Tampa City CRA
Thursday, February 13, 2014
9:00 a.m. session
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09:05:09 >> CHAIRMAN FRANK REDDICK: We are going to call this CRA
09:05:10 meeting to order and yield to Mr. Suarez.
09:05:12 >> Thank you, chair.
09:05:13 It's my pleasure to introduce Mr. Allison "Al" Leroy Lewis,
09:05:18 Sr., a native of Tampa, Florida, very active in his
09:05:21 neighborhood association, Port Tampa, city neighborhood
09:05:23 civic association.
09:05:26 He's a former Gulf war gas depot operator.
09:05:38 He's the second oldest baptized male of 58 years.
09:05:42 Al has a management of his church's kitchen, cooking meals
09:05:46 for all church functions and sits with the food pantry
09:05:49 distributing food to shut ins and needy families, helps with
09:05:53 maintenance and upkeeps of the church grounds, sings in an
09:05:56 all-male choir, a mentor of the couples ministry, even takes
09:06:00 time to bike ride for exercise and walks daily chatting with
09:06:03 neighbors to take back issues and concerns to his
09:06:05 neighborhood association.
09:06:07 This year, Al, a Middleton high school alumni, alum, will be
09:06:13 76 years young and has been married to his life partner of
09:06:16 51 years, Betty Jean Lewis, a Blake high alum.
09:06:22 Talk about a house divided.
09:06:24 They have two adult children, Al Jr., and the incomparable
09:06:27 city employee Ms. Carla Jackson, 8 grandchildren and 12
09:06:32 great grandchildren.
09:06:33 Please stand for the invocation and remain standing for the
09:06:38 pledge of allegiance.
09:06:39 >> First, I want to thank you, City Council, for inviting me
09:06:42 here today.
09:06:49 Will our heavenly father, our heavenly father, we thank you
09:06:55 for allowing to us wake up this morning, and thank you for
09:06:58 being the father that you are.
09:06:59 We thank you heavenly father for blessing us.
09:07:03 We don't know what's in store for us.
09:07:07 Father, only you know that.
09:07:08 And only you can guide us and lead us in the right
09:07:18 My father and everyone knows this is black history month.
09:07:22 Please help all of us to unite as one regardless of race,
09:07:28 creed or color, father.
09:07:29 You made us all in your image.
09:07:31 Father, guide our mayor and our City Council members and all
09:07:36 the other officials in this city.
09:07:39 Enable them to make the right decision for this great city
09:07:43 of Tampa, Florida.
09:07:44 And for our community, so our kids can have a good city to
09:07:49 live in.
09:07:50 Thank you, father.
09:07:52 [ Pledge of Allegiance ]
09:07:55 >> Roll call.
09:08:13 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
09:08:16 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Present.
09:08:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Here.
09:08:19 >>HARRY COHEN: Here.
09:08:22 >>FRANK REDDICK: Here.
09:08:25 All right.
09:08:26 We have got a presentation, commendation.
09:08:32 >>HARRY COHEN: Good morning, everyone.
09:08:42 Despite what it may often look like, we are something of a
09:08:45 family here at City Council, and when one of our own
09:08:49 departs, it's appropriate for us to mark the occasion.
09:08:53 And Lelia Blevins, who has been one of our clerks here for
09:09:00 many, many years, someone we are going to miss very, very
09:09:08 I know for myself when I looked down at the clerk who sits
09:09:11 right below the dais, and they look back up, there's a
09:09:15 certain look in their eyes that let's me know something is
09:09:18 going wrong.
09:09:20 And I have to figure out what it is.
09:09:21 And Lelia is a master at communicating with the eyes.
09:09:27 And that is something that I know I am personally going to
09:09:35 I did want to present her, on behalf of all of my colleagues
09:09:39 on the City Council, with this commendation.
09:09:42 It's recognition of years of dedication and service to both
09:09:49 the City of Tampa and Hillsborough County government.
09:09:50 The Tampa City Council extends its appreciation for your
09:09:54 commitment to providing excellent service to our local
09:09:57 governments and for being an outstanding example of a great
09:10:01 public servant.
09:10:03 And I must say as someone who for many years worked for the
09:10:07 county clerk it's sometimes a thankless job but it is one of
09:10:10 the most important jobs in government, to get the records
09:10:14 right and stand as a beacon for the integrity of the record
09:10:17 So Lelia, congratulations.
09:10:19 And we would like you to say a few words.
09:10:24 >> This has been a wonderful experience.
09:10:32 Both in the city as well as in the county.
09:10:34 And I thank you for everything that you have done.
09:10:38 Also, I would like to thank Shirley Foxx-Knowles, city
09:10:42 clerk, as well as all of the staff.
09:10:44 They have been wonderful.
09:10:46 Thanks again.
09:10:48 [ Applause ]
09:10:57 And my better half.
09:10:58 >> Do you want to say anything, too?
09:11:02 >> Well, yes.
09:11:03 I would like to say that this has been a good experience for
09:11:06 myself as well.
09:11:07 We have been together many years.
09:11:10 And I'm really thankful for her work ethic, her lifestyle.
09:11:16 I've been the follower.
09:11:19 She's been the leader.
09:11:20 So we have gotten along real well for about fifty something
09:11:24 years now.
09:11:24 So we have done real well.
09:11:26 And I would just like to say that I'm happy that she's able
09:11:30 to retire and I look back over all the years, meeting so
09:11:34 many people with the city and with the county, it's just
09:11:36 been a great experience for mesas well.
09:11:38 So thank you very kindly.
09:11:40 [ Applause ]
09:11:47 >>FRANK REDDICK: Of your eyes are a good example of what we
09:11:55 should be doing.
09:11:57 I look down and she's looking at me like -- what is he
09:12:02 [ Laughter ]
09:12:03 So I am going to miss that expression.
09:12:06 Thank you and congratulations.
09:12:07 >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: Good morning, council.
09:12:13 I also want to just say thank you, Lelia, for all that you
09:12:16 have done for our department.
09:12:18 You helped us become even more efficient and effective.
09:12:21 And we will certainly miss you.
09:12:23 You are a wonderful example of a good human being.
09:12:29 [ Applause ]
09:12:34 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Ms. Blevins, you aren't going to get away
09:12:37 that easy.
09:12:38 This is something that may not have come to your mind but do
09:12:41 you hear in your sleep, you know, "passed unanimously" or
09:12:47 the ordinance that we read?
09:12:49 Does that go through your head?
09:12:51 >> Yes, it does.
09:12:52 I'm going to miss it.
09:12:53 You are going to miss it?
09:12:54 We might have you come in and volunteer if you like.
09:12:57 Sometimes your fellow clerks, you know, need a break.
09:13:01 So we can bring you in.
09:13:04 Shirley, make sure she's on call.
09:13:07 But thanks again for your service to the city.
09:13:09 You have done a great job here.
09:13:11 And we appreciate everything you've done.
09:13:12 It's going to be really sad not seeing your face down
09:13:15 here -- no offense, Jim -- but we do appreciate everything
09:13:19 you have done for us as a City Council.
09:13:21 Thank you.
09:13:21 Enjoy your retirement.
09:13:22 >> Thank you.
09:13:28 >>YVONNE CAPIN: And thank you so much for keeping the record
09:13:30 >> Not last week.
09:13:37 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Well, she wasn't here last week.
09:13:40 [ Laughter ]
09:13:41 >> There you go!
09:13:43 [ Laughter ]
09:13:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: Anyone else?
09:13:46 Well, we thank you and wish you well in your retirement.
09:13:50 Thank you.
09:13:53 All right.
09:13:55 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Economic development.
09:13:58 As is our custom, we have a chair of one of the CDCs
09:14:04 chairs to talk about what's going on in their neighborhood.
09:14:06 This morning we are lucky to have Mr. Essie Simms to talk
09:14:09 about East Tampa.
09:14:10 >> Thank you, Bob, Frank Reddick, distinguished board
09:14:25 Thank you for having me again.
09:14:27 Last Thursday I was a little under the weather, still am,
09:14:32 but I do have two other items on the list.
09:14:39 Hope you packed your lunch.
09:14:40 All kidding aside.
09:14:41 I want to tell you some of the things that are exciting
09:14:43 going on in East Tampa.
09:14:44 We recently had our roundabout on 22nd street. We know that
09:14:48 we had a lot of debate about that over the past few years.
09:14:50 And it's been completed.
09:14:52 Our 30th street stormwater drainage has been completed.
09:14:59 And allocated to continue the conditions within the East
09:15:01 Tampa community.
09:15:03 Funding has also been allocated to help in our issue.
09:15:08 We know that East Tampa has one of the biggest problems in
09:15:10 the city with illegal dumping so we have allocated funding
09:15:14 to put in three new cameras to help in that initiative.
09:15:18 One of the things that I've done, now that I have been
09:15:21 elected for a second term, is to challenge all of our chairs
09:15:25 from the perspective conditions, kicked the ball off the
09:15:31 bilge -- bridge and hope that they can fly, and that means
09:15:35 we want to engage our community in a positive way to bring a
09:15:38 cohesiveness, unit to our community, and on our economic
09:15:45 development side, just this past year, a business symposium
09:15:49 that was well attended by residents all over the city.
09:15:52 They are planning another business symposium in March.
09:15:56 I would love to have you out there as well to be a part of.
09:15:59 That we will be putting on a bus tour, just prayer to that
09:16:03 business symposium to highlight the different entities that
09:16:05 we have in East Tampa so people can get familiar with all
09:16:08 the businesses within East Tampa, also those mom and pop
09:16:12 operations that want to expand to do business better.
09:16:17 They will have information there that they can help do that.
09:16:21 We also partisan with the East Tampa business civic
09:16:24 They are putting on a technology symposium next Saturday,
09:16:29 the 22nd over at Jackson height, NFL Yet is doing that.
09:16:36 So education and youth perspective, we partisan with many
09:16:40 different agencies going forward.
09:16:41 I met with some people yesterday from the different agencies
09:16:45 How do we deal with our healthy eating issues?
09:16:49 Obesity is a problem.
09:16:51 We are meeting with them.
09:16:52 How do we bring in that mind-set of healthy eating?
09:16:55 Also, dealing with the health challenges that we have in our
09:17:00 We have been partnering with Moffitt over the past few
09:17:03 And how do we get a good complete health assessment of our
09:17:07 community from agencies that are providers to make sure that
09:17:12 they are available in our community for those needs.
09:17:16 We also partisan with another group to deal with our
09:17:20 literacy problem.
09:17:21 We know the grade level of many African-American kids go to
09:17:26 school, 700 drop out of school.
09:17:29 So we need to deal with this issue from the infancy stage.
09:17:33 And ware putting some things in place that we can hopefully
09:17:35 begin to get parents to start developing their children at a
09:17:38 very early age.
09:17:42 We are partnering with Chief Castor.
09:17:44 I spoke with her on Tuesday night.
09:17:46 Again going forward we have done some things with her in the
09:17:48 past, and putting on some different forums that children can
09:17:52 come to, and being a positive, safe environment.
09:17:55 How do we get the kids to work together with police?
09:18:00 Both sides working with each other and solving some of the
09:18:04 problems we have in East Tampa.
09:18:06 As you know we recently had a serious major issue out at the
09:18:11 fair, and we are dealing with those things from East Tampa
09:18:13 as well.
09:18:14 We will be putting some things forward from our chair how to
09:18:20 address these things.
09:18:21 I know many people in our community have put on some
09:18:23 different things and trying to bring some people together,
09:18:26 how do we deal with our youth?
09:18:28 I'm a firm believer, it starts with parents.
09:18:31 You know, we can get Tampa committee to figure this out, but
09:18:36 unless we get the parents involved in this whole matter, I
09:18:39 think we are going to have a first issue going forward and I
09:18:42 so hope that many of our leaders will come onboard and we
09:18:45 can figure out a way to get the parents more engaged in this
09:18:48 process so we can stop some of the youth violence that wave
09:18:51 in East Tampa.
09:18:52 I want to invite you all.
09:18:55 We'll have an e-mail later today, June 7th.
09:19:00 Put that own your calendar, please.
09:19:02 We will have our summer event that has been well attended,
09:19:06 up to a thousand people every year.
09:19:08 We expect that to be great this year as well.
09:19:11 I'm excited about the development that is going on along
09:19:16 Hillsborough Avenue corridor.
09:19:19 We have properties that now has space for four rental
09:19:24 GQ establishment is expanding.
09:19:26 We now have a Family Dollar coming in over on 50th
09:19:31 Burger King has redesigned its building and it's now going
09:19:35 to be open very soon.
09:19:36 So we are excited about all the development that's going on
09:19:39 in East Tampa to help with our economic issues.
09:19:41 We thank the mayor and administration for all its due
09:19:46 diligence in helping bring in different companies that are
09:19:49 willing to locate in East Tampa so our residents can be a
09:19:54 beneficial partisan with all the developments going on.
09:19:57 And I'll close with this.
09:20:02 I coined a phrase that legal counsel had.
09:20:05 He always says it's a city owned park.
09:20:09 I believe East Tampa is a city on fire.
09:20:14 If there's any questions, I'll answer.
09:20:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: I hope the mayor sends you a Christmas
09:20:20 [ Laughter ]
09:20:25 On fire.
09:20:26 >> Well, you know, he remembers the song of Alicia keen "on
09:20:34 fire" so hopefully we'll get him to sing it.
09:20:38 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Well, let's hope he never sings any of
09:20:41 Alicia king's songs.
09:20:43 We have heard his voice.
09:20:44 >>FRANK REDDICK: Question from council?
09:20:48 >> Thanks for having me.
09:20:49 Have a great day.
09:20:50 >>FRANK REDDICK: Let me do this.
09:20:52 Let us go to item number 4 and come back to 3.
09:20:56 >>MAYOR BOB BUCKHORN: Certainly.
09:21:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: This is university of Tampa, I believe
09:21:04 has one of his coaches and one of his starting pitchers, and
09:21:07 they want to talk about their experience.
09:21:10 You know, this team here is the current U.S. champion
09:21:14 division 2.
09:21:15 But, coach, you can say more about the team than I can
09:21:18 because you're the big guy there.
09:21:20 You're the horse.
09:21:20 >> COACH JOE URSO: I brought with me the associate head
09:21:24 coach, and senior right hand pitcher, local kid in town who
09:21:31 has done very well for us for three years, also winning
09:21:34 pitcher of game one in Cuba, and I will let them talk a
09:21:39 little about their favorite experience in Cuba as well.
09:21:41 But for me, I just want to thank the council for all their
09:21:45 support and getting us to Cuba.
09:21:47 It wasn't a trip that was very easily put together.
09:21:50 Mr. Miranda, many of the council really fought for us to get
09:21:55 to Cuba to have this opportunity.
