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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL

Thursday, October 27, 2011
9:00 a.m. session


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09:06:35 >>MARY MULHERN: Good morning. Tampa City Council is called

09:06:42 to order.

09:06:43 This morning, we have the pleasure of having Leila Abdul

09:06:50 Adiz, a young woman of Russian and Palestinian background,

09:06:56 currently an honor student at the University of Florida,

09:06:59 studying peace and conflict resolution to give our

09:07:02 invocation.

09:07:03 She is the central Florida field organizer for Emerge USA, a

09:07:07 non-profit civil engagement organization, Emerge USA aims to

09:07:12 further develop in the community involvement of Florida's

09:07:15 Muslim, south Asian and Arab-American communities through

09:07:20 civic engagement workshops, community dialogue, voter

09:07:23 registration and data collection.

09:07:26 So, please welcome Leila, and we will stand for the




09:07:30 invocation and Pledge of Allegiance.

09:07:34 >> Good morning.

09:07:35 I will be reading the opening passage from the holy Quran as

09:07:40 well as another excerpt.

09:07:41 In the name of God, the beneficent, the merciful, praise be

09:07:46 to God, Lord of the world.

09:07:49 The beneficent, the merciful, owner of the day of judgment,

09:07:52 thee alone we worship, thee alone we ask for help.

09:07:55 Guide us on the straight path.

09:07:57 The path of whom thou has favored, not the path of those who

09:08:01 earn thy anger, nor those who go astray.

09:08:03 O, mankind, we created you from a pair of a female and a

09:08:08 male, and made you into nations and tribes.

09:08:11 That you may know each other.

09:08:12 Not that you may despise each other.

09:08:15 If the enemy inclined toward peace, do thou also incline

09:08:19 toward peace and trust God.

09:08:21 So the Lord is the one who hears and knows all things.

09:08:24 And the servants of God most gracious are those who walk in

09:08:27 the earth in humility and when we address them, we say

09:08:31 peace.

09:08:31 Thank you.

09:08:36 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

09:08:56 >>MARY MULHERN: Roll call, please.

09:08:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.




09:09:01 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Present.

09:09:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: Here.

09:09:03 >>MARY MULHERN: Here.

09:09:06 >>HARRY COHEN: Here.

09:09:06 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Here.

09:09:09 >>MARY MULHERN: We will move on to our ceremonial

09:09:11 activities.

09:09:12 Our first presentation is for the commendation of the police

09:09:16 Officer of the Month.

09:09:18 Chief Castor.

09:09:27 >> Good morning, Madam Chair, members of the Council.

09:09:30 It is my pleasure to present our Police Officer of the

09:09:34 Month, and I will have Chief to give some background

09:09:41 information and then, present the commendation.

09:09:46 >> Thank you, Councilmember Reddick.

09:09:48 Good morning, Council.

09:09:49 It is again my pleasure to bring forward the Officer of the

09:09:51 Month.

09:09:52 And next month, we have sergeant Rick Ubinas, who I have had

09:09:57 the pleasure of working with throughout my career.

09:09:59 He actually was one of the instrumental individuals in

09:10:02 putting together a firearms unit some years ago at the Tampa

09:10:05 Police Department and he's also an expert in the area of

09:10:10 emergency management and homeland security.

09:10:12 He works a great deal with MacDill and Centcom down there.




09:10:18 Ricky Ubinas is a supervisor on the south end of Tampa.

09:10:25 And he's in charge of a rapid center control or rock squad.

09:10:29 He's one of the supervisors that leads from the front.

09:10:31 An outstanding example for all of his officers, very bright

09:10:36 individual.

09:10:36 And always hard working.

09:10:38 I'm just going to give you three quick examples of the

09:10:40 outstanding action that he has performed in the last month

09:10:45 or so.

09:10:46 He saw an individual about 3:00 a.m. one morning riding

09:10:49 along on a bicycle.

09:10:51 The individual had some fishing poles in his hand.

09:10:53 He followed him and noticed that he was riding down some

09:10:58 alleyways, and not on the main thoroughfare.

09:11:02 He stopped the individual, questioned him about the fishing

09:11:05 rods and he had no idea what he had there.

09:11:07 He had some high end, very expensive equipment.

09:11:09 And he also noticed that he had a large amount of property

09:11:13 in his pockets.

09:11:15 Got a consensual search for, or from the individual and

09:11:19 found that he had broken into three cars in the

09:11:22 neighborhood.

09:11:23 He had cash in his pocket that was in an envelope.

09:11:26 He had a GPS and he had other material that came out of

09:11:30 individuals' cars.




09:11:31 So, through his experience and great observation skills, he

09:11:36 was able to solve three auto burglaries before the victims

09:11:41 even knew they were victims.

09:11:43 They knocked on their door, woke them up and returned their

09:11:46 property before they realized they had been victimized.

09:11:50 He saw a suspicious individual walking down Kennedy

09:11:52 Boulevard, go through a parking lot of a closed business and

09:11:55 through a hedge row.

09:11:56 He turned his vehicle around where he could conduct some

09:12:00 surveillance.

09:12:01 Got out, walked up to the individual.

09:12:03 By the time he got up to him, he found he had broken into a

09:12:06 FedEx truck and had actually removed the tracking system

09:12:09 from it.

09:12:10 So there was no way that the truck could be tracked through

09:12:12 FedEx.

09:12:13 And placed him under arrest for the attempted auto theft and

09:12:18 grand theft.

09:12:19 And found that the individual was going to drive that truck

09:12:21 to Miami.

09:12:22 So certainly it would be a while before FedEx ever got their

09:12:25 truck or property back, if it hadn't been for Sergeant

09:12:28 Ubinas.

09:12:30 And then was another incident where someone reported their

09:12:34 car stolen from a church parking lot.




09:12:37 He knew that was very unusual for that particular area and

09:12:40 for that parking lot, they really didn't have any crime in

09:12:44 that area.

09:12:44 So he surmised there was probably some juvenile, younger

09:12:47 kids that may have stolen this car.

09:12:49 He brought his entire squad together and basically broke the

09:12:53 area up into a grid search and assigned everyone an area to

09:12:57 search.

09:12:58 As he was patrolling a couple of the streets that he had

09:13:00 assigned to himself, he in fact located the vehicle, called

09:13:03 his squad in.

09:13:05 They surrounded the vehicle, stopped it, arrested the

09:13:08 individual for stealing the car and also found that that car

09:13:11 had been involved in an unreported hit-and-run as well.

09:13:14 So those are just a few examples of what he has done that,

09:13:18 in the last couple months, he's a very hard-working

09:13:21 individual, and as I said, what I appreciate is that he

09:13:24 leads by example and he leads from the front.

09:13:27 He's an outstanding individual, outstanding supervisor, and

09:13:31 we're very proud to name him as our Officer of the Month for

09:13:34 October, 2011.

09:13:35 Thank you.

09:13:37 [ Applause ]

09:13:45 >> On behalf of the Tampa City Council, we would like to

09:13:48 present you this commendation as being selected as the




09:13:51 officer for the month of October.

09:13:54 Congratulations.

09:13:56 >> Thank you, sir.

09:13:56 [ Applause ]

09:14:02 >> Also have a few gifts to give, present to you.

09:14:08 >> Congratulations on behalf of the PBA.

09:14:11 $100 Visa gift card.

09:14:14 >> Thank you very much.

09:14:15 [ Applause ]

09:14:19 >>> Straz center.

09:14:22 We're very proud to have you serving us.

09:14:25 Tickets to the Miles Davis experience.

09:14:27 If you have any problem, just give us a call.

09:14:31 >> Thank you very much.

09:14:32 [ Applause ]

09:14:35 >>> Good morning.

09:14:36 Steve Stickley, representing Stepp's Towing service.

09:14:39 On behalf of Jim and Judy and Todd Stepp, we'd like to

09:14:43 present you this token of our appreciation for job very well

09:14:47 done.

09:14:48 We also have a gift card and a parking pass --

09:14:53 [ Laughter ]

09:14:54 >> Thank you, sir.

09:14:56 Thank you very much.

09:14:57 [ Applause ]




09:15:01 >> Good morning, Council.

09:15:02 I'm Frank Cassotto representing Bill Currie Ford and Lincoln

09:15:09 and the Currie family.

09:15:10 Please accept this watch with our appreciation for a job

09:15:12 well done.

09:15:13 >> Thank you very much.

09:15:19 >> Good morning.

09:15:22 Joe Durkin, representing Bright House Networks.

09:15:25 Sergeant, congratulations on behalf of all of us at Bright

09:15:28 House Networks.

09:15:29 Thank you.

09:15:29 We'd like to present you one month complimentary service of

09:15:34 all our services.

09:15:37 Welcome to Bright House.

09:15:39 >> Thank you.

09:15:39 [ Applause ]

09:15:41 >> I'm from island flowers.

09:15:45 These aren't for you, they're for your significant other.

09:15:48 They're the ones that make it all possible.

09:15:55 [ Applause ]

09:15:59 >> Steve Michelini would normally be here to present

09:16:03 additional certificates to you.

09:16:04 He's not here, so he asked me to continue for him.

09:16:08 I'm going to present this certificate of $100 for Bern's

09:16:14 Steak House.




09:16:17 >> Thank you.

09:16:17 [ Applause ]

09:16:19 >> Also have a certificate from Prestige Portrait.

09:16:23 Used to be Bryn Allen studio.

09:16:28 $100.

09:16:29 >> Thank you.

09:16:29 [ Applause ]

09:16:31 >> And we also have a certificate for lunch or dinner, value

09:16:36 of $50, at your favorite restaurant, I was told, 220 Davis.

09:16:43 >> Absolutely.

09:16:45 [ Laughter ]

09:16:46 >> Thank you very much.

09:16:46 [ Applause ]

09:16:53 >> Real briefly, I really just want to recognize my squad.

09:16:58 This is not an individual achievement.

09:17:00 I think it's a team achievement.

09:17:02 I have the pleasure of supervising 12 other officers.

09:17:08 It would not be possible without us working as a team.

09:17:11 It's a great group of guys.

09:17:12 I really became lucky to have been working with them for two

09:17:16 years, and I'm just kind of signing up for a third year to

09:17:20 stay with the same group.

09:17:21 And none of them are leaving the unit.

09:17:23 Every year we get an opportunity to shift bait or change

09:17:26 districts.




09:17:27 And every single person on my squad has decided to remain

09:17:30 together.

09:17:30 So it's a great unit.

09:17:32 It's something that you don't have -- you're not lucky

09:17:35 enough to have all the time.

09:17:39 I've been supervising for five years, this is a great unit.

09:17:42 And the chain of command I work for as well, a chain of

09:17:45 command that enables us, allows us to make mistakes,

09:17:48 underwrites those mistakes, encourages us when we fail, on

09:17:53 those few occasions when we fail, to get up and do it

09:17:56 better.

09:17:56 I'm thankful to my chain of command, as well as my

09:18:01 lieutenant Rubin Delgado and my major, who is now retired,

09:18:05 Major Sal Ruggiero.

09:18:07 Thank you to them as well.

09:18:08 Thank you to City Council for recognizing me.

09:18:10 Thank you.

09:18:11 [ Applause ]

09:18:19 >>MARY MULHERN: Our next item -- ceremonial item,

09:18:38 Councilwoman Capin -- I'm sorry, Councilwoman Montelione was

09:18:42 going to present recognition for individuals who recognized

09:18:47 by the state fair for their urban agriculture.

09:18:59 >> Good morning everyone.

09:19:00 I had the distinct pleasure of attending the Hillsborough

09:19:05 County fair in order to give the awards on behalf of the




09:19:11 city to a few individuals who have made a tremendous

09:19:15 difference in our community.

09:19:17 And since the time I made the motion to bring them here as,

09:19:23 possible awardees, nominees for agribusiness and

09:19:28 agricultural awards, on farming, they won those awards.

09:19:32 So, it was really quite special to be at the fair and to

09:19:39 deliver these awards to the individuals.

09:19:41 So, if I could have the members of Tampa Heights Community

09:19:46 Gardens, Seminole Heights Community Gardens and Rick

09:19:50 Martinez from Sweetwater farms, as well as Kitty Wallace,

09:19:56 come forward.

09:19:57 Mr. Martinez, you first.

09:20:04 Rick has been a leading figure in the organic food

09:20:08 industries for decades.

09:20:10 During the 1990s, he played a role in creating many

09:20:14 regulations and standards that we know today.

09:20:16 With over 30 years of experience in the industry, Rick has

09:20:22 been able to provide his expertise and services to countless

09:20:26 farms, processing facilities, governmental and

09:20:28 nongovernmental entities here in the United States and in

09:20:31 over 30 countries around the world.

09:20:33 Rick also served two terms as board president of the

09:20:38 International Organic Inspectors Association in the 1990s.

09:20:42 For years, Rick has been an organic farmer in Tampa.

09:20:45 In 1995, he founded Sweetwater organic farms.




09:20:50 To bring increased awareness of organic foods and expand

09:20:53 their availability to our region.

09:20:55 Under his leadership, this non-profit, community-supported

09:21:00 farm has seen an exponential increase in membership from ten

09:21:04 at its start to over 400 members today.

09:21:07 Two weeks ago, Rick was the winner of the 2011 agribusiness

09:21:11 of the year award at the Hillsborough County harvest awards.

09:21:15 Rick, you had foresight that I don't think a lot of people

09:21:21 had when you started Sweetwater farms, people probably

09:21:25 thought you were just out there and crazy.

09:21:28 But, you really, you really were the first to do this in our

09:21:33 area.

09:21:34 And if it weren't for you, I don't think any of the other

09:21:37 folks would be here today.

09:21:39 So thank you for everything, Rick.

09:21:40 [ Applause ]

09:21:49 >> I'd like to thank everyone who has played a role, all of

09:21:53 you, all the community, of making Sweetwater something

09:21:57 special.

09:21:58 And I'm real happy to see the changes that are happening in

09:22:02 the city, with the ordinance, I want to thank Mary and all

09:22:05 of you have worked so hard to make that a reality.

09:22:09 And it's important for us to get back in touch with our

09:22:15 food, for our children to know that food doesn't come from a

09:22:17 package.




09:22:18 And that it's really essential for their health and

09:22:20 well-being long-term.

09:22:22 And so, I think this is a good start for us to start

09:22:26 changing things in a way that will benefit the future

09:22:30 generations.

09:22:31 So thank you, guys.

09:22:32 [ Applause ]

09:22:39 >> Robin Milcowitz.

09:22:41 Robin Milcowitz is the founder of Seminole Heights Community

09:22:46 Gardens and a leader in the movement to bring Community

09:22:48 Gardens to the City of Tampa.

09:22:50 She was a driving force behind a two year battle for a

09:22:53 community garden ordinance in Tampa, which we passed several

09:22:56 month ago.

09:22:57 After three years of long talk, discussions.

09:23:03 Her work has spread to other neighborhoods across our city,

09:23:06 as we have seen at the start of community garden in the

09:23:09 neighborhoods of Tampa Heights, Sulphur Springs and West

09:23:11 Tampa.

09:23:12 Her work has helped to bring a sense of community in the

09:23:16 neighborhood and has given residents something to be proud

09:23:18 of.

09:23:19 Through Robin's leadership, Seminole Heights Community

09:23:23 Gardens has been able to donate over 1600 pounds of fresh

09:23:26 citrus to Metropolitan Ministries and Tampa Bay harvest,




09:23:30 bringing fresh fruits from these neighborhood gardens to

09:23:32 people in need.

09:23:33 They have also donated fresh kale and lettuces to

09:23:37 Metropolitan Ministries, the attendees at Sunday morning

09:23:40 market in Seminole Heights and people who come by the

09:23:42 gardens or visit or work.

09:23:44 Her work has been so successful in bringing agriculture to

09:23:48 the areas that the city otherwise would not be exposed to.

09:23:50 Robin, for all the work that you do, and every time you

09:23:57 start digging in the dirt, we thank you very, very much.

09:24:00 >> Thank you very much.

09:24:01 [ Applause ]

09:24:07 >> Wow, this is amazing.

09:24:09 Actually, I'm very proud to hold this for all of us.

09:24:12 It's been a group effort to make all of these things happen.

09:24:17 And I can't say that I am the only one responsible, because

09:24:21 I'm not.

09:24:22 I never would have made any of this happen by myself.

09:24:25 And we wouldn't be standing here without the proactive

09:24:29 people that are on City Council, as well as the people over

09:24:33 at Hillsborough County fair.

09:24:34 That was a great thing to see happen.

09:24:37 And the recognition that's starting to happen through the

09:24:40 city and other entities, is making us a formidable thing.

09:24:45 So thank you very much.




09:24:47 [ Applause ]

09:24:52 >> Kitty Wallace, where are you?

09:24:55 There you are.

09:24:55 Kitty is a very special lady.

09:24:59 She is the retired Hillsborough County school teacher.

09:25:02 Thank you for that service.

09:25:04 But she never really left the classroom.

09:25:06 She continues to volunteer her time and energy to teach her

09:25:10 passion for gardening to the young people in our local

09:25:12 schools.

09:25:13 She has impacted many students over the years and continues

09:25:16 to do so each day.

09:25:18 Kitty was one of the fighting forces in the movement to

09:25:21 encourage community gardening within the City of Tampa.

09:25:23 She helped gather and organize city-wide involvement in

09:25:28 support of the new community gardening ordinance that we

09:25:30 passed recently.

09:25:31 At the 2011 Hillsborough County harvest awards, our city's

09:25:35 director of growth management and development services, Thom

09:25:38 Snelling, our green officer as well, presented Kitty's award

09:25:42 and said her contagious let's get it done approach inspires

09:25:47 all who come in contact with her.

09:25:49 And she literally keeps a shovel in her car at all times to

09:25:53 be ready for gardening opportunities.

09:25:55 She certainly is a special individual.




09:25:59 At the awards ceremony two weeks ago, Kitty was honored with

09:26:04 a 2011 outstanding public service and community service

09:26:08 award.

09:26:08 Kitty, thank you so much for taking care of our children and

09:26:13 teaching them where their meals come from and how important

09:26:18 it is to really educate themselves in the biodiversity of

09:26:23 our farms.

09:26:24 >> Well, thank you very much.

09:26:25 It is just pure joy to work with children and have them

09:26:34 learn things right in front of your eyes, like when we

09:26:37 passed by one of the fellow gardener's plots and they could

09:26:41 see those radishes popping out of the ground as they're

09:26:44 growing.

09:26:45 They, you know, that is just real.

09:26:47 And so it's been a pleasure to be a part of the community

09:26:51 gardening movement and I hope you all are proud of what

09:26:54 we're doing.

09:26:55 Thank you.

09:26:55 [ Applause ]

09:27:01 >> Everyone from Tampa Heights, gather round.

09:27:03 Last but not least, I want to recognize all of the

09:27:07 individuals behind the Tampa Heights community garden.

09:27:09 Their unwavering commitment to bringing community gardening

09:27:14 to the Tampa Heights neighborhood should be commended.

09:27:17 In and of itself.




09:27:19 This organization patiently wait -- worked with the Florida

09:27:22 department of transportation and the City of Tampa parks and

09:27:25 recreation department to arrange for a long-term lease from

09:27:29 the FDOT.

09:27:30 The first time the state has ever allowed land to be used

09:27:35 for a community garden.

09:27:36 It is also the first time the city's parks and recreation

09:27:40 department participated in the establishment of a community

09:27:43 garden.

09:27:43 The worthwhile partnership took ten long years of

09:27:48 perseverance before becoming reality.

09:27:51 You're laughing.

09:27:53 [ Laughter ]

09:27:56 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Remember all the difficult times which

09:27:58 they said we'd look back on and laugh about some day.

09:28:01 Founding members, with me today, with us today, Tampa

09:28:05 Heights community garden has set a precedent that many hope

09:28:09 will become a model for others in Tampa.

09:28:12 Perhaps even the state.

09:28:13 This project has helped bring about a sense of community for

09:28:17 the area, which is known for its socioeconomic standing and

09:28:21 depressed property values.

09:28:22 Studies have shown that it could potentially help improve

09:28:26 the property values of the neighborhood and added benefit is

09:28:29 the mentoring of young people who learn new skills, which




09:28:32 may lead to employment opportunities.

09:28:34 The Tampa Heights community garden was able to successfully

09:28:38 bring Community Gardens to the Tampa Heights area, a

09:28:41 neighborhood that has been, the project that has been

09:28:44 allowing numerous individuals to obtain plots of land to

09:28:48 provide fresh garden-grown vegetables for themselves.

09:28:51 This has helped foster a spirit of healthy eating and a

09:28:54 sense of community to the residents of Tampa Heights.

09:28:56 To date, there are over the 25 individual plots and another

09:29:00 handful of communal plots that serve to grow beautiful

09:29:04 flowers and plants as well as fresh fruits and vegetables.

09:29:07 Two weeks ago, Tampa Heights community garden was honored

09:29:10 with a 2011 urban agriculturalist of the year award.

09:29:15 That's not an easy thing to say.

09:29:17 Everyone, your work -- I want to bring up.

09:29:29 She was sitting at her table literally in tears when the

09:29:32 award was announced for Tampa Heights.

09:29:34 She's worked so hard over all these years, as well as

09:29:38 everyone else in Tampa Heights.

09:29:40 So, Lena, please accept this.

09:29:44 [ Applause ]

09:29:51 >> Well, I got caught this morning.

09:29:53 Wanted to say how appreciative we are of receiving the other

09:29:59 award from the Hillsborough County harvest and the

09:30:04 recognition from City Council.




09:30:05 The members sitting up there and Councilwoman Lisa knows

09:30:15 firsthand to get here.

09:30:19 Mary Mulhern, if it weren't for her leadership within the

09:30:23 City Council and the hard work of Robin, we would not have

09:30:27 gotten to this point.

09:30:29 And we thank you.

09:30:30 Carol has been behind this effort for 10 years, and this

09:30:33 effort and more.

09:30:34 And like everyone else has said, this is not a one-person

09:30:38 effort.

09:30:38 This is a community effort.

09:30:41 And as we plan the implementation of our neighborhood plan

09:30:46 of which the community garden is a part, we're so happy to

09:30:50 have this recognition.

09:30:54 One of the things that's happening is the garden is serving

09:30:58 as a community, a sense of community location, and there are

09:31:03 so many residents that are just coming together.

09:31:06 One person had been on the block for 10 years, and hadn't

09:31:09 known her neighbors.

09:31:12 And now they're getting to know each other.

09:31:14 And it's fantastic what's happening, in just two months.

09:31:18 So thank you all so much, Councilmember Reddick is our

09:31:22 direct representative and he planted his tree.

09:31:25 Along with all the other members.

09:31:29 So they have a vested interest in our garden.




09:31:31 We need you to come out on the 13th of November, a Sunday

09:31:36 afternoon, to just hang out and enjoy the garden with all

09:31:39 the rest of us.

09:31:40 So, thank you again and we appreciate your recognition so

09:31:44 much.

09:31:44 [ Applause ]

09:31:53 >> Thank you.

09:31:54 >> I would like to know, when can I come pick my fruit off

09:31:57 the tree?

09:31:58 [ Laughter ]

09:32:02 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilwoman Capin?

09:32:04 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yes.

09:32:04 I wanted to acknowledge, it is the first in the state, and

09:32:09 it is the first, because of the community.

09:32:13 That community and communities that we have in Tampa, and

09:32:16 the persistence of the residents in that community.

09:32:22 And I want to thank you for that.

09:32:26 Thank you very much.

