TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
Thursday, November 1, 2012
9:00 a.m. session
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09:05:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: City Council is called to order.
09:05:59 The chair yields to chairperson of this fair committee, Ms.
09:06:04 Mary Mulhern.
09:06:04 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
09:06:07 We are honored today to have Rabbi Marc Stack of
09:06:10 Congregation Rodeph Shalom for our morning invocation.
09:06:15 Please stand and remain standing for the invocation.
09:06:17 >> There are times when we are reminded that what takes
09:06:24 years, each decades to build, to could be destroyed in a
09:06:29 In what may be called the great asymmetry, one spectacular
09:06:34 act of destruction must be built by tens of thousands of
09:06:37 acts of hard work and acts of kindness.
09:06:41 It is at these times that we remember that we are all in the
09:06:44 same boat, that life may be vulnerable for one place today
09:06:49 and a different place tomorrow, and at those times, we help
09:06:52 each other rebuild by coming together as one.
09:06:58 At this time, we pray to the people of the northeast.
09:07:02 We remember those who lost loved ones, those who lost their
09:07:06 homes, those who lost their businesses.
09:07:08 We pray that their rebuilding will not be too arduous, and
09:07:13 at this time as we focus on the matters of our own city, we
09:07:17 pray for the generosity of spirit to share some of what we
09:07:21 have with those whose needs are now exceeded.
09:07:25 This is a time for us to come together.
09:07:27 We pray for the strength and the courage to do that.
09:07:31 [ Pledge of Allegiance ]
09:07:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Roll call.
09:08:00 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
09:08:02 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Present.
09:08:03 >>FRANK REDDICK: Here.
09:08:04 >>MARY MULHERN: Here.
09:08:05 >>HARRY COHEN: Here.
09:08:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Here.
09:08:11 We need a motion for adoption of the minutes of September 27
09:08:14 and October 18th.
09:08:16 I have a motion by Mr. Cohen.
09:08:17 I have a second by Mrs. Mulhern.
09:08:19 All in favor of that motion? Opposed nay?
09:08:22 The ayes have it unanimously.
09:08:26 At this time, we'll have a presentation by Ms. Capin.
09:08:37 >>YVONNE CAPIN: (off microphone) At this time, I would like
09:08:42 to have the animal services director to give a five-minute
09:08:48 presentation for the new vision of animal services.
09:08:51 Thank you for being here.
09:08:52 >> My name is Ian Hallett, the new director of Hillsborough
09:08:57 County animal services Hallett, which serves your residents.
09:09:05 I started in June of this year so I am pretty new but
09:09:09 obviously I was born and raised in Riverview, Florida, but I
09:09:12 have the experience of a baccalaureate program at
09:09:16 Hillsborough high school, and what I can say is coming into
09:09:19 the city and going to that program really changed the course
09:09:23 of my life.
09:09:23 I got a chance to see the big red band, for those of you
09:09:29 that know the tradition there, went on to Tampa Theatre and
09:09:32 Curtis Hixon park, was married at the Cuban club, was
09:09:36 introduced to a lot of other cultures, and as a result of
09:09:39 that moved to Central America, learned Spanish, and so
09:09:43 really sent my life on a whole new trajectory.
09:09:46 About the only time I haven't lived here is when I moved to
09:09:49 Austin to get my master of public affairs, and after that
09:09:54 education I went on to work with Austin animal services.
09:09:59 I don't have many years of experience, but I have an
09:10:02 experience in animal services that's very unique.
09:10:06 I was part of a great experiment in Austin about how many
09:10:09 animals could be saved from a shelter, and Austin is a city
09:10:14 of comparable size, 1.1 million people, and our shelter also
09:10:18 took in 20,000 animals.
09:10:20 And over the course of five years, we were able to go from
09:10:24 euthanizing half of the animals that came to us to
09:10:27 euthanizing only 10%, those that were very aggressive or
09:10:33 And so I have come back to Hillsborough County to bring some
09:10:37 of the lessons I have learned to my work here and to provide
09:10:41 better service to the residents of all of the county and the
09:10:46 city, as well as the animals that live here.
09:10:50 I'm very happy to have a partner in the Humane Society of
09:10:55 They save 1500 animals a year and greatly help us in our
09:11:00 In fact, this Saturday we are partnering together to offer
09:11:04 free rabies shots and registration with the county for free
09:11:08 this weekend to several hundred residents, and want to make
09:11:13 sure all the viewers know that in Riverview, on Riverview
09:11:16 drive, just east of highway 41, beginning at 9 a.m. and
09:11:21 going till noon or however long it takes to get the job
09:11:26 So I'm very excited to serve your residents.
09:11:32 One of the biggest changes and one of the reasons I'm very
09:11:34 happy to have this opportunity today is that beginning
09:11:36 today, we have begun new hours, which are 10 a.m. to 7 p.m.,
09:11:42 seven days a week.
09:11:43 You will never have any trouble remembering telling your
09:11:46 citizens when they can come look for lost pets, when they
09:11:49 can come adopt pets.
09:11:51 They are very lucky to have a fine shelter close by in the
09:11:55 Humane Society, both to your residents but also that take
09:11:58 animals from us, but I want to remind you that if you ever
09:12:02 lose an animal in Hillsborough County, or the City of Tampa,
09:12:05 they all come to Hillsborough County animal services.
09:12:09 So if you are looking for a lost pet, we are the place that
09:12:12 you come to, and when we have limited hours on the weekend
09:12:17 or be closed on Monday it can be very hard for to you find
09:12:20 your lost pet.
09:12:21 So now I am happy to announce that most people can, after
09:12:24 work, go to the facility to look for their lost pet, and
09:12:30 this is just the first of a series of changes we'll make to
09:12:34 better serve the animals and the residents of Hillsborough
09:12:36 County and City of Tampa.
09:12:37 So if there's anything I can ever help you with, please
09:12:39 don't hesitate to contact me.
09:12:43 I'm very excited to be here and very excited to come home
09:12:45 and serve all of the residents that I grew up with.
09:12:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have Mr. Suarez and Ms. Mulhern --
09:12:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you very much.
09:12:59 You need to answer questions now.
09:13:00 But they are very easy.
09:13:02 By the way, congratulations on being a congratulate graduate
09:13:09 I have two students that hopefully enter next year.
09:13:12 So welcome back home.
09:13:13 I think you mentioned that you said the rate in Austin when
09:13:18 you were there went from 50% euthanasia to 10%?
09:13:21 Is that correct?
09:13:22 >> Right.
09:13:23 >>MIKE SUAREZ: What did you do in the community to reduce
09:13:25 that rate so significantly?
09:13:27 Other than the fact we are not going to euthanize anymore.
09:13:30 There must have been some other programs that you instituted
09:13:32 to make sure that people weren't bringing in animals for
09:13:36 euthanization. Can you tell us exactly how did you that?
09:13:40 >> We are always working on spay and neuter initiatives to
09:13:44 lower the number of animals coming into the shelter.
09:13:46 But in terms of saving the ones that actually get into the
09:13:50 shelter system, there's probably two critical things.
09:13:54 One is marketing, and the other one is volunteerism.
09:13:57 And I believe there are enough homes for the animals that we
09:14:00 have at animal services, but not many people know where we
09:14:04 are at and not many people know our mission and not many
09:14:08 people know the plight of those animals saved and not many
09:14:13 knew our hours before because they were pretty complicated.
09:14:18 So you will see a lot more about animal services in the
09:14:22 We are going to make sure everybody knows where we are and
09:14:24 that they can get to us.
09:14:25 And the second thing that comes along with that is
09:14:29 And I was amazed at what volunteers could do.
09:14:33 They used to just walk dogs and brush cats and we learned
09:14:45 they could take blood and do off-site adoptions, but there's
09:14:49 no limit to what volunteers in the city can achieve.
09:14:52 >> How long did it take you to get from that 50% to 10%
09:14:56 >> From 50 to 10 was about five years.
09:14:59 And there was a major push in the last two to three years.
09:15:04 We went very quickly with resources from 75 to about 90 in a
09:15:14 short period of time.
09:15:15 There's a lot of groundwork before we can start making that
09:15:18 huge jump, but I know that we can do a lot better than what
09:15:21 we are doing now.
09:15:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: And what's the euthanasia rate now for the
09:15:27 >> The current euthanasia rate is 65% as of this past fiscal
09:15:32 One important thing to note is that it's about 55% for dogs
09:15:37 and currently 85% for cats.
09:15:42 Cats are an area that were suffering the most in.
09:15:45 So I would urge you all and anybody watching and anybody you
09:15:48 can tell, if you are looking for a cat, for $20 you can get
09:15:53 one spayed and neutered and all the vaccinations and it
09:15:56 costs you $20 just to register them for the year so there's
09:16:00 no reason to go anywhere else, or go to the Humane Society.
09:16:05 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you very much.
09:16:07 I appreciate it.
09:16:07 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
09:16:12 You answered some of my questions.
09:16:14 You are open 24/7 all the time?
09:16:18 >> Not quite 24/7.
09:16:23 10 a.m. to 7 p.m. seven days a week.
09:16:25 So it's very easy to remember.
09:16:27 If you ever get questions from your constituents from now
09:16:30 on, every day, very easy to remember.
09:16:33 >> So you are open an hour later now?
09:16:37 >> Open an hour later and also closed on Mondays.
09:16:40 We were open from 9:00 to 3:30 on Saturday, 11 to 3:30 on --
09:16:46 >> Very slowly, why don't you give us your address so that
09:16:54 people know where to go, and also the phone number so that
09:16:59 anybody watching --
09:17:02 >> We are at 440 north Falkenburg road, and I can't tell you
09:17:11 the phone number because I never had to call because I go
09:17:14 there every day for work.
09:17:15 >> It's Hillsborough County animal services?
09:17:17 >> Yes. You can find that on hillsboroughcounty.org under
09:17:21 animal services.
09:17:22 So go to the Hillsborough County Web site.
09:17:25 >> Yes.
09:17:26 And I will make a note to get that to you.
09:17:28 >> And the $20 for spay and neutering, that's if you adopt a
09:17:33 >> Yes.
09:17:33 >> Is that for dogs, too?
09:17:35 >> Dogs vary in their prices.
09:17:38 Some that are at risk of euthanasia are also $20.
09:17:42 And if they are puppies, small dogs, they can be 120 to 60,
09:17:49 kind of depending on age.
09:17:51 So we have some very variable rates there.
09:17:54 Basically they caught a break for some of our animals that
09:17:57 are harder to place.
09:17:58 They can range from 20 to $120.
09:18:02 >> Can people -- oh, I got the phone number.
09:18:06 At this time phone number for Hillsborough County animal
09:18:08 services is 813-744-5660.
09:18:15 If I rescue a pet, could I bring it in?
09:18:23 And if I wanted to adopt it, pay the $20, spay the cat?
09:18:29 >> What you would want to do is bring touts and let us know
09:18:32 that you were interested in adopting it, and fill out an
09:18:35 application, and that way if we get to the end and the owner
09:18:40 hasn't found it or doesn't get adopted we'll call you up and
09:18:44 let you know and we'll get it spay and neutered and
09:18:48 vaccinated and ready to go home with you.
09:18:49 >> And do you have a goal since that euthanasia rate is so
09:18:54 high, especially compared to where you came from, which you
09:18:57 did a fantastic job in reducing that, do you have a goal for
09:19:01 Hillsborough County for, say, the next year what number you
09:19:05 want to get to as far as adoptions versus euthanasia?
09:19:10 >> Yes.
09:19:11 One of the things I want to focus on is making the right
09:19:14 decision for each animal first, and seeing what number we
09:19:17 get to.
09:19:17 I think we can easily double the number that we are doing
09:19:22 So the question is up to that point what can Hillsborough
09:19:29 County and the City of Tampa do for those animals?
09:19:34 I came from a city that set a number and wanted to reach
09:19:37 that number.
09:19:41 But it incurred a level of risk and sometimes resource
09:19:48 commitment that I'm not sure Hillsborough County and the
09:19:50 City of Tampa would want to take on.
09:19:52 As you get past 70, the money it takes to save an animal and
09:19:59 the behavior issues you run into start increasing
09:20:04 So Austin was very interested in taking those risks and
09:20:13 working with animals that might have behavior problems.
09:20:15 >> Is it a funding question for you?
09:20:19 >> There will be some of that.
09:20:21 A lot of people are bringing free resources to the table in
09:20:25 terms of volunteering and marketing, and really my
09:20:27 commitment especially in this economic client is to squeeze
09:20:30 everything I can out of those resources first, and then I'll
09:20:34 be able to let you know what we need to do next to get even
09:20:45 But think we can do more with what we have now and that's my
09:20:48 first commitment.
09:20:50 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
09:20:53 Congratulations first.
09:20:54 And I just have a couple of questions for you.
09:20:58 I know starting a new position you always come in with some
09:21:05 So my first question to you will be, what would you say is
09:21:10 your short-term vision and what would you consider to be
09:21:14 your long-term vision?
09:21:19 >> My short-term vision is to make the public aware of our
09:21:22 existence of our mission of what we do and make sure that we
09:21:27 are accessible to them.
09:21:33 When I came here most of the people that I talked to, and I
09:21:35 saw them on the Hillsborough services, they say, life the
09:21:39 Humane Society, that's where I got my dog from.
09:21:41 And I would say, well, I'm actually at the animal -- where
09:21:47 is that?
09:21:47 And there are a number of people who do not know about us or
09:21:51 think that we are only animal control.
09:21:55 So the first thing I have to do is make sure everybody is
09:21:57 aware of who we are, what we do, where we are located, and
09:22:01 then make sure that we are accessible to them.
09:22:04 The long-term vision is to spay as many animals as possible,
09:22:10 with the resources that we have, and also to provide great
09:22:14 service to the public to make them feel very welcome in our
09:22:19 shelter and to help them in their times of need, whether
09:22:21 that be an animal control concern or searching for a lost
09:22:25 pet which can be very emotional for people.
09:22:28 >> And my last question is, in numbers, how many animals per
09:22:33 month would you say are euthanized?
09:22:37 >> That were euthanized?
09:22:39 It's approximately in fiscal year 12, it was 14 new.
09:22:45 We -- 14,000.
09:22:47 We receive about 63 every single day including Chris ma mass
09:22:52 and New Year's, which we take in animals all of those days.
09:22:56 So we are euthanizing, in the summer when we get large
09:23:00 groups of kittens and puppies, we can do honestly 60, 70 in
09:23:05 a day.
09:23:06 >> Do you all take in chickens, too?
09:23:10 >> Actually, the county agricultural unit works with
09:23:14 chickens a lot.
09:23:16 However, we have busted a lot of cockfighting rings, 200
09:23:21 chickens or more.
09:23:22 So we have a very active animal control unit, more active
09:23:27 than the city I came from.
09:23:29 There's a big commitment on the part of our agencies to also
09:23:33 serve the animals that are still out in the community.
09:23:35 So we have busted quite a few cockfighting rings.
09:23:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: They take roosters, not chickens.
09:23:47 Ms. Capin?
09:23:49 >>YVONNE CAPIN: You mentioned volunteers and resources.
09:23:52 And I wanted to know, how do the rescue groups assist the
09:23:56 county in lowering the euthanasia rate?
09:24:00 >> The rescue groups, as I mentioned the Humane Society
09:24:05 takes 1500.
09:24:06 I believe that accounts for around 40 or 50%.
09:24:09 So we have another 1500 going out the door and sometimes
09:24:12 one, two at a time.
09:24:14 Other groups that do 100 or 200.
09:24:16 So we have a large number, 50 or more rescue groups that are
09:24:20 each contributing a little bit to our cause.
09:24:24 And I know that as we continue to work towards this goal, I
09:24:29 believe they will be able to help us more.
09:24:31 >> So you are counting on them as a resource?
09:24:34 >> Absolutely.
09:24:35 It was essential to what we did in Austin, and we couldn't
09:24:38 do it without them.
09:24:41 Usually 10 to 15% of the animals that come in and that's a
09:24:46 big 10 to 15%.
09:24:47 And we have very limited ability to treat them in the
09:24:50 shelter because we keep having animals come in the shelter
09:24:53 so the critical role they play is taking out some of the
09:24:56 animals that need time to heal or need time to get training,
09:25:01 and that's not something we can do in the shelter so we rely
09:25:06 on rescue groups to help with us that and they take on some
09:25:10 very tough love cases.
09:25:12 >> Really?
09:25:13 The second question is, how do you contact them when you
09:25:15 have one of their specific breeds?
09:25:18 Let's say --
09:25:20 >> Previously, we had just one rescue coordinator who looked
09:25:24 at every animal coming in to funnel them to the right rescue
09:25:29 group including Humane Society.
09:25:30 And one of the first things I did was move a position, add a
09:25:34 second position to that, repurpose from another area, and I
09:25:40 used to have that function four days a week and now I have
09:25:42 that function seven days a week, and now the rescue, who
09:25:45 used to struggle to get to us after work, have access to a
09:25:48 rescue coordinator every single day of the week, and can get
09:25:52 here to help us out, because the quicker they can pull the
09:25:56 animal out the quicker I can get another animal to find a
09:25:59 And sometimes it's just a matter of a few more days before
09:26:01 that right person would have walked through the door.
09:26:03 >> And I'm just going to add since I'm on the advisory board
09:26:09 of the Humane Society of Tampa Bay, and you did share ways
09:26:13 on how you partner with them.
09:26:16 For instance, the shot clinic.
09:26:22 This you're I won't be able to volunteer.
09:26:24 Last year. Did I it was an amazing experience.
09:26:27 I think it was 700 animals came through and were vaccinated.
09:26:34 And thank you for that.
09:26:34 >> We are happy to help, and we couldn't pull it off without
09:26:41 the Humane Society playing a support role in bringing
09:26:44 volunteers to an event that they were already holding.
09:26:47 So we want to provide whatever resources we can.
09:26:52 This will be my first one.
09:26:56 We did it in Austin but not on this scale.
09:26:58 So this will be my first time.
09:27:00 >> They do quite a good job at coordinating and they know
09:27:10 how much time it's going to take.
09:27:12 It works really, really well.
09:27:14 They are very experienced at it and I was very impressed
09:27:17 with the amount of people that their pets were helped.
09:27:19 >> That's over 100 vaccinations an hour.
09:27:22 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
09:27:28 And thank you for being here.
09:27:29 I'm sorry I missed the first few minutes.
09:27:36 But I don't know that you covered a subject that's a
09:27:41 favorite of mine, a breed favorite of mine, and that's the
09:27:44 pit bulls.
09:27:45 You mentioned that you have a lot of attention paid to
09:27:53 fighting, cockfighting.
09:28:00 At one time we had a large part of the community engaged in
09:28:02 cock fighting.
09:28:03 Are you seeing the numbers and what's the steps being taken
09:28:07 to find those groups and stop them?
09:28:11 >> We do have significant amounts of that going on here.
09:28:16 And what I'm happy to say in Austin and Texas in general,
09:28:19 you have to catch them in the actual act.
09:28:21 You can have all the paraphernalia, everything, the ring set
09:28:25 up, and if you can't be there when the actual site occurs,
09:28:29 we can't prosecute, and -- in Hillsborough County, if we
09:28:34 have that evidence we can prosecute, we do measurement of
09:28:38 scars, how many scars, and that's enough to prove that you
09:28:41 have been fighting your animals, so we are able to take a
09:28:44 lot of action.
09:28:45 We have about eight cruelty investigators out in the field
09:28:49 actively taking calls.
09:28:51 Another thing we do is community sweeps in conjunction with
09:28:54 Hillsborough County sheriff's office and also City of Tampa,
09:28:57 where we go through, and while they are looking for
09:29:03 outstanding warrants, we are right behind them looking for
09:29:06 the animals because usually they go hand in hand.
09:29:09 I don't think we have ever come across a dogfighting ring
09:29:11 that was free of drugs and weapons.
09:29:14 So where you find those, you also find other crimes.
09:29:18 So we work closely with law enforcement.
09:29:22 >> Is there a particular area in the county where it's more
09:29:25 prevalent than others?
09:29:27 >> Actually, within -- a lot of it is within the City of
09:29:32 Tampa and some of the outlying areas like Ruskin.
09:29:40 Again only four months in, a lot of what I have seen has
09:29:43 been within the City of Tampa.
09:29:44 >> Is it something that we can do, that the city can do, to
09:29:49 help you find and stop those groups?
09:29:56 >> Most of our leads come from the public.
09:29:58 So getting them -- letting the public know that they need to
09:30:02 get those leads to us by way of our telephone number allows
09:30:06 us to pursue those leads.
09:30:09 And often cases go out to those places to initiate and
09:30:17 >> And the phone number again?
09:30:18 >> 744-1530.
