Tampa City Council
Thursday, January 30, 2014
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09:02:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: City Council is called to order.
09:04:30 The chair yields to Yvonne Yolie Capin.
09:04:33 >> Today's invocation will be administered by Reverend
09:04:38 Smith, retired, university of south of Florida, served as a
09:04:41 member of the faculty in the school of social work 1998, and
09:04:53 served at Stanford university medicine school from 1968 to
09:04:59 We welcome Dr. Smith, and immediately after the invocation,
09:05:07 please rise and remain standing for the pledge of
09:05:10 >> Reverend Smith: Good morning.
09:05:20 To our City Council, everyone, I'm a member of Allen temple
09:05:28 AME church.
09:05:30 Dr. David green is the pastor.
09:05:32 It's the privilege of my dear wonderful friend Yolie Capin,
09:05:38 City Council woman, to deliver this morning's prayer.
09:05:41 Would you please bow your heads for the prayer?
09:05:45 Once again we bow our heads in humble meditation and prayer,
09:05:49 thanking you, our heavenly father, for waking us up this
09:05:52 morning, starting us on our way to the land of the living.
09:05:56 Lord, you did not have to do it, but you indeed did it, and
09:06:01 we are glad.
09:06:01 Thank you.
09:06:03 The Lord is my Shepherd, I shall not want.
09:06:06 You lead us.
09:06:13 Heavenly father, we ask you to continue to protect our City
09:06:16 Council persons as they strife each and every day as they
09:06:22 study the needs of our community which is constantly
09:06:24 changing and growing.
09:06:26 Please continue to guide their decisions and discussions as
09:06:33 they strive to create the safest and most prosperous city
09:06:37 within the State of Florida, setting the ethics and
09:06:41 standards necessary for the successes they strife toward.
09:06:45 Heavenly father, continue to guide their decisions and
09:06:48 discussions in keeping with the needs of their community and
09:06:52 its people.
09:06:53 Keep them forever mindful of the roles, and to always seek
09:06:59 changes that will benefit the entire community in all
09:07:02 aspects of this daily living.
09:07:05 Lord, this is a very concerned and dedicated efficient City
09:07:10 Council, and I'm asking, we are asking, for your continued
09:07:15 guidance and support, as they manage the obligations and
09:07:22 responsibilities to their constituents.
09:07:25 This is a very humane board with their concerns being the
09:07:29 greatest possible development and growth for their
09:07:34 Be with them and continue to guide them on their journey.
09:07:37 All of these blessings we ask in the name of our heavenly
09:07:43 [ Pledge of Allegiance ]
09:08:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Roll call.
09:08:11 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
09:08:15 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Here.
09:08:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: Here.
09:08:18 >>MARY MULHERN: Here.
09:08:19 >>HARRY COHEN: Here most month here.
09:08:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Here.
09:08:25 Wow, what a crowd.
09:08:26 I saw the stairwells all full of people and everybody was
09:08:29 happy and everything a nice time and I wondered why. Then I
09:08:33 saw a reporter outside and I asked, what's going on?
09:08:35 You look like you are from England.
09:08:38 And he told me it was his birthday.
09:08:41 So, you know, reporters usually embarrass us sometimes.
09:08:43 We embarrass ourselves.
09:08:47 They just write on what we say.
09:08:49 So it's my turn to say happy birthday, Kevin ritrowski, 46
09:08:59 years old.
09:09:00 [ Laughter ]
09:09:01 [ Applause ]
09:09:08 Okay, presentation of police Officer of the Month by Mr.
09:09:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, council.
09:09:18 It's my honor to present to you this morning detective
09:09:21 Charlotte can field woods, Officer of the Month for January
09:09:32 >> Chief Newman, Tampa Police Department.
09:09:34 It's kind of appropriate that I am here today for our Chief
09:09:37 Castor to give Detective Sharla Canfield this award.
09:09:40 Back in 2010 and 2011 when TurboTax seemed to be the word on
09:09:45 everyone's list, it was Sharla Canfield and a few other
09:09:48 detectives in the north end of district 2 that began to work
09:09:51 these type of tax fraud cases.
09:09:53 Well, back in January '13 of last year the department
09:09:57 established a tax fraud investigative fraud that handled
09:10:01 major fraud cases to include tax fraud, and one of the folks
09:10:05 that was a no brainer to put on that unit was detective
09:10:08 Sharla Canfield.
09:10:10 Over the course of this year, I am just going to highlight
09:10:13 about three cases that she was able to bring to a successful
09:10:17 The first one of all, one of our local malls where folks put
09:10:22 those devices on credit card readers on an ice cream store
09:10:26 and kiosk inside one of the major malls and were able to
09:10:29 take everyone's identity and really delete some of their
09:10:32 fund, detective Canfield took that case using all of her
09:10:36 resources, and her resources are pretty vast.
09:10:39 She worked with the U.S. secret service.
09:10:41 She works with the U.S. attorneys office and she's deputized
09:10:45 with the U.S. Marshall.
09:10:46 So is the entire unit from the criminal bureau that works
09:10:50 these investigations.
09:10:51 Her tireless efforts resulted in a search warrant and we
09:10:55 arrested those folks and were able to retrieve the devices
09:10:57 that they used to be able to take everyone's money from
09:11:00 these retail establishments.
09:11:02 Later on in the year, she had another tax fraud
09:11:04 investigation involving tax fraud TurboTax.
09:11:08 These folks, we found, moved up to Wesley chapel, and
09:11:11 through her hard work and dedication she found out that they
09:11:15 had taken over $50,000 in tax fraud.
09:11:21 Both those folks arrested are now awaiting federal
09:11:24 prosecution, is working its way through the courts.
09:11:26 The last case was pretty dicey.
09:11:28 We found out the bad guy was a suspect in this case.
09:11:31 Again, doing a lot of fraud investigations, fraud cases
09:11:35 involving innocent victims, and he was on federal probation
09:11:40 for firearms violations.
09:11:42 Realizing that that was a dangerous situation, she used her
09:11:45 resources again from the state, local and federal level to
09:11:50 include also our swat teams, and that search warrant yield
09:11:53 add good cache of weapons, besides the cache, the TVs and
09:11:59 some of the other items used ton seeing.
09:12:02 She's a dedicated individual.
09:12:04 She brings a tremendous amount of resources to bear with
09:12:07 each and every one of our cases, whether it's a local or
09:12:11 state case or federal case.
09:12:12 She has a wonderful working relationship with all our
09:12:15 partners in the area, and for her dedication and commitment
09:12:18 to those victims that sometimes we forget about, and you
09:12:22 hear about all the time, in the paper, she is being selected
09:12:26 as the department's January 2014 officer of the year.
09:12:31 [ Applause ]
09:12:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: On behalf of Tampa City Council we would
09:12:47 like to present you this accommodation for being chosen as
09:12:50 the Tampa Police Department Officer of the Month for January
09:12:57 [ Applause ]
09:13:04 And we would like to present you with some things.
09:13:12 >> Joe Durkin, Bright House networks, congratulations. We
09:13:19 would like to present you with one month of all of our
09:13:23 complimentary services.
09:13:24 >> Jim Carson, Bill Currie Ford.
09:13:31 On behalf of the Currie family and myself we would like to
09:13:34 present with you an engraved watch.
09:13:36 >> President of the Tampa PBA.
09:13:44 With me, Steve Carmack, vice-president of PBA, and our
09:13:52 Charlotte, I would like to present you with a gift
09:13:54 certificate for your work.
09:13:58 We appreciate the work you do for the Tampa Police
09:14:00 Department and for the citizens of the City of Tampa.
09:14:03 Thank you very much.
09:14:03 >> And I'm Marty from island flowers.
09:14:22 And through you all's efforts we got a tax refund for '10
09:14:26 and '11.
09:14:30 (Laughter and applause)
09:14:32 >> Good morning.
09:14:38 Jill Latecki with Tampa Theatre.
09:14:43 For you tickets to tire spring training classic series, and
09:14:48 you guys can fight over the candies.
09:14:54 >> Michael Kilgore on behalf of the Columbia restaurant, a
09:15:02 gift card for the Columbia.
09:15:08 >> Steve Stickley representing Stepp's towing service and
09:15:12 Stepps environmental clean-up now.
09:15:14 On behalf of Jim and Judy and Todd Stepp, we would like to
09:15:19 give you this, and a gift certificate.
09:15:28 Thank you.
09:15:37 >> I want to first of all thank everybody that's here, thank
09:15:40 the chief for allowing me to work on these types of crimes.
09:15:46 I would like to thank my family and my husband for being
09:15:48 supportive and giving me advice when I need it.
09:15:51 I would like to thank Capt. O'Connor for being a great role
09:15:55 model and mentor for several years.
09:15:58 I would like to thank my squad, past members and present
09:16:01 members for assisting.
09:16:03 It's always a team efforts and everybody comes together to
09:16:06 get the job done.
09:16:08 As the chief said in 2010, tax fraud raised its ugly head
09:16:14 here in Tampa, and I believe that the teams came together
09:16:17 and realized this was an epidemic and a problem and put
09:16:21 resources together to get this problem taken care of to the
09:16:23 best of their ability.
09:16:24 By doing that we were able to partner with local and federal
09:16:27 law enforcement agencies as well as the state attorney's
09:16:29 office and U.S. attorney's office to formulate a plan to
09:16:33 prosecute these individuals.
09:16:34 And I think since 2010 to now, I think we have come leaps
09:16:38 and bounds whereby from where we were, and I think it's
09:16:40 because the chief acted quickly on this in 2010 when they
09:16:44 first saw it as a problem, and I'm very happy to be part of
09:16:47 it, and I'm proud of way do and I enjoy what I do.
09:16:51 So thank you very much.
09:16:52 [ Applause ]
09:16:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Reddick will also handle number 2,
09:17:26 firefighter of the quarter.
09:17:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: It's my honor to recognize Tampa fire
09:17:32 department firefighter of the quarter for January 2014,
09:17:34 differentiation chief, Tracy walker.
09:17:42 [ Applause ]
09:17:45 >> Good morning, council.
09:17:46 Again, fire chief Tom Forward, Tampa fire chief.
09:17:51 It's our pleasure and honor to come before you this first
09:17:55 quarter of 2014 and present to you firefighter of the
09:18:01 The individual that's standing next to me has exemplified
09:18:05 himself in such a way with such a distinguished career with
09:18:08 over 30 years of service to this community.
09:18:11 Tracy Walker has been on the job since 1983, October
09:18:16 31st to be specific, and while he has distinguished
09:18:21 himself during service throughout the entire 30 years with
09:18:26 respect to promotions and advancements, many of us
09:18:29 understand that in the world of fire fighting especially
09:18:33 with respect to all hazardous response here in Tampa, with
09:18:38 over 80,000 alarms a year that can be quite taxing.
09:18:42 It is truly firefighting is a young person's game, and 20
09:18:48 years in the service you maybe consider moving to a staff
09:18:50 position or something a little less taxing on the body.
09:18:53 And that's one of the distinguishing elements that chief
09:18:56 walker brings to the table, and recognized by the entire
09:19:03 department to receive such a distinguished award.
09:19:05 As I said, he has over 30 years in the field starting out as
09:19:11 a firefighter, being promoted to paramedic, then promoted to
09:19:15 lieutenant, then promoted to captain, then promoted to
09:19:18 district chief and differentiation chief, which is the job
09:19:20 that he holds as shift commander for the City of Tampa now.
09:19:24 Stationed in downtown at headquarters in very high response
09:19:30 mode, again over 80,000 alarms.
09:19:33 He's generally the first chief officer on the scene before
09:19:36 the first fire hose goes into a house or any type of fire or
09:19:40 any major situation.
09:19:44 Anything off the property and every other major situation
09:19:47 that happens on his shift, he manages those things.
09:19:50 Not only that, juggling the resources that provides the
09:19:55 units and the staffing for 22 stations, plus the airport, on
09:20:00 a daily basis.
09:20:01 And with staffing and requirements and all the conditions
09:20:06 that happen in a 247 hours period, he does it with great
09:20:11 attitude, and in the course of all of that, mentoring,
09:20:14 developing, counseling, young chiefs, young captains, and
09:20:18 still making certain that the City of Tampa has the greatest
09:20:22 and the best resources in place, that any type of emergency
09:20:25 that might abound.
09:20:27 A few other things that Tracy has done that distinguishes
09:20:30 his career.
09:20:31 Not only has he been exemplary in fire, EMS, emergency
09:20:37 response mode, but he has been elected to the 754 which is
09:20:43 the collective bargaining unit, from vice-president, and
09:20:46 then at the time of president.
09:20:48 Three times selected to City of Tampa's pension board, nine
09:20:53 years served pension board, one year served takes chairman
09:20:57 of the board, and at another time, two or three years, he
09:21:01 was the vice chairman as well.
09:21:02 Tracy has always brought tremendous pride and respect for
09:21:09 the department.
09:21:11 So many other things in the community that he's been
09:21:13 involved with.
09:21:13 But he always said he's only doing his job.
09:21:20 He enjoyed the interaction with his troops.
09:21:22 He enjoyed interaction with the community and taking care of
09:21:25 this community.
09:21:25 And every day he says he's lived by the standards, to do the
09:21:33 best job he can do for his community and when he hangs up
09:21:37 his helmet and jacket he wants to know that he has made a
09:21:41 Chief walker has made a difference.
09:21:44 That's why he's recognized as our firefighter of the quarter
09:21:48 for the first quarter of 2014.
09:21:51 [ Applause ]
09:22:02 And I would be remiss if I did not also tell you who keeps
09:22:05 him held up, his lovely wife Denise is here with him as
09:22:10 [ Applause ]
09:22:13 As well as many members of our department that support them,
09:22:16 and really appreciate what he does for this department and
09:22:20 this community day in and day out.
09:22:22 Thank you.
09:22:22 >>FRANK REDDICK: Chief walker, on behalf of Tampa City
09:22:31 Council, and reverend forward we would like to present you
09:22:39 this commendation being chosen Tampa fire department
09:22:43 firefighter of the quarter January 2014.
09:22:46 [ Applause ]
09:22:54 And we also have a gift.
09:22:59 >> Michael Kilgore.
09:23:02 Chief, on behalf of the Gonzmart family, we have a gift card
09:23:07 for any of our restaurants.
09:23:11 Enjoy your meal.
09:23:13 >> Joe Durkin again from Bright House networks.
09:23:21 Congratulations on representing an outstanding fire
09:23:26 On behalf of Bright House networks, free month of service.
09:23:31 >> Congratulations.
09:23:42 On behalf of the Currie family and myself I would like to
09:23:46 present you with this watch.
09:23:50 Good job.
09:23:51 >> Jill Latecki from Tampa Theatre.
09:24:02 Thank you for everything you do for our community.
09:24:03 On behalf of the theater we would like to give you and
09:24:07 Denise an annual membership to our that's right.
09:24:10 After listening to all the accolades it sounds like you need
09:24:13 a day off.
09:24:18 [ Applause ]
09:24:22 >> Island Flowers.
09:24:24 I'm not presenting this to you.
09:24:27 I'm presenting it to the one who makes it all possible.
09:24:34 [ Applause ]
09:24:45 >> Steve Stickley representing Stepp's towing service and
09:24:49 environmental clean-up.
09:24:51 Very distinguished career you have had.
09:24:53 I would like to present this trophy to you and a gift card.
09:25:03 >> Thank you very much.
09:25:09 I'm extremely honored to be here today.
09:25:11 Normally I'm not at a loss for words but I am today.
09:25:14 I would like to thank my crews, and the City of Tampa.
09:25:17 Thank you very much.
09:25:20 [ Applause ]
09:25:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: We now go to item number 3.
09:26:49 It's a great honor to have some champions here.
09:26:53 Ms. Montelione is going to do the honors.
09:26:56 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Trying to gather everybody up.
09:27:02 Well, this morning, we honored our firefighter of the
09:27:09 quarter, and police Officer of the Month, of which we are
09:27:12 very proud.
09:27:13 And here in the city, we have a lot to be proud of.
09:27:17 One of those is our Parks and Recreation Department who is a
09:27:25 shining star in our city.
09:27:26 And this morning, as you can see, we have with us Brad
09:27:33 Baird, our director, and Brad, and Heather from our Parks
09:27:41 and Recreation Department.
09:27:43 The job that they do to provide services to the children of
09:27:46 our community is just amazing.
09:27:50 And we are especially proud of the work that they do along
09:27:54 with the parents and the coaches of these fine young people
09:28:00 that we have here today.
09:28:03 There are two centers in the city that provide gymnastics
09:28:07 services to the children of our city.
09:28:10 One is the Wayne Pappy center and the other is the New Tampa
09:28:16 center, and the achievement of these individuals is nothing
09:28:19 short of amazing.
09:28:22 I don't think there's any other -- and you guys can correct
09:28:26 me if I am wrong -- I don't think there's any other public
09:28:30 program that provides the level of services to the
09:28:33 gymnastics community than our public Parks and Recreation
09:28:44 [ Applause ]
09:28:48 And today the Tampa City Council is proud to congratulate
09:28:50 the City of Tampa parks and recreation gymnastics team for
09:28:54 their success at the 2013 USA gymnastics state championship
09:28:59 and the 2013 AAU state championship.
