CITY OF TAMPA
Community Redevelopment Agency (CRA)
Thursday, September 8, 2011
9:00 Scheduled CRA
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09:26:31 >> I yield to Community Redevelopment Agency chair Reddick.
09:26:35 >>FRANK REDDICK: How much time do you need, about two
09:26:47 You're ready?
09:26:48 Thank you, Madam Chair.
09:26:52 We will now call the CRA Community Redevelopment Agency
09:26:55 meeting to order.
09:26:56 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
09:27:07 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Present.
09:27:09 >>MARY MULHERN: Here.
09:27:10 >>HARRY COHEN: Here.
09:27:11 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Here.
09:27:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: Here.
09:27:13 >> Good morning, board.
09:27:17 First on our agenda we have Ms. Best from the East Tampa
09:27:22 community advisory to be give us an update on the activities
09:27:26 of East Tampa.
09:27:27 Ms. Best.
09:27:28 >> Good morning.
09:27:37 First, I must take a moment to announce that I received a
09:27:43 phone call this morning just before I left home from Denise
09:27:47 James, Denise McKay James.
09:27:51 Her sister passed yesterday and that's why she's not here
09:27:54 with us.
09:27:55 And I am asking council to keep her in prayers.
09:28:00 The James family, because their sister passed, and I think
09:28:10 she said complication of pneumonia.
09:28:12 So it's Irene McKay that passed, and we do solicit your
09:28:17 I want to thank you for this opportunity to come to you.
09:28:20 I bring you greetings from the members of the East Tampa
09:28:24 Community Advisory Committee.
09:28:27 As I said, Denise is not present, who is the vice chair, but
09:28:31 I would also let you know that I do have some of the
09:28:34 advisory members here to hold me up and boost me on.
09:28:38 Would you please stand, those of you on the advisory
09:28:46 And we also have some of our other committee members.
09:28:55 Stand up.
09:29:02 [ Applause ]
09:29:06 For the record, I want you to know who the advisory members
09:29:11 Richard Dean, William Dennis III, Ernest Coney, Jr., Essie
09:29:21 Simms, Jr., Jensen, Billi Griffin, Evelyn Smith and Tatiana
09:29:28 As you know, as chair of the advisory committee, I also am
09:29:31 chair of an 8-year-old East Tampa Community Revitalization
09:29:41 Partnership Group.
09:29:42 And I bring you greetings from those, because we do, as I
09:29:46 said, have some of the standing committee members here.
09:29:49 Today I am only going to try to focus on the Advisory
09:29:52 Committee role.
09:29:55 As you know -- and I heard by watching the CRA, many of the
09:30:01 CRAs have given reports that they didn't take the
09:30:04 financial hit that the East Tampa did.
09:30:06 As you know, that we, between 2008 and 2009, we really
09:30:15 peaked out at over $6 million in our CRA.
09:30:17 But today, as you also know, the cause of the foreclosures
09:30:23 and the tax revenue, when we got notice we were less than
09:30:30 $31,000 of a budget, and as community citizens we were
09:30:37 shocked, disappointed, we didn't know where our money kind
09:30:40 of like disappeared.
09:30:41 But thanks to the staff, they quickly reminded us that, hey,
09:30:44 we do have some unspent money, that after three years you
09:30:48 roll it over.
09:30:49 And we had over $800,000 that we had to start making some
09:30:55 But more than anything else, the committee started thinking
09:30:57 about all the good things that we have done over the years.
09:31:01 And one of the things, I am going to just highlight -- and I
09:31:04 notice that Councilman Murman said we have a real busy
09:31:12 I was going to give you five, but I am going to give you two
09:31:15 if you will just let me.
09:31:16 One of the things I do want to point out is the housing.
09:31:19 And if you would recall, since 2005 that we have provided
09:31:24 over 1.2 million of gift funds in the renovation of over 55
09:31:30 We completed $1.5 million, and with lots and lots of new
09:31:38 features in that facility.
09:31:41 We redesigned two retention pond that maybe of you heard
09:31:44 about and probably have visited.
09:31:45 One in particular was the Herbert Carrington, that was a
09:31:51 million dollars, and the other was the Robert Cole again a
09:31:54 million dollars of TIF funds that we used.
09:31:57 We also constructed and donated -- not donated -- paid TIF
09:32:03 dollars of over a million dollars for the construction of
09:32:06 the police station.
09:32:08 Now, even though we have a limited budget, one of the things
09:32:13 that staff let us do is start thinking about where do we go
09:32:16 from here?
09:32:17 How are we going to come back?
09:32:19 How are we going to survive the difficult times?
09:32:24 Well, some good news.
09:32:25 One of the investments that we made in terms of the
09:32:29 satellite office of helping citizens find out about job
09:32:34 opportunities, orb at least finding out about how to start a
09:32:38 business, and doing some real good business classes.
09:32:43 Two of our members have been in those classes, and I'm one,
09:32:46 and I know that William has visited.
09:32:48 They are great.
09:32:49 We have gotten good response from that group.
09:32:51 So it was a good investment as far as I'm concerned.
09:32:56 One of the good things that I heard about from this is that
09:32:58 we have over 300 new businesses that have come in to East
09:33:02 Tampa in the last year.
09:33:05 Good news for East Tampa.
09:33:06 Now, we have got to have a plan.
09:33:08 How are we going to work that 300 and make sure that we get
09:33:12 the benefits?
09:33:13 I'm suggesting -- and I know that staff will support this --
09:33:16 is that one of the things, we know who they are because we
09:33:21 got their names and addresses, and we are going to start a
09:33:24 real campaign getting to know them, letting them know we
09:33:27 exist, but more than anything else, you have some job
09:33:32 Let me tell you what we have job training offices in East
09:33:36 Tampa, and tell us what jobs you need and what you are
09:33:41 looking for so that we can gore into the community and match
09:33:43 that up.
09:33:44 So we see our way coming out of it.
09:33:47 Another way that we see also coming out is through a
09:33:51 proposal that was approved, and we are the only CRA that has
09:33:56 a plan in place.
09:34:01 This is jobs through the CRA, and it's through the East
09:34:04 Tampa group, but more specifically through CDC of Tampa.
09:34:11 They are partners with the Envirofocus group.
09:34:16 And they do the training.
09:34:17 When they do the training we are using TIF funds to be help
09:34:21 do the training and they are guaranteed some jobs, and even
09:34:26 these are not minimum wage jobs.
09:34:28 Already we have had 20 jobs through this operation.
09:34:33 The other thing I want to be share with you is we do know we
09:34:36 are going to be entering into the stormwater project that's
09:34:40 on 30th street on Hillsborough at 30th street, and
09:34:47 that is over $300,000 of TIF funds that is a match that we
09:34:55 are going to be doing some projects in East Tampa through
09:34:58 that system.
09:34:58 The proposed 22nd street grocery store is still in
09:35:02 acquisition, and it's coming.
09:35:06 One of the proudest initiatives that I'm proud of is that
09:35:12 through -- and I'm changing hats now -- through the East
09:35:15 Tampa community partnership, one of the things that we kept
09:35:21 hearing from the community is that how do we access this
09:35:25 We hear about all these businesses.
09:35:27 But let's say a private group or a citizen wants to find
09:35:31 out, how do you access and how do you use this money?
09:35:34 And we came up with an instrument that we call -- this is in
09:35:38 2009-a neighborhood project application that came through
09:35:42 the committee of the planning and evaluation, and it was
09:35:47 approved by City Council, but it opened the door and it
09:35:51 appeared the community that if you meet the standards of,
09:35:57 one, that you are going to be using this for the acquisition
09:36:01 of properties, the margin of property construction, of
09:36:05 infrastructure, sidewalk, lighting, if you know what you are
09:36:09 coming for is in relationship to this, you can use TIF funds
09:36:13 for that, but we didn't know that before.
09:36:15 So it is opened the eyes that other people are saying is a
09:36:21 I would like to say, I do have some concerns that I would
09:36:24 like to bring to your attention.
09:36:27 One is that we, in the past, when we had our meetings, and
09:36:33 we made decisions, we usually send a formal letter to you,
09:36:39 and we are asking you with your permission if we can
09:36:41 continue doing that, and especially when it's in terms of
09:36:45 money adjustment.
09:36:45 We would like to continue this, if you look for a letter
09:36:49 from the advisory committee stating that we did have input
09:36:53 and we did approve it, okay?
09:36:55 The next thing is that -- I know I have talked with Mr.
09:36:59 Johnson about the minutes.
09:37:00 I don't know if you are aware, but the minutes of East
09:37:02 Tampa, which is an eight-year group of people, we worked
09:37:06 hard in East Tampa.
09:37:07 We feel that we are a model group of people.
09:37:10 And for that hard work of volunteerism, we need to document
09:37:14 our records.
09:37:15 We have no documentation on file in that office that needs
09:37:18 to be done.
09:37:19 And what I ask is we are going to try to work with staff in
09:37:24 terms of come up with -- oh, because we need to pull all
09:37:28 those past records and have them in a hard copy and on a
09:37:33 disk in that office for the history of this organization,
09:37:36 because we have made, in my mind -- and I have been there
09:37:39 for eight years -- we have made a lot of inroads in terms of
09:37:42 showing that the community is educated, is empowered to make
09:37:45 their own decisions about their lifestyle, and the same for
09:37:49 what we have done in the past four years with the advisory
09:37:52 That needs to be filed somewhere.
09:37:53 So we are going to be working on that.
09:37:58 One of the things that you all might have to check with
09:38:00 legal counsel on, and that is that the CAC representative,
09:38:07 if one representative could sit in on when you are
09:38:11 negotiating properties in East Tampa as an observe observer,
09:38:17 just to have see what happens.
09:38:18 So I know that's a legal thing that we might need to save up
09:38:23 but that was one thing we voted on and we did want to ask
09:38:28 council to address for us.
09:38:29 The honky-tonk.
09:38:30 Many of you know that it's already been demolished.
09:38:34 But I do want to put on the record that the neighborhood
09:38:38 watch leader asked that she be a part and notified of any
09:38:44 decisions about the honky-tonk.
