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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL

Thursday, January 26, 2012

9:00 a.m. Workshops

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08:55:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: City Council is called to order.

09:03:09 The chair yields to Ms. Yolie Capin.

09:03:14 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

09:03:15 Good morning.

09:03:15 I am pleased to introduce this morning the invocation

09:03:18 speaker, sister Mary Patricia Plumb who currently serves as

09:03:24 campus minister at the Academy of Holy Names.

09:03:27 Sister Mary Patricia has served as a teacher, vice

09:03:31 principal, principal of many schools and holds a master's

09:03:34 degree in education and supervision from the University of

09:03:36 South Florida.

09:03:38 Sister has also led the Academy on mission trips to

09:03:41 Mississippi for the past eight years with her high school

09:03:44 students.

09:03:45 In the spirit of the upcoming Super Bowl, sister Mary

09:03:49 Patricia has served as coach in the other NFL, the National

09:03:56 Forensic League, a high school honor society for students

09:03:59 who excel in public speaking and debate.

09:04:02 In fact, Sister is in the National League Hall of Fame for

09:04:05 31 years of dedicated service to the Academy of Holy Names.

09:04:09 Please join me in welcome Sister Mary Patricia Plumb in

09:04:13 giving this morning's invocation.

09:04:16 Please remain standing for the pledge of allegiance.

09:04:19 >> Lord, as we know you to be our own heart. You have given

09:04:29 all people one common origin, and your will is to gather us

09:04:33 as a family in yourself.

09:04:36 Fill our hearts with your love and the desire to ensure

09:04:40 justice for all our brothers and sisters. By sharing the

09:04:46 good things you give us, may we secure justice and equality

09:04:51 for every human being, an end to division, and a human

09:04:58 society built open love and peace.

09:05:00 May we work for the progress of all people, and lovingly

09:05:03 bring your work of justice to perfection.

09:05:10 You know the longings of our hearts, and you protect our

09:05:12 rights.

09:05:13 In your goodness, watch over those in authority so that your

09:05:17 people may enjoy freedom, security, and peace.

09:05:22 Accept the course we offer for our nation, and the wisdom of

09:05:26 our leaders and the integrity of our citizens.




09:05:28 May harmony and justice be secured and may there be lasting

09:05:34 prosperity and peace.

09:05:36 We humbly ask for these things in your name.

09:05:39 Amen.

09:05:40 [ Pledge of Allegiance ]

09:06:08 [Roll Call]

09:06:09 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.

09:06:10 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Present.

09:06:13 >>HARRY COHEN: Here.

09:06:15 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Here.

09:06:16 >>MARY MULHERN: Here.

09:06:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Here.

09:06:19 >>FRANK REDDICK: Here.

09:06:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: At this time, Mr. Reddick, would you give

09:06:22 the commendation of the police Officer of the Month and

09:06:24 presentation for firefighter of the quarter?

09:06:27 >> Good morning, Mr. Chair and members of the council.

09:06:47 It's a privilege to stand before you and present our officer

09:06:52 for the month of January 2012.

09:06:56 And this gentleman has done a wonderful job in the city, and

09:07:04 it's an honor to present to him today our Officer of the

09:07:06 Month for the period of January 2012 Officer Sean Mark

09:07:12 Mahabir.

09:07:17 Okay?

09:07:17 >> Thank you, council.




09:07:19 Good morning.

09:07:20 On behalf of Chief Castor who is out of town on business, I

09:07:24 would like to take this moment to kind of qualify officer

09:07:27 Mahabir, and the third leg is cooperative partnerships that

09:07:43 make us a team in public safety, and it's nice that we are

09:07:46 enjoying the company of fire as we look at ourselves as a

09:07:50 public safety team with their department as well.

09:07:53 And that teamwork is exemplified in officer Sean Mahabir.

09:08:03 We are very fortunate with our administration and the

09:08:05 support of council that when we deploy this agency for the

09:08:07 sake of the community that we are allowed to have some

09:08:10 community oriented police officers to do special

09:08:13 relationship building in the community whether it's the

09:08:16 business community or the residential community.

09:08:18 And I am actually here to take a moment to allow Officer

09:08:20 Mahabir, because I think it's worthy of hearing for a

09:08:29 moment.

09:08:29 >> Good morning and thank you.

09:08:33 The perception of crime in Ybor City was a concern of myself

09:08:38 as well as many of the business owners.

09:08:41 After holding several meetings with a majority of the

09:08:43 business owners, in Ybor City, Ybor City business watch

09:08:47 program was created.

09:08:50 The idea has always been there, the business watch.

09:08:53 However, this has some new technological twists to it, along




09:09:00 with having a window sticker that goes on every business

09:09:04 that's registered that is displayed a serial number that

09:09:12 officers can contact business owners about property owners

09:09:14 and business owners and so forth.

09:09:16 The business owners can now communicate with themselves by

09:09:20 an e-mail tree, Facebook and Twitter account.

09:09:23 And that has proven very, very successful.

09:09:27 The kickoff meeting for the business watch was held in Ybor

09:09:30 City, and it was very, very successful, close to over

09:09:36 actually 100 businesses are registered with the business

09:09:40 watch program, and we have had several success stories

09:09:46 because of the implementation of the program.

09:09:48 So much so that the businesses have asked for another

09:09:52 business watch meeting, which will be 3:00 today at the

09:09:57 Hampton Inn.

09:10:00 For those businesses that missed the opportunity to join the

09:10:01 first time, they have asked that I hold a secondary meeting,

09:10:06 and that will happen today.

09:10:12 We are hopeful that this can become a best practice around

09:10:16 the city, not just in Ybor City.

09:10:18 We can look at all the business communities and potentially

09:10:20 have an opportunity to do the same.

09:10:21 So on behalf of Officer Mahabir, Chief Castor, thank you for

09:10:28 this moment to recognize this officer's great effort out in

09:10:31 the community.




09:10:32 Thank you.

09:10:32 >> On behalf of Tampa City Council, we would like to present

09:10:39 you this commendation in recognition.

09:10:43 You have been chosen as Tampa Police Department Officer of

09:10:46 the Month for the period ending January 2012.

09:10:51 Congratulations.

09:11:03 We also want to recognize you with some gifts.

09:11:09 >> Congratulations.

09:11:12 >> Representing Stepp's towing service, on behalf of Jim and

09:11:25 Judy Todd, we would like to present you this small token of

09:11:29 our appreciation, and also I have a gift certificate.

09:11:37 Also, Joe Dirkins from BrightHouse Network wasn't able to be

09:11:42 here today, says he will contact you.

09:11:49 >> I'm Frank DeSoto representing Bill Currie Ford and the

09:11:58 Currie family.

09:12:01 I know what a fine young officer he is, and it's our extreme

09:12:04 pleasure to present Sean with a watch and congratulate you

09:12:09 on a job well done.

09:12:10 Thank you.

09:12:10 >> From the Straz Center, we want to give you tickets to the

09:12:21 show.

09:12:22 >>STEVE MICHELINI: On behalf of Pristine Portraits, we are

09:12:34 going to provide you with a gift certificate for you and

09:12:36 your family to have your portraits taken.

09:12:38 On behalf of Bern's steak house we are going to send you to




09:12:42 have a nice dinner for you.

09:12:44 And congratulations and thank you for what you do.

09:12:53 Thank you so much.

09:12:53 >>FRANK REDDICK: Just keep in mind if you don't want any of

09:13:00 these things -- [ Laughter ]

09:13:05 >> I work with a great team of officers, and they are very

09:13:10 deserving of all of this as well.

09:13:11 I'm honored to receive this award.

09:13:14 And I would just like to thank the chief and the

09:13:16 administration, Tampa Police Department.

09:13:19 This only motivates me to continue my goal of making Ybor a

09:13:24 safer place.

09:13:24 Thank you.

09:13:26 [ Applause ]

09:13:42 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Sean, how long have you been in the Ybor

09:13:46 area?

09:13:46 >> I have been a C.O.P. in that area for three years.

09:13:50 >> Three years.

09:13:52 I met you last April in the Easter egg hunt in Ybor, and

09:13:58 very active in that area.

09:13:59 >> Thank you very much.

09:14:04 >> Firefighter of the quarter.

09:14:08 We have two chiefs here.

09:14:10 And sometime in the next three or four months I will be

09:14:12 calling both of you. Especially the left-handed guy. I




09:14:13 like left-handed pitchers.

09:14:21 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mr. Chairman, at this time we would like

09:14:23 to present firefighter of the quarter for the period of

09:14:26 January 2012, captain Matthew Rametta.

09:14:39 >> Good morning, council, and back to the chair, Councilman.

09:14:44 It is a pleasure to always come before council and present

09:14:46 to you those individuals amongst our organization that is

09:14:50 absolutely gone above and beyond the call of duty, but

09:14:58 particularly among the best of your own peers.

09:15:01 With us this morning we have such an individual, captain

09:15:04 Matt Rametta.

09:15:11 He began his career as a firefighter, quickly within a

09:15:14 matter of years, moving through the ranks of paramedic, and

09:15:17 within that six years was lieutenant on a rescue unit.

09:15:24 Matt served very honorably and on a very busy unit

09:15:27 throughout the City of Tampa as a rescue lieutenant

09:15:30 providing emergency medical and advance live support

09:15:33 services throughout this entire community.

09:15:38 With respect to a very aggressive career in the 12 years

09:15:43 that Matt has been promoted to the rank of captain, and is

09:15:46 serving station number 1, downtown Tampa, which is a

09:15:51 multi-company station with a very diverse run mode, one of

09:15:55 the busiest fire stations in this city, and with respect to

09:16:01 the types of alarms they serve on, it's second to none with

09:16:06 the type of call volume they have as well.




09:16:08 And one of the things that really stands out about Matt is

09:16:12 not deliver of service to this community, but his passion to

09:16:17 do it.

09:16:18 As you see the -- him standing here, he's an absolute giant

09:16:26 as to dealing with the public and dealing with his crew day

09:16:29 in and day out.

09:16:30 That beautiful smile he always has, that great demeanor,

09:16:33 that positive, he projects that in sis service delivery day

09:16:40 in and day out, so much so that even on his days off, coming

09:16:45 out of a very busy station, when we were looking, and we

09:16:50 worked with the captain of the local 754 union, those

09:16:55 youngsters who have been victims of very, very tough issues

09:17:00 regarding fire, every year the Shriners burn, Matt is also a

09:17:15 DJ, has an awesome voice, has a great radio voice, if you

09:17:19 ever need a broadcast caller, this guy here, but he goes out

09:17:32 with these kids and pulls them out of that regular daily

09:17:35 life of recognizing their own individual issues, and he does

09:17:39 music and DJ for them along with other kids, where they

09:17:43 don't worry about their injuries, or they don't worry about

09:17:46 significant emotional things as a result of fire and he does

09:17:53 it at no expense or no cost using his own time just for that

09:17:57 group.

09:17:57 Not only that, Matt, also, realizing and getting a piece of

09:18:04 the metal, a beam from the World Trade Center.

09:18:09 Matt took it upon himself working with the rest of the City




09:18:11 of Tampa's departments, and garnering and getting acceptance

09:18:16 for us to receive a piece of that I-beam.

09:18:19 He wasn't just interested in getting the beam here but he

09:18:24 wanted to pay tribute to those individuals who made the

09:18:26 ultimate sacrifice for that.

09:18:28 So not only, as the beam was on its way back, he was already

09:18:32 coordinating efforts to have a memorial set up at our

09:18:35 firefighter museum to recognize what that beam stood for,

09:18:41 but also for the individuals that gave the ultimate

09:18:45 sacrifice, representatives and external partners as well.

09:18:51 Matt took that on himself.

09:18:53 But day in and day out he provides service delivery to his

09:19:00 crew, to this community, and the greatest demeanor that we

09:19:02 can expect, so it gives me great honor and a pleasure to

09:19:06 present to you, council, and to the City of Tampa, Tampa

09:19:09 Fire Rescue's Firefighter of the Quarter, Captain Matthew

09:19:13 Rametta.

09:19:21 [ Applause ]

09:19:30 >>FRANK REDDICK: On behalf of Tampa City Council, we would

09:19:32 like to present this commendation to you.

09:19:35 You have been selected as Firefighter of the Quarter for the

09:19:37 period ending January 2012.

09:19:41 >> Thank you.

09:19:48 >> Congratulations.

09:19:55 Steve Stickley representing Stepp's towing service on behalf




09:20:00 of Jim and Judy and Todd Stepp, we would like to present

09:20:03 this token of our appreciation to you, and also I have a

09:20:06 gift certificate, and we appreciate everything you do.

09:20:13 Again, Joe Dirkins from BrightHouse Network will be

09:20:17 contacting you.

09:20:19 Make sure you get your awards.

09:20:23 >> DeSoto with Bill Currie Ford, would like to acknowledge

09:20:41 your accomplishments with this watch.

09:20:43 Thank you again.

09:20:44 >>STEVE MICHELINI: There's a little known fact they have a

09:20:49 singing waiter contest.

09:20:53 [ Laughter ]

09:21:00 They are going to make you sing for your supper, is that all

09:21:03 right?

09:21:04 [ Laughter ]

09:21:05 Bern's will be providing with you a $100 gift certificate to

09:21:07 enjoy dinner there, and Prestige Photography will be

09:21:10 providing you with a photographic package for you and your

09:21:12 family.

09:21:13 Congratulations.

09:21:14 >> For you and your wife, Straz Center tickets.

09:21:25 >> All right.

09:21:31 Wow.

09:21:32 Let me first start by thanking my crew.

09:21:36 They nominated me for this award, and for the department




09:21:39 awards committee for choosing me.

09:21:41 I'm honored.

09:21:42 Like the officer said, there's 625 men and women for Tampa

09:21:47 Fire Rescue out there serving every day that are certainly

09:21:50 deserving of this honor, and I'm just humbled to receive it.

09:21:55 I would also like to thank my family for being supportive.

09:22:00 A lot of times we can't be there for Christmas,

09:22:03 Thanksgiving, baseball, softball games, stuff like that.

09:22:10 So it's tough a lot of times for them to understand why

09:22:13 daddy can't be there, but this helps, I think, a little bit

09:22:19 realize the importance of it.

09:22:21 I guess that's about it.

09:22:22 I'm honored to serve with a wonderful department, and sure

09:22:27 we will be serving our butts off when this RNC comes around.

09:22:33 Thank you.

09:22:33 And I'm honored.

09:22:36 [ Applause ]

09:22:38

09:22:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Next is the approval of the agenda.

09:23:37 Any changes to the agenda today?

09:23:41 All right, I need a motion to approve the agenda.

09:23:43 >> So moved.

09:23:43 >> Motion by Mr. Suarez, second by Mrs. Montelione.

09:23:47 All in favor?

09:23:48 Second?




09:23:48 The Ayes have it unanimously.

09:23:50 Next we go to public comments.

09:23:52 And these will be on items 3 and 4 only.

09:23:55 If you would like to speak on 3 and 4:please come forward.

09:23:58 The reason is that the others, 5, 6 and 7 are workshops.

09:24:02 You can speak after the workshops.

09:24:05 So we go to item -- public comments for three minutes on the

09:24:11 agenda.

09:24:13 I see no one.

09:24:15 All right.

09:24:16 We go to committee reports at this time.

09:24:20 Park, recreation, culture committee, Ms. Mary Mulhern.

09:24:25 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

09:24:29 The public arts committee met yesterday and discussed both

09:24:36 of these items, the resolutions, and we are fine with it.

09:24:42 But I just remembered this morning that the speaker could

09:24:49 help us with this.

09:24:50 There was an e-mail from Noel Smith at USF about the name of

09:24:56 the lights project.

09:25:00 At our meeting yesterday, I had forgotten to bring that up.

09:25:03 But I will bring it up with the public arts committee.

09:25:08 I think it was aqua vista?

09:25:19 >> That's correct.

09:25:21 It means nothing in Spanish.

09:25:30 Aqua, water, lights.




09:25:32 >> So what would be a more correct name to call it?

09:25:39 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I was going to suggest, I think Mr. Miranda

09:25:42 of all of us is not only an excellent speaker of Spanish but

09:25:47 I think has a minor in Spanish from college, was it not?

09:25:50 (Speaking Spanish)

09:25:53 >> Mr. Miranda is actually much more educated in terms of

09:26:01 the correctness.

09:26:03 >> What is the Spanish name again?

09:26:08 It means lights of water, water of lights.

09:26:17 >>YVONNE CAPIN: They can work on it.

09:26:19 [ Laughter ]

09:26:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: The head of all department heads, when he

09:26:23 took the job he was 6'7".

09:26:29 >> Good morning.

09:26:30 Santiago Corrada, chief of staff.

09:26:33 The name was researched by our public affairs department

09:26:35 with the mayor, and it was a literal translation of water

09:26:40 lights, or lights on water, aqua water, lights.

09:26:47 It was just a preferable name to call it based on

09:26:49 conversations that were had.

09:26:51 It's a literal translation of water lights.

09:26:54 Lights on the bridges and they are reflected off of the

09:26:56 water.

09:26:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have to agree with that.

09:26:59 Let me tell you why. We had a mayor who spoke only Spanish




09:27:02 a long time ago named Nick Nuccio.

09:27:05 He would love that saying that you just quoted because we

09:27:10 made up our own language.

09:27:12 (Speaking Spanish)

09:27:13 Those things are not in any Hispanic dictionary.

09:27:16 That means the bus driver.

09:27:21 Caton is a curb.

09:27:23 Nick couldn't -- Nick couldn't say it so they made up a

09:27:28 Chevrolet.

09:27:28 Everybody knows what a Chevrolet is.

09:27:30 He couldn't say it.

09:27:31 So we named it (Spanish).

09:27:37 He couldn't say the word Ford so we named it (Spanish).

09:27:44 I would like to get along with that.

09:27:47 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you for bringing that up.

09:27:49 It is colloquial, as 7th Avenue which is Septima is

09:27:56 colloquial.

09:27:57 We'll keep it as Ybor Spanglish.

09:28:00 >> Again, respectfully request your support of both of these

09:28:05 items.

09:28:06 We are anxious to move along.

09:28:07 And, in fact, we are hopeful that when these bridges are

09:28:11 lit, and in the process of lighting these bridges, others

09:28:14 will step forward with private sponsorship because

09:28:17 eventually we like to light all eight structures in the




09:28:20 downtown area including the Harbor Island bridge,

09:28:23 beneficial, as well as all streets and some of the Crosstown

09:28:27 overpasses that are in the downtown area, so eventually we

09:28:30 would like all to be artistically lit and we are anxious to

09:28:35 get moving.

09:28:35 >>MARY MULHERN: I move item number 3 and 4.

09:28:38 >> Second.

09:28:41 >>HARRY COHEN: I just wanted to ask one question.

09:28:45 And I'm obviously very excited about this project and I

09:28:49 think it's going do marvelous things for downtown.

09:28:52 Just for clarification, though, how is the power cost going

09:28:57 to be paid?

09:28:58 Is the city going to be paying that?

09:28:59 And how much will that be on an annual basis?

