TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
Thursday, January 27, 2011
9:00 a.m. Workshop Session
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09:05:45 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Tampa City Council will now come to
09:05:47 The chair will yield to the honorable Curtis Stokes.
09:05:51 >>CURTIS STOKES: Thank you very much, Chairman Scott.
09:05:52 I would like to call father David troops to the podium.
09:05:58 He attended Florida southern college for two years
09:06:01 before entering the seminary.
09:06:02 He began studying for the dais of St. Petersburg,
09:06:05 Florida, and was sent to St. John's seminary in Miami
09:06:09 where he obtained a B.A. degree in 1993.
09:06:12 He then attended the northern college.
09:06:22 He was ordained for the Diocese of St. Petersburg on
09:06:26 June 14, 1997.
09:06:28 During his four year tenure in Spring Hill, Florida, he
09:06:33 served as a number of the council and the regional seat
09:06:37 on the national board of the national federation of
09:06:40 priest councils.
09:06:40 Father troops studied in Rome at St. Thomas Aquinas in
09:06:49 2002, and Naples, Cabrine and Nairobi, was in Boynton
09:07:04 beach Florida,.
09:07:04 One year later he was promoted to Dean.
09:07:07 In addition to his responsibilities for a number of
09:07:09 articles he recently completed a bock called
09:07:12 proclaiming our priestly character.
09:07:17 In 2007, father accepted a position as social director
09:07:26 of the committee of clergy and vocations at the United
09:07:31 States conference of Catholic Bishops in Washington,
09:07:34 In his capacity, he served to the Bishops committee for
09:07:38 clergy, life and vocations.
09:07:40 Today we honor our father David troops.
09:07:44 Thank you, father.
09:07:45 >> Most importantly, I am a son of God and a citizen of
09:07:48 So very happy to be with you and pray together this
09:07:54 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Father, before we pray, would you also
09:07:55 remember those two fallen officers in St. Petersburg,
09:07:59 Also, Patty Iala whose son was lost on Monday night,
09:08:07 and Councilwoman Miller had a death in her family.
09:08:11 Shall we rise and remain standing for the pledge of
09:08:14 >> Let us pray.
09:08:19 Good and gracious God, we ask your abundant blessings
09:08:24 upon us this day.
09:08:27 All those men and women called into public service to
09:08:30 serve the common good of our people, our city, of our
09:08:36 We pray for this City Council, that you always give
09:08:40 them wisdom, give them grace, give them your guidance.
09:08:47 We pray for all of those men and women in great need in
09:08:50 our city.
09:08:53 We pray for our educators.
09:08:55 We pray for those men and women who protect us.
09:09:02 We thank you for their selfless service.
09:09:05 We pray for those officers who have fallen in the line
09:09:08 of duty.
09:09:10 Grant them eternal rest.
09:09:12 Draw them unto you, O Lord.
09:09:15 We live up their families.
09:09:17 Give them strength and courage.
09:09:21 We pray, Lord, for a more just and equitable society,
09:09:26 that all men and women created in your image be treated
09:09:32 with equal dignity.
09:09:35 We pray for the safety of our city this weekend during
09:09:42 Protect all our citizens from any harm.
09:09:46 Keep them safe and draw them ever closer to you.
09:09:50 And bless the deliberations of this day.
09:09:56 We ask all of these prayers in your holy name.
09:10:00 And I will bless you according to our Catholic
09:10:03 May the Lord bless and protect you and may his face
09:10:07 shine upon you and be merciful to you and fill you with
09:10:10 his peace, the father and the son and the Holy Spirit.
09:10:15 God bless you all.
09:10:16 (Pledge of Allegiance).
09:10:33 >>THOMAS SCOTT: We'll have roll call.
09:10:36 >>JOSEPH P. CAETANO: Here.
09:10:39 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Present.
09:10:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Here.
09:10:41 >>MARY MULHERN: Here.
09:10:43 >>CURTIS STOKES: Present.
09:10:45 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Here.
09:10:46 Thank you very much.
09:10:48 Father, thank you for your presence and for that prayer
09:10:50 this morning.
09:10:51 Also, we have a memorandum from Councilwoman Gwen
09:10:55 Please be advised that I suffered the loss of my uncle,
09:11:01 Mr. Wells, Jr., and due to his funeral home, being held
09:11:07 this Thursday, I will be absent from the council
09:11:10 Please be advised that I have asked councilman Stokes
09:11:14 to make the presentation to the police Officer of the
09:11:16 So Councilwoman Miller will not be here due to loss in
09:11:20 her family.
09:11:21 And again, let us also remember Patti Iala, one of the
09:11:31 staff persons here at the city, lost her son on Monday
09:11:39 Is Shawn Harris here from Plant High School to be here
09:11:46 to observe the operation of city government, see how it
09:11:48 functions and how it works.
09:11:52 Thank you.
09:11:53 Mr. Harris.
09:11:55 At this time, the chair will yield to the honorable
09:11:57 Curtis Stokes.
09:12:07 >>CURTIS STOKES: This morning we are here to honor the
09:12:08 police Officer of the Month.
09:12:10 And I have the honorable Chief Castor.
09:12:17 >> Good morning, council.
09:12:19 It's my pleasure to start the year off with one of
09:12:21 Tampa's finest.
09:12:23 We are recognize being sergeant Bob Nassief this month.
09:12:30 We rarely bring supervisors to this function.
09:12:32 We usually save this for officers and detectives.
09:12:34 But sergeant Nassief is one of our best.
09:12:41 He supervises a squad which is usually comprised of
09:12:45 younger officer.
09:12:46 I like to say midnights are the best shifts if it
09:12:51 wasn't for the hours.
09:12:51 So people out there doing that work have my eternal
09:12:56 Sergeant Nassief has been with the Tampa police for 28
09:12:59 He is an amazing individual and leader as well.
09:13:03 As you may or may not know, he supervises squads that
09:13:07 Dave Curtis and Jeff Kocab were on the night they were
09:13:12 He does an amazing job.
09:13:14 You know how people are going to stand up in the face
09:13:17 of adversity and in this case tragedy and he did an
09:13:20 amazing job with that.
09:13:21 His patience and perseverance and leadership to work
09:13:25 through that adversity while producing a top producing
09:13:31 He has a very strong presence.
09:13:32 He has a very calming demeanor and he was able to pull
09:13:36 all of those squad members together and keep them
09:13:38 focused on the job.
09:13:41 I'll read just two examples of what he did recently.
09:13:47 He pulled a car over for an inoperative taillight, with
09:13:50 I is just a minor traffic infraction, and we encourage
09:13:53 our officers to do that.
09:13:54 As you know, officer Dave Curtis pulled the car over
09:13:58 for a minor traffic infraction on the night he was
09:14:02 The passenger fled and sergeant Nassief being very wise
09:14:07 and seasoned grabbed the driver who did not run and
09:14:10 brought in canine air service, everybody else to look
09:14:12 for the individual who ran.
09:14:14 While he was talking to the driver, he interrogated
09:14:16 him, got the name of the passenger, recalled that he
09:14:20 had just seen a bulletin out of district 2 that
09:14:23 indicated the passenger was wanted, they wanted to
09:14:28 interview him in reference to some crimes that had been
09:14:30 committed in district 2.
09:14:31 He also had a local pickup for violation on an armed
09:14:37 He was on probation for battery on a law enforcement
09:14:40 officer and picked up for fleeing and eluding the
09:14:44 Based on sergeant Nassief's excellent ability to bring
09:14:48 the troops around, set up a perimeter, bring in the
09:14:51 units, canine was able to locate this individual and he
09:14:53 was sent off to prison where he belonged.
09:14:57 The second instance was the mega supermarket on
09:15:01 It had suffered burglaries in previous weeks.
09:15:04 So sergeant massive went down to be do surveillance.
09:15:07 He put his car in an area that couldn't be seen.
09:15:10 Sure enough the supermarket was being burglarized.
09:15:13 He had seen the suspect come out with the property in
09:15:16 hand, set up a perimeter, called in the calvary, and
09:15:19 they were able to grab this individual.
09:15:22 He had a lengthy criminal history as well, and he was
09:15:26 subsequently sentenced to prison.
09:15:28 So that was -- those are just two of the examples of
09:15:31 what sergeant massive does day in and day out.
09:15:35 And his leadership, compassion and character shine very
09:15:39 brightly in TPD's darkest hour.
09:15:42 And I can tell you not only is he a fine police
09:15:45 officer, he's a great human being.
09:15:47 So it is my distinct honor to recognize sergeant
09:15:50 massive as the Officer of the Month for January 2011.
09:15:55 [ Applause ]
09:16:06 >>THOMAS SCOTT: We have other gifts and tokens of
09:16:11 >> Danny Lewis from Bill Currie Ford.
09:16:15 I suddenly how you got your nickname, Dragon Slayer.
09:16:20 I am honored to be able to present you this watch this
09:16:22 Thank you for your service.
09:16:24 >> Tampa Police Benevolent Association.
09:16:31 On behalf of the Tampa PBA, congratulations.
09:16:35 Here is a $100 gift card.
09:16:37 >> Good morning.
09:16:41 Joe Durkin with Bright House networks.
09:16:46 Thank you for your service.
09:16:49 On behalf of Bright House, this certificate for one
09:16:52 month free of all our services.
09:16:55 >> Florida Aquarium.
09:17:09 It's an honor on behalf of the Florida Aquarium to give
09:17:12 you an annual pass for four individuals.
09:17:15 >> From the Straz center, four tickets for you and your
09:17:27 family to see a show.
09:17:33 >> Steve Stickley representing Stepp's towing service.
09:17:37 On behalf of Jim, Todd, Judy Stepp, we really
09:17:42 appreciate everything you guys do out there putting
09:17:45 your lives on the line.
09:17:46 We really appreciate it.
09:17:47 We want to hand you this statute.
09:17:50 Thank you very much for that.
09:17:51 We also have a gift card to Lee Roy Selmon's.
09:17:56 >> These roses are not for you but for your significant
09:18:14 >> Those roses are early because we are going to send
09:18:18 you over to Bern's.
09:18:20 Is that okay?
09:18:22 And then go have lunch at Rigatoni he's.
09:18:26 And she can have your roses and picture taken at Bryn
09:18:31 Allen with the roses.
09:18:34 So you bet are put them in water.
09:18:36 Steve Michelini here on behalf of all those different
09:18:39 restaurants and institutions and Bryn Allen, Bern's,
09:18:44 and we would like to congratulate you for what you do
09:18:46 for us and protect us and keep us out of harm's way.
09:18:49 We appreciate you.
09:18:58 >> I would like to thank City Council, all the
09:19:01 businesses that recognize us.
09:19:06 It's just great.
09:19:07 Thank the chief and her staff for the support that they
09:19:09 give us.
09:19:10 I would like to extend a special thank you to major
09:19:14 honeywell and my chain of command, my current
09:19:19 My previous lieutenant was la gathero.
09:19:26 Through the good times and bad times, just nominal.
09:19:30 These incidents the chief described, we couldn't have a
09:19:33 successful conclusion if it weren't for a group effort
09:19:37 with every member of our squad to include canine
09:19:40 officer Sandy Newman and Dave Bartman, Dennis Rodriguez
09:19:45 and the rest of the squad that came to my assistance
09:19:47 when I called for help.
09:19:48 It was once again a team effort that you just wouldn't
09:19:52 believe how it operates, and how smoothly it did come
09:19:55 to conclusion.
09:19:59 Finally, last but not least I would thank my wife.
09:20:06 Those dozen roses.
09:20:10 Her being by my side for 24 years of documented
09:20:14 marriage, that is.
09:20:15 [ Laughter ]
09:20:18 A couple of years there.
09:20:22 [ Laughter ]
09:20:23 But she stood by my side along with my daughter, too,
09:20:27 because she attends college in Orlando.
09:20:29 But they have both been very supportive.
09:20:33 17 years as a sergeant.
09:20:34 My wife really never complained about me being on the
09:20:37 midnight shift.
09:20:38 The chief assured me with that kind of seniority I'm
09:20:41 right around the corner I should be on a day shift.
09:20:48 I keep my fingers crossed.
09:20:50 No, my wife for 24 years of marriage has stood by my
09:20:54 side through the best of times and the darkest that
09:20:57 recently passed and for that I am so lucky.
09:21:00 I just want to say thank you so much.
09:21:03 [ Applause ]
09:21:05 >> At this time I would call chief Ford for firefighter
09:21:25 of the quarter.
09:21:25 >> Good morning.
09:21:42 Happy new year to those of you that I have not had the
09:21:44 opportunity to speak to at this time.
09:21:51 It's my honor to present to you Tampa Fire Rescue's
09:21:54 firefighter of the quarter.
09:21:58 The individual that we have selected is a veteran
09:22:01 firefighter with the City of Tampa fire rescue with
09:22:04 almost 30 years of service.
09:22:06 This individual has distinguished himself in a duty and
09:22:10 service and commitment to this community and
09:22:14 specifically at this point as almost our ambassador of
09:22:17 Tampa Fire Rescue.
09:22:18 He's the first line officer that any potential hiree or
09:22:23 any potential employee coming on Tampa Fire Rescue, the
09:22:27 first officer that they get the opportunity to address
09:22:32 and learn who is running.
09:22:35 He literally sets the pace or sets the table, if you
09:22:39 will, for the type of officer and the type of program
09:22:42 and the regimented organization that Tampa Fire Rescue
09:22:48 Captain Mauger has distinguished himself in a line of
09:22:51 professional services.
09:22:52 Just last year alone, he personally interviewed over
09:22:57 1200 applicants for about 50 positions, and with the
09:23:02 rigorous positions of employment process that these
09:23:05 individuals have to go through, he does that with the
09:23:09 utmost professionalism, and each one of those
09:23:12 individuals have are given the absolutely care and
09:23:16 courtesy with respect to that application process.
09:23:18 Many times he is the one that makes the phone call to
09:23:21 let that individual know that they have been successful
09:23:25 in their employment application.
09:23:26 At the same time, he has to make that phone call to
09:23:29 those that say that they didn't quite make the cut.
09:23:31 So that's a very, very huge position there to do that.
09:23:35 And captain Mauger does it with the utmost.
09:23:39 He worked his way through the ranks starting as a
09:23:42 firefighter, then being promoted to paramedic, then to
09:23:46 lieutenant, and subsequently the captain's position
09:23:48 that he hold now.
09:23:49 He has also presented his skills to maintain and manage
09:23:54 a number of particular areas within the personnel
09:23:57 division, and he has basically trained and worked in
09:24:02 close proximity with the last five personnel chiefs for
09:24:05 Tampa Fire Rescue.
09:24:08 Captain Mauger on his off-duty work has been teaching
09:24:12 for the Hillsborough community college for more than 20
09:24:14 years in the areas of medical positions and paramedic,
09:24:20 and many of the EMTs and paramedics that work with
09:24:23 our agencies and multiple agencies within the Tampa Bay
09:24:26 area had to go through his course and have successfully
09:24:30 become proficient in those duties.
09:24:32 For those reasons and for this purpose it is my honor
09:24:35 to present to you this morning Tampa Fire Rescue's
09:24:39 firefighter of the quarter, our own captain Don Mauger.
09:24:45 [ Applause ]
09:24:50 He's accompanied by his lovely wife Cheryl, his mother
09:24:54 and their friend Robert.
09:25:01 >>CURTIS STOKES: I would like to present with you this
09:25:03 plaque, this commendation.
09:25:05 Thank you very much.
09:25:05 >> Tom wagman from flab aquarium, passes for you and
09:25:21 your family.
09:25:22 >> Danny Lewis, Bill Currie Ford.
09:25:27 I guess you know -- congratulations and enjoy this
09:25:41 >> Joe during in, BrightHouse Networks.
09:25:48 Certificate for three months services for all of our
09:25:52 On behalf of Bright House, thank you for your
09:25:54 professionalism and years of service.
09:25:58 Tampa has been blessed to have its fire department.
09:26:10 >> Straz center.
09:26:14 Tickets to for you and your family to come to the
09:26:19 >> Congratulations.
09:26:21 Steve Stickley, Stepp's towing service on behalf of Jim
09:26:24 and Judy, Todd Stepp, I would like to present this
09:26:28 statute to you.
09:26:30 Almost 30 years of service.
09:26:32 It's quite an achievement there.
09:26:33 Also a gift certificate to Lee Roy Selmons.
09:26:36 >> My son Michael went through your course but he's a
09:26:54 firefighter in Orlando right now.