09:29:03 The level 5 team won the USA and the AAUA championship.
09:29:10 The level four team won the AAUA title with a level 2 and 3
09:29:15 teams finishing second for a public parks and recollection
09:29:18 division, I can't imagine the dedication and the work that
09:29:24 went in and the ability of these children behind me is just
09:29:30 The teams are made of athletes from those two centers in New
09:29:32 Tampa and the Wayne Pappy center, and we have commendations
09:29:37 to display to both of those great recreation centers.
09:29:40 So who are to receive these plaques?
09:29:47 They are pointing at each other.
09:29:53 Everybody come on up.
09:29:54 These are the people responsible for the success of these
09:29:57 young people behind me today.
09:29:59 So I am going to hand over the mike so they can all
09:30:04 introduce themselves, and as the chairman likes to say, have
09:30:07 their time on TV.
09:30:09 Everybody has TIVO or recording devices, DVRs, get them
09:30:19 >> My name is Diana Jackson, and very proud to work with the
09:30:24 City of Tampa and be a part of Tampa gymnastics.
09:30:28 We are very proud of these children.
09:30:30 I would like them to introduce themselves and tell you what
09:30:32 they are level they are competing.
09:31:31 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I want to invite everyone -- every year
09:31:34 there's be a exhibition of the work that is done by our
09:31:36 parks and recreation division.
09:31:41 The gymnastics classes and everyone puts on a top rated
09:31:46 show. I was there last year, and it is amazing to watch
09:31:49 these kids.
09:31:50 And it's really something that I think everybody should
09:31:55 afford itself the opportunities to go and just watch for a
09:31:57 little bit to see what a wonderful job that our staff does
09:32:03 here at the department of parks and recreation.
09:32:07 Thanks to everyone for coming out.
09:32:13 I would like you to do a little demonstration here but I
09:32:18 don't think we have quite the room.
09:32:20 [ Laughter ]
09:33:00 I have Mr. Suarez, and then I have a competition to offer.
09:33:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have seen a lot of flip-flops in this room
09:33:07 but none that were physically done.
09:33:09 How many young ladies are going to be in the Olympics in
09:33:16 [ Applause ]
09:33:16 Good luck and remember that you get to serve in the Parks
09:33:25 Department and congratulations on winning the championship.
09:33:32 [ Applause ]
09:33:34 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Okay.
09:33:35 As chair, this morning as I saw that demonstration, I said,
09:33:43 wow, what a great thing.
09:33:44 So I want to create a City Council team.
09:33:46 [ Laughter ]
09:33:48 To compete against you.
09:33:50 So I nominate, and we'll have to tab a roll call vote.
09:33:56 I want Lisa Montelione, Mulhern and Capin to challenge you
09:34:00 in what you do best.
09:34:02 And then three of you can come here and sit here.
09:34:08 Would you like that challenge?
09:34:12 >>LISA MONTELIONE: What about the guys?
09:34:14 Mr. Chairman, they are the most athletic.
09:34:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: We are going to be the judges.
09:34:26 Well, thank you very much.
09:34:29 Not only are you champions but you are great individuals.
09:34:31 >> One thing.
09:34:34 I just wanted to have ask if this commendation should be a
09:34:37 reminder about what you guys do.
09:34:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: And the combination is so nice and if you
09:34:42 give me all the names, I think you saw we will give each one
09:34:47 a little paper commendation.
09:34:48 >> I just think they walk into the gym every day and they
09:34:51 actually do the work.
09:34:52 But they need to understand the chain of command that really
09:34:57 support the program that put these kids into the positions
09:35:00 that they are in.
09:35:10 [ Applause ]
09:35:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thanks again for coming.
09:35:13 We are proud of each and every one, not only the city staff
09:35:19 but the participants.
09:35:23 Thank you very much for coming.
09:36:07 We governor to item number 4.
09:36:10 It's the Tampa Black History Committee.
09:36:15 And that was Mr. Reddick and Mr. Suarez.
09:36:23 Thank you.
09:36:23 >> Thank you for allowing us to be here this morning.
09:36:34 It is indeed our pleasure.
09:36:36 And thank Councilman Reddick and Suarez for allowing us to
09:36:40 be on today's agenda.
09:36:41 I am Frank Crum, president of City of Tampa Black History,
09:36:47 but I am here a group of talented and energetic people,
09:36:51 Vanessa Williams, Kathy ward, and Carla Jackson.
09:36:55 And we are here to promote an initiative that's a
09:36:58 combination of the City of Tampa Black History Committee,
09:37:00 the Tampa Police Department Black History Committee, and the
09:37:05 mayor's African-American advisory council, and that is
09:37:07 called unity in the community.
09:37:11 For 25 years the City of Tampa has been celebrating black
09:37:14 And we have had the opportunity to have individuals from all
09:37:18 walks of life and bring all of us folks together through
09:37:23 history, and today, we just want to allow others, let others
09:37:28 know exactly how we are doing this and why we are doing
09:37:33 Unity in the community is really all about making sure we
09:37:36 are not only celebrating our past but also helping those in
09:37:40 future generations.
09:37:41 First, on February the 6th, Hillsborough County will be
09:37:48 hosting their black history celebration.
09:37:50 That's going Sarasota place at noon.
09:37:53 The following week the City of Tampa Black History Committee
09:37:56 as well as the mayor's advisory council and TPD black
09:37:59 history will be celebrating the 26th annual black
09:38:02 history celebration, which will take place at the Tampa
09:38:04 Convention Center at 11 a.m.
09:38:07 Our theme is determined to make a difference, now and in the
09:38:11 future, and it's going to be a wonderful time.
09:38:15 And we are going to give you all the opportunity because
09:38:22 it's not only a celebration, it's a time for to you think
09:38:24 about what it means to be your best self.
09:38:27 And what I mean by that is, there's something that each of
09:38:29 us can do in the average everyday walk of life but sometimes
09:38:34 we feel a little bit discouraged.
09:38:36 And this gives us the opportunity to really think about it
09:38:39 and recharge our batteries and then go again and do what's
09:38:42 going to be best for us.
09:38:44 Our keynote speaker is going to be former Tampa Police
09:38:46 Department major, retired Tampa Police Department major,
09:38:51 General Honeywell.
09:38:53 And then on the following day, Saturday, the 15th of
09:38:56 February, we are going to have another event, and Captain
09:39:01 Ward is going to tell us about that.
09:39:03 >> Captain Ward, city of Tampa police department.
09:39:10 The second event will be at the Lowry Park, North Boulevard,
09:39:15 and basically it's an event that we would like to encourage
09:39:18 everyone to come out to.
09:39:19 It's a free event.
09:39:20 It's going to be music, games, food, more importantly, there
09:39:23 will be a free health and social services booth set up out
09:39:27 there so anybody that comes and gets any free services, it
09:39:34 will be a great day.
09:39:34 The event starts 11 a.m. to 2 p.m.
09:39:39 You all are invited and wish you guys would come out.
09:39:42 >> And as a symbol of unity in the community, the SunTrust
09:39:54 roof will be illuminated in honor of black history month.
09:39:57 And it will be illuminating on February 16th to 21 and
09:40:02 then again February 23rd to be 26th.
09:40:05 Tampa City Council and all viewers at home, we would
09:40:09 encourage you to come out to the event to support.
09:40:12 You will be rejuvenate.
09:40:14 You are going to have a wonderful time.
09:40:16 And thank you so much for your time.
09:40:18 And again, it's all about being determined to make a
09:40:21 Thank you all.
09:40:23 [ Applause ]
09:40:28 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Frank, before you leave, I noticed it was
09:40:30 February 14th is the first event?
09:40:33 >> That's right.
09:40:34 >> Are we everything any special Valentine's day
09:40:37 celebration, also?
09:40:38 You know, I have a wife, and --
09:40:45 >> We'll find a way to incorporate that into the program.
09:40:47 You aren't the only one that has a wife.
09:40:50 We'll make sure there's something to incorporate that
09:40:53 special day.
09:40:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you.
09:40:55 >>HARRY COHEN: Anyone else?
09:40:57 Thank you very much.
09:40:58 We are going to move on now to the workshop section of
09:41:02 today's agenda.
09:41:04 On workshop days, public comment occurs after each agenda
09:41:08 item is taken up by the council.
09:41:10 We have three minutes per speaker available for people in
09:41:13 the public that would like to express themselves.
09:41:17 I see the chair has returned.
09:41:19 However, since this is my item, I was wondering if you
09:41:22 wouldn't mind if I said a few words before we begin this
09:41:27 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I know you will do your best to say a few
09:41:31 >>HARRY COHEN: It's now January 30th, and as the year
09:41:36 kicks along, we get closer and closer to the period when we
09:41:40 start considering next year's budget, the budget for the
09:41:44 year that will begin in October, October 1st of 2014.
09:41:49 The fiscal year 2015 budget.
09:41:55 There are in my view two reasons to hold this workshop
09:41:57 One is stow talk about process, and another is to talk about
09:42:00 actually the substance of the city's spending priorities.
09:42:05 And I wanted to just take a moment to make a couple of
09:42:09 comments about process, because the impetus for this
09:42:13 discussion was the reality of what happens to us every year.
09:42:18 We receive the mayor's budget generally toward the middle to
09:42:22 end of the summer.
09:42:23 We have a fairly condensed period where we discuss the
09:42:28 recommended budget and hold a few public hearings, we hear
09:42:32 from our advisory committee, and then we generally have a
09:42:35 pretty short turnaround time before we need to approve the
09:42:40 budget for the beginning of the new fiscal year.
09:42:42 And the frustrations that I have heard expressed by council
09:42:45 members is that it would be much better for us if we could
09:42:49 start expressing ourselves, expression what our priorities
09:42:52 are, raising our questions early in the process rather than
09:42:57 once the budget is completed.
09:42:59 And what I wanted to propose today to everyone are just a
09:43:03 couple of ideas on things that we might do over the next six
09:43:07 to eight months, and then ask everyone what their thoughts
09:43:10 are on that.
09:43:12 The second issue of course is substance, and it has to do
09:43:15 with what each council member sees as important spending
09:43:18 priorities for the city.
09:43:19 I know that for council members that are district members,
09:43:24 we might be more inclined to talk about some of the things
09:43:27 that our neighborhoods need.
09:43:28 We have at-large council members who are here to represent,
09:43:33 of course, the needs of the entire city, and we all
09:43:36 represent the needs of the entire city.
09:43:38 So let me just put a couple things on the table regarding
09:43:40 process, and then depending on where everyone wants to go,
09:43:44 we can also then talk about substance.
09:43:46 I think there are really three different options that we
09:43:49 have in terms of how we might go about having some
09:43:55 discussions about priorities over the next six months or so
09:43:59 prior to the mayor's submission of the budget.
09:44:02 One would be to ask each council member to submit something
09:44:07 in writing, and to actually put the document together and
09:44:11 formally send it to the mayor as an expression of council's
09:44:17 Another would be to have a series of workshops where we
09:44:21 could discuss certain items, and actually air what's going
09:44:27 on in different departments.
09:44:30 And one of the advantages of doing that is that, of course,
09:44:36 it allows for public comment, it allows for very transparent
09:44:39 process that people can watch on television, and it
09:44:42 certainly allows each of us to represent our constituents as
09:44:46 we move through the different items.
09:44:48 And then finally -- and this is really the way that I think
09:44:51 it was done the last few years -- is the issue of whether or
09:44:56 not we just wants to continue to have private meetings one
09:44:58 on one with the staff and the mayor and the people that are
09:45:04 responsible for actually drafting and submitting the budget.
09:45:07 So those are just a couple of things that I think are ideas.
09:45:11 If there are other ideas, I'm certainly open to them.
09:45:13 Another issue that has come up is the issue of how we can
09:45:17 follow up on the recommendation of our budget advisory
09:45:23 committee that works so hard through the year.
09:45:25 And I definitely heard concerns from some of the council
09:45:29 members that we didn't really follow a mechanism where we
09:45:33 were following up on that, those recommendations, and that
09:45:36 advice, and really holding ourselves to the fire of making
09:45:43 some of those choices and changes that have been suggested
09:45:47 by them over the years.
09:45:50 So that's what I think the conversation is about in terms of
09:45:56 I would like to come back, once we talked about process and
09:46:00 talk about substance.
09:46:06 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mr. Chair, I just want to raise a
09:46:07 procedure question.
09:46:08 I think Mr. Cohen has jumped before to item number 5, we
09:46:16 should have public comment.
09:46:17 >>HARRY COHEN: I apologize.
09:46:22 If I went too quickly, I apologize.
09:46:25 Dimension that the public comment on the workshops would
09:46:27 happen after each item.
09:46:29 You mean the public comment on the first four items.
09:46:31 I apologize.
09:46:32 >>FRANK REDDICK: I just wanted to put that.
09:46:37 I know you are passionate.
09:46:38 >>HARRY COHEN: I was very excited to get started.
09:46:41 I apologize.
09:46:47 That's it.
09:46:49 I'm done.
09:46:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Let me stop for a second.
09:46:52 And let me go back to one through four.
09:46:56 With council's permission, I see two individuals from the
09:46:59 Lowry Park Zoo who have been here, and I would imagine they
09:47:03 want to say something under public comment.
09:47:05 So I am going to say items 1 through 4 and any other items
09:47:08 you may want to speak on.
09:47:13 You are here.
09:47:14 It's cold outside.
09:47:15 We welcome you.
09:47:16 Nine speak on 1 through 4 please come forward or any other
09:47:20 items you may want to speak on.
09:47:21 >> My name is Bob Rasmussen and I appear before you this
09:47:35 morning in my capacity as chair of the Board of Trustees of
09:47:38 Lowry Park Zoo logical society, which as you know operates
09:47:42 Lowry Park Zoo on land owned by the City of Tampa, Lowry
09:47:47 I am one of more than 4,000 volunteers who annually
09:47:50 contribute over 100,000 hours of service to the zoo.
09:47:57 I want to lift up the zoo's interest of working with you on
09:48:00 these budget discussions and being a participant in that
09:48:04 Nearly 25 years ago, the City of Tampa and the organization
09:48:09 that's now known as Lowry Park Zoo lodge cool society
09:48:13 entered into a public-private partnership to develop
09:48:15 afternoon new zoo for Tampa, to replace a small zoo that the
09:48:19 Humane Society calls one of the worth zoos in America.
09:48:23 The city contributed $9 million.
09:48:25 The society raised $9 million from donors.
09:48:27 And the Lowry Park Zoo opened in the 1988 on approximately
09:48:31 28 acres at Lowry Park and Sligh Avenue.
09:48:35 Since then it expanded to 63 acres, employs over 300 people,
09:48:39 serves a million visitors a year, has an annual operating
09:48:42 budget of about $18 million, virtually all of which comes
09:48:46 from earned revenue, donor contributions, and is recognized
09:48:50 nationally and internationally as a leading cultural and
09:48:53 conservation organization.
09:48:55 It is the most attended zoo in the southeastern United
09:48:57 States, and twice has been recognized takes number one zoo
09:49:01 in America.
09:49:06 Its work in rehabilitating injured Manatees is world
09:49:11 renowned, operates the only Manatee hospital in the world
09:49:16 and has treated more than 394 manatees since 1991.
09:49:19 It's a leader in animal husbandry and sustainable
09:49:22 populations of endangered wildlife, participating in
09:49:26 survival plans endorsed by the association of zoos and
09:49:30 For example, only three elephants have been born in North
09:49:33 America in the last 12 months and two of them were born at
09:49:36 Lowry Park Zoo.
09:49:37 By the way, they are pretty darn cute.
09:49:40 A recent third party assessment of the zoo's economic impact
09:49:47 with before and after spending of zoo visitors contributes
09:49:49 over $50 million to the Florida Tampa metropolitan economy.
09:49:54 Supports 615 full time year round equivalent jobs, and 180
09:50:00 part time jobs, and generates about $18 million in new
09:50:03 personal for workers residing in our area.
09:50:07 The zoo provides a great return on public investment earning
09:50:11 over 95 for every five dollars of public investment.
09:50:18 Unfortunately most of our facilities are more than 25 years
09:50:20 out and starting to wear out and look tired.
09:50:23 Although we work efficiently we do not generate sufficient
09:50:28 surplus to repair and maintain our facility.
09:50:30 We need the city's help of what's found in the ground such
09:50:33 as curbs, sidewalks, surfaces, and water and sewer systems.
09:50:37 So we can attract other financial resources to build above
09:50:40 the ground.
09:50:41 As you consider funding options in the coming year, I
09:50:44 respectfully ask that you include the zoo in your dialogue
09:50:46 so we can plan together a future with strong cultural
09:50:49 facilities and attract tourism and elevate the city's
09:50:53 nationally and internationally and contributes to the
09:50:56 quality of life in Tampa.
09:50:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you, Mr. Rasmussen.
09:50:59 >>MARY MULHERN: I just wondered, I thought we were going to
09:51:08 do the comment after the items.
09:51:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: There's no item on the zoo here.
09:51:12 >>MARY MULHERN: Right, but I think people were speaking on
09:51:14 the budget.
09:51:14 >>HARRY COHEN: We were going to do all of it now.
09:51:18 >>MARY MULHERN: Oh, we are doing it now?