09:29:04 >>> That's part of the scope of would, for Dear Production,

09:29:07 Inc., for light and the fought maintenance cost for the

09:29:12 light and we will be responsible for those cost and we'll

09:29:15 have a better grip as we start working with Tracy dear on

09:29:19 the lighting.

09:29:21 The costs have come down considerably.

09:29:23 The technology is so much better than when he was involved

09:29:26 in some of the bridge lightings in Chicago.

09:29:28 So the costs of maintenance replacement has come way down.

09:29:33 >>HARRY COHEN: Are you going to be able to share that cost

09:29:37 with us when we find out what it is?




09:29:40 >> Absolutely.

09:29:40 We need to come back to you with another contract for the

09:29:42 installation so we will be able to share that information.

09:29:45 We may have to come back to you for agreements with CSX,

09:29:49 FDOT and the county, as well to install the lighting

09:29:52 features.

09:29:53 So we will be having lots of conversations with you as we

09:29:55 move forward in this process.

09:29:57 Thank you.

09:29:57 >> Any other questions?

09:30:01 Ms. Capin?

09:30:03 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I just want to thank you, Councilman Cohen,

09:30:06 for asking that.

09:30:06 That was on my mind.

09:30:07 So maintenance will be coming forward.

09:30:10 That is our responsibility.

09:30:11 >> It will be.

09:30:14 >> Okay.

09:30:15 Thank you.

09:30:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion made by Ms. Mulhern on 3

09:30:19 and 4, seconded by Mr. Suarez, I believe, on a close vote

09:30:24 with two or three council members.

09:30:26 Let me take for the record one at a time.

09:30:31 I am going to take 3 first.

09:30:32 All in favor of that motion indicate by saying aye.




09:30:35 Opposed?

09:30:35 The Ayes have it unanimously.

09:30:36 Ms. Muscle Vernon number 4, second bid Mr. Suarez.

09:30:41 A vote on 4.

09:30:42 All in favor indicate by saying aye.

09:30:45 Opposed, nay.

09:30:46 The Ayes have it unanimously.

09:30:49 Thank you all very much for attending.

09:30:55 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I see Robin Nigh out there.

09:30:56 And if we can take one minute to ask her one question that's

09:31:01 really important, doing the cultural assets workshop, the

09:31:08 consortium, the national endowment of the arts.

09:31:12 I know that Robin participated.

09:31:14 I would like to know what the outcome was of applying for

09:31:17 the grants that are millions of dollars coming to different

09:31:24 cities.

09:31:26 If you will indulge me.

09:31:28 Thank you.

09:31:28 >> Robin Nigh, program division.

09:31:32 We submitted an entrance to the arts consortium, a

09:31:41 consortium of I believe seven federal agencies as well as 15

09:31:45 private foundations, and they had received well over or

09:31:47 close to $800 million in requests and ours was a small

09:31:53 portion of that.

09:31:54 And they put only 35 million in funding. So we were not




09:31:58 asked to proceed at this particular point.

09:32:00 We were asked to reapply or take a Webinar in June which we

09:32:05 will certainly do.

09:32:08 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.

09:32:08 I would love an update in June.

09:32:10 It would be very helpful.

09:32:12 I know this would be an excellent program.

09:32:15 And they see the arts as title from the New York Times,

09:32:21 consortium, view the arts as engines of recovery.

09:32:25 Thank you.

09:32:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.

09:32:28 Now we go to items 5, 6 and 7, and the public will be

09:32:33 invited to speak after the public hearing.

09:32:38 Comments for the workshop.

09:32:39 I need a motion to open the workshop.

09:32:41 Moved by Mr. Reddick, second by Mrs. Montelione.

09:32:44 All in favor?

09:32:45 Opposed?

09:32:45 The Ayes have it unanimously.

09:32:47 5, 6 and 7 are now open.

09:32:49 We go to item number 5.

09:32:52 >> Gregory Hart, manager, minority business development and

09:33:09 small business development office.

09:33:12 I am pleased to be before you today to present the city's

09:33:17 annual report on the utilization and availability of small




09:33:21 businesses and women and minority owned businesses.

09:33:24 But before I get into the slide presentation, if I could,

09:33:28 recognize members of your equal business opportunity

09:33:32 advisory committee.

09:33:33 I'm not sure whether any of them might have to excuse

09:33:38 themselves as we go through our presentation.

09:33:40 So with that, I would like to acknowledge vice chair Cathy

09:33:48 Byrd, Michelle Maynor and Mr. Eric Rapt.

09:33:57 At the conclusion of the presentation we are going to afford

09:33:59 them an opportunity to bring forward comments or have any

09:34:01 conversation with you with regard to our working with them

09:34:05 and their input on our program and report.

09:34:12 If I might have the PowerPoint, please.

09:34:16 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Before you start your PowerPoint, I put

09:34:24 it out on the Web site just yesterday.

09:34:28 The members of the EBOAC, as we call it, and I am not sure

09:34:41 the Web site is up to date.

09:34:42 I am looking at the terms of expired members and mentioned

09:34:49 Eric, and says your term expires September 30 of 2011.

09:34:56 And then there is Michelle mayner also expired September

09:35:03 3rd, 2011.

09:35:04 And we have got John Simon, Jr., expired 9-30-2011.

09:35:11 A then there's one two, three, four members that will be

09:35:15 expiring on February 20th.

09:35:19 Is that accurate?




09:35:20 >> I believe the Web site -- I believe it is fairly

09:35:25 accurate.

09:35:26 There are members who will be up for reappointment in a

09:35:32 month or two, and then there are at least two, perhaps three

09:35:36 who, in the transition, will be presented to either the

09:35:41 mayor or yourselves for consideration, so I believe that is

09:35:47 correct.

09:35:47 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I wanted to check because it was after

09:35:50 we met yesterday, and I went back and pulled the list, and I

09:35:54 noticed we either have expired members or ones that are

09:35:57 coming up next time.

09:35:57 >> Yes, ma'am.

09:36:01 And the rule of thumb, those individuals, until we can get

09:36:05 their reappointments to you or the mayor, they are expected

09:36:09 to continue to serve.

09:36:11 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So anyone else out there that's

09:36:14 listening, if you want to apply, if you want to sit on the

09:36:18 Equal Opportunity Business -- Equal Business Opportunity

09:36:22 Advisory Council, they can contact you, the mayor's office,

09:36:29 City Council's office.

09:36:30 >> My suggestion would be as with any of your boards or

09:36:34 commissions, the clerk's office will do its required posting

09:36:39 and notification, and that will take care of that outreach

09:36:44 or notification process.

09:36:45 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.




09:36:48 I just wanted before you launched into the whole

09:36:51 presentation.

09:36:51 >> Thank you.

09:36:55 If we might have the PowerPoint, please.

09:36:57 Again, we are before you today for the annual report on the

09:37:00 utilization, availability of small businesses, and women and

09:37:03 minority businesses.

09:37:05 I am going to spend just a little bit of time providing some

09:37:10 introduction as well as background information so that as

09:37:16 the information is presented in terms of data is some

09:37:22 reference to where we have been and where we are going, so

09:37:25 to speak.

09:37:27 First of all, we have an ordinance, which is ordinance

09:37:32 2008-89 which requires developing reports that measure the

09:37:36 availability and utilization of certified small local

09:37:40 business enterprises and women minority business enterprise

09:37:46 vendors.

09:37:47 That's on the basis of categories, all contract awards and

09:37:52 actual dollars paid to the vendors.

09:37:55 This annual report is the fourth report under the new

09:37:59 guidelines and the methodology established by city

09:38:02 ordinance.

09:38:04 That's the fourth year as a mail stone.

09:38:07 And I will speak more to that.

09:38:08 So what we are going to do is provide just a snapshot of




09:38:13 fiscal year 2011 with regard to small business and women in

09:38:17 minority business utilization payments.

09:38:19 And then, more importantly, which is our you are primary

09:38:23 focus, we are going to look at some data, some statistics on

09:38:27 accumulative analysis of utilization, which will cover

09:38:31 fiscal years 2008 through 2011.

09:38:38 Just a little bit of background.

09:38:41 The city's program, as is the case with most if not all

09:38:45 local governments who are up to speed on the most recent

09:38:50 best practices and judicial guide lanes, our program also is

09:38:54 based upon Supreme Court and lower court rulings.

09:38:59 Those rulings imposed very strict guidelines and new

09:39:03 standard, which local governments must apply when

09:39:06 administering policies to increase women and minority

09:39:09 business contracting.

09:39:12 Specifically, current judicial standards provide that a

09:39:14 comprehensive, factual basis must be established prior to

09:39:19 enacting gender and ethnic based remedies to promote

09:39:23 increased business with women and minority business

09:39:25 enterprises.

09:39:27 And one of the methods for the principle methods that the

09:39:32 guidance provides, a disparity study, is used to establish

09:39:36 the required factual predicate.

09:39:39 And essentially, as you know, and for the public, especially

09:39:45 the study is more or less an audit of the activity.




09:39:51 Thanks to recommendations from the disparity study that the

09:39:54 city conducted -- and we also had input from a citizen task

09:39:59 force -- there was an ordinance that was crafted and passed,

09:40:04 and that is the 2008-89 ordinance.

09:40:09 It was enacted in July 2008.

09:40:10 The ordinance in a nutshell established the SBE or

09:40:17 reaffirmed the SLBE program, the small local business

09:40:20 enterprise program participation initiatives.

09:40:23 That is an ethnic and gender neutral policy.

09:40:28 It also reaffirmed and established the women minority

09:40:33 business enterprise program of participation.

09:40:36 Elements of that program when it's enacted under some of the

09:40:39 judicial guidelines, it can be and is an ethnic and

09:40:43 gender-specific program.

09:40:48 So it stipulates that use of ethnic and gender contract

09:40:54 goals must be based on multiyear statistical evidence and on

09:40:58 the current legal basis.

09:41:01 I want to go over just a key terminology that will be

09:41:06 helpful as we go through some of the data.

09:41:08 When we speak of availability, we are talking about

09:41:10 companies, all companies that express interest in doing

09:41:13 business with the City of Tampa.

09:41:15 These cones are considered to be ready, willing and able to

09:41:19 perform contracts.

09:41:22 Utilization is referring to actual payments made to vendors,




09:41:29 primes, subcontractors, actual payments, not IOUs or

09:41:37 promises.

09:41:37 When we speak of utilization we talk about actual payments,

09:41:40 and of course capacity is the company that we engage has the

09:41:44 requisite credentials to perform contract services that they

09:41:49 are solicited and contracted to perform.

09:41:53 I mentioned just a second ago that ethnic neutral programs

09:41:57 and gender neutral programs are under the SLBE banner, and

09:42:05 the small local business is based on size, revenues, and

09:42:08 location.

09:42:11 Nearly tailored initiatives, we are really referring to

09:42:14 women and minority business enterprise initiatives.

09:42:18 And the initiatives for the most part are very specific and

09:42:22 take corrective action to address the disparate of

09:42:27 utilization of women and minority businesses.

09:42:30 Then the DMI, diversity management information, it is the

09:42:35 city-wide process our office uses to collect, track and

09:42:40 analyze utilization and availability.

09:42:42 That methodology is very important.

09:42:44 It is the core of what we do to analyze utilization

09:42:50 availability of companies.

09:42:52 DMI represents contracts awarded in the fiscal years

09:42:57 analyzed.

09:42:57 Utilization dollars represent actual expenditures for

09:43:01 contracts awarded in those fiscal years that we are




09:43:05 analyzing.

09:43:06 DMI basically collects the data information, the automation,

09:43:11 and the report formats or frameworks for all of the contract

09:43:15 activity.

09:43:17 So DMI incorporates our business process, both the WME and

09:43:23 SLBE program.

09:43:27 DMI promulgates our administrative and policies and

09:43:30 procedures.

09:43:32 And it the key to managing our data collection, verifying

09:43:36 what's going on, and tracking procurement.

09:43:50 The illustration before you now illustrates the mechanics of

09:43:52 the data collection under the DMI tracking process.

09:43:58 And, if you will, the database source, that's simply our

09:44:04 pulling or extracting all kinds of information from all of

09:44:08 the city's business systems.

09:44:11 Those business systems would include your financial

09:44:14 accounting system referred to by the acronym, the purchasing

09:44:22 procurement business system or software system.

09:44:25 We pull data from peoplesoft.

09:44:28 We pull data from our vendor eligibility tracking system.

09:44:32 And demand star as well.

09:44:34 Demand star is the electronic notification system that many

09:44:39 governments, state, local and federal use for electronic

09:44:44 solicitation procurement.

09:44:46 All of that information with regard to bids awarded, prime




09:44:51 contracts and subcontract company names, that information is

09:44:56 filtered through the five industry categories, the middle

09:45:06 barrels, if you will.

09:45:07 So we filter all of that information through the business

09:45:10 systems through the five industry categories.

09:45:13 And as a result of that, we are going to evaluate the

09:45:15 availability and utilization of these women and minority

09:45:18 firms and small businesses, and the outcome of that

09:45:23 evaluation is that over 180 reports are generated.

09:45:29 And it is those reports that we condense into what I'm about

09:45:34 to present to you in just a minute with regard to what the

09:45:37 data tells us.

09:45:42 This chart, flow chart, it's showing the process and events

09:45:49 that determine program initiatives through our office,

09:45:56 through the data, should be changed, policy adjustments can

09:46:00 be made.

09:46:02 If you look at the first box -- this also illustrates more

09:46:05 or less all of the functional activities within your small

09:46:08 business minority business development office.

09:46:13 The first chart or box represents all ten ethnic and gender

09:46:17 availability and utilization classifications.

09:46:20 Where it says SLBE, within that we have all of our ethnic

09:46:25 minority classifications.

09:46:26 This is where we do our business outreach or certifications.

09:46:32 The community engagement and business development.




09:46:36 The second box represents the data collected from these

09:46:39 groups through DMI.

09:46:42 And after that data is collected, reports are created

09:46:46 through DMI to analyze if disparate exists.

09:46:50 That would be that fourth box.

09:46:51 If no disparity is found, then we continue our SLB program

09:46:59 initiatives.

09:47:00 The lower boxes, if there is disparate, i.e.,

09:47:05 underutilization, then a legal review is required, and any

09:47:08 policy changes that we recommend or implement before doing

09:47:13 so, we have to ensure that they are addressing specifically

09:47:17 the category in the group that's being effected, not

09:47:22 holistically, and not everyone want the.

09:47:31 Very quickly, kind of touched on it, the eligibility

09:47:33 requirements for the small local business enterprise

09:47:36 program, if you want to be certified as a small business,

09:47:39 your business must be in Tampa's market area.

09:47:43 Our market area is defined as Hillsborough, Pinellas, Polk,

09:47:48 Pasco and Manatee counties, all contiguous counties around

09:47:52 the City of Tampa.

09:47:53 The owner must be a permanent resident of Florida.

09:47:56 And that business must have 25 or fewer employees.

09:48:01 The annual gross revenue of that company cannot exceed $2

09:48:05 million averaged over a three-year period.

09:48:10 And this is where SLBE is the process or one of the program




09:48:21 components with sheltered procurement.

09:48:25 I will get into that later.

09:48:26 The women and business eligibility requirements requires

09:48:29 that that business be owned and operated 51% by either a

09:48:36 woman or ethnic minority, and they must have unilateral

09:48:41 control.

09:48:42 They must be Florida domiciled, the business, and under the

09:48:48 WMBE program initiatives, again, right now, there's no legal

09:48:55 basis for mandatory WMBE goals.

09:49:00 The availability utilization analysis must be done over

09:49:03 multi-years, and depending upon the outcomes of that

09:49:06 analysis, any new initiatives that are gender and ethnic

09:49:12 specific requires that the be done under a very strict and

09:49:16 narrowly tailored fashion.

09:49:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Ms. Montelione has a question.

09:49:24 >>LISA MONTELIONE: When you say right now, there is no

09:49:31 reason to kick in the WMBE goals, does that mean before we

09:49:40 analyze the data?

09:49:43 >> I guess right now I meant to say that currently we are

09:49:47 not applying women and minority specific subcontract --

09:49:55 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That's because we haven't implemented

09:49:58 based on --

09:50:01 >> It's because the disparity study in 2008 -- and maybe I

09:50:06 skipped over it or didn't emphasize it -- the disparity

09:50:09 study findings concluded that there was no disparity




09:50:15 underutilization of women and minority-owned companies in

09:50:18 the area of subcontracting.

09:50:21 Prior to the disparity study, the city was applying race

09:50:25 conscious and gender conscious subcontract goals in all of

09:50:28 its procurement activity.

09:50:31 The disparity study concluded that the city was successfully

09:50:36 including women and minority companies subcontracting, and

09:50:40 therefore we had to suspend the application for applying

09:50:45 subcontract goals that were race and gender conscious, too,

09:50:48 to our procurement which is where we are right now.

09:50:53 And until we collect, compile and analyze multi-years of

09:50:57 data, which we are about to discuss, you have to refrain

09:51:04 from reactivating those kind of race and gender conscious

09:51:08 initiatives.

09:51:10 So that's what I meant by right now.

09:51:14 The disparity study did, however, conclude that at the prime

09:51:19 contracting level, there is disparate, meaning that those

09:51:23 contracts that are let between the city directly with the

09:51:28 contractor, that there is underutilization with our women

09:51:34 and minority-owned firms.

09:51:35 And we will get into specifics about that.

09:51:43 So I want to address the data elements that are going to be

09:51:50 driving the analysis of the statistics.

09:51:52 First, all competitively bid procurement is separated into

09:52:00 four utilization areas.




09:52:01 We are going to be looking at small bowl prime contract

09:52:04 activity, the small local business subcontract activity, and

09:52:09 also going to look of course at the women and minority prime

09:52:11 contract, women and minority business subcontract activity.

09:52:16 Continuing with the data elements, each utilization area is

09:52:20 x-rayed of the five industry categories.

09:52:22 Again, construction, professional services,

09:52:26 construction-related services, non-professional services,

09:52:29 and goods.

09:52:30 And for our listening audience, and for those present today,

09:52:35 construction would include things like capital improvements,

09:52:39 renovations, utilities, facility and road repairs, major

09:52:47 brick and mortar kinds of activities.

09:52:49 Construction-related services is defined by the City of

09:52:53 Tampa, would include contracts that engage architects,

09:52:57 engineers, survey, mapping, technical professionals.

09:53:03 Professional services includes things like attorneys, land

09:53:08 use, consultants, accountants, and medical insurance kinds

09:53:14 of agencies, nonprofessional services would include

09:53:17 businesses that engage in landscape maintenance, mowing,

09:53:21 printing services, security services, janitorial, things of

09:53:24 that nature.

09:53:25 And of course goods would be equipment, machinery, and

09:53:27 miscellaneous supplies and materials.

09:53:31 Continuing with some of the data elements that are critical




09:53:36 to understand.

09:53:37 Prime contract data separated by two dollar thresholds, the

09:53:43 first being prime contracts, $500,000 and below.

09:53:48 The second being prime contracts $25,000 and below.

09:53:52 And I would like to note that 97%, approximately 97% of all

09:54:00 city contracts have a value of $500,000 or less.

09:54:07 And of that set, 86% approximately of those contracts

09:54:12 actually fall below $25,000.

