TAMPA CITY COUNCIL -
Community Redevelopment Agency
Thursday, March 8, 2012
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>>FRANK REDDICK: Good morning.
09:08:19 I call this Community Redevelopment Agency meeting to order.
09:08:22 At this time, I would like to yield to Councilman Suarez.
09:08:26 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, chair.
09:08:28 I would like to introduce our invocation speaker this
09:08:33 morning, somebody that is not a stranger to Tampa City
09:08:37 It's Deacon Scott Paine, serves at St. Mark, the Evangelist
09:08:46 Catholic Church, served on City Council from 1991 to 1999
09:08:49 and served on several state task forces and commissions on
09:08:53 growth management, transportation, and intergovernmental
09:08:56 He writes a regular column for quarterly city magazine and a
09:09:01 regular blog for Florida League of Cities and worked for
09:09:05 government leadership across the country, Florida league of
09:09:08 cities, leadership institute and was my professor at the
09:09:12 University of South Florida, was a great professor on
09:09:15 constitutional law and Congress, two classes I took with
09:09:19 you, and a wonderful, wonderful teacher. So, please,
09:09:21 everyone stand and remain standing for the pledge of
09:09:24 >> Scott Paine: Loving creator of all things, in recent
09:09:33 days the power of your creation has been brought forth to
09:09:35 our midns, whether it's massive solar flares or powerful
09:09:41 tornadoes. We are conscious of our dependency in this vast
09:09:48 universe on your mercy and your forbearance.
09:09:53 We ask that those of us who have earthly power remember our
09:09:57 own dependency on your mercy, and show mercy and kindness to
09:10:02 those who are dependent upon us, especially those most in
09:10:06 need of our care.
09:10:09 [ Pledge of Allegiance ]
09:10:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: Councilman Capin will not be present this
09:10:43 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
09:10:45 >>MARY MULHERN: Here.
09:10:46 >>HARRY COHEN: Here.
09:10:47 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Here.
09:10:48 >>FRANK REDDICK: Here.
09:10:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Here.
09:10:55 >> Bob McDonaugh.
09:11:00 Just a brief note before I start. I started my day today at
09:11:02 a breakfast for Meals on Wheels. And, you know, you a tend
09:11:06 something like that and it's another great reminder why it's
09:11:08 such a great place to live.
09:11:10 The room was chock full of people, they were chock full of
09:11:15 volunteers and people willing to help.
09:11:17 And it's just a reminder again that we have a great
09:11:20 community to live in.
09:11:21 Talking about our activity report for the last month, and I
09:11:27 did not know he was deacon Paine, but I have something
09:11:31 similar because he was talking about tornadoes.
09:11:33 Well, this past weekend we had the perfect storm in downtown
09:11:37 Friday night, we had a hockey game.
09:11:40 Saturday morning we had Gasparilla parade from the art show.
09:11:43 Saturday afternoon we had the bulls playing at the St. Pete
09:11:47 Times Forum.
09:11:49 Sunday we had Gasparilla races and the art show. So it was
09:11:53 really a fabulous weekend to be in downtown Tampa.
09:11:56 Saturday, we have the Gasparilla music fest happening, and
09:12:01 the downtown CRA is one of the sponsors and I hope you all
09:12:05 can attend.
09:12:05 They feel there was a gap missing in the activities that we
09:12:09 have in the large music fest for our downtown.
09:12:11 So I'm wishing great success.
09:12:13 I know ticket seals have been brisk.
09:12:17 We attended two and participated in two very important
09:12:20 events in the last couple of weeks.
09:12:22 Actually three.
09:12:24 Ms. Montelione scheduled a meeting of the federal bank and a
09:12:30 lot of our local banks to talk about blitz get some money
09:12:34 back out on the street.
09:12:35 We had the SBA attending.
09:12:38 It was an interesting discourse because on one hand you have
09:12:42 talk about keeping interest rates low to try to keep
09:12:45 inflation at bay, and then the bankers were talking about,
09:12:48 you want us to put money out on the street but we can't make
09:12:51 any money with the interest rates the way they are.
09:12:54 So it was a well participated and a very interesting meeting
09:12:57 that Ms. Montelione chaired.
09:13:01 We also had congresswoman Castor, had a foreclosure workshop
09:13:10 at the Hyatt, and it was amazing.
09:13:13 They filled the ballroom with members, representatives of
09:13:18 just about every bank in the area, mortgage companies,
09:13:21 banks, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and I recognize one of the
09:13:27 law substitutes students that we have on the Channel
09:13:29 District board as a volunteer there, helping people with
09:13:32 issues with their mortgages.
09:13:34 And it was powerful.
09:13:35 A lot of people got help that day.
09:13:37 And then this last Saturday, congresswoman Castor and --
09:13:43 100,000 hats -- had a jobs fair up at the old mall up on
09:13:51 Florida Avenue, and I got there.
09:13:55 It opened at 10:00.
09:13:57 I got there a little before 10:00.
09:13:58 They tulip had a line that wrapped around the building.
09:14:01 The city participated, city of St. Pete was Hillsborough
09:14:07 community college.
09:14:08 They had over 1200 people there in line looking for jobs.
09:14:11 And I think a lot of people were helped.
09:14:14 And it's something I told Ms. Coney we would certainly
09:14:18 participate in again because it was great deal.
09:14:22 What had marginal movement in the rate in our community,
09:14:26 gone from 12% to 10.2 but that's still too high.
09:14:29 So we are continuing to do whatever we can to try to help
09:14:34 A lot of you were at the grand reopening of the Ferlita
09:14:36 Macaroni factory, and the Ybor City CRA had no small part in
09:14:44 As now they had a facade grant but also gave a grant to the
09:14:47 Italian club which helped in the stabilization of that.
09:14:50 So we have a historic building that we saved, and now it's
09:14:53 being put to productive use.
09:14:54 So it was a very nice event.
09:14:59 We had the related groundbreaking, and more than just having
09:15:03 more residential units for our people to live in, also means
09:15:06 we are going to have a new park, and we are going to see
09:15:10 some progress shortly.
09:15:12 And then shortly you will be receiving your East Tampa
09:15:16 And again, it does a nice job of keeping the community
09:15:19 united and talking about things that go on in the community.
09:15:23 Any questions about this month's events?
09:15:33 Thankfully, we have a lot of good things going on.
09:15:36 Now, we had the ULI panel in town, not that long ago, and
09:15:40 there were people from all over the country, and they
09:15:43 remarked about the fact that we seem to be a lot busier in
09:15:47 our community than lots of places that they live.
09:15:49 And I had to agree with them.
09:15:51 Some of them went down just to see what a building crane
09:15:55 looked like, it had been so long.
09:15:57 So it was a positive thing.
09:15:59 Number two is a memo, making a request.
09:16:04 Since December 2008, we had a monthly report, but also had
09:16:10 one of the members of each of the communities come in and
09:16:13 give a report.
09:16:15 It's been a duplication of efforts.
09:16:18 And as you recall, on many occasions we had to continually
09:16:21 reschedule, because of difficulties of people getting away
09:16:24 from work.
09:16:25 And I'm asking the board's forbearance and perhaps
09:16:30 discontinuing this process.
09:16:31 We certainly encourage our CRA advisory board members to
09:16:35 appear in front of the board with questions and concerns
09:16:39 they may have, but this schedule of having the board chairs
09:16:45 became somewhat burdensome to some of the members.
09:16:48 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Do you want to discuss this item or are
09:16:56 we going to wait until it comes up?
09:16:59 >>FRANK REDDICK: Take questions now, Bob?
09:17:02 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Certainly, yes.
09:17:03 >> I do have a concern about that request, Bob, because the
09:17:10 reason that the advisory board exists is so that their
09:17:18 representation of their communities and the folks that live
09:17:20 and do business within those communities have a say in the
09:17:26 activities of the CRA.
09:17:30 And coming to the CRA board and offering opinions about what
09:17:37 is going on or not going on, as the case may be in their
09:17:42 communities, is important to us, and often we don't get to
09:17:46 hear from them other than here at this body all at once so
09:17:52 that we can ask questions of them as a collective exchange
09:17:58 ideas and conversation.