09:51:21 >> My name is Troy atlas.
09:51:24 I am a Straz Center volunteer.
09:51:27 I serve on the Board of Trustees of the Straz, serve as vice
09:51:30 chair and swells as well as immediate past chair.
09:51:40 Thank you for your insightful work that all of do you as
09:51:44 board members and volunteers, helping the city's most
09:51:48 important cultural assets.
09:51:49 Looking back over the past 30 years we can all see the
09:51:52 magnificent difference, cultural facilities not only our
09:51:57 quality of life but also the impact it makes on our economy,
09:52:01 business attraction, tourism, local education.
09:52:03 Take the Straz Center, for instance.
09:52:07 27 years old, this 450,000 square foot facility remains the
09:52:13 largest institutional institution in the state, serving over
09:52:16 500,000 Tampa residents and visitors all year with the great
09:52:19 oath shows and arts from around the world bringing an annual
09:52:24 100 million to the local economy and partnering with more
09:52:26 than 30 local schools and communities agencies to enhance
09:52:31 education for over 50,000 students each year.
09:52:34 The nonprofits are led by the best and collective
09:52:39 industries, and these visionaries work constantly to make
09:52:42 sure Tampa has the best in arts center, zoo, aquarium, and
09:52:47 Today, review priorities and look to the future, we want to
09:52:52 urge you the continued support of the city owned cultural
09:52:56 We wants to work with you to develop a plan for the
09:52:58 continued capital needs of these aging facilities so it
09:53:02 remains attractive, impressive.
09:53:07 As officers and trustees of these organizations we can do
09:53:10 and raise a great deal of known operate programs for the
09:53:18 But we can't raise all of what is needed to care for these
09:53:24 facilities without the involvement of you our public
09:53:26 partners to help to create them.
09:53:28 For example, we just replaced the buildings' massive chiller
09:53:32 system, and we are borrowing funds to renovate our
09:53:35 26-year-old rest reams and upgrade our I.T. structure.
09:53:41 For that we ask you to work with us to keep it the best
09:53:50 destination in the world.
09:53:51 Thank you.
09:53:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
09:53:53 Next, please.
09:53:54 >> Good morning.
09:53:56 My name is Andre hill.
09:53:58 I'm a representative of several local CDCs concerning a
09:54:04 West Tampa InVision plan.
09:54:09 We had a meeting last evening with the mayor and
09:54:13 representatives from housing concerning the issues and the
09:54:18 development of the West Tampa area.
09:54:22 My purpose today is to inform the City Council that our
09:54:30 collective will be initiating a plan with the old Blake high
09:54:37 graduate, the Middleton graduate.
09:54:39 These people are the grandparents and great grandparents, a
09:54:43 lot of the residents in Tampa.
09:54:45 We are initiating a plan to reassemble all of those
09:54:49 businesses from the past, from Jackson Heights, Belmont
09:54:53 Heights, Central Park, and West Tampa, the Main Street
09:54:59 corridor, in that West Tampa area.
09:55:02 And we are going to be assembling them and advising them on
09:55:05 different methods of developing cultural Africancentric
09:55:18 businesses in.
09:55:20 So we met with Councilman Frank Reddick, if you can work
09:55:25 with him, we will be contacting you through him to our
09:55:31 concerns, these plans of the future for that development.
09:55:34 And we are hoping that you will work with them.
09:55:36 We are going to provide you with some information and
09:55:39 technologies on how we are going to make a difference in
09:55:42 that area.
09:55:43 Thank you very much.
09:55:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
09:55:47 Mrs. Montelione?
09:55:49 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I just wanted to mention that more than
09:55:51 happy to work with Councilman Reddick, but because of the
09:55:57 Sunshine Laws, Mr. Hill, if you would attempt to contact
09:56:02 each of us individually.
09:56:03 Because other than this public forum, we can't speak to each
09:56:06 other regarding items that might come before us.
09:56:10 So if you want to contact my office and meet with me
09:56:14 But I look forward to discussing in public some of the
09:56:18 things that you might bring up with Councilman Reddick.
09:56:23 Thank you.
09:56:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mrs. Capin?
09:56:27 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I would very much like to see that program
09:56:31 expanded to more diversity, because I have to tell you, my
09:56:36 grandmother was born on Main Street in 1908.
09:56:40 She was not African-American.
09:56:43 But it's very much part of that history.
09:56:45 So to include West Tampa, Jefferson high school graduates,
09:56:49 would be very inclusive.
09:56:51 I just wants to remind everyone of that fact.
09:56:55 Thank you.
09:56:55 >> Good morning.
09:56:59 My name is Linda Saul-Sena and I'm here this morning as the
09:57:03 championship of the Tampa Theatre board.
09:57:04 And I want to thank you for your leadership.
09:57:08 I think that's a marvelous idea for City Council to have
09:57:11 that opportunity to collectively put your ideas forth even
09:57:16 as the administration puts together a budget forts next
09:57:19 So you all are familiar with the Tampa Theatre.
09:57:22 In fact, so is the world.
09:57:23 I'm proud to say that when people think of one of the ten
09:57:27 greatest theaters, they think of the Tampa Theatre.
09:57:31 It's the icon for the city.
09:57:32 And the city wisely reinvested in the sign a few years ago
09:57:38 so it's the beacon of Franklin Street when people wants to
09:57:41 think of our community.
09:57:42 The Tampa Theatre has existed these years in partnership
09:57:45 with the City of Tampa.
09:57:48 We the board, the volunteers, the members of the theater,
09:57:52 raise the money for programs and activities.
09:57:55 The City of Tampa has graciously maintained our building and
09:57:59 helped us as we move forward to secure ownership of the
09:58:02 You know it's been a really wacky building lease, but we are
09:58:06 almost there, and we own the lobby with the newly
09:58:12 refurbished -- the place you buy tickets.
09:58:18 The box office, thank you, thank you.
09:58:26 [ Laughter ]
09:58:27 So we move onto the auditorium.
09:58:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I know, I know.
09:58:30 >> It's an older build, a lovely building, arched we need a
09:58:37 little upgrading of our roof.
09:58:43 And when would like when you consider the budget upcoming to
09:58:46 consider investing in a cultural facility that speaks to the
09:58:49 heart and soul of our community, as our Hollywood star
09:58:53 noticed, and invest with us in the theater.
09:58:56 We the volunteers, trustees, are personally donating towards
09:59:00 keeping things going there.
09:59:01 We need the city to continue to the good partner that you
09:59:04 have always been.
09:59:05 Thank you so much.
09:59:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
09:59:08 Next, please.
09:59:10 >> Pete Johnson, 510 east Harrison street.
09:59:28 You all can look through all of this and read the highlights
09:59:31 in it.
09:59:32 It's nothing I haven't talked to you about before.
09:59:37 Usually it's code.
09:59:38 The system doesn't work.
09:59:39 It doesn't follow the state statute.
09:59:42 We have maid major problems.
09:59:44 The biggest thing, though, that came up was that the mayor
09:59:47 put out a press release of 85% compliance by using civil
09:59:56 I would like to see some proof of that.
10:00:00 There is no way that it's possible.
10:00:04 The list of citations that I handed you, and I'm giving,
10:00:09 were before July of 2013.
10:00:12 In July of 2013 was a very first time code enforcement put
10:00:19 out a memo requiring civil citations to be rechecked.
10:00:24 The process that would work.
10:00:27 We don't get paid.
10:00:29 There is no compliance.
10:00:33 The judge gives them more additional time.
10:00:36 The last thing I want to say, I'm leaving the City of Tampa.
10:00:41 I'm leaving because of health.
10:00:43 My doctors have told me that I hate code enforcement so
10:00:48 seriously that it is affecting my health.
10:00:53 To a point that they say is survival mode.
10:00:55 So I'm giving up.
10:00:57 I'm giving up on people that keep calling me day and night
10:01:01 that live in apartment buildings that don't have hot water,
10:01:06 don't have heaters, have broken windows, asking for my help.
10:01:12 I report it to code enforcement.
10:01:14 They say, we have already checked that.
10:01:18 We have checked one apartment out of 20.
10:01:20 That means 19 are uninhabitable. I have one lady that's
10:01:26 having to move outs of an apartment because of black mold
10:01:30 growing in her place, and she is going into -- she went into
10:01:34 Tampa General just the other day.
10:01:40 If we do not supply the code enforcement department whenever
10:01:43 the money, the people, the equipment, and hold them totally
10:01:51 accountable for what they are supposed to do, we have got
10:01:58 I'm sorry, but the has taken a toll on my health and I'm
10:02:02 moving to St. Pete, actually treasure island.
10:02:04 I'm going to sit on the beach.
10:02:06 And I'll watch you from my laptop.
10:02:09 Thank you very much.
10:02:09 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you, Mr. Johnson.
10:02:16 I wish you well.
10:02:18 And I know I hope you start doing what you do here over in
10:02:28 St. Pete.
10:02:30 Make sure they are in compliance.
10:02:31 But let me ask you one question.
10:02:33 The document that I received about civil citation, many of
10:02:40 those who are not participating with the courts, it seems a
10:02:48 lot of those were coming out, they come to the court, and
10:02:50 they are given a fine, but you are down there at these court
10:02:59 Am I correct on that?
10:03:02 >> You are correct.
10:03:03 I am there every single month.
10:03:07 I take a count of who shows up, who doesn't show up.
10:03:10 I cross reference it with the city code list as well.
10:03:16 The only people that show up, 99% are African-American,
10:03:24 poor, uneducated people that are scared to death that they
10:03:28 are going to lose their home.
10:03:32 I worked with a lady off of "B" street, 86 years old, scared
10:03:38 to death that code was going to find her guilty because of
10:03:42 the garage was built in 1953 with an apartment on it.
10:03:51 Come on.
10:03:52 You know, we have to have some sense to this.
10:03:57 >>FRANK REDDICK: Do you have a suggestion for what we can
10:03:59 do pertaining to the banks?
10:04:05 Not showing up?
10:04:07 >> I'd sue them.
10:04:09 Now, I even talked to every city attorney.
10:04:14 City attorneys are not to do anything but allow a suit to
10:04:19 come against the city.
10:04:21 Well, you know, sometimes the city has to stand on its own
10:04:24 ground and take action.
10:04:30 Abatement go with the property.
10:04:32 Code fines don't go with the property.
10:04:34 I have been told that code fines are just a, quote, figure.
10:04:39 Interests not a monetary figure because it's so much higher.
10:04:44 The state statute says that every single violation needs a
10:04:51 Without that hearing, the City of Tampa has developed a
10:04:54 culture of forgiveness, and it's gotten outs of hand to the
10:05:01 points that the administration does not even follow its own
10:05:06 I'm sorry, something needs to be done.
10:05:11 It's a rat race.
10:05:13 >>FRANK REDDICK: We thank you.
10:05:15 And you come back and see us sometime.
10:05:16 >> I will, sir.
10:05:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Let me do this.
10:05:19 I need a motion for commendation.
10:05:23 Motion by Mr. Reddick, seconded by Mrs. Montelione on a
10:05:26 close vote with Mrs. Capin.
10:05:29 >> You are going to run me out of town on a rail?
10:05:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I don't have the mean to put the rail in.
10:05:34 >> We don't -- they don't have rails in St. Pete.
10:05:38 >> But I don't wants to what waive the rules.
10:05:41 I can tell what's going to happen.
10:05:43 All in favor say aye.
10:05:44 Opposed nay.
10:05:45 We are not getting rid of you.
10:05:47 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Mr. Johnson, it's sad that the work that
10:06:04 you do for the citizens goes uncompensated, and largely
10:06:11 sometimes by certain individuals unappreciated.
10:06:13 But I can tell you -- and I think you know this -- that I
10:06:16 appreciate everything that you do.
10:06:20 And when I first started in this position, you were the
10:06:25 first one I called to educate me about code enforcement
10:06:29 around the city.
10:06:31 It's nothing shorts of amazing, the dedication that you
10:06:34 have, to help those that are less fortunates than ourselves.
10:06:39 And I'm sorry we are losing to you St. Petersburg, but you
10:06:42 are not that far away, and you will be watching, so I expect
10:06:46 that I will still be hearing you from, and I look forward to
10:06:49 continuing the conversation.
10:06:50 >> Pete Johnson: Thank you.
10:06:53 And I would like to be say that this is the first in 20
10:06:56 years that the entire City Council has been behind,
10:07:01 including the code enforcement department, and holding them
10:07:04 For that I thank you and God bless you all.
10:07:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
10:07:08 Next p please.
10:07:09 >> Ed, Ed Tillou from Sulphur Springs.
10:07:20 Which is a code enforcement neighborhood.
10:07:23 I came to speak on two issues.
10:07:24 And by switching a little bit I only get to speak for three
10:07:29 minutes instead of six.
10:07:32 But, anyway, this is the first issue.
10:07:36 Well, this thing isn't on.
10:07:38 I don't know.
10:07:45 But the thing is, this isn't an issue of mine.
10:07:49 Colorectal cancer is a isn't a particular issue of mine. If
10:07:54 anything it would be transients osteoporosis like my leg by
10:08:03 But anyway, the thing is, you brought this to my attention
10:08:05 and the county commission just by doing things flagrantly
10:08:10 And the county commission gave an award to Mel's hotdogs.
10:08:15 What happened here was Quizno's was allowed to go out of
10:08:22 business and now the red carpet is being rolled out to hog
10:08:26 And the problem with this, processed meats.
10:08:32 Meat is very important.
10:08:32 Meat is your best protein source.
10:08:35 Milk is good, too.
10:08:36 But you actually get -- if you eat lean meat you get less
10:08:41 fat from meat than, say, 2% milk, which is of course better
10:08:45 than the regular milk.
10:08:46 But this is a very important protein source.
10:08:49 And then everybody is afraid of meat.
10:08:53 You get cancer.
10:08:58 Osage county had that as a joke.
10:09:01 You eat the animal's feces but now it has been elucidated.
10:09:06 The problem is the processing of the meats.
10:09:08 And they are reducing the sodium content.
10:09:10 Now, that bears a little on item 6, because as I said
10:09:14 there's a lot of butcher shops here, and when they slice the
10:09:17 meat it doesn't have as much of the preservatives as when
10:09:21 you buy them in these packets like I do and eat.
10:09:25 I'm not saying you can totally give it up, but to cut back.
10:09:30 And that's where Bloomberg made a mistake.
10:09:35 On sugar, he went to town on it and I thought it was only
10:09:38 poor nutrition and obesity but it turns out blood pressure,
10:09:43 And I got a little bit of feedback on that, up over 190.
10:09:48 And what happens is that I think he did, too.
10:09:51 And it's very hard to give up sugar.
10:09:53 But anyway, item 7, and item 7, I also speak about -- and it
10:09:58 was front page in the local paper that there is going to be
10:10:05 This is a week before this past one.
10:10:09 And this is very serious with respect to agriculture.
10:10:12 And that's why I put some things about the movie "War
10:10:17 But there's a very poignant episode that address that, the
10:10:22 turnips being blown out of the ground.
10:10:24 (Bell sounds).
10:10:31 >> We had three minutes for every workshop?
10:10:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: (off microphone) ... if you want at this
10:10:48 But the workshops be this, and then tough workshops for
10:10:53 three minutes on the remaining five 5, 6, 7 and 8.
10:10:57 There's two sections here.
10:11:02 Unless you got something else you want to bring, you can
10:11:04 bring it now.
10:11:05 You look like you are throwing a curve ball there.
10:11:09 Anyone else care to speak at this time?
10:11:10 I see no one.
10:11:12 And we go to item number 5.
10:11:17 I believe Mr. Cohen spoke partly on it.
10:11:19 And I appreciate the good work he's done.
10:11:22 And he's going to continue to speak.
10:11:23 >>HARRY COHEN: Let me give you a recap whereof we left off.
10:11:27 I had mentioned that there were really two parts, I think,
10:11:30 to the discussion process and substance.
10:11:33 I addressed a couple of items in terms of asking for
10:11:36 council's input and pleasure in terms of how we are going to
10:11:40 handle the process of expressing our priorities over the
10:11:43 next six months or so.
10:11:44 I would like to come back to the substance issue of what
10:11:47 each of our priorities are, and I'm sure every council
10:11:50 member will speak to that.
10:11:55 So the three ideas I put on the table was a document in
10:11:59 writing, a series of workshops, and then really the third is
10:12:03 sort of the continuation of the status quo, which has been
10:12:06 private meetings between council members and the staff.
10:12:08 >> I have Mr. Reddick, Ms. Mulhern at this time.
10:12:14 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
10:12:20 I like the first idea, and that is each Councilman put in
10:12:23 writing what we would like to see included as far as the
10:12:34 I think most of you know how I feel about the workshops.
10:12:38 We have more workshops, but I think it would be better if we
10:12:46 can put each item in writing, and then submit these items to
10:12:51 the mayor or to the finance person, and justification why we
10:13:03 support these items.
10:13:05 And I think that will eliminate having a lot of discussions,
10:13:12 everybody got their own personal feelings, personal belief,
10:13:15 but these three or four items, each Councilman come up with
10:13:25 one or two items and say what these recommendations are
10:13:29 going to be from council, and see if we can get that to
10:13:40 So I will support the first item that you mentioned.