09:30:24 >> So if anyone is within the City of Tampa suspects that
09:30:30 there is a dogfighting ring, if you see an animal that has
09:30:38 no ears, clipped ears, scars, please call animal services.
09:30:43 >> And it's really the scars that we are looking for.
09:30:47 Just cropping the ears has become a style or fashion with
09:30:53 those dogs.
09:30:54 So you will see a lot of dogs and good people walking around
09:30:57 with the very short cropped ears and the big thick scholar
09:31:01 and a lot of those guys are just babies that would run and
09:31:04 lick to you death.
09:31:04 >> That's how mine is.
09:31:06 >> So what we would actually be looking for is the dogs that
09:31:13 have severe scarring.
09:31:14 They are often tethered, which because they can't get along
09:31:19 together, and tethering is now not legal, so that's another
09:31:24 sign that the public can report.
09:31:28 And then the other activity that goes along with this, the
09:31:34 abandoning in abandoned houses, those are the kinds of
09:31:39 things we are looking for.
09:31:40 >> And again, just because there is a prevalence within the
09:31:46 city limits of the City of Tampa, I know that our code
09:31:50 enforcement officers are very aware, and they do report to
09:31:55 animal services houses that they find with tethered dogs,
09:32:02 and he's a big animal lover and he makes sure that cases
09:32:08 that he suspects are reported.
09:32:10 So thank you so much for being here.
09:32:12 I appreciate your time.
09:32:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Ms. Capin.
09:32:17 >>YVONNE CAPIN: (off microphone) it's a perfect time to
09:32:23 repeat the phone number.
09:32:24 It was repeated.
09:32:26 But people know where to call.
09:32:29 And thank you.
09:32:33 Also your short-term goals and the marketing seem to be
09:32:37 going right along.
09:32:38 We are looking at our ordinance on rescue groups.
09:32:43 And specifically.
09:32:45 And I know that they are a resource, and volunteers for your
09:32:51 So I thank you for being here.
09:32:55 If there are no more questions, thank you.
09:32:59 >> Thank you very much for having me.
09:33:01 Pleasure to meet you.
09:33:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much, IAN.
09:33:05 We appreciate it.
09:33:06 We go now to approval of the agenda and the addendum.
09:33:09 Any additions or additions?
09:33:14 >>THE CLERK: We received late last night a memo from legal
09:33:18 requesting the agreement attached to item 17 be substituted.
09:33:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I can hardly hear you, I'm sorry.
09:33:31 >>THE CLERK: I have one piece to bring up at the end of the
09:33:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Oh, 17, you have a substitution?
09:33:37 Is that it?
09:33:37 And new business you are going to bring up later?
09:33:41 >>THE CLERK: Right.
09:33:42 >>FRANK REDDICK: Move to approve.
09:33:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mr. Reddick, I have a second by
09:33:47 Mr. Suarez.
09:33:48 All in favor of that motion say aye. Opposed nay.
09:33:50 The ayes have it unanimously.
09:33:53 We go now to the public portion of the agenda.
09:33:55 Anyone in the public that cares to speak on items that are
09:33:58 on the agenda first, and then time left for those items not
09:34:04 on the agenda.
09:34:05 Anyone care to speak to items on the agenda, please come
09:34:11 Other than those that are public hearings.
09:34:25 What number?
09:34:27 That's a public hearing, sir.
09:34:28 You have to wait till we open those hearings and speak on
09:34:31 I'm sorry.
09:34:31 Anyone else care to speak on items on the agenda that are
09:34:34 not public hearings?
09:34:37 Come forward.
09:34:38 Yes, sir.
09:34:38 >> I'm Ed Tillou from north Tampa.
09:34:44 I'm somewhere in between because there is one item on the
09:34:47 agenda that reminds me of something I meant to speak about
09:34:50 for a long time.
09:34:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Give me the item number.
09:34:53 >> That's item 28.
09:34:55 And it always leaps out because of the word sidewalk
09:34:59 In the past two months, a bad situation developed in north
09:35:04 You get off the bus and all of a sudden a bicycle going
09:35:07 about 30-odd miles an hour, which they can do, and almost
09:35:14 hit you.
09:35:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: The item that you are speaking about is
09:35:17 health services which is a TBA of Tampa Bay general that we
09:35:22 are talking about. You have to specifically stay on that
09:35:24 >> People are being put in jeopardy.
09:35:27 Okay, I'm off the agenda then.
09:35:29 But people are being put in jeopardy by the situation.
09:35:32 Now, if you have a lot of people come, and they want bicycle
09:35:37 lanes, which is a valid kind of thing, these are not the
09:35:40 same people that are recklessly riding on the sidewalks.
09:35:43 Now, that law is not enforced on bicycle lanes but people
09:35:52 that are pedestrians do not need sidewalks eight feet wide.
09:35:56 We would rather have sidewalks four and a half feet wide,
09:36:00 and create a bicycle lane up on the sidewalk.
09:36:09 These things may go down and stuff like.
09:36:11 That anyway, that's tangentially item 28.
09:36:16 Finally, the newspapers, The Journalist establishment is
09:36:22 becoming -- it took New York four days to pump out the
09:36:28 tunnels under these rivers.
09:36:29 To finally have realization that global warming and climate
09:36:34 you can change is enroute.
09:36:36 And this is just the beginning.
09:36:37 So this can be dealt with.
09:36:42 Key is electrification of transportation so that the power
09:36:46 can be generated in different kinds of ways.
09:36:49 But basically, maybe a little bit less -- some neighborhoods
09:36:56 do need streetlights, more streetlights.
09:36:57 But a little bit less of that.
09:37:00 And electrification stations in the parking garages, and
09:37:04 even put a few solar ones on the roofs and learn how much
09:37:08 that costs.
09:37:11 Get an acknowledgment of electricity where it's downs, they
09:37:14 get three hours worth of electricity.
09:37:17 There's something in one of my classes.
09:37:18 You are the architects is a very good thing, called the
09:37:22 partners registry, and that's a very valid alternative to
09:37:26 gay marriages which are not going -- please get on the
09:37:36 And send that to Washington.
09:37:40 And thank God of that because you have many swing states.
09:37:43 And one percent of the vote to five or six percent.
09:37:49 (Bell sounds).
09:37:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
09:37:52 Next, please.
09:37:53 >> Good morning.
09:37:58 My name is Ruth McNair, and crime watch, and I am a
09:38:06 resident of Tampa and been for many, many years.
09:38:13 Where I live now, I been there 54 years, and been in Tampa
09:38:20 since 1947.
09:38:23 And my babies were born at hospital where Blake is sitting.
09:38:30 So I am a part of West Tampa for a long, long time.
09:38:33 So I'm speaking on behalf of 66.
09:38:39 Riverfront Park.
09:38:40 And I live just within walking distance of the park, and we
09:38:47 are a little bit upset about things we have been reading in
09:38:49 the paper, and the only way we find out information is
09:38:54 through the paper.
09:38:55 And so I'm really here because my heart goes out, because we
09:39:01 love West Tampa and we love the Riverfront Park, and I love
09:39:05 where I live.
09:39:05 So I'm really hoping that the city, whoever is working with
09:39:11 this park, will please keep us informed of what's going on
09:39:15 so we don't have to read it in the paper.
09:39:20 I feel like we own a part of West Tampa because I have been
09:39:23 here for so long.
09:39:25 Please, whenever you get ready to do something, I mean,
09:39:30 whoever the mayor, I don't really know, sometimes the mayor
09:39:33 is doing things along with people out of town.
09:39:36 But we like to be informed before we see it in the paper.
09:39:40 So thank you very much.
09:39:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you, Ruth.
09:39:44 And you are West Tampa.
09:39:45 Mr. Reddick.
09:39:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mrs. Mac Nair, before you go.
09:39:54 Take this opportunity to share with everyone about the
09:39:58 problem you are having with the students.
09:40:03 >> Oh, thank you so much.
09:40:07 As I say, I have been with my house that I live in, now I
09:40:11 been there 54 years.
09:40:16 And during August 30th, I got a call from my neighbor to
09:40:23 come to the door and look out.
09:40:24 I could not believe my eyes when I went to the door.
09:40:27 This neighborhood that I have moved in for so many years,
09:40:31 and opened the door and seen all these students into my
09:40:38 neighborhood on the corner, and the taxicabs, university of
09:40:42 Tampa taxicab, they were having a party in our neighborhood
09:40:50 at one of the houses that we identified four houses already,
09:40:54 maybe more.
09:40:55 They are renting these houses out and letting them have
09:40:58 parties in them, and they are disturbing the neighbors very
09:41:03 And they are urinating also in the yards, they are putting
09:41:11 glass beer bottle on the street.
09:41:13 I had to go out and clean up the beer bottles and
09:41:17 And we are proud of our neighborhood.
09:41:20 And so we are really tired of seeing this.
09:41:24 They even put it in the mailbox and litter on the curbs.
09:41:33 So this has got to stop.
09:41:34 We cannot tolerate this.
09:41:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Ms. Mulhern.
09:41:38 >>MARY MULHERN: I want to ask you a couple of questions
09:41:40 about that problem.
09:41:42 Are you saying the houses are rented out.
09:41:45 Are the students actually living in the houses or are they
09:41:48 just using them for parties?
09:41:52 >> Well, I think I have identified one as only for parties.
09:41:59 The other one, I think people are living in them.
09:42:01 But this one that has been identified a sorority house to go
09:42:07 in and have parties three or four times in the week, and I
09:42:12 mean it's very disturbing.
09:42:14 >>MARY MULHERN: What street are you on?
09:42:17 What street are these houses on?
09:42:20 >> There are houses on gray, west Gray, west Nassau, and
09:42:28 west arch.
09:42:30 Those are the houses that have been identified.
09:42:35 And Councilman Reddick, you gave him the addresses to those
09:42:39 And the one on Nassau street in 1:30 in the evening I went
09:42:46 by there, and it was covered with the yard, all over the
09:42:55 And we do not want our neighborhood going down like this.
09:43:00 And that's why we are here.
09:43:04 There are some more people that couldn't be here because of
09:43:06 doctors appointments.
09:43:10 They are always affected by living directly where the party
09:43:14 is going on.
09:43:15 So that's why we are here.
09:43:16 I only come when we got problems, and this is a big one.
09:43:19 >>MARY MULHERN: Thanks for coming down.
09:43:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Ms. Capin.
09:43:25 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Yes.
09:43:26 Ruth, I'm sorry.
09:43:26 >> Yes, ma'am?
09:43:31 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Has the university been contacted?
09:43:36 About the sorority house?
09:43:38 One of them has been identified as a sorority house?
09:43:44 The one house that has the events or parties and been
09:43:49 identified as a sorority house from the University of Tampa?
09:43:52 >> The university has not told us that.
09:43:55 This is from the neighbors, been directly lived by.
09:44:04 >>YVONNE CAPIN: But no one has contacted the university of
09:44:06 Tampa that you know of?
09:44:07 >> Not that I know of.
09:44:09 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I'm hearing that, yes, that that has
09:44:13 This is definitely a first step.
09:44:15 Also, I wanted to comment on your comment about not wanting
09:44:19 to read it in the newspaper before, want to know what's
09:44:25 happening in your neighborhood before you read about it in
09:44:27 the newspaper.
09:44:28 Likewise, we would like to know about it before we read it
09:44:30 in the newspaper, also, many times.
09:44:33 Thank you for that.
09:44:33 >>FRANK REDDICK: Let me say for the record about the
09:44:39 University of Tampa; who is assigned to that area, has been
09:44:44 contacted and he spoke with security at the University of
09:44:47 Tampa about this situation.
09:44:51 And we will be waiting to hear back from university of Tampa
09:44:56 pertaining to the students.
09:44:58 In addition to that, I have sent communication to the owners
09:45:02 of those rental properties, written communication,
09:45:07 explaining the concerns of the neighbors, as well as
09:45:11 informing them that this is going to be forwarded to code
09:45:15 enforcement if we don't hear back.
09:45:17 And we did hear back from one of the owners of the property.
09:45:21 And we are still having discussions with owners of the
09:45:24 So hopefully between the owners and the communication
09:45:30 through my office that we get some of this resolved.
09:45:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Anyone else?
09:45:38 Thank you, Mr. Reddick.
09:45:39 I'm sure if you are working on it we'll have a resolution on
09:45:42 this item like the rest of us are trying to do the best we
09:45:46 Next, please.
09:45:46 >>> Good morning.
09:45:51 My name is Lois Miles.
09:45:53 I'm a pediatrician that lives in the riverfront
09:45:57 And I wanted to sort of add to what Ms. McNair said about
09:46:02 the college students in the neighborhood.
09:46:04 She's right.
09:46:05 For the last couple of months they had these parties at
09:46:08 certain residences where there are hundreds of kids
09:46:11 literally in the streets, and in the houses.
09:46:13 They start these parties around ten at night and end around
09:46:16 two or three in the morning.
09:46:18 They play loud music the whole time.
09:46:20 Some of the neighbors have complained that they are unable
09:46:22 to sleep.
09:46:23 Some of the children can't sleep because of all the noise.
09:46:27 But I'm happy to hear that you guys have already taken steps
09:46:31 to talk with the owners of those properties.
09:46:33 I actually went as far as to send a letter to Mayor Buckhorn
09:46:37 about this as well as something else I wanted to talk about
09:46:41 regarding the park.
09:46:41 And he sent my letter over to Jane Castor and I actually
09:46:45 spoke with her last night.
09:46:46 She was very nice to call my home and we spoke about the
09:46:50 kids, and what she and her department can do from their
09:46:53 standpoint as far as trying to get this understood control.
09:46:56 So I appreciate what you guys have done so far, and
09:46:59 hopefully this will come to an end.
09:47:05 I heard Ms. McNair say they go up and down the street,
09:47:10 throw their litter in the yard, the boys and girls pull
09:47:14 their pants down to urinate right on our front yard, and
09:47:17 it's pretty despicable.
09:47:19 So anything that can be done towards that will be
09:47:22 Another thing I wanted to comment on with regards to
09:47:24 Riverfront Park.
09:47:28 There was an article, several articles in the paper about
09:47:31 the park and on the things, redevelopment and things going
09:47:35 on in this riverfront in West Tampa.
09:47:38 But I just wanted to talk about the park, and the mayor had
09:47:42 some comments in the paper about really destroying the park
09:47:46 and putting a restaurant, which I thought was not a good
09:47:50 A lot of us use that park, as you may know, was just built
09:47:58 there a few years ago, a lot of kid, little league teams use
09:48:01 the field to play, and I hate to see that destroyed just to
09:48:06 put up a restaurant.
09:48:09 So I'm here to speak for the park.
09:48:11 I hope that it's not destroyed.
09:48:13 I hope it stays.
09:48:15 A lot of people do use the park.
09:48:16 That's it.
09:48:17 Thank you.
09:48:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you so very much.
09:48:19 Next, please.
09:48:19 >>> Distinguished ladies and gentlemen, my name is Mary
09:48:33 Alice Dorsett.
09:48:35 I live at 1102 West Gray Street.
09:48:39 And I am disturbed about West Tampa, all over Wast Tampa.
09:48:46 I was telling you what is happening with West Tampa now.
09:48:55 I was telling Mrs. McNair, the value of the property, and he
09:49:06 said, oh, you have told me that long ago.
09:49:09 I been talking about it since six years ago when you took
09:49:14 the properties offer the riverfront there.
09:49:18 I was living with a lady named Mrs. Jones.
09:49:22 And there's no other house in all Hillsborough County, and
09:49:31 when you took that -- and I know you all weren't in office
09:49:33 at the time but you are right here now.
09:49:36 But, anyway, when you took that, and keep us from -- what
09:49:45 have you, put the park there, and now you are back at it
09:49:54 And I feel that you should not -- it's wrong to take our
09:50:01 And you do that all the time.
09:50:10 I like progress, too.
09:50:11 But all the time of our benefit, and taking it from us all
09:50:20 the time, and it's wrong.
09:50:22 It's very wrong.
09:50:23 And I maintain to let us keep our properties.
09:50:29 And I bet not one of you up there would want somebody to
09:50:34 come and take your property and you have to move somewhere.
09:50:39 Think about that.
09:50:40 Stop doing these wrong things.
09:50:42 We want things done, but we pay taxes, also.
09:50:47 Stop moving us around and pushing us out.
09:50:51 All right?
09:50:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you, ma'am.
09:50:54 Next, please.
09:50:56 Ms. Capin.
09:50:57 >>YVONNE CAPIN: In reference to West Tampa, I just want to
09:50:59 say very quickly, thank you for being here.
09:51:02 There is a community meeting December 6th in the West
09:51:08 Tampa library, and also on January 31.
09:51:12 January 31, a workshop here at City Council at 9:30 in the
09:51:17 morning about West Tampa, all of West Tampa.
09:51:20 So I hope to see you all here.
09:51:23 Hope you can make it.
09:51:24 >> I'm sorry, when?
09:51:26 >> January 31 at 9:30 in the morning workshop.
09:51:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Anyone else at this time care to speak to
09:51:34 any item on the agenda or off the agenda, please come
09:51:40 >> Susan Long.
09:51:41 This item is not on the agenda.
09:51:44 Get up one morning, a week, ten days ago, the April to my
09:51:48 driveway is gone, my sidewalk is missing or a huge chunk
09:51:52 around it, no notice, just missing.
09:51:56 Fortunately, my car was not in my garage.
09:52:01 Now, before I go on, let me tell you I have already
09:52:04 contacted the people who did it.
09:52:05 I had an apology from the contractor and the department.
09:52:09 But why don't we get notices when they are going to tear up
09:52:11 the apron to our driveway?
09:52:13 We spent two and a half hours trying to get my son's
09:52:16 motorcycle in and out of the garage because there's no
09:52:19 apron, and motorcycling don't go through those holes real
09:52:25 It is very upsetting.
09:52:26 On top of that, this seems to be a pattern with the city.
09:52:29 They tell us they are going to do something on the sewage.
09:52:35 They give us a door hanger.
09:52:37 Three, four months go by, nothing happens.
09:52:39 We forget about it.
09:52:40 Then one day they are out there doing it.
09:52:42 They say they are going to check fire hydrants.
09:52:44 They give us a hang tag, two, three, six months go by, then
09:52:48 they come and do it.
09:52:51 By the time they do it, we have totally forgotten six months
09:52:55 to a year ago they told us they are going to do it in the
09:52:58 next couple of weeks.
09:52:59 Those weeks have come and gone.
09:53:02 I can't even get into my garage because the city just
09:53:05 arbitrarily one day decided to tear up the apron to my
09:53:09 And it was just, you know, it was the final straw.
09:53:12 Like I said, fortunately my car was outside, in the carport,
09:53:18 not in the garage.
09:53:23 But I want to know why the city can't give us more
09:53:26 consistent notice when they are going to do things to
09:53:28 disrupt our lives.
09:53:29 Thank you.
09:53:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
09:53:31 Anyone else in the audience care to speak who has not
09:53:39 >> Chip Thomas, 1219 east Tanner Avenue.
09:53:46 I want to speak about transportation, something that doesn't
09:53:49 seem to have gotten a lot of discussion here in the last
09:53:51 year and a half, and that's sort of puzzling because I don't
09:53:53 know if there are many issues that have greater impact on
09:53:56 quality of life as well as the economic health and the
09:53:58 overall health of the city.
09:54:00 And I want to talk about why car-free living should be the
09:54:05 number one goal when it comes to transportation.
09:54:09 Why we should not expect the government, the federal
09:54:12 government to address this and it has to be done on a local
09:54:15 level, which is a burden on you, but the good news is, it
09:54:18 can be done on a local version.
09:54:23 Why don't you pursue this with some urgency and how we can
09:54:26 actually achieve this.
09:54:27 And there are two trends in place that are very powerful.
09:54:33 Number one, this idea of flat, declining wages that's been
09:54:39 going on for 30 years or more, and in a world where a heavy
09:54:42 majority, 70, 8 10:90% of the people would love to work and
09:54:46 earn half or a quarter or less than what we are accustomed
09:54:49 to, and the Internet has made outsourcing so easy, and it is
09:54:54 also facilitated education and job training and skill level
09:54:58 of all of other people around the world that we should
09:55:02 expect for some time to come that gap to close, and their
09:55:07 wages aren't coming up to ours.
09:55:09 There's going to be a meeting in the middle so we should
09:55:12 expect our wages to be flat or declining for some time.
09:55:15 And compounding this is rising expenses, insurance and
09:55:18 health and education has been an issue for a while.
09:55:20 But in a world that the population grows by 70 or 80 million
09:55:25 a year, and we have a couple hundred million people on the
09:55:28 verge of becoming consumers, food and energy are going to
09:55:31 become real issues, and we should expect expenses to rise
09:55:33 for some time to come.
09:55:35 That's a major squeeze on the majority of Americans.