09:54:17 A and so forth.

09:54:19 The informal category.

09:54:20 $25,000 or below is considered unformal contracting.

09:54:23 A lot of those procurements are done through quotes, through

09:54:26 the electronic notification system, and are not necessarily

09:54:31 bid formally, where they are in publications or papers, but

09:54:41 go into demand star.

09:54:42 The disparate analysis we are going to talk about is done

09:54:45 within those two threshold, and that's because the majority

09:54:50 of city contracts are small by industry standard.

09:54:54 And the average contract requires minimal capacity to

09:54:57 perform.

09:54:59 So what does that many?

09:55:01 It means two things.

09:55:03 Historical data indicates that women and minority business

09:55:07 enter praises in our market area can bid and have bid at

09:55:13 these threshold.




09:55:14 That's where we are going to analyze the disparate.

09:55:29 To some of the data, we are going to look at it in a pie

09:55:33 chart manner.

09:55:34 And first I am going to give you a snapshot of what happened

09:55:38 in 2011.

09:55:41 And then following each one of these slides, I am going to

09:55:43 give you the critical data which is before your cumulative

09:55:49 analysis.

09:55:49 First let's look at our SBE program, the small local

09:55:53 business program.

09:55:54 So the following information is going to be in the context

09:55:57 of the initiatives that occur within the SBE program.

09:56:01 That will include things like sheltered marketing, sheltered

09:56:04 marketing is where the city will -- if we have three or

09:56:11 mower SBE firms, we are going to allow those small

09:56:15 businesses to compete among their peers.

09:56:17 That's what sheltered is.

09:56:19 The information is going to be in the context of the SBE

09:56:22 program.

09:56:23 In this particular slide, we are looking at all five

09:56:26 industry categories, only through the year 2011.

09:56:29 And as you can see, WMBE firms received 33% of all dollars

09:56:37 that were paid to SBEs at the prime level across all five

09:56:44 industry categories.

09:56:45 And the next slide is looking at the four-year cumulative




09:56:49 result, again within the SBE program.

09:56:52 WBE firms receive 57% of all dollars paid to SBE certified

09:57:01 companies.

09:57:04 This slide, we are looking at subcontract activity.

09:57:09 This is where we set subcontract goals on all procurement

09:57:14 that lends itself to subcontracting.

09:57:16 And so in 2011, WMBE firms receive 50% -- 56% of payments

09:57:25 that were made to SBEs, SLBEs.

09:57:31 Four-year cumulative analysis revealed that WMBE firms

09:57:36 received 83% of every dollar paid to SBE firms.

09:57:43 So WMBE participation as dual certified small businesses has

09:57:50 been consistently high. So what can we conclude from our

09:57:58 SLBE program initiatives?

09:58:01 We can conclude, wave concluded that the small local

09:58:04 business enterprise program, subcontract goal setting

09:58:09 initiatives and sheltered prime contract initiatives have

09:58:12 effectively provided equitable opportunities for WMBE firms.

09:58:17 Over 57% are in fact WMBE companies.

09:58:24 Likewise, 83% of all dollars to SBE firms subcontracting are

09:58:31 WMBE firms.

09:58:33 Yes, sir?

09:58:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Council or Reddick.

09:58:37 >>FRANK REDDICK: I want to state this for clarity so that

09:58:40 people who are watching this at home do not know what WMBE

09:58:46 and SLBE, would you state what they stand for?




09:58:52 For the person at home, we keep saying WMBE.

09:58:56 They might be wondering what you are talking about.

09:58:58 Just for clarity.

09:58:58 >> Again, to reiterate that, SLBE is an acronym for a small

09:59:09 local business company or firm.

09:59:11 WMBE is a company that is women-owned for ethnic minority

09:59:19 owned, be it African-American owned company, be it Hispanic

09:59:22 business owned company, Asian or Native American.

09:59:27 And the SLBE designation is received or awarded if he will

09:59:35 eligible without regard to your gender or ethnicities.

09:59:39 It's based on business size.

09:59:41 Whereas the woman and ethnic minority owned company

09:59:45 certification is in fact a solely owned, whether or not you

09:59:50 as a female own and operate that company, or as an ethnic

09:59:55 minority have unilateral control of that company.

09:59:58 And you have financial stake.

10:00:00 So I hope that will help the public.

10:00:03 >> Mr. Hart, WMBE is women and minority business enterprise.

10:00:17 >> Yes.

10:00:19 >> Very good question.

10:00:20 Councilwoman Capin?

10:00:22 >>YVONNE CAPIN: And small local business enterprise, local

10:00:24 means -- the local area?

10:00:27 Local business?

10:00:28 >> Local means -- correct -- that the business must be in




10:00:31 our market area.

10:00:33 Our market area being the contiguous counties.

10:00:36 Hillsborough, Pinellas, Pasco, Manatee, and Polk.

10:00:49 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.

10:00:52 >>> We just looked at the SLBE program, shelter marketing,

10:00:58 subcontracting activity.

10:00:59 Now I am going to look at the WMBE program.

10:01:08 And beginning with what occurred in 2011 with regard to

10:01:12 payments to prime contractors who were WMBE certified, all

10:01:17 dollars, not looking at the thresholds yet.

10:01:20 And you will see here with MBE firms received 2% of payments

10:01:27 made all prime contractors in 2011.

10:01:33 The four year cumulative review of that activity under the

10:01:44 WMBE program, WMBEs received 5% of all dollars paid to

10:01:53 contractors at the prime level, all dollars, over the course

10:02:00 of the four-year period.

10:02:07 This slide is going to look at WMBE payments within that

10:02:12 first threshold that I spoke of, the $500,000 and the low

10:02:17 threshold which is where we have the dominance of contract

10:02:20 activity.

10:02:22 WMBEs receive 10% of all dollars paid under all five

10:02:28 industry categories within the threshold of $500,000 or

10:02:32 below.

10:02:33 In looking at the four-year cumulative, women and minority

10:02:41 business enterprises receive 12% of all dollars paid at the




10:02:47 prime level under all five of the industry categories at the

10:02:52 level of $500,000 or below.

10:03:01 At that $25,000 threshold, women, minority businesses

10:03:05 accounted for 9% of all payments within those informal

10:03:11 procurements that had a value of $25 that you or below.

10:03:15 25,000 or below.

10:03:18 Four year cumulative result, WMBE firms received 9% of all

10:03:24 dollars paid to prime contractors at the informal threshold

10:03:29 of $25,000 or less.

10:03:31 Looking at subcontracting, for 2011 only, WMBE firms

10:03:43 received 21% of all dollars paid to subcontractors across

10:03:50 the five industry categories.

10:03:56 Four year cumulative results of our analysis, approximately

10:04:01 20% of all payments to subcontractors over the four-year

10:04:08 period went to WMBE firms.

10:04:15 So what can I surmise from that data?

10:04:21 Well, a couple of things.

10:04:23 What we just looked at in those numbers represented

10:04:31 aggregate or holistic WMBE without perform a disparate

10:04:41 analysis.

10:04:41 We were simply looking at data on face value.

10:04:46 It represents a comparative view of WMBE procurement to all

10:04:52 payments and simply that.

10:04:55 It represents an obsolete or old methodology of analysis for

10:05:04 looking at WMBE payments.




10:05:07 The best practice is the judicial guide says you can no

10:05:11 longer look at women and minority business enterprise

10:05:14 participation without taking into consideration other

10:05:17 variables, other conditions and factors.

10:05:22 So the data we justified just looked at does not account for

10:05:25 variables such as availability of companies, the categories

10:05:29 of services, they have the discipline and the requisite lay

10:05:34 senses to perform in, look at capacity, and certainly didn't

10:05:38 apply the required detailed statistical analysis.

10:05:43 So we are going to take that data and apply all those things

10:05:46 and see how we look.

10:05:50 So we are going to now look at the key utilization results,

10:05:56 applying the disparate, statistical analysis and the

10:06:00 thresholds.

10:06:01 >> Thank you.

10:06:05 Before you go on, I am going to go all the way back here to

10:06:10 the numbers.

10:06:13 And I am just curious.

10:06:21 I'm sorry.

10:06:38 I should have tabbed it.

10:06:40 I'm so sorry.

10:06:40 >> Not at all.

10:06:42 It's a workshop.

10:06:52 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Maybe I went one more.

10:06:54 Oh, here it is.




10:06:55 I have a total, the total was $60 million.

10:07:00 No?

10:07:01 >> Can you share with me the --

10:07:05 >> 60 million.

10:07:07 The heading is the WMBE program, all five categories.

10:07:13 >> Yes, ma'am.

10:07:17 >>YVONNE CAPIN: $60 million.

10:07:19 That is not the 500,000 threshold.

10:07:23 That's everything.

10:07:23 >> That is correct.

10:07:27 But it's everything for 2011.

10:07:31 >>YVONNE CAPIN: For 2011.

10:07:35 Then I have the next page, the total --

10:07:41 >>> That's correct.

10:07:42 >>YVONNE CAPIN: -- was 5%.

10:07:47 I wanted to ask you, I have got a number of 11 million.

10:07:51 Where did I get 11?

10:07:53 11 million was total paid.

10:08:00 I didn't tab it.

10:08:02 Here it is.

10:08:04 The WMBE program, that would be page 23.

10:08:08 So we have page 21 which states the $60 million of total

10:08:12 payments.

10:08:13 And then 500,000 category was 11,500,000 and change.

10:08:21 Right?




10:08:21 >> Correct.

10:08:22 >> What I am curious about if 90-some percent is under 500

10:08:27 that you or less, 11 million is not 90% of 60 million.

10:08:33 >>> And that would be correct.

10:08:37 We say 97% referring to the number of contractors which

10:08:43 doesn't necessarily equate to the dollar value contracts.

10:08:47 If I am not mistaken -- and I will ask my lead application

10:08:51 analyst -- I believe somewhere around 20% of the dollars

10:09:00 fall within the 500 or less category.

10:09:06 20%.

10:09:12 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Well, we will go on and maybe it will

10:09:14 explain it.

10:09:15 I gist saw those numbers and thought when I heard the 96%

10:09:19 under 500, that didn't register.

10:09:24 >> Not to belabor it but I will ask Joe Kravero, the lead

10:09:33 analyst in my office if he wants to add clarity.

10:09:35 >> There's two analyses here.

10:09:38 There's the total percentage of contracts within a

10:09:40 particular dollar range.

10:09:42 But the dollars don't necessarily equate the same as the

10:09:46 number of contracts.

10:09:48 So what we are saying is that although 97% of all the

10:09:53 contracts that go out to the city for a particular period of

10:09:57 study, that does not constitute 96% of the dollars in this

10:10:04 case for the $500 that you or less.




10:10:07 It's 20% of all the dollars.

10:10:10 So although we have got a bunch of opportunities that run

10:10:13 underneath that dollar value, only 20% of those dollars are

10:10:18 running through those opportunities.

10:10:19 Okay?

10:10:20 Does that help?

10:10:21 >>YVONNE CAPIN: That helps.

10:10:22 Thank you.

10:10:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Ms. Mulhern.

10:10:25 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

10:10:28 Thank you, Councilwoman Capin, because that's tying it to

10:10:33 the essence of looking at the real total picture of where we

10:10:38 are spending our money, and if we are spending it.

10:10:41 So I have kind of a follow-up question on that while we are

10:10:45 talking about it.

10:10:47 That speaks to the WMBE, the women and minority business.

10:10:51 But when you look at going back to the earlier part of your

10:10:57 presentation, when you talk about small local businesses,

10:11:05 and whichever page that -- we are talking about how we split

10:11:08 up the pie.

10:11:09 So if we are talking about, as Councilwoman Capin pointed

10:11:13 out, percentage number of contracts as opposed to dollar

10:11:18 amounts.

10:11:21 Do we have an illustration of the dollar amount that we are

10:11:26 spending on local business contracts as small and local




10:11:32 business compared to our total spending dollar amounts?

10:11:37 Not percentage of the number of contracts, but percentage

10:11:42 dollar amount.

10:11:43 Do we have that?

10:11:48 >> Let me explain a couple things.

10:11:49 I know the analysis you want.

10:11:51 But we are dealing with payments.

10:11:52 What happens within the realm of all these dollars we are

10:11:57 talking about. So in prayer years we could tell you the

10:12:02 exact percentage.

10:12:02 I have the report for those.

10:12:03 I don't have them right now.

10:12:05 I can get them to you as requested.

10:12:08 Small SLBE dollars in all the contracts, it's relatively

10:12:13 small.

10:12:13 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That's what I want to know.

10:12:17 >> Within the 20% to begin with, because it's only $200 that

10:12:20 you or less.

10:12:21 So we are looking at all contracts that were estimated less

10:12:25 than 200,000, and of those in order for us to shelter them,

10:12:30 we have to have three companies that have the requisite

10:12:34 skills or services to be able to shelter that.

10:12:38 So as those conditions come down, the numbers become less,

10:12:42 because we don't have three companies in every service or

10:12:46 every category the city is --




10:12:52 >> But we talked about this yesterday when I met with you,

10:12:56 figuring out remedies, I think our goal should be to be --

10:13:04 and I believe it is -- to be employing and spending locally.

10:13:13 >> The small business context, and really how it's in the

10:13:16 big picture here.

10:13:18 Small business, based on legal predicate, wave to take a

10:13:22 small business approach first to see if that will remedy --

10:13:28 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Right, I understand.

10:13:29 That what I am looking for is the data from you to show,

10:13:33 which you did show us that little slice of pie that is being

10:13:38 awarded, that we are able to track being awarded to women

10:13:43 and minority businesses.

10:13:46 I would just like to see the numbers on that.

10:13:49 You say you have around 20%.

10:13:51 >> 20% of all the contracts of dollars worth $500,000 or

10:13:59 less.

10:13:59 Now I need to give you a total dollars of 200 that you or

10:14:02 less.

10:14:02 That's really what you are looking for.

10:14:04 That's context. Small business program as it is now.

10:14:10 >>MARY MULHERN: I am looking at the economic.

10:14:13 I'm looking at the big, big picture, not just what, you

10:14:17 know, in relation to the disparity study of 2011 or whenever

10:14:22 it was.

10:14:23 I look at -- I want to see -- and I'll bring this up at the




10:14:27 end.

10:14:29 >>> We can provide you anything you want.

10:14:31 I just need to know exactly what you want, and we can

10:14:34 provide that in a supplemental report.

10:14:36 >>MARY MULHERN: I think I'll come back and ask for maybe

10:14:39 a -- you know, instead of bringing up the old questions that

10:14:44 had come up four years ago, and pursuant to that, about, you

10:14:48 know, what we are spending, where our contracts are going,

10:14:52 are they going locally?

10:14:53 And --

10:14:57 >>> Part of the disparity analysis is determining what the

10:15:00 local market is.

10:15:01 And local market means predominantly where are the companies

10:15:05 domiciled, where the city does business, whether in Tampa,

10:15:11 you know, wherever.

10:15:12 And that analysis, the city is still predominantly doing

10:15:15 business within the City of Tampa itself.

10:15:19 So when we do our analysis, our numbers are based on local

10:15:23 market, narrowly tailor our analysis.

10:15:29 We are -- that's why some of these dollars are filtered down

10:15:33 to substantially less because we are only looking at -- when

10:15:37 you look at our analysis numbers, it's only the businesses

10:15:40 that are in our market area so that's already filtered out.

10:15:44 So if there's companies that we do in, say, Orlando, they

10:15:49 are not part of the market area.




10:15:51 Those procurements are not included in the analysis.

10:15:55 So we are already kind of flushing out a lot of that.

10:16:00 If you look at the dollars, you are only looking at local

10:16:03 market dollars, we can push that back and show you what the

10:16:05 universal market is.

10:16:06 I can show you all dollars and how they relate back.

10:16:09 >>MARY MULHERN: Right.

10:16:11 I understand what you are saying.

10:16:12 I think what you are saying is what I want is not the

10:16:14 subject of what we are talking about today.

10:16:17 >>> They are already there and the numbers in the analysis,

10:16:22 we have already just target of local dollars.

10:16:25 >>MARY MULHERN: Right, but, you know, that goes to the

10:16:30 question of how you are defining local, and what you are

10:16:33 looking at overall.

10:16:36 If we are spending, you know, contracts overall, you are

10:16:41 saying the percentage that we are spending on what you

10:16:44 define as local market, you are guessing, 20%?

10:16:53 >>> No, no.

10:16:57 We'll talk about --

10:16:58 >>MARY MULHERN: We'll talk about it later.

10:16:59 >>> Some of them are very pertinent questions.

10:17:02 Some of them may in fact be answered as we move along.

10:17:04 And then other questions may be addressed in our

10:17:09 supplemental report.




10:17:10 You may recall that each year we give you a supplemental

10:17:14 document that includes 30 different specific reports,

10:17:21 because of information that is important, that isn't part of

10:17:27 the analysis.

10:17:28 And so we will be forwarding this document to you within the

10:17:33 next week.

10:17:34 >>MARY MULHERN: Is that going to be on our agenda to talk

10:17:39 about?

10:17:40 Because that might be the time to talk about it.

10:17:42 I don't want to take up, you know -- there's a lot here that

10:17:45 you need to address.

10:17:46 >> Well, as in previous years, when we transmit this to you,

10:17:51 some of those questions unanswered were available to

10:17:56 certainly meet with you individually or come back on an

10:17:58 agenda, however you should choose.

10:18:00 But we do generate over 180 reports.

10:18:07 What you are asking I'm sure we have.

10:18:09 >>MARY MULHERN: Do you already have that supplemental

10:18:11 report?

10:18:12 It hasn't been transmitted to us yet?

10:18:15 >> Gregory Hart: Hasn't been transmitted to you yet.

10:18:19 There's one particular report, maybe two, that we are

10:18:21 finalizing some numbers on.

10:18:22 >>MARY MULHERN: I guess when we get the report -- if you

10:18:29 can tell me when you think we'll get the report, at the end




10:18:31 of this discussion I am going make a motion that we actually

10:18:34 have a discussion about that when you submit it.

10:18:37 So if you think it's going to be two weeks --

10:18:40 >> Should be by the end of next week.

10:18:42 >>MARY MULHERN: End of next week.

10:18:44 Okay.

10:18:44 Thanks.

10:18:44 >> In previous years, you will recall we provided it, and

10:18:52 it's just a way -- again, we do 180 reports out of our DMI

10:18:59 system and this gets into some of the other program,

10:19:01 administrative kinds of data and information that I think

10:19:03 will address some of what you are asking.

10:19:06 It's good information to know.

10:19:12 So we will begin by looking at the disparity analysis of all

10:19:21 the data we just shared with you.

10:19:27 And this is an illustration showing the calculation that is

10:19:35 going to be applied to the following statistical analysis

10:19:42 that we are going to discuss.

10:19:43 And what it essentially is telling you, if you take that

10:19:51 first column, total availability of all firms, BBE is black

10:19:57 business enterprise, African-American owned enterprise.

10:19:59 And this is actually an example that was extracted from the

10:20:03 charts that we are going to follow, and I believe it was in

10:20:06 the category of non-professional services.

