Tampa City Council Workshop
Thursday, November 14, 2013
9:00 a.m. workshop
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09:44:09 [Sounding gavel]
09:49:16 >>HARRY COHEN: Good morning again, everyone, and welcome to
09:49:19 this abbreviated workshop session of Tampa City Council.
09:49:23 Roll call.
09:49:24 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
09:49:29 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Here.
09:49:31 >>FRANK REDDICK: Here.
09:49:33 >>HARRY COHEN: Here.
09:49:35 Okay. We have a few housekeeping items to deal with first.
09:49:40 There are three items on our agenda this morning.
09:49:43 The first was going to be a discussion of West Tampa.
09:49:48 We have a memorandum from council member Capin requesting
09:49:52 that workshop be continued to January 30th, 2014, at
09:49:58 10:00 a.m.
09:49:59 Can I have a motion to that effect?
09:50:01 >> So moved.
09:50:02 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you.
09:50:03 We have a motion from Councilwoman Mulhern, seconded by
09:50:06 Councilman Reddick. All in favor? Okay.
09:50:11 Item number 2 is a scheduled discussion at 10:00 a.m.
09:50:16 regarding bed and breakfast establishments.
09:50:19 We have received a memorandum from Ms. Coyle asking that
09:50:23 that discussion be continued to February 27th workshop
09:50:28 at 9:00 a.m.
09:50:29 I want to just say before someone kindly makes a motion to
09:50:34 that effect that the issue regarding making a change about
09:50:39 short-term rentals from seven days to 30 days to conform to
09:50:44 state law is already included in our next text amendment
09:50:50 cycle, and, therefore, did not need to be discussed this
09:50:53 morning as part of this workshop.
09:50:55 >> So moved.
09:51:00 >>HARRY COHEN: So we have a motion to continue item number
09:51:02 2 to February 27th by Councilman Reddick.
09:51:05 Seconded by Councilwoman Mulhern.
09:51:07 All those in favor please indicate by saying aye.
09:51:19 So we are going to move on now to item number 3 which is a
09:51:22 presentation. City of Tampa's urban forest management plan.
09:51:26 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Planning and development.
09:51:30 >>HARRY COHEN: Excuse me one moment.
09:51:31 We will have public comment on this item at the end of the
09:51:34 >>CATHERINE COYLE: I'll be very brief.
09:51:37 I just wanted to introduce our lead consultant and the rest
09:51:40 of the team as well.
09:51:41 Mr. Rob Northrop, an extension forester with the
09:51:48 Hillsborough County office through the University of
09:51:49 Florida, an amazing forester, he's done a great job with
09:51:53 this plan, as well as Dr. Landry -- John Landry in the
09:52:00 audience as well, and he has been a great asset to our team
09:52:03 from the University of South Florida.
09:52:05 Also, Brad Peters here from parks.
09:52:08 Kathy Becks as an outreach coordinator and project lead,
09:52:12 internal to our office in planning.
09:52:15 It's been an exciting process to go through and do this
09:52:18 And it is kind of the first of its kind definitely in this
09:52:21 And we have looked at -- been looked at even internationally
09:52:28 from Canada and other states looking at this plan, and
09:52:32 maintaining our urban forest.
09:52:34 With that, I'll turn it over to Mr. Northrop, and at the
09:52:38 conclusion of this workshop I would ask if you are so
09:52:41 inclined to direct us to bring back a resolution to discuss
09:52:44 the plan so that we can move forward.
09:52:46 Thank you.
09:52:46 >> Good morning.
09:52:54 Good to see you this beautiful day in Tampa.
09:52:57 Now I have to figure out -- do I have the slides?
09:53:05 Is that how we do it?
09:53:08 Thank you very much.
09:53:10 I'm sorry.
09:53:11 I'm not technologically sound like that.
09:53:15 I'm Rob Northrop, a forester with the University of Florida,
09:53:21 stationed at Hillsborough County's extension office, and
09:53:24 along with my associate John Landry, we have been working
09:53:29 with the City of Tampa in the development of a comprehensive
09:53:33 urban forest management plan.
09:53:36 I have a little presentation about that.
09:53:38 And then please, if you have any questions, we will have a
09:53:46 So first, the definition.
09:53:48 The urban forest consists of the remnants of the native
09:53:50 forest found within parks, medians and rights-of-way, and
09:53:57 planted trees, palms and shrubs found within public property
09:54:01 in the city.
09:54:02 The goal of the plan is to guide the development of a more
09:54:04 efficient and effective approach to urban forest management
09:54:08 leading to a healthier and more productive urban forest.
09:54:12 Now, the flan was developed in a very focused manner, in a
09:54:19 stepwise way and very deliberative manner meaning that all
09:54:23 of the agencies of the city and the greatest cross section
09:54:28 of people in the city to the extent that we could, were
09:54:31 involved and could see and participate in commenting on
09:54:35 every step along the way.
09:54:37 As a matter of fact, the city put up a Web site in the
09:54:41 planning department, and every time we talked to anyone, we
09:54:44 gave them that and said please look at the documents.
09:54:48 So all the intermediate documents are up on the Web site as
09:54:52 we went through the conversations, helping the city develop
09:54:55 this plan.
09:55:01 In 2006 and 2007, City Council had asked for an urban
09:55:06 ecological analysis. Urban forest and the first
09:55:11 comprehensive review of the distribution. Urban forest, and
09:55:15 also its benefits to people in the city.
09:55:19 And when this report was published, it generated a lot of
09:55:22 interest in managing the urban forest to increase the
09:55:26 benefits, and to some degree reduce the costs, increase the
09:55:31 efficiency of its management.
09:55:34 Some of the outcomes from that particular report are shown
09:55:40 It should be noted that sample, looking at aerial
09:55:47 topography, in the urban forest across neighborhoods and
09:55:50 planning districts, provided detailed information again
09:55:53 about the diversity.
09:55:56 >>HARRY COHEN: We have a question from a council member.
09:55:59 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
09:56:00 On the chart that you have on the screen right now, top tree
09:56:06 species, Brazilian pepper the first one.
09:56:08 And I don't know if that's in order of percentage, but
09:56:12 Brazilian pepper is an invasive species?
09:56:16 >> That's correct.
09:56:17 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Is there a ranking to that order or is
09:56:19 it just random Brazilian pepper?
09:56:23 >> No, ma'am.
09:56:24 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So the top tree species, invasive --
09:56:29 >> In the City of Tampa.
09:56:33 And the reason, of course, Brazilian pepper is an invasive
09:56:39 plant, and disruptive to natural communities, in particular,
09:56:43 but it has also to do with the way we measure and define
09:56:47 what a tree was.
09:56:48 It had to be at least one inch in diameter, and if you are
09:56:54 familiar with Brazilian pepper, which I think you probably
09:56:57 are, they growth in great clumps so when you wind up
09:57:01 sampling in that spot, you wind up hitting a lot.
09:57:04 So it's not that there are more Brazilian pepper than
09:57:10 privilege oak, it's just that there are a tremendous number
09:57:12 of smaller Brazilian peppers.
09:57:17 Part of the biological aspects of urban forest relative to
09:57:22 the benefits of that they provide to people in communities
09:57:28 is that the larger the tree and the longer that they live,
09:57:37 they wind up producing more benefits to people.
09:57:41 Okay? So it's just a naturally occurring thing.