09:18:02 So I understand it might be a scheduling difficulty for some
09:18:09 of them, but certainly there are multi-member boards, and if
09:18:13 the chair cannot make it, then someone else who represents
09:18:17 the community can be here, but only hearing from staff of
09:18:22 the activities going on in the community I think does us a
09:18:28 disservice because we are only hearing the proverbial side
09:18:33 or one perspective.
09:18:35 And I for one would want to continue to hear from them, and
09:18:42 not during a public comment portion of the agenda.
09:18:46 Public comment puts members who have dedicated their time to
09:18:52 their community lumped in with everyone else who wants to
09:18:56 come here and speak to us.
09:18:59 I mean, not that we have a sold out crowd here unlike the
09:19:05 Gasparilla music festival, but I think it's important we
09:19:07 continue to hear from them and hear their opinions, their
09:19:12 gripes, their accolades, whatever the case may be.
09:19:16 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Several of the folks that come in front of
09:19:23 the board, the presidents, generally ask the staff member to
09:19:28 write them a list of things that are going on, which is very
09:19:31 similar to what's in the monthly report.
09:19:33 It's just a concern that there might be duplication.
09:19:35 But if it's the board's pleasure we can --
09:19:39 >> Duplication if they are coming with bullet points by
09:19:47 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Asked to be created by staff, I mean.
09:19:49 >>LISA MONTELIONE, no I understand.
09:19:52 It puts you in the position of whoever is adviser for that
09:19:57 particular CRA is.
09:19:57 >>BOB McDONAUGH: If it's the board's pleasure, we can
09:20:01 certainly continue on.
09:20:02 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
09:20:06 I agree with Councilwoman Montelione.
09:20:09 And hopefully it shouldn't be too much of a hardship if you
09:20:12 think about we have eight CRAs, right?
09:20:15 So it would only be about once a year that somebody, you
09:20:19 know, we are having individual reports from the different
09:20:25 advisory committees, they can send someone.
09:20:27 As she said, it doesn't necessarily have to be, but share
09:20:31 once a year.
09:20:32 I think if that's too much of a hardship to be able to do,
09:20:38 maybe we need other people on the advisory committee that
09:20:42 would be willing to come.
09:20:43 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Well, we have had the presidents because
09:20:46 in the past the scheduling has been the issue that people
09:20:52 wanted to hear from the president so we would wait until the
09:20:55 president was available and shift the schedule around.
09:20:57 >>HARRY COHEN: One thing that I think has been helpful
09:21:03 about having the representatives from the different CRAs,
09:21:08 here is our chance to meet them and talk to them, and then
09:21:12 we see them somewhere, and all of a sudden, now, that
09:21:18 decision has been made, and that's happened to me a few
09:21:21 >>FRANK REDDICK: Do we need a vote on this?
09:21:26 >>BOB McDONAUGH: If that's the board's pleasure, I will
09:21:28 respectfully withdraw the request.
09:21:30 >> Right now the policy is to have someone come.
09:21:39 The other thing is it okay if someone other than the
09:21:41 president comes?
09:21:42 So you need a motion to address that issue.
09:21:44 >>FRANK REDDICK: I don't think it's a problem if the
09:21:49 president can't come, to send somebody, vice chair, whoever
09:21:51 wants to come and speak.
09:21:53 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I'll motion that the language in the
09:21:58 request changed from the president or chair of the CRA
09:22:04 advisory board to "a representative of" and then the board
09:22:12 of that CRA can decide who the representative would be.
09:22:14 >>FRANK REDDICK: Do we have a second to the motion?
09:22:18 >>MARY MULHERN: I wanted to ask a question about this.
09:22:21 I'm not sure.
09:22:25 I would like the advisory boards to really retain their
09:22:30 autonomy, so I think if they make a decision as a board to
09:22:35 do that, they should do that rather than us telling them to
09:22:38 do that.
09:22:42 If an individual CRA advisory committee decides that they
09:22:46 would like to send someone other than the president to our
09:22:53 CRA board meeting, then they can make that decision on their
09:22:56 And I don't know that we really need to change any policy
09:22:59 language to do that, do we?
09:23:04 >>SAL TERRITO: I think right now that's who you have coming
09:23:06 here so you are giving them the autonomy by making a motion
09:23:10 to leave it up to them.
09:23:11 >> Jim Crew, city clerk's office.
09:23:14 I was here when the motion was made in 2008 and the wording
09:23:18 was actually "a representative."
09:23:22 >> We don't really need to change the language.
09:23:24 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That's fine P.I was going by what was
09:23:27 provided to us here in the memorandum saying that two
09:23:29 motions regarding monthly reporting CRA activities was made
09:23:32 in 2008.
09:23:33 The first was a motion to have the chairpersons from various
09:23:37 advisory committees appear before the board.
09:23:39 So that was the basis.
09:23:44 >> That has been the practice, knowing there's that latitude
09:23:50 and the board is fine it with, then we'll continue doing
09:23:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you, Jim.
09:23:54 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Next we have a presentation on Kiley
09:24:01 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
09:24:10 Today we are going to have a presentation from the friends
09:24:17 of Kiley Park, which is a group that started, I think, about
09:24:23 six, seven years ago, when the plans for the new art museum
09:24:28 were out there, and there were a lot of huge support for
09:24:33 preserving this wonderful asset to Tampa, internationally
09:24:40 renowned garden, and in the process of building the new
09:24:49 museum and Kiley Park, the city did a fantastic job of
09:24:54 restoring the vases for the park.
09:25:03 Sadly all the crape myrtle trees were cut down a few years
09:25:08 But the problems the park was creating with the garage
09:25:13 underneath were all repaired and solved in a way that
09:25:17 allowed the park to be restored.
09:25:19 So Councilwoman Saul-Sena -- I think I can still call you
09:25:26 that, right?
09:25:27 I don't know.
09:25:28 Former Councilwoman Saul-Sena will give us a presentation.
09:25:37 And I hope you read, back before I was in city politics I
09:25:42 wrote a story about Kiley Gardens, because it was very, very
09:25:45 dear to me, and I wanted it to be preserved, so I shared
09:25:49 that with you, and I hope you have a chance to read it.
09:25:52 >> Linda Saul sen A.
09:25:56 Thank you.
09:25:57 Also I want to recognize Vivian SILAGA, who was an original
09:26:03 friend of Kiley, and Vivian put together the slide
09:26:06 To do this, do we push the arrow going forward, or do we
09:26:10 push the clicker?
09:26:12 I guess the clicker like this.
09:26:14 What you see before you is an image of Kiley garden as it
09:26:19 was when it was originally created.
09:26:24 Dan Kiley is the most internationally recognized American
09:26:27 landscape architect since the guy who created Central Park.
09:26:32 He is the master of 20th century landscape architecture
09:26:35 in this country, and people actually make pilgrimages to
09:26:40 Tampa to see this garden, it's so outstanding, or they D.so
09:26:44 when it was originally created, we are going to see the
09:26:47 That was the original beauty.
09:26:49 This is the interim period after the trees had been removed.
09:26:55 And this is what it looks like now.
09:27:02 We have one here actually showing Dan Kiley's work.
09:27:10 He's such an outstanding landscape architect.
09:27:18 Recognized all over the world.
09:27:19 The significance of his gardens are universally Herald, we
09:27:25 see the Chicago art institute, Lincoln Center, and I am
09:27:35 going to ask her to speak about the collaboration of Harry
09:27:40 wolf and Dan Kiley.
09:27:42 >> Good morning.
09:27:44 So Dan Kiley is studied by landscape architecture schools
09:27:48 across the country and around the world, and he works very
09:27:51 closely with Harry wolf who designed Rivergate towers as we
09:27:54 know as the round building.
09:27:56 >> Give your name, please.
09:27:58 >> Karen Salaga.
09:28:02 And the design was based on what students of architecture
09:28:07 and landscape architecture know as the perfect ratio, and
09:28:14 the Vinacci sequence.