09:55:38 And one of the biggest mistakes we make in this country is
09:55:41 the widespread belief that I need my car to get to work.
09:55:45 And there are some people, because of the commutes, they do
09:55:48 need a car, but they have to change things because the cars
09:55:52 are becoming increasingly affordable and that's what car
09:55:55 free living needs to be a solution.
09:55:57 And 39 years ago we had the first taste of spice hikes and
09:56:03 we have done virtually nothing in this country to change our
09:56:08 So I don't think there's any way to expect a national
09:56:10 approach to this.
09:56:10 (Bell sounds)
09:56:14 The price of oil, of which our transportation system is
09:56:18 dependent over 90% on, is almost certainly the goal 13 years
09:56:25 ago it was a dollar a gallon and it's tripled since then and
09:56:28 I think it's going take less than 13 years to triple again.
09:56:31 So on a local level, we need to go car-free living.
09:56:36 And there isn't time to discuss a way to do that.
09:56:39 But I hope you are interested enough to maybe talk about
09:56:41 that, because the silver lining is very bright, and the
09:56:45 advantages of doing this are quite significant, not all
09:56:49 So thank you.
09:56:49 (Bell sounds).
09:56:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
09:56:51 Anyone else in the audience who has not spoken or cares to
09:56:54 speak at this time?
09:57:00 I see no one.
09:57:03 Requests from the public for reconsideration of any
09:57:05 legislative matters of a prior meeting?
09:57:10 I see no one either.
09:57:13 We go to committee reports at this time.
09:57:15 We go to the Public Safety Committee chair, Mr. Frank
09:57:19 >>FRANK REDDICK: Move item number 2, Mr. Chair.
09:57:22 >>HARRY COHEN: Second.
09:57:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mr. Reddick, second by
09:57:26 Mr. Cohen on item number 2.
09:57:28 All in favor of the motion indicate by saying aye.
09:57:30 Opposed nay.
09:57:32 The ayes have it unanimously.
09:57:33 Go now to park, recreation, culture, Mary Mulhern.
09:57:38 >>MARY MULHERN: I move items 3 through 13.
09:57:40 >> Substitution.
09:57:49 >>MARY MULHERN: Oh, including the substitute.
09:57:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Are you all right?
09:57:52 I have a motion by Mrs. Mulhern.
09:57:53 I have a second by Mr. Cohen.
09:57:56 Items 3 through 13.
09:57:58 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
09:58:01 Opposed nay.
09:58:02 The ayes have it unanimously.
09:58:06 Public Works Committee chair, Mr. Mike Suarez.
09:58:09 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I move item number 14.
09:58:13 >>HARRY COHEN: Second.
09:58:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: All in favor of that motion please
09:58:16 indicate by saying aye. Opposed nay.
09:58:18 The ayes have it unanimously.
09:58:20 Finance Committee chair Mr. Harry Cohen.
09:58:22 >>HARRY COHEN: I move items 15 through 23, and that
09:58:26 includes the substitutions on number 17 and 18.
09:58:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a second by Mr. Suarez.
09:58:33 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
09:58:36 Opposed nay.
09:58:37 The ayes have it unanimously.
09:58:39 Building, Zoning and Preservation Committee chair, Ms. Lisa
09:58:43 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
09:58:45 And I apologize for this because I just had an opportunity
09:58:49 right this minute to speak with Greg Bayor from our Parks
09:58:53 Department, and I would like to have item number 26
09:58:58 rescheduled for a date when we can hear from Parks
09:59:00 Department about the use of the property that we are being
09:59:04 purchased -- that we are asking to purchase.
09:59:07 And that would be item number 26.
09:59:14 Mr. Bayor, a date that we can hear item number 26?
09:59:24 Would a regular meeting be sufficient?
09:59:28 >> Yes, more than sufficient.
09:59:30 Thank you.
09:59:30 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So November 15th under staff
09:59:42 10 a.m.
09:59:44 Thank you.
09:59:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: You move approval of all but 26 to be
09:59:49 held over to November 15th at 10:00.
09:59:54 Seconded by Mrs. Mulhern.
09:59:55 All in favor of that motion indicate by saying aye.
09:59:58 Opposed nay.
10:00:00 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:00:01 >> So I move item 24, 25, 27 through 43.
10:00:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have that motion made by Ms.
10:00:13 Montelione, seconded by Ms. Mulhern.
10:00:15 All in favor of that motion?
10:00:22 Seconded by Mrs. Mulhern.
10:00:24 All in favor of the motion? Opposed?
10:00:26 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:00:28 Thank you very much.
10:00:29 Transportation committee chair Ms. Yvonne Yolie Capin.
10:00:35 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I move items 39 through 43.
10:00:37 >> Second.
10:00:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a second by Mr. Suarez.
10:00:41 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying aye.
10:00:47 Opposed nay.
10:00:47 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:00:49 We now go to public hearings on items 44 through 352.
10:00:52 These are second reads and these are quasi-judicial
10:01:01 Motion to open by Mrs. Montelione, seconded by Mr. Cohen.
10:01:05 All in favor? Opposed?
10:01:06 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:01:08 The hearings are now open.
10:01:09 Yes, ma'am.
10:01:09 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Planning development.
10:01:14 We are here basically for second readings so overall code
10:01:17 consolidation and reorganization of the code requirements.
10:01:23 Item number 46 deals with chapter 13.
10:01:26 I do have a substitute ordinance.
10:01:29 There was one reference error in section 6 where there was a
10:01:34 blanket statement to parks and -- references to planning and
10:01:39 I had to add in with the exemptions for the forestry
10:01:46 division which is actually understood parks and rec and they
10:01:49 are not moving as part of the organization so I had to clean
10:01:52 that part of it up which is just a reference.
10:01:54 So if you want to substitute that.
10:01:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: You have the substitution ordinance.
10:02:10 All right.
10:02:10 Hearing is now open, item number 44.
10:02:12 >>MARY MULHERN: These are motions for second hearing and
10:02:16 consideration for completion of these ordinances.
10:02:20 Any other comments by the city department, item number 44?
10:02:25 Anyone in the audience care to speak on item number 44?
10:02:29 I see no one.
10:02:32 Motion to close by Mr. Cohen, seconded by Mr. Suarez.
10:02:36 All in favor of that motion, please indicate by saying aye.
10:02:39 Opposed nay.
10:02:40 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:02:41 Item number 44.
10:02:44 Mrs. Montelione, would you care to take item number 44,
10:02:47 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Certainly.
10:02:51 I appreciate the opportunity to move an ordinance being
10:02:53 presented for second reading and consideration, an ordinance
10:02:55 of the city of Tampa, Florida making revisions to City of
10:02:58 Tampa code of orphans chapter 3, alcoholic beverages,
10:03:01 amending article 1, amending and readopting in chapter 14
10:03:05 City of Tampa code of ordinances, article 2 and article 6,
10:03:08 repealing all ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict
10:03:11 therewith, providing for severability, providing an
10:03:13 effective date.
10:03:13 >> Second.
10:03:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion for passage of this
10:03:18 ordinance by Mrs. Montelione, a second by Mr. Suarez.
10:03:21 This is roll call vote.
10:03:23 Vote and record.
10:03:25 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
10:03:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: We go to item number 45.
10:03:44 A presentation by the city?
10:03:47 Any changes?
10:03:48 Anyone in the audience care to speak on item 45?
10:03:52 Motion to close by Mr. Reddick, seconded by Mr. Cohen.
10:03:55 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
10:03:58 Opposed nay.
10:03:59 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:04:00 The hearing is now closed.
10:04:01 Mr. Cohen, will you kindly take number 45?
10:04:05 >>HARRY COHEN: Move an ordinance for second reading and
10:04:07 adoption, an ordinance of the city of Tampa, Florida making
10:04:09 revisions to City of Tampa code of ordinances, chapter 5,
10:04:13 building code, amending section 5-102.9, words defined,
10:04:18 amending section is 5-102.10 words not defined, repealing
10:04:22 all ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict therewith,
10:04:26 providing for severability is, providing an effective date.
10:04:29 >> Second.
10:04:31 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a second by Mr. Suarez.
10:04:33 Roll call vote.
10:04:33 Vote and record.
10:04:34 >>THE CLERK: I am missing one vote.
10:04:54 >> That's because she's not here.
10:04:57 >> Motion carried with Mulhern absent at vote.
10:05:03 >> Number 46.
10:05:07 >> Motion to close.
10:05:07 >> Second.
10:05:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: All in favor indicate by saying aye.
10:05:11 Opposed nay.
10:05:13 Mr. Reddick, would you kindly take number 46, please?
10:05:17 >> Yes, Mr. Chair.
10:05:24 Move an ordinance of the city of Tampa, Florida making
10:05:27 comprehensive revisions to the city code, chapter 13, site
10:05:34 plans, repealing all ordinances or parts of ordinances in
10:05:36 conflict therewith, providing for severability, providing an
10:05:42 effective date.
10:05:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a second by Mr. Cohen on an
10:05:45 extremely close vote with Mr. Suarez.
10:05:48 Roll call vote.
10:05:49 Vote and record.
10:05:49 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
10:06:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Item number 47.
10:06:03 City or anyone in the audience care to speak on item number
10:06:07 Need a motion to close.
10:06:10 Motion by Mr. Suarez, second by Ms. Mulhern.
10:06:13 All in favor of that motion? Opposed nay.
10:06:16 The ayes have it unanimously. It was going to be Mr.
10:06:19 Reddick's turn but he took your place and you have to read
10:06:22 the large one.
10:06:23 I'm sorry to tell you that.
10:06:27 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Councilman
10:06:30 [ Laughter ]
10:06:32 I move an ordinance being presented for second reading and
10:06:34 adoption, an ordinance of the city of Tampa, Florida making
10:06:37 revisions with the City of Tampa code of ordinances chapter
10:06:41 14, amending article 2, miscellaneous offenses, creating
10:06:45 division 10, alcoholic beverages, creating section 14-150.1,
10:06:51 hours of sale for consumption on and off premises, creating
10:06:55 section 14-1550.1.1, posting on premises of specific
10:07:02 conditions relating to establishments that sell alcoholic
10:07:08 beverages, creating section 14-150.1.2, consumption and
10:07:14 possession of open containers on streets, sidewalks, alleys
10:07:18 and other public property, creating section 14-150.1.3,
10:07:23 possession, consumption on property operated or supervised
10:07:27 by the Parks and Recreation Department, temporary alcoholic
10:07:30 beverage special use permits granted for public area,
10:07:34 facility or property operated or supervised by the Parks and
10:07:37 Recreation Department, creating section 14-150.1.4,
10:07:43 consumption on premises zoned for only off-premises
10:07:47 consumption prohibited, exception for wine tastings,
10:07:51 creating section 14-150.1.5 damaging signs prohibited,
10:07:59 creating section 14-150.1.6 consumption of alcoholic
10:08:03 beverages on premises within 500 feet of property zoned for
10:08:08 off-premises consumption prohibited, creating section
10:08:12 14-150.1.7, right of entry, creating section 188.8.131.52,
10:08:20 police reports, creating section 14-150.1.9 through
10:08:27 14-150.1.10, reserved, repealing all ordinances or part of
10:08:34 ordinances in conflict therewith, providing for
10:08:37 severability, providing an effective date.
10:08:37 >>FRANK REDDICK: Second.
10:08:40 [ Laughter ]
10:08:43 >>HARRY COHEN: I didn't get that last -- [ Laughter ]
10:08:46 >> One lady in the third row wants it read again.
10:08:49 I have a motion by Mrs. Mulhern, seconded by Mr. Reddick.
10:08:52 Roll call vote.
10:08:53 Vote and record.
10:08:54 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
10:09:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Item number 48.
10:09:05 Anyone in the city or anyone in the audience care to speak
10:09:07 on item number 48?
10:09:09 I see no one.
10:09:11 I have a motion to close by Mr. Cohen, seconded by Mrs.
10:09:14 All in favor of the motion indicate by saying aye. Opposed
10:09:17 nay. The ayes have it unanimously.
10:09:18 Ms. Capin, would you kindly take number 48?
10:09:24 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Ordinance being presented for second reading
10:09:26 and adoption, an ordinance of the city of Tampa, Florida
10:09:29 making revisions to City of Tampa code of ordinances chapter
10:09:32 17.5, planning and land development, amending articles II
10:09:38 through V, amending and readopting article VI, repealing all
10:09:43 ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict therewith,
10:09:45 providing for severability, providing for an effective date.
10:09:48 >>HARRY COHEN: Second.
10:09:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mrs. Capin, a second
10:09:52 by Mr. Cohen.
10:09:53 Roll call vote.
10:09:54 Vote and record.
10:10:00 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
10:10:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
10:10:05 Item number 49.
10:10:07 Anyone in the city or anyone in the audience care to speak
10:10:09 on this item number 49?
10:10:13 Motion to close by Mr. Reddick, second by Mr. Cohen.
10:10:15 All in favor of that motion? Opposed nay?
10:10:18 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:10:20 Mr. Suarez, would you kindly take number 49?
10:10:23 >> I present an ordinance for second reading and adoption,
10:10:26 an ordinance of the city of Tampa, Florida deleting chapter
10:10:29 20.5, signs, section 20.5-1 through 20.5-25 and readopting
10:10:36 the entire chapter 20.5 and chapter 27, repealing all
10:10:41 ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict therewith,
10:10:45 providing for severability, providing an effective date.
10:10:47 >> Second.
10:10:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mr. Suarez, a second
10:10:51 by Mr. Reddick.
10:10:52 Roll call vote.
10:10:55 Vote and record.
10:10:55 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
10:11:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
10:11:04 Item number 50.
10:11:05 Anyone from the city or anyone in the audience care to speak
10:11:08 on item number 50?
10:11:10 I see no one.
10:11:11 I have a motion to close by Mr. Reddick, seconded by Mr.
10:11:14 Suarez on a close vote with Mr. Cohen.
10:11:17 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
10:11:20 Opposed nay.
10:11:21 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:11:22 Mrs. Montelione, will you kindly take number 50, please?
10:11:28 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you for the opportunity.
10:11:30 I present an ordinance for second reading and adoption,
10:11:32 ordinance of the city of Tampa, Florida making revisions
10:11:34 total City of Tampa code of ordinances chapter 21,
10:11:37 stormwater management, creating section 21-116.1, stormwater
10:11:45 technical standards manual for private development adopted,
10:11:48 repealing all ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict
10:11:51 therewith, providing for severability, providing an
10:11:54 effective date.
10:11:54 >> Second.
10:11:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mrs. Montelione for
10:11:57 approval, seconded by Mr. Suarez.
10:11:59 Roll call vote.
10:12:02 Vote and record.
10:12:02 >> Motion carried unanimously.
10:12:08 >> Item number 51.
10:12:15 Anyone in the city or anyone in the audience care to speak
10:12:19 on item 51?
10:12:20 I see no one.
10:12:21 I have a motion to close by Mr. Reddick, seconded by Mrs.
10:12:24 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
10:12:28 Opposed nay.
10:12:28 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:12:30 Mr. Cohen, will you kindly take number 51?
10:12:33 >> Move an ordinance being presented for second reading and
10:12:35 adoption, an ordinance of the city of Tampa, Florida making
10:12:38 revisions to City of Tampa code of ordinances chapter 27
10:12:42 zoning, amending and readopting article 1 through 11,
10:12:47 amending article 12-25, repealing all ordinances or parts of
10:12:50 ordinances in conflict therewith, providing for
10:12:53 severability, providing an effective date.
10:12:54 >> Second.
10:12:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mr. Cohen, a second by
10:12:58 Mr. Suarez.
10:12:59 Roll call vote.
10:13:00 Vote and record.
10:13:00 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
10:13:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Item number 52.
10:13:11 Anyone from the city or anyone in the audience care to speak
10:13:14 on item 52?
10:13:15 I see no one.
10:13:17 Motion to close by Mr. Reddick, seconded by Mr. Cohen.
10:13:20 All in favor?
10:13:22 Opposed nay?
10:13:23 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:13:24 Mrs. Mulhern, will you take number 52, please.
10:13:27 >> I move an ordinance being presented for second reading
10:13:29 and adoption, an ordinance of the city of Tampa, Florida
10:13:31 relating to the Westshore overlay district making revisions
10:13:34 to City of Tampa code of ordinances chapter 27, zoning,
10:13:38 amending section 27-463, Westshore commercial overlay
10:13:43 district development standards, repealing all ordinances or
10:13:47 parts of ordinances in conflict therewith, providing for
10:13:50 severability, providing an effective date.
10:13:51 >> Second.
10:13:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mrs. Mulhern for
10:13:55 passage, seconded by Mr. Cohen.
10:13:57 Roll call vote.
10:13:59 Vote and record.
10:13:59 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
10:14:07 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: We go to public hearings for second
10:14:09 Items 353 through 58.
10:14:11 These are quasi-judicial.
10:14:13 Anyone who is thinking of speaking, wants to speak, or hopes
10:14:15 to speak, please stand up and raise your right hand to be
10:14:19 sworn in.
10:14:19 (Oath administered by Clerk)
10:14:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I ask that all written materials that have
10:14:34 been available for public inspection through City Council's
10:14:37 office be received and filed at this time.
10:14:38 >>MIKE SUAREZ: So moved.
10:14:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mr. Suarez.
10:14:42 Second by Mr. Cohen.
10:14:43 All in favor of the motion?
10:14:44 Opposed nay?
10:14:45 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:14:47 These hearings are open.
10:14:51 Item number 53.
10:14:58 Okay, item 53 is a motion to be continued.
10:15:02 Anyone in the public who would care to speak on 353 on the
10:15:05 continuance of the movement to December the 6th.
10:15:12 I see no one.
10:15:13 I have a motion to close.
10:15:17 Motion to continue to December 6th.
10:15:18 I have a motion by Mr. Suarez.
10:15:21 The time is the same as today.
10:15:23 It's going to be a different date.
10:15:25 December 6th it will be at 9:30 a.m.
10:15:27 I have a motion by Mr. Suarez.
10:15:29 Second by Mr. Cohen.
10:15:31 Mrs. Capin.
10:15:36 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I just want to be clear.
10:15:37 There was an article in the newspaper.
10:15:40 It stated that the amplified music after 10:30.
10:15:49 And there was one word that was left out which gave the
10:15:52 impression that it was pretty much a ban after 10:30 and the
10:15:58 one word was outdoor amplification.
10:16:00 So I want to make that clear, that that was what they had
10:16:04 agreed that they wanted to add to their site plan, to their
10:16:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much, Ms. Capin.
10:16:11 Let's vote on the continuance.
10:16:13 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying aye.
10:16:18 Item 53 is continued to December 6th at 9:30 a.m.
10:16:22 Item number 54.
10:16:28 >>JOEL SOUSA: Land development.
10:16:30 Plans have been submitted to the clerk's office.
10:16:32 >> Anyone care to speak on item 54?
10:16:39 I have a motion to close by Mr. Cohen.
10:16:41 Seconded by Mr. Suarez.
10:16:42 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying aye.
10:16:45 Opposed nay.
10:16:46 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:16:48 Picking up where I left off, I believe it's Mr. Reddick's
10:16:51 >>FRANK REDDICK: Move an ordinance for second reading and
10:16:59 adoption, an ordinance repealing ordinance 2005-209 and
10:17:03 ordinance 2011-64, approving a special use permit S-2 for
10:17:08 alcoholic beverage sales, small venue, on premises only and
10:17:11 making lawful the sale of beverages regardless of alcoholic
10:17:15 content, beer and wine and liquor, on that certain lot, plot
10:17:19 or tract of land located at 2223 North Westshore Boulevard,
10:17:24 unit B-227, Tampa, Florida as more particularly described in
10:17:28 section 3, that all ordinances or parts of ordinances in
10:17:31 conflict are repealed, providing an effective date.
10:17:33 >> Second.
10:17:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mr. Reddick.
10:17:37 A second by Mr. Suarez.
10:17:39 Roll call vote.
10:17:41 Vote and record.
10:17:50 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
10:17:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Item number 55.
10:17:58 Yes, sir.
10:17:58 >> Joel Sousa, land development.
10:18:04 Approved by the administrator and clerk's office.
10:18:06 >> Anyone care do speak on item 55?
10:18:09 I see no one.
10:18:11 Need a motion to close.
10:18:11 Motion to close, seconded by Mr. Cohen.
10:18:17 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:18:20 Ms. Capin, would you kindly take number 55?
10:18:22 >> An ordinance presented for second reading and adoption,
10:18:25 an ordinance approving a special use permit S-2 for
10:18:28 alcoholic beverage sales, on premises only and making lawful
10:18:34 the sale of beverages regarding alcoholic content beer wine
10:18:37 and liquor on the certain lot, plot or tract of land located
10:18:40 at 3601 West Swann Avenue, Tampa, Florida, as more
10:18:45 particularly described in section 2, that all ordinances or
10:18:49 parts of ordinances in conflict are repealed, providing an
10:18:53 effective date.