09:57:45 It has to do a lot with the fact that larger trees have more
09:57:49 leaves, and more leaves intercept stormwater fall, absorb
09:57:54 more pollutants from the air, provide more shade, and a host
09:57:58 of other benefits for society.
09:58:02 So just something to keep in mind as we move through the
09:58:07 plan and think about what the plan is seeking to achieve.
09:58:12 Back in the 2008, the City of Tampa appointed a steering
09:58:18 committee on urban forest sustainability.
09:58:21 This was shortly after that initial analysis was published.
09:58:27 And that's their vision right there.
09:58:29 I would read it to you.
09:58:30 But I want to point out that the idea was that the members
09:58:33 of the committee would represent a broad cross-section of
09:58:38 economic, social interest within the city, and you can find
09:58:42 them listed on page 5, the fifth page in your report.
09:58:47 You can see the list of the people who served on that
09:58:50 It's from this vision statement that the plan ultimately
09:58:56 comes forth, and the plan itself is going to be consistent
09:59:01 over time with this vision statement.
09:59:04 It's important to mention right here, also, that the
09:59:08 steering committee and the work that was done with the
09:59:10 steering committee was financed by the Florida Forest
09:59:15 Service, so it was done through a grant that the city
09:59:24 The vision then fed into the identification by the steering
09:59:27 committee of six broad goals.
09:59:30 Biological diversity or habitat, the maintenance, protection
09:59:34 of natural systems, education and research to advance public
09:59:41 appreciation of the economic, social, environmental values
09:59:44 of Tampa, forest and tree maintenance, promote tree repair,
09:59:50 education, and enforcement, public and private partnerships,
09:59:55 with the recognition that we need to create inclusive
09:59:58 partnerships that encourage collaboration.
10:00:01 Regulation and incentives to improve policy framework for
10:00:05 conservation and restoration.
10:00:06 And eventually, ultimately sustainability to promote the
10:00:10 recognition and the maintenance and regeneration of the
10:00:13 urban forest in a way that is economically and ecologically
10:00:19 So it's these six broad goals that guide the development of
10:00:23 the urban forest management.
10:00:27 It's important to mention right off the bat, when they say
10:00:32 public-private partnerships, that collaboration is
10:00:35 absolutely necessary.
10:00:39 Much of the urban forest is private land.
10:00:44 And so when we talk about the conservation, or the
10:00:47 management of the urban forest, the trees and shrubs that
10:00:51 exist in the city, it has to be a stewardship approach by
10:00:57 all segments of society, not just the government itself that
10:01:00 is responsible.
10:01:04 We need to engage.
10:01:05 The city has recognized the need to engage private citizens,
10:01:10 particularly through education.
10:01:11 And you will see education will come out as a major
10:01:13 component of this plan.
10:01:15 So the management of the urban forest requires cooperation
10:01:20 not only. Agencies but neighborhoods and individuals.
10:01:27 If you look at this pyramid, it kind of provides an
10:01:34 illustration of how the plan itself was developed.
10:01:38 The steering committee had the vision, had those six broad
10:01:43 From that, the city develops a set of six guiding
10:01:49 principles, management criteria and key objectives for
10:01:52 long-term management, sustainability, performance
10:01:58 indicators, to be able to go back over time, and to see
10:02:01 whether the work is being done, and then actually the
10:02:07 And I will go through each of these as I make this
10:02:11 As each staff step, by the way, as we move from the vision,
10:02:16 goals, guiding principles, criteria, objectives, indicators
10:02:21 and actions, each step is reviewed and accepted by the
10:02:24 steering committee.
10:02:26 Every time the city went through a process and came to some
10:02:30 intermediate steps, they went back to the steering committee
10:02:33 and asked them, is this consistent with what you said?
10:02:37 Is this consistent with the vision and the six goals that
10:02:41 you sent out?
10:02:43 And as time went on, that also included the directives of
10:02:49 all the departments in the city.
10:02:50 We think went back to them numerous times and said, is this
10:02:53 consistent, and does this plan meet your approval?
10:02:58 So we have taken a look at the vision and the goals.
10:03:04 These are the six guiding principles that were developed
10:03:07 built city, derived from those goals.
10:03:11 Again, so the idea of these six guiding principles,
10:03:19 government efficiency, economic growth, public and private
10:03:22 partnerships, increasing the social, environmental and
10:03:26 economic benefits of the urban forest by reducing costs,
10:03:30 supporting communities, and supporting the basic tenets of
10:03:33 the city's comprehensive plan.
10:03:36 All of these can be seen as a focus by which every step in
10:03:42 the development. Urban forest plan has to go through these
10:03:45 six guiding principles.
10:03:48 And there could be no problem in terms of meeting these six
10:03:55 guiding principles that act as a filter.
10:03:59 Again the steering committee reviewed and approved all of
10:04:02 these six guiding principles and said that they reflect the
10:04:07 goals that they have set out initially.
10:04:10 So I want to give you a little insight into how the
10:04:14 framework of the plan is set up.
10:04:16 Criteria, define essential elements, against which urban
10:04:22 forest sustainability can be judged.
10:04:25 The plan itself uses 31 management criteria, quantifiable
10:04:29 objectives, and quantifiable objective is important, and
10:04:33 performance indicators to guide activities and to suggest
10:04:36 allocation of resources to accomplish the long-term
10:04:39 management objectives.
10:04:41 And if you look on page 16 in your plan, you can see the
10:04:46 full breadth of those 31 management criteria.
10:04:50 And I'll draw your attention to the first criteria here,
10:04:54 which for some reason shows up with question marks all over
10:04:57 the place, and I apologize for that.
10:05:00 It isn't on my computer.
10:05:02 Perhaps it's an older version or something like that.
10:05:06 Butt if you look on page 16, or you can see it, and I will
10:05:10 use the first one that you can see up there, species,
10:05:14 suitability for Tampa's climate zone.
10:05:16 I'll use this one over and over again, and one other
10:05:20 criteria to demonstrate how the plan is put together.
10:05:25 So the key objective here is establish a tree population
10:05:28 suitable for Tampa's urban environment and adapted to the
10:05:33 regional environment, okay?
10:05:34 This is the ultimate in efficiency in urban forestry.
10:05:39 If you take the right tree, and you put it in the right
10:05:42 place -- in other words, you give it the space it needs, you
10:05:46 avoid having conflicts with sidewalks and curbs, you avoid
10:05:51 having conflicts with the lines, power lines, you wind up
10:05:58 planting the tree that costs you much less over time because
10:06:00 you don't have top prune it as much, you don't have to fix
10:06:04 the sidewalks, or fix them as much, okay?
10:06:08 And the tree itself will live longer.
10:06:12 And going back to the original graph about how the benefits
10:06:17 of survivability increase, the larger it grows, this is the
10:06:23 ultimate in efficiency, you know.
10:06:25 Plant the right trees in the first place, and you reduce a
10:06:28 tremendous amount of management costs over time.
10:06:31 So that's why I wanted to pick this one out.
10:06:33 And so you can see this plan is -- and this is indicative of
10:06:38 all 31 of these criteria is very, very practical in nature.
10:06:42 It really does stick to those six guiding principles, and
10:06:47 the idea of efficiency, okay, you know.
10:06:53 So let's move on.
10:06:54 We are going to take this very same one and we are going to
10:06:56 look at performance indicators relative to species for
10:07:02 Tampa's climate zones.
