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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL

Thursday, January 27, 2011

9:00 a.m. Workshop Session

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09:05:45 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Tampa City Council will now come to

09:05:47 order.

09:05:47 The chair will yield to the honorable Curtis Stokes.

09:05:51 >>CURTIS STOKES: Thank you very much, Chairman Scott.

09:05:52 I would like to call father David troops to the podium.

09:05:58 He attended Florida southern college for two years

09:06:01 before entering the seminary.

09:06:02 He began studying for the dais of St. Petersburg,

09:06:05 Florida, and was sent to St. John's seminary in Miami

09:06:09 where he obtained a B.A. degree in 1993.

09:06:12 He then attended the northern college.

09:06:22 He was ordained for the Diocese of St. Petersburg on

09:06:26 June 14, 1997.

09:06:28 During his four year tenure in Spring Hill, Florida, he

09:06:33 served as a number of the council and the regional seat

09:06:37 on the national board of the national federation of

09:06:40 priest councils.

09:06:40 Father troops studied in Rome at St. Thomas Aquinas in

09:06:49 2002, and Naples, Cabrine and Nairobi, was in Boynton

09:07:04 beach Florida,.

09:07:04 One year later he was promoted to Dean.

09:07:07 In addition to his responsibilities for a number of

09:07:09 articles he recently completed a bock called

09:07:12 proclaiming our priestly character.

09:07:17 In 2007, father accepted a position as social director

09:07:26 of the committee of clergy and vocations at the United

09:07:31 States conference of Catholic Bishops in Washington,

09:07:34 D.C.

09:07:34 In his capacity, he served to the Bishops committee for

09:07:38 clergy, life and vocations.

09:07:40 Today we honor our father David troops.

09:07:44 Thank you, father.

09:07:45 >> Most importantly, I am a son of God and a citizen of

09:07:48 Tampa.

09:07:48 So very happy to be with you and pray together this

09:07:51 day.

09:07:54 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Father, before we pray, would you also

09:07:55 remember those two fallen officers in St. Petersburg,

09:07:58 Florida?

09:07:59 Also, Patty Iala whose son was lost on Monday night,

09:08:07 and Councilwoman Miller had a death in her family.

09:08:11 Shall we rise and remain standing for the pledge of

09:08:13 allegiance?

09:08:14 >> Let us pray.

09:08:19 Good and gracious God, we ask your abundant blessings

09:08:24 upon us this day.

09:08:27 All those men and women called into public service to

09:08:30 serve the common good of our people, our city, of our

09:08:35 nation.

09:08:36 We pray for this City Council, that you always give

09:08:40 them wisdom, give them grace, give them your guidance.

09:08:47 We pray for all of those men and women in great need in

09:08:50 our city.




09:08:53 We pray for our educators.

09:08:55 We pray for those men and women who protect us.

09:09:02 We thank you for their selfless service.

09:09:05 We pray for those officers who have fallen in the line

09:09:08 of duty.

09:09:10 Grant them eternal rest.

09:09:12 Draw them unto you, O Lord.

09:09:15 We live up their families.

09:09:17 Give them strength and courage.

09:09:21 We pray, Lord, for a more just and equitable society,

09:09:26 that all men and women created in your image be treated

09:09:32 with equal dignity.

09:09:35 We pray for the safety of our city this weekend during

09:09:39 Gasparilla.

09:09:42 Protect all our citizens from any harm.

09:09:46 Keep them safe and draw them ever closer to you.

09:09:50 And bless the deliberations of this day.

09:09:56 We ask all of these prayers in your holy name.

09:10:00 Amen.

09:10:00 And I will bless you according to our Catholic

09:10:02 tradition.

09:10:03 May the Lord bless and protect you and may his face




09:10:07 shine upon you and be merciful to you and fill you with

09:10:10 his peace, the father and the son and the Holy Spirit.

09:10:15 Amen.

09:10:15 God bless you all.

09:10:16 (Pledge of Allegiance).

09:10:33 >>THOMAS SCOTT: We'll have roll call.

09:10:36 >>JOSEPH P. CAETANO: Here.

09:10:39 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Present.

09:10:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Here.

09:10:41 >>MARY MULHERN: Here.

09:10:43 >>CURTIS STOKES: Present.

09:10:45 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Here.

09:10:46 Thank you very much.

09:10:48 Father, thank you for your presence and for that prayer

09:10:50 this morning.

09:10:51 Also, we have a memorandum from Councilwoman Gwen

09:10:54 Miller.

09:10:55 Please be advised that I suffered the loss of my uncle,

09:11:01 Mr. Wells, Jr., and due to his funeral home, being held

09:11:07 this Thursday, I will be absent from the council

09:11:09 meeting.

09:11:10 Please be advised that I have asked councilman Stokes




09:11:14 to make the presentation to the police Officer of the

09:11:15 Month.

09:11:16 So Councilwoman Miller will not be here due to loss in

09:11:20 her family.

09:11:21 And again, let us also remember Patti Iala, one of the

09:11:31 staff persons here at the city, lost her son on Monday

09:11:34 night.

09:11:39 Is Shawn Harris here from Plant High School to be here

09:11:46 to observe the operation of city government, see how it

09:11:48 functions and how it works.

09:11:50 Okay.

09:11:52 Thank you.

09:11:53 Mr. Harris.

09:11:55 At this time, the chair will yield to the honorable

09:11:57 Curtis Stokes.

09:12:07 >>CURTIS STOKES: This morning we are here to honor the

09:12:08 police Officer of the Month.

09:12:10 And I have the honorable Chief Castor.

09:12:17 >> Good morning, council.

09:12:19 It's my pleasure to start the year off with one of

09:12:21 Tampa's finest.

09:12:23 We are recognize being sergeant Bob Nassief this month.




09:12:30 We rarely bring supervisors to this function.

09:12:32 We usually save this for officers and detectives.

09:12:34 But sergeant Nassief is one of our best.

09:12:41 He supervises a squad which is usually comprised of

09:12:45 younger officer.

09:12:46 I like to say midnights are the best shifts if it

09:12:51 wasn't for the hours.

09:12:51 So people out there doing that work have my eternal

09:12:54 gratitude.

09:12:56 Sergeant Nassief has been with the Tampa police for 28

09:12:59 years.

09:12:59 He is an amazing individual and leader as well.

09:13:03 As you may or may not know, he supervises squads that

09:13:07 Dave Curtis and Jeff Kocab were on the night they were

09:13:12 killed.

09:13:12 He does an amazing job.

09:13:14 You know how people are going to stand up in the face

09:13:17 of adversity and in this case tragedy and he did an

09:13:20 amazing job with that.

09:13:21 His patience and perseverance and leadership to work

09:13:25 through that adversity while producing a top producing

09:13:28 squad.




09:13:31 He has a very strong presence.

09:13:32 He has a very calming demeanor and he was able to pull

09:13:36 all of those squad members together and keep them

09:13:38 focused on the job.

09:13:41 I'll read just two examples of what he did recently.

09:13:47 He pulled a car over for an inoperative taillight, with

09:13:50 I is just a minor traffic infraction, and we encourage

09:13:53 our officers to do that.

09:13:54 As you know, officer Dave Curtis pulled the car over

09:13:58 for a minor traffic infraction on the night he was

09:14:02 shot.

09:14:02 The passenger fled and sergeant Nassief being very wise

09:14:07 and seasoned grabbed the driver who did not run and

09:14:10 brought in canine air service, everybody else to look

09:14:12 for the individual who ran.

09:14:14 While he was talking to the driver, he interrogated

09:14:16 him, got the name of the passenger, recalled that he

09:14:20 had just seen a bulletin out of district 2 that

09:14:23 indicated the passenger was wanted, they wanted to

09:14:28 interview him in reference to some crimes that had been

09:14:30 committed in district 2.

09:14:31 He also had a local pickup for violation on an armed




09:14:35 burglary.

09:14:37 He was on probation for battery on a law enforcement

09:14:40 officer and picked up for fleeing and eluding the

09:14:42 police.

09:14:44 Based on sergeant Nassief's excellent ability to bring

09:14:48 the troops around, set up a perimeter, bring in the

09:14:51 units, canine was able to locate this individual and he

09:14:53 was sent off to prison where he belonged.

09:14:57 The second instance was the mega supermarket on

09:15:01 Nebraska.

09:15:01 It had suffered burglaries in previous weeks.

09:15:04 So sergeant massive went down to be do surveillance.

09:15:07 He put his car in an area that couldn't be seen.

09:15:10 Sure enough the supermarket was being burglarized.

09:15:13 He had seen the suspect come out with the property in

09:15:16 hand, set up a perimeter, called in the calvary, and

09:15:19 they were able to grab this individual.

09:15:22 He had a lengthy criminal history as well, and he was

09:15:26 subsequently sentenced to prison.

09:15:28 So that was -- those are just two of the examples of

09:15:31 what sergeant massive does day in and day out.

09:15:35 And his leadership, compassion and character shine very




09:15:39 brightly in TPD's darkest hour.

09:15:42 And I can tell you not only is he a fine police

09:15:45 officer, he's a great human being.

09:15:47 So it is my distinct honor to recognize sergeant

09:15:50 massive as the Officer of the Month for January 2011.

09:15:55 [ Applause ]

09:16:06 >>THOMAS SCOTT: We have other gifts and tokens of

09:16:10 appreciation.

09:16:11 >> Danny Lewis from Bill Currie Ford.

09:16:15 I suddenly how you got your nickname, Dragon Slayer.

09:16:20 I am honored to be able to present you this watch this

09:16:22 morning.

09:16:22 Thank you for your service.

09:16:24 >> Tampa Police Benevolent Association.

09:16:31 On behalf of the Tampa PBA, congratulations.

09:16:35 Here is a $100 gift card.

09:16:37 >> Good morning.

09:16:41 Joe Durkin with Bright House networks.

09:16:45 Congratulations.

09:16:46 Thank you for your service.

09:16:49 On behalf of Bright House, this certificate for one

09:16:52 month free of all our services.




09:16:55 >> Florida Aquarium.

09:17:08 Congratulations.

09:17:09 It's an honor on behalf of the Florida Aquarium to give

09:17:12 you an annual pass for four individuals.

09:17:15 >> From the Straz center, four tickets for you and your

09:17:27 family to see a show.

09:17:33 >> Steve Stickley representing Stepp's towing service.

09:17:37 On behalf of Jim, Todd, Judy Stepp, we really

09:17:42 appreciate everything you guys do out there putting

09:17:45 your lives on the line.

09:17:46 We really appreciate it.

09:17:47 We want to hand you this statute.

09:17:50 Thank you very much for that.

09:17:51 We also have a gift card to Lee Roy Selmon's.

09:17:56 >> These roses are not for you but for your significant

09:18:05 other.

09:18:14 >> Those roses are early because we are going to send

09:18:18 you over to Bern's.

09:18:20 Is that okay?

09:18:22 And then go have lunch at Rigatoni he's.

09:18:26 And she can have your roses and picture taken at Bryn

09:18:31 Allen with the roses.




09:18:34 So you bet are put them in water.

09:18:36 Steve Michelini here on behalf of all those different

09:18:39 restaurants and institutions and Bryn Allen, Bern's,

09:18:44 and we would like to congratulate you for what you do

09:18:46 for us and protect us and keep us out of harm's way.

09:18:49 We appreciate you.

09:18:58 >> I would like to thank City Council, all the

09:19:01 businesses that recognize us.

09:19:06 It's just great.

09:19:07 Thank the chief and her staff for the support that they

09:19:09 give us.

09:19:10 I would like to extend a special thank you to major

09:19:14 honeywell and my chain of command, my current

09:19:19 lieutenant.

09:19:19 My previous lieutenant was la gathero.

09:19:26 Through the good times and bad times, just nominal.

09:19:30 These incidents the chief described, we couldn't have a

09:19:33 successful conclusion if it weren't for a group effort

09:19:37 with every member of our squad to include canine

09:19:40 officer Sandy Newman and Dave Bartman, Dennis Rodriguez

09:19:45 and the rest of the squad that came to my assistance

09:19:47 when I called for help.




09:19:48 It was once again a team effort that you just wouldn't

09:19:52 believe how it operates, and how smoothly it did come

09:19:55 to conclusion.

09:19:59 Finally, last but not least I would thank my wife.

09:20:06 Those dozen roses.

09:20:10 Her being by my side for 24 years of documented

09:20:14 marriage, that is.

09:20:15 [ Laughter ]

09:20:18 A couple of years there.

09:20:22 [ Laughter ]

09:20:23 But she stood by my side along with my daughter, too,

09:20:27 because she attends college in Orlando.

09:20:29 But they have both been very supportive.

09:20:33 17 years as a sergeant.

09:20:34 My wife really never complained about me being on the

09:20:37 midnight shift.

09:20:38 The chief assured me with that kind of seniority I'm

09:20:41 right around the corner I should be on a day shift.

09:20:48 I keep my fingers crossed.

09:20:50 No, my wife for 24 years of marriage has stood by my

09:20:54 side through the best of times and the darkest that

09:20:57 recently passed and for that I am so lucky.




09:21:00 I just want to say thank you so much.

09:21:03 [ Applause ]

09:21:05 >> At this time I would call chief Ford for firefighter

09:21:25 of the quarter.

09:21:25 >> Good morning.

09:21:42 Happy new year to those of you that I have not had the

09:21:44 opportunity to speak to at this time.

09:21:51 It's my honor to present to you Tampa Fire Rescue's

09:21:54 firefighter of the quarter.

09:21:58 The individual that we have selected is a veteran

09:22:01 firefighter with the City of Tampa fire rescue with

09:22:04 almost 30 years of service.

09:22:06 This individual has distinguished himself in a duty and

09:22:10 service and commitment to this community and

09:22:14 specifically at this point as almost our ambassador of

09:22:17 Tampa Fire Rescue.

09:22:18 He's the first line officer that any potential hiree or

09:22:23 any potential employee coming on Tampa Fire Rescue, the

09:22:27 first officer that they get the opportunity to address

09:22:32 and learn who is running.

09:22:35 He literally sets the pace or sets the table, if you

09:22:39 will, for the type of officer and the type of program




09:22:42 and the regimented organization that Tampa Fire Rescue

09:22:47 is.

09:22:48 Captain Mauger has distinguished himself in a line of

09:22:51 professional services.

09:22:52 Just last year alone, he personally interviewed over

09:22:57 1200 applicants for about 50 positions, and with the

09:23:02 rigorous positions of employment process that these

09:23:05 individuals have to go through, he does that with the

09:23:09 utmost professionalism, and each one of those

09:23:12 individuals have are given the absolutely care and

09:23:16 courtesy with respect to that application process.

09:23:18 Many times he is the one that makes the phone call to

09:23:21 let that individual know that they have been successful

09:23:25 in their employment application.

09:23:26 At the same time, he has to make that phone call to

09:23:29 those that say that they didn't quite make the cut.

09:23:31 So that's a very, very huge position there to do that.

09:23:35 And captain Mauger does it with the utmost.

09:23:39 He worked his way through the ranks starting as a

09:23:42 firefighter, then being promoted to paramedic, then to

09:23:46 lieutenant, and subsequently the captain's position

09:23:48 that he hold now.




09:23:49 He has also presented his skills to maintain and manage

09:23:54 a number of particular areas within the personnel

09:23:57 division, and he has basically trained and worked in

09:24:02 close proximity with the last five personnel chiefs for

09:24:05 Tampa Fire Rescue.

09:24:08 Captain Mauger on his off-duty work has been teaching

09:24:12 for the Hillsborough community college for more than 20

09:24:14 years in the areas of medical positions and paramedic,

09:24:20 and many of the EMTs and paramedics that work with

09:24:23 our agencies and multiple agencies within the Tampa Bay

09:24:26 area had to go through his course and have successfully

09:24:30 become proficient in those duties.

09:24:32 For those reasons and for this purpose it is my honor

09:24:35 to present to you this morning Tampa Fire Rescue's

09:24:39 firefighter of the quarter, our own captain Don Mauger.

09:24:45 [ Applause ]

09:24:50 He's accompanied by his lovely wife Cheryl, his mother

09:24:54 and their friend Robert.

09:25:01 >>CURTIS STOKES: I would like to present with you this

09:25:03 plaque, this commendation.

09:25:05 Thank you very much.

09:25:05 >> Tom wagman from flab aquarium, passes for you and




09:25:21 your family.

09:25:22 >> Danny Lewis, Bill Currie Ford.

09:25:26 Congratulations.

09:25:27 I guess you know -- congratulations and enjoy this

09:25:41 watch.

09:25:41 >> Joe during in, BrightHouse Networks.

09:25:47 Congratulations.

09:25:48 Certificate for three months services for all of our

09:25:52 services.

09:25:52 On behalf of Bright House, thank you for your

09:25:54 professionalism and years of service.

09:25:58 Tampa has been blessed to have its fire department.

09:26:03 >>

09:26:10 >> Straz center.

09:26:14 Tickets to for you and your family to come to the

09:26:19 Straz.

09:26:19 >> Congratulations.