09:28:17 So this is mathematically the proportions that you find in
09:28:20 This is what many of the ruins that we see today in Rome
09:28:24 were based off of, and we happened to have one of these
09:28:27 remarkable works by Dan Kiley here in Tampa, and the
09:28:32 building and the garden go hand in hand, and you will see
09:28:34 further in the presentation how they relate to one another.
09:28:41 You can see the original design of the garden, well planned
09:28:50 and thought through, as the image all the way to the left is
09:28:53 a section showing the building in relation to the garden,
09:28:56 and then moving over to the right are the plans.
09:28:59 And you can see where the original trees were located and
09:29:02 the fountains and how the building and the garden really
09:29:07 related to each other and to the waterfront as well, because
09:29:16 some of the best views are in Tampa standing over the
09:29:18 Hillsborough River.
09:29:20 And a few more images.
09:29:26 And you can see it here.
09:29:28 And in 2007, the garden as we know fell to disrepair, and it
09:29:35 was pretty devastating to see it and what had happened.
09:29:51 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: This shows the dynamic waterfront in
09:29:54 So many things went down, came up, it was a very dynamic
09:29:58 The garden was recognized internationally.
09:30:01 Here we have landscape architecture magazine mourning the
09:30:05 potential demise of the garden.
09:30:07 And here we have it in a state of disrepair.
09:30:12 And the trees which were originally planted were not the
09:30:15 ones that had been specified by Dan Kiley.
09:30:19 They were too big, they weren't maintained.
09:30:21 It was a mess.
09:30:22 It made us very sad.
09:30:23 It made many people sad.
09:30:25 And here we have a modern ruin almost cemetery like.
09:30:31 And here we see the relationship to the 400 north Ashley
09:30:34 known as Rivergate tower.
09:30:36 Now, the good news is, that was originally purchased by
09:30:39 people who are doing a great job restoring the building.
09:30:42 Here we see the Tampa Museum of Art.
09:30:45 The green is the area that's owned by the City of Tampa.
09:30:48 The people who own the Rivergate tower only own the blue
09:30:53 So the people who own the round building sued the city
09:30:59 because the garden was leaking.
09:31:01 It was really a green roof that was leaking into the parking
09:31:04 So the city spent well over $3 million making good on the
09:31:12 problems with the parking garage.
09:31:13 We had to completely dig up the garden and rebuild and
09:31:17 restructure it.
09:31:19 The presentation we are seeing was created by Ron Sill, a
09:31:23 landscape architect with Reynold and hill.
09:31:28 He presented this to the architectural forum and did a great
09:31:33 job of how we addressed it.
09:31:34 >> Some of the problems we were dealing with were
09:31:38 structural, and the garden now, thanks to the City of
09:31:40 Tampa's first recreation effort, has restored the structure
09:31:45 of the garden, and the base that can actually hold trees.
09:31:52 So you will see a slide coming up about the tree cells and a
09:32:00 little information.
09:32:00 This is some of the technical information about what was
09:32:03 done to structurally preserve the garden and also the
09:32:07 parking structure underneath it.
09:32:11 And you can see, this is some of the -- these are the
09:32:15 original tree cells.
09:32:16 And those original tree cells everybody restored in a way
09:32:20 that they can maintain deeper soil to hold the trees without
09:32:23 it leaking in the future.
09:32:25 So the trees can be replanted and restored to their original
09:32:29 condition without problems coming to pass in the future for
09:32:33 the parking garage beneath it.
09:32:37 It's based on some of the original specifications, and also
09:32:40 new technologies and materials that we now have today that
09:32:44 we didn't in 1988.
09:32:45 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: The good news is we have done the
09:32:58 expensive part.
09:32:59 It's always the under-the-ground stuff that you don't see
09:33:01 that's really expensive.
09:33:02 The city has already invested and done a super job of
09:33:05 getting the grass, the leaks all spoken for.
09:33:09 That cost about $3 million.
09:33:11 And it's done.
09:33:12 And now we can bring this park back.
09:33:15 Yesterday, I spoke with Carla Price, and she said ballpark
09:33:20 between 180,000 and 220,000 to restore the fountain, and Ron
09:33:29 silk thinks for 250,000 we can restore the trees.
09:33:33 And this time we'll put in the right kind of trees, right
09:33:35 kind of soil, waterproof planters for them, and so the
09:33:42 internationally acclaimed park can come back for our
09:33:44 community and be a source of pride.
09:33:48 Here are the images of it today.
09:33:49 Why don't you keep clicking?
09:33:51 And you may say, okay, what can we as Tampa City Council
09:33:55 sitting as the CRA do?
09:33:57 And there are two very specific things that are easily
09:34:00 within your power.
09:34:01 One is that we want to protect this park for the future.
09:34:05 Some people have had ideas to do other things with it, and
09:34:10 frankly, it needs to be protected as a world class iconic
09:34:15 image it is.
09:34:16 You have the power at the end this meeting to ask the city's
09:34:20 preservation commission to protect it.
09:34:22 It's not protected at all.
09:34:24 County be protected under a local ordinance.
09:34:26 And all they need to do, because the land is owned by the
09:34:29 city, is have your direction.
09:34:31 >> This is just a little bit about the formal design.
09:34:37 You can actually see the sequence that works as I click
09:34:41 through the slides as to how the garden was designed and the
09:34:45 geometry behind it.
09:34:47 So it's a very sophisticated design, and it's one that we
09:34:51 should be very, very proud of to have it here in Tampa.
09:34:53 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: The other thing we divided up improving
09:34:58 the park into two phases.
09:34:59 One phase would be the restoration. Tree canopy which I
09:35:02 think we would all agree that shade is good, and shade would
09:35:07 be good in August when the Republicans come so we are going
09:35:09 to leave this last slide on the park.
09:35:13 So the CRA has some funding, and this would be a very
09:35:16 appropriate source of spending it on the trees to get some
09:35:20 put-back there before August.
09:35:21 Then phase 2 do restoration of the fountain.
09:35:25 For the restoration of the fountain, there are several grant
09:35:28 sources we could go to once the park is protected with local
09:35:31 and national designation as a park that's an icon,
09:35:37 historically designated.
09:35:40 The friends of Kiley are willing to work in tandem with the
09:35:43 city as well as the people in the round building to raise
09:35:45 money to improve this world class image for our city.
09:35:49 >> And as we mentioned, the hard part has been done, and
09:35:55 City of Tampa should really be commended for the job that
09:35:58 was done for preserving it as the way that they did so that
09:36:02 it could be restored fully.
09:36:05 Do you have any questions?
09:36:08 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thanks for the presentation.
09:36:10 I really appreciate it because I remember when this building
09:36:13 first went up and was very interested in the way that the
09:36:16 park is.
09:36:18 I won't say I'm a purveyor of urban parks, but I was in New
09:36:22 York last year, and saw the jai alai park, a great example
09:36:27 of a reuse of something that is no longer being used there.
09:36:32 Were hundreds of people in that park, great park.
09:36:34 But the question I have, we know that architecture is not
09:36:37 only art, but it's art with function.
09:36:42 The original design -- and some of the problems that we had
09:36:45 with the leakages, was that because of the way it was
09:36:48 engineered or the way that it was constructed?
09:36:50 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: There were two problems.
09:36:54 The problems have been addressed.
09:36:56 One was with drainage and the other was walking on some of
09:36:59 the small stones that used to be in the bed of earth that
09:37:03 came up, and if you were wearing high heels it was a real
09:37:08 Now they have been cemented in and we have the image and
09:37:11 geometry but it's a much more safe level.
09:37:14 >> The facade -- I misunderstood that part.
09:37:18 You are talking about the stones are cemented in now?
09:37:21 >> Yes.
09:37:22 The stones are -- they won't have the settling that
09:37:29 Also, the soil that is now in there is a lightweight soil,
09:37:34 more technologically advanced soil than we had at the time
09:37:37 for a green roof.
09:37:38 This is really a green roof garden.
09:37:41 And so the technology that we have now for green roofs is
09:37:44 much improved from what we had in 1988.
09:37:47 This is definitely ahead of its time in terms of its
09:37:50 sinking, and now technology has caught up to it, and the
09:37:53 restoration has used that technology.
09:37:59 I believe there was a slide that showed it's guaranteed for
09:38:03 30 years.
