TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
Thursday, May 26, 2011
9:00 a.m. Workshops
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09:06:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Tampa City Council is called to
09:06:31 This morning we are going to have the legislative aide
09:06:33 of council member Lisa Montelione introduce our
09:06:38 individuals to give the invocation this morning.
09:06:43 The aide will do the introduction.
09:06:44 >> Good morning, Mr. Chair, council.
09:06:48 I would like to introduce Ariel Riskin from USF to give
09:06:59 the invocation.
09:07:00 >> Almighty God, master of the universe, the members of
09:07:08 this body, the Tampa City Council, convene here to do
09:07:12 the people's business with good faith and with selfless
09:07:16 In so doing, they fulfill a fundamental precept which
09:07:19 according to sacred Biblical tradition you first issued
09:07:23 to Adam at the time of his creation and to NOAH after
09:07:27 the great flood, the commandment to govern by just
09:07:31 laws, and again at Mount Sinai you issued forth seven
09:07:37 universal commandments for all humanity to heed which
09:07:41 became known as the seven Noah laws.
09:07:45 The first of those is that every society legislate for
09:07:48 itself a system of law, order and social justice.
09:07:51 Based on the recognition and acknowledgment of you,
09:07:54 almighty God, as the sovereign ruler of all men and of
09:07:58 all nations.
09:07:59 We the citizens of this country, the United States of
09:08:02 America, proudly proclaim this recognition and affirm
09:08:06 our commitment to justice in our pledge of allegiance
09:08:09 when we describe our union as one nation under God with
09:08:13 liberty and justice for all.
09:08:15 Grant us almighty God that those assembled here be
09:08:19 cognizant of your presence and conduct their
09:08:22 deliberations accordingly.
09:08:23 Allow them to debate their differences vigorously but
09:08:28 to remember for most to legislate for the can common
09:08:32 good of the people is not only a civic privilege but
09:08:35 also a divinely mandated responsibility.
09:08:39 O God, that the dedicated men and women of the Tampa
09:08:42 City Council be blessed with good health, wisdom,
09:08:46 compassion, good cheer and good fellowship.
09:08:48 May they contemplate as they engage in just and
09:08:52 benevolent law and public policy, and in doing so they
09:08:55 are fulfilling their godly will.
09:08:58 (Pledge of Allegiance).
09:09:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Roll call.
09:09:24 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
09:09:29 >>FRANK REDDICK: Here.
09:09:30 >>MARY MULHERN: Here.
09:09:33 >>MIKE COHEN: Here.
09:09:33 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Here.
09:09:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Here.
09:09:35 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Present.
09:09:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: This morning we are honored to have
09:09:40 the commendation for Police officer of the Month and
09:09:43 our council member Frank Reddick will do this along
09:09:46 with Chief Castor.
09:09:48 >>FRANK REDDICK: Good morning, Mr. Chairman, and
09:09:51 members of the Tampa City Council.
09:09:53 It's an honor to present our Officer of the Month.
09:09:57 And he is Detective Nathan Horvack.
09:10:02 I will turn it over to Chief Castor to tell us about
09:10:04 >> Chief Castor: Again it's my pleasure to bring
09:10:09 before you the Officer of the Month.
09:10:11 And it's my pleasure to introduce Nate Horvack, the
09:10:15 Officer of the Month for May 2011.
09:10:18 He has been employed with the Tampa Police Department
09:10:20 since October of two. His assignment at the time he
09:10:26 was named officer of the month was a ROC officer in the
09:10:29 south end of district 1, did an outstanding job.
09:10:32 There was no crime too big or too small for him to
09:10:36 Just to highlight a couple of the incidents that he's
09:10:39 been recognized for.
09:10:40 It was a series of burglaries in the south end of town.
09:10:44 And while it wasn't Nate's area, he asked if he could
09:10:47 be involved in that, and he did some latent
09:10:51 investigations, some research, and found a video of one
09:10:54 of the suspects.
09:10:55 He was able to identify several suspects, potential
09:10:58 suspects through that, from that video from other
09:11:01 evidence that he derived, and he got his squad together
09:11:08 and did the research of past addresses and pawn
09:11:12 receipts from these individuals and gave out
09:11:14 assignments for them to check these previous addresses,
09:11:16 see if they could locate them, check some of the pawn
09:11:19 shops and see if they could find them there.
09:11:21 After an exhaustive search they were unable to find the
09:11:25 Nate went back to the pawn receipts and found that some
09:11:28 of the property had been pawned at a shop out in
09:11:31 Fletcher Avenue.
09:11:32 So he went out there in the vicinity of Fletcher and
09:11:35 went to all the area motels to see if the suspect's
09:11:40 vehicle may be in the area.
09:11:42 And it happened to be motel 6, I guess, left the light
09:11:45 on for some of these suspects.
09:11:47 [ Laughter ]
09:11:48 And he found a truck matching the suspect description,
09:11:52 called his squad in, did some lengthy surveillance, and
09:11:55 when the individuals came out to get into the truck,
09:11:57 they boxed them in and arrested all of them.
09:12:00 They had already checked out, and they were getting
09:12:02 ready to leave the state.
09:12:04 So he was able to arrest all of these individuals, find
09:12:07 the stolen property, and the detectives in the City of
09:12:10 Tampa and Hillsborough County were able to clear ten
09:12:14 residential burglaries based on his latent
09:12:19 In another instance that we suffered a series of auto
09:12:24 thefts along Kennedy Boulevard, and there was a
09:12:28 description of a tow truck picking these cars up and
09:12:33 actually stealing them.
09:12:34 So Nate went into the area and happened to see a tow
09:12:37 truck pulling a vehicle down Kennedy Boulevard.
09:12:40 He just made note of the tow truck, particular license
09:12:44 plate it had on the front and a description of the
09:12:47 A short time later, ab BOLO photo went out for a stolen
09:12:54 It happened to be that vehicle.
09:12:55 So based on the information he gave the squad members
09:12:57 they were able to identify the tow truck company.
09:13:00 Nate went down, positively identified the driver.
09:13:02 They took him into custody, found that stolen vehicle,
09:13:06 through his interrogation skills the suspect gave up
09:13:09 stolen property from other incidents and also a second
09:13:12 stolen vehicle.
09:13:13 So he does a great job every day, and that's why he's
09:13:17 being named Officer of the Month for May 2011.
09:13:21 It happens to be a great month for him because he also
09:13:24 just got promoted to detective on May 15th of this
09:13:28 So I give you Nate Horvack.
09:13:37 >> On behalf of Tampa City Council we would like to
09:13:39 present you this commendation for being chosen as Tampa
09:13:41 police Officer of the Month for May 2008.
09:13:46 >> Tampa police benevolent association.
09:13:57 We would like to give you this $100 gift certificate
09:14:00 card to use however you want.
09:14:03 >> Steve Stickley representing Stepp's towing service.
09:14:10 Stepps towing service was not -- [ Laughter ]
09:14:16 On behalf of Jim and Judy and Todd Stepp, we would like
09:14:20 to present a statue for a job well done.
09:14:25 We appreciate the work that you do.
09:14:30 >> Frank DeSoto with Bill Currie Ford Lincoln.
09:14:37 Nate, congratulations on a job well done.
09:14:39 We would like to present with you this watch.
09:14:41 >> These flowers aren't really for you.
09:14:54 There's always a behind-the-scenes person and I would
09:14:58 like to present this to your wife.
09:15:00 And there's always a behind-the-scenes person I want to
09:15:04 present this to the chief for a job well done.
09:15:09 [ Applause ]
09:15:13 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I don't think I have ever seen the
09:15:15 chief blush.
09:15:18 On behalf of Bern's steakhouse we will provide with you
09:15:21 a $100 gift certificate to enjoy dinner with your wife.
09:15:24 And Bryn Allen studios is going to provide a
09:15:30 photographic package for you and your family.
09:15:32 So congratulations.
09:15:33 And we appreciate what you do out there.
09:15:36 [ Applause ]
09:15:41 >> Sharon McDonald with the Straz center.
09:15:44 We want to thank you for all you do for the community.
09:15:48 >> Wow.
09:15:56 I'm overwhelmed.
09:15:57 First I would like to thank City Council, obviously,
09:16:00 and obviously all the sponsors and the businesses that
09:16:03 are donating to me, mainly my wife.
09:16:10 I know this is a team effort here, the police officers
09:16:15 don't do anything by themselves, and I would really
09:16:18 like to thank a couple witnesses.
09:16:21 I am not going to mention their names, but in these
09:16:23 particular burglary cases.
09:16:24 They helped us solve this crime, no doubt.
09:16:28 They are definitely the eyes and ears for us.
09:16:30 And without them, we couldn't have done it.
09:16:32 A couple of them, we convince them we are going to
09:16:39 protect them anyway we can.
09:16:41 And thank you to them.
09:16:46 And the people involved in the residential burglaries
09:16:48 the last time I checked were still on a very high bond
09:16:52 so they are not getting out anytime soon.
09:16:55 I obviously thank my children for putting up with my
09:16:58 hours, and my wife, my beautiful wife, and the chief,
09:17:02 and my immediate staff here, major Ruggerio and the
09:17:07 staff in district 1.
09:17:08 Thank you very much.
09:17:09 [ Applause ]
09:17:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
09:17:14 It's really us thank you and the police force and Chief
09:17:18 Castor for the outstanding that you do on a daily basis
09:17:22 and for yourself who go beyond the senses in real life,
09:17:27 something beyond the scope that you recognize and deal
09:17:30 with and you are able to solve these crimes.
09:17:32 Thank you very much.
09:17:32 >> Chief Castor: Thank you, council.
09:17:36 We appreciate it.
09:17:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: We need approval of the agenda.
09:17:44 >> So moved.
09:17:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mr. Reddick.
09:17:49 Second by Mrs. Mulhern.
09:17:50 All in favor?
09:17:52 The Ayes have it unanimously.
09:17:54 Public comments, three minutes per speaker.
09:17:59 An item not on the agenda.
09:18:01 I am going to reverse it today.
09:18:03 This is a workshop.
09:18:05 Any item not on the agenda.
09:18:06 I see no one.
09:18:11 Before I go top this we are going to do ordinances 2
09:18:15 and 3 and then go to the workshop.
09:18:20 We have three workshops that could be lengthy.
09:18:23 So please bear that in mind.
09:18:26 We need to open 2 and 3.
09:18:30 I have a motion by Mrs. Mulhern, second by Mr. Suarez.
09:18:34 All in favor of the motion?
09:18:36 The ayes have it.
09:18:37 The ordinance 2 and 3 are open.
09:18:40 Item number 2.
09:18:41 >>JULIA COLE: Legal department.
09:18:43 These two ordinances are back in front of you from your
09:18:46 last week's meeting.
09:18:47 There was some confusion on the record as to which
09:18:49 ordinances were read.
09:18:50 So I would ask that you first rescind your previous
09:18:53 motions from last week and then go ahead and read the
09:18:55 title of these two ordinances again, and would ask the
09:18:59 clerk to schedule second reading on these two
09:19:01 ordinances for June 9th in your evening agenda.
09:19:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I think I need to follow up, the
09:19:09 attorney just told us, a motion to rescind.
09:19:12 >> Motion to rescind 12347 last week's meeting on these
09:19:15 two items last week.
09:19:17 I have a motion by Mr. Cohen.
09:19:18 Second by Mr. Suarez.
09:19:19 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying
09:19:22 Opposed, nay.
09:19:23 The Ayes have it unanimously.
09:19:25 Anyone in the audience care to speak on item number 2?
09:19:29 I see no one.
09:19:30 I think last week I went left to right.
09:19:33 We go right to left.
09:19:34 Mr. Suarez, number 2.
09:19:38 Motion to close item number 2.
09:19:40 I have a motion by Mrs. Mulhern, second by Mrs. Capin.
09:19:45 All in favor?
09:19:46 The Ayes have it unanimously.
09:19:48 Oh, you don't want to close?
09:19:55 I'm sorry.
09:19:58 Mr. Suarez.
09:19:58 >>MIKE SUAREZ: An ordinance vacating discontinuing
09:20:03 closing abandoning a certain right-of-way a portion of
09:20:05 11th street north of Cumberland Avenue, east of
09:20:09 Meridian and west of 12th Street in interstate
09:20:13 investment company's platinum 4 subdivision, a
09:20:15 subdivision in the City of Tampa, the same being more
09:20:18 fully described in section 2 hereof, subject to the
09:20:21 reservation of certain easements as set forth herein,
09:20:24 subject to certain covenants, conditions and
09:20:27 restrictions as more particularly described herein,
09:20:29 providing an effective date.
09:20:29 >> Second.
09:20:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Seconded -- motion by Mr. Suarez,
09:20:39 second by the honorable council member Mulhern.
09:20:44 All in favor of the motion -- this is first reading
09:20:47 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
09:20:50 Opposed, nay.
09:20:53 I'm sorry, I missed that vote.
09:20:57 So it's 6 to 1.
09:21:00 Did you vote yes or no?
09:21:03 All right, motion passes unanimously.
09:21:05 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried.
09:21:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I was just getting ready to say you
09:21:13 would be a little late that you weren't feeling well,
09:21:16 but like a good council member you showed up on time.
09:21:18 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with second reading being
09:21:21 on June 9th at 6 p.m.
09:21:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Item 3.
09:21:31 It's already open.
09:21:33 Anyone in the audience care to speak on item number 3?
09:21:37 I see no one.
09:21:38 Motion to close, please.
09:21:40 Motion made by Mrs. Capin, second by Mr. Suarez to
09:21:44 All in favor?
09:21:46 The Ayes have it unanimously.
09:21:49 Mrs. Capin.
09:21:51 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you, chairman.
09:21:52 An ordinance presented for first reading consideration.
09:21:54 An ordinance of the city of Tampa, Florida rescinding
09:21:59 and repealing ordinance number 2008-160, which vacated,
09:22:06 closed, discontinued abandoned certain right-of-way, a
09:22:08 portion of 11th lying south of Whiting Street,
09:22:11 north of Cumberland Avenue, west of Channelside Drive
09:22:14 and east of Meridian Avenue, in interstate investment
09:22:18 company's platinum 4, a subdivision located in the City
09:22:22 of Tampa, Hillsborough County, Florida, subject to
09:22:24 certain covenants, conditions and restrictions,
09:22:27 providing for repeal of all ordinances in conflict,
09:22:29 providing for severability, providing an effective
09:22:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mrs. Capin,
09:22:36 second by Mrs. Mulhern.
09:22:37 Discussion by council members?
09:22:38 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
09:22:41 Opposed, nay.
09:22:42 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with second reading and
09:22:45 adoption being on June 6th -- on June 9th at 6
09:22:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: We have workshops which are set,
09:22:57 items 4, 5, 6, and then 7 discuss the legal department.
09:23:01 We need to open up all the workshops.
09:23:04 Motion by Mrs. Capin, second by Mrs. Montelione.
09:23:07 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
09:23:10 Opposed, nay.
09:23:11 The Ayes have it unanimously.
09:23:14 >> Catherine Coyle, land development.
09:23:16 If I could really quick, go Bolts.
09:23:18 Very excited.
09:23:21 My son was born eight days after they won the first
09:23:25 Stanley Cup so he can't wait to get a new
09:23:27 seven-year-old birthday present that the they win
09:23:30 Just to go over the enforcement quickly, ensuring
09:23:34 compliance as the motion said, I believe the majority
09:23:36 of the members of the team that deal with enforcement
09:23:39 are here.
09:23:40 It is a coordinated effort, as wove stated in the past,
09:23:43 fire marshal, TPD, the zoning office and legal office
09:23:47 to deal with the enforcement of alcohol permits.
09:23:50 I believe individually, and we have spoken with Mrs.
09:23:55 Capin as well and understood the concept of potentially
09:23:58 posting conditions which we think -- I believe
09:24:01 collectively it's a really, really good idea, and the
09:24:03 way that Mrs. Capin has phrased it is a really good
09:24:07 idea, especially for enforcement.
09:24:10 If you wish, you can hear from the officers as well
09:24:13 that entering an establishment and seeing a very
09:24:17 specific list or concise list of items, hours of
09:24:20 operation and so on, making very clear to the officer
09:24:23 on-site, whether it be a code enforcement officer, fire
09:24:27 marshal or TPD, it's very enclosure what those things
09:24:29 are, and clearly if they are outside of that there's an
09:24:33 issue and potentially a violation, then we could
09:24:36 potentially bring a case before council for suspension,
09:24:39 revocation, if it falls right in line.
09:24:41 We are hear for any comments or questions or any that
09:24:44 you may have.
09:24:44 But I will turn it over to Ms. Capin, I believe, at
09:24:48 this time.
09:24:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Any questions by council members?
09:25:01 >>YVONNE CAPIN: (off microphone) this is what brought
09:25:04 to light the first -- when I saw -- this is a snapshot
09:25:09 of 24th along Howard Avenue, and if you look at
09:25:15 them, no two are identical in their condition.
09:25:23 And that is what really brought this top light.
09:25:26 When I investigated further, got a snapshot of this
09:25:33 which is over 1,000 establishments in the city that are
09:25:38 So, therefore, I went, and as you well know, walked
09:25:47 with police officers on my own time in Howard Avenue,
09:25:50 because that was my district.
09:25:51 I had a community meeting.
09:25:52 And all that input and all that information came back,
09:25:55 and we shared it, or I shared it were the
09:26:00 administration, and came up with the idea of maybe
09:26:05 posting these conditions that are very individual and
09:26:11 particular to each establishment, as it's supposed to
09:26:18 Every time they come up to us as quasi-judicial and
09:26:22 each one is individual and each one has certain
09:26:25 criteria. Some of these were way before any of us were
09:26:30 Now, the other thing -- and that's why I passed it out,
09:26:34 so you have an idea of what -- because I don't think we
09:26:36 have -- I'm sorry.
09:26:42 You need a copy?
09:26:43 Here is an extra one.
09:26:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Now you have two copies.
09:26:51 >>YVONNE CAPIN: So as you well know, I worked on this
09:26:53 before, and now brought it back, because we have four
09:26:59 new council members, and we haven't had very many
09:27:03 alcoholic beverage permits.
09:27:05 So I wanted you all to have a snapshot of what it
09:27:12 Therefore, I got together with law enforcement and code
09:27:15 enforcement and Cathy Coyle and legal trying to figure
09:27:20 out how can we make this happen where it would not be
09:27:24 burdensome to the business and came up with the idea of
09:27:28 posting an 8 by 10 piece of paper with the conditions
09:27:34 that law enforcement, code enforcement, fire marshal,
09:27:39 feel that are PET pertinent, maybe the first ten,
09:27:42 because there is a lot of information.
09:27:45 All of this goes onto the site plan.
09:27:48 But as you see -- I have one in my office -- you have
09:27:51 seen the site plan and they are use.
09:27:55 And this is public information that has to be
09:27:58 And where he an officer is walking into an
09:28:00 establishment at 1 a.m., it would be -- and they will
09:28:05 let you know, very helpful for them to know what we
09:28:08 have permitted and the establishment or the applicant
09:28:13 has agreed to in order for this license.
09:28:17 I'm sorry, this permit.
09:28:18 It is not a license.
09:28:23 I would like to hear from law enforcement.
09:28:26 And I think council members would, too.
09:28:28 So that's the basis of why we are doing this again.
09:28:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: All right.
09:28:33 Law enforcement.
09:28:36 Law enforcement of the law.
09:28:38 >> Donald Miller, City of Tampa police department.
09:28:42 Alcohol investigations.
09:28:43 I spoke with Mrs. Capin about the idea of the placard
09:28:50 is a great idea coming together with code enforcement
09:28:53 and fire. It would simplify the investigation process
09:28:55 with the police department, the walk-ins, take a look
09:28:58 at this placard and be able to know exactly the type of
09:29:03 license, capacities what the zonings are.
09:29:08 It would just be a help for any police officer any hour
09:29:13 of the time just to be able to go to the wall and look
09:29:15 at that placard and know exactly what license they
09:29:20 It's a very good investigative tool.
09:29:22 I think it's a thing we should really push for to
09:29:26 encourage and help out the law enforcement.
09:29:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Any other questions by council
09:29:31 members at this time?
09:29:35 >>FRANK REDDICK: What would be the recourse if a
09:29:37 business decided not to install it?
09:29:41 >> It all depends on how it comes out, politically how
09:29:47 it is regulated, brought out by you guys, actually.
09:29:50 If you make it in the essence of an ordinance or law,
09:29:54 they would have to place out there.
09:29:59 If they don't follow the ordinance, then obviously we
09:30:02 have to do our investigation.
09:30:08 >>CATHERINE COYLE: If I oh could just be clear, to
09:30:10 clarify what Mr. Miller said, any violation of the
09:30:12 current rules that we have including having a site plan
09:30:15 on-site is required by current code, or if in the
09:30:18 future we require a placard or list of conditions, if
09:30:23 the act of not posting those is not followed through,
09:30:27 that in itself is a violation.
09:30:28 So we could in the future bring a case before you for
09:30:31 suspension or revocation.
09:30:33 So if you have to post them and you don't, that in
09:30:36 itself is a violation.
09:30:39 Which we could bring before you.
09:30:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Any other discussion by council
09:30:45 Mrs. Montelione?
09:30:49 >>LISA MONTELIONE: When we talk about the display of
09:30:51 the conditions, are we talking about the whole site
09:30:53 plan has to be displayed?
09:30:55 That was the --
09:30:58 >>YVONNE CAPIN: No.
09:30:58 It would be an 8 by 10 sheet and it would list the most
09:31:02 important issues on that permit that law enforcement
09:31:09 and code enforcement, fire marshal, need or find
09:31:15 required, and I would like to get to that, how legal
09:31:17 would look at it and come back to us later on that.
09:31:21 So it would be at the bottom, because the site plan has
09:31:25 ingress, egress, all the other, at the bottom of the
09:31:29 list, whether it's five items or ten items that are
09:31:31 particular to that site that law enforcement and code
09:31:35 enforcement find are important to them, it would say
09:31:39 see site plan for more detail.
09:31:42 In other words, if they need more information other
09:31:45 than what's on here, the site plan would be available.
09:31:50 They would look at that.
09:31:51 But what we are looking at, here is what I sent out,
09:31:54 just to give you an example of what could be on there.
09:32:02 These conditions vary by permit and may contain, for
09:32:05 example, but are not limited, hours of operation, guest
09:32:09 capacity, special parking requirements, et cetera.
09:32:18 Capacity outdoors, capacity indoors.
09:32:21 It could be any and all of those things that law
09:32:24 enforcement, code enforcement, find, and what I would
09:32:28 like to see is for them to get together with legal, or
09:32:34 legal with them, and bring back an ordinance to us for
09:32:41 review, and then at that point -- because an ordinance
09:32:45 is a law, and that would change.
09:32:49 We are not adding a condition.
09:32:51 We are just saying post the conditions that you have
09:32:55 agreed to, to help enforce compliance.
09:33:01 You know, the sale of alcoholic beverage by nature is
09:33:06 risk-associated, and that is why government regulates
09:33:10 But regulations without compliance are meaningless.
09:33:15 We here at council have a duty to protect the public
09:33:18 health, safety and well-being, and that is part of it.
09:33:21 And that is why it's come up, because there's so many
09:33:27 different conditions that no one knows, and they are
09:33:31 very particular to the establishment.
09:33:33 And I wrote some notes here.
09:33:38 The risks associated with alcohol consumption is well
09:33:41 And reasonable rules are not a burden but rather a
09:33:44 public duty.
09:33:45 We as a society have decided that with regulation of
09:33:50 compliance we find it acceptable, a property -- a
09:33:54 properly regulated alcohol industry brings life,
09:33:57 vibrancy, jobs, and quality of life to community and
09:34:00 profits to industry.
09:34:01 And compliance makes good business.
09:34:07 I hope that helps.
09:34:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Ms. Mulhern, then Mr. Reddick.
09:34:12 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
09:34:17 I think this is very reasonable, good idea, really good
09:34:23 idea for the way our current regulations of alcohol
09:34:27 sales, especially in restaurants where alcohol sales
09:34:34 are allowed.
09:34:37 I think it's interesting because Councilwoman Capin
09:34:42 brought up the fact that there are so many different
09:34:49 just restrictions or conditions have been put on over
09:34:53 the years, but the enforcement can become difficult,
09:35:03 could be difficult even with the things posted.
09:35:05 So I think this is a good short-term solution.
09:35:13 I think we need to -- I think the only way that you can
09:35:18 reduce the basic -- well, there are a number of
09:35:23 different violations, I think, we run into, but mostly
09:35:26 it's that the sales are not incidental in the
09:35:31 restaurant category.
09:35:34 Oftentimes it is -- a restaurant becomes a bar,
09:35:39 basically, and they are selling alcohol as opposed to
09:35:45 primarily selling alcohol.
09:35:47 So I think the hours of operation, we should be looking
09:35:51 at that.
09:35:52 And I know Mr. Miranda brings that up often.
09:35:55 And I agree that if you are a restaurant, you probably
09:36:00 don't need to be selling alcohol until 3:00 in the
09:36:07 I think that we need to adjust the way that we set
09:36:13 those time restrictions, and that right now it means
09:36:18 you have to -- your hours are concurrent.
09:36:22 Alcohol sales hours are concurrent with your hours of
09:36:25 operation which doesn't really make sense, especially
09:36:28 in a restaurant category.
09:36:29 So I think we need to look at that, too.