09:26:21 Steve Stickley, Stepp's towing service on behalf of Jim

09:26:24 and Judy, Todd Stepp, I would like to present this

09:26:28 statute to you.

09:26:30 Almost 30 years of service.

09:26:32 It's quite an achievement there.




09:26:33 Also a gift certificate to Lee Roy Selmons.

09:26:36 >> My son Michael went through your course but he's a

09:26:54 firefighter in Orlando right now.

09:26:55 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'm not sure if he was complaining

09:27:03 or complimenting.

09:27:05 [ Laughter ]

09:27:06 The fundamentals of fire rescue and fire safety

09:27:09 obviously begin with education, and that's the first

09:27:11 line of defense.

09:27:13 And those that are dedicated to teaching hold probably

09:27:16 the highest esteem and should for this community in all

09:27:19 respects.

09:27:20 And because of that, we have tried to support the fire

09:27:24 department and the police department with the

09:27:28 firefighters of the quarter and the police officers of

09:27:30 the month.

09:27:31 Congratulations.

09:27:31 We are going to provide you with lunch from Rigatoni's,

09:27:35 from Bryn Allen studios, photographic package, and from

09:27:39 Bern's steakhouse, the gift certificate so you can

09:27:41 enjoy dinner there with your wife.

09:27:44 Congratulations.




09:27:44 And again, teachers are big in our hearts and we

09:27:50 appreciate what you do.

09:27:58 >> Jake Scohan, Tampa Firefighters Union local 754.

09:28:05 Captain Mauger he has been a member for 29 years and

09:28:09 hasn't missed one payment in those 29 years.

09:28:12 [ Laughter ]

09:28:15 I would like to present you with this plaque.

09:28:18 Congratulations.

09:28:19 A gift certificate for a local restaurant.

09:28:31 >> I guess now it's my turn.

09:28:33 Councilman Stokes, Chairman Scott, City Council

09:28:37 members, thank you very much for honoring me today.

09:28:40 Chief Forward and your staff, thank you very much.

09:28:42 Chief Gonzalez for acknowledging me.

09:28:45 I appreciate that.

09:28:46 My wife and my mom.

09:28:51 I have done 29 years.

09:28:54 I retired eight months.

09:28:56 I will have 30 years at the end of eight months.

09:28:59 It been a great career.

09:29:01 I couldn't have done it without the support of my

09:29:03 family and the rest of the people that you see here.




09:29:07 I thank the community for allowing me to participate

09:29:09 and be a member of this fine city and the organization

09:29:13 that I work for which happens to be Tampa fire, which

09:29:16 is probably the best fire department in the state, if

09:29:19 not the United States.

09:29:20 So I thank you very much.

09:29:22 And it's a distinct honor, and I'm very humbled by the

09:29:25 experience.

09:29:25 Thank you.

09:29:27 [ Applause ]

09:29:38 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you very much for your service.

09:29:44 Council, we do have in our presence several of the high

09:29:51 schools who have done well.

09:29:57 And so what we are going to do, we are going to ask

09:30:00 each of the council persons if they can hold it down --

09:30:03 if they can hold it down we would appreciate it.

09:30:04 Worry still in session

09:30:07 I ask each of the council to make two presentations at

09:30:11 this time, so each of you will call both principals up

09:30:14 and recognize them and make whatever comments you

09:30:17 desire.

09:30:19 We will start with Councilwoman Mary Mulhern.




09:30:27 I want to recognize school board member Olson who is

09:30:30 here, and the opportunity for some words after the

09:30:34 presentation.

09:30:35 Thank you.

09:30:35 >>MARY MULHERN: I have the honor of presenting these

09:30:42 commendations to Riverview High School, principal

09:30:46 Robert Heilmann.

09:31:01 This is for you and your staff and your students for

09:31:04 their great performance and bringing your school up in

09:31:09 the ratings to, I believe, an "A" school.

09:31:12 Very proud of you.

09:31:17 Thank you.

09:31:18 And I would like to present this commendation to

09:31:20 Wharton high school, principal Brantley Woods.

09:31:26 [ Applause ]

09:31:32 City Council commends you, your staff and your students

09:31:34 on their great performance and great grade that they

09:31:39 brought the school up to in the last year.

09:31:41 Thank you.

09:31:47 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Councilman Miranda.

09:31:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, honorable

09:32:03 members of City Council.




09:32:04 I'm very proud today to be here with the principal

09:32:07 Sharon Morris of east bay.

09:32:10 I believe that's the eagles, if I remember.

09:32:12 And principal Robert Nelson from Plant High School.

09:32:15 And I believe I know that's the panthers.

09:32:22 [ Applause ]

09:32:25 I stand corrected for my 12,200th time.

09:32:31 It's the Indians.

09:32:32 I'm honored this morning because this is about

09:32:34 academia.

09:32:36 There's nothing wrong with sports, but good people like

09:32:38 this and good students in the schools sometimes are put

09:32:43 on page 3 of a two-page newspaper.

09:32:46 Let me say this, both to Sharon Morris and to Robert

09:32:50 Nelson from east bay and from Plant High School.

09:32:53 The members of this City Council take great pleasure in

09:32:56 recognizing and commending both of you, your staff at

09:33:01 both schools, plant high and east bay high, for

09:33:05 improvements, tremendous improvements that your

09:33:08 students have made, and the God grades in becoming an

09:33:13 overachieving school.

09:33:14 We are very proud of each and every one of you.




09:33:17 And I know plant especially does well because I have

09:33:19 four granddaughters there.

09:33:20 So I'm very proud of both of you, your schools, your

09:33:25 faculty, your members.

09:33:26 I commend you both for your successes and your

09:33:29 students.

09:33:32 [ Applause ]

09:33:59 >>YVONNE CAPIN: It is my honor to call up principal

09:34:02 Maria Whelan, and principal Carla Bruning, King High

09:34:16 school.

09:34:18 Again, I had the honor at being at King High school

09:34:22 last Friday, and we dedicated 50 trees that were being

09:34:26 planted in and around the school, that were contributed

09:34:30 by parks and recreation, and Gaither high school.

09:34:36 I have three nephews graduated from Gaither high

09:34:39 school.

09:34:39 And it is my pleasure to present these to you.

09:34:41 Thank you.

09:34:46 [ Applause ]

09:35:10 >>JOSEPH P. CAETANO: It's my honor to present to

09:35:12 Rebecca Fitzgerald, principal of Newsome high school.

09:35:19 [ Applause ]




09:35:23 I want to thank you for your service, as we have a

09:35:26 great fire department, police department, we also have

09:35:29 a great school department.

09:35:31 Thank you very much.

09:35:32 >> Thank you.

09:35:45 >>CURTIS STOKES: At this time I would like to recognize

09:35:47 a personal friend of mine, a gentleman who exemplifies

09:35:52 the new era of educators, Mr. Owen Young, Middleton

09:35:57 high school.

09:36:01 [ Applause ]

09:36:14 >>THOMAS SCOTT: And the last two, council, it's my

09:36:16 pleasure to invite up Jake Russell from Sickles high

09:36:23 school, and also Jacqueline Haynes, also a member of my

09:36:28 congregation.

09:36:36 Indeed it is an honor to be able to present and

09:36:39 recognize all of these high schools today for their

09:36:41 outstanding accomplishments and achievements.

09:36:45 And we are very proud of the Hillsborough County school

09:36:50 system and the high schools for these academic

09:36:53 achievements and accomplishments.

09:36:54 Also, Ms. Haines, now that your congregation and your

09:37:01 church and your pastor is very proud of you, and the




09:37:04 accomplishments you have done at Blake high school.

09:37:06 Almost every Sunday we talk about excellence and

09:37:08 striving for excellence, and therefore you have been

09:37:13 listening to my sermons.

09:37:15 So we salute you today, and we salute principal Jake

09:37:19 Russell who is not here, but we have Gail Bottone

09:37:25 standing in for him.

09:37:26 So I just want to say how very proud we are of all of

09:37:31 you today, and want to recognize you and show you our

09:37:36 gratitude and how proud we are.

09:37:40 We are very proud of the accomplishments and

09:37:45 achievements, and our prayers are with you.

09:37:46 I am going to invite all the rest of the principals to

09:37:49 come for a word to say and take a picture together.

09:37:53 Also we have the administration to bring words as well.

09:38:00 Will you all come?

09:38:01 And if you have any words to say

09:38:07 >> I would like to say thank you to Chairman Scott,

09:38:11 also pastor Scott, and to the other City Council

09:38:15 members for this recognition at this time.

09:38:18 All of my peers, we all work very hard to make our

09:38:22 school system the best.




09:38:24 We have great leadership, with Mrs. Olson as our school

09:38:30 board member, and also miss Otero is here and Ms. Ty is

09:38:36 here, our superintendents.

09:38:37 We have the best school system in the country with the

09:38:41 leadership of superintendent Mary Ellen ELIA.

09:38:45 So we are so proud to be part of the school system and

09:38:48 to be principals.

09:38:50 Our work days are from seven until the next morning

09:38:54 seven.

09:38:55 So we are constantly working hard to make our schools

09:38:58 the best in Hillsborough County.

09:39:00 Thank you, Commissioner Scott.

09:39:01 >> Good morning.

09:39:08 I really appreciate your recognizing some of our very

09:39:11 best principals.

09:39:13 Since I'm a K-12 person, I have to say they couldn't do

09:39:16 it without all the elementary and middle school

09:39:20 principals who prepare the kids to go ton school and do

09:39:23 so well.

09:39:23 I think some people think it's easy to teach, it's easy

09:39:25 to run a school, if you can add 2 and 2 then you know

09:39:29 how to teach.




09:39:30 Not so much.

09:39:31 And our principals have to be instructional leaders

09:39:34 which means they have to help every teacher reach every

09:39:37 child every day.

09:39:38 There's no other country in the world that wants every

09:39:41 child to graduate from high school.

09:39:43 There's no other country that even tries.

09:39:45 We are very proud of our graduation rate.

09:39:48 It's in large part because of these folks.

09:39:52 And I think it's really important to recognize the hard

09:39:54 work that they do.

09:39:57 They work all hours, and then they maybe go home and

09:40:00 have dinner and get called back, or they are in the

09:40:03 middle of a soccer game that gets canceled, or they

09:40:06 have vandalism.

09:40:08 And all those things happen in addition to the work

09:40:11 they have to do every day.

09:40:13 It's not an easy job.

09:40:14 They deal with hysterical parents and occasionally

09:40:17 hysterical school board members, and they all do it

09:40:20 very elegantly.

09:40:22 So we really appreciate your recognition.




09:40:25 [ Applause ]

09:40:27 And my colleague Dr. Stacy white who is most recently

09:40:32 elected member of the school board is here, too.

09:40:34 >> Thank you, council members.

09:40:39 I just would like to thank you today for recognizing

09:40:43 our outstanding schools from throughout the county.

09:40:46 We often forget that the unincorporated areas of

09:40:51 Hillsborough County and the other municipalities

09:40:53 throughout Hillsborough County should have a

09:40:57 collaborative relationship with the City of Tampa.

09:40:59 And I certainly think that we do.

09:41:02 And your recognition of these schools from the eastern

09:41:05 portion of the county that I represent is very much

09:41:09 appreciated.

09:41:09 So on behalf of superintendent ELIA's staff and the

09:41:15 school board, I would like to congratulate all of the

09:41:17 principals, especially the principals from district 4

09:41:21 that I recommend -- I don't know why I keep saying

09:41:26 recommend -- that I represent.

09:41:27 Thank you so much for your hard work and your

09:41:29 dedication to our school district.

09:41:30 Thank you.




09:41:34 [ Applause ]

09:41:36 >>THOMAS SCOTT: If we can have everybody come and take

09:41:37 a quick picture with the superintendents real quick.

09:41:39 Come forward.

09:41:46 P . thank you, council.

09:43:07 Thank you all very much.

09:43:08 We will move to the first item for the workshop for the

09:43:11 morning, I believe that is the bicycle workshop on

09:43:20 bicycles, and what I would like to do is ask Mary

09:43:24 Mulhern to introduce this.

09:43:26 This is an item that she has continually worked hard

09:43:29 for.

09:43:29 I would like to recognize her to introduce this item.

09:43:32 Go ahead.

09:43:33 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

09:43:37 This is a great example of city, county transportation,

09:43:42 the MPO, and the City Council, and county commission

09:43:46 coming together to try to solve a terrible safety issue

09:43:53 that we have had in the city over the last six months.

09:43:58 We have had, I believe, six or seven bicycle fatalities

09:44:05 of bike riders on the streets dying because of

09:44:11 accidents.




09:44:12 And we have had a lot of work going into this plan that

09:44:17 we hopefully will be adopting very soon together with

09:44:20 the county and the city.

09:44:24 So I believe we are going to start with a presentation

09:44:27 from Gina Torres from the MPO, the metropolitan

09:44:30 planning organization, and she's going to explain to us

09:44:34 the plan, the bicycle safety action plan.

09:44:41 Jean Dorzback?

09:44:44 >> Yes, this is a group effort.

09:44:47 Gina will be presenting the multi-agency multitask

09:44:51 force group that we have.

09:44:52 We have got a number of stakeholders here with TPD, the

09:44:58 MPO.

09:44:59 We did want to ask and request -- Gina does have a

09:45:02 brief PowerPoint that's loaded in next door.

09:45:05 We didn't quite meet the deadline to get that submitted

09:45:08 and make the request to the chair to use that.

09:45:10 If you indulge us, we have got that ready and I will

09:45:14 let Gina go through the presentation and we'll take

09:45:17 whatever questions you have.

09:45:17 >> Thank you, Mary.

09:45:30 There were a an alarming number of bike fatalities last




09:45:34 year, and you guys, I don't want to ask one more time

09:45:37 but you can see my presentation, right?

09:45:40 So there were a lot of concerns, City Council obviously

09:45:45 had, and the Board of County Commissioners really just

09:45:48 decided to step up and ask the public works department,

09:45:51 let's do something.

09:45:52 What can we do to make it safer for these cyclists out

09:45:56 on the road?

09:45:57 So the MPO with the city joined in.

09:45:59 We quickly got together a project team to come up with

09:46:02 solutions, let's make it safer out there

09:46:06 So what we did is we decided to begin putting together

09:46:10 bicycle safety action plan.

09:46:12 It's mirrored after pedestrian action safety plan which

09:46:15 is really well done and we thought this is great, it

09:46:18 has very definitive action plans, people that can

09:46:22 actually go something.

09:46:33 And what's going on with our crashes here?

09:46:37 Their trends show a fluctuation, and the graph 2010, I

09:46:44 think you would have seen a spike, but overall, we are

09:46:46 still well above the national average even when we do

09:46:49 have a lower year of bike crash fatalities.




09:46:52 And the most severe crashes, to reduce the one photo in

09:46:57 the red and the purple.

09:46:58 So where are the crashes happening?

09:46:59 All over the place, all over the county.

09:47:01 But 70% of them are in this kind of area here and it's

09:47:06 bound by Sheldon and 75 and Fowler and Kennedy.

09:47:09 And then you start to see some corridors, some roadway

09:47:13 sections that are really coming to the surface, where

09:47:16 people are getting hit.

09:47:17 And these are people -- and you can make the assumption

09:47:21 these are people trying to get to a job, or to an

09:47:24 appointment, because they are using the regular roads.

09:47:27 This is not really an exercise.

09:47:31 They are not re-creating.

09:47:33 This is transportation.

09:47:34 So that's where the crashes occur, and who is getting

09:47:37 hit.

09:47:37 You might be surprised, I don't know, but 25 to

09:47:41 50-year-olds make up the most number of people being

09:47:45 hit and maybe employed getting to their jobs, and they

09:47:48 are of driving age but they bicycle.

09:47:50 So we have done a lot of analysis.




09:47:52 This mapping series shows you the race and ethnicity of

09:47:56 the cyclists getting hit, and it's throughout the

09:48:00 county.

09:48:01 Just some interesting crash analysis that we did so we

09:48:03 can move forward with coming up with solutions.

09:48:06 So that was where and who is getting hit.

09:48:08 Now why are they getting hit?

09:48:10 One of the crash types, this is when a motorist comes

09:48:13 out from either a side street or a driveway, and it's

09:48:18 not a signalized intersection.

09:48:21 Well, it also needs to be noted that the cyclist more

09:48:23 than likely was riding against the flow of traffic in

09:48:26 this situation, which is illegal when they are in the

09:48:28 road.

09:48:29 It's not illegal on the sidewalk, but in a minute we

09:48:35 will have a few of the action items I will go over.

09:48:37 We'll try to combat this particular crash problem.

09:48:43 You have probably seen this yourselves.

09:48:45 It's a cyclist kind of crosses the road when you are

09:48:48 not expecting them.

09:48:50 But a cyclist decides to make their turn.

09:48:55 Then that's more serious crashes, more night-time




09:48:59 crashes happen where a motorist overtakes, going the

09:49:02 same direction, but where the cyclist is not wearing

09:49:08 proper colors or lights aren't on the bike.

09:49:10 This is a common cause as well.

