CITY OF TAMPA
Thursday, May 10, 2012
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09:07:13 >>FRANK REDDICK: We are going to call the Community
09:07:16 Redevelopment Agency meeting to order.
09:07:18 And I turn it over to Councilwoman Montelione.
09:07:21 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I would like to welcome Reverend Dawn
09:07:25 from Forest Hills United Methodist church to council this
09:07:29 And Pastor Dawn did not start out in the ministry.
09:07:35 For 20 years she was a registered nurse.
09:07:37 But in 1998 she decided to embark upon a second career.
09:07:42 In 2001 she graduated with her masters in divinity at Emory
09:07:49 Since then she has been in the full time ministry.
09:07:52 In July 2006 she became the senior pastor of Forest Hills
09:07:57 United Methodist Church.
09:08:00 Pastor Dawn, welcome to City Council.
09:08:02 And thank you for spending your morning with us.
09:08:04 And if everyone would please rise for the invocation and
09:08:07 remain standing for the pledge of allegiance.
09:08:09 >> Thank you for inviting me here today.
09:08:17 It's a privilege.
09:08:19 Years ago, there was a tiger that escaped from the Bronx
09:08:22 zoo, and the authorities were frantic as they could not find
09:08:25 the great cat anywhere.
09:08:27 They were prepared to blanket the city with a massive
09:08:31 However, they found the tiger not more than two blocks from
09:08:34 the zoo.
09:08:35 He was posing in front of a wire fence around a vacant lot.
09:08:42 All of its life the tiger paced back and forth behind the
09:08:45 bars of its cage.
09:08:47 And here even though it was outside when the animal was
09:08:51 confronted with a fence, all he knew to do was pace.
09:08:55 It didn't know that it was free to run.
09:09:00 When the Israelites were released from Egypt they carried
09:09:04 the burden of fear, hardships so vivid that it became hard
09:09:08 for them to realize that they too were free.
09:09:10 They were outside of bondage.
09:09:13 Most times, we don't know if we are inside the fence,
09:09:16 outside the fence or on the fence.
09:09:20 Most times we don't realize our own potential because we are
09:09:23 so used to pacing back and forth in order to survive.
09:09:27 We don't realize we have the chance to take a great idea and
09:09:31 run with it.
09:09:33 There are people in our city with dreams, but never leave
09:09:37 their ten-block radius because of some imagined fence.
09:09:40 There are people in our city that hope that it will go away
09:09:45 because their health care is a fence ten stories high.
09:09:48 There are people who don't have the support, resources or
09:09:52 means to throw off what binds them.
09:09:55 There are people that have entered the wilderness instead of
09:09:58 finding themselves free they find themselves lost.
09:10:03 God, give us the vision to see through the walls of our own
09:10:06 invention, to see not cages but gate what he's, to see not
09:10:11 dead-ends but doorways of hope.
09:10:16 Help us interpret what are we see not as insurmountable
09:10:19 mountains but as opportunities, someone love high but well
09:10:25 within reach.
09:10:26 Strengthen us to hurdle fences and forge forward with the
09:10:29 courage to create and re-create, to gather up the loss, the
09:10:34 aged and the caged, to see them as you do, and free them to
09:10:40 Show us that we are free and changed, that we can step over
09:10:46 lines that were drawn long ago to a new direction and a new
09:10:50 Enlighten us when we falter.
09:10:52 Uphold us when we reason.
09:10:57 God he will us.
09:10:58 Enlighten us in the ways that we walk.
09:11:03 In this invocation I had only asked you to Bowe your head,
09:11:06 but to look beyond the fence at what you can accomplish by
09:11:10 working together.
09:11:13 I not only ask you to close your eyes but to keep them open
09:11:16 wide to the problems that we face as a city.
09:11:20 With your talents and insights you can lead this community
09:11:23 to a better future.
09:11:25 As you work together on behalf of all who live in this city,
09:11:28 may you draw strength and encouragement from one another,
09:11:33 through compassion and reason in doing your work.
09:11:38 (Pledge of Allegiance)
09:12:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
09:12:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Here.
09:12:08 >>HARRY COHEN: Here.
09:12:09 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Here.
09:12:14 >>MARY MULHERN: Here.
09:12:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: Here.
09:12:18 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Administrator for economic opportunity.
09:12:18 I'm asking if we can move item 4 to the end of the agenda.
09:12:23 I believe there will be a lot of discussion on this item and
09:12:25 if possible we would be able to move some of the other
09:12:27 business items forward rather quickly.
09:12:30 >>FRANK REDDICK: That's fine.
09:12:33 >>BOB McDONAUGH: First is a monthly report from the CAC for
09:12:41 Ybor City, Mr. Dave Scott.
09:12:42 >> Good morning.
09:12:53 Thank you for the invitation.
09:12:55 I always look forward to spending a few minutes to talk
09:12:57 about Ybor City.
09:12:58 The last time we were together and I had a chance to do
09:13:00 that, I mentioned that we had gone through an 18 month
09:13:06 strategic planning effort and came up with six strategic
09:13:09 objectives that are guiding our work in Ybor.
09:13:13 Those are to increase the residential population of Ybor by
09:13:20 increasing available desire housing as well as enhancing
09:13:23 quality of life.
09:13:23 That's number one.
09:13:25 Number two is increase the volume of visitors, which fuel
09:13:29 our business and our merchants.
09:13:31 Number three is to improve the district's image as a safe,
09:13:35 livable and secure community.
09:13:39 Four is to promote a broader ethnic cultural experience
09:13:42 within the district, closely tied to number 5, which is
09:13:45 preserve historic fabric of the city.
09:13:48 And then 6, expand, balance and diverse if I our business
09:13:53 base and retail services.
09:13:56 Six strategic objectives.
09:13:57 I would like to talk a little bit about each of those.
09:14:00 The first one, attracting residents.
09:14:03 I want to pass along our community's appreciation to the
09:14:08 City Council for passing north Ybor restrictive parking
09:14:13 Here we have a population of almost 1,000 residents and 4507
09:14:17 units that occupy three-plus city blocks, and we are under a
09:14:21 nightly attack from folks that are using the free parking
09:14:25 outside their living room and bedroom windows.
09:14:28 So that is a great quality of life improvement, and I thank
09:14:33 Our planning and infrastructure committee is looking hard
09:14:35 right now at the barriers and disincentives for investment
09:14:41 and development, particularly within our residential spaces,
09:14:46 where are the opportunities, and where are we running into
09:14:48 barriers and disincentives, and marketing committee is
09:14:52 looking at the residential promotional material that would a
09:14:57 company development.
09:15:00 We are moving forward with enhancement of the community of
09:15:05 livable district, walkable district, a pleasant district
09:15:08 with an attractive look and feel.
09:15:10 You are well familiar with the facade improvement program,
09:15:14 been very successful.
09:15:15 We have four programs under way.
09:15:17 Recently, we had private artists as well as some community
09:15:21 members, proposed seven individual public art projects that
09:15:27 will dress up some vacant storefront windows and some other
09:15:32 dead space, perhaps plywood coverage on retail space that's
09:15:36 not being used.
09:15:39 This is specifically addressed in the vision plan from 2005
09:15:42 as something that would pass the quality of life in the
09:15:45 district, and it will be ongoing this summer.
09:15:48 We are very much looking forward to the bypass opening up.
09:15:51 As you know, that will cut the intense commercial traffic
09:15:54 down from 21st and 22nd street and allow us to reunify
09:15:59 east and west across that that natural barrier, plus we'll
09:16:03 get to enhance that corridor with sidewalks and greenscapes,
09:16:08 and a little bit more community-friendly atmosphere.
09:16:14 Some things that we do need to address are additional bike
09:16:18 pathways, green space.
09:16:20 We'll work with the other city funding organizations to do
09:16:25 We are also talking to Robin Nigh from the city art
09:16:29 department over the Lights on Tampa project.
09:16:33 We are lighting our bridges, enhancing the look of downtown
09:16:35 with architectural lighting.
09:16:37 We would like to see an addendum to that plan for Ybor City
09:16:43 to light our district and similarly enhance the appeal.
09:16:48 So that is the community engagement and making the place
09:16:52 more attractive for residents.
09:16:54 For visitors, those of us that are spending a lot of time in
09:16:58 Ybor, have had businesses there, are noticing an increase in
09:17:02 Don Barco recently wrote an excellent editorial in the Tampa
09:17:09 Trib, that the tide is rising.
09:17:11 We are noticing increasing traffic, different types of
09:17:15 people, different hours of the day, different days of the
09:17:21 Marketing program, we assessed that is working.
09:17:24 We had Nielsen corporation do a pro bono assessment of
09:17:28 online discussion, and the things that used to be
09:17:30 detrimental to the city or negative in perception are less
09:17:35 prominent, and the good aspects like food, night life, fun,
09:17:39 walking in the district, those things are beginning to
09:17:42 register a little bit more strongly.
09:17:46 Our events are drawing large and at times record crowds.
09:17:50 We also have a new publication.
09:17:53 Some Tampa community news is no longer in existence.
09:17:56 The company is dissolved, but many of those who work there
09:18:01 reformed, it's now inside Tampa, they have located in Ybor
09:18:05 City in the upstairs space, office areas, and they are
09:18:08 beginning to publish, and they are promoting our district,
09:18:10 so that's a positive move.
09:18:12 The Adamo Drive project, Barrio Latino gave us a certificate
09:18:17 of appropriateness to move forward.
09:18:18 Final design is being formed.
09:18:20 That will be the largest outside public mural in the State
09:18:24 of Florida.
09:18:25 It will illustrate the heritage and history about the
09:18:28 district, and it will be a lightning rod to attract interest
09:18:33 from the 20,000 people who drive back and forth on Adamo
09:18:35 Drive every day, to look north and come visit.
09:18:40 Our events, I mentioned good numbers, Outback Bowl was
09:18:43 tremendous, knight parade, Siesta, Italiano days, week of
09:18:50 the beer festival are drawing good crowds.
09:18:52 We look forward to tropical heat wave Saturday.
09:18:55 And the Cuban sandwich festival later this month.
09:19:00 We have a committee working actually several committees
09:19:03 among the merchants association, Chamber of Commerce are
09:19:06 working to reinvent Guavaween event.