10:20:09 And the interpretation of this is simply that if we lived in




10:20:14 a perfect world, and we had 100 companies in our market

10:20:19 area, this simply means that African-American businesses

10:20:24 represent 7.1% of all firms.

10:20:30 7 firms are black within the 100 total.

10:20:33 Now, we don't live in a perfect world, and therefore the

10:20:36 Supreme Court adopted the EEO 80% disparity rule.

10:20:44 What that simply means is that the court said we accept the

10:20:47 fact that 80% of a perfect world is a good benchmark or

10:20:53 threshold upon which to gauge and analyze disparity.

10:20:58 So that 7.1% becomes 5.6%.

10:21:02 Disparity target goal threshold.

10:21:06 So that's the benchmark when we start looking at

10:21:12 underutilization.

10:21:13 In this particular case, which is a real one, total

10:21:15 utilization in terms of payments of African-American firms

10:21:20 was 4.1% in the category of nonprofessional services.

10:21:24 The difference is 1.5.

10:21:26 So we do have disparity.

10:21:28 We do have underutilization.

10:21:31 The following two are examples, actual examples of Hispanic

10:21:36 businesses and woman-owned businesses.

10:21:38 I believe these two were in construction.

10:21:41 And it's showing where there's no disparity.

10:21:45 They are actually meeting or exceeding utilization.

10:21:47 So this is the template.




10:21:49 This is the calculation that then is applied to

10:21:53 participants.

10:21:53 Let's get into the numbers.

10:21:57 Remember our analysis is going to be relegated to 500,000 or

10:22:04 more. That's where we do our disparity analysis.

10:22:07 This chart is looking at women and minority business company

10:22:13 prime utilization by industry category.

10:22:17 So going horizontal at the top, looking at construction,

10:22:21 looking at construction related services, et cetera,

10:22:24 vertically on the left we have our gender and ethnic

10:22:30 categories of business certified, and in the availability

10:22:34 percentage target, we have already calculated apply the

10:22:40 court's 80% rule.

10:22:41 So anywhere that we are showing yellow, we are meeting the

10:22:49 target, the goal.

10:22:51 Everywhere elsewhere there is white, we are not meeting the

10:22:56 target goal, i.e., there is disparity, there is

10:23:01 underutilization.

10:23:03 Okay.

10:23:03 Let me point something out.

10:23:05 I don't know if the overhead will show it.

10:23:07 >>HARRY COHEN: Clarify that last statement.

10:23:15 Either there is disparity or there is simply not available

10:23:17 businesses to go to, correct?

10:23:20 >> It's either/or if you are not meeting the standard.




10:23:24 >> But that would be applicable in those columns where

10:23:27 there's zero availability, zero utilization.

10:23:30 >>HARRY COHEN: That's what the zero means, is there is

10:23:37 nobody to even go to, to procure these services?

10:23:42 >> Yes, sir, that is a correct interpretation.

10:23:46 Let me take a moment just to highlight something that I

10:23:52 think is noteworthy and should be explained especially for

10:23:55 our constituents, the public.

10:23:56 If you look at the aggregate column, the total down there,

10:24:01 to the left, it reads minority and women business

10:24:05 enterprises.

10:24:06 The lower bottom column.

10:24:08 In looking at the industry of construction-related services

10:24:13 and nonprofessional services, someone who might look at this

10:24:20 in total or aggregate way would conclude that, well, the

10:24:24 target under construction-related services is 16%.

10:24:29 Women and minority businesses are getting 16.8%.

10:24:32 And also in the nonprofessional services the goal is 15.3%,

10:24:38 and women and manipulate north businesses are getting 21% of

10:24:42 all dollars paid.

10:24:43 And one might say, hoorah, the WMBEs are included and

10:24:52 represented in those categories, and that is a flawed

10:24:57 approach in looking at utilization.

10:25:00 The courts say no more.

10:25:02 One size does not fit all.




10:25:04 And so as you look up that column, you will find that women,

10:25:09 for example, aren't being utilized at the target level in

10:25:13 that category, even though the aggregate suggests otherwise.

10:25:18 The same hold true for Asian Americans in the column of

10:25:21 nonprofessional services, female owned businesses are doing

10:25:25 well, African-Americans are not, Asian Americans are.

10:25:42 >>LISA MONTELIONE: When Councilman Cohen asked about

10:25:45 available companies, are our numbers, when you say the

10:25:49 available number of companies to apply, are those the one

10:25:55 that are certified through your department?

10:25:57 Or are those available based on the census information, the

10:26:04 business census information that we have for the City of

10:26:06 Tampa region, or some other list of state registered

10:26:13 businesses in particular categories?

10:26:18 >> The counting of companies for the purposes of utilization

10:26:21 is primarily certified companies.

10:26:23 >> So the number of those available companies to bid on our

10:26:28 project, when you look at the different categories,

10:26:32 African-American, Asian, Hispanic, native, American or

10:26:38 female, we are looking at only the ones that are certified

10:26:40 by the City of Tampa?

10:26:42 >> Under the availability category, I will say that we are

10:26:44 looking predominantly at companies that are in the market

10:26:50 area, and certified.

10:26:51 >> Yes or no?




10:26:56 >> Correct, yes.

10:26:59 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.

10:26:59 >> I don't want to get into some of the --

10:27:03 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.

10:27:03 I have a tendency to speak very forward.

10:27:10 So it seems to me we have need to do a better job at getting

10:27:17 companies certified so we have a bigger pool to start

10:27:19 W.so --

10:27:24 >>HARRY COHEN: Just to follow up on that, because we had

10:27:26 this discussion yesterday when you came to see me.

10:27:30 Are we doing a good enough job of letting the public and the

10:27:35 companies that might qualify under this program know that it

10:27:38 exists?

10:27:39 Does everyone know that these opportunities are out there?

10:27:43 >> Yes, you and I did talk about this at length and very

10:27:53 confident and assured.

10:27:56 As a matter of fact in reality it's amazing of how much the

10:27:59 public is aware of these designations of certification and

10:28:04 the opportunity.

10:28:06 They are not always eligible.

10:28:10 But, yes, the awareness is fairly high.

10:28:14 The business community, the small minority business

10:28:17 community, no, there's not a single government governing

10:28:23 agency in our market area, in the region or the state, that

10:28:26 doesn't have a program or some sort of initiative.




10:28:29 I'm confident of that.

10:28:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Ms. Capin, Ms. Montelione, then Mr.

10:28:35 Reddick.

10:28:36 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I am going to go back.

10:28:38 On page 32 -- and I was just curious because it's broken

10:28:41 down African-American, Asian-American, Hispanic-American, is

10:28:48 this by how they apply, when they apply, and they designate

10:28:53 who they are, is it Hispanic?

10:28:57 Is it Caucasian, female?

10:28:59 Because there are Hispanic females, and there are Hispanic

10:29:07 Caucasian females, and there are Hispanic black females,

10:29:14 there are Hispanic Asian fee males.

10:29:17 So is it female, how they apply and they categorize

10:29:21 themselves? Or do you -- is it under woman or is it under

10:29:28 Hispanic?

10:29:29 If it's a Hispanic woman?

10:29:31 >> First and far most, we do verify, validate their

10:29:35 ethnicity.

10:29:38 In the column of females, those will only be Caucasian

10:29:43 females.

10:29:50 If you are white female, you are going to go into your

10:29:53 appropriate ethnic category.

10:29:56 And this follows some of the new rules from the courts.

10:30:00 We have ten classifications.

10:30:04 Ethnic females have to go into --




10:30:10 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Ethnic.

10:30:11 Thank you. That answers it.

10:30:12 Thank you.

10:30:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

10:30:19 We had this discussion yesterday, and it seems like

10:30:24 Councilwoman Montelione, as well as Councilman Cohen,

10:30:29 brought up part of the discussion we had.

10:30:31 And I was sharing with you it seems to be a problem, not

10:30:38 only with the county, the state and a whole lot of places

10:30:40 where goods and services and nonprofessional, there's a lack

10:30:47 of African-American businesses being able to receive those

10:30:49 services.

10:30:50 And I share with you my experience, we went from a four bill

10:31:00 program as a member at Tampa General, and made it very

10:31:08 successful, and one of the things that happened was that we

10:31:11 start to do service training with a lot of businesses.

10:31:16 We reached out, did community outreach to those businesses,

10:31:21 so number one, a lot of them don't understand the process, a

10:31:29 lot of them are afraid to complete the application because

10:31:32 they don't understand how to complete the application, and

10:31:39 they had a problem with the certification process or didn't

10:31:43 understand the process, and most of them felt they had to do

10:31:51 it for the state, the county and the city, three separate

10:31:56 entities, that process.

10:32:09 But we also worked with the University of South Florida, and




10:32:13 we established a partnership with them out there to help

10:32:17 reach out to those businesses, to help provider service

10:32:21 training, and even a better feel of how to process operates,

10:32:27 and, one, we got these businesses and workshops and start

10:32:33 showing them the process, and able to identify their

10:32:38 concerns, and then most of them where we had that $1 million

10:32:44 bond that requires -- most had to pay a $1 million bond, and

10:32:51 they didn't have the resources for it, but they were shown

10:32:54 how they can work as subcontractors and still get some of

10:33:01 these businesses, and what we found is a lot of businesses

10:33:05 out there do an excellent job in providing goods and

10:33:10 services but they just are afraid to meet the requirements

10:33:16 of completing the application process.

10:33:18 But through that training, we saw at Tampa General -- I sit

10:33:24 on that board -- we went from almost no one in the

10:33:28 African-American community receiving contract goods and

10:33:33 services, but that's on the increase.

10:33:36 And now they have one of the best MBE programs over there

10:33:41 because they reached out, and they started doing workshops.

10:33:48 And I would encourage you -- this is what I was sharing with

10:33:53 you yesterday, maybe we need to start reaching out, doing

10:33:56 the community outreach.

10:34:02 And the University of South Florida small business program

10:34:08 are able to work with government agencies to assist in

10:34:10 providing these training workshops.




10:34:13 So if you are willing to reach out and establish some kind

10:34:16 of service training to a lot of these businesses, I

10:34:19 guarantee you, these numbers, the goods and services, will

10:34:26 increase in the city.

10:34:28 And I just hope that somewhere down the line that you will

10:34:33 take that advice, that suggestion, to increase these

10:34:37 numbers.

10:34:38 Because I tell you, there's a lot of mom and pops doing a

10:34:45 wonderful job but they don't have the resources or don't

10:34:47 have the skill set to complete the application.

10:34:50 And I might be the best person at washing cars, but when you

10:34:58 tell me to get a license, I may not be able to print my name

10:35:02 but I can wash that car.

10:35:03 And I think you have a lot of those businesses out there

10:35:06 that are afraid and they just need to be shown how to

10:35:10 complete the process.

10:35:12 And I think we can see those numbers increase as we did at

10:35:15 Tampa General.

10:35:16 Thank you, sir.

10:35:17 >>> Councilman Reddick, you make a valid point, and we'll

10:35:21 continue to do all that we can.

10:35:25 I will a sure you that for efficiency and effective

10:35:31 purposes, what we don't do, we do leverage the resources in

10:35:38 the community as you indicated was done at the hospital, and

10:35:45 we do utilize USF, SBIC, BBIC, HBIF.




10:35:53 We have partnership with those agencies.

10:35:57 And we are working and will continue, because that is a very

10:36:01 valid point.

10:36:02 We do continue to partner and leverage and refer and

10:36:07 resource people to the agency that can give them the proper

10:36:10 guidance direction.

10:36:11 We do do some of it but not all of it.

10:36:14 I think it's every other month now, we do mandatory

10:36:18 orientation and quasi-workshop.

10:36:21 But I agree with you, sir.

10:36:23 And thank you for that.

10:36:23 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Greg knows me very well.

10:36:35 I think I am in a unique position here, because before I was

10:36:41 considering running for office, I had the company that I'm

10:36:48 associated with, construction company, certified as a small

10:36:51 local business enterprise.

10:36:53 I'm not affiliated with the company in ownership so it

10:36:56 wasn't a minority women business, it was just a small local

10:36:59 business enterprise.

10:37:01 And having gone through the process, I can concur with Mr.

10:37:07 Reddick, it is -- the application process alone is very

10:37:12 intimidating, providing your financial statements, providing

10:37:17 years of tax returns, going through the process, the volume

10:37:20 of paper that I had to pull and copy and provide was very

10:37:28 difficult.




10:37:28 There was a woman in your office, Bonnie Crawford, who has

10:37:32 since retired, who was fabulous during the entire process.

10:37:36 She helped me, walked me through the entire process and

10:37:40 getting everything in order and get the application

10:37:43 processed.

10:37:45 I have had a lot of small business owners specifying who has

10:37:52 gone through the process and has given up or has found that,

10:37:56 at no fault of your own, your department went through a loss

10:38:00 of many employees during the massive cutbacks that we have

10:38:04 made to the City of Tampa government as a whole.

10:38:08 So you lost many, many employees and a good Dale of your

10:38:12 budget.

10:38:13 So you are working with kind of one hand tied behind your

10:38:20 back at least in my view.

10:38:22 I attended and participated in many of the small business

10:38:25 information centers workshops in Hillsborough County.

10:38:30 They offered, I think, nearly every single month, it is SBE

10:38:37 certification classes, and they also offer another class

10:38:40 called doing business with local government.

10:38:43 I have attended both of those classes, as well as other

10:38:48 courses offered not only by the small business information

10:38:51 center through Hillsborough County had, but with the small

10:38:54 business development center at USF.

10:38:56 And having gone through the classes, having applied to not

10:39:04 only the City of Tampa, but I have also actually never




10:39:09 completed the process for Pinellas County, and the city of

10:39:13 St. Petersburg.

10:39:14 I found that there was another service that was really

10:39:17 necessary, and it was one that Mr. Reddick alluded to in

10:39:21 that people need help.

10:39:24 Mom and pops -- you have to sit down, going to one of these

10:39:27 classes, they don't help you and go through the paperwork to

10:39:31 fill out the paperwork.

10:39:34 They also list all of the different programs that are

10:39:39 available, not only as you mentioned, the state, or the

10:39:44 municipalities, the hospitals.

10:39:48 There are so many different programs to apply for.

10:39:50 And what they do is they tell you these programs that are

10:39:52 out there, they tell you how to access information and get

10:40:00 the form to fill out but they don't make the copies for you,

10:40:05 they don't really hand-hold you through the process.

10:40:08 So I started doing that for specifying and help small

10:40:15 companies -- we are in the construction business.

10:40:17 A lot of my friends are out of work and have been for a long

10:40:20 time.

10:40:20 So they are going the entrepreneur route.

10:40:23 But it's very, very difficult, even though what supposed to

10:40:29 fill out, when you go to one of these classes, it's great.

10:40:32 They give you all the information.

10:40:34 But if you are an entrepreneur, you are starting your own




10:40:36 business, or even if you have been in business for a while,

10:40:43 you are busy in a bake shop, you are busy out in the field

10:40:46 if you are a painter, or you don't have the time to go to

10:40:49 any of these classes.

10:40:51 My significant other, that's why he never did.

10:40:54 He's been in business 13 years, a very small company.

10:40:56 He would have qualified 15 years ago.

10:40:59 But he never did it because he doesn't have the time to go

10:41:02 out.

10:41:02 So when I found myself a member of his company, not by

10:41:07 choice, but circumstance, that's what I started doing for

10:41:10 him.

10:41:10 And there needs to be maybe some more discussion outside of

10:41:19 this, because now, you know, we are receiving a report, we

10:41:21 are receiving the information, and what we do from here are

10:41:24 the next steps for this discussion.

10:41:27 But working in conjunction with Hillsborough County, the

10:41:32 process actually, if you are a certified minority, and

10:41:38 correct me if I am wrong -- but if you are certified with

10:41:40 Hillsborough County, the city will reciprocate and accept

10:41:42 your certification, but not the other way around.

10:41:45 If you are certified with the City of Tampa, Hillsborough

10:41:47 County does not accept your certification.

10:41:50 And just for those out there listening, if you are looking

10:41:53 at St. Petersburg and Pinellas County, St. Petersburg




10:41:58 doesn't reciprocate either.

10:42:00 You have to make a separate application to St. Petersburg.

10:42:02 They don't reciprocate with Pinellas County like we do.

10:42:06 We'll accept Hillsborough County's certification.

10:42:09 Pinellas County does not.

10:42:12 If you apply to Pinellas County, you have to apply

10:42:14 separately to the city of St. Petersburg.

10:42:16 So it's a very difficult process, not just here in our

10:42:19 region, but in others as well.

10:42:21 And I think that we have talked about at length, I mean, we

10:42:28 spent hours talking about these things.

10:42:31 And it's very complicated.

10:42:36 And I sympathize because you are doing this with very few

10:42:40 people on your staff.

10:42:41 >>> And I would like to comment, if I could, on that point.

10:42:46 You are right, there are some challenges that we as a

10:42:51 region, a community, need to work harder at in terms of

10:42:55 making things seamless and more user friendly.

10:42:59 >> I mean the hospital, why we don't reciprocate, why every

10:43:11 entity has to have their own process and program.

10:43:13 >>> Gregory Hart: And I think I mentioned to each of you

10:43:18 that Mayor Buckhorn has established a task force, if you

10:43:22 will, or committee of staff and folks with Hillsborough

10:43:25 County, Temple Terrace and Plant City, and one of the

10:43:30 objectives is to look at our respective small business,




10:43:36 women business programs, and I suspect that the mayor, in

10:43:41 working with this task force and subcommittee, will

10:43:44 eventually have some incremental recommendations and

10:43:50 initiatives that will move closer to a number of seamless

10:43:58 kind of processes to be of service to the community.

10:44:01 So we'll look forward to that in the necessary future.

10:44:06 Oh, if I might, council, if I could just talk for a minute,

10:44:12 our vice chair apparently has to leave, and your committee

10:44:15 may want to bring forth a comment.

10:44:17 If it's okay, if I could ask her to come to the podium.

10:44:23 Thank you.

10:44:23 >> Good morning.

10:44:25 My name is Cathy Byrd with innovative, the vice chair of the

10:44:32 economic business advisory referred to as EBOAC.

10:44:40 I want you to know that we have a fairly decent cross

10:44:43 section of small business owners that actually Higginbotham

10:44:47 sit on this very council.

10:44:48 So the questions that you are asking and the issues you are

10:44:50 raising are the exact questions that we ask and have begun

10:44:54 to raise.

10:44:56 For 2012, there are two particular areas that we have

10:44:59 recognized.

10:45:00 We seem to have a fundamental disconnect.

10:45:03 One is the conclusions and the results that are coming out

10:45:08 of the empirical data that you are receiving today.




10:45:14 And what has been long standing administrative policy.

10:45:18 They do not necessarily marry well, and in some cases they

10:45:21 are actually in opposition to each other.

10:45:23 How do we know that?

10:45:25 Those of us that sit on this council, that have been in that

10:45:29 community, I happen to be a general contractor, so I

10:45:32 appreciate what Councilwoman Montelione is saying.

10:45:36 I also, however, have hung around many other different

10:45:40 service providers, goods providers, who have also traveled

10:45:44 in the minority certification community.

10:45:47 I happen to be in the State of Florida when the state of

10:45:50 Florida first implemented a minority certification program

10:45:53 of any kind back in the mid 80s.