10:13:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Ms. Mulhern?
10:13:45 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
10:13:46 I'm thinking maybe of a hybrid of your number 1 and 2.
10:13:51 And I would love to have my own budget.
10:13:56 I personally would like to see this -- we do that year by
10:14:01 year, council person by council person, meeting by meeting,
10:14:04 saying what we would like tock see happen.
10:14:06 It doesn't really have any effect.
10:14:08 But I think perhaps we could start out with each of us
10:14:12 coming up with what our priorities are, and then having a
10:14:14 workshop, and then if we voted as majority on what things we
10:14:21 would like to be see in the budget, we might be able to have
10:14:23 some effect, because in reality, when it comes budget time,
10:14:27 we could vote down the budget, and have the backup of watch
10:14:31 we wanted as a body to see happen.
10:14:35 I think if we all come up with our own budget it's not going
10:14:39 to really -- it's really only going to kind of confuse the
10:14:42 issue, unless -- so I think that makes sense to me.
10:14:47 You know, we could each come up with what we see as our big
10:14:51 budget priority.
10:14:53 I would base a lot of that on over the years
10:14:58 recommendations, we have got friend our budget advisory
10:15:00 committee, and take those into account as I make my
10:15:03 recommendations, and then we have a workshop or two where we
10:15:07 could see if there are some things that we could agree on
10:15:11 proposing as a council to do.
10:15:13 So that's my take.
10:15:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Ms. Capin?
10:15:19 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I also see the benefit of a hybrid.
10:15:21 I do believe that putting it in writing is important,
10:15:25 because we can be like speaking into the air and we would
10:15:33 have documentation as to what we ask for.
10:15:35 But I also believe that -- and not necessarily at a
10:15:41 workshop, but it does keep it in the public realm, reminding
10:15:46 people that this is a very important issue, and that for
10:15:51 them to take part in this budget analysis that we have.
10:15:58 So, therefore, if we could come up with a hybrid that would
10:16:03 be -- I think would be very beneficial to keep this in the
10:16:11 public view.
10:16:16 So the hybrid is something that I would support.
10:16:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, chair.
10:16:23 I agree with all my colleagues, Mr. Reddick's suggestion
10:16:27 about what our own priorities are, and we have to have a
10:16:35 spot for us to negotiate what those particular issues are
10:16:38 going to be.
10:16:38 I would suggest instead of a workshop, I believe -- and we
10:16:43 have our attorney here.
10:16:44 I was looking for our rules of procedure.
10:16:45 I think we can do have a special called meeting specifically
10:16:48 for the issue itself, which means that we can have
10:16:51 discussions that's public, and then we can make a decision
10:16:55 based on those priorities.
10:16:56 Because what's going to happen, I believe, is that I may
10:16:59 have a project or something within the budget, I think we
10:17:03 ought to look at, and everyone else has different ideas.
10:17:07 We still have to figure fought that number is 5, 10, $15
10:17:10 million, how do you actually put that together to make a
10:17:13 realistic recommendation for the administration?
10:17:15 Because we are going to have to look at other things that we
10:17:18 can't provide dollars for, for things that we really do
10:17:21 I think that the process of us as aboard coming up with
10:17:28 those suggestions is important, because we haven't done that
10:17:31 in a more concerted way.
10:17:34 So I believe that as Mr. Reddick suggested, we can look at
10:17:38 these suggestions, come forward at our special called
10:17:40 meeting, we can discuss each and every one of those, and
10:17:44 then after that, the special called meeting, make those
10:17:47 recommendations to the administration.
10:17:49 During the special called meeting, I believe, Mr. Shelby,
10:17:53 you know, that's usually on one issue, or one particular
10:17:58 issue, correct?
10:17:59 And I assume that it's kind of broad that we can say we are
10:18:03 talking about budget issues.
10:18:05 I don't think we will have any problems with our charter or
10:18:08 rules of procedure.
10:18:08 >> Actually, Mr. Suarez, you can do a special called
10:18:13 meeting, and may be scheduled for another time or day by
10:18:20 majority vote of council.
10:18:21 Set to take action on sensitive time matters will be
10:18:25 Traditionally there are noticed public meetings but they are
10:18:30 usually confined to a specific agenda item.
10:18:33 You also do have the option of having a special discussion
10:18:36 Council hasn't done that, but a special discussion meeting
10:18:41 shall be held for the purpose of discussing a single issue
10:18:45 of particular interest, and it shall not be necessary as a
10:18:48 condition of holding that meeting, that four or more members
10:18:51 of council are present.
10:18:53 Downtown need a quorum.
10:18:54 But obviously if you are all going to talk about the budget
10:18:56 you can all be there.
10:18:57 Any member of council may call a special discussion meeting
10:19:00 for any date, time and place by motion and approval of the
10:19:03 City Council at a regular meeting, and the only caveat is no
10:19:11 official action can be taken, and does not preclude you from
10:19:18 coming to a consensus setting forth what actions you wish to
10:19:21 take at a future meeting and then bringing it back.
10:19:24 >>MIKE SUAREZ: That's part of the reason for special call
10:19:27 we do have powers still, because special discussions are
10:19:30 very similar.
10:19:31 We did that.
10:19:32 I think our retreat was a special discussion meeting as
10:19:35 opposed to a special called meeting.
10:19:37 I think the special call, we can take action, and for us, I
10:19:41 think that once that discussion is done, then we can make a
10:19:44 We would like to see Sonia Little at our next meeting to
10:19:47 discuss these priorities.
10:19:48 And I think it's on all of us in the meantime, if we do set
10:19:53 a special call meeting specifically for budget items, that
10:19:57 we go and meet with the administration, talk about all the
10:20:00 issues that we want to be see come forward, so that when we
10:20:03 are having this special called meeting, that we are a little
10:20:06 bit higher up the hill as opposed to be starting from the
10:20:09 very beginning.
10:20:10 I think that there are some things that we really need to
10:20:13 talk about as a board so we can prioritize what our
10:20:17 selections are for budget and make sure that the
10:20:18 administration knows not only publicly but also privately
10:20:22 what we would like to be see.
10:20:23 I think that's an important part of the process, and I think
10:20:27 it's something that we should definitely do.
10:20:29 >>HARRY COHEN: Can I ask you a question?
10:20:34 I'm just trying to have a sense of everyone.
10:20:36 You are sort of saying that you are really want all three
10:20:41 You want a hybrid of all three.
10:20:42 Because you are suggesting private meetings one on one
10:20:46 between the council members and staff.
10:20:49 The workshop special called, special discussion, of course,
10:20:52 is just distinctions in terms of our process.
10:20:56 What about the issue of putting a letter in writing?
10:21:04 >>MIKE SUAREZ: When you say a letter in writing you are
10:21:06 talking about our priorities then after we made a decision?
10:21:10 >>HARRY COHEN: Well, that's a question.
10:21:11 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I think the meeting itself and the action
10:21:14 that we take will speak for itself.
10:21:16 >> That's the way I would look at it.
10:21:20 >>MIKE SUAREZ: And I don't have a problem with writing a
10:21:23 letter after that.
10:21:24 >>HARRY COHEN: I wouldn't mind writing a letter after we
10:21:26 are done with our discussions.
10:21:27 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Because once we come up -- and I apologize
10:21:31 for taking your time -- once we have made our priorities
10:21:35 known, among ourselves and then publicly, then we can say we
10:21:40 are going to write a letter specifically for these three,
10:21:45 five, seven things we want to be do in the budget.
10:21:48 I have no problem with the letter itself.
10:21:50 I think it just reiterates what we will have already have
10:21:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
10:21:56 Mrs. Montelione.
10:21:57 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you.
10:21:58 I agree with Mr. Suarez on having a special called meeting
10:22:02 rather than a workshop meeting.
10:22:04 Because it puts more emphasis on what we end up deciding out
10:22:13 of that meeting.
10:22:15 And agree also with at the end of that putting it in
10:22:19 But I think it's very, very important that we take the lead
10:22:26 from the public and from our constituents, because, you
10:22:29 know, it's not our budget.
10:22:31 You know, I don't look at it as the mayor's budget.
10:22:34 I look at it as the people's budget.
10:22:37 And prior to this meeting, a couple of weeks ago, I
10:22:41 developed a survey that was sent out to my constituents, or
10:22:47 all of those who expressed an interest in receiving
10:22:49 correspondence from me, and a lot of us talk about how New
10:22:55 Tampa isn't engaged.
10:22:57 Well, the responses that came back were predominantly from
10:23:01 New Tampa.
10:23:02 So we asked them to identify what part of town they were
10:23:07 from, north Tampa, Tampa Palms, New Tampa, and again the
10:23:11 majority of respondents were from New Tampa.
10:23:13 So I think that there is a desire for the public both on our
10:23:22 behalf and from them to be involved in this process.
10:23:26 I think too many of them feel like, you know, the budget is
10:23:30 decided, and then here you go, this is what we are going to
10:23:33 do and you are going to like it.
10:23:35 So I would advocate for the special call rather than the
10:23:41 workshop, and make sure that the public is invited, to come
10:23:53 from e-mails and express their opinions.
10:23:56 It's going to be very difficult bull looking forward to be
10:23:57 that new process.
10:23:58 >>HARRY COHEN: I just want to say thank you for that.
10:24:02 You know, I think that each of us has our own way of
10:24:06 engaging with our constituents to determine what we think
10:24:11 the priorities should be.
10:24:11 I think that's an excellent tool to use a survey like that.
10:24:15 Some of us will do probably things like that.
10:24:18 Others will handle in the our own way.
10:24:20 But I think between the seven of us we will probably end up
10:24:23 with a pretty good reflection of what the people's
10:24:28 priorities are.
10:24:28 And I think the fact that we are having this discussion now
10:24:31 on television really serves as an invitation to people that
10:24:36 are watching to contact any one of us with your thoughts and
10:24:41 feelings about what the city's priorities ought to be.
10:24:44 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mr. Chair, if we don't have further
10:24:51 discussion I would like to make a motion.
10:24:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Let me speak before and then I will give
10:24:58 you the floor.
10:24:58 Let me just say this.
10:25:00 At times, there was no TV here.
10:25:05 In fact there was maybe one receptionist, one aide, and a
10:25:08 staff member.
10:25:09 There were three people here.
10:25:11 There was one telephone here.
10:25:15 There was a little pigeonhole thing where you got your
10:25:20 And you know what?
10:25:21 It worked.
10:25:22 Now you have TV, you got the media reporting every day, and
10:25:27 you have a budget process, and guess what, on that budget
10:25:33 for first reading and second reading, you have five people
10:25:36 and the whole City of Tampa comes to speak.
10:25:47 They haven't given up.
10:25:49 I guess they feel comfortable.
10:25:50 And we have had some struggling years in this city and this
10:25:55 country for the last six, seven, eight years.
10:25:59 And we balanced the budget.
10:26:01 Yeah, we budged the budget but they don't tell you they
10:26:04 borrowed .5 million.
10:26:06 And I'm not talking about the administration.
10:26:08 I'm talking about all of us.
10:26:10 So what I'm hearing is this.
10:26:13 When I vote, I don't vote just for district 6. I vote for
10:26:17 the whole city.
10:26:20 I'm one seventh of something, 14.28% or whatever it is.
10:26:25 And I'm sure that the rest us feel the same way.
10:26:28 Every time, what's good for New Tampa is good for South
10:26:33 Tampa, what's good for East Tampa is good for West Tampa,
10:26:36 because we really live in the geographical area of the city.
10:26:40 And that means that have been we have gone a long way in a
10:26:45 short period of time.
10:26:47 You know, tonight an individual is going to be honored at
10:26:53 West Tampa's leading citizen.
10:26:54 He's 94 years old.
10:26:56 It so happens that I saw him this morning at a coffee shop
10:26:59 and I asked him, what are you going to say?
10:27:01 And he told me.
10:27:03 I said, why don't you tell the public watt was when you were
10:27:07 a kid?
10:27:08 And he said, no, I don't want to do that.
10:27:10 I want to talk about the facts.
10:27:12 But he told me what it was.
10:27:13 He used to deliver the Tampa times, and he had a route.
10:27:18 And I said, how many paved streets do you have?
10:27:21 He said, almost none.
10:27:22 He said, I had to put my bike through six inches of sand, I
10:27:27 had to walk it because I couldn't ride through it.
10:27:29 And he was telling me about what he's seen in 94 years.
10:27:34 You know, we made a lot of progress.
10:27:36 Not us.
10:27:36 Not the seven of us here.
10:27:38 All of us.
10:27:39 And this city has become a better place to live, and the
10:27:46 citizens that we have.
10:27:47 You see no, law is a good law unless it's followed.
10:27:50 And most citizens of this city follow the law.
10:27:54 What do citizens look for?
10:27:55 They look for a very good law enforcement, fire department,
10:27:59 rescue department.
10:28:02 When you are sick and down and out and not feeling well, you
10:28:05 look up and you see firefighters, all of a sudden you start
10:28:08 to feel better.
10:28:10 Parks and recreation, things of the nature where you can go
10:28:14 out and park and walk around and feel safe and come back
10:28:17 home and do whatever you want.
10:28:19 And I look at things a little differently.
10:28:21 I'm looking at population explosion the next 25 years, maybe
10:28:26 450,000 people coming into this area.
10:28:28 Not all in the city but mostly Hillsborough County.
10:28:34 Also come in the city.
10:28:35 And I tell myself, guess what.
10:28:39 Where is the water going to come from?
10:28:41 It ain't there.
10:28:43 It won't be there 20 years from now because the population
10:28:46 and the water supply is geographically different.
10:28:49 So I'm thinking, that alone is $300 million to fix that
10:28:55 You can't continue to dig wells because you are not allowed.
10:28:59 You can only dig and take out 90 million gallons a day.
10:29:05 That's a very good thing.
10:29:05 So I look at all of us, and I said, it's not process.
10:29:10 I think the people are pretty well satisfied, in general.
10:29:13 Yes, I get a call or two every day telling me how stupid I
10:29:19 And that's a fact of life.
10:29:21 But I guess I have been called stupid my whole life.
10:29:26 And if you make an error, it's fine.
10:29:29 Just don't make a mistake.
10:29:32 There's a difference between making an error and making a
10:29:35 I am going to let you figure it out.
10:29:37 So what I'm saying is, the process at the end, no matter
10:29:41 what we do, I guarantee you, it will be basically the same
10:29:48 Only one time did I know in the last 40 years, and I think
10:29:52 that was in 1974, or 75, did the council ever overrule a
10:30:02 One time that I remember.
10:30:04 I may be wrong.
10:30:05 And it was regarding a raise for the firefighters.
10:30:11 And that happened in 1974-75 or roughly 40 years ago.
10:30:17 So you know what?
10:30:19 That mayor's door is only 08 feet away.
10:30:23 I have been there a few times.
10:30:27 But I thought I had to go.
10:30:28 And I spoke to him once about water.
10:30:30 And he was very receptive.
10:30:34 And I can tell you this, no matter what we do or how we do
10:30:37 it, you better start thinking not for today, but 40 years
10:30:40 from now, when all of us may be gone.
10:30:43 I may still be around, but most of us will be gone.
10:30:51 But what I am trying to tell you is, be yourself.
10:30:53 Be good.
10:30:54 Be willing to go to work every day.
10:30:57 Call when you have to call.
10:31:01 The departments you call.
10:31:03 I mean, every valuable thing, the community redevelopment,
10:31:05 the people you have to call when you have a problem.
10:31:08 Every neighborhood knows, there was no neighborhood
10:31:11 association here in 1974 to speak of.
10:31:13 I can't tell you how many there are now -- but it all works,
10:31:21 and intercommunicate with each other and understand how the
10:31:24 system can get the most out of it.
10:31:26 And the more we get out of the system, the cheaper it
10:31:28 becomes, because we don't have to be go find the problem.
10:31:31 The problem is given to us.
10:31:33 So thank you very much.
10:31:34 Any other council members?
10:31:35 Mr. Reddick?
10:31:37 >>FRANK REDDICK: After you speak I was going to put a
10:31:44 So thank you for your words of wisdom, and just hope that
10:31:49 time will allow us to make a change.
10:32:03 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you very much.
10:32:05 This will be an interesting trip in unchartered territory.
10:32:09 And I do think -- I do think that we need to do it quickly.
10:32:13 So I would like to suggest that maybe after the CRA meeting
10:32:16 on February 13th, that is an option for a special
10:32:20 discussion meeting or special called meeting, excuse me,
10:32:24 because we may want to take action.
10:32:26 So a special call meeting immediately following the CRA
10:32:29 discussion on February 13th at 10 a.m.
10:32:35 Yes, Mrs. Capin?
10:32:37 >>YVONNE CAPIN: We have the other.
10:32:38 >>HARRY COHEN: Correct.
10:32:40 I understand that.
10:32:40 I think actually even with that, besides regular CRA
10:32:45 activity, that's our only activity that morning.
10:32:48 We do have a nature meeting that night.
10:32:50 But it only looks to have at this point six items on it.
10:32:53 So I'm saying following the discussion that's already
10:32:57 scheduled, that we convene as a special called meeting.
10:33:01 >>FRANK REDDICK: Let me ask you, is it too late to do it
10:33:05 after the CRA meeting in March when we don't have anything?