09:19:09 It will probably be multiple days, multiple events, probably
09:19:13 look a lot like tropical heat wave and we look forward to
09:19:18 seeing that final plan.
09:19:19 You will notice Segway tour gangs are out, very popular.
09:19:24 And hospitality Vanns from downtown hotels are coming
09:19:28 through the district in larger numbers and more frequently.
09:19:30 We will continue to ask the mayor in our quarterly meetings
09:19:33 to promote the value of Ybor and all its public
09:19:36 His weekly newsletter, social media engagement and
09:19:40 specifically within the master planning efforts for
09:19:42 Significant decision on the part. Mayor was to allow us to
09:19:48 keep our YCDC administrative offices on 7th Avenue.
09:19:52 That is critical because of the amount of interacts, the
09:19:59 community, business owners and visitors and residences, a
09:20:03 prime spot to come in and engage.
09:20:04 So we thank the mayor for allowing us to stay there.
09:20:07 We also want to thank the Port Authority for living up to
09:20:10 their responsibility to fund the streetcar and keep that
09:20:14 So those kinds of things are generally positive in nature as
09:20:17 far as attracting visitors.
09:20:19 We just need to keep the momentum.
09:20:22 Perception of safety is a little bit more problematic.
09:20:25 The good news is Tampa Police Department is doing a great
09:20:28 job to keep crime down and keep a handle on our public
09:20:32 safety issues, particularly want to thank officer Shaun
09:20:35 Marbere for his efforts, his crime watch that brings local
09:20:40 business owners together is a great move forward.
09:20:43 We look forward to seeing captain Marc Hamlin again and
09:20:46 working with him.
09:20:48 The most serious problem in our perception right now in YCDC
09:20:54 is the remaining discussion on ways to control clubs that
09:20:59 become a public nuisance.
09:21:01 It was October 2nd last year when the Empire shootings
09:21:06 We have been debating what more we might be able to do
09:21:10 proactively instead of reactively to ensure that that does
09:21:13 not happen again.
09:21:14 I will tell you that the community of Ybor and the YCDC has
09:21:18 no tolerance for that kind of behavior from an operator of
09:21:23 an establishment in our community.
09:21:24 It endangers our residents, it destroys all the positive
09:21:28 energy that I have just discussed, and it's our obligation
09:21:34 to do something to prevent it.
09:21:39 We have sent a memo to City Council recommending some
09:21:42 specific actions to be taken.
09:21:45 The key provisions of that memo are charges for operators
09:21:49 whose business activity requires exceptional city services,
09:21:54 police, or clean-up or other damage control.
09:21:57 Better uses of fire marshal's authority to revoke assembly
09:22:01 permits, and review of the finding structure so that it's
09:22:05 more of a deterrent than just an acceptable cost of doing
09:22:11 Significantly, we would like to see large clubs with certain
09:22:18 defined criteria fall under chapter 6 of the city code as
09:22:21 regulated businesses.
09:22:23 It would gives another tool to take action if we think
09:22:26 things are getting out of control.
09:22:29 This area, the perception of public safety in Ybor City, is
09:22:33 the foundation that everything else hinges on.
09:22:37 It's extraordinarily important to us, and we ask for all of
09:22:41 our city officials to help us get something on the books
09:22:44 that we can use.
09:22:45 There is a task force workshop on May 25th where these
09:22:50 topics will be discussed.
09:22:52 And I -- the 24th?
09:22:56 Thank you, ma'am.
09:22:57 On behalf YCDC and the residents of Ybor I would ask that we
09:23:01 come to quick decisions and take action following that
09:23:05 Perception of public safety.
09:23:08 Moving on to ethnic and cultural experience.
09:23:13 Councilwoman Capin is among you on the dais podium, the
09:23:18 desk, I'm not sure what you call your position.
09:23:22 Significant in her forming really the inspiration and
09:23:27 cultural -- I should say the committee for cultural assets,
09:23:30 and within that, there has been a task force developed on
09:23:34 cultural and historic tourism.
09:23:38 You got a sense of what the committee is up to, during the
09:23:41 last report in March, some of the immediate outcomes,
09:23:49 recommendations to streamline the event approval and
09:23:51 planning process.
09:23:51 Those are underway.
09:23:52 And the initiation. Great historic Cuban sandwich wars, hit
09:24:00 a very high peak on NPS radio, if you go online and Google
09:24:05 up Cuban sandwich NPR, you will see the discussion.
09:24:13 We will come back.
09:24:14 The committee will come back to you in September or October
09:24:18 with hopefully some specific recommendations on how best to
09:24:22 take advantage of the strategic resource N.our view, as YCDC
09:24:27 now, and we look at our district of Ybor, we get a sense --
09:24:31 we have in our cultural roots and our historic fabric a
09:24:35 natural resource, as much value as Texas, we are just not
09:24:43 drilling it enough and we need to get energy under those
09:24:46 Historic fabric, you will notice in February the Ferlita
09:24:50 macaroni factory reopened, the mayor came down, and if you
09:24:54 saw the overhead imagery of that before its restoration, you
09:25:01 cannot overcompliment all of those involved in bringing that
09:25:05 project online.
09:25:07 Great move forward to preserve our historic fabric.
09:25:11 The good news there.
09:25:13 Bad news is there's many other potential buildings that need
09:25:16 renovation, and we just need to find a way to make similar
09:25:21 types of improvements.
09:25:24 Of note, Ybor museum has an architectural tour now that is
09:25:27 becoming very popular, and there are interested parties
09:25:30 right now talking with Barrio Latino, taking stock of how
09:25:34 many street bricks are in our inventory, and seeing whether
09:25:37 or not we can restore the authentic look of 7th Avenue
09:25:45 with its brick paving.
09:25:48 The last challenge is how do we balance and enhance our
09:25:53 business community?
09:25:54 You will note that the national headquarters for college
09:25:59 hunks hauling junk is now in Ybor City, it's bringing jobs,
09:26:03 and populating a 30,000 square foot warehouse on 8th
09:26:06 Avenue which is nothing but good for us.
09:26:08 I mentioned inside Tampa magazine has moved into town.
09:26:13 Small investment continues.
09:26:15 The James Joyce has reopened.
09:26:18 We have stone chef which had a small catering business and
09:26:21 special event, shotgun establishment, moving now to the old
09:26:25 tabernus steak.
09:26:29 Dave Sunday is moving his restaurant over there as well.
09:26:33 That whole half a city block on the opposite end from where
09:26:37 Empire is, is going to get new life breathed into it.
09:26:41 Small investments mean a lot.
09:26:44 There is a very true statement that confidence expressed in
09:26:51 investment by small businesses and the filling up of
09:26:54 storefronts that indicates and ignites movement forward, and
09:26:58 more development.
09:26:58 If you talk to a lot of the communities who have
09:27:00 transitioned as Ybor hopes to do, that's kind of the spark
09:27:04 that starts it.
09:27:06 And I'm doing my part as well as a personal business owner
09:27:09 to promote that kind of confidence.
09:27:13 I will finish this area by highlighting to you the EB-5
09:27:19 enterprise zone initiative that is sparkling all across the
09:27:23 United States right now.
09:27:24 If you haven't gone to Google and EB-5 enterprise zone I
09:27:31 highly recommend you do it.
09:27:32 Several cities including Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, Dallas, are
09:27:35 really highlighting this opportunity.
09:27:37 And for us from YCDC, Ybor City, $10 million could probably
09:27:42 completely rebuild the district.
09:27:46 That's 20 new immigrants picked up under an enterprise
09:27:51 Extraordinarily powerful.
09:27:53 For a community that attracted 10,000 immigrants to build it
09:27:56 in the first planning district place, to get 20 now to come,
09:27:59 reinvent it or rebuild it or reenergize, I think is very
09:28:03 doable and something we need to pay a lot of attention to.
09:28:06 So those are my comments on our six strategic objectives,
09:28:09 gives you kind of a state of the union for Ybor and YCDC.
09:28:15 My last comment is to remind you that our Ybor CRA-1
09:28:20 authorization expires in 2015.
09:28:21 We have more work than three years of TIF funding will
09:28:28 On behalf of the board and our residents and our business
09:28:31 owners, very much request and appreciate your support for
09:28:36 extension of that CRA 1 authorization.
09:28:39 That's the end of my report.
09:28:40 And I stand by for any questions.
09:28:44 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you for that report.
09:28:45 It's quite extensive and very much appreciated.
09:28:48 I'm going to touch on a couple of points that you made.
09:28:52 One of them was on the perception.
09:28:54 And I'm very happy to hear that.
09:28:55 I might share that I was the first retailer to sign a lease
09:29:03 in 1971, I think, or -- '71, and back then, the perception
09:29:10 was that Ybor was a high-crime area.
09:29:14 I can tell you, it was impossible.
09:29:15 There was no one there.
09:29:17 And that was the mantra.
09:29:20 Then I had a retail store on 7th Avenue, same thing, in
09:29:24 the '70s, very wonderful place, people were -- artists
09:29:30 were there.
09:29:31 So the perception has been ingrained for many, many years.
09:29:37 So I'm glad to see this.
09:29:39 And it is changing, very much changing, and to keep up that
09:29:44 As far as the mural on Adamo Drive, I sit on the -- I serve
09:29:53 on the public arts committee, and we had a presentation from
09:29:57 the artists.
09:30:00 It is really something to behold.
09:30:03 It transforms that drive coming in very much.
09:30:07 I actually would love to see if the artist would be willing
09:30:10 to come and make a presentation to City Council and show his
09:30:15 work and progress.
09:30:20 And when you mention the EB-5, as you may know, we are going
09:30:25 to workshop the EB-5 on June 21st and that came about as
09:30:33 a meeting that I had with the mayor of Miami, and I called
09:30:38 it the Cuban sandwich diplomacy because it all evolved from
09:30:42 the Cuban sandwich resolution that we had here.
09:30:46 And we will be work shopping for the City of Tampa, the
09:30:50 And it is a program that this administration, it was started
09:30:55 in 1992, but that this administration is really behind and
09:31:00 making sure that the investments are what they are supposed
09:31:04 to be, and it has been -- there's only two cities in the
09:31:08 United States that are EB -5 region, and that's Dallas and
09:31:13 the city of Miami.
