 >> YES.
09/23/09 17:35:15 SO WHAT YOU ARE SEEING THERE
09/23/09 17:35:16 IS
09/23/09 17:35:18 FROM THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
09/23/09 17:35:19 AGREEMENTS AND ANY OTHER RAISES
09/23/09 17:35:19 PROVIDED.
09/23/09 17:35:21 CERTAINLY YOU HAVE RIGHT TO
09/23/09 17:35:21 KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
09/23/09 17:35:25 IT IS DONE THIS WAY BECAUSE
09/23/09 17:35:25 OF
09/23/09 17:35:26 THE CHARTER PROVISION WHERE
09/23/09 17:35:27 THERE IS INAPPROPRIATION IN A
09/23/09 17:35:30 LUMP SUM TO MAKE PROVISION FOR
09/23/09 17:35:31 THE FISCAL YEAR.
09/23/09 17:35:34 PERSUANT TO THE HUMAN RESOURCES
09/23/09 17:35:35 PROCEDURE AND THE COLLECTIVE
09/23/09 17:35:36 BARGAIN AGREEMENTS THEY ARE
09/23/09 17:35:38 DEVELOPED DURING THE YEAR.
09/23/09 17:35:41 >> I THINK COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE
09/23/09 17:35:43 A DETAILED ACCOUNTING OF WHAT
09/23/09 17:35:46 HAPPENED TO THAT BUDGET
09/23/09 17:35:49 LINE
09/23/09 17:35:49 LAST YEAR.
09/23/09 17:35:50 I'M DONE.
09/23/09 17:35:51 THAT'S ALL I WILL SAY.
09/23/09 17:35:52 IT IS NOT QUESTION.
09/23/09 17:35:55 THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, I'M
09/23/09 17:35:58 SURE THERE WILL BE
09/23/09 17:36:01 SIMPLE
09/23/09 17:36:02 BONNIE, ON THE POLICE AND FIRE
09/23/09 17:36:05 ON PAGE
09/23/09 17:36:08 21.
09/23/09 17:36:11 WHY
09/23/09 17:36:13 IS IT IN YEAR THERE IS NO
09/23/09 17:36:16 STATE
09/23/09 17:36:18 CONTRIBUTION AND OUR
09/23/09 17:36:20 CONTRIBUTIONS HAVE GONE UP
09/23/09 17:36:22 PROPORTIONATE TO WHAT WE LOST
09/23/09 17:36:22 FROM THE DATE?
09/23/09 17:36:25 IS THAT AN ACCOUNTING THING OR
09/23/09 17:36:28 ARE WE NOT
09/23/09 17:36:29 GETTING ANY MONEY
09/23/09 17:36:30 FROM PENSIONS FROM THE STATE?
09/23/09 17:36:32 >> I'M NOT SEEING THAT.
09/23/09 17:36:34 WE ARE STILL GETTING
09/23/09 17:36:37 CONTRIBUTIONS
09/23/09 17:36:38 FROM THE STATE.
09/23/09 17:36:39 YES, OR CONTRIBUTION HAS GONE
09/23/09 17:36:42 UP SIGNIFICANTLY.
09/23/09 17:36:48 YES WE ARE GETTING STATE
09/23/09 17:36:50 MONEY.
09/23/09 17:36:53 >> IS
09/23/09 17:36:53 IT AN ERROR?
09/23/09 17:36:56 IT SAYS 2007
09/23/09 17:36:57 $3.2 MILLION.
09/23/09 17:36:58 2008 $3.5 MILLION.
09/23/09 17:37:00 2009 CURRENT AND PROJECTED AND
09/23/09 17:37:03 TEN ARE
09/23/09 17:37:04 BLANK.
09/23/09 17:37:07 >> SORRY, YOU ARE LOOKING AT
09/23/09 17:37:07 21?
09/23/09 17:37:07 >> PAGE 21.
09/23/09 17:37:10 LINE 02212.
09/23/09 17:37:42 IT IS A PASS THROUGH.
09/23/09 17:37:45 WE CONTINUE CONTRIBUTE
09/23/09 17:37:46 IT TO
09/23/09 17:37:47 THE PENSION FUND.
09/23/09 17:37:50 >> THAT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW.
09/23/09 17:37:51 THE DOLLARS ESPECIALLY SINCE WE
09/23/09 17:37:53 ARE HAVING TO CONTRIBUTE SO
09/23/09 17:37:53 MUCH NOW.
09/23/09 17:37:55 >> LIKE I SAID IT IS JUST A
09/23/09 17:37:56 PASS THROUGH.
09/23/09 17:37:57 WHATEVER THE STATE GIVE US WE
09/23/09 17:37:57 PASS.
09/23/09 17:38:00 >> I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT
09/23/09 17:38:01 IT
09/23/09 17:38:01 IS.
09/23/09 17:38:02 THAT'S ANOTHER ITEM THAT I
09/23/09 17:38:05 THINK COUNCIL
09/23/09 17:38:07 NEEDS TO SEE WHEN
09/23/09 17:38:10 SOMEBODY CAN FIND IT AND
09/23/09 17:38:12 GET IT
09/23/09 17:38:12 TO US.
09/23/09 17:38:14 >> WE CAN.
09/23/09 17:38:15 >> ONE OTHER QUESTION.
09/23/09 17:38:17 OUR CONTRIBUTION, THE CITY'S
09/23/09 17:38:18 CONTRIBUTION TO THE PENSION
09/23/09 17:38:19 FUND, POLICE AND FIRE PENSION
09/23/09 17:38:22 FUND, YOU PROBABLY TOLD ME THIS
09/23/09 17:38:25 TEN TIMES BUT I
09/23/09 17:38:26 NEED A
09/23/09 17:38:27 REMINDER.
09/23/09 17:38:29 HOW DID YOU DO YOUR
09/23/09 17:38:29 PROJECTIONS?
09/23/09 17:38:32 IS THAT SOMETHING YOU HAD A
09/23/09 17:38:35 FORMULA YOU
09/23/09 17:38:37 HAD TO USE FOR THE
09/23/09 17:38:40 FISCAL YEAR
09/23/09 17:38:40 TEN?
09/23/09 17:38:42 >> FOR THE PENSION
09/23/09 17:38:42 CONTRIBUTIONS?
09/23/09 17:38:45 >> YES, FROM
09/23/09 17:38:45 THE CITY.
09/23/09 17:38:48 >> FOR S&P AND GENERAL
09/23/09 17:38:51 EMPLOYEES IT IS ON THE REPORT
09/23/09 17:38:51 PREPARED FOR US.
09/23/09 17:38:51 >> THANKS.
09/23/09 17:38:54 I HAVE
09/23/09 17:38:56 QUESTIONS FOR GERALD
09/23/09 17:38:59 SMITH BUT I'LL WAIT UNTIL LATER
09/23/09 17:39:00 .
09/23/09 17:39:04 >> DID
09/23/09 17:39:05 WE ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF
09/23/09 17:39:07 THE $2 MILLION.
09/23/09 17:39:08 >> SANTIAGO WOULD LIKE TO.
09/23/09 17:39:11 >> I WANT TO ASK MISS
09/23/09 17:39:14 WISE A
09/23/09 17:39:14 QUESTION.
09/23/09 17:39:17 THIS THIS LETTER WE ARE
09/23/09 17:39:18 IN A
09/23/09 17:39:19 PASS WITH FOUR UNIONS CORRECT?
09/23/09 17:39:20 >> YES, SIR.
09/23/09 17:39:22 >> UPON APPROVING THIS BUDGET
09/23/09 17:39:24 IF THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL IN
09/23/09 17:39:25 NEGOTIATION WHERE'S THAT MONEY
09/23/09 17:39:27 GOING TO COME FROM?
09/23/09 17:39:30 >> IT
09/23/09 17:39:33 WILL HAVE TO COME FROM
09/23/09 17:39:33 SOMETHING UNBUDGETED AT THIS
09/23/09 17:39:36 TIME
09/23/09 17:39:37 .
09/23/09 17:39:40 >> ONE OTHER THING,
09/23/09 17:39:40 WHAT IS
09/23/09 17:39:41 REALLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A
09/23/09 17:39:43 STEP INCREASE AND LONGEVITY?
09/23/09 17:39:46 TO ME THEY SOUND LIKE THE
09/23/09 17:39:47 SAME
09/23/09 17:39:47 THING.
09/23/09 17:39:49 YOU ARE HERE FOR SO LONG.
09/23/09 17:39:52 YOU GET A RAISE
09/23/09 17:39:53 AFTER A CERTAIN
09/23/09 17:39:54 PERIOD OF TIME.
09/23/09 17:39:56 >> THE DIFFERENCE IS THE
09/23/09 17:39:59 LONGEVITY AWARD IS BASED ON
09/23/09 17:40:02 YEARS OF SERVICE.
09/23/09 17:40:03 IT IS A FIXED AMOUNT.
09/23/09 17:40:04 THE STEP INCREASE, SORRY
09/23/09 17:40:07 LONGEVITY IS FOR SOMEBODY WHO
09/23/09 17:40:09 IS AT ANYWHERE IN THE PAY SCALE
09/23/09 17:40:10 IF THEY ARE CAPPED OUT OR MAXED
09/23/09 17:40:13 OUT IN THE PAY RANGE.
09/23/09 17:40:14 IT IS BASED ON BEING HERE.
09/23/09 17:40:17 THE STEP INCREASE
09/23/09 17:40:19 IS A MERIT
09/23/09 17:40:21 INCREASE BASED ON MOVING FROM
09/23/09 17:40:22 LEARNING THE KNOWLEDGE AND
09/23/09 17:40:24 PARTICULAR JOB CLASS AND MOVING
09/23/09 17:40:27 ON UP THROUGH
09/23/09 17:40:29 THE RANKS.
09/23/09 17:40:32 THEY MAY START WHEN THEY FIRST
09/23/09 17:40:34 BECOME EMPLOYED IN THE LOWER
09/23/09 17:40:37 PART OF THE RANGE
09/23/09 17:40:38 AND MOVE UP
09/23/09 17:40:39 IF THEY GET SATISFACTORY RESULT
09/23/09 17:40:40 PERFORMANCE EVALUATION.
09/23/09 17:40:43 THAT IS
09/23/09 17:40:47 A DOLLAR AMOUNT OR
09/23/09 17:40:47 PERCENTAGE.
09/23/09 17:40:50 IT IS INCLUDED IN THEIR
09/23/09 17:40:56 BASE
09/23/09 17:40:56 SALARY.
09/23/09 17:40:59 >> THANK
09/23/09 17:41:00 YOU.
09/23/09 17:41:04 >> GOOD EVENING HONORABLE
09/23/09 17:41:07 MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
09/23/09 17:41:08 SANTIAGO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE
09/23/09 17:41:08 ADMINISTRATOR.
09/23/09 17:41:09 AS YOU MIGHT SURMISE I'M
09/23/09 17:41:11 REQUESTING COUNCIL RECONSIDER
09/23/09 17:41:14 THE MOTION THAT WAS
09/23/09 17:41:14 MADE AT THE
09/23/09 17:41:17 LAST BUDGET HEARING TO MOVE
09/23/09 17:41:18 $2 MILLION FROM ZACH AVENUE
09/23/09 17:41:19 PARKS AND RECREATION.
09/23/09 17:41:22 JUST TO PUT A LITTLE BIT IN
09/23/09 17:41:25 CONTEXT BEFORE I MAKE MY
09/23/09 17:41:26 APPEAL, I HAVE BEEN A SCHOOL
09/23/09 17:41:28 TEACHER FOR CHILDREN WITH
09/23/09 17:41:30 DISABILITIES, A MIDDLE SCHOOL
09/23/09 17:41:31 PRINCIPAL, HIGH SCHOOL
09/23/09 17:41:34 PRINCIPAL, A MUSICIAN AND A
09/23/09 17:41:35 PARKS AND RECK DIRECTOR.
09/23/09 17:41:38 I REPRESENT, I
09/23/09 17:41:41 THINK ALL OF
09/23/09 17:41:41 THE
09/23/09 17:41:44 ACTIONS THAT OCCUR WITH
09/23/09 17:41:44 THAT
09/23/09 17:41:44 MOTION.
09/23/09 17:41:45 MY REQUEST IS SIMPLE.
09/23/09 17:41:47 WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY PROVIDED
09/23/09 17:41:50 PARKS AND RECK DEPARTMENT WITH
09/23/09 17:41:52 $2 MILLION TO DO NECESSARY
09/23/09 17:41:52 REPAIRS, MAINTENANCE, SMALL
09/23/09 17:41:53 PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
09/23/09 17:41:55 IN FACT, I HAVE THE HANDOUT IF
09/23/09 17:41:58 YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT AND SEE
09/23/09 17:42:01 HOW MANY PARKS HAVE BEEN
09/23/09 17:42:03 IMPACTED BY THE ANNUAL $2
09/23/09 17:42:04 MILLION SUBSIDY.
09/23/09 17:42:06 FOR THIS YEAR'S BUDGET WE ALLOT
09/23/09 17:42:09 ED $1 MILLION FOR THAT PURPOSE.
09/23/09 17:42:10 WITH A COMPROMISE OF MOVING
09/23/09 17:42:13 $1 MILLION BACK TO PARKS AND
09/23/09 17:42:14 RECK AND PUTTING $1 MILLION IN
09/23/09 17:42:17 ZACH AVENUE WE GET BACK TO
09/23/09 17:42:18 THE
09/23/09 17:42:21 $2 AMOUNT THAT
09/23/09 17:42:22 WE USE FOR
09/23/09 17:42:25 REPARKS MAINTENANCE AND WORK
09/23/09 17:42:26 ON
09/23/09 17:42:26 PARKS AND RECK CENTERS.
09/23/09 17:42:27 AGAIN, LARGER PROJECTS OF THE
09/23/09 17:42:29 MILLION DOLLAR RANGE HAVE BEEN
09/23/09 17:42:32 A PART OF THE
09/23/09 17:42:36 CIT
09/23/09 17:42:36 CYCLE.
09/23/09 17:42:39 WE'LL
09/23/09 17:42:41 START WORKING ON THAT
09/23/09 17:42:43 FIVE-YEAR CIT CYCLE THIS
09/23/09 17:42:43 UPCOMING 2011 CYCLE.
09/23/09 17:42:46 I FEEL TO
09/23/09 17:42:49 BE FAIR WE HAVE TO
09/23/09 17:42:51 LOT OF STAKE HOLDERS INVOLVED
09/23/09 17:42:54 IN PARKS AND RECK AND ZACH
09/23/09 17:42:54 AVENUE OF THE ARTS.
09/23/09 17:42:57 IN FACT, SOME FOLKS INVOLVED IN
09/23/09 17:42:59 ZACH AVENUE OF THE THE ARTS
09/23/09 17:43:00 WERE SURPRISED IT MIGHT HAVE
09/23/09 17:43:03 BEEN ON THE TABLE AT THE
09/23/09 17:43:04 LAST
09/23/09 17:43:04 BUDGET HEARING.
09/23/09 17:43:07 WE WOULD HAVE HAD AS MANY
09/23/09 17:43:07 OF
09/23/09 17:43:09 THEM HERE TO SPEAK PASSIONATELY
09/23/09 17:43:09 ABOUT THE PROJECT.
09/23/09 17:43:12 IT IS NOT ABOUT PUTTING
09/23/09 17:43:13 CHILDREN AGAINST THE ARTS.
09/23/09 17:43:13 I REPRESENT BOTH.
09/23/09 17:43:16 I
09/23/09 17:43:18 KNOW ARTS HELP CHILDREN.
09/23/09 17:43:21 IT IS NOT ABOUT PICKING
09/23/09 17:43:22 ONE
09/23/09 17:43:23 OVER THE OTHER.
09/23/09 17:43:25 I'M FROM A LEADERSHIP SCHOOL TO
09/23/09 17:43:25 FIND A COMPROMISE.
09/23/09 17:43:27 THAT'S WHAT WE ARE PRESENTING
09/23/09 17:43:30 TO CITY COUNCIL THAT WE GET
09/23/09 17:43:33 PARKS AND RECK BACK TO $2
09/23/09 17:43:35 MILLION FOR PROJECTS AND WE
09/23/09 17:43:35 RECEIVE
09/23/09 17:43:37 $1 MILLION TO MASTER PLANNING
09/23/09 17:43:39 AND DEVELOPING OF ZACH AVENUE
09/23/09 17:43:40 OF THE ARTS.
09/23/09 17:43:42 AND THAT WE DO SOME OF THE WORK
09/23/09 17:43:43 INTERNALLY AND PREPARE THAT
09/23/09 17:43:46 STREET FOR THE
09/23/09 17:43:47 FUTURE TO ADD
09/23/09 17:43:50 ALL OF THE
09/23/09 17:43:53 ARTISTIC ELEMENTS
09/23/09 17:43:54 THAT WE PROMISED THE
09/23/09 17:43:55 STAKEHOLDERS WE WOULD DO.
09/23/09 17:43:58 THAT'S MY HUMBLE
09/23/09 17:43:58 REQUEST.
09/23/09 17:44:02 >> WE WILL
09/23/09 17:44:04 NOW HEAR FROM THE
09/23/09 17:44:04 PUBLIC.
09/23/09 17:44:07 THOSE THAT WISH TO ADDRESS
09/23/09 17:44:08 COUNCIL ON THE BUDGET TONIGHT.
09/23/09 17:44:10 YOU MAY COME FORWARD.
09/23/09 17:44:13 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR
09/23/09 17:44:13 PERSON.
09/23/09 17:44:16 >> I'M JOHN
09/23/09 17:44:16 BELL WITH TAMPA
09/23/09 17:44:16 THEATER.
09/23/09 17:44:18 I WANT TO ENDORSE SANTIAGO'S
09/23/09 17:44:18 PROPOSAL.
09/23/09 17:44:20 AS YOU KNOW TAMPA THEATER IS
09/23/09 17:44:23 JUST TWO BLOCKS FROM THE
09/23/09 17:44:24 NEW
09/23/09 17:44:24 MUSEUMS GOING UP.
09/23/09 17:44:27 THE CITY HAS MADE A
09/23/09 17:44:29 TREMENDOUS
09/23/09 17:44:30 AND WISE INVESTMENT IN THE ARTS
09/23/09 17:44:31 DISTRICT AND MUSEUM.
09/23/09 17:44:34 IN MY MIND, THROUGH THE
09/23/09 17:44:37 YEARS
09/23/09 17:44:38 AS THE CITY TALKED ABOU MAKING
09/23/09 17:44:40 THE INVESTMENTS, THE TEST FOR
09/23/09 17:44:43 ME IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
09/23/09 17:44:43 ASHLEY.
09/23/09 17:44:44 WHAT HAPPENS ON THE OTHER SIDE
09/23/09 17:44:44 OF ASHLEY.
09/23/09 17:44:47 CAN WE CONNECT THE REST OF THE
09/23/09 17:44:50 CITY TO WHAT'S HAPPENING ON
09/23/09 17:44:50 OTHER SIDE OF ASHLEY?
09/23/09 17:44:53 MY UNDERSTANDING ABOUT
09/23/09 17:44:58 THE
09/23/09 17:44:58 CONCEPT OF THE ZAC AVENUE OF
09/23/09 17:45:01 THE ARTS . ASHLEY
09/23/09 17:45:03 STREET 15
09/23/09 17:45:05 GREAT MOST THAT YOU CAN'T GET
09/23/09 17:45:05 ACROSS.
09/23/09 17:45:08 THERE IS A BARRIER THAT
09/23/09 17:45:09 EXISTS.
09/23/09 17:45:12 IF WE ARE SMART AND I
09/23/09 17:45:12 THINK
09/23/09 17:45:14 THIS IS A SMART IDEA, TAKE THE
09/23/09 17:45:17 STREET ZACH, WHICH DEAD ENDS AT
09/23/09 17:45:20 THE MUSEUMS AND DESIGN
09/23/09 17:45:21 IT IN A
09/23/09 17:45:23 WAY SO IT PHYSICALLY CONNECTS
09/23/09 17:45:27 THE REST
09/23/09 17:45:29 OF THE CITY AND ALLOWS
09/23/09 17:45:32 THE VALUES THE
09/23/09 17:45:35 CITY
09/23/09 17:45:37 IS CREATED
09/23/09 17:45:37 TO MOVE TO ASHLEY.
09/23/09 17:45:39 I CONSIDER YOUR PROPOSAL.
09/23/09 17:45:42 I APPRECIATE YOUR DIFFICULT
09/23/09 17:45:43 WORK ON THE BUDGET.
09/23/09 17:45:44 >> NEXT SPEAKER.
09/23/09 17:45:46 >> GOOD EVENING.
09/23/09 17:45:47 I'M JENNIFER FIDDEL.
09/23/09 17:45:47 I'M A BUSINESS OWNER AND
09/23/09 17:45:49 RESIDENT ON DAVIS ISLAND.
09/23/09 17:45:52 TONIGHT I WOULD
09/23/09 17:45:56 LIKE TO SPEAK
09/23/09 17:45:59 ABOUT THE PARK ANDRECK
09/23/09 17:46:01 S BUDGET.
09/23/09 17:46:03 I THINK THE MOTTO IT STARTS IN
09/23/09 17:46:05 PARKS WAS NEVER MORE CLEAR TO
09/23/09 17:46:08 ME THAN TODAY WHEN I HAD THE
09/23/09 17:46:11 OPPORTUNITY TO
09/23/09 17:46:13 BRING MY 3-YEAR-
09/23/09 17:46:14 OLD NIECE TO HER PARKS AND
09/23/09 17:46:16 RECKS DANCE CLASS.
09/23/09 17:46:19 HER FAMILY HAS BEEN A
09/23/09 17:46:19 VICTIM OF
09/23/09 17:46:20 THE ECONOMY.
09/23/09 17:46:23 THE ENTIRE SUMMER SHE'S
09/23/09 17:46:24 BEEN
09/23/09 17:46:26 ABLE TO HAVE SWIM CLASSES AT A
09/23/09 17:46:29 DECENT COST AND DANCE CLASS AT
09/23/09 17:46:29 PARKS AND RECKS.
09/23/09 17:46:31 WITH THE ADDITIONAL $2 MILLION
09/23/09 17:46:33 IT WILL HELP HUNDREDS ALL OVER
09/23/09 17:46:36 THE CITY OF TAMPA ENJOY THE
09/23/09 17:46:39 POOL, ENJOY THE PARK ENJOY
09/23/09 17:46:40 THE
09/23/09 17:46:40 PROGRAMS.
