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Tampa City Council
Thursday, October 1, 2009
9:00 a.m. session

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10/01/09 09:04:28 >>> GOOD MORNING.
10/01/09 09:04:31 TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW
10/01/09 09:04:31 COME
10/01/09 09:04:32 TO ORDER.
10/01/09 09:04:33 >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
10/01/09 09:04:36 I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE
10/01/09 09:04:37 AND
10/01/09 09:04:38 THANK QUARTERBACK JAMES REESE
10/01/09 09:04:41 FROM THE
10/01/09 09:04:42 UNIVERSITY OF
10/01/09 09:04:42 MINNESOTA.
10/01/09 09:04:45 GO GOPHERS, UM, WHO WILL GIVE
10/01/09 09:04:47 OUR INVOCATION THIS MORNING.
10/01/09 09:04:53 >> THANK YOU.
10/01/09 09:04:55 WE GATHER HERE FOR THE PURPOSE
10/01/09 09:04:57 OF IMPROVING OUR AWARENESS.
10/01/09 09:04:57 IT
10/01/09 09:05:00 IS A SIMPLE GOAL INFORMED TO DO
10/01/09 09:05:02 --IN
10/01/09 09:05:05 ORDER TO DO THIS TASTE
10/01/09 09:05:06 TASK TO
10/01/09 09:05:07 THE
10/01/09 09:05:09 BEST OF OUR ABILITY, GRANT US
10/01/09 09:05:10 THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THINGS IN
10/01/09 09:05:12 THE CLEAR AMOUNT OF TRUTH.
10/01/09 09:05:14 HIGHEST IDEALS NEEDED TO WORK
10/01/09 09:05:16 WITH OUR FELLOW CITIZENS AND
10/01/09 09:05:17 WITH EACH OTHER.
10/01/09 09:05:19 PERMIT US TO WORK
10/01/09 09:05:19 CONSTRUCTIVELY.
10/01/09 09:05:21 OH FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK
10/01/09 09:05:23 KINDLY ON THIS GATHERING AND
10/01/09 09:05:24 GRANT US THE WISDOM TO SEE
10/01/09 09:05:26 EVENTS IN THEIR TRUE
10/01/09 09:05:27 PERSPECTIVE, NOT FOR OURSELVES
10/01/09 09:05:29 OR FOR MATERIAL GAIN, BUT RATHER
10/01/09 09:05:31 THAT WE MAY LEARN IN THOUGHT FOR
10/01/09 09:05:32 THE GAIN OF ALL.
10/01/09 09:05:34 LET US INCLINE OUR EARS TOWARDS
10/01/09 09:05:37 WISDOM AND APPLY OUR
10/01/09 09:05:38 HEARTS
10/01/09 09:05:38 TOWARDS UNDERSTANDING.
10/01/09 09:05:40 LET US SEEK KNOWLEDGE FOR THE
10/01/09 09:05:43 HOPE OF
10/01/09 09:05:45 FINDING UNDERSTANDING.
10/01/09 09:05:45 AMEN.
10/01/09 09:05:45 >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE
10/01/09 09:05:47 FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF
10/01/09 09:05:49 AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR
10/01/09 09:05:52 WHICH IT STANDS,
10/01/09 09:05:55 ONE NATION
10/01/09 09:05:56 UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH
10/01/09 09:05:58 LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
10/01/09 09:06:00 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, THE UNIVERSITY
10/01/09 09:06:03 OF FLORIDA HAS TIM TEBOW, WE
10/01/09 09:06:06 HAVE JIM REESE.
10/01/09 09:06:06 >> THANK YOU.
10/01/09 09:06:06 [LAUGHTER]
10/01/09 09:06:09 >> THANKS,
10/01/09 09:06:09 JIM.
10/01/09 09:06:11 THANKS VERY MUCH, OKAY.
10/01/09 09:06:14 WE'LL HAVE ROLL
10/01/09 09:06:18 CALL.
10/01/09 09:06:21 >> CAETANO, MIRANDA,
10/01/09 09:06:23 MULHERN,
10/01/09 09:06:23 DINGFELDER, MILLER, SCOTT.
10/01/09 09:06:25 >> WE HAVE PUSHED BACK THE
10/01/09 09:06:27 CEREMONY ACTIVITIES THIS MORNING
10/01/09 09:06:27 FOR ANOTHER WEEK.
10/01/09 09:06:28 SO...
10/01/09 09:06:30 MOVE NOW TO UH, PUBLIC
10/01/09 09:06:30 COMMENT.
10/01/09 09:06:33 WELL
10/01/09 09:06:34 LET'S DO THE AGENDA
10/01/09 09:06:37 AND THEN WE'LL GO PUBLIC
10/01/09 09:06:37 COMMENT.
10/01/09 09:06:37 THANK YOU.
10/01/09 09:06:40 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN,
10/01/09 09:06:43 MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
10/01/09 09:06:44 TODAY'S AGENDA, MR. CHAIRMAN
10/01/09 09:06:47 JUST NOTED, THERE IS A
10/01/09 09:06:48 REQUEST
10/01/09 09:06:50 TO HAVE THE ITEM CONTINUED TO
10/01/09 09:06:53 THE CRA SESSION TO BE HELD ON
10/01/09 09:06:56 OCTOBER 8TH 2009 AT 9:00 A.M.
10/01/09 09:06:59 AND I BELIEVE UH, MADAME CHAIR,
10/01/09 09:07:02 YOU ARE THE CHAIR SO YOU
10/01/09 09:07:02 CAN
10/01/09 09:07:04 HAVE THAT ADDED TO THE AGENDA IF
10/01/09 09:07:04 YOU WISH.
10/01/09 09:07:06 >> IT'S ALREADY BEEN ADDED TO
10/01/09 09:07:06 THE AGENDA.
10/01/09 09:07:08 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10/01/09 09:07:11 MOVING ON, ITEM NUMBER
10/01/09 09:07:13 FIVE IS A
10/01/09 09:07:16 RESOLUTION REGARDING THE UH,
10/01/09 09:07:18 FRIENDSHIP TRAIL PROJECT.
10/01/09 09:07:18 LIKEWISE, ITEM 6.
10/01/09 09:07:20 BOTH ITEMS PER THE MEMORANDUM OF
10/01/09 09:07:23 THE BUDGET OFFICER IS TO ASK
10/01/09 09:07:26 THAT THAT BE UH, REMOVED
10/01/09 09:07:28 FROM
10/01/09 09:07:28 THE AGENDA.
10/01/09 09:07:31 THEN ITEM 9 IS A
10/01/09 09:07:33 RESOLUTION
10/01/09 09:07:34 REGARDING THE HILLSBOROUGH
10/01/09 09:07:36 COUNTY AVIATION AUTHORITY
10/01/09 09:07:39 AGREEMENT FOR AN UH, PEDESTRIAN
10/01/09 09:07:42 PATHWAY, PERIMETER FENCING.
10/01/09 09:07:45 THAT IS UH,
10/01/09 09:07:47 TO BE UM,
10/01/09 09:07:47 SUBSTITUTED.
10/01/09 09:07:49 THE UM, MAINTENANCE AND LICENSE
10/01/09 09:07:51 AGREEMENT ATTACH THE RESOLUTION
10/01/09 09:07:53 BE SUBSTITUTED.
10/01/09 09:07:56 ITEM 32 IS ALSO SIMILARLY
10/01/09 09:07:59 RELATED
10/01/09 09:08:01 TO THAT UM EASEMENT
10/01/09 09:08:04 AROUND THE PETER O'NIGHT
10/01/09 09:08:04 AIRPORT.
10/01/09 09:08:07 EXHIBIT A BE ATTACHED TO
10/01/09 09:08:07 THE
10/01/09 09:08:07 RESOLUTION.
10/01/09 09:08:08 EXHIBIT A.
10/01/09 09:08:11 THAT'S ITEM NUMBER
10/01/09 09:08:15 32.
10/01/09 09:08:18 THE NEXT ITEM IS
10/01/09 09:08:22 ITEM NUMBER 25.
10/01/09 09:08:25 THE RESOLUTION ON CONSENT DOCKET
10/01/09 09:08:26 CONFIRMING THE APPOINTMENT BY
10/01/09 09:08:29 THE MAYOR OF JANE CASTOR AS
10/01/09 09:08:29 POLICE CHIEF.
10/01/09 09:08:32 THE REQUEST IS TO HAVE THAT ITEM
10/01/09 09:08:33 REMOVED TO 10:30, UNDER STAFF
10/01/09 09:08:36 REPORTS AND HAVE THAT PLACED AS
10/01/09 09:08:39 THE FIRST
10/01/09 09:08:42 ITEM OF BUSINESS
10/01/09 09:08:47 THAT
10/01/09 09:08:47 AT THAT TIME.
10/01/09 09:08:50 THEN ITEM 32, EXCUSE ME, I SAID
10/01/09 09:08:51 THAT ALREADY.
10/01/09 09:08:54 ITEM 78 IS UH, TO BE TAKEN
10/01/09 09:08:55 UP AT
10/01/09 09:08:57 EXCUSE ME AT 9:30 AND THAT IS TO
10/01/09 09:09:00 SUBSTITUTE THAT ORDINANCE AT
10/01/09 09:09:01 THAT TIME.
10/01/09 09:09:04 ITEM 83 IS ALSO TO BE TAKEN
10/01/09 09:09:06 UP
10/01/09 09:09:06 AT 9:30.
10/01/09 09:09:08 THAT'S A REQUEST FOR A
10/01/09 09:09:11 SUBSTITUTE ORDER INANCE
10/01/09 09:09:12 AT THAT
10/01/09 09:09:12 TIME.
10/01/09 09:09:14 THE NEXT ITEM, 86, IS A REQUEST
10/01/09 09:09:15 TO SUBSTITUTE THE ORDINANCE, THE
10/01/09 09:09:17 TIME OF TAKING UP THE CONTINUED
10/01/09 09:09:20 PUBLIC HEARING AT 10:00 AND I
10/01/09 09:09:22 BELIEVE THE LAST ITEM TO BE
10/01/09 09:09:25 DISCUSSED WOULD BE ITEM
10/01/09 09:09:27 89, AND
10/01/09 09:09:30 THAT IS TO UM, A CONTINUANCE
10/01/09 09:09:32 REQUEST BY THE CITY ATTORNEY TO
10/01/09 09:09:35 UH, MOVE THE ITEM ABOUT AN
10/01/09 09:09:36 ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE THE
10/01/09 09:09:39 HEARING OFFICE PROCESS FOR BIDS,
10/01/09 09:09:40 PURCHASE PROPOSALS AND
10/01/09 09:09:43 PROCUREMENT AND CONTINUE THAT
10/01/09 09:09:44 TO
10/01/09 09:09:44 OCTOBER 15TH.
10/01/09 09:09:46 UH, THE LAST ITEM COUNCIL, THAT
10/01/09 09:09:48 YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER IS UH,
10/01/09 09:09:51 THE LAST ITEM
10/01/09 09:09:53 ON THE AGENDA,
10/01/09 09:09:54 ITEM NUMBER 94, WHICH IS JUST A
10/01/09 09:09:57 VOTE ON THE FACADE ISSUE.
10/01/09 09:09:58 IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED THAT COUNCIL
10/01/09 09:10:00 MAY WANT TO CONSIDER MOVING THAT
10/01/09 09:10:02 UP EARLY ON, UNDER STAFF REPORTS
10/01/09 09:10:04 TO THE ITEM RIGHT AFTER THE
10/01/09 09:10:05 POLICE CHIEF APPOINTMENT, SO
10/01/09 09:10:07 THAT CAN BE HANDLED EARLY ON IN
10/01/09 09:10:09 THE AGENDA AND HAVE THAT ISSUE
10/01/09 09:10:12 RESOLVED, RATHER THAN TO THE
10/01/09 09:10:13 EARLY END.
10/01/09 09:10:16 OTHER THAN THAT, I'M NOT AWARE
10/01/09 09:10:17 OF ANYTHING ELSE AND PRESENT
10/01/09 09:10:20 THAT TO YOU
10/01/09 09:10:21 FOR APPROVAL AS
10/01/09 09:10:21 AMENDED.
10/01/09 09:10:23 >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY,
10/01/09 09:10:25 REGARDING THE LAST ITEM THAT WE
10/01/09 09:10:27 NEED A FULL COUNCIL VOTE FOR.
10/01/09 09:10:29 I THINK I
10/01/09 09:10:32 HAVE TO LEAVE AT 11:30 IF WE
10/01/09 09:10:33 COULD DO THAT EARLIER.
10/01/09 09:10:35 >> IS THERE ANYTHING THAT
10/01/09 09:10:37 PROHIBITS US FROM TAKING THAT UP
10/01/09 09:10:39 FIRST THING THIS MORNING?
10/01/09 09:10:40 >> NO, SIR.
10/01/09 09:10:42 IT'S SET FOR STAFF REPORTS, TIME
10/01/09 09:10:45 CERTAIN, BUT JUST FOR A VOTE AND
10/01/09 09:10:46 RESOLUTION.
10/01/09 09:10:47 >> OKAY, THANK YOU.
10/01/09 09:10:49 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10/01/09 09:10:52 ITEM TWO IS AN
10/01/09 09:10:54 ORDINANCE ABOUT
10/01/09 09:10:55 UH, THESE, ACTUALLY AN AMENDMENT
10/01/09 09:10:58 TO OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE
10/01/09 09:10:59 ABOUT
10/01/09 09:10:59 THESE NEWSRACKS.
10/01/09 09:11:02 I THINK MORE THAN A YEAR AGO, WE
10/01/09 09:11:05 BROUGHT UP THIS ISSUE TO UH, TO
10/01/09 09:11:06 STAFF UM, ABOUT THE NEWSRACKS
10/01/09 09:11:08 AND HOW THEY WERE KIND OF
10/01/09 09:11:10 CLUTTERING AROUND TOWN AND
10/01/09 09:11:11 APPARENTLY STAFF AND LEGALISTS
10/01/09 09:11:13 DRAFTED UP THIS AMENDMENT.
10/01/09 09:11:14 I HAVEN'T BEEN BRIEFED ON THIS
10/01/09 09:11:15 AT ALL.
10/01/09 09:11:18 I WAS READING THROUGH IT, UH,
10/01/09 09:11:19 BUT UH, ANYWAY, I DON'T, I THINK
10/01/09 09:11:22 IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S NO
10/01/09 09:11:23 URGENCY TO THIS, AND I DON'T
10/01/09 09:11:25 KNOW IF THE REST OF COUNCIL HAS
10/01/09 09:11:27 BEEN SPECIFICALLY BRIEFED ON
10/01/09 09:11:29 ITEM TWO, IF THERE'S NO URGENCY
10/01/09 09:11:31 TO IT, I'D LIKE TO DEFER IT TWO
10/01/09 09:11:33 WEEKS SO I CAN GET A CHANCE TO
10/01/09 09:11:35 GET BRIEFED ON IT.
10/01/09 09:11:38 >> CHIP, WHAT'S YOUR CITY
10/01/09 09:11:38 ATTORNEY?
10/01/09 09:11:40 MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS WAS
10/01/09 09:11:42 DONE LARGELY AS A REQUEST OF
10/01/09 09:11:43 COUNCIL SOME TIME AGO.
10/01/09 09:11:46 THERE IS
10/01/09 09:11:47 NO URGENCY, SO PUTTING
10/01/09 09:11:50 IT
10/01/09 09:11:52 OFF WOULD BE FINE.
10/01/09 09:11:58 >> TWO WEEKS WOULD BE MY
10/01/09 09:11:58 REQUEST.
10/01/09 09:12:01 LUMP IT INTO THE REST OF THEM.
10/01/09 09:12:03 >> OKAY, WE CAN TAKE THAT UP,
10/01/09 09:12:06 FIRST THING AFTER
10/01/09 09:12:09 THE UH, PUBLIC
10/01/09 09:12:09 COMMENT.
10/01/09 09:12:12 >> WHATEVER YOUR PREFERENCE.
10/01/09 09:12:15 >> MOVE THE AGENDA IF THERE ARE
10/01/09 09:12:19 NO OTHER CHANGES.
10/01/09 09:12:19 >> SECOND.
10/01/09 09:12:22 ALL IN
10/01/09 09:12:24 FAVOR SAY AYE.
10/01/09 09:12:24 >> AYE.
10/01/09 09:12:25 >> OKAY, PUBLIC COMMENT.
10/01/09 09:12:28 30 MINUTES HAS BEEN
10/01/09 09:12:29 SET ASIDE
10/01/09 09:12:32 FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO SPEAK TO
10/01/09 09:12:33 ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
10/01/09 09:12:36 IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO ITEMS ON
10/01/09 09:12:37 THE AGENDA, YOU HAVE FIRST
10/01/09 09:12:40 OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THIS
10/01/09 09:12:41 TIME.
10/01/09 09:12:43 AND THEN OTHER CAN SPEAK OF
10/01/09 09:12:46 ISSUES THEY WANT TO BRING
10/01/09 09:12:46 TO
10/01/09 09:12:46 COUNCIL.
10/01/09 09:12:48 STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR
10/01/09 09:12:49 THE RECORD, PLEASE.
10/01/09 09:12:52 >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME'S JUDY
10/01/09 09:12:52 FREY.
10/01/09 09:12:55 I LIVE AT 6322
10/01/09 09:12:58 SOUTH ADILA
10/01/09 09:13:02 ADILA AVENUE.
10/01/09 09:13:03 I'M HERE BECAUSE CODE
10/01/09 09:13:05 ENFORCEMENT ASKED ME TO BE.
10/01/09 09:13:07 I WASN'T SURE THAT THIS WAS
10/01/09 09:13:10 STILL GOING ON.
10/01/09 09:13:12 I THOUGHT THAT UM, MAY 6TH OF
10/01/09 09:13:15 LAST YEAR, WE PUT OUR VOTE IN
10/01/09 09:13:16 STORAGE WHEN CODE ENFORCEMENT
10/01/09 09:13:19 TOLD US IT WAS TOO LARGE TO FIT
10/01/09 09:13:22 IN OUR DRIVEWAY, WE HAD TO
10/01/09 09:13:23 FOLLOW CODE.
10/01/09 09:13:24 AT THAT POINT.
10/01/09 09:13:27 MAY 6TH OF LAST YEAR, WE PUT THE
10/01/09 09:13:28 BOAT IN STORAGE.
10/01/09 09:13:30 THE ONLY TIME THE BOAT IS AT OUR
10/01/09 09:13:32 HOUSE IS FOR THE WEEKEND WHEN WE
10/01/09 09:13:33 TAKE IT OUT.
10/01/09 09:13:35 IT'S NEVER THERE THE WHOLE
10/01/09 09:13:35 WEEKEND.
10/01/09 09:13:38 WE FOLLOW THE 24 HOUR
10/01/09 09:13:39 GUIDELINE
10/01/09 09:13:41 AND WE JUST DON'T KNOW AT THIS
10/01/09 09:13:43 POINT, I'M SORRY FOR THIS TO
10/01/09 09:13:46 HAPPEN TO COME
10/01/09 09:13:47 THIS FAR.
10/01/09 09:13:50 WE UM,
10/01/09 09:13:52 HAVE KNOWN MR. MAROWSKI
10/01/09 09:13:53 FOR 25 YEARS.
10/01/09 09:13:55 HE'S ALWAYS BEEN PART OF OUR
10/01/09 09:13:56 FAMILY GATHERINGS AND
10/01/09 09:13:57 EVERYTHING, WE JUST DON'T
10/01/09 09:13:59 UNDERSTAND WHY, AT THIS POINT,
10/01/09 09:14:02 IT'S SUCH AN ISSUE.
10/01/09 09:14:04 AND, IT ACTUALLY STARTED RIGHT
10/01/09 09:14:05 AFTER I BROUGHT HIM HOME FROM
10/01/09 09:14:06 THE HOSPITAL.
10/01/09 09:14:07 HE WAS IN THE HOSPITAL AND HE
10/01/09 09:14:09 DIDN'T HAVE A RIDE HOME.
10/01/09 09:14:12 I LEFT WORK, BROUGHT HIM HOME
10/01/09 09:14:13 AND DOING NEIGHBORLY THINGS, YOU
10/01/09 09:14:13 KNOW?
10/01/09 09:14:15 WE DO THINGS TO HELP EACH OTHER
10/01/09 09:14:17 OUT, BUT FOR SOME REASON, I
10/01/09 09:14:18 DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
10/01/09 09:14:20 AT THAT POINT YOU KNOW, HE
10/01/09 09:14:22 STARTED CALLING CODE ENFORCEMENT
10/01/09 09:14:24 ABOUT THE BOAT AND ALL OUR
10/01/09 09:14:26 NEIGHBORS HAVE ENJOYED THE BOAT.
10/01/09 09:14:28 WE'VE TAKEN OUR FRIENDS AND
10/01/09 09:14:29 NEIGHBORS OUT AND IT'S SOMETHING
10/01/09 09:14:31 THAT WE ALL ENJOY AND WE REALLY
10/01/09 09:14:34 FELT THAT YOU KNOW, HE COULD
10/01/09 09:14:35 ENJOY IT ALSO.
10/01/09 09:14:35 BUT...
10/01/09 09:14:36 YOU KNOW...
10/01/09 09:14:37 FOR SOME
10/01/09 09:14:38 REASON YOU KNOW, HE DOESN'T CARE
10/01/09 09:14:39 TO HAVE IT THERE.
10/01/09 09:14:42 AND EVEN THOUGH WE'RE FOLLOWING
10/01/09 09:14:43 THE GUIDELINES THAT CODE
10/01/09 09:14:44 ENFORCEMENT HAS PUT IN PLACE.
10/01/09 09:14:46 SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW
10/01/09 09:14:49 THAT AS OF MAY 6TH OF LAST YEAR,
10/01/09 09:14:52 WE'VE BEEN IN COMPLIANCE
10/01/09 09:14:52 WITH
10/01/09 09:14:53 THE CODE.
10/01/09 09:14:53 THANK YOU.
10/01/09 09:14:55 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10/01/09 09:14:55 NEXT SPEAKER.
10/01/09 09:14:57 ANYONE ELSE THAT'S GOING TO BE
10/01/09 09:15:00 SPEAKING MAY LINE UP AND COME,
10/01/09 09:15:00 PLEASE.
10/01/09 09:15:03 >> MY
10/01/09 09:15:06 NAME'S
10/01/09 09:15:07 CHARLES MAROWSKI.
10/01/09 09:15:08 6320 ADELIA AVENUE.
10/01/09 09:15:09 AS SHE SAID, WE'VE BEEN FRIENDS
10/01/09 09:15:11 FOR A LONG TIME, BUT THE THING
10/01/09 09:15:14 IS, WHEN THE
10/01/09 09:15:17 PONTOON ARRIVED,
10/01/09 09:15:17 EVERYTHING CHANGED.
10/01/09 09:15:23 WHEN THE PONTOON CAME
10/01/09 09:15:26 IN,
10/01/09 09:15:27 EVERYTHING CHANGED COMPLETELY.
10/01/09 09:15:29 NOW, MR. FREY, WHEN HE HAS
10/01/09 09:15:30 SOMETHING ON HIS PROPERTY, HE
10/01/09 09:15:33 HAS IT THERE
10/01/09 09:15:34 FOR A LONG TIME.
10/01/09 09:15:37 I HAD NO INTENTIONS OF
10/01/09 09:15:40 LOOKING
10/01/09 09:15:43 AT THAT UPON
10/01/09 09:15:45 PONTOON FOR THE
10/01/09 09:15:45 NEXT 15
10/01/09 09:15:46 YEARS.
10/01/09 09:15:48 IT'S BEEN THERE ON WEEKENDS,
10/01/09 09:15:48 YES, CONSISTENTLY.
10/01/09 09:15:51 IT'S BEEN THERE FROM FRIDAY,
10/01/09 09:15:54 SATURDAY, SUNDAY AND MONDAY.
10/01/09 09:15:57 AND
10/01/09 09:16:00 IT'S, IT'S ALSO OBSTRUCTING
10/01/09 09:16:02 TRAFFIC WHEN I'M COMING OUT OF
10/01/09 09:16:02 THE DRIVEWAY.
10/01/09 09:16:05 CARS ARE PARKED ALL OVER THE
10/01/09 09:16:05 PLACE.
10/01/09 09:16:06 THE PONTOON ISN'T IN THE
10/01/09 09:16:08 DRIVEWAY, IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE
10/01/09 09:16:08 FENCE.
10/01/09 09:16:11 NOW THIS HAS BECOME AN ISSUE ALL
10/01/09 09:16:14 THE TIME AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S
10/01/09 09:16:17 BEING DONE PURPOSELY.
10/01/09 09:16:20 NOW MR. FREY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT
10/01/09 09:16:22 HIS PROBLEM IS, BUT, HE PUTS IT
10/01/09 09:16:25 THERE AND HE JUST LEAVES
10/01/09 09:16:27 IT
10/01/09 09:16:27 THERE.
10/01/09 09:16:30 NOW, TO UH, PREPARE THE PONTOON
10/01/09 09:16:32 TO TAKE OUT, HE PARKS IT THERE,
10/01/09 09:16:35 GOES ON, HE MESSES AROUND ON
10/01/09 09:16:37 TOP, AND HE LEAVES IT THERE FOR
10/01/09 09:16:39 A DAY OR TWO AND THEN HE TAKES
10/01/09 09:16:40 IT OUT, BRINGS IT BACK AND
10/01/09 09:16:43 LEAVES IT THERE FOR ANOTHER DAY,
10/01/09 09:16:46 AND MAYBE ON A MONDAY OR TUESDAY
10/01/09 09:16:49 HE'LL TAKE IT BACK, PUT
10/01/09 09:16:51 IT INTO
10/01/09 09:16:51 STORAGE.
10/01/09 09:16:52 NOW...
10/01/09 09:16:53 I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY
10/01/09 09:16:55 THEY LEAVE IT OVER THERE ALL THE
10/01/09 09:16:55 TIME.
10/01/09 09:16:57 WHY CAN'T HE BRING IT BACK,
10/01/09 09:16:59 CLEAN IT UP, AND TAKE IT BACK
10/01/09 09:17:00 INTO STORAGE?
10/01/09 09:17:03 INSTEAD OF LEAVING
10/01/09 09:17:06 IT
10/01/09 09:17:08 THERE ALL
10/01/09 09:17:08 WEEKEND?
10/01/09 09:17:10 I HOPE THIS PROBLEM COULD BE
10/01/09 09:17:13 SOLVED, BECAUSE LIKE MRS. FREY
10/01/09 09:17:15 SAID, I UH, WE'VE GROWN UP
10/01/09 09:17:18 TOGETHER, BUT IT HAS BECAME AN
10/01/09 09:17:19 ISSUE.
10/01/09 09:17:20 I HOPE THAT UH, THIS COMMISSION
10/01/09 09:17:23 OVER HERE COULD UH,
10/01/09 09:17:26 SOLVE THE
10/01/09 09:17:26 PROBLEM.
10/01/09 09:17:26 THANK YOU.
10/01/09 09:17:27 >> THANK YOU.
10/01/09 09:17:29 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, I
10/01/09 09:17:32 UH, I'M SAD TO SEE THAT TWO
10/01/09 09:17:34 NEIGHBORS ARE NOT GETTING ALONG
10/01/09 09:17:35 LIKE THEY USED TO.
10/01/09 09:17:38 THAT'S A REAL SAD THING AS FAR
10/01/09 09:17:39 AS I'M CONCERNED.
10/01/09 09:17:42 UM, WE'VE HEARD ONE STORY, WE
10/01/09 09:17:43 ALL AGREE, THEY'RE RIGHT.
10/01/09 09:17:46 WE HEARD THE OTHER STORY, MAYBE
10/01/09 09:17:46 THEY'RE RIGHT.
10/01/09 09:17:47 SO...
10/01/09 09:17:49 I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SOLVE
10/01/09 09:17:51 THIS PROBLEM, UH, MEMBERS, OTHER
10/01/09 09:17:53 THAN TO SEE IF UH, CODE
10/01/09 09:17:55 ENFORCEMENT, ON A WEEKLY BASIS,
10/01/09 09:17:58 CAN DRIVE BY ON A WEEKEND TO
10/01/09 09:18:01 MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ADHERING
10/01/09 09:18:03 TO ALL THE FACTS PRESENTED TO
10/01/09 09:18:04 THIS COUNCIL TODAY.
10/01/09 09:18:07 SOMEBODY HERE IS SEEING A MIRAGE
10/01/09 09:18:10 OR NOT SEEING A MIRAGE AND THE
10/01/09 09:18:11 FACTS ARE TRUE.
10/01/09 09:18:14 IT'S VERY UH,
10/01/09 09:18:15 IT'S VERY
10/01/09 09:18:17 HEART-PAIN TO ME ANYWAY, TO SEE
10/01/09 09:18:18 TWO NEIGHBORS THAT USED TO BE
10/01/09 09:18:22 FRIENDS AND SHARE AND GO TO
10/01/09 09:18:22 NEIGHBORHOOD GATHERINGS TOGETHER
10/01/09 09:18:25 AS FAMILY HAVE A DISPUTE
10/01/09 09:18:28 OVER A
10/01/09 09:18:28 PONTOON BOAT.
10/01/09 09:18:30 UH, THERE'S NO WILD PARTIES THAT
10/01/09 09:18:32 I'VE HEARD OF, THERE'S NO NOISE,
10/01/09 09:18:34 THERE'S NOTHING OF THAT NATURE.
10/01/09 09:18:36 SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, MAYBE WE
10/01/09 09:18:38 CAN ASK CODE ENFORCEMENT TO
10/01/09 09:18:40 FINALLY GIVE US A REPORT TO FIND
10/01/09 09:18:43 OUT WHAT THE FACTS ARE SO WE CAN
10/01/09 09:18:43 STRAIGHTEN IT OUT.
10/01/09 09:18:44 >> ITEM 90 TODAY.
10/01/09 09:18:47 >> THANK YOU
10/01/09 09:18:48 VERY MUCH.
10/01/09 09:18:50 >> THANK YOU.
10/01/09 09:18:50 >> NEXT SPEAKER?
10/01/09 09:18:53 >> I HAVE
10/01/09 09:18:55 A NON-AGENDA ITEM.
10/01/09 09:18:58 DO YOU GENTLEMAN HAVE AN AGENDA
10/01/09 09:18:59 ITEM?
10/01/09 09:19:00 >> JUST GO AHEAD.
10/01/09 09:19:03 >> MY
10/01/09 09:19:06 NAME IS PHILLIP DENKINS.
10/01/09 09:19:09 I'M HERE WITH THE TAMPA HUMAN
10/01/09 09:19:10 RIGHTS BOARD.
10/01/09 09:19:11 I'M HERE TO DISCUSS A PROPOSED
10/01/09 09:19:14 AMENDMENT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA
10/01/09 09:19:16 HUMAN RIGHTS ORDINANCE TO ADD
10/01/09 09:19:17 GENDER IDENTITY AND EXPRESSION
10/01/09 09:19:18 TO THE ORDINANCE.
10/01/09 09:19:19 I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD.
10/01/09 09:19:22 I'D LIKE TO READ A LETTER SIGNED
10/01/09 09:19:25 BY ME
10/01/09 09:19:28 TO UM, CHAIRMAN
10/01/09 09:19:30 SCOTT,
10/01/09 09:19:32 DATED SEPTEMBER 23RD.
10/01/09 09:19:33 DEAR CHAIRMAN SCOTT, ON BEHALF
10/01/09 09:19:35 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA HUMAN
10/01/09 09:19:37 RIGHTS BOARD, WE REQUEST TAMPA
10/01/09 09:19:39 CITY COUNCIL TAKE ACTION TO
10/01/09 09:19:41 AMEND THE HUMAN RIGHTS ORDINANCE
10/01/09 09:19:44 TO PREVENT
10/01/09 09:19:47 DISCRIMINATION
10/01/09 09:19:48 AGAINST TRANSGENDER INDIVIDUALS.
10/01/09 09:19:49 FIRST CAME TO THE ATTENTION OF
10/01/09 09:19:51 THE HUMAN RIGHTS BOARD OVER A
10/01/09 09:19:52 YEAR AGO.
10/01/09 09:19:54 THE BOARD BEGAN EXPLORING
10/01/09 09:19:56 WHETHER THE CITY OF TAMPA COULD
10/01/09 09:19:58 ACT TO OFFER ATTENTION TO THIS
10/01/09 09:19:58 GROUP.
10/01/09 09:20:00 LAST YEAR, THE HUMAN RIGHTS
10/01/09 09:20:02 BOARD LEARNED MORE ABOUT THE
10/01/09 09:20:04 PARTICULAR CONCERNS OF THE
10/01/09 09:20:06 TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY IN TAMPA.
10/01/09 09:20:08 THROUGH THIS WORKSHOP AND AT
10/01/09 09:20:10 VARIOUS BOARD MEETINGS
10/01/09 09:20:11 THROUGHOUT THE ENSUING YEAR,
10/01/09 09:20:13 CITIZENS FROM THE COMMUNITY
10/01/09 09:20:14 SHARED EXPERIENCES WITH THE
10/01/09 09:20:16 BOARD DEMONSTRATING A NEED
10/01/09 09:20:19 EXISTS IN OUR CITY FOR LEGAL
10/01/09 09:20:21 PRESENTATION FROM THESE
10/01/09 09:20:21 INDIVIDUALS THROUGH
10/01/09 09:20:22 DISCRIMINATION.
10/01/09 09:20:23 THROUGH ADDITIONAL RESEARCH, WE
10/01/09 09:20:25 DETERMINED OVER NINE CITIES AND
10/01/09 09:20:26 COUNTIES IN FLORIDA INCLUDE
10/01/09 09:20:29 LANGUAGE IN THEIR HUMAN RIGHTS
10/01/09 09:20:30 ORDINANCES THAT PROTECT
10/01/09 09:20:31 TRANSGENDER INDIVIDUALS.
10/01/09 09:20:33 FURTHERMORE, 35% OF THE FORTUNE
10/01/09 09:20:36 500 COMPANIES ALSO INCLUDE,
10/01/09 09:20:39 AMONG THEIR COMPANY POLICIES,
10/01/09 09:20:42 PROTECTION
10/01/09 09:20:44 FOR TRANSGENDER
10/01/09 09:20:44 INDIVIDUALS.
10/01/09 09:20:45 DISCRIMINATION IN ALL ITS FORMS
10/01/09 09:20:47 WILL HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON
10/01/09 09:20:50 OUR
10/01/09 09:20:52 DID I'S ECONOMIC
10/01/09 09:20:52 DEVELOPMENT.
10/01/09 09:20:58 THE MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN
10/01/09 09:20:59 RIGHTS
10/01/09 09:21:00 BOARD OF TAMPA BELIEVE IT SHOULD
10/01/09 09:21:02 CONTINUE A STRONG RECORD ON
10/01/09 09:21:05 HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUES BY UT
10/01/09 09:21:07 UPDATING
10/01/09 09:21:10 ITS CODE
10/01/09 09:21:16 TO
10/01/09 09:21:19 PROTECT TRANSGENDER
10/01/09 09:21:19 INDIVIDUALS.
10/01/09 09:21:21 ADD GENDER IDENTITY AND
10/01/09 09:21:22 EXPRESSION AS A PROTECTED CLASS
10/01/09 09:21:25 UNDER THE CITY CODE.
10/01/09 09:21:25 WE APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S
10/01/09 09:21:27 CONTINUED EFFORTS TO PROTECT OUR
10/01/09 09:21:28 CITIZENS FROM DISCRIMINATION AND
10/01/09 09:21:31 ENSURE THAT TAMPA REMAINS A
10/01/09 09:21:32 PROGRESSIVE AND DYNAMIC CITY IN
10/01/09 09:21:34 THE FUTURE YEARS.
10/01/09 09:21:36 AS A FOLLOWING COMMENT, I'D LIKE
10/01/09 09:21:38 TO MENTION THAT AFTER THE LETTER
10/01/09 09:21:41 WAS DRAFTED, FURTHER RESEARCH
10/01/09 09:21:42 SHOWS THERE ARE 16
10/01/09 09:21:44 MUNICIPALITIES IN FLORIDA THAT
10/01/09 09:21:45 CURRENTLY HAVE THIS GENDER
10/01/09 09:21:48 IDENTITY IN EXPRESSION IN THEIR
10/01/09 09:21:48 PROTECTED CLASSES.
10/01/09 09:21:50 THESE INCLUDE BROWARD AND PALM
10/01/09 09:21:53 BEACH COUNTIES, GAINESVILLE AND
10/01/09 09:21:54 ALSO ORLANDO.
10/01/09 09:21:57 UM, ALSO 13 STATES, PLUS
10/01/09 09:22:00 WASHINGTON, D.C. AND THAT NUMBER
10/01/09 09:22:00 IS GROWING.
10/01/09 09:22:03 AND ALSO, OF THE 100 LARGEST
10/01/09 09:22:05 FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES, 60% OF
10/01/09 09:22:06 THEM INCLUDE UH, GENDER IDENTITY
10/01/09 09:22:08 AND EXPRESSION IN THEIR POLICIES
10/01/09 09:22:11 AND THAT NUMBER IS ALSO
10/01/09 09:22:11 GROWING
10/01/09 09:22:13 EVERY WEEK.
10/01/09 09:22:15 UM, ALSO, THE HILLSBOROUGH
10/01/09 09:22:16 COUNTY BAR ASSOCIATION.
10/01/09 09:22:19 SOME OF OUR LOCAL
10/01/09 09:22:21 BUSINESSES,
10/01/09 09:22:24 CARLTON FIELDS,
10/01/09 09:22:26 RAYMOND JAMES,
10/01/09 09:22:26 ERNST AND YOUNG.
10/01/09 09:22:29 >> THANK YOU
10/01/09 09:22:30 VERY MUCH.
10/01/09 09:22:31 COUNCIL, YOU DID GET A COPY OF
10/01/09 09:22:33 THE LETTER, AS WELL AS I DID.
10/01/09 09:22:35 MY SUGGESTION IS, IT'S UP TO YOU
10/01/09 09:22:37 ALL, REFER TO LEGAL AND TO THE
10/01/09 09:22:40 ADMINISTRATION TO BRING BACK A
10/01/09 09:22:41 RECOMMENDATION OR ORDINANCE.
10/01/09 09:22:42 >> DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT.
10/01/09 09:22:45 >> I DON'T--
10/01/09 09:22:45 >> YES--
10/01/09 09:22:46 >> IF YOU'D LIKE TO.
10/01/09 09:22:48 >> I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT
10/01/09 09:22:51 WE REFER TO OUR CITY COUNCIL
10/01/09 09:22:52 ATTORNEYS TO LOOK AT IT.
10/01/09 09:22:53 >> LET'S TAKE IT FIRST THING
10/01/09 09:22:56 AFTER --I THINK OUR POLICY, OUR
10/01/09 09:22:59 RULE IS NOT TO TAKE AN
10/01/09 09:22:59 ACTION
10/01/09 09:23:00 DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
10/01/09 09:23:02 WE'LL TAKE THAT UP IN ANOTHER
10/01/09 09:23:02 ISSUE.
10/01/09 09:23:02 .
10/01/09 09:23:04 >> CHAIRMAN, I GOT THE SAME
10/01/09 09:23:06 LETTER, ALL OF US DID, I READ IT
10/01/09 09:23:06 VERY CAREFULLY.
10/01/09 09:23:08 THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON
10/01/09 09:23:11 MY MIND, HOW DID THIS
10/01/09 09:23:11 START?
10/01/09 09:23:14 DID WE DISCRIMINATE
10/01/09 09:23:16 AGAINST
10/01/09 09:23:16 ANYONE?
10/01/09 09:23:19 WHAT STARTED THIS?
10/01/09 09:23:21 HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?
10/01/09 09:23:21 >> UM....
10/01/09 09:23:23 >> DID SOMEBODY APPROACH THE
10/01/09 09:23:26 BOARD SAID "I'VE BEEN
10/01/09 09:23:28 DISCRIMINATED AGAINST BECAUSE
10/01/09 09:23:28 I'M A TRANSSEXUAL?"
10/01/09 09:23:31 >> ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS,
10/01/09 09:23:33 SARA NEWTON BROUGHT THIS UP AT A
10/01/09 09:23:34 MEETING A LITTLE OVER A YEAR
10/01/09 09:23:35 AGO.
10/01/09 09:23:36 SHE HAD BEEN AWARE OF THIS
10/01/09 09:23:39 PROBLEM TO UH, OUR KNOWLEDGE UH,
10/01/09 09:23:42 THE UH, CITY, DIVISION OF HUMAN
10/01/09 09:23:43 AFFAIRS THAT COVERS
10/01/09 09:23:45 DISCRIMINATION ISSUES AND CLAIMS
10/01/09 09:23:46 HASN'T BEEN APPROACHED BECAUSE
10/01/09 09:23:48 THIS WAS NOT A COVERED PROTECTED
10/01/09 09:23:48 CLASS.