10:18:53 >>HARRY COHEN: Second.
10:18:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a second by Mr. Cohen.
10:18:58 Al roll call vote.
10:19:00 Vote and record.
10:19:00 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Reddick being absent.
10:19:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Item number 56.
10:19:14 >>ABBYE FEELEY: Land Development Coordination.
10:19:17 Item number 56 required a certified site plan that has been
10:19:21 provided to the clerk, and I also have copies available for
10:19:23 your review.
10:19:24 Thank you.
10:19:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
10:19:26 Anyone in the audience care to speak on this?
10:19:29 >> I'm the owner.
10:19:32 Happy to answer any questions.
10:19:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: What if we don't have any questions?
10:19:35 Then you can't answer them.
10:19:36 [ Laughter ]
10:19:41 All right.
10:19:41 I have a motion to close.
10:19:44 I have a motion by Mr. Cohen, seconded by Mr. Suarez.
10:19:47 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying aye.
10:19:50 Opposed nay.
10:19:50 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:19:52 Mr. Suarez, would you kindly take number 56, please?
10:19:56 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I present an ordinance being presented for
10:19:58 second reading and adoption, an ordinance rezoning property
10:20:00 in the general vicinity of 2133-2135 west union street in
10:20:05 the city of Tampa, Florida and more particularly described
10:20:08 in section 1 from zoning district classifications PD planned
10:20:13 development, office, business/professional, to PD, planned
10:20:16 development, office, business/professional and warehouse,
10:20:20 providing an effective date.
10:20:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mr. Suarez.
10:20:23 I have a second by Ms. Montelione.
10:20:25 Roll call vote.
10:20:26 Vote and record.
10:20:26 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried with Reddick being absent.
10:20:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Item number 57.
10:20:43 Anyone from the city or anyone in the audience care to speak
10:20:46 on item number 57?
10:20:48 I see no one.
10:20:50 I have a motion to close by Mr. Cohen, seconded by Mr.
10:20:54 All in favor of the motion indicate by saying aye.
10:20:56 Opposed nay.
10:20:57 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:20:58 Mrs. Ms. Montelione, would you take number 57, please?
10:21:03 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I move an ordinance being presented for
10:21:05 second reading and adoption, an ordinance rezoning the
10:21:07 property in the general vicinity of 1205 east 108th
10:21:11 Avenue in the city of Tampa, Florida and more particularly
10:21:13 described in section 1 from zoning district classification
10:21:16 RS-50 to RM-18 residential multifamily providing an
10:21:20 effective date.
10:21:20 >> Second.
10:21:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Seconded by Mr. Cohen.
10:21:25 Roll call vote.
10:21:26 Vote and record.
10:21:26 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
10:21:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Item number 58.
10:21:38 Anyone from the city or anyone in the audience care to speak
10:21:40 on item number 58?
10:21:41 I see no one.
10:21:43 I have a motion to close by Mr. Reddick, second by Mr.
10:21:46 All in favor of that motion indicate by saying aye.
10:21:49 Opposed nay.
10:21:49 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:21:50 Mr. Cohen, will you kindly take that item.
10:21:53 >> I move an ordinance being presented for second reading
10:21:56 and adoption, an ordinance rezoning property in the general
10:21:59 vicinity of 3410 East 7th Avenue in the city of Tampa,
10:22:02 Florida and more particularly described in section 1 from
10:22:06 zoning district classification IG industrial general, to CI,
10:22:10 commercial intensive, providing an effective date.
10:22:12 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Second.
10:22:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a second by Mr. Suarez.
10:22:16 Roll call vote.
10:22:17 Vote and record.
10:22:17 >>THE CLERK: Motion carried unanimously.
10:22:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Now we go to staff reports.
10:22:31 And I will be out for just a couple of minutes.
10:22:52 >>THE CLERK: Shirley Foxx-Knowles, city clerk, to present
10:22:57 the applicant for item 59 through 64, beginning with item
10:23:02 number 59, the Architectural Review Commission.
10:23:07 We have three positions available and four applicants with
10:23:13 three incumbents, and one other applicant.
10:23:18 And the individuals will be serving a three-year term.
10:23:27 The three applicants, or the four applicants, include
10:23:31 Eisenfeld, Highland, Davis, and Pruitt.
10:23:40 If they are here, they can come.
10:23:42 >> Good morning.
10:24:00 >> My name is Peter Carlin and I haven't been sworn in yet.
10:24:06 >>HARRY COHEN: You don't have to be sworn for this.
10:24:08 >> Just making sure.
10:24:11 My name is Peter Carlin.
10:24:14 I have been a resident of South Tampa since 1994, graduated
10:24:18 from the University of Florida with a masters in
10:24:25 From '94 to '98 I worked in several prominent architectural
10:24:30 firms in Tampa, and then started working in construction,
10:24:36 and in 2003 started my own construction company, Carlin
10:24:43 construction, and since that time my experience has been
10:24:45 primarily residential projects and commercial projects in
10:24:49 the South Tampa area, and a good portion of those projects
10:24:53 were renovations, additions, and rehabilitations on historic
10:24:58 homes in Hyde Park and Tampa Heights.
10:25:02 My first project is in the historic district of Hyde Park,
10:25:10 renovation to historic home in 2005.
10:25:15 Since then, my company has had a presence in that area, or
10:25:19 Tampa Heights, on an ongoing basis.
10:25:24 I think my experience in doing these projects in the
10:25:27 historic district has given me unique insight into what it
10:25:32 takes to add on to, renovate, or rehabilitate an historic
10:25:40 When working on historic homes, particular sensitivity and
10:25:46 attention to detail is required that is usually not present
10:25:49 when working on a home in a nonhistoric district.
10:25:54 There's a requirement to maintain the overall integrity of
10:25:57 the historic district and structures in those districts with
10:26:03 appropriate architectural decisions and construction
10:26:09 I have gained good personal satisfaction over the years by
10:26:11 both working on a professional level in the historic
10:26:14 districts, and also by serving on the Architectural Review
10:26:20 I have served on the Architectural Review Commission for
10:26:23 almost two years now since early 2010.
10:26:28 By having served on the board and also having worked
10:26:32 professionally in the historic districts, I feel my
10:26:35 experience can offer a unique and correct perspective to the
10:26:40 I also view serving on the board as an opportunity to
10:26:44 dedicate my time and give back to the community as an
10:26:47 integral part of my business.
10:26:52 Thank you for your time.
10:26:53 And I look forward to the opportunity to serving another
10:26:55 term on the Architectural Review Commission.
10:26:59 Thank you.
10:27:00 >> Good morning, honorable council members.
10:27:09 My name is Beth Eisenfeld, south Packwood in the Hyde Park
10:27:17 I have lived there since 2005.
10:27:21 I served on the ARC for several years.
10:27:24 Originally, I took over for a commissioner that had
10:27:29 So I am now seeking a second full term.
10:27:34 Historic preservation is more than wood and paint and stucco
10:27:39 and no house is an island, and every building is part of a
10:27:43 neighborhood that's part of this great city.
10:27:45 And the larger community.
10:27:48 Thankfully, Tampa supports historic preservation.
10:27:53 The value that I would bring to the ARC is what I like to
10:27:56 call the three Es -- the education, the experience, and
10:28:00 the energy.
10:28:01 I have a bachelors in landscape architecture, masters in
10:28:05 urban planning, and am a registered real estate appraiser
10:28:10 trainee in the State of Florida.
10:28:11 My experience, I am well versed in the secretary of interior
10:28:16 standards from historic preservation and all the various
10:28:19 guidelines for the various districts in the City of Tampa.
10:28:23 I have got first-hand experience myself with historic
10:28:26 properties and restoring them.
10:28:29 My first one is when I lived in Chicago, and that house got
10:28:34 put on the national register.
10:28:35 I have also restored my house here in Tampa, and not only
10:28:38 was I through the architectural review process with certain
10:28:46 of appropriateness here, I also obtained an ad valorem tax
10:28:50 exemption so I personally know what the applicants before me
10:28:53 are actually feeling and going through.
10:28:55 I have the energy to do this.
10:28:58 Every community should encourage preservation.
10:29:01 That's my perspective.
10:29:03 To protect the neighborhoods so the buildings of the past
10:29:05 don't get knocked down and don't disappear forever.
10:29:09 And I would like to continue to work on the ARC.
10:29:13 I really enjoy my time there.
10:29:15 I have a passion for preserving the sense of place,
10:29:19 preservation is as much about the past as it is about the
10:29:24 The two co-mingle.
10:29:26 And I would like to continue to serve on the ARC.
10:29:29 I mentioned the three Es.
10:29:32 I would like to combine those along with my interest to
10:29:34 continue to make this city great, and support the historic
10:29:37 preservation that we have.
10:29:40 I also believe you have received a few recommendation
10:29:44 letters from residents of the city on my behalf.
10:29:46 And I would urge you to consider those as you are making
10:29:48 your decision.
10:29:49 Thank you for allowing me to speak today.
10:29:53 This is the shortest job interview I ever had.
10:29:57 [ Laughter ]
10:30:00 >> Good morning.
10:30:03 My name is KARA Davis, 5310 north branch Avenue.
10:30:08 I have been a resident of Old Seminole Heights since 2005.
10:30:12 I have lived in old houses my entire live, having grown up
10:30:16 in the northeast, grown up in an 1850s home.
10:30:20 I'm know stranger to the trials and tribulations of what
10:30:23 goes on in houses of that age group.
10:30:25 My current house was built in 1916.
10:30:29 I do not bring the qualifications of being an architect or a
10:30:32 contractor as my other fellow applicants have.
10:30:35 I bring a passion for historic preservation.
10:30:39 I have been on my neighborhood preservation committee.
10:30:43 I enjoy serving my community in this manner.
10:30:46 I enjoy combining my civic duty along with my interests as
10:30:49 historic preservation.
10:30:51 I am in the financial industry.
10:30:53 And I have worked with historic preservation's financing at
10:30:58 certain points in my career.
10:31:01 I'm familiar with that end of it.
10:31:03 I wish to continue my service to my community, and sit on
10:31:08 the commission for another term.
10:31:09 That's all I have.
10:31:10 Thank you.
10:31:16 >> Mr. Pruitt?
10:31:24 Council, you have your ballots if you can complete your
10:31:28 And I will tally those.
10:31:33 >>FRANK REDDICK: So the only person missing is Mr. Pruitt?
10:31:39 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Yes.
10:31:42 >> Why don't we go ahead and move on to item 60 while those
10:32:03 votes are tallied?
10:32:13 >> Item number 60, we have three positions and one
10:32:21 applicant, and that applicant is the incumbent, Fran
10:32:27 Cosentino, if she would like to come forward.
10:32:30 This is regarding the Barrio Latino commission.
10:32:36 >> Good morning.
10:32:38 Fran Costantino, president of the historic and civic
10:32:44 I don't know if I have been volunteered for this position or
10:32:48 was drafted for this position.
10:32:50 I have spoken many times, appeared before you.
10:32:53 I think you all probably more about me than you really care
10:32:58 to know at this point.
10:32:59 But now my passion and my love for Ybor City.
10:33:02 I'm not prejudiced but I really believe this is the most
10:33:05 important of all the volunteer citizens boards.
10:33:08 We are charged with a fiduciary duty to protect our national
10:33:13 landmark, and I take that very seriously.
10:33:17 I'm probably known as the Jan Platt of the barrio for voting
10:33:21 no for almost every demolition that has ever come before us.
10:33:25 I think the only demolition that has not been approved by
10:33:29 the BLC has been the Ferlita macaroni factory.
10:33:33 And I feel like I'm qualified.
10:33:36 Obviously, my family came from Sicily in 1906.
10:33:40 I moved from Bayshore, and I live and reside and have my
10:33:43 business, the monument company on fourth Avenue in historic
10:33:48 Ybor City.
10:33:49 But I do call on council to please, please, to read the
10:33:56 Some people, I found in the past, are trying to fill up
10:34:00 resumés and don't read the guideline book, don't fill the
10:34:07 cards they need to get a demolition, and this is so
10:34:10 important that every historic structure that we lose can
10:34:12 never be replaced.
10:34:14 And we lost some to fire, and we have lost to S to
10:34:18 irresponsible owners who buy them, let them deteriorate,
10:34:21 collect the rent, drain them and apply for demolition by
10:34:25 So I feel that this is really so important.
10:34:27 Of course, I joke about being drafted.
10:34:32 I fight passionately for Ybor City.
10:34:35 And I am pleased if you would accept me as a second term.
10:34:37 Thank you.
10:34:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
10:34:39 And this young lady cost me $600.
10:34:46 [ Laughter ]
10:34:46 Ms. Capin.
10:34:50 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Just one question, Ms. Cosentino.
10:34:53 I was looking at your application.
10:34:55 You did not fill in the rate.
10:34:59 You did not fill in rates.
10:35:02 Was that on purpose or just an oversight?
10:35:07 It's an oversight?
10:35:09 I thought maybe there was something other than that.
10:35:12 >> No.
10:35:14 But you know what?
10:35:15 I'm Sicilian.
10:35:17 Some say you are has panic and others say you are other and
10:35:21 I didn't know what I was.
10:35:24 [ Laughter ]
10:35:26 >>FRANK REDDICK: Move to reappoint.
10:35:27 >>HARRY COHEN: Second.
10:35:29 >> Motion by Mr. Reddick, second by Mr. Cohen.
10:35:33 All in favor of that motion please signify by saying aye.
10:35:36 Opposed nay.
10:35:37 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:35:39 >>LISA MONTELIONE: May I make a comment before we move?
10:35:43 From the backup material we were given, I count five vacant
10:35:53 From the Ybor City Chamber of Commerce, we have a vacancy
10:35:56 due to term limits.
10:36:00 From the third one on the list says say can't due to lack of
10:36:04 participation, and that's an alternate position.
10:36:08 And those will be readvertised.
10:36:10 And then on the mayoral appointments, there seemed to be
10:36:14 three also vacant positions from the mayoral appointments.
10:36:22 So I would urge that we let the mayor's staff know that we
10:36:27 need to have three appointments from the mayor's office for
10:36:31 this board, and that we are readvertising, so anyone out
10:36:35 there who is interested in serving their city, especially if
10:36:40 they are residents, or very actively involved in the Ybor
10:36:47 Chamber of Commerce, that they apply to serve.
10:36:51 I don't like having vacant positions on citizens boards,
10:36:54 especially as Ms. Costantino pointed out how important this
10:36:58 one is.
10:36:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
10:37:01 Yes, ma'am?
10:37:04 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Going back to item 59, the three
10:37:06 individuals selected for the Architectural Review Commission
10:37:11 include Eisenfeld, Peter Carlin and Cara Davis.
10:37:22 Thank you.
10:37:26 Moving on to item number 61.
10:37:31 I would like to make a motion to appoint the three
10:37:34 applicants who were successful in receiving the confidence
10:37:39 of this body to the Architectural Review Commission.
10:37:44 >>HARRY COHEN: Second.
10:37:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Seconded by Mr. Cohen.
10:37:47 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
10:37:50 Opposed nay.
10:37:51 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:37:52 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Moving on to item number 61, Code
10:37:58 Enforcement Board, we have one person available and one
10:38:02 applicant, Joe Caimano.
10:38:10 He's not here.
10:38:14 >>HARRY COHEN: Move the appointment.
10:38:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a second by Mr. Reddick on a close
10:38:23 vote with Mrs. Capin.
10:38:25 All in favor?
10:38:29 6 to 1.
10:38:30 >> Montelione voting no.
10:38:32 >>LISA MONTELIONE: If I may.
10:38:33 I believe when you are a prerequisite is to be here and to
10:38:39 be interviewed for that job, or at least show that you have
10:38:45 the idea that you want to be present and accounted for when
10:38:48 your job is coming up for renewal.
10:38:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
10:38:51 Ms. Mulhern.
10:38:52 >>MARY MULHERN: I would just like to say that we are lucky
10:38:55 to get volunteers to do this.
10:38:57 It's not a job.
10:38:58 It's a volunteer opportunity.
10:39:00 And these are professionals who -- this particular person I
10:39:06 don't know is an attorney.
10:39:08 He may not have been able to be here today.
10:39:10 So I thank him for applying.
10:39:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you all very much.
10:39:14 Anyone else?
10:39:14 Continue, please.
10:39:15 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Item number 62, the enterprise
10:39:21 Development agency.
10:39:22 We have four positions and five applicants.
10:39:33 And this is for a four-year term.
10:39:35 We have two incumbents.
10:39:37 And you have a ballot.
10:39:39 Let me get that to you.
10:39:46 The individual include Lequita Armstrong, Evangeline Best,
10:40:08 Clinton Parker Johnston, Juan Davis, and Lance L. Morley.
10:40:14 Is he here?
10:40:30 >> My name is Clinton Johnston.
10:40:33 I first came to the Tampa Bay area in 1989.
10:40:38 I began in public service as a Coast Guard officer here
10:40:43 based in Tampa Bay, since that time had the opportunity to
10:40:44 travel, live in a lot of interesting cities and face
10:40:44 interesting challenges, such as New York, Chicago, D.C, New
10:40:53 Delhi, Port au Prince, Haiti and places like.
10:40:57 One of the things that I noticed that separates surviving
10:41:01 cities from thriving cities is the way in which the people
10:41:04 that are fortunate and you take care of those who are less
10:41:10 fortunate and try to bring them along.
10:41:13 I have degrees from Coast Guard Academy, bachelor of science
10:41:13 in government, a master of arts in Latin American economics
10:41:17 from NYU, law degree from Harvard and most recently master
10:41:20 of science and finance from university of Tampa.
10:41:26 So with that kind of inquisitive background on education, I
10:41:30 have always been a spectator of what's going on in the
10:41:33 cities around me.
10:41:33 However, I never settled down anywhere until I came back to
10:41:36 the United States in 2008 and having had a great experience
10:41:38 here as a young adult, decided this was the place I want to
10:41:42 settle down, and for the first time now have started to
10:41:46 become involved in the community and purchased my first home
10:41:49 here in Tampa last year, and view this as an opportunity to
10:41:56 try to help make Tampa one of the cities that thrives rather
10:41:59 than a city that survives.
10:42:01 The reason that I am particularly interested in serving in
10:42:03 this capacity is that nine months ago I took a position with
10:42:07 the property management company named Investa Homes which
10:42:09 was a start-up company, about the 40th employee, and
10:42:14 it's a property management company that manages workforce
10:42:16 housing throughout the State of Florida, with a large
10:42:20 representation within Hillsborough County, and like many
10:42:23 people, I drove right through a lot of parts of the city and
10:42:26 paid no attention whatsoever.
10:42:27 I saw the fast food restaurants and store fronts, and
10:42:34 started interacting with residents and people who live and
10:42:39 work in and around enterprise development zones that I
10:42:42 really understood the situation, and began investigating
10:42:46 what the zones were, and see them as a great opportunity for
10:42:49 the city to make sure we do in fact bring everyone along
10:42:52 with us as we grow and thrive.
10:42:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Any questions by council members?
10:43:01 One question in my mind.
10:43:02 You said you moved to the Tampa Bay area.
10:43:04 What part of the Tampa area did you move into?
10:43:06 >> I first lived in St. Petersburg from 1989 to 1991 and
10:43:10 then I moved in 2008 I moved to Palm Harbor, and in 2011 I
10:43:16 moved into South Tampa.
10:43:19 That's where I bought my first home.
10:43:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much, sir.
10:43:22 Next, please.
10:43:23 >> Good morning, council.
10:43:27 My name is Lance L. Morley. I'm originally from
10:43:33 Jacksonville, Florida.
10:43:34 That's write was born and raised.
10:43:37 Presently I have been living in the Tampa Bay area since
10:43:39 August 2009.
10:43:40 Currently, I am a practicing attorney in the area.
10:43:43 I received my B.S. degree from the University of Florida.
10:43:47 I graduated in 2005.
10:43:49 I received my juris doctorate from Florida A&M university
10:43:53 College of Law where I graduated in 2008.
10:43:58 Again, I have been living in Tampa now for over three years.
10:44:01 I think the enterprise zone agency would be a fantastic
10:44:04 opportunity for me as an individual to become involved with
10:44:08 my community, as well benefit the agency as a whole.
10:44:13 I think it's important to note that in reviewing the agency
10:44:18 and its purpose, I think it is a very good for the city.
10:44:24 I believe that Tampa is full of potential.
10:44:26 I think a city that has three professional athletic teams on
10:44:32 the coast as well as a city that can definitely thrive, and
10:44:35 I believe the agency supports that.