09:31:14 I would very much like to see the City of Tampa be an EB-5
09:31:18 region. So thank you for that.
09:31:20 And thank you for also mentioning the cultural assets,
09:31:24 economic development committee and its work.
09:31:29 And, again, Ybor -- I started first grade VM Ybor
09:31:36 It is part of who I am and part of who all of us are.
09:31:39 So I appreciate your presentation.
09:31:42 Thank you.
09:31:42 >> And if I double your comments, we are making progress
09:31:50 butt today it is still a problem.
09:31:52 I am trying to open a business right now that will be open
09:31:56 until 3 in the morning because liquor will be served.
09:32:01 Two companies turned us down because they said it was too
09:32:04 dangerous, and the crime was out of hand in Ybor City.
09:32:08 In the trip adviser, we still get negative press on the
09:32:11 military base, people are still being advised to stay out of
09:32:15 the district.
09:32:15 So this is a very, very significant fight, and it will not
09:32:19 be helped when the Empire reopens.
09:32:22 We theory application has been made in order to re-fire up
09:32:26 that enterprise.
09:32:27 So this is very much a live fight.
09:32:30 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mrs. Montelione.
09:32:34 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Several things on topic.
09:32:39 And there seems to be a disconnect because you had said that
09:32:42 in the Nielsen poll -- and how nice to do that pro bono for
09:32:46 us -- that the perception was less negative, but then
09:32:54 continuing on in your report, safety issues continue, and
09:33:02 our add campaign, people are getting the perception that we
09:33:06 are doing a good job of stemming the crime in Ybor City, but
09:33:11 yet we continue to have issues?
09:33:15 >> Good question, ma'am.
09:33:16 I think the way I explain it, it's like shifting where the
09:33:20 spotlight shines.
09:33:22 Nielsen did web based research.
09:33:26 They went to all the Internet traffic, and that gives us a
09:33:28 picture of what those who are on the Internet site they are
09:33:33 talking about, and the trending is better.
09:33:35 It's better this year, and they looked over a full calendar
09:33:38 year's conversation.
09:33:39 So we are very happy with that.
09:33:43 On the editorial side, talking about the bar code, generally
09:33:47 The media is giving Ybor a fair coverage these days, which
09:33:50 is a very positive development.
09:33:51 And I mention we are seeing anecdotally life on the street
09:33:56 is coming up and our events, all that are positive.
09:33:59 But if you shine the spotlight on the insurance companies,
09:34:02 on what taxicabs are recommending in the back seat of cars,
09:34:07 what residents in different parts of the Tampa community are
09:34:11 telling their guests who are coming to town, there's still a
09:34:15 latent image of an out-of-control place that's ten years
09:34:19 old, and that's what we need to continuously press to
09:34:24 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And we talk about the commercial
09:34:26 corridors of Ybor.
09:34:28 But the residential neighborhood areas of Ybor, what is the
09:34:35 status or can you give me an idea of the safety of our
09:34:40 residents and the streets for the neighbors to walk their
09:34:46 dogs or, you know, bring their children out to play, and
09:34:49 those kinds of areas off of the commercial corridors?
09:34:55 >>> I'll represent that as best that I can.
09:34:57 I am the president of the homeowner association Ybor City
09:35:04 and the largest concern was with club goers who park and
09:35:08 then come back at three in the morning and party in their
09:35:11 cars right outside of the strip.
09:35:12 That was a great nuisance factor.
09:35:16 I will tell you that the residents who live in the corridor
09:35:19 enjoy being there, they are telling their friends it's a
09:35:21 good place to live, they are walking their dogs, the ladies
09:35:25 are walking unescorted to and from the district from the
09:35:29 residential areas.
09:35:31 My sense of the areas south of 7th Avenue very close to
09:35:36 the commercial zone is some dissatisfaction with noise
09:35:40 levels code enforcement issues, garbage and things of that
09:35:43 nature, not a real pain point on crime.
09:35:48 TPD is pretty much up on that.
09:35:50 We would like to see more cops on bikes.
09:35:52 We would like to see more horses.
09:35:54 We would like to see less cruiser traffic and more
09:35:58 We will work with captain Hamlin on the footprint for that
09:36:01 on the way forward.
09:36:02 We would like to see our Ybor liaison on a 24 hour basis.
09:36:10 Right now we have day shift.
09:36:14 We would like a counterpart working the nights so we have a
09:36:17 24 hour friend of Ybor on the police department.
09:36:21 We have east Ybor.
09:36:24 When you cross that natural barrier of the 21st and 22nd
09:36:29 street, I think Fran Costantino is here in the room with us.
09:36:35 She will have a less sanguine view of the level of comfort
09:36:39 in that area.
09:36:43 It's a much more challenging area and less control, so we
09:36:45 have some issues there to increase the sense of the
09:36:49 community as a safe and secure neighborhood and encourage
09:36:53 people to move in and develop those areas.
09:36:54 >>LISA MONTELIONE: You did mention the workshop for the
09:37:00 24th, and I would encourage you to talk to your
09:37:04 homeowners association, the civic association, the community
09:37:09 to come out and be, at least here in the room, to show
09:37:13 support for controls on that.
09:37:15 And then on a totally different subject, you mentioned the
09:37:20 artists and coming in and doing some of the windows in Ybor.
09:37:26 And I have talked before to probably -- not here in this
09:37:30 room, but behind the scenes to our economic development
09:37:35 staff and talking about pop-up galleries, or pop-up
09:37:40 restaurants, or pop-up history centers in locating into
09:37:48 those vacant spaces.
09:37:50 And I have seen it all over the country when I was in
09:37:55 Washington, D.C. over the summer, last summer, I had the
09:38:00 fortune to visit a few of them.
09:38:03 And it really is a great program.
09:38:05 It's something that is coordinated by the economic
09:38:08 development group in those neighborhoods.
09:38:11 So bringing that idea one step further.
09:38:15 And I'm sorry I don't know the address of it but everybody
09:38:19 is familiar with the building that's just before Walls and
09:38:26 in a interior space, historic preservation.
09:38:28 We kept the facade up.
09:38:30 And you walk by there, and I see people peering into the
09:38:35 gates, you know, behind the building, and perhaps you could
09:38:38 talk to the artists and some of the historians and the Ybor
09:38:42 history museum to maybe put up some placards or photographs
09:38:48 or little maybe informational type boards on why that
09:38:56 building is standing there, why it's like that, with the --
09:39:00 what the history of it is.
09:39:02 And I think for visitors or for tourists, it might be
09:39:08 turning an eyesore into an opportunity for public engagement
09:39:14 and for learning for the community and for our tourists.
09:39:20 I think just having it there and people looking in and
09:39:26 going, hmmm, I wonder what this is about, to an engagement
09:39:30 piece and history piece and art piece I think might be a
09:39:33 good project to work on.
09:39:35 >>> Yes, ma'am.
09:39:37 Thank you.
09:39:37 >>FRANK REDDICK: Anybody else wishing to speak at this
09:39:41 Thank you, Mr. Scott.
09:39:45 This one item almost last the time that our CRA meeting
09:39:51 We won't be through in 20 minutes.
09:39:53 Thank you very much for that information.
09:39:57 Bob, what do we have next?
09:39:58 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Just an update on some of the activities
09:40:02 that happened in the past month.
09:40:06 At City Council, you approved a completed lease for the
09:40:09 courthouse, and pursuing his plans right now.
09:40:13 Thank you very much.
09:40:14 I went to a very nice ribbon cutting again in Ybor City at
09:40:18 the U.S. America bank, the old Columbia bank, and they have
09:40:23 done a beautiful job of restoring the building, very
09:40:26 tastefully done, again a 7th Avenue project.
09:40:29 The related companies is underway with construction in the
09:40:32 Channel District.
09:40:33 And remember that's a 356 unit apartment complex under
09:40:38 And later on today, you will have the opportunity of
09:40:42 providing some approvals for facade grants.
09:40:45 But just as an update, this year we have done 27 of them.
09:40:49 And it's about $141,000 in public money and $921,000 in
09:40:55 private investment.
09:40:56 And so it's proven to be a very positive project.
09:41:04 We have a meeting coming up.
09:41:07 I believe we have agreed on a date and you should get a memo
09:41:10 shortly for the June meeting which will be in the Channel
09:41:12 District, and that will be an evening meeting at 5:30.
09:41:19 To be at the Florida Aquarium or Tampa Port Authority
09:41:21 We are working out the details now.
09:41:23 So you will get a memo on that shortly.
09:41:27 And as I requested, moving item number 4 to the end of the
09:41:34 agenda, what I would like to do right now is public comment
09:41:37 and then we can go on to the approvals.
09:41:45 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I have a commitment that I have to be at
09:41:48 within the next few minutes.
09:41:50 I did some research on this, and I would like to present it,
09:41:54 and then I have to leave.
09:41:56 Can that be done or not?
09:41:57 >>FRANK REDDICK: Well, this pertains to an item on the
09:42:05 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yes.
09:42:05 >>FRANK REDDICK: Well, does anyone object to it?
09:42:12 All right, go ahead.
09:42:14 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.
09:42:15 I did some research.
09:42:15 I went to -- just real brief, in 2005, I spent an extended
09:42:22 period in Spain.
09:42:23 Many people know my husband is from Spain, whats born in a
09:42:27 house that's 400 years old N.2005 in Spain it was a big deal
09:42:32 that was announced that the Spanish academy of Spain
09:42:36 recognized that all Spanish is correct.
09:42:42 Puerto Rican Spanish, Mexican Spanish, Columbian Spanish.
09:42:47 At that time they brought forth a dictionary that is 4,000
09:42:50 There are 20 words for the word "pen."
09:42:54 So I went back, and it piqued my interest because it said it
09:43:01 was found in the Royal Academy of Spain's language.
09:43:05 So I put it in exactly the way it's spelled, which actually
09:43:10 is the pronunciation of the way it's spelled is S-E-T-I-M-A
09:43:17 is -- I'm sorry, Setima.
09:43:24 The way it's spelled, it's pronounced in Spanish is Setima,
09:43:28 because the accent defaults to the second vowel unless you
09:43:32 have an accent on the first vowel.
09:43:34 Therefore, in this research, when I put in Setima it said
09:43:40 there was -- it could not find that.