09:36:32 I think it's a really good idea, but I think we need to
09:36:35 really look further into how we are writing our code,
09:36:40 other than just the notice, and I think this is a great
09:36:45 enforcement tool of what we have right now, but I also
09:36:47 think that we need to look at the regulations
09:36:50 themselves and make some major changes.
09:36:52 And I also feel like -- and I think this would be a
09:36:55 subject of another workshop probably to discuss all
09:36:59 But I guess we'll just maybe put that on at a later
09:37:11 I guess that's it.
09:37:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Reddick.
09:37:14 >>FRANK REDDICK: I just want clarity.
09:37:17 Are you speaking of just restaurant?
09:37:19 Or talking about any establishment in the city with
09:37:26 alcohol, night clubs, mom and pops businesses, or just
09:37:35 >>YVONNE CAPIN: For it to be equal, it has to be every
09:37:37 establishment that has been permitted to sell alcoholic
09:37:43 The answer is yes.
09:37:45 >> So alcoholic beverage, is it limited to mixed
09:37:49 drinks, or speaking about wine, beer?
09:37:54 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Alcoholic beverage, wine, beer,
09:37:58 What else?
09:37:59 I think that's it.
09:38:03 I could tell you Scotch, brandy.
09:38:12 And, chairman, Councilwoman Mulhern brought up what
09:38:24 this will help if, if legal is able to come back with
09:38:28 an ordinance, what is already on the books is already
09:38:33 on the books.
09:38:34 In other words, we cannot -- Rebecca, we cannot add to
09:38:41 the conditions.
09:38:42 Therefore, whatever we move forward on changing the
09:38:46 process is not going to affect what's already -- what
09:38:50 people have already been granted.
09:38:51 >>REBECCA KERT: Legal department.
09:38:55 That is correct.
09:38:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Suarez.
09:38:58 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Councilman Capin, I appreciate.
09:39:01 This I think it's a good idea.
09:39:03 I think it's something we should implement.
09:39:05 Ms. Coyle, I have a question for you.
09:39:09 When we are looking at, let's say, for example, we pass
09:39:12 an ordinance specific to what Ms. Capin's vision is in
09:39:16 terms of the compliance, and do we currently make sure
09:39:22 that they are compliant with the use of that
09:39:24 particular -- that particular property in relation to
09:39:29 alcoholic beverage sales?
09:39:31 Or are we more reactionary in terms of when someone
09:39:34 complains about something specific to that location?
09:39:37 I mean, is there a process?
09:39:39 Do we do a quarterly report based on what they should
09:39:42 be doing, or anything like that?
09:39:44 >> The only required recording to the city is a report
09:39:48 for locations that have a 51% requirement for sales of
09:39:52 nonalcoholic beverages, food and nonalcoholic
09:39:54 beverages: The rest of the approvals that are there do
09:39:58 not require any reporting.
09:39:59 Predominantly our system is complaint-based but there
09:40:02 are occasions -- and we have had a couple recently
09:40:05 where we have proactively gone out and contacted
09:40:08 certain locations that we know have either gone dry or
09:40:13 are acting out of compliance by our own observations,
09:40:18 and we put them on notice in writing.
09:40:20 We visited them directly, various enforcement officers
09:40:24 have visited them directly, which causes them to come
09:40:26 in and ask for the proper permits.
09:40:29 Generally speaking, the majority of those situations --
09:40:32 and we have many through the years -- we deal with them
09:40:36 at our level because we get people to understand what
09:40:38 they need to do.
09:40:39 It is rare that we have to bring someone to you for
09:40:42 suspension, revocation, because we particularly are
09:40:45 able to remedy it with the core team that we have here.
09:40:47 And as Mr. Miller said, having those specific
09:40:52 conditions posted, I think, would be a benefit.
09:40:55 If you could picture the officer walking into an
09:40:57 establishment at 2:00 in the morning and there's the
09:41:01 business tax receipt and their occupational business
09:41:03 license and next to that there's a little sheet that
09:41:05 says special use hours of operation, number of parking,
09:41:12 number of seats, indoor/outdoor, they can do the quick
09:41:17 count and see they are either in compliance or not.
09:41:20 It's a very quick reference for the officer that's on
09:41:23 the street at 2:00 in the morning.
09:41:24 That's why they collectively have come to agreement on
09:41:29 how that works.
09:41:31 >> Has there ever been any process either talked about
09:41:34 or put in place where we would use information from the
09:41:37 state concerning alcoholic beverage sales at a
09:41:39 particular location?
09:41:40 The main complaint that I get from constituents
09:41:42 primarily is that the uses approved by the City Council
09:41:46 for restaurant, and then six months, eight months, a
09:41:49 year later it is now no longer operating primarily as a
09:41:52 restaurant but as a bar, or as a dance location, that
09:41:56 type of thing, and I know then we are kind of reactive,
09:42:02 we get complaints, and we have to go through the
09:42:04 process of actually shutting them down.
09:42:06 But has there ever been a process put in place to be
09:42:09 proactive so they report to us more than the yearly
09:42:13 reporting process you just mentioned, using information
09:42:15 that they have to provide to the State of Florida
09:42:18 concerning alcohol sales?
09:42:20 Anything like that?
09:42:22 And the second part I would mention is that all bars
09:42:26 and restaurants, whenever they are insured, they have
09:42:30 to provide that information on audit basis for their
09:42:33 insurance company every year.
09:42:34 So you know exactly how much their sales are.
09:42:38 Typically what they do is they pull whatever their
09:42:40 records are concerning alcohol sales, and they go back
09:42:44 and essentially wee reconstruct whatever it is.
09:42:48 Has that ever been brought forth or done before?
09:42:54 >>CATHERINE COYLE: We do coordinate -- part of our core
09:42:56 team is the ABT enforcement officers, the auditors and
09:42:59 enforcement officers.
09:43:00 Keith Hamilton is over that particular group and he
09:43:03 does work with us on those issues and he has gone in
09:43:05 with raids and investigations with TPD and fire
09:43:07 marshals, in several locations throughout the city, and
09:43:10 we do pull that information from him on locations that
09:43:12 have issues.
09:43:14 Either that we observed or that have been brought to
09:43:16 our attention through a complaint.
09:43:17 >> Excuse me for a second.
09:43:19 But when you are talking about him being involved on
09:43:21 raids and other things, it's because they are not
09:43:23 paying their taxes, correct?
09:43:24 Is that what it is, part of it, how we find out?
09:43:28 What is that specifically? When you say ABT comes in.
09:43:30 >> Not because they are not paying their taxes.
09:43:34 They could be potentially selling outside the limits of
09:43:36 their license.
09:43:37 Their license issued by the state is to the operator,
09:43:40 and it tells that operator, I can sell this type of
09:43:43 I can have this type of alcohol consumed on-site.
09:43:46 And when they operate outside of that it becomes a
09:43:49 state issue as well.
09:43:50 >> But that's a different question to what I was
09:43:53 talking about.
09:43:55 Because ours is use.
09:43:56 Theirs is type of liquor.
09:43:58 >> Ours is also the type.
09:43:59 >> I understand that.
09:44:00 So when you are talking about the operation of that
09:44:02 particular facility, whether it's ab restaurant or bar,
09:44:05 you know, they may be licensed to sell beer and wine,
09:44:10 and that's fine, and then if they are only serving beer
09:44:14 and wine and no longer a restaurant, that's when it
09:44:16 concerns us.
09:44:17 So, again, you know, as far as I know -- and I think
09:44:21 you confirmed there's nothing we have done proactively
09:44:23 to try to gain that information so that we can check to
09:44:26 make sure that people say are running a restaurant are
09:44:29 actually still running a restaurant, as opposed to
09:44:31 being reactive, when people complain, hey, you guys
09:44:34 aren't running a restaurant anymore.
09:44:37 >> Well, there's two things with the annual reporting,
09:44:40 people take the "R" designation W.the recent change in
09:44:42 the code we did amend the definition of restaurant.
09:44:45 It was a very broad definition before.
09:44:47 The new definition does make it very clear that your
09:44:51 kitchen has to be open and operational and actually
09:44:54 ready to serve and prepare food.
09:44:56 A lot of situations we were noticing the kitchen was
09:44:58 going dark, and the rest of the place was turning into
09:45:01 a bar.
09:45:01 So now upon inspection, it was really to deal with
09:45:04 those inspections, if Donny Miller or one of the
09:45:08 officers goes in and the kitchen is closed, it's a
09:45:12 Pure definition of a restaurant, regardless of the
09:45:14 alcohol sales.
09:45:15 And that can be used immediately as the enforcement
09:45:19 >> Well, I support what you are trying to do, but I
09:45:24 think it's one piece, as Councilwoman Mulhern said, one
09:45:30 piece of a larger way of how do we handle these type of
09:45:33 I do appreciate you bringing this to our attention.
09:45:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mrs. Capin.
09:45:39 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I agree with that.
09:45:40 Again, as I said, this is a way of being able for
09:45:47 enforcement of what is already there, which we cannot
09:45:53 Mr. Slater, code enforcement can answer a lot of the
09:45:58 questions you had, and maybe he will address them.
09:46:00 I would like to hear from him.
09:46:02 >> Good morning.
09:46:04 Jake Slater, director of code enforcement.
09:46:06 And business tax division.
09:46:09 When I first heard about this, several months ago, I
09:46:12 was excited about this.
09:46:14 Based upon 30 years at TPD, probably 20 of those were
09:46:19 involved in undercover investigations concerning
09:46:21 alcohol and narcotics, organized crime issues.
09:46:24 Then when I went to code enforcement and also business
09:46:28 tax, I said, this is a great, great tool for us.
09:46:31 We have over 1,000 various type of zoning ordinances in
09:46:37 the City of Tampa, and to keep up with those is very,
09:46:40 very difficult.
09:46:42 Working with TPD and the fire marshal's office and LBC
09:46:46 is a full-time job.
09:46:48 This is a great, great tool for us just as long as it
09:46:51 doesn't create a lot of work for the individual
09:46:53 business owners or a lot of cost involved.
09:46:57 The officers walking in there at 1:00 in the morning,
09:46:59 or the code officers that would be a great, great tool
09:47:04 to see an item posted on the wall, easily defined,
09:47:07 easily read, easily understood.
09:47:10 It's a win-win situation.
09:47:12 My philosophy is that the City of Tampa grants wet
09:47:20 zonings as a privilege.
09:47:22 It is not a right.
09:47:23 And they need to be held accountable for that.
09:47:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
09:47:29 I think we have heard from most of those that are in
09:47:32 the agenda other than the fire marshal, Russell
09:47:36 Spicola, I guess, will speak and address it.
09:47:41 >> Russell Spicola, fire marshal.
09:47:44 In my office, we already have something in place as far
09:47:46 as posting for occupant load and assembly permit.
09:47:50 So this would just enhance what we already have in
09:47:54 Each establishment -- and you said you have 1,000
09:47:58 there -- but they are all places of assembly, which is
09:48:01 where we are involved with.
09:48:03 Each place of assembly has to show their assembly
09:48:06 It's got to be visible.
09:48:07 And their occupant load has to be visible. If we walk
09:48:11 in there and it's not visible, we kind of give them a
09:48:15 pass the first time.
09:48:17 But the next time we walk in there, there will be
09:48:19 probably a complaint attached to that.
09:48:23 It says on the permit, must be posted at the entrance.
09:48:26 So this would enhance what Ms. Capin wants to enhance
09:48:31 what we already have in place.
09:48:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I would imagine you or your
09:48:36 department or anyone in the city would know and
09:48:38 calculate how many times you have been into different
09:48:40 structures that have overloads.
09:48:41 >> Absolutely.
09:48:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: And you just explained what happens.
09:48:45 I know this is an ongoing process, and your department
09:48:49 and yourself is always onto.
09:48:51 And what happens a second time or the third time if you
09:48:54 have an overload.
09:48:56 >> The first time -- once again, our office is mostly
09:49:02 The only time we will know somebody, their occupant
09:49:06 load is not correct, is when we go and do the annual
09:49:08 inspection or biannual inspection, and we realize that
09:49:11 though might have changed their use from what it was,
09:49:14 and we'll have to recalculate their occupant load which
09:49:16 is based on square footage.
09:49:18 But the first time we go into an establishment that we
09:49:21 have gotten a complaint on, and we verify that they are
09:49:26 overcrowded, we will issue them a $200 complaint fee,
09:49:31 which is by city referendum, 259-063, we'll give them
09:49:40 that, and we'll tell them next time we come that could
09:49:43 be triple that amount.
09:49:45 And if we go back again, just on the spot check and
09:49:49 they are overcrowded again, then we will do that.
09:49:51 There's a good chance that we may dump that building if
09:49:55 they are really grossly overcrowded.
09:49:57 But in order to dump that building we would make sure
09:50:00 that we are working with TPD because we just don't want
09:50:04 to dump a building out, some of them real close to
09:50:07 streets, and that's a safety issue.
09:50:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
09:50:11 Ms. Capin.
09:50:14 >>YVONNE CAPIN: One of the things that -- and I
09:50:16 understand the square footage, the fire marshal is, of
09:50:20 course, the safety of the public again is paramount to
09:50:22 everything else.
09:50:23 And we found that -- not discrepancies in the fire
09:50:30 That is absolutely correct to their square footage.
09:50:33 But I found along, just looking at this snapshot, that
09:50:37 there were actually locations that were permitted that
09:50:43 allowed for different occupancy when they sell
09:50:46 alcoholic beverage.
09:50:48 In other words, the capacity from the fire marshal for
09:50:52 safety was different than the capacity that the permit
09:50:59 Police officers don't know that going in.
09:51:01 They will look at the fire marshal.
09:51:04 That is there, and they are looking at the square
09:51:08 footage, and when this particular place was permitted,
09:51:13 I wasn't here.
09:51:15 I don't know exactly how that came up.
09:51:17 But it has come up in other places.
09:51:20 Maybe it was the parking that they have.
09:51:22 In other words, that's what we said, okay, this is the
09:51:27 parking capacity, this is the capacity loads for
09:51:32 alcoholic beverage sales.
09:51:33 So it has been different.
09:51:35 That's just one example of how particular alcoholic
09:51:38 beverage permitting has been.
09:51:41 Again, my intent is for legal to look at with police,
09:51:52 code enforcement, the fire marshal, Cathy Coyle's
09:52:04 office, zoning administrator, and come up with what are
09:52:07 the most important that they find here that they would
09:52:09 like to have, or they would like to see to help them do
09:52:12 their job, and that's what all of us are trying to get
09:52:19 to, I think.
09:52:22 >>MIKE COHEN: First of all, I want to say thank you to
09:52:24 Councilwoman Capin, because I know she spent a lot of
09:52:27 time late at night, out partying on Howard Avenue to
09:52:38 learn about this issue and I certainly think this is a
09:52:40 great idea.
09:52:41 Do you expect in the future, as you continue to work on
09:52:44 this issue and come up with some other ideas for things
09:52:47 that we can do?
09:52:49 I know that we all heard from some of the people in
09:52:52 Parkland Estates, for example, that they are
09:52:55 continuing, God some noise and other problems in their
09:52:59 It's just a dialogue that we are going to continue to
09:53:03 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I believe from hearing what
09:53:06 Councilwoman Mulhern said, Chairman Miranda, yourself,
09:53:11 that as a collegiate group we will be working on this
09:53:15 And whatever I have learned, I will be more than happy
09:53:21 to share.
09:53:21 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
09:53:27 Let me add my thank you to Councilwoman Capin along
09:53:32 with the others, and Councilman Cohen, you brought up
09:53:39 looking at this and revisiting and maybe as
09:53:44 Councilwoman Mulhern had mentioned that we might have
09:53:48 another discussion about things.
09:53:50 In my quest to update the Land Development Code of our
09:53:56 city, and make things more predictable and more
09:54:02 consistent, that may be the time where we want to make
09:54:07 I don't want to see us continually changing a code
09:54:13 because it makes it very difficult for businesses to
09:54:16 know when they come in what's the flavor of the day?
09:54:22 We need to come up with a regulation that is
09:54:27 comprehensive, it's consistent, and it's predictable.
09:54:34 There are certain things about the alcoholic beverage
09:54:35 permitting that in my short time here on council that I
09:54:42 have noticed and been told about, things like requiring
09:54:47 the tree survey, when someone applies for an alcoholic
09:54:50 beverage permit.
09:54:52 Seems a little over the top when you are looking at the
09:54:55 seriousness of an alcoholic beverage permit, and the
09:55:00 protection of neighborhoods and the regulation of sales
09:55:04 that we are looking to treat.
09:55:05 You know, so it's -- there are a lot of things in our
09:55:10 current alcoholic beverage code, I think, that need to
09:55:13 be revisited.
09:55:20 The number of places you have to go in our code to look
09:55:23 at chapter 27, chapter 3, chapter 20.5, and there's a
09:55:32 lot of room for improvement.
09:55:33 And you made a great start.
09:55:36 And anything that we ask or direct legal to do and come
09:55:39 back to us to make recommendations, or have our zoning
09:55:44 division come back to us with an ordinance, and make
09:55:47 recommendations, I would really want to see that
09:55:53 ordinance be comprehensive so we don't keep going back
09:55:58 and changing things, because there's a lot of making
09:56:06 this city better for businesses, and we want those
09:56:10 entrepreneurs who come in and want to open up a little
09:56:14 cafe or a nice little spot of a restaurant, and it's
09:56:21 very expensive, and we are looking at regulations that
09:56:26 are unwieldy sometimes, and I just wanted to add that
09:56:30 to the discussion.
09:56:33 So if we are going to direct legal, we are going to
09:56:36 direct zoning to come back with a regulation or
09:56:40 ordinance, I want to make sure that we are not doing
09:56:43 this every couple of months.
09:56:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
09:56:48 If I may, I have an agenda here, one set for two hours,
09:56:52 and I don't want to go past the limit.
09:56:54 I still haven't heard from the public.
09:56:55 As I understand it, we are talking about something this
09:57:00 size, and it doesn't "The Tampa Tribune" anyone
09:57:02 really -- this size, 8 by 10, to be posted on the wall
09:57:08 that states what kind of zoning they have, what hours
09:57:10 of operation they have, and what they can sell and not
09:57:14 I would imagine something like that to that.
09:57:16 So we have discussed an 8 by 10 for a long time.
09:57:21 Just the posting on the wall.
09:57:23 Nothing else.
09:57:24 I would like to ask legal, Rebecca Kert, a question or
09:57:28 I hope that this can be retroactive to those who are
09:57:32 already in business, that you can ask them to post
09:57:35 this, or if you have to mandate.
09:57:38 Can you ask or can you tell?
09:57:41 >>REBECCA KERT: Legal department.
09:57:42 You can always ask.
09:57:44 As far as mandating it, that's something that if there
09:57:46 is a motion for us to come back with something, we will
09:57:49 look at that, and I understand that it is the will of
09:57:51 council for it to be retroactive.
09:57:53 I can't at this time say we are going to be able to do
09:57:56 that but we will certainly look for any creative ways
09:57:59 that we can.
09:57:59 >> That kind of clear it is question but doesn't answer
09:58:03 the question until we ask and you tell us what it is or
09:58:06 not is.
09:58:06 I heard some discussions by individuals that say that
09:58:10 possibly this is wrong and that's wrong.
09:58:12 Well, you know what?
09:58:13 We are wrong.
09:58:14 We are the ones that gave them the license.
09:58:16 We are the ones that gave the alcoholic beverage
09:58:18 license in the city for an item, one or the other.
09:58:22 We are the ones that set the hours of operation.
09:58:24 Maybe not this council, but other councils.
09:58:26 So what I'm saying is, be very, very cautious, because
09:58:31 the future is what got us here.
09:58:34 We were thinking way ahead, and guess what, now we are
09:58:37 struggling with ourselves because we did something that
09:58:41 possibly some of us said, now what?
09:58:43 Some council members in the past have done this.
09:58:45 So what I'm saying is, when you say alcoholic beverage
09:58:51 in a neighborhood, why are they different?
09:58:55 Because they are not all on the same property.
09:58:57 They are throughout the city, and they have various
09:59:01 Some are real close to neighborhoods.
09:59:02 Some are not.
09:59:03 Some are in malls.
09:59:05 There's certainly a difference between a mall in some
09:59:08 instances where they are not close to a neighborhood
09:59:11 than those that are right an alley away where you can
09:59:15 hear all the noise, indoor music, outdoor music.
09:59:18 We are not going to have music.
09:59:20 Guess what happens in about six months.
09:59:23 You have music.
09:59:26 In some instances.
09:59:27 Not all of them.
09:59:29 What's an "R"?
09:59:31 What's not an "R"?
09:59:32 What's an X's?
09:59:35 What's AP?
09:59:36 They are all different because where they sell, where
09:59:39 they locate and how they address themselves, applying
09:59:42 for this.
09:59:42 Lately what I noticed is the (COP-X).
09:59:47 In the past I didn't have too many of them come up.
09:59:50 Now we have (COP-X).
09:59:56 Because the X tells you what?
10:00:00 >>REBECCA KERT: Legal department.
10:00:03 X means they are only allowed to have on premise
10:00:06 consumption only.
10:00:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: But they doesn't have to sell
10:00:10 If you have a restaurant, you come with an X, what
10:00:15 >>REBECCA KERT: Well, Mr. Miranda, I'm not sure I
10:00:18 exactly understand your question.
10:00:19 But one reason you are seeing a lot more X's as opposed
10:00:23 to R's or anything that may are tied to an incidental
10:00:28 use is because City Council has set up categories for
10:00:32 those, and those are then approved administratively.
10:00:35 So if they are a restaurant and they close early, and
10:00:37 they don't have any outdoor music and don't meet the
10:00:41 other requirements, a lot of those are no longer coming
10:00:43 to you so the ones that are left are the more intense
10:00:46 That was the last change that City Council made.
10:00:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I can also tell you in the past, it
10:00:51 used to be 60/40 on sales, whatever they were selling,
10:00:56 60% of something, 40% of alcohol.
10:00:59 It changed to 51/49, and guess what, even that -- and
10:01:08 some individuals came over here and changed from 51/49,
10:01:12 and we gave it to them.
10:01:14 The X.
10:01:16 So now went from 60/40 to 51/49, and they don't have to
10:01:24 sell nothing, not one parcel of rice, and they can
10:01:28 continue to do business as they chose.
10:01:30 And that's yesterday's history.
10:01:32 But going forward, I always look backward to make sure
10:01:35 that where I have been I don't return to if I don't
10:01:39 like it.
10:01:39 And that's what history is all about.
10:01:41 It's a process of learning.
10:01:42 We are a process in learning.
10:01:44 So I yield right now to Ms. Capin.
10:01:49 >>YVONNE CAPIN: And I am going to refer to that X where
10:01:51 they don't have to sell a morsel of food.
10:01:56 There are establishment on the 24 businesses that have
10:01:59 an X and have to have the kitchen open and have to
10:02:02 serve food, so it is very particular.
10:02:05 It is very particular.
10:02:07 Now, I am going to close it, or ask the chairman to
10:02:12 conclude this so we can get done.
10:02:17 One of the questions again, what we are looking at here
10:02:20 is going to help deal with this.
10:02:26 This is done, and it's over a thousand, and this is
10:02:31 what we are looking at, to help law enforcement with
10:02:35 Going forward, we can definitely look at making changes
10:02:39 and making it more streamlined or the hours, whatever
10:02:43 it is that needs to be done.
10:02:47 So at the conclusion, I would like to act, and I'll
10:02:56 make that at that time.
10:02:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
10:02:58 Does anyone in the audience care to speak on item
10:03:00 number 4?
10:03:01 Please come forward.
10:03:09 This is on this subject matter only, alcohol beverage.
10:03:12 >> I'm Ed Tillou.
10:03:19 I live in Sulphur Springs.
10:03:20 I wasn't here earlier because on the City Council Web
10:03:24 site this wasn't posted.
10:03:26 I looked it up last night to find out what would be
10:03:28 spoken, and I didn't know, so I thought maybe it
10:03:31 wouldn't be anything at all.
10:03:33 With respect to item 4, I was going -- speaking on
10:03:38 economic development, they had an open house recently
10:03:43 at Cigar City brewing, and I thought I would append
10:03:47 this to economic development, because looking at their
10:03:50 number of vats and things like that I assess it is
10:03:53 about a million to two million dollar gross operation.
10:03:57 So there was a hearing on that.
10:04:00 And it's contributing to the economic development, it's
10:04:04 providing employment for 12 to 15 people, maybe.
10:04:07 So I think this City Council with respect to that
10:04:13 matter of an alcoholic beverage sales and such, they
10:04:17 did do right.
10:04:20 As I said, I wish I could speak to 5 and 6, but I have
10:04:24 my class coming up and I wasn't here earlier because
10:04:28 none of this was summarized on the Web site.
10:04:31 So I hope I don't get anyone in serious trouble, but it
10:04:33 is helpful.
10:04:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much, sir.
10:04:38 >> Pete Johnson, Tampa, Florida.
10:04:45 This whole idea about the putting up the sign, I think
10:04:48 it's a fabulous idea.
10:04:50 It would really, really work.
10:04:51 It would help immensely.
10:04:53 I'm for it 110%.
10:04:56 But we have some problems.
10:04:58 First of all, it's not going to ensure compliance.