09/23/09 17:46:41 SPECIFICALLY TALKING AT JENKINS
09/23/09 17:46:43 POOL, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU
09/23/09 17:46:46 FOR WHOEVER ANSWERED
09/23/09 17:46:47 MY E-MAILS
09/23/09 17:46:47 AND PHONE CALLS, I REALLY
09/23/09 17:46:48 APPRECIATE THAT.
09/23/09 17:46:50 IN REGARDS TO ROY JENKINS WE
09/23/09 17:46:52 ALL KNOW IT WILL TAKE $300,000
09/23/09 17:46:54 TO GET IT FIXED AND INTO CODE.
09/23/09 17:46:55 WE ALL KNOW THAT ONCE THEY OPEN
09/23/09 17:46:57 THE POOL UP IT IS PROBABLY
09/23/09 17:47:00 GOING TO TAKE MORE MONEY TO
09/23/09 17:47:01 REPAIR OTHER PROBLEMS THAT ARE
09/23/09 17:47:03 UNDERLYING THAT WE DON'T KNOW
09/23/09 17:47:05 ABOUT AT THIS MOMENT.
09/23/09 17:47:08 I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU TO
09/23/09 17:47:09 FIRST
09/23/09 17:47:09 SPECIFICALLY EARMARK $300,000
09/23/09 17:47:12 FROM THE $2 MILLION OR
09/23/09 17:47:13 FROM
09/23/09 17:47:14 WHATEVER COMPROMISE YOU DECIDE
09/23/09 17:47:17 TO DO
09/23/09 17:47:20 TONIGHT
09/23/09 17:47:21 FOR JENKINS.
09/23/09 17:47:23 AND WITH A 20% ADDITIONAL
09/23/09 17:47:24 CAVEAT FOR POTENTIAL ISSUES
09/23/09 17:47:25 THAT ARE DISCOVERED WHEN THE
09/23/09 17:47:26 POOL IS
09/23/09 17:47:27 OPENED UP.
09/23/09 17:47:28 I FEEL IF WE GO ALONG AND WE
09/23/09 17:47:30 KEEP SAYING WHAT IF, THIS COULD
09/23/09 17:47:32 AND WE NEED TO WAIT FOR THE
09/23/09 17:47:34 MASTER PLAN TO HAPPEN.
09/23/09 17:47:35 THAT MASTER PLAN WILL BE A
09/23/09 17:47:37 MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT AND THE
09/23/09 17:47:40 POOL
09/23/09 17:47:42 WILL SIT THERE FIVE OR
09/23/09 17:47:45 MORE YEARS UNOPENED AND
09/23/09 17:47:47 UNUSABLE.
09/23/09 17:47:48 I ASK YOU TO ALLOCATE $200,000.
09/23/09 17:47:51 LASTLY
09/23/09 17:47:54 IF YOU COULD
09/23/09 17:47:55 PUT A
09/23/09 17:47:56 TIMELINE ON IT SO WE CAN HAVE
09/23/09 17:47:58 THE POOL OPENED BY NEXT SUMMER
09/23/09 17:48:00 THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
09/23/09 17:48:02 I ASK YOU TO PONDER.
09/23/09 17:48:05 WHEN THE DAY HAS ENDED AND THIS
09/23/09 17:48:07 COUNCIL CHAMBER IS SILENT AND
09/23/09 17:48:09 WE ARE ALL HOME IN OUR LIVES
09/23/09 17:48:11 CAN WE HONESTLY SAY WE DID ALL
09/23/09 17:48:13 WE COULD TO SECURE THE FUTURE
09/23/09 17:48:16 OF ROY JENKINS BUT PARKS AND
09/23/09 17:48:16 RECKS PROGRAMS FOR HUNDREDS OF
09/23/09 17:48:19 CHILDREN AND FAMILIES OUT
09/23/09 17:48:19 THERE?
09/23/09 17:48:19 I THANK YOU FOR THIS
09/23/09 17:48:22 OPPORTUNITY.
09/23/09 17:48:25 >> THANK YOU, NEXT SPEAKER
09/23/09 17:48:30 .
09/23/09 17:48:33 >> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBER
09/23/09 17:48:36 S. I'M A MEMBER OF DAVIS CIVIC
09/23/09 17:48:36 ASSOCIATION.
09/23/09 17:48:39 THEY WOULD LIKE
09/23/09 17:48:41 TO SEE POOL
09/23/09 17:48:43 FUNDING PROVIDED TO REPAIR THE
09/23/09 17:48:43 POOL.
09/23/09 17:48:44 BY REPAIR I MEAN TO BRING IT UP
09/23/09 17:48:46 TO CODE REGARDING THE DRAIN.
09/23/09 17:48:49 WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE
09/23/09 17:48:50 PARKS DIRECTOR IS THAT BECAUSE
09/23/09 17:48:52 IT IS AN OLD POOL THERE MAY BE
09/23/09 17:48:55 OTHER ISSUES INVOLVED THAT THEY
09/23/09 17:48:57 CANNOT PUT A PRICE ON.
09/23/09 17:49:00 THEY THINK PUTTING ON THE NEW
09/23/09 17:49:03 DRAIN TO MEET FEDERAL CODE WILL
09/23/09 17:49:04 BE $300,000.
09/23/09 17:49:05 OUR SUGGESTION AND I SEE
09/23/09 17:49:07 JENNIFER ALSO AGREES WITH THAT,
09/23/09 17:49:10 IS THAT
09/23/09 17:49:11 WE PUT A CONTINGENCY OF
09/23/09 17:49:11 20% ON THERE.
09/23/09 17:49:13 THAT'S $360000.
09/23/09 17:49:17 NOW WE ARE HERE TO HEAR
09/23/09 17:49:17 ABOUT A
09/23/09 17:49:20 PROPOSAL AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A
09/23/09 17:49:21 REASONABLE PROPOSAL TO TAKE THE
09/23/09 17:49:24 ONE MILLION FOR ZACH STREET
09/23/09 17:49:24 AND
09/23/09 17:49:26 THE MASTER PLAN AND THE
09/23/09 17:49:27 RESTRIPE RECONFIGURE IT TWO-WAY
09/23/09 17:49:28 AND ONE MILLION FOR PARKS TO
09/23/09 17:49:31 BRING IT UP TO THE AMOUNT THEY
09/23/09 17:49:33 NEED FOR REPAIRS OF FACILITY.
09/23/09 17:49:35 READING THE ARTICLE IN THE
09/23/09 17:49:37 PAPER TODAY PARKS SAID WE HAVE
09/23/09 17:49:40 $2 MILLION WORTH OF REPAIRS
09/23/09 17:49:42 JUST FOR POOLS AROUND THE CITY.
09/23/09 17:49:45 AS THE CONCERN TO US THAT JOY
09/23/09 17:49:47 JENKINS MIGHT NOT BE IN THE
09/23/09 17:49:48 LIST ON PRIORITY LIST.
09/23/09 17:49:50 NOT ALL THINGS CAN BE FIXED IN
09/23/09 17:49:51 ORDER GET IT OPENED NEXT
09/23/09 17:49:52 SUMMER.
09/23/09 17:49:53 IN ORDER GET FUNDING FROM THE
09/23/09 17:49:57 $2 MILLION THAT'S GOING TO BE
09/23/09 17:49:58 IN THE COMPROMISE.
09/23/09 17:50:01 I THINK THAT'S A GOOD
09/23/09 17:50:04 COMPROMISE I WOULD LIKE TO
09/23/09 17:50:04 ASK
09/23/09 17:50:06 COUNCIL TO INCLUDE SPECIFIC
09/23/09 17:50:07 ALLOCATION FOR ROY JENKINS
09/23/09 17:50:10 $360,000 TO MAKE SURE IT GETS
09/23/09 17:50:10 OPENED THIS SUMMER.
09/23/09 17:50:10 THANK YOU.
09/23/09 17:50:13 >> THANK YOU.
09/23/09 17:50:15 >> GOOD EVENING.
09/23/09 17:50:18 I'M CHRISTINE WITH THE
09/23/09 17:50:20 TAMPA
09/23/09 17:50:20 DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
09/23/09 17:50:21 I HAD SUBMITTED INFORMATION
09/23/09 17:50:24 ABOUT A POSSIBLE THOUGHT
09/23/09 17:50:25 OF A
09/23/09 17:50:25 MILLION DOLLARS COMING FROM
09/23/09 17:50:28 ZACH TWO-LANE AND
09/23/09 17:50:29 THE DESIGN SO
09/23/09 17:50:31 WE CAN OPEN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
09/23/09 17:50:34 AND YOU AS A COUNCIL IN THE
09/23/09 17:50:37 YEARS TO COME, CAN
09/23/09 17:50:37 MAKE
09/23/09 17:50:40 APPROPRIATE PLANNING FOR
09/23/09 17:50:40 FUNDING.
09/23/09 17:50:43 THAT PLAN CAN ALSO
09/23/09 17:50:44 GIVE US
09/23/09 17:50:45 IMPLEMENTATION OVER THE PHASE
09/23/09 17:50:45 PERIOD.
09/23/09 17:50:47 TWO-WAY IS NOT BEAUTIFICATION
09/23/09 17:50:48 BUT IT IS POINT TO THE ECONOMIC
09/23/09 17:50:51 DEVELOPMENT AS JOHN BELL
09/23/09 17:50:55 SAID,
09/23/09 17:50:55 IT IS ANOTHER STEP IN MAKING
09/23/09 17:50:56 DOWNTOWN MORE ACCESSIBLE,
09/23/09 17:50:59 INCRETION
09/23/09 17:51:02 INCRETION MOBILITY AND IT
09/23/09 17:51:03 WILL
09/23/09 17:51:03 HAVE LONG TERM IMPACTS.
09/23/09 17:51:05 IT WILL PROVIDE BETTER ACCESS
09/23/09 17:51:08 BETWEEN NEW INVESTMENTS IN THE
09/23/09 17:51:10 PARK THAT YOU HAVE BEEN SO
09/23/09 17:51:12 WONDERFUL AND SHOWN SUCH
09/23/09 17:51:15 LEADERSHIP IN HELPING
09/23/09 17:51:16 PROVIDE
09/23/09 17:51:17 FOR THE WHOLE CITY.
09/23/09 17:51:18 THIS IS CITY'S NEIGHBORHOOD
09/23/09 17:51:19 PARK.
09/23/09 17:51:21 BUT THIS REALLY CONSIDERED AS
09/23/09 17:51:24 SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR
09/23/09 17:51:25 THE TOTAL CITY'S INVESTMENT.
09/23/09 17:51:27 I HOPE THAT THE COMPROMISE --I
09/23/09 17:51:29 MEAN DOWNTOWN HAS BEEN THE
09/23/09 17:51:31 BENEFICIARY OF A LOT OF GOOD
09/23/09 17:51:34 THINGS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF
09/23/09 17:51:35 YEARS AND PROVIDED GENEROUS ALL
09/23/09 17:51:37 TO THE TAX BASE.
09/23/09 17:51:40 WE HOPE WE
09/23/09 17:51:43 CAN HAVE SOME
09/23/09 17:51:43 OF THE
09/23/09 17:51:46 MONEY ORIGINALLY PLANNED SO
09/23/09 17:51:49 DOWNTOWN CAN
09/23/09 17:51:50 PROGRESS MORE.
09/23/09 17:51:50 THANKS.
09/23/09 17:51:51 >> NEXT SPEAKER.
09/23/09 17:51:54 >> CAN WE COME TOGETHER?
09/23/09 17:51:57 >> MY NAME IS
09/23/09 17:51:57 KIMBERLY
09/23/09 17:51:57 CUMMINGS.
09/23/09 17:51:59 I'M HERE TO ASK FOR A WHOLE
09/23/09 17:52:01 BUNCH OF MONEY FOR HIDE PARK
09/23/09 17:52:04 STUDIO ON SWAN AT THE CORNER OF
09/23/09 17:52:05 ALBANY AND HIDE PARK.
09/23/09 17:52:08 I STARTED GOING
09/23/09 17:52:10 THERE WHEN I
09/23/09 17:52:11 WAS 8 YEARS OLD TAKING BATON
09/23/09 17:52:11 LESSONS.
09/23/09 17:52:13 I CAME BACK 19 YEARS AGO AND
09/23/09 17:52:15 STARTED AS A BEGINNING POTTER,
09/23/09 17:52:18 WHICH I'M LOOKING AT PEOPLE
09/23/09 17:52:20 THAT HAVE BEEN THERE AND NOW
09/23/09 17:52:21 HOW FABULOUS AND SACRED THIS
09/23/09 17:52:21 PLACE IS.
09/23/09 17:52:24 IN THE PAST 19 YEARS WE
09/23/09 17:52:25 HAVE
09/23/09 17:52:28 GONE THROUGH DEATH AND DIVORCE
09/23/09 17:52:30 AND MARRIAGES AND CHILDREN AND
09/23/09 17:52:31 DISEASE AND SHOULDERS EACH OF
09/23/09 17:52:34 OUR WONDERFUL AND SERIOUS
09/23/09 17:52:34 COMPLAINTS AND JOYS.
09/23/09 17:52:35 AND HAD BECOME A FAMILY.
09/23/09 17:52:38 LIKE A FOSTER FAMILY WE TAKE ON
09/23/09 17:52:39 NEW PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.
09/23/09 17:52:41 EVEN THOUGH WE PRETEND WE DON'T
09/23/09 17:52:44 WANT TO THEY END UP
09/23/09 17:52:44 BEING
09/23/09 17:52:46 WONDERFUL AND OR FAMILY GROWS.
09/23/09 17:52:48 UNFORTUNATELY ABOUT FIVE YEARS
09/23/09 17:52:49 AGO, WE FOUND OUT WE HAD SOME
09/23/09 17:52:52 ROOF DAMAGE AND
09/23/09 17:52:54 THAT LEAD TO
09/23/09 17:52:56 FINDING OUT THAT WE HAD SIX
09/23/09 17:52:57 MILLION TERMITES.
09/23/09 17:53:00 60% OR MORE OF OUR BUILDING,
09/23/09 17:53:03 DID I TELL YOU IT WAS A SACRED
09/23/09 17:53:05 BUILDING?
09/23/09 17:53:05 WAS SHUT DOWN.
09/23/09 17:53:08 WE WERE PROMISED A NEW BUILDING
09/23/09 17:53:08 AND NEW ROOF.
09/23/09 17:53:10 FOR THE PAST FIVE-PLUS YEARS WE
09/23/09 17:53:13 HAVE ALL BEEN, WHEN I
09/23/09 17:53:14 SAY ALL
09/23/09 17:53:16 IT IS MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY,
09/23/09 17:53:19 ALL DAY AND NIGHT, FROM
09/23/09 17:53:21 9:00 TO
09/23/09 17:53:24 9:00, 12 HOURS,
09/23/09 17:53:27 FABULOUS
09/23/09 17:53:28 TIME
09/23/09 17:53:28 THERE.
09/23/09 17:53:31 WE ARE ALL NOW IN 30% OR LESS
09/23/09 17:53:31 OF SPACE.
09/23/09 17:53:32 IT IS NOT SAFE.
09/23/09 17:53:35 DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT
09/23/09 17:53:36 AND SHUT
09/23/09 17:53:38 US DOWN BECAUSE I JUST SAID
09/23/09 17:53:41 THAT, PLEASE.
09/23/09 17:53:44 WE FALL OVER EACH
09/23/09 17:53:46 OTHER.
09/23/09 17:53:48 WE BREAK EACH OTHER'S POTTERY.
09/23/09 17:53:49 WE ARE VERY COZY.
09/23/09 17:53:51 WE NEED A NEW SPACE.
09/23/09 17:53:54 WE WERE PROMISED A NEW
09/23/09 17:53:57 SPACE.
09/23/09 17:53:58 WE HAVE THE ARCHITECTS THAT
09/23/09 17:53:59 PLANNED THE SPACE.
09/23/09 17:54:01 LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS DESIGNED A
09/23/09 17:54:05 BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE FOR US.
09/23/09 17:54:06 QUITE FRANKLY WE DESERVE IT.
09/23/09 17:54:09 IT IS SOUTH TAMPA.
09/23/09 17:54:12 WE
09/23/09 17:54:13 SERVE SMALL CHILDREN FROM
09/23/09 17:54:14 THE AGE OF THREE OR FOUR,
09/23/09 17:54:18 CORRECT ME IF I'M
09/23/09 17:54:18 WRONG,
09/23/09 17:54:18 SOMEWHERE AROUND FOUR.
09/23/09 17:54:21 THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE
09/23/09 17:54:22 IN THEIR
09/23/09 17:54:25 80s, IT IS ALL AGES
09/23/09 17:54:25 FROM ALL
09/23/09 17:54:25 COMMUNITIES.
09/23/09 17:54:26 FROM DIFFERENT COUNTIES AND
09/23/09 17:54:28 YES, THEY PAY THOSE FEES TO
09/23/09 17:54:31 DRIVE
09/23/09 17:54:33 45 MINUTES TO COME
09/23/09 17:54:36 BECAUSE IT IS A VERY SPECIAL
09/23/09 17:54:38 PLACE.
09/23/09 17:54:39 >> I'D LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL .
09/23/09 17:54:42 >> STATE
09/23/09 17:54:43 YOUR NAME.
09/23/09 17:54:45 >> CHARLES, I LIVE ON LEON
09/23/09 17:54:45 STREET.
09/23/09 17:54:46 ONE FOR LOOKING AFTER OUR
09/23/09 17:54:46 MONEY.
09/23/09 17:54:49 THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT
09/23/09 17:54:49 OF WORK.
09/23/09 17:54:52 WE ARE TAKING A
09/23/09 17:54:54 POINT WITH THE
09/23/09 17:54:55 CITY OF HOLDING BUDGETS.
09/23/09 17:54:58 THOSE CITY EMPLOYEES
09/23/09 17:55:00 AND THE
09/23/09 17:55:02 CITIZENS ARE PAYING FOR THESE
09/23/09 17:55:02 CLASSES.
09/23/09 17:55:05 THEY ARE NOT FREE.
09/23/09 17:55:08 THE PRICES HAVE GONE UP.
09/23/09 17:55:08 FACILITIES HAVE SHRUNK CLASS
09/23/09 17:55:10 SIZE IS RESTRICTED BECAUSE OF
09/23/09 17:55:10 THAT.
09/23/09 17:55:12 IT IS NOT GOING TO MAKE THE
09/23/09 17:55:15 CITY MONEY, BUT WE COULD BE
09/23/09 17:55:18 INCREASING REVENUE WITH THE
09/23/09 17:55:18 CITY.
09/23/09 17:55:20 IT WOULD ENHANCE THE CITY'S
09/23/09 17:55:22 IMAGE IN ATTRACTING BUSINESS
09/23/09 17:55:22 WITH THE ARTS PARTICIPATION.
09/23/09 17:55:24 I'LL ALL FOR THE DOWNTOWN
09/23/09 17:55:26 DEVELPMENT A LOT OF MONEY HAS
09/23/09 17:55:27 GONE IN.
09/23/09 17:55:30 IT WOULD BE NICE TO
09/23/09 17:55:31 HAVE A
09/23/09 17:55:31 COMMUNITY, RECEIVE DURING ROUGH
09/23/09 17:55:34 TIME, MAYBE NEXT YEAR
09/23/09 17:55:35 ENHANCE
09/23/09 17:55:37 WHAT WE HAVE GOING WITH THE
09/23/09 17:55:37 DOWNTOWN.
09/23/09 17:55:40 >> WE ARE ASKING FOR A
09/23/09 17:55:41 COMMUNITY CENTER THAT HELPS
09/23/09 17:55:41 EVERYBODY.
09/23/09 17:55:44 >> AT MINIMUM RECLAIMING OF THE
09/23/09 17:55:47 BUILDING THAT WE ARE
09/23/09 17:55:50 SHUT
09/23/09 17:55:54 OUT
09/23/09 17:55:54 FOR.
09/23/09 17:55:54 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09/23/09 17:55:54 >> NEXT SPEAKER.
09/23/09 17:55:57 >> I'M
09/23/09 17:56:00 LINDA CHAVEZ EXECUTIVE
09/23/09 17:56:03 DIRECTOR OF BUSINESS
09/23/09 17:56:06 CULTURAL
09/23/09 17:56:06 ARTS.
09/23/09 17:56:09 I WANT TO SPEAK
09/23/09 17:56:11 ABOUT THE ZACH
09/23/09 17:56:11 STREET PROJECT.
09/23/09 17:56:14 IN 2005 TB
09/23/09 17:56:17 CA DID A
09/23/09 17:56:18 STUDY OF
09/23/09 17:56:19 HILLSBOROUGH, PINNELAS COUNTY
09/23/09 17:56:22 AND FOUND ARTS AND CULTURAL
09/23/09 17:56:23 INSTITUTIONS GENERATED OVER
09/23/09 17:56:26 HALF A BILLION DOLLARS FOR THE
09/23/09 17:56:29 ECONOMIES
09/23/09 17:56:29 IN THE TWO COUNTIES.
09/23/09 17:56:31 IN ADDITION THEY CREATED 7800
09/23/09 17:56:31 JOBS.
09/23/09 17:56:34 WE NEED A
09/23/09 17:56:35 STRONG CULTURAL
09/23/09 17:56:38 COMMUNITY ALONG WITH A
09/23/09 17:56:39 STRONG
09/23/09 17:56:40 SPORTS COMMUNITY FOR ECONOMIC
09/23/09 17:56:41 DEVELOPMENT.
09/23/09 17:56:42 THIS INCLUDES THINGS LIKE
09/23/09 17:56:42 ATTRACTING BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN.
09/23/09 17:56:44 AND RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL.
09/23/09 17:56:47 ALL OF WHICH YOU
09/23/09 17:56:50 ALL
09/23/09 17:56:50 CERTAINLY
09/23/09 17:56:53 KNOW BETTER THAN
09/23/09 17:56:54 I ARE VERY
09/23/09 17:56:56 IMPORTANT FOR THE FUTURE GROWTH
09/23/09 17:56:57 OF TAMPA.
09/23/09 17:56:59 IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ALSO
09/23/09 17:57:00 NEED ARTS DOWN.
09/23/09 17:57:02 SO THAT PEOPLE WILL GO TO
09/23/09 17:57:04 RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL AND ALL
09/23/09 17:57:05 OF THAT SORT OF THING.
09/23/09 17:57:07 WE NEED IT BECAUSE OF
09/23/09 17:57:07 CONVENTIONS.
09/23/09 17:57:09 THEY ARE A MAJOR ISSUE FOR US.
09/23/09 17:57:12 THEY ARE MORE LIKELY
09/23/09 17:57:12 TO COME
09/23/09 17:57:14 AND TO STAY LONGER AT THESE
09/23/09 17:57:17 EVENTS IF THEY HAVE A LOT OF
09/23/09 17:57:20 ACTIVITIES TO DO AND CONNECTED
09/23/09 17:57:22 WITH THAT IS TOURISM.