09:32:26 Also, I know that you all are very involved in the greenway,

09:32:32 and look forward to working with you on that.

09:32:38 >>MARY MULHERN: I want to just thank all of you for hanging

09:32:41 in there, and mention a few other gardens that may be --

09:32:45 maybe next year will be -- we have so many Community Gardens

09:32:49 that came up in the last few years, since this movement has

09:32:53 started.




09:32:54 Some of the people here were -- all of these gardens helped

09:32:59 each other happen.

09:33:00 Robin Milcowitz, Carol and Kitty and Rick Martinez, the

09:33:08 godfather of urban agriculture.

09:33:11 We got Palmetto beach, Sulphur Springs, we have Ybor City.

09:33:16 And over in Pinellas, I know this isn't the Pinellas County

09:33:20 fair, but there's so much happening there too.

09:33:23 So it's really exciting.

09:33:24 And I just think it's great that the county fair recognized

09:33:28 our urban agriculture.

09:33:29 So, thank you, congratulations, and yeah, let us know when

09:33:35 everything is ripe and ready.

09:33:37 [ Laughter ]

09:33:44 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilwoman Montelione?

09:33:48 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I wanted to say it was the very first

09:33:50 time that anyone from the City of Tampa attended the harvest

09:33:56 awards.

09:33:56 We were in the presence of long-term farmers in the

09:34:00 agribusiness, which is one of the leading economic drivers

09:34:04 of Hillsborough County.

09:34:06 And when I asked if anyone had ever attended before, and the

09:34:11 answer was no from the organizers, I asked all the people

09:34:14 who were there from Tampa to raise their hands.

09:34:16 And we had about 30, 35 people there, and they were quite

09:34:22 impressed as the contingent there from the City of Tampa.




09:34:26 So it was really a special night.

09:34:28 >>MARY MULHERN: Great.

09:34:29 Okay.

09:34:31 Our next ceremonial item, Councilwoman Capin is going to

09:34:36 present the robotics team from Middleton high school with

09:34:40 commendation and also I guess we're going to see some

09:34:44 robotics.

09:34:52 >>YVONNE CAPIN: As I promised, the commendation for the

09:34:57 teams and the award winning team was in the spring.

09:35:00 And at that time, I promised that we would keep up with this

09:35:04 team and here we have a new school year, so I invited them

09:35:07 to come forth and tell us about their program and what they

09:35:11 are planning.

09:35:12 And one of the things that I didn't mention back in the

09:35:16 spring was that I follow robotics.

09:35:18 I record it.

09:35:19 I follow collegiate and high school robotics competition.

09:35:24 It is very interesting.

09:35:25 I recommend it highly.

09:35:33 >> Thank you.

09:35:34 Good morning Councils, I'd like to take this opportunity to

09:35:37 thank the Councilwoman Capin for her interest in the

09:35:41 sciences, especially in the areas of robotics.

09:35:44 Middleton high school is on the cutting edge.

09:35:47 We have a stem program that we anticipate will lead this




09:35:52 country in technological advancements and scientific

09:35:55 discovery.

09:35:55 What you see here, we have several of our students, we have

09:35:58 Jason, Eli, levy and Adam, who we brought along with our

09:36:04 lead teacher, magnet lead teacher to share a little bit

09:36:07 about the upcoming events at Middleton high school.

09:36:10 My expectation, as the principal, is that first we're going

09:36:15 to make Tampa, Florida a very proud place as it pertains to

09:36:19 our leadership in this field of science, technology,

09:36:22 engineering and mathematics.

09:36:24 So I want to turn it over to Cathy to speak a little bit

09:36:29 about what we have coming up and have the robotics team come

09:36:32 up and perform with our new robot.

09:36:34 Jason told me is a little stronger and a little heavier this

09:36:39 year.

09:36:39 I asked him, did it have to be engineered like that in order

09:36:42 to better compete?

09:36:44 And he said definitely.

09:36:46 After last year's competition, which we did go to the world

09:36:49 competition in St. Louis, we should've won.

09:36:53 We had a small mishap.

09:36:55 But we did set a world record in a competition in Daytona

09:37:00 with one of our robots who burned out an engine, which wills

09:37:04 been in the St. Louis competition, but we're going to make

09:37:06 that wrong right this year.




09:37:09 [ Applause ]

09:37:14 >> I do want to add, our robotics team, we have grown to

09:37:18 four teams this year.

09:37:19 We had two teams last year.

09:37:21 And one of those teams, were one of three in Florida that

09:37:25 qualified for the world championship.

09:37:27 So Tampa really is getting on the map as far as robotics.

09:37:31 And understand, there are more and more elementary schools

09:37:35 that are joining the first robotics program.

09:37:38 And we have middle schools and high schools here in the

09:37:40 Tampa area.

09:37:41 But Middleton is becoming one of the strongest robotics

09:37:44 teams in Florida.

09:37:46 I could tell you when we attend tournaments and a couple of

09:37:50 our teams come into the floor, we look at the face of the

09:37:53 other team members from all over Florida, and they're like

09:37:56 throwing up arms.

09:37:57 Well, we might as well leave.

09:37:59 [ Laughter ]

09:38:00 >> Middleton's here.

09:38:01 So, it's a lot of fun.

09:38:03 I have to mention too that we have to thank our parents.

09:38:07 We could not do it without them.

09:38:09 We have -- we have so many parents who have stepped up to

09:38:14 the plate and we have dads who come every Wednesday and




09:38:17 Friday after school, because our kids meet twice a week from

09:38:19 3:00 to 5:00.

09:38:21 And we have to kick them out because they would sleep over

09:38:23 if we'd let them.

09:38:24 But they've really made our robotics team soar.

09:38:29 So want to introduce our team members.

09:38:31 And Adam has an invite for everybody.

09:38:33 Adam, come on up and tell them about what we have coming up.

09:38:38 >> On December 3rd, we have an open house for Middleton high

09:38:43 school.

09:38:43 And we will be displaying our robotics team.

09:38:48 We have other competition, basically car racing.

09:38:51 About ten foot long, big old cars, we make out of pieces

09:38:55 that we buy.

09:38:56 We also have whole bunch of other programs.

09:39:01 We have a lot of programs coming up.

09:39:03 On that date.

09:39:05 And whoever wants to come is completely open, anyone can

09:39:08 come see our engineering programs we have GOP got going on.

09:39:12 And we encourage everyone to come because it's interesting

09:39:14 and fun thing to do.

09:39:16 >> We're going to leave with you some flyers, because it is

09:39:18 our magnet open house.

09:39:20 But we are hosting a robotics tournament.

09:39:23 We have 16 teams from all over Florida, who will be




09:39:25 attending Middleton that day.

09:39:27 So it is on a Saturday.

09:39:28 So we will leave these flyers up here for members of the

09:39:31 Council.

09:39:44 >> One of you want to come up and explain what's going on

09:39:49 here as you're running it?

09:39:56 >> Hi, I'm Jason Howard.

09:39:59 This year, we have the privilege of having a third Middleton

09:40:04 team.

09:40:04 And I get -- and I'm the captain of it.

09:40:07 This year, the goal of the game is actually to grab, pick up

09:40:12 racquetballs off the floor and then stack crates.

09:40:15 You have to put the racquetball within the crate or the

09:40:18 stack doesn't count.

09:40:18 And so, where our first tournament is in three weeks at

09:40:23 Hillsborough County high school and we're ahead of the game.

09:40:25 We have already pretty much fully completed the Robert and

09:40:29 all that's left to -- robot, all that's left to do is teach

09:40:32 all the new incoming members what it's like at your first

09:40:36 tournament.

09:40:37 And being as fully prepared as possible.

09:40:39 What it has to do first, all the crates are turned upside

09:40:45 down the beginning of the match.

09:40:46 So the first thing you have to do, it has to nip it over.

09:40:49 So, they're stacked on top with 25 racquetballs stacked on




09:40:53 top of each crate.

09:40:55 That's to knock over the crates and then collect the

09:40:59 racquetballs, flip over the crates, put the balls in the

09:41:02 crates and stack them, all within two minutes.

09:41:04 At the beginning of the match, is a 30 second period -- go

09:41:11 ahead and just take them off.

09:41:13 And flip them.

09:41:14 [ Laughter ]

09:41:23 >> So, pretty much you drive around and you pick up

09:41:28 racquetballs.

09:41:30 Or you can get caught on a crate.

09:41:32 At the beginning of the match, we flip over the crates, the

09:41:39 right way.

09:41:40 Yeah, no pressure.

09:41:45 Just pick up the racquetball.

09:41:48 [ Laughter ]

09:41:49 So at the beginning of the match, we pick up -- we flip over

09:41:59 the crates and pick up the racquetballs.

09:42:01 The hard part about the racquetballs, the racquetballs all

09:42:06 compressed.

09:42:07 So creating something that picks up the racquetballs is

09:42:10 extremely hard.

09:42:11 And also the static friction that comes in between when two

09:42:14 racquetballs touch, also makes it extremely hard.

09:42:17 So we can only use one ball system for our bulk, because if




09:42:21 we -- if we pick multiple balls up at one time, within the

09:42:25 belt, then they often will press.

09:42:29 We use momentum of each ball to flip the balls into the

09:42:35 second piece of PVC.

09:42:38 And then we just lift elevator system.

09:42:43 We lift elevator system -- lift elevator system.

09:42:47 [ Laughter ]

09:42:47 Higher, higher.

09:42:52 All right.

09:42:54 And from there, we go up along the crate, in this case,

09:42:58 would be the blue crate.

09:42:59 Open up, and put the ball in.

09:43:06 [ Applause ]

09:43:11 >> And so now we ride up and we hook into the opening of the

09:43:16 crate.

09:43:17 And lift it up.

09:43:18 And at the end of the game is the end game.

09:43:25 During the end game, we lift, we lift the stack or however

09:43:29 many we can get in those two minutes, we lift the entire

09:43:33 stack up to the maximum height -- maximum height.

09:43:39 So, it goes all the way up to that point.

09:43:43 And if we have, the max we can put is six crates, so six

09:43:49 crate would go up to about right here.

09:43:51 Would be almost as tall as me.

09:43:55 Which is a lot of points.




09:43:56 And we feel even with just two crates at the Hillsborough

09:43:59 tournament is enough it takes to win.

09:44:03 [ Applause ]

09:44:16 >>YVONNE CAPIN: See how entertaining it is?

09:44:18 You did good.

09:44:23 Thank you.

09:44:24 Are we ready?

09:44:35 Thank you all for being here.

09:44:36 Thank you Principal Young for bringing them here.

09:44:40 And for keeping us informed.

09:44:42 And we will be following and we will have you back later on

09:44:45 in the school year.

09:44:46 Thank you.

09:44:47 We want to know all about how it's going.

09:44:49 And I will be there December 3rd.

09:44:52 Next, we have Lissette Campos, director of community affairs

09:45:00 for ABC action news 28.

09:45:02 She's going to make a presentation regarding domestic

09:45:05 violence awareness month, which is October.

09:45:07 And I wanted, I asked her to be here before the month was

09:45:11 up, to talk about this.

09:45:13 And their involvement, which is over and above any news

09:45:19 program or TV station.

09:45:21 This is -- the prime time, October 14th program that they

09:45:29 had on ABC action news and it was taking action against




09:45:33 domestic violence.

09:45:34 And Lissette is here to present and talk to us about it.

09:45:38 And the month of October and how important it is to be

09:45:41 aware.

09:45:45 >> Thank you.

09:45:46 It's wonderful to be here this morning.

09:45:51 I thank you for the invitation.

09:45:52 I kind of feel weird, having my back to the group.

09:45:56 Domestic violence awareness month is not something that a

09:46:00 lot of folks will talk about.

09:46:01 It is the month of October.

09:46:02 And advocates have selected this time to talk about an issue

09:46:06 that otherwise folks really do not want to even think about.

09:46:10 And during the month of October, you see all the pink, the

09:46:13 beautiful pink ribbon.

09:46:15 One in eight women in this country will come down with

09:46:19 breast cancer at some point in their lives.

09:46:21 One in eight.

09:46:22 But when you look at the statistics for domestic violence,

09:46:25 it's one in every four woman in our country will face

09:46:28 domestic violence in their lifetime.

09:46:30 This is an issue that affect all genders, men are victims as

09:46:33 well.

09:46:34 One in every seven men will face domestic violence.

09:46:38 And there was a study done recently that talked to the




09:46:41 teenagers to see what their involvement, how this issue is

09:46:45 affecting them.

09:46:46 And the frightening statistic was that as bad as it sounds

09:46:51 to say one in every four women, and one in every seven men

09:46:54 in this country, when they talked to the teenagers, it turns

09:46:57 out that one in every three teenagers knows someone their

09:47:01 own age who has been affected in a physical or emotional

09:47:05 abusive relationship by a dating partner.

09:47:10 So we at the station decided in 2008 to take a look at this

09:47:15 issue and see how we can make a difference.

09:47:17 It has really changed many lives in our community and we're

09:47:21 very proud to say that it's really changed the thinking of

09:47:24 the employees at the station.

09:47:26 Really turning all the employees into informal advocates, so

09:47:30 to speak.

09:47:32 I love telling the story of my daughter.

09:47:35 I have two girls, Audrey is eight and Sophie is 13 years

09:47:39 old.

09:47:39 And she hears me talk about the campaign a lot at home.

09:47:43 Sometimes good, sometimes bad, because it's a lot of work.

09:47:47 And just when you think they're not listening, they remind

09:47:51 you that they are.

09:47:52 And it gives you hope in the project and it reminds you of

09:47:55 why it's so important.

09:47:56 She hears me talk about the emotional abuse, the physical




09:48:00 abuse, the warning signs.

09:48:01 We talk about the Duluth model, all these different things

09:48:05 that we use at the station to really educate all of us,

09:48:08 whether you're a victim, survivor, an advocate or just a

09:48:11 resident who's not affected by this, what the warning signs

09:48:14 are so that you can make a difference.

09:48:15 And she came home one day and she says mommy, I need the

09:48:19 list that you share with your viewers about the warning

09:48:22 signs, because there's someone in my school that I think

09:48:26 that she may be a victim of abuse.

09:48:28 And I know the specific person that she's talking about,

09:48:32 always smiling, always very pleasant.

09:48:35 There are no bruises on her.

09:48:37 She's not absent, chronically absent, nothing like that.

09:48:40 And so, I thought that my daughter was really, you know,

09:48:44 taking all of my work and my constant talking about this

09:48:46 project to the extreme.

09:48:47 And that she was wrong.

09:48:49 Well, a month later I had the opportunity to talk to this

09:48:52 particular teacher that she was concerned about.

09:48:55 The teacher was having a bad day.

09:48:56 And so I asked her, I said how are you doing?

09:48:59 How's your little boy?

09:49:01 How's everything?

09:49:02 And she confided in me, because she knows of the work that




09:49:05 we do at the station, that she was having trouble at home.

09:49:08 And in fact, she is a victim of abuse.

09:49:12 She's a victim of emotional abuse, and she's concerned that

09:49:17 it may escalate into physical abuse.

09:49:19 And so, at that moment, I -- I was overwhelmed because I

09:49:25 realized that my 13-year-old daughter is educated and my

09:49:29 hope is that she will not allow this to go ignored when she

09:49:35 sees someone who needs help.

09:49:37 That she will speak up, that she will offer help.

09:49:40 That she will know also to protect herself and her little

09:49:44 sister Audrey and the people that he loves around her.

09:49:48 So, I encourage you to take a look at this issue.

09:49:51 It is difficult to talk about, but there are ways that you

09:49:54 can bring it up, in a way that makes the other person

09:49:57 comfortable, even as simple as wearing a purple ribbon.

09:50:01 First, always ask, oh, is that a different shade of pink?

09:50:04 And then you say no, it's purple and let me tell you why.

09:50:07 And over the course of the three and a half years that we

09:50:10 have been working on this campaign, we have noticed that a

09:50:13 lot of folks will say well, it's really none of my business,

09:50:16 I wouldn't know what to say if I came across someone who may

09:50:19 be a victim.

09:50:21 What would I do?

09:50:21 I'm not an advocate, I don't work at a domestic violence

09:50:26 center, I don't know what to say.




09:50:27 We are not -- advocates never ask folks to put their lives

09:50:30 on the line.

09:50:31 What they're saying is, you extend courtesy to that person

09:50:36 and you let them know that there are trained professionals

09:50:39 who can help them talk over things and help them reach a

09:50:42 safe place.

09:50:43 And you give them the statewide domestic violence hotline

09:50:48 number.

09:50:48 1-800-500-1119.

09:50:51 That's the statewide domestic violence hotline.

09:50:54 It's 1-800-500-1119.

09:51:00 The caller can remain anonymous.

09:51:02 And it transfers the call directly to the advocate that's

09:51:05 within the same area code number that the person is calling

09:51:08 in from.

09:51:10 This is a call that is not just for the victim, it's also

09:51:13 for a family, for a friend who has questions.

09:51:16 Like my 13-year-old daughter could have called that hotline

09:51:18 and asked them questions to help her friend.

09:51:21 So, with that, I don't want to take up more of your time.

09:51:25 I really appreciate you all having me come in.

09:51:28 Thank you, Yolie.

09:51:30 This is something that we hope will help, since we started

09:51:33 the campaign in 2008.

09:51:35 We have had three prime time specials.




09:51:37 The campaigns are six weeks of public service announcements,

09:51:40 special reports and one-hour prime time special.

09:51:43 And the coalition against domestic violence has told us

09:51:48 they've seen a 60% -- 6-O, increase in the number of calls

09:51:52 to the hotline, since we started the campaign.

09:51:55 And when they look at the months that the spikes occur,

09:51:58 they're specific to the six weeks that we are on the air and

09:52:01 specific to the night that we have our one-hour prime time

09:52:04 special.

09:52:05 I just want to end with one thing.

09:52:07 If you think that domestic violence does not affect you, it

09:52:11 does.

09:52:12 We decided that we would run our prime time special

09:52:16 overnight at 12:30, 1:30 in the morning, just to see what

09:52:20 would happen.

09:52:21 Nobody's watching at that time, right?

09:52:24 Well, turns out that we have had to rebroadcast it three

09:52:27 times from the 12:30 to 1:30 time period.

09:52:31 12:30 to 1:30 a.m.

09:52:33 And the ratings have been as high or higher than when we

09:52:37 initially broadcast it at 8:00 p.m. for the debut.

09:52:41 And it has been the number one program in that crazy time

09:52:45 period when you think nobody is watching.

09:52:47 We received an e-mail from a woman who said, I didn't watch

09:52:51 it the first time completely.




09:52:52 I turned it off.

09:52:53 It was too early.

09:52:54 My husband was in the room.

09:52:55 But I watched it that third time that it played, my friend

09:52:59 told me it was going to play at 12:35 in the morning.

09:53:02 And I realized by watching it that I am a victim of domestic

09:53:05 violence.

09:53:06 I'm a victim of the emotional abuse that precedes the

09:53:09 physical.

09:53:09 So I thank you for your support.

09:53:11 I urge you, if you haven't seen our campaign or our program

09:53:14 already, to please visit us online.

09:53:17 Our web site is on 24 hours, 364 days of the year.

09:53:22 And it's ABC action news.com slash TV.

09:53:25 It has all the information that you need to share with your

09:53:28 colleagues and your friends and family.

09:53:29 So thank you again.

09:53:32 [ Applause ]

09:53:38 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.

09:53:39 Real quickly, when that campaign started, with Lissette

09:53:43 Campos, which took the lead on that, was 2008.

09:53:46 And that's when I came on board.

09:53:48 And I serve on the board of directors of the spring.

09:53:52 And the spring was awarded a campaign -- an advertising

09:54:01 campaign that two high school and middle school students.




09:54:08 It is titled "I own me" and it's been very successful.

09:54:13 And thank you for letting us bring this forth.

09:54:20 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you, Ms. Campos, and thank you

09:54:23 Councilwoman Capin for bringing her to present this.

09:54:26 Very impressive.

09:54:27 We're going to move on to our workshop agenda.

09:54:36 I believe.

09:54:37 And one of the items, Mr. Shelby wanted to ask for a

09:54:47 continuance, I believe on item number eight.

09:54:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: If I can, Council.

09:54:52 With your approval, I'm requesting a continuance on item 8

09:55:00 regarding amendments to the rules of procedure relating to

09:55:04 special call meetings to discuss QTI applications.

09:55:07 Council, I am requesting that it be continued to

09:55:13 November 17th.

09:55:14 And I have had an opportunity to speak with Michael Hatchett

09:55:17 to put together the language that would serve the

09:55:21 department's purposes.

09:55:24 However, he says that there is nothing in the pipeline now

09:55:29 that would cause Council to have to take any action any

09:55:32 sooner than that.

09:55:33 So with your indulgence, Council, I would request it be

09:55:36 continued to a staff report for November 17th.

09:55:38 And as an aside, it is my intention that the Chairman should

09:55:41 be back by then, to be able to address changes to the




09:55:44 Council's rules.

09:55:45 That's my understanding.

09:55:48 >> Well, I'll move to continue the item until it -- it was

09:55:52 November 17th?

09:55:53 >> Yes.

09:55:54 >> At 9:30?

09:55:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Staff reports are usually at 10:00.

09:55:59 >> Thank you.

09:56:00 >> Second.

09:56:03 >>MARY MULHERN: Item number 8, the QTI.

09:56:05 Is there a second?

09:56:08 >> Second.

09:56:10 >>MARY MULHERN: Motion made by Councilwoman Montelione,

09:56:13 seconded by Councilman Reddick.

09:56:15 All in favor?

09:56:16 Aye.

09:56:17 >> Thank you, City Council.

09:56:18 Thank you.

09:56:19 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you, Mr. Shelby.

09:56:21 And we will move on to item number 5.

09:56:26 >> Good morning, Council.

09:56:28 Thom Snelling, growth management, development services.

09:56:31 Before I get started, I have something I would like to read

09:56:34 from Cathy Coyle.

09:56:35 Just going to read it so I don't mess this up.




09:56:39 She would really respectfully like to request a schedule for

09:56:42 30 minute on November 10 following the CRA meetings public

09:56:45 workshop to review the proposed July 2011 text amendment

09:56:49 cycle.

09:56:50 And the reason for that is that no other regularly scheduled

09:56:54 Council workshops for the remainder of the 2011 calendar.

09:56:57 So she is just looking for Council workshop on the July text

09:57:01 amendments.

09:57:02 On November 10th.

09:57:06 >>MARY MULHERN: Is this related to the -- she's not going to

09:57:11 be presenting today?

09:57:12 >> No, I am going to be presenting.

09:57:14 Myself and Julia.

09:57:16 >> She's in Los Angeles.

09:57:18 >>MARY MULHERN: Oh, she's out of town.

09:57:19 >> I'm sorry.

09:57:20 >>MARY MULHERN: But is it on the same -- on the same

09:57:23 subject?

09:57:24 >> Yeah.

09:57:25 The July 2011 text amendments, chapter 27.

09:57:30 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.

09:57:31 And that is to do with the comprehensive plan with the new

09:57:35 growth management launch changes?

09:57:39 >> No, this is a request for separate workshop entirely.

09:57:43 Taken the opportunity to do that now so I didn't forget




09:57:46 later on in the day.

09:57:47 I'm asking for --

09:57:49 >>MARY MULHERN: But it is a workshop item?

09:57:52 Okay.

09:57:52 Our motion to schedule that.