10:05:02 And the reason we can't ensure compliance is because of
10:05:05 a lack of funding, because to ensure compliance, you
10:05:09 have to have people not working on a complaint basis
10:05:13 only -- I'm sorry, if I was at the old garage in my
10:05:19 heyday drinking up a storm, dancing until the sweat
10:05:22 came off and the place was mobbed and packed and there
10:05:24 were drugs all over the place, do you think I'm going
10:05:27 to call the cops to shut this place down?
10:05:30 Come on.
10:05:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'm disappointed that you wouldn't
10:05:34 do that.
10:05:35 >> Believe me, I have grown older and wiser, Charlie,
10:05:39 and you have helped me get that far, believe me.
10:05:41 So the problem right now is how are we going to enforce
10:05:45 Code only has 30 officers to look after the entire
10:05:49 city, okay.
10:05:52 They are not going to be able to give one person or two
10:05:55 people to go in at 1:00 in the morning.
10:05:58 TPD has got enough problems with drugs and prostitution
10:06:02 on our streets.
10:06:03 They are not going to be able to go in and check these.
10:06:07 And then once you do find them, what are you going to
10:06:10 Maybe a civil citation program needs to be expanded.
10:06:16 Right now you can use the civil citation for a few
10:06:19 zoning issues.
10:06:20 But that's it.
10:06:22 There's no enforcement of zoning in the City of Tampa.
10:06:26 You can put a lien on the property.
10:06:30 But if they are not going to cooperate and comply with
10:06:34 the zoning laws, because there is no enforcement.
10:06:38 The whole crux of the whole thing comes down to we can
10:06:42 make every ordinance under the sun.
10:06:45 We can try to make each department work better
10:06:49 together, which they still don't.
10:06:54 How do we enforce it?
10:06:57 How do we get it done?
10:07:01 So why waste all the time and the energy if we are not
10:07:05 going to invest in the department that enforces the
10:07:08 codes and regulations?
10:07:13 You are just spinning your wheels.
10:07:15 Let put out money where our mouth is and give code
10:07:18 enforcement some funding so they can hire the people to
10:07:20 have do the job that they are told to do.
10:07:24 Thank you.
10:07:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
10:07:26 Next, please.
10:07:27 >> Good morning.
10:07:36 Evelyn Yates, towers of Channelside.
10:07:40 I'm here because of ordinance 2008-153.
10:07:46 And the purpose of your meeting this morning is perfect
10:07:51 for us at Channelside towers, because section number 6
10:07:57 has restrictions that is not being complied with.
10:08:00 And how it's not being complied with, first of all,
10:08:05 number one, shall be prohibited in the wet zoned
10:08:11 property, and number two, the amplified or live music
10:08:15 is prohibited exterior of the wet zoned property.
10:08:19 But what happens for them to circumvent that is they
10:08:22 leave the doors open of the bar so the music ricochets
10:08:28 up into the condos above it.
10:08:32 And having posted something out there means the doors
10:08:36 need to be shut.
10:08:37 The doors cannot stay open to allow that music to be
10:08:42 amplified outside of the business.
10:08:47 And when they put the patio out there, the owners
10:08:55 worked with the bar owner to say we want no music to
10:08:58 come outside, we want no music to come up to the
10:09:01 So items 1 and 2 are being violated because they leave
10:09:04 the doors open.
10:09:06 They also have TVs out there on the patio which I was
10:09:10 told were for games.
10:09:14 I don't go down there in the hours that they operate,
10:09:17 but those TVs, where they are being used to amplify
10:09:21 music, I don't New York City but we need to check on oh
10:09:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
10:09:27 I met with some of the neighbors, and there is
10:09:29 something ongoing in that discussion right now.
10:09:31 But thank you so much for peering.
10:09:33 Anyone in the audience, anyone else in the audience
10:09:35 care to speak on item number 4, the workshop regarding
10:09:38 the insurance and compliance, special condition of
10:09:41 alcohol beverage?
10:09:45 Any discussion by council members?
10:09:47 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I have a question for Mr. Johnston.
10:09:55 And I believe I spoke of to Mr. Slater from code
10:10:00 enforcement, and we did have a specific person that
10:10:06 was -- Mr. Slater, if I go off, let me know or you can
10:10:11 explain it.
10:10:12 We did have someone that was specific from code
10:10:14 enforcement for alcoholic beverage.
10:10:20 We are, as you well know, facing deficits in the city.
10:10:24 And, Mr. Slater, that was one of the positions that was
10:10:32 I did think and brought this up before, and that was
10:10:38 where alcoholic beverage establishments, which we have
10:10:42 over 1,000, maybe more like 1200, would pay a fee, a
10:10:49 nominal fee of under $15 a month, which would be under
10:10:54 $200 a year, and that money would go to support -- for
10:11:03 this position that is proactive.
10:11:05 >> It wouldn't go into general funds then.
10:11:10 >>YVONNE CAPIN: That was my idea.
10:11:11 Right now, I'm not proposing that, but that is -- what
10:11:15 do you think?
10:11:16 You brought this up.
10:11:18 >> Pete Johnson: I think that's a great idea.
10:11:21 It really is.
10:11:22 Because the department is so strapped.
10:11:23 They can't even keep up with normal housing codes.
10:11:27 Let alone keep up with the liquor codes and
10:11:30 regulations, and the zoning regulations.
10:11:33 Anything to put money back into the department to help
10:11:37 it pay for itself to become a self-sufficient
10:11:40 department is an improvement.
10:11:42 And I understand that we are a tight budget.
10:11:45 Believe me, I have gone through eight years, and I have
10:11:48 seen everybody cut down to the quick, okay.
10:11:52 But the city works on sales tax, what the property is
10:11:58 If we don't take care of the property that we have got
10:12:02 by the codes, our budget is going to get worse.
10:12:07 But I agree with you, that's a good theory if we can do
10:12:10 that and keep it out of the general funds.
10:12:12 If it goes into the general funds, it's not going
10:12:17 >> Well that could be in the future also what we talked
10:12:19 Mr. Slater, just clarify what I said.
10:12:26 >> Jake Slater: Yes, that's correct.
10:12:31 We had a full-time code enforcement/business sector,
10:12:40 about November of 2005 to the end of June 2008, and
10:12:44 during that time the alcohol specter was between 50 and
10:12:51 60 inspections a week, would work nights, weekends,
10:12:55 work with the fire marshal's office, the Tampa PD.
10:12:59 Unfortunately with the budget deficits we were not able
10:13:01 to actually keep that as a full-time position.
10:13:06 Now we are handling incoming complaints.
10:13:10 We don't have a full-time dedicated alcohol inspector
10:13:13 but we do have a code enforcement inspector assigned to
10:13:16 the alcohol desk, if you will, working with LDC, Tampa
10:13:23 PT and fire marshal but not a full-time inspector.
10:13:26 >> Not a dedicated.
10:13:28 That was before there was such a person.
10:13:30 And that could be something for the future that we can
10:13:31 look at.
10:13:33 When we talked about what we are going to do with
10:13:37 streamlining and helping, again, with the alcoholic
10:13:42 Thank you.
10:13:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Let me just say this.
10:13:45 Somewhere along the line -- and I'm not speaking to
10:13:48 you, Jake, directly, but it's your department.
10:13:50 We are going to have to double up.
10:13:52 When you are looking at a 30-million-plus deficit, the
10:13:58 fire marshal is doing a great job, you are doing a
10:14:00 great job, but these things sometimes, you mentioned
10:14:02 you don't have a full-time but you have someone that's
10:14:05 doing that, that you pulled and made your resources
10:14:09 available so that the rest of the city is being adhered
10:14:12 to according to the codes, at the same time they are
10:14:15 working with the fire marshal in the evenings.
10:14:17 You are not going to go out and find these problems at
10:14:21 2:00 in the afternoon.
10:14:22 You are going to find them ate 2:00 in the morning.
10:14:24 >> That's correct.
10:14:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: So by redirecting your inside
10:14:29 energies and your staff and reallocation of manpower
10:14:33 available to the city, I would imagine you are
10:14:36 addressing almost, if not all of the needs presently.
10:14:40 >> We are actually keeping it up pretty good, to be
10:14:43 honest with you.
10:14:44 It was a luxury when we had a full-time alcohol
10:14:47 >> First time a department ever told me something was a
10:14:50 But I commend you for.
10:14:52 >> It was a luxury.
10:14:53 >> I commend you for that, because you have always been
10:14:56 very truthful.
10:14:56 >> That is the truth.
10:15:00 Tampa never had a full-time dedicated alcohol inspector
10:15:03 to ensure that the conditions of the ordinances were
10:15:07 We never had one.
10:15:08 Not in my time of 37 years here.
10:15:11 Tampa PD, I think, too.
10:15:12 They would handle it on issues coming into their
10:15:19 But to keep up with it full time with over 1,000 wet
10:15:23 zoning locations is -- it's a task.
10:15:29 It's not easy to. Work night, to work weekends, so it
10:15:33 was important to have that.
10:15:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
10:15:37 Anyone else in the audience to speak to this subject
10:15:39 matter, item number 4?
10:15:41 I see no one else.
10:15:43 Since we have discussed this, the public has spoken, we
10:15:46 certainly have the right to set some agenda or some
10:15:50 movement to our future passage of this identification
10:15:55 that is a very good idea to post in the areas where
10:15:57 it's visibly seen by all patrons, especially the police
10:16:01 department, the fire marshals and the code enforcement
10:16:04 officers, to give them a tool so they can act much more
10:16:07 quickly and much more expediently.
10:16:10 Ms. Capin, your pleasure.
10:16:14 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Real quickly, to go back to what I had
10:16:16 proposed or looked at, as far as code enforcement, and
10:16:20 the particular person, this funding would come from the
10:16:26 establishments as a fee, a nominal fee.
10:16:29 So we are not looking at our budget.
10:16:31 That's one.
10:16:32 That's for later.
10:16:34 Now, after speaking with everyone, police, code
10:16:42 enforcement, fire marshal, and zoning, I am going to
10:16:51 name the company of the safety placard.
10:16:54 I move the legal department to work with Tampa police,
10:16:56 code enforcement and the fire marshal, zoning, to
10:17:03 obtain their input as to which special alcoholic
10:17:06 beverage sales condition they believe need to be posted
10:17:10 in order to assist them in doing their job.
10:17:14 And for the legal department to come back to City
10:17:16 Council in 60 days with an ordinance that requires all
10:17:22 establishments permitted to sell alcoholic beverages
10:17:25 within the city limits to have these special conditions
10:17:28 posted in conspicuous place near the entrance of the
10:17:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mrs. Capin,
10:17:40 second by Mrs. Mulhern.
10:17:41 Discussion by council members?
10:17:42 All in favor?
10:17:43 The Ayes have it unanimously.
10:17:45 Thank you very much for attending this workshop on item
10:17:47 number 4.
10:17:48 We now go to item number 5.
10:17:58 Sixty days.
10:18:09 This is the workshop regarding economic development.
10:18:15 This is already open.
10:18:17 Ms. Montelione.
10:18:18 >>LISA MONTELIONE: There he is.
10:18:23 I was just lag for Ms. Feeley.
10:18:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: And my apologies to all.
10:18:28 Now, with the advent of technology and so forth and so
10:18:31 on, everyone is asking for video and that's fine or the
10:18:36 use of them but there's also if they aren't in here
10:18:39 within 48 hours, we haven't seen them, the clerk's
10:18:40 office hasn't seen them, so again I am just going to
10:18:45 make a statement that if they are not in according to
10:18:47 the rules, 48 hours, they will not be shown in the
10:18:55 You agree?
10:18:55 Thank you very much.
10:18:56 Mrs. Montelione, I'm sorry for the interruption.
10:18:58 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
10:19:02 I would like to have Mr. Huey present our workshop on
10:19:11 economic development.
10:19:12 We have all talked about what we need in this city is
10:19:18 jobs, and what we need in this city is some infusion of
10:19:23 economic development initiatives in order to have our
10:19:28 businesses thrive and grow.
10:19:30 There are programs that are provided by Hillsborough
10:19:34 County and by other partners in economic development
10:19:39 agencies across the city and county.
10:19:43 I'm also honored to have one of my previous bosses here
10:19:47 in the audience, gene gray, the director of economic
10:19:51 development for Hillsborough County.
10:19:52 Thank you, gene, for coming.
10:19:55 And I was privileged to do my internship under Mr. Gray
10:20:02 and economic development, and I'm glad to see him here
10:20:08 I have also invited several other members of the
10:20:12 Ernest coney is here.
10:20:14 He's been doing a lot of work in East Tampa.
10:20:17 And he has been doing a great job, made some great
10:20:22 I see that we have got members of our small business
10:20:27 development staff also here.
10:20:30 Thank you, Gregory Hart, for being here this morning as
10:20:33 And Mr. Huey, if you would like to take it away.
10:20:35 >>MARK HUEY: Good morning.
10:20:39 Mark Huey, economic development administrator for the
10:20:41 City of Tampa.
10:20:43 This is a workshop that was put together with the chair
10:20:48 regarding primarily with the intention of helping the
10:20:53 new council members get familiar with the work of
10:20:56 economic development, city involved with a variety of
10:21:01 partners that we work with.
10:21:03 And I just want to say that it's been a pleasure
10:21:06 working with the new council members.
10:21:10 You all get A's for your engagement with economic
10:21:13 development issues.
10:21:14 I know there's been some things coming before you as
10:21:16 council members already.
10:21:18 And I just can say for the record that you have been
10:21:21 very attentive, very thoughtful in your deliberations
10:21:24 of all those things.
10:21:25 So we appreciate that.
10:21:31 Is the PowerPoint going to come up?
10:21:42 I am going to speak just for about 12 to 13 minutes to
10:21:45 sort of set a stage.
10:21:46 Then I have got a few of our key partners here, and
10:21:51 council member Montelione was talking about some of the
10:21:54 partners that we have in the room.
10:21:55 And I wanted to you to hear from them that they have
10:21:59 some of their key leaders, and some of the key
10:22:02 initiatives that are occurring in our community.
10:22:05 I wanted to also say, one of the things that you see,
10:22:08 we are not talking about redevelopment today.
10:22:10 You have a couple of other workshops scheduled where we
10:22:12 are going to be talking about the work that we are
10:22:15 doing in downtown, the Channel District, Ybor City, and
10:22:17 elsewhere in the city.
10:22:19 The city is focusing on the job growth, job attraction
10:22:34 When we talk about our economy, City of Tampa, 56th
10:22:37 largest city in the U.S.
10:22:39 Some facts there about it.
10:22:41 I think the T one that hits home the most for me -- and
10:22:45 I certainly think for many of you -- is the last one
10:22:47 that with the global recession, we are struggling with
10:22:51 significant unemployment in our community, higher than
10:22:54 the national average, and with the city, and certainly
10:22:58 speaking on behalf of all the partners, everybody gets
10:23:01 And we are working doubly hard to change that dynamic.
10:23:10 Very quickly.
10:23:11 I won't talk a lot about this but it's always fun in
10:23:14 talking with audiences when you ask what is economic
10:23:17 You get a lot of different ideas about what that is.
10:23:21 And folks will talk about these kinds of things.
10:23:25 We are about creating jobs, about creating wealth,
10:23:28 improving quality of life, enhancing the economic
10:23:32 well-being of our community.
10:23:34 There's really no agreed-to defend in addition.
10:23:37 One definition, and sort of the conversation goes on,
10:23:43 you will hear discussions and themes about what we need
10:23:46 to do in economic development has to be sustainable.
10:23:49 And not penalize future generations of our community.
10:23:53 And it got to be inclusive.
10:23:56 That it's got to be something that lists everyone in
10:24:01 the community.
10:24:02 One definition, even though everybody doesn't agree on
10:24:05 definitions and I like it, is this one.
10:24:08 It talks about standard of living, and raising the
10:24:11 standard of living across the community.
10:24:15 It talks about human and physical development.
10:24:19 And what we are about.
10:24:20 You are going to hear those things talked about today
10:24:23 that we are about, having a workforce that is ready for
10:24:27 the jobs of the future, and about doing things in our
10:24:31 community, whether it's infrastructure, whether it's
10:24:34 supporting small businesses, other things about the
10:24:37 physical development of our community to position it
10:24:41 for success.
10:24:42 And there you can see the concepts of sustainability
10:24:49 and equity.
10:24:51 Now, if you can imagine that there's not a lot of
10:24:53 agreement on how to define economic development, you
10:24:57 can imagine how you do it and how a local community --
10:25:00 and I'm sure as elected officials, these are the things
10:25:03 that you get asked.
10:25:06 How are we doing it?
10:25:07 And there's even less agreement about that.
10:25:09 There's all kinds of strategies, all kinds of
10:25:13 approaches, and really at the heart of it, every
10:25:16 community has its own set of unique competitive
10:25:20 strengths and weaknesses, and challenges and
10:25:24 And so what I want to do just for a few minutes is
10:25:28 share with you some of the framework, a very high
10:25:32 level, some of the thought frameworks that affect the
10:25:35 way the City of Tampa has been doing economic
10:25:37 development, and I think it's going to impact this as
10:25:41 we are going forward.
10:25:44 One is thinking about the context.
10:25:46 And everybody understands that we are in a very dynamic
10:25:51 world in this global recession that we have been
10:25:53 through has reminded us of that brutally, and Tampa is
10:25:57 being influenced by global forces, national forces,
10:26:00 state forces, as well as regional and local forces.
10:26:05 One of the things that I had occasion to talk around
10:26:10 the community, often a question I get asked, what is
10:26:12 the next big thing for Tampa?
10:26:14 And there was a time in our history where the next big
10:26:17 thing was an NFL franchise, or a research university,
10:26:23 or the next big thing was an airport.
10:26:26 Now I talk about the Panama canal.
10:26:29 And it is evidence of the kind of changing dynamic and
10:26:33 changing world that we are in, where something, not
10:26:38 even in our city is one of the next big things that's
10:26:41 shaping our economy.
10:26:44 So there are many things in these forces that are
10:26:47 affecting our future and is creating a challenging
10:26:52 environment for all of us who care about moving the
10:26:55 city forward or leading the focus on.
10:27:03 And these forces are out of our control, aren't they?
10:27:06 They aren't things that we can get our arms around.
10:27:09 So in some level, they are unsettling.
10:27:17 The technology and communication and information
10:27:20 technology is creating unprecedented opportunities for
10:27:23 local communities to compete and win jobs.
10:27:27 One example of that is the Depository Trust and
10:27:31 Clearing Corporation, located here in our community
10:27:34 that does global financial clearing, billions of
10:27:37 dollars of transactions, it clears globally daily.
10:27:41 Who would have thought Tampa would have been a place
10:27:43 that could compete for those jobs?
10:27:47 And we have them.
10:27:48 And that's the plus side of some of these forces that
10:27:51 are shaping our community.
10:27:57 Very quickly in passing on the national side, we get
10:28:00 stimulus money.
10:28:01 Right now we have stimulus money building across -- the
10:28:05 Crosstown connector is going to have a huge impact on
10:28:07 our economy and the impact of our port.
10:28:11 We have ups and downs in defense spending which
10:28:14 influence MacDill as a driver of our economy.
10:28:17 Again a lot of forces shaping our economic planning.
10:28:22 The competitive framework is also very dynamic.
10:28:26 Not too long ago, we thought, when we talked about our
10:28:30 competitive environment, it went something like this --
10:28:33 Tampa is competing for jobs with other sun belt cities.
10:28:36 We are competing against Jacksonville, against Atlanta,
10:28:39 against Charlotte, for jobs.
10:28:43 That really isn't how we think about it anymore.
10:28:45 Now it goes something like this -- the Tampa Bay region
10:28:49 is competing for jobs and workforce -- not just
10:28:54 competing for jobs but competing for talent-with
10:28:57 regions around the world.
10:29:00 I was just involved in a potential project that may or
10:29:03 may not unfold here, but it had to do with a company
10:29:08 that is interested in near shoring jobs back to America
10:29:12 from India in the I.T. programming arena.
10:29:16 And, again, ten years ago, 15 years ago, these wouldn't
10:29:20 be the conversations we would be having about how we
10:29:23 are competing with India for jobs that might come to
10:29:27 our community.
10:29:31 I think it goes without saying as the recession is
10:29:34 winding down and we are starting to see some growth
10:29:36 occur in the national economy, the competition for jobs
10:29:40 is going to be more first than ever.
10:29:43 And I think all of our partners get that.
10:29:46 So very complicated environment.
10:29:49 Lots of forces.
10:29:50 Many of them out of our control that are affecting our
10:29:54 city, and its future economic future.
10:30:00 How do we think through that?
10:30:02 We have limited time.
10:30:03 We have limited resources.
10:30:05 What is a way that we can have a strategic framework in
10:30:09 order to help us focus our limited time and energy?
10:30:12 A lot of folks have been giving a lot of thought to
10:30:16 What you have in front of you now is sort of a
10:30:18 strategic framework that came out of work that the
10:30:21 Florida chamber foundation did, and they began to roll
10:30:24 out a few years ago.
10:30:25 And it was a way to help the state and to help local
10:30:30 communities think about in this very complex changing
10:30:34 global economy, how do we think about our future?
10:30:38 How do we direct our limited resources and our limited
10:30:42 And you can see, I won't spend a huge amount of time.
10:30:45 You are going to hear us touch on some of these themes
10:30:48 throughout the morning in the workshop.
10:30:50 But it talks about in the middle of the page that we
10:30:53 are all about those places, those clusters of industry
10:30:59 that we have a competitive advantage in as a state and
10:31:03 as a local community.
10:31:04 Let's focus on those.
10:31:06 And let's nurture them and grow them.
10:31:12 So spent a lot of time locating where those places are
10:31:14 because that's where we can leverage our limited time
10:31:17 and resources to focus on.
10:31:19 At the bottom of the page, it shows you those areas of
10:31:22 policy, if you will, and of action where we can really
10:31:27 influence our ability to compete in those clusters.
10:31:30 So it talks about talent.
10:31:33 And that begins with the K-12 education system.
10:31:35 They are part of our economic development team, the
10:31:38 Hillsborough County school system.
10:31:40 Goes through to higher education, and our ability to
10:31:44 match workforce with business opportunities in the
10:31:48 You see the whole area of innovation.
10:31:51 And so everything we can do to enhance venture capital
10:31:55 availability in our community, everything we can do to
10:31:58 help support businesses.
10:32:00 And you are going to be hearing about some of those
10:32:02 services later in the workshop.
10:32:05 Then growth leadership and infrastructure.
10:32:09 All of those things we do to provide better roads,
10:32:12 provide multimodal transit, to have an effective
10:32:15 dynamic port, sustainable energy, sustainable water
10:32:19 resources, a good land use plan in our community.
10:32:24 Business climate.
10:32:25 How are we -- how are our incentives?
10:32:29 How are our costs as a community for doing business?
10:32:32 Are we leaning forward to help businesses that want to
10:32:36 be here and grow in our community?
10:32:38 Local hub.
10:32:39 How are we helping companies in our community to become
10:32:42 competitive in a global world?
10:32:45 What are the ways we are supporting them?
10:32:47 How are we trying to attract foreign-directed
10:32:51 investment and so forth?
10:32:52 And then quality of life.
10:32:54 What are we doing to make Tampa a place where the
10:32:58 workforce of the future wants to live?
10:33:01 I wanted to share and spend -- this next important
10:33:06 point for all of you.
10:33:08 We are going to be hearing from some of our partners
10:33:10 who work day to day in bringing jobs and working with
10:33:13 companies and projects.
10:33:15 But this makes a point for you as council.
10:33:19 You are involved in these things all day long, every
10:33:21 day when you sit in these council chambers, aren't you?
10:33:25 When you are working to help the police force reduce
10:33:28 crime, when you are helping a neighborhood with
10:33:31 neighbor a new park in their neighborhood or
10:33:34 You are helping economic development.
10:33:37 So all of the things that you do, when you have a
10:33:41 zoning and you are leaning forward to help a business
10:33:43 come into our community, you are doing economic
10:33:46 development work.
10:33:48 So, again, this reminds us of the breadth of activity
10:33:51 that is involved in making us competitive as a city,
10:33:55 and the role that City Council has.
10:33:57 The very important role in many, many spheres of that.
10:34:03 One of the other things that we as a team focus on, in
10:34:07 focusing our limited time and resources, are key
10:34:12 drivers of our economy.
10:34:13 Institutions, and you see a number of the drivers and
10:34:19 you know all of these places from the airport to the
10:34:21 port to Busch Gardens.
10:34:23 Many of our arts and cultural institutions.
10:34:26 These are drivers that we also tend to try to -- how
10:34:30 can we come along these drivers and help them grow and
10:34:33 help them contribute and grow in our economy?
10:34:36 And this is a way that we focus our time and effort.
10:34:40 I know many of you have noted the important role that
10:34:44 small businesses play as drivers in our economy.
10:34:48 Very quick slide on that.
10:34:50 And this shows the composition of our economy in
10:34:54 Hillsborough County.
10:34:56 And in blue, you see the number of businesses.
10:35:00 And they are shown in three different categories where
10:35:03 the size of the business, the first column are one to
10:35:08 The second column is ten to 99 employees.
10:35:12 The last column are businesses and jobs in the 100 to
10:35:16 500-plus category.
10:35:22 You see on the size of the column is the jobs or
10:35:27 establishments in our community that those three
10:35:29 categories represent.
10:35:31 So the story is, 94% of the businesses in our community
10:35:36 are small businesses, less than nine employs.
10:35:40 And they contribute almost 50% of the jobs.