09/23/09 17:57:24 IF WE WANT TO DEVELOP OUR
09/23/09 17:57:27 TOURISM INDUSTRY WE NEED
09/23/09 17:57:27 A
09/23/09 17:57:27 STRONG CULTURAL COMMUNITY.
09/23/09 17:57:29 WHAT WE NEED IS THIS BALANCE.
09/23/09 17:57:31 JUST FOR A LITTLE FACT I'D LIKE
09/23/09 17:57:34 TO TELL YOU, BECAUSE I KEEP
09/23/09 17:57:36 TRACK OF THESE THINGS BY 2010
09/23/09 17:57:37 AFTER THE CHILDREN'S MUSEUM
09/23/09 17:57:40 OPENS THERE WILL BE
09/23/09 17:57:42 OVER 20
09/23/09 17:57:43 CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS IN
09/23/09 17:57:43 DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
09/23/09 17:57:44 THAT'S A HUGE CONCENTRATION.
09/23/09 17:57:48 THAT'S FROM
09/23/09 17:57:51 UNIVERSITY
09/23/09 17:57:54 OF TAMPA
09/23/09 17:57:54 THROUGH THE CENTRAL DISTRICT
09/23/09 17:57:57 INTO THE CHANNEL DRINKING
09/23/09 17:57:59 DISTRICT.
09/23/09 17:58:02 I SEE ZACH
09/23/09 17:58:04 STREET AS ACCESS
09/23/09 17:58:07 THAT RUNS FROM THE MUSEUMS UP
09/23/09 17:58:09 THROUGH TO UNION STATION AND AS
09/23/09 17:58:11 A MAJOR POINT OF INTEREST FOR
09/23/09 17:58:13 ALL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, NOT
09/23/09 17:58:14 MENTION JUST DOWNTOWN
09/23/09 17:58:14 REDEVELOPMENT.
09/23/09 17:58:15 YOU HAVE SEEN THE WONDERFUL
09/23/09 17:58:17 ARTWORK THAT ART HAS DONE.
09/23/09 17:58:19 THAT HAS ADDED A GREAT DEAL TO
09/23/09 17:58:20 THE CITY.
09/23/09 17:58:23 WE
09/23/09 17:58:25 NEED TO CONTINUE THAT
09/23/09 17:58:25 PROCESS.
09/23/09 17:58:25 THANK YOU.
09/23/09 17:58:28 >> THANK YOU
09/23/09 17:58:29 .
09/23/09 17:58:32 >> CHRIS FIDEL
09/23/09 17:58:33 RESIDENT AND
09/23/09 17:58:34 BUSINESS OWNER ON DAVIS ISLAND.
09/23/09 17:58:37 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE
09/23/09 17:58:40 COUNCIL FOR THE $2 MILLION FOR
09/23/09 17:58:41 THE IMPROVEMENT BUDGET.
09/23/09 17:58:42 THIS BEING SAID I HAVE BEEN
09/23/09 17:58:42 CONCERNED THAT THE
09/23/09 17:58:44 ADMINISTRATION WOULD HAVE YOU
09/23/09 17:58:45 RECONSIDER YOUR DECISION THAT
09/23/09 17:58:46 YOU MADE TWO WEEKS AGO.
09/23/09 17:58:49 I GUESS
09/23/09 17:58:52 WE ARE FINDING OUT
09/23/09 17:58:53 TONIGHT THAT MY CONCERNS WERE
09/23/09 17:58:53 FOUNDED.
09/23/09 17:58:55 THESE INDIVIDUALS WOULD HAVE
09/23/09 17:58:58 YOU BELIEVE SPLITTING THE MONEY
09/23/09 17:58:59 UP BETWEEN THE PARKS AND
09/23/09 17:59:01 RECREATIONS PROJECT AND
09/23/09 17:59:03 PROPOSED ZACH STREET CONCEPT
09/23/09 17:59:05 WOULD BE A GREAT COMPROMISE.
09/23/09 17:59:08 I DISAGREE WITH THAT
09/23/09 17:59:08 ASSESSMENT.
09/23/09 17:59:11 I AGREE WITH COMPROMISES BUT
09/23/09 17:59:11 NOT IN THIS SITUATION.
09/23/09 17:59:13 LET ME PROVIDE A QUICK EXAMPLE.
09/23/09 17:59:16 IF YOU HAVE NEED TO
09/23/09 17:59:16 BUILD TWO
09/23/09 17:59:19 BRIDGES BUT ONLY FUNDS TO BUILD
09/23/09 17:59:21 ONE WOULD YOU SPLIT THE MONEY
09/23/09 17:59:24 AND BUILD EACH BRIDGE
09/23/09 17:59:24 HALF WAY?
09/23/09 17:59:26 NEARBY NEITHER BRIDGE ABLE TO
09/23/09 17:59:27 SERVE ITS PURPOSE.
09/23/09 17:59:28 I BELIEVE TO FULLY FUND THE
09/23/09 17:59:29 BUILDING AND PROVIDE FUNDING
09/23/09 17:59:32 FOR SECOND BRIDGE IN THE
09/23/09 17:59:32 FUTURE.
09/23/09 17:59:34 THAT'S WHAT WE ASK HERE.
09/23/09 17:59:36 IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION
09/23/09 17:59:38 THERE IS NO HALF AND HALF
09/23/09 17:59:38 SOLUTION.
09/23/09 17:59:39 VITAL PROJECTS ARE IN THE
09/23/09 17:59:40 NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE BEEN
09/23/09 17:59:43 NEGLECTED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS
09/23/09 17:59:46 AND THEY NEED FULL FUNDING TO
09/23/09 17:59:47 BE ACCOMPLISH.
09/23/09 17:59:49 WE ASK THE COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE
09/23/09 17:59:51 FOLLOWING RESOLUTION.
09/23/09 17:59:52 SPECIFICALLY EARMARK $300,000
09/23/09 17:59:54 TO GO TOWARDS IMPROVEMENTS OF
09/23/09 17:59:57 THE THE ROY
09/23/09 17:59:59 JENKINS POOL.
09/23/09 18:00:02 MEET NEEDS OF BAKER ACT AND
09/23/09 18:00:03 ADDRESS POTENTIAL TURNOVER
09/23/09 18:00:05 CONCERNS RAISED BY THE PARK'S
09/23/09 18:00:06 DEPARTMENT.
09/23/09 18:00:08 IDENTIFY 20% FOR POTENTIAL
09/23/09 18:00:10 ISSUES THAT COULD ARISE IN THE
09/23/09 18:00:11 PARKS DEPARTMENT.
09/23/09 18:00:12 MONIES NOT UTILIZED WOULD GO
09/23/09 18:00:15 BACK INTO THE GENERAL TWO
09/23/09 18:00:15 MILLION.
09/23/09 18:00:18 FINALLY A SET OF
09/23/09 18:00:18 DEADLINES FOR
09/23/09 18:00:21 THE
09/23/09 18:00:23 PARKS DEPARTMENT TO
09/23/09 18:00:24 COMPLETE INROME --IMPROVEMENTS
09/23/09 18:00:27 TO ROY JENKINS TO BE OPENED BY
09/23/09 18:00:27 2010.
09/23/09 18:00:30 IT IS TIME TO STEP FORWARD AND
09/23/09 18:00:31 PROPERLY FUND THIS COMMUNITY
09/23/09 18:00:32 INVESTMENT.
09/23/09 18:00:35 NOW IS THE TIME
09/23/09 18:00:35 YOU SHOW
09/23/09 18:00:36 COMMITMENT TO TAMPA
09/23/09 18:00:38 NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE STRONGEST
09/23/09 18:00:41 PASSION
09/23/09 18:00:43 POSSIBLE.
09/23/09 18:00:45 THAT'S THROUGH FUNDING.
09/23/09 18:00:47 THANK YOU, I LOOK FORWARD TO
09/23/09 18:00:49 YOUR SUPPORT.
09/23/09 18:00:51 >> MY NAME IS JOSH.
09/23/09 18:00:53 I'M PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA
09/23/09 18:00:54 INDEPENDENT BUSINESS ALLIANCE.
09/23/09 18:00:57 AS THE GROUP OF 115 LOCAL
09/23/09 18:01:00 BUSINESSES OWNED AND OPERATED
09/23/09 18:01:00 IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
09/23/09 18:01:01 IT IS HARD TO STAND HERE AND
09/23/09 18:01:03 TALK ABOUT DOING GREAT THINGS
09/23/09 18:01:06 FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS
09/23/09 18:01:06 BECAUSE
09/23/09 18:01:07 WE WANT THAT.
09/23/09 18:01:10 BUT I'M HEAR TO SUPPORT
09/23/09 18:01:10 THE
09/23/09 18:01:11 LOCAL INDEPENDANT BUSINESSES
09/23/09 18:01:13 AND THE STAKEHOLDERS IN
09/23/09 18:01:13 DOWNTOWN.
09/23/09 18:01:15 WE HAVE SEEN SO MANY GREAT
09/23/09 18:01:18 BENEFITS COMING FROM THE
09/23/09 18:01:19 CITY.
09/23/09 18:01:21 WE ARE SEEING POTENTIAL AND
09/23/09 18:01:23 MOMENTUM THERE.
09/23/09 18:01:24 I WOULD HATE TO SEE THE
09/23/09 18:01:25 MOMENTUM SLOW DOWN.
09/23/09 18:01:28 I'M HERE TO VOICE THE SUPPORT
09/23/09 18:01:31 FOR THE APPROPRIATION
09/23/09 18:01:32 FOR THE
09/23/09 18:01:32 ZACH STREET.
09/23/09 18:01:32 THANK YOU.
09/23/09 18:01:35 >>
09/23/09 18:01:37 THANK YOU, SIR.
09/23/09 18:01:40 GAVE COUNCIL MEMBER
09/23/09 18:01:44 .
09/23/09 18:01:47 >> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL
09/23/09 18:01:49 MEMBER.
09/23/09 18:01:50 YESTERDAY AS I WAS WALK FROM MY
09/23/09 18:01:53 HOME OVER
09/23/09 18:01:55 LUNCH AN ORIENTAL
09/23/09 18:01:57 COUPLE STOPPED ME AND ASKED ME
09/23/09 18:01:59 WHERE THE STREET TROLLEY STOP
09/23/09 18:02:00 WAS.
09/23/09 18:02:02 I FELT PROUD AS THEY PULLED OUT
09/23/09 18:02:05 BROCHURES AND VISITORS
09/23/09 18:02:05 WERE
09/23/09 18:02:06 COMING TO DOWNTOWN.
09/23/09 18:02:07 IT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO
09/23/09 18:02:07 SUPPORT.
09/23/09 18:02:09 IT IS A VISION PROMISED TO US
09/23/09 18:02:11 TWO YEARS AGO AND WE ARE SEEING
09/23/09 18:02:13 THESE THINGS COME TOGETHER.
09/23/09 18:02:16 IT IS NOT TIME TO STOP HALF
09/23/09 18:02:17 WAY.
09/23/09 18:02:19 IT IS TIME TO FUND IT.
09/23/09 18:02:20 I SUPPORT SANTIAGO'S
09/23/09 18:02:20 SUGGESTION.
09/23/09 18:02:22 IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE
09/23/09 18:02:25 CONTINUE TO
09/23/09 18:02:27 SUPPORT AND NOT DO
09/23/09 18:02:30 HALF WAY.
09/23/09 18:02:33 SIX MONTHS
09/23/09 18:02:35 AGO WE WERE TALKING
09/23/09 18:02:38 ABOUT A FUNDING TO THE DOG
09/23/09 18:02:38 PARK.
09/23/09 18:02:41 I WOULD ASK THAT THE FUNDING
09/23/09 18:02:41 BE
09/23/09 18:02:41 RESTORED.
09/23/09 18:02:44 WE ARE TURNING OVER THE
09/23/09 18:02:47 BUILDING TO THE RESIDENTS
09/23/09 18:02:48 DECEMBER 15th.
09/23/09 18:02:49 DEVELOPER COMPLETED A PROJECT
09/23/09 18:02:49 IN TAMPA.
09/23/09 18:02:52 WE APPLAUD HIM FOR THAT.
09/23/09 18:02:55 THERE IS 82 DOG OWNERS AT
09/23/09 18:02:56 SKY
09/23/09 18:02:57 POINT AND PROBABLY AN EQUAL
09/23/09 18:02:59 NUMBER COMING IN ELEMENT.
09/23/09 18:03:01 THAT'S A LOT OF DOGS IN A SMALL
09/23/09 18:03:01 SPACE.
09/23/09 18:03:04 IF THERE IS ANY WAY TO GET
09/23/09 18:03:07 FUNDING FOR THE DOG PARK, I
09/23/09 18:03:09 NOTICED IN CIT THERE IS
09/23/09 18:03:10 $200,000 FOR PEDESTRIAN
09/23/09 18:03:10 WALKWAYS.
09/23/09 18:03:12 WHEN SOME OF MY FRIEND OR
09/23/09 18:03:15 RELATIVES COME FROM OUT OF TOWN
09/23/09 18:03:16 AND SEE DIGITS COUNTING DOWN IT
09/23/09 18:03:18 GIVES YOU AN IDEA YOU HAVE TO
09/23/09 18:03:21 HURRY UP AND CROSS THE STREET.
09/23/09 18:03:22 AS THE SAFETY ISSUE AND NICE
09/23/09 18:03:22 FEATURE.
09/23/09 18:03:24 IS THERE ANY WAY TO SWAP THAT
09/23/09 18:03:26 OUT FOR THE DOG PARK AND WE
09/23/09 18:03:27 COULD HAVE A GOOD OPENING I
09/23/09 18:03:28 THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
09/23/09 18:03:31 I DON'T OWN A DOG BUT I
09/23/09 18:03:31 SPEAK
09/23/09 18:03:33 ON BEHALF OF THEM BECAUSE THEY
09/23/09 18:03:35 DON'T HAVE A VOICE THEMSELVES.
09/23/09 18:03:38 THE LAST POINT IS YOU HAVE A
09/23/09 18:03:40 TOUGH JOB, BALANCE PUBLIC
09/23/09 18:03:40 SAFETY, BALANCING ECONOMIC
09/23/09 18:03:42 ENGINE OR WHAT WILL BENEFIT THE
09/23/09 18:03:43 CITY AND PUBLIC SERVICE.
09/23/09 18:03:46 I KNOW
09/23/09 18:03:47 WE WENT THROUGH THE SAME
09/23/09 18:03:47 ISSUE WITH THE COUNCIL.
09/23/09 18:03:49 SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO GIVE A
09/23/09 18:03:52 LITTLE TO GET A LITTLE.
09/23/09 18:03:54 IF YOU ARE GETTING A PUBLIC
09/23/09 18:03:55 SERVICE PARK OR POOL SOMETIMES
09/23/09 18:03:57 YOU HAVE TO PAY A FEE.
09/23/09 18:03:58 EVEN A PARK THAT IS A
09/23/09 18:04:00 MEMBERSHIP OR CARD TO GAIN
09/23/09 18:04:03 ACCESS I THINK THERE COULD BE A
09/23/09 18:04:06 COMPROMISE WHERE PEOPLE COULD
09/23/09 18:04:08 ENJOY THE SERVICE AND SHARE THE
09/23/09 18:04:11 COSTS, IF NOT THAT FEE
09/23/09 18:04:12 CAN BE
09/23/09 18:04:13 WAIVED.
09/23/09 18:04:14 LASTLY, IN THE DISCUSSION I
09/23/09 18:04:15 HEARD BEFORE WHEN COUCILWOMAN
09/23/09 18:04:18 MULHERN WAS TALKING ABOUT THE
09/23/09 18:04:20 BUDGET, I DON'T THINK YOU
09/23/09 18:04:22 SHOULD APPROVE A BUDGET UNLESS
09/23/09 18:04:23 EVERY QUESTION IS ANSWERED.
09/23/09 18:04:25 IT IS STRIKING TO HEAR
09/23/09 18:04:27 SUPPLEMENT DETAILS WILL COME
09/23/09 18:04:30 AFTER IT IS APPROVED AS
09/23/09 18:04:31 A
09/23/09 18:04:32 JUSTIFICATION THAT WE HAVE
09/23/09 18:04:35 ALWAYS DONE IT THIS WAY.
09/23/09 18:04:37 YOU SHOULDN'T APPROVE SOMETHING
09/23/09 18:04:38 UNLESS EVERY QUESTION HAS BEEN
09/23/09 18:04:39 ANSWERED SATISFACTORILY WHETHER
09/23/09 18:04:42 IT IS IN A DOCUMENT OR CHARTER.
09/23/09 18:04:43 I THINK YOU SHOULD GET YOUR
09/23/09 18:04:45 QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND MAKE THE
09/23/09 18:04:46 RIGHT DECISION FOR THE CITY.
09/23/09 18:04:49 >> CAN I ASK
09/23/09 18:04:52 THIS GENTLEMEN A
09/23/09 18:04:52 QUESTION?
09/23/09 18:04:56 >> WRITE IT DOWN AND COME
09/23/09 18:04:59 BACK
09/23/09 18:05:00 LATER.
09/23/09 18:05:00 >> .
09/23/09 18:05:00 >> I'M JEFF HICKS.
09/23/09 18:05:04 PRESIDENT OF
09/23/09 18:05:04 THE DOORING GROUP.
09/23/09 18:05:07 I'M IN FAVOR OF THE
09/23/09 18:05:09 ZACH STREET
09/23/09 18:05:12 WIDENING
09/23/09 18:05:13 OR THE TWO-LANE.
09/23/09 18:05:15 ALSO IN THE BUILDING IS 514
09/23/09 18:05:15 FRANKLIN.
09/23/09 18:05:18 TWO-LANE WHEN IT WAS ANNOUNCED
09/23/09 18:05:21 I THOUGHT WHAT CAN IT
09/23/09 18:05:22 DO?
09/23/09 18:05:25 IT IMPACTED THE WALKABILITY OF
09/23/09 18:05:28 THE
09/23/09 18:05:30 STREETS.
09/23/09 18:05:30 FOR EXAMPLE, INDIGOCOFFEE AND
09/23/09 18:05:30 THE ITALIAN RESTAURANT, JIMMY
09/23/09 18:05:34 JOHNS,
09/23/09 18:05:34 GOOD STUFF.
09/23/09 18:05:37 THOSE ARE
09/23/09 18:05:39 THREE LITTLE
09/23/09 18:05:39 BUSINESSES.
09/23/09 18:05:42 BUT FOR TAMPA IT IS BABY
09/23/09 18:05:42 STEPS.
09/23/09 18:05:44 FROM THE OUTSIDE LOOK IN TWO-
09/23/09 18:05:46 WAY WHAT CAN IT DO.
09/23/09 18:05:49 IT SLOWS DOWN TRAFFIC AND
09/23/09 18:05:50 PEOPLE SEE A RESTAURANT.
09/23/09 18:05:51 THANK YOU.
09/23/09 18:05:53 >> NEXT SPEAKER.
09/23/09 18:05:55 >> HARRY HEDGES AT 577 ON DAVIS
09/23/09 18:05:55 ISLAND.
09/23/09 18:05:58 WE HAVE PROPERTY DOWNTOWN
09/23/09 18:06:00 AND
09/23/09 18:06:01 GETTING READY TO DEVELOP SOME
09/23/09 18:06:01 MORE.
09/23/09 18:06:02 BY SUPPORTING ZACH STREET
09/23/09 18:06:03 PROJECT, WE ARE LEVERAGING ON
09/23/09 18:06:06 WHAT WE HAVE
09/23/09 18:06:09 ALREADY
09/23/09 18:06:13 INVESTED
09/23/09 18:06:14 AS A CITY IN THE PARK.
09/23/09 18:06:17 THIS BECOMES AN
09/23/09 18:06:18 INTRY CALL PART
09/23/09 18:06:18 OF THAT.
09/23/09 18:06:21 IT
09/23/09 18:06:23 PROJECTS PEDESTRIAN AND GETS
09/23/09 18:06:26 WALKABILITY AND LIFE TO OUR
09/23/09 18:06:32 CITY.
09/23/09 18:06:47 I'M ASKING YOU
09/23/09 18:06:49 TO CONSIDER
09/23/09 18:06:52 LEVERAGING ON WHAT
09/23/09 18:06:54 YOU HAVE
09/23/09 18:06:57 FUNNED --FUNDED DOWNTOWN.
09/23/09 18:06:58 NOW THAT YOU HAVE AN AMOUNT OF
09/23/09 18:07:00 PRIVATE SECTOR, LET'S CAPELIZE
09/23/09 18:07:03 AND MAKE THIS A
09/23/09 18:07:05 WIN WIN FOR ALL
09/23/09 18:07:05 OF US.
09/23/09 18:07:08 THANK YOU FOR YOUR
09/23/09 18:07:14 TIME.
09/23/09 18:07:44 >>> REAL ESTATE WOMEN INVESTED
09/23/09 18:07:47 $30
09/23/09 18:07:50 MILLION MADE THE COMMITMENT
09/23/09 18:07:50 TO NEXT YEAR.
09/23/09 18:07:52 THIS YEAR THEIR FOCUS WAS
09/23/09 18:07:54 SUPPOSED TO BE ZACH BECAUSE THE
09/23/09 18:07:55 PLANS WERE MOVING FORWARD.
09/23/09 18:07:57 THAT SEEMED LIKE THE RIGHT
09/23/09 18:07:59 PLACE THAT THE MONEY AND THE
09/23/09 18:07:59 TIME WENT TO.
09/23/09 18:08:02 ON BEHALF OF
09/23/09 18:08:05 THE
09/23/09 18:08:05 ORGANIZATIONS
09/23/09 18:08:06 WE HOPE YOU SUPPORT THIS FUND.
09/23/09 18:08:09 THANK YOU
09/23/09 18:08:12 .
09/23/09 18:08:13 >> THANK YOU.
09/23/09 18:08:13 >> .
09/23/09 18:08:16 >>
09/23/09 18:08:19 SPENCER CASS REPRESENTING
09/23/09 18:08:22 COUNTY . I WAS GOING TO
09/23/09 18:08:22 INVITE
09/23/09 18:08:25 YOU TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PICNIC
09/23/09 18:08:27 A YEAR FROM NOW TO CELEBRATE
09/23/09 18:08:29 WITH THE HANDICAP CHILDREN.
09/23/09 18:08:30 THE OPENING AND THE
09/23/09 18:08:31 REHABILITATION PARK FOR THEM.