10/01/09 09:23:51 SO, SO NO ONE HAD COME FORWARD.
10/01/09 09:23:54 BUT UH, RESEARCH THAT WE'VE
10/01/09 09:23:56 GOTTEN FROM UH, VARIOUS GROUPS
10/01/09 09:23:59 SHOW THAT GENDER IDENTITY IS A
10/01/09 09:24:01 PARTICULARLY TROUBLING UH,
10/01/09 09:24:01 ISSUE.
10/01/09 09:24:02 FOR THOSE AFFECTED BY.
10/01/09 09:24:03 IT UM...
10/01/09 09:24:04 TYPICALLY IT'S DIFFICULT FOR
10/01/09 09:24:06 THEM TO HIDE THIS.
10/01/09 09:24:08 UH, IN A GAY OR LESBIAN UH,
10/01/09 09:24:09 PERSON, THEY CAN HIDE THEIR
10/01/09 09:24:12 IDENTITY IF THEY NEED TO AT JOBS
10/01/09 09:24:15 OR, OR IN EMPLOYMENT, BUT EVEN
10/01/09 09:24:16 THOUGH THEY'RE PROTECTED, BUT
10/01/09 09:24:18 THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY IS
10/01/09 09:24:18 NOT.
10/01/09 09:24:21 AND UH, WE ALL RECALL THE CASE
10/01/09 09:24:24 OF UH, STEVE SICKSTANTON IN
10/01/09 09:24:27 LARGO A YEAR OR TWO AGO WHO WENT
10/01/09 09:24:29 THROUGH SEXUAL REASSIGNMENT
10/01/09 09:24:32 SURGERY AND
10/01/09 09:24:35 LOST HIS
10/01/09 09:24:35 JOB OVER
10/01/09 09:24:36 THAT.
10/01/09 09:24:38 HE'S NOW EMPLOYED ON THE EAST
10/01/09 09:24:39 COAST IN A SIMILAR JOB.
10/01/09 09:24:41 WHILE NOT HAPPENING IN OUR
10/01/09 09:24:42 COMMUNITY, IT HAPPENED ACROSS
10/01/09 09:24:44 THE BAY AND WAS A VISIBLE
10/01/09 09:24:44 SITUATION.
10/01/09 09:24:47 SHE WAS IN A POSITION TO
10/01/09 09:24:49 UH, TO
10/01/09 09:24:52 UH, HIRE ATTORNEYS AND WORK
10/01/09 09:24:52 THROUGH THIS.
10/01/09 09:24:53 BUT SO MANY INDIVIDUALS DON'T
10/01/09 09:24:55 HAVE THE ABILITY TO HIRE
10/01/09 09:24:56 ATTORNEYS AND WORK THROUGH THIS.
10/01/09 09:24:57 WE NEED TO PROTECT THEM,
10/01/09 09:24:59 PARTICULARLY IN SCHOOLS AS WELL.
10/01/09 09:25:01 >> OKAY, ALL RIGHT THANK YOU.
10/01/09 09:25:04 THANK
10/01/09 09:25:05 YOU VERY MUCH.
10/01/09 09:25:07 NEXT SPEAKER?
10/01/09 09:25:08 >> GOOD MORNING.
10/01/09 09:25:10 MY NAME'S JAMES.
10/01/09 09:25:13 I'M A LAWYER FOR THE TAMPA
10/01/09 09:25:13 TRIBUNE.
10/01/09 09:25:15 I PLANNED TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL
10/01/09 09:25:18 THIS MORNING TO TALK ABOUT
10/01/09 09:25:18 ITEM
10/01/09 09:25:18 TWO.
10/01/09 09:25:20 I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR
10/01/09 09:25:23 AGREEING TO PUT THAT OFF FOR A
10/01/09 09:25:23 COUPLE WEEKS.
10/01/09 09:25:25 WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT ISSUES,
10/01/09 09:25:26 MAYBE UNINTENDED ISSUES WITH THE
10/01/09 09:25:29 LANGUAGE THAT WAS
10/01/09 09:25:31 TO COME BEFORE
10/01/09 09:25:32 YOUR HONOR TODAY.
10/01/09 09:25:33 WE'D LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
10/01/09 09:25:34 TALK TO HER MORE.
10/01/09 09:25:36 I'M GLAD WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO
10/01/09 09:25:37 THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS.
10/01/09 09:25:38 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10/01/09 09:25:40 >> I WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE
10/01/09 09:25:41 TIMES FOR WORKING WITH THE PRIOR
10/01/09 09:25:43 ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE SOME
10/01/09 09:25:45 DRASTIC CHANGES AND USE RANKS
10/01/09 09:25:46 THAT REALLY IMPROVE THE QUALITY
10/01/09 09:25:48 THROUGHOUT THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
10/01/09 09:25:51 >>
10/01/09 09:25:52 THANK YOU.
10/01/09 09:25:53 >> NEXT SPEAKER?
10/01/09 09:25:55 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10/01/09 09:25:58 I'M
10/01/09 09:25:59 PHIL CONTON.
10/01/09 09:26:00 I'M A REGIONAL REPRESENTATIVE
10/01/09 09:26:02 WITH THE SIERRA CLUB, FLORIDA
10/01/09 09:26:03 REGIONAL OFFICE IN ST.
10/01/09 09:26:03 PETERSBURG.
10/01/09 09:26:05 I WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO SHARE
10/01/09 09:26:07 WITH YOU WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED
10/01/09 09:26:10 ALL OVER THE FLORIDA WEST
10/01/09 09:26:13 COAST
10/01/09 09:26:13 THESE DAYS.
10/01/09 09:26:15 TUESDAY, COUNCIL, LOCAL
10/01/09 09:26:17 GOVERNMENTS MET IN VENICE AND
10/01/09 09:26:18 SENT A STRONG MESSAGE TO STATE
10/01/09 09:26:21 LEGISLATURE ABOUT THE PUSH FOR
10/01/09 09:26:23 DRILLING FOR OIL OFF OUR FLORIDA
10/01/09 09:26:23 BEACHES.
10/01/09 09:26:26 OUR COAST IS OUR MAIN SOURCE OF
10/01/09 09:26:27 JOBS, TAX REVENUE, SUPPORTS OUR
10/01/09 09:26:30 STATES AND THIS
10/01/09 09:26:33 COMMUNITY.
10/01/09 09:26:34 $572 BILLION IN REVENUE COMES
10/01/09 09:26:35 FROM OUR COAST.
10/01/09 09:26:38 ALMOST A MILLION JOBS IN COASTAL
10/01/09 09:26:38 TOURISM.
10/01/09 09:26:40 YOU MAY THINK, WHAT DOES THAT
10/01/09 09:26:43 HAVE TO DO WITH TAMPA?
10/01/09 09:26:44 ACTUALLY OUR STATE DEPENDS ON
10/01/09 09:26:46 THOSE TOURISM JOBS TO SUPPORT
10/01/09 09:26:46 OUR STATES.
10/01/09 09:26:49 WE ARE THREATENED BY
10/01/09 09:26:51 AN
10/01/09 09:26:52 UNPRECEDENTED BLITZKRIEG OF
10/01/09 09:26:53 LOBBYISTS TELLING US IT IS
10/01/09 09:26:55 PERFECTLY SAFE TO DRILL FOR OIL
10/01/09 09:26:57 OFF OUR COAST.
10/01/09 09:26:59 THIS IS SOMETHING OPPOSED BY
10/01/09 09:27:02 EVERYONE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT
10/01/09 09:27:05 FOR MANY
10/01/09 09:27:07 YEARS.
10/01/09 09:27:10 THEY'RE FUNDED BY A MYSTERIOUS
10/01/09 09:27:12 GROUP OF INTERESTS.
10/01/09 09:27:14 RESOLUTIONS ARE BEING PASSED.
10/01/09 09:27:16 BAY COUNTY, COLLYER COUNTY.
10/01/09 09:27:19 LEE COUNTY, INDIAN SHORES,
10/01/09 09:27:21 REDDINGTON SHORES, INDIAN ROCKS
10/01/09 09:27:23 BEACH AND CLEARWATER HAVE PASSED
10/01/09 09:27:25 RESOLUTIONS, JUST TO NAME A FEW,
10/01/09 09:27:26 ABOUT THIS.
10/01/09 09:27:28 OUR COASTAL LEADERS ARE SPEAKING
10/01/09 09:27:28 UP.
10/01/09 09:27:31 WE'D URGE YOU TO CONSIDER DOING
10/01/09 09:27:31 SOMETHING.
10/01/09 09:27:33 IF YOU'RE NOT RIGHT ON THE
10/01/09 09:27:35 COAST, THEY MIGHT THINK TAMPA'S
10/01/09 09:27:35 OKAY WITH THIS.
10/01/09 09:27:37 TAMPA NEEDS TO SPEAK OUT.
10/01/09 09:27:39 YOUR VOICE WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO
10/01/09 09:27:39 BE HEARD.
10/01/09 09:27:42 IF I COULD HAVE ASSISTANCE, I
10/01/09 09:27:45 HAVE ONE SHOT I WANT TO
10/01/09 09:27:49 SHOW
10/01/09 09:27:51 COUNCIL REAL QUICKLY.
10/01/09 09:27:51 >> 180 IT.
10/01/09 09:27:53 >> 180, THANK YOU.
10/01/09 09:27:54 THE AUSTRALIANS BELIEVED THAT
10/01/09 09:27:57 OIL DRILLING WOULD BE SAFE,
10/01/09 09:27:58 THAT
10/01/09 09:27:59 THE NEW TECHNOLOGIMENT THAT YOU
10/01/09 09:28:02 COULD NOT HAVE A
10/01/09 09:28:02 STILL.
10/01/09 09:28:03 THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BEING TOLD
10/01/09 09:28:04 TODAY.
10/01/09 09:28:06 THERE'S A SPILL THAT STARTED OFF
10/01/09 09:28:06 THE COAST OF AUSTRALIA.
10/01/09 09:28:09 IT WON'T BE CAPPED FOR A COUPLE
10/01/09 09:28:09 OF WEEKS.
10/01/09 09:28:12 THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE
10/01/09 09:28:13 SEPTEMBER 3RD IF YOU TOOK THE
10/01/09 09:28:16 SAME SPILL FROM
10/01/09 09:28:18 NASA SUNLIGHT
10/01/09 09:28:19 TECHNOLOGY AND SUPERIMPOSED IT
10/01/09 09:28:20 ONTO OUR COAST.
10/01/09 09:28:22 IT'D GO INTO TAMPA BAY, AROUND
10/01/09 09:28:24 THE KEYS AND INTO DAYTONA BEACH.
10/01/09 09:28:26 OUR FLORIDA BEACHES WOULD NEVER
10/01/09 09:28:26 BE THE SAME.
10/01/09 09:28:27 WE'D LOSE SO MUCH HERE AND WE
10/01/09 09:28:30 URGE YOU TO TAKE A STAND ON THIS
10/01/09 09:28:30 BECAUSE IT'S NOT NECESSARY.
10/01/09 09:28:33 IN FACT, IN CONGRESS YESTERDAY,
10/01/09 09:28:36 WE ARE MOVING IN THE NEW
10/01/09 09:28:36 DIRECTION.
10/01/09 09:28:39 SENATE INTRODUCED A
10/01/09 09:28:39 BILL.
10/01/09 09:28:42 JOHN KERRY AND BARBARA BOXER TO
10/01/09 09:28:44 CLEAN ENERGY JOBS AND AMERICAN
10/01/09 09:28:47 POWER ACT, COMBINED WITH A HOUSE
10/01/09 09:28:50 BILL
10/01/09 09:28:53 THAT KATHY CASTOR SUPPORT
10/01/09 09:28:55 SUPPORTED.
10/01/09 09:28:57 I URGE YOU TO JOIN THE COURSE OF
10/01/09 09:28:59 FLORIDA LEADERS TO SPEAK OUT AND
10/01/09 09:29:01 SAY NO TO OFFSHORE DRILLING, BUT
10/01/09 09:29:02 YES TO CLEAN ENERGY.
10/01/09 09:29:03 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10/01/09 09:29:03 >> THANK YOU.
10/01/09 09:29:05 >> DO YOU HAVE A PROPOSED
10/01/09 09:29:06 RESOLUTION FOR US?
10/01/09 09:29:08 >> I DO NOT HAVE A PROPOSED
10/01/09 09:29:11 RESOLUTION TODAY, BUT WE CAN
10/01/09 09:29:14 PROVIDE THAT FOR YOU.
10/01/09 09:29:14 >> OKAY.
10/01/09 09:29:17 ANYONE ELSE
10/01/09 09:29:18 WISH TO ADDRESS
10/01/09 09:29:19 COUNCIL?
10/01/09 09:29:22 WHY DON'T WE TAKE UP
10/01/09 09:29:24 THE MOTION
10/01/09 09:29:25 BY COUNCIL MULHERN.
10/01/09 09:29:27 >> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION
10/01/09 09:29:29 THAT THE ADMINISTRATION LOOKING
10/01/09 09:29:31 TO THE ORDINANCE OF TRANSGENDER,
10/01/09 09:29:33 BRING IT BACK TO US AND LET US
10/01/09 09:29:36 KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO
10/01/09 09:29:38 DO TO--
10/01/09 09:29:39 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10/01/09 09:29:42 I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO
10/01/09 09:29:43 MEET
10/01/09 09:29:46 WITH MR. JENKINS AND ACTUALLY
10/01/09 09:29:48 THE UM, HUMAN RIGHTS BOARD HAS
10/01/09 09:29:49 BEEN MEETING WITH THE
10/01/09 09:29:51 ADMINISTRATION AND THEY HAVE THE
10/01/09 09:29:52 LANGUAGE READY TO GO.
10/01/09 09:29:55 SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK UH, THAT
10/01/09 09:29:57 THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT BRING THAT
10/01/09 09:29:59 LANGUAGE TO COUNCIL AND PUT IT
10/01/09 09:30:01 ON OUR AGENDA IN 30 DAYS.
10/01/09 09:30:04 >> IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST
10/01/09 09:30:06 TO BE CLEAR, UM...
10/01/09 09:30:08 CHIP
10/01/09 09:30:08 FLETCHER, CITY ATTORNEY.
10/01/09 09:30:10 ROBIN MCKINNEY OF OUR OFFICE
10/01/09 09:30:13 STAFF SAT BOARD AND AS THEY'D
10/01/09 09:30:14 BEEN DEBATING THESE ISSUES AND
10/01/09 09:30:16 REVIEWING THIS, WE HAVE BEEN
10/01/09 09:30:19 PART OF THAT, AS, OUR ROLE OF
10/01/09 09:30:21 STAFF, WE HAVE LOOKED AT HOW
10/01/09 09:30:22 LANGUAGE COULD BE DRAFTED.
10/01/09 09:30:24 WE'VE NOT PREPARED AN ORDINANCE.
10/01/09 09:30:25 >> WOULD 30 DAYS WORK?
10/01/09 09:30:26 >> THAT WOULD BE FINE.
10/01/09 09:30:28 WE CAN TAKE 30 DAYS TO PREPARE
10/01/09 09:30:30 AN ORDINANCE AND PRESENT IT TO
10/01/09 09:30:30 COUNCIL.
10/01/09 09:30:33 >> MOTION AND SECOND BY
10/01/09 09:30:35 UH,
10/01/09 09:30:37 SECOND BY COUNCIL WOMAN
10/01/09 09:30:38 SAUL-SENA.
10/01/09 09:30:40 ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10/01/09 09:30:41 >> AYE.
10/01/09 09:30:42 >> OPPOSED--
10/01/09 09:30:45 >> WAIT, I ASKS MR.
10/01/09 09:30:45 COMPTON IF
10/01/09 09:30:47 HE HAS LANGUAGE FOR US.
10/01/09 09:30:50 I HAVE LANGUAGE IN MY
10/01/09 09:30:50 OFFICE
10/01/09 09:30:51 ABOUT OPPOSING OFFSHORE DRILLING
10/01/09 09:30:53 AND I CAN GET THAT TOGETHER BY
10/01/09 09:30:56 THE END OF OUR
10/01/09 09:30:56 COUNCIL MEETING.
10/01/09 09:30:57 I THINK COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE TAKEN
10/01/09 09:30:59 A STAND IN THE PAST ON THIS, BUT
10/01/09 09:31:01 SINCE IT'S COME UP YET AGAIN,
10/01/09 09:31:03 MAYBE WE NEED TO TAKE ANOTHER
10/01/09 09:31:03 STANCE.
10/01/09 09:31:05 I'LL GET THAT LANGUAGE, THANK
10/01/09 09:31:05 YOU.
10/01/09 09:31:08 >> THAT'S A
10/01/09 09:31:11 REAL YUCK
10/01/09 09:31:14 FACTOR.
10/01/09 09:31:14 [LAUGHTER]
10/01/09 09:31:17 >> ITEM TWO, COUNCILMAN
10/01/09 09:31:17 CAETANO?
10/01/09 09:31:20 >> I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST WE
10/01/09 09:31:23 CONTINUE THIS FOR 30, OR FOR TWO
10/01/09 09:31:26 MEETINGS, APPROXIMATELY 30 DAYS.
10/01/09 09:31:26 >> SECOND.
10/01/09 09:31:26 >> SECOND.
10/01/09 09:31:28 >> AND WE'LL ALL HAVE A CHANCE
10/01/09 09:31:31 TO MASSAGE THIS, LOOK AT IT, AND
10/01/09 09:31:33 THEN TRIBUNE AND TIMES CAN LOOK
10/01/09 09:31:35 AT IT AS WELL.
10/01/09 09:31:37 >> THANK YOU, I HAVE TO SHARE
10/01/09 09:31:39 THAT I STARTED THIS 16 YEARS
10/01/09 09:31:39 AGO.
10/01/09 09:31:42 FOR YEARS IT WAS STALLED IN THE
10/01/09 09:31:42 CITY.
10/01/09 09:31:44 LEGAL STAFF SAID THEY COULDN'T
10/01/09 09:31:45 GET ANYWHERE WITH IT.
10/01/09 09:31:46 NEWSPAPERS CAME UP WITH THE IDEA
10/01/09 09:31:48 OF THE SHARES BOXES.
10/01/09 09:31:51 I AGREE WITH YOU LOOKS SO MUCH
10/01/09 09:31:53 BETTER, SO MUCH TIDIER.
10/01/09 09:31:54 I'M PLEASED WE'VE MADE PROGRESS,
10/01/09 09:31:56 BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN BRIEFED ON
10/01/09 09:31:59 THIS EITHER SO I THINK 30 DAYS
10/01/09 09:31:59 IS GREAT.
10/01/09 09:32:00 THANK YOU.
10/01/09 09:32:03 >> SO 30 DAYS,
10/01/09 09:32:03 OCTOBER 15TH.
10/01/09 09:32:06 >> THAT'S NOT 30 DAYS.
10/01/09 09:32:06 TWO WEEKS?
10/01/09 09:32:07 >> NO, 30 DAYS.
10/01/09 09:32:10 THAT
10/01/09 09:32:13 WOULD
10/01/09 09:32:14 BE WHAT MEETING?
10/01/09 09:32:15 NOVEMBER 5TH.
10/01/09 09:32:16 >> THANK YOU.
10/01/09 09:32:19 >> MOTION
10/01/09 09:32:22 BY COUNCILMAN
10/01/09 09:32:24 DINGFELDER, SECONDED BY
10/01/09 09:32:25 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10/01/09 09:32:27 ANYONE WISH TO REQUEST
10/01/09 09:32:29 RECONSIDERATION ON LEGISLATIVE
10/01/09 09:32:29 MATTERS?
10/01/09 09:32:31 ANYONE WISH TO REQUEST A
10/01/09 09:32:34 RECONSIDERATION ON
10/01/09 09:32:34 LEGISLATIVE
10/01/09 09:32:34 MATTER?
10/01/09 09:32:35 OKAY...
10/01/09 09:32:38 OKAY, THEN
10/01/09 09:32:41 WE MOVE TO ITEM
10/01/09 09:32:45 THREE.
10/01/09 09:32:47 >> FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
10/01/09 09:32:50 THAT JUST NEEDS TO BE
10/01/09 09:32:52 READ AND
10/01/09 09:32:55 MOVED TO A SECOND READING AND
10/01/09 09:32:57 PUBLIC HEARING.
10/01/09 09:32:58 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU
10/01/09 09:33:00 WANT TO READ THAT?
10/01/09 09:33:03 >> AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
10/01/09 09:33:06 TAMPA, FLORIDA AMENDING CITY OF
10/01/09 09:33:09 TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES,
10/01/09 09:33:11 MAENDING SECTION 25-173, PUBLIC
10/01/09 09:33:11 SAFETY REQUIREMENTS FOR
10/01/09 09:33:13 SOLICITING BUSINESS OR
10/01/09 09:33:15 CONTRIBUTIONS FROM WITHIN
10/01/09 09:33:17 STREET, RIGHT-OF-WAY, REPEALING
10/01/09 09:33:19 ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS IN
10/01/09 09:33:23 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH
10/01/09 09:33:25 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY
10/01/09 09:33:26 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10/01/09 09:33:29 >> SECOND ON THAT.
10/01/09 09:33:29 >> OKAY.
10/01/09 09:33:31 >> THIS IS ANOTHER ORDINANCE
10/01/09 09:33:34 THAT I HADN'T NECESSARILY BEEN,
10/01/09 09:33:37 BEEN BRIEFED ON
10/01/09 09:33:39 AND I'M TRUSTING
10/01/09 09:33:41 IT LEGAL HANDED TRANSPORTATION.
10/01/09 09:33:42 THAT'S FOR ANOTHER TIME.
10/01/09 09:33:44 MY QUESTION ON THIS, CHIP IS UM,
10/01/09 09:33:46 AS I READ THROUGH THIS
10/01/09 09:33:49 ORDINANCE, IT BASICALLY, WE'RE
10/01/09 09:33:51 TRYING TO TWEAK SOLICITATION ON
10/01/09 09:33:53 THE STREETS UH, TO MANDATE THAT
10/01/09 09:33:56 THEY WEAR ORANGE VESTS FOR THEIR
10/01/09 09:33:57 OWN PROTECTION, UM, AND THAT THE
10/01/09 09:34:00 PART THAT I READ THAT'S A LITTLE
10/01/09 09:34:00 BIT CONFUSING.
10/01/09 09:34:01 IT SAYS "AS THE LIGHT CHANGES,
10/01/09 09:34:04 THEY NEED TO GET OFF
10/01/09 09:34:06 THE
10/01/09 09:34:06 RIGHT-OF-WAY."
10/01/09 09:34:07 THAT'S THE WAY I READ IT.
10/01/09 09:34:09 WHICH IS A GOOD THING, BUT DOES
10/01/09 09:34:12 THAT MEAN THEY NEED TO GET OUT
10/01/09 09:34:13 OF THE MEDIAN?
10/01/09 09:34:13 UM...
10/01/09 09:34:15 BECAUSE I WOULD THINK THAT
10/01/09 09:34:18 THE MEDIAN IS PART OF
10/01/09 09:34:20 THE LEGAL
10/01/09 09:34:20 RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10/01/09 09:34:22 AND PERHAPS I'M MISREADING IT,
10/01/09 09:34:24 BUT THAT'S WHY I NEED TO BE
10/01/09 09:34:25 BRIEFED IN ADVANCE.
10/01/09 09:34:28 >> YES, MR. DINGFELDER.
10/01/09 09:34:30 THIS UM, THEY HAVE TO GET OUT OF
10/01/09 09:34:32 THE PAVED ROADWAY, BUT THEY ARE
10/01/09 09:34:34 ALLOWED TO BE IN THE MEDIAN.
10/01/09 09:34:36 >> OKAY, SO THAT'S THE INTENT.
10/01/09 09:34:36 >> YES.
10/01/09 09:34:38 >> SO WE'RE STATING THE INTENT
10/01/09 09:34:39 TODAY FOR FUTURE REFERENCE.
10/01/09 09:34:42 IF YOU FEEL IT'S CLEAR ENOUGH
10/01/09 09:34:44 THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.
10/01/09 09:34:47 THEY DO SAY ON THE MEDIAN, EVEN
10/01/09 09:34:49 THAT THE PEOPLE WHO SELL
10/01/09 09:34:51 NEWSPAPERS, STAY ON THE MEDIAN
10/01/09 09:34:53 IN BETWEEN LIGHT TURNS.
10/01/09 09:34:53 UM....
10/01/09 09:34:55 >> YEAH, IT USES THE TERM, THEY
10/01/09 09:34:58 HAVE TO EXIT THE PAVED ROADWAY
10/01/09 09:35:01 AND BY STATE STATUTE, THE PAVED
10/01/09 09:35:03 ROADWAY IS THE PORTION THAT
10/01/09 09:35:04 MOTOR VEHICLES TRAVEL ON.
10/01/09 09:35:06 >> OKAY.
10/01/09 09:35:09 THANK YOU.
10/01/09 09:35:09 >> THANK YOU.
10/01/09 09:35:09 >> REBECCA?
10/01/09 09:35:12 SORRY IF I
10/01/09 09:35:13 SCARED YOU, DEAR.
10/01/09 09:35:13 [LAUGHTER]
10/01/09 09:35:15 >> DID WE ANSWER THE NUMBERING
10/01/09 09:35:18 SYSTEM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TO
10/01/09 09:35:19 IDENTIFY THE VENDORS WHEN
10/01/09 09:35:22 THEY'RE OUT IN THE
10/01/09 09:35:22 STREET?
10/01/09 09:35:24 UH, NO, SIR, WE DID NOT.
10/01/09 09:35:25 WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THE
10/01/09 09:35:28 OPTION THAT CITY COUNCIL VOTED
10/01/09 09:35:30 AND IT WAS JUST PLACED IN
10/01/09 09:35:32 ORDINANCE FORM, THERE WERE NO
10/01/09 09:35:32 CHANGES.
10/01/09 09:35:34 >> WHY DIDN'T WE INSTITUTE THAT
10/01/09 09:35:35 OR WHY DIDN'T YOU RECOMMEND IT?
10/01/09 09:35:37 I DID TALK TO THE PERSON THAT
10/01/09 09:35:39 RUNS THOSE VENDORS AND HE WAS IN
10/01/09 09:35:40 AGREEMENT OF IT.
10/01/09 09:35:43 WE HAVE NO WAY OF IDENTIFYING IF
10/01/09 09:35:44 SOMEONE MAKES SOME SARCASTIC
10/01/09 09:35:47 REMARKS OR DIRTY REMARKS TO A
10/01/09 09:35:48 PARTICIPANT BUYING A NEWSPAPER.
10/01/09 09:35:51 THERE'S NO WAY OF
10/01/09 09:35:53 IDENTIFYING
10/01/09 09:35:53 THESE PEOPLE.
10/01/09 09:35:56 >> WHAT IS BEFORE YOU, DIRECTLY
10/01/09 09:35:57 WAS A MOTION FROM CITY COUNCIL.
10/01/09 09:36:00 SO I DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO
10/01/09 09:36:01 MAKE ANY CHANGES AT THIS POINT.
10/01/09 09:36:03 YOU HAD THE LANGUAGE THIS TIME
10/01/09 09:36:05 AND CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED THAT
10/01/09 09:36:07 LANGUAGE, WHAT'S THAT I PUT INTO
10/01/09 09:36:08 THIS ORDINANCE.
10/01/09 09:36:09 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I DISAGREE WITH
10/01/09 09:36:11 THIS, I THINK WE NEED A WAY TO
10/01/09 09:36:12 IDENTIFY THESE PEOPLE WHEN
10/01/09 09:36:15 THEY'RE OUT O THERE ON THE
10/01/09 09:36:15 STREET.
10/01/09 09:36:17 IF YOUR WIFE DRIVES UP TO BUY A
10/01/09 09:36:19 NEWSPAPER AND YOU HAVE SOME WISE
10/01/09 09:36:22 GUY MAKING REMARKS TO YOUR WIFE,
10/01/09 09:36:24 YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LIKE IT AND
10/01/09 09:36:27 HOW IS SHE GOING TO IDENTIFY
10/01/09 09:36:27 THIS GUY?
10/01/09 09:36:29 I RECOMMENDED THEY HAVE A
10/01/09 09:36:30 NUMBERING SYSTEM AND THE GUY
10/01/09 09:36:32 THAT RUNS THOSE PEOPLE SAID HE
10/01/09 09:36:33 AGREES WITH THAT AND THEY'D BE
10/01/09 09:36:36 WILLING TO KEEP THE NUMBERING
10/01/09 09:36:36 SYSTEM.
10/01/09 09:36:37 THEY'D PUT A TAG ON EACH PERSON
10/01/09 09:36:40 AND THEY COULD BE IDENTIFIED.
10/01/09 09:36:43 I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO
10/01/09 09:36:44 DO ANYTHING FOR US.
10/01/09 09:36:45 >> CITY COUNCIL LAST TIME YOU
10/01/09 09:36:47 HAD BEFORE YOU TWO OPTIONS.
10/01/09 09:36:49 ONE WAS WHERE PEOPLE CAME PRIOR
10/01/09 09:36:52 TO
10/01/09 09:36:54 THE SOLICITATION AND UM, AND
10/01/09 09:36:55 LET THE CITY KNOW THEY WERE
10/01/09 09:36:57 GOING TO BE OUT THERE.
10/01/09 09:36:59 THAT WAS, AT THAT MEETING, THE
10/01/09 09:37:02 TRIBUNE SHOWED UP AND SAID
10/01/09 09:37:03 THEY
10/01/09 09:37:04 SUPPORTED OPTION TWO, STRICTLY
10/01/09 09:37:05 THE SAFETY REGULATIONS AND THAT
10/01/09 09:37:08 WAS THE DIRECTION I TOOK FROM
10/01/09 09:37:09 CITY COUNCIL.
10/01/09 09:37:10 >> THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR
10/01/09 09:37:11 AND SECOND.
10/01/09 09:37:12 ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTIONS.
10/01/09 09:37:15 >> IS THIS THE FIRST
10/01/09 09:37:15 READING.
10/01/09 09:37:18 >> YES, SIGNIFY
10/01/09 09:37:24 BY SAYING AYE
10/01/09 09:37:25 AYE.
10/01/09 09:37:26 OPPOSES?
10/01/09 09:37:27 >> SEPTEMBER 15TH AT 9:30 A.M.
10/01/09 09:37:29 THAT'S FOR PUBLIC HEARING AS
10/01/09 09:37:29 WELL.
10/01/09 09:37:32 THAT'S WHEN IT CAN BE TAKEN UP
10/01/09 09:37:35 BY
10/01/09 09:37:37 THE PUBLIC.
10/01/09 09:37:37 >> ITEM FOUR?
10/01/09 09:37:40 DO WE NEED TO READ THAT
10/01/09 09:37:40 ORDINANCE?
10/01/09 09:37:43 >> THAT'S THE ONE WITH THE
10/01/09 09:37:43 BELT.
10/01/09 09:37:45 OH MY GOD?
10/01/09 09:37:46 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10/01/09 09:37:48 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING
10/01/09 09:37:49 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
10/01/09 09:37:51 CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE OF THE
10/01/09 09:37:54 CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING
10/01/09 09:37:56 CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 25,
10/01/09 09:37:59 ARTICLE 3, DIVISION
10/01/09 09:37:59 3.
10/01/09 09:38:01 TRANSPORTATION REPEALING SECTION
10/01/09 09:38:04 25-186, REGARDING SPECIFIC
10/01/09 09:38:06 TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS, WARNING
10/01/09 09:38:08 SIGNALS, BICYCLES, IN ITS
10/01/09 09:38:11 ENTIRETY PROVIDING FOR
10/01/09 09:38:13 SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR
10/01/09 09:38:16 REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
10/01/09 09:38:17 CONFLICT PROVIDING FOR AN
10/01/09 09:38:17 EFFECTIVE DATE.
10/01/09 09:38:20 >> I WASN'T IN OFFICE THAT YEAR.
10/01/09 09:38:21 >> OKAY.
10/01/09 09:38:24 >> MOVED
10/01/09 09:38:26 AND SECOND.
10/01/09 09:38:26 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10/01/09 09:38:29 >> ALL IN FAVOR OF RINGING THE
10/01/09 09:38:30 BELL?
10/01/09 09:38:30 [LAUGHTER]
10/01/09 09:38:31 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, SECOND READING
10/01/09 09:38:34 AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
10/01/09 09:38:36 OCTOBER 15TH 2009 AT 9:30 A.M.
10/01/09 09:38:37 .
10/01/09 09:38:39 >> WE'LL MOVE NOW TO OUR
10/01/09 09:38:41 COMMITTEE REPORTS.
10/01/09 09:38:43 PARK AND RECREATION, COUNCIL
10/01/09 09:38:44 WOMAN SAUL-SENA.
10/01/09 09:38:46 >> I BELIEVE I WASN'T SUPPOSED
10/01/09 09:38:47 TO MOVE 5 AND 6.
10/01/09 09:38:50 I'D
10/01/09 09:38:53 LIKE
10/01/09 09:38:56 TO
10/01/09 09:38:57 MOVE RESOLUTION
10/01/09 09:38:57 SEVEN.
10/01/09 09:39:00 A SUBSTITUTE ON 9,
10/01/09 09:39:04 10 AND 11.
10/01/09 09:39:04 >> SECOND.
10/01/09 09:39:07 >> MRS. SAUL-SENA, I
10/01/09 09:39:07 KNOW YOU
10/01/09 09:39:09 WANT TO GIVE AN EXTRA SPECIAL
10/01/09 09:39:12 SHUT OUT ON NUMBER 9 AND 32, THE
10/01/09 09:39:14 BEGINNING OF THE DAVIS ISLAND
10/01/09 09:39:15 WALKING TRAIL OUT THERE.
10/01/09 09:39:16 >> YES!
10/01/09 09:39:19 >> BY THE UH, BY THE UH,
10/01/09 09:39:19 AIRPORT
10/01/09 09:39:20 UH, ON DAVIS ISLAND.
10/01/09 09:39:23 >> YES, AFTER FOUR YEARS,
10/01/09 09:39:23 THE
10/01/09 09:39:25 DAVIS ISLANDS COMMUNITY TOOK THE
10/01/09 09:39:26 MONEY GIVEN TO THEM BY THE
10/01/09 09:39:28 HOSPITAL AS PART OF THE
10/01/09 09:39:30 SETTLEMENT FOR BUILDING THE
10/01/09 09:39:30 PARKING GARAGE.
10/01/09 09:39:31 THEY'RE BEGINNING THE
10/01/09 09:39:32 CONSTRUCTION OF THE MULTIPURPOSE
10/01/09 09:39:34 TRAIL AROUND THE PERIMETER OF
10/01/09 09:39:37 THE UM, AIRPORT WITH EXTRA TREES
10/01/09 09:39:39 AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S BEEN VERY
10/01/09 09:39:41 INVOLVED IN DETERMINING THE, THE
10/01/09 09:39:41 POSITIONING OF THE TRAIL.
10/01/09 09:39:44 IT'S GOING TO
10/01/09 09:39:47 BE A WIN WIN WIN.
10/01/09 09:39:49 NUMBER 7 AND 8, MONEY TO FIX
10/01/09 09:39:52 THINGS AT THE TAMPA THEATER.
10/01/09 09:39:55 THOSE ELECTRICAL ROOM UPGRADES
10/01/09 09:39:58 HAVE BEEN DESPERATELY
10/01/09 09:40:00 NEEDED FOR
10/01/09 09:40:00 AGES.
10/01/09 09:40:03 TAMPA THEATER HAS THE ORIGINAL
10/01/09 09:40:04 WIRING FROM THE 1920s.
10/01/09 09:40:06 THIS COULDN'T HAPPEN A MOMENT
10/01/09 09:40:06 TOO SOON.
10/01/09 09:40:09 SO IT'S A GOOD DAY IN PARKS AND
10/01/09 09:40:10 REC AND CULTURE.
10/01/09 09:40:11 >> OKAY, MOVE AND SECOND.
10/01/09 09:40:14 ALL IN FAVOR SAY
10/01/09 09:40:15 AYE.
10/01/09 09:40:15 >> AYE.
10/01/09 09:40:16 >> OPPOSES?
10/01/09 09:40:19 >> OKAY, PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE
10/01/09 09:40:22 COUNCIL
10/01/09 09:40:23 MIRANDA.
10/01/09 09:40:24 >> MOVE ITEMS 12-20.
10/01/09 09:40:27 >> MOVE AND SECONDED
10/01/09 09:40:30 BY COUNCIL
10/01/09 09:40:34 DINGFELDER.
10/01/09 09:40:34 SAY AYE?
10/01/09 09:40:34 >> AYE.
10/01/09 09:40:35 >> OPPOSES?
10/01/09 09:40:38 >> OKAY,
10/01/09 09:40:39 THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
10/01/09 09:40:42 >> I MOVE ITEMS 21-24.
10/01/09 09:40:42 >> SECOND.
10/01/09 09:40:45 I UNDERSTAND NUMBER 25 WILL BE
10/01/09 09:40:46 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
10/01/09 09:40:49 UH, NUMBER 26 AND NUMBER 27, UH,
10/01/09 09:40:52 BUT
10/01/09 09:40:54 I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT
10/01/09 09:40:55 I'M GOING TO ASK LATER IN THE
10/01/09 09:40:58 MEETING FOR A STAFF REPORT ON
10/01/09 09:41:00 NUMBER 27 BECAUSE WE'RE
10/01/09 09:41:03 RECEIVING MORE THAN 700-PAGE
10/01/09 09:41:05 REPORT WHICH WE BELIEVE JUST GOT
10/01/09 09:41:05 YESTERDAY.
10/01/09 09:41:08 SO UH, I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST
10/01/09 09:41:11 GET AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF
10/01/09 09:41:11 THAT.
10/01/09 09:41:12 UM...
10/01/09 09:41:13 AT ANOTHER MEETING.
10/01/09 09:41:16 >> YEAH, I UM, DID WE EVER GET
10/01/09 09:41:18 BACK ON ADMINISTRATION, I RAISED
10/01/09 09:41:19 THE ISSUE WITH MR. SMITH.
10/01/09 09:41:22 >> I BELIEVE, I DON'T KNOW
10/01/09 09:41:24 WHETHER COUNCIL GOT IT, I
10/01/09 09:41:26 DISTRIBUTED IT, BUT I BELIEVE WE
10/01/09 09:41:29 SENT AN E-MAIL TO CITY COUNCIL
10/01/09 09:41:29 LATE AFTERNOON YESTERDAY.
10/01/09 09:41:31 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECEIVED IT,
10/01/09 09:41:34 BUT I'LL MAKE COPIES AND
10/01/09 09:41:35 DISTRIBUTE IT.
10/01/09 09:41:38 I RAISED AN AGENDA REVIEW
10/01/09 09:41:40 YESTERDAY THAT IT WAS ATTACHED
10/01/09 09:41:42 TO IT.
10/01/09 09:41:44 MOST DIDN'T GET IT UNTIL
10/01/09 09:41:44 YESTERDAY SO....
10/01/09 09:41:47 >> YEAH SO UM, I DON'T KNOW IF
10/01/09 09:41:48 I'D MAKE THAT MOTION NOW OR
10/01/09 09:41:51 LATER THAT WE GET A REPORT
10/01/09 09:41:52 ON
10/01/09 09:41:54 THIS FROM UM--
10/01/09 09:41:56 >> WHY DON'T YOU, LET'S CARRY
10/01/09 09:41:58 THE OTHER ITEMS AND COME BACK
10/01/09 09:41:59 AND MAKE A MOTION ON THAT.
10/01/09 09:42:01 >> IS THAT SECOND ON THESE
10/01/09 09:42:04 --MOVE AND SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR
10/01/09 09:42:08 SAY AYE.
10/01/09 09:42:09 >> AYE.
10/01/09 09:42:09 >> OPPOSES?
10/01/09 09:42:12 >> ITEM 27 NOW
10/01/09 09:42:13 OR WAIT?
10/01/09 09:42:15 >> I'M GOING TO READ THE MEMO
10/01/09 09:42:16 RIGHT NOW WHICH I HAVEN'T SEEN,
10/01/09 09:42:19 SO I'LL BRING IT UP
10/01/09 09:42:20 LATER.
10/01/09 09:42:23 >> BUILDING AND ZONING,
10/01/09 09:42:24 COUNCIL
10/01/09 09:42:25 CAETANO.
10/01/09 09:42:28 >> I'D LIKE TO MOVE
10/01/09 09:42:29 ITEMS 28-64.
10/01/09 09:42:30 >> SUBSTITUTE ITEM 32.
10/01/09 09:42:32 >> I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SEVERAL
10/01/09 09:42:34 OF THOSE ITEMS IN THERE.