10:35:44 47% of the jobs.
10:35:46 The middle category -- and these tend to be maybe the
10:35:49 most dynamic companies that have the ability to
10:35:51 contribute most to our future growth.
10:35:55 10 to 99 employees in size.
10:35:57 They account for 31% of the jobs in our community.
10:36:01 And then you see there's a handful of companies, not
10:36:04 even 1%, who actually contribute a very significant
10:36:08 part of jobs to our community.
10:36:09 22% of our jobs from larger companies.
10:36:13 And so our efforts are not just about large company, or
10:36:18 just about small companies.
10:36:19 We have got to be about the whole picture.
10:36:22 And so you will be hearing today in the workshop from
10:36:26 entities that are helping attract all sizes of
10:36:28 companies and grow businesses of all sizes in our
10:36:38 From a public sector standpoint, historically there's a
10:36:41 variety of tools that we have at our disposal for
10:36:44 making an impact on our economy.
10:36:47 And so waive done is on a couple of slides here, just
10:36:51 listed those tools, and how they help accomplish
10:36:54 certain objectives, whether it's business start-ups,
10:36:57 across the top of this page, or attracting businesses,
10:37:01 helping businesses expand, or nurturing innovation in
10:37:05 our entrepreneurship.
10:37:08 One-stop center.
10:37:09 I know this is something the new mayor has a particular
10:37:12 interest in, in can improving that capacity in our
10:37:17 Technology and business parks, sometimes communities in
10:37:21 the county is actually taking an initiative in this
10:37:24 regard to create a public research and business park.
10:37:29 Incentive zones.
10:37:31 Examples of that are many.
10:37:32 It would be like our community redevelopment areas,
10:37:35 like our enterprise zone, like the foreign trade zone
10:37:41 that the city works on with the community.
10:37:45 Entrepreneurship and development activities.
10:37:47 You will be hearing about a number of those programs
10:37:53 I skipped a slide.
10:37:55 Small business assistance center.
10:37:57 Group marketing program.
10:37:58 The Tampa Bay partnership.
10:38:00 You are going hear from in a minute started as a
10:38:03 marketing program.
10:38:04 How can we work together among municipalities and
10:38:07 entities to market our region together?
10:38:10 Convention and tourism.
10:38:12 As a tool.
10:38:13 We are not going to be talking about that today, but
10:38:15 many of you familiar with the good work of Tampa Bay
10:38:17 and company.
10:38:19 Research and development investments.
10:38:22 There are a number of things focused out at the
10:38:24 university that we get to be a part of.
10:38:26 Certainly the CAMLS project being built in our downtown
10:38:30 has that aspect, as does the incubation center that we
10:38:36 were a part of in developing at the University of South
10:38:44 So there you see a variety of programs.
10:38:47 Incentive programs are listed last.
10:38:51 The ad valorem tax exemption program which was just
10:38:53 passed by taxpayers and implemented by City Council
10:38:57 would be an example of that.
10:38:59 You as a council, the new members have been involved in
10:39:01 supporting QTI applications and all of those kinds of
10:39:07 incentive programs.
10:39:08 So there are a variety of tools there.
10:39:09 So these are the tools that now and over your time as
10:39:14 council members you will be working with in a variety
10:39:16 of capacities.
10:39:18 The last framework to think about is a team sport.
10:39:23 And I have listed on this slide when it comes to
10:39:26 economic development, and I'm sure I have missed
10:39:29 entities that are important here, but these are all
10:39:33 And every day, these organizations are making things
10:39:37 happen on the economic development front.
10:39:40 And you will see listed there the Hillsborough County
10:39:42 school board.
10:39:45 University of Tampa, Tampa downtown partnership,
10:39:47 Westshore alliance, the greater Chamber of Commerce,
10:39:52 World Trade Center of Tampa Bay.
10:39:54 A lot of organizations who aren't here.
10:39:57 I wanted them all to come and give a presentation, but
10:40:00 Charlie wouldn't let me.
10:40:01 He said we only have two hours.
10:40:03 And all these guys are so passionate about what they do
10:40:07 that they would all have hour-long presentations to
10:40:10 tell you about what they are doing.
10:40:12 We are going to hear today from a handful of them.
10:40:15 We have the Tampa Hillsborough economic Development
10:40:18 Corporation is here, and they are a primary partner in
10:40:22 job attraction and job growth.
10:40:24 And they are going to be talking to you.
10:40:26 Then wave the Tampa Bay partnership that's going to
10:40:28 provide a regional focus.
10:40:30 University of South Florida, just one piece of that
10:40:33 organization and how they help in the community on the
10:40:36 small business front is here.
10:40:38 And then we have Hillsborough County, who we partner
10:40:41 with across many different programs with us to speak.
10:40:47 Through all of this, we have as a city, and for the
10:40:51 benefit of the new council members, we use a particular
10:40:53 approach, a public-private partnership approach, that
10:40:56 not all communities use.
10:40:58 But in working with the Tampa Hillsborough economic
10:41:02 Development Corporation, and the Tampa Bay partnership,
10:41:05 we have chosen a particular style and model.
10:41:08 We do not have in the city a large staff within the
10:41:12 city that does day to day work in job attraction and
10:41:16 job growth other than myself and the work that we do
10:41:22 with the EDC and the Tampa Bay partnership, and how
10:41:25 some of my staff, as now work in redevelopment, they
10:41:28 spend a portion of their time working with these
10:41:30 organizations in various ways.
10:41:32 We have taken an intentional approach of rather than
10:41:37 isolating our dollars ourselves within the city, of
10:41:42 leveraging them in a public-private partnership, and
10:41:45 the private sector comes along side our public dollars
10:41:47 and matches at least one to one, and so we get a
10:41:51 leveraging of our dollars.
10:41:52 And we get a great deal of private sector marketing
10:41:57 We get a responsiveness to client demand on things.
10:42:00 We try to be responsive in the public sector, but we
10:42:03 are not -- we don't function in responsiveness to a
10:42:06 private sector level.
10:42:07 And we get that in working with our private
10:42:11 And the other benefit of working that way is we get all
10:42:14 the stakeholders, all of the public-private
10:42:17 stakeholders working together.
10:42:18 So those are some of the frame works that really at the
10:42:25 highest level affect the way the City of Tampa has been
10:42:27 going about it, the economic development businesses,
10:42:31 and I know with the new mayor and new council, I still
10:42:34 think these are still the kind of 10,000-foot
10:42:40 principles that will continue to shape the work ware
10:42:42 With that I would like to bring up now Keith Nordham.
10:42:49 Actually, Rhea is here, chairman of the board,
10:42:53 volunteer, although she doesn't feel like that some
10:42:56 days, the volunteer chairperson of the board for the
10:42:59 Tampa Hillsborough Economic Corporation.
10:43:05 >> Rhea Law.
10:43:08 I'm delighted to be here as the chair of the
10:43:10 Tampa-Hillsborough economic Development Corporation and
10:43:13 share with you just a few things that we are doing,
10:43:16 giving you a little background on our mission, our
10:43:20 focus, and also some indications of where we are going
10:43:23 from here.
10:43:23 And Here we go. First, let's just start with vision.
10:43:35 It is to be the lead economic development organization
10:43:39 for the City of Tampa, the city of Temple Terrace, the
10:43:42 city of Plant City, and for Hillsborough County.
10:43:46 And as such, to unite the leadership.
10:43:49 And I think what you are going to find as we go further
10:43:52 in this presentation, that we have been able to pull
10:43:56 together the mayors of the City of Tampa, Temple
10:43:59 Terrace, Plant City, as well as the chair of the board
10:44:01 of "commission, to come together and speak with one
10:44:04 If there's one thing we have learned about economic
10:44:06 development, it's that if you do not speak
10:44:08 consistently, that you confuse the people you are
10:44:11 trying to bring to your community.
10:44:12 And so having this forum to have bring together those
10:44:15 individuals who talk about, we are open for business,
10:44:19 we are bringing jobs here, and making sure that we are
10:44:21 all saying the same thing is extremely important.
10:44:26 Moving onto our mission.
10:44:27 There's a lot of things on this page.
10:44:29 Let me just draw your attention to a couple of things.
10:44:32 We identify and go after targeted industries worldwide.
10:44:37 So we are going to talk about local prospecting
10:44:40 throughout the nation.
10:44:41 But we are also going to talk about what we are doing
10:44:44 international, a very important part of what our focus
10:44:48 In addition, we look for businesses.
10:44:51 We look for capital investment.
10:44:53 And most importantly we look at jobs.
10:44:56 We have a contract with you, actually, and we also have
10:44:59 a contract with the city -- I mean with Hillsborough
10:45:01 County that has a specific scope of work and talks
10:45:05 about the number of jobs that we are responsible for
10:45:07 bringing to this community, and the level of those
10:45:11 And so that's something we take seriously because it is
10:45:14 a contract between us and with you.
10:45:17 We also are responsible for research.
10:45:19 How do we identify who the right clusters are and
10:45:23 identify who the emerging clusters are so that we are
10:45:25 ready for that next wave, that next move, to bring
10:45:28 those kind of jobs here, and make sure we are ready for
10:45:31 Finally, it's to promote policies amongst all of our
10:45:35 partners that resolve impediments to economic
10:45:42 I can tell you there are many things that cause people
10:45:44 concern when they come to a community.
10:45:48 They have a long checklist of questions and we need to
10:45:52 make sure we answer each of those positively, directly
10:45:55 and make sure we recognize what a great place this is
10:45:58 to bring their individual businesses.
10:46:00 As far as governance, this is currently your officers,
10:46:06 serving as the chair this year.
10:46:07 Following me will be Gordon Gillette, president of
10:46:10 Tampa Electric and peoples gas.
10:46:12 After them will be Dave Pizzo, for Blue Cross Blue
10:46:19 So we have a good lineup.
10:46:20 More importantly, this is our Executive Committee.
10:46:22 We have 21 companies on this Executive Committee.
10:46:25 And part of the things we are going to talk about in a
10:46:27 moment is that as we were setting up the EDC, we
10:46:31 identified we needed private sector investment.
10:46:35 To serve our on the Executive Committee is a commitment
10:46:38 of $25,000 a year.
10:46:40 And so people that you see here have either done that
10:46:43 or more, and they are interested in economic
10:46:46 development which makes them wonderful partners for the
10:46:51 public sector.
10:46:52 This is the rest of our Executive Committee, so you get
10:46:56 a view of who we have on the board.
10:46:58 And then we have a Board of Directors.
10:47:00 And this is a level of $10,000.
10:47:03 And these individuals have all come forward, and they
10:47:07 are very engaged, and I'm very happy to tell you at the
10:47:10 very first meeting that we had, we had between our
10:47:14 Board of Directors and Executive Committee, we had over
10:47:17 55 people there, and they are all focused on how do we
10:47:20 move forward?
10:47:21 How do we bring more jobs here?
10:47:23 The governor came and said, my whole focus is on
10:47:27 bringing jobs to the State of Florida, and we want to
10:47:30 make sure we leverage off of those efforts.
10:47:32 There's money available for that, and we want to make
10:47:35 sure we are right there with them.
10:47:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: Can I ask you a question?
10:47:41 Is there a reason why the chair of the City Council is
10:47:43 not represented on this committee?
10:47:48 I see representation from everywhere else.
10:47:50 >> As we set it up, we set it up with the mayors of the
10:47:53 city and the chair of the Board of County
10:47:56 Certainly, if you wanted to attend some of these
10:47:59 meetings, that would be great.
10:48:01 We are all in this together.
10:48:02 I mean, we are working on this together.
10:48:05 Butt there's something else I want to be address.
10:48:07 And that is our public-private collaborative where we
10:48:10 are bringing in individuals from the cities and the
10:48:12 county with our private sector to look at how we work
10:48:16 That might be a better place.
10:48:18 But certainly something we could talk about.
10:48:21 >>FRANK REDDICK: Okay.
10:48:22 >> Rhea Law: Coming to planning.
10:48:28 We all have plans.
10:48:29 And we have a plan here that has been put together over
10:48:32 the last year of looking at our clusters, looking at
10:48:37 how we are going to bring people together.
10:48:41 And you will see that while we were doing this, we
10:48:44 talked to all of our stakeholders.
10:48:46 Let me just give you a general idea.
10:48:48 We had over 150 interviews.
10:48:50 We spent a great amount of time involved with that,
10:48:53 with a company called Dickens Lacey Shapiro, they
10:48:59 brought to us a plan which was adopted for us to move
10:49:01 forward and to identify those various clusters.
10:49:04 So we have local governments, partners that were
10:49:08 involved, our strategic partners, our business leaders,
10:49:13 as well as local employers.
10:49:16 Specifically, let me just mention, we talk to all the
10:49:19 public officials, we talked to the business and civic
10:49:21 community leaders, we talked to the port, airport,
10:49:25 University of South Florida, all of our education
10:49:27 partners which would include Hillsborough County school
10:49:28 board, university of Tampa, Hillsborough community
10:49:32 We wanted to make sure that we were looking at
10:49:34 everything that was out there so we could identify what
10:49:37 we could best lead with it.
10:49:40 With that in mind, we have 12 round tables taking all
10:49:43 the clusters, academic, agricultural, Chamber of
10:49:47 Commerces, commercial real estate, our creative
10:49:49 workforce, how are we growing, small business
10:49:53 transportation, the list goes on and on.
10:49:55 But we wanted to make sure that it was inclusive.
10:49:58 And the results of that was these broad clusters that
10:50:01 have been identified as the places where we can have
10:50:04 the most impact in spending our few dollars that we
10:50:08 have on economic development.
10:50:11 Medicine and medical management, biotechnology,
10:50:14 financial services, cross-business functions which
10:50:16 includes I.T., and enabling functions, defense and
10:50:21 security brings in what's happening with MacDill
10:50:23 Air Force Base, alternate energy, agri-business,
10:50:28 hospitality and entertainment is huge, as is
10:50:32 We then made sure that we had a contract, not only with
10:50:36 the City of Tampa and with Hillsborough County, but
10:50:38 also with our private partners.
10:50:41 And I will just hold up for you, this is essentially
10:50:45 the contract that we have made with our private
10:50:49 We have said to them that we are going to look at six
10:50:53 different strategies.
10:50:54 They are business recruitment, and we have very
10:50:57 specific criteria that we will meet.
10:50:59 35 new targeted companies, or 6,000 new jobs with an
10:51:03 average wage at and about 115% of Florida's average.
10:51:11 Business retention and expansion.
10:51:13 That's to take care of the businesses who are already
10:51:15 here making sure they are successful, and more
10:51:17 importantly giving them opportunities to expand.
10:51:20 Our national and global marketing.
10:51:22 We do a lot of marketing in the Tampa Bay partnership
10:51:25 and you will be hearing about that in a few moments.
10:51:27 However, it's important to us that we identify what
10:51:32 specifically we have here within the realm of
10:51:35 Hillsborough County and our included municipalities.
10:51:39 I already talked about that, how we identify our top
10:51:42 100 that we will go after.
10:51:44 Business climate.
10:51:45 That's the public-private collaborative that I was
10:51:48 talking about a moment ago where we have
10:51:50 representatives in the public sector and private sector
10:51:52 doing away with those impediments so that we can be
10:51:56 And finally to make sure that we have a strong
10:51:58 leadership succession moving forward.
10:52:02 I want to give you a view of what we have done from a
10:52:04 financial perspective.
10:52:06 When we started this early on, the public sectors put
10:52:12 together about 70% of the funding for what was then the
10:52:16 Committee of 100.
10:52:17 The Committee of 100 actually was established in 1954.
10:52:21 The EDC was really December 16th of last year, and
10:52:27 we focused on the fact that if the private sector was
10:52:30 going to have a voice and a focus and a real job, then
10:52:34 they should also bear some of the costs of putting this
10:52:38 And what we have been able to do so far of the $788,000
10:52:43 that we received from the public sector now, that is
10:52:47 money from Hillsborough County, from here, the City of
10:52:50 Tampa, also Temple Terrace and Plant City, we have now
10:52:53 raised almost $1 million from the private sector, and
10:52:56 that's just in the last four months.
10:52:58 So we are moving quickly so that we can hire the people
10:53:02 to be proactive and go after these various businesses
10:53:05 that are important.
10:53:06 Now, why is that important, and is that the right
10:53:10 Let me give you one graph which will show we are way
10:53:14 down there to the right in purple.
10:53:16 This actually was when we were at 1.4, and that was
10:53:21 about a month ago, and we have been raising money lake
10:53:24 crazy since then as you can tell.
10:53:26 Still, as you can see, we turned that percentage upside
10:53:30 The private sector is now the largest investor in
10:53:33 economic development.
10:53:34 And they are focused on making sure that this community
10:53:37 can grow and prosper, and proffer these to do what we
10:53:43 can do.
10:53:44 With that I am going to turn you over to our president
10:53:46 and CEO Keith Norden to talk better the specific
10:53:49 services and some of the things that we are currently
10:53:51 working on.
10:53:53 Thank you very much.
10:53:59 >> Good morning.
10:54:00 It an honor to be in front of City Council.
10:54:02 I have met several of you.
10:54:05 And you know much about the EDC.
10:54:08 I'm very proud to be a Tampa resident and also to lead
10:54:16 the EDC to market Tampa Bay.
10:54:18 First, I would like to go into our services.
10:54:35 I can go on with that slide.
10:54:37 Mark, if you will try to look at the slides.
10:54:39 I did want to tell you about our services at the EDC.
10:54:42 We have both preservices and post decision services for
10:54:50 our prospect.
10:54:52 Some of those predecision services would be identifying
10:54:54 sites, researching workforce friends trends, responding
10:54:58 to RFIs or FFPs, arranging employer interviews, and
10:55:04 one of the most important things is to obtain and help
10:55:06 negotiate incentives, both from enterprise Florida and
10:55:10 the City of Tampa, and Hillsborough County.
10:55:13 Post-decision, we never forget companies once they
10:55:17 We work with them after they decide to provide ramp-up
10:55:22 and workforce component is so important in locations.
10:55:27 We help relocating employees with their move.
10:55:30 We coordinate familiarization tours of the area and
10:55:35 facilitate training programs.
10:55:39 And those are some of our services that I have been
10:55:43 talking about.
10:55:45 Let me just remained you that all of the inquiries in
10:55:48 our projects are confidential.
10:55:52 All of our work is confidential.
10:55:54 And customized and designed to be relevant to the
10:55:59 client's needs.
10:56:01 Next, one of the most important components is research.
10:56:06 And we have a full research department with a director
10:56:09 of research as well as a research analyst who
10:56:13 frequently update economic indicators, quarterly cost
10:56:20 of living components and other MSA unemployment rate
10:56:24 comparisons, and annually, of course, Tampa
10:56:27 Hillsborough's demographics.
10:56:29 These are so important when companies are looking at
10:56:31 our area and trying to determine whether this is a God
10:56:36 All of our data is posted on our Web site, and I
10:56:41 welcome you to view that at your convenience.
10:56:46 Next I want to just do a snapshot of some of the
10:56:49 achievements and accomplishments we have had since
10:56:51 January of this year.
10:56:55 First of all, I would like to start with international,
10:56:57 because the mayor's key role with COPA airlines meeting
10:57:04 just a few weeks ago, when we had a collaborative
10:57:08 effort that involved the EDC, South Trust bank, the
10:57:13 port of Tampa, and Tampa International Airport.
10:57:16 And we took several business leaders who had an
10:57:20 interest, but Mayor Buckhorn was the actual keynote
10:57:26 speaker at a meeting, very important meeting we had
10:57:29 with COPA airlines.
10:57:32 Other outbound missions, chief among them and most
10:57:36 exciting is a meeting to Canada in two weeks, Stuart
10:57:46 with Tampa Bay partnership and I will be going up with
10:57:48 the governor.
10:57:49 Right now we have 20 appointments scheduled with
10:57:51 Montreal-based companies and Toronto-based companies.
10:57:55 Governor will also do a keynote speech at a luncheon
10:57:59 held in Montreal.
10:58:01 Enterprise Florida is also planning a key Florida
10:58:05 mission to Brazil in October.
10:58:06 And they are also going to do an EDO, economic
10:58:12 development organization mission to London in
10:58:15 Now, we always participate in enterprise Florida's
10:58:18 missions, as well as the missions, consultant mission
10:58:21 was the Tampa Bay partnership.
10:58:24 However, we have our own missions.
10:58:26 And one that is planned is either to Mexico or the
10:58:31 Dominican Republic, either in December or January.
10:58:33 And we will be working in concert with the port of
10:58:36 Tampa, as well as enterprise Florida and the U.S.
10:58:39 commercial service.
10:58:40 As I am speaking about the port of Tampa, the port of
10:58:43 Tampa is an international, huge draw for our region,
10:58:48 along with Tampa International Airport, and we work
10:58:51 very collaboratively with those two strategic partners,
10:58:57 and those are our keys to international in this area.
10:59:03 For instance, we are very proud that the port has
10:59:06 container service, it's expanded, but we also tray to
10:59:10 enlarge that and try to help recruit other container
10:59:13 lines to the port.
10:59:16 For instance, inbound missions, we have a Colombia
10:59:21 mission coming in next month through the
10:59:24 Tampa-Hillsborough international protocol office as
10:59:28 well as we are sponsoring a reception for the east
10:59:32 training squadron visiting the port of Tampa.
10:59:34 We are working with the city and the county to host,
10:59:39 and many of you, of course, will be involved in that.
10:59:43 We are hosting a town hall meeting where we bring
10:59:45 international speakers of interest.
10:59:47 That will be done in December.
10:59:49 And so far this year, we have been doing seminars on
10:59:55 doing business or operating businesses in Spain,
10:59:58 Portugal, Chile, Peru, doing that in concert with the
11:00:03 U.S. commercial service and enter praise Florida.
11:00:08 Vanessa, which is a show that occurs every March in
11:00:11 Germany, focused on meeting advanced manufacturers, and
11:00:18 we are of course, you know, that was a great way for me
11:00:25 to identify German manufacturers, and manufacturers
11:00:28 from the continent that might have an interest in
11:00:31 And, in fact, later this afternoon, I have a meeting
11:00:34 with Dr. Baza with the American chamber in New York
11:00:38 City to talk about collaborating with the German
11:00:41 American chamber as we form our own staff with mission
11:00:46 to Germany later this year.
11:00:48 So Germany is definitely on the radar for the airport
11:00:52 and for us as well as other countries in Europe, as
11:00:55 well as Latin America.
11:00:58 That just makes sense for us.
11:01:02 Also, the staff of the foreign trade zone 79, we serve
11:01:07 their board, and it is housed in their office.
11:01:11 Next I want to talk about our project activity.
11:01:14 This year it's been a year of increase.
11:01:17 We opened 35 projects compared to 14 this time last
11:01:23 So we really have seen an uptick of business.
11:01:26 We closed 11 projects representing almost 1 that you
11:01:31 970 jobs.
11:01:32 And that will be at full ramp-out when they come online
11:01:37 with an average wage of 50,659.
11:01:43 What's exciting is we do have several stellar projects
11:01:48 in the pipeline.
11:01:49 We have five going through the incentive process, or
11:01:53 some have already been through the incentive process
11:01:57 representing 368 jobs, and almost $100 million of
11:02:02 capital investment.
11:02:04 And then what is so great for me to report is business
11:02:09 and project activity is far greater than we have seen
11:02:13 in the last several years.
11:02:15 We are finally, we believe, we are finally coming out
11:02:18 of this downturn.
11:02:23 I have opened and qualified 50 projects so far this
11:02:27 We have responded to eight RFPs, and we have issued
11:02:31 14 project alerts, and had 40 conference calls, and 16
11:02:36 project visits so far this year.
11:02:38 And Tampa is a place where we believe that if our
11:02:43 clients see it and experience it and kick the dirt, we
11:02:46 have a good chance of them locating.
11:02:48 And I want to thank you for the opportunity to come in
11:02:51 front of you, and of course I'll be available for
11:02:55 questions after the workshop.
11:02:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: The clerk asked if you would put your
11:03:01 name on the record.
11:03:02 >> Of course.
11:03:02 Keith Norden with the Tampa Hillsborough EDC.
11:03:06 Thank you.
11:03:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
11:03:10 Yes, sir?
11:03:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: I had to raise a question to him now,
11:03:17 because by the end I may not be -- I'm getting old.
11:03:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Next to me, you're a young man.
11:03:25 >>FRANK REDDICK: I will just go ahead and wait.
11:03:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: All right.
11:03:30 You aren't going to age that much.
11:03:31 All right.
11:03:31 >>MARK HUEY: I was going to say, if you had a question
11:03:38 specifically for Mr. Norden, he has an airplane to
11:03:41 It would be good to do that if there was just a
11:03:44 question before he left.
11:03:47 Would you like to ask?
11:03:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Reddick.
11:03:50 I hope you catch that airline.
11:03:51 They move kind of quick.
11:03:52 >> And it an important meeting.
11:03:58 Arranged before this meeting.
11:03:59 >>FRANK REDDICK: When you talk about all these
11:04:02 projects that you are working on, and I look at the
11:04:06 economic indicators, how many of those projects that
11:04:11 you are looking at has an opportunity to be located in
11:04:16 either East Tampa, West Tampa?
11:04:20 >> Well, it depends.
11:04:22 I would have to get the project activity log out
11:04:24 because we are working on so many.
11:04:25 But usually the average is one or two or three positive
11:04:30 projects that we locate in the city.