10:45:56 I saw how it evolved.

10:45:58 I saw how it preversed.

10:46:01 I saw how they attempted to try to get a handle on that

10:46:06 perversion, and all the work-arounds and all the kind of

10:46:11 things we have seen.

10:46:12 Where I am the most encouraged now than I have ever been --

10:46:16 and I have to realize I am a little bit cynical as I've

10:46:19 gotten older -- and that's been going a good long while --

10:46:24 we have now some data that is answering some questions that

10:46:27 has been asked for years, but that data has never been

10:46:29 collected.

10:46:30 And it's never been collected in an active and fact fashion.




10:46:34 Most of the data that has been reported in earlier years of

10:46:38 reports has been, here are the promises we made.

10:46:43 And I can show you the data of all of the people we made

10:46:46 promises to.

10:46:47 This report says, here are the promises we fulfilled.

10:46:51 And here is the data.

10:46:53 And that is where the real story really is.

10:46:55 So I'm particularly encouraged at the last four years worth

10:47:00 of data that you are seeing.

10:47:02 What does it many?

10:47:04 That requires conclusion.

10:47:06 And we needed to do this for a long enough period of time to

10:47:10 have relevant data over a cross section of time.

10:47:14 That's what we have now.

10:47:15 We have now just begun to start forming our conclusion.

10:47:19 But those conclusions are what we are actually looking at,

10:47:23 or arriving at those conclusions, or we have only now just

10:47:27 been comfortable doing because we have hit four out of five

10:47:32 years of empirical after-the-fact data.

10:47:36 So I want you to know that there is a body in place, and

10:47:39 this is your EBOAC entity, and we are asking the same

10:47:43 question, and coming to the same conclusion, and we will be

10:47:48 bringing forward to the council and to the administration,

10:47:52 these are the things that we now know to be true and these

10:47:55 are the disconnects, and what can we do collectively to make




10:47:58 that better?

10:48:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Cohen, Ms. Montelione, and Ms.

10:48:03 Mulhern, in that order.

10:48:04 >>HARRY COHEN: My comment actually was piggybacking on what

10:48:11 Councilman Reddick and Councilwoman Montelione were talking

10:48:14 about.

10:48:14 And that was the ability of people to do the paperwork,

10:48:19 complete the paperwork, fill out the forms.

10:48:24 At the courthouse.

10:48:25 When a person comes in, they oftentimes know what they need

10:48:29 to do.

10:48:31 But they have no idea what paperwork they need to fill out.

10:48:34 And to move back to Councilman Reddick's point, it doesn't

10:48:38 help -- or Councilwoman Montelione, I'm not sure.

10:48:43 They were related.

10:48:44 It doesn't help to give the person a crash course of the

10:48:46 law.

10:48:47 What you need to do is sit down with them with the form and

10:48:50 actually help them fill it out.

10:48:52 And what's taking place at the courthouse over the last

10:48:56 couple of years is some office space was provided for bay

10:49:00 area legal services and volunteer lawyers to come and sit

10:49:04 down and actually provide regularly scheduled forms clinics.

10:49:11 Not legal advice.

10:49:12 Not training on what the law allows.




10:49:14 But actually, here is the form, I will sit with you and fill

10:49:18 it out, and highlight for you what you need.

10:49:21 We are not going to give you a link to go on the Internet

10:49:23 and find it for yourself and get lost out in cyberspace.

10:49:27 We are actually going to sit down and work through the form

10:49:30 together, and we may do it in the classroom setting or may

10:49:35 do it one on one.

10:49:37 And I just wanted to encourage in looking at these tapes of

10:49:46 services, perhaps thinking outside the box and going to the

10:49:49 local bar, and, you know, lawyers are required to give

10:49:52 pro bono services as part of their bar certification.

10:49:55 A lot of lawyers are really actually looking for ways to

10:49:58 fulfill that.

10:50:00 And it might be that providing a forms clinic with volunteer

10:50:03 lawyers who can sit down, get the hourly credits that they

10:50:07 need for their certification, and actually walk people

10:50:10 through the process, that might be something that could be

10:50:13 very cost effective and actually a real way to actually put

10:50:17 the forms in front of people and move them through it.

10:50:20 >>> Thank you.

10:50:25 That's actual useful to me as vice chair of the council to

10:50:29 bring that back to the council.

10:50:30 And I appreciate any of those types of thoughts which I

10:50:32 would love to encourage you to, because we have been on the

10:50:35 outside and I have to admit the process today is far more




10:50:39 cumbersome than it was five years ago when there was plenty

10:50:42 of staff to hold our hands individually, and there was an

10:50:45 individual hand holding that was able to have and did in

10:50:49 fact happen.

10:50:50 Everybody's budget has been decimated, and staff has been --

10:50:56 so now the need for that thinking outside the box is even

10:50:59 more critical than itself every been but I do absolutely

10:51:07 agree, it's necessary.

10:51:14 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.

10:51:18 This is your second term on the EBOAC, correct?

10:51:22 >> It is.

10:51:24 >>LISA MONTELIONE: How many meetings has EBOAC had

10:51:27 particularly in a year?

10:51:29 Monthly, quarterly, semi annually?

10:51:31 >> We meet no less than quarterly.

10:51:33 In the first year that we were born we were meeting every

10:51:37 other month just to try to understand what our function is

10:51:39 and how we were doing that.

10:51:41 But quarterly is the least often we meet and we just held a

10:51:45 meeting this week.

10:51:45 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Okay.

10:51:47 One of the gentlemen who was recently appointed reached out

10:51:55 to me.

10:51:56 I sent him a congratulatory note.

10:52:00 And he was a little confused because he hadn't been




10:52:03 contacted after his appointment.

10:52:07 And I suggested that, you know, he get in touch with the

10:52:12 department to find out anything he could about meeting and

10:52:18 what have you.

10:52:18 So I'm thinking that maybe there needs to be a more frequent

10:52:26 cycle.

10:52:31 It's hard for me to sit here and look at all the data we

10:52:34 have.

10:52:36 Knowing that we had the council in place, the EBOL act in

10:52:41 place.

10:52:42 What year did this start?

10:52:43 >> Two years ago.

10:52:47 >>LISA MONTELIONE: It only started two years ago?

10:52:49 >> I don't know when it was administratively create bud we

10:52:52 did meat two years ago.

10:52:54 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So in this study that we are looking at,

10:52:56 we have got that four years worth of data.

10:52:59 For two years of those, we have had equal business

10:53:03 opportunity advisory council.

10:53:08 And looking at the total of four years, we are in the

10:53:11 position that we are in now.

10:53:13 So in my eyes, something needs to be changed.

10:53:21 So we need to get a more active EBOAC act.

10:53:30 I know that the department does hold sessions that are

10:53:33 informative on how to fill out the forms.




10:53:37 But maybe they are not frequent enough.

10:53:41 And with the staff -- and I'm sorry, this is a question for

10:53:45 Mr. Hart.

10:53:46 How many staff members do you have?

10:53:49 >> We have a total of five and that includes myself.

10:53:53 And that's down 50%.

10:53:56 >> So you lost 50% of your staff, and what period of time?

10:54:01 >> In the past two and a half there's years.

10:54:03 >> Two and a half, three years.

10:54:05 And we are in this position that we are in now.

10:54:08 So --

10:54:10 >> And you mentioned, if you mate say, one of the

10:54:14 technicians, Mrs. Crawford, who --

10:54:18 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Retired?

10:54:19 >> Was the in-house business consultant.

10:54:21 So we attempt to do --

10:54:25 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Can we track her down?

10:54:28 I think I recall her saying that she was going to load up

10:54:32 the van and take a long --

10:54:34 >> And we will at Mr. Cohen's suggestion look at that

10:54:38 because that's a great idea.

10:54:39 >> It's very difficult to effectuate the changes we talked

10:54:45 about.

10:54:46 And you had mentioned two goals.

10:54:47 You had 2012.




10:54:48 What are those two goals?

10:54:51 >> The first goal was to better understand the

10:54:53 administrative policies that are in place that oftentimes

10:54:57 impact the effectiveness of the programs but will in fact

10:55:03 generate the results that we see or alter the results that

10:55:07 we see.

10:55:08 Now, the second part of it is to include the data such that

10:55:16 there is sufficient integrity to have it be meaningful.

10:55:20 One of the reasons that we first -- the first year's

10:55:26 existence of the EBOAC group didn't take any active action

10:55:30 is because we had not yet concluded even three years worth

10:55:35 of data to have what we felt was legitimate data.

10:55:39 There has been data collected for years and years and years.

10:55:42 But it wasn't anything useful because it didn't answer

10:55:44 questions being asked.

10:55:46 >> I understand the need for that.

10:55:48 But I also understand that going through the process myself,

10:55:53 you can see just going through the process where the

10:55:55 problems are.

10:55:56 I don't need anyone to tell me that.

10:55:58 I don't need numbers in four or five years worth of

10:56:02 statistics to tell me that something is broken and we need

10:56:05 to fix it.

10:56:07 So that's something from day one, I would have been looking

10:56:12 at how to make this process better, and how to make it




10:56:16 easier, and how to reach out to these businesses, whether

10:56:20 they are minority, or small businesses, and how to get the

10:56:23 participation, because then we wouldn't be in this situation

10:56:26 now.

10:56:30 That's one of my issues.

10:56:33 I just lost my train of thought.

10:56:35 But the second goal is?

10:56:37 >> The second goal is to derive the conclusions as a

10:56:43 committee, as a council, not asking the staff to derive the

10:56:46 conclusions but for us to derive the conclusions as members

10:56:49 of the community who many are participating in this very

10:56:52 program.

10:56:52 >> What do you mean by derive the conclusions?

10:56:56 >> Having now had -- now having data that is more clear,

10:57:03 more concise, more defined, more decisive such that we can

10:57:10 be more surgical and strategic in the recommendations that

10:57:13 we will be making to you as a council.

10:57:16 We are not regulatory.

10:57:17 We are advisory only.

10:57:18 So we are going to take that information.

10:57:21 We will draw conclusions and we will come forward to you

10:57:25 with some recommendations.

10:57:27 I do respectfully disagree with a comment that you had made

10:57:31 earlier which is that the process has been so cumbersome

10:57:35 that we arrive here.




10:57:36 I believe we have been here for years.

10:57:39 I believe we are only just now seeing the numbers in the

10:57:44 fashion that go, oh, my gosh.

10:57:47 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That's my point.

10:57:48 >> The process actually was, in my professional opinion,

10:57:51 being adequately addressed at least for the City of Tampa.

10:57:55 I do not address all of the municipalities .

10:57:57 But for the City of Tampa, until the budget cuts decimated

10:58:02 the staff, the City of Tampa, in my professional opinion,

10:58:05 had one of the most user friendly approaches for becoming

10:58:10 certified with the City of Tampa, when there were people

10:58:14 like Bonnie Crawford who would personally and physically

10:58:19 hold your hand and take your actual paperwork and say, we

10:58:23 need that, we need that, we need that.

10:58:25 Made copies.

10:58:26 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And again, having gone through the

10:58:31 process, whether Bonnie was there or not or whether there

10:58:33 was somebody there to hold your hand, the process is too

10:58:35 cumbersome.

10:58:39 The amount of paperwork, and understanding what you need.

10:58:42 I mean, you have to have your minutes of your meetings from

10:58:48 your corporate -- from your annual corporate meeting.

10:58:54 You have to supply your documents in such length that the

10:59:03 higher process is so cumbersome.

10:59:05 So whether there is somebody there to hold your hand or not,




10:59:07 or whether the staff is in place, it's the amount of

10:59:14 documentation that is required that is also very cumbersome.

10:59:18 So I'm looking at the entire ball of wax.

10:59:25 I'm not looking at whether or not there is enough staff, or

10:59:29 whether there's enough education, or whether there's enough

10:59:33 outreach.

10:59:33 I'm looking at the whole thing.

10:59:34 And that's where I have an issue with having to wait on more

10:59:40 numbers and more numbers and more numbers and more numbers

10:59:43 to tell me there's a problem.

10:59:44 >> And Councilman Montelione, I agree with you and that's

10:59:54 write believe it comes into play.

10:59:56 It is not -- and correct me if I am wrong, Mr. Heart, I do

11:00:00 not believe it is a function of the minority business

11:00:01 development office to determine what those have to be.

11:00:08 I believe it is done administratively and they caught that.

11:00:13 That is again some of that disconnect that we were talking

11:00:15 about, and there are policies in place that are actually

11:00:18 hindering the process rather than helping the process.

11:00:20 >> So those issues of what the documentation is, I think, it

11:00:31 may have helped to have council aware of those issues before

11:00:35 now.

11:00:35 That's all I'm saying.

11:00:36 >>MARY MULHERN: I don't want to take up too much time.

11:00:49 You have to go, right?




11:00:51 >> I do.

11:00:52 >>MARY MULHERN: I was going to make a motion we come back

11:00:54 for further discussion.

11:00:57 Since I said that an hour ago or whenever, when would be a

11:01:01 good time for you to come back for perhaps a workshop, your

11:01:08 committee, with some recommendations to council, taking in

11:01:14 all that council has asked of you and what you provided to

11:01:17 us?

11:01:18 When would be a good time to do that?

11:01:20 I think maybe not in a week when we get the supplemental

11:01:23 report, but if you could tell me when you think that would

11:01:27 be, and we could try to move forward with some of the

11:01:32 recommendations we are hearing, and questions we are hearing

11:01:35 today.

11:01:35 >> As the vice chair, I could respond some tobacco-free some

11:01:41 of these questions fairly quickly, within a two to

11:01:43 three-week period.

11:01:45 If you would like to have the entire council convene to come

11:01:49 to you, that's going to be little like herding cats.

11:01:54 >>MARY MULHERN: We don't know, the council, the chair,

11:01:58 whoever, representatives from your committee, to come, and

11:02:03 at the same time as Mr. Hart.

11:02:06 I don't know if there's somebody other than your department,

11:02:10 the administration who would want to come.

11:02:16 Two months?




11:02:17 >> For me personally, I wouldn't need any more than a month.

11:02:20 That would be more than enough time to come forward with

11:02:24 recommendations.

11:02:26 >>MARY MULHERN: So I'll look at the calendar, I guess right

11:02:31 now.

11:02:31 I don't want to have to take anyone else's time today and

11:02:38 say maybe at our next workshop, February 23rd workshop.

11:02:46 There's a lot there, so that's not a good idea.

11:02:49 February, March.

11:02:53 April?

11:02:56 April 26th.

11:03:11 Maching a motion that we have a workshop to discuss further

11:03:14 minority business and women and minority business with

11:03:17 presentation, someone from the council or committee, and

11:03:21 from Mr. Hart's department.

11:03:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion on the floor.

11:03:27 I have Mr. Suarez and then Mr. Shelby wants to speak, I

11:03:30 guess on the motion.

11:03:31 You have a second.

11:03:32 I have Ms. Mulhern on the motion, seconded by Mrs.

11:03:36 Montelione.

11:03:36 I go to Mr. Suarez first.

11:03:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If I could.

11:03:43 >> I know, I wasn't done speaking yet.

11:03:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'm sorry.




11:03:50 I apologize.

11:03:51 You made a motion.

11:03:51 I thought that was the end.

11:03:54 Thank you.

11:03:54 You have the floor again, Ms. Mulhern.

11:03:56 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.

11:03:58 So I wanted to make the motion, then I wanted to say a

11:04:01 couple of other brief things, so if I could do that.

11:04:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I give you back the floor, Ms. Mulhern.

11:04:07 >>MARY MULHERN: I did want to just say that since this all

11:04:13 started over four years ago -- and I thank former Councilman

11:04:18 Scott for bringing a lot of these to our attention -- when

11:04:24 we look at the data we do have, I think it's quite clear

11:04:28 that we are ready to do whatever we can do to increase

11:04:34 participation.

11:04:34 So I think we are ready to do that.

11:04:37 I do want to send that message to the administration that we

11:04:40 are ready to do that.

11:04:41 Clearly, with the African-American participation, the women

11:04:48 participation, those numbers are really low, even with the

11:04:52 decent availability we have.

11:04:53 So that's all I want to say.

11:04:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Suarez.

11:04:58 And then we go to vote.

11:05:01 >>MIKE SUAREZ: A couple things.




11:05:03 When I was a member of this committee before Ms. Byrd was on

11:05:08 there at the same time that I was, and there were two things

11:05:10 that we need to look at, and Mr. Hart if you don't mind

11:05:13 coming up, is that we needed to collect the data because the

11:05:18 law had changed specific to how set-asides, what we used to

11:05:24 call set-asides, was done, so that we could not take action

11:05:27 until we have the data, so that's part of the reason for the

11:05:31 disparate in time.

11:05:33 So the reason why we created it was so that we could collect

11:05:37 the data so that we could take action.

11:05:39 Part of what has happened now, we have enough data in order

11:05:43 to go forward.

11:05:44 So a lot of the issues that you were talking about,

11:05:47 Councilwoman Montelione, in terms of what we know

11:05:49 anecdotally we could not use legally in order to move

11:05:53 forward.

11:05:54 That's part of the problem.

11:05:56 That's why we need these numbers to show exactly the way our

11:06:00 process currently works, to show disparity.

11:06:04 But that's part of the law.

11:06:06 That's part of the Supreme Court ruling that we have to deal

11:06:08 with.

11:06:09 The second part of it is that because we have cut back on

11:06:15 the number of folks that are in Mr. Hart's department, it's

11:06:19 very difficult to -- she's done a great job considering the




11:06:22 budget that we do have, Mr. Hart, in terms of going out and

11:06:26 reaching out as much as you can.

11:06:27 I know that it's been difficult.

11:06:30 One of the questions that I have, I know that

11:06:36

11:06:36

11:06:36

11:16:47 >>SAL TERRITO: Legal department.

11:16:47 I think what you have been presented with today is

11:16:49 information.

11:16:50 I don't think a conclusion has been reached yet.

11:16:52 I think the clock starts with the conclusion has been

11:16:54 reached.

11:16:54 >> So when is the conclusion reached?

11:16:59 If we have the data, when is that conclusion, when is the

11:17:02 analysis complete if that means we have a finding of

11:17:07 discrimination?

11:17:08 >> Today we present you with the data.

11:17:12 As I mentioned earlier, now we must have conversation to

11:17:19 confirm the conclusions from the data, which is

11:17:23 underutilization.

11:17:25 >>LISA MONTELIONE: How long to do that?

11:17:26 >> I will have to have conversation with the administration

11:17:29 and the mayor can indicate when he would like to come back

11:17:31 and set a date to bring forward his conclusion and his




11:17:36 recommendation.

11:17:37 So --

11:17:38 >>LISA MONTELIONE: 45 days starts when the mayor decides to

11:17:41 have a finding of discrimination?

11:17:43 >> I defer to legal but that would be my interpretation.

11:17:46 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And that could be an open window.

11:17:49 I mean, open ended.

11:17:56 That's what I thought and ways told no.

11:17:58 >> The question is in 45 days whether or not --

11:18:08 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Usually what I do with legal documents

11:18:10 is when I'm giving a number of days and windows, I put dates

11:18:13 next to them.