09:21:57 We did it in a short period of time.
09:21:59 We only had about a month to get our passports and
09:22:03 everything together.
09:22:03 My boss wanted me to put it off to next year when we could
09:22:07 prepare more.
09:22:08 But I felt like this championship team with so many
09:22:10 returners deserved an opportunity to go to Cuba and show
09:22:13 what the University of Tampa and the City of Tampa is all
09:22:17 We know the Cuban ties here.
09:22:20 Locally there's so many of the Cuban people in Tampa, and
09:22:24 thought it was a great experience for my guys.
09:22:26 One of my favorite moments was just watching these young men
09:22:29 play baseball over there.
09:22:30 We had a lot of tours.
09:22:32 We did a lot of fun stuff.
09:22:34 But watching them play baseball against some of the best in
09:22:36 the world was amazing. We went 3-0 while we were there.
09:22:40 But the best part was watching them give back to these kids.
09:22:45 Some of them took their -- items that were very precious to
09:22:51 my guys, they were giving up to these Cuban ball players
09:22:55 because they knew what it meant to them.
09:22:57 Came back with just a new appreciation for the little
09:23:01 And I'm hoping that it will move us to another championship
09:23:07 this year.
09:23:07 And looking back was the best experience.
09:23:10 Mr. Miranda talked about going as a child and playing ball
09:23:13 there, and many of the people in the West Tampa area, and
09:23:17 what it meant to them.
09:23:19 And I feel like I gave that to my ball players, coaching
09:23:25 staff, a memory of a lifetime.
09:23:27 Thank you all for allowing us to go to Cuba and experience
09:23:29 I'll turn it over to Coach Militello.
09:23:36 >> I also want to thank council for arranging this, and that
09:23:40 you have given us to make this trip possible.
09:23:43 For me growing up in West Tampa, and the Cuban ties we have,
09:23:51 it was great to go over there and see a lot of my friends
09:23:54 and families that were from there to be able to relate to
09:23:58 Going in, I didn't nobody what to expect when we got there.
09:24:01 But the biggest thing for me was the people and how nice
09:24:05 they were, how welcoming they were.
09:24:10 They wanted to know all about it.
09:24:11 They asked questions, tons of questions.
09:24:14 Of course, a lot of baseball questions, which their passion
09:24:16 was just unbelievable for that game.
09:24:18 But they also wanted to know about us, and how we grew up
09:24:22 and, you know, what our life was like for us.
09:24:25 And it was just great to be able to share that with them,
09:24:29 and also ask them questions as well and learn about them.
09:24:33 So I think it turned out to be an amazing experience, not
09:24:38 only for us but for our players to be able to go over there
09:24:41 and see a different culture, get to experience it, play some
09:24:46 baseball, which is what these guys love to do.
09:24:50 It ended up being a great experience for all of us and I'm
09:24:53 very thankful that I got the opportunity to do it.
09:24:56 >> Coach asked me to come along and share one of my favorite
09:25:04 memories from the trip, which is actually more difficult
09:25:07 than you think, because the entire trip was such an amazing
09:25:12 You know, something that really stuck out to me was being
09:25:16 able to interact with the kids in Cuba.
09:25:20 One of the day tours that we went on, we stopped by what
09:25:25 they called the nina-de-nina and these probably equivalent
09:25:34 to the Boys and Girls Club here, but that experience,
09:25:37 because it's something off the baseball field that really
09:25:40 touched me.
09:25:41 The kids there are so energetic and they were so excited to
09:25:44 see us, and their eyes just lit up when they got the chance
09:25:47 to unit act with us.
09:25:49 Of course, there's a little bit of a language barrier, but
09:25:52 that got pushed aside and they really took us in and enjoyed
09:25:58 interacting with us.
09:26:00 They sang us a song.
09:26:01 They asked us questions through people that could speak
09:26:06 Spanish on our team and stuff like that.
09:26:09 And being able to see what their everyday life is like
09:26:13 really gave you a new appreciation of I think that's
09:26:23 definitely something I'll take in W me for the rest of my
09:26:26 I just want to thank everybody involved for making the trip
09:26:28 possible, because it's something that I will keep with me
09:26:32 for the rest of my life.
09:26:34 Thank you.
09:26:34 >> And we are actively fund-raising to pay the balance of
09:26:42 the trip off.
09:26:43 So you can e-mail me or Coach Militello, find us on the Web
09:26:48 Once again thank you very much for the opportunity to take
09:26:51 us to the university of Cuba.
09:26:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Like the coach said, everything was done
09:26:55 kind of quickly because of time constraints.
09:26:57 He only had a week before the season started.
09:26:59 But he had to go only that one week because that was the
09:27:02 week before school started and that's the only week they
09:27:05 had, and put it off until November, and these young players
09:27:08 like one of the starters wouldn't have been there.
09:27:11 But it was great to see the interaction that I saw, myself
09:27:15 and others that were on the trip watching these young
09:27:19 persons perform.
09:27:20 And the coach was kind of nervous.
09:27:21 He said, boy, I sure like the one game the day before.
09:27:26 Then after he won the one game he said, boy, I would like to
09:27:30 win two out of three.
09:27:31 And then he said, I really want to sweep this thing.
09:27:35 So he's a forward thinker, and he's doing great.
09:27:38 I just sat back and watched.
09:27:40 They have a great team.
09:27:41 What's your record now in the U.S.?
09:27:42 >> We are 6-0.
09:27:44 >> You mean 6 losses?
09:27:46 >> No, six wins.
09:27:48 >> You are 9 and 0 so far.
09:27:52 Three in the Caribbean and six in the United state.
09:27:57 We are so proud, not that you are winners but the
09:28:00 interaction, and being the first college in the State of
09:28:04 Florida to go there.
09:28:05 I mean the first U.S. champion in baseball to go there meant
09:28:09 a lot to the future of whatever is coming, if it ever comes.
09:28:14 And it means so much to see -- you are like rock stars.
09:28:20 When this team walked into old Havana, they had on their
09:28:23 hats and their shirts, school kids were coming out.
09:28:27 Kids were like a magnet all to the players, and it was
09:28:31 hundreds of photographs taken.
09:28:32 And the kids were asking, giving you e-mails, and sent the
09:28:36 pictures back to us.
09:28:37 And I haven't done that yet but I will.
09:28:40 Then when you got to the corner in Central Park where all
09:28:44 the retired players meet on a daily basis to discuss
09:28:48 baseball, it was a 30-minute period that you all spent two
09:28:52 hours there signing autographs and discussing it with the
09:28:57 And they were thrilled.
09:28:59 You guys did an outstanding job, not just in winning but
09:29:03 performing like Tampa.
09:29:07 You represented your university, the City of Tampa, the
09:29:10 whole United States.
09:29:11 And I noticed one thing on the scoreboard.
09:29:13 It wasn't Tampa versus.
09:29:22 It was -- they had it on the scoreboard, USA versus them.
09:29:26 So that means something big out of that.
09:29:29 And I do have some e-mails that I will share with you from
09:29:34 kids that were bat boys, thank you for letting me go out
09:29:39 there and shag flies.
09:29:42 And said, have you ever shagged a fly?
09:29:48 They said no.
09:29:49 Well, watch them, these guys really hit.
09:29:51 And I was like a little spy and I went over to the Cuban dug
09:29:55 out and listen to what they were saying when you were doing
09:29:58 batting practice.
09:29:59 (Speaking Spanish)
09:30:02 And, boy, do they hit the hell out of that ball.
09:30:05 And we didn't hit any Homers, but we hit about seven or
09:30:08 eight doubles.
09:30:09 And there was one short stop in the Cuban team that caught
09:30:12 our eye.
09:30:13 And that guy hit two bombs.
09:30:16 It wasn't off of you, but you had already won that first
09:30:20 game 2-1.
09:30:21 But the guy hit two home runs to right center.
09:30:25 And that fence was 385, and the right fielder came in and
09:30:29 told me, Charlie that ball went 50 feet on the other side of
09:30:32 the fence.
09:30:33 And I will never forget, that was no 21-year-old kid, but I
09:30:38 know 23 was their limit.
09:30:43 I don't believe it was.
09:30:45 But you guys are just outstanding.
09:30:48 And I know hopefully you will win them all.
09:30:51 And this week you go where?
09:30:52 >> To Georgia college, ranked number three in the country so
09:30:56 it should be three good baseball games.
09:30:58 >> And what are you ranked at?
09:31:00 >> Right where we want to be right now, number one.
09:31:03 >> Well, I just wanted to get that out of you.
09:31:06 It's great to be number one.
09:31:08 Remember, when you are number one, everybody is shooting for
09:31:11 So you guys keep going.
09:31:13 Thank you very much.
09:31:14 There was a guy named Pippin whose father and I talked a
09:31:17 lot, and his father played for the Kansas City Royals,
09:31:20 Pittsburgh pirates and the Baltimore orioles.
09:31:23 And we got to talking about pitching and talking.
09:31:26 And the kid came up with the bases loaded and he hit a
09:31:30 triple and cleared the basis.
09:31:31 And I looked at him and I said, now, p both the kids hit a
09:31:37 He said your son had three RBIs.
09:31:39 I said, no, he hit to a triple play.
09:31:44 I will never forget that.
09:31:45 We had a nice time talking.
09:31:46 It was great to see you guys.
09:31:48 And you guys did well.
09:31:49 The coach played long ball, he played small ball.
09:31:53 There was a guy first and third and put the old squeeze into
09:31:58 runs scored and the Cubans looked at him and I said, they
09:32:01 can do it all.
09:32:02 They can play small.
09:32:03 They can throw.
09:32:04 And you guys really have a great pitching staff.
09:32:06 Especially that closer that you have when he throws to the
09:32:10 It looks like you are sitting in Florida, Toledo, Ohio
09:32:13 coming at you.
09:32:14 But good luck to you guys.
09:32:17 Keep going.
09:32:17 You're great.
09:32:19 And we are a few thousand dollars short, about 8 to 10,000.
09:32:22 So somebody that wants to make a contribution, call the
09:32:24 coach at the University of Tampa.
09:32:25 >> Thank you.
09:32:30 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right.
09:32:33 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Just a quick summary.
09:32:40 I know we have a lot of guests that are hoping to speak
09:32:42 today so I'll make this quick. You have a choice, health
09:32:46 choice on the 22nd.
09:32:48 You can go to fiesta dab or flan fest or run in the
09:32:52 Gasparilla classic.
09:32:54 >>HARRY COHEN: Which do you think we are going to do?
09:32:56 >> I know what I am going to do.
09:32:59 It doesn't include sneakers, I'll tell you.
09:33:01 That we have a historic clipper ship that's going to dock at
09:33:05 the convention center, the Lynx.
09:33:11 And on the business side, I want to let you know our
09:33:14 internal audit department took a look at our processes and
09:33:17 we had an audit done.
09:33:19 We had no findings.
09:33:20 So we have a clear audit.
09:33:22 You have distributed copies of the annual report and
09:33:25 If you would, please take a look at it.
09:33:27 If you see some changes you would like to have made, get
09:33:30 them back to us
09:33:31 And later today, we will have copies of the quarterly report
09:33:33 for you.
09:33:35 And that's my summary.
09:33:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: Let me just say this to the council here,
09:33:53 that after public comments, we are going to go to items 6,
09:33:57 7, 8 and 9 and then come back to number 5.
09:34:07 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Can I make a suggestion that we move 6, 7, 8
09:34:11 and 9 and hold the public comments right before the workshop
09:34:14 because many of those pertain to that.
09:34:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: Well, we can.
09:34:20 That's not a problem.
09:34:22 >>YVONNE CAPIN: There are a lot of people for that workshop.
09:34:24 >>LISA MONTELIONE: If there's anybody here to speak on a
09:34:29 different item --
09:34:33 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Well, we can ask.
09:34:34 >>FRANK REDDICK: Anyone here to speak on items 6, 7, 8 or
09:34:40 All right.
09:34:41 It seems like everybody is for 5.
09:34:43 All right.
09:34:43 >>HARRY COHEN: Would you like me to make a motion to
09:34:54 approve item number 6 and we can move right to public
09:34:58 Motion to approve item number 6.
09:35:00 >> Second.
09:35:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: Seconded by Mr. Suarez.
09:35:04 All those in favor?
09:35:07 Motion carried.
09:35:08 >>HARRY COHEN: Move item 7.
09:35:11 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Second.
09:35:11 >>FRANK REDDICK: Any discussion on the motion?
09:35:14 All those in favor say aye.
09:35:18 >>HARRY COHEN: Move item number 8.
09:35:20 >>BOB McDONAUGH: The owner of number 8 is here today.
09:35:25 And what's important is not only, so if I can have him.
09:35:33 >> Sure.
09:35:42 >> My name is Warren Freeton and this gentleman is Ed
09:35:47 Bushane and we have a company called greenwood which we are
09:35:53 currently in the process of our first facility right here in
09:35:57 And we both happen to live in the area so it makes it a
09:36:01 little convenient.
09:36:02 But basically our process involves taking waste tire and
09:36:09 removing the rubber component, the nylon fiber on the
09:36:12 passenger side of the line and also the steel, and recycling
09:36:16 those products and putting them back into the manufacturing
09:36:20 that we reuse.
09:36:21 It's a 360, as opposed to putting up a smoke stack
09:36:29 Everything that we are doing happens under the confines of a
09:36:33 So if you were to drive by the place, aside from the signs
09:36:37 you wouldn't know it was a tire recycling.
09:36:39 We were able to get a building in East Tampa, happened to be
09:36:44 one of the homeliest buildings in the area.
09:36:48 We chose it because of its size.
09:36:49 But with the help of the city, putting a face lift on it so
09:36:59 it will be quite a different representation from what it is
09:37:01 right now.
09:37:02 And we are very excited to be here.
09:37:03 Again we thank you for all your help.
09:37:05 >>FRANK REDDICK: Can you put a picture?
09:37:10 Can you put a picture there for us to see?
09:37:17 >>BOB McDONAUGH: They are talking about from going to one
09:37:24 to two shifts and employing up to 25 people at the facility.
09:37:28 >> And recycling is something that has become near and dear
09:37:34 to me for all the obvious reasons.
09:37:35 It is a good idea.
09:37:39 But you also have to be able to sustain those types of
09:37:43 So this facility allows us to do what we wanted to, do and
09:37:50 do it in a reasonable manner and employ people.
09:37:52 When we first built the model, I built it based on an
09:37:55 8-shower shift.
09:37:56 And all the components that it takes to operate that.
09:37:59 It quickly became apparent just by people approaching us,
09:38:02 and we literally are having to kick people out of the
09:38:06 facility right now, because machinery, some of it is getting
09:38:08 ready to load on a boat to come here.