09:57:57 >> I will move to schedule Cathy Coyle to give a ten minute

09:58:00 presentation on the text amendments to the comprehensive

09:58:04 plan on November 10th --

09:58:09 >> If I can, I'm sorry to interrupt.

09:58:11 This would be text amendments to chapter 27, not the

09:58:15 comprehensive plan.

09:58:15 This would be normally what would be done periodically on

09:58:19 the amendment cycle that's done periodically.

09:58:24 But because there's no workshop, the tenth of November is a

09:58:28 CRA day, with a full evening session, ten items.

09:58:32 So if Council were to set this on November 10th following

09:58:35 the CRA, it would be at a special call meeting.

09:58:38 If that were Council's pleasure.

09:58:40 And my recommendation would be that you set it for, I don't

09:58:43 know how long you'd anticipate the CRA taking, but some

09:58:46 point after, to a certain time.

09:58:47 As long as it's after that time.

09:58:50 10:00 or 10:30 or whatever time the CRA you think might get

09:58:54 done.

09:58:55 Set it for a little bit before that time.




09:58:57 And a new time after that you could start up your meeting as

09:59:01 long as it's after that.

09:59:03 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilwoman Capin?

09:59:05 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Was it for ten minutes or 30 minutes?

09:59:09 >> I don't think there actually is a time request.

09:59:12 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I thought this was.

09:59:13 I'm sorry.

09:59:14 >> Those usually do take some time, Council.

09:59:17 >>MARY MULHERN: All right.

09:59:18 --

09:59:19 >> There's only a few amendments.

09:59:21 15 minutes, I think she should be able to wrap it up.

09:59:25 That completely depends on the questions.

09:59:26 Just a workshop to inform you what those are, because those

09:59:29 Will be coming back again.

09:59:31 >> Then my motion would be to have Cathy Coyle come to

09:59:35 special call session of Council immediately following the

09:59:39 CRA on November 10th, and I would, does 11:30 sound?

09:59:53 >> If we finish earlier than that, we should be able to

09:59:55 start.

09:59:57 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So then, say 10:00?

09:59:59 >> Second.

10:00:00 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilmember Reddick and Mr. Shelby, did

10:00:05 you say we have ten items on the CRA agenda?

10:00:08 >>MARTIN SHELBY: No, you have ten items on the evening




10:00:10 agenda that start at 6:00.

10:00:12 Nine new land rezonings and one continued.

10:00:15 Presently, that's what's set.

10:00:16 >>MARY MULHERN: So we have no idea what's on the CRA agenda

10:00:19 at this point.

10:00:20 I'm a little concerned about doing this.

10:00:24 I actually think maybe we should -- this should be taken

10:00:30 up -- it's a regular Council presentation, and don't we

10:00:35 normally have those text amendment changes as a workshop, at

10:00:39 a workshop meeting?

10:00:40 So why are we not presenting this perhaps at, at a workshop

10:00:48 meeting?

10:00:50 >> I think that the problem was is that you didn't have any

10:00:53 additional workshops scheduled in either November or

10:00:55 December.

10:00:56 And with the way our cycling works, typically that's when we

10:01:01 come forward with our text amendments, it's usually November

10:01:04 workshop, December Planning Commission for adoption in

10:01:06 December, to go into effect the beginning or middle of

10:01:10 January.

10:01:10 So, because you do not have any regularly scheduled

10:01:13 workshops, I think Ms. Coyle is trying to identify a time to

10:01:17 bring those forward to keep with our typical schedule.

10:01:23 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.

10:01:24 Yeah, I'm just looking at the schedule to see if there would




10:01:27 be any other time.

10:01:30 Okay.

10:01:30 And that's fine with you?

10:01:33 Councilman Reddick?

10:01:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: I think 10:00 or 10:30 would be fine, even

10:01:40 if we run late we still have that time slot.

10:01:43 Can break and come back.

10:01:45 >>MARY MULHERN: Motion made by Councilwoman Montelione,

10:01:47 seconded by Councilwoman Capin.

10:01:51 All in favor?

10:01:51 Aye.

10:01:52 Anyone opposed?

10:01:54 Okay.

10:01:54 Mr. Snelling?

10:01:55 >> Okay, thanks.

10:01:58 May I have the PowerPoint please?

10:02:00 I'm here this morning, agenda item 5, workshop on the

10:02:08 ongoing economic competitiveness committee.

10:02:11 And for the record, I would like to point out there are

10:02:13 members from the economic competitiveness committee here.

10:02:16 And this has been duly noted to allow for their

10:02:19 participation if Council so decides to allow folks to get up

10:02:23 and participate in the workshop.

10:02:24 So it has been legally noticed and will go from that

10:02:28 perspective.




10:02:29 The economy was formed in order to take a look at overall

10:02:39 regulatory processes codes, and to hopefully streamline and

10:02:44 improve the system that we currently use to review and

10:02:49 permit project as well as from the entitlement stage

10:02:53 straight through the processing of permittings and

10:02:56 certificates of occupancy.

10:02:57 So one of the first things that the group decided to do was

10:02:59 approach this as a planning effort and treat it as such.

10:03:03 So, what they did, they established this vision that you

10:03:06 have in front of me, or in front of you, and I do want to

10:03:09 point out a couple things about the vision.

10:03:11 I'm not going to read the slides entirely.

10:03:13 But what you'll see that comes throughout this discussion is

10:03:16 that there is certain commitment to the sustainable economic

10:03:19 development.

10:03:21 And the other bottom, also want to touch on, the idea of the

10:03:25 can-do spirit, which reaches into a lot of big ideas in

10:03:29 terms of customer service, training, cooperation, and things

10:03:32 like that that affect the actual staffs throughout the city.

10:03:36 From there, they decided they establish a mission and again,

10:03:41 I'll point out on the bottom line it says focus on clients

10:03:44 and outcomes.

10:03:45 Again, circling back to that motion that customer service in

10:03:48 this day and age really needs to be at the forefront as

10:03:52 we're moving forward, because that in so many ways when you




10:03:54 have somebody's really trying to help you, allows your

10:03:57 project to move, even if you're coming across bumps and

10:04:01 bruises as you're trying to move forward.

10:04:03 The goals of the group, again, you can take a look at those.

10:04:08 Analyze the regulatory system that they have.

10:04:12 To come up with recommended changes to those codes and

10:04:18 ordinances.

10:04:18 And also to look at the processes in technology.

10:04:23 You cannot just change your organization, change what your

10:04:25 codes require without updating your process and technology,

10:04:29 especially your technology, to keep up with the way things

10:04:32 can move these days, with cell phones and blackberries and

10:04:35 twitters and everything else.

10:04:37 And again, the staff and organization is one of the other

10:04:40 areas that they wanted to look at.

10:04:42 One of the things that came up early on in the meaning, they

10:04:46 wanted to make sure this committee stayed grounded and kept

10:04:49 their focus on what they were trying to achieve, so they

10:04:52 decided to adopt guiding principles and values that would,

10:04:57 as these changes and recommendations move forward, they

10:05:00 would serve as the core values and guide the effort overall.

10:05:03 The first item that they have A as a core value was

10:05:08 sustainability.

10:05:09 You can take a look, encourage stainable design, promote

10:05:14 sustainable energy and efficient design, urban areas over




10:05:19 green field, etcetera.

10:05:20 Now, I just returned with another colleague of my mine from

10:05:25 Washington, we were there for the HUD challenge grant, a

10:05:29 gentleman from the Brookings Institute was the keynote

10:05:32 speaker at the seminar.

10:05:34 His entire discussion was talking about moving forward in a

10:05:37 sustainable fashion.

10:05:38 That if cities and communities were not having

10:05:41 sustainability from everything that that means in terms of

10:05:45 economy, environment, business, everything, that you're

10:05:48 really not going to be very competitive as you're going

10:05:51 forward.

10:05:51 Not just in America but globally as well.

10:05:54 So the notion of having the three legs where you have the

10:05:58 economy, environment and social equity, all those things is

10:06:04 what makes you competitive in today's market.

10:06:07 He drove that point home throughout his entire speech.

10:06:10 This group is taking that same approach.

10:06:12 The other thing, that's what I wanted to talk about.

10:06:15 Affordability, costs of what it actually takes to get a

10:06:20 project moving and going forward, also make sure that it is

10:06:25 more efficient, less redundant, and more effective.

10:06:29 And to assure that the regulatory oversight is not so

10:06:32 burdensome that it really is getting in the way of allowing

10:06:36 things to happen in an efficient manner.




10:06:39 Again, the core value is livability.

10:06:45 Pointing out here, the focus on the unique strengths and

10:06:50 characteristics of neighborhoods.

10:06:52 Making sure whatever comes out of the recommendations in

10:06:55 this group, is that the entire city landscape is considered.

10:06:58 And all neighborhoods, business, residential, community.

10:07:05 Urban versus suburban environment.

10:07:07 Then of course safety.

10:07:10 This has everything to do with the public safety and making

10:07:15 sure that building structures are built in a fashion that

10:07:19 are going to be safe going forward.

10:07:20 The first thing that we did, when the media first started

10:07:29 out, everybody was trying to figure out exactly what we're,

10:07:33 how the group was going to move forward.

10:07:35 One of the gentleman says, you know, everybody always have

10:07:38 these big ideas on how the city can get better and what we

10:07:41 can do.

10:07:42 So we kind of grabbed on to that.

10:07:44 The first assignment that the group had was write up three

10:07:47 or five big ideas, submit them back to us.

10:07:51 About what they thought was could be improved upon, what was

10:07:54 process, organization, technology, code, what have you.

10:08:00 And they came back and I ended up with 46 pages of

10:08:05 information from big ideas covering things from city

10:08:08 staffing and training consolidated land development code,




10:08:15 creating a one stop shop, creating a Riverfront overlay

10:08:18 district.

10:08:21 Develop standard operating procedures.

10:08:23 And on and on.

10:08:25 We ended up organizing them into focus areas, and ended up

10:08:30 being about 30 of those focus areas.

10:08:33 Then we took the actual recommendations that they had and

10:08:36 grouped them accordingly.

10:08:38 And what we discovered is that many of those statements

10:08:41 really started to develop an action plan, the micro steps

10:08:45 you could start to take to achieve that focus area goal.

10:08:48 The group then went through and ranked them, in order of

10:08:53 immediate action, midterm, short-term and long-term.

10:08:56 Unfortunately, they wanted to have everything in the

10:09:02 immediate action that was not really doable.

10:09:06 But we did capture a couple of things and we're going,

10:09:12 coming up with an action plan that will move us forward from

10:09:14 there.

10:09:15 Some of the first recommendations that came from that, and

10:09:19 ones that were, as I said before, was the immediate

10:09:25 recommendations, consolidate the land development

10:09:28 regulations into a single code.

10:09:32 That we are already doing.

10:09:35 Basically that's taking -- because right now you have a land

10:09:39 development code, you have chapter 27, chapters 22, 25, 23,




10:09:44 20.5, 19, they're all over in a dozen or so codes, just to

10:09:49 bring everything that has to do with development into a

10:09:53 single consolidated code.

10:09:55 The first step, we're not making any substantive or

10:09:58 dimensional or requisite type changes to any of those

10:10:01 documents or those codes.

10:10:03 We are merely bringing them all into the same document.

10:10:06 That will probably be the first item that comes before you.

10:10:08 You'll be able to see how that brings everything into a

10:10:11 single place, simply so a person trying to do business in

10:10:14 the City of Tampa can go to a single place, have everything

10:10:17 that they are, he or she needs to know about what they have

10:10:20 to do in a single book.

10:10:22 It seems like a very simple thing.

10:10:23 But for some reason that alluded us for quite sometime.

10:10:28 The other things we're working on and they had asked early

10:10:31 on, was create an enhanced web site.

10:10:34 Basically what that was is to allow for more online

10:10:37 activity, more online information gathering, and it's

10:10:42 upgrade to our current system because it has some

10:10:45 shortcomings.

10:10:46 Not as interactive as we would like it, that would

10:10:49 accommodate people doing much more work from their computers

10:10:52 at home or from their blackberries or in the field as

10:10:55 they're moving around.




10:10:56 So the web site, we're going to try to do that that's one of

10:10:59 the things we're working on.

10:11:01 I've met with a gentlemen who is doing some web site

10:11:04 enhancements with the Tampa Hillsborough economic

10:11:06 development corporation, Mr. Barrios, and myself met with

10:11:09 him.

10:11:10 He's getting back.

10:11:11 He's going to have a report on some of their early

10:11:14 suggestions are.

10:11:14 So that will be another item coming forward.

10:11:16 The third, actually the highest ranked item that came

10:11:21 forward was enhancing our electronic permitting system.

10:11:24 Our system is old, it's been in existence over 20 years.

10:11:27 And it's a testament that sometime projects can actually get

10:11:31 through it in a fashion as it does.

10:11:35 We are really focusing on coming up with permitting system

10:11:38 that will be streamlined, will allow departments to

10:11:41 communicate with each other much more effectively, easier

10:11:44 and electron quickly as well as lying applicants to follow

10:11:48 their projects faster and smoother and more seamlessly.

10:11:52 The ongoing efforts that we're doing, continuing the

10:11:55 conversations with the meetings, with the group.

10:11:58 And we're further identifying additional opportunities for

10:12:05 code changes or process changes or procedural changes and

10:12:08 policies, as well as staffing organizations.




10:12:10 Those are the things we're discussing now.

10:12:12 From that, we will eventually formulate what those

10:12:16 recommendations are.

10:12:17 Those recommendations will hopefully be done by the end of

10:12:20 the year, at the latest, the very first part of 2012.

10:12:24 That will be the recommendations that this committee will

10:12:26 formally make to the mayor and ultimately come in front of

10:12:29 this group for some of the changes in code revision that is

10:12:32 would have to take place.

10:12:33 And that, like I say, will assemble into a final report on

10:12:37 the activity that what has happened and I'm going into a

10:12:40 single document, so you'll be able to see the entire effort

10:12:44 in one place.

10:12:45 Hopefully, the first, going back to the consolidated land

10:12:50 development reservations, Will be coming, be made available

10:12:54 sometime towards the middle or end of November.

10:12:56 It's just a matter of finding time to write it and pull it

10:13:00 all together.

10:13:01 This has been quite a, an endeavor.

10:13:08 My staff and the other city departments have worked very

10:13:12 hard, been cooperative.

10:13:14 Everybody coming to the table.

10:13:16 If you attend one of these meetings, you'd see participants

10:13:19 from every city department.

10:13:21 Water, sewer, police, fire, code enforcement, legal




10:13:26 department, obviously land development and planning.

10:13:29 Because everybody is pulling in the same direction, trying

10:13:32 to make and come up with the best product for the entire

10:13:35 City of Tampa.

10:13:35 Not just some isolated segment.

10:13:38 I'll entertain any questions that you have.

10:13:43 >>MARY MULHERN: Council, I'd like to suggest that we see if

10:13:49 there's anyone here from the public who wishes to speak in

10:13:52 there are 30 minutes afforded for public comment can at our

10:13:55 workshop.

10:13:57 Unless -- Ms. Cole, are you going to speak too?

10:14:00 After we hear from Ms. Cole.

10:14:02 That way when Council's questions will have heard from

10:14:06 anyone who's interested and we can ask our questions of

10:14:14 staff and or, you know, perhaps people in the public, so

10:14:19 that we don't, we don't have to go through this process of

10:14:24 the questions and answers twice.

10:14:26 Councilwoman Montelione?

10:14:30 >>LISA MONTELIONE: In the motion to bring this workshop

10:14:32 forward, there were actually three individuals who were

10:14:34 advised to speak as part of the presentation.

10:14:36 That would be Jennifer Dorfeld, a member of the committee,

10:14:41 and I don't see the other two -- Richard Formica, there he

10:14:45 is.

10:14:46 And Mrs. Vizzi was also invited.




10:14:50 She informed me she might have some scheduling conflict.

10:14:53 But I think Mr. Warfield is here to deliver her comments.

10:14:57 >>MARY MULHERN: Was that part of the motion?

10:15:01 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Yes.

10:15:01 >>MARY MULHERN: Let's hear from staff.

10:15:03 Then those individuals and then any other public comments.

10:15:06 And I want us to reserve our questions.

10:15:08 Thanks.

10:15:09 >> Good morning, Julia Cole, legal department.

10:15:13 I had some handouts.

10:15:14 I've been asked to give a brief presentation on the recently

10:15:28 adopted community planning, people have been talking about.

10:15:34 And that is how it's built, 7207.

10:15:37 And that went into effect, was adopted in the session that

10:15:42 went into effect in the July -- can't give you the exact

10:15:46 date.

10:15:46 But I thought in talking about this community planning act

10:15:51 and what it means, because as I said, there's a lot of talk

10:15:54 about it.

10:15:54 There's been a lot of hand wringing, a lot of different

10:15:59 surveys, the different organizations have done, trying to

10:16:02 explain what it is.

10:16:03 I thought it might be important to spend about just two

10:16:06 minutes talking about what a comprehensive plan is.

10:16:09 And why this act has meaning to local governments.




10:16:13 You hear about the comprehensive plan all the time.

10:16:16 Tampa has one.

10:16:17 All local governments have one because they were obligated

10:16:20 in the '80s to come forward and adopt what we call our

10:16:25 comprehensive plan and that was a Florida statutory mandate.

10:16:29 There are different iterations of it over the years, but, in

10:16:32 approximately 1989, Florida legislature adopted chapter 163

10:16:37 of the Florida Statutes, which obligated local governments

10:16:40 to come up with a comprehensive plan, a new comprehensive

10:16:44 plans were obligated to meet certain standards.

10:16:47 Certain statutory standards.

10:16:48 In addition, those comprehensive plans were required to be

10:16:52 reviewed by the state for compliance with the state

10:16:55 comprehensive plan.

10:16:56 What became really important about that is, the legal status

10:17:01 of a comprehensive plan, which is why does it matter to the

10:17:04 local government that you have this comprehensive plan?

10:17:06 Well, it matters for a variety of reasons, but I think one

10:17:10 that City Council sees most often is when you're going

10:17:13 through your rezoning process or special use permit process

10:17:17 or you're going through the process of adopting a future

10:17:20 land use map amendment, we come to you and we say, the legal

10:17:24 department from staff is why it's consistent with the

10:17:27 comprehensive plan, inconsistent with the comprehensive

10:17:30 plan, this is why it meets the objective and policies within




10:17:34 the comprehensive plan, and it is that comprehensive plan

10:17:36 that you measure your land use decisions against.

10:17:39 The legal status of the comprehensive plan says development

10:17:45 order, that means from a building permit are to special use

10:17:48 permit, a variance, a rezoning, can be adopted or approved

10:17:53 by a local government unless it is in compliance with and

10:17:57 the objective of the comprehensive plan.

10:18:00 So it's really good to talk about this, but there is still

10:18:03 legal meaning into what your comprehensive plan says, and

10:18:06 how it is implemented.

10:18:08 In addition, your land development regulations, when you

10:18:10 bring those forward, they come forward with you at the

10:18:13 recommendation of the Planning Commission saying that those

10:18:15 land development regulations meet the comprehensive plan or

10:18:18 consistent with the comprehensive plan.

10:18:24 Why this community plannings act was so significant answer

10:18:27 why there's been so much hubbub about it.

10:18:30 Two parts.

10:18:30 One is procedural and one is substantive.

10:18:32 From a procedural perspective, and I can list all the

10:18:36 things.

10:18:37 The things I have handed out, are handouts, what was the

10:18:42 department of community affairs, now the department of

10:18:44 economic opportunity.

10:18:45 They've kind of done some explanation of the plan.




10:18:51 Dozens and dozens of different explanations, if you go on

10:18:54 internet, you can Google it and you will find dozens of

10:18:57 surveys and explanations.

10:18:59 I just actually going through them thought this was most

10:19:03 simplistic, easiest to understand, plus, it's a little any,

10:19:07 so people had had -- have had a little time to digest this.

10:19:12 What is so significant about this is two things.

10:19:14 The first thing procedurally.

10:19:16 The state oversight of your comprehensive plan and all the

10:19:20 comprehensive plans within the state of Florida have been

10:19:23 severely cut back.

10:19:24 Meaning when you go to adopt a comprehensive plan amendment,

10:19:29 when you go to update your comprehensive plan as you're

10:19:32 obligated to do under Florida Statutes, the state's review

10:19:36 of that is no longer measured against a state comprehensive

10:19:39 plan, and it is also only looking at whether or not there's

10:19:43 a state interest in what you've put in your comprehensive

10:19:46 plan.

10:19:46 That cuts two ways.

10:19:49 First of all, it cuts in the way of, it's legal with

10:19:53 governments with a lot more control over what they put in

10:19:55 their comprehensive plan, so long as they meet the state

10:19:58 statutory requirements.

10:19:59 But it also kind of takes away that shield, that shield of

10:20:03 knowing that when you adopt a comprehensive plan amendments,




10:20:07 when you adopt any updates, that the state -- you don't have

10:20:12 anybody telling you you've met the requirements.

10:20:16 What you have is your measuring it, your staff is measuring

10:20:20 it against the state requirements.

10:20:22 And advising you we believe it meets the state statutory

10:20:25 requirements.

10:20:26 I think that's one of the biggest issues.

10:20:28 And biggest pluses and minuses is that you have more

10:20:31 control.

10:20:32 You also lose that shield.

10:20:34 The other issues that I think are really important are what

10:20:39 has been taken -- put into chapter 163 and the statutory has

10:20:46 been taken out.

10:20:47 One of the things the state would pressure our comprehensive

10:20:49 plan against were, maybe you've heard of nine J five.

10:20:54 That was the state rule.

10:20:55 Those are state rules that say here's what all of this stuff

10:20:58 means.

10:20:58 And that's what the state was reviewing it again.

10:21:01 That rule making, that flag administrative code nine J five

10:21:06 has been put into state statute.

10:21:07 So that means when we are looking at a comprehensive plan

10:21:11 amendment and we're looking at whether or not it meets the

10:21:13 state requirements, it's all in the statute now.

10:21:16 Which there's some benefit to that.




10:21:18 We know that it means kind of, we're hoping we get it right,

10:21:22 but we do have our turn to make sure we are getting it

10:21:26 right.

10:21:27 They've added some definitions and things in there that give

10:21:30 us a little more guidance.

10:21:31 But then there are the things that have been removed I think

10:21:33 are even more interesting.

10:21:35 That is, you are required, were required to have certain

10:21:39 things in your comprehensive plan.

10:21:42 Concurrency, transportation concurrency being one of the

10:21:44 biggest items that we think of.

10:21:46 But there's also public school concurrency, parks and

10:21:48 recreation concurrency, those were considered obligations of

10:21:53 your comprehensive plan.

10:21:54 Now, one might say, one might ask, and I'm always asking

10:21:58 this question.

10:21:59 What this -- what in the world the is concurrency?

10:22:03 What that means, concurrency means is that in order to go

10:22:06 forward with the development, the public facilities must be

10:22:09 in place prior to that development being approved.

10:22:12 Now, in Tampa, a lot of our transportation concurrency

10:22:17 exception area a long time.

10:22:19 So that hasn't been an issue.

10:22:20 We do have part of the city that are concurrency area.

10:22:24 But those level of service standards that technical term are




10:22:27 no longer a requirement of your comprehensive plan.

10:22:30 So if you go back to the legal status and what does it mean,

10:22:33 you're flow longer measuring your development approvals

10:22:35 against those concurrency standards, or at least you're not

10:22:38 required to any more.

10:22:39 So, you can go through the process and every local

10:22:44 government now has this option of saying, you want to have

10:22:47 concurrency or we don't have to have concurrency.