09:26:55 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'm not sure if he was complaining
09:27:03 or complimenting.
09:27:05 [ Laughter ]
09:27:06 The fundamentals of fire rescue and fire safety
09:27:09 obviously begin with education, and that's the first
09:27:11 line of defense.
09:27:13 And those that are dedicated to teaching hold probably
09:27:16 the highest esteem and should for this community in all
09:27:20 And because of that, we have tried to support the fire
09:27:24 department and the police department with the
09:27:28 firefighters of the quarter and the police officers of
09:27:30 the month.
09:27:31 We are going to provide you with lunch from Rigatoni's,
09:27:35 from Bryn Allen studios, photographic package, and from
09:27:39 Bern's steakhouse, the gift certificate so you can
09:27:41 enjoy dinner there with your wife.
09:27:44 And again, teachers are big in our hearts and we
09:27:50 appreciate what you do.
09:27:58 >> Jake Scohan, Tampa Firefighters Union local 754.
09:28:05 Captain Mauger he has been a member for 29 years and
09:28:09 hasn't missed one payment in those 29 years.
09:28:12 [ Laughter ]
09:28:15 I would like to present you with this plaque.
09:28:19 A gift certificate for a local restaurant.
09:28:31 >> I guess now it's my turn.
09:28:33 Councilman Stokes, Chairman Scott, City Council
09:28:37 members, thank you very much for honoring me today.
09:28:40 Chief Forward and your staff, thank you very much.
09:28:42 Chief Gonzalez for acknowledging me.
09:28:45 I appreciate that.
09:28:46 My wife and my mom.
09:28:51 I have done 29 years.
09:28:54 I retired eight months.
09:28:56 I will have 30 years at the end of eight months.
09:28:59 It been a great career.
09:29:01 I couldn't have done it without the support of my
09:29:03 family and the rest of the people that you see here.
09:29:07 I thank the community for allowing me to participate
09:29:09 and be a member of this fine city and the organization
09:29:13 that I work for which happens to be Tampa fire, which
09:29:16 is probably the best fire department in the state, if
09:29:19 not the United States.
09:29:20 So I thank you very much.
09:29:22 And it's a distinct honor, and I'm very humbled by the
09:29:25 Thank you.
09:29:27 [ Applause ]
09:29:38 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you very much for your service.
09:29:44 Council, we do have in our presence several of the high
09:29:51 schools who have done well.
09:29:57 And so what we are going to do, we are going to ask
09:30:00 each of the council persons if they can hold it down --
09:30:03 if they can hold it down we would appreciate it.
09:30:04 Worry still in session
09:30:07 I ask each of the council to make two presentations at
09:30:11 this time, so each of you will call both principals up
09:30:14 and recognize them and make whatever comments you
09:30:19 We will start with Councilwoman Mary Mulhern.
09:30:27 I want to recognize school board member Olson who is
09:30:30 here, and the opportunity for some words after the
09:30:35 Thank you.
09:30:35 >>MARY MULHERN: I have the honor of presenting these
09:30:42 commendations to Riverview High School, principal
09:30:46 Robert Heilmann.
09:31:01 This is for you and your staff and your students for
09:31:04 their great performance and bringing your school up in
09:31:09 the ratings to, I believe, an "A" school.
09:31:12 Very proud of you.
09:31:17 Thank you.
09:31:18 And I would like to present this commendation to
09:31:20 Wharton high school, principal Brantley Woods.
09:31:26 [ Applause ]
09:31:32 City Council commends you, your staff and your students
09:31:34 on their great performance and great grade that they
09:31:39 brought the school up to in the last year.
09:31:41 Thank you.
09:31:47 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Councilman Miranda.
09:31:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, honorable
09:32:03 members of City Council.
09:32:04 I'm very proud today to be here with the principal
09:32:07 Sharon Morris of east bay.
09:32:10 I believe that's the eagles, if I remember.
09:32:12 And principal Robert Nelson from Plant High School.
09:32:15 And I believe I know that's the panthers.
09:32:22 [ Applause ]
09:32:25 I stand corrected for my 12,200th time.
09:32:31 It's the Indians.
09:32:32 I'm honored this morning because this is about
09:32:36 There's nothing wrong with sports, but good people like
09:32:38 this and good students in the schools sometimes are put
09:32:43 on page 3 of a two-page newspaper.
09:32:46 Let me say this, both to Sharon Morris and to Robert
09:32:50 Nelson from east bay and from Plant High School.
09:32:53 The members of this City Council take great pleasure in
09:32:56 recognizing and commending both of you, your staff at
09:33:01 both schools, plant high and east bay high, for
09:33:05 improvements, tremendous improvements that your
09:33:08 students have made, and the God grades in becoming an
09:33:13 overachieving school.
09:33:14 We are very proud of each and every one of you.
09:33:17 And I know plant especially does well because I have
09:33:19 four granddaughters there.
09:33:20 So I'm very proud of both of you, your schools, your
09:33:25 faculty, your members.
09:33:26 I commend you both for your successes and your
09:33:32 [ Applause ]
09:33:59 >>YVONNE CAPIN: It is my honor to call up principal
09:34:02 Maria Whelan, and principal Carla Bruning, King High
09:34:18 Again, I had the honor at being at King High school
09:34:22 last Friday, and we dedicated 50 trees that were being
09:34:26 planted in and around the school, that were contributed
09:34:30 by parks and recreation, and Gaither high school.
09:34:36 I have three nephews graduated from Gaither high
09:34:39 And it is my pleasure to present these to you.
09:34:41 Thank you.
09:34:46 [ Applause ]
09:35:10 >>JOSEPH P. CAETANO: It's my honor to present to
09:35:12 Rebecca Fitzgerald, principal of Newsome high school.
09:35:19 [ Applause ]
09:35:23 I want to thank you for your service, as we have a
09:35:26 great fire department, police department, we also have
09:35:29 a great school department.
09:35:31 Thank you very much.
09:35:32 >> Thank you.
09:35:45 >>CURTIS STOKES: At this time I would like to recognize
09:35:47 a personal friend of mine, a gentleman who exemplifies
09:35:52 the new era of educators, Mr. Owen Young, Middleton
09:35:57 high school.
09:36:01 [ Applause ]
09:36:14 >>THOMAS SCOTT: And the last two, council, it's my
09:36:16 pleasure to invite up Jake Russell from Sickles high
09:36:23 school, and also Jacqueline Haynes, also a member of my
09:36:36 Indeed it is an honor to be able to present and
09:36:39 recognize all of these high schools today for their
09:36:41 outstanding accomplishments and achievements.
09:36:45 And we are very proud of the Hillsborough County school
09:36:50 system and the high schools for these academic
09:36:53 achievements and accomplishments.
09:36:54 Also, Ms. Haines, now that your congregation and your
09:37:01 church and your pastor is very proud of you, and the
09:37:04 accomplishments you have done at Blake high school.
09:37:06 Almost every Sunday we talk about excellence and
09:37:08 striving for excellence, and therefore you have been
09:37:13 listening to my sermons.
09:37:15 So we salute you today, and we salute principal Jake
09:37:19 Russell who is not here, but we have Gail Bottone
09:37:25 standing in for him.
09:37:26 So I just want to say how very proud we are of all of
09:37:31 you today, and want to recognize you and show you our
09:37:36 gratitude and how proud we are.
09:37:40 We are very proud of the accomplishments and
09:37:45 achievements, and our prayers are with you.
09:37:46 I am going to invite all the rest of the principals to
09:37:49 come for a word to say and take a picture together.
09:37:53 Also we have the administration to bring words as well.
09:38:00 Will you all come?
09:38:01 And if you have any words to say
09:38:07 >> I would like to say thank you to Chairman Scott,
09:38:11 also pastor Scott, and to the other City Council
09:38:15 members for this recognition at this time.
09:38:18 All of my peers, we all work very hard to make our
09:38:22 school system the best.
09:38:24 We have great leadership, with Mrs. Olson as our school
09:38:30 board member, and also miss Otero is here and Ms. Ty is
09:38:36 here, our superintendents.
09:38:37 We have the best school system in the country with the
09:38:41 leadership of superintendent Mary Ellen ELIA.
09:38:45 So we are so proud to be part of the school system and
09:38:48 to be principals.
09:38:50 Our work days are from seven until the next morning
09:38:55 So we are constantly working hard to make our schools
09:38:58 the best in Hillsborough County.
09:39:00 Thank you, Commissioner Scott.
09:39:01 >> Good morning.
09:39:08 I really appreciate your recognizing some of our very
09:39:11 best principals.
09:39:13 Since I'm a K-12 person, I have to say they couldn't do
09:39:16 it without all the elementary and middle school
09:39:20 principals who prepare the kids to go ton school and do
09:39:23 so well.
09:39:23 I think some people think it's easy to teach, it's easy
09:39:25 to run a school, if you can add 2 and 2 then you know
09:39:29 how to teach.
09:39:30 Not so much.
09:39:31 And our principals have to be instructional leaders
09:39:34 which means they have to help every teacher reach every
09:39:37 child every day.
09:39:38 There's no other country in the world that wants every
09:39:41 child to graduate from high school.
09:39:43 There's no other country that even tries.
09:39:45 We are very proud of our graduation rate.
09:39:48 It's in large part because of these folks.
09:39:52 And I think it's really important to recognize the hard
09:39:54 work that they do.
09:39:57 They work all hours, and then they maybe go home and
09:40:00 have dinner and get called back, or they are in the
09:40:03 middle of a soccer game that gets canceled, or they
09:40:06 have vandalism.
09:40:08 And all those things happen in addition to the work
09:40:11 they have to do every day.
09:40:13 It's not an easy job.
09:40:14 They deal with hysterical parents and occasionally
09:40:17 hysterical school board members, and they all do it
09:40:20 very elegantly.
09:40:22 So we really appreciate your recognition.
09:40:25 [ Applause ]
09:40:27 And my colleague Dr. Stacy white who is most recently
09:40:32 elected member of the school board is here, too.
09:40:34 >> Thank you, council members.
09:40:39 I just would like to thank you today for recognizing
09:40:43 our outstanding schools from throughout the county.
09:40:46 We often forget that the unincorporated areas of
09:40:51 Hillsborough County and the other municipalities
09:40:53 throughout Hillsborough County should have a
09:40:57 collaborative relationship with the City of Tampa.
09:40:59 And I certainly think that we do.
09:41:02 And your recognition of these schools from the eastern
09:41:05 portion of the county that I represent is very much
09:41:09 So on behalf of superintendent ELIA's staff and the
09:41:15 school board, I would like to congratulate all of the
09:41:17 principals, especially the principals from district 4
09:41:21 that I recommend -- I don't know why I keep saying
09:41:26 recommend -- that I represent.
09:41:27 Thank you so much for your hard work and your
09:41:29 dedication to our school district.
09:41:30 Thank you.
09:41:34 [ Applause ]
09:41:36 >>THOMAS SCOTT: If we can have everybody come and take
09:41:37 a quick picture with the superintendents real quick.
09:41:39 Come forward.
09:41:46 P . thank you, council.
09:43:07 Thank you all very much.
09:43:08 We will move to the first item for the workshop for the
09:43:11 morning, I believe that is the bicycle workshop on
09:43:20 bicycles, and what I would like to do is ask Mary
09:43:24 Mulhern to introduce this.
09:43:26 This is an item that she has continually worked hard
09:43:29 I would like to recognize her to introduce this item.
09:43:32 Go ahead.
09:43:33 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
09:43:37 This is a great example of city, county transportation,
09:43:42 the MPO, and the City Council, and county commission
09:43:46 coming together to try to solve a terrible safety issue
09:43:53 that we have had in the city over the last six months.
09:43:58 We have had, I believe, six or seven bicycle fatalities
09:44:05 of bike riders on the streets dying because of
09:44:12 And we have had a lot of work going into this plan that
09:44:17 we hopefully will be adopting very soon together with
09:44:20 the county and the city.
09:44:24 So I believe we are going to start with a presentation
09:44:27 from Gina Torres from the MPO, the metropolitan
09:44:30 planning organization, and she's going to explain to us
09:44:34 the plan, the bicycle safety action plan.
09:44:41 Jean Dorzback?
09:44:44 >> Yes, this is a group effort.
09:44:47 Gina will be presenting the multi-agency multitask
09:44:51 force group that we have.
09:44:52 We have got a number of stakeholders here with TPD, the
09:44:59 We did want to ask and request -- Gina does have a
09:45:02 brief PowerPoint that's loaded in next door.
09:45:05 We didn't quite meet the deadline to get that submitted
09:45:08 and make the request to the chair to use that.
09:45:10 If you indulge us, we have got that ready and I will
09:45:14 let Gina go through the presentation and we'll take
09:45:17 whatever questions you have.
09:45:17 >> Thank you, Mary.
09:45:30 There were a an alarming number of bike fatalities last
09:45:34 year, and you guys, I don't want to ask one more time
09:45:37 but you can see my presentation, right?
09:45:40 So there were a lot of concerns, City Council obviously
09:45:45 had, and the Board of County Commissioners really just
09:45:48 decided to step up and ask the public works department,
09:45:51 let's do something.
09:45:52 What can we do to make it safer for these cyclists out
09:45:56 on the road?
09:45:57 So the MPO with the city joined in.
09:45:59 We quickly got together a project team to come up with
09:46:02 solutions, let's make it safer out there
09:46:06 So what we did is we decided to begin putting together
09:46:10 bicycle safety action plan.
09:46:12 It's mirrored after pedestrian action safety plan which
09:46:15 is really well done and we thought this is great, it
09:46:18 has very definitive action plans, people that can
09:46:22 actually go something.
09:46:33 And what's going on with our crashes here?
09:46:37 Their trends show a fluctuation, and the graph 2010, I
09:46:44 think you would have seen a spike, but overall, we are
09:46:46 still well above the national average even when we do
09:46:49 have a lower year of bike crash fatalities.
09:46:52 And the most severe crashes, to reduce the one photo in
09:46:57 the red and the purple.
09:46:58 So where are the crashes happening?
09:46:59 All over the place, all over the county.
09:47:01 But 70% of them are in this kind of area here and it's
09:47:06 bound by Sheldon and 75 and Fowler and Kennedy.
09:47:09 And then you start to see some corridors, some roadway
09:47:13 sections that are really coming to the surface, where
09:47:16 people are getting hit.
09:47:17 And these are people -- and you can make the assumption
09:47:21 these are people trying to get to a job, or to an
09:47:24 appointment, because they are using the regular roads.
09:47:27 This is not really an exercise.
09:47:31 They are not re-creating.
09:47:33 This is transportation.
09:47:34 So that's where the crashes occur, and who is getting
09:47:37 You might be surprised, I don't know, but 25 to
09:47:41 50-year-olds make up the most number of people being
09:47:45 hit and maybe employed getting to their jobs, and they
09:47:48 are of driving age but they bicycle.
09:47:50 So we have done a lot of analysis.
09:47:52 This mapping series shows you the race and ethnicity of
09:47:56 the cyclists getting hit, and it's throughout the
09:48:01 Just some interesting crash analysis that we did so we
09:48:03 can move forward with coming up with solutions.
09:48:06 So that was where and who is getting hit.
09:48:08 Now why are they getting hit?
09:48:10 One of the crash types, this is when a motorist comes
09:48:13 out from either a side street or a driveway, and it's
09:48:18 not a signalized intersection.
09:48:21 Well, it also needs to be noted that the cyclist more
09:48:23 than likely was riding against the flow of traffic in
09:48:26 this situation, which is illegal when they are in the
09:48:29 It's not illegal on the sidewalk, but in a minute we
09:48:35 will have a few of the action items I will go over.
09:48:37 We'll try to combat this particular crash problem.
09:48:43 You have probably seen this yourselves.
09:48:45 It's a cyclist kind of crosses the road when you are
09:48:48 not expecting them.
09:48:50 But a cyclist decides to make their turn.
09:48:55 Then that's more serious crashes, more night-time
09:48:59 crashes happen where a motorist overtakes, going the
09:49:02 same direction, but where the cyclist is not wearing
09:49:08 proper colors or lights aren't on the bike.
09:49:10 This is a common cause as well.
09:49:12 And our solutions will combat those. so all in all
09:49:16 basically they are all across the board, motorists,
09:49:19 cyclists, people aren't doing things right, and when we
09:49:24 focus our efforts you will see that we are trying to
09:49:26 reach everybody.