09:38:46 And that the community has a chance to have input into if
09:38:51 there's going to be -- whatever is going to happen with the
09:38:56 We also, as a committee, said we would like to make sure
09:39:00 that there is no duplication of services.
09:39:03 What we have as far as recreation, that we have something
09:39:11 totally different, if it's recreation, that it doesn't
09:39:17 interfere with programs we are already doing.
09:39:19 >>FRANK REDDICK: Ms. Best, let me interrupt you for a
09:39:24 Are you saying to this board that the East Tampa community
09:39:28 advisory group has no input in a decision made --
09:39:36 >> I didn't say that.
09:39:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: Well, when you are saying you want input
09:39:41 like honky-tonk, are you meeting with Ed Johnson?
09:39:46 Has he given you the opportunity to have input on any
09:39:49 decisions that are made?
09:39:51 >> Yeah.
09:39:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: Well, I just wanted to make that clear
09:39:54 because I got the impression when you said she wants
09:39:58 decisions on honky-tonk that should be done at your
09:40:02 community advisory meeting.
09:40:03 >> We did.
09:40:04 But I was bringing things from you, from what was brought to
09:40:07 the advisory committee, and I thought in terms of bringing
09:40:10 you up to date on what the community is saying.
09:40:12 Yes, that is in the record.
09:40:14 There is no problem with that.
09:40:18 One of the things that I do want in the record is some be
09:40:23 applied agreement that was done with the office space at the
09:40:26 police station.
09:40:27 And as you know, Mr. Reddick, you was a part of that group,
09:40:30 that when we gave the funds of a 1.5 million or more for the
09:40:35 building of the police station, one of the conditions was
09:40:39 that East Tampa staff would be housed, that they would have
09:40:45 And we just want to be sure that that remains, okay?
09:40:49 Now, I want to change roles and invite you to something.
09:40:54 The East Tampa Community Revitalization Partnership meeting,
09:40:58 two meetings, on us the, September 13th at 10:00, and on
09:41:02 Tuesday, September 20th at 6:30.
09:41:05 Both of these meetings will be at the Ragan Park, and you
09:41:09 are invited.
09:41:10 I want to thank the East Tampa development staff, Michelle,
09:41:17 Ed Johnson, for their support.
09:41:19 To all on the city departments, I want to thank them for
09:41:23 their support because they have been there for me.
09:41:25 On behalf of Denise James, Ernest coney and William Dennis,
09:41:30 each of these persons has spent four years on the advisory
09:41:34 committee, and applies, eight years of service.
09:41:37 We are termed out as members, and as of October 1 will no
09:41:42 longer be on the board.
09:41:43 We just wanted you to be aware of that.
09:41:45 Again, to the CRA council, I want to thank you for allowing
09:41:49 me to share with you about the East Tampa reCAC group.
09:41:57 It has been a full-time commitment on my part, and it has
09:42:01 been something that I have enjoyed, and it's something that
09:42:06 I think -- I really think it was the best thing that ever
09:42:10 happened to me.
09:42:11 We now know that the eyes are on East Tampa, and that's why
09:42:16 I am wearing this shirt that I am wearing.
09:42:18 I want you to nobody that we really feel -- we are really
09:42:21 proud of what's going on in East Tampa.
09:42:23 I do have something I would like to share with you.
09:42:28 A newsletter.
09:42:35 And that's my report.
09:42:43 Thank you.
09:42:44 Any questions?
09:42:44 >>FRANK REDDICK: Any questions from the board to Ms. Best?
09:42:52 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
09:42:53 I guess this is the official notice to all the other
09:42:56 volunteer agencies and committees that Ms. Best is
09:43:07 available, because she's been working on this --
09:43:10 >> Eight years.
09:43:11 >> Right.
09:43:12 For eight years and she has been the chair of the citizens
09:43:14 advisory committee for four, and you have a two-year?
09:43:19 >> One year.
09:43:20 >>MARY MULHERN: So you have a one-year break?
09:43:22 >> Yes.
09:43:23 >>MARY MULHERN: So she's available and she's also available
09:43:26 for paid work.
09:43:28 She doesn't just work for free.
09:43:32 And I just want to thank you and say that I think it may be
09:43:40 just Councilwoman Capin and I that attended the last --
09:43:44 maybe some of you attended as candidates, but we attended
09:43:48 the last meeting that you held in your neighborhood that you
09:43:52 invited council to, and it was incredible.
09:43:56 I've never seen so many people at a neighborhood meeting,
09:44:01 and to thank you for the outreach you did to bring all those
09:44:05 people out, and thank the CRA staff, also, for being there.
09:44:11 And we had people lined up asking questions.
09:44:14 And they got their questions answered and followed up by
09:44:18 council -- well, by the CRA board and by our staff.
09:44:22 So it's just been fantastic working with you, and just want
09:44:30 to thank you.
09:44:32 I can't say enough, but we have a lot of other board.
09:44:35 So go to Tampa GOV.net and we can put you on and I know that
09:44:43 you will still be there for your community.
09:44:45 Thank you so much.
09:44:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you [ Applause ]
09:44:57 >>MARY MULHERN: And I wanted to -- I don't know, is Ed
09:45:01 Johnson here?
09:45:04 Could I ask just a few follow-up questions?
09:45:07 >> Ed Johnson, CRA manager for East Tampa.
09:45:14 >>MARY MULHERN: I just wanted to ask about the minutes, and
09:45:20 Mr. Territo, because when I started four years ago, I think
09:45:24 that's when we kind of rewrote some of the rules for the
09:45:27 advisory committees.
09:45:28 So it became, for all the CRA advisory committees, it
09:45:33 became -- their meetings were in the sunshine.
09:45:36 So there was even more attention paid to that.
09:45:40 I know the minutes are there.
09:45:42 And if you could just help get them a CD and hard copy of
09:45:50 the minutes so they can have that record of what they have
09:45:52 been doing for the last eight years.
09:45:53 >> That won't be a problem.
09:45:56 We discussed that just previously this morning.
09:45:59 What Mrs. Best is referring to, all of our meetings are in
09:46:02 the sunshine, and we do take copious notes on our minutes,
09:46:06 and we record and copy all of our minutes.
09:46:09 They are in our computer system.
09:46:11 And the paper copies that we maintain, they are in the
09:46:15 archives, because we have been around so long, the majority
09:46:18 of our minutes are in the archives.
09:46:20 So she's asking for us to retrieve all of those minutes,
09:46:23 copy them, it takes time, and we have agreed that if she
09:46:29 would provide some assistance from the community to be able
09:46:32 to help douse that, we would be happy to make some hard
09:46:35 But for the record, all of our minute are documented and are
09:46:38 on file.
09:46:41 >>MARY MULHERN: You have some clerical staff of that can
09:46:44 maybe do that for them ever?
09:46:46 >> I have a part-time clerical staff because of the
09:46:49 So it's not an easy task.
09:46:51 >>MARY MULHERN: Right.
09:46:52 Well, if they would get to work on that and maybe in the
09:46:55 future just always do it as the minutes occur and didn't
09:46:59 them after each meeting, you know, once a month.
09:47:02 It doesn't seem like it would be --
09:47:05 >> And all of our minutes are sent electronically to every
09:47:11 So every meeting that we have ever had, every minutes that
09:47:15 we ever took, went to each one of those members every month.
09:47:21 But what Ms. Best is referring to, she wants a historical
09:47:24 copy of minutes to be maintained in the office, which we do
09:47:27 have, but it electronic, it's not paper.
09:47:32 >>MARY MULHERN: I think because the membership changes and
09:47:34 all of that, and these are all volunteers who are working
09:47:38 full time for their community at no cost to us, maybe the
09:47:42 staff that the CRA is paying for could help them with this.
09:47:46 >> We'll address it.
09:47:48 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
09:47:48 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Be thank you, Councilman Reddick.
09:47:57 Ms. Best, I know that we had a discussion about how I wish
09:48:01 we could have one of you in every neighborhood.
09:48:06 And when we figure out how to clone you, I will be the first
09:48:10 making that request.
09:48:13 The issue of purchasing of property and whether or not
09:48:17 someone can be there to observe the negotiations, I'm not
09:48:20 sure that's going to be legally possible but I can tell you
09:48:23 that between Councilman Reddick and myself, we are watching
09:48:26 every transaction very carefully, and I have already gotten
09:48:30 a reputation with staff to be ready to answer my questions,
09:48:34 because I check every transaction.
09:48:39 So if --
09:48:41 >>FRANK REDDICK: You're so right.
09:48:43 >>LISA MONTELIONE: If there's ever a concern that anyone
09:48:46 has, please contact my office.
09:48:48 >> Be thank you.
09:48:51 Thank you.
09:48:52 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And Mr. Johnson knows this because we
09:48:54 have had conversations about any property that anyone is
09:48:59 purchasing whether it's CRA, or for other purposes.
09:49:05 I do want to say that I have been involved with the CDC of
09:49:09 Tampa, and the work bench program grant work that they did,
09:49:14 and this is a fine example of a nonprofit working with the
09:49:19 private sector, and I had the pleasure to meet with and talk
09:49:22 with the owner of Envirofocus, and they have worked very
09:49:28 hard to create an environment where individuals from the
09:49:32 community have been the opportunity to be trained and hired
09:49:38 by operations within the community.
09:49:41 So it's a program that I have been off and on talking to Mr.
09:49:48 Coney about, bringing to other areas of the city, because
09:49:51 they really bring in the companies at the very beginning and
09:49:55 work with them to have employees trained for specific
09:50:01 positions they are looking for.
09:50:03 And that's really very, very helpful.
09:50:05 Just training people in the community, and hoping that they
09:50:09 will find a job in this environment, in this economy, is not
09:50:14 a model that has worked.
09:50:16 But if you work with a company who is looking to fill
09:50:20 positions, and you model your training program for the
09:50:24 positions they are looking to hire people for, it's very,
09:50:29 very successful, and I congratulate Mr. Coney on developing
09:50:32 that model.
09:50:33 So keep up the committee.
09:50:37 I'm sure you will be keeping tabs on them, just because you
09:50:40 won't be an official member doesn't mean you won't be
09:50:43 sitting there in the wings watching.
09:50:44 So thanks very much for your service.
09:50:45 >> Thank you, thank you, thank you.