09:49:12 And our solutions will combat those. so all in all

09:49:16 basically they are all across the board, motorists,

09:49:19 cyclists, people aren't doing things right, and when we

09:49:24 focus our efforts you will see that we are trying to

09:49:26 reach everybody.

09:49:30 Nighttime crashes, most of the fatalities are happening

09:49:32 at night, again when cyclists aren't equipped many

09:49:35 times with lights, the motorists are distracted or

09:49:38 speeding so there's kind of fault everywhere.

09:49:41 So what do we do now?

09:49:42 We have two, three public workshops, even brought in a

09:49:45 national expert, now in San Francisco, but Michael

09:49:50 showed us some countermeasures that will help.

09:49:56 Michael Moula.

09:49:58 People could make a commitment and say, yes, we think

09:50:00 that we can do this.

09:50:01 This is what we are doing already.

09:50:04 Breakout sessions.




09:50:05 Citizens are present.

09:50:06 Activists, or just cycle-interested people.

09:50:10 So we had some really good input.

09:50:11 So after these workshops, we developed goals,

09:50:15 strategies, objectives.

09:50:15 I am not going through those.

09:50:17 But from the strategies we have specific action that we

09:50:20 can do right away.

09:50:21 And this will combat some of those crashes that I

09:50:23 described.

09:50:26 It's a pest example.

09:50:28 The picture shows what we are talking about. This is

09:50:30 going against the flow of traffic legally, but they

09:50:33 shouldn't really be there.

09:50:34 We need to educate the motorists and cyclists.

09:50:37 It probably isn't the best place to be riding.

09:50:39 And this is probably one of the best solutions I think.

09:50:43 And these are low-cost.

09:50:45 This is something that we came up with, the stop sign

09:50:48 could be actually placed on the back of the sign.

09:50:51 You are not paying for another pole and another sign.

09:50:53 You put a sticker on the back of it, or maybe mount




09:50:56 another sign.

09:50:58 And we think if we get more of these out, this is at

09:51:01 least going to solve some of those problems.

09:51:04 And law enforcement has been great, and we just need

09:51:07 them to continue doing what they are doing when people

09:51:10 aren't behaving properly.

09:51:11 They were on board and they were there with us.

09:51:14 I want to mention, we had officers that were -- well,

09:51:20 I'll tell you what.

09:51:23 They are really interested.

09:51:24 And we have an idea.

09:51:27 But this is a piece that we have to get out to people.

09:51:32 The cyclists wearing blue, a motorist is not going to

09:51:35 see them at nighttime until they are 50 feet or so

09:51:38 away.

09:51:39 This is an incredible difference if they are dressed

09:51:41 properly so we can get some education out.

09:51:43 These are things we think we can do in the first year

09:51:45 or so.

09:51:46 Long-term, there's a crash that we see that motorists

09:51:51 pass the cyclist and turn right in front.

09:51:53 Well, in this case the cyclist feels they should be on




09:51:57 the shoulder and the right turn is in front of them.

09:51:59 We should maybe have more of these and this would be

09:52:02 done at an intersection.

09:52:04 That car turning right is not going to hit them because

09:52:06 they are going to be in the proper location.

09:52:09 These are fairly inexpensive, if you are working on a

09:52:12 road and resurfacing, put the stripe in the right

09:52:15 place.

09:52:16 If there are crashes going out in an intersection it's

09:52:20 maybe because they are not tripping the light green and

09:52:22 there are these little things they can do where a

09:52:25 cyclist can pull up and the light will turn green so

09:52:28 they don't go across.

09:52:29 Some other things in the next couple of years -- and we

09:52:31 have seen this.

09:52:32 There's plenty of samples downtown, the D.O.T.

09:52:35 If you take out maybe narrow lanes, and with the median

09:52:40 and the motorist lanes, now we have bike lanes.

09:52:45 This isn't a very popular thing probably in the City of

09:52:46 Tampa, but here is an example of just taking parking on

09:52:50 one side, and a bike lane used to be on both side of

09:52:53 the road so people don't go against the flow.




09:52:58 So these are just some solutions.

09:52:59 Your transportation department is probably even more

09:53:02 suitable for this because the city doesn't have that

09:53:04 many roads that are going to be widened, and this is

09:53:07 retrofitting things that are already existing.

09:53:09 The City of Tampa was the first in the State of Florida

09:53:10 to use this symbol.

09:53:12 It's paint.

09:53:13 And it's the cost of paint basically.

09:53:16 And if this can be put in where there's already

09:53:19 existing bike lanes on either end, let's use this,

09:53:23 perhaps that will be a good solution, and once we

09:53:26 educate everyone, it kind of gives them an idea that we

09:53:29 are all sharing the road together.

09:53:30 And this is new roads.

09:53:33 And the standard are very good about adding bike lanes

09:53:37 and such.

09:53:37 Another short-term strategy, we are going to do some

09:53:40 bike audits.

09:53:41 And you will see some results of that in the future.

09:53:43 Really looking specifically at the total corridors,

09:53:47 very specific crash mitigation things that we can do.




09:53:49 And then I think this immediately we are doing this

09:53:54 right now, looking for grants.

09:53:56 This is what I was going to tell you that I made you

09:53:59 wait, but we can buy a bunch of bicycle lights through

09:54:03 grants, the police officers on the midnight shifts, I

09:54:06 would hand them out in a second.

09:54:08 You pull somebody over.

09:54:09 You don't necessarily have to ticket them or give them

09:54:11 a warning.

09:54:12 Give them a light.

09:54:13 Or a kit that has this vest on it.

09:54:16 So we are going to do some of these quick things.

09:54:18 When this plan gets presented back to the Board of

09:54:20 County Commissioners, who really kind of initiate it, I

09:54:24 want to bring it back to the council and the city.

09:54:26 We would like to have it approved or endorsed and then

09:54:30 have a press conference, and the officers, we like to

09:54:33 get Chief Castor and the elected officials, we would

09:54:36 love for you guys, if you can make it probably at the

09:54:40 beginning of March, because this is my last slide.

09:54:42 We have three public workshops scheduled the end of

09:54:46 February, so like in the beginning of March we would




09:54:48 like to then have this whole thing kind of kicked off

09:54:51 at the press conference.

09:54:52 So we will have some more public input, and hopefully

09:54:56 really have the action items are going to be

09:54:58 implementable.

09:54:59 And we have a lot of support from the agencies that

09:55:01 build things to do it.

09:55:02 So if you have any questions.

09:55:08 Thank you.

09:55:08 >>> (away from microphone)

09:55:19 >>MARY MULHERN: Allen, his group, which is the

09:55:33 southwest Florida bicycle united?

09:55:38 >> You got it.

09:55:39 >> They are also bikers, not those kind of bikers shall

09:55:42 not like hell's angels, but bicyclists who are using

09:55:49 riding bikes for commuting and recreation, and Allen

09:55:53 really spearheaded getting this started.

09:55:55 So I think he has done a lot of reeven and would like

09:55:59 to hear from him.

09:56:00 >> Thank you.

09:56:01 I want to thank City Council for having this workshop

09:56:05 and for embracing this issue.




09:56:06 I have lived here seven years, and to the best of my

09:56:09 knowledge nothing like this has happened before.

09:56:11 So I really commend you folks for tackling this issue

09:56:14 and I appreciate the time and all the staff that has

09:56:18 been working on this.

09:56:20 I support the suggestions that Gina summarized, and I

09:56:25 think they are sound and sensible.

09:56:28 I think they are an outstanding positive first step

09:56:33 towards dealing with bicycle issues in the metropolitan

09:56:36 Tampa area.

09:56:37 I also think it's an ideal opportunity to also use this

09:56:41 as a launching opportunity to put in especially some of

09:56:45 these shared road markings that Gina showed on roads

09:56:48 that are traveled by bicyclists, especially routes that

09:56:53 people take from South Tampa to downtown and from

09:56:55 downtown to the USF campus.

09:56:57 I'm happy to talk to you about some of the roads that

09:57:00 most bicyclists do take, and that I take, that could be

09:57:07 candidates for those shared road markings.

09:57:11 There are a couple bicyclists here who I happy will

09:57:14 have an opportunity just to save one or two minutes

09:57:18 worth of comments, especially someone from Seminole




09:57:20 Heights that actually is log at using bicycle

09:57:24 transportation to link neighborhood and parks from

09:57:27 downtown up through Seminole Heights and also to the

09:57:30 USF campus.

09:57:32 So I think that's important, too.

09:57:35 But my comments is that really, this is an ideal time

09:57:41 now to move forward.

09:57:42 I can tell you that people on the street are very

09:57:46 concerned about this particular issue.

09:57:50 Not only, I think, do we need to address safety issues,

09:57:54 we need to also address the safety issues within the

09:57:56 broader context of building a bicycle-friendly city.

09:58:00 And that means all -- hitting everything.

09:58:03 It means awareness.

09:58:05 It means media campaigns.

09:58:07 Better engineered roads.

09:58:08 More education.

09:58:09 And I pledge my support and helping you guys do that.

09:58:14 I appreciate your time.

09:58:16 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you.

09:58:26 Come up.

09:58:26 Who is next?




09:58:30 I was trying to get all the presentations because we do

09:58:34 have opportunity for public comments.

09:58:35 I don't want to interrupt the flow.

09:58:39 We'll have presentations and then public comment.

09:58:48 >>JEAN DORZBACK: Transportation.

09:58:48 I don't have anything further to present.

09:58:51 I did just want to mention another component of the

09:58:56 bicycle/pedestrian issue.

09:59:01 We have a study being conducted currently.

09:59:03 It's actually an outshoot of the adoption of a

09:59:06 comprehensive plan for next year, and we have the

09:59:10 generous support and funding through the MPO for this

09:59:14 called the walk bike plan.

09:59:16 As a subset of this bigger bicycle safety action plan,

09:59:21 and that has been going on for a few months now,

09:59:24 Tyndall Oliver, our consultant.

09:59:26 I want to mention this plan will be done in the next

09:59:28 couple of months.

09:59:29 We'll outline sidewalks and bicycle projects that we

09:59:32 are going to be looking to fund through a capital

09:59:36 improvement program, and that will also interface with

09:59:39 a multimodal roadway plan that we have currently




09:59:42 underway as well.

09:59:43 And we are lag to have that roadway plan layered in

09:59:47 with the bike plans so that we have a comprehensive

09:59:50 plan.

09:59:51 We'll have the roadway projects can support some of the

09:59:54 bicycle projects that we want to do and make sure all

09:59:56 the linkages are appropriate.

09:59:59 This walk bike plan is majoring on our Westshore area,

10:00:05 downtown, and the USF area.

10:00:07 And we are going to be looking to do a phase 2 of this

10:00:11 to address the other portions of the city as a second

10:00:13 phase.

10:00:14 So just want to mention that's also ongoing.

10:00:17 We will be looking to give you more detailed

10:00:18 information on that as it gets further down the road.

10:00:21 >> Is Mr. Mill herer today?

10:00:27 >> Yes, he is.

10:00:28 >> Did we want him to give a brief --

10:00:31 >> We have that information available for you, if you

10:00:33 would like to get some of the highlights, he is here

10:00:36 and was prepared to do that.

10:00:37 >>MARY MULHERN: I think if we can give him a few




10:00:41 minutes, it would be great because the city actually is

10:00:43 doing a lot, and the study that they are working on,

10:00:49 they have been reporting to the MPO and working with

10:00:51 transportation staff.

10:00:52 But we are already doing a lot of this, and we are

10:00:54 doing it before these fatalities happen.

10:00:56 >> Yes.

10:00:58 This really started quite some time ago.

10:01:00 But it will be supportive of the bicycle safety plan

10:01:07 yield.

10:01:07 >> Can I ask you one question?

10:01:09 Because I know we have been talking about this for

10:01:11 years in regard to bicycles.

10:01:13 But the restriping of roads, are we to the point now in

10:01:16 your department where when a road is getting resurfaced

10:01:20 we always study and try, at least attempt space to put

10:01:27 in a bicycle lane, or for a share road if that doesn't

10:01:30 work?

10:01:31 >> Yes.

10:01:31 We are continuing that practice of communicating,

10:01:35 coordinating with our department of public works

10:01:37 through their paving program.




10:01:39 We actually have a key project that we are getting

10:01:42 ready to start with in the next month.

10:01:44 It's North Boulevard complete street project.

10:01:47 It's going to go all the way from Cass Street, there's

10:01:52 a park in Osborne it will connect to.

10:01:54 It will be a combination of sharrows and bicycle lanes,

10:01:57 and that's going to be starting in the next month.

10:02:00 We are going to continue that practice of looking for

10:02:02 opportunities through a repaving program.

10:02:04 But we will also be looking at that so it will be

10:02:07 consistent with this walk bike master plan that we are

10:02:10 developing.

10:02:11 >> So between the walk bike master plan and the bicycle

10:02:16 safety action plan, perhaps there could be an

10:02:19 opportunity for us to write that into our

10:02:22 transportation code.

10:02:26 So we will wait till we get those results.

10:02:28 But that's way hope.

10:02:29 I think that's probably the most important thing

10:02:32 important thing council could do.

10:02:33 Thanks.

10:02:33 >>> We have a presentation but I'm not sure how to pull




10:02:43 it up.

10:02:44 >> State your name for the record, please.

10:02:45 >> My name is -- Miller with Oliver associates.

10:02:49 So wail do is hand it out to you real quick, if that's

10:02:53 all right.

10:02:53 >>THOMAS SCOTT: It's up on our screen.

10:03:18 >> The main point as Gina mentioned is this activity,

10:03:21 in addition westbound the bicycle safety action plan,

10:03:25 also implements the city's comprehensive plan and the

10:03:27 MPO long-range transportation plan.

10:03:30 As Gina noted the city's comprehensive plan identifies

10:03:33 three major growth areas, downtown, USF, Westshore.

10:03:36 And we understand that in order for those areas to

10:03:39 continue to develop, people not only need to get there

10:03:42 by driving or through the transit system but also to be

10:03:45 able to walk within and around those areas and to ride

10:03:48 their bikes.

10:03:49 So this plan starts in those areas and really

10:03:53 develops -- can be used to fill out the planning for

10:03:59 the remainder of the city.

10:04:01 The approach is how do I get from West Tampa into

10:04:05 downtown or from Temple Terrace into the USF campus.




10:04:08 And then key word is to identify constructible

10:04:11 projects, that can either be done through the sidewalk

10:04:13 programs, through the resurfacing program, or using

10:04:17 ongoing D.O.T. projects, or some of the MPO enhancement

10:04:22 funds.

10:04:23 But really we are trying to do things that can be done

10:04:25 quickly, and relatively cheaper.

10:04:28 So these are the study areas.

10:04:29 We basically did a two-mile radius working with people

10:04:32 like Al and others.

10:04:35 We understand there's a need for some of the longer

10:04:37 corridors to connect, for example, from USF to

10:04:40 downtown.

10:04:40 But in this phase of looking at this, we are really

10:04:42 looking at the immediate vicinity of the three major

10:04:45 business centers.

10:04:46 Again, that has all been a process within the city.

10:04:52 We have been through stakeholder coordination.

10:04:54 We have assessed the priorities and really gone through

10:04:56 and looked at what's already being done.

10:04:59 We are in the process of evaluating our projects for

10:05:02 constructibility and cost.




10:05:03 And then once we identify the projects we want to do,

10:05:07 we are going to come back in and work with city staff

10:05:10 and also D.O.T. to make sure we have a sound

10:05:13 implementation plan.

10:05:15 And what I am going to do is rather than looking at

10:05:18 each area I am going to use the agenda because I

10:05:24 understand you have a lot on your agenda today.

10:05:26 The red lines represent projects that have been

10:05:29 completed within the last five years or so.

10:05:30 You have got bike lanes on Tampa street now, Nebraska

10:05:34 Avenue, which was a huge success in terms of all types

10:05:37 of traffic safety, Palm Avenue, and bike lanes are part

10:05:41 of it.

10:05:42 And then other projects as well.

10:05:45 Jackson street, the riverwalk, which is an existing

10:05:49 ongoing project, Meridian, the North Boulevard project

10:05:54 which is going to begin shortly, as Jean mentioned is a

10:05:57 new prong for the city, 22nd street enhancements.

10:06:00 Part of it has to do with the Crosstown project.

10:06:04 And other projects the city is doing on its own.

10:06:06 Then bridge replacements.

10:06:07 I think we have heard a lot about these.




10:06:12 What's really exciting is those bridges are

10:06:14 reconstructed, the bicycle pedestrian facilities will

10:06:17 be improved.

10:06:18 Then also the Bayshore project which is forthcoming.

10:06:22 So given that these are things that are in the works,

10:06:25 and recent new set of projects.

10:06:31 Many things, for example, downtown, create north-south

10:06:35 corridors.

10:06:36 Our focus has been on east-west connections.

10:06:38 And I am not going to go through each one.

10:06:40 But things like Rome Avenue, making a connection

10:06:42 through Columbus, Palm Avenue could go from four lanes

10:06:45 to two-lane roadway, bike lanes.

10:06:48 Those are the types of projects we are looking at.