10:22:50 How it used to work, concurrency was an obligation, you just

10:22:54 had to meet a couple standards.

10:22:56 If you wanted to say, for example, be an exception area, as

10:22:59 the City of Tampa was, you had to actually jump through a

10:23:01 lot of hoops and meet a lot of requirements in order to be a

10:23:05 concurrency exception area.

10:23:07 Now it's flipped the opposite direction.

10:23:08 To be a concurrency exception area, not have concurrency,

10:23:12 you don't have to do anything.

10:23:14 In order to have concurrency on the items, you actually have

10:23:17 to show that you meet a significant number of standards

10:23:20 within your comprehensive plan in order to show that you can

10:23:24 have concurrency.

10:23:26 So that's really flipping on its head what we used to be

10:23:29 required to do versus what we don't have to do.

10:23:31 Again, it sounds like oh, wow, they've really taken away

10:23:37 from stuff from us.




10:23:38 But I also think there's some good opportunities for local

10:23:41 governments to be able to come up with their own strategies

10:23:44 as to how they want to utilize their comprehensive plan.

10:23:47 So as I said, it kind of cuts both ways.

10:23:50 There's a number of other changes that occurred.

10:23:52 We don't have a lot of time and I'm not sure they're the

10:23:55 items you so much care about.

10:23:57 I think there's only a couple other ones that you might want

10:24:00 to just know about.

10:24:01 One is what we called a proportionate fair share

10:24:08 calculation.

10:24:08 You all don't hear a lot about that.

10:24:10 Usually what happens when items come to you, the question of

10:24:13 how much money you have to pay in mitigation for a

10:24:16 transportation issue, that's resolved through engineers.

10:24:20 But that is, the way that formula has to be called, there's

10:24:24 a statutory change, is, there is a different way to look at

10:24:28 it.

10:24:28 And that's something that our transportation engineers and a

10:24:31 lot of the transportation engineers all over the state of

10:24:34 Florida are discussing, you no longer have to have your five

10:24:39 year scheduled capital improvements to be financially

10:24:42 feasible.

10:24:42 But why you have to update it every year.

10:24:44 That's something we bring to you every year.




10:24:47 We did something that's changed a little bit.

10:24:49 The prior, the things that need to be implemented for DRI

10:24:57 has changed.

10:24:58 You see a lot, so I'm not going to go into a lot of detail.

10:25:03 One of the things I thought very interesting and not

10:25:05 something we state here, but has been a conversation in

10:25:08 other jurisdictions and you all may remember hometown

10:25:11 democracy.

10:25:11 There's a prohibition now on local referendum for

10:25:14 development orders and plan amendments.

10:25:17 So I think that was probably to deal with that issues.

10:25:19 There are some other jurisdictions even posted here that

10:25:22 required a referendum for comp plan amendments.

10:25:25 That's now prohibited by Florida Statute.

10:25:27 Now, just so you know time-wise where we are and what we're

10:25:30 doing.

10:25:31 We have the City of Tampa itself has been leading -- meeting

10:25:35 with the Planning Commission.

10:25:36 And the Planning Commission, you hear what they are.

10:25:38 What they serve as in terms of statutory requirements, they

10:25:41 serve as our local planning agency and every local

10:25:45 government is required to have a local planning agency that

10:25:48 service in the in adopting comprehensive plans, amendments

10:25:53 to the comprehensive plans and processing things, related to

10:25:55 the comprehensive plan.




10:25:56 The plan is your local planning agency.

10:26:00 They are the local planning agency for Hillsborough County,

10:26:03 plant city and city of Temple Terrace.

10:26:06 We have been meeting with the Planning Commission staff,

10:26:08 City of Tampa, Hillsborough County staff, Plant City staff,

10:26:12 Temple Terrace staff, for us to go over all this.

10:26:15 Because this is a lot of changes.

10:26:16 It took us some time to figure out what does this all mean?

10:26:20 Then also to look procedurally what does it mean?

10:26:23 Because I didn't go into other issues with the procedural

10:26:27 changes, but one of the big changes is that you no longer

10:26:29 are limited to two cycles a year to do large economy of

10:26:34 comprehensive plan changes.

10:26:35 You can really have comprehensive plan changes come to you

10:26:39 week in and week out, but from a procedural perspective,

10:26:41 that doesn't make a lot of sense.

10:26:43 It would not give us context as to what's happening.

10:26:47 So we have been working with the Planning Commission to both

10:26:50 come up with a procedures manual as to when comprehensive

10:26:52 plan amendments will be processed, how they'll be processed.

10:26:56 Notice requirements, because that's how, back in our hands

10:27:00 to make those calls.

10:27:01 So we have been working with them on procedures.

10:27:03 We also been going through the comprehensive plan, filling

10:27:07 through what's within this house bill and trying to identify




10:27:10 issues.

10:27:10 So from a time being perspective, right now your

10:27:15 comprehensive plan is legally sufficient.

10:27:16 We're Comfortable we can proceed forward.

10:27:19 There's nothing within our comprehensive plan that fails to

10:27:21 meet this new community planning act.

10:27:23 We will be required at some point to come forward with some

10:27:27 changes.

10:27:27 Those changes may be as simple as just scrivener's errors,

10:27:33 to remove old references and provisions of the 163 that are

10:27:37 no longer valid.

10:27:39 There may just be conflicts.

10:27:41 Little things.

10:27:42 But there's going to be some larger policy decisions that

10:27:45 we're all going to have to make representing to concurrency,

10:27:48 relating to public school concurrency, relating to some of

10:27:51 these other issues.

10:27:52 And those Will be coming forward to you.

10:27:54 You're not obligated to make any of those changes until you

10:27:57 are obligated to update your comprehensive plan under

10:28:01 statute, which I believe is somewhere around 2016.

10:28:04 So we have time.

10:28:05 That's not something we have to do tomorrow.

10:28:07 There are portions of the statute that are implementable

10:28:11 today, meaning it doesn't matter what we have on the books,




10:28:14 there's now a preemption of those issues.

10:28:16 I will give you an examples, proportionate fair share

10:28:20 formula there, there is something we do need to look in in

10:28:23 terms of that proportionate share formula and whether or not

10:28:27 we need to change the way we are handling those things.

10:28:30 There are other portions that are implementable at

10:28:32 development orders.

10:28:33 But that doesn't obligate you to change your comprehensive

10:28:36 plan to implement those.

10:28:37 Those are simply things we need to be aware of as staff and

10:28:41 bring tower attention.

10:28:43 I think the intent is, first thing, bring back to you a

10:28:46 procedures manual, because I think that's going to be the

10:28:49 most critical thing to deal with up front, processing

10:28:53 comprehensive plan amendments, what's the time frames,

10:28:57 notice requirements, how those are going to be put into your

10:29:00 process, put into the Planning Commission and those

10:29:03 processes.

10:29:04 That's probably the first thing we'll bring to you.

10:29:06 After that, as we get to critical dates, we'll be coming

10:29:09 back to you, probably in a workshop format to seek some

10:29:12 policy direction as to how we want to move forward with some

10:29:14 of these other issues.

10:29:16 I tried to keep it brief.

10:29:17 There is a lot of stuff in there.




10:29:18 I think some of the documentation I gave you will give you

10:29:21 greater understanding.

10:29:23 And I can provide, if anybody wants more information, I have

10:29:26 about a file about this thick full of different information

10:29:29 and different surveys and different, what people think this

10:29:33 means.

10:29:34 And we're still all talking about what we think it means,

10:29:37 but I think we're starting to boil it down.

10:29:39 I'm available for any questions.

10:29:41 Otherwise, I'll let the other speakers go ahead.

10:29:51 >>MARY MULHERN: And our next speaker, I believe, is Jennifer

10:29:56 Dorfeld?

10:29:58 Is that it for staff for now?

10:30:09 >> Good morning.

10:30:10 My comments will be brief.

10:30:11 I'm Jennifer Dorfeld.

10:30:13 I represent the Tampa Bay builders association.

10:30:15 The reason that I wanted to come to you today is to give you

10:30:19 a real brief summary of why I think it's important that the

10:30:22 mayor has put this task force together.

10:30:24 You may recall about three years ago, the builders

10:30:28 association worked with the City of Tampa on a fee increase

10:30:33 for permits.

10:30:34 One of the reasons why we supported that 30% fee increase in

10:30:38 a down economy is because we were promised better customer




10:30:42 service.

10:30:42 And I have to tell you that your staff is amazing.

10:30:45 That they have a huge, huge job when it comes to issuing you

10:30:50 permits.

10:30:51 And sometimes it can be very, very cumbersome.

10:30:55 So one of the things we talked about was ways to improve the

10:30:58 process through technology and transparency.

10:31:00 Three years later, I'm still waiting on an updated

10:31:04 transparent system to get a permit through the process.

10:31:07 And it has nothing to do with your staff.

10:31:09 Your staff has supported this all along.

10:31:12 It's just an example I give, or give to you of why it's

10:31:17 important to have this meeting.

10:31:18 Have this committee.

10:31:19 I can't tell you how many members of my association, and I

10:31:23 represent members in Hillsborough, Pasco and Pinellas

10:31:25 Counties.

10:31:26 They refuse to do business in the City of Tampa, which I

10:31:29 think is just very tragic.

10:31:30 Because of the confusion and the cumbersome process and the

10:31:35 expense involved with developing in our fair city.

10:31:38 So, I'll reserve any further comments, but I just wanted to

10:31:42 make sure that you were aware of the importance of this

10:31:44 committee.

10:31:45 We are doing some wonderful things.




10:31:47 One of the first meetings that we had was moving forward on

10:31:52 some recommendations to improve our technology that's

10:31:55 available to us.

10:31:56 So we're moving in the right direction.

10:31:58 I do want to make sure that you understand that our purpose

10:32:01 at this committee is not to eliminate regulations.

10:32:05 It's simply trying to find a balance to bring economic

10:32:09 competitiveness to the city.

10:32:11 Thank you.

10:32:12 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.

10:32:13 Are we going to hear from -- I see Mr. Formica, and -- don't

10:32:24 know if Ms. Vizzi is here.

10:32:28 >> I don't see her.

10:32:29 But I think that Mr. Johnson has her comments.

10:32:34 >> Good morning.

10:32:35 Richard Formica, Temple Crest neighborhood.

10:32:37 Before I begin my pitch, I'd like to say that the agenda

10:32:43 item with my name in it is not entirely correct.

10:32:45 I do attend T.H.A.N. meetings.

10:32:48 However, today, I'm here speaking as an individual resident

10:32:51 of Tampa.

10:32:53 Who's concerned about our environment.

10:32:55 Since retiring from business several years ago, I've had the

10:33:02 good fortunate and the time and willingness to attend a

10:33:06 variety of interesting workshops.




10:33:07 I then had the time and experience enabling me to write

10:33:13 about the workshops.

10:33:14 Some of the reports were sent to members of my neighborhood

10:33:17 association.

10:33:18 Some became part of T.H.A.N. meeting minutes.

10:33:21 And some were even sent to City Council members of the

10:33:25 previous administration.

10:33:26 If there are any frustrations I felt attending these

10:33:30 workshops, it was never -- I never saw any elected

10:33:33 representatives at any of them.

10:33:35 Nevertheless, I found the workshops about our environment

10:33:39 informative and in some cases alarming.

10:33:41 This is because Florida's environment is in jeopardy.

10:33:45 Florida's vulnerable to sea level rise and the increased

10:33:49 devastation hurricanes will then bring.

10:33:52 Florida's natural water supply is stretched to the limit.

10:33:56 Yet, this past legislative session saw some environment

10:34:02 protection laws changed to the worse.

10:34:04 And how about our urban forests?

10:34:07 The economic competitive committees' big ideas agenda

10:34:12 states, Tampa's tree canopy is healthy and one of the most

10:34:17 robust in the country.

10:34:19 Hence, the committee recommends easing the rules which now

10:34:22 protect our urban forest.

10:34:24 And urban forest ecological analysis conducted in 2006 and 7




10:34:30 found that while the city wide tree cover has increased

10:34:34 between 1996 and 2006, the cover appears to have only

10:34:39 returned to 1970's levels.

10:34:42 Is this good or bad?

10:34:44 The report does not say.

10:34:46 The report does state that the tree canopy covers only 29%

10:34:52 of the land surface in the city and the top three species of

10:34:57 the trees in the Tampa's urban forest were red and black

10:35:01 mangrove and Brazilian pepper.

10:35:04 None of these are protected trees.

10:35:07 >>MARY MULHERN: Mr. Formica, you know that, we're getting a

10:35:10 report next on the agenda.

10:35:11 Did you realize that, about the tree canopy?

10:35:14 >> Yes.

10:35:14 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.

10:35:15 So your comments, you can give them now or later.

10:35:20 But I was wondering if you might want to -- reserve those.

10:35:27 >> My opinion.

10:35:27 Okay.

10:35:29 As for the health of the tree canopy, as opposed to the

10:35:37 2006, 2007 report, we don't know the truth of the statement

10:35:42 that's in the competitive NTSB report big ideas.

10:35:46 That is why another tree analysis is in progress.

10:35:48 The city working with USF, UF and the county extension

10:35:52 service is conducting another study.




10:35:54 Which has a goal to develop a science obeyed publicly

10:36:00 supported financially responsible urban forest management

10:36:03 plan.

10:36:03 Until we know the health of our tree canopy, I strongly

10:36:07 recommend that no action be changed, be taken to change any

10:36:11 codes that make it easier to remove any trees.

10:36:14 Especially protected trees.

10:36:17 It has been my personal experience in the last year or two

10:36:21 that some of our protected trees that are allegedly being

10:36:25 taken down because of old age, are being done so illegally.

10:36:28 I know of two trees, of five taken down in my neighborhood

10:36:34 within the past 18 months that were taken down illegally.

10:36:38 Granted, some protected trees, like we mere humans, have

10:36:44 limited life span.

10:36:45 But proper permitting permits -- proper permitting ensures

10:36:50 replacement trees are planted, or money is added to the

10:36:54 city's tree fund.

10:36:57 For replacements.

10:36:58 Until the present study is completed and we have up-to-date

10:37:01 information about the health and breadth of the Tampa urban

10:37:05 tree forest, I again urge no changes be made to any city

10:37:09 ordinances that makes it easier to remove any trees.

10:37:12 One final note, what has been set up to this point does not

10:37:20 even consider the Texas, Phoenix palm decline phenomena.

10:37:28 This is a disease that affects palm trees like our Sabal




10:37:31 palm.

10:37:32 I'm scheduled to attend a workshop on this problem next

10:37:35 month.

10:37:36 And if you are interested in receiving information about

10:37:38 that workshop, just let me know.

10:37:40 I will send you a report.

10:37:42 In the meantime, for more information about Tampa's urban

10:37:46 tree management plan, I suggest visiting the Tampa Bay

10:37:50 watershed forest working group's web site.

10:37:52 It's a little complicated.

10:37:54 The address is a little complicated.

10:37:57 So I have a little handout for staff.

10:37:58 For Council.

10:38:00 Thank you very much.

10:38:24 >> Good morning, Council.

10:38:27 I'm Wofford Johnson, 4625 Longfellow Avenue in Tampa.

10:38:31 I won't try to put words in Margaret's mouth by any means.

10:38:38 But I have attended three of the last four ECC meetings.

10:38:43 So I have a couple observations I'd like to make.

10:38:45 One is that I think most people are very -- most people are

10:38:52 very much in favor of the proposed recommendations to

10:38:56 streamline the permitting process.

10:38:57 With help -- that will help everyone if it can be

10:39:03 accomplished.

10:39:03 One observation of concern is that the committee is made up




10:39:09 primarily of representatives from the construction industry.

10:39:12 And you can't help but wonder if maybe our problems,

10:39:19 economic problems, go beyond just that.

10:39:22 And I really think we should have an economic development

10:39:29 committee consisting of large and small business people.

10:39:34 And so that they can make, come into play from the

10:39:38 standpoint of making recommendations and so forth that would

10:39:41 help us to grow the city.

10:39:42 With that being said, it's my understanding that the, that

10:39:48 the housing market, our present housing market is -- there's

10:39:53 a large inventory of unsold homes.

10:39:56 Resulting in a fall in home prices, that have really hurt

10:40:01 many homeowners in the area.

10:40:02 In addition, the price of condos has significantly fallen,

10:40:07 due to what appears to be an overabundance of condos in the

10:40:12 area.

10:40:12 Also, it's reported that there's a large amount of vacate

10:40:17 offers space in the city.

10:40:18 The resulting drop in the overall property value base has

10:40:22 significantly reduced the tax base for the City of Tampa.

10:40:26 And impact all of us.

10:40:28 We must ask ourself, if our existing building codes are so

10:40:33 onerous and are such an impediment to the construction

10:40:38 segment of our community, how did all that happen?

10:40:41 We muscles ask ourselves, are we putting the proverbial cart




10:40:46 before the horse?

10:40:47 And it seems to me, as I said, that we should have an

10:40:50 economic committee, a broader obeyed economic committee,

10:40:54 working on these problems, consisting of large, small

10:40:58 business people, people who have had start-up businesses,

10:41:02 etcetera and can contribute to be trying to solve this

10:41:06 problem.

10:41:06 We know that mayor Buckhorn has been out beating the bushes,

10:41:11 looking for potential businesses to move to Tampa.

10:41:15 However, I believe that this economic committee could help

10:41:18 in that process.

10:41:19 Clearly, if a large company is looking at the City of Tampa

10:41:25 to relocate or to start a business, we should make sure that

10:41:30 their business needs, our building needs can be met on a

10:41:35 prompt and fast-track basis.

10:41:37 However, getting them there will require more than just a

10:41:40 fast track permitting process.

10:41:41 Our area has much to offer.

10:41:44 With the weather, good schools, safe environment, a

10:41:48 knowledgeable workforce, no state income tax, and a right to

10:41:52 work state, and good, high quality neighborhoods.

10:41:56 Let's sell that.

10:41:57 Thank you.

10:41:59 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.

10:42:00 If there's anyone from the public who wishes to speak on




10:42:05 this item, if you could stand and line up so we can see how

10:42:12 many people are wishing to speak on this.

10:42:17 If you could stand and come over here.

10:42:20 Unless you're unable to stand, that's fine.

10:42:23 If you can't stand up, please come and sit in the front row

10:42:25 so that we can expedite hearing from everyone who's here

10:42:30 wishing to speak on this.

10:42:32 Mr. Tillou?

10:42:38 >> Yes.

10:42:38 I thought that was a very good presentation on the economic

10:42:44 DNA because it set forward, worked very well.

10:42:49 That on the one hand you have to worry about sustainability,

10:42:53 but what are you sustaining so you have livability too?

10:42:56 And then the better you approach these, you have problems

10:43:00 with your economic competitiveness against places that may

10:43:04 be -- maybe don't address these things.

10:43:07 But there are various props that all of this rests on.

10:43:12 And the first one was addressing the ceremonial activities,

10:43:19 item 2.

10:43:20 Agricultural is very important.

10:43:21 And one of the things I've noticed is that Florida, which

10:43:26 has actually a lot of agricultural, seems to discuss it less

10:43:30 than say Maryland, that has next to none.

10:43:33 So, that's a direction that's got to be stressed a hot more.

10:43:36 Because that's a very big part of sustainability.




10:43:41 One of the problems, another dimension of sustainability is

10:43:47 transportation.

10:43:48 I work with alternative forms of transportation through my

10:43:56 engineering, and when the petroleum runs out, and there's a

10:44:06 zinger thrown into it about all these oil sands in Alberta

10:44:10 that could possibly tip over the Gulf stream.

10:44:14 And that's not quantified.

10:44:16 So, we come to another very important part of this.

10:44:19 As you address these objectives, which are very valid

10:44:23 objectives, you continually have to quantify, which is to

10:44:27 say you have to bring additional disciplines online.

10:44:32 A quantification is very much a part of engineering.

10:44:34 Attorneys, for instance, are very good with lots and lots of

10:44:41 words, but what you need here is quantification and the

10:44:44 underrepresentation of engineers in this process is a

10:44:49 glaring flaw of it.

10:44:50 With respect to biofuels, there's potential for about a

10:44:56 quarter of the fossil fuel that's there now.

10:44:59 So what does this mean?

10:45:01 Well, you need to increase efficiency by a factor of two,

10:45:05 which is something hybrids that engineers have given out and

10:45:08 are not paid much attention to.

10:45:10 Especially for instance in purchasing here.

10:45:13 The purchasing, municipal vehicles, very rarely addresses

10:45:17 this, but then instead of being able to provide for a




10:45:22 quarter of your transportation as personal vehicles, you can

10:45:26 provide for half.

10:45:27 And using plug-in hybrids, which brings you to how you're

10:45:32 going to generate that electricity, which again is an area

10:45:35 for potential employment, that all is a big part of this

10:45:42 equation.

10:45:43 Well, anyway, I can get to my class now.

10:45:47 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.

10:45:55 >> I'm Ashley, I've been camping out on the sidewalk for the

10:46:04 last 17 days.

10:46:07 >>MARY MULHERN: Can you give us your full name?

10:46:08 >> Ashley Perry.

10:46:14 I've been camping out on the sidewalk for the last 17 days.

10:46:17 And I'm kind of amazed that what you guys are discussing in

10:46:20 here is exactly what we are all trying to reach out there.

10:46:24 It is so huge, this comprehensive plan, that's what we're

10:46:33 working on.

10:46:34 It's in language that people can understand.

10:46:35 And we have got laptops running on car batteries right now.

10:46:43 We have got people working on solar powered washing

10:46:46 machines.

10:46:47 If we can do that, if we can have those called plug and

10:46:52 play, I don't know if you've heard of these.

10:46:54 But plug and play zones are absolutely amazing, which is why

10:46:58 I think it is so important to allow us our freedom to




10:47:01 assemble and bring all of these great ideas together in

10:47:04 language that people can actually understand and get behind.

10:47:08 Because T.H.A.N. meetings, USC meetings, like that's

10:47:15 fantastic and I know that it's out there and that other

10:47:17 people are working on it, 2016 is so far away, you know,

10:47:22 what we can do right now is make sure that the people that

10:47:26 are coming in, make sure that we have got 100 people

10:47:30 standing in front of a tree going, you know, let's not cut

10:47:33 this one down.

10:47:34 You know?

10:47:34 Grassroots Tampa, right here.

10:47:39 We're all right here and we're all focusing on the same

10:47:42 issues.

10:47:43 I am begging you to please come out and bring these

10:47:45 fantastic ideas and these same point that everyone is making

10:47:49 about sustainability, our economy, help us.

10:47:53 You know.

10:47:54 Our group just laughs because the cops were out there

10:47:59 getting our, hassle us off the sidewalk, which is where it

10:48:03 has to be right now.

10:48:04 You know?

10:48:04 But, I don't know.

10:48:06 I don't know.

10:48:08 We're working on it.

10:48:09 We're working on these same things.




10:48:11 And we need help from you guys, from you guys that can

10:48:14 actually implement it.

10:48:15 Please, I'm begging.

10:48:18 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.

10:48:19 Is there anyone else who wishes to speak on this agenda

10:48:24 item?

10:48:24 Council, Councilwoman Montelione -- Councilmember Cohen?

10:48:34 >>HARRY COHEN: I just had one question.

10:48:35 And it's really to anybody here that's part of the committee

10:48:39 or programs to Mr. Snelling.

10:48:41 A lot of the things that were discussed are things that are

10:48:48 common to other cities and other municipalities.