09:38:11 So we are literally having to push people away.
09:38:14 But once we get operational we'll be at two shifts as
09:38:16 opposed to one very quickly.
09:38:18 And the head count is going to be someplace around the
09:38:22 25-person count.
09:38:24 And we are also excited about that.
09:38:26 I think particularly given the economic conditions in our
09:38:29 country, I think it's hard to argue with the fact that small
09:38:32 business is the driving engine behind our economy.
09:38:34 And we are extremely pleased to be part of that.
09:38:37 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, chair.
09:38:40 The product that you use in order to strip out the nylon and
09:38:45 the steel, what is that?
09:38:47 Is it a physical process, the machinery itself rips it out?
09:38:51 >> A combination of machinery and series of machines that
09:38:56 processes the material out.
09:38:58 It all happens at ambient temperature.
09:39:00 There is absolutely zero or negative environmental impact.
09:39:04 In fact, our machinery doesn't even produce dust.
09:39:07 All the fine grinds are done with a wet process.
09:39:11 So it's very clean.
09:39:13 We have been working with the Florida DBT.
09:39:21 I think they are excited about our process as opposed to
09:39:24 some of the alternatives out there.
09:39:26 And there are several.
09:39:27 Some of which work and some are so cost prohibitive.
09:39:30 And they have other issues as well.
09:39:33 >> I applaud you for doing this because one of the most
09:39:37 difficult things particularly because of the material used.
09:39:42 I remember 20 years ago there was a facility in California
09:39:44 that used to burn the tires and keep it interior, whatever
09:39:49 the excess, and it would collect the molten metal at the
09:39:54 bottom of this high heat process, and then sell it.
09:39:58 I don't know if you are familiar with that particular
09:40:00 >> I am.
09:40:03 Ours is a little different in that it's cold as opposed to
09:40:06 melting it on-site.
09:40:07 What we are doing is we have machines that will literally
09:40:10 come up, and for a truck driver, eight, ten pounds.
09:40:15 It will literally come and rip the beads out of the tire,
09:40:20 then put them into a bailer, and the bailer will start over
09:40:25 >> Thank you for doing this.
09:40:27 This is a great business to be bringing into Tampa.
09:40:29 And we appreciate it.
09:40:31 >> And like I said, this is only our first.
09:40:33 We have a very ambitious expansion plan.
09:40:36 Tampa will remain the headquarters, all the sales,
09:40:39 accounting and everything else will be done out of here so
09:40:42 as we do go forward and the business does grow, the
09:40:45 employment opportunities here in Tampa will certainly rise.
09:40:48 >> Thanks again for your investment in the city.
09:40:51 >>LISA MONTELIONE: What makes a city green and sustainable
09:40:58 is not only the actions that we as a city take ourselves,
09:41:01 but is very dependent on the business community to operate
09:41:06 in that space, in the green, in the environmentally
09:41:10 friendly, and the recycling business.
09:41:12 And I'm happy to add your facility to several others that
09:41:16 are here in different businesses, but all based in either
09:41:23 recycling or green business.
09:41:25 So thank you for that.
09:41:27 Do you know about when you will be ready to start hiring?
09:41:33 >> We are planning on someplace around April time frame,
09:41:38 actually turning the switch on.
09:41:40 And then shortly before the machines go on, of course, we
09:41:42 will be hiring people to operate those machines.
09:41:46 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I asked because next week, I'm hosting a
09:41:50 job fair with Kathy Castor, U.S. Congresswoman Kathy Castor
09:41:55 at MOSI.
09:41:57 And if you are ready, I would love to invite you to be there
09:41:59 to enter view some applicants.
09:42:01 But it might be a little soon for you.
09:42:03 >> It might be a little soon.
09:42:06 I have no problem interviewing people.
09:42:07 And we definitely want to hire from the area.
09:42:11 That's part of the goal here.
09:42:12 But what I don't want to do is get them tied up for a couple
09:42:15 of months.
09:42:16 >> Right.
09:42:17 That's why I asked about --
09:42:19 >> Another opportunity.
09:42:20 If you are out there looking for a job, which I think is
09:42:23 probably the hardest job in the world, you want to get that
09:42:26 result as soon as possible.
09:42:27 And I certainly understand that.
09:42:29 And this whole thing again is very, very exciting for us.
09:42:37 I literally escaped from corporate America so I can do this.
09:42:42 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I like that, escaped.
09:42:43 >> That's the way I view it.
09:42:45 It was a very refreshing event for me to finally get out of
09:42:49 that venue, and I actually worked for a national company
09:42:54 which was involved in tire recycling of all things.
09:42:57 And they didn't like this process.
09:43:00 And I can see the benefits that it has, where it was going
09:43:05 to go.
09:43:06 And many of the customers that we had were my former
09:43:12 employer have contacted me, and they asked us to do their
09:43:14 disposal work in Tampa because they like our process so
09:43:17 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Fantastic.
09:43:20 Thank you for joining the ranks of the entrepreneur
09:43:22 And small business is what keeps us running here.
09:43:25 >> You are absolutely correct. I believe that from the
09:43:27 bottom of my soul.
09:43:28 >> Thank you very much.
09:43:29 >>FRANK REDDICK: We thank you.
09:43:32 >> Move item number 8.
09:43:36 >> Seconded motion by Mr. Cohen, seconded by Mrs. Capin.
09:43:43 All in favor?
09:43:45 Anybody here for number 9?
09:43:50 >> Move item number 9.
09:43:51 >> Second.
09:43:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: Motion from Mrs. Capin, second by Mr.
09:43:56 All in favor say aye.
09:44:00 The person that we did ex-officio --
09:44:05 >> Manager for the port of Tampa.
09:44:07 >>FRANK REDDICK: Is he here?
09:44:08 >> No, he's not.
09:44:09 >> I just wanted to recognize him and give him a chance to
09:44:13 All right, we'll go to public comments.
09:44:24 And then workshop.
09:44:26 Anyone to speak, come forward.
09:44:27 You have three minutes.
09:44:29 State your name and address.
09:44:30 >> Okay, I'm ed, Ed Tillou, Sulphur Springs.
09:44:45 These are different items on here W.respect to item 1,
09:44:51 Now, I had a little thing over at the county commission.
09:44:57 I think commendations are a very good idea, but I think it's
09:45:02 at the neglect of so many things.
09:45:04 And as a start, here is CVS.
09:45:10 CVS has stopped selling cigarettes.
09:45:12 That cost them a lot of money.
09:45:14 But it's the right thing to do.
09:45:16 In public health, I thought it was a little too Draconian
09:45:20 what they were doing but it seems to be working.
09:45:24 The rate of smoking is going down.
09:45:27 Here is a bus driver in New York.
09:45:28 This was in today's paper.
09:45:29 He was killed.
09:45:30 Now, Tampa has really fantastic bus drivers.
09:45:35 Hart works well.
09:45:36 But that's a managerial problem.
09:45:42 Another commendation would be Costentino.
09:45:44 He did a lot of work on that commemoration of the 100th
09:45:48 anniversary of the Jannus flight.
09:45:52 If it hadn't been for him that wouldn't have been
09:45:54 commemorated, a very important event, the first commission
09:45:57 commercial flight.
09:45:59 As I say, that's item 1.
09:46:01 Item 2, East Tampa.
09:46:04 The problem with East Tampa, they bring a lot of people here
09:46:08 complaining about loud stereos which creates a weak noise
09:46:11 Here is a very serious noise problem in Tampa.
09:46:16 I told a planner about it.
09:46:17 And it's off his radar.
09:46:20 The fact is that Tampa has become substantially unlivable
09:46:24 over the past three or four years.
09:46:26 I've seen it develop from these noisy cars, running without
09:46:30 mufflers, running with some kind of muffler that makes them
09:46:35 And you don't see -- most of you never see it because you
09:46:39 live in South Tampa, downtown, Channelside, I don't know.
09:46:42 But this is a very serious problem in north Tampa.
09:46:45 It's like there's two Tampas.
09:46:47 There's downtown, South Tampa and then north Tampa, which is
09:46:52 becoming unlivable.
09:46:54 So, anyway, think about Sulphur Springs, serious problems.
09:47:03 This is another of the things, the state fair had to be
09:47:08 closed down which is a little bit of a planning issue
09:47:10 because very often zoning things come, and there's a Ned for
09:47:14 an understanding, agriculture, planning, certainly the fair
09:47:18 should not be closed down.
09:47:20 And a kid killed.
09:47:22 I am bringing in material next week, because a very similar
09:47:25 thing happened there.
09:47:25 And the guy went to jail for a long period of time because
09:47:29 than kid got killed as a result of the disruption.
09:47:31 And those kids arrested could be put in jail for serious
09:47:39 This is a community effort.
09:47:40 (Bell sounds)
09:47:43 P not just one person should speak.
09:47:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
09:48:03 Mr. Davis.
09:48:04 >> Mr. Chairman, members of the Community Redevelopment
09:48:06 Agency, I'm Al Davis, 3717 east Wilder Avenue.
09:48:12 I'm so glad to be here.
09:48:16 I want to come up and thank you for what you are doing.
09:48:19 One of the things that I find very interesting is the fact
09:48:22 that this agency, and working through the administration, is
09:48:32 moving right along.
09:48:33 I know that a number of issues need to be addressed and be
09:48:40 But I'm still seeing that things are being addressed and the
09:48:54 people in the redevelopment area is -- has come to fruition.
09:48:59 I know many of you, maybe all of you, tomorrow, what do you
09:49:08 call that, love day, Valentine's, and I'm sure you have got
09:49:14 gifts for the person that you live or you can love the one
09:49:17 that you want.
09:49:24 And I'll be back next month.
09:49:28 Thank you, sir.
09:49:28 >> Well, thank you.
09:49:34 The four of us that are here are the ones that are single.
09:49:37 >>FRANK REDDICK: And I don't plan on proposing.
09:49:42 [ Laughter ]
09:49:43 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I don't know.
09:49:44 >> Is this the right time to talk about item number 5?
09:49:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: Well, we normally after the workshop take
09:49:55 public comment.
09:49:55 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: Okay, thanks.
09:50:01 >>FRANK REDDICK: We would prefer to stay that way.
09:50:03 All right.
09:50:20 We are going to take -- take up number 5 and hear from Mrs.
09:50:30 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you.
09:50:30 I moved to have this meeting today because we do have a bond
09:50:39 payoff and there's been a lot of speculation about those
09:50:49 funds, or available funds, and I will just tell you what
09:50:56 happened yesterday.
09:50:56 And this is just one of the many calls that came to my
09:51:01 A media personality called my office and asked if we were
09:51:06 having a discussion on the Rays baseball money.
09:51:13 This is a media person.
09:51:15 So the perception that it is designated is out there.
09:51:22 And that's what brought me to this point, because we are the
09:51:25 CRA board.
09:51:26 We do oversee these moneys.
09:51:29 And these expenditures.
09:51:31 So with that, I would like to move forward in that we
09:51:40 understand that we are talking about the downtown CRA, which
09:51:44 is where this bond will be paid off in 10-15-15.
09:51:54 This is an interlocal agreement in 2003 with the county.
09:51:58 And I wanted this to be a conversation with the stakeholders
09:52:03 in our downtown area, and with our citizens, because this
09:52:09 money is the money that belongs to all the citizens of our
09:52:13 And how we feel or you feel that would enhance our downtown
09:52:19 area in the future and how those moneys could be used or
09:52:23 should be used.
09:52:26 And I would like to move forward and just hear if there's
09:52:30 any other council members that would like to speak on this
09:52:34 I would be glad to hear from them.
09:52:36 Right now we have about $14 million that is TIF funds that
09:52:41 come to the downtown CRA.
09:52:45 And I understand one of the comments is the county, the
09:52:51 school board has to agree to give up those tax dollars to
09:52:57 the city, to the downtown CRA.
09:53:02 If that does not happen, it will be the city, recoups 48% of
09:53:08 that, which right now would be $6,800,000 as opposed to
09:53:16 If the county were to decide not to participate.
09:53:20 That's being worked out and negotiated by our mayor as we
09:53:25 speak, and hopefully they come to an agreement.
09:53:39 The CRA was formed in 1983 by state statute and we have 30
09:53:43 years from 1988 in downtown, or we feel we do.
09:53:48 The city feels we do.
09:53:51 Anyway, if Mr. Territo would like to weigh in on any of his
09:53:55 expertise on the subject I would be glad to hear about it.
09:53:57 >>SAL TERRITO: Legal department.
09:54:01 I'm just here to hear what everybody has to say.
09:54:06 I have no comments at this time.
09:54:07 >>FRANK REDDICK: Well, to be very, very clear about the
09:54:17 downtown Channelside area.
09:54:20 I think you need to explain to people that those funds that
09:54:25 are collected within that CRA, would you explain to the
09:54:30 public that these funds will be utilized for other projects
09:54:38 over in West Tampa, or north Tampa, and will you explain
09:54:42 that they got to be within that boundary in order for those
09:54:46 funds --
09:54:49 >>SAL TERRITO: Any money that's collected in each of the
09:54:52 CRA areas has to be spent in those areas and cannot be spent
09:54:56 outside of those areas.
09:54:57 So the moneys collected downtown, in the downtown CRA area,
09:55:01 that money may be spent only in the downtown CRA area.
09:55:04 Even if the other areas of the city need those funds, and
09:55:07 they may not be spent in any of those other areas.
09:55:10 The same with the Channelside.
09:55:11 Same with East Tampa.
09:55:12 Same with any of the districts, areas within which that
09:55:17 money is collected.
09:55:18 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
09:55:19 I wanted to make sure that was clear Mr. Suarez.
09:55:21 >>MIKE SUAREZ: There's a few things this I want to speak to
09:55:24 on this.
09:55:26 I would like to call Ms. Little up.
09:55:29 I think she's back there.
09:55:31 I can't see with all the cameras there.
09:55:34 Mrs. Little, thank you for coming here.
09:55:37 A couple questions.
09:55:39 And Ms. Capin set this up until terms of where we are at in
09:55:44 terms of our repayment.
09:55:45 October of next year, we are going to repay the -- excuse
09:55:51 me, 2015 wave to reauthorize or stop with the TIF dollars
09:55:56 that we are receiving, we are going to be paying off, I
09:55:59 think, our final bond at that time?
09:56:02 >>SONYA LITTLE:
09:56:03 The original bonds related to -- for this purpose, secured
09:56:08 by the downtown TIF funds, were issued back in 1985.
09:56:12 Those bonds were refunded for savings several times.
09:56:17 Currently we have the 2001 bonds.
09:56:20 And you referred to the final maturity of October 1, 2015.