09:43:42 But they did find Setima with the accent over the E and
09:43:49 corrected it.
09:43:49 Then I went further, and clicked onto Setima with the accent
09:43:54 over the E and it came up to Setima which means 7th, so
09:44:04 it is in the dictionary except it is wrong because in
09:44:07 Spanish the accent is extremely important in how you
09:44:09 pronounce the word.
09:44:10 So when people look at that sign, they are reading, if they
09:44:14 read Spanish, and this is high school Spanish on where your
09:44:18 accent is, is they are reading Setima.
09:44:24 So, therefore, from the research of the Royal Academy, and
09:44:29 Spain is the one that invented this language, and because if
09:44:35 the language is organic, the Spanish academy acknowledged
09:44:40 this, and therefore in 2005, declared that all Spanish was
09:44:46 correct, not just the Castillion, and I did some research
09:44:54 and found on the Web site -- and I just told you what I
09:44:56 found on there.
09:44:58 For instance, Texas, T-E-X-A-S, is the old Spanish word for
09:45:07 In the new dictionary it's T-E-J-A-S.
09:45:16 Mexico is the same; it's the old Spanish. So you have many
09:45:17 versions of the word.
09:45:18 So Setima is correct except the accent is not there.
09:45:22 Therefore, it is read in Spanish Setima.
09:45:29 So that's the research.
09:45:30 And I have to leave now.
09:45:31 And I thank you forgiving me this time.
09:45:34 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you for educating us.
09:45:37 >>HARRY COHEN: Can I ask her a question?
09:45:40 Are you leaving us with any recommendation?
09:45:45 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.
09:45:45 The recommendation, it is correct according to the -- I will
09:45:50 read in the Spanish.
09:45:51 (Speaking Spanish)
09:45:54 The last word on the Spanish language, except that the
09:45:58 accent, it needs to have that accent in order to be
09:46:02 pronounced correctly.
09:46:03 >>HARRY COHEN: So either way you would want to replace the
09:46:07 street sign with either the accent or the other letter?
09:46:13 >>YVONNE CAPIN: If Spanish speakers come and read it, it is
09:46:15 red Setima without the accent over the E as I said before.
09:46:19 So, yes, it is needed, in my opinion.
09:46:23 >>MARY MULHERN: I just want to say one thing. Don't know
09:46:31 if you need to hear this.
09:46:32 But Yolie, one question before you run out.
09:46:35 Does it say anything with that definition?
09:46:38 Is that a variation?
09:46:40 I don't know what the royal Spanish dictionary, but if you
09:46:42 look at the English dictionary, they'll tell you if it's the
09:46:49 common spelling or variation.
09:46:52 >>YVONNE CAPIN: No, it is not a variation.
09:46:53 They acknowledge all the Spanish.
09:46:55 Like I said, there's 20 words for the word ball point pen.
09:47:00 So that was done in 2005 and it was a real big deal in
09:47:04 So thank you.
09:47:05 >> May I ask the board's pleasure?
09:47:13 If we can do the facade grants because some of those folks
09:47:16 are here right now, and then have the public comments.
09:47:18 Because I have a suspicion that perhaps the public comments
09:47:21 might have something to do with item number 4 on the agenda.
09:47:24 >>FRANK REDDICK: You have someone that wants to make a
09:47:32 comment about the facade grant?
09:47:34 >>BOB McDONAUGH: If that's the board's pleasure, please.
09:47:37 Item number 5, which wags -- we would do the approvals, and
09:47:41 then have the public comments, if that please it is board.
09:47:44 >>FRANK REDDICK: That's fine?
09:47:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Chairman, do you want them
09:47:54 I November resolution, 5.
09:47:59 >>MARY MULHERN: Second.
09:48:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: Item number 5.
09:48:03 All those in favor?
09:48:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I move resolution number 6.
09:48:09 >>FRANK REDDICK: Seconded by Mrs. Mulhern.
09:48:11 All in favor of the resolution?
09:48:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Move resolution number 7.
09:48:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: Same.
09:48:18 All those in favor?
09:48:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Move resolution number 8, Mr. Chairman.
09:48:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Second bid Mrs. Mulhern.
09:48:25 All in favor of the resolution?
09:48:29 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Thank you very much.
09:48:31 >>FRANK REDDICK: Public comments.
09:48:35 Does anyone want to speak?
09:48:37 Please come forward at this time.
09:48:39 State your name.
09:48:39 You have three minutes.
09:48:40 >> I'm Linda Saul-Sena from 157 Biscayne, here to speak
09:48:46 about the CRA districts that have riverfront.
09:48:50 So downtown, Tampa Heights, and Channel District.
09:48:56 Tampa has a beautiful river.
09:48:59 Thank goodness this mayor is talking about how important it
09:49:01 is, and previous mayors putting in the riverwalk, it's one
09:49:07 of our best assets.
09:49:08 One of the things that I want to encourage you all to do as
09:49:11 a CRA is to not put parking on the river.
09:49:15 It seems so obvious.
09:49:17 When I was on council we actually voted to protect the
09:49:20 riverfront by not putting parking on it.
09:49:22 But as you move forward, and as we become a more urban
09:49:26 place, what I want to encourage you to do is to make sure
09:49:29 that if there's valet parking provided that perhaps people
09:49:34 don't have to create the surface parking, and that whatever
09:49:36 you do, don't put the parking on the water.
09:49:39 We have done a good job on Harbor Island in terms of not
09:49:43 having parking on the water, done a good job with where the
09:49:47 history center is and our park there, and where our Straz
09:49:51 center and the Tampa Art Museum are.
09:49:54 But moving forward, I want you to be keenly aware of this,
09:49:57 because it's such a rare and special resource we have, and
09:50:02 we used to say that the parking structure next to the Straz,
09:50:05 if you want to have a meal and look at the water, that you
09:50:08 should get a cheeseburger and go up to the roof.
09:50:11 That we now know better. We won't do that in the future.
09:50:14 I want you all to stand firm and not put any parking on the
09:50:18 Thank you.
09:50:18 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
09:50:23 Jim Shark, 8705 Cove Court in the county, and I'm here to
09:50:28 talk about the issue of parking along the river as well.
09:50:31 I have something from a few years ago.
09:50:34 Riverwalk T-shirt.
09:50:36 Just want to remind everybody that it doesn't say river
09:50:38 parking T-shirt.
09:50:40 It says riverwalk.
09:50:42 I would like to encourage the city to consider bicycle
09:50:45 parking to be the equivalent of parking spaces for cars.
09:50:48 The riverwalk area is a marvelous present and future amenity
09:50:54 for the city.
09:50:55 And if it's accessible by bicycle it's even better.
09:50:58 So I would like to encourage the City of Tampa to consider
09:51:01 bicycle parking to be at least a partial equivalent to
09:51:05 surface parking.
09:51:06 Thanks very much.
09:51:07 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
09:51:09 >> Robert Orbeck, 3306 West Palmira.
09:51:19 I am a senior environmental scientist in the west central
09:51:22 Florida area.
09:51:24 And I have advanced certification in MPDS storm water
09:51:30 inspection through the Florida Department of Environmental
09:51:34 And adding on to what's already been said, building
09:51:39 additional impervious parking spaces in close proximity to
09:51:43 the Hillsborough River will contribute to adverse effects on
09:51:47 the water quality of an already impaired river system that
09:51:52 flows directly into Tampa Bay.
09:51:54 Numerous studies have been conducted to identify the various
09:51:57 types of toxic chemicals and their effect on the environment
09:52:01 that occur when untreated runoff from impervious surfaces is
09:52:06 allowed into the stormwater system.
09:52:08 Some of the worst pollution comes from vehicles sitting in
09:52:11 parking lots as evidenced by the dark spot that's often seen
09:52:15 in the center of parking spaces.
09:52:18 Oil, grease, antifreeze, transmission fluid, drip onto the
09:52:23 pavement and are collected between rain events.
09:52:27 In a process called atmospheric deposition, automobile
09:52:31 exhaust and power plant emissions also settle on the parking
09:52:36 lots and the surrounding land where heavy metal such as
09:52:39 copper, zinc, lead, chromium, cadmium, Mercury and other
09:52:45 toxic dust are accumulated.
09:52:47 During a rain event, our stormwater runs off into the -- off
09:52:51 the impervious surface in the parking lot in the adjacent
09:52:56 The entrainment of these heavy toxic chemicals, microbial
09:53:00 contaminants, sediment and other debris occurs.
09:53:04 Ultimately discharging into the nearby aquatic habitats
09:53:09 negatively impacting water quality and the stream function.
09:53:15 Therefore, in the spirit of sustainable environmental
09:53:19 stewardship, the addition of untreated stormwater should be
09:53:22 eliminated rather than promoted.
09:53:25 Thank you.
09:53:26 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
09:53:50 >>SAL TERRITO: We have a sign-in sheet.
09:53:55 Let me call the names and see if they are here.
09:53:59 (off microphone)
09:54:01 This gives you an additional minute for each of those, a
09:54:08 total of six minutes.
09:54:10 Follow the same rules as City Council.
09:54:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
09:54:15 You have six minutes.
09:54:16 >> Good morning, council.
09:54:18 Thank you very much.
09:54:19 I want to thank Mike Suarez especially forgiving the people
09:54:24 a chance to have their voices heard.
09:54:25 I want to thank Mr. Reddick for seconding that motion.
09:54:29 I sent you all a package yesterday which gave a oh lot of
09:54:35 glory, a lot of the history of what we have been fighting
09:54:38 since 2008.
09:54:39 But in that package you had endorsement letters from
09:54:42 La Gaceta newspaper, traced tall way back to the early
09:54:45 1920s and found no reference to the spelling on those
09:54:50 We have a letter from the USF library and a letter from the
09:54:53 Tampa Bay history center all supporting the change of the
09:54:56 signs to the correct spelling.
09:54:58 Now, I brought books for you to see.
09:55:01 And if somebody can help me with the Elmo, please.
09:55:09 Here is a book by Amelio Delrio
09:55:17 Fundaores de Ybor City.
09:55:22 In the back we have the honorable FM Ybor.
09:55:30 It shows a picture of 7th Avenue.
09:55:32 And then way down, it says, Septima with a P.