10/01/09 09:42:37 ITEM 37, A LOT OF
10/01/09 09:42:39 THIS IS
10/01/09 09:42:42 COMMUNITY UM, FUNDING COMMUNITY
10/01/09 09:42:43 AND DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT.
10/01/09 09:42:46 ITEM 37 IS $100,000 FOR CENTER
10/01/09 09:42:48 FOR WOMEN WHICH WILL SPEAK TO
10/01/09 09:42:51 THE ISSUE UH, REHABBING HOMES IN
10/01/09 09:42:52 PARTICULAR FOR SENIORS.
10/01/09 09:42:52 UH...
10/01/09 09:42:55 AND THEN OTHER ITEMS IN
10/01/09 09:42:55 THERE, UM...
10/01/09 09:42:57 $118,000 FOR THE
10/01/09 09:42:58 COMMUNITY TO DEVELOP,
10/01/09 09:42:59 CORPORATIONS TO DEVELOP
10/01/09 09:43:02 COMMUNITIES OF TAMPA UH, FOR
10/01/09 09:43:03 YOUTH LEADERSHIP PROGRAMS.
10/01/09 09:43:03 UM...
10/01/09 09:43:06 MONEYS IN THERE
10/01/09 09:43:07 FOR THE
10/01/09 09:43:08 HOMELESS COALITION.
10/01/09 09:43:09 THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE
10/01/09 09:43:10 ONGOING THAT I WANTED TO
10/01/09 09:43:12 HIGHLIGHT SO THAT THE PEOPLE IN
10/01/09 09:43:14 THE COMMUNITY CAN KNOW THAT UM,
10/01/09 09:43:15 THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE
10/01/09 09:43:17 STILL DOING, EVEN IN THE MIDST
10/01/09 09:43:20 OF A TOUGH ECONOMIC CLIMATE.
10/01/09 09:43:22 FOR OUR SENIORS AND FOR OUR
10/01/09 09:43:25 YOUTH AND FOR
10/01/09 09:43:26 THE HOMELESS.
10/01/09 09:43:29 A MOTION AND SECOND, ALL IN
10/01/09 09:43:32 FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
10/01/09 09:43:35 SAYING
10/01/09 09:43:38 AYE?
10/01/09 09:43:38 >> AYE.
10/01/09 09:43:38 >> OPPOSED?
10/01/09 09:43:41 OKAY...
10/01/09 09:43:42 .
10/01/09 09:43:44 >> THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE?
10/01/09 09:43:44 COUNCIL DINGFELDER?
10/01/09 09:43:47 >>
10/01/09 09:43:49 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10/01/09 09:43:52 I'D LIKE
10/01/09 09:43:55 TO MOVE ITEMS 65-74.
10/01/09 09:43:56 WHILE I'M MOVING THOSE, I'D LIKE
10/01/09 09:43:59 TO POINT OUT ON 67
10/01/09 09:44:02 AND 68 AND
10/01/09 09:44:05 GIVE RECOGNITION TO
10/01/09 09:44:08 MRS.
10/01/09 09:44:08 SAUL-SENA.
10/01/09 09:44:10 THIS IS $879,000 FOR PEDESTRIAN
10/01/09 09:44:10 IMPROVEMENTS.
10/01/09 09:44:14 I KNOW SHE'S BEEN WORKING FOR
10/01/09 09:44:17 DECADES ON THAT UM, SHE'S
10/01/09 09:44:17 NOT
10/01/09 09:44:17 THAT OLD.
10/01/09 09:44:17 [LAUGHTER]
10/01/09 09:44:20 AND I'D LIKE TO ALSO NOTE THAT I
10/01/09 09:44:21 THINK ABOUT 700,000 OF THAT IS
10/01/09 09:44:23 COMING FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA
10/01/09 09:44:26 SO THAT'S ONLY ABOUT $100,000
10/01/09 09:44:28 AND CHANGE FROM THE CITY.
10/01/09 09:44:29 KENNEDY BOULEVARD'S ALREADY
10/01/09 09:44:31 LOOKING REALLY, REALLY NICE WITH
10/01/09 09:44:31 THE LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS.
10/01/09 09:44:34 I'M SORRY I WAS CRITICAL EARLIER
10/01/09 09:44:37 BECAUSE NOW I BITE MY TONGUE.
10/01/09 09:44:40 AND UH, AND THESE
10/01/09 09:44:40 PEDESTRIAN
10/01/09 09:44:42 IMPROVEMENTS ARE WELL-NEEDED FOR
10/01/09 09:44:42 THE SAFETY.
10/01/09 09:44:42 THANK YOU.
10/01/09 09:44:43 >> SECOND.
10/01/09 09:44:43 >> THANK YOU.
10/01/09 09:44:46 >> MOVED AND
10/01/09 09:44:47 SECOND.
10/01/09 09:44:48 UM...
10/01/09 09:44:50 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
10/01/09 09:44:50 MIRANDA.
10/01/09 09:44:53 ALL IN FAVOR SAY
10/01/09 09:44:56 AYE.
10/01/09 09:44:56 >> AYE.
10/01/09 09:44:57 >> OPPOSES?
10/01/09 09:44:57 >> 75677.
10/01/09 09:44:57 >> SECOND.
10/01/09 09:45:00 >> MOVED AND SECOND BY
10/01/09 09:45:01 COUNCIL
10/01/09 09:45:01 SAUL-SENA.
10/01/09 09:45:04 SIGNIFICANT BY SAYING AYE?
10/01/09 09:45:05 >> AYE.
10/01/09 09:45:08 >>
10/01/09 09:45:10 OPPOSES?
10/01/09 09:45:10 >> OKAY, ITEM 78.
10/01/09 09:45:15 >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL--
10/01/09 09:45:17 >> I'M SORRY JUST, IF WE COULD
10/01/09 09:45:19 HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THIS
10/01/09 09:45:21 PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE?
10/01/09 09:45:22 >> SO MOVED.
10/01/09 09:45:22 >> SECOND.
10/01/09 09:45:25 >> ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
10/01/09 09:45:26 SAYING AYE.
10/01/09 09:45:27 >> AYE.
10/01/09 09:45:30 >> GOOD MORNING, BEFORE YOU
10/01/09 09:45:31 IS
10/01/09 09:45:34 AN ORDINANCE BEING OFFERED FOR
10/01/09 09:45:34 SECOND READING.
10/01/09 09:45:36 I HAVE OFFERED AN ORDINANCE.
10/01/09 09:45:39 THE ONLY CHANGE FROM
10/01/09 09:45:40 THE
10/01/09 09:45:43 ORIGINAL IS 22-67 HAS BEEN
10/01/09 09:45:44 REMOVED FROM THE ORIGINAL THAT
10/01/09 09:45:47 HAD TO DO WITH PERMIT REVOCATION
10/01/09 09:45:50 AND REALLY WASN'T APPROPRIATE
10/01/09 09:45:52 FOR ENFORCEMENT THROUGH CIVIL
10/01/09 09:45:52 CITATION.
10/01/09 09:45:54 THE ORDINANCE AMENDS TAMPA CITY
10/01/09 09:45:57 CODE 23.5 WHICH GOVERNS THE
10/01/09 09:45:58 CIVIL CITATION PROCESS.
10/01/09 09:45:59 UH...
10/01/09 09:46:00 JUST TO REMIND YOU, THIS
10/01/09 09:46:02 CAME TO ME FOR FIRST READING
10/01/09 09:46:04 SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
10/01/09 09:46:05 IT WAS CONTINUED UH, FOR
10/01/09 09:46:08 SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME TO
10/01/09 09:46:10 ALLOW FAN AND OTHERS AN
10/01/09 09:46:11 OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE
10/01/09 09:46:12 ORDINANCE CHANGES.
10/01/09 09:46:14 JUST TO GO THROUGH QUICKLY THE
10/01/09 09:46:16 BIG CHANGES, WE'VE CHANGED THE
10/01/09 09:46:17 DEFINITION OF REPEAT VIOLATION
10/01/09 09:46:19 AS BEING AMENDED TO INCLUDE UH,
10/01/09 09:46:21 THOSE THAT FAIL TO RESPOND AND
10/01/09 09:46:24 THEN ARE FOUND GUILTY BY
10/01/09 09:46:26 UH,
10/01/09 09:46:26 DEFAULT.
10/01/09 09:46:27 BY A JUDGE.
10/01/09 09:46:28 UM, WE'RE ADDING CODE SECTIONS
10/01/09 09:46:32 INTO THE FINE SCHEDULE
10/01/09 09:46:32 FROM
10/01/09 09:46:35 CHAPTERS 19, 22, 25 AND 27
10/01/09 09:46:36 TO
10/01/09 09:46:38 ALLOW FOR ENFORCEMENT BY CIVIL
10/01/09 09:46:40 CITATION AND FINALLY, THE LAST
10/01/09 09:46:43 THING IN THERE IS ANY OTHER CODE
10/01/09 09:46:44 THAT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY
10/01/09 09:46:47 IDENTIFIED UM, IS, IS IN, IS IN
10/01/09 09:46:49 UNDER UH, IS GOING TO BE
10/01/09 09:46:50 IDENTIFIED AS A CLASS 1
10/01/09 09:46:53 VIOLATION TO ALLOW
10/01/09 09:46:54 FOR
10/01/09 09:46:54 ENFORCEMENT.
10/01/09 09:46:55 >> OKAY.
10/01/09 09:46:55 >> COUNCIL SAUL-SENA.
10/01/09 09:46:58 >> THANK YOU MR. MUELLER, I WANT
10/01/09 09:46:58 TO THANK YOU.
10/01/09 09:47:00 I'M SO HAPPY WE'RE AT THIS
10/01/09 09:47:00 MOMENT.
10/01/09 09:47:02 COULD YOU JUST REAL QUICKLY
10/01/09 09:47:03 EXPLAIN THAT THIS WILL GIVE OUR
10/01/09 09:47:06 PEOPLE IN THE, IN THE STREET,
10/01/09 09:47:08 THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS,
10/01/09 09:47:10 THE ABILITY TO ISSUE A CITATION
10/01/09 09:47:13 WHEN THEY SEE
10/01/09 09:47:14 SOMETHING WRONG.
10/01/09 09:47:15 >> ABSOLUTELY.
10/01/09 09:47:17 IF I RECALL TO REMIND YOU, WE
10/01/09 09:47:18 ALREADY HAVE A CIVIL CITATION
10/01/09 09:47:21 PROCESS UP AND RUNNING,
10/01/09 09:47:23 ESPECIALLILY FOR DEPARTMENT OF
10/01/09 09:47:25 CODE ENFORCEMENT'S MOTOR
10/01/09 09:47:25 SECTIONS.
10/01/09 09:47:26 THESE CHANGES, FOR THE MOST PART
10/01/09 09:47:27 ARE FOR THE TRANSPORTATION
10/01/09 09:47:29 DEPARTMENT SO THAT THEY CAN
10/01/09 09:47:31 ADDRESS IMMEDIATELY OR IN A VERY
10/01/09 09:47:34 TIMELY MANNER, ISSUES THAT OCCUR
10/01/09 09:47:36 IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10/01/09 09:47:38 WHICH UP UNTIL THIS POINT HAVE
10/01/09 09:47:41 BEEN HARD
10/01/09 09:47:43 FOR THEM TO ADDRESS
10/01/09 09:47:43 BECAUSE CODE ENFORCEMENT
10/01/09 09:47:45 PROCESSES WOULD TAKE TOO LONG.
10/01/09 09:47:48 THIS PROVIDES FOR MUCH
10/01/09 09:47:50 MORE
10/01/09 09:47:51 IMMEDIATE ENFORCEABILITY.
10/01/09 09:47:52 >> THANK YOU, MR. MUELLER,
10/01/09 09:47:54 PLEASE, THE SECOND PART, I
10/01/09 09:47:56 UNDERSTOOD THE FIRST PART VERY
10/01/09 09:47:59 CLUELY, BUT THE SECOND PART,
10/01/09 09:48:01 IT'S AN OPEN-ENDED THING.
10/01/09 09:48:04 IF IT'S NOT IN THESE CHAPTERS
10/01/09 09:48:05 AND CODES, IT'S AUTOMATICALLY BE
10/01/09 09:48:06 IN ONE WITHOUT BEING SPECIFIC
10/01/09 09:48:09 ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT IT
10/01/09 09:48:11 IS.
10/01/09 09:48:12 WE'RE GIVING THE CODE
10/01/09 09:48:15 ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, WHICH HAVE
10/01/09 09:48:17 DONE A GREAT JOB, THE RIGHT TO
10/01/09 09:48:18 RECTIFY SOMETHING THAT'S NOT
10/01/09 09:48:18 THERE?
10/01/09 09:48:20 >> NO, WHAT IT IS, WE HAVE
10/01/09 09:48:21 THROUGHOUT HERE, IN OUR
10/01/09 09:48:22 DIFFERENT CLASSES, SPECIFIC
10/01/09 09:48:24 CODES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED UNDER
10/01/09 09:48:26 THOSE CLASSES AND THAT'S HOW
10/01/09 09:48:28 THEY WOULD BE ENFORCED WITH THAT
10/01/09 09:48:29 MUCH OF A FINE.
10/01/09 09:48:32 WHAT WE WANTED TO
10/01/09 09:48:32 DO, WE DON'T
10/01/09 09:48:34 HAVE EVERYTHING IN THERE.
10/01/09 09:48:35 SOMETIMES A SITUATION MAY OCCUR
10/01/09 09:48:37 WHERE WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT, BUT
10/01/09 09:48:39 WE HAVEN'T GOT IT IN THERE AND
10/01/09 09:48:40 WE CAN'T ADDRESS IT.
10/01/09 09:48:42 FOR EXAMPLE, THIS TOOK FIVE, SIX
10/01/09 09:48:43 MONTHS TO GET IN FRONT OF YOU,
10/01/09 09:48:45 IF WE NEED ADDRESS IT QUICKER
10/01/09 09:48:47 THAN THAT, IT GIVES US THE
10/01/09 09:48:48 ABILITY TO DO THAT.
10/01/09 09:48:49 HOPEFULLY WE DON'T EVER HAVE TO
10/01/09 09:48:52 DO IT, BUT IT WON'T LEAVE US TO
10/01/09 09:48:55 WHERE WE HAVE NO
10/01/09 09:48:57 WAY OF DOING
10/01/09 09:48:57 ENFORCEMENT.
10/01/09 09:49:00 >> IF I MAY, DO WE HAVE CLASSES
10/01/09 09:49:02 FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS?
10/01/09 09:49:03 LATELY I'VE BEEN GETTING
10/01/09 09:49:04 COMPLAINTS THAT DON'T MAKE
10/01/09 09:49:04 SENSE.
10/01/09 09:49:06 I'LL TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE,
10/01/09 09:49:08 IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU, ABOUT THE
10/01/09 09:49:08 SYSTEM.
10/01/09 09:49:10 LET ME CLARIFY THAT FIRST.
10/01/09 09:49:13 THEY GO OUT AND SAY "THIS IS A
10/01/09 09:49:13 JUNK YARD.
10/01/09 09:49:15 THIS IS THE WRONG ZONING."
10/01/09 09:49:17 HOW DO THEY KNOW IT'S THE WRONG
10/01/09 09:49:17 ZONING?
10/01/09 09:49:19 I DON'T EVEN KNOW AND I HANDLE
10/01/09 09:49:19 ZONINGS.
10/01/09 09:49:21 I HAVE TO GO OUT AND VISUALLY
10/01/09 09:49:23 INSPECT AND LOOK AT THE RECORD
10/01/09 09:49:23 BOOKS.
10/01/09 09:49:25 SO THEN, THOSE PEOPLE ARE PUT
10/01/09 09:49:26 THROUGH THE RINGER, THEY HAVE TO
10/01/09 09:49:28 COME BACK AND PROVE THEY'RE NOT
10/01/09 09:49:29 A JUNK YARD.
10/01/09 09:49:31 TO ME A JUNK YARD IS WHERE YOU
10/01/09 09:49:33 TAKE A COMPLETE AUTOMOBILE IN,
10/01/09 09:49:35 YOU HAVE A CRUSHER MACHINE THAT
10/01/09 09:49:38 MAKES A LOT OF NOISE, YOU
10/01/09 09:49:40 DISMANTLE THE EQUIPMENT.
10/01/09 09:49:43 THERE ARE SCRAP YARDS, WHICH
10/01/09 09:49:44 THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.
10/01/09 09:49:47 THE PEOPLE THAT DO
10/01/09 09:49:48 THE HARD
10/01/09 09:49:50 WORK, TRANSMISSION, AUTOMOBILE
10/01/09 09:49:53 REPAIRS, ALL KIND
10/01/09 09:49:54 OF REPAIRS.
10/01/09 09:49:57 AT THE END OF SOME PERIOD
10/01/09 09:49:57 OF
10/01/09 09:49:59 TIME, THEY GATHER ITEMS THAT ARE
10/01/09 09:49:59 WORTH SOMETHING.
10/01/09 09:50:02 SELL IT TO THEM, THEY PUT IT IN
10/01/09 09:50:03 PILES, PICK IT UP AND THEN TAKE
10/01/09 09:50:05 IT TO THE JUNK YARD.
10/01/09 09:50:07 SO I'M SAYING TO MYSELF, DO THEY
10/01/09 09:50:10 HAVE SMSH SPECIAL TRAINING
10/01/09 09:50:11 TO GO
10/01/09 09:50:11 BY
10/01/09 09:50:12 GUIDELINES.
10/01/09 09:50:13 DO THEY MEET WITH THEIR BOSS OR
10/01/09 09:50:15 COMMITTEE OF ONE OR TWO WITH
10/01/09 09:50:16 YOURSELF INCLUDED TO UNDERSTAND
10/01/09 09:50:18 THAT BEFORE YOU GIVE THE TICKET
10/01/09 09:50:21 AND PUT THESE
10/01/09 09:50:22 PEOPLE THROUGH
10/01/09 09:50:25 FINANCIAL LOSS UH, A PERIOD OF
10/01/09 09:50:27 TIME WHEN UNCERTAINTY AND UH,
10/01/09 09:50:28 THE WORKPLACE IS THERE THAT
10/01/09 09:50:30 YOU'RE GOING TO CLOSE THEM DOWN,
10/01/09 09:50:32 I'VE SEEN SIGNED VIOLATIONS AND
10/01/09 09:50:35 ONE PART OF TOWN THAT GET A
10/01/09 09:50:37 TICKET, THEN I SEE SIGN
10/01/09 09:50:38 VIOLATIONS IN ANOTHER PART OF
10/01/09 09:50:41 TOWN THAT NEVER GET A
10/01/09 09:50:42 TICKET.
10/01/09 09:50:45 AND I HAVE
10/01/09 09:50:46 [INAUDIBLE]
10/01/09 09:50:46 ON THAT.
10/01/09 09:50:48 100 OF THEM I COULD SHOW YOU.
10/01/09 09:50:51 DO WE PICK AND CHOOSE
10/01/09 09:50:51 THE LOW
10/01/09 09:50:53 LYING FRUIT AND LEAVE THE TOP
10/01/09 09:50:54 FRUIT ALONE.
10/01/09 09:50:55 THE QUESTION IS NOT FOR YOU,
10/01/09 09:50:57 IT'S FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING UNDER
10/01/09 09:50:57 UMBRELLA.
10/01/09 09:50:59 IN OTHER WORDS, YOU MAY SEE A
10/01/09 09:51:02 SIGN IN WEST TAMPA OR EAST
10/01/09 09:51:03 TAMPA, DREW PARK OR SUDDENLY
10/01/09 09:51:05 OFFICER SPRINGS THAT GETS A
10/01/09 09:51:05 TICKET.
10/01/09 09:51:07 YOU COME DOWNTOWN AND SEE A
10/01/09 09:51:10 BUILDING WITH THE SAME SIGN, BUT
10/01/09 09:51:13 20 TIMES LARGER, NEVER GETS
10/01/09 09:51:13 SITED.
10/01/09 09:51:16 AND MY
10/01/09 09:51:19 QUESTION IS,
10/01/09 09:51:19 WHY?
10/01/09 09:51:22 I'M JUST TALKING TO THE
10/01/09 09:51:22 BOARD.
10/01/09 09:51:25 BECAUSE I DON'T WANT YOU TO GET
10/01/09 09:51:25 INVOLVED.
10/01/09 09:51:28 YOU'RE THE ULTIMATE
10/01/09 09:51:30 DETERMINE
10/01/09 09:51:32 NATE
10/01/09 09:51:34 DETERMINANTOR AT THE END.
10/01/09 09:51:37 I DON'T WANT YOU TO PLAY
10/01/09 09:51:38 TWO
10/01/09 09:51:38 ROLES.
10/01/09 09:51:40 >> ANYONE WISHING TO COME
10/01/09 09:51:42 FORWARD AT THIS TIME CAN ADDRESS
10/01/09 09:51:42 THE BOARD.
10/01/09 09:51:44 >> THE DANGER IN THE PUBLIC
10/01/09 09:51:45 BOARD LIKE THIS ISN'T FAIR.
10/01/09 09:51:47 I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT I DEAL
10/01/09 09:51:49 ON A DAILY BASIS WITH CODE
10/01/09 09:51:50 ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO ARE
10/01/09 09:51:53 BOTH FAIR AND MANY WHO ARE NOT
10/01/09 09:51:53 FAIR.
10/01/09 09:51:56 AND WHAT YOU'RE GIVING TO
10/01/09 09:51:59 CONSIDER TO ENACT IS A BLANKET
10/01/09 09:52:01 CITATION PROCESS THAT SAYS
10/01/09 09:52:02 "OKAY, IF I DIDN'T THINK OF WHAT
10/01/09 09:52:04 THE CORRECT CODE WAS, I'M GOING
10/01/09 09:52:07 TO THROW EVERYTHING IN
10/01/09 09:52:08 ELSE IN
10/01/09 09:52:09 THE
10/01/09 09:52:11 BARREL AND ALLOW YOU TO CITE FOR
10/01/09 09:52:14 WHATEVER I
10/01/09 09:52:15 THINK OF."
10/01/09 09:52:19 LET ME GIVE YOU AN
10/01/09 09:52:19 EXAMPLE.
10/01/09 09:52:21 LANDSCAPE PLANTERS IN THE
10/01/09 09:52:22 DRIVEWAY, THAT'S A VIOLATION.
10/01/09 09:52:25 THE STONES THAT PEOPLE PUT ON
10/01/09 09:52:26 THEIR DRIVEWAY TO KEEP PEOPLE
10/01/09 09:52:28 FROM HITTING THEIR MAILBOX,
10/01/09 09:52:29 THOSE ARE VIOLATIONS.
10/01/09 09:52:30 AND YOU'RE SUBJECTING EVERY ONE
10/01/09 09:52:33 OF THEM TO AN INSTANT
10/01/09 09:52:34 CITATION
10/01/09 09:52:34 PROCESS.
10/01/09 09:52:37 IF YOU DECIDE TO PUT A
10/01/09 09:52:39 CURB OUT.
10/01/09 09:52:39 HAVE INSIGHTS LANDSCAPED
10/01/09 09:52:42 PLANTERS THAT HAVE THE FOUR BY
10/01/09 09:52:43 FOUR PLANTER CURBS THAT YOU PUT
10/01/09 09:52:45 OUT AND EVERYONE'S GOT THEM,
10/01/09 09:52:46 IT'S A VIOLATION.
10/01/09 09:52:47 IF YOU DECIDE, ALL OF A SUDDEN
10/01/09 09:52:49 THAT YOU'RE GOING TO EMPOWER
10/01/09 09:52:51 THEM TO DO THIS, YOU HAVE TO
10/01/09 09:52:53 CONSIDER THAT THE POLICE
10/01/09 09:52:55 OFFICERS DON'T EVEN HAVE THIS
10/01/09 09:52:57 MUCH POWER AND THEY GO SCHOOL
10/01/09 09:52:59 FOR NINE MONTHS TO BE TRAINED TO
10/01/09 09:53:01 UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CODES ARE
10/01/09 09:53:04 AND WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT
10/01/09 09:53:05 ISSUE CITATIONS FOR.
10/01/09 09:53:08 THIS IS A BROAD-REACHING,
10/01/09 09:53:11 ORDINANCE
10/01/09 09:53:12 THAT YOU'RE
10/01/09 09:53:12 CONSIDERING.
10/01/09 09:53:14 IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDERING
10/01/09 09:53:16 SOMETHING REGARDING HEALTH,
10/01/09 09:53:17 SAFETY AND WELFARE, IF IT'S A
10/01/09 09:53:19 DANGER TO THE PUBLIC, YOU
10/01/09 09:53:20 ALREADY HAVE THAT POWER.
10/01/09 09:53:23 THE POLICE HAVE THAT POWER
10/01/09 09:53:24 ALREADY.
10/01/09 09:53:25 DO YOU WANT THE RANK AND FILE
10/01/09 09:53:28 CITY EMPLOYEES TO GO OUT ISSUING
10/01/09 09:53:29 CITATIONS LIKE THIS?
10/01/09 09:53:31 I DON'T THINK YOU REALLY DO.
10/01/09 09:53:33 AND CERTAINLY IN TERMS OF
10/01/09 09:53:35 SUBSTITUTING AN ORDINANCE, I
10/01/09 09:53:37 KNOW THAT THE CITY ATTORNEYS
10/01/09 09:53:40 OFFICE HAS SAID THEY'VE MET WITH
10/01/09 09:53:40 VAN.
10/01/09 09:53:43 THE LAST TIME YOU CONSIDER THE
10/01/09 09:53:45 CITATION PROCESS YOU MET WITH A
10/01/09 09:53:47 GROUP OF OTHER CITIZENS WHO WERE
10/01/09 09:53:48 PROPERTY OWNERS, IT WAS OPEN TO
10/01/09 09:53:49 THEM.
10/01/09 09:53:50 THERE WERE PRIVATE
10/01/09 09:53:52 MEETINGS TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND
10/01/09 09:53:54 WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED.
10/01/09 09:53:55 NONE OF THAT'S HAPPENED.
10/01/09 09:53:57 WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDED WITH A
10/01/09 09:53:59 COPY OF THE SUBSTITUTE
10/01/09 09:53:59 ORDINANCE.
10/01/09 09:54:01 I'D ARGUE TO CONTINUE THIS.
10/01/09 09:54:02 THERE IS NO URGENCY IN THIS, BUT
10/01/09 09:54:05 WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS OPENING
10/01/09 09:54:07 PANDORA'S BOX AND ANY TIME THAT
10/01/09 09:54:10 YOU ISSUE A CITATION AND IT SAYS
10/01/09 09:54:13 HERE, FOR ANY VIOLATION I CAN
10/01/09 09:54:14 THINK OF.
10/01/09 09:54:15 AND I CAN GIVE YOU A COUPLE
10/01/09 09:54:17 EXAMPLES, WE HAD SOME PEOPLE
10/01/09 09:54:19 THAT CONVERTED A SWIMMING POOL
10/01/09 09:54:20 TO A FISH POND.
10/01/09 09:54:22 AND THE INSPECTOR WENT OUT AND
10/01/09 09:54:23 ISSUED A CITATION.
10/01/09 09:54:26 I SAID "WHAT'S THAT CITATION
10/01/09 09:54:26 FOR?"
10/01/09 09:54:27 WELL, I'M NOT REALLY
10/01/09 09:54:30 SURE, BUT WE'RE
10/01/09 09:54:33 GOING TO CITE
10/01/09 09:54:33 YOU ANYWAY.
10/01/09 09:54:35 IT TOOK SIX MONTHS TO STRAIGHTEN
10/01/09 09:54:36 IT OUT AND THERE WAS NO
10/01/09 09:54:37 VIOLATION.
10/01/09 09:54:38 FIRST IT WAS A BUILDING CODE
10/01/09 09:54:39 VIOLATION, THEN A NUISANCE
10/01/09 09:54:41 VIOLATION AND THEN SOME OTHER
10/01/09 09:54:44 VIOLATION AND ONLY THEN, AFTER
10/01/09 09:54:46 AN INSPECTION, A PERSONAL
10/01/09 09:54:47 INSPECTION BY THE MANAGER AND
10/01/09 09:54:49 CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DID THEY
10/01/09 09:54:49 RELEASE IT.
10/01/09 09:54:50 YOU SAW IT IN THE NEWSPAPER.
10/01/09 09:54:52 THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS
10/01/09 09:54:55 THAT YOU ARE NOW
10/01/09 09:54:55 MAKING INSTANT
10/01/09 09:54:56 CITATIONS ELIGIBLE FOR AND I
10/01/09 09:54:59 URGE YOU
10/01/09 09:55:02 NOT TO DO IT.
10/01/09 09:55:05 >>
10/01/09 09:55:08 GOOD
10/01/09 09:55:09 MORNING, COUNCIL.
10/01/09 09:55:10 I'M ALFORD JOHNSON.
10/01/09 09:55:12 I CAME BEFORE YOU, I GUESS IT
10/01/09 09:55:13 WAS A LITTLE OVER THREE MONTHS
10/01/09 09:55:16 AGO AND ASKED FOR
10/01/09 09:55:19 AN UH,
10/01/09 09:55:20 90-DAY
10/01/09 09:55:22 CONTINUANCE SO FAN WOULD BE ABLE
10/01/09 09:55:24 TO DIG INTO THIS THING AND
10/01/09 09:55:26 FIGURE OUT MORE ABOUT IT.
10/01/09 09:55:28 SINCE THAT TIME, FAN HAD A
10/01/09 09:55:29 WORKSHOP ON IT.
10/01/09 09:55:32 WE HAD TWO UH, THREE ZONING
10/01/09 09:55:33 COMMITTEE MEETINGS ON THIS AND
10/01/09 09:55:35 THEN AT THE LAST MEETING, WE
10/01/09 09:55:38 PRESENTED TO THE FAN
10/01/09 09:55:40 MEMBERS AND
10/01/09 09:55:42 SO, I, AT THAT MEETING, WHILE
10/01/09 09:55:44 THERE WERE A FEW PEOPLE WHO SAID
10/01/09 09:55:47 "WHY DON'T WE GIVE
10/01/09 09:55:50 THIS
10/01/09 09:55:50 MORE
10/01/09 09:55:51 TIME?"
10/01/09 09:55:51 THE MAJORITY OF THE
10/01/09 09:55:54 MEMBERS SAID THE MUNICIPAL CODES
10/01/09 09:55:55 NEED TO BE ENFORCED.
10/01/09 09:55:57 WE, AS A GROUP, HAVE ALWAYS SAID
10/01/09 09:55:59 THAT YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM WITH
10/01/09 09:56:01 CODE ENFORCEMENT IS THERE'S NO
10/01/09 09:56:03 TEETH IN IT.
10/01/09 09:56:04 IF ANYTHING COMES TOWARD CODE
10/01/09 09:56:05 ENFORCEMENT, MANY OF THESE
10/01/09 09:56:07 ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP
10/01/09 09:56:08 AND EVERYTHING ELSE ARE THINGS
10/01/09 09:56:10 THAT WOULD GO TO THE CODE
10/01/09 09:56:12 ENFORCEMENT BOARD ANYWAY, NOT
10/01/09 09:56:14 SUBJECT TO THE CIVIL CITATION.
10/01/09 09:56:17 THE CIVIL CITATION AS WE
10/01/09 09:56:18 UNDERSTAND IT IS DESIGNED FOR
10/01/09 09:56:20 THOSE, THE CODE VIOLATIONS THAT
10/01/09 09:56:23 CAN BE CORRECTED IN A VERY SHORT
10/01/09 09:56:24 PERIOD OF TIME.
10/01/09 09:56:25 LIKE UP TO 21 DAYS.
10/01/09 09:56:27 IF IT CAN, THEY WOULD BE PUT ON
10/01/09 09:56:29 NOTICE AND IF THEY DON'T CORRECT
10/01/09 09:56:32 IT, THEY ARE GIVEN A CIVIL
10/01/09 09:56:32 CITATION.
10/01/09 09:56:35 THOSE ARE FOR THINGS THAT CAN BE
10/01/09 09:56:35 CORRECT.
10/01/09 09:56:36 IF IT CAN'T BE CORRECTED BECAUSE
10/01/09 09:56:38 IT NEEDS A PERMIT OR THEY NEED
10/01/09 09:56:40 TO GET BIDS ON IT TO HAVE
10/01/09 09:56:41 SOMETHING DONE, ET CETERA, THEN
10/01/09 09:56:43 THOSE WOULD NORMALLY GO TO THE
10/01/09 09:56:47 CODE
10/01/09 09:56:47 ENFORCEMENT BOARD ANYWAY.
10/01/09 09:56:50 THEY WOULDN'T BE SUBJECT TO THE
10/01/09 09:56:51 CIVIL CITATION PROCESS AS WE
10/01/09 09:56:52 UNDERSTAND IT.
10/01/09 09:56:55 I'D LIKE TO THANK MR. MUELLER,
10/01/09 09:56:58 JAKE
10/01/09 09:57:01 SLATER AND SUSAN
10/01/09 09:57:02 WINRYSPSHGS WINRY FOR
10/01/09 09:57:04 ATTENDING OUR WORKSHOP IN JULY.
10/01/09 09:57:06 IT WAS ON A SATURDAY.
10/01/09 09:57:07 MUELLER WAS ON VACATION, BUT HE
10/01/09 09:57:09 STILL CAME IN FOR IT.
10/01/09 09:57:10 WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.
10/01/09 09:57:12 WE WOULD URGE YOU DO GO AHEAD
10/01/09 09:57:14 AND PROCEED WITH THIS PROCESS,
10/01/09 09:57:17 IT'S UH, THERE MIGHT BE, AS I
10/01/09 09:57:20 SENT EVERYONE AN E-MAIL
10/01/09 09:57:21 OUTLINING SOME INDIVIDUAL CODES
10/01/09 09:57:23 THAT WE FEEL SHOULD BE LOOKED AT
10/01/09 09:57:26 TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY
10/01/09 09:57:26 ARE
10/01/09 09:57:27 PROPER, NOT NECESSARILY WHETHER
10/01/09 09:57:29 THEY SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE
10/01/09 09:57:30 CIVIL CITATION PROCESS OR NOT,
10/01/09 09:57:32 BUT WHETHER OR NOT THOSE CODES
10/01/09 09:57:34 SHOULD BE REVIEWED BY THE
10/01/09 09:57:37 DEPARTMENT HEADS, ET CETERA, FOR
10/01/09 09:57:39 CLARIFICATION AS MUCH AS
10/01/09 09:57:39 ANYTHING ELSE.
10/01/09 09:57:41 WE'D URGE THAT YOU DO THAT.
10/01/09 09:57:41 IF
10/01/09 09:57:44 WE, UH, AND FROM
10/01/09 09:57:45 THE STANDPOINT
10/01/09 09:57:46 OF PROPERTY OWNERS, ET CETERA,
10/01/09 09:57:49 WITHIN FAN, YES WE DO HAVE
10/01/09 09:57:50 LOTS
10/01/09 09:57:51 OF PROPERTY OWNERS.
10/01/09 09:57:52 MULTIPLE PROPERTY OWNERS.
10/01/09 09:57:54 I THINK WE HAD A GOOD INPUT.
10/01/09 09:57:55 WE HAD GOOD MEETINGS AND THE
10/01/09 09:57:57 MAJORITY OF OUR MEMBERS SAID,
10/01/09 09:57:59 HEY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PROCEED
10/01/09 09:57:59 WITH THIS.
10/01/09 09:58:01 IF WE DETECT ANY OF OUR MEMBERS
10/01/09 09:58:04 DETECT THERE ARE ANY, ANY ABUSES
10/01/09 09:58:07 OF THIS PROCESS, THEN WE WILL
10/01/09 09:58:08 TAKE IT TO THE DEPARTMENT HEAD
10/01/09 09:58:10 AND IF IT'S NOT RESOLVED THERE,
10/01/09 09:58:13 THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU
10/01/09 09:58:14 FOR RECONSIDERATION.
10/01/09 09:58:16 SO THAT'S OUR POSITION AND WE
10/01/09 09:58:18 HOPE YOU WILL PROCEED WITH THIS.
10/01/09 09:58:18 THANK YOU.
10/01/09 09:58:20 >> MY QUESTION IS TO LEGAL
10/01/09 09:58:23 AGAIN, THANK YOU MR.
10/01/09 09:58:24 JOHNSON.
10/01/09 09:58:27 MY QUESTION IS IS THAT
10/01/09 09:58:29 ACCURATE
10/01/09 09:58:31 WHAT THERE COLEVIA SAID, THE
10/01/09 09:58:34 PLANTERS WOULD BE IN VIOLATION.
10/01/09 09:58:37 I'M ASSUMING CITY PLANTERS.
10/01/09 09:58:40 AND PEOPLE WHO PUT UP BARRIERS
10/01/09 09:58:43 BY THEIR DRIVEWAYS WOULD BE
10/01/09 09:58:44 CITED TOO?
10/01/09 09:58:45 IS THAT TRUE?
10/01/09 09:58:47 >> LET ME ANSWER THAT ISSUE BY
10/01/09 09:58:49 SAYING FIRST OF ALL, EXCUSE ME
10/01/09 09:58:52 UM, THE UM, THE CONCEPT
10/01/09 09:58:55 THAT MR.
10/01/09 09:58:57 MCLEANIE INDICATED AS AN INSTANT
10/01/09 09:58:59 VIOLATION OR INSTANT FINE UM,
10/01/09 09:59:01 THAT'S NOT HOW THE PROCESS
10/01/09 09:59:02 WORKS.
10/01/09 09:59:03 THERE'S A CITATION, WHICH REALLY
10/01/09 09:59:04 IS LIKE A WARNING THAT'S ISSUED
10/01/09 09:59:08 AND THEN THERE'S 21 DAYS
10/01/09 09:59:08 TO
10/01/09 09:59:09 CORRECT THAT.
10/01/09 09:59:11 IF THE THINGS IN THE
10/01/09 09:59:14 RIGHT-OF-WAY CREATE AN OBSTACLE
10/01/09 09:59:15 TO TRAFFIC SAFETY, OTHER TYPES
10/01/09 09:59:17 OF THINGS, THEY CAN BE.
10/01/09 09:59:20 AND THE CITY CAN HAVE LIABILITY
10/01/09 09:59:23 IF, IN FACT,
10/01/09 09:59:25 BECAUSE OF A CITED
10/01/09 09:59:28 PROBLEM OR OBSTRUCTION IN THE
10/01/09 09:59:31 RIGHT-OF-WAY SOMEONE HAS GOTTEN
10/01/09 09:59:31 INJURED.
10/01/09 09:59:32 I CAN'T SAY NO, THEY'RE NOT
10/01/09 09:59:35 GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO CITATION,
10/01/09 09:59:36 BUT I CAN SAY THERE'D BE SOME
10/01/09 09:59:38 KIND OF ISSUE WITH THEM.
10/01/09 09:59:40 AND THEN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN,
10/01/09 09:59:42 FORKS WOULD HAVE 21 DAYS TO MOVE
10/01/09 09:59:45 THEM BACK OUT OF THE
10/01/09 09:59:45 RIGHT-OF-WAY OR OTHERWISE
10/01/09 09:59:48 RESOLVE THAT IF IN FACT THEY
10/01/09 09:59:50 WERE A PROBLEM.
10/01/09 09:59:52 WHAT REALLY, PART OF WHAT THIS
10/01/09 09:59:55 IS DESIGNED TO ADDRESS
10/01/09 09:59:57 IS WHEN
10/01/09 09:59:59 THE TECO FRANCHISE AGREEMENT
10/01/09 10:00:00 CAME TO YOU ALL, THERE WERE LOTS
10/01/09 10:00:03 OF
10/01/09 10:00:05 THINGS THAT WERE ABANDONED.
10/01/09 10:00:07 HOLES ON THE SIDE OF THE
10/01/09 10:00:10 RAILROAD, EQUIPMENT AND OTHER
10/01/09 10:00:10 THINGS.
10/01/09 10:00:12 OTHER THAN GOING IN AND FIXING
10/01/09 10:00:13 THE PROBLEM DIRECTLY BY THE
10/01/09 10:00:16 CITY, THERE'S NO OTHER CLEAR
10/01/09 10:00:16 ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM.
10/01/09 10:00:18 RATHER THAN THE CITY GOING IN
10/01/09 10:00:19 AND MOVING THINGS THAT BELONG TO
10/01/09 10:00:21 OTHER FOLKS, WE THINK THE BETTER
10/01/09 10:00:23 WAY TO HANDLE IT IS THROUGH A
10/01/09 10:00:24 WARNING OF THIS NATURE AND THE
10/01/09 10:00:27 ABILITY TO HAVE THE PROPERTY
10/01/09 10:00:29 OWNER CORRECT THAT PROBLEM.