11:04:34 And I can come back to you with those firm numbers.
11:04:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: I appreciate that.
11:04:40 Thank you.
11:04:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
11:04:46 >> Thank you so much.
11:04:50 My pleasure.
11:04:50 >> Good morning.
11:05:01 My name is Stuart Rogel, president and CEO of Tampa Bay
11:05:05 Partnership and it's my pleasure to be here today to
11:05:07 continue the conversation and dialogue about economic
11:05:09 development and job creation in the City of Tampa and
11:05:13 throughout Hillsborough County and in the entire Tampa
11:05:15 Bay region, which the Tampa Bay partnership serves.
11:05:20 I have got some slides I would like to share with you
11:05:22 as well.
11:05:23 This may be death by PowerPoint this morning, and we
11:05:25 apologize for that.
11:05:26 But I will try to walk through these as quickly as I
11:05:29 can, so we will have time for questions and answers.
11:05:33 The Tampa Bay partnership works at a regional level, as
11:05:37 Mr. Huey indicated.
11:05:38 This is a team sport, and Mr. Norden referred to how we
11:05:45 work together at the city, the county, the regional,
11:05:47 and I will even touch a little about the super regional
11:05:50 and the state level, too, and how we use that really to
11:05:54 leverage our investments, maximize our opportunities,
11:05:57 and as was stated before, be able to participate in the
11:06:05 state and local economy.
11:06:06 Within the Tampa Bay region, the region of the Tampa
11:06:07 Bay partnership serves is eight counties, over 6500
11:06:14 square miles.
11:06:15 Just to give you an indication, it's larger than three
11:06:17 states in the union.
11:06:19 Over 4 million people, a labor force of 1.9 million and
11:06:24 the 14th largest market in the United States.
11:06:29 I put some of those numbers up.
11:06:30 Not only to see the geography but also to understand
11:06:33 why we work at a regional level, but so that you can
11:06:37 see working together there's strength in numbers.
11:06:40 We'll talk a little more about that, how working
11:06:42 regionally provides that strength in numbers and
11:06:45 provides resources that aren't obtainable on a
11:06:49 community by community basis, collectively are very
11:06:52 obtainable and variable to all the communities in the
11:06:56 Tampa Bay region.
11:06:56 This represents just a collection of some of the
11:07:00 organizations that are members of the Tampa Bay
11:07:02 partnership, or what we call investors.
11:07:05 There's over 106 investors around the legion that make
11:07:10 up the Tampa Bay partnership.
11:07:11 You see some of the logos there.
11:07:12 And we'll talk about some of the leadership in a
11:07:15 But what I direct your attention to is that grayed-in
11:07:19 area in the middle, the map that I just put up.
11:07:22 And in that grayed area are the logos for all the
11:07:25 economic development organizations from within the
11:07:29 counties that are part of the Tampa Bay region.
11:07:30 So, for example, in Hillsborough County, the Tampa
11:07:34 Hillsborough economic Development Corporation,
11:07:36 Hillsborough County, the City of Tampa, are all our
11:07:39 partners, all involved in there, and likewise in each
11:07:42 one of the counties there's representative
11:07:44 organizations that serve the counties and the cities
11:07:46 and work together as an economic development unit to be
11:07:50 able to promote and market the Tampa Bay region.
11:07:59 Just very quickly.
11:08:03 Our leadership team, our chair is John Shuler, the
11:08:06 president and CEO of media general, "The Tampa Tribune"
11:08:11 and NewsChannel 8.
11:08:13 Vinny Dolan, our vice chair, Progress Energy, will take
11:08:19 over in November.
11:08:20 And then chuck Sykes from Sykes enterprises is our
11:08:23 secretary-treasurer and will be our leader in two
11:08:26 And we are excited about that leadership line-up.
11:08:28 The point of this is we have many of the CEOs from
11:08:31 many of the larger corporations from around the region
11:08:34 who are actively engaged in what we do at the Tampa Bay
11:08:39 Just as mark talked about how there are many rolls that
11:08:45 make up the business we call economic development, the
11:08:49 Tampa Bay partnership has gone through an evolution and
11:08:51 change as well.
11:08:53 In 1994 when it started, we were the organization that
11:08:57 marketed the Tampa Bay region.
11:08:58 We determined what trade shows we were going to
11:09:01 participate in with our economic development partners,
11:09:04 what magazines and publications we were going to
11:09:07 advertise in, how we were going to sell the message,
11:09:10 how we were going to promote and market the Tampa Bay
11:09:12 With the business leadership that weighed, we found we
11:09:15 needed to convene on issues that were of importance
11:09:18 that affect economic development and business and job
11:09:22 Things like transportation, education, water, and
11:09:25 workforce were things that the business community
11:09:27 wanted to come together on, on a regional basis.
11:09:30 And that led to advocating for some specific solutions
11:09:34 through some of those initiatives.
11:09:36 And we will talk about those in a little bit.
11:09:38 And then ultimately led to Wan we call a leadership
11:09:41 role in how we move forward on a regional basis to grow
11:09:46 prosperity and jobs in our economy.
11:09:49 And this represent it is model for prosperity.
11:09:51 I am not going to spend a lot of time on this, but it's
11:09:54 really sort of a construct for why we do all the things
11:09:57 that we do at the Tampa Bay partnership.
11:10:00 At the top of the model is prosperity for our
11:10:03 In order to achieve prosperity you have to have growth.
11:10:05 And as was discussed, that's productive, conclusive and
11:10:10 sustainable growth.
11:10:11 And all of those things have to be in balance in order
11:10:13 to be able to be prosperous.
11:10:16 But we really can't address those issues on a local or
11:10:20 even regional level.
11:10:21 You have to focus what are those drivers of the
11:10:24 economy, innovation, human capital, infrastructure and
11:10:28 quality places.
11:10:29 Those are things we work on every day at the Tampa Bay
11:10:31 partnership and the region to work on to be able to
11:10:35 address those issues so we can create jobs for our
11:10:38 I am going to touch on a couple of these very quickly.
11:10:40 And I know this is a discussion about how to create
11:10:42 jobs in Tampa and in our region.
11:10:45 So I will spend a little bit more time on the second
11:10:49 item there, which we call the blueprint for economic
11:10:52 But we work on four different things.
11:10:53 A vision for regional prosperity.
11:10:55 Some of you have participated in the one-day
11:10:59 We have looked at how should we grow in the future,
11:11:02 what are the opportunities for growth, where would the
11:11:05 housing be, where will the residents be, where will
11:11:08 employees be, and how do we connect these areas in
11:11:11 transportation and transit and make sure that we are
11:11:14 really growing in a way we want to.
11:11:16 We also are building visions around education, which we
11:11:18 call life-long learning and health, or healthy
11:11:22 communities, both very important drivers to our
11:11:24 A blueprint for economic development of jobs.
11:11:27 And I'll touch on that, come back to that in a second,
11:11:29 because I want to spend some time on how we do that.
11:11:32 Transportation strategy for regional transit.
11:11:35 We continue to be the business community advocates
11:11:38 along with many others in how we address the trends
11:11:41 ands needs of our community.
11:11:42 And we continue to support those initiatives until we
11:11:45 find a solution that will allow our communities to be
11:11:48 able to connect together.
11:11:49 And then advocacy and leadership both at the public and
11:11:53 the private level is key to all of this, no matter
11:11:55 whether we are in the city, the county or in the
11:11:57 How do we have the right leadership focused on the
11:12:00 right issues and addressing the right -- taking the
11:12:03 right actions to address those issues.
11:12:06 So this is our regional visions, I talked about one
11:12:09 day, on the left is the -- we now have a regional
11:12:13 vision for land use and development in the Tampa Bay
11:12:15 region in the eight counties.
11:12:17 And on the right, our most recent initiative, healthy
11:12:21 communities, and assessment, research piece write is in
11:12:25 your document, your package on how healthy is Tampa Bay
11:12:28 and how can we create a future vision for a more
11:12:31 healthy community.
11:12:34 TBARTA is absolutely critical to what we are doing
11:12:39 going forward.
11:12:39 And continuing the education component of why transit
11:12:43 and transportation is important.
11:12:46 A new Web site Tampa Bay ontrack continues to talk
11:12:50 about and educate the community on why transit is an
11:12:52 important economic development quality of life,
11:12:55 prosperity driver.
11:13:00 And then leadership as we talked about, within those
11:13:03 eight counties, we have 25% of the legislative
11:13:05 delegation formed in the bay area, legislative
11:13:09 If we can work together as a delegation, there's many
11:13:11 things we can do together for our communities to
11:13:14 benefit that.
11:13:15 And then engaging leaders at the business level, and
11:13:21 the city and county level, so that they are actively
11:13:24 involved, and we call it the rolls for engagement.
11:13:28 How can you and others get involved?
11:13:30 We use that involvement to be able to grow the region,
11:13:33 and to address the issues we are facing.
11:13:36 Very quickly.
11:13:37 We also learned that we are connected to our neighbors
11:13:40 to the east, talked about people in the Tampa Bay
11:13:44 region, talked about how large the economy is, when you
11:13:47 look at the connections between Tampa Bay and central
11:13:49 Florida, and we think about how we travel that corridor
11:13:53 all the time, we are the ninth largest, we said the
11:13:57 10th but we have grown to the ninth largest economy
11:14:00 in the country.
11:14:01 When you think about connecting to south Florida, we
11:14:04 are also the 15th largest economy in the world.
11:14:06 So again we can compete at a global level if we think
11:14:10 about how we connect to our neighbors all around us.
11:14:14 Let's talk about jobs and what we are doing to advance
11:14:16 jobs in the Tampa Bay region.
11:14:18 And I'll talk about some of the things we do to support
11:14:20 our economic development partners, like the Tampa
11:14:23 Hillsborough economic development council, and also
11:14:26 talk about things we are looking at at a regional level
11:14:29 to understand how we can grow the jobs of the future.
11:14:33 I mention that we started out as a market being
11:14:36 organization, and we continue to market the Tampa Bay
11:14:39 Again with our partners.
11:14:41 Mr. Norden touched on some of the things that we are
11:14:44 working together.
11:14:45 Butt we continue to promote the region through the
11:14:48 publications we produced, the information we provide,
11:14:51 and the trade shows and the consultant missions that we
11:14:54 show up on, to tell the story about Tampa Bay and the
11:14:57 communities of Tampa Bay that make up the region.
11:15:02 We also support our partners, businesses and colleges,
11:15:06 a variety of different things that we provide,
11:15:08 everything from helping with requests for information
11:15:12 for prospects that are considering an expansion of
11:15:15 location, information about companies, who they are,
11:15:18 what they are made up of, information about the
11:15:21 industries that we are targeting to grow, looking at
11:15:24 targeted industry lists to be able to promote and to
11:15:27 recruit against, demographic reports, market data,
11:15:31 materials for collateral and marketing collateral, and
11:15:34 even looking at form directed opportunities and looking
11:15:40 at the Tampa Bay region from around the globe.
11:15:43 One of the things we produced to check in and how are
11:15:46 we doing, and how is the economy growing relative to on
11:15:51 the regions around the country, is what we call our
11:15:53 regional economic scorecard.
11:15:55 We have been producing this for about five years, and
11:15:57 we match up against six other communities to ask how
11:16:01 are we competing in those areas that are most important
11:16:03 to job creation and to a region's economy.
11:16:08 You can see from our latest scorecard, comparing
11:16:11 ourselves to Atlanta, Charlotte, Dallas, Jacksonville,
11:16:14 and rally Durham, and looking at categories like
11:16:18 employment, income, productivity, housing, innovation,
11:16:21 education, and transportation.
11:16:23 And just matching that up and just like our golf
11:16:27 scorecard from 1 to 6, how do we compare this those
11:16:31 Where -- where are we strong?
11:16:34 Where do we need to have our competitive so we want to
11:16:38 be first or second, not fifth or sixth in the rankings,
11:16:43 and how can we work to improve those rankings?
11:16:46 And we all know that we suffered a severe economic
11:16:48 downturn, and in this region we have lost over 200,000
11:16:52 jobs from our peak almost five years ago, and you can
11:16:56 see the rankings, in green at the scorecard and see how
11:17:00 we have declined.
11:17:02 We were second in 2007.
11:17:04 We round up in the fifth and sixth place, and that's
11:17:08 not where want to be.
11:17:11 We want to go back to one of the best competitive
11:17:13 regions, and turning that job loss around, job gains
11:17:17 lake we have experienced in the past.
11:17:19 So what are we doing to address that?
11:17:20 We are looking at the jobs of tomorrow in the region.
11:17:24 Ware asking where are they going to come from?
11:17:26 What are they going to look like?
11:17:28 What do we as a community need to do to grow those
11:17:31 And how do we engage those community partners that can
11:17:34 help us to grow these jobs?
11:17:37 We looked at industry cluster analysis, and we think
11:17:40 this quote from Brookings Institute, It's a powerful
11:17:47 source of growth; new firm starts and quality jobs,
11:17:47 looking at the existing strengths and resources we have
11:17:47 in the region and saying how can we capitalize on those
11:17:47 existing strengths and take advantage of what we have
11:17:47 to grow and expand the job base in our region.
11:18:03 Cluster analysis helps to us look at this from not only
11:18:06 from a community perspective but it sparks significant
11:18:11 economic synergies throughout the clusters.
11:18:15 It's a relatively low cost, you are working at home to
11:18:21 help foster growth and development.
11:18:22 And it brings the community and businesses together to
11:18:25 say, how can we work together to address the challenges
11:18:28 that we face?
11:18:35 We matched that up with the information that Keith and
11:18:37 Rhea provided are high-tech electronics and industries,
11:18:42 applied medicine and human performance, marine
11:18:45 environmental activities, business, financial and data
11:18:48 There's a very nice fit between what is happening in
11:18:50 the City of Tampa, what is happening in Hillsborough
11:18:52 County, and what's happening in the region, the Tampa
11:18:55 Bay region in terms of these clusters.
11:18:58 So we are working together, and we are strengthening
11:19:00 and supporting each other, to focus on how do we create
11:19:04 jobs in clusters? We have also worked with how do we
11:19:08 do economic development and what are some of the things
11:19:10 we need to be thinking about and becoming better at to
11:19:14 address how do we grow those jobs and clusters? So we
11:19:18 look at things like how do we promote ourselves as a
11:19:20 more innovative, integrated regional economy, because
11:19:24 we are working together, and businesses do cross county
11:19:27 lines, and city lines, and we need to see ourselves as
11:19:31 one integrated economy.
11:19:32 We need to strengthen our innovation and
11:19:35 entrepreneurial systems.
11:19:36 That means working with the university, in the
11:19:38 incubators, small business development program, the
11:19:41 workforce boards, which I will touch on in a minute,
11:19:43 and many, many others to be able to strengthen how we
11:19:46 look at innovation, how we look at entrepreneurship in
11:19:49 our community.
11:19:50 And then strengthening and business retention
11:19:55 expansion, helping to support that at the regional
11:19:57 level, as we work with our local partners to work with
11:20:01 business expansion and retention.
11:20:03 Then our workforce.
11:20:04 How do we connect the dots between workforce and the
11:20:07 business community?
11:20:08 How do we increase the awareness of opportunity for the
11:20:12 existing in those targeted industries as I mentioned.
11:20:14 How do we provide more coordination and collaboration
11:20:18 together to share what's going on and share the
11:20:21 resources so we can grow those industries?
11:20:23 Those are all things that came from a recommendation
11:20:25 and a report that we have just accepted this week.
11:20:29 Many of you may have read about it.
11:20:32 It had significant coverage.
11:20:34 We are beginning to say, how, now how do we organize to
11:20:37 grow this region, focus our attention, and to create
11:20:39 the jobs that we need to create?
11:20:43 This is an example of how we are organized and how we
11:20:46 are going to move forward with implementation.
11:20:48 Looking at those industry clusters and organizing those
11:20:52 industry clusters together, organizing what's
11:20:54 particular important to them, and then taking that
11:20:56 information to address the workforce and the
11:20:59 foundational initiatives, and understanding the
11:21:02 specific items that we can undertake, specific
11:21:05 activities we can undertake to grow jobs in these
11:21:08 targeted industries.
11:21:09 We have been working on this for quite some time.
11:21:11 It starts with the regional strategic plan that we
11:21:15 developed in 2008.
11:21:17 We secured funding from the federal economic
11:21:19 development administration along with matching dollars
11:21:22 from our local economic development organizations and
11:21:25 workforce boards.
11:21:26 We worked with SRI international, a nationally known
11:21:32 organization in this area, and is also locate in the
11:21:34 Tampa Bay region.
11:21:35 One of their differentiations is currently here.
11:21:38 As I mentioned, we have just accepted the research this
11:21:40 week, and are moving forward with how do we implement
11:21:43 and focus our efforts in a regional level?
11:21:46 So what we said to everybody is we said how you can
11:21:50 help is to get involved and participate, to get
11:21:52 educated like we are doing today about the
11:21:54 opportunities for our region, and then to work with us
11:21:57 to collaborate to say what can we do to make the
11:22:01 difference and to grow those clusters and those jobs
11:22:03 within those industries.
11:22:05 That's a quick overview of the Tampa Bay partnership,
11:22:08 and I appreciate the time today.
11:22:09 I did leave some information with you in your packet.
11:22:14 And it explains in further detail the things that I
11:22:16 have covered here in our presentation.
11:22:19 And it talks a little bit about some of the tools like
11:22:22 the scorecard and the regional business plan, and I
11:22:25 would be more than happy to provide any other
11:22:27 information or answer any questions you might have.
11:22:31 So thank you very much for your time today and thank
11:22:33 you for your interest in this topic.
11:22:35 It's very, very important that he would all work
11:22:37 together on this.
11:22:38 Thank you.
11:22:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
11:22:41 Ms. Mulhern.
11:22:42 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
11:22:44 I wanted to bring up just business at the meeting,
11:22:48 anyone that had a question for him.
11:22:52 We have another item on the agenda, and I wanted to
11:22:54 make sure that we get this discussion in, because it's
11:22:59 very much time sensitive issue.
11:23:02 So I just wanted us to discuss what our plans were I
11:23:13 don't know how much longer this economic development is
11:23:17 going to take.
11:23:17 Item 7 the presentation -- I mean, item 6 will only
11:23:22 take 10, 15 minutes at the most.
11:23:24 If we could get that in.
11:23:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I would imagine that this is going
11:23:29 to go to 12 or 12:10.
11:23:31 That's why I was so anxious earlier to move the first
11:23:35 items we had on the agenda.
11:23:36 We didn't do that too expediently.
11:23:38 Let me say.
11:23:39 That I am not opposed to saying 10 or 15 minutes but I
11:23:42 will not go over 15 minutes past 12.
11:23:44 So I am letting you know now that I have other things
11:23:47 that I have to do, because I'm a diabetic, I have to go
11:23:51 >>MARY MULHERN: Perhaps, Mr. Huey, could you condense
11:23:57 the rest of your presentation so we could do that in
11:23:59 the next maybe 20 minutes.
11:24:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: The I don't mind going to 12.
11:24:05 This is very important.
11:24:06 So is the estuary program.
11:24:07 Because both of them really go hand in hand.
11:24:09 You can't have one without the other.
11:24:11 And the environment is certainly much of -- as much of
11:24:17 finding a workforce and creating good will and creating
11:24:21 nature, creating the best for all of us and everything
11:24:25 So we are going to do it.
11:24:26 If it's going to go over 15 minutes past 12:15, then
11:24:33 Mary has been polling us, you see it going left to
11:24:35 right and asking council members what their wishes
11:24:38 were, so I know what they are.
11:24:39 Continue, please.
11:24:42 >>MARK HUEY: Yes.
11:24:43 And we have our last two speakers.
11:24:45 We are shifting gears now.
11:24:46 You have kind of gotten the perspective of our main
11:24:49 public-private partner with the economic Development
11:24:53 Corporation, focusing on jobs for our city and our
11:24:57 Our regional perspective.
11:25:00 We appreciate you being here and the work that they are
11:25:02 I hope tough sense of the thoughtfulness and the
11:25:06 actions that are going on.
11:25:07 Now we are going to shift to the small business front.
11:25:10 And we have Eileen Rodriguez from the University of
11:25:13 South Florida small business development center.
11:25:16 We are going to talk about how her organization, and
11:25:20 gene gray is going to come up from the county and talk
11:25:23 about the work that we partnered with them.
11:25:25 We are helping entrepreneurs and small businesses grow
11:25:28 their businesses.
11:25:29 Eileen, welcome.
11:25:35 >> Thank you, mark, for this opportunity.
11:25:47 I appreciate your attention to this particular topic
11:25:49 which of course is near and dear to our hearts.
11:25:52 I also have a quick PowerPoint presentation so if that
11:25:56 could be loaded.
11:25:56 There it is.
11:25:57 Thank you very much.
11:25:58 My name is Eileen Rodriguez and I am the regional
11:26:01 director for the small business development center at
11:26:03 the University of South Florida.
11:26:05 And what I would like to do this morning is just touch
11:26:09 a little bit on what we do for small businesses in this
11:26:12 community, specifically for your community.
11:26:22 And you have my contact information.
11:26:25 And, of course, the data shows that small business is
11:26:27 incredibly important to our economy and I believe Mr.
11:26:30 Huey about that earlier in his presentation.
11:26:33 So again the data that I am showing on this particular
11:26:36 slide just goes to show how very important small
11:26:42 businesses are to our community.
11:26:44 And they employ the majority of the workforce.
11:26:46 And if you look at this particular slide, you can see
11:26:48 that the majority of employees are also employed by
11:26:51 small businesses as defined by the Small Business
11:26:56 And I'm going to go through this somewhat quickly to
11:27:00 make sure that are we meet your time constraints.
11:27:03 What I have done is I have presented some information
11:27:05 on Hillsborough County total amount of employees,
11:27:08 establishments, and the average employee size for small
11:27:12 businesses in Hillsborough County.
11:27:14 Which correlate very strongly to the information that
11:27:17 Mr. Huey gave when he introduced this topic.
11:27:21 And again you will see on this particular slide where
11:27:23 we have, again, the majority of businesses employing
11:27:29 less than 20 people in each of their businesses.
11:27:32 So it's really incumbent upon us to make sure that we
11:27:36 help these small businesses that we provide them the
11:27:40 infrastructure, the structure they need in order to
11:27:42 survive and grow, particularly in this economy.
11:27:44 Which is why Congress made sure that they took care of
11:27:49 that in establishing the small business development
11:27:54 What we do is we assist.
11:27:56 We provide technical assistance to small business
11:27:59 And we do than through a number of ways.
11:28:01 We do that through confidential one on one con
11:28:04 summiting with them.
11:28:05 We provide training programs.
11:28:06 And we also partner with many, many people within our
11:28:10 region to make sure that small businesses within our
11:28:13 community are aware of the services, mainly free
11:28:17 services that are available for them.
11:28:20 We have businesses at all stages.
11:28:23 Start-ups, certainly, but we also very much concentrate
11:28:27 on existing businesses.
11:28:28 And we help businesses throughout myriad different
11:28:32 So we are not specifically looking targeting just one
11:28:35 industry or two.
11:28:36 Really any small business in our community that needs
11:28:38 assistance is more than welcome to come to use our
11:28:43 Now, the small business development center is a
11:28:45 national program.
11:28:46 We are located in every single state, as well as all
11:28:49 the Commonwealths and territories of the United States.
11:28:52 And the ASBDC, association of small business
11:28:58 development centers was established in 1979 so we have
11:29:00 been operating over 30 years.
11:29:02 And obviously what we have done is across the nation we
11:29:05 have partnered with institutions of higher learning,
11:29:08 which is why most of the small business development
11:29:10 centers that you will find as you travel will be
11:29:12 located at either universities, state universities or
11:29:16 community colleges.
11:29:17 Of course, there are some exceptions, but for the most
11:29:20 part that's where they are located.
11:29:24 We are funded by the Small Business Administration.
11:29:26 We did get a grant every year to provide these
11:29:30 However, it is a matching grant.
11:29:31 So that's why we partner with so many people within the
11:29:34 community, because we do need to find funding in order
11:29:36 to leverage those federal dollars to be able to provide
11:29:39 these services.
11:29:41 On a statewide basis, this is just a quick map of how
11:29:48 we cover the entire State of Florida, and our section
11:29:54 is the gold section there in the middle, of course.
11:29:56 We cover ten counties at US -- at USF.
11:30:07 We opened our doors in 1908.
11:30:08 We serve a number of small businesses.
11:30:11 Our main headquarters is here in the City of Tampa,
11:30:13 located at the Tampa Port Authority building and we
11:30:15 have been there for over eleven years.
11:30:17 It just makes a lot more sense, although really we are
11:30:21 part of the University of South Florida, it makes more
11:30:22 sense for us to be located within the community, and to
11:30:25 be able to better serve our constituents.
11:30:28 And, again, the ten counties that we serve are listed
11:30:31 But once again we are headquartered in Tampa.
11:30:35 We have a staff of 34.
11:30:36 And of those 34, 23 are business consultants.
11:30:40 And they are located within their ten-county region.
11:30:45 We partner with quite a number of agencies, obviously
11:30:50 with the University of South Florida, with Polk County,
11:30:52 state college of Florida, which also houses one of our
11:30:55 offices down in Sarasota, Pinellas County, and of
11:30:59 course Hillsborough County, specifically the small
11:31:02 business information center which of course you are
11:31:03 going to be hearing about in a little bit.