10:44:37 That goal as well.
10:44:40 I thank you all for giving me the opportunity to speak this
10:44:43 Thank you.
10:44:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Any questions by council members?
10:44:46 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I have one, sir.
10:44:48 I'm looking at your application.
10:44:54 Wait, no.
10:44:55 I'm sorry.
10:44:56 Wrong page.
10:44:59 My copies are double sided.
10:45:02 Another page that looked like it was part of yours but it's
10:45:05 Thank you.
10:45:05 I'm sorry.
10:45:06 >>> Thank you all.
10:45:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: And you mentioned Tampa Bay area.
10:45:10 What about the City of Tampa?
10:45:12 >> I live at 4221 Spruce in Westshore right across from
10:45:18 international mall.
10:45:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
10:45:24 Okay, thank you.
10:45:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Vote here for four applicants.
10:45:39 >> Johnson, enterprise zone, coordinator for the city.
10:45:44 Ms. Lequita Armstrong, one of your applicants, is also our
10:45:48 currents chairperson of the agency.
10:45:50 She wanted to be here this morning, but she's working on
10:45:54 transitioning some of her office duties into a new I.T.
10:46:01 She wanted to be here.
10:46:05 >> Thank you very much, sir.
10:46:06 Yes, ma'am.
10:46:06 >>MARY MULHERN: Madam clerk, I'm missing the application
10:46:14 for Mr. Morley.
10:46:19 Do you have a copy of that?
10:46:20 >> I'm also missing the application.
10:46:35 >>HARRY COHEN: I thought there were only four applicants
10:46:37 for this position.
10:46:38 That's what I was under the impression of.
10:46:40 Prior to coming in today.
10:46:53 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: If you would like to hold that, and
10:46:56 we'll get that to you.
10:46:57 Let's move on to historic preservation, if we can.
10:47:03 We have one position and one applicant.
10:47:17 O'sullivan, if she's here.
10:47:21 >> Good morning.
10:47:27 My name is Rebecca O'Sullivan, and I have applied for the
10:47:30 archaeology position on the Historic Preservation Commission
10:47:33 First let me tell you a little about myself.
10:47:35 I'm a Florida native.
10:47:36 I grew up in south Florida and have lived in the Tampa area
10:47:39 for the past six years.
10:47:41 I received my BA in anthropology from the University of
10:47:45 Florida in 2002, where I also interned at the Florida museum
10:47:49 of natural history and the historical archaeology collection
10:47:56 I graduated from the University of South Florida with my
10:47:58 masters degree in applied anthropology with a concentration
10:48:01 in cultural resource management.
10:48:03 My thesis focused on plantation beings foundations and
10:48:09 landscape features near Daytona, so that park rangers at the
10:48:12 site could better manage and preserve them.
10:48:15 USF archaeology program is unique, in training
10:48:20 archaeologists do better educate the public about the
10:48:23 archaeological resources in their communities and how to
10:48:25 preserve them.
10:48:28 If I were fortunate enough to be appointed to the HPC, I
10:48:31 would be able to apply my knowledge not only as
10:48:33 archaeologist of the Tampa area but himself what I learned
10:48:36 about preservation laws and archaeological practice in order
10:48:39 to better preserve and promote Tampa's rich heritage.
10:48:42 I currently work as the outreach coordinator for the Florida
10:48:45 public archaeology network at USF.
10:48:49 As part of my job, I wish to educate people of all ages
10:48:53 about the importance of archaeology in general, but also
10:48:56 about the archaeology and history that remains in our own
10:49:01 backyard N.my role as outreach coordinator I have had a role
10:49:04 in several excavations in the Tampa Bay area including one
10:49:07 in Ybor City at the Ybor City park.
10:49:12 That project was not only what we can learn about past
10:49:14 people, see what we you ever cover, but also engage area
10:49:19 residents about the history beneath the streets.
10:49:21 One of the things I love about Tampa is the diverse history
10:49:24 and heritage of the area, not just historically but also
10:49:26 going back to prehistoric times.
10:49:29 I'm interested in serving on the HPC because I would like
10:49:32 the chance to apply my knowledge and skills in archaeology
10:49:35 in a way that can be beneficial and make life a little
10:49:38 better for people who live in Tampa today.
10:49:40 Archaeology just like historic structures can add to the
10:49:43 quality of life in an area especially when people are
10:49:46 educated about its importance and current residents.
10:49:52 Thank you for your time.
10:49:55 >> Move the appointment.
10:49:56 >> Second.
10:49:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mr. Suarez to move the
10:49:59 Seconded by Mrs. Montelione.
10:50:01 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
10:50:04 Opposed nay.
10:50:05 Motion passes unanimously.
10:50:06 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Thank you.
10:50:09 The next item would be item number 64, the Variance Review
10:50:16 We have one position and one applicant, Dr. Susan Long.
10:50:23 >> I'm Susan Long.
10:50:35 I have applied to be on the VRB.
10:50:39 I have been on code enforcement and public Nuisance
10:50:41 Abatement Board for three years.
10:50:43 I was chair of public Nuisance Abatement Board until about a
10:50:46 month ago.
10:50:47 I would like to resign from those and go on to the VRB.
10:50:51 I have been very active in Seminole Heights.
10:50:52 I have assisted with the organizing the Taste of the
10:50:56 I have been co-chair of the home tour.
10:50:58 I have raised funds for the Corporal Roberts memorial, the
10:51:01 Jane Castor education fund, Seminole Heights crime watch,
10:51:04 Seminole Heights community gardens, Heaven Sent, which is a
10:51:07 start-up charity providing free housing for the families of
10:51:11 transplant patients, and others.
10:51:14 I'm a founding member of the Seminole Heights foundation
10:51:16 that provides charitable assistance to organizations
10:51:19 scattered throughout Seminole Heights and currently working
10:51:22 with "Paint Your Heart Out" Tampa.
10:51:24 I was both president and treasurer of the Old Seminole
10:51:26 Heights neighborhood association.
10:51:28 I was also a member of the Seminole Heights land use
10:51:31 committee for numerous years and currently attend the
10:51:35 Seminole Heights land use meetings to understand the current
10:51:38 issues with which it is dealing.
10:51:41 The Seminole Heights land use committee is for all Seminole
10:51:45 Heights, not just old Seminole Heights.
10:51:47 The land use committee deals with variance requests, wet
10:51:51 zonings, et cetera, that are applied for in Seminole
10:51:54 In addition, I am currently president of the Business Guild
10:51:57 of Seminole Heights, BGOSH, and between the Bgosh members
10:52:05 and the city.
10:52:05 This includes assisting member businesses who ask with what
10:52:09 their rezoning, sign applications, et cetera.
10:52:12 I work hard for the organizations I work for including the
10:52:15 City of Tampa.
10:52:18 Most of you have seen me at City Council probably more
10:52:21 orphan than you want to.
10:52:22 I do think it's important for residents to become involved
10:52:25 with their city and county government organizations.
10:52:28 I follow various review boards, and consistently attend
10:52:32 meetings or watch it on TV, depending upon which my schedule
10:52:38 I follow most of the codes that VRB deals with and I believe
10:52:41 I have a better understanding of those codes than most
10:52:44 You appreciate your support for my application.
10:52:46 Thank you.
10:52:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
10:52:51 I have a motion to approve --
10:52:58 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I was asking Mr. Shelby while she was
10:53:01 talking if she was going to resign from code enforcement.
10:53:04 If we do that, we are going to have to find someone else who
10:53:07 was a candidate in the last election to replace her because
10:53:10 we have about seven.
10:53:12 I want to make sure we are clear on that so that people know
10:53:15 that she's not going to be on the Code Enforcement Board if
10:53:18 she takes the VRB position.
10:53:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
10:53:21 I have a motion by Mr. Reddick for approval, seconded by
10:53:26 Mrs. Montelione on item 64 to the Variance Review Board of
10:53:30 Mrs. Long.
10:53:31 All in favor of that motion?
10:53:34 The ayes have it unanimously.
10:53:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Mr. Chairman, I had an opportunity to talk
10:53:38 with Mr. Territo about this, and I believe that Mrs. Long,
10:53:43 by the appointment to this position, automatically, your
10:53:48 effective date of reservation is today then.
10:53:50 >> I don't have to send a letter then?
10:53:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: My suggestion is you do, but by operation
10:53:57 of law, by your appointment today, that you have in fact
10:54:02 resigned from the other board.
10:54:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Congratulations on your victory.
10:54:07 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Council, if we can hold number 62
10:54:11 while we get the applications, and you can move on.
10:54:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Item number 65 is the gentleman, Greg
10:54:25 >> Good morning.
10:54:29 Greg Bayor, Parks and Recreation Director.
10:54:33 You have in your hand the packet, a quick highlight.
10:54:37 The first page covers the tree trust fund which was
10:54:41 1,244,000 with a balance of 303,000.
10:54:45 The second page details all the trees over in Ybor City and
10:54:52 the reasons they were removed are listed there.
10:54:55 I would like to add that we are working with the Barrio and
10:55:01 Vince Pardo.
10:55:02 We did identify seven spots that we could not put trees back
10:55:06 due to overhead balconies or the sidewalk was too narrow
10:55:10 because of ADA requirements attached to it.
10:55:13 And the outcome of this, our department is reviewing our
10:55:19 forms and will include who we I know, when we notify and how
10:55:23 we want to process the applications.
10:55:25 A couple other pieces of information, because I know the
10:55:28 concern was the olive trees.
10:55:30 We did further research on that.
10:55:34 They have 450 continuous ours, and we don't expect that to
10:55:37 happen in Tampa.
10:55:38 And I believe that pretty much covers the highlights of the
10:55:43 tree board.
10:55:44 I can give you an update on Ybor.
10:55:47 We finished November 7th.
10:55:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Any further questions by council members?
10:55:54 Mrs. Mulhern?
10:55:56 >>MARY MULHERN: Mr. Bayor, is the breakdown in here -- how
10:56:04 much of the tree trust fund money was spent on the trees in
10:56:18 Or slated to be spent?
10:56:20 >> It's actually in the report.
10:56:25 You will see the removal cost is 40,800, and total cost is
10:56:34 >> You used the tree fund even for the removal of the
10:56:37 existing trees?
10:56:40 >> Yes.
10:56:44 >>MARY MULHERN: That's where I have a -- that's what I have
10:56:49 a problem with.
10:56:52 The idea that we are using the tree trust fund to
10:56:55 actually -- we are getting a zero balance out of spending, a
10:57:03 9th or 10th of our whole trust fund in Ybor.
10:57:06 So, you know, the trees were cut down before a lot of the
10:57:11 neighbors, the residents, and certainly before council knew
10:57:17 that was going to happen.
10:57:18 So I'm just hoping that in the future, I want some
10:57:22 assurances that isn't going to happen again, and also I
10:57:25 think we really need to think about whether we want to spend
10:57:31 our tree trust fund on cutting down and row placing trees
10:57:37 anywhere in the city when we could be adding to the net
10:57:41 number of trees in the city.
10:57:44 So that's my big concern about all of this.
10:57:46 And I just wanted to put it out there.
10:57:49 And I appreciate how forthcoming you have been since this
10:57:54 problem, but let's hope that we know about it beforehand.
10:58:02 I guess I would ask you before any other major number of
10:58:06 trees are cut down that we would get a report about it.
10:58:10 >> Very good.
10:58:18 >>MARY MULHERN: Plus we need funds in park and recreation.
10:58:22 I appreciate it.
10:58:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mrs. Montelione.
10:58:24 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
10:58:25 I echo the concern of Councilwoman Mulhern being the vice
10:58:31 chair of the parks and recreation, that none of us were
10:58:43 contacted and we like to know about things before they show
10:58:48 up in the newspaper.
10:58:49 So the other concern is, and it remains a concern of mine,
10:58:53 that we think about how we go about removal and replacement
10:59:03 of trees, the last time that the character of Ybor City is
10:59:09 one that has helped over time, and having the variety of
10:59:15 ages of trees would be to the environment of Ybor City.
10:59:20 It would not maybe be the environment of an area that is a
10:59:26 planned, gated community like Hunter's green, where you have
10:59:30 nice uniform trees, that fit into a character.
10:59:36 Of the community.
10:59:37 So as the crape myrtles are very high maintenance trees.
10:59:46 Very high maintenance trees.
10:59:47 >> If you look on our report, we will no longer be doing
10:59:51 that type of maintenance on crape myrtles.
10:59:53 They will be planned ant left alone.
10:59:55 >> I'm sorry, you are really tall.
10:59:58 So you can -- there you go.
11:00:00 >> If you look in the report, we have detailed -- that is
11:00:04 the practice of the former practice of how crape myrtles
11:00:09 were addressed.
11:00:10 And so these trees are being planted and other than
11:00:13 emergency maintenance, he will have no annual maintenance.
11:00:20 >> It's still going to be pedals on trees and creating a
11:00:25 little bit of a general mess when they drop flowers.
11:00:28 So being conscious of that, I say they are pretty, but I
11:00:35 don't think that they are appropriate.
11:00:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Any other council members?
11:00:41 Ms. Capin?
11:00:45 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I just want to say that I echo with what my
11:00:47 fellow council members said, but more importantly, I
11:00:50 understand this is an administrative function, and we really
11:00:55 are not interested in micromanaging.
11:00:57 But since we have to answer to constituents and they call us
11:01:01 first rather than -- they may be calling the mayor's office,
11:01:05 but I know we get calls about something that we need to be
11:01:10 And I agree that at least the chair of each one of the
11:01:18 departments should be notified, and then that chair could
11:01:21 notify the rest of us if that would make it easier to let us
11:01:24 know of something of this magnitude.
11:01:30 So I appreciate it again you coming forth.
11:01:35 But I just want to reiterate, micromanaging is not something
11:01:39 that I particularly am interested in.
11:01:42 I understand that this is an administrative.
11:01:45 But, again, we have to answer to constituents, and we need
11:01:49 to have the information beforehand.
11:01:51 It would be very helpful if that moving forward we would
11:01:56 have that.
11:01:58 Thank you.
11:01:58 >> I concur.
11:02:00 And you will see we will be very proactive by reaching out
11:02:03 and scheduling monthly meetings with the chair, vice chair,
11:02:08 and others.
11:02:10 >> Mr. Bayor sits as ex-officio on a commit that I sit on
11:02:18 and I must say he has been very proactive in that capacity,
11:02:21 and I expect going forward that this is exactly what is
11:02:23 going to happen.
11:02:24 I thank you for being here.
11:02:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much, sir.
11:02:31 Clerk, we are ready for 62.
11:02:35 That's a retirement age where you get Social Security.
11:02:47 Do we have a hanging chad?
11:03:17 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: The four individuals selected for
11:03:20 the enterprise zone development agency include Lequita
11:03:26 Armstrong, Evangeline Bess, Clinton Parker Johnston, and
11:03:31 lance L. Morley.
11:03:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Congratulations, all four of you.
11:03:37 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Move the appointment of the individuals
11:03:40 selected to the board.
11:03:42 >> Second.
11:03:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion for those four
11:03:45 individuals selected by this council to the board by Mrs.
11:03:47 Montelione, seconded by Mr. Suarez.
11:03:50 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying aye.
11:03:52 Opposed nay.
11:03:53 The ayes have it unanimously.
11:03:54 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Congratulations, gentlemen.
11:03:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: We go now to item number 66, I believe.
11:04:04 >> Santiago Corrada, chief of staff, here on item 66.
11:04:10 I believe you received some information from me earlier in
11:04:13 the week.
11:04:13 If you need extra copies, I do have those.
11:04:16 On item 66, I want to answer the question first.
11:04:20 Is it a publicly owned park?
11:04:22 It is a publicly owned and dedicated park conveyed to the
11:04:27 City of Tampa on or about May 30th of 1972 by the
11:04:31 university of Tampa.
11:04:32 And I believe I reference that in the memo pursuant to a
11:04:37 simple deed.
11:04:38 No not for profit or nonprofit controlled the fees when in
11:04:43 the public areas of the park which is almost the entire
11:04:47 I do have an aerial of the entire map that I will put on the
11:04:52 Elmo, just so that you have an understanding.
11:04:56 Many of you have been in the park.
11:04:57 You know how large the park is.
11:05:01 In the information I provided, I went back and read through
11:05:05 all of the agreements, contracts, that are in place at the
11:05:10 The reason that I am reporting, and now Mr. Bayor because
11:05:14 many of these agreements and contracts predate Mr. Bayor and
11:05:18 sometimes predate my tenure here at the city.
11:05:21 As you can see, and if you don't have that information I
11:05:24 will be glad to pass it around again.
11:05:26 In the summary of the lease agreements, there are four
11:05:29 institutions that provide services in the park there is a
11:05:34 lease agreement that has been amended several times by Tampa
11:05:37 City Council.
11:05:37 They were brought before, not just this sitting council but
11:05:43 prior sitting councils that date back to 2003.
11:05:45 One is with the Stewart foundation, to provide a facility
11:05:50 for water safety, rowing, water sports, and to also
11:05:55 construct the parks and rec facility on-site.
11:05:58 The second agreement exists with the girls and boys club
11:06:01 that was referenced this morning by some of the speakers to
11:06:03 build a facility for the Boys and Girls Club, and use one of
11:06:07 the ball field there at the park on a priority basis.
11:06:11 We have a long standing contract and easement agreements
11:06:14 with Tampa prep that goes back to 2001 to use some of the
11:06:20 field there and the parking and in turn the city has an
11:06:23 agreements to build the field before Tampa prep.
11:06:26 The last agreement was with EPC of Hillsborough County for
11:06:30 that agency to put in an ambient air quality piece of
11:06:34 equipment that they have yet to put in.
11:06:36 That one came before City Council in 2012.
11:06:39 I did listen to the meeting this morning and heard the
11:06:45 neighbors of the park.
11:06:46 And I can assure you as we have always done, whenever we
11:06:49 have gone in to master plan, renovate, retrofit a park, that
11:06:54 there will be plenty of opportunities for the public to
11:06:56 become engaged.
11:06:57 We have a close relationship, working relationship with many
11:07:02 of the speakers this morning, if not all, and to my
11:07:05 knowledge -- and I have been here now almost nine years --
11:07:08 we have never gone in and master planned or changed a park
11:07:11 without a lot of public input and without this council and
11:07:15 any other council being involved in the ultimate contract
11:07:19 for any renovations or improvements.
11:07:22 If I can direct your attention to the Elmo, one of the
11:07:27 improvements we would like to see in the future is the
11:07:30 reorientation of Laurel.
11:07:31 Since Laurel is that curved road that bifurcates the park.
11:07:36 And it would add to the usable space of the park without a
11:07:40 major roadway going through it.
11:07:43 And of course there would be lots of public input as well as
11:07:47 conversations with this sitting council regarding any
11:07:50 reorientations of that road.
11:07:52 But whenever we have gone into modify any park, it's been to
11:07:58 add amenities to improve the facilities, and there are many
11:08:02 examples that I could bring to your attention where that has
11:08:06 occurred most significantly and notably was Curtis Hixon
11:08:11 waterfront park where that park has become very, very
11:08:13 different than what it used to be and the increased uses.
11:08:17 I'm here to answer any of your questions.
11:08:19 I hope the information I provide to you was helpful.
11:08:22 I was trying to save you a lot of time everything to go back
11:08:25 and pull ordinances and agreements because all of them war
11:08:28 proved by Tampa City Council.
11:08:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mrs. Mulhern.
11:08:31 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
11:08:33 It looks like your aerial is upside down.
11:08:36 >> I can reorient it.
11:08:40 >> Yes, because I need to know north and south.
11:08:42 That's better.
11:08:44 My question is, could you address the subject that came up?
11:08:48 Because I didn't see this in the paper here, anything about
11:08:52 a possible restaurant?
11:08:53 >> I believe they were referencing an article that was in
11:08:56 the paper where the mayor said that a possible new amenity
11:08:59 in this park might be a restaurant.
11:09:01 And I believe it been taken and folks have run with it to
11:09:07 say that there is permanently going to be a restaurant in
11:09:11 I believe it was mentioned that there might be.
11:09:13 And we have added some eating facilities to other parks that
11:09:17 have increased usage even by those that reside close to
11:09:20 those parks.
11:09:21 But I believe it was just a "perhaps" there may be a new
11:09:25 amenity in that park that could be a restaurant.
11:09:27 >> Is there any RFP in process for this?
11:09:33 Because that's one of the things that we don't necessarily
11:09:35 know about before they go out.
11:09:36 >> No, you would have been involved in any contract for an
11:09:42 RFP to bring on anyone.
11:09:44 We had a planning effort many, many years ago, almost when I
11:09:49 first arrived here, about this park, and members of the
11:09:51 community were engaged.