10/01/09 10:00:31 OTHERWISE, WE'D HAVE TO GO IN
10/01/09 10:00:34 UNDER THE CURRENT CODE AND USE,
10/01/09 10:00:34 ESSENTIALLY SELF-HELP WHICH
10/01/09 10:00:37 CREATES QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT
10/01/09 10:00:38 PROBLEMS, INCLUDING, POTENTIALLY
10/01/09 10:00:39 DAMAGING SOMEBODY ELSE'S
10/01/09 10:00:40 PROPERTY THAT IS, THAT IS
10/01/09 10:00:42 ENCROACHING ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10/01/09 10:00:44 WHICH IS, IN MY VIEW, NOT THE
10/01/09 10:00:47 APPROPRIATE THING TO
10/01/09 10:00:48 BE DOING.
10/01/09 10:00:50 >> DID YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION
10/01/09 10:00:53 ABOUT THE PLANTERS IN
10/01/09 10:00:54 THE
10/01/09 10:00:54 RIGHT-OF-WAY?
10/01/09 10:00:55 THE CITY?
10/01/09 10:00:57 >> THERE SHOULDN'T BE CITY
10/01/09 10:00:59 PLANTERS IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY
10/01/09 10:01:00 THAT VIOLATE THE CODE.
10/01/09 10:01:02 THESE WOULD BE PLANTERS THAT
10/01/09 10:01:05 CITIZENS HAVE PLACED IN THE
10/01/09 10:01:05 RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10/01/09 10:01:06 I'M ASSUMING HE'S TALKING ABOUT
10/01/09 10:01:08 PRIVATE CITIZENS IN THE
10/01/09 10:01:08 RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10/01/09 10:01:10 THAT WOULD BE AGAIN, IF IT
10/01/09 10:01:13 CREATED A SITE ONE PROBLEM,
10/01/09 10:01:15 SAFETY PROBLEM, OBSTRUCTION
10/01/09 10:01:17 PROBLEM, THE WARNING WOULD BE
10/01/09 10:01:18 PROVIDED AND THE OWNER WOULD
10/01/09 10:01:20 MOVE THAT OUT OF THE
10/01/09 10:01:20 RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10/01/09 10:01:23 >> I INTERPRETED HIS COMMENTS TO
10/01/09 10:01:24 SAY THE BIG PLANTERS.
10/01/09 10:01:27 AM I INTERPRETING THAT RIGHT MR.
10/01/09 10:01:27 MCLEANIE?
10/01/09 10:01:30 >> FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T
10/01/09 10:01:30 THINK
10/01/09 10:01:32 THE CITY ALWAYS COMPLIES WITH
10/01/09 10:01:33 ITS OWN RULES--
10/01/09 10:01:36 >> THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO
10/01/09 10:01:36 GET
10/01/09 10:01:37 AT.
10/01/09 10:01:38 >> I WAS TALKING ABOUT THOUSANDS
10/01/09 10:01:40 OF THESE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
10/01/09 10:01:42 THEY'RE ON BEACH PARK, THERE'S
10/01/09 10:01:44 HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF THEM
10/01/09 10:01:47 WHERE PEOPLE PUT BOULDERS TO
10/01/09 10:01:48 STOP PEOPLE FROM DRIVING ACROSS
10/01/09 10:01:50 THE EDGE OF THEIR LAWN.
10/01/09 10:01:51 THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
10/01/09 10:01:54 IF YOU HAVE AN INSPECTOR THAT
10/01/09 10:01:56 WANTS TO ISSUE A CITATION FOR
10/01/09 10:01:56 THAT.
10/01/09 10:01:58 EVEN IF THEY HAVE 21 DAYS TO
10/01/09 10:02:01 CURE IT, IF
10/01/09 10:02:03 THEY MOVE IT, THEN
10/01/09 10:02:04 THEIR PROPERTY'S SUBJECT TO
10/01/09 10:02:06 BEING DAMAGED BY SOMEBODY ELSE.
10/01/09 10:02:08 THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
10/01/09 10:02:10 THE CITY DOESN'T USUALLY FOLLOW
10/01/09 10:02:12 --I SHOULDN'T SAY USUALLY, THE
10/01/09 10:02:14 CITY DOESN'T ALWAYS FOLLOW ITS
10/01/09 10:02:15 OWN RULES.
10/01/09 10:02:16 >> WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC
10/01/09 10:02:18 THAT THEY'RE EAGER TO, YOU CAN
10/01/09 10:02:19 SIT DOWN MR. MCLEANIE.
10/01/09 10:02:21 I'M TALKING TO--
10/01/09 10:02:23 >> THAT'S FINE, I WAS JUST GOING
10/01/09 10:02:25 TO TELL YOU MR. JOHNSON SAID
10/01/09 10:02:27 THERE'S NO TEETH IN THE CODE
10/01/09 10:02:28 ENFORCEMENT, THEY SHOULD SIT IN
10/01/09 10:02:30 ON THE BOARD MEETINGS AND NOT
10/01/09 10:02:32 COME OUT SAYING THERE'S NO TEETH
10/01/09 10:02:34 IN THESE MEETINGS.
10/01/09 10:02:34 IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT--
10/01/09 10:02:37 >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
10/01/09 10:02:38 YES.
10/01/09 10:02:40 >> THANK YOU, WE HAVE HEARD FROM
10/01/09 10:02:42 THE PUBLIC FOR AGES THAT THEY
10/01/09 10:02:44 WANT CODE ENFORCEMENT TO BE
10/01/09 10:02:44 EFFECTIVE.
10/01/09 10:02:46 AND MR. JOHNSON, WHO'S THE
10/01/09 10:02:48 PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW, OF FAN,
10/01/09 10:02:50 CAME BEFORE US AND SAID THAT
10/01/09 10:02:51 ERNIE AND THE OTHER STAFF
10/01/09 10:02:53 MEMBERS HAVE MET WITH THEM AND
10/01/09 10:02:53 EXPLAINED THIS.
10/01/09 10:02:57 I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE SO MANY
10/01/09 10:03:03 SUBSTANTIVE ISSUE, THE
10/01/09 10:03:05 INSPECTORS HAVE MORE TO DO THAN
10/01/09 10:03:08 TO CITE PEOPLE FOR THINGS THAT
10/01/09 10:03:10 ARE MARGINAL AND NOT REALLY
10/01/09 10:03:10 SUBSTANTIVE.
10/01/09 10:03:12 BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND
10/01/09 10:03:13 DISCUSSION THAT'S GONE INTO
10/01/09 10:03:15 THIS, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE
10/01/09 10:03:17 ADOPT IT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING
10/01/09 10:03:19 THAT FAN WILL BE BACK TO US IF
10/01/09 10:03:21 THERE ARE PROBLEMS IN THE
10/01/09 10:03:24 CITATION PROCESS AND ALSO THAT
10/01/09 10:03:27 MR. SLATER WILL, WILL REINFORCE
10/01/09 10:03:28 TO HIS INSPECTORS THAT THEY'RE
10/01/09 10:03:30 NOT TO FOCUS ON THINGS THAT ARE
10/01/09 10:03:32 NOT SUBSTANTIVE AND PETTY, BUT
10/01/09 10:03:35 ONLY ON THINGS THAT REALLY
10/01/09 10:03:35 ARE
10/01/09 10:03:36 IMPORTANT CODE ENFORCEMENT
10/01/09 10:03:39 ISSUES IN OUR COMMUNITY OF
10/01/09 10:03:40 WHICH
10/01/09 10:03:43 THERE ARE
10/01/09 10:03:44 MANY.
10/01/09 10:03:46 >> THAT LEAVES SUBJECTIVITY WITH
10/01/09 10:03:46 THAT.
10/01/09 10:03:48 WHAT MIGHT BE PETTY TO SOMEBODY
10/01/09 10:03:51 ELSE, MIGHT NOT BE PETTY TO ME.
10/01/09 10:03:54 >> I DID JUST HEAR PART OF THAT,
10/01/09 10:03:57 THAT DIRECTION THAT I DID WANT
10/01/09 10:03:58 TO RESPOND TO.
10/01/09 10:04:01 TO MAKE THINGS
10/01/09 10:04:01 CLEAR.
10/01/09 10:04:03 THE RIGHT-OF-WAY UH, CITATIONS
10/01/09 10:04:06 WILL NOT BE ISSUED BY THE
10/01/09 10:04:07 CODE
10/01/09 10:04:09 OF ENFORCEMENT STAFF, BUT BY THE
10/01/09 10:04:11 RIGHT-OF-WAY STAFF WHICH WE ONLY
10/01/09 10:04:13 HAVE A HANDFUL OF THESE ANYWAY.
10/01/09 10:04:15 THE IDEA THAT A LOT OF THESE
10/01/09 10:04:17 WILL BE ISSUED, I DON'T THINK IS
10/01/09 10:04:17 ACCURATE.
10/01/09 10:04:19 IF THERE IS AN ABUSE, IT'D BE
10/01/09 10:04:21 SOMETHING WE'D WANT TO KNOW
10/01/09 10:04:21 ABOUT.
10/01/09 10:04:23 >> CHIP, DON'T GO FAR.
10/01/09 10:04:25 LET'S, LET'S FOCUS IN ON WHAT
10/01/09 10:04:28 WE'RE
10/01/09 10:04:29 TALKING ABOUT HERE.
10/01/09 10:04:30 THE TRANSPORTATION RULES ABOUT
10/01/09 10:04:32 THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ARE ALREADY IN
10/01/09 10:04:32 PLACE.
10/01/09 10:04:34 THEY'RE IN PLACE IN OUR
10/01/09 10:04:35 ORDINANCES AND THEY'RE IN PLACE
10/01/09 10:04:37 IN OUR TECHNICAL GUIDELINES,
10/01/09 10:04:40 WHICH I UNDERSTAND WE'LL BE
10/01/09 10:04:40 AMENDING SOON.
10/01/09 10:04:41 REGARDLESS, WE'RE NOT CHANGING
10/01/09 10:04:43 THE RULES ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN AND
10/01/09 10:04:46 CAN'T DO IN THE
10/01/09 10:04:46 RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10/01/09 10:04:47 THE ONLY THING WE'RE FOCUSING ON
10/01/09 10:04:50 IS HOW WE MAY OR MAY NOT ENFORCE
10/01/09 10:04:51 IT.
10/01/09 10:04:52 RIGHT NOW, MY GUESS WOULD BE
10/01/09 10:04:55 THAT YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE DIDN'T
10/01/09 10:04:57 DO THE CIVIL CITATION
10/01/09 10:04:58 ENFORCEMENT, WE'D BE DOING SOME
10/01/09 10:05:00 OTHER FORM OF ENFORCEMENT
10/01/09 10:05:03 POTENTIALLY ANYWAY, SO ANYWAY, I
10/01/09 10:05:04 JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
10/01/09 10:05:06 CHIP, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
10/01/09 10:05:08 >> NO YOU'RE CORRECT.
10/01/09 10:05:09 AND ACTUALLY WHAT THE CODE
10/01/09 10:05:12 CURRENTLY SAYS AND IT
10/01/09 10:05:13 DATES BACK
10/01/09 10:05:16 DECADES IS WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO
10/01/09 10:05:17 GO OTHER ROUTES.
10/01/09 10:05:19 THE CODE SUGGESTS WE FIX IT
10/01/09 10:05:20 OURSELVES.
10/01/09 10:05:21 WHEN SOMEBODY HAS CONSTRUCTED A
10/01/09 10:05:23 DRIVEWAY IMPROPERLY OR SOMETHING
10/01/09 10:05:24 ELSE IS ABANDONED IN THE
10/01/09 10:05:25 RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT HAS VALUE, OUR
10/01/09 10:05:28 PREFERENCE IS TO GET THE
10/01/09 10:05:29 OTHER
10/01/09 10:05:31 PARTY INVOLVED, ENGAGED IN HOW
10/01/09 10:05:33 TO FIX THAT PROBLEM, RATHER THAN
10/01/09 10:05:34 FIXING IT OURSELVES.
10/01/09 10:05:35 THAT'S WHAT WE HOPE THIS WOULD
10/01/09 10:05:37 ALLOW US TO DO.
10/01/09 10:05:38 >> THANK YOU.
10/01/09 10:05:41 >> CHAIRMAN, MR. DINGFELDER,
10/01/09 10:05:41 THE
10/01/09 10:05:44 CODE AND SO FORTH, I AGREE WITH
10/01/09 10:05:46 THAT.
10/01/09 10:05:47 THE PROBLEM HERE IS IF THAT'S
10/01/09 10:05:49 ALL THAT'S IN THE TRANSPORTATION
10/01/09 10:05:51 CODE IS ENFORCED, WE'D HAVE A
10/01/09 10:05:54 40% UNEMPLOYMENT IN THIS
10/01/09 10:05:55 CITY.
10/01/09 10:05:56 AROUND CERTAIN HOSPITALS OR ALL
10/01/09 10:05:57 OVER THE PLACE.
10/01/09 10:05:59 I'M NOT GOING TO CLOSE DOWN ALL
10/01/09 10:06:00 THESE DOCTORS OFFICES WHERE SICK
10/01/09 10:06:02 PEOPLE GO TO GET TREATMENT.
10/01/09 10:06:02 I CAN'T DO THAT.
10/01/09 10:06:05 I CAN TELL YOU IN CLINICS,
10/01/09 10:06:07 SOMETIMES THEY'RE ALL PARKED IN
10/01/09 10:06:07 THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10/01/09 10:06:09 AM I GOING TO CLOSE THE CLINIC
10/01/09 10:06:12 BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S PARKING
10/01/09 10:06:15 IN
10/01/09 10:06:15 THE RIGHT-OF-WAY?
10/01/09 10:06:18 THERE
10/01/09 10:06:21 ARE CERTAIN
10/01/09 10:06:23 BIG CHAIN
10/01/09 10:06:23 RESTAURANTS.
10/01/09 10:06:26 THEY DON'T GET
10/01/09 10:06:27 A CITATION.
10/01/09 10:06:28 I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS NOW
10/01/09 10:06:29 FOR A YEAR.
10/01/09 10:06:31 I'M THE ONE, FOR WHATEVER
10/01/09 10:06:34 REASON, I GUESS, GETS A LOT OF
10/01/09 10:06:35 CALLS ON THESE THINGS.
10/01/09 10:06:38 DISTRICT 6 IS POPULAR FOR
10/01/09 10:06:39 RIGHT-OF-WAY VIOLATIONS I GUESS.
10/01/09 10:06:40 THERE'S A CERTAIN HAMBURGER
10/01/09 10:06:43 PLACE THAT HAS A SIGN ON THE
10/01/09 10:06:44 PARKING AREA, RIGHT-OF-WAY, NO
10/01/09 10:06:46 PARKING ON CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10/01/09 10:06:49 GUESS WHAT KIND OF SIGN IS ON
10/01/09 10:06:51 THE SAME POLE?
10/01/09 10:06:52 PARKING FOR SO-AND-SO ONLY.
10/01/09 10:06:54 I MEAN, I'VE GOT THIS.
10/01/09 10:06:56 I'M TELLING MYSELF, WHICH IS IT?
10/01/09 10:06:58 YOU DON'T PARK HERE OR DO YOU
10/01/09 10:06:59 PARK HERE?
10/01/09 10:07:01 SO IT'S GOTTA BE TO COME TO SOME
10/01/09 10:07:02 CONCLUSION.
10/01/09 10:07:04 I DON'T WANT TO CREATION CHAOS.
10/01/09 10:07:07 I DON'T WANT
10/01/09 10:07:08 TO CREATE WORK.
10/01/09 10:07:10 SOMETIMES SOMEBODY CAN GIVE
10/01/09 10:07:13 THESE VIOLATIONS AND THAT DAY HE
10/01/09 10:07:14 OR SHE ISN'T FEELING WELL.
10/01/09 10:07:16 THEY GO OUT AND GIVE 2,000
10/01/09 10:07:18 TICKETS OUT, IT COULD HAPPEN.
10/01/09 10:07:21 TODAY IT COULD HAPPEN.
10/01/09 10:07:22 SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, WE HAVE
10/01/09 10:07:25 TO TAKE A SENSIBLE APPROACH.
10/01/09 10:07:27 THERE'S VIOLATIONS ALL OVER.
10/01/09 10:07:29 TODAY THERE'S, I GUARANTEE YOU,
10/01/09 10:07:30 THERE'S 100 VIOLATIONS RIGHT NOW
10/01/09 10:07:32 THAT I COULD SHOW YOU, IF YOU
10/01/09 10:07:35 TAKE AN HOUR WITH ME
10/01/09 10:07:36 IN THE
10/01/09 10:07:37 AUTOMOBILE, WHERE, NO I COULD
10/01/09 10:07:40 SHOW YOU 1,000 VIOLATIONS OF
10/01/09 10:07:43 AUTOMOBILES PARKED
10/01/09 10:07:45 IN
10/01/09 10:07:45 RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
10/01/09 10:07:48 WHAT TOO DO I DO
10/01/09 10:07:51 WAS ALL THAT?
10/01/09 10:07:56 THAT'S INHUMANE TO ME.
10/01/09 10:08:14 THERE'S A GIVE AND TAKE IF
10/01/09 10:08:15 WE
10/01/09 10:08:17 START ENFORCING OUR OWN
10/01/09 10:08:18 ORDINANCES, THIS ROOM WOULD HAVE
10/01/09 10:08:20 TO BE FOUR TIMES AS LARGE.
10/01/09 10:08:24 THAT'S WHAT I'M
10/01/09 10:08:27 TRYING
10/01/09 10:08:27 TO BRING
10/01/09 10:08:28 OUT.
10/01/09 10:08:30 MR. CHAIRMAN, WHAT MR. MIRANDA
10/01/09 10:08:31 IS SAYING, I AGREE.
10/01/09 10:08:32 THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS, I'VE BEEN
10/01/09 10:08:34 DOWN IN THE PLOT STREET AREA.
10/01/09 10:08:35 SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS DOWN
10/01/09 10:08:37 THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERTED TO
10/01/09 10:08:39 MEDICAL, NEVER HAD A GARAGE.
10/01/09 10:08:40 NEVER HAD ANY PLACE TO PARK.
10/01/09 10:08:43 THERE'S ONE SPOT
10/01/09 10:08:44 DOWN THERE
10/01/09 10:08:46 WHERE THE SIDEWALK LEADS TO THE
10/01/09 10:08:47 INTERSTATE AND PEOPLE ARE
10/01/09 10:08:48 GETTING TICKETS THERE.
10/01/09 10:08:49 THERE'S NO NEED FOR A SIDEWALK
10/01/09 10:08:51 THERE FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A
10/01/09 10:08:53 SIDEWALK TO NOWHERE AND IT'S
10/01/09 10:08:55 HURTING THESE BUSINESSES.
10/01/09 10:08:56 AND THESE SMALL BUSINESSES.
10/01/09 10:08:58 THERE'S, I'LL COME BACK IN A
10/01/09 10:08:59 COUPLE WEEKS PROBABLY WITH 2,000
10/01/09 10:09:02 PICTURES
10/01/09 10:09:04 WITH VIOLATIONS DOWN
10/01/09 10:09:05 THERE.
10/01/09 10:09:14 >> I
10/01/09 10:09:16 FEEL LIKE OUR STAFF NEEDS
10/01/09 10:09:18 TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE CITATION
10/01/09 10:09:19 PROCESS WILL DO.
10/01/09 10:09:22 I THINK WE'VE KIND OF GOTTEN
10/01/09 10:09:22 OFF
10/01/09 10:09:23 TRACK.
10/01/09 10:09:23 >> I AGREE.
10/01/09 10:09:26 >> ONE THING NEEDS TO BE RUN,
10/01/09 10:09:29 CIVIL CITATION PROCESS GOES
10/01/09 10:09:30 TO
10/01/09 10:09:30 THE JUDGE.
10/01/09 10:09:33 DOESN'T GO IN FRONT OF
10/01/09 10:09:36 THE CODE
10/01/09 10:09:37 ENFORCEMENT BOARD.
10/01/09 10:09:39 >> IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF
10/01/09 10:09:42 ABUSE, THE JUDGE WILL FIND THAT.
10/01/09 10:09:44 THERE IS A DUE PROCESS HEARING
10/01/09 10:09:46 IN FRONT OF SOMEONE VERY
10/01/09 10:09:48 INDEPENDENT OF THE CITY.
10/01/09 10:09:49 REGARDING THAT.
10/01/09 10:09:51 A LOT OF THESE ISSUES YOU BRING
10/01/09 10:09:54 UP ARE
10/01/09 10:09:55 ZONING TYPE ISSUES, CITE
10/01/09 10:09:57 PLAN ISSUES THAT PROBABLY
10/01/09 10:09:59 WOULDN'T GO BY CIVIL CITATION,
10/01/09 10:10:02 WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY GO TO THE
10/01/09 10:10:03 CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, IT'S AN
10/01/09 10:10:06 ISSUE MORE APPROPRIATE TO
10/01/09 10:10:09 THE
10/01/09 10:10:10 CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD.
10/01/09 10:10:39 IF IT'S A LONG-TERM EXTENSIVE
10/01/09 10:10:41 ISSUE, IF PARKING IN THE
10/01/09 10:10:43 RIGHT-OF-WAY, AT A HOSPITAL OR
10/01/09 10:10:44 SOMETHING ELSE, IT'S A SITE PLAN
10/01/09 10:10:46 ISSUE THAT WON'T BE APPROPRIATE
10/01/09 10:10:49 FOR THE CIVIL CITATION
10/01/09 10:10:54 PROCESS.
10/01/09 10:10:54 >> OKAY.
10/01/09 10:10:55 >> OKAY, UM... .
10/01/09 10:10:56 >> DID EVERYBODY HEAR THE LAST
10/01/09 10:10:58 THING ABOUT THIS, THAT IT ISN'T
10/01/09 10:10:59 ABOUT HOSPITALS.
10/01/09 10:11:01 THAT'S NOT WITH THE CIVIL
10/01/09 10:11:02 CITATION.
10/01/09 10:11:04 IT'S NOT LIKE TRAFFIC TICKETS.
10/01/09 10:11:05 YOU JUST SAID THAT.
10/01/09 10:11:08 I'D LIKE TO MOVE
10/01/09 10:11:08 THIS.
10/01/09 10:11:10 >> RESOLUTION, DECLARES YOUR
10/01/09 10:11:11 PUBLIC HEARING FIRST?
10/01/09 10:11:11 >> MOVED.
10/01/09 10:11:12 >> SECOND.
10/01/09 10:11:14 >> ALL SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
10/01/09 10:11:15 >> AYE.
10/01/09 10:11:17 >> I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE
10/01/09 10:11:20 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE TO SECOND
10/01/09 10:11:23 READING
10/01/09 10:11:26 AND ADOPTION.
10/01/09 10:11:27 AMENDING SECTION 23.5-5.
10/01/09 10:11:28 SCHEDULE OF VIOLATIONS AND
10/01/09 10:11:30 PENALTIES TO ADD TAMPA CITY CODE
10/01/09 10:11:32 SECTIONS FROM CHAPTERS 19, 22,
10/01/09 10:11:34 25 AND 27 TO ALLOW ENFORCEMENT
10/01/09 10:11:37 OF THOSE SECTIONS BY THE CIVIL
10/01/09 10:11:39 CITATION PROCESS TO DESIGNATE AS
10/01/09 10:11:41 A CLASS 1 VIOLATION ANY
10/01/09 10:11:43 VIOLATION OF THE TAMPA CITY
10/01/09 10:11:44 CODE, NOT ALREADY SET FORTH IN
10/01/09 10:11:47 THE SCHEDULE OF FINES AND
10/01/09 10:11:49 PENALTIES, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL
10/01/09 10:11:52 OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
10/01/09 10:11:52 CONFLICT
10/01/09 10:11:54 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY
10/01/09 10:11:55 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10/01/09 10:11:58 >> MOVE
10/01/09 10:12:00 AND SECOND.
10/01/09 10:12:01 RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10/01/09 10:12:13 >> MOTION CARRIED
10/01/09 10:12:15 WITH CAETANO,
10/01/09 10:12:18 MELINDA
10/01/09 10:12:21 AND SCOTT
10/01/09 10:12:26 VOTING NO.
10/01/09 10:12:27 >> ITEM 79.
10/01/09 10:12:29 SECOND READING, OPEN HEARING.
10/01/09 10:12:30 >> SO MOVED.
10/01/09 10:12:33 >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY
10/01/09 10:12:34 AYE.
10/01/09 10:12:34 >> AYE.
10/01/09 10:12:35 >> OPPOSED?
10/01/09 10:12:38 >> INCOME WISH TO ADDRESS ITEM
10/01/09 10:12:38 79?
10/01/09 10:12:41 ANYONE WISH TO ADDRESS
10/01/09 10:12:44 COUNCIL
10/01/09 10:12:44 ON ITEM 79.
10/01/09 10:13:03 >>...
10/01/09 10:13:06 SUMMAN REVENUE
10/01/09 10:13:12 SUMMIT
10/01/09 10:13:18 SUPPOSE
10/01/09 10:13:21 LEMENTAL REVENUE.
10/01/09 10:13:24 RECORD
10/01/09 10:13:27 YOUR VOTE, I'M
10/01/09 10:13:31 SORRY.
10/01/09 10:13:33 >> MOTION, CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
10/01/09 10:13:36 >> MOVES 80, 81,
10/01/09 10:13:37 82...
10/01/09 10:13:37 THROUGH
10/01/09 10:13:38 85.
10/01/09 10:13:38 OKAY...
10/01/09 10:13:39 MOVED AND SECOND.
10/01/09 10:13:41 ALL IN FAVOR.
10/01/09 10:13:43 SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
10/01/09 10:13:44 OPPOSES?
10/01/09 10:13:45 GOING TO BE ADDRESSING COUNCIL,
10/01/09 10:13:46 STAND AND BE SWORN AT THIS TIME.
10/01/09 10:13:49 IF YOU'RE GOING TO
10/01/09 10:13:52 BE SPEAKING
10/01/09 10:13:55 OR ATRESSING
10/01/09 10:13:59 DDRESSING STAND.
10/01/09 10:14:01 >> DO YOU WISH TO TELL THE
10/01/09 10:14:02 TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND
10/01/09 10:14:04 NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
10/01/09 10:14:07 >> IF THERE'S ANY
10/01/09 10:14:11 EXPARTE COMMUNICATIONS, PLEASE
10/01/09 10:14:13 COMPLUD
10/01/09 10:14:14 EXCLUDE THE VOTE.
10/01/09 10:14:15 I BELIEVE THERE'S NOTHING
10/01/09 10:14:18 RECEIVED IN FILES RELATING TO
10/01/09 10:14:19 THESE HEARINGS.
10/01/09 10:14:20 ITEM 80?
10/01/09 10:14:21 ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO
10/01/09 10:14:24 ADDRESS
10/01/09 10:14:27 COUNCIL ON ITEM 80.
10/01/09 10:14:42 >> MOTION
10/01/09 10:14:43 TO CLOSE?
10/01/09 10:14:43 >> SO MOVED.
10/01/09 10:14:44 >> SECOND?
10/01/09 10:14:47 >> ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY
10/01/09 10:14:47 BF
10/01/09 10:14:48 SAYING AYE?
10/01/09 10:14:50 >> THANK YOU, I MOVE TO ADOPT
10/01/09 10:14:53 THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE UPON
10/01/09 10:14:58 SECOND READING.
10/01/09 10:14:58 ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY.
10/01/09 10:15:13 >>
10/01/09 10:15:14 SECOND.
10/01/09 10:15:17 >> MOVED AND
10/01/09 10:15:19 SECOND.
10/01/09 10:15:20 RECORD YOUR VOTE, PLEASE.
10/01/09 10:15:29 >> MOTION
10/01/09 10:15:32 CARRIED
10/01/09 10:15:35 WITH CAETANO
10/01/09 10:15:36 BEING ABSENT.
10/01/09 10:15:37 >> ITEM 81.
10/01/09 10:15:38 ITEM 81.
10/01/09 10:15:40 ANYONE WISH TO ADDRESS COUNCIL
10/01/09 10:15:40 ON ITEM 81?
10/01/09 10:15:41 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10/01/09 10:15:42 >> SECOND.
10/01/09 10:15:45 >> ALL IN
10/01/09 10:15:48 FAVOR SAY AYE.
10/01/09 10:15:48 >> OPPOSED?
10/01/09 10:15:50 >> I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE
10/01/09 10:15:53 FOLLOWING ORDINANCE TO
10/01/09 10:15:55 SECOND
10/01/09 10:15:57 READING AND ADOPTION.
10/01/09 10:15:58 DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING
10/01/09 10:16:00 CERTAIN RIGHTS OF WAY.
10/01/09 10:16:02 LYING NORTH OF 21ST AVENUE,
10/01/09 10:16:04 SOUTH OF 26TH AVENUE, EAST OF
10/01/09 10:16:07 26TH STREET AND WEST OF
10/01/09 10:16:09 24TH
10/01/09 10:16:09 STREET.
10/01/09 10:16:11 IN AF RANDALL SUBDIVISION NUMBER
10/01/09 10:16:14 TWO COLLEGE HILL REVISED
10/01/09 10:16:17 SUBDIVISION, SUBDIVISION IN
10/01/09 10:16:17 CITY
10/01/09 10:16:18 OF TAMPA.
10/01/09 10:16:20 THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY
10/01/09 10:16:23 DESCRIBED IN SECTION
10/01/09 10:16:26 TWO HERE
10/01/09 10:16:26 OF.
10/01/09 10:16:28 SET FORTH HERE IN.
10/01/09 10:16:29 RESTRICTIONS IS MORE
10/01/09 10:16:31 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HERE IN
10/01/09 10:16:32 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10/01/09 10:16:33 >> SECOND.
10/01/09 10:16:36 >> MOVED AND SECOND.
10/01/09 10:16:39 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
10/01/09 10:16:42 DINGFELDER.
10/01/09 10:16:43 RECORD YOUR VOTE, PLEASE.
10/01/09 10:16:46 >> QUESTION CARRIED
10/01/09 10:16:49 WITH CAETANO
10/01/09 10:16:50 BEING ABSENT.
10/01/09 10:16:51 >> ITEM 82?
10/01/09 10:16:54 ANYONE WISH TO ADDRESS COUNCIL
10/01/09 10:16:56 ON ITEM 82?
10/01/09 10:16:56 ITEM 82?
10/01/09 10:16:57 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10/01/09 10:16:58 >> SECOND.
10/01/09 10:17:01 >> ALL IF FAVOR
10/01/09 10:17:04 SAY AYE.
10/01/09 10:17:04 >> AYE.
10/01/09 10:17:05 >> OPPOSES?
10/01/09 10:17:08 ITEM 82, COUNCIL MAN DINGFELDER.
10/01/09 10:17:11 >> I'LL MOVE THE FOLLOWING
10/01/09 10:17:14 ORDINANCE
10/01/09 10:17:17 FOR SECOND
10/01/09 10:17:18 READING.
10/01/09 10:17:20 >> 2009-103 AUTHORIZING THE
10/01/09 10:17:24 INSTALLATION OF
10/01/09 10:17:25 MAINTENANCE OF
10/01/09 10:17:26 PROPOSED ENCROACHMENTS, OVER A
10/01/09 10:17:29 PORTION OF PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY
10/01/09 10:17:31 KNOWN AS SOUTH 12TH STREET IN
10/01/09 10:17:32 CITY OF TAMPA REPLACING THREE
10/01/09 10:17:36 PAGES OF EXHIBIT
10/01/09 10:17:37 A TO DEPICT
10/01/09 10:17:40 INCREASED SIZE OF SUB
10/01/09 10:17:42 SURFACE
10/01/09 10:17:42 FOOTERS.
10/01/09 10:17:43 >> MOVED.
10/01/09 10:17:46 >> MOVED AND SECONDED BY
10/01/09 10:17:51 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10/01/09 10:17:52 RECORD YOUR VOTES.
10/01/09 10:17:54 >> MOTIONED CARRIED WITH CAETANO
10/01/09 10:17:54 BEING ABSENT.
10/01/09 10:17:57 >> I THINK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
10/01/09 10:18:00 PUTS IN TONGUE TWISTERS ON
10/01/09 10:18:00 PURPOSE.
10/01/09 10:18:01 >> ITEM 83?
10/01/09 10:18:04 ANYONE WISH TO ADDRESS COUNCIL
10/01/09 10:18:05 ON ITEM 83?
10/01/09 10:18:07 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10/01/09 10:18:08 >> SECOND.
10/01/09 10:18:11 >> ALL IN FAVOR
10/01/09 10:18:12 SAY AYE.
10/01/09 10:18:13 >> AYE.
10/01/09 10:18:14 >> COUNCILMAN MULHERN, YOU WANT
10/01/09 10:18:15 TO READ 83?
10/01/09 10:18:18 >> NO, I DON'T WANT TO READ
10/01/09 10:18:21 THAT.
10/01/09 10:18:22 >> OKAY, COUNCILMAN UH....
10/01/09 10:18:24 >> MOVE FOR SECOND READING OF
10/01/09 10:18:26 SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE FOR SECOND
10/01/09 10:18:29 READING ADOPTION AND ORDINANCE
10/01/09 10:18:31 APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT
10/01/09 10:18:33 FOR ALCOHOL PERMIT SALES, MAKING
10/01/09 10:18:36 LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
10/01/09 10:18:38 CONTAINING ALCOHOL REGARDLESS OF
10/01/09 10:18:41 ALCOHOL CONTENT, BEER, WINE,
10/01/09 10:18:43 LIQUOR 4 COP CONSUMPTION.
10/01/09 10:18:45 CONSUMPTION OFF THE PREMISES ON
10/01/09 10:18:47 THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT, OR TRACT
10/01/09 10:18:49 OF LAND LOCATED AT THE HEIGHTS
10/01/09 10:18:52 BOUNDED BY ROSS AVENUE, NORTH
10/01/09 10:18:54 BOULEVARD, TAMPA STREET, 7TH
10/01/09 10:18:55 AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA THE AS
10/01/09 10:18:57 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
10/01/09 10:18:59 SECTION 2 THEREOF APPROVING
10/01/09 10:19:01 WAIVERS AS SET FORTH HEREIN
10/01/09 10:19:04 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
10/01/09 10:19:06 ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT PROVIDING
10/01/09 10:19:07 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10/01/09 10:19:10 >> MOVED AND
10/01/09 10:19:12 SECOND SAUL-SENA,
10/01/09 10:19:15 RECORD YOUR
10/01/09 10:19:18 VOTE ON ITEM 83.
10/01/09 10:19:24 >>
10/01/09 10:19:25 MOTION CARRIED.
10/01/09 10:19:26 >>> ITEM 84.
10/01/09 10:19:28 ANYONE WISH TO ADDRESS COUNCIL
10/01/09 10:19:29 ON ITEM 84?
10/01/09 10:19:30 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10/01/09 10:19:30 >> SECOND.
10/01/09 10:19:31 >> MOVED AND SECOND.
10/01/09 10:19:34 ALL IN FAVOR SAY
10/01/09 10:19:35 AYE.
10/01/09 10:19:35 >> AYE.
10/01/09 10:19:36 >> OPPOSED?
10/01/09 10:19:39 >> COUNCIL WOMAN UH, MILLER?
10/01/09 10:19:40 >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
10/01/09 10:19:43 I MOVE TO ADOPT THE FOLLOWING
10/01/09 10:19:48 ORDINANCE UPON SECOND READING.
10/01/09 10:19:55 >>...
10/01/09 10:19:56 FOR CONSUMPTION ON
10/01/09 10:19:58 PREMISES ONLY AT OR FROM THAT
10/01/09 10:20:01 CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF
10/01/09 10:20:04 LAND LOCATED
10/01/09 10:20:07 AT 7532
10/01/09 10:20:08 NORTH
10/01/09 10:20:11 ARMENIA AVENUE, TAMPA,
10/01/09 10:20:12 FLORIDA...
10/01/09 10:20:14 APPROVING WAIVERS AT
10/01/09 10:20:15 SET FORTH HEREIN.
10/01/09 10:20:18 >> MOVED AND
10/01/09 10:20:21 SECONDED BY
10/01/09 10:20:25 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10/01/09 10:20:26 RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10/01/09 10:20:29 >> MOTION CARRIED
10/01/09 10:20:32 WITH CAETANO
10/01/09 10:20:33 BEING ABSENT.
10/01/09 10:20:34 >> ITEM 85?
10/01/09 10:20:37 ANYONE WISH
10/01/09 10:20:39 TO ADDRESS COUNCIL?
10/01/09 10:20:41 ITEM 85, COUNCIL SAUL-SENA?
10/01/09 10:20:44 >> I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE
10/01/09 10:20:45 FOLLOWING ORDINANCE PRESENTING
10/01/09 10:20:48 FOR
10/01/09 10:20:50 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10/01/09 10:20:53 MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE
10/01/09 10:20:53 OF
10/01/09 10:20:55 BEVERAGES CONTAINING ALCOHOL OF
10/01/09 10:20:57 MORE THAN 1% BY WEIGHT AND NOT
10/01/09 10:21:00 MORE THAN 14% BY
10/01/09 10:21:03 WEIGHT.
10/01/09 10:21:06 BEER AND WINE 2 COPR.
10/01/09 10:21:08 ESTABLISHMENT ON THAT CERTAIN
10/01/09 10:21:11 LOT, LOCATED AT 201
10/01/09 10:21:14 AND 203 WEST
10/01/09 10:21:16 PLATT STREET TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10/01/09 10:21:17 APPROVING WAIVERS THAT SET FORTH
10/01/09 10:21:20 HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR APPEAL OF
10/01/09 10:21:21 ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT,
10/01/09 10:21:24 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10/01/09 10:21:27 >> MOVED
10/01/09 10:21:31 AND SECOND.
10/01/09 10:21:32 COUNCIL WOMANMULHERN.
10/01/09 10:21:34 RECORD YOUR VOTE PLEASE.
10/01/09 10:21:37 >> MOTION CARRIED
10/01/09 10:21:38 WITH
10/01/09 10:21:41 DINGFELDER VOTING NO AND
10/01/09 10:21:42 CAETANO
10/01/09 10:21:43 BEING ABSENT.
10/01/09 10:21:46 >> ITEM 86 IS A
10/01/09 10:21:49 CONTINUING
10/01/09 10:21:49 PUBLIC HEARING.
10/01/09 10:21:50 ITEM 86.
10/01/09 10:21:53 >> ALL THE WITNESSES FOR 86 HAVE
10/01/09 10:21:54 BEEN SWORN IN.
10/01/09 10:21:55 86 OR 87.
10/01/09 10:21:57 >> ANYONE HERE GOING TO BE
10/01/09 10:22:00 SPEAKING AT ALL ON PUBLIC
10/01/09 10:22:00 HEARING?
10/01/09 10:22:01 WILL YOU PLEASE STAND?
10/01/09 10:22:03 YOU'LL BE SPEAKING AT ALL TO
10/01/09 10:22:06 COUNCIL TODAY, STAND AND BE
10/01/09 10:22:07 SWORN.
10/01/09 10:22:09 >> DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TELL
10/01/09 10:22:10 THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND
10/01/09 10:22:13 NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
10/01/09 10:22:14 >> I DO.
10/01/09 10:22:15 >> ITEM 86?
10/01/09 10:22:17 >> BARBARA LYNCH, LINE
10/01/09 10:22:18 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10/01/09 10:22:21 THIS IS A PETITION TO VACATE A
10/01/09 10:22:22 PORTION OF 53RD STREET.
10/01/09 10:22:25 I HAVE A
10/01/09 10:22:27 MAP FOR THE OVERHEAD.
10/01/09 10:22:35 THE PETITIONERS PROPERTY IS
10/01/09 10:22:38 SHOWN IN RED AND THE PROPOSED
10/01/09 10:22:40 VACATING IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW.
10/01/09 10:22:41 IS THIS LOCATED IN EAST TAMPA IN
10/01/09 10:22:43 THE VICINITY OF COLUMBUS AND
10/01/09 10:22:45 50TH STREET AND MORE
10/01/09 10:22:48 SPECIFICALLY IT'S A PORTION
10/01/09 10:22:49 OF
10/01/09 10:22:51 53RD STREET, LYING SOUTH OF
10/01/09 10:22:53 BROADWAY NORTH OF THE
10/01/09 10:22:56 CSX RAILROAD
10/01/09 10:22:57 BETWEEN 37TH AND
10/01/09 10:22:58 52ND STREET.
10/01/09 10:23:00 WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THIS
10/01/09 10:23:00 REQUEST.
10/01/09 10:23:03 IT'S BEEN THE SUBJECT OF
10/01/09 10:23:04 TWO
10/01/09 10:23:04 PREVIOUS VACATINGS.
10/01/09 10:23:05 THEY DIDN'T MEET THE TERMS OF
10/01/09 10:23:08 THE VACATING IN THE TIME
10/01/09 10:23:09 SPECIFIED SO IT EXPIRED.