10:33:08 >>HARRY COHEN: On March 13th?
10:33:13 I'm perfectly open to that as well.
10:33:16 Is that better, you think?
10:33:18 Okay, then my motion would be to have a special call meeting
10:33:23 on March 13th, immediately following the CRA meeting to
10:33:27 discuss substantive budget priorities for the fiscal year
10:33:32 2015 budget.
10:33:36 Immediately following the CRA meeting.
10:33:37 So it would be at 9:01 a.m.
10:33:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Are you sure it's not 9:02?
10:33:46 >>HARRY COHEN: As long as it's after 9:00.
10:33:48 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I was thinking that before, at 5 p.m.,
10:33:53 before the council session that's scheduled for that date,
10:34:02 there's an evening session, rezoning.
10:34:05 We don't have any cases yet bits on the calendar.
10:34:08 >>HARRY COHEN: No, that would limit us to an hour.
10:34:13 >>LISA MONTELIONE: It would, but it would afford the public
10:34:15 to be here because it's really difficult to get people.
10:34:18 We have a fairly decent showing today because we had some
10:34:21 other important items on the calendar.
10:34:23 But for people to come down here and participate in the
10:34:27 discussion at 9 a.m., it's really, really hard.
10:34:34 >> If we give fair notice.
10:34:36 I mean, it's March.
10:34:42 Very few people come down here.
10:34:44 And I don't think if people want to come, they are going to
10:34:50 But I don't want to limit our discussion when we have got to
10:34:56 So that's why I said March.
10:35:02 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And I would just suggest we keep in mind
10:35:05 as we go through this process and schedule other meetings
10:35:07 that we alternates between morning and evening, just as we
10:35:11 do with the rezoning.
10:35:12 To give everyone the opportunity if they can't make it here
10:35:15 in the morning, then make they can make it in the evening.
10:35:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Before I take a vote on the motion made
10:35:20 by Mr. Cohen, second by Mr. Reddick, anyone in the public
10:35:23 care to speak on that comment?
10:35:25 >> Kimberly overman, the chairman. Citizens advisory
10:35:35 council on the budget and finance.
10:35:37 Thank you very much for having this discussion today.
10:35:41 Just as input to assist you in some of the things that we
10:35:45 have to say, and our process, the conversation today is very
10:35:52 well received.
10:35:54 Our process in the past has been to spend the majority of
10:35:59 our time not only hearing from you one on one, from each of
10:36:02 us that have been appointed by you, but also then to meet
10:36:06 with the staff, and hear from them what they have on their
10:36:12 agenda for this year's budget.
10:36:15 What we have discovered in the process is that staff senior
10:36:21 very good at trying to figure out how to fix what they do
10:36:24 and get done last year and what they need to do this year.
10:36:28 But what we found is by always dealing with whatever
10:36:32 emergency kind of thing they are wrestling with is they
10:36:39 aren't able to, until we talk to them, think before Wan they
10:36:42 need to do now to prepare for five, ten years down the road.
10:36:50 It's a huge paradigm shift.
10:36:52 So when we come to you with recommendations, for example,
10:36:56 over the past year of, you know, the IP innovative person to
10:37:02 help look at some of the things that you have actually put
10:37:04 into place this year, it was mentioned for a couple of
10:37:07 years, when we start seeing it happen.
10:37:10 As your representative, or as the citizens representative,
10:37:14 to you for recommendations on budget finance issues, we are
10:37:18 excited to see those things happen.
10:37:22 When they don't happen right away, we understand that it
10:37:24 takes time to have prioritize.
10:37:28 So what I am going to suggest to you is that while we meet
10:37:31 with the staff to gather their challenges and information to
10:37:35 bring that to you, having this conversation about what's on
10:37:40 your priority list will help us ask the right questions.
10:37:45 So then when we come back with a recommendation, we can hear
10:37:49 from both sides, because I don't hear your constituents'
10:37:54 phone calls.
10:37:55 I hear what's happening in my neighborhood or what I read in
10:37:59 the newspaper, or what somebody has complained about, and
10:38:02 what staff has addressed.
10:38:04 So I think what you are talking about as a process can
10:38:08 really get even better and allow us to better serve not only
10:38:13 our neighborhoods and our citizens, but you as your advisory
10:38:16 Thank you.
10:38:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
10:38:20 Next please.
10:38:20 >> Kent King of 4020 West Obispo, Virginia Park.
10:38:25 I want to commend you for bringing this to council.
10:38:29 Just a couple of observations.
10:38:33 I would maybe recommend establishing a schedule of activity
10:38:36 and coordinating it with the advisory committee.
10:38:40 There's a mechanism in place that can contribute to the
10:38:46 cause that I think makes a lot of sense.
10:38:49 And in regard to the chairman's concerns, I think that, I
10:38:53 would hope that your guiding -- the guidance and the
10:38:58 priorities that you establish are based first on the
10:39:00 responsibility of the city, the government, whether it's
10:39:03 sewer, stormwater, safety, so forth.
10:39:08 I think that deserves to be the top of the priority.
10:39:11 And it's tough when you have -- I think it's best to do
10:39:16 that, and then also consider the challenges you all have
10:39:19 with regard to some of the partnerships you have, some of
10:39:22 the people that spoke here today.
10:39:24 I think that it would be a healthy process to look at those
10:39:29 in the same way.
10:39:34 Thank you very much.
10:39:35 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
10:39:35 Anyone else care to speak?
10:39:37 >> Steven Liverpool.
10:39:43 I'm the most junior member of the citizens advisory
10:39:47 And one of the things joining the committee this year is
10:39:51 going through the process the first time that I think can be
10:39:54 incorporated into what you talked about, in this hybrid form
10:39:59 of setting your priorities, is to actually keep a record of
10:40:03 what the priorities are.
10:40:04 That's one thing that I have heard come up over and over
10:40:07 throughout the search process.
10:40:09 Staff cares very deeply, what they are trying to provide the
10:40:13 They know what's coming.
10:40:14 We just talked about having that perspective, looking
10:40:17 forward to 40 years, whether that be the stormwater drains,
10:40:21 or some of the different things that the staff sees coming.
10:40:24 And being able to put that, like you said, in writing and
10:40:28 being able to follow it, hold everybody accountable to these
10:40:32 things that we think are important, both as the staff, and
10:40:36 then through as Kimberly said, through your constituents for
10:40:40 the city.
10:40:41 So I think it would be very important to make sure that both
10:40:45 of those sides are hearing each other, and then we are going
10:40:48 to hold ourselves accountable.
10:40:50 We serve at your pleasure.
10:40:52 And then the constituents making sure those things are going
10:40:56 to be addressed in the future.
10:40:58 Thank you.
10:41:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
10:41:01 Anyone else?
10:41:02 I believe that takes care of that item.
10:41:05 I haven't taken the vote.
10:41:06 All in favor of the motion by Mr. Cohen, seconded by Mr.
10:41:10 Reddick, please signify by saying aye.
10:41:19 >>YVONNE CAPIN: When I heard them speaking, that the
10:41:21 citizens advisory committee should be very much a part of
10:41:27 this process, and that they are included in all of our
10:41:32 meetings here.
10:41:32 And I think I want to make sure that's what we are doing.
10:41:37 >>HARRY COHEN: Okay.
10:41:39 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'm ready for the vote.
10:41:40 All in favor. Motion?
10:41:43 Motion passed unanimously.
10:41:44 We go to item number 6.
10:41:48 >> Planning services department.
10:41:53 This motion was made early last year, was scheduled a couple
10:41:56 of times because of the scheduling.
10:41:58 Since then, the plans of the west river area have been
10:42:02 It was unveiled yesterday.
10:42:10 >>HARRY COHEN: Ladies, Weaver a speaker at the pod you why.
10:42:15 Thank you.
10:42:15 >> I think it was well received.
10:42:21 And present the summary of that plan, fanned there are any
10:42:23 questions related to city services or departments, we will
10:42:27 be happy to answer those in the question and answer period.
10:42:30 Thank you.
10:42:30 >> He stead out for a second.
10:42:43 >>YVONNE CAPIN: If you look at the date, our first meeting
10:42:45 on the west bank and the West Tampa was January 31 of 2013,
10:42:53 one year ago.
10:42:54 And the plan was to come back in October, because by then,
10:43:02 the Housing Authority thought that they would have their
10:43:05 report ready.
10:43:07 And because of different situations, as you stated, we had
10:43:12 to postpone the meeting.
10:43:14 And here we are today, the day after the unveiling.
10:43:17 So we get to see it personally here today.
10:43:22 What we have planned.
10:43:23 So thank you for everyone's patience on this.
10:43:26 >> Good morning.
10:43:32 How is everybody this morning?
10:43:33 A chilly weather kind of morning.
10:43:36 My blood got thin.
10:43:38 But I love being here.
10:43:47 My name is Jerome Ryan, Housing Authority.
10:43:51 I want to introduce our planning group basically.
10:43:54 As most of you know, we have been putting together -- we put
10:43:57 together basically a master plan for the west area.
10:44:02 This is not the whole entire West Tampa area.
10:44:05 This is just a portion of that area.
10:44:07 And I want to make sure everybody understands it.
10:44:10 And I want to introduce Stan Mulvihill.
10:44:18 Stan is with McCormick Baron Salazar, our code development
10:44:26 in the area, and working on our master plan.
10:44:29 We had a huge public meeting yesterday along with a press
10:44:32 We probably had from 300 to 400 people last night.
10:44:36 Be a very, very good meeting, gave even more input from the
10:44:40 citizens in that area, and stakeholders and others that had
10:44:44 some idea of what they thought ought to be in the area, and
10:44:47 what we ought to be doing.
10:44:48 Stan took some time along with others to go over the overall
10:44:52 And we aren't going to spend all of your time going over the
10:44:56 plan but the highlights.
10:44:57 But I wanted Stan to come up and talk briefly about that
10:45:00 because I think it's important.
10:45:01 We have a real opportunities here to change the entire
10:45:05 And in my opinion that's what we ought to be doing.
10:45:09 Obviously, you know, public housing in that area is a
10:45:12 No question in my mind about that.
10:45:14 It needs to have go.
10:45:15 In order for us to solve the problems, it needs to be
10:45:22 I don't want anybody to run out and say they are going to be
10:45:26 moved because we aren't ready for.
10:45:28 That we had our meetings with our residents.
10:45:30 Many of them started packing their bags.
10:45:32 We don't advise them to have do anything.
10:45:36 I want them to understand it's a work in progress.
10:45:38 But as we go over some of the aspects of the plan, and I
10:45:42 think it's important for to you know what we are doing and
10:45:44 how we are doing it?
10:45:48 >> Councilman Reddick has been involved in most of the
10:45:50 meetings and had an opportunity to sit in and shared his
10:45:53 insight and his opinion on things and we appreciate that,
10:45:55 and we have had others to do the same thing.
10:45:57 But Stan, come up and talk briefly before the plan.
10:46:00 And at the end of this whole process, we'll probably end up
10:46:04 sending you a summary or something regarding the plan, a
10:46:07 document about like that.
10:46:08 And you don't want all that information.
10:46:10 But I think at the end of the day, you are going to see --
10:46:14 because we already realize what we are doing in that area of
10:46:16 the city is going to make a heck of a lot of difference,
10:46:20 economically for the people, and also the awareness of the
10:46:24 overall community and what can happen in a community when
10:46:26 everybody is working together.
10:46:30 >> Stan Mulvihill: Good morning.
10:46:31 Thanks so much.
10:46:32 I appreciate being here, and on behalf of McCormack Baron
10:46:34 Salazar in St. Louis, large multifamily housing developer
10:46:41 specializing in economically integrated communities and
10:46:43 public housing transformations of the type envisioned for
10:46:47 North Boulevard homes.
10:46:49 We were procured by the Tampa Housing Authority somewhat
10:46:53 more than a year ago now under the first step would be to
10:46:56 help them and others start the master plan this area and do
10:47:01 two things.
10:47:01 One, the people plan, and two, the place.
10:47:05 So it's not just about bricks and mortar.
10:47:08 It's also about all the folks that are part of that
10:47:10 experience, both very much in those residences, and North
10:47:14 Boulevard homes, as well as the larger West Tampa community
10:47:20 and the partnerships that could come from that.
10:47:22 There are three basic ones.
10:47:24 One is the Tampa Housing Authority and North Boulevard
10:47:28 Another as Mayor Buckhorn has stated is that the city's
10:47:32 wastewater depth division, which is along Rome Avenue there,
10:47:35 is in place, actually in the collaboration with the city in
10:47:39 terms of a larger master plan, and part 3 of this is really
10:47:43 our opportunity to sit down with schools, district staff, to
10:47:49 look at their allocation of field versus the riverfront and
10:47:52 ton see if those configurations that will work for them
10:47:55 better than they do now, as well as open up the riverfront
10:47:58 to the type of development that was envisioned by the city.
10:48:02 I believe we have a PowerPoint.
10:48:04 Do we have a Power Point?
10:48:06 Otherwise I am going to be --
10:48:09 >>HARRY COHEN: It's on our screens.
10:48:11 >> Thank you very much.
10:48:12 I just want to be say, Jerome, now you tell me out don't
10:48:15 have any money.
10:48:16 [ Laughter ]
10:48:22 All right.
10:48:22 So we are going to look at this.
10:48:24 I am going to scroll through quickly because I know you are
10:48:27 This is an image from InVision Tampa.
10:48:31 And again I won't spend much time on this.
10:48:33 You all are much more be I.
10:48:40 But that umbrella of the InVision and the neighborhood
10:48:44 surrounding the center city and that river, and the attempt
10:48:46 is to make the center -- the river the centerpiece of that
10:48:50 West river is just a small subset really of a much larger
10:48:54 series of plans.
10:48:55 As small as that is.
10:48:57 Just application for building few statistics I am going to
10:48:59 give you.
10:49:00 You see here some of the planning sessions that went on for
10:49:03 many, many sessions over the years, before we arrived at our
10:49:11 To give you an idea quickly of the process, over the last
10:49:14 year, we have had more than 400 people participate in
10:49:18 crafting this plan of what you will see.
10:49:21 There were numerous public hearings and sessions held mostly
10:49:26 at Blake high school but also through a series of workshops.
10:49:29 There are surveys done, the residents of the area.
10:49:34 There are two months really of stakeholder meetings that we
10:49:37 had with primary key people like the West Tampa chamber or
10:49:40 the CDC, or the school district, or the university of Tampa,
10:49:44 or -- I could go on and on.
10:49:46 But the point is, there are so many neighborhood and civic
10:49:49 groups that are part of this issue that that takes time.
10:49:52 And really the time that it takes is making sure everyone is
10:49:56 part of that plan.
10:49:57 Councilman Reddick, I know, has attended many of these
10:50:01 sessions and participated thoroughly in the development of
10:50:03 many of these ideas.
10:50:04 So the first step single-family is to listen and learn which
10:50:07 takes a long time.
10:50:08 You can imagine all the voices.
10:50:10 Because this is an important area.
10:50:11 The other part is that making the choices in starting to
10:50:17 develop the plan, because we can't get everything out of
10:50:19 this plan.
10:50:20 There are choices that have to be made.
10:50:22 This is a disciplined process.
10:50:24 We have to go about this in a way that will result in a
10:50:27 feasible, implementable development plan.
10:50:30 This is not just a vision.
10:50:31 It is not a vision.
10:50:32 We are developers.
10:50:33 And I gather Mayor Buckhorn is a developer.
10:50:40 We are after getting these things moving as fast and quickly
10:50:43 as we can.
10:50:44 And then coming up with a plan, I guess this is the other
10:50:47 important thing I want to emphasize.
10:50:49 The people are part of this plan are ones that need to be
10:50:54 better engaged in the economic vitality that this plan can
10:50:58 So all of this is commitment to the residents hiring
10:51:06 programs that we have participated in, and your authority
10:51:09 has participated in, to make sure that the folks that plan
10:51:11 this with us are also going to benefit from it.
10:51:14 And it's hard, this west river plan you see up here, the
10:51:19 yellow is the North Boulevard homes.
10:51:21 The sort of reddish area on the left side is the city
10:51:24 wastewater, quite large.
10:51:26 And then you see the series of school districts which
10:51:31 include Dunbar elementary, which is a magnet school on the
10:51:34 west side.
10:51:35 You see Just Elementary which is a local school so to speak.
10:51:40 You see the science magnet.
10:51:44 You see Blake high school on the far right, which of course
10:51:47 is the campus that involves both industrial arts as well as
10:51:50 the performing and visual arts.
10:51:52 And this is terrific.
10:51:55 Actually bicycle Blake high school, the kind of mixed income
10:51:59 environment that we seek is actually already there.
10:52:01 And to meet with the principal and see these kids and hold
10:52:06 our meetings there, we came to appreciate how important that
10:52:11 mixture is.
10:52:11 And it's a mixture of incomes, it's a mixture of races and
10:52:15 it's a mixture of zip codes, people coming from all over
10:52:19 Hillsborough County to attend that school, as well as
10:52:24 So our job is to make sure that the kids that are there have
10:52:27 a way to stay there or eventually return, or right to return
10:52:30 if they wish, or be placed correctly, and let the housing
10:52:34 authority speak to that.