10:07:03 Performance indicators are predominantly quantifiable means
10:07:08 of measuring progress toward key objective, and the key
10:07:11 objective was to establish a tree population that fits
10:07:15 Tampa's environment.
10:07:17 You can see that we have broken down, I should say we -- and
10:07:22 I say we only because I participated with your city team --
10:07:26 to low, moderate, good and optimal as a way of measuring
10:07:30 success, and the idea is that we can begin to judge over
10:07:36 time how the city is managing the urban forest to meet this
10:07:40 key objective of planting the right tree in the right place.
10:07:47 Also, monitoring these indicators over time helps
10:07:51 administration to adjust policies and operations as a part
10:07:55 of the learning process that leads to more efficient and
10:07:59 more effective management programs and ultimately should
10:08:02 lead to reduction in tension
10:08:09 So from this particular -- again, we are looking at the
10:08:14 species suitability as an example in the plan, if we look at
10:08:21 alternatives for action, alternatives for action were
10:08:26 developed for each of the criteria. There's 31 criteria all
10:08:32 together, 31 criteria.
10:08:34 We ranked them, just like you saw for this one in
10:08:41 particular -- again, I'm sorry, but for the performance
10:08:45 indicators relative to species suitability, it turned out
10:08:49 that the city was doing a moderate job at that.
10:08:53 What we wanted to do was create alternatives for action for
10:08:56 all 31 criteria that focused on moving whatever the ranking
10:09:00 was one step forward.
10:09:05 Just move in the right direction.
10:09:07 Not trying to get everything at once.
10:09:08 Not trying to accomplish every key objective there is of
10:09:11 these 31.
10:09:12 But just try to move in the right direction.
10:09:15 Alternatives for action, 138 of them, and they are in your
10:09:22 report in the appendix.
10:09:23 For all of the 61 criteria in an attempt to move those
10:09:28 indicators to the next step forward.
10:09:31 Each of the alternatives were evaluated with consideration
10:09:36 for the requirement that they would have for capital
10:09:39 expenditures, potential personnel costs, length of time to
10:09:44 achieve the measure outcome and the needs to seek out
10:09:50 certain actions because you need to do something,
10:09:54 prerequisites, if you will.
10:09:59 Chose tone guide the first five years of management.
10:10:04 So what happens then is, these 178 alternatives for action
10:10:11 that represent the universe of possible action to move all
10:10:15 of the indicators over was filtered through how much would
10:10:21 it cost, how much personnel time is it going to take, and
10:10:28 how long it was going to take to accomplish them.
10:10:31 So the first five years of work, first five-year management
10:10:36 plan, if you will, the first five years with the exception
10:10:47 of one requires no capital expenditures.
10:10:52 No increase in capital expenditures.
10:10:54 Because there's enough to do.
10:10:57 The only one that required capital expenditures had to do
10:11:00 with the work order system associated with street trees, and
10:11:05 that was agreed to by all of the directors of all of the
10:11:10 They couldn't believe they didn't have -- that they couldn't
10:11:14 track the species.
10:11:15 So that was one that money should be spent on.
10:11:19 So the diagram here to see, the 20-year strategic plan then
10:11:28 is the criteria, and the key objectives, and those key
10:11:36 objectives and performance indicators as a guiding document
10:11:39 for the first -- for 20 years.
10:11:41 And it's a planning document.
10:11:43 So there's the continuity.
10:11:44 It's not status, but there's a planning document there.
10:11:48 Then every five years, a set of alternatives for action are
10:11:52 chosen, and broke down into the action mode, and from that
10:11:59 five-year set of alternatives for action that they are
10:12:03 translated into operating plans within departments and
10:12:08 units, and eventually translated down into individual work
10:12:14 So the city's urban forest plan then has a planning mode, a
10:12:21 short-term management mode, a five years, because those
10:12:26 departments have to plan for their budgets, can't just do
10:12:29 everything, at once, and then annual work plan.
10:12:34 So the planning, the long-term strategy then is translated
10:12:38 down into the departmental drives and then individual work
10:12:45 plan in a way that can be quantifiably pressured to be see
10:12:50 progress over time.
10:12:54 So the first five-year forest management plan or action
10:12:59 plan, again we are looking at that one species for Tampa's
10:13:04 climate modes, objective is tree population suitable for
10:13:09 Tampa's urban environment.
10:13:10 The preferred alternative for action and the years to be
10:13:14 accomplished within that first, you know, for this
10:13:16 particular criteria, is prepare a land, development
10:13:22 regulation that requires the City of Tampa as a guidance
10:13:27 document for all tree planting documents required to code or
10:13:31 through use of public funds, and for tree projects.
10:13:37 Now that you can find on page 45 in the plan.
10:13:43 And basically, that tree matrix provides this information.
10:13:53 And what's more -- and the tree matrix took us about a year
10:13:57 and a half, I think, to accomplish.
10:13:59 So this is not something that just a few people sat in the
10:14:02 room and came up with.
10:14:04 I'm a forester.
10:14:06 We work with our other associates, Michael Andrew from the
10:14:09 University of Florida -- yes, sir?
10:14:11 >>HARRY COHEN: Councilman Mulhern.
10:14:13 >>MARY MULHERN: I just wanted to ask, because I was here
10:14:16 when we got the first presentation after the first study you
10:14:20 did, so when was that, like four years ago?
10:14:23 >> In 2007, 2008.
10:14:25 >>MARY MULHERN: So this five-year plan, is this the idea
10:14:31 for this to be -- are we just getting to the point of
10:14:35 adopting, accepting this?
10:14:41 So what we got at first was the study done in cooperation
10:14:45 with the university, right?
10:14:47 >> Right.
10:14:47 >> So what's happening in the past --
10:14:50 >> Just to make it very distinct, this is a different plan.
10:14:53 It's our urban core management plan.
10:14:57 Then you have your canopy study.
10:14:59 >> Oh, that's what I'm thinking of.
10:15:01 >> Every five years.
10:15:02 And this is the urban forest management plan which is the
10:15:04 umbrella plan for the entire city.
10:15:06 >> We work together.
10:15:10 The one feeds into what we are going to do but this plan is
10:15:15 our big document and how we are going to do it.
10:15:18 We will continue to do the five year canopy study, though.
10:15:20 >> Right.
10:15:21 But this was based on that -- the city's urban forestry plan
10:15:27 you are presenting today is based on the canopy study?
10:15:30 >> Yes.
10:15:30 The study that we did in 2006-2007 and the one that we just
10:15:37 completed which we'll come back and present to you soon
10:15:44 basically describes the urban forest in terms of the
10:15:47 composition, the size, the distribution and the ecological
10:15:50 benefits it provides to society.
10:15:54 It feeds into the plan in terms of providing the information
10:15:58 that will allow you to judge if the plan itself is leading
10:16:03 to healthy and more vigorous and productive urban forest.
10:16:07 >> What occurs to me -- and this, there are a couple of
10:16:11 One is that we recently -- the Parks Department and some of
10:16:17 our departments, someone who is promoting urban orchards,
10:16:23 and one of her requests was that we start to look at edibles
10:16:31 and fruit trees and include those in our list of approved
10:16:35 So I wanted to suggest that you look at that possibility.
10:16:39 And then the bigger question -- and this occurs to me today,
10:16:42 the story -- there was a story in the times, I think, today
10:16:46 about how the citrus growers are shifting to peach trees.