09:50:48 >>MARY MULHERN: I'm sorry to speak twice but I just wanted
09:50:52 to add something to what Councilwoman Montelione said.
09:50:56 I think with regard to the property -- and we may want to
09:51:00 the hear from our attorney on this -- but I don't think
09:51:03 that -- we are not, council and the board, is not even
09:51:08 involved in those.
09:51:09 So that's something the city has to do on their own.
09:51:12 However, whenever there is some negotiation, I think it
09:51:16 would be appropriate, if we are not already doing that, with
09:51:22 TIF dollars, that the administration brief chairman Reddick,
09:51:28 brief the chair of the CRA board on what's happening, and
09:51:32 also with regard to the property, the honky-tonk property
09:51:36 which has already been purchased and demolished, that
09:51:39 perhaps he should have a briefing on that, too.
09:51:46 I understand that, you know, that kind of negotiation we
09:51:51 can't be involved with, but maybe if we just had a little
09:51:54 more conversation or communication.
09:52:00 >> Communication is the queen word.
09:52:02 >>MARY MULHERN: With the chair.
09:52:03 Thank you.
09:52:03 >>FRANK REDDICK: Other questions from the board?
09:52:07 Thank you, Ms. Best.
09:52:08 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Good morning.
09:52:18 In your folders, you have an update of activity in the
09:52:21 various CRAs.
09:52:23 I would like to point out some highlights.
09:52:24 Before I start, you were given copies of the potential
09:52:28 budget book, and if you have any edit or changes, I ask that
09:52:36 you please forward them.
09:52:37 In downtown, the CAMLS project officially capped off.
09:52:45 It looks like they will be opening in February as promised.
09:52:47 You should be receiving an invitation to a ribbon cutting
09:52:54 from the workforce housing project here in downtown.
09:52:56 That's the downtown CRA, one of the sponsors.
09:52:59 Keep your eyes peeled for.
09:53:01 That it's a beautiful project.
09:53:03 Ybor, we have a ribbon cutting on the 13th for C.H.
09:53:17 A great month for ribbon cuttings.
09:53:20 Bring your scissors.
09:53:21 In the Channel District, related group has filed for
09:53:24 building permits so we'll bring out our ceremonial shovels
09:53:28 soon and have a groundbreaking on that, I am assume in the
09:53:31 next 20 days.
09:53:32 Drew Park, they are finishing up their beautification plan
09:53:36 and should have that finished this month for presentation.
09:53:39 East Tampa, they are working on their East Tampa progress
09:53:42 report, which is the annual report on what goes on in the
09:53:45 neighborhood, and we should be seeing that, should be
09:53:49 wrapped up this month.
09:53:52 At Tampa Heights, the city is putting out an RFP on the
09:53:55 water works building to try to help spur some construction
09:53:59 and activity in that neighborhood, so that will be hitting
09:54:01 the streets soon.
09:54:03 And in Central Park, good news and bad news.
09:54:06 Good news is they are going vertical on their first
09:54:10 The bad news was that they were not successful in the $23
09:54:15 million they attempted to get for the choice neighborhood
09:54:17 So they are looking for more alternative sources of
09:54:20 financing to continue the project.
09:54:25 >>FRANK REDDICK: Councilwoman Montelione.
09:54:32 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Mr. McDonaugh, do we know why they were
09:54:36 not successful?
09:54:38 Often they will receive a response back identifying the
09:54:43 deficiencies in the grant application.
09:54:44 >> I do not know the specifics.
09:54:48 I will find out and forward that information to you.
09:54:52 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I have spoken on this meantimes, and I
09:54:54 know the mayor's staff is watching and listening.
09:54:56 I really believe that a grant specialist would really,
09:55:01 really help.
09:55:02 I mean, losing a $23 million grant, my heart just sank.
09:55:07 And perhaps if we supplemented the staff -- they do a great
09:55:13 We do receive some, you know, funding from grant
09:55:17 applications, and within the individual departments people
09:55:23 have been very good at writing and receiving grant funds,
09:55:29 but if we had more staff pourer on the grant applications,
09:55:35 perhaps we would be able to secure some additional funding
09:55:38 that way.
09:55:39 >> I would have to look.
09:55:41 I'm not certain that the Tampa Housing Authority did not
09:55:43 have help in filling out their application.
09:55:47 I thought they had.
09:55:48 But I'll get an answer for you.
09:55:50 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
09:55:53 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Our third agenda item, if there are no
09:55:58 more questions, policy discussion about bringing contracts
09:56:02 back to the board.
09:56:04 There is a draft there provided by the CRA attorney.
09:56:09 Just as a side bar, there are two items on the agenda today
09:56:14 that normally would have gone directly to City Council, but
09:56:17 we pulled them off the City Council agenda because of
09:56:20 concerns raised at a prior meeting by the CRA board and one
09:56:25 of which was the contract with Central Parking for cleaning
09:56:29 services in Ybor.
09:56:31 That was a contract that was previously approved by the CRA
09:56:34 board, and by City Council, and had new elements in it, and
09:56:40 based on comments that the CRA board had throughout this
09:56:46 process, I had them removed from the City Council agenda and
09:56:49 put on this agenda.
09:56:51 So again, the CRA board can take a look at them before they
09:56:54 are sent on to the City Council.
09:56:57 >>FRANK REDDICK: Councilman Suarez?
09:57:09 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. McDonaugh, this was discussed before.
09:57:12 You said there was an amendment to the contract, and then it
09:57:14 was -- you pulled it off the table.
09:57:17 You know, we need to get a real sense of what we are talking
09:57:21 about here.
09:57:22 When we approve a contract --
09:57:26 >> It had extensions built into the contract.
09:57:30 Excuse me.
09:57:30 >>MIKE SUAREZ: It was renewal of the contract?
09:57:34 >> That's correct.
09:57:35 Which was provided in the initial contract.
09:57:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: The terms of which were agreed to by a
09:57:39 previous CRA board?
09:57:41 >>BOB McDONAUGH: That's correct, sir.
09:57:43 >>MIKE SUAREZ: The question I had, and maybe Mr. Territo
09:57:46 can answer this, too, when we approve a contract as a CRA
09:57:52 board regardless of who is on the board -- for example there
09:57:55 were lots of contract approved before I was elected.
09:58:00 How much time and effort is that going to bring if we have
09:58:02 to bring it back for approval of an automatic renewal in
09:58:07 that particular case?
09:58:13 >>SAL TERRITO: Legal department.
09:58:15 (off microphone) there may be a delay in the contract.
09:58:24 If it goes beyond the deadline, then we continue --
09:58:31 >> At the same rate of pay?
09:58:33 >>SAL TERRITO: But if for some reason it's not allowed then
09:58:37 we have a problem because now we have a contract.
09:58:41 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Okay.
09:58:43 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Again, we just need to build that in.
09:58:49 I mean, if that's the pleasure of the board, I'm more than
09:58:52 I have spoken to contracts management, and if that's going
09:58:56 to be the normal process, we will just vote it into our time
09:58:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: The only problem I had is I don't want to be
09:59:04 as a regular course of operation that we continually bring
09:59:07 back contracts that were approved from prior boards, unless
09:59:10 there are some significant changes to that particular
09:59:12 contract, because if we did that, we would be here all day
09:59:17 on CRA business alone, let alone City Council business.
09:59:20 So to me, you know, I don't look at it as, you know, some of
09:59:27 these things wreath have to be contracted out by the
09:59:29 developer to build a particular project, or to the city in
09:59:35 terms of whatever project it is in terms of parks and
09:59:37 recreation or any other department.
09:59:39 I mean and my viewpoint is, if it's already agreed upon by
09:59:42 the CRA, we have the power to agree on that particular
09:59:48 contract R.I don't see why it has any reason to be
09:59:50 necessarily come back.
09:59:51 I just want to find out if -- in the normal course of
09:59:55 business you don't revisit a contract unless there are
09:59:57 significant changes, and you have to agree to those
09:59:59 significant changes.
10:00:00 So when you said amendment, what you restated that it was
10:00:09 automatically going to be renewed and it was brought back to
10:00:11 us to take a look at it a second time.
10:00:13 >> And again we have the option of looking at things based
10:00:19 on age, based on a dollar threshold, there were some real
10:00:29 estate remainders that were going to City Council that
10:00:31 Hillsborough not been formally brought to the CRA board.
10:00:34 Now, when the 22nd street project was approved, a portion of
10:00:38 the money for the 22nd street project were identified for
10:00:43 real estate acquisition of right-of-way.
10:00:45 And so technically it was within the contract, but those
10:00:50 specific purchases were not blocked and the remainder of
10:00:54 parcels, almost $700.
10:00:56 So I'm just trying to get a handle from the board.
10:01:00 >>FRANK REDDICK: Well, the board, I think at the last
10:01:04 meeting, we put a motion in effect for you to come to our
10:01:07 meeting on the 22nd, with a recommendation of how we can
10:01:12 expedite this process, and to avoid what Mr. Suarez was
10:01:18 talking about.
10:01:21 I think on the 22nd, if I stand corrected, we all want to
10:01:26 move this process forward, back and forth.
10:01:30 We are hoping that the recommendation that you have made on
10:01:32 the 22nd will allow us to vote on to the move forward.
10:01:38 That's my understanding.
10:01:39 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Well, the next time that this will be up
10:01:45 for discussion will be at the next CRA board meeting.
10:01:47 What we have done is provided some language to take a look
10:01:50 at, to consider, and you can make -- I can make some
10:01:55 suggestions and we can have a formal approval at next
10:01:58 month's meeting.
10:02:05 >>SAL TERRITO: And none of these -- not like something we
10:02:14 It's just a matter of we want to see it first at the CRA.
10:02:18 >>FRANK REDDICK: So we scheduled it at a regular meeting on
10:02:25 the 22nd.
10:02:26 I think that would be fine.
10:02:29 For discussion.
10:02:30 That will be fine.
10:02:30 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Item number 4 was concerning the yes
10:02:38 program in Ybor.
10:02:40 Mr. Pardo is here to answer questions on that.
10:02:45 >>VINCE PARDO: Good morning.