09:38:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: In terms of the -- two questions I have
09:38:07 about cost, which is the types of trees that are going to be
09:38:12 put in there, or we want to put in there, and what the
09:38:16 maintenance costs are going to be going forward.
09:38:18 Have you all done a study of how much it will cost as we go
09:38:24 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: The cost of the trees which are cabbage
09:38:27 palms and crape myrtle is really modest.
09:38:30 The real cost, the liners, what the expression is,
09:38:35 suspenders and a belt.
09:38:37 The park -- will also put the trees into planters that are
09:38:43 The long-term maintenance costs, they do require more
09:38:48 And that's why we are talking to the people in the round
09:38:51 building, because in many cases, where city properties have
09:38:56 been planted adjacent to private investments, the private
09:38:59 investments have had their maintenance people take over
09:39:03 because it's to their good to have the higher level of
09:39:06 And one of the things that Kiley didn't do is give you a
09:39:10 book along with it called how to maintain this, and nowadays
09:39:14 evidently landscape architects provide that, because it is
09:39:17 more sophisticated than the Mo and below operation.
09:39:24 >> I'm glad you mentioned that with sort of partnering with
09:39:26 the owners of the adjacent property, because it does
09:39:29 essentially enhance their property, too, and in terms of
09:39:33 other private donors, have you already identified either
09:39:36 people pledged or know any amount, or figure you are just
09:39:41 getting off the ground?
09:39:42 >> Actually, the organization has been around for a while
09:39:44 but we just started talking about how much would you pay for
09:39:49 a tree with a little plaque in front of it.
09:39:52 In the day of conversation we came up with ten people who
09:39:54 are willing to pay $500 each.
09:39:56 And it's not just people.
09:39:58 It's downtown organizations, the Optimists, Rotarians, and
09:40:02 some people don't know, many, many people don't know that it
09:40:06 But for the people who have looked down on it over the
09:40:09 years, they recognize that restoration will be a huge value
09:40:14 to our community, and they would like their family's name
09:40:17 associated with it.
09:40:18 >> And by also doing a national historic designation for the
09:40:23 garden and local designation for the garden as well, that we
09:40:26 can actually apply for matching grants in order to help with
09:40:30 the restoration effort.
09:40:31 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
09:40:40 Councilwoman Mulhern had provided us copies of the article
09:40:44 that she had written for creative loafing back quite some
09:40:48 time ago, 2005?
09:40:53 And I have a relationship with that garden as well, because
09:40:57 I worked for NCNB in property management acquisition and
09:41:02 development when we built that building.
09:41:05 And the building just to the other side is where we sat and
09:41:11 watched the construction.
09:41:13 And we had we had a great perch for overseeing the
09:41:19 construction of the building.
09:41:21 When we talk about restoration of the fountain, are we
09:41:25 talking about the reflecting pools?
09:41:26 Okay, so from my recollection back in the day, those were
09:41:32 the areas that gave us the most trouble.
09:41:36 Being in the property management division, that was constant
09:41:41 heartache as well as a headache for us, because they were
09:41:46 But the reflecting ponds were the source of many, many of
09:41:50 the problems, and it may have had something to do with the
09:41:54 failure of some of the other structural elements, because
09:41:58 the weight of the water in those reflecting ponds caused
09:42:03 some of the concrete structures that were connected to the
09:42:07 to fail.
09:42:11 And from almost the second or third month that the
09:42:15 reflecting ponds were in place, they began to leak, and, you
09:42:19 know, there were more people in there cleaning out the algae
09:42:22 and trying to fix the stones that were underneath, and
09:42:25 Vivian is laughing.
09:42:26 She remembers that we spent a lot of time on that.
09:42:33 The trees, they did grow to be very, very tall.
09:42:37 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: They were the wrong species.
09:42:39 The species that Kiley had designated were different.
09:42:43 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Because if you saw the park you saw how
09:42:51 out of scale those trees had become.
09:42:53 When they were first planted everything was beautiful
09:42:55 because they were the right size and scale, but over time as
09:42:58 they grew larger and larger, it was even to someone who is
09:43:02 not a landscape architect.
09:43:04 And I don't understand that whole thing, the relationship of
09:43:07 the geometry at all.
09:43:08 But I know way like and what I see.
09:43:11 But could tell it was completely out of scale.
09:43:14 >> You are absolutely right.
09:43:15 They were out of scale.
09:43:17 And they were more of a traditional crape myrtle that was
09:43:20 planted, and what was specified was a dwarf crape myrtle
09:43:23 which has also a smaller root ball, and so that was also
09:43:26 part of the problem with the structure and with the water
09:43:28 features, is that the root balls were so large, as the trees
09:43:33 got bigger, those roots began to penetrate the structure,
09:43:36 and so a lot of settling and unevenness and the leaking of
09:43:41 the fountains was also a result of having the wrong -- too
09:43:47 large of a tree in the planting.
09:43:48 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Okay.
09:43:51 And the cost is a concern.
09:43:55 I do speak a lot about grants and using outside funding to
09:44:00 support the things that we do within the city.
09:44:02 And having the ability to leverage the designation to
09:44:11 receive grant funding, to restore the fountains within the
09:44:17 park is a wonderful idea.
09:44:21 The question I have -- although I know that we have a job
09:44:27 opening for a grant writer, we don't currently have one on
09:44:31 staff, and the grants that would be written, would that fall
09:44:36 to the responsibility of someone here at the city?
09:44:40 Or would we be able to prevail upon --
09:44:45 >> Friends of Kiley would be able to write the grants but we
09:44:48 need the city to sign off on it.
09:44:50 That's what was keeping us back previously.
09:44:51 The city didn't move ahead with the designation.
09:44:54 You need the designation before you write for the grant.
09:44:56 We are willing to do the work.
09:44:57 The city has to agree to accept the money.
09:45:00 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Excellent.
09:45:01 Now we have that on record.
09:45:05 That's wonderful.
09:45:07 Finally, and this is outside of the cost, but you can see
09:45:12 the amphitheater there, and I love that amphitheater, and I
09:45:20 would love to have the programming.
09:45:23 We talk about all the programming that's been going on at
09:45:27 the top of the hour by Mr. McDonaugh, if we can have
09:45:32 additional programming there, bring more people into the
09:45:34 park, maybe have more citizens who realize the benefits of
09:45:39 it and the beauty of it and contribute to the friends.
09:45:42 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: One of the cool things is people are
09:45:46 getting married in the museum, and I think if we had trees
09:45:49 people would also get married in the park and amp theater.
09:45:51 And somebody asked about putting a placard in front of the
09:45:54 tree in honor of their marriage.
09:45:56 That's really special.
09:45:57 >>MARY MULHERN: I just wanted to say a few things.
09:46:05 With regard to the crape myrtles, it was not only that they
09:46:10 were not the right species, they were too big, they were
09:46:15 never pruned.
09:46:17 And if now anyone who actually takes care of their crape
09:46:19 myrtles -- we have a neighbor, and every winter, every
09:46:25 spring, I guess, they completely prune them.
09:46:28 And this was never once done in the gardens over 20 years.
09:46:32 I don't know how many years it was.
09:46:33 They weren't maintained.
09:46:34 So Linda brought up the point that now when you have a
09:46:39 garden, you have a maintenance manual for it.
09:46:42 And the great thing is we have still got landscape architect
09:46:49 who worked on this project, and Ron Sill, who worked on
09:46:53 repairing this, just has complete understanding of what
09:46:58 needed to be corrected in there.
09:47:01 I think where we are now, I was just thinking about it.
09:47:04 Since 2005, what happened, I think the reason the historic
09:47:10 designation never got passed in a previous council was
09:47:14 because there was so much change going on around Ashley and
09:47:17 the museums, that we are now on a third mayor, and a
09:47:23 question about what to do with Curtis Hixon and Kiley Park
09:47:26 and the museum and all of that.
09:47:28 So no one was ready to make that commitment to this park.
09:47:32 But many while, Mayor Iorio and the last administration did
09:47:39 put all that money toward this restoration.
09:47:42 So I think it would be a pity for us not to follow through
09:47:45 with the smaller investment.