10:16:52 And just the whole fact of our climate change, for one
10:16:58 thing, but just changes in general in, you know, tree
10:17:04 growth, diseases, right, so not just the warming but the
10:17:09 So it seems to me even from the six years that I heard that
10:17:15 the first canopy study, we were all startled and wanted to
10:17:20 do something about the Brazilian peppers, too.
10:17:23 But it's more dynamic.
10:17:27 Like when you talk about this, the native forest that we
10:17:30 had, our climate and everything is changing so much because
10:17:34 of urbanization, and growth.
10:17:38 So I'm just wondering if there is sort of a component in
10:17:43 your future planning maybe in this five-year planning that
10:17:46 you look at changes in climate and, you know, diseases, to
10:17:52 see if we should be maybe adding to the list of trees.
10:17:57 >> Sure.
10:17:59 And actually that was a conversation I had with Kathy Becks
10:18:05 a couple of weeks ago.
10:18:06 And those are great comments by the way, thank you.
10:18:08 And I mean that sincerely.
10:18:10 In fact, all of the things that you just said are things the
10:18:15 city needs to have an urban forest plan.
10:18:18 Because the city's urban forest is dynamic.
10:18:20 It changes over time.
10:18:21 It changes because we change what we build, where we live,
10:18:28 how we move, it changes because of the climate, and there
10:18:30 are always insect and disease problems that we face.
10:18:35 And I think that you will find, as I go through the rest of
10:18:38 the plan, that the plan itself is dynamic, and that was the
10:18:42 idea, and some of the basis for this plan bass not to be a
10:18:47 status document, but to be seen as a long-term strategic
10:18:51 plan with incremental five-year action management plans that
10:18:57 allow for the adaptive management, which is the literature
10:19:04 review of actions and outcomes to inform us about how we
10:19:07 should move in the future.
10:19:13 What we had just gotten to just to finish the thought I was
10:19:16 going to give you so I can continue where I came from, took
10:19:19 about a year and a half to put together.
10:19:21 It involved foresters, forest ecologists, it involved
10:19:28 landscape architects, both public and private, till we got
10:19:33 consensus about which trees really were suitable.
10:19:36 This goes back to that ultimate efficiency, planting the
10:19:39 right seed in the right place.
10:19:41 And you can see when you look at the matrix, it actually
10:19:45 provides information about how much soil space it needs.
10:19:48 And on the image, unfortunately, it did not also mention
10:19:55 that in the matrix it talks about the distance from paved
10:19:58 surfaces that the trees need to be.
10:20:08 And the special needs that they might need to encourage when
10:20:11 planting along streets.
10:20:15 What I didn't mention about it is that we are looking at the
10:20:20 tree matrix as a dynamic document, that we expect to
10:20:27 continue to gobble through this for a couple of years to
10:20:29 refine it, okay, even more.
10:20:32 And our conversations just a couple of weeks ago just about
10:20:39 climate, okay, now we need to begin to at least have an
10:20:43 appendix to the tree matrix and begin to think ahead and
10:20:47 say, if the climate change in a way that the temperature
10:20:52 went up, was going to go up, what are the tree species have
10:20:58 just below us, Fort Myers or something like that, that we
10:21:01 need to start considering might be appropriate?
10:21:04 Particularly, because in some parts of the city it's a
10:21:07 little warm we are, a little cooler, there might be some
10:21:10 parts that might be more appropriate.
10:21:13 So we were thinking right along the same line -- and again
10:21:16 this is a dynamic plan.
10:21:18 This is not intended to be, here is the plan, this is it,
10:21:22 there's no change.
10:21:24 In fact, the plan itself is the outcome to the actions to be
10:21:31 reviewed every year, and then the plan reviewed every five
10:21:35 years using the five-year cycle of the urban forest analysis
10:21:39 as a backbone, for us to judge how we are doing every five
10:21:45 years, and then, of course, it can be updated.
10:21:49 And it needs to be.
10:21:50 It needs to be seen like that.
10:21:51 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Doctor, a quick question.
10:21:57 In terms of when you are looking at it, because we are
10:22:00 looking at an you are man management plan, how important is
10:22:04 the wind resistance?
10:22:07 Obviously I am looking at it in terms of windstorm and
10:22:09 hurricane, that type of thing, because obviously if we have
10:22:13 an urban forestry plan that, you know, has trees that break
10:22:18 off very easily, can damage homes and other people's
10:22:22 properties, because of low resistance to wind, how much of a
10:22:27 factor is that when you are looking at the totality of those
10:22:33 trees as a mix for the plan itself?
10:22:36 >> Sure.
10:22:36 It's very important.
10:22:37 In the tree matrix, you will see that it's listed.
10:22:40 And the reason it's listed is because there has been
10:22:44 extensive research done by the University of Florida.
10:22:47 Ever since hurricane Andrew, every major hurricane that hit
10:22:50 Florida achieved -- Gainesville has gone out and looked at
10:22:55 the damage to the urban forest, and began to rank the trees.
10:23:00 And, in fact, it's been written up in peer review
10:23:04 We have some really, really good information specific to
10:23:08 You will also notice, if you go through the criteria, that
10:23:12 there's actually a specific criteria that deals with that.
10:23:18 Not just planting trees that are suitable but actually
10:23:20 planting trees that are wind resistant.
10:23:23 And it's really important.
10:23:23 >> Let me interrupt you.
10:23:25 When you are looking at those types of trees, is there a
10:23:29 specific place in which you put it within the management
10:23:34 As an example, writs located at within the city itself?
10:23:38 Or is it just, you know, here is a mixture of trees, and as
10:23:41 part of the matrix, here is something more resistant to high
10:23:46 wind versus some others, and then that plan, once we put in
10:23:49 the place, makes a decision by our folks here to say, now
10:23:53 You probably shouldn't put a less wind resistant tree
10:23:58 somewhere where there's a lot of glass buildings.
10:24:02 Is that part of how you make those determinations?
10:24:05 Not you on this particular thing.
10:24:07 But when it goes down to our guys, is that how we
10:24:10 essentially start deciding, hey, maybe this is a tree that
10:24:14 should be here, this should be here?
10:24:15 Not only in the invasive part of it or even in terms of
10:24:18 whether or not it can survive, but whether or not it's going
10:24:21 to survive in terms of wind resistance?
10:24:25 >> Sure.
10:24:25 I think it does. And I think it's already happening.
10:24:33 Our urban forestry coordinator for the city is working with
10:24:36 some of my associates from the University of Florida,
10:24:39 looking at emergency routes, push routes, and obviously
10:24:45 these are very important corridors, okay?
10:24:47 And I don't think anybody would disagree that in those
10:24:52 areas, only the highest, most resistant trees to wind damage
10:24:57 should be there, because, in fact, the livelihood -- is
10:25:07 going to be something dealing with wind.
10:25:10 And you don't want those trees blowing over where everybody
10:25:13 is trying to evacuate or where we are trying to get people
10:25:15 to hospitals or whatever.
10:25:16 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Because one of the biggest problems when it
10:25:20 comes to a major windstorm is that the damage from flying
10:25:23 debris is greater than almost anything else that happens
10:25:26 within a windstorm.
10:25:27 So when you have a bunch of tree limbs that are falling, a
10:25:32 house may be able to sustain it based on new building
10:25:35 techniques and everything else.