09:56:25 So this year, we'll have two payments to pay back interest
09:56:29 and principal meaning April 1, 2014, October 1, 2014, and
09:56:35 the same in 2015 for a total of 27 million.
09:56:40 At that time, the bonds are matured, and the debt related to
09:56:43 these bonds has all been satisfied.
09:56:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: In terms of amount that far we receive from
09:56:52 the district, in terms of our funding, how much of it is
09:56:57 shared with the county in terms of the percentage, if you
09:56:59 know it offhand?
09:57:00 >> It's roughly 50-50.
09:57:02 It's very close.
09:57:04 >> So right now -- and Mrs. Capin touched on it a moment
09:57:08 ago -- there was an agreement made by the CRA in 2003,
09:57:13 agreed to by the City Council in 2003, and then signed into
09:57:17 an agreement with the county in terms of reauthorization of
09:57:24 Right now we are negotiating.
09:57:26 This might be for Mr. Territo.
09:57:29 Right now we are renegotiating a renewal on that particular
09:57:34 >>SAL TERRITO: Legal department.
09:57:36 We have an agreement with the county that covers all of the
09:57:38 CRA, and even areas understood that agreement that were not
09:57:44 permitted -- excuse me.
09:57:52 The time or geographic areas.
09:57:54 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I get choked up as well.
09:57:58 >>SAL TERRITO: (off microphone) or any new CRA at that
09:58:07 >>MIKE SUAREZ: I have a question for you.
09:58:09 Because you worked for the city at the time that that
09:58:12 agreement was drafted, correct?
09:58:13 >> I was not.
09:58:14 >> You were not.
09:58:16 Have you found any reason why we entered into an agreement
09:58:19 that essentially stripped us of our ability to create our
09:58:24 own CRAs?
09:58:25 >> I know what led to the agreement but I'm not sure why.
09:58:31 Between the city and the county.
09:58:33 In 1984, the state statute changed.
09:58:35 The state statute basically said any county -- we were
09:58:52 fortunate at that time that any CRA prayer to the charter
09:58:59 were grandfathered in.
09:59:00 In 2003, a dispute came up, that applied to the CRA, would
09:59:08 that apply to CRA areas that were created?
09:59:11 The city took the position that the entire CRA was
09:59:13 grandfathered in, and any areas created pursuant to that
09:59:17 would also have been grandfathered in.
09:59:20 After that time, and the county, the CRA areas that affect
09:59:28 block grants.
09:59:30 I'm not sure what it was at that time because I wasn't here.
09:59:34 >>MIKE SUAREZ: In terms of any changes in state law, has
09:59:40 there been any changes in state law that would preclude us
09:59:43 from no longer continuing that agreement between the city
09:59:49 and the county, meaning that if we as a CRA decided to
09:59:53 discontinue that agreement, and then could be able to have
09:59:56 the ability to create our own CRAs, isn't that possible?
10:00:00 Can we undo something that was done in 2003?
10:00:05 >> The only change since that time, the time that we created
10:00:09 the local agreement, there's nothing in the statute dealing
10:00:11 with the interlocal agreement.
10:00:14 If anything since that time interlocal agreements were
10:00:17 codified in the statute.
10:00:19 >> So you are saying we don't have the power to control any
10:00:22 agreement we have with the county, vis-a-vis this particular
10:00:27 agreement with the county?
10:00:29 We can't make a decision and say we are no longer going to
10:00:32 be a party to this particular decision that was made in
10:00:39 >> The contract requires all parties to agree on change in
10:00:42 the language.
10:00:44 And be bound by the agreement.
10:00:46 >> Okay.
10:00:47 But again, maybe I misstated it and I apologize.
10:00:52 Can we undo that interlocal agreement and not be a party to
10:00:56 it anymore and make the statement that we can create our own
10:00:59 CRAs at any time, based on the state law, based on the
10:01:02 fact that we were a chartered city prior to the county
10:01:05 having a charter?
10:01:07 Can we make that argument?
10:01:08 >>SAL TERRITO: I think we made the argument at the time,
10:01:15 and --
10:01:19 >> If state statute still stands, we should still have that
10:01:24 power to agree or not agree to anything we have done in the
10:01:28 >> We also have the power to create an interlocal agreement
10:01:33 saying we are going to give up those powers or with this
10:01:37 particular agency --
10:01:39 >> So you are saying an interlocal agreement can supersede
10:01:42 any other power that our board here currently, City Council,
10:01:47 we can give away our powers in an interlocal agreement at
10:01:51 any time?
10:01:52 >>SAL TERRITO: The City Council and the city administration
10:01:55 found -- you being the CRA are a dependent special district
10:02:02 of the city, not an independent special district.
10:02:09 And what the City Council decides to give yourselves.
10:02:13 The City Council, negotiating with the county to give some
10:02:17 of those powers up.
10:02:18 And that's what happened.
10:02:21 Powers were given up.
10:02:22 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Let me rephrase my question then.
10:02:24 I'm asking is any agreement that we enter into perpetuity E,
10:02:28 you mean to tell me that we cannot discontinue an agreement
10:02:31 with the county on this particular issue?
10:02:36 >>SAL TERRITO: Until the time comes, and any government
10:02:41 agreement, you cannot unilaterally say I am not going to
10:02:48 abide by this any longer.
10:02:49 The statute allows the agreement in the -- provision in the
10:02:54 statute, you are allowed to gift up the same way you are
10:02:57 allowed to give up a lot of powers.
10:02:59 >>MIKE SUAREZ: And I'm asking the question as to what our
10:03:05 next steps are and I apologize for asking so many questions
10:03:08 This but the decision in 2003 literally put us in a
10:03:11 disadvantage in terms of our relationship to the county when
10:03:14 it comes to CRA creation, and CRA dollars.
10:03:17 Now we have to be go to the county every single time that
10:03:21 these agreements have expired to ask them for the amount of
10:03:25 money that is created within city limits for the purposes of
10:03:28 the CRA.
10:03:30 That's something that was, you know, obviously I don't know
10:03:33 if -- and again I have not done the research in terms why
10:03:36 they made that decision.
10:03:37 I think Mr. Territo has done a lot of that, and he had to
10:03:40 come up for reasons why it was done.
10:03:43 So one of the problems I had with this is that -- and Ms.
10:03:48 Capin touched on it which is CRA dollars are controlled by
10:03:51 the CRA board in terms of what we are going to use that for,
10:03:56 in agreement with the City of Tampa.
10:03:58 Having a county agreement essentially having a third party
10:04:02 in there to say, well, we are willing to share with it, now
10:04:07 they can hold us up for any purposes that we have in terms
10:04:10 of the percentage that we goat.
10:04:12 Now, again, it may be a very easy agreement to reenter into,
10:04:17 and may be something that's going to be simple.
10:04:19 But at the same time, it may be difficult.
10:04:21 We might have a county commission at some point that says,
10:04:24 no way, we are not going to do this.
10:04:26 So where do we stand if something like that happens, say
10:04:29 listen, we are only giving you 20% of what's being produced
10:04:32 within the CRA district?
10:04:33 >>SAL TERRITO: (off microphone) the statute authorizes and
10:04:40 requires any of the governments that are bound by the CRA
10:04:42 statute to contribute to that trust fund.
10:04:46 Anything in existence prior to that agreement is still in
10:04:49 Anything since that time, city and county agreed to share,
10:04:55 that's permitted understood the statute under the interlocal
10:04:59 The only restrictions right now, nor may you extend debt
10:05:09 Outside of that, you are bound by the agreement.
10:05:15 The county is compelled to give money.
10:05:17 If tough CRA areas, you have some of those.
10:05:26 It does affect some of those, you may not expend without
10:05:30 going back to the county, extending the time, and includes
10:05:35 changing the boundary, and includes changing -- that was the
10:05:41 agreement of 2003 on those not locked in for that particular
10:05:45 >>MIKE SUAREZ: One last question, chair.
10:05:50 As a body, can we negotiate to get out of that particular
10:05:53 agreement with the city?
10:05:54 Let's say the administration, we said, listen, we don't want
10:05:58 to be part of this anymore and the administration agreed,
10:06:00 could we pull out of the interlocal agreement with the
10:06:04 >>SAL TERRITO: As I said, your authority is granted by
10:06:09 And what the city and administration decide to do, once you
10:06:15 get the funding --
10:06:16 >>MIKE SUAREZ: That's my point, Mr. Territo. I'm saying if
10:06:19 the administration agreed to pull out of that particular
10:06:21 agreements we could?
10:06:22 >>SAL TERRITO: If you want to be in violation of the
10:06:26 contract be my guest.
10:06:27 As you are standing right now there's an agreement and the
10:06:29 agreement is binding on all the parties.
10:06:31 So if they want to challenge that.
10:06:37 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
10:06:42 And I'm going to belabor the point and follow up on some of
10:06:45 the things that Councilman Suarez just brought up.
10:06:49 The interlocal agreement is a contract between this body,
10:06:52 the CRA, and the Hillsborough County Board of County
10:06:56 >> The city, CRA and three party agreement.
10:07:02 >> It's a tri-party agreement?
10:07:04 >> Yes, it is.
10:07:06 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So the city itself, or the
10:07:07 administration as you have referred to it, this body and the
10:07:13 So now I think Mr. Suarez' point is why we are handicapped
10:07:21 in renegotiating that agreement, because although you
10:07:25 mentioned pull out of the agreement, or default on the
10:07:30 agreement, or walk away from the contract, the part you left
10:07:34 out is renegotiating the contract.
10:07:36 And, you know, any agreement between parties can at some
10:07:41 point be renegotiated, not just simply walk away.
10:07:45 But what I am hearing, because it's a tri-party agreement,
10:07:50 we can decide to renegotiate.
10:07:53 But the city, the administration, could decide they don't
10:07:59 want to renegotiate.
10:08:00 So now it's kind of a catch-22 in my mind, because we as
10:08:11 City Council sit as the board of the Community Redevelopment
10:08:16 However, much of what we do as an agency, we have handed
10:08:24 over to the administration, because we have another contract
10:08:30 for the management of the CRA with the staff of the City of
10:08:34 Tampa economic development division.
10:08:41 So it's sometimes hard for me, or hard probably for any of
10:08:50 us -- I don't want to speak for everybody -- but it's hard
10:08:53 for any of us to think, well, what can we do?
10:08:56 Because we are hampered by these two agreements that were
10:09:03 put in place prior to any of us being elected.
10:09:07 And one is the management agreement with the administration,
10:09:11 and one is the interlocal agreement with the county.
10:09:14 So anything that we want to do as a CRA really has to meet
10:09:20 the litmus test of the administration.
10:09:23 If they don't want to go forward with it -- and I'm not
10:09:26 speaking just about this mayor.
10:09:27 Any mayor.
10:09:28 Any previous mayor or any future mayor.
10:09:31 If they don't want to go forward with it, then the CRA of
10:09:37 Tampa by having those two agreements in place.
10:09:40 So Mr. Suarez didn't come out and say it specifically, but
10:09:46 what would we -- what steps -- two questions.
10:09:50 What steps would we take to renegotiate either of those
10:09:55 And what is currently transpiring now between -- and this
10:10:01 might be a question for Mr. McDonaugh -- what is currently
10:10:04 transpiring now between our management company, the City of
10:10:08 Tampa, administration, economic development, and the Board
10:10:12 of County Commissioners?
10:10:13 Because I know from talking to some of the county
10:10:16 commissioners, there are negotiations going on.
10:10:20 And I don't know personally, except for bits and pieces of
10:10:24 what is being talked about.
10:10:26 Because I talk to one commissioner, I get one piece of the
10:10:32 puzzle P.I talk to a different commission.
10:10:34 I get a different piece of the puzzle.
10:10:36 So I'm having to piece together all of these things that I
10:10:40 hear about what they are talking about.
10:10:42 And some of it is public record.
10:10:44 They talked about it during Board of County Commissioners
10:10:47 meeting, and I have no live so I watch those on Saturdays.
10:10:50 The replays, at night sometimes, and I hear that way what's
10:10:57 But maybe Mr. McDonaugh can fill us in on what those
10:11:01 negotiations currently are between the city and the county,
10:11:04 and as far as the CRAs go, expansion, extension.
10:11:12 >>SAL TERRITO: Interlocal agreements negotiated between the
10:11:16 city and the CRA, your powers are derivative.
10:11:19 That's one agreement.
10:11:20 The agreement that you as a CRA have with the city on the
10:11:23 administration of your program is something you renew every
10:11:28 You have control over that.
10:11:29 That was originally done for the only CRA area at the time
10:11:33 was the downtown area.
10:11:34 The only function they had --
10:11:35 >> Sure, it makes sense be.
10:11:37 >> Plus there's no extra funding.
10:11:40 That's why it was done.
10:11:41 That is -- every year that agreement comes before you and
10:11:46 you have discretion on how would you like to negotiate that.
10:11:48 >> When does it come up again?
10:11:50 >> It's fiscal year, October 1st, I believe.
10:11:53 Fiscal year.
10:11:53 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Economic development.
10:12:01 The general consensus was that the city, the CRA, would like
10:12:05 to extend a couple of the existing CRAs, specifically
10:12:10 downtown, Ybor, and because they were coming up for
10:12:16 And again, there was some discrepancy as to the
10:12:19 interpretation of exactly what that date was, whether it was
10:12:22 2016 or 2018.
10:12:25 And, also, the formulation of a new CRA area in the West
10:12:31 Tampa area.
10:12:32 Now, to be specific, if the county did not want to entertain
10:12:40 this, they could say, you can continue on with these CRAs,
10:12:44 but we are not going to share any of our revenues.
10:12:47 And so it's specifically in downtown.
10:12:50 They could say, fine, or the CRA, here is the expiration
10:12:55 date, and we are done.
10:12:58 And we can go ahead and renew it ourselves and use the
10:13:01 new -- there's two issues there.
10:13:05 If it's a new CRA we start the new base lane so there would
10:13:08 be virtually no income.
10:13:09 And then secondly, the funds would only be City of Tampa
10:13:14 fund that are raised in that taxation district.
10:13:17 So there is an advantage to having these conversations with
10:13:20 Hillsborough County, with their willingness to share tax
10:13:25 And so county commissioners, much like yourself, want to be
10:13:29 sure that their decisions that affect taxpayers money are
10:13:33 And so I think what's going on is a conversation about a
10:13:38 framework about what's appropriate for spending and what's
10:13:40 not appropriate for spending.
10:13:42 There has not been a list that has been distilled about what
10:13:45 is appropriate and what is not appropriate.
10:13:48 Basically, what we have been talking about to this date is
10:13:53 the areas of that we wish to expand, the Heights, and the
10:13:57 reason for that, our development agreement in the Heights
10:13:59 allows them to bond and take a portion of that money for
10:14:04 public improvement.