09:49:30 Nighttime crashes, most of the fatalities are happening
09:49:32 at night, again when cyclists aren't equipped many
09:49:35 times with lights, the motorists are distracted or
09:49:38 speeding so there's kind of fault everywhere.
09:49:41 So what do we do now?
09:49:42 We have two, three public workshops, even brought in a
09:49:45 national expert, now in San Francisco, but Michael
09:49:50 showed us some countermeasures that will help.
09:49:56 Michael Moula.
09:49:58 People could make a commitment and say, yes, we think
09:50:00 that we can do this.
09:50:01 This is what we are doing already.
09:50:04 Breakout sessions.
09:50:05 Citizens are present.
09:50:06 Activists, or just cycle-interested people.
09:50:10 So we had some really good input.
09:50:11 So after these workshops, we developed goals,
09:50:15 strategies, objectives.
09:50:15 I am not going through those.
09:50:17 But from the strategies we have specific action that we
09:50:20 can do right away.
09:50:21 And this will combat some of those crashes that I
09:50:26 It's a pest example.
09:50:28 The picture shows what we are talking about. This is
09:50:30 going against the flow of traffic legally, but they
09:50:33 shouldn't really be there.
09:50:34 We need to educate the motorists and cyclists.
09:50:37 It probably isn't the best place to be riding.
09:50:39 And this is probably one of the best solutions I think.
09:50:43 And these are low-cost.
09:50:45 This is something that we came up with, the stop sign
09:50:48 could be actually placed on the back of the sign.
09:50:51 You are not paying for another pole and another sign.
09:50:53 You put a sticker on the back of it, or maybe mount
09:50:56 another sign.
09:50:58 And we think if we get more of these out, this is at
09:51:01 least going to solve some of those problems.
09:51:04 And law enforcement has been great, and we just need
09:51:07 them to continue doing what they are doing when people
09:51:10 aren't behaving properly.
09:51:11 They were on board and they were there with us.
09:51:14 I want to mention, we had officers that were -- well,
09:51:20 I'll tell you what.
09:51:23 They are really interested.
09:51:24 And we have an idea.
09:51:27 But this is a piece that we have to get out to people.
09:51:32 The cyclists wearing blue, a motorist is not going to
09:51:35 see them at nighttime until they are 50 feet or so
09:51:39 This is an incredible difference if they are dressed
09:51:41 properly so we can get some education out.
09:51:43 These are things we think we can do in the first year
09:51:45 or so.
09:51:46 Long-term, there's a crash that we see that motorists
09:51:51 pass the cyclist and turn right in front.
09:51:53 Well, in this case the cyclist feels they should be on
09:51:57 the shoulder and the right turn is in front of them.
09:51:59 We should maybe have more of these and this would be
09:52:02 done at an intersection.
09:52:04 That car turning right is not going to hit them because
09:52:06 they are going to be in the proper location.
09:52:09 These are fairly inexpensive, if you are working on a
09:52:12 road and resurfacing, put the stripe in the right
09:52:16 If there are crashes going out in an intersection it's
09:52:20 maybe because they are not tripping the light green and
09:52:22 there are these little things they can do where a
09:52:25 cyclist can pull up and the light will turn green so
09:52:28 they don't go across.
09:52:29 Some other things in the next couple of years -- and we
09:52:31 have seen this.
09:52:32 There's plenty of samples downtown, the D.O.T.
09:52:35 If you take out maybe narrow lanes, and with the median
09:52:40 and the motorist lanes, now we have bike lanes.
09:52:45 This isn't a very popular thing probably in the City of
09:52:46 Tampa, but here is an example of just taking parking on
09:52:50 one side, and a bike lane used to be on both side of
09:52:53 the road so people don't go against the flow.
09:52:58 So these are just some solutions.
09:52:59 Your transportation department is probably even more
09:53:02 suitable for this because the city doesn't have that
09:53:04 many roads that are going to be widened, and this is
09:53:07 retrofitting things that are already existing.
09:53:09 The City of Tampa was the first in the State of Florida
09:53:10 to use this symbol.
09:53:12 It's paint.
09:53:13 And it's the cost of paint basically.
09:53:16 And if this can be put in where there's already
09:53:19 existing bike lanes on either end, let's use this,
09:53:23 perhaps that will be a good solution, and once we
09:53:26 educate everyone, it kind of gives them an idea that we
09:53:29 are all sharing the road together.
09:53:30 And this is new roads.
09:53:33 And the standard are very good about adding bike lanes
09:53:37 and such.
09:53:37 Another short-term strategy, we are going to do some
09:53:40 bike audits.
09:53:41 And you will see some results of that in the future.
09:53:43 Really looking specifically at the total corridors,
09:53:47 very specific crash mitigation things that we can do.
09:53:49 And then I think this immediately we are doing this
09:53:54 right now, looking for grants.
09:53:56 This is what I was going to tell you that I made you
09:53:59 wait, but we can buy a bunch of bicycle lights through
09:54:03 grants, the police officers on the midnight shifts, I
09:54:06 would hand them out in a second.
09:54:08 You pull somebody over.
09:54:09 You don't necessarily have to ticket them or give them
09:54:11 a warning.
09:54:12 Give them a light.
09:54:13 Or a kit that has this vest on it.
09:54:16 So we are going to do some of these quick things.
09:54:18 When this plan gets presented back to the Board of
09:54:20 County Commissioners, who really kind of initiate it, I
09:54:24 want to bring it back to the council and the city.
09:54:26 We would like to have it approved or endorsed and then
09:54:30 have a press conference, and the officers, we like to
09:54:33 get Chief Castor and the elected officials, we would
09:54:36 love for you guys, if you can make it probably at the
09:54:40 beginning of March, because this is my last slide.
09:54:42 We have three public workshops scheduled the end of
09:54:46 February, so like in the beginning of March we would
09:54:48 like to then have this whole thing kind of kicked off
09:54:51 at the press conference.
09:54:52 So we will have some more public input, and hopefully
09:54:56 really have the action items are going to be
09:54:59 And we have a lot of support from the agencies that
09:55:01 build things to do it.
09:55:02 So if you have any questions.
09:55:08 Thank you.
09:55:08 >>> (away from microphone)
09:55:19 >>MARY MULHERN: Allen, his group, which is the
09:55:33 southwest Florida bicycle united?
09:55:38 >> You got it.
09:55:39 >> They are also bikers, not those kind of bikers shall
09:55:42 not like hell's angels, but bicyclists who are using
09:55:49 riding bikes for commuting and recreation, and Allen
09:55:53 really spearheaded getting this started.
09:55:55 So I think he has done a lot of reeven and would like
09:55:59 to hear from him.
09:56:00 >> Thank you.
09:56:01 I want to thank City Council for having this workshop
09:56:05 and for embracing this issue.
09:56:06 I have lived here seven years, and to the best of my
09:56:09 knowledge nothing like this has happened before.
09:56:11 So I really commend you folks for tackling this issue
09:56:14 and I appreciate the time and all the staff that has
09:56:18 been working on this.
09:56:20 I support the suggestions that Gina summarized, and I
09:56:25 think they are sound and sensible.
09:56:28 I think they are an outstanding positive first step
09:56:33 towards dealing with bicycle issues in the metropolitan
09:56:36 Tampa area.
09:56:37 I also think it's an ideal opportunity to also use this
09:56:41 as a launching opportunity to put in especially some of
09:56:45 these shared road markings that Gina showed on roads
09:56:48 that are traveled by bicyclists, especially routes that
09:56:53 people take from South Tampa to downtown and from
09:56:55 downtown to the USF campus.
09:56:57 I'm happy to talk to you about some of the roads that
09:57:00 most bicyclists do take, and that I take, that could be
09:57:07 candidates for those shared road markings.
09:57:11 There are a couple bicyclists here who I happy will
09:57:14 have an opportunity just to save one or two minutes
09:57:18 worth of comments, especially someone from Seminole
09:57:20 Heights that actually is log at using bicycle
09:57:24 transportation to link neighborhood and parks from
09:57:27 downtown up through Seminole Heights and also to the
09:57:30 USF campus.
09:57:32 So I think that's important, too.
09:57:35 But my comments is that really, this is an ideal time
09:57:41 now to move forward.
09:57:42 I can tell you that people on the street are very
09:57:46 concerned about this particular issue.
09:57:50 Not only, I think, do we need to address safety issues,
09:57:54 we need to also address the safety issues within the
09:57:56 broader context of building a bicycle-friendly city.
09:58:00 And that means all -- hitting everything.
09:58:03 It means awareness.
09:58:05 It means media campaigns.
09:58:07 Better engineered roads.
09:58:08 More education.
09:58:09 And I pledge my support and helping you guys do that.
09:58:14 I appreciate your time.
09:58:16 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you.
09:58:26 Come up.
09:58:26 Who is next?
09:58:30 I was trying to get all the presentations because we do
09:58:34 have opportunity for public comments.
09:58:35 I don't want to interrupt the flow.
09:58:39 We'll have presentations and then public comment.
09:58:48 >>JEAN DORZBACK: Transportation.
09:58:48 I don't have anything further to present.
09:58:51 I did just want to mention another component of the
09:58:56 bicycle/pedestrian issue.
09:59:01 We have a study being conducted currently.
09:59:03 It's actually an outshoot of the adoption of a
09:59:06 comprehensive plan for next year, and we have the
09:59:10 generous support and funding through the MPO for this
09:59:14 called the walk bike plan.
09:59:16 As a subset of this bigger bicycle safety action plan,
09:59:21 and that has been going on for a few months now,
09:59:24 Tyndall Oliver, our consultant.
09:59:26 I want to mention this plan will be done in the next
09:59:28 couple of months.
09:59:29 We'll outline sidewalks and bicycle projects that we
09:59:32 are going to be looking to fund through a capital
09:59:36 improvement program, and that will also interface with
09:59:39 a multimodal roadway plan that we have currently
09:59:42 underway as well.
09:59:43 And we are lag to have that roadway plan layered in
09:59:47 with the bike plans so that we have a comprehensive
09:59:51 We'll have the roadway projects can support some of the
09:59:54 bicycle projects that we want to do and make sure all
09:59:56 the linkages are appropriate.
09:59:59 This walk bike plan is majoring on our Westshore area,
10:00:05 downtown, and the USF area.
10:00:07 And we are going to be looking to do a phase 2 of this
10:00:11 to address the other portions of the city as a second
10:00:14 So just want to mention that's also ongoing.
10:00:17 We will be looking to give you more detailed
10:00:18 information on that as it gets further down the road.
10:00:21 >> Is Mr. Mill herer today?
10:00:27 >> Yes, he is.
10:00:28 >> Did we want him to give a brief --
10:00:31 >> We have that information available for you, if you
10:00:33 would like to get some of the highlights, he is here
10:00:36 and was prepared to do that.
10:00:37 >>MARY MULHERN: I think if we can give him a few
10:00:41 minutes, it would be great because the city actually is
10:00:43 doing a lot, and the study that they are working on,
10:00:49 they have been reporting to the MPO and working with
10:00:51 transportation staff.
10:00:52 But we are already doing a lot of this, and we are
10:00:54 doing it before these fatalities happen.
10:00:56 >> Yes.
10:00:58 This really started quite some time ago.
10:01:00 But it will be supportive of the bicycle safety plan
10:01:07 >> Can I ask you one question?
10:01:09 Because I know we have been talking about this for
10:01:11 years in regard to bicycles.
10:01:13 But the restriping of roads, are we to the point now in
10:01:16 your department where when a road is getting resurfaced
10:01:20 we always study and try, at least attempt space to put
10:01:27 in a bicycle lane, or for a share road if that doesn't
10:01:31 >> Yes.
10:01:31 We are continuing that practice of communicating,
10:01:35 coordinating with our department of public works
10:01:37 through their paving program.
10:01:39 We actually have a key project that we are getting
10:01:42 ready to start with in the next month.
10:01:44 It's North Boulevard complete street project.
10:01:47 It's going to go all the way from Cass Street, there's
10:01:52 a park in Osborne it will connect to.
10:01:54 It will be a combination of sharrows and bicycle lanes,
10:01:57 and that's going to be starting in the next month.
10:02:00 We are going to continue that practice of looking for
10:02:02 opportunities through a repaving program.
10:02:04 But we will also be looking at that so it will be
10:02:07 consistent with this walk bike master plan that we are
10:02:11 >> So between the walk bike master plan and the bicycle
10:02:16 safety action plan, perhaps there could be an
10:02:19 opportunity for us to write that into our
10:02:22 transportation code.
10:02:26 So we will wait till we get those results.
10:02:28 But that's way hope.
10:02:29 I think that's probably the most important thing
10:02:32 important thing council could do.
10:02:33 >>> We have a presentation but I'm not sure how to pull
10:02:43 it up.
10:02:44 >> State your name for the record, please.
10:02:45 >> My name is -- Miller with Oliver associates.
10:02:49 So wail do is hand it out to you real quick, if that's
10:02:53 all right.
10:02:53 >>THOMAS SCOTT: It's up on our screen.
10:03:18 >> The main point as Gina mentioned is this activity,
10:03:21 in addition westbound the bicycle safety action plan,
10:03:25 also implements the city's comprehensive plan and the
10:03:27 MPO long-range transportation plan.
10:03:30 As Gina noted the city's comprehensive plan identifies
10:03:33 three major growth areas, downtown, USF, Westshore.
10:03:36 And we understand that in order for those areas to
10:03:39 continue to develop, people not only need to get there
10:03:42 by driving or through the transit system but also to be
10:03:45 able to walk within and around those areas and to ride
10:03:48 their bikes.
10:03:49 So this plan starts in those areas and really
10:03:53 develops -- can be used to fill out the planning for
10:03:59 the remainder of the city.
10:04:01 The approach is how do I get from West Tampa into
10:04:05 downtown or from Temple Terrace into the USF campus.
10:04:08 And then key word is to identify constructible
10:04:11 projects, that can either be done through the sidewalk
10:04:13 programs, through the resurfacing program, or using
10:04:17 ongoing D.O.T. projects, or some of the MPO enhancement
10:04:23 But really we are trying to do things that can be done
10:04:25 quickly, and relatively cheaper.
10:04:28 So these are the study areas.
10:04:29 We basically did a two-mile radius working with people
10:04:32 like Al and others.
10:04:35 We understand there's a need for some of the longer
10:04:37 corridors to connect, for example, from USF to
10:04:40 But in this phase of looking at this, we are really
10:04:42 looking at the immediate vicinity of the three major
10:04:45 business centers.
10:04:46 Again, that has all been a process within the city.
10:04:52 We have been through stakeholder coordination.
10:04:54 We have assessed the priorities and really gone through
10:04:56 and looked at what's already being done.
10:04:59 We are in the process of evaluating our projects for
10:05:02 constructibility and cost.
10:05:03 And then once we identify the projects we want to do,
10:05:07 we are going to come back in and work with city staff
10:05:10 and also D.O.T. to make sure we have a sound
10:05:13 implementation plan.
10:05:15 And what I am going to do is rather than looking at
10:05:18 each area I am going to use the agenda because I
10:05:24 understand you have a lot on your agenda today.
10:05:26 The red lines represent projects that have been
10:05:29 completed within the last five years or so.
10:05:30 You have got bike lanes on Tampa street now, Nebraska
10:05:34 Avenue, which was a huge success in terms of all types
10:05:37 of traffic safety, Palm Avenue, and bike lanes are part
10:05:41 of it.
10:05:42 And then other projects as well.
10:05:45 Jackson street, the riverwalk, which is an existing
10:05:49 ongoing project, Meridian, the North Boulevard project
10:05:54 which is going to begin shortly, as Jean mentioned is a
10:05:57 new prong for the city, 22nd street enhancements.
10:06:00 Part of it has to do with the Crosstown project.
10:06:04 And other projects the city is doing on its own.
10:06:06 Then bridge replacements.
10:06:07 I think we have heard a lot about these.
10:06:12 What's really exciting is those bridges are
10:06:14 reconstructed, the bicycle pedestrian facilities will
10:06:17 be improved.
10:06:18 Then also the Bayshore project which is forthcoming.
10:06:22 So given that these are things that are in the works,
10:06:25 and recent new set of projects.
10:06:31 Many things, for example, downtown, create north-south
10:06:36 Our focus has been on east-west connections.
10:06:38 And I am not going to go through each one.
10:06:40 But things like Rome Avenue, making a connection
10:06:42 through Columbus, Palm Avenue could go from four lanes
10:06:45 to two-lane roadway, bike lanes.