10:25:36 But if it goes through a window, or a door, that will suck
10:25:40 that air in there and blow a roof off, and then causes more
10:25:44 damage and more danger for neighbors around.
10:25:47 So I was just curious about that, because we have a lot of
10:25:50 trees that we love and want to keep.
10:25:52 And as we go forward, is there a way not only to have a
10:25:56 great tree canopy but also find ways that we can preserve it
10:26:00 while making it safer for all of us?
10:26:02 That's kind of where I am going.
10:26:04 >> And I think that's what you have got in front of you, is
10:26:06 the plan to do that.
10:26:09 That's the idea.
10:26:10 We live in a city, the juxtaposition to people, property,
10:26:17 trees, very close, very tight.
10:26:18 You have to be always conscious of that.
10:26:21 And that's what we are trying to get at.
10:26:23 You want the urban forest for all the values it provides
10:26:28 But you want to minimize the risks.
10:26:30 And you want to minimize the costs.
10:26:33 Management, right?
10:26:34 You know, I'm a manager.
10:26:37 I get too little money, too little resources, not enough
10:26:40 time, and I have objectives.
10:26:41 But this is the plan, I think.
10:26:43 And I think that your city department -- and that's who
10:26:46 actually wrote this.
10:26:49 I think they did a really great job.
10:26:50 And that's why I'm the one who gets called to the west
10:26:54 coast, or to Washington, to give talks about it, is because
10:27:00 you all do such a good job.
10:27:03 And it is dynamic.
10:27:05 And so it allows for those adjustments to be made because
10:27:09 not only is the urban forest dynamic -- the science is a bit
10:27:15 dynamic, also, new information comes in, you want to be able
10:27:19 to use it and incorporate it and do the very best we can.
10:27:23 >>HARRY COHEN: Councilwoman Montelione.
10:27:26 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
10:27:27 I want to congratulate everyone who put this together, and
10:27:31 the idea that this is something that we are going to have
10:27:33 that no one else in the state has, is a really big step to
10:27:40 demonstrate the City of Tampa's push for cutting-edge urban
10:27:50 type of strategies for plant life, ecosystems, wildlife,
10:27:55 because with the trees come the birds and the squirrels,
10:27:58 and -- Brad doesn't want me to mention squirrels.
10:28:04 [ Laughter ] And this is something in here, I noticed, that
10:28:08 really speaks to you, because it does specifically state on
10:28:12 page 30 says developer in partnership with State of Florida
10:28:17 office of prepared standard for tree maintenance that meets
10:28:20 the needs of insurance companies operating in the City of
10:28:25 But I thought you would like that.
10:28:28 Some of the things that I noticed -- Ms. Coyle, I hope you
10:28:34 have budgeted money for additional staff because there's a
10:28:36 lot of work in here for the land development division of the
10:28:39 city -- there's a lot of code writing that's going to be
10:28:42 taking place.
10:28:43 And looking at the first five-year urban forest management
10:28:48 plan, and I know that there would be elements that would be
10:28:54 revisited and revised on an annual basis, but in reading
10:28:58 through, I didn't see exactly that mandate included in this
10:29:07 I mean, it references it vaguely.
10:29:10 But if we are going to adopt this as a guidance document
10:29:16 under resolution, I want to make sure that that is
10:29:19 specifically spelled out.
10:29:21 That there would be an annual review especially of the tree
10:29:26 Because if we are making recommendations as Mrs. Mulhern
10:29:30 pointed out, not only for that reason, the cost of certain
10:29:35 trees fluctuates, I think, you know, year to year, but
10:29:40 certainly it's not every year over a period of time,
10:29:43 depending on what's available, diseases, what insect has
10:29:50 invaded the state, and that's why it affects what trees are
10:29:53 >> Sure.
10:29:55 And Kathy Beck and I -- and I work with extension services
10:30:01 in Hillsborough County, so I am here to help the city.
10:30:06 It's not an expense to the city.
10:30:08 But Kathy and I have already begun talking with the Tampa
10:30:12 Bay wholesalers, and saying the City of Tampa is thinking
10:30:16 about these things, and you need to be conscious, you know,
10:30:19 from a business standpoint.
10:30:22 For your own sake but also the city would like the
10:30:24 availability of a broader --
10:30:28 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Especially on page 23, year five, it
10:30:32 says require the use of City of Tampa's formalized tree
10:30:35 matrix on all planting projects required through code, or
10:30:39 through the use of the public funds.
10:30:41 So I think it's going to be vitally important, if we are
10:30:45 instructing companies to come here through a PD or rezoning
10:30:51 process, and we always refer to a tree matrix, and there's
10:30:56 usually a review by natural resources, and guidance on
10:31:00 If we are now going to be mandating something, we need to
10:31:03 make sure that we are taking the available tree stock and
10:31:08 cost into consideration.
10:31:09 And that also leads to something else, too, and I started
10:31:13 the database that's going to be created and I'm hoping that
10:31:16 the ERC might be something that the ERC computer technology
10:31:23 transition process that we are going through, that system
10:31:25 can be utilized, because purchase, work order system for the
10:31:32 department of forestry program, I'm hoping some kind of
10:31:35 module that can be added for the department's use, and a
10:31:40 database, because one of the things that we are worried
10:31:43 about, too, is when we have development take place in the
10:31:48 city, and we are going to now mandate, you have to use this
10:31:51 tree matrix, someone has got to be keeping track of the
10:31:56 block face to make sure we don't have too uniform look of
10:32:00 how the development occurred.
10:32:05 Developers generally going to go for the least expensive
10:32:08 tree available.
10:32:08 And if we are saying here is the tree, it's easy for you to
10:32:11 pick from, and they all go for the least expensive model,
10:32:16 that we might end up with blocks and rows that look
10:32:19 identical to one another.
10:32:21 And I want to make sure that it references here some kind of
10:32:25 database where we will be able to keep track of what's being
10:32:28 planted and where, for a lot of reasons, and that always
10:32:33 gets back to us as far as code, you know, who is enforcing
10:32:36 the code, who is making sure that these trees are going to
10:32:39 be cared for, you know, if they die, whatever they are
10:32:44 replaced with, and that sort of process.
10:32:48 So those are the things that I picked up on as I was
10:32:53 reviewing this.
10:32:54 And I thought we already had a requirement of a regulation
10:33:00 that requires removal and invasive species of plants.
10:33:10 I had property and natural resources, Mary or someone else
10:33:14 come out, and several of these are invasive, they can be
10:33:18 taken out, and not included in your development and review.
10:33:23 So I thought that was already a code.
10:33:25 And I saw that and something we were going to change.
10:33:30 Finally my last comment is about the neighborhood tree
10:33:33 stewardship program.
10:33:37 In the education on page 22, it has that as a year-one goal,
10:33:41 and then later on, it also talks about training programs on
10:33:49 inventory and management of natural areas of public and
10:33:52 private property owners.
10:33:53 It seems like those two are nearly aligned.
10:33:58 So we are going to have a neighborhood tree stewardship
10:34:00 program in year one, and wait till year three to conduct
10:34:06 That seems kind of disjointed.
10:34:08 >> So I will answer all three of your comments.
10:34:12 Hopefully in order.
10:34:13 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, doctor.
10:34:15 >> If I forget one of them, please remind me.
10:34:19 Review was the first one.
10:34:21 Page 24.