10/01/09 10:23:11 SO IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO YOU
10/01/09 10:23:11 AGAIN.
10/01/09 10:23:11 UM...
10/01/09 10:23:14 WE HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO
10/01/09 10:23:17 THIS
10/01/09 10:23:19 REQUEST, AND STORMWATER
10/01/09 10:23:22 DOES REQUEST AN
10/01/09 10:23:24 EASEMENT AND
10/01/09 10:23:25 SOLIDWASTE REQUESTED THAT TURN
10/01/09 10:23:26 AROUND BE BUILT FOR TRAFFIC AND
10/01/09 10:23:29 I HAVE
10/01/09 10:23:30 PICTURES OF THIS.
10/01/09 10:23:31 UM...
10/01/09 10:23:32 THIS IS THE PORTION OF
10/01/09 10:23:34 53RD STREET THAT THEY WANT TO
10/01/09 10:23:35 VACATE.
10/01/09 10:23:38 IT'S ALREADY BEING INCORPORATED
10/01/09 10:23:44 IN THE
10/01/09 10:23:45 SITE OF KENINS.
10/01/09 10:23:47 IT WILL NOT BE VACATED AND THIS
10/01/09 10:23:50 IS UH, JUST SOME
10/01/09 10:23:52 PICTURES OF THE
10/01/09 10:23:52 SITE.
10/01/09 10:23:55 AND THIS IS THE PROPERTY AS
10/01/09 10:23:56 WELL.
10/01/09 10:23:59 LIKE I SAID BEFORE,
10/01/09 10:24:01 WE HAVE NO
10/01/09 10:24:01 OBJECTIONS.
10/01/09 10:24:04 >> ANYONE
10/01/09 10:24:07 WISH TO ADDRESS
10/01/09 10:24:07 COUNCIL?
10/01/09 10:24:08 >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN,
10/01/09 10:24:11 MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
10/01/09 10:24:14 >> MY
10/01/09 10:24:16 NAME IS JOHN GRANDOFF.
10/01/09 10:24:18 I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF
10/01/09 10:24:19 REPRESENTING KIMMINS
10/01/09 10:24:20 CORPORATION.
10/01/09 10:24:22 THIS IS A COMPANION APPLICATION
10/01/09 10:24:25 WHERE VACATING THE RIGHT
10/01/09 10:24:25 OFWAY
10/01/09 10:24:27 OF 53RD STREET AS PART OF
10/01/09 10:24:28 REZONING WHICH WE'LL TAKE UP AS
10/01/09 10:24:32 PART
10/01/09 10:24:34 OF THE NEXT ITEM.
10/01/09 10:24:49 >> WE'LL
10/01/09 10:24:50 PROVIDE A TURN AROUND
10/01/09 10:24:51 RIGHT ABOUT WHERE THIS AREA IS.
10/01/09 10:24:53 PEOPLE CAN COME DOWN THE ROAD,
10/01/09 10:24:56 TURN AROUND AND GO BACK OUT TO
10/01/09 10:24:56 BROADWAY.
10/01/09 10:24:57 WE'LL CONSTRUCT THE TURN AROUND
10/01/09 10:24:59 AT OUR COST AND WHEN IT'S
10/01/09 10:25:01 COMPLETED, WE'LL PROVIDE AN
10/01/09 10:25:03 EASEMENT TO THE CITY TO PROVIDE
10/01/09 10:25:05 ACCESS FOR THAT TURN AROUND.
10/01/09 10:25:07 TAKE THE TRUCK TRAFFIC OFFER
10/01/09 10:25:09 53RD STREET AND IT WILL MOVE TO
10/01/09 10:25:12 54TH STREET WHICH I'LL SHOW ON
10/01/09 10:25:12 THE REZONING APPLICATION.
10/01/09 10:25:14 I ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE
10/01/09 10:25:15 PETITION TO VACATE THIS MORNING.
10/01/09 10:25:18 >> ANYONE ELSE
10/01/09 10:25:19 FROM THE PUBLIC?
10/01/09 10:25:21 >> I HAVE A QUESTION FROM THE
10/01/09 10:25:23 LEGAL DEPARTMENT, SUPPORT OF
10/01/09 10:25:26 THIS VACATION DOESN'T HAVE
10/01/09 10:25:27 ANY
10/01/09 10:25:27 SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANCE IN
10/01/09 10:25:31 TERMS OF MEANING THAT I HAVE TO
10/01/09 10:25:36 SUPPORT THE NEXT REZONING.
10/01/09 10:25:38 THIS IS AN INDEPENDENT ITEM,
10/01/09 10:25:39 CORRECT?
10/01/09 10:25:40 >> ONE IS NOT CONTINGENT ON THE
10/01/09 10:25:42 OTHER AND UM, IN FACT THEY WERE
10/01/09 10:25:44 RUNNING ON DIFFERENT TRACTS, BUT
10/01/09 10:25:46 BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY BOTH WERE,
10/01/09 10:25:48 THEY ENDED UP ON THE SAME HERE.
10/01/09 10:25:49 >> THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
10/01/09 10:25:50 THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
10/01/09 10:25:53 >> MOTION TO
10/01/09 10:25:54 CLOSE.
10/01/09 10:25:55 >> SO MOVED.
10/01/09 10:25:58 >> ALL IN FAVOR
10/01/09 10:26:01 SAY
10/01/09 10:26:02 AYE.
10/01/09 10:26:03 >> AYE.
10/01/09 10:26:03 >> OPPOSES?
10/01/09 10:26:04 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER YOU
10/01/09 10:26:07 WANT TO READ THE
10/01/09 10:26:07 ORDINANCE?
10/01/09 10:26:10 >> AN ORDINANCE VACATING CLOSING
10/01/09 10:26:12 DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING A
10/01/09 10:26:13 CERTAIN RIGHT-OF-WAY, ALL THAT
10/01/09 10:26:14 PORTION OF 53RD STREET, SOUTH OF
10/01/09 10:26:16 BROADWAY AVENUE, NORTH OF
10/01/09 10:26:18 CSX RAILROAD, WEST OF 57TH
10/01/09 10:26:21 STREET AND EAST OF 52ND STREET
10/01/09 10:26:24 IN DIXIE FARMS
10/01/09 10:26:24 SUBDIVISION.
10/01/09 10:26:25 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA THE
10/01/09 10:26:28 SAME BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED
10/01/09 10:26:31 IN SECTION 2 HERE OF, SET
10/01/09 10:26:33 FORTH
10/01/09 10:26:35 HEREIN, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN
10/01/09 10:26:36 COVENANTS, CONDITIONS, AND
10/01/09 10:26:38 RESTRICTIONS AS MORE
10/01/09 10:26:39 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBES HEREIN
10/01/09 10:26:40 PROVIDE AN EFFECT DATE.
10/01/09 10:26:41 >> MOVE TO SECOND.
10/01/09 10:26:44 ALL IN FAVOR
10/01/09 10:26:45 SAY AYE.
10/01/09 10:26:46 >> AYE.
10/01/09 10:26:46 >> OPPOSES?
10/01/09 10:26:47 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, SECOND READING
10/01/09 10:26:50 AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
10/01/09 10:26:51 OCTOBER 15TH AT 9:30 A.M.
10/01/09 10:26:54 AND A
10/01/09 10:26:57 MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA
10/01/09 10:27:02 BEING ABSENT.
10/01/09 10:27:02 >> ITEM 87?
10/01/09 10:27:17 >> GOOD
10/01/09 10:27:19 MORNING, COUNCIL.
10/01/09 10:27:21 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
10/01/09 10:27:24 THE CASE,
10/01/09 10:27:27 ITEM NUMBER
10/01/09 10:27:28 87 ZO8-40.
10/01/09 10:27:31 5313 EAST BROADWAY AVENUE, 2006,
10/01/09 10:27:34 2008, 54TH STREET, THIS IS THE
10/01/09 10:27:37 KIMMINS REZONING, UM IF
10/01/09 10:27:37 YOU
10/01/09 10:27:39 RECALL THIS WAS BROUGHT TO YOU
10/01/09 10:27:40 AUGUST 27TH IN THE EVENING.
10/01/09 10:27:43 STAFF HAD SOME ISSUES, UM,
10/01/09 10:27:44 AND
10/01/09 10:27:46 SOME OUTSTANDING ITEMS THAT
10/01/09 10:27:47 NEEDED TO BE RESOLVED.
10/01/09 10:27:49 WHAT I DID WAS I PROVIDED A
10/01/09 10:27:51 LITTLE OVERVIEW SHEET FOR YOU,
10/01/09 10:27:52 INSTEAD OF A REVISED STAFF
10/01/09 10:27:54 REPORT THAT KIND OF GOES THROUGH
10/01/09 10:27:55 THOSE ITEMS AND ON THE BACK OF
10/01/09 10:27:57 THAT, YOU'LL SEE THERE ARE STILL
10/01/09 10:28:00 SOME REVISIONS THAT NEED TO
10/01/09 10:28:00 BE
10/01/09 10:28:01 MADE.
10/01/09 10:28:02 I HAVE MET WITH THE PETITIONER,
10/01/09 10:28:05 UM ON A NUMBER OF THESE ISSUES.
10/01/09 10:28:07 AS YOU'LL SEE ON THE BULLETS ON
10/01/09 10:28:10 THE SHEET I HAVE
10/01/09 10:28:12 PROVIDED YOU,
10/01/09 10:28:13 THEY'VE REVISED THEIR REQUEST
10/01/09 10:28:16 FROM SIX FOOT TO 90 FEET DOWN TO
10/01/09 10:28:17 60 FEET.
10/01/09 10:28:19 IS THIS CONSISTENT WHAT A
10/01/09 10:28:22 BUILDING COULD BE BUILT
10/01/09 10:28:23 AT IN
10/01/09 10:28:24 THE ZONING DISTRICT.
10/01/09 10:28:26 THE OTHER THING THEY'VE DONE,
10/01/09 10:28:27 THEY'VE, FURTHER TESTIMONY IN
10/01/09 10:28:30 THE ORIGINAL PIECE THAT EVENING,
10/01/09 10:28:33 RESTRICTED THAT TO
10/01/09 10:28:34 THE SOUTHERN
10/01/09 10:28:37 PARCEL, I'M GOING TO PUT
10/01/09 10:28:40 IT UP.
10/01/09 10:28:46 YOU CAN SEE THIS ON THE SITE
10/01/09 10:28:47 PLANS I PROVIDED YOU.
10/01/09 10:28:49 IT'S GOING TO GO FROM THE
10/01/09 10:28:52 WESTERN SIDE OF 53RD
10/01/09 10:28:52 STREET.
10/01/09 10:28:52 UM...
10/01/09 10:28:53 TO THE EAST.
10/01/09 10:28:55 IN ADDITION, THEY HAVE PUT A
10/01/09 10:28:58 CONDITION TO PROVIDE A
10/01/09 10:29:01 30-FOOT
10/01/09 10:29:02 BUFFER FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES
10/01/09 10:29:05 THAT AREN'T CURRENTLY OWNED BY
10/01/09 10:29:05 KIMMINS.
10/01/09 10:29:07 THEY'LL BUFFER 30 FEET AND IT
10/01/09 10:29:08 WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO THIS
10/01/09 10:29:10 PORTION OF THE SITE THAT COULD
10/01/09 10:29:12 HAVE STACKING AT THE 60.
10/01/09 10:29:14 IF THEY ACQUIRE PROPERTIES IN
10/01/09 10:29:16 THE FUTURE, THAT 30-FOOT BUFFER
10/01/09 10:29:17 WOULD GO AWAY THAT.
10/01/09 10:29:17 WOULD BE
10/01/09 10:29:20 THE ADDITIONAL SET BACK OF THAT
10/01/09 10:29:20 STACKING.
10/01/09 10:29:22 IT WOULD LIMIT TO THE NORTH
10/01/09 10:29:25 WHERE THIS PARCEL BE OR TRACT
10/01/09 10:29:28 B SITE IS, WHICH IS
10/01/09 10:29:31 THE ORIGINAL
10/01/09 10:29:34 KIMMINS UM, KIMMINS PD.
10/01/09 10:29:36 IN ADDITION THEY UM, WE TALKED A
10/01/09 10:29:39 LITTLE BIT AT THE
10/01/09 10:29:40 ORIGINAL
10/01/09 10:29:41 HEARING ABOUT THE [INAUDIBLE]
10/01/09 10:29:42 LOCATED TO THE NORTH OF THE
10/01/09 10:29:44 SCALE HOUSE AND HOW IT DOESN'T
10/01/09 10:29:45 MEET CODE FOR RETENTION.
10/01/09 10:29:48 THAT'S WHY STAFF HAS REQUESTED
10/01/09 10:29:50 ONE THAT THE WAIVER IS LIFTED
10/01/09 10:29:52 AND ALSO THAT INCH FOR INCH
10/01/09 10:29:53 REPLACEMENT WILL BE PROVIDED.
10/01/09 10:29:56 IN ADDITION, THE PETITIONER
10/01/09 10:29:57 IS
10/01/09 10:29:59 COMMITTING TO UM, IT'S THEIR
10/01/09 10:30:02 INTENT TO RETAIN THAT TREE, EVEN
10/01/09 10:30:03 THOUGH IT DOESN'T MEET THE CODE
10/01/09 10:30:04 STANDARDS FOR RETENTION AND
10/01/09 10:30:07 THEY'RE GOING TO COMMIT TO DO
10/01/09 10:30:09 SOME ROOT AERATION AND HAVE OUR
10/01/09 10:30:11 GROUPS ON SITE IN ORDER TO TRY
10/01/09 10:30:12 TO PRESERVE THAT TREE, EVEN
10/01/09 10:30:15 THOUGH IT IS SHOWN ON THE PLAN
10/01/09 10:30:16 AS BEING REMOVED.
10/01/09 10:30:19 IT IS BEING
10/01/09 10:30:22 MITIGATED INCH
10/01/09 10:30:24 FOR
10/01/09 10:30:24 INCH.
10/01/09 10:30:25 IT WASN'T NECESSARILY ON THE
10/01/09 10:30:27 SITE PLAN THAT WAY.
10/01/09 10:30:30 SO THAT REVISION HAS BEEN MADE.
10/01/09 10:30:33 UM, IN ADDITION, AND SINCE WE'RE
10/01/09 10:30:36 ONLY AT FIRST READING,
10/01/09 10:30:37 I BELIEVE
10/01/09 10:30:39 THAT THE PETITIONER, THE
10/01/09 10:30:40 PROPERTY OWNER, KIMMINS HAS
10/01/09 10:30:42 PURCHASED A SOUND BARRIER OR
10/01/09 10:30:43 SOME SORT OF FENCING THEY'LL
10/01/09 10:30:45 WANT TO INSTALL ON THE SITE.
10/01/09 10:30:48 AS YOU MAY KNOW, IN A PD THAT
10/01/09 10:30:50 FENCING NEEDS TO BE NOTATED
10/01/09 10:30:52 AND/OR UM, ILLUSTRATED ON THE
10/01/09 10:30:52 SITE PLANS.
10/01/09 10:30:56 SO THEY HAVE ADDED A
10/01/09 10:30:56 NOTE
10/01/09 10:30:58 CONCERNING FENCING, UH, FOR THE
10/01/09 10:30:59 PROPERTY AND UNDER AN
10/01/09 10:31:02 IG DISTRICT YOU COULD HAVE EIGHT
10/01/09 10:31:02 FOOT.
10/01/09 10:31:04 SO THEY HAVE SAID THAT THEY WILL
10/01/09 10:31:05 COMPLY WITH THAT UNDERLYING
10/01/09 10:31:08 DISTRICT AND HAVE AN EIGHT-FOOT
10/01/09 10:31:10 FENCE OR WALL REQUIREMENT.
10/01/09 10:31:12 IN ADDITION, THEY'VE MADE THE
10/01/09 10:31:14 MINOR TECHNICAL ISSUES IN THE
10/01/09 10:31:15 ORIGIN STAFF REPORT.
10/01/09 10:31:18 AND ONE OF THE LAST ITEMS ON
10/01/09 10:31:21 THAT TURN AROUND ON THE
10/01/09 10:31:22 VACATING, THEY UH,
10/01/09 10:31:24 TRANSPORTATION NEEDED EITHER AN
10/01/09 10:31:26 EASEMENT OVER THAT OR THAT TURN
10/01/09 10:31:28 AROUND BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY.
10/01/09 10:31:30 I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE
10/01/09 10:31:30 PETITIONER.
10/01/09 10:31:32 IT'S THEIR INTENT TO GRANT AN
10/01/09 10:31:33 EASEMENT OVER THAT.
10/01/09 10:31:34 ON THE BACK OF YOUR SHEET,
10/01/09 10:31:36 YOU'LL SEE THE ITEMS THAT ARE
10/01/09 10:31:37 STILL OUTSTANDING AND UM, I JUST
10/01/09 10:31:39 NEED FOR THEM TO NUMBER THE
10/01/09 10:31:41 WAIVERS AND ALSO, TO REVISE THE
10/01/09 10:31:44 NEW NOTES THAT THEY'VE PUT ON
10/01/09 10:31:46 UM, STAFF HAD SOME REQUESTS TO
10/01/09 10:31:48 WORDING, UH, THAT'S IN
10/01/09 10:31:49 RELATIONSHIP TO THE TREE AND
10/01/09 10:31:53 ALSO TO THE STACKING MATERIALS
10/01/09 10:31:55 UH, AREA AND LASTLY TO THE
10/01/09 10:31:55 FENCING.
10/01/09 10:31:58 AND THEN THE LAST ITEM WOULD BE
10/01/09 10:31:58 THE EASEMENT.
10/01/09 10:31:59 SO I'VE OUTLINED THOSE ITEMS FOR
10/01/09 10:32:01 YOU ON THE REVISION SHEET.
10/01/09 10:32:04 WE ARE
10/01/09 10:32:05 AVAILABLE FOR ANY
10/01/09 10:32:06 QUESTIONS.
10/01/09 10:32:07 >> I HAD ONE QUESTION.
10/01/09 10:32:10 I'M LOOKING AT THE REZONING
10/01/09 10:32:11 MAP
10/01/09 10:32:12 AND IT'S, THE ZONING TO THE
10/01/09 10:32:16 RIGHT, TO THE EAST OF UH, THE
10/01/09 10:32:17 PROPERTY, WHAT IS THAT?
10/01/09 10:32:20 I CAN'T READ IT ON HERE?
10/01/09 10:32:20 IT'S CUT OFF.
10/01/09 10:32:23 IT LOOKS LIKE,
10/01/09 10:32:26 I DON'T KNOW
10/01/09 10:32:26 WHAT.
10/01/09 10:32:31 >> IT'S IG.
10/01/09 10:32:34 >> OKAY, ALL OF IT
10/01/09 10:32:35 IS IG?
10/01/09 10:32:36 >> YES.
10/01/09 10:32:37 >> THANKS.
10/01/09 10:32:37 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
10/01/09 10:32:40 >> I'LL HOLD OFF UNTIL THE
10/01/09 10:32:41 PETITIONER SPEAKS, BUT IF YOU
10/01/09 10:32:42 COULD COME BACK.
10/01/09 10:32:42 >> COME BACK?
10/01/09 10:32:46 >> AFTER THE
10/01/09 10:32:47 PETITIONER.
10/01/09 10:32:47 >> OKAY.
10/01/09 10:32:48 MR. RANDOLPH?
10/01/09 10:32:51 >> STATE YOUR NAME.
10/01/09 10:32:54 >> JOHN GRANDOFF ON BEHALF OF
10/01/09 10:32:54 KIMMINS CORPORATION.
10/01/09 10:32:56 FIRST OF ALL, I HAVEN'T BEEN
10/01/09 10:32:57 SWORN AND UM, I'D LIKE TO GET
10/01/09 10:33:00 THAT OUT OF THE WAY.
10/01/09 10:33:02 >> I THINK SOME OTHER PEOPLE
10/01/09 10:33:03 CAME IN TOO.
10/01/09 10:33:05 ANYONE ELSE NEED TO BE SWORN IN,
10/01/09 10:33:05 STAND TOO.
10/01/09 10:33:08 >> DO
10/01/09 10:33:11 YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TELL
10/01/09 10:33:13 THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND
10/01/09 10:33:14 NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
10/01/09 10:33:16 >> I ALSO WANT TO STATE ON THE
10/01/09 10:33:19 RECORD ON
10/01/09 10:33:20 THE PREVIOUS
10/01/09 10:33:22 APPLICATION, I RATIFY AND
10/01/09 10:33:25 CONFIRM EVERYTHING I SAID IN THE
10/01/09 10:33:25 PREVIOUS APPLICATION.
10/01/09 10:33:28 COMPLIES WITH THE CODE.
10/01/09 10:33:29 THANK YOU.
10/01/09 10:33:30 SUMMARIZED THE ITEMS WE REVISED
10/01/09 10:33:31 ON THE SITE PLAN.
10/01/09 10:33:34 WE ARE IN ACCORD WITH ALL THOSE
10/01/09 10:33:34 REVISIONS.
10/01/09 10:33:37 THERE ARE A
10/01/09 10:33:40 FEW TYPOGRAPHICAL
10/01/09 10:33:42 ESH AL
10/01/09 10:33:42 ERRORS.
10/01/09 10:33:45 TO GIVE YOU A SUMMARY, WE WILL
10/01/09 10:33:47 NOW CLOSE THE ENTRANCE AT 53RD
10/01/09 10:33:48 BECAUSE OF THE PETITION TO
10/01/09 10:33:51 VACATE AND THE ENTRANCE WILL NOW
10/01/09 10:33:54 BE PLACED ON 54TH STREET FOR THE
10/01/09 10:33:57 ENTIRE OPERATION.
10/01/09 10:33:58 WE RESPECT THE REQUEST OF YOUR
10/01/09 10:34:01 APPROVAL THIS MORNING, THANK
10/01/09 10:34:01 YOU.
10/01/09 10:34:03 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU
10/01/09 10:34:03 HAD A QUESTION?
10/01/09 10:34:06 >> I'LL WAIT AND TALK
10/01/09 10:34:06 AFTERWARDS.
10/01/09 10:34:09 >> PUBLIC HEARING, ANYONE WISH
10/01/09 10:34:10 TO ADDRESS?
10/01/09 10:34:13 COUNCIL MAY
10/01/09 10:34:14 COME FORWARD.
10/01/09 10:34:14 THREE MINUTES.
10/01/09 10:34:17 >> GOOD MORNING,
10/01/09 10:34:20 LINDA PEARSON.
10/01/09 10:34:23 1200 WEST PLATT.
10/01/09 10:34:24 TAMPA 33606.
10/01/09 10:34:25 I'M REPRESENTING MY CLIENT AS
10/01/09 10:34:28 WELL
10/01/09 10:34:31 AS MR.
10/01/09 10:34:31 JOE ANTENORI.
10/01/09 10:34:34 >> SPEAKER WAIVER FOR MR.
10/01/09 10:34:36 ANTENORI ARE YOU HERE?
10/01/09 10:34:38 >> I REQUEST AN ADDITIONAL
10/01/09 10:34:39 MINUTE, PLEASE.
10/01/09 10:34:40 >> WE REMAIN OPPOSED TO THE
10/01/09 10:34:42 HEIGHT OF THE MOUNDS, EVEN AT 60
10/01/09 10:34:43 FEET.
10/01/09 10:34:45 THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA ARE
10/01/09 10:34:45 CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRIOR
10/01/09 10:34:48 COMMENTS WE MADE AT PRIOR
10/01/09 10:34:49 HEARINGS ABOUT THIS.
10/01/09 10:34:50 UM...
10/01/09 10:34:51 WE HAVE SHOWN PHOTOS,
10/01/09 10:34:54 PREVIOUSLY, OF THE
10/01/09 10:34:56 SITE UH,
10/01/09 10:34:58 REPRESENTING UM, SOME OF THE
10/01/09 10:34:59 CONDITIONS OF THE SITE.
10/01/09 10:35:01 I'LL BE PASSING THOSE BACK
10/01/09 10:35:02 AROUND TO YOU SHORTLY.
10/01/09 10:35:04 I'LL SUBMIT THEM INTO THE
10/01/09 10:35:04 RECORD.
10/01/09 10:35:06 THE REQUESTS, WE BELIEVE UH, IS
10/01/09 10:35:09 STILL INCONSISTENT WITH THE
10/01/09 10:35:09 IGUS.
10/01/09 10:35:11 AN ENCLOSED BUILDING OF 60 FEET
10/01/09 10:35:14 IS DIFFERENT THAN AN OPEN MOUND
10/01/09 10:35:15 OF CONCRETE, AGGREGATE DUST,
10/01/09 10:35:18 SCRAP MATERIALS, FLYING THROUGH
10/01/09 10:35:20 THE AIR.
10/01/09 10:35:24 UM...
10/01/09 10:35:26 THE FACARDS AND ANTENORI'S
10/01/09 10:35:28 ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HEALTH
10/01/09 10:35:28 ISSUES.
10/01/09 10:35:31 THE NEW ENTRANCE TO THIS PROJECT
10/01/09 10:35:33 WILL BE BEHIND HIS HOUSE.
10/01/09 10:35:33 HE'LL HAVE IT DIRECTLY BEHIND
10/01/09 10:35:36 HIM AS WELL AS NORMAL STREET
10/01/09 10:35:38 TRAFFIC IN FRONT.
10/01/09 10:35:41 THAT IS A GRAVE CONCERN TO
10/01/09 10:35:42 HIM.
10/01/09 10:35:45 WE'RE SUPPORTING
10/01/09 10:35:48 OF IGNC USES
10/01/09 10:35:50 AND REQUEST MODIFIED HOURS OF
10/01/09 10:35:51 OPERATION SO NO ACTIVITY BEGINS
10/01/09 10:35:52 BEFORE 7:00 A.M.
10/01/09 10:35:53 THESE PEOPLE
10/01/09 10:35:55 DO RESIDE THERE, THEY'RE
10/01/09 10:35:57 RETIREES, THEY'VE LIVED THERE A
10/01/09 10:35:59 LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
10/01/09 10:36:00 WOULD LIKE YOUR CONSIDERATION IN
10/01/09 10:36:01 THAT REGARD.
10/01/09 10:36:01 UM...
10/01/09 10:36:03 WE HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE
10/01/09 10:36:05 ENOUGH, AND MR. GRANDOFF HAS
10/01/09 10:36:07 BEEN GOOD TO WORK WITH US AND
10/01/09 10:36:10 NEGOTIATE WITH US, WE'VE
10/01/09 10:36:11 BEEN
10/01/09 10:36:12 DISCUSSING OTHER ISSUES RELATIVE
10/01/09 10:36:14 TO BUFFERS AND WE APPRECIATE THE
10/01/09 10:36:16 RELOCATION OF THE MOUNDS AS ON
10/01/09 10:36:19 THE MODIFIED SITE
10/01/09 10:36:19 PLAN.
10/01/09 10:36:21 WE ARE ASKING HOWEVER, ONE ITEM
10/01/09 10:36:24 WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING
10/01/09 10:36:26 THIS
10/01/09 10:36:27 MORNING.
10/01/09 10:36:28 UM...
10/01/09 10:36:31 MR. ANTENORI LIVES HERE,
10/01/09 10:36:33 MR. FACARA OWNS THIS PROPERTY,
10/01/09 10:36:34 THIS PROPERTY AND THIS PROPERTY.
10/01/09 10:36:37 AND WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING WITH
10/01/09 10:36:38 MR. RANDOLPH TODAY, THE
10/01/09 10:36:40 CONSTRUCTION OF AN 8-FOOT FENCE,
10/01/09 10:36:42 A SOLID FENCE ALONG THIS
10/01/09 10:36:44 BOUNDARY, THE WESTERN BOUNDARY
10/01/09 10:36:47 OF WHERE THEIR
10/01/09 10:36:50 SCRAP METAL
10/01/09 10:36:51 OPERATION IS PROPOSED.
10/01/09 10:36:54 WHICH IS ADJACENT TO
10/01/09 10:36:57 MR. FACAR'S
10/01/09 10:36:59 PROPERTY AT 16019.0000 WE HAVE
10/01/09 10:37:02 BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN AND
10/01/09 10:37:03 REQUESTING THE 8-FOOT SOLID
10/01/09 10:37:06 FENCE, AS WELL AS TREE PLANTINGS
10/01/09 10:37:07 ALONG THAT ONE BOUNDARY.
10/01/09 10:37:10 THE
10/01/09 10:37:13 APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO
10/01/09 10:37:14 AN
10/01/09 10:37:14 8-FOOT BUFFER.
10/01/09 10:37:16 WE'RE REQUESTING THAT TREES
10/01/09 10:37:19 WOULD BE PLANTED THERE TO GROW
10/01/09 10:37:23 ABOVE THE 8-FOOT FENCE.
10/01/09 10:37:26 I'LL SUBMIT THE OTHER DOCUMENTS
10/01/09 10:37:27 INTO THE RECORD.
10/01/09 10:37:29 WE HAVE BEEN AWAITING RESULTS
10/01/09 10:37:32 THE STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO
10/01/09 10:37:33 DO
10/01/09 10:37:34 RESEARCH.
10/01/09 10:37:37 I BELIEVE MRS.
10/01/09 10:37:40 SAUL-SENA AND
10/01/09 10:37:43 MR.
10/01/09 10:37:43 CAETANO.
10/01/09 10:37:46 WE'VE BEEN INQUIRING WITH STAFF
10/01/09 10:37:47 SOMETIME.
10/01/09 10:37:50 WE'VE NOT
10/01/09 10:37:52 RECEIVED THAT DATA.
10/01/09 10:37:53 RELATIVE TO MANAGEMENT AND HOURS
10/01/09 10:37:56 OF
10/01/09 10:37:57 OPERATION AND HYPE.
10/01/09 10:37:57 THANK YOU.
10/01/09 10:38:00 >> I'D LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION
10/01/09 10:38:02 OF
10/01/09 10:38:02 THE LAST SPEAKER.
10/01/09 10:38:04 THAT IS WHAT, I HEAR YOU ABOUT
10/01/09 10:38:07 THE HEIGHT OF THE STACKS,
10/01/09 10:38:07 WHAT
10/01/09 10:38:09 HAVE YOU DISCUSSED THOUGH WHAT
10/01/09 10:38:11 HEIGHT OF STACKS WOULD BE
10/01/09 10:38:13 COMFORTABLE FOR YOUR CLIENT?
10/01/09 10:38:14 >> YES, WE HAVE.
10/01/09 10:38:16 AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE'VE
10/01/09 10:38:19 DISCUSSED THAT AT
10/01/09 10:38:19 LENGTH.
10/01/09 10:38:22 THE IG WOULD ALLOW AN 8-FOOT
10/01/09 10:38:25 HIGH, UM, WE BELIEVE THREE TIMES
10/01/09 10:38:26 THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT, MAYBE
10/01/09 10:38:29 EVEN 25 FEET IN HEIGHT.
10/01/09 10:38:30 THEY'RE REQUESTING 60 FEET AND
10/01/09 10:38:32 WE JUST BELIEVE THAT'S TOO HIGH.
10/01/09 10:38:34 THE PICTURES I'LL SHOW YOU WILL
10/01/09 10:38:37 SHOW THE MOUNDS AT 45 AND
10/01/09 10:38:38 50
10/01/09 10:38:38 FEET.
10/01/09 10:38:42 WHAT WE'RE SHOWING YOU, THEY'RE
10/01/09 10:38:44 STILL REQUESTING IT HIGHER THAN
10/01/09 10:38:45 THE PHOTOS HERE.
10/01/09 10:38:47 >> HAVE YOU DISCUSSED THAT WITH
10/01/09 10:38:47 THE PETITIONER?
10/01/09 10:38:50 >> THEY ARE, THEY FEEL, THEY CAN
10/01/09 10:38:50 SEE--
10/01/09 10:38:51 >> YOU HAVE BROUGHT THAT HEIGHT
10/01/09 10:38:52 TO THEM.
10/01/09 10:38:55 >> WE
10/01/09 10:38:57 TALKED ABOUT LOWERING IT.
10/01/09 10:38:58 THEY LOWERED TO 60.
10/01/09 10:39:01 >> WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS ILLEGAL
10/01/09 10:39:01 MR. CHAIRMAN.
10/01/09 10:39:03 I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOUR
10/01/09 10:39:03 STAFF.
10/01/09 10:39:05 WE ASKED YOU TO DO RESEARCH,
10/01/09 10:39:08 MAYBE I DIDN'T SEE IT IN
10/01/09 10:39:09 THE
10/01/09 10:39:10 MATERIAL.
10/01/09 10:39:13 >> ABBY PHILLY, LAND
10/01/09 10:39:14 DEVELOPMENT
10/01/09 10:39:14 CORPORATION.
10/01/09 10:39:16 WE LOOKED AT MUNICIPALITIES WITH
10/01/09 10:39:18 PORTS, THE JAKSILVILLE, MIAMI, I
10/01/09 10:39:19 KNOW THERE HAS BEEN RESEARCH
10/01/09 10:39:21 DONE ON CERTAIN COUNTIES, MORE
10/01/09 10:39:23 WORLD COUNTIES WITH HIGHER
10/01/09 10:39:24 INDUSTRY AND THAT WASN'T REALLY
10/01/09 10:39:26 IN JACKSONVILLE, THERE IS NO
10/01/09 10:39:27 HEIGHT LIMITATION.
10/01/09 10:39:28 THERE IS NO
10/01/09 10:39:31 SETBACK AND NO LOCK COVER
10/01/09 10:39:32 MAXIMUM.
10/01/09 10:39:33 OUTDOOR STORAGE IS PERMITTED.
10/01/09 10:39:36 THEY ONLY REQUIRE 95% OPAQUE
10/01/09 10:39:37 6
10/01/09 10:39:37 FOOT WALL.
10/01/09 10:39:38 >> WOULD THEY HAVE, THE ISSUE
10/01/09 10:39:41 HERE IS THAT
10/01/09 10:39:43 YOU'VE GOT
10/01/09 10:39:45 RESIDENCES ADJACENT TO THIS
10/01/09 10:39:46 INDUSTRIAL USE.
10/01/09 10:39:47 THAT'S THE CHALLENGE.
10/01/09 10:39:49 IN JACKSONVILLE IT'S MORE
10/01/09 10:39:49 SEPARATED.
10/01/09 10:39:51 >> JACKSONVILLE WAS ONE OF THE
10/01/09 10:39:53 ONES YOU ASKED ME TO LOCATE.
10/01/09 10:39:54 >> NO, BUT WHAT'S PARTICULAR
10/01/09 10:39:56 ABOUT THIS ISSUE BEFORE US TODAY
10/01/09 10:39:57 IS THAT, YOU'VE GOT THE
10/01/09 10:39:59 PROXIMITY OF THE--
10/01/09 10:40:00 >> I UNDERSTAND, IT'S DIFFICULT
10/01/09 10:40:01 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE TO
10/01/09 10:40:04 ACTUALLY GO, I MEAN, WE
10/01/09 10:40:05 DON'T
10/01/09 10:40:08 HAVE IN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH TO GO
10/01/09 10:40:08 THROUGH.
10/01/09 10:40:09 WE COULD ONLY REALLY PULL WHAT
10/01/09 10:40:11 THEIR CODE REQUIRES, SO IN THEIR
10/01/09 10:40:14 CODE THERE IS NO HEIGHT
10/01/09 10:40:15 LIMITATION ON STACKING.
10/01/09 10:40:15 >> OKAY.
10/01/09 10:40:17 >> IN ST. PETE IT'S 6 FEET.
10/01/09 10:40:20 ABOVE THE CROWN OF
10/01/09 10:40:23 THE ROAD.
10/01/09 10:40:23 UM...
10/01/09 10:40:26 IN MIAMI-DADE, I
10/01/09 10:40:28 HAD THAT
10/01/09 10:40:29 ONE.
10/01/09 10:40:32 IT WAS, HILLSBOROUGH, LET ME
10/01/09 10:40:32 JUST LOOK.
10/01/09 10:40:34 IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IT WAS
10/01/09 10:40:36 NO, THERE WAS NO CLEAR MAXIMUM
10/01/09 10:40:37 STATED.
10/01/09 10:40:39 IT HAD TO MATCH THE HEIGHT OF
10/01/09 10:40:40 WHATEVER'S BEING SCREENED.
10/01/09 10:40:43 >> YOU HAVE AN EIGHT-FOOT WALL,
10/01/09 10:40:46 YOU COULD HAVE AN
10/01/09 10:40:47 EIGHT-FOOT
10/01/09 10:40:47 STACK.
10/01/09 10:40:48 >> RIGHT.
10/01/09 10:40:50 >> AND FOR THE MANATEE, I MEAN,
10/01/09 10:40:53 IN MANATEE COUNTY, THE
10/01/09 10:40:56 PORT WAS
10/01/09 10:40:56 EXEMPT.
10/01/09 10:40:57 UM AND SO WAS INDUSTRIAL.
10/01/09 10:41:00 IT WAS 60 FOOT IN MARION
10/01/09 10:41:00 COUNTY.
10/01/09 10:41:03 AND THEN, I, I COULDN'T, IT WAS
10/01/09 10:41:06 UNCLEAR IN MIAMI-DADE WHAT THERE
10/01/09 10:41:09 REQUIREMENTS
10/01/09 10:41:12 WERE.
10/01/09 10:41:14 >> THANK YOU.
10/01/09 10:41:17 >> MR. GRANDOFF, LET'S JUST
10/01/09 10:41:20 CLARIFY SOME OF THESE THINGS.
10/01/09 10:41:22 THE, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND
10/01/09 10:41:24 THIS HAS BEEN, THIS HAS BEEN
10/01/09 10:41:25 BANGING AROUND FOR A COUPLE
10/01/09 10:41:27 YEARS NOW, BUT IT'S MY
10/01/09 10:41:28 UNDERSTANDING THAT WITH ALL THE
10/01/09 10:41:31 COMPROMISES THAT HAVE BEEN
10/01/09 10:41:32 REACHED, THE, YEAH, YOU WANT TO
10/01/09 10:41:34 LEAVE THAT UP FOR A SECOND.
10/01/09 10:41:37 TO THE,
10/01/09 10:41:39 TO THE WEST OF, WHAT IS
10/01/09 10:41:40 THAT, 53RD STREET?
10/01/09 10:41:41 WHAT'S YOUR MAX, UNDER THE NEW
10/01/09 10:41:44 SITE PLAN, UNDER THE NEW RULES,
10/01/09 10:41:46 FORGET ABOUT ANCIENT HISTORY,
10/01/09 10:41:47 WHAT'S YOUR MAXIMUM HEIGHT GOING
10/01/09 10:41:49 TO BE ALLOWED FOR STACKING TO
10/01/09 10:41:52 THE
10/01/09 10:41:54 WEST OF 53RD STREET?
10/01/09 10:42:03 >> I THINK WE WOULD BE LIMITED
10/01/09 10:42:04 TO, I DON'T KNOW.
10/01/09 10:42:07 >> I GUESS MY POINT
10/01/09 10:42:08 IS, THE
10/01/09 10:42:09 60-FOOT MOUNDS AREN'T GOING TO
10/01/09 10:42:11 BE THE WEST OF 53RD.
10/01/09 10:42:12 ISN'T THAT THE AGREEMENT?
10/01/09 10:42:13 >> THAT'S RIGHT.
10/01/09 10:42:14 >> THAT IS CORRECT.
10/01/09 10:42:16 >> HOW TALL A MOUND WOULD THEY
10/01/09 10:42:17 BE ALLOWED?
10/01/09 10:42:19 >> THEY'D HAVE TO MEET CODE.
10/01/09 10:42:19 6 FOOT.
10/01/09 10:42:22 >> THE ONLY PLACE THAT THE
10/01/09 10:42:24 WAIVER IS BEING REQUESTED WAS
10/01/09 10:42:27 IN, AND HERE, THIS
10/01/09 10:42:30 KIND OF LINES
10/01/09 10:42:33 UP, A LITTLE HARD TO SHOW
10/01/09 10:42:34 YOU,
10/01/09 10:42:35 BUT THE ONLY PLACE THAT THE 60
10/01/09 10:42:37 FEET IS GOING TO BE IN THIS
10/01/09 10:42:40 HATCHED AREA HERE WITH A
10/01/09 10:42:42 30-FOOT
10/01/09 10:42:43 SETBACK TO ADJACENT PROPERTY
10/01/09 10:42:44 OWNERS HERE.
10/01/09 10:42:47 THAT EQUATES ON
10/01/09 10:42:47 A LARGER SCALE
10/01/09 10:42:49 TO RIGHT IN THIS AREA.
10/01/09 10:42:51 EVERYTHING ELSE HAS TO REMAIN AT
10/01/09 10:42:52 SIX FEET OR THEY'LL BE IN
10/01/09 10:42:53 VIOLATION.
10/01/09 10:42:54 >> GO BACK TO THE AERIAL FOR A
10/01/09 10:42:55 SECOND.