10:06:48 Those are the types of projects we are looking at.
10:06:50 We are doing this not only in the downtown but also the
10:06:52 Westshore area and the USF area.
10:06:54 And USF particularly we are looking at intersection
10:06:57 safety because of the high bicycle pedestrian crash
10:07:00 incidents there.
10:07:03 I skipped through these quickly because I don't want to
10:07:06 take too much of your time this morning.
10:07:08 Westshore is challenging because of connections.
10:07:11 Some of the really major roads there make it much more
10:07:15 difficult to create that kind of act at this time.
10:07:18 Nonetheless we think there's some projects that we can
10:07:20 Briefly, I'll point out the sidewalk at Hillsborough we
10:07:23 think is critical, and then also getting some sort of
10:07:27 facility along Boy Scout Spruce which is part of the
10:07:29 trails master plan the city has already developed.
10:07:32 From here forward, we need to go back and work with the
10:07:35 project management team which includes city
10:07:37 transportation staff, parks and rec, and MPO, also
10:07:40 coordinate closely with our partners at Florida D.O.T.,
10:07:43 and make sure that we have a good Sol I list of
10:07:45 projects to recommend going forward.
10:07:50 Constructibility reviews, for right-of-way acquisition
10:07:53 or stormwater work, things that can slow down a project
10:07:56 and increase cost.
10:07:57 Then finally looking at implementation plan and
10:07:59 identifies the needs, costwise, and also look to
10:08:04 existing city budget program areas, and the MPO funding
10:08:07 capacity to get these things done in a timely fashion.
10:08:10 We thank you very much for your time this morning.
10:08:11 >>MARY MULHERN: Could you include in your plan?
10:08:19 Do you do cost estimates in this?
10:08:20 >> Correct.
10:08:21 Part of the plan.
10:08:22 Once we work with staff to identify the short list of
10:08:24 projects and go through and make sure they are truly
10:08:27 feasible, we will be doing a cost estimation for them.
10:08:30 And in many cases, as Gina mentioned, to the extent we
10:08:34 can work things into the resurfacing program the
10:08:37 additional cost may be marginal.
10:08:38 >> That's what I was wondering about specifically.
10:08:40 If you could give us the cost of putting sharrows,
10:08:45 that's just -- you don't even have to restripe the
10:08:49 lane, right?
10:08:50 In the places where we are not necessarily going to be
10:08:53 doing resurfacing soon, but where there's a lot of
10:08:55 bicycle traffic, if those sharrows were just like -- it
10:09:01 seems like that's something we could do right away, and
10:09:06 on the roads where you have seen --
10:09:09 >> Yeah, I think the infrastructure cost to that is
10:09:12 Clearly if you do it as part of the resurface it's
10:09:15 cheaper because you do have some mobilization.
10:09:17 And then one aspect is making sure the traffic
10:09:20 characteristics are appropriate for that treatment.
10:09:22 That is something that has to be ab transportation
10:09:28 >>YVONNE CAPIN: On the same vein, which was along with
10:09:31 our resurfacing, which Ms. Dorzback said, that we are
10:09:38 talking about paint on the road, and that would be the
10:09:45 share road.
10:09:46 I live very close to Euclid, which that's exactly
10:09:49 what's on there.
10:09:51 And it serve twos purposes.
10:09:52 And it lets people know that this is also bicycle on
10:09:57 the road, and it's educational.
10:10:00 It remained you constantly that you are sharing, and I
10:10:14 would agree with Councilwoman Mulhern, that is
10:10:17 something we can implement right away.
10:10:20 Thank you.
10:10:20 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Tampa Police Department?
10:10:30 Do you want to make a presentation?
10:10:45 >> Captain, Tampa Police Department.
10:10:47 At the police department we are looking at enforcement.
10:10:51 We are hoping to remained some of our riders when we
10:10:55 are out and about that they need to have a helmet, they
10:10:59 need to have a light on their bike.
10:11:02 You know, sometimes we can give them a warning.
10:11:04 Sometimes we issue citations.
10:11:07 The other thing we are looking at is an education and
10:11:10 awareness program that you la into a few months back
10:11:18 and working on it and you understand the budget
10:11:23 We are looking at putting on the back windows of our
10:11:26 police cars some marking that would remind people that
10:11:29 we are sharing the road with other bicyclists.
10:11:33 And we have so many cars out there as the police
10:11:39 department that that's what we are hoping, to put that
10:11:41 on some of our cars just to remind people, hey, you
10:11:43 have to share the road with other people, too.
10:11:45 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay, very good.
10:11:48 Thank you.
10:11:48 >>MARY MULHERN: I heard about that yesterday and I was
10:11:51 wondering if it was something that we could get bumper
10:11:54 stickers done, so maybe -- I'm not sure, and I won't
10:12:00 belabor this because we can talk outside the meeting.
10:12:02 But figuring out how to apply for the grant, the idea
10:12:07 of getting police officers the lights to hand out to
10:12:09 the bicyclists when you are stopping them.
10:12:11 But maybe we could do a bumper sticker.
10:12:16 >>> License plates for the front of our police cars.
10:12:19 We thought about butcher stickers.
10:12:21 Some markings throughout the back of the window.
10:12:23 You know, anything we can do to avoid having to give
10:12:26 somebody a citation and make a friend instead of an
10:12:29 enemy, we are all for that.
10:12:31 >>MARY MULHERN: We really appreciate your help with
10:12:35 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you very much.
10:12:35 Let me raise a question.
10:12:36 Then we can go to public comment.
10:12:38 We don't have any other presenters.
10:12:40 Ms. Dorzback, I guess my question is, given that Tampa
10:12:43 is the leading city in the nation for bicycle
10:12:48 fatalities, have we looked at the cities that has the
10:12:53 least fatalities and see what it is that they are doing
10:12:58 and try to replicate that here?
10:13:01 >>JEAN DORZBACK: We haven't done a specific study in
10:13:04 that regard.
10:13:04 But we are doing that as part of our standard practice.
10:13:10 For example, the sharrows, we got that idea, if you
10:13:15 want to call it that, through another state through
10:13:17 doing the research, through our national information on
10:13:21 what other states are doing.
10:13:22 We have also gotten some information on different
10:13:26 signage that we are looking at using for different
10:13:29 So we don't have any specific study going on, but we
10:13:31 definitely -- as a standard practice look at national
10:13:35 ideas, signage, trend, and so forth.
10:13:39 >>THOMAS SCOTT: I understand that.
10:13:40 I just thought that since we are the leading city in
10:13:43 terms of fatalities that we look at the cities that
10:13:47 have the least fatalities and see what is it that they
10:13:51 are doing that will cause them to have the least
10:13:54 fatalities, and maybe duplicate some of the things that
10:13:57 they are doing.
10:13:58 I understand you are looking at various areas.
10:14:03 >>JEAN DORZBACK: We could do that.
10:14:04 It's hard sometimes in these different studies that
10:14:06 come out.
10:14:07 Sometimes you have apples and oranges, you know.
10:14:10 A city may have a low incidence because of their
10:14:14 population, the way the transportation system is.
10:14:17 It's not always necessarily a direct comparison.
10:14:20 And information we can use from others that's going to
10:14:22 help us in our planning, we definitely try to do that,
10:14:26 will continue to do that, and make a special point to
10:14:29 do that.
10:14:29 >>MARY MULHERN: Yeah, I want to give you more credit
10:14:32 than you are giving yourself because I think a lot of
10:14:34 the things we are talking about today, the road guys,
10:14:37 especially, I think especially in New York City where
10:14:40 they have made it, it's gone from the city where you
10:14:42 just had bicycle messengers to be a city where people
10:14:45 are riding their bikes a lot, they did road diets, they
10:14:51 did bicycle lane shares, all the things that we are
10:14:54 talking about today.
10:14:55 So I think you are modeling after some of those.
10:14:59 But it really is about the city making a commitment
10:15:05 overall to make this a bike-friendly city.
10:15:07 And if our transportation department has the support
10:15:10 and the go ahead from the administration to really look
10:15:14 at someplaces that have done it, they can do it.
10:15:17 So I think the more we encourage --
10:15:19 >> I think we have made that commitment, I believe, to
10:15:21 do that, given all the fatalities we have had lately,
10:15:25 and also as well as financing, as well as -- and I
10:15:30 think the MPO is a part of the partnership or part of
10:15:34 the agency that is working with us to help move us
10:15:38 forward, and as well to get oh some federal dollars.
10:15:41 So, yeah.
10:15:47 >>JEAN DORZBACK: And the big changing point was the
10:15:48 comprehensive plan that the council adopted.
10:15:50 That sets all these policies in place that really
10:15:53 changed our plan.
10:15:54 It used to be a transportation plan to the multimodal
10:15:57 And we have been working along that guide since that
10:16:01 So that's really what got the energy started, and we
10:16:06 really had things going on prior to some of the
10:16:09 unfortunate incidents we have had recently.
10:16:13 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you very much.
10:16:15 Now we'll take public comment.
10:16:16 You have three minutes.
10:16:19 State your name for the record, please.
10:16:20 >> Ed Tillou.
10:16:27 I live in north Tampa by Sulphur Springs.
10:16:30 I went to USF.
10:16:31 I have a degree, masters in industrial high Jean and
10:16:35 safety management.
10:16:36 I came down to speak mostly with respect to what I
10:16:38 think is item 6, if that's the panhandlers, and --
10:16:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Mr. Chairman --
10:16:49 >> That is a --
10:16:51 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Sir, sir, sir.
10:16:52 >> The bicycle issue.
10:16:54 It's very much a safety issue.
10:16:56 >>THOMAS SCOTT:
10:16:58 [Sounding gavel]
10:16:58 Sir, please.
10:16:59 I'm trying to get your attention.
10:17:00 Now legal is trying to address council.
10:17:02 >> Okay.
10:17:04 I'm trying to call attention --
10:17:07 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Sir, please.
10:17:08 >> I'm drawing on my safety background-and experience
10:17:15 and try to bring it --
10:17:18 >>THOMAS SCOTT: If you will just be quiet for a
10:17:19 moment, please, sir, and let me hear from legal.
10:17:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'm sorry to interrupt the speaker,
10:17:24 but he had referenced item number 6.
10:17:26 And I wanted the public to be aware this being a
10:17:29 workshop day, the time for public comment is following
10:17:31 each individual workshop item.
10:17:33 So if you can just --
10:17:35 >> That may be true, but one thing is a real safety
10:17:38 issue and one is an imaginary safety issue, and this is
10:17:42 the real safety issue.
10:17:44 The points I wanted to make, number one, a light on a
10:17:47 bicycle is very vague.
10:17:49 The taillight, as the accidents have shown, is much,
10:17:52 much more important than the headline light.
10:17:54 The headlight helps me as a pedestrian.
10:17:57 And I'm often a pedestrian along Nebraska Avenue.
10:18:04 Here and there, it's about a one-foot bicycle lane
10:18:08 that's only here and there.
10:18:11 It isn't like Hillsborough County that has well defined
10:18:15 bicycle lanes.
10:18:17 Nonetheless, the breaks are still up on the sidewalk
10:18:19 which causes a problem for those of us hitting
10:18:24 I used to be in a German bicycle sport club and we were
10:18:28 some of the first people to bring ten-speeds to the
10:18:30 United States and use them.
10:18:34 They are very fast.
10:18:35 What's even faster is bicycles with motors.
10:18:38 And I saw a bicycle with a motor going about 30 or 35
10:18:41 miles an hour against traffic.
10:18:44 Now, against 40 mile-an-hour traffic.
10:18:47 That's 75 miles an hour.
10:18:49 So the bicycles have got to be put with traffic.
10:18:54 Now, I think the police are very important in this
10:18:56 because they could stop bicycles on the sidewalk,
10:18:59 especially those going against traffic, in the traffic.
10:19:03 But they could stop them.
10:19:05 Look for -- advise them that that's a non-enforcement
10:19:12 issue because there aren't bicycle lanes, and there
10:19:15 haven't been a lot of complaints from pedestrians, but
10:19:17 to underscore the state laws are that the bicycles are
10:19:21 not supposed to be on the sidewalk.
10:19:24 And it's really a non-enforcement thing because nine
10:19:28 out of ten of the bicycles are very courteous and
10:19:32 worried about the pedestrians.
10:19:32 But one in ten thinks that's their right to be on the
10:19:36 sidewalk, very belligerent, and I think they need
10:19:40 public education.
10:19:42 As I say, many of the bicyclists are on the sidewalk.
10:19:46 And as I try to reconstruct admiral Collins' demise, I
10:19:51 think 90% of it was what was identified just before,
10:19:56 very wisely, that cars coming out, not stopping for
10:20:00 the -- coming all the way out, intending to turn, are
10:20:06 the real problem.
10:20:07 Now, there might have been a 10% contribution to the
10:20:10 accident by being on the sidewalk.
10:20:13 But as I say, going into a crosswalk, you see the
10:20:18 light, you go across.
10:20:21 So I think he was maybe 10% at fault in the accident.
10:20:26 But in any case, if the police stop, inform them, and
10:20:31 say, you know, you have done something against the law,
10:20:34 that gives them the ground to be ask --
10:20:37 (Bell sounds).
10:20:37 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay, thank you, sir.
10:20:39 Thank you.
10:20:39 Next speaker.
10:20:40 >> My name is Jim shirk.
10:20:52 I'm the chair of the Hillsborough County MPO bicycle
10:20:56 pedestrian advisory committee.
10:20:57 I would like to thank you very much for your sound
10:21:00 initiative in this area.
10:21:05 And also thank you very much for having a regional
10:21:09 Because this is a problem that doesn't have regional
10:21:13 Studies have been done, recommendations have been made,
10:21:16 and now it's time to show leadership.
10:21:20 All of you are candidates for election or reelection.
10:21:22 And I would like to remind you that we have things --
10:21:26 you have an opportunity here to show a great deal of
10:21:28 leadership in a short amount of time.
10:21:31 And this is something that's going to be a concern to
10:21:33 the bicycle community.
10:21:35 And we do support your endeavors really would love to
10:21:39 see your leadership, and we welcome anything that you
10:21:42 can bring to the table.
10:21:45 I particularly liked member Capin's discussion, because
10:21:54 not only educate the driver but educate the bicyclist,
10:21:57 and part of the problem is with the bicyclist.
10:22:00 If we can get the bicyclists riding with traffic,
10:22:03 riding with lights, riding properly and acting like
10:22:07 they are a responsible member of the community, then
10:22:09 the fatalities will go down.
10:22:11 Whether or not we affect the motorist, can affect the
10:22:14 motorist in a real way.
10:22:16 Thank you for your consideration of this serious
10:22:18 Thank you very much.
10:22:19 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you, sir, very much.
10:22:21 And I think that this council has been very proactive,
10:22:25 I believe, on this particular issue, very involved, and
10:22:28 three of us on the MPO have been very supportive.
10:22:31 So, yes, thank you very much.
10:22:33 Next speaker.
10:22:33 >> Good morning.
10:22:37 My name is Myron Griffin.
10:22:39 And I have co-chaired with Lena Green to form a
10:22:43 committee, a group that you may have heard of, the
10:22:45 green artery.
10:22:46 We are a consolidation of approximately 14
10:22:49 neighborhoods throughout the central Tampa region.
10:22:52 It's a relatively huge chunk of central Tampa.
10:22:56 It follows the Hillsborough River on the east side,
10:22:59 starting at downtown, wraps all the way around to 40th
10:23:02 Street, comes down 40th Street to MacKay Bay, then
10:23:05 along Adamo and back to Channelside.
10:23:08 It's a huge chunk of central Tampa.
10:23:10 We have gotten great participation from neighborhood
10:23:13 liaisons and our mission is to connect all of the green
10:23:16 spaces that exist within central Tampa.
10:23:20 I am looking at approximately eleven pocket parks just
10:23:24 on the Hillsborough River alone.
10:23:25 They are dotted along our beautiful river, and we are
10:23:28 trying to connect these pocket parks, all of our green
10:23:31 space was safe sidewalks, trails, and bicycle paths.
10:23:35 We have the support of Linda Saul-Sena and Ed
10:23:40 We have had huge turnouts at our first four meetings.
10:23:43 We are planning our fifth.
10:23:44 That will be at East Tampa Reagan center February
10:23:47 We have got great support.
10:23:48 So what we hope to hand you is a consensus of what the
10:23:52 neighborhoods would like to see happening within their
10:23:54 own areas, and we would like to green up central Tampa
10:23:58 and create an image of a very livable city.