11:09:54 We are looking at that.
11:09:54 But we have not started any planning effort to redesign this
11:09:59 park or to modify this park.
11:10:01 And again, usually when we contract we have an RFP, we bring
11:10:05 a contract to City Council.
11:10:06 There is a huge public process associated with that, with
11:10:09 that contract.
11:10:11 >>MARY MULHERN: Before we are asked to approve it.
11:10:13 But we are not asked to approve the RFP.
11:10:16 >> We don't have an RFP on the street right now for any
11:10:18 planning effort for Julian lane waterfront park.
11:10:23 And I can check that but I am almost 100 percent certain
11:10:27 that there is not.
11:10:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Reddick and then Mrs. Capin.
11:10:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: Let me follow up to what Councilwoman
11:10:35 Mulhern is talking about. There's been a huge discussion,
11:10:38 and the mayor has spoken openly with discussion with the
11:10:44 Housing Authority, and the City of Tampa, about the
11:10:47 riverfront, that they were looking at having a new
11:10:54 development plan, they are looking at on the weather bank of
11:10:58 the river, putting in there a restaurant, upscale
11:11:02 restaurant, a retail shop.
11:11:06 It's open discussion.
11:11:07 This is nothing -- there's been an article written about it
11:11:13 in the newspaper that these people that came this morning
11:11:18 was referencing that, because it was appearing in the
11:11:21 And it's an open discussion in West Tampa, the Housing
11:11:29 They have put out an RFP for the development which they are
11:11:33 going to vote on, and this month in the Housing Authority
11:11:36 board meeting on the new development.
11:11:38 So it's already planned.
11:11:42 Part of this comes from this urban planning that was here,
11:11:49 where they said they would redevelop the waterfront.
11:11:53 I just want to say that.
11:12:00 Who is the Stewart foundation?
11:12:01 >> The Stewart foundation is a not-for-profit organization
11:12:04 that has had an agreement with the city dating back to 2003,
11:12:08 as I provided, and they provide -- they are really into
11:12:11 water sports, water safety, and again they entered into that
11:12:16 agreement with the city which was amended on two different
11:12:19 occasions for them to be able to establish a rowing water
11:12:24 sports facility in Julian B. lane waterfront park, and I am
11:12:29 pretty certain that at the time this agreement came to City
11:12:31 Council, there was a lot of discussion with the
11:12:33 I want to go back just for clarity sake.
11:12:37 We have to be very careful that we don't confuse a lot of
11:12:40 different things, Councilman.
11:12:42 You referenced the Urban Land Institute study of the area.
11:12:46 You have referenced envision is a larger planning effort,
11:12:52 the Tampa Housing Authority that has put out for North
11:12:55 Boulevard homes.
11:12:56 Those indirectly may talk about the park, but as far as a
11:12:59 planning effort to redevelop Julian B. lane Riverfront Park,
11:13:04 that is not going on at this point.
11:13:06 So I just want to make that very, very clear, because there
11:13:09 are a number of large-scale planning efforts that are going
11:13:12 on, but not specifically to this park.
11:13:16 Obviously the park is in the area of study.
11:13:17 And obviously folks have already even weighed in on what
11:13:21 that park might become.
11:13:22 But as far as specifically modifying, changing that park, we
11:13:26 are not there yet.
11:13:27 >> Have you read the mayor's comment?
11:13:31 >> I talk to him just about every day.
11:13:33 >> Did you read his comment?
11:13:35 >> I read his comment.
11:13:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: And that's where the retail shop was
11:13:40 >> I don't mean to be argumentative because you know how
11:13:45 much I respect you, but tell you that to my knowledge I have
11:13:48 not heard retail and restaurant specifically being planned
11:13:52 for this park right now.
11:13:55 It could be a possible amenity one day?
11:13:58 It could be planned some day?
11:13:59 But not after a lot of deliberation with the public, a lot
11:14:02 of conversation, and we are not there yet.
11:14:05 We have to be careful that things are not -- we don't set
11:14:08 things on fire that are not on fire, and this is one that
11:14:11 has become on fire when there really hasn't been a need to
11:14:14 get on fire.
11:14:15 >>FRANK REDDICK: Well, it would not be even any smoke if
11:14:19 there was not fire by the person in the office over there.
11:14:24 That's where that came from.
11:14:25 So let's be clear on that.
11:14:26 >>> Okay.
11:14:29 >>FRANK REDDICK: But let me ask you this question.
11:14:33 Has the Stewart foundation, they have a 25-year agreement
11:14:36 for one dollar a year.
11:14:39 Have they built that boat house yet?
11:14:41 >> The boat house?
11:14:43 What I believe is in place, Councilman, is a temporary boat
11:14:46 That is what I believe is in place.
11:14:48 Have they built a permanent structure with all of the
11:14:52 amenities that were contemplated in the agreement?
11:14:55 But there is a temporary boat house.
11:14:57 They have had events in the park.
11:14:59 They have been an active partner as far as some of the
11:15:03 events that they put on, some of the services they have
11:15:07 But as far as the construction of a permanent water sport
11:15:10 boat house facility, the answer is no.
11:15:12 They have a temporary facility.
11:15:13 >> Okay.
11:15:16 Now, I'm reading this from the documents that you sent us.
11:15:22 The effective date of this agreement started 2003, like you
11:15:25 said, there has been some adjustment.
11:15:29 Who monitors this, these agreements?
11:15:33 >>> Normally the agreement is monitored by the department
11:15:37 that is affected by the agreement and real estate jointly.
11:15:41 And sometimes even legal is involved in those reviews.
11:15:44 >> Has there been a time limit on when they can supposedly
11:15:51 construct this boat house?
11:15:52 >> There were dates set out in the agreement and in the
11:15:56 amendments to the agreements.
11:15:57 Yes, there were.
11:15:58 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
11:16:02 And when would that be?
11:16:04 Because I know they have 25 years.
11:16:07 According to this document, they are supposed to have done
11:16:11 this within so many years, the first three or four years.
11:16:14 >>> That's correct.
11:16:15 The last amended agreement, which was amended in 2007, the
11:16:20 terms were within four years of the amended lease date that
11:16:24 some of those facilities were to be built, and obviously
11:16:27 they have not been.
11:16:28 >>FRANK REDDICK: Let me ask you this on the question, and
11:16:31 that's what you originally stated when you first came on at
11:16:34 the start of your comments about the program part of it.
11:16:40 If individuals are out there now that ho want to play on
11:16:43 that basketball court and Tampa prep have their students out
11:16:46 there playing, who has right to use that court?
11:16:51 >> For the basketball courts, I do not believe the
11:16:53 basketball courts are contemplated in the agreement with
11:16:56 Tampa prep.
11:16:57 What is contemplated in the agreement with Tampa prep are
11:17:00 the ball fields.
11:17:01 So if Tampa prep were out there playing basketball on the
11:17:05 courts, and the public needs to use the courts, I believe
11:17:08 the public would have a priority.
11:17:11 >> Would that be the same with the ball fields?
11:17:15 >> With the ball fields, if it's contemplated in the
11:17:17 agreement, sir, that they use those ball field seasonally
11:17:21 for a certain time period, then Tampa prep would have the
11:17:24 priority to use the ball field.
11:17:25 >> All right.
11:17:26 And that's the problem I have, and the problem the residents
11:17:32 have, because if this is still a public facility, and you
11:17:38 have got an agreement where you allow a private entity have
11:17:41 priority over public facility, then that's a problem.
11:17:47 If you were out by there today, you will see kids out there
11:17:53 playing on the tennis courts, you see kids out there on the
11:18:00 softball field, and if they would have priority over that
11:18:07 park when it's a public park, then the public has been
11:18:14 denied their due right to participant, unless you come
11:18:17 back -- to participate unless you come back with a certain
11:18:21 So it cannot be a full public park if you had agreement that
11:18:24 they can go out there and they have priority over certain
11:18:27 sections of the park.
11:18:28 >>> Councilman, I am not going to answer right or wrong on
11:18:32 that only because these agreements were brought to a prior
11:18:35 City Council for approval.
11:18:37 And I can tell you that this is not unusual.
11:18:39 We have agreements with not for profits and other entities
11:18:43 to use our parks and rec facilities on priority basis and
11:18:47 those are brought before City Councils for approval.
11:18:49 So is it right or wrong?
11:18:51 I'm not going to answer that.
11:18:52 I am just going to answer that it was done the right way,
11:18:55 brought before City Council, it was approved, and these are
11:18:57 not atypical.
11:18:59 We have agreements with other entities to use our
11:19:02 And that's partnerships and collaboration.
11:19:07 And this has not been an issue for us.
11:19:09 In a one has come to us and said, you know, I could not use
11:19:12 this field because someone else was using it.
11:19:14 They use it during school hours.
11:19:16 They use it during the time when the public is not using the
11:19:18 park as much or as heavily.
11:19:20 So it has not been a problem.
11:19:22 I mean, I'm hearing your concern at this point in time.
11:19:24 But we have, like I said, these agreements city-wide with
11:19:28 lots of facilities.
11:19:29 And when we have those issues brought before us, we try to
11:19:32 work out a compromise and try to fix --
11:19:35 >> Let me wrap up here.
11:19:36 And it goes back to what I heard earlier from a colleague,
11:19:40 and that is, you might not hear, those who have been elected
11:19:49 to represent the people in our community, and that's where
11:19:51 we get the information from.
11:19:53 The final question I have is that -- and I grew up playing
11:20:00 on Riverfront Park down the street from it.
11:20:03 The problem I have, you take a beautiful, beautiful swimming
11:20:08 pool that is out there, and you go about it today, and it's
11:20:13 embarrassing because you see a bunch of row boats lined up
11:20:16 across where there's no pool for kids or anyone in that
11:20:20 community because a bunch of row boats are sitting out
11:20:24 And it's a shame that if this is a city-owned park, if the
11:20:31 city owns this park, and the destruction of a pool, the
11:20:40 destruction of that pool is demoralizing to the neighborhood
11:20:44 with a bunch of row boats, and that they cannot be utilized,
11:20:49 and then finally half of the -- half of the park is given to
11:20:53 a private institution where you have -- whether you have an
11:20:56 agreement or not, doesn't have the right to utilize those
11:21:01 facilities for certain times, and that's probably when the
11:21:05 schools are closed on a weekend, where if I wanted to gout
11:21:10 go out there now, people can't play softball, but Tampa prep
11:21:18 or some other place to utilize that, is a good service to
11:21:23 me, and an agreement to say that Blake high school, rowing
11:21:30 team -- Blake doesn't have a rowing team, and to include
11:21:33 them in the agreement.
11:21:38 I don't know who did it but it was done back in 2003.
11:21:42 And it's a disservice to the people who live in that
11:21:46 community, and no longer utilize that pool.
11:21:49 >>> Mr. Councilman, I don't believe the rowing facility was
11:21:57 the cause of the removal of the pool.
11:21:58 I'm almost certain that it was not.
11:22:00 There were on the factors that led to the removal of that
11:22:03 And again, the public has every right to use this park when
11:22:09 there are issues, and as I have always said, if you receive
11:22:12 issues from your constituents that we can help you to
11:22:14 resolve, and you bring them to our attention, through either
11:22:18 Mr. Baird's attention or my attention, then we will reach
11:22:21 out to those institutions that we have agreements with to
11:22:24 try to reach a resolution to those issues.
11:22:27 So again, we have not had a lot of conflict there with the
11:22:31 institutions that are there, Boys and Girls Club have built
11:22:35 a facility there that service it is public.
11:22:36 There was a lot of public discussion over that facility, and
11:22:40 that facility was built in that park.
11:22:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
11:22:44 Ms. Capin.
11:22:46 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.
11:22:46 What is the acreage of that park?
11:22:55 I'm sorry I didn't look that up.
11:22:56 >> It's approximately 21 acres.
11:23:07 >>YVONNE CAPIN: When you were speaking earlier and you said
11:23:09 amenity to the park, that's the way I understood it.
11:23:12 I also understood that this is possibly in the future.
11:23:19 And so in reference to the smoke, tell me about where I
11:23:27 read, I think, approximately $2 million was being set aside
11:23:31 for future -- for this park.
11:23:33 >>> That's true N.our budget that was approved recently,
11:23:39 there are dollars set aside for future improvements of this
11:23:42 Yes, ma'am.
11:23:44 And, you know, he's the parks and recreation director and
11:23:49 I'm not.
11:23:50 But some of these dollars provide improvements to the
11:23:53 facilities, and if you go back and look at the ordinances in
11:23:57 those agreements, for example, Tampa prep has been a very
11:23:59 active partner in improvements to the field, to the park,
11:24:03 they provide security during the day while they are using
11:24:06 some of the parking spaces.
11:24:07 So all of the partners that we have there have contributed
11:24:11 to that park.
11:24:15 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Okay.
11:24:15 I also wanted to reference the Stewart foundation.
11:24:17 What I am trying to get clear is, this has been in place
11:24:20 since 2003.
11:24:22 The Tampa prep 2001, the boys club 2004,
11:24:28 And the EPC agreement which hasn't taken place, the
11:24:36 agreement -- they haven't installed what they said they were
11:24:41 going to install.
11:24:41 But what I am trying to understand, from what I heard from
11:24:44 the public today is they have concerns.
11:24:48 But obviously they didn't have concerns with this before.
11:24:55 >> Madam Councilwoman, if they did, they would have brought
11:24:57 them up to those councils that were here when those
11:24:59 agreements were approved.
11:25:01 I don't recall.
11:25:04 The date escapes me so I don't recall, for example, the Boys
11:25:07 and Girls Club conversation started before I arrived at the
11:25:10 It was built while I was hear with the city.
11:25:12 The Stewart foundation agreement was in place before I
11:25:14 arrived here.
11:25:15 Some of the amendments occurred after I arrived.
11:25:17 So I don't recall a lot of public outcry when some of those
11:25:21 agreements came before City Council.
11:25:24 My recollection going seven, eight years --
11:25:28 >> I have been here a little over two years, and this is the
11:25:31 But I want to say they have been in place.
11:25:35 And from I understood from the public this morning, they
11:25:37 like what they have there.
11:25:40 And they want input.
11:25:41 That's their concern.
11:25:42 And you can rest assured that from this dais, there
11:25:49 definitely will be, you know -- and I don't doubt that that
11:25:52 would be part of the process.
11:25:54 And if it isn't, we will remained you.
11:25:57 >>> And again, I can assure you that they will be involved.
11:26:00 It will be included.
11:26:01 I'm sure that Greg was taken note of some ho some of those
11:26:06 speakers were so they can be invited when this planning
11:26:09 process starts, whether they are public charrettes or public
11:26:12 I can tell you over the last nine years whenever Weaver gone
11:26:15 in and done a major park improvement, we have had lots of
11:26:18 conversation about what the amenities might be, what they
11:26:20 would be, who would use them, who wouldn't.
11:26:22 I mean, we have done that in every large-scale project I
11:26:26 have been involved in for the last nine years with parks and
11:26:29 rec, and I have had parks and rec under me for the last
11:26:33 almost nine years.
11:26:33 >> I understand.
11:26:34 I also recommended -- thank you to Mr. Bayor for a large
11:26:40 scale event next year in November, which is the earth day,
11:26:46 earth day event, which the University of Tampa has signed
11:26:50 The aquarium is going to take part.
11:26:52 So that agreement hasn't come through.
11:26:56 But the people that are heading this up went to look at the
11:27:05 They were not real familiar with it.
11:27:07 I said, I have been to many events in that park and it's
11:27:09 quite a beautiful place.
11:27:11 And I received an e-mail telling me how wonderful the
11:27:14 location would be for this one-day event over here.
11:27:20 I look forward to all of the west -- I look forward to all
11:27:27 of that is going -- it's exciting that it been going on in
11:27:32 West Tampa and our weather bank.
11:27:34 So thank you for being here.
11:27:36 I just wanted to point that out.
11:27:38 I was trying to clear in my mind they like what's there now,
11:27:42 so I don't understand the issues with the different
11:27:46 So thank you.
11:27:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Suarez.
11:27:49 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mr. Corrada, let me ask you a question.
11:27:51 On these lease agreements, we have long-term leases, Stewart
11:27:55 foundation, Boys and Girls Club.
11:27:57 Can we unilaterally cancel the contract and do whatever we
11:28:01 want there?
11:28:03 >>> In many cases we always include language to that effect.
11:28:06 I would have to go back and look at each one of them. Again
11:28:08 I read them last week before I put the summary together for
11:28:12 I believe we have language that either party with
11:28:15 notification could end the agreement or the contract.
11:28:16 >> So you have an entire Army of lawyers sitting right there
11:28:20 next to you.
11:28:20 So let's see if one of them will come up.
11:28:22 >> A small Army.
11:28:26 >> Rich Rodriguez with the legal department.
11:28:29 As Mr. Corrada said, there is an agreement, for example,
11:28:33 with the Stewart foundation, for some of the language if
11:28:38 they are in default of the agreement, therefore providing an
11:28:42 opportunity to cure that default within 30 days.
11:28:45 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Let me interrupt.
11:28:48 I understand default.
11:28:49 I'm talking about unilaterally being able to cancel a
11:28:52 contract for an entity that is a nonprofit entity that is
11:28:55 only paying a dollar a year, you know.
11:28:57 I know that they put a dollar because they have to have
11:28:59 consideration in a contract.
11:29:02 But what role do we have if we wanted to cancel the contract
11:29:07 with somebody that's there in the park?
11:29:09 Can we do that?
11:29:14 Again, without some other action by the other parties.
11:29:16 >> Again, very agreement specific.
11:29:22 But from what I have seen in these agreements, especially
11:29:25 with construction of a building, we cannot unilaterally
11:29:29 terminate the contract.
11:29:30 >>MIKE SUAREZ: And the reason I ask is because of all the
11:29:34 news reports that have come out in terms of what's going to
11:29:36 happen to Riverfront Park or whether or not there were plans
11:29:38 in place, obviously things like the Boys and Girls Club that
11:29:41 have built a building aren't going to go anywhere anytime
11:29:44 soon, because we have an agreement to 2028.
11:29:48 I think that's important for the public to know that this is
11:29:51 not something that we can do clean slate and just say we are
11:29:54 erasing everything there, we are rebuilding it, with retail
11:29:59 and with restaurants.
11:30:00 And I think not having that emphasis in there, there's a lot
11:30:03 of fear and rumor mongering that goes on, and we have to
11:30:08 listen to it because we need to try to answer to our
11:30:12 I think Mr. Reddick, Ms. Capin, Ms. Mulhern, all the on the
11:30:16 members of the council, we get these kinds of questions all
11:30:18 the time.
11:30:19 And because it's the administrative function especially in
11:30:22 terms of contract management, we don't get to see these all
11:30:25 the time.
11:30:25 And as Mr. Corrada has said, we were not the council at the
11:30:29 time that these agreements were put in place.
11:30:32 So that's why we need to make sure we are very clear as to
11:30:35 what our rights and our responsibilities are in terms of
11:30:38 these parks.
11:30:39 So what you are saying to me -- and I just want to reiterate
11:30:43 it -- you are saying to me say like the Boys and Girls Club
11:30:48 building, because it's been built, we don't have an absolute
11:30:51 right to say you are leaving now, we can do whatever we want
11:30:54 with this park are, or at least that portion of the park?
11:30:58 >> Right.
11:30:58 >> You said that in a very timid way.
11:31:00 >> I would like to review the agreement.
11:31:06 That's a concern.
11:31:06 But that's the agreement.
11:31:07 >> And again in terms of what I have seen in contracts in
11:31:10 other areas that, you know, we can't just get out of the
11:31:14 contract because you want to get out of the contract, there
11:31:16 has to be other reasons behind it, whether it's negotiated
11:31:20 out or whether it is -- there is usually never a unilateral
11:31:27 agreement, even though it's only a dollar a year.
11:31:31 I just want to make sure that people understood that,
11:31:34 because when we look at newspapers -- and I know we have all
11:31:37 seen those articles -- they will have the west bank project
11:31:40 that is going on between the Tampa Housing Authority and
11:31:44 City of Tampa and on the entities, and they included
11:31:47 Riverfront Park.
11:31:49 And I remember reading it and seeing the graphic.
11:31:52 And it had a line around Riverfront Park and it made it seem
11:31:55 like they were a part and parcel of each other.
11:31:58 And I think that Mr. Corrada correctly made sure that we
11:32:03 knew that those are not the same projects together.
11:32:07 And I think that's where part of the confusion comes from,
11:32:09 and the other part of it is, of course, these contracts.
11:32:12 We want to make sure we are going to have plenty of access
11:32:15 to the park for everyone in the City of Tampa to use,
11:32:17 regardless of what that purpose is going to be, whether or
11:32:20 not we move the street in order to expand the park and have
11:32:25 more area, or whether or not we add amenities to it.