11:31:08 So, again, the main services that we provide is the one
11:31:11 on one business con summiting for low-cost training
11:31:16 And we also have a -- we are rolling out a brand new
11:31:19 program called the growth acceleration program which is
11:31:22 funded by the jobs bill from the federal government,
11:31:28 and in this program we are targeting a very specific
11:31:33 level of client, if you will, clients that have a
11:31:36 minimum of $500,000 in their gross revenue and over
11:31:42 five employees.
11:31:43 And we are going to be working with them.
11:31:45 We are going to launch this program July 1st.
11:31:47 We are going to be working with them in a very deep way
11:31:52 to help them move forward, not just -- but to expand
11:32:02 and grow their businesses.
11:32:03 Now, most of our counselors on staff, in fact almost
11:32:07 every single one of them, have small business
11:32:09 experiences, all own small businesses in the past, and
11:32:14 all of us have a minimum degree, a degree in business,
11:32:17 and a bachelors, and again the majority of us do have
11:32:21 MBAs, and it's really that coupling of both the
11:32:25 practical and theoretical which allows us to provide a
11:32:30 very important service to small businesses in our
11:32:35 Now, the technical assistance that we provide is done
11:32:39 at no cost.
11:32:40 All people need to do is call and make an appointment
11:32:42 and come in and see us, and our front office staff will
11:32:47 direct them to the council, for direct training.
11:32:50 The technical assistance is really important however
11:32:53 when it's coupled with financial assistance.
11:32:56 When these companies receive loans, it's very important
11:33:00 for them not just to receive the money, which of course
11:33:02 is incredibly important for them in order to pros mer
11:33:05 and continue to grow, but also to receive the technical
11:33:07 assistance from us so that they are able to better
11:33:10 manage that money and better apply the money that they
11:33:13 have received, whether it's through an SBA loan or a
11:33:16 conventional loan.
11:33:20 The technical assistance that we provide drives down
11:33:23 the default rate on these loans, and that's been proven
11:33:27 time and time again.
11:33:28 So it's really important for us to partner also with
11:33:30 banks and with lending institutions and let them know
11:33:32 that these services are available to them as well, so
11:33:35 that they don't have to carry that burden by
11:33:38 And in the packets that I have given you, you have a
11:33:42 few trifold brochures that give a little more
11:33:46 information as to specifically what it is that we do.
11:33:49 We have a number of areas of expertise.
11:33:51 That's the way we structure our office.
11:33:53 We have people that specialize in government
11:33:56 contracting, helping small businesses determine which
11:33:59 legal structure they should be in, whether they are in
11:34:03 start-up or perhaps in a transition period.
11:34:06 We have a senior lender who happens to be with me
11:34:09 today, Jim Parrish.
11:34:10 He is my assistant director.
11:34:11 And he works very closely with banks and with our other
11:34:15 financial institutions to assist the small businesses.
11:34:18 Minority certification.
11:34:19 You can see we really do delve into every single aspect
11:34:25 of small business consulting, because again every small
11:34:29 business owner, regardless of what industry they are
11:34:31 in, they are going to need help in one of these areas
11:34:34 or several of these areas.
11:34:35 So we are very positive and very sure that we have
11:34:38 people on our staff that are there to help them in
11:34:40 these particular arenas.
11:34:43 One other things that I have provided you is our 2010
11:34:48 economic impact report, and the report only shows the
11:34:56 direct data that we received from probably 8% of our
11:35:01 clients, because we send out an annual survey, we
11:35:04 receive their data, and that's the data that we report.
11:35:07 So although the numbers are in process, they really are
11:35:11 only a fraction of what really happens out in the
11:35:14 We don't project total numbers.
11:35:16 So you won't see those projections.
11:35:18 We just give you the actual data that we receive.
11:35:22 We do a number of training events throughout the year.
11:35:25 You can see we almost did 500.
11:35:27 We had over 6,000 people attend those training events
11:35:30 in 2010.
11:35:32 And we have counseled over 3,000 small business owners.
11:35:39 One of the main issues here is that we really do look
11:35:43 at how we have been impacting these small businesses.
11:35:46 We had 154 small businesses, potential small business
11:35:50 owners in 2010 actually start their businesses, which
11:35:52 was again very good for the contained of year that we
11:35:55 had in 2010.
11:35:57 And, of course, job creation is a major factor in what
11:36:00 we do.
11:36:00 So we track that, and we try to capture that as much as
11:36:05 possible, job creation and job retention.
11:36:09 And the way we kind of look at this is that our job is
11:36:12 to help these small businesses increase their revenues.
11:36:16 If they increase their revenues, they are going to hire
11:36:19 And it's very important for us to really take those
11:36:22 small businesses and grow them within our community.
11:36:26 It's very important what the Tampa Hillsborough EDC is
11:36:29 doing, and we implement those efforts.
11:36:32 They bring in some of the larger businesses.
11:36:34 We take the businesses that are already here and
11:36:36 strengthen them so that they really become the backbone
11:36:38 of our economy.
11:36:40 And I condensed this a little bit.
11:36:43 I have gone through this somewhat quickly but I am
11:36:45 trying to keep track of your time.
11:36:47 So if you have any questions for me, please don't
11:36:49 hesitate to ask.
11:36:50 I really thank you for your attention.
11:36:52 I appreciate the opportunity to present to you this
11:36:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Any questions from council members
11:36:57 of Ms. Rodriguez?
11:36:58 Thank you so very much.
11:37:00 We really appreciate it.
11:37:00 Very informative.
11:37:04 Mr. Huey?
11:37:06 Who do we have next?
11:37:08 >> Gene gray, economic development director for
11:37:17 Hillsborough County.
11:37:18 Thank you for this opportunity to share with you today.
11:37:22 I, too, have a PowerPoint.
11:37:26 I didn't want to be showed up by my peers but I will
11:37:30 also go through this quickly.
11:37:31 I think this workshop today illustrates what a lot of
11:37:35 communities are going through during these tough
11:37:37 economic times and trying to better understand what we
11:37:40 can do, what we are doing, what we can do to be
11:37:43 proactive to help the business community.
11:37:45 That's a very valuable exercise for every community.
11:37:48 One of the topics that you hear a lot about these days
11:37:52 is related to the economic development and otherwise,
11:37:56 is the need for better cooperation and coordination
11:37:59 among local governments.
11:38:00 Well, I think part of what you have heard today
11:38:03 illustrated for you with regard to the economic
11:38:07 Development Corporation and the county and the city
11:38:09 partnership with them, that spans, I think, 15-plus
11:38:14 years where we have historically been, our two
11:38:16 governments have historically been the two largest
11:38:19 investors in that effort, that has been a partnership
11:38:22 between our two governments as well as the public
11:38:25 sector -- I mean the private sector.
11:38:29 On another front, which I am primarily here to talk
11:38:32 about today, is the partnership that Hillsborough
11:38:33 County and the City of Tampa have had over the past
11:38:36 seven years or so with regard to small business
11:38:41 development assistance.
11:38:42 And that dates back to a time where not this City
11:38:48 Council but a prior City Council was inquiring about
11:38:49 what needed to be done to bet area sift small
11:38:53 We had a fledgling program that was up and running, and
11:38:57 there was, I think, a wise decision to join our efforts
11:39:01 together to maximize and beverage the resources.
11:39:04 And that has been a strong commitment.
11:39:29 Council members, the economic development department
11:39:33 has four primary program areas including the
11:39:35 agriculture development, tourism development, corporate
11:39:38 development, and small minority business development.
11:39:42 I have with me today Brenda Amy, the manager
11:39:46 administrator of our small and minority business
11:39:48 development program, as well as lance Shultz, the
11:39:52 program manager for small business development, as well
11:39:55 as the enter praise zone administrator.
11:39:57 As you see on the screen, our mission -- and it is
11:40:00 focused on entrepreneurs, those that are seeking to
11:40:04 start up businesses or existing businesses and helping
11:40:06 them to grow their businesses within our community.
11:40:12 Our main office for this effort is the small business
11:40:15 information center which is located south of Temple
11:40:18 Terrace, off of 56th street, but we also have
11:40:21 satellite offices that are located in East Tampa, and I
11:40:25 will speak a little more about that in a moment, and
11:40:27 the Brandon Chamber of Commerce, as well as what in
11:40:33 effect are sat late offices, because of the wait that
11:40:35 we go about doing what we do.
11:40:37 We outreach into the community and conduct a lot of our
11:40:40 services in a variety of places such as libraries, and
11:40:45 community centers throughout the county.
11:40:49 This past year, we made 27,000 points of contact to
11:40:57 small businesses in our community.
11:40:58 If con craft if you go back ten years ago when this
11:41:03 truly was a place in program we had 2,000 points of
11:41:06 When I say points of contact, that represents
11:41:08 everything from a phone call from someone wanting to
11:41:11 get information to an in-depth full scale counseling
11:41:15 session, with a small business.
11:41:26 I have illustrated for you the resources that we have
11:41:28 available, the county provides base funding to our
11:41:30 program, that we utilize to provide these basic
11:41:36 We do work very hard to serve as an information
11:41:39 We provide MBE and SBE certification, counseling
11:41:45 sessions, we have a plans room in our small business
11:41:48 information center that is geared toward the
11:41:50 construction industry where we provide building plans
11:41:53 for contractors that they can utilize that to either
11:41:58 bid or provide bids as subcontractors, to contractors
11:42:02 on public construction projects.
11:42:04 We also provide computer assistance to them including
11:42:08 some software estimation -- software estimating
11:42:14 assistance for them.
11:42:25 We have a coalition of partners, is the way I like to
11:42:27 refer to the.
11:42:29 And we use this to leverage the resources that we do
11:42:32 And I'm proud to say that the City of Tampa, as well as
11:42:35 the USF small business development center, are our two
11:42:39 lead partners.
11:42:39 We couldn't do what we do and reach those 27,000 people
11:42:44 in our community without those partnerships.
11:42:47 And I want to thank Mark Huey, Ed Johnson, and Greg
11:42:52 Hart in particular.
11:42:55 They worked with us shoulder to shoulder on these
11:42:57 I won't go through the whole list.
11:42:59 But you see the list of the primary partners that we
11:43:01 work with throughout the county.
11:43:08 We have four interlocal agreements with the City of
11:43:11 The base agreement which dates back to the seven years
11:43:13 or so ago that I referenced earlier, and with that we
11:43:17 provide workshops throughout targeted areas of the City
11:43:21 of Tampa.
11:43:22 But we also administer your enterprise zone within the
11:43:26 city as well as the county's enter praise zone.
11:43:29 In addition to that, we have interlocal agreements with
11:43:33 regard to three of the CRAs in the City of Tampa.
11:43:37 Most recently approved a brand new initiative is the
11:43:40 Drew Park area, East Tampa, and Ybor City.
11:43:47 You see next is a list of the various workshops that we
11:43:51 provide, some of which we do at the small business
11:43:54 information center, some of which we do as indicated
11:43:57 earlier in the community, in the CRAs, and CDBG
11:44:02 targeted areas in the county and throughout
11:44:04 Hillsborough County.
11:44:07 Not shown on this list is business counseling, which is
11:44:10 a very important component of assisting small
11:44:14 That's everything from just basic counseling, trying to
11:44:17 inform the small business owner or perspective small
11:44:20 business owner about what they need to know in order to
11:44:22 start a business or grow a business, but everything to
11:44:26 more detailed counseling, including helping them to
11:44:29 create a business plan for their business, which would
11:44:33 include a marketing plan as well.
11:44:37 I reference the enter praise zone, and the fact that we
11:44:40 are administering enterprise zone for you.
11:44:42 That is a very effective tool for development, economic
11:44:46 development, and redevelopment in the community.
11:44:48 I will tell you, it's accretion of the federal
11:44:52 government and state government that does provide some
11:44:55 modest tools that effectively administrator, that can
11:44:58 make a difference in helping to bring about
11:45:00 redevelopment within those enter praise zones.
11:45:08 East Tampa is the CRA that we have the longest history
11:45:13 with, and we are very proud of that.
11:45:16 We have had satellite offices located here at least two
11:45:18 days a week.
11:45:19 We have a presence there in the sat late office which
11:45:21 is located of in the redevelopment office in East
11:45:25 We have established a resource library there as well as
11:45:28 conducting of workshops and counseling there.
11:45:33 Ybor City, we provide targeted assistance to
11:45:37 We do a lot of surveying of businesses in the Ybor City
11:45:40 area, and at the request of the Ybor City Development
11:45:45 Corporation, we have conducted two feasibility
11:45:49 analysis, phase one and phase two feasibility analysis
11:45:52 with, regard to potentially creating and establishing a
11:45:55 business incubator in Ybor City.
11:46:00 Drew Park as I mentioned is the newest focus of our
11:46:06 partnership with the City of Tampa, and you see that we
11:46:09 provide business to business contact and counseling, as
11:46:13 well as workshops there, and because of the
11:46:15 concentration of Spanish-speaking residents in that
11:46:18 area, we provide workshops there, as well as throughout
11:46:22 the county, both in English and in Spanish.
11:46:26 Council members, just kind of in summary with regard to
11:46:29 these efforts, we work very hard at being creative and
11:46:33 proactive, and finding partners wherever we can find
11:46:37 Resources are scarce on every front these days, so we
11:46:40 look for every opportunity to leverage the resources
11:46:43 that we have with our partners, and work very hard to
11:46:47 minimize and avoid duplication of our efforts on every
11:46:53 But I will tell you this.
11:46:54 What we do in Hillsborough County working with our
11:46:57 partners, including USF small business development
11:46:59 center, we are only touching the tip of the iceberg.
11:47:03 You look at those numbers that mark showed you in terms
11:47:05 of the numbers of businesses, small businesses in our
11:47:08 community, there are thousands of them out there that
11:47:11 have never heard of us or never heard of USF, small
11:47:15 business development center.
11:47:18 We are constantly having new clients make contact with
11:47:21 us, and it's as if I didn't know you were here, and
11:47:26 they have no idea of the resources available to help
11:47:28 them that truly can help them grow their businesses.
11:47:31 I will close on this.
11:47:32 It's not directly related, but at the request of
11:47:35 Councilwoman Montelione, I wanted to share with you
11:47:37 some information about the county's small business job
11:47:42 creation program which was launched a little over a
11:47:44 month ago by the Board of County Commissioners.
11:47:48 Council members, this was an initiative that was
11:47:51 basically generated at the request of commissioner
11:47:54 Sandy Murman that spun off of a discussion about
11:47:58 incentive programs, and the fact that all of our
11:48:01 existing incentive programs, and jurors as well, are
11:48:04 typically focused on target industries, and typically
11:48:07 require a minimum of ten jobs in order to be eligible
11:48:10 for any form of assistance.
11:48:12 Recognizing, as we talked about before, the fact that
11:48:16 so many businesses in our community are not only small
11:48:19 businesses, very small businesses, but with ten or
11:48:23 fewer employees, but also they are not necessarily
11:48:26 target industries.
11:48:27 With unemployment in our community hovering at 10, 11,
11:48:32 12%, there's obviously a great need to help create and
11:48:36 establish jobs virtually at any level.
11:48:38 So this program was approved by the board, and has been
11:48:43 out for, as I said, a little over a month.
11:48:45 Virtually any small business is eligible as long as
11:48:47 they have ten or fewer employees, the business is
11:48:51 located in Hillsborough County.
11:48:52 We do require that they hire Hillsborough County
11:48:55 We pay half of the cost of each of those jobs for up to
11:49:00 three jobs, half of the cost of those jobs for three
11:49:05 months, and that cost is reimbursed to them on the back
11:49:07 end of the process, once they have completely gone
11:49:10 through and documented, verified that they have in fact
11:49:14 hired the employee.
11:49:16 There are a number of other requirements.
11:49:18 I won't get into all of that unless you have more
11:49:20 questions about it.
11:49:21 But I do think that given whereby we are in the local
11:49:25 economy, this is an effective tool to help local
11:49:28 businesses create jobs that might not otherwise be
11:49:32 created, or at least to speed up the creation of those
11:49:37 Mr. Chairman, that's all I have.
11:49:38 >> Thank you very much, Mr. Gray.
11:49:39 I really appreciate it and I know I have learned a lot
11:49:42 today just listening.
11:49:43 I didn't know that University of South Florida worked
11:49:47 so diligently.
11:49:49 I knew they were working hard to get.
11:49:50 This I didn't know they had created about 1660 new jobs
11:49:53 and create start-up of about 154 new businesses and 30
11:49:58 mill-some dollars and so forth and contracts awarded.
11:50:02 So I was happy to see that.
11:50:05 Reading and trying to come up with my own conclusion on
11:50:07 your job creation program.
11:50:09 And when you look at 3900 new jobs -- I mean $3900 new
11:50:14 jobs for three months. I try to calculate that on a
11:50:16 basis of what that yearly salary is.
11:50:19 And if you divide 3900 and you look at the numbers on
11:50:24 the creation of 40 hours, they must be Hillsborough
11:50:28 County residents, and I think you have to be in
11:50:30 business for, what, two years before you are qualified
11:50:32 to be there, so I am making an assumption, what is the
11:50:35 yearly average of those jobs based on $3,900 for each
11:50:41 new employee?
11:50:42 >> I don't have that exact number.
11:50:46 I can tell you.
11:50:47 This we came amount this from several different
11:50:48 directions to try to figure out how to structure it.
11:50:52 What we did was we set minimum wage as obviously the
11:50:57 We calculate the value of jobs up to the $3900 based on
11:51:04 an hourly rate of $17 per hour.
11:51:08 And so that's where we capped it.
11:51:18 Average about $15 an hour for these jobs.
11:51:20 This program as it currently stands has the potential
11:51:23 to create roughly 200 jobs in our community.
11:51:26 We have 29 businesses that are either approved or in
11:51:28 the process of being approved -- I'm sorry, 28
11:51:31 businesses with 63 jobs associated with those.
11:51:35 37 of those people are currently on the job.
11:51:39 Nine of those businesses are located within the City of
11:51:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you for those nine.
11:51:46 Thank you for all of them, really, because you
11:51:48 shouldn't have just a geographical lien of where you
11:51:51 live or don't live or work or don't work.
11:51:54 Eights free-moving society and I understand that very
11:51:56 If I may, just very quickly, two individuals brought up
11:51:59 one word.
11:52:01 Mr. Rogel and Mr. Huey.
11:52:04 And this word was water.
11:52:05 Without, what you I don't care what you good folks do,
11:52:08 how hard you work, how much time you have, you cannot
11:52:13 When I looked at all those cities from Miami down to
11:52:15 Tampa, Atlanta, Charlotte, so forth and so on, if you
11:52:20 don't have water you can't compete with them.
11:52:21 And we have, if you look into the future, water for
11:52:26 maybe ten years, and therefore after that the City of
11:52:28 Tampa is going to go dry to some degree because of the
11:52:32 population explosion around it.
11:52:34 So I'm letting you know now, you better work on another
11:52:36 subject matter of the great importance, and that's
11:52:40 So I yield to Mr. Suarez.
11:52:42 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Gray?
11:52:48 Sit down, mark, I'm talking to this guy.
11:52:50 [ Laughter ]
11:52:51 Two quick questions.
11:52:52 On your program, there's a slide just before the last
11:52:57 slide, says owner must receive four, and it's jumbled,
11:53:02 the sentence is not complete, four years of business
11:53:09 >> That was a typo. The classes we teach in workshops
11:53:11 and seminars, we felt it was a reasonable requirement
11:53:14 to require that they take at least four hours of
11:53:18 workshop and counseling as part of -- basically, their
11:53:23 investment back into this is we are going to invest in
11:53:26 the employees.
11:53:26 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You say that they have to be employed
11:53:29 for at least three months, correct?
11:53:32 >> Yes, that is correct.
11:53:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: They can lay them off after three
11:53:38 My point is there's in a provision in your program to
11:53:40 say that they are going to continue working, correct?
11:53:43 >> That's correct.
11:53:45 We struggled with that, Mr. Suarez.
11:53:47 We struggled with it and tried to figure out if there
11:53:50 was some way that we could extend that requirement.
11:53:56 We didn't feel that we had the leverage to be able to
11:53:58 do that, without delaying the reimbursement to them.
11:54:04 And we thought that would be counterproductive to what
11:54:07 we were trying to do.
11:54:10 To wait three months is long enough.
11:54:11 What we are doing as encouragement to keep them on is
11:54:14 we are making it clear that our desire is that this is
11:54:17 going to be a long-term thing, and that we are going to
11:54:20 be doubling back and surveying each of the companies
11:54:25 that participate in the program to have see whether or
11:54:26 not they did in fact keep the employees on beyond the
11:54:29 three-month minimum.
11:54:30 >>MIKE SUAREZ: One last question.
11:54:33 Does the City of Tampa provide funds to you for this
11:54:36 program in any way?
11:54:39 >> No, sir, not for this program.
11:54:41 But for the CRA and our basic programs, yes, sir.
11:54:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Do you know how much that is that we
11:54:46 provide to the CRA?
11:54:49 Maybe Mark might know.
11:54:51 >>MARK HUEY: Redevelopment --
11:54:59 >> You had the same look I had when I looked at the
11:55:04 >>MARK HUEY: About $105,000 between the different
11:55:07 CRAs is going into -- and then we have about another
11:55:11 100,000 relating to -- that comes out of the CDBG or
11:55:18 actually the general fund, 200.
11:55:20 >> So a little over $200,000.
11:55:23 Either to CRA or through general fund dollars?
11:55:26 >>MARK HUEY: Yes.
11:55:26 And then there are some things we are working on that
11:55:28 are project-related.
11:55:30 For example, they have been helping us in Ybor City,
11:55:33 think about the potential for an incubator in Ybor
11:55:37 We have a separate arrangement with them for that.
11:55:40 But in terms of continuous funds coming in, I think --
11:55:45 >> As a follow-up, there's nine jobs created in the
11:55:49 City of Tampa, approximately.
11:55:50 >> Nine companies.
11:55:53 >> Nine companies, nine jobs?
11:55:56 >>MARK HUEY: An average per company.
11:56:05 >>MIKE SUAREZ: 16 jobs.
11:56:06 Thank you very much.
11:56:07 I appreciate it.
11:56:08 >>MARK HUEY: That concludes the presentation.
11:56:14 Again, this was done primarily the new council members.
11:56:17 Some of you veterans are familiar with these programs
11:56:19 and activities.
11:56:20 I appreciate you being a part of it as well.
11:56:23 But we again hope you had a chance to kind of get to
11:56:26 know some of our key partners, and the work that's
11:56:29 going on.
11:56:29 If I can answer any questions.
11:56:31 I do want to answer Councilman Reddick's question about
11:56:34 East Tampa and West Tampa.
11:56:38 I'm not aware of any projects that have gone through
11:56:41 the EDC that have closed in East Tampa or West Tampa
11:56:45 over the time that I have been with the city which is
11:56:48 approximately eight years.
11:56:49 We have worked on projects.
11:56:50 In fact, we have a project now that is active, that
11:56:54 involves a potential for East Tampa and Drew Park.
11:56:58 And I can tell you that part of our agreement is that
11:57:02 they market our redevelopment areas.
11:57:05 And so the EDC is very good about promoting the
11:57:08 availability where it meets the company's needs, sites
11:57:14 in our redevelopment areas, but they can't control
11:57:17 where a company decides to relocate.
11:57:19 But I can tell you that as part of our agreement, and
11:57:21 as part of their routine course of business to promote
11:57:25 our redevelopment area, to promote our enterprise zone,
11:57:28 and I think as East Tampa comes along in our
11:57:32 redevelopment efforts, and as West Tampa continues to
11:57:35 evolve, we will get projects that do come in through
11:57:38 the work of EDC more and more.
11:57:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: If I may, hold council questions.
11:57:44 I am going to ask the public.
11:57:47 We do have a very important meeting possibly coming up
11:57:50 real soon.
11:57:51 Notice I use the word "possibly."
11:57:53 Anyone in the audience care to speak on this subject
11:57:55 matter, item number 5?
11:57:58 You have three minutes.
11:58:00 >> CDC of Tampa and also consider myself a community
11:58:10 development practitioner.
11:58:11 As a practitioner, I want us to know that we have a
11:58:14 serious problem with our economic development
11:58:18 As a practitioner, if you take the attitude that if you
11:58:22 eat healthy your body is healthy.
11:58:24 That's the attitude we have taken with our economic
11:58:25 development philosophy.
11:58:27 And I'm here to tell you it's time to break the fever.
11:58:31 We need to take an aspirin.
11:58:33 If a developer comes in often times we give money to
11:58:36 the developer and then it becomes owner equity and
11:58:40 leaves our community, instead of partnering with an
11:58:43 organization like the CDC of Tampa to create community
11:58:45 ownership of projects so that dollars stay here for job
11:58:48 training placement, financial literacy, all those other
11:58:51 When you look at CRAs, and we invite huge companies,
11:58:55 WalMarts to come in, again, any equity is owners
11:59:01 It's not community based economic development it goes
11:59:04 and it leaves our community.
11:59:05 We have to look at ways we get organizations like the
11:59:08 CDC of Tampa involved in economic development.
11:59:12 I will give you a quick example.
11:59:15 Larry is born in Tampa, raised in Tampa.
11:59:19 He's a resident of East Tampa, went to schools near
11:59:21 East Tampa.
11:59:24 Did a lot of work just day labor kind of work for ten
11:59:27 years here and there.