10:02:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: I want to tell you the reason we are
10:02:48 actually here on this, is it was brought to my attention, I
10:02:53 think some other council members' attention, that the yes
10:02:58 program as of October 8th, those who are employed will
10:03:02 be eliminated, those employes will be dropped.
10:03:08 So we want to get some information, is that correct?
10:03:11 And what's the status of the yes program?
10:03:17 >>VINCE PARDO: Manager, Ybor development.
10:03:21 If we can go to the Elmo.
10:03:28 What you see hear, the yes team contract is paid for out of
10:03:39 two different TIFs.
10:03:41 Ybor 1 TIF which is the commercial core, and -- pretty much
10:03:48 the commercial core from Palm Avenue down to the streetcar
10:03:54 tracks which curve.
10:03:55 22nd street over to Nuccio.
10:04:04 The question is the Ybor 2 TIF which is primarily
10:04:08 Walk see on the northwest of the area around the German
10:04:12 America club, the area south of the tracks and juts up not
10:04:18 to Adamo Drive.
10:04:19 That is the boundary line for the CRA, and over to 26th
10:04:24 And the budget deliberations this past year, working with
10:04:29 our budget committee, with ICDC and -- the YCDC board, you
10:04:36 heard from East Tampa earlier dealing with reductions in
10:04:39 those particular budgets.
10:04:44 What you see here is a comparison from the current year,
10:04:48 fiscal year 11 to fiscal year 12, for the Ybor 1 TIF, and a
10:04:55 reduction this year because of some actions from the budget
10:05:01 The Ybor 2 TIF in the current year is $114,000 covering the
10:05:05 geographic area we just showed.
10:05:07 And remember our clean team services is almost like we are
10:05:13 living in a planned development, we take care of no personal
10:05:18 property, it's all right-of-way, it is coordinating with
10:05:21 code enforcement, coordinating with clean city, in those
10:05:24 areas that are their responsibilities, vacant city lots in
10:05:29 that area are handled by that.
10:05:30 We take care of all the CSX property, and will come out
10:05:36 twice a year and we don't want people leaving our garage.
10:05:39 So again, this is all areas where it's in the rights-of-way
10:05:48 and make clear it's not private property.
10:05:50 But as you see, the reduction we are dealing with the
10:05:55 Once you back out the streetcar assessment, once you back
10:05:58 out our code enforcement capabilities, and a drastic
10:06:05 reduction in the Ybor TIF, remember 40% we talked about in
10:06:08 the budget, over 40% reduction in Ybor 2 TIF this year.
10:06:13 Because of that, I have allocated what's currently in the
10:06:16 budget, what you are seeing twice in entire budget
10:06:19 presentations, a total of 69,221.
10:06:22 Only about 41,000 of that is actually out of the fiscal year
10:06:28 '12 TIF.
10:06:30 I allocated as you heard from other CRA managers, we did
10:06:33 have some interest earned, and that interest earning of
10:06:37 $23,000 actually brought it up to the 69,000.
10:06:41 Or else it would have been much more drastic than that.
10:06:43 So that particular reduction, Councilman, is get with the
10:06:51 contractor and talk about reductions.
10:06:53 If you go back to the area, the area from 22nd street here
10:07:04 over to 26th is in the East Tampa neighborhood
10:07:10 The rest of the area from 22nd street all the way over to
10:07:13 Nebraska is in historic neighborhood association.
10:07:20 I think you met Tony.
10:07:23 Frank is the president along the east.
10:07:25 The east association president at the budget committee
10:07:29 meeting, and at the YCDC board meeting, said they would
10:07:33 rather forgo yes team services on that eastern boundary.
10:07:38 Interstate state, Adamo, 22nd to 26th that long
10:07:42 recollection tangle going in there.
10:07:44 The president of the investment said they don't want
10:07:48 They liked the yes team service and want to keep that.
10:07:50 Because of that recommendation by the president of the east,
10:07:53 we have a budget coming up October 1 which will totally
10:07:57 eliminate yes team services east of 22nd street, again at
10:08:01 the recommendation of that neighborhood president, because
10:08:03 she wanted to see more money go towards the East 7th Avenue
10:08:08 streetscape project, which is a totally different project,
10:08:13 earmarking money the last two years for.
10:08:14 That is why the reduction is there.
10:08:17 That reduction will be about a two and a quarter full-time
10:08:25 equivalent reduction employees by that contractor.
10:08:29 And this is not city employee.
10:08:31 This is a contract we did and awarded to Central Parking
10:08:34 systems to be our yes team, the last two award.
10:08:39 So that is the reduction that we are talking about in
10:08:41 eliminating yes team services east of 22nd street.
10:08:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: How many people totally are employed by
10:08:49 the yes team?
10:08:52 >>VINCE PARDO: Between full time and employees and
10:08:53 temporaries, approximately 10 to 12.
10:08:55 >>FRANK REDDICK: 10 to 12.
10:08:59 So with the reduction, you are looking at eliminating two
10:09:02 full-time positions and one part-time?
10:09:06 >>VINCE PARDO: Those positions, I would have to look,
10:09:09 because as a cost savings measure in earlier years, they
10:09:12 have now fewer full time employees, and they have temporary
10:09:16 employees in the service, and obviously not paying some of
10:09:19 the fringe benefits.
10:09:20 Some of those temporary employees have been with us three or
10:09:23 four years.
10:09:24 They have actually been employed through a temporary agency.
10:09:26 So I'm not sure what the combination will be, but the money
10:09:30 is about a 2.25, two and a half full time employee
10:09:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: And there's no reserves funds anywhere to
10:09:42 maintain those two positions?
10:09:45 >> Be not with TIF moneys in that regard.
10:09:50 The budget that you have seen prior to -- and I will put
10:09:55 this on the Elmo.
10:09:58 If you look at the minimum number of dollars, actually, this
10:10:13 TIF is down to $127,000.
10:10:20 If you look at the reduced code enforcement capability, one
10:10:25 time a weekend now, on evening weekend, code enforcement has
10:10:30 been reduced by about 50%.
10:10:32 So we are negotiating.
10:10:36 The 25,000 that was identified for the yes team to maintain
10:10:42 those services originally around 90,000, was approved by the
10:10:47 board into a holding pattern of $25.
10:10:51 15,000 is the allocation for the streetcar.
10:10:54 And the yes team 4500.
10:10:58 The TIF is 45.
10:11:00 69 is only because I am recommending in the budget that you
10:11:02 have seen that we use interest earned about 22,000 of
10:11:08 And staff and operations 40,000.
10:11:11 It's a very minimal budget.
10:11:13 Very limited budget.
10:11:15 The budget committee worked very hard at services in Ybor 1.
10:11:21 I have in my recommended budget a reduction for yes team
10:11:25 services, know it to the level you see here.
10:11:27 This is the committee's recommendation.
10:11:28 It is not the staff recommendation.
10:11:29 But what the neighborhood association says they want to
10:11:33 eliminate as a service in that particular area.
10:11:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: Any questions from the board?
10:11:47 >>YVONNE CAPIN: At any point the public -- I don't know if I
10:11:51 want to ask my question now or wait for public comment.
10:11:54 >>FRANK REDDICK: It's coming next.
10:12:01 Be there are no questions from the board?
10:12:03 All right.
10:12:03 Thank you.
10:12:07 At this time we'll have public comments.
10:12:09 Anyone wishing to speak will have three minutes to speak on
10:12:12 any matter on the agenda.
10:12:16 Please identify yourself.
10:12:19 You have three minutes.
10:12:20 Thank you.
10:12:20 >> Be thank you.
10:12:21 I am Geraldine Williams Shaw, attorney at law.
10:12:25 I'm also a native of east Ybor and living in the house I was
10:12:31 born and raised in.
10:12:33 I am also a property owner, 11th Avenue, 10th Avenue
10:12:36 and 12th Avenue and I adamantly disagree with using
10:12:41 moneys from the layoffs of two-plus -- I don't not how we
10:12:48 are going to break them up-two and a half or two and a
10:12:51 quarter of our yes team members who work on our
10:13:00 They are very important to our community.
10:13:02 And my son is going to come up and address the specifics
10:13:04 related to how important that is.
10:13:06 But we want those young men to remain where they are, doing
10:13:10 what they are doing, because it has benefited our community
10:13:14 and it's very visible.
10:13:16 Now, I went on the 7th Avenue to see where the cityscape
10:13:22 would expand down to 26th street, and I see commercial
10:13:26 and industrial properties.
10:13:28 I don't see where visitors to Ybor City -- and they are not
10:13:35 doing it now -- will walk from 22nd street to 26th
10:13:38 street and need to sit down on benches that will be bought
10:13:40 with this money.
10:13:41 And my understanding is that the trees and shrubbery that
10:13:49 they want to purchase to put with the benches can be gotten
10:13:53 from the Parks and Recreation Department.
10:13:56 They don't need to lay off these young men.
10:13:59 All but one of these young men, all of them, are black young
10:14:05 men, and I looked at the unemployment rate of black men, and
10:14:09 it is so high they don't even want to let us know what it
10:14:12 is, because so many of them aren't even counting
10:14:15 unemployment because they are no longer looking for jobs.
10:14:18 So we don't need -- my position as a big time property owner
10:14:23 and as a native resident, is that we are not giving up our
10:14:26 money to benches and for trees.
10:14:28 Now let me tell you, I saw son alternatives.
10:14:32 One is that we have public service for private property over
10:14:38 in east Ybor, between 3:00 in the morning and 5:30, the
10:14:42 police come and surveil the properties that are owned by --
10:14:49 and I can give you the addresses -- and those people, I
10:14:53 think, could give up to pay for that and then buy the
10:14:57 benches with that instead of laying off these young men.
10:14:59 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
10:15:03 Anyone else?
10:15:08 >> Good morning.
10:15:10 My name is Walter Lee Smith II, an environmental engineer
10:15:15 and the son of attorney Geraldine Shaw.
10:15:19 I'm coming here in support of the yes team.
10:15:22 And the reasoning for that is that there are several things
10:15:26 that these people could be doing that are wrong.
10:15:31 When they are being placed in a position right now where
10:15:35 they can be doing something that's very constructive.