10:06:50 We are doing this not only in the downtown but also the

10:06:52 Westshore area and the USF area.

10:06:54 And USF particularly we are looking at intersection

10:06:57 safety because of the high bicycle pedestrian crash

10:07:00 incidents there.

10:07:03 I skipped through these quickly because I don't want to

10:07:06 take too much of your time this morning.

10:07:08 Westshore is challenging because of connections.




10:07:11 Some of the really major roads there make it much more

10:07:15 difficult to create that kind of act at this time.

10:07:18 Nonetheless we think there's some projects that we can

10:07:19 accomplish.

10:07:20 Briefly, I'll point out the sidewalk at Hillsborough we

10:07:23 think is critical, and then also getting some sort of

10:07:27 facility along Boy Scout Spruce which is part of the

10:07:29 trails master plan the city has already developed.

10:07:32 From here forward, we need to go back and work with the

10:07:35 project management team which includes city

10:07:37 transportation staff, parks and rec, and MPO, also

10:07:40 coordinate closely with our partners at Florida D.O.T.,

10:07:43 and make sure that we have a good Sol I list of

10:07:45 projects to recommend going forward.

10:07:50 Constructibility reviews, for right-of-way acquisition

10:07:53 or stormwater work, things that can slow down a project

10:07:56 and increase cost.

10:07:57 Then finally looking at implementation plan and

10:07:59 identifies the needs, costwise, and also look to

10:08:04 existing city budget program areas, and the MPO funding

10:08:07 capacity to get these things done in a timely fashion.

10:08:10 We thank you very much for your time this morning.




10:08:11 >>MARY MULHERN: Could you include in your plan?

10:08:19 Do you do cost estimates in this?

10:08:20 >> Correct.

10:08:21 Part of the plan.

10:08:22 Once we work with staff to identify the short list of

10:08:24 projects and go through and make sure they are truly

10:08:27 feasible, we will be doing a cost estimation for them.

10:08:30 And in many cases, as Gina mentioned, to the extent we

10:08:34 can work things into the resurfacing program the

10:08:37 additional cost may be marginal.

10:08:38 >> That's what I was wondering about specifically.

10:08:40 If you could give us the cost of putting sharrows,

10:08:45 that's just -- you don't even have to restripe the

10:08:49 lane, right?

10:08:50 In the places where we are not necessarily going to be

10:08:53 doing resurfacing soon, but where there's a lot of

10:08:55 bicycle traffic, if those sharrows were just like -- it

10:09:01 seems like that's something we could do right away, and

10:09:06 on the roads where you have seen --

10:09:09 >> Yeah, I think the infrastructure cost to that is

10:09:12 minimal.

10:09:12 Clearly if you do it as part of the resurface it's




10:09:15 cheaper because you do have some mobilization.

10:09:17 And then one aspect is making sure the traffic

10:09:20 characteristics are appropriate for that treatment.

10:09:22 That is something that has to be ab transportation

10:09:25 initiative.

10:09:28 >>YVONNE CAPIN: On the same vein, which was along with

10:09:31 our resurfacing, which Ms. Dorzback said, that we are

10:09:38 talking about paint on the road, and that would be the

10:09:45 share road.

10:09:46 I live very close to Euclid, which that's exactly

10:09:49 what's on there.

10:09:51 And it serve twos purposes.

10:09:52 And it lets people know that this is also bicycle on

10:09:57 the road, and it's educational.

10:10:00 It remained you constantly that you are sharing, and I

10:10:14 would agree with Councilwoman Mulhern, that is

10:10:17 something we can implement right away.

10:10:20 Thank you.

10:10:20 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Tampa Police Department?

10:10:30 Do you want to make a presentation?

10:10:45 >> Captain, Tampa Police Department.

10:10:47 At the police department we are looking at enforcement.




10:10:51 We are hoping to remained some of our riders when we

10:10:55 are out and about that they need to have a helmet, they

10:10:59 need to have a light on their bike.

10:11:02 You know, sometimes we can give them a warning.

10:11:04 Sometimes we issue citations.

10:11:07 The other thing we are looking at is an education and

10:11:10 awareness program that you la into a few months back

10:11:18 and working on it and you understand the budget

10:11:20 restraints.

10:11:23 We are looking at putting on the back windows of our

10:11:26 police cars some marking that would remind people that

10:11:29 we are sharing the road with other bicyclists.

10:11:33 And we have so many cars out there as the police

10:11:39 department that that's what we are hoping, to put that

10:11:41 on some of our cars just to remind people, hey, you

10:11:43 have to share the road with other people, too.

10:11:45 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay, very good.

10:11:48 Thank you.

10:11:48 >>MARY MULHERN: I heard about that yesterday and I was

10:11:51 wondering if it was something that we could get bumper

10:11:54 stickers done, so maybe -- I'm not sure, and I won't

10:12:00 belabor this because we can talk outside the meeting.




10:12:02 But figuring out how to apply for the grant, the idea

10:12:07 of getting police officers the lights to hand out to

10:12:09 the bicyclists when you are stopping them.

10:12:11 But maybe we could do a bumper sticker.

10:12:16 >>> License plates for the front of our police cars.

10:12:19 We thought about butcher stickers.

10:12:21 Some markings throughout the back of the window.

10:12:23 You know, anything we can do to avoid having to give

10:12:26 somebody a citation and make a friend instead of an

10:12:29 enemy, we are all for that.

10:12:31 >>MARY MULHERN: We really appreciate your help with

10:12:34 this.

10:12:35 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you very much.

10:12:35 Let me raise a question.

10:12:36 Then we can go to public comment.

10:12:38 We don't have any other presenters.

10:12:40 Ms. Dorzback, I guess my question is, given that Tampa

10:12:43 is the leading city in the nation for bicycle

10:12:48 fatalities, have we looked at the cities that has the

10:12:53 least fatalities and see what it is that they are doing

10:12:58 and try to replicate that here?

10:13:01 >>JEAN DORZBACK: We haven't done a specific study in




10:13:04 that regard.

10:13:04 But we are doing that as part of our standard practice.

10:13:10 For example, the sharrows, we got that idea, if you

10:13:15 want to call it that, through another state through

10:13:17 doing the research, through our national information on

10:13:21 what other states are doing.

10:13:22 We have also gotten some information on different

10:13:26 signage that we are looking at using for different

10:13:28 things.

10:13:29 So we don't have any specific study going on, but we

10:13:31 definitely -- as a standard practice look at national

10:13:35 ideas, signage, trend, and so forth.

10:13:39 >>THOMAS SCOTT: I understand that.

10:13:40 I just thought that since we are the leading city in

10:13:43 terms of fatalities that we look at the cities that

10:13:47 have the least fatalities and see what is it that they

10:13:51 are doing that will cause them to have the least

10:13:54 fatalities, and maybe duplicate some of the things that

10:13:57 they are doing.

10:13:58 I understand you are looking at various areas.

10:14:03 >>JEAN DORZBACK: We could do that.

10:14:04 It's hard sometimes in these different studies that




10:14:06 come out.

10:14:07 Sometimes you have apples and oranges, you know.

10:14:10 A city may have a low incidence because of their

10:14:14 population, the way the transportation system is.

10:14:17 It's not always necessarily a direct comparison.

10:14:20 And information we can use from others that's going to

10:14:22 help us in our planning, we definitely try to do that,

10:14:26 will continue to do that, and make a special point to

10:14:29 do that.

10:14:29 >>MARY MULHERN: Yeah, I want to give you more credit

10:14:32 than you are giving yourself because I think a lot of

10:14:34 the things we are talking about today, the road guys,

10:14:37 especially, I think especially in New York City where

10:14:40 they have made it, it's gone from the city where you

10:14:42 just had bicycle messengers to be a city where people

10:14:45 are riding their bikes a lot, they did road diets, they

10:14:51 did bicycle lane shares, all the things that we are

10:14:54 talking about today.

10:14:55 So I think you are modeling after some of those.

10:14:59 But it really is about the city making a commitment

10:15:05 overall to make this a bike-friendly city.

10:15:07 And if our transportation department has the support




10:15:10 and the go ahead from the administration to really look

10:15:14 at someplaces that have done it, they can do it.

10:15:17 So I think the more we encourage --

10:15:19 >> I think we have made that commitment, I believe, to

10:15:21 do that, given all the fatalities we have had lately,

10:15:25 and also as well as financing, as well as -- and I

10:15:30 think the MPO is a part of the partnership or part of

10:15:34 the agency that is working with us to help move us

10:15:38 forward, and as well to get oh some federal dollars.

10:15:41 So, yeah.

10:15:47 >>JEAN DORZBACK: And the big changing point was the

10:15:48 comprehensive plan that the council adopted.

10:15:50 That sets all these policies in place that really

10:15:53 changed our plan.

10:15:54 It used to be a transportation plan to the multimodal

10:15:57 plan.

10:15:57 And we have been working along that guide since that

10:16:00 point.

10:16:01 So that's really what got the energy started, and we

10:16:06 really had things going on prior to some of the

10:16:09 unfortunate incidents we have had recently.

10:16:13 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you very much.




10:16:15 Now we'll take public comment.

10:16:16 You have three minutes.

10:16:19 State your name for the record, please.

10:16:20 >> Ed Tillou.

10:16:27 I live in north Tampa by Sulphur Springs.

10:16:30 I went to USF.

10:16:31 I have a degree, masters in industrial high Jean and

10:16:35 safety management.

10:16:36 I came down to speak mostly with respect to what I

10:16:38 think is item 6, if that's the panhandlers, and --

10:16:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Mr. Chairman --

10:16:49 >> That is a --

10:16:51 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Sir, sir, sir.

10:16:52 >> The bicycle issue.

10:16:54 It's very much a safety issue.

10:16:56 >>THOMAS SCOTT:

10:16:58 [Sounding gavel]

10:16:58 Sir, please.

10:16:59 I'm trying to get your attention.

10:17:00 Now legal is trying to address council.

10:17:02 >> Okay.

10:17:04 I'm trying to call attention --




10:17:07 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Sir, please.

10:17:08 Please.

10:17:08 >> I'm drawing on my safety background-and experience

10:17:15 and try to bring it --

10:17:18 >>THOMAS SCOTT: If you will just be quiet for a

10:17:19 moment, please, sir, and let me hear from legal.

10:17:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'm sorry to interrupt the speaker,

10:17:24 but he had referenced item number 6.

10:17:26 And I wanted the public to be aware this being a

10:17:29 workshop day, the time for public comment is following

10:17:31 each individual workshop item.

10:17:33 So if you can just --

10:17:35 >> That may be true, but one thing is a real safety

10:17:38 issue and one is an imaginary safety issue, and this is

10:17:42 the real safety issue.

10:17:44 The points I wanted to make, number one, a light on a

10:17:47 bicycle is very vague.

10:17:49 The taillight, as the accidents have shown, is much,

10:17:52 much more important than the headline light.

10:17:54 The headlight helps me as a pedestrian.

10:17:57 And I'm often a pedestrian along Nebraska Avenue.

10:18:04 Here and there, it's about a one-foot bicycle lane




10:18:08 that's only here and there.

10:18:11 It isn't like Hillsborough County that has well defined

10:18:15 bicycle lanes.

10:18:17 Nonetheless, the breaks are still up on the sidewalk

10:18:19 which causes a problem for those of us hitting

10:18:24 pedestrians.

10:18:24 I used to be in a German bicycle sport club and we were

10:18:28 some of the first people to bring ten-speeds to the

10:18:30 United States and use them.

10:18:34 They are very fast.

10:18:35 What's even faster is bicycles with motors.

10:18:38 And I saw a bicycle with a motor going about 30 or 35

10:18:41 miles an hour against traffic.

10:18:44 Now, against 40 mile-an-hour traffic.

10:18:47 That's 75 miles an hour.

10:18:49 So the bicycles have got to be put with traffic.

10:18:54 Now, I think the police are very important in this

10:18:56 because they could stop bicycles on the sidewalk,

10:18:59 especially those going against traffic, in the traffic.

10:19:03 But they could stop them.

10:19:05 Look for -- advise them that that's a non-enforcement

10:19:12 issue because there aren't bicycle lanes, and there




10:19:15 haven't been a lot of complaints from pedestrians, but

10:19:17 to underscore the state laws are that the bicycles are

10:19:21 not supposed to be on the sidewalk.

10:19:24 And it's really a non-enforcement thing because nine

10:19:28 out of ten of the bicycles are very courteous and

10:19:32 worried about the pedestrians.

10:19:32 But one in ten thinks that's their right to be on the

10:19:36 sidewalk, very belligerent, and I think they need

10:19:40 public education.

10:19:42 As I say, many of the bicyclists are on the sidewalk.

10:19:46 And as I try to reconstruct admiral Collins' demise, I

10:19:51 think 90% of it was what was identified just before,

10:19:56 very wisely, that cars coming out, not stopping for

10:20:00 the -- coming all the way out, intending to turn, are

10:20:06 the real problem.

10:20:07 Now, there might have been a 10% contribution to the

10:20:10 accident by being on the sidewalk.

10:20:13 But as I say, going into a crosswalk, you see the

10:20:18 light, you go across.

10:20:21 So I think he was maybe 10% at fault in the accident.

10:20:26 But in any case, if the police stop, inform them, and

10:20:31 say, you know, you have done something against the law,




10:20:34 that gives them the ground to be ask --

10:20:37 (Bell sounds).

10:20:37 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay, thank you, sir.

10:20:39 Thank you.

10:20:39 Next speaker.

10:20:40 >> My name is Jim shirk.

10:20:52 I'm the chair of the Hillsborough County MPO bicycle

10:20:56 pedestrian advisory committee.

10:20:57 I would like to thank you very much for your sound

10:21:00 initiative in this area.

10:21:05 And also thank you very much for having a regional

10:21:09 concept.

10:21:09 Because this is a problem that doesn't have regional

10:21:12 boundaries.

10:21:13 Studies have been done, recommendations have been made,

10:21:16 and now it's time to show leadership.

10:21:20 All of you are candidates for election or reelection.

10:21:22 And I would like to remind you that we have things --

10:21:26 you have an opportunity here to show a great deal of

10:21:28 leadership in a short amount of time.

10:21:31 And this is something that's going to be a concern to

10:21:33 the bicycle community.




10:21:35 And we do support your endeavors really would love to

10:21:39 see your leadership, and we welcome anything that you

10:21:42 can bring to the table.

10:21:45 I particularly liked member Capin's discussion, because

10:21:54 not only educate the driver but educate the bicyclist,

10:21:57 and part of the problem is with the bicyclist.

10:22:00 If we can get the bicyclists riding with traffic,

10:22:03 riding with lights, riding properly and acting like

10:22:07 they are a responsible member of the community, then

10:22:09 the fatalities will go down.

10:22:11 Whether or not we affect the motorist, can affect the

10:22:14 motorist in a real way.

10:22:16 Thank you for your consideration of this serious

10:22:18 problem.

10:22:18 Thank you very much.

10:22:19 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you, sir, very much.

10:22:21 And I think that this council has been very proactive,

10:22:25 I believe, on this particular issue, very involved, and

10:22:28 three of us on the MPO have been very supportive.

10:22:31 So, yes, thank you very much.

10:22:33 Next speaker.

10:22:33 >> Good morning.




10:22:37 My name is Myron Griffin.

10:22:39 And I have co-chaired with Lena Green to form a

10:22:43 committee, a group that you may have heard of, the

10:22:45 green artery.

10:22:46 We are a consolidation of approximately 14

10:22:49 neighborhoods throughout the central Tampa region.

10:22:52 It's a relatively huge chunk of central Tampa.

10:22:56 It follows the Hillsborough River on the east side,

10:22:59 starting at downtown, wraps all the way around to 40th

10:23:02 Street, comes down 40th Street to MacKay Bay, then

10:23:05 along Adamo and back to Channelside.

10:23:08 It's a huge chunk of central Tampa.

10:23:10 We have gotten great participation from neighborhood

10:23:13 liaisons and our mission is to connect all of the green

10:23:16 spaces that exist within central Tampa.

10:23:20 I am looking at approximately eleven pocket parks just

10:23:24 on the Hillsborough River alone.

10:23:25 They are dotted along our beautiful river, and we are

10:23:28 trying to connect these pocket parks, all of our green

10:23:31 space was safe sidewalks, trails, and bicycle paths.

10:23:35 We have the support of Linda Saul-Sena and Ed

10:23:40 Turanchik.




10:23:40 We have had huge turnouts at our first four meetings.

10:23:43 We are planning our fifth.

10:23:44 That will be at East Tampa Reagan center February

10:23:46 8th.

10:23:47 We have got great support.

10:23:48 So what we hope to hand you is a consensus of what the

10:23:52 neighborhoods would like to see happening within their

10:23:54 own areas, and we would like to green up central Tampa

10:23:58 and create an image of a very livable city.

10:24:01 We are also very active with Linda Saul-Sena Tampa

10:24:06 group.

10:24:07 I have a couple of recommendations.

10:24:09 I am bringing it from the group.

10:24:10 We are meeting regularly.