10/01/09 10:42:56 I HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU THERE.
10/01/09 10:42:59 IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THE BULK
10/01/09 10:43:01 OF THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT
10/01/09 10:43:04 RESIDENTIAL IS UP IN THAT
10/01/09 10:43:05 LITTLE
10/01/09 10:43:06 QUADRANT, RIGHT.
10/01/09 10:43:06 UP THERE.
10/01/09 10:43:09 >> YES, THERE'S A MOBILE HOME
10/01/09 10:43:09 PARK HERE.
10/01/09 10:43:11 UH...
10/01/09 10:43:14 I BELIEVE MR. ANTENORINK'S
10/01/09 10:43:14 IS HERE.
10/01/09 10:43:16 AND THEN THERE'S, THESE ARE FAR
10/01/09 10:43:19 LONGER
10/01/09 10:43:19 LOTS.
10/01/09 10:43:20 THE STRUCTURES WERE UP.
10/01/09 10:43:21 >> ALL THE WAY--
10/01/09 10:43:24 >> THOSE ARE TYPICALLY, I MEAN,
10/01/09 10:43:25 THEY'RE NON-CONFORMING,
10/01/09 10:43:27 OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE IT'S
10/01/09 10:43:29 RESIDENTIAL AND INDUSTRIAL
10/01/09 10:43:29 DISTRICT.
10/01/09 10:43:30 UM--
10/01/09 10:43:31 >> SO I THINK IT'S CRITICAL THAT
10/01/09 10:43:33 WE, WE SHOULD AND WE HAVE
10/01/09 10:43:36 PROTECTED THESE NEIGHBORS
10/01/09 10:43:37 OVER
10/01/09 10:43:40 THERE
10/01/09 10:43:43 BY PARK HORT AND RAINS
10/01/09 10:43:44 LAIN AND 55RD STREET.
10/01/09 10:43:45 WE'VE DONE THAT.
10/01/09 10:43:46 WITH THE COMPROMISES THAT HAVE
10/01/09 10:43:49 BEEN REACHED, WHICH
10/01/09 10:43:50 IS
10/01/09 10:43:50 WONDERFUL.
10/01/09 10:43:51 OKAY?
10/01/09 10:43:51 COMPROMISE IS THE WHOLE NATURE
10/01/09 10:43:52 OF THIS TYPE OF THING.
10/01/09 10:43:54 WHEN YOU HAVE THIS TYPE OF HEAVY
10/01/09 10:43:56 USE ADJACENT TO FOLKS WHO ARE
10/01/09 10:43:56 LIVING THERE.
10/01/09 10:43:57 SO WE'VE SHIFTED THE, THE
10/01/09 10:44:00 MAJORITY OF THE HEAVY ACTIVITY,
10/01/09 10:44:03 AND ESPECIALLY THE STACKING
10/01/09 10:44:04 THAT
10/01/09 10:44:05 WAS SO OFFENSIVE, WE'VE SHIFTED
10/01/09 10:44:08 ALL THAT TO THE EAST OF 53RD
10/01/09 10:44:09 STREET.
10/01/09 10:44:10 OKAY, ANYWAY I WANTED TO POINT
10/01/09 10:44:11 THAT OUT.
10/01/09 10:44:12 THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO
10/01/09 10:44:15 POINT OUT, THE OTHER
10/01/09 10:44:18 COMPROMISES, WE'VE
10/01/09 10:44:19 ADDED
10/01/09 10:44:20 ADDITIONAL BUFFERINGS.
10/01/09 10:44:22 WE'VE REFUSED THE HEIGHT FROM 90
10/01/09 10:44:24 FEET TO 60 FEET.
10/01/09 10:44:27 WHAT HAVE WE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
10/01/09 10:44:29 FOR THE LAST YEAR.
10/01/09 10:44:30 GREEN JOBS, REUSE, RECYCLING,
10/01/09 10:44:31 ALL THAT STUFF.
10/01/09 10:44:32 THIS IS ABOUT GREEN JOBS.
10/01/09 10:44:34 THIS IS TAKING, YOU KNOW, METAL
10/01/09 10:44:36 OUT OF BUILDINGS AND THEY BRING
10/01/09 10:44:39 IT OVER THERE AND THEY POUND
10/01/09 10:44:41 IT
10/01/09 10:44:44 UP AND CONCRETE AND EVERYTHING
10/01/09 10:44:47 ELSE AND USE IT FOR OTHER
10/01/09 10:44:47 PURPOSES.
10/01/09 10:44:49 IF WE WANT TO CHASE THIS OUT OF
10/01/09 10:44:50 THE CITY AND TO ANOTHER COUNTY,
10/01/09 10:44:52 I GUESS WE COULD.
10/01/09 10:44:54 BUT IT BECOMES LESS ECONOMIC TO
10/01/09 10:44:54 RECYCLE.
10/01/09 10:44:57 THE FURTHER YOU HAVE TO
10/01/09 10:45:00 TRANSPORT IT, THE LESS FINANCIAL
10/01/09 10:45:01 SENSE IT MAKES.
10/01/09 10:45:03 THIS HAS BEEN A HARD ONE, BUT I
10/01/09 10:45:05 THINK WE'RE AT A GOOD PLACE AND
10/01/09 10:45:08 I THINK WE'VE DONE OUR WORK.
10/01/09 10:45:09 I'LL SUPPORT IT.
10/01/09 10:45:10 >> CAN YOU SHOW ME ON THIS MAP
10/01/09 10:45:14 WHERE THE STACKS ARE GOING TO
10/01/09 10:45:14 BE?
10/01/09 10:45:15 >> YES, SIR.
10/01/09 10:45:16 THE STACKS THAT WILL EXCEED
10/01/09 10:45:18 CODE, THE STACKS THAT THEY'RE
10/01/09 10:45:21 ASKING FOR 60 FEET, WILL
10/01/09 10:45:23 BE IN
10/01/09 10:45:25 THIS LOWER EASTERN QUADRANT
10/01/09 10:45:26 HERE.
10/01/09 10:45:28 >> SO IT'S REALLY NOT A BUDDING
10/01/09 10:45:28 RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
10/01/09 10:45:30 >> AND FOR PROPERTIES THAT THEY
10/01/09 10:45:32 DO NOT OWN ADJACENT TO THEM,
10/01/09 10:45:35 THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE
10/01/09 10:45:36 A
10/01/09 10:45:36 30-FOOT SETBACK HERE.
10/01/09 10:45:37 >> OKAY.
10/01/09 10:45:39 >> ALL THE REST OF THE PROPERTY
10/01/09 10:45:40 SHOWN HERE, HERE, COMING UP
10/01/09 10:45:42 HERE, THAT ALL WOULD ONLY BE
10/01/09 10:45:45 ALLOWED AT SIX-FOOT IN HEIGHT.
10/01/09 10:45:46 ANYTHING ABOVE SIX-FOOT WOULD BE
10/01/09 10:45:48 IN VIOLATION OF THIS REZONING.
10/01/09 10:45:49 SO THEY COULD BE POTENTIALLY
10/01/09 10:45:51 SITED FOR THAT IF THE STACKING
10/01/09 10:45:54 IS OCCURRING OUTSIDE OF
10/01/09 10:45:55 THIS
10/01/09 10:45:56 DESIGNATED AREA.
10/01/09 10:45:57 >> OKAY, UH...
10/01/09 10:45:58 MA'AM, THE
10/01/09 10:46:01 ATTORNEY
10/01/09 10:46:03 THAT WAS
10/01/09 10:46:04 REPRESENTING...
10/01/09 10:46:04 LINDA?
10/01/09 10:46:08 >> I THINK JOE'S
10/01/09 10:46:09 CALLING YOU.
10/01/09 10:46:12 >> I LOVE PROMOTIONS.
10/01/09 10:46:12 I LIKE MONEY BETTER.
10/01/09 10:46:15 >> YOU SAID THERE WERE THINGS
10/01/09 10:46:16 FLYING THROUGH THE AIR.
10/01/09 10:46:18 >> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DUST.
10/01/09 10:46:20 WHEN THE MOUNDS HAVE BEEN AT THE
10/01/09 10:46:23 HEIGHT THEY CURRENTLY ARE AND
10/01/09 10:46:24 DROUGHT LAST SUMMER, THE DUST
10/01/09 10:46:27 WOULD PLOW OVER, IT'S LIKE AN
10/01/09 10:46:29 EGYPT SANDSTORM, WHEN IT'S BAD.
10/01/09 10:46:31 THIS YEAR HASN'T BEEN AS BAD
10/01/09 10:46:32 BECAUSE CERTAINLY WE'VE HAD A
10/01/09 10:46:33 LOT OF RAIN AND THAT HAS HELPED,
10/01/09 10:46:36 BUT LAST YEAR IT WAS VERY
10/01/09 10:46:39 DIFFICULT FOR MR. FACAR'S
10/01/09 10:46:40 OPERATION WITH THE DUST THAT
10/01/09 10:46:44 WOULD BLOW AND SETTLE ON
10/01/09 10:46:44 THE
10/01/09 10:46:48 CARS HE HAS IN HIS
10/01/09 10:46:48 SCRAP YARD,
10/01/09 10:46:50 USED AUTOMOBILE PARKS SCRAP
10/01/09 10:46:50 BUSINESS.
10/01/09 10:46:51 HIS FOLKS HAVE TO LAY ON THE
10/01/09 10:46:53 CARS WHAT HAVE YOU AND THAT'S
10/01/09 10:46:54 MADE IT DIFFICULT.
10/01/09 10:46:55 THERE'S THE SCRAP METAL
10/01/09 10:46:57 OPERATION AND THAT'S, I'M SORRY,
10/01/09 10:47:00 I WAS TALKING TO MR. GRANDOFF,
10/01/09 10:47:01 CLARIFYING JUST NOW THE HEIGHT.
10/01/09 10:47:02 >> IT'S THE SAND PARTICLES
10/01/09 10:47:04 COMING FROM THE MOUNDS.
10/01/09 10:47:07 AND THOSE MOUNDS, UH, AT 60,
10/01/09 10:47:08 THERE'S A PEAK.
10/01/09 10:47:10 SO THEY'RE NOT 60 FEET ACROSS
10/01/09 10:47:10 FLAT.
10/01/09 10:47:12 THEY'RE IN A PEAK, AREN'T THEY?
10/01/09 10:47:15 >> THEY ARE CURRENTLY, AS YOU
10/01/09 10:47:17 SEE FROM THE PHOTOGRAPH.
10/01/09 10:47:18 >> I VISITED ANOTHER BUSINESS
10/01/09 10:47:21 SIMILAR TO THIS AND THEY
10/01/09 10:47:21 HAVE A
10/01/09 10:47:23 SPRINKLER SYSTEM TO KEEP THIS
10/01/09 10:47:24 DUST FROM FLYING AROUND.
10/01/09 10:47:27 AND THAT'S WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN
10/01/09 10:47:30 DOES TO KEEP HIS DUST DOWN.
10/01/09 10:47:30 IT WORKS.
10/01/09 10:47:33 I WOULD THINK IT WOULDN'T BE
10/01/09 10:47:36 THAT EXPENSIVE
10/01/09 10:47:37 FOR THE
10/01/09 10:47:40 PETITIONER TO PUT UP SOME TYPE
10/01/09 10:47:41 OF SPRINKLER SYSTEM SO THAT
10/01/09 10:47:43 STUFF WOULDN'T BE FLYING AROUND.
10/01/09 10:47:44 >> WE ASKED, AS RESIDENTS IN THE
10/01/09 10:47:47 AREA TO SEE A DUST MANAGEMENT
10/01/09 10:47:49 PLAN AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN ONE.
10/01/09 10:47:51 >> IT WOULDN'T BE THAT EXPENSIVE
10/01/09 10:47:53 FOR A SPRINKLER SYSTEM AND MAYBE
10/01/09 10:47:54 THE PETITIONER COULD DO
10/01/09 10:47:55 SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
10/01/09 10:47:56 I THINK IT WOULD HELP.
10/01/09 10:47:57 THANK YOU.
10/01/09 10:48:00 >> WE DO THAT AS
10/01/09 10:48:01 PART OF OUR
10/01/09 10:48:02 ON-SITE PROTOCOL.
10/01/09 10:48:05 WE ALSO SPRAY 53RD STREET TO
10/01/09 10:48:06 KEEP THE DUST DOWN.
10/01/09 10:48:08 I WANT TO EXPLAIN ONE THING.
10/01/09 10:48:09 WE'VE MISSED SOMETHING.
10/01/09 10:48:10 I WANT TO TELL YOU.
10/01/09 10:48:13 WEST OF 53RD STREET AND MR.
10/01/09 10:48:15 DINGFELDER ASKED THE QUESTION OF
10/01/09 10:48:16 OUR HEIGHT LIMIT THERE.
10/01/09 10:48:17 WE NEED 15 FEET OF HEIGHT THERE
10/01/09 10:48:20 TO STACK
10/01/09 10:48:21 THE SCRAP METAL.
10/01/09 10:48:23 SIX FEET WILL NOT DO.
10/01/09 10:48:25 THAT ONE GOT BY US.
10/01/09 10:48:28 WE WERE SO FOCUSED ON 53RD AND
10/01/09 10:48:31 60 FEET, AND FORGET ABOUT WEST
10/01/09 10:48:31 OF.
10/01/09 10:48:33 NOW LET ME POINT OUT ONE OTHER
10/01/09 10:48:36 THING, WE CANNOT STACK PAST THIS
10/01/09 10:48:37 LINE HERE.
10/01/09 10:48:39 THIS IS A SEPARATE PARCEL WE
10/01/09 10:48:40 OWN.
10/01/09 10:48:42 WE CANNOT STACK ON THAT PROPERTY
10/01/09 10:48:43 AND WE'RE NOT.
10/01/09 10:48:44 WE'VE TAKEN ALL PRODUCTION OFF
10/01/09 10:48:45 THERE.
10/01/09 10:48:47 HERE'S WHERE WE'RE STAGING THE
10/01/09 10:48:48 SCRAP METAL BEFORE IT'S PUT ON
10/01/09 10:48:49 THE ROAD.
10/01/09 10:48:51 WE NEED TO BE AT 15 FEET TO
10/01/09 10:48:53 STACK THE SCRAP METAL
10/01/09 10:48:53 EFFICIENTLY.
10/01/09 10:48:54 53RD IS ABOUT RIGHT HERE.
10/01/09 10:48:57 THIS WAY TO THE EAST OF 53RD
10/01/09 10:48:58 IS
10/01/09 10:49:00 WHERE THE 60-FOOT LIMITATION
10/01/09 10:49:01 WOULD BE APPLIED.
10/01/09 10:49:02 >> YOU'LL BE PUTTING A SOLID
10/01/09 10:49:04 FENCE AROUND THAT UH, WHERE THE
10/01/09 10:49:04 [INAUDIBLE]
10/01/09 10:49:08 DOWN ON
10/01/09 10:49:10 THE BOTTOM
10/01/09 10:49:10 LEFT-HAND CORNER?
10/01/09 10:49:13 >> MR.
10/01/09 10:49:15 ANTENORI LIVES HERE.
10/01/09 10:49:18 THE MOBILE HOME PARK WILL HAVE
10/01/09 10:49:19 AN 8-FOOT FENCE THERE.
10/01/09 10:49:22 WE PROPOSE TO PUT THE SAME
10/01/09 10:49:25 8-FOOT FENCE HERE.
10/01/09 10:49:27 FENCE, FENCE, FENCE, 60 FEET IN
10/01/09 10:49:28 THIS AREA.
10/01/09 10:49:31 15 FEET IN THIS AREA.
10/01/09 10:49:34 WE'RE CLOSING 53RD AS
10/01/09 10:49:37 ACCOMMODATION TO MR.
10/01/09 10:49:37 ANTENORI.
10/01/09 10:49:40 WE CLOSED 53RD AND MOVED TO
10/01/09 10:49:41 54TH.
10/01/09 10:49:43 I APOLOGIZE FOR THE EASTERN AREA
10/01/09 10:49:46 GETTING AWAY
10/01/09 10:49:47 FROM US.
10/01/09 10:49:50 >>
10/01/09 10:49:51 COUNCILWOMAN SAUL-SENA?
10/01/09 10:49:52 >> TWO ISSUES.
10/01/09 10:49:53 ONE WAS THAT FOLKS WOULDN'T
10/01/09 10:49:54 START BEFORE 7:00 A.M.
10/01/09 10:49:55 AND
10/01/09 10:49:58 SECONDLY THAT THERE'S BE TREES
10/01/09 10:50:00 PLANTED BEHIND THE 8-FOOT FENCES
10/01/09 10:50:01 AS AN ADDITIONAL BARRIER.
10/01/09 10:50:03 I KNOW YOU HAVE TO PLANT THE
10/01/09 10:50:04 TREES BECAUSE OF MITIGATION, CAN
10/01/09 10:50:07 YOU WRITE THOSE THINGS ON
10/01/09 10:50:08 YOUR
10/01/09 10:50:09 SITE PLAN.
10/01/09 10:50:12 >> I HAVE TO TALK TO MY CLIENT,
10/01/09 10:50:13 BUT WE'LL CONSIDER THEM.
10/01/09 10:50:16 I'LL ASK HER RIGHT NOW.
10/01/09 10:50:16 >> OKAY.
10/01/09 10:50:19 LET ME GATHER MY THOUGHTS FOR
10/01/09 10:50:21 A
10/01/09 10:50:21 SECOND.
10/01/09 10:50:22 >> UH, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WHILE
10/01/09 10:50:25 YOU'RE GATHERING YOUR THOUGHTS,
10/01/09 10:50:28 WE NEED TO MOVE.
10/01/09 10:50:31 >> LET ME SAY THIS, THE KIMMINS
10/01/09 10:50:32 COMPANY AND THE WILLIAMS FAMILY
10/01/09 10:50:34 CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN AN ASSET TO
10/01/09 10:50:35 THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10/01/09 10:50:36 THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
10/01/09 10:50:38 AS I LOOK IN VIEW OF THE PLAN
10/01/09 10:50:41 AND LOOK AT THE 30
10/01/09 10:50:43 OR SO ACRES
10/01/09 10:50:45 OR MAYBE MORE OR LESS, IT'S NOT
10/01/09 10:50:46 THAT IT'S A BAD LOCATION, IT'S
10/01/09 10:50:49 THAT IN MY OPINION IT IS A SMALL
10/01/09 10:50:51 LOCATION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO
10/01/09 10:50:54 FACILITY TO MAKE THIS
10/01/09 10:50:55 OPERATION
10/01/09 10:50:55 WORK.
10/01/09 10:50:56 WHEN WE DO THESE THINGS, I WISH
10/01/09 10:50:59 THIS THING WAS 60 ACRES, WE
10/01/09 10:51:01 WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM TODAY.
10/01/09 10:51:04 THE MOUNDS WOULDN'T BE 90 OR 60,
10/01/09 10:51:06 THEY'D BE 30.
10/01/09 10:51:08 I REMEMBER, HARBOR ISLAND, WHEN
10/01/09 10:51:10 IT WASN'T HARBOR ISLAND.
10/01/09 10:51:12 I REMEMBER DAVIS ISLAND, I USED
10/01/09 10:51:14 TO GET HUNDREDS OF CALLS WHEN
10/01/09 10:51:16 THE WIND WOULD BLOW EAST TO WEST
10/01/09 10:51:18 AND THE HOUSES THAT WERE PINK
10/01/09 10:51:20 AND GRAY WERE WHITE.
10/01/09 10:51:23 THE CARS THAT WERE BLACK WERE
10/01/09 10:51:23 WHITE.
10/01/09 10:51:24 I USED TELL THEM, THINK OF DATA
10/01/09 10:51:26 YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO SAVE
10/01/09 10:51:28 THAT ISLAND ONE DAY AND WE
10/01/09 10:51:30 DIDN'T HAVE THE $2.7 MILLION OR
10/01/09 10:51:32 WHATEVER IT WAS TO BUY IT.
10/01/09 10:51:35 THE LAST
10/01/09 10:51:37 LOT ON HARBOR ITEM.
10/01/09 10:51:38 I LIKE THIS IDEA, YOU HAVE TO
10/01/09 10:51:41 HAVE THIS IN A CITY OF
10/01/09 10:51:42 THIS
10/01/09 10:51:42 SIZE.
10/01/09 10:51:44 SO THIS CONJUNCTION WORK, I SAID
10/01/09 10:51:45 TO THE PEOPLE IN GROUP PARK.
10/01/09 10:51:49 THEY'RE
10/01/09 10:51:51 BRINGING THEIR STUFF IN
10/01/09 10:51:52 TO SELL.
10/01/09 10:51:53 THE CONFINEMENT OF IT IS TRYING
10/01/09 10:51:56 TO PUT A SUPER BOWL IN A LITTLE
10/01/09 10:51:57 LEAGUE PARK.
10/01/09 10:51:57 IT DOESN'T WORK.
10/01/09 10:51:59 YOU HAVE TO HAVE MORE LAND TO
10/01/09 10:52:00 MAKE THIS OPERATIONAL.
10/01/09 10:52:01 I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT TAKES.
10/01/09 10:52:04 IT'S JUST
10/01/09 10:52:06 TO ME THAT IF THESE
10/01/09 10:52:08 THINGS WERE 25 OR 30 FEET, I
10/01/09 10:52:10 COULD SAY NO PROBLEM, THEY CAN
10/01/09 10:52:12 BUILD A 10-FOOT WALL AND MAYBE
10/01/09 10:52:14 THE WIND WOULDN'T BE AS STRONG,
10/01/09 10:52:15 THE TREES WOULD BE IN FOUR OR
10/01/09 10:52:17 FIVE YEARS, GROWING TO THE SIDE
10/01/09 10:52:20 THAT WOULD BE NEEDED
10/01/09 10:52:22 TO HELP
10/01/09 10:52:23 STOP THIS.
10/01/09 10:52:24 BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN
10/01/09 10:52:26 SUPPORT IT THE WAY IT IS.
10/01/09 10:52:29 >> WHY DON'T WE TAKE A BREAK AND
10/01/09 10:52:30 RECOGNIZE--
10/01/09 10:52:33 >> LET ME RUN
10/01/09 10:52:36 THE MEETING
10/01/09 10:52:39 AND
10/01/09 10:52:42 UH, MR. GREENOFF TOO YOU WANT
10/01/09 10:52:43 A
10/01/09 10:52:44 CONTINUANCE?
10/01/09 10:52:45 >> WE CAN CONTINUE--
10/01/09 10:52:46 >> I WILL COME TO THAT IN A
10/01/09 10:52:47 MINUTE.
10/01/09 10:52:49 >> YOU DON'T WANT A CONTINUANCE?
10/01/09 10:52:50 >> WELL, I, I'D LIKE TO ANSWER
10/01/09 10:52:53 THE REST OF THE QUESTIONS AND
10/01/09 10:52:54 SEE IF THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS
10/01/09 10:52:57 TO BE ASKED
10/01/09 10:52:58 OF THE COUNCIL.
10/01/09 10:52:59 >> OKAY....
10/01/09 10:53:00 >> IF YOU PREFER US TO CONTINUE,
10/01/09 10:53:02 WE'D BE GLAD TO DO THAT.
10/01/09 10:53:03 >> IT SOUNDED LIKE THERE ARE
10/01/09 10:53:06 ISSUES TO BE WORKED
10/01/09 10:53:07 OUT.
10/01/09 10:53:08 IT'S YOUR CLIENT.
10/01/09 10:53:11 >> WELL, JUST
10/01/09 10:53:13 EXCUSE ME ONE
10/01/09 10:53:13 MOMENT.
10/01/09 10:53:15 >> OKAY, WHILE HE'S DOING THAT.
10/01/09 10:53:17 LET'S TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER 25.
10/01/09 10:53:20 CHIEF, STRAP SORRY TO
10/01/09 10:53:21 KEEP YOU
10/01/09 10:53:22 WAITING.
10/01/09 10:53:25 >> WE'LL CONTINUE FOR TWO WEEKS.
10/01/09 10:53:27 >> SO MOVED.
10/01/09 10:53:27 >> SECOND.
10/01/09 10:53:28 >> WHAT'S THE DATE ON THAT?
10/01/09 10:53:31 >> THE DATE WOULD BE OCTOBER
10/01/09 10:53:31 15TH UH...
10/01/09 10:53:34 DO YOU STILL
10/01/09 10:53:36 WANT
10/01/09 10:53:36 10:00.
10/01/09 10:53:37 >> 10:00.
10/01/09 10:53:38 THAT'S GOOD FOR YOU?
10/01/09 10:53:39 >> YES IT IS.
10/01/09 10:53:39 >> OKAY....
10/01/09 10:53:41 >> MOVED AND SECOND, ALL IN
10/01/09 10:53:45 FAVOR SIGNIFY
10/01/09 10:53:47 BY SAYING AYE?
10/01/09 10:53:48 >> AYE.
10/01/09 10:53:49 >> OPPOSES.
10/01/09 10:53:50 >> OKAY, CHIEF?
10/01/09 10:53:53 PICK UP ITEM 25?
10/01/09 10:53:54 THIS IS THE UM--
10/01/09 10:53:57 >> DO I NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN,
10/01/09 10:53:57 SIR?
10/01/09 10:54:00 >> NO, I THINK THIS FORMALITY
10/01/09 10:54:01 --OKAY.
10/01/09 10:54:03 YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING AND
10/01/09 10:54:06 I'LL ALLOW EACH COUNCIL MEMBER
10/01/09 10:54:07 TO GIVE REMARKS AFTERWARDS.
10/01/09 10:54:09 >> I'M JUST HERE THIS MORNING
10/01/09 10:54:11 ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN UH,
10/01/09 10:54:14 MY TAKING THE POSITION OF THE
10/01/09 10:54:16 CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE CITY OF
10/01/09 10:54:17 TAMPA.
10/01/09 10:54:18 IT'S OBVIOUSLY A GREAT HONOR FOR
10/01/09 10:54:20 ME TO BE ABLE TO LEAD THE BEST
10/01/09 10:54:21 POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE NATION
10/01/09 10:54:22 AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL OF
10/01/09 10:54:24 YOU FOR THE SUPPORT YOU'VE GIVEN
10/01/09 10:54:25 TO POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE PAST
10/01/09 10:54:28 AND LOOK FORWARD TO UH, THE SAME
10/01/09 10:54:31 OUTSTANDING
10/01/09 10:54:32 RELATIONSHIP IN THE
10/01/09 10:54:33 FUTURE.
10/01/09 10:54:36 >> OKAY, WE'LL START ON THE END
10/01/09 10:54:38 WITH COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER
10/01/09 10:54:38 COMING AROUND.
10/01/09 10:54:41 >> THANK YOU
10/01/09 10:54:42 MR. CHAIRMAN.
10/01/09 10:54:42 UM...
10/01/09 10:54:44 CHIEF UM, OR ASSISTANT
10/01/09 10:54:45 CHIEF.
10/01/09 10:54:47 >> SOON TO BE CHIEF, HOPEFULLY.
10/01/09 10:54:49 >> I THINK WE ALL WATCHED YOU
10/01/09 10:54:52 RISE UP THROUGH
10/01/09 10:54:53 THE RANKS.
10/01/09 10:54:55 AT EVERY PROMOTION LEVEL YOU'VE
10/01/09 10:54:57 CLEARLY EXCEEDED UH, YOU KNOW,
10/01/09 10:54:58 ALL STANDARDS AND EXPECTATIONS
10/01/09 10:55:01 AND, AND UH, AND WE APPRECIATE
10/01/09 10:55:01 YOUR SERVICE.
10/01/09 10:55:03 WE APPRECIATE UH, THE FACT
10/01/09 10:55:05 YOU'RE WILLING TO STICK YOUR
10/01/09 10:55:07 HEAD OUT THERE AND BE CHIEF
10/01/09 10:55:09 BECAUSE UH, IT'S A TOUGH JOB AND
10/01/09 10:55:12 WE KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE AT IT
10/01/09 10:55:14 24/7 UH, FOR AS MANY YEARS AS
10/01/09 10:55:17 YOU UH, HOPE TO DO IT.
10/01/09 10:55:17 SO...
10/01/09 10:55:20 I SUPPORT YOU
10/01/09 10:55:20 WHOLE-HEARTEDLY.
10/01/09 10:55:21 I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK.
10/01/09 10:55:22 >> THANK YOU SIR.
10/01/09 10:55:25 >> I THINK IS THIS
10/01/09 10:55:26 THE FIRST
10/01/09 10:55:27 ITEM I PULLED OFF THE AGENDA
10/01/09 10:55:30 THAT PEOPLE WERE HAPPY I PULLED
10/01/09 10:55:33 IT OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT
10/01/09 10:55:35 JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE YOUR
10/01/09 10:55:35 PROMOTION.
10/01/09 10:55:38 I THINK YOU ARE THE CHIEF
10/01/09 10:55:39 NOW
10/01/09 10:55:40 AREN'T YOU?
10/01/09 10:55:42 >> THIS IS ALMOST CHIEF SO
10/01/09 10:55:43 WELCOME, AND I JUST WANT YOU TO
10/01/09 10:55:44 KNOW THAT EVERY PERSON I'VE
10/01/09 10:55:47 TALKED TO IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10/01/09 10:55:49 SINCE THIS NEWS CAME OUT HAS HAD
10/01/09 10:55:52 NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS TO SAY
10/01/09 10:55:52 ABOUT YOU.
10/01/09 10:55:54 SO HOPEFULLY THAT CONTINUES AS
10/01/09 10:55:56 YOU'RE CHIEF AND UH, WE'RE JUST,
10/01/09 10:55:57 WE'RE JUST THRILLED AND I'M
10/01/09 10:55:59 PERSONALLY REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE
10/01/09 10:56:00 A WOMAN POLICE CHIEF.
10/01/09 10:56:04 >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE
10/01/09 10:56:04 THAT.
10/01/09 10:56:07 >> THANK YOU, AS I SPOKE
10/01/09 10:56:08 TO YOU
10/01/09 10:56:10 PRIORLY, I UH, A FORMER DEPUTY
10/01/09 10:56:12 CHIEF TOLD ME ONCE, ABOUT SIX
10/01/09 10:56:13 YEARS AGO, THAT YOU WOULD BE
10/01/09 10:56:15 CHIEF IN A COMING YEARS.
10/01/09 10:56:17 AND THAT INDIVIDUAL IS CORRECT.
10/01/09 10:56:19 I DON'T LOOK AT GENDER, RACE,
10/01/09 10:56:21 COLOR, CREED, I LOOK AT UH,
10/01/09 10:56:24 PEOPLE WHO ARE SET TO DO
10/01/09 10:56:25 THE
10/01/09 10:56:26 BEST JOB APPOINTED AND YOU
10/01/09 10:56:28 HAPPEN TO BE THAT PERSON.
10/01/09 10:56:31 I STAND BEHIND YOU, YOUR STAFF,
10/01/09 10:56:33 YOUR POLICE OFFICERS, I CAN TELL
10/01/09 10:56:35 YOU THAT UH, DEPUTY CHIEF
10/01/09 10:56:36 BENNETT DESERVES A MERIT OF
10/01/09 10:56:39 AWARD FOR HAVING TO GO THROUGH A
10/01/09 10:56:40 LONG DURATION THE OTHER NIGHT
10/01/09 10:56:41 AND HE WAS CALLED MAJOR FOR A
10/01/09 10:56:43 LONG TIME, AND AT THAT TIME,
10/01/09 10:56:45 MAYBE HE WAS A MAJOR.
10/01/09 10:56:47 BUT UH, ALL OF YOU, UH, I HAVE
10/01/09 10:56:50 LUNCH ONCE IN A WHILE.
10/01/09 10:56:52 SAME RESTAURANT THAT UH, DEPUTY
10/01/09 10:56:54 CHIEF HAMLIN GOES THROUGH AND
10/01/09 10:56:56 UH, IT'S A GREAT PLACE AND ALL
10/01/09 10:56:58 OF YOU DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
10/01/09 10:57:01 I DON'T THINK THERE'S A POLICE
10/01/09 10:57:04 DEPARTMENT, MAYBE IN THE COUNTRY
10/01/09 10:57:05 THAT'S HAD THE REACTION OF CRIME
10/01/09 10:57:07 THAT WE'VE HAD.
10/01/09 10:57:09 SO THAT'S AN ASSET, BUT IS ALSO
10/01/09 10:57:12 VERY HARD IN THE FUTURE TO
10/01/09 10:57:15 CONTINUE TO MATCH NUMBERS.
10/01/09 10:57:16 SO I HOPE AND PRAY THAT UH,
10/01/09 10:57:19 THOSE INDIVIDUALS OUT THERE WHO
10/01/09 10:57:20 ARE CRIMINALS STAY HOME AND
10/01/09 10:57:23 DON'T DO TOO MUCH
10/01/09 10:57:24 CAROUSING OUT
10/01/09 10:57:25 IN THE STREET.
10/01/09 10:57:27 YOU'LL BE AN OUTSTANDING CHIEF.
10/01/09 10:57:29 THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND
10/01/09 10:57:32 YOU'LL BE ONE OF THE BEST
10/01/09 10:57:33 CHIEFS
10/01/09 10:57:33 WE'VE HAD.
10/01/09 10:57:35 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
10/01/09 10:57:37 >> IT'S AN HONOR FOR ME.
10/01/09 10:57:40 YOU ARE A WOMAN, I'M A WOMAN.
10/01/09 10:57:40 I APPRECIATE THAT.
10/01/09 10:57:42 PASSING THE TORCH TO YOU, TO ME,
10/01/09 10:57:43 THE GREATEST POLICE DEPARTMENT
10/01/09 10:57:44 IN THE COUNTRY.
10/01/09 10:57:45 I KNOW YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO
10/01/09 10:57:47 LEAD IT AND BE THE BEST YOU CAN
10/01/09 10:57:50 BE, BECAUSE IT'S ALL YOU'VE BEEN
10/01/09 10:57:50 SINCE I KNOW YOU.
10/01/09 10:57:53 YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO A
10/01/09 10:57:53 GREAT JOB.
10/01/09 10:57:55 WE STAND BEHIND YOU 100%.
10/01/09 10:57:56 IF YOU NEED ANYTHING FROM ME, I
10/01/09 10:57:58 DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF
10/01/09 10:57:59 COUNCIL, I'LL BE THERE FOR YOU
10/01/09 10:58:01 TO HELP YOU IN ANY WAY I CAN.
10/01/09 10:58:02 CONTINUE TO DO THE GOOD WORK.
10/01/09 10:58:04 THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF
10/01/09 10:58:04 THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10/01/09 10:58:07 >> I WILL, THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10/01/09 10:58:09 >> I SHARE MY COLLEAGUE'S
10/01/09 10:58:09 PRAISE.
10/01/09 10:58:11 I'M SO HAPPY YOU'RE GOING TO BE
10/01/09 10:58:11 OUR CHIEF.
10/01/09 10:58:14 WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK CLOSELY
10/01/09 10:58:15 WITH YOU.
10/01/09 10:58:16 THANK ALL OF YOU.
10/01/09 10:58:17 >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10/01/09 10:58:18 >> THANK YOU.
10/01/09 10:58:21 >> I WAS IN BJS THE OTHER DAY
10/01/09 10:58:23 AND I SAW OUR FORMER CHIEF.
10/01/09 10:58:24 HE WAS HAPPY AS CAN BE.
10/01/09 10:58:27 IT WAS HIS FIRST DAY OUT AND HE
10/01/09 10:58:27 WAS SHOPPING.
10/01/09 10:58:29 HE WAS PROBABLY BUYING
10/01/09 10:58:30 GROCERIES.
10/01/09 10:58:31 HE WAS PROBABLY SENT THERE BY
10/01/09 10:58:33 HIS WIFE, BUT ANYWAY, I ONLY SEE
10/01/09 10:58:35 ONE WOMAN OUT THERE, DO YOU HAVE
10/01/09 10:58:38 MORE WOMEN THAT YOU'RE GOING TO
10/01/09 10:58:40 BE PROMOTING?
10/01/09 10:58:40 >> YES, SIR.
10/01/09 10:58:41 OUR DEPARTMENT IS VERY
10/01/09 10:58:43 REFLECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY WE
10/01/09 10:58:43 SERVE.
10/01/09 10:58:47 >> I'M PROUD OF YOU AND PROUD OF
10/01/09 10:58:47 OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10/01/09 10:58:48 >> THANK YOU.
10/01/09 10:58:50 >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10/01/09 10:58:52 >> WELL, CHIEF UM, LET ME JUST
10/01/09 10:58:55 SAY, THIS IS A GOOD DAY, IT'S A
10/01/09 10:58:58 HISTORICAL MOMENT, UH,
10/01/09 10:58:58 FOR
10/01/09 10:59:01 TAMPA, BUT
10/01/09 10:59:04 MORE IMPORTANT TO ME,
10/01/09 10:59:06 YOU ROSE TO WHERE YOU ARE, NOT
10/01/09 10:59:07 NECESSARILY BECAUSE YOU'RE
10/01/09 10:59:09 FEMALE, BUT BECAUSE YOU HAVE
10/01/09 10:59:10 ABILITY AND CAPABILITY.
10/01/09 10:59:11 IT'S BECAUSE OF YOUR
10/01/09 10:59:14 PROFESSIONALISM AND BECAUSE
10/01/09 10:59:15 YOU
10/01/09 10:59:15 WORK HARD.
10/01/09 10:59:17 GOOD WORK ETHICS AND BECAUSE OF
10/01/09 10:59:19 THAT, YOU WILL BECOME CHIEF OF
10/01/09 10:59:22 POLICE FOR THE STATE
10/01/09 10:59:27 OF TAMPA.
10/01/09 10:59:45 I HOPE AS
10/01/09 10:59:46 YOU MOVE FORWARD,
10/01/09 10:59:49 DIVERSITY IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR
10/01/09 10:59:50 COMMUNITY.
10/01/09 10:59:51 WE'RE CERTAIN YOU'LL CONTINUE TO
10/01/09 10:59:54 PROMOTE THAT KIND OF DIVERSITY
10/01/09 10:59:54 IN YOUR DEPARTMENT.
10/01/09 10:59:55 CONGRATULATIONS AND WE ARE HERE
10/01/09 10:59:58 UH,
10/01/09 11:00:01 TO OFFER OUR SUPPORT AND UH,
10/01/09 11:00:04 FOR YOU, ANYTHING WE CAN
10/01/09 11:00:04 DO.
10/01/09 11:00:06 AGAIN, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT
10/01/09 11:00:07 UM, MY PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU AND
10/01/09 11:00:10 NOT ONLY YOU, BUT YOUR ENTIRE
10/01/09 11:00:10 STAFF.
10/01/09 11:00:11 THOSE OFFICERS WHO ARE OUT ON
10/01/09 11:00:12 THE STREET.
10/01/09 11:00:13 BECAUSE EVERY DAY THEY'RE
10/01/09 11:00:16 PUTTING THEIR LIVES LINE FOR
10/01/09 11:00:16 US.
10/01/09 11:00:17 AND FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
10/01/09 11:00:18 THAT SAYS A LOT.
10/01/09 11:00:21 THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
10/01/09 11:00:22 ENTIRE STAFF.
10/01/09 11:00:23 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IT'D BE MY
10/01/09 11:00:25 HONOR TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10/01/09 11:00:28 >> I WAS GOING
10/01/09 11:00:29 TO HAVE UH--
10/01/09 11:00:32 >>
10/01/09 11:00:34 IT'S IN MY DEPARTMENT.
10/01/09 11:00:36 >> UH...
10/01/09 11:00:38 I'M GOING TO CALL
10/01/09 11:00:40 CHIEF, IT IS A PLEASURE IN MY
10/01/09 11:00:41 HONOR TO MOVE THIS RESOLUTION TO
10/01/09 11:00:44 MAKE YOU THE
10/01/09 11:00:46 CHIEF OF THE TAMPA
10/01/09 11:00:46 THE GREATEST POLICE DEPARTMENT
10/01/09 11:00:47 IN THE COUNTRY.
10/01/09 11:00:50 >> MOVED BY COUNCIL WOMAN
10/01/09 11:00:51 MILLER
10/01/09 11:00:53 AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
10/01/09 11:00:54 DINGFELDER.
10/01/09 11:00:57 ALL IN FAVOR SAY
10/01/09 11:00:58 AYE.
10/01/09 11:00:58 >> AYE.
10/01/09 11:00:59 >> OPPOSES?
10/01/09 11:01:00 >> CONGRATULATIONS.
10/01/09 11:01:00 [APPLAUSE]
10/01/09 11:01:08 >> THANK YOU, AGAIN.
10/01/09 11:01:09 THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
10/01/09 11:01:10 I APPRECIATE IT.
10/01/09 11:01:11 >> GOD BLESS YOU, HAVE A GREAT
10/01/09 11:01:12 DAY.