10:48:50 We're not the first city to struggle with trying to expedite

10:48:54 our permit system.

10:48:55 We're not the first city to struggle with how to pass a tree

10:49:00 ordinance that balances environmental concerns with concerns

10:49:04 of the business community.

10:49:07 Is this committee actively soliciting ideas from other

10:49:11 communities or from the league of cities or the national

10:49:14 civic league to look, for examples we can follow from other

10:49:19 places that have already been through this process?

10:49:23 >> Again, Thom Snelling, growth management.

10:49:25 City staff has done that.

10:49:27 We have reached out to the municipalities that are closest

10:49:31 to us, Sarasota, Orlando, Gainesville, Tallahassee,




10:49:35 Jacksonville.

10:49:36 We have looked at their processes and how they are

10:49:40 organized.

10:49:41 And what you find is a spectrum.

10:49:43 And we are pulling the ones we think have the best practice

10:49:46 from that.

10:49:47 The committee members as well, as Jennifer said, they do

10:49:51 business around the entire bay area and many of them do it

10:49:54 around the state.

10:49:55 And they say, well, the way they do it here is that.

10:49:59 Earlier on, there was a whole group, whole bunch of

10:50:02 information from the Tampa Bay coalition, which grabbed the

10:50:07 best practices from Atlanta, Marietta and about half a dozen

10:50:12 other cities and saying this is how they do process, or how

10:50:16 they process applications.

10:50:17 These are the kinds of services they have.

10:50:19 So the short answer is yes, we're finding information.

10:50:21 We have no real pride of ownership.

10:50:23 If I can steal it from somebody where it works very well,

10:50:27 I'm going to do that.

10:50:28 And the economy does the same type of thing.

10:50:31 So we are looking everywhere we can for better ways of doing

10:50:35 things.

10:50:35 And the other thing is that we are a little bit behind on

10:50:38 the curve.




10:50:39 And we have a little catching up to do.

10:50:46 >> To answer Mr. Snelling's comments, I have my

10:50:50 competitiveness committee notebook with me.

10:50:52 And we have got the opportunities and solutions from the

10:50:56 city of Clearwater, and it throughs all the minutes from all

10:51:00 of their meetings from their task force that was convened to

10:51:04 just recently, so this is recent information, in July of

10:51:09 2011.

10:51:09 They were meeting to review their ordinances and codes.

10:51:13 And the Tampa Bay regional coalition, that Tom was referring

10:51:21 to, they even broke it down into specific recommendations

10:51:25 and language for us to look at as implementation

10:51:31 possibilities in the City of Tampa.

10:51:32 So, those are members, as it says in the title, regional

10:51:39 partners.

10:51:40 So, we have got different recommendations from all over.

10:51:45 When I attended the redevelopment conference last week, they

10:51:50 had a presentation from the city of Gainesville, who is

10:51:53 going through a redevelopment of a large parcel in Shands

10:51:58 hospital used to occupy.

10:51:59 And their code language was so startling to me that I asked

10:52:03 for that presentation to be forwarded.

10:52:05 I haven't received it in my e-mail yet, but I talked about

10:52:09 it at the last meeting, because one of the speakers spoke

10:52:13 about how complicated the language is and it's hard to read




10:52:17 and hard to understand.

10:52:19 Their language in their code, they're changing to simple

10:52:22 sentences, small words.

10:52:24 So, there's not any of the legalese or the technical

10:52:29 terminology that sometimes is included in land development

10:52:32 codes.

10:52:32 And it was amazingly clear.

10:52:35 They substituted pictures a lot of times for the words,

10:52:39 where, talking about setbacks, 12-foot from this line.

10:52:43 And it actually showed it in a graph, so it was so startling

10:52:50 to see how clear and simplified the language was.

10:52:53 And when that presentation comes to me from Gainesville I'm

10:52:57 sharing it with everyone.

10:53:00 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilmember Cohen?

10:53:04 >>HARRY COHEN: I think that's clearly the right track.

10:53:06 I would suggest to you that I'd go outside the state of

10:53:09 Florida too.

10:53:10 And look at what really innovative cities all over the

10:53:14 country and actually all over the world might be doing to

10:53:19 sort of break out of traditional molds.

10:53:21 But yeah, that's it.

10:53:22 Thank you.

10:53:23 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilwoman Capin?

10:53:25 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.

10:53:26 There was one of the speakers that came forward, talked




10:53:30 about technology and transparency.

10:53:32 I think that's really goes hand in hand with, this one

10:53:36 sentence that is here on city staff training and

10:53:40 improvement.

10:53:41 Create a work environment that is committed to exception

10:53:45 extraordinary customer service.

10:53:46 A climate.

10:53:48 And then it goes on, climate mentality focused around

10:53:52 customer service, and goes on to say city staff is in the

10:53:55 business of serving customers and goes on to say, embrace

10:53:58 business and help find ways to make things happen instead of

10:54:01 finding ways to say no.

10:54:03 I think that is really, really important.

10:54:06 But I also believe that the technology and the transparency

10:54:10 part is essential to the customer service, because what you

10:54:14 may find is that because the customer finds it cumbersome,

10:54:24 the -- our staff is put in a, maybe put in a confrontational

10:54:37 environment, and that discourages, that's very discouraging.

10:54:42 So, again, I'm sorry to hear that we are behind on that.

10:54:50 I think as paramount.

10:54:52 We can change all the codes in the world, but if it is not

10:54:55 user friendly, and people feel comfortable with it, we are

10:55:01 going to -- you know, it will continue.

10:55:04 And I noticed we have a staff that is very informed, but it

10:55:09 does, when you come up against someone that is coming to you




10:55:13 and is frustrated, it can get -- it can get pretty

10:55:18 confrontational.

10:55:20 The other thing where it says finding ways to make things

10:55:25 happen instead of saying no, I'm going to tell you, one of

10:55:28 the things that I was in retail for 20 years, and one of the

10:55:34 rules that we had in our stores was, the word no was not

10:55:38 acceptable.

10:55:39 You could recommend.

10:55:42 You could say you're sorry, we don't have that item right

10:55:48 now, but you couldn't say no.

10:55:49 And I think that is a negative word and I really am happy to

10:55:56 see that, that is something that is being taken up.

10:55:59 Again, the technology and transparency is paramount to the

10:56:04 customer service.

10:56:06 So I applaud you and I hope that it comes forth to us with

10:56:11 those changes and how we're going to make that happen.

10:56:16 >> One of my managers, and I had a conversation, and the

10:56:22 chief said, you can make the technology changes and you can

10:56:24 make the reorganizations, but at the end of the day, it all

10:56:28 comes down to people.

10:56:29 And your observation is spot on on the -- because staff does

10:56:35 get frustrated.

10:56:36 Sometimes they want to help, they'll bump up against a code

10:56:39 that they have to kick them to a different process.

10:56:42 Or sometimes they're not trained as well as they could and




10:56:44 they get frustrated.

10:56:46 And that rubs offer.

10:56:47 It's a total remaining that we're looking to do, we're

10:56:51 looking under every single rock.

10:56:53 Staff, technology, transparency, people.

10:56:55 All of those types of things.

10:56:57 So, good comments.

10:56:59 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.

10:57:03 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilwoman Montelione?

10:57:05 >>LISA MONTELIONE: There is one -- well, a couple other

10:57:07 comments that I wanted to address.

10:57:09 And that is the neighborhoods have been invited to attend in

10:57:16 the form of T.H.A.N.

10:57:18 And we have added a time for the public to speak at these

10:57:23 workshops, at the economic competitiveness committee

10:57:26 workshop.

10:57:27 So anyone who is out there who has an interest, if you

10:57:30 wanted to attend, you can contact my office and I'll share

10:57:33 the schedule of meetings with you.

10:57:35 And you can have -- we do have time for public comment at

10:57:39 the competitiveness committee meetings.

10:57:41 And one of the things about the web site enhancements, is

10:57:46 actually going to be very helpful to those who want to find

10:57:49 out what's going on in their neighborhoods.

10:57:51 If you go to Hillsborough County's web site, it's very easy




10:57:55 to search any permit application or any zone being

10:58:00 application by plugging in just simply an address, into the

10:58:04 web site.

10:58:05 And it will come up.

10:58:07 We have something like that on our web site, but even for

10:58:10 professionals, it's really hard to navigate.

10:58:14 I shouldn't say hard.

10:58:16 It is extremely frustrating and difficult to navigate our

10:58:20 search engine on our web site.

10:58:22 So, that's something that I think will be a tremendous

10:58:26 enhancement for neighborhoods.

10:58:27 And Mr. Johnson had mentioned the economic development

10:58:31 committee.

10:58:32 And I have to thank Councilwoman Capin, because of her

10:58:37 leadership with the creative cultural committee for economic

10:58:42 development and Mr. Shelby knows it's something I've been

10:58:46 talking about for a long time and I'll be talking with the

10:58:49 mayor next week about, is developing an economic development

10:58:52 committee, because things have come up it with a economy

10:58:55 competitiveness committee that are maybe slightly outside of

10:59:00 what codes and permits we're talking about.

10:59:04 That reflect the construction or development community and

10:59:08 permitting, but there are permit for special events, there

10:59:13 are permits for all kinds of things that really need to be

10:59:16 looked at and how we can bring forth suggestions, economic




10:59:22 development workshops, we have had two or three of them

10:59:25 already.

10:59:25 And it's something that we do want to see fostered and get

10:59:29 the ideas and sources from the community.

10:59:32 So, it is something that is in formation, so it's just nice

10:59:38 to see that the neighborhoods as well are echoing those

10:59:42 sentiment.

10:59:43 I wish Ashley was still here because I'd like to find out

10:59:47 more about the plug and play zones.

10:59:48 I'm going to have to get in touch with her about that.

10:59:51 Thank you.

10:59:52 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilwoman Capin?

10:59:54 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yes.

10:59:54 A question.

10:59:55 Do we now scan, for instance, when someone comes in,

11:00:04 e-mails, anything pertaining to that, to the permit process,

11:00:10 they come in, because I understand that's one of the things

11:00:13 that's being done in the county, where e-mails are scanned.

11:00:18 You can look up everything pertaining to that project on

11:00:25 their web site.

11:00:26 And by simply scanning when someone comes in for a permit --

11:00:36 I'm just asking.

11:00:37 >> We have a limited ability to do that.

11:00:39 We do scan documents and we can move them back and forth

11:00:43 electronically with the client.




11:00:45 But what happens is, and this is the, our reference before

11:00:48 that I was talking to a gentleman about the web obeyed.

11:00:51 What happens is, a person cannot at 3:00 in the morning when

11:00:54 they can't sleep just go up there and start pulling down his

11:00:57 documents and looking at where his application is in the

11:01:01 process.

11:01:02 That's the goal, that's what we're trying to get to.

11:01:06 We have some limited ability, we rely on electronics as much

11:01:10 as possible.

11:01:11 We scan documents, make them available, we can send

11:01:14 documents back and forth to people.

11:01:17 As well as e-mails and such.

11:01:19 So we're able to do that a little bit.

11:01:21 Not as much as we want to though.

11:01:24 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Well, that looks like that's the goal

11:01:25 everybody's trying to get to.

11:01:27 I also want to comment on the economic development cultural

11:01:31 assets committee.

11:01:33 Councilwoman Montelione, that is exactly what that committee

11:01:36 is.

11:01:36 So, we are working on that, that is going to be the

11:01:41 report -- you weren't here last week, so one of the things

11:01:45 is, the first report to come to City Council will be

11:01:48 March 22nd.

11:01:50 It's a biannual report to, or recommendations to Council.




11:01:55 And that is exactly what will be taken up.

11:01:58 So thank you.

11:01:58 And thank you.

11:02:02 >> I just want to make one tiny little technical point.

11:02:06 The only recommendations -- there have been no

11:02:11 recommendations that have gone forward.

11:02:12 The only recommendations that we have acted on or that are

11:02:16 in place is the electronic permitting, improving the web

11:02:19 base and the consolidated code.

11:02:21 There have been no other changes forwarded about what we are

11:02:24 recommending to do with or without transportation,

11:02:27 stormwater, trees, nothing.

11:02:29 Those things certainly exist in the big ideas, people are

11:02:34 saying take a look at these things.

11:02:36 And we have incorporated the document, this document is

11:02:40 online.

11:02:41 You'll see a lot of things on here.

11:02:43 Many of these recommendations will go forward.

11:02:45 Some will not.

11:02:45 But this is the compendium of everything that people threw

11:02:49 out there.

11:02:50 We accepted everything, to make a good evaluation.

11:02:55 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you very much for this report.

11:02:59 And I just had a few comments, and -- a question for

11:03:07 Mr. Dorfeld, if she's still here.




11:03:15 I'll ask my question while you're coming up, because, and I

11:03:19 think you maybe alluded to and a lot of other people talked

11:03:24 about the same thing.

11:03:25 But what you said was the staff, there's not a problem with

11:03:28 the staff.

11:03:29 We have really good staff.

11:03:30 So, the problems are -- where do the problems lie and what

11:03:35 are you recommending that we do for, to solve those?

11:03:39 >> Yes, and I have to preface this by saying I don't pull

11:03:43 permits in the city, so I have to rely on the stories that I

11:03:46 get from my members.

11:03:47 But I'll give you a real good example.

11:03:49 You're absolutely right.

11:03:50 This is not something that is personnel or staff related.

11:03:55 You have to adhere to the rules that are given to you.

11:03:58 So that's the environment that they're in.

11:04:02 A real quick example of the process break-down is, I was

11:04:07 following something that whereas going on a couple of months

11:04:10 ago.

11:04:11 And this person wanted to just change their roof, but they

11:04:17 lived in Hyde Park.

11:04:18 And they wanted to just update their roof with the same

11:04:22 materials that they had on their roof, their existing roof.

11:04:30 There's no process for that person to do that

11:04:32 electronically.




11:04:33 They had to take off work, Monday through Friday, that's the

11:04:36 only time of day that this organization is open, so they had

11:04:40 to take off work.

11:04:41 They had to come downtown, pay for parking.

11:04:44 Was a very nice person, who was very accommodating for all

11:04:48 of three minutes to get approval to change their roof.

11:04:50 I later talked to the roofer, and that adds three to five

11:04:53 percent of the cost of a roof, just to do that process.

11:04:57 So that's very good example of why, you know, yes, well

11:05:02 intentioned rules, but in process, they just become too

11:05:07 cumbersome.

11:05:08 It really makes a difference, especially in this environment

11:05:10 when people may have the ability to update their homes or

11:05:14 businesses, and yet, they see the process and they shy away

11:05:18 from it.

11:05:18 That's all we're trying to do.

11:05:19 We're the trying to get people to stop shying away.

11:05:23 >>MARY MULHERN: So we need to update our technology.

11:05:25 >> Absolutely.

11:05:26 >>MARY MULHERN: I think we all realize that.

11:05:28 So that's good.

11:05:30 That's your number one easy thing to do.

11:05:33 >> Yes.

11:05:34 Thank you.

11:05:35 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.




11:05:35 We have, you know, over the last, I think three or four

11:05:42 years in the budget, allocated a lot more money to updating

11:05:46 all of our systems.

11:05:48 I don't know where we are in permitting, if that's one of

11:05:50 the ones that's kind of at the bottom of the list, but...

11:05:58 >> Through the work of this committee, that's the

11:06:01 possibility.

11:06:02 >>MARY MULHERN: That's at the top of the list.

11:06:03 That's great.

11:06:04 I think we heard that from everybody and we do need to catch

11:06:07 up.

11:06:08 I've been hearing this for my four years here, from

11:06:11 everybody.

11:06:12 Well, in Hillsborough County -- and they're already, you

11:06:17 know, probably not -- it's hard to keep up with technology

11:06:21 these days.

11:06:21 But we do need to do that.

11:06:23 I think, I do have to say though that, you know, the

11:06:29 problems that we have, they're not with the staff that we

11:06:34 have.

11:06:35 But the difficulty in reaching a person to talk to, a lot of

11:06:40 that has to did with the fact that we don't have the number

11:06:44 of staff that we used to.

11:06:46 And we had a much bigger land development department, where

11:06:51 you could actually get through to somebody.




11:06:53 And now, I mean, it is really bare bones.

11:06:57 So I mean, you know, I think we need to look at that it's

11:07:00 interesting when we talk about being, you know, this

11:07:05 committee's about economic competitiveness, but it's all

11:07:08 about the economy we're in, and it's difficult to give good

11:07:14 customer service if you don't have staff to provide that.

11:07:18 So, I think we hear about -- and we know because we deal

11:07:22 with the people at the top, the managers and the directors

11:07:26 here, who come here and have, you know, great ideas and are

11:07:30 really helpful.

11:07:30 And then we enlist the public in these task force and

11:07:35 committees who also have great ideas.

11:07:38 But if we don't have staff that can actually help the public

11:07:41 work their way through the process, that's a problem.

11:07:44 So, we all need to think about that.

11:07:47 And you know, this is my recommendation because we don't get

11:07:50 to make those decisions at Council, we get to write the

11:07:53 code, but I think the problems -- we can work and help on

11:07:58 adopting a better, more streamline code, but there's not

11:08:02 much we can do about staffing.

11:08:05 And what those priorities are for this, for this

11:08:10 administration, if we can get, you know, get the people in

11:08:14 there.

11:08:14 And I think it's the same thing with, we heard a lot of

11:08:18 people, and that was one, Thom, one of your first things you




11:08:22 talked about was sustainability.

11:08:24 Everyone here is talking about sustainability.

11:08:26 And we wanted to talk about the tree code before we even got

11:08:30 to that item on our agenda, for years now, Thom has been our

11:08:36 sustainability person.

11:08:37 So we don't really have the staff doing that.

11:08:40 So, you know, we're going to have to figure out ways if

11:08:43 we're going to fix these problems, to have the people to do

11:08:46 it and enact these things.

11:08:50 >> One of the things that will come out of this whole

11:08:52 effort, Councilwoman, chair, is that we'll identify better,

11:08:56 or more efficient ways to partner with various staff

11:09:00 members.

11:09:01 So some of those actual customer service efficiencies will

11:09:04 come out of this.

11:09:05 Might not be a whole lot more staffer.

11:09:07 You've already given the reasons for that.

11:09:09 But we think we can squeeze a little bit more blood out of

11:09:12 the turnip.

11:09:13 Blood out of the rock, whatever.

11:09:19 >>MARY MULHERN: You know, it's like you, where they just

11:09:22 keep giving you all those things that need to get done, they

11:09:26 just keep adding things to your job description.

11:09:30 That's a nice idea that you're going to have efficiency by

11:09:35 giving, you know, one person more to do.




11:09:38 But in reality -- how many phones can they answer at once?

11:09:44 I understand that.

11:09:45 I just think that -- if we look at the reality of the

11:09:49 numbers of people, staff that have been cut, and of course

11:09:54 there is less going on, especially in land development and

11:09:58 permitting because of the economy, there's less happening,

11:10:02 but, even before that, when we were in our really, really

11:10:05 busy time, we were seeing people, the number of people

11:10:10 employed.

11:10:11 -- that's just my thought about that.

11:10:13 I just want to thank Mr. Johnson for the great things he

11:10:20 brought up, because really, to be -- and I think we have

11:10:24 pretty much heard this from everybody.

11:10:26 To be economically competitive, we have to be somewhere

11:10:30 where people want to live and work.

11:10:32 And that's the bottom line, so you can do, you know, you

11:10:35 have to make it easy, easier, which I think was the focus of

11:10:41 this committee so far, for people to do the business here.

11:10:45 But for people to move here, stay here, keep jobs here and

11:10:52 live here, it's got to be a place where people want to live.

11:10:55 And that's where the sustainability -- that's where the

11:10:58 basics of having a livable city come in, so, I think

11:11:03 everybody had great things to say today.

11:11:05 And I'm thankful that, for your report and for Julia, for

11:11:10 your report.




11:11:11 That will be studying.

11:11:14 We have until 2016.

11:11:16 [ Laughter ]

11:11:18 >>MARY MULHERN: Any other questions?

11:11:21 Councilwoman Capin?

11:11:23 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Again, that's where the technology comes in.

11:11:26 And we all know that the technology, people are doing, three

11:11:31 people to application a few years back, it's taking one

11:11:35 person.

11:11:36 So again, in the right direction.

11:11:38 And, I want to say this.

11:11:39 The goal for Tampa is to become a 24/7 kind of place, where

11:11:48 you can do business at all hours.

11:11:51 And all kinds of activities 24 hours a day.

11:11:55 That is I think an achievable goal.

11:11:59 So, I appreciate everybody's hard work.

11:12:02 Thank you.

11:12:04 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.

11:12:04 We are now going to move on to discuss our five year action

11:12:12 plan.

11:12:12 And I think that's Mr. Snelling again.

11:12:23 >> I believe that might be Ms. Little.

11:12:31 >> That was my daughter calling.

11:12:33 >>MARY MULHERN: Do you need a break?

11:12:35 >> No.




11:12:35 I'm ready.

11:12:36 I think.

11:12:37 I'll take the grant programs PowerPoint please.

11:12:55 Good morning.

11:13:05 I'm here agenda item 6, growth management development

11:13:11 services.

11:13:14 The motion was made Councilwoman Capin and second by

11:13:17 Councilwoman Montelione.

11:13:19 The Council schedule workshop on this date to discuss the

11:13:21 five year action plan.

11:13:22 So, the presentation I've prepared is an overarching,

11:13:28 20,000, 30,000 -- foot look at the overall process and where

11:13:33 to go.

11:13:33 It's less about drilling down to very specific kinds of

11:13:38 things.

11:13:39 And we will work on items that Council chose.

11:13:42 The first thing I'd like to talk about is that what we have

11:13:48 the consolidated plan and one of the first distinctions I

11:13:51 would like to make is that you have a five year consolidated

11:13:54 action plan, or consolidated plan.

11:13:56 And that's why Council wanted to talk about this.

11:14:00 Because that is the comprehensive plan, if you will, of the

11:14:03 overall programs of these entitlement grants.

11:14:06 Each year, staff comes before you and says you've adopt your

11:14:11 consolidated plan.




11:14:13 Now each year coming back with an action plan to show how we

11:14:16 are going to achieve those goals we have identified in the

11:14:18 consolidated plan.

11:14:19 This happens to be the year you're going to do both.

11:14:22 Adopt a consolidated plan and also adopt the first of five

11:14:26 annual action plans to achieve the items in that goal.

11:14:31 Items in that plan.

11:14:34 Collaborative process.

11:14:35 First identify unified vision moving forward.

11:14:37 The funding sources that are included in the consolidated

11:14:45 plan are basically and primarily the entitlement programs.

11:14:49 These are the grants, the funding that we get from the

11:14:52 federal government and recurring entitlement year to year

11:14:55 basis.

11:14:56 The reason that you adopt the overarching consolidated plan

11:15:00 and then come back every year for the action plan to achieve

11:15:03 those goals is that those funding sources vary from year to

11:15:07 year to year.

11:15:10 It's not possible to say we are absolutely going to get X

11:15:12 amount of dollars from CDBG.

11:15:14 This past year we lost somewhere 12 to 16%, depending what

11:15:18 numbers you're looking at.

11:15:19 So, moving forward, we're not sure exactly how much more

11:15:22 money we are going to get on an annual basis from CDBG.

11:15:26 And the other the entitlement programs that are in here, the




11:15:29 community development block grant, the home investment

11:15:33 partnership program, which is this home.

11:15:35 Emergency shelter grants and the hope grants.

11:15:39 Also included in the consolidated plan is the annual report.