10:52:36 But going forward, to be able to accommodate many more into
10:52:39 this area.
10:52:39 Ultimately, that's going to be the most important transition
10:52:43 we have.
10:52:45 North Boulevard homes, we believe, can be -- and you have
10:52:48 done this in other developments I am going to mention some
10:52:52 of the newer choice neighborhoods, that the Housing
10:52:56 Authority is already well engaged with. You can see on the
10:53:00 lower side, we have got that's West Main that kind of runs
10:53:04 across that whole strip there toward the bottom, the FDOT
10:53:08 retention area there as well.
10:53:10 But what is important is to see the new neighborhood that's
10:53:13 been developed that is considerably more dense than the one
10:53:16 that's there, but still remains very residential.
10:53:20 We are going, to give you an idea, a density before 20 units
10:53:25 an acre to one in this plan that's about 50 units an acre
10:53:29 and yet it still feels like a really beautiful residential
10:53:32 community for families, for seniors, and for others.
10:53:36 Here is what we call the block diagram.
10:53:39 This is just a sample block.
10:53:41 But you see a series of what look like nice homes.
10:53:43 But they are actually multifamily dwellings that are
10:53:47 designed to act like a traditional American street.
10:53:50 They are up near the street.
10:53:51 They have front doors, and they relate to a traditional
10:53:56 But also contain secured and other areas to the interior
10:54:00 where parking and other outdoor activities can tab place.
10:54:04 Inside, the interesting features here, this is a market rate
10:54:08 This is one that's built to a market standard, because we
10:54:12 need to attract families with choices.
10:54:16 They can choose to live anywhere but want to come to this
10:54:19 place as well as take care of all the folks who are there
10:54:21 And to do that, we need to integrate these units so that
10:54:25 within this one block, you will have a mixture of maybe 40,
10:54:30 50% affordable units, which include anything from public
10:54:33 housing to workforce to moderate income to market rate
10:54:39 developments, and they are all mixed N.and there's not a
10:54:44 distinguishing feature about this one has this and this one
10:54:47 doesn't, because the whole ideas just reads like a
10:54:50 marketable community.
10:54:51 And to do that effectively, we have to raise the standards
10:54:56 of the households there and help support them with the
10:54:59 services that will enable them to work, get to work, to make
10:55:07 sure their kids are getting ready for school, and that there
10:55:10 are other programs in place to help people succeed.
10:55:12 The other facet is that as people succeed here they don't
10:55:17 have to move out.
10:55:19 Meaning as their incomes go up they can pay more.
10:55:25 They don't have to move out.
10:55:26 The idea that this is built to help folks succeed and not
10:55:29 simply maintain where they are.
10:55:32 To move upward.
10:55:33 That's the idea.
10:55:35 Here is an example.
10:55:37 I am going to do some of these quickly but this is west Main
10:55:40 We are looking from Willow toward Rome which as you know
10:55:44 looked like this.
10:55:45 There's not a lot on it.
10:55:46 We believe that the vision can include something like this,
10:55:50 as fantastic as that looks, it is real, county happen.
10:55:53 There's a senior development on the left side that has maybe
10:55:56 the Tampa family health clinic, on the bottom it's enlarged,
10:56:01 and really made much more marketable so that all sorts of
10:56:04 folks would feel comfortable bringing their family there for
10:56:08 health care, it could include restaurants, cot include other
10:56:12 So the important thing, that this begin to lead back to West
10:56:17 Here are some examples --
10:56:20 >>HARRY COHEN: Let me stop you for one second.
10:56:22 Councilman Reddick has a question.
10:56:24 >>FRANK REDDICK: Let me raise one question.
10:56:26 And maybe that photo that you just showed, let me just raise
10:56:29 one question and it might be a misconception that comes from
10:56:35 West Tampa.
10:56:37 This portion that you are showing here now, this will be
10:56:42 from Willow to Rome?
10:56:49 Will it the entire stretch of Main Street?
10:56:56 Will it from go from Willow to Rome?
10:56:58 >> That's right.
10:56:59 >> Between North Boulevard and Willow, what will be there?
10:57:05 >> Well, I can refer back to the plan, I think, the best way
10:57:08 to handle that.
10:57:12 You can see here west Main.
10:57:15 If you look -- it's kind of hard to say here but in the
10:57:19 middle of the picture is Willow street, between Just
10:57:23 Elementary and Stewart all the way into that area.
10:57:27 If you follow that down on one side of that do it, if you
10:57:33 look to your left, so to speak, you are looking down that
10:57:35 strip there.
10:57:36 Those buildings are designed for senior developments,
10:57:40 meaning higher scale, higher density, but with amenities
10:57:44 that are proposed appropriate for in place as well as retail
10:57:49 on the ground floor as well as services already in the West
10:57:51 Tampa -- excuse me, west river area, along Rome.
10:57:55 Allowing those to be able to be reproduced here.
10:57:58 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
10:58:01 My last question.
10:58:03 From Willow to Howard Avenue, what would that look like?
10:58:09 >> Well, that's outside the actual planning.
10:58:13 But our intent --
10:58:15 >> It's outside the planning so that means those existing
10:58:19 businesses in that particular area would not be affected at
10:58:23 >> We hope positively if anything else but --
10:58:27 >> And that's where the CRA would come in.
10:58:29 >> It's my understanding, yes.
10:58:31 >> I just want to make it clear.
10:58:33 Because there's a lot coffin fusion out there between what's
10:58:36 going to happen from Rome to Howard and Wan is going on
10:58:40 between North Boulevard --
10:58:43 >> I understand.
10:58:43 >> Willow and Rome.
10:58:45 So that's the reason I want to clear this up this morning.
10:58:49 >> Thank you.
10:58:52 I appreciate that.
10:58:53 That's a good distinction to make.
10:58:55 It's easy to get confused.
10:58:56 I think the point of this is to help anchor West Main with
10:58:59 new possibilities so the folks who have businesses to the
10:59:03 west -- that's the area that you are describing, counselor,
10:59:10 that's the area that needs to be impacted positively, and I
10:59:12 think there are other programs but I can't speak to those.
10:59:16 That would be the city's choice. But that would be in
10:59:17 cooperation with the development of this plan.
10:59:19 That's a great distinction.
10:59:23 So moving on then, I talked a little bit about the housing
10:59:28 These aren't exactly what will be there.
10:59:30 What we need to do is develop a vernacular in design that is
10:59:34 appropriate for this area, that isn't something we would put
10:59:37 in Phoenix just because we have the plans.
10:59:39 This needs to be designed for this place and this
10:59:41 opportunity and these folks and their needs.
10:59:45 At the heart of this, I want to mention our amenities that
10:59:48 would be crucial to any neighborhood such as a neighborhood
10:59:52 This is one representation of it.
10:59:54 About two acres. It's actually bigger than maybe it looks.
10:59:57 But it allows us to have a management leasing area, certain
11:00:00 other things that are part of the heart of that system, plus
11:00:02 a lawn, splash park, other things that really make this your
11:00:09 If you look up, you see now the plan has expanded to the
11:00:14 city-owned piece, in collaboration with the city, which is a
11:00:18 separate process at the moment, and this opens up
11:00:21 opportunities not only to continue the neighborhood and
11:00:24 disburse the modern and -- moderate and low income, so we
11:00:29 get a mixture, don't just concentrate on one or two blocks.
11:00:33 That's not going to work very well.
11:00:34 What we are able to do in this plan is expand the number of
11:00:37 units in that same mixture, but also preserve what you see
11:00:41 on the northern end, really kind of close to Rick's, if you
11:00:45 know where Rick's on the river is up there on the river, to
11:00:48 the left of that, is a large area that we think is maybe a
11:00:54 market rate of 100% market rate development, maybe higher
11:00:58 mid rise and so on.
11:00:59 That's up to the city to determine in a separate process.
11:01:02 But it does offer other developments.
11:01:03 >>HARRY COHEN: Council ma'am Montelione.
11:01:06 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
11:01:08 And in this development on the city-owned, overall, let me
11:01:14 just preface it with this, that a lot of talk has been how
11:01:20 many of the properties, large part of this area, is not
11:01:23 producing any tax revenue, because it is a in public hands.
11:01:29 Whether it's in the city's public hands or school board's
11:01:32 public hands or the Housing Authority.
11:01:35 So some discussion has been made about how we are maybe
11:01:40 returning some of this property to a tax-producing, viable
11:01:46 revenue stream.
11:01:48 Which will be self-supporting to the area.
11:01:51 I just wants to make that clear as well.
11:01:54 I have a couple of questions.
11:01:57 And one we'll probably discuss a little later on when we
11:02:00 discuss the transparency of city property being sold or
11:02:04 transferred out of city control, but the other concern that
11:02:10 I have and want to make sure that things to address as we
11:02:14 are developing the RPs or developing applications for
11:02:21 funding sources, the neighborhood choice grants and such, is
11:02:25 that we may need some environmental clean-up of the areas
11:02:30 that are in question, especially in the areas surrounding
11:02:36 the city's facilities for solid waste, wastewater, I'm
11:02:41 I just want to make sure that that is at the top of the list
11:02:47 of looking at priorities, because other cities, not
11:02:53 necessarily ours, but other cities have gotten in trouble
11:02:59 for not properly addressing the remediation of the land
11:03:05 prior to turning it into residential property.
11:03:07 I just want to make sure that's something that we pay
11:03:10 particular attention to.
11:03:11 Thank you.
11:03:11 >>HARRY COHEN: Go ahead.
11:03:14 >> Thank you.
11:03:17 Well, we'll continue then.
11:03:18 I'm sorry if you don't mind going back to the Power Point
11:03:21 whereby we left off there, which was the city plan.
11:03:25 So with that -- and we have, by the way, in this master
11:03:29 plan, take a look at phase 1, environmental assessment, it's
11:03:36 lightweight but at gives lives gives you some indication.
11:03:39 Potential of what can happen, and your point is well taken,
11:03:42 and something that we are very careful about in any
11:03:48 Belt and suspenders when it comes to have that.
11:03:50 So moving along, I wanted to give just an overview of what
11:03:55 these streets start to look like.
11:03:57 The scale there is really actually kind of nice.
11:04:00 We are trying to preserve that, while also increasing the
11:04:03 So this is the vision of that very same street.
11:04:06 And I know again we talked about this.
11:04:08 People look at this and they say that will never happen.
11:04:11 But it will.
11:04:11 And it will because we'll do it in phases.
11:04:15 We'll work with others.
11:04:16 It won't just be us.
11:04:17 Hopefully it will be us in some of us but it won't be just
11:04:21 There will be many others.
11:04:22 It's up to the city and housings authority to figure that
11:04:24 out with you.
11:04:25 But this is the kind of environments that you can anticipate
11:04:28 where you have a really beautiful, marketable community that
11:04:33 takes full advantage of the opportunity you have here, but
11:04:36 doesn't displace folks in the process.
11:04:39 That's the challenge.
11:04:40 Here is another opportunity.
11:04:41 And this is one that personally gets me very excited, is the
11:04:45 idea of river to bay.
11:04:49 That term refers to bringing that asset much more into the
11:04:54 everyday experience for all of us.
11:04:56 It's one of the most exciting things for us when we took a
11:05:00 look at this opportunity for the river but also the fact
11:05:02 that it was so cut off and isolated in so many ways.
11:05:05 One of them is right here at Willow street right into the
11:05:07 Housing Authority property, and then beyond, when you get to
11:05:12 just and Stewart school, that's all closed off, too, and
11:05:15 even they are closed off from the riverfront in their own
11:05:18 way, so that you literally have to trespass to get to the
11:05:21 riverfront in this area.
11:05:23 Here is an example.
11:05:24 And this is really the master plan as we have it today.
11:05:27 You see the fields have been moved.
11:05:30 And this plan suggested the fields are moved over to the
11:05:33 east side of the -- and along that area so we can create a
11:05:38 public space there along the river's edge, that's kind of
11:05:41 the elliptical green space that's quite large along this
11:05:44 whole pattern of Riverwalk and so on, along with new ball
11:05:48 fields, and a community center and many other things that
11:05:51 work of more favorably, we think, with the school
11:05:55 The other thing I will point out is that Willow street is
11:05:58 now open to the riverfront, and that's a very exciting
11:06:01 thing, because as now it goes under the interstate, along
11:06:04 with Rome and some of these others.
11:06:06 There's just a few that pass through there.
11:06:08 This gives us a new corridor all the way to the bay.
11:06:11 And it also opens up a great commercial and residential and
11:06:15 of office maybe opportunity right here on the riverfront
11:06:18 which gets us much more in tune with the possibilities.
11:06:23 You see also there's a cafeteria now, that blue space that's
11:06:27 right on the edge of Stewart.
11:06:29 That allows them to have their own cafeteria space there,
11:06:32 but also serve the multi-function facility, and then Just
11:06:34 Elementary can keep their cafeteria and therefore are able
11:06:39 to open up Willow.
11:06:40 That's the technical challenge.
11:06:41 And we were able to solve it through this way.
11:06:45 Again, you have seen some of these images from InVision
11:06:48 before about the riverfront, and what it can become.
11:06:50 I want to show you one from Blake high school, on the
11:06:53 backside of Stewart really, this is the high school and
11:06:56 middle school track field.
11:06:58 And you can see there's the river.
11:06:59 There's the recommendation of the track on the west edge.
11:07:01 And look at this.
11:07:03 This is really what it ought to be.
11:07:05 And this is to me stunning because of the difference in
11:07:09 character, just almost overnight takes this into a whole
11:07:13 other location.
11:07:14 And then of course speaking at night, you can also do the
11:07:17 idea to be a safe neighborhood where you could do things.
11:07:21 So that's our plan.
11:07:24 And we have various enhancements.
11:07:32 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Hold it right there.
11:07:33 Something real quick?
11:07:34 >>HARRY COHEN: Okay, go ahead.
11:07:36 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I want everyone to know that I attended
11:07:38 several meetings.
11:07:39 Mostly listening and learning.
11:07:42 And that meeting is in July.
11:07:45 And it was right before my husband became very ill, and
11:07:49 after that I didn't attend.
11:07:50 But that person on the very right hand corner top, that's
11:07:55 In the red.
11:07:56 You see me?
11:07:58 I'm there.
11:07:59 I just want everyone to know.
11:08:01 I may not everybody acknowledged.
11:08:03 I just came in, and I attended several meetings.
11:08:09 And Councilman Reddick is up against -- but, you know, I
11:08:14 just want everyone -- when you put that up, I said, now I
11:08:17 have to point that out.
11:08:18 >>HARRY COHEN: And Mrs. Capin asked to be recognized at the
11:08:29 end of the meeting: And I will come back to you if you want
11:08:32 to follow up.
11:08:33 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I want to thank Councilwoman Capin because I
11:08:39 didn't realize I was in that picture until -- point out
11:08:45 white hair versus a red outfit. Anyway, I have a couple of
11:08:50 And really there's two things that I'm trying about,
11:08:53 primarily process, and then the other thing -- and you made
11:08:56 a comment, and I want to kind of follow up on that first and
11:09:00 then I'll get to process.
11:09:02 You talked about these buildings being market rate.
11:09:06 But at the same time we are going to have some ability and
11:09:10 places for folks that are now residents to be able to go in
11:09:15 Now, the question I have is this.
11:09:17 If I'm someone that, let's say, a section 8 housing might be
11:09:22 part of it, is that correct?
11:09:24 So let's say on section 8 housing, I want to move in there,
11:09:28 as a section 8 housing thing and you want to disburse it.
11:09:32 You don't want to have sort of a separate place that only
11:09:35 section 8 housing is at.
11:09:37 You mentioned our city property, though, that is primarily
11:09:40 going to be market rate.
11:09:41 Is it going to be other section 8 housing up there?
11:09:44 Or how are you doing that process?
11:09:46 Because there's, in my mind, there's a confusion between
11:09:50 market rate, and then, you know, also providing the other
11:09:54 mixed uses that we want.
11:09:56 So how does that actually work?
11:10:00 >> I just want to speak briefly to this because I think you
11:10:03 have done it in other developments. So the ones you are
11:10:05 probably familiar with, Encore has a mixture similar to what
11:10:08 we are talking about.
11:10:09 So there's things that ought to be familiar in terms of that
11:10:13 But I can't speak to the city property per se.
11:10:16 That's a collaborative process.
11:10:18 Obviously that has a whole series of decisions made by
11:10:23 others but the idea is to make it one neighborhood overall,
11:10:26 and to the extent that we need to mix these units up, I will
11:10:29 just give you an example.
11:10:31 We have over 800 public housing units here.
11:10:34 Choice neighborhoods and many federal programs require one
11:10:37 for one replacement.
11:10:40 It may not all come back as public housing but they have to
11:10:43 come back as affordable units.
11:10:44 >> Meaning rights now we have about 1600?
11:10:47 >> No.
11:10:47 You have 800 there now.
11:10:49 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I got you.
11:10:52 >> But 800 will be, quote, affordable and the others will
11:10:56 be, quote, market rate depending on what that is and that
11:10:58 market will develop over a number of years based on the
11:11:01 success of the phasing.