09:55:46 On the other side we also have another picture of 7th
09:55:49 Avenue, Septima with a P.
09:55:59 So there are the books that we have representing that.
09:56:03 We have a book written by Gary GORMILO.
09:56:12 He refers in his book to the word Septima with a P.
09:56:16 We have a book written by Frank CORSO who I believe passed
09:56:22 on but he also was a native, and in his book he referred to
09:56:25 Septima with a P.
09:56:28 I must have loaned out some of my books.
09:56:31 >>HARRY COHEN: Excuse me.
09:56:39 I just want to point out that other than this one, they all
09:56:44 also have the accent that Councilwoman Capin was talking
09:56:47 Just as an observation, with the exception of that one.
09:56:51 >> In his book, I they think these came to have Internet
09:56:58 because I lent my books to somebody.
09:57:00 And, also, there was one written by our famous historian
09:57:04 Tony PISO.
09:57:12 We are selling stationery in the Ybor museum book store that
09:57:16 refers to La Setima.
09:57:21 We have the famous restaurant in Brandon that it was spelled
09:57:27 the way the signs read which obviously that is not.
09:57:33 When people Google, you will see this came from Google from
09:57:36 Tampa, and it has 7th Avenue, La Septima, but they are
09:57:46 also -- they are admitting it's misspelled.
09:57:53 These they are just saying it's a colloquialism, whatever
09:57:56 that means.
09:57:56 But I wish Yolie would have been here for this.
09:58:01 Someone did research in the middle of the night sent this to
09:58:03 me at 5:08 this morning and he went to the Royal Academy,
09:58:08 here it is, the Spanish Royal Academy dictionary, who refers
09:58:12 you to another site, and on that site it says --
09:58:21 (Speaking Spanish)
09:58:24 So it's saying actually that Septima and Septimo are not
09:58:33 Depending on which side you're on, you can find backup for,
09:58:37 I guess, whatever.
09:58:40 My point is that this is not meant in any way to demean or
09:58:43 disrespect Mr. Lastra.
09:58:49 According to -- Fernando had a conflict.
09:58:58 I saw him yesterday.
09:58:59 But he also wanted to come to represent us.
09:59:01 But Amiliano does state that Frank's book is one of the best
09:59:06 books ever written on the history of Ybor City.
09:59:09 He actually wrote the forward to the book.
09:59:14 And he said that the only one issue that he has with the
09:59:18 book is that you will see -- and I don't know where they've
09:59:25 one -- and it's so strange that I don't understand how Mr.
09:59:30 Lastra can have in his -- I'm going to go to it -- can
09:59:43 have -- that you can write 488 pages and not one
09:59:50 reference -- I have highlighted it on the other but you can
09:59:54 see from here to here, in a book of 688 pages, never once is
10:00:00 the correct spelling of Septima with a P in a book compared
10:00:05 to all those.
10:00:06 This is the only book ever that I can find, the only
10:00:10 reference ever to Ybor City that does not have Septima
10:00:13 spelled with a P.
10:00:14 (Bell sounds)
10:00:17 Just to show you the signs on 7th Avenue, and there are
10:00:20 some that are blown out that we have to do something with
10:00:22 them anyway, I'm just asking that we honor him in a
10:00:32 different way.
10:00:32 I'm not trying to disrespect him but we can put a plaque for
10:00:35 him and the Ybor museum state park, or honor him in a
10:00:41 different way. He does deserve the honor.
10:00:42 But I don't feel it's right to make the record from the
10:00:46 natives appear illiterate and uneducated.
10:00:49 And just one last thing.
10:00:51 There's a thing that they sent me, that you can see Setima
10:00:56 and the phone number was only 914.
10:00:58 So I just ask that I feel like if you make the decision to
10:01:02 support the change to LA Setima you don't have to feel
10:01:09 embarrassed, downtown have to feel ignorant.
10:01:12 This is the only reference out of all the books that has it
10:01:15 spelled that way.
10:01:16 And of all the documentation, I feel like you can have a
10:01:19 clear conscience if we vote to change out the signs -- signs
10:01:22 are minimal -- that we will not look embarrassed in the
10:01:29 media .
10:01:34 The thank you.
10:01:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: Next.
10:01:37 >> Good morning, City Council members.
10:01:39 My name is Miguel Baluha, Jr, 611 north Lincoln Avenue in
10:01:45 I was born in Ybor City at Gonzalez clinic.
10:01:48 My father Miguel Sr. was employed by the Columbia restaurant
10:01:54 for 29 years and was a maitre d' there until his death in
10:01:58 My mother was raised in Ybor City where her family owned a
10:02:01 produce market on 7th Avenue.
10:02:03 My uncle Andreas MINO were fruit truck vendors who drove
10:02:10 the streets of Ybor City for many years.
10:02:12 Although I was raised in West Tampa, my roots are in Ybor
10:02:15 The reason I am here today is to show my support for the
10:02:17 changing the street signs on 7th Avenue to reflect the
10:02:22 correct spelling of La Septima with the P included.
10:02:27 I have a great deal of respect for those who have chosen to
10:02:30 refer to it as La Setima, and I understand it is a show of
10:02:35 affection towards our multicultural forefathers who may have
10:02:38 pronounced it that way but I think most of us would agree if
10:02:41 we all went by the wait we POMPANOS pronounced our word we
10:02:48 would have a new and distinct language host bid a -- with a
10:02:52 host spelling conflicts and literal misinterpretations.
10:02:57 La Setima is the most widely used selling of 7th Avenue
10:03:06 and why I want our street signs spelled that way.
10:03:08 If you want to argue it will cost the city too much money
10:03:11 make the change I can empathize with that argument but you
10:03:14 can't argue that the current spelling continually raise it
10:03:17 is question in everyone's minds, why are the signs on
10:03:21 7th Avenue spelled incorrectly?
10:03:24 Sooner or later, the correction needs to be made and I would
10:03:27 like to see it come sooner than later.
10:03:29 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
10:03:31 >>> I too have extra minutes.
10:03:45 >>SAL TERRITO: (off microphone).
10:03:48 >> Five minutes.
10:03:51 >> My name is Mario Nunez. I reside at 15019, Rocky Ledge
10:03:57 Drive in Tampa 33625.
10:03:58 Thank you for hearing our voices today.
10:04:00 As the co-host of the Tampa Native Show, the only show of
10:04:03 its kind on TV or the Internet anywhere, that has dedicated
10:04:06 itself to preserving the memories and history of Tampa, I
10:04:09 come to you today to ask for your support.
10:04:11 My great grandmother came to Tampa as a young girl from Cuba
10:04:14 in 1895.
10:04:16 My grandmother was born in Ybor City in 1901.
10:04:19 Her son, my father, who is here today, was born in Ybor City
10:04:23 at 2408-15th Street in 1928.
10:04:27 I was born in the old St. Joseph hospital in 1958 and my
10:04:31 oldest son Alex was born here in 1983.
10:04:33 That's five generations.
10:04:37 My roots run deep and my pride is unshakeable. I stand
10:04:39 before you as a member of a group of ardent supporters of
10:04:42 item number 4 on the CRA agenda today to replace the
10:04:45 misspelled signs along 7th Avenue.
10:04:48 Let's not allow our brethren from the south to pick us apart
10:04:51 for being so boorish that we can't even spell la Septima
10:04:58 The nation's eyes will soon be upon us this August as the
10:05:01 RNC conducts their business in Tampa, not Tampa Bay.
10:05:04 Not only will Miami take full liberty to embarrass us for
10:05:09 our ignorance, but Texas, New York, New Jersey, and all
10:05:12 across this great land will be confused by this egregious
10:05:16 To consider placement of signage to explain the intentional
10:05:18 misspelling of la Septima is hoolhardy at best.
10:05:26 The time to act is now. In my life I have never heard
10:05:29 anyone refer to 7th Avenue in Ybor City as anything
10:05:32 other than la Septima.
10:05:37 If we don't care enough for what's accurate and correct
10:05:41 what's next?
10:05:41 A motion before City Council to change the name of our city
10:05:44 from Tampa to Tampa Bay?
10:05:45 When I grew up here, Tampa Bay was a place you went fishing
10:05:48 and crabbing.
10:05:51 La Septima is where you went with your dad to get a suit, or
10:05:56 to watch them make Cuban sandwiches, not Sangwiches in the
10:06:02 window of the Silverine.
10:06:02 Where you went to make banking business at the Broadway
10:06:07 La Septima is where my mom worked at Martin Uniforms and
10:06:09 where my dad worked at the Columbia restaurant for 25 years,
10:06:12 and where my abuela worked at alagria restaurant.
10:06:17 When will this foolishness stop?
10:06:19 Lastly on a personal note this flag I am holding was given
10:06:22 to me by the late Marselo Macella.
10:06:31 We lost that Tampa legend but weeks later -- and I'm sure
10:06:34 he's guiding our efforts today -- Marcella, this is for you.
10:06:39 And I'm so glad to be hold with my friend Fran Costantino.
10:06:45 I have never met with anyone with more pride to help people.
10:06:50 She's a shining example of the very best Ybor City has to
10:06:54 We love you, Frannie, and we will always have your back.
10:06:58 Quickly from a colleague of mine, Steve Conolla and
10:07:03 co-founder of the Tampa natives groups and my co-host on
10:07:06 tonight's Tampa native show.
10:07:07 He writes: Dear members of Tampa City Council, I fully
10:07:10 support the correct of la Septima street signs in Ybor City.
10:07:14 The other day I found an old photograph from my great
10:07:17 grandfather -- this is a picture that Fran showed you -- and
10:07:21 the picture backing showed the address to Adams Catz
10:07:28 photography, a street of address of Septima Avenue, Tampa,
10:07:34 Also going back to the original spelling.
10:07:36 Thank you.
10:07:37 Steve CANELLA.
10:07:40 I have a minute and 16 seconds left.
10:07:42 Man, I went fast.
10:07:43 Let's say this.
10:07:44 Thank you, Mr. Chairman and fellow council members, we
10:07:46 appreciate your time and your consideration.
10:07:48 I just wrote these notes down here in clogs.
10:07:51 I have a minute.
10:07:52 I will utilize the time to extend my comments to my remarks.