09:47:47 We need to find ways to do. I think that historic
09:47:52 preservation is really important, and I think we are ready
09:47:56 to go it with.
09:47:57 All the research was done, we are ready to do that
09:48:00 So I think a motion from us might move that forward.
09:48:04 Then I guess I had a couple questions -- one question maybe
09:48:09 for Bob.
09:48:10 I know that there was funding from the RNC for landscaping
09:48:17 Is there anything left?
09:48:18 >> The city is not receiving any money from the RNC for
09:48:23 >> We are not?
09:48:24 Oh, the CRA did?
09:48:27 >>BOB McDONAUGH: The city has been funding improvements in
09:48:28 some places where there were other cities.
09:48:33 If the host committee had moneys left over at the end of the
09:48:36 convention they had offered moneys to the city.
09:48:38 But there's in a money going to the city.
09:48:41 >>LISA MONTELIONE: The host committee didn't offer us any
09:48:44 money for that?
09:48:46 Who is paying for the landscaping we are doing?
09:48:49 >>BOB McDONAUGH: The city is.
09:48:51 >> We are?
09:48:53 Out of the general fund?
09:48:54 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Yes, out of budgeted funds.
09:48:56 The whatchamacallit, the stories of the city receiving money
09:49:02 was after the fact if there were moneys left over from the
09:49:05 convention, sometimes the host committees, whether that be
09:49:08 Republican or Democratic, would give the city some money to
09:49:12 pay back.
09:49:13 But it's all dependent upon whether or not there was a
09:49:16 balance left.
09:49:19 >>MARY MULHERN: And it's after the convention.
09:49:21 Okay, thanks.
09:49:22 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: It's my understanding the city hasn't
09:49:25 allocated all the money they set aside to spend on
09:49:29 So I think it would be appropriate to ask parks if there are
09:49:31 some funds they could put towards this.
09:49:33 >>FRANK REDDICK: Any more questions?
09:49:43 >>MARY MULHERN: No.
09:49:43 I'm good.
09:49:44 Thank you so much.
09:49:44 >>FRANK REDDICK: Just two things.
09:49:47 One, have you gone to the city administration to speak with
09:49:52 them pertaining to funding, whether it comes from the parks
09:49:56 or not?
09:49:57 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Yes.
09:49:58 We spoke with the mayor two weeks ago, and he was very
09:50:01 enthusiastic, and he was the one that asked for us to find
09:50:03 out what the costs for restoring the fountains would be.
09:50:07 I think the thing that appealed to the mayor was the
09:50:09 international level of recognition that this park would
09:50:14 glean for the city. In terms of urban design, it's the most
09:50:17 by far sophisticated thing we have to offer.
09:50:19 And their level of investment, the bulk of it, the 3 million
09:50:25 to redo the garage has already been made.
09:50:27 This is like the icing on the cake, and this is what would
09:50:30 get people there, because it's no fun when it's too hot.
09:50:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: Secondly, have you spoken with
09:50:36 preservation people about designating this for the historic?
09:50:40 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Yes.
09:50:41 Yesterday, I spoke with Dennis Fernandez.
09:50:43 He said that the best way to move this up on the list was
09:50:46 have City Council ask the Historic Preservation Commission
09:50:50 to designate it.
09:50:52 I mean, they can do it on their own, but if you all ask it
09:50:56 they will put it at the top of the list.
09:50:57 >>FRANK REDDICK: The last question is from my calculation
09:51:01 it seems like almost half a million dollars to do what you
09:51:04 need to do.
09:51:08 Are any of these funds going to be paid to start some type
09:51:12 of private financing for this type of project?
09:51:16 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Chairman Reddick, great idea.
09:51:20 That's what friends of Kiley has already organized as a
09:51:24 501(c)3 but what we need in order to do that is the
09:51:27 designation, so that we know that the money that's collected
09:51:36 will be directed to redoing the trees.
09:51:39 And we don't have to do the whole half million.
09:51:42 Phase one would be the trees.
09:51:43 Phase two the fountains. If we could get phase one done on
09:51:46 the sooner side then we have the opportunity to apply for
09:51:48 grants to do the fountain restoration.
09:51:50 >>FRANK REDDICK: Council, anything further?
09:51:54 >>MARY MULHERN: Yes, I wanted to ask either Bob or
09:51:59 yourself, as far as the historic preservation request, can
09:52:03 we do that as a CRA board or do that as a council?
09:52:10 >>BOB McDONAUGH: I would like also the opportunity to talk
09:52:12 to the mayor to see if the administration is supportive of
09:52:14 that because it's the first I have heard of that, that he
09:52:16 was supportive of that issue.
09:52:18 Not that he was not or he positively was.
09:52:21 It's just I'm unaware of the administration's position on
09:52:25 I would like to check that out and get back with City
09:52:27 Council on that.
09:52:28 >>FRANK REDDICK: Is it possible, Bob -- are you planning on
09:52:33 being at this evening's meeting?
09:52:35 >> If you like me, to I will be there.
09:52:37 >> If you will meet with the mayor.
09:52:39 >> He's in Washington, D.C. right now.
09:52:42 I'm not sure if he will be back, but I'll check.
09:52:44 >> Okay.
09:52:45 Get him on his cell phone.
09:52:48 [ Laughter ]
09:52:57 >>MARY MULHERN: I think we as council can vote for that. I
09:53:00 hope the mayor will support that. I don't know. But we can
09:53:02 do it tonight if we have a chance.
09:53:04 So what I would like to do as a CRA board, I make a motion
09:53:08 to have a report from the downtown CRA about whether there
09:53:17 is a possibility, and maybe the downtown partnership could
09:53:23 let us know if they can help with finding funding for
09:53:27 purchasing trees.
09:53:28 So if there's any money in the CRA budget --
09:53:34 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: The partnership has so many --
09:53:38 >>MARY MULHERN: We'll leave them out of it but I would like
09:53:40 to hear from the downtown CRA if there's any money in the
09:53:42 budget this year for purchasing some of the trees, if
09:53:47 there's money in there for that.
09:53:48 >>LISA MONTELIONE: The trees and the fountains, the two
09:53:59 phases, I believe 250,000 was the -- to replace all the
09:54:06 There's also the possibilities if we have one and a quarter,
09:54:08 we put back half the trees, but it would be nice to have all
09:54:11 the trees.
09:54:11 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So the target number is 250,000 for the
09:54:14 trees, and this would be needed sometime probably June.
09:54:19 And I don't know what the schedule is for planting trees.
09:54:23 There are certain trees at certain times of year, things are
09:54:27 done with certain types of trees. Anyway, the point is that
09:54:37 the counting of how much we need to come up with, our CRAs
09:54:41 have limited funds, but with the friend's contribution, with
09:54:44 possibly a contribution from the folks at Rivergate towers,
09:54:48 and --
09:54:50 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: They won't give us money.
09:54:51 I spoke to them.
09:54:52 But they will consider maintenance.
09:54:54 They haven't committed.
09:54:57 It's a big chunk.
09:54:58 But just.
09:54:59 >>LISA MONTELIONE: But just the purchase of the trees,
09:55:01 trying to work down from the 250,000.
09:55:03 We think don't need a designation to go ahead and start that
09:55:09 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: No.
09:55:09 In fact that action would help the designation because it
09:55:12 would indicate that the city is committed to the restoration
09:55:15 of the park.
09:55:16 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I'm sorry, we have to get sign put from
09:55:21 parks and recreation.
09:55:25 They are very enthused about getting the 250,000 raised or
09:55:28 figuring out exactly how much it costs.
09:55:29 >>MARY MULHERN: My motion at this point, I just want to
09:55:34 hear from the downtown CRA about, now, what they, you know,
09:55:38 even for them to say -- but it is their money.
09:55:45 >> The downtown CRA has less than $20,000 in capital
09:55:48 We are a million dollars short of paying the convention
09:55:52 center bond this year.
09:55:53 So we have reminders from some other years but it's less
09:55:56 than $20,000 for capital improvement dollars.
09:55:58 >> If we could hear from parks.