09/23/09 18:08:32 I OPEN UP THE TRIBUNE AND I
09/23/09 18:08:35 HAVE TO READ HOW THE MONEY
09/23/09 18:08:37 DOESN'T NEED TO BE THERE FOR
09/23/09 18:08:37 THE CHILDREN.
09/23/09 18:08:39 WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS
09/23/09 18:08:42 ASKING FOR TODAY
09/23/09 18:08:42 IS TAKE MONEY
09/23/09 18:08:44 AWAY FROM CHILDRENNING
09/23/09 18:08:45 SPECIFICALLY IN OUR CASE,
09/23/09 18:08:46 HANDICAP CHILDREN AND TRANSFER
09/23/09 18:08:49 IT TO THE STREET WHERE WE ARE
09/23/09 18:08:51 IN TROUBLED FINANCIAL TIMES.
09/23/09 18:08:51 YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO
09/23/09 18:08:53 BUILD ZACH STREET.
09/23/09 18:08:54 DO YOU WANT TO DO THINGS THAT
09/23/09 18:08:56 ACTUALLY AFFECT CHILDREN'S LIVE
09/23/09 18:08:59 OR PUT THE MONEY INTO A STREET?
09/23/09 18:09:01 I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT IS
09/23/09 18:09:02 FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE TO
09/23/09 18:09:04 SPEND MONEY ON NEW PROJECTS
09/23/09 18:09:05 WHEN YOU ARE NOT TAKING CARE OF
09/23/09 18:09:06 THE STUFF YOU CURRENTLY HAVE.
09/23/09 18:09:08 FIRST YOU MAINTAIN WHAT YOU
09/23/09 18:09:08 HAVE.
09/23/09 18:09:11 THEN
09/23/09 18:09:13 YOU CAN BUILD THEM.
09/23/09 18:09:16 I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THE
09/23/09 18:09:17 DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP OR PEOPLE.
09/23/09 18:09:20 I HAVE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS
09/23/09 18:09:22 WHO ARE UPSET AND TALKING ABOUT
09/23/09 18:09:24 BOYCOTTS AND GETTING WORKED UP
09/23/09 18:09:25 OVER THE BUSINESSES.
09/23/09 18:09:28 I ASKED
09/23/09 18:09:31 THEM TO RELAX
09/23/09 18:09:31 AND TAKE
09/23/09 18:09:34 IT EASY.
09/23/09 18:09:36 I SAID WE'LL STRAIGHTEN
09/23/09 18:09:38 EVERYTHING OUT TONIGHT.
09/23/09 18:09:38 TAMPA RANKED 94 FOR 100 CITIES
09/23/09 18:09:39 FOR KIDS.
09/23/09 18:09:42 I WAS SO PROUD HERE WAS
09/23/09 18:09:42 COUNCIL
09/23/09 18:09:43 STANDING UP FOR CHILDREN.
09/23/09 18:09:44 NOT JUST ANY CHILDREN BUT
09/23/09 18:09:45 HANDICAPPED CHILDREN.
09/23/09 18:09:47 I WAS GOING TO TELL ME ABOUT
09/23/09 18:09:50 THE YOUNG WOMAN WHO TOOK ME IN
09/23/09 18:09:52 HER HOUSE AFTER THE MEETING TWO
09/23/09 18:09:55 WEEKS AGO AND INTRODUCED ME
09/23/09 18:09:56 TO
09/23/09 18:09:58 HER HANDICAP SON WITH TEARS IN
09/23/09 18:10:01 HER EYES TELLING ME
09/23/09 18:10:03 ABOUT THE
09/23/09 18:10:04 DIFFERENCE THIS WOULD MAKE IN
09/23/09 18:10:04 HERE LIFE.
09/23/09 18:10:07 AS VOTERS,
09/23/09 18:10:10 IF WE CAN'T,
09/23/09 18:10:13 VIRGINIA PARK
09/23/09 18:10:15 WILL PAY IN $5
09/23/09 18:10:18 MILLION FROM THE PROPERTY TAX
09/23/09 18:10:25 APRAY SORES.
09/23/09 18:10:28 I COME DOWN HERE AND ASK
09/23/09 18:10:28 FOR
09/23/09 18:10:31 MONEY ON A
09/23/09 18:10:32 REGULAR BASIS.
09/23/09 18:10:35 I ASK THAT YOU MAINTAIN
09/23/09 18:10:37 WHAT
09/23/09 18:10:38 YOU HAVE.
09/23/09 18:10:38 I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU
09/23/09 18:10:41 FUND THE PROJECT
09/23/09 18:10:47 . THANK YOU.
09/23/09 18:10:53 >>> AS YOU
09/23/09 18:10:55 NOTICE WITH THE FAIR
09/23/09 18:10:56 AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN DOWNTOWN IN
09/23/09 18:10:59 THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE
09/23/09 18:11:00 HAVE HAD TEN NEWEST RANS OPEN
09/23/09 18:11:03 IN
09/23/09 18:11:05 THE LAST YEAR.
09/23/09 18:11:05 PEOPLE FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHAT'S
09/23/09 18:11:08 GOING ON DOWNTOWN
09/23/09 18:11:14 .
09/23/09 18:11:30 THEY ARE
09/23/09 18:11:32 PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE BECAUSE
09/23/09 18:11:35 THEY
09/23/09 18:11:38 FEEL IT WILL BE A POSITIVE
09/23/09 18:11:39 IMPACT ON THEIR BUSINESS.
09/23/09 18:11:42 AND THE RESIDENCE FEEL
09/23/09 18:11:43 THE SAME
09/23/09 18:11:43 AS WELL.
09/23/09 18:11:44 >> JUST BECAUSE IT CAME UP
09/23/09 18:11:45 SANTIAGO ADMINISTRATOR, WE WERE
09/23/09 18:11:47 ABLE TO FIND THE FUNDING FOR
09/23/09 18:11:47 DOG PARK.
09/23/09 18:11:50 THERE WILL BE A DOG PARK THERE
09/23/09 18:11:51 FOR ALL OF THE DOG OWNERS.
09/23/09 18:11:53 ALSO, I WOULDN'T WANT THE
09/23/09 18:11:54 VIEWERS WHO MAY BE WATCHING AT
09/23/09 18:11:57 HOME AND THAT
09/23/09 18:11:58 AREN'T HERE TO
09/23/09 18:11:59 THINK THAT WE HAVE NOT INVESTED
09/23/09 18:12:00 MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF
09/23/09 18:12:03 DOLLARS IN
09/23/09 18:12:05 PARKS AND RECREATION
09/23/09 18:12:08 OVER THE LAST SIX
09/23/09 18:12:08 YEARS.
09/23/09 18:12:09 I WILL GIVE THESE TO YOU THAT
09/23/09 18:12:11 SHOW MULTIMILLION DOLLAR
09/23/09 18:12:14 PROJECTS AS WELL AS
09/23/09 18:12:15 SMALL
09/23/09 18:12:17 PROJECTS THAT ADDRESSED ISSUES
09/23/09 18:12:18 THROUGHOUT THE PARKS AND RECKS
09/23/09 18:12:18 SYSTEM.
09/23/09 18:12:19 I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO BELIEVE
09/23/09 18:12:22 WE HAVE NOT BEEN TAKING CARE OF
09/23/09 18:12:23 WHAT WE HAVE.
09/23/09 18:12:23 WE HAVE.
09/23/09 18:12:25 THERE ARE FOLKS OUT THERE THAT
09/23/09 18:12:27 CAN ATTEST TO THAT.
09/23/09 18:12:29 FINALLY, I WANT TO SAY, PARKS
09/23/09 18:12:32 AND RECK HAD MADE A
09/23/09 18:12:32 COMMITMENT
09/23/09 18:12:34 TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ADA
09/23/09 18:12:37 ISSUES FOR HANDICAP CHILDREN AT
09/23/09 18:12:39 FRIENDSHIP PARK WITH THIS
09/23/09 18:12:39 YEAR'S BUDGET.
09/23/09 18:12:42 THE ISSUE OF BUILDING A NEW
09/23/09 18:12:43 BUILDING AT FRIENDSHIP PARK HAD
09/23/09 18:12:46 NEVER
09/23/09 18:12:46 BEEN DISCUSSED.
09/23/09 18:12:49 WELL HAD BEEN BUT HAD
09/23/09 18:12:50 NEVER
09/23/09 18:12:52 BEEN PROMISED BECAUSE THAT
09/23/09 18:12:53 WOULD INTELL MILLIONS OF
09/23/09 18:12:53 DOLLARS.
09/23/09 18:12:53 TO ADDRESS HANDICAP CHILDREN AT
09/23/09 18:12:56 FRIENDSHIP PARK THAT COMMITMENT
09/23/09 18:12:59 HAD BEEN MADE BY THE PARKS
09/23/09 18:12:59 AND
09/23/09 18:13:00 RECK DEPARTMENT TO MAKE THOSE
09/23/09 18:13:01 CONNECTIONS SO HANDICAP
09/23/09 18:13:02 CHILDREN COULD ENJOY FRIENDSHIP
09/23/09 18:13:02 PARK.
09/23/09 18:13:03 WE HAVE DONE IT AT OTHER PARKS
09/23/09 18:13:05 AS WELL.
09/23/09 18:13:07 I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY OUT THERE
09/23/09 18:13:08 THINKING WE ARE ANTIHANDICAP
09/23/09 18:13:12 CHILDREN BECAUSE
09/23/09 18:13:15 IT IS THE
09/23/09 18:13:16 ON
09/23/09 18:13:16 --OPPOSITE.
09/23/09 18:13:19 WE WANT THEM TO
09/23/09 18:13:20 HAVE ACCESS TO
09/23/09 18:13:21 THE SAME RECREATIONS PROSPECTS
09/23/09 18:13:24 ABLED BODIED ADULTS HAVE ABLE
09/23/09 18:13:25 TO ENJOY.
09/23/09 18:13:27 I WANT TO LEAVE THIS WITH YOU.
09/23/09 18:13:30 IT BREAKS DOWN THE MILLIONS OF
09/23/09 18:13:32 DOLLARS SPENT ON PARKS OVER THE
09/23/09 18:13:33 LAST SIX YEARS.
09/23/09 18:13:36 >> SOMETIMES WHEN WE REFLECT
09/23/09 18:13:38 BACK, SOMETIMES DURING THE
09/23/09 18:13:39 PUBLIC HEARING ALL THE
09/23/09 18:13:41 INFORMATION IS NOT REALLY
09/23/09 18:13:41 GIVEN.
09/23/09 18:13:43 ONE OTHER THING, I DON'T WANT
09/23/09 18:13:44 ANYBODY LEAVING THINKING THE
09/23/09 18:13:46 NEIGHBORHOOD HAS NOT BEEN
09/23/09 18:13:46 INVESTED IN.
09/23/09 18:13:48 I BELIEVE THERE ARE SIX OR
09/23/09 18:13:51 SEVEN MILLION IN THE
09/23/09 18:13:51 NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THIS YEAR.
09/23/09 18:13:53 COULD YOU COME TO THE MIC?
09/23/09 18:13:55 I DON'T WANT ANYBODY LEAVING
09/23/09 18:13:57 SAYING THAT'S NO MONEY FOR
09/23/09 18:13:57 NEIGHBORHOODS.
09/23/09 18:13:59 SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL IT
09/23/09 18:14:01 HAS BEEN A PRIORITY AND MONEY
09/23/09 18:14:02 IN THE BUDGET FOR
09/23/09 18:14:02 NEIGHBORHOODS.
09/23/09 18:14:05 WILL YOU SPEAK
09/23/09 18:14:05 TO THAT.
09/23/09 18:14:06 >> INVESTING IN NEIGHBORHOODS
09/23/09 18:14:07 PROGRAM 8.8 MILLION.
09/23/09 18:14:07 BIG INCREASE.
09/23/09 18:14:09 >> THANK YOU.
09/23/09 18:14:12 I
09/23/09 18:14:14 WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE
09/23/09 18:14:18 THAT ON THE
09/23/09 18:14:22 RECORD.
09/23/09 18:14:25 DID YOU STILL WANT TO ASK YOUR
09/23/09 18:14:28 QUESTION?
09/23/09 18:14:28 >> I'LL PASS.
09/23/09 18:14:31 >> ARE QUESTION
09/23/09 18:14:33 GOING DISCUSS
09/23/09 18:14:35 THIS AND VOTE LATER OR IS THIS
09/23/09 18:14:38 THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT?
09/23/09 18:14:38 THIS IS IT?
09/23/09 18:14:41 >>
09/23/09 18:14:43 WE BACK NOW TO COUNCIL
09/23/09 18:14:43 DISCUSSION ON THE BUDGET.
09/23/09 18:14:47 ON
09/23/09 18:14:50 THE POLLS AMENDMENT.
09/23/09 18:14:53 THE MOTION
09/23/09 18:14:55 THAT HE MADE BUT
09/23/09 18:14:58 THERE WAS NEVER A
09/23/09 18:14:58 SECOND.
09/23/09 18:15:01 CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY SPEAK ONE
09/23/09 18:15:01 SECOND.
09/23/09 18:15:03 NOT ONLY THIS ADMINISTRATION
09/23/09 18:15:05 BUT PAST ADMINISTRATIONS AND I
09/23/09 18:15:06 KNOW THINGS ARE NOT PERFECT IN
09/23/09 18:15:08 RECREATION TODAY AND THEY MAY
09/23/09 18:15:09 NOT BE PERFECT TOMORROW.
09/23/09 18:15:11 BUT I CAN TELL YOU THE STRIDES
09/23/09 18:15:13 THAT HAVE BEEN MADE FORWARD IN
09/23/09 18:15:15 THE LAST TEN YEARS ARE
09/23/09 18:15:15 ENORMOUS.
09/23/09 18:15:18 I THINK SOME OF US
09/23/09 18:15:19 WERE HERE
09/23/09 18:15:22 WHEN WE TOURED SOME OF
09/23/09 18:15:24 THESE
09/23/09 18:15:24 REC CENTERS.
09/23/09 18:15:27 YOU WOULD WALK AND FALL THROUGH
09/23/09 18:15:27 THE FLOOR.
09/23/09 18:15:29 THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
09/23/09 18:15:32 THERE WAS RECREATION CENTERS
09/23/09 18:15:34 BUILT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
09/23/09 18:15:36 I THINK THE FORMER MAYOR DID --
09/23/09 18:15:38 I'M TRYING TO BE POLITICAL NOT
09/23/09 18:15:40 MENTIONING NAMES DID AN
09/23/09 18:15:43 ASSESSMENT AND CAME TO A
09/23/09 18:15:43 CONCLUSION WHERE THE FORMER
09/23/09 18:15:45 MAYOR AND FORMER FINANCE
09/23/09 18:15:47 DIRECTOR THAT THIS HAD TO BE
09/23/09 18:15:49 ADDRESSED ALONG WITH THE CHIEF
09/23/09 18:15:49 OF STAFF.
09/23/09 18:15:50 THAT WAS ADDRESSED THROUGHOUT
09/23/09 18:15:51 THE CITY.
09/23/09 18:15:53 I THINK SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS
09/23/09 18:15:54 HERE REMEMBER THAT.
09/23/09 18:15:57 I THINK I'M TRYING TO THINK THE
09/23/09 18:15:58 EXACT AMOUNT.
09/23/09 18:16:01 SOMETHING LIKE 20 OR 22
09/23/09 18:16:04 MILLION
09/23/09 18:16:06 COMES TO MIND.
09/23/09 18:16:06 THESE CENTERS WERE BUILT
09/23/09 18:16:07 COMPLETELY NEW.
09/23/09 18:16:08 SOME WERE REMODELED.
09/23/09 18:16:09 WE COULDN'T GET TO ALL OF THEM.
09/23/09 18:16:11 I'M ASSUMING IN THIS YEAR OF
09/23/09 18:16:13 THIS ADMINISTRATION THEY HAVE
09/23/09 18:16:13 PICKED UP THE BALL AND THE
09/23/09 18:16:16 EVIDENCE LIES IN
09/23/09 18:16:19 WHAT WAS
09/23/09 18:16:21 HASN'TED TO --HANDED TO US
09/23/09 18:16:21 HERE.
09/23/09 18:16:24 LET ME SAY THIS, I'M NOT
09/23/09 18:16:27 SPEAKING ABOUT ANY CURRENT
09/23/09 18:16:28 OR
09/23/09 18:16:29 ANY PAST MAYOR.
09/23/09 18:16:30 BUT A COUNCIL'S ROLE IS TO
09/23/09 18:16:33 RECOMMEND AND EITHER --
09/23/09 18:16:34 WE CAN
09/23/09 18:16:35 SAY WE WANT $2 MILLION TO GO
09/23/09 18:16:35 SOMEWHERE.
09/23/09 18:16:36 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, LET ME
09/23/09 18:16:38 TELL YOU THE FACTS.
09/23/09 18:16:40 THE FACTS ARE THAT IF THAT
09/23/09 18:16:42 PERSON, THAT INDIVIDUAL WHO IS
09/23/09 18:16:45 IN OFFICE AT THAT TIME
09/23/09 18:16:45 AS MAYOR
09/23/09 18:16:48 DOESN'T HAVE TO SPEND ONE
09/23/09 18:16:48 PENNY
09/23/09 18:16:49 OF IT.
09/23/09 18:16:52 I'M
09/23/09 18:16:54 INCORRECT MAY THE CITY
09/23/09 18:16:54 ATTORNEY OR COUNCIL ATTORNEY
09/23/09 18:16:57 PLEASE CORRECT
09/23/09 18:17:03 ME.
09/23/09 18:17:07 >> COUNCIL CAN MAKE
09/23/09 18:17:09 APPROPRIATIONS BUT IT IS THE
09/23/09 18:17:10 MAYOR'S DECISION.
09/23/09 18:17:13 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09/23/09 18:17:16 >> WE CANNOT ALL
09/23/09 18:17:16 ASK FOR A
09/23/09 18:17:17 LITTLE BIT FIGHT.
09/23/09 18:17:17 WE ARE IN TOUGH TIMES.
09/23/09 18:17:20 IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT
09/23/09 18:17:21 ANY OF
09/23/09 18:17:24 US WANT TO DO TO SAY,
09/23/09 18:17:27 OH, YOU
09/23/09 18:17:27 CAN'T HAVE IT BECAUSE WE NEED
09/23/09 18:17:30 IT MORE.
09/23/09 18:17:33 I'M GOING TO GAVE A LECTURE
09/23/09 18:17:34 ABOUT UNIVERSAL DESIGN.
09/23/09 18:17:37 ADA IS WHAT IS REQUIRED BY LAW
09/23/09 18:17:40 AND IT
09/23/09 18:17:43 IS AN OLD LAW.
09/23/09 18:17:45 ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO
09/23/09 18:17:48 CHILDREN AND
09/23/09 18:17:48 PLAYGROUNDS,
09/23/09 18:17:49 DISABLES IN GENERAL, IT DOES
09/23/09 18:17:50 NOT MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE
09/23/09 18:17:52 ANYWHERE NEAR THE KIND OF
09/23/09 18:17:56 ACCESS TO
09/23/09 18:17:56 ANYTHING THAT WE
09/23/09 18:17:56 HAVE.
09/23/09 18:17:59 WE HAVE
09/23/09 18:18:02 A WONDERFUL
09/23/09 18:18:03 UNIVERSALLY
09/23/09 18:18:05 DESIGNED PLAYGROUND THAT THE
09/23/09 18:18:08 CITY WORKED ON WITH STEPHANIE
09/23/09 18:18:10 AT ML1 C^ FOR A LAND PARK.
09/23/09 18:18:12 SHE RAISED HALF A MILLION TO
09/23/09 18:18:14 BUILD THAT PARK.
09/23/09 18:18:17 SHE WORKED ON THAT FOR YEARS AS
09/23/09 18:18:17 VOLUNTEERS.
09/23/09 18:18:19 IF YOU HAVE A VISION FOR
09/23/09 18:18:22 SOMETHING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD
09/23/09 18:18:25 GOOGLE STEPHANIE AND SEE HOW
09/23/09 18:18:25 SHE CREATED THE PARK.
09/23/09 18:18:29 IT WAS BLOOD, SWEAT AND
09/23/09 18:18:29 TEARS.
09/23/09 18:18:31 STEPHANIE DOES NOT WANT THE
09/23/09 18:18:32 WORK DISABLED OR HANDICAPPED.
09/23/09 18:18:35 SHE DOESN'T WANT TO
09/23/09 18:18:36 HEAR THAT
09/23/09 18:18:38 IN RELATION TO SCHOOLS OR
09/23/09 18:18:38 PLAYGROUNDS.
09/23/09 18:18:39 THE REALITY IS WHAT ADA DOES IS
09/23/09 18:18:42 BUILDS SIDEWALKS TO NOWHERE.
09/23/09 18:18:44 THERE IS A SIDEWALK FROM A
09/23/09 18:18:47 PARKING SPACE TO A
09/23/09 18:18:48 PILE OF
09/23/09 18:18:50 MULCH THAT KIDS CAN'T USE.
09/23/09 18:18:53 THAT'S JUST MY LECTURE.
09/23/09 18:18:55 IT IS REALLY FOR THE CITY, TOO,
09/23/09 18:18:57 BECAUSE WE --WE HAD A GREAT
09/23/09 18:18:58 GIFT FROM HER.
09/23/09 18:19:01 SHE
09/23/09 18:19:02 HAS OFFERED TO CONSULT ON
09/23/09 18:19:04 EVERY PROJECT THAT HAPPENED.
09/23/09 18:19:07 EVEN DOWNTOWN, IT
09/23/09 18:19:09 IS NOT CITY'S
09/23/09 18:19:13 FAULT BUT THERE ARE NEW CULT
09/23/09 18:19:16 RALE CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS
09/23/09 18:19:19 DOWNTOWN
09/23/09 18:19:22 . HOW DO
09/23/09 18:19:24 WE MAKE THIS
09/23/09 18:19:24 ACCESSIBLE.
09/23/09 18:19:26 THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE DESIGN
09/23/09 18:19:27 PROJECT.
09/23/09 18:19:28 THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
09/23/09 18:19:31 COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT WITH A
09/23/09 18:19:33 LOFT THINGS THEY WANT.
09/23/09 18:19:36 THE PARK'S
09/23/09 18:19:38 DEPARTMENT, WHAT
09/23/09 18:19:39 CAME OF THIS REQUEST MOTION
09/23/09 18:19:40 LAST WEEK BY COUCILWOMAN SAUL-
09/23/09 18:19:43 SENA WAS THAT WE LISTENED TO
09/23/09 18:19:46 THE PEOPLE HERE
09/23/09 18:19:49 AND TRIED TO
09/23/09 18:19:49 ACCOMMODATE THEM.