11:18:14 So I have got 45 days.

11:18:17 You have got 30 days.

11:18:18 And I have 60 days.

11:18:19 And I am trying to put dates next to them.

11:18:21 So where is that window where that 45 days starts?

11:18:26 We have to be able to put a date next to it.

11:18:37 A motion was on the floor.

11:18:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: In my opinion, this is an opinion of one,

11:18:45 this is not a presentation on behalf -- this is what we

11:18:48 brought up to find out what the facts and the figures were,

11:18:52 preliminary to the report that's coming, so we all know

11:18:55 what's going on.

11:18:55 So in my opinion the 45 days of the clock doesn't start




11:19:00 until the final report is handed to council, with all the

11:19:04 information to do whatever we deem necessary in fixing the

11:19:09 disparity, if any.

11:19:11 So I have got a lot of people want to speak still.

11:19:14 I have Ms. Capin and Mr. Cohen in, that order.

11:19:17 And then we'll come back.

11:19:18 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I want to say one more thing.

11:19:21 When we make the motion, when we come back and have the

11:19:25 council here, or the EBOAC, there's a gentleman that's going

11:19:33 to speak after the workshop, his name is Harland Henry, an

11:19:37 expert in the field, and I would like him to come back and

11:19:40 participant, so if we can include that when we finally get

11:19:43 to a vote on this motion.

11:19:46 >> If it helps council, I suspect depending upon the

11:19:51 administration, the mayor's calendar, he has every intention

11:19:56 to come back within 45 days to have that conversation.

11:20:00 I don't know his calendar, and therefore that's why I am

11:20:05 unable to specifically tell you, but I can assure you that

11:20:09 depending upon those conditions, we will be back.

11:20:13 That's our intent.

11:20:14 That's what we want to do.

11:20:16 So we will be back after that conversation and ask for

11:20:22 either a date certain, after coming back, and whatever

11:20:28 process needs to take place, the time frame that Mr. Shelby

11:20:31 alluded to.




11:20:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have Ms. Capin.

11:20:34 And I understand the process.

11:20:36 I'm just trying to get this meeting pushing forward because

11:20:40 the time, not that it's valuable time, it's all valuable

11:20:43 time always, but I have Ms. Capin and Mr. Cohen.

11:20:47 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.

11:20:48 This is the fourth report under new guidelines methodology

11:20:52 established by ordinance.

11:20:54 This is a report established by ordinance.

11:20:56 These numbers are to help us, or give us the information

11:21:02 that has been garnered over four years in order for -- and

11:21:07 then 45 days could be starting today, and the mayor come

11:21:11 back within 45 days, 30 days after that, whatever the

11:21:15 ordinance has been, and is what we should be following.

11:21:21 Anything else, I think, is outside the ordinance.

11:21:27 So I would like to continue with the report.

11:21:33 And we should not reach any conclusion today.

11:21:35 Just hear the report and hear possible recommendations.

11:21:39 Thank you.

11:21:39 >> I understand.

11:21:41 Thank you very much.

11:21:41 Mr. Cohen?

11:21:43 >>HARRY COHEN: In the interest of time, I think we should

11:21:45 just move on.

11:21:46 I just want to say, in my opinion it says report, it's dated




11:21:52 January 26.

11:21:53 I think that means 45 days starts today, in my view, and the

11:21:58 administration should come back.

11:21:59 I don't think we even have to schedule it.

11:22:01 I think actually it's up to you to schedule it under the

11:22:04 ordinance.

11:22:06 You are required to do that.

11:22:07 >> We have 45 days to do that.

11:22:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Okay.

11:22:12 You want to go back to the original motion by Ms. Mulhern

11:22:14 and Ms. Montelione?

11:22:16 >> Could I change my motion?

11:22:25 Would this be appropriate given the time frame that we have

11:22:29 a staff report on March 1st?

11:22:35 That's within 45 days, or after 45 days.

11:22:43 Council, I don't see any reason why we can't have a staff

11:22:46 report on March 1st.

11:22:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Second by Mr. Cohen.

11:22:49 The original motion is off the floor since the maker changed

11:22:52 it to another motion.

11:22:53 So I have that motion on the floor.

11:22:55 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying aye.

11:22:58 Opposed nay.

11:22:59 The Ayes have it unanimously.

11:23:01 Continue, please.




11:23:01 >>> Thank you.

11:23:06 I believe we left off with the analysis of WMBE utilization

11:23:10 by industry category, the contract 500,000 and less.

11:23:14 So that sums up that page.

11:23:18 And the following is a summary of what we just looked at.

11:23:24 Hispanic businesses met the target and construction services

11:23:28 and nonprofessional services, Asian businesses met the

11:23:31 target, African-American owned businesses met the target and

11:23:36 females met the target in professional services.

11:23:39 So there are areas of categories where there is

11:23:46 underutilization.

11:23:47 Looking at the informal contract activity, the statistics

11:23:50 again, the yellow indicates where we are meeting that

11:23:55 target, and the white is where we have underutilization or

11:24:00 apparent disparity.

11:24:05 The summary of that follows.

11:24:09 In the informal category, Hispanic-owned businesses,

11:24:12 female-owned businesses and Asian businesses met the target

11:24:16 in construction related services and African-American

11:24:19 businesses met the target.

11:24:20 But here again, we have four years of data.

11:24:24 Conclusion is we have underutilization in disparity in those

11:24:29 categories where there's no representation.

11:24:33 In the subcontract utilization, category.

11:24:42 In summary, the yellow indicates where targets are being




11:24:46 met, and the white statistical categories, it is not being

11:24:53 met.

11:24:59 The summary of that chart indicates that Asian-American

11:25:01 businesses, Hispanic-American businesses, female, Native

11:25:04 American businesses are meeting that target in construction

11:25:07 as it relates to subcontract utilization.

11:25:11 Hispanic-American businesses are meeting in

11:25:14 construction-related services.

11:25:15 Hispanic-owned businesses and females met the target in

11:25:19 nonprofessional services.

11:25:21 And Hispanic in goods.

11:25:29 Now, I just wanted to note that within the SLBE program,

11:25:32 keep in the mind that the SLBE program is a race and gender

11:25:37 neutral program.

11:25:38 The whole objective under initial guidance is we do all that

11:25:41 we can in a race neutral fashion.

11:25:45 I pointed out earlier in our presentation that the SBE

11:25:48 program is very effective.

11:25:49 But it is not going to be the answer to all needs for

11:26:00 inclusion so we are maximizing that.

11:26:03 And now you can run concurrently in a very narrowly

11:26:11 tailored, thoughtful and strategic fashion, perhaps some

11:26:16 ethnic and gender specific kinds of initiatives.

11:26:21 And these are some of the enhancements that we have under

11:26:25 the SBE program such as increasing the threshold of 200,000,




11:26:30 3, 000,000, fanned we do so, even if we do only

11:26:35 sporadically, we can still set specific subcontract goals,

11:26:39 and we have sheltered projects that lend themselves to

11:26:41 subcontracting.

11:26:43 So in conclusion, again, WMBE presentation has increased the

11:26:53 opportunity for WMBE but it's not the answer to everything.

11:26:57 The SLBE gender neutral program has increased participation

11:27:01 of women and minority firms at the prime level.

11:27:03 Again, that program, the percent are WMBEs, ands 83% of

11:27:11 all dollars actually being paid to WMBE because of the dual

11:27:15 certification.

11:27:16 WMBE or small business.

11:27:18 We completed four years of DMI data collection, data for

11:27:24 2011 in the standing report. There is a suggestion that we

11:27:28 do so.

11:27:32 You want to do an independent verification.

11:27:36 It's not something that is absolutely mandatory, but it is a

11:27:41 best practice.

11:27:44 Subcontract on a year to year basis does vary.

11:27:49 The first year of the four-year data that we provided you,

11:27:52 for example, participation, I think 33%, the following year

11:27:57 was 13, the next year was 20.

11:27:59 But the range has been from 13 to 33%.

11:28:02 The point there is you can't look at a year independent of

11:28:07 cumulative data, because it does have -- it has peaks and




11:28:13 balances.

11:28:15 As we have discussed at length in the last part of this

11:28:18 workshop, WMBE policy changes require multiple years of data

11:28:24 with multiple year methodology.

11:28:26 We now have that.

11:28:27 Four years.

11:28:27 Five years would be great so we are in a position to

11:28:31 consider some policy changes if statistics and data support

11:28:34 it.

11:28:35 We'll continue regardless, and concurrently, the SLBE's

11:28:42 program, and maximize opportunities for not only small

11:28:46 businesses but WMBEs within that program.

11:28:49 So as has been stated, in conclusion, we'll be back with

11:29:05 some ideas, suggestions, and recommendations, if you will,

11:29:07 on going forward.

11:29:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Any other questions by council members?

11:29:20 We'll see you on March 1st.

11:29:21 >> We appreciate it.

11:29:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Okay.

11:29:25 We have Mr. Thom Snelling.

11:29:27 >>> Is that the conclusion of the workshop?

11:29:41 Do we have public comment now?

11:29:43 >> Yes, we are going to have comments as soon as he finishes

11:29:45 here.

11:29:46 I do have to leave at 11:30.




11:29:48 So I only have four minutes, trying to get the most I can

11:29:53 from Mr. Snelling right now and then go back to comments on

11:29:56 number 5.

11:29:59 >>LISA MONTELIONE: We have another workshop to discuss

11:30:01 alcoholic zoning?

11:30:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Well, it's up to this council to

11:30:04 determine where whether it's going to be this afternoon or

11:30:07 later date.

11:30:07 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well, Mr. Snelling's report is a very

11:30:13 important subject on homelessness, and the assistance

11:30:17 center.

11:30:17 So I would suggest if council would entertain that we break

11:30:21 from lunch and come back and hear the other two workshops.

11:30:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: We need four votes.

11:30:26 >> Second that.

11:30:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Ms. Montelione, second by Mr.

11:30:30 Cohen.

11:30:31 At what time do you want to come back?

11:30:35 >>LISA MONTELIONE: 1:00?

11:30:36 1:30.

11:30:37 >> I have Ms. Mulhern and Mr. Reddick on that.

11:30:40 >> Mr. Chairman, are you going to be back after?

11:30:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have 11:00 30 and I have a 2:00 on a

11:30:51 report that's going to be heard and presented on voting

11:30:55 rights at 2:00.




11:30:56 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Today?

11:30:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Today, yes, ma'am.

11:31:00 >> I have a 1:30 so I am not going to be able to be back

11:31:07 this afternoon.

11:31:07 >>FRANK REDDICK: I have the same problem.

11:31:10 I will not be here.

11:31:12 I have some other things going on.

11:31:13 >> I agree it is an important issue, and I do not have a

11:31:24 PowerPoint information.

11:31:26 I would like to give the information that I have, and then

11:31:26 take direction on how you want to go for further discussion.

11:31:30 But I do not have a PowerPoint presentation because it's

11:31:34 words.

11:31:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Ms. Capin.

11:31:39 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I would like to hear this report, and then

11:31:43 break for lunch.

11:31:44 And I don't know that we'll have a quorum at 1:30.

11:31:49 For alcoholic beverage.

11:31:52 We can reschedule.

11:31:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I don't think we will have time possibly

11:31:59 to hear Mr. Snelling in 30 minutes.

11:32:01 I may be wrong.

11:32:02 >>LISA MONTELIONE: We have Mr. Suarez is back.

11:32:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a conflict at 2:30 so it would

11:32:12 shorten whatever --




11:32:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: There's a motion on the floor being

11:32:19 withdrawn and the second to come back at 1:30.

11:32:28 We can set this for another date to whatever is necessary.

11:32:31 But today, it happens that I have two things that came upon

11:32:36 me as chairman to do, and one of them is at 11:30 and the

11:32:41 other is at 2:00.

11:32:44 So I can't be in three places at once.

11:32:46 >>HARRY COHEN: I would make a motion to reschedule the

11:32:51 alcoholic beverages permitting discussion for our next

11:33:00 regular meeting on February 2nd, because our workshops

11:33:03 are awfully filled, but I think we could do that workshop at

11:33:07 the end of the meeting, and then hear the homeless report

11:33:10 now.

11:33:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mr. Cohen, second by

11:33:14 Mr. Reddick.

11:33:21 Alcohol discussion, permitting enforcement on February

11:33:27 2nd at the end of the regular council meeting.

11:33:29 Am I correct?

11:33:30 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.

11:33:33 Opposed, nay.

11:33:34 And I apologize, but sometimes as we go along it's better to

11:33:41 get all the information than rush through an item and get

11:33:44 the real facts while we are here.

11:33:46 All right, you have the floor.

11:33:50 And I have to leave.




11:33:55 >>THOM SNELLING: Growth management development services.

11:33:59 I was asked to come back today and report, report on a

11:34:03 recommended site for the homeless assistance center.

11:34:06 And what we have done when we were looking at the area, we

11:34:12 trade to look for a facility that was in the central area of

11:34:16 the City of Tampa, primarily because a lot of the major

11:34:20 other participants would have the support, centrally

11:34:25 located.

11:34:25 It wouldn't have to be adjacent but certainly had a criteria

11:34:29 of having something approximate to that area.

11:34:32 Basically what the city has in terms of its facilities and

11:34:35 properties and buildings, the first is that we have a number

11:34:40 of scattered lots.

11:34:42 You are very familiar with those that have come to the city

11:34:44 through various federal programs, various acquisitions, some

11:34:50 of the activity that took place in Sulphur Springs or East

11:34:52 Tampa, parts of West Tampa.

11:34:55 Those are typically single lot oriented, not single family

11:35:01 lots but just single lots, one small lot at a time, and

11:35:03 those aren't really appropriate for any type of facility of

11:35:06 this nature.

11:35:08 As well as potential location being more embedded into the

11:35:12 neighborhood themselves.

11:35:13 The other part of that category is basically 50 feet, they

11:35:24 are not really usable for anything.




11:35:25 The second general group is where the city's buildings and

11:35:29 facilities are located, such as this facility we are in now,

11:35:34 the office building across the court yard, the police and

11:35:36 fire stations, the parks and recreation states, the

11:35:40 community centers, the utility and public works buildings,

11:35:44 and treatment facilities.

11:35:50 And obviously the city can't use those for anything but what

11:35:54 they are being used for.

11:35:57 So the reality is that nothing jumps up and says this is

11:35:59 where we have available for our city.

11:36:01 So we don't really have, unfortunately, the reality is that

11:36:04 the city does not have a large facility available for use in

11:36:09 such a facility as this, nor do we have property that could

11:36:14 be used for such a facility.

11:36:23 We were looking at Pinellas safe harbor as a very general

11:36:26 model because there's a lot of discussion as to how that

11:36:29 would take place.

11:36:29 And with that model, we simply don't have anything like

11:36:33 that.

11:36:35 So in the meantime, once we concluded that, that we really

11:36:39 didn't have property for that use, what we have focused on

11:36:42 is we have been working, a multi-partner group working in

11:36:48 concert with prominent business leaders, Hillsborough

11:36:50 County, homeless coalition, the school board, and other

11:36:55 commissioners to try to come up with a plan and a program as




11:37:02 to how they are going to work with homeless population, and

11:37:04 what they are going to do.

11:37:06 This group is in the process, they will complete their

11:37:09 development of their plan in the near future, probably

11:37:12 February or March, and they will go public with that, and

11:37:15 I'm sure going to come in front of City Council and talk

11:37:17 about what their approach was.

11:37:19 In general, it's a housing first program, housing first

11:37:23 initiative, where you put people in housing and then address

11:37:27 the needs of how they became homeless in the first place.

11:37:30 It's generally the chronic homeless is roughly 30, 35%, and

11:37:35 this is really focused on they had success rates, models

11:37:41 that were successful in Santa Monica, Los Angeles, they have

11:37:44 had very good success rate and trying to bring that here.

11:37:47 The important thing to know about that is that it's a really

11:37:52 collaborative effort with government and private sector.

11:37:55 With private sector, quite frankly, taking a lead in

11:37:59 Hillsborough County, and City of Tampa and school board, and

11:38:02 other social servicagable sis participating as partners in

11:38:05 support.

11:38:11 The City of Tampa 40 years ago stopped doing these type of

11:38:15 social services.

11:38:17 Certified housing programs certainly can be looked at and of

11:38:21 those kinds of things.

11:38:22 We fund agencies that do social services.




11:38:26 But the on the ground running of the City of Tampa really

11:38:29 doesn't do that.

11:38:30 So it's important to pass what we have been looking at.

11:38:36 That group is in the process of wanting to come back.

11:38:41 They have asked that we not divulge a lot of details of what

11:38:47 they are planning, and I intend to honor them and let them

11:38:50 come forward and speak on what they want to talk about, how

11:38:53 they want to approach.

11:38:54 And once they have that plan in place, the city will

11:38:57 identify what would be the most appropriate place where the

11:39:03 city can assert its support and apply appropriate resources,

11:39:09 and help with that facility.

11:39:13 So I would entertain questions if you have them.

11:39:14 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilman Cohen, then Councilwoman Capin.

11:39:19 >>HARRY COHEN: I think it's difficult without the details

11:39:23 of the program that's being worked on obviously for us to

11:39:27 make judgments or evaluations about what's being done.

11:39:30 I'm sure the group is working hard, and will come up with

11:39:33 some good recommendations.

11:39:34 But I would just like to say a couple of things on this

11:39:37 item.

11:39:39 Because during our discussion on street solicitation, we

11:39:44 meantimes programs to come back to this item and address it,

11:39:47 and the problem is acute and it's difficult now as it was

11:39:52 six months ago, and it's not getting any better.




11:39:56 Takes very difficult problem for the cities to deal with,

11:39:58 and it's very important for people to understand what you

11:40:00 were saying earlier, because the city does not have any

11:40:04 resources that are specifically designated to deal with

11:40:08 social services, like we would want to provide for the

11:40:12 homeless population.

11:40:13 However, it is a city problem, because a great number of

11:40:18 these people are living in the city, they are existing on

11:40:21 city streets, and even though it's not a specific charge of

11:40:26 our government, it's something that affects the daily lives

11:40:29 of our citizens.

11:40:31 Over the past couple of months, safe harbor and Pinellas

11:40:37 hope, I went with Dr. Wilson who has been in front of us to

11:40:40 talk about some of these issues, and I was extremely

11:40:45 impressed by the centralized approach that the Pinellas

11:40:49 County sheriff's office, in particular, brought to the

11:40:53 Pinellas safe harbor site.

11:40:55 They took an old, not being used jail on the ground of their

11:41:00 criminal justice complex, and basically turned it into both

11:41:05 a dormitory and a one-stop shop for services.

11:41:09 And I just want to throw out there into the public

11:41:13 discussion the fact that not only do we have the orient road

11:41:17 jail, which is not being fully utilized, but we have just

11:41:21 heard an announcement recently that governor Scott has

11:41:24 proposed closing a female prison in Riverview that has been




11:41:28 run by the state for a number of years.

11:41:30 So I would just want to mention that there are two

11:41:35 facilities in the county that could be used exactly the way

11:41:39 that the Pinellas safe harbor site is being used.