10:34:22 Under plan implementation.
10:34:24 The third one down.
10:34:26 Establish internal technical advisory committee, comprised
10:34:31 of appointed compartment -- departmental representatives.
10:34:36 Meet quarterly to review progress.
10:34:39 Identify issues.
10:34:41 Make recommendations associated with successful
10:34:44 The planning division manager or director of planning and
10:34:49 development department shall chair and facilitate the
10:34:54 That's the first one.
10:34:55 And there's a little bit more.
10:34:58 >> Don't have a lot of teeth.
10:35:05 >> Well, right, I got you.
10:35:11 The other one has to do with the tree matrix.
10:35:14 Again, we are talking with local folks about that.
10:35:17 About production.
10:35:20 The Tampa Bay association, they are the ones who provide a
10:35:27 great deal of trees locally.
10:35:30 The idea of diversity in trees is, you will see, is actually
10:35:37 one. Criteria. So it stands right out there as one of the
10:35:43 And, also, the matrix itself, when you come in to plant the
10:35:49 tree, let's say you have a redevelopment or a new
10:35:53 development, and you have requirement to plant so many
10:35:56 trees, you will have spaces that you have available.
10:36:00 That space will constrain, which of the trees you can use.
10:36:05 I think if you go through a little process of doing that,
10:36:08 you will see it begins to constrain pretty quickly, okay.
10:36:11 But good comment that it doesn't get us to a point of
10:36:19 individual properties.
10:36:20 And then as far as tracking and mapping goes -- any more
10:36:28 Coup Cowan councilwoman Capin is next.
10:36:30 >> Because I think I can -- there's a tree steward program.
10:36:41 You will notice the neighborhood tree steward program deals
10:36:47 specifically with neighborhoods.
10:36:51 Individuals who are planting and managing individual trees,
10:36:55 either in their yards or along the treats or something like
10:36:58 that, and that's the differentiation between the two things
10:37:01 that you saw.
10:37:02 The tree steward program.
10:37:07 And also they are a couple of years apart, is because I'm
10:37:12 the person who will help the city.
10:37:14 Kathy and I have already started the tree steward program.
10:37:17 We already have the first program up in Seminole gardens
10:37:23 neighborhood a couple weeks ago.
10:37:24 So we have already gotten through some of these things.
10:37:26 Education is a big part of this.
10:37:28 So work smarter.
10:37:32 Sometimes it doesn't take much to do that.
10:37:34 My job is to provide educational opportunities.
10:37:37 So that's what that is.
10:37:38 The other one is actually training for city employees and
10:37:44 people who own bigger natural areas.
10:37:48 The city owns some big parks and natural areas and does not
10:37:51 necessarily have the people on staff with the expertise to
10:37:54 do the types of management that might be appropriate.
10:37:59 So I gave myself a two-year time to get that in there.
10:38:07 >>HARRY COHEN: Councilwoman Capin.
10:38:13 >>YVONNE CAPIN: (off microphone)
10:38:18 I noticed that -- and this pertains to the fact that we are
10:38:20 on the right-of-way right now, aged and diseased trees are
10:38:25 being brought down and replaced.
10:38:28 I read that.
10:38:30 What I am wondering -- and the other question I was going to
10:38:32 ask is about the developers, and maybe bringing together a
10:38:36 menu where they can -- you answered that, that that's
10:38:41 already in the works on how that's going to take place,
10:38:44 where we don't have all the same species because it's the
10:38:47 least expensive.
10:38:48 So that's very good.
10:38:50 What I wanted to know was, do we have, or how do we deal
10:38:56 with diseased and aged trees on private property?
10:39:03 Do we have anything?
10:39:05 Because that can be very detrimental to the homes in the
10:39:14 Kathy seems to have something.
10:39:16 And it's not a question for you.
10:39:19 It is a question for our staff.
10:39:20 >> I will give you a brief version of it quickly.
10:39:24 Kathy Beck can answer it as well.
10:39:27 Private property trees, they are the responsibility of the
10:39:30 private property owner.
10:39:31 We do have a provision in chapter is it for condemnation of
10:39:35 trees specifically.
10:39:35 So we have situation where is we might have an elderly
10:39:38 resident or something that doesn't have the money to deal
10:39:43 with the tree falling down or falling apart, where we can --
10:39:46 and Kathy Beck worked really hard on this with Ernie Mueller
10:39:51 and code enforcement to get that provision passed in the
10:39:53 code -- but we can go out and judge the tree, and then work
10:39:59 on getting it removed.
10:40:00 And code enforcement works with partners, private people, to
10:40:04 actually try to get the tree removed as well.
10:40:07 So we do that, not to the expense of the city in those
10:40:11 situations, when maybe you have someone that can't afford to
10:40:15 do it.
10:40:16 But the bottom line is, private property trees are your
10:40:20 responsibility as a private property owner.
10:40:24 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Because I did bring this up when we had the
10:40:26 storm that came it through in 2011.
10:40:29 And little tornadoes touched down, came down Gandy, along
10:40:34 there, and what I noticed in the neighborhood that I was
10:40:37 living in at the time, that it was quite disastrous what
10:40:43 happened with those trees in that neighborhood.
10:40:45 And the neighborhood was very modest, and one of the little
10:40:52 tornado twisters touched down in my backyard and it looked
10:40:56 like a bomb exploded, and it caused about a thousand dollars
10:41:01 to clear the backyard.
10:41:03 But I know that many of the neighbors did not have the
10:41:07 wherewithal to be able to trim those trees and be able to
10:41:10 get that.
10:41:11 So my concern was that -- and right now -- and this again is
10:41:20 another neighborhood, the house next door is foreclosed, and
10:41:22 the tree that is there -- I'm afraid to look today because
10:41:27 we had such wind yesterday -- about three in the morning,
10:41:32 about six months ago or so, I heard a crash, and in the
10:41:35 morning, very close to the house, a limb about 8 inches
10:41:41 around, I had to call lawn to come and cut it.
10:41:46 And the tree, it's on foreclosed property.
10:41:50 But it's obviously diseased.
10:41:53 And I'm looking at it every time thinking, one of these days
10:41:58 that tree is going to topple over, and either on the house
10:42:03 that I'm living in or the foreclosed house.
10:42:06 But it is a concern.
10:42:07 And I'm glad to hear that that process is there.
10:42:10 And I wasn't aware.
10:42:13 >> And I do want council just in general from the comments
10:42:17 that we heard so far, you.
10:42:19 Received the word specifically but what you are getting at
10:42:21 is something that we are on all the time and obviously
10:42:27 picking the right tree and the right place, because the
10:42:30 trees are actually in the right space, right soils, and we
10:42:33 don't have future problems, or as many of them, but
10:42:35 maintenance in general is something that isn't thought about
10:42:40 too much.
10:42:40 We think about making it pretty when we plant it but
10:42:46 long-term maintenance is key F.those trees are maintained
10:42:48 and grown in the right place and with the right nutrients
10:42:51 are provided, provide the environment to grow them right,
10:42:58 they can live longer and they won't have limbs falling off
10:43:02 And there are always circumstances.
10:43:04 But the maintenance is one. Key pieces in this, too.
10:43:06 >> It absolutely is.
10:43:08 And I have trimmed the sides but unlawful what's happening
10:43:17 is that now everything, all the branches are leaning one
10:43:20 So you have this side.