09:56:04 >>MARY MULHERN: I would like to have the CRA advisory board
09:56:09 take it up at their meeting, and then come back to us.
09:56:12 I mean, any kind of seed money, whatever is out there, any
09:56:15 kind of commitment, any kind of help we can get I think is
09:56:18 worth it.
09:56:19 And then that's a motion for the downtown CRA, to look at if
09:56:26 there is any funding that they can contribute.
09:56:29 And I can add also that they come back at our next CRA
09:56:34 meeting along with the Parks Department to give us their
09:56:37 input about costs and budget.
09:56:42 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
09:56:47 All in favor say aye.
09:56:49 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you.
09:56:54 And tonight -- great, great.
09:56:56 And I just want to say, Adam, Karen's husband, had a
09:57:00 creative idea if we only got a bit of money that we would
09:57:03 plant in the original sequence to really visually identify
09:57:07 how dramatic that is, and use that again as a selling tool
09:57:11 for grants and additional fund-raising.
09:57:13 Thank you.
09:57:13 >>HARRY COHEN: I didn't say anything during the discussion
09:57:18 but I wanted to tell you, I think that this would be such a
09:57:22 phenomenal addition to the riverfront.
09:57:24 It is such a wonderful project.
09:57:25 And it's just going to add so much beauty to the work that's
09:57:31 already been done.
09:57:32 So thank you very much for a wonderful presentation.
09:57:34 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Thank you very much.
09:57:37 We are going to be speaking to the editorial board of the
09:57:39 papers as well.
09:57:40 Thank you.
09:57:40 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right, Bob.
09:57:42 >>BOB McDONAUGH: I was asked to give an update on the arts
09:57:52 And the consultant that the city hired or the CRA had hired
09:57:56 actually made 16 suggestions.
09:57:58 It's a very long, comprehensive plan, and during that period
09:58:03 she interviewed almost 100 stakeholders in the city.
09:58:06 And shortly afterwards, she gave a final report with 15
09:58:15 Policy and practice was the first one.
09:58:16 So even in difficult economic times the City of Tampa has
09:58:20 retained the public art component in building codes.
09:58:23 In other words, the county and other folks put aside their
09:58:27 code about providing money for public art, or having people
09:58:31 to construct to put money in.
09:58:34 The city did not.
09:58:34 We continue to require that, construction projects.
09:58:37 So the port garage is a good example, the public art
09:58:43 The art that the related group will be putting in the park
09:58:46 and the related groups project in the Channel District.
09:58:49 The Zack Street Avenue of the arts.
09:58:52 Again even though we have some difficult economic times, the
09:58:54 city is still pursuing the ideas from that plan.
09:59:00 We actually brought a group of stakeholders together.
09:59:03 We call it the Intown arts plan because just calling it the
09:59:07 Channel District arts plan is really too constrictive and
09:59:11 did not get enough stakeholders involved.
09:59:13 So I have Christine Burdick here who has been actively
09:59:16 involved with me in this process, and I will give her an
09:59:19 opportunity to speak after I just run through the
09:59:22 Let's do it together.
09:59:24 The arts group is comprised of public and private entities,
09:59:27 and one of their suggestions was to get the private
09:59:30 companies involved, and we have.
09:59:32 I think a very good example is TECO peoples gas providing
09:59:35 funding to light the bridges.
09:59:37 As Ms. Saul-Sena was talking about, enroute, which is the
09:59:41 name of the company that owns the Rivergate tower, we talked
09:59:44 to them.
09:59:44 He's very enthusiastic about the local arts theme, and I
09:59:47 think probably the best example of that as you can see if
09:59:52 photographic museum of traffic arts is moving in there with
09:59:56 some great graphics.
09:59:57 And coming back into the museum's district, it's a great
10:00:02 So that's an indication of public-private partnerships.
10:00:06 Ensuring quality.
10:00:07 So we continue to use the jury selection for public art and
10:00:11 Lights on Tampa.
10:00:12 Dedicated staff.
10:00:14 We still have Robin Nigh work withing us, Kimberly, Michael
10:00:20 Kilgore from the Straz center, Christine Campbell.
10:00:25 Recognize and celebrate Tampa's cultural assets.
10:00:29 Now, this last few weeks, it's been a pretty good example.
10:00:32 We had Fiesta Italian.
10:00:35 We had the Gasparilla music festival.
10:00:37 Our community is a paella of lots of different national
10:00:42 eights, so combined to continue that heritage.
10:00:48 Our market downtown channel Ybor as a major urban center,
10:00:52 and again that's why we call it the Intown arts group, again
10:00:56 to celebrate all of these folks together.
10:00:59 Establish around the clock community to attract new
10:01:04 employers and residential housing, tone sure this.
10:01:07 I don't not if you saw it, but Richard Flora recently wrote
10:01:12 an article that Tampa is one of the hotbeds of attracting
10:01:15 more jobs in the creative class of 17.2% increase in the
10:01:19 number of jobs.
10:01:20 So what we are doing is apparently working.
10:01:24 Create sustainable creative industries.
10:01:28 So supports for the arts organization.
10:01:30 An example of that was the money that this CRA board agreed
10:01:34 to contribute to Stageworks.
10:01:37 Again, a great asset to the community.
10:01:40 Encourage linkages and collaboration.
10:01:44 And that's where we have the downtown partnership, we have
10:01:47 the YCDC, Art Kibo, Michael Kilgore, the Straz center.
10:01:54 We have a cumulative art calendar which is not just Tampa
10:01:58 but also has Pinellas County.
10:01:59 We are inviting everybody to participate in this.
10:02:03 Establish wider dialogue with other cities.
10:02:05 And again it started here, but again as I mentioned we do
10:02:08 reach out to Pinellas County and other communities and
10:02:11 invite them to our arts calendar.
10:02:17 Counter perception of isolation.
10:02:19 When that was written, the Channel District was totally
10:02:21 different than the way it is right now.
10:02:23 And we have done streets and sidewalks.
10:02:27 We have a community park.
10:02:29 You go down there in the evenings, there's lots of
10:02:31 pedestrians, no feeling of isolation there.
10:02:34 Activate streets and storefronts.
10:02:36 We have some examples of that.
10:02:37 Ybor is working right now with HCC on an arts program for
10:02:41 their storefronts.
10:02:42 We have someone from Seattle we are talking to, Kristina and
10:02:47 I from the downtown partnership about activating
10:02:49 We have trucks in the Channel District on the third Thursday
10:02:54 of the month.
10:02:56 Starting yappy hour in the Channel District park again to
10:03:00 activate the streets and storefronts.
10:03:03 Then a large future traffic congestion.
10:03:04 Again this was specific to the Channel District in our
10:03:08 neighborhood, and it said one of the things that when heart
10:03:11 was pulling in their horns, and cutting bus lines, one of
10:03:15 the things they wanted to drop was the wheel trolley which
10:03:19 operates in downtown.
10:03:20 The City of Tampa funds that to keep people out of cars and
10:03:25 offer them an alternative.
10:03:26 As you all know, the CRAs pay a big part of funding the
10:03:30 streetcar, again giving people another alternative to
10:03:35 transportation, and hopefully with some help, we can bring
10:03:37 back the electric cars, which are really gaining some strong
10:03:41 traction in our urban area.
10:03:43 Eyesores into icons, I think lighting bridges are probably
10:03:46 the best example of that, the redo of Cotanchobee, the new
10:03:52 Curtis Hixon parks and the rebuilding we are going to do
10:03:55 shortly of Waterworks Park.
10:03:58 Open for virtual business.
10:03:59 Again that's where I talk about the creative class.
10:04:02 Our cooperation with the Tampa Bay technology forum, again
10:04:07 making sure that we offer jobs to people that want to be
10:04:12 Keeping it real.
10:04:13 What makes us unique?
10:04:15 One of the things you might have seen this week was the
10:04:19 We are going to put along the riverwalk of keeping our
10:04:22 culture alive.
10:04:24 Again, the community being a paella.
10:04:28 So we have reached out to the community and have embraced
10:04:33 this plan.
10:04:33 And I would like to invite Christine up for a couple of
10:04:37 minutes to maybe talk about her view on this subject.