11:41:43 And it really behalves us to look at the feasibilities of

11:41:47 that, particularly the new women's prison that was not on

11:41:49 the radar just a number of weeks ago, because it's my view

11:41:54 that a comprehensive approach like the one that's being

11:41:59 offered in Pinellas County really serves to Dale with a lot

11:42:05 of problems that we are trying to solve here, particularly

11:42:08 the housing problem.

11:42:11 Pinellas Safe Harbor, they have, I believe, up to 600 people

11:42:15 a night in a very secure, clean, comfortable environment,

11:42:22 and they have very little difficulty with discipline

11:42:25 problems or crime or anything like that.

11:42:27 It's really been a very successful program.

11:42:30 And I just hope that as we get details from the group that's

11:42:34 meeting now, as we continue to talk about this issue, that

11:42:37 that is something that people will look at.

11:42:39 Because the facilities are there, and it's really a terrible

11:42:44 shame that we are not making better use of them to have try

11:42:46 to help people that need a place to stay.

11:42:49 >> I was trying to remember the name that was given to

11:42:56 private sector group that was put together under the

11:42:59 previous administration, and that went nowhere.




11:43:07 We are talking about a report, maybe February, maybe March.

11:43:10 March is six months from September which is when this motion

11:43:14 was made.

11:43:24 One of the things that I suggested, the same way the

11:43:26 children's museum came about, which was a city-county

11:43:33 private sector, is the other part of it.

11:43:37 And that's why we asked, and asked to look at one property

11:43:43 in particular, one was not mentioned at all, I'm assuming

11:43:47 not the ones that's not available which was on 30th

11:43:50 street underutilized park in an area that again it is land.

11:44:00 That is what we did, the city provided the land, the county

11:44:04 moneys, and private sector.

11:44:06 So I can't remember the name of the group.

11:44:09 If anyone remembers --

11:44:12 >>MARY MULHERN: The champion?

11:44:16 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yes, the champion, and they totally

11:44:18 participated.

11:44:19 Here we are.

11:44:20 When was that?

11:44:25 Seven or eight years ago.

11:44:26 And here we are eight years later, and we have another

11:44:30 private sector group promising to come forth with

11:44:35 recommendations.

11:44:42 March would make six months since the motion was made and I

11:44:51 think that would be enough time.




11:44:53 I would like to hear a report.

11:44:54 I would also like --

11:44:58 >> Well, it's a private sector enterprise and the city is

11:45:01 participating along with them, and they organized

11:45:03 themselves, they are bringing themselves together.

11:45:07 These are private local prominent business men and women

11:45:11 doing this and they are not looking for money from the

11:45:16 government.

11:45:17 They are doing it themselves because they realize the issue

11:45:19 of homelessness not just in the City of Tampa but the entire

11:45:23 bay area and the county affects the quality of life for the

11:45:27 homeless population, and they acknowledge us and recognize

11:45:32 that.

11:45:32 And to my knowledge, it's a totally private sector initiated

11:45:38 and driven group is taking charge of this and trying to move

11:45:43 it.

11:45:43 There are other agencies out there frankly that should have

11:45:45 been doing this before, that their mission is to do this

11:45:50 contained of thing.

11:45:52 And they are in there participating in that.

11:45:56 The city is intending to do as much as it can as a

11:45:59 participant in this.

11:46:00 It cannot be a lead agency to take charge of such an effort.

11:46:09 >>YVONNE CAPIN: That's what happened with the last private

11:46:11 group.




11:46:11 I hope this one is much more successful.

11:46:13 Thank you.

11:46:13 >>MARY MULHERN: Anyone else?

11:46:16 Council?

11:46:18 I want to say a couple of things.

11:46:23 What this council has been asking for is for some leadership

11:46:28 from the administration in helping this go forward.

11:46:31 So I think if you are saying there is some, you know, group

11:46:39 that is coming together, that the administration, I hope, is

11:46:44 working with us --

11:46:46 >> As of two weeks ago.

11:46:49 >> They haven't named the group?

11:46:51 Do they have a chairperson?

11:47:00 >>THOM SNELLING: Yes, they do have a name.

11:47:01 The chronic homeless solutions committee.

11:47:03 >>MARY MULHERN: Chronic homeless solutions committee.

11:47:08 Thank you.

11:47:09 That's helpful.

11:47:10 Can you tell us anyone working on this committee?

11:47:13 >>THOM SNELLING: I would rather not, council.

11:47:14 I would rather honor what they asked me not to do and I

11:47:17 don't want to put them in a position where --

11:47:19 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay, I think when we asked for this report

11:47:25 from you, it's specifically because we felt, what can the

11:47:29 city provide?




11:47:30 And it was maybe some property.

11:47:33 So you are telling us we can't.

11:47:36 I just want to say that I don't want to hear any more about

11:47:39 how the City of Tampa historically hasn't been in the

11:47:45 business.

11:47:45 I'm sorry.

11:47:46 Our citizens are being foreclosed on.

11:47:48 Our area, central Florida, has one third of the homeless

11:47:52 people in the country.

11:47:54 It is our business.

11:47:55 So I just do not want to hear that anymore that we are not

11:47:59 consistent.

11:48:02 This council has told you, all of us, that we are trying to

11:48:06 help feigned some solutions to this.

11:48:09 So I feel like the message we are getting is that, you

11:48:14 know -- now, you got nothing, basically.

11:48:20 You got nothing.

11:48:20 We can't find anywhere for them to go.

11:48:23 So let me suggest other questions.

11:48:26 >> Not as far as Pinellas hope.

11:48:33 >>MARY MULHERN: And is this chronic homeless group working

11:48:37 with us?

11:48:39 >>THOM SNELLING: I am sure they have reached out.

11:48:40 They have looked at a number of models.

11:48:43 Similar to the housing first model.




11:48:44 The reality is the chronic homeless, you know, 30 to 50%

11:48:48 depending on what you are looking at, are the people that

11:48:50 are out there all the time, not just for months but like for

11:48:56 years.

11:48:56 If you address 50% of the homeless populations of housing

11:48:59 first, a minimum of 30%, possibly 50%.

11:49:07 And they are --

11:49:09 >>MARY MULHERN: Well, anyone --

11:49:11 >> I'm sorry?

11:49:11 >>MARY MULHERN: Anyone you can provide help to is a model.

11:49:15 Councilman Cohen was saying the model --

11:49:21 >>THOM SNELLING: Continuing to empower and say here is a

11:49:25 shower, go back out there and be homeless, and when you feel

11:49:27 like having a shower, you need to come back in, we'll take

11:49:32 care of you.

11:49:33 That's a part of it, but you have to find a house.

11:49:35 And that's what they are really focusing on is finding a

11:49:38 place to live, to stop being homeless.

11:49:40 And then you can address the abuse issues, or the drug

11:49:45 dependencies, or the emotional dependencies or problems they

11:49:48 have, and then move forward with just having somebody become

11:49:55 productive again and still provide the other kinds of, now,

11:49:57 day to day services that the city provides millions of

11:50:01 dollars, to dozens of agencies throughout the city to do

11:50:04 exactly that.




11:50:05 But to characterize that the city is not doing anything,

11:50:07 that we don't care, is not a fair characterization.

11:50:10 >>MARY MULHERN: Well, if you can't give us any specific

11:50:14 things you are doing, or any money that's being committed --

11:50:17 and I was going to say one other thing, and then --

11:50:22 >> We have given you a presentation before with the millions

11:50:25 of dollars that have been given to the homeless situation,

11:50:28 and the hundreds of housing units that have been built to

11:50:31 accommodate super low income individuals.

11:50:35 And emergency shelter plans.

11:50:37 And assistance to transitional housing with Metropolitan

11:50:42 Ministries and Salvation Army.

11:50:43 All of those are city funded dollars, city directed dollars

11:50:47 to those agencies to provide the kinds of housing that we

11:50:49 are talking about.

11:50:50 >>MARY MULHERN: That's money that traditionally -- I think

11:50:54 when you talk about historically and traditionally, the

11:50:56 reality is we are in a historically bad situation right now,

11:51:00 so we need to think of new ways we can do things.

11:51:03 And I think you are talking about federal grants, and which

11:51:08 we know now are getting cut, now our CDBG -- I don't know.

11:51:16 I'm sorry.

11:51:18 Councilwoman Montelione.

11:51:20 Councilman Reddick.

11:51:22 And Councilman Cohen.




11:51:23 >>LISA MONTELIONE: If I am thinking that the group that you

11:51:27 mentioned by name, that request is that you not reveal

11:51:32 details of what they are working on, I think I know who you

11:51:35 are talking about, and I think I know some, not a lot, but

11:51:39 some of what they are doing.

11:51:40 And what they are doing is they are looking -- and this is

11:51:45 something that Councilman Cohen had recommended I think a

11:51:47 while back, that we not only look to our immediate region

11:51:53 for solutions, but look at what other areas around the

11:51:56 country are doing, because this isn't a problem particular

11:52:02 to us here in Florida, and this group is doing just that.

11:52:07 They have had a couple of trips outside the state to

11:52:11 different cities -- I can't remember which cities they

11:52:14 were -- looking at models that are working, looking at

11:52:18 what's not working, and the individuals who -- I don't know

11:52:24 all the individuals that are on this, that are involved in

11:52:28 this group.

11:52:29 I know a few of them.

11:52:30 And a couple of them are very highly placed in the community

11:52:37 with deep pockets.

11:52:38 So they are going out and looking at programs that will

11:52:44 work, that will translate well here, and the people that are

11:52:47 involved are ones that can get behind it and make it happen

11:52:51 from a dollar standpoint.

11:52:52 Now, that's the other group that came here before that




11:52:58 council was talking about, that they were out looking for a

11:53:00 facility, and that was the group that Dr. Wilson and Sara

11:53:05 Romeo were part of.

11:53:07 So those are two separate groups.

11:53:08 So we have two different groups out there looking for

11:53:12 solutions, one on a much larger scale and one on an

11:53:17 individual, a smaller scale, if you will.

11:53:21 And what we have done in the past, and the money that we put

11:53:30 into affordable housing, is to me going to help those

11:53:37 individuals who are displaced because of the loss of a job

11:53:40 or because of the loss of maybe one or two that they

11:53:47 previously had.

11:53:47 Those programs aren't going to help the chronically

11:53:50 homeless, the ones who have issues related to traumatized,

11:53:57 or that have been traumatized and have mental health issues

11:54:00 or have abuse and addiction issues.

11:54:02 So that's a separate group of people.

11:54:05 Most live what I think the city has done is help individuals

11:54:09 who are on the higher performing standard of individuals who

11:54:17 are homeless.

11:54:18 So we haven't gotten into helping chronically homeless.

11:54:24 And it's again something that when we talk about, wave our

11:54:28 CDBG workshop coming up, we talk about how our funds are

11:54:33 going to be used, we could have the discussion of where we

11:54:35 are going to direct those dollars and maybe looking next




11:54:37 year at utilizing the little bit of money we will have,

11:54:42 because 30% and 40% respectively between HOME and SHIP cuts,

11:54:51 and we'll have to, I think, turn the model upside down of

11:54:55 what we have been doing in the past and what we need to do

11:54:57 in the future.

11:54:58 So it's very frustrating.

11:54:59 Eight years is way too long.

11:55:01 Again as I said in the previous workshop, if we knew what

11:55:04 was wrong, and we could see it happening, and we did

11:55:07 something about it, while we start fumbling around this, we

11:55:11 wouldn't be where we are today.

11:55:13 Between eight years ago and now, we have really tackled the

11:55:18 problem and started implementing solutions.

11:55:21 We wouldn't have this issue.

11:55:23 It would have been affected by economy, but we would have

11:55:28 had some support structure in place to deal with the problem

11:55:32 of the economy collapsing.

11:55:35 So there is a luncheon that the homeless coalition is having

11:55:39 to introduce people to solutions, to get them involved, to

11:55:43 reach out, normal scope of people who are involved with

11:55:47 them.

11:55:48 It's February 23rd.

11:55:49 If anybody wants to go, please contact my office and I will

11:55:52 make those accommodations.

11:55:54 Thank you.




11:55:54 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilman Reddick.

11:56:03 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And the lunch is free.

11:56:05 It's at Hyde Park united Methodist church.

11:56:10 If you want to get involved in helping the homeless, let me

11:56:12 know.

11:56:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.

11:56:15 Madam Chair, I just want to go back to show my

11:56:19 disappointment, because if you look at item number 6 -- and

11:56:25 I think the original statement of this motion says that we

11:56:32 want staff to come back with a recommended site, or some

11:56:37 site, or some facility.

11:56:41 That's been a long time.

11:56:43 So it was my impression that we would come in here with some

11:56:47 site, a possible site, to say a site, and I thought that was

11:57:03 going to be today.

11:57:04 If you look at the city, the city owns over 1700 pieces of

11:57:09 property, owns 1700 pieces of property in this city.

11:57:16 And you are telling me you can't find a building, a

11:57:22 facility, and I know you have got one.

11:57:25 You have got one on North Boulevard because you just kicked

11:57:29 out an organization.

11:57:35 So that's on North Boulevard that could be utilize for this

11:57:43 issue that we are talking about.

11:57:45 But we have got other buildings in this city, other homes,

11:57:51 that will be converted into -- so there's no excuse.




11:57:59 When you come here and say, wave not found anything, when

11:58:06 you have over 1700 pieces of property sitting in this city,

11:58:12 and if people don't believe me, see how the property pops

11:58:21 up.

11:58:21 And that is the problem, that I just can't believe we have

11:58:28 been sitting here all this time and there's not one peace of

11:58:31 property to address this homeless population in this city.

11:58:37 We shouldn't have to be worried about some other

11:58:40 organization.

11:58:40 We should be doing a collaborative joint effort with them

11:58:43 saying here is the property, let's renovate this property,

11:58:50 make a difference to these people.

11:59:00 If anyone in administration says we don't have no problems

11:59:04 that is suitable, that is a joke, because you can start on

11:59:09 North Boulevard and across the bridge, and you will find one

11:59:16 property that you just kicked out a tenant after January

11:59:23 16th of this year, and that's a free building.

11:59:28 But it's a problem, so developers can come in and redevelop.

11:59:40 Well, part of that redevelopment is for the homeless

11:59:44 population.

11:59:45 And if we are serious about these 1700 pieces of property

11:59:55 for redevelopment.

11:59:57 I'm disappointed that we are sitting here today and waited

12:00:03 on this report a long, long time.

12:00:04 And disappointed the because we haven't got what we




12:00:10 requested, and we are talking about moving the problem to

12:00:20 another organization, another group.

12:00:22 Why can't we take the lead?

12:00:26 That's my question.

12:00:27 Why can't this city take the lead?

12:00:32 To stand up and address the issue because you know the more

12:00:41 people you pull off the street, pertaining to panhandling,

12:00:47 back out there again, and they are not selling newspapers,

12:00:52 they are selling that water.

12:00:54 Now, these people, there's going to be an issue we are going

12:01:02 to have to address, because they are back out.

12:01:06 You see the numbers increasing.

12:01:08 And it's not newspapers in their hand, it's bottles of water

12:01:13 they are selling.

12:01:14 And I tell you, it's a shame for them to sit here today and

12:01:18 not get what we needed when we have been waiting on this

12:01:21 report, 1700 pieces of property in the city.

12:01:26 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.

12:01:30 >>HARRY COHEN: Motion to go past 12, till 12:10.

12:01:34 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?

12:01:35 Anyone opposed?

12:01:36 I don't know, Councilwoman Capin?

12:01:41 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yes, thank you.

12:01:41 You know, we need to use our resources wisely.

12:01:44 And the last -- when I made this motion back in September,




12:01:48 or the suggestion, I said we are a strong and decent city,

12:01:52 and I believe that.

12:01:53 I believe it with every fiber of my body.

12:01:58 I also agree -- and thank you, Councilman Reddick -- that we

12:02:02 should take the leadership.

12:02:03 When you talk about the community and the deep pockets that

12:02:06 are there, you should have seen the deep pockets that were

12:02:08 there seven years ago, and we are here today.

12:02:15 And I am so glad the CDBG is coming up, because we need to

12:02:19 look at where those millions of dollars are going, because

12:02:22 wherever they have been going, it hasn't worked.

12:02:27 It's not working.

12:02:30 Therefore, it is very important that we look at where that

12:02:35 money is being given, year after year after year.

12:02:40 It is very important.

12:02:41 And we as council will take the lead and we will keep on

12:02:47 them, and at least I will not stop asking, where is it?

12:02:53 What are we doing?

12:02:55 March is the six month anniversary of the motion.

12:03:00 If they could pleas come back to us in March, it would be

12:03:04 very, very helpful.

12:03:05 And hopefully there's a huge, huge presence of outcome, and

12:03:13 we have something that we can say to our citizens and our

12:03:17 constituents that we are working on it.

12:03:21 It is our problem.




12:03:22 It is our problem.

12:03:23 The city's problem.

12:03:28 Again, it is very disappointing to hear that.

12:03:30 But I'm hoping -- holding out hope than they are very --

12:03:38 they are very serious and that we will get some results from

12:03:40 this.

12:03:44 >>THOM SNELLING: Again, as Councilwoman Montelione pointed

12:03:47 out, we are focusing on the chronic -- the chronic homeless.

12:03:50 That's their mission.

12:03:51 And those are the men and women and families who have been

12:03:56 homeless, before the economic downturn, because of

12:03:59 emotional, substance, or other disadvantaged types of

12:04:04 problems.

12:04:06 They are chronically homeless.

12:04:08 And that's what their focus is on.

12:04:10 The homeless coalition, the dozens and dozens of agencies

12:04:15 that they work with focuses on a lot of the other services

12:04:19 that do not focus on the chronic. They do some of that, but

12:04:23 a lot of it is provisional services.

12:04:26 The city is a very strong participant in everything that

12:04:28 they do both financially as well as having house facility

12:04:32 for them to operate their offices, to operate their offices,

12:04:37 and working with them as a partner.

12:04:39 The city is a partner with a lot of agencies trying to work

12:04:43 on this issue.




12:04:44 And other agencies whose mission, whose singular mission is

12:04:48 the homeless situation is the one that we are looking to to

12:04:53 be the lead, and we will be the supportive person bringing

12:04:56 as much resource as we can to the table.

12:04:58 And as much staff time, and will including whatever

12:05:01 financial resources we have available.

12:05:08 >>YVONNE CAPIN: You know, I am going to finish.

12:05:09 Please don't come back here empty handed.

12:05:12 Don't come back.

12:05:14 If we have nothing, don't come back -- this is what we have

12:05:19 been told.

12:05:24 It is beyond upsetting.

12:05:27 We know the chronic.

12:05:28 We understand what's out there.

12:05:29 We knew it when the panhandling ordinance came through.

12:05:32 We knew it.

12:05:34 We have been looking at this for years.

12:05:39 So I ask that if the report is the same as today, I just as

12:05:52 San --

12:05:53 >> They are not going to say we have a facility where all

12:05:56 these people can go in.

12:05:58 That's not what their mission is.

12:05:59 The mission is to focus on the chronically homeless and

12:06:02 feigned place force those people to live.

12:06:04 Not a single facility, but in multiple places, multiple




12:06:07 individual housing units where they can live.