10:15:37 What they are doing is maintaining the rights-of-way and
10:15:38 maintaining a sense of civility in the community from the
10:15:43 standpoint of being a deterrent to crime be and other things
10:15:48 that are going on in the community.
10:15:49 An example of that is the article that just came out
10:15:54 And I couldn't tell you exactly what the publication is
10:15:59 exactly, but it did come out over the Internet recently.
10:16:05 It specifically deals with the situation that took place
10:16:07 recently this summer where the yes team actually observed --
10:16:14 found a fight that was going on in the community.
10:16:18 Had it not been for their quick action to this, we would
10:16:21 have had a problem in the community.
10:16:24 Houses would have been burned down, property could have
10:16:28 But if it not been for these young men, then the person who
10:16:33 is responsible, the arsonist responsible for this would not
10:16:35 have been captured.
10:16:37 And they also stopped drug sales in the community as well.
10:16:41 Where drug sales normally take place in the community on
10:16:46 this corner, they are no longer there.
10:16:49 So I think that the ability for these people to continue
10:16:52 what they are doing is very important in terms of what their
10:16:56 charge is and beautification and maintenance, and being
10:17:04 deterrents in the community to community services, to crime
10:17:08 and so forth is very, very important.
10:17:11 I want to leave with you that thought.
10:17:12 Thank you.
10:17:13 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
10:17:16 Anybody else?
10:17:23 >> I'm Donna -- my temporary address is 2929.
10:17:30 >>FRANK REDDICK: That's coming up next.
10:17:40 Not next, but in a few minutes.
10:17:45 Anybody else to speak at this time?
10:17:46 Thank you.
10:17:46 >> Mr. Chairman, other members of the Community
10:17:52 Redevelopment Agency board, I'm Al Davis.
10:18:00 And I'm a resident of the East Tampa community redevelopment
10:18:10 I got my tax bill the other day, you know, the pole tax
10:18:20 And we know the funding for the redevelopment of East Tampa,
10:18:28 a lot of that comes from property tax.
10:18:31 So I'm okay with that right now.
10:18:33 But one of the things I do want to say, Mr. Chairman, is I
10:18:37 want to commend chairman best for her leadership.
10:18:48 As the chairperson of the community advisory committee.
10:18:56 A new day has arisen in East Tampa.
10:19:00 The foundation was laid about eight years ago when this
10:19:11 council developed the redevelopment plan for East Tampa.
10:19:19 It's a fascinating document in terms of trying to implement.
10:19:26 And then, of course, we have the strategic action plan.
10:19:32 And, Mr. Chairman, my heart is filled with joy because I see
10:19:37 good things come, particularly for East Tampa, but it's
10:19:43 going to take some work.
10:19:46 I want to commend Ed Johnson who has been the manager of the
10:19:50 East Tampa redevelopment area since its inception.
10:19:58 I don't know whether or not he's going to stay longer or
10:20:02 not, but his leadership has been fantastic in terms of
10:20:09 trying to implement the concept of the redevelopment of East
10:20:13 Since this new day is coming, Mr. Chairman --
10:20:27 (Bell sounds)
10:20:28 -- coming to the citizens advisory committee meeting with a
10:20:33 little more enthusiasm, and also commend the city
10:20:41 comprehensive plans to outline the concept of neighborhoods.
10:20:50 Your leadership, their leadership, in the neighborhood --
10:20:58 (Bell sounds)
10:20:59 -- neighborhood redevelopment, and Ms. Shannon of the
10:21:08 department I commend her.
10:21:09 You are going to be proud of East Tampa.
10:21:11 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
10:21:12 >> We are all going to enjoy it.
10:21:14 Thank you.
10:21:15 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right, thank you.
10:21:16 >> My name is Michael farmer.
10:21:22 Member of the ETCRP.
10:21:25 I just wanted to say, there was an article in the Florida
10:21:29 sentinel about the roundabout.
10:21:34 And the house that I think is about $20,000-something, and
10:21:45 only wanted three times as much.
10:21:47 And I just wanted to say that, you know, the budget of the
10:21:57 TIF for East Tampa, and everything that's going on there, I
10:22:04 don't think you should pay three times as much for a house,
10:22:08 and now I hear if the house is not bought, they can't do the
10:22:14 roundabout or whatever.
10:22:16 So I just want to say take a closer look at it, you know,
10:22:21 and make sure that our moneys are spent, you know, in the
10:22:24 correct way.
10:22:27 Information was requested from the owner, and he could not
10:22:31 provide information to the satisfaction that was needed.
10:22:36 So don't let the people out there who know that improvements
10:22:44 are coming through.
10:22:46 They jack up the prices of their property for whatever, you
10:22:51 know, just to make a profit.
10:22:53 So take a closer look at it.
10:22:55 Also, I would like to say for Ed Johnson, I have given my
10:23:03 e-mail address to him at least three or four times, yet I
10:23:06 don't get any information.
10:23:08 So I will give it to you again.
10:23:09 But I want to mention it so we can keep in contact.
10:23:14 And I would like the same with the minutes and stuff.
10:23:16 Us being the community that the CAC represents, I think
10:23:24 every member should be getting an e-mail of what goes on in
10:23:27 the CAC meetings.
10:23:29 That way we will be abreast and we can comment accordingly.
10:23:34 Thank you.
10:23:35 >>FRANK REDDICK: Councilwoman Capin?
10:23:40 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I want to commend him and I want to also
10:23:42 commend -- talk about that exact issue of the purchase of
10:23:49 And I did read some notes on it and did see where the
10:23:59 community group, Ms. Best's group, they did question this
10:24:05 purchase, and very vigilant.
10:24:08 And thank you for bringing it forward to begin with, from
10:24:13 the CAC.
10:24:15 And I want to be say again thank you for being vigilant and
10:24:19 reminding to us pay attention to our dollars and cents.
10:24:22 Thank you.
10:24:23 >>MARY MULHERN: Mr. McDonaugh, I was just going to speak to
10:24:34 the last speaker and just wait.
10:24:35 I am going to be brief.
10:24:36 I just want to second what Councilwoman board member Capin
10:24:41 said and thank the citizens advisory committee for letting
10:24:46 us know about that.
10:24:47 And I also want to tell you that this board, because of your
10:24:52 attention and our attention to that item, did not approve
10:24:56 that purchase.
10:24:59 And we are the board of directors of the community
10:25:02 Redevelopment Agency's council, council sits here as the
10:25:07 board, and no appropriation.
10:25:12 That is our job to watch those appropriations and see how
10:25:15 those TIF dollars are spent.
10:25:17 So keep us informed.
10:25:23 And we will be able to do our job in watching that.
10:25:25 And if you don't know this already, I believe that there is
10:25:29 an East Tampa citizens advisory committee meeting scheduled
10:25:34 that Ms. Best mentioned.
10:25:36 The date, I believe, is September 20th at 6:30 at Ragan
10:25:40 Park, and that is the topic is that the roundabout, 22nd
10:25:48 street redevelopment so anyone interested should go to that
10:25:52 But we did not approve that purchase of that house.
10:25:54 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
10:26:01 Mr. Johnson, if I may.
10:26:03 I missed something.
10:26:05 The purchase of that property never came forward to us.
10:26:08 It was pulled from the agenda, correct?
10:26:11 >> That is correct.
10:26:14 >>LISA MONTELIONE: It had been showing up on our agenda.
10:26:17 It showed up on our agenda three times.
10:26:19 The first time, I think I pulled it.
10:26:21 The second time you pulled it.
10:26:23 And the third time, it was to be on the agenda but never
10:26:28 came forward.
10:26:29 And the reason for that is because -- I have been watching
10:26:33 this property.
10:26:37 I have spoken with Mr. Johnson on three or four occasions,
10:26:42 and the community also objecting to the purchase of that
10:26:47 The last time I met with Mr. Johnson, transportation staff
10:26:50 was with him along with the plans for the roundabout for the
10:26:54 improvements to the 22nd street corridor.
10:26:56 And I had asked that staff go back and talk with the
10:27:03 engineers who were working on that project to see if there
10:27:07 were alternative designs that could be considered and then
10:27:11 brought forward without the purchase of that property.
10:27:15 Mr. Johnson, was that done?
10:27:19 Has transportation consulted with the engineers that were
10:27:22 paying to do those projects?
10:27:24 >> Ed Johnson: That's correct.
10:27:25 That was done, and the engineers, because this is a State
10:27:28 Road, the Department of Transportation road, 22nd street is,
10:27:32 they have final approval or disapproval of those plans.
10:27:36 They took those plans back to FDOT, and FDOT says, no, they
10:27:42 would not approve any type of alterations other than the
10:27:47 type of roundabout that was in the plans itself.
10:27:51 So we are scheduling a public meeting on September 20th
10:27:57 at 5:30 p.m.
10:28:01 It's been noticed as 5:30 to discuss the roundabout, and to
10:28:05 be allow the community to hear some other information on the
10:28:10 safety and the use of roundabouts, and then after that
10:28:14 discussion is completed, then we will ask the community to
10:28:17 make a decision as to if it wants to go forward with a
10:28:20 roundabout or not.
10:28:21 A decision is made not to go forward with the roundabout,
10:28:24 then it's a moot point, the project.
10:28:27 That particular phase of the project will not be completed.
10:28:29 >>LISA MONTELIONE: As I understood from our meeting the
10:28:35 requirements of FDOT and the distance separation was
10:28:39 And in what we were looking at, the alternatives, the
10:28:46 alternatives that I had suggested -- because within the
10:28:50 D.O.T. standard for roadways.
10:28:51 So if D.O.T. has been known to want things that may not be
10:29:01 exactly as stated in policy and procedure, or in standards,
10:29:07 but once a project is designed and they have approved it,
10:29:11 they want to move forward with it the way it was.
10:29:13 They don't want to go back and have been to reconsider.
10:29:15 So have they provided in writing the citations of why they
10:29:19 will not accept changes to that?
10:29:24 >> I don't know the answer to that.
10:29:25 I would have to --
10:29:27 >> You can check on that and get back to me?
10:29:30 And I would like to speak with FDOT staff that has rendered
10:29:36 that opinion.
10:29:37 Because there are alternatives.
10:29:39 And it may take a little while.