10:43:23 And again, I see that in neighborhood after neighborhood,
10:43:26 especially in the neighborhood where like you said,
10:43:32 education is key to being able to bring those trees up to
10:43:36 where you don't have a situation where you have these huge
10:43:40 aged and/or diseased trees.
10:43:43 So thank you for that.
10:43:44 And thank you for the information.
10:43:46 >> And of course it takes time to change, and that's what
10:43:55 the plan is all about, is moving in that direction.
10:43:58 The tree steward program actually comes out of three
10:44:02 different focus groups that we ran.
10:44:04 So Ybor, Tampa Heights, and Seminole Heights.
10:44:08 We met with -- we ran focus groups, and met with them
10:44:14 numerous times, and asked them, basically, what we said was,
10:44:20 if we gave you a tree, would you take it?
10:44:23 And if not, why?
10:44:25 And many people would take the tree and plant it, but many
10:44:29 people told us that they wouldn't take it because they
10:44:33 didn't know how to plant it, how to take care of it, how to
10:44:37 recognize if there was a problem with it, and in reality,
10:44:41 when you look at that list of those, those are the things
10:44:46 they told me.
10:44:47 They said teach us how to do this and then we'll take the
10:44:50 tree and plant it.
10:44:51 And if we do that we wind up with the right tree in the
10:44:53 right place.
10:44:54 We wind up with many fewer problems like you are talking
10:44:58 That's the idea.
10:45:00 This goes to answer a question about tracking, and about
10:45:05 public and private partnerships through a grant, again,
10:45:10 through the U.S. forest service and the Florida forest
10:45:14 My associate Dr. Landry is heading this up but we have been
10:45:20 working with the City of Tampa and the University of South
10:45:21 Florida to create an online way of mapping the trees in the
10:45:27 urban forest that anybody can do.
10:45:31 That citizens can do, okay?
10:45:34 So the image that you have here, this happens to be Hyde
10:45:38 I had a forest intern here.
10:45:41 He was just about done with his forestry degree, and we were
10:45:45 testing him so I sent him out to Hyde Park.
10:45:48 I received just go out and map all the fruit trees in Hyde
10:45:50 Park, you know.
10:45:52 So we now have a system where anyone can go in and begin to
10:45:57 map the trees in their neighborhoods, identify them, and
10:46:00 talk about them, and share the information on Facebook and
10:46:04 twister and everything else.
10:46:06 I promise you, I don't do, but I know that folks do, and
10:46:10 this needs to be done.
10:46:11 It's a good thing.
10:46:13 Social connections.
10:46:14 But also what's happened is that this technology that the
10:46:19 city has participated in developing with the University of
10:46:22 South Florida, University of Florida, is being used by the
10:46:26 urban forestry coordinator to go out and look at those push
10:46:30 routes, and to ascertain hazardous conditions, because in
10:46:34 this system, you can actually put in the information and
10:46:38 track those hazardous conditions over time.
10:46:41 So that begins to address the question that you had, how do
10:46:44 you track these things?
10:46:45 How do you know where they are?
10:46:46 Well, you have actually got the system in place.
10:46:49 It's right there.
10:46:54 Going back, this goes back again to the question about
10:47:01 Alternatives for action that you see really are actions.
10:47:06 They are what they call smart objectives.
10:47:10 They have actually got numbers, time lines, you are to do
10:47:14 this by this, and so that was done very deliberately.
10:47:17 In fact, the original work orders as you all signed off on
10:47:20 to produce this asked for that.
10:47:23 The specific objectives that are viable.
10:47:27 What we show you here is that one of the recommendations for
10:47:30 the five-year plan is to create an advisory committee on
10:47:34 natural resources, to take the place of that steering
10:47:38 committee, to make sure the broadest cross section of the
10:47:43 private world in the city is to review how the plan is
10:47:47 implemented and how it moves along, also, and that that
10:47:51 works in conjunction with the internal technical advisory
10:47:55 committee, the individuals that the directors have
10:47:58 identified earlier on, and so this review and this dialogue
10:48:02 continues to have, that the city continues to have the
10:48:06 dialogue with the private sector because, again, it's a
10:48:11 The trees are not just owned by the city.
10:48:13 >>HARRY COHEN: Let me make a suggestion that we try to move
10:48:17 along a little on the presentation.
10:48:18 I know you want us to adopt this, and we scheduled about 30
10:48:24 minutes for this, and we are going over, and we have a long
10:48:27 day ahead of us.
10:48:28 >> And that's perfect.
10:48:38 This is the last slide with any substance to it so it's
10:48:45 Again, the five-year management planning cycle is tied to
10:48:50 the five-year cycle of urban forest analysis.
10:48:54 And it's the information that we received from that urban
10:48:58 forest analysis that directly feeds into the vegetation part
10:49:03 of the criteria.
10:49:04 So you can begin to judge whether the right trees are being
10:49:09 planted in the right place, whether it's all moving in the
10:49:11 right direction.
10:49:13 So it's a way of assessing trends in the urban forest.
10:49:18 Its health, it's size, it's composition, it's vigor, and its
10:49:27 Finally I will leave you with that picture because that's
10:49:30 one of my favorites, you know.
10:49:32 It's been a pleasure to work with the City of Tampa now for
10:49:36 almost eight years, actually.
10:49:38 But this plan was a real pleasure, because all of the
10:49:42 different perspectives that were brought to bear were great.
10:49:48 Whether it was meeting with the Tampa builders association,
10:49:51 or whether it was working with the department of public
10:49:54 works, parks and recreation, planning, wastewater, all of
10:49:59 it, it was a great dialogue.
10:50:04 Every single word that you see within this plan was vetted
10:50:08 out and practically written, if not literally written, by
10:50:12 the people in the internal technical advisory committee, and
10:50:16 the steering committee, and then of course reviewed, and an
10:50:23 expert in the terms of technology and the science, not
10:50:26 written by me, not written by sawn Landry, written by the
10:50:29 City of Tampa, its residents, business people, its
10:50:33 government, for the City of Tampa.
10:50:35 And, by the way, that image -- and I will throw it up there
10:50:38 one more time because I love it so much, if we can put it
10:50:43 back up there, a great image of parks and recreation in the
10:50:47 summer programs, which I participate in, because I love
10:50:52 nothing better than to.
10:50:57 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you so much for a marvelous
10:51:00 I think from our point of view, what's so excite being this
10:51:03 is that as we work through the different land use
10:51:06 applications that come through, the idea that staff has
10:51:10 always been able to work with people to determine exactly
10:51:12 what the right trees are to go in the right place,
10:51:16 Councilman Suarez talked a lot about when, but if they're
10:51:19 were things about drought power and it's terrific that we
10:51:26 are going to zero in on these things and do things that 50
10:51:30 years from now to make sure that the tree canopy is healthy
10:51:33 and vibrant and that the city looks as beautiful as it does
10:51:37 Thank you so much.
10:51:38 >> Thank you.
10:51:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: Where was this picture taken?
10:51:42 >> Oh, this picture?
10:51:49 I thought it was Rowlett when I looked at it -- thought it
10:51:55 was Rowlett.
10:51:56 >> The tree was alive and healthy and wonderful.
10:51:59 A natural playground.
10:52:00 >> So many beautiful trees in this city.