11:11:03 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Unlike the city of New York City, that
11:11:06 actually has rent controls, things like that, to allow
11:11:11 people to stay in their homes, you are talking about you
11:11:14 might have, let's say, a development north of Stewart middle
11:11:20 school that says we are going to make 25% eligible for
11:11:23 section 8 housing or something like that.
11:11:25 Is that correct?
11:11:26 Is that kind of the process?
11:11:28 >> The mixtures will vary according to building.
11:11:31 >> I don't mean the percentage itself.
11:11:33 Just that's kind of the idea behind it.
11:11:35 >> That's right.
11:11:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: So anyone can apply for section 8 housing as
11:11:38 long as there's an available unit, and then that person can
11:11:41 move in finance they meet the criteria for that particular
11:11:45 The second question I have -- and you kind of touched on it
11:11:49 a little bit which is the city's role.
11:11:52 And if Tampa mayor he's comment in the newspaper is correct,
11:11:55 80% of this particular study area is publicly owned
11:12:00 property, of that 80%, how much of that is our city-owned
11:12:05 Is it about 30?
11:12:09 >> Well, the Housing Authority owned about 44 acres. 1207,
11:12:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ: So you are going to make me do the math.
11:12:17 [ Laughter ]
11:12:19 >> Something along there.
11:12:21 >> So your percentage is about 35, 40%?
11:12:26 >> Jerome Ryan: I believe.
11:12:28 >> Ours is probably a little less than that, 25 --
11:12:32 >> 25 to 30%.
11:12:36 And the school board.
11:12:37 >> And the school board has a much larger part of that.
11:12:40 And that leads metropolitan to have my other question.
11:12:41 How is the school board -- because it looks like we are
11:12:45 obviously dealing with them in terms of Willow which goes
11:12:51 through what the current campus is.
11:12:54 What role are they going to have other than us changing
11:12:59 where the fields are currently?
11:13:02 And I know that we have a little league field, too, that we
11:13:05 have to worry about and move.
11:13:07 And that's a very well-known little league.
11:13:11 So you better make sure you give them a good field.
11:13:15 And then you have got those field.
11:13:18 You have the track.
11:13:20 What role does the school board then have other than that,
11:13:24 which is we'll move our fields, you give us another piece
11:13:27 S.that all their role is going to be in this?
11:13:30 >> Well, no, it's the school board per se: I think that's
11:13:35 the way to frame this.
11:13:41 We did present many of them I believe late last summer.
11:13:46 But I think one of the things we are after is education
11:13:48 corridor, because that's the marketable -- think about it,
11:13:52 families with choices as well as those who are there who
11:13:54 really need to have a great educational system.
11:13:58 And that's what really brings families in. If we do that
11:14:01 right we can bring a lot of other folks, the singles, the
11:14:05 seniors, but if we miss that education component, we will be
11:14:08 behind the 8 ball forever, so we have met with the
11:14:13 principals of virtually all those schools.
11:14:15 We think that it's important, for example, Dunbar, the stem
11:14:20 program, it feeds into Stewart by choice.
11:14:24 Also Blake, from all over. Just is more local.
11:14:28 There are a lot of things we are trying to do to establish
11:14:31 the cooperative programming for that, that will also work
11:14:34 and identify frankly a branding for that neighborhood.
11:14:37 That's a terrific head start for us.
11:14:38 And what we need to do is figure out how to integrate.
11:14:41 I would say the answer to this is there's a property aspect
11:14:44 to this, a facility aspect, and we spent time with deputy
11:14:49 superintendent and others on her staff to talk that through.
11:14:52 There's no decisions.
11:14:53 But more importantly it's the programming part of that that
11:14:55 is really the great potential here.
11:14:57 And that one could begin right away, and we don't have to
11:15:00 >>MIKE SUAREZ: And I apologize, chair.
11:15:04 One more question.
11:15:05 One. Things when you are talking about market rate, and we
11:15:07 are looking at it mixed use, you know, you are talking about
11:15:12 a very careful balancing act between making it affordable,
11:15:17 making it successful, and making it available.
11:15:21 I mean, there's a lot of aspects of this that are -- we are
11:15:27 not used to doing these type of projects on this scale.
11:15:30 We have done some on a smaller scale but not something like
11:15:33 Because you are talking about a pretty large area of
11:15:37 Typically, the City of Tampa, and whether it's a developer,
11:15:42 or the city itself, you know, when we see that property,
11:15:45 right here, Rick's on the river that's owned by the city and
11:15:49 is not being utilized to its highest potential, we
11:15:53 understand that's an issue and a problem.
11:15:55 But at the same time, you know, it's the best use of what we
11:16:01 are planning on now, and I think it is, but how do you
11:16:05 coordinate those folks who are in housing units now to make
11:16:08 the leap both in terms of -- and I think you know this more
11:16:13 than anyone else -- the leap is not just a place, it's the
11:16:18 leap of this is a transformative type of project, which
11:16:24 means if I'm someone that is a current resident, and North
11:16:28 Boulevard homes, that I know that I can live here based on
11:16:31 my income and other things, or that, you know, I don't want
11:16:35 to be a person that I'm in fear that I am never going to be
11:16:38 able to live in a place that is much nicer with a much
11:16:43 better neighborhood than I am currently living in now.
11:16:46 And that's a real tough thing to try to do.
11:16:49 And I want to know, how do you actually do that on a process
11:16:53 >> First of all, we have already relocated some 4,000
11:16:56 families in the city already.
11:16:57 >> I know that.
11:16:58 >> We notch how to do this.
11:16:59 And one of the things I think is important is that ever
11:17:04 residents on North Boulevard and all of our other residents
11:17:07 have a first right of refusal.
11:17:08 They have a right to come back.
11:17:10 Has nothing to do with their income.
11:17:12 Whatever their income was at that time.
11:17:13 Mixed income simply means that you are going to have a
11:17:16 number affordable units, a number of section 8 units, have
11:17:19 some public housing.
11:17:21 It's the market rate.
11:17:22 And all units are going to look the same.
11:17:24 If you live in apartment A and your rent may be $700 a
11:17:28 month, and apartment B may be 30% of whatever your income is
11:17:32 at that time.
11:17:32 So nobody really knows unless you are out there telling
11:17:34 people back and forth what I'm buying and what you are
11:17:38 But I think that we realize that it's a very delicate
11:17:42 You realize there are some dynamics we have to work with.
11:17:45 We just felt it was successful in this community doing just
11:17:48 We have been doing that for the last 15 years, since 1997,
11:17:53 to be quite honest where you.
11:17:55 And we know how to work through those dynamics. We know
11:17:58 what we need in terms of supportive services. We know what
11:18:00 residents are looking for.
11:18:02 We are not only transforming property.
11:18:04 We are transforming the lives of people that live there and
11:18:08 giving them a second chance, another opportunity to do the
11:18:11 things that they need to do. That's what's really important
11:18:13 about this whole entire process.
11:18:16 And I can assure that you nobody is going to be left behind.
11:18:19 We think it's important that residents have the opportunity
11:18:22 to move forward, and residents in other locations that we
11:18:26 have, and other apartments that we transform.
11:18:30 But I think overall, we will do the job that needs to be
11:18:35 Think there's a balancing act.
11:18:36 No question about that.
11:18:37 But we have been fortunate enough over the last 12, 15
11:18:41 years, that we have had people in place that understand this
11:18:44 process, and been doing it for a long time.
11:18:46 So I understand what you are saying.
11:18:48 And I realize that it's important that we treat people
11:18:51 right, and that's why we have a human capital plan.
11:18:54 It's not just a master plan for that area but there is a
11:18:58 human capital plan.
11:18:59 We have to look at programs to make sure that residents are
11:19:03 getting what they need.
11:19:04 But we have assured the residents.
11:19:06 They have the right of first refusal.
11:19:07 We'll send them a letter letting them know that if you move,
11:19:11 and three years or five year, you have the right to come
11:19:15 We do that automatically.
11:19:16 And the federal rules require to us do that.
11:19:18 >> Thank you.
11:19:19 And if I can get some information you from about other
11:19:23 successful projects like this that you have done across the
11:19:26 country, I would appreciate it.
11:19:27 You don't have to tell me.
11:19:28 Just get that information to me later on.
11:19:30 >>HARRY COHEN: Councilwoman Capin.
11:19:34 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.
11:19:35 First of all, I want to commend Councilman Reddick for
11:19:39 working with commissioner Miller on getting that through.
11:19:46 And we all know the CRA, when you are talking about the
11:19:49 other businesses, west of Rome, there are facade grants that
11:19:56 we approve here all the time at CRA which makes a huge
11:19:59 difference to those businesses.
11:20:02 That is what I wanted to say there.
11:20:04 I also want to say that, you know, we are talking about when
11:20:07 you mentioned there's not the money, that we have to apply
11:20:11 for the facade grant.
11:20:12 I have to say that I met with the mayor four to five weeks
11:20:15 after we were elected in 2011, and I mentioned West Tampa to
11:20:21 him, and the reason, because I mention to the all the
11:20:24 I mentioned it to Mayor Iorio.
11:20:26 As I stated before, my great grandfather, who is the father
11:20:31 of the grandmother that was born on main street in 1908, had
11:20:35 his residence on Main Street.
11:20:37 He was a founder of a bank that was on 14th street, on
11:20:41 the downtown side of the river, and he walked to the bank.
11:20:47 So my point was, he walked to the bank.
11:20:51 That's how close West Tampa is to downtown.
11:20:56 And I mentioned it over and over again.
11:21:02 What are we doing and what can we do?
11:21:04 How can we do this?
11:21:05 And I am glad that it resonated with Mayor Buckhorn, and he
11:21:11 moved on it.
11:21:12 And it makes me -- I see that potential.
11:21:17 One of the things when we are talking about planning, when
11:21:20 you bring up section 8, just real quickly, section 8 is just
11:21:26 almost market value.
11:21:29 It can be?
11:21:34 So when we talk about section 8, the perception is that it's
11:21:36 And I have mentioned it before, the value, the beauty
11:21:40 of section 8 is that it is market value to those landlords
11:21:47 and also to the value to the person who is of a lower
11:21:50 income, but living -- can live in a home that is adequate
11:22:01 for their family.
11:22:01 >> Just to get away from all the alphabet soup, people have
11:22:08 an opportunity to relocate themselves in affordable housing.
11:22:11 Section 8, or public housing, or tax credit --
11:22:15 >> Absolutely.
11:22:16 Labels, absolutely.
11:22:18 And we are looking at ten years.
11:22:21 I think you said about a decade.
11:22:23 But I have to say that -- and when we talked about the
11:22:26 budget and planning ahead, and New York City, when they were
11:22:30 planning their subway system, they had a population of
11:22:34 100,000 people.
11:22:36 They planned the subway system for a million.
11:22:38 Of course, they have much more.
11:22:40 But that's the kind of thinking, the kind of vision that
11:22:46 happened at our port a hundred years ago when my great
11:22:50 grandparents starting their business, the leaders of this
11:22:54 community decided to dredge and bring the Ybor channel, and
11:22:58 it is still paying for it today.
11:23:11 And it will affect the entire west bank, all the way which
11:23:14 we consider West Tampa all the way to Dale Mabry.
11:23:16 So that being said, I think that the leadership has taken a
11:23:23 very comprehensive and really aggressive look at this area
11:23:29 to move us forward.
11:23:30 And I look forward to the day we have the $30 million grant
11:23:41 for this.
11:23:42 >> Let me just site to you at the end of the day -- and we
11:23:45 brought up that we will get this done.
11:23:54 Everything in this community, obstacles or issues, we got
11:23:57 around obstacles, a round those issues, so we got it done.
11:24:01 >> I heard model cities being mentioned.
11:24:04 >> Model cities, that's older.
11:24:07 Predating me.
11:24:07 >> I know.
11:24:09 My husband graduated from college when we first got married.
11:24:12 He worked for model cities for the City of Tampa and wrote
11:24:15 grants for model cities.
11:24:16 So I'm familiar with that.
11:24:26 Thank you for being here.
11:24:27 And thank you for bringing all this information to us.
11:24:29 >> We will keep you abreast of what we are doing and how we
11:24:32 are doing.
11:24:33 We are fortunate to have your leadership and the mayor's
11:24:36 leadership on this.
11:24:37 Because I think it takes partnerships and we have to work
11:24:44 We have been fortunate not only to have partners in the
11:24:46 community, but not only have partners in the City Council,
11:24:49 but also have the mayor to support the projects.
11:24:53 We will get this done.
11:24:54 We'll get it done together.
11:24:55 >>HARRY COHEN: Councilwoman Montelione.
11:24:58 >>LISA MONTELIONE: We really only have one other question
11:25:04 that hasn't been covered by my colleagues, and it had to do
11:25:07 with the development of some of the market rate properties
11:25:12 and bringing private development into to do this
11:25:15 public-private partnership which I am all for, by the way,
11:25:18 because everything gets done, I think, in a better, more
11:25:21 efficient way with our dollars, and your dollars, when we do
11:25:32 are engage public-private partnerships.
11:25:34 But in the mast, many years ago, it was low income housing
11:25:38 tax credits.
11:25:39 One of the things I was deeply disappointed in was some of
11:25:41 the deals that have been we had structured was the small
11:25:52 number affordable units in the entire project.
11:25:54 And some of the projects were fairly small.
11:25:59 They were in South Tampa a couple of them, 30 or 40 units,
11:26:03 apartment buildings, and only 6, 7, 8 units of 30 or 40 were
11:26:16 And we called it work housing.
11:26:20 I don't know how it's changed.
11:26:21 I am going back probably 15, 17 years ago that I worked on
11:26:24 those deals.
11:26:27 So what would be average maybe ratio?
11:26:31 I know it's hard to say deal by deal.
11:26:34 But are we looking at a better ratio than I had in the past?
11:26:39 >> A better ratio now than we did in 10 or 15 years ago.
11:26:47 But it depends on the deal and depends on who is involved in
11:26:50 the deal.
11:26:51 I would say, yes, it is better.
11:26:53 However, it depends on the deal itself.
11:26:54 >> And we are mixed income housing developers so we are
11:27:02 devoted to the mixtures that you are describing, simply not
11:27:05 that meek, I guess.
11:27:08 We believe that it's important to have that diversity of
11:27:11 incomes, and as long as there's support for the lower income
11:27:15 households that that will work, and we have got 35, almost
11:27:18 40 year history of that.
11:27:20 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That's heartening to hear because when
11:27:25 we hear those deals and only had six or seven out of 30 that
11:27:29 are were affordable and yet credits were being issued on the
11:27:33 property, it was --
11:27:36 >> And that is the complaint.
11:27:39 What we typically see nab deal which will involve public
11:27:43 housing transformation. Choice neighborhoods that we have
11:27:46 done, we are looking at roughly a third public housing, or
11:27:50 We don't like to go a whole lot higher, but we have to
11:27:53 occasionally, maybe a third affordable or other marketable
11:27:57 area, unrestricted is market rate.
11:28:01 But the units themselves can be scattered throughout.
11:28:03 It's really they can move according to the household.
11:28:06 The other thing I will point out is that we typically are
11:28:09 able to come out of the ground and I think tough same kind
11:28:14 of track record.
11:28:15 So it's a good match in that way.
11:28:17 And we typically in our units, we have 22, 23,000 across the
11:28:23 done country.
11:28:24 Queer running around 90% on average full.
11:28:30 >> Could you give us your name again for the record?
11:28:32 The clerk asked me.
11:28:33 >> Yes.
11:28:34 Mulvihill, I'm with McCormick Salazar in, St. Louis, and
11:28:43 we were procured by the city and the Tampa Housing Authority
11:28:45 on this.
11:28:46 >> Thank you very much.
11:28:47 >> Thank you very much.
11:28:51 We appreciate it.
11:28:52 Let me say.
11:28:52 This it is 11:30 and I know there are many council members
11:28:55 that have noon engagements.
11:28:58 We have two items left to cover.
11:28:59 If we do not get through them, we are going to adjourn and
11:29:02 have to come back after lunch.
11:29:04 So it is up to the pleasure of council how we proceed.
11:29:07 We are going to go to public comment now on the item that we
11:29:09 just heard.
11:29:10 Item number 6.
11:29:13 Is there anyone that wishes to address council regarding
11:29:17 this discussion?
11:29:17 >> Good morning.
11:29:30 1000 North Albany.
11:29:31 I will do this real quick.
11:29:35 We did have a meeting last night at Blake.
11:29:39 Tremendous turnout.
11:29:40 And it was more or less the general agreement that those in
11:29:47 attendance stated they wanted a piece of the pie.
11:29:50 And also they wanted to be a part of the decision-making
11:29:59 And ready to move forward with everything.
11:30:03 Thank you.
11:30:03 >> Joe Robinson.
11:30:10 I'm going to clarify something.
11:30:12 There's some confusion going on in the community.
11:30:14 Let me clarify it for you.
11:30:16 This is west river.
11:30:19 Can you get that over there, please, whoever is working
11:30:24 This is west river, okay?
11:30:27 This is the study area.
11:30:29 There's a misnomer.
11:30:33 InVision is more than.
11:30:33 That this is just a portion of West Tampa.
11:30:35 West river is probably 25% of what needs to be done in West
11:30:42 This map from the Planning Commission -- I don't know how
11:30:49 this goes -- but anyway, if you noticed, we have several
11:30:53 study areas, okay?