10:24:12 But I would like to establish some suggestions for a

10:24:15 USF connection between downtown and USF.

10:24:18 If you looked at the areas that they are primarily

10:24:21 studying, Westshore, Tampa, USF, there's a big break

10:24:24 between USF and downtown Tampa, not considering it at

10:24:28 this point.

10:24:29 I understand he has his agenda.

10:24:30 We would like to shock how that path could go from




10:24:32 downtown through Seminole Heights, just primarily one

10:24:36 of the founding neighborhoods of this group, as they

10:24:40 would proceed from downtown northward and connecting us

10:24:44 with USF because we understand the value of this trail.

10:24:46 We would like to see all of these little pocket parks

10:24:48 along the Hillsborough River either connected with

10:24:51 sidewalks, bicycle lanes, or at the very least

10:24:55 sharrows, sharrows, sharrows.

10:24:58 We have many people who could enjoy these little pocket

10:25:01 parks but they feel like they are a world away whenever

10:25:03 they are divided by large highways.

10:25:05 We would like the streets that run along the river,

10:25:08 that don't necessarily have sidewalks or bike paths, to

10:25:12 be designated with sharrows, making it feel as though

10:25:15 we have been connected.

10:25:16 We want interaction between our central Tampa

10:25:19 neighborhoods.

10:25:19 We want to feel as though we can travel from, say,

10:25:23 Seminole Heights to downtown and take advantage of all

10:25:25 the cultural amenities of that area.

10:25:29 Connect, connect.

10:25:30 And we would like to acquire as much space and enhance




10:25:36 the existing space we have all over.

10:25:38 Recently, we were granted a sidewalk project that went

10:25:41 from Sligh to Hanna.

10:25:43 This is a very heavily used corridor through central

10:25:46 Old Seminole Heights,.

10:25:49 Allen takes his bicycle clubs there all the tame.

10:25:51 We have an $82,000 project.

10:25:53 But we do have sidewalks now.

10:25:54 Pedestrians no long very to battle these speeding cars.

10:25:57 But bicyclists are still on their own there.

10:26:00 I would like to recommend that 12th street from

10:26:02 Henry all the way up to the Hillsborough River be

10:26:05 considered for sharrows immediately.

10:26:07 (Bell sounds)

10:26:08 I would also like to recommend that Hanna be considered

10:26:11 for sharrows all the way across because it is a very

10:26:13 heavily used corridor.

10:26:16 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you.

10:26:16 >>MARY MULHERN: I want to say this all sound fantastic

10:26:20 but it is the first time that I think any of us heard

10:26:22 about it so you might want to invite council -- and I

10:26:25 don't know if you are working with Parks Department or




10:26:27 transportation.

10:26:27 >>> Yes, parks has been working with us, we have a

10:26:30 master plan and we are ready to talk.

10:26:33 >>MARY MULHERN: So invite us to your meetings.

10:26:35 >> Yes.

10:26:35 Next one is February 8th, Reagan center, 6:00.

10:26:39 As I said you will be on our e-mail master list.

10:26:45 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Next speaker.

10:26:45 Next speaker.

10:26:46 >> Kelly Benjamin, a life-long resident of Tampa.

10:26:58 I have been biking round Tampa's streets since I was

10:27:00 about five years old.

10:27:02 And I'm very happy to hear this dialogue being brought

10:27:05 up with the council.

10:27:07 It's very exciting.

10:27:08 I'm particularly happy to hear the comments from the

10:27:09 police depth captain that we are going to focus on more

10:27:12 visibility and more emphasis on education, because I

10:27:16 think in a city like Tampa that has this reputation as

10:27:23 the worst place in the nation to ride a bicycle, I

10:27:26 think this should continue no matter who wins the

10:27:30 election, to continue to be a priority.




10:27:32 One thing that I have noticed when I have traveled

10:27:34 around to other cities is that this really is a quality

10:27:39 of life issue.

10:27:40 When I go to a place like Austin, Texas or even larger

10:27:43 cities like New York and San Francisco, which despite

10:27:48 their being big cities with lots of automobiles, they

10:27:50 are actually much safer to bike in those cities,

10:27:54 because there's an emphasis on that.

10:27:55 You see, a greater emphasis on quality of life and see

10:28:01 more vibrant and thriving communities when you have

10:28:03 options for transportation for people.

10:28:06 And it creates a community, and it's a really good

10:28:09 thing.

10:28:10 And so I'm happy that the council is doing this.

10:28:12 I will personally take it upon myself to invite you to

10:28:16 some of the things that we are talking about with

10:28:17 livability and greenways project, and I encourage this

10:28:21 dialogue to continue.

10:28:21 Thank you very much.

10:28:22 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you very much.

10:28:24 The clerk has asked those who have spoken already and

10:28:28 are going to be speaking if you will sign the sign-in




10:28:30 sheet, please, on your way out the door.

10:28:33 Thank you very much.

10:28:34 Next speaker.

10:28:34 >> My name is Daniel Gamenaur.

10:28:37 I live in Seminole Heights.

10:28:38 I'm a cyclist.

10:28:40 I cycle all around town for fun, go to events, even

10:28:44 ride a BMX bike.

10:28:48 Every time I see a bicycle I am no longer despair for

10:28:51 the future of the human race.

10:28:53 H.G. Wells.

10:28:55 You don't understand the benefits of making a bicycle

10:28:59 safe.

10:28:59 Curtis Hixon park, for example.

10:29:01 You can get down but can't find a place to park to

10:29:03 enjoy the park.

10:29:04 There's a lot of destinations in this town that you can

10:29:07 take a bike to and enjoy it.

10:29:09 I really appreciate what the officer said.

10:29:11 I think that's a great idea putting stickers on the

10:29:13 cars.

10:29:14 Education is the key.




10:29:16 You have to educate everybody.

10:29:18 I don't know, I think the Florida statute, in a one

10:29:25 knows what that is.

10:29:26 No one understands a bicycle, how much room we are

10:29:28 allowed to have on the sideline.

10:29:31 The right turn lane is another great idea.

10:29:35 I can't tell you how many times a car has sideswiped me

10:29:39 physically.

10:29:40 I'm a pretty good cyclist so I know how to brace for it

10:29:43 and take the impact.

10:29:44 But it happens all the time.

10:29:46 People are ignorant.

10:29:47 They don't know.

10:29:48 They think they own the road.

10:29:49 They don't understand the bicycle is a vehicle.

10:29:51 And it's simply education.

10:29:54 Simply education.

10:29:54 It's all it is.

10:29:57 And learning to share the road.

10:29:59 Thank you for your time.

10:30:00 And I look forward to seeing Tampa become a bicycle

10:30:03 city.




10:30:04 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you.

10:30:04 Next speaker.

10:30:09 >> Chip Commis.

10:30:12 I think there's a reason to pursue the ideas that have

10:30:15 been discussed today beyond safety.

10:30:18 And I think we are going to see a developing trend

10:30:21 within the next ten years, that cities and communities,

10:30:26 that hits possible to live without a car, are going to

10:30:29 be the most thriving and desirable places to live.

10:30:32 Bicyclling, whether it's a means of getting to your

10:30:37 destination or just getting to the nearest transit

10:30:39 stop, is going to be a key component of living

10:30:42 car-free.

10:30:44 Next to walking, biking is the most sustainable, maybe

10:30:48 the only other sustainable form of transportation that

10:30:51 we have.

10:30:52 And at some point we are going to need to do things in

10:30:56 a lot more sustainable manner.

10:30:58 You think we have reached that point.

10:30:59 A lot of people that have been riding for the last 5,

10:31:02 10, 15 years on Tampa streets see this workshop as a

10:31:05 sign of progress, even though it probably should have




10:31:08 been happening five or ten or 15 years ago.

10:31:11 But if we put enough priority, if you put enough

10:31:14 priority on bicycle facilities, we can make up for lost

10:31:18 time, and maybe we can be one of those communities in

10:31:22 ten years that is thriving and desirable because you

10:31:24 can live there car-free.

10:31:26 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you very much.

10:31:30 Then that will conclude the workshop then on the

10:31:35 bicycle safety action plan.

10:31:36 We will move to our next workshop which is the women an

10:31:40 minority business enterprise report.

10:31:51 Greg Hart is here for that.

10:31:53 >> Good morning, Chairman Scott, members of City

10:31:57 Council.

10:31:58 Gregory Hart, manager, minority business and small

10:32:02 business development office.

10:32:04 This morning I have a PowerPoint report on the city's

10:32:08 equal business opportunity program.

10:32:13 Before I get into the text of the PowerPoint, I would

10:32:19 like to acknowledge your equal business opportunity

10:32:22 advisory committee.

10:32:26 A couple of the members were here earlier.




10:32:28 I think they had to leave.

10:32:30 The vice chairman Cathy Byrd was going to bring some

10:32:36 conclusions at the conclusion of my report.

10:32:39 No, she's still here.

10:32:40 Maybe she can remain here.

10:32:41 So at the end of my report, if you would allow some

10:32:44 time for them to have comment.

10:32:45 By the way, the committee, as you know, is a 16-member

10:32:49 committee, well representative of the community, very

10:32:51 diverse, and we have met with them throughout the

10:32:54 course of the year, and they provided some valuable

10:32:57 input and opinions and information about the city's

10:33:02 program.

10:33:04 For introductory purposes, the city policy requires

10:33:09 developing reports that measure availability and

10:33:11 utilization of certified small local businesses and

10:33:15 women and minority business vendors on the basis of all

10:33:19 the categories, all contract awards and actual dollars

10:33:22 paid.

10:33:23 In the context of my presentation, when I refer to

10:33:26 utilization, I'm referring to actual payments being

10:33:27 made -- and when I refer to availability I am referring




10:33:33 to all companies in the marketplace that have an

10:33:37 interest in bidding on city contracts, that are rid,

10:33:42 willing and able to do so.

10:33:44 This is our third report under the new guidelines and

10:33:46 methodology established by city ordinance.

10:33:49 Eights very important milestone.

10:33:51 Next year we'll have four years, and we'll have some

10:33:54 new data to apply to this analysis.

10:33:57 I am going to provide you with a fiscal year 2010

10:34:02 snapshot of utilization paintings but more importantly

10:34:05 I am going to spend more time on the main focus which

10:34:07 is the three-year cumulative analysis.

10:34:13 This slide illustrates our data collection process

10:34:17 which we term diversity management information system,

10:34:23 DMI.

10:34:24 Our office collects, compiles all activity that occurs

10:34:28 throughout the city.

10:34:28 That includes drawing information from our financial

10:34:31 system, our purchasing system, people soft, you name

10:34:37 it, we are collecting and drawing data from all sources

10:34:40 of information within city government.

10:34:43 That information is filtered into the five industry




10:34:48 categories of work.

10:34:49 And from there, we evaluate availability and

10:34:52 utilization outcomes.

10:34:54 We do that looking at well over 180 reports that we

10:35:00 analyze.

10:35:01 The report data elements include all competitively bid

10:35:06 procurement separated into four utilization areas.

10:35:09 We look at prime and subcontracting that occurs for

10:35:12 small local businesses and women-minority businesses.

10:35:16 Subcontracts and prime contracts.

10:35:20 Each utilization area is x-rayed of the five industry

10:35:23 categories, as was illustrated in those four barrels on

10:35:28 the previous page.

10:35:28 That's construction, construction-related, professional

10:35:31 services, non-professional services, and goods.

10:35:35 Prime contract data is separated by two threshold.

10:35:41 We evaluate all prime contracts.

10:35:43 In addition we evaluate all prime contracts at $500,000

10:35:47 and below.

10:35:49 We also look at all prime contracts at $25,000 and

10:35:53 below.

10:35:54 And we look at all SB contract dollars.




10:35:58 Now the significance of these threshold is that 96% of

10:36:02 all city contracts awarded have a value at $500,000 and

10:36:10 below.

10:36:11 And of the $500,000 contract activity, 85% of those

10:36:19 contracts actually have a value of $25,000 and below.

10:36:23 So the majority of city contracts are small.

10:36:27 And then of course low at all subcontract dollars.

10:36:35 I am going to get into the key summaries, a snapshot of

10:36:41 2010 and the three-year cumulative.

10:36:44 But let me give you some highlights.

10:36:46 There are some stark economic factors regarding city

10:36:49 contracting.

10:36:50 For example, in fiscal year 2010, the city awarded 31%

10:36:56 fewer contracts than the previous year.

10:37:01 In 2009 the city awarded approximately 2200 contracts.

10:37:08 During fiscal 2010 that number was 1600.

10:37:11 31% reduction.

10:37:12 And the number of contracts awarded.

10:37:15 Stated in terms of the dollar value of contracts, in

10:37:19 2010, the value of contracts went down 192% over the

10:37:25 previous year.

10:37:27 In 2009 the value of contracts awarded by the city was




10:37:31 approximately $142 million.

10:37:35 In 2010, the value of contracts that we awarded was 40

10:37:40 million.

10:37:42 And lastly in terms of payment -- I just spoke about

10:37:45 award.

10:37:45 Let's talk briefly about payments that were made.

10:37:48 Payments to primes was down 287%.

10:37:56 In 2009, actual payments that went into the pockets of

10:38:00 our contractors amounted to 67 million.

10:38:04 In 2010, that was 17 million.

10:38:08 In terms of payments that went to subs, it's down 100

10:38:11 percent over the previous year.

10:38:14 In 2009, payments that actually fell into the pockets

10:38:19 of our subcontractors amounted to 57 million.

10:38:22 In 2010, it's 28 million.

10:38:25 So I just want just wanted to kind of paint a little

10:38:27 picture of what's been going on.

10:38:29 And also the importance of not getting too, I guess,

10:38:35 overly focused on year to year data, because things

10:38:39 changed very drastically and dramatically from year to

10:38:42 year, based on the number of contracts and the value of

10:38:44 contracts and other factors.




10:38:46 So the important thing is we want to look at the

10:38:49 cumulative years when we look at utilization.

10:38:55 Having said that, the small local business prime

10:38:59 contract activity in 2010, women and minority firms who

10:39:03 were SLBE certified received 31% of all payments to

10:39:10 SLBEs.

10:39:11 This indicates that our women-minority business

10:39:14 inclusion has been successful under the SLBE program.

10:39:18 Looking at the three-year cumulative results, WMBEs

10:39:26 received 60% of all payments that were made to SLBE

10:39:31 firms.

10:39:32 Cumulative years indicate that the SLBE program

10:39:36 effectively reflects activities for dual certified

10:39:42 MBEs, so we were very getting firms that are eligible

10:39:48 certified.

10:39:49 Women and minority businesses are small.

10:39:55 In the subcontract arena, just a snapshot of 2010.

10:40:00 WMBEs represented 70% of all payments made to SLBE

10:40:05 subcontractors.

10:40:06 Utilization remained fairly constant during 2010.

10:40:10 The three-year cumulative of WMBE firms received 81% of

10:40:17 all payments made to SLBE subcontractors.




10:40:23 Here again, the WMBEs are well represented in the

10:40:27 SLBE program.

10:40:32 I am going to speak now about prime contracting.

10:40:35 Looking at 2010, our WMBEs received 14% of all

10:40:42 payments across all five industry categories, all

10:40:47 dollars

10:40:49 The tree-year cumulative, WMBE firms represented 5% of

10:40:56 all payments made understood the prime award.

10:41:03 That's across all five industry categories, all

10:41:06 dollars.

10:41:09 More importantly, looking at the single year for WMBE

10:41:15 prime participation at the 500,000 and below threshold

10:41:20 are women and minority firms received 13% of all

10:41:23 payments made in that year.

10:41:26 The three-year result, that's WMBE prime participation

10:41:33 at the 500,000 and below threshold, keeping in mind 97%

10:41:38 of our contracts fall within this threshold, women and

10:41:41 minority firms received 12% of all payments made.

10:41:44 Utilization has been fairly constant.

10:41:47 Even in this volatile marketplace and economy.

10:41:54 Looking at the $25,000 and below category, in 2010, our

10:41:59 WMBEs received 7% of all payments.




10:42:04 Of course, there were fewer contracts awarded in 2010.

10:42:07 Nonetheless, utilization is fairly consistent among our

10:42:11 ethnic and small minority businesses.

10:42:15 The three-year cumulative results, very little has

10:42:20 changed.

10:42:21 WMBEs received 10% of all payments at the $25,000 or

10:42:26 less threshold.

10:42:33 Focusing on subcontract activity for the one-year,

10:42:36 2010, women minority firms received 18% of all

10:42:42 subcontract payments across all five industry

10:42:45 categories.

10:42:48 Overall, our WMBE subcontract utilization is slightly

10:42:53 up.

10:42:55 But let's look at the three-year cumulative.

10:43:00 Women and minority firms received 18% of all payments

10:43:03 made for subcontract participation.

10:43:07 So WMBE participation is fairly consistent.

10:43:18 We are now going to talk about our overall utilization

10:43:21 results and give you some indication of where apparent

10:43:29 disparity may be occurring.

10:43:31 And I might note that you will recall that the

10:43:35 disparity analysis is applying our 2006 study available




10:43:40 data.