10/01/09 11:01:18 >> CHAIRMAN --YOU WANT TO TAKE
10/01/09 11:01:19 UP ITEM 94?
10/01/09 11:01:22 >> ITEM 94 AT THIS
10/01/09 11:01:25 TIME.
10/01/09 11:01:26 THIS REQUIRES A VOTE.
10/01/09 11:01:32 >> THE MOTION TO UH,
10/01/09 11:01:33 REGARDING
10/01/09 11:01:36 THE FACADE PROGRAM WAS MADE
10/01/09 11:01:37 BY
10/01/09 11:01:40 UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MILLER,
10/01/09 11:01:43 SECONDED
10/01/09 11:01:46 BY CAETANO.
10/01/09 11:01:48 THE MOTION WASN'T ADOPTED WITH
10/01/09 11:01:52 UH, COUNCIL MEMBERER SAUL-SENA
10/01/09 11:01:54 VOTING NO.
10/01/09 11:01:57 IT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY UH, WITH
10/01/09 11:01:59 THE UH, MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO
10/01/09 11:02:01 MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10/01/09 11:02:03 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE
10/01/09 11:02:04 RESOLUTION 94.
10/01/09 11:02:05 >> SECOND.
10/01/09 11:02:06 >> YES, COUNCIL WOMAN.
10/01/09 11:02:07 >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
10/01/09 11:02:10 I TALKED WITH MR. PARDONK I WAS
10/01/09 11:02:12 SHARING MY CONCERNS ON HOW MUCH
10/01/09 11:02:13 WE WERE SPENDING ON
10/01/09 11:02:14 ADMINISTRATION FOR THIS.
10/01/09 11:02:16 THE COMMITMENT WE'VE MADE TO
10/01/09 11:02:17 SPEND THE MONEY ISN'T UP FRONT,
10/01/09 11:02:19 IT'S AFTER THEY DO THINGS IN THE
10/01/09 11:02:22 AMOUNT PER ACTION
10/01/09 11:02:25 SEEMS
10/01/09 11:02:26 PRETTY
10/01/09 11:02:26 REASONABLE.
10/01/09 11:02:30 HE SHARED SOMETHING
10/01/09 11:02:31 THAT WAS
10/01/09 11:02:31 SHOCKING.
10/01/09 11:02:34 THERE'S SOME WEIRD DEFAULT
10/01/09 11:02:35 MECHANISM.
10/01/09 11:02:37 MR. HUEY CAN SPEAK TO THIS.
10/01/09 11:02:40 EVEN IF THE MONEY IS HANDLED
10/01/09 11:02:42 COMPLETELY BY THE CRA DISTRICT
10/01/09 11:02:45 IN QUESTION, THERE'S STILL A
10/01/09 11:02:46 12
10/01/09 11:02:48 OR 13% FEE THAT'S CHARGED TO THE
10/01/09 11:02:49 DEPARTMENT FOR ADMINISTRATION BY
10/01/09 11:02:51 THE CITY EVEN IF CITY PEOPLE
10/01/09 11:02:53 AREN'T DOING THIS THING.
10/01/09 11:02:54 AND AUDITING IT.
10/01/09 11:02:57 EVEN IF IT'S SORT OF DONE AS AN
10/01/09 11:02:57 OUTSOURCING THING.
10/01/09 11:02:59 SO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE
10/01/09 11:03:01 SPENDING ON THE UM, PROPOSAL
10/01/09 11:03:03 BEFORE US, THE INDIVIDUAL TO UH,
10/01/09 11:03:05 YOU KNOW, AUDIT THE FACADE
10/01/09 11:03:07 PROGRAM AND MAKE IT HAPPEN, IT'S
10/01/09 11:03:10 ACTUALLY LESS THAN THE DEFAULT
10/01/09 11:03:11 THAT WE'RE BEING CHARGED.
10/01/09 11:03:13 SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, BUT
10/01/09 11:03:15 I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE
10/01/09 11:03:17 DEFAULT 12 OR 13%.
10/01/09 11:03:19 AND I, OUR NEXT CRA MEETING, I'D
10/01/09 11:03:21 LIKE TO HAVE AN EXPLANATION.
10/01/09 11:03:24 IT'S NOT THE CRA STAFF
10/01/09 11:03:25 THAT'S
10/01/09 11:03:27 DOING THIS DEFAULTING, IT'S OUR
10/01/09 11:03:28 REGULAR CITY ADMINISTRATION.
10/01/09 11:03:30 I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD BRING
10/01/09 11:03:32 IT UP UNDER CRA OR REGULAR CITY
10/01/09 11:03:34 COUNCIL MEETING, BUT I WAS
10/01/09 11:03:36 APPALLED TO HEAR THE OUR
10/01/09 11:03:38 CRA PROJECTS ARE BEING
10/01/09 11:03:38 INAPPROPRIATELY SURVEILLANCE
10/01/09 11:03:40 CHARGED THAT AMOUNT FOR
10/01/09 11:03:43 ADMINISTRATION THAT ISN'T
10/01/09 11:03:46 NECESSARILY TAKING
10/01/09 11:03:50 PLACE.
10/01/09 11:03:53 >> OKAY, COUNSEL
10/01/09 11:03:56 CILWOMAN
10/01/09 11:03:56 MULHERN?
10/01/09 11:03:57 >> PHILOSOPHICALLY IN THIS,
10/01/09 11:03:59 ESPECIALLY IN THIS BAD ECONOMY,
10/01/09 11:04:00 UM...
10/01/09 11:04:01 I, I DO NOT SUPPORT
10/01/09 11:04:04 SPENDING THAT KIND OF
10/01/09 11:04:07 MONEY
10/01/09 11:04:08 ON
10/01/09 11:04:09 UH, ADMINISTRATION WHEN
10/01/09 11:04:11 APPARENTLY WE'RE PAYING OUR
10/01/09 11:04:13 CRA STAFF TO ADMINISTER AND NOW
10/01/09 11:04:17 WE'RE ALSO PAYING UM, YOU KNOW,
10/01/09 11:04:19 ALSO GOING, MONEY'S ALSO GOING
10/01/09 11:04:21 TO UH, UH, OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
10/01/09 11:04:24 AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT
10/01/09 11:04:24 OUT
10/01/09 11:04:26 THAT UH, WE DID HAVE THAT REPORT
10/01/09 11:04:29 TODAY, APPARENTLY THAT 700-PAGE
10/01/09 11:04:32 REPORT THAT WE GOT, YESTERDAY,
10/01/09 11:04:35 ONLINE, UM, HAS TO DO
10/01/09 11:04:36 WITH THESE
10/01/09 11:04:37 TRANSFERS BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS
10/01/09 11:04:39 AND IN ACCOUNTING WHICH
10/01/09 11:04:40 APPARENTLY WE GET EVERY YEAR,
10/01/09 11:04:42 WHICH I DON'T REMEMBER EVER
10/01/09 11:04:44 GETTING A 700-PAGE REPORT IN
10/01/09 11:04:46 ANOTHER YEAR, BUT MAYBE WE DID.
10/01/09 11:04:49 MY POINT IS THAT YOU MAY,
10/01/09 11:04:50 IF
10/01/09 11:04:51 WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE
10/01/09 11:04:53 SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON THIS
10/01/09 11:04:55 SORT OF THING AND UH, I JUST
10/01/09 11:04:59 DON'T THINK I WANT TO SEE
10/01/09 11:05:01 CRA MONEY SPENT ON ACTUAL WORK
10/01/09 11:05:04 IN THE CRA DISTRICTS, NOT
10/01/09 11:05:06 ON
10/01/09 11:05:07 CONTRACTS FOR ADMINISTRATION,
10/01/09 11:05:10 UM, AND THE COMPUTER GLITCH IS
10/01/09 11:05:12 NOT UM, AN EXCUSE FOR THAT.
10/01/09 11:05:13 I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING, WE'RE NOT
10/01/09 11:05:16 TALKING ABOUT A HUGE NUMBER OF
10/01/09 11:05:16 PROJECTS.
10/01/09 11:05:18 THERE'S, THERE'S UH, THAT SOUNDS
10/01/09 11:05:20 LIKE THAT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE
10/01/09 11:05:21 POLICY DECISION THAT WAS MADE TO
10/01/09 11:05:23 CHARGE DEPARTMENTS, OR TO CHARGE
10/01/09 11:05:26 THE CRA DISTRICTS
10/01/09 11:05:28 A PERCENTAGE
10/01/09 11:05:30 AND THE COMPUTER DOESN'T DO
10/01/09 11:05:30 THAT.
10/01/09 11:05:31 SOMEONE MADE THAT DECISION.
10/01/09 11:05:35 SO I'M NOT GOING
10/01/09 11:05:36 SUPPORT THIS.
10/01/09 11:05:38 >> THANK YOU, ACTUALLY I'VE
10/01/09 11:05:39 RECONSIDERED MY VOTE AFTER
10/01/09 11:05:42 READING THE FINE
10/01/09 11:05:45 PRINT OF
10/01/09 11:05:47 THIS
10/01/09 11:05:48 PROPOSITION.
10/01/09 11:05:50 MAINLY AGAIN, AS LINDA SAID,
10/01/09 11:05:52 $98,000, WHERE DO I PLOT?
10/01/09 11:05:53 BUT INSTEAD, WHAT IT IS, IN
10/01/09 11:05:56 READING THE FINE PRINT IT SAYS
10/01/09 11:05:58 IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND WANTS A
10/01/09 11:06:01 FACADE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE
10/01/09 11:06:02 SOMEBODY SUPERVISES THAT
10/01/09 11:06:03 PROCESS.
10/01/09 11:06:04 WHETHER STAFF OR CONTRACTOR.
10/01/09 11:06:05 WE'LL GO AHEAD AND USE A
10/01/09 11:06:06 CONTRACTOR, IT'S NOT A HUGE
10/01/09 11:06:08 AMOUNT OF MONEY PER PROJECT.
10/01/09 11:06:11 IT LOOKS LIKE 1,000 TO $1500 PER
10/01/09 11:06:12 PROJECT.
10/01/09 11:06:15 I THINK ON THAT BASIS, I CAN
10/01/09 11:06:17 COMPLETELY SUPPORT IT.
10/01/09 11:06:18 SOMEBODY'S GOTTA SUPERVISE IT
10/01/09 11:06:20 AND WE NEED THE FACADE.
10/01/09 11:06:23 >> MOTION, MOVED AND SECOND
10/01/09 11:06:24 MOVE
10/01/09 11:06:27 BY COUNCILWOMAN MILLER AND
10/01/09 11:06:30 SECOND BY
10/01/09 11:06:30 SAUL-SENA.
10/01/09 11:06:33 SIGNIFICANT BY SAYING AYE.
10/01/09 11:06:34 >> OPPOSES?
10/01/09 11:06:34 >> NAY.
10/01/09 11:06:36 >> BECAUSE THIS IS AN
10/01/09 11:06:37 ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION RATHER
10/01/09 11:06:39 THAN A CRA FUNCTION, I THINK THE
10/01/09 11:06:42 APPROPRIATE TIME TO ASK IS AT
10/01/09 11:06:44 A
10/01/09 11:06:45 COUNCIL MEETING.
10/01/09 11:06:47 I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR A REPORT IN
10/01/09 11:06:48 30 DAYS FROM THE ADMINISTRATION,
10/01/09 11:06:51 THEY'D WORK WITH MR. PARDO AND
10/01/09 11:06:54 MR. HUEY ON THE DEFAULT CHARGE
10/01/09 11:06:55 OF ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS AGAINST
10/01/09 11:06:57 PROJECTS THAT DON'T ACTUALLY GO
10/01/09 11:06:58 THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATION.
10/01/09 11:07:00 SO I'D LIKE UH, STAFF TO APPEAR
10/01/09 11:07:04 AND PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT TO
10/01/09 11:07:04 ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.
10/01/09 11:07:05 >> SECOND.
10/01/09 11:07:08 >> HOW MANY DAYS?
10/01/09 11:07:09 >> 30 DAYS.
10/01/09 11:07:10 >> NOVEMBER 5TH.
10/01/09 11:07:11 >> NOVEMBER 5TH.
10/01/09 11:07:12 >> MOVED AND SECOND, ALL IN
10/01/09 11:07:14 FAVOR SAY AYE.
10/01/09 11:07:16 >> AYE.
10/01/09 11:07:17 >> OPPOSES?
10/01/09 11:07:18 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, ON THE PREVIOUS
10/01/09 11:07:21 MOTION TO ADOPT ITEM NUMBER
10/01/09 11:07:27 94
10/01/09 11:07:30 WAS CARRIED WITH
10/01/09 11:07:32 MULHERN VOTING
10/01/09 11:07:33 NO.
10/01/09 11:07:36 >> I'LL MOVE THE ITEM BUT I, I
10/01/09 11:07:39 THOUGHT I WAS MOVING --I THINK
10/01/09 11:07:41 I --DIDN'T I?
10/01/09 11:07:42 >> SHE DID MOVE IT.
10/01/09 11:07:44 >> I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS
10/01/09 11:07:46 OPPORTUNITY, SINCE UH, COUNCIL
10/01/09 11:07:47 WOMAN SAUL-SENA BROUGHT UP IS
10/01/09 11:07:50 RELATED TO THIS QUESTION THAT WE
10/01/09 11:07:52 GET UP, A STAFF REPORT MAYBE ON
10/01/09 11:07:56 THE SAME DATE UM, ABOUT
10/01/09 11:07:57 THE
10/01/09 11:08:00 REPORT ON THE
10/01/09 11:08:03 YOU KNOW,
10/01/09 11:08:04 INTERDEPARTMENTAL 700-PAGE
10/01/09 11:08:05 REPORT.
10/01/09 11:08:08 JUST AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY FROM
10/01/09 11:08:12 MR. HOFFSTETLER.
10/01/09 11:08:14 >> THAT MOTION IS FOR NOVEMBER
10/01/09 11:08:16 5TH AT THE SAME TIME.
10/01/09 11:08:17 ANOTHER REPORT.
10/01/09 11:08:20 SECOND BY COUNCIL WOMAN
10/01/09 11:08:21 SAUL-SENA.
10/01/09 11:08:24 SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
10/01/09 11:08:25 >> AYE.
10/01/09 11:08:26 >> OPPOSES?
10/01/09 11:08:29 >>
10/01/09 11:08:31 OKAY, ITEM 88.
10/01/09 11:08:32 ITEM 88?
10/01/09 11:08:38 >> GOOD MORNING, MARK
10/01/09 11:08:39 HUEY,
10/01/09 11:08:40 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
10/01/09 11:08:41 ADMINISTRATOR.
10/01/09 11:08:43 I'M HERE TO UH, RESPOND TO YOUR
10/01/09 11:08:45 INQUIRY ABOUT ITEM 88, JUST HAS
10/01/09 11:08:47 TO DO WITH OUR EAST TAMPA
10/01/09 11:08:49 COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA AND
10/01/09 11:08:50 SOME REDEVELOPMENT WORK WE'RE
10/01/09 11:08:52 DOING THERE, AT THE UH,
10/01/09 11:08:55 INTERSECTION OF 34TH STREET AND
10/01/09 11:08:56 OSBORNE.
10/01/09 11:08:57 THE CITY HAS PROPERTY,
10/01/09 11:08:58 CITY-OWNED PROPERTY THAT IT
10/01/09 11:09:02 WOULD ONE-DAY LIKE
10/01/09 11:09:05 TO SEE
10/01/09 11:09:06 REDAEFLD.
10/01/09 11:09:08 SOME UH, APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS
10/01/09 11:09:12 AGO WE WENT THROUGH THE
10/01/09 11:09:12 PROCESS.
10/01/09 11:09:13 ASSOCIATION WON THAT RFP PROCESS
10/01/09 11:09:15 AND HAS BEEN WORKING SINCE THEN
10/01/09 11:09:17 TO BRING A POSITIVE
10/01/09 11:09:18 REDEVELOPMENT TO THAT PART OF
10/01/09 11:09:19 EAST TAMPA.
10/01/09 11:09:20 THEY CURRENTLY HAVE AN IDEA OF
10/01/09 11:09:23 DOING A MEDICAL UH, PART AND ARE
10/01/09 11:09:25 WORKING VERY HARD TO MAKE THAT
10/01/09 11:09:28 HAPPEN AND WE HOPE THAT THEY DO.
10/01/09 11:09:28 UM...
10/01/09 11:09:30 IN OUR WORK ON THAT
10/01/09 11:09:33 PROJECT, UH, IT HAS COME TO OUR
10/01/09 11:09:34 ATTENTION THAT ADJOINING
10/01/09 11:09:37 PROPERTY IS AVAILABLE TO BE
10/01/09 11:09:37 ACQUIRED.
10/01/09 11:09:40 AND AGAIN, NOT KNOWING UH, ON
10/01/09 11:09:43 WHAT BASIS THE MEDICAL PART
10/01/09 11:09:44 MIGHT GO FORWARD, WE BELIEVE
10/01/09 11:09:46 ACQUIRING THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE
10/01/09 11:09:47 GOOD FOR ENHANCING THE VALUE OF
10/01/09 11:09:49 THE EXISTING CITY OF REAL
10/01/09 11:09:50 ESTATE.
10/01/09 11:09:52 SO WE ARE IN FACT UH, MOVING
10/01/09 11:09:53 FORWARD ON THAT, UH, THROUGH THE
10/01/09 11:09:55 REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT IN OUR
10/01/09 11:09:57 NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS.
10/01/09 11:10:00 AND WE ARE UNDER NEGOTIATIONS
10/01/09 11:10:01 WITH THAT PROPERTY OWNER AND
10/01/09 11:10:04 HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO
10/01/09 11:10:05 PUT
10/01/09 11:10:06 THAT UNDER CONTRACT.
10/01/09 11:10:07 AGAIN, WITH THE PURPOSE OF
10/01/09 11:10:09 ENHANCING THE VALUE OF OUR
10/01/09 11:10:09 EXISTING CITY-OWNED PROPERTY
10/01/09 11:10:10 THERE.
10/01/09 11:10:11 >> OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS?
10/01/09 11:10:13 >> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION
10/01/09 11:10:15 THAT THE CITY CONTINUE TO WORK
10/01/09 11:10:18 WITH THE EAST TAMPA ASSOCIATION
10/01/09 11:10:19 TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
10/01/09 11:10:20 >> SECOND.
10/01/09 11:10:23 >> I, I RESPECT THE MOTION
10/01/09 11:10:26 THAT'S BEING MADE, JUST A
10/01/09 11:10:27 CAUTION, COUNCIL THAT THE
10/01/09 11:10:31 CHARTER, SPECIFICALLY
10/01/09 11:10:31 REGARDS
10/01/09 11:10:34 THE NEGOTIATION OF CONTRACTS TO
10/01/09 11:10:35 THE ADMINISTRATION--
10/01/09 11:10:38 >> HOW ABOUT ENCOURAGE THE
10/01/09 11:10:43 ADMINISTRATION--
10/01/09 11:10:44 >> CONTINUE ----
10/01/09 11:10:45 >> THANK YOU.
10/01/09 11:10:47 >> YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL.
10/01/09 11:10:49 I BELIEVE THERE'S A STATE LAW IN
10/01/09 11:10:51 PLACE THAT WHAT MR. HUEY JUST
10/01/09 11:10:53 APPLIES CAN BE DONE.
10/01/09 11:10:55 HOWEVER IF YOU START TO TALK
10/01/09 11:10:59 ABOUT BUYING LAND TO ENHANCE
10/01/09 11:10:59 A
10/01/09 11:11:01 PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, THEN IT
10/01/09 11:11:02 CANNOT BE DONE.
10/01/09 11:11:03 LET ME GET THAT CLARIFIED.
10/01/09 11:11:06 I BELIEVE I'M RIGHT, BUT I'M NOT
10/01/09 11:11:07 SURE.
10/01/09 11:11:09 SECONDLY, I CERTAINLY WANT TO
10/01/09 11:11:12 SEE THINGS DEVELOPED ALL OVER
10/01/09 11:11:13 THE CITY.
10/01/09 11:11:16 THAT BEING SAID, MY HEART IS
10/01/09 11:11:19 LIBERAL,
10/01/09 11:11:19 MY MIND IS
10/01/09 11:11:20 CONSERVATIVE.
10/01/09 11:11:22 AT THAT TIME THAT THE
10/01/09 11:11:25 ADMINISTRATION COMES AND MAKES A
10/01/09 11:11:29 DETERMINATION OF WHOMEVER'S
10/01/09 11:11:31 GOING TO GO THERE.
10/01/09 11:11:33 THESE THINGS ARE WORKED OUT.
10/01/09 11:11:36 THE TAXPAYERS ARE NOT
10/01/09 11:11:38 LEFT
10/01/09 11:11:38 HOLDING ANY BACK.
10/01/09 11:11:40 THEY HAVE COMMITMENTS AND I'VE
10/01/09 11:11:42 BEEN MULLING THIS FOR A LONG
10/01/09 11:11:42 TIME.
10/01/09 11:11:44 THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE
10/01/09 11:11:46 SOMETHING AWAY, FOR BETTERMENT
10/01/09 11:11:48 OF ALL OF SOCIETY, THEN I
10/01/09 11:11:50 BELIEVE THAT THE DIRECTORS OF
10/01/09 11:11:51 THAT ORGANIZATION, I'M NOT
10/01/09 11:11:53 SPECIFICALLY SPEAKING ABOUT THIS
10/01/09 11:11:56 ONE, HAVE TO SIGN ON AND SAY
10/01/09 11:11:58 THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DEBT
10/01/09 11:11:59 THAT THEY INCUR SO THAT THE
10/01/09 11:12:03 TAXPAYERS WILL NOT BE HELD
10/01/09 11:12:05 RESPONSIBLE LIKE IT'S HAPPENED
10/01/09 11:12:07 IN THE PAST.
10/01/09 11:12:09 AND THAT'S, THAT'S, I'M JUST
10/01/09 11:12:10 THROWING IT OUT.
10/01/09 11:12:13 >> I AGREE WITH YOU.
10/01/09 11:12:14 THAT'S HOW I BELIEVE.
10/01/09 11:12:16 I'M NOT AGAINST ANY PROJECT
10/01/09 11:12:17 ANYWHERE TO CREATE EMPLOYMENT,
10/01/09 11:12:18 TO HAVE FACILITIES THAT ARE
10/01/09 11:12:19 NEEDED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
10/01/09 11:12:23 IN THE
10/01/09 11:12:23 CITY.
10/01/09 11:12:26 >> MOTION AS UM, THE CURRENT
10/01/09 11:12:29 ADMINISTRATION IN EAST TAMPA.
10/01/09 11:12:32 MOVE AND SECOND ALL IN FAVOR
10/01/09 11:12:35 SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
10/01/09 11:12:36 >> AYE.
10/01/09 11:12:39 >> 89 IS A CONTINUOUS REQUEST
10/01/09 11:12:39 BY
10/01/09 11:12:41 I CITY ATTORNEY.
10/01/09 11:12:44 ALL RIGHT
10/01/09 11:12:47 BEEN CONTINUED.
10/01/09 11:12:48 >> ITEM 90?
10/01/09 11:12:57 >> GOOD
10/01/09 11:13:02 MORNING OF COUNCIL.
10/01/09 11:13:04 I'M HERE TO DISCUSS THE ACTION
10/01/09 11:13:07 AT THE ADDRESS
10/01/09 11:13:10 OF 6320
10/01/09 11:13:10 SOUTH
10/01/09 11:13:11 ADELIA AVENUE.
10/01/09 11:13:12 CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN
10/01/09 11:13:13 INVOLVED WITH THIS ACTIVELY FOR
10/01/09 11:13:17 THE LAST SIX
10/01/09 11:13:17 MONTHS.
10/01/09 11:13:20 WE HAVE UH, WE'VE ISSUED
10/01/09 11:13:20 NOTICE
10/01/09 11:13:22 ON FOUR, ACTUALLY DIFFERENT
10/01/09 11:13:25 OCCASIONS AND IN, IN THOSE, IN
10/01/09 11:13:27 ALL OF THOSE INCIDENTS THEY HAVE
10/01/09 11:13:28 COME INTO COMPLIANCE.
10/01/09 11:13:30 I HAVE A COUPLE OF ACTUALLY
10/01/09 11:13:32 PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE BOAT IN THE
10/01/09 11:13:34 PONTOON BOAT THAT I'D LIKE TO
10/01/09 11:13:37 SHOW YOU SO
10/01/09 11:13:40 YOU HAVE AN
10/01/09 11:13:42 IDEA.
10/01/09 11:13:44 WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
10/01/09 11:13:45 YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PONTOON
10/01/09 11:13:48 BOAT IS PARKED IN THE DRIVEWAY.
10/01/09 11:13:51 IT'S, IT'S, I DON'T KNOW THE
10/01/09 11:13:52 EXACT UH, DIMENSIONS, BUT YOU
10/01/09 11:13:55 CAN SEE THAT
10/01/09 11:13:58 IT IS FAIRLY LARGE.
10/01/09 11:14:03 THIS SHOWS ANOTHER PICTURE.
10/01/09 11:14:05 THESE PHOTOGRAPHS WERE SUPPLIED
10/01/09 11:14:08 TO ME BY MR.
10/01/09 11:14:09 MOROWSKI WHEN HE
10/01/09 11:14:11 CAME TO MY OFFICE IN JULY.
10/01/09 11:14:17 JUST ON ONE
10/01/09 11:14:19 OCCASION, IN
10/01/09 11:14:20 AUGUST, AUGUST 8TH.
10/01/09 11:14:22 WE WERE, I THINK, I THINK THAT
10/01/09 11:14:24 WAS A SATURDAY, WE WERE THERE
10/01/09 11:14:28 AND UH, 8:30 A.M.
10/01/09 11:14:29 NO VIOLATIONS
10/01/09 11:14:29 OBSERVED.
10/01/09 11:14:32 ON THE SAME DAY WE WERE THERE
10/01/09 11:14:34 AT
10/01/09 11:14:36 12:20 HOURS P.M.
10/01/09 11:14:37 NO VIOLATIONS
10/01/09 11:14:38 OBSERVED.
10/01/09 11:14:39 WE WERE THERE AT 3:10:00 P.M.
10/01/09 11:14:41 AND NO VIOLATIONS OBSERVED.
10/01/09 11:14:44 ON THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND, AUGUST
10/01/09 11:14:44 15TH.
10/01/09 11:14:47 WE WERE THERE AT 12:10:00
10/01/09 11:14:49 P.M.,
10/01/09 11:14:50 NO VIOLATIONS OBSERVED.
10/01/09 11:14:53 SAME DAY, 3:55 HOURS, NO
10/01/09 11:14:54 VIOLATIONS OBSERVED.
10/01/09 11:14:55 ON THAT SAME EVENING, QUARTER OF
10/01/09 11:14:58 8:00 P.M., THE BOAT WAS IN THE
10/01/09 11:15:02 YARD.
10/01/09 11:15:03 IT WAS COVERED.
10/01/09 11:15:09 IT WAS PARKED
10/01/09 11:15:11 IN THE YARD.
10/01/09 11:15:13 WE WENT BACK ON AUGUST 17TH, ON
10/01/09 11:15:14 A MONDAY.
10/01/09 11:15:17 THE BOAT
10/01/09 11:15:19 WAS MOVED.
10/01/09 11:15:20 NO VIOLATIONS OBSERVED.
10/01/09 11:15:23 I'VE TRIED TO EXPLAIN THE CODE
10/01/09 11:15:26 TO UH, MR. MAROWSKI THAT THE
10/01/09 11:15:29 OWNER OF THE BOAT HAS
10/01/09 11:15:30 A 24-HOUR
10/01/09 11:15:32 PERIOD TO LOAD AND UNLOAD.
10/01/09 11:15:34 I'VE TRIED TO TELL HIM THAT
10/01/09 11:15:35 NUMEROUS TIMES.
10/01/09 11:15:38 HE'S CALLED OUR OFFICE UH,
10/01/09 11:15:40 ON A
10/01/09 11:15:40 REGULAR BASIS.
10/01/09 11:15:42 HE'S CALLED THE INSPECTORS ON
10/01/09 11:15:44 THE WEEKENDS, SATURDAY AND
10/01/09 11:15:46 SUNDAY EVENING SAYING THAT THE
10/01/09 11:15:47 PONTOON BOAT'S BACK.
10/01/09 11:15:48 WE GO AND CHECK ON MONDAY
10/01/09 11:15:51 MORNING AND
10/01/09 11:15:54 THE BOAT IS
10/01/09 11:15:55 GONE.
10/01/09 11:15:58 THE CODE THAT APPLIES
10/01/09 11:16:01 IS
10/01/09 11:16:02 UNDER
10/01/09 11:16:05 CHAPTER 27,
10/01/09 11:16:07 129 SUBSECTION TWO.
10/01/09 11:16:09 PARKING IS PERMITTED ANYWHERE ON
10/01/09 11:16:12 THE LOT FOR LOADING AND
10/01/09 11:16:14 UNLOADING PURPOSES FOR A PERIOD
10/01/09 11:16:15 NOT EXCEEDING 24 HOURS.
10/01/09 11:16:17 I CAN TELL YOU CODE ENFORCEMENT
10/01/09 11:16:18 HAS BEEN DOWN THERE.
10/01/09 11:16:20 WE'VE BEEN DOWN THERE FOR THE
10/01/09 11:16:21 PAST SIX MONTHS ON AND OFF.
10/01/09 11:16:24 I HAVE A WEEKEND INSPECTOR ON
10/01/09 11:16:25 AND OFF THERE.
10/01/09 11:16:27 GO DOWN AND SEE IF THE BOAT'S
10/01/09 11:16:28 THERE AND AT THE END OF THE
10/01/09 11:16:30 SHIFT GO BACK AND SEE IF THE
10/01/09 11:16:31 BOAT'S THERE.
10/01/09 11:16:32 SO THAT IS THE ISSUE.
10/01/09 11:16:35 I TRIED
10/01/09 11:16:37 TO TELL THEM THAT.
10/01/09 11:16:41 >> TO ME, YOU'VE DONE YOUR
10/01/09 11:16:41 JOB.
10/01/09 11:16:42 >> I WISH I COULD COME UP WITH
10/01/09 11:16:45 SOME OTHER TYPE OF RESOLUTION,
10/01/09 11:16:46 BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE CODE.
10/01/09 11:16:49 WE HAVE BEEN DOWN
10/01/09 11:16:51 THERE SINCE
10/01/09 11:16:52 APRIL.
10/01/09 11:16:54 >> RIGHT, I THINK YOU'VE BEEN
10/01/09 11:16:56 DOWN THERE ENOUGH.
10/01/09 11:16:59 EVERY TIME YOU GO THERE IT'S NO
10/01/09 11:17:01 VIOLATION, THERE'S NOTHING YOU
10/01/09 11:17:02 CAN DO SINCE THERE'S NO
10/01/09 11:17:03 VIOLATIONS.
10/01/09 11:17:05 PETITION'S DOING THE RIGHT
10/01/09 11:17:05 THING.
10/01/09 11:17:07 THEY'RE ADHERING TO THE LAW.
10/01/09 11:17:08 THEY'RE DOING WHAT YOU'RE
10/01/09 11:17:09 TELLING THEM TO DO.
10/01/09 11:17:10 I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH
10/01/09 11:17:11 THAT.
10/01/09 11:17:12 >> THE CODE ALLOWS 24 HOURS.
10/01/09 11:17:15 >> MR. CAN ETANO.
10/01/09 11:17:17 >> DOES THE CODE PROVIDE HEIGHT
10/01/09 11:17:19 OF THE BOAT?
10/01/09 11:17:20 LENGTH OF THE BOAT OR ANYTHING
10/01/09 11:17:21 LIKE THAT?
10/01/09 11:17:22 IS THERE ANYTHING IN OUR CODE
10/01/09 11:17:23 THAT TELLS YOU HOW LARGE THIS
10/01/09 11:17:24 BOAT CAN BE?
10/01/09 11:17:25 >> IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT
10/01/09 11:17:28 THE CODE SAYS THAT THE BOAT
10/01/09 11:17:30 CAN'T BE MORE THAN 26 FEET IN
10/01/09 11:17:34 LENGTH AND 10 FOOT IN HEIGHT.
10/01/09 11:17:35 IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
10/01/09 11:17:37 I DON'T KNOW.
10/01/09 11:17:38 >> [INAUDIBLE]
10/01/09 11:17:39 IS SHAKING HIS
10/01/09 11:17:40 HEAD YES.
10/01/09 11:17:42 >> I HAVEN'T MEASURED THE
10/01/09 11:17:42 PONTOON BOAT.
10/01/09 11:17:44 IT LOOKS LONGER THAN 26 FOOT
10/01/09 11:17:45 WITH A TRAILER.
10/01/09 11:17:47 >> WELL IN LOOKING AT THESE
10/01/09 11:17:49 TEMPERATURES UH, IT LOOKS
10/01/09 11:17:52 INTRUSIVE ON THE GENTLEMAN'S UH,
10/01/09 11:17:54 BECAUSE IT'S PARKED RIGHT NEXT
10/01/09 11:17:56 TO HIS FENCE, NUMBER ONE.
10/01/09 11:17:59 IT'S PROBABLY A COUPLE FEET
10/01/09 11:18:00 AWAY.
10/01/09 11:18:01 IT DOES LOOK INTRUSIVE.
10/01/09 11:18:03 I THINK MAYBE OUR CODE NEEDS TO
10/01/09 11:18:04 BE CHANGED.
10/01/09 11:18:06 IT'S TOO LARGE, IN MY OPINION.
10/01/09 11:18:08 I MEAN, I'M NOT A BOAT LOVER AND
10/01/09 11:18:09 I DON'T LIVE IN THOSE
10/01/09 11:18:12 CONDITIONS, BULLET BUT I
10/01/09 11:18:13 WOULDN'T WANT
10/01/09 11:18:16 TO SEE IT NEXT
10/01/09 11:18:18 TO MY HOUSE.
10/01/09 11:18:19 >> MRS. SAUL-SENA.
10/01/09 11:18:21 >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR.
10/01/09 11:18:26 SLATER WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THIS
10/01/09 11:18:27 CONVERSATION.
10/01/09 11:18:30 >> IN LOOKING AT THAT BOAT RIGHT
10/01/09 11:18:32 NOW, I'D SAY IT'S LESS THAN 24
10/01/09 11:18:33 FOOT.
10/01/09 11:18:36 I MAY BE WRONG, THE TRAILER MAY
10/01/09 11:18:37 STAND OUT.
10/01/09 11:18:39 I DON'T KNOW YOU COUNT THE
10/01/09 11:18:40 TRAILER OR NOT.
10/01/09 11:18:41 BUT IF THEY'RE BRINGING IT IN
10/01/09 11:18:42 AND USING IT, AND WASHING IT AT
10/01/09 11:18:43 THE HOUSE OR WHATEVER THEY DO
10/01/09 11:18:44 AND THEY MEET ALL THE
10/01/09 11:18:46 REGULATIONS OF THE CITY CODE AND
10/01/09 11:18:47 YOU'VE BEEN THERE VARIOUS, MANY
10/01/09 11:18:49 TIMES, AS LONG AS THIS
10/01/09 11:18:50 CONTINUES, THEY COME IN AND OUT
10/01/09 11:18:53 FOR 24 HOURS, I DON'T SEE HOW
10/01/09 11:18:54 WE
10/01/09 11:18:56 CAN PENALIZE THEM.
10/01/09 11:18:59 >> MADAME CHAIR?
10/01/09 11:19:00 >> COUNCILMAN?
10/01/09 11:19:01 >> THANK YOU.
10/01/09 11:19:02 >> JAKE, LOOKING AT THE LOCATION
10/01/09 11:19:05 OF THE TELEPHONE POLE,
10/01/09 11:19:08 IS THAT A
10/01/09 11:19:10 LOCATION EITHER PARTY COULD
10/01/09 11:19:12 INSTALL A 6 FOOT FENCE?
10/01/09 11:19:16 >> I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE --I
10/01/09 11:19:18 MEAN, IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM
10/01/09 11:19:19 THE STREET?
10/01/09 11:19:20 >> YES.
10/01/09 11:19:21 >> I MEAN, LISTEN, I DON'T THINK
10/01/09 11:19:24 WE NEED TO BE CHANGING OUR CODE
10/01/09 11:19:25 FOR ONE ISOLATED SITUATION.
10/01/09 11:19:27 LISTEN, I HAVE A VERY NICE YOUNG
10/01/09 11:19:29 MAN WHO HAS A BOAT ACROSS THE
10/01/09 11:19:31 STREET FROM ME AND HE DOES THE
10/01/09 11:19:34 SAME THING.
10/01/09 11:19:36 HE FISHES ON SATURDAYS, HAS IT
10/01/09 11:19:38 THERE FRIDAY EVENINGS, FISHES ON
10/01/09 11:19:39 SATURDAYS, BRINGS IT HOME AND
10/01/09 11:19:40 WASHES IT OFF SATURDAY
10/01/09 11:19:42 AFTERNOONS AND TAKES IT AWAY
10/01/09 11:19:43 SATURDAY EVENING.
10/01/09 11:19:45 IS THIS OUR CODE, THEY'RE
10/01/09 11:19:46 ABIDING BY THE CODE, PRETTY
10/01/09 11:19:48 DILIGENTLY IT SOUNDS LIKE.
10/01/09 11:19:51 OUR STAFF HAS GONE OUT AND
10/01/09 11:19:52 CHECKED IT OUT.
10/01/09 11:19:53 MR. MAROWSKI SEEMS LIKE A NICE
10/01/09 11:19:55 MAN WHO DOESN'T LIKE IT.
10/01/09 11:19:57 I WOULD SAY, PUT UP A FENCE AND
10/01/09 11:19:58 MAYBE YOU'LL SEE LESS OF IT.
10/01/09 11:20:02 IT'S NOT GOING TO OBSTRUCT IT
10/01/09 11:20:04 COMPLETELY, THAT'S A FOUR-FOOT
10/01/09 11:20:05 FENCE.
10/01/09 11:20:06 PUT THAT BACK DOWN.
10/01/09 11:20:07 THAT'S A FOUR-FOOT CHAIN LINKED
10/01/09 11:20:09 FENCE RIGHT NOW, IF WE ADD
10/01/09 11:20:12 ANOTHER TWO FEET ON@YOU'LL GET
10/01/09 11:20:14 SOME GOOD COVERAGE OF MOST OF
10/01/09 11:20:15 THAT BOAT.
10/01/09 11:20:17 AND UH, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE
10/01/09 11:20:20 EITHER PROPERTY OWNER PERHAPS TO
10/01/09 11:20:21 PUT UP A CYPRUS FENCE AND SO WE
10/01/09 11:20:23 DON'T HAVE TO KEEP DEALING WITH
10/01/09 11:20:25 IT OR YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP
10/01/09 11:20:26 DEALING WITH.
10/01/09 11:20:27 IT OTHER THAT
10/01/09 11:20:30 THAN, I THINK THE
10/01/09 11:20:31 CODE WORKS.
10/01/09 11:20:34 IF YOU START TWEAKING THE CODE,
10/01/09 11:20:36 IT'S GOING TO OFFSET THE APPLE
10/01/09 11:20:39 CART AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED
10/01/09 11:20:42 THAT.
10/01/09 11:20:43 >> ANYONE ELSE?
10/01/09 11:20:46 >> OKAY...
10/01/09 11:20:48 .
10/01/09 11:20:49 >> I HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT.
10/01/09 11:20:52 THERE ARE
10/01/09 11:20:55 NO MORE FERNS GROWING
10/01/09 11:20:58 OUT OF THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
10/01/09 11:21:00 OUR PROGRESS KG SUCCESSFUL.
10/01/09 11:21:02 I WANTED A QUICK UPDATE ON HOW
10/01/09 11:21:05 WE'RE DOING ON THE CORNER OF
10/01/09 11:21:07 NORTH BOULEVARD AND COLUMBUS
10/01/09 11:21:09 DRIVE.
10/01/09 11:21:10 >> NEED TO REIMBURSE JAKE FOR
10/01/09 11:21:13 THE
10/01/09 11:21:16 THE CLOROX THEY USED ON THE
10/01/09 11:21:17 WEEDS.
10/01/09 11:21:19 >> THE CREST BUILDING, I HAVE TO
10/01/09 11:21:22 STOP MY CAR AND GET OUT AND
10/01/09 11:21:23 CLAP.
10/01/09 11:21:24 SOMETHING'S FINALLY BEING DONE.
10/01/09 11:21:25 >> FINALLY.
10/01/09 11:21:28 >>
10/01/09 11:21:31 ON THE VENDOR
10/01/09 11:21:32 SITUATION, THE
10/01/09 11:21:34 BUILDING VENDOR HAS ISSUED A
10/01/09 11:21:35 STOP WORK ORDER TO CONSTRUCTION
10/01/09 11:21:37 OF THE COMPANY THAT HAS PULLED
10/01/09 11:21:38 THE PERMIT.