09/23/09 18:19:52 I HAVE TO SAY THAT
09/23/09 18:19:54 MAYOR PAM
09/23/09 18:19:56 IORIO WHEN SHE FIRST STARTED
09/23/09 18:19:57 WANTED A TWO-WAY 8th STREET.
09/23/09 18:20:00 I THINK IT IS
09/23/09 18:20:03 THE BEST IDEA SHE
09/23/09 18:20:06 COULD DO FOR
09/23/09 18:20:08 DOWNTOWN.
09/23/09 18:20:11 I HAVE A QUOTE FROM, LITERALLY
09/23/09 18:20:13 A QUOTE FROM TRANSPORTATION
09/23/09 18:20:14 ENGINEER WHO DID THE ESTIMATES
09/23/09 18:20:15 ON THAT IN 1985.
09/23/09 18:20:18 THIS IS AN
09/23/09 18:20:19 OLD ESTIMATE BUT AS
09/23/09 18:20:21 MY COLLEAGUE ALWAYS SAYS READ
09/23/09 18:20:24 REBID THAT
09/23/09 18:20:26 AGAIN BECAUSE
09/23/09 18:20:26 EVERYBODY NEEDS WORK.
09/23/09 18:20:28 WE CAN GET THAT DONE CHEAPER.
09/23/09 18:20:29 I DON'T THINK THE MAYOR HAD THE
09/23/09 18:20:32 PLAN OR THE IDEA FOR THIS
09/23/09 18:20:35 AVENUE OF THE ARTS WHEN SHE
09/23/09 18:20:38 PROPOSED TWO-WAYING
09/23/09 18:20:41 THE STREETS
09/23/09 18:20:41 DID SHE?
09/23/09 18:20:42 >> WHEN WE PROPOSED $2 MILLION
09/23/09 18:20:44 FOR ZACH AVENUE STREET WE WERE
09/23/09 18:20:47 PROJECTING WE WOULD NEED
09/23/09 18:20:49 THAT
09/23/09 18:20:51 TO NOT ONLY MASTER PLAN AND
09/23/09 18:20:53 DESIGN TWO-WAY AND ADD THE ARTS
09/23/09 18:20:55 ELEMENTS BECAUSE WITH THE PAST
09/23/09 18:20:57 EXPERIENCES WE FOUND TWO-LANE
09/23/09 18:21:00 WAS UNDER
09/23/09 18:21:01 A MILLION DOLLARS.
09/23/09 18:21:04 >>
09/23/09 18:21:06 I'M TALKING ABOUT HER OR
09/23/09 18:21:09 ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO
09/23/09 18:21:12 TWO-WAY
09/23/09 18:21:13 THE STREETS.
09/23/09 18:21:13 THIS IS WHAT I'D LIKE TO
09/23/09 18:21:16 PROPOSE AS AN AMENDMENT TO
09/23/09 18:21:17 MR.
09/23/09 18:21:18 CAETANO MOTION.
09/23/09 18:21:20 >> HE DIDN'T MAKE A MOTION.
09/23/09 18:21:20 >> HE DIDN'T?
09/23/09 18:21:22 >> WE HAVE TO RECONSIDER THE
09/23/09 18:21:22 MOTION.
09/23/09 18:21:25 SO WE ARE NOT
09/23/09 18:21:28 TALKING AT THAT
09/23/09 18:21:28 NOW.
09/23/09 18:21:31 >> WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
09/23/09 18:21:35 IS
09/23/09 18:21:35 THE ADMINISTRATION REQUEST THAT
09/23/09 18:21:38 WE
09/23/09 18:21:41 COMPROMISES MILLION
09/23/09 18:21:50 S.
09/23/09 18:21:53 THIS
09/23/09 18:21:56 IS THE TIME TO GIVE YOU THIS
09/23/09 18:21:56 INFORMATION.
09/23/09 18:21:58 THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST
09/23/09 18:21:59 RESPECTED TRANSPORTATION
09/23/09 18:22:02 ENGINEERS WHO DID THE
09/23/09 18:22:04 ESTIMATES.
09/23/09 18:22:05 WHEN WE DID OUR PRELIMINARY
09/23/09 18:22:07 DESIGN COST ESTIMATES IN 2005
09/23/09 18:22:10 FOR MADISON AND POKER
09/23/09 18:22:11 ESTIMATES
09/23/09 18:22:14 RANGED IN THE ORDER OF
09/23/09 18:22:18 $185,000
09/23/09 18:22:21 TO $250,000 EACH.
09/23/09 18:22:24 DEPENDENT ON SIGNS,
09/23/09 18:22:26 PARKING
09/23/09 18:22:28 METERS, PAVEMENT MARKING,
09/23/09 18:22:28 UTILITIES, RELOCATION AND
09/23/09 18:22:29 RECONSTRUCTION.
09/23/09 18:22:29 ZACH WAS INCLUDED IN THAT.
09/23/09 18:22:32 I DON'T THINK YOU NEED A
09/23/09 18:22:34 MILLION TO DO THAT.
09/23/09 18:22:37 THE PARK THAT
09/23/09 18:22:39 ZACH LEADS INTO
09/23/09 18:22:42 IS GOING TO
09/23/09 18:22:45 BE
09/23/09 18:22:47 GORGEOUS.
09/23/09 18:22:47 ONCE WE SEE THAT WE CAN
09/23/09 18:22:50 CONTINUE TO TALK
09/23/09 18:22:53 ABOUT
09/23/09 18:22:59 ZACH
09/23/09 18:23:00 STREET.
09/23/09 18:23:01 YOU DON'T NEED TWO-WAY STREETS
09/23/09 18:23:02 TO BE ARTSY.
09/23/09 18:23:05 WE NEED PEOPLE TO BE ABLE
09/23/09 18:23:05 TO
09/23/09 18:23:07 PARK AND SHOP.
09/23/09 18:23:08 WE HAVE SEEN BUSINESSES COME
09/23/09 18:23:09 AND GO FROM DOWNTOWN BECAUSE
09/23/09 18:23:12 NOBODY CAN GET THERE AND DRIVE
09/23/09 18:23:13 THERE.
09/23/09 18:23:15 I'M THE BIGGEST PROPONENT OF
09/23/09 18:23:17 TWO-WAY STREETS HERE, I THINK.
09/23/09 18:23:20 I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO
09/23/09 18:23:21 DO THE
09/23/09 18:23:22 FANCY STUFF RIGHT NOW.
09/23/09 18:23:25 I THINK I'D LIKE TO --US
09/23/09 18:23:25 TO
09/23/09 18:23:28 THINK ABOUT IN THE
09/23/09 18:23:30 BALLPARK OF
09/23/09 18:23:31 $200,000, OF THE $2 MILLION TO
09/23/09 18:23:33 GO TO ZACH STREET AND I DON'T
09/23/09 18:23:36 THINK WE NEED TO DEBATE WHO
09/23/09 18:23:37 SUPPORTS ART, WHO LOVES
09/23/09 18:23:40 CHILDREN, WHO
09/23/09 18:23:40 LOVES PARKS.
09/23/09 18:23:43 WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO
09/23/09 18:23:43 GO AROUND.
09/23/09 18:23:45 I THINK RIGHT NOW THAT'S WHAT
09/23/09 18:23:45 WE SHOULD DO.
09/23/09 18:23:48 I ENCOURAGE THE
09/23/09 18:23:51 MAYOR
09/23/09 18:23:54 TO
09/23/09 18:23:57 TWO-
09/23/09 18:23:58 WAY EVERY STREET IN THE CITY.
09/23/09 18:23:58 >> LET COUNCILMAN CAETANO,
09/23/09 18:24:01 COUCILWOMAN
09/23/09 18:24:03 SAUL-SENA AND
09/23/09 18:24:06 COUNCIL MAN DINGFELDER.
09/23/09 18:24:09 >> I COULD LIKE
09/23/09 18:24:12 TO
09/23/09 18:24:12 TRANSFER
09/23/09 18:24:15 $2 MILLION FROM ZACH STREET TO
09/23/09 18:24:15 RECREATION.
09/23/09 18:24:16 >> SECOND.
09/23/09 18:24:17 >> THAT'S A LOT OF
09/23/09 18:24:17 RECONSIDERATION.
09/23/09 18:24:19 DO WE NEED TO PASS THAT MOTION
09/23/09 18:24:20 NOW.
09/23/09 18:24:23 >> NO, WE NEED
09/23/09 18:24:26 TO
09/23/09 18:24:28 DISCUSS IT.
09/23/09 18:24:29 >> MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR.
09/23/09 18:24:31 >> COUCILWOMAN SAUL-SENA AND
09/23/09 18:24:34 COUNCIL MAN
09/23/09 18:24:34 DINGFELDER.
09/23/09 18:24:37 >> THIS HAS BEEN A PASSIONATE
09/23/09 18:24:38 AND LIVELY DISCUSSION AND
09/23/09 18:24:41 HEALTHY ONE AND FRUSTRATING
09/23/09 18:24:42 ONE.
09/23/09 18:24:45 YOU LOVE BOTH CHILDREN
09/23/09 18:24:46 AND THEY
09/23/09 18:24:46 ARE BOTH GREAT.
09/23/09 18:24:48 WE WANT TO SEE DOWNTOWN PROSPER
09/23/09 18:24:50 AND CHILDREN ENGAGED IN
09/23/09 18:24:50 WHOLESOME ACTIVITIES.
09/23/09 18:24:53 IT IS A TOUGH PLACE THAT THE
09/23/09 18:24:56 SENT OF US SITTING UP HERE ARE
09/23/09 18:24:56 IN.
09/23/09 18:24:58 I HAVE BEEN DEBATING THIS
09/23/09 18:25:01 HEAVILY, I FEEL
09/23/09 18:25:02 LIKE AT THIS
09/23/09 18:25:04 PARTICULAR POINT, SPACE AND
09/23/09 18:25:04 TIME THE CHILDREN IN OUR
09/23/09 18:25:05 NEIGHBORHOODS NEED THE MONEY
09/23/09 18:25:05 MORE.
09/23/09 18:25:08 I THINK THE MONEY NEEDS TO GO
09/23/09 18:25:09 FOR PARKS AND RECK.
09/23/09 18:25:12 I WAS HEARTENED TO HEAR IT
09/23/09 18:25:14 MIGHT ONLY COST $200,000 TO DO
09/23/09 18:25:16 THE STREET, IN WHICH CASE IF IT
09/23/09 18:25:18 IS REALLY SUCH A TREMENDOUS
09/23/09 18:25:21 PRIORITY, I BET THEY COULD FINE
09/23/09 18:25:21 THE MONEY.
09/23/09 18:25:24 RATHER THAN TWO-WAYING ZACH,
09/23/09 18:25:27 I
09/23/09 18:25:30 WANT TO SAY IF YOU
09/23/09 18:25:32 WANT TO MAKE
09/23/09 18:25:33 PEOPLE TRAVERSE ASHLEY TO ENJOY
09/23/09 18:25:35 THE FABULOUS RESTAURANTS, WHAT
09/23/09 18:25:37 YOU NEED DO IS RETHINK ASHLEY
09/23/09 18:25:39 STREET IT.
09/23/09 18:25:40 RESTRIPE IT, NARROW IT.
09/23/09 18:25:42 MAKE IT SAFER.
09/23/09 18:25:44 MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE.
09/23/09 18:25:45 THAT WILL CREATE MORE SYNERGY
09/23/09 18:25:48 FOR DOWNTOWN
09/23/09 18:25:51 THAN REDOING ZACH.
09/23/09 18:25:54 I THINK
09/23/09 18:25:57 ASHLEY IS REALLY
09/23/09 18:25:59 IS
09/23/09 18:26:01 SECRET FOR CREATING WALKN'T FOR
09/23/09 18:26:03 --WALKABLE FOR DOWNTOWN.
09/23/09 18:26:04 I WILL NOT SUPPORT REFOCUSING
09/23/09 18:26:06 THE MONEY TO ZACH STREET.
09/23/09 18:26:09 RIGHT NOW IN THIS PARTICULAR
09/23/09 18:26:10 ECONOMIC CLIMATE THE PARK'S
09/23/09 18:26:11 ACTIVITIES AND RECREATIONAL
09/23/09 18:26:12 ACTIVITIES WILL HAVE MORE
09/23/09 18:26:15 PROFOUND
09/23/09 18:26:16 IMPACT ON QUALITY OF
09/23/09 18:26:19 LIFE IN
09/23/09 18:26:21 OUR COMMUNITY.
09/23/09 18:26:22 >> COUNCIL MEN DINGFELDER.
09/23/09 18:26:25 >> COUPLE OF QUESTION
09/23/09 18:26:28 S. CAN THE
09/23/09 18:26:30 YOU HAVE A BALLPARK FIGURE ON
09/23/09 18:26:31 HOW MUCH THE
09/23/09 18:26:33 TWO-WAYING OF THE TWO OR THREE
09/23/09 18:26:36 DOWNTOWN STREETS THAT
09/23/09 18:26:38 WE HAVE
09/23/09 18:26:41 ALREADY DONE, HOW
09/23/09 18:26:43 MUCH THEY
09/23/09 18:26:43 COST EACH?
09/23/09 18:26:44 >> SURE, STEVE ADMINISTRATOR OF
09/23/09 18:26:47 PUBLIC
09/23/09 18:26:49 WORKS.
09/23/09 18:26:50 EACH STREET TURNED FROM ONE WAY
09/23/09 18:26:53 TO TWO-WAY
09/23/09 18:26:54 WAS $800,000 TO A
09/23/09 18:26:54 MILLION DOLLARS.
09/23/09 18:26:57 THE ISSUE WITH ZACH STREET
09/23/09 18:26:59 IS
09/23/09 18:27:02 ZACH GOES
09/23/09 18:27:05 FURTHER
09/23/09 18:27:05 THAN THE
09/23/09 18:27:06 OTHER STREETS WE TWO-WAYED.
09/23/09 18:27:08 MOST ENDED AT JEFFERSON.
09/23/09 18:27:09 THIS GOES ALL THE WAY TO
09/23/09 18:27:09 NEBRASKA.
09/23/09 18:27:12 >> DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF THE
09/23/09 18:27:15 DISCREPANCY OF THE
09/23/09 18:27:18 NUMBER
09/23/09 18:27:19 THAT
09/23/09 18:27:21 WE HAVE BEEN HEARING, $800,000
09/23/09 18:27:24 AS COMPARED TO THE NUMBER MISS
09/23/09 18:27:25 MULHERN WAS REFERENCING?
09/23/09 18:27:28 >> I'M READING THE
09/23/09 18:27:29 E-MAIL SHE'S
09/23/09 18:27:29 GOT.
09/23/09 18:27:32 IT SAYS WHEN WE DID
09/23/09 18:27:32 OUR
09/23/09 18:27:33 PRELIMINARY DESIGN COST
09/23/09 18:27:35 ESTIMATES IN 2005 OUR ESTIMATES
09/23/09 18:27:38 RANGED IN THE ORDER OF $185 TO
09/23/09 18:27:38 $250,000.
09/23/09 18:27:40 THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID AND WHAT
09/23/09 18:27:40 SHE READ.
09/23/09 18:27:43 I THINK THEY WERE
09/23/09 18:27:43 TALKING
09/23/09 18:27:45 ABILITY GOING ALL THE WAY BACK
09/23/09 18:27:45 TO 1985.
09/23/09 18:27:48 I READ THE E-MAIL SHE READ
09/23/09 18:27:49 FROM.
09/23/09 18:27:52 DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT
09/23/09 18:27:53 THAT DISCREPANCY IS?
09/23/09 18:27:56 MY SENSE IS MAYBE IT IS
09/23/09 18:27:57 JUST A
09/23/09 18:27:58 FUNCTION OF, IF YOU CHANGING
09/23/09 18:27:59 THE LIGHT PATTERNS MAYBE IT
09/23/09 18:28:01 DOESN'T COST AS MUCH.
09/23/09 18:28:04 WE DID MORE
09/23/09 18:28:04 ON THE OTHER
09/23/09 18:28:06 STREETS IN TERM OF CROSS WALKS.
09/23/09 18:28:07 WHAT ELSE DID WE DO?
09/23/09 18:28:09 >> THERE IS A NUMBER OF THINGS
09/23/09 18:28:10 YOU HAVE TO DO.
09/23/09 18:28:11 YOU HAVE THE CHANGE SIGNS.
09/23/09 18:28:14 YOU HAVE TO DO STREET
09/23/09 18:28:15 STRIPING.
09/23/09 18:28:16 WHETHER OR NOT YOU REFINISH THE
09/23/09 18:28:19 STREET SUPPORT TO YOU.
09/23/09 18:28:22 YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE STREET
09/23/09 18:28:22 MARKINGS.
09/23/09 18:28:23 IT IS NOT JUST TURNING THE
09/23/09 18:28:26 LIGHTS AROUND.
09/23/09 18:28:27 >> OKAY.
09/23/09 18:28:28 THANK YOU.
09/23/09 18:28:31 LET ME FINISH A COUPLE OF
09/23/09 18:28:31 MY
09/23/09 18:28:31 QUESTIONS.
09/23/09 18:28:32 SOME ARE RELATED SPECIFICALLY
09/23/09 18:28:32 TO THIS ISSUE.
09/23/09 18:28:35 SOME ARE
09/23/09 18:28:38 RELATED TO OTHER
09/23/09 18:28:39 THINGS WE HAVE BEEN TALKING
09/23/09 18:28:39 ABOUT.
09/23/09 18:28:42 LET
09/23/09 18:28:43 ME CLARIFY WHAT LEGAL HAS
09/23/09 18:28:45 PRESENTED US WITH TONIGHT.
09/23/09 18:28:48 BONNIE
09/23/09 18:28:50 AND CHIP YOU CAN HELP
09/23/09 18:28:50 US.
09/23/09 18:28:53 THEY PRESENTED US
09/23/09 18:28:54 A RESOLUTION
09/23/09 18:28:55 WITH THE $2 MILLION.
09/23/09 18:28:57 WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ACT UPON
09/23/09 18:28:59 UNTIL AFTER WE PASS THE BUDGET
09/23/09 18:29:00 BECAUSE THE BUDGET IS PRINTED
09/23/09 18:29:02 UP AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
09/23/09 18:29:04 WE PASS THE BUDGET AS IT WAS
09/23/09 18:29:05 PRESENTED BY THE MAYOR A MONTH
09/23/09 18:29:06 OR TWO AGO.
09/23/09 18:29:09 THEN, IF IN FACT, WE WANT TO
09/23/09 18:29:11 CHANGE SOMETHING TO THE TUNE OF
09/23/09 18:29:14 THE $2 MILLION, ONE MILLION,
09/23/09 18:29:15 $200,000 OR WHATEVER IT IS.
09/23/09 18:29:17 THAT'S COMING LATER IN THE
09/23/09 18:29:17 FINAL RESOLUTION.
09/23/09 18:29:18 I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TO
09/23/09 18:29:20 ANYBODY ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS
09/23/09 18:29:23 ISSUE IF IT WASN'T CLEAR
09/23/09 18:29:27 BEFORE.
09/23/09 18:29:28 IT WASN'T CLEAR UNTIL I STARTED
09/23/09 18:29:28 READING THROUGH ALL
09/23/09 18:29:37 THIS.
09/23/09 18:30:37 >> THAT'S
09/23/09 18:30:40 THE
09/23/09 18:30:43 ENTIRE SITE NOT
09/23/09 18:30:44 JUST THE BUILDING.
09/23/09 18:30:44 THE SITE FACILITY, PARKING,
09/23/09 18:30:45 INFRASTRUCTURE, RESURFACING,
09/23/09 18:30:45 REPLACEMENT AND RELOCATION.
09/23/09 18:30:48 >> DO YOU HAVE A SENSE ON JUST
09/23/09 18:30:48 THE BUILDING?
09/23/09 18:30:51 >> I DO NOT AT THIS
09/23/09 18:30:51 TIME.
09/23/09 18:30:54 IT IS
09/23/09 18:30:58 SOMETHING I COULD GET FOR
09/23/09 18:30:59 YOU.
09/23/09 18:30:59 >> THANK YOU.
09/23/09 18:31:02 THE LAST
09/23/09 18:31:08 QUESTION --
09/23/09 18:31:41 [ NO
09/23/09 18:31:41 AUDIO
09/23/09 18:31:44 ]. I JUST REMINDED ME
09/23/09 18:31:45 OF MY
09/23/09 18:31:48 LAST QUESTION TO SANTIAGO.
09/23/09 18:31:51 I APOLOGIZE WE DIDN'T GET
09/23/09 18:31:53 A
09/23/09 18:31:54 CHANCE TO TALK THIS WEEK.
09/23/09 18:31:55 I HAVE BEEN BUSY.
09/23/09 18:31:57 ZACH STREET APPEARS TO ME TO BE
09/23/09 18:32:00 TWO OR THREE
09/23/09 18:32:01 COMPONENTS WE ARE
09/23/09 18:32:03 TALKING ABOUT ON THE $2
09/23/09 18:32:03 MILLION.
09/23/09 18:32:04 TWO-WAYING.
09/23/09 18:32:07 WHICH I THINK WE ARE ALL
09/23/09 18:32:07 IN
09/23/09 18:32:10 GOOD FAVOR ABOUT
09/23/09 18:32:12 IT AT SOME
09/23/09 18:32:12 POINT.
09/23/09 18:32:15 THE DOLLAR AMOUNT SEEM
09/23/09 18:32:18 S TO BE
09/23/09 18:32:18 FLOATING.
09/23/09 18:32:18 THEN WE HIRE CONSULTANTS, I
09/23/09 18:32:21 UNDERSTAND YOU
09/23/09 18:32:23 PUT OUT RFI TO
09/23/09 18:32:26 HIRE A CONSULTANT TO
09/23/09 18:32:26 HELP US
09/23/09 18:32:29 WITH THIS VISION OF WHAT THE
09/23/09 18:32:32 FUTURE OF
09/23/09 18:32:34 ZACH STREET WOULD
09/23/09 18:32:34 LOOK LIKE.
09/23/09 18:32:35 THE THIRD COMPONENT WOULD BE
09/23/09 18:32:38 IMPLEMENT ING
09/23/09 18:32:40 IMPLEMENT ING THE VISION OF
09/23/09 18:32:43 STACK
09/23/09 18:32:45 ZACH STREET.
09/23/09 18:32:48 I HAVE HEARD $
09/23/09 18:32:50 2 MILLION DOESN'T
09/23/09 18:32:51 COME CLOSE.
09/23/09 18:32:53 DEPENDING ON WHAT THE VISION IS
09/23/09 18:32:56 COULD BE A FIVE OR TEN
09/23/09 18:32:57 MILLION
09/23/09 18:32:58 EFFORT OVER A DECADE.