10:07:55 You know, oh some would have you say the sign should stay
10:07:59 the same, that it is important and it's only a colloquialism
10:08:05 But I say to you, some of these people that are making these
10:08:09 claims aren't even from Ybor City, or from Tampa, and they
10:08:13 don't even speak Spanish.
10:08:14 They are not tied to the soil, they are not tied to the
10:08:18 What is their motivation?
10:08:20 Opportunists is the only word that comes to mind.
10:08:22 I have 33 seconds left.
10:08:24 I'm all done.
10:08:25 Sorry for getting emotional.
10:08:27 My name is MARIO, and the Tampa native show is on tonight at
10:08:32 7:00 if anybody wants to tune in.
10:08:34 Thank you.
10:08:40 >> I'm Marlene Museda.
10:08:43 I'm here on behalf of my father, Marcella, who had been
10:08:48 speaking with Fran Costantino on this issue.
10:08:51 Even though he grew up in West Tampa, I spent most of my
10:08:55 childhood in Ybor City.
10:08:58 My daughter now lives in Ybor City.
10:09:00 I still spend a lot of time down here.
10:09:03 I belong to lozalmos.
10:09:08 So Ybor City was very close to our hearts.
10:09:10 And I am just ask on behalf of my father that you do the
10:09:15 right thing and correct the signs to have what they grew up
10:09:19 knowing la Septima with the P.
10:09:23 Thank you.
10:09:24 >> Good morning, chairman Reddick, Mr. Territo. My name is
10:09:31 Don Rhode, located at 412 Madison street. In reference to
10:09:34 item 2 and 4, 4 coming first, I guess, just for a movement
10:09:42 when a mistake is made -- and anybody can make one, and
10:09:46 sometimes their proofreader can miss the mistake -- you just
10:09:50 admit you made a mistake and go on to the next thing.
10:09:54 I truly hope that based upon not just the emotion but also
10:09:57 the fact of it being blatant and incorrect that you will fix
10:10:02 those signs in short order because they make us look bad.
10:10:09 And unless you are going to thumb tack the Capin memo to
10:10:17 each one of those signs so people can drive by and look at
10:10:20 it and say, oh, now I get it, it could have been an
10:10:22 alternative spelling.
10:10:24 Fix the signs, it's not worth the hassle.
10:10:26 Just like when somebody mistakes six inches for six feet but
10:10:30 first takes great pains to explain six inches.
10:10:35 It's foolish to carry on that way.
10:10:37 And we have heard that from this podium before, too.
10:10:40 Fix the signs.
10:10:41 In reference to item number 2, economic opportunity, because
10:10:47 council will have on its agenda again soon an item dealing
10:10:51 with keeping poultry inside the city limits of Tampa in a
10:10:55 manner much more extensively than allows for that practice
10:10:59 now, we wanted to start floating the notion that economic
10:11:03 development and economic opportunity, particularly if your
10:11:07 ordinance pursuant to Councilman Cohen's suggestion, is
10:11:10 going to require --
10:11:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: We need to stay on topic here.
10:11:14 >> I'm on economic opportunity development.
10:11:15 >>FRANK REDDICK: We don't want to get into where you are
10:11:20 We don't want to talk about that.
10:11:22 >> Don't want to talk about what, sir?
10:11:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Chickens.
10:11:25 You lose your minutes.
10:11:26 >> If you allow me to continue I will keep my remarks to the
10:11:32 clean zone.
10:11:33 >>FRANK REDDICK: The clean zone is not on there.
10:11:35 >> A clean subject matter, of course, in reference to that.
10:11:39 You have an opportunity with the economic -- an economic
10:11:43 opportunity of all things relative to chicken cooping to
10:11:46 create jobs for people who would make the chicken coops.
10:11:53 If just 5 percent of the homes, residences that might be
10:11:58 permit to have had them, have a decent chicken coop,
10:12:02 manufactured by somebody who now perhaps does not have a
10:12:05 job, it would represent economic opportunity and perhaps not
10:12:11 damage the delicate ears of the seven sleeping sombreros on
10:12:16 this council.
10:12:17 Thank you.
10:12:17 Fanned I am offended you, Mr. Reddick, a thousand pardons.
10:12:21 >>FRANK REDDICK: A thousand chickens.
10:12:27 >> Good morning, council.
10:12:30 My name is Charles Bass.
10:12:31 I'm here also in reference to the chicken coops.
10:12:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: To who?
10:12:41 >> Chicken coops, allowing chickens to be kept in the City
10:12:44 of Tampa .
10:12:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: That's not an agenda item.
10:12:46 You only can speak to items on the agenda.
10:12:48 >> Okay.
10:12:50 And that would be an economic opportunity.
10:12:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: Well, economic opportunity has nothing to
10:12:56 do with chicken coops.
10:13:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Because it goes CRA staff activities.
10:13:02 You can speak on that.
10:13:03 >> I can talk about what?
10:13:06 >>FRANK REDDICK: It's talking about items on the agenda
10:13:07 pertaining to CRA.
10:13:10 Chicken coops is not on the agenda with CRA today.
10:13:14 You can come back to regular council next week when we talk
10:13:17 about chickens.
10:13:18 But today it's not on the agenda.
10:13:20 >> So I can't mention the economic --
10:13:24 >>FRANK REDDICK: Not related to chickens.
10:13:26 >>MARY MULHERN: We heard some other comments already that
10:13:37 weren't on agenda items, but if it relates to the community
10:13:40 redevelopment area, at least at the end of our agenda, do we
10:13:45 normally do that during our CRA meetings?
10:13:49 We heard about parking which wasn't on the agenda.
10:13:51 >>FRANK REDDICK: Go ahead, sir.
10:13:56 >> I can continue?
10:13:58 All right.
10:13:58 Thank you.
10:14:01 Allowing chickens to be kept in the city.
10:14:04 As long as chickens are kept in a nice clean cope with the
10:14:09 health of the chickens being observed, this will be to
10:14:14 create jobs, in a sense, and nothing to do with these people
10:14:24 would have something to do.
10:14:27 Thank you very much.
10:14:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
10:14:33 >> Good morning.
10:14:41 My name is Mary Alvarez, 4603 Wishart Boulevard, Tampa,
10:14:47 Florida 33603.
10:14:49 Kind of funny to on this side of the podium.
10:14:52 But so be it.
10:14:54 I'm here to support the changing of the sign. Plain and
10:15:03 simple its misspelled.
10:15:06 I think that should be changed.
10:15:12 I am not an Ybor City native.
10:15:15 I lived in West Tampa all my life but I have kind of adopted
10:15:17 Ybor City.
10:15:20 My moniker for the e-mail is Mrs. Ybor, so I kind of feel
10:15:24 that I have a little bit of -- that I can talk about Ybor
10:15:33 I love Ybor City.
10:15:34 I have been doing a lot of things for Ybor City.
10:15:37 But I had a conversation with Frank many years ago about
10:15:41 this, I believe in 1996-97 when he was talking about it.
10:15:46 And I questioned him about the spelling of the la and he was
10:15:54 very adamant that that was a correct spelling.
10:15:57 Well, I knew when I was growing up, and my mom was taking me
10:16:01 to Ybor City, it was always la Setima, not la Septima.
10:16:07 So I am respectfully asking you all to go ahead and rescind
10:16:11 the resolution that was signed on April 9th, 1998, by
10:16:17 Mayor Dick Greco, and do the right thing.
10:16:21 That's what we want.
10:16:22 I think we have got a lot of support.
10:16:24 I commend Fran for doing her job, and she's tenacious, as
10:16:31 you all know, but she's right.
10:16:33 And when she's right, I really believe in her and I support
10:16:38 So do the right thing, council.
10:16:40 Let's change the spelling.
10:16:41 Thank you.
10:16:41 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
10:16:43 Good to see you: Next.
10:16:45 >>> My name is Kenneth Garcia, I was born in Ybor City, and
10:16:51 currently live at 2553 east 11th Avenue.
10:16:56 My grandparents emigrated from Spain in 1908, and 1909, one
10:17:06 settling in West Tampa, one in Ybor City. My father wags a
10:17:09 merchant on 7th Avenue.
10:17:11 He was general manager of the Fernandez and Garcia store
10:17:17 which is the largest department store in Ybor City on
10:17:19 7th Avenue and 15th street.
10:17:21 There was a lot of talk in the house about the store, about
10:17:26 Ybor City, and the references were always to la Septima or
10:17:36 to Broadway, never la Setima.
10:17:40 Jose Iglesia was a prominent author born and raised in Ybor
10:17:50 City and moved away to New York at middle age.
10:17:55 He wrote 15 books.
10:17:57 He also wrote for the New York Times, and contributed
10:18:02 stories to New Yorker magazine and Esquire.
10:18:07 Last night I picked up one of my very prized positions
10:18:11 possessions because it's a book that belonged to my father,
10:18:13 that Jose gave him, "Awake in Ybor City" which he wrote in
10:18:18 the early '70s.
10:18:19 And in the inscription, he wrote to victor Garcia, mayor of
10:18:26 la Septima.
10:18:34 I skimmed the book and hadn't read it in a long time and
10:18:35 found a reference to la Septima with a P.
10:18:40 I also have a copy of the script to the Pulitzer prize
10:18:45 Broadway play, which is Ybor the locale and could find one
10:18:50 reference to la Septima again with a P.
10:18:55 My suggestion is if City Council wishes to keep la Septima
10:19:05 without the P, I heard a rumor there was a proposal to
10:19:09 provide sign markers that explain the colloquialism, but I
10:19:17 might suggest putting parenthesis (sic) after it which
10:19:24 editors always do in something they quote that's misspelled
10:19:28 or grammatically incorrect.
10:19:30 These about it.
10:19:31 And thank you.
10:19:31 >> Thank you.
10:19:35 >> Mr. Chairman and other members of the Community
10:19:43 Redevelopment Agency, I'm Al Davis, a community policy
10:19:54 advocate, and I'm from East Tampa.
10:20:00 Mr. Chairman, I have a communication in the style of a
10:20:06 petition that I sent to you all earlier, and I would like to
10:20:10 present this one for the record.
10:20:36 And I ask that you receive it for file and for subsequent
10:20:41 The petition, Mr. Chairman, is to ask that the auditor of
10:20:59 the City of Tampa to take a look at East Tampa CRA.