10:29:41 We have negotiated with FDOT before, Tampa Heights community
10:29:45 garden is a great example of the community working with us
10:29:48 to achieve their goals.
10:29:49 And I think that as the community, FDOT, CRA, has a meeting.
10:29:55 Mind, maybe we can propose some alternatives that would be
10:29:58 workable to everyone.
10:29:59 >> Be glad to have a look at it.
10:30:01 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right, anyone else wishes Tosh speak?
10:30:07 If so, why don't you stand up and come to the side.
10:30:12 The CRA meeting is lasting as long as our neighborhood
10:30:17 You can speak now.
10:30:23 Come up.
10:30:24 >> Thank you.
10:30:27 First I am kind of conflicted here.
10:30:29 My main reason for coming is because I served on the
10:30:31 community advisory committee for East Tampa, and this is
10:30:35 going to be my last term.
10:30:37 So I just want to kind of like do this last swan dance.
10:30:41 >> Your name for the record.
10:30:43 >> William A. Dennis, East Tampa property owner.
10:30:47 And now the conflict.
10:30:48 I have been in the minority in regards to this particular
10:30:50 piece of property we are talking about this morning.
10:30:56 I don't think they're paying this guy enough money for that
10:31:00 It's a business district.
10:31:01 Business property is worth a lot more than residential
10:31:06 I think that the damage to his property has been created by
10:31:10 the state when they decided to make one way out of 21st
10:31:15 street right there at the expense of his property.
10:31:19 Which was done years ago.
10:31:21 So, you know, people don't have a recollection.
10:31:24 You didn't always like drive into his bedroom in his
10:31:28 property, you know, until it was changed the way it has been
10:31:32 The other things that has conflicted me is why TIF money is
10:31:38 being spent for a state highway.
10:31:40 But, you know, people smarter than me think that's okay.
10:31:44 I personally think that the state, you know, through
10:31:48 collecting of gasoline tax, for road improvements, should be
10:31:53 paying for that, and that the TIF fund that's being used to
10:31:56 improve 22nd street should have went into the community.
10:32:00 But that's just my opinion.
10:32:01 I appreciate the opportunity to develop some leadership
10:32:05 skill for the community.
10:32:08 Hopefully I will get a chance to use it in the future.
10:32:10 Thank you.
10:32:10 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
10:32:14 >> Geraldine Shaw.
10:32:18 >>FRANK REDDICK: You can only speak one time.
10:32:21 >> But before was for East Tampa.
10:32:24 But I do want to ask the council to please bring some
10:32:27 closure to the east Ybor.
10:32:29 >>MARY MULHERN: I'm sorry, you can only speak once during
10:32:33 public comment during this meeting.
10:32:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: Anyone else that wishes to speak at this
10:32:43 Let me ask a final question, if I may.
10:32:49 For the two positions, two and a half positions that you
10:32:52 spoke of, is there any way that the budget can be
10:33:00 reevaluated as well as reallocated to find funds for those
10:33:05 two positions?
10:33:10 >>VINCE PARDO: Yes, sir.
10:33:10 The budget that comes before you is a recommendation from my
10:33:15 board, YCDC, East Tampa, all of our CRAs in doing that.
10:33:20 If you approve that recommendation, stated to my board, and
10:33:24 stated again today, that the movement of $25,000 from the
10:33:29 yes team budget into a holding pattern was not a staff
10:33:34 It was a recommendation of the board, the budget committee.
10:33:39 If that 25,000 were restored to that budget, there still
10:33:42 would be a reduction.
10:33:44 Again we still have a reduction of that.
10:33:46 But that budget would come down to instead of a 40%
10:33:48 reduction in the Ybor 2, east side, and south side budget,
10:33:57 it would only be about 18%.
10:33:59 And that is -- as far as talking about a staff reduction or
10:34:06 reduction in services and maybe some of the costs.
10:34:08 But there's no way we can get by with the budget we have
10:34:11 before you now without at least a two to two and a quarter
10:34:16 There could be a possible one reduction, and that could be
10:34:19 negotiable with the contractor as we go forward.
10:34:22 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
10:34:25 Board member Capin?
10:34:31 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Not necessarily to Mr. Pardo but maybe you
10:34:33 can answer this.
10:34:36 Of course, when I hear job reduction for in this
10:34:43 environment, I find it very hard to justify laying off
10:34:53 people in this environment.
10:34:57 I understand the streetscape would be beneficial to that,
10:35:03 the East Tampa Ybor.
10:35:07 I feel that maybe it needs to wait a little bit more.
10:35:12 But jobs are way more important, in my sometimes at this
10:35:17 time to find another job is almost impossible.
10:35:22 So that's just the way I feel about the laying off of, you
10:35:29 know, the two full time, one part time employee.
10:35:34 Which is doing a very valuable service to that area, and
10:35:40 also keeps people -- right around the neighborhood, they are
10:35:49 cleaning, there's activity in the neighborhood which I'm
10:35:51 sure helps very much in there.
10:35:55 So that is just the way I think right now laying off people
10:35:59 is just not something I have a taste for.
10:36:06 >>VINCE PARDO: And would you be aware the streetscape
10:36:08 project is in fact a project in and of itself.
10:36:13 We have been earmarking since '09 and fiscal year '10.
10:36:17 I currently have -- I currently have earmarked for the
10:36:21 extension of the project $290,000, okay, and change.
10:36:26 So this is a project that was a recommendation.
10:36:29 We eventually long-term will end up with 26th street.
10:36:32 There was a block at a time.
10:36:34 It was a little less than $20,000 per block.
10:36:40 I don't want you to be think that this contract kills this
10:36:43 Do I have enough money to be do at least a good portion of
10:36:46 it, maybe put the light posts in later, the benches later,
10:36:52 and do structure?
10:36:54 So the yes team has not killed this project.
10:36:56 They just had an additional 25,000.
10:37:03 >>YVONNE CAPIN: And I remember speaking to you about it.
10:37:05 That just confirms how I feel about this situation and
10:37:10 laying off employed people.
10:37:15 Thank you.
10:37:19 >>MARY MULHERN: Mr. Pardo, I have a couple of questions.
10:37:23 I had to step out for a minute when you began your
10:37:26 I think Councilwoman Capin's question may have answered part
10:37:30 of my question.
10:37:33 The concern that people have about the layoff of those two
10:37:38 yes team people, is that part of this program change today
10:37:41 that you are asking us to make, item number 8?
10:37:46 >>VINCE PARDO: No.
10:37:46 The program change is specifically moving money around to
10:37:48 help move the streetscape project along.
10:37:52 I had some money in operating into capital to keep that
10:37:57 budget afloat in doing that.
10:37:59 >> First of all, I have to say, I wasn't briefed on any of
10:38:09 And I think we need to be briefed on these things.
10:38:11 And I know this has been a really crazy week with all the
10:38:15 special -- I had five different council meetings in less
10:38:21 than 24 hours this week.
10:38:22 So I know it just might not have happened.
10:38:25 But we need to have a briefing before we can pass these
10:38:31 program changes.
10:38:32 So now after hearing from the public, I'm concerned when we
10:38:37 get to that item, can you explain to me where this concern
10:38:40 about those layoffs is?
10:38:42 Is that in the proposed budget for the CRA?
10:38:46 >> The recommended budget that you have before you for Ybor
10:38:49 2, TIF, what you have seen in prior things, contains a
10:38:55 recommendation to reduce further the staff recommendation
10:39:04 the budget for next year, for the Ybor 2 yes team.
10:39:07 >>MARY MULHERN: And when is the budget going to be
10:39:10 presented to us?
10:39:12 >>VINCE PARDO: That will be part of the regular budget
10:39:15 What you have on your agenda today, because we pulled it,
10:39:19 remember, from conversation before I left town you and I
10:39:21 talked, pulled it off the agenda, is the renewal of the
10:39:24 Central Parking yes team budget, and that renewal that you
10:39:29 have today for discussion, which will come to City Council
10:39:31 at the next meeting, is the reduced amount for the yes team
10:39:35 for Ybor 2.
10:39:36 >> So is that where those positions are going to be lost?
10:39:42 >> That contract will lock in their amount for next year,
10:39:46 anticipating approval of the budget.
10:39:48 If you change the budget -- in order to keep that, have the
10:39:53 contract effective October 1 so we can pay these people for
10:39:56 their services, you have before you today for discussion
10:39:59 what will come to City Council at next meeting a contract
10:40:02 renewal for the Central Parking yes team services which does
10:40:06 contain the reduced amount for the Ybor 2, $69,000 instead
10:40:11 of the 90 that you-some dollars.
10:40:15 >> But you are not asking us to vote on this contract?
10:40:17 >> It was up for discussion because of the question of
10:40:21 bringing it back to CRA prior to going to City Council.
10:40:23 >>MARY MULHERN: I think this is a very good indication of
10:40:26 what the problem is with our oversight of these TIF dollars
10:40:31 and this budget, because the Community Redevelopment
10:40:34 agencies, that funding needs to not only go back into
10:40:42 community redevelopment, but the community needs to have
10:40:44 that input into that -- especially now with reduced revenues
10:40:51 into the limited money that we have.
10:40:53 So if the community feels the money should be spent on yes
10:41:08 teams, then we need to know that and we need to make that
10:41:13 I need a briefing on all of this before the second budget
10:41:17 hearing, because I didn't know about this till today
10:41:23 And I would also just like to point out that in the budget,
10:41:30 in the general revenue budget, in the mayor's budget, there
10:41:33 are no layoffs.
10:41:36 No layoffs.
10:41:38 This year.
10:41:40 And since we oversee the CRA budget, I think we need -- you
10:41:48 know, we probably agree with that, at least two of us so far
10:41:53 who have spoken just now agree that we can't be laying
10:41:55 people off, and that economic development starts with having
10:41:59 a safe neighborhood.
10:42:01 So I need to have a briefing on this.
10:42:05 I think all of our CRA board members need a briefing on
10:42:09 And I'm not going to support any resolutions today if they
10:42:16 are going to include any kind of cuts to employment.
10:42:28 >> This is a briefing, but just for you know, the
10:42:34 recommendation for the reduction did come from the
10:42:37 community, not from the staff.
