...route to the City of Tampa home page
Parks and Recreation

Quick Links


Tampa Trails & Greenways Project Minutes of Advisory Committee Meeting


Call to Order

Date: March 11, 2003

  • Ms. Sally Thompson called the meeting to order at 6:10 pm.
Attendees:
  • Jill Buford, Frank Burns, Alan Draffin (TPD), Melanie Higgins, Jim Hartnett, Edith Hooten, Ken Kramer, Guy LeBalme, Nina Mabilleau (Transportation), Doug Pasley (TPD), Lee Royal (FDOT), Randy Stribling, Sally Thompson, Dan Thornbrugh, Larry Weatherby, Alan Wright, Karen Cashon, Karla Price
  • Mr. Randy Stibling moved to accept the December 2002 meeting minutes with Ms. Melanie Higgins seconding the motion. It passed unanimously.
Old Business:
  • Parks Update: The City of Tampa website has been updated with the most current information.

    The Blake Trail project bids were received two weeks ago. Construction should start late spring/early summer. The FDOT easement under I-275 and the Presbyterian Village easement are still being negotiated. The artist is at work on the artistic elements.

    On the South Tampa Greenway, 60% plans are completed and under review by the City. 100% plans are expected by April 30, 2003. The finalization of the trail alignment and base agreement are under consideration.

    Transportation: Ms. Nina Mabilleau updated the various Transportation Division projects. Bayshore Boulevard bike lanes (south bound) have received MPO funding pending right of way certification. The city surveyor is at work on that, and $1 million is expected for 2007-2008, with a total of $5.7 million over 5 years. The road is expected to lose a traffic lane and have a narrower median.

    Bruce B. Downs from Hunter's Green to the county line is in FDOT's PD&E under redesign as an urban section, and the trail continuation is expected to be built as part of that construction in 2007-2008. Ms. Lee Royal of the FDOT mentioned that the multiple pedestrian amenities are being considered and public hearings will be scheduled.

New Business:
  • Paddle Manatee: Ms. Price introduced Mr. John Osborne of Manatee County.Mr. Osbourne spoke on the Development of Blueways in Manatee County. The program in Manatee is called "Paddle Manatee" and consists of 75 miles of blueways in publicly owned waterways with 100 markers, 8-10 kiosks, 14 public launch sites. They printed an original run of 10,000 waterproof guides.

    Paddle Manatee started in 1990, with a Greenways Action Plan. In 1998, the Florida Greenways Coordination Council created the Connecting Florida Commission with Greenways and Trails. Manatee started with one designated 3 mile trail with no markers. In January 2000, Manatee received a National Park Service RTCA Technical Assistance Grant to develop a greenways master plan. The Citizen Trail Commission (CTC) was then created to develop a mission statement, project timelines, a citizen participation process and included a blueways subcommittee. In June 2000, Manatee County received a $25,000 FRDP Coastal Management Program Grant to develop 23 miles of blueways, markers and exotic vegetation removal. A CTC meeting in November 2000 has 100 attendees.

    The Blueways Subcommittee relied on volunteer research paddling the waterways and taking copious photographs. Additional assistance came from kayaking clubs, scouting organizations (including Eagle Scout projects), the local Sierra chapter, the NPS, and local ecotourism businesses. Manatee County also received a second $25,000 grant from West Coast Inland Navigational District, allowing the placement of additional markers and an expansion to 75 miles of blueways overall.

    Mr. Osbourne and his team paddled each and every proposed blueway. GPS was used to determine marker locations for navigational purposes. The markers should be visible from each other, and in mangrove island areas, the markers are more frequently placed due to ease of confusion. They decided to go with a guide book instead of a folding map due to the large amount of information that it ended up containing, and made it waterproof for longevity. The CTC reviewed the draft guide prior to printing (a planned second edition will remove the few mistakes that ended up within it).

    The Blueways Kickoff happened September 2001. There were no markers in place and the guides were not ready at that time.

    The markers are standardized in Florida. Some are 16x16 and some are 18x18. Sign material is similar to stop signs, set on PVC poles with striping and placed at a slight forward angle to minimize bird deposits. Permitting for markers is required through the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission (FFWCC), as well as the US Coast Guard and the US Army Corps of Engineers (ACOE). It was decided to go with contractor installation instead of volunteer placement.

    The Manatee County government offices that oversee Paddle Manatee include the Ecosystems Management Division (overall project leadership) who maintain launch sites on conservation lands, the Environmental Management Division who install and maintain the markers, the Parks and Recreation Department who maintain launch sites on county lands, and the Planning Division who undertook the planning, the growth, the promotion and the coordination with developers. Safety issues are handled by the Manatee County Rescue Division. The County Attorney reviewed liability issues. A US Coast Guard review was made where the blueways cross the Intercoastal Waterways (ICW) and markers adjacent to the ICW.

    For 2003, additional markers are slated as well as kiosks and a second edition to the guide. Creating a "Friends of the Trail" is also expected and going for state/national recreational trail designations. Interest in the project must be maintained.

    Do's and Don'ts: Mr. Osborne stressed needing to paddle the proposed blueways in all season and all tidal conditions. Blueways can gain additional points in many grant applications. Several items to get early on include a copy of the permitting, working with the permitting agencies and working with developers and maintainers. A dry run of marker installation was made to determine the conditions that bidders would need to understand. Other funding sources would include water management districts, the National Estuary Program, parks and recreation grants such as FRDP, private grants/donations, and Friends of the Trail. Taking time to map more routes than is currently planned to mark allows a quick response if additional monies suddenly become available.

    The overall cost of Paddle Manatee was the $50,000 (from the two grants) and staff time. Coordinates of the markers will soon be available on the website. Ms. Price asked what the public response has been, and Mr. Osbourne proclaimed Paddle Manatee to be a golden boy for the county. The cost to install the 100 markers was $15,000. Paddlers can re-trace the trail by following the backs of the markers, and in the future, it is hoped to possible have two-way signage. NPS has reported minimizing damage to signage by applying an American flag to their signs (90% drop in vandalism) and Manatee is considering this application. Some markers may also be lost to storms. Other adjacent blueway systems include Sarasota's and state blueways in Big Cypress and the Everglades.

    2 Speed Zones of the Hillsborough River: Sgt. Alan Draffin spoke on planned changes to the boat speed zones on the river and the channels adjacent to the islands. Despite past resolutions by City Council on boat speeds, no permits were ever applied for to the FFWCC, so enforcement by the Marine Patrol is impossible. Additionally, FFWCC has guidelines on boat speeds and perceived danger and erosion damage is considered insufficient grounds to authorize an idle or slow speed zone. Despite public debate and city resolutions, the state will only accept what it deems reasonable. Sgt. Draffin's staff has prepared a map that ideally will nullify the previous resolutions and place all violations under one ordinance, one permit number. Idle speeds are allowed within 500' either direction of fueling facilities, and within 300' either direction of public boat ramps/docks (no private). There is no state recognize manatee areas on the Hillsborough River. Money for signs would need to be acquired from Public Works.

    Ms. Thompson wondered if the CAC should send a letter to the City Council supporting this new ordinance and plan for the river. Ms. Jill Buford moved that the CAC sent a letter to the City Council supporting the new ordinance with signage. Ms. Melanie Higgins seconded the motion. It was unanimous.


Copyright © 1996-2009 City of Tampa.  All rights reserved. - Last Updated: 6/1/2009