10:21:07 That is the area.
10:21:10 I won't belabor the time.
10:21:15 I think the petition kind of speaks for itself.
10:21:17 And I hope you will give it just consideration.
10:21:21 Thank you very much.
10:21:23 And best wishes to you all.
10:21:24 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you, sir.
10:21:27 >> Good morning.
10:21:31 My name is Joe Chillura, I'm an architect.
10:21:34 And our family has had businesses in Ybor City for over 50
10:21:38 My dad was a builder, they owned Fifth Avenue builders
10:21:44 supply and also Gulf mill works.
10:21:46 I'm a stockholder in U.S. Ameribank, and we made a
10:21:54 contribution at the old Columbia bank.
10:21:56 So our interest in Ybor City has been long and very sincere,
10:22:01 and the only thing I would like to say is, how do you spell
10:22:10 Change the sign to make it correct, because I think
10:22:12 everything Fran said is correct, and it's not a major
10:22:19 It certainly would be in the community and Ybor City's
10:22:21 historic interest to have the correct spelling.
10:22:23 Thank you for your time.
10:22:24 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you very much.
10:22:29 Mr. Pardo?
10:22:32 I want to ask you one question.
10:22:33 And then throw the conversation -- when you are finished to
10:22:39 everyone, feedback on what direction we want to go.
10:22:42 Do you have a cost associated with the T signs replacement?
10:22:48 >>VINCE PARDO: In the staff report that was submit towed,
10:22:51 there were some quotes that were given.
10:22:53 And what I did was attach the 2009 staff report that
10:22:57 provided to council and attached to that were some price
10:23:00 quotes for certain options and modification of the signs.
10:23:05 And more recently, the public works department has submitted
10:23:09 another cost estimate, immediately behind the staff report.
10:23:16 We have an e-mail from Mr. Carter, and as far as changing
10:23:20 out the signs at a cost of $171.507 per sign.
10:23:30 That would be the cost of actually change the name so it
10:23:35 would be on there.
10:23:35 >>FRANK REDDICK: How many signs are on there?
10:23:39 >> As of this morning, we had one felled by a car.
10:23:41 As of this morning there are ten standing signs that carry
10:23:44 this particular name.
10:23:45 Anyone that is not standing, there are some blanks out there
10:23:49 now, that we will be replacing, so that replacement cost
10:23:53 would have workshop meeting happen anyway.
10:23:56 So ten signs would be modified.
10:24:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
10:24:01 Mr. Chairman, I sat here and listened to all that came up
10:24:07 and made some wonderful points.
10:24:09 And in essence I was recommend in addition about my whole
10:24:13 life, how we got, where are we, where do we come from, how
10:24:19 do we evolve to where we are?
10:24:21 It's because of those immigrants who came more than likely
10:24:25 will never happen in the whole world.
10:24:28 It happened to happened in a place called Ybor City because
10:24:31 of people like MARCELLA mer said a, the Nunez family, and
10:24:39 his father and uncle worked at the Columbia, and then his
10:24:42 uncle oh worked at cafe PEPE.
10:24:47 It happened because we had our own language.
10:24:49 It was never written, it was never explained, it was never
10:24:52 even thought of being a language.
10:24:55 Most of my friends, I never knew their names, although I
10:24:58 grew up with them.
10:25:09 (Speaking Spanish)
10:25:10 What in the world did I say?
10:25:11 That is in no book. I don't care if it's from Spain, Italy,
10:25:16 down Chile.
10:25:17 It's unexplainable what happened there.
10:25:21 For instance, the Ford was never a Ford.
10:25:22 It was a papingo. The Chevrolet was never a Chevrolet.
10:25:28 It was a cheviloco. The curb was never a curb.
10:25:31 (Speaking Spanish)
10:25:34 These are the things that I remember growing up.
10:25:40 And a tear went Mr. Nunez's eyes.
10:25:49 I understand why. Because he was talking from the heart and
10:25:49 how he was brought it in and saw something that will never
10:25:54 be seen again in my estimation.
10:25:57 It is a group of people that wanted to come here and do
10:25:59 something better, not for themselves but for their families.
10:26:03 And to have them have a better opportunity.
10:26:05 And that's what brought all of this together.
10:26:08 What happened to the Barcelona restaurant?
10:26:14 What happened to the Cuba cafe?
10:26:17 What happened to QUEBLOS whereof a mayor named Nuccio would
10:26:25 hold court there at 5:30 and people would get up to see the
10:26:29 mayor at 5:30.
10:26:30 They would walk.
10:26:31 There was no money for transportation.
10:26:34 They had a streetcar system through the whole city second to
10:26:37 none in the world.
10:26:40 All these places meant something to a lot of us.
10:26:44 They are not there now due to time changes, and different
10:26:47 things that have happened.
10:26:50 It leads me to believe in my own mind that La Septima and La
10:26:57 Setima -- and it's hard to understand when you say Septima
10:26:59 and Setima.
10:27:01 It really means 7.
10:27:03 And if you ask anybody in Ybor City -- not many of us are
10:27:06 still around my age -- they would tell you that it means
10:27:15 Columbus Drive used to be Michigan Avenue.
10:27:18 There was only one problem.
10:27:19 They couldn't say Michigan.
10:27:21 So they named it la Michiga.
10:27:26 So we had a system of communication that was second to none.
10:27:31 My house number, telephone number was 44-4064.
10:27:36 I memorized everything about Ybor City.
10:27:38 Fernandez and Garcia was one of the largest department
10:27:41 stores in the City of Tampa at that time.
10:27:45 The Floridan Hotel was the tallest building in the City of
10:27:53 Things have come around.
10:27:57 A lot of people say, people would say, is this guy crazy?
10:27:59 Some of you know what la arga was.
10:28:04 It's Channelside now, where the rats were bigger than the
10:28:09 These are things that you have to live here, be born here to
10:28:12 understand where you come from, and, you know, I see all
10:28:17 these things, and you know Nick Nuccio spoke three
10:28:23 languages: English, Spanish, and Spanglish, whatever it
10:28:29 It was more likely one of the greatest mayors.
10:28:35 And it's incumbent to us to understand right or wrong, I
10:28:39 don't know who is right and I don't know hop is wrong, but
10:28:43 it's sog just something that takes an enormous amount of
10:28:48 understanding, why is it that way?
10:28:52 No one will ever know why.
10:28:54 Ybor City is so unique and so special, and so different.
10:28:58 And if you look at the people who come from there that have
10:29:02 become great doctors, scientists, lawyers, engineers,
10:29:07 without their parents ever having an education in some
10:29:10 degrees, to some aspect, it's just an amazing thing the
10:29:15 amount of talent in sports that come out of the housing
10:29:19 projects and areas where the parents couldn't speak any
10:29:24 language, because they had a second or third-grade
10:29:28 And that was my family and your family, in most part.
10:29:32 Not all of us.
10:29:33 Don't get me wrong when I say that.
10:29:35 But I look at this.
10:29:37 And it's not the cost.
10:29:38 We paid $50 a brick to do something.
10:29:42 Put your name on a brick.
10:29:53 I can't support the changing of a sign that makes Ybor City
10:29:56 even more unique, more mystique, more intriguing as the time
10:30:03 goes, because those characters that I grew up with are no
10:30:06 longer there.
10:30:07 When you talk about the Columbia and the families of Baluha.
10:30:14 I will never for get one guy, and I asked the fellow who
10:30:18 introduced me, I said you never told me his name.
10:30:21 He said I don't know his name but we call him quad row PELO,
10:30:27 and translated that means four hairs.
10:30:29 He had one hair here, two, three and four.
10:30:32 And this was his name.
10:30:33 I worked with all the fellows in the Columbia in the 50s.
10:30:37 I didn't know their names.
10:30:38 I knew them by a nickname.
10:30:40 And that's how they would respond.
10:30:44 In the kitchen, all those individuals.
10:30:48 They would work 60 to 70 hours a week.
10:30:51 And you think now working 40 is tough?
10:30:54 Try living how they lived and what they had to do to make
10:30:57 your life and their live better and the sacrifices they made
10:31:00 and what they would do today in this issue you are.
10:31:04 Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
10:31:05 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mr. Suarez.
10:31:07 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
10:31:09 Thank you, Mr. Miranda.
10:31:10 Because one of the things that we know about the City of
10:31:12 Tampa is that chair Miranda is the only person on this
10:31:18 council that was born and raised in Ybor City, and it's
10:31:22 interesting about the history of Tampa.
10:31:24 We have so many different things.
10:31:27 I was laughing probably louder than anyone on the council
10:31:29 when he was mentioning all the names and people that we
10:31:32 know, our father's best man in his wedding was Manga Mocha.
10:31:41 And we still call him that.
10:31:43 There are lots of things that our colloquialisms and unique
10:31:47 parts of Tampa that are not going to go away.
10:31:49 Not as long as we have folks like Charlie Miranda, like Mary
10:31:54 Alvarez and Joe Chillura and some of the other people here.
10:31:57 I'm very proud to know we had three of our former council
10:32:01 people come here today to talk, and very happy with the
10:32:03 turnout that we had from the people that want to change the
10:32:08 To paraphrase Shakespeare, you know, a street by any other
10:32:12 name is still a street.
10:32:14 But it means more than that.
10:32:15 And I think that the point made by all the proponents of
10:32:19 this particular change are very clear that the Spanish
10:32:24 language is something that there is a line drawn between
10:32:28 what is correct and what is not correct.
10:32:31 Ms. Capin, who had to leave early, made a very good point
10:32:34 that all Spanish is accepted by the Royal Academy of Spanish
10:32:38 in Spain.
10:32:40 But we pronounce words differently than people in Spain, as
10:32:43 do people in Puerto Rico and people in Mexico and that the
10:32:48 amalagram of all these different ascents and places still
10:32:55 come up to something other than what it was meant to be,
10:32:58 the Castillion in Spanish is not the same here as it is in
10:33:06 other parts of the world.
10:33:06 Sicilian is the only Italian language that is spoke here --
10:33:09 something a lot of people don't know -- that it's the only
10:33:09 place in the world that true Sicilian is spoken.
10:33:13 I learned this from a linguist at the University of Tampa.