10:04:39 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Could I ask a question, Mr. McDonaugh?
10:04:46 Channelside, what's going on with the litigation?
10:04:48 How far are they with that, what's happening?
10:04:51 >>BOB McDONAUGH: The Port Authority has started to take
10:04:55 depositions, and amazingly at the same time they started to
10:04:58 take depositions, the bank found some money to start doing
10:05:01 some repairs.
10:05:01 But they are scheduled to go to trial next month.
10:05:06 And positively, there is a seafood restaurant that is
10:05:10 looking to go into the old Gallagher space, and there's
10:05:13 actually a couple of retails that the neighborhood could use
10:05:16 that are looking at space as well.
10:05:17 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
10:05:19 And I see the City of Tampa more as a Cuban sandwich than a
10:05:26 paella, but we appreciate your paella references.
10:05:32 >>> Good morning.
10:05:33 I'm Christine Burdick with the Tampa downtown partnership.
10:05:39 Bob did a great job of sum up the current existing
10:05:42 conditions and all the things that have happened.
10:05:45 This study was one that the whole community got the chance
10:05:51 to participate in, and when the study was released, we all
10:05:56 realized that the things that the consultants recognized as
10:06:04 distinctive and as opportunities in the Channel District
10:06:09 really matched and couldn't be easily separated from all of
10:06:11 the areas around the Channel District.
10:06:15 There were things that were common and actually connective
10:06:20 in the Channel District for Ybor and even Tampa Heights and
10:06:22 the downtown core, Hyde Park even.
10:06:26 So it was an action of the CRA agency in October, I believe
10:06:33 it was, of '08 to change the name of this Channel District
10:06:37 arts plan to the Intown arts program.
10:06:40 But the intent was still always to strengthen and to make
10:06:45 sure that the Channel District had a chance to realize and
10:06:48 build its cultural heritage.
10:06:50 And with all the things that have happened in the Channel
10:06:52 District and surrounding it, that has happened.
10:06:57 We established a committee that met bimonthly with YCDC
10:07:02 representatives and private sector cultural individuals both
10:07:08 from downtown, the Channel District, and from the arts
10:07:12 council, and from YCDC, and we were able to highlight things
10:07:18 that were culturally compatible but still maintained the
10:07:22 uniqueness and the autonomy of each of those districts.
10:07:25 So we offered ideas for tours on solid days that you could
10:07:30 do activities, cultural activities in Ybor, downtown, back
10:07:34 to Ybor for the evening, and never leave -- I mean never use
10:07:38 your car.
10:07:38 You can do it on the streetcar.
10:07:40 You can do it with connectors.
10:07:41 And so we in our Monday morning memo which we had 6500
10:07:47 people every week always have a section of that that's
10:07:49 called Intown collaboration, and that's where we, from the
10:07:54 Monday morning, can highlight those kind of activities that
10:07:57 are happening around downtown, and with the collaboration of
10:08:01 the organizations that we work with.
10:08:03 So I think we can be really pleased with the progression of
10:08:10 growth in the Channel District, both culturally as well as
10:08:14 in the areas surrounding it and that's evidenced by the
10:08:17 retail that's being now just discovered, and you build a
10:08:22 And in the Channel District, the retail, and the other
10:08:25 community activities are really rolling now.
10:08:29 So I think this study has been a very good handbook and
10:08:35 guide book and I think it will continue to have value, and
10:08:39 things that we can do to add to it in order to kind of
10:08:44 reinforce the cultural heritage there.
10:08:48 Thank you.
10:08:48 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Any questions?
10:08:54 >>MARY MULHERN: Is there anyone from the Channel District
10:08:56 advisory -- could you hear me?
10:08:59 >> No.
10:09:02 It was just an update on what's going on.
10:09:06 Again we have the entire community involved in this.
10:09:09 Not just the neighborhood.
10:09:10 And I should have mentioned the fact that probably within
10:09:12 the next month we'll see the -- I spoke to her and she's
10:09:22 getting some plans.
10:09:23 I think that was easier to take apart than put back
10:09:27 We also have the sea grass sculpture.
10:09:31 So, yes, we are following the steps.
10:09:36 Item number 5, we had had discussions concerning the
10:09:38 acceptable language for the makeup of the various CACs,
10:09:43 and so working with council, we have come back with some
10:09:47 suggested language, which hopefully the board finds
10:10:16 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I was just going to suggest, originally I
10:10:20 had talked to staff about this.
10:10:23 I find that the language is satisfactory to alleviate some
10:10:27 of my fears in making sure that we had people who had
10:10:30 legitimate business or residential interests in CRA were
10:10:35 taken care of.
10:10:36 And do we have to make a motion, Mr. Territo?
10:10:41 I would like to move we accept this language as part of our
10:10:45 community advisory committee composition, and as we look at
10:10:50 at-large members, and members within a CRA, that it's
10:10:56 included in the application process.
10:10:57 >>HARRY COHEN: Second.
10:11:00 And may I just say that I think the best thing about this
10:11:03 language is it provides clarity.
10:11:04 This way people will know exactly what the expectation is,
10:11:09 and there will be no misunderstandings about it which is the
10:11:13 problem last time.
10:11:14 >>FRANK REDDICK: Further discussion in the motion?
10:11:18 All in favor?
10:11:21 All right.
10:11:21 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Item number 6.
10:11:25 As they say on television, this is the fun part of the show.
10:11:28 We have a grant application.
10:11:31 >>FRANK REDDICK: Excuse me, do we do public comments?
10:11:38 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Oh, I'm sorry.
10:11:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: Anyone wishing to speak to any item on the
10:11:45 agenda can come forward now.
10:11:47 You have three minutes.
10:11:47 Please state your name for the record.
10:11:49 >> My name is Vivian Salaga, I am here this morning
10:11:57 representing American Institute of Architects Local Heritage
10:12:00 Committee, not only to say thank you very much for the
10:12:05 direction you are going to go with the Kiley Park
10:12:09 designation, but also to thank you profusely for the work
10:12:13 that this CRA has done in the restoration of the Ferlita
10:12:21 Macaroni factory.
10:12:22 I think that project alone demonstrates how successful
10:12:25 public-private partnerships can be in the heritage
10:12:29 community, and how important heritage is in economic
10:12:33 redevelopment for the City of Tampa.
10:12:36 Again, thank you very, very much.
10:12:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
10:12:43 >> Mr. Chairman and other members of the Community
10:12:52 Redevelopment Agency, I'm Al Davis of the East Tampa area.
10:13:01 And I'm here, Mr. Chairman, at this moment to seek a little
10:13:08 clarification as a leader.
10:13:14 There are about three items that I wish.
10:13:22 Number one, are you an HC or an acronym called CRAB?
10:13:44 Throughout the document I see this acronym called CRAB.
10:13:48 But when I read it, the creation of this body, it refers to
10:13:59 the Community Redevelopment Agency.
10:14:03 So if you want to be a CRAB, that's all right.
10:14:08 I will be guided by that.
10:14:10 But I think it's more properly to be that you refer to
10:14:16 yourself as an agency.
10:14:25 In your acceptance of the suggested language of that last
10:14:31 item, it would be my recommendation that you review the
10:14:39 entire agency policy of CAC, and simplify the language, and
10:14:54 not refer to this agency as a crab.
10:15:02 The other -- Mr. Chairman, there's two resolutions that is
10:15:07 coming before you for your approval.
10:15:11 And I would like to understand the implementation of those
10:15:19 Does it involve any funding?
10:15:22 And, if so, what sorts of funding is budgeted, what year
10:15:32 budget, and what items would apply?
10:15:37 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
10:15:42 I look forward to a response.
10:15:43 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mr. Davis, in reference to your comments
10:15:47 pertaining to an agency or board, I think legal responded to
10:15:52 your inquiry that you submitted to staff requesting them to
10:15:57 respond, and I believe that legally responding to you gave
10:16:01 you a definition of the agency or the board, so I think
10:16:07 that's been resolved.
10:16:08 And I don't know if you still have an issue with that but
10:16:11 from my understanding that's been clarified and resolved.
10:16:13 >> I have not received that clarification, Mr. Chairman.