11:32:29 We know that we are going to be part of that.
11:32:31 I just want to make sure that everyone was clear that we
11:32:34 can't just say, everyone out of the park, we are going to
11:32:37 redesign it, change it all, and they have no recourse, or no
11:32:41 on the standings.
11:32:43 Thank you, sir.
11:32:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mrs. Montelione.
11:32:46 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, sir.
11:32:48 As Ms. Capin said earlier, we are into many events in the
11:32:52 park over the years, and a couple of things that I have
11:32:59 noticed from being there, and it's funny, because when I
11:33:03 looked at your summary in one of the Tampa prep agreements,
11:33:06 it said use up to 114 parking spaces.
11:33:10 I didn't even know there were 114 parking spaces there,
11:33:14 because every time you have an event at that location, that
11:33:17 is a big concern.
11:33:19 There's nowhere to park.
11:33:21 And coming from someone who doesn't want to really provide a
11:33:25 lot of surface parking within the city limits, it is, for a
11:33:33 park this size, and to encourage events in the park,
11:33:39 unfortunately, parking is in my view a necessary evil.
11:33:43 But, that being said, I am glad to hear about maybe
11:33:46 the realignment of Laural Street, because frankly I didn't
11:33:54 realize the parcel across the street was part of the park or
11:33:57 designated as Parkland.
11:33:59 As anyone can see from the aerial that's up on the Elmo
11:34:03 right now, it looks pretty barren in that triangular piece
11:34:09 to the north.
11:34:10 There's no activity there.
11:34:11 There's no programming.
11:34:13 There's nothing.
11:34:14 So I think anything that is done in the northern section of
11:34:18 that park would probably be a tremendous improvement.
11:34:26 And the facilities are nice.
11:34:27 The tennis courts are great.
11:34:29 The basketball courts.
11:34:30 Unfortunately, we did lose the pool, as Mr. Reddick pointed
11:34:35 But, you know, I think that the Parks Department under your
11:34:43 supervision and other have, as you said, gone out of its way
11:34:49 to meet with the resident and to involve people, and
11:34:52 sometimes the media gets ahead of the city in its statements
11:34:57 of what's going to happen in a particular location, and it
11:35:02 does get people upset.
11:35:03 But, you know, from my experience in my short time here,
11:35:07 anything where we talk about a planning of a park takes a
11:35:15 very, very long time, and a lot of money.
11:35:17 And time we have plenty of.
11:35:20 Money we don't.
11:35:21 So I would suppose that this is going to be a protracted
11:35:25 process, and that you will do your best to involve people.
11:35:29 But I think that improvements, although there are good bones
11:35:33 to work with, I think that improvements would give residents
11:35:38 more of an opportunity and a better park and a better
11:35:43 experience simply by utilizing a lot of the land that is
11:35:47 vacant and baron at this point.
11:35:50 And not a lot of people get to see the aerial which we
11:35:54 can -- well, thank you very much -- you can see there's a
11:35:58 lot going on in the southern end of the park.
11:36:01 But absolutely nothing in that northern almost half, I would
11:36:09 I think that everyone needs to take a step back and wait to
11:36:14 see what actual real plans are proposed from the city rather
11:36:20 than jumping to conclusions about what will be there, and,
11:36:27 Mr. Reddick, I did see the article and read the statements
11:36:31 that were made by the mayor, but I think everyone is getting
11:36:33 a little ahead of themselves, and look forward to seeing
11:36:37 some plans come out of the Parks and Recreation Department.
11:36:41 And I think Mr. Bayor does a great job, and I believe that
11:36:45 he will have the residents' best interest in mind.
11:36:49 From my talking with Mr. Bayor, he talks about the kids, and
11:36:54 what opportunities do the kids have, and where can we
11:36:57 improve our parks better for our kids?
11:36:59 So I think that that's a good first step.
11:37:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
11:37:06 I believe that we had a good discussion today on this, and
11:37:09 I'm glad that the citizens showed up.
11:37:10 I'm glad that Mr. Reddick brought up some points.
11:37:13 And I'm glad that Mr. Santiago Corrada brought up the facts
11:37:18 from the past.
11:37:21 It's incumbent to understand that no matter what happens
11:37:25 here in the future, these seven members, or those sitting
11:37:30 here in these chairs in years to come, will be the final
11:37:33 vote on what really happens.
11:37:35 Any administrator, any mayor can make a suggestion.
11:37:38 And rightly or wrongly.
11:37:40 And if you have a date just like in the past in 2003 is up
11:37:45 to the seven members who sit here to agree or disagree
11:37:49 what's going to happen with the purchase of this land.
11:37:53 Park land is very hard to come by.
11:37:55 Especially one of this size, you don't find many in them.
11:37:59 In fact, in all likelihood you don't find any of them of.
11:38:03 There's some two things a city, education, and the right to
11:38:08 have time at a park.
11:38:09 And it certainly incumbent to make sure that all of that is
11:38:13 put together for the benefit of the total citizens of the
11:38:15 City of Tampa.
11:38:16 Any other questions?
11:38:19 Mr. Reddick.
11:38:22 >>FRANK REDDICK: I would like to request that the city
11:38:24 legal department review the agreement with the Stewart
11:38:27 foundation and the City of Tampa to determine if that
11:38:29 agreement is in default and report back to the council on
11:38:33 December 6th under staff reports.
11:38:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mr. Reddick for
11:38:36 December 6th on that statement he made on the foundation
11:38:40 of the Stewart, and second by Mrs. Mulhern.
11:38:43 Further discussion by council members?
11:38:44 All in favor indicate by saying aye.
11:38:50 Notified nay.
11:38:50 The ayes have it unanimously.
11:38:52 Item number 67 is a request by council member Suarez for
11:38:55 continuation to January 20th.
11:38:56 Am I correct, sir?
11:38:58 >>MIKE SUAREZ: That's correct.
11:39:00 >> So moved.
11:39:01 >> I have a motion by Mr. Suarez, second by Mr. Cohen.
11:39:04 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
11:39:07 Opposed nay.
11:39:09 The ayes have it unanimously.
11:39:10 Item number 68 is a memorandum from stint city attorney for
11:39:18 Allison singer for a continuation to December 6th at 10.
11:39:26 I have a motion by Mr. Cohen, seconded by Mr. Reddick.
11:39:34 All in favor say aye.
11:39:36 Opposed nay.
11:39:36 The ayes have it unanimously.
11:39:37 We go now to item 69 is a expenditures of purchasing for
11:39:45 Would anyone like to talk on that or move that item?
11:39:52 I have a motion on 69 for approval of that item on 69.
11:39:55 Seconded by Mr. Cohen.
11:39:56 All in favor of that motion please signify by saying aye.
11:40:00 Opposed nay.
11:40:00 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I just want to point out that 6.3
11:40:04 million spent in gasoline and fuel and encourage the
11:40:07 conservation and looking at how we can improve it.
11:40:10 We don't like spending a lot of money on gas and oil.
11:40:15 We like spending it on services.
11:40:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
11:40:20 Item number 70.
11:40:26 A report on expenditures of sod and installation.
11:40:32 >>LISA MONTELIONE: All of these contracts items are ones
11:40:35 that I had asked to be put on the agenda.
11:40:37 On this item, I'll move the item, but I just have a concern
11:40:40 that there were, in the reports, a comment that there were
11:40:47 no responses to the contract administrator, purchasing,
11:40:57 letting this item.
11:40:58 So I am concerned about how they reach out to companies,
11:41:00 because there's a lot of sod companies that have been
11:41:02 struggling because of the downturn in the construction
11:41:04 industry, and I think it's interesting that none of those
11:41:09 companies are interested in getting a contract from the City
11:41:12 of Tampa except for the one that has been successful.
11:41:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: So you move the item?
11:41:18 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Move the item.
11:41:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Moved by Mrs. Montelione, seconded by Mr.
11:41:23 All in favor of that motion indicate by saying aye.
11:41:26 Opposed nay.
11:41:26 The ayes have it unanimously.
11:41:28 Item number 71.
11:41:28 >> If I may, item 71, 72, 73, and -- and 73.
11:41:40 Yes, thank you.
11:41:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mrs. Montelione on 71, 72, 73,
11:41:50 seconded by Mr. Cohen on a close vote by Mr. Suarez.
11:41:53 The ayes have it unanimously.
11:42:03 Public hearings.
11:42:06 Mrs. Mulhern?
11:42:07 >>HARRY COHEN: Move to open 74, 75, 76.
11:42:15 >> I have a second by Mr. Suarez on 74, 75, 76.
11:42:18 All in favor?
11:42:19 The ayes have it unanimously.
11:42:21 Yes, Mrs. Mulhern.
11:42:22 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
11:42:24 I think Ms. Coyle with probably answer my question,
11:42:30 hopefully answer my question on 74.
11:42:33 I wasn't here for the first reading.
11:42:39 And I don't think I have in my backup what actually is the
11:42:44 Seminole Heights flex provision.
11:42:49 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Planning and development.
11:42:50 The flex provision was an old provision in the comprehensive
11:42:52 plan that allowed zoning districts to flex beyond their land
11:42:56 use category into a neighboring land use category, and
11:42:59 essentially expand their zoning district.
11:43:01 That went away in the early 90s, and in the comprehensive
11:43:06 plan was the recognition of those old flexes, taking peoples
11:43:11 rights away that we had originally given them.
11:43:13 This particular provision is being amended for Seminole
11:43:15 Heights because it says that you cannot rezoning property
11:43:19 under that flex any more.
11:43:22 What we are doing in Seminole Heights is a big area
11:43:24 rezoning, coming up over the next several months, and
11:43:27 because of the way that provision was written, we then
11:43:30 couldn't rezoning those properties to the flex zoning
11:43:34 It would have -- that they got many years ago.
11:43:37 So we would have been giving back what we gave them 20 years
11:43:41 We had to fix the provision to say that we do do the
11:43:44 rezoning under the Seminole Heights flex purely because we
11:43:46 are doing the area rezoning.
11:43:49 It's really the reality of the comp plan to recognize
11:43:52 previously approved flex property.
11:43:54 Otherwise, it's a potential taking that we didn't want to
11:43:57 get into.
11:43:57 >>JULIA MANDELL: Legal department.
11:44:04 When we did our comprehensive plan update, unfortunately,
11:44:06 that provision that was in the comp plan previously, that
11:44:09 recognizes fleck areas was removed.
11:44:14 It shouldn't everybody removed because it can't be in the
11:44:16 position of taking away what we have already given to
11:44:18 We didn't notice it until we went through the process of
11:44:20 Seminole Heights and we were going to simply change
11:44:23 categories to -- by putting this back in its putting
11:44:30 everybody back where they were anyway.
11:44:31 >>MARY MULHERN: You talk too fast.
11:44:38 I'm slow.
11:44:39 So the flex -- I never heard of this flex.
11:44:43 >>CATHERINE COYLE: You haven't heard of it because it has
11:44:44 been gone for a very long time.
11:44:47 >>MARY MULHERN: Out of all of the code?
11:44:49 >> It's not something that you can ask for anymore, okay?
11:44:51 It was a process that you used to be able to apply for back
11:44:55 in the 80s and early 90s.
11:44:58 Council took away that process and said can't do it anymore,
11:45:02 lock in what they did.
11:45:04 We did CI zoning on an R-10 land use category, many years
11:45:09 ago, was considered a flex of the zoning line.
11:45:11 That's all it was.
11:45:13 It's really a mapping issue.
11:45:15 After it was shut down by City Council, also, you can't
11:45:20 rezoning property again to recognize that flex.
11:45:23 That's the problem.
11:45:25 We are going through the area of rezoning to recognize
11:45:27 zoning classifications.
11:45:28 >>MARY MULHERN: So you are recognizing things that had
11:45:31 already had the designation changed by the flex?
11:45:39 >> That's right.
11:45:41 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
11:45:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Questions by council members?
11:45:44 This is a public hearing.
11:45:44 Anyone in the audience care to speak on this hearing number
11:45:49 I see in one.
11:45:53 Motion to close by Mr. Suarez.
11:45:55 Second by Mrs. Montelione.
11:45:56 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying aye.
11:45:59 The ayes have it.
11:46:02 Mr. Suarez -- Mrs. Mulhern?
11:46:06 >>MARY MULHERN: I'm sorry.
11:46:07 We are still on 74.
11:46:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Yes.
11:46:09 Mr. Suarez, would you kindly take 74?
11:46:11 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I present an ordinance for second reading
11:46:20 and adoption, an ordinance amending the Tampa comprehensive
11:46:20 plan to facilitate the implementation of the Seminole
11:46:23 Heights flex provision providing for repeal of all
11:46:25 ordinances in conflict, providing for severability,
11:46:28 providing an effective date.
11:46:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mr. Suarez.
11:46:31 I have a second by Mr. Reddick.
11:46:32 Roll call vote.
11:46:33 Vote and record.
11:46:37 A malfunctioning machine.
11:46:49 Revote, if you may.
11:46:51 Vote and record.
11:47:04 Aha! All right.
11:47:18 We go to item number 75.
11:47:26 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Planning and Development.
11:47:27 75 is the amendment to the public/semi-public land use
11:47:37 This was really of a motion from city council really over a
11:47:37 year ago now, from a case for a land use change.
11:47:40 It's specifically an historic district but it was actually
11:47:42 related to what the maximum intensities really allow in the
11:47:45 public-semi-public category.
11:47:49 Come to find out there wasn't one in the plan.
11:47:52 That council directed us to look at how we should deal with
11:47:56 But with the language that was put Ford, the intensities and
11:48:01 densities for the public/semi-public really should relate to
11:48:04 the surrounding properties, land use categories.
11:48:08 We recognize in the first policy all the good things for the
11:48:12 public/semi-public land use categories and developments that
11:48:15 were legally established within them.
11:48:17 The second is looking at the criteria for establishing the
11:48:21 maximum of densities, would default to the highest intensity
11:48:25 and density in the neighboring property.
11:48:27 Which in most cases, is traditionally next to R-10, R-20,
11:48:36 those particular categories.
11:48:37 In the case that they actually came from where council gave
11:48:40 that direction.
11:48:41 The issue was the surrounding land use category was R-10,
11:48:45 which is F.A.R., the public/semi-public was open ended so
11:48:50 there was a potential discrepancy between the two.
11:48:52 So in that particular case, if that came back before you,
11:48:56 they couldn't beyond the R-10 category.
11:49:00 And in the third policy is that public/semi-public uses
11:49:06 would be placed and located in a manner compatible with the
11:49:10 community, environmental impact with the statement, and the
11:49:18 I'm here for any questions.
11:49:19 >> Ms. Mulhern.
11:49:21 >>MARY MULHERN: Again I wasn't here for the first reading
11:49:26 on this, but St. John's Episcopal and Historic Hyde Park.
11:49:39 In my reading of these changes, I'm not comfortable with the
11:49:48 I think I would like to ask for a continuance of this, if
11:49:52 council wouldn't mind, to go over these changes.
11:49:54 Because it looks to me like what's happening, just by
11:50:02 reading the changes, the policy changes, 21.1.8, that rather
11:50:07 than doing what the neighbors who were opposed to the
11:50:13 increasing density of that proposal, what they had been
11:50:19 asking for was to maintain the lower intensity as opposed
11:50:26 to -- you have a property that is surrounded by, for
11:50:31 instance, different intensities, public/semi-public.
11:50:36 You could take the highest intensity.
11:50:38 And this looks like it locks that in under that second
11:50:42 paragraph, policy 1.8, it says maximum allowable intensity
11:50:48 F.A.R., and density, shall be guided by the most intensive
11:50:52 future land use category adjacent to the public/semi-public
11:50:58 So I want to understand this better, and I also want to talk
11:51:02 to probably the Hyde Park neighborhood to make sure that
11:51:08 this is something that the neighborhood are going to be
11:51:12 comfortable with.
11:51:13 Because I am trying to protect those neighborhoods,
11:51:16 especially historic neighborhoods and residential
11:51:19 neighborhoods from intensity that doesn't belong, because
11:51:27 there's a church or school or something like that.
11:51:30 I'm also not sure I agree with under the primary purposes
11:51:34 the expansion of what seems to be the definition of
11:51:43 So I would just like to continue it.
11:51:45 >> Just for reference, and I think maybe part of the missing
11:51:50 piece -- and certainly you can see that, we can bring it
11:51:52 forward to show you mapping of where the public/semi-public
11:51:56 facilities are in the city, and I think you will see from
11:51:58 those references that they are actually predominantly
11:52:01 embedded within residential areas so they would actually
11:52:03 pick up the land use categories of the residential areas,
11:52:06 which would minimize.
11:52:08 >>MARY MULHERN: I just want to be sure so that I can vote
11:52:11 for it.
11:52:15 Also, as far as the language in the primary purpose, what we
11:52:18 did is we also looked at comprehensive plans descriptions
11:52:21 within the county for public/semi-public as well, and we
11:52:25 tried our best to match up so that it doesn't change so much
11:52:27 across jurisdictions, semi-public as it should be, but we
11:52:33 can certainly --
11:52:35 >>MARY MULHERN: But we are urban and they are not.
11:52:39 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Well, uses are uses.
11:52:40 It's not necessarily how it's laid out which comes in the
11:52:44 design regulations.
11:52:46 But range of uses should be a range of uses.
11:52:48 >>MARY MULHERN: If council will support a continuance to
11:52:54 our next council meeting under -- at 10:30, and continue
11:53:02 If we change it, we have to go back.
11:53:04 >>JULIA MANDELL: Legal department.
11:53:05 This is a comprehensive plan change which the text amendment
11:53:09 has been previously -- has been in front of you self times
11:53:13 for hearings.
11:53:14 The Planning Commission for hearings have been transmitted
11:53:17 to Department of Community Affairs.
11:53:19 And I am not suggesting you shouldn't be able to make any
11:53:22 changes you want.
11:53:24 It just depends on what you want to do.
11:53:26 I may have to advise it needs to be pulled out of the cycle
11:53:28 and put into another cycle if the changes are too
11:53:31 So I just point that out to you for procedurally where we
11:53:35 are, and if we want to continue this, I don't have a
11:53:38 >>MARY MULHERN: I would rather do what you said, pull it
11:53:43 out for the next cycle, but if counts council wants to
11:53:45 continue it for second reading, then I will still do my
11:53:50 research, but that means I probably will end up not
11:53:53 supporting it and we may have people who don't.
11:53:55 So I think it would be better to pull it out.
11:53:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Before I go to Ms. Capin, I am not going
11:54:00 to pull it out.
11:54:02 My vote isn't going to be to pull it out.
11:54:06 My vote will be to continue it because through all the
11:54:08 processes I that know, it's incumbent to understand to pull
11:54:12 it means how many months delay one way or the other?
11:54:18 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Several.
11:54:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: That's all.
11:54:19 Ms. Capin.
11:54:20 >> More than two?
11:54:24 >> A year.
11:54:26 >>YVONNE CAPIN: That's something when we have our meeting of
11:54:30 council, for lack of a better word, retreat to look at.
11:54:34 We can change that number of months.
11:54:40 That can be changed if council can do that.
11:54:42 But besides that I want to -- at the time that this came up,
11:54:50 the church, I did represent district 4 and had many, many
11:54:55 meetings with the homeowners, and with our attorney Chip
11:55:05 Fletcher, and he wisely and smartly came up with a
11:55:09 compromise that we could move forward with this in mind.
11:55:15 And that was in 2010.
11:55:20 So here we are in 2012.
11:55:22 We definitely need to change these cycles.
11:55:25 They are too long.
11:55:27 In my opinion.
11:55:30 >>CATHERINE COYLE: The community planning has been amended.
11:55:33 There are changes to the process and has definitely
11:55:37 But what council has on your calendar, we have to go through
11:55:42 public hearing processes with the Planning Commission as
11:55:45 There is still a review period outside of that which council
11:55:48 does not have control over.
11:55:49 So the Planning Commission meets once a month.
11:55:52 We get on their calendars as fast as we can and we come back
11:55:55 to you.
11:55:55 And your calendars don't always match up.
11:55:58 Your public hearings don't always match up.
11:56:00 The public hearings take time.
11:56:02 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I understand it takes time, but we are
11:56:04 looking at six months.
11:56:05 And right now we are at two years ago this happened.
11:56:08 >>JULIA MANDELL: Legal department.
11:56:12 And I understand what you are saying and unlike our zoning
11:56:16 processes, the ones that we keep internally, these are
11:56:19 processes that obligate us to follow Florida statutes when
11:56:23 we are amending the comprehensive plan.
11:56:25 So it isn't something -- it is shorter than it used to be
11:56:28 which is why it took so long to get to you to begin with.
11:56:31 And yes, we could probably get another cycle done, much
11:56:34 shorter than we previously were.