10/01/09 11:21:40 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, UH, NOTICE
10/01/09 11:21:41 HAS BEEN ACTUALLY LEGALLY SERVED
10/01/09 11:21:44 ON A
10/01/09 11:21:46 CONSTRUCTION COMPANY OR
10/01/09 11:21:46 NOT.
10/01/09 11:21:48 >> THEN WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO MR.
10/01/09 11:21:51 CHAIRMAN IS GET AN UPDATE, STAFF
10/01/09 11:21:53 REPORT, REPORT IN TWO WEEKS ON
10/01/09 11:21:55 THE STATUS OF THE PROPERTY ON
10/01/09 11:21:58 THE CORNER OF NORTH BOULEVARD
10/01/09 11:22:00 AND COLUMBUS DRIVE.
10/01/09 11:22:01 THE NORTHWEST WORNER.
10/01/09 11:22:02 >> WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE
10/01/09 11:22:03 CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, LEGAL
10/01/09 11:22:05 ZONING ON THAT ISSUE AND UH, AND
10/01/09 11:22:06 THERE ARE THINGS IN THE WORKS,
10/01/09 11:22:08 BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
10/01/09 11:22:10 CURRENT OVERALL STATUS IS.
10/01/09 11:22:12 >> MOTION MOVED AND SECOND ALL
10/01/09 11:22:15 IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
10/01/09 11:22:15 >> AYE.
10/01/09 11:22:18 >>
10/01/09 11:22:19 THANK YOU .
10/01/09 11:22:20 >> OKAY.
10/01/09 11:22:38 >> COUNCIL MEMBERS, LET'S MOVE
10/01/09 11:22:40 TO THE NEXT ITEM.
10/01/09 11:22:44 BUT ON ITEM 88, YOU HAVE A MEMO
10/01/09 11:22:45 FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE RELATIVE
10/01/09 11:22:47 TO THAT PROPERTY ON 34TH STREET
10/01/09 11:22:48 IN OSBORNE.
10/01/09 11:22:51 I SUGGEST THAT YOU
10/01/09 11:22:52 MAY WANT TO
10/01/09 11:22:55 --LETTER
10/01/09 11:22:58 FROM
10/01/09 11:23:01 THE
10/01/09 11:23:06 MAYOR.
10/01/09 11:23:07 OKAY?
10/01/09 11:23:08 >> ITEM 91?
10/01/09 11:23:08 ITEM 91?
10/01/09 11:23:11 >>
10/01/09 11:23:14 GOOD MORNING
10/01/09 11:23:15 COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10/01/09 11:23:18 UH, THIS ISSUE HAS TO
10/01/09 11:23:21 DO
10/01/09 11:23:24 WITH AN
10/01/09 11:23:29 UH, CHAMBRAY LANE SUBDIVISION.
10/01/09 11:23:44 >> THIS AREA OUT
10/01/09 11:23:47 HERE IS A
10/01/09 11:23:51 PRIVATE UH, RETENTION POND.
10/01/09 11:24:02 >> CHAMBRAY LANE.
10/01/09 11:24:05 CURRENT LAECHL LY THE DRAINAGE
10/01/09 11:24:06 GOES INTO
10/01/09 11:24:07 THIS RETENTION POND.
10/01/09 11:24:10 A PRIVATE RETENTION
10/01/09 11:24:11 POND.
10/01/09 11:24:13 THEY HAVE UH, VARIOUS FLOODING
10/01/09 11:24:13 ISSUES.
10/01/09 11:24:15 UH, THIS IS A VERY LOW FLAT PART
10/01/09 11:24:16 OF TOWN.
10/01/09 11:24:19 WE HAVE
10/01/09 11:24:21 A LOT OF FLOODING ISSUES
10/01/09 11:24:22 IN THIS AREA.
10/01/09 11:24:23 WE HAVE SOLUTIONS WE CAN PROPOSE
10/01/09 11:24:24 WITH THEM.
10/01/09 11:24:25 WE'D HAVE TO UH, MEET WITH THEM
10/01/09 11:24:29 AND WE'D
10/01/09 11:24:32 LIKE TO DO THAT.
10/01/09 11:24:56 >> THANK YOU FOR
10/01/09 11:24:57 YOUR QUICK
10/01/09 11:24:57 REPORT.
10/01/09 11:24:59 THE UM, I WOULD DEFINITELY
10/01/09 11:25:00 ENCOURAGE YOU TO, AS WE SPOKE
10/01/09 11:25:02 YESTERDAY, TO GET OUT THERE AND
10/01/09 11:25:03 MEET WITH THOSE FOLKS.
10/01/09 11:25:04 YOU KNOW WHAT?
10/01/09 11:25:05 WHEN I E-MAILED THEM YESTERDAY
10/01/09 11:25:08 ABOUT THE THINGS YOU AND I
10/01/09 11:25:10 TALKED ABOUT, HE SAID WE DIDN'T
10/01/09 11:25:13 KNOW WE'D HAVE TO WILL
10/01/09 11:25:17 CONTRIBUTE.
10/01/09 11:25:19 IF YOU COULD MEET WITH THEM,
10/01/09 11:25:19 THAT'D BE GREAT.
10/01/09 11:25:21 I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR AN
10/01/09 11:25:23 ADDITIONAL REPORT IN SIX MONTHS.
10/01/09 11:25:24 >> SECOND.
10/01/09 11:25:27 >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY
10/01/09 11:25:30 AYE.
10/01/09 11:25:31 >> THANK YOU.
10/01/09 11:25:32 ITEM 92?
10/01/09 11:25:42 >> UM...
10/01/09 11:25:43 WE HAVE HAD 29 POLICE
10/01/09 11:25:45 OFFICERS KILLED IN THE LINE OF
10/01/09 11:25:48 DUTY IN THE HISTORY OF THE
10/01/09 11:25:48 TAMPA
10/01/09 11:25:49 POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10/01/09 11:25:52 WE HAVE TWO BEAUTIFUL MEMORIALS.
10/01/09 11:25:55 ONE IN FRONT OF 411 FRANKLIN
10/01/09 11:25:55 STREET.
10/01/09 11:25:57 WHILE WE'RE FLATTERED THAT THE
10/01/09 11:25:59 COUNCIL SUPPORTS US AND WANTS TO
10/01/09 11:26:00 HONOR THREE INDIVIDUAL OFFICERS,
10/01/09 11:26:02 WE'RE KIND OF CONCERNED THIS MAY
10/01/09 11:26:05 SLIGHT THE FAMILY
10/01/09 11:26:08 OF THE OTHER
10/01/09 11:26:09 26.
10/01/09 11:26:15 >>
10/01/09 11:26:18 THANK
10/01/09 11:26:23 YOU VERY MUCH.
10/01/09 11:26:24 ITEM 93.
10/01/09 11:26:30 >> PUBLIC WORKS UTILITY
10/01/09 11:26:32 SERVICES, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL
10/01/09 11:26:35 MEMBERS, I PROVIDED AN, EXCUSE
10/01/09 11:26:38 ME A MEMO, UH, REGARDING THE SOD
10/01/09 11:26:40 THAT WE WERE TRYING TO BUY,
10/01/09 11:26:43 AGAIN, THE SOD IS TO BE USED
10/01/09 11:26:45 WHERE WE, ONLY WHERE WE REPLACE
10/01/09 11:26:48 OR REMOVE UH, THIS TYPE, THE
10/01/09 11:26:51 SAME TYPE OF SOD WHEN WE'RE
10/01/09 11:26:55 DOING RETENTION AREA OR
10/01/09 11:26:55 DRAINAGE
10/01/09 11:26:56 DITCH RESTORATION.
10/01/09 11:26:56 UM...
10/01/09 11:26:58 AS I SAID IN HERE, 90% OF
10/01/09 11:27:01 THE SOD WE DO PUT
10/01/09 11:27:02 DOWN IT
10/01/09 11:27:02 BAHAYA.
10/01/09 11:27:04 BUT THERE ARE SOME YARDS WHERE
10/01/09 11:27:05 PEOPLE HAVE THIS TYPE OF SOD
10/01/09 11:27:06 AND...
10/01/09 11:27:07 TYPICALLY WE LIKE TO
10/01/09 11:27:10 RESTORE IT THE SAME WAY IT WAS
10/01/09 11:27:16 BEFORE WE BOTHERED
10/01/09 11:27:17 IT.
10/01/09 11:27:19 UM, I'M A LITTLE, ACTUALLY MORE
10/01/09 11:27:20 CONCERNED AFTER YOUR RESPONSE
10/01/09 11:27:22 THAN I WAS BEFORE IT.
10/01/09 11:27:25 AND I'M GOING TO MOVE THE
10/01/09 11:27:27 RESOLUTION BECAUSE IT, IT
10/01/09 11:27:29 DOESN'T DESIGNATE WHICH KIND
10/01/09 11:27:32 YOU'RE GOING TO BUY, BUT
10/01/09 11:27:33 I THINK
10/01/09 11:27:36 THIS UH, MAYBE WAS A
10/01/09 11:27:37 MISTAKE.
10/01/09 11:27:39 BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT IN YOUR
10/01/09 11:27:41 LETTER, THIS IS PROBABLY, MAYBE
10/01/09 11:27:44 TRUE, BUT IT WASN'T SUCCESSFUL,
10/01/09 11:27:50 YOU SAID THAT FLORATAM
10/01/09 11:27:52 SOD WAS
10/01/09 11:27:55 USED AS A LOW WATER USE SOD, BUT
10/01/09 11:27:58 IT'S NOT
10/01/09 11:28:00 AS COMPARED TO BAHEA.
10/01/09 11:28:03 YOU SAID IT'S MORE DROUGHT
10/01/09 11:28:04 TOLERANT THAN BAHEA.
10/01/09 11:28:05 THAT WAS THE REASON I PULLED
10/01/09 11:28:09 THIS IN THE FIRST
10/01/09 11:28:10 PLACE BECAUSE
10/01/09 11:28:11 THAT'S JUST NOT CORRECT.
10/01/09 11:28:13 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, SOMEBODY
10/01/09 11:28:16 MIXED THOSE UP, BUT BAHEA IS
10/01/09 11:28:19 DROUGHT TOLERANT
10/01/09 11:28:22 AND UH, AND
10/01/09 11:28:25 FLORATFK AM
10/01/09 11:28:26 IS NOT.
10/01/09 11:28:29 I CONFIRM THAT WITH A NATIVE
10/01/09 11:28:31 PLANT NURSERY.
10/01/09 11:28:32 SO...
10/01/09 11:28:33 MY CONCERN, I MEAN, WE
10/01/09 11:28:34 CAN, I'M GOING TO MOVE THE
10/01/09 11:28:38 RESOLUTION, BUT MY
10/01/09 11:28:38 CONCERN IS
10/01/09 11:28:40 THAT UM, BUT THEN ON THE OTHER
10/01/09 11:28:43 HAND YOU SAID 90% OF WHAT
10/01/09 11:28:44 YOU
10/01/09 11:28:45 REPLACE IS BAHEA?
10/01/09 11:28:46 >> THAT'S CORRECT.
10/01/09 11:28:49 90% OF WHAT WE PUT DOWN IS
10/01/09 11:28:51 BAHEA SOD, THAT'S CORRECT.
10/01/09 11:28:52 >> OKAY, I'M FINE.
10/01/09 11:28:54 I'LL MOVE THE RESOLUTION, BUT I
10/01/09 11:28:55 AM, I AM--
10/01/09 11:28:56 >> A SECOND.
10/01/09 11:28:57 >> I THINK THE INFORMATION YOU
10/01/09 11:28:58 GAVE ISN'T CORRECT AND IT NEEDS
10/01/09 11:29:01 TO BE YOU KNOW, YOU
10/01/09 11:29:03 NEED TO
10/01/09 11:29:03 REALIZE THAT.
10/01/09 11:29:04 >> MOVED AND SECOND.
10/01/09 11:29:07 ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
10/01/09 11:29:10 SAYING
10/01/09 11:29:14 AYE.
10/01/09 11:29:15 >> AYE.
10/01/09 11:29:15 >> OPPOSED?
10/01/09 11:29:18 >>
10/01/09 11:29:21 I
10/01/09 11:29:24 TALK TO MR. DAIGNAULT MANY
10/01/09 11:29:24 TIMES.
10/01/09 11:29:26 THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS THERE.
10/01/09 11:29:28 LAST YEAR, FOUR PEOPLE HAVE
10/01/09 11:29:29 GOTTEN KILLED THERE.
10/01/09 11:29:30 AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENTS, A
10/01/09 11:29:31 GENTLEMAN JOGGING IN THE MORNING
10/01/09 11:29:32 AND SOME KID GOING SCHOOL.
10/01/09 11:29:35 WE NEED A STUDY UH, IN THAT
10/01/09 11:29:35 AREA.
10/01/09 11:29:38 PART OF IT IS PASCO COUNTY, AND
10/01/09 11:29:39 PART OF IT IS HILLSBOROUGH
10/01/09 11:29:42 COUNTY AND ON THE OTHER SIDE IS
10/01/09 11:29:44 CITY OF TAMPA.
10/01/09 11:29:45 THAT'S WHERE GRANT HAMPTON IS
10/01/09 11:29:48 AND THE NEW UH, SHOPPING CENTER
10/01/09 11:29:50 AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF
10/01/09 11:29:52 APARTMENT BACK IN THERE WHICH
10/01/09 11:29:53 HAVE ALL BEEN APPROVED.
10/01/09 11:29:55 WE NEED LIGHTS THERE.
10/01/09 11:29:57 IT'S VERY, VERY DANGEROUS.
10/01/09 11:29:58 THE ROAD IS FOUR LANES AND ALL
10/01/09 11:30:00 OF A SUDDEN WHEN YOU HIT THE
10/01/09 11:30:01 BRIDGE, IT'S TWO LANES.
10/01/09 11:30:03 THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY WALKING
10/01/09 11:30:04 THERE.
10/01/09 11:30:05 THERE ARE SOME LIGHTS IN FRONT
10/01/09 11:30:07 OF GRANT HAMPTON THAT THEY PUT
10/01/09 11:30:09 UP THEMSELVES BUT THEY REALLY
10/01/09 11:30:10 DON'T ILLUMINATE THE STREET.
10/01/09 11:30:12 >> IS THERE SIDEWALK?
10/01/09 11:30:13 >> NO SIDEWALKS.
10/01/09 11:30:15 >> THAT'S WHAT WE NEED IS
10/01/09 11:30:16 SIDEWALKS.
10/01/09 11:30:18 >> SO WE'D BE GLAD TO POINT THIS
10/01/09 11:30:19 OUT AGAIN TO THE COUNTY.
10/01/09 11:30:22 YOU HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP TO US.
10/01/09 11:30:23 WE HAVE REFERRED THIS TO THE
10/01/09 11:30:25 COUNTY AS IT'S IN THE COUNTY FOR
10/01/09 11:30:25 THEIR RESOLUTION.
10/01/09 11:30:27 IT'S NOT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS
10/01/09 11:30:29 AND REALLY NOT--
10/01/09 11:30:31 >> GRANT HAMPTON'S IN THE CITY
10/01/09 11:30:31 LIMITS.
10/01/09 11:30:33 >> YES, SIR ON THAT SOUTH SIDE
10/01/09 11:30:34 OF THE ROAD.
10/01/09 11:30:35 AND WITHIN GRANT HAMPTON, I
10/01/09 11:30:38 THINK THERE ARE
10/01/09 11:30:39 LIGHTS.
10/01/09 11:30:39 >> YEAH.
10/01/09 11:30:41 WITHIN GRANT HAMPTON'S, YEAH.
10/01/09 11:30:43 THEY PAY FOR THAT IN THERE.
10/01/09 11:30:46 I THINK THE INSTALLATION WOULD
10/01/09 11:30:48 BE EASY WITH THE TELEPHONE POLES
10/01/09 11:30:49 THERE.
10/01/09 11:30:51 THEY DON'T NEED NEW STRUCTURES.
10/01/09 11:30:52 YOU'LL HAVE THAT REPORT
10/01/09 11:30:53 TOMORROW.
10/01/09 11:30:56 >> I'LL BE GLAD TO SEND IT TO
10/01/09 11:30:58 THE COUNTY.
10/01/09 11:30:59 >> THANK YOU, SIR.
10/01/09 11:31:01 >> OKAY, COUNCIL, UH, I THINK
10/01/09 11:31:04 THAT'S ALL THE ITEMS ON THE
10/01/09 11:31:05 AGENDA FOR TODAY.
10/01/09 11:31:05 UM...
10/01/09 11:31:08 LET'S TAKE UP NEW BUSINESS
10/01/09 11:31:12 AT
10/01/09 11:31:12 THIS TIME.
10/01/09 11:31:13 UM....
10/01/09 11:31:16 >> COUNCILMAN CAETANO, DO YOU
10/01/09 11:31:18 HAVE NEW BUSINESS?
10/01/09 11:31:18 >> OKAY....
10/01/09 11:31:21 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10/01/09 11:31:24 UM...
10/01/09 11:31:26 I'VE DEVELOPED A
10/01/09 11:31:28 RESOLUTION EEPGS THE EXPANSION
10/01/09 11:31:31 OF OFFSHORE DRILLING
10/01/09 11:31:33 REQUESTING
10/01/09 11:31:34 THAT FLORIDA LEGISLATURE NOT
10/01/09 11:31:37 TAKE UP THIS MATTER IN A
10/01/09 11:31:38 SPECIAL
10/01/09 11:31:39 SESSION IN NOVEMBER PROVIDING
10/01/09 11:31:40 EFFECTIVE DATE.
10/01/09 11:31:43 >> YOU WANT TO CORRECT THAT,
10/01/09 11:31:44 RIGHT?
10/01/09 11:31:45 >> YEAH, TURE.
10/01/09 11:31:48 >> MOVED
10/01/09 11:31:51 AND SECOND BY
10/01/09 11:31:52 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10/01/09 11:31:55 >> WOULDN'T WE BE OPPOSED TO
10/01/09 11:31:57 ALL
10/01/09 11:31:57 OFFSHORE DRILLING?
10/01/09 11:31:59 NOT JUST WITHIN THREE MILES OF
10/01/09 11:32:00 THE COAST?
10/01/09 11:32:03 >> I MEAN, DO WE WANT IT
10/01/09 11:32:03 FOUR
10/01/09 11:32:05 MILES OFF?
10/01/09 11:32:06 OR....
10/01/09 11:32:08 >> THAT IS A REALLY GOOD POINT.
10/01/09 11:32:09 >> I GUESS FOR NOW THIS IS FINE
10/01/09 11:32:10 THOUGH.
10/01/09 11:32:11 I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND --.
10/01/09 11:32:13 >> FRANKLY YOU'RE RIGHT.
10/01/09 11:32:13 WHY NOT.
10/01/09 11:32:16 I THINK I MODELLED THIS ON
10/01/09 11:32:18 ADJACENT COMMUNITIES UH, YOU
10/01/09 11:32:20 KNOW, RESOLUTION.
10/01/09 11:32:21 >> I'M NOT TOO SURE, BUT I
10/01/09 11:32:22 BELIEVE THERE'S, WAY BACK IN
10/01/09 11:32:25 HISTORY THERE'S A LOT OF GULF OF
10/01/09 11:32:27 MEXICO THAT I FORGET HOW MANY
10/01/09 11:32:29 HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ACRES
10/01/09 11:32:32 HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR OFFSHORE
10/01/09 11:32:33 DRILLING.
10/01/09 11:32:35 I DON'T KNOW.
10/01/09 11:32:37 AM I SOMEWHERE NEAR IN THE
10/01/09 11:32:37 BALLPARK?
10/01/09 11:32:39 >> YES, SIR, CHIP FLETCHER, CITY
10/01/09 11:32:40 ATTORNEY.
10/01/09 11:32:41 I HAVE TO ASSUME THE THREE MILE
10/01/09 11:32:42 COMES FROM THE STATE
10/01/09 11:32:43 JURISDICTION AS YOU ALL PROBABLY
10/01/09 11:32:44 KNOW.
10/01/09 11:32:47 DEBATE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL
10/01/09 11:32:48 ABOUT BANDONING OFFSHORE
10/01/09 11:32:51 DRILLING, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE
10/01/09 11:32:53 THE
10/01/09 11:32:55 INFORMATION COUNCILMAN SAUL-SENA
10/01/09 11:32:58 HAS WHERE THE THREE-MILE IS
10/01/09 11:32:58 APPROPRIATE.
10/01/09 11:33:01 >> SIGNIFICANT
10/01/09 11:33:04 Y --
10/01/09 11:33:06 SIGNIFY BY
10/01/09 11:33:07 SAYING
10/01/09 11:33:08 AYE.
10/01/09 11:33:09 >> TWO OTHER QUICK THINGS.
10/01/09 11:33:12 I HAD A, I ATTENDED A CONFERENCE
10/01/09 11:33:14 CALLED CEOS FOR CITIES ON
10/01/09 11:33:15 TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.
10/01/09 11:33:17 AND HEARD DIRECTLY FROM THE
10/01/09 11:33:19 OBAMA ADMINISTRATION THAT THEY
10/01/09 11:33:22 ARE REALLY SUPPORTIVE OF CITIES
10/01/09 11:33:24 WHICH IS SO REFRESHING AND
10/01/09 11:33:24 TERRIFIC.
10/01/09 11:33:26 THEY WANT TO HEAR FROM US AS
10/01/09 11:33:27 LOCAL ELECTORS AND WANT TO KNOW
10/01/09 11:33:30 THE NEEDS OF OUR
10/01/09 11:33:31 COMMUNITIES.
10/01/09 11:33:32 AND THE ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF
10/01/09 11:33:33 TRANSPORTATION SPOKE TO OUR
10/01/09 11:33:34 GROUP.
10/01/09 11:33:36 THEY ARE COMMITTED TO FUNDING
10/01/09 11:33:37 THINGS IN ADDITION TO ROADS.
10/01/09 11:33:39 THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF MONEY FOR
10/01/09 11:33:41 BIKEWAYS, SIDEWALKS, TRANSIT, I
10/01/09 11:33:44 TOLD THEM WE DEFINITELY
10/01/09 11:33:45 WANT
10/01/09 11:33:46 MONEY FOR THEIR TRANSPORTATION
10/01/09 11:33:47 INITIATIVES HERE AND I WILL
10/01/09 11:33:48 SHARE ALL THIS INFORMATION WITH
10/01/09 11:33:52 YOU ALL, IT WAS SO HEARTENING.
10/01/09 11:33:55 IT WAS REALLY UM, TREMENDOUSLY
10/01/09 11:33:57 ENERGIZING TO KNOW HOW MUCH THEY
10/01/09 11:33:58 CARE ABOUT LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND
10/01/09 11:34:01 PARTICULARLY IN THE FIELD OF
10/01/09 11:34:01 TRANSPORTATION.
10/01/09 11:34:03 AND FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE
10/01/09 11:34:04 HISTORY OF D.C., THEY'RE TYING
10/01/09 11:34:07 LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION
10/01/09 11:34:08 TOGETHER.
10/01/09 11:34:10 HUD AND DOT ARE ACTUALLY
10/01/09 11:34:11 COLLABORATING BECAUSE THEY
10/01/09 11:34:14 RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE
10/01/09 11:34:16 TRANSACTION SYSTEM AND NOT JUST
10/01/09 11:34:19 LAND USE SYSTEM,
10/01/09 11:34:21 IT'S ALL A
10/01/09 11:34:22 PIECE.
10/01/09 11:34:23 THERE'S MORE COOPERATION AND
10/01/09 11:34:26 ABILITY TO FUND THINGS WHERE YOU
10/01/09 11:34:31 DEMONSTRATE THAT LAND USE AND
10/01/09 11:34:32 THINGS ARE IN SYNC.
10/01/09 11:34:34 IT WAS VERY GOOD NEWS.
10/01/09 11:34:37 THANK
10/01/09 11:34:37 YOU.
10/01/09 11:34:38 >> THANK YOU.
10/01/09 11:34:39 >> NOTHING MR. CHAIRMAN.
10/01/09 11:34:41 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO CLEAR
10/01/09 11:34:43 THE RECORD, THERE'S A LITTLE
10/01/09 11:34:43 CONFUSION.
10/01/09 11:34:45 I'D LIKE TO PASS AN UH,
10/01/09 11:34:46 ACCOMMODATION TO THE HISPANIC
10/01/09 11:34:50 SCIENTIST OF THE YEAR AWARD
10/01/09 11:34:53 TO
10/01/09 11:34:56 DR.
10/01/09 11:34:57 NEILS J. DIAZ.
10/01/09 11:35:00 MOVE AND SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR.
10/01/09 11:35:02 SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
10/01/09 11:35:04 >> AYE.
10/01/09 11:35:05 >> OPPOSED?
10/01/09 11:35:06 >> ANYTHING ELSE?
10/01/09 11:35:08 >> NO.
10/01/09 11:35:09 >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?
10/01/09 11:35:11 >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, GOT
10/01/09 11:35:12 AN E-MAIL THIS WEEK REMINDING US
10/01/09 11:35:14 THAT THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA
10/01/09 11:35:17 ARE CELEBRATING THEIR 100TH
10/01/09 11:35:18 ANNIVERSARY THIS YEAR.
10/01/09 11:35:22 OF COURSE BOY SCOUTS AND GIRL
10/01/09 11:35:23 SCOUTS, IT'S A GREAT
10/01/09 11:35:23 ORGANIZATION.
10/01/09 11:35:26 THE LOCAL
10/01/09 11:35:29 CHAPTER,
10/01/09 11:35:30 THE GULF
10/01/09 11:35:32 COAST COUNCIL WILL BE PLEASED TO
10/01/09 11:35:33 ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION FROM
10/01/09 11:35:34 US.
10/01/09 11:35:35 WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE GOOD
10/01/09 11:35:36 THINGS THEY DO.
10/01/09 11:35:38 I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR A FUTURE
10/01/09 11:35:39 DATE.
10/01/09 11:35:41 ACCOMMODATION OF BOY SCOUTS OF
10/01/09 11:35:42 AMERICA.
10/01/09 11:35:43 100 YEAR ANNIVERSARY.
10/01/09 11:35:46 >> ALL IN FAVOR, SAY
10/01/09 11:35:47 AYE.
10/01/09 11:35:48 >> AYE.
10/01/09 11:35:49 >> OPPOSES?
10/01/09 11:35:51 >> I GUESS THAT WOULD BE ON A
10/01/09 11:35:52 WORKSHOP DAY?
10/01/09 11:35:53 >> THAT'S WHEN YOU WANT IT.
10/01/09 11:35:56 >> I'LL SET IT FOR A
10/01/09 11:35:57 WORKSHOP
10/01/09 11:35:58 DAY.
10/01/09 11:35:59 >> OKAY...
10/01/09 11:36:00 ANYTHING ELSE?
10/01/09 11:36:02 OKAY, I HAVE TWO ITEMS.
10/01/09 11:36:05 ONE IS UH, I SENT ALL OF YOU A
10/01/09 11:36:06 MEMO REQUESTING THAT WE FORWARD
10/01/09 11:36:09 TO LEGAL AND ADMINISTRATION ON
10/01/09 11:36:12 THIS
10/01/09 11:36:14 UH, UH, REGISTERING OF THE
10/01/09 11:36:15 FORECLOSED PROPERTIES,
10/01/09 11:36:17 OPPORTUNITIES TO BE PROACTIVE
10/01/09 11:36:19 AND TO BRING REVENUE INTO THE
10/01/09 11:36:19 CITIES.
10/01/09 11:36:22 I WANT TO FORWARD THAT
10/01/09 11:36:23 TO MR.
10/01/09 11:36:26 FLETCHER AND BRING BACK TO THE
10/01/09 11:36:27 FIRST MEETING IN NOVEMBER.
10/01/09 11:36:30 FIRST
10/01/09 11:36:32 MEETING WE DISCUSSED.
10/01/09 11:36:34 MR. FLETCHER WE DISCUSSED,
10/01/09 11:36:35 RECOMMENDATION OR POTENTIAL
10/01/09 11:36:37 ORDINANCE ON THIS ISSUE.
10/01/09 11:36:38 >> OKAY.
10/01/09 11:36:40 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK THAT'S
10/01/09 11:36:41 A REALLY INNOVATIVE IDEA.
10/01/09 11:36:43 HOW WOULD IT WORK?
10/01/09 11:36:44 HOW WOULD WE KNOW?
10/01/09 11:36:45 >> THEY'RE GOING TO BRING ALL
10/01/09 11:36:46 THAT BACK.
10/01/09 11:36:48 >> THIS IS A TOOL USED IN OTHER
10/01/09 11:36:50 JURISDICTIONS AND UH, STAFF HAS
10/01/09 11:36:53 ACTUALLY BEEN WORKING ON THIS
10/01/09 11:36:54 AND SO IT'S TIMELY.
10/01/09 11:36:56 WE'LL BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK TO
10/01/09 11:36:59 YOU
10/01/09 11:37:00 IN NOVEMBER.
10/01/09 11:37:01 >> SO MOVED.
10/01/09 11:37:02 I'M SORRY.
10/01/09 11:37:05 THERE'S BEEN A MOTION
10/01/09 11:37:06 AND A
10/01/09 11:37:06 SECOND.
10/01/09 11:37:08 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK IT'S A
10/01/09 11:37:09 GREAT IDEA.
10/01/09 11:37:10 WE APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS
10/01/09 11:37:11 FORWARD.
10/01/09 11:37:13 OBVIOUSLY FOR FORECLOSURES ARE A
10/01/09 11:37:16 HUGE PROBLEM IN OUR COMMUNITY,
10/01/09 11:37:18 ESPECIALLY WHEN THE WEEDS START
10/01/09 11:37:20 GROWING AND POOLS DON'T GET
10/01/09 11:37:21 CLEANED ET CETERA.
10/01/09 11:37:25 THE ONLY WE I
10/01/09 11:37:26 HAVE.
10/01/09 11:37:29 I'M SURE WE'RE ALL HOPEFUL AND
10/01/09 11:37:30 OPTIMISTIC THAT THIS FORECLOSURE
10/01/09 11:37:33 PROGRAM IS MAYBE
10/01/09 11:37:34 A TEMPORARY
10/01/09 11:37:35 PROBLEM.
10/01/09 11:37:37 MAYBE IT'LL ONLY BE BAD FOR THE
10/01/09 11:37:38 NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS.
10/01/09 11:37:39 I'M WONDERING, UM, I'D LIKE TO
10/01/09 11:37:42 HAVE STAFF AT LEAST VISIT THE
10/01/09 11:37:44 POSSIBILITY OF, OF LOOKING AT
10/01/09 11:37:47 THAT ISSUE AS SOMETHING WE WANT
10/01/09 11:37:48 IN THERE FOREVER?
10/01/09 11:37:51 THERE IS A FEE ASSOCIATED WITH
10/01/09 11:37:52 IT.
10/01/09 11:37:54 THAT ULTIMATELY GETS PASSED
10/01/09 11:37:56 PROBABLY TO THE NEXT BUYER.
10/01/09 11:37:58 BUT ANYWAY, LOOK AT THE
10/01/09 11:37:59 POSSIBILITY OF A SUNSET
10/01/09 11:38:01 PROVISION IN TWO OR THREE YEARS.
10/01/09 11:38:05 SUNSET PROVISION OR A
10/01/09 11:38:05 REVISITING
10/01/09 11:38:06 TYPE PROVISION.
10/01/09 11:38:07 SO UH...
10/01/09 11:38:08 YOU KNOW, SO HOPEFULLY
10/01/09 11:38:10 IF WE'RE OUT OF THE WOODS ON
10/01/09 11:38:13 THIS, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, THIS
10/01/09 11:38:17 ISSUE CAN DIE AWAY.
10/01/09 11:38:20 >> OKAY, THERE'S BEEN A
10/01/09 11:38:23 MOTION
10/01/09 11:38:25 AND A SECOND.
10/01/09 11:38:26 ANYMORE DISCUSSION?
10/01/09 11:38:27 AYE.
10/01/09 11:38:28 >> OKAY...
10/01/09 11:38:29 THE OTHER ISSUE I
10/01/09 11:38:31 HAVE IS A FEW WEEKS AGO I
10/01/09 11:38:35 REQUESTED --INFORMATION
10/01/09 11:38:38 REGARDING THE UH,
10/01/09 11:38:39 THE CABLE
10/01/09 11:38:40 COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT, UH,
10/01/09 11:38:41 RELATIVE TO THE TAPING OF THE
10/01/09 11:38:43 EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING FOR
10/01/09 11:38:45 THE SPORTS AUTHORITY AND THE
10/01/09 11:38:47 BOARD MEETING AND THEY, IF YOU
10/01/09 11:38:48 READ THE MEMO, THEY COULDN'T
10/01/09 11:38:50 COME UP WITH ANY ITEMIZED
10/01/09 11:38:52 FIGURES SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS
10/01/09 11:38:54 PRECEPT TO YOU WHAT REALLY ARE
10/01/09 11:38:56 THE FIGURES AND NUMBERS.
10/01/09 11:38:59 IT LOOKED LIKE THERE'S BEEN IN
10/01/09 11:39:02 THE
10/01/09 11:39:04 NEIGHBORHOOD, ABOUT 6,000
10/01/09 11:39:06 UH, $6,840 ON THE TAPING OF
10/01/09 11:39:07 THAT.
10/01/09 11:39:10 I WANT TO GIVE THAT BEFORE YOU
10/01/09 11:39:12 ALL.
10/01/09 11:39:14 INFORMATION FOR YOU.
10/01/09 11:39:15 PRETTY MUCH.
10/01/09 11:39:17 I STILL FIND IT INCREDIBLE THAT
10/01/09 11:39:18 THEY COULDN'T COST IT OUT.
10/01/09 11:39:19 I JUST THINK EVERYTHING IN THE
10/01/09 11:39:22 CITY THAT HAS A COST TO IT, IT
10/01/09 11:39:25 CAN BE COST OUT.
10/01/09 11:39:27 WANTED TO GIVE THAT TO YOU TO
10/01/09 11:39:28 PASS AROUND.
10/01/09 11:39:29 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE
10/01/09 11:39:31 HAVE THIS KIND OF INFORMATION.
10/01/09 11:39:34 SO THAT'S
10/01/09 11:39:37 ALL
10/01/09 11:39:39 I HAVE.
10/01/09 11:39:41 >> GO AHEAD.
10/01/09 11:39:42 >> LADIES FIRST.
10/01/09 11:39:45 >> MR. MUELLER, WOULD YOU
10/01/09 11:39:45 COME
10/01/09 11:39:48 UP A MINUTE, PLEASE?
10/01/09 11:39:49 MR. MUELLER?
10/01/09 11:39:50 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M REALLY
10/01/09 11:39:52 PLEASED THAT YOU GOT TO THE
10/01/09 11:39:53 BOTTOM OF THIS UH...
10/01/09 11:39:57 YOU KNOW,
10/01/09 11:39:59 HOW MUCH SOMETHING COSTS.
10/01/09 11:40:16 >> WHEN YOU ASKED THE QUESTION,
10/01/09 11:40:18 I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT DIRECTION YOU
10/01/09 11:40:20 WERE HEADED ON IT, MAYBE YOU'RE
10/01/09 11:40:22 NOT HEADING ANYWHERE ON IT.
10/01/09 11:40:23 I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT I'M REALLY
10/01/09 11:40:26 PLEASED THAT THE MAYOR DIRECTED
10/01/09 11:40:29 THEM TO BROADCAST THE SPORTS
10/01/09 11:40:30 AUTHORITY MEETINGS.
10/01/09 11:40:32 THE SPORTS AUTHORITY SPENDS YOU
10/01/09 11:40:34 KNOW, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF
10/01/09 11:40:36 TAXPAYER MONEY, CITY AND COUNTY
10/01/09 11:40:39 MONEY AND IT SHOULD BE
10/01/09 11:40:40 BROADCAST.
10/01/09 11:40:41 UM...
10/01/09 11:40:42 AND, AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE
10/01/09 11:40:43 THAT IT, IT MIGHT COST US $6,000
10/01/09 11:40:44 A YEAR TO BROADCAST IT.
10/01/09 11:40:48 BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED THAT
10/01/09 11:40:50 KIND OF TRANSPARENCY.
10/01/09 11:40:51 IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY TO
10/01/09 11:40:53 BROADCAST OUR MEETINGS, BUT
10/01/09 11:40:54 PEOPLE GET INFORMED ON WHAT
10/01/09 11:40:56 WE'RE DOING AND WHAT'S GOING ON
10/01/09 11:40:57 IN THE CITY.
10/01/09 11:40:58 IT'S IMPORTANT.
10/01/09 11:40:59 SO UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE
10/01/09 11:41:00 SPORTS AUTHORITY SHOULD FIGURE
10/01/09 11:41:03 OUT A WAY TO REIMBURSE THE CITY
10/01/09 11:41:05 FOR $6800, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF
10/01/09 11:41:08 THAT'S
10/01/09 11:41:10 GOING TO HAPPY EITHER.
10/01/09 11:41:29 >> YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT TO
10/01/09 11:41:29 NOTE
10/01/09 11:41:32 THAT, WE HAVE A
10/01/09 11:41:33 WHOLE LOT OF
10/01/09 11:41:36 MEETINGS THAT ARE NOT TAPED AS
10/01/09 11:41:37 WELL.
10/01/09 11:41:40 >> I'M
10/01/09 11:41:42 NOT OPPOSED TO IT.
10/01/09 11:41:48 WEATHER WE WERE IN THE
10/01/09 11:41:49 DISCUSSION OF MOVING MONEY
10/01/09 11:41:50 AROUND.
10/01/09 11:41:51 >> I HAVE A QUESTION OF MR.
10/01/09 11:41:54 MUELLER, WOULD
10/01/09 11:41:56 YOU PLEASE COME
10/01/09 11:41:57 UP?
10/01/09 11:42:00 I KNOW WE JUST PASSED A CODE
10/01/09 11:42:01 ENFORCEMENT ORDINANCE, IT YOU
10/01/09 11:42:03 JUST STRIKE THE VIOLATION OR IS
10/01/09 11:42:05 IT STILL IN THERE.
10/01/09 11:42:06 >> WHAT?
10/01/09 11:42:09 >> ANY CODE VIOLATIONS.
10/01/09 11:42:12 >> ALL I DID IN THAT
10/01/09 11:42:13 SUBSTITUTE
10/01/09 11:42:15 ORDINANCE WAS REMOVED ONE CODE
10/01/09 11:42:16 SECTION THAT HAD BEEN IDENTIFIED
10/01/09 11:42:17 EARLIER.
10/01/09 11:42:19 THAT WAS CODE SECTION 22-67.
10/01/09 11:42:21 I JUST REMOVED THAT OUT OF IT
10/01/09 11:42:23 BECAUSE THAT HAD TO DO WITH
10/01/09 11:42:24 PERMIT REVOCATION.
10/01/09 11:42:26 >> YOU DIDN'T SAY ANY CODE
10/01/09 11:42:27 VIOLATIONS?
10/01/09 11:42:29 >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO BUT I CAN
10/01/09 11:42:30 TALK TO YOU AFTERWARDS TO MAKE
10/01/09 11:42:32 SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT
10/01/09 11:42:33 YOU'RE ASKING.
10/01/09 11:42:35 SO I GIVE YOU AN ACCURATE
10/01/09 11:42:36 ANSWER.
10/01/09 11:42:37 >> ALL RIGHTY.
10/01/09 11:42:42 >> ANYTHING ELSE?
10/01/09 11:42:43 ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE
10/01/09 11:42:44 COUNCIL?
10/01/09 11:42:47 >> ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY
10/01/09 11:42:47 SAYING AYE.
10/01/09 11:42:51 >> I WANTED
10/01/09 11:42:52 TO COMPLIMENT CITY
10/01/09 11:42:53 COUNCIL.
10/01/09 11:42:54 WE INITIATED A CONVERSATION
10/01/09 11:42:57 ABOUT PROTECTING
10/01/09 11:42:59 OUR RIVER FROM
10/01/09 11:43:02 THE
10/01/09 11:43:11 --GOOD FOR OUR ALERTNESS.
10/01/09 11:43:13 >> THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL.
10/01/09 11:43:15 GOOD DAY, GOOD MEETING TODAY.
10/01/09 11:43:18 WE'RE
10/01/09 11:43:20 FINISHING UP EARLY.
10/01/09 11:43:21 THANK YOU.
10/01/09 11:43:24 >> I WANTED TO KNOW IF ANYBODY
10/01/09 11:43:26 WANTED TO ADDRESS COUNCIL?
10/01/09 11:43:29 BEFORE
10/01/09 11:43:31 YOU ALL LEAVE?
10/01/09 11:43:32 ANYONE?