09/23/09 18:32:59 LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SECOND
09/23/09 18:32:59 COMPONENT.
09/23/09 18:33:02 HIRING OF THE CONSULTANT TO
09/23/09 18:33:05 HELP US WITH THIS VISIONING
09/23/09 18:33:06 EXERCISE.
09/23/09 18:33:09 DO WE HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT
09/23/09 18:33:11 OR A
09/23/09 18:33:12 BALLPARK OF THAT COMPONENT?
09/23/09 18:33:14 >> WE PUT OUT, AND STEVE CAN
09/23/09 18:33:16 HELP ME HER
09/23/09 18:33:19 WE PUT OUT RFP FOR MASTER
09/23/09 18:33:22 PLANNING AND
09/23/09 18:33:23 DESIGN FOR ZACH
09/23/09 18:33:26 AVENUE OF ARTS WHICH
09/23/09 18:33:27 INCLUDES
09/23/09 18:33:28 TWO-WAYING AND ARTIST PICK
09/23/09 18:33:28 COMPONENT.
09/23/09 18:33:30 WE PROJECTED TWO MILLION WOULD
09/23/09 18:33:33 GET US THE MASTER
09/23/09 18:33:33 PLAN, THE
09/23/09 18:33:35 DESIGN, THE TWO-WAYING AND SOME
09/23/09 18:33:38 OF THE ARTISTIC ELEMENTS TO
09/23/09 18:33:40 MAKE IT A DIFFERENT AVENUE OF
09/23/09 18:33:40 THE
09/23/09 18:33:41 ARTS.
09/23/09 18:33:43 WHEN WE PUT OUT THE RFP WITH A
09/23/09 18:33:45 MEETING IN THE COUNCIL
09/23/09 18:33:47 CHAMBERS THERE WAS STANDING
09/23/09 18:33:48 ROOM ONLY ON THE NUMBER OF
09/23/09 18:33:50 FIRMS AND INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE
09/23/09 18:33:53 INTERESTED IN
09/23/09 18:33:56 BIDDING ON THAT
09/23/09 18:33:58 RFP FOR THE DESIGN.
09/23/09 18:33:59 SO THE $2 MILLION WOULD HAVE
09/23/09 18:34:00 GOTTEN WAS TOWARDS THAT VISION.
09/23/09 18:34:03 WOULD WE HAVE MADE IT ALL
09/23/09 18:34:03 THE
09/23/09 18:34:03 WAY?
09/23/09 18:34:05 I DON'T KNOW.
09/23/09 18:34:06 OUR INTENTION FOR THE ONE
09/23/09 18:34:08 MILLION MASTER PLANNING AND
09/23/09 18:34:09 DESIGN OF ZACH TO FRUITION AND
09/23/09 18:34:10 THE TWO-WAYING.
09/23/09 18:34:13 THEN WE
09/23/09 18:34:14 STOP THERE.
09/23/09 18:34:17 THEN WE ADD
09/23/09 18:34:20 ALL THE
09/23/09 18:34:21 ARTISTIC
09/23/09 18:34:21 ELEMENTS.
09/23/09 18:34:22 THAT CAN BE DRAMATIC.
09/23/09 18:34:22 SIDEWALK INLAYS.
09/23/09 18:34:23 LIGHTING THAT'S DIFFERENCE.
09/23/09 18:34:25 ARTISTIC BENCHES.
09/23/09 18:34:27 INLAYS AND CROSS WALKS.
09/23/09 18:34:30 ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
09/23/09 18:34:30 >> I THINK I COULD SUPPORT
09/23/09 18:34:31 MILLION DOLLARS COMPROMISE.
09/23/09 18:34:34 BUT YOU'D LIKE TO DO IT IN
09/23/09 18:34:36 REVERSE ORDER TO SAY THAT WE
09/23/09 18:34:37 WOULD AT LEASE BE GUARANTEED
09/23/09 18:34:40 THAT OUT OF THE MILLION DOLLARS
09/23/09 18:34:41 IT WOULD GET TWO-WAYED.
09/23/09 18:34:44 THEN IF WE HAVE EXCESS MONEY
09/23/09 18:34:44 TO
09/23/09 18:34:46 DO THIS VISIONING PLANNING
09/23/09 18:34:49 MASTER PLANNING EXCETERA THEN
09/23/09 18:34:52 THAT'S WHAT YOU
09/23/09 18:34:52 WOULD USE THE
09/23/09 18:34:53 SURPLUS MONEY FOR.
09/23/09 18:34:55 I THINK THIS COMMUNITIES,
09/23/09 18:34:58 ESPECIALLY IN TIGHT
09/23/09 18:34:59 TIMES WANT
09/23/09 18:35:00 TO SEE HARD AND TANGIBLE
09/23/09 18:35:03 PRODUCT TO OUR MILLION DOLLARS
09/23/09 18:35:04 SPENT AS COMPARED TO MORE PLANS
09/23/09 18:35:05 ON THE WALL.
09/23/09 18:35:08 >> TWO-WAYING WOULD
09/23/09 18:35:08 BE COVERED
09/23/09 18:35:09 IN THE ONE MILLION.
09/23/09 18:35:09 >> THANK YOU.
09/23/09 18:35:10 >> COUCILWOMAN MULHERN.
09/23/09 18:35:13 >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO HIRE
09/23/09 18:35:14 A
09/23/09 18:35:14 CONSULTANT.
09/23/09 18:35:16 ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GET
09/23/09 18:35:17 ONLINE.
09/23/09 18:35:18 LOOK AT PHOTOGRAPHS AND SEE
09/23/09 18:35:21 WHAT DOWNTOWN USED TO LOOK LIKE
09/23/09 18:35:24 BEFORE WE TURNED THOSE INTO
09/23/09 18:35:24 ONE-WAY STREETS.
09/23/09 18:35:27 YOU DON'T CREATE, I'M AN
09/23/09 18:35:30 ARTIST, I CAN SAY THIS, YOU
09/23/09 18:35:33 DON'T CREATE AN
09/23/09 18:35:33 ARTS
09/23/09 18:35:34 NEIGHBORHOOD OR ART ENVIRONMENT
09/23/09 18:35:37 BY HIRINGSOMEBODY TO DESIGN
09/23/09 18:35:37 SOMETHING.
09/23/09 18:35:40 IT NEEDS TO BE AN AFFORDABLE
09/23/09 18:35:41 AND EA COOL PLACE TO BE.
09/23/09 18:35:43 NOT SOMEWHERE THAT'S BEEN --IF
09/23/09 18:35:44 YOU CAN PARK THERE, IF YOU CAN
09/23/09 18:35:47 WALK THERE, IF THERE IS MUSEUMS
09/23/09 18:35:49 DOWN THE BLOCK, WHICH WE'LL
09/23/09 18:35:51 HAVE, THE WONDERFUL TAMPA
09/23/09 18:35:54 THEATER, YOU DON'T NEED TO
09/23/09 18:35:55 SPEND A MILLION DOLLARS.
09/23/09 18:35:58 NOW WE
09/23/09 18:36:01 HAVE
09/23/09 18:36:03 THREE DIFFERENT
09/23/09 18:36:03 PROPOSALS HERE.
09/23/09 18:36:06 I'M NOT GOING
09/23/09 18:36:09 SUPPORT THE
09/23/09 18:36:09 MILLION.
09/23/09 18:36:10 I THINK WE SHOULD LET THEM HAVE
09/23/09 18:36:13 $200,000 FOR ZACH STREET AND
09/23/09 18:36:15 THE REST OF IT GO TO THE PARKS
09/23/09 18:36:15 DEPARTMENT GO TO NEIGHBORHOOD
09/23/09 18:36:18 PARKS.
09/23/09 18:36:20 >> CHAIRMAN CAN WE MOVE TO
09/23/09 18:36:20 QUESTION?
09/23/09 18:36:23 >> LET ME
09/23/09 18:36:26 JUST SAY
09/23/09 18:36:28 THAT TWO
09/23/09 18:36:31 WEEKS AGO I TRIED TO MAKE A
09/23/09 18:36:34 PLEA FOR US TO
09/23/09 18:36:37 KEEP MONEY IN
09/23/09 18:36:38 FOR DESIGN IF Y'ALL RECALL.
09/23/09 18:36:39 THAT DIDN'T GET NO TRACTION TWO
09/23/09 18:36:41 WEEKS AGO.
09/23/09 18:36:43 SO WE ARE BACK HERE TODAY ON
09/23/09 18:36:45 THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
09/23/09 18:36:48 I WILL
09/23/09 18:36:50 SAY THAT THESE ARE
09/23/09 18:36:53 REALLY, REALLY TOUGH TIME
09/23/09 18:36:56 S. AS
09/23/09 18:36:59 ELECTED
09/23/09 18:37:02 OFFICIAL I HAVE HAD 12
09/23/09 18:37:03 YEARS AS ELECTED OFFICIAL.
09/23/09 18:37:06 IN MY TIME, IT HAS NOT BEEN AS
09/23/09 18:37:08 DIFFICULT AS IT IS NOW.
09/23/09 18:37:11 I WAS TALKING TODAY AND WE
09/23/09 18:37:16 DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES COMPARED
09/23/09 18:37:17 TO OTHER CITIES.
09/23/09 18:37:20 HE STARTED SHOWING ME
09/23/09 18:37:21 PROBLEMS
09/23/09 18:37:23 OTHER CITIES ARE GOING THROUGH
09/23/09 18:37:26 WE
09/23/09 18:37:28 HAVE IT GOOD.
09/23/09 18:37:28 WE TONIGHT ARE STRUGGLING FOR
09/23/09 18:37:31 THIS COMMUNITY
09/23/09 18:37:34 . IT
09/23/09 18:37:35 IS A TOUGH
09/23/09 18:37:37 DECISION WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
09/23/09 18:37:37 CHILDREN.
09/23/09 18:37:40 WE ALL HAVE CHILDREN
09/23/09 18:37:41 OR GRANT
09/23/09 18:37:41 CHILDREN.
09/23/09 18:37:44 WE WANT TO
09/23/09 18:37:47 PROVIDE THE BEST FOR
09/23/09 18:37:47 THEM.
09/23/09 18:37:48 I RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF
09/23/09 18:37:49 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND
09/23/09 18:37:51 BUSINESSES THAT GENERATE
09/23/09 18:37:52 REVENUE TO DO MORE THINGS FOR
09/23/09 18:37:52 THE COMMUNITY.
09/23/09 18:37:54 IT BECOMES A DIFFICULT AND
09/23/09 18:37:57 TOUGH ISSUE FOR ALL
09/23/09 18:37:58 OF US.
09/23/09 18:37:59 PART OF BEING ELECTED OFFICIAL
09/23/09 18:38:02 IS TRYING TO FIND COMMON GROUND
09/23/09 18:38:05 AND COMPROMISE THAT WE CAN
09/23/09 18:38:06 WALK
09/23/09 18:38:09 AWAY WITH EVERYBODY HAVING
09/23/09 18:38:09 SOMETHING.
09/23/09 18:38:10 WHAT THAT GOING TO BE TONIGHT?
09/23/09 18:38:11 I'M NOT SURE.
09/23/09 18:38:14 THAT'S WHERE I STOOD
09/23/09 18:38:16 AS ELECTED
09/23/09 18:38:16 OFFICIAL.
09/23/09 18:38:18 IF THERE IS OPPORTUNITIES TO
09/23/09 18:38:19 REACH COMPROMISE OR OPPORTUNITY
09/23/09 18:38:21 TO WALK AWAY WITH EVERYBODY
09/23/09 18:38:22 GETTING SOMETHING EITHER WAY
09/23/09 18:38:25 YOU GO, NOBODY IS GOING TO
09/23/09 18:38:25 BE
09/23/09 18:38:25 HAPPY.
09/23/09 18:38:27 AT LEAST THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY
09/23/09 18:38:30 TO TALK AND DISCUSS HOW CAN
09/23/09 18:38:30 WE
09/23/09 18:38:31 REACH SOME MIDDLE GROUND OR
09/23/09 18:38:34 COMPROMISE ON TRYING TO MAKE
09/23/09 18:38:36 SURE THAT OUR CHILDREN, OUR
09/23/09 18:38:39 PARKS GET SOMETHING,
09/23/09 18:38:39 AS WELL AS
09/23/09 18:38:42 WE LOOK AT THE DOWNTOWN
09/23/09 18:38:42 AND
09/23/09 18:38:43 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE
09/23/09 18:38:44 BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY,
09/23/09 18:38:47 WHICH ARE SO VERY
09/23/09 18:38:49 IMPORTANT.
09/23/09 18:38:51 I'M NOT SURE OF WHERE THIS
09/23/09 18:38:51 MOTION IS GOING.
09/23/09 18:38:53 ALL THOSE ISSUES ARE VERY, VERY
09/23/09 18:38:56 IMPORTANT TO THIS
09/23/09 18:38:56 COMMUNITY.
09/23/09 18:38:59 I WOULD SIMPLY SAY THIS IS A
09/23/09 18:38:59 TOUGH YEAR.
09/23/09 18:39:01 AT OF MY MANY YEARS AS ELECTED
09/23/09 18:39:02 OFFICIAL THIS IS ONE OF THE
09/23/09 18:39:03 HARDEST ONE.
09/23/09 18:39:04 IN PAST YEARS YOU HAVE HAD
09/23/09 18:39:05 SURPLUS OF MONEY.
09/23/09 18:39:07 THIS YEAR YOU DON'T HAVE THAT.
09/23/09 18:39:10 IT IS A TOUGH
09/23/09 18:39:13 DECISION THAT WE
09/23/09 18:39:13 MUST MAKE.
09/23/09 18:39:14 I WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND
09/23/09 18:39:17 THAT
09/23/09 18:39:19 COUNCIL HAS A
09/23/09 18:39:19 RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE TOUGH
09/23/09 18:39:22 DECISION .WHEN IT IS
09/23/09 18:39:24 ALL SAID
09/23/09 18:39:27 THE DONE EVERYONE WILL
09/23/09 18:39:30 NOT
09/23/09 18:39:31 BE
09/23/09 18:39:31 HAPPY TONIGHT.
09/23/09 18:39:34 >> MR.
09/23/09 18:39:37 BELL SPOKE ABOUT THE
09/23/09 18:39:37 TAMPA THEATER.
09/23/09 18:39:40 IT WAS
09/23/09 18:39:43 $90,000 IN LATE 70s THAT
09/23/09 18:39:46 MAYOR POLE, ALONG
09/23/09 18:39:47 WITH LEE
09/23/09 18:39:48 DUNCAN, WHO HAS SINCE PASSED
09/23/09 18:39:51 AWAY, BROUGHT IT TO THE
09/23/09 18:39:52 TABLE
09/23/09 18:39:54 TO BUY --WE DIDN'T HAVE THE
09/23/09 18:39:57 MONEY TO DO MORE THAN WHAT WE
09/23/09 18:40:00 COULD BUT WE HAD
09/23/09 18:40:04 $90,000.
09/23/09 18:40:08 WE DID WHAT WE COULD TO SAVE
09/23/09 18:40:10 ONE OF THE MOST HISTORICAL AND
09/23/09 18:40:11 BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS.
09/23/09 18:40:14 IT PASSED
09/23/09 18:40:17 BUT IT
09/23/09 18:40:18 PASSED 4-3. AT
09/23/09 18:40:19 THIS TIME I WANT TO THANK
09/23/09 18:40:21 COUNCIL MAN DUNCAN FOR DOING
09/23/09 18:40:23 WHAT THEY DID AT THAT TIME.
09/23/09 18:40:25 THOSE WERE DIFFICULT TIMES LIKE
09/23/09 18:40:25 THEY ARE TODAY.
09/23/09 18:40:28 MR. CHAIRMAN
09/23/09 18:40:29 YOU SPOKE ABOUT
09/23/09 18:40:30 TODAY.
09/23/09 18:40:33 YOU I'M THINKING
09/23/09 18:40:33 FIVE YEARS
09/23/09 18:40:34 FROM NOW THE GOVERNMENT OF
09/23/09 18:40:36 YESTERDAY WILL BE DIFFERENT
09/23/09 18:40:36 FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.
09/23/09 18:40:38 THERE WILL BE MANY CHANGES.
09/23/09 18:40:40 IN THE LAST THREE YEARS WE HAVE
09/23/09 18:40:42 HAD $92 MILLION OUT OF OUR TAX
09/23/09 18:40:44 AND RIGHTLY SO.
09/23/09 18:40:47 WE HAVE HAD A REDUCTION OF
09/23/09 18:40:49 $6 MILLION ON SALES TAX.
09/23/09 18:40:50 ALREADY SHOWING INCREASING
09/23/09 18:40:52 DEFICIT AS WE APPROACH THE NEW
09/23/09 18:40:56 FISCAL YEAR FOR THE
09/23/09 18:40:56 CITY.
09/23/09 18:40:59 I ENVISION NEXT YEAR
09/23/09 18:40:59 ANOTHER
09/23/09 18:41:00 $30 MILLION.
09/23/09 18:41:01 AND NEXT YEAR, OR 40 MAYBE.
09/23/09 18:41:04 NEXT YEAR
09/23/09 18:41:07 YOU DON'T HAVE A
09/23/09 18:41:07 CUSHION TO TAKE FROM THE
09/23/09 18:41:10 CONTINUE
09/23/09 18:41:12 CONTINUE JEN IS I RESERVE FUND
09/23/09 18:41:13 --CONTINGENCY FUND.
09/23/09 18:41:16 THERE
09/23/09 18:41:17 WILL BE A DIFFERENT
09/23/09 18:41:20 OUTLOOK IN THE
09/23/09 18:41:30 CITY.
09/23/09 18:41:48 THESE ARE VERY SERIOUS THINGS
09/23/09 18:41:51 .
09/23/09 18:41:52 WE HAVE MADE GREAT STRIDE IN
09/23/09 18:41:52 RECREATION.
09/23/09 18:41:55 ARE
09/23/09 18:41:57 WE PERFECT?
09/23/09 18:41:57 ABSOLUTELY NOT.
09/23/09 18:41:58 WHEN YOU COMPARE US TO OTHER
09/23/09 18:42:01 CITIES, I
09/23/09 18:42:02 FORGET WHAT THE
09/23/09 18:42:03 COMPARISON WAS, BUT THE CITY OF
09/23/09 18:42:05 TAMPA RANKED IN THE TOP TEN.
09/23/09 18:42:08 I SAW A SURVEY IN
09/23/09 18:42:08 THE PAPER IN
09/23/09 18:42:11 THE
09/23/09 18:42:14 LAST TWO OR
09/23/09 18:42:15 THREE WEEKS.
09/23/09 18:42:16 I WAS IMPRESSED.
09/23/09 18:42:19 I REMEMBER READING IT.
09/23/09 18:42:21 MR. CHAIRMAN IT IS DIFFICULT
09/23/09 18:42:23 AND IT IS GOING TO GET EVEN A
09/23/09 18:42:25 LITTLE TOUGHER TO DO BUSINESS.
09/23/09 18:42:26 IN DOING THAT YOU REALLY BECOME
09/23/09 18:42:28 A BETTER PERSON BECAUSE I USED
09/23/09 18:42:29 TO, THERE IS AN OLD SAYING I
09/23/09 18:42:32 USE, IT IS NOT MEAN AS A
09/23/09 18:42:33 JOKE,
09/23/09 18:42:35 I USED TO BE POOR AND BROKE,
09/23/09 18:42:38 NOW I'M JUST
09/23/09 18:42:39 BROKE.
09/23/09 18:42:41 SO YOU FIGURE THAT OUT AND YOU
09/23/09 18:42:42 FIGURE ME OUT.
09/23/09 18:42:45 IT IS VERY DIFFICULT
09/23/09 18:42:45 NOWADAYS
09/23/09 18:42:48 TO BE IN BUSINESS,
09/23/09 18:42:50 TO OPERATE A
09/23/09 18:42:51 BUSINESS, AND TO STAY IN ANY
09/23/09 18:42:54 PART OF THE UNITED STATES AND
09/23/09 18:42:56 IN THE WORLD WHEN COMMERCE IS
09/23/09 18:42:57 DOWN, BUSINESSES ARE DOWN AND
09/23/09 18:42:58 THINGS JUST DON'T HAPPEN.
09/23/09 18:43:00 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09/23/09 18:43:03 >> COUNCIL, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO
09/23/09 18:43:04 --YES, SIR.
09/23/09 18:43:07 >> THE RECREATION PROJECTS LIST
09/23/09 18:43:10 HAS ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS FOR
09/23/09 18:43:10 NEXT YEAR.
09/23/09 18:43:13 IN THE PAST THEY
09/23/09 18:43:15 HAVE HAD TWO
09/23/09 18:43:17 MILLION EXCEPT FOR 2004, THEY
09/23/09 18:43:17 HAD $1,335 MILLION.
09/23/09 18:43:18 BY PUTTING A MILLION BACK I
09/23/09 18:43:21 THINK THEY CAN DO THE PROJECTS
09/23/09 18:43:24 THAT NEED
09/23/09 18:43:26 TO BE DONE.
09/23/09 18:43:29 >> WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO,S
09/23/09 18:43:31 IS
09/23/09 18:43:31 HOLD THE MOTION.
09/23/09 18:43:34 PASS THE BUDGET
09/23/09 18:43:36 . AND THEN AFTER
09/23/09 18:43:39 THE BUDGET TAKE UP
09/23/09 18:43:42 THE
09/23/09 18:43:44 RECONSIDERATION.
09/23/09 18:43:45 I THINK THERE IS A RESOLUTION
09/23/09 18:43:48 COMING FORTH TO AMEND THE
09/23/09 18:43:53 BUDGET.
09/23/09 18:43:56 >> THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO DO IT.
09/23/09 18:44:22 >> MOVE TO VOTE.
09/23/09 18:44:23 >> .
09/23/09 18:44:26 >> I BELIEVE THIS
09/23/09 18:44:28 IS WHAT I'M
09/23/09 18:44:29 SUPPOSED TO READ.
09/23/09 18:44:29 SECOND PUBLIC HEARING CITY OF
09/23/09 18:44:30 TAMPA FISCAL YEAR BUDGET.
09/23/09 18:44:33 THIS IS THE SECOND
09/23/09 18:44:36 PUBLIC
09/23/09 18:44:39 HEARING FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA
09/23/09 18:44:39 .
09/23/09 18:44:42 >>
09/23/09 18:44:43 NO.
09/23/09 18:44:43 SORRY.
09/23/09 18:44:44 >> I PLACED A COPY OF THE
09/23/09 18:44:47 RESOLUTION IN
09/23/09 18:44:50 FRONT OF YOU DESK
09/23/09 18:44:50 THERE TO READ THE ENTIRE
09/23/09 18:44:53 RESOLUTION
09/23/09 18:44:57 .