10:24:01 We are also very active with Linda Saul-Sena Tampa
10:24:07 I have a couple of recommendations.
10:24:09 I am bringing it from the group.
10:24:10 We are meeting regularly.
10:24:12 But I would like to establish some suggestions for a
10:24:15 USF connection between downtown and USF.
10:24:18 If you looked at the areas that they are primarily
10:24:21 studying, Westshore, Tampa, USF, there's a big break
10:24:24 between USF and downtown Tampa, not considering it at
10:24:28 this point.
10:24:29 I understand he has his agenda.
10:24:30 We would like to shock how that path could go from
10:24:32 downtown through Seminole Heights, just primarily one
10:24:36 of the founding neighborhoods of this group, as they
10:24:40 would proceed from downtown northward and connecting us
10:24:44 with USF because we understand the value of this trail.
10:24:46 We would like to see all of these little pocket parks
10:24:48 along the Hillsborough River either connected with
10:24:51 sidewalks, bicycle lanes, or at the very least
10:24:55 sharrows, sharrows, sharrows.
10:24:58 We have many people who could enjoy these little pocket
10:25:01 parks but they feel like they are a world away whenever
10:25:03 they are divided by large highways.
10:25:05 We would like the streets that run along the river,
10:25:08 that don't necessarily have sidewalks or bike paths, to
10:25:12 be designated with sharrows, making it feel as though
10:25:15 we have been connected.
10:25:16 We want interaction between our central Tampa
10:25:19 We want to feel as though we can travel from, say,
10:25:23 Seminole Heights to downtown and take advantage of all
10:25:25 the cultural amenities of that area.
10:25:29 Connect, connect.
10:25:30 And we would like to acquire as much space and enhance
10:25:36 the existing space we have all over.
10:25:38 Recently, we were granted a sidewalk project that went
10:25:41 from Sligh to Hanna.
10:25:43 This is a very heavily used corridor through central
10:25:46 Old Seminole Heights,.
10:25:49 Allen takes his bicycle clubs there all the tame.
10:25:51 We have an $82,000 project.
10:25:53 But we do have sidewalks now.
10:25:54 Pedestrians no long very to battle these speeding cars.
10:25:57 But bicyclists are still on their own there.
10:26:00 I would like to recommend that 12th street from
10:26:02 Henry all the way up to the Hillsborough River be
10:26:05 considered for sharrows immediately.
10:26:07 (Bell sounds)
10:26:08 I would also like to recommend that Hanna be considered
10:26:11 for sharrows all the way across because it is a very
10:26:13 heavily used corridor.
10:26:16 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you.
10:26:16 >>MARY MULHERN: I want to say this all sound fantastic
10:26:20 but it is the first time that I think any of us heard
10:26:22 about it so you might want to invite council -- and I
10:26:25 don't know if you are working with Parks Department or
10:26:27 >>> Yes, parks has been working with us, we have a
10:26:30 master plan and we are ready to talk.
10:26:33 >>MARY MULHERN: So invite us to your meetings.
10:26:35 >> Yes.
10:26:35 Next one is February 8th, Reagan center, 6:00.
10:26:39 As I said you will be on our e-mail master list.
10:26:45 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Next speaker.
10:26:45 Next speaker.
10:26:46 >> Kelly Benjamin, a life-long resident of Tampa.
10:26:58 I have been biking round Tampa's streets since I was
10:27:00 about five years old.
10:27:02 And I'm very happy to hear this dialogue being brought
10:27:05 up with the council.
10:27:07 It's very exciting.
10:27:08 I'm particularly happy to hear the comments from the
10:27:09 police depth captain that we are going to focus on more
10:27:12 visibility and more emphasis on education, because I
10:27:16 think in a city like Tampa that has this reputation as
10:27:23 the worst place in the nation to ride a bicycle, I
10:27:26 think this should continue no matter who wins the
10:27:30 election, to continue to be a priority.
10:27:32 One thing that I have noticed when I have traveled
10:27:34 around to other cities is that this really is a quality
10:27:39 of life issue.
10:27:40 When I go to a place like Austin, Texas or even larger
10:27:43 cities like New York and San Francisco, which despite
10:27:48 their being big cities with lots of automobiles, they
10:27:50 are actually much safer to bike in those cities,
10:27:54 because there's an emphasis on that.
10:27:55 You see, a greater emphasis on quality of life and see
10:28:01 more vibrant and thriving communities when you have
10:28:03 options for transportation for people.
10:28:06 And it creates a community, and it's a really good
10:28:10 And so I'm happy that the council is doing this.
10:28:12 I will personally take it upon myself to invite you to
10:28:16 some of the things that we are talking about with
10:28:17 livability and greenways project, and I encourage this
10:28:21 dialogue to continue.
10:28:21 Thank you very much.
10:28:22 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you very much.
10:28:24 The clerk has asked those who have spoken already and
10:28:28 are going to be speaking if you will sign the sign-in
10:28:30 sheet, please, on your way out the door.
10:28:33 Thank you very much.
10:28:34 Next speaker.
10:28:34 >> My name is Daniel Gamenaur.
10:28:37 I live in Seminole Heights.
10:28:38 I'm a cyclist.
10:28:40 I cycle all around town for fun, go to events, even
10:28:44 ride a BMX bike.
10:28:48 Every time I see a bicycle I am no longer despair for
10:28:51 the future of the human race.
10:28:53 H.G. Wells.
10:28:55 You don't understand the benefits of making a bicycle
10:28:59 Curtis Hixon park, for example.
10:29:01 You can get down but can't find a place to park to
10:29:03 enjoy the park.
10:29:04 There's a lot of destinations in this town that you can
10:29:07 take a bike to and enjoy it.
10:29:09 I really appreciate what the officer said.
10:29:11 I think that's a great idea putting stickers on the
10:29:14 Education is the key.
10:29:16 You have to educate everybody.
10:29:18 I don't know, I think the Florida statute, in a one
10:29:25 knows what that is.
10:29:26 No one understands a bicycle, how much room we are
10:29:28 allowed to have on the sideline.
10:29:31 The right turn lane is another great idea.
10:29:35 I can't tell you how many times a car has sideswiped me
10:29:40 I'm a pretty good cyclist so I know how to brace for it
10:29:43 and take the impact.
10:29:44 But it happens all the time.
10:29:46 People are ignorant.
10:29:47 They don't know.
10:29:48 They think they own the road.
10:29:49 They don't understand the bicycle is a vehicle.
10:29:51 And it's simply education.
10:29:54 Simply education.
10:29:54 It's all it is.
10:29:57 And learning to share the road.
10:29:59 Thank you for your time.
10:30:00 And I look forward to seeing Tampa become a bicycle
10:30:04 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you.
10:30:04 Next speaker.
10:30:09 >> Chip Commis.
10:30:12 I think there's a reason to pursue the ideas that have
10:30:15 been discussed today beyond safety.
10:30:18 And I think we are going to see a developing trend
10:30:21 within the next ten years, that cities and communities,
10:30:26 that hits possible to live without a car, are going to
10:30:29 be the most thriving and desirable places to live.
10:30:32 Bicyclling, whether it's a means of getting to your
10:30:37 destination or just getting to the nearest transit
10:30:39 stop, is going to be a key component of living
10:30:44 Next to walking, biking is the most sustainable, maybe
10:30:48 the only other sustainable form of transportation that
10:30:51 we have.
10:30:52 And at some point we are going to need to do things in
10:30:56 a lot more sustainable manner.
10:30:58 You think we have reached that point.
10:30:59 A lot of people that have been riding for the last 5,
10:31:02 10, 15 years on Tampa streets see this workshop as a
10:31:05 sign of progress, even though it probably should have
10:31:08 been happening five or ten or 15 years ago.
10:31:11 But if we put enough priority, if you put enough
10:31:14 priority on bicycle facilities, we can make up for lost
10:31:18 time, and maybe we can be one of those communities in
10:31:22 ten years that is thriving and desirable because you
10:31:24 can live there car-free.
10:31:26 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you very much.
10:31:30 Then that will conclude the workshop then on the
10:31:35 bicycle safety action plan.
10:31:36 We will move to our next workshop which is the women an
10:31:40 minority business enterprise report.
10:31:51 Greg Hart is here for that.
10:31:53 >> Good morning, Chairman Scott, members of City
10:31:58 Gregory Hart, manager, minority business and small
10:32:02 business development office.
10:32:04 This morning I have a PowerPoint report on the city's
10:32:08 equal business opportunity program.
10:32:13 Before I get into the text of the PowerPoint, I would
10:32:19 like to acknowledge your equal business opportunity
10:32:22 advisory committee.
10:32:26 A couple of the members were here earlier.
10:32:28 I think they had to leave.
10:32:30 The vice chairman Cathy Byrd was going to bring some
10:32:36 conclusions at the conclusion of my report.
10:32:39 No, she's still here.
10:32:40 Maybe she can remain here.
10:32:41 So at the end of my report, if you would allow some
10:32:44 time for them to have comment.
10:32:45 By the way, the committee, as you know, is a 16-member
10:32:49 committee, well representative of the community, very
10:32:51 diverse, and we have met with them throughout the
10:32:54 course of the year, and they provided some valuable
10:32:57 input and opinions and information about the city's
10:33:04 For introductory purposes, the city policy requires
10:33:09 developing reports that measure availability and
10:33:11 utilization of certified small local businesses and
10:33:15 women and minority business vendors on the basis of all
10:33:19 the categories, all contract awards and actual dollars
10:33:23 In the context of my presentation, when I refer to
10:33:26 utilization, I'm referring to actual payments being
10:33:27 made -- and when I refer to availability I am referring
10:33:33 to all companies in the marketplace that have an
10:33:37 interest in bidding on city contracts, that are rid,
10:33:42 willing and able to do so.
10:33:44 This is our third report under the new guidelines and
10:33:46 methodology established by city ordinance.
10:33:49 Eights very important milestone.
10:33:51 Next year we'll have four years, and we'll have some
10:33:54 new data to apply to this analysis.
10:33:57 I am going to provide you with a fiscal year 2010
10:34:02 snapshot of utilization paintings but more importantly
10:34:05 I am going to spend more time on the main focus which
10:34:07 is the three-year cumulative analysis.
10:34:13 This slide illustrates our data collection process
10:34:17 which we term diversity management information system,
10:34:24 Our office collects, compiles all activity that occurs
10:34:28 throughout the city.
10:34:28 That includes drawing information from our financial
10:34:31 system, our purchasing system, people soft, you name
10:34:37 it, we are collecting and drawing data from all sources
10:34:40 of information within city government.
10:34:43 That information is filtered into the five industry
10:34:48 categories of work.
10:34:49 And from there, we evaluate availability and
10:34:52 utilization outcomes.
10:34:54 We do that looking at well over 180 reports that we
10:35:01 The report data elements include all competitively bid
10:35:06 procurement separated into four utilization areas.
10:35:09 We look at prime and subcontracting that occurs for
10:35:12 small local businesses and women-minority businesses.
10:35:16 Subcontracts and prime contracts.
10:35:20 Each utilization area is x-rayed of the five industry
10:35:23 categories, as was illustrated in those four barrels on
10:35:28 the previous page.
10:35:28 That's construction, construction-related, professional
10:35:31 services, non-professional services, and goods.
10:35:35 Prime contract data is separated by two threshold.
10:35:41 We evaluate all prime contracts.
10:35:43 In addition we evaluate all prime contracts at $500,000
10:35:47 and below.
10:35:49 We also look at all prime contracts at $25,000 and
10:35:54 And we look at all SB contract dollars.
10:35:58 Now the significance of these threshold is that 96% of
10:36:02 all city contracts awarded have a value at $500,000 and
10:36:11 And of the $500,000 contract activity, 85% of those
10:36:19 contracts actually have a value of $25,000 and below.
10:36:23 So the majority of city contracts are small.
10:36:27 And then of course low at all subcontract dollars.
10:36:35 I am going to get into the key summaries, a snapshot of
10:36:41 2010 and the three-year cumulative.
10:36:44 But let me give you some highlights.
10:36:46 There are some stark economic factors regarding city
10:36:50 For example, in fiscal year 2010, the city awarded 31%
10:36:56 fewer contracts than the previous year.
10:37:01 In 2009 the city awarded approximately 2200 contracts.
10:37:08 During fiscal 2010 that number was 1600.
10:37:11 31% reduction.
10:37:12 And the number of contracts awarded.
10:37:15 Stated in terms of the dollar value of contracts, in
10:37:19 2010, the value of contracts went down 192% over the
10:37:25 previous year.
10:37:27 In 2009 the value of contracts awarded by the city was
10:37:31 approximately $142 million.
10:37:35 In 2010, the value of contracts that we awarded was 40
10:37:42 And lastly in terms of payment -- I just spoke about
10:37:45 Let's talk briefly about payments that were made.
10:37:48 Payments to primes was down 287%.
10:37:56 In 2009, actual payments that went into the pockets of
10:38:00 our contractors amounted to 67 million.
10:38:04 In 2010, that was 17 million.
10:38:08 In terms of payments that went to subs, it's down 100
10:38:11 percent over the previous year.
10:38:14 In 2009, payments that actually fell into the pockets
10:38:19 of our subcontractors amounted to 57 million.
10:38:22 In 2010, it's 28 million.
10:38:25 So I just want just wanted to kind of paint a little
10:38:27 picture of what's been going on.
10:38:29 And also the importance of not getting too, I guess,
10:38:35 overly focused on year to year data, because things
10:38:39 changed very drastically and dramatically from year to
10:38:42 year, based on the number of contracts and the value of
10:38:44 contracts and other factors.
10:38:46 So the important thing is we want to look at the
10:38:49 cumulative years when we look at utilization.
10:38:55 Having said that, the small local business prime
10:38:59 contract activity in 2010, women and minority firms who
10:39:03 were SLBE certified received 31% of all payments to
10:39:11 This indicates that our women-minority business
10:39:14 inclusion has been successful under the SLBE program.
10:39:18 Looking at the three-year cumulative results, WMBEs
10:39:26 received 60% of all payments that were made to SLBE
10:39:32 Cumulative years indicate that the SLBE program
10:39:36 effectively reflects activities for dual certified
10:39:42 MBEs, so we were very getting firms that are eligible
10:39:49 Women and minority businesses are small.
10:39:55 In the subcontract arena, just a snapshot of 2010.
10:40:00 WMBEs represented 70% of all payments made to SLBE
10:40:06 Utilization remained fairly constant during 2010.
10:40:10 The three-year cumulative of WMBE firms received 81% of
10:40:17 all payments made to SLBE subcontractors.
10:40:23 Here again, the WMBEs are well represented in the
10:40:27 SLBE program.
10:40:32 I am going to speak now about prime contracting.
10:40:35 Looking at 2010, our WMBEs received 14% of all
10:40:42 payments across all five industry categories, all
10:40:49 The tree-year cumulative, WMBE firms represented 5% of
10:40:56 all payments made understood the prime award.
10:41:03 That's across all five industry categories, all
10:41:09 More importantly, looking at the single year for WMBE
10:41:15 prime participation at the 500,000 and below threshold
10:41:20 are women and minority firms received 13% of all
10:41:23 payments made in that year.
10:41:26 The three-year result, that's WMBE prime participation
10:41:33 at the 500,000 and below threshold, keeping in mind 97%
10:41:38 of our contracts fall within this threshold, women and
10:41:41 minority firms received 12% of all payments made.
10:41:44 Utilization has been fairly constant.
10:41:47 Even in this volatile marketplace and economy.
10:41:54 Looking at the $25,000 and below category, in 2010, our
10:41:59 WMBEs received 7% of all payments.
10:42:04 Of course, there were fewer contracts awarded in 2010.
10:42:07 Nonetheless, utilization is fairly consistent among our
10:42:11 ethnic and small minority businesses.
10:42:15 The three-year cumulative results, very little has
10:42:21 WMBEs received 10% of all payments at the $25,000 or
10:42:26 less threshold.
10:42:33 Focusing on subcontract activity for the one-year,
10:42:36 2010, women minority firms received 18% of all
10:42:42 subcontract payments across all five industry
10:42:48 Overall, our WMBE subcontract utilization is slightly
10:42:55 But let's look at the three-year cumulative.
10:43:00 Women and minority firms received 18% of all payments
10:43:03 made for subcontract participation.
10:43:07 So WMBE participation is fairly consistent.