10:16:17 >>FRANK REDDICK: Do you want to speak to that, Sal?
10:16:24 >>SAL TERRITO: You are a board of the agency.
10:16:26 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
10:16:33 So that should clarify that position.
10:16:35 >> So you all are a board of the agency and not an agency
10:16:46 In other words, you are not a crab?
10:16:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: No, we are a lobster, but I am going to
10:16:51 eat some in a minute since you brought it up.
10:16:53 Thank you, Mr. Davis.
10:16:56 And in reference to your resolution, the two items of the
10:16:59 resolution, Bob will come up in a minute and we'll move
10:17:05 But some wonderful crab, I'll tell that you.
10:17:10 So thank you.
10:17:11 We appreciate it, sir.
10:17:12 >>BOB McDONAUGH: The resolution concerning a facade grant,
10:17:24 I believe that Mr. Davis looks at this online, and section 3
10:17:29 that the funds for payment of services provided shall be
10:17:32 paid by account.
10:17:33 There's an account number East Tampa park CRA 2009 funds not
10:17:38 to exceed $50,000.
10:17:40 So it is spelled out in the item.
10:17:44 What I like to do, with your permission to ask the
10:17:48 applicants to come up for a second and talk a little about
10:17:50 this project, if that would be okay.
10:17:52 >> My name is Jason Dickens, I'm a partner with design
10:18:05 We are an architectural firm, have been in business since
10:18:08 1998, providing architectural services throughout the State
10:18:11 of Florida.
10:18:13 In that time we have been operating in the office in
10:18:16 Just recently purchased a building at 1708 east Columbus
10:18:20 drive and looking forward to moving in there.
10:18:25 We will be moving all of our staff.
10:18:26 We have currently 14 employees, all of which are excited.
10:18:34 Some of them USF graduates.
10:18:35 They are going to be reducing their drive to work
10:18:40 We found this project is a great opportunity.
10:18:43 We are moving into a community that's growing.
10:18:46 We are very excited to be a part of that.
10:18:49 And in May looking forward to moving in.
10:18:53 We are looking to invest roughly $300,000 of our own cash
10:18:58 into the building, and looking for a facade grant to help us
10:19:06 on the outside of the building.
10:19:08 Thank you for the opportunity and really excited to move in.
10:19:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Yes, Mr. Dickens, how many square foot is
10:19:15 that building?
10:19:16 >> It's roughly 5,000 square feet.
10:19:18 >>MIKE SUAREZ: What was the reasoning that you all decided
10:19:23 to move from Clearwater to Tampa in order to continue your
10:19:27 >> Well, again, we think it's a great opportunity.
10:19:30 One, employee retention.
10:19:32 Half of our staff already living in Tampa.
10:19:34 It's easier to get new employees, retain employs.
10:19:38 The other is we really see East Tampa, and Tampa in general,
10:19:41 as a growing community, and in the business that we are in
10:19:46 we feel this is a great opportunity for us to grow.
10:19:48 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Are you a resident of Clearwater?
10:19:53 > No, I live in Tampa.
10:19:54 >> Terrific.
10:19:55 In the city limits?
10:19:56 You can also move in here.
10:19:59 [ Laughter ]
10:20:00 We appreciate your faith in our city and getting involved in
10:20:04 this program.
10:20:05 We think this is exactly the kind of development that we
10:20:08 want people that want to put a stake in the ground and say
10:20:12 this is way want to do and this is write want to keep my
10:20:15 business, primarily to make sure that our employees are
10:20:17 happy, but also to help grow our own business, and we
10:20:20 appreciate you doing that.
10:20:23 Thank you.
10:20:23 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you, sir.
10:20:31 Need a motion.
10:20:33 >> Move the resolution.
10:20:34 >> Second.
10:20:35 >>FRANK REDDICK: Moved by Mr. Miranda and seconded by Mr.
10:20:39 All those in favor of the motion say aye.
10:20:43 Thank you.
10:20:43 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Item number 7 is asking for a
10:20:49 subordination agreement to be executed for an existing
10:20:52 facade grant program, doing a refinance where the CRA is
10:20:56 currently in second position.
10:20:58 They will refinance, will remain in second position.
10:21:01 So our position does not change the financial institution
10:21:04 that they are working with will change.
10:21:07 And in the future, I believe I'm working with Mr. Territo,
10:21:10 that items like this will not have to come back to the board
10:21:13 as long as our position does not change.
10:21:17 Just as a reminder to the board, there's a five year
10:21:20 obligation because of this facade grant, and I think it's a
10:21:23 very powerful one to make sure that someone maintains that
10:21:26 We have invested in it.
10:21:28 Again it's to improve the community.
10:21:30 And they have to keep up with that.
10:21:32 And so there's a warranty for us.
10:21:39 >> Move the resolution.
10:21:40 >> Second.
10:21:40 >>FRANK REDDICK: Moved by Mr. Cohen, seconded by Mr.
10:21:46 Suarez, with Mr. Miranda coming in.
10:21:49 All in favor? Opposed?
10:21:50 Thank you.
10:21:51 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Item number 8 is one of our changes again
10:21:58 as we tell council every month that because of declining
10:22:00 revenues we will be shifting money around to keep the
10:22:03 programs up, and this is a program change in Ybor City.
10:22:09 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Move resolution number 8.
10:22:13 >>HARRY COHEN: Second.
10:22:14 >>FRANK REDDICK: Is this information?
10:22:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: It's a request for resolution.
10:22:30 So we need to approve this change?
10:22:33 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Yes, please.
10:22:33 >> Move to approve it.
10:22:35 >> Second.
10:22:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: Moved by Mr. Suarez, seconded by Mr.
10:22:41 All those in favor? Opposed?
10:22:45 >>BOB McDONAUGH: That will conclude my presentation.
10:22:47 Questions or comments?
10:22:48 >>FRANK REDDICK: What is the annual report?
10:22:52 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Excuse me, I believe you received one on
10:22:54 Wednesday of this week that was distributed in your boxes.
10:22:56 And we were not completely happy with the quality of the
10:23:01 The graphics were not as sharp as they could be.
10:23:03 And I just want to let you know we are going to have
10:23:06 additional copies printed that graphics will be improved.
10:23:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Chairman, that's the one with the
10:23:16 picture of downtown Tampa, Bob Buckhorn, the mayor,
10:23:20 honorable Frank Reddick, the chairman.
10:23:22 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Yes, sir, the problem was when I got it
10:23:26 back from the printer, I thought I need to have had my
10:23:29 prescription checked.
10:23:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Maybe. Do you.
10:23:31 >>BOB McDONAUGH: I probably do.
10:23:33 But we will get some more copies with graphics a little bit
10:23:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: If I may, Mr. Chairman, it's really
10:23:41 energizing to see the block of Columbus drive, growing up in
10:23:49 that vicinity, I remember the old factory on 16th, L&M
10:23:57 grocery store, and the cafe, and that neighborhood is coming
10:24:05 back, and thank you all for working so diligently to do
10:24:08 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Just to remained the board that in another
10:24:12 60 days I'll come back with more photographs of more of
10:24:17 these facade grants as they come into fruition.
10:24:19 I'm very happy with the program the way it's worked, and
10:24:22 will see some great results.
10:24:23 >>FRANK REDDICK: Any additional comments?
10:24:30 All right. Any new business, Mr. Suarez?
10:24:32 >>MIKE SUAREZ: No.
10:24:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: No, sir.
10:24:39 >>MARY MULHERN: No.
10:24:42 >>HARRY COHEN: I have a few items.
10:24:44 They are City Council business.
10:24:46 Can I set City Council items now or not?
10:24:53 >>SAL TERRITO: If it's procedural matters, we have done that
10:24:55 >> I'll wait until tonight.
10:24:59 >>FRANK REDDICK: New business, Mrs. Montelione?
10:25:03 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Nothing.
10:25:07 >>FRANK REDDICK: Anything else to come before the crab
10:25:09 board at this time?
10:25:10 >> Move to receive and file.
10:25:11 >> Second.
10:25:11 >>FRANK REDDICK: We stand adjourned. Thank you.
10:25:17 (Meeting adjourned.)
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