11:56:35 But we figured out a way to do this in the shortest period
11:56:40 of time as possible but I don't know that I can get you much
11:56:43 quicker than six months, even if you were to change your
11:56:45 calendar and the Planning Commission calendar that also
11:56:48 requires review by the state in certain instances, and so
11:56:54 this isn't something that we have as much control over as,
11:56:57 say, any of our internal processes, which is why we -- and
11:57:01 that's why I wanted to warn you now if for some reason we
11:57:04 get to a point when we continue this and we make changes
11:57:08 that are significant enough, they are obligated to go back
11:57:11 through the process, yes, we are probably looking at an
11:57:14 additional six months.
11:57:18 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Then maybe we should look and see -- that's
11:57:21 a different issue than this, that might come from that
11:57:26 retreat to look at exactly how much shorter we can make it.
11:57:30 >>JULIA MANDELL: In the interim, if you simply discontinue
11:57:34 the second reading between that time frame, I can certainly
11:57:38 at least give you the reference of where the --
11:57:42 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Is that the motion to continue?
11:57:45 >> There wasn't yet a motion on the floor.
11:57:48 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I thought there was.
11:57:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: No, there was only expressions.
11:57:55 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Never mind then.
11:57:56 >> At this point I'm fine with it, too.
11:57:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mrs. Montelione.
11:58:01 >>LISA MONTELIONE: A two-week continuance may not throw --
11:58:04 and I want to double check once again with Julia.
11:58:07 We have a two-week continuance for this item.
11:58:10 Is it going to throw it out of the cycle?
11:58:12 >> No, no.
11:58:13 We are fine with it.
11:58:15 It's only if we want to make changes at second reading that
11:58:17 may throw us back into the new -- in order to amend your
11:58:23 comprehensive plan, it's a little different than amending
11:58:25 your zoning code.
11:58:26 It requires -- I have to send it back through the process.
11:58:32 It's not just starting --
11:58:37 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Because let me ask a few other questions
11:58:40 before I say something else.
11:58:42 This has gone through how many public hearings?
11:58:46 >>JULIA MANDELL: It would have had at least two public
11:58:47 hearings in front of the Planning Commission.
11:58:49 I recall the workshops that several times here prior to
11:58:53 coming up with this language, the Planning Commission has
11:58:56 done a study on this issue.
11:58:58 And the transmittal public hearing.
11:58:59 And then the first reading public hearing.
11:59:02 So --
11:59:05 >>LISA MONTELIONE: From listening to what you said, it
11:59:08 sounds like we have had six public hearings, whether here,
11:59:12 and the workshop, whether it be here as a Planning
11:59:16 Commission, but we have talked about the idea of doing this.
11:59:21 The public has had at least six, if not more, opportunities
11:59:27 to speak.
11:59:29 Members of T.H.A.N., members of neighborhood associations,
11:59:31 concerned members of the public, whoever wanted to speak had
11:59:35 at least six opportunities to do so.
11:59:38 So I'm not sure if having one more is going -- you know, to
11:59:47 make a huge difference.
11:59:48 I mean, I would like to see this go forward and vote today,
11:59:52 because after having -- if no one has really brought forth
11:59:57 enough concerns to stop this before it got to second
12:00:00 hearing, here, after six opportunities, and I'm sure it was
12:00:06 more than six, because I'm just using six from what you just
12:00:09 said just now.
12:00:12 I think this needs to just go on.
12:00:14 I mean, that's a lot of time for the public to speak out.
12:00:18 >>JULIA MANDELL: Let me just say again, I was only
12:00:22 suggesting that continuance doesn't have a problem, but I
12:00:26 heard the concerns about the language, and I didn't want
12:00:28 there to be a surprise if we come back after a continued
12:00:31 public hearing, and I say, you know what?
12:00:33 We have now taken this too far, we have to send this back.
12:00:36 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And that may very well happen because
12:00:41 why else would we want to talk about it again but the
12:00:44 changed language?
12:00:44 And that would put us back into the full cycle, and, you
12:00:49 know, we have to wait months and months before we it would
12:00:54 be able to come up again.
12:00:55 So I want to take a vote and move and see if we have got the
12:01:02 support to pass this today.
12:01:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Suarez?
12:01:07 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Actually, Ms. Mandell already answered my
12:01:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: What is the pleasure of council?
12:01:11 We have three items.
12:01:13 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I move the item.
12:01:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Let me ask the public and I'll get back
12:01:22 to you.
12:01:24 We are going to ask the public if they want to speak.
12:01:26 I see no public.
12:01:28 Ms. Mulhern.
12:01:28 >>MARY MULHERN: Beginning to make a motion to continue when
12:01:36 it got open to public discussion, so I think that should
12:01:39 come first.
12:01:39 But whatever.
12:01:40 Go ahead and vote.
12:01:42 We'll see how it goes.
12:01:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: The only motion I have is the one by Mrs.
12:01:45 Montelione on the floor.
12:01:46 I'm sorry, I apologize to all concerned.
12:01:49 And I have a second by Mr. Suarez on item number 75.
12:01:52 All in favor of the motion.
12:01:54 It's a roll call vote.
12:01:58 THE CLERK: You need to close your public hearing first.
12:02:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion to close the public hearing by Mr.
12:02:02 Reddick, seconded by Mrs. Montelione.
12:02:06 Mrs. Mulhern.
12:02:10 Go on.
12:02:10 >>MARY MULHERN: (off microphone) especially due to the fact
12:02:17 that I am serving on this council and hearing these kinds of
12:02:20 things, for five and a half years now.
12:02:23 So I'm asking for you to continue this for two weeks so that
12:02:26 I can be sure that I'm really voting for the best possible
12:02:33 change to our comprehensive plan, and asking you to give me
12:02:36 that respect.
12:02:37 So I will not be supporting the motion to pass this.
12:02:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mrs. Montelione.
12:02:42 >>LISA MONTELIONE: No disrespect meant, Councilwoman
12:02:46 You know that I have a great deal of respect for you.
12:02:48 But I think that we have had so many opportunities to look
12:02:52 at this language and talk about this language and workshop
12:02:55 this --
12:02:57 >>MARY MULHERN: I was not here at the first reading of
12:02:59 >>LISA MONTELIONE: The workshop you were.
12:03:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: All right.
12:03:03 Any other comments related to the item itself on 75?
12:03:08 Ms. Capin.
12:03:12 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I agree.
12:03:12 One of the things -- that we are going to look at is the
12:03:17 methodology of the ways the public is notified for these
12:03:22 Very important.
12:03:23 Very important.
12:03:25 So I will not support this right now.
12:03:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: There's a motion on the floor made by
12:03:31 Mrs. Montelione, I believe seconded by Mr. Suarez.
12:03:36 Roll call vote.
12:03:38 Vote and record.
12:03:41 Motion to close the hearing was made by Mr. Reddick.
12:03:43 Seconded by Mrs. Montelione.
12:03:46 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
12:03:48 Opposed nay.
12:03:48 The ayes have it unanimously.
12:03:50 The original motion goes back on the floor.
12:03:52 It's a roll call vote.
12:03:53 >>THE CLERK: Read the title.
12:03:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Somebody has to read the title.
12:03:59 Maker of the motion.
12:04:05 >> Ordinance presented for second reading and adoption, an
12:04:10 ordinance amending the Tampa comprehensive plan to address
12:04:12 the intensity and density guidelines in public semi-public
12:04:16 land use category providing for repeal of all ordinances in
12:04:19 conflict, providing for severability, providing an effective
12:04:23 >> Second.
12:04:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mrs. Montelione,
12:04:26 second by Mr. Suarez.
12:04:27 Roll call vote.
12:04:29 Vote and record.
12:04:31 This is a public hearing on second adoption of the public
12:04:36 >> Motion failed with Capin, Cohen, Reddick and Mulhern
12:04:47 voting no.
12:04:47 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I make.
12:04:52 >>MARY MULHERN: I make a motion to continue the second
12:04:54 hearing to -- the second adoption public hearing for two
12:05:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: At 10:30.
12:05:02 Am I correct, clerk?
12:05:04 Motion by Mrs. Mulhern, second by Capin on a close vote with
12:05:08 Mr. Cohen.
12:05:09 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying aye.
12:05:13 Opposed nay.
12:05:16 Motion passes 5-2.
12:05:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: And by the clerk, did you get who voted
12:05:24 which way?
12:05:25 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I voted no.
12:05:28 >>THE CLERK: Montelione and Suarez voting no.
12:05:34 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Mr. Chairman, I have a request.
12:05:37 If you could make a motion to reopen that public hearing so
12:05:39 it will be a continue public hearing because it was closed
12:05:42 and you took the vote.
12:05:43 >>HARRY COHEN: So moved.
12:05:46 >>FRANK REDDICK: Second.
12:05:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Let the clerk put it on the record what
12:05:50 it is, sir, that we are voting on.
12:05:52 >>THE CLERK: You are voting on the motion to reopen the
12:05:54 public hearing in order for it to be continued to November
12:05:58 15th at 10:30 a.m.
12:06:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Maker of the motion seconds.
12:06:02 >> I was the maker of the motion.
12:06:07 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I will not be here November 15th.
12:06:09 >> I have a motion on that item seconded by Mr. Reddick.
12:06:13 All in favor?
12:06:15 Motion passes.
12:06:16 >>HARRY COHEN: We just reopened the public hearing.
12:06:23 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I'm getting ahead of myself here.
12:06:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Now we are reopening the hearing.
12:06:27 Yes, Mrs. Mulhern.
12:06:28 >>MARY MULHERN: (off microphone) that she won't be here on
12:06:32 the 15th.
12:06:33 So I would like to change that to the next regular council
12:06:38 >>HARRY COHEN: We have a night meeting.
12:06:42 >> How about we have it at the night meeting?
12:06:44 Will you be here at the night meeting?
12:06:47 Oh, next week is the night meeting?
12:06:50 >> We have another night meeting the 10th of December.
12:06:55 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Why don't we take this to our next
12:06:57 regular council meeting after November 15th?
12:07:03 Making a new motion for a continuance to December 6th at
12:07:06 10:30 regular council meeting.
12:07:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mrs. Montelione, Mr. Cohen.
12:07:11 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Ms. Mandell, when I asked if waiting two
12:07:17 weeks would cause an issue, will waiting to December 6th
12:07:22 cause an issue you?
12:07:23 >>JULIA MANDELL: No, that will be fine.
12:07:25 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
12:07:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: We have the motion on the floor by Mrs.
12:07:28 Mulhern, I believe seconded by Mrs. Capin for December
12:07:31 6th at 10:30.
12:07:33 All in favor of the motion indicate by saying aye.
12:07:35 Opposed nay.
12:07:35 The ayes have it unanimously.
12:07:38 Continuation to December 6th at 10:30 the year 2012.
12:07:41 And N this chamber.
12:07:44 I will be real specific.
12:07:47 >>FRANK REDDICK: Move to extend the time for 15 minutes.
12:07:56 >> Second.
12:07:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: All in favor?
12:07:58 The ayes have it unanimously.
12:08:05 Anyone in the audience?
12:08:06 Anyone in the city?
12:08:07 Anyone in the audience care to speak on item number 76?
12:08:13 Do you want to say anything?
12:08:15 Or do you want to look at your cell phone?
12:08:21 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Move the item.
12:08:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mr. Red Dicks, second by Mrs.
12:08:28 All in favor?
12:08:29 The ayes have it unanimously.
12:08:30 >> Move 76 for approval.
12:08:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: You have to read it.
12:08:34 It's an ordinance.
12:08:34 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Ordinance being presented for second
12:08:38 reading and adoption, ordinance amending the Tampa
12:08:40 comprehensive plan, future land use map for the property
12:08:43 located in the general vicinity of 2702 west Comanche Avenue
12:08:46 from residential R-10 to residential 35, providing for
12:08:52 repeal of all ordinances in conflict providing for
12:08:54 severability, providing an effective date.
12:08:55 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Second.
12:09:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mrs. Montelione, a
12:09:02 second by Mr. Suarez.
12:09:03 Roll call vote.
12:09:04 Vote and record.
12:09:07 >> Motion carried unanimously.
12:09:12 >> Thank you.
12:09:15 We go to information reports and new business from right to
12:09:19 Mr. Suarez.
12:09:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, chair.
12:09:22 I would like to make a motion to invite Mr. Joe Lopano of
12:09:27 Tampa International Airport to provide us with the airport
12:09:29 master plan update on December 20th at 9:00 a.m.
12:09:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mr. Suarez.
12:09:42 I have a second by Mrs. Montelione.
12:09:43 All in favor of that motion please indicate by saying aye.
12:09:46 Opposed nay.
12:09:47 The ayes have it unanimously.
12:09:48 Anything else?
12:09:50 >> No, sir.
12:09:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mrs. Capin.
12:09:53 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.
12:09:53 First of all, I want to congratulate the stepping stones
12:10:02 group, and in particular Mr. Ed Ross, the founder of
12:10:09 community stepping stones.
12:10:11 He has been chosen by the Tampa Bay Lightning as a hero and
12:10:17 was awarded $50,000 for this program, which is exceptional.
12:10:21 I would like to point out that ed Ross was part of our
12:10:24 workshop on cultural assets economic engine, and I'm very
12:10:29 happy to report that I would also like to present a
12:10:31 commendation to stepping stones, community stepping stones
12:10:40 in December 20th.
12:10:46 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mrs. Capin, seconded by Mrs.
12:10:48 Discussion by council members?
12:10:49 All in favor of the motion indicate by saying aye.
12:10:52 Opposed nay.
12:10:53 Ayes have it unanimously.
12:10:55 >>YVONNE CAPIN: This is a public bicycle bash this weekend,
12:10:59 Sunday, November 4th at Cotanchobee park, from 10 a.m.
12:11:07 to 4 p.m.
12:11:08 And I was very -- awarded their annual award last year, and
12:11:17 it is -- I am so glad they moved it to the inner city, and
12:11:21 that it is going to be a big part of our community here in
12:11:26 the City of Tampa.
12:11:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Cohen?
12:11:44 >>HARRY COHEN: Mr. Reddick, Mrs. Mulhern?
12:11:52 I have three items.
12:11:53 First I am going to pass out this resolution to everyone.
12:11:56 I am going to make a motion that this be placed on our
12:11:59 calendar on December 6th.
12:12:02 It is a resolution naming the Courtney Campbell scenic
12:12:07 highway and it's being done in conjunction with Hillsborough
12:12:13 County, the city of Clearwater, and Pinellas County.
12:12:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: And that's coming --
12:12:20 >>HARRY COHEN: Placed on our calendar for consideration on
12:12:23 December 6th.
12:12:24 >> December 6th.
12:12:25 I have a motion by Mr. Cohen.
12:12:26 Second by Mrs. Mulhern.
12:12:28 All in favor of that motion?
12:12:30 The ayes have it unanimously.
12:12:31 >> Second, I would like to make a motion that the City
12:12:35 Council present the Florida orchestra and the national
12:12:38 symphony orchestra of Cuba with a commendation honoring
12:12:41 their joint performance on November 6th, 2012, when they
12:12:45 will appear at the Cuban club in Ybor City.
12:12:47 >> Second.
12:12:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mr. Cohen.
12:12:52 Seconded by Mrs. Capin on a close vote with Mrs. Mulhern.
12:12:55 All in favor?
12:12:57 The ayes have it unanimously.
12:12:58 >>HARRY COHEN: Finally, I would like to make a motion that
12:13:01 City Council present a commendation to the Tampa Ameet
12:13:03 chapter of Hadassah in honor of their 100th year
12:13:08 anniversary at their once in a lifetime centennial gala on
12:13:14 December 20, 2012.
12:13:15 >> Seconded by Mr. Suarez.
12:13:17 All in favor of the motion?
12:13:21 Motion passes unanimously. Mrs. Montelione?
12:13:24 >>LISA MONTELIONE: No, thank you
12:13:28 I have two items today.
12:13:30 (off microphone)
12:13:31 The first one, if we can have the overhead, please.
12:13:34 Thank you.
12:13:37 There's a movie that is opening on November 9th, which
12:13:41 is Friday, next week, called the little red wagon.
12:13:47 This movie was based on the efforts of Zach Bonner, who as
12:13:55 you can see from the release walked across the country to
12:13:58 bring awareness to the homeless in our country.
12:14:05 He collected 27 pickup trucks full of water in response to
12:14:11 Hurricane Charley's devastation in neighborhoods.
12:14:15 And he continues to do a lot of great work.
12:14:20 He's a young man who is older.
12:14:31 Many people ten times as old as he is.
12:14:33 I would like to encourage everyone out there to see this
12:14:36 The movie was directed by David Anstott, the director of
12:14:46 Hoosier, and was directed by Shane Duncan, who was director
12:14:51 of Mr. Holland's Opus and Courage Under Fire.
12:14:56 This is a truly inspiring film award.
12:15:00 It will be at the AMC Veterans 24 starting November 9th,
12:15:07 Friday, and runs through Thursday, that following Thursday,
12:15:10 which is the 15th.
12:15:11 On the 15th, I would like to invite the Lazydays
12:15:19 employee foundation here for a commendation.
12:15:23 They have purchased every seat in the theater for Saturday's
12:15:28 And they are doing a red carpet event.
12:15:30 The Lazydays employee foundation has created the Lazydays
12:15:36 homeless youth program.
12:15:38 They do amazing work.
12:15:39 They raise a lot of money.
12:15:42 And they really deserve recognition for the work that they
12:15:45 have done.
12:15:47 So I would like to have Zack Bonner here for a commendation
12:15:51 from council as well as the Lazydays employee foundation,
12:15:55 including their general counsel recognizing their work and
12:16:03 to celebrate the film "Little Red Wagon."
12:16:11 I make that as a motion.
12:16:12 >> Second.
12:16:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mrs. Montelione,
12:16:14 seconded by Mrs. Capin.
12:16:16 Further discussion by council members?
12:16:17 All in favor.
12:16:21 Opposed nay.
12:16:22 >> The next motion is more mundane.
12:16:27 I had asked casually to be submitted whenever wee whenever
12:16:35 we are asked to vote on the purchase of real property.
12:16:38 I have not received in the backup of appraisal properties
12:16:40 that we are being asked to purchase.
12:16:41 I would like to make that as a motion that when we are asked
12:16:44 to purchase property and approve the contract for sale and
12:16:49 purchase of property that the appraisal be submitted with
12:16:51 the backup item and material.
12:16:52 >> Second.
12:16:55 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mrs. Montelione, second by Mr.
12:16:58 Further discussion by council members?
12:16:59 All in favor?
12:17:01 The ayes have it unanimously.
12:17:04 We go to the general portion.
12:17:06 Yes, ma'am, one second.
12:17:08 Let me ask the general portion.
12:17:09 Anyone in the audience care to speak before this council?
12:17:18 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Planning department.
12:17:23 On December 13th following the CRA meeting, I was going
12:17:26 to ask for 45 minutes time frame for council to reconvene
12:17:30 their workshop to talk about the general code amendments.
12:17:34 If we don't do it in December, then it pushes us out to
12:17:36 January and it makes the process much longer.
12:17:38 >> Move the request to set for workshop items relating to
12:17:48 code amendments for December 13th immediately following
12:17:51 our CRA meeting.
12:17:52 >> Second.
12:17:53 >>MARY MULHERN: A motion by Mrs. Montelione, second by Mrs.
12:17:59 Further discussion by council members?
12:18:01 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And set a time by council so 10 a.m.
12:18:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 10 a.m. is fine.
12:18:07 All in favor of the motion indicate by saying aye.
12:18:09 Opposed nay.
12:18:10 The ayes have it unanimously.
12:18:11 Okay, clerk.
12:18:12 Yes, ma'am.
12:18:12 >> I received a request from the Westshore Alliance.
12:18:19 They are wanting to be scheduled on December 6th for
12:18:21 approximately 10 to 15 minutes to make an update
12:18:24 presentation about the Westshore master plan to council, and
12:18:30 want to know if they can have it approved need a motion to
12:18:33 that effect.
12:18:34 A motion by Mrs. Montelione.
12:18:38 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I am going to second it but is that the same
12:18:40 date as the airport master plan?
12:18:43 December 6th?
12:18:44 >> 20th.
12:18:46 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.
12:18:46 I second it.
12:18:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mrs. Mulhern.
12:18:49 Second by Mrs. Capin on that motion by the clerk's office.
12:18:55 All in favor?
12:18:57 >> Move to receive and file.
12:19:04 >> Motion to receive and file by Mr. Reddick seconded on a
12:19:08 close vote with Mr. Cohen by Mr. Suarez.
12:19:11 The ayes have it unanimously.
12:19:13 We stand adjourned.
12:20:10 (The council meeting adjourned at 12:20 p.m.)
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