12:06:10 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Well, that isn't empty handed.

12:06:12 I'm not asking for a facility.

12:06:13 It was a suggestion of a facility or a property, in

12:06:20 combination with the county and private sector.

12:06:24 That's what I had suggested in the first place.

12:06:26 >>HARRY COHEN: I think what you are hearing today from this

12:06:33 council is real anguish over the fact that we don't seem to

12:06:36 be able to make any progress on this issue, and the fact

12:06:39 that there's a group addressing the chronic homeless

12:06:42 problem, I think it's terrific and they should be applauded.

12:06:45 But what that also means is that no one out there is

12:06:48 addressing the issue of trying to find a centralized

12:06:52 location where we can deal with another group of citizens,

12:06:56 and what Councilman Reddick was talking about in terms of

12:07:01 providing a place, the reason it's so important is because

12:07:04 while Pinellas safe harbor started out as an arrest

12:07:08 diversion program, what's happened there now is that they

12:07:11 are providing a dormitory-like environment with showers and

12:07:15 food for people who are working to get themselves back on

12:07:20 their feet so that they can then move on back into normal

12:07:25 society and living on their own.

12:07:28 We do not have a facility like that anywhere in Hillsborough

12:07:32 County, and it doesn't sound to me like anyone is looking

12:07:35 for it.




12:07:36 So my view is that if we continue to go around in circles,

12:07:40 it's going to be up to us, it's going to be up to us through

12:07:45 the budget process, through the money that we appropriate,

12:07:49 to find a site and to find the moneys to pay for it, because

12:07:54 it just doesn't seem like anyone else is out there even

12:07:57 looking for it.

12:07:59 So I suggest that that's what we are going to have to do.

12:08:02 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilwoman Montelione.

12:08:08 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I would like to make a motion that on

12:08:12 February 16th, our regular discussion of council at

12:08:18 9:30a.m. Mr. Snelling come back -- well, I don't want to

12:08:26 wait six months till March.

12:08:31 It was March 1st, six-month anniversary.

12:08:34 So I say if we really -- if we are this anguished and we

12:08:39 really want to find something, we bring Mr. Snelling back

12:08:41 every month until we make some progress.

12:08:45 So February 16th at our regular session of Council at

12:08:52 9:30 a.m. so that we may, under staff reports, under staff

12:08:58 reports, at 10 a.m.

12:09:03 To further this discussion, to maybe by then bring back a

12:09:06 report from the two groups that I know of that are working

12:09:09 out there on where they are at, what their plans are, and

12:09:16 what assistance we can be and what leadership role we can

12:09:21 take in their efforts.

12:09:21 >>MARY MULHERN: Got a motion on the floor.




12:09:28 >>HARRY COHEN: I wanted to -- Councilman Reddick seconded.

12:09:33 I wanted to say that I certainly concur with that but I

12:09:36 think we ought to also come back with our own ideas of what

12:09:39 we might be do to solve this problem and not wait to be led

12:09:43 into a solution.

12:09:44 We need to go out ourselves and start finding a solution.

12:09:47 >>MARY MULHERN: Is that a motion?

12:09:50 [ Laughter ]

12:09:52 Any other comments?

12:09:56 Okay, sorry.

12:09:57 Month.

12:09:59 >>YVONNE CAPIN: If that's a motion, that will be a second

12:10:01 motion.

12:10:01 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well, I think that is an addendum, an

12:10:05 addition to the motion, that we come back.

12:10:11 >> I wanted to say one other thing.

12:10:15 To Councilman Cohen, in addition to that motion is that as

12:10:23 far as the budget goes, I tried to get really creative about

12:10:28 all the money, $50 million federal grants we are getting for

12:10:31 the RNC for security.

12:10:36 And that was a little too creative.

12:10:38 And I was told before I even got out of the meeting there

12:10:42 was no way to use any of that money to help with

12:10:44 homelessness.

12:10:45 But I would like to point out -- in fact I have an article,




12:10:48 I just got today from Charlotte about their funding that

12:10:53 they are getting for the democratic convention in Charlotte,

12:10:57 and they are using that money that they are getting, a lot

12:11:01 of the money, for buying equipment, and supplies for the

12:11:07 Charlotte police department that is equipment that will be

12:11:12 in use regularly for a long period of time.

12:11:15 So what I am just bringing up as a possibility, to think

12:11:21 about, is that we are getting $50 million in one year to use

12:11:25 for our Tampa Police Department, and up to half of that is

12:11:31 going to be used for equipment, that we think about that

12:11:35 when we look at the budget for next year, and that we have

12:11:41 got all that money that we don't have to spend out of our

12:11:45 general fund, if we can be using that money for our police

12:11:48 department in the next budget.

12:11:50 So let's look at what we can take out of our general fund to

12:11:55 possibly help with this.

12:11:56 But I also want to commend the idea of this facility that

12:12:00 Councilman Cohen has some great ideas.

12:12:03 I did talk to Sheriff Gee, and he said no way, orient jail

12:12:10 we are not going to use, so you can look at the prison

12:12:15 that's going to be closed.

12:12:16 Although that's too bad, too, that we are going to be losing

12:12:19 that facility.

12:12:21 But as far as the budget goes, I would like to see that as

12:12:26 the expenditures of being brought to us for RNC expenses




12:12:33 that we make sure that we are spending that money on things

12:12:36 that we can then take money out of our general fund next

12:12:39 year to use for some of the other emergency -- another thing

12:12:45 I wanted to say, when you talk about chronic homelessness as

12:12:49 opposed to arrest diversion, I hate to tell you but there

12:12:51 are people, homelessness, the homeless people are just like

12:12:55 us.

12:12:58 We are all one paycheck away from whatever could happen.

12:13:01 To any of us.

12:13:02 So homeless people are not -- you can't subdivide them into,

12:13:05 you know, whether they are chronically homeless or whether

12:13:09 they are homeless -- you could be homeless tomorrow and you

12:13:13 don't know it.

12:13:13 So this is a very big problem.

12:13:16 And all of the things we are talking about are necessary,

12:13:22 and I think Councilman Reddick made a very, very clear point

12:13:27 that one thing that we do have that would not cost us

12:13:32 expenditures at this point is property that is not -- that

12:13:36 is owned by the city that is not being used.

12:13:38 So I hate to see us give up on that.

12:13:48 So there's a motion on the floor.

12:13:49 Motion made by Councilwoman Montelione, I think seconded by

12:13:52 Councilman Cohen.

12:13:57 All in favor?

12:13:59 Anyone opposed?




12:14:07 I believe we are past 12:10 so we need a motion to go to

12:14:12 12:20.

12:14:12 >> Second.

12:14:16 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?

12:14:19 All right.

12:14:19 So that concludes this item.

12:14:24 And we continued the other item.

12:14:29 And the motion to receive and fail, I think.

12:14:32 >>MIKE SUAREZ: So moved.

12:14:37 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Before you receive and file, we have a

12:14:38 report -- on February 2nd, when the alcoholic beverage

12:14:43 is coming forth, we have a staff report from legal, from the

12:14:47 same subject.

12:14:47 I would like to move that to the end so that they are

12:14:52 together.

12:14:52 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?

12:14:59 Motion to receive and file.

12:15:00 And then we'll move on.

12:15:01 >>FRANK REDDICK: Move to receive and file.

12:15:06 >> All in favor?

12:15:07 Public comment, Madam Chair?

12:15:09 >>MARY MULHERN: I'm sorry we didn't get the public comment

12:15:13 from our first workshop.

12:15:15 If anyone wishes to speak on either of the workshops that we

12:15:17 had, this is the opportunity.




12:15:28 >>MARGARET VIZZI: 213 South Sherill.

12:15:30 We were hoping maybe would you set a time for that alcoholic

12:15:33 beverage can be -- and glad you combined the two.

12:15:41 Could that be at 1:00?

12:15:43 I don't know what the agenda is.

12:15:46 Because there were several people here for that on both

12:15:49 sides.

12:15:54 That's the only thing.

12:15:56 >>MARY MULHERN: We could set it for 10:30.

12:16:02 >> Would that be a set time or not?

12:16:04 >> You meant when they call her because everybody wanted to

12:16:19 know if it would be a set time.

12:16:20 >>MARY MULHERN: It's a regular meeting.

12:16:23 So we don't know.

12:16:26 It's kind of hard.

12:16:28 We could set it at 10:30 which is the last, you know,

12:16:33 regular or time set.

12:16:40 I guess we could set it at 1:00 if council wanted to do

12:16:43 that.

12:16:45 >>MARGARET VIZZI: That's what we were maybe hoping so we

12:16:47 wouldn't be here.

12:16:48 But if we can't, we can't.

12:16:49 >>MARY MULHERN:

12:16:51 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Motion to set alcoholic workshop along

12:16:53 with staff report from legal for 1 p.m. on February 2nd.




12:16:57 >>HARRY COHEN: Second.

12:17:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Normally you -- normally you come back at

12:17:04 1:30 so you are making a motion to come back a half hour

12:17:06 early.

12:17:07 >>MARY MULHERN:

12:17:08 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I amend my motion to 1:30.

12:17:11 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Obviously the other point you don't know

12:17:13 how your morning will go, but you are requiring yourselves

12:17:17 to have a quorum for the 1:30 workshop.

12:17:23 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That's probably a good idea.

12:17:24 I amend my motion to 1:30, February 2nd for the

12:17:27 alcoholic beverage workshop along with staff report from

12:17:29 legal related to the same topic.

12:17:31 >>HARRY COHEN: Second.

12:17:34 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?

12:17:35 Anyone opposed?

12:17:36 Thank you.

12:17:37 >> My name is Harland Henry, an economic development

12:17:54 strategist and business consultant.

12:17:55 And I listened quite intently to the presentation by Mr.

12:18:04 Hart and your questions.

12:18:15 I have been involved in a lot of the contracting and

12:18:17 economic development type processes and certainly appreciate

12:18:26 his statistics.

12:18:29 I have been the adviser on pretty much this matter over ten




12:18:37 years, worked very closely with the Department of

12:18:39 Transportation and a number of other federal agencies

12:18:46 regarding this subject.

12:18:49 I must say that the matter before you, as far as the

12:18:56 contracting and making sure that all of these entities,

12:19:07 sufficiently well versed in all of this documentation, is

12:19:10 not unique to Tampa.

12:19:14 However, as far as a solution to this problem -- and I think

12:19:22 Mr. Reddick and Councilwoman Montelione hit on it -- is that

12:19:30 people who are out there, hundreds and hundreds of

12:19:40 businesses, women owned businesses, many of them don't have

12:19:42 a storefront or office so we don't know who they are.

12:19:47 The biggest issue is to reach these people.

12:19:52 I understand that Mr. Hart's office is so slim right now

12:20:02 that he can't do it.

12:20:05 So one of the things that, in my opinion, that I would

12:20:10 suggest as a solution, is that this tape of program has to

12:20:19 be outreached even to the present sector so that you have

12:20:25 people on the ground.

12:20:28 And I think Mr. Curren actually mentioned it, too, where you

12:20:36 have the people who are in the legal field who can help, and

12:20:40 there are other people like Mace who can actually walk

12:20:45 people through these documentation, because it is extremely

12:20:49 important that they do this.

12:20:53 (Bell sounds)




12:20:54 Part of the biggest problem is --

12:21:00 >>FRANK REDDICK: Madam characters can we extend by the two

12:21:02 more minutes?

12:21:10 >> Out there, and someone mentioned it, they did their job

12:21:13 in providing the documentation.

12:21:15 An excellent job of providing the documentation and telling

12:21:17 you where to go.

12:21:19 The biggest problem out there is having someone directly

12:21:26 assisting one or one or within a group pointing at helping

12:21:33 these people out there.

12:21:36 And I would conclude that as a solution, we really don't

12:21:41 need attach more statistics in itself on the ground, but

12:21:48 some work on the ground, hands on on the ground, because

12:21:52 right now, we have the G.O.P. program, the convention that's

12:21:58 coming here, and you are going to have a lot of small

12:22:04 businesses, women-owned businesses, that are not even going

12:22:07 to be part of this program because they are not registered,

12:22:14 they are not certified, and so they are the ultimate.

12:22:19 So I urge you, please, to let's get working helping the

12:22:24 people that need help by providing them with direct

12:22:31 assistance.

12:22:32 Thank you.

12:22:32 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.

12:22:38 Is there anyone else wishing to speak?

12:22:49 New business.




12:22:49 Start on my right with Councilman Suarez.

12:22:52 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.

12:22:53 If you can indulge me, I have about three -- more than that

12:22:56 but I have a few of them here.

12:22:58 So the first one I would like to do is I would like to amend

12:23:00 a motion I made at the last council meeting on the 19th.

12:23:05 We made a commendation for Steve Daignault who is retiring

12:23:10 as our administrator.

12:23:11 I would like to change that date from February 3rd to

12:23:14 February 2nd so we can present it to him next week when

12:23:17 he's here.

12:23:18 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?

12:23:19 Anyone opposed?

12:23:24 >> Next, make a motion to prepare a commendation

12:23:27 congratulating Matthew Sempe for obtaining his Eagle Scout

12:23:33 rank.

12:23:34 >> Second.

12:23:35 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?

12:23:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Another commendation to another young man on

12:23:40 his Eagle Scout rank, John Torres Sutton.

12:23:43 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?

12:23:47 Anyone opposed?

12:23:47 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Three more.

12:23:51 Sorry.

12:23:52 Council, I would like to make a motion that council welcome




12:23:56 a presentation from Robio Palome, Florida Can, in the March

12:24:05 15th council meeting.

12:24:06 Florida Can promotes readiness, access and success on Wall

12:24:12 Street, income and first generation.

12:24:17 Oh, the date on the 15th, the time would be -- let me

12:24:25 see what's on the 15th.

12:24:28 If we could make it at 9:00 a.m.

12:24:32 March 15th.

12:24:33 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?

12:24:35 Anyone opposed?

12:24:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: And that we also move -- I have no idea what

12:24:46 I am doing -- motion to support a resolution for review and

12:24:49 approval at the March 15th council meeting for the

12:24:52 Florida College Access Network, and the resolution will

12:24:54 support and encourage the empowerment of communities to work

12:24:56 together with schools, universities, college organizations

12:25:00 and so on, to promote college readiness for our youth.

12:25:03 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?

12:25:05 Anyone opposed?

12:25:06 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I apologize.

12:25:08 One last indulgence.

12:25:10 I would like to make a motion to send a letter of greeting

12:25:13 to Guyanese Cultural Network of Tampa Bay, their 501(c)3

12:25:19 nonprofit nonpolitical network that supports political

12:25:22 endeavors such as "Paint Your Heart Out" to be presented at




12:25:26 their second annual dinner dance on Saturday, February

12:25:29 11th.

12:25:30 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?

12:25:32 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you very much.

12:25:33 >>MARY MULHERN: I did that quick for all those motions.

12:25:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Forgive me for interrupting but I want to

12:25:40 be clear your motion for 9:00 a.m.

12:25:43 Did you set an amount of time?

12:25:47 >>MIKE SUAREZ: No more than ten minutes.

12:25:48 >>LISA MONTELIONE: We moved the meeting to 12:20 and it's

12:25:52 12:25.

12:25:56 Let's say 12:35 so we can get all the way around the floor

12:26:00 here.

12:26:00 >>HARRY COHEN: Second.

12:26:02 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?

12:26:07 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Just an announcement.

12:26:10 I would like for Tampa City Council to welcome back number

12:26:14 23 of the Tampa Bay Rays, Carlos Pena.

12:26:16 We are happy to have him back home.

12:26:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I second that.

12:26:24 >>MARY MULHERN: Do you want to invite him to come?

12:26:29 >> That would be great.

12:26:31 >>MARY MULHERN: February 16th, is that it?

12:26:34 Or 17th?

12:26:34 Whatever.




12:26:35 February 16th.

12:26:39 If he's in town.

12:26:39 >> If he's in town, invite Carlos Pena, welcome him back

12:26:46 home.

12:26:46 That would be great.

12:26:47 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?

12:26:53 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Next --

12:26:59 >> Second.

12:27:00 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.

12:27:00 I would like to -- Gaspar is about to invade, and I would

12:27:06 like to tell you about that Jose also wore tights, and there

12:27:14 is the Gaspar ballet at the Straz Center, and it is a

12:27:19 wonderful production.

12:27:20 It is Sunday, January 29th, 1 p.m. to 6:00 p.m., and you

12:27:27 can get ticket at www.gasparballet.com, and something

12:27:35 cultural to add to our invasion of the pirates.

12:27:39 That's it.

12:27:40 >>MARY MULHERN: How do you know he wore tights?

12:27:45 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Oh, wait, one more thing.

12:27:48 He wore tights, yes.

12:27:50 [ Laughter ]

12:27:51 At least he did in the parade.

12:27:57 Mickey Daniels of the Family Justice Center to make a

12:28:00 presentation to council on Thursday, February 23rd at

12:28:02 10:00 a.m., ten minutes.




12:28:04 >> Second.

12:28:08 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?

12:28:11 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.

12:28:11 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilman Reddick?

12:28:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you, Madam Chair.

12:28:17 Yes.

12:28:19 I want to make a motion to invite Frank Crum, coordinator

12:28:27 for the city, to come on February 7 at 9:00 a.m. to give us

12:28:31 an overview of the black history month program.

12:28:34 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?

12:28:37 Anyone opposed?

12:28:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: The second item is February 16, would like

12:28:42 to have Cathy Coyle to come up in staff reports to give us

12:28:48 an update of trinity cafe, the status from cafe to a

12:28:51 restaurant.

12:28:52 And to give an overview at 9:00 a.m. under staff reports.

12:28:58 On the 16th at 10.

12:29:01 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?

12:29:04 >>FRANK REDDICK: And finally, an interest in politics and

12:29:13 one day wants to sit up here with us, and he works in a law

12:29:18 office, and interested in city government.

12:29:20 >>MARY MULHERN: Mr. Shelby, did you have a question on one

12:29:28 of those motions?

12:29:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: The 9:00 presentation, did you want to

12:29:31 have a time limit?




12:29:43 >> It won't be long.

12:29:57 >>HARRY COHEN: One item.

12:29:58 I would like to make a motion to permit Brooke Wade, Erica

12:30:02 Dienes and Karli Marshall, who competed in the 15th

12:30:05 district American Legion Department of Florida oratorical

12:30:09 contest last Saturday to come before City Council to be

12:30:11 introduced and recognized on February 9 at 6:00 p.m.

12:30:16 >> Second.

12:30:16 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?

12:30:18 Thank you.

12:30:19 Councilwoman Montelione.

12:30:20 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Just one motion.

12:30:23 I want to add to the code enforcement workshop on March

12:30:30 22nd, solid waste code enforcement, also the solid waste has

12:30:37 their own code enforcement, and I would like staff to be

12:30:41 present as well.

12:30:41 >> Second.

12:30:44 >>MARY MULHERN: All in favor?

12:30:47 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.

12:30:48 >> Who seconded it?

12:30:51 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I did.

12:30:52 >>MARY MULHERN: Any other new business? Thank you.

12:30:57 We are adjourned.

12:31:02 >>

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