11:15:42 So, and performance report.

11:15:45 First grant, again, the community development block grant.

11:15:51 You know, the most important item on this slide is the

11:15:54 national objectives.

11:15:56 And in order to be eligible to take advantage and using

11:16:00 those CDBG dollars, whatever your proposal is, whatever

11:16:04 person comes and presents a program to the, requesting to be

11:16:09 funded, it has to meet the national objectives.

11:16:11 That's most important thing.

11:16:12 And I think that was one of the things that Council felt

11:16:16 would be better to communicate that a little bit more on the

11:16:19 front end of it.

11:16:20 So we will certainly endeavor to let people know you have to

11:16:23 meet these specific items.

11:16:24 They're very broad.

11:16:25 That's a lot of ability to meet those things, but you have

11:16:28 to be able to couch your proposal into these national

11:16:30 objectives going forward.

11:16:31 And again, it's for public service organizations, facility

11:16:39 improvements as well always housing assistance.

11:16:40 The home program, again, primarily -- not primary.




11:16:47 It is for low and moderate income families, new

11:16:50 rehabilitated or multifamily rental construction.

11:16:52 It's to build homes, sticks and mortar, bricks and mortar,

11:16:57 to build houses for low income persons.

11:16:59 Emergency shelter program, we talked about that as it

11:17:02 applied sometimes to some of the homeless situation.

11:17:05 We're able to house people on an emergency basis.

11:17:08 Again, that's an entitlement program that we receive.

11:17:11 And then Hope Well, which is the largest single entitlement

11:17:14 program that we get on a year -- it was this past year.

11:17:18 And the most important thing to remember here is that large

11:17:22 amount of money comes in, but Tampa serves as the

11:17:25 administrator for a four county area.

11:17:28 The counties are mentioned there, in Hillsborough, Hernando,

11:17:30 Pasco and Pinellas.

11:17:31 Again, the reason that is, is because Tampa unfortunately

11:17:34 has the highest incidents of aids in the four county area.

11:17:38 What we have another critical element of the overall plan is

11:17:47 citizen participation component.

11:17:52 That's require bid the code of federal regulations.

11:17:56 You can see where that is.

11:17:57 The way Tampa has accomplished this in the past and will

11:18:01 accomplish it moving forward, is a variety of public

11:18:03 hearing, this is informational.

11:18:05 There will be more.




11:18:07 We are planning on administering the survey city wide,

11:18:11 engage consultant to help us do that.

11:18:14 We'll actually craft the questions but have the consultant

11:18:16 help us with that.

11:18:17 We'll provide information on the city's web site.

11:18:20 Perhaps even CTTV could get that information out there.

11:18:23 As well as staff will attend local neighborhood meetings.

11:18:27 We have done that in the past successfully.

11:18:28 And we also provide technical assistant workshops.

11:18:31 To let people know the ends and outs and how you apply for a

11:18:37 program, how you access the funds.

11:18:38 Accessing the grant fund.

11:18:47 We partner with Publix and with non-profit agencies to

11:18:53 achieve the goal of creating a better community.

11:18:55 That's embedded in virtually everything that program, over

11:19:00 all CDBG, and the primary way of accessing the funds

11:19:04 available in these programs is through a competitive request

11:19:07 for proposal process.

11:19:10 And as you are turning in that request for proposal again,

11:19:13 keeping in mind that they must meet the national objectives.

11:19:18 And we are going to be available to make sure that

11:19:20 information is communicated up front, because some requests

11:19:23 had come through, they took the time to do that.

11:19:27 Staff reviewed it and at the end of the day, this doesn't

11:19:30 meet the national objective.




11:19:31 There was a lot of, you know, not happy feelings over that.

11:19:37 So, we're going to work on endeavoring that a little better.

11:19:41 The review, team that looks at these proposals as they come

11:19:44 in, they're citizen members.

11:19:46 This past year, was myself, I participated as growth

11:19:51 management development services representative.

11:19:53 We also had representatives from the housing community

11:19:55 development.

11:19:55 Some of them are sitting behind me.

11:19:57 The budget office, resident and finance as well as economic

11:20:00 and urban development.

11:20:02 They evaluated, we feel this allows for very transparent

11:20:05 review process.

11:20:06 And they'll go through, will rank proposals.

11:20:10 Those proposals then are looked at and ranked in some order.

11:20:16 Then we try to apply the money to the proposals that receive

11:20:19 the highest ranking.

11:20:20 The calendar.

11:20:26 This is where we received a lot of discussion.

11:20:29 Originally, for the technical assistance workshops, we had

11:20:33 it list downed for just January.

11:20:35 But we have decided, since the actual first submission

11:20:39 deadline doesn't fall until March and then again into may,

11:20:43 that we should really open up the technical assistant

11:20:47 workshop in terms of allowing more feedback, more




11:20:50 information exchange and more input from citizens as well as

11:20:53 Council to really craft consolidated plan that everybody is

11:20:56 in favor of and one that really embeds everybody's opinions

11:21:02 and desires into that plan.

11:21:04 Then you can see the deadlines for March and May for the

11:21:07 various entitlement program, CDBG home in March.

11:21:11 We hope for emergency shelter grants in May.

11:21:15 Then the first public hearing on the consolidated plan that

11:21:18 will come after some of these deadlines take place, will be

11:21:22 in May.

11:21:23 That will be your first opportunity to really start to drill

11:21:25 down and talk about what kinds of things you want to really

11:21:28 have in the consolidated plan.

11:21:30 You'll have a chance to react to the proposals that are in

11:21:33 front of you.

11:21:34 Then again, in June, you have another public hearing on the

11:21:41 consolidated and the action plan.

11:21:43 In June.

11:21:45 And then we have hopefully the adoption date in July.

11:21:47 And last year, we kind of jammed everything towards July a

11:21:54 little bit.

11:21:54 We're trying to stretch that out a little bit better this

11:21:56 year.

11:21:57 And this period, obviously covers from this fiscal year from

11:22:02 2012 through September of 2013.




11:22:04 This last slide, we put this on here because in the

11:22:13 consolidated plan, a lot of mention to some of the use of

11:22:17 the NSP funds and SHIP funds.

11:22:20 Hardest hit programs, as well as the CDBG R and other NSP

11:22:26 documents.

11:22:27 The difference is, these documents one time special program

11:22:30 kinds of awards of money.

11:22:33 They have very specific, even perhaps a little more specific

11:22:37 uses that you are, or criteria you have to use this money

11:22:41 for.

11:22:42 But what is important is that these are not entitlements.

11:22:45 They are competitive grants, you have to go after that and

11:22:48 there's no guarantee that you're going to get that money.

11:22:52 Whereas the entitlement grants, the first four I mentioned

11:22:55 in the beginning, those will reoccur as congress budgets

11:22:59 that money to go forward.

11:23:01 We see there is no real actual competitive nature to those

11:23:05 grants, whereas these other ones, they are a single time and

11:23:09 there's a competitive nature to that.

11:23:11 But a lot of what these programs, the programs that are

11:23:14 allowable under these various grants further the goals and

11:23:20 objectives of the consolidated plan, so that's why they show

11:23:23 up in there.

11:23:24 Not that they're completely embedded through the entitlement

11:23:27 process, but they are embedded in achieving some of the




11:23:30 goals and objectives.

11:23:31 So we like to try to keep them together and that was one of

11:23:34 the things that had come up before and perhaps will

11:23:37 distinguish a little better with different desire.

11:23:40 And that would be it.

11:23:45 I have my community development staff and budgets here and

11:23:51 urban and finance is here.

11:23:52 So we believe we will be able to answer every question you

11:23:55 have.

11:23:55 >> Is there anyone else from city staff that's going to

11:23:58 speak on the topic?

11:23:59 >> Unless you have questions, I don't believe so.

11:24:01 >> Why don't we ask if there's anyone from the public that

11:24:04 would like to speak on this topic?

11:24:06 We have public comment, three minutes, if there's anyone.

11:24:11 And I don't see anyone.

11:24:12 So I think now we can move on to Council questions.

11:24:15 Are there any Councilmembers that wish to ask questions or

11:24:21 comments?

11:24:22 Councilwoman Montelione?

11:24:25 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.

11:24:25 Chair Cohen.

11:24:28 This CDBG process was the subject of a special call session

11:24:36 not long ago, where we discussed a lot of the information

11:24:42 and really clarifying some of the information and I believe




11:24:45 it was Council decision as a whole to really clarify this

11:24:52 process for the next cycle.

11:24:55 Especially since we're looking at not only the one year, but

11:24:58 the five year.

11:24:59 So it's going to take probably several sessions for us to

11:25:04 wade through the information.

11:25:06 I know that since some of us were new here, we had quite a

11:25:11 bit of information to wade through.

11:25:16 What seemed to be the last minute.

11:25:18 I think a lot of us felt rushed through this, I know this is

11:25:24 only one of the five I have, through this information.

11:25:26 So it's quite a bit.

11:25:28 One of the things I talked about and if anyone attended the

11:25:35 session that was presented by the ULI folks who came and

11:25:40 gave the presentation on what we might look to do to improve

11:25:47 our city's livability and the economic conditions and to

11:25:51 move us forward, it was a precursor.

11:25:54 It was just a quick overview and we'll get into the more

11:25:58 specific plans, I'm sure we'll hear about it when Cathy

11:26:04 returns from Los Angeles.

11:26:05 But, they mentioned perhaps when we have our CDBG review and

11:26:14 suggestions come forward, that we look at putting more of

11:26:19 our funding applications into community and economic

11:26:24 development.

11:26:25 And if we review the schedule that we had in the last




11:26:33 application, we had three percent of our possible funding in

11:26:40 economic opportunities.

11:26:41 Three percent.

11:26:43 If we are going to really make a difference in our

11:26:50 communities when we're struggling with the CRA, with reduced

11:26:54 funding in our TIF funds and we're struggling with reduced

11:26:59 funding from our general budget, this is an opportunity for

11:27:02 us to bring economic development into our communities to

11:27:06 serve the low income areas of our city.

11:27:10 And some of our central business district residents fall

11:27:14 into that category.

11:27:15 So, there are opportunities that we can seize upon through

11:27:20 this federal funding.

11:27:22 So, I really would like to see more effort in economic

11:27:30 opportunities.

11:27:31 And just quickly, there's only five categories here outlined

11:27:34 in this -- it's page five of the application from last year.

11:27:42 Employment and life skills training.

11:27:45 Economic opportunities for senior citizens.

11:27:48 Job counsel being, training and placement services.

11:27:51 By technical assistance, child care and educational

11:27:55 services.

11:27:56 These are all things that if we put money into those,

11:28:00 perhaps we can reduce the need for some of the homeless

11:28:06 and -- take some of the 17,000 people that are on the street




11:28:10 every night with no place to live permanently, and turn this

11:28:16 pyramid upside down.

11:28:18 Put the money into training, put the money into programs

11:28:23 Ford indication that will help people turn their situation

11:28:28 and turn their lives around.

11:28:30 And perhaps they wouldn't be the basis of the need for so

11:28:34 many affordable housing units and so many rapid rehousing

11:28:38 dollars.

11:28:39 So, I really would like to start thinking at this from a

11:28:43 brand new set of glasses, if you will.

11:28:46 Because these are not times where we will be business as

11:28:53 usual.

11:28:53 Our economic conditions have changed.

11:28:57 We are in a time of tremendous upheaval in our society.

11:29:03 And now is the time to really change the way we look at

11:29:08 things.

11:29:08 So that's something that I really want to put emphasis on in

11:29:13 our program, not only for this one year coming up, but in

11:29:16 the five-year plan.

11:29:17 Because I don't think our economic conditions in this city

11:29:20 or in this country are really going to change substantially

11:29:23 in the next five years.

11:29:24 So we have to start planning now for the outlook for our

11:29:28 economy for those five years.

11:29:30 The citizen participation, another thing we talked about in




11:29:34 the special call session, was that we have -- we have a

11:29:39 committee and we have a report prepared from the community

11:29:43 development block grant advisory committee and citizens.

11:29:49 This is that report.

11:29:50 I talked with staff a bit about changing the way that the

11:29:57 citizens advisory committee looks at and is invited to make

11:30:02 recommendations.

11:30:04 Because if you look through some of these recommendations

11:30:06 from the community, some of them don't even qualify for

11:30:11 funding.

11:30:11 So I think that a clear set of guidelines needs to be

11:30:16 established on what is permittable under the funding

11:30:20 guidelines from the federal government and under whatever

11:30:24 funding we're looking for, from them.

11:30:28 The suggestions from the community.

11:30:30 Some of them fit, some of them don't.

11:30:32 So I don't want to set up expectations that groups are going

11:30:36 to be eligible to receive funding when in fact these are not

11:30:39 eligible opportunities.

11:30:41 So, perhaps there needs to be two separate committees.

11:30:45 One that is a CDBG advisory committee and where their

11:30:50 dollars are being apportioned.

11:30:53 And another one for our other goals for the city, some

11:30:58 neighborhood group advisory committee that we can say, maybe

11:31:04 there's other opportunities other than the CDBG funding to




11:31:08 get your needs met.

11:31:09 But I think too many people think that they can ask for just

11:31:14 about anything, and get funding for it, when in fact that's

11:31:18 not the case.

11:31:19 Maybe we can find funding for them somewhere, but it's not

11:31:22 through the CDBG process.

11:31:24 And the final thing I wanted to say is about the schedule.

11:31:28 We have technical assistance workshops happening January

11:31:32 through March.

11:31:32 We all know we are going to blink our eyes and it's going to

11:31:35 be December.

11:31:36 It seems like we took office April 1st and I blinked and

11:31:40 it's November.

11:31:40 So, I do want to not -- let me rephrase that.

11:31:47 I don't want to go down the path that we did last year.

11:31:51 And all of a sudden feel rushed about approving these

11:31:55 applications.

11:31:56 I don't want the citizens to miss out on opportunities that

11:32:00 they have to participate.

11:32:02 I think there are a lot of people who aren't aware of the

11:32:07 opportunities for participation in some of our Citizen

11:32:11 Advisory Committees or in the opportunities they have to be

11:32:14 a part of our local government.

11:32:16 So, our outreach efforts have to be redoubled.

11:32:20 And I know it's very difficult, as Councilwoman Chair




11:32:22 Mulhern said before, we have limited staff.

11:32:25 And they're overloaded and they're overworked and it's

11:32:29 becoming very difficult for them to, as Thom likes to say,

11:32:33 turn over every rock.

11:32:35 Because they simply don't have the time.

11:32:37 They work weekends, they work nights.

11:32:39 I talk to staff members sometimes, department heads,

11:32:42 Ms. Palus is one of them, we have conversations, 8:00, 9:00,

11:32:46 10:00 at night.

11:32:47 And that's pushing the envelope a built far.

11:32:49 As far as dedication to, that our staff has to the city.

11:32:58 It opens up the door information things to be rushed,

11:33:01 mistakes made, and just for morale.

11:33:04 I think that we need to really look at our, at where we have

11:33:09 opportunities.

11:33:09 I know some of the positions were left open in this previous

11:33:13 budget cycle.

11:33:14 And maybe we need to start pushing to bring some staff

11:33:18 members on in the positions that are open and available to

11:33:21 be filled.

11:33:22 And I think that's covers it.

11:33:28 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilmember Cohen?

11:33:31 >>HARRY COHEN: Just one brief comment slash question.

11:33:34 In the last two weeks or so, we lost a large amount of

11:33:40 matching dollars that was coming from the federal government




11:33:43 for canal drenching.

11:33:46 And an -- dredging.

11:33:48 An awful lot of these plans are predicated on federal

11:33:52 grants.

11:33:53 We know congress is meeting and deficit reduction mode, that

11:33:56 they are looking at federal spending to try to reduce a

11:34:01 trillion dollars.

11:34:03 I think that's the number that I've heard, from the federal

11:34:06 budget.

11:34:07 Do you have any sense yet how many of these programs are

11:34:11 going to be at risk and to what degree we should expect that

11:34:16 the amount of money available to us is going to be reduced?

11:34:21 >> I don't have a sense, but what I will show is that

11:34:24 yesterday the secretary -- the deputy secretary from HUD,

11:34:29 Mercedes McKay was here, announcing another program, we

11:34:34 are trying to get that.

11:34:36 Councilman Suarez was there.

11:34:37 One of the things that Santiago Corrada asked, CDBG has been

11:34:44 cut, cut, is that something that we can expect?

11:34:47 She said she wasn't sure as well.

11:34:49 Councilmember Suarez, you can chime in on that.

11:34:56 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Go ahead and chime.

11:34:58 >> I'm sorry.

11:34:58 I'm not the Chair.

11:35:00 I mean, when we asked her that direct question, because she




11:35:05 was trying to promote another program coming down the road

11:35:09 perhaps, if we were fortunate enough to have that passed.

11:35:11 We asked a question, so if you have that, are these other

11:35:14 funds going to be cut?

11:35:16 She didn't have an answer for that.

11:35:17 So I don't really have a sense, anyone in budget want to

11:35:21 take a shot -- I think it's exactly as you said, they're in

11:35:25 a cut mode.

11:35:27 And I fully suspect we are going to not get the same amount

11:35:30 of money we got last year.

11:35:31 Last year, we I got think 12 or 16% reduction.

11:35:36 Hopefully it won't be that severe, but I suspect there will

11:35:38 be a percentage point or two less.

11:35:41 >> And I think that what's important about that is that it

11:35:45 makes it very, very important that we're very clear on what

11:35:48 our priorities are.

11:35:50 Because if we knee what our priorities are, then if the cuts

11:35:54 come, it will be clear, you know, if we have any way of

11:36:00 controlling -- we may not have any control over where the

11:36:03 cuts come.

11:36:03 But if we do have some control, it will be helpful to be

11:36:06 very clear where our priorities are.

11:36:08 >> The priorities, and that's a good segway, because your

11:36:11 priorities are established in your consolidated plan.

11:36:14 Your five year consolidated plan says we are going to




11:36:17 achieve these things.

11:36:18 These are our goals and this is how we propose to get there.

11:36:21 Then you come back every year, you see what pot of money you

11:36:24 have to achieve those things and identify your priorities.

11:36:27 And then make the hard choices.

11:36:38 >> I didn't hear you.

11:36:42 Indulge me on my voice, I apologize.

11:36:46 Thom did a very good job explaining what the assistant

11:36:50 secretary of HUD told us yesterday.

11:36:52 Primarily, there are two things, the way I had from that

11:36:57 meeting.

11:36:57 One is, as Thom said, we don't know where this is going in

11:37:02 terms of how much money is going to be available to us as a

11:37:06 city and all other cities and counties across the country.

11:37:10 The second take-away I got out of it was that they're going

11:37:15 to allow a lot more leeway in terms of what we can use some

11:37:20 of these dollars for.

11:37:22 That they are going to promote and reward creativity much

11:37:26 more than they are now.

11:37:27 And that although the monies may be less, there may be

11:37:33 better ways of fitting into what we actually need as opposed

11:37:38 to trying to fit our programs into the guidelines of a

11:37:41 particular grant.

11:37:43 To me, I think that Thom, you would agree, that's part of

11:37:47 what's exciting about this, because they are much more --




11:37:52 they're trying to write the rules specifically to make it

11:37:54 easier for competitive bidding for monies and being able to

11:38:01 shake the way -- shape the way you want your city to do.

11:38:04 And a lot more for all of us up here.

11:38:06 I know we think about this all the time, economic

11:38:08 development and economic competitiveness.

11:38:10 So there's going to be a lot of other monies within these

11:38:15 guides that are going to allow us to go forward.

11:38:20 I won't belabor my -- I know it's like scratching on the

11:38:24 blackboard.

11:38:25 I apologize, but thank you.

11:38:30 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilwoman Capin?

11:38:32 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.

11:38:32 I want to commend Councilwoman Montelione on pointing out

11:38:36 the other activities that do fall under the CDBG funds.

11:38:42 And I was looking over some of the applications and proposed

11:38:48 projects that came forth, back when we were approving this.

11:38:53 And they do have an explanation.

11:38:58 These monies that are going to these different entities,

11:39:04 there are categories, and they are filled in.

11:39:07 And there are explanations.

11:39:09 And some of them fall under those five categories, but not

11:39:12 all of them.

11:39:14 So, this is exactly the purpose of this part of the

11:39:18 workshop, is to, for us to understand further the




11:39:24 limitations that are put upon.

11:39:28 And definitely for the citizens committee to understand the

11:39:34 parameters that are placed on us and them before they start

11:39:40 the process.

11:39:41 And I think that's pretty clear because Mr. Stelling from

11:39:44 the beginning, I believe you stated that's exactly what

11:39:51 you're looking at, is bringing that forward.

11:39:53 So I appreciate that.

11:39:54 I think that was really the crux of it, is to have the

11:39:57 citizens advisory to understand those parameters so that

11:40:02 they won't be again all the time involved in the

11:40:06 disappointment.

11:40:08 I am very glad to hear that part -- I'm not glad about the

11:40:12 monies being less.

11:40:13 But definitely about the more leeway and more openness and

11:40:19 more creativeness.

11:40:20 I think that's really where the cities can -- municipalities

11:40:25 can make a difference.

11:40:28 And set yourself apart from other municipalities, again

11:40:34 attracting economic development.

11:40:36 So I'm glad you were there to share with us.

11:40:39 >> One other things the department secretary did mention is

11:40:43 that because Tampa did receive one of the competitive grants

11:40:47 through the NSP process and she had over 400 applications

11:40:52 that came in for that, and they were only able to award 56,




11:40:55 she said that was an extremely competitive process and the

11:40:58 fact we were able to secure funding in that program gives us

11:41:02 a bit of a leg, because we do think more creatively.

11:41:07 There's that it silver lining there, so we will try to be as

11:41:10 creative as possible, go after as much as we can.

11:41:14 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.

11:41:20 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.

11:41:21 I think, I just want to thank you for doing this and thank

11:41:26 Council for actually taking the initiative to get the

11:41:32 guidelines, the input and schedule down so that we could

11:41:36 have the involvement.

11:41:38 And also for the public -- so the public would know.

11:41:42 We could open the process for these grant applications up,

11:41:47 so really appreciate it.

11:41:48 Thank you.

11:41:49 >> Thank you, Council.

11:41:50 >>MARY MULHERN: Council, we have just one more item.

11:41:57 And I did not take this -- we didn't talk about this at the

11:42:03 beginning of the meeting, but this is a workshop meeting.

11:42:08 And public comment on workshop matters, as we have been

11:42:12 taking them and actually we may still have -- did you ask

11:42:18 for public comment?

11:42:19 So there was no public comment on the last one.

11:42:22 So our next item has to do with the tree survey.

11:42:25 And if there is anyone from the public wishing to speak,




11:42:28 that is the only opportunity and the only subject on which

11:42:32 you'll be able to speak.

11:42:33 So, I just want people to know if you're here thinking

11:42:36 you're going to speak at the end of the meeting on

11:42:39 non-agenda items, that is not part of these workshop

11:42:42 meetings.

11:42:42 And this won't be an opportunity for that.

11:42:44 But if you wish to speak on the tree survey, you will have

11:42:49 an opportunity to do that.

11:42:51 Then I wanted to ask Council, actually, maybe we could

11:42:54 ask -- Ms. Palus, are you giving the presentation?

11:42:59 How long do you think we're going to need?

11:43:01 >> Good morning.

11:43:03 Karen Palus, parks and rec gracious department.

11:43:06 We have 30 minute for our consultants to share the

11:43:08 information.