10:43:43 Now, WMBE utilization, whenever it's below the standard

10:43:49 target threshold, that's when we assume that there

10:43:53 might be some disparity.

10:43:54 So in following charts we are going to look at the

10:43:58 statistics and where we have utilization that falls

10:44:01 below the availability percentage target or standard,

10:44:07 that's where we have apparent disparity based on the

10:44:11 2006 availability data.

10:44:13 In this particular chart for contracts, $500,000 or

10:44:17 less, the yellow highlighted boxes indicate where we

10:44:24 have parity or overutilization.

10:44:27 So we can see here that in construction we have one of

10:44:31 our ethnic minority groups, meeting the threshold, and

10:44:37 also non-professional services.

10:44:40 For contracts, $25,000 or less, here again, the yellow

10:44:45 shaded boxes indicate where there is utilization that

10:44:53 is meeting the target.

10:44:56 By the way, very little has changed from our two-year

10:45:01 cumulative report, last year and this three-year.

10:45:05 You take cumulative years.

10:45:07 You now analyze that.




10:45:09 It's a better indication of trend as opposed to just

10:45:12 looking one year to the next.

10:45:16 In the subcontract category, where I had mentioned

10:45:20 there was a slight bump and we have been consistently

10:45:23 strong here, again, the yellow shaded boxes indicate

10:45:29 where utilization has met the percentage target or

10:45:31 standard.

10:45:34 In the following two or three slides, I'm summarizing

10:45:39 for you what those previous charts and statistics

10:45:43 actually conclude.

10:45:46 In here at the prime contract spot, 500 that you or

10:45:49 less, Hispanic businesses met the target in

10:45:54 nonprofessional services, and our Asian businesses met

10:45:57 the target in construction.

10:45:58 At that category of $25,000 or less, we can see that

10:46:04 our Hispanic businesses, Caucasian female businesses

10:46:09 are meeting that in construction related and in goods,

10:46:13 our Hispanic businesses are meeting that target.

10:46:17 Looking at the subcontract utilization, across the

10:46:23 board, targets are being met by all of our ethnic

10:46:28 minority and women-owned businesses in the respective

10:46:32 categories as depicted here in the summary.




10:46:39 Transit utilization in one of our delivery systems, the

10:46:46 WMBE utilization brought forth 30% participation

10:46:51 throughout our program.

10:47:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: When you put the JOCS at 30%

10:47:09 utilization, while true it's misleading because if you

10:47:11 didn't have JOCS you would still have the subcontract

10:47:16 which would be the same result.

10:47:17 >> Without JOCS we would have subcontract participation

10:47:24 but perhaps not at the same degree.

10:47:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Well, that's an unknown factor,

10:47:30 though.

10:47:32 Am I correct or incorrect?

10:47:34 >> Well, if we didn't, in the JOC program, one of the

10:47:40 performance conditions is that they include WMBE

10:47:45 subcontracting.

10:47:46 If we didn't have JOC, and those contracts were let,

10:47:51 use some of the other delivery systems, if those

10:47:54 contracts had significant subcontract elements, we

10:47:58 would apply those.

10:48:02 The extent to which they would be successful, we would

10:48:04 get some.

10:48:04 I don't know if it would be to the same extent as we




10:48:07 have received under JOCS, because it's incorporated as

10:48:11 part of the contract.

10:48:12 >> But it is possible that since JOCS, the way it was

10:48:17 programmed, they got the list of contractors from the

10:48:20 city, I would assume, making an assumption on my part,

10:48:23 that the rules and regulations that apply to them would

10:48:26 certainly apply to the city.

10:48:28 Therefore, the equation and methodology of which those

10:48:31 contractors would be submitted and application to the

10:48:34 city for participation would be equal or less if not

10:48:39 greater than.

10:48:39 >> All contracts would have access to the same

10:48:42 information that is available.

10:48:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.

10:48:46 >>> In this slide, I'm making some recommendations that

10:48:50 perhaps would assist us in providing additional

10:48:56 opportunities at the prime level for our SLBEs who

10:49:02 again are WMBEs.

10:49:04 In our sheltered market program we are able to allow,

10:49:07 depending upon the value of the contract, to have those

10:49:11 SLBE primes compete within their peer group.

10:49:15 Currently that threshold is 200,000.




10:49:17 And I'm recommending that we consider raising that

10:49:21 threshold for sheltered market from 200,000 to 300,000.

10:49:26 That may in fact increase the number of prime contracts

10:49:29 for SLBEs including dual certified WMBEs.

10:49:35 Prime participation is stagnant.

10:49:37 And the disparity study indicated that was a challenge,

10:49:41 and this is one way that we might be able to address

10:49:45 even further.

10:49:47 In addition, I'm looking at considering and

10:49:50 recommending that we apply subcontract goal setting to

10:49:54 sheltered market projects that lend themselves to

10:49:59 subcontract goals.

10:50:01 If we in fact do raise the threshold to 300,000, this

10:50:04 may be in fact one or two projects that fall understood

10:50:08 that threshold that require subcontract elements, and

10:50:13 if our SLBEs or WMBEs are going to be prime

10:50:19 contractors we need to encourage them if they need subs

10:50:22 to look at getting quotes from our SLBE and WMBE sites?

10:50:27 So that's been our intent there.

10:50:28 >>MARY MULHERN: I'm wondering why don't you raise that

10:50:31 to 500,000, since it's 500,000 was the level at which

10:50:35 you said most contracts fall under?




10:50:38 >> Well, again, there aren't as many contracts that

10:50:44 WMBEs or SLBes are going to bid.

10:50:49 We know factually that the 200,000 has worked well.

10:50:53 So incrementally we want to look at 300,000.

10:50:57 If in fact we think we can do a little more, we can

10:51:00 consider that.

10:51:01 >> You can start by raising it to 300, if that makes a

10:51:06 difference.

10:51:09 I want to ask you this because this is based on what

10:51:11 you told us at the beginning about the total dollar

10:51:14 amount of contracts for 2010 you said was 48 million.

10:51:19 Is that right?

10:51:21 >> That's correct.

10:51:21 Approximately.

10:51:22 >> When you talk about percentages of contracts, you

10:51:28 are talking about the number of contracts?

10:51:30 Or are you talking about the dollar?

10:51:34 When you are doing that average, are you using the

10:51:37 dollar amount?

10:51:37 >> I'm doing both.

10:51:39 In the 48 million that was awarded in 2010, I stated

10:51:44 that over 2009 there was a 31% reduction in the number




10:51:50 of contracts awarded.

10:51:51 >> Right.

10:51:52 So what was the reduction in dollar amount?

10:51:56 >> The dollar value in those contracts has declined

10:52:01 192%.

10:52:03 So in 2010, the value of contracts that were awarded

10:52:09 was approximately $48 million.

10:52:13 In 2009 the value of the contracts that we awarded

10:52:17 amounted to approximately $142 million.

10:52:22 >> I understand what you are saying.

10:52:24 That's the total dollar amount of contracts awarded.

10:52:27 Period.

10:52:28 In the city.

10:52:29 What I am trying to understand is when you talk about

10:52:34 the percentage that are covered in the SLBE and the

10:52:44 WMBE -- and we can talk about the fact that most

10:52:48 contracts are under that 500,000, and then under

10:52:57 25,000, that's the number of contracts.

10:53:00 That's not in the dollar amounts, right?

10:53:05 >> That is the dollar amount.

10:53:07 The dollar value.

10:53:09 I stated that 96% of all city contracts have a value at




10:53:17 or below 500,000, I am referring to the dollar value.

10:53:22 >> So 96% for 2010 of that 48 million, $48 million,

10:53:35 right?

10:53:36 >> Let me see if I can't restate it.

10:53:39 >> No, let me finish asking the question.

10:53:42 48 million spent on contracts.

10:53:44 What was the dollar amount of those contracts that were

10:53:50 under?

10:53:51 The 96%, does that mean 96% of 48 million?

10:53:56 Or 96% of the number of contracts?

10:53:58 >> Okay.

10:54:01 I have that information.

10:54:02 And I can get back to you and provide --

10:54:05 >> No, you should know that information.

10:54:07 That's not a tough question.

10:54:08 It's either yes or no.

10:54:09 It's the dollar amount or it's the number of contracts.

10:54:12 The 96%.

10:54:13 >> The 96% is a general statement about the type of

10:54:19 contracts which the city let's.

10:54:22 >> You are not answering my question.

10:54:24 >> Okay.




10:54:24 >> This is a simple math --

10:54:27 >> Do you have something?

10:54:29 >> You need to come to the mike.

10:54:30 >> Joe Canarre, City of Tampa minority business

10:54:34 development.

10:54:34 Yes, it is.

10:54:35 When we talk about the total dollars, that percentage

10:54:37 relates back to the contract, number of contracts under

10:54:41 that threshold.

10:54:43 So we are talking about direct relationship of the

10:54:46 total dollars and the total contracts that were awarded

10:54:50 for that value.

10:54:50 >> So here is what you can tell me then.

10:54:54 If I did the math, 96% of 48 million, which would be

10:54:58 about, what, 46%, 46 million, is that how much -- is

10:55:07 that the dollar amount, approximately?

10:55:09 >> It's approximately that.

10:55:11 The vast majority -- what we are saying here is this.

10:55:14 The city's general procurement is very low in contract

10:55:17 values overall.

10:55:18 So when we look at capacity of our women and minority

10:55:22 companies, it's a non-issue.




10:55:25 Companies should be able to do contracts within those

10:55:28 values.

10:55:28 That's what we are trying to illustrate with that

10:55:29 threshold.

10:55:30 >> Okay.

10:55:32 That's what I wanted to know.

10:55:34 It helps.

10:55:36 You know, it's even math that I can do.

10:55:40 >> It's even more significant than that.

10:55:42 The one year is just a very small snapshot, looking at

10:55:44 the cumulative that knock it is peaks and evaluation of

10:55:50 those.

10:55:51 >> I am just using that as an example.

10:55:53 We can look at the three-year totals, too.

10:55:55 >> The analysis is looking at your percentages.

10:55:58 It's going to relate to the dollar value that we are

10:56:00 associating with.

10:56:01 But there's two percentages which can get confusing.

10:56:04 Percent of contracts and percent of dollars related

10:56:07 to --

10:56:07 >> Right, and I would like to see that because that

10:56:10 doesn't sound like a --




10:56:13 >> We can give that you information anyway you wanted

10:56:18 as long as we get the request.

10:56:18 >> This is the request.

10:56:19 You understand the request?

10:56:20 >> No, let's make it clear so he can write it down.

10:56:23 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.

10:56:28 For these total amounts, the 48 million in contracts

10:56:34 awarded in 2010, and then the one 42 million that Mr.

10:56:41 Hart mentioned for 2009 or 2008, whichever.

10:56:45 >> 2009.

10:56:45 >>MARY MULHERN: Why don't do you the three years that

10:56:50 this report applies to.

10:56:52 I would like to see the dollar amount of contracts

10:56:54 awarded by the city, the dollar amount of contracts

10:57:01 that were under $500,000, the dollar amount of

10:57:07 contracts that were under $25,000 for each of those

10:57:11 years.

10:57:11 >> Okay.

10:57:12 Now the supplemental report has some of that data.

10:57:14 You realize that the supplemental has the values of

10:57:17 contracts that were greater than 500.

10:57:20 So when we report our value here, the supplemental




10:57:23 report also gives that information.

10:57:27 So in the supplemental package, we have that there.

10:57:30 >> Right.

10:57:31 But this is the big picture and this is the first thing

10:57:33 that Mr. Hart told us.

10:57:35 So I would like to see that on one sheet.

10:57:37 >> Okay.

10:57:38 >> Let me extract that information, compiled to one

10:57:42 sheet.

10:57:43 I think you make a very good point, and that is we have

10:57:46 to take each year and see what contracts fell within

10:57:50 those thresholds.

10:57:51 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Well, that was the question I raised

10:57:55 yesterday in my office.

10:57:56 You remember I asked for.

10:57:57 That you told me it would just be basically the

10:57:59 cumulative.

10:58:00 Could you have the information.

10:58:02 >> That's correct.

10:58:03 >> But when I raised that same question.

10:58:05 >>MARY MULHERN: And I just think when you talk about

10:58:11 percentages of contracts, that's pretty important




10:58:12 whether you are talking about the number of contracts

10:58:13 or the dollar amounts of the total contracts.

10:58:19 That's way need to see.

10:58:20 >> We can compile it.

10:58:22 We have that information.

10:58:23 Again we look over 180 reports.

10:58:26 And then we compile that information in accumulative

10:58:30 fashion.

10:58:30 But we have all the details that goes deep, and as far

10:58:33 as you like.

10:58:34 We can get that for you.

10:58:35 >> I am looking at totals, not the details.

10:58:37 >>JOSEPH P. CAETANO: Mr. Hart, your program deals

10:58:41 specifically with minorities, correct?

10:58:47 With women?

10:58:48 >> We address ethnic minorities, women, and the ethnic

10:58:53 minority groups, as well as small local businesses who

10:58:57 meet the criteria.

10:58:58 Just race and gender neutral.

10:59:00 We look at all small businesses and identify those

10:59:02 which are women owned and ethnic minority.

10:59:05 We look at all small businesses.




10:59:06 >> So if they are not a minority, you still cater to

10:59:10 them?

10:59:10 >> Yes.

10:59:11 If they meet the small local business enterprise

10:59:14 criteria to be designated as such.

10:59:16 >> Okay, thank you.

10:59:17 >>THOMAS SCOTT: You have to understand, you actually

10:59:22 have a small business ordinance really.

10:59:25 I understand -- when does the trigger kick in?

10:59:31 That's from legal.

10:59:32 Because when you look at this, you have a three-year

10:59:34 period, according to the Supreme Court, you have got to

10:59:38 have a window of three to five, is that right?

10:59:41 >> Yes, sir.

10:59:42 >>THOMAS SCOTT: We have three years of data.

10:59:43 Based on that, on page 21, I think you may have covered

10:59:49 this with council.

10:59:49 If you look at each of those categories, first off you

10:59:53 look at the WMBE prime utilization category, 500,000 or

10:59:59 less, you have your targets that are set there, right?

11:00:03 >> Correct.

11:00:08 >> If you look at page 21 and construction, only one




11:00:12 group category, you are able to reach or excel.

11:00:18 The Asian-American.

11:00:19 And then you go down, drop down to Hispanic, and

11:00:23 non-professional services.

11:00:24 You exceeded that in utilization of those contracts.

11:00:28 Is that right?

11:00:29 >> Yes.

11:00:29 >> So everything we have done on that category, you

11:00:32 only have two categories, that met the requirements.

11:00:37 Is that right?

11:00:39 The target, right?

11:00:40 They exceeded the target.

11:00:42 Okay.

11:00:43 Go to the next page.

11:00:44 Page 22.

11:00:45 Same thing, contracts of 25,000 or less.

11:00:50 You see African-American did not reach any goal or any

11:00:53 target.

11:00:53 Right?

11:00:57 Page 22.

11:00:57 Page 22.

11:00:59 Are you all following me, council?




11:01:01 Page 22.

11:01:01 >> We are.

11:01:05 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Look across.

11:01:05 25,000 or less contract.

11:01:07 African-American did not meet the target

11:01:10 Asian-American did not meet the target.

11:01:12 Hispanic American met the category in

11:01:15 construction-related services, they exceeded, as well

11:01:18 as in goods.

11:01:19 And then Caucasian females in construction related.

11:01:23 >> My people are doing that.

11:01:27 >>THOMAS SCOTT: So you look at the categories.

11:01:31 And I understand what Mr. Harvey said that the city

11:01:35 didn't give out a lot of contracts over the last couple

11:01:37 of years, right?

11:01:39 Whatever contract went out we have not met the target,

11:01:41 only in those categories where are we exceeded.

11:01:44 Go over now to the WMBE subcontract utilization you

11:01:49 find African-American in the non-professional services.

11:01:53 Asian Americans met it in the construction service

11:01:56 area.

11:01:57 Hispanics did extremely well on this sheet here.




11:02:03 They exceeded.

11:02:04 And looked like about three categories there.

11:02:06 Okay.

11:02:09 Caucasian female did it well in one category, okay?

11:02:12 So if you look at that, you will see that we are still

11:02:17 not meeting the target in some of these categories, and

11:02:20 African-American only met in the one category, I

11:02:22 believe.

11:02:22 So my question is, according to the ordinance, this is

11:02:26 a legal question, when does it trigger -- when do the

11:02:30 triggers kick in?

11:02:31 >> And before legal comments, let me just say that the

11:02:37 underutilization in the category, we acknowledge that.

11:02:40 It's been stagnant.

11:02:41 That has been identified in the study in 2006.

11:02:44 We know that.

11:02:44 And that's for that reason the recommendations I spoke

11:02:48 to is to try to stem some of that.

11:02:50 However, and legal will speak to this, be mindful that

11:02:53 you are looking at analysis of utilization based on

11:02:58 availability that is using the 2006 study data on

11:03:04 availability.