11:59:28 Comes to the realization that he needs to start a
11:59:31 He joins the East Tampa partnership.
11:59:33 He learns about the work training program by the EDC of
11:59:38 Tampa, takes the training program.
11:59:39 Through the training program we help him with his
11:59:42 resumé, and interviews, and do hard skills, able to
11:59:49 read blueprints, get certified in construction.
11:59:52 Now he has certifications that he can go out and get a
11:59:54 great job.
11:59:55 So we tell him to come back in.
11:59:57 We tell him about this great opportunity.
11:59:59 We have a solar company interested in hiring him.
12:00:01 He's excited about it.
12:00:02 But we tell him that he's got to go to Largo first
12:00:05 because the company is based there.
12:00:06 Then they will send him into Hillsborough County.
12:00:09 He said, I don't have a car.
12:00:10 I can't get there.
12:00:11 We say, okay, we are going to look for a company based
12:00:15 in East Tampa so you don't have to travel.
12:00:16 Come back in a week.
12:00:19 Larry is feeling very dejected so he leaves the city
12:00:21 office and walks down 22nd street to walk back home to
12:00:24 Mel month Heights.
12:00:25 As he's walking down 22nd street, he looks and he sees
12:00:28 the family health center being built on 22nd street.
12:00:32 He sees a neighbor that he recognizes, maybe working on
12:00:35 that project, doesn't see one, continues work walking.
12:00:38 You're at Martin Luther King, you see infrastructure
12:00:41 pipes being built and sidewalks going on.
12:00:43 He looks for another neighbor, see if maybe a neighbor
12:00:46 No neighbor.
12:00:47 Walks a little further down 22nd street, see it is
12:00:49 expansion going on on 22nd street, landscaping going
12:00:53 He looks to see, if there a neighbor possibly working
12:00:55 No neighbor in the community working on the project.
12:00:58 Larry is feeling dejected.
12:01:00 Every promise that was given to him is not being
12:01:04 He comes back to the CDC of Tampa.
12:01:06 We tell him finally, Tampa family health center decided
12:01:09 to take on four guys.
12:01:11 He's working for them. He's hired immediately.
12:01:14 Now his life long dream has come true.
12:01:17 We have to realize that from an economic development
12:01:20 perspective, we have to involve local CDC
12:01:25 Weapon you look at the way the philosophies are set,
12:01:28 you cannot go to owners equity.
12:01:30 We know there is no trickle down.
12:01:31 There's only owner's equity.
12:01:33 We have to look at ways we can involve local CDC in
12:01:36 training and job training placement amend build
12:01:38 collaborative efforts.
12:01:39 (Bell sounds).
12:01:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
12:01:42 Next, please.
12:01:43 Anyone else?
12:01:47 Okay, I go to council.
12:01:48 Mrs. Mulhern.
12:01:48 >>MARY MULHERN: I just want to thank everyone.
12:01:53 I was watching back there when I wasn't in here so I
12:01:56 was really paying attention to this very important, I
12:01:58 learned a lot today that I didn't necessarily already
12:02:01 know as one of the veterans here, with Mr. Miranda.
12:02:05 I want to say what really strikes me and speaks to Mr.
12:02:11 Coney's questions is that the net new jobs are 88%
12:02:17 small businesses.
12:02:18 So by definition, if we help locally whether it's East
12:02:25 Tampa, South Tampa, if we are helping a small local
12:02:28 business, which the CDC does, and which I think all of
12:02:34 the economic development partners that spoke today do
12:02:37 do that, that's where the jobs are.
12:02:40 That's where the jobs are.
12:02:42 That's where the tax base gets built.
12:02:44 And we need to keep that in mind.
12:02:47 Because those smaller businesses don't necessarily have
12:02:50 the capital to come in and buy land and do all these
12:02:54 So we have got to help the communities here.
12:02:57 And I like the idea of calling economic development
12:03:02 also community development.
12:03:03 Because as you build community, you build economic.
12:03:05 You build your economic base.
12:03:07 So thanks, everyone, for all of your presentations.
12:03:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I think the maker of this motion, I
12:03:16 yield to Mrs. Montelione.
12:03:18 I believe she was the one that brought this wonderful
12:03:22 gathering here this morning.
12:03:24 I yield to her.
12:03:25 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Actually, the credit goes to Mr.
12:03:30 He had initiated the idea of bringing all of the
12:03:35 partners to us today.
12:03:38 And we work together to round out the program to
12:03:43 include the small business, and to include Hillsborough
12:03:46 County, and thank everyone for being here.
12:03:49 A couple of things I want to say.
12:03:52 And in the interest of time, I do want to bring this
12:03:55 back to continue the conversation, because I didn't
12:03:59 want this to be rushed.
12:04:00 I wanted there to be a dialogue amongst us, and to
12:04:03 really talk about what needs to be done in economic
12:04:06 development, not only here in the City of Tampa, what
12:04:09 you cross the region, as many of our speakers have
12:04:14 talked about today.
12:04:15 So I propose a motion in just a moment about bringing
12:04:21 this back to continue the discussion.
12:04:24 A couple of things I would like to point out.
12:04:26 We heard from a lot of people today.
12:04:28 We heard from a lot of different organizations.
12:04:31 And one thing that I don't see happening -- and I'm
12:04:38 passionate about this because we have a lot of people
12:04:42 working on this.
12:04:42 We have a lot of programs.
12:04:44 But we are not seeing the results of what is brought
12:04:48 before us today with all these programs.
12:04:53 If everything that was present to us today was working,
12:04:56 we wouldn't be looking at 10% unemployment.
12:05:03 There's something missing, and I think that's focus.
12:05:06 We have throwing, as my mother used to be, spaghetti at
12:05:10 the wall and hoping that something sticks.
12:05:12 And we can't go about economic development in that
12:05:15 regard in order for us to be effective.
12:05:21 So I would like to make a motion to bring this back,
12:05:24 workshop date.
12:05:25 We have June 14th, which I had already called a
12:05:29 special session of council on the 14th to discuss
12:05:32 land development.
12:05:32 But I would like to make a motion to continue this
12:05:34 economic development workshop.
12:05:37 I would like to include in that by the 14th which
12:05:40 is in roughly two weeks.
12:05:42 We have a method of bringing an ordinance similar to
12:05:47 Hillsborough County's jobs program, look around, find
12:05:50 some funding, partner with agencies, workforce Florida
12:05:54 wasn't represented here today but I know workforce
12:05:57 Florida has some money for on the job training
12:06:01 I would like to invite Mr. Coney back, as well as
12:06:04 Gregory Hart, to talk about small businesses, because
12:06:08 as we saw, small businesses is what creates jobs and
12:06:11 does the work here in Tampa.
12:06:14 So I would like to make that motion and bring this back
12:06:16 for discussion on June 14th.
12:06:18 >> I have a motion by Mrs. Montelione.
12:06:22 Do I hear a second?
12:06:23 Mr. Reddick?
12:06:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: This workshop with a time limit of
12:06:30 two hours, I hope we will not schedule for two hours
12:06:32 for the next one, because that's why we have to rush,
12:06:37 because there are other issues on the agenda that we
12:06:41 need to discuss.
12:06:42 And looking at the 14th, there's something already
12:06:45 scheduled for the 14th.
12:06:47 If we are going to bring this back, I hope you limit to
12:06:49 the one hour.
12:06:50 >> The 14th is scheduled at 2:00 for Land
12:06:54 Development Code as a --
12:06:57 >>FRANK REDDICK: A motion to change that, a motion
12:07:00 here to bring this.
12:07:03 That's the reason.
12:07:04 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I wasn't aware of that.
12:07:07 So we could limit it to one hour.
12:07:10 But I'm not sure that we are going to have a serious
12:07:13 discussion about economic development and job growth if
12:07:15 we don't spend time.
12:07:17 Ware obviously not spending money.
12:07:18 If you look at that chart that was shown earlier we are
12:07:22 not spending money.
12:07:23 Orlando is number two.
12:07:23 We talked about a super region.
12:07:25 And I don't see how a super region is going to happen
12:07:28 if we don't start getting serious about putting either
12:07:30 time or money into this effort.
12:07:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Suarez.
12:07:35 >>MIKE SUAREZ: To amend the motion for two reasons,
12:07:39 selfish reasons.
12:07:40 I won't be here on June 14th and I hate to miss
12:07:43 The second, and this is what happens when we do too
12:07:47 many things in workshop sessions, we need to eliminate.
12:07:51 Would you than willing to change it after a CRA on June
12:07:55 7th instead?
12:07:57 Which we have a workshop set on that day, too.
12:07:59 And then we won't have to worry about necessarily
12:08:01 scheduling a time frame.
12:08:05 >>MIKE COHEN: I just want to point out that the
12:08:07 workshop immediately following the CRA in June is the
12:08:10 budget, is one of the two budget workshops.
12:08:12 And I would be very concerned about limiting the amount
12:08:16 of time that we spend on that topic, given how
12:08:19 important the issues are that we are going to be
12:08:21 talking about.
12:08:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'm sorry, I misread that.
12:08:26 I was thinking about the 9th.
12:08:27 I'm sorry.
12:08:28 We have there's a budget workshop listed on the
12:08:32 Which one are you talking about, Harry?
12:08:35 >>MIKE COHEN: I was referring to the one -- I thought
12:08:37 you were referring to the one on the 9th.
12:08:39 I thought I heard, though, some discussion of making a
12:08:42 change to what was already scald on the 7th.
12:08:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: The 14th.
12:08:48 What I am suggesting is the 7th, not the 9th.
12:08:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Now you realize how easy a job I
12:08:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: If I can bring to council's
12:08:59 attention, it doesn't appear on this agenda, because
12:09:01 it's not an official set meeting of council, but you
12:09:04 each received an invitation regarding a disaster
12:09:07 meeting at 1:30 in the afternoon on the 7th, just
12:09:10 to have remind you of that, that that is also perhaps
12:09:12 on your calendars.
12:09:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: It gets better as we go along.
12:09:19 All right.
12:09:20 I have a motion.
12:09:22 Mr. Reddick, if I may, let me get the CRA thing back to
12:09:30 where we can clear the agenda item so we can go
12:09:32 I am going let Mr. Reddick read the motion, although I
12:09:35 do have a motion on the floor.
12:09:36 >> The motion is for the CRA workshop that was
12:09:40 scheduled at 2:00 on June 14th, land development
12:09:45 workshop, be rescheduled to June 9th, immediately
12:09:48 following the CRA meeting.
12:09:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Ms. Mulhern, on this motion.
12:09:53 >>MARY MULHERN: (off microphone) Mr. Reddick, you
12:09:59 want to move the Tuesday Land Development Code to the
12:10:05 14th, to the 9th.
12:10:07 >>FRANK REDDICK: Correct.
12:10:10 >>MARY MULHERN: But you are saying the 9th --
12:10:15 >>MIKE COHEN: The 9th is the budget workshop
12:10:17 following the CRA.
12:10:18 >>MARY MULHERN: Let me ask this.
12:10:24 Maybe we should -- we should move the Land Development
12:10:29 Code thing further off.
12:10:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Something has got to move.
12:10:37 >>MARY MULHERN: Yes.
12:10:38 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Set another day?
12:10:47 >>MARY MULHERN: In a.
12:10:48 The land development -- the workshop is -- our next
12:10:51 workshop is on the 16th.
12:10:59 We can't add anything to that.
12:11:02 Maybe we should have these scheduling discussions after
12:11:06 our regular meeting next week.
12:11:08 You I guess we need to schedule something if it's going
12:11:11 to be next week.
12:11:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Let me say according to the rules, I
12:11:15 have already violated all rules by not asking the
12:11:20 council to extend the meeting past 12:00.
12:11:22 >> I move we go past 12.
12:11:26 >> Second by Mrs. Mulhern.
12:11:28 All in favor?
12:11:29 The Ayes have it unanimously.
12:11:31 Go on.
12:11:31 >>MARY MULHERN: I don't know how we got to having
12:11:36 these Tuesday meetings anyway.
12:11:38 We have two Tuesday meetings in June.
12:11:44 So I would say at least in the CRA meeting,
12:12:02 My calendar has a CRA meeting on Tuesday the 7th.
12:12:06 And then two weeks in a row we have got Tuesday
12:12:09 >> That's a special workshop of CRA if I am not
12:12:15 And then we have the regularly scheduled -- well, the
12:12:20 regularly scald one which would be on the 9th.
12:12:24 And that's the one that has the budget workshop.
12:12:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: As I understand it, the reason we
12:12:30 wanted to move these things around was to accommodate
12:12:32 the land development workshop.
12:12:33 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Originally we had the 7th and
12:12:42 the 14th because we were going to have CRA
12:12:45 activities discussed on both of those days.
12:12:48 And you had requested that we have the 7th and the
12:12:52 14th, a workshop, for CRA.
12:12:54 And what I did last session was I made the motion, and
12:12:58 with the per permission of Councilman Reddick, is to
12:13:03 put all of the CRA discussion into the 7th.
12:13:06 So we could free up the 14th to talk about the Land
12:13:08 Development Code.
12:13:10 Because and again this all ties in together.
12:13:15 When you talk about economic development, a lot of what
12:13:18 we do in our decisions when we talk about the Land
12:13:22 Development Code, and we have rezonings and variance
12:13:27 requests, that we have to rehear, is this economic
12:13:32 development related? So all of these things are in
12:13:35 And I truly feel that, you know, understanding the Land
12:13:39 Development Code, and understanding our practices of
12:13:44 business is vitally important.
12:13:47 So that's where the 14th came from.
12:13:49 It was original two CRA workshops.
12:13:51 We moved both of them into the 9th -- I mean into
12:13:54 the 7th to free up the 14th.
12:13:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Please, council members, give me a
12:13:58 Because I have still got the good people of the estuary
12:14:02 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well, I put out the date the
12:14:05 14th and I'm not sure why --
12:14:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I don't mind being here all day on
12:14:10 the 14 they, the 15th, the 12th, the 9th
12:14:14 and the 6th.
12:14:15 Just give me a date.
12:14:16 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Of that we do this on the 14th.
12:14:21 >>MARY MULHERN: I'll second it.
12:14:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Ms. Montelione,
12:14:28 second by Mrs. Mulhern to have the CRA --
12:14:34 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Continue the economic development
12:14:37 discussion, and for staff to bring back a proposal for
12:14:41 a jobs program similar to Hillsborough County jobs
12:14:46 program for small business on the 14th.
12:14:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I assume that would include the
12:14:50 costs and where the money is coming from and who is
12:14:52 going to keep an eye on it.
12:14:53 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I asked in N that motion for funds
12:14:56 to be identified, and perhaps even maybe a partnership,
12:15:00 workforce has some funds available we could partner
12:15:03 with them.
12:15:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: At what time on the 14th?
12:15:05 >>LISA MONTELIONE: The land development is 2:00.
12:15:09 So I would -- we are looking at 3:00?
12:15:19 >> Land development that was scald, and Mr. Reddick was
12:15:28 talking about be rescheduled to John 9th.
12:15:32 Would that fit in fine with everything?
12:15:35 >> June 9th is our budget workshop.
12:15:37 And again, you know, the budget workshop is very
12:15:40 I don't think that -- it's going to be a long day and
12:15:45 it's going to the demand a lot of attention.
12:15:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I am going to take your motion
12:15:50 Seconded by Mrs. Mulhern that that motion at 3:00 on
12:15:53 the 14th.
12:15:54 Am I correct so far?
12:15:56 All in favor indicate by saying Aye.
12:15:59 Opposed, nay.
12:16:01 Passes 4 to 2.
12:16:07 With Mr. Suarez and Mr. Reddick, no.
12:16:09 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Suarez and Reddick
12:16:13 voting no.
12:16:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: This has nothing to do with the
12:16:15 subject matter.
12:16:16 More than likely they have other things they have to do
12:16:18 and I understand that.
12:16:20 All right.
12:16:21 >> Do we still have to clear the secondary motion?
12:16:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Yes, we do.
12:16:33 Waiting for the side bar to finish.
12:16:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: All right.
12:16:39 We have a budget workshop scheduled on the 9th.
12:16:42 Am I correct, Mr. Cohen?
12:16:45 >>MIKE COHEN: Correct.
12:16:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: We still have the Land Development
12:16:47 Code, workshop, that we have to do something with.
12:16:53 Give me some direction on that date.
12:16:54 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I'm confused as to why we would be
12:17:00 canceling it.
12:17:04 The Land Development Code workshop at 2:00 on the
12:17:07 >>MARY MULHERN: Mr. Reddick wanted to move it.
12:17:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I believe to try to do this to
12:17:16 accommodate the departure of Mr. Huey leaving so he
12:17:21 could be here for this.
12:17:21 This is what this is about, I believe.
12:17:23 Am I correct, sir?
12:17:24 >>MARK HUEY: I certainly think it would be helpful for
12:17:29 me to be here for the redevelopment workshop and have
12:17:31 it done, and there's no way we are going to cover all
12:17:34 of those in one of that we are going to allow you to
12:17:38 have the kind of dialogue that I think you want to have
12:17:40 about seven redevelopment areas and one workshop.
12:17:44 But it isn't going to happen.
12:17:45 So my last day is June 24th.
12:17:50 And I'm at your service.
12:17:52 I just want to be helpful.
12:17:53 >>MARY MULHERN: I don't think we need to have a
12:17:57 discussion, and in-depth discussion in one meeting
12:18:01 about all seven economic developments.
12:18:04 >>MARK HUEY: That's why we had it split into two
12:18:07 It was originally proposed to do two, and we were going
12:18:10 to do three and one at four at the other and we have
12:18:12 been doing that.
12:18:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: If
12:18:20 >>MIKE COHEN: If I may make a suggestion looking at the
12:18:22 calendar, if there is going to be, looks like, a block
12:18:25 of time Thursday afternoon, June 23rd, after our
12:18:28 morning meeting, that's our last meeting before our
12:18:31 But maybe if there's something that needs to be
12:18:34 scheduled, that might be a block of time that might be
12:18:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: That's a good suggestion.
12:18:38 Any other suggestions by council members?
12:18:40 >>MARY MULHERN: What would you move to the 23rd?
12:18:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: The workshop.
12:18:52 >>MIKE COHEN: The 2 p.m. workshop to the 23rd,
12:18:55 >> The Land Development Code workshop scheduled now for
12:18:57 the 14th?
12:18:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Yes, the 14th.
12:19:02 >>MIKE COHEN: Will that fit in, Mr. Reddick with, what
12:19:04 you are trying to accomplish here?
12:19:06 >>FRANK REDDICK: That's fine.
12:19:09 >>MIKE COHEN: So we are going to move both the 2 p.m.
12:19:12 Land Development Code workshop and economic workshop
12:19:15 scheduled for 3 p.m. to June 23rd.
12:19:20 Does that work?
12:19:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mr. Reddick,
12:19:26 second by Mrs. Mulhern.
12:19:27 All in favor of the motion indicate by saying Aye.
12:19:29 Opposed, nay.
12:19:31 The Ayes have it unanimously.
12:19:43 I need another motion, I believe, by Mr. Reddick on the
12:19:46 >>LISA MONTELIONE: If I may, I think I can clear this
12:20:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Let's go to Mrs. Montelione.
12:20:26 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I would like to amend the -- the
12:20:29 motion on the floor from Mr. Reddick to accommodate
12:20:37 what Councilman Cohen did, so we are going to -- the
12:20:44 motion on the floor was to cancel the 14th special
12:20:51 called workshop session of council for Land Development
12:20:56 So if we need to amend that motion I can do that.
12:20:59 So we would amend Councilman Reddicks --
12:21:02 >>MARY MULHERN: It didn't even get a second.
12:21:04 >> We have moved everything to the 14th.
12:21:07 >> is it all done?
12:21:09 All complete?
12:21:09 A second, please?
12:21:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Mr. Chairman, my understanding is now
12:21:14 you have taken the LDC code workshop and economic
12:21:18 development and you have moved that to an often meeting
12:21:20 on a regular scheduled day, which then by that, my
12:21:24 understanding leaves the Tuesday 14th to be
12:21:28 available for whatever time council wishes to be
12:21:31 scheduled for one of Mr. Huey's presentations for the
12:21:35 CRA redevelopment areas.
12:21:38 Is that the intent, Mr. Reddick?
12:21:41 >>FRANK REDDICK: So we have 14 development now.
12:21:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: So the two days, would be the
12:21:46 14th, and what was the second date, the 23rd
12:21:50 for Mr. Huey's presentations.
12:21:53 Assuming, Mr. Reddick, that you make the motion for
12:21:55 whatever time on the 14th that you wish to have
12:21:57 >>FRANK REDDICK: What is your preference, Mr. Huey,
12:22:00 the time?
12:22:01 What's your time preference?
12:22:02 >>MARK HUEY: I don't have my calendar in front.
12:22:06 I thought we had one on the 7th, next week.
12:22:08 Did that get rescheduled?
12:22:10 >>MARY MULHERN: A regular council meeting.
12:22:17 >>MARK HUEY: I didn't think we moved the one on the
12:22:20 >> I'm sorry, we had already cleared that portion, that
12:22:23 we already had the second set, that was no problem, and
12:22:26 we were moving the special second part of this meeting
12:22:28 from the 14th to the 23rd.
12:22:31 So are we just discussing what time we have it?
12:22:35 It should be immediately following the regular meeting,
12:22:37 I would assume.
12:22:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I don't know about all of you, but
12:22:43 I'm so confused here.
12:22:44 >> Let me clarify.
12:22:46 I think --
12:22:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: There's 15 different things going on
12:22:49 at one time.
12:22:49 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Right now we have --
12:22:54 >>MIKE COHEN: We have moved everything scald on the
12:22:56 The land development and economic development workshop,
12:22:58 we moved them both to the afternoon of the 23rd,
12:23:01 after our regular rescheduled meeting.
12:23:03 So, therefore, there is nothing on the calendar now on
12:23:06 Tuesday, June 14th.
12:23:08 >>FRANK REDDICK: I movie to have a CRA workshop at
12:23:13 9 a.m. on June 14th.
12:23:15 >> Second.
12:23:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Is that a regular counseling meeting
12:23:19 or workshop?
12:23:23 >> There is a 1:30.
12:23:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mr. Reddick to
12:23:27 move that to June 14th at 1:30.
12:23:29 Am I so far clear?
12:23:31 I need a second.
12:23:34 Second by Mrs. Mulhern.
12:23:36 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Seconded by Montelione.
12:23:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: By Montelione.
12:23:42 I'm sorry.
12:23:42 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
12:23:48 How about that?
12:23:48 The ayes have it.
12:23:53 >>MARK HUEY: I have a question on the economic
12:23:54 development workshop.
12:23:56 The follow-on to the -- again, I have trade to be
12:24:00 helpful here today and provide you some good briefing.
12:24:04 I'm a little concerned about the spaghetti on the wall
12:24:08 comment, because way thought you heard during your two
12:24:12 briefings particularly from the EDC and the Tampa Bay
12:24:15 partnership, it's really unprecedented efforts to be
12:24:20 And so what I will do is I will spend a little bit of
12:24:24 time to try to debrief on.
12:24:27 That butt what I want to make sure I do is prepare for
12:24:29 the next workshop.
12:24:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Let me say, we are talking so much,
12:24:33 everybody knows what you want to do.
12:24:35 But that council member said about that spaghetti on
12:24:38 the wall has nothing do to do with economic development
12:24:40 E.it was a side thing to make things happen to move
12:24:43 along and that kind of stuff.
12:24:44 So that's why where we are at.
12:24:46 I don't want to confuse us anymore.
12:24:49 >>MARK HUEY: What I am trying to ask is what would you
12:24:51 like me to do the form the economic development
12:24:54 workshop, the next one scheduled?
12:24:56 Or nothing?
12:24:57 I can just attend and show up.
12:25:00 I want to make sure I have direction.
12:25:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Well, to show up is like dying and
12:25:07 not being buried.
12:25:08 You attend but you came back.
12:25:09 So that's not the case.
12:25:10 The case is for all of us to work together, all of us.
12:25:14 >>MARK HUEY: Yes.
12:25:14 No, no, I understand.
12:25:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: And that's what we are trying.
12:25:17 So whatever the next step is of the economic
12:25:21 development, we want to nobody about it.
12:25:23 We want to know what's happened here.
12:25:25 We found out today, the availabilities, the different
12:25:28 plans, the University of South Florida, the good people
12:25:31 from the economic development, the Executive Committee
12:25:35 members, the board members, how much money you have to
12:25:37 pay 25,000 to be a member, 10,000 to be an executive
12:25:42 I remember all those facts and figures.
12:25:44 1600 jobs that were created.
12:25:46 We want to be go further.
12:25:49 We did retain everything you said.
12:25:51 Or I think we did.
12:25:52 >>MARK HUEY: So more information about the plan.
12:25:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: We want to know specifically about
12:25:58 the plan.
12:26:02 >>MARK HUEY: That's helpful.
12:26:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: What revenues you get for the
12:26:05 What return you get for the investment.
12:26:07 I think one council member brought that up.
12:26:09 And it was clearly said we have all these programs.
12:26:12 What does it cost and how do they regenerate the funds
12:26:16 to pay for themselves? I think that's the crux of the
12:26:18 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That, and in the motion, I have
12:26:23 stated asking for staff to have look at Hillsborough
12:26:26 County's program for small jobs -- small business to
12:26:31 create jobs.