09/23/09 18:45:00 >> NUMBER TWO, RIGHT?
09/23/09 18:45:13 I MOVE RESOLUTION LEVYING AND
09/23/09 18:45:16 ALARM
09/23/09 18:45:19 TAX AT THE RATE OF
09/23/09 18:45:24 57S
09/23/09 18:45:26 5.7326 MILLS UPON ALL REAL AND
09/23/09 18:45:29 PERSONAL TAXABLE PROPERTY IN
09/23/09 18:45:32 THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR THE
09/23/09 18:45:35 FISCAL YEAR 2010.
09/23/09 18:45:37 AUTHORIZING MAYOR AND CITY
09/23/09 18:45:40 CLERK TO CERTIFY MILLAGE
09/23/09 18:45:41 PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE.
09/23/09 18:45:42 BE IT RESOLVED BY CITY COUNCIL
09/23/09 18:45:45 OF THE CITY TAMPA OF
09/23/09 18:45:46 FLORIDA
09/23/09 18:45:49 THAT THE TAX OF THE RATE
09/23/09 18:45:50 OF
09/23/09 18:45:51 FIVE AND SEVEN THOUSANDS, THREE
09/23/09 18:45:51 HUNDRED TWENTY SIX THOUSAND TO
09/23/09 18:45:54 RAISE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY FIXED
09/23/09 18:45:57 IN THE RECOMMENDED OPERATING
09/23/09 18:45:59 AND CAPITAL BUDGET OF THE CITY
09/23/09 18:46:02 OF TAMPA
09/23/09 18:46:05 FOR THE
09/23/09 18:46:06 FISCAL YEAR
09/23/09 18:46:09 COMMENCING OCTOBER 1, 2009
09/23/09 18:46:10 AND
09/23/09 18:46:11 ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2010 THE
09/23/09 18:46:14 MAINTENANCE IS HERE BY LEVIED
09/23/09 18:46:17 PROVIDED BY LAW FOR THE CITY OF
09/23/09 18:46:17 TAMPA.
09/23/09 18:46:20 SECTION TWO THAT THE MAYOR AND
09/23/09 18:46:21 CITY CLERK AS THE PROPER
09/23/09 18:46:24 AUTHORITIES OF THE CITY OF
09/23/09 18:46:26 TAMPA ARE DIRECTED TO CERTIFY
09/23/09 18:46:28 TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF
09/23/09 18:46:29 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA
09/23/09 18:46:32 MILLAGE TO BE
09/23/09 18:46:35 LEVIED
09/23/09 18:46:37 FOR ALL
09/23/09 18:46:38 PURPOSES IN THE FISCAL YEAR
09/23/09 18:46:41 2010 TO WIT
09/23/09 18:46:44 5.7326 MILLS AS
09/23/09 18:46:47 DEFINED IN SECOND 20.0651
09/23/09 18:46:47 OF IF
09/23/09 18:46:49 FLORIDA STATUES BY 12.62% AND
09/23/09 18:46:50 TO REQUEST LEVY OF THE MILLAGE
09/23/09 18:46:52 SET FORTH UPON ALL REAL AND
09/23/09 18:46:54 PERSONAL PROPERTY IN THE CITY
09/23/09 18:46:56 OF TAMPA SET FORTH IN
09/23/09 18:46:57 ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS
09/23/09 18:46:59 AND CONSTITUTIONS OF LAWS OF
09/23/09 18:47:01 THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
09/23/09 18:47:02 SECOND THREE THAT OTHER PROPER
09/23/09 18:47:05 OFFICER OF THE CITY OF TAMPA
09/23/09 18:47:06 ARE AUTHORIZED TO DO ALL THINGS
09/23/09 18:47:09 NECESSARY AND
09/23/09 18:47:12 PROPER TO CARRY
09/23/09 18:47:15 OUT AND MAKE
09/23/09 18:47:16 EFFECTIVE TERMS ON
09/23/09 18:47:17 CONDITIONS UPON THIS RESOLUTION
09/23/09 18:47:17 THAT BECOMES
09/23/09 18:47:20 EFFECTIVE.IMMEDIATELY UPON THE
09/23/09 18:47:20 ADOPTION.
09/23/09 18:47:21 >> IT WILL BE PASSED AND
09/23/09 18:47:22 ADOPTED ON TODAY'S DATE.
09/23/09 18:47:25 >> IS THAT NECESSARY TO READ?
09/23/09 18:47:28 >> I DON'T THINK
09/23/09 18:47:29 THAT WE HAVE
09/23/09 18:47:33 READ
09/23/09 18:47:35 THE MAIN QUESTION .
09/23/09 18:47:35 >> OKAY.
09/23/09 18:47:35 MOTION HAS BEEN MADE.
09/23/09 18:47:39 SECOND
09/23/09 18:47:41 BY COUNCIL MIRANDA.
09/23/09 18:47:44 NOW WE NEED TO TAKE UP
09/23/09 18:47:46 ORDNANCE
09/23/09 18:47:47 3. SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
09/23/09 18:47:47 >> AS SUBSTITUTED IS THAT
09/23/09 18:47:50 CORRECT?
09/23/09 18:47:53 >>
09/23/09 18:47:55 COUNCIL MAN MIRANDA?
09/23/09 18:47:56 >> DO YOU HAVE THE CORRECT
09/23/09 18:47:59 ORDNANCE
09/23/09 18:48:00 ?
09/23/09 18:48:01 >> CHAIRMAN, I'M PRESENTED FOR
09/23/09 18:48:01 SECOND READING SUBSTITUTED
09/23/09 18:48:04 ORDNANCE.
09/23/09 18:48:07 ORDNANCE ADOPTING
09/23/09 18:48:08 BUDGET OFFICE
09/23/09 18:48:11 CALL YEAR BEGINNING
09/23/09 18:48:12 OCTOBER 1,
09/23/09 18:48:14 2009 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30,
09/23/09 18:48:16 2010 AS PRESENTED BY THE MAYOR
09/23/09 18:48:19 AS PROVIDED BY LAW ON A TAX OF
09/23/09 18:48:22 ALL TAXABLE PROPERTIES
09/23/09 18:48:24 IN CITY
09/23/09 18:48:25 OF TAMPA AND FIXING MILLAGE
09/23/09 18:48:27 MAKING APPROPRIATIONS IN
09/23/09 18:48:28 ACCORDANCE WITH THE SAID BUDGET
09/23/09 18:48:31 AS THE PROPER AUTHORITYS OF
09/23/09 18:48:32 THE
09/23/09 18:48:34 CITY OF TAMPA TO CERTIFY THE
09/23/09 18:48:34 PROPERTY APPRAISER OF
09/23/09 18:48:35 HILLSBOROUGH, COUNTY FLORIDA
09/23/09 18:48:37 THE MILLAGE TO BE LEVIED FOR
09/23/09 18:48:40 ALL PURPOSES OF THE FISCAL
09/23/09 18:48:41 YEAR
09/23/09 18:48:44 2010 AND THE CITY OF TAMPA
09/23/09 18:48:47 PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE.
09/23/09 18:48:47 >> MOVE TO SECOND.
09/23/09 18:48:50 SECOND MY COUCILWOMAN
09/23/09 18:48:51 MULHERN.
09/23/09 18:48:52 ALL IN FAVOR SAY I.
09/23/09 18:48:52 >> I.
09/23/09 18:48:52 >> ROLL CALL.
09/23/09 18:49:03 >> CAETANO.
09/23/09 18:49:03 >> YES.
09/23/09 18:49:04 >> SAUL-SENA.
09/23/09 18:49:04 >> YES.
09/23/09 18:49:04 >> MILLER?
09/23/09 18:49:07 >>
09/23/09 18:49:12 YES.
09/23/09 18:49:12 >> MIRANDA
09/23/09 18:49:12 >> YES.
09/23/09 18:49:12 >> DINGFELDER.
09/23/09 18:49:13 >> YES.
09/23/09 18:49:14 >> MOTION CARRIED .
09/23/09 18:49:17 >> DO WE NEED TO TAKE UP ITEM
09/23/09 18:49:17 FOUR?
09/23/09 18:49:20 >> I BELIEVE IT IS
09/23/09 18:49:21 NECESSARY TO
09/23/09 18:49:22 MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
09/23/09 18:49:22 >> SECOND.
09/23/09 18:49:24 >> MOVE BY COUNCIL MAN MIRANDA.
09/23/09 18:49:27 SECOND BY COUCILWOMAN SAUL-
09/23/09 18:49:27 SENA.
09/23/09 18:49:30 ALL IN FAVOR
09/23/09 18:49:32 IS IT ROLL CALL
09/23/09 18:49:33 AGAIN?
09/23/09 18:49:34 SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
09/23/09 18:49:35 >> I.
09/23/09 18:49:36 >> OPPOSES?
09/23/09 18:49:39 NOW WE GO
09/23/09 18:49:41 TO MOTION TO
09/23/09 18:49:42 RECONSIDER.
09/23/09 18:49:45 IT IS TO RECONSIDER YOUR
09/23/09 18:49:49 PRIOR
09/23/09 18:49:49 VOTE.
09/23/09 18:49:50 SECOND BY COUCILWOMAN MILLER
09/23/09 18:49:50 SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
09/23/09 18:49:53 >> OPPOSES.
09/23/09 18:49:55 >> NEIGH.
09/23/09 18:49:58 >> I WOULD LIKE
09/23/09 18:50:01 TO RAISE A
09/23/09 18:50:01 COUPLE QUESTIONS.
09/23/09 18:50:04 I GUESS I NEED TO
09/23/09 18:50:06 HEAR
09/23/09 18:50:08 CLARIFICATION ON THE PARKS
09/23/09 18:50:10 IDENTIFIED LAST WEEK WHAT WOULD
09/23/09 18:50:13 BE THE COST ON THOSE ITEMS.
09/23/09 18:50:15 IN OTHER WORDS, FOR DAVIS
09/23/09 18:50:16 ALAND, FOR WILLIAMS PARK, FOR
09/23/09 18:50:19 FREEDOM PARK, I THINK WE HAD A
09/23/09 18:50:22 PARK IN THERE --WHAT IS
09/23/09 18:50:25 THE
09/23/09 18:50:25 COST?
09/23/09 18:50:26 DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON
09/23/09 18:50:28 THOSE COSTS?
09/23/09 18:50:29 >> GOOD EVENING AGAIN.
09/23/09 18:50:30 PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
09/23/09 18:50:33 AS I MENTIONED WE DO NOT
09/23/09 18:50:33 HAVE
09/23/09 18:50:36 ALL THE NUMBERS
09/23/09 18:50:37 ON THE
09/23/09 18:50:38 DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
09/23/09 18:50:41 WILLIAMS IS UNDER REVIEW,
09/23/09 18:50:41 AS
09/23/09 18:50:41 WEL
09/23/09 18:50:43 WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT PRIOR.
09/23/09 18:50:46 ROY JENKINS IS
09/23/09 18:50:46 UNDER
09/23/09 18:50:46 FEASIBILITY STUDY.
09/23/09 18:50:47 HIDE PARK I'LL HAVE TO GET
09/23/09 18:50:47 UPDATED NUMBER.
09/23/09 18:50:49 FRIENDSHIP WE HAVE SEVERAL
09/23/09 18:50:51 DIFFERENT NUMBER BUT WE DO NOT
09/23/09 18:50:52 HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO THE
09/23/09 18:50:55 OVERALLING BUILDING RENOVATION
09/23/09 18:50:56 AT THIS TIME.
09/23/09 18:50:58 TO GIVE YOU ACTUAL FIGURES I
09/23/09 18:50:59 NEED MORE TIME.
09/23/09 18:51:02 >> SO WE DON'T ACTUALLY
09/23/09 18:51:02 KNOW
09/23/09 18:51:03 WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.
09/23/09 18:51:04 >> CORRECT.
09/23/09 18:51:06 THAT'S WHAT I SAID BEFORE.
09/23/09 18:51:07 I HAVE SOME BALLPARKS ON A FEW
09/23/09 18:51:09 OF THOSE AREAS BUT NOT
09/23/09 18:51:11 SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS THAT SAY
09/23/09 18:51:13 YES THIS IS THE NUMBER READY TO
09/23/09 18:51:14 MOVE FORWARD.
09/23/09 18:51:17 THIS IS
09/23/09 18:51:18 HOW MUCH IT WILL COST.
09/23/09 18:51:21 >> I GUESS MY NEXT QUESTION IS
09/23/09 18:51:21 TO COUNCIL.
09/23/09 18:51:24 THAT IS, SHOULD A MOTION
09/23/09 18:51:25 PASS,
09/23/09 18:51:27 I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO
09/23/09 18:51:30 MIND TO SPLIT A MILLION
09/23/09 18:51:31 FOR THE
09/23/09 18:51:34 PARKS AND A
09/23/09 18:51:36 MILLION FOR ZACH.
09/23/09 18:51:38 HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHAT GOES
09/23/09 18:51:39 WHERE?
09/23/09 18:51:42 GIVEN THE FACT AS POINTED
09/23/09 18:51:43 OUT
09/23/09 18:51:46 THAT WE CANNOT
09/23/09 18:51:49 DICTATE TO THE
09/23/09 18:51:52 ADMINISTRATION HOW
09/23/09 18:51:53 TO SPEND
09/23/09 18:51:53 THAT MONEY.
09/23/09 18:51:54 MY CONCERN IS --I HEARD
09/23/09 18:51:57 $360,000 OUT OF THE
09/23/09 18:52:00 MILLION.
09/23/09 18:52:01 SO FORTH AND SO ON.
09/23/09 18:52:04 THAT'S A THOUGHT FOR
09/23/09 18:52:10 COUNCIL.
09/23/09 18:52:31 >> THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MY
09/23/09 18:52:33 PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE A MILLION
09/23/09 18:52:36 DOLLARS RESTORED TO PARKS AND
09/23/09 18:52:38 RECREATION AND THAT WE HAVE A
09/23/09 18:52:39 MILLION DEDICATED TO ZACH
09/23/09 18:52:40 AVENUE OF THE ARTS.
09/23/09 18:52:42 THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, WORKING
09/23/09 18:52:43 WITH THE COMMUNITY WOULD
09/23/09 18:52:46 PRIORITIZE ALL OF THOSE
09/23/09 18:52:48 PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE
09/23/09 18:52:48 FOR NOW.
09/23/09 18:52:50 THE NEW $2 MILLION AS WELL AS
09/23/09 18:52:53 ANALYZE THOSE THAT WE MIGHT
09/23/09 18:52:53 NOT
09/23/09 18:52:55 BE ABLE TO AFFORD AND TRY TO
09/23/09 18:52:57 SCHEDULE THOSE FOR THE NEXT
09/23/09 18:52:59 FIVE YEARS CIT CYCLE WHERE WE
09/23/09 18:53:02 WOULD MOVE AND PROGRESS LIKE
09/23/09 18:53:02 IN
09/23/09 18:53:03 THE PAST, WHERE WE HAD
09/23/09 18:53:03 MULTIMILLION PROJECTS.
09/23/09 18:53:05 >> I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE IT
09/23/09 18:53:07 UP TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION
09/23/09 18:53:09 AND LET THEM DECIDE HOW A
09/23/09 18:53:10 MILLION IS GOING TO WORK OUT.
09/23/09 18:53:12 I DON'T THINK IT WILL COVER
09/23/09 18:53:13 EVERYBODY.
09/23/09 18:53:16 >> THAT'S WHAT
09/23/09 18:53:19 I WAS SAYING.
09/23/09 18:53:21 LET ME JUST --A TECHNICAL
09/23/09 18:53:22 ISSUE HERE OR PROCEDURE ISSUE.
09/23/09 18:53:25 THAT IS BASED THAT OUR
09/23/09 18:53:27 ATTORNEY
09/23/09 18:53:31 IS STATING WE SHOULD
09/23/09 18:53:32 PICK UP
09/23/09 18:53:33 THE ORIGINAL MOTION FIRST.
09/23/09 18:53:35 >> IT BRINGS BACK COUNCIL
09/23/09 18:53:36 MEMBER SAUL-SENA ORIGINAL
09/23/09 18:53:36 MOTION.
09/23/09 18:53:37 YOU HAVE TWO-WAYS OF
09/23/09 18:53:37 APPROACHING.
09/23/09 18:53:39 TAKE ANOTHER VOTE ON THE MOTION
09/23/09 18:53:42 AND PUT THAT MATTER TO BED AND
09/23/09 18:53:43 FORM A NEW MOTION.
09/23/09 18:53:45 MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THAT,
09/23/09 18:53:48 VOTE ON THAT AND VOTE TO AMEND
09/23/09 18:53:49 ON THAT MOTION.
09/23/09 18:53:52 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT
09/23/09 18:53:52 CLARIFICATION.
09/23/09 18:53:55 THAT MAKES MY LIFE EASIER.
09/23/09 18:53:56 YOU'LL MOVE TO AMEND MISS SAUL-
09/23/09 18:53:59 SENA ORIGINAL MOTION AND MODIFY
09/23/09 18:54:02 IT TO
09/23/09 18:54:04 INSTEAD OF
09/23/09 18:54:07 $2 MILLION TO A A
09/23/09 18:54:08 MILLION
09/23/09 18:54:08 DOLLARS.
09/23/09 18:54:08 I'LL READ THE RESOLUTION
09/23/09 18:54:09 PREPARED.
09/23/09 18:54:09 RESOLUTION MAKING CERTAIN
09/23/09 18:54:12 CHANGES IN BUDGET FOR
09/23/09 18:54:13 THE CITY
09/23/09 18:54:16 OF TAMPA FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING
09/23/09 18:54:19 SEPTEMBER 30,
09/23/09 18:54:20 2010 IN
09/23/09 18:54:21 APPROPRIATION OF ONE MILLION
09/23/09 18:54:24 WITHIN THE
09/23/09 18:54:25 COMMUNITY INVESTMENT
09/23/09 18:54:25 TAX.
09/23/09 18:54:25 FY 07 TO 11 FUND.
09/23/09 18:54:29 FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS IN PARK
09/23/09 18:54:30 RECREATION AND NEIGHBORHOOD
09/23/09 18:54:31 PROJECTS PROVIDED EFFECTIVE
09/23/09 18:54:31 DATE.
09/23/09 18:54:33 AT THE BOTTOM, INSTEAD OF AS IT
09/23/09 18:54:35 READ PREVIOUSLY, IT TRANSFERRED
09/23/09 18:54:37 FROM ZACH STREET TO PARK PLEASE
09/23/09 18:54:38 PRESS STAR RECK.
09/23/09 18:54:41 PREVIOUSLY
09/23/09 18:54:43 IT READ TWO MILLION.
09/23/09 18:54:46 NOW IT WILL READ ONE
09/23/09 18:54:52 MILLION.
09/23/09 18:55:22 >> SO
09/23/09 18:55:23 WE NEED VOTE TO AMEND?
09/23/09 18:55:24 >> YES.
09/23/09 18:55:25 >> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT
09/23/09 18:55:27 MR. DINGFELDER I KNOW WE TRY TO
09/23/09 18:55:28 MEET EVERYONE'S NEEDS.
09/23/09 18:55:31 IF WE WERE TO TRULY MEET PARKS
09/23/09 18:55:33 AND RECKS NEEDS WE'D NEED THE
09/23/09 18:55:36 ENTIRETY OF THE MONEY THAT'S
09/23/09 18:55:39 WHY I WON'T ABLE
09/23/09 18:55:39 TO SUPPORT
09/23/09 18:55:39 THIS.
09/23/09 18:55:42 >> I WAS
09/23/09 18:55:43 VERY SURPRISED LAST
09/23/09 18:55:45 WEEK WHEN COUCILWOMAN SAUL-SENA
09/23/09 18:55:45 MADE THE MOTION.
09/23/09 18:55:49 I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT
09/23/09 18:55:49 COUNCIL
09/23/09 18:55:50 WAS BEING A LITTLE MORE
09/23/09 18:55:51 PROACTIVE WITH THE BUDGET.
09/23/09 18:55:54 I REALIZE THAT WE CAN'T MAKE IT
09/23/09 18:55:57 HAPPEN BUT WE CAN ASK THAT IT
09/23/09 18:55:57 HAPPEN.
09/23/09 18:55:58 I DON'T SEE JUSTIFICATION.
09/23/09 18:56:00 WE HAVE SO MANY NEEDS AND WE
09/23/09 18:56:03 ONLY HEARD ABOUT A FEW
09/23/09 18:56:04 OF THEM
09/23/09 18:56:08 FROM A FEW PEOPLE WHO ARE
09/23/09 18:56:08 ALMOST ALL FROM SOUTH TAMPA.
09/23/09 18:56:09 PARKS AND RECREATION
09/23/09 18:56:10 DEPARTMENT, THE NEIGHBORHOODS
09/23/09 18:56:12 NEED A LOT OF MONEY.
09/23/09 18:56:15 I DIDN'T SEE ANY
09/23/09 18:56:16 REASON THAT WE
09/23/09 18:56:19 SHOULD GIVE
09/23/09 18:56:19 A MILLION DOLLARS
09/23/09 18:56:22 OR KEEP THAT MILLION DOLLARS
09/23/09 18:56:24 FOR TWO-WAYING A STREET, WHICH
09/23/09 18:56:25 I READ YOU THE QUOTE.
09/23/09 18:56:26 IT WASN'T VERY CONVINCING.
09/23/09 18:56:29 MAYBE I DIDN'T READ IT WELL
09/23/09 18:56:29 ENOUGH.
09/23/09 18:56:31 THAT'S WHY I'M NOT GOING TO
09/23/09 18:56:31 SUPPORT THIS.
09/23/09 18:56:33 I'M TOTALLY IN SUPPORT OF
09/23/09 18:56:36 GIVING MONEY TO PARKS AND
09/23/09 18:56:36 RECREATION.
09/23/09 18:56:39 I DON'T THINK IN THIS CRUNCH
09/23/09 18:56:42 TIME THAT WE SHOULD BE SPENDING
09/23/09 18:56:45 THAT MUCH MONEY ON
09/23/09 18:56:46 SOMETHING
09/23/09 18:56:46 THAT I DON'T THINK IS GOING
09/23/09 18:56:47 NECESSARILY BENEFIT US
09/23/09 18:56:48 IMMEDIATELY.
09/23/09 18:56:51 IT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO LATER
09/23/09 18:56:53 AFTER WE HAVE OUR NEW PARKS AND
09/23/09 18:56:55 CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS OPENED.
09/23/09 18:56:57 >> SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR
09/23/09 18:56:59 IS TO AMEND THE ORIGINAL
09/23/09 18:56:59 MOTION.