10:33:16 I was shocked when I heard that because my grandmother, who
10:33:19 was Sicilian and my mother, they spoke a language that was
10:33:23 pure and not a bastardization, or at least I thought was,
10:33:29 until I heard from this linguist.
10:33:30 So there's a lot of things that we don't know about what has
10:33:33 transpired in the history of Tampa in terms of our language.
10:33:36 None of us are linguists here.
10:33:39 None of us are going to be able to argue the finer points of
10:33:43 Septima---or Setima.
10:33:57 I think it is not an unreasonable request.
10:33:59 I used to like the colloquialism of Setima, not because I
10:34:07 knew it was right because I knew it was something born out
10:34:09 of Ybor City, something unique and something that was
10:34:11 different than other cities.
10:34:12 And I still feel that way.
10:34:14 And I wish that there is -- and maybe we can talk about this
10:34:17 at some other date -- a way to recognize the fact that the
10:34:21 languages that made up this melting pot in Ybor City can be
10:34:27 celebrated, that those things that Mr. Miranda talked about
10:34:33 is what makes Tampa unique.
10:34:36 It's not just one part of it.
10:34:38 It is all of it.
10:34:39 When we talked earlier about the Cuban sandwich -- and you
10:34:44 are right, Mr. Nunez, it is sandwich and not sangwich.
10:34:52 I found out early in my college life that it is not theater
10:34:59 but theater.
10:34:59 So there are lofts things we say and do why we don't realize
10:35:03 why we say and do them.
10:35:04 I am going support changing the name.
10:35:06 I think that the hardest part for us is finding those
10:35:10 dollars either within our CRA budget or somewhere else to
10:35:13 try to change these.
10:35:14 I know that with some of the changes that we are going to
10:35:18 do, I think it's important.
10:35:20 History is written by the winners of wars.
10:35:24 This is not a war.
10:35:26 We want a Cuban sandwich war but we won't go there.
10:35:30 And this is much more, I think, civil than a war.
10:35:35 It's about where we want to go as a city in the future.
10:35:38 But I don't think that this has anything to do with
10:35:43 destroying our past.
10:35:44 And I think that all of us recognize that.
10:35:46 And those people who are third, fourth and fifth generations
10:35:51 like myself understand that the history is still going to be
10:35:54 The history lives in our minds and in our hearts, in the way
10:35:57 thatch we look at our parents and our grandparents and our
10:36:00 children, and that won't change.
10:36:02 And that hopefully will never change.
10:36:05 Thank you, chair, nor time.
10:36:06 >>MARY MULHERN: I voted on this a few years ago, in support
10:36:14 of change to the what I believe is the common and correct
10:36:16 spelling in Spanish.
10:36:20 From my 8th grade Spanish that I had, I had one semester
10:36:24 of Spanish in my life, which I regret of a everything moved
10:36:30 I think that pronunciation is individual and different and
10:36:37 colloquialisms, and so I think continue to say Septima and
10:36:46 that's fine.
10:36:47 Mr. Miranda, if you have a Tampa native show, you should be
10:36:51 a future guest and talk about that.
10:36:54 But I think it doesn't present the problem which all of the
10:37:00 people who came and spoke today made.
10:37:02 You can't really -- a street sign is a street sign so you
10:37:10 can't reference it and say why you are presenting something
10:37:14 which looks like a misspelling and which to me is a
10:37:19 I support changing it.
10:37:20 And while we are at it hopefully it won't cost any more to
10:37:23 add the accent to the E which appears to be the correct
10:37:28 spelling, if we are going to look it up and make sure
10:37:32 that -- once we change it, then we are spelling it
10:37:36 >>HARRY COHEN: I actually completely concur with
10:37:44 Councilwoman Mulhern.
10:37:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: Okay.
10:37:55 Bob, let me ask you a question.
10:37:59 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Yes, sir.
10:38:03 I'm a little surprised with the way that Mr. Suarez is very
10:38:06 impressed by my Spanish accent.
10:38:09 He has not asked my opinion.
10:38:10 Mr. Miranda, when I speak to him in Spanish, basically
10:38:13 ignores me until I go a wait a minute but Mr. Suarez is more
10:38:15 than happy to correct me and humiliate me.
10:38:18 >>FRANK REDDICK: Well --
10:38:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You say paella.
10:38:26 >> Where would the funds come from here?
10:38:29 >> I'm assuming from the Ybor City CRA.
10:38:31 >>FRANK REDDICK: And do we have a total bottom line dollar
10:38:37 >>BOB McDONAUGH: From what has been said it sounded like
10:38:41 around $2,000.
10:38:42 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mr. Pardo, ising that that something the
10:38:48 CRA has or can achieve if that's case?
10:38:52 >>VINCE PARDO: We have a signage line item.
10:38:54 I have a whole punch list for transportation department and
10:38:57 public works as far as signs.
10:39:02 The saltwater produce, a truck hit it and broke it so we are
10:39:06 doing a lost repairs to signs that have been damaged in some
10:39:13 One comment.
10:39:20 It was pretty lengthy.
10:39:22 One of the recommendations, you heard the same kind of
10:39:26 discussions at that point plus some other views, and votes
10:39:31 are as good as who is at the table, just like elections.
10:39:37 At that time the chamber did support the last proposal as
10:39:40 the museum society did.
10:39:41 As you are aware in the staff report, I didn't write
10:39:43 anything new.
10:39:45 I Jay Feaster gave you the 2009 staff report which had all
10:39:48 the opinions and every e-mail that I had in my office.
10:39:51 I'm sure there's more.
10:39:52 This is what we had on record in our office.
10:39:55 But one thing that I think is important to go forward, and
10:40:00 your vote is fine, an Ybor City native from Ballast Point,
10:40:05 I'm here as city staff person, and my report is as objective
10:40:08 as I can make that report.
10:40:09 I want to make that clear.
10:40:10 But I just want you to know at no time was there any
10:40:13 discussion to create bilingual signs in Tampa or Ybor City.
10:40:19 It was only a proposal of how the community referred to
10:40:24 7th Avenue.
10:40:25 There are no reference of signs for second Avenue, third
10:40:29 Avenue, fourth Avenue, anything up to Columbus drive for
10:40:32 doing that.
10:40:32 It was strictly a reference of a place, okay, not a
10:40:37 bilingual sign as far as I would deal with that kind of
10:40:40 One of the proposals you saw in 2009, those options were
10:40:44 just remove it.
10:40:46 The reference was a place, and how the majority, who was at
10:40:50 the table at the time, the 2009 with the YCDC.
10:40:54 So there is an option of actually replace it with nothing
10:40:57 other than 7th Avenue.
10:40:59 So we will carry on with.
10:41:03 This money to me is a negligible issue.
10:41:08 We are preparing signs.
10:41:09 So if we are going to do it, now is the time to do it as a
10:41:12 contract is going forward.
10:41:13 >>FRANK REDDICK: Do we have a motion?
10:41:15 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Mr. Chair, I'll motion that we go with
10:41:18 option 2, that it was provided in Mr. Pardo's staff report,
10:41:24 that is to remove la Setima from the lower portion of the
10:41:31 street Ft. Myers and a blank containing the same line design
10:41:35 that appears on the other signs with the correct spelling.
10:41:39 In la Septima on the P and the accent on the E to make it
10:41:48 correct in spelling.
10:41:48 And having a mixed marriage, my mother is Neapolitan, my
10:41:57 father is Sicilian and the language was subjective in my
10:42:02 So I would motion that we replace those blade signs with the
10:42:09 correct spelling for the amount indicated in the report.
10:42:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I'll second.
10:42:19 >>VINCE PARDO: Option 2 of the 2009 report is not to
10:42:26 It is to insert a blank.
10:42:32 The report which is very recent as far as the cost of doing
10:42:35 I want to make sure we are clear.
10:42:36 The blank would not appear anywhere.
10:42:38 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Right.
10:42:40 We are replacing what's there now, in some cases, it's
10:42:44 mission, so there is a blank there.
10:42:46 So it's to replace all the signs, those that are blank and
10:42:50 those that are there with la Septima.
10:43:02 >> On one side it reads this way.
10:43:04 On the other side it's here so we don't have a single blade
10:43:07 and double blade.
10:43:08 So the correction of the upper right, with the insertion of
10:43:24 >> Right.
10:43:24 With the accent.
10:43:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Further discussion on the motion?
10:43:28 All in favor?
10:43:32 The motion passes 5 to 1.
10:43:37 [ Applause ]
10:43:45 Anything else, Mr. Pardo?
10:43:47 >>BOB McDONAUGH: That's the conclusion. Report but I'm
10:43:50 assuming this action would have to go to City Council for a
10:43:53 change in the ordinance.
10:43:53 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
10:43:55 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Thank you.
10:43:57 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
10:44:00 Any other business?
10:44:02 Mr. Suarez?
10:44:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: No new business.
10:44:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: None, sir.
10:44:06 >>MARY MULHERN: No.
10:44:08 >>HARRY COHEN: No.
10:44:10 >>LISA MONTELIONE: No, sir.
10:44:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: I just want to introduce and announce to
10:44:16 everybody that the intern that I had my office working with
10:44:21 me, she graduated from the University of South Florida this
10:44:23 past few days ago, and she is here, and Karen, would you
10:44:29 stand and come and say a word or two before we adjourn?
10:44:37 Sarah Lambert, University of South Florida intern just
10:44:40 graduated this last Tuesday or Wednesday.
10:44:43 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I think it was last Thursday.
10:44:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: So Sarah, congratulations and we thank you
10:44:54 for the time that you assisted us down here at City Hall.
10:44:59 And you know you have got a bright future.
10:45:01 Would you like to say a word or two?
10:45:03 >> Thank you very much for the opportunity to do the
10:45:06 I know that all of us really enjoyed it especially
10:45:09 considering many of us were not actually political science
10:45:12 I think we also learned a lot about the legislative process
10:45:15 during our time here.
10:45:17 Thank you.
10:45:17 >>FRANK REDDICK: And we finally got you on TV.
10:45:24 Receive and file.
10:45:25 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Motion to receive and file.
10:45:27 >> Second.
10:45:28 >>FRANK REDDICK: All those in favor?
10:45:30 We stand adjourned for five minutes.
10:45:37 >>> (CRA adjourned)
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