10:43:18 We are now going to talk about our overall utilization
10:43:21 results and give you some indication of where apparent
10:43:29 disparity may be occurring.
10:43:31 And I might note that you will recall that the
10:43:35 disparity analysis is applying our 2006 study available
10:43:43 Now, WMBE utilization, whenever it's below the standard
10:43:49 target threshold, that's when we assume that there
10:43:53 might be some disparity.
10:43:54 So in following charts we are going to look at the
10:43:58 statistics and where we have utilization that falls
10:44:01 below the availability percentage target or standard,
10:44:07 that's where we have apparent disparity based on the
10:44:11 2006 availability data.
10:44:13 In this particular chart for contracts, $500,000 or
10:44:17 less, the yellow highlighted boxes indicate where we
10:44:24 have parity or overutilization.
10:44:27 So we can see here that in construction we have one of
10:44:31 our ethnic minority groups, meeting the threshold, and
10:44:37 also non-professional services.
10:44:40 For contracts, $25,000 or less, here again, the yellow
10:44:45 shaded boxes indicate where there is utilization that
10:44:53 is meeting the target.
10:44:56 By the way, very little has changed from our two-year
10:45:01 cumulative report, last year and this three-year.
10:45:05 You take cumulative years.
10:45:07 You now analyze that.
10:45:09 It's a better indication of trend as opposed to just
10:45:12 looking one year to the next.
10:45:16 In the subcontract category, where I had mentioned
10:45:20 there was a slight bump and we have been consistently
10:45:23 strong here, again, the yellow shaded boxes indicate
10:45:29 where utilization has met the percentage target or
10:45:34 In the following two or three slides, I'm summarizing
10:45:39 for you what those previous charts and statistics
10:45:43 actually conclude.
10:45:46 In here at the prime contract spot, 500 that you or
10:45:49 less, Hispanic businesses met the target in
10:45:54 nonprofessional services, and our Asian businesses met
10:45:57 the target in construction.
10:45:58 At that category of $25,000 or less, we can see that
10:46:04 our Hispanic businesses, Caucasian female businesses
10:46:09 are meeting that in construction related and in goods,
10:46:13 our Hispanic businesses are meeting that target.
10:46:17 Looking at the subcontract utilization, across the
10:46:23 board, targets are being met by all of our ethnic
10:46:28 minority and women-owned businesses in the respective
10:46:32 categories as depicted here in the summary.
10:46:39 Transit utilization in one of our delivery systems, the
10:46:46 WMBE utilization brought forth 30% participation
10:46:51 throughout our program.
10:47:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: When you put the JOCS at 30%
10:47:09 utilization, while true it's misleading because if you
10:47:11 didn't have JOCS you would still have the subcontract
10:47:16 which would be the same result.
10:47:17 >> Without JOCS we would have subcontract participation
10:47:24 but perhaps not at the same degree.
10:47:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Well, that's an unknown factor,
10:47:32 Am I correct or incorrect?
10:47:34 >> Well, if we didn't, in the JOC program, one of the
10:47:40 performance conditions is that they include WMBE
10:47:46 If we didn't have JOC, and those contracts were let,
10:47:51 use some of the other delivery systems, if those
10:47:54 contracts had significant subcontract elements, we
10:47:58 would apply those.
10:48:02 The extent to which they would be successful, we would
10:48:04 get some.
10:48:04 I don't know if it would be to the same extent as we
10:48:07 have received under JOCS, because it's incorporated as
10:48:11 part of the contract.
10:48:12 >> But it is possible that since JOCS, the way it was
10:48:17 programmed, they got the list of contractors from the
10:48:20 city, I would assume, making an assumption on my part,
10:48:23 that the rules and regulations that apply to them would
10:48:26 certainly apply to the city.
10:48:28 Therefore, the equation and methodology of which those
10:48:31 contractors would be submitted and application to the
10:48:34 city for participation would be equal or less if not
10:48:39 greater than.
10:48:39 >> All contracts would have access to the same
10:48:42 information that is available.
10:48:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
10:48:46 >>> In this slide, I'm making some recommendations that
10:48:50 perhaps would assist us in providing additional
10:48:56 opportunities at the prime level for our SLBEs who
10:49:02 again are WMBEs.
10:49:04 In our sheltered market program we are able to allow,
10:49:07 depending upon the value of the contract, to have those
10:49:11 SLBE primes compete within their peer group.
10:49:15 Currently that threshold is 200,000.
10:49:17 And I'm recommending that we consider raising that
10:49:21 threshold for sheltered market from 200,000 to 300,000.
10:49:26 That may in fact increase the number of prime contracts
10:49:29 for SLBEs including dual certified WMBEs.
10:49:35 Prime participation is stagnant.
10:49:37 And the disparity study indicated that was a challenge,
10:49:41 and this is one way that we might be able to address
10:49:45 even further.
10:49:47 In addition, I'm looking at considering and
10:49:50 recommending that we apply subcontract goal setting to
10:49:54 sheltered market projects that lend themselves to
10:49:59 subcontract goals.
10:50:01 If we in fact do raise the threshold to 300,000, this
10:50:04 may be in fact one or two projects that fall understood
10:50:08 that threshold that require subcontract elements, and
10:50:13 if our SLBEs or WMBEs are going to be prime
10:50:19 contractors we need to encourage them if they need subs
10:50:22 to look at getting quotes from our SLBE and WMBE sites?
10:50:27 So that's been our intent there.
10:50:28 >>MARY MULHERN: I'm wondering why don't you raise that
10:50:31 to 500,000, since it's 500,000 was the level at which
10:50:35 you said most contracts fall under?
10:50:38 >> Well, again, there aren't as many contracts that
10:50:44 WMBEs or SLBes are going to bid.
10:50:49 We know factually that the 200,000 has worked well.
10:50:53 So incrementally we want to look at 300,000.
10:50:57 If in fact we think we can do a little more, we can
10:51:00 consider that.
10:51:01 >> You can start by raising it to 300, if that makes a
10:51:09 I want to ask you this because this is based on what
10:51:11 you told us at the beginning about the total dollar
10:51:14 amount of contracts for 2010 you said was 48 million.
10:51:19 Is that right?
10:51:21 >> That's correct.
10:51:22 >> When you talk about percentages of contracts, you
10:51:28 are talking about the number of contracts?
10:51:30 Or are you talking about the dollar?
10:51:34 When you are doing that average, are you using the
10:51:37 dollar amount?
10:51:37 >> I'm doing both.
10:51:39 In the 48 million that was awarded in 2010, I stated
10:51:44 that over 2009 there was a 31% reduction in the number
10:51:50 of contracts awarded.
10:51:51 >> Right.
10:51:52 So what was the reduction in dollar amount?
10:51:56 >> The dollar value in those contracts has declined
10:52:03 So in 2010, the value of contracts that were awarded
10:52:09 was approximately $48 million.
10:52:13 In 2009 the value of the contracts that we awarded
10:52:17 amounted to approximately $142 million.
10:52:22 >> I understand what you are saying.
10:52:24 That's the total dollar amount of contracts awarded.
10:52:28 In the city.
10:52:29 What I am trying to understand is when you talk about
10:52:34 the percentage that are covered in the SLBE and the
10:52:44 WMBE -- and we can talk about the fact that most
10:52:48 contracts are under that 500,000, and then under
10:52:57 25,000, that's the number of contracts.
10:53:00 That's not in the dollar amounts, right?
10:53:05 >> That is the dollar amount.
10:53:07 The dollar value.
10:53:09 I stated that 96% of all city contracts have a value at
10:53:17 or below 500,000, I am referring to the dollar value.
10:53:22 >> So 96% for 2010 of that 48 million, $48 million,
10:53:36 >> Let me see if I can't restate it.
10:53:39 >> No, let me finish asking the question.
10:53:42 48 million spent on contracts.
10:53:44 What was the dollar amount of those contracts that were
10:53:51 The 96%, does that mean 96% of 48 million?
10:53:56 Or 96% of the number of contracts?
10:53:58 >> Okay.
10:54:01 I have that information.
10:54:02 And I can get back to you and provide --
10:54:05 >> No, you should know that information.
10:54:07 That's not a tough question.
10:54:08 It's either yes or no.
10:54:09 It's the dollar amount or it's the number of contracts.
10:54:12 The 96%.
10:54:13 >> The 96% is a general statement about the type of
10:54:19 contracts which the city let's.
10:54:22 >> You are not answering my question.
10:54:24 >> Okay.
10:54:24 >> This is a simple math --
10:54:27 >> Do you have something?
10:54:29 >> You need to come to the mike.
10:54:30 >> Joe Canarre, City of Tampa minority business
10:54:34 Yes, it is.
10:54:35 When we talk about the total dollars, that percentage
10:54:37 relates back to the contract, number of contracts under
10:54:41 that threshold.
10:54:43 So we are talking about direct relationship of the
10:54:46 total dollars and the total contracts that were awarded
10:54:50 for that value.
10:54:50 >> So here is what you can tell me then.
10:54:54 If I did the math, 96% of 48 million, which would be
10:54:58 about, what, 46%, 46 million, is that how much -- is
10:55:07 that the dollar amount, approximately?
10:55:09 >> It's approximately that.
10:55:11 The vast majority -- what we are saying here is this.
10:55:14 The city's general procurement is very low in contract
10:55:17 values overall.
10:55:18 So when we look at capacity of our women and minority
10:55:22 companies, it's a non-issue.
10:55:25 Companies should be able to do contracts within those
10:55:28 That's what we are trying to illustrate with that
10:55:30 >> Okay.
10:55:32 That's what I wanted to know.
10:55:34 It helps.
10:55:36 You know, it's even math that I can do.
10:55:40 >> It's even more significant than that.
10:55:42 The one year is just a very small snapshot, looking at
10:55:44 the cumulative that knock it is peaks and evaluation of
10:55:51 >> I am just using that as an example.
10:55:53 We can look at the three-year totals, too.
10:55:55 >> The analysis is looking at your percentages.
10:55:58 It's going to relate to the dollar value that we are
10:56:00 associating with.
10:56:01 But there's two percentages which can get confusing.
10:56:04 Percent of contracts and percent of dollars related
10:56:07 to --
10:56:07 >> Right, and I would like to see that because that
10:56:10 doesn't sound like a --
10:56:13 >> We can give that you information anyway you wanted
10:56:18 as long as we get the request.
10:56:18 >> This is the request.
10:56:19 You understand the request?
10:56:20 >> No, let's make it clear so he can write it down.
10:56:23 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.
10:56:28 For these total amounts, the 48 million in contracts
10:56:34 awarded in 2010, and then the one 42 million that Mr.
10:56:41 Hart mentioned for 2009 or 2008, whichever.
10:56:45 >> 2009.
10:56:45 >>MARY MULHERN: Why don't do you the three years that
10:56:50 this report applies to.
10:56:52 I would like to see the dollar amount of contracts
10:56:54 awarded by the city, the dollar amount of contracts
10:57:01 that were under $500,000, the dollar amount of
10:57:07 contracts that were under $25,000 for each of those
10:57:11 >> Okay.
10:57:12 Now the supplemental report has some of that data.
10:57:14 You realize that the supplemental has the values of
10:57:17 contracts that were greater than 500.
10:57:20 So when we report our value here, the supplemental
10:57:23 report also gives that information.
10:57:27 So in the supplemental package, we have that there.
10:57:30 >> Right.
10:57:31 But this is the big picture and this is the first thing
10:57:33 that Mr. Hart told us.
10:57:35 So I would like to see that on one sheet.
10:57:37 >> Okay.
10:57:38 >> Let me extract that information, compiled to one
10:57:43 I think you make a very good point, and that is we have
10:57:46 to take each year and see what contracts fell within
10:57:50 those thresholds.
10:57:51 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Well, that was the question I raised
10:57:55 yesterday in my office.
10:57:56 You remember I asked for.
10:57:57 That you told me it would just be basically the
10:58:00 Could you have the information.
10:58:02 >> That's correct.
10:58:03 >> But when I raised that same question.
10:58:05 >>MARY MULHERN: And I just think when you talk about
10:58:11 percentages of contracts, that's pretty important
10:58:12 whether you are talking about the number of contracts
10:58:13 or the dollar amounts of the total contracts.
10:58:19 That's way need to see.
10:58:20 >> We can compile it.
10:58:22 We have that information.
10:58:23 Again we look over 180 reports.
10:58:26 And then we compile that information in accumulative
10:58:30 But we have all the details that goes deep, and as far
10:58:33 as you like.
10:58:34 We can get that for you.
10:58:35 >> I am looking at totals, not the details.
10:58:37 >>JOSEPH P. CAETANO: Mr. Hart, your program deals
10:58:41 specifically with minorities, correct?
10:58:47 With women?
10:58:48 >> We address ethnic minorities, women, and the ethnic
10:58:53 minority groups, as well as small local businesses who
10:58:57 meet the criteria.
10:58:58 Just race and gender neutral.
10:59:00 We look at all small businesses and identify those
10:59:02 which are women owned and ethnic minority.
10:59:05 We look at all small businesses.
10:59:06 >> So if they are not a minority, you still cater to
10:59:10 >> Yes.
10:59:11 If they meet the small local business enterprise
10:59:14 criteria to be designated as such.
10:59:16 >> Okay, thank you.
10:59:17 >>THOMAS SCOTT: You have to understand, you actually
10:59:22 have a small business ordinance really.
10:59:25 I understand -- when does the trigger kick in?
10:59:31 That's from legal.
10:59:32 Because when you look at this, you have a three-year
10:59:34 period, according to the Supreme Court, you have got to
10:59:38 have a window of three to five, is that right?
10:59:41 >> Yes, sir.
10:59:42 >>THOMAS SCOTT: We have three years of data.
10:59:43 Based on that, on page 21, I think you may have covered
10:59:49 this with council.
10:59:49 If you look at each of those categories, first off you
10:59:53 look at the WMBE prime utilization category, 500,000 or
10:59:59 less, you have your targets that are set there, right?
11:00:03 >> Correct.
11:00:08 >> If you look at page 21 and construction, only one
11:00:12 group category, you are able to reach or excel.
11:00:18 The Asian-American.
11:00:19 And then you go down, drop down to Hispanic, and
11:00:23 non-professional services.
11:00:24 You exceeded that in utilization of those contracts.
11:00:28 Is that right?
11:00:29 >> Yes.
11:00:29 >> So everything we have done on that category, you
11:00:32 only have two categories, that met the requirements.
11:00:37 Is that right?
11:00:39 The target, right?
11:00:40 They exceeded the target.
11:00:43 Go to the next page.
11:00:44 Page 22.
11:00:45 Same thing, contracts of 25,000 or less.
11:00:50 You see African-American did not reach any goal or any
11:00:57 Page 22.
11:00:57 Page 22.
11:00:59 Are you all following me, council?
11:01:01 Page 22.
11:01:01 >> We are.
11:01:05 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Look across.
11:01:05 25,000 or less contract.
11:01:07 African-American did not meet the target
11:01:10 Asian-American did not meet the target.
11:01:12 Hispanic American met the category in
11:01:15 construction-related services, they exceeded, as well
11:01:18 as in goods.
11:01:19 And then Caucasian females in construction related.
11:01:23 >> My people are doing that.
11:01:27 >>THOMAS SCOTT: So you look at the categories.
11:01:31 And I understand what Mr. Harvey said that the city
11:01:35 didn't give out a lot of contracts over the last couple
11:01:37 of years, right?
11:01:39 Whatever contract went out we have not met the target,
11:01:41 only in those categories where are we exceeded.
11:01:44 Go over now to the WMBE subcontract utilization you
11:01:49 find African-American in the non-professional services.
11:01:53 Asian Americans met it in the construction service
11:01:57 Hispanics did extremely well on this sheet here.
11:02:03 They exceeded.
11:02:04 And looked like about three categories there.
11:02:09 Caucasian female did it well in one category, okay?
11:02:12 So if you look at that, you will see that we are still
11:02:17 not meeting the target in some of these categories, and
11:02:20 African-American only met in the one category, I
11:02:22 So my question is, according to the ordinance, this is
11:02:26 a legal question, when does it trigger -- when do the
11:02:30 triggers kick in?
11:02:31 >> And before legal comments, let me just say that the
11:02:37 underutilization in the category, we acknowledge that.
11:02:40 It's been stagnant.
11:02:41 That has been identified in the study in 2006.
11:02:44 We know that.
11:02:44 And that's for that reason the recommendations I spoke
11:02:48 to is to try to stem some of that.