09/23/09 18:57:02 THAT WAS SECOND
09/23/09 18:57:04 BY COUNCIL
09/23/09 18:57:05 MIRANDA.
09/23/09 18:57:08 ALL IN FAVOR
09/23/09 18:57:10 SIGNIFY BY SAYING
09/23/09 18:57:10 I.
09/23/09 18:57:10 >> I.
09/23/09 18:57:14 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH
09/23/09 18:57:15 SAUL-
09/23/09 18:57:16 SENA AND MULHERN VOTING NO.
09/23/09 18:57:18 >> NOW TO SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION
09/23/09 18:57:22 BY COUNCIL DINGFELDER
09/23/09 18:57:23 THAT WAS
09/23/09 18:57:23 READ.
09/23/09 18:57:24 >> MAKE MOTION TO MOVE
09/23/09 18:57:24 RESOLUTION.
09/23/09 18:57:24 >> SECOND.
09/23/09 18:57:25 PREPARED FROM THE MILLION
09/23/09 18:57:28 DOLLARS FROM ZACH STREET FUND
09/23/09 18:57:30 TO THE PARKS AND RECK FUND.
09/23/09 18:57:32 >> I COMPROMISE.
09/23/09 18:57:32 SECOND.
09/23/09 18:57:35 >> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
09/23/09 18:57:35 SECOND
09/23/09 18:57:37 THAT WE MOVE THE RESOLUTION
09/23/09 18:57:39 SECOND BY COUNCIL MAN MIRANDA
09/23/09 18:57:42 ALL IN FIVE
09/23/09 18:57:47 SAY I.
09/23/09 18:57:47 >> I.
09/23/09 18:57:48 >> OPPOSES?
09/23/09 18:57:48 >> NO.
09/23/09 18:57:49 >> MOTION CARRIED WITH SAUL-
09/23/09 18:57:49 SENA AND MULHERN VOTING NO.
09/23/09 18:57:51 >> ANY OTHER ACTION WE NEED TO
09/23/09 18:57:53 TAKE WITH THE BUDGET?
09/23/09 18:57:54 >> OFFICIAL ACTION ON THE
09/23/09 18:57:55 BUDGET IS COMPLETE.
09/23/09 18:57:58 NOW ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS
09/23/09 18:57:59 IN
09/23/09 18:57:59 FRONT OF YOU.
09/23/09 18:58:01 IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE?
09/23/09 18:58:03 >> IF I CAN ADDRESS COUNCIL ON
09/23/09 18:58:04 ITEM FIVE.
09/23/09 18:58:04 >> COUCILWOMAN SAUL-SENA HAD
09/23/09 18:58:05 HER HAND UP.
09/23/09 18:58:08 >> IT WAS ABOUT THE GOAL FOR
09/23/09 18:58:09 THE CITY.
09/23/09 18:58:12 I HOPE THAT NEXT
09/23/09 18:58:12 YEAR WHEN THE
09/23/09 18:58:15 ADMINISTRATION DEVELOPS GOALS
09/23/09 18:58:18 THAT THE WORD
09/23/09 18:58:19 SUSTAINABLITY
09/23/09 18:58:19 OCCURS SOMEWHERE IN OUR CITY
09/23/09 18:58:20 GOALS.
09/23/09 18:58:21 >> ITEM FIVE.
09/23/09 18:58:21 OPEN LETTER.
09/23/09 18:58:22 >> MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBER OF
09/23/09 18:58:24 COUNCIL BASED ON THE LETTER
09/23/09 18:58:26 THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU BY
09/23/09 18:58:29 MR. FLETCHER AT THE
09/23/09 18:58:29 LAST
09/23/09 18:58:31 MEETING, WITH THE HELP OF MARY,
09/23/09 18:58:33 I'D LIKE TO THANK, I HAVE
09/23/09 18:58:35 PREPARED OR SHE HAS PREPARED ON
09/23/09 18:58:38 CITY LETTER HEAD
09/23/09 18:58:39 THAT LETTER,
09/23/09 18:58:40 THE EXACT TEXT AS PREVIOUSLY
09/23/09 18:58:40 PRESENTED.
09/23/09 18:58:44 IN FRONT OF
09/23/09 18:58:45 YOU YOU HAVE A
09/23/09 18:58:45 DRAFT COPY.
09/23/09 18:58:48 I WOULD LIKE
09/23/09 18:58:49 YOU TO CONSIDER
09/23/09 18:58:51 THE FIRST SENTENCE OF THE
09/23/09 18:58:51 SECOND PARAGRAPH.
09/23/09 18:58:54 WHILE THERE ARE
09/23/09 18:58:55 FOUR BARGAINING
09/23/09 18:58:58 UNITS THERE ARE
09/23/09 18:58:59 THREE LABOR
09/23/09 18:58:59 UNIONS.
09/23/09 18:59:02 FOR THAT
09/23/09 18:59:06 REASON, I HAVE
09/23/09 18:59:06 PREPARED AN ORIGINAL THAT
09/23/09 18:59:09 STATES THREE LABOR
09/23/09 18:59:13 UNION.
09/23/09 18:59:14 THEY ARE IDENTICAL WITH
09/23/09 18:59:14 SIGNATURE LINES FOR COUNCIL
09/23/09 18:59:14 SIGNATURES.
09/23/09 18:59:17 >> I
09/23/09 18:59:19 BELIEVE THE FOURTH IS THE
09/23/09 18:59:21 LIEUTENANT AND THE POLICE
09/23/09 18:59:22 DEPARTMENT.
09/23/09 18:59:23 DO THEY HAVE CORRECTIVE
09/23/09 18:59:26 BARGAINING WITH THE
09/23/09 18:59:27 REGULAR
09/23/09 18:59:28 OFFICERS?
09/23/09 18:59:30 >> THEY DO.
09/23/09 18:59:31 THERE ARE FOUR COLLECTIVE
09/23/09 18:59:32 BARGAINING AGREEMENTS.
09/23/09 18:59:35 BOTH LIEUTENANTS AND THE PATROL
09/23/09 18:59:35 OFFICERS ARE WITHIN THE PDA
09/23/09 18:59:36 >> I WANTED THAT FOR CLARITY U.
09/23/09 18:59:38 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09/23/09 18:59:41 >> WE DON'T
09/23/09 18:59:42 NEED TO TAKE AN
09/23/09 18:59:42 ACTION DO WE?
09/23/09 18:59:45 NO JUST SIGNATURE.
09/23/09 19:00:49 >> I SEE
09/23/09 19:00:52 ONE OF THEM,
09/23/09 19:00:52 SPENCER
09/23/09 19:00:55 IS HERE MARK WAS HERE
09/23/09 19:00:56 EARLIER.
09/23/09 19:00:59 I HOPE YOU
09/23/09 19:01:02 KNOW
09/23/09 19:01:04 THAT WE ALL
09/23/09 19:01:05 APPRECIATED YOUR WORK.
09/23/09 19:01:07 WE REALLY LISTENED AND --I
09/23/09 19:01:09 MEAN WE DIDN'T QUESTION THIS
09/23/09 19:01:10 BUDGET VERY MUCH.
09/23/09 19:01:13 IT WAS BASED
09/23/09 19:01:15 ON YOUR
09/23/09 19:01:15 RECOMMENDATION THAT WE START
09/23/09 19:01:16 MORE LONG TERM PLANNING AND
09/23/09 19:01:19 UNFORTUNATELY NEXT YEAR
09/23/09 19:01:20 IS
09/23/09 19:01:23 PROBABLY GOING TO
09/23/09 19:01:26 BE WORSE.
09/23/09 19:01:29 WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK
09/23/09 19:01:30 AT NEXT
09/23/09 19:01:30 YEAR'S BUDGET.
09/23/09 19:01:31 ALSO, I FORGOT TO ASK MY
09/23/09 19:01:32 QUESTION TO DARRELL SMITH.
09/23/09 19:01:34 IT IS NOT A QUESTION ANYMORE.
09/23/09 19:01:35 NOW THAT I HAVE STARTED GOING
09/23/09 19:01:38 OVER THE
09/23/09 19:01:41 BUDGET SUPPLEMENT
09/23/09 19:01:42 I
09/23/09 19:01:43 HAVE MY ANSWERS TO ALL THE
09/23/09 19:01:43 CONTRACTS.
09/23/09 19:01:46 THE
09/23/09 19:01:48 PRIVATETIZED CONTRACTS.
09/23/09 19:01:49 I'M GOING TO COME UP WITH THOSE
09/23/09 19:01:52 NUMBERS
09/23/09 19:01:55 . NOW YOU NEED TO GET ME
09/23/09 19:01:56 THE NUMBERS OF THE LAYOFFS
09/23/09 19:01:58 THERE WERE, JOBS ELIMINATED AND
09/23/09 19:01:59 HOW MUCH MONEY WE SAVED ON
09/23/09 19:01:59 THAT.
09/23/09 19:02:02 AS I GO THROUGH
09/23/09 19:02:05 THIS BUDGET
09/23/09 19:02:08 THERE IS A LOT
09/23/09 19:02:10 OF MONEY SPENT
09/23/09 19:02:10 ON CONTRACTUAL SERVICES.
09/23/09 19:02:13 I FEEL WE NEED TO BE
09/23/09 19:02:15 SHOWN THAT
09/23/09 19:02:17 AS PEOPLE LOOSE JOBS, WE LOOSE
09/23/09 19:02:18 LONG-TERM EMPLOYEES AND WE GO
09/23/09 19:02:19 RESPONSIBILITIES TO THE PRIVATE
09/23/09 19:02:21 SECTOR, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT WE
09/23/09 19:02:24 REALLY ARE IN THE LONG TERM
09/23/09 19:02:26 SAVING MONEY DOING THAT.
09/23/09 19:02:27 THAT'S JUST THE BEGINNING SO
09/23/09 19:02:28 SEE THAT WORK.
09/23/09 19:02:29 THAT WE ARE SAVING THE MONEY.
09/23/09 19:02:32 I HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET.
09/23/09 19:02:35 THE BUDGET SUPPLEMENT IS
09/23/09 19:02:38 A
09/23/09 19:02:38 START.
09/23/09 19:02:39 THANK YOU BONNIE FOR GETTING
09/23/09 19:02:39 THAT TO US.
09/23/09 19:02:40 >> COUNCIL DINGFELDER.
09/23/09 19:02:41 >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
09/23/09 19:02:44 >> LATE THIS AFTERNOON I GOT A
09/23/09 19:02:47 CALL FROM A GENTLEMEN WHO IS A
09/23/09 19:02:47 RETIRED FIREMAN.
09/23/09 19:02:51 I DON'T KNOW
09/23/09 19:02:51 IF Y'ALL HAVE
09/23/09 19:02:52 TALKED TO HIM.
09/23/09 19:02:54 HE IS AN INTELLIGENT GENTLEMAN.
09/23/09 19:02:57 HE SAID WE ARE PAYING $3
09/23/09 19:02:58 MILLION INTO POLICE AND FIRE
09/23/09 19:03:00 FUND TO SUPPLEMENT THE DEATHS
09/23/09 19:03:02 THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED OVER THE
09/23/09 19:03:04 PAST COUPLE OF YEARS WITH THE
09/23/09 19:03:07 STOCK MARKET SHORT
09/23/09 19:03:07 FALL.
09/23/09 19:03:08 HE SAID THERE ARE ACCOUNTS
09/23/09 19:03:09 MECHANISMS AND BOOKKEEPING
09/23/09 19:03:11 MECHANISMS THAT WERE WAY OVER
09/23/09 19:03:13 MY HEAD THAT COULD REDUCE THAT
09/23/09 19:03:14 IN THE FUTURE.
09/23/09 19:03:16 I DIDN'T WANT TO BRING IT UP
09/23/09 19:03:16 DURING BUDGET.
09/23/09 19:03:20 FRANKLY IT IS NOTHING WE
09/23/09 19:03:20 CAN
09/23/09 19:03:23 DEAL WITH TONIGHT.
09/23/09 19:03:25 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS HAVE
09/23/09 19:03:28 MISS WISE AND CINDY
09/23/09 19:03:28 MILLER,
09/23/09 19:03:30 BECAUSE SHE SITS ON THE BOARD,
09/23/09 19:03:32 AND A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE
09/23/09 19:03:35 BODY ITSELF DO A
09/23/09 19:03:37 WORKSHOP WITH
09/23/09 19:03:40 US ON
09/23/09 19:03:42 THAT THE POLICE AND FIRE
09/23/09 19:03:45 BUDGET TRUSTFUND ISSUE
09/23/09 19:03:47 . EXPLAIN
09/23/09 19:03:50 IT AS BASIC
09/23/09 19:03:51 AS POSSIBLE.
09/23/09 19:03:55 LET US KNOW IF
09/23/09 19:03:56 THERE IS
09/23/09 19:03:59 ANYTHING WE CAN DO OR ENCOURAGE
09/23/09 19:04:02 POLICE AND TRUST
09/23/09 19:04:05 FUND BOARD TO
09/23/09 19:04:06 REDUCE THE CITY'S ONLY GAME --
09/23/09 19:04:06 OBLIGATION.
09/23/09 19:04:07 NOTHING TONIGHT.
09/23/09 19:04:07 NO URGENCY.
09/23/09 19:04:09 WE HAVE TIME ON THIS.
09/23/09 19:04:12 I
09/23/09 19:04:13 DON'T KNOW WHEN OUR NEXT
09/23/09 19:04:16 AVAILABLE BUDGET WORKSHOP MIGHT
09/23/09 19:04:16 BE.
09/23/09 19:04:17 DECEMBER?
09/23/09 19:04:17 JANUARY?
09/23/09 19:04:20 AS FAR
09/23/09 19:04:22 AS OPENED TIME PERIOD.
09/23/09 19:04:22 NOT BUDGET WORKSHOP JUST
09/23/09 19:04:25 WORKSHOP GENERAL
09/23/09 19:04:31 GENERALLY
09/23/09 19:04:41 .
09/23/09 19:04:44 >> FOR DECEMBER 2009 YOU HAVE
09/23/09 19:04:45 A
09/23/09 19:04:46 WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR 11:00 TO
09/23/09 19:04:48 DISCUSS DROUGHT TOLERANT AND
09/23/09 19:04:51 SUSTAINABLE PLANTS TO
09/23/09 19:04:52 BE
09/23/09 19:04:53 CONSIDERED BY THE CITY.
09/23/09 19:04:56 POLICE OFFICER OF
09/23/09 19:04:58 THE MONTH
09/23/09 19:04:59 ACCOMMODATIONS.
09/23/09 19:05:01 >> SO DECEMBER WILL BE OPENED
09/23/09 19:05:03 WHAT TIME?
09/23/09 19:05:03 9:30?
09/23/09 19:05:06 >> YOU HAVE CRA STARTING
09/23/09 19:05:07 AT
09/23/09 19:05:08 9:00.
09/23/09 19:05:10 WORKSHOP STARTS AT 11:00.
09/23/09 19:05:11 JANUARY WORKSHOP NOTHING IS
09/23/09 19:05:11 SCHEDULED.
09/23/09 19:05:12 >> SCHEDULE IT FOR JANUARY.
09/23/09 19:05:15 THAT
09/23/09 19:05:17 IS JANUARY 28th.
09/23/09 19:05:20 DO YOU WANT THAT AT 9:00 9:00?
09/23/09 19:05:31 >> CHAIRMAN FOR RECORD, I MET
09/23/09 19:05:34 WITH THAT GENTLEMEN.
09/23/09 19:05:36 HE IS INTELLIGENT AND WELL
09/23/09 19:05:38 KNOWLEDGED IN THE AREA.
09/23/09 19:05:40 HOWEVER, I DID SPEAK WITH MISS
09/23/09 19:05:41 WISE BRIEFLY.
09/23/09 19:05:44 LOOKING AT THE FUNDED
09/23/09 19:05:45 AND THE
09/23/09 19:05:48 UNFUNDED TO FUND THE
09/23/09 19:05:48 FUNDED.
09/23/09 19:05:49 IT SOUNDS CONFUSING.
09/23/09 19:05:52 YOU CANNOT TAKE, IN MY
09/23/09 19:05:55 ESTIMATE, MONEY FROM OUTDATED
09/23/09 19:05:56 FUTURE DATES OF FUNDING OF
09/23/09 19:05:59 UNFUNDED SOURCES RIGHT NOW
09/23/09 19:05:59 TO
09/23/09 19:06:00 SUPPLEMENT THE RETIREMENTS OF
09/23/09 19:06:01 THE FUNDED.
09/23/09 19:06:03 IT GETS CONFUSING.
09/23/09 19:06:04 BUT IF YOU START TAKING MONEY
09/23/09 19:06:06 FROM FUTURE RETIREMENT DEBTS
09/23/09 19:06:08 THAT THE CITY HAS, AND IT IS A
09/23/09 19:06:10 DEBT, SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE,
09/23/09 19:06:12 I'M NOT SAYING HE'S RIGHT OR
09/23/09 19:06:14 WRONG, I'M JUST SAYING PASS IT
09/23/09 19:06:17 ON TO THOSE WHO WORK WITH THOSE
09/23/09 19:06:17 NUMBERS.
09/23/09 19:06:18 I DON'T.
09/23/09 19:06:20 THE ONLY THING I QUESTIONED WAS
09/23/09 19:06:23 HOW CAN
09/23/09 19:06:25 YOU HAVE UNFUNDED AND I
09/23/09 19:06:27 THINK THE FIGURE WAS
09/23/09 19:06:29 $269 MILLION, THERE WAS
09/23/09 19:06:32 $71 MILLION TAKEN AWAY FROM
09/23/09 19:06:34 $300 PLUS MILLION OF THE
09/23/09 19:06:35 UNFUNDED MAS OF THE CITY FOR
09/23/09 19:06:35 THE FUTURE.
09/23/09 19:06:38 THOSE ARE THINGS I QUESTIONED
09/23/09 19:06:41 WHEN I
09/23/09 19:06:43 HAD THE DISCUSSION WITH
09/23/09 19:06:43 HIM.
09/23/09 19:06:46 HE IS NICE AND
09/23/09 19:06:47 KNOWLEDGEABLE.
09/23/09 19:06:50 >> I GUESS
09/23/09 19:06:53 I NEVER TALKED ABOUT
09/23/09 19:06:53 THIS AT COUNCIL.
09/23/09 19:06:56 AS FINANCE CHAIR AND BUDGET
09/23/09 19:06:59 ADVISORY COMMITTEE I SPENT A
09/23/09 19:07:00 LOT OF TIME GOING OVER THE
09/23/09 19:07:03 POLICE AND
09/23/09 19:07:06 FIRE PENSION
09/23/09 19:07:07 FUND.
09/23/09 19:07:11 I READ THEIR MINUTES
09/23/09 19:07:11 FROM THEIR
09/23/09 19:07:11 MEETINGS.
09/23/09 19:07:12 I TALKED TO BONNIE AND THE
09/23/09 19:07:14 ADVICE BONNIE GAVE ME, WHICH I
09/23/09 19:07:16 HADN'T TAKEN BECAUSE I DID THE
09/23/09 19:07:19 RESEARCH AT THAT POINT, WAS TO
09/23/09 19:07:22 GO TO
09/23/09 19:07:24 THE PUBLIC POLICE AND
09/23/09 19:07:27 FIRE PENSION FUND BOARD MEETING
09/23/09 19:07:33 S. THERE IS
09/23/09 19:07:36 NO WAY WE CAN GET
09/23/09 19:07:36 THIS.
09/23/09 19:07:37 BONNIE ANSWERED ME QUESTIONS ON
09/23/09 19:07:40 HOW SHE COMES UP WITH
09/23/09 19:07:41 THE
09/23/09 19:07:42 PROJECTION FOR THAT.
09/23/09 19:07:43 THIS IS COMPLICATED.
09/23/09 19:07:45 MORE COMPLICATED THAN I
09/23/09 19:07:45 UNDERSTAND.
09/23/09 19:07:48 I'M NOT SAYING DON'T
09/23/09 19:07:49 HAVE A
09/23/09 19:07:49 WORKSHOP.
09/23/09 19:07:51 I'M JUST SAYING IT IS VERY,
09/23/09 19:07:54 VERY THICK AND I THINK, IF YOU
09/23/09 19:07:54 ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN IT
09/23/09 19:07:56 YOU'LL HAVE TO INVEST A LOT OF
09/23/09 19:07:59 TIME AND TALK TO A
09/23/09 19:07:59 LOT OF
09/23/09 19:08:03 PEOPLE AND DO A LOT OF READING.
09/23/09 19:08:04 >> THANK YOU.
09/23/09 19:08:07 I SPENT SOME TIME WITH
09/23/09 19:08:09 THIS
09/23/09 19:08:09 GENTLEMEN.
09/23/09 19:08:12 I THINK THAT HE HAS
09/23/09 19:08:13 SOME VERY
09/23/09 19:08:14 INTERESTING INSIGHTS.
09/23/09 19:08:16 I THINK WHAT WE ALL EACH NEED
09/23/09 19:08:18 TO DO, IT REQUIRES SO MUCH
09/23/09 19:08:20 UNDERSTANDING THAT WE EACH NEED
09/23/09 19:08:21 TO SPEND SOME TIME PERHAPS WITH
09/23/09 19:08:23 HIM LISTENING TO IT.
09/23/09 19:08:26 THEN I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE
09/23/09 19:08:27 A
09/23/09 19:08:27 WORKSHOP.
09/23/09 19:08:28 IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
09/23/09 19:08:31 SAVE OURSELF
09/23/09 19:08:34 $3 MILLION
09/23/09 19:08:37 IT IS
09/23/09 19:08:39 WORTH PUTTING ON OUR THINKING
09/23/09 19:08:40 CAPS AND DELVING.
09/23/09 19:08:43 >> MOVE TO HAVE A
09/23/09 19:08:44 WORKSHOP
09/23/09 19:08:45 JANUARY 28th.
09/23/09 19:08:47 ALL SAY I.
09/23/09 19:08:48 >> I.
09/23/09 19:08:51 >> DID YOU SET A TIME
09/23/09 19:08:52 FOR THAT?
09/23/09 19:08:52 >> 9:00.
09/23/09 19:08:55 >> THAT'S FINE.
09/23/09 19:08:58 >> MOTION TO RECEIVE AND
09/23/09 19:08:58 FILE.
09/23/09 19:08:59 >> SECOND.
09/23/09 19:08:59 >> ALL IN FAVOR.
09/23/09 19:09:00 OTHERWISE WE STAND ADJOURNED.
09/23/09 19:09:00 SEE Y'ALL TOMORROW MORNING
09/23/09 19:09:03 9:00.