10:52:03 I think that you asked us to actually adopt the plan this
10:52:07 >> Actually, if you could just make the motion to have us
10:52:10 bring back at your next session the resolution to accept the
10:52:13 plan, emphasizing we are going to move forward with our
10:52:16 strategic step.
10:52:17 >> We have a motion from Councilwoman Montelione, seconded
10:52:20 by Councilman Reddick to bring back a resolution adopting
10:52:25 the City of Tampa urban forest management plan on November
10:52:29 21st at 9:30 a.m.
10:52:35 Do I hear anyone not in favor?
10:52:40 The motion passes, and we will see you on the 21st.
10:52:45 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Thank you.
10:52:46 I forgot to mention Mr. Rob Irvin.
10:52:50 He leads our forestry division with the Parks Department and
10:52:53 not just fruit trees but all public realm trees.
10:52:56 And on his partnership with Kathy Beck, and his crew is
10:53:01 amazing, obviously Mr. Reilly, and we wouldn't be able to do
10:53:07 our job without them as well.
10:53:08 I wanted to put them on the record also.
10:53:10 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you to all of you for everything that
10:53:13 you do and all your hard work.
10:53:15 We see the results of it every day when we are out there.
10:53:19 Before we adjourn to the evening, going to new business,
10:53:24 councilwoman Capin.
10:53:26 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.
10:53:26 I have of a few things here.
10:53:29 I would like to -- I respectfully request that agenda item
10:53:34 number 1 be continued to a future date in February.
10:53:38 That item was at 5:00 p.m. today.
10:53:41 >> Second.
10:53:45 >>HARRY COHEN: We have a motion from councilwoman Capin,
10:53:47 seconded by Councilman Reddick.
10:53:49 All those in favor please indicate by saying aye.
10:53:54 >>YVONNE CAPIN: While we are doing that, I think everyone
10:53:56 got a copy of the committee you had members that are up for
10:54:05 renewal, and everyone decided that they wanted to stay on
10:54:08 board for another two years with the exception of Dr.
10:54:13 Robinson from HCC, because of added responsibility.
10:54:19 So that would be a new appointment by Councilman Reddick.
10:54:23 And at that time we can approve them.
10:54:24 But I request that we -- I would like to make the motion to
10:54:28 approve the candidates for that committee.
10:54:33 Thank you.
10:54:34 >>HARRY COHEN: We have a motion from Councilman Capin,
10:54:37 seconded by Councilman Montelione.
10:54:40 Any discussion?
10:54:41 All in favor? Opposed? Okay.
10:54:44 Before we move on, two things.
10:54:48 First of all, because of the fact that we are postponing the
10:54:52 5:00 item tonight, it will not require anyone to be here
10:54:56 until 5:30.
10:54:57 So we will reconvene tonight at 5:30.
10:55:00 The second thing is, I neglected to take public comment on
10:55:03 the workshop item that we just talked about with the trees,
10:55:08 but I don't see anyone that wishes to speak to us about it.
10:55:12 So I think that that was probably an error without any
10:55:16 So I apologize.
10:55:18 Mr. Shelby, did you have something you wanted to ask?
10:55:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Just to clarify, Councilwoman Capin's
10:55:23 motion on the report that's being removed from the agenda
10:55:27 for tonight, she will come back to set the date.
10:55:31 Because the date wasn't set, just sometime in February.
10:55:33 For purposes of the record it will come back and you will be
10:55:35 able to set the date.
10:55:37 >>HARRY COHEN: Yes.
10:55:39 Thank you.
10:55:40 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I will bring that back.
10:55:41 Also, I would like to amend -- a motion that I made on
10:55:47 October 17th, and it was for the legal department to be
10:55:52 requested to appear before council on December 5th under
10:55:55 the staff reports, 2013 to provide a report draft ordinance
10:56:00 regarding amendment to chapter 6, business regulation, city
10:56:04 code, regarding regulation.
10:56:06 And it says here that I think it's the sale of alcoholic
10:56:10 I need to correct that, because what I should have said at
10:56:14 that time was that the sale of alcoholic beverages on
10:56:18 premise establishments only.
10:56:22 On premise.
10:56:24 >>HARRY COHEN: So far we have a motion from councilwoman
10:56:27 Capin, seconded by Councilwoman Mulhern to clarify the
10:56:32 language in the staff report -- excuse me, in the proposed
10:56:35 ordinance that's coming back.
10:56:37 All those -- is there any discussion on that motion?
10:56:39 Hearing none, all those in favor please indicate by saying
10:56:45 Motion passes.
10:56:47 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I would like to make a motion to present a
10:56:49 commendation to the Tampa Hillsborough expressway authority
10:56:52 in honor of their 50th anniversary, and the commendation
10:56:57 at their celebration luncheon on November 18th.
10:57:00 >> Second.
10:57:01 >>HARRY COHEN: We have a motion from councilwoman Capin,
10:57:04 seconded by Councilman Reddick.
10:57:06 All those in favor?
10:57:11 >>YVONNE CAPIN: And then a couple more things here real
10:57:14 Our Parks Department, the Parks Department is having an art
10:57:21 show, the eleventh annual made by hand heart show at
10:57:26 Cotanchobee park from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m.
10:57:29 And if you have a guest over at the holiday weekend which is
10:57:33 Thanksgiving weekend and are looking to start -- to shop for
10:57:37 the next following holiday season, this is a perfect place
10:57:42 to be.
10:57:42 It's made by hand art show exhibit, Cotanchobee park, and
10:57:49 it's presented by our Parks Department here in the City of
10:57:55 And last but not least, again the free shots for dogs and
10:58:00 cats, November 16th, at Williams park, from 9:00 a.m. to
10:58:04 1:00 p.m., and this is sponsored by the Humane Society, the
10:58:09 University of Tampa, the Hillsborough County animal
10:58:12 services, I'm sorry, and this weekend, this coming -- yes,
10:58:19 this Saturday.
10:58:21 I'm sorry, November 16th.
10:58:22 So if you have your dog or cat, bring them by for free
10:58:28 I volunteered a couple of years ago, and we did over 700
10:58:33 cats and dogs.
10:58:36 Williams Park at 4362 East Osbourne Avenue in Tampa.
10:58:56 >>FRANK REDDICK: Williams Park.
10:58:58 Our dogs and cats.
10:59:02 >>YVONNE CAPIN: That's it.
10:59:02 Thank you very much.
10:59:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: I just have one item, an amendment.
10:59:08 Last council meeting, I had requested a commendation for the
10:59:14 John F. Kennedy day, and I was under the impression they
10:59:18 would do it the morning.
10:59:19 They want me -- I found out they want to present it before
10:59:26 So I would ask that be presented on November 21st at
10:59:31 9 a.m.
10:59:32 >> We have a motion for commendation on November 21st at
10:59:36 9 a.m.
10:59:36 Motion made by Councilman Reddick, seconded by Councilwoman
10:59:41 All those in favor? Opposed? Okay.
10:59:44 We'll do that. That's it.
10:59:49 Councilwoman Mulhern.
10:59:51 Councilwoman Montelione.
10:59:54 Okay, then we are in recess until 5:30 p.m. tonight.
10:59:57 >>THE CLERK: We need to receive and file.
11:00:02 >> We have a motion to receive and file from Councilman
11:00:05 Reddick, seconded by Councilwoman Montelione.
11:00:07 All those in favor? Okay.
11:00:10 We will see you at 5:30.
11:00:12 (City Council workshop adjourned.)
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