11:43:09 >>MARY MULHERN: So Council, normally we'd be breaking before

11:43:11 then.

11:43:12 So what's the pleasure of Council?

11:43:14 >> Madam Chair, I will move that we extend the time to

11:43:19 12:15.

11:43:20 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.

11:43:21 All in favor?

11:43:22 Aye.

11:43:23 Anyone opposed?




11:43:34 >>MARY MULHERN: Oh, I'm sorry, 12:15.

11:43:36 How many people are wishing to speak on the tree ordinance?

11:43:43 Okay.

11:43:43 Thank you.

11:43:44 So that should be fine.

11:43:54 >> Good morning.

11:43:54 Karen Palus again.

11:43:56 I have provided you all copies of the PowerPoint that you

11:43:58 will see this morning.

11:43:59 If you have any questions that come along.

11:44:04 I would like to first just introduce a couple folks that are

11:44:07 here from our team that have been working very hard on our

11:44:11 City of Tampa's urban forest.

11:44:12 I'd like to introduce them, our planning design

11:44:16 superintendent.

11:44:23 Serving the staff.

11:44:24 Have been responsible for the program.

11:44:26 And have been working with our consultants diligently.

11:44:31 What I wanted to do first is introduce the two folks that

11:44:33 are going to present to you this morning.

11:44:35 What I asked for them to do is, we had a neighborhood

11:44:39 meeting just recently, couple weeks ago, where they did the

11:44:43 presentation in its entirety.

11:44:44 So you're going to get an abbreviated version.

11:44:49 Give you a little history about the program, what we're




11:44:51 doing, what's going through the neighborhood survey and then

11:44:55 what's to come.

11:44:56 So you have a little overview overall of where we're at with

11:44:59 our urban forest management plan.

11:45:01 We are pleased to be able to present that we are also going

11:45:04 to provide four information on our web site where you can

11:45:07 see the entire program that was presented to the

11:45:10 neighborhood leaders and the folks that participated in the

11:45:12 public meeting in its entirety if you so choose.

11:45:15 So it's up on the web site and available for not only those

11:45:18 folks here today but anybody out there and has access to

11:45:21 their computer.

11:45:22 So we encourage folks to do that I'd like to introduce first

11:45:26 for our group is rob Northrop, the urban forester and lead

11:45:32 on our project.

11:45:33 He's with the university of Florida.

11:45:34 And our Hillsborough County extension office and he's going

11:45:36 to lead the presentation.

11:45:37 And then from there, Shawn laundry is going to

11:45:40 Councilmember.

11:45:41 He's a research associate professor, consultants with the

11:45:45 university of south Florida.

11:45:46 Florida center for community design and research.

11:45:48 We have comped both really strong universities in the state

11:45:52 of Florida.




11:45:52 So we are pleased to have them as our consultants.

11:45:55 They've been doing a great job.

11:45:57 Without further ado, I'll have rob come up first.

11:46:00 >> Good morning.

11:46:01 It's been a long morning for you all.

11:46:04 Sitting and listen to us all.

11:46:08 First I just wanted to say that this is an open and

11:46:14 inclusive and collaborative process.

11:46:16 And that's why in fact I know that someone earlier had

11:46:20 actually given you the web site link.

11:46:24 On that web site is all, are all of the documents, minutes,

11:46:30 announcements, technical reports, but the public meetings

11:46:34 that we hold are being videotaped, very well, nicely by the

11:46:40 University of Florida and packaged.

11:46:41 And they're on the web site also, so the people that can't

11:46:44 attend the meetings, they can watch the presentations and

11:46:47 then there's actually a link on the web site so they can

11:46:50 actually comment or ask questions.

11:46:51 And we respond to those questions.

11:46:54 Yes, ma'am?

11:46:55 >>MARY MULHERN: Can I just ask you, because we had the study

11:46:58 that was done a couple years ago that led to your project

11:47:03 now.

11:47:04 I don't think any of the people on Council were here for

11:47:07 that.




11:47:07 Councilwoman Capin may have been, but I think was a few

11:47:12 years ago.

11:47:13 Could you just give us a brief synopsis of how that study

11:47:18 started and how it led up to this?

11:47:21 >> Yes, ma'am.

11:47:27 We're going to go right there.

11:47:28 So I think I'm going to push this button right, correctly.

11:47:33 Going to give you just a really brief history up to the

11:47:38 point of doing the neighborhood survey.

11:47:40 And then Charles handled that.

11:47:44 I'll come back and bring you up to date on where we are

11:47:47 today.

11:47:47 Back in 1998, was the first ecological analysis of the urban

11:47:52 forest.

11:47:53 That was conducted by the University of South Florida.

11:47:55 That was funded by the U.S. forest service through the state

11:47:59 of Florida division of forestry.

11:48:01 In fact, Shawn was one of the principal investigators at

11:48:03 that point.

11:48:04 In 2006, City Council directed the parks and recreation

11:48:09 department to conduct ecological analysis every five years.

11:48:13 And that's the one that was just referenced.

11:48:16 We took, we participated in that one.

11:48:19 I'll bring you up on that one in just a minute.

11:48:21 In 2008, an urban and community forestry grant was used,




11:48:27 again, monies coming from the U.S. forest service through

11:48:29 the state of Florida division of forestry, to develop a

11:48:32 strategy or an outline for how the city can proceed in

11:48:37 developing an urban forest management plan that leads to

11:48:40 sustainability of that particular resource and in 2010 now,

11:48:46 we are into the second cycle that City Council had asked for

11:48:50 of doing an urban ecological analysis of the urban forest

11:48:53 one more time.

11:48:55 Wanted to say at this point that the City of Tampa is the

11:48:59 first city in the United States to actually look at the

11:49:02 urban forest, this intensively and consecutive five year

11:49:08 cycles like this to better understand trends in the urban

11:49:12 forest that is the composition and condition of the forest,

11:49:15 and so that we can compare that to changes in policy,

11:49:19 changes in management, just like a business.

11:49:22 You would just track how you're doing.

11:49:24 So the city is truly, and I mean this sincerely, to be

11:49:27 commended on that.

11:49:28 I want to let you know that the U.S. forest service at this

11:49:32 point just came back from the Atlanta meeting with the U.S.

11:49:36 forest service is looking at the City of Tampa as being the

11:49:39 example of how to approach urban forestry in the southern

11:49:43 United States.

11:49:43 So, the survey that we conducted in 2006, what we did was we

11:49:51 used state of the art modeling and inventory techniques




11:49:57 developed by the U.S. forest service, peer reviewed by

11:50:00 scientists from around the world.

11:50:02 We placed in Tampa 200 randomly selected permanent plots.

11:50:08 That's GIS GPS plots to capture information about

11:50:13 vegetation, including ground cover, shrub cover, trees, the

11:50:17 composition, their size, their distribution.

11:50:19 Their condition.

11:50:20 And so the information that we collected could then be used

11:50:26 to help address prioritizing management needs.

11:50:30 At the same time, we conducted two forms of tree cover

11:50:35 analysis.

11:50:37 One of them was from the ground up.

11:50:40 200 plots.

11:50:41 And the other had to do with the interpretation of satellite

11:50:45 imagery.

11:50:45 Capped was, we were able to proscribe for the city the

11:50:51 distribution of tree canopy across the surface of the city,

11:50:55 including, and breaking it down into neighborhoods and

11:50:58 things like that so that management decisions could be made

11:51:01 based upon those types of units.

11:51:03 But the satellite analysis actually showed 29% canopy

11:51:07 coverage.

11:51:08 And the on-ground management -- measurements, excuse me,

11:51:12 came up with 20% coverage.

11:51:17 Freakishly close.




11:51:19 We like to think it had to do with our precision and

11:51:23 accuracy in the work we do.

11:51:24 The executive -- executive summary out of the 2006, 2007

11:51:30 analysis, documented that within the City of Tampa, there

11:51:34 were about 7.8 million trees.

11:51:37 And that if you used the techniques prescribed by landscape

11:51:42 appraisers, that the total value of those trees to the City

11:51:46 of Tampa, just economic value of their replacement, would be

11:51:50 about $1.5 billion.

11:51:53 In other words, the tree asset to the City of Tampa is at

11:51:57 about $1.5 billion at this point.

11:51:59 We also -- this is a very quick summary.

11:52:03 Gives you the tree cover.

11:52:05 Indicates some of the ecological services that are being

11:52:08 provided, including the reduction in major pollutants that

11:52:12 EPA tracks, relative to respiratory diseases.

11:52:16 What you don't see here, I'd like to suggest, is some of the

11:52:18 social services that are being provided that science lets us

11:52:22 understand that the urban forest provides.

11:52:26 For instance, a reduction in domestic violence.

11:52:29 Reduction in attention deficit disorder in young children.

11:52:33 These are science-based outcomes from having a vibrant and

11:52:40 diverse and well managed urban forest.

11:52:44 So there are many social values also.

11:52:46 In the 2008, after the 2006 analysis was published, the




11:52:53 mayor at that time asked to us conduct a symposium, an open

11:52:57 public meeting.

11:52:57 At that meeting, about 120 participants, including

11:53:04 neighborhood leaders, business people, professionals,

11:53:08 industry leaders, converged and actually worked through a

11:53:13 series of facilitated discussions to identify and list

11:53:17 issues related to the sustainability of Tampa's urban

11:53:21 forest.

11:53:21 Out of that particular symposium came a steering committee

11:53:26 that was appointed by the department of parks and

11:53:28 recreation, made up of a diverse group of people, again,

11:53:33 representing a wide variety of prospectives and interests.

11:53:38 To begin to develop a vision statement and written goals and

11:53:44 suggested strategies for urban forest sustainability in the

11:53:53 City of Tampa.

11:53:53 Boiled down, if you will.

11:53:55 I would say that the vision statement suggests that the

11:54:00 Tampa urban forest is valuable for a number of different

11:54:03 reasons.

11:54:04 And that we need to continue to work on improving the

11:54:08 delivery of benefits and reducing the costs and risks to the

11:54:13 people who live in Tampa.

11:54:14 It's all -- this particular statement, this vision statement

11:54:20 and the written goals that are associated with the report

11:54:22 that came out of this steering committee, all of which are




11:54:26 on the web site, that we begin to build the basis for moving

11:54:31 forward and helping the City of Tampa in developing an urban

11:54:35 forest plan structure.

11:54:38 With that I want to turn it over to Shawn Landry, who will

11:54:42 discuss the survey, the social surveys we conducted.

11:54:49 >> Clearly there's not enough time to go over detailed

11:54:53 survey results.

11:54:54 But I want to give you a sense of what we're beginning to

11:54:56 learn and how it's being considered as part of this whole

11:54:59 process.

11:55:00 Apologize for that.

11:55:18 I deal with technology all the time.

11:55:22 You'd think I'd get that one right.

11:55:24 So, as rob had mentioned, the business community

11:55:29 neighborhood groups, residents, already been involved in

11:55:33 this process and they continue to be involved through

11:55:36 various mechanisms.

11:55:37 But one way we can learn about people's attitudes towards

11:55:43 the trees and landscape and the forest is by conducting

11:55:47 surveys.

11:55:48 So one of the reasons why social surveys your so important

11:55:52 in the context of managing the urban forest is that

11:55:57 emphasized by this quote from the 1950s from Baltimore.

11:56:01 Where I was under the impression that all people liked to

11:56:04 have trees and planted in front of their houses, until I




11:56:07 started planting trees in front of houses.

11:56:09 They found certain neighborhoods that absolutely wanted

11:56:14 concrete.

11:56:15 And if you planted a tree, they would remove it.

11:56:17 So, interesting.

11:56:19 But true.

11:56:20 And so one of the things that's really critical for us to do

11:56:23 is get a real understanding of how people value trees, what

11:56:28 do they feel are the benefits and costs and where are these

11:56:32 concerns, within different neighborhoods of the city.

11:56:35 So you can start to really consider that when you're

11:56:37 prioritizing your resources.

11:56:40 The small map, you can't see, is showing the 29% tree canopy

11:56:46 cover that we currently have.

11:56:48 And then the one on your right is showing physically,

11:56:53 there's another 29% in lawns and vegetation cover

11:56:59 effectively space that could relatively easily be planted

11:57:03 with trees.

11:57:04 So you ask, well, why isn't the amount of tree canopy

11:57:08 double?

11:57:09 And obviously, one reason is because we don't want trees

11:57:11 everywhere.

11:57:12 And we don't want trees in certain places.

11:57:15 So, in conducting a number of these surveys in 2007, there

11:57:20 was a survey conducted looking at, in Hillsborough County




11:57:23 neighborhood associations, including the City of Tampa.

11:57:27 In 2010, there was some work that USF.

11:57:32 In 2010, there was also the neighborhood association survey

11:57:35 that we conducted again.

11:57:38 And then there's additional surveys coming down the road.

11:57:42 One of them I'm finishing up right now on household

11:57:45 attitudes towards street tree management.

11:57:48 And then another one that will be focusing on the community

11:57:50 tree planting program.

11:57:51 Most of these surveys are not actually being funded by the

11:57:56 city directly.

11:57:58 Indirectly, of course, there's support.

11:58:00 So just a brief overview of what we are learning.

11:58:06 In 2007, all the Hillsborough County neighborhood an

11:58:09 community associations were surveyed.

11:58:11 Primarily you can think of this as the leadership in

11:58:15 neighborhood associations.

11:58:18 So they identified different benefits that they thought

11:58:20 trees provided.

11:58:24 Aesthetics and shade, property values, providing that kind

11:58:28 of community character, like you see in many of our

11:58:31 communities.

11:58:31 Those are the big benefit people saw.

11:58:34 You can see how that compares to national surveys.

11:58:39 One of the things I'll emphasize, when people start to think




11:58:42 about the costs associated with trees, one of the problems,

11:58:45 what are the issues of concern?

11:58:47 Hurricane damage from trees.

11:58:49 This is in 2007, two years after, the hurricane season that

11:58:54 we all hated.

11:58:55 And people clearly felt hurricanes were a problem when it

11:59:00 came to trees.

11:59:01 You'll note that that's not at all on the radar of national

11:59:05 surveys.

11:59:06 And so, what that points is that Tampa is a unique place,

11:59:11 clearly.

11:59:11 We have unique people.

11:59:12 We have unique forests.

11:59:15 We have relatively subtropical.

11:59:17 There's a lot of differences.

11:59:18 We need to understand Tampa.

11:59:19 We don't need to understand Chicago and Boston and New York

11:59:23 and what they want.

11:59:24 We need to understand what we want.

11:59:26 And another one I want to point out is tree damage to walks.

11:59:31 People clearly have a concern with damage to sidewalks in

11:59:34 addition to roads and foundations.

11:59:36 A couple things that we're using this information for, one

11:59:40 is, we can't prevent what happened already in the past of

11:59:45 planting trees that were susceptible to hurricane damage.




11:59:49 Those trees have been planted long and long ago.

11:59:51 What we can do though is try to make sure that they're not

11:59:54 planted in the future.

11:59:55 And so we have provided simple tree lists of recommended

11:59:58 trees for residents to plant.

12:00:01 Obviously, trees that are susceptible to wind damage are not

12:00:04 on that list.

12:00:05 And purposefully.

12:00:06 So that they understand that those are trees in 50 years, if

12:00:09 you want to avoid wind problems, let's not plant the trees

12:00:13 that are really that susceptible.

12:00:15 With sidewalks, there was a recent workshop convened with

12:00:20 the city and the county with university of Florida, and it

12:00:26 was focusing on sidewalks and trees.

12:00:28 And it was a large attendance.

12:00:32 And those meetings are being followed up with looking at

12:00:36 what are the solutions to managing this problem of sidewalks

12:00:39 and trees?

12:00:40 How can we do it so that we can have both and the best of

12:00:43 both worlds?

12:00:45 In 2010, an USF study was conducted, just a randomly

12:00:54 households are selected randomly.

12:00:56 Not a lot of households responded.

12:00:59 107 households.

12:01:00 But again, they identified top benefits, aesthetics and




12:01:04 shade and some of the problems, root damage.

12:01:06 They also identified allergies as a problem.

12:01:17 But really what this survey, this research was set out to do

12:01:23 is find out, are people willing to pay more to increase the

12:01:28 resource of trees in the City of Tampa?

12:01:31 In a waive using some economic techniques to quantify that

12:01:35 in real numbers.

12:01:36 You know, saying if you value it, you're going to pay for

12:01:39 it.

12:01:39 And so they asked that.

12:01:42 Again, this is only 107 households.

12:01:44 I'm not going to take this to the bank.

12:01:46 But people are willing to pay $800,000 more per year to

12:01:50 increase the forests.

12:01:52 Each.

12:01:55 [ Laughter ]

12:01:56 >>MARY MULHERN: What does that mean?

12:01:57 Out of our general revenue they think we should spend that

12:02:03 much?

12:02:04 >> People are saying, are you willing to pay more taxes?

12:02:08 >>MARY MULHERN: So that's how much you told them that it

12:02:10 would cost to provide that many more trees and they said yes

12:02:14 basically?

12:02:15 >> I actually didn't do the survey.

12:02:17 >>MARY MULHERN: Whoever did it?




12:02:18 >> Essentially.

12:02:19 They said, how much will you be willing to pay?

12:02:22 This amount, this amount, this amount?

12:02:28 That's annually.

12:02:29 But again --

12:02:31 >>MARY MULHERN: Did they get their names?

12:02:32 [ Laughter ]

12:02:34 >> They were setting up the web site so they can start

12:02:37 donating.

12:02:38 Followup to neighborhood association survey was done last

12:02:43 year.

12:02:45 Again, mostly leaders of neighborhood associations.

12:02:49 Whenever we conduct a survey, we always want to look at who

12:02:52 is this survey representing?

12:02:54 The responses we get are only meaningful if we know who

12:02:58 those response are representing.

12:03:00 What we find when we look at a lot of the survey results is

12:03:05 that Hispanic communities generally and African-American

12:03:09 communities in Tampa are relatively underrepresented in the

12:03:15 responses.

12:03:18 Attempts are always made to research out to survey those

12:03:24 folks in some of those areas.

12:03:27 But, the response is not coming back.

12:03:30 And so, it's clearly a challenge moving forward is to, you

12:03:36 know, make sure we understand that these concerns people




12:03:40 raise, the benefits people raise, are not necessarily

12:03:42 reflecting everybody.

12:03:44 And that it will be important to make further progress and

12:03:49 in identifying those opinions.

12:03:51 And clearly when you look at the map of neighborhood

12:03:54 associations, you know there's not a neighborhood

12:03:56 association in every neighborhood.

12:03:57 And so, that's obviously always a challenge that you deal

12:04:00 with every day.

12:04:01 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilwoman Capin has a question.

12:04:04 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I know that you didn't do the survey, but

12:04:06 here on the demographics, you have white, Hispanic,

12:04:11 African-American.

12:04:13 It should be Anglo.

12:04:16 >> Correct.

12:04:17 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I'm sorry.

12:04:18 But it is such a common mistake that I had to point it out.

12:04:23 >> Well, I appreciate that.

12:04:25 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Whoever did the survey, please -- who is it?

12:04:28 I can let them know myself.

12:04:30 >> I should clarify that these were -- this presentation was

12:04:34 generated as part of the public meeting and it was

12:04:41 simplified in this way.

12:04:44 Take that to note.

12:04:45 And I can promise that in most, our discussions, that is




12:04:49 indeed the way we talk about this.

12:04:51 In fact, there are many more groups that were included in

12:04:57 the demographics.

12:04:58 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I do appreciate though the numbers on the

12:05:00 survey.

12:05:01 And I do appreciate what was done.

12:05:03 I just would like it to be correct.

12:05:06 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilwoman, what, what should it be?

12:05:09 Caucasian?

12:05:11 >>YVONNE CAPIN: No, Anglo.

12:05:12 And Hispanic is every race.

12:05:14 Hispanic is not a race.

12:05:15 Hispanic is an ethnicity.

12:05:18 There is white, Asian, African, Hispanic.

12:05:23 So when you look at it, it is Anglo, Hispanic,

12:05:28 African-American.

12:05:28 If they're looking at --

12:05:33 >>MARY MULHERN: If you say Hispanic, then you say Anglo to

12:05:36 go with Hispanic?

12:05:38 >>YVONNE CAPIN: No.

12:05:39 >>MARY MULHERN: I don't understand.

12:05:41 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Well, on the 2010 survey, population survey,

12:05:47 if you look at, for the first time ever, under Hispanic, it

12:05:51 had three different categories.

12:05:53 White, black, other.




12:05:56 Because Hispanic is an umbrella of every race that you can

12:06:01 find in the world.

12:06:02 It is an ethnic group.

12:06:05 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.

12:06:05 So within Hispanic, there's --

12:06:08 >>YVONNE CAPIN: There's white, black and other.

12:06:10 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.

12:06:11 Thanks.

12:06:12 >> And this is -- I apologize for that.

12:06:18 We generally try to clarify that this is a combination of

12:06:21 race and ethnicity.

12:06:23 And this was simplified to the point it's incorrect.

12:06:27 Moving on, clearly one of the things we wanted to identify

12:06:31 was the benefits that these community leaders felt trees

12:06:36 provided.

12:06:38 And here is what we asked is, do you gray that this is a

12:06:41 benefit?

12:06:42 And the responses were that shade, property values, create

12:06:47 being a character in the community, making business

12:06:51 districts more attractive, reducing noise, reducing water

12:06:56 Run-off, reducing air pollution, etcetera.

12:06:59 And so, what you see by these percentages is that there was

12:07:02 strong agreement that there were a lot of benefits trees

12:07:07 provided.

12:07:08 And of course, when you're developing, as rob mentioned,




12:07:12 when you're developing the urban forest management plan,

12:07:15 that is to maximize these benefits.

12:07:18 And so when you -- it's also important to consider what are

12:07:22 the problems?

12:07:22 What are peoples' concerns with trees?

12:07:24 Therefore, you can prioritize what you address as far as the

12:07:28 problems.

12:07:29 One thing you find is that people who responded to this

12:07:33 survey, and this wasn't strong agreement that there was a

12:07:36 lot of problems, but it's helpful what they pointed out was

12:07:41 the problems they saw were trees fall on power lines,

12:07:46 clearly.

12:07:46 They dropped debris.

12:07:48 They're ugly when they're not maintained.

12:07:51 They make it difficult to detect criminal behavior.

12:07:54 Some of the things that people, what you find when you hear

12:07:57 these survey results is that there's some problems people

12:08:01 point out that may be based on misperceptions, lack of

12:08:06 education and of course, that they're legitimate enough so

12:08:11 that maybe the solution is not necessarily to, is going to

12:08:15 affect the way your educate people and the information you

12:08:18 share and how you communicate it, to clarify how people can

12:08:22 manage a tree so that it doesn't cause certain problems.

12:08:26 So again, there's some problems that are -- we're beginning

12:08:33 to really understand so that as we move forward, we can




12:08:36 start to address these problems as we manage the urban

12:08:40 forest.

12:08:41 Quick summary of the survey, what we learned, there's a lot

12:08:47 of strong opinions, positive opinions about trees.

12:08:51 In all the surveys, much fear people kind of expressed,

12:08:55 real, strong concerns or I should say problems that maybe

12:09:01 aren't, that we can't address.

12:09:04 So, they pointed out some of the important things that need

12:09:08 to be addressed.

12:09:09 But, overwhelmingly people felt trees provide quite a bit of

12:09:14 benefit and it's worth talking about these issues.

12:09:17 And so that's exactly what we can do as we start to move

12:09:20 forward.