10:42:38 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay, so is this the Ybor 2 that the jobs
10:42:43 are being lost?
10:42:45 >>VINCE PARDO: The Ybor 2 yes team contract.
10:42:47 >>MARY MULHERN: And that advisory committee --
10:42:56 >>VINCE PARDO: YCDC board accepted -- supported the
10:43:00 recommendation from the east side neighborhood association
10:43:02 to eliminate the yes team services in that neighborhood.
10:43:05 Only the neighborhood between 22nd to 26th, not the rest
10:43:10 of Ybor City all the way to Nebraska Avenue.
10:43:12 Only in that neighborhood.
10:43:13 >> So on the east Ybor?
10:43:17 >> The east Ybor neighborhood association, 22nd to 26th,
10:43:22 Adamo to the interstate that recollection tangle, this
10:43:26 budget calls for a total elimination of yes team services.
10:43:30 >> But was it -- it was the people from that neighborhood?
10:43:35 Or was it your budget committee for the YCDC?
10:43:40 >>VINCE PARDO: It was the neighborhood president for that
10:43:42 >>MARY MULHERN: Who is that?
10:43:43 >> Would rather have additional money towards the
10:43:45 streetscape project than the neighborhood.
10:43:48 >> But did they vote on it?
10:43:50 >>VINCE PARDO: Y.to the budget committee, to a member of the
10:43:54 >>MARY MULHERN: No, I mean, did that group -- is there a
10:43:57 separate advisory group for that?
10:43:59 >>VINCE PARDO: The YCDC Development Corporation board is in
10:44:02 fact the appointments coming up today for next year, your
10:44:08 appointments to the advisory.
10:44:10 >>CHAIRMAN: So what you are saying is that one appointee on
10:44:12 there who is the neighborhood president?
10:44:17 >> Correct.
10:44:18 >>MARY MULHERN: Burr we are hearing from the neighborhood
10:44:23 Thank you.
10:44:24 >>FRANK REDDICK: And before I go to board member Cohen, are
10:44:28 you saying to us, one person who is president can be speak
10:44:32 for the entire neighborhood?
10:44:36 >>VINCE PARDO: Well, we have, as you are aware, ex-officio
10:44:39 seats, not only on my advisory committee but others.
10:44:43 The CEO for Ybor chamber sits on my board and speaks for the
10:44:48 The head of the museum society in Ybor sits there.
10:44:51 That neighborhood president, okay -- and I have talked to
10:44:54 her since -- her board, not the entire neighborhood
10:44:58 residents, but her board approved that particular action.
10:45:05 And the rest of the board for that particular neighborhood
10:45:08 association, it's their desire not to have yes team services
10:45:10 in their neighborhood.
10:45:16 >>HARRY COHEN: I want to add my voice in support of what my
10:45:19 fellow board members have been saying N.this environment, in
10:45:21 this economy, when people get laid off, they are going to
10:45:24 have a very, very difficult time, if not impossible time,
10:45:28 finding a new source of income, and we have to scrutinize
10:45:31 those decisions very, very closely, particularly considering
10:45:35 the fact, as Councilwoman Mulhern pointed out, that the
10:45:39 mayor's budget does not call for any layoffs in the next
10:45:43 fiscal year.
10:45:44 And I think that philosophically we have all been supportive
10:45:48 of that approach.
10:45:50 It would be at the very least inconsistent with us to do
10:45:54 differently in the CRA.
10:45:55 >>FRANK REDDICK: Board member Capin.
10:46:00 >>YVONNE CAPIN: So to clarify it for myself here, the budget
10:46:07 for the streetscape had been budgeted over several years,
10:46:14 and that would not be affected.
10:46:17 >> What we don't know is in today's economy whether the
10:46:20 amount that I have mentioned is enough to complete the
10:46:26 project, complete the block.
10:46:28 The infrastructure cuts, benches, palm trees, the whole
10:46:34 My recommendation to the board was, let's go forward with
10:46:37 what we have, let's see how the bids come in, let's do as
10:46:40 much as we can, and if we have to maybe wait a year for
10:46:43 benches, we have to wait a year for palm trees, we'll see
10:46:46 how much we can get the infrastructure, the electrical, the
10:46:49 pavers in, and see how much this will buy in today's
10:46:53 economy, and again the recommendation came to move the
10:46:56 25,000 to help buffer that.
10:46:59 I can't speak to that.
10:47:00 The estimate we got from contract management is probably
10:47:04 more than --
10:47:05 >> 25,000 is going to make a difference in this 295,000,
10:47:15 >>VINCE PARDO: You are asking me, because that wasn't the
10:47:20 My preference, the staff recommendation to the board was
10:47:23 let's go out for bid, let's see how much the bids come in,
10:47:27 and if we have to phase it in, we phase it in.
10:47:34 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I think that's very reasonable and that
10:47:35 there's $290,000 to start is reasonable.
10:47:40 What I find unreasonable is laying off two and a half -- two
10:47:45 full time and one part time jobs.
10:47:48 So thank you.
10:47:49 I'm done.
10:47:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
10:47:51 And Mr. Pardo, I concur with my board members.
10:47:56 We have 11.2% unemployment rate in the City of Tampa.
10:48:00 And that two and a half will add somebody percent.
10:48:07 And I would hate to see that.
10:48:10 So I would not support this particular recommended budget.
10:48:14 And I would hope that we go back to that one person who will
10:48:22 speak for the entire neighborhood and tell that one person
10:48:27 that we don't want to add to the unemployment rate in the
10:48:30 City of Tampa.
10:48:31 And so I don't know the pleasure of the board.
10:48:40 Mr. Suarez?
10:48:41 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, Mr. Pardo, for the information
10:48:44 you gave us and I agree with our board members.
10:48:46 The issue at hand, though, is the renewal of this particular
10:48:49 agreement, and we now -- I would like to make a motion --
10:48:53 and I want to make sure that this is what we are talking
10:48:55 about, to go back and send this out to bid in order to try
10:49:01 and get a better pricing so that we can save those jobs.
10:49:09 >>VINCE PARDO: Going after the bid is for the streetscape
10:49:11 project, not yes team.
10:49:13 About there was a low bidder.
10:49:16 And I'm sorry it's complicated.
10:49:21 We have several things on the agenda.
10:49:22 The last item is a program change.
10:49:23 Only moving money around to make budget items.
10:49:26 I do have for the streetscape project workable, as workable
10:49:30 as we can.
10:49:31 You also have the discussion about the yes team RESO coming
10:49:39 back to your next meeting which is taking the budget before
10:49:41 you, which is the reduced Ybor 2, and telling Central
10:49:44 Parking we are going to recontract with you, and you will
10:49:47 very a contract October 1 to go forward, even though it's a
10:49:50 reduced budget.
10:49:52 So if I may, the object today is if I am hearing comments,
10:49:58 if you want me to change the Ybor 2 budget, we'll need some
10:50:02 direction of staff to do that.
10:50:03 That will affect the budget that comes before you for final
10:50:05 adoption, it will affect the contract that is up for
10:50:10 discussion today for approval by the next council as well as
10:50:13 coming in with a $69,000 figure, or I do come out with a
10:50:17 nice figure of $25,000 more?
10:50:23 >>MIKE SUAREZ: The question I have, because you presented
10:50:25 it in a certain way, but we have control over the yes team
10:50:30 budget, okay, and the contracts that are approved in order
10:50:33 to make that budget work.
10:50:34 We should have control over how that budget is also spent,
10:50:40 >>VINCE PARDO: Correct.
10:50:40 >>MIKE SUAREZ: What I am going to move is that we explore
10:50:43 reinstating those jobs within this particular budget.
10:50:47 And I think that's probably the best way of saying it.
10:50:49 Correct, Mr. Territo?
10:50:52 >>SAL TERRITO: Make a motion to redo the budget and come
10:50:54 back with a budget that you are asking for.
10:50:59 (off microphone).
10:51:00 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Then I would move that we do that with
10:51:02 direction to you, Mr. Territo, to make sure there's no
10:51:05 contractual issues concerning that, and --
10:51:09 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Second.
10:51:10 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
10:51:13 Do you have any discussion on this?
10:51:15 >>MARY MULHERN: (off microphone) I think what that means --
10:51:22 I was going to wait until after we had it.
10:51:25 But I think what this means is that item number 5, which is
10:51:29 a required approval, we should not -- should not even be
10:51:37 Because that contract is the reduced amount, correct?
10:51:43 >> That's correct.
10:51:46 For Ybor 2.
10:51:47 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If I understand correctly the contract will
10:51:50 continue at its current rate until we come up with that
10:51:53 budget as well.
10:51:56 >>CHAIRMAN: Right.
10:51:56 >>FRANK REDDICK: Motion by Suarez, seconded by Montelione.
10:52:03 All in favor?
10:52:05 Motion carried.
10:52:07 Thank you.
10:52:08 >>BOB McDONAUGH: One issue for clarification.
10:52:13 This contract was scheduled to go to be City Council on the
10:52:17 If it's the board's pleasure, modifications can be made to
10:52:21 this contract reflecting the restoration of the $5,000 to
10:52:26 the yes team, putting it in this contract and taking it to
10:52:30 be you on the 22nd so that way the contract could go
10:52:33 forward, they could restore the job, in the meanwhile, Vince
10:52:37 works with his board to modify the budget to reflect your
10:52:44 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I would like to amend my previous motion to
10:52:47 include it being brought back on the 22nd.
10:52:57 Any time certain, Mr. Crews?
10:53:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: Motion by board member Suarez, seconded by
10:53:06 All in favor? Opposed?
10:53:08 All right.
10:53:09 Thank you.
10:53:12 Where are we at right now?
10:53:14 >>BOB McDONAUGH: I really don't know.
10:53:16 I believe on item number 6, which is a request for contract
10:53:21 amendment with Wilson Miller to provide engineering services
10:53:26 for the restoration or rebuilding of 12th Street to coincide
10:53:31 with the related groups project, and to do some improvements
10:53:36 to do a safe landing median on Kennedy Boulevard.
10:53:43 >>FRANK REDDICK: Do we have any questions from the board?
10:53:49 Do we have a motion?
10:53:50 >>MARY MULHERN: I'll move to approve item 6.