10:14:05 There's about 20 years left on that.
10:14:07 A little less than 20 years, I believe.
10:14:11 You need 30 to go out and bond infrastructure.
10:14:13 And that's not a particularly difficult one to negotiate
10:14:16 because it generates zero dollars.
10:14:19 And with zero dollars there's nothing to fight about.
10:14:22 Again, West Tampa, with the county, it's not a very
10:14:25 controversial thing because we would be starting a new base.
10:14:28 There's no dollars to wrestle about.
10:14:31 The issue is downtown.
10:14:32 >>LISA MONTELIONE: There is potential for dollars.
10:14:37 I mean, I'm sure the city, our former CFO and now is over at
10:14:43 the county, is looking forward to when there will be revenue
10:14:47 from that CRA.
10:14:49 So not to be controversial, because there's not a lot of
10:14:55 revenue now, they are going to be looking at the 30-year
10:14:58 time line, what our plans are for that area.
10:15:00 We heard, what, last week and the week before from Jerome
10:15:04 Ryan over at the Housing Authority, and what the plans are,
10:15:08 or some of the plans for the area.
10:15:11 So they are not just saying, oh, there's not going to be any
10:15:15 revenue right now.
10:15:16 >>BOB McDONAUGH: I'll give you the example of the Channel
10:15:19 District which has several billion dollars of property and
10:15:21 generates $3 million in income.
10:15:23 And that's seven or eight years old.
10:15:25 And so the horizons are long before we start seeing
10:15:29 significant amounts of money.
10:15:31 I did not mean to say that they don't care, but they
10:15:34 recognize that the establishing of a CRA is a very long-term
10:15:39 process to p reap the benefits.
10:15:42 And it's not just in dollars.
10:15:46 Again, it's to bring opportunity to some of these areas.
10:15:48 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well, if that's the case then, I mean, I
10:15:51 have brought up CRA boundary in the area between Sulphur
10:15:55 Springs and the University of area, the unincorporated area,
10:16:02 formerly known as suitcase city, and that was, at least by
10:16:07 the administration, not well received.
10:16:09 But it's noncontroversial because there's no revenue
10:16:14 generated for a very, very long time, what's the big deal?
10:16:18 >> No incremental revenue.
10:16:20 In the meanwhile, there are tax dollars being generated
10:16:22 which at the current time we don't want to take out of the
10:16:25 general fund.
10:16:26 Again, we have --
10:16:28 >> But it's the incremental that would be taken out of the
10:16:31 general fund, not base.
10:16:32 >> Correct.
10:16:36 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right, Mr. Cohen.
10:16:37 And then I want to get back to Mrs. Capin with a question.
10:16:40 >>HARRY COHEN: I have a very brief question just to follow
10:16:42 up on what you have been talking about.
10:16:44 When you are talking about the rules, and regarding the
10:16:47 renegotiation, the boundaries.
10:16:53 If you have CRA districts that are contiguous to one
10:16:57 another, and they were husbandly maybe all to be turned into
10:17:02 one, would that under the law many the entire CRA would be
10:17:10 >>SAL TERRITO: Legal department.
10:17:11 I know what you are saying N.effect if you have two
10:17:13 contiguous properties, because you are creating a new area.
10:17:18 And you would be creating a new area or expanding.
10:17:24 We had an area designated.
10:17:27 When we expanded the area in -- I'm sorry, in 1983 and then
10:17:31 we expanded the area in 1988, we had a second level of
10:17:36 funding that we had to start.
10:17:37 We had two separate trust funds downtown.
10:17:39 We had one CRA and two separate trust funds because you had
10:17:42 to reset a new area that was added.
10:17:45 If bee add a new area by combining two, we are basically
10:17:49 resetting the baseline at that point forward.
10:17:52 You are better off doing a separate.
10:17:55 And it's going to be a bookkeeping problem.
10:17:59 If you put them together, you have to start from scratch.
10:18:02 Because you are basically creating a new area.
10:18:03 >> That was my only question.
10:18:05 >> Let me ask you a question.
10:18:09 When you first made the motion to put this agenda on for a
10:18:13 workshop, is this the direction you saw it going?
10:18:17 >>YVONNE CAPIN: The direction was to inform, definitely
10:18:21 informing this public, informing the stakeholders, the
10:18:24 position that we are in, what our obligations are.
10:18:29 It's very important.
10:18:30 But also the intent was rather we renew, don't renew.
10:18:35 I think it is important to hear from the public and let them
10:18:43 tell us what they believe we should be doing, should we
10:18:47 renew this with the county, and how those moneys should be
10:18:50 >>FRANK REDDICK: Anyone else want to speak before we go to
10:18:55 the public?
10:18:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'll reserve for later.
10:18:59 >>FRANK REDDICK: Anyone to speak on this item, come
10:19:02 forward, state your name and address and you have three
10:19:05 minutes to speak on item number 5.
10:19:06 >>LINDA SAUL-SENA: My name is Linda Saul-Sena, and I live
10:19:15 at 157 Biscayne.
10:19:16 I'm here this morning as the chairman of the board of the
10:19:18 Tampa Theatre.
10:19:23 The Tampa theater is a wonderful, iconic symbol of our
10:19:27 It is a city-owned asset with private not for profit board
10:19:33 that raises money for the activities and programs of the
10:19:37 We are so proud of our facility.
10:19:40 And we are pleased to be partners with the city in this
10:19:44 I dare say it is one of the things when people think of
10:19:48 Tampa, that's one of the images that they conjure right up
10:19:51 there with the minarets.
10:19:53 And I'm here today because we are not getting any younger.
10:19:56 The good news is that we have a very energetic board and we
10:19:59 are raising money and we are keeping things up.
10:20:01 But we have old wiring and old roof, an old facility.
10:20:06 It's beautiful.
10:20:07 It's fabulous.
10:20:08 But it is old.
10:20:09 And even as we as a board attempt to raise money to keep the
10:20:13 capital -- to keep the building up, we need you all as our
10:20:19 landlords to work in partisanship with us.
10:20:21 And moving forward, as you consider this money, I want you
10:20:28 to consider the that's right.
10:20:30 You all are being much more forthright and far thinking than
10:20:33 previous CRA boards.
10:20:34 I know because I sat there for 20 years.
10:20:36 I was always trying to get my colleagues to think in terms
10:20:38 of the CRA, having a great deal of power and discretion
10:20:43 about how the money is reinvested in each of these areas to
10:20:46 benefit economic development, because that's what the money
10:20:49 is supposed to be for.
10:20:50 You take an area that suffers blight and figure out how do
10:20:55 we most effectively generate new opportunities for this area
10:20:59 using the CRA funds?
10:21:01 Well, downtown for 20 years, or 30 years, our hands were
10:21:05 tied behind our backs because the money was all committed to
10:21:08 the convention center, which is a great investment.
10:21:10 But now there's a new opportunity.
10:21:12 And I'm very surprised candidly that the Tampa downtown
10:21:17 partisanship isn't here this morning, because as the group
10:21:21 that speaks collectively for downtown, business community, I
10:21:24 feel that if they were here, they would be talking to you
10:21:27 about urban design and reinvestment in the quality of the
10:21:31 infrastructure downtown.
10:21:33 But I'm here for the Tampa Theatre today saying that our
10:21:37 cultural facilities are city-owned resources downtown,
10:21:42 generate a lot of activity, generate interest for our
10:21:46 visitors as well as our residents.
10:21:47 And I want you as you move ahead to seriously consider our
10:21:51 needs moving forward.
10:21:52 Thank you.
10:21:52 >> Good morning.
10:21:59 My name is Charles Britton, and I live at 3409 Palmira
10:22:07 Avenue in Tampa and I want to start off by saying I have
10:22:09 been a member of the Tampa Theatre board since 1998.
10:22:12 We have enjoyed a great relationship with the city.
10:22:14 We want to thank you for all that you have done for the
10:22:16 theater through the years.
10:22:21 We have city owned cultural assets that are aging.
10:22:25 And those of you that are homeowners know that the minute
10:22:28 you close on your house, you better start saving for a new
10:22:32 roof and replace the air conditioner and all the other items
10:22:36 that go with the joy of home ownership.
10:22:39 These assets are aging.
10:22:41 They are reaching the point that certain things need to be
10:22:47 In the case of the Tampa Theatre, it's 88 years old.
10:22:50 It has items that should have been replaced prior to World
10:22:52 War II.
10:22:55 It desperately needs replacing.
10:22:57 And I struggle with taking this money that is dedicated to
10:23:02 this district and siphoning it off and not taking care of
10:23:07 the existing assets.
10:23:09 I think that's very critical.
10:23:11 I think if you have landlords that own properties in town,
10:23:15 that didn't take care of them, that you would have code
10:23:18 enforcement going out there and citing them.
10:23:21 And to me, this is a very similar situation.
10:23:25 I'm here merely to ask that you consider the needs of these
10:23:30 institutions, their aging infrastructure, and to consider
10:23:37 setting aside perhaps some of this money to help them take
10:23:41 care of their needs.
10:23:42 Thank you.
10:23:42 >> My name is Loren Shepherd, the chief operating officer at
10:23:52 the Straz Center.
10:23:53 I reside at 12405 pathway court, Riverview, Florida.
10:23:57 But with the kind of hours I keep, I might as well be a city
10:24:03 [ Laughter ]
10:24:03 I'm very pleased to be in front of you this motorcycle.
10:24:05 And I want to thank you for your leadership and your hard
10:24:08 work in discovering this particular area.
10:24:11 It's been an education for me just to listen.
10:24:14 Got a lot of questions.
10:24:16 Looking back over the past 3030th years, we can see the
10:24:20 magnificent difference that these city owned cultural
10:24:23 facilities have made, not only to our quality of life in our
10:24:26 community vitality but also the impact they make on our
10:24:29 economy, our business.
10:24:31 Tourism and local education -- and I want to add attracting
10:24:35 new businesses frequently through many years of association
10:24:39 with the Committee of 100, and its various reiterations that
10:24:45 always seems to be a question of what the cultural
10:24:47 experience is going to be, if I move my company to this
10:24:52 Take the Straz Center, for instance, at 27 years, 335 that
10:24:56 you square foot aging facility remains the largest cultural
10:24:59 institution in the State of Florida.
10:25:01 We serve over 500 Tampa residents and visitors all year,
10:25:06 bringing about 100 million year of economic impact to the
10:25:10 local economy, and we also partisan with 30 local schools
10:25:13 and community agencies to enhance the K-12 education for
10:25:18 over 50 that you students a year.
10:25:21 The nonprofits that run the city cultural facility are led
10:25:24 by the best in their collective industries.
10:25:26 And these visionaries work constant lip in partisanship to
10:25:30 make Tampa the best Performing Arts Center, zoo, aquarium,
10:25:35 children's museum, Museum of Art, and on and on.
10:25:38 Today, as you review your priorities and la to the future,
10:25:41 we want to urge you to continue your support and
10:25:44 participation with the city-owned cultural facilities.
10:25:47 We want to work with you to develop a plan for long-term
10:25:51 sustainability of our aging facilities, so that they will
10:25:56 remain attractive, impressive, and impactful throughout many
10:26:00 more generations of service.
10:26:04 We can and do raise a great deal of known operate and
10:26:07 program these facilities, and we can also raise and have
10:26:12 raised capital dollars needed to help keep them in peak
10:26:18 condition but we can't raise all that's needed to care for
10:26:21 and advance these facilities without the involvement of our
10:26:23 public partners.
10:26:24 So we are asking that you call for a conversation, a
10:26:27 process, and a plan to work with us just to keep these
10:26:31 facilities from crumbling, but also to keep them as Tampa's
10:26:35 beacon to the nation and the world.
10:26:37 Thank you very much.
10:26:39 Good morning.
10:26:45 My name is Mark Haney, at the aquarium, and we are a
10:26:51 nonprofit located in Channelside.
10:26:54 We are just outside the downtown CRA, so we are part of the
10:26:58 Channelside CRA.
10:26:59 And I'm here today to talk a little about the cultural
10:27:03 facilities that we all have and all enjoy.
10:27:06 I moved here from Miami five years ago.
10:27:08 And I absolutely fell in love with Tampa.
10:27:10 I will never live anywhere else.
10:27:11 This is home.
10:27:12 And part of the reason that I love this community so much is
10:27:17 because of the great cultural facilities that we have.
10:27:20 The Florida Aquarium brings in almost 700,000 visitors a
10:27:24 We have over 10 that you member household.
10:27:26 We spend over -- almost 100,000 kids a year for our school
10:27:31 We educate kids about the environment, about marine science.
10:27:36 We are surrounded by water.
10:27:37 Some of these kids live in communities that they don't have
10:27:40 access to the waters.
10:27:41 They don't have access to even that kind of education.
10:27:44 And we are very proud that we can bring that kind of
10:27:49 The city owns our building.
10:27:50 We are a city-owned non-profit.
10:27:53 And we are here today to ask you to reinvest back into the
10:27:58 city's assets.
10:28:00 If Tampa is -- it's an amazing place right now.
10:28:03 Think how amazing it would be with reinvestment to all of
10:28:08 these assets like the Tampa Theatre, Straz, Lowry, Museum of
10:28:11 Art, all of those facilities, if we can make them the best
10:28:14 that they can be, how amazing would Tampa be?
10:28:18 Thank you.
10:28:18 >> My name is Craig Pugh, Executive Director, CEO of Lowry
10:28:29 Park Zoo and I really appreciate that you are providing the
10:28:31 opportunity to listen to community suggestions this morning.
10:28:34 As you know, the zoo is operated by the Lowry Park Zoo
10:28:37 logical society on land owned by the City of Tampa.
10:28:41 The zoo began downtown, and in the 1950s moved out to
10:28:46 Lowry Park to give the animals more space.
10:28:48 Ands takes zoo has grown over the last 25 years so has the
10:28:52 number of jobs.
10:28:53 More than 30% of the more than 350 men and women now
10:28:56 employed at the zoo live in that immediate community.
10:28:58 Well, today the zoo isn't even in the downtown CRA.
10:29:02 So why am I here today?
10:29:04 Because I do want to join the other city-owned cultural
10:29:07 facilities to help to solve the perplexing problems that we
10:29:12 really all share, and that is addressing our capital needs
10:29:15 and keeping the communities we serve economically strong,
10:29:19 and environmentally healthy.
10:29:21 Please call on us at the zoo to help the CRA to explore
10:29:25 solutions, explore how other cities both here in Florida and
10:29:28 nationwide fund their similar municipally owned assets.
10:29:33 We know it's a difficult issue and we encourage the CRA to
10:29:36 consider tax increment financing to promote both public and
10:29:39 private investment in Tampa's cultural facilities from your
10:29:45 leadership here this morning.