11:02:50 However, and legal will speak to this, be mindful that
11:02:53 you are looking at analysis of utilization based on
11:02:58 availability that is using the 2006 study data on
11:03:07 We are required to collect a unit of three to five
11:03:13 years of availability data to apply to the calculation.
11:03:17 It's almost like taking -- this might be a bad analogy,
11:03:21 but taking year 2000 census data, and an urban planner
11:03:27 or transportation planner using that data to make
11:03:30 policy decisions in 2010.
11:03:32 >>THOMAS SCOTT: I understand that.
11:03:37 But you the report was done in 2006.
11:03:43 We have no control of that.
11:03:45 And I recognize what you are saying.
11:03:47 But we have to use what's been outlined by law --
11:03:50 >> That's what we are doing.
11:03:52 >>THOMAS SCOTT: -- by law, and what we have.
11:03:54 That's the issue.
11:03:55 When this program was initially set up we were
11:03:57 following the recommendations pretty much of legal,
11:04:00 Dallas Smith who -- Darrell Smith, who was city
11:04:05 attorney at that time, and I challenged a lot of the
11:04:06 things, and brought the lady in from Chicago, and said,
11:04:10 well, part of the problem is this.
11:04:14 Part of the problem was the static but nevertheless we
11:04:19 moved forward with that.
11:04:20 And we have a trigger.
11:04:22 So my question to legal is, at what point does this
11:04:25 trigger kick in?
11:04:28 >> Hargrett, legal.
11:04:31 The trigger you are speaking about is not necessarily
11:04:33 an objective one.
11:04:34 It is somewhat subjective.
11:04:35 And the requirement is for three to five years of
11:04:39 At this point we have three years.
11:04:41 But in looking at the report, wave to take into account
11:04:45 the fact that this past year is a bit of an anomaly
11:04:50 because of the economy.
11:04:51 So throws a lot more to assessing whether or not the
11:04:54 trigger should actually be made, and that's why you are
11:04:57 receiving the recommendation that you are receiving.
11:05:00 The law does indicate that we need to play all race
11:05:05 neutral measures that we can, to the extent that they
11:05:07 are successful.
11:05:08 We need to extract those types of programs before we
11:05:11 implement race conscious.
11:05:14 And this afternoon way a government that does that will
11:05:17 have a better opportunity to defend itself in case
11:05:19 actually is challenged.
11:05:21 Then you can say wave done this, we have done that.
11:05:24 And wave done everything that is within our ability.
11:05:28 >>THOMAS SCOTT: So then basically again you said this
11:05:30 past year was an anomaly.
11:05:32 What if the trend continues for next year?
11:05:36 >> That is the reason why Joe Cardillo mentioned, and
11:05:45 at this point the trend is that the SLBE program is
11:05:49 effective, and that's why the recommendation you see is
11:05:53 to increase the 200,000 cap for sheltered market
11:05:57 contracts, to the 300,000 level.
11:06:01 So we are still in the process of trying to extract as
11:06:04 much success as we can from race-neutral measures.
11:06:10 >>MARY MULHERN: I had another request from you, and I
11:06:17 know you mentioned this before, but I don't know if it
11:06:19 was followed up on.
11:06:22 What is the definition of SLBE that you are using?
11:06:28 What is the definition of that?
11:06:31 I know it's small local business enter praise means.
11:06:34 I want to know the criteria are for fitting into that
11:06:39 >> To be eligible and recognized as an SLBE the owner
11:06:47 of that company must be a resident of the State of
11:06:49 Florida, the business that that individual owns and
11:06:56 operates must be domiciled in a five-county market
11:07:00 Hillsborough, Pinellas, Manatee, Pasco, and Polk.
11:07:05 >> Does that mean headquarters or just an office?
11:07:10 >> Yes.
11:07:11 Their main business.
11:07:12 >>> The headquarters.
11:07:14 Quay okay.
11:07:15 >> And they must have fewer than 25 full-time
11:07:21 employees, and their gross receipts or gross sales
11:07:25 cannot exceed $2 million averaged over a three-year
11:07:30 That is the criteria.
11:07:32 And that is race and gender neutral.
11:07:34 >> Cannot exceed --
11:07:36 >> 2 million in gross receipts, gross sales, averaged
11:07:39 over a three-year period.
11:07:41 >> So per-year averaged over three years?
11:07:44 >> Yes.
11:07:44 >> Thank you.
11:07:45 >> Any other questions?
11:07:48 Councilman Stokes.
11:07:51 >>CURTIS STOKES: Mr. Hart, on page 21 of the slide
11:07:54 presentation, WMBE prime utilization, looking at some
11:08:06 of the concerns that Chairman Scott mentioned, the
11:08:09 professional services, non-professional services, and
11:08:11 some of the categories that did not make the
11:08:14 availability percentage target, I point out the Asian
11:08:23 Americans 2.55, in the WMBE target.
11:08:28 In the database, the city's database, who and what
11:08:33 represents that population?
11:08:34 Or is there an opportunity to give contracts to the
11:08:42 population --
11:08:43 >> Can you restate that?
11:08:45 >> Utilization, capacity tissue issue, 4.8, and
11:08:52 professional services, attorneys, Asian Americans,
11:08:55 2.55, Hispanics 10.63 and professional services,
11:09:01 looking at the utilization percentage, .05, .76 and
11:09:08 Native Americans, the capacity issue, is there a
11:09:14 capacity issue among those categories that prohibit
11:09:16 them from getting those contracts, or is it not the
11:09:21 >> Our information indicates there's not a capacity
11:09:29 Not a capacity issue.
11:09:30 >> Oftentimes it's what type of contract is it that the
11:09:40 city is awarding.
11:09:46 If the vendor proposes on it, there are a number of
11:09:49 But to answer capacity --
11:09:51 >> So in areas of professional services, what makes
11:09:53 up -- I'm not sure what the dollar amount is that was
11:09:58 spent on professional services over the this time
11:10:03 What data, the bulk of that, where one category
11:10:05 received 97.4% and the others probably 1.5% of total
11:10:12 >> I could definitely go back and give you the
11:10:14 But what contracts are in there, and who received it,
11:10:18 the type of contract was awarded that fell within that
11:10:23 If that helps.
11:10:25 I also have some information on some of our businesses,
11:10:29 who represent these figures in here, by company name
11:10:32 and ethnicity, which I think is something that some of
11:10:35 you have expressed an interest in.
11:10:36 >> Because the numbers are trending the 500,000 or less
11:10:41 and the 25,000 or less, a lot of the underrepresented
11:10:45 groups are in professional services are not receiving a
11:10:53 tremendous amount of work compared to the other
11:11:04 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Does this not depend on if the small
11:11:06 business responded to the contract that was put out?
11:11:15 >> Yes.
11:11:16 Without a doubt that's one of the variables I'm
11:11:18 referring to.
11:11:23 Was the available firm free to propose a bid on it?
11:11:29 If they did, were they competitive?
11:11:30 There are a number of variables.
11:11:32 And that's one of them, certainly.
11:11:34 >> A member of the committee needs to leave.
11:11:44 >> Do we need to take any actions on the
11:11:47 recommendations you recommended to us?
11:11:48 >> No, sir.
11:11:49 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Don't need to take any action on
11:11:51 >> Not to my knowledge, no, sir.
11:11:57 >>CURTIS STOKES: The recommendations apply -- can you
11:12:04 expound on that, please.
11:12:05 >> Right now any contract that's proposed to be let,
11:12:08 our office looks at the subcontract elements and
11:12:11 establishes SLBE subcontract goal.
11:12:14 Under the shelter market program because the contracts
11:12:16 have been small, we don't typically administratively
11:12:20 look at them for setting subcontract goals on that
11:12:26 If in fact we raise the threshold, there may be on
11:12:29 occasion an opportunity to incorporate and SLBE
11:12:33 subcontract goal on that shelter market, so that SLBE
11:12:37 or WMBE who is performing, if they have a need for
11:12:41 subtrade, we are going to encourage em them look, at
11:12:44 your sister agencies and your brother agencies who are
11:12:47 SLBE to perform these subs.
11:12:50 That's what's indicated.
11:12:52 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay.
11:12:53 Questions by council?
11:12:57 We can hear now.
11:12:59 >> Kathryn Byrd with innovative construction, Inc., is
11:13:04 vice chair and she's needing to leave and ready to make
11:13:07 some comments.
11:13:08 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Welcome.
11:13:09 >> Thank you, council members.
11:13:10 It's a pleasure to see all of you again.
11:13:12 My name is Cathy Byrd with innovative restoration and I
11:13:15 am the vice chair of the equal business opportunity
11:13:18 advisory committee.
11:13:19 I have had the distinct pleasure of working with Mr.
11:13:21 Hart and his crew, staff, the last few months and
11:13:25 trying to review data that is available to us, and
11:13:29 determining what data is missing or what data appears
11:13:31 to be misleading.
11:13:34 I do sit on the private sector side of the equation.
11:13:38 I am a certified WMBE, a certified small local business
11:13:42 enterprise firm, and I have had the opportunity to be
11:13:47 on the potential receiving side of these contracts.
11:13:50 And based on that experience, I was delighted to have
11:13:53 the opportunity to sit on this committee because my
11:13:56 experiences are very, very different than what the data
11:13:59 that's reflecting.
11:14:01 And I would like to have the opportunity to evaluate
11:14:03 the data.
11:14:05 One of the challenges that we have had, and we are
11:14:07 overcoming those challenges, is do we have integrity in
11:14:11 the data that we do have?
11:14:14 Does it give us the whole picture?
11:14:16 Or is it such a skewed view that we could never come to
11:14:20 any actual conclusion that reflects the reality of the
11:14:22 situation be? Mr. Hart's group is now compiling data
11:14:27 that in my professional opinion has integrity to it.
11:14:31 We have not had the opportunity yet to seriously
11:14:34 evaluate that data, particularly against the community
11:14:38 demographics, because we don't have all of the data in
11:14:41 that we need.
11:14:42 So we are comparing currents data collection to
11:14:48 somewhat outdated evaluations.
11:14:51 And for that reason, I wanted to have the opportunity
11:14:55 to come and speak to you personally to let you know
11:14:58 that as committee members, we represent the community,
11:15:02 and we also represent certified businesses within that
11:15:06 community, so we had a chance to walk through the
11:15:11 I do believe that when we get to next year, and the
11:15:15 year after that, and you start seeing -- you are going
11:15:19 to see numbers that are going to be dramatically
11:15:21 different than what you are seeing today.
11:15:22 And is there an underutilization in certain demographic
11:15:28 Is there a better-than-average utilization in other
11:15:33 demographic groups?
11:15:34 I think we'll find absolutely.
11:15:36 I think we may very well actually see -- and this is
11:15:40 just my professional opinion from the private sector
11:15:42 looking in as opposed to looking out -- that we may
11:15:46 find that some of our minority groups, as we have
11:15:49 classified them, may no longer actually be minority in
11:15:53 certain categories.
11:15:54 So I'm personally very interested in seeing how the day
11:15:57 will come out.
11:15:58 And I think your conclusions by that time will probably
11:16:00 be more accurately based on the entire picture as
11:16:06 opposed to just a subset.
11:16:07 So thank you.
11:16:08 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you.
11:16:08 >> Any other questions?
11:16:12 Then we will take public comment at this time.
11:16:16 Anyone from the public wish to address council?
11:16:20 Do we need to -- do you have a request made by council?
11:16:30 Do we need to make a motion for that, legal?
11:16:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Well, I don't know whether you set
11:16:38 the August date for the semiannual report.
11:16:41 I don't see it at the next workshop.
11:16:44 >>THOMAS SCOTT: It would have to be the fourth
11:16:47 Thursday in August, I would assume, right?
11:16:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Except for the fact under your
11:16:51 present calendar you don't have a workshop date
11:16:54 scheduled in August.
11:16:55 It could be scheduled for a regular meeting under staff
11:16:57 reports, if you wish, or you would schedule it for
11:17:00 September's workshop day.
11:17:02 There is no workshop in July either.
11:17:05 So it's either a regular meeting in August or the
11:17:07 September workshop.
11:17:08 If you wish to schedule it now anyway --
11:17:14 >> Well, what we are essentially saying fall, we'll
11:17:17 hopefully have the compilations by August.
11:17:22 >>THOMAS SCOTT: September then.
11:17:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: September 15th workshop at
11:17:27 9 a.m.?
11:17:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I move to receive and file the
11:17:29 documents and schedule a work to shop for September
11:17:33 15th at 9 a.m.
11:17:34 >> Second.
11:17:35 >>THOMAS SCOTT: All in favor?
11:17:37 Opposes in
11:17:39 Anything else? Thank you very much.
11:17:40 Committee members as well.
11:17:42 And your office as well.
11:17:47 The next workshop, council time, is an issue factor.
11:17:55 We are going to lose our quorum here in just a second.
11:17:58 We'll take up the next one.
11:17:59 And we may not have time for the remaining two.
11:18:02 We may have to continue those to next month.
11:18:06 Yes, sir?
11:18:07 >> Randy Goers.
11:18:11 I do notice that you have a number of people out there
11:18:13 for a workshop.
11:18:14 If you want to switch times and move them in front of
11:18:17 me, that would be fine.
11:18:22 I don't know how long the truck route is going to be.
11:18:26 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Five-minute presentation?
11:18:28 What time do you have to leave?
11:18:31 We are not going to make it.
11:18:35 >>RANDY GOERS: Be if not I can move forward and get
11:18:41 mine done in about 15 minutes.
11:18:42 >> We have commitments all around the dais here.
11:18:45 He has to meet with the mayor.
11:18:46 She has an appointment in 15 minutes.
11:18:48 So my concern is -- and you have to leave.
11:18:53 We lose our quorum.
11:18:54 We can't -- I'm gad for 30 more minutes.
11:18:58 But we are going to lose our quorum so council can't
11:19:02 >>RANDY GOERS: He can move faster than the 15 if you
11:19:07 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay.
11:19:07 Truck route is how long?
11:19:13 Let's take five minutes, then try to squeeze it in.
11:19:16 Let's try to take the truck route.
11:19:18 >> Transportation planning.
11:19:26 I want top introduce our consultant on the truck route
11:19:29 study for us, Tyndall Oliver.
11:19:33 He's going to give a quick five-minute overview.
11:19:36 And Jean Dorzback previously gave you a briefing a few
11:19:39 weeks ago on the results of the study.
11:19:40 >>THOMAS SCOTT: You have three minutes.
11:19:45 >> Queue up the presentation.
11:19:50 The key thing here is that the truck route system was
11:19:52 adopted originally about 25 or 30 years ago.
11:19:55 It was time for a dust-off.
11:19:58 There's three major components.
11:19:59 There's an ordinance that needed to be updated.
11:20:01 There's a map that illustrates what the truck route
11:20:03 system is, which roads are on it and which are not.
11:20:06 And there's administrative aspects which deal with the
11:20:08 education, how you educate and communicate and how you
11:20:14 maintain and administrator that system.
11:20:21 Why do you have a truck route?
11:20:22 You want to minimize damage to your assets, your local
11:20:25 street system, you want the trucks on roads that can
11:20:28 handle the trucks.
11:20:29 You want to protect your neighborhoods.
11:20:31 The key thing about this ordinance is that it is not
11:20:33 intended to prohibit a truck from using any road in the
11:20:35 city to serve a site as long as that truck has a good
11:20:39 reason for being on that road.
11:20:41 You want to concentrate the truck traffic on the roads
11:20:43 that can accommodate it, so they have the best service,
11:20:48 but can deviate from it and that's okay.
11:20:52 Difficulty to enforce a truck route system simply
11:20:54 because the way it's set up now, law enforcement
11:20:58 officer has to physically be present, see the truck
11:21:01 violating a traffic control sign, and then follow him
11:21:07 through to see that he does not have a destination and
11:21:10 the primary change in the ordinance is probably two
11:21:15 One is changing the definition of the truck.
11:21:17 Right now, it's any vehicle which is rated at 110 or
11:21:20 over, kind of hard to enforce, hard to decide if the
11:21:23 vehicle is really in the category or not.
11:21:25 It's being revised to reflect any vehicle that has
11:21:29 three axles or six tires or more.
11:21:31 A couple of exceptions, heavy pickup trucks, Ford F-350
11:21:37 is not regulated.
11:21:39 Here we government and Ford F-450 would be because it's
11:21:43 bigger than 110.
11:21:44 Panel vans would not be regulated because they use
11:21:47 local streets all the time to make deliveries, the
11:21:50 FedEx truck, UPS truck and so forth.