10:53:56 >>MARY MULHERN: Moved by board member Mulhern, seconded by
10:54:01 board member Montelione.
10:54:03 All in favor?
10:54:04 Thank you.
10:54:04 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Item number 8.
10:54:07 You have a slate of folks.
10:54:12 Excuse me, number 7 was the slate of candidates for the YCDC
10:54:16 board, and I believe the people are here.
10:54:23 Or they were here.
10:54:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: Would you like to stand and introduce the
10:54:34 persons that are here?
10:54:41 >>VINCE PARDO: You have a new slate.
10:54:42 Off report before you highlighting the categories.
10:54:44 And in our afternoon process, there is a big turnover in our
10:54:51 >>FRANK REDDICK: Would you like to speak, say anything?
10:55:12 >>MARY MULHERN: I just wanted to ask one quick question,
10:55:16 So you are asking us to approve the slate.
10:55:18 >> Correct.
10:55:19 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.
10:55:23 I will do that.
10:55:24 But I would like to suggest that this board have a
10:55:36 discussion maybe on Mr. Pardo could bring back some possible
10:55:43 I know we just added two new members to your board.
10:55:47 But I have some concern -- and maybe you can answer these
10:55:50 concerns and I don't have to make a motion.
10:55:53 But that the East Tampa, Ybor 2, sound like maybe they are
10:56:01 not -- might need some more representation on your board or
10:56:07 need more involvement, and maybe we could talk about if
10:56:14 there's any way that you could, with your committees or with
10:56:19 the composition of the board, add another member or
10:56:23 I feel like just from today's meeting alone we felt like
10:56:26 there was some community concern about not having their
10:56:31 input into this, the decision.
10:56:40 >>VINCE PARDO: There are individuals that are on this board
10:56:41 that are also residents of that particular area.
10:56:44 And I can give that information.
10:56:46 They are well represented.
10:56:47 >>MARY MULHERN: Maybe you could have at your next meeting
10:56:51 with the Ybor 2 -- do you have separate meetings with them?
10:56:57 No we have a unified board.
10:56:59 Economic development.
10:57:00 >>MARY MULHERN: Then at your next board meeting have a
10:57:02 discussion where you invite the members of Ybor 2 to let you
10:57:08 know their feelings about it.
10:57:15 >>VINCE PARDO: Okay.
10:57:15 >>MARY MULHERN: Thanks.
10:57:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: Board member Suarez.
10:57:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I would like to make a motion to accept the
10:57:22 slate of nominations for the CAC in Ybor.
10:57:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: Discussion on the motion?
10:57:28 It's been moved by board member Suarez, seconded by board
10:57:32 member Montelione.
10:57:33 All in favor say Aye.
10:57:35 Any opposed?
10:57:36 All right.
10:57:36 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Program 8 is the program change for Ybor.
10:57:41 And I believe Mr. Pardo mentioned the fact that this will
10:57:44 not impact the decisions of this board earlier.
10:57:47 It's again moving money around from future improvements.
10:57:55 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I move we approve the program changes.
10:57:58 >> Second.
10:58:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: Is somebody knocking?
10:58:07 >> I believe it's on the windows.
10:58:08 >>MARY MULHERN: Bob, can you give us a brief description of
10:58:15 what the money is being moved from and what it going to?
10:58:19 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Vince, could you do that?
10:58:24 >>MARY MULHERN: Mr. Pardo, you are moving money from
10:58:38 professional -- other professional services to sidewalk
10:58:41 programs, other professional services sound like jobs, but
10:58:45 that's not jobs?
10:58:50 >> When we looked at advancing this particular project, and
10:58:54 looked at what I had in fiscal '09 money, I committed to the
10:59:05 board I would try to find as much money to advance the East
10:59:07 7th Avenue streetscape project.
10:59:10 So I found money in my operating budget, contractual, that
10:59:13 we in fact are moving into other areas, the proper places so
10:59:17 we can have contract admin go out for bid and see if we do
10:59:21 have enough money to go forward with this project.
10:59:23 >>MARY MULHERN: So the $31,000 you are moving from 2009
10:59:32 other professional services would not -- was not actual part
10:59:39 of any actual employment contract that we have now?
10:59:43 >>VINCE PARDO: No.
10:59:43 Was not needed for that.
10:59:44 This is -- sidewalk money is money I had in operating to
10:59:52 Sidewalks is part of this project.
10:59:53 But it has to be moved into capital projects.
10:59:58 Instead of the operating portion of the budget.
11:00:00 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.
11:00:09 So this will not affect any current employment contractual
11:00:18 or otherwise, the Ybor CRA?
11:00:23 >> No.
11:00:24 Hopefully put some contractors on the street to work to get
11:00:27 this project done.
11:00:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: I have a motion by board member Capin,
11:00:33 seconded by board member Suarez.
11:00:36 All in favor of the motion say Aye.
11:00:43 New business?
11:00:44 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Mr. Chair, I asked Mr. Johnson earlier
11:00:51 about a response from FDOT and I would like to make that in
11:00:57 the form of a motion.
11:00:58 I was advised by Mr. Territo to put that in the form of a
11:01:02 motion so that we can, as a board, requesting the
11:01:07 information from FDOT as to why the -- I would like to be
11:01:14 I would make a motion to have written comments from FDOT
11:01:18 delivered regarding the roundabout on 22nd street, the
11:01:24 technical specifications, and the reasons for their
11:01:28 objections to the change, and any plans, whether it be
11:01:32 technical specifications of the roundabout or for any other
11:01:35 reason for the changes, plans or specifications for the
11:01:38 project on 22nd street.
11:01:39 >> Second.
11:01:42 >>MARY MULHERN: All those in favor say Aye.
11:01:48 All right.
11:01:48 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, sir.
11:01:52 >>MARY MULHERN: Board member Cohen?
11:01:54 >>HARRY COHEN: Nothing.
11:01:58 >>MARY MULHERN: Yes.
11:02:00 Councilwoman Montelione, I got this idea from your motion
11:02:04 you just made.
11:02:05 Perhaps you could bring up at the MPO meeting, maybe the
11:02:12 livable roadways, the next meeting you are on the MPO,
11:02:17 This question on 22nd street and whether there could be
11:02:20 transportation funding for some of those improvements coming
11:02:23 from the federal funds.
11:02:34 >>BOB McDONAUGH: The East Tampa is not funding that
11:02:38 FDOT is pouring millions into the project.
11:02:41 There is other money besides the TIF.
11:02:44 What we are doing are enhancements.
11:02:46 That's the widening of the sidewalks, buying some of the
11:02:49 excess right-of-way because it's going to be parking that's
11:02:51 displaced, going to be parking for some of the retail that's
11:02:55 >> Some months ago, I don't remember the exact date, but
11:03:00 livable roadways did receive a presentation on this project,
11:03:03 and we did discuss the project.
11:03:07 As far as the livable roadways was concerned, I believe at
11:03:10 the time MPO had not approved the bylaws so it wasn't -- it
11:03:15 wasn't an official recommendation brought forward from the
11:03:20 MPO but rather a discussion of the project.
11:03:23 We did make some comments, and FDOT staff was there at the
11:03:29 But that was prior to staff bringing forward to be us as a
11:03:35 board the purchase of that property.
11:03:37 So the specifics of the purchase of that property weren't
11:03:41 discussed as far as what was presenting to livable roadways.
11:03:45 It was an overall review of the project.
11:03:54 Some of the draft plans weren't given to us nab format, even
11:04:00 looking at the actual plans that was Mr. Johnson and
11:04:03 transportation staff.
11:04:03 What we saw was a slide show presentation on -- what would
11:04:10 you call it?
11:04:11 My mind just went blank.
11:04:13 The elevation of the possible design element.
11:04:17 >>BOB McDONAUGH: As a clarification, FDOT money is
11:04:23 providing most of the money for this project.
11:04:25 The East Tampa money is doing enhancements that normally
11:04:28 would not be paid for with FDOT.
11:04:31 If you recall, there were updated lights, fencing, wider
11:04:37 sidewalk, landscaping, lots of things that would be above
11:04:39 and beyond what the FDOT standard would be.
11:04:42 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you, but didn't we just make a motion
11:04:47 to go -- what was the motion?
11:04:49 To go to FDOT and ask them if they had funding for this?
11:04:54 >>LISA MONTELIONE: No.
11:04:55 The motion was for us to receive an explanation of why FDOT
11:05:01 will not accept any changes to what is proposed, what the
11:05:06 plans are, because when I looked at the plans, from what the
11:05:12 discussion I had with transportation staff, the changes that
11:05:17 I was talking about with staff was doable within the
11:05:21 transportation technical specifications of FDOT programs.
11:05:27 So it has to do with spacing, and it has to do with
11:05:31 distance, and it has to do --
11:05:35 >>MARY MULHERN: I'm sorry, I didn't realize the motion was
11:05:37 that specific.
11:05:38 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I'm trying to help the community --
11:05:46 >>MARY MULHERN: I'm sorry, I didn't mean to muddy it.
11:05:52 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Therefore what you are proposing and what I
11:05:53 just seconded is the change will require no purchase of
11:05:58 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That's correct.
11:06:02 There would be no purchase of property in the change that I
11:06:05 And from what I saw in the plan, it was doable and I want to
11:06:08 know why FDOT won't accept it.
11:06:11 >>YVONNE CAPIN: And then I -- thank you.
11:06:13 That was it.
11:06:13 >>FRANK REDDICK: All in favor of the motion say Aye.
11:06:19 Motion carried.
11:06:20 New business, board member cab peen?
11:06:26 >>YVONNE CAPIN: No.
11:06:27 >>MIKE SUAREZ: None for me.
11:06:28 >>FRANK REDDICK: I didn't even have to call your name.
11:06:31 All right.
11:06:32 Any other business?
11:06:34 >>BOB McDONAUGH: No, sir.
11:06:37 >>THE CLERK: Motion to receive and file, please.
11:06:39 >> Motion to receive.
11:06:40 >> Second.
11:06:41 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?
11:06:43 Five minutes?
11:06:44 We stand in recess for five minutes.
11:06:46 Thank you.
11:06:47 (CRA meeting adjourned)
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