10:29:46 Thank you.
10:29:46 >> Good morning.
10:29:52 I'm Candy Olson, your school board member.
10:29:55 And I live at 610 south Rome Avenue.
10:29:58 I'm not going to repeat all the wonderful things that our
10:30:01 cultural facilities.
10:30:02 I think you all are keenly aware of.
10:30:04 That but I would like to share with you an experience I have
10:30:06 had in my 19-plus years on the school board.
10:30:09 We have hundreds of buildings.
10:30:11 And for many years, we didn't maintain them as well as we
10:30:14 should have.
10:30:15 We didn't have the money.
10:30:17 When we finally confronted the maintenance that was
10:30:21 necessary, it wasn't pretty.
10:30:23 It was very disruptive and it was much more costly than it
10:30:27 needed to be.
10:30:28 So I would just ask you to think about the fact that there
10:30:31 is a cost to maintaining these wonderful assets that we
10:30:35 There's also a cost to not maintaining them.
10:30:38 Either they fall down, or they are very much more costly to
10:30:42 fix than they needed to be.
10:30:44 And so I would urge you to think about maintaining things in
10:30:49 a friendly fashion as is possible.
10:30:53 Thank you.
10:30:53 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
10:30:54 If you plan on speaking, please line up so we get a feel of
10:30:57 how many people will be speaking and how much time we have
10:30:59 got remaining on this.
10:31:00 So if you are going to speak, I ask you to please line up on
10:31:04 the wall so we have a feel of how many people goring speak.
10:31:07 Yes, sir.
10:31:07 >> My name is Jeff Tucker.
10:31:12 I am currently vice chairman of the Tampa Museum of Art
10:31:15 board and a former chairman thereof.
10:31:18 I just want to speak about the heightened interest that all
10:31:22 of our cultural institutions have on this subject.
10:31:25 To sort of give you a 30,000-foot look at what we face.
10:31:30 Our institution is young compared to some of the others that
10:31:34 have spoken in our facility, certainly.
10:31:37 However, as someone pointed out, these are city assets that
10:31:40 are important to all of us and to the quality of our life.
10:31:43 For four years, I was vice chairman of the flap state arts
10:31:47 council appointed by two governors, and during those four
10:31:50 years, lots of funding grants were considered by our board
10:31:57 at the state level from groups like these and groups in
10:32:01 other cities across Florida.
10:32:02 Over the four years that I was vice chairman, 83% of the
10:32:05 funds were private.
10:32:08 All the trust fund moneys that used to be items in the state
10:32:11 budget, institution budget, is gone.
10:32:13 And, therefore, there is heightened interest by all of these
10:32:17 organizations, and by all of the boards of them, because we
10:32:20 have a responsibility as advocates, for sure, as board
10:32:24 members, to foresee the future and think about funding
10:32:28 And also we have a fiduciary responsibility directly tied to
10:32:31 the revenue, and to financial support of those institutions.
10:32:37 I have two questions to leave you about with you I wanted to
10:32:40 ask them so it doesn't chop up my time.
10:32:47 Is the 2003 agreement was talked about earlier in your
10:32:50 discussion in perpetuity, or does it sunset at some time?
10:32:54 For instance, at the end of 2015 when the bonds are mature?
10:32:57 That's one question.
10:32:59 And second, almost most important, I believe, to some of us
10:33:03 would be how priorities might be set as to the use of funds
10:33:08 when those funds are available in late 2015?
10:33:11 And just wishing that of course we can be participants in
10:33:16 some conversation about the priority setting that would go
10:33:19 on before those are used.
10:33:21 Thank you so much.
10:33:21 >>FRANK REDDICK: Do you want to answer the first question?
10:33:24 >>SAL TERRITO: Yes.
10:33:25 The agreement itself covers many CRA areas.
10:33:29 And let me just give some background that may help with some
10:33:32 of the questions that are coming up today.
10:33:34 We have eight CRA areas with different time frames on them.
10:33:38 The only two that really are more urgent, if you want to use
10:33:42 that term, are the downtown, and the Ybor one.
10:33:45 The downtown one we say 2018 and the Ybor City 2015.
10:33:51 Most of the other CRAs extend out to 2029, 2034, 2036
10:33:57 So we have some time on those issues as well.
10:34:00 The agreement that's contemplated to expire on the last of
10:34:04 the expires, so the last one we have on here right now is
10:34:07 2036, and that would be for the Central Park CRA area.
10:34:11 That's when the agreement will basically expire.
10:34:14 And the CRA areas expire, expire in the sense that you can
10:34:18 no longer fund them, that would drop off the agreement and
10:34:21 no longer be part of that agreement, unless they are
10:34:23 extended, unless there's an agreement to extended time of
10:34:27 the duration on these particular items.
10:34:29 >> So Mr. Territo, the CliffsNotes to that is the interlocal
10:34:36 agreement, the triparty interlocal agreement that was
10:34:41 discussed earlier, is not in perpetuity but it would sunset
10:34:47 at the time the last CRA expires?
10:34:51 >> Correct.
10:34:51 >> So it stands until such time as all CRAs have reached
10:34:57 their expiration date?
10:35:02 >> And again the CRA is perpetual, the CRA area.
10:35:06 It's the funding ability that goes away.
10:35:09 So as each one funding time ends, that particular would drop
10:35:13 off, would no longer be applicable.
10:35:16 The last one would expire, I think I sewed, in -- and that's
10:35:20 when the agreement goes away unless it's negotiated
10:35:22 >> So the try-party interlocal agreement goes away
10:35:27 potentially in 2036, when the last funding expires, and is
10:35:33 only perpetuated by our renewal of the funding for each of
10:35:39 these CRAs.
10:35:40 >> Right.
10:35:41 Extras funding had a 60 year limitation, statutorily,
10:35:47 And the tri-party, I think what I heard you say before, the
10:35:51 tri-party is between the CRA, the City Council, and the
10:36:00 city -- not the administration, the council -- they are a
10:36:03 third party to the agreement.
10:36:04 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Right.
10:36:06 I like to say tri-party interlocal agreement to reinforce in
10:36:10 people's minds that it's not between the CRA and the county,
10:36:15 because that would only be two entities.
10:36:16 I want to drive home the fact that there are three entities
10:36:20 that all have to get along and negotiate.
10:36:25 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Economic development.
10:36:29 Just a point of clarification.
10:36:31 So someone who just tuned into the show did not get the
10:36:34 wrong impression, the city has given about $32 million of
10:36:38 financial support to the Straz Performing Arts Center over
10:36:42 the last ten years.
10:36:43 We pay bonds with somewhere between 8 and $10 million a year
10:36:46 at the aquarium, as well as giving financial support.
10:36:49 Each of the folks that have been up have received financial
10:36:52 support on an annual basis from the city.
10:36:55 Perhaps not as much as people would like or as much as is
10:36:58 necessary, but there is an annual stipend that each of these
10:37:02 organizations receives, and will receive in the future.
10:37:04 Again, it's part of the budgeting process.
10:37:06 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
10:37:12 >> Part of my question is the priority.
10:37:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: We set that priority.
10:37:26 >> Tom Hall, 5215 south Nichols street.
10:37:30 I'm former chairman of the Tampa downtown partnership and
10:37:32 currently chairman of the aquarium foundation, but I'm
10:37:35 really here as a private citizen to urge you to consider
10:37:40 taking part of these funds and building a series of parks in
10:37:45 downtown Tampa.
10:37:47 We are at a point in our history where we have the
10:37:50 opportunity to do that.
10:37:51 If we wait five or ten years, we probably won't have the
10:37:54 opportunity to do that.
10:37:55 It would give us a greening effect, and it would have
10:37:59 several other effects that would be on the development of
10:38:04 One is it will encourage high quality future residential
10:38:10 developments particularly by providing a place for kids.
10:38:12 We don't really have any kids parks, any sports parks where
10:38:16 kids can play, and yet we are attracting young people who
10:38:20 are potential parents.
10:38:21 It will create points of interest and beauty.
10:38:24 You probably have all been to Savannah, Georgia, a city
10:38:28 built around parks.
10:38:29 Places that encourage people to walk, places that encourage
10:38:32 people to stop, to shop, so it will encourage retail
10:38:37 And if we don't do it now, we probably won't be able to do
10:38:45 it ten years from now.
10:38:46 So I encourage you taking a section of that money -- and you
10:38:49 can spend $50 million, you can spend $60 million, whatever.
10:38:53 But if we can build eight or ten parks, it would help guide
10:38:56 the development of downtown Tampa in the right direction.
10:38:59 Thank you.
10:39:00 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
10:39:02 Anyone else wishing to speak at this time?
10:39:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Let me say this.
10:39:25 First of all, why are we here?
10:39:27 We are here because sometime back in the mid '70s there
10:39:32 was the city attorney named Andre Williams, and there was a
10:39:37 mayor named Bill Poe.
10:39:40 And if I recall what the rumors were -- and I didn't hear it
10:39:42 directly -- notice I said rumors -- there's only a couple of
10:39:48 individuals that are still alive, Mayor Poe and myself.
10:39:54 Mr. Williams went to see the mayor and said, we are going to
10:39:57 start the CRA, we are going to put it under the
10:40:00 And I understand that the mayor said, no, I want you to put
10:40:03 it under the City Council.
10:40:05 And that's how we are here today.
10:40:09 Now, we go back.
10:40:12 Why do we do this with the county?
10:40:14 Why was that done?
10:40:15 It wasn't done because I wanted to give it away.
10:40:17 Because I understand the administration, the county was
10:40:25 hesitant at that time to work out the details.
10:40:28 And in order to entice them, as I understand again, that's
10:40:32 how this agreement was worked out.
10:40:37 At the end of the day nothing happens unless there's money
10:40:40 And today, that's why we are here, because there's money
10:40:44 That's why we are having a conversation.
10:40:50 I can tell you that -- but why is the aquarium there?
10:40:55 It was done as an agreement that said there would be no
10:41:01 taxpayer money if there was 800,000 people that went through
10:41:04 the gate for two years in a row.
10:41:06 I think that's what it said.
10:41:07 I'm not sure.
10:41:08 Guess what happened.
10:41:13 They hit that goal.
10:41:14 Then the public had to become the bond holder and pay for
10:41:17 the debt.
10:41:17 That's how that came about.
10:41:19 I may not be 100% correct, but that was the theory behind
10:41:24 So why are we here?
10:41:28 Chairman of CRA said a stadium.
10:41:30 He didn't say what kind of a stadium.
10:41:34 He was very nice the way he brought it up.
10:41:37 You know, I read the paper the other day, and our good
10:41:40 friend Mr. Bob McDonaugh said the council should put the
10:41:44 horse before the cart.
10:41:47 And notice I said my good friend.
10:41:49 And I was nice.
10:41:54 I said look, finally woke up.
10:41:56 But council has never been talking about a stadium.
10:41:58 We have never talked to the mayor in St. Pete about Tampa a
10:42:03 We never talked to the owners of the baseball team across
10:42:05 the bay about a stadium.
10:42:09 We have never done anything.
10:42:10 So all this is rumor and speculation that has been created
10:42:13 in an era of, whoa, what's happening here?
10:42:17 We can't worry about what happens somewhere else.
10:42:21 Worry about your own house.
10:42:22 I don't worry about St. Pete.
10:42:24 I hope they do well.
10:42:25 I hope they work out their problems.
10:42:27 That's their problem, not mine.
10:42:29 Whether they stay or go that's up to them, not me.
10:42:33 I already have a record on stadiums.
10:42:38 You decide what my record is.
10:42:42 But, you know, when this money becomes available, it's not
10:42:45 going to be 100 million like they say, because there's an
10:42:51 And who knows what the revenue is going to be created
10:42:54 because it's based on taxation and how the values going up
10:42:59 and down, things of that nature.
10:43:01 Who knows if it's 20 million or 10 million or maybe even 100
10:43:05 million depending on what happens? We can't forecast 20
10:43:08 years from now.
10:43:09 I can tell you this.
10:43:10 All the growth that I have seen by individuals that are much
10:43:14 smarter than I say that this county is G going to grow by
10:43:18 about 450,000 people in the next 20, 25 years.
10:43:22 I would say 50% of that is going to happen right here in the
10:43:25 City of Tampa.
10:43:27 So you better be prepared.
10:43:30 You better be prepared for infrastructure, because if you
10:43:35 don't have the water, it they ain't coming.
10:43:37 If you the sewer capacity, you can't come, you can't build.
10:43:41 You better have the infrastructure.
10:43:43 And all of you that I have heard have said the truth.
10:43:47 All of you need help.
10:43:49 Every single one of you.
10:43:51 And I understand that.
10:43:54 Let's go back in history.
10:43:55 Just close your eyes and go back 25, 30 years.
10:43:59 Has there been some changes in downtown?
10:44:01 Has there been some changes in Tampa?
10:44:04 Go to Channelside.
10:44:06 Where is that Coca-Cola plant?
10:44:10 Where is the citrus nitrate plant at? Where is all that --
10:44:17 our good friend that live on Davis Islands at.
10:44:20 The biggest building was the Floridan hotel.
10:44:25 Ashley street.
10:44:27 Was it even Ashley street?
10:44:31 Wilson and company.
10:44:32 Swift and company.
10:44:33 Jackson Gray.
10:44:35 What happened to them?
10:44:37 Got a beautiful park there now.
10:44:41 Got a Riverwalk about ready to be completed and expanded.
10:44:45 You have got Tampa Heights coming alive, like it should
10:44:49 have, and will have.
10:44:52 We have people living downtown.
10:44:54 Listen, not too many years ago I used to come to work.
10:44:58 There was no traffic getting here.
10:45:00 Drive right in.
10:45:02 Leave at 3:00, 4:00, 5:00, 6:00, you leave.
10:45:05 There was no traffic.
10:45:06 Try to leave now and see what happens.
10:45:09 Try to go to the area of Channelside where there's a
10:45:13 convention in town, an event, at the St. Pete Times Forum.
10:45:22 See what happens.
10:45:24 You bet are walk because you can't drive.
10:45:28 And they want a stadium?
10:45:31 I don't know who wants a stadium.
10:45:34 I think it's created by Mr. and Mrs. Unknown.
10:45:40 But these things, every one of these, to make this city
10:45:43 better, you know, just look at St. Pete.
10:45:47 Look at Sarasota.
10:45:49 Look at the waterfront.
10:45:50 Look at any city that's got waterfront.
10:45:58 The park still hasn't been cheated.
10:46:01 Tall boat docks we had on Bayshore Boulevard like 36, 37,
10:46:05 ain't one left.