11:21:53 Utilization of a trailer does not make a vehicle a
11:21:56 If you have a vehicle that's not otherwise a truck,
11:21:58 adding a trailer to it doesn't make it a truck.
11:22:00 Just to make it simple.
11:22:04 We have looked at the maps.
11:22:06 The other major change in the truck route system is
11:22:10 changing the method of enforcement.
11:22:11 Rather than having a truck route violation as a moving
11:22:14 violation where you put points on your license and
11:22:18 create issues for truck drivers, possibly losing their
11:22:21 commercial driver's license status, Mu nice pal, civil
11:22:27 This will go hand in hand with another aspect I'll talk
11:22:29 about in a moment.
11:22:30 To make the whole enforcement process easier, different
11:22:36 stiffer penalties buts easier for law enforcement and
11:22:40 the judicial system to deal with it.
11:22:42 I know your staff has already gone through some of the
11:22:44 proposed route changes with you.
11:22:47 There are ten additions to the system.
11:22:49 Six deletions from the system.
11:22:50 And a lot of these are a matter of cleaning up
11:22:54 For example, out in Drew Park near Tampa Airport, Cargo
11:23:00 Road which replaces Westshore Boulevard, the old
11:23:03 ordinance said Westshore was a truck route.
11:23:05 We are just cleaning it up.
11:23:07 22nd street south of Adamo Drive, another situation
11:23:09 like that.
11:23:12 So I have handouts of the presentation that I can leave
11:23:17 with you as well.
11:23:20 Interbay Boulevard, one particular road of concern as
11:23:25 was MacDill Boulevard.
11:23:26 >> So those cannot be changed, is what you are saying?
11:23:28 >> They will not be changed.
11:23:30 They could be changed, but there are good reasons why
11:23:34 they need to stay on the system.
11:23:36 One of the key things that and probably one of the most
11:23:38 important things that comes out of this is right now in
11:23:43 the City of Tampa, you have got about 1007 signs put up
11:23:47 telling trucks where they cannot go.
11:23:49 Most of those signs are on local streets, after you
11:23:51 turn off the major road, then the trucker sees that
11:23:54 sign, and it's like, oh, this isn't a truck route.
11:23:57 It shouldn't be a surprise, but the sign is there
11:24:00 saying in a trucks.
11:24:02 Instead of signing every road in the city as not being
11:24:04 suitable for trucks, it makes a lot more sense to put
11:24:08 up approximately 650 signs on the roads that are truck
11:24:13 routes telling the trucks, these are the truck routes.
11:24:15 The ordinance modifications then allow law enforcement
11:24:19 officer, if he sees a truck, not on a truck route, he
11:24:23 can immediately pull him over and ask him to show
11:24:26 evidence of its purpose for being on that road and they
11:24:30 can provide that evidence, they are in good shape.
11:24:32 So that combination of the signage program and the
11:24:36 ordinance changes, we believe, will make your truck
11:24:40 route system much more publicized and visible and the
11:24:43 enforcement process can be more effective.
11:24:45 >> That implementation program for the signage is not a
11:24:55 funded project in the city right now.
11:24:57 >> 250,000 is not budgeted?
11:24:59 >> That's correct.
11:25:00 >> And I think those are the major things.
11:25:04 I think the ordinance is going to be presented to you,
11:25:08 not sure when in the near future, for your
11:25:10 consideration and adoption.
11:25:11 And with that --
11:25:13 >> I was going to ask a question, when is the ordinance
11:25:15 coming back to City Council?
11:25:16 But you don't know yet.
11:25:17 >> Direct legal to put it on in the future.
11:25:27 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Some of us may not be here.
11:25:30 Depends on when it comes back.
11:25:31 >> It's coming back before May 1st.
11:25:38 >> April S, you mean.
11:25:40 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Councilwoman Capin.
11:25:42 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Go back one or two of the -- the next
11:25:45 The next one.
11:25:53 One more.
11:25:54 Right there.
11:25:55 There's in a signage for engine breaking real quick.
11:25:59 Engine breaking, explain that to me.
11:26:10 As conned as possible.
11:26:12 >> If you drive a car with an automatic transmission,
11:26:15 you probably don't know what this is.
11:26:16 But if you have a straight drive, if you went off the
11:26:20 gas pedal, then the engine slows you down.
11:26:27 Unfortunately it makes a lot of noise in that process.
11:26:29 In some area near ports, checkers has tended to use
11:26:33 that, makes a lot of noise especially if they come
11:26:35 through at night.
11:26:36 However, this issue, a vehicle should not have a
11:26:40 muffler system that exceeds noise limits.
11:26:45 And so there may be other ways of enforcing that but
11:26:49 again very difficult to enforce.
11:26:51 An officer has to be there with the proper equipment to
11:26:53 measure noise.
11:26:54 And it's just a difficult thing to do.
11:26:57 >>JOSEPH P. CAETANO: Who is responsible to keep the
11:27:09 trees trimmed?
11:27:11 >> Generally it's the Parks Department on most city
11:27:14 I don't know the specifics about a CCD orb HOA.
11:27:19 If they are not public roads, then the homeowners
11:27:22 association would be responsible.
11:27:23 >>JOSEPH P. CAETANO: We need to make sure of that
11:27:26 because I did get a call from the fire department that
11:27:29 some of their aerial trucks need at least 12 feet.
11:27:34 And if those aerials get damaged, it's very, very
11:27:41 Because I have an area that I live that didn't meet
11:27:43 that requirement.
11:27:44 So the trucker had to make sure that he didn't go
11:27:47 understood these trees.
11:27:49 >> Okay.
11:27:51 Very good.
11:27:51 I'll make a note of that.
11:27:53 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Any other questions?
11:27:59 Thank you very much.
11:28:00 On the next one, council, I think we can do this one
11:28:05 pretty quickly, number 6.
11:28:08 I understand you want to speak to number 6?
11:28:12 >>JULIA COLE: Legal department.
11:28:13 I know you are running short on time today.
11:28:15 I did want to let you know that this is a workshop on
11:28:19 the TCA ordinance changes.
11:28:22 We had discussed them with City Council previously.
11:28:25 This is scheduled to go to the Planning Commission and
11:28:27 come back to you for first reading.
11:28:29 On February 17th.
11:28:31 We also have a meeting scheduled with council members
11:28:34 individually to further discuss this issue.
11:28:37 And we have a great presentation but if you need to
11:28:42 move on to your next agenda item, I would simply ask
11:28:44 that you just make a motion to transmit these to the
11:28:47 Planning Commission, and then they would come right
11:28:49 back to you for first reading.
11:28:50 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Anyone that wants to speak to?
11:28:56 Anyone else want to speak?
11:28:58 >> Al Steenson: I know it's late so I am going to be
11:29:02 very brief.
11:29:03 4100 west Leila Avenue representing Gandy Sun Bay South
11:29:09 civic association.
11:29:11 First of all, I hope that this particular presentation
11:29:14 that we just saw will be posted on the Internet so we
11:29:17 can pass it around to our individual members.
11:29:21 I know that it was done by an outside contractor and it
11:29:25 may be proprietary but the city paid for it so I hope
11:29:29 it will be put up and made available to the general
11:29:31 Number two, the issue that I have, I have a couple of
11:29:38 streets in my neighborhood that constantly have trucks
11:29:43 on them.
11:29:44 Now, the signs -- I'll give you one example.
11:29:48 There's a sign on Pearl Avenue, at the railroad tracks,
11:29:52 where the truck route stops.
11:29:55 It is actually smaller than a speed limit sign.
11:29:59 All it has is a little circle, you know.
11:30:01 >> That's on your street?
11:30:07 >> Pearl Avenue east.
11:30:11 There's a little section, and my suggestion is, make
11:30:19 these signs larger and make them more specific.
11:30:22 I don't know how they word them.
11:30:24 I have seen them before.
11:30:25 "no vehicles over six wheels."
11:30:29 That makes it -- one axle and duals on the back.
11:30:37 That allows FedEx and all the other people, Zephyrhills
11:30:42 water and so forth, and make these things bigger so the
11:30:45 truckers can do it.
11:30:46 Another one is on the other end of Pearl.
11:30:48 By the time these trucks turn in, and I have gotten
11:30:51 information that, for example, Macy's is routing their
11:30:56 deliveries down south Dale Mabry and onto Pearl.
11:31:01 Well, I have been trying to work with the -- trying to
11:31:05 make contact with the warehouse manager at Macy's and
11:31:12 the other one is Manhattan Avenue.
11:31:13 I see tankers going down there all the time.
11:31:16 There's not but one gas station on Gandy and that's on
11:31:19 the corner of Manhattan and Oklahoma.
11:31:21 If he's delivering, then he has a reason to be there.
11:31:26 I followed one of them down there and trying to make
11:31:28 the turn off of south Manhattan.
11:31:31 Onto Interbay, go westbound.
11:31:34 It's a disaster.
11:31:36 When he should have been going down Westshore when he
11:31:38 gets to Westshore and inner bay, just makes a nice
11:31:41 So, again, very quickly.
11:31:45 I hope that the transportation people will look into
11:31:52 Also, I know the police are busy but we need better
11:31:58 I have seen trucks going down Manhattan follow very
11:32:04 closely behind by a police officer.
11:32:08 So we need better enforcement but we need better
11:32:12 definition of where they should be and where they
11:32:14 shouldn't be.
11:32:15 Thank you very much.
11:32:15 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you very much, sir.
11:32:18 Anyone else?
11:32:25 >> President I'm Ed Tillou.
11:32:30 As I said, my training was industrial hygiene safety
11:32:34 My second one now is energy, alternative energy.
11:32:38 And at a prior City Council meeting, I tried to append
11:32:42 something and it wasn't very clear because I only had a
11:32:46 very short time.
11:32:49 Where trucks become more, and therefore truck routing
11:32:51 becomes important, is that this thing about using
11:32:58 natural gas, natural gas has some niches that it would
11:33:03 be good for, and that's essentially -- it's too
11:33:08 dangerous to use in cars.
11:33:09 It's not the answer to the gasoline costing more.
11:33:12 But the trucks and the buses could run on natural gas,
11:33:18 because they are float applications which makes the
11:33:21 greatest safety.
11:33:23 And a point I tried to make but didn't have time last
11:33:27 time is that this NIBA, not in my backyard, I was on a
11:33:35 committee in Baltimore about a bad location for a
11:33:38 natural gas terminal.
11:33:40 That was sparrow's point because the flames can go ten
11:33:45 But Tampa is very rare in having the bay as its
11:33:49 And you could actually put an offshore terminal in the
11:33:54 bay that would be reasonably safe.
11:33:55 So I think that's something to think about, because in
11:33:59 years to come the trucks and the buses will need fuel,
11:34:04 and the good candidate for that is natural gas, because
11:34:09 fleet can make it safe.
11:34:10 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay, thank you.
11:34:14 Anyone want to address the item on item 6 under the
11:34:22 Anyone want to speak to City Council?
11:34:24 Otherwise we are going to make a motion that this move
11:34:27 forward to the Planning Commission.
11:34:31 Anyone want to address City Council?
11:34:34 134 move to send to the Planning Commission, number 6.
11:34:40 >>JOSEPH P. CAETANO: Second.
11:34:44 >>THOMAS SCOTT: All in favor?
11:34:47 And that will come back to us when?
11:34:51 Whenever they hear it?
11:34:52 >> February 17th.
11:34:53 >> Okay, thank you.
11:34:56 The next one is the alcoholic beverages.
11:34:58 We have about -- well, how long are you going to be?
11:35:07 People are saying they have to leave.
11:35:16 I think Mrs. Capin who had to leave made the motion.
11:35:20 Why don't we continue this to the workshop, the
11:35:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: February 24th workshop was
11:35:27 changed to a regular meeting.
11:35:31 February 24th?
11:35:34 Forgive me.
11:35:34 That is presently set.
11:35:36 >>THOMAS SCOTT: We have one workshop thus far, right?
11:35:39 >> You have a 9:00 workshop to discuss, 9:30 to discuss
11:35:44 the creation of small business involving loan fund.
11:35:46 At 10 a.m. to have a discussion on the homelessness
11:35:50 issue relative to the solicitation in the
11:35:54 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay, then, do we want to continue
11:35:56 that one?
11:35:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I know there's some good people here
11:36:00 that intended for that, but I think the maker of this
11:36:03 movement is not here, and to do something, I don't
11:36:09 think it would be appropriate.
11:36:11 I know we have people taking time off to deal with this
11:36:15 morning, and with their consent I would like to move it
11:36:20 to a date where it would be more appropriate to hear
11:36:22 all concerns on both sides of the issue.
11:36:24 And being that we are short here three members of
11:36:28 council, I don't think it would be in the best interest
11:36:30 of the public to do it in this manner.
11:36:32 That's what I'm suggesting.
11:36:33 I don't know what the audience wants.
11:36:36 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Does anyone from the public want to
11:36:37 address council on that can come speak.
11:36:40 If you can come.
11:36:46 Come to the mike.
11:36:47 >>> I think it would be appropriate to continue this to
11:36:53 a date in the future.
11:36:55 It obviously has wide impacts on the operations of
11:36:58 these restaurants.
11:36:58 We respectfully request you continue it.
11:37:00 >> thank you.
11:37:04 Next speaker.
11:37:05 Next speaker.
11:37:06 >> Walter Crumbley from Courier City.
11:37:13 As my God friend says, no objection.
11:37:16 I would like to see it at a time where we can
11:37:19 adequately discuss it because it's got a long reaching
11:37:22 impact on neighborhoods as well as the city.
11:37:24 >> Next speaker?
11:37:28 Anyone else?
11:37:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Chairman, I get a sensitivity of
11:37:34 the audience they would like to have a full council and
11:37:36 to have a further date and that date was February
11:37:46 That's a workshop day?
11:37:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Yes, sir.
11:37:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: How many do we have that day, sir?
11:37:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: You have three.
11:37:54 The last one being at 10:00 to discuss the homelessness
11:37:57 And my understanding of council is inviting several
11:37:59 outside will organizations and government entities for
11:38:03 So whatever time you wish.
11:38:04 >>MARY MULHERN: Can I suggest that we put this
11:38:09 discussion on that, continue this to the 24th?
11:38:13 But then maybe continue.
11:38:15 We have discussion of the noise ordinance.
11:38:18 I think we could continue that one to March.
11:38:23 It's not as pressing.
11:38:25 And we might be able to actually get through those
11:38:30 >>THOMAS SCOTT: So you want to make a motion to that
11:38:33 >>MARY MULHERN: Uh-huh.
11:38:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I would second that motion based on
11:38:36 the value of the hearings that we are having.
11:38:40 I think even though it's a pressing issue, take a
11:38:45 couple of weeks so we can satisfy all parties.
11:38:49 So I would second that motion.
11:38:51 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Moved and seconded that we move the
11:38:54 noise ordinance out to, I guess, March, then place the
11:39:00 alcohol in its place?
11:39:03 Is that the motion?
11:39:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: If I can, Mr. Chairman, there is in a
11:39:06 workshop presently scheduled in March.
11:39:08 You changed the 24th from a workshop date to a
11:39:11 council date.
11:39:12 Your next workshop is scheduled for April --
11:39:18 >>MARY MULHERN: Move to the April 28th 134 move
11:39:22 the amended motion on the original motion to make it
11:39:25 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Moved and seconded.
11:39:27 All in favor?
11:39:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Again, council, if that issue should
11:39:31 be pressing, I'm sure the administration would bring
11:39:33 that to council's attention.
11:39:34 >>THOMAS SCOTT: So then we would hear the alcoholic
11:39:36 beverages on the 24th of February?
11:39:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: February, 9:00 a.m.
11:39:44 >> At 9:00 a.m.
11:39:45 >>THOMAS SCOTT: 9:00 a.m.
11:39:47 Everybody is happy and satisfied then?
11:39:50 Thank you all very much.
11:39:52 Receive and file?
11:39:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: So moved.
11:39:55 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Moved and seconded.
11:39:56 All in favor?
11:39:57 Anything else need to come before council?
11:39:59 Anything else?
11:40:01 Then we stand -- yes, sir?
11:40:04 >> Since we all came down here and it's close to lunch,
11:40:11 do you issue us lunch certificates?
11:40:13 Is that in your budget?
11:40:14 >> All right.
11:40:16 Thank you.
11:40:17 We stand adjourned.
11:40:17 Thank you.
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