12:26:32 And to identify funding, a funding source or partner
12:26:37 that we can work with, so that we can help the small
12:26:41 businesses in a direct way.
12:26:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: You mentioned that.
12:26:46 We discussed it.
12:26:47 We took a vote on it.
12:26:48 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Just so I was clear.
12:26:52 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Just a brief comment.
12:26:53 I think what's helpful for us is to digest what we
12:26:57 heard today, give us an opportunity to read over the
12:26:59 materials, formulate some questions, come back having
12:27:03 digested this, having had a chance maybe to debrief
12:27:07 some of the people further, and that way, the
12:27:12 discussion goes someplace.
12:27:14 And it moves along, and we have a chance to study.
12:27:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: And again I am not blaming no one or
12:27:22 finger pointing, but wave to get these things 48 hours.
12:27:25 If we don't see these things until now -- and it's not
12:27:30 your fault, not anyone's fault.
12:27:32 But hence forth I will not let one in that's not here
12:27:35 48 hours in advance, that the council members haven't
12:27:37 seen, therefore seem to be unprepared when they are
12:27:40 That's the only thing that I am going to say.
12:27:42 It's not directed to you or anyone else in the
12:27:44 Those are the rules and I am going to adhere to those
12:27:47 I have been very lenient lately and I am going to
12:27:52 >>MARK HUEY: Thank you all.
12:27:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
12:27:55 We go to item number -- yes?
12:28:01 We go to the item number 7.
12:28:07 I'm sorry, 6.
12:28:08 >> Jan McLean: Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and members
12:28:10 of the council.
12:28:12 And I think I have a proposal that will shorten this up
12:28:15 even more.
12:28:17 Let me just explain to you why we are here today.
12:28:25 Do you want me to wait?
12:28:26 I will be glad to wait.
12:28:28 Keep going?
12:28:30 In the recent legislative session, House Bill 7215
12:28:35 passed, and in that legislation, there was direction to
12:28:38 the department, Florida Department of Agriculture and
12:28:41 consumer services, that they would have the authority
12:28:43 to regulate fertilizer.
12:28:47 Also in that legislation, if a local government wished
12:28:50 to adopt an ordinance that regulated the sale of
12:28:55 fertilizer, and that ordinance was on the books,
12:28:59 adopted before July 1st of this year, then that
12:29:02 local government could go ahead and enforce their
12:29:06 After July 1st, no.
12:29:07 That would be preemptive to the state.
12:29:10 So that's why we are here today in very short order, to
12:29:13 present to you information for your consideration and
12:29:17 to give direction to staff as to whether myself, staff,
12:29:23 should develop an ordinance for your consideration for
12:29:25 first reading next week on June 2nd.
12:29:28 You have two meetings in June, two regular meetings,
12:29:32 because I know you have just gone through your
12:29:34 calendar, two regular meetings in June, the 2nd and
12:29:37 23rd at which we could have these two readings to
12:29:40 consider whether to adopt.
12:29:42 I have spoken with the Executive Director of the
12:29:46 estuary program, and Annette Holland for that program
12:29:52 as well, and what they have proposed in light of your
12:29:55 schedule here today is that holly could come back with
12:29:58 her presentation if you so desire to direct me to
12:30:02 develop that ordinance, and we will give you that
12:30:04 presentation at first reading next week.
12:30:08 Today, and that will allow you to consider whether to
12:30:11 give me the direction, and if you would like to hear
12:30:13 from the public who has sat this morning and give their
12:30:17 comments as to how they feel that you should take
12:30:21 action or not.
12:30:23 That's just a proposal.
12:30:24 We are certainly willing to go forward with the
12:30:28 But we thought maybe that might be the most efficient
12:30:30 way to use the time.
12:30:31 >>MARY MULHERN: I think that's a very sensitive
12:30:39 I think that would work certainly for me.
12:30:43 I looked at the issue and studied it.
12:30:45 But if other council members are willing to do that,
12:30:47 and then just give the public a chance to speak -- were
12:30:52 you saying we should listen to the public now or ask
12:30:54 them to come back?
12:30:57 >> Well, you still have members.
12:30:59 You still have members of the public here that did wish
12:31:02 to make a comment with regard to whether an ordinance
12:31:05 was developed or not.
12:31:06 So you could use the time to hear from them, and then
12:31:09 consider whether you wanted to direct me or not to
12:31:11 bring back an ordinance for your consideration next
12:31:13 >>MARY MULHERN: I think that would be a good solution.
12:31:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I think the public should be heard
12:31:19 now to make sure that everybody has the opportunity to
12:31:23 be heard.
12:31:24 However, that being said, if you are going to speak,
12:31:27 and someone has already spoken on the same thing you
12:31:30 have said, and in this area it's very narrow so we are
12:31:33 all going to be speaking about the same thing.
12:31:35 Am I right?
12:31:37 And the sale of fertilizer.
12:31:39 You don't mind hearing 15 people speak about the same
12:31:41 thing, but in the essence of time, it's only 15
12:31:46 We decided that earlier.
12:31:47 >> And then at the conclusion of public comments, you
12:31:51 all would --
12:31:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Correct, correct.
12:31:53 Anyone in the audience care to speak to this subject
12:31:55 matter item number 6, file E-2011-48?
12:32:02 >> Phil Compton.
12:32:03 Thank you for the opportunity to speak.
12:32:07 Representative of Sierra Club and resident of City of
12:32:09 Tampa on Hillsborough River.
12:32:11 I have a letter for you which will have most of my
12:32:14 remarks in it so I will give that to you.
12:32:16 You can read it at owes leisure.
12:32:19 The City of Tampa would be about the 47th different
12:32:23 city and county in the State of Florida to adopt a very
12:32:26 cost effective way to address your water quality
12:32:30 problems while reducing your current expenditures to
12:32:33 clean up those water quality problems.
12:32:36 Basically, it captures the fact that it rains in
12:32:39 Florida in the summertime, John, July, August,
12:32:43 September, and from Pinellas County down to Naples on
12:32:45 the Gulf coast of Florida, and on the east coast as
12:32:48 well, communities have moved forward in the last
12:32:49 several years, these are working very well, and wall
12:32:53 hear next week is about the Tampa Bay estuary programs
12:32:57 public education campaign which is all about educating
12:33:00 the public, how to use fertilizer on their lawns in a
12:33:04 way that does not pollute but actually keeps the lawn
12:33:07 healthy and greener than it is at this point in time.
12:33:10 What we do not have with the Hillsborough County
12:33:12 ordinance is the capturing of the rainy season
12:33:16 restriction, which is the essence of that, and what is
12:33:20 possible by requiring that nitrogen be 50% slow
12:33:24 released so you can use it in the spring and again in
12:33:26 the October after the rainy season.
12:33:28 I will leave these remarks with you.
12:33:30 And one other thing.
12:33:32 I would like to say that these ordinances, this
12:33:36 approach, is consistent with what ISIS and the Florida
12:33:40 department of environmental protection have been
12:33:41 telling the public how to use nitrogen in the -- not in
12:33:46 the rainy season and using iron and magnesium at other
12:33:50 times of the year and during the rainy season.
12:33:52 So you can have healthy, green lawns.
12:33:54 Thank you very much.
12:33:55 I will leave these remarks with you.
12:33:56 And there are several citizens, there were a dozen
12:34:02 folks here earlier today, but these folks have been
12:34:04 here and they would like to something to say very
12:34:08 Thank you.
12:34:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
12:34:09 Next, please.
12:34:10 >> I'm Kathy Harrelson, 231-44th Avenue north in
12:34:17 St. Pete.
12:34:18 And first I want to thank you for your commitment to
12:34:20 water as the vital resource for all of us.
12:34:23 Cities are leading the charge in Florida for economic
12:34:25 development and for sustainable communities.
12:34:29 As witnessed by your previous speaker, made it clear
12:34:33 that a regional approach makes the most sense in
12:34:35 promoting cost effective way to develop sustainable
12:34:41 That's basically why I am here.
12:34:43 And Mr. Chair, you yourself said no geographic lines.
12:34:47 Water certainly doesn't follow geographic lines.
12:34:49 Your water is our water.
12:34:50 We passed an ordinance last year after much, much
12:34:53 vetting, years really of vetting, and so I'm here today
12:34:57 20 thank you for hearing this and hope that you will
12:34:59 see your way Clare to move forward with an ordinance.
12:35:01 Thanks very much.
12:35:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: We appreciate your attendance.
12:35:04 Next, please.
12:35:04 >> Good afternoon.
12:35:08 Beverly Griffiths.
12:35:11 I live in Riverview, Florida.
12:35:13 My husband and I are small business owners in Tampa.
12:35:17 In the area near Lowry Park.
12:35:19 And clean water is very important to both of us.
12:35:22 And also I wanted to mention that EPA has made some
12:35:28 very good and reasonable recommendations for Florida to
12:35:32 clean up their waters, and I think if we could do this,
12:35:37 get Tampa to adopt a strong ordinance it would go a
12:35:40 long way towards meeting EPA's standards.
12:35:43 Thank you.
12:35:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you so very much.
12:35:45 Next, please.
12:35:46 >> My name is Tom Krumreich, and I live in the county
12:35:51 but I work with Florida Consumer Action Network here in
12:35:55 And I have been involved with this issue for the last
12:36:00 couple years.
12:36:02 Working with Phil and the Sierra Club.
12:36:04 And I really believe that we need to join Pinellas
12:36:07 County in supporting, and Sarasota, which is the one
12:36:12 that had it the longest and has the best track record.
12:36:15 It's extremely effective to have the fertilizer ban,
12:36:20 the most effective way to address this issue of
12:36:24 fertilizer in the summertime.
12:36:26 So as an individual and as representing -- we strongly
12:36:33 support the strong fertilizer ordinance for the City of
12:36:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
12:36:40 Next, please.
12:36:40 >> Darrin booth with heights development, waterfront
12:36:44 I strongly support -- you guys putting together a very
12:36:50 strong program to reduce the amount of nutrients that
12:36:56 are flowing into the river.
12:36:58 I am confident, I can keep my landscape really green,
12:37:01 my flowers beautiful, with you guys putting in place a
12:37:04 strong ordinance that actually keeps our water clean
12:37:07 and beautiful.
12:37:08 Thank you.
12:37:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
12:37:11 As you are coming up, I was going to say in a one knows
12:37:14 better than you p about what the minimum loads are that
12:37:17 are going into the bay from tertiary treatment plant.
12:37:20 And right now, we are meeting those levels.
12:37:23 However, as prosperity comes back, which it will, we
12:37:28 won't be meeting those levels because of the high flows
12:37:30 that have to go through.
12:37:31 And then we have a problem, a huge problem with the
12:37:35 So just very briefly, notice I said briefly, touch on
12:37:38 that and then let's get where we are.
12:37:41 Ms. Mulhern.
12:37:42 >>MARY MULHERN: I just quick ask that you put your
12:37:46 name on the record from before.
12:37:48 I guess when you first spoke you didn't say your name.
12:37:50 >> I thought I did.
12:37:52 Jan McLean with the city.
12:37:57 There has been -- it's only one other local government
12:38:02 ordinance that has a point of sales ban which would
12:38:05 prevent the sale of fertilizers with phosphorus during
12:38:10 the rainy season and you just heard from the public.
12:38:12 There is not any previous research, but we are hoping
12:38:18 to develop a project through the estuary program that
12:38:20 will provide us that data to show to the scientific
12:38:27 community specific data that will show the improvement
12:38:30 in the water quality.
12:38:32 Yes, you are correct, we have just received our renewal
12:38:37 from our Curren plant and we have our load allocation
12:38:41 for the nutrients, and we are meeting it.
12:38:43 And we will hopefully meet it through the five years,
12:38:47 but as you said, beyond that, we have to come up with
12:38:50 projects, whether it be reclaimed water or whether it
12:38:52 be reduction of the nutrients that go into that bay so
12:38:57 that we can accommodate growth for the city and we feel
12:39:01 that, an it has been demonstrated in some of the other
12:39:04 communities, that this might be an enormous tool to
12:39:11 help us, and there's economic benefits so you can
12:39:13 consider that at first reading during that time, the
12:39:16 presentation from the estuary program accommodates
12:39:20 that, has that information.
12:39:21 I provided you with some of the materials for your
12:39:23 consideration for today, and you will hear, I'm sure,
12:39:27 from other folks, both from the fertilizer community,
12:39:32 probably the lawn and nurserymen community, and then
12:39:35 additional public comment.
12:39:36 But for action for you -- for me today, I need
12:39:41 direction as to whether to develop or not an ordinance
12:39:44 to bring back for first reading next week that would
12:39:48 contain proposed point of sale ban during the seasonal
12:39:53 rainy season.
12:39:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: My personal feeling is point of
12:39:57 Even though that doesn't prevent anyone from not going
12:39:59 to an outside area where no ordinance is in effect, buy
12:40:05 and use it.
12:40:05 But it's a point to start.
12:40:07 And that's what I'm most interested in.
12:40:10 I can only also say that you mention reclaim.
12:40:12 I was hoping would you say indirect.
12:40:15 Reclaimed does not solve the future water supply of any
12:40:18 entity including the City of Tampa.
12:40:19 Any other question by council members?
12:40:21 Ms. Mulhern.
12:40:22 >>MARY MULHERN: Yes.
12:40:24 I just wanted to say since we are delaying probably the
12:40:27 best case for this, which we'll get from the estuary
12:40:30 program staff, that the point of sale of the actual,
12:40:36 biggest suppliers, the big box stores, already are
12:40:39 providing Florida-friendly fertilizers, which is what
12:40:43 they call it, and during the rainy season, and some of
12:40:47 them may have already even adopted the practice of not
12:40:50 offering the on the ones during that.
12:40:53 Is that true?
12:40:54 Or is it just that they are offering and featuring?
12:41:02 >> Holly green, Executive Director of the Tampa Bay
12:41:05 estuary -- estuary program.
12:41:08 Pinellas County's ban on the sail of fertilizer starts
12:41:11 June 1st of this year.
12:41:12 The stores now have about 706 different products that
12:41:15 are available and on the shelves now.
12:41:19 Most of those products are made in Florida.
12:41:21 And there are products out there, and Pinellas County,
12:41:27 you can purchase those.
12:41:28 I don't know about the availability in Hillsborough at
12:41:32 this time.
12:41:32 >>MARY MULHERN: That's great.
12:41:34 So it's an economic development benefit and that will
12:41:36 be supporting local producers of fertilizers by doing
12:41:42 So we could be.
12:41:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: We need direction for Ms. McLean.
12:41:49 >>MARY MULHERN: I would like to make a motion that you
12:41:52 come back on June 2nd, and holly gren of the
12:42:02 estuary program come back and give us a report on what
12:42:05 further can be accomplished and the need to do it, and
12:42:08 maybe we can get into a little more detail, but
12:42:11 basically we have to pass something before July 1st
12:42:13 if we are ever going to do this.
12:42:15 I would like to -- the motion is to be that legal
12:42:20 brings back an ordinance for us to consider on June
12:42:24 2nd, that would ban point of sale of fertilizers
12:42:30 containing nitrogen and phosphorus, I believe, and
12:42:36 during the rainy season, and bring that back for first
12:42:40 reading, after we hear from the council and -- I mean
12:42:47 the east estuary program and consider whether to pass
12:42:50 that ordinance.
12:42:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mrs. Mulhern, second by
12:42:54 Mr. Cohen to bring back June 2nd.
12:42:56 That means two weeks later, or about the 16th of
12:42:59 June --
12:43:04 >> The 23rd.
12:43:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Two weeks got longer.
12:43:07 So the 23rd, it would be the second reading of that
12:43:12 And Mr. Reddick.
12:43:15 >>FRANK REDDICK: Will this be noticed, so those affect
12:43:23 bid this will have an opportunity to come forth and
12:43:26 >> Yes, sir, absolutely.
12:43:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: Is it also possible you can give the
12:43:30 economic impact on the businesses that will be affected
12:43:32 by this if we pass this ordinance?
12:43:34 >> We have identified the regional outlets that carry
12:43:38 fertilizer that would be affected by this so we could
12:43:41 identify those for you and do our best to have economic
12:43:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: I would like to have that, as we talk
12:43:49 about economic development earlier, talk about job
12:43:52 creation, and I want to know how many people are going
12:43:54 to be affected by this ordinance.
12:43:57 So if you could share that were me.
12:43:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion on the floor by Mrs.
12:44:01 Ms. Mulhern.
12:44:02 Second by Mr. Cohen.
12:44:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Just a clarification.
12:44:06 This will be coming back on first reading.
12:44:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: The 2nd.
12:44:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Did you want this under staff
12:44:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: It comes under staff reports.
12:44:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: The other issue was its not set for a
12:44:17 public hearing.
12:44:17 The offerings public hearing would be the second
12:44:20 reading adoption but those people who dough wish to
12:44:22 address council could do it during agendaed public
12:44:24 comment at the start of next week's meeting.
12:44:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Which is a common thing every week
12:44:28 when we have those meetings.
12:44:29 Any further discussion by council members?
12:44:32 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
12:44:35 Opposed nay.
12:44:36 The ayes have it unanimous.
12:44:38 Thank you very much.
12:44:39 We go now to item number 7.
12:44:41 >>JULIA COLE: Legal department.
12:44:46 I have been requested to look at whether or not City
12:44:48 Council can review the hearing of the lower tribunal in
12:44:54 your review hearings.
12:44:56 Your code provides that what you are doing is reviewing
12:44:58 that lower tribunal hearing.
12:45:00 So it's not technically a problem for you to review the
12:45:07 hearing from the case below.
12:45:08 You can review those online now but the one thing you
12:45:11 would have to ensure is that the DVD of that particular
12:45:15 hearing is made part of the record.
12:45:17 There's a cost associated with that.
12:45:18 You have to produce a DVD, I think either 15 or $30 in
12:45:24 that line.
12:45:25 Since your code does not require the applicant or the
12:45:28 petitioner actually provide that to you, it's a cost
12:45:31 that would have to be born by the city to make those
12:45:33 DVDs part of the record.
12:45:35 I discussed this with land development.
12:45:38 They certainly don't have that in their budget right
12:45:39 now so your options are to go ahead and make the motion
12:45:42 to have these provided to you, and I don't know
12:45:45 budgetarily where that oh would come from for the
12:45:49 The alternative is to amend the code and make that a
12:45:52 requirement of petitioner when he is moving forward
12:45:54 with thinks his case.
12:45:55 >>MIKE SUAREZ: As a point of this is 2011.
12:46:01 We cannot get electronic copies of whatever that is
12:46:06 done free of charge?
12:46:07 I mean, isn't that available?
12:46:10 >>> You can watch it online.
12:46:15 In order to have that particular hearing preserved for
12:46:17 the record, should anybody want to challenge your
12:46:20 decision, you do need to have some document in the
12:46:24 record, either a transcript, which is what we used to
12:46:27 provide, or the DVD, in my opinion, would be
12:46:31 I can't have the idea that you all watched it --
12:46:38 >>MIKE SUAREZ: My question is not the idea of a DVD.
12:46:42 My point is this.
12:46:43 We put it online, it is online.
12:46:45 We had to put it as part of the record.
12:46:47 Who is doing this for $15?
12:46:49 >> It's the cable department charges somewhere between
12:46:53 15 and $30 in order to produce the DVD.
12:46:55 >> A DVD?
12:46:58 They charge 15 to $30?
12:47:00 >> I asked --
12:47:02 >>MIKE SUAREZ: That makes no sense whatsoever.
12:47:04 >> That's what I am told.
12:47:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thanks.
12:47:09 >>MARY MULHERN: On the same subject, you are talking
12:47:10 about one DVD for the record?
12:47:13 >> You just need one DVD for the record.
12:47:15 And I am told that's actually the labor charge to have
12:47:19 a staff person --
12:47:21 >> But we put it online.
12:47:23 We already know it's there?
12:47:24 >> I can only relate to you what I am being told.
12:47:27 >>MARY MULHERN: This is a function of the budget, as
12:47:30 you will find out where each department charges each
12:47:33 other for the work that they are doing as city
12:47:38 So they are trying to figure out who to charge the $15
12:47:42 for the DVD.
12:47:46 We'll find it.
12:47:48 I think someone will find it.
12:47:50 Maybe our new finance chair can find it.
12:47:52 And this is for appeals, right?
12:47:54 >> This is for the appeals.
12:47:57 If City Council wants to have that as policy and what
12:47:59 they are requesting as part of their hearing, I think
12:48:02 it would be inappropriate to do it for some.
12:48:05 >>MARY MULHERN: I would guess that would be --
12:48:07 probably less than $100 a year.
12:48:09 Maybe 200 a year.
12:48:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I agree with Mrs. Mulhern.
12:48:13 This not something that's in the tens of thousands of
12:48:16 This is when they appeal something.
12:48:17 So it's not an everyday ongoing basis.
12:48:20 This is something that is needed to preserve the
12:48:22 So in case somebody got to testify, you had it and you
12:48:26 saw it.
12:48:27 You may not have understood it but you had it and you
12:48:29 saw it.
12:48:30 But, anyway, any other comments?
12:48:33 Anyone in the audience care to speak to any subject
12:48:35 matter on the agenda?
12:48:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Just a question, Mr. Chairman.
12:48:39 Did you wish to have any -- do you require action to be
12:48:45 >>JULIA COLE: I will require action in order to make
12:48:47 sure our staff does all that's appropriate to meet
12:48:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Well, I would take it out of my
12:48:52 budget but I don't have one.
12:48:53 Not at all.
12:48:54 So there is a council budget in general.
12:48:56 So let me handle that.
12:48:57 And I will work it out of our own council budget.
12:49:00 It's not going to be something that's in the thousands
12:49:02 of dollars.
12:49:03 If it is, I will come back to you for some donation to
12:49:05 that budget.
12:49:07 Ms. Mulhern.
12:49:07 >>MARY MULHERN: I don't understand.
12:49:09 There's the council budget.
12:49:11 But there's also our clerk and our legal department.
12:49:15 We are talking about quasi-judicial proceedings here.
12:49:18 It shouldn't come out of the council's office budget.
12:49:21 It should come from somewhere.
12:49:24 Can we please ask the clerk and legal department to
12:49:26 find the appropriate fund to pay for the record?
12:49:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I would pay for it myself out of my
12:49:36 own money because you aren't going to break the bank.
12:49:39 You are talking about 100, $200, $300 at most a year as
12:49:43 I see it.
12:49:44 So we spent more money now on TV listening to us than
12:49:47 what the whole budget is going to cost.
12:49:48 >>MARY MULHERN: That was my point.
12:49:51 That's why I don't want City Council to pay for it
12:49:53 because all of our quasi-judicial proceedings are land
12:49:59 I mean, it doesn't make any sense.
12:50:01 >>JULIA COLE: This is not an obligation under your
12:50:05 This is City Council making this as a request to have
12:50:07 this made for the record.
12:50:08 The option also is to amend the code and make this an
12:50:11 obligation of the petitioner as they move forward to
12:50:14 file their application that they provide one DVD, and
12:50:17 then we can require the petitioner to pay for that.
12:50:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Why don't weep do this, if I may
12:50:24 Why don't we have a council member make a motion to ask
12:50:26 the legal department to do just what Ms. Cole just said
12:50:29 so we can get this off and going at in a cost to any
12:50:32 one of the taxpayers.
12:50:34 I have a motion by Mrs. Mulhern, seconded by Mr. Cohen.
12:50:38 Any further discussion on that motion, to ask the legal
12:50:40 department to bring back an ordinance to be that
12:50:44 Any further discussion?
12:50:45 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
12:50:48 Opposed, nay.
12:50:49 The Ayes have it unanimously.
12:50:51 Any new business from left to right?
12:50:53 Mr. Cohen?
12:50:54 >>MIKE COHEN: Very briefly.
12:50:55 I need to remained council members to please submit the
12:50:57 name of their appointee to the budget advisory
12:51:01 We are still waiting on a few of those.
12:51:03 >>MARY MULHERN: I will submit my appointee right now
12:51:07 on the record, is mark Anderson who will continue as an
12:51:14 adviser oat budget advisory committee.
12:51:20 I would like to ask the staff appear for five minutes
12:51:27 under staff reports on June 2nd to present the
12:51:31 results of the neighborhood survey on urban trees.
12:51:38 That's a motion to put that on the agenda.
12:51:40 For June 2nd.
12:51:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Do I have a second?
12:51:45 Second by Mr. Cohen.
12:51:46 I have a motion by Ms. Mulhern, seconded by Mr. Cohen
12:51:50 on the subject matter of the trees for -- urban trees,
12:51:53 June 2nd that Ms. Mulhern brought up.
12:51:56 All in favor say Aye.
12:51:57 Opposed, nay.
12:51:58 The ayes have it unanimously.
12:51:59 Mr. Reddick.
12:52:00 >>FRANK REDDICK: No business.
12:52:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: In a new business.
12:52:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A miracle.
12:52:06 Thank you very much.
12:52:08 I need a motion to receive all the documents today.
12:52:11 >> So moved.
12:52:11 >> Second.
12:52:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: That were submit to the clerk's
12:52:14 office, legal department, council, or anyone else that
12:52:17 was breathing.
12:52:18 All in favor of that.
12:52:19 I have a motion by Mr. Reddick, seconded by Mr. Cohen.
12:52:22 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying
12:52:26 The Ayes have it unanimously.
12:52:28 Anything else to come before this council meeting?
12:52:29 We stand adjourned.
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