10:46:06 We used to have -- notice I said used to have because I
10:46:09 don't know if we still have -- a list of 250 to 300
10:46:12 individuals that wanted to Moore their boats, on a list to
10:46:17 get in.
10:46:19 Nothing has been done.
10:46:22 That's 7.50 a foot.
10:46:26 You can pay anything you want with that kind of money.
10:46:28 You need to have a very viable area.
10:46:33 Nothing has been done.
10:46:34 We built some for the convention center.
10:46:39 Guess what.
10:46:39 Oh, we can't put electricity.
10:46:41 Oh, we can't put water there.
10:46:44 That was a mistake.
10:46:46 You have to start thinking progressive just like you do in
10:46:48 your area.
10:46:50 You know, you go into Tampa Theatre, you go into the
10:46:55 aquarium, you go into the Straz Center, those are places
10:46:59 that have livability.
10:47:00 You see lights there.
10:47:01 People are moving in and out.
10:47:02 You think they are giving away something for free.
10:47:06 Because it's a wonderful place to be at.
10:47:09 First-class, first-class all of them.
10:47:13 And they need help.
10:47:15 But keep in mind, in the last two years, we had to borrow
10:47:20 $15 million of the taxpayers fund -- that's what I call
10:47:24 it -- to make the budget balance.
10:47:27 Last year was 7.5 million.
10:47:30 So, yeah, there might be money coming.
10:47:34 Let's find out where it's at.
10:47:36 Let's find out what's going to happen.
10:47:38 Let's find out how much help we can do, if any.
10:47:41 And I'm willing to listen.
10:47:44 I'm sure the colleagues on the CRA here are willing to
10:47:47 But the livability of this city is everywhere, because what
10:47:58 happens in the north reflect something on the west, what
10:48:01 happens in the east, reflects something in the west.
10:48:05 And this individual stated earlier came up to me is one of
10:48:08 the better cities in the whole United States.
10:48:11 Today we can talk about, we can walk out.
10:48:14 Yeah, we had a little rain yesterday.
10:48:15 Don't slip and slide all over the road like they do in the
10:48:19 Carolinas and up north somewhere.
10:48:20 You are going to get more people coming in because of bad
10:48:23 weather up north.
10:48:29 The growth of this state is unbelievable.
10:48:31 Because the population shifted from the north back to the
10:48:36 The opportunity to be here, and you have to be prepared.
10:48:40 And we have to make this a better place to live.
10:48:43 We should start looking at a master plan for the whole area
10:48:49 to see what livability we can do, availability, make a
10:48:53 waterfront, make a convention center even better where you
10:48:56 can move from one spot, of the convention center to a
10:48:59 connecting hotel without getting the summer rain or the
10:49:06 And you learned that from the Republican convention when
10:49:08 they did those things temporarily.
10:49:10 You don't have to worry about hurricanes or bad weather,
10:49:15 And these things have to be done.
10:49:19 And just look at the convention center, over 25 years old, I
10:49:22 believe, and walk in the.
10:49:26 You think you look in a mirror when you walk down the floor.
10:49:30 Everything shines like it was brand new, just lake your
10:49:32 building shines.
10:49:35 And you should be commended for what you have done.
10:49:39 But this didn't happen overnight by itself.
10:49:44 And the fought is bright.
10:49:46 But it's going to take some time to get to where you want to
10:49:52 It's not dark.
10:49:53 There's light at the end of the tunnel.
10:49:55 But it's taking baby steps to get there.
10:49:59 Money is a valuable thing.
10:50:01 And me, I like to keep it and then build something.
10:50:05 I don't finance anything.
10:50:08 If I can't bay it, I don't buy it.
10:50:11 If I can't pay for it within 30 days, I don't buy it at all.
10:50:15 And these what's wrong with America.
10:50:17 Everybody is in debt.
10:50:20 And we can't go that way much longer.
10:50:22 I'm not trying to lecture you.
10:50:24 I'm just trying to say, let's get together, all of us, the
10:50:28 whole downtown area.
10:50:29 Look at downtown.
10:50:33 There was no one living here 15 years ago.
10:50:35 I guarantee you that all these buildings, condos and so
10:50:39 forth, 95 to 100%, if you will every one of them.
10:50:46 So we are slowly getting back where we should be, and
10:50:49 there's some more high-rises coming up.
10:50:51 So we are going to have to do what was said earlier, we have
10:50:54 to find parks and land and things of that nature.
10:50:58 We have done it on a small scale.
10:50:59 But it's going to get better.
10:51:01 And, Mr. Chairman, thank you for this time.
10:51:04 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you, Mr. Chair -- he's also Mr.
10:51:18 All right.
10:51:18 Before we go to Mrs. Capin, any final comments from anyone
10:51:23 before we go to Mrs. Capin to close out?
10:51:25 >>HARRY COHEN: Thank you very much.
10:51:29 First of all, I think that it is timely that we start
10:51:34 getting into these discussions, because October of 2015 will
10:51:37 be upon us before we know it.
10:51:39 And anything that helps the public understand how these fund
10:51:43 are generated and how they move through our hands is
10:51:48 helpful, and it sets us up for a good public conversation
10:51:52 with lots of public input.
10:51:55 I just want to say for myself that I hear the message of the
10:52:00 cultural institutions that are in fact city-owned loud and
10:52:04 I think the fact that we do appropriate money every year to
10:52:10 these institutions for the most part helps them with their
10:52:14 And what we are really hearing about today are the long-term
10:52:18 capital needs that need to be addressed.
10:52:20 And there's no question that these are things that we have
10:52:24 top place a priority on as we move into the future.
10:52:28 They are not the only things, but they are things that
10:52:31 empirical data shows brings tourists and hotel nights and
10:52:35 economic vibrancy to our community.
10:52:39 And to me any decision we have to investment, taxpayer fund,
10:52:47 those decisions have to be made based on solid evidence that
10:52:50 those are good investments, and we have two years ahead of
10:52:54 us where we are going to have afternoon very public
10:52:56 conversation about that.
10:52:57 And I think all of us look forward to getting input, and
10:53:01 hearing what all the stakeholders have to say, to see what
10:53:04 actually some of the plans are going to look like.
10:53:07 Remember, we are talking very speculatively here.
10:53:11 I would say that Mr. Hall's point about parks, one of the
10:53:14 things that the Urban Land Institute told us when they came
10:53:17 here about two years ago was that it would be a good idea to
10:53:20 plant flowers on vacant properties in order to beautify the
10:53:26 There are so many ideas out there about things that we can
10:53:28 do to make our city move livable.
10:53:31 And to me what's so excite being this conversation is that
10:53:34 we are going to be talking about resources, and how to
10:53:37 allocate them, rather than as Mr. Miranda said, where to
10:53:41 find the money to plug the gaps that we have.
10:53:43 So I look forward to it.
10:53:45 And I'm sure everyone else looks forward to it, too, because
10:53:48 ware talking about investing in our community.
10:53:50 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right, a comment, Mrs. Montelione.
10:53:55 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
10:53:59 I think it's also very timely and coincidental that we would
10:54:04 receive a draft of the annual activity report today.
10:54:09 So it's not in final form but the draft is public record as
10:54:14 it was delivered, transmitted to us today.
10:54:18 You can take a look at the status of our CRAs and the
10:54:24 activities within the CRAs and this draft report.
10:54:32 We, as City Council, we recently decided to have -- thank
10:54:36 you, Mr. Cohen and others for bringing up the proactive
10:54:43 steps of discussing with our priorities were, and what it is
10:54:46 that we are looking for in the next budget cycle as we move
10:54:52 towards the summer.
10:54:55 And I think that it would be prudent upon us as CRA board
10:55:00 members, as we heard from today, to do a similar process
10:55:07 here in looking at what are our priorities, and clearly
10:55:13 communicating our priorities to the economic development
10:55:19 division staff and the CRA managers of those areas.
10:55:26 I often feel that we are on the receiving end of all these
10:55:29 wonderful things that are going on, as Mr. Miranda pointed
10:55:33 We have seen tremendous change in the CRA areas, and be I
10:55:38 just think that maybe we should follow as CRA board members
10:55:44 the pattern we set as council members to do the same thing
10:55:49 and set priorities, and fully discuss what those priorities
10:55:52 are with staff, so that going into the next budget cycle and
10:55:58 into the future, we become more proactive to what those
10:56:05 areas need and what we hear from our constituents in those
10:56:10 Although I don't have any CRA districts in my area, that I
10:56:14 represent on City Council, district 7, we all have
10:56:18 responsibility to the citizens of the entire city for the
10:56:22 taxpayer dollars that we spend.
10:56:24 So I don't know if we want to set a date now to come back
10:56:29 like we did with City Council and discuss those priorities,
10:56:33 but I would like to make that motion that --
10:56:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: I am going to ask you to hold off on the
10:56:41 motion because Councilman Capin is going to speak last.
10:56:46 So anything else?
10:56:47 All right.
10:56:48 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, chair.
10:56:50 One of the things that Mr. Miranda mentioned and one of the
10:56:53 things that we have to keep emphasizing to everyone is that
10:56:55 CRA is such an important part of the way that our city
10:57:00 I'm sure that in 1983 when we first did the legislation, we
10:57:05 had no idea how it would change the face of downtown.
10:57:09 There would not be a Channelside without a CRA.
10:57:12 There would not be, you know, some of our amenities that we
10:57:15 have now, Curtis Hixon park and some of the other buildings
10:57:18 that are going up if we did not have the CRA, Straz Center,
10:57:22 some of the other amenities that we have.
10:57:24 And the CRA dollars are always, always starts here at our
10:57:30 And that's one of the emphasis that I was making with Mr.
10:57:34 Territo in some of the discussions we had, was that our
10:57:36 ability and our power to change the face of the city, we
10:57:41 need to keep on making sure that we have that power and that
10:57:47 Secondly, I think that all the administrations that come
10:57:51 before have done a fairly good job, not always a great job
10:57:54 but a fairly good job of using CRA dollars to improve the
10:57:59 lives of the people here in the city.
10:58:00 When you have a CRA, those dollars affect that particular
10:58:04 So the discussion about parks previously, you know, we built
10:58:08 a lot of parks within our CRA areas.
10:58:11 One in particular is Washington street park in the
10:58:14 Channelside area which is a great urban experience for those
10:58:17 people that want to live in apartments or condos in that
10:58:21 Also, there's a linear park that's right there in terms
10:58:23 of -- I think building the complex there is part of that
10:58:29 whole project, but it is part of what we do at CRA that we
10:58:33 constantly talk to and deal with developers to make sure
10:58:37 that the experience that people that move here is going to
10:58:40 be an enjoyable one, and those amenities keep drawing more
10:58:44 and more people.
10:58:45 I think that, you know, whenever there's a snow storm in
10:58:49 Atlanta, I think that the number of hits that we get on our
10:58:52 Web site is probably quadrupled, and, you know, we feel for
10:58:57 those folks that have be to deal with that contained of
10:59:00 But we welcome them anytime they want to come on down here.
10:59:03 And the CRA, regardless of what we decide to do with our
10:59:06 dollars, is always in concert with what the city
10:59:09 administration wants to do.
10:59:11 We always have to negotiate with them.
10:59:13 They are a major player in terms of what we do on that.
10:59:16 So for us, it is always about trying to improve the lives of
10:59:19 the folks that are there.
10:59:20 And as a board member of the zoo, I wish we had some CRA
10:59:25 dollars to draw on.
10:59:27 I mean, Mr. Cohen was on the Straz Center board.
10:59:31 I'm on the Lowry Park Zoo board.
10:59:35 Takes very small margin that wave to deal with on a year to
10:59:39 year basis.
10:59:39 And some of the things that we need to fund aren't funded
10:59:44 until we get money in.
10:59:47 Like Mr. Miranda said, we can't spend money we don't have.
10:59:50 And typically it's always a year to year basis that we have
10:59:53 to do that.
10:59:54 So I just want everyone to remember that the administration,
10:59:58 and anybody that wants to deal in the downtown area in terms
11:00:01 of CRA dollars, still have to come through our CRA, and City
11:00:05 Council, before anything else is done.
11:00:09 So thank you, chair.
11:00:11 That's all I have.
11:00:12 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you.
11:00:14 Ms. Capin.
11:00:16 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
11:00:18 I'm going to start off, that some revelation came about the
11:00:24 meeting, that I was under the impression that the
11:00:29 administration negotiated because of our city charter, but
11:00:33 it isn't.
11:00:34 They are in negotiation were the county, because we approve
11:00:38 it every year.
11:00:40 So the CRA is giving back responsibility to the
11:00:45 So the administration and the county negotiate, and the
11:00:50 county says, okay, I like what you are bringing forth.
11:00:53 We are going to go ahead and continue the funding.
11:00:59 So that means the CRA, if we do not intend it the way the
11:01:05 county and the administration decided it's going to be
11:01:08 spent, then they won't bring forth the money.
11:01:14 It is a catch-22.
11:01:16 It is absolutely a catch-22.
11:01:19 Now, when we look at this, I appreciate the walk down memory
11:01:27 But what we are looking at is 20, 30 years ahead.
11:01:34 One of the numbers that are out there, the growth in Florida
11:01:37 is going to be in the middle of the state.
11:01:41 I-4 corridor is going to swell, in about 25, 30 years, I
11:01:46 think it's 17 million people in an area -- I saw a number.
11:01:52 The population of the state right now is 19 million.
11:01:57 We are the economic engine of the I-4 corridor.
11:01:59 We are the economic engine of Hillsborough County.
11:02:02 People may live in the county, but they come into the city
11:02:05 to work.
11:02:06 And for these amenities that are here in the city.
11:02:12 Our beautiful parks, our aquarium, our historic theater, our
11:02:22 So what we need to really look at is when it comes before us
11:02:29 on October 1, we need to really look at what we, the power
11:02:36 that the CRA is giving away, is not being part of that
11:02:40 negotiation, because when it's negotiated, and it has been
11:02:46 stated that the county, or former chairman of the county,
11:02:51 stated that if they agreed or like where this money is
11:02:57 going, then there's a deal.
11:03:01 So the deal has been made before the moneys ever come to
11:03:06 So this is excellent in that it sheds light, at least for
11:03:11 me, as to where the CRA stands.
11:03:15 It doesn't stand anywhere.
11:03:19 It has no -- I understand we can direct those dollars once
11:03:28 we have the dollars, but we don't negotiate for the dollars.
11:03:40 And, yes, you know, when it came up that the city provides a
11:03:45 stipend to these assets, the city owns these assets.
11:03:50 That would be absurd not to do that.
11:03:57 You know, the stadium was brought up, and really this came
11:04:00 about because of that, because -- and I was told by many
11:04:04 people in the administration, you are putting the cart
11:04:08 before the horse.
11:04:09 This is pretty much -- you know what's premature?