11:03:07 We are required to collect a unit of three to five

11:03:13 years of availability data to apply to the calculation.

11:03:17 It's almost like taking -- this might be a bad analogy,

11:03:21 but taking year 2000 census data, and an urban planner

11:03:27 or transportation planner using that data to make

11:03:30 policy decisions in 2010.

11:03:32 >>THOMAS SCOTT: I understand that.

11:03:37 But you the report was done in 2006.

11:03:43 We have no control of that.

11:03:45 And I recognize what you are saying.

11:03:47 But we have to use what's been outlined by law --

11:03:50 >> That's what we are doing.

11:03:52 >>THOMAS SCOTT: -- by law, and what we have.

11:03:54 That's the issue.

11:03:55 When this program was initially set up we were

11:03:57 following the recommendations pretty much of legal,

11:04:00 Dallas Smith who -- Darrell Smith, who was city

11:04:05 attorney at that time, and I challenged a lot of the

11:04:06 things, and brought the lady in from Chicago, and said,

11:04:10 well, part of the problem is this.

11:04:14 Part of the problem was the static but nevertheless we

11:04:19 moved forward with that.




11:04:20 And we have a trigger.

11:04:22 So my question to legal is, at what point does this

11:04:25 trigger kick in?

11:04:28 >> Hargrett, legal.

11:04:31 The trigger you are speaking about is not necessarily

11:04:33 an objective one.

11:04:34 It is somewhat subjective.

11:04:35 And the requirement is for three to five years of

11:04:37 information.

11:04:39 At this point we have three years.

11:04:41 But in looking at the report, wave to take into account

11:04:45 the fact that this past year is a bit of an anomaly

11:04:50 because of the economy.

11:04:51 So throws a lot more to assessing whether or not the

11:04:54 trigger should actually be made, and that's why you are

11:04:57 receiving the recommendation that you are receiving.

11:05:00 The law does indicate that we need to play all race

11:05:05 neutral measures that we can, to the extent that they

11:05:07 are successful.

11:05:08 We need to extract those types of programs before we

11:05:11 implement race conscious.

11:05:14 And this afternoon way a government that does that will




11:05:17 have a better opportunity to defend itself in case

11:05:19 actually is challenged.

11:05:21 Then you can say wave done this, we have done that.

11:05:24 And wave done everything that is within our ability.

11:05:28 >>THOMAS SCOTT: So then basically again you said this

11:05:30 past year was an anomaly.

11:05:32 What if the trend continues for next year?

11:05:36 >> That is the reason why Joe Cardillo mentioned, and

11:05:45 at this point the trend is that the SLBE program is

11:05:49 effective, and that's why the recommendation you see is

11:05:53 to increase the 200,000 cap for sheltered market

11:05:57 contracts, to the 300,000 level.

11:06:01 So we are still in the process of trying to extract as

11:06:04 much success as we can from race-neutral measures.

11:06:10 >>MARY MULHERN: I had another request from you, and I

11:06:17 know you mentioned this before, but I don't know if it

11:06:19 was followed up on.

11:06:22 What is the definition of SLBE that you are using?

11:06:28 What is the definition of that?

11:06:31 I know it's small local business enter praise means.

11:06:34 I want to know the criteria are for fitting into that

11:06:39 category.




11:06:39 >> To be eligible and recognized as an SLBE the owner

11:06:47 of that company must be a resident of the State of

11:06:49 Florida, the business that that individual owns and

11:06:56 operates must be domiciled in a five-county market

11:07:00 area.

11:07:00 Hillsborough, Pinellas, Manatee, Pasco, and Polk.

11:07:05 >> Does that mean headquarters or just an office?

11:07:10 >> Yes.

11:07:11 Their main business.

11:07:12 >>> The headquarters.

11:07:14 Quay okay.

11:07:15 >> And they must have fewer than 25 full-time

11:07:21 employees, and their gross receipts or gross sales

11:07:25 cannot exceed $2 million averaged over a three-year

11:07:28 period.

11:07:30 That is the criteria.

11:07:32 And that is race and gender neutral.

11:07:34 >> Cannot exceed --

11:07:36 >> 2 million in gross receipts, gross sales, averaged

11:07:39 over a three-year period.

11:07:41 >> So per-year averaged over three years?

11:07:44 >> Yes.




11:07:44 >> Thank you.

11:07:45 >> Any other questions?

11:07:48 Councilman Stokes.

11:07:51 >>CURTIS STOKES: Mr. Hart, on page 21 of the slide

11:07:54 presentation, WMBE prime utilization, looking at some

11:08:06 of the concerns that Chairman Scott mentioned, the

11:08:09 professional services, non-professional services, and

11:08:11 some of the categories that did not make the

11:08:14 availability percentage target, I point out the Asian

11:08:23 Americans 2.55, in the WMBE target.

11:08:28 In the database, the city's database, who and what

11:08:33 represents that population?

11:08:34 Or is there an opportunity to give contracts to the

11:08:42 population --

11:08:43 >> Can you restate that?

11:08:45 >> Utilization, capacity tissue issue, 4.8, and

11:08:52 professional services, attorneys, Asian Americans,

11:08:55 2.55, Hispanics 10.63 and professional services,

11:09:01 looking at the utilization percentage, .05, .76 and

11:09:08 Native Americans, the capacity issue, is there a

11:09:14 capacity issue among those categories that prohibit

11:09:16 them from getting those contracts, or is it not the




11:09:21 database?

11:09:21 >> Our information indicates there's not a capacity

11:09:24 issue.

11:09:29 Not a capacity issue.

11:09:30 >> Oftentimes it's what type of contract is it that the

11:09:40 city is awarding.

11:09:46 If the vendor proposes on it, there are a number of

11:09:48 variables.

11:09:49 But to answer capacity --

11:09:51 >> So in areas of professional services, what makes

11:09:53 up -- I'm not sure what the dollar amount is that was

11:09:58 spent on professional services over the this time

11:10:00 period.

11:10:03 What data, the bulk of that, where one category

11:10:05 received 97.4% and the others probably 1.5% of total

11:10:11 usage.

11:10:12 >> I could definitely go back and give you the

11:10:14 specifics.

11:10:14 But what contracts are in there, and who received it,

11:10:18 the type of contract was awarded that fell within that

11:10:21 category.

11:10:23 If that helps.




11:10:25 I also have some information on some of our businesses,

11:10:29 who represent these figures in here, by company name

11:10:32 and ethnicity, which I think is something that some of

11:10:35 you have expressed an interest in.

11:10:36 >> Because the numbers are trending the 500,000 or less

11:10:41 and the 25,000 or less, a lot of the underrepresented

11:10:45 groups are in professional services are not receiving a

11:10:53 tremendous amount of work compared to the other

11:10:55 categories.

11:11:04 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Does this not depend on if the small

11:11:06 business responded to the contract that was put out?

11:11:15 >> Yes.

11:11:16 Without a doubt that's one of the variables I'm

11:11:18 referring to.

11:11:23 Was the available firm free to propose a bid on it?

11:11:29 If they did, were they competitive?

11:11:30 There are a number of variables.

11:11:32 And that's one of them, certainly.

11:11:34 >> A member of the committee needs to leave.

11:11:44 >> Do we need to take any actions on the

11:11:47 recommendations you recommended to us?

11:11:48 >> No, sir.




11:11:49 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Don't need to take any action on

11:11:50 those?

11:11:51 >> Not to my knowledge, no, sir.

11:11:57 >>CURTIS STOKES: The recommendations apply -- can you

11:12:04 expound on that, please.

11:12:05 >> Right now any contract that's proposed to be let,

11:12:08 our office looks at the subcontract elements and

11:12:11 establishes SLBE subcontract goal.

11:12:14 Under the shelter market program because the contracts

11:12:16 have been small, we don't typically administratively

11:12:20 look at them for setting subcontract goals on that

11:12:24 SLBE.

11:12:26 If in fact we raise the threshold, there may be on

11:12:29 occasion an opportunity to incorporate and SLBE

11:12:33 subcontract goal on that shelter market, so that SLBE

11:12:37 or WMBE who is performing, if they have a need for

11:12:41 subtrade, we are going to encourage em them look, at

11:12:44 your sister agencies and your brother agencies who are

11:12:47 SLBE to perform these subs.

11:12:50 That's what's indicated.

11:12:52 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay.

11:12:53 Questions by council?




11:12:57 We can hear now.

11:12:59 >> Kathryn Byrd with innovative construction, Inc., is

11:13:04 vice chair and she's needing to leave and ready to make

11:13:07 some comments.

11:13:08 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Welcome.

11:13:09 >> Thank you, council members.

11:13:10 It's a pleasure to see all of you again.

11:13:12 My name is Cathy Byrd with innovative restoration and I

11:13:15 am the vice chair of the equal business opportunity

11:13:18 advisory committee.

11:13:19 I have had the distinct pleasure of working with Mr.

11:13:21 Hart and his crew, staff, the last few months and

11:13:25 trying to review data that is available to us, and

11:13:29 determining what data is missing or what data appears

11:13:31 to be misleading.

11:13:34 I do sit on the private sector side of the equation.

11:13:38 I am a certified WMBE, a certified small local business

11:13:42 enterprise firm, and I have had the opportunity to be

11:13:47 on the potential receiving side of these contracts.

11:13:50 And based on that experience, I was delighted to have

11:13:53 the opportunity to sit on this committee because my

11:13:56 experiences are very, very different than what the data




11:13:59 that's reflecting.

11:14:01 And I would like to have the opportunity to evaluate

11:14:03 the data.

11:14:05 One of the challenges that we have had, and we are

11:14:07 overcoming those challenges, is do we have integrity in

11:14:11 the data that we do have?

11:14:14 Does it give us the whole picture?

11:14:16 Or is it such a skewed view that we could never come to

11:14:20 any actual conclusion that reflects the reality of the

11:14:22 situation be? Mr. Hart's group is now compiling data

11:14:27 that in my professional opinion has integrity to it.

11:14:31 We have not had the opportunity yet to seriously

11:14:34 evaluate that data, particularly against the community

11:14:38 demographics, because we don't have all of the data in

11:14:41 that we need.

11:14:42 So we are comparing currents data collection to

11:14:48 somewhat outdated evaluations.

11:14:51 And for that reason, I wanted to have the opportunity

11:14:55 to come and speak to you personally to let you know

11:14:58 that as committee members, we represent the community,

11:15:02 and we also represent certified businesses within that

11:15:06 community, so we had a chance to walk through the




11:15:09 process.

11:15:11 I do believe that when we get to next year, and the

11:15:15 year after that, and you start seeing -- you are going

11:15:19 to see numbers that are going to be dramatically

11:15:21 different than what you are seeing today.

11:15:22 And is there an underutilization in certain demographic

11:15:26 groups?

11:15:27 Absolutely.

11:15:28 Is there a better-than-average utilization in other

11:15:33 demographic groups?

11:15:34 I think we'll find absolutely.

11:15:36 I think we may very well actually see -- and this is

11:15:40 just my professional opinion from the private sector

11:15:42 looking in as opposed to looking out -- that we may

11:15:46 find that some of our minority groups, as we have

11:15:49 classified them, may no longer actually be minority in

11:15:53 certain categories.

11:15:54 So I'm personally very interested in seeing how the day

11:15:57 will come out.

11:15:58 And I think your conclusions by that time will probably

11:16:00 be more accurately based on the entire picture as

11:16:06 opposed to just a subset.




11:16:07 So thank you.

11:16:08 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you.

11:16:08 >> Any other questions?

11:16:12 Then we will take public comment at this time.

11:16:16 Anyone from the public wish to address council?

11:16:20 Okay.

11:16:20 Do we need to -- do you have a request made by council?

11:16:30 Do we need to make a motion for that, legal?

11:16:37 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Well, I don't know whether you set

11:16:38 the August date for the semiannual report.

11:16:41 I don't see it at the next workshop.

11:16:44 >>THOMAS SCOTT: It would have to be the fourth

11:16:47 Thursday in August, I would assume, right?

11:16:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Except for the fact under your

11:16:51 present calendar you don't have a workshop date

11:16:54 scheduled in August.

11:16:55 It could be scheduled for a regular meeting under staff

11:16:57 reports, if you wish, or you would schedule it for

11:17:00 September's workshop day.

11:17:02 There is no workshop in July either.

11:17:05 So it's either a regular meeting in August or the

11:17:07 September workshop.




11:17:08 If you wish to schedule it now anyway --

11:17:14 >> Well, what we are essentially saying fall, we'll

11:17:17 hopefully have the compilations by August.

11:17:22 >>THOMAS SCOTT: September then.

11:17:23 >>MARTIN SHELBY: September 15th workshop at

11:17:27 9 a.m.?

11:17:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I move to receive and file the

11:17:29 documents and schedule a work to shop for September

11:17:33 15th at 9 a.m.

11:17:34 >> Second.

11:17:35 >>THOMAS SCOTT: All in favor?

11:17:37 Opposes in

11:17:39 Anything else? Thank you very much.

11:17:40 Committee members as well.

11:17:42 And your office as well.

11:17:43 Okay.

11:17:47 The next workshop, council time, is an issue factor.

11:17:55 We are going to lose our quorum here in just a second.

11:17:58 We'll take up the next one.

11:17:59 And we may not have time for the remaining two.

11:18:02 We may have to continue those to next month.

11:18:06 Yes, sir?




11:18:07 >> Randy Goers.

11:18:11 I do notice that you have a number of people out there

11:18:13 for a workshop.

11:18:14 If you want to switch times and move them in front of

11:18:17 me, that would be fine.

11:18:22 I don't know how long the truck route is going to be.

11:18:26 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Five-minute presentation?

11:18:28 Okay.

11:18:28 What time do you have to leave?

11:18:31 We are not going to make it.

11:18:35 >>RANDY GOERS: Be if not I can move forward and get

11:18:41 mine done in about 15 minutes.

11:18:42 >> We have commitments all around the dais here.

11:18:45 He has to meet with the mayor.

11:18:46 She has an appointment in 15 minutes.

11:18:48 So my concern is -- and you have to leave.

11:18:53 We lose our quorum.

11:18:54 We can't -- I'm gad for 30 more minutes.

11:18:58 But we are going to lose our quorum so council can't

11:19:01 meet.

11:19:02 >>RANDY GOERS: He can move faster than the 15 if you

11:19:06 wish.




11:19:07 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay.

11:19:07 Truck route is how long?

11:19:13 Let's take five minutes, then try to squeeze it in.

11:19:16 Let's try to take the truck route.

11:19:18 >> Transportation planning.

11:19:26 I want top introduce our consultant on the truck route

11:19:29 study for us, Tyndall Oliver.

11:19:33 He's going to give a quick five-minute overview.

11:19:36 And Jean Dorzback previously gave you a briefing a few

11:19:39 weeks ago on the results of the study.

11:19:40 >>THOMAS SCOTT: You have three minutes.

11:19:45 >> Queue up the presentation.

11:19:50 The key thing here is that the truck route system was

11:19:52 adopted originally about 25 or 30 years ago.

11:19:55 It was time for a dust-off.

11:19:58 There's three major components.

11:19:59 There's an ordinance that needed to be updated.

11:20:01 There's a map that illustrates what the truck route

11:20:03 system is, which roads are on it and which are not.

11:20:06 And there's administrative aspects which deal with the

11:20:08 education, how you educate and communicate and how you

11:20:14 maintain and administrator that system.




11:20:21 Why do you have a truck route?

11:20:22 You want to minimize damage to your assets, your local

11:20:25 street system, you want the trucks on roads that can

11:20:28 handle the trucks.

11:20:29 You want to protect your neighborhoods.

11:20:31 The key thing about this ordinance is that it is not

11:20:33 intended to prohibit a truck from using any road in the

11:20:35 city to serve a site as long as that truck has a good

11:20:39 reason for being on that road.

11:20:41 You want to concentrate the truck traffic on the roads

11:20:43 that can accommodate it, so they have the best service,

11:20:48 but can deviate from it and that's okay.

11:20:52 Difficulty to enforce a truck route system simply

11:20:54 because the way it's set up now, law enforcement

11:20:58 officer has to physically be present, see the truck

11:21:01 violating a traffic control sign, and then follow him

11:21:07 through to see that he does not have a destination and

11:21:10 the primary change in the ordinance is probably two

11:21:15 things.

11:21:15 One is changing the definition of the truck.

11:21:17 Right now, it's any vehicle which is rated at 110 or

11:21:20 over, kind of hard to enforce, hard to decide if the




11:21:23 vehicle is really in the category or not.

11:21:25 It's being revised to reflect any vehicle that has

11:21:29 three axles or six tires or more.

11:21:31 A couple of exceptions, heavy pickup trucks, Ford F-350

11:21:37 is not regulated.

11:21:39 Here we government and Ford F-450 would be because it's

11:21:43 bigger than 110.

11:21:44 Panel vans would not be regulated because they use

11:21:47 local streets all the time to make deliveries, the

11:21:50 FedEx truck, UPS truck and so forth.

11:21:53 Utilization of a trailer does not make a vehicle a

11:21:56 truck.