11:30:54 So west river basically is the Housing Authority, the school
11:30:59 board and some of the city.
11:31:01 And that has nothing to do with the area you drove in, Ms.
11:31:07 We aren't looking at that yet.
11:31:12 Boulevard to Rome.
11:31:14 That's a done deal, looking good.
11:31:17 Nothing is being done from Rome all the way to Armenia.
11:31:20 Nothing is being done.
11:31:23 Where is that vision?
11:31:27 That's what the problem is.
11:31:28 So west river is the West Tampa.
11:31:31 That is one small portion.
11:31:35 And if you don't get all of it done at the same time it will
11:31:39 be right back where we are.
11:31:41 You are going to have from the west end of Main.
11:31:50 There's no business being dealt with here.
11:31:53 There's only one business here.
11:31:56 Rick's on the river right now.
11:31:58 We have businesses not even looked at.
11:32:01 There's no study.
11:32:02 And I am going to show you that.
11:32:04 We have the West Tampa study area.
11:32:06 And we have done this awhile back with the Planning
11:32:09 And in that, the enterprise zone, it comes through the
11:32:15 historic district, and it comes to West Tampa, Rome, the
11:32:21 West Tampa overlay district, so who is going to plan for the
11:32:29 That's Housing Authority property.
11:32:34 Look at Incore.
11:32:41 Keep this core moving.
11:32:43 There's nothing being done on the west part.
11:32:46 Where is that part of InVision?
11:32:48 Mr. Reddick, we need to -- what's happening west of Rome?
11:32:56 What's happening north of the interstate?
11:33:01 Over there where the Italians and the Jews and the Spanish,
11:33:06 that's the problem here.
11:33:08 Making people think that this is the West Tampa plan.
11:33:11 This is just a small piece, people.
11:33:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: (off microphone)
11:33:28 Any other comments?
11:33:30 We go to item number 7.
11:33:55 I know some of us have an obligation.
11:33:57 >>HARRY COHEN: Here is where we left it before you came
11:34:01 N.we recognize we have two more workshops left to do. Many
11:34:04 of us have luncheon engagements today.
11:34:06 I just mentioned to everyone if we don't get through them we
11:34:08 are going to have to come back after lunch.
11:34:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: What time would you like to continue?
11:34:16 >> I have about five minutes.
11:34:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'm sure that Mr. Bob McDonaugh
11:34:20 understands that.
11:34:21 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Yes, sir.
11:34:23 Administrator of economic opportunity.
11:34:24 I was asked to talk about transparency in the real estate
11:34:29 And I want statistics out first so people have an idea of
11:34:36 exactly how many transaction it is city does and how large.
11:34:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Can you blow that up? Not literally.
11:34:44 In size.
11:34:45 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Is that better?
11:34:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Yes, sir.
11:34:49 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Again they are showing in 2012, 130
11:34:54 350 of those were acquisitions, dispositions, and 2013, 29
11:35:01 But what's interesting is the dollar amounts of these
11:35:06 In 2012, 36 of those acquisitions were under 5,000.
11:35:11 12 of them were under -- dispositions were under 5,000.
11:35:15 There were two over 20,000.
11:35:17 And one disposition over 20,000.
11:35:20 In 2013, you can see the numbers are very much the same.
11:35:25 The real estate department does lots and lots of small
11:35:29 A lot of them are economic.
11:35:33 A lot of them are small pieces of land that they buy for
11:35:35 other departments.
11:35:43 You can see there that they do work for all of the different
11:35:47 departments, so are if they need an easement or they need a
11:35:51 license, which is done sometimes for parking in
11:35:55 right-of-way, things like that, they work with those
11:35:59 One of the council members several months ago said that, you
11:36:02 know, we could do a better job with our Web site.
11:36:08 So people are able to look at it.
11:36:14 We listened.
11:36:16 This is a recent RFP done on property that's owned by the
11:36:19 City of Tampa in Ybor City.
11:36:22 And here is the Web site.
11:36:24 It kind of jumps right out at you.
11:36:26 Again the concern was before that perhaps it was not visible
11:36:30 The real estate division does the same thing on their Web
11:36:38 This is a little off because it does not have the city's
11:36:41 header on it.
11:36:44 So it looks a little plain.
11:36:46 But this is the main page from the real estate division.
11:36:50 We want ton see what's for sale, what's the least, what
11:36:54 RFPs are out there.
11:36:55 You click on one of those buttons.
11:37:01 There's the example of the properties for lease.
11:37:03 You want to see what kind of RFPs the real estate
11:37:06 department has.
11:37:10 They are right there front and center.
11:37:13 Let me back that up.
11:37:14 Excuse me.
11:37:18 Again, just a general rule so you understand that the city
11:37:22 is not required to do a property transaction under $100,000,
11:37:29 although most often we do.
11:37:30 Between 500 and a million we require at least one appraisal.
11:37:35 And over a million we require two.
11:37:37 We keep a staff, or outsource appraisal work.
11:37:41 We generally have somewhere between 12 and 15 appraisals
11:37:44 that -- appraisers, excuse me, that we have qualified.
11:37:48 They have an annual budget of $7500.
11:37:51 And so what that does is it prevents a single appraiser for
11:37:54 getting a lion's share of the work.
11:37:56 It rotates through folks that already have been qualified.
11:37:59 Right now at the current time we have a baning of 17
11:38:02 appraisers that have been qualified.
11:38:04 And again, $7500 a year.
11:38:08 So it rotates through there and everybody gets some of that
11:38:12 That way one person is not doing all of the values.
11:38:15 But there were some questions again.
11:38:18 A council person felt that we needed to do a better job with
11:38:21 be the Web site.
11:38:22 We have done that.
11:38:22 We need too do a better job of putting things out on the Web
11:38:25 site, the real estate thing.
11:38:27 We have done that.
11:38:28 And so the goal is to make sure that it's easy for people
11:38:33 that want ton see exactly what the city is doing, check into
11:38:36 our Web site, pull up the document, and investigate it for
11:38:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
11:38:44 Any comments at this time?
11:38:45 Anyone in the audience care to speak?
11:38:50 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you for that update.
11:38:52 We all received this and I did request it -- was the
11:38:56 executive order 90-4 on how we did land disposition policy
11:39:07 for the City of Tampa.
11:39:08 And it was revised from the 88.3, or 88-3, and the two
11:39:16 changes were difficulty of marketability, and the other one
11:39:21 was that it had to -- number two, the change was from 88 to
11:39:29 90, it had to consist with the Tampa comprehensive plan.
11:39:35 Those are the two changes in 1990.
11:39:39 Now, this is all well, and it states here that -- and this
11:39:46 is one of things that that we brought up over and over
11:39:48 again, is when property has been -- and it's in the charter
11:39:53 where the mayor can negotiate the contract for the city.
11:39:56 However, the contracts that we have to approve may get to us
11:40:06 a week before.
11:40:07 What I would suggest that we -- to make it even clearer for
11:40:13 us is that our legal department write into code, or bring it
11:40:26 back for approval, but put into code that the City Council
11:40:30 be notified simultaneously when an RFP or RFQ, the
11:40:39 administration instigates an RFP or RFQ, before it gets
11:40:44 here, when it's thought of.
11:40:47 I think that the City Council needs to know where we are
11:40:54 And I would liking to see that in code where we are notified
11:40:56 of the RFP or RFQ.
11:41:00 >>JULIA MANDELL: City attorney.
11:41:03 We have to be very cognizant of the fact that your code must
11:41:05 be consistent with the charter, which very clearly provides
11:41:09 that not only the disposition of property, but any RFP
11:41:13 process, how that process is to go forward, and I would be
11:41:19 cognizant and careful of putting something into code which
11:41:22 is ultimately unenforceable under the charter.
11:41:25 I guess I am having a hard time understanding --
11:41:28 >> Well, see how we can come back with it.
11:41:30 >> What I would like to know is exactly what is the harm fa
11:41:36 that you feel, the problem that you would like to have more
11:41:38 information on, and maybe that would be helpful to me in
11:41:41 looking at that issue.
11:41:42 Because in terms of our staff agenda process, it gets put
11:41:47 into the process in a manner consistent with how all other
11:41:51 contracts are put into your doc agenda or file processing,
11:41:56 and so the doc agenda. In terms of any RFPs that are
11:42:01 necessary for real property I think as stated, not every
11:42:04 disposition of real property is obligated to go through an
11:42:08 RFP system.
11:42:09 Only those within the CRA.
11:42:11 And I could ask Sal to give more information on that.
11:42:14 So I guess I would need to have a better understanding of
11:42:16 what the issue that you are trying to resolve is.
11:42:20 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I suggest you and I meet and I'll come back.
11:42:23 We'll both look at it and see wharf would work as far as --
11:42:29 I feel that the council needs to be informed much earlier
11:42:34 than what we are.
11:42:36 And if it takes bringing to the code, then that's write
11:42:40 think we should go.
11:42:41 But let's talk about it.
11:42:43 And then bring a that back.
11:42:45 I won't make that motion now.
11:42:46 >>JULIA MANDELL: Thank you.
11:42:47 I appreciate that.
11:42:48 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I just maybe have a suggestion, Ms.
11:42:54 Mandell, or Mr. McDonaugh, on what Councilwoman Capin is
11:42:59 trying to achieve.
11:43:00 We get, as a matter of course, a report in our inboxes, and
11:43:07 not sure when it originated or had asked on council to get
11:43:12 this report, but tells us about water usage and the flow
11:43:19 that we have.
11:43:21 We also get reports on a regular basis of the lawsuits that
11:43:28 have been settled by the city.
11:43:30 And we get another report of contracts that were issued
11:43:33 under a certain amount of money.
11:43:36 And perhaps not in code written but as a procedure -- and
11:43:43 maybe if we look at the way those three issues originated,
11:43:48 those reports being sent to us on a regular basis, we also
11:43:51 receive a monthly calculation of the RFPs that were issued
11:43:57 in that 30-day period, or maybe on a quarterly period, or
11:44:02 something like that, since we do get regular reports from
11:44:06 other departments on similar --
11:44:10 >>BOB McDONAUGH: I know it's important for council to be
11:44:12 informed and you get calls from constituents and you want to
11:44:15 be educated so we need toe do a better job and we'll talk
11:44:20 about what we can do to make that work.
11:44:23 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I have a question about a particular
11:44:25 tenet of the procedures, and it's leases and licenses
11:44:31 understand policy 11-F-1.
11:44:34 It has -- the city has real property which it may decide to
11:44:39 execute miscellaneous short term license, legal permission,
11:44:42 or hold harmless agreement, and the last paragraph says they
11:44:47 usually have one day to meet terms.
11:44:50 Now, I know we move fast.
11:44:52 But maybe somebody can be look into that.
11:44:57 One day is a little short.
11:45:02 So that was the only question I had on the leases.
11:45:07 There was also on number 3.
11:45:11 This is land disposition policy for the City of Tampa.
11:45:14 Item number 3-C.
11:45:17 It says for properties classified as special negotiated
11:45:20 sales properties, the real estate division, the City
11:45:23 Council. City of Tampa prior to the submission of City
11:45:26 Council, any negotiated sales contract.
11:45:29 So I think that also may go to Councilwoman Capin's point.
11:45:35 There is a provision that we ought to be notified prior to
11:45:39 the sales contract being executed.
11:45:42 So it's submission to City Council of any negotiated sales
11:45:47 So that is another point that I had made in those
11:45:52 >> I think what they are saying you can't sell the
11:45:57 property --
11:45:57 >> I need your name.
11:45:59 >>SAL TERRITO: Legal department.
11:46:00 What they are saying is you can't sell the property until
11:46:03 you approve it.
11:46:04 The contract isn't executed until you approve it.
11:46:06 The mayor signs it after you approve it.
11:46:08 I think that's what it's dealing with.
11:46:09 It's not saying the contracts are going to come to you way
11:46:11 in advance.
11:46:12 We can't sell the property without City Council authorizing
11:46:15 the mayor to sign or execute the contracts.
11:46:18 And if we have a contract out there with somebody that's a
11:46:22 preliminary contract --
11:46:23 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I understand that, but it says shall
11:46:26 notify the City Council of the City of Tampa prior to the
11:46:28 submission to City Council.
11:46:31 So I am reading that as the submission to City Council is
11:46:34 when it becomes an agenda item, and it comes to us for a
11:46:37 vote on the agenda item but it says here that we shall be
11:46:42 notified prior to that happening.
11:46:46 That's how I'm reading that paragraph.
11:46:48 >>SAL TERRITO: I'm not sure that's what it means.
11:46:50 I'll look at it but I don't think that's what it means.
11:46:53 I am not trying to cut down on your authority but -- most
11:46:56 month I am not trying to expand our authority.
11:46:59 I'm just saying if we were notified -- and we have had many
11:47:02 conversations about negotiated properties, because they
11:47:04 usually show up -- I think all the time show up under my
11:47:07 committee, and I get the agenda, and often I'm reaching out
11:47:13 to her to find out if thereby was an appraisal done, can I
11:47:16 see the appraisal, we have a little discussion sometimes,
11:47:19 you know, sometimes really short ones, but I find myself --
11:47:26 and no disrespect.
11:47:28 I think Ms. Ammon is doing a wonderful Josh, I think changed
11:47:35 considerably since she took over, but you find myself
11:47:37 getting the agenda late Friday night, getting my book on
11:47:40 Monday or Tuesday, and then having to make the call to find
11:47:43 out, can I get some information on this transaction?
11:47:47 >>SAL TERRITO: I understand.
11:47:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Anyone else? Anyone public care to speak
11:47:52 on item number 7?
11:47:53 Please come forward.
11:47:54 Item number 7.
11:47:56 Thank you very much.
11:47:59 Mr. Cohen, you want to speak on item 8?
11:48:02 >>HARRY COHEN: I was the maker of the motion on item number
11:48:05 I would be willing to postpone that till our next workshop
11:48:08 session if it's the pleasure of council.
11:48:09 And I apologize to the staff for that.
11:48:11 But I do know that everyone wanted to have a full discussion
11:48:14 about that.
11:48:15 So that's an option.
11:48:15 >> Second.
11:48:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mr. Cohen.
11:48:19 Second by --
11:48:22 >>HARRY COHEN: February 27th at 10 a.m.
11:48:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- Mrs. Mulhern.
11:48:27 February 27th at 10 a.m.
11:48:29 Further discussion by council members?
11:48:31 Before I go, this is a public hearing.
11:48:32 Anyone in the public care to speak on the continuation of
11:48:34 item number 8?
11:48:36 >> Pete Johnson, 510 Harrison street.
11:48:54 Because this is such an important discussion, and the
11:48:59 implication of 85% compliance since the program started, I
11:49:09 strongly would want to hold this discussion as soon as
11:49:13 If it is council's feeling not to come back after lunch,
11:49:18 that's fine.
11:49:19 But we need to get to the bottom of this.
11:49:22 We need to correct this code problem.
11:49:24 These fines that are not being collected, which are by state
11:49:28 statute noncollectable.
11:49:33 We need to correct this civil citation program where either
11:49:38 it works, or we go back to the original program, or we go
11:49:43 back just the way the state statute reads, all violations
11:49:47 are to have a hearing of their peers.
11:49:51 Thank you.
11:49:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I believe the motion was to February
11:49:53 27th at 10:00 a.m.
11:49:56 Made by Mr. Cohen.
11:49:57 Seconded by Mrs. Mulhern.
11:49:58 Further discussion by council members?
11:50:00 On part 8, signify by saying aye.
11:50:07 Motion passed unanimously Mr. Reddick?
11:50:08 >>FRANK REDDICK: Let me make a motion.
11:50:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: The motion would be to have it February
11:50:16 27th at 10 a.m., the year 2014.
11:50:20 Motion made by Mr. Reddick.
11:50:21 Seconded by Mr. Suarez.
11:50:23 Anyone in the public dire discuss this, the continuance of
11:50:26 the second part, the update part regarding compliance cases
11:50:30 of civil citation?
11:50:32 Please come forward.
11:50:33 I see no one.
11:50:35 I will take a vote on the motion.
11:50:36 All in favor of the motion please signify by saying aye.
11:50:38 Opposed nay.
11:50:40 Motion passes unanimously.
11:50:41 Information, new business by council members.
11:50:43 >>HARRY COHEN: We have to meet tonight.
11:50:47 I was wondering if we could do new business tonight.
11:50:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: All right.
11:50:57 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Can I say something?
11:50:59 Happy birthday to Mr. Weintraub.
11:51:03 Besides this being a memorable date for him, January
11:51:06 30th marks the 50th year that my beloved husband,
11:51:11 then in high school, asked me to be his high school
11:51:15 I just wanted to remind you.
11:51:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Anything else?
11:51:20 All right.
11:51:20 We stand in recess.
11:51:24 I have a motion to receive and file by Mr. Cohen.
11:51:27 Seconded by Mr. Suarez.
11:51:28 All in favor of the motion?
11:51:30 Opposed ever? Motion passed unanimously.
11:51:35 Notice carefully we stand adjourned until 5:01, and that's
11:51:39 in the evening, not in the morning.
11:51:49 (City Council adjourned until 5:01 p.m.)
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