11:04:12 Talking about this money for a stadium.
11:04:14 That's what was premature.
11:04:16 And that's what brought this about.
11:04:17 Not that -- you know, Tampa is a baseball town, has a
11:04:23 fabulous baseball history.
11:04:27 Incredible baseball history as our chairman is so well aware
11:04:35 But we need to really look at how we move forward, and the
11:04:46 powers that this CRA board needs to keep in order to really
11:04:55 administrate these moneys.
11:04:57 It is not -- you know, three is a crowd.
11:05:04 So these asset investments, when we talk about it, it says,
11:05:11 oh, you know, there was many things brought up.
11:05:14 When you talk to the economic Development Corporation, and
11:05:19 corporations are looking to move into our city, they have a
11:05:22 list of about ten items that they are looking for in a city.
11:05:29 They want to know the quality of the life of that city --
11:05:33 the culture, not culture -- what is the value of the city?
11:05:41 They want to know, what foreign languages do we teach in our
11:05:45 public schools?
11:05:48 These are some of the items.
11:05:51 This attracts new business.
11:05:52 It is economic development.
11:05:54 It is economic development.
11:05:59 I don't agree that this is the cart before the horse.
11:06:04 It actually would be an error not to start talking about
11:06:08 It's huge.
11:06:09 And I'm so thankful to my colleagues on the CRA that agreed
11:06:15 to this workshop, and saw that there is a need for public
11:06:27 And I agree that we should not stop with this workshop, that
11:06:30 we should keep as we have with the budget, to bring back and
11:06:41 look at this further, and actually study the mechanics,
11:06:48 full, of how this all is comes to fruition.
11:06:57 And one of the things that really, really caught my
11:07:08 attention is how that negotiation is done and where it leads
11:07:11 And than actually, the way it stands now, what is the
11:07:18 purpose of the CRA?
11:07:19 What are we here for?
11:07:24 And we need to look at that very, very seriously.
11:07:29 Thank you for the time.
11:07:30 Thank you for all of the public and the interest groups and
11:07:34 the stakeholders coming in their time, the volunteers, the
11:07:41 board members that were here to come and talk to us about
11:07:43 this, and found interest in this.
11:07:47 And I thank my colleagues for all the comments that came
11:07:51 >>FRANK REDDICK: We want to thank you for putting this item
11:07:54 on the agenda, and I am going to go back to Mrs. Montelione,
11:07:57 and entertain your motion.
11:07:58 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
11:08:00 I had a chance to look at our calendar, and considering when
11:08:03 we are going to come back with the recommendations for the
11:08:09 City Council for that budget, perhaps it would be wise of us
11:08:13 to look at the CRA meeting of May 8th to discuss the
11:08:23 priorities that each of us have for the CRA areas that we
11:08:31 have currently.
11:08:34 I'm not suggesting any future ones, but the CRA and what
11:08:42 dollars we have available, where they are being spent now,
11:08:46 and if you want to continue in that direction, or if there
11:08:50 are other operators we would like to pursue.
11:08:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: Let me ask Mr. McDonaugh --
11:08:57 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Just as a remainder.
11:08:59 The way that we have been processing it in the past is that
11:09:04 there are CACs in each of the neighborhoods, and they are
11:09:07 x-rayed of people that are appointed by councils who are
11:09:10 responsible for going out in the neighborhoods and finding
11:09:13 out exactly what are the priorities of people in those
11:09:16 particular districts feel are important?
11:09:18 And so I would be cautious that it is a cooperative venture
11:09:24 between the CRA board and the community groups who spend
11:09:29 lots of time and effort to listen -- solicit the input of
11:09:33 people in their districts to make sure that their budgets
11:09:36 that are then generated and brought to the CRA board are
11:09:39 reflective of what people in those districts are looking
11:09:42 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I understand, Mr. McDonaugh.
11:09:44 We meat every year with the community advisory committee for
11:09:48 each of those CRAs.
11:09:50 We have them here every month.
11:09:52 One of them on a rotating basis every month to give the
11:09:56 And I think by setting it for May, that will give us a few
11:10:00 months for each of us to meet individually with them to
11:10:03 discuss, you know, what their board has found, and developed
11:10:17 our wish with their direction.
11:10:18 >>FRANK REDDICK: Let me make sure and get this clear.
11:10:22 Each one of those CRAs in the community, that have those
11:10:28 advisory boards, they submit their budget for items that
11:10:31 they have met -- that's what I did when I was on East Tampa.
11:10:37 >> Yes, sir.
11:10:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: We get that information now.
11:10:40 Because I don't want to -- to dilute none of those people's
11:10:45 authority that is community oriented citizens who are
11:10:48 volunteers, who are sitting in the advisory committees, and
11:10:53 I don't think -- they make the decision what's good for the
11:10:59 They send us that information.
11:11:01 We look at it.
11:11:02 We review it to the budget process, and we vote on it.
11:11:06 And I don't want to see us take that away from them.
11:11:11 If there are some major concerns, then they can present
11:11:14 those concerns to us.
11:11:15 But I think, are we looking at all CRAs?
11:11:21 Because the focus is on the Channelside downtown.
11:11:24 So are we going to stick on this one or to all of them?
11:11:32 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I think that's the suggestion, because
11:11:34 although the advisory committees submit directly to the
11:11:38 managers of each of those areas, their concerns and their
11:11:43 budget priorities, the managers of the areas don't vote on
11:11:48 what the budget is.
11:11:49 So I think that by our discussing their priorities directly
11:11:55 with the citizens advisory committee, then we are giving
11:12:02 power to their voice.
11:12:06 Do you understand where I am going?
11:12:09 Mr. Suarez is shaking his head.
11:12:16 I just want to know if I'm being clear, or if I need to
11:12:23 bring clarity.
11:12:29 You know, I think that is another -- I think that is another
11:12:38 The main conversation to me is what is the role of the CRA,
11:12:44 and how do we fix it, if it is not broken.
11:12:50 That's one.
11:12:51 The other is this whole conversation was about the bond
11:12:55 payoff on 2015.
11:12:57 Many things came to light because of it.
11:12:59 And I understand that that's the motion.
11:13:03 So I would like to continue along the vein of its opened up
11:13:12 the conversation to -- I think it's very important for us to
11:13:17 really drill down into the CRA, this board, and its powers.
11:13:30 Before we even talk about anything else.
11:13:32 Because right now, the way it stands, we can put out our
11:13:44 priorities, but for the public, everyone can hear.
11:13:47 This is what some of the people felt we should spend the
11:13:50 moneys on.
11:13:53 But we really -- in my sometimes, and if you want I'll make
11:13:58 it a separate motion to study that -- to really drill down
11:14:01 into the CRA, and our ability to influence the conversation
11:14:18 coming forth.
11:14:18 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I do think that's a separate motion.
11:14:23 >>SAL TERRITO: Let me clarify.
11:14:28 The county has no say in how you spend your CRA money,
11:14:32 What's happening right now is the negotiations to extend the
11:14:37 downtown CRA is where the county's role gets involved,
11:14:40 because the assumption is the county will not agree to
11:14:46 extend the downtown CRA unless they have some say in how
11:14:48 that money is spent.
11:14:49 That's the only instance in where the county has a say in
11:14:52 how you spend your money.
11:14:53 That money is spent by you, CRA board, and it's totally
11:14:56 under your control.
11:14:57 You get recommendations for the administration to get
11:15:00 recommendations from the staff, but it is your decision on
11:15:04 how that money is spent.
11:15:05 The county has no role in that money.
11:15:07 They are compelled by statute to put that money in that
11:15:11 trust fund.
11:15:12 They have no choice.
11:15:13 Now with negotiations -- I want to clarify for the public as
11:15:17 well, the only role the public has is to try to change the
11:15:21 CRA duration or boundaries are, and that's what's happening
11:15:24 with the downtown, the discussion going on, that we would
11:15:29 like to extend the downtown and the county may or may not
11:15:32 say we agree to the project or the scope of what it is you
11:15:34 want to do.
11:15:35 They have no say otherwise in how you spend your money.
11:15:38 I want to clarify that.
11:15:40 Primarily for the public's benefit.
11:15:41 >> Thank you.
11:15:45 You just made my point, because they have a say into how --
11:15:50 if they like the project or not.
11:15:54 If they are going to go ahead and kick in the county
11:16:01 So once it comes to us we can change it, and say we don't
11:16:04 want to do this project?
11:16:08 >>SAL TERRITO: (Off microphone) Unless they say otherwise.
11:16:11 Downtown, yes, because right now the downtown expires in a
11:16:15 few years.
11:16:16 And if you want to extend that time, the county has to agree
11:16:20 with the interlocal agreement.
11:16:22 That's the only thing they have to say in how you spend your
11:16:25 They don't have a say in Channelside.
11:16:29 None of that.
11:16:30 And this is only coming about now where the county has a
11:16:35 role in this, because you are trying to extend the duration.
11:16:38 That's the only instance where they have a say.
11:16:40 >>YVONNE CAPIN: And they have a say in determining to extend
11:16:50 it according to the former chairman, whether we lake your
11:16:58 projects or not, or agree with your projects or not.
11:17:01 So it is already being decided before it comes to us.
11:17:06 When it comes to us, can we say, okay, I know that you
11:17:09 agreed that these projects -- but we are not going to do
11:17:13 those, we are going to do another one.
11:17:15 >>SAL TERRITO: Being negotiated, that comes here to City
11:17:22 And the City Council will make a determination whether they
11:17:24 want to agree to the scope of what the city and the county
11:17:27 are negotiating.
11:17:29 If you say no, then it's no.
11:17:31 The CRA will then take whatever the city and the council and
11:17:35 the mayor and they will take that agreement, and agree or
11:17:39 not agree.
11:17:40 The CRA will be bound by it.
11:17:43 >>YVONNE CAPIN: And the administration negotiates with the
11:17:45 county because we approve that every year.
11:17:53 Tell me.
11:17:53 Then I misunderstood, Mr. McDonaugh.
11:17:55 >>BOB McDONAUGH: The administration is negotiating with the
11:17:58 county for the simple reason that the CRA downtown is going
11:18:00 to expire in a few years, and you as a CRA get your
11:18:04 authority from the City Council, and from the statute.
11:18:08 You don't have any authority given to you.
11:18:12 That's where the negotiation takes place.
11:18:17 But you as a City Council, off role in that because you have
11:18:20 to agree with the change in the interlocal agreement.
11:18:24 If you decide you don't like it, it doesn't go anywhere.
11:18:28 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Exactly.
11:18:29 >>FRANK REDDICK: May I suggest something?
11:18:31 May I suggest -- and I hope you will agree to this -- and
11:18:34 that is instead of us making the priorities on May 8th
11:18:38 is if we can get a description of the CRA, the role of the
11:18:43 CRA board, and also the correlation between interlocal
11:18:51 agreement between county and city, so all of us have a clear
11:18:55 understanding on where we are going, and our duties and
11:19:00 Is it possible we can get all of this and then do it on May
11:19:03 8th so that everything will be clear, what our role is?
11:19:11 >> If that's a motion I will hand that over to you.
11:19:15 [ Laughter ]
11:19:18 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I had made the original motion, and that
11:19:21 was to be prepared for the budget cycle, just as City
11:19:27 Council is preparing for the city budget, that we look at
11:19:33 the priorities within the CRA district in preparation for
11:19:36 the CRA budget.
11:19:37 Now, what our responsibilities are, what our duties are,
11:19:41 what the interlocal -- I like to say tri-party interlocal
11:19:45 agreement says, is another issue.
11:19:48 So if you want to have that conversation first, and then
11:19:53 look at, you know, the budget priorities that I'm speaking
11:19:56 of after that discussion, then that may be the order in
11:20:00 which --
11:20:02 >> And that's my point, and this we do this first so we can
11:20:05 all have a clear understanding what we want to do.
11:20:08 I mean, we can come back in June and go through the
11:20:12 >>HARRY COHEN: We can also do yours in April.
11:20:14 We have April 10th.
11:20:16 >>FRANK REDDICK: Oh, I didn't know that.
11:20:17 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Excuse me, let's make sure we get this.
11:20:24 Chair, if you still want to piggyback on a particular
11:20:27 motion, I will entertain that.
11:20:28 But let's clear up your motion so that Mr. Cruz can get it
11:20:35 Let's do that.
11:20:36 And I think that your friendly amendment is going to be a
11:20:38 separate motion, Mr. Chair?
11:20:40 >>FRANK REDDICK: That was a separate -- I can tie that in.
11:20:45 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Either way.
11:20:46 I'll accept it if you want to make it as a friendly
11:20:49 >>FRANK REDDICK: I make at friendly amendment.
11:20:53 >> We didn't have a second yet.
11:20:56 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Mrs. Capin made that motion.
11:21:00 >> Jim Cruz, there has been a lot of discussion today.
11:21:06 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So I move that we come to discuss on
11:21:12 April 10th the role, responsibility of the CRA under the
11:21:23 tri-party interlocal agreement and the management agreement
11:21:25 we have with staff, of the administration, and then,
11:21:29 secondly, on May -- what day is it? -- may 8th we
11:21:36 discuss our priorities in preparation for the budget with
11:21:42 staff and the chairs of the citizens advisory committees
11:21:48 for --
11:21:52 >>FRANK REDDICK: The only thing you left out is the
11:21:54 interlocal agreement between the --
11:21:56 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That's the trey party interlocal
11:21:59 Because it's the city, the county and the CRA.
11:22:01 >>FRANK REDDICK: All right D.we get a second?
11:22:06 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Second.
11:22:07 >>FRANK REDDICK: Further discussion on the motion?
11:22:08 All those in favor of the motion say aye.
11:22:10 Opposed? Okay.
11:22:12 Staff, did you get it?
11:22:16 All right.
11:22:21 All right.
11:22:21 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Very complicated stuff.
11:22:25 >>FRANK REDDICK: At this time information reports and any
11:22:30 new business.
11:22:30 Mrs. Montelione?
11:22:31 >>LISA MONTELIONE: No, sir.
11:22:33 >>HARRY COHEN: No, sir.
11:22:35 >>YVONNE CAPIN: No, sir.
11:22:36 >>MIKE SUAREZ: No, sir.
11:22:38 >>FRANK REDDICK: Need a motion to receive and file all
11:22:41 >> So moved.
11:22:41 >> Second.
11:22:42 >>FRANK REDDICK: Moved by Mr. Cohen, seconded by Mr. Suarez
11:22:45 to receive all the document.
11:22:46 All in favor of the motion say yay.
11:22:53 Good day.
11:22:53 >> What time tonight?
11:22:57 >>HARRY COHEN: 6:00.
11:23:02 (The CRA meeting concluded at 11:23 a.m.)
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