11:21:56 If you have a vehicle that's not otherwise a truck,

11:21:58 adding a trailer to it doesn't make it a truck.

11:22:00 Just to make it simple.

11:22:04 We have looked at the maps.

11:22:06 The other major change in the truck route system is

11:22:10 changing the method of enforcement.

11:22:11 Rather than having a truck route violation as a moving

11:22:14 violation where you put points on your license and

11:22:18 create issues for truck drivers, possibly losing their

11:22:21 commercial driver's license status, Mu nice pal, civil




11:22:26 violation.

11:22:27 This will go hand in hand with another aspect I'll talk

11:22:29 about in a moment.

11:22:30 To make the whole enforcement process easier, different

11:22:36 stiffer penalties buts easier for law enforcement and

11:22:40 the judicial system to deal with it.

11:22:42 I know your staff has already gone through some of the

11:22:44 proposed route changes with you.

11:22:47 There are ten additions to the system.

11:22:49 Six deletions from the system.

11:22:50 And a lot of these are a matter of cleaning up

11:22:54 situations.

11:22:54 For example, out in Drew Park near Tampa Airport, Cargo

11:23:00 Road which replaces Westshore Boulevard, the old

11:23:03 ordinance said Westshore was a truck route.

11:23:05 We are just cleaning it up.

11:23:07 22nd street south of Adamo Drive, another situation

11:23:09 like that.

11:23:12 So I have handouts of the presentation that I can leave

11:23:17 with you as well.

11:23:20 Interbay Boulevard, one particular road of concern as

11:23:25 was MacDill Boulevard.




11:23:26 >> So those cannot be changed, is what you are saying?

11:23:28 >> They will not be changed.

11:23:30 They could be changed, but there are good reasons why

11:23:34 they need to stay on the system.

11:23:36 One of the key things that and probably one of the most

11:23:38 important things that comes out of this is right now in

11:23:43 the City of Tampa, you have got about 1007 signs put up

11:23:47 telling trucks where they cannot go.

11:23:49 Most of those signs are on local streets, after you

11:23:51 turn off the major road, then the trucker sees that

11:23:54 sign, and it's like, oh, this isn't a truck route.

11:23:57 It shouldn't be a surprise, but the sign is there

11:24:00 saying in a trucks.

11:24:02 Instead of signing every road in the city as not being

11:24:04 suitable for trucks, it makes a lot more sense to put

11:24:08 up approximately 650 signs on the roads that are truck

11:24:13 routes telling the trucks, these are the truck routes.

11:24:15 The ordinance modifications then allow law enforcement

11:24:19 officer, if he sees a truck, not on a truck route, he

11:24:23 can immediately pull him over and ask him to show

11:24:26 evidence of its purpose for being on that road and they

11:24:30 can provide that evidence, they are in good shape.




11:24:32 So that combination of the signage program and the

11:24:36 ordinance changes, we believe, will make your truck

11:24:40 route system much more publicized and visible and the

11:24:43 enforcement process can be more effective.

11:24:45 >> That implementation program for the signage is not a

11:24:55 funded project in the city right now.

11:24:57 >> 250,000 is not budgeted?

11:24:59 >> That's correct.

11:25:00 >> And I think those are the major things.

11:25:04 I think the ordinance is going to be presented to you,

11:25:08 not sure when in the near future, for your

11:25:10 consideration and adoption.

11:25:11 And with that --

11:25:13 >> I was going to ask a question, when is the ordinance

11:25:15 coming back to City Council?

11:25:16 But you don't know yet.

11:25:17 >> Direct legal to put it on in the future.

11:25:27 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Some of us may not be here.

11:25:30 Depends on when it comes back.

11:25:31 >> It's coming back before May 1st.

11:25:38 >> April S, you mean.

11:25:40 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Councilwoman Capin.




11:25:42 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Go back one or two of the -- the next

11:25:45 one.

11:25:45 The next one.

11:25:53 One more.

11:25:54 Right there.

11:25:55 There's in a signage for engine breaking real quick.

11:25:59 Engine breaking, explain that to me.

11:26:10 As conned as possible.

11:26:12 >> If you drive a car with an automatic transmission,

11:26:15 you probably don't know what this is.

11:26:16 But if you have a straight drive, if you went off the

11:26:20 gas pedal, then the engine slows you down.

11:26:27 Unfortunately it makes a lot of noise in that process.

11:26:29 In some area near ports, checkers has tended to use

11:26:33 that, makes a lot of noise especially if they come

11:26:35 through at night.

11:26:36 However, this issue, a vehicle should not have a

11:26:40 muffler system that exceeds noise limits.

11:26:45 And so there may be other ways of enforcing that but

11:26:49 again very difficult to enforce.

11:26:51 An officer has to be there with the proper equipment to

11:26:53 measure noise.




11:26:54 And it's just a difficult thing to do.

11:26:57 >>JOSEPH P. CAETANO: Who is responsible to keep the

11:27:09 trees trimmed?

11:27:11 >> Generally it's the Parks Department on most city

11:27:13 streets.

11:27:14 I don't know the specifics about a CCD orb HOA.

11:27:19 If they are not public roads, then the homeowners

11:27:22 association would be responsible.

11:27:23 >>JOSEPH P. CAETANO: We need to make sure of that

11:27:26 because I did get a call from the fire department that

11:27:29 some of their aerial trucks need at least 12 feet.

11:27:34 And if those aerials get damaged, it's very, very

11:27:37 expensive.

11:27:41 Because I have an area that I live that didn't meet

11:27:43 that requirement.

11:27:44 So the trucker had to make sure that he didn't go

11:27:47 understood these trees.

11:27:49 >> Okay.

11:27:51 Very good.

11:27:51 I'll make a note of that.

11:27:53 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Any other questions?

11:27:59 Thank you very much.




11:28:00 Okay.

11:28:00 On the next one, council, I think we can do this one

11:28:05 pretty quickly, number 6.

11:28:08 I understand you want to speak to number 6?

11:28:12 >>JULIA COLE: Legal department.

11:28:13 I know you are running short on time today.

11:28:15 I did want to let you know that this is a workshop on

11:28:19 the TCA ordinance changes.

11:28:22 We had discussed them with City Council previously.

11:28:25 This is scheduled to go to the Planning Commission and

11:28:27 come back to you for first reading.

11:28:29 On February 17th.

11:28:31 We also have a meeting scheduled with council members

11:28:34 individually to further discuss this issue.

11:28:37 And we have a great presentation but if you need to

11:28:42 move on to your next agenda item, I would simply ask

11:28:44 that you just make a motion to transmit these to the

11:28:47 Planning Commission, and then they would come right

11:28:49 back to you for first reading.

11:28:50 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Anyone that wants to speak to?

11:28:56 Anyone else want to speak?

11:28:58 >> Al Steenson: I know it's late so I am going to be




11:29:02 very brief.

11:29:03 4100 west Leila Avenue representing Gandy Sun Bay South

11:29:09 civic association.

11:29:11 First of all, I hope that this particular presentation

11:29:14 that we just saw will be posted on the Internet so we

11:29:17 can pass it around to our individual members.

11:29:21 I know that it was done by an outside contractor and it

11:29:25 may be proprietary but the city paid for it so I hope

11:29:29 it will be put up and made available to the general

11:29:31 public.

11:29:31 Number two, the issue that I have, I have a couple of

11:29:38 streets in my neighborhood that constantly have trucks

11:29:43 on them.

11:29:44 Now, the signs -- I'll give you one example.

11:29:48 There's a sign on Pearl Avenue, at the railroad tracks,

11:29:52 where the truck route stops.

11:29:55 It is actually smaller than a speed limit sign.

11:29:59 All it has is a little circle, you know.

11:30:01 >> That's on your street?

11:30:07 >> Pearl Avenue east.

11:30:11 There's a little section, and my suggestion is, make

11:30:19 these signs larger and make them more specific.




11:30:22 I don't know how they word them.

11:30:24 I have seen them before.

11:30:25 "no vehicles over six wheels."

11:30:29 That makes it -- one axle and duals on the back.

11:30:37 That allows FedEx and all the other people, Zephyrhills

11:30:42 water and so forth, and make these things bigger so the

11:30:45 truckers can do it.

11:30:46 Another one is on the other end of Pearl.

11:30:48 By the time these trucks turn in, and I have gotten

11:30:51 information that, for example, Macy's is routing their

11:30:56 deliveries down south Dale Mabry and onto Pearl.

11:31:01 Well, I have been trying to work with the -- trying to

11:31:05 make contact with the warehouse manager at Macy's and

11:31:12 the other one is Manhattan Avenue.

11:31:13 I see tankers going down there all the time.

11:31:16 There's not but one gas station on Gandy and that's on

11:31:19 the corner of Manhattan and Oklahoma.

11:31:21 If he's delivering, then he has a reason to be there.

11:31:26 I followed one of them down there and trying to make

11:31:28 the turn off of south Manhattan.

11:31:31 Onto Interbay, go westbound.

11:31:34 It's a disaster.




11:31:36 When he should have been going down Westshore when he

11:31:38 gets to Westshore and inner bay, just makes a nice

11:31:41 turn.

11:31:41 So, again, very quickly.

11:31:45 I hope that the transportation people will look into

11:31:48 this.

11:31:52 Also, I know the police are busy but we need better

11:31:56 enforcement.

11:31:58 I have seen trucks going down Manhattan follow very

11:32:04 closely behind by a police officer.

11:32:08 So we need better enforcement but we need better

11:32:12 definition of where they should be and where they

11:32:14 shouldn't be.

11:32:15 Thank you very much.

11:32:15 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Thank you very much, sir.

11:32:18 Anyone else?

11:32:25 >> President I'm Ed Tillou.

11:32:30 As I said, my training was industrial hygiene safety

11:32:33 management.

11:32:34 My second one now is energy, alternative energy.

11:32:38 And at a prior City Council meeting, I tried to append

11:32:42 something and it wasn't very clear because I only had a




11:32:46 very short time.

11:32:49 Where trucks become more, and therefore truck routing

11:32:51 becomes important, is that this thing about using

11:32:58 natural gas, natural gas has some niches that it would

11:33:03 be good for, and that's essentially -- it's too

11:33:08 dangerous to use in cars.

11:33:09 It's not the answer to the gasoline costing more.

11:33:12 But the trucks and the buses could run on natural gas,

11:33:18 because they are float applications which makes the

11:33:21 greatest safety.

11:33:23 And a point I tried to make but didn't have time last

11:33:27 time is that this NIBA, not in my backyard, I was on a

11:33:35 committee in Baltimore about a bad location for a

11:33:38 natural gas terminal.

11:33:40 That was sparrow's point because the flames can go ten

11:33:45 miles.

11:33:45 But Tampa is very rare in having the bay as its

11:33:48 backyard.

11:33:49 And you could actually put an offshore terminal in the

11:33:54 bay that would be reasonably safe.

11:33:55 So I think that's something to think about, because in

11:33:59 years to come the trucks and the buses will need fuel,




11:34:04 and the good candidate for that is natural gas, because

11:34:09 fleet can make it safe.

11:34:10 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay, thank you.

11:34:14 Anyone want to address the item on item 6 under the

11:34:21 workshop?

11:34:22 Anyone want to speak to City Council?

11:34:24 Otherwise we are going to make a motion that this move

11:34:27 forward to the Planning Commission.

11:34:31 Anyone want to address City Council?

11:34:34 134 move to send to the Planning Commission, number 6.

11:34:40 >>JOSEPH P. CAETANO: Second.

11:34:44 >>THOMAS SCOTT: All in favor?

11:34:46 Opposes?

11:34:46 Okay

11:34:47 And that will come back to us when?

11:34:51 Whenever they hear it?

11:34:52 >> February 17th.

11:34:53 >> Okay, thank you.

11:34:56 The next one is the alcoholic beverages.

11:34:58 We have about -- well, how long are you going to be?

11:35:07 People are saying they have to leave.

11:35:16 I think Mrs. Capin who had to leave made the motion.




11:35:20 Why don't we continue this to the workshop, the

11:35:25 24th?

11:35:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: February 24th workshop was

11:35:27 changed to a regular meeting.

11:35:31 February 24th?

11:35:34 Forgive me.

11:35:34 That is presently set.

11:35:36 >>THOMAS SCOTT: We have one workshop thus far, right?

11:35:39 >> You have a 9:00 workshop to discuss, 9:30 to discuss

11:35:44 the creation of small business involving loan fund.

11:35:46 At 10 a.m. to have a discussion on the homelessness

11:35:50 issue relative to the solicitation in the

11:35:54 rights-of-way.

11:35:54 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Okay, then, do we want to continue

11:35:56 that one?

11:35:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I know there's some good people here

11:36:00 that intended for that, but I think the maker of this

11:36:03 movement is not here, and to do something, I don't

11:36:09 think it would be appropriate.

11:36:11 I know we have people taking time off to deal with this

11:36:15 morning, and with their consent I would like to move it

11:36:20 to a date where it would be more appropriate to hear




11:36:22 all concerns on both sides of the issue.

11:36:24 And being that we are short here three members of

11:36:28 council, I don't think it would be in the best interest

11:36:30 of the public to do it in this manner.

11:36:32 That's what I'm suggesting.

11:36:33 I don't know what the audience wants.

11:36:36 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Does anyone from the public want to

11:36:37 address council on that can come speak.

11:36:40 If you can come.

11:36:46 Come to the mike.

11:36:47 >>> I think it would be appropriate to continue this to

11:36:53 a date in the future.

11:36:55 It obviously has wide impacts on the operations of

11:36:58 these restaurants.

11:36:58 We respectfully request you continue it.

11:37:00 >> thank you.

11:37:04 Next speaker.

11:37:05 Next speaker.

11:37:06 >> Walter Crumbley from Courier City.

11:37:13 As my God friend says, no objection.

11:37:16 I would like to see it at a time where we can

11:37:19 adequately discuss it because it's got a long reaching




11:37:22 impact on neighborhoods as well as the city.

11:37:24 >> Next speaker?

11:37:28 Anyone else?

11:37:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Chairman, I get a sensitivity of

11:37:34 the audience they would like to have a full council and

11:37:36 to have a further date and that date was February

11:37:42 24th.

11:37:46 That's a workshop day?

11:37:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Yes, sir.

11:37:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: How many do we have that day, sir?

11:37:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: You have three.

11:37:54 The last one being at 10:00 to discuss the homelessness

11:37:56 issue.

11:37:57 And my understanding of council is inviting several

11:37:59 outside will organizations and government entities for

11:38:02 that.

11:38:03 So whatever time you wish.

11:38:04 >>MARY MULHERN: Can I suggest that we put this

11:38:09 discussion on that, continue this to the 24th?

11:38:13 But then maybe continue.

11:38:15 We have discussion of the noise ordinance.

11:38:18 I think we could continue that one to March.




11:38:23 It's not as pressing.

11:38:25 And we might be able to actually get through those

11:38:29 other.

11:38:30 >>THOMAS SCOTT: So you want to make a motion to that

11:38:32 effect?

11:38:33 >>MARY MULHERN: Uh-huh.

11:38:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I would second that motion based on

11:38:36 the value of the hearings that we are having.

11:38:40 I think even though it's a pressing issue, take a

11:38:45 couple of weeks so we can satisfy all parties.

11:38:49 So I would second that motion.

11:38:51 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Moved and seconded that we move the

11:38:54 noise ordinance out to, I guess, March, then place the

11:39:00 alcohol in its place?

11:39:03 Is that the motion?

11:39:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: If I can, Mr. Chairman, there is in a

11:39:06 workshop presently scheduled in March.

11:39:08 You changed the 24th from a workshop date to a

11:39:11 council date.

11:39:12 Your next workshop is scheduled for April --

11:39:18 >>MARY MULHERN: Move to the April 28th 134 move

11:39:22 the amended motion on the original motion to make it




11:39:25 April.

11:39:25 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Moved and seconded.

11:39:27 All in favor?

11:39:28 Opposes?

11:39:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Again, council, if that issue should

11:39:31 be pressing, I'm sure the administration would bring

11:39:33 that to council's attention.

11:39:34 >>THOMAS SCOTT: So then we would hear the alcoholic

11:39:36 beverages on the 24th of February?

11:39:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: February, 9:00 a.m.

11:39:44 >> At 9:00 a.m.

11:39:45 >>THOMAS SCOTT: 9:00 a.m.

11:39:47 Okay.

11:39:47 Everybody is happy and satisfied then?

11:39:49 Okay.

11:39:50 Thank you all very much.

11:39:52 Receive and file?

11:39:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: So moved.

11:39:55 >>THOMAS SCOTT: Moved and seconded.

11:39:56 All in favor?

11:39:57 Opposes?

11:39:57 Anything else need to come before council?




11:39:59 Anything else?

11:40:01 Then we stand -- yes, sir?

11:40:04 >> Since we all came down here and it's close to lunch,

11:40:11 do you issue us lunch certificates?

11:40:13 Is that in your budget?

11:40:14 >> All right.

11:40:16 Thank you.

11:40:17 We stand adjourned.

11:40:17 Thank you.

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