12:09:20 And I'll let rob show you where things are going right now.

12:09:26 >> Thank you, sir.

12:09:27 So the order that was given from City Council to the

12:09:36 department of parks and recreation had a certain series of

12:09:40 steps that were required for the development of the urban

12:09:44 forest management plan.

12:09:45 One of them was to conduct the community preferences survey

12:09:49 and do an analysis.

12:09:50 And of course, that was right up front as was appropriate.

12:09:54 The second is to organize technical advisory committee,

12:09:58 internal technical advisory committee made up of different

12:10:01 departments within the city that either directly or




12:10:04 indirectly affect the placement and health of trees.

12:10:09 Verification of goals and generation of alternatives for

12:10:12 action.

12:10:13 And then finally to generate the urban forest management

12:10:16 plan.

12:10:17 What parks and recreation did was appoint a diverse group of

12:10:22 people to serve on the steering committee to provide

12:10:24 guidance and to periodically overview and get feedback on

12:10:29 different steps as they were going along.

12:10:31 Again, that steering committee was initially -- initially we

12:10:38 had thought the steering committee would be the steering

12:10:40 committee that had existed just after the symposium when

12:10:43 they created division statement and series of goals.

12:10:45 Many of those people stayed on, but in fact others couldn't

12:10:50 work their time schedules out to participate.

12:10:53 And so new members were chosen.

12:10:55 When we began to work with the city's department of parks

12:10:59 and recreation, we wanted to set a framework for how we

12:11:03 would proceed with helping the city develop an urban forest

12:11:08 management plan.

12:11:09 Parks and recreation department came up with these six

12:11:13 guiding principles that no matter what the plans look like,

12:11:16 it had to fulfill these six outcomes.

12:11:19 It had to lead to efficiencies in government, had it to

12:11:23 support and not encumber economic growth.




12:11:27 It had to in fact be based upon private and public

12:11:30 partnerships because much of the Yauch forest is on private

12:11:33 land anyway, so the city only controls what's in the

12:11:36 right-of-ways truly and what's on the public lands.

12:11:38 Had focus on increasing the social and the economic and

12:11:46 environmental benefits while reducing costs.

12:11:48 It had to be supported by communities and it had to support

12:11:53 communities and it also had to be grounded in and support

12:11:56 the basic tenets of the comprehensive plan.

12:12:01 In other words, urban forest plan wasn't supposed to just

12:12:05 take off and go its own way.

12:12:07 It was supposed to be embedded in what everyone had decided

12:12:11 was the right course of action in the city.

12:12:13 So, work to date, the second iteration of the inventory is

12:12:19 underway.

12:12:20 As a matter of fact, Carolyn, my associate, just told me

12:12:23 yesterday that field work is finished.

12:12:25 So we'll begin doing the analysis of that second inventory

12:12:29 and probably have some preliminary results for you sometime

12:12:32 in January or February.

12:12:33 We have conducted the survey of community leaders.

12:12:37 We have held preliminary discussions with growth management

12:12:40 and development services.

12:12:42 And with the city attorneys office.

12:12:44 We conducted a preliminary review of ordinances and internal




12:12:48 processes.

12:12:49 And procedures.

12:12:50 And have also conducted conversations with federal and state

12:12:54 agencies and with other cities throughout the United States

12:12:57 to discuss how they're proceeding in managing the urban

12:13:01 forest.

12:13:01 We have identified a series of criteria and performance

12:13:05 indicators that we believe can be used to frame out the

12:13:10 process for developing a science-based and strategic

12:13:15 methodology for assessing the condition of the urban forests

12:13:20 and for prioritizing work that needs to be done to increase

12:13:25 those benefits, reduce costs and reduce risks and at the

12:13:30 same time, can be used to set work projects in place and to

12:13:37 evaluate the efficiency of the management that the city

12:13:41 provides to the urban forest.

12:13:44 We held a two meetings with the steering committee so far.

12:13:47 The folks who are working with us to review our work and

12:13:51 give us comments.

12:13:52 We had a must be meeting on October 5th.

12:13:55 And we held a meeting with Mayor Bob Buckhorn on

12:14:00 October 17 to give him the information that you've gotten.

12:14:03 And we are meeting with you today.

12:14:05 So I guess that's kind of up to date.

12:14:08 The criterion performance indicators on urban forest

12:14:13 sustainability.




12:14:13 I think that you've got them in your packet.

12:14:17 If you don't, I want to give them to you.

12:14:19 There's actually 28 differ criteria.

12:14:21 The criteria are basically key objectives for urban forest

12:14:26 sustainability.

12:14:26 They are not the goals.

12:14:29 I really want to let you know that my colleagues and I Shawn

12:14:34 Landry and our partners at the university of Florida,

12:14:37 Dr. Michael Andrew are helping the city develop a strategic

12:14:40 plan for meeting your goals.

12:14:43 Not for our goals.

12:14:44 Our expertise is in the technology and in the management of

12:14:50 forests.

12:14:51 And we are trying to help you develop that system.

12:14:55 Okay.

12:14:55 So the performance -- the criteria performance indicators,

12:15:00 we had them for vegetative resource, the trees and shrubs

12:15:03 themselves, criteria and performance indicators for

12:15:06 institutional and community interactions and criterion

12:15:10 performance indicators for resource management or the

12:15:15 management.

12:15:16 >> I'm sorry to interrupt.

12:15:18 [Inaudible, not speaking with mic]

12:15:27 >> Anyone from the public?

12:15:30 >> Motion to continue for five minutes.




12:15:37 >> I just got closing remarks.

12:15:40 And then that's it.

12:15:41 So, the next steps is what I wanted to share with you.

12:15:45 We did meet with Mayor Bob Buckhorn last week.

12:15:49 And he is in the process of identifying and appointing an

12:15:55 internal technical advisory committee.

12:15:57 Representing various departments city wide.

12:16:03 And with this, with the help of the internal technical

12:16:05 advisory committee and with the steering committee that was

12:16:08 appointed by the departments of parks and recreation, we

12:16:13 will use that criteria and performance indicator to do an

12:16:17 assessment of the forests and forest management within the

12:16:21 city.

12:16:24 We are using funds that we have received from the national

12:16:26 science foundation to right now conduct a survey of street

12:16:30 tree management, attitudes of people in different

12:16:33 neighborhoods.

12:16:33 That's actually being spearheaded by Shawn Landry and the

12:16:37 university of South Florida.

12:16:38 The U.S. forest service is funding through the division of

12:16:43 forestry in Florida an evaluation of your community tree

12:16:47 program.

12:16:47 Why do some people take advantage of your tree community

12:16:51 program or get trees and plant them and take care of them

12:16:55 and why do some folks not want to do that?




12:16:57 We believe that the answer to that is a really good

12:17:02 indication of how people do or do not value trees in the

12:17:05 urban area.

12:17:06 We are going to facilitate a workshop on the establishment

12:17:12 of land use specific canopy goals.

12:17:15 Because we recognize that when we talk about the urban

12:17:20 forest, the amount of the urban forest may vary and need to

12:17:24 vary between a business district and a residential district

12:17:27 and industrial site, all those have different criteria for

12:17:32 what they're used for and how they're built out.

12:17:36 And finally, I wanted to let you know that finding and

12:17:39 support for the development of Tampa's urban forest

12:17:41 management plan comes obviously from the City of Tampa, but

12:17:45 also from the U.S. forest service, from the Florida forest

12:17:50 service, from the U.S. environmental protection agency, from

12:17:53 the national science foundation, from the university of

12:17:56 Florida, from the university of South Florida, from

12:17:59 Hillsborough County extension and from the collaborative of

12:18:03 people in the region called the Tampa Bay forest working

12:18:06 group.

12:18:06 So, the funding for all of this work is being supported and

12:18:12 the support is coming from all these different groups all at

12:18:15 the same time, to do the work that we have youth lined for

12:18:18 you this morning.

12:18:19 With that, thank you.




12:18:21 Have any questions, we can answer them now and if you have

12:18:25 any questions, we can give you our e-mail address and you

12:18:29 can get a hold of us.

12:18:30 Call us.

12:18:31 Be glad to answer them.

12:18:33 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilwoman Capin?

12:18:36 >>YVONNE CAPIN: You know there is a second part to this?

12:18:38 Parks and recreation department to provide a staff report on

12:18:41 their findings regarding how to let the public know to take

12:18:45 care of their trees.

12:18:47 >>MARY MULHERN: I thought you had -- you have more?

12:18:50 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yes.

12:18:51 >>MARY MULHERN: How much time do you need Karen?

12:18:53 >> I just need a couple minutes.

12:18:55 I have an executive summary.

12:18:56 You all review that and you have any questions.

12:18:59 >>MARY MULHERN: Any other questions before then?

12:19:15 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Ms. Palus, without reviewing the summary,

12:19:19 one of the reasons that I asked for this part was, I really

12:19:24 became concerned after the hurricane Irene passed through

12:19:32 back in August.

12:19:35 And it went up the east coast.

12:19:37 And 38 people died.

12:19:40 And you know, we know with hurricanes you have warning and

12:19:43 you're able to move away.




12:19:45 Some -- the 38 people that died, 13 people died directly

12:19:50 from tree limbs either falling on their home, their car or

12:19:54 their person, or trees.

12:19:56 That's a very large number.

12:19:58 And that caught my attention because without seeing this,

12:20:05 what I'm looking at and I'm hearing when I go out to

12:20:08 neighborhoods, from constituents, is that to trim some of

12:20:13 these very large trees that are in these yards is sometimes

12:20:20 over a thousand dollars.

12:20:21 For instance, the neighborhood that I live in, the houses

12:20:26 are about 800 square feet.

12:20:28 I have not heard -- I have not seen in five years that I've

12:20:33 lived there anyone trim a tree.

12:20:36 Or pay for it.

12:20:38 So the limbs are just growing.

12:20:41 That is a concern that I have.

12:20:42 We are in a hurricane path.

12:20:45 As was pointed out.

12:20:46 We need to look at who we are here as opposed to other parts

12:20:51 of the country.

12:20:52 And of the 38 that, out of the 38 that died in hurricane

12:20:56 Irene, the 13 were directly fell on their house, their car,

12:21:02 their person.

12:21:04 Killed from 11-year-old to 90-year-old.

12:21:06 And that does not count the power lines that were downed,




12:21:11 that people died from.

12:21:12 This is just direct.

12:21:14 So I'm-I do believe right afterwards, I had asked and I was

12:21:19 told that this was, that there was a meeting just that

12:21:22 morning when I had asked, so I really am looking forward to

12:21:28 this, what you have and how are we going to address this

12:21:32 when I know there are people that can't -- can't trim their

12:21:38 trees.

12:21:39 And they're just growing.

12:21:40 Thank you.

12:21:43 >> Well, thank you.

12:21:44 First of all for the opportunity to share -- just want to

12:21:47 share real briefly.

12:21:48 Just want to share in regards to what we're doing with our

12:21:56 natural resources division of the department, which I

12:21:59 introduced earlier, Cathy back and she has a couple of her

12:22:03 staffer and our forestry examiners that work closely with

12:22:08 the citizenry in Tampa regarding just this past year, we

12:22:10 have done 480 courtesy inspections.

12:22:14 We typically go out, review trees and the right-of-ways an

12:22:19 private property to get those assessments and some guidance

12:22:22 and feedback on what they're able to do regarding their

12:22:26 particular trees.

12:22:27 We have done about 772 grand tree removals and trimming

12:22:32 permits issued this past year.




12:22:33 Again, what our staff does is provide literature and

12:22:36 information and education to those folks so they understand

12:22:38 the process and what can be done.

12:22:40 We speak at all the neighborhood association meetings that

12:22:43 we can, that we're invited to.

12:22:45 So we try to bring out as much information education as

12:22:48 possible.

12:22:49 We participate in the hurricane expo exhibit, again

12:22:53 providing literature, information and guidance on trees and

12:22:57 such.

12:22:57 There's also a lot of other resources via the internet that

12:23:01 are available to our folks.

12:23:03 We have worked with the T.H.A.N. program and their

12:23:07 neighborhood tree watch, which Councilmember Capin, getting

12:23:15 ready to launch throughout all the neighborhoods.

12:23:17 Giving them information again on what to look for awed and

12:23:20 how they become more educated on trees in their

12:23:23 neighborhoods.

12:23:23 And then obviously we work with our code enforcement --

12:23:27 >> Can I stop you on the tree watch program for one second?

12:23:30 A lot of people watch this on Twiggs.

12:23:32 Can you tell them what the number is to call and what

12:23:35 exactly the neighborhood tree watch program is?

12:23:38 Very briefly?

12:23:39 >> It's 874--- tree.




12:23:51 >> Why would they call that number?

12:23:53 >> Cathy is the neighborhood tree watch.

12:23:58 >> Good morning.

12:24:02 Cat Chicago tech, natural resources coordinator with parks

12:24:05 and recreation.

12:24:09 258-tree is the tree hotline.

12:24:13 It is mapped 24/7 for people that have concerns about

12:24:16 illegal tree removal, pruning concerns.

12:24:19 They can call that number.

12:24:21 And -- yes, ma'am.

12:24:26 >>YVONNE CAPIN: You just said something.

12:24:27 It's illegal tree removing.

12:24:29 Is there information on what can be done -- again, I'm

12:24:38 looking at these limbs and I'm looking at a grand trees to

12:24:41 be removed, is anywhere from 4 to $6,000.

12:24:46 I'm looking at these neighborhoods.

12:24:50 We have all over the city, that I know there are people and

12:24:55 they cannot afford to do this, even if their tree is damaged

12:25:01 from, so what -- what alternative do they have?

12:25:05 And will this phone number answer those questions?

12:25:08 >> 258 tree is specifically a hot line to call for concern.

12:25:12 You can call 274-5164 to reach us.

12:25:17 And we can help folks through, to assess and a as a result

12:25:22 their trees four hazard conditions.

12:25:27 We himself work with code enforcement.




12:25:29 Recently you all passed revision to chapter 19 to allow us

12:25:33 to assist code enforcement to require the assessment and

12:25:37 removal of dangerous trees in neighborhoods.

12:25:40 So we went a long way there.

12:25:42 Once that site has been cited by code enforcement, that acts

12:25:48 as the permit.

12:25:49 So they're allowed to remove them immediately.

12:25:51 To address the situation of people that cannot afford them,

12:25:55 again, we can also provide advice on how to maybe do it in

12:25:59 stages, to make at little bit more palatable for their

12:26:04 bullets.

12:26:04 There also is a diversion program in the city.

12:26:07 A very limited diversion program, but we have helped some

12:26:10 citizens through that program.

12:26:13 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I appreciate that.

12:26:14 That's the information that I'm hoping to get out there.

12:26:17 And I do remember the code enforcement where the permit, we

12:26:22 brought it together as opposed to two separate steps.

12:26:25 >> We have issued I think three of those so far.

12:26:28 Since that ordinance was enacted.

12:26:30 >>YVONNE CAPIN: On this finance number to call, is this any

12:26:32 way to put the other phone number on there?

12:26:37 Because if they can't reach the information from the number

12:26:40 you just given, I'm trying -- again user friendly.

12:26:47 >> Those numbers are available on our web site.




12:26:49 We also have a neighborhood watch brochure that has all

12:26:53 those numbers on them.

12:26:54 And we have given out quite a few of those brochures.

12:26:58 We had our partners with Tampa electric publish them and

12:27:02 print them.

12:27:03 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Okay.

12:27:04 Thank you.

12:27:08 >> Thank you, Cathy.

12:27:09 Any other questions?

12:27:13 Just want to thank you all again for your time and thank our

12:27:16 consultant for being here and spending the morning with us.

12:27:19 Appreciate it.

12:27:32 >>MARY MULHERN: Council have any new business?

12:27:35 Councilmember Cohen?

12:27:36 >>HARRY COHEN: No new business.

12:27:38 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilmember Reddick?

12:27:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: No new business.

12:27:41 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilwoman Capin?

12:27:43 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yes.

12:27:43 I'd like to make a motion to [speaking without mic]

12:27:47 commendation on Thursday, December 1 for their efforts

12:27:53 rescuing a kitten trapped.

12:27:57 [Inaudible]

12:28:01 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Their Spruce Street facility over and above.

12:28:04 >> Second.




12:28:04 >> All in favor?

12:28:05 Aye.

12:28:09 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Did you have a time?

12:28:10 >> December 1st.

12:28:12 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I was looking at -- I'd like to talk about

12:28:15 our next workshop meeting is January 26th.

12:28:20 That will be fine.

12:28:21 We'll start the new year.

12:28:22 I attended culture builds Florida with the secretary of

12:28:30 state sponsored here in our lovely, in our wonderful --

12:28:33 brought it to our city.

12:28:35 And that was one component.

12:28:37 The other component, which I attended in Ybor City is the

12:28:43 500 anniversary of our state.

12:28:48 Of the founding, or discovery -- actually first settlement

12:29:01 in the new world was here in Florida.

12:29:02 Or rather in the continental United States and that was 500

12:29:06 years ago.

12:29:06 And it was 1513.

12:29:09 And it will be commenced on 2013.

12:29:13 I'd like to have someone from the Florida Humanities Council

12:29:22 to -- they have agreed, and maybe the secretary of state, to

12:29:26 come down and speak on Florida, League of Florida 500.

12:29:33 It is to be a very big deal.

12:29:34 And it should be.




12:29:35 We were a -- we were a colony a hundred years before

12:29:41 Jamestown.

12:29:42 And I think that needs to be celebrated.

12:29:45 And I'd like to have them come for

12:29:48 January 26th presentation.

12:29:51 During our workshop.

12:29:53 And we can -- I understand there are many grants related to

12:29:58 this.

12:29:58 And the City of Tampa can participate.

12:30:03 >> Second.

12:30:04 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.

12:30:05 >>MARY MULHERN: 10:00 maybe?

12:30:07 We have got a commendation and then your 9:00 workshop.

12:30:12 So 10:00, 10:30?

12:30:16 >> 10:00.

12:30:17 >> Is there a second?

12:30:19 >> Yes.

12:30:19 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?

12:30:20 Aye.

12:30:21 Anyone opposed?

12:30:22 Is that it Councilwoman?

12:30:28 Councilmember Suarez?

12:30:29 >>MIKE SUAREZ: No new business.

12:30:34 >> I forgot something.

12:30:36 >>MARY MULHERN: I'm is over sorry, Councilwoman Montelione,




12:30:40 you have any new business?

12:30:42 >>LISA MONTELIONE: No, I don't.

12:30:43 Thanks for asking.

12:30:45 >>MARY MULHERN: And I have none.

12:30:46 Mr. Shelby?

12:30:51 >> You had moved number 8 on today's agenda to the 17th of

12:30:57 November.

12:30:58 Next week, we have on the agenda discussion of the rules of

12:31:03 procedure to afford Councilmembers to vote remotely on

12:31:08 non-quasi-judicial matters.

12:31:09 I make a request if you can, to also move that to the 17th.

12:31:11 >> I'm not going to be here on the 17th, and I want to

12:31:14 participate in that discussion.

12:31:16 >> Okay.

12:31:18 That will be fine.

12:31:19 My only concern was, my hope was, because I'm going to be

12:31:22 talking about the amendment to the Council's rules on the

12:31:25 17th.

12:31:25 You can move it to another day if you wish.

12:31:28 Can we make --

12:31:33 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilwoman Capin?

12:31:36 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I'm sorry.

12:31:37 I forgot that I wanted to bring something up since this is a

12:31:41 workshop.

12:31:42 On our text amendment cycle.




12:31:44 I'd like to have a workshop to discuss that.

12:31:50 >>MARY MULHERN: Wait.

12:31:52 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Is it possible, Council, and it shouldn't

12:31:54 be an issue and if it is, I'll let Council know next week.

12:31:58 But to have both issues, the one that I had moved earlier on

12:32:01 the QTI to the 17th and the one that's set for next week, on

12:32:05 the remote participation, to have them both moved to

12:32:09 December 1st and hopefully Chairman Miranda certainly would

12:32:13 be back by then as well.

12:32:14 Because that way it would be able to address both at the

12:32:18 same time.

12:32:19 >>MARY MULHERN: I'm getting confused here.

12:32:20 You said December --?

12:32:24 >> 1st.

12:32:24 >>MARY MULHERN: Oh, I'm looking at the wrong month.

12:32:27 That must be the problem.

12:32:28 So you want to have the --

12:32:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Both discussions on amendment to Council

12:32:36 rules, one being with QTI, the other with remote

12:32:41 participation.

12:32:41 And I'll have that presentation and hopefully we'll have a

12:32:43 full Council by then.

12:32:45 And I will have worked closely with economic development and

12:32:48 city attorney's office to be able to present recommendations

12:32:52 to you.




12:32:54 >> I'd make a motion to that effect.

12:32:56 >>MARY MULHERN: The calendar looks pretty good.

12:33:01 >> Second.

12:33:03 >>MARY MULHERN: Motion by Councilman Cohen, seconded by

12:33:06 Councilman Reddick.

12:33:07 All in favor?

12:33:08 Aye.

12:33:08 Anyone opposed?

12:33:10 >> Thank you, Council.

12:33:11 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.

12:33:15 Councilwoman Capin.

12:33:17 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you, Madam Chair.

12:33:18 I'd like to take a look at our text amendment cycle.

12:33:23 We have two a year.

12:33:25 And I believe that was brought forth by another Council.

12:33:31 I'm not sure how many years ago, but I would like to take a

12:33:34 look at the frequency of those, of those cycles.

12:33:42 >>MARY MULHERN: Julia Cole spoke about this -- and Thom

12:33:46 Snelling made that motion to put, put the text amendments --

12:33:52 I don't remember what date that was.

12:33:54 That is I believe November 10th.

12:34:02 >> That's all part of the discussion.

12:34:03 When Cathy comes -- excuse me.

12:34:11 So when Miss Coyle comes to speak to us about the text

12:34:14 amendment process, then we would have that, we would




12:34:19 include -- write your questions down.

12:34:21 Because she's going to make her presentation and then we'll

12:34:23 have the opportunity to ask questions and discuss the cycle.

12:34:31 >>YVONNE CAPIN: In your many lives, were you ever a teacher?

12:34:34 Write down your questions.

12:34:37 >>LISA MONTELIONE: No, but both my siblings are.

12:34:40 >>MARY MULHERN: I think she's bringing text amendment to us,

12:34:44 so if you want to do something that's a workshop or that's

12:34:49 going to take more time, you can bring it up then.

12:34:56 You may have to reschedule a longer period.

12:34:59 >>YVONNE CAPIN: That's fine.

12:35:00 I just want to make sure, bring it up and we start the

12:35:03 discussion on it.

12:35:03 Thank you.

12:35:05 >>MARY MULHERN: So that's -- we don't need a motion to do

12:35:07 that, I don't think.

12:35:08 Do we?

12:35:10 >> No.

12:35:12 >> Unless Councilmembers feel the need to put staff on

12:35:15 notice that's going to be part of the discussion.

12:35:19 >>MARY MULHERN: Do you want to add that?

12:35:20 Okay.

12:35:20 There's a motion by Councilwoman Capin to add the discussion

12:35:24 of our process and schedule of text amendment cycles,

12:35:28 seconded by Councilwoman Montelione.




12:35:30 All in favor?

12:35:31 Aye.

12:35:31 Anyone opposed?

12:35:33 All in favor?

12:35:39 Aye.

12:35:39 We're adjourned.

12:35:41 12:34 p.m.

12:36:28



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